Nevada QB Kaepernick lines up visit with Raiders
By Steve Corkran
Wednesday, April 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders new coach Hue Jackson has made it clear that he and “coach” Al Davis are behind Jason Campbell as the unquestioned starter at quarterback next season. However, it’s always wise to plan for the future, especially at the most important position.
Hence, the Raiders have scheduled a visit with Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick, according to the National Football Post. Here’s the link: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Colin-Kaepernick-up-to-10-workouts-to-visit-Raiders.html
Kaepernick is a tall quarterback, who scored a 37 on the Wonderlic and possesses a very strong arm. All three are intangibles that managing general partner Davis covets.
Even better, there’s a decent shot that Kaepernick will be available in the second round of this year’s NFL draft, when the Raiders are scheduled to make their first selection – they traded away their first-rounder to the New England Patriots for defensive tackle Richard Seymour just before the 2009 season.
Jackson and Davis might be sold on Campbell for now. However, it’s worth noting that Jackson admitted that he was part of the decision, along with then-coach Tom Cable, to bench Campbell at halftime of the Raiders second regular-season game last year. Campbell also was removed from a game against the Pittsburgh Steelers late in the season and replaced by Bruce Gradkowski the following game.
Also, Campbell, Kyle Boller and Charlie Frye – assuming he is re-signed – are the only quarterbacks on the Raiders roster, and they all turn 30 at some point this season. Earlier this offseason, Jackson said quarterback is the one position that he doesn’t feel the need to get an immediate return from this season.
Kaepernick would have the benefit of learning from three veteran quarterbacks for at least one season, without the pressure of being thrown into the mix right away.
It has been a long, long time since the Raiders discovered a legitimate starting quarterback in the draft. The past three, JaMarcus Russell (first round, No. 1 overall), Andrew Walter (3rd round) and Marques Tuiasosopo (2nd round) flamed out without making an impression as a starter.
Kaepernick’s stock has been rising on the strength of a solid showing at the NFL Scouting Combine and numerous private workouts. He now is projected to go anywhere from late in the first round to the third round.
“I had a chance to see him last summer at Peyton Manning’s Passing Academy,” NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said in a national conference call. “I spent three days watching the kid throw the ball with Peyton and Eli (Manning). He’s got a huge arm. He’s a great athlete, and he’s got a big frame. The kind of guy you want to buy into. He’s the kind of guy that’s going to rise a little bit.”
The Raiders have enough talented players on their roster, as well as draft picks, to trade up into the first round if they fear Kaepernick is at risk of going before the Raiders pick at No. 48.
Last season, Kaepernick passed for 3,022 yards and 21 touchdowns and rushed for 1,206 yards and 20 touchdowns. He is the only player in Division I history to pass for more than 10,000 yards and rush for more than 4,000 yards.
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April 6th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
A QB to develop would be great. I just think that the early rounds should go to the OL.
April 6th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I am okay with the Raiders drafting Kaepernick, Locher, or Ponder in the second round, but not moving up in the draft to get either of them.
In fact I would move back if 2/3 are still available.
April 6th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
If I didn’t know the Raiders history with developing QB’s, I would be more excited.
April 6th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Please no don’t draft this guy. Please.
April 6th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I like the stats on this kid Kaepernick: 59 mph throw, 37 Wonderlic. He had a great game against Cal with the deep throws.
Here is the question: Where does Jason Campbell fit in? Remember, he is on his final year of his contract this year. Davis sang his praises at the Jackson presser but like Davis has said he’d rather be right than consistent. I do remember Davis saying that he liked Campbell MORE than “Kim” Newton.
April 6th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
How would Horatio Alger handle this situation?
April 6th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
If we move up to the first round to get him he’s a bust
April 6th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
All energy flows through the great and powerful magnet.
April 6th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
If, I were him, or any other leprechaun’s in his family, I’d wish otherwise.
April 6th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Kaepernick was clocked on radar @ 59 mph at the combine.
Can you envision DHB catching a 59 mph pass from Kaepernick?
Neither can I…..
@3:29pm PDT.
April 6th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
With the depth being Grads, Frye, and Boeller, HELL YEAH I’d draft this kid.
April 6th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I would do cartwheels down the nimitz to get this kid at #48 I’ve been touting him since day 1. I’m begging the Raiders to draft him, I think in two years he would be an awesome talent.
April 6th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
64.hassanusc Says:
April 6th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Per ravensinsider the Raiders are bringing in QB Colin Kaepernick for a workout. The story sites a ‘league source.’
It might be true. I know that the teams have to notify the league of who they are bringing in for workouts so it’s possible. Kaepernick has a big arm and great mobility. Great deep throws (remember against Cal?).
The part I find confusing is the fact that Al Davis seems committed to Jason Campbell as the starter for the longterm. So what’s the point of bringing in Kaepernick?
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Could be misdirection and a smokescreen.
It also could be that Hue wants to see if he can pick up a pro playbook right away and if he understands pro concepts, progressions and footwork. See if he is cerebral and see if knows what he needs to work on to develop him and have him sit for 2-3 years at least and learn.
I think Colin would be a good 3rd Round pick….but not a 2nd Rounder.
OT Chris Hairston would be a good 3rd Rounder, and I think he can start right away at RT!
I still think Wiz, Cannon, Ijalana and now maybe even Gilbert may be Raider targets in Round 2.
Gilberts stock seems to rising.
Also, watch out for the Raiders to snag the speedy and athletic TE who can catch in Virgil Green in Round 3 or 4 possibly. If not, they may try and get the TE from USC in Round 5.
April 6th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Yeah Priest, as a Raider fan who lives outside Reno, I’ve seen him numerous times in the last 4 years. Good kid, smart, fast, lots of upside. I don’t know that I want to trade up to get him but he has potential. He’ll need reps under center but he11 who doesn’t?
And to those of you who correctly cite our supabad track record in developing QBs for the last 4 decades: Huge.
Hopefully Huge and Al Saunders can have an impact on that. They at least have some track record of success.
April 6th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
909: funny post.
April 6th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
One hand washes the other.
April 6th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
If we decided to trade a 2012 pick for an extra second or third this year, then Kaepernick or Locker are worth taking a closer look if they slip. We have other priorities like replacing Grove, Gallery, Carlise, and most likely Nnamdi.
April 6th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Why bother? because there is a something called a future and IMO this kid is very underrated. If you can get him now and groom him he gives you a future. In two years this kid could be better than any of them IMO. There is not a great QB in this draft including Cam Newton and Gabbert Keapernick is as good as anyu of them. He could very well be the pick of this draft.
We can get players later to help us this year……..simple as that.
April 6th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Kapernick is intriguing, but I’m hoping Jake Locker somehow slips to us and we get him in Round 2. I think the kid is going to be great.
April 6th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
I am cool with the pick seems like a solid choice. Sucks we dont have that first round pick to get immediate help makes picking a qb with the first pick a little tougher.
April 6th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6299577
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Why bother? We shouldn’t waste our pick. Unless it’s Newton, Mallett or Gabbert, we should use our picks for players that can help us this year.
April 6th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/26234/cam-newton-bengals-would-be-disastrous
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Insert JR for Cam and Oakland for Cincy, and you have the story of the the 2007 draft.
April 6th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
test
April 6th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I think we need a qb of the future debo. The qb listed in the article seems to have as much upside as the three you mentioned/
April 6th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I do agree that having no first round pick that it makes it much harder to pick qb in the second.
April 6th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
If the Raiders scheduled a visit with this QB, it’s because they want someone else to pick him.
April 6th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Kaepernick could turn out to be a fine NFL QB. He’s got great size and a strong arm.
He’s got issues with ball security. Frequently holds the ball like a loaf of bread when on the move. Once saw him place the hand he was holding the ball in on the turf in order to balance himself and scramble. He regained his balance and started to move upfield. Just one problem, he forgot to take the ball with him. Looked pretty comical.
Also made a terrible fumble as he was about to score up the left sideline vs. Hawaii last year. That fumble probably cost UNR the game and a shot at an undefeated season.
Kaepernick’s accuracy has been in and out. Not consistent. Will thread the needle one moment and miss badly the next.
Arm strength is very good as evidenced by the 59 mph clocking, but is not all-world. Attempted to scramble right against Idaho State last year and then throw long across the field to an open WR in the end zone. Admittedly a very, very difficult pass – but the ball came up somewhat short. Very good arm strength, undoubtedly sufficient to prosper at the next level, but not all-world.
Kaepernick also has an extremely long delivery that could present problems. It’s possible with the right coaching that this could be improved, but that’s another definite negative to be considered.
One thing is for sure, he’s been productive as any player in the WAC and has been a dual threat passing and running. He’s also consistently been a winner.
Looked like a poor man’s Vince Young in his first year at UNR. Regressed slightly, before rebounding with a solid season in 2010.
Definitely worth the gamble if he’s still on the board at 48. Won’t be ready to help for a year or two, but the Raids have to look ahead.
JaJason sucks.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Locker has Raiders written all over him
April 6th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
LT DAN Says:
April 6th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
I think we need a qb of the future debo. The qb listed in the article seems to have as much upside as the three you mentioned/
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I tend to go with the scouts on this stuff. They’re not right all the time, but if CK is available when we pick, he’s got serious warts. Look at the 2nd round QBs the last couple of years. Why bother with the John Becks and Brian Brohms of the world? The guys scouts deem worthy of going in the 1st round usually have the goods to make it. After that, you’re probably wasting time. I’ll say this though. A young guy coming into the organization now has a better chance with Hue and Al Saunders then the clowns on the staff the last couple of years.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
this is what most nfl draft boards look like at this point from a pretty reliable source check it out.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/04/06/pfws-exclusive-draft-value-chart-4
young wiz and casey mathews are projected deep in this draft. we may get wiz in the 3rd and if so kaepernick would be a great pick in the 2nd. we have bruce campbell coming in and we can take care of RT in free agency.
April 6th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Looking further than One year down the road with the Raiders, is problematic.
April 6th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Pass on Kapernick. Yes he might be good at some point but we may need help in the secondary and or the O line.
April 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
how about Ras-I Dowling or Cannon in the 2nd?
April 6th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
We must have a better QB.
I would be happy with Keapernickle @ 48 or maybe trade back a lil a get an extra late round pick.
My guy still says Wisinewski is the pick.
We don’t have room for another DL, unless we 86 J. Hendo
But there should be some really good DL guys left @ 48
I’d take James Brewer RT if he is there.
12:26
April 6th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
I would take Greg Little the WR from UNC in the 3rd after Keapernick in the 2nd, you can get Oline depth as well as Dline depth later in the draft both positions are very deep. I think we can get Wiz in the 4th rnd or someone comparable. I think Greg Little is another very underrated player becuase he missed his senior year due to disciplinary problems. But talent wise he may be a late 1st early 2nd rnd pick.
I wanted Danny Watkins but he has gone up the draft board and will be gone. Or go for a DB in the 3rd if someone drops. I like the kid Van Dyke from “The U”.
I want to see a very smart draft similar to last year and if we can get Kaepernick and Little in rnds 2 and 3 that will make this draft. Anything else will be icing on the cake.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Wax up Priest?
I still see Al getting Wiz 2.0 in the second.
12:28
April 7th, 2011 at 12:52 am
If we had a 1st rounder it would make picking a QB much easier – but as it is right now we need at least 1 starter on the Oline, and if #21 and Huff are gone, we need replacements for them too..
I would like for us to go OL and CB in the 2/3 and then add another late rd OL, Lil Zane perhaps, a FS, an OLB and a Passcatching TE, but if we draft a QB with the #2, he better be able to work in our system, and we would then have to attack the FA a little harder to get the players we need.. Still having troubles seeing Big Al picking a developmental project with our highest pick for next year (although it is not a bad thing to do), as he really wants to win this year!
Havent seen much on Kapernick, is he a good fit for our WC scheme? Big arm, good wonderlic says yes, what about film?
April 7th, 2011 at 3:39 am
Do you guys notice all of these details at first glance, or do you do a lot of research? Even though I’ve been watching football for nearly 30 years, I feel like a novice in here. I can’t believe how many tiny details you guys focus on. I doubt the coaches pay that much attention and they’re paid hundreds of thousands of dollars…millions some of them.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:48 am
Personally, I’m not sold on any of the QBs in this draft. Really weak QB class. I don’t see any of them being able to step in right away and have an impact.
If the Raiders are going to take a QB to groom, Kaepernick might be a good pick. But Al doesn’t like to let his prized draft picks sit on the bench. Guaranteed, if Kaepernick gets drafted by the Raiders in the second round, he’ll be thrown into the fire at some point in the season.
Personally, I’d rather see the Raiders take a late-round flier on Enderle or Portis so there’s less of a temptation to get him on the field before he’s ready.
With that said, I doubt Kaepernick is going to be the pick. Very few of the players the Raiders draft came in for private pre-draft workouts. I’m sure part of it is just the Raiders doing their due diligence, and it’s probably part smoke screen as well.
April 7th, 2011 at 4:29 am
2.) CB Curtis Brown (Texas)
3.) OT/OG Will Rackley (Lehigh)
4.) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5.) C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock)
6.) DE/DT Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7.) TE Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)
7.) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
or…
2.) OT/OG Marcus Cannon (TCU)
3.) OLB Mason Foster (Washington)
4.) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5.) CB/FS Chris Culliver (South Carolina)
6.) TE Julius Thomas (Portland State)
7.) OT Byron Bell (New Mexico)
7.) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA)
April 7th, 2011 at 4:55 am
Ole,
JCamp doesn’t have to impress Al Saunders. Hue Jackson is the Head Coach and play caller. the same guy that benched him 3 times last season for some injury prone scrub with a noodle arm
If Al Davis wanted to bring back all of Jason Campbell’s old buddies he should have signed Mark Brunell to be the #3 QB, hired Jim Zorn as QB Coach and went after FA’s Clinton Portis & Santana Moss
We currently don’t have a 3rd QB or QB Coach. Portis & Moss are better than Michael Bennett & Nick Miller
April 7th, 2011 at 4:56 am
A qb with the our 2nd pick is a luxury.We need help on the 0-line.
April 7th, 2011 at 5:01 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Rockstar…What’s up man?
April 7th, 2011 at 5:45 am
WOO HOO!!! I got laid off from the quickee mart!! I can hang out here and collect unenjoyment for the summer.
As an OMC I would just like to say
THIS WILL BE THE BEST YEAR EVER!!!!!!!!!!
April 7th, 2011 at 5:47 am
JC aint long for this league
Better find a QB to throw bombs to THC,,, ummmm,, DHB
Thats the ticket
April 7th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Al Davis seems committed to Jason Campbell as the starter for the longterm. So what’s the point of bringing in Kaepernick?
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Hassan,
I believe Al Davis said that Jason Campbell is our starter “right now” and this is his contract year.
He allowed Jackson/Cable to bench him 3 times last season in favor of Brittle Bruce … AD, Inc is far from sold on JCamp as a 5-10 year solution to the QB position
Of course he compared Campbell to Jim Plunkett right after the trade, but he also once compared JaMarcus Russell to John Elway and dumped the bust 3 years after he was drafted!
April 7th, 2011 at 5:58 am
I think Mitchell & Branch will start at safety. I’m not concerned with who plays SS, because both guys hit like a mack truck. I’m sure Rod Woodson will play the guy who has better cover skills at Free Safety
Anybody who thinks Stevie Brown or Hiram Eugene should start over either of these two clearly does not care about the secondary or perhaps WANTS to see the Raiders flop without Huff & Asomugha …
April 7th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Post 43, posted at 6:01
Blog is weird again, huh? That is why this blog has no traffic! SMH
6:17AM PST
April 7th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Funny as it seems, Kaepernick may be the pick but I hope not…and this posting too fast crap gotta stop!
April 7th, 2011 at 6:49 am
For cripes sakes. This place is a mess
JERRY/JON FIX THE DAM BLOG!!!!!!!!!
April 7th, 2011 at 6:53 am
I hope we open in GB. I cant wait to kick the crap out of the chesseheads.
We will be too fast for most teams next year
11-5
April 7th, 2011 at 7:03 am
We need offensive linemen. No way Davis picks a OB. It’s a ruse.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:44 am
so we worked out two other guys as well.
“The latest to get the invite for private workouts are Florida Atlantic tight end Rob Housler, Wisconsin-Stevens Point wide receiver Jared Jenkins, and Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick.”
there you go
April 7th, 2011 at 7:53 am
I can see us moving into the 1st rnd if Al has his eye on a player he thinks can be great.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:02 am
al davis would not spend thousands of dollars on a ruse. if anything the commitment to JC is the ruse. hujax is a QB specialist and he will have his project QB from this draft whether it’s kaepernick or someone else. young wiz will be available in the 3rd…maybe the 4th. make no mistake the raiders will move around in this draft to focus on QB,WR,TE,CB,OL and OLB
April 7th, 2011 at 8:03 am
I was on Kaepernick from the beginning. He could be great.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:12 am
You dont pick a project qb in the second round. Your second rounder must contribute right away, he cant be guy that sits for a year or two. davis & hu jack know this. Even if this interest is real, dont think you will see him picked until late in the draft.
A strange delivery can work in the nfl as long as it is quick. Kosar, Vy, marino, ugly form but quick delivery. Long wind ups dont work, ryan leaf is a good example. If leftwich and tebow had a love child it would be colins delivery. leftwich is accurate, but his wind up gets him killed. sorry guys this dog wont hunt.
I have to ask this again as well. some of you that are so enamored with colin say he will be good, but you say newton has no shot?!?!?
They both played in shotgun, wich you claim is reason that cam cant make it. You say cam has bad mechanics, but colin has even worse mechanics. Newton has a pro throwing motion, colin doesnt. newton is an accurate passer, colin struggles mightily.
believe me colin’s athleticism cant make up for a lack of accuracy. Kordell stewart was the most amazing runner as a qb (second only to vick, & i mean barley second) with a rocket for an arm. he couldnt avoid the turn overs because decision making and accuracy was hit and miss. Colin cant even be mentioned in the same breath as kordell.
Stop with this madness, it makes no sense.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Wiz 2.0 will not last until the third round! That is just silly.
Kapernickle would be a good move to protect the franchise.
Brewer in the second to play RT is the pick.
8:20
April 7th, 2011 at 8:44 am
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/04/06/pfws-exclusive-draft-value-chart-4
this is the average grade most teams are giving the players.
all i can do is speculate. most mocks don’t have wiz in the 2nd. with this weak draft class getting the best player available is key and kaepernick might be that guy when we pick. no use reaching for a need. remember we still have free agency (hopefully soon)
April 7th, 2011 at 8:57 am
irjonny Says:
April 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
this is what most nfl draft boards look like at this point from a pretty reliable source check it out.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/04/06/pfws-exclusive-draft-value-chart-4
young wiz and casey mathews are projected deep in this draft. we may get wiz in the 3rd and if so kaepernick would be a great pick in the 2nd. we have bruce campbell coming in and we can take care of RT in free agency
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Based on this player value chart, which I think may be pretty accurate.
The Raiders should 2nd round pick should come down to a few players:
1. RT/G Marcus Cannon
2. RT Marcus Gilbert
3. QB Ryan Mallett
I also still think Wiz and Ijalana will be in the mix as well.
If Wiz can be had in Round 3, that would be a steal.
Round 3, the Raiders can get a good football player based on this chart.
Good players like RB Delone Carter, RT Craig Hairston, WR’s offensive players like Leanard Hankerson, Greg Little, Niles Paul, OLB Brooks Reed,
My guy LB Casey Matthews can be had in Round 4 also, which is great value for him IMO.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:17 am
the draft is 3 weeks away, gents!
anybody gonna start a list of “who the Raiders should draft”? I did that last year. Richochet had one for “who the Raiders likely will draft” …
have the blog issues killed off those chances?
SHOULD = Stefan Wisniewski
LIKELY = Curtis Brown
April 7th, 2011 at 9:18 am
did Mistic just compare Colin Kaepernick to Kordell Stewart ???
bwahahahahahahaha!
April 7th, 2011 at 9:29 am
The Raiders need O line, O line, and O line.
We aren’t drafting a QB in the second round.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Breaking news!
The NFL and the players have agreed to a new collective bargaining agreement. The players will get all of the NFL revenues, with each player making the exact same salary as every other player, no matter their worth to the game. The NFL Franchises will then borrow billions from Ch!na to keep the NFL alive and running.
Great news!
April 7th, 2011 at 9:42 am
47.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 5:58 am
I think Mitchell & Branch will start at safety. I’m not concerned with who plays SS, because both guys hit like a mack truck. I’m sure Rod Woodson will play the guy who has better cover skills at Free Safety
Anybody who thinks Stevie Brown or Hiram Eugene should start over either of these two clearly does not care about the secondary or perhaps WANTS to see the Raiders flop without Huff & Asomugha …
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I do not want to see the secondary “flop”. I do like Stevie Brown, Some guys just have a knack for being around the ball and “making plays”. I believe Stevie Brown may be one of those players. Until we get a longer look at him, Let’s not be hasty. Brown may surpass Branch, Just sayin.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:59 am
irjonny Says:
April 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
this is what most nfl draft boards look like at this point from a pretty reliable source check it out.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/04/06/pfws-exclusive-draft-value-chart-4
young wiz and casey mathews are projected deep in this draft. we may get wiz in the 3rd and if so kaepernick would be a great pick in the 2nd. we have bruce campbell coming in and we can take care of RT in free agency
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Well, based on this player value chart, which I think may be relativley kinda accurate.
The Raiders should 2nd round pick should come down to a few players:
1. RT/G Marcus Cannon
2. RT Marcus Gilbert
3. QB Ryan Mallett
I also still think Wiz and Ijalana will be in the mix as well.
If Wiz can be had in Round 3, that would be a steal.
Round 3, the Raiders can get a good football player based on this chart.
Good players like RB Delone Carter, RT Craig Hairston, WR’s offensive players like Leanard Hankerson, Greg Little, Niles Paul, OLB Brooks Reed,
My guy LB Casey Matthews can be had in Round 4 also, which is great value for him IMO.
April 7th, 2011 at 10:20 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz
April 7th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Only QB’s Raiders should target in Round 2 are Mallett or Locker IF they are there.
If one or both are there when the Raiders pick, then they should also look to TRADE DOWN, since teams will probably be looking to trade up to get one of those two QB’s.
April 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
I do like Stevie Brown, Some guys just have a knack for being around the ball and “making plays”. I believe Stevie Brown may be one of those players. Until we get a longer look at him, Let’s not be hasty.
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HB,
Stevie Brown had 30 tackles and 2 passes defensed last season (how many of those tackles came on special teams?)
Mike Mitchell, (also in a reserve role) had 51 tackles, 5 passes defensed, a forced fumble and an interception
Missile Mike is much closer to being considered a playmaker than little Stevie and comparing him to Branch is like comparing Eugene to Huff imo
April 7th, 2011 at 10:38 am
comment #69 to HairyBush was made at 1:40 Central (11:40am PST)
April 7th, 2011 at 10:41 am
I think Greg Little is very similar to Hakeem Nicks.
Big, strong, nice hands, decent route running, good hands…average speed. Raiders need a big physical WR or a backup TE who has hands and has good seperation speed to spell Miller.
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how many youngsters do you want Sanjay Lal responsible for?
I think he has his hands full with DHB, Murphy, Ford & Nmiller!
We need a veteran possession WR that isn’t made of glass like Chaz Schilens
April 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
61.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 9:17 am
the draft is 3 weeks away, gents!
anybody gonna start a list of “who the Raiders should draft”? I did that last year. Richochet had one for “who the Raiders likely will draft” …
have the blog issues killed off those chances?
SHOULD = Stefan Wisniewski
LIKELY = Curtis Brown
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Should = James Brewer
Likely = Stephen Wisniewski
April 7th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Please do not draft a QB in the second round. Sign a vet. Two positions the Raiders should never draft high are Safety and QB. Al has a 100% bust hitting average at those positions.
April 7th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I think Greg Little is very similar to Hakeem Nicks.
Big, strong, nice hands, decent route running, good hands…average speed. Raiders need a big physical WR or a backup TE who has hands and has good seperation speed to spell Miller.
April 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
70.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Please do not draft a QB in the second round. Sign a vet. Two positions the Raiders should never draft high are Safety and QB. Al has a 100% bust hitting average at those positions.
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I think Sensational Queen Sherri has a better chance at getting those positions right in the draft.
April 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Can’t develop any positions when theres’s the ridiculous coaching turnover like the Raiders.
Hue Jackson has to win 9 games this year or he’s gone too. Then who’s gonna develop the QB’s?
April 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
comment #71 to DKnight007 was made at 1:43 Central (11:43am PST)
April 7th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I’m also looking for the Raiders to draft a TE for sure….it’s going to be either Nevada Virgil Green or USC’s Jordan Cameron.
Watch for that.
April 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
From 1987-2006
Higher Education spending up 27%
Prison spending up 127%
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/04/07/jealous.prison.reform/?hpt=Sbin
April 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Can’t develop any positions when theres’s the ridiculous coaching turnover like the Raiders.
Hue Jackson has to win 9 games this year or he’s gone too. Then who’s gonna develop the QB’s?
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Kell made a good point.
I think Jason Campbell’s numbers would look a whole lot better with an improved supporting cast
Look who he has for pass protection and look who he’s throwing to! If all we wanted at QB was a guy to hand the ball off to McFadden & Bush, Gradkowski or Boller might as well start at QB. I don’t think we’ve seen all of what JCamp has to offer
[no doubt this post will force Debo to ask us to re-evaluate JaMarcus Russell with the same level of sympathy and JFB will say that JC had a supporting cast of Pro Bowlers in Washington, LOL]
April 7th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I’m also looking for the Raiders to draft a TE for sure
***
thats what you call a wasted pick!
Zach Miller is your receiving TE
Khalif Barnes is your blocking TE
Brandon Myers is adequate at both …
April 7th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Great to see Gust372 back to show off his low intellect superb social skills and great insight on masturbatory techniques.
April 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
what’s up Hwnrdr?
who are your Top 3 for RD2 ???
April 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
so if Donovan McNabb lands in Minny, do any of you guys want Tarvaris Jackson to come here and compete with Kyle Boller for the #2 job ???
April 7th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
the Steelers quarterback has told a Pittsburgh newspaper that his religious beliefs preclude him from living with his fiancee
That’s quite a change for Roethlisberger, who developed a reputation as a womanizer over the first six seasons of his NFL career and who has twice been accused of sexual assault.
-PFT
***
LOL !!!
Big Ben must think Jason Campbell is a real scumbag for living with Mercedes Lindsay, eh fellas?
April 7th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I agree Kell, 9 wins or he is out.
If we are 5-3 at the half he may need 10 wins, and a playoff win.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
[no doubt this post will force Debo to ask us to re-evaluate JaMarcus Russell with the same level of sympathy and JFB will say that JC had a supporting cast of Pro Bowlers in Washington, LOL]
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Glad to see you’ve opened your eyes to the importance of a good supporting cast. It’s only the key to the success of any QB who has ever played in the NFL.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/04/07/wyche-kaepernick-would-fit-with-the-raiders/
thoughts ???
April 7th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Damn, that’s JC’s girlfriend???????????????
http://www.wagrankings.com/mercedes-lindsay/
April 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
NFL.com/Draft
Team Needs: CB, OL, QB, S
Round 2, Pick 16 (48) —
Round 3, Pick 17 (81) —
Round 4, Pick 16 (113) —
Round 5, Pick 17 (148) —
Round 6, Pick 16 (181) —
Round 7, Pick 16 (219) —
Round 7, Pick 38 (241) (Compensatory Selection)
Needs Analysis: The Raiders improved to 8-8 last season, but fired their coach and don’t have a first-round pick. In fact, they don’t select until the middle of the second round (No. 48). By that time, the top six corners, top seven tackles and top five quarterbacks could all be gone. The Raiders are really going to have to do their homework to come up with impact players in this draft. It appears Robert Gallery will not be back, so guard is a need. If cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha also leaves, the Raiders will have a big problem. There are also issues at quarterback, but fingers are crossed that quarterback Jason Campbell can finally lead this team to the playoffs.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
so if Donovan McNabb lands in Minny, do any of you guys want Tarvaris Jackson to come here and compete with Kyle Boller for the #2 job ???
………….
I do not want him, but he may be better than JC, and stress the guy out and play worse. JC did best when he had no competition.
This blog post BS must be on purpose to throttle the traffic for now.
12:16
12:14
12:13
We shoulda traded Nnamdi last year for a real starting QB.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
JC did best when he had no competition
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so I guess the Raiders will resign Tui or Jeff Otis as #3 QB and Kyle Boller is locked in at #2 ???
April 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
when was the last time a player worked out for the raiders and was drafted by them?? i doubt we get kaepernick
that being said, Al is known for his gambles and i dont see him passing on Locker, if he’s there in the 2nd because:
1) the kid can throw it deep… enough said
2) He was projected to be the 1st pick last year, and Al loves getting 1st picks status players on a down year. ie Micheal Bush
April 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Roethlisberger doesn’t believe in raping women until marriage.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Don’t take any guff from that swine.
April 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Trina is Kenyon Martin’s girlfriend.
Trina is a rapper best known for the single “Pull Over,” off her album “Baddest B tch,” and “No Panties” off of “Diamond Princess.”
April 7th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
81.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I’m also looking for the Raiders to draft a TE for sure
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thats what you call a wasted pick!
Zach Miller is your receiving TE
Khalif Barnes is your blocking TE
Brandon Myers is adequate at both …
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Miller was banged last year. Barnes may play a full time tackle or guard position next year and Myers can stretch the field.
How could drafting another receiving weapon who has speed and hands like Green or Jordan in Rounds 4 or 5 be a wasted pick??
It would be a wasted pick if either were drafted in Round 2….not Round 5! LOL
April 7th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
81.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I’m also looking for the Raiders to draft a TE for sure
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thats what you call a wasted pick!
Zach Miller is your receiving TE
Khalif Barnes is your blocking TE
Brandon Myers is adequate at both …
^^^^^^^
Well Miller was banged up last year. Barnes may play a full time tackle or guard position next year and Myers can’t stretch the field or get seperation. Plus his hands are shaky. He came thru in the KC game at home last year and on special teams and that was about it.
How could drafting another receiving weapon who has speed and hands like Green or Jordan in Rounds 4 or 5 be a wasted pick??
It would be a wasted pick if either were drafted in Round 2….not in Round 5! LOL
April 7th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Kell made a good point.
++++++++++++++
Mark it down….it took 4 years, 283 days, 12 hours, 5 minutes, 12 seconds and 78,923 comments (59,625 of which were redundant) to finally get there!
Congrats KK!
http://www.mdjunction.com/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/images/Congratulations-66a9a81ec2cc6f4d07b3910b0941d0f8.gif
April 7th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
92.DaTruth91 Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
when was the last time a player worked out for the raiders and was drafted by them?? i doubt we get kaepernick
that being said, Al is known for his gambles and i dont see him passing on Locker, if he’s there in the 2nd because:
1) the kid can throw it deep… enough said
2) He was projected to be the 1st pick last year, and Al loves getting 1st picks status players on a down year. ie Micheal Bush
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Ummm….the last time it happened was the infamous draft when the old man Al reached and took DHB in the top 10 and Mitchell in the 2nd round.
They both did pre draft private work outs for the Raiders. Ugh
April 7th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
KK usually is about as interesting as a brain fart however he does raise a good point…how do people who do not own property and make under 200K a year vote republican.
Seriously this is very hard for me to understand.
April 7th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
the old man Al reached and took DHB in the top 10 and Mitchell in the 2nd round.
They both did pre draft private work outs for the Raiders. Ugh
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DKnight007,
Be careful not to write off players drafted by Oakland after just 2 years.
Gallery, Huff & Asomugha didn’t blossom until Year #3 plus!
April 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
If the Govt shuts down Friday, and food stamps and other social services are halted, maybe some of these trailer park republicans will see the light, maybe?
April 7th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
South Dakota couldn’t survive without taxpayer subsidies from people in California and New York, for example.
April 7th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
And KK can’t survive without subsidies from his wife….such is life right KK?
April 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Plunketthead
Here you go: http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/01/al-davis-looks-great
April 7th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Its wonderful to see things have not changed any.
KK
Post some more pics, will ya?
April 7th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
KK,
The only problem I have with the government shutting down is that it always starts up again!
April 7th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Myers can’t stretch the field or get seperation.
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DKnight007,
thats expecting a lot from a backup TE, no?
not every team has a Joel Dreessen (Texans) or Jimmy Graham (Saints) sitting on the bench awaiting an opportunity
Brandon Myers was a 6th round pick and he’s decent at catching passes and blocking. Backup quality, for sure.
We don’t need to have 2 starter quality TE’s unless you’re expecting to lose Zach Miller next season …
April 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I was at chinamart getting some cheap crap and they had tons of freeze dried food in gallon containers. Then I came home and saw Glen Beck. Tomorrow I am gonna go back and buy some beans, rice and freeze dried pancakes because the devil is coming our way.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Speaking of money, we actually got some decent dirtweed in town.
Hope everyone else is as mellow as I am.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
This is my Boy! Watched him his whole college career, never missed a game. The kid is good for 1-3 TDs a game by himself. With out him UNR had Nothing! He is a game changer. Think Micheal Vick but bigger and a cat lover.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Mallet is gone before kappi. I don’t know if QB is our issue tho…. LB,LB,CB,S,DT and that is just on Defense. Geez
April 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
On O needs are….
QB,OG,TE,WR
April 7th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
And if Bush walks add RB to the list…
April 7th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
76.KoolKell Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Can’t develop any positions when theres’s the ridiculous coaching turnover like the Raiders.
Hue Jackson has to win 9 games this year or he’s gone too. Then who’s gonna develop the QB’s?
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And yet, somehow I feel the RB position has been developed. Go figure.
As for Jackson, he gets at least two seasons and you know it. And besides, would it kill you to be a little optimistic?
Speaking of which, where’s the other negative nancy, aka RMR?
April 7th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Blog times are F’ed up..
April 7th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Pay Aso, Bush, and Huff. Get Kappy, Wiz 2.0 and CB,FB,LB and I’m happy. Look for the best avail DT in FA.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
21 days to the draft,
of course that means 23 days for Raider Nation unless we move up into the 1st round.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
http://thedesignmorgue.blogspot.com/2011/03/satin-baseball-uniforms.html
Nice old school unis
April 7th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Cliff Branch of Russell:
What are your thoughts about JaMarcus Russell?
He was the quickest #1 pick to ever be released. His preparation, he wasn’t prepared. Being a #1 draft choice, he should have been watching film. He should have been another Peyton Manning; he didn’t put in enough effort. You could tell that he showed glimpses the year before when they beat Houston and Tampa Bay. He had to go because the Raiders Nation didn’t like him at all. If they would have brought him back the Raiders wouldn’t have sold any tickets because they hated him. His work ethic had to be the worse man. He could open up the game and throw an interception or fumble, and give the ball to the defense on the opening series almost every time. He had all the talent in the world, but he didn’t prepare himself at all. Russell was a party boy, they gave him all this money. He really set the Raiders back because he was supposed to be their franchise QB.
April 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
using the value chart as a reference. i say:
2nd-colin kaepernick/ryan mallett
3rd-stefan wiz
4th-casey mathews
this is possible with this years draft needs and values. either way we MUST take the best player available regardless of position with all of our free agents this season. either that or trade down of course to get more picks and the players we want. either way this draft will be interesting
April 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
DK’s udpated Raider Mock 4.0
Round 2- RT/G Marcus Cannon, RT Marcus Gilbert, C/G Stefan Wisnewski, OLB Brooks Reed,
Round 3- RT Chris Hairston, WR Leanard Hankerson, WR Greg Little, RB Delone Carter, RT James Brewer
Round 4- LB Casey Matthews, TE Virgil Green, CB Chimdi Chekwa, LB Dontay Moch, CB Jalil Brown
Round 5- DT/DE Cedric Thornton, TE Jordan Cameron, CB Rashad Carmichael, DT/DE Karl Klug, DT Ian Williams
April 7th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Kapernick may not last until #48, IMO.
Wiz will not be drafted in the second round (three draft “guru’s” Mayock, McShay and Kiper all don’t have him in their top 100, which would mean he could be a 4th rounder).
But I do think Al will go with a skill-player in the second round. QB or WR, maybe a DB.
April 7th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
If Wiz 2.0 lasts until Round 3, that would be fantastic for the Raiders.
As for Round 2 – Marcus Cannon, Curtis Brown, Jon Baldwin, Davon House, and Clint Boling should all be in play for the Raiders. Maybe even Rodney Hudson if the coaching staff thinks he can play C.
April 7th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Kaepernick could be a possible 3rd Round pick for Raiders also in my mock.
April 7th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
122.irjonny Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
using the value chart as a reference. i say:
2nd-colin kaepernick/ryan mallett
3rd-stefan wiz
4th-casey mathews
this is possible with this years draft needs and values. either way we MUST take the best player available regardless of position with all of our free agents this season. either that or trade down of course to get more picks and the players we want. either way this draft will be interesting
^^^^^^^^
Possible….based on the draft value chart.
I think I would rather take RT Cannon or RT Gilbert in Round 2 ahead of Kaeprnick though.
Then in Round 3 take Wiz and in Round 4 take Casey Matthews.
That would be solid 1st 3 picks for the Raiders IMO.
April 7th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
JC did best when he had no competition
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so I guess the Raiders will resign Tui or Jeff Otis as #3 QB and Kyle Boller is locked in at #2 ???
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It don’t matter.
We just need to find a real QB, and fast!
5:30
April 7th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
If the Raiders keep Nnamdi, the only thing they need in the draft is O-line depth.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Mistic1
I read your post comparing Colin K to Kordell Stewart, I personal don’t see that at all. I also disagree that Cam is not as good as Colin I frankly think Cam Newton could be a superstar.
As far as a 2nd rnd pick must be an immediate starter is just your point of view. As far as I’ve always believed when drafting any player you have to take into what position they play. Carson Palmer was drafted No 1 overall and sat a year the same is true with D McNabb. The QB position is such a difficult position that in some cases it demands he sit a year or two. Kenny Stabler sat for 4 years and Aaron Rodgers sat for three.
I think it’s perfectly fine if Keapernick is selected that he sit 2 years under Campbell and learn I think it is the opportune time to do just that. The best gtime to draft a QB is when you don’t need him to start right away. Because in most cases that does more harm than good. So it really boils down to the team and player and what their needs are.
With a quality starter in place in Jason Campbell allows the Raiders to continue to biuld the organization. QB depth is critical to any team any CK would give us quality depth as well as potential greatness at that position for the future.
The middle rnds in this draft can be used to get help on both lines or a quality WR. We’ve shown that to be the case in the past 2 years with Veldheer, Houston, Shauaghnessy, Campbell, Henderson, Murphy and JFord. There is no need to panic if we get a QB at #48 expecially if that QB has the potential for greatness.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
When I look at Kaepernick as a prospect I see a big athletic kid who’s very raw. Has a cannon arm that is much m ore accurate than has been said in here. he is more accurate than the guys that are rated much higher. I think the best arms in this draft belong to Mallett and Kaepernick as far as accuracy I feel the same is true with those two. I’ve watched Kaepernick throw on the run and in the pocket plenty Kaepernick is accurate in both instances while Mallet is the most accurate QB from the pocket in this draft.
If you set aside Kaepernicks delivery I would rate him right along side Gabbert In terms of athleticism, arm strength,accuracy, and maybe give Colin the edge in competiveness. Gabbert the edge in decision making. Colin Kaepernick IMO is right there with Cam Newton, Ryan Mallett, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder. It is not nearly as wide a division in those players as the experts think.
I don’t think Blaine Gabbert nor Cam Newton are high 1st rnd picks. I think the NEED for a signal caller and the demand to fill that position PUSHES trhem up there. The same as did Alex Smith the niners desparately needed a QB and had to reach for him. Cam Newton shouldn’t be drafted higher than either Rodgers or Campbell were drafted and neither should Gabbert.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Priesttj,
I may have been unclear. I think Cam newton is by far the best qb in the draft and i believe he will be an unbelievable star in the nfl. I only pointed out what others on this blog use as knocks against him. they say he has bad mechanics and he plays in shot gun so & so on. I wonder why some of those same bloggers that have issue with these so called flaws in Cams game, dont hold colin to that same level of scrutiny. Not only does colin play in the pistol spread, but he has even worse mechanincs & a strange wind up throwing motion along with accuracy issues. yet people cam will fail but they are so high on colin.
Also I used Kordell as an example of a qb that was an athletic freak that was hot and cold with accuracy. Colin is athletically gifted, but not in the same category as kordell. This means that colins accuracy problems will be even more pronounced. i dont think colin will ever even be as good as kordell was. They both had rocket arms, but scatter shot accuracy. Colin doesnt compare to kordell outside of these two traits.
I think based on our 8-8 finish we should spend our 2nd round pick on a player that can contribute if not start right away, and should avaoid drafting a qb that early all together. i would rather use the 2nd & 3rd on a need position, oline, db, olb. If your going to take a project qb take him in the 7th or sign undrafted free agent.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Colins throwing motion is a huge issue for me. Long wind up deliveries are trouble in the nfl, i only can think of one qb that got away with that on a consistent basis, Randall cunningham.
Maybe colin could one day be a poor mans cunningham.
April 7th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Some info on a WR Raiders worked out
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110405/PKR01/304060033/1058/UW-Stevens-Point-WR-seeks-catch-scouts-attention
April 7th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
If the Raiders keep Nnamdi, the only thing they need in the draft is O-line depth.
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Kell, what do we do about QB then?
I don’t think Kaepernickle will be around @ 48. QB’s are too hard to get/find. There are several late first to middle second QB’s this year. Take the best fit ,even if we hotta move up, let him sit a year. Problem is JC will not sign a one year deal after this season. If he is better than last year he will want a long term deal, and some big bucks. He ain’t worth it. So the Sophmore QB would have to start year two.
8:02
April 7th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
colin is a good choice and im glad we are looking at him. u can draft whoever u want whenever. people think we should take an olineman just cuz we need one. i wouldnt pass up marvin austin for any of these olineman but alot in here would. the draft is about getting players not positions. stock piling your team with talent also gives u flexibility in trades. u also want to get as many guys with star potential as possible. who cares where and when u get a player just get em!!
April 7th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Mistic1 Then I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree with Colin. I didn’t ever see the accuracy isuues you allude to and I watched the kid several times. He’s accurate in and outside the pocket you don’t pass for over 10,000 yards being a low % passer. Watch the film then tell me he’s not accurate I saw the kid destroy Cal Berkeley. His windup is a problem but more so if he’s a statuesgue player. The reason the long windup wasn’t a problem for Cunningham is because was a double threat, he could run. Same with this kid if you rush him out of control your defense will pay.
I think you are vastly underestimating Colin Kaepernick but I’ll bet the scouts at 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway aren’t. In particularly one head scout Mr Davis.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
The thing with Colin, is that he is not consistantly inaccurate, but when he is inaccurate, he just unleashes some horrific wobblers.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Mark me down for Kap. I live in Reno and not only is he a quality athlete, but a standout person. He’s got the size, the arm, he’s a GREAT runner. Draft him at #48, and let him learn and develop for a year or two. I agree we can address our OL issues after that.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Franklin, Gilbert, or Brewer look like good RT for our team. I hope we get one of them. Gilbert being the best fit.
The value looks to be on the D-line this year in the second round. We will need DT’s in soon.
I can see Houston moving inside once Seymour, or Kelly leave.
8:29
April 7th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
going with Dknight007’s mock i would personally go with this:
2nd-Marcus Cannon RT (bookend tackles?)
3rd-Greg Little (beast) WR
4th-Casey Mathews OLB (w/ wimbley and mclain would be sick)
5th-Jordon Cameron TE ( we DO need another TE)
6th and 7th- more DB depth.
then focus on G,DT,QB, in free agency
i think we could do alright with CJ37 and Routte at corners, however without a 1st rounder to sign this year we might be the only team in the NFL able to sign Aso. who knows i wish free agency was in effect would make it a lot easier to fill needs in the draft.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Priestt,
Ill take your word for it, could be the few times i saw over the last two seasons i just caught him having off games, perhaps too small a sample size to make a fair judgement. his numbers are eye popping for sure. Cunningham was the truth, colin reminds me of randall with his size mobility and arm strength.
April 7th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
No doubt Mr. Davis & Hu Jack know better than I do, so If they end up liking the kid, there must be real nfl talent there.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Mistic1
I’ve been selling the Raiders on Kaepernick since mid season and they’re finally starting to listen. This kid is rare he’s just raw in terms of technigue but IMO he and Cam Newton are the two most competive QB’s in this draft, the kid is a winner. Nevada was a joke before he got there.
Randall is a very good comparison because they’re both rated very similarly. They have rare size speed ratio. They have very strong accurate arms and very competitive. I saw Randall as a collegiate QB at Las Vegas and yes the similarities are striking. We passed on Randall don’t expect us to do so with Kaepernick.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
the draft is about getting players not positions.
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Bingo Armond.
At least at the top of your draft, you have to let the draft work towards you and play your hand the best you can.
You want to draft a OG in round 5, than fine no big deal.
But don’t just freak out and draft a Darius Heyward-Bey at #7 because you need a WR, when he has no business being drafted #7.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
For the record, I said the Raiders would draft either Crabs or DHB in 2008, and nailed they would draft RoMac, before the 2009 season ended.
#48 will be a QB, unless Colin, Mallet, Locker and Ponder are all of the board.
Book it.
April 7th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Mistic1
I’ve been selling the Raiders on Kaepernick since mid season and they’re finally starting to listen.
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Priesttj
I guess you also sold Al Davis on DHB, whom you said reminded you of Jerry Rice.
Maybe it’s you we need to fire?
April 7th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Dutch,
Cliff Branch is an idiot. Al Davis set the Raiders back by drafting JaMarcus Russell, despite Russell’s only proven skill at that point being his ability to launch a football 50 yards. He knew nothing about Russell, other than that Russell had an arm. As many of Al’s supporters have said, Al likes to gamble. And it was his gamble that set the Raiders back, not Russell.
I saw Cliff Branch get interviewed during one of those nauseating pre season telecasts a couple of years ago. Branch responded to every question related to the team’s prospects with, “As long as Mr. Davis is here, everything’s going to be fine”. I think this was around year 5 of the 8 (and counting) year drought without a winning season. Whatever you have to say to keep your kush job with the Raiders, nimrod.
April 7th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Isn’t M. Cannon better suited to play RG?
There should be some good RT’s and DL guys to be had in the Second.
How big is Wiz really? 6′2″ 290#’s? Or 6′3″ 310?
April 7th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Priesttj,
Al Davis doesn’t give a schit about you. You’re just a Johnnie come lately, hanger on.
April 7th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
BTW, Dutch, I’m calling Branch the nimrod, not you. LOL.
April 7th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
KK at least I know enough that they actually talk to me, while you stay in here and berate someone who doesn’t even know you exist. lol
April 8th, 2011 at 2:14 am
Oh, ok. New rule in here, everyone. You can’t berate anyone, even a public figure, unless they know you exist. That would also be the official end of this blog. Goodnight, folks.
April 8th, 2011 at 4:18 am
Hey Jerry…isn’t it time for draft prospects/mock draft post?
Just curious…with the draft being a couple of weeks away and all.
April 8th, 2011 at 5:09 am
Good Morning Nation! Happy Aloha Friday!
April 8th, 2011 at 5:32 am
LOL…Good Morning Ray! No, I don’t, but I am dressed down!
April 8th, 2011 at 5:33 am
and the blog just reverted again… 6:34AM PST
April 8th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Looks like we are going to have to wait for Daylight Savings in order for this stinkin blog to get fixed. Wouldnt it just be easier for them to take the time stamp off until the fix the problem?
April 8th, 2011 at 5:55 am
And what is funny is that I have seen Jerry’s response to you about he forwarded over all the complaints and its out of his hands!
April 8th, 2011 at 5:59 am
I am certain they are aware of the issue. They just are uninterested in fixing it.
April 8th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Aloha Hwnrdr!
Got your Hawaiian shirt on today?
April 8th, 2011 at 6:39 am
lets get this straight; 2nd rounder…either he sacks, intercepts, catches or returns kicks.
reasoning; see Robert Gallery and Jake Grove. reasoning 2; see Kwame Harris, FA
how many former first rounders on either Packers or Steelers front line? (remember Pouncey was hurt) RG Josh Sitton came out of nowhere, so did Patriots OT Sebastian Vollmer.
some teams can develop o-linemen, this team isnt one of them….so look for o-line at rounds 4-6
April 8th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Maybe by ignoring Jerry’s request to fix his blog and by sending Jerry on furloughs and “vacations” IBA is trying to send a message to Jerry that the end of this blog is near????
April 8th, 2011 at 6:46 am
The end of the blog? 12/21/2012? Just kidding…
7:47AM
April 8th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Best player available. Get Gaither in free agency, move Veldheer to right side..
April 8th, 2011 at 7:17 am
There is fundamentally only one way to run this draft in the raiders position this year, bare with me for a minute.
the raiders have 20+ free agents this year. there is no free agency before the draft, so now the draft decides who we keep and who we don’t…period. in other words we HAVE to take the best PLAYER available at each pick regardless of position. so if at #48 Mark Ingram is available and he is the top of the raiders board we HAVE to do it and let Bush go.
I’m not saying i want mark ingram on the team i would rather keep bush and use the pick on another position, but this draft is the opposite of other drafts where you get free agents then evaluate your remaining needs for the draft. this time around we have to get the best players and then evaluate our needs come free agency. i don’t like it personally since teams can really lose out in free agency, but with no 1st rnd pick to pay the raiders are in a good position to capitalize in free agency this year.
April 8th, 2011 at 7:31 am
If we draft this QB I vote we call him K-nick…..easier that way….
April 8th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Gust372 Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Dutch,
Cliff Branch is an idiot. Al Davis set the Raiders back by drafting JaMarcus Russell, despite Russell’s only proven skill at that point being his ability to launch a football 50 yards. He knew nothing about Russell, other than that Russell had an arm. As many of Al’s supporters have said, Al likes to gamble. And it was his gamble that set the Raiders back, not Russell.
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Branch is a Super Bowl Champion….2 time one at that. He should be in the HOF as should a number of Raiders…Davis missed big time, but Branch isnt an idiot. Someone posting that never played or went through the fire…
April 8th, 2011 at 8:38 am
lol, you guys trying to guess who or what position we will take at #48…too funny. Just when you think you have it figured out Al will draft some kid from Chin@ he saw on youtube running from tanks because he thought the kid look agile and fast.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Dakota
the draft is comin up man what else are we supposed to talk about?
April 8th, 2011 at 8:54 am
170.irjonny Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Dakota
the draft is comin up man what else are we supposed to talk about?
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The NBA.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Dakota Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 8:38 am
lol, you guys trying to guess who or what position we will take at #48…too funny. Just when you think you have it figured out Al will draft some kid from Chin@ he saw on youtube running from tanks because he thought the kid look agile and fast.
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Yeah, and he will pay him $50 million only for us to find out that he is addicted to opium and cheeseburgers.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Dakota
good point…go Lakeshow!
April 8th, 2011 at 8:59 am
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f27031/article/gaining-steam-colts-raiders-to-host-nevadas-kaepernick?module=HP_headlines
This is colin kaepernick. BTW his throwing motion is fine. goes from his chest to his shoulder the way it should be, his issue is with his lower body but hue will fix that
April 8th, 2011 at 9:19 am
RaiderSam Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 6:39 am
lets get this straight; 2nd rounder…either he sacks, intercepts, catches or returns kicks.
reasoning; see Robert Gallery and Jake Grove. reasoning 2; see Kwame Harris, FA
how many former first rounders on either Packers or Steelers front line? (remember Pouncey was hurt) RG Josh Sitton came out of nowhere, so did Patriots OT Sebastian Vollmer.
some teams can develop o-linemen, this team isnt one of them….so look for o-line at rounds 4-6
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Vollmer didn’t come out of nowhere. He got drafted in the 2nd round the year we drafted DHB. We too Mike Mitchell in the 2nd ahead of Vollmer I think. Big mistake. We liked him too because Al asked for him when we traded Burgess to them. He’d probably be our starting LT right now if we had gotten him.
April 8th, 2011 at 9:29 am
The end of the blog is near? Good god man, what will you do with your life?
April 8th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Hard to get excited about the prospects of someone we might draft that was past over more than a few dozen times, by other teams.
Add to that a wacky blog, and we have blase’ at it’s best.
April 8th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 9:29 am
The end of the blog is near? Good god man, what will you do with your life?
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Can’t lose what you don’t have.
RMR/Gist admits he wakes up, and falls asleep to this blog. I mean, actually admits it.
That’s not a life.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Problem is JC will not sign a one year deal after this season. If he is better than last year he will want a long term deal, and some big bucks. He ain’t worth it. So the Sophmore QB would have to start year two.
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Dirty Raccoon,
2 good QB’s in Oakland would be nothing short of interesting. We haven’t had anything above average from the QB position since Gannon got his neck bent by Derrick Brooks, including last season
If JCamp becomes a star? Great!
If not, well then we’ll all say “maybe we shoulda drafted a QB?”
I’m not opposed to drafting a QB, but I’m not ready to write off Jason Campbell, either.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:23 am
don’t just freak out and draft a Darius Heyward-Bey at #7 because you need a WR, when he has no business being drafted #7.
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JFB,
this has nothing to do with drafting players versus positions imo
We needed a WR in 2009 like we needed a QB in 2007!
Problem is we chose the wrong guy(s)
nobody would be complaining if Al Davis had chosen Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, Nicks or Britt instead of DHB
Nobody would be complaining if Al Davis selected Joe Thomas and taken a late round QB like Trent Edwards, Troy Smith or Tyler Thigpen in the later rounds, either
Blame the GM or the scouting dept
April 8th, 2011 at 10:45 am
180.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 10:23 am
don’t just freak out and draft a Darius Heyward-Bey at #7 because you need a WR, when he has no business being drafted #7.
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JFB,
this has nothing to do with drafting players versus positions imo
We needed a WR in 2009 like we needed a QB in 2007!
Problem is we chose the wrong guy(s)
nobody would be complaining if Al Davis had chosen Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, Nicks or Britt instead of DHB
Nobody would be complaining if Al Davis selected Joe Thomas and taken a late round QB like Trent Edwards, Troy Smith or Tyler Thigpen in the later rounds, either
Blame the GM or the scouting dept
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Or maybe we drafted the right guy in 2007, but then drafted the one receiver in 2009 that couldn’t catch a cold and got our 2007 draft pick benched and eventually cut.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Former Titans lineman dies of congestive heart failure at age 31
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 8, 2011, 12:16 PM EDT
Mario Branch, an offensive tackle who spent two training camps with the Titans, has died of congestive heart failure at the age of 31.
Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that the 6-foot-7, 345-pound Branch passed away at Southern Hills Medical Center in Nashville.
Branch played his college ball at Mississippi Valley State and was in camp with the Titans in 2003 and 2004. He played for two Arena league teams but never played in an NFL regular-season game.
Branch is survived by two young children, four sisters and three brothers.
April 8th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Blame the GM or the scouting dept
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I say blame Canada
April 8th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RR, I see you’re not having any trouble with the Posting Too Quickly thingy, funny that.
April 8th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
sad story about Mario Branch, Kell …
Langston Walker is 6′8″ 365 lbs. He better stay in shape. Take good care of his body
April 8th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
No RR if he compares him to Bo Jackson call it quits. He will blow both hips out on a freak play.
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187.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
#48 will be a QB, unless Colin, Mallet, Locker and Ponder are all of the board.
Book it.
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JFB,
I wouldn’t be upset if we drafted 1 of those 4 QB’s at #48, as long as it’s at #48 and we don’t have to trade up for one of them!
Picks in Rounds 3-7 could be VERY important. Is anybody sold on Loper & Campbell each starting 16 games at guard ??? I’m not. Just because Al Davis says that a guy he drafted can play, doesn’t mean anything
See Russell, Henderson & Heyward-Bey!
Our QB, LT & WR of the future. All clear liabilities to that position group and 2/3 is already out the door
In fact, if Al Davis ever compares Darren McFadden to Barry Sanders, you might as well start selling your DMAC jerseys on Ebay or Craigslist. It’s sort of like the Madden cover curse
April 8th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Why is my post 186 I just posted it?
April 8th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Debo,
JaMarcus is a sad story, too. all the potential and raw God-given talent in the world
He just didn’t have the desire to be a professional athlete. He had the desire to buy some jewelry and drink cough syrup with his cronies
Russell didn’t get benched for sleeping during meetings or poor conditioning. He didn’t get waived because of off-field issues or his demeanor.
He got the boot because his coaches and teammates didn’t respect or beleive in him. He wasn’t accurate. He wasn’t a leader. He was a turnover machine and he got outplayed by a 3rd string journeyman QB who had been with 3 different teams in his first 3 NFL seasons
THE END
April 8th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
#48 will be a QB, unless Colin, Mallet, Locker and Ponder are all of the board.
Book it.
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JFB,
I wouldn’t be upset if we drafted 1 of those 4 QB’s at #48, as long as it’s at #48 and we don’t have to trade up for one of them!
Picks in Rounds 3-7 could be VERY important. Is anybody sold on Loper & Campbell each starting 16 games at guard ??? I’m not. Just because Al Davis says that a guy he drafted can play, doesn’t mean anything
See Russell, Henderson & Heyward-Bey!
Our QB, LT & WR of the future. All clear liabilities to that position group and 2/3 is already out the door
In fact, if Al Davis ever compares Darren McFadden to Barry Sanders, you might as well start selling your DMAC jerseys on Ebay or Craigslist. It’s sort of like the Madden cover curse
April 8th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Jason Campbell threw for 3618 yards and 20 TD’s in 2009.
Al Davis traded for him and compared him to Jim Plunkett …
JCamp threw for 2387 yards and 13 TD’s for the Raiders in 2010.
You see what I’m saying ???
Whoever we draft on April 28th or 29th, I hope Al Davis issues a statement that says “these kids stink and they’d be lucky to make the 53 man roster. Hue Jackson put his neck on the line with these selections”
sure fire Pro Bowlers!
April 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Mike Vick is reaching out to Plaxico Burress.
the Eagles could use a 3rd WR behind Jackson & Maclin
I don’t think Jason Avant is very good, but he could still probably be the #1 WR for Oakland
he had 10 more catches (51 total) than Louis Murphy last season!
April 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Ricky Stanzi
Pat Devlin
Greg McElroy
Tyrod Taylor
Taylor Potts
Adam Weber
Scott Tolzien
T.J. Yates QB
Nathan Enderle
Josh Portis
At least 1 of these QB’s will go on to have a more successful NFL career than Cam Newton. Print That
April 8th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Jake Locker
Christian Ponder
Ryan Mallett
Colin Kaepernick
Andy Dalton
At least 1 of these QB’s will go on to have a more successful NFL career than Blaine Gabbert. Print That
April 8th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
He got the boot because his coaches and teammates didn’t respect or beleive in him. He wasn’t accurate. He wasn’t a leader. He was a turnover machine and he got outplayed by a 3rd string journeyman QB who had been with 3 different teams in his first 3 NFL seasons
THE END
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His coaches didn’t believe in him?? Which set, the 1st or second? You might be right about the second group. But as a fan, do you really trust the judgement of Cable/Whackit/Tollner? The ones that thought Bruise would take us to the SB? Al sure as hell didn’t believe in that staff. That’s why Hue is here. The worst two things to happen to JR in Oakland were Tom Cable an DHB. And by the way, how do you know his teammates didn’t believe in him? Never heard one guy on the team say a bad thing about him.
April 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RR, I see you’re not having any trouble with the Posting Too Quickly thingy, funny that.
April 8th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Man this blog is going to crap quick! We need jerry back to beat the IT idiots over the helmet.
April 8th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Ryan Mallet has a big arm but he is not moble flat footed and I don’t see that quick release from this guy.
April 8th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I think FOrd is going to get the starting position at WR next year.
April 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
if he compares him to Bo Jackson call it quits. He will blow both hips out on a freak play.
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CJ Legend,
nice observation bro. start Mike Bush against the Bungles!
April 8th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
His coaches didn’t believe in him?? Which set, the 1st or second?
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Debo,
you think Kiffin, Knapp & Defilipo fell in love with JaMarcus? LOL!
Cable, Tollner & Hackett didn’t.
Hue Jackson obviously didn’t either, because he joined us as OC in January and JaFranchise was dumped in May
Hue Jax had total control of the offense and 4+ months to evaluate that lazy slouch.
April 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Funniest post of the year.
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priesttj Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
I’ve been selling the Raiders on Kaepernick since mid season
April 8th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RR, I see you’re not having any trouble with the Posting Too Quickly thingy, funny that.
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Interesting.
April 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Key thing to remember about Russell is that the only person in Alameda who ever believed in him in the first place was Al Davis.
April 8th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Except me, I’m in Alameda, I believed in him, lol.
April 8th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Yeah, Al Davis gives gigs to just about anyone seemingly yet Priest somehow isn’t employed by the organization. But Raider executives do confide in him on prospective players!
April 8th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
lol. My invocation of the city of Alameda in this context would refer to the Raiders’ team headquarters, Kell. But I’m sure you knew that. Unless, of course, you haven’t been telling us everything… I always get offended when politicians diss “Sacramento”, knowing they mean the legislature. But you never know…
April 8th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/The-Big-Picture-Start-paying-more-attention-to-;_ylt=AowgiFgTS4aWqsDj1NrbVDI5nYcB?urn=ncaaf-wp659
Good read.
April 8th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
BTW, this blog glitch is intentional, I’m guessing. I think IBA might be shifting gears. This is a hideous glitch that’s lasted way too long for it to be a routine malfunction awaiting maintenance. It’s ruining this blog, and there’s little to no urgency to fix it. I’m thinking some Raider writers at IBA are on the chopping block, and this blog may not exist soon.
April 8th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Where are the cries to put astericks on any of Manny Ramirez’s records (most postseason Home Runs) and the Red Sox championships??
I hope Barry Bonds gets acquitted on Monday and than subsequently spits on the prosecution on the way out the door.
April 8th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Except me, I’m in Alameda, I believed in him, lol.
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If his name was Michael Collins instead of Jamarcus Russell, you would have never believed in him for a second.
April 8th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Free Greg Anderson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
April 8th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Secret Superstar: Matt Shaughnessy, Oakland Raiders
In desperate need of a turnaround, the 2010 Oakland Raiders found the strength to halt their fall and begin the climb back to respectability.
The impetus behind this shift was improved play from select position groups, most notably, the defensive backs, running backs, and defensive line, with the latter providing the backbone for all else to hang on.
The D-line itself was an interesting story that featured all of the parts that a hip team-of-heroes flick might … the super-talented leader that has seen it all (Richard Seymour,) the underachiever that finally got his mind right (Tommy Kelly,) the brash and unpredictable kid (Lamarr Houston,) and the unassuming, overlooked stud (Matt Shaughnessy.)
It’s time now to shine light on that least-known piece of a line that has quickly become one of the NFL’s best. Matt Shaughnessy is the Secret Superstar for the Oakland Raiders.
Easing In
The book on Shaughnessy coming out of Wisconsin was that he was capable as both a pass rusher and as a run stopper, just not outstanding in either facet. Also, with injury questions and a build that some considered too light for a 4-3 defensive end, there were fit concerns that pushed his expected draft slot into the 4th round. Oakland, however, selected him with the 7th pick in 2009’s 3rd round and signed him to a four year deal.
Upon arrival, Shaughnessy was slotted into the left side, playing on the second team behind veteran Greg Ellis. Seeing time in just 37% of the team’s defensive snaps that season, he had to impress in sporadic moments of opportunity.
When given the chance, Shaughnessy showed himself to be a surprisingly stout run defender on the edge, and, though he had added a bit of bulk, his strength was most apparent. Able to control and come off of blockers and use his reach to latch onto runners, he appeared instantly comfortable against NFL competition.
With a pair of particularly strong games against division rivals Denver and San Diego (combined nine tackles, seven stops and two sacks in those contests,) whispers suggested a larger role was on the horizon.
Starter Material
The Raider defensive line experienced an overhaul prior to the 2010 season. Gone were starters Ellis and Gerard Warren as well as rotational end Jay Richardson. Seymour bumped inside to take over the right defensive tackle spot and rookie Lamarr Houston was plugged in at left end. Shaughnessy moved to the right side to share time with flip-flopping DE/OLB Trevor Scott and both gave way to Kamerion Wimbley on third downs.
Now in his second season, Shaughnessy was making a living as an early down specialist, again playing especially well against the ground game. He was simply doing everything right when faced with runs to his side: sliding off of blocks, compressing lanes, and stringing plays to the sideline. As a pass rusher, though, he was not generating much of an effect. While he did have five sacks in the first nine weeks, he only created four other pressures in 105 pass rush chances.
When Scott went down with an injury in Week 11, the door was opened for Shaughnessy to take on a legitimate starting role. His per-game snap percentage jumped from 49% as a split-timer to over 83% during the next six games. That Week 11 game against Pittsburgh, in fact, was where he earned his best grade for the season (+6.3 overall and a huge +5.7 in Run D), stepping up when most needed.
His first assignment as the full time right end came, unfortunately for him, against Miami’s Jake Long. 80 painful snaps later, Shaughnessy was staring at his worst day as a pro. He got nothing done that afternoon, unable to shake the grasp of the game’s best left tackle.
Getting past that game, the remainder of his season was on track. His run defense was remarkable: Shaughnessy finished among the 4-3 DE leaders in overall run defense grade (No. 5) and in stops (his 36 were seventh-best.) Increased action in passing situations allowed for his improving skills there to be seen as well. While starting those final games, he added 20 quarterback disruptions to his first half totals and his pass rushing productivity score jumped from 7.62 in the early games to 9.60 down the stretch.
Gotta Wear Shades
Having demonstrated his ability as a run defender and flashing his pass-rushing potential in these two seasons, Shaughnessy was named to our “All-Sophomore Team” and the smart money says there are even brighter days ahead. He’ll likely never develop into a super-hyped threat that strikes fear in left tackles across the league, but he very well could end up as one of the most well-rounded 4-3 ends in the NFL.
With bigger names and bigger paychecks nearby, it’s easy to look past Shaughnessy when checking in with the Raider D-Line, but the time is coming for him and Houston, the youngsters on this line, to take over.
In the meantime, Seymour and Kelly will get the headlines, leaving Shaughnessy’s impact a relative secret.
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nothing else is going on, so I might as well post this story… enjoy NATION…
April 8th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
# StayinBlack Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Some info on a WR Raiders worked out
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110405/PKR01/304060033/1058/UW-Stevens-Point-WR-seeks-catch-scouts-attention
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Oh no…not this stuff again. Private workouts with obscure players from very small schools.
Hope they don’t reach for this kid like they did with Mitchell in Round 2 a couple of years ago. This guy should be a 6th round pick if anything.
April 8th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
If his name was Michael Collins instead of Jamarcus Russell, you would have never believed in him for a second.
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That’s a damned lie, and I always knew you to be disingenuous.
April 8th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Grads is history. Get over it, he simply won’t be back for a ton of good reasons. We’ll start w/ JCampbell. Who’s next? Who knows? It won’t be a rookie! AD is very long of tooth and he above all know it better than most. This fact alone makes his decision making short term. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him bring in BOTH Carson Palmer & Chad Whatever-the hell-his-last-name-is now. AD is desperate for respectability. 8-8 is not respectability in AD’s book. That’s one main reason Tom Cable is no longer around. At a minimum, AD wants the AFC-West title this upcoming year and an appearance in the AFC Championship game. I’m convinced he expects us to be in the SB by 2013 at the latest. And, if we get there he will expect us to take it all. There is no reason to believe that we can’t do just that. Add a few key FA’s, beef up the O-line and play our ass off and we should be able to meet the aforementioned goals.
All I personally have to say is “It’s about damn time”! Let’s get on with the a$$ kickings and take no prisoners. It’s time to get our respectability back – BIG TIME!
April 8th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
If the Raids are interested in drafting Kaepernick, then there’s reason to believe they might be interested in Vince Young.
Their games are similar.
Going into 2011 with JaJason written in stone as the starting QB is a disaster waiting to happen.
Once JaJason gets benched or injured, who do the Raids go to ?
Boller ? Grads ? Frye ?
Grads isn’t signed and Frye’s wrist might be toast.
Can’t see the Raids going with only 2 QBs on the roster.
There will be some sort of movement on this front.
Extremely doubtful that even if the Raids draft Kaepernick he’d be of much use in his rookie season.
Which means that unless the Raids are satisfied with only Boller stepping in to relieve the benched or injured JaJason (and he will get benched or injured), they’re going to sign a vet QB.
I’m hoping Grads is back, but if not they’ve got to sign another QB.
Course, if they sign VY, he’d start because poor wittle JaJason can’t pway well with someone looking over his shoulder !
JaJason sucks.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Screw that lying piece of crap scum bag Bonds.
If he was a man…he would have admitted he did steroids years ago. He is guilty and he lied to the feds BIG time! It’s obvious and they don’t need Bonds lapdog Anderson to prove that he lied.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
the old man Al reached and took DHB in the top 10 and Mitchell in the 2nd round.
They both did pre draft private work outs for the Raiders. Ugh
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DKnight007,
Be careful not to write off players drafted by Oakland after just 2 years.
Gallery, Huff & Asomugha didn’t blossom until Year #3 plus!
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Oh yeah…and guess what, they are all going to leave most likely. Way to go old man Al….these players develop into serviceable players and now he doesn’t value them?
Lousy.
April 8th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
ix the damn servers. I post and it shows up 4 messages before the post I actually followed. Fix the clocks! there’s one or two servers with clock problems. Let’s see where this post ends up.
April 8th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Gallery doesn’t have too many good years left, and his agent knows it. The old man likes Mitchell and Tyrone Branch (they’re younger, show a lot of potential, and are cheaper). He inferred publicly that he could improve the team by upgrading two or three other positions for the same money as it would take to resign Aso.
Whether or not we agree with the logic we should least be grateful that there’s a plan.
April 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
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Oh yeah…and guess what, they are all going to leave most likely. Way to go old man Al….these players develop into serviceable players and now he doesn’t value them?
Lousy.
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Coach knows what he’s doing. He’s looking for more than “serviceable”.
As soon as Coach is done settling this lockout garbage, be looking for some sweet free agent acquisitions that will get every Raider fan excited.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Dump Aso and build up the offensive line.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
# armond Says:
April 7th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
colin is a good choice and im glad we are looking at him. u can draft whoever u want whenever. people think we should take an olineman just cuz we need one. i wouldnt pass up marvin austin for any of these olineman but alot in here would. the draft is about getting players not positions. stock piling your team with talent also gives u flexibility in trades. u also want to get as many guys with star potential as possible. who cares where and when u get a player just get em!!
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Get stud/potential star players at positions of need if key.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
# Kirk Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Dump Aso and build up the offensive line.
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Dumping your best defender and getting nothing in return is lousy.
April 8th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Get the QB!! Tired of the garbage we have here.
April 8th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
The best player for our team in the second round is Jamse Brewer. We may need to trade up to get him, but he IS the best RT in the draft, and we NEED that desperatly!
QB is the biggest need for our team overall though, so…
April 9th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Russell apologists like the coulda, woulda, shoulda, full of excusa approach.
Russell didn’t cut it. Period………………..
Coach Davis was p.o’d and gave him his walkin papers. Period……………………………………..
Some of Coaches soothesayers need their walkin papers too. People like to try and squeeze Coach out of some of his fortune and he don’t like it. The nfl is tryin to squeeze Coach, but he’ll be squeezin the Lombardi next Supper Bowl.
Raiders gonna build the O & D line with the draft and trades.
12:00
April 9th, 2011 at 12:17 am
208.Gust372 Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
BTW, this blog glitch is intentional, I’m guessing. I think IBA might be shifting gears. This is a hideous glitch that’s lasted way too long for it to be a routine malfunction awaiting maintenance. It’s ruining this blog, and there’s little to no urgency to fix it. I’m thinking some Raider writers at IBA are on the chopping block, and this blog may not exist soon.
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While you could or could not be right, my take is that this blog is on ‘watch’ by the nfl to gather any information they can to use against Coach Davis in some underhanded way. The folks doin the ‘watching’ are slow and cannot keep up with the pace of this blog. In their ‘bugging’ attempts, they sure have messed it up. And no doubt these ‘flunkies’ hired by the conspirators aren’t very good. They’d be working somewhere else if they were. And Jerry and the furloughs? You buyin that? He’s probably holed up in some cubicle, tied to a chair with a lamp in his face being grilled by nfl higher ups on just what exactly he knows about Coach. But Jerry is a trooper, and my money says he ain’t talkin.
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April 9th, 2011 at 12:38 am
WTF? It’s 12:36am, not 11:36pm. Fix the server time!
April 9th, 2011 at 12:39 am
That’s better….now back to what I was saying
GET THE QB!!! We have stink crap behind the Center right now!!!
April 9th, 2011 at 12:41 am
You people are still talking about Russell? You give that crap for brains idiot too much of your time.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:52 am
Listen, the last time we sniffed the playoffs we had PROBOWL and/or first round caliber NOT a drafted QB.
Draft Oline than a QB can actually function
April 9th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says ( To Kell):
April 8th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
If his name was Michael Collins instead of Jamarcus Russell, you would have never believed in him for a second.
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Don’t play this game. Because then Kell can just come right back and say that if Russell’s name were Michael Collins, with the exact same work ethic, you would have supported him all along.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:56 am
JB Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
At a minimum, AD wants the AFC-West title this upcoming year and an appearance in the AFC Championship game. I’m convinced he expects us to be in the SB by 2013 at the latest. And, if we get there he will expect us to take it all. There is no reason to believe that we can’t do just that.
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Oh, there’s actually about 5,000 reasons we can’t do just that. So many in fact I don’t even know where to start.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:25 am
[Primed for Pro Bowl: It's Jason Campbell's Time
by Elias Trejo.........The Oakland Raiders are entering the 2011 with playoffs on their mind. The offense will be Jason Campbell's offense to run, and don't be surprised if he is headed to Hawaii after]
http://bleacherreport.com/oakland-raiders
April 9th, 2011 at 1:27 am
2011 NFL Draft: Why the Oakland Raiders Should Not Draft a Quarterback
by A.J. Chinn
[Prior to the 2010 season, Al Davis made comparisons of newly acquired Jason Campbell to two-time Super Bowl champion Jim Plunkett. "I see this young Jason Campbell as a football player like I saw Jim....]
http://bleacherreport.com/oakland-raiders
April 9th, 2011 at 7:39 am
# The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
The best player for our team in the second round is Jamse Brewer. We may need to trade up to get him, but he IS the best RT in the draft, and we NEED that desperatly!
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Brewer has had some durability problems in the past, but I wouldn’t be complaining if he was the pick.
As far as OG/RT type players go, Ijalana, Cannon, Boling, and Franklin should all be in play for that second round pick.
The more I read about Clint Boling, the more I think he should be the front runner. He’s played both tackle spots as well as offensive guard, and he’s a solid pass protector with a mean streak in the running game.
April 9th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Just watched the Cam Newton feature with him in the Gruden film camp or whatever they call it on ESPN.
Interesting that in the prequel they were showing all the draft guys talk up his potential and risks and they brought in two NFL coaches to say a small piece, with one coach talking him up and they other taking a subtle shot at him.
Harbaugh was the coach who talked up his potential, and the coach who said “he has a lot to work to do to be good IN THIS LEAGUE”……………..
Hue Jackson
April 9th, 2011 at 9:10 am
If we draft a guy to be a RT, whoever it is, he better have actually PLAYED RT in college.
The whole notion of drafting a guy and moving him to a new position on the O-line, creates the rookie year situation like Bruce Campbell.
Incapable of handling the transition in year 1, and a complete non-factor in said rookie year.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:26 am
# Kirk Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Dump Aso and build up the offensive line.
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we will have plenty of money this year even if there is a cap to sign aso and help the DT position if davis sees fit. most of the free agents left are backups…including michael bush and all easily replaceable. Aso should be our priority and i think it is other wise we would be looking to keep huff instead but he is good as gone.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:40 am
242.HairyBush Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 10:04 am
# Kirk Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Dump Aso and build up the offensive line.
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Keep Aso & draft lineman!
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Exactly. Keep Nnamdi and draft O-Line, DT, OLB, and a TE.
April 9th, 2011 at 9:50 am
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
The best player for our team in the second round is Jamse Brewer. We may need to trade up to get him, but he IS the best RT in the draft, and we NEED that desperatly!
QB is the biggest need for our team overall though, so…
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April 9th, 2011 at 10:03 am
25 years under 4 coaches, Davis, Rauch, Madden and Flores: 242-109, 4 Super Bowls, 3 wins. The next 24 years under: Shanahan, Shell, White, Bugel, Gruden, Callahan, Turner, Shell, Kiffin and Cable: 167-201, 1 Super Bowl apearance, a loss. Hopefully Hue Jackson is the right man for the job.
April 9th, 2011 at 10:04 am
# Kirk Says:
April 8th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Dump Aso and build up the offensive line.
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April 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/26064/how-tim-tebow-stacks-up-against-2011-qb-class
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Wow! I know TT is a project and everything. But now I’m supposed to believe that scrubs like Ponder, Stansi and Dalton are better prospects? That’s going a little too far for me.
April 9th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Sporting News did a mock draft of the first three rounds and has us taking Ben Ijalana (OT) from Villanova in the second and Curtis Brown in the 3rd.
It has Wiz 2.0 going #49 (right after us), Casey Matthews #88 and Marcus Cannon is not in their first 3 rounds.
Kapernick #45 to 49ers.
Just a little food for thought
April 9th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Personally, I am more scared of Tim Tebow moving forward than I am Matt Cassel or even Philip Rivers.
Cassel cowers to pressure and the physicalness of the game. There is a lot of quit in that guy.
Rivers is getting older and older each year, and with his injury history and lack of mobility, he will probably not age very gracefully.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Cassel sucks. We’ll have to wait and see with Tebow. Right now, he doesn’t scare me at all. I’d like to see what he is in two years. Unfotunately for him, Elway probably won’t wait that long.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:14 am
There is no way Kap should be a 1st round pick and just like there is no way Gabbert and Newton should be top 10 picks!
Teams will of course wind up reaching for a QB like Gabbert or Newton and it will just hurt their squads.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:22 am
HairyBush Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 10:03 am
25 years under 4 coaches, Davis, Rauch, Madden and Flores: 242-109, 4 Super Bowls, 3 wins. The next 24 years under: Shanahan, Shell, White, Bugel, Gruden, Callahan, Turner, Shell, Kiffin and Cable: 167-201, 1 Super Bowl apearance, a loss. Hopefully Hue Jackson is the right man for the job.
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Ron Wolf was here most of the winning years, and not here most of the losing years. Tie that in with him going to Green Bay and building a Super Bowl winner in the ’90s, when Al Davis couldn’t get the Raiders off the ground, it’s pretty obvious who really built the great Raider teams of old. It used to just be an interesting theory but with each passing year it’s becoming more and more blatantly obvious.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Tebow had the Broncos much more competitive against us than Orton had them.
He will never be Dan Marino or anything, but Tebow kind of reminds me of the Hoss a little.
Lots of fire and guts, and gets the most out of his talents.
That throwing motion is awful at times though, especially when throwing to the sidelines. NFL defenses are going to make him beat them outside the hashes, which is where he really, really struggles.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Kirk Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Some great posts here.
I always tell people that Raider fans are the smartest people on the web.
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Do you get mad when they laugh?
April 9th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Some great posts here.
I always tell people that Raider fans are the smartest people on the web.
I guess it’s ok to draft a big strong quarterback, but I would prefer a big strong offensive line.
April 9th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tebow puts my theory that talent trumps “intangibles” to the test. Watching him play against us confirmed that he’s got serious issues throwing the ball. If he can overcome that to be a good starter, I’ll have to re-evaluate my position.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Gust372 Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Kirk Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Some great posts here.
I always tell people that Raider fans are the smartest people on the web.
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That is the funniest thing I have ever read on the internet. Are you a professional comedian?
April 9th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The point is, you have to have both.
A QB with more talent than intangibles, may become a better QB than one with all the intangibles and not much talent, but it’s like splitting hairs between Jamarcus Russell or Bruce Gradkowski. Either case, the guy stinks and won’t ever win anything.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
lets get a qb in the draft but lets get our oline in free agency unless we trade up for pouncey
April 9th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Gust372 Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
I don’t even think he’s a backup. He’s not an NFL QB, period. But he’s an NFL poster boy. And the officials are going to do everything they can to take care of him. Opposing pass rushers will be going 3/4 speed on him.
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I usually can’t stand the media darling, poster boy types. Matt Ryan comes to mind. But I can live with Tebow. I don’t think the guy is a phony. Home-schooled dude who spent all that time preaching the gospel in the Phillipines growing up, I’m convinced that he’s living right.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The point is, you have to have both.
A QB with more talent than intangibles, may become a better QB than one with all the intangibles and not much talent, but it’s like splitting hairs between Jamarcus Russell or Bruce Gradkowski. Either case, the guy stinks and won’t ever win anything.
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My problem with that is that “intangibles” is a very subjective term. I believe JR had very good intangibles. The guy is impervious to pressure. But everyone who hates the guy, and that’s just about everybody, calls that “playing without passion”. JR should be good in this league. Bruise is supposed to suck.
April 9th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
we can go o-line in the 4th & 3rd again that worked out ok so far
April 9th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Don’t forget the referee factor regarding Tebow. NFL officials have been known to make mediocre QBs look good.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Tim Tebow is a career back up. He wouldn’t even make the Raiders’ roster.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
I don’t even think he’s a backup. He’s not an NFL QB, period. But he’s an NFL poster boy. And the officials are going to do everything they can to take care of him. Opposing pass rushers will be going 3/4 speed on him.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
JaDavis vs. Gradkowski? Who cares! Both guys are not starting QBs. In JaDavis’ case, he’s not an NFL QB either.
You need talent and the intangilbes. Period. If you have a QB that doesn’t have those than you probably don’t have a QB.
So what about Jason Campell? I think he has the talent and has “some” of the intangibles notably, a good attitude and willingness to put in the work. What he is lacking to date is consistency on the field. Fortunately, consistency can be taught and certainly JC’s quality of teammates has something to do with it.
Give Campbell a chance. THe Raiders have nothing to lose here. JaDavis has proven to show he doesn’t care about football and Gradkowski just isn’t good enough from a talent and production standpoint.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Gradkowski is better than Russell. Come on. That’s not even debatable. I think Gradkowski is better than Campbell, too. We’re going to miss Gradkowski right off the bat. As soon as Campbell starts stinking up the joint, we won’t have that spark plug to bail him out like we had in ‘10. Like I said, we’re already a worse team than in ‘10. Leave it to the Raiders to dismantle a team right when it becomes competitive.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
My problem with that is that “intangibles” is a very subjective term. I believe JR had very good intangibles. The guy is impervious to pressure.
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There is a major difference between being impervious and not giving a crap.
For being “impervious to pressure” he sure ran to drug use awful quick when the pressure mounted.
April 9th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Russell was already using drugs long before the so-called pressure ever started. You guys continue to make up your own version of why he didn’t get it done here. There were many reasons some of the most serious never get mentioned in here. He wasn’t lazy and he did care a lot. He was just young on his own and had a very significant person in his life die. Who knows what he would’ve done different had his uncle lived. But to say it didn’t matter is very naive.
April 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
The Raiders did what they could to help him, I know Debo doesn’t agree but the money they spent bring family members and baby sitters for him was more than anyone should need. He was just very immature and still is. He needed someone he respected to put a foot in his rear. Unfortunately (for Russell and the Raiders) that person died.
April 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Ha ha ha ha!!! Somebody said Russell was impervious to pressure? I missed that. Priceless!!! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 9th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Sporting News did a mock draft of the first three rounds and has us taking Ben Ijalana (OT) from Villanova in the second and Curtis Brown in the 3rd.
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Very interesting indeed. I think the Raiders would be lucky if either of them fell that far.
Also interesting how varied the reports on Cannon’s draft stock have been. If he’s available in the 3rd round it would be a pretty solid pick.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
JaMarcus Russell left here the exact same man he was when the Raiders drafted him.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
priesttj Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
The Raiders did what they could to help him,
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Nonsense. The whole world knew he had problems prior to the ‘09 season. The Raiders were aware of them. He should have been declared inactive until rehabilitated. Instead, the Raiders went into denial mode. They burned the stick at both ends, threw him to the wolves, and basically brought in a bunch of people to babysit him. If they really wanted to help him, they would have de-activated him and forced him to get help. The Raiders actually did very little to help Russell.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
The Raiders would have rather had a drug addicted Russell take the field, and hope for some kind of miracle, than own up to the fact that their ‘07 first round pick had a drug problem, and gotten him into rehab, where he belonged. AGAIN…Al Davis “the gambling man” gambled, and lost.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
And you know what they call a gambler that habitually loses: A degenerate. Al’s in a lot of debt, too. He’s had shares of his “beloved raidahs” up for sale for years now, with no takers. You tell me.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
He needed someone he respected to put a foot in his rear. Unfortunately (for Russell and the Raiders) that person died.
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The person who gave him the greatest opportunity in his life (Al Davis) didn’t meet the qualifications apparently.
I’m sure we all have lost someone close to us in our life. In fact every human being goes through this, often 2-3 times in their lifetime.
The only people who can’t handle it are mental midgets.
April 9th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
You guys continue to make up your own version of why he didn’t get it done here.
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LMAO!!
This sentence comes right before…….you make up your own version of why didn’t it get it done.
He didn’t get it done because he wasn’t good enough, point blank.
You can dissect it a million different ways, and try to make excuses for him in different ways.
The fact of the matter is, he pissed off his employer with his attitude and performance and got fired.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Nothing gets this place fired up more than some good old Jamarcus talk, lol.
I wonder how long until we completely forget about that guy? I still think we got a good 4-5 years, at least.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
jamarcus doensn’t deserve to have his name mentioned in a raider’s blog anymore. dam i mentioned his name!!
draft in what 2 1/2 weeks. stoked. i guess the nfl and nflpa* are going back to mediation secretly with a judge overlookin. hopefully it works out.
April 9th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
If JaMarcus Russell was worth a damn, someone else would have picked him up
April 9th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
271.Gust372 Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
JaMarcus Russell left here the exact same man he was when the Raiders drafted him.
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No he didn’t. He left a broken man, the world no longer his oyster. He left after 3 years experience of nfl football that rung his bell. He left a millionaire who knows how many times over, and, 3 years experience of next level party scene.
April 9th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
277.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Nothing gets this place fired up more than some good old Jamarcus talk, lol.
I wonder how long until we completely forget about that guy? I still think we got a good 4-5 years, at least.
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April 9th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
we could just draft 6 QBs this draft. one of them have to pan out right?
April 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Genius.
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April 9th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
If JaMarcus Russell was worth a damn, someone else would have picked him up
April 9th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
With all your “alleged” inside knowledge you had JaMeatloaf penciled in as the starter while the org was already finished with him.
Derelict.
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April 9th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
The Raiders did what they could to help him, I know Debo doesn’t agree but the money they spent bring family members and baby sitters for him was more than anyone should need. He was just very immature and still is. He needed someone he respected to put a foot in his rear. Unfortunately (for Russell and the Raiders) that person died.
April 9th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
you know the Raiders dont have a 1st rd pick, when there Jamarcus talk, 3 weeks prior to the draft…
April 9th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
285.DaTruth91 Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
you know the Raiders dont have a 1st rd pick, when there Jamarcus talk, 3 weeks prior to the draft…
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Shows you just how ‘unique’ that situation was. First Leaf, then Russell. Two in lifetime. Doubt we’ll ever see anything like that again. The fall-out will be around here for years, maybe decades.
April 9th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Kappy is the real deal. I live in Reno and can tell ya that the kid is a winner. Every game he was good for two plus TDs a game by himself.
April 9th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
April 9th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
No he didn’t. He left a broken man, the world no longer his oyster. He left after 3 years experience of nfl football that rung his bell. He left a millionaire who knows how many times over, and, 3 years experience of next level party scene.
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You’re right. Russell did leave here with more money. I guess that’s one difference.
April 10th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Ohio State offensive guard Bryant Browning has visits with the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers and a private workout with the Jacksonville Jaguars, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
Browning is a three-year starter and team captain for the Buckeyes.
The 6-foot-3, 316-pounder wasn’t invited to the NFL scouting combine.
He was an honorable-mention All-Big Ten Conference selection who has played bot hoffensive tackle and guard, lining up at right guard for the past two seasons.
As a senior, he was one of 11 honorees for the Big Ten Sportsmanship Award.
Browning ranked first academically in his high school graduating class, and played in the Big 33 All-Star game.
April 10th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bored, so here goes a mini-mock:
Panthers (1) – Marcellus Dareus
Broncos (2) – Patrick Peterson
Bills (3) – Von Miller
Bengals (4) – Cam Newton
Cardinals(5) – Blaine Gabbert
Browns (6) – AJ Green
49ers (7) – Nick Fairley
Titans (8) – D’Quan Bowers
Cowboys (9) – Prince Akumakara
Redskins (10)- Ryan Mallet
Texans (11)- Ryan Kerrigan
Vikings (12)- Robert Quinn
Lions (13)- Anthony Costanzo
Rams (14)- Julio Jones
Dolphins (15)- Jake Locker
April 10th, 2011 at 8:58 am
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/4/10/2096983/jah-reid-nfl-draft-scouting-report
April 10th, 2011 at 8:59 am
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/4/8/2096982/clint-boling-nfl-draft-scouting-report
April 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am
It sad when people who have no clue what they’re talking about act as if they do. If the Raiders thought sitting Russell earlier would help him they would’ve. They didn’t think so, so they did what they thought was best for him during the offseasons in his 3rd season it was obvious they couldn’t help him. Sitting him may have been worse who knows?
The sad fact is they tried a lot of things and nothing helped not even threatening to cut him. So as sad as it is they did what they thought they had to do. Release him and I agreed weeks before they did it because it was obvious he was going to take a pay cut and sit in order to get better. He was still insisting that he was the best players at that position an deserved the money.
Maybe if he takes the pay cut and they keep him he and Campbell battle it out for the starting position. I think he would’ve won it in time. But who knows. I’m very impressed with Campbell and I think he is going to be very good. So we’ll see….
April 10th, 2011 at 11:40 am
JaDavis didn’t want football period. Al Davis and his “scouting” team neglected to do the background checks and just got captivated with arm strength.
Then Al and the crew enabled JaDavis’ bad behavior by not suspending/punishing him for missing practices, showing up overweight and just practicing poorly. They should have stepped to him early.
But, that is the main weakness of Al Davis’ Raiders. Total lack of discipline and a bias toward the players over the coaches.
Hopefully Jason Campbell can fix this mess.
Raiders have never really developed their own QB in almost 40 years
April 10th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The Raiders did develop Marinovich into an accomplished artist.
Rumors were when he held the clipboard as the #3, he drew sunsets and other pictures during the game.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
priest, nonsense. The concept of drug addiction and rehabilitation has been an intricate part of our society for decades now. I know the Raiders are stuck in the past, but if they were stuck so far in the past as to where they really didn’t know that Russell would be a useless time bomb until he got help, Al Davis would still be putting his players in leather helmets. The Raiders knew Russell needed help, they just didn’t want to own up that they blew it with their number one overall draft pick, so they threw him to the wolves, brought in a bunch of babysitters, and prayed for a miracle. Being a “gambling man” is only cool when you win on occasion. When you gamble and do nothing but lose, like Al Davis, you’re a degenerate.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Basically, priest, what’s sad is the Raiders’ management of JaMarcus Russell. Their drafting of him, their failure at developing him as a player, their failure at taking some kind of responsibility, as a company, to get an employee help when he needed it, like all other companies in all other industries do when they have an obvious drug addict in the building. That’s what’s sad.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Well if the Jamarcus lawsuit that Al slapped on him ever goes to trial, we will see if a judge feels that Jamarcus was given the appropriate support or not, based on the outcome of the trial.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I don’t care how a judge feels, because judges typically seem to feel like doing what’s best for big businesses, coincidentally.
Russell was a well known drug addict before the ‘09 season, and he was on the field that season. That’s all anyone needs to know.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
I just watched the America’s Game on the Doug Williams Redskins, and it was pretty well known that Timmy Smith was a daily coke addict, and he set a than Super Bowl record for rushing yards.
So drug use alone is not reason enough, IMO, to say the Raiders are solely at fault for Jamarcus’ professional downfall.
April 10th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Teams having succeeded in the past with functioning drug addicts doesn’t clear the Raiders of any responsibility regarding Russell.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Their drafting of him, their failure at developing him as a player, their failure at taking some kind of responsibility, as a company, to get an employee help when he needed it, like all other companies in all other industries do when they have an obvious drug addict in the building.
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where do you work, the methadone clinic? in the real world if you are a drug addict you don’t have a job. i applaud Al for letting that piece of crap go. when you get paid 60 mil to play a game you should be responsible for your actions. what would you do if you paid someone even $60 to mow your lawn and when you come home the lawn is a mess and he’s passed out from cough medicine? your logic is ridiculous. that fat piece of crap deserves to be in prison for fraud IMO.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Irjonny, which “real world” are you referring to, the one in the 1950’s? The company I work for today, and it’s a large company, puts employees with drug or alcohol problems into rehab ASAP. They do not fire them. Most companies today do not fire employees that they know have a drug problem. Once they’re on with the company, it’s much less risk to get them into rehab. Firing them opens up opportunities for lawsuits. Clearly you’re the one not living in the real world. Your using a 1950’s business model to make an argument on handling employees with drug problems. Get a clue as to how companies handle such problems today, then get back to me. Mr. Real world.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Also, even if companies typically did just can people today for having substance abuse problems, the time for the Raiders to can Russell would have been in ‘09, not ‘10, when everyone and their mother knew he had a problem. So even if we did still live in your 1950s fantasy world, The Raiders still wasted a year, which still means the Raiders managed the situation poorly. Why don’t you hand me the shovel before you fall into that hole you’re digging.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
The whole thing with companies and addiction is whether you check yourself in voluntarily or not as an employee.
If you tell the company you need a week off to check yourself in for alcoholism, you really are protected for the most part.
If the employer comes into your office, and you are wasted, than they can terminate you on the spot, and since you as the employee did not give any advanced warning of your “illness”, you have very little protection.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
wow, seriously i would like to know which companies you are referring to. you know those papers you sign when you get a job? maybe you don’t, but there has never, ever been a lawsuit for firing someone for drug abuse…ever. it is ILLEGAL you twit.
i do agree that we never should have drafted him, but the fact of the matter is russell had no problems with the law prior. if the raiders didn’t draft him then it would have been some other team in the top 10 and the situation would have happened the exact same way. every rookie gets minimum 3 yrs to be a pro. the way the raiders handled it is par for the course. here’s your money, this is what we expect, if not you are fired. please explain to me what the raiders should have done because i’m confused.
by the way i own a successful company and have a minor in business so please don’t waste your time with preconceived ideas about how companies work. you have absolutely no idea (obviously) what you are talking about. either way even if your logic was not swiss cheese and his off the field problems were the raiders responsibility, he didn’t win games and fell asleep during meetings. he’s not a child he is an adult but that’s the risk you take with the no.1 overall pick and why you don’t draft wannabe gang bangers.
April 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
IF you use drugs most places will show you the door.
If the same company invested million of dollars and resources into you….then they may try to rehab you.
JaDavis’ biggest problem wasn’t drugs. He just didn’t care about football enough. He was more interested in the destination (riches, parties, sleeping in, hangin out, attending ball games etc…) than the journey (training, practicing, conditioning, commitment etc.)
Al Davis got burnt again. So it goes….hopefully Darius Heyward-Bey learns how to catch a doggone ball!
Well, hopefully the Raiders can overcome the foolish decisions and find a way to win next year
April 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
JFB and Gust…ugh out till the night crew
April 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
307.SnB Production Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
IF you use drugs most places will show you the door.
If the same company invested million of dollars and resources into you….then they may try to rehab you.
JaDavis’ biggest problem wasn’t drugs. He just didn’t care about football enough. He was more interested in the destination (riches, parties, sleeping in, hangin out, attending ball games etc…) than the journey (training, practicing, conditioning, commitment etc.)
Al Davis got burnt again. So it goes….hopefully Darius Heyward-Bey learns how to catch a doggone ball!
Well, hopefully the Raiders can overcome the foolish decisions and find a way to win next year
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All you Dr. Drew wannabees need to slow down. When was it confirmed that JR was released because of a drug problem? When was he confirmed as drug addict? Does somebody have “confirmed” reports of drug addiction? Any trips to Promises or the Menninger Foundation? And provided you can find that, when did it start?
April 10th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
SnB Production Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 11:40 am
JaDavis didn’t want football period. Al Davis and his “scouting” team neglected to do the background checks and just got captivated with arm strength.
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Are you being serious SnB???? You really think Al did ZERO scouting and picked JR just because of arm strength? You don’t think the scouts went back as far as his high school days, where he was a 4-Star recruit, in their evaluation of him? No game film or interviews or time on the grease board evaluating his football IQ? Please tell me you’re joking around. So if Al passes on him and takes Calvin Johnson, where do you think JR ends up? Is he even in the top top two rounds in your estimation?
April 10th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
311.Un-Lockout Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
JRuss and Calvin Johnson were like 1 and 1a in that draft. If we took Megatron the Lions would have taken JaSlob and gotten screwed like we did. What happened with Russell was pure bad luck. It had nothing to do with bad scouting. DHB was bad scouting, but not JaRuss.
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Finally a voice of reason! Agree that things would have gone south in Detroit if JR had gone there. But again, that has more to do with the organization than the player. How have things turned out for Calvin? Or Matt Stafford for that matter? How’d they turn out for Joey Harrington? One of these days, some of you guys are going to figure out that QBs are only as good as the teams around them. Look at JR’s numbers compared to Matt Stafford’s and tell me they aren’t oddly similar. Yet Stafford is the young up-and-comer and JR is the worst humban being that ever lived. What a fckin joke!
April 10th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
What happened with Russell was pure bad luck. It had nothing to do with bad scouting. DHB was bad scouting, but not JaRuss.
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i agree, the raiders had little choice but to get a QB and russell was right where cam newton is now. newton and gabbert remind me alot of the russell quinn comparison. either way you look at it the most important thing is that we don’t end up in a position to pick no.1 again.
April 10th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
JRuss and Calvin Johnson were like 1 and 1a in that draft. If we took Megatron the Lions would have taken JaSlob and gotten screwed like we did. What happened with Russell was pure bad luck. It had nothing to do with bad scouting. DHB was bad scouting, but not JaRuss.
April 10th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Debo,
JaDavis was overweight, didn’t work hard and loved the high life.
Raiders fell for it…and didn’t give the hard lessons to steer him straight.
The JaDavis disaster set this franchise back years.
Calvin Johnson? He is LIGHT YEARS ahead of any receiver in Silver & Black
April 10th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Must be a slow news day if the talk is back to JaMarcus Russel. That was a particularly sad chapter in Raider history. I’m willing to split the blame 50/50.
In Jr’s defense he had the misfortune of getting drafted right into the nasty Al Davis/Lance Kiffin divorce. Into a situation where the HC obviously didn’t want him. The contract holdout didn’t help endear him to the fanbase any, and made his rookie season a complete wash.
The ‘08 season showed some promise, though and hope for the future. There were some ugly moments early on, like there will be with any young QB. But by the end of that season he was playing well. He seemed to be developing a nice rapport with Chaz and JLH.
The Raiders ended that season going 3-3 the final six weeks, with Jamarcus averaging a QB rating of 90. He ended the year with a TD-Int ratio of 13-8. That’s very comparable to other young QB’s like Stafford or Sanchez, who often throw 20+ int’s their first 16 starts.
He ended the season with two impressive wins vs Houston and Tampa. With McFadden and Bush also playing well, the future looked bright. In a late season 31-10 rout of the Broncos in Denver he completed his first 11 passes.
Jerry McD made it sound like JR couldn’t complete 11 in a row the following training camp without any defense on the field, during passing drills.
That’s because something went horribly awry in JR’s life that offseason and his career and life caromed off in the wrong direction. He lost his favorite uncle/mentor, yes. But he handled it very poorly. he acted like he just didn’t care anymore. He showed up fat and out of shape, with that stupid mohawk that just screamed immaturity.
He was living the party lifestyle and started wearing all the diamond encrusted jewelry w/ images of himself and the self-proclaimed title of “The Chosen One”. How pathetic. You don’t give yourself a nickname. Especially when he hadn’t done a damn thing yet.
Then the season started and just went from bad to worse. Instead of picking up where he left off in ‘08 and building on that …complete faceplant.
It didn’t help to be saddled with two rookies who couldn’t catch a cold, but JR didn’t do himself any favors either. The poor work ethic started to show. being late for meetings, etc. He just didn’t seem to care anymore.
Sad. Really sad..all the way around. What might have been.
April 10th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
313.SnB Production Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Debo,
JaDavis was overweight, didn’t work hard and loved the high life.
Raiders fell for it…and didn’t give the hard lessons to steer him straight.
The JaDavis disaster set this franchise back years.
Calvin Johnson? He is LIGHT YEARS ahead of any receiver in Silver & Black.
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“Set the frachise back years” is the most overused, tired cliche of all time!! Tell me, who set the franchise back for SIX years before JR even took the field?? In JR’s first year as a starter, he won one game less then the team had won in the previous two seasons COMBINED! And we went from last to third in the division. You’re right about one thing: Calvin is light year’s ahead of any Raider reciever. IMO, that’s a huge reason why JR struggled. The organization has held itself back with stupid coaching moves and a failure to provide a competent supporting cast for any of the QBs. Hue was hired a year too late.
April 10th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
If we want to win the west and go to the playoffs our draft should be as follows:
Rd2: Wiz 2.0, This gives us: LT-J.Veldheer,LG-D.Loper,C-Wiz,RG-B.Campbell,RT-L.Walker(re-sign + spend 4th round pick on RT) I think DMAC and Bush can lead the league in rushing behind that.
Rd3: Casey Matthews, This completes an already bad a$$ front seven. Casey is just as good as his brother and we will be lucky if he is still there in the third, but according to most mock drafts, he will be. I believe some team will pull their heads out of their butts and pick him before this, but if he falls to us here we have to take him. He would instantly be the best player on our D.
Rd4: Chris Hairston (RT)Langston Walker is almost done, I say we re-sign him for 1 more year because he is a beast of a run blocker, and bring Chris Hairston up to speed in the mean time. Hairston was a pretty damn good RT in college, so he may win the job outright in camp (if there is a camp).
Rd5: Virgil Green (TE) I live in Reno, and am not usedto seeing the Wolf Pack play well, so I am always skepticle when it comes to Nevada players, but this dude can fly for being 6′3 and Al will probably take him. That is not a bad thing though, this kid is good, and we need another pass catching TE.
Rd6: DeAndre Brown (WR) This dude is a beast! He is a 6′5 posession reciever. An injury in college hurt his draft stock, but this is the type of WR we need to compliment all the fast guys we have. Schilens could be that guy, but we all know we can’t count on him to be healthy.
Rd7(1): You will notice that I have not taken a CB yet in my draft. That is because I don’t think it is that big of a need. Even if we are unable to re-sign Nnamdi, I think CJ and Routt are more than capable. And we have Ware and Walt McFadden, what does it say about them if we freak out and draft a CB early? I do think it’s vital that we re-sign Huff though, it’s hard to find a good single deep saftey in this league, and he seems to be getting the hang of it. Although, it does scare me that he didn’t get the hang of it until his contract year. At this point in the draft I would take either a FS or a CB, but at this point in the draft you just kinda keep your fingers crossed and hope for a diamond in the rough(which AL seems quite adept at finding, actually)
Rd7(2): If I take a CB above, I take a FS here and vise versa.
That’s how we win the west and make the playoffs for years to come. And once you’re in the playoffs, anything can happen!
April 10th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
University of Miami cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke is scheduled to work out for the Oakland Raiders and the Cleveland Browns this week, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
He conducted a private workout for the Baltimore Ravens a few weeks ago.
And Van Dyke visited the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday and Tuesday.
He previously worked out for the Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons.
Van Dyke ran the 40-yard dash between 4.25 and 4.28 seconds at the NFL scouting combine.
He also posted a 33 1/2 inch vertical leap, a 10-1 broad jump and a 6.97 in the three-cone drill.
He’s regarded as a late-round draft target.
In 50 games, he started 21 games and recorded 80 tackles, three interceptions and 10 pass deflections.
He also ran track for the Hurricanes.
He started three games last season.
At the combine, he posted the third-fastest time in the past decade.
An angular 174 pounds, the 6-foot defensive back ran the fastest time since Tennessee Titans running back Chris Johnson (4.24, 2008) and Oakland Raiders cornerback Stanford Routt (4.27, 2005).
Van Dyke’s lack of ideal size and strength are a concern, but his speed is rare.
He bench pressed 225 pounds five times at the combine.
April 10th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Buckeye,
Damn good synopsis. Just a couple of things. Stafford (13-20) and Sanchez (12-20) DID throw 20 ints their first years as starters. JR’s ratio of 13-8 was outstanding. Second, starting two rookies at WR was a huge factor in his struggles. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the last team to try that was the 2000 Bengals with Peter Warrick and Ron Dugans. That didn’t work out so well either. And you forgot the garbage pass protection, the 22nd ranked run game, piss-poor return game, and bottom-ranked run D. Losing Knapp and DeFillipo for Whackit and Tollner didn’t help either. Like I said though, damn good, balanced synopsis overall.
April 10th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Debo’SeymourBushGlenn,
Tow years later your lips are still super glued to JaMeatloafs testicles!
Do you see anything wrong ?
April 10th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Two*
April 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
It’s scrolling across the bottom of ESPN right now that Judge Nelson is expected to order both sides into forced mediation as early as this week, accoerding to Adam Schefter.
Good. Get these greedy jackazzes (both sides) back to the bargaining table and get a fair deal done. Sooner rather than later.
April 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Damn good synopsis. Just a couple of things. Stafford (13-20) and Sanchez (12-20) DID throw 20 ints their first years as starters. JR’s ratio of 13-8 was outstanding. Second, starting two rookies at WR was a huge factor in his struggles.
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You are 100% correct Debo, and that leads to the obvious fact that Jamarcus was fired for what he did Monday through Saturday, not what he did on Sunday.
How many times are you going to contradict yourself before you realize this?
April 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Just Fire Baby, most companies today do not fire people, even for coming into work drunk. They will almost always give you the option of rehab. Too many avenues for the employee to sue. All it takes is one phone call to a lawyer, that most fired employees will make because they’ve got nothing to lose. So, rehab it usually is, and back on the job. Second offenses might lead to more terminations. That’s reality. Not the stupid scenario that irjonny or whoever came up with.
April 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
irjonny you dumbass you can just do your own research. If you work for some mom and pops lawn mower repair business and you know they’d fire you for being on drugs, then good for them. But most large companies today, including the one I work for, will give you the option of rehab first, in almost every situation.;
I:’m telling you, you are living in the past! Your ridiculous scenario about hiring someone to do a job at your home and that person being high or whatever does not apply to what we’re talking about, big companies and their drug policies. Almost all of them put you in rehab on the first offense.
The Raiders had a different idea. Pretend Russell is fine, knowing he wasn’t. Bring in a bunch of people to babysit him. And, roll the dice. We all know the rest.
April 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
lmao
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Gust372 Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Just Fire Baby, most companies today do not fire people, even for coming into work drunk.
April 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Damn good synopsis. Just a couple of things. Stafford (13-20) and Sanchez (12-20) DID throw 20 ints their first years as starters. JR’s ratio of 13-8 was outstanding. Second, starting two rookies at WR was a huge factor in his struggles.
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You are 100% correct Debo, and that leads to the obvious fact that Jamarcus was fired for what he did Monday through Saturday, not what he did on Sunday.
How many times are you going to contradict yourself before you realize this?
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Glad you’ve finally come around to the idea that cutting JR for his performance on the field wasn’t justified, especially when you consider the garbage supporting cast he was handed. Please explain to me how I’m contradicting myself.
April 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
G’night fellas.
April 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
325.Gust372 Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
irjonny you dumbass you can just do your own research. If you work for some mom and pops lawn mower repair business and you know they’d fire you for being on drugs, then good for them. But most large companies today, including the one I work for, will give you the option of rehab first, in almost every situation.;
I:’m telling you, you are living in the past! Your ridiculous scenario about hiring someone to do a job at your home and that person being high or whatever does not apply to what we’re talking about, big companies and their drug policies. Almost all of them put you in rehab on the first offense.
The Raiders had a different idea. Pretend Russell is fine, knowing he wasn’t. Bring in a bunch of people to babysit him. And, roll the dice. We all know the rest.
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❶ Big difference working for a company like McD’s or wallmart and being an employee in the entertainment biz making millions.
❷ Some of these team owners pay out millions and expect you to be responsible. Why should they have to worry about your addictions. You sign a contract for millions and are expected to perform. Period. Big difference than working at a burger joint or a check-out line where you don’t sign a contract for millions.
❸ Why should Coach Davis have had to put JR through re-hab when JR could have afforded his own treatment? Most people who get into trouble have to pay for their own treatment. Why should Coach pay for it. He didn’t supply JR with the drank.
❹ The Raiders fall under the umbrella of the nfl. The nfl should have taken responsibility for JR and his problems since they are the ones with the ‘drug’ policy anyway. But their lack of action is just another underhanded deal towards the Raiders like everything thing else they do against the Raiders.
❺ Players are supposed to be professionals. Thats why they get paid like they do. Some of them need to act accordingly. The Raiders are not in the ‘babysitting’ business.
So I guess the Raiders had to let Russell play it out so they could fire him and sue him for cause and hopefully Coach gets some of his money back. Still a sad story, but most are anyway.
April 10th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
MB, I meant most companies today don’t fire people for substance abuse, even if they come into work drunk. I work for a large company. If you’ve never had a problem at work due to substance abuse, you can drive your car into the building while drunk, and they’ll give you the option of rehab. Doesn’t seem right, but it’s just how it is today. Companies are going to do the safest thing possible. Al Davis does things his way because he lives in a bubble. He has complete control of his company and isn’t at the mercy of any officers or partner, etc. Leave it up to some dumb Raider fans to think that all businesses are ran like the Raiders.
April 10th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
331.Gust372 Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Al Davis Macho Retardo,
I’ve already responded to all of those points in previous comments, so refer to them. Oh yeh, and f### you!!!!
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Ouch! So cruel. I try and be polite and courteous in response to your debating format, and with all due respect, just offer up some counter points with you. I’m sorry if you got offended. I’ve never called you any names so I don’t feel like I desereve that kind of reply. Instead of you acting like a little boy who just pee’d his pants in cold weather, and is stuck outside in the wind with a chill factor of -20, and is watching everyone drive by in nice cars with their windows rolled up because they have the heat going, you should show some respect and maybe you’ll get some too. If your into that sort of thing that is.
April 10th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
My bad. I was under the impression you were blaming Coach Davis for Russells ills. Sorry you wasted your entire day, when silly me just hopped in here after a nine hour day of college baseball double headers and wanted a few laughs before taking a break from work. Didn’t mean for you to get so offended.
Your usually the trouble maker who sniffs an avenue to create arguments so you can spin some kind of rant or ideology for no other reason than to argue and call someone names, so again, my bad for wrecking your entire days work.
So RMR, I’ll try and be a little more careful next time I debate with you. If you were as smart as you say you are, you’d know I was being sarcastic saying the nfl should help Russell, not blaming him. You seem to still twist words as usual. And keep blaming Coach for whatever reason. He’ll be holding the Lombardi next Super Bowl.
April 10th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Al Davis Macho Retardo,
I’ve already responded to all of those points in previous comments, so refer to them. Oh yeh, and f### you!!!!
April 10th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Macho Retardo wrote:
The Raiders fall under the umbrella of the nfl. The nfl should have taken responsibility for JR and his problems since they are the ones with the ‘drug’ policy anyway. But their lack of action is just another underhanded deal towards the Raiders like everything thing else they do against the Raiders.
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YOU CHICKEN S###!!!!!!!!!!!!
I THOUGHT IT WAS RUSSELL’S OWN FAULT!!!!!!
NOW YOU’RE PASSING IT OFF ON THE NFL????
AFTER AN ENTIRE DAY OF TRYING TO ARGUE THAT RUSSELL IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS OWN BEHAVIOR, YOU SUDDENLY SNIFF AN AVENUE TO BLAME THE LEAGUE FOR IT, AND THEN SHIFT GEARS TO THAT ARGUMENT.
YOU STUPID SON OF A B###!
ONLY A RAIDER FAN
ONLY SOMEONE WHO SHILLS FOR THIS FAILED FRANCHISE.
April 10th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
I don’t care if you were trying to be polite and courteous, Raider shills are the scum of the earth. You deserve no mercy, no pity, not even a benefit of the doubt. I’m doing God’s work by being mean to you.
April 11th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Fck Russell he’s gone. What do you guys think of my mock draft??
April 11th, 2011 at 12:14 am
You ask a real football question on this blog and nobody answers you, but if you wanna talk about polatics or some other non sense, then you’re in the right place!
April 11th, 2011 at 5:03 am
Good Morning Nation!!! I guess nothing new…zzzzzzz
6:05AM PST
April 11th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Well I gotta go weak blog, weak posts today (Russell arguments? He’s gone, what?)
I am about to vomit……see ya!
April 11th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Forced Federal Mediation ??!?!?!?!!?!!!
I guess the lockout is over!
April 11th, 2011 at 7:12 am
What happened to the Lakers?
April 11th, 2011 at 7:13 am
So the judge appointed Danny Southwick to mediate?
April 11th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Carlisle-Campbell
April 11th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Wimbley-McClain-Groves
April 11th, 2011 at 8:09 am
the blog is about as interesting as the lock out is these days
April 11th, 2011 at 8:10 am
I don’t see any starting spots open for our 2nd rd pick on the Oline or the front 7.
Really not happy with our FB position for what it’s NUMBER ONE job duty is. I understand the “threat” that he poses to the other team from a passind standpoint, but like Mike Vrable said “he blocks like a WR”. Move Reece to TE like most other fat WRs in the league.
Rd 2 – S
Rd 3 – FB
Rd 4 – DT
April 11th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Are you serious? This blog still isn’t fixed? Jezuz, who is the tech support guy…Max Headroom?
April 11th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Who is your IT guy Jerry?!?!
Jon Condo?
April 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Hilarious. Go Cubs.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Max Headroom…LOL…Love it!
Bo…hahahaha!
April 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
341.Dakota Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 7:12 am
What happened to the Lakers?
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They didn’t trade Gasoft for Carmelo!
AND ….
They traded my boy Sasha instead of that dumptruck Shannon Brown.
But they will STILL win it all, lol!
April 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Bo,
I will be in Chicago for two Cubs’ games later this month…the 26th and 27th…..a night game followed by a day game against the Rockies.
GOOOO CUBS!
April 11th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Cool Dakota. I’m going to a game on 5/11.
I love asking Cubs fans – in April – what their magic number is.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am
351.J Hill Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am
But they will STILL win it all, lol!
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They better, because this really is the last stand. It could be another decade before we are championship caliber again. Kobe is done as anything more than a roll player. Gasol can’t carry a team. Bynum will always just be a tease.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I can’t wait until the season is over so we can trade Gasoft to Minnesota for Kevin Love and their #1 pick.
Ricky Rubio and Gasoft are PERFECT for Minny.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:41 am
353.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Cool Dakota. I’m going to a game on 5/11.
I love asking Cubs fans – in April – what their magic number is.
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Really? I figured that with the opening day loss we were already mathematically eliminated…
April 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
355.J Hill Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I can’t wait until the season is over so we can trade Gasoft to Minnesota for Kevin Love and their #1 pick.
Ricky Rubio and Gasoft are PERFECT for Minny.
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Gasol to Minny for Love
Kobe to NO for Paul
Bynum to Orlando for Howard
We are the LAKERS….reloading time!
April 11th, 2011 at 9:34 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/11/panthers-piling-up-cam-newton-tape/
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Don’t know about you guys, but I think I’ll go with Nawrocki’s account. I mean, this Feldman guy only coached Cam. Nawrocki has never met him. LOL!!!
April 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
this blog is officially dead!
April 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo,
what 2007 Draft Grade would you give Coach Davis?
JaMarcus Russell : arrested, cut
Zach Miller : can’t block, injury prone
Quentin Moses : cut
Mario Henderson : arrested, free agent
Johnnie Lee Higgins : free agent
Michael Bush : arrested, back up
John Bowie : traded for Randy Moss, cut
Jay Richardson : cut
Eric Frampton : cut
Oren O’Neal : cut
Johnathan Holland : cut
April 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
# J Hill Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 8:10 am
I don’t see any starting spots open for our 2nd rd pick on the Oline or the front 7.
Really not happy with our FB position for what it’s NUMBER ONE job duty is. I understand the “threat” that he poses to the other team from a passind standpoint, but like Mike Vrable said “he blocks like a WR”. Move Reece to TE like most other fat WRs in the league.
Rd 2 – S
Rd 3 – FB
Rd 4 – DT
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you’re right i totally forgot about the FB position. who is the standout FB for this years draft class??? ( wish we would’ve gotten john connor last year)
personally i think we have a lot to improve on the o and d lines. also i think with our DB depth we can afford to take a different position early on.
rd.2 – OL/QB
rd.3 – LB Mathews or WR little
rd.4 – OL/TE
rd.5 – DB
April 11th, 2011 at 10:27 am
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Jimmy-Smith-to-visit-the-Raiders.html
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Guess we’re moving up?
April 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
They aren’t going to draft every player they bring in for a visit, but I wouldnt be too mad if they traded up for Smith if they feel Asomugha is gonna leave.
April 11th, 2011 at 11:49 am
317.Un-Lockout Says:
April 10th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
If we want to win the west and go to the playoffs our draft should be as follows:
Rd2: Wiz 2.0, This gives us: LT-J.Veldheer,LG-D.Loper,C-Wiz,RG-B.Campbell,RT-L.Walker(re-sign + spend 4th round pick on RT) I think DMAC and Bush can lead the league in rushing behind that.
Rd3: Casey Matthews, This completes an already bad a$$ front seven. Casey is just as good as his brother and we will be lucky if he is still there in the third, but according to most mock drafts, he will be. I believe some team will pull their heads out of their butts and pick him before this, but if he falls to us here we have to take him. He would instantly be the best player on our D.
Rd4: Chris Hairston (RT)Langston Walker is almost done, I say we re-sign him for 1 more year because he is a beast of a run blocker, and bring Chris Hairston up to speed in the mean time. Hairston was a pretty damn good RT in college, so he may win the job outright in camp (if there is a camp).
Rd5: Virgil Green (TE) I live in Reno, and am not usedto seeing the Wolf Pack play well, so I am always skepticle when it comes to Nevada players, but this dude can fly for being 6′3 and Al will probably take him. That is not a bad thing though, this kid is good, and we need another pass catching TE.
Rd6: DeAndre Brown (WR) This dude is a beast! He is a 6′5 posession reciever. An injury in college hurt his draft stock, but this is the type of WR we need to compliment all the fast guys we have. Schilens could be that guy, but we all know we can’t count on him to be healthy.
Rd7(1): You will notice that I have not taken a CB yet in my draft. That is because I don’t think it is that big of a need. Even if we are unable to re-sign Nnamdi, I think CJ and Routt are more than capable. And we have Ware and Walt McFadden, what does it say about them if we freak out and draft a CB early? I do think it’s vital that we re-sign Huff though, it’s hard to find a good single deep saftey in this league, and he seems to be getting the hang of it. Although, it does scare me that he didn’t get the hang of it until his contract year. At this point in the draft I would take either a FS or a CB, but at this point in the draft you just kinda keep your fingers crossed and hope for a diamond in the rough(which AL seems quite adept at finding, actually)
Rd7(2): If I take a CB above, I take a FS here and vise versa.
That’s how we win the west and make the playoffs for years to come. And once you’re in the playoffs, anything can happen!
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Like this mock.
Even though I would rather see a DT/DE like Thornton taken in Round 6 ahead of a WR. Since Green was taken in Round 5 in your mock.
Solid mock! I would LOVE to have both Wiz and Matthews on this team! They will pay dividends!
April 11th, 2011 at 11:53 am
367.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
rd.2 – OL/QB
rd.3 – LB Mathews or WR little
rd.4 – OL/TE
rd.5 – DB
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irjonny, nice job bro
2 OL, QB and a few DB’s are definately in play
I can see us adding a linebacker, but not necessarily a replacement for Groves at WLB. I like Q Groves. He got much better as the season progressed
Sam Williams, Ricky Brown & Bruce Davis can all leave imo. Travis Goethel is your backup MLB
TE = wasted pick
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Getting a TE like Green or Jordan is Round 4 or 5 is NOT a wasted pick! LOL
Getting a freakin CB or safety in anywhere between Round 2 and 5 IS a wasted pick IMO.
April 11th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Really not happy with our FB position for what it’s NUMBER ONE job duty is. I understand the “threat” that he poses to the other team from a passind standpoint, but like Mike Vrable said “he blocks like a WR”. Move Reece to TE like most other fat WRs in the league.
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LOL @ Jhill
Reece went from undrafted scrub to practice squad to 53 man roster when Luke Lawton got suspended for the final 2 games of the ‘09 season. had a few KR attempts.
Hue Jackson made him a potential Pro Bowl candidate and how freaking bad can he be at lead blocking when we finished 2nd BEST in the league at rushing?
KC finished #1. Can anybody tell me who their FB is, without a Google search?
I never liked Reece before Hue Jax “discovered” him. I always thought he was a utility player. RB/FB/WR/TE. Play multiple positions, but master of none – like Fred Wakefield. His blocking is getting better and with both McFadden & Bush both returning, I’m not a bit concerned about the FB position!
April 11th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Jimmy Smith visit is more of a “due diligence” type of thing, in case he drops to #48 imo
I don’t think we’re gonna trade up into the 1st round, but I have little doubt that if we do … it’ll be for a CB
Al Davis has gotten predictable in his old age
April 11th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Enough with the Lakers talk. The Bulls are winning it all this year.
April 11th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Is Word Press really that hard to manage? Jerry, tell your IT guy to get his head out of his ass.
April 11th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo,
what 2007 Draft Grade would you give Coach Davis?
JaMarcus Russell : arrested, cut
Zach Miller : can’t block, injury prone
Quentin Moses : cut
Mario Henderson : arrested, free agent
Johnnie Lee Higgins : free agent
Michael Bush : arrested, back up
John Bowie : traded for Randy Moss, cut
Jay Richardson : cut
Eric Frampton : cut
Oren O’Neal : cut
Johnathan Holland : cut
①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①①
You know Coach was still reeling from the 06 season and obviously was in a fog. 2-14 is pretty embarrasing no matter how you try and spin it and it clearly slowed his mind. How would you feel if you were the butt of all the ridicule he endured. Could you think clearly? Probably not. I’m sure in his mind he probably thought he was doing a good job, but he has the benefit of hindsight now.
April 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
rd.2 – OL/QB
rd.3 – LB Mathews or WR little
rd.4 – OL/TE
rd.5 – DB
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irjonny, nice job bro
2 OL, QB and a few DB’s are definately in play
I can see us adding a linebacker, but not necessarily a replacement for Groves at WLB. I like Q Groves. He got much better as the season progressed
Sam Williams, Ricky Brown & Bruce Davis can all leave imo. Travis Goethel is your backup MLB
TE = wasted pick
April 11th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Carlisle-Campbell
Houston-Kelly-Seymour-ShoNasty
Wimbley-McClain-Groves
I don’t see any starting spots open for our 2nd rd pick on the Oline or the front 7.
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Jhill, me neither
Al Davis loves DB’s. I would like Wiz or Kape @ #48 but it ain’t gonna happen
We need another WR since Higgins is a free agent and Chaz is injury prone. a veteran possession WR to move the chains would be ideal, but I have this sinking feeling that AD, Inc. will add yet another young wide for Sanjay Lal to mentor. You’d think he has his hands full with DHB, Murphy, Ford & Nmiller!
DB & WR in Rounds 2 & 3. Print That (unfortunately)
April 11th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Al Davis LOVES our current FB….probably because he doesn’t do what a FB is supposed to do….Block….you know how Al likes guys that can’t do what they are supposed to be able to do….Russell couldn’t throw, DHB can’t catch, Gallery can’t pass block…..Al loves that!!!!!!
April 11th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
McFadden? Well, we sure do need a good CB…
April 11th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
The next Madden Curse candidate is down to four men: Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Hillis, Michael Vick, and Adrian Peterson.
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still no Chargers, Chiefs or Broncos?
awesome. Madden rules!
April 11th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Al Davis LOVES our current FB….probably because he doesn’t do what a FB is supposed to do….Block….you know how Al likes guys that can’t do what they are supposed to be able to do….Russell couldn’t throw, DHB can’t catch, Gallery can’t pass block…..Al loves that!!!!!!
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Dakota:
Al Davis drafted Darren McFadden, Mike Bush, Zach Miller, Jacoby Ford, Jared Veldheer, Bruce Campbell, Sebastian Janikowski & Shane Lechler.
He traded for Jason Campbell & Samson Satele. He hired Hue Jackson and Al Saunders
Nuff Said. Commitment to Excellence
April 11th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Military Spending By Country:
1 USA – $687,105,000,000, 4.7% of GDP
2 China – $114,300,000,000, 2.2% of GDP
3 France – $61,285,000,000, 2.5% of GDP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
April 11th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
370.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Al Davis LOVES our current FB….probably because he doesn’t do what a FB is supposed to do….Block….you know how Al likes guys that can’t do what they are supposed to be able to do….Russell couldn’t throw, DHB can’t catch, Gallery can’t pass block…..Al loves that!!!!!!
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Dakota:
Al Davis drafted Darren McFadden, Mike Bush, Zach Miller, Jacoby Ford, Jared Veldheer, Bruce Campbell, Sebastian Janikowski & Shane Lechler.
He traded for Jason Campbell & Samson Satele. He hired Hue Jackson and Al Saunders
Nuff Said. Commitment to Excellence
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True, at least he got two or three right….McFadden, Miller and Lechler, if he counts as a kicker…the rest….yaaaaaaaaaawn.
April 11th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Carlisle-Campbell
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Still don’t get why everybody is putting Campbell as a starter and saying we don’t need OL help. Were there some reports last year of Campbell tearing it up in practice and just not playing in games? Has there been any positive reports on campbell (about his NFL playing ability)? any reports at all? So we’re basing his starting ability on Al being mad he wasn’t given the DHB treatment..
April 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Lakers have dropped 5 straight. LOL
I thought DMAC would be in here bragging after the Warriors smashed them, no?
I can’t wait to see who Dakota, Jhill & BSJ root for when L.A. gets eliminated in the first round.
Mavs or Spurs? possibly OKC?
April 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
374.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Lakers have dropped 5 straight. LOL
I thought DMAC would be in here bragging after the Warriors smashed them, no?
I can’t wait to see who Dakota, Jhill & BSJ root for when L.A. gets eliminated in the first round.
Mavs or Spurs? possibly OKC?
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The Lakers have thrown five games on purpose….they are messing with fools like you! muhahahahahahaaaa
IF the Lakers were eliminated prior to the finals, I would be going for OKC. Never the Spurs or the Mavs….
April 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
So we’re basing his starting ability on Al being mad he wasn’t given the DHB treatment
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LOL @ Sac
Basically, yes.
if Al Davis says he can play … he can play!
Bruce Campbell is the next Art Shell. 8x Pro Bowler
April 11th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Dakota Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
“I would be going for OKC”
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Printed & faxed to Buss, Kupchak & Jackson
fan card revoked!
April 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
377.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Dakota Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
“I would be going for OKC”
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Printed & faxed to Buss, Kupchak & Jackson
fan card revoked!
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Lol, oh really? I guess the Thunder and Lakers have some great rivalry I am unaware of huh? Back from their Seattle days perhaps?
April 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
At least we have one reason to watch the Raiders next year…if there is football…..and his name is:
MCFADDEN!!!!!
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