Owners, NFLPA should take Al’s advice
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 23rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Bill Parcells often relays the story of the most important thing he learned from Al Davis.
“Nobody cares,” Parcells told Bay Area media. “Nobody cares about your injuries or your problems. All they want to know on Monday is if you won.”
It’s a lesson NFL owners and the NFLPA (or whatever it is) would do well to heed.
Most NFL teams, including the 49ers, have issued statements to their fans, a subtle way of getting their message out and defending their strategy of locking out the players.
The alleged gag order during mediated collective bargaining was a joke. DeMaurce Smith, Jeff Pash and Roger Goodell could hardly wait to get behind a microphone to disparage the other side, and there was no shortage of leakers for ambitious reporters such as Mike Silver and Jim Trotter.
There hasn’t been a peep out of Oakland. Davis, relegated to the background in part because he helped push forward the 2006 agreement which is the root cause of all the disagreement about how best to divide $9 billion, has had nothing to say.
Both sides would do well to follow his lead, because in this case, Davis is right.
Nobody cares.
Oh, the fans care deeply about football and want it every Sunday.
But they don’t care about how the money is divided or which side gets the upper hand. The amount of time and effort the non-union as well as ownership has devoted to spin is a monumental waste of time that could be put to better use settling differences.
ROUTT Q&A
ESPN’s Bill Williamson caught up with Raiders cornerback Stanford Routt for a quick Q&A.
HUFF TALKING LIKE A RAIDER
Michael Huff is scheduled for free agency upon completion of a collective bargaining agreement, but immediately looked at the placement of kickoffs at the 35-yard line through silver and black glasses.
On his Twitter account, Huff predicted good things for Sebastian Janikowski but didn’t seen overly concerned about Jacoby Ford, figuring the return specialist would just have to start a little deeper in the end zone.
Huff also wondered if he would be able to talk with Raiders coaches and/or scouts on hand for the pro day at Texas.
Whether Huff remains a Raider will depend on what other teams are willing to spend to get him. The fact that he’s getting to free agency at all means they’re prepared to lose him, and they even signed Hiram Eugene to a four-year contract with a nice raise just in case.
The Raiders usually strike quickly and with huge money on players they want to keep (Janikowski, Lechler, Asomugha, Seymour, Routt . . . )
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March 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
First thing OakglennSeymour666 posted that isnt 100%nonsense. KK is a mentally retarded d-bag.
Nice job!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
KK
Your the biggest bigot in here.
March 23rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I like Huff’s progress this past year
March 23rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Jerry,
Can’t you see that the technical difficulties being experienced on your blog are ruining your comment count? Really, how difficult is it to fix the same problem you had in here no more than a year ago or so?
You must want to go on a permanent furlough?
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
KK, you are recognized on this blog as a free loading sponge here 18hrs a day devoting your pathetic life to smashing on a 90yr old man by the name of AL. You’re a bigot with his head up his anus like 666/seymourbush said and so many others.
The end.
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
SistaBrowneye or brownstains whatever they call you…
I really don’t care what a feeble minded unemployed deviant like you thinks about my posts or what your political views are.
First of all I seriously doubt you make enough money to vote republican. Second when you try to hard to convince yourself that I am three or more people only feeds my ego and makes you look like a dolt yet again.
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
The title of this story made me a bit startled.
1.) Huff & Nnamdi, we want both, we all do, but we still need to sign Miller & Bush, how the hell could AL pay Nnamdi & Huff too?
2.) Gut feeling tells me Nnamdi will somehow be kept, he has interviewed about speaking with AL Davis about how he is interested in playing his whole career out in OAK.
3.) Loper didn’t need that much, Hiram didn’t and Seymour deal he wouldn’t have gotten anywhere else, Wimbley was overpaid too … the only one that deserved that loot was Routt, he missed some costly tackles that make people forget how solid he was all year in pass coverage.
4.) Draft Wiz’s nephew & please God lets hope Bruce Cambell is someone who really can play, I heard in college he used his athletic ability and needs more of a meanstreak in him to fight to get on the field. Most AL track stars are skilled players, now a linemen? helppppppppp
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
~~~ I got some advise too donee eat yellow snow… LOL>… jk nice stuff jerry !!
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
“How can a 81year old wheelchair bound man be a General Manager of a professional sports franchise?”
When you have John Herrera as your wing man….the sky is the limit!
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
We are one of those teams that needs to be in camp more than anyone else, Jason Cambell has a lot to work on. Why after an 8-8 year!? Why!?
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
yo
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
go raiders…keep nnamdi and huff
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
BrownStains, you absolutely no credibility commenting on Racism, thanks.
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
“Bill Parcells often relays the story of the most important thing he learned from Al Davis.”
Hold the phone, Bill Parcells actually learned something from Al Davis?
[sarcasm]Are we sure that he didn’t learn it from Ron Wolf or Jon Gruden or Bruce Allen?[/sarcasm]
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
we gotta keep Huff and Nnamdi
Nnamdi is the best at what he does.
Huff has shown progress and that single deep saftey is hard to play as well as hard to learn
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Keep Nnamdi for what? To backup Routt,CJ, and McFadden?
I hope he is ready for a HUGE paycut.
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DaTruth91 Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
we gotta keep Huff and Nnamdi
Nnamdi is the best at what he does.
Huff has shown progress and that single deep saftey is hard to play as well as hard to learn
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Warriors GM on the value of seeing prospects in person:
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In Riley’s estimation, video study alone doesn’t afford that kind of intimacy. So he maintains a globe-trotting scouting detail during his version of March Madness, a travel schedule that is probably unmatched in the league by similarly high-ranked decision-makers and one that takes a visible toll on his sleep cycles.
Starting after last month’s trade deadline, Riley set out on an arduous itinerary. He shuttled east and then south, over the pond, back across the States, and finally throughout the Midwest – all the time chasing in-person evaluations of players who could be selected in the first round of this year’s draft.
“I wouldn’t say I’m hands-on, but I’m pretty active,” Riley said. “I’m probably more active, or at least as active, as the other general managers. That’s what I’m comfortable with and how I want to do it.”
Riley speaks of the pristine evaluations he’s received from director of player personnel Travis Schlenk, and the general manager has similar confidence in his entire scouting staff. Still, Riley wants firsthand knowledge of first-round players.
“I’m not saying someone else can’t do it a better way, but I like to see the top prospects,” Riley said. “Some guys are better at evaluating film, but I don’t want to be a victim of what the camera shows you. Is it valuable? Heavens, yes, but to me, film is the follow-up.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/22/SPBO1IH4OJ.DTL#ixzz1EpN6BhM3
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I’ve heard stories where Al Davis would also measure the calf’s of the mother of a prospective draft choice. How can a 81year old wheelchair bound man be a General Manager of a professional sports franchise?
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Why did the Raiders just outright cancel Nnamdi”s contract? Wouldn’t if have made sense to retain his rights and then possibly trade him to a team willing to negotiate a long-term deal?
Losing the guy for nothing is absolutely ridiculous. They should have been able to eek out a 2nd round pick for the guy.
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
It seems that this strike has led some of the Leagues premier players to go to drastic measures.
This just in::::
Chad Ochocinco had a tryout today with the Sporting Kansas City of the Major League Soccer team!
I’m thinking Al turned him down and he’s starting a new lease on life…..Loser!
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Yes they should…take COA’s advise that is…
March 23rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
There hasn’t been a peep out of Oakland. Davis, relegated to the background in part because he helped push forward the 2006 agreement which is the root cause of all the disagreement about how best to divide $9 billion, has had nothing to say.
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How the NFL and other owners staged this lock out and to blame Coach Davis for being the root cause is heresy.
The other owners and the NFL wants to blame Coach so the rest of the world won’t look at them and wonder how stupid you have to be for not being able to divide 9 billion big ones when the rest of the planet is going down the toilet right before their very own eyes.
Blame the root cause on Coach Davis if you like, but just remember he’s not the commisioner. You have a commisioner so things keep moving, not locking the doors.
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KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I’ve heard stories where Al Davis would also measure the calf’s of the mother of a prospective draft choice.
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Good one. I’ve heard stories too that are just unfounded rumors to try and discredit someone. I’ve heard stories about you KK, but I don’t believe them, because there are no pictures or video. I don’t even know you. Unless you have proof, pictures or video of Coach Davis doing this, what your saying is just rumor. But until you show me the proof, I’m not buying it one bit.
March 23rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Al Davis is light years ahead of any NFL owner.
80 plus years doing what you love; great way the live a life.
Millionaire, a mind as sharp as a sharks tooth, owner of one of the NFL’s winningest franchise’s, boat load of Raider players in the hall of fame. We should all be so lucky!
March 23rd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
This blog is posting me an hour behind, east coast here!
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
We need Huff back. He’s borderline Pro Bowler and hitting his prime. Huff will be a Pro Bowl safety within the next two seasons.
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Well, I’m not sure if you saw it, but on Monday the 17th of January, Al Davis, owner and withered fist of the Oakland Raiders, held what is certain to be the most bizarre and unworldly press conference in the history of sports. Now, all football fans know the lore of Al Davis; the “Just win, baby,” “glory of the Raider Nation” sis-boom-bah. By that same token, all football fans also know Al Davis to be the ultimate elderly power stroke; the decrepit Crypt Keeper reigning thunder and doom from a luxury box wheelchair, single-handedly pile-driving his team into the ground season after season by insistently operating as Dark Lord Raider, leaving Oakland the only franchise in American professional sports without a general manager.
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Post 24,HayesDaze37, Yes Lester,every day is a great day being a RAIDER FAN! Oh,and Dakotas post 30,prior post,also Dead on!This should NOT be that hard to work out!Rookie salary cap,take care of PRIOR Service players,and stay with the sixteen game reg season,period!Its GOT TO HAPPEN,so much money and league status involved! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Catching up in the last post and I found this gem.
Constantly playing the victim and casting blame for your own limitations, is no way to go through life.
No one is more racist than an old black man.
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# KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Since the Tax-payers aren’t funding NFL Stadiums anymore, The Owners, half of whom inherited their Teams & wealth, want to shortstop the Players to finance their stadiums.
Rush Limbaugh and AM radio manipulate po-white trash out in the booneys, who hate black people in the first place, and get them to tap into their hatreds for the benefit of the Owners.
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
(I know…most of you couldn’t answer that, even if you wanted to…this is one screwed-up blog right now. And yesterday. And the day before. And…)
SnB — The Raiders didn’t just cancel Nnamdi’s contract. His contract voided automatically…because he didn’t meet any one of a number of “easy” incentives that would have automatically kicked-in this year’s big $$. Too late to fix a clause like that.
860TC — The blog’s not posting you an hour behind…you’re just that much faster than anyone else..?
And…Al Davis IS light years ahead of all other Owners. Even in his old age, the other Owners would exclude his counsel at their, and the League’s peril.
Greatest GM ever? Nah, but not for a lack of trying. greatest Owner ever? To me, yes…and rightfully arguable…but we all know that no other Owner even comes close to Al in terms of knowledge of the game, scouting Players, or dealing with Labor Relations and contract issues.
Al Davis is the total package, even in his Silver years. If there is a log-jam during the next go of negotiations, you can bet Al will be among the Owners to get it un-jammed. Nowhere near panic time yet, but it’s definitely time to get this thing done.
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Al Davis at NFLPA negotiations, seriously? I don’t think so.
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But Monday’s antics take the cake. Forget that this event was supposedly called to introduce Hue Jackson as the Raiders new head coach; Jackson was incidental. This was Big Al’s first press conference in 16 months, and the 81-year-old New Englander did not disappoint, fumbling and mumbling his way through the proceedings like an anesthetized goat. His near nine-minute spiel on the firing of head coach Tom Cable was so protracted and confused, so painstakingly puzzled, it was as if an old man let loose from the dementia ward of a 19th century sanatorium had wandered up to the podium..
http://synthesis.net/2011/01/25/al-davis-is-a-hideous-freak/
March 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
17.SnB Production Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Why did the Raiders just outright cancel Nnamdi”s contract? Wouldn’t if have made sense to retain his rights and then possibly trade him to a team willing to negotiate a long-term deal?
Losing the guy for nothing is absolutely ridiculous. They should have been able to eek out a 2nd round pick for the guy.
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We would get a 3rd next year if he is lost in FA.
In other news… I clicked the link for Huff’s twitter posts and he spends waaaaaaay too much time on there!
March 23rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
KoolKell,why do you ENJOY bashing Al Davis? Im not going to recite Mr Davis history,we all know it!Think youve got a MENTAL problem when you focus on his appearance,he is,after all 80 years old,what you goin look like at 80,If you make it! As far as his mental capacity,Ive got a paycheck on Al vs YOU on ANY football related issue,or for that matter,any History topic! Just Sayin, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:01 pm
WORDPRESS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:01 pm
The Raiders need to figure out one thing in the offseason.
How do we stop the run?
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
As long as Kool Kell bashes Coach Davis, I will champion Coaches endeavors. Kool Kell has been my inspiration to do so.
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
sweaters
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
As long as Kool Kell bashes Coach Davis, I will champion Coaches endeavors. Kool Kell has been my inspiration to do so.
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How pathetic
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
F the Players, and F the 31 other NFL owners!
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
31, I POSTED AT 8-03PM, THREE POSTS A WASTE OF TIME! FIX THE BLOG,JERRY AND IBAYAREA NEWS GROUP! its DAY LIGHT SAVINGS TIME,SPRING FORWARD,SIMPLE ONE HOUR DIFFERENCE
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I’ve seen many 80 year olders in my time and appearance aside very few could compete with Mr Davis in terms of energy and competence and fighting spirit. No one in this league wants to win as badly as he does.
His every waking moment is dedicated to this team. There never have been anyone that I can think of who desired his team to be the best that it can be. Human frailties have robbed him of a lot, his mistakes and imperfections are evident. But it never stops him from giving everything he has. Good and bad…
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Al DavisMMS he gets all the help he needs he has more people helping him now than he ever has. It’s just that fans aren’t privy to that info. This is the NFL it’s very difficult to biuld teams and win, in time we will it’s just a matter of time…………..period
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
24.KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
, leaving Oakland the only franchise in American professional sports without a general manager.
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Cincinnati and Dallas don’t have general managers, so that hardly qualifies that sentence to be true. On the contrary, its a fabricated untruth to discredit Coach Davis.
And besides, Coach can be the general manager if he feels like it, and he probably is the general manager like everyone says he is. Another untruth to that sentence.
Its Coach Davis’ team. Get over it, conspirator.
March 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
35.KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
As long as Kool Kell bashes Coach Davis, I will champion Coaches endeavors. Kool Kell has been my inspiration to do so.
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How pathetic
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Siento mucho lo que el médico le dijo a dejar de masturbarse para que pudiera terminar su examen durante su chequeo anual. Eso debe haber sido vergonzoso. El entrenador Davis es vergüenza para usted también.
March 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
24.KoolKell Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Well, I’m not sure if you saw it, but on Monday the 17th of January, Al Davis, owner and withered fist of the Oakland Raiders, held what is certain to be the most bizarre and unworldly press conference in the history of sports. Now, all football fans know the lore of Al Davis; the “Just win, baby,” “glory of the Raider Nation” sis-boom-bah. By that same token, all football fans also know Al Davis to be the ultimate elderly power stroke; the decrepit Crypt Keeper reigning thunder and doom from a luxury box wheelchair, single-handedly pile-driving his team into the ground season after season by insistently operating as Dark Lord Raider, leaving Oakland the only franchise in American professional sports without a general manager.
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May I ask what source you are quoting this from?
March 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I simply want to ask KK a question,when have you PAID for Raider tickets OR attended a game? After all,youre just a few miles away in Alameda, and you cry that Raider games arent on TV! Youre MUCH of the problem,you cant see that? Whatever,RAIDERS!! OUT
March 23rd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
“…leaving Oakland the only franchise in American professional sports without a general manager.”
Duh…
Al Davis can call himself whatever he wants to, and do with his team whatever he wants to. He’s Al Davis. I’m sure it bothers him NOT that somebody doesn’t like his official title.
What matters is what The Man has done for his League and his Team…and what he still is doing, and is yet to do.
Aren’t too many “official” GM’s out there who’ve done a noticeably better job than Al Davis has since the Lance Kiffen, umm, era. His team has clawed itself out of the abyss, and is ready for greater success.
PHRASE FOR THE NIGHT: De Facto.
As in…Al Davis is not only the Managing Partner of the Oakland Raiders, he is the team’s De Facto GM.
Just the way it should be!
March 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Señor Kell de Hielo, Voy a salir ahora, pero en el futuro, por favor, ser amable con El Entrenador Davis. Es viejo y frágil, pero es dueño de los Raiders de Oakland. No es muy amable de su parte para ser tan duro con él. Deja que tu compasión ser mayor que el odio de él. Todos somos hijos de Dios ‘, jóvenes y viejos. Mis disculpas por mis comentarios groseros. Adiós mi amigo.
March 24th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Good Morning Buckeye! Yeah, like Al says….nobody cares about the blog anymore I guess until they hear news that the season is on!
March 24th, 2011 at 7:20 am
G’mornin fellas.
err…fellas? Hello…anybody out there?
March 24th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Yesterday I was posting fine, and the time stamp was correct with dst in tact. Today, it’s broken again! Who knows…
March 24th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Al Davis will save the NFL again.
March 24th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Sup buckeye… I think this blog is dead… lol
March 24th, 2011 at 8:32 am
What are the chances Al jumps into the 1st rnd ? You can trade future draft picks still.
March 24th, 2011 at 8:34 am
The problem is who would be worth a no. 1 pick in 2012??
March 24th, 2011 at 8:34 am
The problem is who would be worth a no. 1 pick in 2012??
March 24th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Rush Limbaugh and AM radio manipulate po-white trash out in the booneys, who hate black people in the first place, and get them to tap into their hatreds for the benefit of the Owners.
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LOL @ Kell
meltdown time, eh?
March 24th, 2011 at 8:38 am
‘Morning Hwnrdr and BCZ,
Where’s the rest of the A.M. crew? Are they sleepin in or on strike until Jerry has his IT guys fix this damn thing.lol.
March 24th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I give up… half my posts just dont even show up. FIX THE BLOG JER
March 24th, 2011 at 9:14 am
The lack of real football news is driving me batty.
March 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Anyone out there know what Jerry’s e-mail address is?
We need to fill up his inbox, so that he will see that this gets fixed..
Thanks in advance..
Posted @ 10:41am PDT
March 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Huff did improve this year, he was decent. he made some huge plays in a couple of games, he also made some terrible mistakes. Huff is however expendable. The horrid safety play we have seen over that past several season has skewed our perspective. He is not in my view a probowl or great player, although solid is a word I would use to describe his season last year. losing him will not cripple our secondary the way people believe.
March 24th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I emailed JerryMac, left messages at the paper, with the editors etc. Fix the blog please.
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This time of year, they lock-down the blog, Ban a lot of people, in order to keep the anti-Davis rhetoric down.
It’s season-ticket selling season.
March 24th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I emailed JerryMac, left messages at the paper, with the editors etc. Fix the blog please.
March 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
pete prisco says he expects DHB to make a major jump in production this year, I agree. he improved last season over his rookie season, even if it wasnt the leap we would have hoped for. i think he shows up big time this year.
March 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am
How can a 81year old wheelchair bound man be a General Manager of a professional sports franchise?
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hates old people, hates white people, hates handi-capped people, hates the Raiders and hates America
Hmmmmm
I’d love to hear the dinner conversation at Sizzler when Kell’s wife takes him out after she gets off work. Ranting about who said what on this blog, defending Al Davis. LOL. she must be a patient woman. she’d have to be and she deserves better – no matter what Dakota says about her bowl cut!
March 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am
52.Lynn from Snot Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 8:34 am
The problem is who would be worth a no. 1 pick in 2012??
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For the Raiders….I would love to see them trade up for DE/OLB Beast Ryan Kerrigan.
On the OL..trading up to get Pouncey would be good.
March 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I don’t know about drafting a q
March 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think G/RT Marcus Cannon, G/RT Ben Ijalana, and C/G Stefan Wisnewski should be targeted by the Raiders with that 2nd Round pick!
1 of the 3 if not 2 out of the 3 should definitely be there in Round 2 for the Raiders to pick.
March 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Agreed… Al Needs to sign Huff.. For the most part Huff played pretty good last year and should get better…also think Al will work out a deal with Nnamdi…settle the lockout…
March 24th, 2011 at 11:08 am
# DKnight007 Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think G/RT Marcus Cannon, G/RT Ben Ijalana, and C/G Stefan Wisnewski should be targeted by the Raiders with that 2nd Round pick!
1 of the 3 if not 2 out of the 3 should definitely be there in Round 2 for the Raiders to pick.
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Agreed. If all of those guys are off the board somehow, CB Curtis Brown and OLB Mason Foster could make sense. But if any of the three guys you mentioned are there, the Raiders should absolutely take them.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Lynn,
There seems to be growing speculation out there that the Raiders might be interested in drafting a young QB to develop.
The Sporting News has them taking FSU’s Christian Ponder with their 2nd. NFLN has his stock rising into possible late 1st.
Seems like somebody mentioned a rumor about Oakland possibly having interest in trading up for Jake Locker.
Kaepernick sounds like an intriguing prospect, also. It seems as if his stock is rising, from a 3rd rd grade to early 2/late rd1.
If somebody they like slides to say NE @ 28, I could see Al swinging a deal with his old trading partner Belicheat.
Might not be a bad idea either, IMO. Have somebody sit behind JC for a year or two.
Although I would like to see them go heavy O-line this year. They need one and possibly two starters from the likes of Cannon, Moffit, Wiz 2.0 or Orlando Franklin.
Luckily for them, it seems like this is a fairly deep draft for O-lineman.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:23 am
66.YoungAmerican Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:08 am
# DKnight007 Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think G/RT Marcus Cannon, G/RT Ben Ijalana, and C/G Stefan Wisnewski should be targeted by the Raiders with that 2nd Round pick!
1 of the 3 if not 2 out of the 3 should definitely be there in Round 2 for the Raiders to pick.
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Agreed. If all of those guys are off the board somehow, CB Curtis Brown and OLB Mason Foster could make sense. But if any of the three guys you mentioned are there, the Raiders should absolutely take them.
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NO CB or S with that 2nd Round pick….it wouild be a waste pick.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:25 am
67.Buckeyeraider Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Lynn,
There seems to be growing speculation out there that the Raiders might be interested in drafting a young QB to develop.
The Sporting News has them taking FSU’s Christian Ponder with their 2nd. NFLN has his stock rising into possible late 1st.
Seems like somebody mentioned a rumor about Oakland possibly having interest in trading up for Jake Locker.
Kaepernick sounds like an intriguing prospect, also. It seems as if his stock is rising, from a 3rd rd grade to early 2/late rd1.
If somebody they like slides to say NE @ 28, I could see Al swinging a deal with his old trading partner Belicheat.
Might not be a bad idea either, IMO. Have somebody sit behind JC for a year or two.
Although I would like to see them go heavy O-line this year. They need one and possibly two starters from the likes of Cannon, Moffit, Wiz 2.0 or Orlando Franklin.
Luckily for them, it seems like this is a fairly deep draft for O-lineman.
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I’m not high on Ponder.
Rather have Locker, Mallet or Kaepernick.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Raider QB Draft Picks since 1989:
Jamarcus Russell 07′
Billy Joe Hobert 93′
Todd Marinovich 91′
Major Harris 90′
Jeff Francis 89′
Those Developed: Zero.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
65.fingers Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Agreed… Al Needs to sign Huff.. For the most part Huff played pretty good last year and should get better…also think Al will work out a deal with Nnamdi…settle the lockout…
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My view is that the old man Al needs to keep either Nnamdi or Huff.
At least one of the two would are important to keep!
March 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
70.KoolKell Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Raider QB Draft Picks since 1989:
Jamarcus Russell 07′
Billy Joe Hobert 93′
Todd Marinovich 91′
Major Harris 90′
Jeff Francis 89′
Those Developed: Zero.
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And one of the main reasons why they can’t develop a young QB, is because of the revolving door with the Head Coach.
Offensive systems and terminology is constantly being changed and that mind screws young QB’s.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Raider QB Draft Picks since 1989:
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what about Eldridge Dickey?
March 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am
post #63 (by me) was actually posted at 1:35 Central or 11:35 PST
March 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Even taking Kaepernick with that 2nd Round pick would be too high for the Raiders IMO.
They need a player who can contribute right away with that pick.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am
one of the main reasons why they can’t develop a young QB, is because of the revolving door with the Head Coach.
Offensive systems and terminology is constantly being changed and that mind screws young QB’s.
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co-sign.
somebody print that!
March 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am
pete prisco says he expects DHB to make a major jump in production this year
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he must have read this article:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/06/13/raiders-say-i-told-you-so-on-dhb/
March 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I don’t know that drafting a QB is the biggest need. DB and O -line need an upgrade and if Al sees a player he likes he might swing a deal. I would prefer another draft like last year, taking players that can help right away instead of projects or big upside down the road.
March 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Even taking Kaepernick with that 2nd Round pick would be too high for the Raiders IMO.
They need a player who can contribute right away with that pick.
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you’re looking at OL & DB in Round 2 – probably the best available prospect left on the board to fit on of those positions
Otherwise we’ll have guys like Mitchell, CJ37, Loper & Walker in the starting line-up
Jason Campbell may be the worst starting QB in the AFC West stats wise, but he was good enough to go 6-0 in those games last year. He’ll stick for at least another season
He’s only two 2 voices in his ear this season instead of 4. Jackson & Saunders. Last season it was Cable, Jackson, Tollner & Hackett. Grads wont be around to “push” him for that starting job either. Sounds like we’re pretty content with Kyle Boller as #2
March 24th, 2011 at 11:49 am
RR
Can we give Campbell a full season before we start calling for another signal caller?
March 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I don’t know that drafting a QB is the biggest need. DB and O -line need an upgrade
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Lynn and I are on the same page in regards to the draft
and yes. JC gets this year to prove or re-prove his worth to the Oakland Raiders and their fans!
March 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Kell,
That is a valid point. They have not had success in developing young QB’s. So, do you think they should never try gain? I don’t buy that.
To be fair to the Raiders, the two first rounders they drafted were mostly undone by their own personal demons.
The Raiders have a bright, charismatic offensive mind in HC Hue Jackson. They also have a widely respected veteran coach in Al Saunders. Hopefully they are on the verge of winning again in Oakland.
This organization desperately needs some stability and continuity on it’s coaching staff. The constant turmoil and turnover have ruined many a young career, not just QB’s.
I’d like to be optimistic and think the Raiders have a talented young roster and are about to go on another nice lil run. Maybe HueJax can last five years or more and develop a young QB for the future. Sounds good to me.
March 24th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Maybe HueJax can last five years or more and develop a young QB for the future
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Buckeye,
Tom Cable won 8 games last year and that wasn’t enough. Hue Jackson better start his Raiders HC tenure with 8 or more wins and be the serious contender in the playoffs by NEXT (2012) season if he wants to keep his job
developing QB’s usually starts with a few losing seasons, unless you can sit the rookie behind a solid vet QB for a few years or you draft an absolute stud that starts winning out of the gate … and I don’t see that happening with this current WR & OL group of players
March 24th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
looking at the production at WR. Kaliff Barnes had as many TDs as DHB . Getting the ball to the receivers is the biggest task this season . Millers 5 tds led the team that has to change to win.
March 24th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Whoda guessed that Coach Davis is a leg man. Heard that he gives special preference to the progeny of moms who have “cankles.” Apparently improves their cutting skills.
March 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I’d like to be optimistic and think the Raiders have a talented young roster and are about to go on another nice lil run. Maybe HueJax can last five years or more and develop a young QB for the future. Sounds good to me.
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Sure, I’d like to be optimistic too despite 5 head coaches in the last 8 years, 11 head coaches in the last 22 years, but I can’t keep my head up my arse forever, either
Al Davis thinks he’s making a run this year, if he doesn’t, for whatever reason, HueJax will be gone, too.
March 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
The Raiders haven’t had any recent success developing quarterbacks, but Hue Jackson certainly has. I think it’s likely that a young QB is drafted and fan fave Gradkowski is cut.
March 24th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
# KoolKell Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
This is frustrating. I think I’m done until they can get this site fixed.
How are you supposed to carry on a conversation or respond to somebody if it won’t let you post for 15-20 minutes?
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Jerry doesn’t want any of the “back & forth” as he calls it. Expecially this time of year, when the Raiders are trying to sell season-tickets.
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Not sure which comment is more pathetic.
Saying Jerry doesn’t want back and forth, which is the only thing that keeps a blog alive, or the especially this time of year when Raiders are trying to sell season tickets, silly take.
It’s a blog glitch, numbskull. It’s not by design.
Who would sabotage their own blog, on purpose?
March 24th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
NO CB or S with that 2nd Round pick….it wouild be a waste pick.
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In what way?
Personally I don’t think there are many CBs in the draft worth the Raiders 2nd rounder. Burton and House might be good fits, but would make better mid-round picks as they likely wouldn’t be able to help right away. Smith and Harris might be good, but there’s too big of a “boom or bust” risk with either of those guys.
I believe that Curtis Brown, however, is going to be a steal if he’s around in the second round. Fluid athlete, VERY solid tackler, has ideal size for a cover corner, and may even be able to help at S as well as CB… both of which are positions of need.
Like I said, if Cannon, Ijalana and Wiz aren’t on the board when the Raiders pick, Curtis Brown would be a tremendous pick.
I simply don’t get it when people rule out drafting any position in a certain round. Especially when you’re a team with as many holes to fill as the Raiders, and ESPECIALLY when you have no first-round pick, you have to go with the best player on the board.
If you start drafting based solely on what you perceive your team’s needs are, you’re walking a dangerous line. If you whiff on a pick, you not only still need to fill whatever need you were trying to fill, but you don’t even have a player who can help your team in any way.
March 24th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
This is frustrating. I think I’m done until they can get this site fixed.
How are you supposed to carry on a conversation or respond to somebody if it won’t let you post for 15-20 minutes?
I’m tired of typing a post hitting submit…and being told to slow down. BS.
If you do get a post through, half the time they’re out of order. Making it damn near impossible to follow the thread. Geez.
I’ll check back later.
Adios amigos.
March 24th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
This is frustrating. I think I’m done until they can get this site fixed.
How are you supposed to carry on a conversation or respond to somebody if it won’t let you post for 15-20 minutes?
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Jerry doesn’t want any of the “back & forth” as he calls it. Expecially this time of year, when the Raiders are trying to sell season-tickets.
March 24th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Something tells me some team is going to take a chance on Harris in the 1st round. Seems like a good player. Not sure how good of a fit he would be for the Raiders, but he’ll probably be out of their reach anyway.
March 24th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
hello
March 24th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
testing
March 24th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Dakota,
I cant post from home. I think it has something to do with my IP address.
FREE RAIDER O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Keep having to log back on…yep, that will slow ya down
March 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
we should draft CB B Harris or Ras Dowling in the 2nd, if we dont resign Nnmadi.
March 24th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
B Harris is a beast!I think he is just as good as Price and Peterson. he just doesnt have their size.
March 24th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
FREE RAIDER O!!!!!
March 24th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I simply don’t get it when people rule out drafting any position in a certain round. Especially when you’re a team with as many holes to fill as the Raiders, and ESPECIALLY when you have no first-round pick
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YA,
what are you talking about, man?
the Raiders are only 3 OL and 3 WR away from another Super Bowl appearance!
March 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.
March 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
is seriuosly wondering right now who the hel is actually running this war ..Hillary or O..bama? This has to be the strangest war/process I have witnessed ..just the whole thing ..wierd. How the hel do you prosecute a war without taking out the target? Strange.
And now that want to pretend we’re not leading this war? First of all, who else is going to lead it? Who else has the iron fist? Second, switching command to NATO is a farse …we control NATO …its such a cluster fu’k.
Anyways …not much going on in raiderland i suppose…not much going on in the nfl for that matter.
March 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
GO AZTECS!!!!!!
GO AZTECS!!!!!!!
damn you UCONN!!!!!!
March 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
99.FinanceO Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
we should draft CB B Harris or Ras Dowling in the 2nd, if we dont resign Nnmadi.
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Uhh, if they lose Nnamdi, then that means the old man Al and Huey don’t value a cover corner…sooooooo….
Why the hell waste a 2nd Round pick on a freakin CB and HOPE he can replace Nnamdi??
That makes zero sense, plus that rookie would have to compete with CJ, Routt, McFadden and Ware for playing time?
I want a BEAST type of STARTER who can make an impact right away on the O-Line, D-Line or at the OLB spot!
March 24th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
is seriuosly wondering right now who the hel is actually running this war ..Hillary or O..bama? This has to be the strangest war/process I have witnessed ..just the whole thing ..wierd. How the hel do you prosecute a war without taking out the target? Strange.
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Being a Republican, you wouldn’t know anything about successful international affairs.
March 24th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
In what way?
Personally I don’t think there are many CBs in the draft worth the Raiders 2nd rounder. Burton and House might be good fits, but would make better mid-round picks as they likely wouldn’t be able to help right away. Smith and Harris might be good, but there’s too big of a “boom or bust” risk with either of those guys.
I believe that Curtis Brown, however, is going to be a steal if he’s around in the second round. Fluid athlete, VERY solid tackler, has ideal size for a cover corner, and may even be able to help at S as well as CB… both of which are positions of need.
Like I said, if Cannon, Ijalana and Wiz aren’t on the board when the Raiders pick, Curtis Brown would be a tremendous pick.
I simply don’t get it when people rule out drafting any position in a certain round. Especially when you’re a team with as many holes to fill as the Raiders, and ESPECIALLY when you have no first-round pick, you have to go with the best player on the board.
If you start drafting based solely on what you perceive your team’s needs are, you’re walking a dangerous line. If you whiff on a pick, you not only still need to fill whatever need you were trying to fill, but you don’t even have a player who can help your team in any way.
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Well, let me explain it….again.
If they let Nnamdi walk, then that means the Old man Al and Huey don’t value a cover corner…as good as he is.
Why the hell waste a 2nd Round pick on a freakin CB and HOPE he can replace Nnamdi??
That makes zero sense, plus that rookie would have to compete with CJ, Routt, McFadden and Ware for playing time?
I want a BEAST type of STARTER who can make an impact right away on the O-Line, D-Line or at the OLB spot!
Making the the LINES and LB positions stronger are important than wasting early picks on a CB.
Plenty of CB’s can be picked in the later rounds from 5-7 to compete with the other guys at the CB spots.
March 24th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
I value O-Line, D-Line and LB’s ahead of CB’s….any day of the week.
The Raiders should have learned there lesson from past mistakes by taking DB’s early like Buchanon, Gibson, Fabian.
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You’re not the GM, though. But, I reckon Hue Jackson will have a relatively large hand in this year’s draft.
He’d better win this year, or he’s gone and DB’s will be drafted with every pick from now on.
March 24th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
This post is at 9:38pm EST……….UCONN!
March 24th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
4 hr delay on posting??????
March 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Im posting in a blazing speed, Huh? If whomever came up with That saw me type, they would FIRE THEMSELVES!!!! raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Anyone want the lottery numbers???? LOL
Posted at 6:44pm Calli time!
March 24th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
There are just as many interior linemen and linebackers to be found in the mid rounds as there are CBs.
If Nnamdi isn’t re-signed, I doubt it’s because the new coaching regime doesn’t value CBs. Moreover, whoever comes in isn’t going to replace Nnamdi.
You want a beast starter on the d-line? He’ll have to compete with Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Henderson, Houston, and Shaughnessy. So why does that make any more sense than taking a CB? It’s not like CJ or McFadden have the starting job across from Routt locked down.
It makes no sense to rule out any particular position in any given round. None whatsoever. Especially when you’re short on picks, you take the best player available.
If Cannon, Ijalana and Wiz are gone, then Curtis Brown, Mason Foster, Stephen Paea, and Aaron Williams should all be in play.
Makes no difference what their position is to me. Find the best player on the board, and find a way to get them on the field so they can contribute.
March 24th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
110.YoungAmerican Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
There are just as many interior linemen and linebackers to be found in the mid rounds as there are CBs.
If Nnamdi isn’t re-signed, I doubt it’s because the new coaching regime doesn’t value CBs. Moreover, whoever comes in isn’t going to replace Nnamdi.
You want a beast starter on the d-line? He’ll have to compete with Seymour, Kelly, Bryant, Henderson, Houston, and Shaughnessy. So why does that make any more sense than taking a CB? It’s not like CJ or McFadden have the starting job across from Routt locked down.
It makes no sense to rule out any particular position in any given round. None whatsoever. Especially when you’re short on picks, you take the best player available.
If Cannon, Ijalana and Wiz are gone, then Curtis Brown, Mason Foster, Stephen Paea, and Aaron Williams should all be in play.
Makes no difference what their position is to me. Find the best player on the board, and find a way to get them on the field so they can contribute.
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IMO, Big John is on his last legs, he might not even make it through training camp (whenever that starts) he only played in a handful of games last year.
I value O-Line, D-Line and LB’s ahead of CB’s….any day of the week.
The Raiders should have learned there lesson from past mistakes by taking DB’s early like Buchanon, Gibson, Fabian.
March 24th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
IMO, Big John is on his last legs, he might not even make it through training camp (whenever that starts) he only played in a handful of games last year.
I value O-Line, D-Line and LB’s ahead of CB’s….any day of the week.
The Raiders should have learned there lesson from past mistakes by taking DB’s early like Buchanon, Gibson, Fabian.
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I don’t think Henderson is on his last legs (apparently neither do the Raiders, who just gave him $8 million for two seasons), but I do think the Raiders would do well to draft a guy who could be an eventual replacement for him. But even then, the guy they draft isn’t going to start.
The lesson they should learn from drafting Buchannon and Washington is that if they’re going to draft CBs, he better be a guy who can play man-to-man. But just because you strike out a couple times at a position in the draft doesn’t mean you never try again. If that were the case, there aren’t many positions left that the Raiders could draft.
March 24th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
You knolw it’s PC to say you favor less skill positions over skilled like DB’s but try going through a season with a bunch of bad DB’s and see how far you get. You cannot have enough DB’s because all they do is run run and run. It’s true you need the big guys up front, no one values pressure up front more than I do but if you can’t cover you’re dead.
March 24th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
118.KoolKell Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Free Agency started 22 years ago in 1989.
Oakland Raiders:
11 Head Coaches in the last 22 years
11 Quarterbacks in the last 22 years
7 Playoff appearances in the last 22 years.
Wouldn’t you think a sane, competent General Manager, would realize that’s not the way to go, especially in light of their lack of success?
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The fact we have been to the playoffs 7 times in spite of the NFLs’ consorted attempts to keep the Raiders down only goes to show the resiliency of Coach Davis. When Coach breaks the conspiracy open this year and recieves the Lombardi, hopefully you will put that 22 year stuff to rest.
March 24th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Free Agency started 22 years ago in 1989.
Oakland Raiders:
11 Head Coaches in the last 22 years
11 Quarterbacks in the last 22 years
7 Playoff appearances in the last 22 years.
Wouldn’t you think a sane, competent General Manager, would realize that’s not the way to go, especially in light of their lack of success?
March 24th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The kid from Baylor: Danny Watkins is high on my list of wants I really like this kid and his makeup even moreso. He is one nasty dude and has the tools to fill the gap that Gallery left. There’s another kid from Georgia also named Boiling who’s really good. I like them both better than Wiz kid.
March 24th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
The only problem with Watkins is that he’s 27. Boling could be a very good player, though. He’s had experience at OT, too.
March 24th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Capitalism may be to blame for the lack of life on the planet Mars, Venezuela’s socialist President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday.
“I have always said, heard, that it would not be strange that there had been civilization on Mars, but maybe capitalism arrived there, imperialism arrived and finished off the planet,” Chavez said in speech to mark World Water Day.
Chavez, who also holds capitalism responsible for many of the world’s problems, warned that water supplies on Earth were drying up.
“Careful! Here on planet Earth where hundreds of years ago or less there were great forests, now there are deserts. Where there were rivers, there are deserts,” Chavez said, sipping from a glass of water.
He added that the West’s attacks on Libya were about water and oil reserves.
Earlier this month, the U.S. National Research Council recommended that NASA’s top priority should be a robot to help determine whether Mars ever supported life and offer insight on its geological and climatic history.
It would also be the first step in an effort to get samples from Mars back to Earth.
A NASA team recently tested a space suit in a setting with extreme conditions akin to some of those found on Mars — an Argentine base in Antarctica — for possible use on a visit to the Red Planet
March 24th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
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March 24th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Posted @ 11:40pm EST, Duke is collapsing, see ya!
March 24th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
The Ref’s are trying soooo hard to keep them in it, sound familar????????
March 24th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Señor Kell de Hielo,
El Entrenador Davis desea que pare el hablar mal. El Entrenador tiene muchos problemas para resolver, y no está ayudando. Así que por favor sean amables. Gracias
March 24th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
36.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 8:05 pm
F the Players, and F the 31 other NFL owners!
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Exactly. There’s only one Individual who deserves praise for the way he’s handled himself through all this mess……COACH!
March 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Coach Davis has a mountain of respect. Former players and coaches, owners around the league, and many others whom he’s never even met. He’s done more for the game of football than anyone else. Coaches record of service to the NFL will never be broken, as these days people just can’t go the distance anymore. Just look at all these failed attempts by different people who wanted to start wanna be football leagues. They all failed. Coach started the NFL, and if decent people, instead of conspirators, ran the NFL today, there would be no lock out. And all kool kell can do is rag Coach.
Some men are an island, while others are the ocean. If you can’t swim, get out of the ocean. Coach Davis has swam the distance.
March 24th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Davis has done a lot for the rest of the teams in the league the last eight years.
He has made them winners!
March 25th, 2011 at 4:35 am
FinanceO Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
we should draft CB B Harris or Ras Dowling in the 2nd, if we dont resign Nnmadi.
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Too bad we wont have any clue if Nnamdi stays or goes before the draft.
March 25th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!
LMFAO! Get this place fixed.
March 25th, 2011 at 6:41 am
union must somehow find a win-win
Posted by Mike Florio on March 24, 2011, 10:53 PM EDT
APIt sounds simple and obvious. To solve the current labor dispute, the NFL and the players must find a way to bridge their divide while also being able to sell victory to their constituents.
The first task, as men like Robert Kraft and Mike Vrabel and most recently Fran Tarkenton have pointed out, is to get the lawyers out of the process. Lawyers have a way of mesmerizing their clients into adopting strategies that, coincidentally, result in the lawyers milking the cow until dust comes out.
If the two sides can blaze a trail back to the table, with the lawyers taking a back seat to the business people, the challenge will be to carve the soon-to-be-11-figure pie in a way that lets the players believe they’re being fairly compensated while at the same time allowing the owners to believe they’re raking in a fair profit.
The players believe a perpetual 50-50 split is fair; the owners apparently believe that, at a certain point, 50-50 results in way too many dollars for the men who play the game — especially since the owners must run their businesses and build their stadiums and derive their margins from the other 50 percent.
So how do they break this logjam? For starters, the players need to start thinking in terms of total dollars, not revenue percentages. The owners’ proposal from March 11 entailed hard numbers based on projected revenue growth. If the league fails to meet those goals, the players still get their money. The problem arises when the league exceeds the projections on which the hard numbers are based.
The players weren’t happy that the league’s proposal omitted that term. The league believes the term is negotiable, and that the players should respond with a counter.
They should. Give the owners the first chunk of the overage, as the two sides had been discussing. Then split the money for another segment of the excess. Above that, reduce the percentage that goes to the players progressively, giving them a perpetual piece of the upside but also reserving the bulk of the fruits of any significant spikes to the owners.
In the end, the players need to look at the total dollars, because the total dollars will continue to grow. And, in fairness, the players generate only so much of the total growth of the league. It’s the league, not the players, that is constantly looking for ways to enhance revenue via business ideas that cost money to implement. Though the players play a game that can’t be played without them, the owners position the playing of that game to generate the most possible money for everyone.
And while the owners also enjoy increases in the value of their franchises, the two sides could devise some sort of a device for paying to the players a fixed percentage of any sale of equity by an owner.
What’s the right percentage? That’s for the two sides to figure out. And that process can’t happen until they find a way to act like adults and sit down and engage in a free exchange of ideas aimed at securing the future of the sport.
We’ve said many times that the owners and players are the stewards of the game. And many have assumed that the two sides eventually will wake up and get it done, given that role.
We’re not prepared to conclude that the parties will eventually get smart and get it done, in large part because neither side has done much of late to make us think they’re capable of doing so. They can change our minds by setting aside egos and agendas and legal strategies and getting to work, not for their own good but for the good of the game.
March 25th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Good Morning Nation!!! This CBA crap sucks a**!
March 25th, 2011 at 8:58 am
I guess you don’t like KK per 139, lmfao
March 25th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Does anybody really know what Al Davis thinks about the lockout? Is he in favor? What does he want?
I think he understands this business. Other owners are less football owners and more business owners. But you need industry experience.
Anyone know if Al Davis was at the Owners Meeting in New Orleans this week?
March 25th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Al isn’t going to waste time at the owners meetings. It’s only a bunch of lawyers milking this thing for all they can. Real progress will take place when money is missed or lost.
March 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
135.Lynn from Snot Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Al isn’t going to waste time at the owners meetings. It’s only a bunch of lawyers milking this thing for all they can. Real progress will take place when money is missed or lost.
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sad but true
March 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
126.Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Señor Kell de Hielo,
El Entrenador Davis desea que pare el hablar mal. El Entrenador tiene muchos problemas para resolver, y no está ayudando. Así que por favor sean amables. Gracias
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Al menos algo entendible que leer.
(At last something I can understand). LOL
March 25th, 2011 at 9:21 am
http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2011/03/25/raiders-fan-wins-ncaa-wrestling-national-championship
March 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am
KK is the biggest f ing pus filled pile of heaving and rolling magot filled belly of an etheiopian transexual call girl. Get another f n team, cause all of Raider Nation hates your guts and wishes you nothing but ill will. If you are a fan, then I would hate to see a rival. Piss off you Al Davis trashing biggott african american lovin fuc. You know how many Spanish guys banged your mom? Lucky your name is’nt Pablo!!!!
March 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Lynn, nice post! Raiders!
March 25th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Raiderfankirk can you please be more specific and clear about your feelings for Koolkell? lol
March 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am
130.bcz24 Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 4:35 am
FinanceO Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
we should draft CB B Harris or Ras Dowling in the 2nd, if we dont resign Nnmadi.
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Too bad we wont have any clue if Nnamdi stays or goes before the draft.
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I’m wondering if signing Nnamdi 4 one year while a 2nd round DP adjusts?
I’d like Nnamdi to stay and think he will but wouldn’t mind if we picked up Ras or Jimmy Smith if he falls that far. He’s got Raider skills and I think the off field stuff is in his past and not that bad.
If Wizzer is there you may look at at taking him. Maybe…
March 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
repost
I guess you don’t like KK per 139, lmfao
March 25th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Its hard to argue with anything said here. fantastic post and well said.
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# raiderfankirk Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am
KK is the biggest f ing pus filled pile of heaving and rolling magot filled belly of an etheiopian transexual call girl. Get another f n team, cause all of Raider Nation hates your guts and wishes you nothing but ill will. If you are a fan, then I would hate to see a rival. Piss off you Al Davis trashing biggott african american lovin fuc. You know how many Spanish guys banged your mom? Lucky your name is’nt Pablo!!!!
March 25th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo, raiderfankirk & Mistabr0wn slapped Kell around pretty good the past few days. I better not add anything. Kudos to you guys for making this blog a better place!
March 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
If Nnamdi isn’t re-signed, I doubt it’s because the new coaching regime doesn’t value CBs. Moreover, whoever comes in isn’t going to replace Nnamdi.
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YA,
if Al Davis didn’t value CB’s he wouldn’t be paying Routt & CJ37 a combined $13 million next season. Mitchell & Branch are your starting safeties and AD, Inc. obviously thinks highly enough of Hiram Eugene to compete for one or both positions
I’m sure McFadden & Ware will be pushing CJ37 as well and there is nothing wrong with competition…
Hue Jax promised to build a bully and to me that means you have a Defense that can stuff the run and rush the passer. Hard to imagine being a bully and giving up 130-150 yards on the ground each week! Hue spent 2 seasons with the Baltimore Ravens and he saw a nasty defense getting it done week in & week out. Hard to imagine him not wanting the same for “his” team.
We can win football games without #21 and #24
March 25th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Getting another D tackle would go a long way in improving the rotation on the D line and also gives Seymour a chance to move around.
March 25th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RR,
Agreed. My point when saying “whoever comes in won’t replace Nnamdi” was merely that I don’t think even the coaching staff expects the next guy to have the same effect that Nnamdi does on the field.
If the Raiders don’t re-sign Nnamdi and draft a kid or sign someone in FA to play across from Routt, it’ll be because they believe the new guy is a good player in his own right. Not because they want him to be a carbon copy of Asomugha.
Personally, I’m more concerned about the FS spot than either CB spot right now. Huff is far from perfect, but Eugene isn’t half the player Huff is, and Stevie Brown is still a question mark at this point in his career.
March 25th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
IMO, Big John is on his last legs, he might not even make it through training camp (whenever that starts) he only played in a handful of games last year.
I value O-Line, D-Line and LB’s ahead of CB’s….any day of the week.
The Raiders should have learned there lesson from past mistakes by taking DB’s early like Buchanon, Gibson, Fabian.
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I don’t think Henderson is on his last legs (apparently neither do the Raiders, who just gave him $8 million for two seasons),
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Giving Big John 8 million for two seasons was another mistake. Ahem…
March 25th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
# priesttj Says:
March 24th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
You knolw it’s PC to say you favor less skill positions over skilled like DB’s but try going through a season with a bunch of bad DB’s and see how far you get. You cannot have enough DB’s because all they do is run run and run. It’s true you need the big guys up front, no one values pressure up front more than I do but if you can’t cover you’re dead.
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That’s right. So why lose the best CB in the game in Nnamdi and get nothing in return?
They already have their CB’s set with CJ, Routt, McFadden and Ware.
No need to REACH for CB in Round 2. The only one I like in Round 2 would be Jimmy Smith…but he is a head case. He is still a good value kid 2nd round pick for a CB though.