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Groves stays true to his school

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, March 30th, 2011 at 4:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders linebacker Quentin Groves put up an impassioned defense for his alma mater Wednesday in the wake of an HBO “Real Sports” segment alleging payment to players at Auburn.

Groves described the four players who said they received money from boosters as “medicore at best” and said their comments were simply made out of bitterness and poor decisions made while in college regarding their academic and athletic well-being.

A few of Groves comments on WJOX 94.5-AM in Birmingham, Ala.:

“The only thing I heard guys receiving was a great education, a great experience and great memories.”

“Why would they pay (those) guys when they had Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown, Carlos Rogers and Jason Campbell?”

“You had Ronnie Brown who was arguably one of the best players in his senior year, driving around a (early 1990s) Honda Accord with the back window busted out.”

Groves said he and many other Auburn players were asked to participate, but the only players who responded _ Chaz Williams, Stanley McClover, Troy Reddick and Raven Gray, were marginal players.

He said he was actually close to McClover, and even called him after seeing the accusations. He said McClover told him HBO “helped with my camp.”

“Everything will be out in the open tonight and if that’s what he did, I have no words for him because the simple fact is, if you’re going to turn your back on the schull that made you over something as little as this, then there’s no telling what you’ll do to me.”

Groves scheduled a Ustream video to discuss the allegations this evening.

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  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    GOP Rep. Woodall’s Response To Exxon Paying Nothing In Taxes: We Need ‘Lowest Corporate Tax Rate We Can Get’

    Last week, Rep. Rob Woodall held a tele-town hall meeting with his constituents, allowing them to call in and ask questions. At one point, a constituent called in and challenged Woodall’s belief that all we need is spending cuts to move towards a more balanced budget. The caller pointed out that closing corporate tax loopholes on big companies like Exxon Mobil — which paid zero federal corporate income taxes in 2009 — and Google, which only paid a 4.2 percent rate in taxes, would do a lot to help balance the budget as well.

    Woodall replied by saying he’s “not a fan of class warfare” and that the only people who’ve ever employed him are rich people. He then went on to say that corporate taxes are really taxes on the customers of these companies and that we need to get “corporate taxes as low as we can in this country”:

  • Just Fire Baby

    I work quite a bit with the FOP.

    Those are my peeps, and what butters my bread.

    But make no mistake, there aren’t people being pulled from burning buildings anymore. House fires are at all-time lows in this country, and really the only places that catch on fire are old run-down buildings that they should just let burn down anyways.

    So the need for 48 hour shifts for fire-fighters is ridiculous. When I go in on shift changes at 8am to talk to the guys about their retirement, half these guys are sleeping off the last 6-7 hours of their shift.

    And they are getting paid overtime for it!!!!

    Police are needed more than ever, and fire fighters less than ever.

  • GoodOle00

    This blog is ****ed

  • GoodOle00

    **** Warren Moon for making the Newton analysis a race issue. **** you Moon you idiot.

    Nolan’s report came from a bu-tt load of interviews with people who’ve dealt with Cram.

    Moon says he feels the report was racist cuz it reminded him of how he was discriminated against IN 1978!

    33 YEARS AGO!!!

    Someone tell Warren theirs an African American in the White House.

  • Just Fire Baby

    LMAO…..on the MLB network they were doing the pre-game to the A’s-Mariners game.

    Someone in the studio said that there were only about 25K there, but that they will be a loud 25,000.

    The host than chimed in, “They are all Raider fans…….and they are still hacked off at Jamarcus Russell.”

    A round of laughter followed in the studio.

    I think we still have a good 10 years until Jamarcus Russell punchline jokes fall out of favor.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    April 1st, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    I work quite a bit with the FOP.

    Those are my peeps, and what butters my bread.

    But make no mistake, there aren’t people being pulled from burning buildings anymore. House fires are at all-time lows in this country, and really the only places that catch on fire are old run-down buildings that they should just let burn down anyways.
    —————————–
    What an Idiot! geez.

  • priesttj

    What in the world does a black president hav eto do with ideas about black QB’s from people who’ve been thinking that way for their entire life. Nothing that’s what.

    I think everything Warren said was as valid as the report he was referring to. If not much more this kind of thinking has permeated sports for decades. In this new post racism society as they call it. Their is tons of residue still manifesting itself. In a variety of ways in every arena.

    I listen to Mike Mayock try to explain the difference between Newton and Gabbert and it is downright laughable. He sounds like a damn fool trying to justify a long held belief that the same thing in a different color is much different. Gabbert is unpolished and will take at least two years as well as Newton. But to him Gabbert gets more credit for doing absolutely nothing other than being white. Cam has won the Heisman and TWO national championships and Gabbert hasn’t even won his conference yet he’s more NFL ready. It’s flat out LUNACY…………period

  • Just Fire Baby

    Learn yourself something.

    Fire-fighters are asked to do less and less each year.

    http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/statistics/estimates/trend_overall.shtm

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, por favor, dejar de ser decir a la gente.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, Larga Entrenador Davis en vivo.

  • priesttj

    QB’ing is about competing at a high level when it’s winning time however you do it it’s about oinstilling the confidence in your teammates that the game is not over until we win. Going undefeated in the SEC is much tougher than in the Big 12 which Gabbert couldn’t even do. Throwing 30 TD’s and running for an additional 20 is much better than 16 TD’s tosses and 4-5 runs it’s a 50-22 disparity in a much tougher conference and I don’t care how or why he did it, if those #’s belonged to Gabbert the discussion would be laughed at by all the pundits. Reverse those #’s for those to athletes and Gabbert would be being hailed as the best QB prospect in the last 30 years. Yet Cam Newton is looked upon as a RISK…….lol

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, El Entrenador Davis es el dueño de los Raiders de Oakland. Usted mi amigo, no lo hacen.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, El Entrenador Davis es el director generales. Eso es lo que es.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, El Entrenador Davis levantar el trofeo Lombardi este año. Usted será feliz. :cool:

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, Usted va a ser muy, muy, muy feliz con una victoria de los Raiders en el Super Bowl.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, El Entrenador Davis ha vuelto. Los Raiders de Oakland volverá a ser grande.

  • phatcable

    Dodger fans attack, critically injure Giants fan
    PUBLISHED Friday, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:54 pm EDT
    LAST UPDATED 13 hours and 54 minutes ago
    Staff report
    Sporting News Text size A A A A San Francisco Giants fan was critically beaten in the parking lot at Dodger Stadium following the Los Angeles Dodgers’ season-opening win over the Giants on Thursday, the Los Angeles Times reports.

    “The man suffered a serious head injury during the assault after the game,” Los Angeles Police Department Sgt. Sanford Rosenberg told the newspaper.

    The Dodgers hosted the Giants on Thursday’s opening day. (AP Photo)The police are searching for two Dodgers fans who they suspect are responsible for the assault, which also included the beatings of two other Giants fans.

    According to the police, the two Dodgers fans kicked and punched the three Giants fans while shouting expletives about the Giants.

    The Los Angeles Times reports the critically-wounded man is hospitalized in stable condition.

  • Just Fire Baby

    So everyone keeps heaping praise on Cam for winning TWO national championships, counting his year at Blinn College.

    So I figured I would look up some things to see how pertinant that fact is.

    First thing I noticed, Blinn Community College has won 6 of the last 15 NJCAA championships. So they are a powerhouse, with or without Cam.

    Than I looked at the championsip game boxscore.

    Cam was 11-25 for 111 yards, 0 TD’s and an INT, a lost fumble, and a sack for a safety.

    He did have 14 carries for 110 yards and a TD.

    http://www.njcaa.org/Teams/football/2009/09_NJCAA_FOOTBALL_CHAMP_STATS.htm

  • Just Fire Baby

    Priest,

    The answer to your riddle is simple, collegiate success at QB has proven to not translate to the NFL. Literally, there is not one BCS championship winning QB that is worth a crap in the NFL, although the book isn’t closed yet on a few.

    Here they are in order:

    Tee Martin, Chris Weinke, Josh Hypl, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Matt Mauck, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Chris Leak, Matt Flynn, Tim Tebow, Gregg McElroy and Cam Newton.

    The scrutiny that Cam is getting as a QB, is the same as what Tebow got. The risk is there. People look and see that Tebow’s last collegiate game was a BCS bowl game, and he threw for like 450 yards and 5 TD’s. 6 months later in the NFL, he can’t complete an 8 yard out pattern consistantly.

    Cam may go on to be a great QB, hell maybe the greatest ever. But it won’t be the same way as he did it in college, his skill set will have to evolve.

    Race has nothing to do with the on-field criticism (off the field is another debate).

  • Mistabr0wn

    He’s not black he’s bi racial. He’s also a muslim thats why he wont show his birth certificate.

    2012
    ______

    priesttj Says:
    April 1st, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    What in the world does a black president hav eto do with ideas about black QB’s

  • Mistabr0wn

    KK, you said the recession was over 15 months ago, what happened?

    Pres purple lips is a human wrecking ball destroying everything in front of him. Keep carrying his water you moron.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    April 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    In 2010, CEO Pay Went Up 27% While Worker Pay Went Up 2%

    Households across the country are still feeling the effects of the Great Recession, with unemployment falling very slowly, while foreclosures are still increasing, along with poverty rates and oil prices. However, one group of Americans is doing very well — corporate CEOs, whose pay is returning to pre-recession levels:

  • Mistabr0wn

    Jerry,
    Not only is your blog a fk’d up mess but most of your registered guests are derelict idiots.

    What happened to RMR did his welfare checks run out?

  • Mistabr0wn

    KK, the pot calling the kettle again?

  • Mistabr0wn

    KK, the war in Libya 550 mil so far!

    Way to go Brownie!!

  • Mistabr0wn

    KK doesn’t want to talk about the war in Libya but if GW was pres he would be on the white house lawn throwing a temper tantrum, wouldn’t you KK?

    You hypocritical moron…

    550 mil down the drain, way to go Brownie!
    800 mil jog stimulus down the drain, way to go Brownie!

    2012, right KK ?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Mistabr0wn Says:
    April 2nd, 2011 at 7:54 am

    KK, you said the recession was over 15 months ago, what happened?
    ——————————————
    Jesus Christ, you’re dumb.

  • GoodOle00

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    April 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 am
    Priest,

    The answer to your riddle is simple, collegiate success at QB has proven to not translate to the NFL. Literally, there is not one BCS championship winning QB that is worth a crap in the NFL, although the book isn’t closed yet on a few.

    Here they are in order:

    Tee Martin, Chris Weinke, Josh Hypl, Ken Dorsey, Craig Krenzel, Matt Mauck, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Chris Leak, Matt Flynn, Tim Tebow, Gregg McElroy and Cam Newton.

    ========================

    Troy Smith too

  • GoodOle00

    Cam’s a freakish athlete but at Auburn he played an extremely pared down system predominantly with one read and throw. Reminds me of Jamarcus when theirs a clearly open receiver on the field he simply doesn’t see and throws it to the 1st read covered or not.

    Can Cam read defenses? No.

    Will he put in the time required or will he Leinart out?

    No one knows but by his attitude it leans toward gthe latter.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Who knows, It depends on what Organization/coaching staff he get’s hooked up with.

    But, he’s very raw, and he won’t be able to manhandle NFL Front 7′s like he did in college.

  • Mistabr0wn

    So Newton was manhandling O-lines huh? WOW he played LT, RT, Guard and Center?

    He is fresh!
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    April 2nd, 2011 at 9:20 am

    But, he’s very raw, and he won’t be able to manhandle NFL Front 7’s like he did in college.

  • souldogdave

    You fools should just shut up.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Jezus Christ BrownStains, you’re dumb.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Troy Smith too

    ***********************

    I only listed BCS championship game winners.

    Smith got housed by Chris Leak and Florida.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    The US unemployment rate fell to a new two-year low in March of 8.8%, from 8.9% in February.

    It was the fourth monthly fall in a row. The unemployment rate has fallen by a percentage point during the last four months.

    Employers created 216,000 jobs in March, the US Department of Labor said, higher than market expectations.

  • Mistabr0wn

    It was 6% when GW left office. Purple lips spent 800 mil on a failed “job stimulus” he confiscated from the Amer tax payers and unemployment went up the next 2 years, keep carrying that water.

    Idiot
    ____

    KoolKell Says:
    April 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 am

    The US unemployment rate fell to a new two-year low in March of 8.8%, from 8.9% in February.

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    Cam Newton reminds me more of Ryan Leaf than Jamarcus Russell. He seems like an arrogant jerk.

  • Mistabr0wn

    KK, why dont you stick to things you know such as the barbershop, sponging off your wife, stalking football players @ Safeway, and carrying water for a failure.

    Just a suggestion old man…

  • http://raiders.com A.B. Paine III

    MistabrOwn, why don’t you stick to things you know like burying your head in Rush Limbaugh’s anus.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Transocean increases safety bonus pay for executives.

    NEW YORK, April 2 (UPI) — The company that lost nine employees in the Gulf of Mexico oil rig explosion, increased bonus pay based on safety for 2010, a regulatory filing said.

    Nine of the 11 workers killed at the Deepwater Horizon drilling platform in an explosion that also triggered a massive oil spill last year worked for Transocean, where 25 percent of executive bonus pay is based on achieving goals for safety, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday.

    In its filing on executive compensation, Transocean said, “Notwithstanding the tragic loss of life in the Gulf of Mexico, we achieved an exemplary statistical safety record.”

    The firm said, “We recorded the best year in safety performance in our company’s history,” in 2010

    The filing said executives would receive two-thirds of the bonus pay that is based on safety performance, the Journal said.

    Newspapers around the country declared the bonus pay “preposterous” or “an absurdity.”

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2011/04/02/Transocean-increases-safety-bonus-pay/UPI-49731301754802/#ixzz1IOKENBJq

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis The Realist Dirty Raccoon

    Was up MR Pain the III?

    Scotty?

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think the DHB era is over.

    2 garbage time TD’s in two years, and two drops, zero catches and a lost fumble in his last game in KC.

    He touched the ball three times……two drops and a lost fumble, lol.

    Since he is such a good blocker, maybe we can hook him up with Romo and he can add 30 pounds and be a TE like that guy we had a few years ago.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Ideally, it would be Chaz and Ford as the starters, with Ford the deep threat (an actual deep threat, not like DHB the supreme clear out decoy) and Chaz the chain-mover.

    Murphy as the #3 in the slot, and DHB in on 3rd and longs to block for the draws and screens.

  • HairyBush

    Hue Jackson says Jacoby Ford can be a star Raiders coach Hue Jackson told FOX Sports’ Adam Caplan that he believes Jacoby Ford “can be as good as any receiver in the league.”
    Caplan says Ford’s play down the stretch “reminded me of Steve Smith of the Panthers.” Ford wasn’t playing consistent snaps until Week 7, but made the most of them with seven all-purpose TDs, two 100-yard games, and an 18.8 yards per catch average the rest of the way. The Raiders would be smart to start Ford opposite Louis Murphy in 2011, relegating Darrius Heyward-Bey to the bench.- Fox sports

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, ¿Por qué es usted una persona enojada? La vida es corta. No hay necesidad de ello.
    :sad:

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    Señor Fresco Kell, Ser feliz. Los Raiders de Oakland será victorius en la Super Bowl. Entrenador Davis recibirá el Lombardi.
    :smile:

  • Just Fire Baby

    Though Nawrocki won’t disclose his sources, he claims that he obtained information from more than General Managers and scouts. “[I] talked to a lot of people in the Auburn program and a lot of people throughout Cam’s career,” Nawrocki said. “Talking to NFL sources, just tracking down his background.

    “I’d rather not go into any specific sources, but anybody that questions what was written can go back and do the homework. Close the door and talk to people. But it all comes down to trust — trusting relationships. And I think you’ll find the view of people that know the kid and have been around him, they’ll tell you that everything in that report is very accurate.”

    ****************************

    Guarantee that this Nawrocki, has spoken to more people about Cam Newton than Warren Moon has.

    Will be interesting to see how it unfolds. Will Moon bail on Cam at the first sign of trouble like Deon did with Dez Bryant? Or will there be no trouble, and Nawrocki will be shown to completly wiff on Cam.

    Time will tell.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • priesttj

    Cam newton and Gabbert played in the same system same level with major difference inn production. Gabbert enjoyed an excellent offense with very little pressure on the passer with wide open rec’s. He was sacked maybe 10 times all year long he rarely ever saw an pressure. He was allowed to stand there and throw to wide open rec’s yet he only threw 16 TD’s and had (9) picks. Yet he is looked upon as the better prospect by the GM’s. Gabbert reminds me of Tim Couch and Alex Smith. I remember studying Smith and thinking why is this guy so highly rated over say Aaron Rodgers and Jason Campbell. When both of them played in much tougher conferences and had as good or better results. Alex Smith was looked upon as extremely gifted and brilliant. What hurt Rodgers is his predecessors at Cal had failed and it scared off the GM’s but Campbell was every bit the player Smith was even better. But GM’s fell inn love with Smiths smarts.

    An objective observer could see that if you simply went on the game situation and film that Smith was 3rd amongst the 3 but for some reason (use your imagination) white QB’s are given extra credit for just being WHITE. because there was NOTHING on film that said Smith was better than Campbell NOTHING in fact it was Campbell who should’ve been drafted 1st based on the film. Rodgers IMO was exciting to watch play it was just that stigma on Call QB’s that stuck in your head. Other than that I might have drafted Rodgers in the top 5 and Campbell in the top 10 and Smith in the 2nd rnd………..period

    I feel the same is true with Gabbert he is no where near a top 5 pick IMO. Neither is Cam Newton Cam is a late 1st rndr IMHO. I would take either Ryan Mallett or Christian Ponder before I would take Gabbert. Jake Locker is a 3rd or 4th rndr IMO I would take Colin Keapernick 5th overall of the QB’s. Starting with Cam Newton, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder, maybe Blaine Gabbert 4th then Keapernick, followed the kid from TCU Dalton. I wouldn’t touch Newton higher than 20th overall everyone else later.

    Truth be told I like Dalton better than Gabbert I think Gabbert is all hype…………period

  • Just Fire Baby

    The thing with Gabbert that the GM’s love, is that he has been receiving the type of football guru teaching that Cam just started getting this offseason, since he was 15 years old.

    The Gabbert family has been paying some well-regarded football “guru” type guy who has coached all kinds of pro’s to teach Blaine since he was sophmore in college.

    So in the workouts, the guy is as polished as it comes. Footwork is flawless, throwing motion is perfect, and he speaks the QB “language”.

    I would always look at tape first, but we all know many NFL teams weigh the private workouts just as much as a collegiate career.

    Gabbert will go no later than #4 overall to AZ, and you can book that.

  • Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo

    KoolKell Says:
    April 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    In 2010, CEO Pay Went Up 27% While Worker Pay Went Up 2%

    Households across the country are still feeling the effects of the Great Recession, with unemployment falling very slowly, while foreclosures are still increasing, along with poverty rates and oil prices. However, one group of Americans is doing very well — corporate CEOs, whose pay is returning to pre-recession levels:

    ∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞∞

    Señor Fresco Kell, ¿Qué tiene eso que ver con el fútbol Raider y Entrenador Davis?
    :shock: