Raiders out of first round . . . for now
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, April 26th, 2011 at 7:17 am in Oakland Raiders.
As it stands, the Raiders won’t have a draft pick in the first round for the first time since 1989.
However, as Steve Corkran writes in today’s Bay Area News Group papers, owner Al Davis has a history of trading up and it wouldn’t be shocking if he were to package draft picks to get into the first round Thursday night if there is a player on the board he wants.
And here’s a move that is strictly conjecture on my part but so very Raider _ swinging a deal with the New England Patriots to get the 17th pick back that was surrendered in the trade for defensive tackle Richard Seymour.
Oakland is an active trade partner with New England, including dealing up to get Mario Henderson, trading Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick and dealing Doug Gabriel to New England for a draft pick.
Teams are now free to make trades with players after Judge Susan Nelson’s injunction which at least temporarily ends the lockout. Owners may want to wait until an appeal is heard, but it’s not like Davis hasn’t broken ranks before. Even if Davis doesn’t want to use players, he can package draft picks from this year’s draft or future drafts, although the latter scenario is somewhat risky given there is no guarantee of a draft in future years.
If Oakland were to move up, my guess for a target would be Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith, a long and lean press coverage corner who has some issues but could be an instant replacement for Nnamdi Asomugha, expected to depart in free agency.
It will be interesting to see if any teams begin making offers to Asomugha in light of the injunction. Not doing so would risk a collusion charge.
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April 26th, 2011 at 7:20 am
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April 26th, 2011 at 7:21 am
If we keep the current Rules Namdi could be back.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Got a feeling he will be back! Big Al will pay up front and Awesome One will retire a Raider – eventually as a FS perhaps..
Any news about Raider players intent to return to Alameda?
April 26th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Trade up to get Patrick Peterson otherwise leave it alone Al
April 26th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Stay where we are and take the best O-lineman on the board.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Patrick Peterson is an incredible talent though! Don’t see any possible way we could get him without breaking the bank, but he would certainly be a great addition – will be for whoever picks him (Cardinals?)..
Besides DB, we need Oline, really hope that a potential trade doesnt happen on the account of Oline talent in this draft..
April 26th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Great, another DB.
Somebody to cover with his back turned while the fullback runs 80 yards for a touchdown.
Deliver us from Crazy Al.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:51 am
If Coach trades up, please get Solder for it.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:57 am
I don’t know…this could all get crazy for a while…
April 26th, 2011 at 8:04 am
G’Morning fellas.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:13 am
I hope we do not trade up we need OL help and if we move up it will be for something other than OL I can assure you.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Heard through the grapevine TB may release Aqib Talib. Might be a cheap pick up,,, but in the end I still think Nammdi stays,,, there’s a reason they’re getting rid of Huff and Gallerys salaries, if not I think Woodson can coach any cb we acquire into legit players.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Pretty Rick Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Heard through the grapevine TB may release Aqib Talib. Might be a cheap pick up,,, but in the end I still think Nammdi stays,,, there’s a reason they’re getting rid of Huff and Gallerys salaries, if not I think Woodson can coach any cb we acquire into legit players.
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What makes you think we are ‘dumping’ Huffs salary? NFL rules would not allow us to tender him an offer until free agency had started. We will be more agressive signing Huff than Nnamdi.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Jerry is on point, yet again. Jimmy Smith is an “Al Davis type guy”.
The Raiders should only trade up to get Pouncey or one of the top 3 corners (Peterson, Prince & Smith). Otherwise, keep the 48th and take one of the following: Rod Hudson (C/G, Florida St.) or Brandon Harris (CB, Miami). Based on Raider draft history chances are they’ll take a CB with the 2nd round pick and go for a OL in the 3rd.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Wouldnt mind Aqib if he were cheap, with an incentive laden deal. He would be a nice fit in our backfield, and I think Woodson could be the type of guy to get him on the right path in life.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:36 am
If Coach trades into the first round, please get Von Miller or Tyron Smith or Castonzo or Pouncey or Sherrod or Solder another quality O or D lineman and trade for Kolb as we will need a quality back-up/future QB. Keep Aso.
Campbell needs good O linemen. Coach knows this.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Stay at 48 and take Rodney Hudson!
April 26th, 2011 at 8:46 am
yeah,…assuming the top 3 CB are gone I’m sort of agree with you Noteasy
April 26th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I like Kolb too but he’s going to Arizona. Eagles will swap Kolb and their first rounder to move up and get Peterson.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:51 am
I’d love for the Raiders to use Nnamdi and Huff’s money to make a run at Santonio Holmes, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.
If the Raiders don’t draft a DB (which is unlikely, as they’ll be in prime position to take Dowling, House, Brown, Harris, and potentially even Jimmy Smith), Cromartie might be a fit. Don’t like him as a person, or his unwillingness to mix it up in the running game, but he’s a playmaker and a more than adequate press-man cover corner. He had a season much like Routt’s last season – limiting opposing QBs to something like a 40% completion percentage while playing across from one of the best CBs in the game. Would be a gamble, but if Asomugha isn’t coming back and the Raiders don’t draft a DB who can start right away, Cromartie would be a good fit. Sort of the opposite of Nnamdi – he may be inconsistent, but he’ll make plays on the ball and cause turnovers.
Other potential targets in free agency (assuming the Raiders aren’t going to spend money on Nnamdi and Huff):
OT Tyson Clabo
OG Harvey Dahl
FS Jarrad Page
CB Richard Marshall
April 26th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Al wont touch Aqib he is done with criminals. We have been over this many times here in this BLOG with every other degenerate that becomes available because of legal trouble.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:55 am
The Raiders should not trade up for an offensive lineman. They’re right where they need to be if that’s what they’re looking for. Cannon, Wisniewski, Ijalana, and Carpenter may all be available.
Ras-I Dowling and Curtis Brown would both be very solid picks at #48. Dave Razzano was saying the other day how Brown might be one of the best, if not the best press-man corners in the draft. Kid doesn’t hesitate to lay the wood, either.
Greg Little would be a great pick, particularly from a value standpoint, if he’s there.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Also, Marvin Austin would be a very solid pick from a value standpoint.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Especially in a year where they have no first rounder, the Raiders need to look for a player who has first-round talent and falls to #48 for whatever reason. This would potentially be Dowling, Little, Austin, and maybe even Jimmy Smith or Ben Ijalana.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Steve Smith wants out of Carolina.
April 26th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Do you think Little has the speed to be a Raider? He’s a big dude. Remindes me of a younger David Boston,….before all the roids & HGH took over.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/22998/video-gruden-qb-camp-with-ryan-mallett
if jackson convinced al to move up and get this guy, i would not be that mad. i think he is the only NFL ready qb on the board. to hell with his off the field stuff. one look at this guy and he is serious about being a quarterback in the nfl. not complacent at all.
kaepernick needs a couple of years on the sideline which i’m ok with too.
ONLY if we deal with the protection issue as well and early on can i justify a qb. our o-line is not okay. there will be free agency soon possibly tomorrow. all we are waiting on is an action by the players regarding the “stay” of the ruling. we might have free agency during the draft. then the appeals court will rule on a “stay” before deliberating on the appeal so hopefully we can get some movement going in free agency.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
# Albinator Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Do you think Little has the speed to be a Raider? He’s a big dude. Remindes me of a younger David Boston,….before all the roids & HGH took over.
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I don’t think he has the kind of speed that Al usually covets. But he’s got more than enough football speed. He’s physical and is a sharp route runner – something Hue Jackson and Al Saunders could definitely use across from Jacoby Ford. Plus, on the field, the difference between a 4.5 and a 4.3 is negligible.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
dudes but it oc sports center there saying tood mcshay got word of a trade altready.hell be on in a minute
April 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
put*
April 26th, 2011 at 9:05 am
i will do a back flip and brak my neck if we were able to get von miller we would have 1 of the nasties t 3-4 defenses.omg would i love to have this kid to team with k.wim and r.mc.( i know we dont play 3-4 but i heard a switch is coming)
April 26th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Irjonny Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/22998/video-gruden-qb-camp-with-ryan-mallett
if jackson convinced al to move up and get this guy, i would not be that mad. i think he is the only NFL ready qb on the board. to hell with his off the field stuff. one look at this guy and he is serious about being a quarterback in the nfl. not complacent at all.
kaepernick needs a couple of years on the sideline which i’m ok with too.
ONLY if we deal with the protection issue as well and early on can i justify a qb. our o-line is not okay. there will be free agency soon possibly tomorrow. all we are waiting on is an action by the players regarding the “stay” of the ruling. we might have free agency during the draft. then the appeals court will rule on a “stay” before deliberating on the appeal so hopefully we can get some movement going in free agency.
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Wouldn’t touch him….he has work ethic issues, not a leader, and lacks the “clutch gene”.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Mallett is also stiff in the pocket. And that pocket isn’t exactly going to be around for long with the Raider o-line in the shape it’s in. He’s got a big arm, for sure, but very little touch on the ball.
If Locker or Kaepernick fall to #48 I can see QB being the pick. Those two guys have a rare skill set and can make plays outside of the pocket. But they’re not going to fall. Dalton and Ponder will be out of reach, as well.
A lot of 2nd and 3rd-tier QBs this year who have been elevated because of a weak draft class and the amount of teams desperately looking for “The Guy”. But there’s not much difference between Ponder/Dalton and Enderle/Devlin in terms of upside.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:15 am
If we traded every pick we had except our second in an attempt to move up to get Patrick Peterson and we drafted him in the 1st and Marcus Gilbert in the 2nd, it would be a fantastic draft. Peterson is just a special talent IMO. He is gonna be a monster and he returns punts, which we are in need of.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Albinator Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I like Kolb too but he’s going to Arizona. Eagles will swap Kolb and their first rounder to move up and get Peterson.
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Eagles wont let Kolb go for less than a 1st rounder. They dont need to, they are quite content to let Kolb back up Vick.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:23 am
oungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Mallett is also stiff in the pocket. And that pocket isn’t exactly going to be around for long with the Raider o-line in the shape it’s in. He’s got a big arm, for sure, but very little touch on the ball.
If Locker or Kaepernick fall to #48 I can see QB being the pick. Those two guys have a rare skill set and can make plays outside of the pocket. But they’re not going to fall. Dalton and Ponder will be out of reach, as well.
A lot of 2nd and 3rd-tier QBs this year who have been elevated because of a weak draft class and the amount of teams desperately looking for “The Guy”. But there’s not much difference between Ponder/Dalton and Enderle/Devlin in terms of upside.
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I think Kaepernick will be available and I would grab him with out hesitation. He would be raw enough where he wouldn’t immediately challenge for a starting spot, therefore not put too much pressure on Soup. Jason would also provide the perfect tutor, a great technician who can really sell the fake on play action, awesome throwing mechanics, pretty good footwork, is a film junkie, and just all around good teammate according to reports.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:24 am
we can always use our 1st in 2012 to move up. i’m ok with not having a 1st rounder because using the following years 1st as trade ammo is always an option if there is a prospect in the 1st you can’t pass up.
every qb in this draft has issues. malletts are issues off the field in the past and i think those go away quickly once he starts winning…and he will imo in the right system. brees, manning, brady, sanchez, flacco, ryan, bradford, all in the pockeet qbs. all playoff calibur or better. i don’t want a mobile qb. imo mallett will be a good qb in the nfl. not saying we should definately move to get him but it’s interesting.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:26 am
I don’t see Kaepernick falling past the Titans.
If you’re right, I hope the Raiders pull off some moves in free agency and bring in more offensive line help.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:33 am
every qb in this draft has issues. malletts are issues off the field in the past and i think those go away quickly once he starts winning…and he will imo in the right system. brees, manning, brady, sanchez, flacco, ryan, bradford, all in the pockeet qbs. all playoff calibur or better. i don’t want a mobile qb. imo mallett will be a good qb in the nfl. not saying we should definately move to get him but it’s interesting.
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Mallett is also a Bobby Petrino QB. I don’t recall any of those guys ever being truly successful as a starting QB in this league, no matter how many snaps they take from under center in college.
A big arm is the least important aspect of a QB. It’s SLIGHTLY more important with the Raiders because of the type of routes the WRs run, but you still have to be accurate and a good decision maker. Mallett is neither of those things on a consistent basis.
Maybe his off-the-field issues go away with winning. Maybe they get worse when he has millions of dollars. This isn’t even a Raiders team that can win right away, nor is he a guy who should play right away. Lack of mobility, both in and out of the pocket, is a concern when the team has a hard time maintaining the pocket. Do not see Mallett as a fit in any way, and there’s no way the Raiders should trade up for him. I’d consider him if he fell to the third round.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Irjonny Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:24 am
we can always use our 1st in 2012 to move up. i’m ok with not having a 1st rounder because using the following years 1st as trade ammo is always an option if there is a prospect in the 1st you can’t pass up.
every qb in this draft has issues. malletts are issues off the field in the past and i think those go away quickly once he starts winning…and he will imo in the right system. brees, manning, brady, sanchez, flacco, ryan, bradford, all in the pockeet qbs. all playoff calibur or better. i don’t want a mobile qb. imo mallett will be a good qb in the nfl. not saying we should definately move to get him but it’s interesting.
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I dont care about a mobile QB, with our system i think it is important to have a QB that can execut the bootleg. Pocket presence is more important, it is a trait that all of the above QB’s have and that Mallett lacks. He has the same skill set of Andrew Walter, and the same weaknesses.
Your argument about his off the field issues and lack of work ethic reminds me of the same argument made by the people who argued against my desire for us to Draft Megatron over the player that shall not be named. They all said forget work ethic, this kid can throw the rock. Forget lack of leadership, he has a cannon for an arm. In the NFL Mallett could be Joe Flacco or he could be the other guy, right now he is a lot closer to the other guy.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:36 am
RNS posted this about Jimmy Smith yesterday.
He really seems like a Raider and his past F ups seem like they are behind him.
GET HIM AL! then sign Aso! Two shut down corners!
“We’re thinking the Raiders will need to move up to get him. If they’re going DB day one, they absolutely should.”
http://raidernationstation.com/raider_huddle
April 26th, 2011 at 9:36 am
severeraiderz
valid point. just throwing stuff around.
marcus cannon has lymphoma and has to go through maybe 24 weeks of chemo starting immediately. so there goes that idea. doctor said he might not be ready to play.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am
what did todd mcshay say about a trade??
April 26th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Damn. Shame about Marcus Cannon. Kid has talent. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Kaepernick should be the Raiderts pick if they go QB but I like the Smith idea ESPECIALLY if Nnamdi goes bye bye and even if he don’t!
April 26th, 2011 at 9:44 am
42. God speed Cannon
April 26th, 2011 at 9:45 am
WAIT! Everyone says he DOESN’T have cancer? wth?!
April 26th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Luckily for Cannon, it won’t require a bone to be replaced as it did with Herzelich. Kid can definitely make a full recovery, but he’ll have an uphill climb. I hope he’ll get his shot at an NFL career soon enough.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am
they did a battery of tests to show marcus doesn’t have testicular cancer, which is true but the tests showed positive for lymphoma. doctor said it’s in his stomach and he will undergo chemo treatment for possibly 24 weeks. good luck cannon…bad break but he will still get drafted. can’t be any worse than the ravens picking sergio kindle lol. at least jamarcus played.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:49 am
can’t be any worse than the ravens picking sergio kindle
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Kindle busted his noggin AFTER the Ravens drafted him
April 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am
i know not their fault…still funny though
April 26th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Pls no more DB’s in the first or 2nd round.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:51 am
SkinnyLegs, what did he say?
April 26th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Texans want to move up for Peterson.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:55 am
WITCH WAY THE RAIDERS GOING THIS WEEKEND,O-LINE,MAYBE A QB,WHATS UR OPINION ?
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Dirt Lot,
I’m for fixing the offense with this draft. Leave the doggone defense alone unless you need some late-round DB’s for competition
and PLEASE no more young WR’s for Sanjay Lal to “coach up”. He has his hands full with DHB, Murphy, Ford & Nmiller. Plus Glass Schilens
if Al Davis wants a speedster WR, I hope he waits for Ricardo Lockette or Aldrick Robinson in Round 7. perhaps a pending UFA like Jarred Fayson or D’Andre Goodwin
I would take a QB at #48. I suspect Ryan Mallett, Andy Dalton & Colin Kaepernick will all be available
April 26th, 2011 at 9:57 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:26 am
I don’t see Kaepernick falling past the Titans.
If you’re right, I hope the Raiders pull off some moves in free agency and bring in more offensive line help.
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I think that the Titans will opt for a more traditional style of QB and may even wait for a guy like Devlin or Tolzien or take Stanzi, who could fall as a result of the surge made by Dalton and Ponder.
If we got Kaepernick in the second we could still get Marcus Gilbert or Demarcus Love in the 3rd, Van Dyke in the 4th, Culliver in the 5th(or Mana Silva later), and go BPA after that. I would really like us to look at Vidal Hazelton as a late round or free agent pick up at WR, Allen Bradford as a potential RB to FB convert, and Jerrell Powe whose weight issues at DT could cause him to drop, but whose perseverance is so incredible i couldnt see how he couldnt at least make the practice squad.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I like 2 of these kids, if we can get them in Round 3 & 4 …
Stefen Wisniewski
Kristofer O’Dowd
Brandon Fusco
Orlando Franklin
Marcus Gilbert
James Brewer
Will Rackley
John Moffitt
Clint Boling
April 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Had a dream that we drafted Dalton.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
in case u missed it.
judge nelson has ordered the players to respond by early wednesday to the leagues request for a stay in the ruling. of course players will deny.
the players have asked nelson to force a new league year. nfl has until afternoon on wednesday to respond. (i know kinda weird)
judge nelson can ultimately make the decision from what i gather.
players are pushing to get free agency during draft and most think it might happen. that could be a good thing and a bad thing for the raiders. we could move around players, but unless we have something already set up. Aso’s agent could sign him anywhere as well especially once peterson is off the board teams would freak. hopefully aso already has somethin set up with davis.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:03 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Mallett is also stiff in the pocket. And that pocket isn’t exactly going to be around for long with the Raider o-line in the shape it’s in. He’s got a big arm, for sure, but very little touch on the ball.
If Locker or Kaepernick fall to #48 I can see QB being the pick. Those two guys have a rare skill set and can make plays outside of the pocket.
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I would rather have Kap and Locker ahead of Mallett. They can improvise.
Sucks about Cannon, but maybe they can still draft him in Round 5?
How serious is this about Cannon does he have the cancer yet or will they just be trying to prevent it? Wonder how this is coming out now? Raiders need to check on this and make sure.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:03 am
I would take a QB at #48. I suspect Ryan Mallett, Andy Dalton & Colin Kaepernick will all be available
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I will physically vomit if we draft Ryan Mallett. I would be happy with Dalton, admittedly I dont know much about Kaepernick.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Schefter just tweeted about Cannon. Stage 3 non-Hodgkin Lymphoma. He receives his first chemo treatment tomorrow. 90% success rate with treatment.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Here are your options for the Oakland Raiders with the No. 48 pick.
Please give your reason why you are making the pick in the comment section below.
1. Ras-I Dowling
2. Brandon Harris
3. Colin Kaepernick
4. Stefen Wisniewski
Comment:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:07 am
personally i think kaepernick is the way to go if we get a qb. i like mallett and think he will be good, but kaepernick needs a little time to adjust to system before starting and we have a starter already. it’s a perfect fit and campbell would be a great teacher imo.
we really really need o-line and we all know that. but without free agency it’s all best available regardless of position. kaepernick is the best on the board at #48 imo if he’s there.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Van Dyke should not be in play until the 6th round, at earliest. Kid wasn’t even that good at Miami. Has length and speed, but no physicality. There will be a plethora of players who are much better prospects available in the 4th round.
Personally? I wouldn’t draft Van Dyke at all.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Mallett would be a terrible pick. Dalton won’t be available. Kaepernick likely won’t be, either.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Groves says he wouldnt be surprised to find JC at the facility. Jc is a pro’s pro, & he has the respect of the entire locker room! I cant wait for football season!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:19 am
O’Dowd makes Jake Grove look like he’s made of steel.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Raiders will move up depending how fast the QBs go in the first round;
if all of the top QBs: Newton, Gabbert, Locher, Ponder, Dalton, Mallett, & Kapernick get drafted in the first 40 picks then some quality OL/DBs will fall to the Raiders at #48
long shot at a WR at #48 could be Little of UNC as well.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Best player available is really the only way to draft. Obviously, if you have to choose between a few very talented guys, you choose the one who best fits what you need. But reaching for a “need” pick leads to draft busts really setting your team back.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 am
wow am I dreaming? Davis & Hi Jack in lock step. Hu jcack & campbell also of one mind. The Hc and qb are the leaders for our team, THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Funny, HueJack just said the draft is about need.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:25 am
DaQuan Bowers seems to be falling due to long term ailment, teams only see him playing for a few years.
Al drafts and makes personeel decions to win now; should Bowers fall beyond the 16th pick I could see Al moving up to get him to play now, pay now, and win Now!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:26 am
# KoolKell Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Funny, HueJack just said the draft is about need.
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Yep. It worries me, because god knows what Al Davis thinks the Raiders’ “needs” are.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am
YA, I’d be p!$$ed if the Raiders draft Taiwan in the 2nd!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Hu Jack said the o-line is the main are of need, and the game is won and lost in the trenches. Dont worry fellas, we will see quality o-line play and new blood in the oline for 2011. There will also be a cb taken. With so many qb needy teams there will plenty of quality for us to choose from
April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 am
raiders won’t draft a WR early imo. we have all young guys at the position. if we get a WR at all it would be a vet. santana moss, ochocinco, steve smith etc.
every position is a “need” for us this year. so if we stay at 48 will be best available. i really really think hujack gets his qb if we have to move up al will do it. al and hue have great respect for one another it looks like and hue is known for “developing”. it’s either QB, OG, DB (hopefully not), or OLB in my opinion.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 am
I don’t think it’ll be Taiwan in the second… but I was wrong about DHB in the 1st, and couldn’t have even fathomed the Mitchell pick, so who knows.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:32 am
US court grants new sentencing for Mumia Abu-Jamal
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jmujyktf0thHYzlPtCp70rXgmkzw?docId=28296761d1ef48f99e7be880ec2b718c
April 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am
DB and O-line are the two positions where “need” and “best player available” will coincide at #48.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Irjonny Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:31 am
raiders won’t draft a WR early imo. we have all young guys at the position. if we get a WR at all it would be a vet. santana moss, ochocinco, steve smith etc.
every position is a “need” for us this year. so if we stay at 48 will be best available. i really really think hujack gets his qb if we have to move up al will do it. al and hue have great respect for one another it looks like and hue is known for “developing”. it’s either QB, OG, DB (hopefully not), or OLB in my opinion.
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OLB…Casey Matthews Oregon
http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2011/0128/dm_110128_ncf_casey_matthews_int.jpg
Will be available 4-5th RD!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Actually, KoolKell, here’s what Hue said:
“You’re always looking,” Jackson said. “If there’s a great player out there, I don’t want to pass him up if we have a chance to put him on our team and he’s a true difference-maker for this organization. I don’t think anybody would. So, there’s no position that we wouldn’t look at. It’s a very young, talented team that we have.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/24/SPP91J64H7.DTL#ixzz1KeUQZYMJ
April 26th, 2011 at 10:40 am
R8eray Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Here are your options for the Oakland Raiders with the No. 48 pick.
Please give your reason why you are making the pick in the comment section below.
1. Ras-I Dowling
2. Brandon Harris
3. Colin Kaepernick
4. Stefen Wisniewski
Comment: Kaepernick, if available, should be the pick. he has all the tools that it takes to be a good and potentialy great QB and the intangibles o match. He has a very strong arm, has displayed the ability to deliver the ball with accuracy and touch, has a super work ethic, is a natural leader, was super productive and a winner, and has position versatility. Has tons of experience and carried his team with clutch play. The pistol, though it is still a shotgun offense, is closer to a pro style system than the spread.
Wiz is overrated in my opinion and i would prefer Gilbert if we go o-line there, Ras I Dowling wont be able to play man up in the NFL IMO, and we could get Van Dyke or Chekwa in the 3rd or 4th
April 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Van Dyke or Chekwa in the 3rd or 4th? Now THAT is reaching. Neither of those guys are good at all. If you think Dowling won’t be able to hold up in man coverage in the NFL, I don’t know why you’d think Van Dyke would be able to.
Curtis Brown, Davon House, and Brandon Harris will be there if Dowling isn’t. Curtis Brown is probably one of the better man corners in this draft. Like him a lot. A bunch of scouts do, too. Apparently the Raiders had him in for a workout.
Still, I’m hoping the run on QBs means Ben Ijalana will be available.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:47 am
casey mathews would be a plug and play player day one. with groves and wimbley in rotation would be a no brainer even in rnd 3 in my opinion if the draft goes that way.
imo we need at least 1 guards and 1 tackle to help the o-line, 1 vet wr, 1 qb to develop, 1 TE and a blocking FB. the raiders have gone defense heavy lately i expect an offensive push for players this offseason
raiders 2010
pass def- 2nd
run def- 29th
pass off- 23rd
rush off- 2nd
fix the pass offense = help the run defense a whole bunch. points points points.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:51 am
7 qbs = newton, locher, gabbert, mallett, dalton, kaepernick, ponder
4 wrs = jones, green, hankerson, young
1 rb = ingram
1 te = rudolph
5 OTs = smith, costanzo, sherrod, carimi, solder
1 g/c = pouncey
10 DEs = quinn, jordan, bowers, heyward, sheard, clayborn, smith, kerrigan, wilkerson, watt
7 dts = dareus, liuget, fairley, taylor, nevis, austin, paea
2 olb = miller, ayers
3 cbs = peterson, amukamara, smith
2 s = moore, tarrant
these are the 43 players that I think are a lock to go before our 48th overall selection
therefore the Raiders have a legit shot at
OLs: Wisniewski, Cannon, Taylor, Hudson, Ijalana, CB: B. Harris, C Brown, LB M. Wilson, WR Little
if the Raiders are eying more than one of these (or another one that may be on the bottom tier of the 43 that are still available); Raiders could even move back and get more selections.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am
The Raiders definitely need more offensive firepower. A second pass-catching TE will help Hue stretch the field horizontally. He loves those multiple TE sets.
I don’t think there will be a WR drafted high, but I also don’t see the Raiders will be bringing in any veterans. I just think that Greg Little will be able to step in immediately and pay huge dividends for the offense. He won’t be some “project” guy who needs extra attention like DHB does. IF he’s there at #48 – and with his stock rising, that’s becoming a big if – it could be a home-run pick at a tremendous value.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Van Dyke should not be in play until the 6th round, at earliest. Kid wasn’t even that good at Miami. Has length and speed, but no physicality. There will be a plethora of players who are much better prospects available in the 4th round.
Personally? I wouldn’t draft Van Dyke at all.
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I’d take him in the 4th or 5th. he is a thin long guy and would have to put on weigh, but he doesn’t shy away from contact and was a gunner on special teams. He will be on Al’s radar cuz he ran a 4.28 officially, is a corner from a school that has a tradition of putting out good players from the secondary, has great feet and hips, and doesnt shy away from contact to spite his size. Is one of those guys with great natural talent and who i think will be better in the pros than he was in college, especially with Woodson teaching him how to play the position.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:53 am
trade our 1st in 2012 for carimi or solder draft kaepernick, then OG or mathews??
April 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Trading the 2012 first rounder would remove the Raiders from any possibility of hitting it big in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:05 am
I’m with you Young American, we keep our 2012 1st round selection: should we suffer multiple injuries and have a set back season we are in the running for Luck, with our 2012 and 2013 1st round we could potentially move up to get Luck.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am
i don’t think we will have enough ammo for andrew luck anyways. no way to bottom team trades that pick imo.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
of the 52 players I listed above, I would be exstatic with the Raiders drafting any one of them, so I hope we do not pay too much to move up in the late 1st round or earlier 2nd round.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
There’s always the chance that the Raiders earn that pick outright. Nothing is guaranteed going into this season.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
YoungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Van Dyke or Chekwa in the 3rd or 4th? Now THAT is reaching. Neither of those guys are good at all. If you think Dowling won’t be able to hold up in man coverage in the NFL, I don’t know why you’d think Van Dyke would be able to.
Curtis Brown, Davon House, and Brandon Harris will be there if Dowling isn’t. Curtis Brown is probably one of the better man corners in this draft. Like him a lot. A bunch of scouts do, too. Apparently the Raiders had him in for a workout.
Still, I’m hoping the run on QBs means Ben Ijalana will be available.
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I just think that Dowling is more cut out for a zone scheme than the straight up man coverage that we play. Van Dyke and Chekwa both offer special teams value and could play the smaller slot receivers that are popular in the NFL now. Both are tall thin guys, Chekwa is a little bigger and more physical than Van Dayke, and both have the length and leaping ability to go up for jump balls. Speed is a premium at corner and bot have it in abundance. Chekwa is the better prospect at this point, but i think with the proper technique taught to him Van Dyke can be a very good player. 3rd is probably too high for both but a mid fourth for Chekwa seems right on time and i wouldnt mind a gamble on van Dyke there either. Curtis Brown would be the perfect fit at corner for us but he will be gone by the time we pick.
Ben Ijalan would be availabe even without the run on QB’s IMO. He lacks killer instinct and and seems like he gets lost on the field at times. is very strong and powerful but doenst always work with the proper pad level and allowas guys to get under him. Plus he played at Villanova. Id trade back in the second a pick up an extra pick or 2 if he was gonna be the pick. I still prefer Gilber over most tackles in this draft, i also like Sherrod.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:11 am
fix the pass offense = help the run defense a whole bunch. points points points.
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We were the #6 overall scoring team in the NFL last year. That improved our run defense from 31st to 29th. We need to fix the run defense by actually addressing the run defense.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:12 am
I think next years draft is going to be better/deeper int he first round
this draft is 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round deep
after Peterson, Dareus, Miller, Jordan, Jones, and Green the rest could be taken anywhere from the top ten to the 40’s
April 26th, 2011 at 11:13 am
true. the raiders could always go 0-16. not likely though. hujacks 1st year at coach. he gets qb and o-line early imo this year. if campbell struggles hujack has a safety net. just makes sense in most respects.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:16 am
two things will help our run defense:
1st) better run tackling by our linebackers (getting tired of DBs being blamed for LBs responsibilities) [especially when we play primarily man to man];
2nd) offense scoring early, therefore we need to improve our passing game (having a great running game will solidify us with a record anywhere from 10-6 to 6-10 for years to come maybe making the playoffs, maybe not).
April 26th, 2011 at 11:18 am
We were the #6 overall scoring team in the NFL last year. That improved our run defense from 31st to 29th. We need to fix the run defense by actually addressing the run defense.
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not saying we should ignore it, just saying we could go either way at this point and offense seems like the obvious choice to me.
im probably in the minority thinking our defense is good overall going into 2012. if we improve the offense we win the division i think.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:19 am
87.YoungAmerican Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am
The Raiders definitely need more offensive firepower. A second pass-catching TE will help Hue stretch the field horizontally. He loves those multiple TE sets.
I don’t think there will be a WR drafted high, but I also don’t see the Raiders will be bringing in any veterans. I just think that Greg Little will be able to step in immediately and pay huge dividends for the offense. He won’t be some “project” guy who needs extra attention like DHB does. IF he’s there at #48 – and with his stock rising, that’s becoming a big if – it could be a home-run pick at a tremendous value.
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I agree. If Greg Little is their for the Raiders to pick at #48 (which I doubt he will be) they should take him and then draft O-Line in Round 3, then OLB or TE in Round 4, then CB or S Mana Silva in Round 5. Then get a DT, or another CB in Round 6.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:21 am
new post only two comments made so far
April 26th, 2011 at 11:22 am
playoffs shouldn’t be the goal. that’s what got cable fired. he had the team focused on division wins. we need to aim for super bowl and to do that we have to beat colts, jets, patriots etc. can we do that with a mediocre run defense? yes. can we do that with mediocre pass offense? not likely. simple as that to me. it’s a pretty loud trend in the nfl. passing = titles
April 26th, 2011 at 11:23 am
irjonny Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 10:47 am
casey mathews would be a plug and play player day one. with groves and wimbley in rotation would be a no brainer even in rnd 3 in my opinion if the draft goes that way.
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I agree….they need to get Casey Matthews in Round 3 IF he is still there!
He won’t fall to the Raiders in Round 4. No way.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
cerita ngentot…
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