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Playbooks and undrafted free agents

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 am in Oakland Raiders.

A couple of areas worth noting during the lockout, which could be either further stayed or lifted as early as today:

During the brief window Friday when the lockout was lifted, teams were free to distribute playbooks. Raiders tight end Brandon Myers said he left the facility without one and that that he expected to get one Monday (not knowing the lockout was back on).

Raiders coach Hue Jackson said he attempted to get players as much information as he could Friday. Presumably, that included either overnighting playbooks to players on roster, sending them as computer drives or electronically. Playbooks that went out during that time do not have to be returned.

As for speculation that teams will send out playbooks on the sly anyway to make sure players are more prepared, I wouldn’t be so sure.

Keep in mind this is a labor struggle. You send out a playbook in a lockout to a staunch union supporter, he gets word to executive director DeMaurice Smith, and you have an instant sound byte about the owners breaking the rules.

As for undrafted free agents, Jackson said at the conclusion of the draft that prospective signees couldn’t be contacted.

However, that didn’t prevent the Raiders and every other team in the league from contacting them while the draft was being conducted and saying something along the lines of, “Hey, we might pick you in the sixth or seventh round, but be ready if you’re not drafted because we’re going to offer you a contract.”

Chances are most clubs have tentative agreements in place made during the draft which will be revisited the moment the lockout is lifted.

There should be a link up soon for today’s noon chat wrapping up the NFL draft or other Raiders issues . . .

In the meantime, here’s a link to my Sunday column in Bay Area News Group publications with some draft observations, including Bill Belichick’s manipulation of the process as it pertains to quarterback Ryan Mallett.

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167 Responses to “Playbooks and undrafted free agents”

  1. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think if you switched the Chekwa and VanDyke picks, the draft would have made a lot more sense from a value standpoint.

    Still would have liked to see Curtis Marsh, Curtis Brown, or Davon House in place of both those picks, but that’s just me. I’m not going to complain too much because in this draft there wasn’t much separation between the mid/late-round DBs anyway, and DVD and Chekwa appear to be hard working kids with considerable upside.

    I’m just glad Rod Woodson is around to coach up these guys. It’ll be interesting to see if either is capable of making an immediate impact.

  2. carnitas Says:

    1st

  3. KoolKell Says:

    “Mission Accomplished”

    George W Bush
    May 1, 2003

  4. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Screw the players union and their communist supporters, bunch of unAmerican cry babies.

    Fight Scene: So if Lil Wiz gets in a training camp brawl with the D-line, any bets on whether Big Wiz reverts back to his nasty self and takes out a D-lineman standing near the fight?

  5. bcz24 Says:

    Anybody got any info on Barksdale? I heard it said that he has the size and talent to be an elite tackle, but may not work hard enough all the time. Thoughts on him?

  6. KoolKell Says:

    Birth Certificate in one hand, Bin-Laden’s head in the other.

    Domino MfKer

  7. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    K2, “Bin Laden shot by American Seamen” would make a better headline…

  8. da trinity Says:

    Raider nation

  9. bcz24 Says:

    Interesting fact… May 1st 1945 was the day Hitler was confirmed dead.

  10. Violent Hands Says:

    They say DVD has thin legs but they said the same about DMC …they`ve never seen a cheetah run

  11. Gust372 Says:

    To think that Obbama had to deal with this Trump, birth certificate b.s. while going through briefings with the CIA and Navy intelligence over an opportunity to capture and kill America’s biggest enemy in history. It puts Trump’s scumbaggery on a whole new level. Obbamas haters are so owned right now.

  12. aig-raiders Says:

    Bauce,

    R U Serious OBL was killed 10 yrs ago? You mean Bush killed him only to save the victory for O-Bama so OB can get the credit. Got it. You’re a genius you know that.

  13. KoolKell Says:

    Lowdown

    I hear it was Navy Seals.

  14. bcz24 Says:

    American citizens that can’t spell their President’s name are pretty owned right now too…

  15. Gust372 Says:

    Brien’s a Republican. Of course he’s doing to downplay this. Like I said, Obbamas haters are so owned right now it’s not even funny. You can expect all kinds of silly, tin foil blather from them today. They’re upset about this news. They didn’t want Obamma to be the one who took out America’s biggest enemy in history.

  16. Gust372 Says:

    BCS, this blog won’t let me spell Obbammas name correctly. It just goes to moderation. So I change the spelling on purpose.

  17. Gust372 Says:

    BCZ, I meant, not BCS

  18. Violent Hands Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 8:59 am
    Anybody got any info on Barksdale? I heard it said that he has the size and talent to be an elite tackle, but may not work hard enough all the time. Thoughts on him?
    ———
    Positives: Ideal size. Long arms with an even distribution of weight. Versatile player who has only four years of experience at tackle. Came to LSU as a highly touted defensive tackle prospect and that defensive mentality is occasionally seen on tape. Gains good depth on his kick-slide and has the lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Long arms and strong hands to control. Can turn and seal off defenders in the running game, giving backs an easy lane to run through. Shows some athletic ability getting to the second level and, while not nimble, can get in the way of the linebacker, essentially making the block. Legitimate upside. Might just be scratching the surface of his potential and could wind up a better NFL player than he was in college.

    Negatives: Lacks the elite athleticism necessary to remain at left tackle in the pros — though he started and earned second-team All-SEC honors as a senior. Has a troubling tendency to drop his head and bend at the waist on contact, which puts him off-balance. Can be overwhelmed when he gets lazy and doesn’t keep his feet moving. Remains a technically flawed prospect who has been able to get by on only his natural ability.

  19. Gust372 Says:

    and, in post 15, I meant to say “going” to downplay this, not “doing”. Haters are out in full force today, so I have to clear up my typos. lol

  20. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Our Oline will be fine.

    If for no other reason, it can’t be any worse.

    ***

    LOL @ Jhill

  21. MattHenry Says:

    Sign Mark Herzlich. I don’t care how slow he is now. Once he gets his step back, he’ll be a force at SLB against the run…something we desparately need help in, no matter how much “better” our defense has got in the off-season.

  22. Gust372 Says:

    Owners have ruined the game with their profit sharing. They’re no longer competing with each other. They’re now competing with the players and fans.

  23. aig-raiders Says:

    Team Six in 2 chinooks. Much props to them for the smooth operation. That was pretty effin incredible. You guys should google for OBL’s face. Dude got tapped by 2 bullets to the face/head.

    Check out this video of OB and Gates smiling as they were making jokes about Osam. They just signed off on his death a few hours earlier. These are some cool cats.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xun9UYCO7es

  24. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reece’s job 90% of the time is to block. He’s TERRIBLE at it and should be replaced.

    ***

    LOL @ Jhill, again

    so if the OL & FB both stink at blocking, how in the world do we finish as the 2nd best Rushing team in the NFL ???

  25. da trinity Says:

    The only pick that I really feel good about are wiz, barksdale and t. Jones. The rest I’ll reserve judgement untill I see how they perform. Valdeer, loper,wiz,Campbell,barksdale might be our opening day oline pending any free agent singing and I hope there is. It has the potential to be a nightmare for us or our opponents. I hope this starting group turns potential into solid production on the field . and I also like that the organization at least shows that is trying to do something about the online .

  26. aig-raiders Says:

    Anyone that defends the owners is ill informed and need to do some more reading. The anti-trust exemption should be removed imo. The game is at its peak with profit and yet they had planned on the lockout a few years ago with their guaranteed money already from tv contracts, regardless of lockouts. I hope the court sticks it to them.

  27. Gust372 Says:

    Obbama = coolest president in history.

  28. Gust372 Says:

    The quality of the game is so poor now it’s almost unwatchable. I can’t even watch a game unless it’s one of the 5 or 6 premier teams in the league, and the Raiders, for kicks. This is the result of owners competing with the labor and consumer base instead of each other.

  29. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Agreed,

    The players are communist traitors…joining a union should carry the de@th sentence.

    I hate unions and I hate communists.

    Hope the courts ban the Union for violating RICO statutes. Maybe if players weren’t so busy acting hillbilly ghetto, they could bargain for a decent salary with benefits like anyone else.

  30. Gust372 Says:

    Then the owners want to impose a rookie cap because of JaMarcus Russell? Once upon a time they did this crazy thing called SCOUTING. Today they just draft the player that they think will fill the most seats, then when he turns out to be a bust, they wring their hands and cry victim.

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ummm… note to the people that keep asking DHB to take a paycut

    His salary this year is $1 million

    Next year it’s $1.6 million

    $23.5 million of that contract was guaranteed!

    You’re gonna ask a hard working WR heading into Year #3 to give back guaranteed money?

    He’s already had 2 different Head Coaches and 3 different QB’s!

    and it’s not his fault Al Davis overdrafted him

  32. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Did anybody hear what Van Dyke said about Gordon? Thought he was going to be our blocking TE? 4.66 forty and covered by corners not safties in practice? Could be this year’s steal, or more likely not.

    Impressions of sixth-round pick Richard Gordon of Miami

    “Richard Gordon, he’s a freak, man. He reminds me of Antonio Gates. We do one-on-ones, the safeties can’t go against him cause they can’t guard him, so the corners go against him. So he’s a great guy, he’s a good athlete and hard working, so I’m glad he’s on our team.”

  33. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  34. Gust372 Says:

    The Raiders. Gladiators. Outlaws. Mavericks. Communist traitors.

  35. YoungAmerican Says:

    What I love is the people who hate communism until the government tries to mess with Medicare. Awesome stuff. People only hate communism when it helps people who have a different skin color than they do.

  36. DMAC Says:

    Does anyone know if my sleeper pick got drafted? (Ryan Whalen)

  37. DMAC Says:

    Never mind. He went in the 6th round to the bungholes.

  38. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Game is not at it’s peak.

    Each kick off is followed by a commercial….on the field timeouts for commercials, commercials, commercials, and oh, commercials.

    The players are buying bling as well as the owners.

    the game sucks. No loyalty clauses in contracts, no incentives to keep teams together…

    Get rich quick, act “street” and flash bling.

    Right, the game is at its peak: It has never looked worse.

    Of course if you are an owner (due to all the commercials), the game is at its peak.

  39. DMAC Says:

    Here’s my take on this year’s draft……….
    Let’s just wait and see if these kids can play at the next level.

  40. aig-raiders Says:

    huh? I grew up under communism. I was forced to sing their patriotic songs in schools. The DRAFT is a form of communism. You’re told where and which team you can go to. Your income is preset in your first few years. In the general public arena of American Society, you dont get DRAFTED by corporations. You have a choice to interview where to work and how much the companies can pay you.

    Imagine if they had drafts for top Engineering Students in this country from MIT. That doesnt exist does it?

  41. aig-raiders Says:

    I noticed how you conveniently dropped the word “profit” in quoting my statement. Try reading again.

    “The game is at its peak with profit”

    Anyone that says the game is not at its peak with profit and revenue needs to go back to school.

  42. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Young American, you ever lived under communism? Please, enlighten us with your extensive experience of communism. Better yet, create a blog and we will all meet you there and listen to you.

    This board is about football for True Americans who love the sport and hate watching the useless union get in the way of football.

    The courts, not the unions brought about free agency.

    The union has never done anything significant for the players.

  43. Gust372 Says:

    young American, immediately after the racist white south switched to Republicans after the civil rights act, they took up the issue of taxes. Before that, southern whites actually wanted the rich to be taxed because they felt they were owed reparations for the north destroying their land in the civil war. Once racial discrimination became outlawed, they immediately, immediately, mind you, made lower taxes their plat form. So you tell me what’s behind a southern redneck who wants lower taxes.

  44. irjonny Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Interesting fact… May 1st 1945 was the day Hitler was confirmed dead.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    that’s pretty cool.

  45. Gust372 Says:

    Beijing if you think the players make nearly as much as the owners, you’re even dumber than I thought you were.

  46. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    AIG,

    ban the draft and the unions, let the free markets dictate.

    The NFL is about keep parity (communism), it rewards those who do the least.

    Think about it, you go to work and your boss rewards the guy who sucks most.

    Brilliant scheme.

    And some of you think the game is at its peak? It’s being held back, if anything.

  47. YoungAmerican Says:

    # Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Young American, you ever lived under communism? Please, enlighten us with your extensive experience of communism. Better yet, create a blog and we will all meet you there and listen to you.

    This board is about football for True Americans who love the sport and hate watching the useless union get in the way of football.

    The courts, not the unions brought about free agency.

    The union has never done anything significant for the players.

    ——————–

    Perhaps I was wrong in assuming that everyone here lives in the US, but the US government utilizes many elements of communism.

    Communism has as many flaws as any political/economic philosophy. The basic one being that it benefits the power structure more than it does the people – which, oddly enough, is the same basic flaw in capitalism.

    My point was that the tea baggers who spend their time railing against what they perceive communism to be are the same mouth breathers who want the government to “get their hands off Medicare”. Hilarious stuff.

  48. phatcable Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Bauce,

    R U Serious OBL was killed 10 yrs ago? You mean Bush killed him only to save the victory for O-Bama so OB can get the credit. Got it. You’re a genius you know that.

    ……bush built the compound osama was living in with money from the rnc,

  49. aig-raiders Says:

    You mean the Union got such a good contract for the players from the last CBA that the owners had to opt out of it? You’re right the Union has never done anything for the players. You’re a genius you know that.

  50. aig-raiders Says:

    phatcable Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:43 am

    aig-raiders Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Bauce,

    R U Serious OBL was killed 10 yrs ago? You mean Bush killed him only to save the victory for O-Bama so OB can get the credit. Got it. You’re a genius you know that.

    ……bush built the compound osama was living in with money from the rnc,
    —————-

    Phat, that’s a good one. Almost as good as the iphone giving away Osa’s location joke I see on the web. :)

  51. Gust372 Says:

    AIG, be patient with him. It’s not a good day for Republicans. They’re going to be saying a lot of silly things today.

  52. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    The players make what they accept.

    The market dictates.

    No one compared players to owners.

    Hey, since when did RMR switch to Gust372….you sly fox….trying to come in here pretending to be all learned…spouting racism.

    Jerry, ban the troll.

  53. aig-raiders Says:

    YA,

    Govt Perry from Texas come to mind right off the bat. Want to secede, talked about how self sufficient Texas is and then now begs for fed money to help fight fires.

  54. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    The last contract was a hand out…a trifle, crumbs from the table.

    The courts, not the unions enacted FA. What has the union done? Bathroom breaks? No contact rules at mini camps because someone might get a boo boo?

    The union and the draft are in their last stages of life.

  55. Gust372 Says:

    Lowdown, you deserve racism. You make white people look stupid.

  56. Gust372 Says:

    AIG, it was actually the swine flu that Governor Perry begged the federal government for financial assistance with. One week after he was flapping his dumb bubba gump gums about secession. LOL. The modern day tea bagger in a nutshell, right there.

  57. DMAC Says:

    Both owners and players are greedy f_ucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Owners are making tons of money! And players make millions to play a f_uckin game!
    We’re talking about a game folks.
    W/ out us (fans), there is no NFL.

  58. Gust372 Says:

    DMAC, to even remotely compare what the players make with what the owners make is stupidity at its stupidest.

  59. DMAC Says:

    Both greedy f_cks!

  60. inonewordraider Says:

    We need Ochocinco to make teams respect the passing game and we should re-sign Huff or TE’s and pass catching Rb’s will kill us worse than last year because our LB’s can’t cover and neither can our current safeties although Mitchell showed some signs. Sign these two and we’ll make the playoffs barring serious injury to a key contributor

  61. Gust372 Says:

    Anybody who thinks the players are rich like the owners is retarded. Period.

  62. DMAC Says:

    The Raiders intend to use seventh-rounder David Ausberry as a wide receiver, but he could be moved to tight end down the line.
    “Obviously this guy has room for growth,” said coach Hue Jackson. “I mean, this guy could get up to 255, 260 pounds. And who knows, he might be an unbelievable tight end.” He sounds like a good candidate for the practice squad as a rookie.
    Source: Oakland Tribune

  63. Gust372 Says:

    Anybody who thinks the players’ greed even remotely matches the owner’s greed is a paste eater. Yellow bus retarded. There’s no better way to put it. I didn’t think it was possible for people to be that dumb.

  64. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    DMAC,

    amen.

    and save your breath RMR is back as some tool.

  65. da trinity Says:

    republican till I die

  66. aig-raiders Says:

    From wiki….

    Freeagency first began in 1987 with plan B.

    Plan A freeagency begain in 1993 along with the new CBA.

    That CBA was amended 1998 and again in 2006.

    Are you sure you know what the F you are talking about when talking about the Players Union and courts? Are you trying to tell us the courts forced the owners to sign the 1993 CBA, 1998 and 2006 amendments? You’re a genius you know that. Try reading a little.

  67. Gust372 Says:

    retarded till you die.

  68. Gust372 Says:

    AIG, of course he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Republicans get all of their arguments from Rush Limbaugh, who himself doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s second hand buffoonery.

  69. DMAC Says:

    RMR,
    That’s fine w/ me. That’s your take on it. I have mine.

  70. aig-raiders Says:

    DMAC

    the problem I have is the players say they will be happy to play at the current CBA while the owners say NO. They want to do a new contract but they arent willing to open their books. That’s the problem I have. If you say you are hurting financially, then open the damn books and show it.

  71. da trinity Says:

    Funny how when u disagree with a democrap they think ur racist

  72. DMAC Says:

    Aig,
    Fair enough.

  73. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Yes Aig,

    that is what I am saying:

    “Eight players sued the NFL in U.S. federal court, stating that Plan B was an unlawful restraint of trade. In 1992, a jury found that Plan B violated antitrust laws and awarded damages to the players.”

    Wiki

  74. Gust372 Says:

    DMAC, it’s not a take. If you compare the average net worth of the modern day NFL player to the average net worth of the modern day NFL owner, and think those two numbers are even remotely alike, you’re retarded.

  75. big oak boy Says:

    f the 8th circut court bring out the free agents

  76. DMAC Says:

    RMR,
    I won’t waste my time w/ you.
    NEXT!

  77. Gust372 Says:

    Well, it’s because the most vocal critics of Democrats typically are racist.

  78. aig-raiders Says:

    Yeah and pls tell me where the courts forced the owners to take the 1998 amendments and 2006 amendments.

  79. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Players cannot sue while under contract with the union.

    Players let the contract expire and sued in court.

    The players did in court what the union could not do.

    Very simple…

  80. da trinity Says:

    News flash owners should get more then players they own the team. Without the owners the players would have to work regular jobs

  81. Gust372 Says:

    DMAC, thank you for admitting that you’re wasting time. I could have told you that from the start. If you look at the average net worth of the NFL player and the average net worth of the NFL owner and see comparable numbers, you took that short bus to school. Next.

  82. Gust372 Says:

    Without the players, the owners would have to actually get on the field and work for once in their lives.

  83. YoungAmerican Says:

    What the union, the owners, and the courts need to realize is that the NFL is not like any other business. That’s part of the reason the antitrust exemption is there.

    The players union wants the draft to go, but it would destroy the game. Revenue sharing has to stay, lest the NFL end up as boring as MLB tends to be. And while the owners are the reason the teams exist, and the players are the reason the teams are successful, none of this matters without the fans. And the fans nothing to be loyal to if there’s no season.

    Both sides need to get their act together, make the proper compromises, and get a deal done. Neither side is going to get everything they want, and they need to realize that.

    One thing the owners need to do is stop trying to change the game through altering the rules, and simply provide more benefits for retired players. The 88 Plan is a start, but more could be done. Professional boxers go into boxing knowing that later in life they’re going to have problems. NFL players need to realize that too. Some of them do – particularly the defensive players who are tired of getting hit in the pocketbook for doing their jobs. But the NFL needs to keep the incentive there for these talented athletes to play a game that’s going to wreak havoc on their bodies in the future.

  84. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Sigh,

    now you sound like RMR.

    You got served Aig.

    Next…

  85. aig-raiders Says:

    btw, are you trying to say that the draft is forced by the players?

  86. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Ban the Union.

    Ban the draft.

    Ban the trolls.

  87. Gust372 Says:

    Lowdown thinks pro athletes are communist traitors. lmfao!

  88. da trinity Says:

    I work for fedex, delivering packages right now. Were not union and were in the top 50 companies to work for. FYI

  89. Gust372 Says:

    Lowdown probably calls the girl scouts communists when they’re selling cookies. He’s that guy.

  90. Gust372 Says:

    Typically non union scab. Texting on blogs while driving his truck.

  91. Gust372 Says:

    At least watch out for pedestrians while you post on blogs and drive, you non union scab. Can you at least do that for us? We have to babysit you scab scumbags all of the time. The world was a better place when truck drivers were responsible union workers.

  92. aig-raiders Says:

    I got served? There has been no court orders that forced the owners to sign any CBA. The court just ruled that the players have a right to freeagency, which is freemarket. You know the very opposite of the thing you hate about communism. You obviously have no frickin clue wtf you are talking about.

    Please show me where the court forced the owners to sign the 1993, 1998, and 2006 CBA’s.

  93. irjonny Says:

    obviously, i try to watch coach jackson interviews and obviously he says obviously a lot. obviously this is a trait that draws an obvious conclusion. he’s obviously saying things that are obvious. obviously there’s no real information to be had from these interviews unless you want the obvious. hope this obviously helped you understand how obvious obviously hue jackson is…..obviously.

  94. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    It’s not owners vs players…

    It’s talent vs. no talent.

    Some owners are more talented than other owners…

    some players more talented than other players…

    the draft sucks…

    Bottom owners and suck @ss cities get rewarded for having bad teams.

    You think Cam Newton is excited to be drafted by the worse team?

    Ban the draft and the union.

    What? You think DHB making 50 Million is a good thing?

  95. DMAC Says:

    I think Taiwan Jones is the steal of this years draft. I know he played in a weaker conference, but the dude has nice jukes, and stop and go acceleration. Made defenders look silly and has the potential to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.
    Nice pick Al.

  96. big oak boy Says:

    lets change the tone who would be the best FA avalible for the raiders

  97. da trinity Says:

    I think the draft should stay , but with the rookie scale

  98. Silverandblack666 Says:

    You would have to be an uneducated mindless dolt with your head buried deep up your own anus to think the players deserve more than 60%

    Do you seriously want more Albert Haynesworth’s and Jamarcus Russell’s out there.

    enough already the prices of tickets are so high the average fan cant afford to go to a game. Should we really pay a guy 200 million dollars when that is 25% of the franchises value?

    COME ON MAN YOU CANT BE SERIOUS!!!

    When Eddie DeBartolo ran the 49ers they were in the red every year they won teh Super Bowl

    GET A CLUE RMR you are seriously out of touch and have your head up your azz.

  99. Gust372 Says:

    lol. Now he’s saying the draft is communist.

  100. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    99.

    common sense at last…

  101. Silverandblack666 Says:

    #93 Irjonny

    So funny and so true the guy obviously has a very limited vocabulary!

  102. da trinity Says:

    don’t hate cuz God has blessed me with a good job .

  103. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    SNB666,

    lmfao!

    testify, testify!

    DHB’s contract should be paid to keep Nnamdi…but you communist manifesto union types think the current system is tops..

  104. Gust372 Says:

    The players these days deserve 90%. With the perks that owners get through profit sharing and anti trust exemptions? Basically, in America today we have the most un-innovative and uncreative class of business ownership ever. And the NFL is no exception.

  105. big oak boy Says:

    lets change the tone who would be the best FA avalible for the raiders

    lets change the tone who would be the best FA avalible for the raiders

  106. Gust372 Says:

    Trinity, just watch the road, please. you’re texting on a blog while driving a delivery truck, per your own admission. That’s the problem with you non union workers. You have nothing to lose. You make peanuts, you dont’ care about your own life or anyone else’s. Park your truck, then text. And, of course, business will suffer while you waste time. Guess you have to work as hard as you’re paid, right? This is why we need well paid workers. To keep people like you at home with your parents, where you belong.

  107. DMAC Says:

    Here’s an undrafted guy I’m sure, that’s on Al’s radar.

    Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers: Another Senior Bowl safety with high character and very good speed (4.4 at the combine). Lefeged had 238 tackles in college, eight forced fumbles, and was a solid special teams guy.

  108. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The way things work in the real world is….whoever has the most to lose or whoever bears more responsibility has a greater financial reward.

    The owners are responsible for everything the players are expected to play. Its like the rich spoiled kid wanting to spend their inheritance at age 21!

  109. Silverandblack666 Says:

    If I pay Alex Rodriguez 250 million and my franchise is only worth 900 million.

    Come on man even ray Charles can see that is not good economics.

  110. DMAC Says:

    Here’s another undrafted player.

    Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU: He’s better than some of the centers drafted, and is one tough guy. This is another player from the Senior Bowl that teams missed out on. He only played one year of high school football. Go watch how well he battles a nose tackle.
    ======
    Give him a shot at the guard position.

  111. aig-raiders Says:

    I’ve always believed that the NFL draft was something forced onto us by the Owners. Are you saying the draft is forced by the players union?

  112. irjonny Says:

    lol. awaiting moderation?! jerry, do you get paid by homeland security?

  113. aig-raiders Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:26 am

    If I pay Alex Rodriguez 250 million and my franchise is only worth 900 million.

    Come on man even ray Charles can see that is not good economics.
    —————-

    That was free market. Nobody forced the Texas Rangers to pay him 250 mil. You are correct and that was Rangers own stupidity.

  114. aig-raiders Says:

    Nobody forced Al Davis to draft DHB. The person who made the stupid DHB decision was not DHB nor the players union. Al effin Davis thought he was smarter than everyone else by drafting DHB. Al knew approx how much it was going to cost him for the DHB pick already. You talk tough about accountability, but you sure make a lot of excuses for a guy that claims to hate handouts.

  115. da trinity Says:

    If T. Jones game can translate to the next level dude is gonna be sick. He is fast, he can stop on a dime. He breaks ankles, he minimizes big hits by spinning in to them. There was a run on his YouTube video were he made like 6 dudes miss in very little space. And remember he put on weight for his today and still ran a fast forty. Could be a steal

  116. irjonny Says:

    so young wiz is confirmed to play center. so does that mean we rotate satele at guard? full back? did we tender him or sign him?

  117. aig-raiders Says:

    Made in Taiwan will make Al Davis look like a genius again. I really like this kid and he is the perfect change of pace 3rd down back for us. I wonder if he has good hands. Anyone got the scoop on his hands?

  118. DutchRaider77 Says:

    The way things work in the real world is….whoever has the most to lose or whoever bears more responsibility has a greater financial reward.

    _______________________________________________________

    The owners have the most risk in the NFL? Year after year the same teams suck in the NFL and you are saying that these owners have been held accountable to the market forces?
    The stadiums financed with public money?
    Yeah, really hard to make money as a NFL owner, these guys are the cream of the business world.

    “Come on man even ray Charles can see that is not good economics.”

  119. DMAC Says:

    Pat Devlin for a extra arm in camp anyone?

  120. DMAC Says:

    an

  121. big oak boy Says:

    those college kids are cool but we need experience at some positions

  122. da trinity Says:

    Gust don’t put words in peoples mouth. I never said I was texting and driving. and don’t worry about my work I handle my business , I just hope that you got a job or are at least looking for one cuz the good book says if you don’t work you don’t eat cuz I don’t wanna be paying your way in life with my taxes

  123. aig-raiders Says:

    Da Trinity,

    I’m here temp at Fedex World HQ in Memphis. It’s effin huge here bro.

  124. ArmChair GM Says:

    # irjonny Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 am

    # bcz24 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Interesting fact… May 1st 1945 was the day Hitler was confirmed dead.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    that’s pretty cool.
    ______________________________________________________

    Another interesting fact….The Bush family has had personal and business ties to both HITLER and the BIN LADEN family.

    But that’s something the news media rarely talks about.

  125. DMAC Says:

    big oak boy Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 am

    those college kids are cool but we need experience at some positions
    ==========
    I think we’re seriously lacking experience at the WR position. Not a FA, lets make a deal for 85.

  126. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ********Chimdi is NOT just a speed guy!*********
    I keep hearing Oakland only drats for speed and that is only half the picture with this guy. Chimdi Chekwa was one of my favorite players at OSU. He has upside and is not just another speedster he will put his nose in there and make a hit. He really does a good job of playing the deep ball. He broke his wrist making a big break up to help win the Arkansas game.

    He also works hard and stays out of trouble. This is NOT another speedster only. This is a good prospect who I could see playing in our system.

    Plus, I don’t get the whole Raider speed any way. Every other team looks at 40 time as well of course he has to have the right skill set to match. But if you are going to play corner on the Raiders on an island every Sunday with a D-Rush that may or may not show up, well you better be fast. We have to groom young corners with speed to learn our system. We cut Hall who goes on to be a probowler in Washington but he could not operate with our D scheme. He needed to sit in a zone and gamble all day long.

  127. da trinity Says:

    Tj could end up in the next ch

  128. DKnight007 Says:

    Well, as I have been discussing the last two days with friends and fellow Raider fans and Tittles show today on 860am. I think the Raiders had a slightly above average draft.

    Love the pick of Wiz in Round 2. Good value and he is a solid technician. He can play Center or Guard and will eventually be the starter at Center. At 6′3, 313, he is considered a big powerful Center. Most Centers go between 295 and 305. Wiz will turn into a good one.

    I though taking Van Dyke was taken a bit high in Round 3 but he is a man cover corner and there weren’t many in the draft.

    Nice to see them trade up to get big Barksdale (love the name from The Wire) he can play RT or RG and we just have to hope he isn’t the second coming of Mario Henderson. I don’t think he will be…he is more physical than Mario.

    NOW, to my MAIN problem with this Raider draft…old man Al passes on CASEY MATTHEWS and takes another CB in Chekwa? Ugh….dumb….dumb….and dumb IMO.

    Matthews would help against the run and on special teams and he can get to the QB in blitz packages and could play ILB in a 3-4 and nickel alignments and would immediately compete for the WILL OLB spot in the base 4-3. How many CB’s does the old man need now since Nnamdi is gone? It’s better to load up on LB’s ahead of CB’s IMO.

    However, I like the back end picks with the the blocking TE Gordon, WR Moore and WR Ausberry.

    Gordon will provide depth and he can block and catch every now and then. He just needs to be coached up. Moore from Tenn is a playmaker and I think he will definitely make the team. Ausberry from USC is a strong and physical possession type of WR and I think he has upside as well. Just needs work on his route running. He will make the team or at the very least be put on practice squad.

    Overall a B- draft grade for me this year for Raiders….it would have been a A- if they would have drafted CASEY MATTHEWS like they should have though!

    That’s the type of thing that pisses me off with the old man Al and when he decides to value CB’s over DLinemen or LB’s!

  129. DKnight007 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Birth Certificate in one hand, Bin-Laden’s head in the other.

    Domino MfKer

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep…Yep!!

  130. da trinity Says:

    Aig it’s like its own city bro

  131. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “The stadiums financed with public money?”

    Name one stadium that is 100% financed by public money?

    Name one owner that can afford a Billion dollar stadium without help?

    So should the players pay for the stadiums since they are so fiscally responsible and they do make a greater percentage of the gate 60%

    Where did you go to school?

  132. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Sorry AIG but I hate the FedEx Memphis location, if any of my packages get lost, it is always there. I understand, #$*@! happens, but the person somehow always tells me it is my fault. Oh, did you tape it up correctly, well maybe you used too Much/Not enough tape.

  133. irjonny Says:

    key free agents to consider when lockout is over/stayed:

    -santana moss WR (WAS)
    -vonta leach FB (HOU)
    -John Kuhn FB (GB)
    -justin blalock G (ATL)
    -jared gaither OT (BAL)
    -marshal yanda OT/G (BAL)
    -Cullen Jenkins DT/DE (GB)
    -Barry Cofield DT (NYGIA)
    -Rocky Mcintosh OLB (WAS)
    -Manny Lawson OLB (SF)
    -Stephan Spach TE (ARI)

  134. DMAC Says:

    Mason Foster>Mathews (IMO)

    I’m pissed that he passed on this guy. All he did was stuff the run and lead the nation in tackles.

  135. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Could someone explain for me the reason we did not look to trade Nnamdi if we knew we were not going to keep him rather than letting him just walk away a free agent with a pocket full of Big Al dollars and nothing to show for it.

  136. RaiderRetribution Says:

    The more I think about it the more I like this draft.

    We are set at DB whether we resign Nnamdi or Huff, both, ot neither.

    It will be interesting not only how DVD & Chex adapt to Rod W., but how Routt, Branch, Johnson, Ware, McFadden, Eugene, Brown, and 34mm step up.

    Great players [aka Singletary, Bill Russell], when coaching sometimes get aggravated [shall we say] with players who do play to the caliber they are capable of.

  137. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Legend, no one was going to take on Nnamdi’s contract.

  138. da trinity Says:

    Aig may God bless u with a permanent job there if that’s what u want. I have been at fedex for 4 years I’m now qualified to start training to become a manager .

  139. Silverandblack666 Says:

    a typical stadium deal is probably financed by many different entities. The public, the owner, bonds, etc.

    So the owners have to partially finance the place the players play, the insurance on the stadium, the concessions, field maintenance, marketing, ticket sales, the list goes on. They are financially at risk.

    All the players have to do is show up and play, in most cases. Some are guaranteed money even if they don’t play. So yeah lets create more Albert Haynesworth’s at the expense of the “FANS” smart guy.

  140. irjonny Says:

    key UDFA to consider:

    -Mark Herzlich LB
    -Pat Devlin QB (A MUST SIGN)
    -Ian Williams DT
    -Preston Dial FB
    -David Mims OT
    -Richard Lapham OT
    -Thomas Claiborne G
    -Jake Vermiglio G
    -Olli Ogbu DT
    -DeAndre McDaniel S

  141. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    -Raider R. – DO you think someone takes his contract on now?

  142. big oak boy Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:48 am

    big oak boy Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 am

    those college kids are cool but we need experience at some positions
    ==========
    I think we’re seriously lacking experience at the WR position. Not a FA, lets make a deal for 85.

    i hear u on that but its alot of hate out here plus hue is incharge so he will love that

  143. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    How about a package deal of Carson Palmer and #85?

  144. DMAC Says:

    For whom? draft picks?

  145. big oak boy Says:

    How about a package deal of Carson Palmer and #85?

    next years 1st for both

  146. DMAC Says:

    Here’s my list of undrafted players I think we should take a look at…
    (Not in this particular order)
    Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina
    Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
    Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware
    Kristofer O’Dowd, C, USC
    Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut
    Kenny Rowe, OLB, Oregon

  147. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
    “The stadiums financed with public money?”

    Name one stadium that is 100% financed by public money?
    ————————————
    Oakland Overstock Coliseum.

  148. aig-raiders Says:

    Da Trinity,

    Congrats man. Thanks man but I have no aspiration to be in Memphis any minute longer than 8/19. Enough of tornadoes down here. I miss earthquakes and we are back on the West Coast soon.

  149. neilb Says:

    check

  150. da trinity Says:

    The players needed to complete this team are we. C. Johnson, any guard better then loper, namdi, huff, rocky Mocintosh lb and rt from atlanta are gaither for rt and that ladies and gents would be a team

  151. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @Silverandblack666
    You just said that the owners had all the risk?
    Did I say that 100% of the stadiums are financed with public money, No. But a stadium built with a large percentage of public money mitigates the risk a NFL owner does have.
    Public Money Stadiums:
    Cleveland-74.7%
    Pittsburgh-78.7%
    Denver-68.4%
    Houston-73%
    Indianaplis-86%

    Actually, the revenue split is not 60%, because you are not taking into account the $1 Billion the NFL owners divide up before the pie is split.

  152. KoolKell Says:

    Avg NFL career is 3 years.

  153. da trinity Says:

    I work in cali out of the city of industry station. Aient nothing better then that cali weather

  154. Silverandblack666 Says:

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/archive/2010/05/cleveland_browns_1999_stadium.shtml

    Philadelphia Eagles (2003)
    Cost: $474 million
    Percentage of public financing: 40%

    Dallas Cowboys (2009)
    Stadium cost: $1.2 billion
    Percentage of public financing: 28.6%

    New York Jets/New York Giants (2010)
    Stadium cost: $1.6 billion
    Percentage of public financing: 0%

  155. big oak boy Says:

    how do u like that

  156. r8eray Says:

    DMAC Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 10:13 am
    I think Taiwan Jones is the steal of this years draft. I know he played in a weaker conference, but the dude has nice jukes, and stop and go acceleration. Made defenders look silly and has the potential to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.
    Nice pick Al.

    ———————

    Has potential but….needs to work on his fumblitis!

  157. DMAC Says:

    Im sure DMAC will teach him a thing or two about securing the ball.

  158. DMAC Says:

    better

  159. da trinity Says:

    all I know is if namdi leaves his jersey will do you half priced and best believe I’m gonna get one.

  160. big oak boy Says:

    da trinity Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am

    all I know is if namdi leaves his jersey will do you half priced and best believe I’m gonna get one.

    they should bring rod woodsons jersey back this yr superbowl edition

  161. ohioraider Says:

    15.Gust372 Says:
    May 2nd, 2011 at 9:10 am
    Brien’s a Republican. Of course he’s doing to downplay this. Like I said, Obbamas haters are so owned right now it’s not even funny. You can expect all kinds of silly, tin foil blather from them today. They’re upset about this news. They didn’t want Obamma to be the one who took out America’s biggest enemy in history.

    ————————————————-
    Ha! Yep. And listen up owned people: better save your powder for the election next year cause you’re gonna need it.

  162. raiderfankirk Says:

    Gust372. why the f do you think a player should get the same money as an owner. Players don’t have to play. College education and league min. for three years and a guy that’s not stupid w/ his money. 1.5 million in three years. He should be strait. I’m a white guy and voted for our pres. and have know prop. w/ any color unless they got a problem w/ me. STFU you racist NIG.

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