Eugene, Loper as starters?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 8th, 2011 at 4:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Contract figures made available to Bay Area News Group indicate the Raiders may be looking at free safety Hiram Eugene and guard Daniel Loper as potential starters.
Eugene, signed before last Thursday’s deadline, signed a four-year contract which pays him $2 million this year, $2.25 million in 2012, $2.75 million in 2013 and $3.25 million in 2014.
It’s enough money to believe the Raiders have him in mind to start if they don’t want to compete with another team to sign incumbent free safety Michael Huff, scheduled for unrestricted free agency upon completion of a CBA. The Dallas Cowboys, with Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator, are rumored to be interested in Huff whenever free agency begins.
Loper’s deal was even more eye-opening.
Paid $630,000 in last season, Loper’s two-year contract pays him $1.9 million in 2011 and $2 million in 2012. He started four games at left guard for an injured Robert Gallery, during which time the Raiders were 2-2. Loper was inactive for six games.
The Raiders have also re-signed quarterback Kyle Boller to a one-year, $1.25 million contract, a $250,000 raise over last season. Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski said he hasn’t heard from the Raiders and Charlie Frye is scheduled for unrestricted free agency.
Running back Michael Bennett’s one-year deal will pay him $865,000.
NOTE: Mac’s Football Blog, a solid resource for salary information, reports the Raiders also paid a tidy sum to bring back defensive tackle John Henderson.
Henderson’s deal included a $1.5 million signing bonus and $1.5 million guaranteed for skill and injury. Henderson showed he still could be a force in the middle of the defense, but missed seven games due to a stress fracture in his foot after missing four games in his previous eight years.
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March 8th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I like the resigning of Mr. Loper, gives the Raiders options at the draft, makes them less predictable for their 2nd & 3rd round selections.
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I have a few prospects i liked us to take a look at.. if we purely focused on O-line..
Round 2: C Rodney Hudson, C Stefen Wisniewski
Round 3: OG Clint Boling, OT Jason Pinkston
Round 7: OT Jah Reid
March 8th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Who is the o-line Coach?
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Bob Wylie, one of the O-line coach with most losses..
March 8th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
If Eugene is our staring Safety then we are screwed!
March 8th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Eugene? Bring back Stu Schwigert!
March 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Eugene is a surer tackler than Huff but can’t cover nearly as good and Huff makes plays. I could see Eugene being the starter while Brown develops, don’t like this idea much unless the money is spent on a bigtime vet receiver
March 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
—”The Dallas Cowboys, with Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator, are rumored to be interested in Huff whenever free agency begins”—
Why would Huff re-join Rob Ryan?? he singlehanded ruined Huffs career, yeah smart move to have him coach Huff again…
March 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
If Eugene is back might as well sign other scrubs like Bruise Gradkowski …
March 8th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
I have no trouble with Loper the Roller playing LG, though.
March 8th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Shaughnessey Kelly/Henderson Seymour Houston= solid
Wimbley Mcclain Goethel= solid
Branch/Mitchell =solid
Routt CJ/Mcfadden/Ware=not good
Eugene/Brown =not good
I’m excited about Woodson as DB coach but Al hasn’t given him much to work with so far although I beleive Mcfadden can be a player
March 8th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Al’s still throwing money around like a sailor on shore leave..
Thats one hell of a raise for Loper, the Coaches must see something in him, that we haven’t..
Eugene? If you thought Patterson was toast, ain’t seen nothing yet. Will be a smell akin to burnt salmon..
March 8th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Every time I think of Eugene, I think of the McGahee stiff arm…
March 8th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
If Eugene is the starter I’m going to be pissed off.
March 8th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
@YoungAmerican Says:
What do you think of Colin Kaepernick?
Sounds like a Davis QB?
March 8th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
With the personnel decisions that have to be made this offseason, it really makes you think about what a waste of a god season last year was because we didn’t make the playoffs. We could go into next year without Aso, Huff, and Gallery which will leave us a little bit weaker. Sorry, but Cable blew it by not getting it done out of the division.
March 8th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Just when Huff was starting to come around too….I know it took forever but he was starting to become that guy they culd depend on back there….Hiram is no where neat Huff’s level!
March 8th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
That single high FS the raiders depend on is sooo important, I hope they know what they’re doing…
March 8th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
The Raiders have also re-signed quarterback Kyle Boller to a one-year, $1.25 million contract
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Guess this blows up the myth that Bruise was ever a Hue Jackson guy. I always thought Boller was better than Bruise anyway. And as a bonus, the guy seems to know his role.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Kaepernick and Mallett both sound like prototypical Al Davis QBs.
Honestly, if this team is planning on starting Loper, Satele, Campbell and Henderson on the line, and having Hiram Eugene and Chris Johnson in the secondary, it might not be a bad idea to try to find a QB who can run like hell and put up a lot of points… because the Raiders will need both of those things to overcome sub-par personnel.
As I’ve said before, the draft will determine how this season turns out.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I really don’t like Mallett. Not because he’s slow or anything, but because he’s a Bobby Petrino QB with a JaMarcus-esque inability to grasp what it takes to be an NFL QB. Too many red flags to ignore.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I like Mallett a lot. Love the production. Didn’t realize he led Arkansas to its first BCS game. I also love the way he doesn’t take any schitt from the media. He’s ultra talented with a chip on his shoulder. My kind of player.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
WTF? Eugene is now paid over $2M? He can’t even tackle. Who could forget him missing a tackle on Kitna to lose first game of 2007 season.
This proves Al Davis has lost it. He can’t evaluate, period.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Is it to early to call the secondary the weakest unit on the team?
March 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
This all makes sense. Eugene beat out Huff for FS most of 2009 & and some of 2008. Loper was solid when he came in for Gallery. With huff and Gallery it is one of those wins over replacement type of situations… how much do they actually help you win compared to their back ups… I know all the nay sayers are going to see this as a bad thing, but I don’t think either one were worth bringing back.
Loper and Eugene will be both hard pressed to even keep their jobs, but at the salary they are mking you can keep them on the roster and have a young draft pick fight it out for a spot with them.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Run defense is 27th…pass defense 10th….
So let’s get a new Free Safety and replace the All World Cornerback?
Offense better put up some points.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
dickv Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
This all makes sense. Eugene beat out Huff for FS most of 2009 & and some of 2008
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the way Rob Ryan used Huff, its not a fair comparing..
Eugene sux, but he is a great ST player..
March 8th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Loper and Eugene are great signings as key backups. Eugene is a very solid special teams player.
But if either of these guys crack the starting lineup, it won’t be a good sign.
Loper might not be bad with other upgrades along the offensive line, but if the Raiders stand pat everywhere else, with the exception of Campbell playing RG? I have serious doubts…
March 8th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Wow! Hiram “I should be serving coffee” Eugene?!?!?!
I was OK, with Routt getting a huge payday, the man showed he can be a starting CB, Seymour Is a leader and stud D-lineman, Bresnahan as D-coordinator, sure I don’t mind, he’s a company man that has gotten results in the past, but Eugene? Eugene the non-tackling machine?!
If he’s starting next year I’m gonna fuggin puke!!!
March 8th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Eugene was very forgettable in his time.
Not saying that Huff is all-world…because he’s not…but it took the Raiders damn near a decade to get competent Safety play….
Eugene & McFadden for Huff and Asomugha?
March 8th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Kyle Boller? $1,250,000?
What the flagnog???
March 8th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Poor Rod Woodson….losses his all world corner and his starting FS in his 1st month on the job….
March 8th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Losing Huff and Nnamdi and replacing them with Eugene??
Are you freakin serious??
And overpaying for Routt?
Unreal….jeeeeeezzz…
Oy vey!
March 8th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Loper and Eugene are great signings as key backups. Eugene is a very solid special teams player.
But if either of these guys crack the starting lineup, it won’t be a good sign.
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Paying a backup and special teamer that kind of money??
Yeah, lets hope Eugene is handed the starting position. I would much rather see Stevie Brown crack the starting lineup.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Getting rid of a player like Huff, who is finally coming into his own is STUPID!
It would be about as stupid as losing Satele.
March 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Don’t know how Eugene is a better tackler than Huff, remember the last Ravens game?
March 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
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# DKnight007 Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Getting rid of a player like Huff, who is finally coming into his own is STUPID!
It would be about as stupid as losing Satele.
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it would be like getting rid of Nnamdi a few years back when he finally started to produce… not wise, but raideresque
March 8th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Increasingly, the Raiders have NOTHING to show for the draft prior to 2007…and the top pick in 2007 BUSTED out in fantastic fashion
March 8th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
So Eugene “possibly” for Huff ..really not too big of a deal. Maybe a slight downgrade but players change they get better. Maybe its Eugene’s ‘time’ who knows except the Raiders?
Loper for Gallery? Really not a major deal. Gallery was good, but we didn’t fall off when Loper came in either.
Why waste big money when you can get the same quality for less?
Sometimes we let the name dictate our thoughts without really looking at the product on the field. Huff – 1st rounder. Gallery – 1st rounder. Both big names in our book vs the potential replacements.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
36.SnB Production Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Increasingly, the Raiders have NOTHING to show for the draft prior to 2007…and the top pick in 2007 BUSTED out in fantastic fashion
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Yes, with a Coogi sweater for good measure …..LOL
(imo that has to be the worst sweater in the history of fashion)
March 8th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Terrapin,
I think all these moves just shows that the last decade was a “lost” decade.
The entire team, if Huff and Aso are sent on the road, will be made up of either free agents or players drafted after 2007.
With the exception of Stanford Routt, the kickers Sam Williams….Thomas Howard is also a non-contributor on the way out.
I hope Al Davis and the front office reevaluate their draft picks the last 10 years.
To only have 1 contributor (non-kickers) to show for all your draft picks prior to 2007 is a tough deal.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
There’s no debating that really. (Well you can possibly debate anything …that is to say we didn’t have the coaches or stability necessary to bring out the talent we had)
But really, its been a lost decade for the team of the decades
March 8th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
I suspect that this non-guaranteed deal for Eugene is more an insurance policy in case Stevie Brown isn’t ready to start. If Brown IS ready, they can cut Eugene and bring him back for less money.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
On Kim Newton ..while I’m at it …I’m not sure the context of his comments but at face value they were certainly a red flag. Similar to my thoughts after listening/watching JR before we drafted him (thats when I just jumped on the wagon ..before then I was like hell to the NO).
Dude must first become a great QB before he can be an “icon” in anything. His focus/priorities may be all screwed up. Plus he’s not a throwing QB …just not what you want to see.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Raiders try to force Mitchell into a FS spot where he doesn’t belong. Al doesn’t like when his project picks don’t see the field.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
And he’s not even that fast …lol
I just dont get the hype …must be a poor QB class
Now Bradford …THAT GUY ..when I saw him in college I was like he is going to be damn good. Smart as all hell and accurate. That guy will be good imho …but that story will be written. (Still on a poor team though).
March 8th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Here’s what Father Pride & Poise says about these latest moves:’
“Sometimes I think they do that because they know someone wants the player and sometimes so no one will want to pay the price.”
All of a sudden, Al becomes “they,” and thus ensues this patently weak rationale for this sudden lavish spending. Hey Priesttj, c’mon, you know the real reason: Fkin Al has finally gone off the deep end! He thinks he already has a playoff quality roster! Gonna set up the coaching staff to take the fall once more if they don’t get there. You know the routine, right brother?
Seriously, Davis is completely off his rocker.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
you guys can kiss Huff GOOD BYE
HUFF——— ” being from Texas its been a life dream to play for the dallas cowboys and being able to reunite with rob ryan was just the icing on the cake.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
No way in hell MM34 is going to play FS.
I’ve said this time and time again, if anyone, it would be Branch because of his speed, range and tackling ability.
MM34 is born for the SS spot.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I hope we take Kapaernick at some point in the draft. He has great size, can get out of the pocket, has a rocket arm, has tons of experience, is a leader, and a hard worker
March 8th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Whether it’s Mitchell or Branch, both tend to be liabilities in coverage, and shouldn’t be the last line of defense.
I would like to see an open competition between them for the SS spot, though.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
errapinRaider Says: March 8th, 2011 at 6:39 pm No way in hell MM34 is going to play FS. I’ve said this time and time again, if anyone, it would be Branch because of his speed, range and tackling ability. MM34 is born for the SS spot
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Branch at FS is a dangerous proposition, he couldn’t cover a bed with a blanket
March 8th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
MM34 should start at SS. Thats as open as it gets for me : ).
Branch should, again SHOULD, be better in coverage given his time as a CB in college. He’s not that bad of a tackler. He had an awful year that made him probably look worse than he actually is. I say work him in at FS or have him backup SS.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
If you put RoMac and MM34 on that field snap after sanp …I’m sure you would see even more energy out of that defense ..because those boys will HIT!
March 8th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
I think Branch can definitely improve his coverage skills and just had a down year, but I’m not sure a position change will do him any favors.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
i thought huff would be leaving the team but my grandmother says no.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Seroiusly, unless Rod Woodson is as good a coach as he was a player…that secondary is going to struggle mightily.
The only solutions to this is:
1. Change the scheme up…more zones….
2. Stop the run and force favorable down and distance
3. Get after the QB on obvious passing downs
4. Offense score A LOT MORE POINTS!
March 8th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
I’d like to see Mitchell on the field more, but he’s not a fit at FS. So either more “big nickel” packages or he needs to take over for Branch.
Mitchell seemed to be the Raiders’ answer to Antonio Gates, and that’s good enough for me. I want to see more.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
42.TerrapinRaider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
On Kim Newton ..while I’m at it …I’m not sure the context of his comments but at face value they were certainly a red flag. Similar to my thoughts after listening/watching JR before we drafted him (thats when I just jumped on the wagon ..before then I was like hell to the NO).
Dude must first become a great QB before he can be an “icon” in anything. His focus/priorities may be all screwed up. Plus he’s not a throwing QB …just not what you want to see.
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Rich Gannon got called out by this dude in Texas today on Sirius radio. A previous caller criticized Blaine Gabbert for not throwing at the combine and Gannon spent two minutes defending him, saying that Tom Condon (Gabbert and Gannon’s agent) is the best in the business and that Gabbert was just listening to his advice. Then the Texas caller got on and said Gannon had no business defending Gabberts’ ACTIONS (choosing not to compete at the combine with questionable production in college) while spending three days criticizing Newton for using the WORDS “icon” and “entertainer”. Gannon started backpedaling his ass off. He had to give credit to Newton for his ACTIONS; his otherwordly production in college and his willingness to showcase his wares and compete every chance he gets. I agree. Who gives a damn about what he said about being an icon. Hell, with what that guy did in college, you could argue that he is one. Bottom line is as a competitor, he’s blowing Gabbert out of the water right now.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Rod Woodson is the next head coach!
March 8th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
You heard it here first …MM34 is your next Bob Sanders (hopefully without the health issues) … The Terrapin sees it.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
good night fella’s… take care…
March 8th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
plus huff likes caspers hotdogs in northern oakland.so i dont see him leaving.
March 8th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Like I said ..its a serious red flag. You guys can look at the athleticism all you want and the wow factors and the what could be’s …but I’m telling you its a serious deal. This is no different from me listening to JRs interview before we drafted him. He too was outter-worldly with his talents …but his head just wasn’t right.
I wouldn’t draft him. Thats all I have to say about it. But the Raiders won’t even be in that position …nor will the draft him if they were imho.
March 8th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
62.TerrapinRaider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Like I said ..its a serious red flag. You guys can look at the athleticism all you want and the wow factors and the what could be’s …but I’m telling you its a serious deal. This is no different from me listening to JRs interview before we drafted him. He too was outter-worldly with his talents …but his head just wasn’t right.
I wouldn’t draft him. Thats all I have to say about it. But the Raiders won’t even be in that position …nor will the draft him if they were imho.
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We probably won’t draft a QB anyway. But if we do, it won’t matter who it is if there’s no stability in the coaching staff and he’s surrounded with a piss poor supporting cast. He’ll be doomed to failure here, just like JR.
March 8th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
there is a better chance of me being drafted by the raiders than cam newton.
March 8th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
If its hard to determine where a team will go with their 1st pick then you probably had a pretty damn good team. The Raiders had a pretty damn good team last year but f’ked it up under Cable.
If they are cool with Loper and Campbell they may not even go OL in the 2nd. Maybe CB; but who knows ..maybe Nnam resigns. DE, but Shonasty is pretty decent and Houston is not coming off the starting blocks ….we have to true glaring needs outside WR that I can think of (and they prob wont look to the draft to sure that up).
March 8th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Drafting guys like Cam Newton and Ryan Mallett are risks. You have to have a strong coach and strong and positive team culture.
The Raiders just don’t offer that. They need the self-motivated.
If any team should be focused on the interview…its the Raiders.
March 8th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
“no” true glaring needs…
March 8th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
outtro
March 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Count former Ravens head coach Brian Billick as one who has concerns about Cam Newton’s diva-like attitude and even referred to him as “LeBron James-ish.”The guy has mental problems and needs to go see Sigmund Fruit.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Mr. Stevie Brown will beat out Mr. Eugene for the starting free safety position,thereby Hiram will be cut; so I’m not concerned about this news anyway.
My thinking is and I think it is Hue’s as well is it would have been difficult for Brown to beat out Mr. Huff, even if he earned it.
This way the the promotion/benching/cut goes smoother.
also should Huff be signed as a safety, Raiders could move him to start in Nnamdi’s spot, should the Raiders not resign him.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Is this some kind of JOKE or what Jerry? You are losing it buddy if you think this is starter money then I got news for all of you. This backup money if I’ve ever seen it. Eugene is a great ST’s player and he’s being compensated for it, also he is a good fill in, in a pinch. Loper played well as a backup and I like him as I said earlier he is a keeper and to keep him you have to pay him……………period
To suppose this as starter money you have to be brain dead.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with T’pin at the FS position being Branch he is a natural FS his cover skills tell you that Mitchell is much better cover guy thus he should be the starter at SS and give Branch the chance to run and hit and make plays the wya Huff was allowed to do. Huff excels when put where he belonged and I think Branch will as well.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
125,000,000 split up by 55 players
that is a little over 2 million a player, so Priest is correct that is just back up FS, solid special teams palyer money.
I still think Stevie beats him out though for the starting fs position as the coaches are really high on him.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I’ve got my doubts about Branch, not a great tackler either.
I’d rather see Stevie Brown at FS, he’s shown a nose for the ball and the play.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I’ve gotta say the moves we’ve been making have me worried. With the money thrown to Routt, Eugene and Wimbley we probably could’ve had a shot to sign Nnamdi, Huff and Wimbley (to a lesser deal).
I actually like Eugene as a special teamer and a backup safety. I think he’s a decent player, but the kind of guy you’d like to keep around on the cheap, not pay starter money. Paying Routt $10 million per still blows my mind. No way he comes close to that on the open market. Isn’t that pretty much what Revis is making? And we’re going to let Nnamdi go when he could probably be signed for around $12 per? I don’t get it.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I’ve got my doubts about Branch, not a great tackler either.
I’d rather see Stevie Brown at FS, he’s shown a nose for the ball and the play.
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Don’t like Branch at all. Hope Huff comes back to start with Mitchell.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Oh, and Boller is terrible. What are we doing bringing him back? And we’re going to let Grads walk?
Unbelievable. I was really excited about the Hue hiring, and I’ve pretty much always been an Al Davis guy, but I’m really starting to fear we’re going to take a HUGE step back in 2011 with the moves we’ve been making.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
# inonewordraider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Eugene is a surer tackler than Huff but can’t cover nearly as good and Huff makes plays. I could see Eugene being the starter while Brown develops, don’t like this idea much unless the money is spent on a bigtime vet receiver
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Yeah, he was a sure tackler when Willis Maghee shoved him out of the way en route to a TD.
start Stevie Brown. Michigan players ARE FOOTBALL, period. Eugene shouldnt be on the field, period. get your Rahim Moore scouting report ready…
March 8th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Roughly, these guys are going to make:
- Routt $10 mil
- Wimbley $9 mil
- Eugene $2 mil
but wouldn’t this make more sense:
- Nnamdi $12 mil
- Huff $5 mil
- Wimbley $4 mil
Those guys were, along with Seymour and Kelly, our best defensive players this year. And we’re probably only keeping one of them while throwing silly money at some other guys? Nope. Don’t get it.
And don’t get on me for “what do you care? It’s not your money.” I know, I don’t care what they’re getting paid, I care that the team has finite financial resources and I fear that, salary cap or not, we’re going to let key players go while paying way over market value for others.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Hello?????
March 8th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
If Bresnahan starts calling prevent defense’s, I think he’ll have a problem with Seymour.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Good eve KK, nation!
March 8th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Huff has made it clear he loves all things Texas. If you think he would have signed in Oakland for anything less than Otagwe just got from Washington, then you’re not being realistic. Huff will be starting for the Cowboys next year.
Wimbley was a FA coming off year where his numbers rivaled the top DEs in the league. We got F’d over with the buy back clause being nulified. We couldn’t lose Wimbley at all. I can KINDA understand the franchise tag on him. Doubt it was expected to go down like that.
If Nnamdi would have taken 12 million a year, he’d still be here. Davis paid him more than that last year, so why would you think he wouldn’t have paid him 12?
March 8th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
As petty as Al Davis is, he may be holding something personal against Nnamdi.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
How do any of you know what the market is? YOU DON’T stop acting like you’re capologist the money we’ve paid out so far is minimal. The ONLY player that’s gotten real m oney are Seymour and Routt the rest are getting average or lower salaries and the majority of these contracts aren’t gauranteed which mean most wont see 40% of that contract.
So shut the hell up and stop whinning about salaries and contracts when you don’t know the langage in them. I doubt Routt sees more than 70% of that contract. They know WHO they want to keep and they know WHO they don’t and the players that are walking are apparently asking for more money than they are worth based on discussions with other GM’s. How do you know who they have had talks with about trades and the like.
To come in here and act as if you know better than the people who do this for a living is ludicrous.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
As petty as Al Davis is, he may be holding something personal against Nnamdi.
………….i dont agree al is not pretty.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
New head coach Hue Jackson has said that Jason Campbell will be the starter, and it looks like Gradkowski will be shopping for a new team with Boller as the backup.But Boller a backup could easily be a starter.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
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March 8th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
A new era is on the verge of dawning at linebacker for the San Diego Chargers.
Stephen Cooper appears ready to move on for the first time in his eight-year NFL career, leaving an opening for last season’s third-round draft pick Donald Butler to move into the starting lineup.
“I think I’m going to have an opportunity to test the market,” Cooper told the San Diego Union-Tribune, seemingly confident that his time with Bolts has drawn to an end.
Butler, meanwhile, is coming off a torn Achilles tendon that sidelined him for his entire rookie season.
Still, the Chargers are “excited” to give the first-year player the opportunity to start in 2011.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Jhill I hate to lose Huff and I mean hate to lose him, I think he was really becoming one of the very best FS in the game. He was making plays all over the field.
However I think it is time for Branch to take the baton and run with it I think he’s seen enough to hit the ground running and would make a top notch FS in a year or two.
This kid W McFadden entrigues me more than anyone else we have at corner I just think he has what it takes to be very good if allowed to play there game in game out I think his instincts for the game are outstanding he just got torched once and that happens to everyone. But the kid has something IMO.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Fat kid I think peopel in here are very hard on Boller I think he makes a lot of sense at backup he is very familiar with Hue’s system and can be a big help in the case that Campbell goes down.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Sign Tikki Barber, and lose Bennett
March 8th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Bresnahan spent last season as defensive coordinator for Florida in the UFL. He replaces John Marshall, who was let go after a uneven season that saw Oakland give up more than 30 points six times.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Marcel Reece, Michael Huff, Mario Henderson and Jarvis Moss
All of these guy got tenders.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Priest,
I like walt Mcfadden alot. Saw him play in a bowl game last January and he was dominant. He knows how to play football, and he knows how to make plays.
I also really like stevie brown. The little I saw of Brown last year along with Nnamdi saying the kid just makes plays… I have been ready for Huff to walk and let this kid and Eugene battle for the job. huff is a good player, but I don’t think he is worth big money because he is not an elite safety. He is in the same mold of a Madeu Williams, Deon Grant, Micheal Hamlin…etc.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Campbell,boller,mallett
March 8th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Fat kid I think peopel in here are very hard on Boller I think he makes a lot of sense at backup he is very familiar with Hue’s system and can be a big help in the case that Campbell goes down.
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Just became a big Boller fan. His signing means all the trash has been taken out. Clowns like Cable, Hackett, Tollner and Bruise are poison to a team trying to get somewhere. Good riddance!
March 8th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Campbell,boller,mallett
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in a perfect world.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Debo I think Bruce’s comments after he was hurt and Campbell was reinserted sealed his doom here. When they put him on IR that said to me they were tired of his shananigans and wanted to silence him. It’s OK to compete but do it on the practice field and not through the media. They knew he wouldn’t accept his role as backup and they didn’t need the rambling mouth of his stirring up contentions through the media. As well as on game day. This team needs an established starter I think Campbell has done enough to be recognized as that starter. And lets roll from there.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
USC running back D.J. Morgan has drawn quite a bit of praise from head coach Lane Kiffin. Kiffin had this to say about the Trojan tailback: “Been very encouraged by him, in the pass game and the run game. He looks very explosive, even though he’s not 100 percent yet. Very natural and smooth… And I hope it’s a great message to Dillon Baxter. Here’s somebody who didn’t get quite the (same) praise because of his injury, but he (Baxter) is going to have to work his tail off to start with that kid here.”
Morgan tore his ACL in high school and has done nothing but impress coaches while operating with the scout team. He may not see the field this year but he is certainly one to keep an eye on.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Debo I think Bruce’s comments after he was hurt and Campbell was reinserted sealed his doom here. When they put him on IR that said to me they were tired of his shananigans and wanted to silence him. It’s OK to compete but do it on the practice field and not through the media. They knew he wouldn’t accept his role as backup and they didn’t need the rambling mouth of his stirring up contentions through the media. As well as on game day. This team needs an established starter I think Campbell has done enough to be recognized as that starter. And lets roll from there.
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Well said.
March 8th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Seymour’s deal is a pair of one-year $15 million deals
Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2011, 5:00 PM EST
The Raiders last month gave defensive lineman Richard Seymour a two-year, $30 million contract. That part is accurate.
The deal widely was reported as having $22.5 million guaranteed. That part was less accurate.
Per a league source, only $15 million was fully guaranteed upon signing. That guarantee comes in the form of a guaranteed base salary of $15 million.
The other $7.5 million in guaranteed money is guaranteed for injury only. On the fifth day of the 2012 league year, the amount becomes fully guaranteed. The deal also carries a $7.5 million roster bonus that becomes guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2012 league year.
Thus, Seymour signed a one-year, $15 million deal, and he gave the Raiders an exclusive option on a second one-year, $15 million deal. He’ll get $22.5 million guaranteed only if he suffers a catastrophic injury in 2011.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
How is Boller better than Gradkowski as a backup? Al just wants Gradkowski out of there so there won’t be a viable replacement when Campbell stinks up the place, therefore the Raiders can make the argument that Campbell’s all they got. Hue era is off to a great start. The team is already getting worse. Simple math:
Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller is better than Campbell/Boller/?? ??
March 8th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
R8eray this is precisely what I meant with my earlier post these fans see the face value of these contracts and overreact when they don’t know the details within. Very few contracts are paid in full and i can gaurantee you that Routts is of a similar nature. Because Nnamdi himslef only recieved 70% of that huge contract he signed. But fans listen to the media and get overly excited about something they know very little about. These guys can be cut for a variety of reasons and never see half that money if they don’t perform. As we saw by the Russell contract. He missed out on roughly 7$mill due ot lack of performance.
That’s why I don’t get excited about these contracts and who got what because the langage of them can vary from player to player.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Al plans on drafting Weisnewski so you have too let gradkowski go because of nfl rules one pollock per team.!
March 8th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Good to know racism and bigotry is alive and well amongst the NFL’s most “diverse” fan base.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
I like Boller abilities more than Gradkowski personally, Grads is too short and arm too weak Boller is every bit as athletic and I think Huie knows Boller better since he coached him at Cal and at Balt.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
priest, what’s better?
Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller
or
Campbell/Boller/whoever?
I’m done arguing my point regarding Gradkowski vs. Campbell. Mob rule has decided that debate in the Raider Nation. But Gradkowski isn’t even better than Boller? Seriously, priest? Opine, please.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Never mind. Guess you answered my question.
Is Gradkowski good at anything, priest? Anything?
March 8th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
How is Boller better than Gradkowski as a backup? Al just wants Gradkowski out of there so there won’t be a viable replacement when Campbell stinks up the place, therefore the Raiders can make the argument that Campbell’s all they got. Hue era is off to a great start. The team is already getting worse. Simple math:
Campbell/Gradkowski/Boller is better than Campbell/Boller/?? ??
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Nope. Bruise isn’t a viable replacement. And he doesn’t know when to shut the hell up. A scrub player like that should know he should be seen and not heard.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Priest, does Gradkowski at least have pocket presence? Doesn’t he handle a pass rush or blitz better than Boller? Does he get that much from you? Not even that? Boller is just superior to Grad in every single category, right down the line?
March 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I like Grads, I just like Boller better from a skillset standpoint. It’s personal preference.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
103,108, mrs,resume youre NAP,please! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Because he won’t shut up? So Bruce being gone has as much to do with the Raiders having some sort of personal vendetta against him as it does his ability? If he just stayed mute, he’d still be on the team? Doesn’t sound like he’s that bad then, Debo. Why isn’t Al getting us the best players he can? Why’s he cutting guys because they merely spoke to the press? Doesn’t Al want the best players possible?
March 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Because he won’t shut up? So Bruce being gone has as much to do with the Raiders having some sort of personal vendetta against him as it does his ability? If he just stayed mute, he’d still be on the team? Doesn’t sound like he’s that bad then, Debo. Why isn’t Al getting us the best players he can? Why’s he cutting guys because they merely spoke to the press? Doesn’t Al want the best players possible?
………….you should not post before taking your medication……..
March 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Bruce is nothing special only to a bunch of fans who preferred him over Russell but Campbell clearly outplayed him………….period
March 8th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Kyle Boller has started in this league and has a lot of snaps under his belt so he’s not some fresh faced kid he’s been there. Just with moderate success which means backup but it doesn’t mean he’ll never be a viable option in case of need.
But he’s done as much in this l;eague as Bruce has done with much more tangibles to offer.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
you have three old goats at qb ,you need two old goats and one development qb.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
you must have one development qb on the roster,for the future,rmr if you have your attendant or nurse losen your binders you would see that.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
POST 115,FK,still laughing at the meds post,how you doin? Oh, wondering if Raider O has been posting,been awhile since Ive been reading the blog on a daily basis? Later,RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
To be honest Mallett concerns me a bit, I would very much prefer Kaepernick.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
no have not seen raider o posting unless he changed his posting name.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
how about campbell ,boller, tarvaris jackson
March 8th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
85.priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
How do any of you know what the market is? YOU DON’T stop acting like you’re capologist the money we’ve paid out so far is minimal. The ONLY player that’s gotten real m oney are Seymour and Routt the rest are getting average or lower salaries and the majority of these contracts aren’t gauranteed which mean most wont see 40% of that contract.
So shut the hell up and stop whinning about salaries and contracts when you don’t know the langage in them. I doubt Routt sees more than 70% of that contract. They know WHO they want to keep and they know WHO they don’t and the players that are walking are apparently asking for more money than they are worth based on discussions with other GM’s. How do you know who they have had talks with about trades and the like.
To come in here and act as if you know better than the people who do this for a living is ludicrous.
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Like the Javon Walker signing? Like the DHB pick? Like giving D-Hall $8 mil for 8 games? And just to make clear I’m not picking on the Raiders, like Holmgren giving Delhomme tens of millions last year? Like the Redskins for throwing a mountain of cash at a very talented but unmotivated Haynesworth. Or like a thousand other poor moves made by GMs.
You can judge what these guys are roughly worth when you look around the league at comparable players. Routt is now getting paid like a top 4 or 5 CB. Wimbley is making top 5 LB money, at least for 2011. And the whole reason for Revis’ holdout last year is that he wanted Nnamdi money, but Nnamdi was getting paid so far out of line with what other CBs make.
I suppose they do know who they want to keep and who they want to let walk, that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it and it definitely doesn’t mean they’re making the right moves.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
campbell, boller,Jake Locker
March 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Priest, Debo already admitted Gradkowski’s gone for personal reason. Cat’s out of the bag. Take it up with him.
Bottom line: The team is getting worse. Campbell/Gradkowski was better than Campbell/Boller.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
116.priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Bruce is nothing special only to a bunch of fans who preferred him over Russell but Campbell clearly outplayed him………….period
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And Grads was clearly better than Campbell. That’s why Campbell was benched for Grads.
Twice.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Even though I think Gradkowski is better than Campbell, I can see why the Raiders would start Campbell over him. But to outright let Gradkowski go, even as a backup, when he isn’t even expensive? Doesn’t make any sense at all. As I said, Hue’s got his hands full. Al Davis isn’t relenting one bit. And he’s not getting any more sane as he gets older.
March 8th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
125,campbell,boller,mr full out BLITZ, yup RAIDERS!!!
March 8th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
jason campbell is the starter gradkowski is a distraction that could cause a locker room rift,now does it make sense.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
I didn’t say you had to like it but you don’t know what the contract says so draw hard and fast conclusions is senseless. I dn’t agree with a lot of stuff but I don’t try to act as though I KNOW BETTER. Agree or disagree but this that signing was stupid is IMO stupid because you DON’T KNOW.
As far as the year Al Davis gave all that money to several athletes I never saw him do that before or since sure he’ll make a big slash or two but that was an aboration IMO. He was trying to make it work with that kid and saw the error in it. Fired him and got rid of the players who couldn’t play. Since then he has gone back to what he’s always doen sign the players he wants……….period
Who knows if it’s right until they play the games.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
remember a guy named randy moss had all the talent in the world but was a locker room cancer and had to go.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Since then he has gone back to what he’s always doen sign the players he wants……….period
Who knows if it’s right until they play the games.
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True. What we do know, though, is that it hasn’t been right for many years.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Well this is a first,wont let me say gnite and log out,whatever,the cats and dog will argue w/mr
March 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
# phatcable Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
jason campbell is the starter gradkowski is a distraction that could cause a locker room rift,now does it make sense.
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phatcable, this is why I usually ignore you. Al Davis, concerned about a rift in the locker room? Take another hit off the pipe to get your last fix, then get to rehab.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
# phatcable Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
jason campbell is the starter gradkowski is a distraction that could cause a locker room rift,now does it make sense.
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phatcable, this is why I usually ignore you. Al Davis, concerned about a rift in the locker room? Take another hit off the pipe to get your last fix, then get to rehab.
……………….well i try to ignore you too,and if it wasn;t for A.B Paine III you would have the dumbest posts on here.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
KK If he signed Jesus Christ you’d have an issue with it so you have zero credibility with me.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
REDONDO BEACH, Calif. – Millions of dead fish were found Tuesday floating in a Southern California marina. Boaters awakened to find a carpet of small silvery fish surrounding their vessels, said Staci Gabrielli, marine coordinator for King Harbor Marina on the Los Angeles County coast.
California Fish and Game officials believe the fish are anchovies and sardines.
Experts had yet to determine what happened, but Gabrielli said the fish appeared to have moved into the harbor to escape a red tide, a naturally occurring bloom of toxic algae that can poison fish or starve them of oxygen.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Loped is gonna mentor Wiz for a week or two, then move over Mule Loper
March 8th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
There’s nothing unholy about questioning the judgement of a General Manager who’s put up the numbers Al Davis has put up over the last 10 years, is it?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Wiz is a better C than Satelleee by week 3
March 8th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Questioning is welcomed but you’re psychotic
March 8th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Questioning is welcomed but you’re psychotic
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You’re a Bootlicker.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Al Davis got rid of Gradkowski because as soon as Campbell sucks, he knows what name the fans will be yelling. Al doesn’t want a rift in the locker room? Ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When has Al Davis ever cared about team chemistry? Hasn’t he stated several times he doesn’t believe in it? Isn’t Al known for pitting talent against talent and coaches against coaches? Al jettisoned Gradkowski so Campbell will be the one and only option.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Chris….i respect your football knowledge but Grad wasnt better than Campbell and that was proven. Cable panicked and it didnt pan out. Grad cant stay healthy or sustain a winning streak
March 8th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Grad is over people. Aso is over people. Gallery is over people. We moving on
March 8th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Grads can stay if he wears & works the mascot suit. Short of that, his tenure with the Raiders has ended. Thank for the memories & couple wins but the fat lady has completed the goodnight song – Turn out the lights, the party’s over…
March 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Kell your the biggest bootlickin biscuit begging shuck n buck clown ever so u have no room to speak
March 8th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
JB….this is the nfl and sometimes you gotta part with folks
March 8th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
knock him down bauce!
March 8th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Bauce Madness Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
My Daddy is the biggest bootlickin biscuit begging shuck n buck clown ever so u have no room to speak
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Really?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
I dont feel every move but I surely dont think the team has got worse
March 8th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
What’s up Bauce, how’s life treating ya’?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Ooooh look at the clever Kell replace my words with false stuff…amazing
March 8th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Bauce Madness Says:
March 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
My Daddy is the biggest bootlickin biscuit begging shuck n buck clown ever so u have no room to speak
March 8th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
if you want to root for the polish rifle go too inside the vikings or inside the cardinals thats where grads will end up.
March 8th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
BHP….IM STILL BREATHING……so I really cant complain. March Madness is here and tomorrow we will see what my lil cousin is made of
March 8th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
The Al Davis Clowns tonite, eh?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
What is it B?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Who’s your cousin?
March 8th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Hello KK
March 8th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Al Davis is a hands-off owner and we should be thankful we have him!
March 8th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Black Hole P, what it B
March 8th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Grad knows he has overachieved in his NFL career. I give him credit for sticking thru but soon guy wont be in league just like I told yall with Farglass. Lacks talent and talent always reigns supreme
March 8th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Sup D-Rac
March 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
BHP…..Michael Dixon #11 for Missouri….if they win tomorrow vs Tx Tech they will play Tx Am on espn2 on thursday at 6:30
March 8th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
162,FK,Hue Jack City is comin to a stadium near ya! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Kell….call it what you want but Al Davis is dope. Us real Raiders gonna ride with the old guy while some like you whine and b-tch all day n nite
March 8th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
AL Davis was the chief recruiter for The Citadel. From 1957 to 1959
March 8th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Hue Jack City lol….the signs at the game should be hilarious
March 8th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Good Raccoon good to hear from ya’
March 8th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
One of my fav movies ever is on AMC……Goodfellas!
March 9th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Hendu….you think Hue gonna be like Wesley during the staff meetings when someone gets outta line?…..”Sit yo 5 dollar ass down before I make change”
March 9th, 2011 at 12:03 am
would hue give randy hanson the rag doll treatment?
March 9th, 2011 at 12:06 am
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