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Who would Raiders trade to get into Round 1?

Chances are the NFL will continue non-business as usual and there will be no trading of players for purposes of maneuvering in tonight’s first round of the NFL draft.

League spokesman Greg Aiello said teams will proceed as they have been until further notice.

But what if the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals rules against the NFL at some point today and suddenly teams are free to deal?

The Raiders don’t pick until No. 48 this year, in the middle of the second round, as a reward for their rise to mediocrity and an 8-8 record. Picking that late will make it more difficult to trade back into the first round, as opposed to past years when their second-round pick was something approximating a selection in the late first.

We won’t know until tonight how conservative teams are going to in acquiring picks for drafts in future years when there is a even a slight chance they could be eliminated because of anti-trust concerns. No sense in trading for a future lottery ticket if it can’t be cashed.

(Honestly, with both the players and owners wanting to continue the draft, and being the attraction that it is, I have a hard time envisioning it going away. But you never know how a team will react to when it’s not set in stone).

If the Raiders (and everyone else) were free to trade to get into Round 1, who would be on the block?

First, eliminate anyone not under contract.

That list would include, most notably, Michael Bush, Zach Miller, Nnamdi Asomugha, Samson Satele and Robert Gallery.

Kamerion Wimbley has signed his franchise tender, but don’t expect teams to come calling with his mammoth $11 exclusive franchise figure. Other huge deals unlikely to draw interest would be defensive tackles Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly cornerback Stanford Routt, running back Darren McFadden, and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey. Unless Al Davis is truly peeved at Shane Lechler for his criticism of the Tom Cable firing, he’s sticking around as well. As is place kicker Sebastian Janikowski.

The players of real value in terms of reasonable contracts and potential future production are the core of the youth movement which has helped put the franchise back on its feet in terms of won-loss record.

The offers would likely come for the following players: wide receivers Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford, middle linebacker Rolando McClain, left tackle Jared Veldheer, defensive linemen Matt Shaughnessy, Lemarr Houston and Trevor Scott (although he’s rehabbing an ACL) and safety Tyvon Branch.

All are relative bargains in terms of acquired salary in a future where the cap status is uncertain and have demonstrated promise.

Do you deal the players you already know to draft one that you don’t?

Again, the “trading players” scenario is unlikely at this point, but the thought of it is worth killing some time until 5 p.m.

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  • Jonesy941

    jenkins looks good! would be nice to get him in sup draft, but i have feeling Kaepernick is gone by the time we pick!!!

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:11 am
    @45

    I’m inclined to agree, although I’ve seen mocks putting Gilbert into the 4th as well.

    2- Kaeper
    3- Wiz
    4- Gilbert

    Supplemental – Jenkins

    ..drool..

    **********

    Corrected

  • severeraiderz

    If we don’t take Kaepernick i think we should look at some QB’s later on….the guys I like are:

    Tyrod Taylor: gets absolutely no love and isnt even being considered as a QB by most teams. Has a good arm and nice intagibles. Was really productive against top notch competition and was a team leader

    Jerrod Johnson: Had an incredible 2009 season and a terrible 2010, mostly due to off season nshoulder surgery. He was being graded out as a 2nd round pick by most coming into last season. Has a good arm, great size at 6’5″ 248lbs, and nice mobility. Had a bad combine but impressed at his pro day. Is used to taking snaps from under center, though footwork and mechanics still need polishing.

    Nathan Enderle: Great size 6’4″ 240lbs, great arm, 4 year starter with a lot of experience, played from under center. Extreme lack of touch and accuracy, completion percentage was only 56.7%, doesnt throw a catchable ball

    Joshua Portis: Highly recruited out of High School and ended up a Florida. Went from Florida, to Maryland, to California (PA) for reasons uknown. Has great athleticism, a good arm, and threw for 69td’s to 16int’s over his last 2 years. Cousin of Clinton Portis and could move to receiver if need be

  • Jonesy941

    we can only hope thats the way it happens but sounds to good to be true

  • RaiderRetribution

    Red, Raiders would get an A+ grade if we got Wisniewski in the 3rd round, even if we had to move up from #81 or move back from #48.

    That would make my weekend.

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:08 am
    Teeth & Red

    Kaepernick in the 2nd round & Florida’s Gilbert in the 3rd round, this would give us a legit future QB and a solid right tackle for years to come.

    ———————-

    Agree about Gilbert but…how about Jah Reid who is below the radar!
    He’ll be there around 4?

  • Carl Weathers

    Trade Eugene!!!

  • RaiderRetribution

    for Saturday, I would like to see the Raiders draft Gilbert, Matthews, or Pettis in the 4th, Keo or Skrine in the 5th, QB Taylor or Devlin in the sixth.

  • Just Fire Baby

    r8eray Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 8:59 am
    Vegas, Ijalana won’t be there in the 3rd…..I thought you were in Vegas?

    ******************************

    I leave this evening.

    Wife’s already there firing!!!

    (No Ijalana in the 3rd??? Bummer)

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:14 am
    If we don’t take Kaepernick i think we should look at some QB’s later on….the guys I like are:

    Tyrod Taylor: gets absolutely no love and isnt even being considered as a QB by most teams. Has a good arm and nice intagibles. Was really productive against top notch competition and was a team leader

    ————

    Didn’t get to watch any of his games but did see alot of highlights….I like the kid, he’s got heart and talent!
    Some teams have him as a WR/WildCatQB…didn’t he beat Vick’s Records @ VT?

  • Carl Weathers

    From memory, here are the Raiders QB’s drafted in the last 30 years…

    JaWorthless
    Walter
    Tui
    Hobert(?)
    Surfing stoner (can’t remember his name)
    Wilson

    There’s probably a couple more but it doesn’t matter what their names are. Davis has ZERO success drafting QB’s.

    If he were to pick one it would probably be Mallett, I think he’ll be a bust.

  • severeraiderz

    R8eray Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 8:54 am
    Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
    6′-1″ 232 40/4.78

    ——————

    Ray Lewis
    6′-1″ 250 40/?

    Ray had alot to prove…people (scouts) saying he was too short for his position….look at him now!
    /////////////////////////////////
    Ray Lewis was dominant a=from a school that has put ou some of the best defensive players to ever play the game over the last 2 decades. Similarities in size dont equate similarities in heart, desire, toughness, leadership, and will; Ray Lewis is unmatched in all of these categories. On Pro Bowl teams with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, it is Ray Lewis who the players follow. BTW Ray Lewis ran a 4.58

  • Just Fire Baby

    Shark,

    Just ask around.

    I got in many a battles with Rockstar, SnB and JHill about the need for a WR in that draft.

    I always said it would be a WR, either Crabs or DHB. When Crabs hurt his foot and didn’t run the 40, the decision was made.

    (But I am checking the archives…….)

  • RaiderRetribution

    which draft board have all of you been using mostly, espn’s, nfl.com’s, yahoo’s, tsn’s, other?

    I find myself using the Sporting News most often, especially when one you mentions someone like Jah Reid, and I need to look him up.

    TSN had Jimmy Smith rated in the top 15, only one I saw that had him that high.

    funny how all these different sites have a different top 5, they all agree that Patrick Peterson is the best player/athlete and most dominate at his position, but none have rated as the #1 player to be drafted.

  • RaiderRetribution

    for the facewbook.com/budlight draft challenge for 10 million dollars I selected Newton 1st, Peterson 2nd afte that I do not remember.

  • RaiderRetribution

    No draft next year?

    Andrew Luck is a Raider, Al will break out [or is that into] the bank, cut half the team to sign him as a FA!

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:23 am
    R8eray Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 8:54 am
    Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
    6′-1″ 232 40/4.78

    ——————

    Ray Lewis
    6′-1″ 250 40/?

    Ray had alot to prove…people (scouts) saying he was too short for his position….look at him now!
    /////////////////////////////////
    Ray Lewis was dominant a=from a school that has put ou some of the best defensive players to ever play the game over the last 2 decades. Similarities in size dont equate similarities in heart, desire, toughness, leadership, and will; Ray Lewis is unmatched in all of these categories. On Pro Bowl teams with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, it is Ray Lewis who the players follow. BTW Ray Lewis ran a 4.58

    ———————

    Sevrere, I’m just trying to make a case for Matthews…thats all. I’m not sayin take him in the 1st!

    Like the kid… kinda reminds me of Clay Matthews…now wouldn’t that be nice?

  • Silverandblack666

    funny how every time a college QB runs a lot people think he will be a good pro.

    Not the case!

    Tyrod Taylor is not even on most draft boards for a reason.

  • Carl Weathers

    65.RaiderRetribution Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:27 am
    for the facewbook.com/budlight draft challenge for 10 million dollars I selected Newton 1st, Peterson 2nd afte that I do not remember.

    ************

    I may have to join facebook…

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    PFT: Ryan Leaf looks back on the draft: I should have stayed in school!

    I wonder what JaMarcus is saying?

  • Just Fire Baby

    vegas raider Says:
    April 16th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
    While we’re at it throw in my updated mock:

    1-Crabtree or DHB / if gone than Raji
    2-Brace DT or Michael Johnson DE / if Raji 1st than H Nicks or Louis Murphy
    3- Worrell Williams or Vaughn SS
    4- Best O-line guy
    6- Frank Summers – FB UNLV, Oakland native
    7- fastest guy left

    *****************************************

    Not bad there……even also threw out Lou Murphy (in the 2nd though).

    Ron Brace in the 2nd round would have been a disaster and whatever happened to Worrel Williams??

  • hellsbells

    Matthews played middle linebacker at Oregen. Not enough speed to play outside. Would like to grad the kid from Florida in the supplemental draft. How about the WR from ND who also got the boot?

  • RaiderRockstar

    The question isn’t “Is this the best QB draft class?” the question is “Is this the most QB needed draft?”

    ***

    Blackhole,

    the answer is still NO!

    are Newton, Gabbert & Locker locks to be better than Palmer, Young or McNabb ???

    yeah friggin right. thats a joke right there man.

    I’ll give you Russell, Quinn & Edwards. Maybe even Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen or Tarvaris Jackson

    Ryan Fitzpatrick & Kevin Kolb will be better than ANY QB drafted this year for any team that wants to make the playoffs in the next 3 seasons …

  • Carl Weathers

    What is the best site for football? I can’t stand nfl.com, it seems so slow compared to every other website and often has mistakes or broken links.

  • severeraiderz

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; Seriously, I Hate That Guy…) Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:11 am
    @45

    I’m inclined to agree, although I’ve seen mocks putting Gilbert into the 4th as well.

    1- Kaeper
    2- Wiz
    3- Gilbert

    Supplemental – Jenkins

    ..drool..
    ///////////////////////////////////////

    If this scenario played out i might bust a nut in my pants lol,,,,Gilbert is my favorite OL in this draft. Also if we could get Byron Bell, another cb like Shareece Wright or Rashad Carmichael, and a WR like Pettis or Toliver late, that would make my day

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Top 47 picks will be:

    CB Patrick Peterson
    LB Von Miller
    DT Marcell Dareus
    WR A.J. Green
    DE Robert Quinn
    CB Prince Amukamara
    DT Nick Fairley
    WR Julio Jones
    QB Blaine Gabbert
    OT Tyron Smith
    QB Cam Newton
    DE Cameron Jordan
    RB Mark Ingram
    DE J.J. Watt
    DE Ryan Kerrigan
    OT Anthony Castonzo
    DE Da’Quan Bowers
    DT Corey Liuget
    DE Aldon Smith
    OG Mike Pouncey
    OT Gabe Carimi
    DE Adrian Clayborn
    OT Nate Solder
    QB Jake Locker
    OT Derek Sherrod
    DE Cameron Heyward
    LB Akeem Ayers
    DT Phil Taylor
    DT Muhammad Wilkerson
    CB Jimmy Smith
    OG Danny Watkins
    CB Aaron Williams
    TE Kyle Rudolph
    CB Brandon Harris
    RB Mikel LeShoure
    WR Torrey Smith
    DT Marvin Austin
    OT James Carpenter
    LB Brooks Reed
    CB Ras-I Dowling
    LB Martez Wilson
    DE Jabaal Sheard
    RB Ryan Williams
    WR Jon Baldwin
    DT Stephen Paea
    WR Randall Cobb
    LB Bruce Carter

    not in any particular order …

    at this point the Raiders can choose from Ponder, Mallett, Dalton, Kaepernick at QB or Hudson, Ijalana, Franklin, Wisniewski on the O-Line

    DB’s Moore, House, Chekwa, Gilchrist & Brown would all be available … as would WR’s Young, Jernigan, Gates & Hankerson

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Carl, NFL.com will have a live draft stream…also try firstrowsports and atdhe!

  • severeraiderz

    R8eray Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Sevrere, I’m just trying to make a case for Matthews…thats all. I’m not sayin take him in the 1st!

    Like the kid… kinda reminds me of Clay Matthews…now wouldn’t that be nice?
    ////////////////////////////////////

    Yeah i feel you and can understand why you are intrigued about the prospect of seeing him in silver and black, but the guy is a marginal player at best in my opinion, not near the talent that Clay was. He is limited athletically, and has trouble shedding blocks, poor ball skills, a liability in coverage, and is really most comfortable rushing the passer

  • Just Fire Baby

    Remember this from Al’s presser??

    “I decided that we no longer as an organization can fight the battle of personal problems for certain players,” said Davis, who blew $39 million on the out-of-shape Russell. “We tried it in the past, we had been successful with some of the greatest players who’ve ever played professional football, and we failed with some of the greatest players who’ve ever played professional football who had personal problems.”

    ***********************************

    Doubt we make any type of plays towards Jimmy Smith or the Jenkins kid from UF.

    Hell, Al may be looking into Wonderlic scores these days more than other teams.

    (Kappy got a 37, 2nd highest amongst QB’s)

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders take Wisniewski at #48

    Next 33 picks are:

    QB Christian Ponder
    QB Ryan Mallet
    QB Andy Dalton
    C Rodney Hudson
    OG Benjamin Ijalana
    FS Rahim Moore
    LB Justin Houston
    CB Davon House
    WR Titus Young
    DT Jarvis Jenkins
    DE Allen Bailey
    WR Jerrel Jernigan
    OT Orlando Franklin
    DT Drake Nevis
    RB DeMarco Murray
    CB Chimdi Chekwa
    CB Marcus Gilchrist
    LB Dontay Moch
    OG Will Rackley
    CB Curtis Brown
    RB Daniel Thomas
    FS Quinton Carter
    LB Sam Acho
    RB Kendall Hunter
    DE Christian Ballard
    WR Edmund Gates
    SS Tyler Sash
    DT Kenrick Ellis
    WR Leonard Hankerson
    DT Jurrell Casey
    OT Marcus Gilbert
    TE Lance Kendricks
    LB Colin McCarthy

    not in any particular order …

    Raiders take Kaepernick at #81

    Good Draft ???

  • Carl Weathers

    77.r8eray Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:46 am
    Carl, NFL.com will have a live draft stream…also try firstrowsports and atdhe!

    **********

    Thanks but I was looking for a website to just read about the players teams etc.

    I found footballsfuture.com

  • Just Fire Baby

    Kappy will not be there at #41 better yet #81.

    I say we will see:

    Cam-#1
    Blaine- no latter than #7
    Dalton – #25
    Kappy – #28 (to the Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
    Locker – #31 (Packers trade it)
    Ponder – in the 40′s
    Mallet- in the 50′s
    Stanzi – in the 70′s

  • Nnamdi21

    Raiders trade up to 17 from NE and take CB Jimmy Smith. No way Smith makes it past 24. Get him Al!

  • severeraiderz

    Where do you guys think Baldwin and Little will go? Both have great size and are good athletes

  • RaiderRockstar

    JFB,

    8 QB’s drafted in the Top 80 picks ???

    LOL!

    that has never happened in NFL history

    I swear some of you guys think this is the ’83 Draft with Elway, Kelly, Marino & O’Brien coming out …

  • RaiderRockstar

    Where do you guys think Baldwin and Little will go? Both have great size and are good athletes

    ***

    I have Baldwin gone before we pick in RD2 and Little available after we pick in RD3

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Draft Fargas!

  • severeraiderz

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 9:59 am
    Where do you guys think Baldwin and Little will go? Both have great size and are good athletes

    ***

    I have Baldwin gone before we pick in RD2 and Little available after we pick in RD3
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    I’d love to take a chance on Little in the 4th if he fell that far

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Why draft a QB? Southwick is in his prime!

  • aig-raiders

    Morning folks and DRAFT DAY,

    Please tell me the owners have opened their doors today. This draft is not so much fun with the lockout this year.

    My wishlist.

    QB, OL and Casey Matthews. Casey is going to be a steal for someone in this league.

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    6hrs. 52 min.

  • aig-raiders

    RRS,

    Howdy? Dont be surprised if QB’s break the record this year. Mayock has been warning about that. Very deep QB draft this year.

  • severeraiderz

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Draft Fargas!
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////
    Antonio???

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    So why the fk doesn’t Condo release his birth certificate already?

  • aig-raiders

    I think old Al trades up today. He’s getting old and not worried about the future. He’s gonna go after Kappy in the first round.

  • severeraiderz

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    April 28th, 2011 at 10:05 am
    Why draft a QB? Southwick is in his prime!
    ////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Of course he is….who do you think ran the draft last year? Surely you didnt think it was Al Davis, did you???

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Beano Cook: “Urban Meyer will coach OSU in 2012″

    LMAO @ Da Suckeyes…

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Of course he is….who do you think ran the draft last year? Surely you didnt think it was Al Davis, did you???

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Not for a minute! But it sounds like the start of a good joke.

    “A Mormon and A Jew walk into a war room…”

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Source: Kaepernick is No. 1 QB on Raiders’ draft board

    Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2011, 12:42 PM EDT

    AP
    Twelve days ago, a league source told PFT that one unnamed AFC West team informed Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick that he is the No. 1 quarterback on their draft board.

  • JLofty

    Wonder what the Raiders are gunna give up/mortgage to get back into the 1st rnd to grab that CB kid. Crazy Ol’ Al can’t help from trying to get hisself a coveted corner….