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Report: 2011 rules could be same as 2010

The Washington Post is reporting that if the NFL is forced to open its doors through the court system, the playing field would be the same as they were last season.

No salary cap and restricted free agency for four- and five-year veterans with non-guaranteed contracts and tender levels which vary according to the player’s perceived importance on the team.

The Raiders have already given first- and third-round tenders to tight end Zach Miller and running back Michael Bush, which would pay each man approximately $3.2 million for the 2011 season.

I’ll be away for a week on a company-mandated furlough.

Beat writer Steve Corkran will keep you updated on Raiders news . . .

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  • Kirk

    Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line,….

    Oh, and we need a quarterback too.

  • HairyBush

    noteasilyimpressed Says:
    March 13th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
    Some news about who the Raiders have looked at:

    http://85percentsports.com/2011/03/09/nfl-teams-draft-interests
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    It has to be a smoke screen, considering there is not one CB on the list.

  • HairyBush

    I’s Peter King says he’d put his money on Tiki Barber being in training camp with either the Bucs, Raiders, Patriots or Jets
    ———————–
    I heard he is a locker room cancer, no thanx to an old man who hasn’t played football in years. He will be with his bro next year if anyone signs him.

  • HairyBush

    Travis Goethel is the mix for the Raiders’ weak-side linebacker job, according to beat writer Jerry McDonald.
    Goethel actually won the job out of camp last year according to McDonald, but early-season back surgery sidelined him. The 2010 sixth-rounder will have a hard time beating out Quentin Groves without a full offseason to impress coaches.

  • Nnamdi21
  • Nnamdi21

    53. Word. No thanks.

  • Nnamdi21

    49. Cj’s always had health issues. can’t count on him to be the season long guy.

    Walter’s going to have to step up. Can’t see Aso and Huff going.

    Davis does what he wants but Aso’s a prize conversion find for him and he loves that plus he’s a rock on and off the field.

    Huff’s never really panned and beware any guy that posts career numbers his contract year. BUT he is finally starting to play the single high well and thats not an easy job.

    Branch is a liability against the pass and Mitchell’s still too green. He played FS at Ohio about a third of time but not sure he’s ready to go full time at this level.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    With Dmac/Bush, why would anybody think the Raiders would be interested in Tiki Barber?

    This must be a shot at Al Davis, by King.

  • dickv

    I remember Tiki leaving NY and trashing the team and the players the next year as an analyst… it is worth noting that the Ginats stumbled out the gate and struggled because Spagnolo’s defense was new… then the giants won the superbowl and i havent heard from tiki since.

  • raidertay

    Furloughs suck. Ive had two years of furloughs. Hopefully they will “smooth” that week like my job so that it doesnt all hit at one time.

    Jerry you are the best Raider reporter hands down. I say lets furlough this site for a week to show Oakland Tribune how much we need Jerry.

  • Dakota

    Raiders Players Could Hold Informal Workouts During Lockout

    By Chuck Carroll»Football News Now Staff Writer» March 13, 2011 – 11:46 pm

    A group of Oakland Raiders players aren’t going to let the NFL lockout prevent them from preparing for the 2011 season. At least that’s how Jon Condo sees it.

    Condo spoke with CSN Bay Area at this weekend’s Commitment To Excellence Dinner where teammate Rock Cartwright was being honored.

    The long snapper “envisions” a number of Raiders players getting together later this month to hold informal workouts.

    Players from a host of teams around the league are planning the same approach. Included in that bunch are the Raiders AFC West bretheren Kansas City Chiefs.
    ++++++++++++

    I can see it now….Condo, Lechler and Jano getting together at a local high school field and practicing kicks and snaps…..with Jano playing a drinking game all by himself (gets a shot of jagermeister every time he makes a FG)….and, at the end of the day, Lechler pulls a hammy trying to carry Jano off the field.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Branch and Mitchell playing the safety spots? Who is going to be the rover FS?

    None of those two can cover.

    ***

    DK007,

    Chuck B & Rod Woodson will figure that out!

    Al Davis traded up to take Tyvon Branch in the 2008 draft and made him a full-time starter at SS to replace big money FA Gibril Wilson in 2009 when as a rookie he had only played 8 games (starting none) and finished the season on I.R. for shoulder surgery

    Mitchell has drawn comparisons to Ronnie Lott & Jack Tatum since the Raiders drafted him. When the staff wanted to cut him in favor of Stevie Brown last year, it was Brown who got the axe (more than once) and Mitchell saw his time increase in the Big Nickel playing OLB or other 3 safety packages – 5 safety no CB defense? we won’t go there!

    Both are Al Davis favorites. Everybody thought Huff sucked at SS too, but last year he played like an All-Pro at FS and now everybody wants him back. Branch was a CB in college. I’m sure he has SOME coverage ability and when MM34 was asked which he could play better between FS & SS he replied “about the same”. Mitch wouldn’t be the only FS in the NFL who can hit like a mack truck!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Cj’s always had health issues. can’t count on him to be the season long guy.

    Walter’s going to have to step up.

    ***

    Nnamdi21,

    Walter Mac played in all of 4 games last year and made a whopping 5 tackles. He missed 12 games as a rookie last season!

    CJ37 has missed 9 games in 4 seasons with Oakland!

    Nnamdi Asomugha, by comparison, has only missed 4 games over the past 4 seasons …

    I still don’t think it’s fair to label CJ37 “injury prone”

    not many DB’s are going to win the IRON MAN award for durability, ya know?

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    I heard Lincoln Kennedy say on the radio a few weeks ago, that he thought Seabass kicked better when “inebriated” back in the day…

  • RaiderRockstar

    Huff’s never really panned and beware any guy that posts career numbers his contract year

    Branch is a liability against the pass and Mitchell’s still too green.

    ***

    nice work, debbie downer. so whats the solution?

    Hiram Eugene & Stevie Brown will compete at FS.
    Jerome Boyd & Thomas Howard will compete at SS.

    Yippee!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Roethlisberger is Cam’s “NFL model”

    ***

    LOL!

    Cam Netwon = BBB

    Black Big Ben. hide your daughters

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    66.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Roethlisberger is Cam’s “NFL model”

    ***

    LOL!

    Cam Netwon = BBB

    Black Big Ben. hide your daughters
    ——————————–
    I don’t think you need to worry, unless dude has no standards.

  • bcz24

    Uh oh. You called Cam black. You are a racist now.

  • Dakota

    Who is Cam? I thought it was Kim Newton?

  • Dakota

    An offseason turned upside down will continue to get odder.

    The NFL Players Association is putting into place a plan that would prevent each top college prospect from attending next month’s draft in New York, according to multiple league sources. The NFLPA already has contacted 17 top prospects that ordinarily would have received an invitation to attend the draft and informed them not to go.

    Thus, when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announces the name of the first player selected, the player will not walk on to the stage at Radio City Music Hall as has been the custom. And the player will not be there to do interviews with ESPN or NFL Network. The draft will go on, but not in the manner in which it has been conducted before.

    “As of right now, this is 100 percent happening,” said one source familiar with the Players Association’s thinking. “This is going down.”

    The Players Association even has gone so far as to consider placing the players on another competing network to do post-pick interviews, though no final decisions have been made. Another source said that, in this day and age, it’s possible that the top prospects also could appear on a social media network platform, only.

    “We plan to invite the 15-20 top prospects and their families to New York as we normally do for this once-in-a-lifetime experience. And, as always, it is the decision of the players and their families as to whether they attend,” league spokesman Greg Aiello said in response to the report.

    While the NFL has always paid the expenses for the invited players and their immediate family to attend the draft, the league said it would not pay players a fee in an attempt to have them present this year.

    Last Friday, the union decertified, meaning it declared itself out of the business of representing players. In exchange for giving up their rights under labor law, the players are able to take their chances in court under antitrust law.

    Although it no longer represents players, the NFLPA still exists “as a professional trade association with the mission of supporting the interests and rights of current and former professional football players,” it said after decertifying.

    Adam Schefter is ESPN’s NFL Insider. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

    ++++++++++++++

    Wow, rob these young men of the draft experience they had been dreaming of since they first picked up a football. Very classy. If this is the pettiness we can expect from either side, this thing might last into the 2011 season.

  • Davy Jones

    58.KoolKell Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 10:17 am
    With Dmac/Bush, why would anybody think the Raiders would be interested in Tiki Barber?

    This must be a shot at Al Davis, by King.

    ===================================================

    I agree. But there is the chance that Michael Bush will play elsewhere in 2011, despite the tender.

    Consider the Patriots- a lot of people prejecting them to draft Mark Inghram at 17th overall. If I were Robert Kraft, I might consider drafting for another position at 17 and giving up the picks for Bush, who IMHO is a better back.

    The Pats have multiple picks in the first, second, and third- they can afford it, and they need a real running back there.

  • raiderjhawk

    Davy, I think that the pats will lean a little more on Ben Jarvis Green Ellis next season, considering that he rushed 238 times for 1051 and 13 t.d.’s last season, I don’t know why they would give up multiple picks for Bush. BJGE is good, they can take a flyer on a young guy that will play behind him.

  • raiderjhawk

    Rock Chalk!

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    59.dickv Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 10:51 am
    I remember Tiki leaving NY and trashing the team and the players the next year as an analyst… it is worth noting that the Ginats stumbled out the gate and struggled because Spagnolo’s defense was new… then the giants won the superbowl and i havent heard from tiki since.
    ———————————-
    I remember that too. That was just flat out awesome when the Giants won it. Tiki had to know they did it cause he wasn’t there, but I’m sure he’d never admit that to his self.

  • dickv

    Tiki is embarrasing himself. It is hard to watch a man grovel around like he is. Dude needs to crawl back to his wife and for forgiveness. Go try to be a coach or something. I bet Ronde is shaking his head trying to understand what the hell he is doing.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo
  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell
  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    No doubt in my mind Coach Davis ever considered Tiki. The guy would be not good for the Raiders, and Coach knows this.

    But on the lighter side, some folks with a lot of money do and say stupid things, its all over the entertainment industry. Just got to blow it off.

  • dickv

    raiderjhawk Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Davy, I think that the pats will lean a little more on Ben Jarvis Green Ellis next season, considering that he rushed 238 times for 1051 and 13 t.d.’s last season, I don’t know why they would give up multiple picks for Bush. BJGE is good, they can take a flyer on a young guy that will play behind him.

    _____________________________________________

    Agreed. The Pats will get all the mileage from Ben Jarvis Green-ellis as they can. I don’t even think that Ole Miss got that much production out of that guy…

    I seriously doubth they will trade anything for micheal bush when he will be a Free agent soon enough. I am thinking a team like Detroit will take a flyer on a trade for Bush… they busted on Kevin smith and J Best is too small to carry the whole the load by himself. If I am detroit I would give my 2nd round pick for Bush if he would agree to a long term deal.

    That being said De angelo williams, and Mcgahee and Ahmad Bradshaw are all available which makes Bush a less valuable commodity…maybe making Bush a 3rd rd pick at best which may make Al Ride it out because he probably can get a 3rd rd compensatory pick 2012 or 2013 for bush as is.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell
  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    KK, Thats just plain nasty rude and disgusting. Do you have that image burned in your brain? There is a time in a mans life when he truly belives he’ll never turn 80, then there comes a time when a man hopes he lives to be 80. Coach Davis has done that.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    KK, I’m mad at you cause I can’t get that image out of my head. Thats just plain nasty of you to do that.

    Attn every one: do not open up KK’s nasty link. Its a photo shopped image to try and discredit Coach Davis.

  • hassanusc

    Any Doctors in the house to diagnose this?

    http://www.tiricosuave.com/2011/01/18/so-this-is-what-al-davis-looks-like-nowadays/

    ———

    Yep: that’s Shingles. Herpes zoster. Wow. Painful, especially if it’s on the face.

  • Davy Jones

    Davy, I think that the pats will lean a little more on Ben Jarvis Green Ellis next season, considering that he rushed 238 times for 1051 and 13 t.d.’s last season, I don’t know why they would give up multiple picks for Bush. BJGE is good, they can take a flyer on a young guy that will play behind him.

    =====================================================

    Decent production, but I think there is concern that BJGE isn’t the answer- the Ingram to the Pats at 17 speculation isn’t coming out of nowhere.

    You can have Ingram at 17, or Bush at 28 with a third thrown in. If you have a third to spare, isn’t that smarter?

  • Dakota

    84.Davy Jones Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Davy, I think that the pats will lean a little more on Ben Jarvis Green Ellis next season, considering that he rushed 238 times for 1051 and 13 t.d.’s last season, I don’t know why they would give up multiple picks for Bush. BJGE is good, they can take a flyer on a young guy that will play behind him.

    =====================================================

    Decent production, but I think there is concern that BJGE isn’t the answer- the Ingram to the Pats at 17 speculation isn’t coming out of nowhere.

    You can have Ingram at 17, or Bush at 28 with a third thrown in. If you have a third to spare, isn’t that smarter?
    +++++++++++++++++

    You can’t trade picks for players in this year’s draft.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    After reaching the Super Bowl in 2002, the Raider organization sharply took a nosedive. Since their last Super Bowl run, the Raiders have not had one winning season and may have drafted the number one bust in NFL history with JaMarcus Russell. According to Forbes, who releases a ranking of every NFL team’s worth on an annual basis, ranks the Raiders dead last out of 32 teams in terms of franchise worth and operating income (negative 5.7 million) in 2009. Needless to say, the Raiders have seen better days. Most experts attribute these recent failures to Al Davis. Davis is one of three current NFL owners that serve as his team’s General Manager (Jerry Jones and Mike Brown bring the other two) and at 81 years old, his eye for talent seems to have passed him by.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    In my final thoughts the Raiders organization has been known lately as the black hole where players and get lost in the shuffle and then re appear after they sign with another team. It seems if this team wants to compete and play again Al Davis needs to step down and let somebody else control the organization. I don’t think he will do this for the fact of he is a proud guy and still stuck in the 1970′s where he was a winner. The style of play back then is different and he will not adapt to what is happening in the NFL today. This is one of the main reasons why his teams have been losing. I wish the Raiders could win, but they will not until this happens.

    Clearly, over the past 10 years, Davis has gone from NFL great (he still is) to crazy old kook in the public’s eye due to his unwillingness to give up control of the team he built and evolve with the rest of the NFL. This is going cause his legacy to be remembered in two parts, pre-00′s success and post-00′s terrible decisions, instead of just being remembered as a man that helped turned the NFL into the biggest sport in America.

    http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/8/3/1602971/vince-mcmahon-al-davis-or-george

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    This was Big Al’s first press conference in 16 months, and the 81-year-old New Englander did not disappoint, fumbling and mumbling his way through the proceedings like an anesthetized goat. His near nine-minute spiel on the firing of head coach Tom Cable was so protracted and confused, so painstakingly puzzled, it was as if an old man let loose from the dementia ward of a 19th century sanatorium had wandered up to the podium..

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    But the real story, by leaps and bounds, was his physical appearance. Al Davis sat at the press table with a face that appeared to have been trapped in a bag of diseased cats since 1954. Brandishing a forehead ripe with knotty cysts, open sores and a bleeding gash hastily held to by a dime store Band-Aid, Davis was literally something out of a horror show.

  • meatheadraider

    Holmgren: We’ll offer ticket refunds, with interest
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 14, 2011, 2:46 PM EDT

    APBrowns President Mike Holmgren held a media session on Monday and tried to answer relatively normal questions despite the work stoppage.

    He talked about Colt McCoy’s development, his plans for pre-draft visits, and the other things executives usually talk about in March. Oh yeah, and the work stoppage:

    “It’s an interesting time to say the least. It’s our feeling and hope that we will play football games,” Holmgren said via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer.

    The Browns are planning on alternatives. They said they will fully refund tickets, with interest, for any missed games. The Lions have taken a similar step in adding the “with interest” to their ticket refund offers.

    The Jets, on the other hand, will not offer interest with ticket refunds. (The Jets will let their ticket buyers pay in installments, however. Or they can pay 50% now and 50% after the NFL schedule is released.)

    The impending lockout hasn’t hurt the Browns’ bottom line yet. Holmgren says the team’s season ticket sales are better now than at this time last year despite the lockout.

    Perhaps Colt McCoy has turned a few Browns fans into believers
    …………..al davis will give everyone double their money back…

  • meatheadraider

    some of the marks on ALS face are beauty marks!

  • Davy Jones

    “At 81 years old, his eye for talent seems to have passed him by.”

    Not what Mel Kiper says, and he’s not given to complimenting Al Davis. In order to agree with that statement, you’d have to ignore the 2010 draft and post 1st round draft picks for several years.

    Still, at least he gives Davis credit for pre-00′s success (Does a SB appearance in the 00′s count as success? LOL.) and especially for being “the man that helped turned the NFL into the biggest sport in America”.

    Some around here wouldn’t even do that.

  • Dakota

    zzzzzzzzzz

  • Davy Jones

    85.Dakota Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    You can’t trade picks for players in this year’s draft.

    ======================================================

    Referring to the compenstation for the tender that the Raiders put on him. I assume they’ll let the tenders stand, since it isn’t only the Raiders who’d be hurt by rescinding that.

  • Dakota

    71.Davy Jones Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    I agree. But there is the chance that Michael Bush will play elsewhere in 2011, despite the tender.

    Consider the Patriots- a lot of people prejecting them to draft Mark Inghram at 17th overall. If I were Robert Kraft, I might consider drafting for another position at 17 and giving up the picks for Bush, who IMHO is a better back.

    The Pats have multiple picks in the first, second, and third- they can afford it, and they need a real running back there.
    +++++++++++++++

    Sounded like you were talking about this year’s draft….

  • Dakota

    SAY WHAT????

    msnbc.com staff and news service reports
    updated 3/14/2011 2:05:47 PM ET 2011-03-14T18:05:47

    Share Print Font: +-NORTHAMPTON, Mass. — A U.S.-led research team may have finally located the lost city of Atlantis, the legendary metropolis believed swamped by a tsunami thousands of years ago, in mud flats in southern Spain.

    “This is the power of tsunamis,” head researcher Richard Freund told Reuters.

    “It is just so hard to understand that it can wipe out 60 miles inland, and that’s pretty much what we’re talking about,” said Freund, a professor at the University of Hartford who led an international team searching for the true site of Atlantis.

    To solve the age-old mystery, the team analyzed satellite imagery of a suspected submerged city just north of Cadiz, Spain. There, buried in the vast marshlands of the Dona Ana Park, they believe that they pinpointed the ancient, multiringed dominion known as Atlantis.

    The team of archaeologists and geologists in 2009 and 2010 used a combination of deep-ground radar, digital mapping and underwater technology to survey the site.

    Freund’s discovery in central Spain of a strange series of “memorial cities,” built in Atlantis’ image by its refugees after the city’s likely destruction by a tsunami, gave researchers added proof and confidence, he said.

    Atlantean residents who did not die in the tsunami fled inland and built new cities there, he added.

    The team’s conclusions are detailed in “Finding Atlantis,” a National Geographic Channel special.

    While it is hard to know with certainty that the site in Spain is Atlantis, Freund said the “twist” of finding the memorial cities makes him confident Atlantis was buried in the mud flats.

    “We found something that no one else has ever seen before, which gives it a layer of credibility, especially for archaeology, that makes a lot more sense,” Freund said.

    Greek philosopher Plato wrote about Atlantis 2,600 years ago, describing it as “an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Hercules,” as the Straits of Gibraltar were known in antiquity.

    Using Plato’s detailed account of Atlantis as a map, searches have focused on the Mediterranean and Atlantic as the best possible sites for the city. Researchers have previously proposed that Atlantis was located on the Greek island of Santorini , the Italian island of Sardinia or on Cyprus .

    Tsunamis in the region have been documented for centuries, Freund says. One of the largest was a reported 10-story tidal wave that slammed Lisbon in November 1755.

    Debate about whether Atlantis truly existed has lasted for thousands of years. Plato’s “dialogues” from around 360 B.C. are the only known historical sources of information about the iconic city. Plato said the island he called Atlantis “in a single day and night … disappeared into the depths of the sea.”

    Experts plan further excavations at the site where they believe Atlantis is located and at the mysterious “cities” in central Spain 150 miles away to more closely study geological formations and to date artifacts.

    This report includes information from Reuters and msnbc.com. “Finding Atlantis,” a documentary about the search for the city’s ruins, will air on Tuesday on the National Geographic Channel.

    © 2011 msnbc.com

  • meatheadraider

    The Buffalo Bills made a strong statement in the 2010 NFL Draft by selecting C.J. Spiller and while the dramatic pick came to a shock for many, Buffalo “Billieved” that Spiller was the difference maker they needed. Spiller was the best available player on the draft board, regardless of how many running backs they already had.The Oakland Raiders foolishly passed over Spiller but the bills were not about to make the same mistake! Why should 2011 be any different for GM Buddy Nix and the Buffalo Bills? The Bills could go a number of directions with the third pick in the 2011 NFL Draft and many are expecting a quarterback selection which would lead to an automatic designation as the quarterback of the future. Despite long term owner Ralph Wilson stating the Bills will be drafting a quarterback; it doesn’t necessarily mean that the Bills will use the third overall pick to draft one.

  • Davy Jones

    95.Dakota Says:
    March 14th, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Sounded like you were talking about this year’s draft….

    ====================================================

    I am talking about this year’s draft. I looked up restricted FA on Wikipedia,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_free_agent

    . . . and the example they give of Ricky Manning makes it seem like the picks would come from this year’s draft.

    Now, if they can’t settle the labor dispute by the draft, well, who knows how ANY of it works at that point.

  • meatheadraider

    Breaking News
    Gilbert Gottfried Fired As Aflac Duck After Japanese Tsunami Tweets
    First Posted: 03/14/11 06:01 PM Updated: 03/14/11 06:29 PM

    stumble With some wildly inappropriate tweets, the quack has been silenced.

    Comedian Gilbert Gottfried sent out a slate of offensive twitter missives about the tragic Japanese earthquake and tsunami, and instead of drawing laughs, it cost him his job. The longtime voice of the iconic Aflac Duck, Gottfried was fired by the insurance company on Monday, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

    “Gilbert’s recent comments about the crisis in Japan were lacking in humor and certainly do not represent the thoughts and feelings of anyone at Aflac,” the company, which does 75% of its business in Japan, said in a statement. “There is no place for anything but compassion and concern during these difficult times.”

    Gottfried’s tweets certainly didn’t show compassion. Buzzfeed compiled screen captures of the tweets, which were later deleted from the comedian’s feed. Amongst the worst:

    “I just split up with my girlfriend, but like the Japanese say, “They’ll be another one floating by any minute now.”

    “I was talking to my Japanese real estate agent. I said ‘is there a school in this area.’ She said ‘not now, but just wait.’”

  • tuckrulefool

    HEY PHATCABLE, U SUQ.

    # phatcable Says:
    March 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    I’ll be away for a week on a company-mandated furlough.

    Beat writer Steve Corkran will keep you updated on Raiders news .
    ………he is better anyway…