Ranking Raiders’ Round 3 selections
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, April 13th, 2011 at 3:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Second in a series
The Raiders are currently without a pick in the first round, trading it to New England for Richard Seymour, but have selections in the second through seventh rounds. Oakland has one pick in the third round, No. 81 overall. Here’s a ranking of the club’s third-round picks since 1995:
(Overall-year)
1. LB Kirk Morrison, San Diego State (78-2005): Never had less than 91 tackles in a season, coming in as a reserve in his first game and then starting 79 straight. The Raiders’ defense struggled against the run for most of his tenure, but they got an awful lot of production, leadership and good during his tenure before the selection of Rolando McClain last year.
2. DE Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin (71-2009): Is it just me or does Shaughnessy look to be on the verge of being a Pro Bowl player? Has 11 sacks in 32 games, can be stout against the run and plotting his improvement on a graph would illustrate a steady ascent.
3. T Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale (69-2010): The Raiders may get more at let tackle out of Veldheer than they got from first-round attempts with Mo Collins (1998), Matt Stinchcomb (1999) and Robert Gallery (2004). A very encouraging and surprising rookie season for a Division II player. Seeing how Veldheer adjusts without Gallery on his side and with new coaching will be huge. Needs to show improvement against top pass rushers.
4. RB Justin Fargas, USC (96-2003): The “crash test dummy” led the Raiders in rushing from 2006 through 2008, gaining 1,009 yards in 2007. Fargas’ hands were so-so and he didn’t run well in the red zone, but he no one ran harder between the 20s.
5. C Adam Treu, Nebraska (72-1997): A 10-year veteran who served mostly as a backup but started 44 times, which is more than you get out of most third-round picks. Treu was also the Raiders’ long snapper.
6. FB Jon Ritchie, Stanford (63-1998): A classic block and catch fullback who fit perfectly in Jon Gruden’s system, Ritchie had 129 of his 150 career receptions as a Raider, where he played from 1998 through 2002. Had a career best 45 catches for 408 yards in 1999.
7: DE DeLawrence Grant, Oregon State (89-2001): A Raider for five seasons, Grant was a very underrated performer on the 2002 AFC championship season. He started 14 games, had three sacks and executed a skill Al Davis holds dear _ holding the edge and playing the bootleg, funneling play toward the middle.
8: WR Johnnie Lee Higgins, Texas-El Paso (99-2007): After returning 44 punts for 570 yards and three touchdowns in 2008 along with 22 catches for 366 yards and four scores, Higgins appeared to be on the verge of being a key playmaker on offense and special teams. He has regressed in both areas in each of the last two seasons and is not a lock to make the 2011 roster with ascension of Jacoby Ford.
9. T Mario Henderson, Florida State (91-2007): Davis made a draft-day deal to get the pick to take Henderson, who struggled initially, was mocked by former coach Lane Kiffin, but started the last five games in 2008 and all 16 in 2009. However, Henderson, who struggled with his confidence, failed to seize the job and was benched in favor of Veldheer. His offseason has included an arrest for possession of an unregistered hand gun.
10. LB Sam Williams, Fresno State (83-2003): Had 12 of his 24 starts in 2006, but never developed into the force at strong side linebacker Davis had hoped when he traded up to get Williams in 2003. He has stuck around this long because the boss likes him, because he’s an excellent locker room presence and has value on special teams.
11: QB Andrew Walter, Arizona State (69-2005): A classic drop-back passer who took a ferocious beating (46 sacks) in the Art Shell-Tom Walsh offense but wasn’t a fit for Kiffin in terms of skill set or body language. Walter finished 2-7 as a starter and never made the 53-man roster of another team after being released.
12: FS Stuart Schweigert, Purdue (67-2004): It’s true playing single deep free safety for the Raiders is one of the most difficult positions in football, and few made it look more difficult than Schweigert, who too often seemed to be missing the key tackle as the last line of defense during his 42 starts from 2005 through 2007.
13: RB Joe Aska, Central Oklahoma (86-1995): Aska had power and speed that had Davis dreaming of Bo Jackson, but other than an 86-yard game against the Bears and a 136-yard explosion against the Jets in 1996, failed to adjust to the professional game after being a finalist for the Harlon Hill award while gaining 1,659 yards in his senior year in college.
14: T Paul McQuistan, Weber State (69-2006): Drafted to be a power and gap blocker for the Art Shell Raiders, McQuistan was not a match for the zone schemes installed by Kiffin and Tom Cable in 2007. He played in only four games in his last two years with the Raiders, struggling when he did play and failing to stay healthy.
15: Tim Kohn, Iowa State (85-1997): Spent parts of 1997 and 1997 with the Raiders but was never active for a game.
16: DE Quentin Moses, Georgia (65-2007): Not long after defensive coordinator Rob Ryan declared Moses “unblockable” during training camp, the rookie failed to make the final cut over fellow rookie seventh-round pick Jay Richardson, pocketing a $610,000 signing bonus. He was not just a third-round pick but the first pick of the third round _ the highest drafted player that year to fail to make the team that picked him. Moses has played the last four years with Miami with two starts and 3.5 sacks.
NOTABLE THIRD-ROUND PICKS IN RAIDERS HISTORY
– T Art Shell was the No. 80 pick overall in 1968 and became one of the best left tackles in the NFL history and was named to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
– RB Mark Van Eeghen, the No. 75 overall pick in 1974, is the Raiders’ second-leading all-time rusher behind Marcus Allen with 5,907 yards. He had 1,273 yards rushing, third best in franchise history, in 1977.
– FS Vann McElroy, the No. 64 overall pick in 1982, played nine years with the Raiders before finishing his career with a year in Seattle. He had 31 interceptions, was considered a sure tackler and made one Pro Bowl.
– LB Gerald Irons, No. 76 overall in 1970, started ever game from 1972 through 1975 before being traded to Cleveland. He was a solid player who was traded to make room for a great one _ Ted Hendricks.
– FB Steve Smith, No. 81 overall in 1987, distinguished himself as one of the NFL’s most fearless and punishing lead blockers for Bo Jackson and Marcus Allen, starting 84 games for the Raiders from 1987 through 1993. He finished his career in Seattle. Smith has been afflicted with Lou Gehrig’s disease since 2002.
RANKING RAIDERS DRAFTS BY ROUND
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April 13th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
pure luck…
April 13th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Team Needs: Oakland Raiders
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/13/team-needs-oakland-raiders/
I thought the first paragraph was unnecessary, hehhe.
April 13th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
It worked well last year why complain?
April 13th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Prayers to Steve Smith is his battle with that disease.
Art Shell has to be one of the better 3rd picks in NFL history.
Hoping Shonasty and Veldher make that all-time list too.
April 13th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Al is checking out all the available players on his Bell and Howell Super 8 with slo-mo forward and reverse. Has his favorites on the overhead projector.
April 13th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Kell you as a person defines unnecessary
April 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Six Years After Cheney Said ‘Deficits Don’t Matter,’ The National Debt Hits A 50-Year High
In 2002, Vice-President Dick Cheney and the Bush administration’s economic team met to discuss a second round of tax cuts, which would follow Bush’s 2001 cuts. At the meeting, “then-Treasury Secretary Paul H. O’Neill pleaded that the government — already running a $158 billion deficit — was careening toward a fiscal crisis.” Allegedly, Cheney replied by saying that “deficits don’t matter.”
Six years later, the Bush administration’s consistent belief that deficits don’t matter has increased the national debt to over $10 trillion. This is the highest dollar amount ever, and pushes the debt to 69% of the gross domestic product, which is the highest percentage since 1955.
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/10/02/cheney-deficit-debt/
April 13th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
WOW! Tom Brady doesn’t have to ever sell insurance now that he’s a 3x SB Champ. Just think what life would’ve been like if he was reduced to pushing life ins. oh! the thought of it just brings you to tears…………He got drafted in the 6th rnd of the NFL draft what a disgrace.
Someone needs a reality check!!!
April 13th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
word is that Newton, Gabbert, Locker, Mallett, Ponder are all 1st rounders.
If that is the case and i can see it happening Kaepernick won’t get to 48.
geez that’s 6+ qbs in 2 rounds. hard to believe but some mocks on nfl.com have it that way.
would you rather us trade up into late 1st/early 2nd to get kaepernick/ponder or say F*k it and trade up further to get mallett/locker/gabbert(if he makes it to 4+)
April 13th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
IMO we need a qb (kaepernick/ponder/mallett) and a physical WR (Greg Little) to team up with dmac if campbell plays like he did against the 49ers more often.
the raiders holding that party on draft day leads me to believe a deal is in place to move up to 1st rnd. if thats the case i think it’s either prince amakamura or ryan mallett
April 13th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
We might as well wait until next year to draft a QB when we have a #1 pick. I don’t think there is a QB in this draft that is worth trading next year’s #1 plus other picks for.
We have needs at FS, FB, OLB, and OL that are more pressing, IMO. Not looling forward to Hiram Eugene as a starting FS, Reece at FB, Carlisle at RG, or Groves at WLB.
April 13th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
j hill
you know after i made that post i youtubed highlights from campbell last season and you may be right. campbell seemed to come on strong and get the vote of confidence from the players late in the season. i guess i get a little antsy comin up to the draft.
what do you think about the unprecedented draft party during round one. are the raiders gonna trade up? and for who? either way you have a problem with takin greg little or casey mathews in the third?
April 13th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
24.Dakota Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Bonds found guilty.
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Yep. More than anything he is guilty of being lying , cheating, douche of a person.
He will not be a 1st ballot HOF, just like the rest of the steroid era clowns.
April 13th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
The only thing that makes me think we might trade up IS the draft party, lol.
Kinda has me on the lookout for some type of trade into the first round.
April 13th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Don’t know too much about Little or Mathews. My preference is a FB in rd 3, and move Reece to TE.
April 13th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
A FB in round 3???
Put down the pipe would you!!!!
April 13th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Another stellar use of federal funds in the Bonds case.
Millions of dollars spent, and he will end up with probation, and than appeal the case and cost us taxpayers even more money.
April 13th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
I see FS and FB as out top 2 needs.
Sorry JFB.
Rd 2 – FS
Rd 3 – FB, in particular the kid from Stanford.
Rd 4 – DT
April 13th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
16: DE Quentin Moses, Georgia (65-2007): Not long after defensive coordinator Rob Ryan declared Moses “unblockable” during training camp, the rookie failed to make the final cut.
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Are you sure he didn’t say “uncoachable”? Thats the knock I remember…
BTW, Jerry, you’re the best
April 13th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
You’re a complete malfunction.
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KoolKell Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Six Years After Cheney Said ‘Deficits Don’t Matter,’ The National Debt Hits A 50-Year High
April 13th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
You can get the Stanford kid in the 5th round, maybe 6th.
True blocking FB’s have a very short shelf life (see Oren O’neil) and spending a pick in the top 100 on a blocking FB is not getting any type of value whatsoever.
Besides, Reece is the FB, whether Hue likes it or not. Al has spoken.
April 13th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
I don’t see FB as much of a need at all.
April 13th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f38852/article/feeling-prepared-to-rewrite-one-of-my-least-favorite-drafts
Clearly the JaRu story lives on!
April 13th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
17.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Another stellar use of federal funds in the Bonds case.
Millions of dollars spent, and he will end up with probation, and than appeal the case and cost us taxpayers even more money.
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Bonds should of been tried in a kangaroo court. Would have made more sense, probably got a fairer trail, and cost the people of this country who provide the revenue enhancement $0.00.
Don’t like to have to pay PA’s with a axe to grind a lot of money for something that doesn’t have any value. So what if BB did or didn’t lie. Bonds has sufferred enough. Leave him alone. Go after people who screw people, in whatever manner on whatever level.
April 13th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Al Davis is a Draft Czar!
Long live Raider Al.
April 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Mason Foster Lb
2009 Started all 12 of the Huskies’ games at one linebacker spot, finishing second on the team with 85 total tackles while leading the Pac-10 with six forced fumbles. Named honorable mention All-Pac-10 as well as The Sporting News’ All-Pac-10 first team.
2010 Started all 13 of the Huskies’ games at linebacker, recording 162 tackles (12.46/gm) finishing second in FBS. Foster was named an All-American.[1] Received the prestigious honor of being invited to the 2011 Senior Bowl.
[edit] Professional career[edit] 2011 NFL DraftIn the months leading up to the 2011 NFL Draft, Foster was considered one of the top linebackers and was expected to be selected in the 3rd or 4th round. After the Senior Bowl, analysts were in agreement that he had in fact improved his draft stock with many saying he could go as high as the late 2nd round. Foster continued to impress at the NFL Scouting Combine where he performed very well in the on-field drills.
We could use him he’s a ball hawk!!!
April 13th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Bonds lied and impeded an investigation of illegal activity.Wether it be a drug investigation or a murder investigation it was still a criminal investigation and he lead and impeded investigators from doing their job.What he did is the same as a witness in a murder trial withholding evidence in a case.Everyone knows he cheated,that isn’t the question.
April 13th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Wow, somebody took their online, $19.99 legal course, Lefty. We all know the real reason why Bonds was the one who got nailed. So stop wasting your time.
April 13th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Another stellar use of federal funds in the Bonds case.
Millions of dollars spent, and he will end up with probation, and than appeal the case and cost us taxpayers even more money.
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To the real forces behind all of this, it was well worth the price. They would have spent twice as much. The objective was to completely ruin his legacy. They got what they wanted. It does tell you how “broke” the country really is, though, doesn’t it?
April 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Al Davis a draft czar? Yeah, no doubt. 2007 is proof of that.
April 13th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Barry’s beeeeen an arrogant b@st@rd for years around here. Pure Karma.
April 13th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Priest….slow ur roll on that Laker shhhhht…..they do not look good at all. OKC gonna have alot to say in the west and LA damn sure praying dallas beats Portland
April 13th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Lakers are getting ready to win another Championship 3 in a row again. Is Kobe as good as Michael Jordan?
April 13th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Oh look, it the “East” Sac chick.
10:33
April 13th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Priest!!!
10:35
April 13th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
28.Gust372 Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Wow, somebody took their online, $19.99 legal course, Lefty. We all know the real reason why Bonds was the one who got nailed. So stop wasting your time.
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The “real reason” Bonds got nailed is because he LIED to authorities in a criminal investigation. They’re just supposed to overlook that fact cuz he was good at baseball?
That’s the only “real reason” I see.
April 13th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Priest….the Warrior/Laker fan stuff u doing on here is not cool bruh
April 13th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
26.tacitus42 Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Mason Foster Lb
2009 Started all 12 of the Huskies’ games at one linebacker spot, finishing second on the team with 85 total tackles while leading the Pac-10 with six forced fumbles. Named honorable mention All-Pac-10 as well as The Sporting News’ All-Pac-10 first team.
2010 Started all 13 of the Huskies’ games at linebacker, recording 162 tackles (12.46/gm) finishing second in FBS. Foster was named an All-American.[1] Received the prestigious honor of being invited to the 2011 Senior Bowl.
[edit] Professional career[edit] 2011 NFL DraftIn the months leading up to the 2011 NFL Draft, Foster was considered one of the top linebackers and was expected to be selected in the 3rd or 4th round. After the Senior Bowl, analysts were in agreement that he had in fact improved his draft stock with many saying he could go as high as the late 2nd round. Foster continued to impress at the NFL Scouting Combine where he performed very well in the on-field drills.
We could use him he’s a ball hawk!!!
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Thomas Howard is wayy better, why not just keep him? 53 should be starting over Groves. Talk about a ball hawk, and a coverage LB?? Is there a better LB than Howard in that area?
April 13th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I aint trippin….. LA gone put the hammer down.
April 13th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
21.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
You can get the Stanford kid in the 5th round, maybe 6th.
True blocking FB’s have a very short shelf life (see Oren O’neil) and spending a pick in the top 100 on a blocking FB is not getting any type of value whatsoever.
Besides, Reece is the FB, whether Hue likes it or not. Al has spoken.
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Reece is not a FB, he is the 11th player on the O. He IS THE X FACTOR! Can’t waste him throwing “power” blocks.
11:15
April 13th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Ah!, The autumn GUST is a MADDEN-RAIDER, and it’s not poetry but degenerate cynical idealism.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:01 am
David Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
The “real reason” Bonds got nailed is because he LIED to authorities in a criminal investigation. They’re just supposed to overlook that fact cuz he was good at baseball?
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Wouldn’t be the first time “they” have done it.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Oh, look, it’s the guy who calls Al Davis a “draft czar”. LOL.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:08 am
30.Gust372 Says:
April 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Al Davis a draft czar? Yeah, no doubt. 2007 is proof of that.
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2007 oh yeah the draft where Al drafted Miller, Bush, Henderson, Higgins, O.Oneal, J.Richardson, Frampton, Moses, Holland, O and the highest rated QB of the decade! LMFAO
Oops he did miss on Bowie though. Must have been the Moss curse.
12:08
April 14th, 2011 at 12:09 am
In a few years the NBA will have 10 teams. 5 in NY, 3 in LA, and 2 in Miami. Fan-tastic!
April 14th, 2011 at 12:12 am
To Al Davis
Draft up for Peterson or Mallet if not we should stay and draft linemen
April 14th, 2011 at 12:12 am
“2007 oh yeah the draft where Al drafted Miller, Bush, Henderson, Higgins, O.Oneal, J.Richardson, Frampton, Moses, Holland, O and the highest rated QB of the decade! LMFAO”
And by year 4, the draft czar’s class of ‘07 is a triumphant 8-8! Year 4!!!
April 14th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Yes in year 4 they were 6-0 in the AFC West.
12:22
April 14th, 2011 at 12:52 am
@J Hill # 18, You see Oline as a pressing need as well, #11, but you have none in the first 3 picks – would you count on getting starting olinemen in the 5th, 6th and 7th rds? Or would you go through FA?
Michael Floyd seems to almost be a lock to go through the supplemental draft because of the suspension, he is a beast though, a legit #1 WR! Big, strong and decent speed, we should at least try to get him! A 2nd rd in 2012 is a bargain for his talent, and then we would have a great WR group all of a sudden! He runs a lot like Megatron and he has the ability to catch the tough catches! Wouldn’t use a high pick on a WR this draft, to many needs, but getting Floyd through Sup Draft would be a great pick!
April 14th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Immense talent, and could be great, but attitude and injury risk make him an iffy 2nd round pick, IMO.
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He sounds like Randy Moss. Has the talent to run away with the game, but the attitude to easily derail the team as well.
April 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Harder2000 Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 12:52 am
@J Hill # 18, You see Oline as a pressing need as well, #11, but you have none in the first 3 picks – would you count on getting starting olinemen in the 5th, 6th and 7th rds? Or would you go through FA?
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I’m assuming our Oline is set.
LT – Veldheer
LG – Loper
C – Satele
RG – Carlisle
RT – Campbell
I’d love to be wrong about this though.
April 14th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Michael Floyd is an interesting situation. To get the feel of him, I really look at his Sun Bowl performance against Miami.
To start the game, he was absolutely dominant, easily the best player on the field. I think he had 100 yards receiving in the first quarter.
Than with a lead, he started getting bored, and tried to catch two passes with one hand (dropping both) and got reamed by his coach and the announcers for doing so.
Than later in the game, he limped off with an injury (lots of nagging injuries for him in college).
Immense talent, and could be great, but attitude and injury risk make him an iffy 2nd round pick, IMO.
April 14th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Ford is our lone playmaker at WR. He took a reverse to the house, DHB fumbled his chance.
April 14th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Seriously, this posting too quickly comment is going on a couple of weeks now.
How hard can it possibly be to fix that?
April 14th, 2011 at 7:59 am
One thing you do notice with elite WR’s like AJ Green, Floyd, Hankerson and some of these other guys.
They attack the ball when it is in flight, trying to catch it at the highest peak WITH THEIR HANDS.
Meanwhile, DHB will leap so can craddle the ball with his forearms and stomach.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Gust372 Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 12:09 am
In a few years the NBA will have 10 teams. 5 in NY, 3 in LA, and 2 in Miami. Fan-tastic!
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Miami (5th) NY (6th) and LA (8th) were behind Portland, Cleveland in attendance and Utah outdrew LA.
They just need to get rid of the Nets, Raptors and Kings who are year in and year out at the bottom of the league in attendance.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Wow, everything worked out for the Lakers yesterday….as it should of course….
April 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Blah …
April 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am
51.J Hill Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Harder2000 Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 12:52 am
@J Hill # 18, You see Oline as a pressing need as well, #11, but you have none in the first 3 picks – would you count on getting starting olinemen in the 5th, 6th and 7th rds? Or would you go through FA?
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I’m assuming our Oline is set.
LT – Veldheer
LG – Loper
C – Satele
RG – Carlisle
RT – Campbell
I’d love to be wrong about this though.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Meanwhile, DHB will leap so can craddle the ball with his forearms and stomach.
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Learning to catch the ball is not that big of a deal mayne. It’s not like we need him to become the best hands guy in the league. If he simply makes the progress he made from year 1 to year 2, he’s going to be a factor.
The issue I have with the WRs really is more of the plays being called for them. They need more “action”, if you will. The last game of the season, there was a WR screen called for Jacoby Ford that damn near went for 6. Why hadn’t we seen that all year? We need to get out WRs the ball quickly and let them go for the YAC.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Well we did give a reverse to DHB in that last game.
He ran scared and fumbled, lol.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:38 am
DHB had over half his yards, almost half his catches, and his only TD, in the Seattle and Rams game.
The other 14 games, he had 13 catches for 180 yards and 0 TD’s.
I don’t really call that progress.
April 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am
VR…..nba should only be in the bigger cities that have more attractions and other pro franchises there. They need slash some teams so the product can be much better
April 14th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Well all know Bonds did steroids and lied about it…end of story. Therefore, the scumbag is NOT a 1st ballot HOF….not ahead of good ball players and guys who did not cheat like Hawk Andre Dawson!
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/the-bonds-jury-foreman-admits-he-didnt-pay-attention-to-the-grand-jury-testimony/related
April 14th, 2011 at 8:53 am
MOVE Oklahoma City to KC or STL. Move Sac to SD or Vegas. Move Blazers to Seattle. And for God’s sake slash UTAH, Charlotte, Toronto,Memphis, Indiana,and Milwaukee. NBA would be better over nite
April 14th, 2011 at 8:54 am
I’m talking about the eye test mayne.
DHB was clearly a better player year 2 than year 1.
In those 14 other games you speak of, I only recall the Az game being a “bad game”. The other games, it seems like he wasn’t even part of the game plan.
I’d suspect that DHB was good enough last year to catch 4 or 5 passes a game. I think there would have been 2 or 3 drops mixed in there, but he should have been targeted 8-10 times a game.
Was it Hue not calling his number, or Soup checking down too much?
April 14th, 2011 at 8:57 am
60.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Well we did give a reverse to DHB in that last game.
He ran scared and fumbled, lol.
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I don’t think he ran scared at all. That was a damn good defensive play by the KC defender. What ever happened to going right back to the guy to build him back up after a mistake? That play was early in the 1st qtr and he didn’t get his # called again all day.
Ridiculousness!
April 14th, 2011 at 8:57 am
As for the WR position…..when FA begins sign Chad Johnson to be your number 1. Ford, Murphy and DHB could learn alot from Chad and that unit gets better over nite
April 14th, 2011 at 9:00 am
DHB SUCKS as of now. Cant blame Hue or JC for him stinking up joint
April 14th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Jhill….we not serious as a team if loper satele and carlisle are you interior olinemen. might as welll get ready for 6-10
April 14th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Bauce Madness Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 8:53 am
MOVE Oklahoma City to KC or STL. Move Sac to SD or Vegas. Move Blazers to Seattle. And for God’s sake slash UTAH, Charlotte, Toronto,Memphis, Indiana,and Milwaukee.
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I wouldn’t move OKC or any team that has a rabid fan base like Utah.
Sac, Minn, Toronto, NO, and the Vancouver Grizzlies need to be put out to pasture.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I’d be surprised if the Top 5 QB’s are all selected in the Top 50 picks. somebody will be available at #48.
Last year it was Bradford, Tebow & Clausen
2009 it was Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman & White
2008 it was Ryan & Flacco
2007 it was Russell, Quinn, Kolb, Beck & Stanton (yikes!)
2006 it was Young, Leinart, Cutler & Clemens
2005 it was Smith, Rodgers & Campbell
etc etc
But every once in a while you can find a Tom Brady, Matt Cassel, Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, David Garrard, Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton or Chad Henne in the later rounds!
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Christian Ponder
Ryan Mallett
Colin Kaepernick
Andy Dalton
Ricky Stanzi
I’m willing to bet that 4 of these 5 QB’s will be available at #48
there will not be 5 QB’s taken in the Top 50 picks!
that hasn’t happened since 2007, when 4 out of 5 became busts … and the jury is still out with Kolb
April 14th, 2011 at 9:09 am
How do you see the Oline shaking out then?
Carlisle wasn’t cut, Satele was tendered, and Loper got a fat contract (for him anyway).
I don’t have a problem with Loper at LG.
I would love to see us get a dominant C but JFB keeps telling me how great Satele is.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:15 am
prior to 2007, 5 QB’s were selected in the Top 50 picks in 1999 (actually 6!)
Tim Couch
Donovan McNabb
Akili Smith
Daunte Culpepper
Cade McNown
Shaun King
4 out of 6 were complete busts. Culpepper had 5 solid seasons (out of 11)
prior to that it was the famous 1983 draft that produced Elway, Kelly & Marino
So 3 times in the last 28 years there have been 5 or more QB’s taken in the Top 50 picks
April 14th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Jhill put the pie down man…..Fk okc as an nba place and utah as well. Rabid fan base cuz its only ticket in miserable ass towns. Those players dont wanna be there for real. Its more than playing buut they gotta live there and also oppososing players aint excited aabout them lame ass places
April 14th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Was it Hue not calling his number, or Soup checking down too much?
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Remember he wasn’t on the field nowhere near as much as the season progressed and Jacoby emerged.
He definately looked better from his rookie year, but that’s like saying this chick who is a 6 looks better than the snaggle-toothed 3 posted up in the corner of the bar.
Will he ever become a dime, or even a solid 8? Not so sure.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I would love to see us get a dominant C but JFB keeps telling me how great Satele is.
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And our fearless leader, Jer-rah has been telling you as well.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Jhill……Loper is trash plain and simple. Carlisle gets worse every year. VR is smoking the same meth you are if he thinks Satele is any good
April 14th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Does Meth help you understand football?
If so, pass the pipe to the Ice Cream face tattoo guy.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:20 am
word is that Newton, Gabbert, Locker, Mallett, Ponder are all 1st rounders.
If that is the case and i can see it happening Kaepernick won’t get to 48.
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irjonny,
no offense, but I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. 6 QB’s taken before pick #48? that would be hilarious. That would almost assure us of getting a great player at a position of need, barring an Al Davis “WHO???” selection
April 14th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Lol Jerry and fearless never go together in same sentence
April 14th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I predict:
Cam #4 (Bengals)
Blaine #7 (49ers)
Mallet #10 (Skins)
Locker #25 (Sea)
Ponder 2nd round to Cardinals
Kappy #48 Raiders
Dalton late 2nd/early 3rd
April 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Bengals arent taking a QB. IF they lose Carson (99% likely) then they will go after one of the available vets, Kolb could very likely end up there.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
B,
You comment on the Raiders based upon what you think SHOULD be happening.
I comment on what Al Davis is going to do or what he does because I know what I think doesn’t really matter.
Fact of the matter is Loper was resigned to starters $, Bruce Campbell will start, Carlisle and Satele we not cut.
It is what it is.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
92.Bauce Madness Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am
But hey lets be all thankful overrated Non D asomugone and Michael Bluff are gone!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Shut up Clown… your alone on that one
on another note: those who actually understand the game of football, would know that Loper held his own. He wasent a dominant player, but he def wasent a hole in the line.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
I dont think anyone is excited about our OLine. I think most of us are hoping Hue is going to make chicken salad out of chicken shizz…
April 14th, 2011 at 9:53 am
http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/raiders_focusing_on_cornerbacks/4552944
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Curtis Brown competing for the starting job at FS.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:53 am
All of a sudden M Huff is the savior? seriously?
I’ll take Stevie Brown any-day.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:54 am
I’d take Stevie Brown and let Huff walk.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:56 am
The Raider man2man defense won’t tolerate mediocre Cornerbacks.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Oakland Tribune is a 3rd rate organization.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:58 am
IBA is a 4th rate organization.
April 14th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Jerry McDonald is an Al Davis a-kisser
April 14th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Looks like you can post as much as you want as long as it appears half way up the blog
April 14th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I’d like to see us draft a bad arsse LG with our 2nd rd pick, if I could play Al Davis for a day.
LT – Veldheer
LG – 2nd rd pick
C – Satele
RG – Campbell
RT – FA
April 14th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Huff, had a halfway decent contract year, as did Stanford Routt. Big deal.
April 14th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Actually, lol …
If I were GM for a day, Satele and Carlisle would not be on my team.
I’d go …
LT – Barnes
LG – Loper
C – Veldheer
RG – Campbell
RT – 2nd rd pick
April 14th, 2011 at 10:09 am
93.KoolKell Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Jerry McDonald is an Al Davis a-kisser
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No he isn’t. He just has respect for Coach Davis like a great many do for Coachs’ dedication to the Raiders and his accomplishments over his lifetime. Not that hard to see once you become free from the grip of anger and hatred towards another fellow human being.
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=51
April 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am
LT – Barnes
LG – Loper
C – Veldheer
RG – Campbell
RT – 2nd rd pick
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LOL!!!!
We might need to keep 6 QB’s on the roster if that’s the case.
LT-Veldheer
LG- Loper/Carlisle
C- Satele
RG- Campbell/Barnes
RT-Walker/ Byron Bell (6th round pick)
April 14th, 2011 at 10:30 am
VR….please spare me the gucci mane remark no tats ever for me. You gotta leave the 505 man get back to 702 bruh. Satele is average at best and isnt a power scheme guy
April 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Jhill…..raiders are playing for postseason at worse this year. Loper was signed as insurance. Al aint sold on dude as starter at all
April 14th, 2011 at 10:36 am
So where will Jacoby Ford land on Jerry’s list of top 4th round picks?
April 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am
But hey lets be all thankful overrated Non D asomugone and Michael Bluff are gone!
April 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I am indifferent to Nnamdi leaving, but Huffy24/7 was our best defensive player at times last year.
Stevie Brown and Hiram Eugene aren’t even in the same stratosphere as a single-deep safety as Huff is.
April 14th, 2011 at 11:04 am
‘Sup fellas.
I like John Moffitt from Wisconsin. I think he’d be a great pick in Rd 4. He could challenge Loper @LG (hopefully start) and backup Satele at Center so Veldheer doesn’t have to.
The draft guide I have calls him the best run blocking guard available. The Sporting News, however rips him to shreds and gives him a 6th rd grade. I don’t get it. They seem to really undervalue the O-lineman in this years draft guide. They give his teammate Gabe Carimi a 3rd rg grade. Mayock has him in his top 20.
TSN calls him weak and says he doesn’t finish blocks. I don’t see it. My Buckeyes went into Madison as the undefeated #1 team in the land and left Camp-Randall with a bloodied nose.
The other night ESPNU replayed the Rosebowl vs TCU. I watched through the prism of the upcoming draft. Marcus Cannon started at LT for TCU. He’s projected to move to the right in the pros maybe even inside to guard. He moves really well for such a big man. He would defenitely be worth a look.
To me Moffitt looked really impressive. On the final drive he was lined up at left guard..pulled and led the play to the right and took the MLB and drove him into the safety and buried them both. Clay rumbled for sixty til he ran out of gas. Herbstreidt ponted out Big John Moffitt on the play.
Later he drove the TCU DT five yards off the ball and planted him. The dude got up swinging at him.
Moffitt looks like a perfect Raider to me and would look real nasty lining up next to Veldheer, IMHO.
April 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Huff had 1 halfway decent year out of 5? And now, he’s indispensable?
April 14th, 2011 at 11:14 am
http://www.raiders.com/history/al-davis.html
April 14th, 2011 at 11:30 am
http://www.tiricosuave.com/2011/01/18/so-this-is-what-al-davis-looks-like-nowadays/
April 14th, 2011 at 11:32 am
LT-Veldheer
LG- Loper/Carlisle
C- Satele
RG- Campbell/Barnes
RT-Walker/ Byron Bell (6th round pick)
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Your own analysis of Veldheer at LT in the 2nd half of the season had him as a shaky LT. Barnes was a LT for an Oline that was above avg in Jax and dominated as far as RB goes.
A guy is athletic enough to play LT, but he can’t play C? LMFAO! The guy’s issue at C last year had more to do with Cable, I mean Al, throwing him in there with no practice. Green as an avacado. He’d be much better with a full offseason practicing there and a full training camp with starter reps. Better than Satele anyway.
You’d rather have Langston Walker at RT than a guy we can get with the 48th pick? Really ????
April 14th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Damn cant believe i agree Kell on huff lol
April 14th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Jhill we aint getting a RT with the 48th pick so kill that noise
April 14th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Buckeye,
Agree with your take on Moffitt and Cannon. Would love to have them both.
Oh, and this is for the Jamarcus apologists that are convinced that it’s the Raiders’ fault things turned out the way they did for him in Oakland…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/life-coach-fires-jamarcus-russell/
April 14th, 2011 at 11:42 am
How bout this updated Raider mock by DK:
RD 2- C/G Wiz, RT/G Cannon, RT B Ijalana, RT M. Gilbert, G D Watkins, QB C Kaepernick or Trade Down
RD 3- LB C. Matthews, LB M Wislon, WR G Little, RT J Brewer, RT J. Barksdale
RD 4- TE V Green, CB D Van Dyke, TE J Cameron, RT C. Hairston,
RD 5- RB A Green, WR A Pettis, DE/DT C Thornton, RT/G J Pinkston, CB R Carmichael, DT/DE L Guy
RD 6- FB H Hynoski, LB M. Herzhilic, WR T Tolliver,
RD 7- DT S Siliga
April 14th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Add G John Moffit as a possible Raider Round 4 selection on my Mock.
I was scouting Cannon and Moffit in that TCU/Wisconsin game and they are both good football players who will keep getting better.
April 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
A’s vs Tigers in Oakland tonite…..Emeryville chamber of commerce having a mixer in eastside clubhouse…….Bauce will be there so if anyone who has issue with me can come speak on it
April 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Bauce
You’re such a little hanger-on, groupie pootbutt.
April 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
JaMarcus Russell’s “life coach,” John Lucas, has cut ties with the 2007 draft bust and asked him to leave Houston, according to Yahoo’s Jason Cole.
Lucas, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1976 NBA draft and all-American tennis player, is renowned for helping athletes with addiction and personal problems. After initially working hard to get back to the NFL, Russell had lost motivation, forcing Lucas to bring in Charles Barkley as a mentor. Both men have now thrown up their hands in frustration with Russell’s “deteriorating work habits.” Perhaps most damning, Ravens president Ozzie Newsome, a fellow Alabama native, refused a request to meet with Russell in January. Said one source to Cole, “The title of your article should be, ‘It’s Over.’”
April 14th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Bree the Wannabe
April 14th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
DKnight,
This is basically a re-post from about a week ago, but here goes again anyway.
It seems like most assume if Huff leaves (I hope he doesn’t) that the competition for FS will be between Stevie Brown and Hiram Eugene.
I’m not so sure that AD doesn’t have visions of Jack Tatum dancing in his head with the thought of moving MM34 back there. It would help validate his 2nd round surprise selection.
I know the general consencus is that Mitchell is an in-the-box SS type only. That he is too stiff or doesn’t have the hips to play man coverage.
I’m not so sure, though. I thought MM34 held up surprisingly well in coverage last year, especially against some of the leagues better TE’s. He’s defenitely got the speed for it. One of the things that opened the eyes of scouts from the Bears, Browns and obviously Raiders was when he ran an eye popping 4.43 40 at 220 lbs at his Ohio U pro day. That might not be Taylor Mays 4.2, but it’s haulin for a safety.
People like to talk about Stevie Brown having a nose for the ball because of a few plays he made in preseason, but I don’t think MM34 gets the credit he deserves for the plays he’s made in his limited playing time. I believe last year he forced a fumble, recovered one, had an int and made a nice play to deflect a pass that was intercepted in the endzone. Those were in real games, not mop-up duty late in preseason games.
I wish somebody would post a link to his youtube clip for those who haven’t seen it or maybe haven’t seen it in awhile. I think it’s damn impressive. The guy seems to have range, intincts and defenitely likes to hit and times ‘em well.
I don’t know how it will play out, but I wouldn’t discount him having the opportunity to win a starting spot in camp and preseason. If Branch rebounds from a down year last year and holds onto SS, then MM34 might get a shot to replace Huff. He might just be the most intimidating presence they’ve had back there in awhile.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
104.Just Fire Baby Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I am indifferent to Nnamdi leaving, but Huffy24/7 was our best defensive player at times last year.
Stevie Brown and Hiram Eugene aren’t even in the same stratosphere as a single-deep safety as Huff is.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
114.Bauce Madness Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 11:49 am
A’s vs Tigers in Oakland tonite…..Emeryville chamber of commerce having a mixer in eastside clubhouse…….Bauce will be there so if anyone who has issue with me can come speak on it
^^^^^^^
Cool. I b there or in west side club by the bar wearing an A’s hat backwards.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
J,
I thought Jered was a tad shaky down the stretch and gets a huge pass around these parts, but still a rookie, and I am certainly willing to give him a year to see some growth.
Not sold on Walker at RT, that’s why I threw in my UNM Lobo project Byron Bell in the mix as well.
I just don’t think we need to change everything up. I knew there will be no Bob, and Carlisle the great will probably move on, but can we at least keep a couple positions the same and build on the O-line’s success from last year, especially against division foes?
April 14th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
The Bauce, Dknight and about 8,498 others will be in attendance tonight.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Kobe F’d up. There goes #6 out the window.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hottopics/detail?entry_id=87042
April 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Buck,
I am a sporting news guy.
I read the thing on Moffit as well, and it didn’t seem to jive with everything else I hear.
I think the rule of thumb with Badger O-lineman is take the interior guys and pass on the 370 pound outside guys.
April 14th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
122.KoolKell Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Kobe F’d up. There goes #6 out the window.
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KK,
Can you expand upon that. How exactly did Kobe F up?
April 14th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Kobe should have just pulled a Timmy Hardaway when pressed to expand on his on the floor comment.
The PC nonsense in this country continues to amaze me by the day.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
JaMarcus Russell’s “life coach,” John Lucas, has cut ties with the 2007 draft bust and asked him to leave Houston, according to Yahoo’s Jason Cole.
Lucas, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1976 NBA draft and all-American tennis player, is renowned for helping athletes with addiction and personal problems. After initially working hard to get back to the NFL, Russell had lost motivation, forcing Lucas to bring in Charles Barkley as a mentor. Both men have now thrown up their hands in frustration with Russell’s “deteriorating work habits.” Perhaps most damning, Ravens president Ozzie Newsome, a fellow Alabama native, refused a request to meet with Russell in January. Said one source to Cole, “The title of your article should be, ‘It’s Over.’” Source: Yahoo Sports Apr 14, 2:24 PMPlayer Outlook
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good ole JRuss
April 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
LMAO!!!
Debo loved to tell us about how hard he was working with Lucas.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
128.HairyBush Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
JaMarcus Russell’s “life coach,” John Lucas, has cut ties with the 2007 draft bust and asked him to leave Houston, according to Yahoo’s Jason Cole.
Lucas, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1976 NBA draft and all-American tennis player, is renowned for helping athletes with addiction and personal problems. After initially working hard to get back to the NFL, Russell had lost motivation, forcing Lucas to bring in Charles Barkley as a mentor. Both men have now thrown up their hands in frustration with Russell’s “deteriorating work habits.” Perhaps most damning, Ravens president Ozzie Newsome, a fellow Alabama native, refused a request to meet with Russell in January. Said one source to Cole, “The title of your article should be, ‘It’s Over.’” Source: Yahoo Sports Apr 14, 2:24 PMPlayer Outlook
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good ole JRuss
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I look forward to seeing Russell on an upcoming episode of Pawn Stars:
Episode 212, year 2013:
Rick: What’ve you got there?
JR: (inaudible)
Rick: Sorry, could you speak up?
JR: Chosen one necklace, diamonds and stuff.
Rick: What are you looking to do with it? Pawn it, sell it?
JR: Sell it. I need money for hookers, food and booze.
Rick: Well, okay, don’t we all? What are you looking to get out of it?
JR: Three.
Rick: Three what?
JR: Three mill.
Rick: Whoa! Let me take a look at it for a second….
JR: It is really shiny and has the name of a great NFL quarterback on it, and the chicks love it man.
Rick: Jamarcus Russell, wasn’t he that quarterback who is considered the biggest draft bust in the history of the NFL? How do you know him?
JR: (inaudible)
Rick: What?
JR: Its me, just give me some money man.
Rick: Oh sorry, didn’t recognize you. There just isn’t a market for Russell memorabilia….I can tell you that the diamonds themselves are worth something though, I’ll give you $250 thousand.
JR: What, I paid two million for it! Give me a million.
Rick: Here is what I will do, I will set up a passing range in the parking lot, and if Chumlee can out throw you with a football I get the necklace for $250 K, if you win I will give you $500K? Sound like a deal?
JR: Shhhh easy, yeah lets do it.
(in the back office) Rick: Man I watched this guy play for the Raiders, I didn’t recognize him when he walked in because he now weighs 450 lbs, but he couldn’t throw the ball worth a lick when he was playing, now that he hasn’t seen the football field for almost four years and looks like he lives at Golden Corral, I like my chances! heck, Chumlee probably would have beaten him in his “prime”!
April 14th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
130.Dakota Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
128.HairyBush Says:
April 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
JaMarcus Russell’s “life coach,” John Lucas, has cut ties with the 2007 draft bust and asked him to leave Houston, according to Yahoo’s Jason Cole.
Lucas, the No. 1 overall pick in the 1976 NBA draft and all-American tennis player, is renowned for helping athletes with addiction and personal problems. After initially working hard to get back to the NFL, Russell had lost motivation, forcing Lucas to bring in Charles Barkley as a mentor. Both men have now thrown up their hands in frustration with Russell’s “deteriorating work habits.” Perhaps most damning, Ravens president Ozzie Newsome, a fellow Alabama native, refused a request to meet with Russell in January. Said one source to Cole, “The title of your article should be, ‘It’s Over.’” Source: Yahoo Sports Apr 14, 2:24 PMPlayer Outlook
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good ole JRuss
++++++++++++++++++++++
I look forward to seeing Russell on an upcoming episode of Pawn Stars:
Episode 212, year 2013:
Rick: What’ve you got there?
JR: (inaudible)
Rick: Sorry, could you speak up?
JR: Chosen one necklace, diamonds and stuff.
Rick: What are you looking to do with it? Pawn it, sell it?
JR: Sell it. I need money for hookers, food and booze.
Rick: Well, okay, don’t we all? What are you looking to get out of it?
JR: Three.
Rick: Three what?
JR: Three mill.
Rick: Whoa! Let me take a look at it for a second….
JR: It is really shiny and has the name of a great NFL quarterback on it, and the chicks love it man.
Rick: Jamarcus Russell, wasn’t he that quarterback who is considered the biggest draft bust in the history of the NFL? How do you know him?
JR: (inaudible)
Rick: What?
JR: Its me, just give me some money man.
Rick: Oh sorry, didn’t recognize you. There just isn’t a market for Russell memorabilia….I can tell you that the diamonds themselves are worth something though, I’ll give you $250 thousand.
JR: What, I paid two million for it! Give me a million.
Rick: Here is what I will do, I will set up a passing range in the parking lot, and if Chumlee can out throw you with a football I get the necklace for $250 K, if you win I will give you $500K? Sound like a deal?
JR: Shhhh easy, yeah lets do it.
(in the back office) Rick: Man I watched this guy play for the Raiders, I didn’t recognize him when he walked in because he now weighs 450 lbs, but he couldn’t throw the ball worth a lick when he was playing, now that he hasn’t seen the football field for almost four years and looks like he lives at Golden Corral, I like my chances! heck, Chumlee probably would have beaten him in his “prime”!
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thank you for some amusement
April 14th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I’m sure it is all Lucas’ fault.
Funny that the source said he told him “to leave Houston”.
That’s kind of harsh. I’m sure the girls down at Deja Vu in Houston disagree.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
A source confirmed the team is scheduled to work out CB Curtis Brown (Texas) on Thursday
April 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
My Gawd, the difference in National Debt between Repugnant & Demo administrations is pretty dramatic. Look at the chart.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×2678226
April 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I seriously doubt Russell’s troubles with substance abuse and work ethic started the day the Raiders drafted him….I am sure had the Raiders employed a modicum of research into the guy’s background we all would have been cheering for Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson over the past several years.
Talent is only half the story with these players…..come on Al, hadn’t you learned that lesson by 2007??? Jezuz!
April 14th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@Dakota,
I met a guy at the barbershop in 2008 who went to LSU with Russell.
I left the barbershop that day throughly depressed, with his disparaging talk about my franchise QB. (Blinghy, Ghetto, Dysfunctional family)
Dude said he was “shocked” he went #1.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
MM34 might be able to play some FS, but not if they are going to line him up on a WR like they did a lot with Huffy.
I think you lose a little defensive flexibility without Huff’s cover skills.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
KK,
Al simply watched Russell kill a weak ND team in a bowl game and then watched his impressive pro day and the pick was decided right then and there. The Raiders probably didn’t even interview anyone that knew Russell…..Al knows better than everyone, so why bother right?
April 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I remember when I was blogging at that time of the 2007 draft (right when I started) and said we should draft Peterson, and try to win every game 13-10 (fresh off the 2006 team that had great stats for a defense).
People laughed me off the board.
April 14th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Dakota
How can a 81 year old man, who can’t walk or travel, and calls ALL THE SHOTS, scout & investigate players?
April 14th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Man these misses with top picks has killed us….McFadden is the only one of the bunch that has promise recently.
Heck, beyond Nnamdi and McFadden the first round has been horrible for Al for a long, long time:
McClain = obviously nothing special
DHB = complete waste
Russell = maybe the biggest draft bust in history
Huff = semi-complete waste
Fabian = junk
Gallery = huge dissapointment
Buchanon = junk
Brayton = worthless
Nap Harris = we cut Beikert for this guy? Really?
Gibson = joke
Jano = never lived up to the hype and no kicker should
ever be picked that high
Stinchcomb = worthless
Woodson = injury prone bad attitude
D. Russ = another addict
Mo Collins = serviceable
Rickey Dudly = hands almost as bad as DHB
Kaufman = Hey, a decent, but short lived career
Patrick Bates = complete waste of a pick
McGlockton = had some decent seasons
Marinovich = nuff said
Anthony Smith = zzzzzzz
Tim Brown in 1988 to find a really good Raider draft pick! wow
before 1989
John Clay = Bust
Bob Buczkowski = Bust
Jessie Hester = who?
Is there any wonder why we have not won a SB since 1983?
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