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Jackson: Players will be ready

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 22nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson told reporters at the NFL owners meetings he thinks players will be ready to play whenever an agreement is reached.

“I think a pro football player knows what his duties are and what he needs to do to prepare himself to play,” Jackson said. “There’s a lot being made right now about guys getting together to work out. Is there some good to that?

“There’s no question there is. But most players right now are probably preparing their bodies to get ready for an offseason program, so I would think if you play in the National Football League, you’re doing everything you can do get your bodies and minds right so you can be ready to go play.”

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  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Yes they will. And Coach Davis will be at the helm.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    New thought on Hard Knocks:

    At first I thought it was a bad idea because it could expose some of the Raider ‘trade secrets’ and certainly believe Coach Davis wouldn’t ever reveal the mystery behind the silver and black curtain.

    But after much thought and meditation into the matter, I think Coach should go for it.

    Coach Davis could use it as a platform to expose the dirty and vicious conspiracies that have been leveled at him by the NFL over the years. He could pull some Lance Kiffins/Tom Cables on some of the cronies who have done him wrong over the years. Coach could get even with all the refs who’ve screwed the Raiders out of many victories. He could even launch into a tirade about the so-called tuck rule. He could use it for Raider propaganda. Do segments on nothing but past Raider greatness. Glimpses of how Coach Davis has been at the forefront with innovative hirings, bringing back washed up players for second carreers, all that good stuff. Even one show could be about Run-Run, God rest his soul. Coach as the philanthropist, champion of opportunity, leader of men, humanitarian.

    Can you imagine not even one glimpse of a practice or locker room but Coach Davis airing dirty laundry on those who have conspired to bring him down. Even do an interview with lap dog hererra and then Coach cuts him off as Tim Kawakami comes screaming across security lines headed towards the lap dog.

    It could be nothing but Raider lore, past and future.

    Yes, the Raiders on Hard Knocks would be another example of Coach Davis blazing new trails.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
    March 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Yes, the Raiders on Hard Knocks would be another example of Coach Davis blazing new trails.
    ———————————-
    Al Davis blazing entrails would be on display, most likely.

  • MVTARaider

    Get the CBA done… Enough with the Bravo Sierra…

    Silver & Black Forever…

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  • imaquaman

    what is with all the talk about hard knocks .it probably will never happen for a true fan ,(someone born a raider fan)like myself .as for all you low life wannabe kc,sd d,9er fans that dream of touching yourself in public,your nothing more than a bunch of uncle f$#@ers trying to infest the raider nation by claiming to be a fan and talk crap on a daily basis while stroking your dogs and calling it grooming cause it makes you feel funny inside.what are you going to do if it does air and you see the quaterback coach ,coaching the quaterbach ,or the defensive cord. running the defense,what then ,if your talking crap about the raiders and al davis and trying to pose as a fan (you know who you are )you suck .cause your uncle suckers and you wish you were a raider fan,but your too busy sucking uncles,and grooming puppies ,go back to kc ,sd denver where ever your uncle lives and stay if your still reading this you agree and you know who im talking about

  • oo

    Mario prolly watching Hue interview hitting the bong man

  • Carl Weathers

    The players are most likely exercising their lungs and doing the horizontal dance with bar trash and pole twirlers.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    Every year I take a song and re-do it to a Raiders theme.

    Previous years I did…

    Al Will Always Love Me (I Will Always Love You)
    The Celebration Of The Kiffin (The Celebration Of The Lizard)
    Amy Trask (TNT)
    I’m An Oakland Raider (I’m An Outlaw Scumf**k)

    So here’s this year’s effort…

    HUE JACKSON (High Voltage)

    Well you ask me ’bout the plays I call
    And you ask me why I air the ball
    And you ask me why I’m in this thing
    I dig being a Raider linchpin
    So you wanna see us doin’ our thing
    All you gotta do is plug into Hue
    I said Hue
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson roadshow

    Well you ask me if I like to blitz
    And you ask me if I like to run
    And you ask me if I want to win
    I got to get Al wins some way
    And you ask me what I’m all about
    Come on stand and shout Hue
    I said Hue
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    roadshow

    I said Hue
    I said Hue
    waooh

    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson roadshow

    Just win baby
    Burn the candlelight, put the lights out, turn the film on

    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Hue Jackson roadshow
    Haters gonna hate
    Hue Jackson
    Hue Jackson
    Plug me in, turn the film on, I’m a sparklin’ man
    Hue Jackson roadshow

  • Just Fire Baby

    Heard yesterday that just right below half (I think it was 48%) of kickoff returns for TD’s were 95 yards or less last year.

    It goes to over 60% if you go 97 yards and under.

    And with players no longer able to get a running start on covering kicks, returners are going to be more willing to bring out kicks a few yards deep in the end zone.

    I will guess that this 5 yard rule will increase touchbacks no more than 20% from last year, which will average out to maybe one or two more touchbacks a game.

    Not life-threatening, really no reason to be up in arms. It’s all about player safety. A few less total returns, and kick coverers with a little less runway to build up their speed.

  • http://www.wix.com/GGEden/ggeden GG

    It’s the defenseless player rules that are putting people up in arms. And the general attitude by the competition committee of annually changing rules, messing with things that don’t need to be tampered with. No reason for the kick-off rule to be touched, even if it isn’t a bad rule.

  • bcz24

    I like the proposed rule that ALL scoring plays can be challenged by booth, no coaches challenge required. I hope that one passes.

  • GoodOle00

    “I would think if you play in the National Football League, you’re doing everything you can do get your bodies and minds right so you can be ready to go play.”

    ===================

    Unless you’re Michael Bush and Mario Henderson.

  • Mistabr0wn

    I heard DHB’s still photos are smokin hot this off season. He could light it up for 3 TD’s if defenses aren’t careful….lookout…..period
    ____

    “I would think if you play in the National Football League, you’re doing everything you can do get your bodies and minds right so you can be ready to go play.”

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!! If you’re in the Bay…stay dry and safe! Idiots are out in full force today!

  • Scottish Raider

    Herewith the first 2011 Scottish Mock Raider Draft:

    Round 2: Marcus Cannon G TCU

    Huge, athletic, nasty and huge. Just ideal to replace Carlisle at RG, allowing Bruce to move to RT.

    Round 3: Davon House, CB, New Mexico State

    We need help at CB and there are worries about whether Walter and Ware are good enough to step up. House is quick enough, big enough and might be around at No81.

    Round 4: Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

    We need depth at OT, especially with doubts about Mario and Walker. Newton has the potential to be a starter and is good value in the 4th.

    Round 5: Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock

    Small college but a real prospect. A big guy, 316lbs and naturally strong. Will need time but could challenge Satele by mid-season.

    Round 6: Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama

    I think McElroy might fall this far – and whilst he doesn’t have the biggest arms or the flashiest numbers, he is efficient, smart and a real leader. Great value.

    Round 7: Jonas Mouton, OLB, Michigan

    Good size, quick and nasty. Will provide depth and should star on STs.

  • Mistabr0wn

    I cant find 1 libtard protesting the unconstitutional invasion of Libya. Now if GW did this, oh boy!

    Hey brownie, pres derelict, purple lips, how about jobs NOT bombs?

  • hwnrdr

    So Jackson says that his players will be ready to play. Adam Schefter reports yesterday that he season looks to be in peril. That alone was enough to not renew my season tix until I know there is a season…what do you think it will do to the players? I hear Huffy is trying to run track with Chris Johnson, although he was asking if he could talk to Raider’s officials at Texas’ pro day…???
    So what does all this really mean???

  • http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eb53t3&s=5&hid=3&tag=my+pool Lynn from Snot

    After they’re done bastardizing the game , it won’t be watchable anyway. Now’s the time for the players to join another league. If that is even possible.

  • GoodOle00

    bcz24 Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 am
    I like the proposed rule that ALL scoring plays can be challenged by booth, no coaches challenge required. I hope that one passes

    ================

    This f’ing sucks. The game will drag. They’ll be able to pack in more f’ing commercials and its ALL for the gambling community.

    What a huge crock of sh*t they’re making this League.

    BTW, since I won’t be able to post again for an hour or more, might as well say.

    FIX THE F’ING BLOG!!!!!!

    “You’re posting too fast”

  • RaiderRockstar

    Scumbags like you are always willing to Cap working people’s wages, but never the crooks at the top.

    Ochocinco and other star players puts Butt’s in the seats that provide the revenue for owners & players, Not Mike Brown or Al Davis.

    ***

    Kell,

    I am a part of the “working people” and players like Chad Johnson are easily replaced. How many times have the Bungles made the playoffs since he was drafted in 2001? twice. How many times did they represent the AFC in the Super Bowl? zilch

    the only “scumbag” on this blog is you. Your wife is the breadwinner while you blog 12 hours a day ranting about Al Davis. You call other racists while you yourself are racist. You call others poor while you yourself collect an unemployment check. You are MR’s only fan on this blog – a notorious douche bag with lust for his own cousin. Let me know next time you challenge Br1en to a fight and back down again too, coward.

  • GoodOle00

    17. Nobody loves you. Especially you.

    =======

    10. 10.Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 am
    Heard yesterday that just right below half (I think it was 48%) of kickoff returns for TD’s were 95 yards or less last year.

    It goes to over 60% if you go 97 yards and under.

    And with players no longer able to get a running start on covering kicks, returners are going to be more willing to bring out kicks a few yards deep in the end zone.

    I will guess that this 5 yard rule will increase touchbacks no more than 20% from last year, which will average out to maybe one or two more touchbacks a game.

    Not life-threatening, really no reason to be up in arms. It’s all about player safety. A few less total returns, and kick coverers with a little less runway to build up their speed.

    ========

    You’re guessing and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Last time this rule was in effect (from 83-94?) stats showed 400+ touchbacks and like 4 TDS.

    Last year 200+ touchbacks and 24 TDS.

    Another example of tinkering the game to death.

  • GoodOle00

    21. You demonstrated remarkable recall but failed to even attempt to answer to this accusation did you RR?

    “Scumbags like you are always willing to Cap working people’s wages, but never the crooks at the top.”

    =================

    No. No you didn’t. Instead you degenerated into an ugly personal attack. I’m guessing you’re right leaning. Typical.

  • http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eb53t3&s=5&hid=3&tag=my+pool Lynn from Snot

    The next rule change will be implemented when the Raiders are vying for a playoff spot or actually winning a playoff game. Flag on the play , The QB wasn’t given enough time to throw . Automatic first down Plus 15 yards for not counting to three Mississippi on defense.

  • hwnrdr

    LMAO Lynn from Snot!

  • Carl Weathers

    22.GoodOle00 Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 am
    17. Nobody loves you. Especially you.

    =======

    10. 10.Just Fire Baby Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 5:46 am
    Heard yesterday that just right below half (I think it was 48%) of kickoff returns for TD’s were 95 yards or less last year.

    It goes to over 60% if you go 97 yards and under.

    And with players no longer able to get a running start on covering kicks, returners are going to be more willing to bring out kicks a few yards deep in the end zone.

    I will guess that this 5 yard rule will increase touchbacks no more than 20% from last year, which will average out to maybe one or two more touchbacks a game.

    Not life-threatening, really no reason to be up in arms. It’s all about player safety. A few less total returns, and kick coverers with a little less runway to build up their speed.

    ========

    You’re guessing and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Last time this rule was in effect (from 83-94?) stats showed 400+ touchbacks and like 4 TDS.

    Last year 200+ touchbacks and 24 TDS.

    Another example of tinkering the game to death.

    *******************

    Last time the ball was teed up at the 35, the coverage team still had a running start. That is the difference this time around. I think it really benefits the Raiders. Jano should be able to touchback everytime there is no wind and Ford is so fast that the extra 5 won’t matter considering the coverage will be a little slower getting downfield.

  • Silverandblack666

    Nice post RR

    My political party would include loud rock music, Hookers, booze, pre-rolled joints and hashish smoked with a vaporizer.

    Then I would make sure tax payers got the bill

  • RaiderRockstar

    I’m guessing you’re right leaning. Typical.

    ***

    Ole,

    Kell can speak for himself and my political party of choice is none of your concern. Thanks and have a great day

  • RaiderRockstar

    “willing to Cap working people’s wages, but never the crooks at the top.”

    ***

    How is Al Davis a crook or somebody considered non-working?

    He is probably the most heavily involved owner and professional sports!

    What other owners do you know of that serve as the team’s GM, scouting department, payroll, public relations, community n’ charity spokesman, offensive consultant and defensive coordinator?

    He’s gonna be 82 years old in 3 or 4 months!

    Thats pretty impressive if you ask me …

    by the way, YOU PEOPLE are all fans of “his” team.

    Get Over It!

  • http://straightcashhomey.net/post/20310438/eddie-jones-los-angeles-lakers-you-probably Dakota

    How difficult can it be to divide $9 billion dollars up?

    The owners get their first bite of the pie, then the players and owners split the rest 53-47 in favor of the players.

    The rookies need to get paid like they deserve….so a rookie wage scale needs to be implemented. Set a limit on the salaries for rookies, but then give them free agency a year earlier so that they can cash in….and teams can better weed out the Russell’s, DHBs and Gallery’s before breaking the bank on them. Just make rookie contracts for first rounders guaranteed so that the rookies have some protection.

    Set up a low priced, subsidized health insurance policy for former players, and their families, who meet a means test.

    16 game schedule….F the owners who want 18 games…you can’t complain about injuries to QBs and defenseless players and then add two regular season games to the schedule…and dropping two preseason games doesn’t make up for two regular season games…not even close.

    Come on you greedy b@stards! Don’t kill the golden goose.

  • RaiderRockstar

    NFL players make owners a lot of money; thus, they are in demand. Teams will pay big $ to acquire the talent it takes to win.

    ***

    Dick,

    there will always be talented football players and other athletes willing to take $1 million or less per season. Are you telling me that fans wont come to watch Raider games unless we pay Richard Seymour $15 million per season to be the highest paid defensive player in the NFL because he’s a Pro Bowler and former Super Bowl champ? How much money is he actually making for Al Davis? Our run defense was pretty crappy the past 2 years with him starting on the D-Line and he wasn’t exactly a sack machine either.

    Couldn’t somebody else start at DT and rack up 6 sacks and a 29th ranked Run D?

  • RaiderRockstar

    What I don’t care for is people saying the players are greedy when the owners are asking them to take a pay cut. More importantly the owners won’t open their books so their claims can be justified. Imagine if you invested stock in a company and they didn’t divulge their earnings statement. Literally, they cannot cuz it’s illegal.

    ***

    Reign8,

    players aren’t “investing” in the Raiders. They are looking for work and trying to find the best opportunity for them and thier families. They are employees and owners are the boss. There is a chain of command, you see? Like it or not, Al Davis is in a position of authority. He is in charge of what he pays his players. When those players demand more (like Gallery), they get shown the door. By the way, I’m pretty sure Daniel Loper was making the vet minimum last year and about 90 percent of Raider Nation said that he played just as well as Robert Gallery and his #2 overall draft pick contract that finally expired

    Darrius Heyward-Bey versus Jacoby Ford is another fine example of that!

  • GoodOle00

    26. Thats nice Weathers. Well put but I don’t care who you are back in the real world. If you ghost our postion again I’ll bleed ya, real quiet, leave ya here…

    Ha! Thats a line delivered to Carl Weathers as “Dillon” in Predator.

    Good points though.

    Raider ST speed from a stand still is an advantage over most teams.

  • ohioraider

    I have to say, my thinking’s come around on this. Now I stand firmly in CoachDavisMachoTacoSupremo’s corner. This damn lockout is a league-wide (possible UN influence as well) conspiracy to keep the Raiders out of the Super Bowl and deny Coach Davis a glorious return to prominence. Makes sense.

  • GoodOle00

    Raiders D was 29th against the run in 2010.

    Song remains the same.

    Oakland led by far in runs of 40+ with 7.

    They had 17 runners break away for 20+. Also in the top 6.

    Its the system Davis demands.

    Read where its a calculated strategy. Big dramatic break aways are gonna happen with this much man D but they don’t hurt as much once twice a game if your putting up 28 points and eating the clock.

    Eventually if you’ve got the lead the other team has to abanddon the run and throw into the pass D strength.

  • http://build-a-bully 909RaiderLifer

    Obviously, this was a coded message from Al, delivered through Hue to the players..

    Turn your stereos down, stay out of the clubs, or at least get a cab. Get in the gym, and be ready to dominate. I’m tired of reading about you on the police blotter…

  • dickv

    Raider Rockstar says

    there will always be talented football players and other athletes willing to take $1 million or less per season.
    _________________________________________________

    Are there players that come off the street, out of college, obscurity and compete at the highest level with the worlds best pro football players… yes. Of course there is. Teams find players like Cameron Wake, Stephen Neal, Arian Foster everyonce in a while. The raiders have a few diamonds they have mined as well: Marcel Reece, Desmond Bryant… to a certain extent Tommy Kelly an undrafted rookie free agent they have developed that they later paid a big bag of money to, but that goes against what you are saying.

    To do that consitently is a whole other ballgame. To be the best you have to acquire the best players and pay them accordingly…

    Take a look at the All Pro Teams and tell me how many of these players are making less than 1 million a year.

    FIRST-TEAM OFFENSE
    Quarterback: Tom Brady, New England.- Hell no Big $
    Running Backs: Jamaal Charles, Kansas City; Arian Foster, Houston.- both men probably are
    Fullback: Vonta Leach, Houston.- probably
    Tight End Jason Witten, Dallas.- Big $
    Wide Receivers: Roddy White, Atlanta; Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis.- both make big $
    Tackles: Jake Long, Miami; Joe Thomas, Cleveland.- both Big $
    Guards: Logan Mankins, New England; Jahri Evans, New Orleans.- both big $
    Center: Nick Mangold, New York Jets.- nope
    Kicker: Billy Cundiff, Baltimore.
    Kick Returner: Devin Hester, Chicago.- no

    FIRST-TEAM DEFENSE
    Ends: Julius Peppers, Chicago; John Abraham, Atlanta.
    Tackles: Haloti Ngata, Baltimore; Ndamukong Suh, Detroit.- big $
    Outside Linebackers: Clay Matthews, Green Bay; James Harrison, Pittsburgh.- Clay makes big $; Harrison is currently tagged to make big $, but he fits your next guy up scenario
    Inside Linebacker: Patrick Willis, San Francisco; Jerod Mayo, New England.- big $
    Cornerbacks: Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland; Darrelle Revis, New York Jets.- really big $ over here
    Safeties: Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh; Ed Reed, Baltimore.- big $
    Punter: Shane Lechler, Oakland.- too much money

    SECOND-TEAM OFFENSE
    Quarterback: None.
    Running Backs: Michael Turner, Atlanta; Adrian Peterson, Minnesota.- big $
    Fullback: Ovie Mughelli, Atlanta.(?)
    Tight End: Antonio Gates, San Diego.- big $
    Wide Receivers: Brandon Lloyd, Denver; Calvin Johnson, Detroit, and Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City (tie).- Lloyd maybe but Bowe and CJ both big $
    Tackles: Jason Peters, Philadelphia; Sebastian Vollmer, New England.- Peters makes big $; Vollmer might fit your scenario
    Guards: Chris Snee, New York Giants; Carl Nicks, New Orleans.- both make big $
    Center: Maurkice Pouncey, Pittsburgh.
    Kicker: David Akers, Philadelphia.- Big $
    Kick Returner: Leon Washington, Seattle.

    SECOND-TEAM DEFENSE
    Ends: Osi Umenyiora, New York Giants; Justin Tuck, New York Giants.- big $
    Tackles: Vince Wilfork, New England; Kyle Williams, Buffalo.- Wilfork big $; williams don’t know
    Outside Linebackers: Cameron Wake, Miami; DeMarcus Ware, Dallas.- Ware big $; wake fits your profile
    Inside Linebackers: Brian Urlacher, Chicago; Ray Lewis, Baltimore.- Big $
    Cornerbacks: Devin McCourty, New England; Charles Woodson, Green Bay.- charles big $; Mcourty may fit your profile depending on how much 2nd rd picks make
    Safeties: Nick Collins, Green Bay; and Antrel Rolle, New York Giants, Eric Weddle, San Diego, Malcolm Jenkins, New Orleans, Quintin Mikell, Philadelphia, Chris Harris, Chicago, Michael Huff, Oakland, Michael Griffin, Tennessee, and Darren Sharper, New Orleans (tie).- Not sure on these guys to be honest but we all know Huff makes big $.
    Punter: Mat McBriar, Dallas.

    So out of the NFL’s top 50 or so players or so over half of them were 1st round picks. All of them will demand a big contract once there rookie deal runs its course. most certainly all will get that 2nd big contract, but it is up to each individual GM to ensure they are getting the most bang for their $.

    It costs money to have talented players. the majority of the talent comes from the 1st round draft picks. The teams find the rest from the the other 7 rounds and free agency. first round picks cost $.

    NFL Revenue is growing by 15-20% a year on their current system, so there are a lot of things working right as is.

  • 8RaiderReign8

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    What I don’t care for is people saying the players are greedy when the owners are asking them to take a pay cut. More importantly the owners won’t open their books so their claims can be justified. Imagine if you invested stock in a company and they didn’t divulge their earnings statement. Literally, they cannot cuz it’s illegal.

    ***

    Reign8,

    players aren’t “investing” in the Raiders. They are looking for work and trying to find the best opportunity for them and thier families. They are employees and owners are the boss. There is a chain of command, you see? Like it or not, Al Davis is in a position of authority. He is in charge of what he pays his players. When those players demand more (like Gallery), they get shown the door. By the way, I’m pretty sure Daniel Loper was making the vet minimum last year and about 90 percent of Raider Nation said that he played just as well as Robert Gallery and his #2 overall draft pick contract that finally expired

    Darrius Heyward-Bey versus Jacoby Ford is another fine example of that!
    ____________________

    Most of the things you said divert attention from the main issue. OPENNING THE FRANCHISE BOOKS. What I said has nothing to do with individual contract signings. Also, when player act as a group, ie. union, they increase their power dramatically. For example Al Davis has to pay players more to sign them to the Oakland Raiders.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Since the Tax-payers aren’t funding NFL Stadiums anymore, The Owners, half of whom inherited their Teams & wealth, want to shortstop the Players to finance their stadiums.

    Rush Limbaugh and AM radio manipulate po-white trash out in the booneys, who hate black people in the first place, and get them to tap into their hatreds for the benefit of the Owners.

  • Silverandblack666

    KK

    Your the biggest bigot in here.

    How anyone can turn a player owner stadium funding conversation into a white black racial topic is beyond me.

    Crawl back into your hole no matter what color you are.

    Its people like you who keep racism alive.

  • RaiderSam

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    March 23rd, 2011 at 8:04 am

    I cant find 1 libtard protesting the unconstitutional invasion of Libya. Now if GW did this, oh boy!
    =============================================
    here’s the memo. Anwar Al-Awaki is the supposed head of Al Quieda and is a CIA asset. Al-Quieda is an invention of Robert Gates/Zbigniew Brezinzki during the Carter Administration/Afghan War. Its a hired out mercenary group destabilizing the middle east with known connections to the Saudi’s (remember the Visas to the “terrorists” handed out in embassies prior to 9/11 – wake up. Its another empire invasion to dethrone a puppet the Government set up after 30 years. Same deal with Mubarak in Egypt, only Egypt’s was a bloodless coup with the Army standing down.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    :wall: