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Day 2 underway

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, April 29th, 2011 at 3:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

I’ll be mostly on the live chat, but will chime in here from time to time if technology allows.

I’m currently frozen on the chat . . . Mike Lombardi says Oakland wants Kaepernick . . .

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234 Responses to “Day 2 underway”

  1. r8eray Says:

    1st

  2. YoungAmerican Says:

    Pats got themselves a player.

  3. JB Says:

    Looks like AD is showing some discipline and not giving the store away.

  4. Plunketthead Says:

    What were the fans yelling when the pats picked? Patriots suck?

  5. SharkCatcher Says:

    a 4.4 isn’t ” RAIDER SPEED”

  6. priesttj Says:

    belicheat tried to rob us….

  7. JB Says:

    Buffalo taking a QB?

  8. irjonny Says:

    now it gets interesting. obviously the riaders did not want to give up more 2011 picks to move up. i like it.

  9. JB Says:

    Who’s presenting for the Raiders?

  10. YoungAmerican Says:

    Buffalo goes with Aaron Williams. There will be a QB on the board for the Raiders. Now the question is who will it be…

  11. r8eray Says:

    I called it!

  12. SharkCatcher Says:

    The redhead Kid!!!!

  13. r8eray Says:

    Looks just like Palmer!
    ;)

  14. El Tato Says:

    Kaepernick still there

  15. El Tato Says:

    Willie Brown I think

  16. irjonny Says:

    still got a lot of qb needy teams to wade through

  17. El Tato Says:

    TRADE

  18. YoungAmerican Says:

    49ers get Kaepernick?

  19. RaiderDogg Says:

    I am hearing that the Raiders pick at #48 will be Stefan Wiznewski

  20. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hope to god the Raiders don’t pick for Mallett now.

  21. SharkCatcher Says:

    denver throws a monekey wrench at the raiders

  22. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Damn it.

  23. 504 Raider Says:

    Damn Damn Dammmnn!

  24. olinesux Says:

    i HATE the niners!!!!!

  25. El Tato Says:

    Bye Bye K

  26. JB Says:

    Wiz is not the best choice. Hudson or Moffitt should be #48.

  27. r8eray Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    denver throws a monekey wrench at the raiders
    ——

    Yeah they did!
    lol…… lfmao!

  28. olinesux Says:

    i HATE the donks!!!!

  29. irjonny Says:

    if the raiders pick wiz. it’s an al davis pick.

    mark my words colin kaepernick is gonna light it up in SF.

    no wiz that early imo, sooooo many similar OL later. bowers? mallett? little?

  30. JB Says:

    Maybe AD will just go trade for Palmer.

  31. YoungAmerican Says:

    I wonder if Bowers will fall to #48…

  32. 504 Raider Says:

    Man I hope we don’t take Bowers.

  33. severeraiderz Says:

    Man i we draft wiz at 48 just like when we drafted DHB i am done with the rest of this. He is a 3rd rounder at best and should not be taken above that. Right now my hope is that Daquan Bowers gets to us, I’d rather have Mallett at this pick than wiz because at least he presents value and grades out as a second rounder

  34. 504 Raider Says:

    This also means we are still in play for V Young for our #3 or #4.

  35. J Hill Says:

    49r’s did us a favor.

    All this excitement about a 2nd rd QB prospect was kinda puzzling, imo.

    Now we can go and get a solid starter at S, CB, RT, OLB, FB, or C.

  36. 504 Raider Says:

    Bowers’ knee will be bone on bone in less than 2 years. He’s a wasted pick at this point.

  37. r8eray Says:

    No PLAYERS TRADED!!
    Sorry 504!

  38. El Tato Says:

    Trade back to pick lil Wiz.

    Brandon Harris? Curtis Brown?

  39. SharkCatcher Says:

    If Kaepernick was indeed1st player on our board at least we have some time to scramble and make a decision on who the raiders should take.

  40. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hoping for Curtis Brown, Greg Little, or Ben Ijalana.

  41. JB Says:

    Moffitt, Hudson & Marcus Cannon with our 2nd, 3rd & 4th picks.

  42. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Yes!!!!! There is no chance that davis & hu jack take mallet.
    Lets go o-line!!!!!

  43. r8eray Says:

    If Bowers is there….Al will get him!
    I just have that gut feeling..

  44. severeraiderz Says:

    I have a feeling that we will reach for a corner…the only corner worth our pick at this point is Curtis Brown

  45. YoungAmerican Says:

    Hoping that Mallett goes to Washington before Al even has the chance to think about taking him…

  46. severeraiderz Says:

    04 Raider Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    This also means we are still in play for V Young for our #3 or #4.
    //////////////////////////////

    more like 5th or 6th

  47. SharkCatcher Says:

    the freak

  48. aig-raiders Says:

    Darn Niners and Denver just forked us over. Wow.

  49. lefty12 Says:

    V.Young-LMFAO.

  50. JB Says:

    AD doesn’t have enough years left to develop a new QB. He needs to win now.

  51. r8eray Says:

    Brandon Harris is still available…

  52. aig-raiders Says:

    DaQuan Bowers Al. Do it. Might as well swing for the fence on this one.

  53. aig-raiders Says:

    Got this from pft….

    Think how Kaeperick’s life changed on Friday night. The Raiders reportedly wanted to move up badly for Kaepernick, but didn’t give the Patriots the trade package they were looking for. Instead, Kaepernick is set up for success with Harbaugh in San Francisco.

  54. severeraiderz Says:

    man f@ck the 8th circuit court

  55. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Fuk the 49′rs. I didn’t watn Kaepernick anyway.

  56. r8eray Says:

    Stephen Paea…?

  57. severeraiderz Says:

    Asomugha will be in a texans uniform next year

  58. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    45.YoungAmerican Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    Hoping that Mallett goes to Washington before Al even has the chance to think about taking him…

    ###########################################################

    If Mallet has a drug problem then we don’t need him, but if it’s just an attitude problem then bring him aboard.
    What the hell, he’s got the tools and who has the biggest attitude problem of all?—Al Davis.

  59. RaiderDogg Says:

    I am not making the decisions, just relaying what I am hearing about Mini Wiz. Personally I would rather have Stephen Paea or even Casey Matthews. Although the more I think about Mini Wiz and if he is as tenacious as his Uncle was, I would be ok with picking him in round 2.

  60. jmcclain Says:

    So now the league was granted a stay great back to doin nothin.

  61. RaiderDogg Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Asomugha will be in a texans uniform next year
    ————————————————
    I am hearing that the Eagles are making a strong push for Nnamdi

  62. r8eray Says:

    Priest, your boy Torrey Smith is still available…!

  63. SharkCatcher Says:

    that Tight end looks like the real deal.

  64. YoungAmerican Says:

    Rudolph = the truth

  65. El Tato Says:

    I dont think AD will be able to pass on Mallett

  66. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wonder if the Rams will take Greg Little before the Raiders get a chance to.

  67. JB Says:

    Forget Lil Wiz. He’s NOT his uncle. Besides he’s a ZBS style not power blocking. Far better choices available.

  68. garrettraider18 Says:

    1 choice – Ryan Mallet: Did not think he would fall.

    Groom the big boy with the big arm for the future, which depending on how Jason Campbell performs, may be sooner than later.

    Hate that denver has back to back

  69. RaiderDogg Says:

    Mallett reminds me of Ryan Leaf

  70. RaiderDogg Says:

    Paea

  71. El Tato Says:

    Rams take a WR for sure

  72. YoungAmerican Says:

    Big arm = single most overrated quality in a quarterback

  73. garrettraider18 Says:

    Denver gonna grab Bowers?

  74. aig-raiders Says:

    DaQuan or Mallet, I wonder if Al can resist.

  75. severeraiderz Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    Asomugha will be in a texans uniform next year
    ————————————————
    I am hearing that the Eagles are making a strong push for Nnamdi
    /////////////////////////////////////

    someone told me something that that effect but i didn’t think that they would want to drop more money on a CB after paying Asante.

  76. r8eray Says:

    Marvin Austin?

  77. olinesux Says:

    donks will get bowers

  78. severeraiderz Says:

    If Bowers is there he has to be the pick….even if he sits he could go the Michael Bush route. This guy is Julius Peppers 2

  79. garrettraider18 Says:

    UCLA saftey to denver

  80. El Tato Says:

    I see DEN taking 2 DLs, STL taking WR,… and us taking Mallett

  81. YoungAmerican Says:

    Even if the Raiders get four years out of Bowers… for a 2nd round pick? Could be a lot worse. Might not be a bad idea. Of course, I have no idea how bad his knee really his.

  82. severeraiderz Says:

    Something tells me we take Mallett…from all accounts he is the most NFL ready guy but i dont trust Petrino QB’s

  83. RaiderDebo Says:

    I don’t care if Mallett did drugs. Didn’t seem to hurt him in college. As long as he’s protected and we give him weapons, he should be successful. As bad as his 40 time is, he can’t have slower feet than Phillip Rivers. As long as he produces, I could care less what he does in his free time. That used to be the Raider way. I want Mallett or Bowers.

  84. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol Rahim Moore is a Raiders fan smh

  85. severeraiderz Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    I don’t care if Mallett did drugs. Didn’t seem to hurt him in college. As long as he’s protected and we give him weapons, he should be successful. As bad as his 40 time is, he can’t have slower feet than Phillip Rivers. As long as he produces, I could care less what he does in his free time. That used to be the Raider way. I want Mallett or Bowers.
    //////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Russell being 280+ didn’t hurt him in college, either.

  86. YoungAmerican Says:

    College is not the same as the pros.

  87. severeraiderz Says:

    Hate to say it but Denver is having a nice draft…if they get Bowers for their 4-3 defense they would be the earl winners….them and the Lions

  88. aig-raiders Says:

    oh schytt, Debo and I are agreeing for once. I want Al to swing for the fence. Mallet or Bowers. Can’t lose either way.

  89. The Blackhole Says:

    Mallett!

  90. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Al’s going to pick Wiz at #48.

  91. aig-raiders Says:

    Man, Denver might go for Bowers here.

  92. RaiderDogg Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Al’s going to pick Wiz at #48.
    ——————————————–
    this is what I am hearing as well

  93. The Blackhole Says:

    Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers all these QBs were blessed with exceptional so that they may be great in the passing game.

  94. The Blackhole Says:

    ‘exceptional Slowness’

  95. garrettraider18 Says:

    Orlando Franklin looks like nasty nate.

  96. SharkCatcher Says:

    oRLANDO fRANKLIN does look mean..lol

  97. r8eray Says:

    Damn I’m nervous…I feel like I’m the one getting drafted!

  98. aig-raiders Says:

    OH yeah Bowers or Mallet, go Al.

    If he doesnt swing for the fences, I’d be happy with eithe Matthews or Wiz.

  99. J Hill Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t care if Mallett did drugs.

    ——————————————————-

    You can’t be serious.

  100. garrettraider18 Says:

    YEAH OAKLAND ON THE CLOCK…..

  101. El Tato Says:

    LOL Kyle Orton will have to play DT this season

  102. JB Says:

    Hudson or Moffitt – that will be our #48 pick. LIL Wis is not even in the picture at this point. He’ll be around in the 5th.

  103. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Raiders on the clock…

    Damn Donks just snagged the o-lineman I liked other than Moffitt. Orlando Franklin. That dude looks nasty.

    Please no Mallett…looks like a Marinovich/ Ryan Leaf hybrid.

  104. The Blackhole Says:

    J Hill Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    RaiderDebo Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    I don’t care if Mallett did drugs.

    ——————————————————-

    You can’t be serious.
    ————-
    lol

  105. El Tato Says:

    I dont want Bowers now, we should trade down: Brandon Harris, Wiz, Mallett or other OL later will be nice

  106. RaiderDogg Says:

    holy sh1t Bowers is just sitting there

  107. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    No way Rams take Mallet, he’s there if Al wants him.

    I could accept Mallet. At least it means Raids acknowledge they need a QB.

    Whatever Raids do, they must not reach.

    Trade down, but don’t reach.

  108. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wiz it is…

  109. Plunketthead Says:

    Im on pins and needles

  110. bcz24 Says:

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DRAFT RYAN MALLETT

  111. RaiderDogg Says:

    just a few months ago everyone was saying Bowers would go #1, even Sporting News

  112. r8eray Says:

    tic toc tic toc…..

  113. El Tato Says:

    On the clock…

  114. Buckeyeraider Says:

    I’m getting sick. i was kinda hoping Kendricks might be surprise Raider 3rd. I’d like to get another TE. Maybe that Jordan Cameron kid from USC later on.

  115. SharkCatcher Says:

    that was fast

  116. RaiderDogg Says:

    Gru is saying it’s Mini Wiz just like I am hearing

  117. garrettraider18 Says:

    HERE WE GO…

  118. El Tato Says:

    Whos the 1 in the grey suit?

  119. RaiderDogg Says:

    My people are on it! Props, you know who you are!

  120. r8eray Says:

    Wiz it is!

  121. aig-raiders Says:

    Nice job Al. We got our nasty Center. His uncle is gonna kick his rears all over.

  122. garrettraider18 Says:

    O line is a need. Played guard this year, most natural position is center, natural born leader.

  123. SharkCatcher Says:

    run run run….get those linemen.

  124. severeraiderz Says:

    Im done with this draft…what a rech we could have easily had him in the third round. Im done defending these piss poor scouts and this terrible personnel department

  125. The Blackhole Says:

    We passed on Mallett…NOOOOOOOOOOO

  126. El Tato Says:

    legacy, he better bulks up a bit, we should have traded down.

    Passing on Mallett must have hurt AD

  127. JB Says:

    I’m glad we went O-Line but I think we could have done better. Hudson or Moffitt would have been better choices IMO.

  128. J Hill Says:

    Nice pick!

    Best part about it was he was announced as a C!

  129. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wiz wouldn’t have made it beyond the Pats at the end of the 2nd round.

  130. aig-raiders Says:

    let me guess. He’ll be wearing #76.

  131. YoungAmerican Says:

    Would have preferred Ijalana, but word is the Raiders are trying to trade back into the 2nd… my bet is DB or RT.

  132. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Like I told you, it’s Wiz. No way that Al could pass up the nephew of a great player for the Raiders.

  133. severeraiderz Says:

    I’m out….y’all have fun trying to defend this reach

  134. J Hill Says:

    6′3 313lb C needs to bulk up?

  135. lefty12 Says:

    Nice pick.He’ll start at either C or G-hopefully Center.

  136. The Big Banana Says:

    SWING AND A MISS!

    Could we not have traded down!!! LOL! What an effing joke! Some real nice choices available and then this pick.

  137. The Blackhole Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Im done with this draft…what a rech we could have easily had him in the third round. Im done defending these piss poor scouts and this terrible personnel department
    ————-
    I agree the third round was more realistic.

  138. aig-raiders Says:

    We need to build the trenches to win in this league. That’s basic fundamental football. I’m glad Al went with Wiz as a Center. Would love to see Al trade up for another 2nd round pick here.

  139. KoolKell Says:

    It was pretty obvious it had to be OG/C. I’m happy!

    He’ll get stronger, and how inspiring to play for his HOF uncle. Excellent!

  140. Plunketthead Says:

    AS long as he does not have Robert Gallery arms, I am delighted.

  141. rising raiders Says:

    very nice job being patient and going oline, go raiders!

  142. J Hill Says:

    136.The Big Banana Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    SWING AND A MISS!

    Could we not have traded down!!! LOL! What an effing joke! Some real nice choices available and then this pick.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    Wassup Mayne!!!!!

    Who did you want the Raiders to pick?

    CLEARLY OL, and C in particular was a HUGE hole.

  143. bcz24 Says:

    Now I really think we need to trade back into the 2nd to get Bowers.

    THANK YOU Al for NOT drafting Mallet

  144. El Tato Says:

    he is gonna play G for us

  145. SharkCatcher Says:

    just hope he doesnt turn out to be Grant Irons.

  146. J Hill Says:

    135.lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Nice pick.He’ll start at either C or G-hopefully Center.

    —————————————————-

    Agreed!

  147. SharkCatcher Says:

    Mallet- drugs… I dont care if its just weed…not my qb!

  148. lefty12 Says:

    I love how the amateurs on here get all pissy when we pick someone that wasn’t their ‘guy’.That is why you should focus on positions instead of zeroing in on a certain guy.

  149. MistaBrown Says:

    Rich in tradition.

    Nice!

  150. garrettraider18 Says:

    Michael Lombardi says Raiders are shopping picks from next year to attempt to get back in this 2nd round…

  151. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    If Raids intend for Wiz to play center, what happens to Satele ?

    Is Satele history ? Can he move to guard ? Or is Wiz going to play guard ?

    This also could mean that the Raids envision Bruce Campbell’s future as a tackle, not a guard.

  152. J Hill Says:

    144.El Tato Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    he is gonna play G for us

    ——————————————————-

    Why do you say that?

    He was introduced by Willie Brown as a C.

  153. KoolKell Says:

    Jhill

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

  154. MistaBrown Says:

    Irons was a LB whats the connection?
    ____

    SharkCatcher Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    just hope he doesnt turn out to be Grant Irons.

  155. jmcclain Says:

    Chill people we need a center very important part of that line. I mean crap look at last yr we need a center folks.

  156. garrettraider18 Says:

    With us saying bye bye to Gallery, we needed a guard, glad we got him.

  157. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    140.Plunketthead Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    AS long as he does not have Robert Gallery arms, I am delighted.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Plunk, you are going to regret saying that.

  158. jmcclain Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
    I love how the amateurs on here get all pissy when we pick someone that wasn’t their ‘guy’.That is why you should focus on positions instead of zeroing in on a certain guy.

    ————————-

    good point

  159. bcz24 Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Im done with this draft…what a rech we could have easily had him in the third round. Im done defending these piss poor scouts and this terrible personnel department
    *************
    I disagree. I have seen a few mocks that had Wiz going bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd before we picked. You act like its a DHB type reach. I guarantee you if this kid plays as well as Veldheer you wont be spouting of stupid sh!t like this.

  160. r8eray Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    Mallet- drugs… I dont care if its just weed…not my qb!
    ——

    Yeah…that’s a gateway drug!

  161. SharkCatcher Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Irons was a LB whats the connection?

    ———————————–
    His father Gerald Irons also played for the Raiders

  162. HairyBush Says:

    Wiz=solid pick

  163. SilverAndBlackBleeder Says:

    Young Wiz! Welcome to the Nation!

  164. MistaBrown Says:

    Like the way you jumped on the JaMeatball bandwagon?
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Jhill

    Way to jump on the bandwagon.

  165. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    It was pretty obvious it had to be OG/C. I’m happy!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It was fairly obvious because Al is a creature of habit.
    A center? He’s a guard. He’s played center but mostly guard.

  166. El Tato Says:

    Because our starting Gs are 34 years old and a FA.

  167. aig-raiders Says:

    Dang, Bowers and Clayborne are gonna be huge for Tampa.

  168. YoungAmerican Says:

    I’m just happy it wasn’t Mallett.

  169. bcz24 Says:

    TB just STOLE Bowers at 51

  170. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    There is no way in hell that this can be said to be a bad pick since we are in real trouble with the OL.

  171. Raiders for life Says:

    YEZZZZAAAAHHH, I’m good with this news!

  172. Braveheartraider Says:

    I think we shoulda waited ’till the 3rd and risked Wiz being there. Still, not a bad pick. I see him playing guard. We still need CB & OLB.

  173. bcz24 Says:

    A center? He’s a guard. He’s played center but mostly guard.
    **************
    He is a natural C, and more comfortable there too.

  174. The Big Banana Says:

    Wassup Jhill!! Been a long time.

    I didn’t have any one guy I was looking at. I guess if I had to pick, it might have been Bowers. And I like having Wiz Jr, don’t get me wrong. And we def need OL. It’s just that I’m sure we could have had him later.

    So I guess my choice would either be Bowers or trade down. Mallet? Not sure what to think of this guy.

  175. hendu Says:

    Fellas, relax a bit,Wiz can play BOTH guard positions as well as center,and the draft for us has just started! Im hoping for a corner next,maybe Jackson thinks QB,we shall see! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  176. KoolKell Says:

    Now we can say Veldheer has played his last snap at Center.

  177. Thec07 Says:

    the other forces are at work…
    Oline
    Dline
    Oline
    Dline

    Build the trenches win the west….

  178. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    168.YoungAmerican Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    I’m just happy it wasn’t Mallett.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’d rather have Mallet over Campbell any day of any week.

  179. Braveheartraider Says:

    Veldheer is a tackle. Time to move on,

  180. MistaBrown Says:

    Thec we need a WR.

    Your boy Ford is a 1 man army.

  181. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    If he’s half the player his Uncle was the Raids won’t regret the pick.

  182. Kirk Says:

    Offensive line with out first pick.

    Praise Jesus!

  183. J Hill Says:

    166.El Tato Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Because our starting Gs are 34 years old and a FA.

    ——————————————————-

    Loper and Campbell?

    Or is Al moving Campbell to RT?

    Loper got starters $ and Al is starting his boy Beast Campbell somewhere.

    Carlisle is a backup or gets cut.

  184. lefty12 Says:

    Why are so many saying we could have gotten him later?He would have been gone before we pick again.Besides,if he is the guy you want you take him-period.

  185. Thec07 Says:

    bcz24 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    TB just STOLE Bowers at 51

    +++++++++++

    Bowers is Hard no doubt however he has a micro facture. He may not see the filed this year…

  186. phatcable Says:

    raiders are going to get a QB later on pat devlin deleware

  187. aig-raiders Says:

    Yup, I’m with the camp that picks the guy if he’s there. No need to trade back and risk losing him.

  188. Thec07 Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    Thec we need a WR.

    Your boy Ford is a 1 man army.

    +++++++++

    Big money Brown….What up????
    We need to get a solid veteran WR in FA….

  189. Raiders for life Says:

    Now we can say Veldheer has played his last snap at Center

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You can say that again, this has been a huge need for awhile.

  190. bcz24 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    the other forces are at work…
    Oline
    Dline
    Oline
    Dline

    Build the trenches win the west….
    *********
    Id like to get Paea if we can swing it. Nice rotational guy with Seymour and Kelly

  191. Thec07 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    Why are so many saying we could have gotten him later?He would have been gone before we pick again.Besides,if he is the guy you want you take him-period.

    ++++++++++++++++

    clearly Wiz was at the top of the Other forces board…
    Very solid pick….

  192. severeraiderz Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Im done with this draft…what a rech we could have easily had him in the third round. Im done defending these piss poor scouts and this terrible personnel department
    *************
    I disagree. I have seen a few mocks that had Wiz going bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd before we picked. You act like its a DHB type reach. I guarantee you if this kid plays as well as Veldheer you wont be spouting of stupid sh!t like this.
    /////////////////////////////////////

    This is a DHB type reach. DHB was supposed to be a late first and we took him at 7. This guy has a 3rd round grade and we took him in the first half of the second. Lol veldheer gave up double digit sacks and was a 3rd round div II guy playing LT, tough transition…Wiz has to do a lot better than that to justify his selection this early

  193. lefty12 Says:

    We could still get a G later.Davis values Centers-Wiz will be a center.

  194. Kirk Says:

    Pick more O line, please.

  195. KoolKell Says:

    Big money Brown….What up????
    ______________________________

    Too funny.

  196. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    184.lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    Why are so many saying we could have gotten him later?He would have been gone before we pick again.Besides,if he is the guy you want you take him-period.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You are absolutely right Lefty.
    Also-
    1. There was no way that Al was going to pass up the nephew of the original Wiz and..
    2.The new Wiz is solid..and
    3. We need players on the OL.

  197. MistaBrown Says:

    Like who?
    ____

    Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Big money Brown….What up????
    We need to get a solid veteran WR in FA….

  198. Thec07 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    Big money Brown….What up????
    ______________________________

    Too funny.

    ++++++++++

    Kell, I have respect for all the veteran posters and blog personalities like yourself….

    Guys like you and Brown actually make the blog….

  199. bcz24 Says:

    I think the Raiders wanted Kaepernick. I dont think we take a QB at all, but possible going after one of the FA’s out there.

  200. J Hill Says:

    Mallet? Not sure what to think of this guy.

    ——————————————————

    After the Russell and Marinovich fiasco’s?

    No thanks.

    Satele and Carlisle caught most of my rath last year, so I’m happy right now.

  201. Thec07 Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    Like who?
    ____

    Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Big money Brown….What up????
    We need to get a solid veteran WR in FA….

    ++++++++

    Was thinking you boy chad ocho cinco….HAHAHAHAHAHa

  202. Braveheartraider Says:

    I dont think anyone rated him as high as the Raiders so I woulda waited on the basis that most teams thought we woulda drafted him. I didn’t rate anyone else who was left, that highly. So, not a bad pick, I just think we coulda waited.

  203. big oak boy Says:

    we are getting mick vick jr in the 5th rd

  204. RaiderDogg Says:

    believe it or not Mike Lombardi is right, the Raiders are trying to get back in to the 2nd round and word is that they are targeting Ryan Mallett, with Casey Matthews targeted as the 3rd round pick

  205. J Hill Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    the other forces are at work…

    ——————————————————

    My man Thec!

    Where’s Young B and Armond?????

  206. MistaBrown Says:

    I dont like Chad.
    ____

    Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Big money Brown….What up????
    We need to get a solid veteran WR in FA….

  207. bcz24 Says:

    Wiz would have been gone before we picked in the 3rd

  208. Raider guy Says:

    Build that bully on offense! Reach or no, the dude fits into what they are trying to do. Aren’t you always haring about how systems take precedence over players. What if they are collecting bad asses to punch people in the mouth. Wiz is that.

  209. aig-raiders Says:

    Mallet and Matthews would be too good to be true. I hope you are right RaiderDogg.

  210. severeraiderz Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
    I love how the amateurs on here get all pissy when we pick someone that wasn’t their ‘guy’.That is why you should focus on positions instead of zeroing in on a certain guy.
    /////////////////////////////

    I love it when amateurs who know nothing about value spout off and are happy with the Raiders reaching on a guy with limited physical talent, short arms, bad feet, and who gets overpowered and pushed around far more than he should, because of legacy.

    Getting Value is the only way you suceed in the draft. Insead of reaching on Wiz and trading next years picks to get back into the second, we could have traded back, still got this guy, picked an extra 3rd or fourth and possibly kept our picks for next year

  211. J Hill Says:

    201.Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    MistaBrown Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    Like who?
    ____

    Thec07 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Big money Brown….What up????
    We need to get a solid veteran WR in FA….

    ++++++++

    Was thinking you boy chad ocho cinco….HAHAHAHAHAHa

    —————————————————–

    And he takes the snaps of which WR?

  212. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders dearly needed a OG/C. His Uncle is the O-line Coach & HOF’r.

    They will develop WIZ 2.0. He can challenge right away for a starter job/ or provide quality depth immediately.

  213. bcz24 Says:

    I love it when amateurs who know nothing about value spout off and are happy with the Raiders reaching on a guy with limited physical talent, short arms, bad feet, and who gets overpowered and pushed around far more than he should, because of legacy.
    *************
    WTF are you? You get paid for this? Your amateur opinion is better than ours?

  214. GoodOle00 Says:

    Yay! Good pick Al…

    Welcome to the Dark side. Wizzer a Raider!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_off_season

  215. lefty12 Says:

    Every analyst on TV-everyone of them-said it was a good pick.I’ll take their word over a blog know-it-all.

  216. big oak boy Says:

    thats who we will develope tyrod taylor get your taylor jerseys

  217. Pretty Rick Says:

    Good pick, smart pick, the ideal pick. One if our biggest issues on the line was center and that’s where Baby Wiz will play. He also bulked up to 313lbs so that’s a good thing. We may have something here. Now let’s get a big guard and get the show started.

  218. Kirk Says:

    I love this pick.

    Offensive line is the most important position on the field.

    I’m as happy as a little girl!

  219. David Says:

    Coach is working on a blockbuster.

  220. David Says:

    Ryan Mallett is the best QB in the draft.

  221. phatcable Says:

    wiz was a good pick since most of the best players in this years draft are from the east coast!

  222. big oak boy Says:

    And he takes the snaps of which WR?

    fragile chaz schillens not a big fan of his but he’s better than chaz and will play his heart out for hue jax

  223. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Really like Vereen from Cal. Watched the UNR/Cal game to start the college season. Vereen was the best player on the field that day.

    Stinking Pats got a good RB.

  224. severeraiderz Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Every analyst on TV-everyone of them-said it was a good pick.I’ll take their word over a blog know-it-all.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    Im not a know it all apparently i just know more than you…the only person that was happy about the pick was Gruden because he loved Wiz 1 and liked the legacy aspect of it

  225. Jonesy941 Says:

    only QB i wanted is gone (kaepernick)

  226. hendu Says:

    Hey 210,what the hell are you smoking? And youre source is????? Wiz is a Raider,period!Maybe the next pick will float youre boat! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!

  227. big oak boy Says:

    we need a cb cuz i dont think #21 is coming back

  228. phatcable Says:

    Jonesy941 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    only QB i wanted is gone (kaepernick)

    ……………………….kaepernick is a skinny legged qb who will spend his career on IR

  229. David Says:

    224.severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Every analyst on TV-everyone of them-said it was a good pick.I’ll take their word over a blog know-it-all.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    Im not a know it all apparently i just know more than you…the only person that was happy about the pick was Gruden because he loved Wiz 1 and liked the legacy aspect of it

    Mayock likes it too.

  230. Jonesy941 Says:

    good pick people stop hating that was the most important position of need OL so when they address that you guys whine? really?

  231. Jonesy941 Says:

    id take kaepernick over mallet, mallet is to slow for our o-line that we are trying to fix but guess you guys wanted to go a diff route

  232. Jonesy941 Says:

    how many rounds they doing tonight?

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  234. JONTRAIN Says:

    GOOD PICK. Most critical position of need is the entire offensive line. I say we draft 3 more

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