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By Jon Becker
Tuesday, April 26th, 2011 at 6:20 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
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April 26th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Priest – I thought you were joking around with the meaning of FFCA. I watched a little bit of Gruden’s show today on ESPN and that sht really does stand for Fired Football Coaches Assoc.
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Anyways. Draft coming up soon. Its been such an odd year/offseason. No Training Camp. No real reports from Jer to that effect. I’m curious to know the players maturity. Hopefully we can get up to speed quick. The season is right around the corner.
April 26th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Oh yeah. I saw that Raider Hater Adam Scheftner today. He’s lucky I was suited up.
April 26th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’m just curious what the conversation was like between Hue and the players that got in trouble. Bush, McClain and Henderson.
I gaurantee you nnamdi has been contacted and they’re getting ready to sign him as soon as it’s doable.
April 26th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Oakland Raiders: Stefen Wisniewski, C/G, Penn State
As Greg Cox wrote in his 2011 NFL Mock Draft, Stefen Wisniewski makes a ton of sense for the Raiders. His uncle Steve played 13 seasons for Al Davis, qualifying for the Pro Bowl eight times. Steve was recently hired as an assistant coach.
walterfootball.com
their mock has 7 QB’s taken in the first 45 picks!
April 26th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
People think Gruden is kidding around when he says things like This and that will get you fired. His firing from Tampa really screwed with his head. I’m not sure he wants to coach again unless it’s the right situation. As I’ve said many times he just got a little too big headed and thought his stuff didn’t stink.
Had he been just a bit more patient he could’ve had a real career here. Instead he was demanding all kinds of crap he hadn’t proven that he deserved if he stays and wins a SB he would’ve gotten whatever he wanted within reason. Maybe wee win back to back SB’s but then he would’ve done the same thing. Head too big!!
April 26th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Now Hue Jackson is in line for becoming the darling of the Raider Nation. If he can mastermind a trip to the SB and win it at Mr Davis’ age he’ll turn this organization over to him, relatively speaking. And I think Hue is just mature enough to know how to handle that.
April 26th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
That would be a HUGE mistake 7 QB’s in first 45 licks most of these guys are at least 2 years away. I wouldn’t even take Cam Newton #1 overall. He’s just too green and so are most of them, tghe demand to get a QB is pushing these guys much higher than they ranked. In a normal situation there are only 3 that should go in the first two rnds. Guys like Kaepernick and Locker should be 3rd rnd picks the rest even later and you’ll get great value. Gabbert is a very solid high 2nd rndr, Newton low 1st and Mallett low 1st. The rest 3rd and after. And you’ll get good value.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
NFLN says Redskins are willing to trade up to #2 to get laine Gabbert.
They should do their homework. Frankly, I hope they dop so Denver doesn’t get Dareus.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Absolutely. And thats the thing. All of these QBs need work or are projects. Why they are so high on the boards is beyond belief. They don’t stack up talent wise to the Mannings, Bradford, VY, Cutler, not even that bust JR. If any of those guys were in this draft they would make these guys look stupid.
Cam Newton is a late first at best. I agree with Charlie Casserly there. He has him a a late 1st too.
Teams are really reaching this draft. Most of these QBs won’t pan out. Thats the truth. If they do it may only be the 2nd time in history (and I can’t really recall the 1st).
Mayock believes as many as 8 can be drafted in the top 3, maybe even 2 with a stretch. To me, that simply means lots of talent should fall to us in other areas if this happens. All the same by me.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Cam Newton is JaMarcus 2.0. Anybody who takes him will probably lose his job over the pick.
I’d LOVE to see Oakland take one of the top RT’s (Carpenter or Gilbert) in Round 2, then Stefan Wiz in Round 3. That would be perfect. They could follow up with a developmental-type QB in the later rounds….
April 26th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Well maybe mid to late 1st for Cam Newton. But a mid is kinda stretching it for me as he needs to sit for a few by most indications.
But these teams need QBs …so what do you do?
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Man that is scary the Redskins have made some monumental mistakes drafting QB’s. Heath Shuler to begin with and I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful. I think they traded for Joe Theisman or picked him up as a FA after he was a bust somewhere else. I gaurantee you they wish they had kept Campbell, now they’re spending another high draft pick on a QB. If campbell is successful here Shanahan is going to look like a complete idiot especially if he drafts another bust. Teams are desparate for QB’s and they’re reaching like crazy. That’s why I want to get a good young QB now when we don’t need him.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Man that is scary the Redskins have made some monumental mistakes drafting QB’s. Heath Shuler to begin with and I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful.
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????? You mean the Raiders not Redskins, yes?
April 26th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
All this talk about quarterbacks, and I understand. Campbell is the last year of his contract, and he may or may not be a Raider after that. Also, there’s nobody behind him that inspires a whole lot of confidence.
We may take one, and as I said I understand the reasoning, but if we don’t address the offensive line in a serious manner (meaning, not settling for late-round projects as an afterthought) it’s not going to matter who the quarterback is.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
My big problems with Cam Newton:
Played in the SEC.
Had awesome OL’s that kept the pressure off.
Wants to be an “Icon” more than a football player,
Questionable commitment to learning his craft.
Sound (JaMarcus) like anyone (JaMarcus) else you’re familar (JaMarcus) with?
April 26th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
If they don ‘t address the Oline we would all be shocked so that’s that. But i would get a QB now when we don’t need to and get it OVER WITH.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
I agree RaiderDuck.
O line first then a QB in the later rounds.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
I have that same problem with Mallett, most young kids tend to not have priorities in order.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
What up Nation!
I get those bleecher report emails and I know most of the time they’re full of crap. But today’s version had a good idea.
It had Al trading a 3rd or 4th to the Titans for Vince Young.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
@SD4Raider:
Trading a 4th Rounder for Vince Young? A somewhat more mobile JaMarcus? No thanks.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Priest,
It is absolutely possible to reach for a QB in the 2nd round, if for no other reason than to get a certain player before someone else does. I just really hope that the reasoning is more sound than that when we pick.
I would rather get an offensive lineman that can help protect the quarterback we have with our second-rounder than use that pick on a QB that may or may not be a quality starter down the road.
I don’t share your view that a couple of the talked-about QBs are going to slip to the third and fourth rounds, and this class does not get me excited at all. That tells me that if we’re going to take a QB it will be early, and I just don’t see any slam dunks at #48 that would let me pass up a good, solid lineman that could help us right away.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
ET do you see any slam dunk Olineman? the sam egoes for any player we draft I’m not sure why people think if we draft a Lineman he’s automatically going to be a great player.
I just want a player and I want to get a QB for the future so we don’t have to use a high pick later. But only if it’s the QB Hue wants I’m not for grabbing some guy just to say we did. If there is a stud Olineman they really want I’m all for it. But I don’t want one just to say we got one.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
The only similarity between VY and JaMarcus was in the movie “Amistad.” Other than that, there is NO comparison.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Raiders should dump Campbell, make whatever moves necessary to draft Cam Newton, hang on to all of the proven good players possible, pay them whatever you have to. Then, we’ll see.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Incidently NO ONE wants to solidify more than I do b ut to be honest I’m just not that crazy about the Oline players in this draft. There are a few if we can get them I would love to have like Danny Watkins and afew others but man I’ll be pissed if we whiff on one and then don’t get a young QB. I would rather take a RB than draft a lineman everybody’s happy and the guy can’t play.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Whoever drafts Cam Newton wins the Super Bowl in 3 years. You can take that to the bank. So, why not us? Let’s get him. And start him. Because he would be the best QB on our roster by a long shot. He’s on that Manning level. He starts right away.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Retards make some ignorant inflamatory statements to get a rise out of people because they’re incapable of intelligent insightful conversation.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Oh, is that why you make inflammatory statements, priest?
April 26th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
27. BINGO!
April 26th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Oh, I agree with him, too. He just doesn’t realize he’s talking about himself.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
They don’t call Kobe Bryant the “Black Mamba” for nothin’. His game is SIICCCKKK!!!!……period
April 26th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Marcus Cannon tests positive for lymphoma
Source: Marcus Cannon tests positive for lymphoma
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 26, 2011, 12:30 PM EDT
MarcusCannon
TCU offensive lineman Marcus Cannon has tested positive for a treatable form of lymphoma after a battery of tests, a league source tells PFT.
The good news for Cannon is that this form of non-Hodgkin lymphoma is treatable. The timing of the news is unfortunate of course just days before the draft.
A rumor was circulated last month that Cannon had testicular cancer, which isn’t true. A biopsy was then performed to clear the matter up, with the results sent to all 32 teams.
Unfortunately, the results of the biopsy showed that Cannon has lymphoma. Doctors had previously been aware of a benign mass that was present for years and is in his stomach/pelvic area.
Doctors are recommending that Cannon will have to undergo chemotherapy, which could be potentially finished in 12 weeks. Even if Cannon has the most advanced stage of the disease, he could be finished with treatments in 24 weeks and the doctors have informed Cannon he could “hopefully” continue with his football career at that time.
We wish Cannon all the best at this difficult time as he readies to treat the disease.
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So the question of the moment is how far will Marcus Cannon fall in the draft given his now diagnosed yet curable illness?
April 26th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
@Gust372:
“Whoever takes Cam Newton wins the Super Bowl in 3 years”
-The same Cam Newton who’s had all kind of off-the-field crap?
-The same Cam Newton who said he wants to be an “Icon” rather than an NFL QB?
-The same Cam Newton who’s thrown only 230+ college passes?
Uh, no.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Nobody plays D on Kobe. If Kobe played in the ’80s he’d average 15 pts a game and would have only been in the league 6 or 7 years.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Maybe if we can pick up Cannon in the 4th or 5th round, assuming he lasts that long, he can be another steal like Michael Bush was (4th round, 1st pick – broken leg).
April 26th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Cam Newton hasn’t had any “off the field crap”. He’s a good kid with good character.
He never said he wanted to be an icon OPPOSED to an NFL QB. Nice spin there.
Whoever drafts this kid is hoisting the Lombardi in 3 years. It might as well be us. That’s all I’m saying.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
36.Gust372 Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Cam Newton hasn’t had any “off the field crap”. He’s a good kid with good character.
He never said he wanted to be an icon OPPOSED to an NFL QB. Nice spin there.
Whoever drafts this kid is hoisting the Lombardi in 3 years. It might as well be us. That’s all I’m saying.
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From Heisting a Laptop to Hoisting the Lombardi. Would make a nice title for SI article.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
No, he never “heisted” a lap top. Keep digging that hole. You’ll have no credibility by the time the night’s over.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Status quo with MR and KK…nothing valuable to add to any conversation, so throwing the BS on the proverbial wall hoping it sticks has to suffice.
No “off the field crap” for Kim Newton? I guess he stole that laptop on the 50-yard line? The vest and tie and shiny mortician’s smile can’t hide the guy’s true personality… it’s weak and elusive and sly…only topped by his dumber-er father.
Hoisting the Lombardi in 3?? He hasn’t proven he can hoist a football yet. He may be good someday…but he won’t be good this year. He’ll be eaten alive by pros that will be able to contain his escaping style, while he won’t be able to regularly hit a target 25 yards away.
The cost for the Raiders to move up and snag the potential JaMarcus2 would be astronomical, with no higher a guarantee for success.
MR advocating for such a move just shows how little he really knows about football, the Team, or the draft. Combined with his pathological need to throw out the stupidest comments just for attention, and it’s a comic feast…only KK and few trolls take him seriously. A tragic comedy it is.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
He never stole a lap top. Anyone who’s actually looked into the details of that story knows it. But of course, Hayez, whenever people of a certain ethnicity are accused of committing a crime, they’re guilty until proven innocent in your mind, right? Your calling him “JaMarcus2″ further proves my point. Raiders have fallen far from their days of being the NFL’s leader in diversity, haven’t they?
Whoever drafts Cam Newton will be Super Bowl champions in 3 years. It could be us. If we make the move to get him. Because Jason Campbell isn’t getting us past the .500 mark.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Ethnicity?? Good try there, hypocrit BS-monger.
What’s ehtnicity got to do with this:
University police went to Newton’s dorm Friday, were invited inside and noticed the laptop on Newton’s desk. Officers left the room to confirm that the computer matched the serial code of the laptop reported stolen, according to the report. When they returned, it was gone.
According to police, the laptop had been painted black on the top and had “Cam Newton” written on the top in white paint. Officers found the computer behind a trash bin outside the dorm and learned that “Mr. Newton threw the computer out of his bedroom window,” the report said.
source: espn
April 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Everybody’s on to you, MR…you’re the simplest troll in here. You should be proud.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
According to police, the laptop had been painted black on the top and had “Cam Newton” written on the top in white paint. Officers found the computer behind a trash bin outside the dorm and learned that “Mr. Newton threw the computer out of his bedroom window,” the report said.
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Rocket scientist, this guy…
April 26th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I read all of the stories pertaining to the incident. One of his friends stole it, he took the rap. You know how police are in the south. Newton might have been a hero to football fans but there’s still a lot of folks down there who love to see someone like him go down.
This is the funniest part of your comment:
“source: espn”
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Well, I’m on to you, Hayez, and why you really don’t like Newton. JaMarcus2, huh? That gave it away.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
AND…
Not only are the Raiders the team that has championed diversity more than any other in the past…the Raiders will never be eclipsed as the most diverse Organization in the League — their lead in that regard is so large.
Throwing out any other claim shows even more just how pathetically you must reach for ANY argument. More impressive stuff.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Man that is scary the Redskins have made some monumental mistakes drafting QB’s. Heath Shuler to begin with and I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful. I think they traded for Joe Theisman or picked him up as a FA after he was a bust somewhere else. I gaurantee you they wish they had kept Campbell, now they’re spending another high draft pick on a QB. If campbell is successful here Shanahan is going to look like a complete idiot especially if he drafts another bust. Teams are desparate for QB’s and they’re reaching like crazy. That’s why I want to get a good young QB now when we don’t need him.
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This is the damn’s post I’ve ever seen on this blog.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I’m aware that the Raiders have championed diversity in the past, but times have clearly changed judging by the comments in here. Add to that Al Davis’s comments to Tim Brown about black athletes from Notre Dame, and you have to wonder if Al Davis’s deeds in the ’60s toward civil rights for black players was nothing more than a ploy to secure black athletes.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
FREE MONEY TONITE!
Borrow every penny you can get your grubby little paws on.
Bet against the Lakers tonight.
They have no heart.
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I’ll laugh if you lose everything you got!!
Sorry Doc!!!!!!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Continue to flail away, MR –
If Kim didn’t steal the laptop, he would’ve finished his college career at Fla. And his father might’ve extorted enough money from someone to buy one.
BTW — If you really wanted to state facts, youd state that I was one of Jamarcus’s ardent supporters, until it became obvious what a train wreck HE chose to be. I don’t have to be loyal to a player not loyal to my Team…even if it pleases little trolls like you to wallow with them.
You bore me.
So…trying to paint me as something every regular reader in here knows I am not is just more hollow BS from you.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
MR was hiding behind that trash bin posting comments on this blog from Cam Newton’s laptop. He handed it over to the police when they arrived and told them “Cam didn’t do it.”
So you’re probably right MR. Maybe he did take the rap for a buddy.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
If he didn’t steal the lap top, he’d have finished his career in Florida? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve ever said. On paper, he did it. He was framed. His future there was over. He just got involved with a bad crowd. That was his mistake. He’s no thief. This kid is the real deal and if the Raiders don’t do everything they can to get him, they’re destined to another 8 years of mediocrity.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Wow, 504. That was about as funny as your Amistad joke. Blatant racism and spreading false rumors…that’s the only way you guys can criticize Newton. The Raider Nation. What a fall from grace. “JaMarcus2″… Pathetic.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Chase that tail, MR.
I’m bored with you.
I’ll go back to enjoying the EXCELLENT pre-draft discussions and analyses by the more intelligent fans in here. At least they’re fans.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Dust372, this doesnt get old for you and KK, 7 days a week 18 hrs a day?
April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
if Newton falls into the 20’s, Al will move up to get him, hell if he moves to the Raiders original #17 position, AL just might make a trade with the Patriots again.
that is really sad and thankful [it's not hodgkins] news for Cannon and his family, I hope and pray the best turns out for him, I still think he gets drafted, but probably in round 4/probably first pick on Sat.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
You’ve been discussing the draft all along, Hayez, just in your own irrational, racist way.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
What is a lap top? Try this “Laptop”
“Lap top” is one word, Genius
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Gust372 Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
He never stole a lap top.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Newton many differences between him and Russell as well as Leaf; hell you could include Marinovich also.
Newton, plays to win, he stays in shape, he treats others with respect, i.e., players with less talent than himself, reporters, he loves and stands up for his parents, he trusts in Almighty God.
Mallett would be more of a sequal to Jamarcus than Cam would be.
Short of a stint in the U.S. Navy, Newton has more in common with Roger Staubauch than he does the above mentioned qbs.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Well said, 59.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
# Gust372 Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Whoever drafts Cam Newton wins the Super Bowl in 3 years. You can take that to the bank. So, why not us? Let’s get him. And start him. Because he would be the best QB on our roster by a long shot. He’s on that Manning level. He starts right away.
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Nope
April 26th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Yep.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Kim Newton will NOT win a Super Bowl in 3 years…NOOOOO WAY….guaranteed!
April 26th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
QB is the most important position on a team. When you see Manning/Brady carry their team to the playoffs every year, you see how significant the position is. Then you look at these past 2-3 drafts and see what rookies like Flacco, Sanchez, Bradford are doing. Even 7th rounders or UFAs like Warner coming into the league -putting their team on their back and carrying to superbowls.
I believe that teams in need of a QB can only hope and to strike gold. You can never really know how a player that will make a load of cash is goin to turn out. I think it’s more more common the modest players are the bread and butter of teams.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
He will. GUAAAAAARANTEED!!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 4:02 am
Morning Gents..
April 27th, 2011 at 4:13 am
Interesting PFT article on how the Cowboys haven’t drafted an O-linemanin the first round since 1981.
But since 1981, they have won 4 titles, had one of the greatest O-lines ever in the early 90’s, and even developed a second round of a really good O-line in middle of this past decade.
All 2nd and 3rd round picks, with a few undrafted FA’s.
That’s how you develop an O-line and a team. Skill position players first in the draft, O-line later.
April 27th, 2011 at 4:42 am
No Vince Young in Oakland…..you really want another disaster at Qb?…
April 27th, 2011 at 5:09 am
Good morning nation….
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/110426_tuesday_morning_quarterback&sportCat=nfl
something the players and owners need to read.
April 27th, 2011 at 5:44 am
That would be a HUGE mistake 7 QB’s in first 45 picks most of these guys are at least 2 years away. I wouldn’t even take Cam Newton #1 overall. He’s just too green and so are most of them, the demand to get a QB is pushing these guys much higher than they ranked. In a normal situation there are only 3 that should go in the first two rounds.
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Agreed with TJ!
April 27th, 2011 at 5:48 am
All of these QBs need work or are projects. Why they are so high on the boards is beyond belief. They don’t stack up talent wise to the Mannings, Bradford, VY, Cutler, not even that bust JR. If any of those guys were in this draft they would make these guys look stupid.
Cam Newton is a late first at best. I agree with Charlie Casserly there. He has him a a late 1st too.
Teams are really reaching this draft. Most of these QBs won’t pan out. Thats the truth. If they do it may only be the 2nd time in history (and I can’t really recall the 1st).
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Terrapin,
if the CEILING for this QB draft class is Cutler, Young & Russell, we might as well just draft DB Buster Skrine at #48 and get it over with!
April 27th, 2011 at 5:51 am
do you see any slam dunk Olineman? the same goes for any player we draft I’m not sure why people think if we draft a Lineman he’s automatically going to be a great player.
I just want a player and I want to get a QB for the future so we don’t have to use a high pick later. But only if it’s the QB Hue wants I’m not for grabbing some guy just to say we did. If there is a stud Olineman they really want I’m all for it. But I don’t want one just to say we got one.
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TJ was on fire last night!
April 27th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Interesting PFT article on how the Cowboys haven’t drafted an O-linemanin the first round since 1981.
But since 1981, they have won 4 titles, had one of the greatest O-lines ever in the early 90’s, and even developed a second round of a really good O-line in middle of this past decade.
All 2nd and 3rd round picks, with a few undrafted FA’s.
That’s how you develop an O-line and a team. Skill position players first in the draft, O-line later.
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JFB,
we don’t have a 1st rounder this draft and 2007-2009 we selected Russell, McFadden, DHB.
2nd & 3rd rounders spent on O-Line this year ???
It would be awesome to get little Wiz at #48 and somebody like Gilbert, Brewer, Rackley or Moffitt in Round 3! but where do they fit?
I see Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Campbell-(RT Barnes or Walker?)
If Cooper Carlisle sticks at RG, BCamp gets the RT job and we don’t need to sign or re-sign any starters for the OL imo
April 27th, 2011 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.ROCKSTAR.NOBODY KNOWS WHAT AL WILL DO.THATS WHY WE WILL ALL BE WATCHING..
April 27th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Rockstar, Dirt Lot, LMN, JFB, Neil…
The regulars are here bright and early this morning! How yo fellas doing?
April 27th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Well, the Cubs lost but Wrigley was very cool. I knew it was small, but it seemed REALLY small
April 27th, 2011 at 6:18 am
76.Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Well, the Cubs lost but Wrigley was very cool. I knew it was small, but it seemed REALLY small
…..Wrigley Field that is….lol
April 27th, 2011 at 6:24 am
76.Dakota Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Well, the Cubs lost but Wrigley was very cool. I knew it was small, but it seemed REALLY small
…..Wrigley Field that is….lol
…and Kobe made Okafor look like…
April 27th, 2011 at 6:31 am
…and Kobe made Okafor look like…
….a white dude….
April 27th, 2011 at 6:34 am
That was highlight reel material for the month! LOL
April 27th, 2011 at 7:11 am
I know what you are saying but in defense of Gruden he did win a Superbowl with Dungy’s team I might add!!! But the bottom line is the guy won a Superbowl.
I would loved it if he would have got that “W” with the Raiders instead of aginst us but you have to give the guy credit for a Superbowl. Sorry but I can’t call that a bad move. P;us, he is making big time cash talking about the game he is passionate about with enough time to be at home. You can’t do that as a head coach. He is in a good pair of shoes.
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5.priesttj Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
People think Gruden is kidding around when he says things like This and that will get you fired. His firing from Tampa really screwed with his head. I’m not sure he wants to coach again unless it’s the right situation. As I’ve said many times he just got a little too big headed and thought his stuff didn’t stink.
Had he been just a bit more patient he could’ve had a real career here. Instead he was demanding all kinds of crap he hadn’t proven that he deserved if he stays and wins a SB he would’ve gotten whatever he wanted within reason. Maybe wee win back to back SB’s but then he would’ve done the same thing. Head too big!!
April 27th, 2011 at 7:14 am
You know RR now that you posted that it is amazing that we are even in the position we were last year after our picks. The $ tied up in Russel, DHB, and our lame free agent picks the last 4-5 years should have killed us!
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73.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Interesting PFT article on how the Cowboys haven’t drafted an O-linemanin the first round since 1981.
But since 1981, they have won 4 titles, had one of the greatest O-lines ever in the early 90’s, and even developed a second round of a really good O-line in middle of this past decade.
All 2nd and 3rd round picks, with a few undrafted FA’s.
That’s how you develop an O-line and a team. Skill position players first in the draft, O-line later.
***
JFB,
we don’t have a 1st rounder this draft and 2007-2009 we selected Russell, McFadden, DHB.
2nd & 3rd rounders spent on O-Line this year ???
It would be awesome to get little Wiz at #48 and somebody like Gilbert, Brewer, Rackley or Moffitt in Round 3! but where do they fit?
I see Veldheer-Loper-Satele-Campbell-(RT Barnes or Walker?)
If Cooper Carlisle sticks at RG, BCamp gets the RT job and we don’t need to sign or re-sign any starters for the OL imo
April 27th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Ryan Mallett for 2011
April 27th, 2011 at 7:22 am
How many of us will be watching tomorrow ? I’m working but even so,I doubt I would watch.Just can’t find any enthusiasm for it.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Raiders stadium name change
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Raiders-stadium-to-be-renamed-Overstockcom-Coliseum.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
April 27th, 2011 at 7:26 am
*****No Chad Johnson for Al Davis***************
I said yesterday that I thought Al would pick up Chad Johnson and reunite him with Hue, but today I say not a chance! Why? Because I really think Al learned his lesson with free agents such as Walker, Hall, Moss and our rookie that everyone loves to hate Russell. I think at one time Al would have jumped all over a guy that use to be “Mr. It” with a bad attitude but not anymore. I think the organization as a whole has started to realize how not drafting character guys or bringing in high character guys hurt this team.
Also, Owens was an available big possession WR, which we needed more desperately last year than this year and Al never pulled the trigger. Not even a visit or a thinking about it, nothing!
Lastly, I think Al likes the young guys developing on the team after a great draft last year. No more locker room cancers for Al. If he does bring in another group of veterans expect for them to be mentoring or team player types of guys like Rock Cartwright, or Richard Seymour.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:29 am
84.neilb Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 7:22 am
How many of us will be watching tomorrow ? I’m working but even so,I doubt I would watch.Just can’t find any enthusiasm for it.
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I am watching it. We may trade up and we will also see who slides and may be availabel. But I must admit, the draft sure is weak this year!
April 27th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Gooooo Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Agreed CJ,whatever Chad brings to the field he takes twice as much away in the locker room.
Besides,if Al had took Calvin Johnson instead of the guy everyone loves to hate……
April 27th, 2011 at 7:35 am
I just don’t know CJ.Maybe it’s the fact that we don’t have a first round pick ( yet! ) or the CBA crap.Just can’t get fired up.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:36 am
I’m definitely watching even if we don’t trade up it will still be fun to watch.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Don’t bring in any retread WR’s. I like the idea of teaching the player’s that there is no “i” in team.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:39 am
What’s the bet we trade up and take a corner?
April 27th, 2011 at 7:44 am
neilb Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 7:39 am
What’s the bet we trade up and take a corner?
Knowing Al’s past, that would be a good bet. However, I think he trades up to take a corner if MR. 21 and Mr. 24 both bolt…
April 27th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Morning Hwnrdr!
I don’t doubt for one minute that Al knows what Nnamdi and Huff are going to do.If we trade up and take a corner they’re both gone.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:54 am
I think Nnamdi wants to stay because he does do a lot of community work here in the Bay, but Huffy has been in Texas a lot this offseason! Although that doesn’t mean anything but him going home!
April 27th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Time for some pasta.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
April 27th, 2011 at 7:56 am
We’ll know soon enough Hwnrdr!
Later Raider!
April 27th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Here is another idiot that everyone said Al Davis should make a trade and go get to help our run defense. Do you recall Mr. Haynesworth “Captain save the day on Sunday?” Look at this dumb @$$ now in the paper.
Everyone always talks about the bad free agent pick ups Al makes but how about the many that Washinsgton makes. One issue after another. The owner rich or not should fire himself!!!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/04/26/haynesworth.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
April 27th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I hope Nnamdi stays! We need the guy and at least he is consistant for the money. Once again look how much they paid Haynesworth and he was pure garbage for Washington.
Write him a check Al let him show out for his mentor Woodson and call it a day. Do you know how intense Nnamdi will be with Woodson coaching him every day?
We should be begging for Nam to come back. SKip the draft and get Nam now!!!!!!!!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 8:09 am
since you brought up hayneswoth. didn’t he get 100 million through 5-6 yrs??? for a defensive tackle!!?? and that was 3 yrs. ago. no way Nnamdi doesn’t deserve 70+ for 5 yrs. pay him al who cared what the pundits say. they would bash you no matter what you do.
raiders trade up only to get jimmy smith, gilchrest, kaepernick, mallett, costanzo, solder, carimi or pouncey it think
April 27th, 2011 at 8:12 am
G’morning fellas.
Did anybody else watch that Bill Parcells draft special on ESPN last night? That was pretty informative. Insight into how an org. runs it’s warroom.
The part I found interesting was when he was talking about drafting a franchise QB and the risk involved.
He said as a GM and an organization you can due all your due diligence, all your homework and scouting and everythng right. But there’s no sure thing.
He said you neverknow what you truly have until he gets on the field and actually faces adversity. When he gets on the field and fails. Gets his nose bloodied and throws three picks in a game. He’s the reason the team lost. The home fans turn on him and boo him off the field. His coaches are lookng at him sideways, and his veteran teammates are watchng him. The media turns on him and grills him in the post game press conferences.
Suddenly the kid who ws the Golden Boy and Big Man ON Campus in college. He was the star in HS and hometown hero starts questioning himself. Maybe even feeling sorry for himself and asking “why is this happening to me”?
Until that QB can walk back onto te practice field and reclaim the huddle and the confidence of the veterans, you just never truly know how it’s going to end up.
It could all go south in a hurry, or you could discover that you have a true franchise QB.
Until you find that out, it’s all just a crapshoot.
I thought it was interesting and informative. Hope some of you guys caught it as well.
April 27th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Didn’t see it, just lived it with JaLoser. He put this organization back 4-5 years. Just shows you how important a Manning or Brady really is. Gannon was our Prime QB & had he not been injured we’d have been a totally different team this last 7 years.
April 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I kept trying to look at Parcell’s “Big Board” in the background to see whre he had players slotted.
He had my boy John Moffitt slotted in the mid-fourth, which is about where he’s projected.
The one I found inteesting was Moffitt’s teammate, OT Gabe Carimi. Parcell’s had him slotted as an early 3rd. Which is what The Sporting News has him graded as well, I believe.
Mayock and Kiper all have him rated a surefire 1st rd pick, maybe even top 20. I don’t understand the discrepency. No way do I see Carimi sliding into the 3rd, IMO. Hell I’d be shocked and thrilled if he was there @48 for Oakland.
April 27th, 2011 at 8:36 am
I want Owen Marecic. Has this been discussed? Obviously not in the 2nd round. But I also dont want the 49ers to grab him, so it might have to be in the 3rd round. That guy is a pure football player. The kind of player you want on your team. Leader!
April 27th, 2011 at 8:46 am
That was a good show with Parcell. Caught some of it at the gym and if you any of you have a link to that show online, please post it. The Tuna was awesome.
April 27th, 2011 at 8:54 am
http://search.espn.go.com/parcells/
just a clip don’t have the full thing but there are other videos that relate.
i was squinting to try and see there casey mathews was on that board but couldn’t see it. remember that board is absolutely not accurate. no way
April 27th, 2011 at 9:08 am
O.co coliseum?
LOL
April 27th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Could see headlines on BSPN saying “Is OCHO heading to Oco?”
April 27th, 2011 at 9:23 am
We should be begging for Nam to come back. SKip the draft and get Nam now!!!!!!!!!!
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Nnamdi hasn’t made a dent in the W/L column since we drafted him
Hard to make a case for paying a guy $17-25 million per year that isn’t a QB imo
Nnamdi deserved $15 per year more than Seymour did. At least #21 is Top 3 in the Nfl at his position!
I just think Nnamdi wants to play for a winner and Al Davis is tired of paying more money than anybody else would for his services, which is probably what his agent is lobbying for
April 27th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Colin Kaepernick is being interviewed by Rick Tittle right now, the kid said in the combine he showed scouts he has by far the sstrongest arm in the draft. I DID NOT know that….
Suffice to say this kid has unlimited potential, the travesty of Russell(by all concerned) can be corrected with one single phrase “with the 48th pick of the second round the Oakland Raiders select quarterback Colin Kaepernick of the university of Nevada”.
April 27th, 2011 at 9:30 am
How do you offer Richard Seymour $15 million per season for a 31st & 29th ranked Run Defense and 9.5 sacks over the past 2 seasons combined?
then turn around and offer your best O-Lineman with the 2nd best rushing attack in the league only $2.5 million or walk the plank?
Seems like we’re paying for his name moreso than his contributions to the team. Who cares what he did in New England? Does riding the bus with rookies make a guy deserving of a highest paid Defense player in the NFL contract at 31 years old?
I know “it’s not my money” but it’s also piss poor management & player negotiations
Gallery & Carlisle were a heck of a lot better than Loper & Campbell are going to be at Guard. That’s probably the #1 reason I want lil Wiz drafted if 7 QB’s are off th board when we’re on the clock at #48
April 27th, 2011 at 9:30 am
priest
on board with you for sure. i’m convinced that when the raiders had him in the building they were blown away by his smarts ability. for sure hue wants his guy and al would love to correct the jr mistake. campbell is a perfect mentor. go get him al if that’s your guy. plenty of OL in this draft. our starting LT was a 3rd rounder from last year. we have bruce and loper at G. free agency is around for a reason and we can beef up line with vets if need be. ultimately you don’t want to pass up a qb you like and see him win with another team. i think that’s the pick tomorrow
April 27th, 2011 at 9:31 am
smarts *and* ability
April 27th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Which QB of the Top 10 projected has the best accuracy, fewest turnovers & most starting experience?
GIVE ME THAT GUY !!!
attitude & TD’s can be adjusted. even winning ballgames
I don’t care about a QB’s height, arm strength or 40 time. Don’t care what school he played for either
April 27th, 2011 at 9:41 am
TJ and Jonny,
I agree. It could be an ideal situaion. Let Colin K sit behind JC next year. He does have an impressive arm for sure. There was a play in that game vs Mizzou where he zipped a pass about 35 yds downfield, and it looked effortless.
They talk about a hitch in his motion, but he semed to zip the ball on a rope with the flick of the wrist. Plus, with his big arm and impressive mobility he could be lethal on play-action bootlegs and rollouts.
He’s going to need to sit and learn, though. He’s going to be a bit of a project because he didn’t seem to take a single snap from under center…everything from the pistol. Probably have to redo his footwork.
Sounds like a good, smart, hard working kid, too. I hope he’s still there and there isn’t that run on QB’s early in rd 2 that many are predicting.
April 27th, 2011 at 9:42 am
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Oakland Raiders draft shopping list
By Steve Corkran
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 04/25/2011 06:59:22 PM PDT
Updated: 04/25/2011 10:31:40 PM PDT
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Transcript: Oakland Raiders draft preview chat, Tuesday, April 26 at noonNFL draft: Previously at No. 48Oakland Raiders: Will they move up to first round in the draft?Tony La Russa’s daughter is an Oakland RaideretteRaiders shopping list
1. Cornerback
The reason: Three-time Pro Bowler Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t expected back for a ninth season because of his steep asking price.
The prospects: Ras-I Dowling, Virginia; Jimmy Smith, Colorado; Brandon Harris, Miami; Davon House, New Mexico State; Buster Skrine, Tennessee-Chattanooga.
2. Quarterback
The reason: Starter Jason Campbell and backup Kyle Boller turn 30 this season and aren’t under contract beyond 2011.
The prospects: Jake Locker, Washington; Colin Kaepernick, Nevada; Christian Ponder, Florida State; Andy Dalton, Texas Christian; Ryan Mallett, Arkansas.
3. Offensive tackle
The reason: Langston Walker, Mario Henderson and Khalif Barnes are free agents, and none is a certainty to be re-signed.
The prospects: Nate Solder, Colorado; Benjamin Ijalana, Villanova; James Carpenter, Alabama; Marcus Gilbert, Florida.
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Corkran has the Raider draft priorities wrong IMO. O-Line should #1 on the list and CB should be #3!
April 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Buckeyeraider
got a link of that play so others can see what we see?
if hue jackson can make a playoff contender out of flacco, imagine what he could do with kaepernick’s abilities. if campbell lights it up, awesome. just more time for kappy to learn. qb first league, no question.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:04 am
IrJonny,
I’m sure there are probably highlights on youtube somebody could post a link to. I saw it on ESPNU the other night.
They have been replaying a series of college games the last couple of weeks showcasing upcoming draft prospects.
The other night they showed Nevada vs Mizzou from 2009. It was mostly the Blaine Gabbert show. He did look impressive, but Nevada D didn’t offer much resistance. Moch was disapointing.
Kaepernick defenitely flashed some potential, including the play I mentioned.
I also watched a replay of the Rose Bowl from last year Andy Dalton and TCU vs Wisconsin. I was really impressed with OG/C John Moffitt. I wanna see that guy in Silver & Black also.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:32 am
1. Cornerback
The reason: Three-time Pro Bowler Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t expected back for a ninth season because of his steep asking price.
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Really? as opposed to the 10 million Stanford Routt got?
April 27th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I ACTUALLY GOT A QUESTION ANSWERED ON A CHAT WITH LOMBARDI ON NFL.COM!!!! 1ST TIME. HERE IT IS:
jonny, chico ca
1:28 PM ET
hey michael it’s my b-day today!!!! how bout helping out a raider fan since they don’t have a 1st this year talk of their draft is scarce. should the raiders pick kaepernick??? is it possible he falls to 48? seems like an ideal situation with campbell there.
Michael Lombardi, NFL Network
Hey Jonny, I think the Raiders are drafting an offensive linemen in the second round… so be prepared for that, not a quarterback.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:36 am
welcome to the Overstock.com stadium
April 27th, 2011 at 10:36 am
btw its not my bday lol
April 27th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Broncos DE Hunter hospitalized after stabbing
Broncos DE/OLB Jason Hunter was reportedly taken to a Detroit hospital after being stabbed in the left shoulder Tuesday night.
Sources tell WXYZ in Detroit that Hunter was stabbed by his 23-year-old girlfriend, reminiscent of the Brandon Marshall incident with his wife last weekend. Hunter’s girlfriend has been taken into custody, though he reportedly does not want to pursue felonious assault charges. There’s no word on the severity of his condition.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Once Mallett becomes QB everything will go uphill from now on, thats right he’s taking us to the superbowl.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Jonny, good to know…O-line it is!!
1. Wiz
2. Ijalana
3. Carpenter
April 27th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Why so many of you guys are so excited about taking a QB in the second round is beyond me. Just so we can say we took one? After the 1st round, it doesn’t matter which QB you take. We should just take whoever’s left with our last pick.
April 27th, 2011 at 10:57 am
saw an interesting tidbit. could the raiders trade down for a later 2nd and a 3rd/4th? would be nice because wiz, ijalana should be there later
post #121 for lombardi’s take on the pick
April 27th, 2011 at 11:01 am
I am so sick of todays athlete big cry babies makes me SICK!!!
have you seen this from Chad Johnson…Please Please Al Davis so let this prmia-donna turn on our team.
“I love Cincy,but coach Lewis is mean to me now so I think I am gone,” Ochocinco tweeted. “He has gone over board to publicly chastize the one guy who loves him i’m so hurt. . . . y’all ever lost somebody you felt was close to u but they flip on you without giving u the script.Marvin Lewis hurt my feelings.”
Could you imagine Dick Butkis or Lyle Alzado crying like this?
Where is your pride Chad?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Please Please Al Davis so let this prmia-donna turn on our team.
I meant
DO NOT LET THIS TURD ON OUR TEAM!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:04 am
welcome to the Overstock.com stadium
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“Well fans, [Al Davis] has done a little redecorating around the ballpark. The outfield walls now look like the yellow pages. And any of you folks having trouble finding a good proctologist, might want to come down here and check out the area around the 375 foot sign.”
April 27th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Rotoworlds 2nd RD. Mock Draft
48. Raiders: Rodney Hudson, center, Florida State.
Al Davis will love Hudson’s athleticism and decorated college career.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:12 am
RR You are my dude but come on now. Money no one else
in the league will pay for him? Are you serious? Did you see how much corners are making these days? I hate the fact he does not get a interception each game and he may not come up and knock anyone out but you can’t argue when he is out on the field he takes half the field away from the opponent.
Also look at what the Raiders ask a DB to do an entire game? They have to play man to man pretty much from sun up to sun down. No zone stuff. They are on an island. What othe DB can come in and play better than Nnamdi right now?
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110.RaiderRockstar Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 9:23 am
We should be begging for Nam to come back. SKip the draft and get Nam now!!!!!!!!!!
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Nnamdi hasn’t made a dent in the W/L column since we drafted him
Hard to make a case for paying a guy $17-25 million per year that isn’t a QB imo
Nnamdi deserved $15 per year more than Seymour did. At least #21 is Top 3 in the Nfl at his position!
I just think Nnamdi wants to play for a winner and Al Davis is tired of paying more money than anybody else would for his services, which is probably what his agent is lobbying for
April 27th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Overstock Stadium half empty. Lol.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:15 am
I will go one more!
Nnamdi is the best player on the team for his position bar none! Seymour is a close second.
I mean we break the bank on a bunch of nobodys then when a guy masters his position and makes the big bucks we cut him?
We gave a half @$$ player like Routt 10 mill to get burned! One decent year not great year and 10 mill. What???
April 27th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Seymour is worth the money. Figure a 1st rounder would get that much and it’s a crapshoot whether he turns out to be a stud. Gallery has been a good but not spectacular player who is injury prone with a bad back. IMHO
April 27th, 2011 at 11:18 am
129. SB – I saw it! That is why I wrote this earlier…..
86.CJ Legend 34 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 7:26 am
*****No Chad Johnson for Al Davis***************
I said yesterday that I thought Al would pick up Chad Johnson and reunite him with Hue, but today I say not a chance! Why? Because I really think Al learned his lesson with free agents such as Walker, Hall, Moss and our rookie that everyone loves to hate Russell. I think at one time Al would have jumped all over a guy that use to be “Mr. It” with a bad attitude but not anymore. I think the organization as a whole has started to realize how not drafting character guys or bringing in high character guys hurt this team.
Also, Owens was an available big possession WR, which we needed more desperately last year than this year and Al never pulled the trigger. Not even a visit or a thinking about it, nothing!
Lastly, I think Al likes the young guys developing on the team after a great draft last year. No more locker room cancers for Al. If he does bring in another group of veterans expect for them to be mentoring or team player types of guys like Rock Cartwright, or Richard Seymour.
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129.Silverandblack666 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:01 am
I am so sick of todays athlete big cry babies makes me SICK!!!
have you seen this from Chad Johnson…Please Please Al Davis so let this prmia-donna turn on our team.
“I love Cincy,but coach Lewis is mean to me now so I think I am gone,” Ochocinco tweeted. “He has gone over board to publicly chastize the one guy who loves him i’m so hurt. . . . y’all ever lost somebody you felt was close to u but they flip on you without giving u the script.Marvin Lewis hurt my feelings.”
Could you imagine Dick Butkis or Lyle Alzado crying like this?
Where is your pride Chad?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Can you hear the commercials? Get your Raider Tickets for pennies on the dollar at Overstock.com
April 27th, 2011 at 11:21 am
136.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Seymour is worth the money. Figure a 1st rounder would get that much and it’s a crapshoot whether he turns out to be a stud. Gallery has been a good but not spectacular player who is injury prone with a bad back. IMHO
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I agree! They talk to the Drs they know when a player is about to go down hill. Gallery has been decent but not great. I think if he would have lived up to his draft money they had to pay earlier in his career they would have given him more. Gallery made a lot of money up front when he was not that good at all. Out of position or not he was not helping the team.
Al made him rich it was his time to go.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:24 am
@CJ Legend 34
Are you a little dissappointed at times that Aso does not cover the best receiver, but covers the receiver that is put on his side?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:25 am
@CJ
No Chad Johnson, ok. How about Steve Smith?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Priest,
To address your point from last night… there aren’t many slam-dunks, ever, in the NFL Draft. I see your point about QB vs. O-line in round 2, and I respect that. Trust me, if we take a QB there I’ll be on board.
My point is, that QB of all positions is a hit-or-miss proposition. You can take a lineman early and unless you totally blow it the guy’s probably going to start for you and be at least pretty good for awhile. We need help on the o-line, obviously. I guess I’m a little more sketchy about the QBs in this draft than you are, and think that it’s a whole lot less risky to take an o-lineman early in this draft than it is a QB.
If we take a QB early I will hope like heck that I’m wrong about that.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am
imo we have DHB/Schilens, Murphy/Ford, all our guys are young and the raiders want them to start and succeed. steve smith would be expected to start all year. not what the raiders want. santana moss is older, can mentor, can come in when needed, knows campbell, won’t whine, and will be cheap. i think that’s our guy at wr in free agency. DHBs third year is not the year you give up on him as an owner, he will start
April 27th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Debo what would you do to get Russell back on this team? In good standing!! Kap is a work in progress and doesn’t quite have the skill set but he aint far behind. Talent wise their almost equals Russell was just a bit more skilled but Kap is faster a better leader and just as competitive when the game is on the line. This kid is a fiery competitor and can match Russell throw for throw in arm strength.
If you told me I could get a fired up ready to work JaMarcus Russell I’d take him over probably 80% of the starting QB’s in this league. Well this kid Kappy in 2 years could be at that level IMO. I’ll give up any Olineman in this or any other draft for a top 5 QB in the NFL.
There isn’t an Olineman in this draft better at his position than Kappy is at his, not one.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:31 am
I do respect Gallery. He restructed his contract twice to free up cap space. Just has an inflated sense of worth.
Seymour gives the D line a player that needs to be dbl teamed. Also someone to give Big Ben a smack.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Oh my GAAAAAAAWD!!!
Is there a Raider O line EMERGENCY?
It can’t be this bad right?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
April 27th, 2011 at 11:39 am
ET I understand why you and most people want the Oline pick trust me I get it…….I want the Oline fixed too, more than anyone. But you don’t get many chances to draft a special talent at that position in the second round. I wish the word wasn’t out on Kappy as much as it is but, it is what it is. I also like Locker if he falls I’ll take him in a heartbeat. But the Oline in this draft is WEAK!!
Most of you love Wiz kid but IMO he is a 3rd or 4th rndr he just has name recognition. If he were as good ass his uncle OK, but he aint. I would much prefer to get this young QB in the stable and not have to wory about it anymore and then proceed to biult the rest of the team with the comfort of having the QB position secure for the future.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Priest,
I agree about young Wiz. I don’t think he’s the guy for us.
You’re high on the two QBs and if we take one of them I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
We’ll know pretty soon!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@priesttj
Depending on what…
Would you advocate to trade some of next year’s picks to move up/or get additional picks this year to draft Kappy?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:45 am
120.KoolKell Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 10:32 am
1. Cornerback
The reason: Three-time Pro Bowler Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t expected back for a ninth season because of his steep asking price.
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Really? as opposed to the 10 million Stanford Routt got?
^^^^^^^
Exactly…weird isn’t it?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The Top 47 picks will be:
CB Patrick Peterson
LB Von Miller
DT Marcell Dareus
WR A.J. Green
DE Robert Quinn
CB Prince Amukamara
DT Nick Fairley
WR Julio Jones
QB Blaine Gabbert
OT Tyron Smith
QB Cam Newton
DE Cameron Jordan
RB Mark Ingram
DE J.J. Watt
DE Ryan Kerrigan
OT Anthony Castonzo
DE Da’Quan Bowers
DT Corey Liuget
DE Aldon Smith
OG Mike Pouncey
OT Gabe Carimi
DE Adrian Clayborn
OT Nate Solder
QB Jake Locker
OT Derek Sherrod
DE Cameron Heyward
LB Akeem Ayers
DT Phil Taylor
DT Muhammad Wilkerson
CB Jimmy Smith
OG Danny Watkins
CB Aaron Williams
TE Kyle Rudolph
CB Brandon Harris
RB Mikel LeShoure
WR Torrey Smith
DT Marvin Austin
OT James Carpenter
LB Brooks Reed
CB Ras-I Dowling
LB Martez Wilson
DE Jabaal Sheard
RB Ryan Williams
WR Jon Baldwin
DT Stephen Paea
WR Randall Cobb
LB Bruce Carter
not in any particular order …
at this point the Raiders can choose from Ponder, Mallett, Dalton, Kaepernick at QB or Hudson, Ijalana, Franklin, Wisniewski on the O-Line
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Priesttj
Debo is a mindless dolt that cant comprehend a simple overhead projector joke. I gave up on that tard a few posts a go.
Now back to the O-Line debate. My thought is that you want your first pick to be able to contribute right away and since we do not have a 1st round pick I think our second round pick has to be treated as a first rounder and be someone that can contribute right away.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I think Al is gonna move up to 25 if Locker is still there. If he were gonna move up far enough to take Kim? It would be for Patrick Peterson.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:49 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@priesttj
Depending on what…
Would you advocate to trade some of next year’s picks to move up/or get additional picks this year to draft Kappy?
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I would. He could be a good fit in Raiderland I feel…
April 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Raider E Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I think Al is gonna move up to 25 if Locker is still there. If he were gonna move up far enough to take Kim? It would be for Patrick Peterson.
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Campbel is stil a question mark career wise. Razzone calls Locker the next Brett Favre and claims it was Locker supporting cast that made him look “inaccurate”.
Wow…
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Jakr Locker is gonna be the best QB to come out this draft.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:53 am
DB’s Moore, House, Chekwa, Gilchrist & Brown would all be available … as would WR’s Young, Jernigan, Gates & Hankerson
April 27th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I live in Spokane WA. and watch all Huskie games by default. Locker had absolutely nothing great to compliment him at UW. He had a couple decent players and thats it.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Is the OAC going to be called the big “O” or will it still be the black hole?
April 27th, 2011 at 11:55 am
UW just had a winless season a couple years back if that tells you anything.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
We have several needs, and could use a few more picks IMO. A possibility could be a trade down with the Pats, trading our # 48 for their # 60 and # 92.
This woulod leave us to pursue an extra potential starter, as this draft doesnt seem very topheavvy, but pretty deep. In this case I wouldn’t mind seeing a draft like this:
Rd. 2 : # 60, Orlando Franklin, OT/G
- he projects as a great starting G who fits our system. He has been a little under the radar, but is a great player with a mean streak! Potentially this could be Ijalana, Rackley, Boling or Wiz who imo is better fit for the Zone scheme.
Rd. 3a : # 81, Davon House, CB, / Curtis Brown, CB
Both are great CB’s who have shown they can play Man as we need, but most likely only one will be available. If both should be of the board Gilchrist, CB/FS, or DeAndre McDaniels S, could be potential picks.
Rd. 3b : # 92, Bruce Davis, OLB
He is a great talent and have had a speedy recovery from his torn ACL, will be a dominant WILL during the season, or at least for the future. He may not be available, but then Foster, OLB, KJ Wright, OLB, or Casey Matthews, LB, might be.
Rd. 4 : # 113, Jordan Cameron, TE
He is a great recieving TE, and his size and measerables make him a great fit for Hue’s system. We need a recieving threat next to Miller, and especially in two TE sets which Hue loves to run. His blocking can be coached up, but he seems to be a diamond in the rough. Virgil Green and Rob Housler could be other TEs of interest.
Rd. 5 : # 148,Marcus Cannon, OT
Marcus Cannon is a great talent and could be a really good value here. He will fall drastically due to his cancer, as treatment will cause him to have extreme weightloss and render him unable to practice for up to 24 weeks. Also, doctors couldn’t guarantee that he would be able to play football again, although the speculations say he will. Regardless he will have to sit out the entire first season, but if he recovers he will be a future starter. Repeat story from that of Michael Bush who broke his leg and has proven to be a great #4 rd pick! IMO we would have to pick him here as he will not fall to us in the 6th, and he has great value – plus he fits the scheme. He could be gone however, in which case I would prefer DeMarcus Love, OT/G, Chris Hairston, OT, or Chris Culliver, CB/FS.
Rd. 6 : # 181, Owen Marecic, FB
He is a punishing blocker who has played both ways as ILB and FB. He has a mean streak and could complement Reece greatly, as well as help wear down the defense. He could be gone this late however, especially as Harbaugh could be interested in bringing his own player with him. If he’s not available, Deunta Williams, FS, or Terrance Toliver (6′4″), WR, could be potential picks.
Rd. 7a : # 219, David Mims, OT
This man is HUGE in every sense of the word! 6′8″, 335 Lbs and arms of 36+ inches. He could be gone, could even go a couple of rds before, but most see him as a 7th rder, and if he is available, he will be a great pick! He has potential to be a great Mauler, but he is from Division 2 and needs to adjust to especially speed rushers, but he could potentially move to G and add depth as a Mauler right away! If he is not available Byron Bell, OT, could be the choice. He is a large Mauler as well.
Rd. 7b : # 241, Joe Lefeged, FS
He’s fast as a Raider and he has a knack for Big Plays with many Int’s to show for it. He could be molded and compete straight away. If he should be taken, Mana Silva, FS, or Chris Prosinski, FS, should be there.
Now, many feel we need a QB for the future, and I am inclined to agree. But as I see to many needs, especially a supporting cast, I wouldnt use our 2nd rd or trade up to get one who isn’t ready to start out the gate! Instead I would trade for Jimmy Clausen (with a player or 2012 draft picks), as reports have the Panthers shopping him cheaply after they draft their franchise QB! He has immense potential, and could very well become a great QB after a year on the bench without the pressure he had last season. If he don’t pan out, and JC doesn’t do it, we can get another one next year when the QB group is better!
Also, I’m not to much against our WR group, as I feel they have great potential! But we could use a legit #1 to assist Ford, Murphy, Hey-Bey and Schilens. We could try to get one in FA, but another option is Michael Floyd who almost certainly will go through the supplemental draft due to his suspension, and he is imo as good as any WR in this draft class! He should be available for us to grab with a #2 in 2012, and that would be great value!
This would leave us with:
Orlando Franklin, OT/G
Davon House, CB
Bruce Davis, OLB
Jordan Cameron, TE
Marcus Cannon, OT/G
Owen Marecic, FB
David Mims, OT/G
Joe LeFeged, FS
… through the draft, and
Jimmy Clausen, QB
Michael Floyd, WR
… through trade and supplemental draft..
IMO that would be really solid, several instant starters or valuable backups, and two injured players who could gain a starter role after full recovery.
Then FA could supply a couple of players to add veteran leadership and proven quality! Wouldn’t mind seeing this happen..
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Maybe they can call it the GUST “0″.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Raider E Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Jakr Locker is gonna be the best QB to come out this draft.
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Nah, he’s a headcase. The best he can hope to be is Jake Cutler. He can’t lead an NFL team. Don’t want him.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Sorry for the long post, just started typing and this was the result.. Too excited for the draft i guess..
April 27th, 2011 at 11:57 am
imo you don’t wait to get a qb when you are 1-15 and have the 1st overall. you get one when you have a decent supporting cast and are competative. that’s what these high profile qbs are used to in college. now is the perfect time to take a qb i think. when he steps in he will be better protected and have more weapons to get comfortable with.
kappy, locker or mallett if we go qb early. if not trade down for more picks
April 27th, 2011 at 11:58 am
for al davis to continue on as raiders owner i think we need too see his birth certificate!
April 27th, 2011 at 11:59 am
This seems to be a deep draft for RB’s. I wonder if we stockpile some in the later rounds since there wont be any chance to get them immediately following the draft because of no free agency.
April 27th, 2011 at 11:59 am
chat starting in a minute. see you guys
April 27th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
at this point the Raiders can choose from Ponder, Mallett, Dalton, Kaepernick at QB or Hudson, Ijalana, Franklin, Wisniewski on the O-Line
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Arizona, Washington, Minnesota, Tennessee and Buffalo all pick twice before we get our first pick at 48. And those are just the obvious ones.
I don’t see all four of those QBs on the board when it’s our turn.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Raider E Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Jakr Locker is gonna be the best QB to come out this draft.
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Nah, he’s a headcase. The best he can hope to be is Jake Cutler. He can’t lead an NFL team. Don’t want him.
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Why you say headcase? Cause he stayed in school? Dude is gonna be good, if not great. Print that.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Draft History – Number of QB’s taken in the Top 50 picks
2010: 3
2009: 4
2008: 2
2007: 5
2006: 4
2005: 3
2004: 4
2003: 4
2002: 3
2001: 2
2000: 1
1999: 6
1998: 2
1997: 2
1996: 1
1995: 3
1994: 2
1993: 2
1992: 4
1991: 4
1990: 2
is this the best QB draft class in the past 20+ years?
the answer is NO!
Ponder, Mallett, Dalton & Kaepernick could all be available imo
one thing is for sure. 7 QB’s won’t be selected before Oakland is on the clock at #48
April 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
You’re mising an important ingredient in your argument, Rockstar; the number of teams that are actively looking for a quarterback. There will be overdrafting at the quarterback position in the next few days.
Will all 7 be taken before we pick? Maybe not, but if you add Cincy to the list I gave above, there are six teams that need one, and they all pick twice before we pick once.
Just doing the math.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Draft History – Number of QB’s taken in the Top 50 picks
(Cont …)
1989: 2
1988: 0
1987: 4
1986: 3
1985: 1
1984: 1
1983: 6
1982: 4
1981: 2
1980: 2
April 27th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
ET: we don’t know what other teams owners, GM’s & Head Coaches think they need. We don’t even know what the heck Davis & Jackson have up their sleeves!
Even if a team does “need” a QB, who says they don’t have other, more pressing needs? Or may go with BPA instead of a QB just for the sake of getting one?
Other teams might think that Oakland needs a QB with Campbell & Boller under center, but that doesn’t mean we are or are not drafting one, you see?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
What’s good Nation?! Long time no holla fellas! I’m pretty sure I haven’t posted on here since posting about my fellow Louisvillian Bush catching that DUI. Next thing I know, my Cardinals took a bad L in the first round of this year’s NCAA tournament to Morehead St of all teams. Been in a sports funk ever since..haha, glad to see football is getting back in the swing of things. Haven’t been on my ish as I usually am. Any chance we get that CB from Florida in the supplemental draft like I’m hearing?
April 27th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I see, but I’m not so attached to my argument to ignore the fact that those six teams actually do have a big need for a quarterback and are in a good position to get one, and barring trades, will have two chances to do so before we pick.
I don’t claim to know what owners and GMs are thinking. I do, however, claim to know that the teams I mentioned earlier don’t have very good quarterback situations and will have the opportunity to correct that.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
April 27th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Draft this weekend….I finally am excited now that these punk ass owners got their ass handed to them by the BZ judge…….I’m sure Al has something up his sleeve maybe not in first round but something is brewing
April 27th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Oh yeah and CJ Legend 34…..you my boy and I dig your posts but I’d love to have Chad Johnson in Oakland as our vet WR. Chaz is made of glass and I’ve given up on him. Ford is a tough little guy but not a number 1. Murphy is up and down but still can be a productive player. DHB sucks until further notice and should be a 4th WR until he shows otherwise. Chad can catch and run routes and would bring some added juice to Alameda. We all know Hue loves the guy and he can mentor these youngsters on how to get open for real
April 27th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Chad can teach a lot of things, too much of it is bad. if he were ready to take on a role like mentoring young players I’d love to have the guy. But IMO Chad is out for Chad………….period
April 27th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Chad OchoCinco will NOT be a Bengal in 2011. Write it down, etch it in stone if you want. I would bet a months pay on it. They only picked up his option in order to try to get a trade for him (they would probably take a 3rd). He will be a camp casualty if he makes it that far. I am on record for bringing him in.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Yeah right bring in a guy who gets his feelings hurt by the coach. Ocho is a vag write it down!
He is lucky he never played for Bill Parcells or in the Dick Butkus era, crying about how Marvin Lewis hurt his feelings what a sissy, he belongs in womens basketball not the NFL
NO OCHO!!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
# priesttj Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Chad can teach a lot of things, too much of it is bad. if he were ready to take on a role like mentoring young players I’d love to have the guy. But IMO Chad is out for Chad………….period
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BHP he would more than embrace that chance in a different city. Sometimes people need a change of venue. I’m sure a few Raiders who blog on here will agree with that. Chad isnt out for Chad but he is a clown at times. Oh well though. These youngins will still be inconsistent next year without a true vet around. DHB is garb right now and Murphy is an above average guy. I like little man Ford but he isnt a possession WR
April 27th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
161.Harder2000 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
We have several needs, and could use a few more picks IMO. A possibility could be a trade down with the Pats, trading our # 48 for their # 60 and # 92.
This woulod leave us to pursue an extra potential starter, as this draft doesnt seem very topheavvy, but pretty deep. In this case I wouldn’t mind seeing a draft like this:
Rd. 2 : # 60, Orlando Franklin, OT/G
- he projects as a great starting G who fits our system. He has been a little under the radar, but is a great player with a mean streak! Potentially this could be Ijalana, Rackley, Boling or Wiz who imo is better fit for the Zone scheme.
Rd. 3a : # 81, Davon House, CB, / Curtis Brown, CB
Both are great CB’s who have shown they can play Man as we need, but most likely only one will be available. If both should be of the board Gilchrist, CB/FS, or DeAndre McDaniels S, could be potential picks.
Rd. 3b : # 92, Bruce Davis, OLB
He is a great talent and have had a speedy recovery from his torn ACL, will be a dominant WILL during the season, or at least for the future. He may not be available, but then Foster, OLB, KJ Wright, OLB, or Casey Matthews, LB, might be.
Rd. 4 : # 113, Jordan Cameron, TE
He is a great recieving TE, and his size and measerables make him a great fit for Hue’s system. We need a recieving threat next to Miller, and especially in two TE sets which Hue loves to run. His blocking can be coached up, but he seems to be a diamond in the rough. Virgil Green and Rob Housler could be other TEs of interest.
Rd. 5 : # 148,Marcus Cannon, OT
Marcus Cannon is a great talent and could be a really good value here. He will fall drastically due to his cancer, as treatment will cause him to have extreme weightloss and render him unable to practice for up to 24 weeks. Also, doctors couldn’t guarantee that he would be able to play football again, although the speculations say he will. Regardless he will have to sit out the entire first season, but if he recovers he will be a future starter. Repeat story from that of Michael Bush who broke his leg and has proven to be a great #4 rd pick! IMO we would have to pick him here as he will not fall to us in the 6th, and he has great value – plus he fits the scheme. He could be gone however, in which case I would prefer DeMarcus Love, OT/G, Chris Hairston, OT, or Chris Culliver, CB/FS.
Rd. 6 : # 181, Owen Marecic, FB
He is a punishing blocker who has played both ways as ILB and FB. He has a mean streak and could complement Reece greatly, as well as help wear down the defense. He could be gone this late however, especially as Harbaugh could be interested in bringing his own player with him. If he’s not available, Deunta Williams, FS, or Terrance Toliver (6′4″), WR, could be potential picks.
Rd. 7a : # 219, David Mims, OT
This man is HUGE in every sense of the word! 6′8″, 335 Lbs and arms of 36+ inches. He could be gone, could even go a couple of rds before, but most see him as a 7th rder, and if he is available, he will be a great pick! He has potential to be a great Mauler, but he is from Division 2 and needs to adjust to especially speed rushers, but he could potentially move to G and add depth as a Mauler right away! If he is not available Byron Bell, OT, could be the choice. He is a large Mauler as well.
Rd. 7b : # 241, Joe Lefeged, FS
He’s fast as a Raider and he has a knack for Big Plays with many Int’s to show for it. He could be molded and compete straight away. If he should be taken, Mana Silva, FS, or Chris Prosinski, FS, should be there.
Now, many feel we need a QB for the future, and I am inclined to agree. But as I see to many needs, especially a supporting cast, I wouldnt use our 2nd rd or trade up to get one who isn’t ready to start out the gate! Instead I would trade for Jimmy Clausen (with a player or 2012 draft picks), as reports have the Panthers shopping him cheaply after they draft their franchise QB! He has immense potential, and could very well become a great QB after a year on the bench without the pressure he had last season. If he don’t pan out, and JC doesn’t do it, we can get another one next year when the QB group is better!
Also, I’m not to much against our WR group, as I feel they have great potential! But we could use a legit #1 to assist Ford, Murphy, Hey-Bey and Schilens. We could try to get one in FA, but another option is Michael Floyd who almost certainly will go through the supplemental draft due to his suspension, and he is imo as good as any WR in this draft class! He should be available for us to grab with a #2 in 2012, and that would be great value!
This would leave us with:
Orlando Franklin, OT/G
Davon House, CB
Bruce Davis, OLB
Jordan Cameron, TE
Marcus Cannon, OT/G
Owen Marecic, FB
David Mims, OT/G
Joe LeFeged, FS
… through the draft, and
Jimmy Clausen, QB
Michael Floyd, WR
… through trade and supplemental draft..
IMO that would be really solid, several instant starters or valuable backups, and two injured players who could gain a starter role after full recovery.
Then FA could supply a couple of players to add veteran leadership and proven quality! Wouldn’t mind seeing this happen..
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I would have no problem seeing a Raider draft turn out something like this. TRADING DOWN from #48 would definitely be nice, just as long as it is not too far down and they get an extra 3rd or 4th Rounder in the process.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
# bcz24 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Chad OchoCinco will NOT be a Bengal in 2011. Write it down, etch it in stone if you want. I would bet a months pay on it. They only picked up his option in order to try to get a trade for him (they would probably take a 3rd). He will be a camp casualty if he makes it that far. I am on record for bringing him in.
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You gotta be on board for that move. We need a vet WR and dont let last year fool you. TO saw single coverage because of Chad. Imagine what our skills players can do if they had a WR get doubled constantly….come on fellas
April 27th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Yeah right bring in a guy who gets his feelings hurt by the coach. Ocho is a vag write it down!
He is lucky he never played for Bill Parcells or in the Dick Butkus era, crying about how Marvin Lewis hurt his feelings what a sissy, he belongs in womens basketball not the NFL
NO OCHO!!!!
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Well he at one time was real close to Marvin Lewis. Some ofthese cats grew up with no Dad around so take that into account. Sissy? No way. Chad takes shot and doesnt ever punk out on the field. He is levels above any WR we have on this roster or have been on this team in years…FACT
April 27th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Al’s bucket list:
1) Dump Campbell.
2)Draft Cam.
3) Keep Nnamdi, and every other good player, and I mean PROVEN GOOD, not just priest ‘i’ve seen the kid work out’ good. Pay them what you have to.
4) Retire. And don’t ever be seen again.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
I would like to see OCHO in SnB
April 27th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
“He is levels above any WR we have on this roster or have been on this team in years…FACT”
maybe 5 years ago but now he is a VAG….FACT
April 27th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Maybe if you were a 21 year old kid coming out of college and you have parental issues and you need guidance I could understand but a 30 year old man that has made millions of dollars to still have daddy issues is Pathetic and weak and I say a vag!
April 27th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Fix the O line please.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
30’s the new 20!
April 27th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
there will not be a high profile WR signing before the season imo. santana moss is the only one that makes sense to be pluggable but mostly to mentor and be a vet presence. we still have a 1st rounder starting. not gonna change unless there is someone without a team and we are making a playoff push and dhb or someone isn’t working. much like the ravens did with housh.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Gust372 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
30’s the new 20!
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Oh no! Is the blog broken again?
April 27th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I don’t claim to know what owners and GMs are thinking. I do, however, claim to know that the teams I mentioned earlier don’t have very good quarterback situations and will have the opportunity to correct that.
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ET,
I think the Raiders may have a shot at Ponder, Mallett or Dalton in Round 2
They may have a shot at Kaepernick, Stanzi or Taylor in Round 3, too.
Doesn’t mean Al Davis will draft the guy!
There won’t be more than 5 QB’s drafted in the Top 50 picks. Print That. Fax it to Raiders HQ
April 27th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
would be exstatic should the raiders get Kaepernick at #81, no way in hell he lasts that long.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Owners will be able to hold out even longer, players will just start getting bumped off by their loved ones, their peers, their friends; another NFL player just got stabbed, Hunter of the Broncos.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I see 9 OL & 6 CB’s off the board when Oakland is on the clock …
3 or 4 QB’s
4 or 5 WR’s
what to do ???
April 27th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
would be exstatic should the raiders get Kaepernick at #81, no way in hell he lasts that long.
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Retribution,
did anybody see Brady Quinn or Jimmy Clausen dropping as far as they did?
… and those guys were 2nd or 3rd best QB’s going into the draft, not 6th or 7th best!
April 27th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I see Wisniewski falling right into our laps at #48.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
wis can be had later i think. if wis is out our guy then trade back
April 27th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RockieRaider, that Aaron Rogers fell and led his team to a Superbowl Championship outweighs Quinn & Clausen falling.
I think the QBs fall but will all go in the late 1st early second round.
Way too many teams need a QB, Kevin Kolb can only play for one team.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
joni i agree, we should trade back if Wiz2 and a couple others on our board, a.k.a, Kaepernick, Little, Harris, Wilson, are still available.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Chris Simms, Josh McCown, Matt Schaub, Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, Charlie Whitehurst, Brodie Croyle, Trent Edwards, Kevin O’Connell & Colt McCoy were all recent 3rd round QB’s selected.
compare their college careers to a guy like Kaepernick …
Retribution, he could be there at #81
April 27th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I would love to see Raiders take Marcus Cannon in Round 5. if he falls that far due to his diagnosis. Raiders need to check with his doctors to see how serious his condition really is.
He would still be a bargain in Round 5.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
if players are able to be traded during the draft I see Mr. Murphy and/or Mr. Howard being traded.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Weird rumors going around now that the Titans like Dalton perhaps with their 1st pick and the Fins may consider Kap with their #15 pick?
Weird….if true, teams who need QB’s are desperate and don’t think some of those QB’s will be there in Roudn 2 for them to pick.
April 27th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Aaron Rogers fell and led his team to a Superbowl Championship outweighs Quinn & Clausen falling
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Rodgers had 3 full years on the bench behind future Hall-of-Fame QB Brett Favre
11x Pro Bowler & Super Bowl Champ
He’s also had the luxury of Mike McCarthy as HC since 2006 when he was drafted in 2005.
If AR was drafted by Oakland, he’d probably be out of the league like Andrew Walter!
that was kind of a unique situation and that Packers Defense under Capers is TOUGH
April 27th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Teams will fear having to play at the Overstock!
April 27th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Ill say it again drafting a qb in this draft makes no sense for the raiders. Unless your talking about taking a sniff at a 7th rd, or ufa.
The team is 8-8 and was an o-line short of the playoffs. With so many quality o-line players in the draft we have some flexibility with where we draft for the line. The secondary and Oline will be where this draft is focused.
Qb is not a need at all, and this is an extremely thin class. Your 2nd and 3rd rounder need to come in and play, not sit for a year or two like any project qb you would have to make a major reach to draft. Out side of newton & possibly kappy & gabbert, the rest of the qb class is extremely flawed, & the drop off is so severe that it isnt worth wasting a pick.
By the way locker and mallet are terrible. So lets fix the o-line beef up the secondary & maybe look at luxury picks (qb) late in the draft, meaning 6th round or later
April 27th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Stop compairing JaMarcus to Newton…it just sounds pretty ignorant!
April 27th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I see 9 OL & 6 CB’s off the board when Oakland is on the clock …
3 or 4 QB’s
4 or 5 WR’s
what to do ???
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OLINE!!!
April 27th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
April 27th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Priesttj
Debo is a mindless dolt that cant comprehend a simple overhead projector joke. I gave up on that tard a few posts a go.
Now back to the O-Line debate. My thought is that you want your first pick to be able to contribute right away and since we do not have a 1st round pick I think our second round pick has to be treated as a first rounder and be someone that can contribute right away.
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Tard???? Kind of tacky, don’t ya think? I believe the proper term is “mentally challenged”. And what an original take about picking a guy that can “contribute right away”. Where’d you get that, Mayock or McShay? Can’t you do better than that sheep?
April 27th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
here’s what i think we should ultimately do, and i think it’s very very plausible:
trade 2012 1st rounder + 2011 3rd rounder (48) to new england
receive new englands 2011 1st rounder (28) + 2011 2nd rounder (60)
(new england holds the 17th and 33rd overall as well)
*depending on how players go off the board
pick (28) OT Derrek Sherrod/OT Gabe Carimi*
pick (48) QB Colin Kaepernick
pick (60) OG Stefan Wisneiski/OT James Carpenter*
pick (81) S/CB Marcus Gilchrest/S/CB Chimdi Chekwa*
pick (113) TE Jordan Cameron
that’s my wish list
April 27th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Sorry to ruffle your feather DeBLOW but as I now see its pretty easy to do.
If you could read you might have been able to comprehend that I was responding to an earlier post….now the tard reference seems accurate.
I cant remember a blogger on this site ever being concerned about being “PC” But hey I guess it was all your feeble mind could come up with.
Do you still need help figuring out the overhead projector reference or did you ask your special ED counselor to explain it to you?
April 27th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@Irjonny, was i supposed to say our 1st and 2nd?n Our 1st and 3rd? #48 is our 2nd..
April 27th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
*it supposed
April 27th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
harder
yep oopsie
what do you guys think??
April 27th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
here’s what i think we should ultimately do, and i think it’s very very plausible:
trade 2012 1st rounder + 2011 3rd rounder (81) to new england
receive new englands 2011 1st rounder (28) + 2011 2nd rounder (60)
(new england holds the 17th and 33rd overall as well)
*depending on how players go off the board
pick (28) OT Derrek Sherrod/OT Gabe Carimi*
pick (48) QB Colin Kaepernick
pick (60) OG Stefan Wisneiski/OT James Carpenter*
pick (113) TE Jordan Cameron
that’s my wish list
*********this is what i meant to post*******
April 27th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
In general the idea of a trade is good imo! Not sure what value the 2012 picks have though, and there might be a run for the Pat pick which could inflate the price.. But if we could get a trade with our 2012 1st and a trade of 2nd it would be a good thing imo! Like the picks as well! Except i would prefer Franklin over Wiz in the 2nd.. Think Wiz is a great player, and a hard worker as well, but on tape he just seems too much like a ZBS guy, having trouble with stronger linemen and powerful bullrushes /Dareus for instance.. Also he lacks a mean streak imo.. But that said, i wouldnt be too upset seeing him come in, he is a high character guy and works his ass off, gotta appreciate that!
April 27th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Dont think we could do that trade – our 1st next year has less value than theirs this year because of the uncertainty and some teams wanting up to get a player they have seen fall before the pause.. Would love it if it happened, but dont think its possible.. Maybe we could get their 1st for our 1st in 12 and a third, but a 2nd on top seems too much imo.. ?
April 27th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
But list looks good though! Help at Oline, TE as well and a project QB.. Dont think Kape will be there though, rumors have him mid-late 1st now, perhaps to Mia at 15, but in that case one of the top DBs might make sense..
August 25th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
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January 30th, 2012 at 5:35 am
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April 17th, 2012 at 7:31 am
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