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Raiders’ players camp in Atlanta

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The “neutral site” Jason Campbell referred to in interviews last week in interviews with PFT Live and Sirius XM radio will apparently be in the Atlanta area.

According to the NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora, approximately 25 to 30 players are expected at a Monday through Friday camp at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area.

It’s convenient for both Campbell and Richard Seymour, who are organizing the camp. Campbell lives in Northern Virginia, Seymour in South Carolina.

It look as if that’s the only work players will be getting for awhile. The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals granted a stay to ownership through the appeals process Tuesday, meaning that unless there is some kind of unlikely breakthrough, players should be on their own through at least this month.

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  • Bauce Rules

    How is stating the truth aabout sl@bama a dead giveaway?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Really, only the Aryan Nation, Sovereign People trade in that Fed Reserve conspiracy nonsense.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce

    What’s wrong with the Fed Reserve?

  • Twocents

    KoolKell, I am sure you made lots of money during the real estate bubble, of course you support the Fed.

  • Bauce Rules

    Kell im about to jet….u wanna talk face to face like a man…..hit me bauce_2010@yahoo or catch me by 45th and San Leandro

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Twocents, I know who you are, ok?

    I’m trying to see if Bauce Fool knows the 1st thing about the Fed Reserve

  • Twocents

    KoolKell, What’s wrong with the Fed is that they print counterfeit money and give it to their friends. Their friends get the benefit of the money before the the rest of realize that it has been devalued.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Kell im about to jet…
    ————————–
    See waht I’m saying, lmao. He has no clue about the Fed Reserve, and I dout you do either Twocents.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Stating you’re not a Democrat or Republican is just so original…

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Why does every person who presents themselves as politically independent from the two major parties always do so as if they’ve just come up with some new, original idea? They’re just omniscient about it. lol. “Actually, I’m not a Democrat or Republican”. As if they’re saying, “I have 3 arms, and 5 legs. I can also fly!”

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Usually after a Republican administration messes up, people who voted for them say Dems & Repubs are all the same.

    But, If you listen to them, you can hear that they’re Trickle Down Republicans, basically.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Oh, Kell, trust me, I’m on to that. Twocents was a flag saluting Bush Republican in 2004.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    I don’t believe anyone is independent, anyway. It’s a delusional mindset.

    Yeah, sure. You drive an SUV. You have either a blackberry or iPhone. You tivo American idol and sportscenter. You wake up every day and watch the 3 cable news networks. Oh, but you’re independent! ok.

  • Twocents

    My point is that the only thing that props up the ruling elite is public opinion. This is why the Federal Government controls education. This is why every politician must spend millions of dollars to get elected. Our country is awash in propaganda and myth making. It is working. No one wants to examine the myths. They just repeat the slogans.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    when did the right get so deep? I actually miss the Karl Rove era, back when you guys used to b.s. us about how great America was, how we’re spreading democracy, etc.

  • Twocents

    Raider, I was a flag saluting patriot, raised on John Wayne movies when I was 18. Experience has taught me to open my eyes and look for what is true, not what is popular.

  • Twocents

    What is with you two guys? All you do is paint me with the brush of your choosing.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Believe it or not, I’ll put my John Wayne movie collection up with anybody’s, certainly on this blog.

  • Twocents

    True Grit and Rooster Cogburn are the only two that are worth spit.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Two of my least favorites.

  • Twocents

    What are your favorites?

  • RaidingTexas

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    I don’t believe anyone is independent, anyway. It’s a delusional mindset.

    ******************

    Suggested reading: Days of War, Nights of Love.

    Bottom line is, you’re not going to be able to take yourself completely off the grid. But you can take on a different mindset and choose certain battles.

  • JB

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Believe it or not, I’ll put my John Wayne movie collection up with anybody’s, certainly on this blog.
    *******************

    My all time favorite: IN HARM’S WAY

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    The Searchers, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Stagecoach, Red River, In Harms Way…………

  • Twocents

    I liked the one with Maureen O’Hara set in Ireland. I think it was The Quiet Man.

  • Twocents

    Yes, I was remiss. My memory is coming back. Liberty Valance and Stagecoach are good too.

  • JB

    The Sea Chase wasn’t bad either.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Yep, the Quiet Man. Rio Grande

  • Twocents

    Don’t think I know The Sea Chase. I’ll put it on Netflix.

  • Twocents

    I must admit that I will watch Rio Bravo and El Dorado, but they are the same movie.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    This “sovereign citizen” concept originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement[2]—the last of which includes claims that the U.S. government has enslaved its citizens by using them as collateral against foreign debt. Supporters sell instructions explaining how to “free” oneself by filing particular government forms in a particular order using particular wording.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

  • Twocents

    KoolKell, WTF?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Twocents

    The redemption movement consists of supporters of a American conspiracy theory.[1] Redemption theory involves claims that when the U.S. government abandoned the gold standard in 1933, it pledged its citizens as collateral so it could borrow money. The movement also asserts that common citizens can gain access to funds in secret accounts using obscure procedures and regulations.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Two cents, we’re painting you with a brush because your points are nothing original. This blog is full of Republican turned tea partiers. You’re just one of many sheep.

  • Twocents

    KoolKell, I don’t know anything about that.
    But the part about the American citizens being responsible for the debt that the government runs up in its name makes some sense.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    RaidingTexas, my point is, it’s become a new trend in America for people to say they’re “independent”, just because they’re not a party line Democrat or Republican. No book you recommend to me is going to convince me that they’re not anything short of delusional fools.

  • Twocents

    Raider, What are my points?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Filibuster To Protect Big Oil Welfare Fueled By Oil Money

    Tonight, Republicans filibustered the majority’s attempt to repeal $21 billion in subsidies for the big five oil companies — the same companies that made over $30 billion in profits in just the first three months of 2011. While three out of four Americans believe Exxon Mobil and the other oil majors should pay their fair share, instead of receiving taxpayer welfare, the oil-friendly Senate split 52 to 48 to end the subsidies. Though the majority of the Senate voted to repeal these oil tax breaks, the procedural motion required a 60 vote threshold. An analysis of campaign contribution records shows the gusher of dirty cash that fueled the filibuster:

    http://thinkprogress.org/

  • Twocents

    KoolKell, Are you paid to post this crp? thinkprogress.org, really?

  • RaiderSam

    alex7 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    good point RAIDER. And sadly some fans think that we’re going to improve simply because we promoted our O-coordinator to coach.

    QB talent – subpar
    OL talent – subpar and possibly terrible.
    WR talent – terrible (honestly, compare it)
    LB talent – subpar
    DB talent – subpar to terrible without Aso and Huff.

    2011 opponents – Packers, Jets, Bears, Pats, Vikings, Dolphins, Texans.

    Count on at LEAST 5 losses just right there.

    QB – managed to beat San Diego and Denver twice (Gruden didnt even do that)
    OL – terrible yet managed to manhandle S.D.’s top ranked defense
    WR – agree, somehow they catch and score TDs no worse than Jacksonville and a number of other 8-8, 7-9 teams
    LB – best in years to be honest
    DB – agree, yet they picked and forced turnovers off Rivers (one of the best QB), etc.

    compounding this is every team is handicapped due to the longer offseason and having to develop rookies, new FAs, etc. – will there even be a season?

    lets wait for the pre-season to get a feel for how the team develops. Im not myopic, but the key is CAN THE WIN IN NOVEMBER and stay near .500

  • RaiderSam

    Twocents Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    KoolKell, Are you paid to post this crp? thinkprogress.org, really?
    ========================================
    why anyone would defend an empire determined to continue enslaving us and making record wealth is beyond me. Its beyond partisan or false left-right wing nonsense. Were talking a new ruling class of corporate dictators, a fake Congress, President and insane Foreign Policy that is exhausting the military and the future of American influence around the world.

    I mean, its like people want no freedom or control over their Government.

  • Violent Hands

    When Amy Trask, chief executive of the Oakland Raiders, gathered the entire staff for a meeting at team headquarters on the night the NFL lockout began on March 11 to outline plans for dealing with the work stoppage, apprehension loomed.

    Last week, the Miami Dolphins had a similar meeting and announced that effective immediately, salaries for all employees would be cut from 10% to 20%.
    The Raiders, though, unveiled details of an incentive plan requiring that team employees sell new season tickets that totaled at least 10% of their salaries during the length of a lockout. This, in lieu of salary cutbacks or furloughs.
    “It was like Christmas,” Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan recalled this week of the reaction at the meeting. “And with a big sigh of relief.”
    Bresnahan returned for a second stint with the Raiders this year, having spent the past seven years with other teams — including the last two seasons with the United Football League’s Florida Tuskers.
    Although he hasn’t closed a sale, he doesn’t sound worried about reaching his quota.
    “I’ve got to sell millionaires in a room every day to run and crash heads,” he says, referring to the players he coaches during normal times. “So this is easy.”
    Still, the added task of mining community events and knocking on the doors of corporations is quite a departure. All team staffers, from secretaries to equipment managers to executives, must effectively join the team’s sales staff.
    “I understand that some clubs are taking different approaches,” says Trask, mindful that about one-third of the NFL’s teams have cutbacks for team staffers, including furloughs and salary reductions. “(But) a very strong argument can be made that this is something that staff members of every team should be doing all the time.”
    Not every team has the tickets to sell like the Raiders, who averaged an NFL-low attendance of 46,431 for home games last season. They’ve had just two home sellouts the last two years, and since the franchise moved from back from Los Angeles in 1995 have had 83 of 129 home games blacked out.
    And it’s a tougher sell with a harsh economy converging with the uncertainty of the NFL’s labor dispute. Furthermore, the Raiders, who snapped a string of seven consecutive losing seasons with an 8-8 finish in 2010, play at one of the NFL’s most antiquated venues, Oakland Coliseum.
    “Most of the people I’ve encountered have been understanding,” Bresnahan says. “I think the public looks at us as caught in the middle. The hardest thing is looking someone in the eye during this economy. But on the other hand, people really want football.”
    Trask acknowledges that some employees might not be thrilled about “The 2011 Plan,” as it is called, but she suspects the percentage of “intimidated” staffers is low. She says one assistant coach closed a sale on 10 club seats on the first day and that camaraderie between different departments within the organization has improved.
    The target amount for each employee will depend on the length of the lockout. Through two months, an employee paid, for instance, $10,000, would have to sell $1,000 in new season tickets — payable one week before the regular-season opener.
    Refunds will be issued if payments are made for games lost to the work stoppage.
    “Everybody’s trying to get creative in their own way,” says Bresnahan, who was defensive coordinator when the Raiders won three consecutive AFC West titles from 2000 to 2002 and advanced to Super Bowl XXXVII. “I know I’ve got something to talk about at every establishment I set foot in — every restaurant, every store, every winery.”
    But he can’t wait until the labor issue is resolved, and the return to his full-time job — football. Says Bresnahan: “We’re drooling for that.”

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