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`Hard Knocks’ for Raiders?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, March 21st, 2011 at 3:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly the favorites in the clubhouse to be featured in the popular HBO series “Hard Knocks,” but ESPN’s Adam Schefter had an interesting name of another team supposedly in the running:

The Raiders.

A team as notoriously private as the Raiders would seem to be the longest of shots to get the full-on behind-the-scenes treatment.

But Al Davis has allowed coaches in the past to be filmed in the locker room and on the sideline. The photogenic Jon Gruden was the most notable, but there have also been instances the past couple of years where Tom Cable has been featured.

Hue Jackson has some charisma about him and is good in front of a camera. He’d make for some very good practice viewing in Napa and “Hard Knocks” exposure could help national interest as well as local ticket sales.

One issue would have to be worked out, however. On the days when Davis is at practice, photographers, as well as those invited guests, are told not to photograph him by security personnel. Any ideas HBO had of zeroing in on Davis in his golf cart would probably be put to rest rather quickly.

During some instances with NFL Films, such as annual highlight films, the Raiders have also insisted that some of their slogans be mentioned, as well as specifics regarding team history which Davis considers important.

An unfettered view of the Raiders doing business would be fascinating viewing. Even with some restrictions it would be interesting, to say the least.

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  • http://straightcashhomey.net/post/20310438/eddie-jones-los-angeles-lakers-you-probably Dakota

    Lol I wish! I would love to see Herrera doing his magic behind the scenes!

    You know, changing diapers, cutting out/printing out articles about the Raiders, blogging as Priesttj, scouting, media relations, McDonalds/KFC runs, administering the Raider website, responding to Gallery, filing Al’s toenails, etc

    http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/ir/rd/dp/ritos.jpg

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    This isnt a fix! No way Big Al lets that happen tho…

  • http://Www.twitter.com/emdub52 emdub52

    I for one love hard knocks and watch it all the time. I would love for this show to feature the Raiders. I honestly don’t think it’ll ever happen but we could dream right.

    As for teams not doing so well on it or being dirstracted. Take a look at the team that was on last year(AFC Championship Game), or the year before (Playoffs). That dog don’t hunt.

  • iowaraider

    Filming “Hard Knocks” during the Raiders traing camp is as likely as a Dateline special showing a Islamic goverment approved expose of the Iranian justice system.

  • raiden305
  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    One issue would have to be worked out, however. On the days when Davis is at practice, photographers, as well as those invited guests, are told not to photograph him by security personnel. Any ideas HBO had of zeroing in on Davis in his golf cart would probably be put to rest rather quickly.
    ——————————————
    I can understand why he doesn’t want his picture taken.

  • Silverandblack666

    Number 1

  • GoodOle00

    No way. Don’t want it. Look at some of the teams featured.

    They’ve gone on to sug.

    KC, Dallas no thanks

  • BornInOakland

    If there’s a 2011 season, I would not want the Raiders involved in this show. Too many distractions for a team that is close to being a post-season contender (and really should be in 2011) when they don’t need the hassles.

    Nothing good could come from being involved in the show. All I want to see is the damn NFL resolve this problem and for the Raiders to go to work.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    They’ll be selling snow shovels in hell before Al lets cameras at camp….

    Although, I would sign up for HBO in a heartbeat if it did happen. Just to watch Hererra and his goons running arount trying to get their hands in front of the cameras, whenever Al shows up….

  • GoodOle00

    Word 909. lol!

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    But Monday’s antics take the cake. Forget that this event was supposedly called to introduce Hue Jackson as the Raiders new head coach; Jackson was incidental. This was Big Al’s first press conference in 16 months, and the 81-year-old New Englander did not disappoint, fumbling and mumbling his way through the proceedings like an anesthetized goat. His near nine-minute spiel on the firing of head coach Tom Cable was so protracted and confused, so painstakingly puzzled, it was as if an old man let loose from the dementia ward of a 19th century sanatorium had wandered up to the podium..

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    12.KoolKell Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    But Monday’s antics take the cake. Forget that this event was supposedly called to introduce Hue Jackson as the Raiders new head coach; Jackson was incidental. This was Big Al’s first press conference in 16 months, and the 81-year-old New Englander did not disappoint, fumbling and mumbling his way through the proceedings like an anesthetized goat. His near nine-minute spiel on the firing of head coach Tom Cable was so protracted and confused, so painstakingly puzzled, it was as if an old man let loose from the dementia ward of a 19th century sanatorium had wandered up to the podium..

    ———————

    There you go again KK, saying something negative about Coach Davis again.

    I tried to explain to you it wasn’t Coachs’ fault he looked that way. It was lap slurpper lap dog hererra that did that to Coach. After all, ant decent vallet would have offered Coach Davis a baseball cap with the Raider logo on it. hererra knew the media would have a field day with it.

    The man is 82, is a GM and runs football operations, as well as being the owner. You never did answer my question. Will you give Coach Davis his due when he recieves the Lombardi next super bowl?

    BTW Dakota, nasty picture. That foot belongs to hererra, not Coach. Coach can afford better health care than that.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    If Al Davis wins another Super Bowl, I’d be happy as hell to give him his due.

  • EMRaiders

    The Raids on Hard Knocks would be a dream show, but purely from a fan perspective. I agree that the usual yearly soap opera in Oakland starring Al Davis is enough for a team trying to turn the corner. Anything more and it might become too much of a flashy show of a distraction for the players. It would for sure make for good TV though… Who knows… maybe AL would get his own reality TV show after… what would it be called… “Just AL Baby!”, “80 in the 80s”, “Al Strikes Back”, feel free to come up with one on your own…

    And NO to McFadden on the Madden Cover. Madden Curse, remember? Though he might be injury prone enough that it might not even matter…lol

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    14.KoolKell Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 5:21 pm
    If Al Davis wins another Super Bowl, I’d be happy as hell to give him his due.

    —————–

    Thank You. Coach Davis will appreciate that too.

    And on another note, I try and post 32 minutes later and get the ‘slow down your posting to fast’ screen. What is with that? Did hererra do that because I called him a lap slurpping lap dog for not taking better care of Coach Davis?

  • confucius400

    KoolKell Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 5:21 pm
    If Al Davis wins another Super Bowl, I’d be happy as hell to give him his due.

    …………….getting you too admit coach davis deserves credit is like having teeth pulled…….

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    It’s season ticket selling season, Al Davis and his goons at IBA ratchet up the editorial controls pretty high this time of year.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Reverence ought always to come with an expiration date. Altars are built but to crumble; idols are raised but to fall. The real problem with Oakland Raiders fans is that they’re living in the past, where memories are golden and greatness is Silver and Black. Every true believer initially commits himself to heavenly excellence. The one who swears by a perishable savior ultimately condemns himself to earthly decay.

  • ohioraider

    Dakota Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Lol I wish! I would love to see Herrera doing his magic behind the scenes!

    You know, changing diapers, cutting out/printing out articles about the Raiders, blogging as Priesttj, scouting, media relations, McDonalds/KFC runs, administering the Raider website, responding to Gallery, filing Al’s toenails, etc
    —————————————-
    Well, I think Amy takes care of the diapers and toe nails. Though word has it every time she pampers the old man John gets jealous.

  • oldschoolraider

    This will never happen. Big Al is way too suspicious of the media (some might say with good cause) to ever expose the inner workings of the organization.

  • LT DAN

    Dakota post 1 was awesome lmao

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/619225-oakland-raider-owner-al-davis-still-at-war-with-the-nfl

    Proof positive the lock out is a conspiracy against Coach Davis. The NFL and the owners wanted the lock out because Coach was back on the march. They all needed to collect their collective breath and conspire another attempt to derail the Oakland Raiders. Coach will have none of this. He will be handed the next Lombardi.

  • priesttj

    This would be a terrific idea, times have changed and it’s time Mr Davis gave his team some unusual exposure it could make all the difference in gthe world. IMO they would get a chnace to see what things are really like behind those walls instead of leavung it to the media to spin and speculate.

    I think it has a chance to happen…

  • dickv

    Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/619225-oakland-raider-owner-al-davis-still-at-war-with-the-nfl

    Proof positive the lock out is a conspiracy against Coach Davis. The NFL and the owners wanted the lock out because Coach was back on the march. They all needed to collect their collective breath and conspire another attempt to derail the Oakland Raiders. Coach
    will have none of this. He will be handed the next Lombardi.
    _________________________________________________

    I thought the article was kinda ametuerish, but I do agree that Big $ owners are at odds with Big $ owners… the players are being locked out because the Owners want to take an additional 500mil to 1 billy of the top to finance stadiums … for the little$ owners.

    The owners could not agree on how to share revenue between each other except for the above mentioned agree,ment. basically the big $ owners say if the NFL is going to build stadiums for little $ owners take it from the players cut; hence, we have a lockout/ union decertification headed for years of litigation.

  • dickv

    big $ owners vs little 4 owners I meant…

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    It would be nice, but no way in hell Davis allows it

  • David

    Just watching NFLN as they are showing the 1988 49′ers. They just showed a Niner loss to the Raiders (9-3) calling it the “low point of Walsh’s career” cuz of losing to Al Davis, who had brought Walsh into the league (the player said).

    They showed a #7 at QB for the Raiders. I could look it up but does anyone remember who good ole #7 was that year?

  • David

    28.David Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Just watching NFLN as they are showing the 1988 49′ers. They just showed a Niner loss to the Raiders (9-3) calling it the “low point of Walsh’s career” cuz of losing to Al Davis, who had brought Walsh into the league (the player said).

    They showed a #7 at QB for the Raiders. I could look it up but does anyone remember who good ole #7 was that year?

    Had to look it up anyway. # 7 was Steve Beuerlein. The LA Raiders of 1988 were 7-9 under HC Mike Shanahan.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    24.priesttj Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    This would be a terrific idea, times have changed and it’s time Mr Davis gave his team some unusual exposure it could make all the difference in gthe world. IMO they would get a chnace to see what things are really like behind those walls instead of leavung it to the media to spin and speculate.

    I think it has a chance to happen…

    —————————-

    When the mystery and intrigue are unveiled, what would be left? The only way to know what goes on behind the silver and black curtain is to be a confidant in Coach Davis’ orbit. Never happen. Coach eats that media spin and speculation for breakfast.

  • priesttj

    The team could use the closeness to their fanbase it wont affect the mystigue one bit it would actually add to it. At the same time it would bring a sense pride and ownership to the fans. Their team would be the center of attention for the first time in some time and give them insight that would add to their afinity for the team.

    I think it would be wildly successful, it could even add or confirm their ideals that make them such fans of this team. It just depends on how it’s done. The Raiders have an outstanding film crew of their own and studio in the facility. They produce 3 series of their own to do just tha,t give the fans insight on the team.

  • David

    Interesting that people like to rag on the Raiders and their low attendance while in Los Angeles but people forget that the Raiders shared the spotlight THE ENTIRE TIME in LA with the Rams, who left after the ’94 season as well.

    LA doesn’t have a team there now as we know, so how the heck we’re the Raiders gonna be able to pack ‘em in when they not only were not in a big NFL town but had the fans split with the support of the Rams who had been there since 1946?

    Bringing the Raiders BACK to LA with no competition for the NFL love and you’d have a different story. New stadium would be needed though.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    31.priesttj Says:
    March 21st, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    The team could use the closeness to their fanbase it wont affect the mystigue one bit it would actually add to it. At the same time it would bring a sense pride and ownership to the fans. Their team would be the center of attention for the first time in some time and give them insight that would add to their afinity for the team.

    I think it would be wildly successful, it could even add or confirm their ideals that make them such fans of this team. It just depends on how it’s done. The Raiders have an outstanding film crew of their own and studio in the facility. They produce 3 series of their own to do just tha,t give the fans insight on the team.

    —————–

    I agree it would be something to get a peek into the behind the scenes. But I’m afraid there would be so many ‘ground rules’ that perhaps a deal could never be struck.

    Hard to imagine Coach Davis would relinquish any ‘trade secrets’ the competition could use against him. I’m afraid his privacy concerns may out weigh the benefits of going on air. Coach will let us in when he is good and ready.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/641764-hard-knocks-2011-power-ranking-the-top-10-nfl-teams-we-want-to-see-on-hbo#page/1

    Why the redskins rank #1 just dilutes the credibility of this report. However, Coach Davis and the Raiders are #2.

  • Kirk

    A segment of the show on how to finish last in the NFL in rushing defense for years on end would be great.

    “First, you only play man to man defense…”

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Hey! Welcome back Jerry!

    The proposed changes in the kick-off rule are just plain dumb.
    Why in the world would you want to make the game LESS exciting.
    Goodell should stop fuk’n around with the game.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I wish they could have done the Hard Knocks on the 2009 training camp with Jamarcus crashing and burning.

    That would have been great TV!!!

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    That is a great article on bleacher report on ‘al davis still at war with the league’.

    Usually bleacher report is meh, but that article was excellent.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    As for the rules, they’re ALL stupid.
    Unfortunately, the new 8 defenseless player ones are already in.
    Seriously, that kills football.
    The thing is, football has a set standard of rules. The NFL is just a league/body, thankfully they are not a FIFA that can force all other leagues and their following of rules to change.
    We really need Goodell ousted, but the fat suit owners to all wake up and revert back to the rules before Goodell changed them all.

    George Halas is rolling around in his grave.

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!
    GG…been awhile! But as always, good perspective of what needs to happen and now! Goodell has ruined everything that made me love football, ala The Raiders as a kid! Tatum, Atkinson, Shell, Upshaw, and all those fantastic hits that were made (and obviosuly not only by The Silver and Black). That 8 defenseless players….oh brother! What happened to…oh yeah! Goodell as well as the end of Tagliabue!

  • Just Fire Baby

    No way do I see Al agreeing to something like this.

    I have watched every Hard Knocks but this last one on the Jets.

    They don’t always portray the organization as all peaches and roses. The Bengals were often mocked for being super cheap, a mom and pop organization that focuses more on the bottom line than winning.

  • hwnrdr

    Here we go again with this site going bananas!

  • Just Fire Baby

    The league made a few somewhat controversial changes last year (above the head rule on hits most notably) that drew a bunch of ire from fans……..than the league went on to have it’s most successful and watched season ever.

    Not really the type of feedback to sway Goodell away from making more changes to protect player health.

  • fingers

    Comish Goodell needs to go… Why mess with a game that’s been so sucessful…” if it ain’t Broke, Dont fix it “…

  • Just Fire Baby

    You go to wikipedia for every NFL season, and I see at least one rule change that seems kind of stupid to me, every season.

    Remember the 5 yard penalty on the home team if the crowd is too loud?

  • Nnamdi21

    25. The reason you found the article amateurish is because it came from BLEACHER REPORT!!!

    lmao!

    Any hack with half a chimp brain can write their biased completely unfounded view on anything and these hacks at BR crank it out like it means something.

    WORSE than getting info from a blog. ALL speculation and 99% worthless.

    One of the reasons real journalism is dying.

  • hwnrdr

    Jerry Glanville was always fun to watch when he was in Atlanta!

  • Just Fire Baby

    1989 – Home team fans too loud penalty put into rule
    1990 – Spearing or head-butting is grounds for ejection and suspension
    1992 – Repeal instant-replay for what would be 7 years
    1994 – Two point conversions are added; blocking rules on FG’s are added, and the Neutral zone infraction rule
    1995 – Insert radio’s in QB’s headsets
    1996 – Blows to the head become penalties
    1997 – Rules preventing players from taking there helmets off in celebration
    1999 – The Tuck Rule is created
    2000 – More celebration prohibitions
    2001 – Reclassification of roughing the passer
    2002 – Chop blocks on kickoffs disallowed; can no longer hit a QB in the head; even after in play change of possession
    2005 – Can’t touch the punter rules; creation of the horse-collar rule; No more Peel-Back blocks
    2006 – The Brady rule; can’t hit a QB below the knee
    2008 – No more 5 yard penalties on facemasks, everything is 15 yards
    2009 – More rules on blind-side blocks, trying to eliminate the big hit; defenseless receiver rules and no more wedges on kickoffs.

    So it really isn’t Roger Goodell, it is a 20 year slow process of eliminating celebrations, and big hits on QB’s, punters, and defenseless defenders (crack-back blocks) as well as receivers.

  • hwnrdr

    Yes, but always was a fan of Madden…when he said on MNF…that back in my days a fumble was a fumble! Ground didn’t cause sh*t! Same thing really!

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    Al always wanted to kill off the NFL and see the AFL become the #1 league if not the only league.

    It’d be great if Al’s swan-song was rounding up some billionaires and re-forming a breakaway AFL. Improbable, I know.

    But where the NFL is right now is at its end. I will not watch it if these new defenseless player rules are as bad as they are. And, remember, the more they bring new rules in, the more they keep bringing them in. As proven during Goodell’s tenure.

    What you have is 31 owners, a commissioner, and a competitive competition committee who are all destroying the fabric of the game itself. The CBA thing is another example of that. But the ruination of the game is my greatest fear and greatest anger.