Live chat today at noon: Reviewing the Raiders draft
By Jon Becker
Monday, May 2nd, 2011 at 11:10 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Jerry McDonald will be on hand at noon today to discuss and analyze the Raiders draft and take a look at what possible moves lay ahead for the Silver & Black.
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May 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Da Trinity,
Congrats man. Thanks man but I have no aspiration to be in Memphis any minute longer than 8/19. Enough of tornadoes down here. I miss earthquakes and we are back on the West Coast soon.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
check again
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 am
Avg NFL career is 3 years.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
…… So yeah lets create more Albert Haynesworth’s at the expense of the “FANS” smart guy.
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Bro, it’s not Albert’s fault he got that contract. Blame stupid Snyder for paying him all that money. Albert never forced Snyder to pay him that money. Snyder was the idiot that gave him that contract along with his history of bad contracts with other players.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
This is driving me nuts.My posting problem is back.Talking early on with the morning crew and then it wouldn’t let me post.Now a few hours later I’m back.WTF is going on?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 am
I don’t understand why taxpayers are asked to finance an Owners Stadium, then have to pay to get into it.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
so what do we do with satele? guard? backup center?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Its what the market will bear AIG not what Albert was worth. IMO
Lets just agree that greed is hurting the game on both sides!!!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Taxpayers aren’t asked to finance the building of a new Safeway are they?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:17 am
Satele has a 2nd rd tender.Doubt anyone will give up that.Backup all day long.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Have you ever noticed that most people who own NFL teams have an other source of income?
That should tell you something.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 am
Kell,I’ve just paid for a royal wedding and didn’t get an invite.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:19 am
What does it tell us?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Eddie Debartolo ran the 49ers in the “RED” most of those winning seasons they had in the 80’s.
He was not trying to churn a profit from his NFL team.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Well, as I have been discussing the last two days with friends and fellow Raider fans and Tittles show today on 860am. I think the Raiders had a slightly above average draft.
Love the pick of Wiz in Round 2. Good value and he is a solid technician. He can play Center or Guard and will eventually be the starter at Center. At 6′3, 313, he is considered a big powerful Center. Most Centers go between 295 and 305. Wiz will turn into a good one.
I though taking Van Dyke was taken a bit high in Round 3 but he is a man cover corner and there weren’t many in the draft.
Nice to see them trade up to get big Barksdale (love the name from The Wire) he can play RT or RG and we just have to hope he isn’t the second coming of Mario Henderson. I don’t think he will be…he is more physical than Mario.
NOW, to my MAIN problem with this Raider draft…old man Al passes on CASEY MATTHEWS and takes another CB in Chekwa? Ugh….dumb….dumb….and dumb IMO.
Matthews would help against the run and on special teams and he can get to the QB in blitz packages and could play ILB in a 3-4 and nickel alignments and would immediately compete for the WILL OLB spot in the base 4-3. How many CB’s does the old man need now since Nnamdi is gone? It’s better to load up on LB’s ahead of CB’s IMO.
However, I like the back end picks with the the blocking TE Gordon, WR Moore and WR Ausberry.
Gordon will provide depth and he can block and catch every now and then. He just needs to be coached up. Moore from Tenn is a playmaker and I think he will definitely make the team. Ausberry from USC is a strong and physical possession type of WR and I think he has upside as well. Just needs work on his route running. He will make the team or at the very least be put on practice squad.
Overall a B- draft grade for me this year for Raiders….it would have been a A- if they would have drafted CASEY MATTHEWS like they should have though!
That’s the type of thing that pisses me off with the old man Al and when he decides to value CB’s over DLinemen or LB’s!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 am
We’re taking it in the ar$e ?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:21 am
AIG….bin laden wasnt killed by US. You believe any shhhht sandwich story I see. I feel sorry you
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Eddie Debartolo ran the 49ers in the “RED” most of those winning seasons they had in the 80’s.
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I doubt it.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
DMAC Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 am
I think Taiwan Jones is the steal of this years draft. I know he played in a weaker conference, but the dude has nice jukes, and stop and go acceleration. Made defenders look silly and has the potential to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.
Nice pick Al.
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Has potential but….needs to work on his fumblitis!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
Bin-laden was killed by the Illuminati, AIG.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
The Raiders intend to use seventh-rounder David Ausberry as a wide receiver, but he could be moved to tight end down the line.
“Obviously this guy has room for growth,” said coach Hue Jackson. “I mean, this guy could get up to 255, 260 pounds. And who knows, he might be an unbelievable tight end.” He sounds like a good candidate for the practice squad as a rookie.
Source: Oakland Tribune
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David Ausberry = ex-cowboy Randall Williams or John Madsen?
Nah. If he can’t beat out Nick Miller, he doesn’t even deserve a spot on the practice squad imo
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
Here’s my list of undrafted players I think we should take a look at…
(Not in this particular order)
Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina
Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware
Kristofer O’Dowd, C, USC
Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut
Kenny Rowe, OLB, Oregon
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
…… So yeah lets create more Albert Haynesworth’s at the expense of the “FANS” smart guy.
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Bro, it’s not Albert’s fault he got that contract. Blame stupid Snyder for paying him all that money. Albert never forced Snyder to pay him that money. Snyder was the idiot that gave him that contract along with his history of bad contracts with other players.
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Should we limit the compensation to CEOs in corporate America? How many CEOs have driven their company into the groung or claimed no responsibility for their companies nose-dive and walked away with billions/millions.
Love the Haynesworth contract as example. Do you remember about two years before the Haynesworth $100M contract that he was almost booted out of the league for stomping on the Dallas’ player with no helmet on? Wow, who could imagine that Hayensworth was a headcase?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kell you are pitiful…..birth certificate is obviously a fraud and the osama thing is a farce too. But how does those two things help our situation here at home?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
Taiwan Jones actually was a NEED pick …
Darren McFadden has durability issues and Michael Bush is in the last year of his contract.
Does anybody want to see Jason Campbell handing off to Michael Bennett or Rock Cartwright when DMAC goes down & Bush needs a breather?
NO!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
Most people who buy an NFL team have made millions if not billions before getting into NFL ownership.
Jerry Jones
Paul Allen
They run an NFL team because it is their passion not their primary business. Do they expect to turn a profit, I think any business man would.
Bottom line is the owners take on more risk and responsibility than the players do in the overall business aspect of running an NFL franchise.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
da trinity Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
all I know is if namdi leaves his jersey will do you half priced and best believe I’m gonna get one.
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If Nnamdi signs elsewhere, I’ll sale you mines.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
FA targets:
OG Harvey Dahl
OG/OT Marshall Yanda
DT Barry Cofield
DE Dave Ball
DE Jayme Mitchell
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Santana Moss
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 am
Yeah Kell sure some Navy Seals finally found him after 10 years. Buried him at sea becuz they could find no one to care for the body lol. Boy how dumb are you sheeple
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 am
I’ll take Devlin & Tolzien!
Kyle Boller sucks …
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
Bottom line is the owners take on more risk and responsibility than the players do in the overall business aspect of running an NFL franchise.
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So?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
4.aig-raiders Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
…… So yeah lets create more Albert Haynesworth’s at the expense of the “FANS” smart guy.
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Bro, it’s not Albert’s fault he got that contract. Blame stupid Snyder for paying him all that money. Albert never forced Snyder to pay him that money. Snyder was the idiot that gave him that contract along with his history of bad contracts with other players.
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Who’s fault is it that Shanahan came in and destroyed a top-10 D by switching to the 3-4, thereby ailenating Washington’s best and highest paid defensive player and rendering a very good pass rusher in Andre Carter useless?? SilverandBlack, you are an idiot sheep!!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
youngamerican
sounds good to me, sign them all. i would also like to gat john kuhn, or vonta leach to block downhill and pass protect
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Rockstar
Are they ecstatic in Podunk today, about O-Bama getting O-Sama?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Agreed with YA …
I’ll take Ian Williams & Cedric Thornton, too.
competition for Desmond Bryant & old man Henderson
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
“Should we limit the compensation to CEOs in corporate America”
If the NFL was ran like a major corporation Al Davis would have been forced to step down many years ago by the stock holders, so your comparison is not realistic.
“Do you remember about two years before the Haynesworth $100M contract that he was almost booted out of the league for stomping on the Dallas’ player with no helmet on? ”
Again it was what the market will bear not what the player was worth! My point is proven yet again!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
*get lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 am
when do we here about the stay from the appeals court? heard it might be today. anyone know?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Lol 666…..those owners are greedy as hell and so are people in the nflpa…..but its fact owners were pulling some shady bs to cause the lockout. I feel no ppity for them
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Are they ecstatic in Podunk today
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Kell,
it’s turkey season. Everybody in Podunk is ecstatic regardless of what happens with politics
OBL got what he deserved, though. USA! USA! USA!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Aig, I work out of the city of industry station in cali
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
RaiderDeblow
You cant read AGAIN!
Wow your ignorance is blinding!
Go back and read again the previous posts before ignorantly spew hate at me for the sake of being a hater.
I said it was what the market will bear not what the player was worth….how the hell does that have anything to do with Shanahan ruining the defense Einstein?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Al not gonna get Ian Williams…he gonna want the workout warrior Blaine Sumner if he choose to sign a NT
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Kell,
it’s turkey season. Everybody in Podunk is ecstatic regardless of what happens with politics
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Politics?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
B,
Wassup wit it.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Lol RRS….yup coincidence it was on May Day hahahahahahahahaha
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
UDFA’s Deunta Williams & Ricardo Lockette should be on the list, too
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Bauce drools
“I feel no ppity for them”
I was not showing pity or taking sides just observing that a 60-40 split is more than fair and there should not be a lockout happening right now.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Dmac….sup bruh? Man just chillin….where da grapes?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
I was going to ask you the same ?????
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am
I never drool buddy unless a super bad bz is near…..you must still be on scholarship
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am
Resign huff and namdi. Get C.Johnson, sign Rocky Mocintosh lb, sign any guard better then loper, sign either Atlanta rt free agent (forgot his name) or gaither and that ladies and gentleman would make a playoff team
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
FA targets:
OG Harvey Dahl
OG/OT Marshall Yanda
DT Barry Cofield
DE Dave Ball
DE Jayme Mitchell
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Santana Moss
no santana moss please he was a steroid guy and still wasnt that good
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
UDFA’s Deunta Williams & Ricardo Lockette should be on the list, too
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Noted. Hard to believe Williams went undrafted, when pre-draft he was being talked about as one of the top five prospects in a thin safety class.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
I only include Moss because of his extensive experience with Al Saunders. He wouldn’t be getting many snaps anyway with Ford, Murphy, Moore, possibly Chaz, and the obligatory snaps that DHB is going to get.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
nobody drafted Danny Aiken, the best long snapper of this draft class!
no doubt BSJ was upset when we selected Ausberry at #241
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
da trinity Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:38 am
Resign huff and namdi. Get C.Johnson, sign Rocky Mocintosh lb, sign any guard better then loper, sign either Atlanta rt free agent (forgot his name) or gaither and that ladies and gentleman would make a playoff team
that sounds nice if we could get half of that i would be happy
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Santana Moss? Lol. Chad Johnson will be your number 1 wr
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Beecher Kell is even more delusional than before if ya can believe that
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
DHB is our no. 1 WR whether you like it or not. get that thru your head
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Do not sign huff or nnamdi…..their time is up. Moveon.com
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Bauce drools
Let me get this straight….its not “ok” for liberals to have conspiracy theories as to the demolition of the twin towers….but is perfectly “ok” for the republicans to create conspiracy theories about weather or not that was the real Bin laden killed last night?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
santana moss would be rotational and we are probably cutting or trading murphy. need a vet for sure and he fits
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
DHB IS NOT OUR NUMBER 1. Did you not notice how he was demoted midway thru the year. He hasnt produced. Currently Chaz Ford and Murphy are more productive
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Murph ain’t going no where.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Chad Johnson will be your number 1 wr
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BAUCE,
I don’t think #85 is in our plans.
DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens, Moore
and you’ve got Ausberry competing with Nmiller, Adeniji & Bodiford for the 6th WR job, if we even keep a sixth
Hue Jax said that DHB is capable of an 8-catch, 228 yard, 3 TD game … remember? He said “it’s coming”
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
42.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
RaiderDeblow
You cant read AGAIN!
Wow your ignorance is blinding!
Go back and read again the previous posts before ignorantly spew hate at me for the sake of being a hater.
I said it was what the market will bear not what the player was worth….how the hell does that have anything to do with Shanahan ruining the defense Einstein?
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If it’s about what the market will bear, why use Haynesworth as an example? What about the Mannings, Tom Brady, or even Nnamdi? Because you’re a sheep that eats up all the garbage spoon fed to you about Haynesworth by the media. Come up with an original thought for once in your life, and I’ll get off your back. And no, I don’t mean anything like your take last week that what players did in college rarely translates to the pros. Where the hell did you get that stupid idea? Peter King, Mike Mayock? Give me a break!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Yawwwwwwn Murphy is not getting cut or traded. Where do you guys get this from? Santana sucks and Al will not sign him siince we already got little WRs. Vet he needs and wants is chad
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Just checked over at Kane and Assoc.
Appears you still have zero sales, Krappy!
Worse yet you don’t even have one listing??
Not even one?
Aren’t you embarrassed to just sit around, checking your drawers for mishaps, while your wife works?
No weak retort here will justify you asking the wife for allowance money, while telling her you tried really hard to get some listings, but it’s been “slow” for the last two years, when everyone here knows while shes working, you are blogging.
Come on Krap Krap. You need to man up, you deranged old knob.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
I see a lot of the blog personalities bought the osama bin laden story…..
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
DHB IS NOT OUR NUMBER 1. Did you not notice how he was demoted midway thru the year.
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the only 2 games DHB didn’t start last year were Weeks 11 & 12 after the bye week. Both losses
no doubt Al Davis remembers that
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
If Chad comes on board, I wonder how much he’d have to pay DHB for #85.
I don’t think Chad is coming, though. I’m not sure Al is in the market for an aging WR with a big mouth and a me-first attitude.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Ausberry? lol practice squad material. Moore is going to the practice squad as well. Schilens is milk bone. 85 is totally in the plans. Raiders need a vet who understands how to beat defenses
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
irjonny Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
santana moss would be rotational and we are probably cutting or trading murphy. need a vet for sure and he fits
before we got ford he was our only bright spot so now we are trading him
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Al-ciada = Mossad = CIA = MI5 = FBI = MI6 = KGB
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
RRS go look at the last 7 games of the year….watch the number of snaps dhb got
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
I think I’m cool with this draft. Still a little pissed that Al passed on Mason Foster. All the kid do was stuff the run and lead the nation in tackles. I guess Goethal gets the nod at starting.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
24.Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kell you are pitiful…..birth certificate is obviously a fraud and the osama thing is a farce too. But how does those two things help our situation here at home?
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I’m sure there are plenty of folks in New York and Washington DC that could give you a little insight on how his death was beneficial.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Lol DHB should be paying chad to take 85
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
DHB (hamstring) & Nnamdi (ankle) both sat when we faced Pittsburgh last year!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
We will be getting a vet however, JLH should be on suicide watch….
Moore is going to cut into Murphy and DHB time…
Guy has nice hands…
Schallens needs to get vit D supplements…
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 am
I believe you, Bauce, about Krappy being loopy.
Living in a dumpy apt, sitting around in pink pantaloons, going from blog to blog, hoping the Mrs won’t notice the microwaved mac and cheese are leftovers would put anyone over the edge.
Today he’s bringing out the big guns.
Mashed hot pockets!
I am worried about the old buzzard, though.
No recent sightings of plagiarized posts from Bleachers, or postings of the Raiders record for the last seven years!
You are right. He’s slipping!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
Ed Teach…..does he fraud death help the economy? Does it help the death happening now on the streets of America?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
deblow
You sure are a hateful person with absolutely nothing to prove except showing your anger. I must have hit a nerve, don’t worry I am not trying to hurt your little chat feelings.
“What about the Mannings, Tom Brady, or even Nnamdi”
DUH Nnamdi and manning have not signed new contracts yet because there is a LOCKOUT. Maybe someone should spoon feed you some common sense.
also your “Phil Simms take on the QB’s drafted was way off, so I hope you are not vying for a Peter King, Mike Mayock position, SHEEP.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
“The way things work in the real world is….whoever has the most to lose or whoever bears more responsibility has a greater financial reward.”
&
“If the NFL was ran like a major corporation Al Davis would have been forced to step down many years ago by the stock holders, so your comparison is not realistic.”
One post you are saying that the NFL should be run like the “really world” and the next it should not?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Not sure what you mean about a fraud death, Beauce. Where are you getting that information?
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
joke:
u.s. special forces run out of ammo while in firefight
1st trooper: “like a good neighbor state farm is there”
2nd trooper: “…with chuck norris”
Bin Laden: “Ahhhh F*CK!!”
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Lol DHB’s phantom hamstring injury again eh? Come on RRS. He was outplayed by murphy and ford by far and Al and company saw it
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
edward teach Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
24.Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Kell you are pitiful…..birth certificate is obviously a fraud and the osama thing is a farce too. But how does those two things help our situation here at home?
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I’m sure there are plenty of folks in New York and Washington DC that could give you a little insight on how his death was beneficial.
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How becuase he was the “mastermind” behind 911?
Or better yet he is the “leader” of Al-CIAda???
guys living in caves traveling via donkeys, we hae 220 level satalites photograhing every thing that moves on planet earth and it takes 10 years……Right…
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
If Chad comes on board, I wonder how much he’d have to pay DHB for #85.
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$100 for every catch he made wearing that number last season.
$2,600 to DHB’s favorite local charity
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Ed Teach…..no damn navy seals did schit ok. That dude was not killed May 1, 2011. Story is bs and if you believe the media then ur nuts
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Well, as I have been discussing the last two days with friends and fellow Raider fans and Tittles show today on 860am. I think the Raiders had a slightly above average draft.
Love the pick of Wiz in Round 2. Good value and he is a solid technician. He can play Center or Guard and will eventually be the starter at Center. At 6′3, 313, he is considered a big powerful Center. Most Centers go between 295 and 305. Wiz will turn into a good one.
I though taking Van Dyke was taken a bit high in Round 3 but he is a man cover corner and there weren’t many in the draft.
Nice to see them trade up to get big Barksdale (love the name from The Wire) he can play RT or RG and we just have to hope he isn’t the second coming of Mario Henderson. I don’t think he will be…he is more physical than Mario.
NOW, to my MAIN problem with this Raider draft…old man Al passes on CASEY MATTHEWS and takes another CB in Chekwa? Ugh….dumb….dumb….and dumb IMO.
Matthews would help against the run and on special teams and he can get to the QB in blitz packages and could play ILB in a 3-4 and nickel alignments and would immediately compete for the WILL OLB spot in the base 4-3. How many CB’s does the old man need now since Nnamdi is gone? It’s better to load up on LB’s ahead of CB’s IMO.
However, I like the back end picks with the the blocking TE Gordon, WR Moore and WR Ausberry.
Gordon will provide depth and he can block and catch every now and then. He just needs to be coached up. Moore from Tenn is a playmaker and I think he will definitely make the team. Ausberry from USC is a strong and physical possession type of WR and I think he has upside as well. Just needs work on his route running. He will make the team or at the very least be put on practice squad.
Overall a B- draft grade for me this year for Raiders….it would have been a A- if they would have drafted CASEY MATTHEWS like they should have though!
That’s the type of thing that pisses me off with the old man Al and when he decides to value CB’s over DLinemen or LB’s!!
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Raiders need a vet who understands how to beat defenses
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Since when has “what the Raiders need” and “what the Raiders do” been the same thing?
Moore will make the 53-man roster and the coaches will find a way to use him. If Al drafts a WR, he doesn’t do it so the coaches can practice squad him. He’d sooner put Stevie Brown back on the practice squad.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Guys with box cutters take over a plane….Right…
Oh and burning jet fuel can melt reinforced concrete and steel….Scientifically impossible…..Right…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thec…..exactly. The upper elite laugh at Americans who get all patriotic over bs. Now this clown BO will be seen as great
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Beauce,
Still wondering where your information comes from.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Ed Teach…..no damn navy seals did schit ok. That dude was not killed May 1, 2011. Story is bs and if you believe the media then ur nuts
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Typically from most of the shepple Bruh….They wont
get it until they are led away in chains….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
joke:
u.s. special forces run out of ammo while in firefight
1st trooper: “like a good neighbor state farm is there”
2nd trooper: “…with chuck norris”
Bin Laden: “Ahhhh F*CK!!”
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Osama bin Laden’s body was taken out to sea and dumped in the North Arabian Sea from the deck of the USS Carl Vinson (pictured below) … officials have confirmed.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thec…..exactly. The upper elite laugh at Americans who get all patriotic over bs. Now this clown BO will be seen as great
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Americans are the dumbest people on the planet bar none…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Got it off TMZ….sorry no pic!
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
YA….they have been ignoring getting a real Vet wr who is worth a damn. Its about time and Al wants an explosive offense. Moore is going to PS unless Chaz is done
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
DHB’s phantom hamstring injury again eh? Come on RRS. He was outplayed by murphy and ford by far and Al and company saw it
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Darrius is a work in progress. I think he’ll be fine
If he doesn’t prove to be starting WR (again) this year, he’ll be surpassed by Ford, Schilens or Moore
He’ll have every opportunity to shine or flop, though.
Odd coincidence?
Russell started 25 games before the Raiders officially declared him a bust and decided to move on.
How many games has DHB started in his first 2 seasons? 25
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
FA targets:
OG Harvey Dahl
OG/OT Marshall Yanda
DT Barry Cofield
DE Dave Ball
DE Jayme Mitchell
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Santana Moss
FB Lawrence Vickers
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thec…..exactly. The upper elite laugh at Americans who get all patriotic over bs.
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How would you know what the “upper elite” laugh at?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Lets say this character Osama bin laden was a real entity, was it true that his father and Bush Sr had business ventures togather?
Was it also true that this mythical person was trained by CIA???
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Thec
It was the Illuminati who brought down the World Trade Centers.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
R8eray…..the same officials who claimed that one video of Osama admitting he did 9/11 when in fact it wasnt? Same officials on Warren Commission?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
JLH should be on suicide watch
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Thec,
Higgins is a free agent.
just like Nnamdi Asomugha, Robert Gallery & Bruce Gradkowski
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Moore is going to be your #1…. We can bring in a vet however, the young man has it….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Kell….anyone laughs at someone they trick into believing a lie. Duh
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Thec
It was the Illuminati who brought down the World Trade Centers.
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Actually Kell it was Mossad…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Moore our number 1?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Kell….anyone laughs at someone they trick into believing a lie. Duh
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Yup. You’re soooooooo stoopid. lmao.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Ford will be our #1
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Who knows…..Moore may make 53 man roster if we keep 6 wrs….but starting off top? Doubt it for a 5th rounder
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Actually Kell it was Mossad…
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Wasn’t it the Masons?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Kell….you are in here bragging about Barry lol. You have nerve
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Thec…..dont you get it? Kell is a sellout. He knows what is going on but is doing his job as a good soldier
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Dow Jones 12821.44
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
DMAC Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Ford will be our #1
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That was last years prediction Bruh….
This year I am predicting Moore will rise above DHB
and Schallens…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
To be # 1?
Crazy!
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Stocks, dollar up after news bin Laden killedReuters(Mon 3:54AM EDT)
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
I guess people just forget about the US LYING ABOUT OSAMA ADMITTING HE DID 9/11 ON VIDEO
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Who knows…..Moore may make 53 man roster if we keep 6 wrs….but starting off top? Doubt it for a 5th rounder
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Barring Injury the kid has the hands and the Speed to preempt all our WR’s sans Ford…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
The ? is can he run routes and gain seperation at the line?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Lol Kell the big elitist promoting his big buddies lies about the dollar
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
@666. Owners don’t suffer this.
Dave Duerson had brain damage
Before Dave Duerson shot himself in the chest, he left a note asking that his brain be studied for clues to whether brain damage suffered during his NFL career had contributed to his depression, headaches and other health problems. The Boston University center that studies athletes’ brains now says Duerson did, in fact, have the brain damage he suspected.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
DMAC Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
To be # 1?
Crazy!
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DMAC, you had 1 person on this blog saying JFORD would do anything when he was drafted…I got called crazy then however, check the ballistics Bruh… I called JFORD, and now I am calling DMOORE…
As a matter of fact from this years draft class DMOORE will be the best Value/ roud draft pick this year.
Furthermore, DMOORe will be in the running against Wiz for Rookie Of the NATION….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Moore may be alright but as number 1 wr in 2011? Doubt it. Hue and Chad are like family and we need and want a vet WR
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Lol Kell the big elitist promoting his big buddies lies about the dollar
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I don’t think you know much about the “dollar” lol.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
DMAC Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
The ? is can he run routes and gain seperation at the line?
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Yep, and Yep….
Question when you say number 1 what do you mean?
I speaking from a postion perspective not #1 in production….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Cool.
I’m going w/ Taiwan. He’s a GAMER. Thats if he sees the field.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Thec did call ford correctly but even so to say a fifth rounder is a number one possession wr at 5′11 194 in our offense is a stretch
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Thanx for clearing that. Got you.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Lol Kell i know alot about it….more than you evidently lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:20 pm
CHAD,Murphy ,Ford, Dhb, Chaz and Moore? Without chad who is your reliable guy? Chaz? lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
DMOORE, JFORD, and LMURPHY….Sprinkle in some DHB and Schallens…. I want a vet WR…If we can get A good one on the cheap would pull the trigger. Although CJ still has some life left not sure I want the guy and all he brings as a distraction to this young team….
Saving grace is Big Sey beating the hell outta him….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Russell started 25 games before the Raiders officially declared him a bust and decided to move on.
How many games has DHB started in his first 2 seasons? 25
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Too bad eight or Nine of those starts overlapped with JR’s and got him canned. When DHB starts, it’s a 10 vs 11 game. Poor JR.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Predictions anyone?
Will B. Campbell be starting on the line this season?
I say yes.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Will he be any good?
I say yes.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RON? Well for 2011 we better hope its Barksdale or Wiz
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
DMAC Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Predictions anyone?
Will B. Campbell be starting on the line this season?
I say yes.
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Yes…Should have got some shine last year…
Cable is an idiot….
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Later peoples!
Gotta run.
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
F_uck it! Go Sharks!
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RON? Well for 2011 we better hope its Barksdale or Wiz
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Yeah you know I had to hedge and throw wiz in the mix…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I am out to gotta get back to it….
1 NATION…
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Now a word about draft grades.
I have nothing against my peers grading drafts. It’s harmless fun. Like mock drafts, grading drafts has become a spring tradition that fills space and, I suppose, generates good talk show fodder. There’s a difference in the two, though. When you do a mock draft, you’re predicting who each team is going to pick … presumably based on some knowledge you’ve gleaned though some people you know in different organizations. But when you grade a draft, at least when I graded drafts in the past, I always felt I wasn’t qualified in any way to do so, because I just didn’t know the players beyond the top ones well at all.
I looked back Sunday night to the 2006 draft, and the grades handed out in the days after the draft. I always considered two writers to be the best, and the toughest, at this: our own Paul Zimmerman and Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News. And after the 2006 draft, Dr. Z and Goose gave A grades to Arizona, praising the drafting of Matt Leinart, Deuce Lutui, Gabe Watson and Leonard Pope. It’s five years later. Leinart was a disaster, Pope barely passable for three seasons, Watson a part-time starter. The only player sure to be on the Cards now, five seasons later, is starting guard Lutui.
Gosselin spends three months learning these players and getting the scoop on 300 of them every winter and spring. He’s the best. I just don’t think it’s very easy, or very logical, to grade teams before players have had their first practice with their new teams.
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Peter King annoys me sometimes, but he’s been on fire the last couple of months.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
You need a vet wr thec…..moore and ford got some talent but they dont under the ins and outs of playing WR yet. Chad is the guy
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Lol JR IS A LOSER DEBO…..career over next is jail
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
BR IS A LOSER next is jail
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
KK is a 60 year old man that acts like a 15 yr old girl with a yeast infection.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Pres purp lips has done one good thing in 2.5 years but GW laid down the groundwork for him.
Not exactly a glowing record, right KK ?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Kell shut up……your craptastic prez Barry is a joke that leads you on with lame speeches and 22 ft jump shots. Hey what did BO THINK OF THE DRAFT? LOL
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
BO = GWB
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
No mista…..BO produced his birth certificate so relax and be prepared to vote in 2012 for democraps
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
BO=GWB….explain
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Prez Body Odor will now get more serious with Syria and other mideast nations when Americans are suffering harder day by day lol. Unbelieveable. Change? No we wont
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
BO waited 2 years to produce his birth cert and then proceeded to say we dont need any distractions.
Cause the distraction and then speak against it….way to go Hussein!
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Same basic policies. The only thing BO did that GWB wouldn’t was the health care bill, and all that did was hand over millions of Americans to insurance companies. Gitmo is still open for business, no end to domestic spying, is going to keep a permanent military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, panders to big business, no accountability on human rights, hires lobbyists, let BP trash the Gulf with no repercussions… and so on.
All a two-party system does is ensure that the same goons hold the power no matter what.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
BO the transparency pres that hides his birth cert and college transcripts.
lmao
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MB, care to show us your college transcripts?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
BrownStains
Are they celebrating Prez O-Bama in the trailer park today?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Some real dumb bozos on here today, but time for some facts, make of them as you will.
From Google Earth, bin Laden was killed outside an ex British army base in Abbottābad Pakistan, check out the street names, Hospital St, Club Rd, Pine View Rd. WTF
The Bin Laden compound can be found on Google Earth at cords 34 10 43 N 73 14 34 E
Check whats written in English on a hill a few miles from his house at cords 34 8 31 N 73 14 7 E
The motto of the Pakistani Frontier Force Regiment.
Talk about hiding in plan site.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Why, did I announce that I’m running for pres?
Right out of the libtard handbook, deflect by asking the same question.
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YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
MB, care to show us your college transcripts?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Same basic policies.
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The Big Diff is economic policy and the results of such.
Democrats = Balanced Budgets & Growth
Repugnants = Deficets & Recession. Trickledown.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
# MistaBrown Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Why, did I announce that I’m running for pres?
Right out of the libtard handbook, deflect by asking the same question.
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I strongly dislike BO. You’re just an intellectual tragedy.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
KK, you were against the war in Afgh since the jump, as soon as BL is on a slab you want to drop to your knee’s and blow the pres.
Is your life 100% contradiction and hypocrisy ?
No need to answer it was a rhetorical question.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
BrownStained
Are they celebrating Prez O-Bama in the trailer park today?
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Young,
I could tell from your earlier post you dont like BO but that doesn’t mean you are not 100% a libtard.
Intellectual tragedy, you
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Democrats = Balanced Budgets & Growth
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That’s what they’d like you to think, anyway. But they pander to big business with the best of them. Hell, Chris Dodd put his name on legislation that was written by Bank of America. Then most of the Dems signed it.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Blood,
He was being protected the Pakis. The pakis need to keep him allive to make sure the US spends more money on them. The last thing they want is to have their boogie man dead. Nothing goes on in that city without the govt knowing about it.
But some on here would like to believe that Bush killed Osam so that Obie can get the credit and win an automatic re-election. SMH.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
LMFAO
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KoolKell Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Democrats = Balanced Budgets & Growth
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
“Thank god from Pres Obie..” direct quote from Rush today. Unbelievable.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Who has said this?
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Aig-Raiders Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
But some on here would like to believe that Bush killed Osam
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
*for
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Democrats = Balanced Budgets & Growth
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That’s what they’d like you to think, anyway.
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YA it’s pretty damned plain
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calmar/2235223387/
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
i knew the haters would come out as soon as the rush read-a-long started…
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
To say Democrats & Republicans are the same, is pretty damned lame.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calmar/2235223387/
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
To say Democrats & Republicans are the same is lazy & dishonest.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calmar/2235223387/
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Democrats = Balanced Budgets & Growth
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That’s what they’d like you to think, anyway.
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YA it’s pretty damned plain
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calmar/2235223387/
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Debt is only one aspect of the economy, albeit an important one. But the Dems are just as responsible for policies that go beyond being “pro-business” – instead giving the most powerful corporations free reign to do whatever they want, destroying true competition in the process. The losers, in the end, are the American people. See: The Telecommunications Act of 1996.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
KK, you have watched the deficit increase 3x since Bo took office, unemployment hovering at 9% from 6% when GW left and equate that with growth and balanced budgets.
If you are not the single most ignorant person on this planet who is ?
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
But some on here would like to believe that Bush killed Osam so that Obie can get the credit and win an automatic re-election. SMH.
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Bush’s dad, Bush 1 was having dinner with bin Laden’s brother at a Carlyle business conference at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel when 911 happened, a little too connected for Bush Jr to kill him.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
To assume Democrats and Republicans are different shows that you haven’t been paying attention.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Democrats and Republicans are under the same ownership:
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Bush Jr. was more concerned with his Iraq adventure than Bin Laden. Keeping Bin Laden alive helped Bush W launch his Iraq adventure. The war industry needed Bin Laden alive to keep the production line running.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
And now the war industry has Gaddafi as their boggieman… so it goes.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
boogieman*
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
AIG they did? So u believe he was kept alive for production purposes but dont think May Day had some of the same motives eh? lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I love it…..Prez BO’s number one fluffer Kell is in here spouting more BS. Tell em Kell BO is best ever
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Bauce,
You’re the dude that said he died 10 yrs ago right? lmfao.
The last thing the Paki want is for Bin Laden to be dead. How much money do you think they are getting from the US each year? The paki intelligence service ISI were the ones that created teh Talibans to counter the Indian influence. I doubt you know that.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
The fact remains that BO did what Bush could not do.
Period.
I knew all the teabaggers would be out in force today trying to undermine what happened. Meanwhile Trump is still trying to distract us with college grades and other BS while the President is busy taking care of business.
Believe me Trump is in this for HIMSELF as soon as it gets serious he will drop out like he has done in the past. He get some media attention gets his name in the news then gets out. It has happened a few times already what makes this year any different?
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Bauce,
turn on CNN right now the former Paki pres Pervez (Bush’s good friend) is now denying and backtracking on prev statements that Osama was never in Paki. This is the same dude that got billions from the US and now even he isnt denying Osa was killed yesterday.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Strangest B+ grade of draft I have ever read on yahuuuu. Not sure if this dude was complimenting or being sarcastic.
Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski(notes), CB Demarcus Van Dyke(notes) , OL Joseph Barksdale(notes), CB Chimdi Chekwa(notes), RB Taiwan Jones(notes), WR Denarius Moore(notes), TE Richard Gordon(notes), WR David Ausberry(notes) .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour(notes) two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele(notes) just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
If I was a right wing religious republican I would be more concerned about who is going to run against the president and have a chance to beat him rather than what grades did he get in college.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Jerry,
I’m still waiting to hear if any reporter or Raider beat writer asked why they passed on CASEY MATTHEWS when he was right there for the taking in Round 4??
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Reason why Casey Matthews or Herzlich not a Raider? too slow 40 times. I would have loved to have either of these guys. Watch Matthews become an impact rookie next year.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
He got to be Editor of the Harvard Law Review because of affirmative action, right BrownStains?
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Bauce,
turn on CNN right now the former Paki pres Pervez (Bush’s good friend) is now denying and backtracking on prev statements that Osama was never in Paki. This is the same dude that got billions from the US and now even he isnt denying Osa was killed yesterday.
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Because we have been giving this country millions upon millions in aide in return for their services helping fight terrorist organizations and it now appears that the most wanted man in the world was hiding in their backyard with their assistance
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
It is funny how people that believe in every conspiracy theory make fun of people that believe everything the government says….you look just as ridiculous as them.
If you are a birther, you are an idiot.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Reason why Casey Matthews or Herzlich not a Raider? too slow 40 times. I would have loved to have either of these guys. Watch Matthews become an impact rookie next year.
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If that was the only reason, than those are dumb reasons. Matthews should have been the pick there. Herzlich went later right?
Matthews still ran a 4.75 40 I think. That is plenty fast for an ILB/OLB who is 6′2, 235-240 pounds.
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Birth Certificate in one had, OBL’s head in the other.
Domino, mfer
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
To assume Democrats and Republicans are different shows that you haven’t been paying attention.
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2 sides of the same coin
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Here is a picture of Osama…
http://morrisonworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-in-Abbottabad.jpg
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
201. LOL!
May 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Hell, I wonder of Chekwa wasn’t there, if old man Al would have still put the overide factor and passed him for another CB? Terrible.
Yeah, that was a typical old man Al mistake pick there to pass on Matthews!
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Severe,
Exactly. The Pakis got millions so long as their boogieman was alive. He lived right next door to their military academy. Their chief military guy visits there all the time so you know that area is secured. They protected him and thought we’d never look there. Now that he is dead, there is a huge amount of talk in Congress about taking their money away. That’s the exact thing they feared and why they kept Osie alive this entire time.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Wow, yeah I heard he was shot in the eye.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
If I was a right wing religious republican I would be more concerned about who is going to run against the president and have a chance to beat him rather than what grades did he get in college.
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What is funny is that W and McCain had some pretty iffy academic records. But now the republicans are concerned about past academic achievement?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Text Book Special Ops. Navy Seal’s baby!
BrownStains, you ever been in the Navy?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Wow, take a look at this video at the 35 sec mark. Holy cow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu4sytmrjJ0
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Osama bin Laden Photo Proven to be fake…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake?CMP=twt_fd
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Text Book Special Ops. Navy Seal’s baby!
BrownStains, you ever been in the Navy?
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More like text book Photoshop…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Or Microsoft Paint…lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Severe,
Exactly. The Pakis got millions so long as their boogieman was alive. He lived right next door to their military academy. Their chief military guy visits there all the time so you know that area is secured. They protected him and thought we’d never look there. Now that he is dead, there is a huge amount of talk in Congress about taking their money away. That’s the exact thing they feared and why they kept Osie alive this entire time.
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I dont argue with conspiracy theorist and you shouldn’t either. They are the people that think they are being cool by being non-conformist but are really just conforming to the other non-conformist. They get a majority of their info from unsubstantiated, unsubstantive, unreliable, and (often times) unstable third party sources. Unless you witness something first hand you have no way of being sure that you aren’t being conned when you hear the news from a third party source. I’d rather believe reliable new sources that some screwball that thinks the government is out to get him or that they’re being blackballed cuz they can’t get a gig. Somehow these soft heads pound their chests and claim to be the authority on all things government just because they saw a DVD or read a book that made them question things, and to make matters worse they call others sheep. Pot, meet kettle.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
…..But now the republicans are concerned about past academic achievement?
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They want academic record for a guy who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School. okkayyyyy? I think some wingnuts on here think Magna Cum Laude means the person with the biggest schlong or something.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
They want academic record for a guy who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School. okkayyyyy? I think some wingnuts on here think Magna Cum Laude means the person with the biggest schlong or something.
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ROFLMAO…..
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
AIG, that was a good one Bruh….lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Severe,
I am sure today’s reporting of Osa’s death will change as more info is dugged up later. I’ve followed too many coverups and spin job by our govt, i.e. Pat Tillman. However, I’m quite certain Osa was killed yesterday.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Thanks Thec.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
so you want the presidents college records…. explain to me again how that is going to help you defeat him in 2012?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Rush Limbaugh began his radio show Monday morning praising President O-bama for his leadership in the demise of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
In his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh who has been one of O-bama’s fiercest critics, gave the commander-in-chief all the glory in the successful mission that ended the life of Public Enemy No. 1.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I’d rather believe reliable new sources
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the “News” in former days came from several sources…
Now you get most of your “News” from the AP funnel…
All the majors parrots the same thing, no real perspective…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Osama bin Laden Photo Proven to be fake…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake?CMP=twt_fd
Actually a pretty bad photoshop job….
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
If the guy did get bagged show me some good photo’s and not the phoney photoshop versions…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
limbal must be high again…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Photo came from a old picture that was circulated 2 years ago….lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
olinesux Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
limbal must be high again…
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As usual…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
I will bet the “new” phtoshop pics wont be as clear, and taken from a distance…If they even show them…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Does this mean we can repeal the Patriot Act, abolish the TSA, stand down our military from around the world and save billions of dollars per month?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
So which “reliable” news source posted the fake photoshop pictures????
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
The UN Security Council welcomes the death of Bin Laden, describing it as a “critical development” in the fight against terrorism, according to the AFP news agency.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Twocents Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Does this mean we can repeal the Patriot Act, abolish the TSA, stand down our military from around the world and save billions of dollars per month?
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Of course not… Al-CIAda is still out there…lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
so based on that the world should see some good photo’s of this guys demise right?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
This is a profoundly important moment not just for the families of those who lost their lives on 9/11 and in al-Qaeda’s other attacks but for people all over the world who want to build a common future of peace, freedom, and co-operation for our children.
I congratulate the president, the National Security team and the members of our armed forces on bringing Osama Bin Laden to justice after more than a decade of murderous al-Qaeda attacks.
Bill Clinton
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
After September 11, 2001, we gave our word as Americans that we would stop at nothing to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden. After the contribution of millions, including so many who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation, we have kept that word.
New Yorkers have waited nearly 10 years for this news. It is my hope that it will bring some closure and comfort to all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001.
Michael Bloomberg
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
So let me get this straight we killed Osama bin Laden, A guy we have been hunting for 10 years and no one had a camera???
We have zero pictures to show for it????
Damn it must be taking them a while to get the right composites togather…lol
doesnt take that long to composite pics in photoshop…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
French President Nicolas Sarkozy
The scourge of terrorism has suffered a historic defeat but it’s not the end of al-Qaeda.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
New Yorkers have waited nearly 10 years for this news
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So good pictures are coming right…
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Russia
The Kremlin welcomes the serious success the United States achieved in the war against international terrorism. Retribution inevitably reaches all terrorists.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Let me at those great composites…..
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
No one had a camera?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
European Parliament President Jerzy Buzek
We have woken up in a more secure world.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Can I see just one good picture since they had the body?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Turkish President Abdullah Gul
This shows that terrorists and terrorist group leaders in the end are caught whether dead or alive. The most dangerous and sophisticated terrorist organisation leader in the world being caught this way should be a lesson to everyone.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
We have been looking for this guy for 10 years and yet we dont have a picture?????
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Ok so where are the pictures??? Oh let me guess they are in editing???? Putting the finishing touches on the eye wound….lol
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
gotta run out again…
LTR NATION
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
There is an endless supply of boogiemen to keep the war machine well oiled.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I think people throughout the world will be relieved about this news and we congratulate the United States on ending the reign of terror of Osama Bin Laden himself.
Of course it does not mean that we should not be vigilant against terrorism it does not mean the work of all those involved in trying to prevent terrorism is over, but it is a very important step.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Thec07 Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
We have been looking for this guy for 10 years and yet we dont have a picture?????
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Poor guy, you actually think that after a putting their lifes in danger in a conflict that took 40 minutes and taking out public enemy #1 our special forces thought, “let me make sure a get a picture for the conspiracy theorist back home”. If there was no autopsy done then no photos will be available.
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I didn’t know the Navy Seals carry a camera or let a journalist tag along for fun?
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I’m sure they carried cameras for this operation. I’m also certain these images and videos are top secret until leaked by Wikileaks. Pretty darn funny that some dude was trying to get awawy from the Rat Race of work only to find himself in the middle of one of the biggest raid in history. Too funny.
May 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Go Mavs!
May 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Wow,came in here for Raider info, hearing a bunch of crap,imo Why was osamas body thrown to the sharks so quickly? somethin stinks,lets wait on this a bit!
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I’m starting to like the Raiders draft picks. I wish this blasted lockout would get over soon so we could move on.
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Casey Matthews is overrated; only gets pub because of last name – slow and suspect in coverage.
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Noteasilyimpressed Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Casey Matthews is overrated; only gets pub because of last name – slow and suspect in coverage.
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Sounds like a certain center/guard that we drafted
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 pm
# noteasilyimpressed Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Casey Matthews is overrated; only gets pub because of last name – slow and suspect in coverage.
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If true, then I still would have rather had him on this Raider football team ahead of another freakin CB like Chekwa.
Matthews would have brought more to the table.
May 2nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I give this Raider draft a B-.
It would have been an A- if they would have picked Matthews when he was right there in front of him. If he winds up contributing in Philly more than Chekwa contributes here in Oakland. It will prove to be a another silly mistake by the old man Al.
I will bet you Huey and even Chuck B wanted Matthews more….but old man Al needed someone to agree with him on another DB like Chekwa and of course Woodson agreed and thats all the old man Al needed to take another freakin CB.
Oh well….at least we should now, there shouldn’t be any freakin CB’s taken in next years draft….at least I would hope! Dammit!
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Osama is disliked by many as well and many arabs condemn the dude so u have no point. This just in Santa Claus is real
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Pretty happy with the overall draft, other than the Barksdale pick.
I am basing it solely on what I saw at his all-star game.
Mayock was saying it was his time to shine, he got dominated the first two days of practice, than showed up the 3rd day and said he was injured (but wouldn’t let the staff check him out), and Mayock implied that many NFL teams looked at it like it was orchestrated by his agent to prevent his draft from slipping further.
So instead of manning up and fighting through it he lied and tried to game the system.
He will be out of the league in a few years, book it.
Other than that pretty happy. Like both the corners, especially with how awful McFadden and Ware were last season.
Between Ware and McFadden, and both these rookies, I only think two will stick, and I think Walter McFadden will be gone.
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Pretty happy with the overall draft, other than the Barksdale pick.
I am basing it solely on what I saw at his all-star game.
Mayock was saying it was his time to shine, he got dominated the first two days of practice, than showed up the 3rd day and said he was injured (but wouldn’t let the staff check him out), and Mayock implied that many NFL teams looked at it like it was orchestrated by his agent to prevent his draft from slipping further.
So instead of manning up and fighting through it he lied and tried to game the system.
He will be out of the league in a few years, book it.
Other than that pretty happy. Like both the corners, especially with how awful McFadden and Ware were last season.
Between Ware and McFadden, and both these rookies, I only think two will stick, and I think Walter McFadden will be gone.
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If you think that Walter McFadden will be gone you are crazy…he has the best pure cover skills of any of the players that we drafted this year or last year. He had one bad game coming off of an injury, on the road, in his first pro action and all of a sudden the guy can’t play.
Barksdale, Moore, and Jones were our best picks, with Moore being the best value of that bunch.
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
walter mcfadden can cover, isn’t afraid to help in the run game, and has that confident/cocky attitude that it takes to be a good corner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBuXMfjIHI
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Wiz, Barksdale and Jones are only picks that excited me for 2011 season
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:35 pm
For what it’s worth, Bauce, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised by Moore.
Former NFL scout Dave Razzano likes the Jones, Barksdale, and Ausberry picks. He thinks Ausberry will turn some heads. The kid seems to have a nice skill set, but I smell practice squad for him for at least a season, as they did with Reece.
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
YA…..ill take moore hell ill take em all theey are drafted Raiders! As i said time and time again this weekend…i dont agree with all the picks but im rolling with Al
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Word, likewise.
May 2nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I guess everyone is watching the Laker game?
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
The Illuminati has concocted a worldwide conspiracy against Al Davis.
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Barksdale is garbage, an underachieving, super-smart aloof guy with an obvious non-passion for football.
Think Kwame Harris revisited.
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Remains to be seen.
#21 didn’t give us any of those intangibles.
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severeraiderz Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
walter mcfadden can cover, isn’t afraid to help in the run game, and has that confident/cocky attitude that it takes to be a good corner
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
263. Thats why last year was so dissapointing and why missing OTA’s and or practices could hamper him more.
I like “Wheezy” and think he’s gonna be a good nickle.
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 pm
269.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Barksdale is garbage, an underachieving, super-smart aloof guy with an obvious non-passion for football.
Think Kwame Harris revisited.
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Jerry disagrees.
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:39 pm
KK, on the tail end of an 18hr blogging day again huh?
Your wife must be so proud. I bet she cant stop talking about you at the Barbershop!
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
BrownStains,
Fireworks in the trailer park tonite? We got OBL!
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 pm
J Hill Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Yeah, but you know he’s going to hire some undercover flamer campaign manager who will spin they shyyytte outta this.
Wouldn’t surprise me one bit to these cats take on the terror platform and tell the US how safe the’ve made everyone, LOL.
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What?…….. incoherent
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
269.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Barksdale is garbage, an underachieving, super-smart aloof guy with an obvious non-passion for football.
Think Kwame Harris revisited.
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I got the same feeling. I hope it was just the shock of being drafted, and being on camera and such.
If you aint got the right tude on O-line, you wont last long, foo shoo.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:27 pm
I heard him interviewed by R.Tittle and didn’t get that impression.In fact,Tittle talked about how impressed he was with him,about how he seemed to love the game and wanted to make an impact.The kid talked about how he could play on the right or the left side-G or T.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Lefty, time will tell.
With the man’s height weight speed agility, and strenght if he does not make it, it must be because he is not “wired” to be an O-linman.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Time will tell.I just don’t see how someone can make a statement like JFB did without knowing or talking to the kid,especially on here where once someone says something,others will take it,run with it,and treat it as gospel.
May 2nd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
I aint saying JFB is right, but I hope he is wrong.
I was not blown away with his energy or fire in the clips I have seen of him. I have never seen him on a Football field fully strapped banging heads yet though. I will this Summer.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 am
Kell, where’s all the country stars at? Isn’t Toby Keith going to make a song about O bama and the military kicking ass? Charlie Daniels? Lee Greenwood? Who’s the guy who sang, “have you forgotten…”? Where they at? Their silence right now is puzzling. I thought these men were patriots.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:27 am
PLAXICO PLAXICO PLAXICO PLAXICO
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 am
IF we can get that vet possesion receiver for third downs and move the chains, than our Run-D can improve to yhe bend-not-break style of the early 2000s
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:36 am
First time for a while I’m actually intrigued and not disgusted by the Oline. Atleast the right side can only get better.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 am
I remember the Titans game, the tackles just seemed to let them romp on Jcamp. JCamp got up looked at his linemen and took a knee.
The linemen didn’t even seem to regret it. Jcamp looked shocked by the lack of heart in his line and did’nt recover for about four games.
Wiz 2.0 should at least bring some of that heart, although I’m still left with a bad taste in my mouth about these LSU kids all talent no desire so hopefully Wiz can ruboff on this Barksdale kid.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:06 am
Barksdale vastly improved the O-line of LSU, hopefully he carries that over to the Raiders.
Wisniewski will be an all-pro, hopefully Vahldeer, Campbell, Barksdale, & Loper follow him.
Something tells me Gordon is going to be converted to a DE/rush OLB.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:50 am
Again I am basing my assessment of Barksdale what he did at his all-star game.
He failed miserably that week, according to all the stuff I read and watched that week.
Could have been just a bad week for him. I do know that when assessing Prince falling to #19, John Clayton said he heard teams thought he was almost too smart and a little soft because of it.
Well Barksdale is very intelligent, and I think the same soft label gets applied to him as well.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:53 am
An O-line of Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale may be a good O-line in 2013, but that will get Soup killed the first couple of months of next season.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:23 am
Seen a couple of LSU games watching Barksdale, and he seems plenty strong at POA! Seems to me that his biggest weakness is speedrushers, he is way too slow to seal the edge on some plays! He also seemed to have troubles when trying to reach 2 level where he was a bit slow and had a tendency to launch, too often failing to make the block! He does however look to be a great addition with the mold that fits Hue’s scheme imo!
After what I saw it seems that he would fit best inside at Guard where his strength and reach could really help him give a push in the runninggame, while not having to face speedrushers every other minute! B. Campbell or a FA might be better fit for that!
Also, Wiz Jr. is a great study of the game and has all the potential in the world – but whether you will it or not, watching the games show that he initially lacks some strength to get a good push on bigger linemen (takes good angles though)! This he can work on, and he will – my guess is that he will gain the strength needed after putting in some hard work in the not too distant future (already has been bulking up from his playing weight), but in the meantime, Big Barks strength could really help him anchor the inside, and they would complement eachother really well imo – although both could use a bit more of a Mean streak sometimes (guess Wiz Sr will see to that)!
Btw, watching the games really makes me hope we get Terrence Toliver as a priority FA, cause he can do it all – block, run, jump and catch, would be a great addition to our WR squad!
Any LSU guys in here that can supply a more thorough opinion on Big Barks?
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:27 am
@JFB, they would definately make him run for it when making some expected rookie and unexperienced faults! Could really use some veteran leadership! Personally im still rooting for Yanda and Gaither from Balt, as they both seem to be leaving Balt and Hue + Saunders has ties to them.. They could really add power and strength, as well as Yanda could add leadership, to this young, eager but unexperienced line! Mankins could be a great addition, but trading for him seems difficult, although it could be Seymore deal part 2..
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:56 am
Mavs 1
Lakers 0
Happy Tuesday !!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:03 am
WHAT INNING ROCKSTAR ? LOL
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:26 am
G’mornin fellas.
Did you guys see McSahay yesterday on BSPN? What a D-Bag. They were giving out there draft grades and announcing the winners and losers. You know the obligatory Raider bashing is coming. But McShay strained any credibility he ever had. IF ANY.
Mel questioned the Seahawks. Didn’t like the fact they didn’t take a young QB. That’s typical Mel. Thought they reached on the OT in the 1st. So did everybody. Hell, even his old coach Nick Saban seemed shocked when that kid went in the 1st Rd.
Then Todd announces his loser. Oakland of course. He said all their picks were reaches, including Wiz 2.0.
To be honest, I wasn’t crazy about the pick at the time. But Todd, lol…said he like Wiz, and thought he was going to be a good player. BUT, Oakland could’ve gotten him in THE FOURTH OR FIFTH ROUND.
Really, Todd? That’s nonsensical. Nobody believes that, so why would he say it? For Effect? To try and make the Riaders look Bad?
Wiz was a solid 2nd rd pick. IF he made it out of rd 2 he would’ve went early in the 3rd. McShay said the only value pick he liked was Taiwan Jones. But that Oakland took a similar player in Jacoby Ford last year. Except one is a RB the other a WR.WTF? I guess he thought he was only drafted for kick returns.
Overall, I thought McShay came off looking like a clown. But, that’s nothing new. I’d give him a D-.
Maybe downgrade it to an F for his fake John Boehner spray-on tan.lol.
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:49 am
Raiderrockstar sucks Pitos
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 am
Mcshay’s talent was summed up as such by a PFT post quoting a working NFL scout… “Most people at my level feel McShay is a joke. People in the league respect Kiper. He is not a true scout but he does work at it. A lot of his info he gets from connections in the league, and over the years he has made quite a few. When he was younger he used to burn some bridges. He doesn’t do that any more. McShay does not have any good connections. Higher-ups in the league think he is an arrogant a$$hole. A know-it-all. And he really knows nothing. Whatever he says about a quarterback, take it to the bank, it will be the opposite. McShay is a pretty face who comes across like he knows what he is talking about. He does have good presence, but knows nothing.“
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Kiper is clearly the best in the business, and McShay is the pretty-boy face for TV.
Interesting note, by the time Wiz 2.0 starts the first preseason game, it will have been 18 months since he snapped a balll in a live game.
I hope he plays at least a half of each preseason game to catch up.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:47 am
Clayton had an interesting point that he has heard in NFL circles that African-born players are getting the “soft” rap like all European basketball players.
He said that some teams feel that football is not ingrained in their culture, and that they are so highly-intelligent that they just aren’t your typical NFL grinders, they have other interests and things they want to accomplish.
Said it was the main reason he felt Prince fell to #19
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
I just watched Taiwan Jones pro day on YouTube. Very impressive. I hope he pans out.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Plaxico will take a year or two to get back to form if he’s ever able to get there (see Vick). Wouldn’t mind giving up Murphy for Johnson as they’re similar down the sideline type of receivers as opposed to guys who go over the middle. At this point I’d like Owens and think he could make us a playoff team
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Todd announces his loser. Oakland of course. He said all their picks were reaches, including Wiz 2.0.
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I’m not concerned about what McShay thinks. The Raiders needed OL & DB’s
Asomugha & Huff are gone. Gallery is gone, too.
My best guess is that between Carlisle, Walker, Henderson & Barnes – at least 2 of those guys will be gone as well
Stevie Brown & Hiram Eugene aren’t starting calibur players. Just special teams aces. Branch got burned a little too much for my liking last season, but overall is still a good football player imo. Mitchell remains a question mark in coverage, but had a few solid outings last season when given the opportunity
McFadden & Ware are unproven at corner and the only guy behind them is Joe Porter (who ???)
The Oakland Raiders had a fine draft
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:18 am
I suppose the Raiders could have drafted Ryan Mallett at #48 and either Jah Reid or Clint Boling at #81
then Curtis Brown at #92
but I think it worked out ok
Wiz, DVD & Barks will do just fine!
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:19 am
NoLuv4Hoes : grow up
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
Daven #298,
Yeah, I really like the Taiwan Jones pick. Especially where they got him in the 4th and not @48.
Unfortunately it seems inevitable that DMac is going to miss 3 or 4 games a year with lingering hamstring/toe injuries. I hope not. I’d like to see what kind of damage he could do in a full 16 game season. But we can’t count on it.
So now when he’s out we have a nice change of pace to pair with Bush. Sounds like if you give this kid a sliver of daylight, he can take it to the house.
The draft guide I have says he’s an experienced kickoff and punt returner. I’d like to see him get a shot at returning punts. If he has the elusiveness and acceleration that he’s supposed to, he’d be a real big play threat to compliment Ford on kickoffs.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:25 am
I’m not upset about the Raiders not drafting a young QB, either. I feel it would have been the way to go if Dalton or Kape was available, though
As it stands, Matt Moore, David Garrard, Vince Young, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer & Tarvaris Jackson would ALL be better #2 QB’s than Kyle Boller imo
grab one and let’s play ball
I wonder how much the Cincy owner hates Palmer & Ocho?
Would he trade them here for Boller, Schilens and next year’s 3rd rounder? At least then he’s not releasing them and paying heavily for it or forcing his “franchise QB” to retire
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 am
Buckeyeraider,
Taiwan Jones draft profile stated his durability is questionable. kockoff and punt return duty would be high risk. What’s your take on this?
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:35 am
Daven, I don’t know if I want to see Taiwan Jones’ “kockoff” abilities.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Rumor has it Javon Walker was good at kockoffs.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 am
I think the #1 reason that Palmer wants out of Cincy is Ocho… They wont be reuniting anywhere soon I dont think.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:37 am
RRS,
You’re not the first..somebody else was hoping to reunite Palmer and Ocho in Oakland the other day. Can’t remember who it was.
I don’t see it happening. In fact, I think Chad and Owens were a big part of Palmer’s disgust and declining play in Cincy. One reason why he was contemplating retirement. He’s sick of Mike Brown and the incompetent franchise in Cincy for sure.
But he was also fed up with OchoCinco and his disatractions, his self promotions and nonsense. Especially Chad freelancing his routes.
Palmer had a bad year and threw 20 int’s, but his production was actually better with young recievers like Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley in there.
I think he was disgusted with the OchoCinco and T.O. freakshow, and wants nothing to do with reuniting with them in Oakland or anywhere else.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Palmer would start over Campbell for sure. Facts are facts and a healthy Carson Palmer is a better quarterback the Campbell. That said, I dont think we bring in any of these vet qbs, but it would be kinda funny if we brought in McNabb to take Jasons job again.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
What a Laker choke job.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
Morning peoples!
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:40 am
Buckeye you gotta be pretty excited about the Checkwa pick right?
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 am
Was Phil Jackson taking a nap during the 4th Qtr?
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 am
Beat me to the punch, Bcz. lol.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
PUUUUUUKE!
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 am
Jason Cole draft grades
Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski(notes), CB Demarcus Van Dyke(notes) , OL Joseph Barksdale(notes), CB Chimdi Chekwa(notes), RB Taiwan Jones(notes), WR Denarius Moore(notes), TE Richard Gordon(notes), WR David Ausberry(notes) .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour(notes) two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele(notes) just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 am
National Football Post:
Oakland Raiders
A typical draft in Oakland where they brought in a lot of highly gifted athletes who can run. I don’t like the DeMarcus Van Dyke pick in round three and actually like Chimdi Chekwa — the corner they took in round four — more. RB Taiwan Jones adds some big- play ability to the backfield and WR Denarius Moore gives them another vertical threat on the outside. However, the addition of Stefen Wisniewski will give them an instant upgrade inside at center and he should be a starting pivot there for the next 8-plus years.
Grade: C+
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:47 am
If you think that Walter McFadden will be gone you are crazy…he has the best pure cover skills of any of the players that we drafted this year or last year. He had one bad game coming off of an injury, on the road, in his first pro action and all of a sudden the guy can’t play.
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Severe,
There is nothing on the football field that Walter McFadden can do, that Jeremy Ware can’t. And Ware plays, and plays well on ST’s.
Plus, Ware played almost all season, even experienced a smidge of success with his INT against KC, and never got hurt.
On the flip side, McFadden played all of 4 games, managed to play the worst 20 minutes of corner I ever seen in my life (at home against Chad Henne no less) and got hurt for months in a non-contact play.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:48 am
Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Rumor has it Javon Walker was good at kockoffs.
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Kockoffs???
Don’t even want to know….what a kockoff is!
LOL!
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
As of today……..
Ware>W. McFadden
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 am
According to NFL Network’s Jason La Canfora, the 49ers explored trading up for Colin Kaepernick late in the first round before ultimately settling on dealing up for him at No. 36 overall.
Citing multiple league sources, La Canfora says the 49ers were “persistent” in trying to acquire Kaepernick. Both San Francisco and Oakland had discussions with New England for the No. 33 pick, before the Pats called it off and settled on Ras-I Dowling. Ultimately, the 49ers wound up using the equivalent — per the NFL Draft Value Chart — of a first-rounder on Kaepernick anyhow (1,103.5 points, equal to a top-15 overall selection).
Related: Patriots, Raiders
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:51 am
The Prez is making a huge mistake by sitting on these photos. Hell, he has already waited long enough to let the same nutcases who think the towers were professionally demolished by Dick Cheney now have ammunition to claim the photos were faked.
Hell, for years some idiots thought Hit1ers was alive and living in Miami.
People amaze me.
Come on Prez, you handled this situation perfectly up until now….don’t blow it.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:52 am
McFadden was much better in coverage than Ware before tearing the hammy. Lets see what happens when we dont have a paddy cake hold your hand walkthrough week of training camp with these guys. Maybe their hammys will hold up and we can see their real potential
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
Vegas,
Congrats on the Danarius Moore call. You were all over that two or three weeks ago.
I think that was a good pick. You read his description in the draft guide and wonder if this guy isn’t a little underrated. You read about him and wonder why he has a 5th rd grade and rated the 23rd WR prospect. Was this class really that deep?
He sounds like a promising prospect. Has good hands, runs good routes and has big play ability. Sounds like he was hampered by his surrounding cast at Tennessee.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:56 am
Bills GM Buddy Nix strongly indicated on a radio show Monday that the team has no intentions if retaining free agent SS Donte Whitner.
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I wouldn’t mind bringing in Whitner, but I think he’ll be too pricey.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:59 am
Denarius Moore catches the ball in traffic 99% of the time in this video…..not bad!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOki9dQ0nC8
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:02 am
Bcz,
I like the Chimdi Chekwa pick. I think they got good value with it too. He was projected as a 3rd rd pick.
I don’t think he’s as good as Antoine Winfield or Nate Clements were coming out of OSU. He doesn’t have the hands or ball skills to grab a bunch of INT’s.
But the Raiders got a good player, who is going to play hard. provide some nice, physical coverage and not be afraid to come up and stick his nose in on run support. He’ll probably be solid on special teams too.
I don’t know if Chekwa will ever be a star or considered elite. But, he’ll be a solid pro, and was a good pick, IMO.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Unlike last year where we had several players play and some start I don’t think any will this year I think this draft was for depth purposes. I thin the Starting C will still be Satele and the the rest of the line will be players already on the team (I know they are FA’s right) but they played for us last year.
I think Wiz and DVD will see playing time as well as Mooore and especially TJ but it could be a year before Barksdale, Chekwa Ausberry and the rest see anything representative of starting time.
But this draft does help put talent for development on the team that could help us down the road and in pinch this year. But IMO all these players are developmental types. Bothe Olineman are in serious need of prolevel weight training. DVD and TJ need to get stronger and the others just need time to adjust to this level of play. You may see quite a few UDFA’s as well a QB, Dline and more Oline help from there.
I csn see DMoore and TJ playing quite a bit but everyone else I think will get spot duty unless like Ford did last year they just bust out and get the coaching staffs attention. That could be DVD and Ausberry IMO.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
No need to release photos of Bin-Ladens face blown off, to prove anything to the Birther wackos.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
I love this. We have put together another nice draft, we have a new coaching regime. Our team has young players coming into their own, and we are establishing a new identity. I am truly eager to find out what the future holds, as we are reloaded, and poised to pounce on the rest of the nfl, with an explosive, powerful offense, & a fast dynamic defense! yet the haters are everywhere, including right here on this board.
You want to run out a qb that had a decent year, and finished on the upswing. You want to cast off the qb that went 7-5, and has the respect of the entire organization, from Al Davis, to Hu jack, to the locker room. Instead of keeping a talented young qb entering the prime of his life and career, you want oakland to become the Cincinnati bungles remixed?!?!?!?!? Carson palmer & & Ocho,?!?!?! Two faded and wildly overrated players that are key cogs in a toxic environment, full of finger pointing and dysfunction?!?!?
You have got to be kidding!!!
By the way can we stop with the excuses for Palmer. Palmer has a career record of 41-47! Palmer has been sacked 160 times, and is struggling with turnovers and injuries. There is no way you bring in a washed up palmer, that is also proving to be a locker room cancer.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
DMoore is underrated because he had a freshman QB who struggled most of the year. If he had a better QB he may have put up some serious #’s he has all the ability of someof the kids that went much higher and he has good size speed and catches everything he’s a good looking kid.
But TJ is just way underrated IMO this kid has star type talent he’s a little ove 6ft and capable of carrying 205-10 lbs. And that is prototype HB size he’s bigger and more ophysical than people think. This kid has as much talent as you can ask for he’s got moves galore and runs with balance and vision and extremely explosive. If he can stay healthy this kid will challenge for playing time, HE IS LEGIT……………period
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
Predicted two of our picks in my first mock (Wiz and Moore) before I jumped on the trade up for Kappy bandwagon ahead of Wiz.
Not sure why people are sleeping on Moore. Got size and speed, and always thought he made plays even though he was there only real big play threat (didn’t see many Vols drafted this year).
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 am
DENARIUS MOORE!
Mel Kiper Jr. says Denarius is a “steal” for the Raiders. Watch this clip and imagine him doing this in a Raider uniform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOki9dQ0nC8
(Hope the link works).
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
Dakota, I haven’t seen any polls suggesting that voters think O bama might be lying about killing Bin Laden. Sure that’s not just your personal opinion? Do you think that you represent the views of most voters? You certainly didn’t in 2008, now, did you?
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
Even if Jones is good for 5-10 touches a game, and if McFadden or Bush goes down he’d be capable of sharing the load, it would be a good pick. Having a potential home-run hitter, even as a part-time player, can only help your team. Maybe he’ll never be Chris Johnson, but he doesn’t have to be to help the Raiders.
Jones and Moore will be worked into their respective rotations and will hopefully develop into solid role players as rookies.
Wiz and Barksdale will start.
Not sure what to expect from Chekwa, DVD, Gordon, and Ausberry. I wish we knew that training camp was coming soon so we could find out…
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:15 am
Denarius Moores college numbers look just like DHB’s no?
http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/moore_denarius00.html
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
Djohnnyg Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 am
DENARIUS MOORE!
Mel Kiper Jr. says Denarius is a “steal” for the Raiders. Watch this clip and imagine him doing this in a Raider uniform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOki9dQ0nC8
(Hope the link works).
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Kinda looks like the video I posted 5 minutes ago……wait….it is!
LOL!
Too late doggy…
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
Conspiracy theories don’t go over well with voters. As far as the voters are concerned, Bin Laden is dead. I don’t think it’s an issue.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
If bin Laden shows up at the Tastee Freeze in Kalamazoo Michigan like Elvis did, then I will be ticked.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
Denarius Moores college numbers look just like DHB’s no?
No wonder Priesttj is so excited.
http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/moore_denarius00.html
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:20 am
339.r8eray Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
Djohnnyg Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:12 am
DENARIUS MOORE!
Mel Kiper Jr. says Denarius is a “steal” for the Raiders. Watch this clip and imagine him doing this in a Raider uniform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOki9dQ0nC8
(Hope the link works).
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Kinda looks like the video I posted 5 minutes ago……wait….it is!
LOL!
Too late doggy…
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Woops, my bad as they say. Glad I’m not the only one who took time to take a look at what this guy can do.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:22 am
The Raiders will use No. 92 overall pick Joseph Barksdale on the right side of their line, either at guard or right tackle.
Barksdale is a top-notch athlete with requisite tackle length. The knock on him has always been his lack of physicality, as Barksdale was considered to have all the tools at LSU but never played up to his ability. The Raiders’ biggest sore spot is right tackle, so that position gives him his best shot to start.
Source: Oakland Tribune
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I think Hue, Wiz and company will get this kid playing to his potential. I know it’s waaaaaay to early, but
here’s my projected starting O-line.
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz 2.0-Campbell-Barksdale
Many ???????? w/ Campbell though.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:26 am
Let me throw this out there for good measure as well. i heard Cam Newton on Mike and Mike in the morning. I couldnt have been more impressed by this young qb.
Cam is clearly bothered by the notion that he wont be able to learn terminology, and clearly has a chip on his shoulder where this ic concerned. Cam said that he already has the play book and is studying it. Cam demonstrated a dogged determination and work ethic, claiming that ha isnt waiting for the lock out to be resolved, he is preparing now. Cam continues to work with coaches on fundamentals and throwing drills, as he has since the college season ended. Newton said he studies is playbook at night!!! He isnt out there partying, and spending his new money! he is working hard to be the best he can be, & beat the hell out of all of the nay sayers.
I have never seen this kind of talent matched with this sort of competitive will. He is far more driven than the qbs you try and compare him to. This kid is eating and living nothing but football. He will be a great player!
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
If the Raiders sign one free agent, I hope it’s Harvey Dahl or Marshall Yanda.
Veldheer – Loper/Campbell – Wiz 2.0 – Dahl/Yanda – Barksdale
They could use a veteran presence on the right side.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m also curious to see how Veldheer will play w/ out Gallery.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
Mistic1 Tha Stupidvillain
Why are you on Kim Newtons nuts so hard is it because your a Panther fan or are you sexually attracted to young black men?
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
330.KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 am
No need to release photos of Bin-Ladens face blown off, to prove anything to the Birther wackos.
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335.Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
Dakota, I haven’t seen any polls suggesting that voters think O bama might be lying about killing Bin Laden. Sure that’s not just your personal opinion? Do you think that you represent the views of most voters? You certainly didn’t in 2008, now, did you?
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Listen fools, I didn’t say I didn’t believe that UBL is dead. I think the military nailed him just like they say.
The point is that until the photos are released there will be many idiots out there, like those who believe 9-11 was a government conspiracy, and yes, people like the birthers too, and more importantly, the international community, who will keep this thing alive if those photos are not released.
I just finished listening to a guy on BBC who claims that the US government probably faked the guy who “twittered” live about the attack as it was occurring. Too much time has already probably passed, but better late than never.
The longer they wait the more fuel will be put on the fire.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:42 am
Dakota, I wasn’t assuming you to be one of those “idiots”. You just seemed to speak of O bama as if his re-election is in your hands. He won without your vote in 2008, and he’ll win without it again next year.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
The point is that until the photos are released there will be many idiots out there, like those who believe 9-11 was a government conspiracy, and yes, people like the birthers too, and more importantly, the international community, who will keep this thing alive if those photos are not released.
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I would imagine International Security agencies have already see the photos.
The Birthers can wait until they appear at newsmax
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
As someone who isn’t a big fan of Barry? I don’t doubt that his re-election is already in the bag. Unless he gets arrested in Alabama with a 13-year-old white girl in his trunk or something.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
Dakota, they’re not releasing the photos. And there will be no political nor historical consequences. Voters and historians don’t bother with conspiracies. As far as you’re concerned, Osama Bin Laden is dead. It’s over.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
“He won without your vote in 2008, and he’ll win without it again next year.”
So much more fun reading hateful posts about the president rather than being the one writing them like I had to do from 2000-2008!
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
349.Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:42 am
Dakota, I wasn’t assuming you to be one of those “idiots”. You just seemed to speak of O bama as if his re-election is in your hands. He won without your vote in 2008, and he’ll win without it again next year.
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His re-election? It might help that he finally did something right, but his re-election is the furthest thing from my mind.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
Dakota
Birth Certificate in one hand, OBL’s head in the other.
Dominoe emfer
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
WTC’s go down on 9/11, Repub watch. Justice brought to bear by Dems, as usual.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
I believe Osama is dead, but i still want to a a pic.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Dakota, then what do you mean he’s making a mistake by not releasing the photos? Just what consequences were you referring to?
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
“Osama Bin Laden is dead. It’s over.”
I wonder how bad the Bush administration wanted to say those words.
This is egg on the face for the GOP because The President did what Bush could not do.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
KK,
That is the third or fourth time you posted that comment. You have OCD or something?
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:54 am
I am sure that killing OBL is some form of socialism.
LMAO!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:54 am
Dakota,
“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Dust372,
If BO has influence in the middle east why did Pakistan hide him from us?
How about the price of oil with that influence?
Are you braindead ?
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 am
KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 am
Denarius Moores college numbers look just like DHB’s no?
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Difference is that one was taken #7 and one was taken 100+ picks later.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
KK,
That is the third or fourth time you posted that comment. You have OCD or something?
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I have a tendency of re-posting my favorites.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
lol. Good point, MB. Too bad it took you a day and half to come up with it.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
359.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
“Osama Bin Laden is dead. It’s over.”
I wonder how bad the Bush administration wanted to say those words.
This is egg on the face for the GOP because The President did what Bush could not do.
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Prez Bush is just as happy as all of us that UBL has been killed. The begining of the lead that eventually took us to UBL came out of Gitmo 4 years ago. Glad Senator Obamma didn’t get that place shut down…
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:58 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
KK,
That is the third or fourth time you posted that comment. You have OCD or something?
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Touch, touchy. Cheer up, Dakota. This is a great time for America.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:58 am
I never saw B.O. strut around one time, or grab his crotch or anything like Bush did when he declared Mission Accomplished
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Mistic1,
How can you say that Al Davis and Hue Jackson are sold on Jason Campbell?
Campbell has yet to be offered a contract extension, and Al feverishly tried to trade up to take his replacement.
Meanwhile, Hue flat out said he wanted a young arm in camp, and benched Campbell 3 times last year.
I put the over/under on how many more starts Soup has in a Raider uniform at 13.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:00 am
Dakota, I want to see a video of the terrorist giving Bin Ladin up to interrogators while Bush was president. Let’s see the video. Otherwise, it didn’t happen.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:02 am
?????????????????
So which one of these rookies will have the biggest impact on the team?
I’m going w/ Wiz 2.0 and Taiwan.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
Mistic1 Tha Stupidvillain
Why are you on Kim Newtons nuts so hard is it because your a Panther fan or are you sexually attracted to young black men?======================================================
SilverandCRACK what is your problem? If this is the kind of thing your into that is your own business, but why subject the rest and drag down the quality of this board?
I think Cam was a great college qb. he was one of the greatest of all time in my opinion based on what he accomplished. back to back national titles, undefeated season, and heisman trophy. many here have trashed him for lots of different reasons. How ever most disturbing have been the questions about his intelligence and work ethic or dedication to football. Well this interview proves the opposite of what blog clowns have been saying about him.
Based on your comment, the only things that really should be questioned, are your own intelligence, and orientation.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Newton said he studies is playbook at night!!! He isnt out there partying, and spending his new money! he is working hard to be the best he can be, & beat the hell out of all of the nay sayers.
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He doesnt have any ‘new money’ the panthers drafted his right, but are strictly bound from negotiating any contract until the lockout is lifted and a new CBA in place.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Said it yesterday you ignored it.
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# Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
lol. Good point, MB. Too bad it took you a day and half to come up with it.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 am
I agree that Al should stay away from both Palmer and Ocho… Both sound like whiny divas.. our new look Raiders have no time for that crap.. I do like the idea of Plax, though…
How about bringing in VY? Wasnt part of the discussion when looking at Ja-pork-asses ’supposed’ intangibles his abililty to run a little and extend drive with his feet just like Vince Young? Then why not just grab VY?? Any comments to that?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:05 am
Well, MB, I think your point is stupid, anyway. And doesn’t even apply to what I said.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:05 am
358.Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Dakota, then what do you mean he’s making a mistake by not releasing the photos? Just what consequences were you referring to?
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The constant questions by people like 666….no offense 666, but you are one of those guys who has some goofy thoughts about the trade towers right? The world-wide skepticism that would occur if the US simply said “trust us, we killed UBL”.
There will always be conspiracy theories, but the majority of them would be cut off from the beginning if the photos were released, well, now that 48 hours has passed bye, there will always be doubt, but some damage might be contained by a late release of the photos.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am
I heard the Mike and Mike interview, and I thought Cam was on point until he just started whining about how it wasn’t fair that he was asked to recite a long-worded play since he didn’t have any in college.
That point is fine, but his whole “you can’t hold it against me” victim act, was comical, and Freddie Coleman put him on blast for it last night.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 am
I think Mike Vick (Atlanta Falcon version) will be the ceiling for Newton. He will be electrifying at times, and will always have to be game planned for, but I dont see him winning a Lombardi. My opinion.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:08 am
You think its stupid imagine what I think of you.
The fact is he has no influence and he is a buffoon despite this 1 good thing he has done in 2.5 years.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am
No but socialist would love to shut down gitmo, stop CIA undercover work, abolish water boarding, etc.
Moron.
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:54 am
I am sure that killing OBL is some form of socialism.
LMAO!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:09 am
Dakota, why should the president care what conspiracy theorists think? What are the consequences of conspiracy theorists thinking that Bin Laden isn’t really dead? Historians will not give them the time of day. Neither will voters. Why should he care?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
Morons like 666, MR (Dust), and KK oppose military action and the war on terror and then drop to their knee’s when pres purp lips takes out 1 guy.
Pathetic.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Well, MB, I disagree with you. I think it takes a lot of influence to get to someone as powerful as Osama Bin Laden. And, O bama got him.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:11 am
Plaxico constantly was late to or even missed practice
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:12 am
Dust,
He is still a failure of a pres despite your sucking on him.
A year from now nobody will remember he took out OBL the economy will be fresh in our minds though.
2012
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:13 am
Morons like MistaBrown support military action and the war on terror….UNTIL O bama takes out Osama Bin Laden.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:13 am
Dust,
It took 0 influence and 100% intelligence efforts, all purp lips did was give the green light to the military, they did all the work.
You are dumb as sh!t.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
And I can see hour seriously you take the war on terror, MB, when you refer to Osama Bin Laden as “one guy”.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Mistic1,
How can you say that Al Davis and Hue Jackson are sold on Jason Campbell?
Campbell has yet to be offered a contract extension, and Al feverishly tried to trade up to take his replacement.
Meanwhile, Hue flat out said he wanted a young arm in camp, and benched Campbell 3 times last year.
I put the over/under on how many more starts Soup has in a Raider uniform at 13.
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JFB its simple. I said JC has everyone respect. JC will have to earn his extension, however this does not mean he doesnt have the respect of the raiders top to bottom.
I didnt say he was going to be given anything. Clearly based on Davis and hu jacks statements over the last few months, they are in full support of JC and impressed by him on several levels. hu jack saying he wanted to bring in a young arm doesnt mean he wants to replace JC either. With only 2 qbs’ under contract you need depth at the position, & why not bring in a young arm that you can develop. That is just practical business sense, a low risk diligent move that could produce a player for the future or a quality back up. So what.
i dont know if you noticed but, the raiders DIDNT draft a qb! We have no idea who they were targeting to move up and take, and they had chances to draft some of the qbs. They even passed on guys you along with others were so high on like kappy.
As much as you cant stand the idea, it does indeed appear that the raiders are ready to roll, and have hitched their wagon to JC & his rocket arm!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
“how”, not “hour”. lol
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Mistc the feeble minded
So its your job to defend a Qb thats not on our team?
One more time doucher, explain why you are so enamored with this guy, who by the way took less heat than Teblow did coming out of college and had similar college career?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
I like how the economy only became an issue for tea baggers in 2008.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Vegas how did you do on your draft predictions? You still think Solder will be a bust now that he is with NE and not with the Colts as you predicted?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
MB, O bama won without your vote in 2008, he’ll do it again next year.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
I couldn’t be happier we got OBL but purp lips gets very little cred. GW did all the heavy lifting. If purp lips had his way we would have never gone to Afghan and gitmo would be closed.
Good thing he doesn’t get his way much!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Al is not taking the Plaxico’s of the world any more.
He said it in his press conference, he said it when he tossed Jamarcus to the street, and he said it over the last few drafts.
No more knuckleheads.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
LOL….u got that right I didnt fall for the hope & change BS.
2012 he gets fired though.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
A military victory only goes so far in a presidential election, ask the first Bush. His numbers were at historic levels after the gulf war in early 1991, then only a few short months later in 1992 he was voted out due to the economy.
If Obamma doesn’t get the economy going he can claim he personally tracked UBL down and shot him himself, and it won’t help him in any election.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
MB, you are too naive to even be in this discussion if you think we would have gotten that intel without having some kind of a rapport with various leaders, rogue or organized, in the middle east. And, O bama has far more of those connections. All Bush had was the oil people over there. Nobody respected Bush. And, that’s why he never got to Bin Laden. O bama got him. Change you can believe in.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Is he more than 1 guy ?
What are you drinking or smoking? Its not even noon yet and you are blitzed?
lol
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# Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
And I can see hour seriously you take the war on terror, MB, when you refer to Osama Bin Laden as “one guy”.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Name one foreign country that was involved with that raid, you idiot.
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Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
MB, you are too naive to even be in this discussion if you think we would have gotten that intel without having some kind of a rapport with various leaders,
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
# bcz24 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
He doesnt have any ‘new money’ the panthers drafted his right, but are strictly bound from negotiating any contract until the lockout is lifted and a new CBA in place.
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Dont be silly. Any merchant in the world will extend cam Credit to buy anything he wants. The number on pick in the draft will get paid, and jewelers, car dealers, clothing stores, strip clubs are more than eager to get their hands on cams money, regardless of when he actually has the check. You know the routine “ill gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today”
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
BCZ,
Got the Kappy or Wiz pick right (kind of straddled the fence though, lol) and predicted we would not take a defensive lineman.
Also called the Moore selection (I had him in the 4th though). Predicted some other things but wiffed badly on some others.
I never liked Solder. I think he will be a big-time flop, no matter what team. Too tall and top-heavy.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
Sista Brown nose is angry!!!
Must suck to be a GOP sycophant about now!
The President did what “your” Bush administration could not do, period, now get off your period and stop crying.
Just get used to the president he will be around for a while.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
MB, you’re not happy we got Bin Laden. You don’t even think he’s significant. Earlier you referred to him as “one guy”.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:20 am
The end.
Dust when you sober up I’ll comeback and slap you around. In the meantime you and KK can take turns giving each other reach arounds.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
MB, make up your mind. Was capturing Bin Laden important, or not? One minute you’re downplaying it, the next minute you’re saying Bush deserves all of the credit for it. Credit for what? He’s just “one guy” right? Who’s the idiot?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am
Mistic
lay off the Kim Newton rants your starting to sound like his lover.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Brandon Bair
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
FA targets:
OG Harvey Dahl
OG/OT Marshall Yanda
OT Jammal Brown
DT Barry Cofield
DT Mike Patterson
DE Dave Ball
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Santana Moss
FB Lawrence Vickers
Personally? I’d like to see Dahl or Yanda in FA, and Mims/Bell, Silva/Lefeged, Bair/Thornton, and Williams as UDFAs.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 am
lol. Alright, run along, MB. While you’re gone, try to figure out if you think Bin Laden was a serious threat. On one hand you downplayed him, then you champion Bush for doing the “heavy lifting”. All you did today was come in here and prove the YOU are an idiot when it comes to politics and world issues. Brien yesterday, you today. I wonder who it will be tomorrow.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 am
The only slapping around I see happening in here today is the president slapping the GOP.
One more time I will reiterate my earlier statement:
It sure is nice reading all the hateful posts in here about our president rather than being the one writing them like i did from 2000-2008!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Great artical in the USA today weekend edition on BO and black unemployment.
Won’t let me post the link, but especially you KoolKell, should google “Dewayne Wickman article in usa today on black unemployment” for a good read.
My only political point of the day.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Wiz- starter
Barksdale- starter
Jones- 3rd back
Moore- they say he catches everything, don’t have that type of receiver on roster that can stay healthy
Gordon-blocking tight end will compete w/ Myers
Chekwa-one person called him a 1st rounder b4 injury
DVD-project
Ausberry-project
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 am
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that Cam should be able to make do until contract time.
http://m.cnbc.com/id/41577492/Under_Armour_Wins_The_Cam_Newton_Marketing_Race
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:28 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Mistc the feeble minded
So its your job to defend a Qb thats not on our team?
One more time doucher, explain why you are so enamored with this guy, who by the way took less heat than Teblow did coming out of college and had similar college career?
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What does Tebow have to do with anything i have posted toady?
I am a football fan, I enjoy qb play especially. Cam newton is one of the greatest players i have ever seen in college football history. He is revolutionizing football with his unique skill set. he is a continuation of a trend that has begun to take shape with the nfl qb position. He continues and improves the legacy, of qbs like lenny moore, marlin briscoe and so on.
Now i suggest you go back to your color by numbers, and finger painting if you find the my post to difficult to comprehend.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Wiz at a new position, Campbell playing a new position and than Barksdale as well on the right side?
Three guys under 24 playing a new position on the O-line in the NFL.
Please, let’s give Soup and Hue a chance!!!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
Have we found the weapons of mass destruction yet?
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Marlin Briscoe, lol!!!
That guy worked at the Beverly Hills office of the firm I worked for many years ago.
Big-time muni-bond broker.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
without a vet receiver coming in, getting DHB Murphy Ford Schilens and Moore ready for the bigtime will be a hellua task for Sanjay Lal
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:32 am
No surprise that JFB/VegasRaider chimes in on a discussion about O bama killing Bin Laden with a racist article in the USA Today that has nothing to do with it. lol. He must still be bitter over his failed career as a hip hop promoter in central California. From Tracy, California’s “Dame Dash” (lmfao) to selling bogus retirement plans to police in the desert. This man has lived the American dream. See you guys later.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Al is not taking the Plaxico’s of the world any more.
He said it in his press conference, he said it when he tossed Jamarcus to the street, and he said it over the last few drafts.
No more knuckleheads.
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Yeah. We need high-character choir boys. Who cares about talent? Don’t you wish the Raiders could have 52 more guys just like DHB??
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
“He is revolutionizing football” He has not played a single down in the NFL but yet he is revolutionizing football….OK
“He continues and improves the legacy, of qbs”
Again how is he doing this because simply got drafted….so did about 215 other guys in case you were wondering.
“Cam newton is one of the greatest players i have ever seen in college football history”
so was Doug Flutie, Danny Wuerffel, Tim Teblow
COME ON MAN just admit you have homosexual tendencies and you are in love with Kim Newton!
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
I do live the dream, you are correct.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:37 am
Debo,
There are plenty of players with talent who are not knuckleheads.
Al has been burned too much too often, he may go back to his old ways, but for now Jamarcus and Javon scared him straight.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:38 am
Cam Newton is gona be a beast in the NFL….he is tim tebow escept bigger, stronger, faster, more agile, with a much better arm. If he gets his feet set and stops throwing off of his back foot, he is very accurate.
People were so enamored with Gabbert, but he has an average arm, does not play up to his workout numbers, and didnt produce. He put up pedestrian numbers in a spread offense!!! The same offense that made Chase Daniel look like a star. For his career Gabbert threw for 40 touchdowns, Chase threw for 39 his senior year.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
Love how you Dems conveniently forget that Prez Clinton failed to capture UBL for about 3 years after the African embassy bombings…
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
Love how you Dems conveniently forget that Prez Clinton failed to capture UBL for about 3 years after the African embassy bombings…
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Bush failed for 6 and then for some reason dismantled the team that was tasked with his capture in 2006
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Why cant we just wait and see what Kim Newton is capable of in the NFL before we crown him.
Lets not forget that he is starting on a team that lost 14 games last year, lost their head coach will lose their #1 WR (Steve Smith)
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
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Tom Brady played in a pro style system. Gabbert threw for 40 touchdowns for his career while playing in the spread. His senior year Gabbert threw for 19td and 9int, wile playing in a spread offense
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
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You’re correct. But he was picked in the 6th round. Gabbert went #10.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
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Tom Brady played in a pro style system. Gabbert threw for 40 touchdowns for his career while playing in the spread. His senior year Gabbert threw for 19td and 9int, wile playing in a spread offense
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Actually, it was 16 tds and nine picks.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Palmer had a bad year and threw 20 int’s, but his production was actually better with young recievers like Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley in there.
I think he was disgusted with the OchoCinco and T.O. freakshow, and wants nothing to do with reuniting with them in Oakland or anywhere else
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Buckeye,
good point.
trade Jason Campbell & Louis Muprhy for Carson Palmer, straight up
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
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Tom Brady played in a pro style system. Gabbert threw for 40 touchdowns for his career while playing in the spread. His senior year Gabbert threw for 19td and 9int, wile playing in a spread offense
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Actually, it was 16 tds and nine picks.
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Thanx for the correction
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Palmer had a bad year and threw 20 int’s, but his production was actually better with young recievers like Jerome Simpson and Jordan Shipley in there.
I think he was disgusted with the OchoCinco and T.O. freakshow, and wants nothing to do with reuniting with them in Oakland or anywhere else
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Buckeye,
good point.
trade Jason Campbell & Louis Muprhy for Carson Palmer, straight up
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There was a time when Palmer was the third best QB in the league, those days are long gone. He is immobile and doesn’t even slide in the pocket these days. He has that knee injury that scares me and more and more sems to force balls that are picked or nearly picked. I’d rather roll the dice one more year with JC and pick up our QB of the future next draft. JC played well down the stretch and should only improve with another year in the system
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Q: Is it out of the realm of possibility for the New England Patriots to package a number of picks to whatever poor team ends up with the No. 1 overall pick next year to go get Andrew Luck — the QB that could well replace Tom Brady? It always seems like the Pats are stockpiling picks for a reason. Do you think Bill Belichick has that much foresight?
– Kevin (R.I.)
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
it would be kinda funny if we brought in McNabb to take Jasons job again
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BCZ,
I don’t think McNabb is THAT much better than Campbell.
Even though his 2011 salary is only $1.75 million, he gets a $10 million option bonus + $750,000 in per-game roster bonus + annual $250,000 workout bonuses
JCamp is in the last year of his contract and due a non-guaranteed salary of $4.5 million
Redskins finished 6-10 last year. Raiders 8-8
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
430.severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
Love how you Dems conveniently forget that Prez Clinton failed to capture UBL for about 3 years after the African embassy bombings…
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Bush failed for 6 and then for some reason dismantled the team that was tasked with his capture in 2006
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That CIA team was dismantled because they were getting a little crazy, but the CIA simply assigned new assets to the mission.
But yes, Bush failed to get the job done and eventually the focus went to going after mare active terrorist elements to prevent future attacks. Sounds like a great strategy, especially since it worked.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
I am no Soup fan by any means, but I would much rather have him over McNabb, and all things equal I would take Palmer, but not if we have to give up draft picks to acquire him.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
As much as I pick on Gabbert, I do it with caution. I like his release, and he seems deadly accurate in the short to intermediate range. Time will yell with the guy. I just get annoyed when people say Cam has a sense of entitlement and Gabbert got a free pass throughout the draft process. Cam won three national titles in three years in college and the Heisman trophy, along with countless other awards. He had a multi-million dollar contract in hand before the draft process even started, yet he worked out for the media and threw at the combine. Gabbert wasn’t even in the same universe as Cam in terms of on-field accomplishments, but declined to throw at the combine. I still don’t get that move. I’ve got to assume scouts secretly held that against him. How else can you explain Locker going ahead of him too?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“Osama bin Laden was not armed when a U.S. Navy Seal shot and killed him during Sunday’s raid, a White House spokesman said today, contrary to previous accounts provided by Obam(m)a administration officials.”
It woould be nice if they could get their story straight…..
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
why is there an incessant need to defend the Bush administration.
Please tell me again what he did so well that we should all be thankful for?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Tom Brady threw for 35 collegiate TD’s, even less than Gabbert did.
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Tom Brady played in a pro style system. Gabbert threw for 40 touchdowns for his career while playing in the spread. His senior year Gabbert threw for 19td and 9int, wile playing in a spread offense
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Actually, it was 16 tds and nine picks.
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Thanx for the correction
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No sweat.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
without a vet receiver coming in, getting DHB Murphy Ford Schilens and Moore ready for the bigtime will be a hellua task for Sanjay Lal
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no love for Ausberry or Nick Miller?
me neither, LOL
sign Terrell Owens!
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Cam won three national titles in three years in college and the Heisman trophy, along with countless other awards.
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What?????
Cam was kicked off the Gators team a week before the national championship game.
And please spare me the JC story. Aaron Rodgers threw 29 TD’s to 0 INT’s in one year of junior college, should he get some type of collegiate record for that??
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I think Al Davis should sign Vince Young as a talented athlete and then after he’s under contract, make him play WR like Eldridge Dickey … just to piss off Kell!
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I’ll eat my hat if there is ONE great QB in this year’s draft class.
My money is on this QB draft class being ridiculed as one of the worst cases of overreaching in NFL history.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Cam won three national titles in three years in college and the Heisman trophy, along with countless other awards.
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What?????
Cam was kicked off the Gators team a week before the national championship game.
And please spare me the JC story. Aaron Rodgers threw 29 TD’s to 0 INT’s in one year of junior college, should he get some type of collegiate record for that??
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No, he was perfectly satisfied with his super bowl trophy and MVP lol. Did u actually use Aaron Rodgers as your example smh.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I hated Cambpell early but he continued to show improvement as the season went on, let’s see what he can do year 2 in Hues offense. Palmer was horrible last season
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
All of a sudden Juco national championships count towards something.
Hey I was on a Juco baseball team that played in the California championship!!!!!
Unfortunately, pro teams put a little more stock in what Long Beach State players were doing than what Butte College guys were.
Can anyone name any other player that won a JuCo championship? At any position?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
430.severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
Love how you Dems conveniently forget that Prez Clinton failed to capture UBL for about 3 years after the African embassy bombings…
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Bush failed for 6 and then for some reason dismantled the team that was tasked with his capture in 2006
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That CIA team was dismantled because they were getting a little crazy, but the CIA simply assigned new assets to the mission.
But yes, Bush failed to get the job done and eventually the focus went to going after mare active terrorist elements to prevent future attacks. Sounds like a great strategy, especially since it worked.
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The worst attack on American soil happened under his watch, so i dont care what he did after the fact, he should have been on the job as soon as he was sworn in. He went after more attractive targets but was less effective eliminating them in 8 years than BHO has been in his last 3 years
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
“He is revolutionizing football” He has not played a single down in the NFL but yet he is revolutionizing football….OK
“He continues and improves the legacy, of qbs”
Again how is he doing this because simply got drafted….so did about 215 other guys in case you were wondering.
“Cam newton is one of the greatest players i have ever seen in college football history”
so was Doug Flutie, Danny Wuerffel, Tim Teblow
COME ON MAN just admit you have homosexual tendencies and you are in love with Kim Newton!
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1.) Yes he is revolutionizing football. The offense he ran in college is one of the hottest schemes in football. Nfl & college coaches are studying various aspects of that sort of spread offense. In my opinion cam rabn it better & accomplished more in that offense than anyone I have ever seen.
2.) I said “Newton is one of the greatest I have ever seen” This is strictly my view and opinion. You may have fluite, wuerffel, and tebow in you all time great list, but they dont even get a sniff on mine. We clearly evaluate qbs’ through different criteria.
3.) You are really boring me with this internet tough guy, cyber thug trash. You must get beaten up a lot, rejected often and picked last in dodge ball.I understand this is your only refuge, and only place i the world where you can pretend to brave enough to call names.
Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
All of a sudden Juco national championships count towards something.
Hey I was on a Juco baseball team that played in the California championship!!!!!
Unfortunately, pro teams put a little more stock in what Long Beach State players were doing than what Butte College guys were.
Can anyone name any other player that won a JuCo championship? At any position?
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JPP, Chad Johnson, and Steve Smith(Car) all were JuCo transfers
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
453.severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
The worst attack on American soil happened under his watch, so i dont care what he did after the fact, he should have been on the job as soon as he was sworn in. He went after more attractive targets but was less effective eliminating them in 8 years than BHO has been in his last 3 years.
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Strange how you Dems think….it is okay to blame Bush for the first 2+ years of Prez Obamma’s failed economic policy, but Bush was responsible for allowing 9-11 to occur despite being on the job for less than 9 months and Clinton having failed to stop the guy for more than 3 years?
I see how you think.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Nick Fairley and James carpenter are some more draftees that went to a JC
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Did they win a championship?? Does anyone even care what they did at the Juco level?
Of course not.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Cam won three national titles in three years in college and the Heisman trophy, along with countless other awards.
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What?????
Cam was kicked off the Gators team a week before the national championship game.
And please spare me the JC story. Aaron Rodgers threw 29 TD’s to 0 INT’s in one year of junior college, should he get some type of collegiate record for that??
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Looks to me that what A Rod did in JC was a sign of things to come at Cal and the NFL. Dominance translates. That’s my problem with Gabbert. He didn’t dominate, but rolled into the combine like he was King Schitt. Too bad for him the scouts for Carolina, Buffalo, Cincy, San Francisco and Tennesee didn’t agree.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Since this Juco stuff seems so important, let’s overanalyze Cam’s performance in it.
11-25 for 118 yards, 0 TD’s 1 int, long completion of 18 yards, 2 sacks and a safety taken.
http://www.njcaa.org/Teams/football/2009/09_NJCAA_FOOTBALL_CHAMP_STATS.htm
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Stupidvillain
Man you sure do cry a lot for a wanna be tough guy.
The offense he ran in college was one of the most simplistic offensives in all of college football. In fact it was so simple that they used colors to call plays instead of basic football terminology. (can you say dummied down)
Dude you really need to read more before you come off looking so ignorant here.
I feel for you because your intellect or lack of is showing and sorry to hurt your chat feelings but it seems to me that words on a computer screen have such an effect on your emotions that you might want to chose another hobby.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Dakota Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
453.severeraiderz Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
The worst attack on American soil happened under his watch, so i dont care what he did after the fact, he should have been on the job as soon as he was sworn in. He went after more attractive targets but was less effective eliminating them in 8 years than BHO has been in his last 3 years.
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Strange how you Dems think….it is okay to blame Bush for the first 2+ years of Prez Obamma’s failed economic policy, but Bush was responsible for allowing 9-11 to occur despite being on the job for less than 9 months and Clinton having failed to stop the guy for more than 3 years?
I see how you think.
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Im in a independent, get ur facts staright….its just as stange that in Bush’s 8th year in office they were still trying to blame Clinton for the economic collapse lol. The Bush admin had intel that said a AQ was trying to strike in the united states using airplanes and did nothing with it. Also the economic collapse started under Bush, and has gotten better under BHO. I think that it should be much better right now, but it is far better than what it would have been under the failed trickle down economics of the W administration. That tard took a massive surplus and turned it into a huge deficit. Reagan, Clinton, and Bush set us up for this recession with their policy of deregulation. Bush compounded that problem with the biggest tax cut in history.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
This should silence the Kim Newton lover:
This year, Gruden has exposed one of the stated concerns regarding the man widely expected to be the first pick in the draft: Cam Newton.
In a segment from Gruden’s second annual QB Camp playing currently in the perpetual SportsCenter loop, the former Raiders and Bucs coach tries to show Newton how different an NFL offense will be from the one he ran at Auburn.
“You know, some of this verbiage in the NFL, I don’t know how it was at Auburn, but it’s — it’s long. You’ve got the shifts, the plays, the protections, the snap count, the alert, the check-with-mes,” Gruden said, snapping his fingers after listing each element of an NFL play call.
Then Gruden rattled one off: “I mean, flip right, double-X, Jet, 36 counter, naked waggle, X-7, X-quarter.” As Gruden was firing off that play, Newton shook his head and smiled, as if he’d never head before anything like that, ever.
Then Gruden pounced.
“Call something at Auburn that’s a little verbal,” Gruden said, obviously knowing the answer to the question. “What would be a little verbal? Any recollection on that?
Newton: “Um.”
“Gimme something,” Gruden said. “What’s an Auburn play sound like?”
“I mean, you’re putting me on the — on the spot,” Newton said.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/jon-gruden-puts-cam-newton-on-the-spot/
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I gaurantee you they held it againsyt Gabbert for not throwinmg at the combine. His #’s were pedestrian at best and he acted liek his #’s resembled Payton Mannings. He was arrogant………period
While I do think he will be a pretty good player and has a high ceiling I still think he hasa serious bust factor similar to what I saw with Eli Manning and Alex Smith he lacks a competitive edge.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The NFL, particulary Carolina, seems to think the JC experience is worth looking into, even if you don’t JFB. Call me crazy, but I think I’ll go with the scouts on this one. LOL!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/04/10/mmqb/index.html
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The guy who is revolutionizing the NFL does not know one piece of NFL play calling terminology.
Where is the logic in this?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I would not have taken Blaine in the top 30, and that has nothing to do with talent or production and everything to do with attitude and leadership (seemed very timid and borderline sissified in the whole Gruden camp thing).
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Call me crazy, but I think I’ll go with the scouts on this one. LOL!
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Except, of course, when it comes to scouts takes on Jamarcus Russell, than they all don’t know what they are talking about.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mistic1 Tha Stupidvillain
Man you sure do cry a lot for a wanna be tough guy.
The offense he ran in college was one of the most simplistic offensives in all of college football. In fact it was so simple that they used colors to call plays instead of basic football terminology. (can you say dummied down)
Dude you really need to read more before you come off looking so ignorant here.
I feel for you because your intellect or lack of is showing and sorry to hurt your chat feelings but it seems to me that words on a computer screen have such an effect on your emotions that you might want to chose another hobby.
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Spread offenses are all over football right now. This is another version, and many coaches have gone to auburn just to study it, regardless of the methods used to signal or call plays. Auburns offense is highly sought after at this very moment based purely on what Cam was able to do with it. Im sorry but those are the facts.
I would never type into a computer screen things that i couldnt or wouldnt say to another mans face. Hurling pointless insults only makes you a digi-thug,and that is all.
Like I said…Boring
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
JFB
Still hatin on Cam Newton?
Guess what, the Prez got bin-Ladin!
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Debo I agree 100% on Gabbert he thought Mike mayock would get him picked #1 overall but he didn’t understand Mayock is NOT a GM. He’s a talking head who pumps ups guys he likes and disparages players he doesn’t and it sometimes bleeds into the persoanl crap. Everything in New England Boston Massechusetts is second to NONE. If fatboy Charlie Weis has anything to do with anything Mayock will swear by it. If Bill Belichik craps he thinks it’s GOLD. He is the biggest blowhard on NFLN. He needs to stop reading his press clippings and be a little more objective……….period
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I really wanted to draft Byron Bell, but after we took Barksdale, we could have brought back Barksdale and Bell, Stringer and Avon….. B & B enterprises!!!!
Where’s Boody, Big Charles, Cutty and We-Bay?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
666 that is the most overstated and misunderstood conversation they were talking terminology and the Auburn system’s terminology is lightyears different from what Gruden is used to and Cam was trying to the think if there was anything is his system similar to what Gruden was referring to. It took him a minute to mentally review the playbook because they go on a NUMBER system while Gruden uses a Alpha system that’s all that was……………period
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Let me get this straight there are NFL coaches going to Auburn to study their offense?
Man that is real funny you just made my day, thank you.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Call me crazy, but I think I’ll go with the scouts on this one. LOL!
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Except, of course, when it comes to scouts takes on Jamarcus Russell, than they all don’t know what they are talking about.
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On the contrary. The scouts loved JR. That’s why he was the #1 overall pick, remember?
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
To Break that conversation down further it’s like the WCO is like reading “War and Peace” while the Aunurn system is like reading the readers digest version of War and Peace. or reading it in short hand. That’s the best analogy I can come up with.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Priesttj
But seriously, do you think Gruden is going to Auburn to study their offense?
In regars to your post all Kim Newton had to do was rattle off one of his plays with Auburn terminology as was asked of him. Not to compare Gruden’s plays calling terminology to that of Auburn’s, Gruden just wanted to hear him call out a play any high school QB could have done it.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Priesttj
I understand what you are saying but the guy has been arguing all morning that Kim Newton is currently revolutionizing the NFL.
Need to be reminded that Carolina was 2-14 has a new unproven head coach and is losing their #1 WR.
Newton has his work cut out for him before he “REVOLUTIONIZES the NFL.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I think Cam will emerge as a solid QB, maybe a Donovan McNabb type.
But that will be after he flames out in Carolina.
That is not going to work.
Since the NFL draft, there has been something like 10 times a team drafted a QB in the first round with a rookie HC, and none of those teams ever even made the playoffs.
Odds are not on Cam’s side in Carolina.
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
WizII is going to take over at guard in the absence of Gallery, and Satele is going to remain at Center, until we can find someone to replace WizII at guard, he will be learning Center from Satele..
Mark it down.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Let me get this straight there are NFL coaches going to Auburn to study their offense?
Man that is real funny you just made my day, thank you.
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SilverandCRACK,
As usual you have crapped in your pants & embarrassed yourself. Cam said live on Mike & Mike, college and NFL COACHES have been out to auburn to study gus malzahns version of the spread.
This board seems a bit over your head at this point…….. Try finger painting
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Its ok little guy I understand you got your feelings hurt because of your man crush on Mr Newton, then your ignorance was exposed for all to see on top of it. Must be humiliating, I will leave you alone now so you can go tell everyone how Cam Newton will Revolutionize the NFL on a 2-14 team.
By the way colleges get accused of using pro style offenses not the other way around.
WOW the Packers sure are winning more games once the moved to the coveted Auburn spread offense. ROTFLMAO
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
The blog doormat, Krappy, is hard at work again.
Kane must be so proud of you, Krap Krap, with all those listings.
So must your wife, who works so hard to make sure you get out of squalor, knowing she can count of you for support.
For some reason, the website shows you have zero listings.
Go clean out your drawers from your morning hot pocket, and get that website fixed.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Wasn’t Malzahn the guy who got pissed at Houston Nutt in Arkansas, because Gus wanted to throw the ball 50 times with his former HS QB Mitch Mustang, while Nutt had the gall to want to run the ball with McFadden and Felix Jones?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Mickie, coach Jackson is not going to sacrifice his word.
Center = Mr. Wisniewski/ Guards = Mr. Loper & Mr. Campbell with backup being Mr. Satele. Al will pay Samson to stay.
OTs will be Mr. Vehldeer and Mr. Barksdale, just not sure which will be left or right.
Although we could see interior line consisting of
LT ?(Gaither, Dahl, Light), LG Vehldeer, C Wisniewski, RG Campbell, RT Barksdale.
with backups being Loper & Satele, and another free agent.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Oh man, KrappyKell, I think you should go to small claims court.
I just ran across that picture of the wife, being laughed at by the locals in Botswana.
That is a $3.00 bowlcut, and you paid $10.00?
Sue for $500.00.
$7.00 for the cut, and the rest pain and suffering.
Just looking at that, Krap Krap, gives me the willies, and I feel I should be a fellow plaintiff on the pain and suffering part!
Holla Krappy!
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Beecham
I’ll be in Shanghai 9/27 – 10/5, you?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Beecham is shocking, that you’re still infatuated with me after all these years.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Debo I agree 100% on Gabbert he thought Mike mayock would get him picked #1 overall but he didn’t understand Mayock is NOT a GM. He’s a talking head who pumps ups guys he likes and disparages players he doesn’t and it sometimes bleeds into the persoanl crap. Everything in New England Boston Massechusetts is second to NONE. If fatboy Charlie Weis has anything to do with anything Mayock will swear by it. If Bill Belichik craps he thinks it’s GOLD. He is the biggest blowhard on NFLN. He needs to stop reading his press clippings and be a little more objective……….period
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So true. This guy has really started to get on my nerves. Unlike real scouts, he can say whatever the hell he wants without accountability. Big difference. Kiper has been questioned about pumping up the prospects of his agent buddies. That’s why I take what all these guys have to say with a grain of salt. It’s definitely entertaining, but ultimately the pro scouts speak loudest on draft day.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Boody = dead
Stringer = dead
Cutty – dead
We-Bay – Orlando’s watching girls dance?
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Just Fire Baby Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I really wanted to draft Byron Bell, but after we took Barksdale, we could have brought back Barksdale and Bell, Stringer and Avon….. B & B enterprises!!!!
Where’s Boody, Big Charles, Cutty and We-Bay?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Its ok little guy I understand you got your feelings hurt because of your man crush on Mr Newton, then your ignorance was exposed for all to see on top of it. Must be humiliating, I will leave you alone now so you can go tell everyone how Cam Newton will Revolutionize the NFL on a 2-14 team.
By the way colleges get accused of using pro style offenses not the other way around.
WOW the Packers sure are winning more games once the moved to the coveted Auburn spread offense. ROTFLMAO
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twist and turn all you want but you cant worm your way out of this.
Bottom line, nfl coaches study under college coaches and college coaches study under pro coaches all of the time. It doesnt mean that NFL coaches will suddenly change their offense and trade playbooks with auburn. It only means that coaches want to be on the cutting edge and may use some concepts in their own offense.
Please go take your nap, and stop acting like a baby. You opened your mouth but didnt know what you were talking about.
NEXT!!!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
KK, only 10 more hours until you logoff Jerry’s blog!
Wow what a day eh, the wife cant stop talking about you at the barbershop I bet.
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KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Beecham is shocking, that you’re still infatuated with me after all these years.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
DeboGlenn, you still sucking on JaMeatballs teets ?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
KK, only 10 more hours until you logoff Jerry’s blog!
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BrownStained,are you the blog timekeeper. How much do you get paid for it?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
KK, isn’t there anything else you can do with your time or is this your life?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
And you’re still crying in your milk because Oak didn’t trade into the top five to draft a FB! Feel lucky SilverandBlack is around to take Idiot Poster of the Decade. You’re right on her heels though.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
525.MistaBrown Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
KK, isn’t there anything else you can do with your time or is this your life?
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What’s it to you, stinky?
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Denarius Moore will surprise alot of ppl for a 5th round pick. If he would have had a decent qb he would of been a top prospect.Plus he didnt have the same coach for every year. This kid has solid hand he loves football and is quick. Im super juiced about this pick. Plus he went for 6 receptions 223 yards and 1 Td against the Whiners 3rd pick Chris Culliver.
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Its ok little guy I understand you got your feelings hurt because of your man crush on Mr Newton, then your ignorance was exposed for all to see on top of it. Must be humiliating, I will leave you alone now so you can go tell everyone how Cam Newton will Revolutionize the NFL on a 2-14 team.
By the way colleges get accused of using pro style offenses not the other way around.
WOW the Packers sure are winning more games once the moved to the coveted Auburn spread offense. ROTFLMAO
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twist and turn all you want but you cant worm your way out of this.
Bottom line, nfl coaches study under college coaches and college coaches study under pro coaches all of the time. It doesnt mean that NFL coaches will suddenly change their offense and trade playbooks with auburn. It only means that coaches want to be on the cutting edge and may use some concepts in their own offense.
Please go take your nap, and stop acting like a baby. You opened your mouth but didnt know what you were talking about.
NEXT!!!!!
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Don’t even bother man. This dork sees one 15-minute tidbit on TV from Gruden and he thinks he’s got the book on Cam. “Never mind the scouting process. Cam is dumb because Gruden said so”. Idiot sheep!
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/5/2/2149008/top-25-undrafted-players-from-the-2011-nfl-draft
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Just seen a highlight on ESPN about the Saints (Drew Brees) holding OTA’s just like they would be if they were in camp!
I wish Campbell could get everyone ready….somebody??
Anybody??
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
531.r8eray Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Just seen a highlight on ESPN about the Saints (Drew Brees) holding OTA’s just like they would be if they were in camp!
I wish Campbell could get everyone ready….somebody??
Anybody??
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Me too, but the Raiders are sooooooo Al Davis centric, I don’t think the players are as heavily invested in the project, as with other organizations where Coaches & Players have more input and emotional investment.
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
QB Jerrod Johnson (#1 overall) and OLB Mark Herzlich (10th Round) were drafted in the UFL draft yesterday.
AS well as two of my Fresno State Bulldogs: QB Ryan Colburn (3rd overall) and WR Jamel Hamler (6th Round).
It is unclear if any players will sign contracts with the UFL as that would keep them out of the NFL for the entire season, if the NFL season ever starts.
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
QB Pat Devlin was told that he’d have to sign a contract but he didn’t want to.
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I could waste some time to properly convey the genuine distaste I have for Senior Beeecham. However, I will just leave it short and simple….
BEEECHAM IS A FUKING FAG!!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Hey Beeech,
Hows that pickle-sniffin class?
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Demon Raider Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
QB Jerrod Johnson (#1 overall) and OLB Mark Herzlich (10th Round) were drafted in the UFL draft yesterday.
AS well as two of my Fresno State Bulldogs: QB Ryan Colburn (3rd overall) and WR Jamel Hamler (6th Round).
It is unclear if any players will sign contracts with the UFL as that would keep them out of the NFL for the entire season, if the NFL season ever starts.
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I like Jerrod Johnson, i’ve been saying for a week that i wish we would take a flyer on him and sign him as a third stringer. He may be better off going to the UFL and getting a season of experience though.
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
anybody think Miami & Memphis can make it 2-0 against Boston & OKC ???
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Brees-organized player workout draws 37 Saints to Tulane
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I wonder how many Raiders would show up to Cal or Berkeley if Jason Campbell invited them?
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Damn you Rockstar, you jinxed the Lakers!
I am going to kick your azz next time I see you!
May 3rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Just kidding Rockstar….no need to call the authorities!
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Speaking of Bin-Ladin….
Search out Ron White “They call me tater salad.” download track 12 “Osama Bin-Ladin” The best $1.99 you’ll ever spend.
You can thank me later….
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
hey guys…
totally non-fooball-related… but please help..
Im thinking of a movie, where an old man tells a story about two one-legged men. Whom both meet once a year to buy a pair of sho3s, since they have same size and only have use for one of the sho3s, because one has a left, the other right leg…
can anybody help out here? what movie is that from???
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
VIDEO: Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT) Denies Existence Of Billions In Special Oil Subsidies
Earlier this year, the GOP voted in lockstep to extend
billions in tax breaks to oil companies. The subsidies include special tax breaks only available to oil and gas companies. For instance, there is the “Intangible Drilling Costs” tax break ($7.8 billion over ten years); a deduction for “tertiary,” or enhanced oil recovery methods ($67 million over ten years); and the percentage depletion allowance for owners of oil wells ($10 billion over ten years).
Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT), a staunch ally of polluters and top recipient of oil industry campaign contributions, was asked last week at the Toole County Republican convention if he supports such tax breaks to big oil. An incredulous Bishop retorted that “there are no special subsidies or tax breaks for oil companies, period.” Rather, Bishop claimed that there is a media conspiracy to fool the public into believing in oil subsidies:
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
The Raiders get a C for this draft…like the later picks better than our first 2. I like DVD as a player and he has huge upside, but Curtis Brown should have been the pick there
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Man, Mendenhall jus f’d up big time. He should know the steel city was gonna be up in arms about that
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
RaiderDeblow plays chat referee
Keep your nose in your own smelly mess I see you make a lot of friends in here as well.
The retards are joining together to form a union of feeble minded posters to gang up on intelligent people.
I come in here for entertainment only and you two piles of sheep dung provide it for me.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
LMN, a movie with Matt Damon…right?
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Politico reports that supporters of George W. Bush are “irked” that the former president isn’t getting more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden, despite the droves of conservatives lawmakers and pundits who have been rushing to give Bush equal credit as O-bama.
But this praise for Bush relies on rewriting history to obscure the fact O-bama re-prioritized the hunt for Bin Laden after Bush had largely abandoned the effort to focus on Iraq.
While many conservatives are triumphantly replaying Bush’s September 2001 declaration that he would find Bin Laden, just months later, by Bush’s own account, he was unconcerned about the terrorist mastermind. Asked about the hunt for Bin Laden at a March, 2002 press conference, Bush said, “I truly am not that concerned about him. I am deeply concerned about Iraq.” “I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you,” Bush added.
By 2006, the trail for Bin Laden had gone “stone cold” and Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes said Bush told him that hunting Bin Laden was “not a top priority use of American resources.” (Indeed, there was a flailing war in Iraq to fight.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
I come in here for entertainment only and you two piles of sheep dung provide it for me.
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Your life sounds pretty boring. I come here because I’m passionate about the Raiders, as most of us do. Except the Trolls, like you.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
#
# r8eray Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
LMN, a movie with Matt Damon…right?
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if you are thinking of ‘Stuck on you’ then know…
its more like ‘O Brother where art thou’ or ‘The Straight story’
they are not siamese, as I recall they lost their legs in WW2…
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Go ahead, Republicans. Keep bringing up Bush. Keep connecting him to your party, so Americans can be reminded of your role in the economic mess. They can’t help themselves.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
MB was just too much earlier. Came in here and said Bin Laden was merely “one guy”, so nobody should be excited. When i called him out on how stupid that was, he flopped over and tried to give Bush the credit for taking him out. Oh, so now all of a sudden Bin Laden is more than “one guy”, and matters? OK…. LMFAO. Boy was he twisting in the wind. What a moron. And then he leaves, promising to “smack” me around later. Wow. If he calls embarrassing himself in the fashion he did a smack down, I hope he does come in and smack me down again! He’s a load.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
SevereRaiderz, how did Mendenhall mess up?
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I think out vet FA wide reciever should be Plaxico, he’ll be looking for redemption like Vick so he should be on his best behavior.
Also he is a big target for Jcamp, can get the jump balls unlike most of our young speedster receivers now.
We need a reliable target that can move the chains on 3rd down.
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Nation what do you think of getting Clausen from Carolina and sitting him behind Jcamp for a while?
Hes still young, and amy be able to benefit from bench development
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
SevereRaiderz, how did Mendenhall mess up?
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Tweeted that people are wrong for celebrating the death of another human being and how could they judge him if they never heard him speak. Then he said that he doesn’t believe that an airplane could take out a skyscraper “demolition” style
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Raidertalk Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Nation what do you think of getting Clausen from Carolina and sitting him behind Jcamp for a while?
Hes still young, and amy be able to benefit from bench development
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Clausen is a spoiled brat of a QB with loads of talent. He has questionable intangibles and leadership. Worked out of a pro style system but he throws an inconsistent deep ball.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
What do you think is going to happen to him, SevereRaiderz?
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
What’s interesting to me is that a lot of people who are angry at Mendenhall have been saying some of the same things that he’s said in the past couple of days, in efforts to downplay O bama’s credit.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
First time for a while I’m actually intrigued and not disgusted by the Oline. Atleast the right side can only get better.
I remember the Titans game, the tackles just seemed to let them romp on Jcamp. JCamp got up looked at his linemen and took a knee.
The linemen didn’t even seem to regret it. Jcamp looked shocked by the lack of heart in his line and did’nt recover for about four games.
Wiz 2.0 should at least bring some of that heart, although I’m still left with a bad taste in my mouth about these LSU kids all talent no desire; so hopefully Wiz can ruboff on this Barksdale kid.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@ Severeraiderz,
Yeah I kind of thought so. I saw the interview that Gruden did with Clausen last year. He looked overwhelmed and at the same time cocky with Gruden. Dude looked like he needed a lot of maturity.
Do you think he can grow out of it if he sits?
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Gust372 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
What’s interesting to me is that a lot of people who are angry at Mendenhall have been saying some of the same things that he’s said in the past couple of days, in efforts to downplay O bama’s credit.
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People on the right just refuse to give BHO any credit for anything….partly because he is a liberal, but mostly because he is black IMO. he has done some very good things, and there are things that i wish he would do better
In terms of Mendenhall, best case scenario he takes a lot of heat from the media and is asked uncomfortable questions about his political views. Worst case scenario is that he becomes the focal point of protests and loses sponsorships.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
485.RaiderRetribution Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Mickie, coach Jackson is not going to sacrifice his word.
Center = Mr. Wisniewski/ Guards = Mr. Loper & Mr. Campbell with backup being Mr. Satele. Al will pay Samson to stay.
OTs will be Mr. Vehldeer and Mr. Barksdale, just not sure which will be left or right.
Although we could see interior line consisting of
LT ?(Gaither, Dahl, Light), LG Vehldeer, C Wisniewski, RG Campbell, RT Barksdale.
with backups being Loper & Satele, and another free agent.
Heard he gets burned by speed rushers but very powerful so maybe better suited on the inside with the fleet of foot maybe Cambpell at RT
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Raidertalk Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@ Severeraiderz,
Yeah I kind of thought so. I saw the interview that Gruden did with Clausen last year. He looked overwhelmed and at the same time cocky with Gruden. Dude looked like he needed a lot of maturity.
Do you think he can grow out of it if he sits?
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He has to look within himself and find it. He can either view having a QB drafted above him and having to sit as a sign that he has to self improve, or he can take the Jamarcus route of everyone is against me and play the victim. I think that he will play the victim, but thats just me. He doesnt come off as being particularly hungry and motivated to be better than where he was drafted. Its almoast as if he thinks everything should be handed to him and that he would take the NFL by storm just because of who he was.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Veldheer Cambpell and Barksdale are 3 very powerful young guys on our OL
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Veldheer Cambpell and Barksdale are 3 very powerful young guys on our OL
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Really? I can’t really say that. Who knows. I can say they’re green as hell, though.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
It seems that we drafted some good talent instead of the retreads of the Cable era. Although a probowl FA would’nt be bad.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
What do you guys think of Plaxico? He has great size and should be looking to redeem himself?
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
I’ll take Plaxico at min wages, for a look see.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I would sign Plax..
but guys like Breaston, Sidney Rice, Early Doucet, Reggie Kelly..
would be nice addition, so we at least had some vets around to show the youngsters the rope…
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:48 pm
# raidertalk Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
It seems that we drafted some good talent instead of the retreads of the Cable era. Although a probowl FA would’nt be bad.
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the best drafts we have had in over 20 years was during Cable reign..
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
I and many others believed that we reached when selecting Wiz II, my queston is if he had a different last name would he have been the pick???
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Numbers issued…
Ausberry #86
Barksdale #72
Chekwa #35
Gordon #82
Jones #36
Moore #17
Van Dyke #38
Wisniewski #61
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@La Milicia Negra Says:
The thing with Cable that I did not understand was his evaluation of the Tackle (o-Line) position: Kwanne Harris, Erik Pears, Marcus Johnson, Khalif Barnes etc. Dude never seemed to bring in FA talent to man the O-line.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
How much did cable have to do with us drafting JFORD???
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Cable is a ZBS guy, Davis is a One on One guy. Never came together.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
yet again no #78..
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Jon Becker <—— A commie that practices censorship.
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
#78 was Shell’s number, right?
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
# Thec07 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
How much did cable have to do with us drafting JFORD???
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dunno, but that doesnt change during Cable’s stay either as assistant or HC we had the best drafts in over 20 years…
now he is gone, we made crazy reaches and track-team selections…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Thec07
Speaking of conspiracy theories, and not believing everything you’re told
Do you have a pictures of Ham, or do you want to tell us Bible stories?
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
# Thec07 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
How much did cable have to do with us drafting JFORD???
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dunno, but that doesnt change during Cable’s stay either as assistant or HC we had the best drafts in over 20 years…
now he is gone, we made crazy reaches and track-team selections…
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So are you saying that cable was the sound force in the 2010 draft…..Right…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Thec07
Speaking of conspiracy theories, and not believing everything you’re told
Do you have a pictures of Ham, or do you want to tell us Bible stories?
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Hello Kell, hope all is well. No I do not have a picture of Ham, wish i did though would be worth a lot on ebay…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
#78 was Shell’s number, right?
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yeah and each year I ask why they never get a new #78, and each yeah Dakota or another guy say nobody would like to wear #78 since its a stupid, lame or a sizzy number…
I love it, since Art was a great player and I was born in 78 =)
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Cable also called the plays in 2009…was he not around for that draft????
Cable Should have been fired after the 2009 season…
He had no business calling plays, why I can get some of the Pro’s on this blog, or someone that plays madden who is a better play caller then him….
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Thec..
I dont know, I just think he migh have said something that made it more sane…
in 25 years Al drafted crazy, and suddenly in a 3 year span all was wise, nevermind the 1st round pick, that is a GM pick/trade, always has been, always will…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Well said.
Agreed 100%
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Thec07 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Jon Becker <—— A commie that practices censorship.
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Thec..
Im not talking about the coach or the assistant named Cable… im purely talking about the man named Cable during our drafts…
and he was clearly influencing our best drafts, to he wasnt is like saying there isnt milk in butter…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
If you are going to take a vet WR what is the criterion?
1. Play now.
2. contribute on the field with performace.
3. Contribute to the development of the young.
4. No off the field distractions.
5. Dedication to the game
6. Unselfishess.
7. Desire to get the NATION to the next level.
8. etc.
How many of the WR’s that have been disscussed remotely fit into the above criterion???
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Thec..
Im not talking about the coach or the assistant named Cable… im purely talking about the man named Cable during our drafts…
and he was clearly influencing our best drafts, to he wasnt is like saying there isnt milk in butter…
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hahahahaha….Okay he may have had the other forces ear however, i will say this, Hue Jackson had more to do with the NATION getting JFORD than cable…That I am certain….
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
whats good MBrown? hope all is well with you man….
Becker erased most of the conversations we all had yesterday…
Becker <—communist…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I have spent more than my fair share on this blog….
Time for me to exit stage left….
All you guys have a great evening….
1 NATION…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Thec,
Becker gives the libtard lefties like KK and MR free run to post anything & everything while people right of center get their acct banned.
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Great mix of topics today.
Not sure I’d call conspiracy theorist “idiots” after JFK, Nixon, Clinton’s Watergate, weapons of mass destruction, the U.S. Central Bank now being owned by European bankers, I mean, we KNOW governments throughout the world for millenniums have lied to its people, mostly for war propaganda.
Politics are likely much closer to “Wag the Dog” than the honest good guy vs bad guy we’d like to envision.
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
# Thec07 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Thec..
Im not talking about the coach or the assistant named Cable… im purely talking about the man named Cable during our drafts…
and he was clearly influencing our best drafts, to say he wasnt, is like saying there isnt milk in butter…
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hahahahaha….Okay he may have had the other forces ear however, i will say this, Hue Jackson had more to do with the NATION getting JFORD than cable…That I am certain….
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so now ONE pick in the 4th round makes a great draft, a total draft?
Bwahahhaha, Cable (and Kiffin) started a trend, Al never cared about.. and that was Heart! Hue picked that baton up…
if you look at our young players, nearly all the young starters is players with heart, those on practice squad is scholarship players, with fast feet, and no hands….
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
so now ONE pick in the 4th round makes a great draft, a total draft?
@La Milicia Negra Says:
Bwahahhaha, Cable (and Kiffin) started a trend, Al never cared about.. and that was Heart! Hue picked that baton up…
if you look at our young players, nearly all the young starters is players with heart, those on practice squad is scholarship players, with fast feet, and no hands….
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@La Milicia Negra Says:
For the record wern’t you against the Ford Pick? Said they should of drated Kaufka instead?
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
@LMN I reffering to the O-line, Cable just brought in retreads interms of FA linemen. Although now we have a solid core of young Olinemen. I guess 2 picks could be attibutable to Cable: Veldheer and BCamp, but everyone said that BCamp was Al’s choice.
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
BrownStains
You get your account banned because you have the ugliest personality in here. Plus you’re dumb. Maybe if you had the ability to articulate a little better?
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
yup..
or well, I wasnt aganst it, I just wanted Kafka more than Jford…
I like the kid a lot, but I still dont see him as probowler..
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Debo I agree 100% on Gabbert he thought Mike mayock would get him picked #1 overall but he didn’t understand Mayock is NOT a GM. He’s a talking head who pumps ups guys he likes and disparages players he doesn’t and it sometimes bleeds into the persoanl crap. Everything in New England Boston Massechusetts is second to NONE. If fatboy Charlie Weis has anything to do with anything Mayock will swear by it. If Bill Belichik craps he thinks it’s GOLD. He is the biggest blowhard on NFLN. He needs to stop reading his press clippings and be a little more objective……….period
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So true. This guy has really started to get on my nerves. Unlike real scouts, he can say whatever the hell he wants without accountability. Big difference. Kiper has been questioned about pumping up the prospects of his agent buddies. That’s why I take what all these guys have to say with a grain of salt. It’s definitely entertaining, but ultimately the pro scouts speak loudest on draft day.
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Gentlemen, I don’t think that there has ever been any truer statements than your 2 statements here!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
# raidertalk Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
@LMN I reffering to the O-line, Cable just brought in retreads interms of FA linemen. Although now we have a solid core of young Olinemen. I guess 2 picks could be attibutable to Cable: Veldheer and BCamp, but everyone said that BCamp was Al’s choice.
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ahh okay, but thats the zbs for yah…
Cable DID draft Veldheer and BCamp, but I guess BCamp pick was dictated by Al (as in if you dont get him you are screwed)… had it been all Al, we would have picked up BCamp in 1st round…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
btw..
for the record… My favorite WR on our roster is Murphy, Not JFord, but Jford sure as he11 is fast..
time for a smoke and a read.. see ya guys
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
LMN As far as Cable having an enfluence on recent drafts I’ll base that on what Mr Davis said about him when he didn’t re-sign him. He had about as much enfluence on recent drafts as you did. Especially last year Mr Davis is clear about him not being a factor in his plans for the future. There is no way he had an enfluence on that draft………..period
I thought Cable had something to do with it as well but now no way.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
“Had it been all left to Al we would’ve drafted BCamp in the first rnd”
You guys just don’t get it it’s always all up to AL if you have something to say he listens but he has the last word it’s always been that way. If you feel strongly about a player he’ll listen but WHERE he picks them is all up to him.
Where players get picked is strickly up to him he runs the draft in that way. If he wants a guy bad enough NOTHING you can say will make him wait to draft him. If He wanted Campbell in the 1st rnd HE would’ve darted him in the 1st rnd…………period
He took him where he wanted to take him.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
That’s where it gets a little crazy in here you got people who barely know football talking trash about people they hav eno clue about. If you don’t know something…..ask!
It’s the best way to gain info.
last year we drafted two Olineman and Campbell was drafted second so it’s obvious he got him where he wanted him. Mike Mayock doesn’t know everything about the Raiders eventhough you’d never be able to convince him of that.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
“Had it been all left to Al we would’ve drafted BCamp in the first rnd”
You guys just don’t get it it’s always all up to AL if you have something to say he listens but he has the last word it’s always been that way. If you feel strongly about a player he’ll listen but WHERE he picks them is all up to him.
Where players get picked is strickly up to him he runs the draft in that way. If he wants a guy bad enough NOTHING you can say will make him wait to draft him. If He wanted Campbell in the 1st rnd HE would’ve darted him in the 1st rnd…………period
He took him where he wanted to take him.
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Some guys want to blame Al for every bad pick and give him no credit for the good ones. Jacoby was a combine star that ran the fastest 40, classic Al Davis pick.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
560.Thec07 Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
If you are going to take a vet WR what is the criterion?
1. Play now.
2. contribute on the field with performace.
3. Contribute to the development of the young.
4. No off the field distractions.
5. Dedication to the game
6. Unselfishess.
7. Desire to get the NATION to the next level.
8. etc.
How many of the WR’s that have been disscussed remotely fit into the above criterion???
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Well, PLAXICO could be a distraction with a previous prison record, but he must TRY to redeem himself to get back in the league and make$$$ for all the lost time.
OCHOCINCO has no such incentive to redeem himself. He was more concerned last year with his TV shows to produce on the field.
As for mentoring the younger WRs on this team, PLAXICO has been to and won a SuperBowl. His EXPERIENCE during the playoffs will help our younger WRs in big games and in the event that we make the postseason.
I have never been as impressed with Chad than with PLAX talent-wise. I believe that Plax has a size advantage over Ocho anyway. (6-5, 226 vs. 6-1, 192)
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:37 pm
579.KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
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I agree the Raidas need to improve, but did’nt Jax, Carolina, Baltimore and Houston recieve SPECIAL TREATMENT because they were “new” franchises?
I’m not sure, but I think the got extra picks or something maybe tennesee too?
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Thec,
Becker gives the libtard lefties like KK and MR free run to post anything & everything while people right of center get their acct banned.
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We can add crybaby to your description along with blathering right wing idiot. Almost all of my comments from yesterday were deleted.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:39 pm
@michaelbush29 Michael Bush
I dont care about da saints workin out people please stop sending me that da raider players are taking care of business as well n other ways
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
BTW, it’s not communism to practice censorship on a private blog. It’s private. It’s like calling someone a communist for kicking someone out of their home. It’s their home. They own it. IBA owns this blog, they have the right to ban or moderate anyone they want, for any reason they want. Doesn’t surprise me the loud mouth right wing dolts in here didn’t know that. Between Brien and MB, I swear. You put both of the together and the IQ is still in the double digits.
May 3rd, 2011 at 6:57 pm
# priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
LMN As far as Cable having an enfluence on recent drafts I’ll base that on what Mr Davis said about him when he didn’t re-sign him. He had about as much enfluence on recent drafts as you did. Especially last year Mr Davis is clear about him not being a factor in his plans for the future. There is no way he had an enfluence on that draft………..period
I thought Cable had something to do with it as well but now no way.
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Bwhahhhahha, BHP if anything you are a footsoldier…
Al said he lets his coaches draft, and when he fires them he takes credit for the good picks and gives blame the fired coach for the bad picks.. if you havent noticed that trend you are blind..
ONE thing is evident, 1st round pick is pure AL, he trades it or makes the pick, each year… then he gives the coach 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5h if he he can see a reasoning behind it.. and then he uses 6th and 7th rounds as play toys…
why did our drafts before Kiffin suck? because it was all AL, he didnt believe in Art’s reasoning…
when Hue is fired, he will either claim its was Hue’s fault we drafted Wiz2 in the 2nd and not in the 4th or Al will say it was a steal planed by himself…
he has done this since Flores stopped…
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:01 pm
well night gents…
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
GN Negro!
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Priest:
Oakland Raiders
General Manager – Al Davis. 81 years old. Dismal record as GM since last playoff appearance, which was 9 years ago.
Head Coach – Hue Jackson. No head coaching experience.
QB- Jason Campbell. Sub-par 2010 season, and that’s being kind. Had to be saved by backup QB in two wins, games in which he was horrible. Any coach would have removed him.
You honestly don’t understand why some fans are critical?
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:06 pm
http://smartfootball.com/quarterbacking/did-cam-newton-play-in-a-one-read-passing-offense-at-auburn
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Great article. I was very impressed with the Georgia highlights. It’s refreshing to see someone do a deep dive instead of all the surface garbage by the talking heads. Obviously, the professional scouts did.
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Everything the “foot soldiers” (good term, LMN) will be saying when Hue is fired are the same things us more cynical fans are saying now.
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
LMN
You don’t have a freakin clue what Al said or does you’re a blog idiot who learned everything you think know in here on this blog. Stop lying on Big Al and talk what you know which wouldn’t leave with much…………..period
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:00 pm
548,Who cares? Pick is in,Im ok with it,2ndround center with good blood lines,all good.I mean,the Raiders will pay him Gas money vs JRUSS,lets see how it plays out over time
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:08 pm
priest, as a GM, Al Davis sucks. Period. He’s 81. His record since his last playoff appearance (9 years ago, for score), is a flat out joke. He wouldn’t be so much as a towel boy for any other team, let alone make any sort of personnel decisions. He’s locked himself in as general manager of the Raiders, because he’s the owner of the team. You want to talk about union job security ruining the business world? What do you do when a guy who has complete control of a franchise through a general partnership agreement, something that’s nearly impossible to change, hijacks the CEO desk? Until Al Davis retires and allows someone else to be in control of Raiders’ personnel decisions, and gives him control in writing, he deserves nothing but ridicule. And he’ll get it. On a platter. You can defend him all you want.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Not interested in talking to retards…..
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Callahan was a first year HC that took his team to the Superbowl and I think Tomlin at Pitt. did pretty well his first year too. What about Jim Caldwell?
The fact this is Hue’s first year as a HC means nothing.
Coach is an able GM working draft magic the past two years, and when DHB has a breakout year this season, even that pick will be seen for the masterful coup that it was.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Not interested in talking to retards…..
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In other words, you can’t spin the Davis record over the last 9 years.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
KK who on earth is interestd in that record besides you?
You’re wores than a skid row bum who’s peee’d on himself again, the record is the record. Stop making a fool of yourself.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
That’s right. The record is the record. Deal with it.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
KK who on earth is interestd in that record besides you?
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How about the paying customers. I guess they care, since 80% of the Raider games are blacked out. Seriously.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
They start winning that’ll change…………period you cannot erase the past just move on.
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
They start winning that’ll change…………period you cannot erase the past just move on.
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Just move on? And ignore the incompetencies?
Not a winning formula.
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Then go root for another team why stay here day in day out complaining like damn fool.
Like i said you’re like a skid row bum pissing on himself over and over again. You don’t like it, stop doing it…………..period
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:27 pm
600.KoolKell Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm
They start winning that’ll change…………period you cannot erase the past just move on.
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Just move on? And ignore the incompetencies?
Not a winning formula.
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601.priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Then go root for another team why stay here day in day out complaining like damn fool.
Like i said you’re like a skid row bum pissing on himself over and over again. You don’t like it, stop doing it…………..period
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This debate happens everyday. Period.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:35 am
priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Not interested in talking to retards…..
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Exactly what top notch coaches around the league say when Al pursues them. That’s how we wound up with Jackson.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:37 am
David Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Callahan was a first year HC that took his team to the Superbowl and I think Tomlin at Pitt.
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Are you intentionally leaving out that Callahan took over Gruden’s team and that Tomlin took over Cowher’s team, or did you honestly not know that?
May 4th, 2011 at 12:39 am
priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
KK who on earth is interestd in that record besides you?
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Investors that Al pursues to take a load of the team’s ownership off his soldiers.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:39 am
“shoulders”, not soldiers. lol. Talking to Kell makes me dumber.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:40 am
^^^That wasn’t me. We’re playing this game again?
May 4th, 2011 at 5:10 am
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# priesttj Says:
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
LMN
You don’t have a freakin clue what Al said or does you’re a blog idiot who learned everything you think know in here on this blog. Stop lying on Big Al and talk what you know which wouldn’t leave with much…………..period
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oh snap, what a come back, and you act like you know everything because you once were invited to a practice some years ago… you are too close to the sun, jay-sayers and back-clappers usually dont have a clue to why they say and does things… you are a good foot soldier, thats evident…
you know a story called ‘The Emperors New Clothes’ ? you should read it, I think you are able to… who do you think remind us off?… LOL
May 4th, 2011 at 5:50 am
Damn you Rockstar, you jinxed the Lakers!
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LOL @ Dakota
May 4th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Kell #520 says “I come here because I’m passionate about the Raiders”
LOL!
Does anybody really beleive that ???
May 4th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Nation what do you think of getting Clausen from Carolina and sitting him behind Jcamp for a while?
Hes still young, and may be able to benefit from bench development
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Dakota’s wet dream come true? no thanks!
not unless Carolina flat out dumps him or lowers the asking price to a 2013 5th rounder
May 4th, 2011 at 5:59 am
QB Jerrod Johnson (#1 overall) and OLB Mark Herzlich (10th Round) were drafted in the UFL draft yesterday.
AS well as two of my Fresno State Bulldogs: QB Ryan Colburn (3rd overall) and WR Jamel Hamler (6th Round).
It is unclear if any players will sign contracts with the UFL as that would keep them out of the NFL for the entire season, if the NFL season ever starts.
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The UFL will not release players from their roster, unless an NFL Team pays out a 250,000 grand release fee.
A lot of NFL clubs were reluctant to do so last year for some players-I think maybe Dominic Rhodes was one of them?
Anyway, the Undrafted rookies are really going to have to think twice about signing a UFL contract, which the only way they can break it, is, if the NFL team who wants them, is willing to really pony up.
The player’s agent most likely will advise them to hold off in hope of the big check, while a $50K contract, at 3% minimum for an agent is peanuts….$1,500.00 or so for the agent, and what do they really care? Focus will be on the big $.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:08 am
GOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.ROCKSTAR,GUEST123.ITS ALL SPECULATION UNTIL THIS CBA THING IS TAKEN CARE OF.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Nation!
LOL, Dakota…Rockstar didn’t jinx no one…!
Anyways…Why is it looking like middle of July now? Not sure what that June 3rd signifigance means. If it goes to August, does the FA’s have to sign with their current teams for one year?
May 4th, 2011 at 6:19 am
GOOD ? HWNRDR.CAN A TEAM EVEN SIGN DRAFT PICKS ?
May 4th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Good morning nation
May 4th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…No. Teams are not allowed to have contact and vice versa. Like the “Wisnewski’s”…they can talk because they are family, but nothing football related…
May 4th, 2011 at 6:41 am
I know legally that they can’t do much, but someone posted last night that Drew Brees is doing some sort of private OTA’s. Is that allowed? Did they get the playbooks out and make a break for a kinkos and copy it and distribute bootleg copies.
You know there has to be some nefarious dealings going on.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Round #1 rookies were able to get playbooks, but round #2 rooks and later aren’t allowed. You think they meet up distribute copies?
If so, is this like one of those college type infractions where a club can be penalized?
May 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Yeah I heard about that too! I don’t see anything illegal with that, though. It’s just players with players. About the playbook…that I don’t know…maybe a runner made the run for kinkos…LOL
May 4th, 2011 at 6:58 am
G’morning people.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:14 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Nation!
LOL, Dakota…Rockstar didn’t jinx no one…!
Anyways…Why is it looking like middle of July now? Not sure what that June 3rd signifigance means. If it goes to August, does the FA’s have to sign with their current teams for one year?
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The hearing date for the NFL’s appeal is June 3rd, it will take 30-45 days AFTER that for the 8th circuit to make its ruling meaning NFL doors will not open until Mid July at the earliest. That will all be moot if the 8th circuit doesnt grant the NFL a continuance on the stay though, the 8th circuit could force the doors open on 6/3 if they deem appropriate.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Good Morning Bcz24…Thanks for that info!
May 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Yeah I heard about that too! I don’t see anything illegal with that, though. It’s just players with players. About the playbook…that I don’t know…maybe a runner made the run for kinkos…LOL
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Players who received their playbook are not under any legal obligation NOT to distribute it to their teammates who did not get it, other than the non-disclosure agreement they sign as far as sharing it with anyone NOT on the roster.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
You got it brother.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:18 am
This whole mess is a deadlock until at least June 3rd, but could be a lot longer than that.
Saw a report today that the 8th Circuit court of appeals granted the owners’ request for an expedited appeal, scheduled for June 3rd. The owners’ brief is due May 9; the players’ response is due May 20; and the owners’ reply is due May 26.
Then oral argument will be June 3, and the ruling will be sometime — probably no more than a month, but who knows? — after that.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:22 am
” NFL doors will not open until Mid July at the earliest.”
There goes mini camp and here comes more players getting in trouble with the law or tweeting stupid things and from this we all get a watered down NFL season.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I know Schefter reported last night that a ruling typically comes 4-6 weeks after the hearing, which would put the decision in early to mid July. If that’s remotely accurate, we REALLY REALLY REALLY want the owners request for a stay to be denied. If the stay is granted, we would most likely be looking at no football activity for the next two plus months.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 7:22 am
” NFL doors will not open until Mid July at the earliest.”
There goes mini camp and here comes more players getting in trouble with the law or tweeting stupid things and from this we all get a watered down NFL season.
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That’s another good reason why Al and Amy Trask are into hiring high character dudes. Imagine if we had drafted Jimmy Smith, and he’s waiting around all summer with nothing better to do but get into his usual thug routine. And then the league starts up and he’s already on suspension.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Negotiations are supposed to begin again in Minnesota on May 16th, but they are a waste of time, until the appeal is heard. The owners wont budge and have no incentive to.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Guest123
Anymore news on Reggie Bush and his potential pay cut to stay in NO?
May 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
The latest Bush article from the Times Picayune
http://www.nola.com/…ay_they_wo.html
Basically the coach and Loomis think its about money and that they will be able to convince Bush to stay for a lowered sum in a more limited role. I know Reggie and his ego are not going to bite. He wants to be a bigger part of a team and loathes standing on the sideline watching someone else do it. He see’s the writing on the wall and did in fact tweet about it. “Its been fun New Orleans” . Reggie is going to force the Saints to cut him and thus free him up to take the best offer or to go where he wants to go.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
imo they have to grant the stay. there is no way that the nfl get’s irreparable harm from letting business happen. the players on the other hand can’t get playbooks or practice with a new team to even make the team. that is irreparable harm.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Yeah thats what I thought….I am wondering who will pay him that kind of money to be a situational player?
May 4th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Nice article about our draft!
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_17967743
May 4th, 2011 at 8:46 am
“irreparable harm”
Is what some players are doing to themselves during the lock out, tweeting and driving drunk.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:47 am
San Diego may have an opening if they can’t resign Sproles. Bush would go there for the same money as NO is offering. I think he’d swallow his pride.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am
He can go to Seattle with his old cheating buddy.
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632.guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am
The latest Bush article from the Times Picayune
http://www.nola.com/…ay_they_wo.html
Basically the coach and Loomis think its about money and that they will be able to convince Bush to stay for a lowered sum in a more limited role. I know Reggie and his ego are not going to bite. He wants to be a bigger part of a team and loathes standing on the sideline watching someone else do it. He see’s the writing on the wall and did in fact tweet about it. “Its been fun New Orleans” . Reggie is going to force the Saints to cut him and thus free him up to take the best offer or to go where he wants to go.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
There is not irreparable harm to the owners. They are still making millions instead of billions of dollars as the games are cancelled. Players who are mere millionaires are seeing their fortunes go up in flames. Remember a typical NFL player’s career is a mere 3 years. Those that are in their prime are getting gutted about now.
No way the players can win this thing.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Update on the UFL draft’s impact to UFDA’s…
Pat and Tim on Sirius interviewed Jim Fassel(UFL HC) today and he stated the fee is not in existence any longer…..
There are also new clauses that allow better flexibility.
The season starts in August now.
If a player is requested off the UFL team before the season starts, the player gets a free pass.
He did not say what parameters though must be met to allow them off the team during the season though
May 4th, 2011 at 8:57 am
UDFA’s, erp. not UFDA’s….fat fingers.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am
I am interested in the impact of the June supplemental draft. I heard that Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor was interested in throwing his name in the hat to avoid the 5 game suspension he has coming to him. I guess that is going to be cancelled too.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:05 am
If Reggie Bush is going to get back to another Championship his best chances are with the Saints.
Great coach, QB, GM, etc. etc.
Who else not in a desperate position to fill seats is going to give Reggie that much money?
The reason Reggie has been successful and not a bust is because how Sean Payton helps scheme the offense for Reggie. Putting him in space bouncing him around creating mismatchees.
I would love to see him try to be an every down back with SD. He would get smashed. LMAO!!!!! Less carries will help him extend his career.
Plus New Orleans stood by him when he was going through his USC situation. Hopefully, he takes that into account.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I really doubt that would happen. He could stand to make more money entering the draft next year even after the 5 game suspension.
No, word here in Columbus, OH that there is any truth to that story.
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642.guest123 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am
I am interested in the impact of the June supplemental draft. I heard that Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor was interested in throwing his name in the hat to avoid the 5 game suspension he has coming to him. I guess that is going to be cancelled too.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Plus, Guest123 you don’t think TP is the answer do you?
May 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
out of a 53 man roster. let’s be generous and say that 30 of them make real nfl money. the other 23 are competing to be starters, sign with other teams as a free agent, and 6-15 players don’t make a squad because teams can’t work them out or let them compete for a spot. i’m not saying the players should win the appeal, but there is no reason for them to grant a stay to the nfl in these conditions this late in the game.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Back to the lockout:
The decision won’t be on June 3. It will probably be sometime within the next month after that. (Maybe a week or two, maybe four weeks, possibly longer.)
It will either uphold the preliminary injunction against the lockout — in which case the lockout will end unless and until it is determined to be legal (probably sometime in 2012).
Or it will overturn the preliminary injunction against the lockout — in which case the lockout will remain in effect unless and until it is determined to be illegal (probably sometime in 2012), or until the owners voluntarily decide to end it (perhaps by agreeing to a new CBA), whichever comes first.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:12 am
“I would love to see him try to be an every down back with SD”
My thoughts exactly let A.J Smith pay him a ton of money then run him between the tackles 20 times a game!!
May 4th, 2011 at 9:13 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Plus, Guest123 you don’t think TP is the answer do you?
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No, doubt he’d go high in the supplemental with so many QB’s already taken and so many potential FA QB’s. I just think it’s interesting that college cheaters still have a get-out-of-jail card the supplemental draft offers. I know it wasn’t meant to be that, but for guys like Pryor, it is.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I think Bush is homesick. He never left Southern Cal. He has a very good situation and Sean Payton has enabled him to play to his strengths. But he fears contact, and he wont get any favors from Norv Turner. He’s going to have grow a pair if he wants to play in the AFC West.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:35 am
San Diego may have an opening if they can’t resign Sproles
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SD has Ryan Mathews, Mike Tolbert & Curtis Brinkley.
plus they just drafted Jordan Todman
Why would they give a crap about Darren Sproles ???
May 4th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Chargers GM AJ Smith gets some heat for “reaching” in the 2nd round of the draft for Jona Mouton. This is funny because, well his response is taken like he’s a maverick and just smarter than everyone else. If Al says something like this, they go “good ole crazy Al”
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“I’m told I can’t find one person who thought the linebacker [Michigan's Jonas Mouton] we took in the second round … wasn’t a fifth- or sixth-round guy. Well, I’ve found one guy. Me. He’s a second rounder here.”
-San Diego general manager A.J. Smith, to Nick Canepa of the San Diego Union Tribune.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Guest123,
if SD wants a weakling at RB they can trade us a bag of tortilla chips for Michael Bennett or Louis Rankin …
May 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
May 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Why would they give a crap about Darren Sproles ???
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You have to admit, very similar type backs. I mean if they still value that type of COP back.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Hello everybody
May 4th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Good afternoon R8eray. At least here. Morning to you.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:43 am
they still value that type of COP back.
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the Raiders have McFadden who will punch you in the mouth (when he’s healthy), Bush who will carry you or run you over and now Jones … who is probably more of an elusive speedster like Jamaal Charles
May 4th, 2011 at 9:44 am
from jets board…not looking good…
From Albert Breer:
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Sources: NFLPA is bracing for the NFL to be granted a full stay of the injunction to lift NFL lockout until the appeal is heard.
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Have heard the rumblings all morning. What full stay would mean: The lockout is on until 8th circuit hears case on June 3, rules thereafter.
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Full stay would, in essence, eliminate offseason programs for ‘11. Generally those wrap in mid-June, which is earliest we could get ruling.
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@ECpackers We have to wait for official ruling 1st. 8th circuit could pull a shocker. Barring that: OTAs/minicamps gone; FA/trades delayed.
Plus, for what it’s worth, from Ochocinco:
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#OCNN Unfortunately a union source expects that the stay will be granted today n that the lockout will now continue 4 at least several weeks
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#OCNN Our awesome owners will take the short term pain of an extended lockout,for the long term they’ll gain a favorable CBA. #Beinghonest
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I’ve maintained n optimistic outlook throughout the lockout,based on today’s expected developments we will be out at least another month
May 4th, 2011 at 9:46 am
the Raiders have McFadden who will punch you in the mouth (when he’s healthy), Bush who will carry you or run you over and now Jones … who is probably more of an elusive speedster like Jamaal Charles
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Love our RB situation, near and long term. A real position of strength. We can move Bush for value if push comes to shove. TJ is going to be a dynamic back when he gets his feet up under him. He needs to season, but his potential is very high.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:55 am
MR is back on his MEDS.
Good job, MR.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:55 am
We can move Bush for value if push comes to shove.
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does anybody know if Mike Bush ever signed his RFA tender?
or Samson Satele for that matter?
that’s the difference between being thin at RB & C or strong imo
I like Taiwan’s potential, but he’s still not a lock to produce equal to big Mike if/when DMAC gets banged up again. too bad Rock Cartwright is our special teams captain, because even though I love him on ST, I’d much rather keep Rankin as the 4th RB on the roster
May 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I don’t think Bush is signed. But it’s highly unlikely he will sign elsewhere with a first and third tender.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Technically, Chad Ochocinco broke the news, citing a union source. What we don’t like about the report is that free agency and trades would be delayed for at least a month. What we do like is that it would give the sides a chance to head back to the mediation table to try to hammer out a new CBA. A stay would wipe out all offseason programs, keeping the doors locked until at least mid-June, if not July or August.
Source: Albert Breer
May 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
I tell you what, mini-camps, OTA’s, even training camp as we know it is gone man. just gone.
If they do have a season, it will be a shortened one.
Teams are going to scramble to assemble a roster.
Expect the quality of play to be sloppy, more injuries, etc.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:00 am
666
May 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Guest, did you see what Bush posted yesterday on Twitter?
I told about Brees hoilding OTA’s…he’s got all p!$$EE!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
@michaelbush29 Michael Bush
I dont care about da saints workin out people please stop sending me that da raider players are taking care of business as well n other ways
May 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
ya albert breer is not painting a pretty picture for the ruling and i just don’t get it. the sides would want to hammer out a deal either way and all a stay does is rob the players and fans of football.
also being a raider fan, teams that are in transition and in need of help are the ones that hurt the most from no workouts and free agency. in other words another year of steelers, packers, colts, patriots super bowls with little playoff changes.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
r8eray Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Guest, did you see what Bush posted yesterday on Twitter?
I told about Brees hoilding OTA’s…he’s got all p!$$EE!
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r8eray, I missed what Bush posted on twitter, can you “re-tweet” please.
And if possible do you have a link to the source that is claiming Brees is holding OTA’s?
I think that is highly illegal.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:06 am
irjonny Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
ya albert breer is not painting a pretty picture for the ruling and i just don’t get it. the sides would want to hammer out a deal either way and all a stay does is rob the players and fans of football.
also being a raider fan, teams that are in transition and in need of help are the ones that hurt the most from no workouts and free agency. in other words another year of steelers, packers, colts, patriots super bowls with little playoff changes.
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I asked Jerry a leading question in his chat to this same issue. He’s confident that not much will change in the playbook for the Raiders, so we should be ok. At least Jerry is optimistic.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/05/new_orleans_saints_quarterback_96.html
Drew Brees working them HARD…I think I heard Deuce McAllister is helping with the training!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:14 am
thanks for the link R8eray.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fa9321/article/unofficial-list-of-potential-2011-free-agents?campaign=Twitter_features
May 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
another thing to note is that brandon myers said that not much has been going on in the case of team workouts for the raiders. to be fair, if the lockout persists and the raiders aren’t ready for 2011 it’s really their own fault unless they get it together
May 4th, 2011 at 10:19 am
@michaelbush29 Michael Bush
I dont care about da saints workin out people please stop sending me that da raider players are taking care of business as well n other ways
So in other words…he’s telling us “everything is under control…we got this!”
I sure hope so…after watching highlights on the Saints OTA’s by the Players (Drew Brees) they were workin it!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I think the NFLPA investigate and sue Brees for purposely circumventing the intent of the lockout. It gives the Saints an unfair head start on the rest of the league. This type of training on unfair footing and non-sanctioned rules has the potential for a number of civil lawsuits, especially for players who could potentially get hurt and are not under contract.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Why is this thread still up?The home page lists the chat as “today”, when it was DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.This is a ghetto newspaper.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
why are my comments awaiting moderation? jerry comon man
May 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
lol @ ghetto newspaper
May 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
So assuming the 2010 rules apply and that above list of FAs is correct, it cuts down the Raiders’ options dramatically. Best bet might be to aggressively go after UDFAs for at least some kind of O-line depth, even if they just end up being practice squad options.
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Brandon Bair
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
FA targets:
OT Jammal Brown
OG Reggie Wells
DE Dave Ball
WR Santana Moss
I’d like to see Wells or Brown in FA, and Mims/Bell, Silva/Lefeged, Bair/Thornton, Portis/Devlin, and Williams as UDFAs.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
M Bush is full of horse bleep. They aren’t doing anything but riding around their respective towns getting arrested and goofing off. I’m not passing judgment I would be doing the same thing just stating the obvious.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:37 am
So we shot OBL in the melon and his wife in the leg and his brother is dead? Where is his wife? Where is his brother?
We collected all sorts of intel from his PC, DVD’s, Documents, thumb drives…..and that didn’t lead to NOT 1 arrest or raid ???????
Where is D Trump to get to the bottom of things?
May 4th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I am sure that Saints ownership can’t be pleased. What if Brees or someone else gets hurt during these rouge minicamps? Who is responsible? How does it affects guaranteed contracts? Can they be voided? Do they have the necessary training staff, safeguards, strength and conditioning people?
May 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 10:34 am
So assuming the 2010 rules apply…..
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I think that’s about the furthest assumption that you can assume right now. FA is dead for 2 1/2 months.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Think Matt Light would be a good signing? Veldheer to RT or Light to RT? Of course the Raiders would have to overpay.
Also I could see a Plaxico signing, but could not see Plaxico signing with Raiders for vet minimum. Could see him signing with other organizations for vet min, just not us.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Hey Guest,
Who gives a rats a$$ what the Saints are doing? We have our own problems starting with the GM on down.
You guys are like chics in a nail salon gossiping about this & that. F the Saints!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I think that’s about the furthest assumption that you can assume right now. FA is dead for 2 1/2 months.
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All the more reason that they won’t have time to come up with new rules once the league year begins.
It’s hard to believe this lockout has gotten so out of hand. The league seems to be doing all it can to kill the f*** out of that golden goose…
May 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
So we shot OBL in the melon and his wife in the leg and his brother is dead? Where is his wife? Where is his brother?
We collected all sorts of intel from his PC, DVD’s, Documents, thumb drives…..and that didn’t lead to NOT 1 arrest or raid ???????
Where is D Trump to get to the bottom of things?
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Who cares if we ever see a body. What matters is AQ believes it. As long as they don’t have a rebuttal of OBL’s death and can prove it, AQ dies away. RIP AQ…naw check that Rest in Agony AQ.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
santana moss hhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll nnnnnnnnoooooooooooo
May 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
“Where is D Trump to get to the bottom of things?”
Looking for more ways to get his name in the press and promote his brand.
He didn’t fair to well the last time he tried to play conspiracy theory with the American public so maybe his head is buried in the sand….no that would mess up his hair….
May 4th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Couldn’t agree more YA
May 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Actually trump was 100% successful getting the sitting pres of the US to cough up his birth cert.
The press was unwilling to get it so Trump took care of business. Lets see that losers grades next. Im guessing C avg for purp lips…
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 10:43 am
He didn’t fair to well the last time he tried to play conspiracy theory with the American public so maybe his head is buried in the sand….no that would mess up his hair….
May 4th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Also I could see a Plaxico signing, but could not see Plaxico signing with Raiders for vet minimum. Could see him signing with other organizations for vet min, just not us.
give the insentives to give him a couple mill extra
May 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I am so sick of reading articles about who tweeted what!
The modern day athlete tweeting is the equivalent of a 13 year old girl dressing inappropriately to get attention.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
any vet that has made big time catches we need cant afford to pass on one
May 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Actually trump was 100% successful…in distracting us from rising gas prices, a balanced budget, unemployment and other real life issues to stroke his own ego and get his name in the press.
Meanwhile the president was plotting the death of OBL.
Trumps priorities are himself and if you believe anything different you are about as smart as a box of rocks!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
not david tyree either
May 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I am so sick of reading articles about who tweeted what!
The modern day athlete tweeting is the equivalent of a 13 year old girl dressing inappropriately to get attention.
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It also says something about people/stalkers who follow celebrities on twitter.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Was only a matter of time before the village idiot showed up for his 18hr blog assignment!
KK, did you just finish a warm bowl of prunes and a ensure senior cocktail loaded with geritol and viagra ?
May 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Remember when Jamarcus Russell was “allowed” to play in the first weekend minicamp before getting cut? The Raiders essentially risked $6.5 million that Russell wouldn’t twist his knee and score some big money.
The rules of compensation under CBA protect both the player and the owner. In this case, the owner risked big and got away with it. In Brees case, he’s playing outside of contract parameters, but also subjecting his teammates to similar risk under less than agreed upon ideal NFL conditions.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
KK, how many homes did you sell this year?
Hope & Change put a nice fat dent in the market eh? Forecloser’s are up you should write up loans or is that above your pay grade ?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Would love to see Santonio Holmes, Vincent Jackson, or even Braylon Edwards, but with the young guys already on the roster it’s just not going to happen. Plus Edwards is likely to be retained by the Jets, and Holmes and Jackson will likely require a trade that the Raiders don’t have ammunition for.
Whatever vet comes here (it’s unlikely that one will get signed anyway), he’ll have to be happy with very limited playing time (read: not Ochocinco). Ford, Murphy, and Moore will get the bulk of the work. DHB will get playing time because he’s DHB. Chaz will play if he’s healthy.
I say Santana Moss is the most logical option because he has extensive experience with Al Saunders and Jason Campbell. If he’s just going to see a few snaps here and there (if he even makes it out of whatever is left of training camp by then), his main role will be a teacher to the young guys on the roster.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:03 am
The Prez is too classy to release photos. The birthers would only claim it was doctored anyway.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
If all you have on the President is that he was a mediocre college student then you will lose big in 2012.
The GOP needs to get their act together if they plan on competing at all in 2012.
Right now Vegas has Hilliary Clinton at better odds of winning the presidential election in 2012 than any republican and we all know she is not even going to run….time to faced the facts and stop the distractions teabaggers.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:05 am
so dose anyone know what was said about the stay on the lockout
May 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Last I heard is Edwards is as good as gone in NY. I’d be open to Ocho coming here as well. We need some established talented WR’s.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
KK,
“CIA Director Leon Panetta said Tuesday that the 0bomma administration will “ultimately” release a photo showing the body of Us@ma bin Laden”
Pres purp lips cant even get on the same page as his CIA cheif, funny that and so much for class when he does, yah?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:06 am
BrownStains
When’s the last time you’ve eaten anything other than pork n’ beans?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:08 am
KK, arent you libtards against waterboarding, including pres purp lips? Funny that!
In the interview, Panetta also admitted it was likely that intelligence gleaned from so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” — including waterboarding
May 4th, 2011 at 11:10 am
We should waterboard the pres and make him cough up his college transcripts. We cant have a flunky marxist in the WH, right KK ?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Torture could have played a role, but I think having a president whose trusted and liked abroad, far more than Bush, McCain, or Pa lin, played a role, too. And, that’s at least legal!
May 4th, 2011 at 11:14 am
usually KK and I do not agree on anything.
But post #709 has me LMAO
May 4th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Is the college transcripts the new thing for the birthers? lol. What will they think of next?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives lost, countless innocent people illegally detained and tortured, taking a massive dump on everything this country is supposedly about…
All for one guy, whose death won’t even stop “terror”.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
MB, how owned did you feel when O bama busted out the birth certificate?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Young American, so what was O bama supposed to do, let Bin Laden walk?
May 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Kell, exactly. That’s why I said all along that he shouldn’t show the birth certificate, because then they’re just going to move on to the next thing. Why feed these animals? Run the country. That’s all they’re trying to do anyway, is distract him so that in the end they can say he didn’t accomplish anything. He busted out the birth certificate and took out Bin Laden in the same week. So they’d might as well find a new strategy. Evidently this man can walk and chew gum at the same time, where the previous president could do neither.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives lost, countless innocent people illegally detained and tortured, taking a massive dump on everything this country is supposedly about…
All for one guy, whose death won’t even stop “terror”.
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Yes YA,
And it was worth it. Terror will always exist. Killing OBL and stopping terror aren’t mutually exclusive.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:21 am
# Gust372 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Young American, so what was O bama supposed to do, let Bin Laden walk?
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He had to “finish” what was already started, for sure. Problem is, it’s never going to be finished. There will be a permanent military presence in both Iraq and Afghanistan, the former having no ties whatsoever to UBL. The latter was a country the US paid him to fight in back in the 80s.
Foreign policy blunder after foreign policy blunder. No end in sight.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@YoungAmerican
“Many of bin Ladin’s followers believed that God protected and favored bin Ladin. Yesterday the SEALS proved them wrong. That won’t be good for their morale.”-Huffington Post
May 4th, 2011 at 11:31 am
What do think the Vegas odds are that there will be a season this year? I’ll take that bet today before the odds become 1:1
May 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
So long as the US meddles in the affairs of foreign countries, especially in the Middle East, it will be the target of terrorism. The US has a long history of toppling countries and installing governments that have pro-US trade policies. Still goes on to this day.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:33 am
It’s looking more and more likely that the season will be shortened. I think at this point, the best case scenario is that only the preseason is shortened. This is going to get ugly (uglier, rather) very quickly.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
So long as the US meddles in the affairs of foreign countries, especially in the Middle East, it will be the target of terrorism. The US has a long history of toppling countries and installing governments that have pro-US trade policies. Still goes on to this day.
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the toppling of tolatarian dictators like Musharoff, et. al, is crippling AQ, by re-emphranchising people who have come to distrust Gov’t. AQ was feeding off the fear and ignorance these regimes caused.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Here you go Guest123:
If there is a lockout, how many games will be lost?
1 game +200
2 games +200
3 games +250
4 games +220
5 games +350
6 games +300
7 games +400
8+ games +300
If there is a lockout, when will it end?
On August 6, 2011 or before +120
Between August 7 and September 8, 2011 +150
On September 9, 2011 or after +120
Will the 2011 NFL regular season start on time?
Yes +180
No -220
Will there be an NFL lockout in 2011?
Yes -500
No +350
May 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Guest123
This is the big one
Will there be an NFL lockout in 2011?
Yes -500
No +350
Odds are favoring the fact that we may not have a season at all.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
The US put Saddam in power, put the Shah in power, supported recently-ousted Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak until the very end, funded UBL and continues to fund Afghan warlords, continues to fund a Pakistani government with just as many ties to terrorism as the Taliban and Saddam ever had, displaced an entire population of people for the sake of making room for Israel, has assassinated countless Latin American leaders who wanted to nationalize their industries to help their own people instead. And that’s just in the last 50-60 years, off the top of my head….
May 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
So we shot OBL in the melon and his wife in the leg and his brother is dead? Where is his wife? Where is his brother?
We collected all sorts of intel from his PC, DVD’s, Documents, thumb drives…..and that didn’t lead to NOT 1 arrest or raid ???????
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Brown,
OBL had a PC, DVD’s, & thumb drives?
even 54 year old Saudi Arabian dudes are more tech savvy than Al Davis!
May 4th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Are these real odds?
I agree with Vegas. No season at all.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Al is tech savvy! He has one of those kindle e-books.
OOps! sorry…
Scratch that….it’s just his overhead projector.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:59 am
any vet that has made big time catches we need cant afford to pass on one
not david tyree either
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big oak boy,
David Tyree > Darrius Heyward-Bey
May 4th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Guest123
Those were live odds when I cut and pasted them. In other words you could have placed a bet right then and there with those odds.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
I am not a gambler for real. What do the +200 and -500 mean?
And isn’t already a lock that we have a lockout in 2011? Since we are currently in one?
May 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Willie Parker on the Redskins: “They don’t care about football”
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OUCH!
maybe McNabb & Fat Albert were on to something?
oddly enough, DeAngelo Hall made the Pro Bowl with Washington. this dude feeds off of dysfunction
May 4th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
+200 means that if you bet $1 you would win $2
-500 means if you bet $1 you would win .20 cents
May 4th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
does anybody really care what Rashard Mendenhall thinks of the OBL situation?
He’s not an owner, GM or Head Coach. He certainly doesn’t speak for the Steelers organization or the fans.
he just runs his mouth and people eat it up like he’s Chad OchoCinco.
not that interesting folks, seriously
May 4th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Thanks 666
May 4th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Yes & yes.
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Brown,
OBL had a PC, DVD’s, & thumb drives?
even 54 year old Saudi Arabian dudes are more tech savvy than Al Davis!
May 4th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
here’s a look at seven free-agents-to-be who could stand to do well on the open market.
#1 Nnamdi Asomugha, corner
By far the top prize of this free-agent class and the only one of these 200-odd players who could rightly make a claim to being the very best in the world at his position. He’s without a doubt in the top two or three, if you want to put Darrelle Revis first. Asomugha is creeping up on 30, but is still in line for a massive payday that will exceed $15 million per season. Houston and Dallas are not shy about spending money, and both could use a corner. The Jets were a rumored suitor, but in this scenario still have Antonio Cromartie as a restricted free agent. Given his age, Asomugha makes the most sense for teams that are already playoff ready or just on the cusp
By Jason La Canfora
May 4th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
I wonder how much of the stuff bin Laden had was given to him by CIA.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Pretty funny that most Raider fans on this blog thought Nnamdi Asomugha would gladly accept the contract we gave Stan Routt at $10 million per season when other teams around the league are gladly willing to fork over 15+
May 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Zero %
Didn’t really care about it just wondered why he would hide it for 2 years and cause a distraction, unnecessarily.
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# Gust372 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
MB, how owned did you feel when O bama busted out the birth certificate?
May 4th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RaiderRockstar
repost….
I am so sick of reading articles about who tweeted what!
The modern day athlete tweeting is the equivalent of a 13 year old girl dressing inappropriately to get attention.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I would think that Nnamdi with his strong ties to the community and being a local boy would give Al a hometown discount. $10 mil seems right to not have to learn a new system. All the hassle of moving. All the people he is close to that he’ll leave behind.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Maan.. this lockout is dumb.. taking forever!
Hopefully our free agents get another stay in Oakland
May 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Who makes you read those articles? I dont read anything I don’t want too. Maybe you are the 13yr old girl?
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I am so sick of reading articles about who tweeted what!
The modern day athlete tweeting is the equivalent of a 13 year old girl dressing inappropriately to get attention.
May 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Jerry, I thought there was a live chat today @ noon?
Change it up!!
May 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
The US put Saddam in power, put the Shah in power, supported recently-ousted Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak until the very end, funded UBL and continues to fund Afghan warlords, continues to fund a Pakistani government with just as many ties to terrorism as the Taliban and Saddam ever had, displaced an entire population of people for the sake of making room for Israel, has assassinated countless Latin American leaders who wanted to nationalize their industries to help their own people instead. And that’s just in the last 50-60 years, off the top of my head….
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Every word of it true but too many so called American delight in lying to themeselves.
USA! USA! USA!
May 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
“Maybe you are the 13yr old girl?”
Mistabrown the pedophile wishing I was a 13 year old girl!
May 4th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Zero %
Didn’t really care about it just wondered why he would hide it for 2 years and cause a distraction, unnecessarily.
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# Gust372 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am
MB, how owned did you feel when O bama busted out the birth certificate?
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Spurious timing that.
The DAY Panetta becomes Sec of Defense and General Patraeus takes over the trillion dollar CIA spy network.
Then they supposedly kill “U”sama and warn about retaliation just before the vote on May 27th on whether to make the Patriot Act law.
Willing to bet 90% of you have no idea how bad that thing is.
We’re through the looking glass here people…
May 4th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
gus,722,mre, whatever,seems the story changes hour to hour,yup a firefight,laden had a weapon,nope, didnt have one,yup,goin show proof,nope,might piss off the muslims and far left,just a friggin joke,show us the pictures or body,cant show the body, hes swimming w/the sharks,the pictures are gruesome,cant be any WORSE than the FRIGGIN movies!!
May 4th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
I remember how stupid Bush looked, when they told him the WTC’s were being attacked, remember?
May 4th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
KK,please,youre reaching and I believe you know it,imo
May 4th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Hendu, seriously?
http://nwoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/bush-booker-classroom-9-11knk.jpg?w=339&h=306
May 4th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
whitehouse wont release pictures of bin laden he is said to be wearing a teaparty t-shirt in the photos
May 4th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
I remember how stupid Bush looked, when they told him the WTC’s were being attacked, remember?
…………..bush looked confused cause he was in on it and they were a day early!
May 4th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Geez, Donald Trump was punked last week too, by the Prez.
May 4th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Young line Wiz Veldheer Campbell Barksdale -Wiz will have his work cut out
Young Db’s Mcfadden Ware DVD Chekwa- Woodson will have his work cut out
Young Wr’s DHB Ford Schilens Murphy Moore- Lal doesn’t instill confidence in me, Hue has to focus on this unit
May 4th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Steve Smith wants to be traded to either Raiders or Chargers? (Says a source)
http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/source-steve-smith-seeking-trade-to-raiders-or-chargers/
May 4th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Panthers Steve Smith wants to be traded to the Raiders or Chargers
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Quote:
The Lynwood, Calif. native is hoping to be traded to the Raiders or San Diego Chargers next season the source added.
May 4th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Wiz- looks too weak/small, hope he proves us wrong
DVD- has to put on some serious weight and then we’ll see what we got
Barksdale- has all the physical tools plus got a late start at oline, good need pick
Chekwa- guy is a willing tackler NFL body and Raider speed, gna make a run at the #2 corner spot
Moore- undersized and lacks Raider speed but the guy catches everything, year one contributor
Gordon-solid blocker at TE, will push Myers
Ausberry- Reece 2.0, good insurance plan for Reece who’s become a game changer for us
May 4th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
phatcable Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Panthers Steve Smith wants to be traded to the Raiders or Chargers
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Quote:
The Lynwood, Calif. native is hoping to be traded to the Raiders or San Diego Chargers next season the source added.
Didn’t watch him last year but even Ladanian revived his career 3 years after I thought he was done. Smith provides veteran presence and a toughness we need at WR, send em Murphy
May 4th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
welcome to the raider family mr. steve smith. now let’s get the lockout lifted so you can sign
May 4th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Would anybody be suprised if Moore caught more TD’s than DHB next year?
I won’t be, call it 3 for Moore and our annual one TD for DHB in 2011
May 4th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I would think that Nnamdi with his strong ties to the community and being a local boy would give Al a hometown discount. $10 mil seems right to not have to learn a new system. All the hassle of moving. All the people he is close to that he’ll leave behind.
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G123,
Nnamdi loves Oakland so much, he’d be willing to give up $5-7 million per year to stay?
Most people around the league notice that Al Davis overpays for average talent and pays good players more than GREAT players on other teams. You know #21’s agent is asking Coach Davis for $20 million per season if he’s paying Seymour $15 annually and big Rich isn’t even a Top 5 DE or DL. Nnam might be the best shutdown corner in the biz.
At the end of the day, it’s still a business. Asomugha has a family and realistically only 5 years max left in the NFL
May 4th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Steve Smith (CAR) is trash. I’ll pass
Jacoby Ford will be better than that turd …
He turns 32 years old next week, hasn’t been to a Pro Bowl the past 3 years, he’s injury prone, he punches some teammates and throws the rest under the bus.
He’s under contract 2 more years at $7 million in 2011 & $7.75 million in 2012
May 4th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I hope Steve Smith signs with SD so he can punch Bob Sanders and put him on I.R. (again)
Him + Cry Me a Rivers = perfect match
May 4th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
PM Crew:
do me a favor and talk some football this evening, because I’m sick of reading about a bunch of political crap when I log in Thurs morning to play catch-up
May 4th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
GRAPH: Income Inequality In U.S. Worse Than Ivory Coast, Pakistan, Ethiopia
As ThinkProgress previously reported, one of the major factors in this hike in income inequality has been the decline of unionization in America.
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/04/us-unequal-uganda-pakistan/
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