History be damned, Kaepernick a solid option
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, April 11th, 2011 at 12:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
One of the more interesting notes while I’ve been out with a furlough, vacation time and the like was an item that the Raiders were taking a look at Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
Lots of players visit NFL teams and don’t end up there, and occasionally a player will visit several places and be surprised to be taken by a team he didn’t even know was interested.
But the Raiders are at least intrigued enough to take a look at a quarterback who produced at a Cam Newton level as a run-pass quarterback, albeit against lesser competition.
Projecting and developing drafted quarterbacks is one of the worst things the Raiders do as a franchise. Al Davis hasn’t nailed one since 1968, when he took quarterbacks in the first two rounds with second-round pick Ken Stabler (No. 58 overall) quickly surpassing first-round pick Eldredge Dickey (No. 25) and leading the franchise to its first Super Bowl title in addition to winning the Most Valuable Player award.
I like the idea of Kaepernick anyway, because despite all the brave talk, it’s still too soon to assume Jason Campbell is going to be the quarterback who leads the Raiders past .500 and into the post season.
The offensive improvement under Hue Jackson was phenomenal, more than doubling the scoring output and at times looking like one of the most explosive offenses in the league. But it’s a quarterback driven league, and Campbell still has to prove he can be the player who can lead the Raiders to victory on days when the running game isn’t trampling opponents. Campbell’s best days coincided with big rushing days where he properly managed the game and wasn’t forced to be the centerpiece of the offense.
Kaepernick (6-foot-5, 233 pounds) looks as if he could become that kind of player, and although he’s extremely fast (4.53 in the 40-yard dash at the combine) and ran for more than 1,000 yards in each of his three seasons as a starter, he knows what lies ahead as a professional.
“I don’t think I’ll run as much in the NFL as I did in college,” Kaepernick told reporters at the combine. “ Obviously there are great athletes in the NFL and all of the run 4.4s-4.5s. I think I am going to have the freedom to run, but at the same time my mobility will give the ability to extend plays and convert on some third downs.”
In his player rankings for the NFL Network, talent guru Gil Brandt had Kaepernick as his 58th best player and behind six other quarterbacks _ Blaine Gabbert, Newton, Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Christian Ponder and Andy Dalton.
Mike Mayock, whose talent evaluations are among the best in the business, likened him to Tim Tebow, a first-round pick by Denver last year, except that Kaepernick is faster and with a much stronger arm. But it’s conceivable Kaepernick could be available when the Raiders pick at No. 48.
Of course, the last time the Raiders picked a quarterback in the second round, they got another runner-passer type at No. 59, and Marques Tuiasosopo never turned into the next Rich Gannon. Despite his athleticism, Tuiasosopo did not become good enough NFL passer to flourish.
At the Senior Bowl and during workouts, scouts have seen more touch from Kaepernick than they expected.
“Going into my junior and senior year I really started to develop the idea of throwing the ball so our receivers can make plays after they catch it,” Kaepernick said. “If I give them a easier ball to catch they can catch it, get down field and make some plays.
“ Opposed to in the past, throw it as hard as I could and try to put it on the spot where they might have to fight the ball a little bit to catch it and not be able
to pick up as many yards after the catch.”
A list of the quarterbacks drafted by the Raiders:
(Player-round-overall-year)
JaMarcus Russell 1-1-2007
Andrew Walter 3-69-2005
Ronald Curry 7-235-2002
Marques Tuiasosopo 2-59-2001
Billy Joe Hobert 3-58-93
Todd Marinovich 1-24-1991
Jeff Francis 6-140-1989
Steve Beuerlein 4-110-1987
Rusty Hilger 6-143-1985
Marc Wilson 1-15-1980
Jeb Blount 2-50-1976
David Humm 6-128-1975
Mike Rae 8-205-1973
Eldridge Dickey 1-25-1968
Ken Stabler 2-52-1968
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April 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I’m surprised that supporters of NFL management aren’t up in arms about the federal government forcing the players back to the table. I thought they were against government intervention. That’s Kenyan-Acorn so cialism, isn’t it?
April 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Ha ha! Hey, number 1!!!
April 11th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# Dakota Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
At least we have one reason to watch the Raiders next year…if there is football…..and his name is:
MCFADDEN!!!!!
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Good point. Our secondary is always fun to watch.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Jerry, you’re a bigger a-kisser than BHP.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
JaMarcus Russell 1-1-2007
Andrew Walter 3-69-2005
Ronald Curry 7-235-2002
Marques Tuiasosopo 2-59-2001
Billy Joe Hobert 3-58-93
Todd Marinovich 1-24-1991
Jeff Francis 6-140-1989
Steve Beuerlein 4-110-1987
Rusty Hilger 6-143-1985
Marc Wilson 1-15-1980
Jeb Blount 2-50-1976
David Humm 6-128-1975
Mike Rae 8-205-1973
Eldridge Dickey 1-25-1968
Ken Stabler 2-52-1968
PUUUUUUUUUUKE!!!!!! Jamarcus is arguably the second best QB on that list lmao….if you just consider their time as a Raider QB.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Go Oline to create a solid cast, and then get Pryor and Michael Floyd from the supplemental draft! That would give us the future franchise QB who runs like Vick, but still is big at 6′6″ to get an overview, and Megatron 2.0 – Floyd, who has the hands and ability to make the talented WR group a great and complete group..
April 11th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Donald Trump’s been obsessed with being a bigger than life power player since the Gambino family took a chunk of his ass in the ’80s. Up to that point he was just an ambitious businessman. Read Sammy the Bull’s book to see how bad they worked Trump. He doesn’t use Trump’s actual name but he gives every hint in the world. It’s hilarious. They just toyed with him.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Gust372/MaddenRaider
Why are you incognito?
April 11th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
The drafting of JaMarcus Russell turned out to be the official demise of Al Davis. Even those close to him have lost all faith in him now.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Dakota, it’s interesting you’re not upset at all about the government intervening in private business. Guess it’s ok if the government intervenes IN FAVOR of big business.
April 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
because talking about politics and donald trump conspiracies written by a snitch is helpful how to the raiders issues with protecting the QB??
April 11th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
instead of *itching about politics, how about offering solutions? on another blog that caters to those sorts of things?
April 11th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Contrary to ESPN’s belief, the Raiders draft based on perceived need with rare exceptions (Murphy being one of them). So, if a backup QB/potential franchise QB is more important then OL, then that is what will be drafted.
Thanks for banning one of the trolls, but now you need to:
BAN THE TROLLS’ SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNTS
April 11th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Unions, anti-trust, low info voter. Good Raider topics. Thanks for the Raider thoughts Kell & MR.
April 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
if Kaepernick doesn’t pan out at QB you can always turn him into a TE.
April 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I can see the future. Kell: please talk about the ignorance of the Fox News voter.
April 11th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Low Information Voter One who votes based on information gleaned from other low information voters, rumors, viral emails, and FOX “News”.
Low Information Voters are skewing the electorate in favor of the corporatocracy because they don’t have the curiousity or ability to research facts for themselves. Low Information Voters will vote against labor unions, in spite of the fact that the labor unions are responsible for getting them the 40 hour work week, decent wages, employer provided health insurance, vacations, lunch hours, and breaks, among other things.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Low%20Information%20Voter
April 11th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Gust372, the NFL enjoys anti-trust exemption status granted by the US government. As such they are subject to different rules as imposed by said US Gov’t in order to maintain that status.
And McDonald! Are you dissing my MAN David Humm?!?! He was a consummate professional backup quarterback and an OUTSTANDING kick holder for about a decade. All for the low low price of a 6th round dp. That’s value.
April 11th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
What a horrible qb draft history…. Only Kenny the snake made the cut…. And everyone else were bums… And nothing in between….. You can’t win championships if your quarterback can’t take over games… The Ravens and Bears were exceptions due to their hall of fame defenses…. Campbell is just a game manager with no defensive help, Which is a recipe for disaster… He is on the hot sear this year… We need to draft a qb to groom, but is it worth it ? I prefer to sign a proven vet…. Let’s hope our qb curse gets lifted no matter who plays for us
April 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Forget Kaepernick let’s get Demarcus Van Dyke, 6′1″ 176 lbs 4.28 40 at the combine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHTTKwmI_Uk
April 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I wasn’t concerned with the Kapernick work out here. felt it a ruse but after reading up onhim he played a more NFL ready system than most true spread offenses.
The pistol was closer to an NFL O than many think.
Preliminarily I would be against us taking an “Athlete QB” ala Tim Tebow and Kap does seem to have throwing motion issues but I think he’s a better QB prospect than T.Bowner.
Frankly, I’d rather see us get a solid RT for the next 10 yrs with the pick or even one of the btter CBs like Jimmy Smith or even Ras-I-Dowling but if Kaps the call, so be it.
April 11th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
24.The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I vote Republican because I am against all Gun control.
I think you should be able to carry a loaded firearm any time anywhere.
Unless you have done something wrong to void that right.
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Thats a wedge issue to make us fight amongst ourselves while the corporations rob us blind. TRUTH is the tech developed inthe Mid East and using our tax dollars has negated “a well armed militia” and any of your precious guns.
The ole run to the hills back up plan is the worst thing you could do. Stand out like a sore thumb with todays tech and hiding in plain site amongst the population with all the cams and spy gear today is out too.
Only chnace is to stop fighting each other and turn on the 400 who own half of Americas wealth.
April 11th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Gust you are single handedly ruining the entertainment value of this blog. no one cares what you think about life dude.
anyways i still think the raiders can do well in the draft after drafting kaepernick. this class is mediocre at best so a 4th rounder is arguably the same value as a 3rd.
April 11th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
What makes you a trailer-park Republican? Well, many things sadly, many things. But one of the diagnostic criteria of greatest importance is that you argue that you are voting for Republicans because they will make your personal economic situation better by cutting your taxes. What makes you a dumbfu<k is that this is never the case. The Republican strategy is to put a couple of cents into your left pocket while pulling several dollars out of your right pocket. This is in part because the dumbfu<ks also fall for the other side of the explicit Republican platform: supposedly to “shrink government” and “cut spending”. Of course what they mean is to stop spending money on stuff that directly benefits trailer park Republicans (and a bunch of the rest of us) while letting corporate oligarchs extract massive amounts of personal profit from public spending on big ticket stuff. You know, like corporate bailouts, useless military hardware etc.
April 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I vote Republican because I am against all Gun control.
I think you should be able to carry a loaded firearm any time anywhere.
Unless you have done something wrong to void that right.
April 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Dirty Racoon
Why don’t you move to Somalia then, dumbarse? There’s no govt there.
April 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
The Democrat support by the rich and upper middle class is the mirror image of the Republican support by the white poor. While the poor seek to cling to tradition in the face of a changing and uncertain future, those better off reject it; they are open to all the limitless possibilities that their imagination can think of and their abundant wallets can finance.
They want to be able to buy a book and choose from something other than the wide selection of bibles at a Christian book store, go to the theatre to see something other than Passion Play, hear a concert other than a Messiah, go out to dinner and dine on something other than franks n’ beans in the church basement. They want to know that they’ll face no social, or even legal, sanction, sleeping in instead of going to church on Sunday mornings. Perhaps most of all, if a loved one faces the end of life, they want the decisions for his care to be made by the family, not by a posse of Bible-thumping preachers riding shotgun with the National Republican Party, as happened in 2005 with the Terry Schiavo case in Florida.
April 11th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
9.Gust372 Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
The drafting of JaMarcus Russell turned out to be the official demise of Al Davis. Even those close to him have lost all faith in him now.
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Why? One of the most respected draft analysts in the business said Russell could turn out to be one of the “all time greats” BEFORE the Raiders drafted him. Very few people at the time (not everyone, granted) thought picking Russell at # 1 was a wise move.
April 11th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Mel Kiper Jr. Draft Day Assessment Of JaMarcus Russell“Three years from now you could certainly be looking at a guy who is certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league…..Obviously, he’ll need a little time. But you’re talking about a 2-3-year period. Once he’s under center, look out, because the skill level he has is certainly John Elway-like.”
April 11th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
LMAO at KoolKell referencing Urban Dictionary.
I created two different words on there in college, like a moron using my real name.
It shows up on a google search of my name still to this day, and was even asked about it in a job interview once, lol.
April 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I really thought Billy Joe Hobert was going to be a bad azz.
He was the west coast Tim Tebow of the 90’s in college.
April 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
I’m a republican. And proud of it. Kell u talk a lot of nonsense. And I hope people on this site don’t believe everything u say.u say we don’t like unions, that’s ridiculous. I believe unions did start off with good intentions but now it has transformed in to something full of greed. do u know government employees continue to get raises here in cali resession or not. and who fit the bill. me the tax payer. and cali is a democrap ran state. and were in a mess. I could get more into whats wrong with unions but this is a raider blog. I’m just responding cuz I’m tired of reading this site and hoping on reading some good opinions on anything raider, but I stumble on ur nonsense. and just in case u were wondering, I do have a good job that’s not union. its FedEx. there one of the top companies worldwide. FYI. And if u wanna talk anything besides raider topics, use ur MySpace!!!!
April 11th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I just submitted an entry into Urban Dictionary, defining a “KoolKell”
April 11th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
A colossal difference exists between IKEA laborers in Sweden and Virginia:
Vacation Days Per Year Salary Per Hour
IKEA workers in Sweden 5 weeks off $19/hour
IKEA workers in America 4 days off selected by workers, 8 days selected by management $8/hour
April 11th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Probably need a degree (a free socialized one) to work at IKEA in Sweeden, meanwhile in Virginia, they are probably hiring Marcus Vick at $8 an hour.
April 11th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
More news about the Raiders:
http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders
April 11th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Kapernick would be a solid, solid pick in the second round.
Drafting a talented QB who is a little rough around the edges makes a lot more sense at #48, than say the damn number one overall pick!!
April 11th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Question for the Old Timers here. Mid 80’s lineman named Stevens, 6′10″, my buddy is a friend of his, say’s he is Richous, quiet, down to earth good guy. I remember the name, but a Raider? Any help on a bio?
April 11th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Kell, are you saying upped class Dems are on the same social, economic, and brains level as low class Republicans???
April 11th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
You lack personal responsibility.
April 11th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can pick up Nate Solder, OT (Colorado). Big guy 6′9″/315, is athletical and versital.
April 11th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
The last time we sniffed the playoffs we had 1st/2nd round talent on the OLINE, not a raider-drafted QB.
IF we are going to make plays we opposing Ds stuff the line we need Olinemen.
We can still move forward this season w/o a project QB
But we can’t move forward without talent on the OLINE
April 11th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Anthony Castonzo, OT (Boston College). Big guy 6′7″/308, dude is good.
April 11th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Hey Kell, what is the cost of a 3 bed, 2 bath, 1800 ft2 house in the area of the Ikea plant in Sweden?
Ps looks like a good year to not have a first end pick. After the top ten, the next 50 are in any order according to team need, and opinion.
7:26
April 11th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
How did my post travel back in time?
April 11th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Lefty, I was told Stevens was the largest player who ever played, I know Al likes them big getting off the bus. Sign him!
April 11th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Jimmy Smith, CB (Colorado)6′2″/210. Speed here.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-04-11/oakland-raiders-could-re-tool-cornerback-position-around-colorados-jimmy-smith
April 11th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Probably need a degree (a free socialized one) to work at IKEA in Sweeden, meanwhile in Virginia, they are probably hiring Marcus Vick at $8 an hour.
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You prolly don’t know what you’re talking about, Corp bootlicker.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can wrangle a trade with Philadelphia QB Kevin Kolb to back up Jason Campbell and be ready to come in the game when needed. Possible future QB for Mr.Davis.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Greg Romeus, DE(Pittsburgh) 6′6″/270. This guy will be good no matter what anybody says.
April 11th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Glitch in the matrix again…
April 11th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Raidertalk I know and definitely agree that we need help on the Oline if Campbell is to be successful. I also know that a skillful rec. wouldn’t hurt at all. The guy I really is Greg Little unless we go with a wideout in the 2nd rnd I want Jon Baldwin from Pitt who could fall. I also wouldn’t mind Hankerson.
April 11th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Derek Sherrod, OT (Mississippi St.) 6′5″/305. Could be available.
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Orlando Franklin, OG (Miami) 6′7″/312. Sure Solder will be gone, hopefully Franklin will be available.
April 11th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Draft offensive linemen, please.
April 11th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis can get Gabe Carimi, OT (Wisconsin) 6′7″/327. Can go left/right tackle. Word has it he has a mean streak. Could be the kind of guy that fits Mr.Davis’ style.
April 11th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis ca get J.J. Watt, DE (Wisconsin) 6′6″/292. Good athletical pass rusher. Scouting reports give this man high marks for his ability to knock down passes. Also quik to pressure QB’s.
April 11th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Sure hope Mr.Davis looks at Lee Ziemba, OT (Auburn) at 6′8″/308 is a junior and has room to grow. He will go in the first 3 rounds.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Carimi will be gone. Wisnewski would be more likely at the current 2nd barring trades.
Same with J.J. Watts. Many have him pegged for Dallas.
Zeimba I’m not familiar with but at 6-8 he’d fit in with Oaklands “tallest line ever fielded”.
April 12th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Well, any QB is a “solid option” when your current starter is Jason Campbell.
April 12th, 2011 at 4:37 am
I hope the Raiders draft Ricky Stanzi instead. Imo he’s more seasoned. He has so much more pro-offense experience that the learning curve would be minimal for him in the NFL. Would be SET by the time he took over the reigns in 2012. He also does some crucial things very well, something that all our Raider QBs over the last decade have been poor at – he goes thru his reads, he never locks on to a receiver, he has excellent pocket presence, and most importantly to me, he steps UP into the pocket/pressure very well. He has a strong enough arm for Al Davis, I’ve seen him throw 50 yards in the air and not have the receiver have to go back to get the ball.
April 12th, 2011 at 4:40 am
CB Jimmy Smith also visiting the Raiders.
Smith is considered a late first type of selection, so the Raiders could look to move up and grab the next Asomugha, as Smith is pretty much a Nnamdi clone.
April 12th, 2011 at 4:49 am
Good Morning Nation! I surely hope we don’t pick a QB at #48, but hey…lord knows we do need one to groom (wait…)
April 12th, 2011 at 5:39 am
KoolKell Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
A colossal difference exists between IKEA laborers in Sweden and Virginia:
Vacation Days Per Year Salary Per Hour
IKEA workers in Sweden 5 weeks off $19/hour
IKEA workers in America 4 days off selected by workers, 8 days selected by management $8/hour
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Would like to also include a cost of living comparison, as well as any government regulations on minimum required paid days off.
April 12th, 2011 at 6:03 am
The idea of of drafting Kaep is growing on me day by day. Especially if we can still get Wiz2 in the 3rd!
April 12th, 2011 at 6:07 am
raidertalk Says:
April 11th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
The last time we sniffed the playoffs we had 1st/2nd round talent on the OLINE, not a raider-drafted QB.
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2002 O-line:
LT- Sims – undrafted
LG – Middleton – 3rd round
C- Barret Robbins – 2nd round pick
RG – Mo Collins – 1st round
RT – Kennedy – 1st round
2010 O-line
LT- Veldheer – 3rd round
LG- Gallery – 1st round
C- Satele – 2nd round
RG – Carlisle – 4th round
RT – Walker – 1st round
Seems about the same to me, as far as draft rounds, and the 2002 O-line had two guys we drafted and a undrafted FA, and the 2010 O-line had 3 guys we drafted and one we traded for.
O-line completely dominated 5 of our division games (only at home against KC I will say didn’t dominate) and also had their way in the Seattle game.
How many games did our QB’s dominate?? I don’t think any of our QB’s have dominated 6 games like our O-line did this year, in the last 5 years!!!
April 12th, 2011 at 6:16 am
[...] Raiders might draft Nevada quarterback Colin Kaepernick, Jerry McDonald at the Contra Costa Times points to their record of woe: “Projecting and developing drafted quarterbacks is one of the worst things the Raiders do as a [...]
April 12th, 2011 at 6:17 am
How about just getting good football players. The Raiders have to have a strategy for the O-Line and stop going to the junkyard for players at last minute.
Bruce Campbell? We’ll see…..stuff like putting Veldheer at Center?
Just get decent football players, who cares where they are drafted
April 12th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Thats feasible. Im nervous Al will get antsy and trade up to the top of the 2nd bottom of the 1st for Kaep though.
The draft certainly doesnt have the same luster this year with us not picking until 48. NE will pick THREE players before our first pick. They pulled the hustle of the century last year trading the 87th over all pick (3rd rounder) for the 33rd overall pick and they will probably get 4 more picks for that one too
April 12th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Just heard on Fox Sports that the Raiders and Jags are working on a deal where the Raiders would get the 16th pick and the Jags get the Raiders’ 2nd and 3rd round picks in 2011 and the Raiders’ 1st and 4th round picks in 2012.
The Raiders are rumored to be after Kaepernick and are afraid New England is after him.
April 12th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Campbell’s best days coincided with big rushing days where he properly managed the game and wasn’t forced to be the centerpiece of the offense.
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These words will ring true too often this upcoming season. print that!
April 12th, 2011 at 6:25 am
this blog is still effed up!
April 12th, 2011 at 6:25 am
10:27 am ET
April 12th, 2011 at 6:26 am
69.Dakota Says:
April 12th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Just heard on Fox Sports that the Raiders and Jags are working on a deal where the Raiders would get the 16th pick and the Jags get the Raiders’ 2nd and 3rd round picks in 2011 and the Raiders’ 1st and 4th round picks in 2012.
The Raiders are rumored to be after Kaepernick and are afraid New England is after him.
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that is absolutley rediculous
April 12th, 2011 at 6:27 am
it would be nice if one of my posts was in the right order
April 12th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Bring in Ronald Curry to run our offense!
April 12th, 2011 at 6:32 am
How many first round picks do the Steelers have on the O-line? (1; Pouncey)
But they have a 1st round pick at QB, RB, TE, and won a SB on Santonio Holmes dominating (1st rounder) as well.
O-line is very, very important, don’t get me wrong. It’s the process of constructing the O-line that people don’t get.
Atlanta had a solid O-line last year, with a 6th round pick at C, and a RG and RT that were undrafted.
April 12th, 2011 at 6:37 am
If Al Davis wants his man, or thinks that Kaepernick is the next (fill in name of great Raider here) you really think he is going to let a couple of draft picks stop him from getting his man?
April 12th, 2011 at 6:37 am
G’morning fellas.
April 12th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Read this carefully! Jason Campbell is THE BEST that this franchise, in its current state, can do at the QB position.
Grooming a QB requires great coaching, patience and shrewd peronnel choices.
The Raiders are a “Ready, Fire, Aim” team.
So their best bet is too roll the dice on a flawed veteran and hope they hit.
Did any of you see the QBs drafted by this franchise over the last 40 years?
Jason is flawed…but that is the cost of the decision making process here. Just hope JC can figure it out. If he can’t, then it will another flawed veteran.
That’s the Raider way and you all know it!
Raiders ain’t developing a QB on their own…
April 12th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Read this carefully! Jason Campbell is THE BEST that this franchise, in its current state, can do at the QB position.
Grooming a QB requires a lot of an organization. Great coaching, patience and shrewd peronnel choices. Do the Raiders do that consistently?
The Raiders are a “Ready, Fire, Aim” team.
So their best bet is too roll the dice on a flawed veteran and hope they hit.
Did any of you see the QBs drafted by this franchise over the last 40 years?
Jason is flawed…but that is the cost of the decision making process here. Just hope JC can figure it out. If he can’t, then it will another flawed veteran.
That’s the Raider way and you all know it!
Raiders ain’t developing a QB on their own…
April 12th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Vegas,
Just when I was getting all excited about the possibility of drafting Colin K, you have to go and call him the Tim Tebow of the west coast. Thanks.
I think the point is probably moot, though. His draft stock seems to be rising from a 3rd rd grade into early 2nd. There is a lot of talk and mocks with him going early 2, well before Raiders at 48. McShay thinks there will be a run on QB’s in early second.
I don’t see Al trading up to draft a developmental QB, but if he does slide to 48, it would be a wise move, IMO.
April 12th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Good morning Bcz
I have been on the Wiz in the 3rd round from the beginning of our draft talk, but I am backing off that stance.
I think he is a late 2nd/early 3rd guy. But if he falls to the 3rd round, he will be one of those “best available still on the board” guys, and I can’t see him getting bypassed by 16 teams in the 3rd round.
Maybe we could trade up in the 3rd to get him.
April 12th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Colin Kaepernick is the Tim Tebow of the West Coast.
Runs a ton in college, freak athlete, funky mechanics and delivery but very successful in college, super-smart from a very religious Christian family.
April 12th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I don’t buy that.
A 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th, to move up 30 spots??
Any trade up for a QB though, tells you exactly where Al Davis and Hue Jackson stand on Soup.
April 12th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Getting a QB that can just play has proven to be a difficult task in Raiderland.
Development? Absolutely! QBs rarely come ready out of the box. And those that are good tend to improve and get better.
Not regress.
My point in all this is that Jason Campbell is the best QB that the Raiders can hope for in the medium term. Even if JC fails…he will most likely be replaced by the next veteran of the day.
The Raiders DO NOT develop young QBs into the kind of a guy that can captain a team for a decade.
The veteran route is the only one that works here
April 12th, 2011 at 8:18 am
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL …
Awwwwwww man, some of you guys crack me up with the doomsday stuff.
How about the QB just being able to play?
Development?????
If a QB needs “development” he most likely was a project anyway.
If this kid can play, and we actually have some TALENT for him to work with, he’ll ben fine.
April 12th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I see his damn thing still isn’t fixed. My post ends up BEFORE the one I was responding to. Jeez.
Since they seem so unwilling or unable to fix this thing, it seems to give credence to the rumblings and conspiracy theories that maybe IBA might be looking to pull the plug on this thing in the near future.
April 12th, 2011 at 8:53 am
The idea of of drafting Kaep is growing on me day by day. Especially if we can still get Wiz2 in the 3rd!
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BCZ, me too bro
but I seriously doubt Wiz will be there in RD3. We might be lucky to get him at #48 !
April 12th, 2011 at 9:03 am
SnB,
I assume your are talking about a QB at the helm of this team, or any team, that can actaully make a difference.
My point is either you can play, or you can’t.
Either you will be Manning, Rogers, or Brady, or you will not. Who wants a Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, or Alex Smith? We already have that in Soup.
I’d like an example of a 2nd rd QB that was “developed” by any team that is really making a difference.
Very few and far between.
April 12th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Guys …
Try typing your post, cut it, hit refresh (F5), then paste and hit submit.
Seems to be working for me to avoid all the blog errors.
April 12th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Thanks for the tip, J Hill
April 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
COME ON LAKERS GET IT TOGETHER!!!!!!
Home court against the C’s is on the line!!!!
Damn!
April 12th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Who wants a Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, or Alex Smith? We already have that in Soup
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I wouldn’t put JCamp in the same category as Schaub, Palmer or Orton.
He’s better than Alex & Troy Smith. Those guys are on par with David Carr, Sage Rosenfels, Bruce Gradkowski & Tarvaris Jackson
I would say JCamp compares to Donovan McNabb, David Garrard, Tony Romo & Joe Flacco
second tier QB for sure
April 12th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Colin Kaepernick is the Tim Tebow of the West Coast.
Runs a ton in college, freak athlete, funky mechanics and delivery but very successful in college, super-smart from a very religious Christian family.
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thanks JFB
Kape at #48!
April 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
O-line is very, very important, don’t get me wrong.
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somebody take JFB’s temperature!
he’s not feeling well today. certainly not himself
what’s next? praise for Capt Kirk?
April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Two running QB’s
One black, Heisman Trophy Winner, National Champion, adjudicated as a jerk.
One white, nobody, adjudicated Raiders savior, by the same backwards people.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Two running QB’s
One black, Heisman Trophy Winner, National Champion, adjudicated as a jerk.
One white, nobody, adjudicated Raiders savior, by the same backwards people.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
what’s next? praise for Capt Kirk?
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Never
April 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
87.Buckeyeraider Says:
April 12th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I see his damn thing still isn’t fixed. My post ends up BEFORE the one I was responding to. Jeez.
Since they seem so unwilling or unable to fix this thing, it seems to give credence to the rumblings and conspiracy theories that maybe IBA might be looking to pull the plug on this thing in the near future.
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pulling the plug? That would be like keeping heroin from an addict.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Buckeyeraider Says:
April 12th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Vegas,
Just when I was getting all excited about the possibility of drafting Colin K, you have to go and call him the Tim Tebow of the west coast. Thanks.
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Happy to help, lol.
I think Kaepernick has a way stronger arm than Tebow did coming out of college, however Colin wasn’t facing SEC LB’s (like Pain McClain) when he was running all over the field.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:22 am
If this kid can play, and we actually have some TALENT for him to work with, he’ll ben fine.
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That’s J Wiggs answer to everything.
Make everyone else better and in turn you will be better.
How about a guy who actually makes OTHER PLAYERS better, rather than relying on said other players to make him better?
April 12th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Tebow is not an NFL QB. You have to wonder what the obsession with him by so many sports fans is all about.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:31 am
I already know J’s answer, where do you find these guys who make others better? And a fair point, as obviously there is only a handful or so in the whole world.
But you can’t give up trying to find them, and just throw your hands up and say screw it, Soup it is for 5+ years.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:36 am
That time of year again.
Visions of grandeur. Predictions of glory.
Oh, and racist BS.
Some things never change.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:54 am
I see the point being made about this kidd not playing SEC competition, but don’t forget. Nither did McNair, Big Ben, heck Brady hardly played in the Big 10. Also we can’t forget the most recent Josh Freeman in Tampa.
Why not?
I just hope we address the o-line or we may in big trouble.
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97.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 12th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Buckeyeraider Says:
April 12th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Vegas,
Just when I was getting all excited about the possibility of drafting Colin K, you have to go and call him the Tim Tebow of the west coast. Thanks.
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Happy to help, lol.
I think Kaepernick has a way stronger arm than Tebow did coming out of college, however Colin wasn’t facing SEC LB’s (like Pain McClain) when he was running all over the field.
April 12th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I can’t wait to watch DHB next year. He is a beast, one of the best sprinters in the league. LMAO!!!!
April 12th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I brought up the SEC thing, becauses as a running QB (as both Tebow and Newton are) it is a lot different running against LSU and Alabama as it is New Mexico State and UNLV (Two of Kaepernicks annual opponents).
April 12th, 2011 at 11:27 am
KoolKell,
Kaepernick was adopted by white parents, but his actual ethnicity is half African.
He is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi for crying out loud!!!!
Think before you type would you??
April 12th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Colin Kaepernick, half European half African, is pretty much the same ethnicity as our prez.
But don’t let that get in the way of KoolKell’s race baiting.
April 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
You guys still talking bout Russell?
JamarcusSlurp russell?
Kind of nasty, isin’t it?
April 12th, 2011 at 11:42 am
I have a question.
Has RMR gotten a job yet?
Has KoolKell sold anything this last year?
Don’t see RMR posts, so all I can assume is he is under another of his multiple monikers.
And I do see Kell still spending all his waking time sitting on his arse, whining about his lot in life.
Some things never change.
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