Could be slim pickings in free agency
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 4th, 2011 at 3:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The NFL Network put together a list of prospective free agents should the NFL be ordered to end the lockout this week and open its doors.
Conventional wisdom has it that free agency would commence under 2010 rules, meaning players would to have six accrued seasons for unrestricted free agents.
Not sure how complete the list is (it’s missing Michael Huff, for instance), but there are not a lot of players there who would be of much help this season. In fact, two of the better players on the list are Raiders who are in all probability heading elsewhere _ cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and guard Robert Gallery.
With such a week free agent field (if 2010 rules apply), Asomugha would be the top name in free agency and it’s hard to imagine him coming away anything less than $15 million per year. He won’t get that in Oakland.
Gallery and the Raiders have already mutually agreed to part ways.
It could be the most appealing free agents from other teams aren’t free yet and are awaiting release or trade, with Carolina wide receiver Steve Smith and Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Johnson being two that immediately come to mind.
DENARIUS MOORE Q&A
Here’s a transcript from Denarius Moore, the Raiders fifth-round draft pick out of Tennessee, during his media session at the NFL scouting combine:
Q: Expectations at combine?
Moore: I hit my mark on the bench, repped 225 13 times, and I ma hoping to run a low 4.3.
Q: Do you consider yourself a sleeper in this draft class?
Moore:
Moore: The way I look at it is if they doubt me they doubt me, if I surprise them I surprise them. I am just going to come in here and do what I am supposed to do and reach my goals.
Q: How would you rate your college career?
Moore: It was a little shaky at the beginning and caught on at the end. That’s where I show my talent.
Q: Why was it shaky at the start?
Moore: Getting timing with the quarterback, all the quarterback switching, the coaches not trusting the players and then the players not trusting the coaches and being together. It was real tough, some ups and downs, and a new receivers coach every year and they come in and pretty much don’t know nothing about you. They can watch film but they don’t know your personality or how you played.
Q: It took off when QB Tyler Bray came in . . .
Moore: Of course Tyler Bray had a lot to do with it, he was the one throwing the ball. But also the coaches being able to trust their players to do things right and also the timing with the quarterback.’’
Q: Who do you pattern your game after?
Moore: I pretty much don’t pattern my game after anybody else, I try and be different. But if I would say anybody I would say Andre Johnson and Jeremy Maclin. They are physical, can get off press coverage.
Q: Where do you think you’ll be picked?
Moore: The last I heard was early third or late second, but then again I am in the gray area, constantly moving up.
Q: Why such big production in certain games?
It was just us coming in and getting a game plan to see what the weaknesses were and using it to our advantage. Double-moves, go routes, getting them biting on short routes and then coaches trusting the players to make the plays.
Q: How end up in Tennessee?
Moore: It’s a long story. Me and the running back I graduated with from high school decided to go to school together and we ended up at the same school together and he ended up transferring.
BUSH NOT WORRIED ABOUT SAINTS WORKOUTS
Sounds as if Raiders running back Michael Bush got tired of hearing about the lockout workouts held by the New Orleans Saints as organized by quarterback Drew Brees.
On his Twitter account, Bush said, “I dont care about da saints workin out people please stop sending me that da raider players are taking care of business as well n other ways.”
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May 4th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
uno!
May 4th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
JaRu!
May 4th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Jerry, you read my posts?
May 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Wow, Charlie Casserly was just surprisingly complimentary of the Raiders’ draft class on NFL Network.
May 4th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Daniel Loper is listed as a Free agent on that list?
May 4th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
It looks like the Jets (Sanchez) are also organizing team activities.
C’mon Campbell….!!!!!
Jets receiver Braylon Edwards showed up Wednesday at “Jets West,” the informal practices organized by Mark Sanchez in Southern California.
May 4th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Brandon Bair
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
FA targets:
OT Jammal Brown
OT Tyson Clabo
OG Reggie Wells
OG Harvey Dahl*
DE Dave Ball
WR Santana Moss
I’d like to see Dahl or Brown in FA, and Mims/Bell, Silva/Lefeged, Bair/Thornton, Portis/Devlin, and Williams as UDFAs.
*Harvey Dahl isn’t on that NFL Network list, but has six years of experience so he’ll be a UFA.
May 4th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Would feel much better about the line if it looked like:
Veldheer – Loper/Campbell – Wiz – Dahl – Barksdale
There needs to be SOME kind of veteran presence on the right side of the line. If it’s Wiz – Campbell – Barksdale they’re going to struggle, particularly against teams who are good at disguising their looks.
May 4th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
KK thought you would like this:
“And finally, why should the Supreme Court give these big global companies First Amendment right to spend unlimited amounts of money on our elections?
You see, we’re relying on our elected officials for policies that help create jobs with good wages here in America, which isn’t exactly the objective of these global enterprises.”
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/05/04/pm-corporate-profits-dont-translate/
May 4th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Raiders looking at undrafted OG B.J. Cabbell of Univ of Virginia, a three-year starter:
http://www2.madison-news.com/sports/2011/may/04/cabbell-saunders-vie-nfl-status-ar-1016175/
May 4th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
I got my money on TO. You heard it hear first.
May 4th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
The Raiders used to build football teams. Now they stalk openly critical fans. Look at their record since 2003. How the mighty have fallen.
May 4th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Al Davis needs to have his low paid help call general managers and make offers, not call fans’ workplaces.
May 4th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
I usually buy madden right when it comes out but this year I’m gonna wait until I know that there will be a season. I would hate to start playing franchise mode, and then have to restart it so I can have the new free agents we sign. You know what I’m saying
May 4th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Jerry, You’re a lazy man. Here’s the complete list of all 2011 Free Agents and it’s not such a slim list.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fa9321/article/unofficial-list-of-potential-2011-free-agents?campaign=Twitter_features
Here’s another article:
2011 could offer worst crop of free agents in modern-era system
By Jason La Canfora NFL Network
Vonta Leach might be one of the true anomalies in the NFL right now — a Pro Bowl free-agent-to-be, still yet to turn 30. In this distorted labor situation, that alone will put you in some pretty exclusive company.
Teams and agents, operating under the awkward backdrop of an on-again, off-again, on-again lockout, still do not know when the 2011 league year will begin and what it will look like. Some clarity is expected when the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals makes a decision on whether or not to stay Judge Susan Nelson’s decision to enjoin the lockout. The possibility exists that the NFL will have to impose rules for the 2011 season at some point, and if it does, general managers expect those rules to look an awful lot like those used in the 2010 season. That included players needing six years of accrued seasons to become unrestricted free agents (rather than four, the norm during the past CBA).
Unofficial list of free agents
With the rules for the 2011 league year still to be determined, Jason La Canfora compiled a list of potential free agents based on if the NFL operates under 2010 rules. More …
» Carucci: Teams with holes to fill
“It has been kind of a weird year,” said Leach, 29, a seven-year vet. “By this time you usually already know where you’re going to be at, and you’re establishing a relationship with your new teammates if you’re not going to be with your current teammates. Right now you’re just in limbo about everything, but I’m ready to go ahead and get this over with no matter what the rules are.”
And if the 2010 rules remain in place, then Leach, Houston’s Pro Bowl fullback, will be among a very select handful of prime free agents in what could be the worst crop since this era of free agency began in the mid 1990s. It makes last year’s mundane market seem remarkable by comparison, as this class of roughly 220 players lacks sizzle at key spots like quarterback, offensive tackle, and anyone capable of mustering a consistent pass rush.
The potential lack of name recognition aside, here’s a look at seven other free-agents-to-be who could stand to do well on the open market.
Nnamdi Asomugha, corner
By far the top prize of this free-agent class and the only one of these 200-odd players who could rightly make a claim to being the very best in the world at his position. He’s without a doubt in the top two or three, if you want to put Darrelle Revis first. Asomugha is creeping up on 30, but is still in line for a massive payday that will exceed $15 million per season. Houston and Dallas are not shy about spending money, and both could use a corner. The Jets were a rumored suitor, but in this scenario still have Antonio Cromartie as a restricted free agent. Given his age, Asomugha makes the most sense for teams that are already playoff ready or just on the cusp.
Thomas Davis, linebacker
The Panthers love this linebacker, who has essentially missed two straight seasons because of injuries now. A 2005 first-round pick, Davis was emerging as a leader and a key figure in their defense. However, consecutive ACL tears have cast his future in doubt. He’s still just 28 — and that’s with two lost seasons. He fought as hard as he could to make it back last season and Carolina kept a roster spot open for him for a good part of the year hoping he would do so — a testament to how much general manager Marty Hurney thinks of his importance to the team. I would suspect he will garner a fair amount of interest and would be seen by many as the top linebacker available.
Teams in need of a QB have options
The potential list of free-agent quarterbacks is far from spectacular, but there could be some intriguing signal-callers available in trades, says Steve Wyche. More …
Darren Sproles, running back
A potential special teams game-changer and someone who, after being franchised in the past, might be a luxury the Chargers can no longer afford with Ryan Mathews and Mike Tolbert in the backfield, too. Might have been an intriguing possibility for the Falcons — who hit big on former Chargers running back Michael Turner in free agency a few years back — but their selection of Jacquizz Rodgers in the draft negates that. Too much talent for an innovative coordinator not to tap into as Norv Turner has for years in San Diego. Sproles was in line for a nice deal a year ago prior to being designated a restricted free agent under the uncapped year in 2010.
Marc Bulger, quarterback
You will find plenty of scouts who believe he is done. They feel years of heavy hits and concussions have rendered him less of a quarterback and decision-maker. They don’t see him getting through a season as a starter. But there are plenty in the Ravens organization — where he was a backup last year — that believe Bulger could end up being a free-agent steal for someone. He clearly fits Arizona’s system, as he and Kurt Warner have the same passing roots. Arizona chose to be too frugal with him a year ago, but I doubt that’s the case now. While some in Washington’s organization are high on Bulger, I doubt the Redskins would put together the kind of financial package the Cardinals would. Could Bulger re-establish himself in Arizona as Warner did a few years back?
Anthony Hargrove, defensive lineman
Personal demons behind him and tapped back into his athletic prowess, Hargrove could shine outside in a 4-3 scheme. New Orleans lacked depth at tackle, and so he played primarily on the interior, but other teams see him as a potential disrupter off the edge. He’d love to get the opportunity. Still just 27 years old, he’s an absolutely baby by the standards of this free-agent class.
Aubrayo Franklin, defensive tackle
If you are desperate for a true nose tackle — Washington, for instance, is — then this is your best (only?) real option. Age is not ideal, as he is 30, but he has played at a Pro Bowl level in the past and was franchised in 2009. Was a spare part early in his career, so a bit younger health-wise than some veterans of the trenches. He can be a difficult force to handle anchoring the defensive line.
Terrell Owens, receiver
Based on production alone, Owens was a steal for the Bengals in 2010. Even though it was a miserable season for them, Owens was very solid. He still drops too many balls and still puts his foot in his mouth (calling out Bengals owner Mike Brown after the season was silly and shortsighted). It could be another long wait for him this offseason, but I have to wonder if Seattle, which dabbled with the idea of signing him a year ago, might be his best option this time around. No matter where he goes, or when he lands, there will be no lack of intrigue surrounding it.
Overall, the defensive line, though without marquee names, is a strength here. The players mentioned above, plus ends Cullen Jenkins and Andre Carter (though I like him much more as a 4-3 outside linebacker), could help someone’s front seven without a doubt. Jenkins is a versatile player whose stock will be high coming off his superb effort in the playoffs helping the Packers to a Super Bowl title.
Oh, and this shallow market will be likely made even less fertile by, say, Mark Clayton — who was emerging as a deep threat for the Rams in 2010 before injury — possibly staying put. And I don’t think too many people envision Olin Kreutz anywhere but Chicago. The Panthers will certainly make a concerted effort to retain Davis, with management huge fans of his will, effort and desire, to say nothing of performance.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
KoolKell,
As opposed to those that just follow the party line?
May 4th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
I like that the BCS is being challenged.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Watched some Taiwan Jones videos on YouTube. Obviously, the young man can fly, but the thing that really stood out for me was that he doesn’t mess around when he gets the ball. No juking at the line, no dancing around looking for the hole. He gets the ball and he GOES.
I know he’s not going to get a ton of snaps next year, but when he’s in there he’s going to be dangerous, particularly outside. If the defense doesn’t set the edge and set it quickly the’yre going to have to chase him. He really is explosive.
May 4th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
It might be slim pickins, but we better get at least two veteran starters, one for the o-line and one for either safety or corner, and a vet WR wouldn’t be a bad freakin idea while were at it. This draft wasn’t enough to reload us for next year, and if we lose one more starter besides Huff and ASO we are going to be hurtin for certain….
Get Chad and *gulp* Grads on the phone..we need some insurance..
May 4th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Al Davis as Darth Sidious? And other Star Wars connections
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fac843/article/al-davis-as-darth-sidious-and-other-star-wars-connections?module=HP_spotlight
May 4th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I read where Steve Smith wants to play for the NATION… I will take him over TO and Chad combined…
He still has a lot of game in the tank…..
May 4th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
May 4th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Your Oakland Raiders: Still 29th in the league against the run and standing pat.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Tells the true story, Kell. Since free agency, Al Davis has been one of the worst general managers in the game. He has only succeeded consistently in that time when Jon Gruden was with him.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Does anyone know the status of Plaxico? Is there a restriction on his contract once he is eligible again?
Why do people say he has to sign for league min?
May 4th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
kell, don’t bother. For people like him, their paranoid thoughts are more comforting than a more pleasant reality. They need drama and conspiracies like a moth needs light. Just let him buzz. He gets out of hand, smash him.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
gust,who hates the Raiders more, you or kk? Who hates Al more,you or KK? Who hates this country more,you or KK? You seem,on a daily basis,MISERABLE,imo Hey,both of you have posts that are somewhat interesting,but seem to strive for the butthead cap,if you will.You arent the same guy/gal,are ya? RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
May 4th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Gust/KK,i just get tired of the same whining,Every day,same people,regardless of the posts!Im hoping for RAIDER football this year,you?
May 4th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Fellas,Im out till Thursday,hopefully,some Football info,RAIDERS!!!!!!
May 4th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
30.Gust372 Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
These mods must be laughing at people who claim their free speech is being violated because their comments are moderated. If you graduated from high school and you’re incapable of discerning the difference between free speech and private ownership granting permission to speak on their private property, you need to sue your school district. You missed a couple of vital days in government class.
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Thats is the most educated thing I have ever read of yours. Well done MR.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
MR, why the new ip adress?
May 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
I’m not sure how people see Barksdale starting this year, I can’t see that unless he’s much better than I think. I think people project him as a starter because he was just drafted. But I think he’s depth and when you draft young kids it’s not necessarily to start them it’s fpr development. I think both kids barksdale and Wiz are very good prospects but starters? I think we should wait and see.
If the Raiders want to have a good Oline starting this season they better re-sign the FA’s because starting a bunch of young players like that isn’t wise at all. I think they can both help if needed but I wouldn’t start both.
I think DMoore has a chance to start and maybe DVD can play a lot but too many rookies starting anywhere is dangerous. Give them time to develope into legitimate NFL players.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Walker, Henderson, and Barnes are as good as gone. Unless the Raiders go after two or three of the few worthwhile veterans on the FA market (who they’ll surely have to overpay for), the rookies will have every opportunity to start.
Wiz is a shoe in as a Day 1 starter, Hue Jackson made that clear. Barksdale will very likely start too… if Veldheer can come in from a Div II school as a third round pick and be a starter, then I don’t see why Barksdale can’t.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Walker henderson and Barnes good as gone? How do you know? Why would they have to overpay for FA’s?
Those kids could easily re-sign and probably will. I’m not sure where you guys are getting all this stuff…….lol
Henderson will probably be the opening day starter at RT and Campbell RG. Wiz may start at LG or C but I just don’t see that much turnover on the line it’s not wise. Veldheer started out of necessity he really wasn’t ready but we were thin there. You can’t tell me that Barksdale is better than Hederson and Walker and Barnes at this point maybe soon but not day1.
You guys are way too anxious to plug in rookies before they’re ready. The same with Vledheer at C last year, which was flat out stupid. Give these guys a chance to catch up to the speed of the NFL. Mooore is just soo talented that it could happen this same is true with DVD. But that is about it let the rest develope into NFL calibre players before you expose the QB to a downright beatdown…………..Come on man it doesn’t make sense.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
On his Twitter account, Bush said, “I dont care about da saints workin out people please stop sending me that da raider players are taking care of business as well n other ways.”
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Like going to court. Talking to lawyers. Attending counseling…
May 5th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Raccoon, you installed an app to track ip addresses on this blog? Just what do you expect to accomplish with that? Do you think I’m going to stop commenting here and telling the truth about the Raiders because some weird raider nation lonewolf has me narrowed down to 500,000 people? Dork.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:05 am
The average American is tracked by over 200 data bases.
Has anyone even READ the Patrikot Act?
On the 27th they vote to make it PERMANENT you know?
May 5th, 2011 at 1:21 am
Who was saying take Steve Smith and Ocho? Hey man, I’m all for it. Our rookie projects have not panned out. Need proven vets apparently lets see how that goes
May 5th, 2011 at 2:18 am
I just want to put all the rumors about nnamdi leaving….NOT TRUE!!! I just watch a video of him and greg papa interview from LAST YEAR AND Nnamdi SAID that he WANTS TO BE A RAIDER REGUARDLESS OF ANY TRADES!!If you don’t beileve me go to csnbayarea.com and search for nnamdi asomugha and look for 1on1 with nnamdi asomugha and watch for yourself….SO ENJOY!!!He will be back with the oakland raiders 2011!!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:20 am
Going after smith would be stupid since we already have ford whinis similar but is faster let’s see if he continues to develop and make plays… I say he will be more deadly than last year…. His upside us higher than any recievers we have… If we do bring in a recievers Ocho cinco is our best bet… He knows the system and Hue and can Teach these boys how to run some crisp intermediate routes…. DHB will be wearing a new # if Ocho cinco comes to town…. If barksdale and wiz both start and do good we are in much better shape than last year… If our line gives up less sacks and continues to be a top 3 rushing team than we are playoff bound…. If that happens then maybe coach Wiz would still be contributing to our line even after retirement….
May 5th, 2011 at 2:21 am
http://www.csnbayarea.com/05/27/10/1-on-1-with-Raiders-CB-Nnamdi-Asomugha/landing
May 5th, 2011 at 2:23 am
Forget that address i just put i mispelled the addy…lol but just go to csnbayarea.com then type in nnamdi asomugha name and u will find the video that was from last year may 27 2010….HE WANTS TO BE A RAIDER!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:30 am
For a wr…How about Dwayne Bowe???
May 5th, 2011 at 2:32 am
For a back -up QB,Whatever happen to drew staton or is that spell right??….I thought he was a good qb,what do you think?
May 5th, 2011 at 2:55 am
“Your comment is awaiting moderation” -Wtf does that mean?
May 5th, 2011 at 4:39 am
Man oh man, what a sweet feeling to wake up and see that LA lost two straight at home.
I just might celebrate with some ditchweed.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Two years ago I said pro teams would start having money problems but I did not think it would be the Dodgers who actually seem to draw a crowd.
This is just my opinion however many games I see on the boob tube are devoid of paying fans. It used to just be the Rays but I see it all the time now at all the stadiums.
They just need to hold out a little longer
The economy is about to turn around. All the newspapers and important talking heads say that it will.
May 5th, 2011 at 5:36 am
If the Raiders want to have a good Oline starting this season they better re-sign the FA’s because starting a bunch of young players like that isn’t wise at all. I think they can both help if needed but I wouldn’t start both.
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I agree. I heard too many people thinking Barksdale could start and so can Campbell. I hope they can, but I wouldn’t suddenly throw in 3 rookies on Center, Right Tackle and Right Guard (Campbell was so raw last year, he’s still basically like a rookie this year). We had the #2 rushing in the NFL and the O-line does have something to do with that. And probably our two most consistant players last year are probably not playing this year with us (Left Guard & Center).
May 5th, 2011 at 6:10 am
# priesttj Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Walker henderson and Barnes good as gone? How do you know? Why would they have to overpay for FA’s?
Those kids could easily re-sign and probably will. I’m not sure where you guys are getting all this stuff…….lol
Henderson will probably be the opening day starter at RT and Campbell RG. Wiz may start at LG or C but I just don’t see that much turnover on the line it’s not wise. Veldheer started out of necessity he really wasn’t ready but we were thin there. You can’t tell me that Barksdale is better than Hederson and Walker and Barnes at this point maybe soon but not day1.
You guys are way too anxious to plug in rookies before they’re ready. The same with Vledheer at C last year, which was flat out stupid. Give these guys a chance to catch up to the speed of the NFL. Mooore is just soo talented that it could happen this same is true with DVD. But that is about it let the rest develope into NFL calibre players before you expose the QB to a downright beatdown…………..Come on man it doesn’t make sense.
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According to Steve Corkran, Henderson and Barnes declined signing one-year offers, and Walker is considering retirement.
They’d have to overpay for FAs because it’s a very thin free agents class, especially along the offensive line, and the Raiders wouldn’t be the only team looking for veteran help.
I agree that the team needs veteran help on the offensive line, but there aren’t going to be many options available to the Raiders. Barksdale will have every opportunity to start on Day 1. Wise? Maybe not, but that’s how it’s going to be.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Charlie Casserly talked about the Raiders Draft on NFLN yesterday, here’s a recap:
- Started off praising the Richard Seymour deal:
“That’s a pretty good first round pick” he said, noting he became the leader on defense, made the Pro Bowl last year and how it only took 1 pick to get him, finished by saying “excellent 1st round pick”.
- He liked Wisniewski as well, said he was coming in and starting at Center right away and that he was a “technician and a very efficient blocker”.
- Casserly went with Taiwan Jones next, he said:
“Excellent speed guy, space runner, outside player” also said we’ll need him since McFadden “a Pro Bowl Player” misses some time and that now we have Taiwan to replace him.
- Then he said there were two areas we needed to get better at, as well as some depth, CB and OL, so we adressed those issues.
Said we drafted speed at CB, saying:
“you can’t coach speed, but you can teach technique and the way they play with press technique at the line, if you can teach to get your hands on the WR speed will take care of the rest”.
- Finished saying “Good job, Oakland Raiders”.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:46 am
When JC looks terrible vs the Bears, Packers, Vikings, Jets, and Patriots, will his apologists again blame the young receivers or the young o-line?
May 5th, 2011 at 7:11 am
This is really going to end vs the Mavs?
PUUUUUUUUKE!
Oh well, I guess they can’t win it every year. The Lakers will be back eventually. Can’t wait to see D. Howard in purp and gold.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:17 am
@ #50…
Nice work Bob!
I like the cliff note versions of some the scouting reports you bring here. Nice contribution.
Interesting that Taiwan Jones is considered a possible replacement for McFadden. I never envisioned him that way.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:18 am
D. Howard is another one dimensional choke artist. Did he even lead his team to the 2nd round? And this is the guy that is going to make a difference? LMAO
May 5th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Not only is the FA OL class thin, (I agree that they will have to overpay) but a lot of them that are technically FA’s are going to get scooped up in a New York minute by their old teams as soon as Free Agency opens again.
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According to Steve Corkran, Henderson and Barnes declined signing one-year offers, and Walker is considering retirement.
They’d have to overpay for FAs because it’s a very thin free agents class, especially along the offensive line, and the Raiders wouldn’t be the only team looking for veteran help.
I agree that the team needs veteran help on the offensive line, but there aren’t going to be many options available to the Raiders. Barksdale will have every opportunity to start on Day 1. Wise? Maybe not, but that’s how it’s going to be.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:27 am
54.guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:18 am
D. Howard is another one dimensional choke artist. Did he even lead his team to the 2nd round? And this is the guy that is going to make a difference? LMAO
++++++++++
You probably thought the same thing about Shaq.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:28 am
I think the Raiders’ best bet is going to be Harvey Dahl. Solid veteran OG with a mean streak, and Atlanta will have to try to keep both him and Tyson Clabo, the latter of whom will probably be the priority. May have to throw a bunch of money at one and let the other go. Dahl would be a veteran presence at RG, and would fit in nicely with Hue’s shift towards more of an emphasis on power blocking.
Jammal Brown could be an option at RT, but he’s getting up there in age and had trouble staying healthy last season.
There’s a possibility the Pats will cut Nick Kaczur, but he’s coming off a back injury. The Pats could also choose to keep him since Light is an FA, Mangold might leave, and Neal retired.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I believe Harvey Dahl and Tyson Clabo were both on practice squads a couple of years ago (and undrafted).
We need to hit these practice squads and grab these guys before we have to overpay for them in FA.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Post 53, thanks.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:34 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I believe Harvey Dahl and Tyson Clabo were both on practice squads a couple of years ago (and undrafted).
We need to hit these practice squads and grab these guys before we have to overpay for them in FA.
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Agreed.
Would love to see Byron Bell, David Mims, and/or Zach Hurd as UDFAs.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I believe Harvey Dahl and Tyson Clabo were both on practice squads a couple of years ago (and undrafted).
We need to hit these practice squads and grab these guys before we have to overpay for them in FA.
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Right on, there’s a ton of low round draft picks – Undrated Free Agent OL starting for quality teams around the league.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Did Jake Kirkpatrick go undrafted?
May 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
From football news now:
The Oakland Raiders could find their veteran wide receiver in Steve Smith.
The Carolina Panthers star does not want to return to next season and there’s a good chance the team will trade him.
Make no mistake about it, Smith loves the city of Charlotte, but “he does not want to spend another year rebuilding at his age” according to a league source. He will turn 32 later this month.
The Lynwood, Calif. native is hoping to be traded to the Raiders or San Diego Chargers next season the source added.
It has been widely reported Smith has already cleared out his locker and residence in Carolina. He wants to return home.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Key to an offensive line, IMO, is continuity.
Even with Cable’s ragtag group this past year, they started playing pretty well, especially from the midway point on.
I don’t like the idea of Wiz at C for the first time in 18 months, Campbell with his first start at RG and any other OL changes from last year, all on opening night in Denver.
I guess the argument on the flip side is to allow them to take their lumps for the benefit long-term. But that doesn’t really jive with Al’s win-now mantra.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:00 am
bcz24 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Did Jake Kirkpatrick go undrafted?
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Yeah, he’s a UDFA. A good list of UDFA’s here:
http://thenationalfootballreport.com/2011/04/30/list-of-best-udfas-for-2011-nfl-draft/
May 5th, 2011 at 8:02 am
The headscratcher was that Kirkpatrick was considered by some to be the 2nd best center in the draft. Some had him at a 2nd round grade. Yet here is an UDFA.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I talk to a guy whos a Broncos fanb a lot and he says John Fox is saying Franklin (their 2nd round draft pick) will start at right tackle. That means Ryan Harris, their current right tackle could be let go. If he is, he is definitely worth bringing in. He’s a good player with some injury history. He would be a big upgrade at RT instead of counting on Barksdale to be good right off the bat.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:06 am
Yeah thats why I was wondering. Sign him, let Wiz2 replace Gallery at guard and Kirkpatrick play center
May 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Not a big fan of Steve Smith. At his age and mileage. We’d be better served force feeding DHB another year and prove he’s a bust. One last chance, and if he can’t produce cut him like JaMarcus and move on. There is a lot of talent on this roster, but we have to develop it, or flip it and clear the cupboards.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Ryan Harris is a much better fit in a ZBS, but could be a good enough rotational player. Young with considerable upside. Struggled under McDaniels when he switched from ZBS, though. That why Denver drafted Franklin.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:09 am
From what I’ve heard, Kirkpatrick is very, very unpolished. Has good physical tools but will need time to get his play anywhere near the level of a potential NFL starter.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:12 am
@64, I agree with you on continuity of the OL. I am not buying the idea that we start a late round OL his first year. Veldheer and Campbell where much more solid prospects that didn’t start week #1.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
From what I’ve heard, Kirkpatrick is very, very unpolished. Has good physical tools but will need time to get his play anywhere near the level of a potential NFL starter.
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Has H/W/S tools. You can’t coach up physical tools.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Key to an offensive line, IMO, is continuity.
Even with Cable’s ragtag group this past year, they started playing pretty well, especially from the midway point on.
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With sub-par players, all continuity gets you is continuously bad offensive line play.
Right side of the line struggled mightily, averaging only 3.5 ypc off that side in the running game. Pass protection was bad all year long. Yes, JC had something to do with that, but JC is still going to be the starter this year. The Raiders brought in some help for him, however, so those guys will likely see the field early.
I’m fine with it taking a season for them to gel. I don’t see this team as being playoff caliber yet. Next year, when the QB class in the draft is much better, whoever comes in will have a solid supporting cast with a year of experience. Or, best case scenario, JC starts playing at a Pro Bowl level and the Raiders don’t have to worry about drafting a young QB in the 1st round.
Still would like to see a veteran presence brought in on the right side, as I’m not sold on Campbell at all, and the rookies could indeed use some help. But we’ll see what happens when and if free agency starts.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
# guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:14 am
From what I’ve heard, Kirkpatrick is very, very unpolished. Has good physical tools but will need time to get his play anywhere near the level of a potential NFL starter.
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Has H/W/S tools. You can’t coach up physical tools.
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That’s correct. I think he’s worth a chance as a UDFA, even if he’s just practice squad fodder for a season or two.
Would really like to see Byron Bell or David Mims, though. OG/RT types who dominated at Div II. Could have a future at OG, especially if Campbell and Loper don’t pan out.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:20 am
69.guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Not a big fan of Steve Smith. At his age and mileage. We’d be better served force feeding DHB another year and prove he’s a bust. One last chance, and if he can’t produce cut him like JaMarcus and move on. There is a lot of talent on this roster, but we have to develop it, or flip it and clear the cupboards.
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I go back and forth as to weather Steve Smith would be a good aqquisition or not. I take into account his age and the fact he would be cutting into the time of our young recievers developing. On the other hand a veteran is really needed on this team IMO. I guess I’ll wait to see who else becomes available before I decide.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Actually, Bell was a Div I player, my mistake.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
I just don’t see Steve Smith as a veteran mentor type, but I could be wrong.
This is the guy that tried to knock out one of his teammates in training camp a couple years back.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:23 am
I would sign Steve Smith off the street, but I wouldnt trade for him.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
78.YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
I just don’t see Steve Smith as a veteran mentor type, but I could be wrong.
This is the guy that tried to knock out one of his teammates in training camp a couple years back.
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Kind of like Bill Romanowski?
May 5th, 2011 at 8:26 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Actually, Bell was a Div I player, my mistake.
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If you have seen the Lobo’s play the last few years, that could be debatable.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:27 am
# HairyBush Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:24 am
78.YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
I just don’t see Steve Smith as a veteran mentor type, but I could be wrong.
This is the guy that tried to knock out one of his teammates in training camp a couple years back.
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Kind of like Bill Romanowski?
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Good point.
I’d definitely wait until Carolina cuts him, though.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:28 am
If you have seen the Lobo’s play the last few years, that could be debatable.
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Ahahaha, fair enough.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:33 am
GM Raider Nation!
May 5th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Hypothetical question. Let’s say Smith comes in (or Ochocinco) and grabs a starting spot. Let’s say that Murphy/Ford have won spots based on play in preseason. What does Al do with DHB? Could this force a similar cutting of ties like Russell?
I hope we can give DHB a chance. The thing I like about him is that he does work hard. He seems to care. That was a far cry from Russell whom everyone lost patience with. But just one last chance for DHB. Grow up or move on.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:41 am
DHB is just in over his head as an NFL WR.
The game and catching the ball does not seem to come easy to him at all.
The talents seem to be there, the instincts……not so much.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:43 am
So we should just give up now on DHB, and not try to develop that talent? I think Sanjay Lal is at least in some way responsible. I’d hate for him to get cut, and re-emerge on the Packers say, and be a pro-bowl WR.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Even without a veteran on the team, it’s hard to see where DHB fits in.
Murphy has earned a spot by being the most consistent Raider receiver over the past two seasons (not saying much, but still). Ford has earned a spot because of his knack for the big play. I’m assuming Chaz is still on the team for a reason – when he’s healthy, he can play. So if he can stay in one piece through whatever might be left of training camp by the time the lockout is over, his role will be similar to what it was over the last couple games last season. Maybe more if he can handle it. Moore was drafted for a reason – he’ll be worked into the rotation early on. Miller signed a contract before the lockout began, so he’ll at least compete for a job.
So where does that leave DHB? Competing with Miller and Moore? And what if Moore outplays DHB like the last two late-round WRs have?
DHB has to show up in a big way if he wants to get on the field. I’m sure Al will throw him his obligatory scraps, but it’s hard to make an impact if you’re only on the field for a few snaps a game.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
wow charley casserly giving the raiders love saying they had an excellent draft
May 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
dude dhb isnt going anywhere and he will be our starter
May 5th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Bob Marley – Nice post thanks for sharing.
I could not agree more with what he said about corners. We play straight up man you need speed if you get burnt out there on that island man. Plus, look at the time we expect our corners to stay with a man. Also, I watched Checkwa play at OSU every week. I had no idea he was that fast. He was baiscly known for coming up and making plays. He will put his body on the line to knock down the ball or make a pick. He also tackles pretty well. He seemed like he was more a physical type of football player. DVD great speed and foot work Woodson’s project. We will see how well he does, he would not be the first Miami guy to come out of no where and perform well in the pros. To me they got speed but they still drafted for need. They seemed like well calculated crap shoots, which the draft is.
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50.Bob Marley Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Charlie Casserly talked about the Raiders Draft on NFLN yesterday, here’s a recap:
- Started off praising the Richard Seymour deal:
“That’s a pretty good first round pick” he said, noting he became the leader on defense, made the Pro Bowl last year and how it only took 1 pick to get him, finished by saying “excellent 1st round pick”.
- He liked Wisniewski as well, said he was coming in and starting at Center right away and that he was a “technician and a very efficient blocker”.
- Casserly went with Taiwan Jones next, he said:
“Excellent speed guy, space runner, outside player” also said we’ll need him since McFadden “a Pro Bowl Player” misses some time and that now we have Taiwan to replace him.
- Then he said there were two areas we needed to get better at, as well as some depth, CB and OL, so we adressed those issues.
Said we drafted speed at CB, saying:
“you can’t coach speed, but you can teach technique and the way they play with press technique at the line, if you can teach to get your hands on the WR speed will take care of the rest”.
- Finished saying “Good job, Oakland Raiders”.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
# mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:46 am
dude dhb isnt going anywhere and he will be our starter
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If DHB’s disappearance from the rotation over the last couple games of the season is any indication, I’m not so sure.
He’ll get his snaps, but he’ll be coming in off the bench. Which will make it even harder for him to establish himself.
If there’s no training camp for him to show that he can really play with the big boys, it’s going to be another disappointing season from DHB.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:49 am
If Al has to throw obligatory scraps at DHB, he will become a media distraction. A sore thumb to look at and remind everyone how crazy Al drafted the worst 1st round WR pick in years. That he could have taken a number of other great WR’s in that draft.
I applauded Al’s recognizing his mistake with Russell and moving on. He needs to do the same with DHB, for this team to get on the winning path.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:52 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Even without a veteran on the team, it’s hard to see where DHB fits in.
Murphy has earned a spot by being the most consistent Raider receiver over the past two seasons (not saying much, but still). Ford has earned a spot because of his knack for the big play. I’m assuming Chaz is still on the team for a reason – when he’s healthy, he can play.
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I don’t think Chaz will make the cut this season….Cable’s guy!
May 5th, 2011 at 8:53 am
DHB has to come up big this year or else his bust label just got bigger.
If he was taken in the later rounds of the draft HE WOULD NOT BE THE STARTER!!!!!
I hope Hue can work him in to some more plays and get him going. With all DHBs speed he does not come across as a deep threat to me. I would try more buble screens and reverses to take advantage of his speed and work him in the game that is how they used him more at Maryland. DHB may be more of a flanker then a split. He has a big frame so maybe he could create some miss matches there. That whole stretch the field BS is stupid.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Some some video of Moore. Nothing on tape leads me to believe he’s one of the 5 or 6 WR’s we keep.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:55 am
young i dont want dhb either but i still think al wants him to succseed.look at the press release they did last year for crying out loud the guy catches a few balls in training camp and all of a sudden al thinks hes cliff branch just like jason campell is plunkett.AL YOU HAVE LOST YOUR MIND!
May 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
94.r8eray Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:52 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Even without a veteran on the team, it’s hard to see where DHB fits in.
Murphy has earned a spot by being the most consistent Raider receiver over the past two seasons (not saying much, but still). Ford has earned a spot because of his knack for the big play. I’m assuming Chaz is still on the team for a reason – when he’s healthy, he can play.
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I don’t think Chaz will make the cut this season….Cable’s guy!
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Cable guy what??????? When Mr Glass was healthy he was the man. Most productive WR on the team. If he does not make it on the team it will have nothing to do with Cable gone and everything to do with not being able to be on the field. Great talent, heart, speed, bad body.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Except you do remember the embarrasing jumping for the ball on those bubble screens and catching around/off the hip bone? Those kind of instincts have been DHB’s trademark.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Let’s hope our new Offensevie Coordinator Al Saunders, who coached WR’s for some of the best passing teams ever like the early 80’s Don Coryell Chargers and and Dick Vermeil’s “greatest shown on turf” takes an active role in developing DHB, Murphy, Ford and Denarius Moore.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Moore can catch better then DHB right now.
I bet he can get open better as well.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
SOMETHING I HOPE WE HAVE TRAINING CAMP FOR.LETS GO STEVIE BROWN…….CLAP…CLAP…CLAPCLAP!
May 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
100.Bob Marley Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Let’s hope our new Offensevie Coordinator Al Saunders, who coached WR’s for some of the best passing teams ever like the early 80’s Don Coryell Chargers and and Dick Vermeil’s “greatest shown on turf” takes an active role in developing DHB, Murphy, Ford and Denarius Moore.
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For real! Good point Bob.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:57 am
# guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Some some video of Moore. Nothing on tape leads me to believe he’s one of the 5 or 6 WR’s we keep.
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Tape is not the same as video.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
KID HAS A KNACK FOR THE BALL AND I THINK THATS WHY M.HUFF AKA CANT TACKLE IS GONE
May 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Let’s hope our new Offensevie Coordinator Al Saunders, who coached WR’s for some of the best passing teams ever like the early 80’s Don Coryell Chargers and and Dick Vermeil’s “greatest shown on turf” takes an active role in developing DHB, Murphy, Ford and Denarius Moore.
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Maybe he can annoint Sanjay to be the designated ball shagger.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:59 am
DHB’s route running is going to have to get A LOT better under Al Saunders. Hopefully the Raiders can find ways to give DHB the ball in space so he can do what he does best – run.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Moore’s not a good route runner. Good hands, avg athletisism, decent speed.
He’s raw. Needs coaching to stay at the next level.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:02 am
I forgot Al Saunders also ran Vermeil’s offense in KC when they were a scoring machine a few years back.
An those teams didn’t really have marquee WR’s, like the guys he coached in San Diego and with the Rams.
“Over the course of the past four seasons, the Kansas City Chiefs were the top-scoring team in the NFL, had the most productive running attack in franchise history and often made good defenses look like they were playing with 10 men.
The man who ran that show was Saunders, Kansas City’s offensive coordinator and sole play-caller for five seasons”
May 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:58 am
KID HAS A KNACK FOR THE BALL……
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That line right there is a very understated concept to Al Davis.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Sorry for the typos … I’m in a lousy computer with a sticky keyboard
May 5th, 2011 at 9:09 am
I remember those Al Saunders KC teams. The common denominator of success was a kickbutt Offensive Line.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I read where Steve Smith wants to play for the NATION… I will take him over TO and Chad combined…
He still has a lot of game in the tank…..
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Thec, No Thanks!
Stats from the past 3 years …
Owens: 196 catches, 2864 yards & 24 TD’s
Smith: 189 catches, 2957 yards & 15 TD’s
plus Owens is 6′3″ – not 5′9″ .
Jacoby Ford is the only smurf welcome on the roster imo
May 5th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Go Mavs!
2-0, baby
May 5th, 2011 at 9:14 am
To be fair, Steve Smith has had no QB the last 3 years.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Key to an offensive line, IMO, is continuity.
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Agreed with JFB
starters Veldheer, Loper, Wiz, Campbell & Barksdale with no training camp = bad news!
May 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Steve Smith has had no QB the last 3 years
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Jake Delhomme started 16 games, threw for 3,288 yards & 15 TD’s in 2008 – plus 2 rushing TD’s and a QB Rating of 85
compare that to the Oakland Raiders QB’s of the past 3 seasons!
Russell, Gradkowski, Campbell, Frye, Boller (puke)
May 5th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Veldheer, Loper, Satele, Carlisle, Campbell = worse news.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:22 am
RR but Campbell can throw better than all three of those other guys. Plus, he will rifle one out to Steve Smith and he will go get it.
Did you see what Campbell was able to do with Ford?
May 5th, 2011 at 9:24 am
119.YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Veldheer, Loper, Satele, Carlisle, Campbell = worse news.
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Yeah! I am really worried about our o-line and corners if Nnamdi and Huff are gone at one time. Not much veteran talent left. Johnson, gets hurt often and rookies at corners are not to cool in a man to man defense.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:25 am
I think we need 2 more veterans for our o-line. Another guard and a tackle.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Jake Delhomme, circa 2008, et al….Matt Moore….Jimmy Clausen….
I will put that puke up against any and all Jason Campbell the last 3 years.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:28 am
wtf i need playstation network back damnit im sooooooo bored. i hate hackers
May 5th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Trouble is the market for experienced FA O-linemen is extremely thin.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Eric_TurnerR.I.P.-
I think this is the link you were talking about….
http://www.csnbayarea.com/05/27/10/1-on-1-with-Raiders-CB-Nnamdi-Asomugha/landing.html?blockID=242159
And I agree with you. Everyone’s talking like Nnamdi is gone already. If he WANTS to be here I believe that he and Al Davis will work out a deal that will still make him one of the top paid corners in the league.
Especially if we do what we should do, and release Darius Heyward Bey…
May 5th, 2011 at 9:31 am
DHB like Sanjay are both on scholarship
May 5th, 2011 at 9:38 am
I felt nervous about our opening day offensive line last year against the Titans, and they were worse than I feared.
Unless some serious questions are answered, and we get some guys resigned, I feel a lot more nervous about our eventual opening day OL this season.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:43 am
looak at it this way cant be any worse than last year
May 5th, 2011 at 9:43 am
That Barry Sims guy is a free agent! (Always felt bad for the guy, he was always was better than the puds we brought in…)
May 5th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Trade DMAC for dkhwriw4 be7itw34 437t234 ui2 ug8w t f4vf!
May 5th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:41 am
DHB is just in over his head as an NFL WR.
The game and catching the ball does not seem to come easy to him at all.
The talents seem to be there, the instincts……not so much.
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I think it’s fair to say that any profession you can think of, if you lack instincts, you don’t have enough talent and you can never fully develop. You either have instincts or you don’t.
Instincts are a part of talent. Talent evaluators are supposed to see these things. With DHB, they got caught up in the measurables and disregarded the production. Bad mistake.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:52 am
DHB takes a pay cut end of story
May 5th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Guest, you only felt nervous about the offensive line against the Titans? I think by half time of that game it was well determined that you should have been worried about the entire team.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:57 am
As a fan, doesn’t matter to me if he takes a pay cut. It’s not my money. I just want to see a real NFL receiver putting up consistent stats and producing on the field. Not another botched pass on the hands and collective groans from the crowd. I think we’re all tired of that.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Condo takes a pay cut end of story
May 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Guest, you only felt nervous about the offensive line against the Titans? I think by half time of that game it was well determined that you should have been worried about the entire team.
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Yes, but the OL in particular laid down like dogs and let JC get hammered. The DL also got destroyed as I remember that game. RoMac got blown up on that long TD run. Lots of bad play and it was contagious. It was like everyone showed up hung over or something. And I blame Cable for that too.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Morning peoples!
May 5th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Seahawks GM John Schneider plans to pursue a starting left guard in free agency.
Seattle has four spots filled: LT Russell Okung, C Max Unger, RG John Moffitt, RT James Carpenter. Our best guess as to Seattle’s next starting left guard is free agent Robert Gallery, with whom new position coach Tom Cable has plenty of history. Gallery is injury prone and probably only has 2-3 decent years left, however, so two pickups at the position could make sense.
Related: Seahawks
Source: ESPN.com
May 5th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Not sure if you were agreeing or disagreeing there Guest123, but yes either you have instincts or you don’t.
However, lots of guys with measurables and talent and upside, who never reach it, due to just not being able to let it rip during the game because of their lack of natural instincts.
DHB seems like he is reciting a how-to in his head during the game. Clearly the guy is thinking and not playing, and playing almost to not screw up sometimes, which is the worst.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Guest, the entire Raider way laid down against the Titans last year, as they do most games anymore.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Bo u just wont let the dmac thing go even after having a good year
May 5th, 2011 at 10:09 am
CJ…..we need two vet guards to play in between our youngsters
May 5th, 2011 at 10:13 am
DMAC had a good year but like Jerry pointed out in chat unless he is healthy for a whole season, he is still not living up to his potential or value.
Every year the guy is injured and misses games this is not a good sign for a RB that you are paying top dollar for.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Yes DMAC had a good year. His trade value will never be higher.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:14 am
It doesn’t look like there are two starting-caliber OGs on the free agent market.
Best we can hope for is that Al brings in one veteran OG and leaves the other OG spot open to competition between Campbell and Loper.
Veldheer – Campbell/Loper – Wiz 2.0 – Dahl – Barksdale
Jammal Brown, Tyson Clabo, Reggie Wells, and Nick Kaczur may also be options as free agent RTs.
Byron Bell, David Mims, and Zach Hurd will be options as UDFAs.
Outside of those guys? There won’t be much available for the Raiders.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Oh yea….I didnt think the Mavs would be handling the Lake Show but boy am I glad they are! Two home losses and heading back to Dallas? Trouble for the champs. Broom is possible. Out with the old teams in with the new. Boston, SA AND LA are cooked……….OKC VS MIA the finals
May 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Bo…..dmac will not be traded at all so give it a rest. Now condo is a different story lol
May 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am
My bad, Reggie Wells would be another option at OG, not RT.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Fk what punk ass jerry points out. He is a born and raised 49er fan
May 5th, 2011 at 10:20 am
The Raiders can borrow Green Bay’s offensive line, they’ll still lose.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Green Bay’s offensive line could come to the Raiders right now. They’d gain weight. They’d be sucking wind in the 4th quarter. They’d have losing attitudes.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:21 am
YA…..id love to have Wells at RG……also Logan Mankins is gonna be available but we gotta chip him out. Hey he is worth more than nnamdi and Huff combined. Haviing a LG like him changes the oline
May 5th, 2011 at 10:23 am
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May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Logan Mankins got franchised. Not sure what it would take to get him to Oakland, but the Raiders don’t have much in the way of ammunition for a trade.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Lol MR you cant fool us even if you change screen names
May 5th, 2011 at 10:24 am
The Raiders can borrow Green Bay’s offensive line, they’ll still lose.
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You do realize A. Rogers has been getting the crap knocked out of him the last few years. Not saying the line is not “good,” but they are not great.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:26 am
YA…….its Al he will go get who he wants
May 5th, 2011 at 10:27 am
I wonder if Al will give MM a shot at starting at either safety positions? I think he deserves a fair shot at it.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:28 am
@YoungAmerican
How about Matt Light?
May 5th, 2011 at 10:29 am
“Fk what punk ass jerry points out. He is a born and raised 49er fan”
So somehow that going to taint his ability to evaluate a Running backs performance?
So Bill Walsh was not a genius because he was a 49er coach?
Please explain your logic?
May 5th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Would have liked Matt Light more if the ZBS was still around. I’m sure he’d be a good enough veteran addition, but I’m not sure where he’d fit.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:31 am
I’ll take 14 out of 16 starts a season w/ DMAC.
Stop w/ the hating already.
DMAC’s a stud!
GET OVER IT!
May 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Point being…the best offensive line in the league, whoever they are, could come to the Raiders, and they would suck. They would gain weight, they’d become slower, they’d be sucking wind in the 4th quarter of games, they wouldn’t practice hard, they would develop losing mentalities.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Trade back into round 2 for Terrelle Pryor next year
May 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Grab Colledge for the packers, i think he is a free agent even under the 2010 rules. Could be a nice addition on the OL
May 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
DMAC was 12th in the league in rushing yards last year.
Please explain how that is a STUD?
May 5th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Pryor will never be any better than Troy Smith. OSU has never produced a pro QB. Must be the Art Schlichter curse.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
which is the worst.
140.Gust372 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Guest, the entire Raider way laid down against the Titans last year, as they do most games anymore.
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I think what you’re trying to say in your broken english is that in most games during 2010 the Raiders “laid down”.
Allow me to retort. In the 8 games they won in 2010, the Raiders won by an AVERAGE of 18 points. Multiple blowout victories does not equal “laying down”.
But I guess you can’t be faulted for that- we all know you stop paying attention when the Raiders start winning, Negative Nancy.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
chaz schilens….had a couple of great games receiving then got injured is he also a STUD?
May 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Andrew Luck, Landry Jones, Case Keenum, Robert Griffin, Brandon Weeden, Ryan Lindley, Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, and Ryan Tanneyhill are among the QBs who will be available in the 2012 draft.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am
# guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Moore’s not a good route runner. Good hands, avg athletisism, decent speed.
He’s raw. Needs coaching to stay at the next level.
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Jerricho Cotchery was raw, Louis Murphy was raw and so was Steelers’ Mike Wallace.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:45 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:42 am
chaz schilens….had a couple of great games receiving then got injured is he also a STUD?
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Compared to DHB..Hell Yeah!
May 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
RaiderSam
Now thats funny!!
May 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Compared to DHB, even Jon Condo is a stud…
May 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
# RAIDER Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Green Bay’s offensive line could come to the Raiders right now. They’d gain weight. They’d be sucking wind in the 4th quarter. They’d have losing attitudes.
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tell that to the Chargers…they got wore down in San Diego…i was at that game. And in the 2009 home opener on MNF, they were wearing em down then, too. Ask Denver if they have a losing attitude. I think the only two teams that took it to our line were the Steelers and Texans (and we had to abandon the run to pass in order to catch up that game)
May 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am
RAIDER is trolling. Don’t feed the troll.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
DMAC was 12th in the league in rushing yards last year.
Please explain how that is a STUD?
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Because I said so.
You have your opinion and I have mines.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:51 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:22 am
I just don’t see Steve Smith as a veteran mentor type, but I could be wrong.
This is the guy that tried to knock out one of his teammates in training camp a couple years back.
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Yeah, i dont think he’s coming here..maybe San Diego, and they still have to sign Malcolm Floyd..he’d be a good pick up after he’s cut.
May 5th, 2011 at 10:55 am
# DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:40 am
DMAC was 12th in the league in rushing yards last year.
Please explain how that is a STUD?
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Because I said so.
You have your opinion and I have mines.
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How many games did DMAC play last year? Now, how many TDs did he get? How many multiple TD games did he have?
THANK YOU
May 5th, 2011 at 10:59 am
# guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Jake Delhomme, circa 2008, et al….Matt Moore….Jimmy Clausen….
I will put that puke up against any and all Jason Campbell the last 3 years.
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yeah, because Delhomme, Moore and Clausen swept the AFC West
FAIL.
Delhomme is a turnover machine. Moore was beaten out by Clausen, and Clausen beat out himself.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
So funny how some people are ready to Crown someone without them accomplishing what they need to to be Crowned.
People in here saying Hue Jackson is the second coming of Vince Lombardi when he has not won a single game as an NFL head coach.
People in here claiming Cam Newton is the next Mike Vick when he has not played a single down in the NFL.
People in here saying DMAC is a stud when he is injured every year.
lets remember that he was a top 4 pick and was expected to be our Adrian Petersen. So far her has not lived up to his expectations.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
I am a half full v. full half empty kinda guy.
I thought what was inspiring that the “Source” said that Steve Smith was “hoping” to get traded to the Chargers or Raiders.
A oncer very decent (dare I say good-great) player who has options hoping to get traded to the Raiders? For a while it seemed like “sentence” or “punishment” for guys to get traded to the Raiders. Maybe things are changing?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am
RaiderSam
Now thats funny!!
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almost as funny as 666 and your football knowledge.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Still would like to see a veteran presence brought in on the right side, as I’m not sold on Campbell at all, and the rookies could indeed use some help. But we’ll see what happens when and if free agency starts.
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Im not sold, either. But whom and how much? Mankins? Harvey Dahl? Go on the cheap for Jason Spitz from the Pack?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
People in here saying DMAC is a stud when he is injured every year.
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And RBs are supposed to be ready to play when they get to the league… by the time DMAC “matures” he’ll be a FA. Trade the menace.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:06 am
mcfadden was an offensive mvp candidate last year, why you hating on him?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Can’t believe all this hate for our best offensive weapon on this team. First, DMAC was the wrong pick. Then he was a bust because he had skinny legs and couldn’t run between the tackles. Later they said he was no good because he couldn’t secure the ball. They also said he wasn’t physical enough, and now they say he’s injured prone.
check
check
check
check
I think enough is enough. Time to give credit, where credit is deserved.
Clearly DMAC is our best weapon on offense. And if not would love to hear who is?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:10 am
“How many games did DMAC play last year? Now, how many TDs did he get? How many multiple TD games did he have?
THANK YOU”
He played in 13 games had 7 rushing TD’s and 4 fumbles and had two games with multiple TD’s
Arian foster played in 16 games had 16 TD’s and 2 fumbles and had 6 multiple TD games.
He is also paid a lot less than DMAC
May 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am
+
He would have twice as many TD’s if dumb azz Cable, wouldn’t have pull him out every red zone position, only to give the rock to Bush.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
McFadden is a helluva weapon. His injuries have been minor.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
+
Home run threat every time he touches the rock.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:14 am
+
Great reciever
May 5th, 2011 at 11:14 am
You don’t have the #2 Rushing Team in the NFL without a stud lead back.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
+
Can pick-up the blitz and demolish them
May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Its not hate its facts just read them and move on.
I do not hate any Raider I just have higher expectations for McFadden than you do apparently.
RaiderSam I am not claiming to be a football genius just pointing out the obvious, no need to lose your temper over words on a computer screen little guy?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
+
Does it all w/out a true blocking FB
May 5th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Sorry 666
but I think its hate
May 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Its cool though. Like I said you have your opinion and I have mine. Its all good.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Its not hate its facts just read them and move on.
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Exactly 4.6 ypc, career.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
+
Ceiling = Harvey Williams, if healthy (fat chance there too)
May 5th, 2011 at 11:19 am
One last time DMAC is a great player and has the potential to be a top 5 RB in this league which is why Al Davis drafted him so high.
Unfortunately a RB has to be reliable and is expected to play every game and until he does that there is no reason to CROWN him king of all NFL backs.
Why is that so hard for you to see?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
BSJ
McFadden is a top 5 RB in the league and was the main reason that we were #2 in rushing. The Jax game showed what kind of heart he has as he made play after play only to be let down by our defense
May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Question for all the DMAC haters?
Who’s our best offensive weapon?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
His first year since sitting behind Justin Fargas
89 ypg, 5.2 ypc.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
So since I expect more out of our #4 pick than you do, you claim that I hate him.
So do you hate Huff for not being better than he was expected to be do you also hate DHB, or do you hope that DHB can get it together and eventually be a STUD?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Now Fargas is the reason DMAC sucked? Did Fargas make him fumble and hurt his FEET?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
He runs very hard, his injuries have been minor, no knee injuries.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
666
Never said he has the crown, just said he was a stud.So if AP would miss 2-3 games yearly. He wouldn’t be considered an elite back?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Our best offensive weapon is Jano, lol
May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am
+
Home run threat every time he touches the rock.
ex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iNKB55IDzk
May 5th, 2011 at 11:23 am
DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:14 am
+
Great reciever
ex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzpvV_5YChs&feature=related
May 5th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Now Fargas is the reason DMAC sucked?
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He NEVER sucked, and yes, Fargas limited his opportunities.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Did think Huff was garbage, up until last year. He had a hella of season. I think DHB is garbage, but hope he gets it together as well.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:25 am
I’ll be back peoples.
Thanx for clips Severe.
Can you find one picking up a blitz too?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
“McFadden is a top 5 RB in the league”
Check the stats there guy he was #12 in rushing yards last year how is that top 5?
When there are 11 guys in the league that rushed for more yards than him, how is it possible to be a top 5 back.
Please explain.
By the way i would love nothing more than for him to lead the league in rushing next year and earn his fat paycheck.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Yes DMAC sucked. Until last year he was around 3.5 ypc with 3x the fumbles of the other RBs. For a 4th pick? Major suckage, sry.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Campbell can throw better than all three of those other guys
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CJ Legend,
we should go get Steve Smith because JCamp is better than Russell, Gradkowski & Boller?
So What?
That’s like saying we should go get Chad OchoCinco because JaMarcus Russell is better than Tui, Jeff Otis & Josh Booty!
makes no sense bro. sorry
May 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
The only opportunities Fargas “limited” for DMAC were opportunities to hurt his toes or fumble.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am
McFadden had 3 fumbles all year, hardly historic.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
starters Veldheer, Loper, Wiz, Campbell & Barksdale with no training camp = bad news!
Veldheer, Loper, Satele, Carlisle, Campbell = worse news
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YA,
you assume that having 2 rookies in the lineup is better than Satele & Carlisle?
I strongly disagree.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Check previous seasons. McFelldown was a bust until 2010.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am
McFadden was 20th in the NFL in fumbling among RB’s.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
“McFadden is a top 5 RB in the league”
Check the stats there guy he was #12 in rushing yards last year how is that top 5?
When there are 11 guys in the league that rushed for more yards than him, how is it possible to be a top 5 back.
Please explain.
By the way i would love nothing more than for him to lead the league in rushing next year and earn his fat paycheck.
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Lol you sound slow. Foster led the league in rushing does that mean he is the best back? No. Is Peyton Hillis, #11, better than Darren? No. Adrian Peterson is only the 6th best back in the league? No.
Darren Mcfadden was fourth in yards per game, with the Pitt and Mia games acting as outliers and severely dropping his avergae. He was also 4th among RB’s in ypc. Hmmmm top 5 in both categories.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Check previous seasons. McFelldown was a bust until 2010.
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Not hardly.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Jake Delhomme, circa 2008, et al….Matt Moore….Jimmy Clausen….
I will put that puke up against any and all Jason Campbell the last 3 years.
***
thats including Jake Delhomme in Cleveland with no WR’s and Eric Mangini as Head Coach
plus Jason Campbell in Washington with Samuels, Jansen, Portis, Moss, Cooley, etc
what does EITHER have to do with Steve Smith?
Delhomme isn’t the same player with a different supporting cast. Neither is Jason Campbell. Steve Smith won’t be either. Look what Randy Moss gave Oakland compared to Minnesota before us and New England after us!
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Question for all the DMAC haters?
Who’s our best offensive weapon?
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Ford!
Not hatin on Dmac…either!
May 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Oh yea….I didnt think the Mavs would be handling the Lake Show but boy am I glad they are! Two home losses and heading back to Dallas? Trouble for the champs. Broom is possible. Out with the old teams in with the new. Boston, SA AND LA are cooked……….OKC VS MIA the finals
***
BAUCE !!!
Co-signed…
May 5th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Mcfadden was picked by analysts around the league as one of the Top 100 players in the league last season.
Out of 1696 players in the NFL.
For all you Mcfadden haters, your little opinion is currently being laughed at around the league…
May 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
“Lol you sound slow.”
Because I can actually read I am slow….wondering what that makes you besides illiterate?
” Foster led the league in rushing does that mean he is the best back?”
Yeah, that is pretty much what that means there little guy. Last year Foster was the best RB.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:44 am
R8eray Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Question for all the DMAC haters?
Who’s our best offensive weapon?
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Ford!
Not hatin on Dmac…either!
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The hardest i’ve laughed in a while…thanx
May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
For all you Mcfadden haters, your little opinion is currently being laughed at around the league
***
ArmChair GM,
Jerry Mac blog clowns are not known “around the league”
they probably aren’t even known around their neighborhoods … Print That
May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Check previous seasons. McFelldown was a bust until 2010.
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2nd game of DMAC’s NFL career, he rushed for 164 yds against KC.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
“Mcfadden was picked by analysts around the league as one of the Top 100 players in the league last season.”
And how many RB’s are ahead of him on that list Eisenstein?
By the way we don’t hate Mcfadden we just expect 16 games a year from him.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
sup nation
May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
ArmChair GM,
Jerry Mac blog clowns are not known “around the league”
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Ah, but Al Davis & Raider fans ARE known as clowns around the league.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Matt Cassel says he spent four hours with new offensive coordinator Bill Muir and new quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn on Friday during the brief time when the lockout was lifted, and that he’s now passing along that coaching with a few teammates at a time
“I’ll usually put together a small group of guys and go out on the field to do some things,” Cassel said. “Right now, it’s a little awkward because not everybody’s in town. So what I’m going to try to do is to get people to come back to town and get us really in the full swing of things and have everybody working out here. We’re going to try to get a larger group of guys. We’ve had guys who have flown in, and they’ve stayed with me for a few days and we’ve gone out and done some field work and some throwing. That’s been good for us to get that one-on-one time.”
And with Cassel’s offer of a place to stay, that one-on-one time extends beyond the practice field.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Al Davis & Raider fans ARE known as clowns around the league
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Kell,
last Jerry Mac post you said “I come here because I’m passionate about the Raiders”
true or false?
Doesn’t that make you a fan ???
May 5th, 2011 at 11:55 am
where are all the Laker fans at today?
I haven’t seen Hwnrdr, Dakota, Exla, BSJ or Jhill brag about taking the next 4 games after an 0-2 start against the Mavs!
what gives?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Kell,
last Jerry Mac post you said “I come here because I’m passionate about the Raiders”
true or false?
Doesn’t that make you a fan ???
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You live in Podunk, does that make you an ignorant redneck? probably.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
FOR THE LAST TIME!!!
I am not saying Mcfadden sucks or is not a great back nor do I hate him.
I just want to see him follow up his great play last season by playing in all 16 games in 2011.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I’m predicting a Mavs vs Heat finals.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:58 am
snb i wouldnt want mcskinny to go 16 games we have plenty of backs to fill the void.esp.if theres a chance we make the playoffs que jim mora
May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
FOR THE LAST TIME!!!
I am not saying Mcfadden sucks or is not a great back nor do I hate him.
I just want to see him follow up his great play last season by playing in all 16 games in 2011.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
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Nice back pedal, you got a little high in your stance though lol
May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Kell,
let’s stick to the topic at hand, ok?
If you’re a Raider fan, you just called yourself a clown.
If you’re not, then you’re a big fat liar due to what you posted yesterday.
Which is it ???
May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 am
why the hell isnt jerry doing his job thats 243 post now ! WAKE UP JERRY
May 5th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
i wouldnt want mcskinny to go 16 games
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Raider hater?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
im a clown for being a raider fan thats for sure.no playoffs in what 8 yrs wtf
May 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
RR, I’m right here…BIG DOGG!!!
It’s all good…I’m used to this. Did you forget…I’m a Raider Fan?
LOL!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
i wouldnt want mcskinny to go 16 games
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Raider hater?
______________________________________________
y didnt u post the rest of what i said douche
May 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
why the hell isnt jerry doing his job
***
his “job” is to report all the latest Raider happenings
If he hasn’t posted anything since 3:30 PST yesterday thats probably because nothing has happened since then!
Get off his back or get off his blog, whiner.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
i wouldnt want mcskinny to go 16 games we have plenty of backs to fill the void.esp.if theres a chance we make the playoffs que jim mora
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in case u missed the rest
May 5th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
im a clown for being a raider fan thats for sure.no playoffs in what 8 yrs wtf
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7 winning seasons in 23 years, but, whayadda gonna do?
I know what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna ride Al Davis’ arse outta here.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
u ever heard of a joke?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
kk al is wayyyyyy past his expiration date.wont be long
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
I’m right here…BIG DOGG!!!
It’s all good…I’m used to this. Did you forget…I’m a Raider Fan?
***
LOL @ ray!
I forgot you were a Laker fan. Sorry bro
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Skinny, I guess you haven’t been here for a while!
I’ve seen posts hit the “K” mark several times!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Severeraiderz
You really cant read can you?
Did you go to school or attempt reading a book at one point in your life?
Communicating logic and common sense in a Raider blog then seeing the response is like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Jake Delhomme, circa 2008, et al….Matt Moore….Jimmy Clausen….
I will put that puke up against any and all Jason Campbell the last 3 years.
***
thats including Jake Delhomme in Cleveland with no WR’s and Eric Mangini as Head Coach
plus Jason Campbell in Washington with Samuels, Jansen, Portis, Moss, Cooley, etc
what does EITHER have to do with Steve Smith?
Delhomme isn’t the same player with a different supporting cast. Neither is Jason Campbell. Steve Smith won’t be either. Look what Randy Moss gave Oakland compared to Minnesota before us and New England after us!
#################
Raider Rockstar….that’s brilliant logic. I think…
Your argument can be argued from either side of the podium. Lot of hand waving in that explanation.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
if i dont get psn soon im gonna lose my mind.lets go sony step ur game up or im getting an xbox
May 5th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
256.r8eray Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Skinny, I guess you haven’t been here for a while!
I’ve seen posts hit the “K” mark several times!
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if that happens and the psn is still down theres no telling what im gonna do
May 5th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
skinny,
DMAC gives us the best chance to win football games.
If you don’t want him to stay healthy, you must not want to win.
You wishing the same for Jason Campbell & Zach Miller?
that way we can see guys like Boller & Myers in the game, right?
Unreal.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob
_____________________________________________________
u outside my window?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Severeraiderz
You really cant read can you?
Did you go to school or attempt reading a book at one point in your life?
Communicating logic and common sense in a Raider blog then seeing the response is like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob.
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Awww getting personal, are we….did i hurt someones feelings???
May 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
256.r8eray Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Skinny, I guess you haven’t been here for a while!
I’ve seen posts hit the “K” mark several times!
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if that happens and the psn is still down theres no telling what im gonna do
—————–
I hear you…need my Madden fix!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
if i dont get psn soon im gonna lose my mind.lets go sony step ur game up or im getting an xbox
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I hear its gonna be down until the 9th or the 10th
May 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
rockstar were not on the same page.i would never want my favorite player to get injured.im just saying i wish we could be in position to rest mcfadden b/c were going to the playoffs
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
well guys id say add me on the psn but we cant do ish
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
i would never want my favorite player to get injured.im just saying i wish we could be in position to rest mcfadden b/c were going to the playoffs
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Gotcha!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
mcfadden is a beast in madden
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
time to punch the clock and get back to work
later gents
May 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
McFadden has an injury history, it’s true. But not one that’s unusual in the NFL. These days, complimentary backs are all the rage- just look at how undervalued RBs were in the draft this year. Injurys are a big reason why running by platoon is the way to go these days.
And you know what? The Raiders have some great backs to compliment DMAC. Finding time Bush and Jones to carry the rock will extend the careers of all three.
Best RB corps in the league. Worry about something else.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
160.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 10:29 am
“Fk what punk ass jerry points out. He is a born and raised 49er fan”
So somehow that going to taint his ability to evaluate a Running backs performance?
So Bill Walsh was not a genius because he was a 49er coach?
Please explain your logic?
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Please Jerry is a scared 49er b_stard knowing the Raider offense is getting closer to having a dybamic offense. Offense sells the tickets and DMAC is gonna make even more plays this season. A power blocking scheme is way better for his and Bush’s skill set
And Al Davis is Bill Walsh’s daddy
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
mcfadden is a beast in madden
^^^^^^^
Reggie Bush is even better in madden.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
who here thinks theres a chance we keep nmandi awsemowoooo cant spell that
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
“McFadden is a top 5 RB in the league”
Check the stats there guy he was #12 in rushing yards last year how is that top 5?
When there are 11 guys in the league that rushed for more yards than him, how is it possible to be a top 5 back.
Please explain.
By the way i would love nothing more than for him to lead the league in rushing next year and earn his fat paycheck.
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Way to show your support for the guy. You dont want him to have a consecutive successful season to quiet the critics, or to lead the Raiders to a playoff berth….you want him to be successful to make sure that he is earning every penny of that signing bonus and annual salary. Got you.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Severerlyretardedraiderz
Yeah my feelings are hurt because your opinion means so much to me.
I base my life on this BLOG and the comments you make because, you sir, are the highest of Raider Blog authority!
Will you please forgive me for not being one of your sycophantic chat buddies….PLEASE!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
241.DMAC Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I’m predicting a Mavs vs Heat finals.
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Interesting I had that thought of Dirk’s revenge against Miami. He is playing well. Just dont think anyone can deal with Kevin Durant in a 7 game series. He is averaging 30 at the least against any team
May 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
hey easy with the big words im trying to read here
May 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
who here thinks theres a chance we keep nmandi awsemowoooo cant spell that
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Asomugha is as good as gone, Texans or Eagles IMO. I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Cromartie. Ronde Barber had nothing but great things to say about Talib’s talent and abilities in the NFL. With Rod Woodson here i wouldn’t mind taking on a troubled CB and putting them under his wing.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I don’t give a rats azz what big Al wants to pay his players. Not my money. I just care that they win. Position by position they are defeating the dude accross from them. I’ll leave the money to Al.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
275.severeraiderz Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:26 am
“McFadden is a top 5 RB in the league”
Check the stats there guy he was #12 in rushing yards last year how is that top 5?
When there are 11 guys in the league that rushed for more yards than him, how is it possible to be a top 5 back.
Please explain.
By the way i would love nothing more than for him to lead the league in rushing next year and earn his fat paycheck.
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Way to show your support for the guy. You dont want him to have a consecutive successful season to quiet the critics, or to lead the Raiders to a playoff berth….you want him to be successful to make sure that he is earning every penny of that signing bonus and annual salary. Got you.
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666 is my boy and has been for years but he will just be a critical guy at times. Hey I do the same thing on some guys. But I highly doubt 666 wants DMAC to stink it up in 2011.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
280.guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I don’t give a rats azz what big Al wants to pay his players. Not my money. I just care that they win. Position by position they are defeating the dude accross from them. I’ll leave the money to Al.
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Agreed
May 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
“you want him to be successful to make sure that he is earning every penny of that signing bonus and annual salary”
No way little guy I (just like you) want Al Davis to continue overpaying people because after all its not our money.
You should be our next GM your smart and can read well and a great at player evaluation. did you send in your resume to Ad yet?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
271.Davy Jones Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
McFadden has an injury history, it’s true. But not one that’s unusual in the NFL. These days, complimentary backs are all the rage- just look at how undervalued RBs were in the draft this year. Injurys are a big reason why running by platoon is the way to go these days.
And you know what? The Raiders have some great backs to compliment DMAC. Finding time Bush and Jones to carry the rock will extend the careers of all three.
Best RB corps in the league. Worry about something else.
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Totally with ya on this bruh. Going to a power scheme and having 3 backs that perfectly complimnet each other makes this offense very dangerous….grant we get a number 1 wr…..Chad?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Severerlyretardedraiderz
Yeah my feelings are hurt because your opinion means so much to me.
I base my life on this BLOG and the comments you make because, you sir, are the highest of Raider Blog authority!
Will you please forgive me for not being one of your sycophantic chat buddies….PLEASE!!!!
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Apology accepted and your are forgiven. You may continue blogging as normal now, you have my permission.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
F_uck it! Go Sharks! (don’t watch hockey)
May 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Asomugha is as good as gone, Texans or Eagles IMO. I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Cromartie. Ronde Barber had nothing but great things to say about Talib’s talent and abilities in the NFL. With Rod Woodson here i wouldn’t mind taking on a troubled CB and putting them under his wing.
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Talib isn’t going anywhere. Notice Tampa didn’t draft any CB’s. And they were in position to Jimmy Smith and passed. And Al isn’t taking on any more headcase short-fuse rejects anymore.
I think Rod Woodson is going to be a big boost to our DB’s. I hope he can develop our young DB’s and figure out how to turn them into a group on the same page. A lot of times last year, that wasn’t the case.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
mcfadden is a beast in madden
^^^^^^^
Reggie Bush is even better in madden.
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I almost choked on my vomit!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
But still we need a real starting LG and RG. I cant have Bruce Campbell or Ben Loper be there. That is unacceptable. Also need an extra DE,young NT and WLB
I like our potential for the upcoming season but we need some upgrades seriously if we wanna make a run
May 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I don’t give a rats azz what big Al wants to pay his players. Not my money. I just care that they win.
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You can’t have one without the other.
Al doesn’t have as large as pockets as other teams. Stupid contracts like Jamarucs’, Javon’s, Deangelo and plenty others, are the number one reason we haven’t been winning.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Reggie Bush is even better in madden.
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I almost choked on my vomit!
lol me 2
May 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I will be at the games next year rooting for DMAC, DHB and Campbell because when the whistle blows and its game time whoever is wearing Silver and Black is on our team and deserves fan support.
This Blog is a fun place to complain about things but the reality is we do not have any control or say so about who or who is not on the roster.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
im goin to do that you heard it here first thing
falcons nfc champs
May 5th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
raiders afc champs
hahahahahahahahahahaha lol omg my stomach hurts
May 5th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
i was serious about atlanta though matt ryan is a beast
May 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
“you want him to be successful to make sure that he is earning every penny of that signing bonus and annual salary”
No way little guy I (just like you) want Al Davis to continue overpaying people because after all its not our money.
You should be our next GM your smart and can read well and a great at player evaluation. did you send in your resume to Ad yet?
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How is he overpaying one of the best players on our team, offense or defense???
If i was GM Megatron would have been the 1st pick in 2007, Mcfadden in ‘08, Oher in ‘09, and Romac in ‘10
May 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
whos gonna slap john henderson now that tom cables gone
May 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“Apology accepted and your are forgiven. You may continue blogging as normal now, you have my permission.”
Thank you so much I was about to have a nervous breakdown….can I have my blanket and teddy bear back now?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
guest123 Says:
You can’t have one without the other.
Al doesn’t have as large as pockets as other teams. Stupid contracts like Jamarucs’, Javon’s, Deangelo and plenty others, are the number one reason we haven’t been winning.
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Of course, we all know nobody conducts the perfect draft, or perfect free agency. There are good decisions and bad ones. I like to take the system and evaluate it as a whole rather than cherry pick examples of good and bad contracts. I am sure that you will find similar bad moves even on teams like the Patriots and Steelers. But the media makes Al Davis’ failures out to be more than they really are.
Has he made some bad decisions? Sure, and I am not an Al Davis apologist. I just think that take a look at the positives as well as the negatives. We’d love for Al to be perfect. But he isn’t.
We are coming out of a very rough period post-Gruden where we kind of lost our identity. And we are getting it back. Thankfully with high character people who want to work at being good players.
So if you want to point to Jamarcus, deangelo, javon, etc., you are pointing at some decisions we have already recovered from. Bad decisions and bad contracts are in the rear view mirror.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I will be at the games next year rooting for DMAC, DHB and Campbell because when the whistle blows and its game time whoever is wearing Silver and Black is on our team and deserves fan support.
This Blog is a fun place to complain about things but the reality is we do not have any control or say so about who or who is not on the roster.
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I’m just messing with you dog, you actually called me out first lol. I know u bleed silver blood out of your black veins
May 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
whos gonna slap john henderson now that tom cables gone
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Tom Cable was a little too touchy feely. I am sure that turned off a lot of homophobic guys.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Mcskinnnylegs Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
whos gonna slap john henderson now that tom cables gone
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The hooker, maybe?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Ah one of my favorite B movie side men. Cowboy “Slim Pickings”
May 5th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
McFadden isn’t overpaid. If he plays like he did in 2010 and misses two MORE games, he STILL isn’t overpaid.
Jeez, I know it’s been a while since the Raiders had one, but it seems like people around here can’t recognize a blue chip when they see it.
2nd TYPG and did it in two games less and 100 less attempts than Foster, 1st in runs of 40+ and 20+ yards.
If he’d scored more TDs, I’d say he did BETTER than Foster; and if Bush weren’t around, he would have.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
“If i was GM Megatron would have been the 1st pick in 2007, Mcfadden in ‘08, Oher in ‘09, and Romac in ‘10″
If I was GM I would have been roasted on Big Al’s overhead projector for the many sexual harassment lawsuits he faces initiated by the cheerleaders….or was it that fuzzy mascot I tried humping?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Guest123,
All that is nice, but that was not the topic.
Point being, you said you don’t carry about salaries because it isn’t your money, as if us that do care about salaries are stupid to do so since it isn’t our money.
I don’t care if Michael Bush the person makes $10 million or $10 dollars next year. But I do care if Al Davis drastically overpays for our backup RB, and thus can’t go out and get us a decent RT because of cost issues, and that ultimately lends a hand to me being pissed off more often than not around 5pm on Sundays.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
@Guest123
So if you want to point to Jamarcus, deangelo, javon, etc., you are pointing at some decisions we have already recovered from. Bad decisions and bad contracts are in the rear view mirror.
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7 winning seasons since the advent of Free Agency 23 years ago. So, it’s more than Jamarcus, DeAngelo, Javon, or Gruden withdrawal, ok?
May 5th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
“Apology accepted and your are forgiven. You may continue blogging as normal now, you have my permission.”
Thank you so much I was about to have a nervous breakdown….can I have my blanket and teddy bear back now?
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LMFAO!
Don’t even know what the conversation is about…but that ish is funny!
May 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
“McFadden isn’t overpaid. If he plays like he did in 2010″
I think we can all agree on that.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Guest123,
All that is nice, but that was not the topic.
Point being, you said you don’t carry about salaries because it isn’t your money, as if us that do care about salaries are stupid to do so since it isn’t our money.
I don’t care if Michael Bush the person makes $10 million or $10 dollars next year. But I do care if Al Davis drastically overpays for our backup RB, and thus can’t go out and get us a decent RT because of cost issues, and that ultimately lends a hand to me being pissed off more often than not around 5pm on Sundays.
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I understand. This is what pisses me off about Stan Routt’s contract, and the others we have overpaid this offseason to let Aso go. Wouldn’t bother me what they paid these dudes, if not for the fact we lose Aso.
so that pisses me off.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Again, I am not against paying the player. If Al Davis wants to be the George Steinbrenner of the NFL, go for it! But don’t be daddy warbucks with some avg. talent and then screw over your studs, with conditional clauses that are unreachable. Unreachable, because you manipulate the coaching so you make Aso cover the X reciever no matter what scrub they send to that side.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Since 1989: 142 wins, 192 losses.
That’s more than a few bad draft decisions.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I think Al will be obliged to trade Mr. M. Bush since we drafted Mr. T. Jones.
Mr. D. McFadden is an every down back.
The 1st & 3rd tender sets the bar for any probable trade for Michael (or even Mr. Z. Miller for that matter).
Al wants both to return, but should another team pay as Zach Or Michael.
Raiders will take a first round draft pick for either one.
Potential for the Raiders to have three 1st round draft picks next year.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
No way Al gets a first rounder for either Miller or Bush. A 2nd rounder is the most he’d get for either one. So Al needs to lock them up or settle for tablescraps.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
iM SAY IT AGAIN ,SERVERAIDZ AND MCSKINNYLEGS,I JUST POSTED A COMMENT THAT I JUST SAW FROM CSNBAYAREA.COM ABOUT GREG PAPA DOING A INTERVIEW WITH NNAMDI ASOMUGHA AND NNAMDI SAID THAT HE WANTS TO END HIS CAREER WITH THE RAIDERS REGUARDLESS OF ANY TRADE RUMORS….AND THIS INTVERVIEW WAS FROM LAST YEAR!!!! AND IF U DONT BEILEVE ME GO FIND THE DAMN VIDEO AT CSNBAYAREA.COM…..NO I BEILEVE FROM THAT VIDEO NNAMDI ISNT LEAVING!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Since 1989: 142 wins, 192 losses.
That’s more than a few bad draft decisions.
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You know what’s changed in that time? Raider Pride. You used to say you were a Raider fan and wouldn’t get laguhed at. People wouldn’t subconsiously subtract 50 points off your IQ when you told them. Raider fandom came with the mystique. A mystique of champions. You belonged to a group of badazzes. Your team pushed other teams around and they feared the colors of silver and black. Now, the face of the franchise is a leprosy striken old man with crazy eyes. That’s what it has come to.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
The Raiders have won 42% of their games since Free Agency in 1989, 23 years ago.
I’ll tell you what’s in the rear view mirror. Al Davis.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Afternoon RR, KK, 666, Ray, JFB, Nn21, MR, NATION
May 5th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
@RaiderRetribution
Comp Picks Next year:
If Aso leaves-3rd Rounder
Huff Leaves-?
Gallery Leaves-?
May 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
If Taiwon Jones olays anything like DMC, Al should sign Bush to a long term deal, then trade DMC and maybe a pick to get a very good QB.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
And ppl need to laid of of mcfadden he is a beast and injuries are going to happen in the nfl,so get over that ……the man rushed for almost 1200 yards….what do u expect from the guy rush for 2100 yrds or something,,so stfu about mcfadden being a bust……He is the best rb that we have on this team!!!!!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Chances are that 1 of the 3 running backs will be injured at any given time…
Bush broke his thumb last year…
McFadden, has had a few injuries since we drafted him…
Knock on Jones is his history of injuries…
Seems like we need all three.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
It would nice to hear…
Nnamdi called members of the Raiders to hold practice in Napa High Sshool!
May 5th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
School
May 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
When have the Raiders ever had “cost issues”?
May 5th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Steve Smith has had no QB the last 3 years
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Jake Delhomme started 16 games, threw for 3,288 yards & 15 TD’s in 2008 – plus 2 rushing TD’s and a QB Rating of 85
compare that to the Oakland Raiders QB’s of the past 3 seasons!
Russell, Gradkowski, Campbell, Frye, Boller (puke)
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Name one receiver JR ever had here in the same universe as Steve Smith?
May 5th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
guest123 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Guest123,
All that is nice, but that was not the topic.
Point being, you said you don’t carry about salaries because it isn’t your money, as if us that do care about salaries are stupid to do so since it isn’t our money.
I don’t care if Michael Bush the person makes $10 million or $10 dollars next year. But I do care if Al Davis drastically overpays for our backup RB, and thus can’t go out and get us a decent RT because of cost issues, and that ultimately lends a hand to me being pissed off more often than not around 5pm on Sundays.
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I understand. This is what pisses me off about Stan Routt’s contract, and the others we have overpaid this offseason to let Aso go. Wouldn’t bother me what they paid these dudes, if not for the fact we lose Aso.
so that pisses me off.
Coulda paid nnamdi 15 mill paid wimbley 5 mill less not resig Routt and go with Johnson Mcfadden Ware DVD or Chekwa at the 2nd cb. Even if not bringing back Nnamdi don’t ridiculously overpay those two and spend the money on other positions of need like WR Oline or backup qb
May 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Damn Ray, spelling school wrong really leaves a lot of opportunity for some jokes.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Damn Ray, spelling school wrong really leaves a lot of opportunity for some jokes.
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LOL…I know, you just opened the flood gates!!
Snap!
May 5th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I just don’t get why everyone is freaking out so much about losing Nnamdi. What’s the big deal? The defense has sucked every year he’s been here. Is everyone upset because talking heads won’t say we have the top corner in football anymore? I’m anxious to see him someplace else and find out how good he really is. Let’s see if he can have a post-Raider career that comes close to Woodson’s. The team will be fine without him.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Steve Smith would be an awesome addition to the NATION.
The only reservation I would have is which of our young WR’s would take a production hit….
My Starting WR’s SSMITH, DMOORE, & JFORD
With solid doses of Shallens, and Lmurphy
DHB can come in on the occasional reverse…
May 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
@RaiderDebo
Not sure excactly how you see it (just curious) – Do you think that the departure of Nnamdi is a case of addition by subtraction, where starting another player on our roster will make the team better? Or do you mean that Nnamdi is not that good of a player, or differencemaker, for us why another player on our roster can take over without reducing the level of play noticeably?
May 5th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Coulda paid nnamdi 15 mill paid wimbley 5 mill less not resig Routt and go with Johnson Mcfadden Ware DVD or Chekwa at the 2nd cb. Even if not bringing back Nnamdi don’t ridiculously overpay those two and spend the money on other positions of need like WR Oline or backup qb
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dont forget DT depth to help stop the run…
29th in the league against the run and we draft a bunch of CB’s, and a WR that may not ever see the field….
May 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Steve Smith would be an awesome addition to the NATION.
The only reservation I would have is which of our young WR’s would take a production hit….
My Starting WR’s SSMITH, DMOORE, & JFORD
With solid doses of Shallens, and Lmurphy
DHB can come in on the occasional reverse…
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Now you have a chance at a good passing game.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
315.EricTurner_R.I.P. Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
iM SAY IT AGAIN ,SERVERAIDZ AND MCSKINNYLEGS,I JUST POSTED A COMMENT THAT I JUST SAW FROM CSNBAYAREA.COM ABOUT GREG PAPA DOING A INTERVIEW WITH NNAMDI ASOMUGHA AND NNAMDI SAID THAT HE WANTS TO END HIS CAREER WITH THE RAIDERS REGUARDLESS OF ANY TRADE RUMORS….AND THIS INTVERVIEW WAS FROM LAST YEAR!!!! AND IF U DONT BEILEVE ME GO FIND THE DAMN VIDEO AT CSNBAYAREA.COM…..NO I BEILEVE FROM THAT VIDEO NNAMDI ISNT LEAVING!!!!
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unfortunetley a lot can change in a year. Nnamdi is no fool, he says all the right things. I would love for Nnamdi to retire a Raider, I am just skeptical at this point.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
We will keep 7 WR’s
SSMITH*
JFORD
DHB
LMURPHY
CSCHALLENS**
DMOORE
?
* He wants to be a Raider need to pull the trigger as he has some gas left in the tank.
** If he is past his injuries and can play more than 4 games this season.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Steve Smith would be an awesome addition to the NATION.
The only reservation I would have is which of our young WR’s would take a production hit….
My Starting WR’s SSMITH, DMOORE, & JFORD
With solid doses of Shallens, and Lmurphy
DHB can come in on the occasional reverse…
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Now you have a chance at a good passing game.
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Yeah adn if we get decent line play from our rookies wouldnt mind throwing some 5 Wr’s…Let DHB run a go as a decoy….
May 5th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Intrigued about the jones pick however, would Quzz Rodgers from oregon been a better option?
May 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I agree about Nnamdi thing, He’s a great player but he just is not a difference maker.
He can be in there shutting his side off and the D still gives up almost 30 passing touch downs. Its just not worth it to give up 15+Mil. for such a specialized skill.
Maybe if moved to safety…?
May 5th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
@Raidertalk,
Yeah, that could be what they were contemplating – tried it out a little last year, and he would be the FS of Big Als dreams! Personally i would like to see him stay, but as they have not been willing to consistantly move him around, he might be ablt to have maximum impact as FS! As well as he could come down as CB in some packages – definately a possibility! Could see Nnamdi going for that as well, would improve his involvement as he has been asking for..
May 5th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
@Thec,
Quizz is a good MJD like back who could really become something in the right system – but he is not the explosive, mismatch homerun threat that TJ is! RB is not a need, but as they saw TJ having the potential of becoming the CJ2K 2.0, they had to jump the chance – if they truly believe he might have that potential, how could they not? Would make him the steal of the decade! But in the meantime, he can line up at WR and create mismatches, which Quizz couldnt do to the same extent! I like Quizz alot and think he will be succesful, but TJ was the only one they couldnt ‘let go’ because of the potential to be an explosive bigplay probowler (not saying he is or will be, but they think he might have that potential – Hue J said the same when comparing him to CJ2K), despite not having a need at the position..
May 5th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
when is Jerry going to write another blog…I mean seriously i know there not much to talk about but still he still hasnt wrote anything about the staduim name being change and hell that was what week or 2 ago????…or what about other post i seen of others writers that has post about the raiders and they arent even raiders writers beat…WTF Jerry you are paid to write about anything about our beloved raiders???…lol
May 5th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@Harder2000,
Solid post Bruh… I just saw some video footage of TJ. I will go on record as saying he has more swivel than DMAC MBUSH, and JFORD…
May 5th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@Harder2000,did you notice how when we took TJ, right after him I beleive the next pick was rodgers?
Looking and his You footage, teams will not be able to give this guy any sembelence of a crease or seam…
May 5th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIN6EWoPBo
@5:02 of this video look at the move he puts on the LB…
Thats some real swivel…
May 5th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Agreed Thec – he has some really nice speed and elusiveness to him! Exciting to see how far he can take it! Didnt CJ2K also come from a small school in a less than great division? Or am i remembering wrong?
May 5th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Yeah, remimds me of when CJ sidestepped Branch for the long TD – that kind of movement is so rare! He has some immense potential no doubt!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
If Nnamdi wants to be here he will be here. Stop whinning about what someone else is making because it had ZERO to do with him staying. Nnamdi has complete say of whether he stays or goes. He will be offered a fair salary if he takes it he stays if not he goes the other players have nothing to do with it. Big Al just doesn’t wnat to pay double what he’s worth………….period
May 5th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Maybe if another daughter of a quasi-famous guy becomes a Raiderette Jerry will throw us a new thread.
May 5th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Chris Johnson went to Eastern Carolina….
Watching this TJ charater I may need to asses who is going to be RON this year….I had it as a battle between DMORRE and Wizard of Oz however I may need to
throw him in the mix…WAAAYYY to much swiv to sit, matter
of fact I would let him play some Wr as he has good hands….
May 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Also, have you noticed how many of the runs he ends up being gangtackled while running several yards before they get him down? – makes me wonder if this is the reason he has so many fumbles..? Sometimes he carries the rock as a loaf of bread, but seems pretty aware when contact is imminent.. But if he doesnt go down but drags the tacklers along, they have more time to try and hit the rock loose.. just a thought, not sure if its the case..
May 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
TJ did a spin move and put the LB on his A$$ hahahaha..
May 5th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Haha, thought the same thing when i first watched the reels.. And he will be utilized in special formations, as well as WR! Get him in free space and the safeties will have a nightmare catching him (LBs just wont!).. Moore is a good bet as well – he really seems to have what we need! Most importantly he can catch whatever is thrown at him! Really think he was a steal!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
That could have something to do with it… We just added another bonified weopon to the arsenal…Go get steve smith as the vet WR and we will have one of the most potent O’s in the NFL…
May 5th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Moore is a good bet as well – he really seems to have what we need! Most importantly he can catch whatever is thrown at him! Really think he was a steal!
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YEEEEAAAHHHHH… I agree 1000%…This youngster has the best hands on this team…. Also he makes great adjustments on the Ball. Hue Is a mastermind…
May 5th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
If he can adjust to the bigger and especially faster players he will face in the NFL, he will become a special player as Hue says! He has the intangibles, now it is a matter if his body can hold up and he can adjust properly.. Think he can! But he wont be able to rack up the YAC as he has been doing in college – these big dudes will get him down … if they can catch him!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Cable would have never reconized the offensive talent like HueJack….
May 5th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Tom Cable was a little too touchy feely.
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LOL @ Guest123
link? source?
May 5th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
I can’t understand for the life of me how TJ lasted until the 4th rnd and the same goes for DMoore that kid is at worst a 2nd rnd pick IMO botyh of them are. I think we stole TJ this kid has as much talent as DMC and is capable of caryying 210 lbs. which what Marcus Allen played at I can’t wiat to see these kids in silver and black. Those two and DVD make this a very good draft and that doesn’t even count the Oline help.
May 5th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
NNAMDI ISNT LEAVING!!!!
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no kidding. He’s already gone!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Listen don’t even mention Cable and Hujack in the same sentence if not for Hujack we go 5-11………..period
May 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Yeah – think the QB and Coach problems have really helped him out (except for the paycheck that goes with a lower draft choice), as it has helped him to adjust to different throwing styles, adjust to new situations and learn from whatever context he is in.. And adding to that the injury, this might have been one of the most overlooked players! He will definately be integrated in the playbook, and if he and JC can create a rapport, he will get a lot of time! As i see it, the WR positions is pretty much up in the air with regards to numbers, so he can moce up the chain if he gets it going quickly – which it seems he might be able to! Exciting 5th rd pick!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Name one receiver JR ever had here in the same universe as Steve Smith?
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2007 – Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie
2008 – Javon Walker
2009 – Louis Murphy
May 5th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Listen don’t even mention Cable and Hujack in the same sentence if not for Hujack we go 5-11………..period
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Truth
May 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Steve Smith would be an awesome addition to the NATION
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Carolina will have addition by subtraction
no thanks @ excess baggage
May 5th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Thec, nice….haven’t seen that video yet.
Boy could play…has a similar look to DMAC game!
May 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
@Priesttj, agreed – TJ and Moore great value! Havent really seen enough of DVD to pass judgement – do you have some insight? From what i hear he has immense potential, which im looking forward to seeing!
Intrigued about Gordon as well – didnt see the pick coming, but as touted as he was coming out of HS, he should have some recieving potential! And if he is a great blocker – which i hear, he should be a solid 6th rd imo (should perhaps have gotten Virgil Green though, but time will tell)..
May 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
if not for Hujack we go 5-11
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Hue Jax gets credit for the Jason Campbell trade, dumping JR & DMAC staying healthy? or drafting JFORD?
wow. thats a lot for an OC
May 5th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Name one receiver JR ever had here in the same universe as Steve Smith?
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2007 – Jerry Porter, Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie
2008 – Javon Walker
2009 – Louis Murphy
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All gone from the NFL within one year. Murphy at best is a 3rd receiver. I repeat, name a receiver JR had that is in the same universe (talent wise) as Steve Smith?
May 5th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
I don’t know about steve smith. He obviously has better hands and reliability than any of our current WRS, but he is the smallish speedster type receiver.
Don’t we have enough of those here already?
Jacoby, JLH, DHB etc. Don’t we need a bigger possession receiver that can actually catch a critical 3rd down or fade route in the endzone, to complete this WR corp?
May 5th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
If Nnamdi was a different teams FA Al Davis would be the first in line to give him a MEGA deal.
Give the man a 10 year $100mil contract and make him a Raider for life! We need a replacement for Mr. Raider Tim Brown… The Face of the Franchise, other than Davis himself!
May 5th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Also, think about TJ having played CB before being converted to RB in College – he must have a lot of unlocked potential tthat can be reached by relatively simple changes and coaching.. Really some potential to work with for Hue Jack!
May 5th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:10 am
“How many games did DMAC play last year? Now, how many TDs did he get? How many multiple TD games did he have?
THANK YOU”
He played in 13 games had 7 rushing TD’s and 4 fumbles and had two games with multiple TD’s
Arian foster played in 16 games had 16 TD’s and 2 fumbles and had 6 multiple TD games.
He is also paid a lot less than DMAC
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You’re not making the decisions, so it really doesnt matter does it? And Houston really tore it up in the playoffs didnt they?
numbnut
May 5th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Taiwan looks good in that video, but that wasn’t necessarily against top-flight competition.
I still think as far as this class of RB’s, the Cardinals get the best one in Ryan Williams.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I will be at the games next year rooting for DMAC, DHB and Campbell because when the whistle blows and its game time whoever is wearing Silver and Black is on our team and deserves fan support.
This Blog is a fun place to complain about things but the reality is we do not have any control or say so about who or who is not on the roster.
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Now thats the spirit. And please keep hands and legs inside the vehicle as it is in motion.
“Bandwagon Transportation Authority”
May 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I will be at the games next year rooting for DMAC, DHB and Campbell because when the whistle blows and its game time whoever is wearing Silver and Black is on our team and deserves fan support.
This Blog is a fun place to complain about things but the reality is we do not have any control or say so about who or who is not on the roster.
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That kinda got me all teary eye….did you get that from Braveheart?
Lol…jk!
May 5th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Your a real bright one there RaiderSamIam
May 5th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Come on guys that was hours a go and taken out of context.
Relax tards I will have some new material for you since you seem to only be able to repost my posts and are not able to come up with anything original yourselves.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
2000 DVD is different tha most corners we’ve drafted in that he already has the ability cover and blanket guys especially deep. He has very good balll skills. Now he will play the run but he’s not physical although he is a willing tackler. He needs work on press bump and run at the snap. he needs to get bigger to jam better. But he has the quickest feet and loose hips you’ll see he can flat turn and run in the blink of an eye. Great makeup speed and plays the ball very well deep. This kid has the potential to be an elite cover corner early. Think of Deion Sanders early in his career he’s somewhat similar. That’s the best I can giv eya’.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Has any of you seen extensive play from TE Richard Gordon?
I havent seen to much of Miami, but just saw this compilation from the Sun Bowl game against Notre Dame – Gordon looks like a beast when blocking! When he is in he really takes care of his assignments and he has some serious mean streak to him! If this is his regular level of blocking, then B Myers is gone and we have a good blocking TE to set the edge! He is fast too – wasnt too excited before, sure am now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1HdT66TxKg
May 5th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
I know its not easy being myopic when you have the #12 rusher in the league and your little brain interprets that as the #1 back in the NFL.
The whole point of the earlier posts were Mcfaddden needs to stay healthy for a whole season before we CROWN him MVP. Yes he earned his money last year but he has been injury prone and missed a lot of games. Not a big secret its pretty much a well known fact YES even in la la land where teh average IQ is 80.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I shouldn’t have mentioned Deion’s name because I’m going to have some BOZO say I said DVD was as good as Sanders and I didn’ and am NOT saying any such thing. I mentioned Deion Sanders because body type and mmovement wise he reminds you of Deion. But Deion was an elite cover corner the day he waass drafted. Where as DVD is several levels below that. But he has that kind of potential due to his quick twitch body movement and very long arms. And he is cat quick…….but he is no where near as skilled as Deion was at the same point in careers.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Our current WR corp has enough small speed guys, we need a bigger possession type receiver. 3rd down Chain mover and red-zone fade ability!
That is not Steve Smith
May 5th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Thanks Priest! Sounds like DVD was a great pick then! Woodson will help him develope and the size and strength will come when he is in a pro strength programme! Must admit, im getting more excited about the draft as i hear more about the guys.. Had some issues and questions at first, but mainly based on the different scouting reports, so its nice to hear and see aspects that wasnt described that well! Hope DVD is the next big thing, he seemed very sympathetic when he was interviewed!
May 5th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Dear Roger:
I agree 100% that the league and the players(inmates) need to talk in order to strike a new deal. However, the players(“partners”) and their hired ambulance chaser, DEmo “i wanna be paid like Upshaw” Smith do not think like rational people.
See, players are only capable of saying ridiculous things, wearing pants on the ground, buying bling(and not paying for them), shooting themselves with guns, doing drugs, beating women, assaulting women, praising terrorists, and getting arrested. They also can not think for themselves, take ownership of their actions, accept that they are not above the law, accept that they are not entitled to whatever they want, and can only follow the words of a career lawyer who’s only interest is billable hours.
If the players(inmates) and their attorney really wanted to bargain they would not have gotten up in the middle of a bargaining session, decertify their union in sham fashion, and run like Jesse Owens to file action in the courts.
They claimed that a lockout will harm them soooo bad and the issue is sooooo important yet their group of plaintiffs don’t even show up for the hearings. They claim that they are still working together as a union, but they decertified ???
They claim they “earned” the right to demand over 50% of all income derived from the league. Yet not one “player” has invested a single dime in purchasing a team, insurance, upkeep, financing, or any other expense involved in owning and operating a business. They erronously feel that the league can not survive without them, when in fact it is they that can not survive without the league.
They also want to be your “partners” Roger. LMAO right?
Yea, I know we have to speak the “partner” line publicly for appearances, but their is no way in hell I will associate myself with a “partner” that doesnt know how to dress appropriatly in public, doesnt pay their bills, does drugs, calls us “slavemasters”, makes stupid public statements, and gets arrested daily.
Anyway, can’t wait till the 8th circuit and our business “friends” on the bench rule in our favor shortly. Then that pimp wannabe DEmo Smith will come crying to get a deal done when the “partners” start missing paychecks and are unable to pay their baby mamas. LMAO!!!
Everything is going to plan Roger!! Stick to the plan.
Can you dig it!!!!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Glad you amended that a little Priest.
Comparing DVD to the greatest cover corner ever might have been a tad bit of an overstatement.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
2000 DVD is different tha most corners we’ve drafted in that he already has the ability cover and blanket guys especially deep. He has very good balll skills.
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His profile says he has bad “ball skills”
May 5th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
RaiderSam = Mcfaddens transvestite second cousin seeking affirmation on a Raider BLOG.
Its ok if you have a man crush on a player but don’t coddle his sack in here keep it to yourself, your fantasy will last longer that way and also you won’t get your little chat feelings hurt as bad.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Haha, got the intention in the first Priest – but i guess you’re right, better clarify before someone jumps your neck for it! -)
May 5th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Now, will Plaxico’s need for redemption, check his previous behavior issues?
May 5th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Raiders selected Miami CB Demarcus Van Dyke with the No. 81 overall pick in the 2011 NFL draft.
Van Dyke didn’t start for the Canes last year, playing behind Ryan Hill and Brandon Harris. But the Raiders couldn’t resist DVD’s speed. He ran 4.28 at February’s Combine at 6′1/174. Van Dyke has drawn some optimistic comparisons to Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, although he rarely played to that capability at The U. He had three interceptions in his entire college career, and is more track athlete than football player at this point.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
I know this isnt in any way showing his play, but it shows his extremely fast feet and his change of directions – comparing to other CBs, this is just ridiculously fast! Dont know what his problems is, but Woodson definately has something to work with! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6IHMroG0A
May 5th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
We will keep 7 WR’s
SSMITH*
JFORD
DHB
LMURPHY
CSCHALLENS**
DMOORE
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I think that would be a GREAT idea to get Steve Smith (don’t know what it would take to get him though). We traded our starting MLB last year for a 4th round pick, and traded Randy Moss for a 4th round pick….
But, I think it would be more like
We will keep 7 WR’s
SSMITH*
JFORD
LMURPHY
DMOORE
CSCHALLENS**
DHB
I think that this would be the order of what their playing time should be and probably production. I actually think all 5 of the named receivers are better than DHB.
May 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
KK do you ever look at the player and evaluate them yourself? If you know anything about man coverage the CB rarely gets int’s but this kis tracks the ball very well. In the senior bowl he covered Titus Young and blanketed him to the point of frustrating him. If you knwo anything about Titus Young you’ll know how hard that is. This kid is a pure cover corner not a cover2 corner and he will get inj your jock. he’s just not very physical in press which is why they didn’t start him eventhough he played a TON!. He needs to get bigger and more physical at this level. But I never remember Deion Sanders smacking anybody he just blanketed you thus the comparison.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
TJ
I’m not surprised, you compared DHB to Jerry Rice. That’s what you do.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
@Raiderzmaverick, we didnt even get a 4th rd pick for Captain Kirk – we gave him AND our 5th rd pick to get Jags 4th rd pick.. But at least we went and got Ford who has shown great promise!
May 5th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Id rather have Gordon than Green for the role that we need to fill on this team. Green is not that good of a blocker and is has a smaller frame than Gordon; Green checking in at 6′3″ 249 and Gordon 6′3″ 265. Green ran a 4.64 and Gordon ran a 4.66 so there isn’t much difference in speed.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Van Dyke likely made Al Davis swoon when he broke 4.3 seconds in the 40 yard dash at the NFL Combine.
Van Dykes speed and quickness are unquestionably elite and he has showed the ability to make NFL caliber plays during his four years at Miami. He has all the physical tools to be a successful corner in the NFL.
However, Van Dyke has never fully committed to football as he also ran varsity track in Coral Gables. He will have to have to fully commit to being a football player if he wants to find any success in the NFL.
Additionally, the 6’1″ Van Dyke weighs in at a mere 176 lbs soaking wet making size another huge concern NFL teams.
As impressive as the track star’s 4.25 40 time is, his pathetic five reps on the combine bench press will be equally as important to NFL teams looking for a CB who can play press coverage with Anquan Bolden and Hines Ward.
If he can add 10 pounds of muscle to his frame without losing any speed he could be a force to be reckoned with in the NFL.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Definately right Severeraiderz, Gordon is a good blocker – Green a reciever.. But we might have been able to get Gordon in the 7th, and Green was rated as a 3rd by most, thus a value pick! But it really seems we might have found yet another late rd gem – and the speed as well as his athletic ability could help him become a legit recieving threat as well! He seems to be a great supplement to Miller and Hue Jacks two te sets! Really seems strong, and releases well!
May 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Like Ausberry too though, seems to have some X-Factor like Reece! Hope we get Toliver as well, then were stacked with X-Factor players and a big, reliable wr to help all over, as well as a blocker!
May 5th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
KK
That scouting report almost says what I said eventhough it’s worded differently. The kid has the talent to be a top teir cover corner if he works at it and gets the coaching.
If he were bigger and could handle presss he would’ve gone in the 1st rnd with Jimmy Smith.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
KK no matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true. So you repost that as much as you wish no one compared DHB to Jerry Rice.
But it doesn’t surprise me that you’d lie for no reason other than to LIE.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Harder2000 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Definately right Severeraiderz, Gordon is a good blocker – Green a reciever.. But we might have been able to get Gordon in the 7th, and Green was rated as a 3rd by most, thus a value pick! But it really seems we might have found yet another late rd gem – and the speed as well as his athletic ability could help him become a legit recieving threat as well! He seems to be a great supplement to Miller and Hue Jacks two te sets! Really seems strong, and releases well!
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Yeah, i think between him and Ausberry, Myers may be out of a job. I also really like Toliver and if Jefferson wasn’t such a horrible QB his receiving numbers would have been much better.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
KK your jealousy is getting more and more petty dude grow up!!!
May 5th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Gordon, Ausberry, Toliver – wouldnt mind trading that for Myers! I was actually pretty high on Myers, but his blocking hasnt been what i expected it would be, and he is an adequate, but not good, reciever..
Even though Toliver suffered from bad QB play, his potential and his abilities shines through so often – dont get why he wasnt drafted! Size, speed, hands, blocking ability, running after catch – kid has it all! Really think he will be one of those UDFA stories that in a few years will be brought up when discussing undrafted but succesful players! He has the potential to be a really solid contributer in the right scheme!
May 5th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just really hope that Toliver wont be wearing powder blue in the next season, would really hate to see that! SnB for him!
Gotta go, take care guys..
May 5th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
KK your jealousy is getting more and more petty dude grow up!!!
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Why the hell would I be jealous of you?
May 5th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Lane only made it to the # 6 worst coach in NFL history
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/539255-the-25-worst-coaches-in-nfl-history/page/21
May 5th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
2000 DVD is different tha most corners we’ve drafted in that he already has the ability cover and blanket guys especially deep. He has very good balll skills.
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He has below avg ball skills according to the scouting reports. Now, either you’re lying, or you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Damned if I know which, frankly.
May 5th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Well as I said those scouting reports are for you to read I did my own evaluation. I think he has very good ball skills and I don’t give a damn what someone else says. Get it stupid?
May 5th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
You’re jealous of me for the same stupid reasons you continue to lie on me, you’re just a petty insecure person………….period
May 5th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Priesttj, I don’t have to lie on ya, dumbass:
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ Raji is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
May 5th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
KK do you ever look at the player and evaluate them yourself?
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Bootlicker have you? You’ve never had an opinion different from what you perceived to be Al Davis’ opinion, since you’ve been posting here.
May 5th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Jealous? I don’t think so. Loathing, maybe.
May 5th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
You never had an opinion worth listening to, you’re full of hate and anyone who thinks anything positive about Mr Davis you have issues with.
KK you are a petty insecure childish individual who needs to get a life beyond this blog………..figure it out dude you’re sick…….period
May 5th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
415.priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
You never had an opinion worth listening to, you’re full of hate and anyone who thinks anything positive about Mr Davis you have issues with.
KK you are a petty insecure childish individual who needs to get a life beyond this blog………..figure it out dude you’re sick…….period
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Exactly……KK is a sad bitter old feel
May 5th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Steve Smith or Chad?…’ll take either but prefer Ocho
May 5th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
KK I don’t see anything in that post about DHB being as good as Jerry Rice dumbass liar, I simply asked a question and made an observation now where in there is Al Davis included??? like I said not only are you jealous you’re clueless.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Steve Smith or Chad?…’ll take either but prefer Ocho
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Based on recent production? Santana Moss.
Ochocinco would be a huge distraction and the minute he doesn’t think he’s seeing the ball enough, he’ll start shooting his mouth off. The Raiders have done well to avoid players like this in the last couple seasons.
Steve Smith is pretty much the same kind of player as Santana Moss, but I give Moss the edge because he has experience with both Jason Campbell and Al Saunders. And last season was a 1,000 yard season for Moss, so obviously he still has at least a little left in the tank.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
You never had an opinion worth listening to, you’re full of hate and anyone who thinks anything positive about Mr Davis you have issues with.
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That’s a lie, as usual for you.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
TJ the Clown’s Wisdoms:
Davis/Kiffin feud is a media conspiracy.
BJ Raji is a fat slob
DHB = Jerry Rice
Demarcus Van Dyke = Deion Sanders
May 5th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
TJ The Clown
I don’t have to lie on ya:
Priesttj Says:
April 28th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
I’v ebeen telling you guys the Wiz kid isn’t what everybody thinks he is. He’s a good player but he’s not what everyone says he is I think we can get him in the 3rd. Draft Kappy in the 2nd comeback and get Wiz in the 3rd and a WR in the 4th. Draft Van Dyke in the 5th and you have a very good draft.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
TJ The Clown
I don’t have to lie on ya:
Priesttj Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Man that is scary the Redskins have made some monumental mistakes drafting QB’s. Heath Shuler to begin with and I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful. I think they traded for Joe Theisman or picked him up as a FA after he was a bust somewhere else. I gaurantee you they wish they had kept Campbell, now they’re spending another high draft pick on a QB. If campbell is successful here Shanahan is going to look like a complete idiot especially if he drafts another bust. Teams are desparate for QB’s and they’re reaching like crazy. That’s why I want to get a good young QB now when we don’t need him.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
On the other hand
KoolKell Says:
April 28th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
I have no idea who the Raiders will pick. I kinda hope Wiz. Frankly, I’m not a college football guy anyway.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Like I said this guy is a complete idiot and a liar anybody reading my post knows I didn’t say DVD was as good as Sanders but this fool will spin his web of lies anyway possible.
KK is just jealous and full of hate because he can’t be me he wants to do what I did and he can’t so he plants lies to make himself feel better. The personification of a lowlife hater.
KK you’re hopelesss sucka, it is sad as Bauce said. Dude you need help……period
May 5th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
KK why are you reposting my post? what’s your point dude? do you have one or are you just obsessed with me?
May 5th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
As thought your points on the back of your head…..
May 5th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Priesttj Says:
April 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Man that is scary the Redskins have made some monumental mistakes drafting QB’s. Heath Shuler to begin with and I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful
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What a Clown!
May 5th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Sad man!! KK you aint worth no more of my time……..Mr repost with no point…get it through your head you can’t be me.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Sad man!! KK you aint worth no more of my time……..Mr repost with no point…get it through your head you can’t be me.
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Who are you? All I know is you’re a Bootlicker……….
May 5th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
TJ,
See comments 235-244
back Kell into a corner and he starts in with the name calling & personal attacks.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
BHP dont even trip on Kell and his bitter world. He is upset because everyone isnt crying like he is. I’m rolling with Al thru the good, bad and ugly. When we are celebrating pre and post game in Oakland he will be sitting along drunk and still sobbing
May 5th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
431.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
TJ,
See comments 235-244
back Kell into a corner and he starts in with the name calling & personal attacks.
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Podunk Express……he istghe worse. I mean I do it from time to time but that is Kell’s whole MO. It is pitiful someone can have lived more than 3/4 of their life and still be so immature
May 5th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
RR and bauce I get it, I should’ve ignored the fool from the beginning. Go Raiders!!! can’t wait ’til we tee it up for real..
May 5th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful
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not even Jay Schroeder?
May 5th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
244.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Kell,
let’s stick to the topic at hand, ok?
If you’re a Raider fan, you just called yourself a clown.
If you’re not, then you’re a big fat liar due to what you posted yesterday.
Which is it ???
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Answer still pending I see lol….good stuff Podunker……oh yeah Laker fans are preparing their suicide sunday night
May 5th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
434.priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
RR and bauce I get it, I should’ve ignored the fool from the beginning. Go Raiders!!! can’t wait ’til we tee it up for real..
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Yeah I’m very excited for it all. From the Bart to tailgate to the post game celebrations at the bar. Anyone who wants to continue negativity hates their own life
May 5th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
the Redskins drafted a QB in ‘64 named Dick Shiner
true story. LOL. poor guy!
(7th rounder out of Maryland)
May 5th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
438.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
the Redskins drafted a QB in ‘64 named Dick Shiner
true story. LOL. poor guy!
(7th rounder out of Maryland)
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He has to be a distant relative of MR
May 5th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Steve Smith or Chad?…’ll take either but prefer Ocho
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Bauce,
Ageed. Johnson > Smith
Jacoby Ford is the only smurf welcome on the final 53 imo
my boy Johnnie Lee is already workin’ at the Supercuts and Nick Miller is gonna be a cashier at the local AMPM
May 5th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Bauce, you speak the truth no one can hate o a day to day basis and be happy dude has to be in some serious pain.
I’ll be getting my season tickets post haste bro. I’m excited, this is going down Raider style. Book it!!
May 5th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
440.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Steve Smith or Chad?…’ll take either but prefer Ocho
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Bauce,
Ageed. Johnson > Smith
Jacoby Ford is the only smurf welcome on the final 53 imo
my boy Johnnie Lee is already workin’ at the Supercuts and Nick Miller is gonna be a cashier at the local AMPM
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Ouch but hey not like I can go against this
May 5th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
441.priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Bauce, you speak the truth no one can hate o a day to day basis and be happy dude has to be in some serious pain.
I’ll be getting my season tickets post haste bro. I’m excited, this is going down Raider style. Book it!!
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Well I hope to run into one of these guys OG. Norco Bob told me he met ya years ago and you really cool dude.
Hell yeah its going down. Alot of a_holes from back east folks coming this season. NYJ,NE,Cleveland,Chicago and Detroit. The Trash talking shall be awesome
May 5th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
I’ll be getting my season tickets post haste bro.
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Let’s see…..that will make 22,001
May 5th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
444.KoolKell Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
I’ll be getting my season tickets post haste bro.
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Let’s see…..that will make 22,001
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So what? I’ll take 20,000 real ones over a bunch of fake people. But you would understand anything about that old punk
May 5th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
You can’t claim to be an critical observer, when you parrot every Raider public line. That’s Bootlicking.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Bauce Fool
The old punk is your father.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I have a feeling this is going to be a very strong draft class for Oakland.
I even think Gordon & Ausberry make the 53 man roster.
free agency won’t be kind to Oakland though with Gallery, Asomugha, Huff & Gradkowski leaving town
that elevates Loper, CJ37, Eugene & Boller – yikes!
Gotta hope the youngsters step it up!
DVD, Chewy, Mitchell & Brown in the secondary
Wiz, Barks, Campbell & Veldheer on the O-Line
Gotta find a better #2 QB than Boller in FA since we didn’t find anybody
May 5th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Rockstar
You have a computer at home, or are you working the night shift?
May 5th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Bauce he just doesn’t get it, it’s all about the momentum we established last year and keeping it going to the top. All real Raider fans are already down. Dude’s a caste off.
But to the Vet rec I’m OK with either Smith or CJ I just would hate to let an up an coming stud go somewhere else for one them. But I’m willing to let it play out on the field. I just want to win………period
May 5th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
This draft classs is better than I thought as well RR I studied soem of these kids after we got them and man I’m impressed with them. TJ is flat out playmaker, so is DMoore and i’ve always liked DVD. Both Olineman need strength training and they could be very good. But it looks to be a stronger draft than I first thought.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Why does it have to be Chad or Steve Smith?
Chad is a Head-case probably worse than Randy
Steve Smith would be one of many smallish speederster receivers that WE ALREADY HAVE
May 5th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
447.KoolKell Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Bauce Fool
The old punk is your father.
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LOL, I notice you love to go an insult my parents. You upset your offspring suck and arent as cool as the Bauce?
May 5th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
452.raidertalk Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Why does it have to be Chad or Steve Smith?
Chad is a Head-case probably worse than Randy
Steve Smith would be one of many smallish speederster receivers that WE ALREADY HAVE
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Because their experience of running routes vs defenses. Who else is there to consider? We need productive vet WRs who can teach the youngsters. Chad never can be worse than Randy and Hue will keep it in check. Steve Smith is small but plays like he is 6′4. Love that fire
May 5th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
PLAXICO; he has the size that we need to complete this already fast WR group.
Have you guys been watching the same 3rd down futility that I have?
Will Steve Smith be able to be a weapon in the red zone?
I realize he had some issues before but if your gonna consider a head case like CHAD OCHOCINCO, why not Plax?
We already have the speedsters we need possession on 3rd down and a legit red zone threat!
May 5th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Plax wont be good until 2012. He hasnt played in a good while. I dont care who you are it takes at least a year to get fully back in it. I aint got time for that. We need a vet WR for 2011
May 5th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
456.Bauce Rules Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Plax wont be good until 2012. He hasnt played in a good while. I dont care who you are it takes at least a year to get fully back in it. I aint got time for that. We need a vet WR for 2011
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True, but vick was able to contribute some his first season back, altho very little, but WR is not as demanding as QB and his contribution could grow as the season goes along.
May 5th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
You are right about rust and all for Plax.
I wonder if he palyed any prison ball like Vick did? I heard he was working out tho.
Could also be tough to get him practiced up if the offseason keeps shrinking because of the CBA issue.
But I think it could be worth the risk.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I’ll tell ya with these kids we have now I want to see them in camp before we act to hasty, I know we’re not deep at WR but we have some kids that could develope. As long as we don’t sacrifice some serious talent for it. It’s all good, in the interest of winning this division.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
# Thec07 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIN6EWoPBo
@5:02 of this video look at the move he puts on the LB…
Thats some real swivel…
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Casserly is good.
Love the Jones pick and like I said before, I would have given this Raider draft an A- if they would have took Matthews instead of Chekwa.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
# Thec07 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIN6EWoPBo
@5:02 of this video look at the move he puts on the LB…
Thats some real swivel…
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The kids running style reminds me of a mix between Charlie Garner and Jamaal Charles.
Nice! Raiders are set at RB for awhile. I was thinking of them getting Delone Carter in Round 4 or Alex Green but TJ was a solid pick.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 4th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Brandon Bair
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Pat Devlin
QB Josh Portis
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
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They should look to pickup FB Hyonski, S Silva and DT/DE Thornton, and OL David Mims.
May 5th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Yeah TJ is almost a Jamaal Charles clone he’s just faster and bigger. I really didn’t know TJ was as big as he is because he runs like a scatback. But at 205 and the frame to get bigger at 6′1″ he can get as big as DMC and man that 4.2 speed when he hits it is just SICK!! his “get gone” is off the charts. As he gets stronger and mature like DMC did man those two will have DC’s up all night trying to scheme to stop ‘em.
I’m going to say this right now, if JC can just be a stabilizing enfluence on this team he doesn’t have to be great, he has to manage games. Don’t turn it over and make a couple of stick throws this team can got to the bowl in the next two years. I think we can win one if JC can be in the top 12 QB’s in this league…………
The “Priest of the black hole” has spoken!!
May 5th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Tons of knocks on Taiwan.
Inconsistent hands. Nearly zero blocking. Fumbled 18 times. Long and serious injury history. Considered by scouts as “immature and naive”.
IF he works out, great news.
If he doesn’t well, odds lean more that direction.
With a 4th? Hellz yeah lets see what he can do…
May 5th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
TJ obviously isnt a complete back but the element of the big payl is something that can only help the Raider offense
May 5th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
I cannot think of one QB in 50 years that the Redskins drafted that was successful
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What about JaJason Campbell ?
Uhhhhh….
Never mind.
Please Lord, let free agency signings commence, because if we go into 2011 with JaJason and Boller as our only options at QB, I’m finding it hard to be optimistic about the upcoming season.
JaJason Cantball sucks.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Whoever hasn’t heard the interview on sirius radio with Hujack should take a listen on the Raider website. Nothing earthshattering just a couple of insights.
Before the draft I gave my opinion of the Wiz kid and I still stand by it. Gil Brandt kind of echoed my opinion about Wiz and he is a what I call a technician his not Pouncey w/the Steelers but he is extremely smart and quicker than Pouncey just not as stout. Wiz will be at C what Dave Dalby was just for reference purposes very solid very reliable and he’s not going to get beat often. Because he plays to well technically, you might say he was groomed to play C and he’ll be a probowl level C for 10 years because he is so tecnically sound. But he’s not Barrett Robbins, he’s not going to take DT’s and put ‘em on there backs he’ll block ‘em just not as dominannt as BRobb. And that’s my fault because I compare everyone to BRobb and those guys are very rare so while I think we got him a bit high I will say he’ll be very good to great almost immediately.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Tons of knocks on Taiwan.
Inconsistent hands. Nearly zero blocking. Fumbled 18 times. Long and serious injury history. Considered by scouts as “immature and naive”.
IF he works out, great news.
If he doesn’t well, odds lean more that direction.
With a 4th? Hellz yeah lets see what he can do…
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Meh, the kid is not going to be a full time back anyway. He makes sense being the change of pace back and someone to use to catch defenses off guard every now and then. I think he can be used in the screen game very effectively.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Steve Smith would be one of many smallish speederster receivers that WE ALREADY HAVE
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smallish, speedster? sounds like someone is into measurables. steve smith is a star Z wr. no if ands or buts about it. if we have him at no.1, rotate DHB and murphy then ford in the slot watch out.
in my mind only works if you trade murphy and rotate DHB/ford/schilens in the X and Y spots. i think murphy drops too many personally and he has 3rd rnd value at this point.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
hell, trade murphy and a 6th for steve smith.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
I would much rather have Wiz ahead of the smaller Hudson. Wiz just screams Center far more than as a Guard. He is relatively big for a Center as well at 6′3, 313 and he will continue to get stronger and his technical skills, fundamentals, and hard work should put him over the top.
There is no way Wiz would have been there for the Raiders in Round 3. No way.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Bauce you’re 100% right and we shouldn’t expect TJ to be a complete back right now what we need from him is strikability the big play. If he can give us that a couple of times a game he’s more than worth the pick. And if DMC gets nicked like he almost certainly will we don’t lose much.
Fumbling is a lack of concentration he’s trying to hit the homerun b ut it’s fixable. DMC proved that!
I’m not the least bit worried about TJ right now he’s a luxury. The plus’s way outway the minus’s
May 5th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
DKnight007 You’re probably right about Wiz the 3rd I just wanted one of two guys soo bad Greg little or Kappy. I still can’t believe I have to watch Kappy in red and gold that really stinks.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
469.irjonny Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Steve Smith would be one of many smallish speederster receivers that WE ALREADY HAVE
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smallish, speedster? sounds like someone is into measurables. steve smith is a star Z wr. no if ands or buts about it. if we have him at no.1, rotate DHB and murphy then ford in the slot watch out.
in my mind only works if you trade murphy and rotate DHB/ford/schilens in the X and Y spots. i think murphy drops too many personally and he has 3rd rnd value at this point.
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Naw, I just think a Plaxico would give us more of a possession WR to move the chains and give us the ability to throw fades in the redzone, something we don’t have now.
But maybe we can be the Oregon Ducks of the nfl with a bunch of reverses, options and the like when it short yardage if you want.
when people load the box on short yardage we need a possession reciever to keep them in check.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Everyone enjoying Gringo de Mayo?
May 5th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
I wouldn’t trade anyone for those vet WR’s Steve Smtih might have 2 years left same with Chad even Plax is up in years. I don’t want to sacrifice anyone for one of those guys. If they come they come as FA or else no way. THese kids we have, have gone through the rough spots now they’re ready to produce and you get rid of them for a guy at the end of his career, I don’t want that.
I’ll take Smith but only as a FA……….period
May 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I think WIZ II was a good choice. Even if Wiz and Barksdale don’t start right away, this Oline is the deepest I can remeber since the early 2000s.
Love barksdale’s play against Bama last year, every time they ran a play to his side it seemed that they were having success.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b9owu3f2uE
May 5th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Raidertalk Man thanks for that link, I’ve been waiting on film of LSU and that gave me a very good idea of what type of player barksdale is. And I must say WOW WOW this kid is a MUCH better player tha I gave him credit for. His strength is pass blocking this kid can play LT in this league. He has great feet he’s not a dominant drive blocker but he is soooo technically sound in run and pass blocking. He is a real talent he needs to get stronger in his upperbody BUT he is soo tecnically sound he can play without it.
He steers very well and anticipates well. He drives his man right pass the QB the DE for Bama never touched the QB throughout the entire highlight. This kid is a very good player, I knew he had 39 starts and you can see why. he is very good at what he does. With some coaching and strength training he could be better than Veldheer IMO he has GREAT feet. I’m impressed!!
May 5th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
I’m not saying the two kids can start right away but if they do I have a LOT more confidece that they wont get eaten. It wont be like throwing fresh meat to wild dogs. Those two kis might get roughed up early but their technigue will be a huge help to them.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
# raidertalk Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
I think WIZ II was a good choice. Even if Wiz and Barksdale don’t start right away, this Oline is the deepest I can remeber since the early 2000s.
Love barksdale’s play against Bama last year, every time they ran a play to his side it seemed that they were having success.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b9owu3f2uE
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Bark definitely needs to use his legs and his feet more and stay engaged on his man until the whistle blows. He should work as a RG or RT. Coaches got to work him hard and have him remain focused.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
I knew Kap was going to go fast once Dalton got snagged by the Bengals. I thought the Bengals had a heckuva draft.
I just think Matthews is more of a Raider type of player than Chekwa. I’m not hoping Chekwa fails, I hope he does well and I’m sure he will work hard and develop….but I saw Matthews as more of a Raider.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
If Nnamdi and Huff leave, I wonder what kind of compensation picks, the Raiders will get next year?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Yeah TJ is almost a Jamaal Charles clone he’s just faster and bigger.
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Man, what a Bootlicker
DHB = Jerry Rice
Van Dyke = Deion Sanders
Taiwan Jones = Jamal Charles
Man, where’s your gag reflex?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
DKnight007 Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
If Nnamdi and Huff leave, I wonder what kind of compensation picks, the Raiders will get next year?
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I’m not aware of compensatory picks for losing Free Agents?
May 5th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Key to an offensive line, IMO, is continuity.
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Exactly. CONTINUITY is HUGE when it comes to the OLine and it seems like old man Al and Huey blew it all up. These youngsters better step it the hell up. They will go thru their growing pains thats for sure and we better hope it doesn’t hurt the offenses development and progress they gained from last year.
I think Satele should still start at Center and Wiz can play LG or RG if necessary. Let Campbell or Barksdale battle it out for the RT spot.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Expecting starting contribution beyond the 2nd round is overoptimistic.
Those rooks are battling for roster spots. I see Wisniewski and Barksdale getting lots of playing time.
The other guys just seem like raw / developmental types. I see no more than a couple of plays all season from them.
May 5th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
The guy syou look to step up are the 2nd and 3rd year guys….
Walter McFadden, Ware, Brown, Schilens, Tyvon Branch, McClain, Veldheer, Bruce Campbell, DHB (sigh, Murphy and McFadden
That’s the source of success for next year
May 5th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
SnB at least that’s what I would’ve expected the guys we drafted last year getting the time. I thought Barksdale was just a developmental kid. But watching his game vs Bama, while he’s not a dominating blocking he stays in front of his man he sters them and has very good lateral quickness. I’m not saying they should start at alll but Ifeel much different than what I felt after tha draft. I think we have at least two legitimate LT’s Barksdale may not be sytrong enough to play the entire season but he can defintely help in a pinch. He’s much farther along then I expected.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:05 am
I’m watching the KC game again at home, man JFord’s speed is downright ridiculous on the KR he ran away from the field like the were little kids. He doesn’t even look like he is running fast, he’s just flat out flying…………..lol
May 6th, 2011 at 12:07 am
471. Agreed. I’ll take the technician. Sure hope Wizzer anchors a League leading run game.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:09 am
489. just explodes out of the second wave like a surfer or a bullet out of a rifle. speed kills…
May 6th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Hey KK! Look man I’m getting tired of your crap dude you don’t like my post don’t read them. I’m tired of the namecalling now just back off.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Barksdale has got the long arms and nasty streak that should let him get after it. Wiz was the best center in the draft…..they should contribute.
Wiz will start for sure.
Walker did a decent job at RT last year. If he returns, he could keep Barksdale on the bench. I think Barksdale would beat out Barnes and Henderson
May 6th, 2011 at 12:42 am
After watching the kid SnB I would tend to agree I’ve totally changed my view on Barksdale. He can play!
May 6th, 2011 at 1:05 am
@Priest,
Big Barks look good, and how he handles Dareus against Alabama in the other clip is very promising! But he seems to have a little trouble against speedy edgerushers because he isnt always fast enough to set the edge.. He also has some troubles getting to the second level and locking on, as well as sustaining blocks.. But he is a powerful, well rounded technician and he has a lot of upside! I would really think about putting B Campbell on the outside and Big Barks inside, as Campbell is better setting the edge, and Big Barks Technique and strengt hwould really help inside! He seems to be a really solid pick at low 3rd imo..
Here is a few more of LSU O:
May 6th, 2011 at 1:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjeaK1TuvDQ (Texas AM)
May 6th, 2011 at 1:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=190fSn9BEvA (Auburn)
May 6th, 2011 at 1:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt38saqKz0s (Florida)
May 6th, 2011 at 4:01 am
339.raidertalk Says:
May 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I agree about Nnamdi thing, He’s a great player but he just is not a difference maker.
He can be in there shutting his side off and the D still gives up almost 30 passing touch downs. Its just not worth it to give up 15+Mil. for such a specialized skill.
Maybe if moved to safety…?
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omg im doing this on madden right now why didnt i think of this
May 6th, 2011 at 5:13 am
Any thoughts about all the empty seats in baseball?
We have seen the same thing in Raider ticket sales, although you could make a good case that would hold up in a court of law if you blamed Jalawsuit, but thats another story.
I was talking about it in here two years ago. I notice lots of empty seats at NASCAR this year whereas they were sold out in years past.
Empty seats are easy to spot at baseball games. I very seldom watch BB games so I cannot comment on them. However I bet we will see the effect at football games this year.
So in closing, which team will be the first to fold up the chairs?
May 6th, 2011 at 5:16 am
I still don’t get what Steve Smith brings to the table. We already have a younger version of him in Ford. If he comes, would he take reps that Ford would have otherwise gotten? And if we don’t take him, he says he’d like to go to San Diego. Should we get him just to play keep away from Phillip Rivers? He’s still got some left in the tank, and we could use Smith, but not at any high risk/cost.
Like others have said, I’d sign off the street. But not trade for him. I am firmly in the opinion we should get Ochocinco. He’s coming off a humilating year, and he knows he needs a taskmaster like Hue to get back to All-Pro status. I believe Hue will get that production out of him.
If we do sign either of them, or another vet WR, do we finally admit that DHB is a mistake and cut ties? You can’t keep throwing to him and watch him kill drives on 3rd down.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:27 am
Dang, all my posts (3) from yesterday were deleted.
Whats going on here besides the usual?
May 6th, 2011 at 5:28 am
I would take the Ochostinko over Smith.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:31 am
One of the reasons I brought up attendance is because of the Raiders. I sure hope ticket sales go up, not down.
I dont think the NFL commish has large enough balls to take over a team but you never know. Especially with a precedent being set in lalaland.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:33 am
I take back what I said about deleted post, they are still there. Need coffee
May 6th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Ocho has said he would he run through brick walls for Hue. He didn’t have that level of support, and Cincy was a mess last year. That’s an organization with some real problems.
He needs Hue Jax to bust his balls.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:35 am
One of the reasons I brought up attendance is because of the Raiders. I sure hope ticket sales go up, not down.
I dont think the NFL commish has large enough balls to take over a team but you never know. Especially with a precedent being set in lalaland.
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You talking about baseball, right? Not football. Football is so much more popular than baseball, it would never have those kind of problems.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:38 am
I am talking about all sports. Football already has those problems. Raiders drew less then 30,000 a game last year, did they not?
Amd the figures were probaly fudged. Even if teams manage to fill the house many other streams of revenue will be affected such as jersy sales.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:42 am
I am not making a big deal about it. I just thought more people were seeing what I am and if it will affect the Raiders.
I never rag on Al, however at some point in time you must have enough revenue to pay the bills. I just hope the Dodger problems do not move North
May 6th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
Ocho has mentioned coming here, and now That Midget, Steve Smith has also said that he wants out of Carolina and wants to come to either Oakland or SD! Or so I read…sorry guys, can’t give a link because I cannot access my personal email at work!
May 6th, 2011 at 6:04 am
I AGREE PLUNKETTHEAD.ECONOMY OR WHATEVER..THE MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM WERE I AM HAS SET ATTENDANCE RECORDS LAST THREE YEARS THOUGH.PEOPLE R STAYING LOCAL,ITS CHEAPER,THE ATHLETES R HUNGRY AND ACCESSABLE..JUST SAY’N..
May 6th, 2011 at 6:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
Ocho has mentioned coming here, and now That Midget, Steve Smith has also said that he wants out of Carolina and wants to come to either Oakland or SD! Or so I read…sorry guys, can’t give a link because I cannot access my personal email at work!
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Here’s the link:
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/source-steve-smith-seeking-trade-raiders-chargers-1539546/
May 6th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Wide Receivers.
I’d probably stay away from Steve Smith, 85 and T.O. not because they can’t give us a couple of good years but because they are the type of personality that won’t mesh well with Jason Campbell, as soon as they realize they’re not going to catch 90 passes in this offesne, and they won’t, they will start complaining and we don’t need JC forcing the ball to them.
We won 8 games last year and scored 24 or 25 ppg without a dominant WR, not that we can’t use one, but it’s worth it to give DHB and Murphy the chance to put it all together, while most of us can agree that Ford needs to be on the field most of the time and Denarius Moore has a good chance to contribute early just like Murphy did and if Chaz can stay healthy it would be huge.
Now if we are going to throw some money at the position, I would make San Diego’s Malcolm Floyd our top target, that’s the kind of player we could use right now, a 6′5 230 guy who can make plays deep and in the red zone.
If not Floyd who should get some good offers, then go cheaper with younger kids with something to prove like Houston’s Jacoby Jones (a nice sized burner stuck behind Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter), Tampa’s Maurice Stovall (underachieving big body, possesion type) or Arizona’s Early Doucett (a more complete player slowed down by injuries).
May 6th, 2011 at 6:10 am
Plunketthead Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 5:38 am
I am talking about all sports. Football already has those problems. Raiders drew less then 30,000 a game last year, did they not?
Amd the figures were probaly fudged. Even if teams manage to fill the house many other streams of revenue will be affected such as jersy sales.
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Raiders draw so little because the stadium sucks and is located in the ghetto of East San Leandro. It wasn’t always a ghetto, but that is what it became.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:10 am
DIRTLOT
Those minor games bring back the baseball magic, IMO.
Great place to take the kids, they can run all over and you can keep an eye on them. You get to watch and meet future pros. Inexpensive tickets and games played according to the ref’s time, not according to mainstream bspn for commercials time.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
It’s fair to point out that Steve Smith stuck by lousy Jake Delhomme and had his back for many years, he’s not T.O. who would have thrown Delhomme under the bus in no time.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
I think Ocho would be a good boy working his tail off for Hue Jackson. You wont find a more motivated WR than him, and he is humble now, coming off his “Ochostinko” season. He’s the guy we need to focus on. He won’t have any ridiculous demands for 90 balls or any of that. I think he’d love the Black Hole too.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Time to go fill a hole. Neighbor gave me his koi pond complete with fish and turtle. Its all running but time to pay for it with some easy labor.
I am practicing my barter skills for the days when stadiums will no londer be filled to the brim with fans whom have extra large wallets
May 6th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Those cheap options at WR, Stovall, Jacoby Jones, Doucett all have had issues with inconsistent hands. Do we really need another one of those types?
I didn’t realize Floyd was a FA. Yeah I agree he’d be a nice FA signing. But wouldn’t come cheap. I think Ocho will be cheaper and potentially more upside.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Bob Marley Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
It’s fair to point out that Steve Smith stuck by lousy Jake Delhomme and had his back for many years, he’s not T.O. who would have thrown Delhomme under the bus in no time.
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That’s true, but every man has his breaking point. He would probably get to the point of throwing Clausen or Newton under the bus. His last 3 years have ruined his chances at a HOF career.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Thanks for the link Guest…
Steve Smith could be ok here, but what Marley said is right…if Al breaks the bank for a FA receiver…go after Malcolm Floyd. Although, not only will he not come cheap, AJ Smith probably wouldn’t let him come here…Raiders will sweep SD again!
May 6th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Guest123
“That’s true, but every man has his breaking point. He would probably get to the point of throwing Clausen or Newton under the bus. His last 3 years have ruined his chances at a HOF career.”
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He did say something like “this isn’t Notre Dame” anymore at some point last year when asked about Jimmy Clausen.
But I wouldn’t hold it against him, like you said everyone has a breaking point and those comments seemed harmless to me, more like get your head straight kid…
May 6th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Guest123
“Those cheap options at WR, Stovall, Jacoby Jones, Doucett all have had issues with inconsistent hands. Do we really need another one of those types?”
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I need to chek, but I don’t think it’s the lack of hands keeping Stovall and Doucett down, they have other issues, but you’re right about Jacoby Jones, I’v seen some ugly drops from that kid, but he’s very talented and worth a flyer if the price is right IMO.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:39 am
From Stovall’s Wiki:
Regarding his college career at Notre Dame.
Stovall was remembered more for frequently dropping potential catches rather than the plays he made. This was noted not just by fans, but also by head coach Tyrone Willingham, who benched him for three games mid-season in 2004.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Early Doucett seems to have decent hands though. I take back what I said about him.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:43 am
“guest123 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
I think Ocho would be a good boy working his tail off for Hue Jackson. You wont find a more motivated WR than him, and he is humble now, coming off his “Ochostinko” season. He’s the guy we need to focus on. He won’t have any ridiculous demands for 90 balls or any of that. I think he’d love the Black Hole too.”
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You maybe right, I think 85 would be a huge hit with the fans and I’m sure the black hole would love this guy, can you imagine his celebrations over there?.
And he’ll provide this low-key Raiders team with a brash, entertaining personality, so the press would be all over him and off guys under some pressure like JC and the young WR’s….as a P.R. move it would be great and that alone might make the gamble worth as long as he brings decent production on the field and we are in the race, otherwise all the attention he garners will turn negative.
Definitely a move to be considered.
May 6th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Yeah, I could see Ocho in the Raider End Zone, breaking out a sharpie, taking the black hole to the IHOP and treating breakfast. He’s a character, but a positive one. He’s not in trouble with the law, and he’d be loved by the black hole and Raider Nation. He’d draw all the media attention away from JC and I am sure JC would like that.
I am feeling your vision on this Bob.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:06 am
That would be entertaining for sure, as long as everytime he catches a TD that it doesn’t turn ito a 15 yard excessive celebration penalty…one of the dumb rules…lol! Was it last year that we had one for having “more than one” player jump into the stands?
May 6th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Tell you what. If he catches a TD, and we have to give back 15 yards on the kickoff. I’d take that trade all day every day. Give me about 10-15 of those excessive celebrating penalties next year. j/k
May 6th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Now if we are looking for a mentor type I can’t think of a better player than Donald Driver, I’m sure he’s had a positive influence on Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson and James Jones.
A hard-working, self-made player with a few 1,000 yard seasons under his belt, he’s a guy who can teach our kids how to be a pro.
It would be hard to find room for him but if Chaz is not ready and needs to be on the PUP list again, I’d carry Driver alongside DHB, Murphy, Ford and Moore…and I would not surprised if he ended up starting for one last year.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Later fellas…
May 6th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Later Marley, thanks for stopping by.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Floyd would be a good addition – add some size, and he is speedy as well! But don’t rule out Mike Sims-Walker, he has the numbers that Big Al really likes, and he had a solid 2009 season, as well as he still produced better than the majority of our squad despite injuries in 2010.. Dont see him as a #1, but you never know..
May 6th, 2011 at 7:19 am
And Driver already won a SB last year…would be great to have him here.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Driver doesn’t have Raider Speed. I don’t see it ever happening. We could use a WR coach if he wants to apply.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:35 am
“We could use a WR coach”
You are dead on there Guest123
May 6th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Whaaaat? You mean you guys don’t think Sanjai Lal is doing a remarkable job? LOL
May 6th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Hwnrdr
I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning!
This has been a head scratcher for me for a long time now. There has to be someone out there that can help us with these young receivers.
May 6th, 2011 at 7:57 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Whaaaat? You mean you guys don’t think Sanjai Lal is doing a remarkable job? LOL
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Tell me that the most likely place for Sanjay if he was fired wouldn’t be night shift cash register at the Quik-E-Mart?
May 6th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:02 am
g’morn R8
May 6th, 2011 at 8:06 am
LOL @ Guest123
May 6th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Tim Brown will be our next WR coach… write that down. I am actually shocked that he isnt already.
Ochocinco’s most productive season as a pro came under Hue Jacksons coaching.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Tonight is the official death of the Lakers lol
May 6th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Bauce, we’ll make a bet for tonights game?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Yep chaz best years were with Hue and he respects Hue. Thats the key that many are missing. If Hue tells him I need you to be a leader here bet ya Chad embraces it and plus he is in Cali
May 6th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Chad*
May 6th, 2011 at 8:14 am
I say tonight is the night…if they lose tonight in Dallas, then its over (unless they can make a remarkable 4-0 reverse sweep like The Red Sox did against the Yankees, although I doubt it). However, if they take the next 2 in Dallas coming home…it will be Lakers and Thunder WCF. But…Artest being suspended and Matt Barnes starting it his place scares the heck out of me…
May 6th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Ray what are the stipulations?…..i am as shocked as ever they are down but glad too
May 6th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Although if they lose tonight…my basketball season is over…
May 6th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Barnes may be only dude who is as crazy as artest
May 6th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Lakers are on life support…..no camraderie no defense no outside shooting not enough depth kobe is on decline and phil cant wait to get back to having sex with his farm animals
May 6th, 2011 at 8:17 am
A case of beer to the opener…winner chooses!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Yes, Chad respects Hue, that’s why he put Hue in a headlock during a locker room meltdown a few years back. Then he tried to take a swing at Marvin Lewis.
He’s a headcase. Talented, but only when he wants to be. I’ll pass.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:20 am
No fear laker fans….dwight howard soon
May 6th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Lakers are on life support…..no camraderie no defense no outside shooting not enough depth kobe is on decline and phil cant wait to get back to having sex with his farm animals
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Bauce, you ever see the back side of a sheep?
lol..
May 6th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Ray….youre on….thats a bet
May 6th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Ray….naw my name isnt Phillip Rivers
May 6th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bauce,
How do you pretend to know who Ocho Sinco respects? You dont know the guy from Adam. Quit playing yourself off as some sort of authority on the mind of Chad Johnson. The guy is a selfish clubhouse cancer. After 3 weeks of playing with a bum like Campbell he will be screaming from the rooftops
May 6th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Actually hue put chad in the headlock…..old man strength
May 6th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Someone with the name of a scrub like Dan Land has zero credbility….please dont talk to me
May 6th, 2011 at 8:26 am
The Lakers are “done” EVERY time they lose a Playoff game…the haters are just waiting for them to slip…LOL. They will not fall to the F in Dallas Mavrecks, that much is fo sho.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Every version of the story I’ve read, Hue was the one in the headlock. So said Shaun Smith, anyway.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Ya we need a vet wr…wrong or right? the three names said on this blog plax smith and ocho all got headcase issues. we cant go with the current wrs again
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
517.guest123 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
I think Ocho would be a good boy working his tail off for Hue Jackson. You wont find a more motivated WR than him, and he is humble now, coming off his “Ochostinko” season. He’s the guy we need to focus on. He won’t have any ridiculous demands for 90 balls or any of that. I think he’d love the Black Hole too.
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Al Davis is not big on players that are media darlings, nor is he big on players that would become (in the media’s eyes) the face of the franchise.
For that reason (and the several young receivers already on the team that he wants on the field), I don’t see 85 ever wearing the Silver and Black.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:28 am
If Dwight Howard goes to the Lakers and get rid of Gasoft…I see another 3! LOL
May 6th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Whats that Bauce? I didnt catch your answer?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Now Pau is SOFT?? LOL! Fo sho…I mean the big softy only has 2 titles…back to back mind you. Soft? BRILLIANT!!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:31 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Ya we need a vet wr…wrong or right? the three names said on this blog plax smith and ocho all got headcase issues. we cant go with the current wrs again
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Again, that’s why I say Santana Moss. He’s coming off a 1,000-yard season, so he has at least a little left in the tank. He has extensive experience with Jason Campbell and Al Saunders. And he’s a guy who can accept a diminished role, which I don’t think Chad could. Al is going to want his young WRs on the field most of the time, so the vet who comes here is going to need to be more of a teacher than anything. Who better than a guy who already knows the OC and QB?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:31 am
YA……for those two to refer to each other as father and son means the respect is totally there
May 6th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Lol who is gonna order the snooze fest boxing match with pacquio and shane?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Dan…yes he does but right now his brother is killing it in Memphis and he has been playing like Gasoft these last 2 series. When he played like the Gasol of the last 2 years, Lakers won the game…I like Gasol, but not Gasoft! Thank goodness Bynum has been beasting it up lately! Remember, I said Gasoft, not Gasol!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Lol who is gonna order the snooze fest boxing match with pacquio and shane?
I may…to keep the Filipinos at home entertained…
May 6th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Santana Moss lol…..no way
May 6th, 2011 at 8:36 am
I like Bynum’s beasting in post game interviews lol
May 6th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Edward Teach Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Al Davis is not big on players that are media darlings, nor is he big on players that would become (in the media’s eyes) the face of the franchise.
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e.g. Randy Moss?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Hwnrdr,
I see you. He hasnt been great, thats truth. Im not real into #8 right now either…
May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Davis is not big on players that are media darlings, nor is he big on players that would become (in the media’s eyes) the face of the franchise.
For that reason (and the several young receivers already on the team that he wants on the field), I don’t see 85 ever wearing the Silver and Black
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So Al Davis is a megalomaniac who needs to hog the spotlight and be the face of the franchise? Even George Steinbrenner was smart enough to know that an octogenarian needs to put a fresh face forward. Al needs to be the monster behind the curtain, and hide in the shadows. He is the face of the franchise. Unfortunately, its a twisted, leprosy scrawled face with crazy eyes.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hwnrdr…..boxing died when tyson went to jail
May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Meant #24…not in 24
May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:31 am
YA……for those two to refer to each other as father and son means the respect is totally there
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Just wait for the first game where Chad doesn’t feel like the ball is coming his way enough.
He’s talked about how much he “respects” Marvin Lewis before, too. Doesn’t stop him from being a distraction literally every offseason.
Again, Moss is coming off a 1000-yard season. Can’t say that about Ochocinco. In fact, Carson Palmer actually looked better with Chad and TO out of the lineup.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Al will damn sure get a guy like Chad cuz he brings even more attention to raiders . Al likes that shhhht. Plus signing Chad also will sell more tickets. Who wouldnt wanna see a chad endzone celebration?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Again, Moss is coming off a 1000-yard season. Can’t say that about Ochocinco. In fact, Carson Palmer actually looked better with Chad and TO out of the lineup.
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Moss had 28 receptions for 393 yards last year.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Dan Land Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Hwnrdr,
I see you. He hasnt been great, thats truth. Im not real into #8 right now either…
I agree!
Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hwnrdr…..boxing died when tyson went to jail
Bauce, that is about the time I stopped watching…well, I had to watch his comeback against that Peter whatever dude…too funny!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:42 am
From NFL.com:
2010 Washington Redskins 16 16 93 1,115
May 6th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Carson Palmer lol….next
May 6th, 2011 at 8:45 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:42 am
From NFL.com:
2010 Washington Redskins 16 16 93 1,115
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I thought you were talking about Randy Moss. ok…
May 6th, 2011 at 8:45 am
For a few of those games, Moss had Rex Grossman throwing him the ball.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:46 am
YA it is widely known that even last year chad was attracting double teams….can u imagine our offense having that?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Good morning Raider Nation:
Just popping in to wish everyone a happy JaMancipation Day! This is the first anniversary of the day that the Raiders started the process of righting the ship. It’s was the day that Al was finally convinced to leave ghastly mistakes in the past and to take the necessary steps to move the team forward — the day that JaMarcus Russell was finally released.
We of Raider Nation are no longer under the oppressive shackles of forced ineptitude with undeserving starters at key positions. Let us celebrate our Jamancipation!
May 6th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I like that JaMancipation day.
But it is also a bitter reminder that this time last year, we already had our first weekend minicamp in the books. The clock is ticking……
May 6th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Santana is a hell no
May 6th, 2011 at 8:50 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:46 am
YA it is widely known that even last year chad was attracting double teams….can u imagine our offense having that?
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Yes, I can. Just like last season, he would start complaining about his role, his QB, the offense, etc. All the while keeping the young receivers off the field. Bengals went 4-12 last season, and their offense only took off in the last few games when Chad and TO were not around.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Lol zymurge
May 6th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Naw he wont…..cincy sucks man. that offense dipped for wrs as soon as hue bounced
May 6th, 2011 at 8:55 am
G’morn Bauce..
May 6th, 2011 at 8:55 am
So what’s up Gusty MR? Why the change? Are you hiding from something?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Keeping the young guys off the field is a good thing….no onee on our roster is a number 1 wr
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Rac, MR is Dust372 but her not here now.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Gotta disagree, man. There’s an organization that did everything it could to appease Chad, and every single year it blew up in their faces.
Not that it matters, because Al isn’t in the market for a veteran WR. He likes his young guys, and probably thinks this is DHB’s year.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Sup Mista…..u ready for another meltdown from MR and Kell?
May 6th, 2011 at 8:58 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Keeping the young guys off the field is a good thing….no onee on our roster is a number 1 wr
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Disagree on the first point, but agree on the second point.
Hopefully next season if a QB isn’t the first round pick, Michael Floyd will be.
May 6th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Chad was on best behavior in 09 and team did very well and he played well….they appeased Palmer more than Chad
May 6th, 2011 at 8:58 am
I’ll pass take a pass on S Moss too.
DHB, , JLH, C Shillens, N Miller, and L Murphy should all be on a VERY short leash. We are so thin @ WR!
May 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Lol how would you know if Al wasnt in market for a number one wr? Offense isnt complete until we get one and we dont have one
May 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Always.
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# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Sup Mista…..u ready for another meltdown from MR and Kell?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:01 am
From Twitter:
Jcampbell8 Jason Campbell
81 is doing great and getting healthy to have a great season yfrog.com/gyas1dcj yfrog.com/gygq7myj yfrog.com/h7psrpbdj
May 6th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Kell was his usual pitiful self last nitw….wont lie i do enjoy when bhp and kell are going at it
May 6th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Chaz is doing great? YA then he took a step and snapped his twat muscle
May 6th, 2011 at 9:04 am
What else would Campbell say ? Get off twitter and lose the maxi pad.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Chaz getting healthy still lol
May 6th, 2011 at 9:04 am
For the record:
I’d love for Al to sign 85
I’d be ok with Smith, but he can go play for SD.
I’d love to have Floyd, except he’s too expensive.
I’d love to see DHB given a short preseason leash to prove himself or get cut.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:05 am
lol @609
May 6th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Chaz prolly like Larry Flynt in a wheelchair and shhht
May 6th, 2011 at 9:06 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Chaz is doing great? YA then he took a step and snapped his twat muscle
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Would not surprise me to see his foot literally fall off the moment he steps on the field.
Shame. Some guys just aren’t built for football. All the skill in the world, but seemingly made of glass. Would love to be wrong about that.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:06 am
When tj and KK swing @ each other like 2 kitty cats in heat there’s nothing more entertaining.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:07 am
DHB couldnt catch AIDS in the village
May 6th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Chaz has done almost nothing in his career but gets mad love from the Nations derelicts.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Lol Kell not swinging at anyone….he cant even stand up to his wife
May 6th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Chaz is an urban legend that mythbusters proved to be false.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Chaz=jerry porter…….just nada when its all said and done
May 6th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The funniest thing about DHB is that never have I seen a faster guy look so slow on the field.
Then there’s guys like Davone Bess and Hakeem Nicks, who can catch and run AND be deep threats. They ran 4.5+.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Chaz is ok when he on field but nation’s fav player was Justin Farglass….the UFL legend
May 6th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Norleans has a buttload of WR’s all home grown and we have a buttload of garbage.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Sadly, Chaz played for two games last season and had as many TDs as DHB.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Thing about Bess and Nicks. They have instincts, know how to move and when to move, torque their torsos to square up for the ball. It’s a thing of beauty to watch them go up for the ball.
DHB looks like a converted track star who needs glasses or contacts to be able to track the flight of the ball. And his tiny hands can’t catch anything unless he is holding them 6 inches in front of his upper ribcage, with feet on the ground.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:16 am
A veteran WR or a legitimate WR coach.
You cant have a roster full of young unexperienced WR’s with Sanjay as their coach.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Will Hue let SeaPerch go without competition like all his predecessors and cost us 2 games before the bye again?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:17 am
This draft classs is better than I thought as well RR I studied some of these kids after we got them and man I’m impressed with them. TJ is flat out playmaker, so is DMoore and i’ve always liked DVD. Both Olineman need strength training and they could be very good. But it looks to be a stronger draft than I first thought.
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TJ #451,
I like Wiz & Chewy the most. Barks & DVD may not mature enough to be impact players until Year #3, but the potential is there
May 6th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I was hoping the Raiders would “reach” for Nicks or Harvin over Crabtree. Instead the reached for DHB. I’ll never forget how bewildered I was that draft day. Since then I’ve learned to get drunk BEFORE the draft, not during/after.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:19 am
DHB = Raghib Ismail
Chaz = Samuel Jackson in Unbreakable
Sanjay = on Scholarship
May 6th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Looking forward to seeing what Chekwa has. Hopefully he can contribute right away.
Would love to see Walt step up, though.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Psh, I would love to see DHB match Ismail’s production. Or James Jett’s for that matter. So far he isn’t even close.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Just watched the Youtube video on Barksdale vs Texas A&M and he blocked Von Miller 1 on 1 several times and flat stoned him. He also blocked their #77 and the guy couldn’t get off the LOS they also tried #11 and #8 on Barksdale and nobody beat this kid. 2000 said he does get to the second level very well and I saw different in that game he’s a good athlete gets on 2nd easy and makes contact.
I would draft this kid just on that video alone if you know anything about VMiller you know blocking that kid 1 on 1 aint easy. He locked him up. When they flipped Von to the other side he was dynamic. I’ve seen this kid vs Bama and A&M and he is impressive. I can’t uunderstand scouts not seeing this kid. I watched Gabe Carimi and NO ONE can tell me that Carimi is a better OT than Barksdale I’ll argue that point with anyone. His feet are far superior to Carimi. And he steers about as well takes great angles and stays very square. I’m not sure what the scouts saw or didn’;t like about this kid but I’m telling you Barksdale can play……………period
May 6th, 2011 at 9:23 am
tj the clown, whats good foo?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:24 am
tj nobody’s opinion on Raider draft picks matters less that yours but we all appreciate your efforts….period
May 6th, 2011 at 9:25 am
I was hoping the Raiders would “reach” for Nicks or Harvin over Crabtree. Instead the reached for DHB. I’ll never forget how bewildered I was that draft day. Since then I’ve learned to get drunk BEFORE the draft, not during/after.
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I remember I was relaxing in the pool, watching the draft on a Saturday afternoon, awaiting the pick. I never swear in front of my kids. I don’t know…I just lost it. %^&%^&!!! Muth %^&$% Al Davis (*^&*^ you! God &*^^&%!!!
and FU too DHB
I came to my senses and apologized to the kids, bribed them not to tell on me to their mom.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Breaking down youtube video’s = hilarious
tj, were you able to take a peek any still photo’s on our picks ?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:28 am
DHB is going to be a solid #4 WR for us.
Probably the best in the league.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:29 am
if JC can just be a stabilizing influence on this team he doesn’t have to be great, he has to manage games. Don’t turn it over and make a couple of stick throws this team can got to the bowl in the next two years. I think we can win one if JC can be in the top 12 QB’s in this league
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TJ #463
Top 6 in the AFC are Brady, Manning, Rivers, Big Ben, Schaub & Flacco.
Followed by Cassel, Palmer, Orton, Garrard, Fitzpatrick & Sanchez.
Top 6 in the NFC are Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Vick, Manning & Freeman.
Followed by McNabb, Romo, Cutler, Hasselbeck, Bradford & Stafford.
Jason Campbell seems like a second tier QB in either division … If he had the potential to become a Top 12 NFL QB I don’t think Washington would have traded him for a 2012 4th rounder and I’m sure we would have seen a few glimpses of greatness during his first 6 NFL seasons!
May 6th, 2011 at 9:30 am
The best WR#4 in the league? I can’t seem to get any bearings on that reference. Is there an almanac that compares #4’s?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Chaz = Samuel Jackson in Unbreakable
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bwahahahahahahaha!
good one, Silver
May 6th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I think it was sarcasm.
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# guest123 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:30 am
The best WR#4 in the league? I can’t seem to get any bearings on that reference. Is there an almanac that compares #4’s?
May 6th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Ford
Moore
Murphy
Chaz
DHB
Not bad at all.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Jason Campbell seems like a second tier QB in either division … If he had the potential to become a Top 12 NFL QB I don’t think Washington would have traded him for a 2012 4th rounder and I’m sure we would have seen a few glimpses of greatness during his first 6 NFL seasons!
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Say it ain’t so. This is Jim Plunkett reincarneted we are talking about here!
May 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Compared to what ?
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# J Hill Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Ford
Moore
Murphy
Chaz
DHB
Not bad at all.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I’d say the Raiders should use DHB on screens to take advantage of his speed, but if he drops it and the refs rule the pass went backwards….
May 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am
D.H. Bust is a disaster.
I watched ten minutes of film and could tell that Crabtree was a better receiver.
Straight ahead speed means nothing compared to lateral quickness, and you have to be able to catch the football. Davis is an idiot.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:34 am
he doesn’t have to be great, he has to manage games. Don’t turn it over and make a couple of stick throws
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Exactly.
Anyone expecting more from Campbell is not being realistic.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:34 am
637.guest123 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:25 am
I was hoping the Raiders would “reach” for Nicks or Harvin over Crabtree. Instead the reached for DHB. I’ll never forget how bewildered I was that draft day. Since then I’ve learned to get drunk BEFORE the draft, not during/after.
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I remember I was relaxing in the pool, watching the draft on a Saturday afternoon, awaiting the pick. I never swear in front of my kids. I don’t know…I just lost it. %^&%^&!!! Muth %^&$% Al Davis (*^&*^ you! God &*^^&%!!!
and FU too DHB
I came to my senses and apologized to the kids, bribed them not to tell on me to their mom.
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I remember I was at my brothers house that morning, after long night of playing poker and my cousin was there also.
We ALL were saying that the worse case scenario would be if the Raiders picked DHB at #7 and the old man better not do it. We were all saying that if he wanted him that bad, then trade the hell down.
And guess what…the worst case scenario occured, DHB was picked and we were all pissed the rest of the day and we didn’t even bother watching the rest of the draft.
The draft was over as far as we were concerned.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:35 am
RR what’s so special about Cassell and Orton and Garrard, Fitzpatrick. I think Campbell is every bit as good as those guys right now. Out of all those names I see maybe 8-10 truely great QB’s the rest are up and down and pretty good if you don’t think Campbell is as good Garrard, Orton or Cassell your not paying attention.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:36 am
646.MistaBrown Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Compared to what ?
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# J Hill Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Ford
Moore
Murphy
Chaz
DHB
Not bad at all.
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Plus I think Ausberry will be able to to compete as big possestion WR and TE at times.
That dude is a BEAST.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
I remember I was at my brothers house that morning, after long night of playing poker and my cousin was there also.
We ALL were saying that the worse case scenario would be if the Raiders picked DHB at #7 and the old man better not do it. We were all saying that if he wanted him that bad, then trade the hell down.
And guess what…the worst case scenario occured, DHB was picked and we were all pissed the rest of the day and we didn’t even bother watching the rest of the draft.
The draft was over as far as we were concerned.
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At least we got Murph in round 4. That was a nice consolation prize. Since you didn’t watch the rest of the draft, here’s what you missed. Trent Dilfer, Suzie Colber, Shannon Sharpe acting like punk teenagers high on crack laughing at the Raiders picks.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:38 am
My apartment was right next door to a bar at the time. Super convenient that day. As soon as the pick was announced, I walked out the door and right into Paddy’s and got myself good and faced. Luckily the Bulls-Celtics game was on at the time so at least I could immerse myself in that.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I like Ausberry’s potential. Could be a beast inside the 5 yard line. All he really has to do is get a little body position on those tiny (in comparison) DBs.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:40 am
RR what’s so special about Cassell and Orton and Garrard, Fitzpatrick. I think Campbell is every bit as good as those guys right now. Out of all those names I see maybe 8-10 truely great QB’s the rest are up and down and pretty good if you don’t think Campbell is as good Garrard, Orton or Cassell your not paying attention.
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Yeah, the whole group is average. Not bumping up Campbell. It’s just the next “tier” is nothing special. Some quality journeymen QB’s.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Compared to what ?
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Compared to the last few years WR depth chart.
I’m assuming the reports on Moore are correct and he is someone who means we no longer have to rely on Chaz. Murphy and DHB sliding down the depth chart also helps us. No JLH and no Nicky Miller on my depth chart either.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Ford
Moore
Murphy
Chaz
DHB
Not bad at all.
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Go take this list/message to any NFL blog/board and they will laugh you out of the room.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I’m not sure about Moore. If he sticks, he’s not going to make a rookie impact like Ford did. He’s pretty average at everything and a sloppy route runner. He does have good hands, but I question his ability to get separation, as he doesn’t possess world class speed, or moves.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:45 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The funniest thing about DHB is that never have I seen a faster guy look so slow on the field.
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IMO, this is what NFL personnel and scouts need to start doing when evaluating how fast a player is.
Start timing them and hold private workouts in PADS!
What a concept huh? You would figure these people who get paid a crap load of money to evaluate talent would work prospects out with freakin PADS on and not just in shorts and a tank top.
Evaluate game film, interview them to see where there head is at, due background checks and workout them out privately in PADS!
May 6th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Trent Dilfer, Suzie Colber, Shannon Sharpe acting like punk teenagers high on crack laughing at the Raiders picks.
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Actually it was Chris Carter and Tom Jackson laughing and clowing with Suzie. The worst part about that was DHB was live with his family. Very unprofessional.
Terrible pick, but to do that in front of his family was eff’d up.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:47 am
653.guest123 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
I remember I was at my brothers house that morning, after long night of playing poker and my cousin was there also.
We ALL were saying that the worse case scenario would be if the Raiders picked DHB at #7 and the old man better not do it. We were all saying that if he wanted him that bad, then trade the hell down.
And guess what…the worst case scenario occured, DHB was picked and we were all pissed the rest of the day and we didn’t even bother watching the rest of the draft.
The draft was over as far as we were concerned.
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At least we got Murph in round 4. That was a nice consolation prize. Since you didn’t watch the rest of the draft, here’s what you missed. Trent Dilfer, Suzie Colber, Shannon Sharpe acting like punk teenagers high on crack laughing at the Raiders picks.
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Oh the one who pissed me off the most was Chris Carter. He as acting like an unprofessional jackazz!
May 6th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Campbell is more mobile than Orton or Cassell but I would have to agree that he is as good or the equivalent of Garrard……..and did you see who Jacksonville drafted with their first pick……Garrard’s replacement.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:55 am
that’s right it was Cris Carter. I was thinking Shannon Sharpe. But I know tht Trent Dilfer was clowning us as well.
I used to like Trent. I spit at the screen anytime he’s on anymore. I won’t ever live that BS down.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Zymurge Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Good morning Raider Nation:
Just popping in to wish everyone a happy JaMancipation Day! This is the first anniversary of the day that the Raiders started the process of righting the ship.
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Ah yes…..one religion has Passover, and Raider Nation can celebrate PassOverthrown day today.
May 6th, 2011 at 9:55 am
666
May 6th, 2011 at 10:03 am
If a pick is a terrbile pick (as the DHB pick was) those guys job is to ridicule.
Tebow was live with his family, and Mel Kiper talked about him never being an NFL QB for about 30 minutes last year.
Comes with the territory.
What would have been unprofessional, would have been for all the analysts to bite their tongue because they would worry about hurting Grandma Heyward-Bey’s feelings.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:04 am
JFB,
What do you think of Wiz and C and Barksdale at RT?
May 6th, 2011 at 10:07 am
The laughing and clowning around was unprofessional. No explaining that away. Asking tough question, critical commentary I have no problem with.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:03 am
If a pick is a terrbile pick (as the DHB pick was) those guys job is to ridicule.
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I don’t blame them for saying that…it was a terrible pick imo!
May 6th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Good News
The South Florida South-Sentinel “hears” that the Redskins are the front-runners for Vince Young’s services this offseason.
Source: RW
May 6th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Dell, if you read this….
HELLS BELLS
May 6th, 2011 at 10:25 am
“Good News
The South Florida South-Sentinel “hears” that the Redskins are the front-runners for Vince Young’s services this offseason”
yeah thats good news if your an Eagles, Giants or Cowboys fan!
May 6th, 2011 at 10:27 am
661.DKnight007 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:45 am
YoungAmerican Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The funniest thing about DHB is that never have I seen a faster guy look so slow on the field.
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IMO, this is what NFL personnel and scouts need to start doing when evaluating how fast a player is.
Start timing them and hold private workouts in PADS!
What a concept huh? You would figure these people who get paid a crap load of money to evaluate talent would work prospects out with freakin PADS on and not just in shorts and a tank top.
Evaluate game film, interview them to see where there head is at, due background checks and workout them out privately in PADS!
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I believe that DHB simply lacks self confidence or has to think too much on the field. Once he gets that squared away he will look much better….oh yeah, and after the hand transplant.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Meh…my Lake Show can’t win the title every year I guess.
They will reload with D Howard or Chris Paul.
They need a point guard badly though. D Fish is on his last legs and is a backup at best right now.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
The only way you see how fast a guy is in a game is put him in a game. Putting them in pads wont change much because they can train for that too. The rest of your requirements they do that and a lot more. If you guys could see what teams go through to evaluate players you wouldn’t even question what teams and scouts do. It’s more thorough than anything you can imagine especially higher rated players. People who think players get drafted on combine 40 times just have no clue. IT’s a 100x’s more complex and involved than that.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Lets take a look back at the 2009 draft. It was a pretty good draft when you think about it: Commentary is all just my opinion.
Round 1: Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR – Maryland
First round bust, another Al Davis embarrassment. Lacks instincts and is not an NFL receiver by any stretch.
Round 2: Mike Mitchell – S – Ohio
Roundly panned pick, but Mitchell has improved vastly and has become an enforcer over the middle.
Round 3: Matt Shaughnessy – DE – Wisconsin
Maybe the best pick of this draft, Anchors the right end spot and as effective against the run and provide plenty of pressure on the pocket.
Round 4: Louis Murphy – WR – Florida.
Another good pick. Murphy has flashed some great potential and is becoming a polished vet.
Round 4: Slade Norris – OLB – Oregon State
No longer on team.
Round 5 pick: traded away
Round 6: Stryker Sulak – No longer on team.
Round 6: Brandon Myers – TE – Iowa
Another gem! Myers has done a fine job as #2 TE, and on special teams blocking a key kick in the first game against San Diego.
From that draft, we got a solid starting DE, WR…reserve TE, and S. Not a bad haul. Yet everyone focuses on DHBust.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:35 am
JFB,
What do you think of Wiz and C and Barksdale at RT?
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I really hope Wiz plays at least a half of each preseason game, since he hasn’t lined up at center in 18 months, and only 1 year out of the last 5.
I like the whole idea of having someone named Barksdale manning the corner (Wire reference) but I think that dude is a slug.
Super-smart dude, that is kind of weird and frustrating due to his not reaching his max talent.
Think Kwame Harris 2.0
May 6th, 2011 at 10:37 am
I really don’t want VY, but if we signed him, it would be obvious that Al has realized what I have been trying to tell him for awhile.
Soup isn’t going to win anything for the Raiders.
The sooner the org understands this, the better off we will be.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Raiders continue to be suckers for speed!
Raiders still hope high-speed athletes lead to higher win total
By Pat Kirwan NFL.com
Senior Analys
Demarcus Van Dyke had the fastest 40-yard dash time at the NFL Scouting Combine. Chimdi Chekwa had the third-fastest 40 time among defensive backs. Taiwan Jones was the fastest running back in the draft. Wide receivers Denarius Moore and David Ausberry weren’t exactly slow with sub-4.5 40 times. When you take all of that into consideration, it
begs the question: Can you build a team strictly on speed?
May 6th, 2011 at 10:39 am
DHB may yet surprise a lot of people including me. Hard work solves a lot of problems and the kid works very hard at being good. At the combine he caught everything and looked smooth doing it. They brought him to Alameda I believe twice and he looked good.
I think once DHB is able to get past the mental hurdle he’ll be fine. Plus he needs to be more aggressive in his route running he gets knocked off his routes way to often which affects the timing of a play.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:40 am
maybe on vince young not so sure if he could handle us fans
May 6th, 2011 at 10:42 am
682.priesttj Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:39 am
DHB may yet surprise a lot of people including me. Hard work solves a lot of problems and the kid works very hard at being good. At the combine he caught everything and looked smooth doing it. They brought him to Alameda I believe twice and he looked good.
I think once DHB is able to get past the mental hurdle he’ll be fine. Plus he needs to be more aggressive in his route running he gets knocked off his routes way to often which affects the timing of a play.
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I agree. DHB seems like he is driven to succeed, so that alone should net him another year or two of time. Doesn’t mean he should be starting if he can’t get the job done, but no need to give him the Russell heave-ho either.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:44 am
If Barksdale is manning the corner, the Wire quotes will be flying from this side of the table.
“I’m not a businessman like you. I’m just an old gangster, I suppose. BUT I WANT MY CORNERS.”
May 6th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Pat Kirwin acts like none of them played a down of football………….lol Chekwa started 3 straight years at OSU and these kids were starters at their respective programs for multiple years. How is that biulding solely on speed. That is ridiculous if they couldn’t play why were they rated so high by Blesto and National that is just dumb. These kids can all play football…………….period
Just because a kid has track speed doesn’t mean HE CAN’T PLAY!!! that assumption is ridiculous. CWood and Nnamdi ran in the 4.3’s ande they’re slotted for the HOF………….Deion Sanders ran faster than anyone, can he play?
May 6th, 2011 at 10:48 am
676.DKnight007 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Meh…my Lake Show can’t win the title every year I guess.
They will reload with D Howard or Chris Paul.
They need a point guard badly though. D Fish is on his last legs and is a backup at best right now.
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After I broke my TV remote my wife said this was nothing a little 4 game win streak couldn’t solve. Yeah right, lol….you never know I guess.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I don’t think DVD had the collegiate career anywhere close to Deion and CWood.
Every fast DB Al drafts, we all hope turns out like Nnamdi, but most of them turn out to be Jerome Boyd.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:49 am
DHB sucks we could have had crabtree percy harvin jermy maclin
May 6th, 2011 at 10:50 am
big oak boy Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:49 am
DHB sucks we could have had crabtree percy harvin jermy maclin
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not to mention Haheem Nicks
May 6th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Dakota Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:48 am
676.DKnight007 Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Meh…my Lake Show can’t win the title every year I guess.
They will reload with D Howard or Chris Paul.
They need a point guard badly though. D Fish is on his last legs and is a backup at best right now.
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After I broke my TV remote my wife said this was nothing a little 4 game win streak couldn’t solve. Yeah right, lol….you never know I guess.
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They will reload with Paul and Howard…dump Artest, Fish, Blake, Walton!
May 6th, 2011 at 10:52 am
DHB would never surprise me. If he succeeds, he’d outright shock me. You can’t teach instincts and he wasn’t born with them. While we waste time spoon feeding him on how to be an NFL WR, we patiently wait for another offseason.
May 6th, 2011 at 10:56 am
I don’t think DVD had the collegiate career anywhere close to Deion and CWood.
dvd will have alot of picks next yr that 4.28 will let him makeup for his bad habbits rod will coach him up well and he will add about 15 lbs of muscle
May 6th, 2011 at 10:58 am
DVD has the speed no doubt. But he needs to bulk up. He’s a wet noodle. Stick legs. He could only do 5 reps on the bench.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:01 am
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is “pretty positive” that the Broncos will end up trading Kyle Orton this year.
The only true vacancies are in Arizona and D.C., though Orton could be brought in for competition in Miami, Seattle, Minnesota, Tennessee, Carolina, and Cincinnati. Mort is guessing that a third- to fifth-round pick would do the trick.
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I would definetley use a 3rd round pick on a solid backup qb.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Ha ha. Fake show fans giving up already.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:03 am
is the 8th circuts ruling due today
May 6th, 2011 at 11:03 am
If the Fakers aren’t dominating they’re crying. No heart. Angelinos for you.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:06 am
This blog is dead, Jerry. 700 comments of topic from your current blog entry. It’s spam. Just pull the plug on this morgue.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Ha ha. Fake show fans giving up already.
real fans never give up lakeshow till the end but i noticed the slacking when they lost to golden state
May 6th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Angelinos have no heart. If LA teams don’t dominate, fans run off crying.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:10 am
PFT website has been down all day now I have no news on which bored athlete is tweeting their ignorance today.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Basketball is a pathetic distraction during the off season I would rather watch womens curling.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:18 am
576.r8eray Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Edward Teach Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Al Davis is not big on players that are media darlings, nor is he big on players that would become (in the media’s eyes) the face of the franchise.
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e.g. Randy Moss?
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Randy Moss wasn’t a media darling, nor was he a self-promoter like Ochocinco. He has been known as a malcontent, but was never a self-promoter the magnitude of 85. Randy Moss was brought in because he was an unbelievable talent. The experiment failed, for a number of reasons, but there is no comparison between Randy Moss and Chad Ochocinco (on or off the field), especially this late in Ochocinco’s career. As we all saw when Moss went to the Patriots, he still had plenty left in the tank.
It should also be noted that the last couple of years have evidenced a reluctance on Davis’ part to bring in the me-first players that he was so notorious for seeking out in the past.
Chad Ochocinco isn’t going to be an Oakland Raider.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:19 am
This Laker Fan is also a Raider Fan…so I’m used to it!
I’m still representing…. !!
May 6th, 2011 at 11:20 am
is that ruling due today if so i hope the 8th circut guys are football fans
May 6th, 2011 at 11:21 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/06/kaepernick-sees-open-competition-at-quarterback/
Its up’n runnin…
May 6th, 2011 at 11:23 am
“It should also be noted that the last couple of years have evidenced a reluctance on Davis’ part to bring in the me-first players that he was so notorious for seeking out in the past.”
This is a great point and one that I have been chastised for making in here.
No way VY or Ocho comes to Oakland I don’t care if 85 was breast feed from Hue’s wife, its not going to happen.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:29 am
No way VY or Ocho comes to Oakland I don’t care if 85 was breast feed from Hue’s wife, its not going to happen.
we will see this might be the rope to hang hue if it dosent work
May 6th, 2011 at 11:37 am
I hope the 8th circuit court are friends of labor.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:39 am
“we will see this might be the rope to hang hue if it dosent work”
I could see Al playing hangman on his overhead projector!
May 6th, 2011 at 11:41 am
The only free agent I’m holding out hope for is Harvey Dahl. Could be a Cooper Carlisle-like signing. Perfect fit for a new(ish) blocking scheme, and would be a mainstay on the offensive line for the next five years.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Racist pigs thought Hines Ward stole a car. Cuffed him, cause he “fit the description”
May 6th, 2011 at 11:52 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
OchoJohnson?? His all-world talents would be a welcome addition…and I think he’s a LITTLE more mature than a few years ago…but, anyone who thinks Chad is or will be humble would be incorrect. We’re talking about one of the most egocentric/driven personalities in NFL history. Would I put him on the Team? You bet…and hope he would be old/wise enough to know beating-up JCampbell won’t get him anywhere.
Problem is…like Ed Teach said earlier…as soon as the prima donna Ocho shows up, will everybody around him be able to handle it?
A vet with talent like OchoJohnson would be mighty tough to pass on, if he comes at a reasonable price. HOF talent right there.
Steve Smith?? As much attitude, hotter temper. HOF talent as well, but different style. Give me a OchoJohnson over a Steve Smith…but I wouldn’t say no to Smith either.
A HEALTHY, QUALITY, veteran is just what this O needs to make it dangerous at all times. Unless Denarius Moore (and DHB) are ready to take a superstar’s role.
The Raiders NEED #1-like production from ANYONE in the WR corps. Denarius Moore just exudes football smarts, with natural skills…he may be the DHB we’ve been waiting for, before DHB becomes that guy.
May 6th, 2011 at 11:53 am
687.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I don’t think DVD had the collegiate career anywhere close to Deion and CWood.
Every fast DB Al drafts, we all hope turns out like Nnamdi, but most of them turn out to be Jerome Boyd.
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Should have had MATTHEWS! He is was right there in Al’s face and he says….”who is the next CB that is not rated higher than Matthews and I will take him”.
Stupid. Matthews would have competed for the WILL OLB spot and could have contributed really well in 3-4 nickel and dime packages potentially and on special teams. They could have signed a backup CB for depth purposes instead of drafting another one.
Ugh
May 6th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Hayes, imagine if everyone posted long comments like that? Would you read all of them? Of course you wouldn’t. So why do you expect everyone to read yours?
May 6th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Anyone expecting more from Campbell is not being realistic
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2387 yards, 14 TD’s & 9 turnovers
Completion Percentage of 59. QB Rating of 85
We shouldn’t expect anything more from JCamp?
Then why did we fire Cable, Tollner & Hackett?
May 6th, 2011 at 11:59 am
what’s so special about Cassell and Orton and Garrard, Fitzpatrick. I think Campbell is every bit as good as those guys right now
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TJ, exactly.
He’s not any better than those guys, either.
thats my point. thats the problem
May 6th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Everybody can keep doubting the DVD pick, also…but he might be one of those “steals” everybody talks about soon enough. He is fast, coordinated, fast, runs well, he’s fast, reacts to the ball with great instincts, is very fast, covers well & reads/reacts naturally, he’s a fast runner, catches well, and he’s pretty quick, if I didn’t mention it earlier.
DVD has mad athletic skills like Taiwan Jones does…and he might be a better coverage guy than even “our” own scouts believe. “Reaches” like DVD and TaiJones have waaay more up sides than down…since relatively few think they’ll pan-out anyway.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Should have had MATTHEWS! He is was right there in Al’s face and he says….”who is the next CB that is not rated higher than Matthews and I will take him”.
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DK007,
Groves > Matthews III
Print That!
May 6th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Hayes Daze does not read any long comments. I guarantee it. But he expects you to read his. Elitist much?
May 6th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
bloodlines don’t mean everything …
Casey Matthews will not be like his father, brother or uncle imo
I don’t think he’ll be an upgrade over guys like Stewart Bradley, Omar Gaither, Akeem Jordan or Ernie Sims (who will all be leaving Philly this offseason)
May 6th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
659.guest123 Says:
I’m not sure about Moore. If he sticks, he’s not going to make a rookie impact like Ford did. He’s pretty average at everything and a sloppy route runner. He does have good hands, but I question his ability to get separation, as he doesn’t possess world class speed, or moves.
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A sloppy route runner?? Who just seems to find ways to get open…and when he’s double-teamed, goes up and catches the ball with intentions like Dennis Rodman going after a rebound. Or…like Tim Brown #81 would do for us not too long ago…go up…and catch the ball.
Denarius Moore looks pretty good, as rookie receivers go…he’s a lot more polished a receiver coming out of college than a lot of others drafted (and not just by the Raiders).
Somethings in football aren’t taught so easily…and the Raiders are actually picking players not only with speed, but who actually know how to play the game.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I don’t think Matthews is going to be like his brother. He is not as big or atheltic, but I would take a lighter version of Clay which Casey is any day of the week for his football IQ, natural instincts and hard work anyday of the week ahead of another CB.
Doesn’t matter now though. Lets hope Chekwa turns out to be more of a contributor than Matthews winds up being or I, along with other Raider fans will be pissed.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I think Moore will develop nicely here just like Ford.
We need Chaz, Murphy and DHB to step if the hell up next year….badly! Muprhy needs to work harder this offseason, instead of acting like a jackazz.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
We shouldn’t expect anything more from JCamp?
Then why did we fire Cable, Tollner & Hackett?
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Because we expect more from our HC, QB Coach, and PGC.
Not to mention the Oline and the WRs.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
719.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Should have had MATTHEWS! He is was right there in Al’s face and he says….”who is the next CB that is not rated higher than Matthews and I will take him”.
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DK007,
Groves > Matthews III
Print That!
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Now maybe….but in 2 or 3 years?
We’ll see….
May 6th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
725.J Hill Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
We shouldn’t expect anything more from JCamp?
Then why did we fire Cable, Tollner & Hackett?
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Because we expect more from our HC, QB Coach, and PGC.
Not to mention the Oline and the WRs.
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Should have kept Tollner as the WR coach ahead of Lal. Tollner knows more about coaching WR’s and route running more than Lal will ever know in his life IMO.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Lal seemed to do pretty well with Jacoby Ford. Might have saved his job.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
JFB,
Kwame Harris ?????
Well, I thought that Harris should have been playing RT all along, but your boy Cable thought he would make a fine ZBS LT. Harris couldn’t handle speed rushers. Barksdale on the right side shouldn’t be a problem.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
dARKKNIGHT,
U didnt know Darnarious Moore from Mary Tyler Moore before the Raiders drafted him…Now your spoutin off about how good the kid will be?? If he was such a sure thing prospect he wouldve been a first rounder
May 6th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
LOL!!!! Now JHill knows Barksdale like the back of his hand?? You guys are too much. Every year its the same song and dance after the draft…EVERYBODYS and expert on ALL the picks and ALL the picks are future HOFers.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Problem with the younger Matthews is his size. His heart and desire are big enough…but his inability to carry much more bulk will hurt him. He’s not as strong as the competition he’ll be fending off, and he’s going to be hammered…but, he will be quick. Dunno if he’ll have a enough quickness and instincts to overcome superior strength by elite athletes. Even perfect techniques get squashed by bigger athletes.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
730.Dan Land Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
dARKKNIGHT,
U didnt know Darnarious Moore from Mary Tyler Moore before the Raiders drafted him…Now your spoutin off about how good the kid will be?? If he was such a sure thing prospect he wouldve been a first rounder
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I never though they would take a WR like him in the 5th. He was Tenn best playmaker at the WR postion.
What do you want me to say, that he looks like crap?? I don’t think he looks like crap from the games and videos I have seen of him and more importantly he can catch the ball!
May 6th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
730.Dan Land Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
dARKKNIGHT,
U didnt know Darnarious Moore from Mary Tyler Moore before the Raiders drafted him…Now your spoutin off about how good the kid will be?? If he was such a sure thing prospect he wouldve been a first rounder
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When did I say how good he was going to be? I said he has a chance to be a play maker and develop just like Ford did last year.
May 6th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Maybe you werent the one saying hes headed to canton Darky….my B
May 6th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Smellin’ mighty troll-like in here…multiple personalities a-lurkin’…
NFL Football in 2011!
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
May 6th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Always has been and always will be Hayesdaze37!
afternoon Jhill, Daze, and Dknight007
Been awhile….oh well…. anyway just dropped by 2say that as much as I woulda liked 2have Mack last year, I’m very happy wid the pick of the Wizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
May 6th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Came 2 a huge realization with the Break-U-Jaw head coach of ours….
Big Al wanted 2win at all costs with ja-scittles-syurp.Cable saw and knew that was impossible and played the best QB,Grads The Great.Simple.
well seems Big Al didnt like that and went and picked up JCampbell 4a a stooooopid amount of cash.Well Cable knew that 4whatever reason knew Grads was our best chance of winning.Simple again!
Well well well….
IMO Big Al got rid of the best coach we had since Tom Flores….
The PLAYERS BELIEVED IN TOM CABLE AND IT SHOWED.
Simple
May 6th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Really like Taiwan but he is not as explosive as CJ2K
May 6th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Does anyone here believe Al Davis is going to open the 2011 season with Campbell and Boller as the only 2 QBs on the roster ?
I can’t imagine the Raids not carrying 3 QBs.
It’s almost a certainty the Raids sign a FA QB.
Frye might attempt a comeback. Grads isn’t entirely out of the picture.
If it’s not one of those 2, then who should the Raids target ?
VY, DM, CP, MB are the big names.
Could even be an UDFA, although this is a longshot.
The addition of another QB to the roster is essential and will turn out to be the most important move the Raids make before the season begins.
Whoever it is, better be ready – because JaJason Cantball sucks.
May 6th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Still mourning Tom Cable? He is a bum Rock….
May 6th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Matt Leinart? Not my choice, but I could see it happening.
May 6th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
i like the idea of pat devlin. we have 2 vets and we need a developmental guy. i’m gonna rub it in when campbell starts putting up big numbers next year and winning games for us. maybe it’s wishful thinking, but when i watch highlights i really like what i see. sure some bad games, but lots of upside in 2nd year as starter.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
QBs who aren’t coming to Oakland:
Vince Young
Carson Palmer
Mark Bulger
Kevin Kolb
Donnovan McNabb
May 6th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Hue Jackson wants a young guy, so look for Devlin or Portis as likely candidates once a CBA is reached. Devlin is a Delaware product (Hue’s had some success with another kid from Delaware), and Portis worked out for the Raiders pre-draft.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTBqfzFjPGI&feature=related
3:11 made Al question his ED
May 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Hue Jackson wants a young guy, so look for Devlin or Portis as likely candidates once a CBA is reached. Devlin is a Delaware product (Hue’s had some success with another kid from Delaware), and Portis worked out for the Raiders pre-draft.
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What about trying to get Josh Johnson from TB
May 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I like Josh Johnson a lot, actually. He and Seneca Wallace would both be quality backups. Johnson has a bit more upside, though.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
4eva!!!!!
How’s it going man?
May 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Apparently TB is pretty high on him as Freeman’s backup, though. Not sure what it would take to pry him away from them.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Tom Cable as a Raider HC went 9-6 in our division (including 4-1 against Denver) beat SD for the first time in years, and constantly had our team in the upper echelon of running attacks, although having complete garbage for a QB.
The man had his limitations, but he produced while here.
Hue will have to average around 140 yards a game rushing, and continue to win over 60% of his division games to be an improvement.
Can be done, but won’t be easy.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Tom Cable went 3-0 in Denver.
First game for Hue is in Denver.
He better win, or he will start off his career vastly inferior to “Cabes”.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Apparently TB is pretty high on him as Freeman’s backup, though. Not sure what it would take to pry him away from them.
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He should be nearing the end of his rookie contract if he isnt a RFA already…dont know what they would tender him at though
May 6th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obhocRay7h4&feature=related
0:11 something you rarely hear when DHB is involved
May 6th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Tom Cable as a Raider HC went 9-6 in our division (including 4-1 against Denver) beat SD for the first time in years, and constantly had our team in the upper echelon of running attacks, although having complete garbage for a QB.
The man had his limitations, but he produced while here.
Hue will have to average around 140 yards a game rushing, and continue to win over 60% of his division games to be an improvement.
Can be done, but won’t be easy.
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Hue made us into a viable offense….look at the ypc when Cable was here, it was very low. We had good rushing numbers because that is all we did, we had few other options. Six of those division wins came with Hue Jackson as Off. Coord. so he deserves the lion share of the credit for those IMO
May 6th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Anyone can twist the numbers to say whatever supports the argument they are trying to impress on others. People semm to lose sight of viabilty.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
More than anything else, Darren McFadden deserves credit for our YPC increase last year.
His first two years, Darren never broke a tackle. This past year, one tackler could never bring him down.
One can say it was Hue and better called plays, one can say it was great O-line play that Cable fostered, one can say it was due to having at least an average passing game.
I’ll give the credit to Darren, and his extremely tough-running last year.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
682.priesttj Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:39 am
DHB may yet surprise a lot of people including me. Hard work solves a lot of problems and the kid works very hard at being good. At the combine he caught everything and looked smooth doing it. They brought him to Alameda I believe twice and he looked good.
I think once DHB is able to get past the mental hurdle he’ll be fine. Plus he needs to be more aggressive in his route running he gets knocked off his routes way to often which affects the timing of a play.
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Dakota Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 10:42 am
I agree. DHB seems like he is driven to succeed, so that alone should net him another year or two of time. Doesn’t mean he should be starting if he can’t get the job done, but no need to give him the Russell heave-ho either.
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The thing that people keep forgetting about DHB is that he brings a different skill than the other WRs on the roster that is key to the org. He’s already the best blocking WR on the roster and is probably amongst the upper tier of blocking WRs in the league. He has the size and strength to outmuscle DBs and the speed to get on them quickly in the second tier of the defense. Add that to his strong desire to improve in all aspects of the game, total willingness to be a great blocker, and his work ethic to get there, and he’ll likely improve here.
If you watch footage of some of the best Raiders rushing and run after the catch plays, you’ll see DHB downfield making a key block that opens up a lot more space for the runners. For a run first offense, that’s a pretty important skill set. Especially when you can combine his blocking ability along with his stretch the field threat — his hands aren’t so bad that safeties don’t bother to cover him deep — he is a big helper to the Raiders top tier rushing game.
Now I’m not saying that a WR should really just be a glorified blocking TE that lines up wide, because he has to continue to improve as a receiving threat. Still he had several games last season with more than 3 catches, so there is hope. If he can remain a strong blocker, keep the safeties honest deep threat, and pull in 40 balls a season, I’d call that productive.
Sure he’s not 7th overall pick productive, but get over where he was picked and evaluate his total contribution potential as it stands now. Put another way, if there aren’t two clear cut WRs on the roster come the start of the season to supplant him, then that says something too.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I may be in the minority here?, but I am in DHBs’ corner. I really want to see the young man do well and get some reward and praise for the hard work we all know he is putting in….
May 6th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Six of those division wins came with Hue Jackson as Off. Coord. so he deserves the lion share of the credit for those IMO
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So does John Marshall deserve the “lion share of credit” in the SD and KC road game, and the Rams game, when the defense basically won the game for us?
May 6th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
JFB, Tom Cable is a bum.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I am interested to see where Seattles’ running game goes this year with Cable there.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
If they can go 6-0 in their division with Cable as co-headcoach then they will make the playoffs lol.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Just finished reading through the thread. So now the Day DHB was drafted will be a day that lives in infamy amongst the Raider Nation, huh. Sorta like Pearl Harbor or JFK, people will remember where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news.lol.
So here’s my two cents… The draft finally had arrived. Been looking forward to it since the day the previous season ended. Had my draft guide in hand and ready to go.
It just happened to be an unseasonably warm day. Picture perfect. So the wife says let’s take the girls to Kings island. The local amusement park. We have season passes and can go anytime. I’m like “the day of the draft, really?” She said “just for a couple of hours, it’s so nice”.
Priorities, right. Load up the rug rats in the grocery getter and go. Anyway, couple of hours later..leaving the park. fumbling thorough the stations to find BSPN radio. Sitting at a red light, they recap the 1st rd…with the 7th pick Oakland Raiders select….DHB!
GAWDAMMIT. Pounded the steering wheel with both hands. Startled the hell outta her. She jumped..what’s wrong?
The stubborn old SOB just had to do it. Drove the rest of the way home shaking my head in disgust.
I wanted C Alex mack and MLB Rey Mauluga. Just like in baseball, it’s all about strength up the middle, baby.
Oh well.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
JFB
We saw what Tom Cable had to offer the year prior to Hues arrival…..we scored 17 TD’s nuff said!
May 6th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
More than anything else, Darren McFadden deserves credit for our YPC increase last year.
His first two years, Darren never broke a tackle. This past year, one tackler could never bring him down.
One can say it was Hue and better called plays, one can say it was great O-line play that Cable fostered, one can say it was due to having at least an average passing game.
I’ll give the credit to Darren, and his extremely tough-running last year.
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In the off season we changed offensive coordinators. We moved away from the ZBS and more toward the gap and down blocking style, because of this new coordinator. Darren was asked what type of plays he likes to run and what he feels his strengths are and plays were called that highlighted his strengths and he was able to showcase his abilities. When you like what you are doing, you usually do it better.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
That being said..I’m still pulling for the kid. Watching those Youtube highlights are bittersweet. You can see the potentioal is there, but where is the production in the pros?
It has to be a mental block. It was obvious that he was really pressing as a rookie. Trying to validate his draft status because of all the controvery.
But last year was another lost season. Hopfully year three is a breakout season for him ala DMac.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Anyone ever notice that the NBA is the closest thing to a year round league out there?
May 6th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Being a huge SF Giants fan, the whole “DHB is a great blocker” reminds me of when fellow Giants fans use to tell me how great of a defensive first baseman JT Snow was.
1st baseman are supposed to hit HR’s, WR’s are supposed to catch TD’s.
May 6th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
we expect more from our HC, QB Coach, and PGC.
Not to mention the Oline and the WRs
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Jhill,
replacing Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker means 4 new starters on the O-Line … 2 of them rookies
if continuity means anything, expect a HUGE dropoff in production from the O-Line. Especially since Cable & both of his OL Coaches are also gone.
Most Raider fans assume that change means change for the better, but that isn’t always the case. Plus who knows if/when training camp will start up? Thats valuable time lost for these new coaches and these young hogs that need grooming
You’re basically losing Higgins & NMiller from the WR Corps and replacing them with 2 rookie late rounders. I still see DHB, Murphy, Ford & Schilens getting 95 percent of the WR reps. JLH & lil Nick caught a combined 13 passes last season so it’s not like there is some HUGE void to fill there
if Campbell, McFadden, Bush & Zmiller stay healthy all season, I’d still say 8-8 is a possibility, looking at the schedule … but that’s being generous to the defense which is likely to lose Asomugha & Huff in the secondary!
May 6th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Raider E Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I may be in the minority here?, but I am in DHBs’ corner. I really want to see the young man do well and get some reward and praise for the hard work we all know he is putting in….
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I usually root for the players that other people dont like… DHB, Run DMC, Huff, Shaughnessy, and Romac are my favorite Raiders. I think DHB’s problems are more psychological than anything, because i saw him make very nice catches in college. He has incredible yac ability and i wish we would throw him some bubble screens early in the season to get his confidence up and give him a chance to make plays in the open field
May 6th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
That being said..I’m still pulling for the kid. Watching those Youtube highlights are bittersweet. You can see the potentioal is there, but where is the production in the pros?
It has to be a mental block. It was obvious that he was really pressing as a rookie. Trying to validate his draft status because of all the controvery.
But last year was another lost season. Hopfully year three is a breakout season for him ala DMac.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. I noticed it with myself when i was playing football. I would make mistakes or drop passes because the whole time i was running under the pass i would be hoping i didnt drop the pass. I was also new to football and as my confidence grew i caught everything in sight. Not wanting to make too much of a comparison but i heard that Cliff branch struggled catching the ball early on in his career as well as freddy b
May 6th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
638.MistaBrown Says:
May 6th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Breaking down youtube video’s = hilarious
tj, were you able to take a peek any still photo’s on our picks ?
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I know, we should all be looking at the Tom Cables DVDs to JaMeatball instead.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Hue jackson enfluence on this team is obvious to a football novice to try to deny it is foolish. he had total control over the offense and it showed. He proved himself last year that he has a plan to take this team to the top. He understands the QB position better than most HC’s and understands offensive football like few HC’s. That is why I have a lot of hope for JC because he will design an offense condusive to his skillset. I don’t think Cable had those abilities.
His enthusiasm for the game rubbed off on this team some last year I think over the course of this season that will permeate the entire team. Into a fully functional well oiled machine. WE saw the how that works with teams like N.O. even Dallas to a lessor extent. JC has more weapons than he’s ever had and he’s in the second season with the same system which can’t hurt. I see bright things offensively now we need to be consistent. Last year we had a very slow start I expect us to take off out of the gates this year.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Continuity is good for the Oline, but what about Veldheer last season? He was able to come in and contribute.
This is the most intriguing Oline I can remember.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I have always liked the underdogs on the team as well Severe. James Jett, Scott Davis, and man o man Authur Whinnington lol…
May 6th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
We are nit gonna have a good oline. I dont even care for Gallery , but I think he may have played a crucial role in keepin those guys on the same page. We are in trouble up front. On the other hand< I think the defense is stout and WM22 is gonna surprise alot of people.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Raidertalk you said that yesterday and I’m starting to come around your way. I watched Barksdale vs A&M and Bama the kid can play. I’ve always thought Wiz was a player I just didn’t want him that high but since we didn’t get Kappy I can’t complain. I would’ve went crazy if we had drafted Greg Little I think he was as good as the top two. But last years picks and this year could all be starters within 2 years. That is great stuff. Veldheer and campbell with Wiz and Barks what a coup!
May 6th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Raider E explain why we’re in trouble on the line with the recent acquisitions on the line?
May 6th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Im just not that secure with the thought of throwing rookies into the fire with the shortened offseason and all that is going on with the NFL these days. I will admit that I am happy with the attention payed to the OL in the draft, but they still are kids that are gonna make mistakes. We all know that one play can mean an end to the season for one of our skill players. Im just not confident Priest.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
That’s fair! but you have to start somewhere. I agree about starting rookies immediately, which I can’t see that happening. Wiz may start I doubt Barks will, but I will say this I think people are selling Henderson way too short that kid is a better athlete than most on that line and playing RT is much easier than LT and Campbell isn’t a rookie I think he can step in and play well at OG. That IMO makes for a very good line once they get cohesive. And that is the MOST IMPORTANT issue with any line cohesion.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
I don’t think the Raids are going to miss Tom Cable as HC.
I wouldn’t say Cable was a terrible HC, and I think he was fired more for his personal behavior flaws than for his tactical shortcomings.
The Raids made progress under Cable, but they were still inconsistent and got blown out a few more times in 2010 than should have happened.
The smackdown in Tenn to start the season, getting demolished in Pitt, not showing up against the Niners, lackluster display against Miami, giving away a winnable game in Jax, and a dismal outing against Indy were not indicative of a well coached squad getting the most out of it’s talent.
To be fair though, the Tenn, Pitt and SF losses were largely attributable to JaJason playing like a total POS. It’s doubtful Vince Lombardi could have been competitive on those days.
Still, there’s the nagging feeling that a better prepared squad secures wins against Arizona (remember Grads delay of game ?), doesn’t blow the lead against Jax, and takes better advantage offensively against a vulnerable Colt offense.
All Cables fault ? Nope.
But the bottom line is the buck stopped with Cable. He pissed Al Davis off by allegedly slapping a woman around and opening the Raids to lawsuits, and set a bad standard by bringing his GF on road trips.
He was probably a goner, even if the Raids made the playoffs.
Amazing how the media didn’t have a clue any of this was going on or chose not to divulge it.
Even with the disappointing losses to the Colts and Jags, I felt the Raids were a better team at the end of the year than they were at the begining and even during the 3 game win streak.
The first win against SD was at home and a real nail biter despite the 2 blocked punts. The first win against KC was also at home and also a real nail biter.
The rematch wins were both on the road and real beatdowns.
SD got pulverized and worn out. DMAC pounding in that last TD was a thing of beauty.
KC might not have had a reason to play in the finale, but neither did the Raids. Yet the Raids put a terrific defensive beatdown on the Chefs en route to a convincing win.
So I think the Raids made progress under Cable. With a better QB, I think it’s reasonable to think they’re a playoff team.
I don’t expect a fall off under Hue. I think he’ll have the Raids ready to play and hopefully the team will continue it’s upward trend.
But there’s still a fly in the ointment.
The Raids need a better QB.
May 6th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Really think Al played it well by holding off on a QB in this year’s draft. Virtually every team that needed one reached for what was avialable this year (which means it’s very likely they won’t take a QB two years in a row), and Matt Barkley and Landry Jones (if he comes out) will be sitting behind Andrew Luck next year. If Davis likes one of them you can bet he’ll try and trade up if it’s necessary, and with everyone taking one this year he probably won’t have to go very high to do it.
I would take Barkley or Landry Jones over virtually any QB that was available this year.
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