Barksdale at No. 92
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, April 29th, 2011 at 7:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders took LSU offensive tackle James Barksdale with the pick acquired from New England.
Defnitely a need-based draft. Stefan Wisniewski and Barksdale for the offensive line, which is being rebuilt. DeMarcus Van Dyke at cornerback, a need with the expected departure of Nnamdi Asomugha.
Barksdale is a third-round pick, so there are issues. Plays to the level of competition, lacks this, lacks that, etc.
The question is how he’ll play, along with No. 125, as opposed to the second-round pick Patriots get next year.
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April 29th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
1 NATION
April 29th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
so far so good
April 29th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Positives: Ideal size. Long arms with an even distribution of weight. Versatile player who has only four years of experience at tackle. Came to LSU as a highly touted defensive tackle prospect and that defensive mentality is occasionally seen on tape. Gains good depth on his kick-slide and has the lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Long arms and strong hands to control. Can turn and seal off defenders in the running game, giving backs an easy lane to run through. Shows some athletic ability getting to the second level and, while not nimble, can get in the way of the linebacker, essentially making the block. Legitimate upside. Might just be scratching the surface of his potential and could wind up a better NFL player than he was in college.
Negatives: Lacks the elite athleticism necessary to remain at left tackle in the pros — though he started and earned second-team All-SEC honors as a senior. Has a troubling tendency to drop his head and bend at the waist on contact, which puts him off-balance. Can be overwhelmed when he gets lazy and doesn’t keep his feet moving. Remains a technically flawed prospect who has been able to get by on only his natural ability.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
67.Carl Weathers Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
The Pats also got our 7th this year along with the 2nd next year.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Barksdale’s not bad. Getting big uglies out of the SEC is never a bad thing. Weird trade though. I agree with Rich Eisen.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
espn had a nice piece on barksdale
April 29th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
# raiderman81 Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
so far so good
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
weird trade, still not bad though
April 29th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Maybe he could be a RT or OG.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Curtis Brown to the Steelers…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
i told you guys this draft isn’t a great draft for oline but everybody wants oline no matter who the guy is. so now you have them……
April 29th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Positives: Ideal size. Long arms with an even distribution of weight. Versatile player who has only four years of experience at tackle. Came to LSU as a highly touted defensive tackle prospect and that defensive mentality is occasionally seen on tape. Gains good depth on his kick-slide and has the lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Long arms and strong hands to control. Can turn and seal off defenders in the running game, giving backs an easy lane to run through. Shows some athletic ability getting to the second level and, while not nimble, can get in the way of the linebacker, essentially making the block. Legitimate upside. Might just be scratching the surface of his potential and could wind up a better NFL player than he was in college.
Negatives: Lacks the elite athleticism necessary to remain at left tackle in the pros — though he started and earned second-team All-SEC honors as a senior. Has a troubling tendency to drop his head and bend at the waist on contact, which puts him off-balance. Can be overwhelmed when he gets lazy and doesn’t keep his feet moving. Remains a technically flawed prospect who has been able to get by on only his natural ability.
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Thanks YA, sounds like our best pick so far in terms of value, immediate return, and potential. i just hate that we gave up a 2nd next year for him, but if he plays to his potential we have a really solid RT
April 29th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Barksdale’s a backup right tackle prospect with exceptional size but less-than-adequate athleticism for the next level. Uses his strength to stop the bull rush in pass protection, but has a difficult time dealing with double-moves or edge rushers. Can create some running room by walling off defenders but doesn’t fire off the ball, get a ton of movement, or excel locating targets at the second level. Has good football IQ, picking up blitzers and staying home against stunts, but limited athleticism still causes him to be a step late at times. Developmental prospect worthy of a late-round pick.
Not exactly a rousing report. Rated 4.9 –
Why pick a 4.9 when a 7.2 was n the board. It’s good that we are going OL but let’s pick the good ones. So far, IMO, this draft is rated as a D.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale
Some question marks, for sure. But there’s potential, at least. I hope Barksdale is a better player than Henderson ended up being.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
If you need O-line you draft O-line.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
last couple picks NFL network hasn’t given the Raiders picks the time of day.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
We need oline however, cannin, and boling still on the board…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Would have preferred Brown and Boling to Van Dyke and Barksdale… but time will tell.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Hope we take Marcus Cannon in the 4th with that extra pick. Even if he can’t play next year he’d be a steal ala Michael Bush.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale= scary, not in a good way.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I liked our 2nd round pick, last 2 picks remind me of the DHB/MM34 picks to a lesser extent. Oh well, hopefully Rod and Steve can coach these guys up.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Get a run stopper tommorow… Ian williams
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
in time though
April 29th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
# Thec07 Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Get a run stopper tommorow… Ian williams
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That’s what I’m hoping for.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
20.raideredoutL.A. Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale= scary, not in a good way.
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I’m already having nightmares.
Soup better be prepared to run a lot next year.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Yeah, I find it strange that Wiz is named the starter.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Why Barksdale instead of Boling? I don’t understand AD’s thinking.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
wow i thought Boling was long gone….smh
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I would hope that our scouting department knows better than these draft guys… Hopefully this years class can build upon last years…We will see…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I would rather Avon Barksdale
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Williams, Boling, Greg Jones, Virgil Green could be options in the 4th tomorrow.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
20.raideredoutL.A. Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale= scary, not in a good way.
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Particularly if the Lockout lingers, and these guys aren’t working together.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
JB Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Why Barksdale instead of Boling? I don’t understand AD’s thinking.
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I am hoping they know something we dont…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
you guys are pretty ridiculous.
by all accts Wiz is ready to start day 1. by most accts Loper is a solid enough LG to make Gallery irrelevant. the question marks you have are on the right side as it has always been.
whats the freakin’ problem?
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Screw the nfl network can care less what they think. Worst commentators, analyst, etc bunch of bumbs rich eison and mayock suck, mayock knows nothing about football he’s a book worm.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I would rather Avon Barksdale
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha……ROFLMAO…..
April 29th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
20.raideredoutL.A. Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Veldheer-Loper-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale= scary, not in a good way.
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Particularly if the Lockout lingers, and these guys aren’t working together
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good point
April 29th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I’m worried our O-Line might not weigh enough. Veldheer thin, Campbell thin, Wisniewski thin. Barksdale is better than Henderson right now, though.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
below average draft so far…. big reach in the 2nd, big reach in third, and traded away a 2nd next year to get a a RT in the late 3rd.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
I bet they said the same things about our lt we drafted last year.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
JB,that is why I find it so funny that everyone falls in love with certain players.Davis does what Davis does.Sometimes it makes sense,sometimes it doesn’t,but you can always rest assured it isn’t what everyone else thinks it should be.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
It’s disappointing because players there were some very good players on the board when the last two picks were made… I can only hope VanDyke shocks us all… but I think we’ve been down this road before.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
This Raider draft is permeated with the stench of Al.
Hopefully Wiz will be a player.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I would rather Avon Barksdale
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We got him with the first 3rd rounder. Van Dyke is about the same size as Avon. Don’t know if Avon can run a 4.2 though.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
27.JB Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Why Barksdale instead of Boling? I don’t understand AD’s thinking.
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Because Barksdale’s a tackle and Boling’s a guard. Loper was signed to starter money, Carlisle is still on the roster, Bruce Campbell is going to get his shot, we just drafted Wisniewski, and we need a right tackle because Mario hasn’t shown anything substantial after two years ago and Langston Walker might not be back and if he is he’s not long for the league.
That’s why.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Why does the nfl pick bench press as the only lift. Why not squat or power clean?
April 29th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
If Ian williams is on the board at 17 we should get him…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
504 Raider Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
HairyBush Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I would rather Avon Barksdale
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We got him with the first 3rd rounder. Van Dyke is about the same size as Avon. Don’t know if Avon can run a 4.2 though.
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Would have preferred Shareece Wright
April 29th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Tomorrow the Raiders will probably get a TE and a FS…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I’m not sold on Van Dyke. His speed will be needed to recover because he looks like he can’t cover and will get pushed off the line of scrimmage. Looks like James Trapp 2.0
My only hope is if Woodson can get him to play out his mind.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Woodson has some work cut out for him, for sure.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Davon House is still available!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Van dyke needs to put on 25lbs of muscle….
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I just read that Wiz is 6′3″ 306….he needs to bulk up and fast. Roll should put some weight on him…hopefully he doesnt destroy his hamstrings like he does with every other player on our team
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
a hof player doesnt mean you can coach…aka art shell
April 29th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
29th at stopping the run…Ian Williams would help tremendously….
April 29th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Starting lineup:
Veldheer, Loper, WiZ, BCampbell, Walker
Back-ups:
Barnes RT/TE
Satele Center
Carlisle RG
MHenderson T May challenge Walker for ORT
Parsons OL – practice squad
Schuening G – Practice Squad
April 29th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Maybe we’ll pick that playmaking Safety that was on Raidernationstation.. That Samoan cat.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
504-the kid is 6′1″-the Raiders will put at least 15-20 lbs on him.He may turn out terrible,but then again with that speed,he may fill out and turn out pretty good.Remember the saying-you can’t teach speed.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Wiz is 313. He’s an inch shorter and about 6lbs heavier than Nick Mangold.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I’m going to post Barkdale’s ‘free’ scouting reports. I’ve read 2 so far and I’m liking what I read.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Walterfootball:
Joseph Barksdale Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths:
Solid size and frame to add bulk
Long arms
Very light on his feet
Fluid, smooth athlete
Outstanding technician
A natural knee bender and keeps pads low
Love his balance and body control
Patient pass protector; sits in his stance, not over-aggressive
Displays explosiveness
Nice range and can be isolated 1v1
Reacts quickly to counter moves; good instincts
Understands angles
Comfortable in space
Starter in SEC since sophomore year
Terrific hand punch; keeps hands inside
Fantastic agility
Gets solid arm extension
Moves to second level with ease
Heavy hands
Highly consistent in pass protection
Huge upside and potential
Durable
Great skill set for an NFL left tackle
Weaknesses:
Doesn’t always finish his blocks
Not the most powerful run blocker
A little finesse; might lack a mean streak
Could get more push in run game
Occasionally misses assignments
Lacks some vision and awareness
Summary: I don’t understand why Barksdale isn’t more well regarded as a 2011 NFL Draft prospect nationally, but I really don’t care. I have watched a lot of tape on the most lauded 2010 NFL Draft tackle prospects, and Barksdale’s games are easily the best. He has a very high upside and has the raw talent to be an elite left tackle in the NFL with the prototype technique to boot. He needs to prove he can man the blind side as a senior at LSU, but I think when it’s all said and done, he will at least go in the first two rounds.
I have questions with Barksdale (pure speculation on my part) because he seems to miss a block or two per game, and I’m slightly concerned about his intelligence. That said, I’m giving Barksdale a first-round grade to start the 2010 season and he’s my No. 1 offensive tackle prospect for the 2011 NFL Draft.
Player Comparison: Joe Staley. Staley and Barksdale both have the raw athleticism and high level of technique you look for in left tackles, but they are both finesse pass protectors who aren’t very powerful in the run game.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Waltersports loved barks dale. Played lt in sec. Dude will be good rt. Hopefully. Read their write up, takes thevsting off for sure.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Sideline Scouting:
Joseph Barksdale Scouting Report
Joseph Barksdale
Joseph Barksdale – LSU (HT: 6-4¾ – WT: 325)
Combine 40: 5.38 – Position Rank: 11 of 28
Positives: Good overall size and length… Very solid pass protector… Long arms… Reasonably good athlete… Patient… Very solid initial quickness and pass set… Good arm extension, uses his hands well… Solid anchor… Reasonably good kick step… Flashes good lateral movement and slide… Very solid lateral range… Solid knee bend… Very solid run blocker… Good strength, can control defenders at POA… Can get movement in the running game… Does a nice job getting to the second level… Solid flexibility and body control… Can seal linebackers from the action… Generally keeps his feet moving throughout the play.
Negatives: Inconsistent technique… Lacks good explosion or suddenness to his game… Marginal hand punch, lacks any real pop… Can struggle with edge speed, will overextend and lunge… On the ground too much… Rises up too early and is too upright in his slide… Bends at the waist… Is a little heavy footed and allows his base to get too narrow… Can be awkward changing direction, loses his balance too easy… Lacks good awareness, doesn’t keep head on a swivel, lose game focus… Appears to lack mental toughness… Lacks a mean streak, plays relatively passive with little sense of urgency… Not an especially good finisher… Has talent but may never play to his potential… Similar to Arizona Cardinal Levi Brown.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
LT DAN Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
a hof player doesnt mean you can coach…aka art shell
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Very true, but the game has changed a lot less since the last time Rod played than it had since the last time Shell and Eatman had played.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
FantasyFootballToolbox:
2011 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
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Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU
Barksdale was a standout defensive tackle in high school, but he was asked to switch over to the offensive side of the ball prior to his freshman season at LSU. He obliged, and the move has paid off for both Barksdale and the Tigers. He played in all 14 games as a freshman in 2007, backing up right tackle Carnell Stewart. Barksdale started all 13 games in 2008, and he started all 12 regular-season contests in his current junior campaign. LSU’s rushing attack gained more than 166 yards per outing last year (fourth in the SEC) behind a stellar offensive line, and although the Tiger offense has not exactly taken off in 2009, Barksdale could be the most improved player on the team. He has been instrumental in opening up running lanes for Charles Scott (4.7 yards per carry) and Keiland Williams (5.3 ypc), as well as pass-blocking for Jordan Jefferson. Although mostly overshadowed by heralded left tackle Ciron Black, you can bet Barksdale will be making a name for himself as the 2010 NFL Draft approaches (assuming he leaves Baton Rouge early rather than return for a senior season). It would not be unfair to argue that Barksdale has been LSU’s best offensive lineman in 2009, nor would it be unfair to say that Barksdale is a better pro prospect than Black (who is a potential first-round pick in his own right). While Black is a massive run-blocker, Barksdale is more versatile and better at protecting the quarterback. He stands at 6′5” and 315 pounds, and he runs under 5.0 in the 40-yard dash. He has even been clocked as low as 4.86 at that distance; some impressive speed for a man of his size. Barksdale does not project as a franchise left tackle at the moment, but he has the tools to potentially switch to that more prestigious position at some point down the road. Look for Barksdale to go off the board in the second round of the draft, and a first-round selection is not out of the question if he performs well at the combine.
Last Updated Dec-08-2009 by Ricky Dimon
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April 29th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Terrapin beat me to the punch.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
11.priesttj Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
i told you guys this draft isn’t a great draft for oline but everybody wants oline no matter who the guy is. so now you have them……
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thank u. they all wanted this type of draft and they still biotchin. this is why i wouldve preferred the top dlineman or playmakers at wr. barksdale might be cool but who knows. im not familiar with him enuff to say he stinks.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Yardbarker:
Elite size and strength. A dominant run blocker. Shows a mean streak at times, driving his man to the ground. Came to LSU as a highly-recruited defensive tackle and is still learning to play offensive line, giving him plenty of upside. Weaknesses: Lacks elite athleticism. Will be limited to right tackle or guard in the pros. Struggles with speed rushers at time; footwork is very average and he isn’t always quick to get into position off the snap. Field awareness is still a work in progress; gets caught out of position at times and occasionally looks very ugly, whiffing as guys blow past him. Comments: Barksdale has the potential to dominate at the next level, but he was too inconsistent at LSU to warrant a high selection. He is relatively new to the position, which is reason to believe he could still improve, but after four years his development is somewhat behind schedule. At times he looks great, and other times he looks clueless. He’s a boom-or-bust prospect, and it all depends on how hard he is willing to work to learn an NFL system and master the position
April 29th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
NFL DRaft Geek:
Pros
•Great frame. Height and bulk are great, and has very long arms
•Understands angles and positioning, does a great job walling defenders out of the play
•Does a great job extending his arms, and using his hands to keep defenders away
•Great overall strength, strong at the point of attack, good anchor against bull rush
•Does a very good job blocking into the second level and sealing off linebackers
•Consistent and reliable. NFL Ready
•Great balance and pad level
Cons
•Doesn’t have great quickness, is slow to react to speed moves
•Was much better as a right tackle in pass protection
•Not very aggressive, does not play with a mean streak
•Seems to have a hard time changing directions
Overall
Joseph Barksdale is a very underrated player in this years draft, and I have yet to figure out why he doesn’t get the attention deserve. He has been rock solid for the Tigers for 3 straight years, and during that time has been arguably the most consistent offensive tackle in college football. Barksdale’s best attribute is his football IQ, and ability to perfectly position his body to open holes as a run blocker, and wall of pass rushers while protecting. He quickly gets into a wide set, and extends his very long arms to re-route defenders. He showed excellent athleticism as a Junior, but for some reason didn’t seem to be as agile as he switched over to left tackle as a Senior. Not that he was a plodder by any means, but he seemed to be nursing an injury, possibly overweight, or maybe it was the lack of LSU passing the ball, that didn’t allow him to showcase his skills. Barksdale has a lot of upside, as somebody who is already very reliable and consistent, but still has room to get better. Barksdale is not flashy nor dominant, but he is very reliable and should be a starter for a long time at the next level.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Levi Brown was a top 10 pick if i remember correctly…I know for sure he was top 15
April 29th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
GOtta work in the morn. gnight nation
April 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Lefty,
He’s a 175 CB. How much weight do you anticipate the Raiders putting on him? Really?
April 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
ecetera ….i’ll stop there for now a read
April 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
there used to be 2 guaranteed things in life but I think it’s really 3. Taxes, Death and Al Davis drafting the fastest combine 40.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
I don’t know why this people are surprised by this every year. Al Davis has a different rating system and way of looking at people. He is going to Hit on Some Prospects and He is going to miss on Some Prospects. That is just the way he drafts. He doesn’t play the game of Value, he doesn’t care about getting draft Value, period end of story.
By the way, Just because New England has more picks doesn’t mean they don’t miss on Prospects. How many RB’s and WR’s have they missed on?
Mayock and Kiper got 7 and 8 picks right out of 32 in the first round. If I got my job right less than 25% of the time, I would be looking for a new job.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Lefty,
He’s a 175 CB. How much weight do you anticipate the Raiders putting on him? Really?
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He needs 25lbs min.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
It’s a solid draft so fareveryone wanted Oline now that you have it you’re all complaining. Van Dyke is a solid pick he’s very similar to Routt just more aggressive a lot of yhou thought Routt would never make it.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
van dyke will play at 185-90 max.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
The more i read abut Barksdale the more i like him….the only question is, was he worth next years second???
April 29th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Veldheer-Cannon-Wis-Campbell-Barksdale
We do have 2 4th rounders to make it happen.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Priest,
The same could be said for quarterbacks in this draft. It isn’t great for them either but teams in dire need reached for guys that in normal years wouldn’t have seen the second round, much less the first.
I am not thrilled with the Wisniewski pick but I like it a whole lot better than reaching for a QB that put up his numbers against WAC opponents.
I do like the Barksdale pick. Seems like we got good value there.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Like i said earlier i would susspect the front office knows a lot more about the guys we drafted than we do…
We got trenchmen so I am good with it…
Tommorrow should be Ian Williams at pick 17 in the 4th…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
KK,the guy is over 6′.He could easily add 15-20 lbs.Nobody knows if he will add that weight,but he probably could.I’m not defending or knocking the pick,just pointing out with his height,he could add weight.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
@80, see my 81… Barksdale and Cannon both (if they pan out) are definitely worth next year’s second.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
I am so glad the Raiders didn’t draft a QB. Davis did the right thing and drafted lineman. Besides, the Raiders can’t develop QBs. Tomorrow, I would like to see a WR, more lineman, and maybe a QB.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If campbell cant get it going at guard satele could always play rg
April 29th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Cannon and Ian Williams sounds good for tomorrow!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
r8eray Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Cannon and Ian Williams sounds good for tomorrow!
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Yep and Yep…Would make this a good draft…mostly trenchmen…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
73.KoolKell Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Lefty,
He’s a 175 CB. How much weight do you anticipate the Raiders putting on him? Really?
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Minimum 20lbs KK
April 29th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Ideally?
4.) Clint Boling
4.) Ian Williams
5.) Jordan Cameron
6.) Cedric Thornton
7.) Pat Devlin
This draft would look a lot better with Curtis Brown, Davon House, or Curtis Marsh in place of Van Dyke.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Davon House too!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Brandon Burton (born July 31, 1989) is an American football cornerback for the Utah Utes. He is considered one of the best cornerback prospects for the 2011 NFL Draft.[1]
He’s still available!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
im expecting to see te/fb and lb 2morrow. i hope we get a dlineman but who knows. we definitely have to be active in free agency. i really wanted austin tho.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Enough about Van Dyke’s weight. If you guys were such experts, you would be working for an NFL team.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Only thing i want now is a run stopper…We get williams I gaurantee that we wont be 29th against the run…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Would not surprise me to see Mana Silva be a 4th round pick for the Raiders tomorrow…
April 29th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
# A.B. Paine III Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Enough about Van Dyke’s weight. If you guys were such experts, you would be working for an NFL team.
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On a similar note, if Van Dyke was any good he would have been starting for Miami last season, instead of coming off the bench in nickle packages.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I’m not tryin to sell nobody on Barksdale but clearly he’s a better prospect that many thought.
I don’t like his newness to the position but I do like that he manned LSUs tackle spot …you go up against some pretty heavy talent there.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
And its pretty complementary to say the guy is still learning the position and at the same time say he can dominate at the next level RT
April 29th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
All joking aside, if we get 2 starters on the Oline in this draft it should be considered a monsterous success!!! I know we have 1. Will Barksdale be te other?
Especially since we had no 1st round pick!
April 29th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Why does everybody keep saying Barksdale cost next year’s Second? We got TWO picks, remember. It’s Barksdale PLUS whoever we take at #125 for next year’s Second.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
101.TerrapinRaider Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
All joking aside, if we get 2 starters on the Oline in this draft it should be considered a monsterous success!!! I know we have 1. Will Barksdale be te other?
Especially since we had no 1st round pick!
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i think he will.we could have 2 rookies and a 2nd year starter on the right side. wiz/bcamp/barksdale. doesnt even include veldheer at lt. that lg position is critical. thats why i didnt like the idea of letting gallery go 2 soon. we are really young on that line. maybe we go after gaither or yanda in FA. we still need some depth.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Also, Barksdale looks like a natural talent who’s just had crappy coaching. Enter Wylie and Wiz Sr. Problem solved.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
I say the Pats trade means only one thing….
Al is going for broke, he wants another one, and he wants it bad and he`s betting the bank.
I`m willing to bet if we do get any FA action you see the Raiders make a big splash.
This year or next year is the year in Al`s mind, and most likely all of ours as well.
Go Raiders!
April 29th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Excellent draft!
Mr. Wisniewski is an excellent C/G. Coach Jackson declaring him the starter at center is a solid coaching decision. Al, now will definately not have to pay as much for Mr. Satele & Mr. Barnes to return. If they leave Raiders will sign other FA ofensive lineman to replace them.
Raiders are set at LT and Center for a decade.
Mr. Loper gives us veteran leadership and is still young as well, so we have our offensive line for the next 5-10 years [barring injuries and free agency].
April 29th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Terrapin and Duckie I’m with you I like the pick of Mr. Barksdale late 3rd round.
That we get a 4th to go with it,; should we draft Marcus Cannon, which I hope we do in the 4th we have a two for one.
Barksdale is not a great run blocker, he is a very good pass blocker. That is what the Raiders [and every other team] needs.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I personally don’t get too excited about the draft much…especially after the DHB pick.
Next year is all about the players on the roster now…no draft pick this year is going to make a meaningful contribution next year.
Next year is all about Jason Campbell, Chaz Schilens, Chris Johnson, Stanford Routt and that raggedy run defense
April 29th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Based on the posted reports, in a more normal year, Barksdale would have been gone by at least the 2nd round. I’m good with next years 2 for him and #125. Lots of DL, hardly any RB taken so far. We’ll see about DVD. Nobody gave Nnamdi high praise when he was drafted and it took a couple of years. So far I like this draft. It’s been by need. We’ll see if we picked the right players. I trust the scouts and coaches.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
108.SnB Production Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I personally don’t get too excited about the draft much…especially after the DHB pick.
Next year is all about the players on the roster now…no draft pick this year is going to make a meaningful contribution next year.
Next year is all about Jason Campbell, Chaz Schilens, Chris Johnson, Stanford Routt and that raggedy run defense
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snb, u dont like the oline picks? u have been screaming to build the lines for years now.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
raidergo Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If campbell cant get it going at guard satele could always play rg.
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Plus we still have free agency.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
for pass protection, Raiders offensive line improved.
Gallery was just okay in pass protection, Henderson was a nightmare for qbs & hcs.
Raiders are now going to a power blocking scheme primarily, with zone as a change up.
Mr. Campbell will be a key factor, will his athletic abilities translate into a dominant guard or tackle.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Just saw the Belechik interview.
He did say it was the strangest trade ever, but in the context of it took 6 hours to get done. He said the Raiders midset ALL ALONG was to get an extra 3rd and 4th rd pick.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Mr. Wisniewski is already the same weight as Mr. Satele and 4 years younger, which means he can add on more strength and power [at only 26, so can Samson].
I hope we resign Samson as that gives the Raiders a solid interior O-Line.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Again, if you get 2 good starters on the Oline from this draft it has to be considered a success. Now I don’t know if thats going to happen. I am confident in Wiz. Maybe Barsdale will succeed at LT.
But if you get 2 in one draft, you had a damn good draft.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
If the plan is to start Wiz, Campbell, Loper, Valdheer and Bark next year…..well, at least we can look forward to being in the running for Andrew Luck!!!!
April 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Sorry. RT.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
basically all the players we [as in those of us posting here] mentioned in the 4th are mostly gone: Gilbert, Gilchrest, Franklin, I-Dowling, Pettis, Kaepernick,
re: Kaepernick: btw did anyone else notice that Denver & SF worked that trade to keep the Raiders from drafting him.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
No, well lets put this in proper context. You get a starting Center and a starting RT in one draft and you don’t have a 1st round pick. Getting two starters on the line in one draft alone would be impressive. Doing so without a 1st is super-impressive.
I hope Barsdale shows up. Van Dyke ..we’ll see what becomes of him. I’m not going to prejudge.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
with the Ravens drafting Jah reid, Gaither could be available, giving the Raiders a veteran OT.
Raiders are not done with their line, by any means as it stands we have only five starters, 3 without any NFL experience: Campbell, Wisniewski, & Barksdale.
Mr. Vehldeer & Mr. Loper have about ten games (starting) each.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Armond,
I am neutral on the picks. Don’t know much about any of the players picked and not expecting world beaters from 3rd round picks
The CB that Al picked is typical…hopefully he develops the cover skills to be an NFL pro.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
good solid draft based on needs so far
April 29th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
as for Van Dyke, he has the speed to be an excellent corner, question is will he be a fabian or another doctor death!
April 29th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
If you are not a starter at the end of your college career (Van Dyke), then you probably should not be a third round pick. Should have used the 81st pick on o-line and saved next year’s second rounder….what a waste.
Oh well…..
April 29th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I can’t see Bruce Campbell doing anything as a guard. He’s got skinny legs. With his speed he should be a tight end.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
i think we get playmakers 2morrow. mathews slid to the 4th and that taiwan jones is still there. jordan cameron or wesley saunders at te are possibilities. we also have to get a REAL FB as well. marecic or hynoski im looking at. hyno is more versatile so we may learn towards him.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
113.J Hill Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Just saw the Belechik interview.
He did say it was the strangest trade ever, but in the context of it took 6 hours to get done. He said the Raiders midset ALL ALONG was to get an extra 3rd and 4th rd pick.
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i saw that 2. those fools on the nfln are just azzholes. that trade was in the making for awhile.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Here’s the deal on Barksdale:
He came to LSU as a Parade All-American DT from Detroit Michigan. Dude came here when LSU was stockpiled at DT and DE (Glenn Dorsey, Tyson Jackson, Drake Nevis, etc). One day in practice, Les Miles pulled him from defensive drills because he was just standing there not getting reps and Ciron Black was getting his a$$ whipped by Jackson. Barksdale trots over and lines up and the QB goes untouched for the rest of practice. They thought it was a fluke so they tried it all week and ended with the same result. Barksdale never saw another defensive drill again.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Pitos!
April 29th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Wisniewski -Good
Van Dyke -Early (San Diego better with Gilchrist and Wright)
Barksdale -Good
excellent deal with New England, tomorrow we must improve!
April 29th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Here is a list of 20 Players we should be looking to Draft
*Not in any order
1. Christian Ballard DE
2. Brandon Burton CB
3. Davon House CB
4. Marcus Cannon OT
5. Jason Pinkston OT
6. Ricky Stanzi QB
7. Tyrod Talor QB
8. Greg McElroy QB
9. Clint Boling OG
10. Tandon Doss WR
11. Cecil Shorts WR
12. Greg Salas WR
13. Luke Stocker TE
14. DJ Williams TE
15. DeMarcus Love OT
16. Casey Matthews LB
17. Ahmad Black S
18. Robert Sands S
19. Taiwan Jones RB
20. Greg Jones LB
April 29th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Richard Van Dyke;
Strengths: Graceful; can move around objects such as ottomans while having the sense of humor to say “whoops, I almost tripped”, can make cars fly, nice smile, great attitude, appears to love life.
Weaknesses: Age-he’s over 80 now and no one has been able to document whether he has EVER played football or that he ever had any interest in the game whatsoever. Comedy can be perceived as “syrupy” at times.
Summary: “Dick” is a stretch. One of Al Davis’s strangest picks.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Van Dyke = JLH
An undersized athlete that eventually gets blown-up by the big kids and never recovers. If AD wanted a fast CB then he should just convert DHB to a cornerback. He’s got the size, speed and should know the routes by now. An additional bonus, balls aimed in his direction usually hit the ground. What more can you ask in a CB?
April 29th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
re: Kaepernick: btw did anyone else notice that Denver & SF worked that trade to keep the Raiders from drafting him.
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Maybe cuz they think with Campbell starting, they don’t have to worry about the Raiders being a real threat, or they know Oakland is just a good QB away from being a legitimate SB contender.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
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April 30th, 2011 at 6:05 am
78.priesttj Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
It’s a solid draft so fareveryone wanted Oline now that you have it you’re all complaining. Van Dyke is a solid pick he’s very similar to Routt just more aggressive a lot of yhou thought Routt would never make it.
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Father Pride & Poise you are unabashedly obfuscating again to cover (”cover”, get it??)for this absurd pick. Van Dyke is not aggressive, he’s strictly finesse. But Al will coach him up, won’t he?
October 6th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
easy six pack…
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