Raiders get compensatory pick at No. 240
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, March 25th, 2011 at 7:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The 240th pick in the this year’s NFL draft is unlikely to change the fortunes of the Raiders, but it adds a seventh pick to their stash this year for a fringe player or something to add in a trade if they want to move up.
Oakland was one of three teams awarded a sole compensatory pick because, in the words of an NFL release, “even though they did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents last year. Under the formula, the compensatory free agents lost by these clubs was ranked higher than the ones they signed (by a specified point differential based upon salary and performance).
And if you’ve figured that out, leave a comment and explain it to us.
The Raiders are scheduled to have picks in the second (No. 48 overall), third (No. 81), fourth (No. 113), fifth (No. 148), sixth (No. 181), and seventh (No. 218) in addition to No. 240.
(Clarification: The Raiders cannot trade the compensatory pick, but having it makes it easier to deal No. 218)
So what are we talking about at No. 240 or below overall?
Some recent and distant history of Raiders you may have heard of (Drafts were shortened to seven rounds in 1992):
2010_S Stevie Brown (seventh round, No. 251 overall)
2007_WR Jonathan Holland (seventh round, No. 254 overall)
2004_TE Courtney Anderson (seventh round, No. 245 overall)
1991_TE Andrew Glover (10th round, No. 274 overall)
1982_WR Mervyn Fernandez (10th round, No. 277 overall)
1981_FB Frank Hawkins (10th round, No. 276 overall)
1979_OT Bruce Davis (11th round, No. 294 overall)
1979_NT Reggie Kinlaw (12th round, No. 320 overall)
1977_LB Rod Martin (12th round, No. 317 overall)
1971_DE Horace Jones (12th round, No. 305 overall)
1968_FB Marv Hubbard (11th round, No. 277 overall)
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March 25th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
The comp picks system makes as much sense as why grown men can’t figure out how to divvy up $9 billion a year. If the NFL was a country they would be near the top 100 for GDP.
March 25th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
yay! More DB’s.. *sigh
March 25th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Add 20 more years to Robbin’s sentence for screwing the Nation at the Super Bowl, scumbag!
March 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Correction to Jerry’s statement above. You cannot trade Compensatory picks.
March 25th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Don’t know where he’s projected to go but Tyler Sash out of IA would be a good prospect to replace Huff if he walks. He’s a playmaker and I think he could transition to our center field role nicely. Doesn’t have Raider speed but he always seems to be around the ball and when he has the opportunity he makes the play.
March 25th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
You know you’re a lifetime Raider fan when you recognize all those names, except for Horace Jones (who?)
March 25th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Good Post Jerry:
1981_FB Frank Hawkins (10th round, No. 276 overall)
I grew up in Reno Nevada and Frank was an outstanding FB at the University of Nevada-Reno. He was on the roster when the RAIDERS won their last superbowl so many years ago.
SILVER & BLACK Forever…
March 25th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Sorry but a non-Raider draft comment.
If I were the Panthers, you just drafted Clausen, granted he played like crap, but their whole team was crap. Here’s a bold statement. I think they should take Peterson. Taking hime gives you a solid player with few holes in his game. Don’t see any of the QB’s as can’t miss prospects. Therefore, I don’t think that you take one with the #1 overall.
If anything maybe Darius at DT.
Gotta see if Clausen can be the guy while you build the rest of the team. If he still can’t do it next year than draft your qb the following year and maybe have a chance at A. Luck again. But this time around they’ll have a better team for him to come to have a better shot at being competitive in that division. Lot of variables but it’s not too hard to connect the dots.
That is assuming your draft picks pan out. In any case, my point is that I don’t see Newton and Gabbert as can’t miss guys… You don’t pick them with the #1 overall if that’s what they grade out by those teams.
March 25th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
No doubt that Coach had a good draft last year.
Coach had to make the move with Cable at the ned of the year. Once Coach knew what Cable was up to with the philandering it was too much to keep him on despite the progress of the team.
Coach knew the Raiders could of/should of done better than 8-8.
March 25th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Chargers, Browns, Cardinals, Bucs cut ticket prices
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 25, 2011, 8:45 PM EDT
At a time when NFL teams are alienating fans with a lockout, only four teams are attempting to entice fans by offering reduced-price tickets.
The Associated Press reports that four NFL teams are reducing the cost of tickets for the 2011 season: San Diego, Cleveland, Arizona and Tampa Bay.
Two other teams, the 49ers and Chiefs, are cutting some prices but raising others.
Overall, most NFL teams are saying it’s business as usual as far as ticket sales are concerned: Fans who want season tickets for any team other than the Giants will need to buy them in advance, paying now and getting refunded only if the lockout causes some games to be canceled.
Nine teams are raising ticket prices, confident that the fans will pay what they’re asked to pay. One such fan, Saints season ticket holder Hank Graham, explained why he bought season tickets again: “I renewed, like any good sheep would, because there are, supposedly, another 50,000 or so lunatic sheep like me waiting.”
March 26th, 2011 at 12:34 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Was there a better rookie left tackle last year than Veld?
How about a rookie MLB better than McPain?
Better KR than Ford?
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Was there a better rookie D-lineman than Houston besides N. Suhyyy?
McCoy was not as good as 99!
Alualu, and Dunlap probably tied for 3rd/4th
March 26th, 2011 at 12:47 am
We need OL help for sure. LG, C, and RG. Maybe B. Campbell wins a job, but we don’t know, and can’t count on it. Wiz 2.0 could be the answer at LG.
Anyway, we suck at the most important position on a team! QB! How can we not draft a QB this year. There should several options @ #48 no day one starters, but a smart guy with skills. Hue can mold him up, and turn him loose when he is ready.
Campbell is on the last year of his contract (thank goodness). Boiler is a 3rd string/camp arm guy. So what is the futer of the QB’s on this team? We have a really good young team, with shty sht at QB.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:57 am
We are a QB away from the playoffs. That and a vet posesion wr away from going to the SuperBowl. That and a year of maturity/continuity on D, and we can WIN the Super Bowl!
P.S. I am not posting too quickly!
The Rent is too damnn high!
March 26th, 2011 at 1:16 am
Midwest Panther fan. Sash would suk as deep safety in this scram. Dude can’t run!
Oh and post you sissy Panther stuff somewhere else.
Raiders!
Still not too fast.
March 26th, 2011 at 2:20 am
I can’t remember who we brought in and who split town in FA last year.
Was Groves a FA or did we trade for him? Cornell Green left but that should be any reason to recieve a compensatory pick. Oh wait, was that 2 years ago? It’s 5:19 and I’ve been up since 3, my mind is mush. Later Raiders.
March 26th, 2011 at 2:20 am
shouldn’t*
March 26th, 2011 at 2:55 am
Schillens was a 7th rounder.
March 26th, 2011 at 5:03 am
Get a fb in the 7th if one is there to take; unless reece improves his blocking. big o was the man. too bad with the injury.
March 26th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Courtney Anderson was the epitome of the Oakland Raiders looking good off the bus MO.
A 6′6 270 pound TE, who couldn’t block or catch.
March 26th, 2011 at 7:10 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:57 am
We are a QB away from the playoffs.
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I think if EVERYTHING goes right, Soup can lead us to the playoffs.
But being a consistant threat to make a playoff run yearly, or at least this year, is going to take either a new QB or a new version of Jason Campbell.
The guy has a 5 year NFL track record of playing one horrific game every month. He has worse statistical games than the worst that Jamarcus put forth.
And really the Jaxsonville game last year, in which he played pretty well until the end of the game, might have been the most meaningful NFL game he has played that late in the season.
Big game experience is huge in December and January football for QB’s, and Soup has ZERO of any of that going into next year.
March 26th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Is the site fixed yet? 11:45 a.m. edt
March 26th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Guess not. LMFAO
March 26th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 7:10 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:57 am
We are a QB away from the playoffs.
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I think if EVERYTHING goes right, Soup can lead us to the playoffs.
But being a consistant threat to make a playoff run yearly, or at least this year, is going to take either a new QB or a new version of Jason Campbell.
The guy has a 5 year NFL track record of playing one horrific game every month. He has worse statistical games than the worst that Jamarcus put forth.
And really the Jaxsonville game last year, in which he played pretty well until the end of the game, might have been the most meaningful NFL game he has played that late in the season.
Big game experience is huge in December and January football for QB’s, and Soup has ZERO of any of that going into next year.
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Campbell can move the ball. He is more mobile version of Jay schroeder/ Kerry Collins. Can he win big playoff games… probably not. Can he take us to the playoffs and scratch out a win or two… possibly.
For that reason I am on the campbell bandwagon. The Raiders were bad for 7 years, and they finally sniffed mediocre to average… with flashes of a chance to be good, which really only materlizes when teams do that more frequently and consitently.
Campbell and the Raiders mirror & parrellel each other. Al davis for years has preffered vetran QB’s that can throw the deep ball. That is exactly what Campbell is. We have zero in the pipeline as far young developing QB’s. The raiders have to draft and develop a QB to beat out Campbell. Or a player like Charlie Frye has to seize the oppertunity when/ if Campbell gets hurt.
Other than that the Campbell-Raiders affair is like a snickers commercial… not going anywhere for a while? I know campbell is under contract for one year only, but he can be easily retainded. I can’t think of any scenraios that does not have him back in Oakland in 2012.
March 26th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Wow! pick # 240 should put us right into the playoffs!
March 26th, 2011 at 8:12 am
I just left a post and it put it 6 back, fix this blog!
March 26th, 2011 at 8:12 am
I’m not posting to fast!
March 26th, 2011 at 8:13 am
I can’t wait to free agency starts so there will be something interesting to talk about
March 26th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Dbaz09 Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
You know you’re a lifetime Raider fan when you recognize all those names, except for Horace Jones (who?)
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yes this is true.
March 26th, 2011 at 8:47 am
What, no posting too fast.
March 26th, 2011 at 8:49 am
My mom is a Jehovah” witness and my dad’s an atheist. Now I knock door to door for no reason.
March 26th, 2011 at 8:49 am
It’s fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 26th, 2011 at 8:54 am
I’m sure people will point to Aaron Rodgers having only one playoff lose previous to this year to disagree with my point.
But when you have a QB posting close to 100 QB ratings and 4,500 yard seasons, you have a little more hope with that QB heading into the playoffs.
When your QB is in the mid 80’s in ratings, and about one turnover per TD for his career, it’s makes it hard to have the same level of faith in him having an Aaron Rodgers type playoff run.
March 26th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Our only hope with Campbell is if he somehow gets it in his head to play FASTER!!! and let it rip without a second thought.
When he plays fast it is night and day and he can win big games. But when it doesn’t …it doesn’t look pretty. Its up and down and all around – medicore.
March 26th, 2011 at 9:49 am
TerrapinRaider Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Our only hope with Campbell is if he somehow gets it in his head to play FASTER!!! and let it rip without a second thought.
When he plays fast it is night and day and he can win big games. But when it doesn’t …it doesn’t look pretty. Its up and down and all around – medicore.
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we won mostly in part to the running game
with out dmac an co. We wouldn’t have won many games at all
I like j camp but can you tell me a game that he won on his own. Other than our home game against kc
March 26th, 2011 at 9:52 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:57 am
We are a QB away from the playoffs. That and a vet posesion wr away from going to the SuperBowl. That and a year of maturity/continuity on D, and we can WIN the Super Bowl!
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We have a QB who is good enough to get to the Super Bowl. This team needs better o-line play and a consistent defense. If Plunkett can win two Super Bowls, then JC can win one.
March 26th, 2011 at 9:54 am
I like j camp but can you tell me a game that he won on his own.
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Not many QBs can win games on their own. Manning and Roethlisberger are about the only two who can.
March 26th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I can’t wait to see the Bulls in the NBA finals again.
March 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Really A.B.?
QBs that can take over a game every once in a while:
Manning, Roeth, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Vick, Eli, Cutler, Schaub.
Notice all but one made the playoffs last year.
March 26th, 2011 at 10:34 am
I wouldn’t put the home KC game as one that Campbell won on his own.
He did just about what Bruce did in AZ. Spotty play mostly, a costly turnover that resulted in points for the opponent, a TD pass, a nice drive to end the game with and about a 70 QB rating.
Only difference is Seabass made the kicks at the end of the game.
March 26th, 2011 at 10:50 am
46. Have to agree. Campbell took a f’in beatin’ if you watched every game. His toughness is not a question for me.
The O line is…
March 26th, 2011 at 10:57 am
41. Shaub? Really? Over rated.
You throw in the Leagues best rushing attack and an All Pro WR like Andre Johnson and yeah, I’ll bet alot of decent QBs would look pretty good.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:06 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Wow…what a happenin’ joint! I gotta believe the folks in charge of this here blog are working hard to make things better. Better than before maybe?
This blog is almost as screwed-up as MR, KK, et al…and the “posting too fast” crap must be tearing them up. Those who hate can’t hate fast enough, ya dig.
But, more importantly…
This LOCK-OUT hassle: The discussion about JCampbell is right on point. The not-so-covert message that HueJax gave the other day (paraphrasing, “they’re pros, they’ll work-out and be ready”)…was for everybody to heed, and most will.
I think this lockout is hurting/will hurt Campbell more than anybody on the team if it goes on through the Spring. He’s a guy with all the physical tools in the world, with a season here behind him now. The confidence we all crave to see from him can only come when he’s completely immersed in the Offense… completely comfortable with every situation he may face.
Confidence comes from preparation…and JCampbell needs max time in a structured/coached setting to maximize his command of the O, and of his Team. Tossing lobs to teammates at a local high school just won’t do it.
Last year’s awesome rookie crop? Those guys are just as athletic as they were last year, maybe more now…and what they lacked last year — seasoning — is what’s happening even now.
You can bet RoMcClain knows every one of his major mistakes last year, and how to correct it…you can bet Veldheer’s got a better read on the guys he’s seen…you can bet JFord knows which DB’s he’ll be able to exploit, and how, next year. Houston? These guys, and a few others, are likely better players already…without stepping another foot in the facility so far this year. Do they need the coaching? You bet they do…but none of them have to master — MASTER — an entire Offense. RoMcClain showed as a rookie that he had near total control of the D…something rookies rarely do.
JCampbell must master our Offense…and needs to practice it under “realistic” conditions for him to make notable progress from last year. And, no matter what, we must see notable progress.
Just another reason I see Mr. Al Davis pushing other Owners to get this thing fixed sooner rather than later. The longer the lockout lasts, the worse it is for the League. And it’s even worse for the Raiders, poised to take the next step, with a QB needing to gain a swagger.
If we want JCampbell to trust his instincts…let it fly on time…keep his wits about him when he’s being chased-down…let it fly on time…audible correctly…let it fly on time…pick the right receiver…let it fly on time…manage the clock…and, to let it fly on time…then we need him doing those things in a camp setting as much as possible.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:37 am
38.alex7 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Really A.B.?
QBs that can take over a game every once in a while:
Manning, Roeth, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Vick, Eli, Cutler, Schaub.
Notice all but one made the playoffs last year.
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Yep!
That is why I was screaming for the Raiders to do all it could to get Schaub!
They blew that.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:40 am
DKnight, almost seems like Davis doesn’t value the QB position. Weird.
Brings in leftovers year after year. Aaron Brooks, Collins, Campbell, Culpepper.
If Davis had a top-10 defense each year, then I guess I could see why he could get away with it. But instead, you get 6-10 land.
It’s only the most important position in football.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 10:34 am
I wouldn’t put the home KC game as one that Campbell won on his own.
He did just about what Bruce did in AZ. Spotty play mostly, a costly turnover that resulted in points for the opponent, a TD pass, a nice drive to end the game with and about a 70 QB rating.
Only difference is Seabass made the kicks at the end of the game.
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That and a star was born that day… Jacoby hauled in two passes that otherwise would have been int’s… he also ran down that first bomb by Campbell in OT… Campbell would have overthrown most WR, but in the NFL the WR is responsible for getting there, and Ford became a star because he showed he would go get the ball if its thrown to him.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:45 am
The Raiders haven’t had a home grown elite QB in almost 40 years. Its Al Davis’ way. So you just have to roll with Jason Campbell. He’s the best they could get. As with any free agent QB, you are going to get guys that have upside but also massive flaws. If they didn’t have flaws, they wouldn’t be free agents.
The Raiders have never developed a QB in recent memory. So hope JC can get it done. THere is no other option. Bruce? Mark Bulger…some mid round rook?
JC isn’t even the biggest weakness on this team.
Its the 28th ranked run defense and a secondary that is actually “excited???” about Stanford Routt, Walter McFadden, Tyvon Branch and Hiram Eugene
March 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am
During the most crucial moment of what turned out to be the most crucial game of the season (late in Jax game) Soup had to bow out for a series.
Than……he went back into the game with no issues and never missed a practice.
I want a QB that is so beat up he can’t practice but he would never miss a play of any game.
Instead Soup is there for every practice but sissies out of games for a few minutes all the time.
Would any of the QB’s that Alex listed ever allow their opponent to see them bring out a golf cart to escort them to the locker room of a preseason game?
No chance in hell!!!!
March 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 11:37 am
38.alex7 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Really A.B.?
QBs that can take over a game every once in a while:
Manning, Roeth, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Vick, Eli, Cutler, Schaub.
Notice all but one made the playoffs last year.
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Brady wins because of his coach and his offensive line. Brees would be no better than McCown if he played for the Raiders. Vick gets killed when the rest of the team doesn’t show up. Eli and Schaub need a lot of support. Rodgers is successful because he plays for the Packers and not the Raiders. I can’t believe you mentioned Cutler. Jeff George couldn’t win with the Raiders.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am
During the most crucial moment of what turned out to be the most crucial game of the season (late in Jax game) Soup had to bow out for a series.
Than……he went back into the game with no issues and never missed a practice.
I want a QB that is so beat up he can’t practice but he would never miss a play of any game.
Instead Soup is there for every practice but sissies out of games for a few minutes all the time.
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What a joke! Campbell had the crap beat out of him because of his poor offensive line. Put Brady behind the Raiders line and he would have had his knee blown out again.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Raiders gave up 77 QB hits last year, which was 14th best in the leauge (slightly above average).
Soup missed three complete games, and played around a half in 3 others.
He got almost a third of the year off!!!!
He was not beat up, he was probably one of the freshest QB’s in the league in December.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am
If you guys don’t like Campbell, I suppose Brett Favre is always an option.
March 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am
The only 2 developmental QB’s that would be good value 2nd Round picks for the Raiders in this draft would be:
Jake Locker and Ryan Mallett
Kaepernick is a good 3rd Round prospect.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The Raiders can’t develop Qbs. So that option is out.
JC is good enough to compete.
You guys are looking for Aaron Rogers, Peyton, Schaub etc….you have to have good coaching, good front office and stability for that.
Otherwise, you go free agency and HOPE for the best.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
47.A.B. Paine III Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am
DKnight007 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 11:37 am
38.alex7 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Really A.B.?
QBs that can take over a game every once in a while:
Manning, Roeth, Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Vick, Eli, Cutler, Schaub.
Notice all but one made the playoffs last year.
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Brady wins because of his coach and his offensive line. Brees would be no better than McCown if he played for the Raiders. Vick gets killed when the rest of the team doesn’t show up. Eli and Schaub need a lot of support. Rodgers is successful because he plays for the Packers and not the Raiders. I can’t believe you mentioned Cutler. Jeff George couldn’t win with the Raiders.
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Those QB’s are smart also and make changes at the line of scrimmage and are students of the game.
Vick…not so much. His athleticism and instincts help him out more than anything and he is accurate enough and has a strong arm.
Cutler is jack azz!
March 26th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
52.SnB Production Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The Raiders can’t develop Qbs. So that option is out.
JC is good enough to compete.
You guys are looking for Aaron Rogers, Peyton, Schaub etc….you have to have good coaching, good front office and stability for that.
Otherwise, you go free agency and HOPE for the best.
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Exactly and why is that?
Because old man Al hires and fires coaches to rapidly and the offensive terminology and playbook is constantly changing, which basically mind screws any young QB coming in here and just stunts their development!
March 26th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Plus Eli threw 24 picsk last year
March 26th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
54. Raiders have never been able to develop a QB.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
What coach do we have that can develope a QB besides Hugh jack. An he’s the head coach
I’ll take a chance on locker or kapernick
but who will have time to coachem up
March 26th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
51. Locker lacks accuracy. Mallet’s trouble and immature. Could’ve kept J Marc instead if we’d wanted BS.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Exactly and why is that?
Because old man Al hires and fires coaches to rapidly and the offensive terminology and playbook is constantly changing, which basically mind screws any young QB coming in here and just stunts their development!
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Dknight007,
It is what it is. No point in getting too frustrated about it. Just hope Davis’ plan works.
The defense is my big concern. Gotta stop the run and without Nnamdi, I am worried that the pass defense becomes a weakness too.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I am intrigued with Locker.
He is easily the best athlete at QB in this draft (strongest arm of all QB’s, faster than Cam and Colin, and also an MLB level prospect in baseball).
I doubt he slips past Seattle in the late first round, but he is as solid as possible between the ears, and that is what Hue said he wants most in his QB.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I gotta say j camp won the kc game. He made the neccessary throws. I don’t know if grads could have made those throws to ford.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
51. Locker lacks accuracy. Mallet’s trouble and immature. Could’ve kept J Marc instead if we’d wanted BS
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If they are drafted, they sure as hell are NOT starting right away, they will sit and learn and practice.
The thing is will Coach Huey still be here in two years with his playbook and coacing to get the young QB ready….or will idiot old man Al bring in another coach with whole new offensive terminology and basically MIND F**k the young QB?
Ugh
March 26th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
After watching Todd Marionovich, Billy Jo Hobert, Marques Tuiassossopo, Andrew Walter and JaDavis…I am all done with the young QBs.
If Hue Jackson can stay head coach for at least 3 years…then draft a QB in Hue’s 4th year.
The Raiders are what they are….the best bet in reality is getting the defense right. The Raiders should never be in a situation where they gotta put up more than 24.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
As a comparision on this whole “Campbell gets beat up by our O-line” lets look at the 49ers.
Raiders attempted 504 passes, gave up 44 sacks and 77 QB hits.
49ers attempted 401 passes, gave up 44 sacks and 95 QB hits.
So for those looking to “address” our O-line with rookies, that’s what the 49ers did last year and that was the result.
Bruce Campbell and another rookie on our O-line may be great in 2013, but it will be an unmitagated disaster next year.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
63. I see what you’re saying but its not a Davis issue switching things up. Look at the colege level look at how many O coords J. Campbell had in college and the pros.
Look at Tebow ect.
I agree continuity helps but its not the be all end all. this leauge changes so much form season to season sometimes.
Mallet has the arm and throws a pretty ball but his dedication and off field issues are a question marks.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
64.SnB Production Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
After watching Todd Marionovich, Billy Jo Hobert, Marques Tuiassossopo, Andrew Walter and JaDavis…I am all done with the young QBs.
If Hue Jackson can stay head coach for at least 3 years…then draft a QB in Hue’s 4th year.
The Raiders are what they are….the best bet in reality is getting the defense right. The Raiders should never be in a situation where they gotta put up more than 24.
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I agree. Build the DEFENSE into a BEAST and TURN that O-LINE into a physical bully of a unit that are able to adjust and do multiple blocking schemes if necessary.
Add a BEAST WR somwhere either a vet or a rookie find. They also need a physical BLOCKING FB.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
But the teams that stay consistent seem to do well
players learn the system an it’s almost like second nature
but change regularly brings many breakdowns an mistakes which result in big plays.
Keep a staff in place an you can develope talent you draft
March 26th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Otherwise you need to continue AL’S way an bring in vets
March 26th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
61.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I am intrigued with Locker.
He is easily the best athlete at QB in this draft (strongest arm of all QB’s, faster than Cam and Colin, and also an MLB level prospect in baseball).
I doubt he slips past Seattle in the late first round, but he is as solid as possible between the ears, and that is what Hue said he wants most in his QB.
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Yep. Solid upside with Locker.
Just have Locker sit, learn and practice in a Pro System for about two years. Kinda like what happened with Rodgers in Green Bay.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
No excuse on the new co-ordinator thing for Soup this year.
He has worked with Al Saunders more than any other OC in the pro’s. This will be his 3rd year with Al Saunders out of 6 years as a starter.
And the offense won’t change any from last year and Hue.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Yep. Solid upside with Locker.
Just have Locker sit, learn and practice in a Pro System for about two years. Kinda like what happened with Rodgers in Green Bay.
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I think this could work by yr three he should be ready.
Dknight.
March 26th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
But what happens if we fire Hugh Jack dknight?
March 26th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
71.r8dercain Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Yep. Solid upside with Locker.
Just have Locker sit, learn and practice in a Pro System for about two years. Kinda like what happened with Rodgers in Green Bay.
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I think this could work by yr three he should be ready.
Dknight.
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Yeah….IF not sooner. Just depends if Huey and Saunders are the main offensive coaches still at that time….otherwise…
Oy vey!
March 26th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Cutler will probably be in a Raider uniform in two years after the Bears give up on him.
BTW Jerry, fix your blog. I guess we are only allowed to post once every five minutes now?
March 26th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
r8dercain Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Otherwise you need to continue AL’S way an bring in vets
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Considering that there will only be 1 draft pick prior to 2006 starting (Routt) and only 2 1st round picks for the entire decade (DMAC & McClain)…DHB is turning out be more bust than prospect now….
The Raiders have to sign veterans to have a chance.
That’s why Seymour is here and Jason Campbell!
March 26th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Al knows should we lose Mr. Asomugha, Raiders know they will get at least 3 compensatory picks for next years draft!
March 26th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
“And what the Raiders used to be, when they walked in town, everybody knew we carried the big stick and we were coming to get them.”
-Hue Jackson
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Hue Jackson does that and I’m with him all the way.
March 26th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
3.860Todd Christensen Says:
March 25th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Add 20 more years to Robbin’s sentence for screwing the Nation at the Super Bowl, scumbag!
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20?!
Don’t be so light on idiot.
March 26th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
A.B. Paine III Says:
We have a QB who is good enough to get to the Super Bowl. This team needs better o-line play and a consistent defense. If Plunkett can win two Super Bowls, then JC can win one.
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Some folks on here think that you’re MR, but there’s no way that MR is that dumb.
March 26th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
57.GoodOle00 Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
54. Raiders have never been able to develop a QB.
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Well, Stabler sat on the bench until they kind of developed him and they also developed Plunkett after the ’49’s dumped him.
March 26th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
March 26th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Our only hope with Campbell is if he somehow gets it in his head to play FASTER!!! and let it rip without a second thought.
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LMFAO.
And maybe Gadaffi will learn how to be a good guy.
March 26th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Jerry McDonald!
What kind of an idiot, or idiots, do you have running this blog?
You should fix the blog, old son.
March 26th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Stella!!!
We don’t need no stinkin’ badges!!!
March 26th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Why is a Panther fan posting here about Clausen and such?And the lame lead-in…”Sorry, but a non-Raider draft comment,” and the idiot asks Questions about the “”Panthers”??!?Mid-West fan, go away!You are completely out of context.
March 26th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I don’t see Davis taking a QB this draft. It doesn’t apppear to be an area of need in Davis’ mind. Jason Campbell is young, strong-armed, and Davis’ guy.
Why did Andrew Walter fail? Was he really that bad or just a bad environment he was thrown into?
March 26th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
I’m just a big draft guy and like to see how it plays out. No other interesting talk going on around here so why not at least talk about football.
No I’m not a Panthers fan… I’ve been on this blog for several years now and I just prefer to talk about football vs politics or how much MR & KK suck.
March 26th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Dear Al,
Please sign Vince Young. I’m not sure he’s the answer, but I am sure JaJason sucks.
Thank you.
March 26th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I’m relieved Robbins is going to be locked up too. Guy is a danger to himself and society.
March 26th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
88. VY? Headcase. Why not just keep J Marc? He was already paid at least.
If he stays healthy Campbell’s going to be good.
89. True dat. Sad but I’ll never forgive the SB freak out. Ugh…
March 26th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
86. Walter threw for 10,000 + in college. He got killed by Oaklands Gallery led Shell coached bed and breakfast nightmare.
March 27th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Midwest Panthers fan needs to get back on Krautsens nuttss. This blog comment spot is for real football fans! Raider fans! Not you wimpy kitty fans.
MR Pain III what would you know about NFL QB’s?
If you think Campbell is an above average QB, yer just like the rest of you “violet district” East Sac peeps!
March 27th, 2011 at 7:58 am
93. If it wasn’t for the price of gas and groceries right now I’d think Mitchell was kidding…
March 27th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Mike Mitchell posted this on facebook:
Trying to see if krogers is hiring. I have to get a job with this lock out. Anyone want to be a reference? Let us play! For more info visit Nfllockout.com
March 27th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Things slow around here, I decided to read back thru the archives this same time last season, and reading back over my old posts.
Ugh, it’s like looking back on old photos of yourself.
March 27th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Without a first round pick, I haven’t been putting out my typical Mock drafts for the Raiders but here we go with my first one of the offseason:
2nd round – Colin Kapernick, QB
Yes the company line is to support Campbell, but the fact of the matter is he is on a one year contract, and Frye and Boller are 3rd QB’s not backups. Need to get younger, and more options at the most important position in football, and Colin has the athelticism and rocket arm that Al loves.
3rd round, Wiz 2.0, G
May have to give up a 6th or 7th rounder to move up a half dozen spots or so to ensure to get him, but I think a 2nd round pick is too early for a Guard with a few question marks. Will work well in Hue Jack’s mix and match of power and ZBS, as Wiz 2.0 would be a good ZBS with his size and athleticism. Provides depth at C, although will not be his primary position.
4th round, Denarius Moore, WR Tennessee
Ran a sub 4.4 at his pro day, and did pretty well in his bowl game against a North Carolina secondary that will have some players drafted as well. WR still a need position, even with all the picks we have thrown at it.
5th round, Justin Rogers, DB Richmond
Solid forty times at combine and pro day (right at 4.4), made a lot of plays against low quality opposition, and also was all conference as a kick/punt returner. Punt returns have been awful for a couple years running now in Oakland.
6th round, Byron Bell, OT New Mexico
Massive 350 pound guy who can play RT or G, was a top flight prospect coming out of HS, but had attitude and academic issues. The wrap on him is that the only thing preventing him from being a star is him, but too much talent to pass up on in the 6th round.
7th round (compensatory pick), Adrain Moten OLB, Maryland
Fast, undersized LB, who can possibly stick as special teams player and depth.
March 27th, 2011 at 10:41 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
That goes for Midwest Fan…and any other fan representing the Raiders around the world. Midwest Raiders fan is always welcome here.
As entertaining as some of the characters in here can be, they can be just as offensive and/or boring…
More Draft talk is exactly what this blog needs.
More “talk” is what this blog needs!!
Wasn’t this at one time THE MOST POPULAR SPORTS BLOG IN THE BAY AREA??
That’s one astounding business practice: FREEZE-OUT THE CUSTOMERS THE ADVERTISERS ARE PAYING TO CAPTURE…
…and then not explain what’s going on, or when the problem will be fixed.
Anybody sure this blog isn’t run by the same people who thought the NFL lockout was a good idea?
Tell ‘em to get it fixed, Jerry.
C’mon, man.
March 27th, 2011 at 11:33 am
A few guys I’m intrigued by
Tyler Sash –
Read & React: Reads his keys to sniff out running plays and quick screens. Instinctive, flies through traffic to get to stretch plays or plug holes inside. Good range but at times can be a step slow to find a receiver coming into his zone. Overaggressive and will overrun plays.
Man Coverage: Good athleticism for his size, can trail most tight ends into the flat or on crossing routes. Gets his hands on tight ends in coverage, but could draw contact flags in the NFL. Fair backpedal for a safety, can handle slot responsibility for short periods of time against four-receiver sets.
Zone Coverage: Played in a lot of two-deep coverage. Quick enough to reach the sideline on long throws, has the coordination to high-point the ball or knock it away. Good hands to take advantage of overthrows over the middle. Gets pulled out of his area at times, leaving space for the trailing receiver. Bites hard on good play-action.
Closing/Recovery: Underrated speed and good angles allow him to track down backs from behind. Will be an effective blitzer playing around the line. Adequate recovery speed for a safety if beaten by receivers but will not catch many NFL receivers from behind.
Run Support: Always looking for run keys from two-deep position. Closes to the ball quickly, bringing bad intentions in flying to the ball on stretch plays. Fails to break down at times, overrunning the play and opening cutback lanes in the process. Fails to shed blocks to make plays, but has good strength to get off receiver blocks.
Tackling: Well-built upper body gives him excellent strength for the position. Goes for the big shoulder or forearm slam over the middle but still makes a grab for jersey to minimize yards after catch. Extends arms or lays strong shoulder hit to back heading out of bounds instead of merely escorting them. Can rip the ball out while wrapping. Effective cutting ballcarriers and making ankle tackles in the open field, though he should leave his feet less and keep his head up more often against NFL ballcarriers.
Intangibles: Vocal leader in the locker room. Puts in the time to prepare for next week’s opponent. Demonstrative and talkative on the field. No known character concerns.
March 27th, 2011 at 11:38 am
An Al Davis type player –
Chimdi Chekwa
Playing in a conference generally chided for being short on speed, Chimdi Chekwa (pronounced Chim-dee Cheek-wah) is one of many players with football and track backgrounds transplanted from the Southeast to the Midwest. An all-state pick in football and track in Florida, a state heavy in talent in both sports, he anchored the Buckeyes’ 2009 Big Ten champion outdoor 4×100 relay — and the secondary for the Buckeyes’ football team.
Chekwa broke into the cornerback rotation as a redshirt freshman, intercepting a pass against Purdue (winning Big Ten Defensive Player of the Week in his only start of the year), and breaking up other nine passes and making 30 tackles in 2007 while playing in all 13 games. He broke into the starting lineup the following season when Donald Washington was suspended for the first two games of the season, picking off one pass and breaking up four others in 11 starts (played in every game). Chekwa earned honorable-mention All-Big Ten honors from league coaches as a junior, earning 43 tackles, intercepting one pass and breaking up seven more.
Chekwa’s first-team all-conference senior season (42, tackles, four for loss, three interceptions, nine pass breakups) did not end like he hoped it would. Early in the team’s Sugar Bowl win over Arkansas, Chekwa blanketed Razorback sophomore receiver Cobi Hamilton down the middle but landed awkwardly on his right wrist after leaping up to knock away the pass. Assuming the surgically-repaired wrist heals enough for him to display his speed and agility for scouts before the draft, look for him to be one of the top 75 selections and become an NFL starter.
March 27th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110327_wayne_weaver_on_april_6_hearing_we_think_well_win
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Weavers an A hole and one of the worst owners. Jags sug!
March 27th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
QB Josh Portis with pick #240?
March 27th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
This is a test of the IBA, Jerry’s Raider blog. Had this been an actual real blog, it would have been FIXED already..
We now return you to the jacked up piece of junk blog you have been dealing with for over a week now…
March 27th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
hassafrass i concur I do not see Al taking a qb, (unless someone like Newton or Locker fall to the 48th pick) [and that's not going to happen for either one].
March 27th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
except maybe a qb int he 6th or 7th round
March 27th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Some of you guys are just plain old haters. Cambell is a good qb that has played for terrible teams in his career. With wr group & oline we had he made chicken salad out of chicken shid over & over again. Not to mention learning another nwe offense after being traded & benched for the first time in his career. Trust me any qb that can go undeafeted & win a national title, be drafted by offensive guru and legend Joe Gibbs can play. Davis Gibbs & hu Jack know better than you do. There is no qb in the draft that is better than jc. Give it a rest. Can’t wait til jc gets a good oline & some reliable targets, you fools will be eating your words.
March 27th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
91 and 103. When Davis drafted Jamarcus, I was surprised as well because I thought that Andrew Walter could’ve been a good QB. I remember Walter was a bit confused as well. Bottom line: it’s just hard to know what Davis is thinking. All the pundits are always getting it wrong.
March 27th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
I happen to agree with you Mistic1 I think for his first season here Campbell played well. I’m not sure how good he will be but we haven’t had QB play like his in years in fact since the first year Gannon was here.
I wasn’t sure what kind of player he would be but he is as good as I could’ve imagined he might be. Now he just needs to get better. Which I don’t doubt he will with more familiarity. Being in the system another year and players around him getting better.
I see no one thinks a QB can be developed here. lol some of the stuff you read in here is just flat out laughable. Good QB’s are hard to come by and sometimes you get a good one but he’s just not ready to compete. We’ve had some rotten luck in that area. Particularly with Russell who’s immaturity along with poor coaching and poor supporting caste was way too much to overcome. I still think he can be a great player if he wants it bad enough.
Andrew Walter is just a mystery to me. It seems he was dissillustioned which shows a lack of drive and character.
Bottom line is it’s just the most difficult position in sports to master. There are a lot of mediocre players at that position starting in this league. There are only about 6-8 great ones………….period
March 27th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Let’s give it a try.
2nd – Wiz (trade back a few spots and get another pick)
3rd – Chekwa
4th – Matthews
5th – Moffit (use extra pick from above and this 5th to move up and select Moffit)
6th – G or T prospect
7th – Jeff Maehl or Lockette
March 27th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
2 – OT/OG Cannon
3 – CB House
4 – OT/OG Gilbert
5 – DT/NT Williams
6 – DE/DT Thornton
7 – TE Pianalto
7 – QB Portis
March 27th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Ian Williams – I like him but I think a 3-4 team will have a higher grade on him than the 5th round.
Strengths: Two-gap nose tackle has the anchor and lower-body strength to hold up against double-team. Aware of the play in the backfield, works his way off his block to chase plays when run to the other side of the line. Flashes nimble feet through trash inside. Can disengage from linemen with strong hands, occasionally spinning to get free. Capable of popping into his man’s jersey to keep from getting moved off the line. Swallows backs with his girth when he closes up a gap, and has the strength to knock down smaller backs with an arm tackle. Chase and hustle are impressive, will help linebackers make stops at the second level and takes deep angles to chase down running backs down the sideline.
Weaknesses: Does not provide much initial pass rush but can prevent quarterbacks from stepping up into the pocket and gives effort to reach the passer until the ball is away. Lacks closing speed. Too short to affect passing lanes. Not mobile or explosive enough to get outside on stunts or twists. Often replaced in obvious passing situations. Adequate get-off for a run-stopping nose tackle, but does not have elite quickness to beat NFL interior linemen off the snap as a penetrator. Rarely dominates better linemen with his bull rush. Will not be a productive tackler outside of the box at the next level.
March 27th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Raiders-Texans on NFL replay tomorrow right around lunchtime.
March 27th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
JFB that may well be the case but shouldn’t we take into consideration that he was a rookie? Or doea that matter? I mean there is a reason they continued to start him isn’t there or maybe they were just blinded by his charisma….
No one is saying the kid is a start in this league but I will say for sure he is a viable starter. What you want are quality starters and I can tell you he is that. Whether you or anyone else in here realize it. He is a quality starter. As I said there are maybe 8 at the most great players at that position and the rest you can throw them in a grab bag and take your pick. He is among them I would just as soon take him as I would the kid in Dallas or NY either of them. He is definitely as good as Hasselback or Garrard.
I think he’s better than Cassell in KC or Flacco they are all a bunch of guys that may or may not play well. That includes the overrated Matt Ryan. I think he can do anything those guys can do and he is a quality kid.
I would take him over VY anyday even though he’s never been to the pro-bowl. He is a quality starter…period.
March 27th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Good question kirk, the answer is yes we do when he plays. Case closed!!!
March 27th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Midwest you shouold at least post a,link or give writer cred when posting whole passages of peoples work
March 27th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
116. The team was falling apart 2 yrs in to Campbell’s tenure.
FACT.
Plain old basic incomplete stats without a broader overview leads to erroneous conclusions.
FACT.
March 27th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Do we win?
March 27th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
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March 27th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Cambell is a good qb that has played for terrible teams in his career.
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Complete and utter lie.
Campbell’s Redskins were a playoff team that went to the second round of the playoffs and lost to the eventual Super Bowl representative in the NFC, in his rookie year (he didn’t play).
His third year, the Redskins also made the playoffs after he got hurt and they went 4-0 to end the season with Todd Collins.
They made the playoffs two of his fist three years in the league!!!!
They only get terrible after he started playing 16 games a year for them.
Redskins record with Campbell
20-32
Redskins record without Campbell playing when he was there
17-13, two playoff appearances
Facts
March 27th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
tj, your assessment of Matt Ryan is 100% idiocy as most of your post are. You are rooted in delusion and racial bias, you’re a bigot much like KK. Be honest Matt Ryan is a white QB and it kills you to give him some credit so you being the subhuman bigot reject that you are actually give some Russell some shine.
U complete fk’ing d-bag.
March 27th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
*Priceless*
tj & debo/seymourglenn comparing notes on a qb after slobbering over JaMeatloaf.
lmfao
March 27th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
111.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Raiders-Texans on NFL replay tomorrow right around lunchtime.
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Yeah, so? Why would I want to watch the D get steamrolled by the run and Bruise end the game with one of the worst interceptions of all time? And I’m not talking about the one off Murphy’s hands. Game was over by then. The only positive from that game is that it was the beginning of the end for Scabs, Cable, Tollner and Whackit.
March 27th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Priest,
I agree about Ryan. He a dinker and dunker. Chris Redman looks just as good in that offense. Two games come to mind when I hear Ryan’s name. A couple of years ago when Atlanta hosted Denver with Cutler and last year’s playoff loss against Green Bay. You could see a clear difference between Cutler/Rodgers and Ryan in the arm-strength department. People who say arm strength is overrated are out of their minds.
March 27th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Let’s Hope HueJax is all that. Because since 1989, 22 years ago, the Raiders have had 11 Head Coaches & 11 Starting Quarterbacks.
22,000 season ticket holders, coincidence?
March 27th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Debo that’s just too funny! lol
That game was painful to watch because we were a better team than they were. It was the game before the game where I realized Campbell was a better QB than Bruce. The game vs SD clinched it for me it was obvious from that point forward that if the Raiders wanted to get in the mix they had to sit Bruce and play JC. stronger arm just as mobile bigger stronger player tall in the pocket and the most important thing he’ll get much better. Bruce is about as good as he’s going to get…………..period
March 27th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
The media annointed Matt Ryan a great QB and he isn’t even close, he’s and average QB on a good team. Take away that running game and the probowl TE and WR. And he’s not as good as Russell. He just lucked out and got in a good situation and he is a very hard worker and makes some plays but he’s marginal as a QB IMO.
March 27th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Priest u r seriously trippn if u think Matt Ryan is as good as Jamarcus Russell…. Matt Ryan is a winner and his ball placement is ridiculously good…. He is clearly a top 10 qb…. Jamarcus is out of football because he was fat and lazy and couldn’t throw with any kind of touch on the ball… He was horrible and just made me sick to watch his fat ass flop and fumble in the pocket…. You are outta ur mind with those comments and should be banished for praising jawalrus…..
March 27th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
On to more serious issues, if Al Davis was smart he would let HBO come in and commercialize this beat up old franchise and let the world see the new high tech raiders… Like huejax, McFadden, Ford, McClain, Houston….. It would be so great to get to watch us on HBO and pump up the fan base…. Maybe sell a few extra seats to games cuz we get to see our boyz putting in the work and earning their millions….. It would be a wise move from a marketing standpoint and would raise morale big time…. For the fans that is….. One can only hope right? As far as the draft goes we need depth at qb for sure, but we also are hurting on the O-line…. I say go for some young nasty linemen with 50% of our picks… This team has had a weak line for way 2 long… We need to build strength in the trenches to compete….
March 27th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
116. The team was falling apart 2 yrs in to Campbell’s tenure.
FACT.
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So the FACT that his team made the playoffs in his 3rd year was part of the “falling apart” process?
March 27th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
JFB, your take on jc is a joke. Just because you wikipedia the record doesn’t give you a knowledgeable perspective. Remember you have already admitted to me that you didn’t watch jc in Washington. I did, & once Gibbs left they were horrible. Arguably more dysfunctional than Oakland during the same time span.
A playoff birth doesn’t make you a good team. Mediocre teams make the playoffs as well, ask the seahawks.
You want to give Collins credit for a short run, but you deny jc that pit them in position for a run to be possible in the first place.
Bottom line jc , hu Jack, & dmac took the worst offense of modern era football & made them dangerous. He did it with one of the leakiest olines in football & piss poor wr play. Give me a break. Your take is weaker than Bruce skabkowskis arm.
March 27th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Can you imagine if scabkowski went 8-8 & made us one of the top scoring teams in football? The bloggers would be treating him like a hall of famer! JC gets no love?!?!? Laughable!
March 27th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Ryan is a QB in the NFL, Jruss is a waste of talent,an imposter at QB,A ONE season wonder in college,bring on the rookie salary cap!!!!!!!!!!! That said, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
March 27th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
post122, ah,the snake did NOT have a great arm,but he will always be my guy,A field General! Montana as well,NOT my guy, but so much for great arms,alone!!!
March 27th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Rusell problems are his work ethic and immaturity. if he put the time in and worked at his craft he’d twice the QB Matt Ryan is and that is my opinion. Matt Ryan is very average to me. His ball placement is very overrated he is a checkdown machine. Unless he’s throwing to White who makes him look good a lot. Other than that he’s average………period
March 27th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
We see now what Russell was working with in DHB and Murphy, two bad WR’s and a very young TE. Oh! and JLH who played when he wanted to. A below average Oline and shaky defense. He was supposed to win with that. Bruce couldn’t win with it and the fans put him on a pedestal worthy of Dan Marino. Bruce’s record stinks!!
Give Russell a probowl runner, TE and WR good Oline and a fair defense and he would put up good #’s too. The kid was playing with garbage…………period
March 27th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
131.priesttj Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Rusell problems are his work ethic and immaturity. if he put the time in and worked at his craft he’d twice the QB Matt Ryan is and that is my opinion. Matt Ryan is very average to me. His ball placement is very overrated he is a checkdown machine. Unless he’s throwing to White who makes him look good a lot. Other than that he’s average………period
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Russell may not have worked as hard as he should have in 2009, but that’s not unforgivable, especially when you consider that he was grieving. Brett Favre was accused of the exact same things JR was, but he had an awesome organization, coaching staff and supporting cast on offense to get him through. Al should have been patient. Especially since he didn’t do his part to provide a stable/competent coaching staff or even an average supporting cast on offense. Since he didn’t do either, we’ll never know how good he could have been here.
March 27th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
132.priesttj Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
We see now what Russell was working with in DHB and Murphy, two bad WR’s and a very young TE. Oh! and JLH who played when he wanted to. A below average Oline and shaky defense. He was supposed to win with that. Bruce couldn’t win with it and the fans put him on a pedestal worthy of Dan Marino. Bruce’s record stinks!!
Give Russell a probowl runner, TE and WR good Oline and a fair defense and he would put up good #’s too. The kid was playing with garbage…………period
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This is so easy, can’t see why only a few people get it.
March 27th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Can you imagine if scabkowski went 8-8 & made us one of the top scoring teams in football? The bloggers would be treating him like a hall of famer! JC gets no love?!?!? Laughable!
March 27th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Only a few people chose to see it. They hate the kid and to a certain extent I understand why, they feel he embarrassed them. But Russell is a much better player than they give him credit for. He just didn’t have much to work with and he didn’t do himself any favors. I feel he could’ve done what JC did last year if not more. It was a bad mistake made by all. He should’ve taken a pay cut it would’ve given Mr davis an excuse to keep him going into training camp. Where IMO he would’ve won the job outright.
March 28th, 2011 at 4:46 am
Give Russell a probowl runner, TE and WR good Oline and a fair defense and he would put up good #’s too. The kid was playing with garbage…………period
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Yeah, if only he had a Pro Bowl RB, TE, WR and O-line, lol.
The team may have been garbage, but Jamarcus was the biggest piece of trash in the group, and our RB, TE, WR and O-line all got magically better once Al Davis realized Jamarcus his mistake and got rid of him.
March 28th, 2011 at 4:54 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
JFB, your take on jc is a joke. Just because you wikipedia the record doesn’t give you a knowledgeable perspective. Remember you have already admitted to me that you didn’t watch jc in Washington. I did, & once Gibbs left they were horrible. Arguably more dysfunctional than Oakland during the same time span.
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There you go again, just making $hyt up as you deem it necessary.
I never said I never watched JC play in Washington. I lived in Vegas at that time and went to the Hilton almost every weekend and watched parts of damn near every game, every week.
When Gibbs left, they went 6-2 to start the next season (with Campbell) but than tanked the rest of the year to finish 8-8 AND THAT’S when the demise happened.
Redskins were 10-6 his rookie year (playoff team), 5-11 the next year with Soup starting half the season , 9-7 the next year (playoff team); going 4-0 to end the season with Campbell hurt, and than started the next year 6-2. Than the collapse came, and Soup led them to a 6-18 record over the next year and a half.
Not a great team, but not as bad as people like you try to make it seem.
March 28th, 2011 at 4:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
240th pick? It’s something, although nothing to holler about!
March 28th, 2011 at 5:17 am
Priesttj Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Only a few people chose to see it. They hate the kid and to a certain extent I understand why, they feel he embarrassed them. But Russell is a much better player than they give him credit for. He just didn’t have much to work with and he didn’t do himself any favors. I feel he could’ve done what JC did last year if not more. It was a bad mistake made by all. He should’ve taken a pay cut it would’ve given Mr davis an excuse to keep him going into training camp. Where IMO he would’ve won the job outright.
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Oh yeah? Then why hasn’t anyone else given the guy a job?
March 28th, 2011 at 5:31 am
JFB, don’t put words in my mouth to make your weak case. I didn’t use the word “never”. However you and others have readily admitted that you did not follow him closely. Let’s not get into a game of semantics. Also those teams were terribly flawed, from shoddy offensive lines, lack luster wr play, & sniping beteween players coaches & the owner. You simply can’t blame the fall of the foreskins on JC. You need todo it toanchor your case, but it just isn’t accurate. Again JC turned our offense around. This team couldn’t score, couldn’t move the ball now were a top 10 offense & you give our qb no credit. Like I said it’s weak.
March 28th, 2011 at 5:33 am
There are 6 people in the entire world who think Jamarcus Russell is anything other than a lazy POS who took advantage of the Raiders and soaked them for every penny he could get without putting any effort into improving the team, and this jabrone (priestj) is one of them. I dont give a crap what the Raiders gave him in a coaching staff. They didnt overfeed his punk a$$, they didnt give him Ambian before meetings to make him sleepy, they didnt give him Codein to make ‘drink’. What they did was hire a guy, pay him the most a player had ever been payed as a rookie (at the time) and told him we expect you to do your best to be instramental in turning this franchise around. Everything that has happened to Jamarcus Russell since that day in April of 2007 is Jamarcus Russells fault.
March 28th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Russell may not have worked as hard as he should have in 2009, but that’s not unforgivable, especially when you consider that he was grieving. Brett Favre was accused of the exact same things JR was, but he had an awesome organization, coaching staff and supporting cast on offense to get him through. Al should have been patient. Especially since he didn’t do his part to provide a stable/competent coaching staff or even an average supporting cast on offense. Since he didn’t do either, we’ll never know how good he could have been here.
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except for Jacoby ford. Isn’t this the same team on offense???
March 28th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Fernandez only name on the list to make a hit! He was a bad boy at WR. Played well with Tim Brown and Willie Gault.
March 28th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Again JC turned our offense around
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JC definitely helped the Raiders improve but to say he was the guy to turn us around is about as reasonable as saying Tom Cable was instrumental in making Nnamdi Asomugha a superstar. Our offense was drastically improved last year on the strength of our running game. Teams did everything possible to stop us, and were largely unsuccessful. Our passing offense was still dismal (except for when our Rbs took 5 yard passes and turned them into 50+ yard gains). I expect Hue to improve on that aspect this year, and with some solid improvement from our WRs I am sure JC can put up some pretty decent numbers. JC is the type of QB that if everything around him is right he will be ok, but he isnt the guy who is going to make a shoddy team better.
March 28th, 2011 at 6:46 am
This team couldn’t score, couldn’t move the ball now were a top 10 offense & you give our qb no credit. Like I said it’s weak.
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I will give credit to Campbell for being better than Jamarcus and Bruce.
It was still an up and down year for him, and he had the benefit of a great running game and a weak schedule.
All eyes on Soup in 2011.
March 28th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Hye man, I supported Russel but lets be honest. Off the field and on the field this guy just was not ready to take advantage of the opportunity.
Rookie Captain in the perfect Oaklnad storm.
March 28th, 2011 at 8:39 am
It B. Campbell is not good enough to be a RT, we must draft a RT. And a C.
March 28th, 2011 at 9:00 am
146. Gotta disagree with you, Frank Hawkins was a little Beast! The dude was as thick as he was tall & was a helluva blocker for Marcus (I’m gonna whine & moan because Bo is better than me, then become an Effing Chief) Allen… Could even catch a swing pass once in a while… Hubbard and Martin were no slouches either…
March 28th, 2011 at 9:31 am
haters, honestly ask yourselves, how many games does this team win with out JC? this is speculative, but i would venture to guess we would be around 3 possibly four wins.
Things were not going well in san diego, or kc & Jc played a major roll leading us to huge wins.
For the record, i said hu jack, dmac & JC were the biggest reasons for our turn around on offense. i give extra credit to hu jack city & JC because they were not with this team before last season.
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JC deserves more credit than he’s gotten. He showed me a hell of a lot in that 1st San Diego game, a game we had no chance of winning if Bruise had stayed in, even being spotted 12 points. Guess I shouldn’t have been surprised after he kicked our ass in Oakland in 2009. But he definitely benefited from several changes on offense, most importantly the addition of Hue. Cable, Tollner and Whackit were clowns who destroyed the offense in 2009 after we let Knapp leave. Plus we had two new starting tackles and the addition of Jacoby Ford, who also made an impact in the return game. The revamped front seven on D didn’t hurt either. JR would have benefited from these changes as well. I would have liked to see him compete with JC for the job.
March 28th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Raiderinpa Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I think we’re all gonna see that Al will prove all the speculation as false, I dont see him letting his most prized CB and model citizen get away!! Remember that it was Al who converted Nnamdi to CB to begin with.. I’m sure he is still patting himself on the back for that… That crap statement he made in the Jackson presser about the value of two or three guys for Nnamdi’s salary was smoke and mirrors… Just watch, Coach will prove ‘em all wrong if/when this CBA debacle gets cleared up… Then sit back and laugh…
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Doubt it with the money he gave Routt. We’ll see though. Kind of interested to see our D without him.
March 28th, 2011 at 9:44 am
108.Midwest Fan Says:
March 27th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Let’s give it a try.
2nd – Wiz (trade back a few spots and get another pick)
3rd – Chekwa
4th – Matthews
5th – Moffit (use extra pick from above and this 5th to move up and select Moffit)
6th – G or T prospect
7th – Jeff Maehl or Lockette
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Rd 2- RT/G Cannon or C/G Wiz or OLB Brooks Reed
Rd 3- C Kirkpatrick or RT/G Marcus Gilbert
Rd 4- OLB Casey Matthews
Rd 5- DT/DE Cedric Thornton or a CB
Rd 6- WR Lockette or a TE
March 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am
My main concerns are losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff.
I don’t trust Routt and I don’t trust Eugene or S Brown to be able to fill the high safety spot on a full time basis….especially after Huff finally developed and showed he can handle it last year.
Keeping Nnamdi would be good…because if necessary he may be able to convert to FS when he gets older.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:05 am
DKnight – I could not agree with you more. Before last year they could have traded Routt and I would not have even thought twice about their move. I think both ROutt and Eugene are decent role type players in the backfield but that is about it. Teams don’t fear those guys ability on the ball. You know?
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155.DKnight007 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am
My main concerns are losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff.
I don’t trust Routt and I don’t trust Eugene or S Brown to be able to fill the high safety spot on a full time basis….especially after Huff finally developed and showed he can handle it last year.
Keeping Nnamdi would be good…because if necessary he may be able to convert to FS when he gets older.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am
OK let me say it!!!!
JC “helped” turn us around. He played the best at QB since Gannon. The defense actually respected his QB play. The #1 way he was able to turn this team around was by getting the ball to the playmakers to make plays. He is a timing QB. Once he is in rythm he is a good QB. When he got demoted he stood up like a real leader and was ready to go when Grads went down. He took the opportunity like he was suppose to do. Sorry he was not like Russel fellas. : )
March 28th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Another concern is Bruce Campbell. Is he going to be moved to RG or RT and is he ready to step in and contribute?
March 28th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Again JC turned our offense around
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JC definitely helped the Raiders improve but to say he was the guy to turn us around is about as reasonable as saying Tom Cable was instrumental in making Nnamdi Asomugha a superstar. Our offense was drastically improved last year on the strength of our running game. Teams did everything possible to stop us, and were largely unsuccessful. Our passing offense was still dismal (except for when our Rbs took 5 yard passes and turned them into 50+ yard gains). I expect Hue to improve on that aspect this year, and with some solid improvement from our WRs I am sure JC can put up some pretty decent numbers. JC is the type of QB that if everything around him is right he will be ok, but he isnt the guy who is going to make a shoddy team better.
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haters, honestly ask yourselves, how many games does this team win with out JC? this is speculative, but i would venture to guess we would be around 3 possibly four wins.
Things were not going well in san diego, or kc & Jc played a major roll leading us to huge wins.
For the record, i said hu jack, dmac & JC were the biggest reasons for our turn around on offense. i give extra credit to hu jack city & JC because they were not with this team before last season.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I think we’re all gonna see that Al will prove all the speculation as false, I dont see him letting his most prized CB and model citizen get away!! Remember that it was Al who converted Nnamdi to CB to begin with.. I’m sure he is still patting himself on the back for that… That crap statement he made in the Jackson presser about the value of two or three guys for Nnamdi’s salary was smoke and mirrors… Just watch, Coach will prove ‘em all wrong if/when this CBA debacle gets cleared up… Then sit back and laugh…
March 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am
You are right Al will sign Nnamdi. You know why? A) Al saw what happened with Woodson, he plays like a Raider in Green and Gold now. B) He likes to keep those possible hall of fame players. Nnamdi has been the closet thing in the last 10 years. C)Your defense runs man to man 99.9% of the time and you trade one of the top 3 best man to man DBs in the game? D) Hall was enough to show you that every DB can’t play man to man. It is not easy to pick up a DB and have him on that island 1 on 1 the whole game. Takes a special DB to be a Raider DB.
Nnamdi Will BE Back!!!! I said it first!!!!
March 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
159. Veldheer and Satele too…
March 28th, 2011 at 11:22 am
OC’s move their best WR to the side Nnamdi isn’t on
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Which is why I so adamently defend Routt. He covered the #1 receiver on the field more than 70% of plays last season.
March 28th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Nope. Blog isnt fixed.
March 28th, 2011 at 11:33 am
This Blog fixed, yet?????
March 28th, 2011 at 11:39 am
PLEASE FIX THIS F’ING BLOG!!!
Now then, Raiders 2nd rnd DP?
DT Marvin Austin.
I know he was suspended (Robert Quinn should’ve been too) and has been called selfish but Austin and Houston would be a nightmare for opposing O’s.
His Combine work out was impressive and to see a guy 312 lbs gaining speed and high stepping as he crosses the 40 is truly impressive.
March 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am
JC isn’t even the biggest weakness on this team.
Its the 28th ranked run defense and a secondary that is actually “excited???” about Stanford Routt, Walter McFadden, Tyvon Branch and Hiram Eugene
The defense is my big concern. Gotta stop the run and without Nnamdi, I am worried that the pass defense becomes a weakness too.
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SnB,
agree with you about JCamp. the Run D is ranked 29th and there will be no new starters on the defensive front seven. So you’re basically hoping that Chuck B from the UFL & Greg Biekert with no experience as a full-on position coach can do a better job teaching these guys about leverage, angles, gap discipline and sure tackling than Marshall & Haluchak
Also, I think that Mitchell & CJ37 will start in the secondary ahead of Eugene & Walter Mac
I’m not even worried about the secondary.
Stuff the run + rush the passer = excellent secondary, regardless who is on the field back there!
March 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Bruce Campbell and another rookie on our O-line may be great in 2013, but it will be an unmitagated disaster next year.
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Agreed JFB #65.
Veldheer, Loper, Satele & Campbell are locks to start imo
I think Walker, Barnes or Henderson will end up with the RT job unless Cooper Carlisle stays (he’s under contract) at RG and they move BCamp out to RT
March 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
169. RR you don’t understand how the Raiders D philosophy works at all
March 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I don’t trust Routt and I don’t trust Eugene or S Brown to be able to fill the high safety spot on a full time basis
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I don’t understand all the drama regarding the potential loss of 1 or 2 players in the secondary. Nnamdi has been with us since 2003 and Huff has been with us since 2006. We have NEVER had a winning season with either player. Not saying it’s their fault, but I would not be a bit upset to see a little more focus placed on stuffing the run, rather than Al Davis’ back loaded defense full of overpaid trackstars!
CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt = good enough
Stop the run & rush the passer. You’ll see!
Allowing a QB to survey the entire field can also be a bad thing. More options to check. I get tired of seeing Nnamdi locked on 1 side of the field. Then we play KC and Routt is covering Bowe anyways. OC’s move their best WR to the side Nnamdi isn’t on. Who cares if Chambers goes without a catch when Bowe and Moeaki have 6 each? You see what I’m saying? Maybe if we had a decent DC that didn’t have to take orders from Al and Nnamdi could be used properly he would be worth $15 million per season in Oakland. Until then, let the man walk and sign with a team that has a chance to compete for a SB championship. He’s earned it
March 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
170. RR says: “CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt = good enough”
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What makes you say that? CJ has had 2 major knee surgeries and has been inured most ofd his career (like last year) Mitchells from a smaller college and inexperienced, Branch was f’ing horrible in coverage last year and Routt had his best season because it was a contract year.
Again you have little concept of how Davis’ Raider D shceme is supposed to work and you have questionable reasoning skills.
March 28th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
144.bcz24 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 5:33 am
There are 6 people in the entire world who think Jamarcus Russell is anything other than a lazy POS who took advantage of the Raiders and soaked them for every penny he could get without putting any effort into improving the team, and this jabrone (priestj) is one of them. I dont give a crap what the Raiders gave him in a coaching staff. They didnt overfeed his punk a$$, they didnt give him Ambian before meetings to make him sleepy, they didnt give him Codein to make ‘drink’. What they did was hire a guy, pay him the most a player had ever been payed as a rookie (at the time) and told him we expect you to do your best to be instramental in turning this franchise around. Everything that has happened to Jamarcus Russell since that day in April of 2007 is Jamarcus Russells fault.
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That is true. But what I don’t get and it still baffles me today is, did not he and his agent know what they were getting into? That by coming to Oakland as a 1st pick should have been a flag unto itself. A franchise looking for a franchise player to turn the team around. And it was not coaching he needed, but a life counselor. He took the money after holding out for more, and thus he became liable for his actions. He defaulted on his contract by not honoring Coach Davis, who paid him in advance to perform. If anyone is blame other than JR it has to be his agent. Yes his agent is closely behind him for the failure. Blame it on immaturity or what ever if you like, but he had the network and resources to get direction but probably chose not to. If he had dedicated himself to his lavishly paid commitment, he might have or perhaps maybe could have, maybe been average to good. But he didn’t.
March 28th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Glad to see regular posters staying away from this blog until this thing is fixed.
No reason to treated like schit and support this thing.
March 28th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Doubt it with the money he gave Routt. We’ll see though. Kind of interested to see our D without him.
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you saw what we looked like in the Miami game
March 28th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I saw Mike Mitchell working at Trader Joes this morning. He was very polite.
March 28th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Glad to see regular posters staying away from this blog until this thing is fixed.
No reason to treated like schit and support this thing.
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LMAO! You need to relax dude.
March 28th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Slow down you are posting comments to fast
Duplicate post
This server does not support that kind of language
404 Forbidden. You are denied access
Would you like ketchup or tarter with that order
March 28th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
173.KoolKell Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Glad to see regular posters staying away from this blog until this thing is fixed.
No reason to treated like schit and support this thing.
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March 28th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
166.GoodOle00 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 11:39 am
PLEASE FIX THIS F’ING BLOG!!!
Now then, Raiders 2nd rnd DP?
DT Marvin Austin.
I know he was suspended (Robert Quinn should’ve been too) and has been called selfish but Austin and Houston would be a nightmare for opposing O’s.
His Combine work out was impressive and to see a guy 312 lbs gaining speed and high stepping as he crosses the 40 is truly impressive.
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Yeah….Marvin Austin would be a good 2nd Round pick, I agree.
March 28th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
161.CJ Legend 34 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am
You are right Al will sign Nnamdi. You know why? A) Al saw what happened with Woodson, he plays like a Raider in Green and Gold now. B) He likes to keep those possible hall of fame players. Nnamdi has been the closet thing in the last 10 years. C)Your defense runs man to man 99.9% of the time and you trade one of the top 3 best man to man DBs in the game? D) Hall was enough to show you that every DB can’t play man to man. It is not easy to pick up a DB and have him on that island 1 on 1 the whole game. Takes a special DB to be a Raider DB.
Nnamdi Will BE Back!!!! I said it first!!!!
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Hope so!
March 28th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
test
March 28th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aq8XEJrL0hHMxxEU9QBOUi05nYcB?slug=nfp-20110328_byron_bell_had_a_private_workout_for_the_panthers
6-5, 337. That’s a big center. Raiders taking a look, it seems.
March 28th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Byron Bell has been a chronic underachiever, but he has ideal size and athleticism. The book on him out here as a Lobo is that he struggled academically to get into school and was kind of a screwoff, but he got hurt for a year and it refocused and matured him. Who knows.
But playing left tackle for a terrible offense like the Lobo’s were,in the Mountain West is no easy task. I think he is a 5th-7th round type of pick, and I wouldn’t be mad at taking him in the 6th round.
March 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
184. Turns out the guy’s (Byron Bell) a tackle that played on the left side last year. He was the starting center on his high school basketball team; how Yahoo got that mixed up with his college football career is anyone’s guess.
March 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Raiders should get a comp pick for the Wimbley trade fiasco…The league approved the trade and did not point out to the Raiders that the contract bonus year would be illegal under the rules.
March 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
182. Raiders have the tallest O line ever fielded.
Veldheer was the tallest center ever to play.
183. Good point Dutch.
FIX THE BLOG PLEASE!
March 28th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-wetzel_retired_players_file_antitrust_suit_against_nfl_032811
Could mean an end to lock out…
March 28th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Im confused on how there can be a draft, and how players can go to the draft and be picked. Thought there was a lockout no business can be done. So how can a player be picked by a team. Does a team just pick a player then when this stupid lockout is done talk about money.
March 28th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Hey Jerry, FIX the BLOG,and start writing again! Remember when you were in Santa Cruz on the boardwalk,and you saw a young man sling the football on a ROPE and I dropped it!Well,its hard runnin on sand,but that said,weve got the draft comin up,and were waiting on YOU! youre football junkies are waitin on ya, RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
March 28th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
185.DutchRaider77 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Raiders should get a comp pick for the Wimbley trade fiasco…The league approved the trade and did not point out to the Raiders that the contract bonus year would be illegal under the rules.
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Why should have the league pointed that out? Its just another piece of the consiracy against the Raiders.
March 29th, 2011 at 3:36 am
Jamarcus Russell was so bad that punting was seen as a sucess when he was playing…..
Russell was his own worst enemy….
March 29th, 2011 at 4:40 am
Routt had his best season because it was a contract year.
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OR Routt had his best year because they moved him to the starting CB job. Nnamdi was pretty crappy covering the slot too…
March 29th, 2011 at 4:44 am
jmcclain Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Im confused on how there can be a draft, and how players can go to the draft and be picked. Thought there was a lockout no business can be done. So how can a player be picked by a team. Does a team just pick a player then when this stupid lockout is done talk about money.
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Its really no different than any other year. When you draft a player you are claiming their rights. Thats it. You negotiate a contract afterwards, which will not happen until there is a new CBA. The big difference is that you wont see any blockbuster trades this year. Only picks can be traded, no players can be moved.
March 29th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Interesting story on Cam here, with this writer blasting him. The Sporting News had an article kind of ripping him after the combine as well (in it they cited the old unnamed source who reported that Cam was caught stealing cash from teammates lockers during games at Florida). In the Sporting News they also said that some teams loved him in the interviews, and other teams felt he was very disingenous, but also added that all the teams could have been spinning things to help their draft desires.
I don’t think he will last past #12 to Minny, and I wouldn’t be suprised if he went #4 to Cincy. Just goes to show how important all the off the field, and rah-rah stuff is FOR A QB. This guy clearly is the most talented and accomplished QB in the draft, with one of the higher ceilings ever for a QB, but is nowhere near regarded the consensus #1 (he still may go #1 but I doubt it) and may not even be the top QB to be drafted.
As Hue Jackson said last year, his number one characteristic for a QB is the ability to lead men. He isn’t the only one in the league who feels that way.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/pfw-draft-guide-clobbers-cam-newton/
March 29th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Has this blog officially died?
One furlough and some technical difficulties and suddenly the party is over?
Bummer.
March 29th, 2011 at 8:32 am
185.DutchRaider77 Says:
March 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Raiders should get a comp pick for the Wimbley trade fiasco…The league approved the trade and did not point out to the Raiders that the contract bonus year would be illegal under the rules.
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Why should have the league pointed that out? Its just another piece of the consiracy against the Raiders.
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Really! The league approves and reviews all contract and trades in the NFL. So you think that the option/bonus year was not a selling point for the Browns when they offered the trade? The Browns wrote the contract, the league approved the contract and the Raiders are left holding the bag and the consequences.
March 29th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Good point Dutch. They do review all contracts etc….
March 29th, 2011 at 9:36 am
I was always of the belief that in the first round, you don’t pigeon-hole yourself into a position, and take the best value in the draft. (unless of course you are holding the elite player at a position, like the Colts aren’t going to take a QB in the first round, the Steelers won’t take a FS, etc)
I.E. I would take the #2 rated DE prospect over the #4 rated LT prospect, even if LT was more of a need. The Raiders have/had plenty of holes, so just get the best value. I thought they executed this flawlessly by getting RoMac (#1 ILB prospect) instead of taking the #3 or #4 LT prospect (the guy the 49ers got) last year.
Tougher to do in the second round, as the value is not as skewed as it is in the top half of the first round. Even still, I think you have to consider that approach, and not just grab an interior O-lineman because you need one.
Wouldn’t be suprised if some players were suprisingly available (Maybe Locker, Leondard Hankerson, Jimmy Smith) that the Raiders might take, even though it is not the biggest position of need.
March 29th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Funny thing is, its s imple setting choice. Go in, click the f’in’ box and its done. Stupid!
March 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am
170. RR says: “CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt = good enough”
What makes you say that? CJ has had 2 major knee surgeries and has been inured most ofd his career (like last year) Mitchells from a smaller college and inexperienced, Branch was f’ing horrible in coverage last year and Routt had his best season because it was a contract year.
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Ole,
CJ37 has missed 9 games in 4 seasons with the Raiders
Chaz Schilens has missed 19 games in the past 2 seasons and you haven’t said anything about him!
Mike Mitchell played pretty well last year when given the opportunity and Branch looked good in some games and awful in others. You don’t expect most strong safeties to cover like Troy Polamalu
Routt had his best season because he finally learned all the little nuances of the game and perfected his craft. He was a friggin track star when Al Davis drafted him out of Houston! He didn’t do that much on the football field to warrant being drafted in RD2, but AD saw something in him – same with Missile Mike
Get Over It!
March 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am
If Gabbert or Newton go #1 and the other is taken in the top 10, than Locker and Mallett will both probably go in the late first.
If Newton and Gabbert slide a few picks down (say #4 and #10 overall) than who knows.
But I think AZ and Wash will definately take a QB, and Minny, SF, Buff and Cincy will also seriously consider it, IMO.
March 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am
200. Ha ha got your panties in a bunch.
Your arguments are weak to non exisistant.
CJ had a decent year in 2008. (33 tkls, 3 int and an impressive 12 passes defensed) and in a contract year the former 7th rnd pick had a career year that garnered him a mulit million dollar deal.
2009 stats were 59 tackles, 3 picks 18 passes defensed.
I like him but question his health. Period.
Schilens?
WTF that got to do with the price of tea in China?
Reaching aren’t you?
Mitchell you seem to agree with. Green.
Tyvon sucked in coverage shoulder or no. Burned by shallow slants, TEs, RBs and anyone he attempted to cover. Bites waay too hard on play fakes and constantly caught looking in the backfield.
I’ve watched Routt closely and even used to talk to him on a sports blog.
The dudes not really into football and it shows. He busted azz in a contract year and I’m thinkin he’ll go right bacl to getting burned and drawing flags galore while resting on his laurels now that he
s got his money.
We need Nnamdi plain old period.
March 29th, 2011 at 10:02 am
fix the f*cking blog already
March 29th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Sup fellas.
Dakota..apparently alot of others have grown frustrated with the blog just like me. The draft is a month away…this place should be hoppin w/draft talk, mocks and speculation.
Look at the archives from this time last year. He’d have 800-900 comments in a single day. This post has been up for 3+ days and it hasn’t hit 200 comments.
People have said that they have e-mailed Jerry. The staff at IBA has to know there is a problem.
Yet, there has been no post or editorial comment from the staff at IBA akin to “Hey fellas, we know we’re experiencing technical difficulties with the blog. IT is attempting to get it fixed. Thanks for your patience.” Nada.
So apparently they just don’t care. That’s sad.
March 29th, 2011 at 10:07 am
The over/under on the number of comments my post will appear above others.
3.5
March 29th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Way over!!!!
March 29th, 2011 at 10:10 am
This blog is so over. So, anyone have a take on this Libya thing?
March 29th, 2011 at 10:13 am
@Rockstar
Kinda wonder how bad Branch’s shoulder injury was last year, if that had any impact on his coverage?
Seriously I feel for the safties, Branch (17th in league in tackles) and Huff (29th in the league) led the team in tackles. Branch almost has to think run first.
Love that fans say that Huff cannot tackle.
Also I hope if Huff leaves he gets a big contract and goes to Pro Bowl, so we can get a really good comp pick.
March 29th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Jerry,a post would be nice,countless readers and posters would appreciate it! Whatever,the boys and mr are waiting
March 29th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Ole,
so you like CJ37 & Mitchell?
then why are you complaining about the secondary falling apart if #21 & #24 leave?
Routt & Branch are holdovers from last year and our secondary was good enough to make the playoffs as long as we didn’t run a 5 safety no CB defense, go into prevent mode or zone (which are all coaching issues)
Jhill has film on Tyvon Branch getting embarrassed in 2 or 3 games last year, but for 10+ games he was pretty solid in coverage imo. All people tend to remember are the big plays they see on ESPN highlight reels. 5 to 10 plays might define a players game, but not his entire season and certainly not his career!
He’ll be fine. Nobody in here will complain when he and Mike are crackin heads and Routt or CJ37 take a pick six from Rivers to the house as Wimbley smashes his face in the dirt
March 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am
@Rockstar
Kinda wonder how bad Branch’s shoulder injury was last year, if that had any impact on his coverage?
Seriously I feel for the safties, Branch (17th in league in tackles) and Huff (29th in the league) led the team in tackles. Branch almost has to think run first.
Love that fans say that Huff cannot tackle.
Also I hope if Huff leaves he gets a big contract and goes to Pro Bowl, so we can get a really good comp pick.
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Dutch,
I’ve been a Michael Huff fan since the day we drafted him. I defended him on this blog when everybody else said that we should cut or trade him. How funny would it be if Al Davis would have ignored Art Shell in 2006 and drafted Matt Leinart instead? not very!
on the flipside, we could have avoided the JaMarcus debacle in 2007 and drafted Calvin Johnson
People that don’t think Huff can tackle should go back and watch the Rams game from last season when he’s making solo tackles on Steven Jackson and putting some pretty good licks on him, too! no easy task
FYI – Branch’s shoulder injury must not have been TOO serious. He started every game the past 2 seasons
228 tackles, 5 sacks, 11 passes defensed, 1 INT and 3 forced fumbles over that span
yeah, I don’t miss Derrick Gibson. former 1st rounder is being SERIOUSLY outplayed by a 4th round guy who played CB at UConn
March 29th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
March 29th, 2011 at 10:48 am
A NEW POST……WOULD BE NICE!
March 29th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Wouldn’t be suprised if some players were suprisingly available (Maybe Locker, Leondard Hankerson, Jimmy Smith) that the Raiders might take, even though it is not the biggest position of need.
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I have read that Locker might make a push back into the first round, and could even be the 3rd QB drafted behind Newton and Gabbert. If Locker were available at #48 overall I wouldnt be at all upset for us to call his name.
March 29th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Also I hope if Huff leaves he gets a big contract and goes to Pro Bowl, so we can get a really good comp pick.
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We already are going to get the best compensatory pick available for losing Nnamdi (#97 overall last pick of the 3rd round)
March 29th, 2011 at 11:08 am
SF’s O-Line probably would look better if Frank Gore stayed healthy and/or they didn’t have Smith & Smith at QB!
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My point all along!!
March 29th, 2011 at 11:09 am
RoMac will lead this defense to the teens in run defense this year.
Book it!!
March 29th, 2011 at 11:39 am
posts #210 & #211 made about 1:40pm Central (11:40 PST)
NEW !!!
March 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Better to get the top rated LB at 7 the reach for the 4 or 5th best O-Linemen. Then get a top 10 rated DT 3 technique who can also play DE in Houston, then go O-Line in Round 3 and 4.
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Roger Saffold went 33rd overall and we was the BEST lineman drafted last year. Ratings arent always everything. I am on board with McClain because I think we needed him and I also think he is going to be much better this year, he will silence critics for sure. We got a steal in Houston in round 2 though. That kid is going to be a stud on the dline for many years to come. I think his play was as signifigant to our DLine improvement as Seymour and Kelly.
March 29th, 2011 at 11:47 am
I thought they executed this flawlessly by getting RoMac (#1 ILB prospect) instead of taking the #3 or #4 LT prospect (the guy the 49ers got) last year
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@JFB
Of course you do! thats because you don’t value O-Lineman and you hate(d) Kirk Morrison with a passion …
How many times were Campbell, Gradkowski & Boller sacked last year?
Didn’t our Run Defense rank 29th even with Pro Bowler Richard Seymour and Tommy “7 sacks” Kelly up front?
March 29th, 2011 at 11:53 am
FB HAS to be no less than our 4th rd pick. I’m hoping 3rd rd. Move Reece to TE.
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Huh??? Why the hell would we do that??
March 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Post 219 by me is new but who the hell knows where this post is going to go either…
March 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but did Tommy Kelly fade pretty badly during the stretch last year?
Only 2 sacks in his final 7 games (after the bye week)
no sacks in his first 4 games of the season, either.
Did he slack on the “no chili dog” diet or does he just plays when he wants to?
Richard Seymour only had 1 sack after the bye week, but he missed the final 2 games injured
We’re going to need John Henderson & Desmond Bryant next season, so they better be ready !!!
March 29th, 2011 at 11:57 am
FB HAS to be no less than our 4th rd pick. I’m hoping 3rd rd. Move Reece to TE.
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I agree with drafting a blocking FB, but I dont think Reece could play TE. He isnt a very good blocker (if he was we wouldnt want another FB) but the guy is deadly out of the backfield. We need more creative formations to take advantage of our RBs skills more effectively. We need to figure out a formation with DMac Bush and Reece on the field at the same time…
March 29th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
JFB makes a big deal about the 49ers taking Davis & Iupati both in the Top 17 picks and giving up more sacks than we did last year… but the next 3 OL picks were Pouncey, Bulaga and Saffold (excellent selections)
2 of them were in the Super Bowl. Saffold and the Rams would have been in the playoffs if not for Bradford’s choke artist WK17 game against Seattle
SF’s O-Line probably would look better if Frank Gore stayed healthy and/or they didn’t have Smith & Smith at QB!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
1. Falcons owner Arthur Blank says there will be professional football in 2011 in Atlanta
2. Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams is predicting the NFL will play the 2011 season, even if it takes a few months to work out a new labor deal.
In fact, he guarantees it.
“It’s going to be a few months here, but we’ll be playing this year,” Adams said Monday night. “I guarantee we’ll be playing.”
3. Bills to host QB Cam Newton in pre-draft visit
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thoughts ???
March 29th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am
170. RR says: “CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt = good enough
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Completely DISAGREE with this!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 11:47 am
I thought they executed this flawlessly by getting RoMac (#1 ILB prospect) instead of taking the #3 or #4 LT prospect (the guy the 49ers got) last year
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I agree with this.
Better to get the top rated LB at 7 the reach for the 4 or 5th best O-Linemen. Then get a top 10 rated DT 3 technique who can also play DE in Houston, then go O-Line in Round 3 and 4.
Nobody argues that the Raiders had a great draft last year!
They need to keep it up this year. Try to draft solid FOOTBALL players from Rounds 2-4, then take flyers on projects from then on out if need be.
Davis and Iupati struggled badly in pass pro last year.
March 29th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but did Tommy Kelly fade pretty badly during the stretch last year?
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I’d be happy to correct you.
TK = BEAST!
OC’s started sending 4 blockers his way, especially with Seymour and Henderson not at 100%.
Cmon mayne!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 11:47 am
I thought they executed this flawlessly by getting RoMac (#1 ILB prospect) instead of taking the #3 or #4 LT prospect (the guy the 49ers got) last year
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AND getting our starting LT/C in rd 3 ????
Worked out really well for us!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff and not getting anything in return would be a freakin DISASTER for the secondary and will stunt the defenses development from last year IMO.
Especially with Chuck B as the DC!
Oy vey!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Moving reece to tight end would take away one of the biggest threats this offense has. When he is in the back field the defense doesnt know if he will lead block, run the ball or catch it on a pass pattern. This makes him an X factor. Reece on the field with dmac is possibly the fastest backfield combo in the nfl. When you add our rbs, and wrs this equals speed all over the field that must be accounted for, and puts extreme pressure on the defense to guess right. When your full back is also a vertical threat it is a rare and very dangerous weapon. Remember Raider fans you can teach lead blocking technique, you cant teach speed. Speed kills!!!!
March 29th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Still not settled on who we should take with our first pick this year. Trying to figure out what the realistic open positions are. I think Loper, Satele, and Campbell are starting on the Oline this season so Oline is out of the question.
I’m thinking DT with Seymour and Henderson’s age.
FB HAS to be no less than our 4th rd pick. I’m hoping 3rd rd. Move Reece to TE.
March 29th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I don’t think losing Nnamdi is going to hurt at all. Totally agree with RRS post a few days ago on how DCs would simply move their #1 WR to the side that Nnamdi was not on simply b/c Nnamdi didn’t simply play the other team’s #1 WR all the time.
I’m not really concerned about the other teams #2 and #3 WRs all of a sudden breaking out b/c Nnamdi isn’t here.
March 29th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I like Reece at FB because of his versatility.
If you got a guy who is purely a lead-blocking FB, than your hand is tipped right before the play. It is either a run or play-action pass. I like the versatility of a FB screen, sending him in motion and watch the defenses reactions to see IF THEY TIP THEIR HAND and all that.
Besides, since it is a near consensus semi-pro belief that Reece is no good as a blocking FB, than what do we need a blocking FB for anyway, we were #2 ranked rushing offense.
D-Mac and Bush will do just fine without some 6th round fringe NFL player named Terminator blocking in front of him.
March 29th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
2nd round pick for the raiders. Will be
TE Kyle Rudolph
Zack miller has injury issues an we need a paass catching an blocking TE who can replace him. It’s not popular. But it will work!!
March 29th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Don’t be suprised if we take a WR in round 2 or 3.
DHB was being phased out last year, and he ended the year in KC with 0 catches and two drops, and 1 carry for 1 yard and a lost fumble. Not really making strides at the end of year 2.
Murphy regressed a tad in year 2, Chaz has Bill Walton feet, and Jacoby is awesome, but will always be somewhat limited at 5′7.
WR is still a need position.
I would love Hankerson in the second, or maybe Denarius Moore in the 3rd.
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Glad to see you’ve finally figured out how bad this team is at WR. Jerry Porter was the last guy that even resembled a #1 that we’ve had. If you think it’s bad now, imagine being JR and going out with that group in 2009. He was playing nine on 11.
March 29th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Don’t be suprised if we take a WR in round 2 or 3.
DHB was being phased out last year, and he ended the year in KC with 0 catches and two drops, and 1 carry for 1 yard and a lost fumble. Not really making strides at the end of year 2.
Murphy regressed a tad in year 2, Chaz has Bill Walton feet, and Jacoby is awesome, but will always be somewhat limited at 5′7.
WR is still a need position.
I would love Hankerson in the second, or maybe Denarius Moore in the 3rd.
March 29th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Any body sold on Routt? never-mind the 10 mill per contract. I really dont buy into the completion stats the Raiders pushed around before paying him like he was Rod Woodson. Watching the games I got the sense Routt was a liability out there. Anybody thinks he will play at top 5 level for his position?
March 29th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
239. You are correct sir.
Routts a slouch.
Earlier post about Reece I agree with. Moving him to TE would limit him and yes, blocking, especially in PP is a liability.
We DO need depth at FB though big time…
March 29th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
R8dercain Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
2nd round pick for the raiders. Will be
TE Kyle Rudolph
Zack miller has injury issues an we need a paass catching an blocking TE who can replace him. It’s not popular. But it will work!!
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I’d be very happy with this. I just hope Minnesota or Seattle is dumb enough to take Locker so Al doesn’t do it. I’d love to see Jimmy Smith there too.
March 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Well Jamarcus Russell couldn’t stick it out through hard times enough to be around anymore, so no sense in bringing that guy up anymore.
March 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Unless we need someone to make fun of.
March 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Jerry’s geek squad is still busy playing a Dungeons And Dragons marathon with some guy in Sacramento, that is why the blog hasn’t been fixed yet…
@3:07pm PDT
March 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/29/erik-ainge-on-drug-use-i-wouldve-made-charlie-sheen-look-like-miss-daisy/
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Damn. At least he wasn’t drinking Robitussin. Then the Jets would have no choice but to cut him.
March 29th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/29/erik-ainge-on-drug-use-i-wouldve-made-charlie-sheen-look-like-miss-daisy/
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Damn. At least he wasn’t drinking Robitussin. Then the Jets would have no choice but to cut him.
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Seriously you are comparing this guy to Russell? Did you read the article? That he became addicted to pain killers because of football? I can feel sorry for a guy who gets addicted to drugs dealing with the pain from playing football. Russell taking recreational drugs that have a serious impact on his ability to play football, not so much.
Also, I love your Favre comparison to Russell; again Favre got addicted to PAIN KILLERS, not recreational drugs that hurt his ability to play football. If the Packers released Favre there would have teams lining up to sign him, Russell is still unemployed!
March 29th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Seriously you are comparing this guy to Russell? Did you read the article? That he became addicted to pain killers because of football? I can feel sorry for a guy who gets addicted to drugs dealing with the pain from playing football. Russell taking recreational drugs that have a serious impact on his ability to play football, not so much.
Also, I love your Favre comparison to Russell; again Favre got addicted to PAIN KILLERS, not recreational drugs that hurt his ability to play football. If the Packers released Favre there would have teams lining up to sign him, Russell is still unemployed!
Umm, I think you should read the article again Einstein. You’re seriously excusing this guy?
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“My addiction is with the hardest of hard drugs — heroin, cocaine and alcohol. During my days of using, I was a really bad drug addict. I would’ve made Charlie Sheen look like Miss Daisy,” Ainge told Cimini.
He said he had a massive painkillers addiction problem before he reached the NFL and was drafted in the fifth round. The story highlights how tricky the pre-draft process can be.
March 29th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
“It got worse in high school and even worse in college. By the time I was a senior in college, I was an addict. I played my whole senior season with a broken finger on my throwing hand. It was really badly broken. Just taking the snap, throwing the ball, handing it off, getting tackled — everything that goes along with playing quarterback — it was very painful.
Throughout that process, I became hooked on pain killers. I got them from the “team doctor.” I went through the prescriptions pretty fast. After he had been giving them to me for quite a while, he said he couldn’t give them to me anymore.
I was hooked on them and I was playing football, and there was no way I was going to cancel my senior year by going to rehab. I started getting them from people, buying them, getting them off the street. I wasn’t the only player on the team that was doing it, so we knew people. It wasn’t, like, super sketchy or anything. We knew people who had them, and we were Tennessee football players, so they pretty much just gave them to us.
After a point, it got so bad that I was in the throes of addiction pretty quickly. That led to … one drug to the next drug to the next drug. Then I moved up to New York with a bunch of money, and it was where everything started falling apart.
My drug problem went from bad to worse. My rookie year, I failed a drug test for taking Adderall and got suspended four games. Adderall is like Ritalin, an amphetamine. I started taking Adderall back in high school, just to stay awake — a lot of kids take it.
But most of my rookie year, it was painkillers — and lots of them. I was taking 25 Percocets at a time. Five hours later, I’d do it again. Another eight hours, and I’d do it again. A drug dealer, a guy I knew, had them. There were other social, party drugs I would do, but I was addicted to painkillers.
I had a really bad stress fracture in my foot, but I think the reason it got so bad was because I was using so many drugs. I had no idea what was going on with my foot; I was completely out of it.
I was under the influence pretty much every day, every practice. I mean, I was a drug addict, so it’s not like I stopped using drugs for any reason. Did the Jets know? I don’t know. That’s all they knew me as. I was a drug addict from the first day I stepped foot on the Hofstra campus [site of the team's training base until 2009].
A few of my teammates knew, but it wasn’t their business to tell anybody. They left it up to me. [Punter] Steve Weatherford helped me the most. He’s my best friend on the team, and he encouraged me to get help when my drinking got out of control. He’s a guy I partied with, but he was always under control and I always got out of control. He tried to comfort me, saying things like, “Let’s do some sober, fun things.”
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Again, maybe you can have someone read the article to you, slowly.
“He said he had a massive painkillers addiction problem before he reached the NFL and was drafted in the fifth round.” YES, HE BECAME ADDICTED TO DRUGS FROM THE PAIN OF PLAYING COLLEGE FOOTBALL! Love how you would throw this kid under the bus because he is WHITE, but have so much sympathy for Russell for using recreational party drugs which hurt his ability to play football.
March 29th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Erik Ainge does drugs??????????????
You telling me a White Player is doing drugs in the NFL????
I don’t f’kn believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously???
March 29th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
YES, HE BECAME ADDICTED TO DRUGS FROM THE PAIN OF PLAYING COLLEGE FOOTBALL!
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I’m convinced your high! You’re hallucinating that he ever said he got addicted “from the pain of college football”. All he said is that he got the painkillers from a team doc. Read the article 10 more times and I’m guessing you’ll see the part that says he was a drug addict before he even got to college. You might even see that he was smoking pot at 12 years old. The guy is a junkie, period. My question is: How the hell is this guy even allowed near a TV with an NFL game on, let alone have a job with the Jets? Meanwhile, Dr. Sympathy here can’t contain himself when when our #1 pick gets cut for Purple Drank? What a joke!
March 29th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
237.RaiderDebo Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
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Glad to see you’ve finally figured out how bad this team is at WR. Jerry Porter was the last guy that even resembled a #1 that we’ve had. If you think it’s bad now, imagine being JR and going out with that group in 2009. He was playing nine on 11.
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More like 8 on 11 Debo. JR was playin for the other team. With JR’s turn over rate and the purple tussin episode, makes you wonder if that was part of the anti Coach Davis conspiracy too. Me personally, I don’t think so, but it does make you wonder.
March 29th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff and not getting anything in return would be a freakin DISASTER for the secondary and will stunt the defenses development from last year IMO.
Especially with Chuck B as the DC!
Oy vey!
I’d venture to guess if they leave it’s not because Al didn’t try to keep them, he drafted both these guys he’s gonna offer them something it just might not be enough for them and in that case, good riddance
March 29th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Anybody watching Difference Makers with Gabbert and Ponder on NFL Network? I’ve been critical of Gabbert because of his so-so production as a junior. But I have to admit that I like what I’m seeing. Sounds like the personal coaching his dad has gotten for him since high school will serve him very well. Didn’t watch him in college, but he looks like the type of guy who could be a much better pro than collegian, like Josh Freeman. Starting to see what Casserly and Lombardi have been talking about.
March 29th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Dang near every player @ Chico was on some kind of pain killer in the mid 90’s
March 29th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
LMAO at the players already dipping into the reserve lockout fund, 5 months before they actually start losing game checks.
Only a matter of time before the players cave and we can get on with business as usual.
March 29th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
255.http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-wetzel_retired_players_file_antitrust_suit_against_nfl_032811
You’re incorrect. Heres the latest swing in the players favor.
March 29th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Is the medicine you depend on made in a place you trust?
DAVID LAZARUS CONSUMER CONFIDENTIALMarch 30, 2008|DAVID LAZARUS
Any product that endangers consumers is a bad one. But there’s a difference between something you buy because you want to and something you buy because you have to.
That’s what makes the current scare about Chinese-made medicine so troubling.
Batches of the blood thinner heparin were recalled worldwide last week, after at least 19 deaths and hundreds of allergic reactions were reported in the United States. The drug is commonly used to prevent clots in patients with heart trouble or during surgery.
The Food and Drug Administration found that some heparin ingredients produced in a Chinese factory had been contaminated with a man-made chemical called oversulfated chondroitin sulfate. The substance mimics the blood-thinning actions of heparin but is cheaper to produce.
It’s still unclear how the chemical got into the heparin batches, but investigators aren’t ruling out the possibility that a Chinese supplier tried to boost its profit by substituting the cheaper chemical for real heparin ingredients.
When parents hear that a certain toy has lead in its paint, they can choose not to buy it. But people who rely on specific drugs to keep them well may not have that choice. Moreover, they may not know where their drugs were manufactured, making informed decisions all but impossible.
Incredibly, the FDA doesn’t require drug companies to disclose where prescription medicines come from. Companies are free to say as much, or as little, as they please.
The $650-billion global pharmaceutical industry clearly benefits by purchasing supplies and producing drugs in countries where costs are lower.
But all you know as a consumer is that someone in a white lab coat at the pharmacy has handed you a medication that you believe will make you better. The level of trust that surrounds this transaction is virtually unparalleled in the retail world.
Having been diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes in October, I reflect that trust every day. And I’m not alone.
About 21 million people have been diagnosed with diabetes nationwide and 246 million around the world. By 2020, the global total is expected to reach 380 million, the result of increasingly sedentary lifestyles and poor eating habits (or, as in my case, funky genes).
The glucose meter I use to test my blood sugar as often as a dozen times daily was distributed by LifeScan Inc. of Northern California, a division of Johnson & Johnson. But it was made in China — where, exactly, I have no idea, or under what conditions.
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Gentlemen, this is scary stuff. You know all the chems’ and scripts are outsourced to a lot of countries where labor is cheap, and the country keeps the good stuff and dilutes what you think you are supposedly getting. Be sure and read between the lines. Utterly frightful.
March 29th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/George-Whitfield-on-Cam-Newton-Hes-infectious-the-guy-is-genuine.html
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Nice response George. Let the self-righteous haters hate. Cam has role model written all over him.
March 29th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
257. **** you
March 29th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/10/27/scouts-notebook-packers-qb-aaron-rodgers
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Here’s Nawrocki’s scouting report on Aaron Rodgers. Didn’t know the guy didn’t receive any D-1 offers out of high school. Like the part about how he benefits from a strong supporting cast of receivers and a high-percentage West Coast passing attack. Poor Jamarcus.
March 29th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
It is with great amusement that I read posts on this blog informing me that JaMoron Russell is indeed a great QB who unfortunately was done in by a lack of support from the organization that drafted him and the poor talent on the field around him.
If this is true, then we can expect JaMoron to resurface with another team, salvage his career, and eventually prove his greatness.
Don’t hold your breath, fellas.
Interestingly, the same posters that still think JaMoron is a superb NFL QB waiting to happen, also seem to be unanimous in their belief that JaJason Campbell is a quality NFL QB.
The JaMoron talk is amusing because that chapter is behind us.
The JaJason talk would be amusing, except for the fact that Raider fans are likely to have the misfortune of experiencing JaJason as the starting QB in 2011.
One day, JaMoron and JaJason will both be bad memories in the Raider rear view mirror.
JaMoron and JaJason suck.
March 30th, 2011 at 12:50 am
261.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
It is with great amusement that I read posts on this blog informing me that JaMoron Russell is indeed a great QB who unfortunately was done in by a lack of support from the organization that drafted him and the poor talent on the field around him.
If this is true, then we can expect JaMoron to resurface with another team, salvage his career, and eventually prove his greatness.
Don’t hold your breath, fellas.
Interestingly, the same posters that still think JaMoron is a superb NFL QB waiting to happen, also seem to be unanimous in their belief that JaJason Campbell is a quality NFL QB.
The JaMoron talk is amusing because that chapter is behind us.
The JaJason talk would be amusing, except for the fact that Raider fans are likely to have the misfortune of experiencing JaJason as the starting QB in 2011.
One day, JaMoron and JaJason will both be bad memories in the Raider rear view mirror.
JaMoron and JaJason suck.
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Amen to that.
March 30th, 2011 at 4:49 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
March 30th, 2011 at 4:59 am
RaiderDebo Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/George-Whitfield-on-Cam-Newton-Hes-infectious-the-guy-is-genuine.html
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Nice response George. Let the self-righteous haters hate. Cam has role model written all over him.
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You mean the guy that Team Newton hired and are paying to help him move up the draft board until he gets a REAL QB COACH, had nothing but great things to say about him?
Shocking!!!!
The guy from the National Football Post, Nolan whatever, is one of the more highly regarded draft prognasticators. He said he came up with his findings on Cam from interviewing NFL GM’s and scouts.
And what Pro Football Weekly said about Cam was nothing compared to what they said about Matt Leinart, so spare me the “Agenda” talk.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:09 am
Here’s Nawrocki’s scouting report on Aaron Rodgers. Didn’t know the guy didn’t receive any D-1 offers out of high school.
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You didn’t know this?? Have you being living under a rock for the last year?
Joe Buck and Troy Aikman must have mentioned it a half dozen times during the Super Bowl, and also damn near every game Rodgers has played over the last few years and was talked about ad naseum the whole Super Bowl media week.
We may not agree on much at times, but usually your football acumen is pretty spot on.
I think my mother knows that Rodgers didn’t get a D-I scholarship out of school, and she has probably logged 20 hours of football watching the last 10 years.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:30 am
I’m no big Soup fan by any means, but to lump him in with Jamarcus is very reckless.
Soup may not have the pizazz that the elite QB has, and seems to go with the flow (both good and bad) way too much.
But you know the guy will show up to work everyday, and won’t be skipping film sessions to go sleep in his locker, as Zack Crockett said Jamarcus did.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Excuse me, it was Dominic Rhodes who said that about Jamarcus on OTL, not Zack Crockett.
March 30th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Only a shadow minded idiot, would compare Jason Campbell to Jamarcus Russell. Russell was not even close to Campbell. Russell did not prepare the same and he was not a natural passer like Campbell. Campbell has a grasp of the game and of the defense unlike Russell.
Campbell may not be the best QB in the league but he has been the most productive QB we have had since Gannon.
I know we have a number of good old Grads lovers. But he does not have the upside of Campbell. Grads is a good NFL back up QB.
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262.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 12:50 am
261.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
March 29th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
It is with great amusement that I read posts on this blog informing me that JaMoron Russell is indeed a great QB who unfortunately was done in by a lack of support from the organization that drafted him and the poor talent on the field around him.
If this is true, then we can expect JaMoron to resurface with another team, salvage his career, and eventually prove his greatness.
Don’t hold your breath, fellas.
Interestingly, the same posters that still think JaMoron is a superb NFL QB waiting to happen, also seem to be unanimous in their belief that JaJason Campbell is a quality NFL QB.
The JaMoron talk is amusing because that chapter is behind us.
The JaJason talk would be amusing, except for the fact that Raider fans are likely to have the misfortune of experiencing JaJason as the starting QB in 2011.
One day, JaMoron and JaJason will both be bad memories in the Raider rear view mirror.
JaMoron and JaJason suck.
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Amen to that.
March 30th, 2011 at 8:16 am
#2 was just that… a hot steaming pile of #2. He squandered one of the greatest opportunities a man can ever be handed.
March 30th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
March 30th, 2011 at 9:02 am
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/JaMarcus-Russell-absorbs-more-hits-in-television-feature.html
Here ya go Debo… btw, im pretty sure you could have googled this yourself. It took me 3 seconds to find.
March 30th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Rhodes shredded Russell in ESPN’s Outside the Lines segment. I am sure you could find a copy of that online somewhere.
March 30th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I bet you if I post enough times it might even show up AFTER the post I was responding too…
Jer told me on twitter yesterday that he has forwarded all the complaints on to tech support to try and get the issues fixed.
March 30th, 2011 at 9:32 am
” I hate to die a local n*gga, I hate to die local n*gga, I sho hope they dont smake a n*gga cuz I sho hate to die a local n*gga”
March 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am
smoke*
March 30th, 2011 at 9:33 am
The Real RAYYYYYYYYY!
March 30th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff and not getting anything in return would be a freakin DISASTER for the secondary and will stunt the defenses development from last year IMO.
Especially with Chuck B as the DC!
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@DKnight #231,
You wont know the difference between CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt and Asomugha-Huff-Branch-Routt if the Run Defense finally gets fixed for the first time since Chuck B was Defensive Coordinator (previous stint) and the pass rush looks anything like last year
Dumps all of your eggs in 1 basket if you’re Hue Jackson. How can you “build a bully” when you’re giving up 130-150 rushing yards per game?
Asomugha & Huff will cost a fortune to keep and wont help the Run Defense one bit. I want to see the Raiders become a physical football team. Paying a combined $25 million per season for these 2 players and ignoring more pressing needs doesn’t prove to Raider fans that we’re serious about winning. Business as usual doesn’t go anywhere when the business has been bankrupt for the better part of a decade!
March 30th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Excuse me, it was Dominic Rhodes who said that about Jamarcus on OTL, not Zack Crockett.
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You have a link where Rhodes said JR fell asleep at his locker? Must have missed that allegation.
March 30th, 2011 at 9:55 am
You mean the guy that Team Newton hired and are paying to help him move up the draft board until he gets a REAL QB COACH, had nothing but great things to say about him?
Shocking!!!!
The guy from the National Football Post, Nolan whatever, is one of the more highly regarded draft prognasticators. He said he came up with his findings on Cam from interviewing NFL GM’s and scouts.
And what Pro Football Weekly said about Cam was nothing compared to what they said about Matt Leinart, so spare me the “Agenda” talk.
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So tell me Mr. GM. How would reports that Cam has a “fake smile” impact your decision to draft/not draft him? Or that “he knows where all the cameras are”? Those things matter more to you than game tape and mesurables, right?
March 30th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Saw the piece. Ritchie, a guy not on the team, said he heard it, not Rhodes. I heard Rhodes asked about it on Sirius the day JR was cut and he said he didn’t know anything about it. Rhodes is the only guy on the team that ripped JR publicly and he was only there for his rookie season. The guy probably came on TV because he was looking for a job.
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You clearly didnt read the article. It said Rhodes confirmed it, and like I said you can easily find the ESPN Outside the Lines piece where Rhodes was interviewed and you can hear it straight from his lips…
March 30th, 2011 at 10:46 am
You follow Jerry on twitter, wow!!!
*****
I follow most anybody I can find related to the Raiders
March 30th, 2011 at 10:47 am
You have to remember that 5 guys in our front 7 were playing their respective positions for the first time in the NFL, including ALL of our LBs. Our defensive captain and MLB was a ROOKIE.
Those guys will all be much better this year simply because of the experience gained.
Will Goethel beat out Groves for the WLB spot?
Should we move Bryant to DE permanently and draft a DT since Seymour and Henderson are up and age and likely to miss games?
March 30th, 2011 at 10:49 am
You wont know the difference between CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt and Asomugha-Huff-Branch-Routt if the Run Defense finally gets fixed for the first time since Chuck B was Defensive Coordinator (previous stint) and the pass rush looks anything like last year
Dumps all of your eggs in 1 basket if you’re Hue Jackson. How can you “build a bully” when you’re giving up 130-150 rushing yards per game?
Asomugha & Huff will cost a fortune to keep and wont help the Run Defense one bit. I want to see the Raiders become a physical football team. Paying a combined $25 million per season for these 2 players and ignoring more pressing needs doesn’t prove to Raider fans that we’re serious about winning. Business as usual doesn’t go anywhere when the business has been bankrupt for the better part of a decade!
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This is why I’ve always like old podunkin RRS….he is always on his stuff!
March 30th, 2011 at 10:54 am
271.bcz24 Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:02 am
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/JaMarcus-Russell-absorbs-more-hits-in-television-feature.html
Here ya go Debo… btw, im pretty sure you could have googled this yourself. It took me 3 seconds to find.
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Saw the piece. Ritchie, a guy not on the team, said he heard it, not Rhodes. I heard Rhodes asked about it on Sirius the day JR was cut and he said he didn’t know anything about it. Rhodes is the only guy on the team that ripped JR publicly and he was only there for his rookie season. The guy probably came on TV because he was looking for a job.
March 30th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Will Goethel beat out Groves for the WLB spot?
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I like both players. That is why I don’t think we will draft a OLB in the first 4 Rounds. If we draft somebody at this position and he sticks, it’ll be a replacement for Sam Williams & Bruce Davis (UFA’s) or possibly Ricky Brown (tendered – injury prone)
People who show up here and act like 1 OLB is going to fix the Run Defense are nuts. Seriously uneducated
March 30th, 2011 at 11:05 am
The Oakland Raiders are the only team in the NFL currently without a first-round pick. The New England Patriots own the No. 17 pick, which the Raiders sent them for defensive lineman Richard Seymour in September 2009.
The Raiders’ first pick in the April 28-30 draft will be No. 48 overall. We have been focusing on Penn State guard Stefen Wisniewski for Oakland during our AFC West mock draft series.
However, I wanted to look at some of the other names the Raiders could consider in the second round:
Clint Boling, OG, Georgia: He’s athletic and strong and should be available at No. 48.
Curtis Brown, CB Texas: He has excellent speed and good size. Looks to be a Raider-type CB.
Marcus Cannon, OG, TCU: A massive, strong player.
Bruce Carter LB, North Carolina: Some teams aren’t high on him, but he could be intriguing.
Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma: One of the better safeties available.
Andy Dalton, QB, TCU: He doesn’t have a great arm, but he’s a winner.
Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia: One of the better second-round prospects at the position.
Orlando Franklin, OG, Miami: He could fit in with Oakland nicely.
Brandon Harris, CB, Miami: He’s small, but dynamic.
Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada: He could be the type of player Al Davis falls in love with.
Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State: Many scouts think he’ll be a NFL starter soon.
William Rackley, OG, Lehigh: A small-school standout such as Oakland tackle Jared Veldheer, who was taken in the third round last year.
Aaron Williams, CB, Texas: He’s a second-round quality cornerback.
Source: BSPN, Bill Williamson
March 30th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Bcz24 Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I bet you if I post enough times it might even show up AFTER the post I was responding too…
Jer told me on twitter yesterday that he has forwarded all the complaints on to tech support to try and get the issues fixed.
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You follow Jerry on twitter, wow!!!
March 30th, 2011 at 11:50 am
282.J Hill Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 10:47 am
You have to remember that 5 guys in our front 7 were playing their respective positions for the first time in the NFL, including ALL of our LBs. Our defensive captain and MLB was a ROOKIE.
Those guys will all be much better this year simply because of the experience gained.
Will Goethel beat out Groves for the WLB spot?
Should we move Bryant to DE permanently and draft a DT since Seymour and Henderson are up and age and likely to miss games?
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LOL!
This was SUPPOSED to be a post a 11:50am.
Oh well!
March 30th, 2011 at 11:58 am
If we have to lock out the whole league to keep that diva Jon Condo off our team, it is well worth it.
March 30th, 2011 at 11:59 am
comment #285 was at 2:00pm Central (noon PST)
March 30th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
The Raiders’ first pick in the April 28-30 draft will be No. 48 overall. We have been focusing on Penn State guard Stefen Wisniewski for Oakland during our AFC West mock draft series.
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I’m not a fan of Bill Williamson, but I hope he’s right with this prediction!
starting Loper & Campbell at guard doesn’t thrill me
btw, BSJ is definately the Jon Condo of this blog – Print That
March 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
GOOD DAY SPORT’S FAN’S.ROCKSTAR,HOW’S THE FAMILY OLD FRIEND ?
March 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Should we move Bryant to DE permanently and draft a DT since Seymour and Henderson are up and age and likely to miss games?
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Houston & ShoNasty are your 16-game starters at DE next season. Scott is a situational pass rusher and he could be used on 3rd downs at DE or OLB. I wouldn’t be upset if we cut Jarvis Moss to make room for Desmond Bryant at DE. sign big Jamal Williams to sub in at DT!
Seymour, Kelly, Henderson & Williams = stout D-Line rotation imo … even though two UT’s are in the starting lineup
March 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
HOW’S THE FAMILY OLD FRIEND ?
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whats up Dirt Lot !?!?!?!
family is excellent man. my son is almost 5 months old now. He’s sitting in his high chair eating cereal, fruits and veggies. Sleeping through the night, etc
Loves tummy time. loves his swing. Smiles and giggles a lot. Can’t wait until he starts crawling, talking and walking
How’s life 4 u man?
March 30th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Jamal Williams is 34 years old, but he started 16 games last year. He wouldn’t be asked to play 3-4 NT for the first time since 2004 (when the Dolts switched to it) and he wouldn’t be asked to start either.
I think he can still be a dominant rotational guy, especially with somebody like Kelly, Seymour or Henderson next to him!
the Donks signed him for 3-years $16 million last offseason … then dumped him 1 year into the deal
I bet we could sign him for 2-years $8 million now, maybe even less
March 30th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
ITS ALL GOOD MAN.O-LINE IS A PRIORTY IMO.LOPER SCARES ME 2
March 30th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
2 UTs in the starting lineup were not the problem, IMO.
Seymour was a pro bowl NT and Kelly was at least above average.
Wimbley, Groves, and McClain being 1st year LBs was more of a problem to me. Not to mention the suspect S play which equaled a lot of runs going over 10 yds.
Did anyone happen to catch the Houston game on NFL replay this past weekend? PATHETIC!
March 30th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
We didn’t miss a beat with Loper in place of Gallery.
Carlisle played on skates, IMO, most of the season.
Funny thing is we have yet to cut Carlisle, so don’t be surprised to see him return and Campbell at RT.
March 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Not interested in ANOTHER old arsse DT.
Being realistic, Kelly-Seymour-Henderson will be 1, 2, 3 in the DT rotation. Might as well draft a rookie for the 4th spot and get him ready to take over later in the year when an injury happens or next year when Henderson is off the roster.
March 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:55 am
So tell me Mr. GM. How would reports that Cam has a “fake smile” impact your decision to draft/not draft him? Or that “he knows where all the cameras are”? Those things matter more to you than game tape and mesurables, right?
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Those things matter more to me as far as QB’s, yes.
DE’s and RB’s, don’t matter, they can be as hood or as rednecked as they want.
Hue Jackson feels the same way, he wants his QB’s #1 attribute to be his “Ability to lead men”.
That’s just the phase of the league right now. Great heady QB’s, with supreme egg-head coaching staffs, mixed with a great pass rush on defense.
That’s what’s winning right now in the league. Mike Vick hasn’t won a playoff game in 7 years, and the league didn’t wait for Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to figure it out.
Meanwhile unathletic stiffs like Kurt Warner take teams to the playoffs and Super Bowls.
March 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
299.J Hill Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Not interested in ANOTHER old arsse DT.
Being realistic, Kelly-Seymour-Henderson will be 1, 2, 3 in the DT rotation. Might as well draft a rookie for the 4th spot and get him ready to take over later in the year when an injury happens or next year when Henderson is off the roster.
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Bauce!
March 30th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
With the departure of Rich Gannon the Raider offense went into a steady decline. The passing game became virtually non-existent. The ‘bed and breakfast’ offense was abysmal and the Raids became incapable of scoring points. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say that the Raider passing game, and ability to score points during the JaMoron years was the worst in the NFL.
Suddenly in 2010, the Oakland Raiders became one of the higher scoring teams in the NFL.
How does one account for this and are the 2011 Raids likely to be as productive ?
Here are my offensive grades by position for 2010:
QB: C-
Although JaJason sucks, he did just enough to earn a passing (no pun intended) grade. Didn’t make many big plays, had 5 absolute stinker games, but managed some games well and avoided making alot of JaMoronesque turnovers.
RB: A+
DMAC was fantastic. Bush shows flashes of greatness. Reese is explosive. Unit lacks a great blocking FB, but this is a stellar unit and the definite strength of the team on offense.
OL: C
Inconsistent. Pass protection issues. Not a dominant power rushing group. Overwhelmed vs. Tenn, Pitt, and Miami. Lots of room for improvement here, but this unit did show some improvement with the addition of V, and wasn’t as horrific as years past.
WR: C-
With the exception of Jacoby Ford, this unit did virtually nothing. DHB more of a threat on reverses than anything else. Has yet to show he can make an over the shoulder catch. Murphy missed time with injuries, shows big play capability, fine blocker but inconsistent hands. Chaz, another missed year due to injury, doubtful he will ever be able to stretch field but still could be a good posession rcvr. JLH, non productive. NMiller, non factor. Thank the Lord for Jacoby Ford.
TE: C
Yeah, I know Zach made the pro bowl, but he also had some drops and his blocking was substandard. Played through injury, not a great year. Meyers was decent in limited time and contributed on special teams.
So overall, we can see with the exception of DMAC, the offensive components just get a marginal grade.
How then, do we account for the fact that this was one of the higher scoring teams in the NFL ?
Easy schedule ? Abysmal play by opposing defenses ? Great scheming and play calling by Hue Jax ?
What are the chances for continued point production in 2011 ?
March 30th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
277.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Losing BOTH Nnamdi and Huff and not getting anything in return would be a freakin DISASTER for the secondary and will stunt the defenses development from last year IMO.
Especially with Chuck B as the DC!
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@DKnight #231,
You wont know the difference between CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt and Asomugha-Huff-Branch-Routt if the Run Defense finally gets fixed for the first time since Chuck B was Defensive Coordinator (previous stint) and the pass rush looks anything like last year
Dumps all of your eggs in 1 basket if you’re Hue Jackson. How can you “build a bully” when you’re giving up 130-150 rushing yards per game?
Asomugha & Huff will cost a fortune to keep and wont help the Run Defense one bit. I want to see the Raiders become a physical football team. Paying a combined $25 million per season for these 2 players and ignoring more pressing needs doesn’t prove to Raider fans that we’re serious about winning. Business as usual doesn’t go anywhere when the business has been bankrupt for the better part of a decade!
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Nah. You act like CJ and Routt can handle their own full time and I am VERY skeptical about that and VERY skeptical about Branch or Mitchell or Eugene being able to play the high FS spot? Branch for sure can’t, Eugene can’t and hoping Mitchell is prayer. S Brown might be able to…..in maybe 2 or 3 years, but not next year.
You aslo fail to address about losing one or both those players and getting ZERO in return?
March 30th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Bauce Madness Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
299.J Hill Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Not interested in ANOTHER old arsse DT.
Being realistic, Kelly-Seymour-Henderson will be 1, 2, 3 in the DT rotation. Might as well draft a rookie for the 4th spot and get him ready to take over later in the year when an injury happens or next year when Henderson is off the roster.
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Exactly! Drafting a powerful and explosive DT that is 310 and over is a need.
Big John might not even make it through camp this upcoming year, whenever the hell that starts. Need to draft a young stud to learn from Seymour, Big John and Kelly and eventually replace one of them.
March 30th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
You act like CJ and Routt can handle their own full time and I am VERY skeptical about that and VERY skeptical about Branch or Mitchell or Eugene being able to play the high FS spot? Branch for sure can’t, Eugene can’t and hoping Mitchell is prayer. S Brown might be able to…..in maybe 2 or 3 years, but not next year
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Hiram Eugene & Stevie Brown are not quality NFL starters. Not starting material anyways. If one of these guys end up starting over Missile Mike & Ty Branch we’ll have a safety that can’t tackle OR cover
Stuart Schweigert, anyone?
CJ37 & Routt are solid starting CB’s in the Raiders man2man system. That’s proven. They aren’t Nnamdi, but nobody else is either and #21 wasn’t being used to the best of his ability in Oakland. He’s gone. Move on bro
throw that $25 million at a proven WR that isn’t injury prone. That’ll make a bigger impact in the W/L column!
March 30th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
comment #305 was actually posted at 4:56 Central (2:56 PST)
Come on, Jer!
March 30th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Regarding the secondary, I would like to see Huff re-signed. I think he is playing at or near probowl level right now. I’d hate to see him go to Dallas and become a star.
With that being said, since the Raiders didn’t bother to tender him, it may mean that AD is ready to move on. It seems most assume it will be between Stevie Brown and Hiram Eugene to replace him at FS. I’m not so sure that’s the case.
If rumors were true that AD overruled the coaching staff about cutting Mike Mitchell, then Davis may think he has the next Jack Tatum ready to patrol the deep secondary. And I think he might be right.
The general concensus around here seems to be that MM34 is strictly an in-the-box SS type. That he is too stiff or has tight hips and can’t play FS. I don’t nescesarily buy that.
It was rumored right before the draft that Mitchell opened the eyes of scouts …Bears, Browns and obviously Raiders by running a 4.43 40 at 220 lbs. That not Taylor Mays 4.2, but it’s moving for a safety.
I think the guy has the speed, the instincts and anticipation to play FS. If you don’t believe me, go back and watch his now infamous Youtube highlights (just turn down the cheesy music). The guy is impressive. He has range, ball skills and seems to time his big hits perfectly.
You can say yeah, but that was college and the MAC at that. Look at MM34’s body of work in the pros. He didn’t have as many of the highlight big hits (slobberknockers, Madden calls em), as I’d like. Although he did tag the kid from Seattle pretty good in the preseason.. I thought he held up pretty well in coverage, especially against some of the better TE’s in the game including Gates.
Like I said, hopefully the keep Huff, and MM34 pushes Branch for playing time. It’s time to get this kid on the field as a starter. If Huff leaves via FA, I wouldn’t discount MM34 moving to deep safety. He might be the most intimidating presence the Raiders have had back there in awhile.
March 30th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
307.KoolKell Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I don’t see DT as a need this year, unless you feel Seymour and Kelly are on their last legs. They already have a nice rotation there with quality backups. And, Lamar Houston may wind up there.
Get O-line players in the Draft, sign a Big FA WR, and get busy.
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Getting a BEAST OLB type who is around 260, whis athletic, can fly to the football and can rush the passer and tackle is a need also. It’s a tough find though.
Clay Matthews is a mini version of his brother and would be a good pick in Round 4 IMO.
March 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I don’t see DT as a need this year, unless you feel Seymour and Kelly are on their last legs. They already have a nice rotation there with quality backups. And, Lamar Houston may wind up there.
Get O-line players in the Draft, sign a Big FA WR, and get busy.
March 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Word on the street is, that HueJack was down here today for USC pro day…
Looking at that TE? (can’t remember his name)
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The Raiders do need another LEGIT TE to pair with Miller.
Having two TE who are legit weapons would make the offense more deadly and unpredictable.
Look what the Pats did by utilizing Hernandez and Gronkowski properly last year.
March 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 9:55 am
So tell me Mr. GM. How would reports that Cam has a “fake smile” impact your decision to draft/not draft him? Or that “he knows where all the cameras are”? Those things matter more to you than game tape and mesurables, right?
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Those things matter more to me as far as QB’s, yes.
DE’s and RB’s, don’t matter, they can be as hood or as rednecked as they want.
Hue Jackson feels the same way, he wants his QB’s #1 attribute to be his “Ability to lead men”.
That’s just the phase of the league right now. Great heady QB’s, with supreme egg-head coaching staffs, mixed with a great pass rush on defense.
That’s what’s winning right now in the league. Mike Vick hasn’t won a playoff game in 7 years, and the league didn’t wait for Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf to figure it out.
Meanwhile unathletic stiffs like Kurt Warner take teams to the playoffs and Super Bowls.
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This is absolute crap.
1.) most division one football stars have huge ego, its part of what makes them great on the field. The nfl is full of promotion Hungry ego maniacs, brett favre & payton manning both come to mind.
2. the article names “an un named source”. meaning it could be someone with an agenda, or may not exist at all. journalism isnt exactly chok full of integrity first guys is it?
3. The guys that played with him at auburn loved him followed him as the leader of the team, anything outside of that is speculative at best.
4. The nfl is still dominated by “nonathletic qbs” mainly because of sheer numbers. in other words there are less vick, mcnabb, young types in the league so by percentage they dont have the same opportunities as their counter parts.
5. why does athleticism negate intelligence? Steve young was as smart as anyone and he was very athletic.
These double standards are weak and obsolete.
March 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Word on the street is, that HueJack was down here today for USC pro day…
Looking at that TE? (can’t remember his name)
@2:53pm PDT…
March 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
315.YoungAmerican Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
2 – C/OG Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State)
3 – CB Davon House (New Mexico State)
4 – OT/OG Marcus Gilbert (Florida)
5 – DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
6 – DE/DT Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7 – TE Zach Pianalto (North Carolina)
7 – QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
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I like this mock, but I would rather see Gilbert taken in Round 3, because he will not be there in Round 4 IMO. I’m not a big fan of taking a CB before Round 5 of this draft.
March 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Wonder if Hue had any “messages” to Lance, from Al?
Probably the “your #1 salute.”…..
@3:06pm PDT…..
March 30th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
310. Newton is OVER RATED.
Athletic? Yes. Very much so but he’s a theif who was kicked out of Florida for stealing lap tops. He ran an exrtemely pared down offense at Auburn. Mostly one read and throw.
There are serious and legit questions about this guy being able to become an NFL caliber QB.
Theres copious tape of him not only making bad reads but worse, no reads at all.
Aside from the legitimate concerns over his attitude and off field flags he’s not an NFL caliber QB.
Most people know he’ll need tons of work to become one. Thats why its a huge deal to find out if he has the attitude and fortitude to study lead and become one.
I’m betting no but stranger things have happened.
If he slides out of the 1st round, he can partially thank Jamarcass
March 30th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
2 – C/OG Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State)
3 – CB Davon House (New Mexico State)
4 – OT/OG Marcus Gilbert (Florida)
5 – DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
6 – DE/DT Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7 – TE Zach Pianalto (North Carolina)
7 – QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
March 30th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Or:
2 – CB Curtis Brown (Texas)
3 – OG/OT Clint Boling (Georgia)
4 – DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5 – OT/OG Darius Morris (Temple)
6 – DE/DT Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7 – TE Zach Pianalto (North Carolina)
7 – QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
March 30th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Word on the street is, that HueJack was down here today for USC pro day…
Looking at that TE? (can’t remember his name)
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The Raiders do need another LEGIT TE to pair with Miller.
Having two TE’s who are legit weapons would make the offense more deadly and unpredictable.
Look what the Pats did by utilizing Hernandez and Gronkowski properly last year.
March 30th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Jim Mora Jr. just said on NFLN that he expects the Raiders to take a big step back this year. They fired Tom Cable who was doing an excellent job, and hired Hue Jackson who’s “mostly smoke and Mirrors”.
To hell with him. Didn’t AD call him a chickensh*t lil biotch a couple of years ago?
He predicts San Diego to reclaim the division. WRONG. Their window is now CLOSED.
March 30th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
315.Nnamdi21 Says:
March 30th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
310. Newton is OVER RATED.
Athletic? Yes. Very much so but he’s a theif who was kicked out of Florida for stealing lap tops. He ran an exrtemely pared down offense at Auburn. Mostly one read and throw.
There are serious and legit questions about this guy being able to become an NFL caliber QB.
Theres copious tape of him not only making bad reads but worse, no reads at all.
Aside from the legitimate concerns over his attitude and off field flags he’s not an NFL caliber QB.
Most people know he’ll need tons of work to become one. Thats why its a huge deal to find out if he has the attitude and fortitude to study lead and become one.
I’m betting no but stranger things have happened.
If he slides out of the 1st round, he can partially thank Jamarcass
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If the Bungals take Newton that high, they will regret it!
Same goes for the Bills.
March 30th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Kim Newton was a terrifying force when he broke containment and scrambled through collegiate secondaries. Looked like a man amongst boys.
Will he be able to dominate like that in the NFL ?
No.
But he will still remain a terrific threat to scramble and break long runs at any time. Additionally, he should be able to convert 3rd downs with his running ability alone, and extend drives.
Will he put in the time and effort to master all the intricacies of being a top notch NFL QB ?
He has excellent arm strength. Whether he’s going to be very accurate or develop ‘touch’ at the next level is debatable.
Only time will tell.
If I’m an NFL GM the only way I pass on Kim is if I’m certain he’s not going to be dedicated and I’m convinced he can’t develop into an accurate thrower.
There’s no way in hell I miss the opportunity to draft a potentially dominating franchise QB.
You bet there’s a huge risk of Kim being a bust, but also remember there’s no sure thing in this or any other draft.
After the JaMoron debacle it’s understandable why Raider fans would be especially dubious about Kim and lean towards not drafting him, but I don’t share that mindset.
If the Raids had a premium pick and Kim was available, I think they’d be foolish not to take him.
March 31st, 2011 at 6:17 am
Good Morning!!!!
Post #302 made a really good point!!!
Schedule this year is much more tough.
IMO we,which don’t mean jack,we haven’t done anything to upgrade this team
resigning our FA ok but still have more needs
we play the top teams this yr. So with that being said this team is gonna have to take the next step. Without #21 an #24 ummm man that’s gone be hard.
Defense altready took a lost without them an we haven’t played one game yet
we have to play the pats jets GB the bears etc etc not to mention our own division
so we will see what happens.
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