A Raiders’ reminder about the days of 3-4 defense
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 9th, 2011 at 4:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Are the Raiders thinking of utilizing some 3-4 defense this year, an alignment they haven’t utlized as a base defense since returning to Oakland in 1995?
Considering the way they’ve loaded up defensive linemen _ re-signing Richard Seymour and John Henderson to team with Tommy Kelly, along with the development of Lemarr Houston, Matt Shaughnessy and Desmond Bryant _ it seems unlikely.
Yet here is a history lesson about the days when 3-4 defenses helped pave the way to three Super Bowl wins, posted today on Raiders.com.
“Using all forms of defense, these powerful, determined, intimidating football teams contributed to the Decades of Dominance, during which the Raiders have won an AFL Championship, four American Football Conference Championships, three World Championships of Professional Football, participated in five Super Bowls, played in 14 Championship Games, won or tied for 17 Division Championships, had 21 playoff seasons, finished 34 seasons at .500 or better and played in 40 postseason games.”
Nobody does nostalgia like the Raiders.
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March 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
1st
March 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
LA to the Bay, you clearly know nothing about football if you think the Raiders have seriously ran a zone defense at any point since the ’70s. Using occasional zone coverages is not the same thing as implementing a base zone defense.
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Didn’t say that but they weren’t ’sprinkling in’ zone either. It was zone-heavy. Go back and look at the Houston game and then read up on Mike Huff’s comments about dumping the whole scheme.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
If Al Davis’ Top Priority was Winning, he’d fire himself, period!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Spending money alone does not prove a sports owner “wants to win”. That is the dumbest, short sighted conclusion anyone could draw. Look at Al’s background. He’s OBSESSED with military strategy and being some sort of general-like figure. This is proven. He’s said publicly that he admires Hitler’s means of taking over Europe (noting he disagreed with his intent). Could an owner obsessed with power, control, and winning a war that really doesn’t even exist spend boat loads of money to feed such delusions of grandeur? I say yes. I don’t think Al’s generous salaries to whack players does anything to prove he wants to win. His supporters have even said themselves that Al loves to do these kinds of things just to rattle the other owners. He’s not trying to win. He’s trying to stay in the spotlight. Without these little gimmicks, the Raiders are just a lousy NFL team, and Al drifts away into a sea of irrelevancy.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
They might as well do with guys like you out here Jerry misguiding the masses on a daily basis.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
# priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Rob Ryan was always a favorite of mine and several players like Nnamdi and many others he jsut had NO HELP!!
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what do you mean about no help?
March 9th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
LA to the Bay, you draft and build for a defense that plays good zone. You don’t just use zone coverage for a few games, with a team built more for man coverage, and then tell your fans, “hey, we tried zone”. I think both you and Al Davis need to take a football 101 course.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Texans CB Kareem Jackson, the team’s 2010 first-round pick, could be the next pro athlete targeted by animal activists. On vacation in the Dominican Republic, Jackson attended two cockfights and even posted pictures on his Twitter feed of the events, according to KRIV-TV.
“My first time ever seeing chicken fight till the death it was crazy,” Jackson wrote on Twitter, according to KRIV, before later deleting the posts. “Look at all these people at these chicken fights: You would think it’s a college football game.”
Unlike in the U.S., cockfighting is legal in the Dominican Republic so Jackson has broken no law. But on the heels of the Michael Vick dog-fighting conviction, it’s somewhat surprising that any NFL player would crow about being at a cockfight.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
The Raiders are a base 4 man pressure man coverage team. As long as Al runs the show, that’s what we should expect. After the disaster that was our zone coverage in the first part of 2010, notably at SD and v. Houston I can’t blame him.
If we can take Rod Woodson at his word, seems like we can expect more diversity in 2011. Better be well coached and well executed, cause like it or not, the Raiders played much better when they went with “the Al.”
Out, Nation.
Be good…
March 9th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
You don’t just use zone coverage for a few games, with a team built more for man coverage, and then tell your fans, “hey, we tried zone”.
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LOL, wow – that was more of a reach than DHB and Mitchell combined.
We failed at zone just to say we did it. LOL!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Rod woodson being groomed for head coaching position!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
LA to the Bay you are wasting your time if you think MR knows anything about football that guy is here for one reason and one reason only CONTRAVERSY!!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…
The Flashman-series are NOTHING!! like the Tom Brown book..
Flashman, is coward, a wh0remonger, a gambler and a drunk.. he gets in on the most crazy adventures..
I sure can recommend’em, they are a fast read, so its not like its a burden to go through it..
March 9th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Rod Woodson says if he is going to be a head coach why not learn from the best coach davis!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Forget it LMN I’m bored….
Adios!!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
222.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
193.La Milicia Negra Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
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# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
LMN:
Saw your question about the Flashman books by G.M. Fraser.
They’re kind of interesting what with him being the bully from Tom Jones schooldays.
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exactly! thats why I asked you brits..
BTW, its ‘Tom Browns School days’ I assumed most brits read those in school as part of the syllabus..
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Lol.
Assumptions are often presumptious-although I did read it.
I’d rather read an Elmore Leonard book.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Forget it LMN I’m bored….
Adios!!
………………spellcheck =boring
March 9th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
227.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
153.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
I think Gallery has had it with the constant Head Coach & Offensive Line Coach changes. Too classy to say it out loud.
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Absolutely AMEN!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…
yup I saw it, and I answered it in post 13
March 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
prior years al davis owner/gm general managing partner/this year coach davis!!!!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
# confucius400 Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Forget it LMN I’m bored….
Adios!!
………………spellcheck =boring
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bwahahaha classic =)
March 9th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
The truth about Rob Ryan is that we don’t actually know how good he is despite the fact that he coached here.
As I understand it, Ryan would have been welcomed back with Marshall leaving but chose to go to Dallas where Huff will shortly follow him.
When Ryan was here he was forced to follow the Al Davis defence of 4-3, man-on-man and NO FUK’N blitzing!
Now. he’s a 3-4 coach.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Forget it LMN I’m bored….
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BHP…
fair enough, I was just curious about what you meant with no help..
but please come back with an answer when you are not bored anymore…
March 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Well, we’ll see about Rob Ryan in Dallas. Best Wishes.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Forget it LMN I’m bored….
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BHP…
fair enough, I was just curious about what you meant with no help..
but please come back with an answer when you are not bored anymore…
spellcheck =boring not bored
March 9th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Priest:
You made some interesting comments the other day about the Raiders having played the 3-4 during the Madden era.
True if you watch the film. Stork Hendricks blitzed whenever the hell he felt like it. He must have had the go ahead with that stuff though which means that Madden was a strong enough coach to deal with Al.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
NFL Trade Rumors: Would John Elway Consider Dealing Tim Tebow?
By Jim Berdysz (Contributor) on March 9, 2011 – Denver
Doug Pensinger/Getty Images Is Tim Tebow really on his way out of Denver?
Well, if new Broncos executive vice president John Elway has his way, Tebow could have very well played his last game in a Denver uniform.
What was once so promising in the Mile High City may have already ended before it even truly started.
Known as the best quarterback in team history, Elway will be overseeing general manager Brian Xanders this upcoming season, where he could potentially persuade Broncos ownership and even new head coach John Fox to get Tebow out of Denver.But the Raiders may be the only team interested.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
20.confucius400 Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
prior years al davis owner/gm general managing partner/this year coach davis!!!!
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THIS year! where hell have you been?!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
LMN:
I’ve read a couple of the Flashman books.
Have you ever read Elmore Leonard?
Brilliant characterizations and unblievable dialogue. Pure Americana. It’s like you KNOW those people.
The guy should have been up for a Noble a long time ago.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
222.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
193.La Milicia Negra Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
LMN:
Saw your question about the Flashman books by G.M. Fraser.
They’re kind of interesting what with him being the bully from Tom Jones schooldays.
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exactly! thats why I asked you brits..
BTW, its ‘Tom Browns School days’ I assumed most brits read those in school as part of the syllabus..
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Lol.
Assumptions are often presumptious-although I did read it.
I’d rather read an Elmore Leonard book.
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ENGLANDRAIDER…
The Flashman-series are NOTHING!! like the Tom Brown book..
Flashman, is coward, a wh0remonger, a gambler and a drunk.. he gets in on the most crazy adventures..
I sure can recommend them, they are a fast read, so its not like its a burden to go through it..
March 9th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The ONLY time the Raiders played 3-4 is the Ted Hendricks era, 4-5 years in the last 45.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
LMN:
I’ve read a couple of the Flashman books.
Have you ever read Elmore Leonard?
Brilliant characterizations and unblievable dialogue. Pure Americana. It’s like you KNOW those people.
The guy should have been up for a Noble a long time ago.
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yeah of course Elmore Leonard, and many of them have made it to Hollywood.. I like them, but sometimes they are just too much..
March 9th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
oh well, the book corner for tonight is over on my part, Ill need a smoke break…
March 9th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
i am bored adios!
March 9th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
That would be Nobel. And it hasn’t been a noble prize for quite awhile.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Humans, the condensed version
once upon a time, millions of years ago, there were some rather volatile primates who figured out how to use tools to kill both one another and any other lifeform.
then upon a time these creatures, who would later term themselves Homo sapiens sapiens (Wise wise man – we shall call them “saps” for expediency’s sake), figured out all manner of fantastic contraptions (vimanas) and deadly weapons (brahmastras)were developed…but that was 10,000 years ago.
The saps went to great lengths to kill, rape, and enslave the Earth.
Indeed, nearly all tribes of saps did the same to any other tribe of their own species.
There was no crime of birth too small to go unpunished by these saps.
Along the way for the saps was the creation of sporting games. (some pseudo-thinkers have surmised that sports are a deflection of or displacement for wars – they are discredited as the warring behaviour of saps is endless, no matter how many sports occur).
The sports of Greece were a collaboration of naked men.
The sports of Rome were fatal contests.
The sports of the Mayans required the victor to be slain.
Fast forward.
Saps came to found Gringo Futbol. The result was so deadly that it was outlawed.
Fast forward again.
At long last, after millions of years of marching unchecked the saps had finally met their match.
All previous nations had been paved over.
All previous sap sporting endeavours had been cauterized and left as dust.
The Raider Nation became.
Raider on.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
What the hell is Gringo Futbol?
March 9th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
31.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The ONLY time the Raiders played 3-4 is the Ted Hendricks era, 4-5 years in the last 45.
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From the article listed above:
Hall of Famer Howie Long was a key component in the Raiders 3-4 scheme during the 1983 Super Bowl Championship season. AP Photo.
The Oakland Raiders have long been evolving and diverse in the team’s defensive strategy. In fact, the Silver and Black utilized a 3-4 defense while capturing all three World Championships of Professional Football with victories in Super Bowl XI, XV and XVIII.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER,
you do already know that KK is of no empirical knowledge.
He vomits stuff and then hopes no one notices his inanity.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
And your point, Englandraider?
March 9th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…
The Flashman-series are NOTHING!! like the Tom Brown book..
Flashman, is coward, a wh0remonger, a gambler and a drunk.. he gets in on the most crazy adventures..
I sure can recommend them, they are a fast read, so its not like its a burden to go through it..
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LMN:
I realize that old son.
I meant that it was interesting how G.M Fraser had used the same character and, as I said, I’ve read a couple.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Correction:
Raiders Played 3-4 from 1976 to 1989.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/lineups.htm
March 9th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
al davis is king…no other team can win like that….
March 9th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
38.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
31.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The ONLY time the Raiders played 3-4 is the Ted Hendricks era, 4-5 years in the last 45.
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From the article listed above:
Hall of Famer Howie Long was a key component in the Raiders 3-4 scheme during the 1983 Super Bowl Championship season. AP Photo.
The Oakland Raiders have long been evolving and diverse in the team’s defensive strategy. In fact, the Silver and Black utilized a 3-4 defense while capturing all three World Championships of Professional Football with victories in Super Bowl XI, XV and XVIII.
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40.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
And your point, Englandraider?
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The difference between eleven and eighteen is seven but no big deal.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Correction:
Raiders Played 3-4 from 1976 to 1989.
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And who was coaching the Raiders defense during those years?
March 9th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I’d like to see a 3-4 look in passing situations that has Wimbley and Groves/Scott on the ends of the LOS standing up with Kelly, Seymour, and Houston. Those 5 should ALL be headed to the QB.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
43.olinesux Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
al davis is king…no other team can win like that….
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What do you mean 8-8 and Al preferred just winning 5 every year?
Effin idiot.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Hey KK:
It’s OK old soldier.
Coltrane lives.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Coltrane Lives!
March 9th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
AL Davis could replace charlie sheen on two and a half men!
March 9th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
John Madden & Tom Flores were the head coaches. I’d like to know who were the DC’s?
March 9th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
51.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
John Madden & Tom Flores were the head coaches. I’d like to know who were the DC’s?
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Al Davis.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Union says no to 18 games
Posted by Mike Florio on March 9, 2011, 8:25 PM EST
Though it’s unclear whether the NFLPA continues to posture on the issue in the hopes of getting the best financial deal possible, the union’s position on an expanded season is getting more and more clear.
In late January, NFLPA president Kevin Mawae said he “can’t sell” an 18-game season to his constituents. At a time when a feeling had emerged that the union would acknowledge the pie-growing benefits of two more regular-season games, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith says that expanding the season from 16 to 18 games won’t happen.
Speaking at the union’s Washington offices during an event arranged jointly with 106.7 the Fan, Smith was “categorical” that the union won’t agree to the change, according to Jim Trotter of SI.com.
“First of all, the league has never presented a formal proposal for 18 games,” Smith said. “But more importantly, it’s something that our players don’t want. Eighteen games is not in the best interest of our players’ safety, so we’re not doing it.”
Even if Smith is merely posturing, it will now be difficult for him to backtrack at a later date. It will be just as difficult for Commissioner Roger Goodell to stick with a four-game preseason after trashing consistently the quality of the games and expressing a strong desire to cut the full-price exhibition season in half.
Of course, after the union decertifies, the league will be able to play as many games as it wants to play. Barring a major reversal, decertification and litigation is where we’re headed.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Aaaah yes of course.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
50.phatcable Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
AL Davis could replace charlie sheen on two and a half men!
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Does that mean that Charlie would then run the Raider organization?
March 9th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RAIDERS UBER ALLES!!!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Aaaah yes of course.
………………..dude this is known as talking too yourself!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
So Davis was the DC who was running things the last time we ran the 3-4?
Interesting.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
al davis is a owner/gm/managing general partner/coach/scout/dc so if he brought herrera along with him made a show it would be called 6 1/2 men
March 9th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
10 seconds left, Dubs with the ball.
Let’s see if they do the right thing and go for the win!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Who cares who the DC is.
Just stop the run! So many years of LOUSY run defense…and now the pass defense will be challenged.
I don’t care who calls the plays…just call the right ones!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Move Branch to the single high safety and put Mitchell in as SS
March 9th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Just stop the run!
Then let Run DMC go wild.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Teams dine with Newton
Cam Newton worked out at Auburn’s pro day on Tuesday, but for me the workout was not as important as who actually took Newton to dinner. Both the Bills and Panthers had a private dinner with Newton, which will go a long way to determining their level of further interest. Newton the player is worth a top-five pick, but what clubs must determine is if Newton the person is worth that commitment. And this dinner setting is the first step in making a character evaluation.
How can a dinner determine a top pick? One dinner alone won’t make the decision. However, to make Newton the pick teams must first feel comfortable being in the same setting. This is just the first step, but an important one. Both the Bills and Panthers will be back to spend more time with Newton before they finalize their decisions, assuming the dinner went well.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
What I’ve been trying to tell you guys for years is very simple it’s football 101. In order to have a consistently good run defense you have to play with a lead a good amount of the time.
When Rob Ryan was here he rarely EVER had a lead he was always calling a defensive defense (in other words) he was always playing to stop the run before he could rush the passer. When you can get a team to play one-dimensional you are able o be much more creative in your playcalling. Everytime we played SD they were allowed to just hand the ball to LT with no threat of getting behind. The same is true with most teams we played they could indiscriminately run at us. Of course your run D is going to suffer as well as your ability to get creative defensively.
You saw what happened last year we could score teams like SD were under siege and they folded under the pressure. Because we had a LEAD………..get it
That’s what I meant when I said Rob Ryan had NO HELP!!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
The best defenses in the NFL run the 3-4 and blitz.
People who are too stubborn to learn from other’s success are stupid.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I think a dinner says a whole lot. When the Raiders had dinner with Ja’porkus and he order the whole right side of the menu, it should have been a red flag!
March 9th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Round 2: Stefen Wisniewski, Center, Penn State
The nephew of Raiders great Steve Wisniewski would be an instant fan-favorite in Oakland.
Sportsline.com has him projected as the second best center and is projected to be selected in either the second or third round.
The New Wiz has the toughness and intelligence for the position but must work on strength.
That of course is perfect for the Raiders, because o-line assistant Steve Wisniewski was the strength and conditioning coach for the Stanford Cardinal in 2010.
The Raiders are without a pick in the first round, a pick traded to New England for Richard Seymour.
I also wrote a list of alternate picks, based on the projections on Sportsline.com.
Here is that list:
Marcus Cannon, OT-TCU
Curtis Brown, CB-Texas
Akeem Ayers, LB-UCLA
Justin Houston, LB-Georgia
Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy
March 9th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Move Stevie Brown to High Safety, Put Mike Mitchell at SS.
Move Branch to the Bench.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
what are you talking about Priest? 10th in total offense last season and 6th in scoring offense.
Yet, 29th in rushing D!
Get this done, and then the rest is up to Hue.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Priesttj Post 65,
The Raiders were something 6th in scoring and 10th in both number of offensive plays from scrimmage AND yards.
So why couldn’t the defense stop the run last year? Or the pass for that matter giving up 30 pass TDs?
March 9th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Reign Of Terror Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I think a dinner says a whole lot. When the Raiders had dinner with Ja’porkus and he order the whole right side of the menu, it should have been a red flag!
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Exactly. I doubt they even met JaMarcus Russell beforehand.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Kirk we don’t have to learn from others success dude we won 3 SB playing 3/4 and blitzing probably before you were born. This stuff is not new everything you see now has been done before. Sure thee may be a few twist here and there but it’s the same old soup warmed over……………….period
March 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
There is no excuse for the run defense woes in Oakland. None. Teams elected to run on the Raiders defense because they couldn’t stop it.
Of course, the run defense might actually get better by default as opposing QBs take more shots in the air with Nnamdi out of the picture
March 9th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Round 3: Buster Skrine, Cornerback, Chattanooga
Buster Skrine has reportedly run the 40-yard dash in the 4.2s.
If Al Davis decides to oblige his perennial need for speed, then Skrine would best fit the bill.
Skrine also posted the best bench press numbers amongst defensive backs.
He is currently projected between Rounds 4 and 6 but has likely moved up that projection to Round 3 to 5.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Phatcable,
The Raiders should not be drafting any CB named “Buster” that runs a 4.2…
March 9th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
SnB,
We had 3 LBs playing their respective positions for the first time on an NFL. Zero experience as far as starting in the NFL.
One true rookie DE and the other DE was a first year starter, 2nd year player.
Safe to say we should be much better next year with those 5 guys having a year of experience under their belts.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Kirk we don’t have to learn from others success dude we won 3 SB playing 3/4 and blitzing probably before you were born.
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But “we” ain’t running it now, or the last 23 years, are “we”?
March 9th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Sports is a little like fashion it comes around and goes around again. Like the platform shoes women wear now the first time they wore them in the 30’s we wore them in the 70’s and now they’re wearing them again just with a different spin on them. But they’re still platform shoes.
The 46 defense was devised by Weeb Eubank of the NYJ’s with Joe Namath well they brought it back in the 80’s and won a SB now Rex Ryan is running it again just with zone blitz elements in it.
Just like there are 5 different variations of the WCO now, we have a verticle version of the WCO believe it or not. The Eagles run it then you have Shanahans version in Houston. It’s not new just wrapped a little different.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Rob Ryans defense blew more games with that cant prevent crap defense than anything I’ve ever seen. Flat out horrible.
March 9th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
74.SnB Production Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
There is no excuse for the run defense woes in Oakland. None. Teams elected to run on the Raiders defense because they couldn’t stop it.
Of course, the run defense might actually get better by default as opposing QBs take more shots in the air with Nnamdi out of the picture
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Can’t figure that one out. Since Al wants to let Aso go, some people like to rag on him cuz Al dont want him. But when a corner can completely shut down his side, can’t your d now anticipate half the field, or double up on the other side? Where are the brains in this organization?
March 9th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
KK as much as you say you know Raider football you are very ignorant of what we actually DO. Yes we run the 3/4 in passing situations normally when have Henderson in the game. Now they’re doing hybrid defenses with a particular base dfense and then mix up the fronts from 4/3to 3/4. WE run a variety of coverages last year. What confuses most in here is they normaly leave Nnamdi where he is no matter what defense they are in and most fans think it’s the same defense but it’s not. When you see 2 safeties blitz like we did often last year that is out of cover zero or roll-up zone or they could show a cover3 look with MM34. The time when we had 5 safeties was geared to stop the run with Huff covering any WR, but the Jags schemed us and beat it. If Huff does his job the scheme works.
I don’t believe we had the personnell to run a fulltime 3/4 defense last year and that may have been why you didn’t see a lot more of it.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
What I’ve been trying to tell you guys for years is very simple it’s football 101. In order to have a consistently good run defense you have to play with a lead a good amount of the time.
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And I guess you better have a good pass defense because all the teams will try and catch up thru the air, since they wont be able to run. Or in other words, to have a lead a good amount of the time you just pretty much have to be a good football team all around. Like dont miss game winning field goals.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Same comments as always from SnB he just doesn’t get it prior to last year opposing teams were getting on average 2 extra drives per game. That is probably 15 extra snaps. Sooner or later you are going to give up a big run or two. Also over time your defense gets worn down and they are not as efficient as they should be. Yeah they could play better but we were a dominant defense we were a fast defense and giving opposing teams 15 extra snaps every game adds up.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
WTF!
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Chuck Bresnahan, hired on Feb. 1 as a “defensive coach,” was officially elevated to defensive coordinator Monday.
The Raiders won three consecutive AFC West titles, including an AFC title, with Bresnahan as defensive coordinator from 2000 through 2002. He was fired along with much of Bill Callahan’s staff after a 4-12 season in 2003.
Bresnahan replaces John Marshall, whose contract was not renewed after the 2010 season.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
KK as much as you say you know Raider football you are very ignorant of what we actually DO.
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Really? I don’t remember any 3-4 line-ups.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
The RB’s the Raiders should scout and take a look at if a RB is higher on there board compared to other positions in Rounds 3 or 4 are:
Syracuse RB Delone Carter and Hawaii RB Alexander Green
March 9th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Anybody else here remember the Raiders playing a 3-4 last year?
Holla!!!
March 9th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
# phatcable Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Round 2: Stefen Wisniewski, Center, Penn State
The nephew of Raiders great Steve Wisniewski would be an instant fan-favorite in Oakland.
Sportsline.com has him projected as the second best center and is projected to be selected in either the second or third round.
The New Wiz has the toughness and intelligence for the position but must work on strength.
That of course is perfect for the Raiders, because o-line assistant Steve Wisniewski was the strength and conditioning coach for the Stanford Cardinal in 2010.
The Raiders are without a pick in the first round, a pick traded to New England for Richard Seymour.
I also wrote a list of alternate picks, based on the projections on Sportsline.com.
Here is that list:
Marcus Cannon, OT-TCU
Curtis Brown, CB-Texas
Akeem Ayers, LB-UCLA
Justin Houston, LB-Georgia
Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy
^^^^^^^^^
If Cannon or Wiz are gone by the time the Raiders pick in Round 2, then they need to TRADE DOWN!
March 9th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
It comes down to your pass rush getting to the QB and beat him down………………period
March 9th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
That’s exactly my point KK you don’t know what you’re looking at MOST of the time.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
As opposed to tj who knew JaMeatball was the next J Unitas, or Nick Miller is a db killer, or A Shields will be the next J Rice, or DHB is better than T Brown, C Branch, and T.O.
lmao
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# priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
That’s exactly my point KK you don’t know what you’re looking at MOST of the time.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Inthe Steelers game when Henderson almost got a personal foul on Ben that was from the 3/4. I think we would have used it a lot more if Big John had been healthy all year.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
BSP
You’re such an X & O Genius, you make it seem so simple, plus I understand you have a working relationship with Al Davis.
Why have the Raiders only had 7 winning seasons in the last 23 years?
March 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Because there are 31 other teams that want to do the same thing. If everything isn’t right at the same time you WONT WIN…………..period
March 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Why have the Raiders only had 7 winning seasons in the last 23 years?
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Because the NFL is a tough place, and you have to be good from top to bottom. Gruden was 3 of those 7 (yes, Callahan was Grudens team), so as you can see, it is not that easy. No way.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Priesttj Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Because there are 31 other teams that want to do the same thing. If everything isn’t right at the same time you WONT WIN…………..period
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But so many other teams are doing so much better?
March 9th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
That’s life in the big city son what else you wanna know?
March 9th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Nobody ever said winning in the NFL is easy, but there are teams that do it consistently, hello?
March 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
All I’m saying is if Al Davis can’t compete as a
gm, he should retire.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
March 9th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Oh no here we go!!
Adios!!
March 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
BSP
Don’t run off, you were just lecturing us about winning and it’s difficulty in the NFL………
March 9th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
“Teams would watch our waiver wire,” five-time Pro Bowl wideout Tim Brown said last summer, “because the word around the league was that the Raiders were going to release football players and keep the guys Al likes.”
In 1988 Davis ordered Shanahan to play Willie Gault, a former Olympic sprinter, ahead of Brown. Shanahan refused because Brown’s superiority to Gault was so obvious in practice. “That was the biggest fight we ever had,” says Shanahan. “No one had ever stood up to him. Everyone there is afraid of him, so that’s the behavior he expects.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/3/index.htm#ixzz1GAJHMooo
March 9th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
104.KoolKell Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
“Teams would watch our waiver wire,” five-time Pro Bowl wideout Tim Brown said last summer, “because the word around the league was that the Raiders were going to release football players and keep the guys Al likes.”
In 1988 Davis ordered Shanahan to play Willie Gault, a former Olympic sprinter, ahead of Brown. Shanahan refused because Brown’s superiority to Gault was so obvious in practice. “That was the biggest fight we ever had,” says Shanahan. “No one had ever stood up to him. Everyone there is afraid of him, so that’s the behavior he expects.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/3/index.htm#ixzz1GAJHMooo
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Ouch!
March 9th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
shanarat…nice source
March 9th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Olinesux Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
shanarat…nice source
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I believe he was the Head Coach at the time and in a position to know, no?
March 9th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
LOL. It looks like I’m only here for “contraversy!!”
March 9th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Doesn’t seem like it with the current coaches and all and people have stated already they won’t but could the Raiders move back to a 3-4?
Why else would they post this?
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-an-Evolving-Defense/976e0e85-7da8-4c90-a489-e0ba8f6539fb
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Caught Jerry at nap time!~
March 9th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
youre talking about shanarat…I thought you knew….
March 9th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
104. 1-800-waaaaah!
“Al Davis is the boogey man!” “Al Davis is ruining the Raiders!”
The Raiders HE built mind you.
Has he f’ed up.
Big time.
Has he brought glory.
Big time.
We’re the ones with 3 Lombardi’s.
Not KC, Not Denver, Not (lmao) San Diego
Are we due for more?
Yes we are.
Like it or absolutely hate it theres no 2 ways around it. Raider fans owe it all to Al Davis.
Good and Bad
March 9th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Al Davis never built a winning NFL team in his life. See Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden.
March 9th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Al built a solid AFL team, before the merger. The merger hasn’t been good to Al. The NFL is just too advanced. He needed Ron Wolf in the beginning, then thought he could survive the NFL on his own. When he realized he couldn’t, he brought in Gruden for a little help. Gruden made the Raiders a solid NFL football team, Al tried to jettison him at the right time and take the credit for Gruden’s work. The rest is history. Al Davis understands AFL football. Problem is, we’re no longer playing in the AFL.
March 9th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
112 mrs,you are such a miserable moron,isnt it time for another nap? Please
March 9th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Al Davis evaluates talent like few people the NFL has ever seen…and certainly far better than anyone on this blog. Talent is talent…and the Old Man is a great talent evaluator, to this day. Personality and character, though, he has a little more trouble with. And don’t we all.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Nnamdi21 #111 AMEN!!! No one is perfect and at times he is far from it. But he’s the one we owe it all to…………….period
March 9th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
113,mrs,youre posts seem like someone on speed,lots of short,quick thoughts making little sense, 112,113,etc Just Sayin,imo
March 9th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
The one comment he made during that last presser was when he commented about his wife giving him the business because she was used to winning like the rest of us. He gets it from everyone when he screws up but we should acknowledge his accomplishments the same.
Hopefully we are back on track this sesson will be fun to watch IMO!!
March 9th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
HD37 Amen brotha!! post#115
March 9th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
What he did 30 years ago is great. What about the fans & players of today?
March 9th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Oh, Hayes, we know all about Al’s unique way of evaluating talent. From Dan Pastorini to DHB.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Priest, nobody’s forcing Al to run an NFL team. If he doesn’t like the criticism, he knows where the door is.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
So do you? don’t let it hit ya’ in the backcrack……
March 9th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Hey, I’m not complaining about your guys’ criticism of me! I find it humorous. You were the one crying “whoa is Al”, about how he gets it from everyone when he fails. Who in the hell told him he had to get into this business? If he can’t handle it, he can quit whenever he wants.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
“whoa is Al”
“whoa is Al!!”
!!!!!!!!!!
That’s “WOE,” MR.
Now THAT is hilarious!
Whoa is MR!
March 9th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Hue Jackson: Al Davis does not call all the shots on Raiders
Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson on Wednesday said that is he, and not team owner Al Davis, who is making the final decisions about his staff.
“I know you hear all the different stories about the Raiders, but none of those things are true,” Jackson told Sirius NFL Radio.
“Coach Davis has done a great job of creating an environment for the players and coaches to be successful. That’s what we’re looking to do.”
The Raiders hired Jackson this month to replace the fired Tom Cable. Jackson served as offensive coordinator under Cable last season.
He said last week he was excited to join ranks with Davis, whose team went 8-8 last season to clinch its first non-losing campaign since 2002.
Jackson hasn’t filled out his entire coaching staff yet, but said any presumption that Davis is calling the shots is false.
“Everybody always says that everything is done by (Davis),” Jackson told Sirius. “That’s not true. I’m hiring this (coaching) staff. He made me the head coach of this team and said, ‘Hue, let’s go.’
“Obviously, I bounce everything off of him. Why wouldn’t I? This is his team. But he doesn’t sit there and rule everything with an iron-clad fist. The guy runs a draft as well as anyone I’ve ever seen. This guy knows football. To not use him as a resource would not be very smart on my part.”
March 9th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Man Mr Davis doesn’t even this stuff is like background noise. He’s watching film right now getting ready for the draft while you’re in here complaining.
Get a clue!!
March 9th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Thank you, Hayes. Make it “woe is Al”. Priest was crying “woe is Al”, about how everyone picks on him when he loses. Cry me a river. He can quit this business any time he wants. Last I checked, Al makes a decent living “getting it from everyone”.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Hue Jackson: Al Davis does not call all the shots on Raiders
Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
Oakland Raiders head coach Hue Jackson on Wednesday said that is he, and not team owner Al Davis, who is making the final decisions about his staff.
“I know you hear all the different stories about the Raiders, but none of those things are true,” Jackson told Sirius NFL Radio.
“Coach Davis has done a great job of creating an environment for the players and coaches to be successful. That’s what we’re looking to do.”
Dont believe that crap you hear from RealMaddenRaider and KoolKell i call the shots not Coach Davis
March 9th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Well, priest, you just said Al gets it from everyone, including his wife. Now you’re saying he doesn’t even notice it? Make up your mind. Is Al under an unfair attack, or is he impervious to it anyway? To say he “gets it from everyone” implies some level of victimhood. That it hurts him, etc. If it doesn’t, then why would you care that everyone criticizes Al? Either he cares or he doesn’t, priest.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Sorry, Hue. Al said less than a year ago he’s “heavily involved”. You want to be a good employee for “Coach Davis”, do what you gotta do. But don’t play the fans for idiots.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Wisconsin GOP Strips Public Workers’ Bargaining RightsMar 9, 2011 – 10:23 PM .READING THIS NOW
AP MADISON, Wis. — The Wisconsin Senate succeeded in voting Wednesday to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers, after Republicans outmaneuvered the chamber’s missing Democrats and approved an explosive proposal that has rocked the state and unions nationwide.GOP has stated it will not rest until all unions are a thing of the past.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
I never said he gets an unfair attack you are making up words I said he screws up and gets it from his wife as well as everyone else I never said it was fair or unfair. So what are you talking about poor Al Davis I never spoke a word about being sympathetic for him in any way.
Can you comprehend that? He’s his own man…………..period
March 9th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Whoa, Roller Girl is still very emotional that Al Davis fired him from the Limo wash detail.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Roller Girl, do you have a Job?
March 9th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
That guy twist words worse than an ALS patient. Putting words in folks mouth. Like I said before contraversy is his calling card.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
priest, you’re crying woe is Al (thanks again for the correction, Hayes). You’re mad because everyone’s picking on poor little Mr. Davis. He chose to get in this business, priest, and he can leave any time he wants to if he can’t take the heat.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
I’m all about “contraversy” priest. Why doesn’t Hayes ever correct your writing?
March 9th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
you’re sick man take your meds.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Preist, you take your meds. This whole “stop picking on Al” thing is just ridiculous. He chose to weasel control of the Raiders the way he did, and he chooses to stay in control of the team. He’s one of 32 NFL owners. It’s a unique position in life and with it comes a lot of responsibility, and a lot of criticism. If he just doesn’t have the stomach for it, the exit plan is always there. It’s all on him. And considering how long he’s failed for, he can expect to just get tortured with criticism for the rest of his life. It’s no way to go into your golden years. But if it’s what Al wants, it’s there for him. He can’t do this and play the innocent victim role, though. That won’t work. He can only play innocent victim if he leaves. He leaves the team operations, and still gets picked on, then he’s been unfairly picked on. Until then, it’s open season on Al.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
you’re having a conversation with yourself because i have no idea what you’re talking about. criticize him all you want it’s not my business…………proceed
adios!
March 9th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Corporations got their way again in Wisconsin, it looks like. Man, the president’s Marxist agenda sure is sweeping the country, isn’t it? LOL.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
priest, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if you weren’t being defensive of Davis, saying he’s “getting it from everyone”, kiddo.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I’m not happy with some of the moves Al is making now. Attributing any value to a guy like Hiram freaking Eugene, and thinking “man we gotta keep THIS guy”, is ridiculous.
Seriously, watch some tape of this guy and tell me with a straight face that he belongs on a team that claims to be poised for a playoff run.
When I think Hiram Eugene, I think of that play when McGahee absolutely clowned his stupid azz on an 80 yd. touchdown run. That was one of the most humiliating, embarrassing displays of “defense” I have ever seen.
I know u can’t judge a player on one single play, but in Eugenes’ case it epitonmizes what he brings to the table.
Hiram freaking Eugene? Yeah, we’re ready for Pittsburgh now.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Oakland Raider owner Al Davis is looking to cook up something big for the 2011-2012 season. The NFL Scouting Combine is now over and free agency should soon start, provided the C.B.A. is reached.
This means that the time is coming to shop for the groceries to cook this things up for 2011-2012. The Raiders have most of their main ingredients at home as Nnamdi Asomugha is the only one out testing the market.
If you want to call a bust named Robert Gallery a main ingredient, be my guest because I won’t. The Raiders are now looking to add a few more necessary ingredients in order for it all to blend right.
The ingredients the Raiders need are out there in both free agency and the draft. If the Raiders shop this offseason the way the did in 2010, a contender will be cooked up for 2011 and years to come.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
DJ it’s not that bad brotha he’s a teams player. lol boy you guys are way overreacting to that one. The coaches like him obviously he’s just one player relax….lol
March 9th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Hey Raider fans! Just checked in to see if there is Raider talk or hair pulling. My estimate is about 15-85%.
I like the signings so far. So what if Eugene gets a little overpaid? Its Al’s money, not mine. We’re keeping a lot of guys from a good squad last year. And who can tell where the CBA will shake out? I hope and expect Namdhi to be back. I’m hoping for another smart draft, going OL with our 1st pick.
That’s it. Back to the purses.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
145. Gallery is a catch 22. We liked him when he was here because he was the best lineman.
Not so fond of him now because he’s gone and frankly a #2 overall who fails at tackle and get “Mandriched” inside to Guard and injured alot, well, thats a dissapointment.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
From 1963 until 1992, the Raiders were 285-146-11, the best record in all of professional sports.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Word up Plunk.
Looks like we’re trying to keep the same elements but Gallery’s departure and the switch back from a ZBS to more traditional power blocking leaves questions.
On the D side losing Nnamdi and Huff would probably hurt.
Can’t see that happening.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Yeah, I should probably move away from the ledge on Eugene given he’s basically just a ST player. I hope he stays in that capacity. I haven’t forgiven him yet for that severe clowning from McGahee.
On a positive note, I really believe “Coach” is gonna come through with some very nice additions to the roster..on both sides of the ball, before it’s all said and done.
We are all looking at this club from who we have NOW and speculating on who we will draft.
I predict some very positive vibes on this blog when we start hearing of some the signings we will get once the smoke clears from all the CBA stuff.
Well, at some here will be excited to hear of the good stuff.
I really believe some really good stuff is coming our way.
March 9th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
DJ I do to the signings we’ve made so far are trying to keep the core players and things will start to get interesting on draft day.
Be patient!!
well I’m out
March 9th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Peace owt Priest
March 9th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Heres a flyer.
Panthers go D line with the #1.
Denver takes with the #2…Cam Newton.
They defray by trading…Tim Tebow.
Wheres Tebow go?
Don’t know.
Cincy for Palmer?
A deal with Buffalo?
Trade Tebow for the Bills pick and get another blue chip pick?
Who knows?
March 9th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
So many positives going into this coming season though.
-We’re on the upswing going from 5-11 to 8-8.
-Better HC to lead the team.
-Darren McFadden/Michael Bush
-Jacoby Ford
-Seymour/Mc Clain
-Miller (I hope)..as in Zach.
-The “new” guys Al will bring in. I believe he will.
I’m not excited about all of the moves so far but overall we will be excited to get rolling.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Worst case, Denver takes Dareus.
I really like what Fairley brings but think there may be some ?s about effort.
Dareus is also 318. Bigger but with freakishly quick feet.
Yikes…lets hope he goes to the NFC. Carolina? Ya feelin’ me?
March 9th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
155. Good job.
Have to put Satele, Marcel Reece and Veldheer on that list of positives.
Seymour too.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
For those of you who keep thinking the ZBS will be completely ditched…here is more proof that you are wrong.
Q: What type of running game will you feature?
Coach Jackson: The zone game will always be a part of my game, there’s no question, but I am a power running type of guy. I like to kind of block down, kick out, lead somebody up through. That’s kind of who I am and I like to do that, but I like to do a lot of different things because I think defensive coordinators in this league are very, very good so I think you have to be multiple in your ability to run the football and I think we will continue to do that. So we’re not going to totally go away from the zone game because it’s been very good to our football team, but we also want to just keep incorporating more things so we can be a very good running team and we have a chance to be.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
# phatcable Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
From 1963 until 1992, the Raiders were 285-146-11, the best record in all of professional sports.
……………….
Well then, all we need to do is convince the rest of the league that it’s still some time between 1963 and 1992, and we should be fine.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Coach Davis will restore the Raiders to greatness.
http://bleacherreport.com/oakland-raiders
March 9th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/621081-oakland-raider-owner-al-davis-the-old-fool-knows-exactly-what-hes-doing
March 9th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Roller Girl, what is your occupation?
March 9th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Coach Davis will welcome RMR any time he wants to attend a Raider football game. He appreciates your business. You do have a team jersey right? With Madden Raider on it right? Thats what you said. So if you really are a Raider fan, treat Coach Davis with a little more respect please.
March 9th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Fair enough. I respectfully ask that Mr. Davis retire immediately, so my favorite football team can win again. If he doesn’t, I will respectfully insult his old crusty ass on a daily basis. Is that respectful enough?
March 9th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
No it isn’t. That would be Coach Davis to you, not Mr. Davis, and Coach Davis would kindly ask that you wait until this season plays out before you offer up anymore criticism. Coach Davis has been working very hard at putting the 2011 Raiders season together and graciously asks that you be patient with him.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Oh the Raiders are your favorite team??? Hmmm coulda fooled me RG.
Why is this franchise your favorite? What did they do to get that status?
Were you born into a Raider family?
Did you one day just pick a winning team, and stuck too it?
Were one of the many that jumped on the Raider wagon in 1999-2003?
Do the Raiders reflect you heart and soul?
Is the Raiders image what you want your image to be?
March 10th, 2011 at 1:32 am
162, bleecher report? Really? Bleetchur report?!
Gawd help us if people think bleacher report is anything more than what we’re doing right here on this blog
March 10th, 2011 at 6:04 am
good morning nation,
anything new on the cba negotiations??? last i heard the players are not going for an eighteen game season and hired gunslingers to look at the owners books.. are we going to have a season??
March 10th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Gooooood Morning my american friends!
March 10th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Morning LMN,Nation
March 10th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Good morning all.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Quiet this morning.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:23 am
G Robert Gallery (6′ 7″, 325 lbs) has made it clear that he will part ways with the Oakland Raiders. Since the release of former head coach Tom Cable, Gallery has been at odds with the organization.
Losing Robert Gallery, however, will not hurt the Oakland Raiders. In fact, they may actually prosper by picking up a guard in the NFL draft or through free agency.
Gallery was drafted in 2004. As the second overall pick in the NFL draft, Gallery signed a seven-year contract with the Oakland Raiders. From the start it appeared that Gallery would be a bust as he was often burned by the defense and the QB was hurried or sacked.
While Gallery has improved, his asking price is much higher than what he should be paid. Recently, Gallery had been seeking $8 million from the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis didn’t bother to look into his check book as he and the Silver and Black were thinking $2.5 million, which is about Gallery’s worth.
Do you feel Robert Gallerys departure will hurt the Raiders offense?
No
Yes
Submit Vote vote to see results Do you feel Robert Gallerys departure will hurt the Raiders offense?No88.3%Yes11.7%Total votes: 540 It appears that rookie Bruce Campbell will take over for Robert Gallery. Campbell was selected in the fourth round of the 2010 Draft by the Oakland Raiders (106th pick overall). He looks solid, and should do well in the running game.
Campbell will surprise a lot of fans. Weighing in around 315 lbs, the 6′ 6″ lineman is a beast, and when moving forward he can help set the run tone for RB Darren McFadden.
On special teams last season, Campbell took on multiple speedy defenders and opened holes in space. He is also quick to set the edge. During his tenure at Maryland, he did a great job jamming opponents with heavy hands and was quick to reset when pass rushers attempted to slap his hands away.
The Oakland Raiders could possibly pick up another OL from the NFL draft this year or pick up a veteran that has proven talent. It’s very unfortunate that many first rounders are handed huge amounts of money, only to be a bust at the professional levels (a.k.a. JaMarcus Russell). Yet, there are some stellar players in the draft, so it will be exciting to see who the Raiders pick up next.
As for veterans, Logan Mankins would have been perfect for the task, however the New England Patriots franchised him earlier this season. Mankins wanted a huge contract and it wasn’t likely Al Davis would go after him.
It appears that the Raiders are working to keep a lot of last season’s players. The team was on the verge of a playoff run, however there were issues at QB and that may have hindered their efforts last season.
Many players have been resigned (Richard Seymour, Kamerion Wimbley, Tyvon Branch, Stanford Routt, etc.). On the rookie side, Mike Mitchell, Rolando McClain and Jacoby Ford are budding superstars and their futures are looking extremely bright in Oakland, California.
Of course there is also the Asomugha free agency issue. In all likelihood, Al Davis will pay to keep the best in Oakland.
The Oakland Raiders have made some extreme decisions, yet every one of them seems correct thus far. This team should have no problem taking the AFC West Championship. The focus in Oakland will have to be defeating teams such as the New England Patriots. That’s a game this writer will definitely be attending.
Go Raiders, and welcome Bruce Campbell to the starting lineup!
March 10th, 2011 at 7:23 am
The easy answer to a 18 game season is more bye weeks.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:28 am
YAHOO sports has the Raiders draft picks from last year ranked at 5th in the league.This is what they said…..
“The Raiders had one of their best rookie crops in some time, producing three PFW/PFWA All-Rookie picks – first-round MLB Rolando McClain, second-round DE Lamarr Houston and fourth-round WR-RS Jacoby Ford, who earned the honor as a kickoff returner.
McClain did a solid job stuffing the run (85 tackles), Houston had a knack for always being around the ball and Ford was a legitimate home-run threat on a number of levels, providing seven TDs as a returner/receiver/rusher”.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:29 am
neilb Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:23 am
The easy answer to a 18 game season is more bye weeks.
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The players dont want it, and the fans dont want it. Owners should just drop it.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Tampa,New England,Green Bay and Kansas were ahead of the Raiders.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Bcz24…..
More bye weeks or 18 games?
March 10th, 2011 at 7:32 am
175.neilb Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:28 am
YAHOO sports has the Raiders draft picks from last year ranked at 5th in the league.This is what they said…..
“The Raiders had one of their best rookie crops in some time, producing three PFW/PFWA All-Rookie picks – first-round MLB Rolando McClain, second-round DE Lamarr Houston and fourth-round WR-RS Jacoby Ford, who earned the honor as a kickoff returner.
McClain did a solid job stuffing the run (85 tackles), Houston had a knack for always being around the ball and Ford was a legitimate home-run threat on a number of levels, providing seven TDs as a returner/receiver/rusher”.
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What about our Pook LT J. Veldeehereeerre
KC did have a really good draft.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Dirty Raccoon…..
Didn’t mention him.Can give you the link if you want.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=pfw-20110309_cream_of_the_2010_rookie_crop
March 10th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Clear Remy
March 10th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Will we have a real season?
March 10th, 2011 at 8:07 am
113.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Al built a solid AFL team, before the merger. The merger hasn’t been good to Al. The NFL is just too advanced. He needed Ron Wolf in the beginning, then thought he could survive the NFL on his own. When he realized he couldn’t, he brought in Gruden for a little help. Gruden made the Raiders a solid NFL football team, Al tried to jettison him at the right time and take the credit for Gruden’s work. The rest is history. Al Davis understands AFL football. Problem is, we’re no longer playing in the AFL.
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Right. Al Davis has only had success in the AFL. Black is white, up is down, we’re through the looking glass here, people.
The MRBS detector is picking up some pretty heavy readings off this cowpie of a post.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:19 am
2) OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), CB Curtis Brown (Texas), OT/OG Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), or OLB Mason Foster (Washington)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), OT/OG Orlando Franklin (Miami), NT/DT Jerrell Powe (Ole Miss), C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), or CB Brandon Burton (Utah)
4) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), CB Jalil Brown (Colorado), OLB/DE Chris Carter (Fresno State), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), or FS Robert Sands (West Virginia)
5) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)
6) DE/DT Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas), CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (Miami), or TE Jordan Cameron (USC)
7) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
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Re-sign: Miller (RFA tendered), Bush (RFA tendered), Reece (RFA), Satele (RFA tendered), Bryant (RFA), Barnes, Mario Henderson, and Condo (RFA tendered).
Huff will test the FA market.
Possible FA targets:
OT Nick Kaczur or Jammal Brown
FS Jarrad Page
TE Matt Spaeth
CB Eric Wright or Richard Marshall
March 10th, 2011 at 8:33 am
@DDavy Jones
A measley 7 winning seasons since Free Agency in 1989, why?
March 10th, 2011 at 8:36 am
“Though Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather has yet to personally address the allegation that he fired a bullet on February 27 that struck two men, Meriweather’s legal guardian disputes the claim.
“It’s not true,” Tim Bridges told Ian Rapoport of the Boston Herald.”
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What he really did was whip his helmet off and tried beating the two men to death…oh no wait, thats what he did in College at Florida…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/10/meriweathers-guardian-says-allegations-arent-true/related
March 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Damn. Looks like Jarrad Page’s value just shot through the roof.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:39 am
185.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:33 am
@Davy Jones
A measley 7 winning seasons since Free Agency in 1989, why?
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You know what Kell? If the contention were that Al Davis hasn’t adapted well to FA, then I’d have a hard time arguing with that. Seems to be doing better these past few years, but the DeAngelo Hall/Javon Walker failure is fresh in the memory.
But that’s not the contention, the contention is that Al Davis is responisble for none of the Oakland Raiders success post merger. Are you signing off on that load of tripe?
March 10th, 2011 at 8:39 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:32 am
175.neilb Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:28 am
YAHOO sports has the Raiders draft picks from last year ranked at 5th in the league.This is what they said…..
“The Raiders had one of their best rookie crops in some time, producing three PFW/PFWA All-Rookie picks – first-round MLB Rolando McClain, second-round DE Lamarr Houston and fourth-round WR-RS Jacoby Ford, who earned the honor as a kickoff returner.
McClain did a solid job stuffing the run (85 tackles), Houston had a knack for always being around the ball and Ford was a legitimate home-run threat on a number of levels, providing seven TDs as a returner/receiver/rusher”.
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What about our Pook LT J. Veldeehereeerre
KC did have a really good draft.
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Read an article from way back at raider nation station talking about the “myth of the Raider draft” and how instead of being horrible H/W/S non football guys we’ve actually made some surprisingly solid draft picks in later rounds.
Aside from our top 1st round picks of late we’ve snagged some contributors in later roudns
March 10th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Morning peoples!
March 10th, 2011 at 8:48 am
The numbers speak for themselves 7 winning seasons in 23 years since Free Agency. Why?
I’m not concerned at ALL with Al’s successes of 30 years ago.
If you guys want to argue about what happened 30 years ago, carry on. I’m interested in modern history.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Good Morning Raider Nation..
March 10th, 2011 at 8:50 am
I am here.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:53 am
191.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:48 am
The numbers speak for themselves 7 winning seasons in 23 years since Free Agency. Why?
I’m not concerned at ALL with Al’s successes of 30 years ago.
If you guys want to argue about what happened 30 years ago, carry on. I’m interested in modern history.
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Well, if you want to talk about modern history, how about the modernest history, 2010? A running back drafted by Al Davis has as good a season as any RB in the NFL, leading the league in runs of 20+ yards and runs of 40+ yards. A DL put together by Al Davis was 2nd in the league in sacks.
THOSE numbers speak for themselves too.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Players Association boss DeMaurice Smith announced Wednesday that the players will under no circumstances agree to an 18-game NFL season.
It’s common knowledge that the players don’t want 18 games, but this is the first time Smith has said it so publicly and adamantly. According to SI’s Jim Trotter, an extended regular season is “off the negotiating table.” Said Smith, “18 games is not in the best interest of our players’ safety, so we’re not doing it.” We don’t want an 18-game season, either, but we also worry about the players overplaying their hand. They got a big leg up with Judge Doty’s $4 billion ruling on March 1, and now appear to be pushing most — if not all — of their demands to the max. We’d bet heavily against an agreement before Friday’s extension deadline.
Source: SI.com
March 10th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Davy Jones
30 years ago Al Davis was in his 50’s. He’s in his 80’s now and can’t walk or travel, or remember anybody’s name. That’s what I’m talking about.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Noticed you did NOT, in fact, support the contention that Al Davis hasn’t had any success since the merger. Correct me if I’m wrong . . .
March 10th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Sorry, Gotta run.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:57 am
The NFL wants to EXPAND and that’s what the $2billion credit is all about. That’s why there’s no progress in the CBA. Lockout, baby. When is Al getting involved?
March 10th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Davy Jones Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Noticed you did NOT, in fact, support the contention that Al Davis hasn’t had any success since the merger. Correct me if I’m wrong . .
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The AFL-NFL merger of 1970? Who gives a F’K?
March 10th, 2011 at 9:01 am
196.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Davy Jones
30 years ago Al Davis was in his 50’s. He’s in his 80’s now and can’t walk or travel, or remember anybody’s name. That’s what I’m talking about.
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Then who has been running the draft? Who has been running free agents? Who’s been running the show these past few years when those things have gone well?
When something goes wrong, you guys are pretty sure that Al Davis rules with an iron fist. And supposedly when things go right, someone takes ol’ iron fist and locks him in the closet? You guys can’t have it both ways.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:10 am
so much for all of that hype about Al being rigid and unable to change his philosophy. 3-4 or 4-3 doesnt really matter. Fit the scheme around your personnel, to force your personnel into a scheme. Lock down the corners and be solid up the gut on run defense. Very simple.
Huff played well at the end of last season but i still dont think he is that good. Im not sure if rod woodson can actually make him a better player. was that his ceiling playing single high? If he walks im fine with brown stepping in at single high. There will be a drop off because he doesnt have the experience that huff brings. however i think his ceiling is way higher than huff, & he has a knack for ball hawking, something huff doesnt provide. i believe in time a season or two he will be a very good single high safety.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Al Davis knows what he is doing. he is a risk taker, he doesnt play it safe, because he doesnt believe in percentage football. Sometimes it is a disastrous flame job, other times it is sheer silver & black glory.
I would rather have the guy that spends the money takes chances, and tries to put the biggest baddest group of bullies on the field, then the guy that takes the slow road to nowhere.
bottom line you win some you lose some, but it will be a story either way.
I hope Al davis lives another 90 years, there is nothing like him in sports today.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:20 am
173.”It appears that rookie Bruce Campbell will take over for Robert Gallery. Campbell was selected in the fourth round of the 2010 Draft by the Oakland Raiders (106th pick overall). He looks solid, and should do well in the running game.”
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See this is the reason bleacher reporet is ****.
This “article” is an opinion not based on facts.
The TRUTH is B.Campbell has only 18 games AT ANY LEVEL under his belt.
Until last year he’d NEVER played Guard right OR left AND the fact of the matter was he was a better pass blocker than run blocker. Its where he needed the MOST work.
To simply assume he’s going to be good in the run game or that he’s even going to start at RIGHT guard is a HUGE leap and proves why bleacher reports sucks hind teet.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:25 am
199.hassanusc Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:57 am
The NFL wants to EXPAND and that’s what the $2billion credit is all about. That’s why there’s no progress in the CBA. Lockout, baby. When is Al getting involved?
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The owners are full of ****
They are literally PARTNERS with the NFLPA and REFUSE to show them the books.
Why do the players need to see the books?
Because the owners want to take an EXTRA BILLION dollars right off the top before sharing “profits.”
THEY say they NEED too bu the truth is they want the players to take and 18% pay cut AND play 2 more games!
UFCK the greedy azz owners who cleared over 9 BILLION dollars last year!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:26 am
To reiterate. Bleacher report sucks and is inaccurate.
Owners are greedy pigs.
End transmission
March 10th, 2011 at 9:27 am
so we find out tomorrow if there will be football in 2011?
March 10th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Bleacher report sucks and is inaccurate
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/447417-no-chaz-schilens-johnnie-lee-higgins-has-earned-the-right-to-play
Are you sure ???
March 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Mistic, how do you know what Al Davis is thinking?
March 10th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Rockstar,
Can you please go ahead and predict a Miami win over the Lakers tonight?
Thanks….your Laker predictions have been consistently wrong the past 30 months or so.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Mistic, what do you know about player’s “ceilings”? Are you a scout? You know the same as the rest of us do, right? By watching the games? How do you know what any player’s “ceiling” is? What’s with the scout talk? You just watch games on t.v. like the rest of us.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
owners who cleared over 9 BILLION dollars last year!
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without owners there would be no teams, stadiums, coaches, scouts, GM’s or PLAYERS!
I could care less if all of the NFL players making $10-15 million per season were replaced by FA’s on the street or guys coming from the UFL & CFL willing to take the vet minimum…
the NFL would be just as exciting. Players would step up. Teams would gel. Playoffs would still consist of the best teams in the league. We now have a rookie cap in place. Screw all the prima donnas like Chad OchoCinco, Brandon Marshall & Randy Moss !!!
the owners SHOULD have all the power imo
March 10th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Davy Jones, what I said yesterday, about the merger, is that Al Davis has NOT built a successful team since it. Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden built his good NFL teams. Al Davis is not an NFL guy. Doesn’t know how to build a team to win in the NFL. Has always needed help doing it, from the start. Al built a solid AFL team from scratch, with his own players and ideas. But that’s the AFL, which no longer exists. With the merger, the Raiders joined the NFL, and Al Davis has needed help ever since. Fact.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Rockstar,
Can you please go ahead and predict a Miami win over the Lakers tonight?
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Lakers win by 2 after Kobe Bryant breaks the fifth metatarsal bone in his right foot and Shannon Brown sinks the game winner!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:38 am
BBL gents!!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Rockstar, Green Bay has a team, a stadium, coaches, scouts, a GM, and players, and, last I checked, a Super Bowl trophy…without an owner.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
214.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Rockstar,
Can you please go ahead and predict a Miami win over the Lakers tonight?
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Lakers win by 2 after Kobe Bryant breaks the fifth metatarsal bone in his right foot and Shannon Brown sinks the game winner!
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you just jinxed either Lebron or Wade…..
March 10th, 2011 at 9:42 am
RMR,
I know based on what I see, of course it merely an opinion, just so happens i am right a lot of the time.
Remember when you, jfb, bcz24 and a host of others said grads would start, and jc would be out of football? i argued the opposite. As i predicted Jc is now firmly entrenched as the starter, and dont look now but grads doesnt have a contract from any team, so he is OUT OF THE LEAGUE.
just remember this next time you question my ability to judge talent. Thanks for playing though.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:44 am
an oldie but goodie
# mistic1 Says:
October 25th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Some you need to call child protective services because my man Hu-Jack spanked that a$$ yesterday! There were so many raider fan impostors that have said hu-jack isnt a hood play caller. What will you do now that you have no ammo. the zone read option from the pistol formation was pure genius. The inside runs with reece, bubble screens, reverses, and yes as much as you hate it the deep vertical strike was in complete control. Did you see the pro set with bush and reece on the goal line? There was nothing vanilla about it. I only hope Hu-jack saved his receipt, now that he owns you fake bandwagon fans, i want him to trade you for actual supporters of this team. Like i told you from the start Hu-jack is the truth!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:44 am
You’re right a lot of the time, Mistic? Well let’s put that to the test. What’s your prediction for Raiders won/loss record next season?
March 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Bleacher Report is a free blog service, it’s not an accredited news agency. Anyone can start an account, and write their own articles, which look like articles from a news agency’s website. But, they’re not. It’s just a blog.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:55 am
rmr,
Its too early to talk about win loss next year. check back during pre season (if there is one)
March 10th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think I should write for bleacher report next year, it will send the impostor fans spinning.
wait til they get a load of Tha SupaVillain
March 10th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Is it too early to predict if the team will be better than .500? You can’t even make that call? Surely if you have any kind of confidence in Hue, Campbell and co. you could say with confidence that they’ll be better than .500. And, I said next “season”, be it 2010 or 2011. Had that covered. Thanks, though.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:59 am
You can write for bleacher report right now. It’s a free blog service, nothing more. It’s no different than google blogger. You can start one today. It’s harder than it seems. I’ve started a couple of blogs. It’s hard to keep up with it. I like commenting better.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:06 am
The Raiders will go 12-4 in 2011 (if we have a full season) on the back of a very strong front 7, a top 3 rushing attack, and a much improved passing game (assuming we get an above average vet wr).
And WIN THE AFC West, and Super Bowl XYZ
March 10th, 2011 at 10:08 am
I 2nd that
March 10th, 2011 at 10:19 am
213.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Davy Jones, what I said yesterday, about the merger, is that Al Davis has NOT built a successful team since it. Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden built his good NFL teams. Al Davis is not an NFL guy. Doesn’t know how to build a team to win in the NFL. Has always needed help doing it, from the start. Al built a solid AFL team from scratch, with his own players and ideas. But that’s the AFL, which no longer exists. With the merger, the Raiders joined the NFL, and Al Davis has needed help ever since. Fact.
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Opinion! Your opinion that Wolf, Gruden, and I’m assuming Bruce Allen deserve ALL of the credit for winning Raider teams post merger isn’t shared by the most strident professional raider critic. Even Tom Jackson or Dr. Z wouldn’t say that stuff.
Moreover, someone posted a quote from RON WOLF about how Davis overruled him when he wanted to draft someone other than Gene Upshaw, whose name I can’t remember because Wolf wanted to pick someone who busted.
So not even Ron Wolf believes what you believe about Al Davis and Ron Wolf. Your bias is showing, the MRBS detector is beeping.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:20 am
The Ron Wolf quote was yesterday, shall I dig it up and repost?
And yes, pre draft and FA it is way, way too soon to predict the Raiders’ record. I feel pretty good about .500, though.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Wow. You guys are so confident in this team you have to wait till September to even safely say they’ll go 8-8. What I’ve always found ironic about this blog…whenever I ask you guys to make a prediction, you seem to reveal yourselves to have about as much confidence in this team as I do. Weird. For all that talking up you guys do.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:29 am
226.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:06 am
The Raiders will go 12-4 in 2011 (if we have a full season) on the back of a very strong front 7, a top 3 rushing attack, and a much improved passing game (assuming we get an above average vet wr).
And WIN THE AFC West, and Super Bowl XYZ
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Sorry Roller Girl (mr) I can see the big pic with team. We are very good in many areas, and close in others.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:34 am
208. lmao! Good one!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:40 am
230.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Wow. You guys are so confident in this team you have to wait till September to even safely say they’ll go 8-8. What I’ve always found ironic about this blog…whenever I ask you guys to make a prediction, you seem to reveal yourselves to have about as much confidence in this team as I do. Weird. For all that talking up you guys do.
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And you’re so confident that you are ready to make one before FA? What if Al bags some great FAs? What if he pulls some slight of hand and trades into the 1st round?
I know how much pleasure it gives you to predict the demise of the Raiders, but making predictions before you even know what the team is going to look like isn’t NFL wisdom.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Not surprised the Republican rock star is all for the uber wealthy.
Do the math genius.
What do u suppose the percentage of $15 mill is out of $9 BILLION?
You’re an idiot.
Your solution is to slap some scabs in there for minimum wage because the PLAYERS are greedy?
WE built this f’ing League and to see it priced out of our range is utter BS. It ain’t the players building $1.5 billion dollar monuments to greed bub.
Its greedy azz pigs ruining our counry our jobs and even out past times. Oh yeah, and brain washed jerks like yourselve who blindly support their insatiable greed
March 10th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Davy, .500 as an over/under? Is that too risque at this point? You guys are the ones talking about how great we are, and you can’t even say at this point if the team will be .500? .500? (Allen Iverson mode). .500? Dude, we’re talking .500. .500.
Come on dawg. How much confidence can you really have in Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell if you can’t flat out predict with sheer confidence right now that the Raiders are at least a .500 team next season? .500. .500!!!
Because I can tell you with sheer confidence, right now, they won’t be a .500 team.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Good Ole, don’t tell Rockstar that the Green Bay Packers just fielded a team, and won a Super Bowl, with no owner. It would completely sour his comfortable delusion that corporate owners in suits and ties created everything good in this country.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Elite:
Ownership… Al Davis
Run Blocking
Rushing
Pass Rush
Punting (field position)
X-Factor… J. Ford, M. Reece
KO return
RB depth
D-line depth
Long snapping
FG holding
Very good:
Hue Jackson
O Coordinator
Passing Defense
FG
Red zone Offense
Passing game to Backs, and Tight Ends.
Secondary Defense
KO return
KO coverage
PR coverage
Red zone D
D-coordinator
coaching staff (as a unit)
Average:
Pass blocking
Passing Offense
Punt return
Below Average:
QB
WR (as a unit)
O-line depth
March 10th, 2011 at 10:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
without owners there would be no teams, stadiums, coaches, scouts, GM’s or PLAYERS!
I could care less if all of the NFL players making $10-15 million per season were replaced by FA’s on the street or guys coming from the UFL & CFL willing to take the vet minimum…
the NFL would be just as exciting. Players would step up. Teams would gel. Playoffs would still consist of the best teams in the league. We now have a rookie cap in place. Screw all the prima donnas like Chad OchoCinco, Brandon Marshall & Randy Moss !!!
the owners SHOULD have all the power imo
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That’s because people like you can’t stand to see Black Men making more money than “Real Americans” like yourself, will sniff in your whole lifetime, or the lifetimes of your progeny, right?
March 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Oh and below average Rush Defense.
This should improve greatly with the development of Houston, ShoNasty, McPain, and an upgrade @ WOLB (groves was not very good against the rush)
March 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
It’s so fitting that Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year. For kicks, NFLPA president DeMaurice Smith should refuse to resume discussions until the owners of the Super Bowl champions are present.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:56 am
202.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 9:10 am
so much for all of that hype about Al being rigid and unable to change his philosophy. 3-4 or 4-3 doesnt really matter. Fit the scheme around your personnel, to force your personnel into a scheme. Lock down the corners and be solid up the gut on run defense. Very simple.
Huff played well at the end of last season but i still dont think he is that good. Im not sure if rod woodson can actually make him a better player. was that his ceiling playing single high? If he walks im fine with brown stepping in at single high. There will be a drop off because he doesnt have the experience that huff brings. however i think his ceiling is way higher than huff, & he has a knack for ball hawking, something huff doesnt provide. i believe in time a season or two he will be a very good single high safety.
^^^^^^^
Brown is not ready to be a single high safety.
Huff needs to stay….PERIOD!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I root for the NFLPA.
There the ones putting their bodies and heads on the line for these greedy owners.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:58 am
240.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
It’s so fitting that Green Bay won the Super Bowl this year. For kicks, NFLPA president DeMaurice Smith should refuse to resume discussions until the owners of the Super Bowl champions are present.
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Looks like Roller Girl found another dead horse to beat!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Single high safety. Is that like “rover”? We should run a two TE wishbone, too, with Rudy and Bud in the slot.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:59 am
235.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Davy, .500 as an over/under? Is that too risque at this point? You guys are the ones talking about how great we are, and you can’t even say at this point if the team will be .500? .500? (Allen Iverson mode). .500? Dude, we’re talking .500. .500.
Come on dawg. How much confidence can you really have in Al Davis/Hue Jackson/Jason Campbell if you can’t flat out predict with sheer confidence right now that the Raiders are at least a .500 team next season? .500. .500!!!
Because I can tell you with sheer confidence, right now, they won’t be a .500 team.
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I’m pretty sure they’ll be .500, they have the roster back that went .500 in 2010. That good enough for ya? I want to see what other players they get, I want to see the schedule, where the road games are, where the bye is.
It’s becoming clear to me that actual play in the NFL comes second to hating Al Davis to you, so here’s a little 101 for you: schedle, FA, and the draft are three things that can significantly effect a team’s season.
Did you want to hear that quote from Ron Wolf? You can either look at it now or the next time you post about him and Al . . .
March 10th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Raiders need to add a DT/NT type like Phil Taylor or Kendrick Ellis IF they can.
Taylor maybe around in Round 2, but I would pick Marcus Cannon or Steve Wisnewski over him in Round 2.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:01 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Elite:
Ownership… Al Davis
Run Blocking
Rushing
Pass Rush
Punting (field position)
X-Factor… J. Ford, M. Reece
KO return
RB depth
D-line depth
Long snapping
FG holding
Very good:
Hue Jackson
O Coordinator
Passing Defense
FG
Red zone Offense
Passing game to Backs, and Tight Ends.
Secondary Defense
KO return
KO coverage
PR coverage
Red zone D
D-coordinator
coaching staff (as a unit)
Average:
Pass blocking
Passing Offense
Punt return
Below Average:
QB
WR (as a unit)
O-line depth
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I’m with you, with small exceptions… I’m terrified about our Pass Defense/Secondary for 2011 at the moment. And I would consider JC Average rather than Below Average
March 10th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Anyone read David Zirin’s recent book about sports owners? Their level of looting government treasuries is right up there with Wall Street. People like Rockstar talk about the owners being the financial backbone of sports. When it comes to NFL, NBA, and MLB, it’s really the tax payers footing the bill.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am
I hope old man Al doesn’t have a brainfart ego trip and start trying to make every pick in this years draft like he did during the whole DHB draft debacle.
He needs to just let the scouts and coaches get together to make the picks like he let them do last year.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am
DAVY,,,
YOU’RE ‘PRETTY SURE’ THEY’LL BE .500? ARE YOU SERIOUS? AFTER ALL OF THIS TALKING UP?
Davy, if you can’t say, for sure, positively, this will be a .500 football team next season, you can’t have that much faith in them. It could only mean that despite all of your sanctimonious “real fan” positive talk, you really don’t have much more confidence in this team than I do. What else could it mean, Davy? I’m certainly not predicting they do better than .500. And, pretty much, neither are you. As far as you’ll go is, “I’m pretty sure”, like you’re “pretty sure” a bus will show up at 730, but you can’t say for certain. You have no confidence in this team, DAvy. You know they’re a wreck, just like I do. You’re just playing this, “I’m a real fan” game.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:06 am
http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/64/MPW-32088
Staring mr as Roller Girl.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:07 am
I would imagine Davis is more involved in the 1st, 2nd round picks (Ego Considerations), with the Scouts having more input in the later rounds.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:07 am
247.RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:01 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Elite:
Ownership… Al Davis
Run Blocking
Rushing
Pass Rush
Punting (field position)
X-Factor… J. Ford, M. Reece
KO return
RB depth
D-line depth
Long snapping
FG holding
Very good:
Hue Jackson
O Coordinator
Passing Defense
FG
Red zone Offense
Passing game to Backs, and Tight Ends.
Secondary Defense
KO return
KO coverage
PR coverage
Red zone D
D-coordinator
coaching staff (as a unit)
Average:
Pass blocking
Passing Offense
Punt return
Below Average:
QB
WR (as a unit)
O-line depth
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I’m with you, with small exceptions… I’m terrified about our Pass Defense/Secondary for 2011 at the moment. And I would consider JC Average rather than Below Average
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Yeah, the second half of the season he was average… almost.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Well, according to Hue, Davis isn’t involved at all. But he welcomes his input, in case he wants to get involved! What a great system we have going.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Who will be the D-line Vet Al signs this year?
Seems he always grabs one in FA. Sometimes waiting tell we play a pre-season game or two. I guess to see how the run D looks
March 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I would imagine Davis is more involved in the 1st, 2nd round picks (Ego Considerations), with the Scouts having more input in the later rounds.
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It didn’t appear like that last year, it almost seemed like the opposite.
1-MLB, 2-DT, 3-LT
Davis Picks: 4th-B. Campbell (Combine Freak), 4th-Ford, Fastest guy in draft, 5th-W. McFadden, Corner.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Guess Al’s “heavily involved” with being available to Hue for input, but only if he needs it. Just trying to decipher the statements that are on record. LOL.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:23 am
# bcz24 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:29 am
neilb Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:23 am
The easy answer to a 18 game season is more bye weeks.
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The players dont want it, and the fans dont want it. Owners should just drop it.
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why the fkk wouldnt the fans have a 18gmae season..
March 10th, 2011 at 11:24 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
It didn’t appear like that last year, it almost seemed like the opposite.
1-MLB, 2-DT, 3-LT
Davis Picks: 4th-B. Campbell (Combine Freak), 4th-Ford, Fastest guy in draft, 5th-W. McFadden, Corner.
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Maybe after 7 straight years of 11 losses or more, he was available to reason from someone. However, look at the history.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/draft.htm
March 10th, 2011 at 11:27 am
248, I did. There needs to be incorruptable oversight on all these greedy azz baz turds. They won’t stop till they ruin life for everyone with less than $100 million
March 10th, 2011 at 11:28 am
That’s because people like you can’t stand to see Black Men making more money than “Real Americans” like yourself, will sniff in your whole lifetime, or the lifetimes of your progeny, right?
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Kell,
are all NFL players african american? no!
are all prisoners african american? no!
I assume you’re talking about the MAJORITY
I wouldn’t care if the owners were colored and the players where as white as your father n law
March 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am
258, wird. its all about sustaining unreasonable short term growth a the xpense of the long term league.
Typical republican raids.
Lies cheat steal and then leave the mess for others.
disgusting
March 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am
261. agreed. thats a reach kk
March 10th, 2011 at 11:32 am
It didn’t appear like that last year, it almost seemed like the opposite.
1-MLB, 2-DT, 3-LT
Davis Picks: 4th-B. Campbell (Combine Freak), 4th-Ford, Fastest guy in draft, 5th-W. McFadden, Corner.
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Maybe after 7 straight years of 11 losses or more, he was available to reason from someone. However, look at the history.
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No, I agree with you. I was just pointing out last year offered up some hope for the future. B/c the offseason, before the draft is usually the best time to be a Raider fan! Sounds like you could use a glass of Kool-Aid?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:33 am
WE built this f’ing League and to see it priced out of our range is utter BS
When it comes to NFL, NBA, and MLB, it’s really the tax payers footing the bill
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Ole & MR,
so as casual fans you think that we’re responsible for making the decision that players should be paid more and owners should accept less?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:33 am
RaiderRockstar
Chad Ochocinco has already made more money than the whole line of Podunk RaiderRockstars past & present.
Thoughts?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:38 am
18 game season, I think the players would be okay with it, should they increase the roster from 53 to 55 and increase the actived players for a game from 45+1 to 50, increased retired/health benefits benefits, and eliminated preseason all-together.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Gulp, I agree with RMR about the greedy owners. It appears to me that the owners are insulated against traditional risks associated with most business ventures. (Anti-Trust exclusions, Salary Cap [Socialism] and public money) I believe that players appear to have more risks in playing football than the owners have.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Well, it seems they’ve agreed on a Rookie salary cap. I think they will reach agreement soon
March 10th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Kell,
Ben Roethlisberger has already made more money than the whole line of KoolKells past & present.
Thoughts?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Kell,
Ben Roethlisberger has already made more money than the whole line of KoolKells past & present.
Thoughts?
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Kool, this is America, baby!
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
owners shouldn’t give any more money to the players … these guys are playing a GAME for a living. probably working from August thru Feb making more money than teachers, nurses, doctors, mechanics and farmers (people that actually contribute to society)
the game wouldn’t lose any flavor with less talented players. If anything, it gives other guys a chance! Player max should be like 900k for a 5 year vet & perennial Pro Bowler regardless if it’s Peyton Manning or Nnamdi Asomugha
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Correct me if I am wrong but if we lose Gallery, Asomugha, Huff, (all first rounders) and Howard this year then we should get at least 3 end of 3rd round compensatory picks in 2012 Draft and probably a 4th round compensatory pick for Howard since he was originally a 2nd rounder. Remember compensatory picks are not available for trades.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Correct me if I am wrong but if we lose Gallery, Asomugha, Huff, (all first rounders) and Howard this year then we should get at least 3 end of 3rd round compensatory picks in 2012 Draft and probably a 4th round compensatory pick for Howard since he was originally a 2nd rounder. Remember compensatory picks are not available for trades.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I really hope they get their acts together and play football, but my two big things is that there shouldn’t be an 18 game season, and the owners ABSOLUTELY should not have to “open the books” to their employees.
It is of no business to the players what Al Davis, Jerry Jones, Glazer and any of these other owners do with their money, and what they want to pay themselves.
They can buy a soccer team, run the organization into the ground, pay John Herrera millions of dollars, or blow it all gambling.
That’s America.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
owners shouldn’t give any more money to the players … these guys are playing a GAME for a living. probably working from August thru Feb making more money than teachers, nurses, doctors, mechanics and farmers (people that actually contribute to society)
the game wouldn’t lose any flavor with less talented players. If anything, it gives other guys a chance! Player max should be like 900k for a 5 year vet & perennial Pro Bowler regardless if it’s Peyton Manning or Nnamdi Asomugha
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Do you propose a cap on earnings for other parts of society, communist?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I really hope they get their acts together and play football, but my two big things is that there shouldn’t be an 18 game season, and the owners ABSOLUTELY should not have to “open the books” to their employees.
It is of no business to the players what Al Davis, Jerry Jones, Glazer and any of these other owners do with their money, and what they want to pay themselves.
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They absolutely should be forced to open their books, when they’re asking for a Billion dollars in cuts because of “alleged losses”
March 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Do you propose a cap on earnings for other parts of society, communist?
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yeah, ghetto realtors make about as much as pawn brokers
thoughts?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
It’s funny, the neo-fascists never complain about Tax-Payer money for Owners to build stadiums.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Do you propose a cap on earnings for other parts of society, communist?
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yeah, ghetto realtors make about as much as pawn brokers
thoughts?
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March 10th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Tax-Payer money for Owners to build stadiums.
***
MR mentioned the Green Bay Packers. How does that figure in to your mumbling?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
It’s funny, the neo-fascists never complain about Tax-Payer money for Owners to build stadiums.
***
MR mentioned the Green Bay Packers. How does that figure in to your mumbling?
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March 10th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
I have a hunch Jordan Cameron TE USC will be a high draft pick for the Raiders.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
I agree just fire baby, Al and other owners own the NFL, it is their money, books; I also agree with the players it is their lives and if they want to be around with children and grandchildren at 50-80 years old then they should stand pat and only play 16 games.
let’s give the owners an increase from 1 billion to 1.3 billion for increased costs and salaries for non-player personnel; keep at 16 games, reduce to two exhibition games [to reduce costs as well as potential injuries, thereby reducing even more costs], and play some football.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Kell,
some astute blogger checked into your business about a year ago and came up with the stats that you barely came to the office and sold 1 house in the last 3 years
yet you’re always in here bragging about how much money you make and how much traveling you do …
either your wife is the breadwinner or you guys realistically pull in less than 60k annually, which is middle class
March 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I’m in favor of an 18 game season.
Easy enough to do. Simply convert two of the ‘meaningless’ pre-season games to regular season status. Don’t think this would significantly endanger the starting players, although that’s certainly debatable and a valid concern. Adding another bye week and expanding rosters could help alleviate this concern.
Can’t get enough NFL and Raider football.
Even with JaJason at QB.
JaJason sucks.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
The Neo-Fascists are all gung-ho about Crony Capalitism, but they want to put a cap on Football salaries????????????
March 10th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
BBL fellas!
March 10th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Kell,
some astute blogger checked into your business about a year ago and came up with the stats that you barely came to the office and sold 1 house in the last 3 years
yet you’re always in here bragging about how much money you make and how much traveling you do …
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Can you post a link?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
The city of Oakland should do something like what the “Arizona Sports and Tourism Authority” did.
The got a bunch of people with money together, put on the pitch to the community, formed some semi-governmental corporation and proposed the bill to fund around 70% of the University of Phoenix Stadium area, and the voters approved it.
Boom, a few years later, you have a state of the art, multi-purpose facility, as well as a trendy bar/restaurant area all around the Stadium. College football championships, Super Bowls, local youth soccer games and just about anything else imaginable, out in the middle of the desert in Glendale, AZ.
The city of Oakland and the Bay Area should be ashamed that super Red-Neck Maricopa county is running circles around them stadium wise.
Than again, being saddled with Al Davis isn’t a dream scenario for a municipality either.
Raider On
March 10th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Oakland is now paying 25 million per year on the Bond they issued to remodel the Stadium in 95.
Immediately after their return, Davis promptly sued the City for 1 Billion Dollars.
Nobody will do business with Al Davis. As long as he is alive the Raiders will play in the Oakland Coliseum, as is.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
@Rockstar
I agree with your comments that they are playing a game, they are entertainers.
But at the same time should movie stars be paid millions of dollars to make a movie or a TV show? It seems at least the players sacrifice more in health issues than TV, Film actors.
@Just Fire Baby
Salary Cap? They put a ceiling how much players can make, taking away the tradional market forces that determine the wage the players’ earn, that is UN-AMERICAN. The owners are waging a war in the forum of public opinion. The Ravens’ owner commented that some of the owners are making less money than some NFL linebackers, BS!
Yes, I think the Salary cap is good for the league. If the owners and players determine that they should have “Salary Cap” based on revenue sharing then players should just trust the owners and not ask to see the books?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:28 am
I wouldn’t care if the owners were colored
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We wouldn’t know that until the majority of owners were, as you put it, “colored”, now, would we?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Kell,
Ben Roethlisberger has already made more money than the whole line of KoolKells past & present.
Thoughts?
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I never heard Kell complain about how much the players make, black or white.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
LOL….there wasn’t even a salary-cap last year.
I’m all for a rookie wage scale, because rookie salaries continued to go up a certain percentage a year, and that started rising faster than veteran salaries. We were about 5 years away from some #1 overall QB getting 75 million dollars.
The NBA has a salary cap and a salary bottom, and you can go over, but you have to pay a luxury tax to do so.
I think that would work perfectly in the NFL. Snyder and Jones would just piss it away anyways, and Al Davis can use him some more Jerry Jones money.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
owners shouldn’t give any more money to the players … these guys are playing a GAME for a living. probably working from August thru Feb making more money than teachers, nurses, doctors, mechanics and farmers (people that actually contribute to society)
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Good point! So, I assume you’re siding with Wisconsin’s public sector employees?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I really hope they get their acts together and play football,
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The owners don’t play football, so it’s clear as day who you’re addressing.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
JFB
Yeah, if Bill Bidwell can get a stadium built, and Al Davis can’t………. what does that tell ya?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Nobody is saying the owners have to show the books. The union just said that they will not allow the owners to use loss in profit as an excuse until they prove it, by showing the books. Absolutely, the owners have the right to keep their earnings private, but on the same token, the union has every right to tell them to pound it until they prove that they’re going broke.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
The city of Oakland and the Bay Area should be ashamed that super Red-Neck Maricopa county is running circles around them stadium wise.
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Of course any day now some nut like Jared Loughner will probably sneak a gun into that stadium and start shooting minority players. I don’t think this is any time in American history to emulate Arizona, no matter what accomplishments they might have.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Judge Doty of MN has already ruled that the Owners cannot use the TV Money during a lockout.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I think that would work perfectly in the NFL. Snyder and Jones would just piss it away anyways, and Al Davis can use him some more Jerry Jones money.
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Level the playing field, huh? I see you read some Marx in between your partying nights at Chico.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Al should strike a deal to move the Raids to Las Vegas.
Get a consortium of casinos to ante up to build a mega-stadium and surrounding area. Luxury boxes with slots and video poker and in-game real-time wagering.
The revenues derived from 8 sold out home games, the profits derived from increased room bookings, gaming wins, food, beverage and entertainment expenditures should make this a no-brainer.
Heck, even a small tax on the lap dances at the strip clubs would get the stadium paid off in about 5 minutes.
Vegas and the Raids are made for each other.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Aren’t casinos losing money, too? Haven’t some closed down? What makes you think Vegas is a good town to take a struggling sports team?
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Again, it doesn’t matter to me if there is a salary-cap, no salary-cap, revenue sharing (although no revenue sharing could negatively affect the Raiders),the funding of the pension, and everything else.
There is no way these guys should have to play two more games a year, and the owners have always been greedy billionaires, always will be, and I don’t think we should start to villify them now. Greedy bastards make things happen.
Such hostility between both sides these days on all these negotations, not just in football but all other areas. These people treat it like it is life or death these negotations.
Just go in, bang it out, go down swinging, and if you don’t quite win the negotations, you go get them next time in a few years. But you got to keep the band playing and not miss work.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Again, with the ‘wealthy owners brought us light’ theory. Vegas, what “greedy bastards” built the 2010 NFL world champions?
March 10th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Just go in, bang it out, go down swinging, and if you don’t quite win the negotations, you go get them next time in a few years. But you got to keep the band playing and not miss work.
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My gawd, somebody call the metaphor police on this guy…
March 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
If casino profits are down, there’s one sure way to get them up.
Bring the big event or some reason for people to come to town and spend money.
That’s why the biggest fights are in Vegas.
The NFL is a huge attraction. The Vegas locals could probably support an NFL team, but even if they couldn’t, it’s almost a sure thing the tourists would pick up any slack. Raider fans and NFL fans in general would plan excursions to Vegas centered around a weekend of NFL football, gambling, food, booze and entertainment.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Greedy bastards make things happen.
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Spoken like a true crooked Republican.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Boxing’s losing money, too. MMA is slowly eating professional boxing’s lunch. A struggling NFL team moving to Vegas today, and relying on tourism, in this economy? I don’t think so.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
If Al Davis wants to be ” Coach Davis” then it’s fair game to criticize Davis as a coach…
… I give ” Coach Davis ” all the credit he’s due for his 70’s and 80’s Raiders…but anyother Coach would have been fired longago for his coaching, drafting and Free agent signings during the last decade…I wish Hue Jackson well, but the jurys out on how well he’s gonna headcoach for Al Davis..I hope it worksout for Jackson but coaching for ” Coach Davis” is like going boating on the Titanic this past decade…
March 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
35.RaiderfanNY Says:
March 9th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Paying big money to Routt and Eugene and bringing back Bresnahan as coordinator shows why we will never win.
Big Al would rather do things his way and lose than adapt and possibly win.
Despite having a lot of young talent, the Raiders will be brought down by a patchwork offensive line, a sub-standard secondary, a poor QB and Big Al’s high-school defense — which makes game-planning as simple as possible for opposed QBs and coaches.
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Yeah, some people on here do get it.
Dirty Varmint, only you and a handful of posters to this blog consider Davis “Elite” ownership anymore. He’s not even remotely respected anymore by the rest of the league.
Gotta laugh, though, at your inclusion of “FG Holding” under “Elite” status. Does any team really suck at this? Just curious.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
The only bastards, greedy or otherwise, I’ve seen make things happen were these ones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sQhTVz5IjQ
March 10th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
311.fingers Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
If Al Davis wants to be ” Coach Davis” then it’s fair game to criticize Davis as a coach…
… I give ” Coach Davis ” all the credit he’s due for his 70’s and 80’s Raiders…but anyother Coach would have been fired longago for his coaching, drafting and Free agent signings during the last decade…I wish Hue Jackson well, but the jurys out on how well he’s gonna headcoach for Al Davis..I hope it worksout for Jackson but coaching for ” Coach Davis” is like going boating on the Titanic this past decade…
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Coach Davis
Defensive Coordinator Davis
General Manager Davis
CEO Davis
Personnel Director Davis
Contract Administrator Davis
In the real world, wearing any of these titles, Davis would have been toast-s–sent into early retirement–years ago.
No one in the real world can indefinitely live off of past accomplishments.
Those who try to frequently become pathetic, semi-tragic figures.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
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March 10th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Not since our dipsh!t pres advised people not to vacation in Vegas. Way to help drag down the economy Brownie!
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Boxing’s losing money, too. MMA is slowly eating professional boxing’s lunch. A struggling NFL team moving to Vegas today, and relying on tourism, in this economy? I don’t think so.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
#315 is a moron.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
After 2 years of libtard hope & change, yes even casinos are feeling the 0b@ma economic pain.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Aren’t casinos losing money, too? Haven’t some closed down? What makes you think Vegas is a good town to take a struggling sports team?
March 10th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
MB, The President told people to stop going to Vegas, and they stopped going? Wow. That’s a leader. Who’s your daddy?
March 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Cash for caulkers should have created billions of jobs, what happened?
lol
March 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Mistabrown
Still not feeling the recovery yet, eh? You have any stocks or a 401k or anything?
March 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Recovery?
LMFAO
March 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
I really dont think the lakers can beat the celtics this time. The celtics have big time seasoned beef, (veteran bigs), and jeff green. green can play kobe & odom, plus he can score and strecth the floor. Ainge and rivers pulled off the move of the decade
March 10th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
“lol”???
You’re happy about the state of affairs in this country, MB? Are you rooting for America to fail just because you voted for the president’s opposition? You’re not a real American. You’re pure scum.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
MB wakes up in the morning, turns on his t.v., and prays there’s some sort of a catastrophe, just so he can say “I told you so” to people who voted for the President, because he’s bitter, having voted for McCain. That’s the truth, isn’t it, you un-American scum piece of s***? You’re a coward, MB. You’re NOT an American.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I trust Mr. Becker will take a dim view of calling our president “brownie”, now that my email has alerted him to the inappropriate nature of Mistabrown’s political comments.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
That last Republican administration sure did a wonderful job on the economy didn’t they…
Thanks to them we get to use words like ” recovery ” and ” Bailouts”….
March 10th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
His “Brownie” comment is just typical race baiting. It’s wrong too, for several reasons. But what’s more disturbing is the fact that he’s rejoicing in America’s problems right now, cheering them along, using acronyms like “lol” when describing them. I think that’s quite revealing of his psyche. He’s enjoying our nation’s problems. He’s hoping for more. He wakes up every day and just prays there’s a catastrophe when he hits the power button on his t.v. remote. What a sick, tiny, soulless little hater. He’s no American, that’s for sure.
March 10th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
it sure is nice reading the hateful posts about our president instead of writing them (which I did from 2000-2008)
March 10th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
666, I don’t recall you, or any other Bush hater here, laughing about problems Americans were facing between 2000-2008. Most of us were victims of his negligence, greed, and blood thirst. MB is clearly enjoying what’s going on this country right now, because it serves as a catalyst to criticize the president. We criticized Bush for his character, and scolded him for what he did to this country. We didn’t take joy in it.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
The funny thing is that he will win again in 2012 and we will have to listen to Brown eye and Mysticthestupidvillian complain for another 4 years!
March 10th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
MR I said I was writing hateful posts about our administration not basking in the negligence, greed, and blood thirst.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I laughed when W choked on that pretzel and when his Pa puked on the Japanese prime minister. Must be a bad mutation on the Bush esophageal chromosome. Among others…
March 10th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
The owners are full of ****
They are literally PARTNERS with the NFLPA and REFUSE to show them the books.
Why do the players need to see the books?
Because the owners want to take an EXTRA BILLION dollars right off the top before sharing “profits.”
THEY say they NEED too bu the truth is they want the players to take and 18% pay cut AND play 2 more games!
UFCK the greedy azz owners who cleared over 9 BILLION dollars last year!
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The NFL needs to finance new stadiums. It’s about the math. Football in LA, new stadiums in Oakland and SF and SD and Minnesota. It’s about the credit.
http://www.footballphds.com/2011/03/03/cba-update-from-washington-dc/
We’ll get a NEW stadium in Oakland with a CBA that favors the owners. Otherwise, we’re stuck with what we already got.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
666, that was my point, that you didn’t take joy in the problems this country had. Unlike MB, who’s clearly taking joy in America’s problems today.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
What Bush does to himself with a pretzel is fair game, but there’s nothing funny about what he did to the country, because we’re still paying for it. The current president’s entire legacy will be reversing the damage made by Bush.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
315.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
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March 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
When Bush Sr puked on the Japanese Prime Minister’s shoes, then fell out of his chair, was some funny schit.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Later guys. MB, have the news on right now. No real catastrophes today. Some protests, but not any real blood shed. Sorry. Maybe tomorrow.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
250.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am
DAVY,,,
YOU’RE ‘PRETTY SURE’ THEY’LL BE .500? ARE YOU SERIOUS? AFTER ALL OF THIS TALKING UP?
Davy, if you can’t say, for sure, positively, this will be a .500 football team next season, you can’t have that much faith in them. It could only mean that despite all of your sanctimonious “real fan” positive talk, you really don’t have much more confidence in this team than I do. What else could it mean, Davy? I’m certainly not predicting they do better than .500. And, pretty much, neither are you. As far as you’ll go is, “I’m pretty sure”, like you’re “pretty sure” a bus will show up at 730, but you can’t say for certain. You have no confidence in this team, DAvy. You know they’re a wreck, just like I do. You’re just playing this, “I’m a real fan” game.
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Please. No horse better will bet before seeing the horse on the day of the race. You’re just trying to bait me and it won’t work. How about this: if there were no draft and all free agents were to stay on their 2010 teams, yes they absolutely go .500. Sh*t, I’ll say 9-7, maybe 10-6.
And I have plenty more confidence than you do. I just don’t want to make a bet until I have all the cards in my hand. Stay away from Vegas, RMR, or you won’t have a home or a computer to b*tch about Al Davis on.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
March 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Where is Raider O now that Tressel is outed as a cheat?
March 10th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
My 26yr old Nephew calls me a ” libtard”…. He’s lives with his parents when he’s not in Rehab…
March 10th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
And you call me sanctimonious for my “real fan” talk?
Here’s the dictionary definition of “fan”
fan2
n fan [fӕn]
an enthusiastic admirer of a sport, hobby or well-known person as in: I’m a great fan of his; football fans; (also adjective )
So do some admiring of the Raiders, show some enthusiasm for the Raiders, or don’t get upset when people tell you that you aren’t a Raiders fan.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Did Boller get 3rd string money? Cuz I sure hope he isn’t our backup QB. I’d rather even have Charlie Frye over Boller.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Dakota Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Did Boller get 3rd string money? Cuz I sure hope he isn’t our backup QB. I’d rather even have Charlie Frye over Boller.
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I suspect that if Frye’s wrist checks out OK he too will be in the QB line-up next season.
March 10th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
The funny thing is that he will win again in 2012 and we will have to listen to Brown eye and Mysticthestupidvillian complain for another 4 years!
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how did I get in this? i havent offered any political opinions in here. But i your take on my name is very funny
March 10th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Campbell fry boller, im good with that. As long as that horrible muppet armed gradkowski is out of town. i have seen better arms on mortgage rates
March 10th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
just doing all I can to be smart azz
March 10th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
winning!
March 10th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Lmao !!! Misticthestupidvillain?!?!?!?!? Thats fugged up bra
March 10th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
I wonder if Charlie Sheen will still be doing those Hanes commercials with MJ?
Maybe sheen can use a machete to turn one of MJ’s bacon free undershirts into a V-neck?
March 10th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Not so sure about Fry…I keep seeing those Int’s he threw aginst the Browns in 09…. Wouldn’t Boller be # 2?.. Not really thrilled about him either.. ( Jacksonville game)…. Sure he was cold coming off the bench but thats what backups do…
March 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Yeah. I am on a drug. It’s called Charlie Sheen. It’s not available because if you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body.
March 10th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
fingers, boller and frye are terrible as starters. but as back ups they provide value because they have starting experience. They can get you through a game or two in case of injury. They wont make as many mistakes as a rookie qb with no live nfl game reps. In terms of back up depth how many teams have two back ups that have so many games logged as a starter?
March 10th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
The only true liability this team had at qb last year is now out of the nfl. look for him to be 3rd string in the ufl or the arena league next year.
March 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I’d rather Boller be the backup than Frye. Frye reminds me of Gradkowski. Boller seems stronger.
March 10th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Frye was a cable favorite. Cable sucked and almost all of his hand picked pets sucked along with him.
Good riddance grads , carlisle, your time has expired.
Im super excited to see the new power scheme and power oline, blocking for our rocket armed qb, and game changing backs.
March 10th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I would love to see martez wilson in a raider cap on draft day, he is a beast on the outside. i think he and romac would be an gruesome twosome
March 10th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
259.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:24 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
It didn’t appear like that last year, it almost seemed like the opposite.
1-MLB, 2-DT, 3-LT
Davis Picks: 4th-B. Campbell (Combine Freak), 4th-Ford, Fastest guy in draft, 5th-W. McFadden, Corner.
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Maybe after 7 straight years of 11 losses or more, he was available to reason from someone. However, look at the history.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/draft.htm
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The heat was on the old man last year big time…..fans put up a billboard telling him to hire a freakin GM for cryin out loud! LOL
As I have said before….if the old man would have been 100% in control of every pick in last years draft, then he would have picked Bruce Campbell with that 1st pick instead of McClain and then he would have picked Jacboby Ford with that 2nd Round pick instead of Houston.
Ya know it!
March 10th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
but he said “i did the draft” at his infamous presser. You think he is lying?
March 10th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Romac was coming on strong at the end of the season, i cant wait to see what this kid does this year. he is fun to watch. he did what kirk never could do, make plays in the hole and behind the los.
March 10th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I think it’s hard for Rookie MLB’s & FS’s because the Slick ole QB is always f’ing with them mentally. It’s takes experience for those guys to match wits with QB’s like Brady, Manning etc.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
by Bill Williamson
One of the interesting aspects of this improving team is that it really doesn’t have a ton of pressing needs. It has young players penciled in through the lineup on both sides of the ball. The only question is whether these young players are ready.
But the Raiders do have some needs, starting on the offensive line. They could have multiple openings in the starting lineup. I’d think the Raiders would seriously consider using the No. 48 pick — Oakland’s first-round pick was sent to New England for Richard Seymour in 2009 — on an offensive lineman, probably a guard.
Oakland may need to take a cornerback early if Nnamdi Asomugha leaves in free agency. Other areas that may need to be upgraded because of free agency include safety and tight end.
Oakland also could look for a developmental quarterback in the middle rounds and could consider a linebacker and receiver at some point in the draft.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Cable played his favorites….. Of course he did…. And Hue Jackson will play his favorites…. And ” coach Davis” wanted to play his hand picked #1 draft picked Bust of a Qb…..like Cable or not , he was only there because Al Davis hired him ..is Hue Jackson a better HC?… Probley… But he’s yet to coach a game as a HC, so the jurys out..
March 10th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
361.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
but he said “i did the draft” at his infamous presser. You think he is lying?
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Yeah right.
All the old man did was give the final okay for the coaches and scouts to come together when it came to making the picks.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
81 years old, can’t walk, can’t travel, can’t remember anybody’s name.
We really have no fully functioning Owner or General Manager.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Just like Slow Pain, I’m a Raider 4 Life!
March 10th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
367.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
81 years old, can’t walk, can’t travel, can’t remember anybody’s name.
We really have no fully functioning Owner or General Manager.
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Yeah, then why is he still the owner, gm, and d-cord?
March 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Because he’s a egotistical old man living in the past.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Fingers, of course hu jack 7 and al have their favorites too. the difference is they can actually play, cables favorites got him canned, and will be out of football this year.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
370.KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Because he’s a egotistical old man living in the past.
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You would think Al could be happy settling into his twi-light years having competent people all around him. He certainly has the network and access to them. He could just sit back and enjoy the ride so to speak, instead of working so hard and putting in all those long hours a gm has to do. Its not good for his health putting in 16-18 hr days. Instead, hes got the lap dog mouth piece and Amy, who I wish would fill the seats a little more.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
The Godfather turned it over to Michael, Al needs to do the same thing.
I’d love to see him mentoring a GM here.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
It would be nice for Davis to be out in front of the inevitable transition to new management. That way, at least he could groom his own people.
The way he’s going, he’s going to have a stroke or something, be dead, and strangers will come in and pick the new management.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Dont do it Al, keep doing what you always have done. The lead pirate, pillaging and crushing the naysayers.
We dont need a gm, Al is in total control. he and hujack city have us rolling into 2011 as a team to watch.
The day Al steps down is the day football in dies in oakland
March 10th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
The day Al steps down is the day football in dies in oakland
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I don’t doubt that at all. With Al Davis dead, the Raiders become a very attractive property.
March 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Yeah, with Al Davis dead, the Raiders get a new stadium somewhere.
March 10th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
according to Sports Illustrated the poorest NFL owner is Pittsburgh’s Dan Rooney, who owns only a portion of the Steelers and has a net worth of $150 million
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wow… that means old Al has still got bank.
March 10th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
so much for the so called small market myths.
March 10th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
By the way 150 million and poor should never be in the same sentence
March 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I heard ryan mallet on dan patrick, he sounded like a dumb ass. no way i want this dude anywhere near my beloved silver and black. he is a disaster, and is going to implode at the first hint of adversity. ryan leaf 2.1
March 10th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I heard ryan mallet on dan patrick, he sounded like a dumb ass. no way i want this dude anywhere near my beloved silver and black. he is a disaster, and is going to implode at the first hint of adversity. ryan leaf 2.1
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No way. I heard him on Sirius yesterday with Kirwan and Ryan. Sounds like ge gets the game to me. Son of a coach. And I like the way he takes no schitt from the media. Strikes me as a real confident guy who can fire it anyplace he wants. Doubt he’s there when we pick, but I’d take him and be happy.
March 10th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
As long as the old man Al is running the show, they will NOT sell out the Coliseum on a consistent basis.
Old man Al has pissed too many fans and former season ticket holders including former corporate season ticket the last 8 years.
The only possible remedy, is making the playoffs, him leaving, or getting a new stadium.
We all know he aint leaving until he passes and who knows how long until they get a new stadium or make the playoffs.
March 10th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I heard ryan mallet on dan patrick, he sounded like a dumb ass. no way i want this dude anywhere near my beloved silver and black. he is a disaster, and is going to implode at the first hint of adversity. ryan leaf 2.1
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I thought JaMarcus was Ryan Leaf 2.1
March 10th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Did anybody read the other day where Phil Jackson told the Miami Heat, that NBA stands for “No Boys Allowed”.
Man, he’s the best in the business in getting in people’s head’s.
March 10th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Did anybody read the other day where Phil Jackson told the Miami Heat, that NBA stands for “No Boys Allowed”.
Man, he’s the best in the business in getting in people’s head’s.
………….no AL is best at getting in peoples head ,he is in your head ,he consumes your whole life ,you eat,drink and dream of al davis
March 10th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Let’s gooooooo! Big time quarterfinals game in big 12 mizzou vs tx am….revenge time! lil cuzin bout to hit em!
March 10th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Phatcable
Would you like me to shut up about Mr Davis?
March 10th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
At $13.5 billion, Paul Allen is NFL’s richest owner
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 10, 2011, 5:07 PM EST
APForbes is out with its annual list of the richest people in the world, and Seahawks owner Paul Allen checks in at No. 37, making him the NFL’s richest owner, with a net worth of $13.5 billion.
Allen, who founded Microsoft with his pal Bill Gates in 1975, is more than $10 billion richer than the second-richest owner, Stephen Ross of the Dolphins, who checks in at $3.4 billion.
Some NFL players have objected to the league’s current labor relationships being described as “millionaires vs. billionaires,” as plenty of NFL players aren’t millionaires. But it’s also worth noting that a lot of NFL owners aren’t billionaires; according to Sports Illustrated the poorest NFL owner is Pittsburgh’s Dan Rooney, who owns only a portion of the Steelers and has a net worth of $150 million.
Which still makes him richer than every NFL player.
March 10th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Phatcable
Would you like me to shut up about Mr Davis?
………no…
March 10th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
and its coach davis too you!
March 10th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
The wealth dynamic is really something else. Both of these groups will figure it out unless they want to go the way of baseball.
Baseball was the #1 sport in the USA and after the strike and cancellation of World Series…baseball fell. They had to get the steroids inspired home run race to get the young people back into it.
Football shouldn’t be so arrogant to think it can’t fall from is place too. Especially with baseball playoffs, college football and basketball.
If they strike/lockout…they could find themselves taking 15 years to get back to the spot they are right now.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
We just might lose ZackMiller after all, I think he wants to go elsewhere. I think I would like to have Zack and Bush back as well as Nnamdi if we could get hose 3 back I’d be very happy.
March 10th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Mistic1 This kid Martez Wilson I’ve heard a lot about but haven’t seen him. What kind of player is he?
March 10th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
It kind of makes sense that a guy that has to pay 53 players plus an entire coaching and training staff would have to be richer than the player himself. #389
March 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Enough said.
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fingers Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
My 26yr old Nephew calls me a ” libtard”
March 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
tj,
your just full of contraversy.
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# priesttj Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
We just might lose ZackMiller after all, I think he wants to go elsewhere. I think I would like to have Zack and Bush back as well as Nnamdi if we could get hose 3 back I’d be very happy.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
What you have with the negotiations in the NFL, is Rich owners squabbling with Rich players, neither one wanting to give an inch. Can you believe this in todays climate? Take 2 BILLION dollars and reduce ticket prices, or the GAME will go down the drain in a nutshell. How stupid can these “negotiators” be??? 10$ beers and 8$ hot dogs are the beginning of the problems in todays world of sporting events. Most of these punks don’t even command 1/10th of what their getting paid. When the fans say, no, I won’t pay this, and don’t show up, finally these two factions will get a clue!
March 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
The minute they go on a lockout and going to block them out, no more NFLN no more gear not a dime of my money on anything that has to do directly with the NFL.
The fact that they can’t lock themselves in a room and get this fixed with all that money we’re trying to give them makes me sick. So as far as I’m concerned they wont get my attention the minute they have a lockout.
March 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Priest, I’m in!
March 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
bet!
March 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
tj,
32 millionaire owners are shaking in their boots.
lmao
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# priesttj Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
The minute they go on a lockout and going to block them out, no more NFLN no more gear not a dime of my money on anything that has to do directly with the NFL.
The fact that they can’t lock themselves in a room and get this fixed with all that money we’re trying to give them makes me sick. So as far as I’m concerned they wont get my attention the minute they have a lockout.
March 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
i dont think all the owners are millionaires some are probably living paycheck too paycheck the poor guys!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Mista, how long are the fans going to bend over and take it? You must have other insights, please enlighten us, you are the Sheen prophetic guru!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
the poor owners they need a tax break!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Phat, they could be dealing away a new Stadium, and how much is too much for playing a game? Get Real!
March 10th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
They make choices and we can make choices, it’s the only thing I have control over is my time and my money where they are concerned. I choose to block them out…….you can do as you please………it’s all about choices.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
When NFL owners read the opposing defense, they see an obvious soft spot in the line: the free-spending, high-living ways of more than 20 percent of the league’s players.
Though a lockout has been threatened for years — and despite an apparent rise in the number of football stars safeguarding their millions — roughly 380 of the NFL’s near 1,700 players still live paycheck to paycheck, according to financial experts familiar with the league.
“Therein lies the leverage these owners have to potentially use as an excuse to force the Players Association … to sneeze first,” said Reggie Wilkes, a 10-year NFL linebacker and now a financial adviser who preaches “lifestyle management” to more than 20 NFL clients. “If (union chief) DeMaurice Smith doesn’t have guys saving their money, it’s going to be difficult for them to withstand a potential lockout.”
Many players are “going to be hurting,” agreed New York Jets linebacker Bart Scott, 30, a Wilkes client. Scott, who stands to earn, or lose, $6 million next season, is frugal by NFL standards, driving his 2002 Lincoln Navigator “into the ground” and purchasing a $700,000 home — relatively modest by football star standards. Scott said some “young guys” in his locker room “see what the older guys have, and they’re not there yet. They’re trying to catch up and keep up with the Joneses” by buying $2 million mansions.
There is a wide variation in NFL players’ salaries. The average player salary for the 2009-10 season using USA Today’s numbers is $1,870,998. But the number isn’t particularly meaningful since superstars can earn far more and second- or third-stringers far less. The league rookie minimum salary is $320,000.
Barring a late agreement between the union and owners, players could be locked out of NFL facilities as soon as Friday.
To bolster solidarity — and, as Scott says, to “protect the players from themselves” — the NFL Players Association has been urging its members to stockpile cash for two years. The association also withheld union dues and royalty checks to build an emergency fund that will pay members about $60,000 each over the course of next season if their game checks stop coming, said players association spokesman George Atallah.
many players have, indeed, heeded the union’s warnings by hiring money managers, sticking to precise monthly budgets, living with roommates, and postponing big buys (new homes) — or even small ones (new neckties), said several NFL players and their accountants.
PFT: Eagles player says broke teammate asked for $100,000 loan
Perhaps it’s the fear of going months without pay, or maybe it’s the notoriously high bankruptcy rate among retired NFL players — estimated at nearly 80 percent by Sports Illustrated — but “athletes are really starting to buckle down a lot more than they did 10 years ago,” said Steve Piascik, president of Piascik & Associates, a Richmond, Va.-based tax adviser to about 65 NFL, NBA and Major League Baseball players.
“They are taking more responsibility,” said Piascik, who added 12 pro clients — most from the NFL — in just the past six weeks. “The rookies, especially, are more aware of the situation and they’re trying to protect themselves. Boom, they see (ex-NFL players) going through financial scandals and they’re going to make sure that doesn’t happen to them.”
Many NFL stars have made headlines because of their financial problems.
Luther Elliss, who earned $11.6 million with the Detroit Lions from 2000 to 2004, filed for bankruptcy in 2009 and has recently relied on friends and local churches to pay his bills. Raghib “Rocket” Ismail, who pulled in an estimated $18 million during a 10-year career, lost much of it through bad investments. Mark Brunell, now a New York Jets backup quarterback, filed for bankruptcy in June 2010 despite contracts that paid him $50 million during his career.
These high-profile cases are one reason for open concerns among some fiscally conservative players that their lavish-living teammates will become a weak link for a union that aims to hold out for gains in its collective bargaining agreement.
Piascik figures he spends “a good 25 percent” of his time steering pro clients away from too many flashy toys — “cars and jewelry” — and often from family and friends who press the players for gifts, loans or investments in risky ventures. Piascik said he willingly takes on the role of “the bad guy.”
If his players max out their planned budgets and ask Piascik for extra cash, he said his pat answer is: “No! No! My job is to make sure that when your career’s over, you’re financially set.” He even cut ties with one NFL rookie who insisted — against Piascik’s advice — on buying his mother a $2.1 million home.
“A lot of people say you can’t bring your money to the grave. But there’s also a point where you’ve got to be conservative and set your savings up,” said Sabby Piscitelli, a Cleveland Browns safety and one of Piascik’s clients. According to Fox Sports, Piscitelli earns about $770,000 per season. “I remember my grandpa always told me: ‘The first bill you always pay is your savings account.’ ”
Piscitelli, 27, recently sold one car and opted to wait at least a year to purchase a property in south Florida – moves made, in part, to prepare for the possible lockout.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
303.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Al should strike a deal to move the Raids to Las Vegas.
Get a consortium of casinos to ante up to build a mega-stadium and surrounding area. Luxury boxes with slots and video poker and in-game real-time wagering.
The revenues derived from 8 sold out home games, the profits derived from increased room bookings, gaming wins, food, beverage and entertainment expenditures should make this a no-brainer.
Heck, even a small tax on the lap dances at the strip clubs would get the stadium paid off in about 5 minutes.
Vegas and the Raids are made for each other.
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Yeah, why not. At least maybe the fans there would support the team.
Maybe it’s Al’s fault for moving the Raiders to LA in the first place and then coming back to a market that to this day despises the man.
If the fans want Al to keep the Raiders in Oakland then they better support the team with better than 22,000 season ticket holders or don’t blame him when they leave.
I’ve gotta believe that if it were feasable for the Raiders to move somewhere to a better situation that Al would’ve already moved.
I also have to believe that the Raiders could go to Des Moines Iowa and do better than 22,000 season ticket holders.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Shows over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6LJFHPaYQg
March 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
2010 The Raiders finally began playing with passion and determination, and finished undefeated in the division
March 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
I hope all the players go broke and destitute.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Raiders finish with 6-0 division record we are not losers anymore.
March 10th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Commitment to excellence during offseason – Revisited
Eleven men on a team at one time. Eleven men who supposedly have a commitment to excellence, according to the Al Davis motto for the Oakland Raiders.
This motto stirs thinking. A player can not have a commitment to excellence without having a personal pursuit of excellence in his own performance. In other words, an Oakland Raider is not really competing with another player. He is competing with a standard of excellence for himself.
The pursuit of excellence involves a process. A player attains a certain level of performance in one game. He then attempts to outperform his previous performance.
If each and every player uses this definition of “pursuit of excellence” and each one realizes that they must elevate their individual standard or criteria for excellence, then the entire team will perform better each time they get on the playing field.
The job is not to compete with the Pittsburgh Steelers. The job is for each player to exceed the performance he has had in previous games or seasons.
No doubt this type of thinking has already shown itself in the Oakland Raiders. Why? Several records of the past for the Oakland Raiders are now being exceeded by the present Oakland Raiders.
Now, the team is seeking to elevate the standard of performance using a criteria based on the team itself, and not on the opponent’s performance.
Functioning to a level so that potential matches execution for the individual players is the new way of thinking.
Here are words of wisdom, since each player has unique talents and physicality.
Here is a quote by Brian Harbour, in “Rising Above the Crowd.”
“Success means being the best. Excellence means being your best. Success, to many, means being better than everyone else. Excellence means being better tomorrow than you were yesterday. Success means exceeding the achievements of other people. Excellence means matching your practice with your potential.”
This writer believes that if each and every Oakland Raider embraces the new perspective of what it means to pursue excellence, more remarkable accomplishments will be made in 2011 and beyond.
Go Raiders! Show a true commitment to the Al Davis’ theme and make an aggressive and passionate pursuit of excellence as individual players and as team members.
Continue that commitment to excellence even during offseason!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Japan hit by 8.8 magnitude earthquake
Reports of major tsunami warning
March 10th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Las Vegas Raiders does have a sharp ring to it!
March 10th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
you think that’s what the son and daughter are thinking for their future?
March 10th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I wouldn’t wish ill on the players at all DJ after all they are the game, the owners are the league. The players assoc. hates the league because they see them as hypocrites and greedy suckers.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Raiders senior executive John Herrera said. Herrera said Gallery was seeking $8 million a year while Oakland was offering in the $2.5 million range. Gallery, 30, was the second overall pick in the 2004 draft, but struggled at left tackle and was eventually moved to left guard.” Where he played penalty free ball.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
That Japan earthquake was 8.9 with aftershocks that are similar. There is going to be considerable devastation.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
303.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Al should strike a deal to move the Raids to Las Vegas.
Get a consortium of casinos to ante up to build a mega-stadium and surrounding area. Luxury boxes with slots and video poker and in-game real-time wagering.
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Not going to happen.
There’s a reason why a big city like Vegas doesn’t have sports franchises. They don’t even give you many channels on tv in the rooms because they want you IN the casino.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
tsunami warning for hawaii and the west coast.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
there is another reason not too move to las vegas earthquakes stay in oakland where it is safe.
March 10th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
419.phatcable Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Raiders senior executive John Herrera said. Herrera said Gallery was seeking $8 million a year while Oakland was offering in the $2.5 million range. Gallery, 30, was the second overall pick in the 2004 draft, but struggled at left tackle and was eventually moved to left guard.” Where he played penalty free ball.
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Herrera’s an idiot. Gallery played well and was a considerable help to Veldheer. Last year we had the second best running team in the NFL.
Losing a starting guard like Gallery, who made $2.5 million and giving $2 million to Loper makes no sense.
That decision wasn’t based on common sense, it was based on Al getting even with Gallery for speaking up about Al’s decision to fire Cable and start all over again.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:02 am
Man, the SF earthquake of 1989 when the Bay Bridge collapse was 6.9.
Today’s 8.9 in Japan must be causing considerable death and destruction.
God bless Japan.
March 11th, 2011 at 4:50 am
yeah, I said this on the 9th.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=pfw-20110310_broncos_may_be_leaning_toward_drafting_a_tackle
Kind of a no brainer.
I said earlier I hope they don’t draft Dareus. I hope they take Fairley. He’s quick and can rush the passer but has work and consistency issues.
March 11th, 2011 at 4:52 am
So glad the NFLPA flat out REJECTED the 18 games season.
Up yours owners!
March 11th, 2011 at 5:03 am
Anyone else hear that D’Quan Bowers was red flagged by a doc at the combine for his knee?
He’s canceled his pro day and will maybe work out in early April.
I think some mocks with him going #1 to Carolina may have been premature…
March 11th, 2011 at 5:34 am
After reading my recent Spoorting News and listening to some other radio stuff, two QB’s really caught my attention.
Blaine Gabbert and Tyrod Taylor.
Now obviously the Raiders won’t be looking at Gabbert. However, this kid may be the best athlete at QB in the draft (at 15 years old he was receiving scholarship offers to play baseball at LSU, basketball scholarships to play throughout the Big 12, and of course was the #1 rated HS prospect in football at any position). He also has been training, with his parents money, with one of these professional QB quru’s since he was in high school as well. I’m beginning to think he will be really good, nobody payed attention to him because he played for the university of Podunk.
Tyrod Taylor was a joy to listen to on the SVP show the other day. When asked what QB’s he likes to watch, he really impressed with his answer. He said Drew Brees, but really went into detail about Brees’ ability to move the pocket to create throwing lanes (they are both the same size) how to move around with his eyes always down the field, and his anticipation of throwing windows. Plus he ran a 4.47 forty. I wouldn’t mind if the Raiders took a flyer on him in the 4th or 5th round, he seemed like a really, really sharp kid.
March 11th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Hasn’t Bowers had this knee thing going back to HS??
I think Denver will take either Fairley or Peterson, but I am 98% sure they will draft a player on the defensive side of the ball.
That D was pitiful last year.
March 11th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Not going to happen.
There’s a reason why a big city like Vegas doesn’t have sports franchises. They don’t even give you many channels on tv in the rooms because they want you IN the casino.
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I agree with your first take here, Vegas will never, IMO, have a pro sports team. First off, there isn’t the money there anymore (the Maloof’s are broke and will be filing bankruptcy soon), and all the leagues are very weary of the gambling angle (at the Maloof’s casino’s you can’t get NBA action).
However, not sure your last time to Vegas, but if you go to the Wynn, Bellagio, Venetian and any of the nicer casino’s, you got over 100 channels, tons of different sports channels, all kinds of asain and arabic stations and all that stuff. They want you to bring the kids, and lock them in the room with all the TV options.
Only station you don’t get though……the NFLN, lol.
March 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am
djohnnyg Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
I hope all the players go broke and destitute.
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Pretty harsh there.
If I said something like that, I would have a good 4-5 posters immediately jump on me and call me a racist, lol.
The players won’t be missing their normal checks until the preseason was supposed to start, so players are not budging for now.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
March 11th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Morning fellas. Hope all you west coasters are safe and dry.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Mornin
safe an dry an awaiting the 3 1/2. Foot tsunami eaves approaching our coast.
Mornin hwnrdr.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Tsunami’s………one thing I don’t have to worry about here in New Mexico.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Just talked to my family on Oahu…they said everything is fine so far…but they haven’t sounded the all clear as of yet! A couple parking lots and one of the canals is flooded, but nothing major! Prayers to those in Japan!
March 11th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Prayers go out to all in japan.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Morning Nation.
Thoughts and prayers goin out.
March 11th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Any of you Dodger fans watching any spring training games these days?
My cousin was doing the play-by-play again this week. One of these days when Vin retires, hopefully he can take his position and start making Vin Scully money
March 11th, 2011 at 6:58 am
Only sport I been watching is hockey… Sabres played a hell of a game last night, I was on my feet for the last 30 minutes of that game!
March 11th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Morgning Gents!
March 11th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Good morning, gents. Head for high ground out there in the bay today.
March 11th, 2011 at 7:07 am
whoah. 2 gents in a row.
March 11th, 2011 at 7:27 am
LOL…
March 11th, 2011 at 7:29 am
yeah, well im of course sorry for the Japs, but my focus is on my own private disaster… My Father’s Cancer have gone active again, and now is in the lungs and neck…
so, more or less, 2½ year healthy and then back into the fight : (
March 11th, 2011 at 7:59 am
446.La Milicia Negra Says:
March 11th, 2011 at 7:29 am
yeah, well im of course sorry for the Japs, but my focus is on my own private disaster… My Father’s Cancer have gone active again, and now is in the lungs and neck…
so, more or less, 2½ year healthy and then back into the fight : (
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La Milicia Negra, solo hay que mantener la fé y pedirle al Señor un poquito de su enorme misericordia.
Saludos y nuestras oraciones para tu Sr. padre.
March 11th, 2011 at 8:09 am
MEX_GHOST…
Gracias, desde el fondo de mi corazón, por sus amables palabras…
March 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am
LMN,
Sorry to hear about your dad. I wish him well in his battle.
I just went through a cancer scare of my own, but I just cleared my tests/biopsies and it turned out to be something other than lymphoma or leukemia. Still no clear diagnosis but I was glad to find out they had eliminated those two possibilities. I hope your dad will someday get that kind of news.
March 11th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Dakota..
thanks bro, and good luck with your own battle and lets hope for a positive diagnosis..
March 11th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Morning peoples!
TGIF
March 11th, 2011 at 9:09 am
The NFL owners are expected to make one final proposal to the union on Friday.
With pro-union Judge David Doty looming, the Players Association now appears to be in the driver’s seat. A deal remains highly unlikely unless the owners provide more detailed financial data to go with a near 50-50 split of revenue. If that doesn’t happen, the best we can hope for is a third extension of the negotiating window. The union has until 5:00 p.m. to decertify.
Source: NFL.com
March 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
LMN, I wish your dad the best!
Godspeed to him sir.
March 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Sup DMAC!
March 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Wassup RRS!
March 11th, 2011 at 9:30 am
A deal remains highly unlikely unless the owners provide more detailed financial data to go with a near 50-50 split of revenue.
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I don’t see that happening!
If i’m Al Davis and I see that proposal I laugh my head off and whipe my backside with it …
March 11th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Brandon Marshall tied with Wes Welker, Steve Johnson, and Pierre Garcon for the most drops in the NFL (13) last season.
Opposing defenses intercepted seven passes intended for Marshall, tied for fifth-most in the NFL. He also ranked just 93rd out of 110 in yards after catch, dropping from 5.0 in 2009 to 2.7 in 2010. Fantasy leaguers can give Marshall a pass for the late-season hamstring injury and Chad Henne’s red-zone ineptitude, but it’s clear that his own play slipped as well.
Related: Wes Welker, Steve Johnson, Pierre Garcon
Source: Palm Beach Post
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No DHB?
No Murph?
I don’t mind the occasional drop, as long as you make plays. (Perfect example)Jordy Nelson had a few drops in the SB, but definitely came through w/ some tough catches as well.
March 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
LMN,
sorry to hear about your dad bro. I lost my mom to breast cancer 2 years ago. stay strong man.
keep it positive while you’re around him and be as supportive as you can be. I hope he’s a fighter and hospice doesn’t have to get involved.
Don’t know where your family stands on faith, prayer & healing, but now would be a good time to think about those things. I’m not trying to turn this into a spiritual discussion – just my opinion
March 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am
No DHB?
No Murph?
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DMAC,
the soph’s had a few drops & fumbles last year – so did Jacoby Ford
it just hurts worse when you’re the Raiders because:
#1 how often do you get a good play call?
#2 how often are the WR’s open?
#3 how often does the O-Line give our QB time to throw an accurate ball?
March 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
BBL gentzzz!
March 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
I agree. DHB would have to actually get open and have the ball thrown in his direction to achieve 13 drops. I wonder what the ratio of drops/times targeted is. How many TDs per drop did Welker score vs. DHB?
March 11th, 2011 at 10:16 am
If the players decertify and seek litigation, what exactly will they sue the league for?
March 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Apparently, it will be an antitrust lawsuit. However, after reading up on antitrust I’m still confused as to how the NFLPA will claim the NFL violated these laws.
March 11th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Over/under on Dwight Howard rebounds tonight?
I seriously think if I set the line I would put it at 21.
March 11th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Vegas,
I’m going under at aprox. 18 rebounds
March 11th, 2011 at 10:49 am
MB, the president made this earthquake happen, right?
March 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
MB, no earthquakes, tsunamis, or any seismic activity when Bush was president. Suddenly prez O takes over, and now this. Right?
March 11th, 2011 at 10:53 am
When MB woke up this morning, he was hoping it was a terrorist attack. When he saw that it was a natural disaster, he puked a little in his mouth. Just disgusted him. Thought he had his big catastrophe he was hoping for, that he could pin on the president. Now his plan is to find a way to blame this earthquake on the president. Watch. Wait till he gets here.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Come on, MB. You’re out there. How did the president cause this earthquake? How did he make that tsunami wave get so big? Come on, you know you’ve got a theory. You’re probably hitting all the right wing talking point sites as I type this, trying to put something together.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:26 am
393.priesttj Says:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
We just might lose ZackMiller after all, I think he wants to go elsewhere. I think I would like to have Zack and Bush back as well as Nnamdi if we could get hose 3 back I’d be very happy.
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Zach’s a fine TE, but I don’t think another team will give up a 1st and a 3rd for him. And if so, that’s a pretty good “trade” for the Raiders.
Nnamdi won’t be signing until he gets a look at just what other teams are willing to throw at him.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:28 am
That goes for the rest of you tea baggers, too. The blame O for everything sect. All of you. You know who you are. VegasRaider, RaiderRockStar. Come on. Let’s hear it. How could O have prevented this earthquake? Come on, invoke him. You know you guys want to. You have to blame him for everything. It’s a religion to you guys.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Ever feel like you’re being ignored?
March 11th, 2011 at 11:38 am
# The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
LMN, I wish your dad the best!
Godspeed to him sir.
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thanks mate..
March 11th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Just Win Baby, how did the president start this quake? Come one, you can piece something together. You have to blame the president for this. You’re a patriot. It’s your duty.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:43 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
LMN,
sorry to hear about your dad bro. I lost my mom to breast cancer 2 years ago. stay strong man.
keep it positive while you’re around him and be as supportive as you can be. I hope he’s a fighter and hospice doesn’t have to get involved.
Don’t know where your family stands on faith, prayer & healing, but now would be a good time to think about those things. I’m not trying to turn this into a spiritual discussion – just my opinion
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Yeah, my mum died 6 years ago of stomach-cancer, and my father had colon-cancer 2½ years ago, so i thought i had done my share in the cancer-statistics, but one more round in the ring i guess.
Thanks for your kind words..
March 11th, 2011 at 11:46 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
March 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Don’t know where your family stands on faith, prayer & healing, but now would be a good time to think about those things. I’m not trying to turn this into a spiritual discussion – just my opinion
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Right wing hack scumbag. Show some respect for crying out loud.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Bible thumpers should have their tongues ripped out, and Rockstar’s comment at 9:35 is the reason why. Someone has a relative diagnosed with cancer, and rockstar tells him that he’ll go to hell if he doesn’t convert to HIS religion. It doesn’t get lower, folks. It just doesn’t get lower.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Can we invoke some faith, prayer and healing that Soup will learn how to operate a game-winning, 2 minute drive this year?
March 11th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Redneck southerners like Rockstar are to Christianity what Al Qaeda is to Islam.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
The OLB/DE I would like to see the Raiders also target with that Round 2 pick is Brooks Reed from Zona
My top 3 players the Raiders should target in Round 2:
1.RT/G Marcus Cannon
2.C/G Stefan Wisnewski
3.OLB/DE Brooks Reed
March 11th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I just looked at Walter Football’s top OLB prospects, and a bunch of these guys were listed as 235 and under.
I don’t want anything to do with those types of LB’s.
Seems like Clay Matthews had a pretty pedestrian pro-day, is still predicted to be in the round 3-5 range, and read a couple reports that he is ABSOLUTELY an ILB, and will not play on the outside in the NFL (not athletic enough).
For my liking, the LB I liked the most was that McCarthy kid from the U. Great instincts, but he is also listed as an ILB.
I look at these OLB’s, and I think to myself, “I watched these teams play (The OSU, Miss ST, UCLA, Wash, etc..) and don’t remember any wow moments from any OLB’s.”
March 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
My wife scored a 34. I’m avoiding it.
http://walterfootball.com/draftwonderlic.php
March 11th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Wonderlic, 40 times, bench press….the winning teams are just drafting football players.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Green Bay gets a SB and a Gov that takes on thug unions that are a extension of the Dem party. Those 14 Dems that abandoned their jobs should be fired without pay. GB is on the upswing!
March 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
MB, can you believe what the president did, with this earthquake? Let’s start a movement to impeach him! Starting earthquakes and tsunamis is where I draw the line.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Its only a matter of time before some libtard environmentalist blames that quake/tsunami on global warming. We can then create a govt prog costing billions to save the earth from quakes.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Brooks Reed would be a great pick for the Raiders in Round 2.
He is a BEAST at 6′3, 264. Can play any of the OLB positions and rush the passer, cover or play in space and play against the run and defend and out his hand down as a nickel rusher to get to the QB also. He is Athletic and versatile and has good football instincts and a high motor.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Pres O cant create anything he’s a derelict buffoon, nice try!
March 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Yeah, Wisconsin’s on the upswing. That’s why riots are about to take place in Madison. All Governor Walker did was divide the state, for the benefit of big corporations. And with the recall coming, it will be him who gets fired with no pay. He’s done. If this governor got out of his car without his security detail, he’d be dead. That’s not progress.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
MB, you don’t blame the president for this quake? You blame him for everything else. You blame him for a financial crisis that started before he even won the election! There’s clearly nothing you don’t blame him for, so I would have to assume you’d blame him for this earthquake, too. It’s his fault, isn’t it? Didn’t he start the tsunami wave with his Kenyan superpowers?
March 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
GB has a GOV willing to balance a budget despite democrats and the unions (dem) standing in the way.
Big props to Walker and GB, enjoy that SB trophy and prosperity!
March 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
While the Green Bay Packers will certainly enjoy their success, Governor Walker and Wisconsin’s Republican senators are now an endangered species.
March 11th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Was just watching the NFL channel…
Labor talks not going well…
March 11th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
My wife scored a 34. I’m avoiding it.
http://walterfootball.com/draftwonderlic.php
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I got 17 of the 20 questions right, although I might have went about 30 seconds over the time limit.
Got the last one wrong (Lol), and got #17 and #18 wrong.
Nailed the math ones without pen, paper or a calculator.
17 = 42.5 wonderlic
I’m telling you, I use to protcor different types of wonderlic tests. To literally get a sub 10 score, you have to either not be bright enough to understand there is a time limit and just have to move on if you don’t know the answer, or you are answering questions wrong intentionally.
I think I could have got a 35 on a Wonderlic test when I was 12.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
BTW, I believe DHB got a 8 on his Wonderlic.
That is incredibly difficult to do. It actually may be more difficult to score an 8 on a Wonderlic than run a 4.3 forty.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
MR,
why do you keep bringing up the Green Bay Packers?
are you a fan, just because they won the Super Bowl?
weren’t you just saying yesterday that they are SB Champs because the fans own the team?
I swear you were giving GM Ron Wolf (1991-2001) all the credit for turning them into a juggernaut just yesterday!
Should the other 31 teams with owners just throw in the towel, because they can’t compete ???
March 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
The players union just decided to desolve…
March 11th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Kell “My wife scored a 34.”
reply:
JFB “I think I could have got a 35 on a Wonderlic test when I was 12″
LOL!
March 11th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Also, BTW.
You are supposed to multiple your correct answers by 2.5 .
If you somehow come up with 34 (not divisible by 2.5) than I think you failed the test.
Just an FYI
March 11th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Lol… Delayed desolving now…
March 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
When a receiver goes up to catch a ball and a free safety who can hit like a ton of bricks is approaching him, I’m definitely concerned about what that receiver’s wonderlic score is.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Cam Newton doesn’t make Mike Mayock’s Top 20
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Mayock must be racist, right Kell?
March 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I think Cam will go to the Niners if Gabbert is off the board (pretty sure AZ will grab him).
No way does Newton fall past Minny at #12, unless he just completely bombs the next 6 weeks.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Raiders to lower ticket prices
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 11, 2011, 3:20 PM EST
As the league tries to avoid incurring a dramatic fan backlash over a possible work stoppage, one team has already started to take steps to prevent losing ticket sales.
The Raiders announced Friday that they are lowering ticket prices for 3,700 seats, including 2,300 “cheap seats” that went from $40 to $25.
This has less to do with the lockout, of course, and more to do with Oakland’s 8-8 record last year and 5 or less wins the previous 7 seasons
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thoughts ???
March 11th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
$25 to go see an NFL game has to be the lowest in the league.
And where was this when I went to the games? I was paying $51 a ticket to sit at the 20 yard line of Mt. Davis for a few years.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, Wonderlic, Inc. claims a score of at least 10 points suggests a person is literate.[2] Furthermore, when the test was given to miscellaneous people of various professions, it was observed that the average participant scored a 24. Examples of scores from everyday professions
include:
Chemist – 31
Programmer – 29
Journalist – 26
Sales – 24
Bank teller – 22
Clerical worker – 21
Security guard – 17
Warehouse – 14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test
March 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
so the Heat thumped the Lakers again, eh?
no wonder this place is so quiet today!
March 11th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Winning will put fans in the seats…and dropping the price of seats can’t hurt
March 11th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Wonderlic Scores:
JFB – 35
Chemist – 31
Programmer – 29
Journalist – 26
Sales – 24
Bank teller – 22
Clerical worker – 21
Racist Realtor – 11
Cousin Humper – 10
March 11th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Sales- 24
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This overall score is clearly dragged down by the anchors of the sales industry, the dreaded realtor.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
lower prices in mt. davis = more fights.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
DHB scored an 8
Russell scored a 24
March 11th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
This is the beginning of the end of sports as we have known it for some time. With last nights developments people dying and natural disasters on the rise. We have billionaires fighting millionaires for free money. It smacks of a serious lack of understanding of where we are in the stream of time.
There are just way too many options for people do engage in for the NFL to make a mistake of these proportions. Fans everywhere will start to turn an unsympathetic eye to both parties and look at them as greedy petty and unconscious of the struggles that many are going through at this particular time.
The NFL is wringing the neck of the golden goose and the chance of reviving it is going to be a very difficult task. There is just way too much to worry about in real life to worry about the toy store of life.
People will start to put sports and all other ancillary activities in perspective and they will never again see it as they do now.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Dakota,
thanks for hopping on BSJ’s short bus yesterday!
it clearly was the Lakers demise last night
did Chris Bosh score the same amount of points as Kobe ???
bwahahahahahaha!
March 11th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Oh, that would be horrible, priest, this being the end of sports as we know it. Because pro sports has just been so great in America in recent years…
March 11th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
priest, you’ll still be a Raider fan and defending Al Davis even after the league is defunct.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
MR,
you’re the judge of who has class and who doesn’t?
hahahaha!
I’m pretty sure Sarah Pal1n’s taxidermist has more class than you do, and probably a higher IQ too
March 11th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Time for the baseball revival!!!!
This will also be one of the better years in recent memory for the NBA playoffs, IMO.
So the NFL better figure it out, because life at the top is never guaranteed.
March 11th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
MR,
LMN wasn’t offended.
I’m pretty excited that you were though …
whoop whoop!
March 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Providence fires coach Davis, OH this is a different coach davis thank god.
March 11th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Our coach davis cant be fired!
March 11th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Source: Free agency could start at midnight
Posted by Mike Florio on March 11, 2011, 6:31 PM EST
As the league scrambles to process the meaning of the union’s decision to decertify, a high-level source with one team tells PFT that the league is preparing for the possibility that free agency could begin soon.
As in at midnight.
Per the source, the league is bracing for the possibility of a ruling from Judge David Doty that would force the doors to remain open, compelling the league to allow player movement and trades as soon as 12:01 a.m. Saturday.
Thus, by tomorrow at this time, Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha could (key word . . . “could”) have a new team.
Though no one knows for sure whether that will happen, there’s a fear/belief that it could, and teams are preparing for the possibility.
Holy crap, this could get very interesting.
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