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Day 3 coming up

The Raiders open the third day of the draft with the following picks:

Round 4 (No. 113)
Round 4 (No. 125) from New England
Round 5 (No. 148)
Round 6 (No. 181)
Round 7 (No. 241) compensatory pick

The Raiders dealt their other seventh-round pick, No. 219, to the Patriots as part of the deal which also got them an extra third (LSU tackle James Barksdale) and fourth round pick. Deals can be made with any of these picks except the compensatory pick, which cannot be traded.

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  • Dakota

    Draft McFadden!

  • severeraiderz

    Severeraiderz Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 8:57 am
    Harder2000 Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 8:53 am
    Agreed Severeraiderz, we might have to get aggressive, but both have a special talent! Could use a big, strong fast, reliable WR and Cannon will be a huge steal in a year!
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    Also good analysis of Wiz II, i think we reached by 10-15 spots at least. he will be a solid player and i hope he turns out to be a great one

  • Harder2000

    @ J Hill – If you want a FB i suppose it is a punishing one: Hope for Marecic! He is a mean, mean man! He would be the perfect supplement for Reece in our running game!

  • toec

    5 more O-Line!

  • Gust372

    There has to be more Branches, Barnwells, and Wizneiwskis in there!

  • RaiderDuck

    Gotta love how some draftniks are calling Baby Wiz a reach, and in the next sentence saying that he should be decade-long starter at Center.

    A decade-long starter with a 2nd-Rounder? And this is reach HOW, exactly???

  • Gust372

    You can tell Hue’s in charge, huh? You know he wanted Wizniewski all along.

  • Harder2000

    As you say Severeraiderz, a reach doesnt make a player bad, just means we might have been able to get a little bit more! As you, i also think he will be solid and hope for him to be great! He has the intangibles at least!

  • HairyBush

    Hope we finish strong today

  • severeraiderz

    Draft Boling, draft Cannon, draft Greg Jones, draft Todman, sign TJ yates as a FA when we can!!!

  • J Hill

    Hope for Marecic!

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    Eff Yeah!

    I wanted him in rd 3 but was told we could get him in rd 5.

    I think Reece should be moved to #2 TE.

  • Gust372

    Wizneiwski wasn’t a reach at all. The whole league wanted him. Al had to trade up to get him. He was a hot commodity. This was definitely not one of Al’s goofy legacy picks. this guy was a blue chip.

  • Dakota

    The pre-draft stuff I read about Wiz said he wasn’t very strong and is more of a zone blocker….hope that is all BS.

  • SnB Production

    Jhill,

    Marcel Reece is fast and a playmaker. Al Davis is not replacing him….nor should he. The running game was fine with Marcel Reece back there and he gives the team another dimension in the passing game.

    Why replace the few guys on this team that provide actual PRODUCTION. Tired of all these all potential guys that don’t do jack.

    Tyvon Branch is also very fast. He’s starting at free this year.

    Who cares about the secondary anyway. Its an overrated position. Get a bunch of dogs up front and unleash hell…

  • J Hill

    Also good analysis of Wiz II, i think we reached by 10-15 spots at least.

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    Which means he would not have been available when we picked in rd 3.

    So I don’t understand the reach theory.

  • Gust372

    Hear that? Al Davis is not replacing him. I find comfort knowing that Al DAvis is running this draft. We’re in good hands.

  • J Hill

    The pre-draft stuff I read about Wiz said he wasn’t very strong and is more of a zone blocker….

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    Raider hater propoganda.

  • Dakota

    Jhill,

    Too bad we took Walter McFadden one pick ahead of John Conner last year.

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    I like:

    NT Jerrell Powe
    OT David Mims
    QB Josh Portis
    RB Roy Helu
    RB Taiwan Jones
    WR Terrence Tolliver
    WR Edmund Gates
    WR Ricardo Lockette
    TE Luke Stocker
    TE Jordan Cameron
    CB Cortez Allen
    CB Buster Skrine
    FS Robert Sands

  • Gust372

    Harder, tell me why a team that’s 8-8 and right at the point between succeeding and failing takes a chance on a “reach”? Shouldn’t we be taking the best players possible? Shouldn’t we rack up a couple of playoff appearances for this squad before we start gambling on guys just because of their namesake?

  • severeraiderz

    RaiderDuck Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 8:59 am
    Gotta love how some draftniks are calling Baby Wiz a reach, and in the next sentence saying that he should be decade-long starter at Center.

    A decade-long starter with a 2nd-Rounder? And this is reach HOW, exactly???
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    Means that we could easily have moved back and got picks and still picked him up. The best drafting teams (Pats, GB, Balt) do this and maximize the value. Al thought Sea Bass was going to be a 15 year Raider, doesnt mean that he didn’t reach by taking him in the 1st. Same argument that was made about DHb before we knew how bad his hands were, people weren’t mad that we picked him, it was where we picked him

  • J Hill

    Marcel Reece is fast and a playmaker.

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    Agreed.

    2 qualities that mean squat for the FB positions.

    “He blocks like a WR” – Mike Vrable

  • Gust372

    I don’t agree with Hue Jackson picking Wizneiwski. Hue Jackson should be more concentrated on building a team than upholding some Raider legacy. Come on, Hue Jackson. This guy’s supposed to be a genius?

  • severeraiderz

    J Hill Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:03 am
    The pre-draft stuff I read about Wiz said he wasn’t very strong and is more of a zone blocker….

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    Raider hater propoganda.
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    The stuff that was written about him before he was a Raider???

  • J Hill

    Tyvon Branch is also very fast. He’s starting at free this year.

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    DHB is faster. Hell, start him at FS.

  • hellsbells

    Anyone want the Sands from WV. Could be a keeper.

  • SnB Production

    Jhill,

    If he’s fast and a playmaker…doesn’t that make him the textbook Raider?

    Don’t think Davis is keen to replace Marcel Reece.

    If we can have two 3-techniques up the middle….then we can have a “wide receiver” at fullback….at least with Reece at Fullback we had a top tier running attack.

    The run defense with two 3-techs up the middle was 29th. Let’s fix what is actually broken first

  • Harder2000

    @ J Hill – the reach of Wiz was meant as a possibility to move back and pile some picks as other did — We chose him right away, didn’t wait to hear potential trades..

    But it doesnt matter, he is a Raider and a great blue collar worker, he will hopefully have a solid and great raider career! Starting C of years to come!

    Now – lets get the diamonds of the later rds in the draft!

  • severeraiderz

    J Hill Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:02 am
    Also good analysis of Wiz II, i think we reached by 10-15 spots at least.

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    Which means he would not have been available when we picked in rd 3.

    So I don’t understand the reach theory.
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    C’mon Jhill you’re not slow…its called trading back and getting an extra 4th or 5th. In this draft that would have been huge and we would have preserved our 2nd next year

  • hellsbells

    Guess he was blocking like a wr when we ran ruffshot on the Cheifs?

  • J Hill

    The stuff that was written about him before he was a Raider???

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    He was a Raider the minute he was born.

    Everyone knew he was going to the Raiders before the start of the last college season.

    Propoganda starts early.

    Dude put up 30 on the bench press, but he’s a weakling?

  • severeraiderz

    Hellsbells Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:07 am
    Anyone want the Sands from WV. Could be a keeper.
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    Heard he is a hitter but struggles a bit in coverage….is huge like 6’4″ 220lbs

  • Dakota

    Why is Ian Williams still on the board? What is his red flag?

  • hellsbells

    He played at ND. Lol

  • severeraiderz

    J Hill Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:09 am
    The stuff that was written about him before he was a Raider???

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    He was a Raider the minute he was born.

    Everyone knew he was going to the Raiders before the start of the last college season.

    Propoganda starts early.

    Dude put up 30 on the bench press, but he’s a weakling?
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    lol you are equating weight room bench presses to functional strength??? You lose mad credibility on that…thats even worse than equating 40 times to football speed

  • J Hill

    So I don’t understand the reach theory.
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    C’mon Jhill you’re not slow…

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    Thanks man.

    But really …

    You’re assuming that there was a dance partner for a trade back. AND that some other teams doesn’t jump ahead of us and nab the guy.

    A “reach” to me is taking a guy a full rd or 2 ahead of where he should go. Or taking the 7th best player at a position when the #1 guy is sitting right there.

    15 spots is not a reach, imo.

    And I wasn’t touting Wiz as a player we should draft, by the way.

  • SnB Production

    J Hill Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Tyvon Branch is also very fast. He’s starting at free this year.

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    DHB is faster. Hell, start him at FS.
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    Look, you and others are saying that we have to basically roll with the way the team is organized.

    Al Davis is all about speed and athleticsm. Tyvon Branch is fast and can hit. He ain’t going anywhere.

    Not saying its right…just saying. Perhaps the team feels the coaches are the problem (quoting Lefty) and hence the new DC.

    We will have two 3-techs up the middle, slide Branch to FS, Mitchell will be in the box and Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt will man the corners.

    If the front 7 stops the run and gets the QB, you won’t even know who is playing in the secondary.

    Raiders should never draft another defensive back for the next 3 years barring injury.

    They got enough guys to pull something together

  • Dakota

    Watch it Hellsbells!

    This DB Searcy that the Bills just drafted put up 27 reps….shouldn’t our starting Center do better than 3 more reps than a DB Jhill?

    lol

  • J Hill

    SnB Production Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Jhill,

    If he’s fast and a playmaker…doesn’t that make him the textbook Raider?

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    I didn’t say we should cut Reece. I think he needs to be a TE and yes he should play.

  • Dakota

    I think we should offer next year’s 3rd rounder to the Pats for Tom Brady.

  • J Hill

    We chose him right away, didn’t wait to hear potential trades..

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    Which is why I really don’t have a problem with the pick. If they were that sold on him as the C we need to have, then don’t gamble that he will be there a little later.

  • severeraiderz

    J Hill Says:
    April 30th, 2011 at 9:12 am
    So I don’t understand the reach theory.
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    C’mon Jhill you’re not slow…

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    Thanks man.

    But really …

    You’re assuming that there was a dance partner for a trade back. AND that some other teams doesn’t jump ahead of us and nab the guy.

    A “reach” to me is taking a guy a full rd or 2 ahead of where he should go. Or taking the 7th best player at a position when the #1 guy is sitting right there.

    15 spots is not a reach, imo.

    And I wasn’t touting Wiz as a player we should draft, by the way.

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    15 spots is a reach…we took DHB about 15 spots too early with better players on the board; same scenario with Wiz. Remember all of the calls that were coming in Day 1, do you not think that were getting a lot of calls with Daquan Bowers and Ijalana still on the board on day 2???

  • RaiderDuck

    There goes Clint Boling. Not totally sure we would’ve gone OL for three out of four picks anyway…

  • http://0 Bob Marley

    Bill Polian says studies have shown 50% of 1st round picks fail to live up to expectations, the percentage for 2nd round picks must be 30% tops.

    Considering the failure rate, getting a sure-fire starter with Pro Bowl potential at a position of need is a great pick.

    “Stefen Wisniewski is NFL-ready with intelligence, strength, durability and the prototype makeup to start immediately.”

    “Given his genetic makeup, durability, strength and athleticism, expect Wisniewski to be a top-50 selection who could follow in his uncle Steve’s footsteps as a long-term starter and potential Pro Bowl-caliber lineman.”

  • aig-raiders

    would love to see Herzlich or Matthews on our roster.

  • severeraiderz

    Lol last time we took a a center in the secon….his name was Jake grove

  • SnB Production

    In my humble opinion, I don’t believe the Raiders look at the draft and place as much value in where they think a player compares on other boards….just their own.

    Hence the reach discussion which happens here every year.

    If the Raiders think a Safety from Ohio University is a 2nd round pick….that kid is going to be picked in the 2nd….as opposed to trading down etc…

  • Guy

    Severeraiderz the diff between DHB and Wiz are that Wiz was the best C prospect and DHB was probably the 4th top rated WR. All the higher rated WRs were still on the board.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Browns took TE, Jordan Cameron..

  • severeraiderz

    Like i continue to say, i dont mind us picking Wiz II, i just dont like the spot. He had a 3rd round grade according to most and would have been there in the latter part of the second.