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Harsh Van Dyke review

At the risk of being the you-know-what in the punch bowl, here’s the analysis of Russ Lande, the draft analyst for the Sporting News, on Raiders third-round pick (No. 81 overall) DeMarcus Van Dyke of Miami:

Van Dyke is a three-year starter & four-year player at CB for the Hurricanes in 2010. He was benched during the middle of the season. He has a lean, lanky frame with some definite growth potential to add strength for the position at the next level. He is a very good overall athlete with excellent speed, range, & quickness in his play. He is not a consistent or disciplined coverage player, despite his physical & athletic qualities. He has great reach, feet, & hips as a press m/m coverage player. He can play in tight m/m coverage down the field, but has very little production on the ball in the air over the course of his career. He tends to guess & jumps underneath as an off m/m & zone coverage player. He is more of a typical, finesse player for his position in run support & as a tackler. He tends to catch & drag-down as a tackler. He will grab & miss or else swipes at ankles a lot. He is not very productive in any phase of the game this season. Overall, he deserves late 5th round draft consideration due to his excellent physical & athletic qualities. However, he appears to be more of a tease, than an actual prospect with potential to develop. He reminds me a lot of a combination of former Buckeye Donald Washington [4th round-#102-KC] & former Bearcat Brandon Underwood [6th round-#187-GB].

Rod Woodson worked out VanDyke and Brandon Harris at Miami.

The Raiders also picked up the No. 92 pick from New England in Round 3, as well as No. 125 in Round 4, in exchanged for next year’s second-round draft pick.

Guess they don’t think much of next year’s Round 2. Or they’ll simply make a trade next year and get back into it.

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  • LT DAN

    1st

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    With a Run Defense like ours, and a penciled necked corner back there, ugh.

  • TerrapinRaider

    KK et al …you know I was paying a lot of attn this year with the draft and football being out of commission so to speak

    But when I just looked up Van Dyke as you have ….you all see undersized …i see a 6′1 frame that has not filled out at 175lbs …thats near skinny …dudes already fast …he’s lengthy …and when he fills out he could really be a physical player. i see the potential. i say this kid goes to 205lbs with that height

  • TerrapinRaider

    “wasn’t” that is

  • LT DAN

    Seems like a bad one kk. I like switch of picks but this guy benched 225 only 5 reps!

  • J Hill

    He is a very good overall athlete with excellent speed, range, & quickness in his play.

    He has great reach, feet, & hips as a press m/m coverage player. He can play in tight m/m coverage down the field,

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    So what’s the problem?

  • JB

    Van Dyke = JLH another undersized speed freak who will get blown up and fade into the sunset.

  • aig-raiders

    Yeah, I can really see Van Dyke get up and press Baldwin now. (sarcasm)

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Rod knows whats up

  • bcz24

    With the 92nd overall pick in the 2011 draft the Oakland Raiders pick… wait for it… Buster Skrine

  • LT DAN

    AIG you are correct how can you press when you are weaker than cat pee

  • JB

    Boling OT/OG – Pick’em Al

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Van dyke. Told ya

  • Carl Weathers

    Van Dyke, meet John Bowie.

  • aig-raiders

    LT DAN Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    Seems like a bad one kk. I like switch of picks but this guy benched 225 only 5 reps!
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    I have no respect for any professional athlete that can’t push 225 at least 10 times. It’s not hard at all.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    But when I just looked up Van Dyke as you have ….you all see undersized …i see a 6′1 frame that has not filled out at 175lbs …thats near skinny …dudes already fast …he’s lengthy …and when he fills out he could really be a physical player. i see the potential. i say this kid goes to 205lbs with that height
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    BS, did you even read the review above? He’s a pansy in the run game. That’s a mental attitude, even if he gains a few pounds.

    Just wishful thinking, and supporting Davis.

  • J Hill

    110.Bauce Rules Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Jhill….traded 2nd next year with Pats….and got a 4th this year…..Al is gonna draft a qb with one of those…..Ricky stansi?

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    So we traded next year’s #2 for a 3rd and 4th this year?

  • raideredoutL.A.

    The draft is a damn crapshot anyway

  • lefty12

    J-yep.

  • YoungAmerican

    # raideredoutL.A. Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    The draft is a damn crapshot anyway

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    … which is exacerbated when you pick players based on physical makeup rather than football skills.

  • Carl Weathers

    How many rounds are they doing tonight?

  • LT DAN

    I like the extra two picks myself jhill. Other than last year we havent been great with our drafts.

  • severeraiderz

    We keep trading away future picks and having to play catch up the next year. Then with the picks we have we are selecting players a round or 2 too early. We are doing the opposite of what good drafting teams do, stockpile picks and maximizing the value with the players that we select.

  • TerrapinRaider

    You must of focused on the negatives above ..it also clearly stated he is good in press m/m, etc

    another pick comin’ up

  • LT DAN

    2nd and 3rd

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Rod knows whats up
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    You would think so, but does that pick look like Rod woodson or Al Davis? really?

  • aig-raiders

    Dear Al,

    Please go get Casey Matthews.

  • Roch R

    118.severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    Roch R Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    We don’t need any more “depth” corners, last year we took McFadden and Ware, and now Van Dyke, I think we’re set in the depth corner dept even if we lose Nnamdi.

    My call you’re going to see Routt and Ware starting this year (by game 3 or 4, CJ will get the nod most likely as vet priviledge) with CJ and McFadden sharing the nickel
    ///////////////////////////////////

    Teams go 4 and 5 wide nowadays….we needed more quality depth. All we had were Routt, Ware, and Walter

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    and Stevie Brown, and Eugene, and Mitchell, heck you can throw Branch in for that matter if a team is going to go Spurrier style 5’s.

    I stand on my point, we’re set.

  • Thec07

    Boling or cannon

  • Carl Weathers

    17.J Hill Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
    110.Bauce Rules Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Jhill….traded 2nd next year with Pats….and got a 4th this year…..Al is gonna draft a qb with one of those…..Ricky stansi?

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    So we traded next year’s #2 for a 3rd and 4th this year?

    *************

    That’s what it says in Jer’s post as well.

  • J Hill

    I don’t know if I like that Lefty.

    I guess we’ll see in a minute who that turns out.

  • LT DAN

    Press coverage in college and nfl is obviously very different and he was only a part time starter. Whats up with that?

  • YoungAmerican

    Boling please. Good god, please pick a football player.

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    K2,

    What up?

    49ers took my hometown hero..b@stards…Is Troy Smith available as a back up? Jackson had him at Baltimore.

    Woodson will ensure Van Dyke is no pansy…especially when he will likely be a gunner…dude best tough, and fast.

  • J Hill

    That’s what it says in Jer’s post as well.

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    Thanks.

    I missed that.

  • aig-raiders

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Rod knows whats up

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    I think Al just told Rod to go work him out. I dont think Rod has any choice. This was a classic Al Davis reach.

    Skinny W. McFadden and this dude are gonna try to play man vs Bowe/Baldwin or the gigantic SD WR corp? Good luck.

  • severeraiderz

    KoolKell Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
    But when I just looked up Van Dyke as you have ….you all see undersized …i see a 6′1 frame that has not filled out at 175lbs …thats near skinny …dudes already fast …he’s lengthy …and when he fills out he could really be a physical player. i see the potential. i say this kid goes to 205lbs with that height
    ——————————————
    BS, did you even read the review above? He’s a pansy in the run game. That’s a mental attitude, even if he gains a few pounds.

    Just wishful thinking, and supporting Davis.
    ///////////////////////////////

    Have you read any of the reviews of Wiz??? Tell me what they say, tell me that we didn’t reach, tell me that he is not misplaced in our system, tell me that he is strong at the point of attack….you can’t say any of these things

  • TerrapinRaider

    watch these analyst praise the patriots for the trade ….but next years 2nd may very well be a very very late 2nd cause the Raiders are going to the playoffs!

  • J Hill

    Any chance Ware moves to FS?

  • Thec07

    Get a trenchman….Boling…

  • severeraiderz

    Roch R Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
    118.severeraiderz Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    Roch R Says:
    April 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    We don’t need any more “depth” corners, last year we took McFadden and Ware, and now Van Dyke, I think we’re set in the depth corner dept even if we lose Nnamdi.

    My call you’re going to see Routt and Ware starting this year (by game 3 or 4, CJ will get the nod most likely as vet priviledge) with CJ and McFadden sharing the nickel
    ///////////////////////////////////

    Teams go 4 and 5 wide nowadays….we needed more quality depth. All we had were Routt, Ware, and Walter

    /////////////////////////

    and Stevie Brown, and Eugene, and Mitchell, heck you can throw Branch in for that matter if a team is going to go Spurrier style 5’s.

    I stand on my point, we’re set.

    //////////////////////////////

    You need more than 3 corners on your roster, i dont trust Eugene, Branch, or Brown in coverage vs. a WR

  • El Tato

    Here we go again

  • bcz24

    Theres your RT

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    Shut up fool…

  • YoungAmerican

    Barksdale!

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Joseph Barkesdale!

  • TerrapinRaider

    OT LSU

  • LT DAN

    I hate listening to these guys praise the pats

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    (that was aimed at Bellicheat…

  • J Hill

    2 outta 3 picks on the OL????

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!