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Raiders’ players camp in Atlanta

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The “neutral site” Jason Campbell referred to in interviews last week in interviews with PFT Live and Sirius XM radio will apparently be in the Atlanta area.

According to the NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora, approximately 25 to 30 players are expected at a Monday through Friday camp at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area.

It’s convenient for both Campbell and Richard Seymour, who are organizing the camp. Campbell lives in Northern Virginia, Seymour in South Carolina.

It look as if that’s the only work players will be getting for awhile. The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals granted a stay to ownership through the appeals process Tuesday, meaning that unless there is some kind of unlikely breakthrough, players should be on their own through at least this month.

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545 Responses to “Raiders’ players camp in Atlanta”

  1. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Go Raiders!

  2. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    MR is jealous of ALL HUMANS.

  3. RAIDER Says:

    I think the definition of the word “jealousy” is lost on a lot of Raider fans. The only people who are jealous of Al Davis and/or the Raiders in general are people who are either involved with, or fans of, teams that have went more than 7 consecutive years losing 11 or more games.

  4. RAIDER Says:

    And I think it speaks to the collective denial in the “raider nation”. You can pretend the past 8 years didn’t happen. Society at large won’t. It is basically impossible to be jealous of the modern day Oakland Raiders. There is literally nothing to be jealous of.

  5. priesttj Says:

    The NFL was granted a stay it’s going to eb a while folks!!

  6. priesttj Says:

    True because MR is not human he’s a Cyborg, why do you think he’s in here everyday allday?

  7. alex7 Says:

    good point RAIDER. And sadly some fans think that we’re going to improve simply because we promoted our O-coordinator to coach.

    QB talent – subpar
    OL talent – subpar and possibly terrible.
    WR talent – terrible (honestly, compare it)
    LB talent – subpar
    DB talent – subpar to terrible without Aso and Huff.

    2011 opponents – Packers, Jets, Bears, Pats, Vikings, Dolphins, Texans.

    Count on at LEAST 5 losses just right there.

  8. raidertay Says:

    Yea DVD let it out of the bag in his interview last week on Silver and Black Pride that they were meeting in ATL.

  9. r8eray Says:

    R8eray Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Campbell and Seymour assembling teammates in the Atlanta area beginning next Monday!!

    ——-

    Jerry, ;)

  10. RAIDER Says:

    priest, I’m in here every day all day because I’m trying to be as cool as you.

  11. inonewordraider Says:

    you guys see Hue Jack in the ring w/ Andre Ward after the fight? Guy is already in the mix, what kind of trouble could he get in if he attended the atlanta camp?

  12. RAIDER Says:

    Being a Raider fan used to be fun. You guys have made it too serious, with your anger and hatred toward any fan who criticizes Al. Sometimes I wonder if the losing is just bad karma. Perhaps you guys deserve agony.

  13. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Its a gesture but as far as effects? I just hope we have a season on time and camps so our new faces and new O line can gel

  14. Nnamdi21 Says:

    12. 31 other teams to choose from.

  15. RAIDER Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    12. 31 other teams to choose from.

    ……..

    Ah, the intelligent response…

  16. RAIDER Says:

    Basically, you’re saying you guys are going to continue making the Raider fan experience as joyless as possible by dividing the fan base between loyalists and fans who need to leave and choose from one of the “31 other teams”. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. There was once a time this attitude was rare amongst Raider fans. Notice, in fact, it really seemed to permeate when the team started losing.

  17. CanuckRaider Says:

    Well, this is quite the hoot. MR, who accused me of using different blog names, seems to be doing that very thing. I noticed you using a different alias a week or two ago as well MR. What’s up with that? Guilty conscience hounding you?

  18. CanuckRaider Says:

    Hmmmm…Guess you’re either trying to think of a comeback or going back through the archives. Hint: It was a couple of months ago. I’ll be back in a day or two…Give you time to prepare.

  19. r8eray Says:

    Training Camp might come sooner than later..according to PFT/ESPN Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that a new proposal has been made by the league, and that the players are considering the proposal and will respond. The process could go back and forth on Tuesday, and there’s no reason why the parties can’t keep talking without the mediator’s involvement after Tuesday, if momentum is building to get a deal done.

  20. priesttj Says:

    Nw they wont get serious until july, the owners are just taking the tempeture of the players to see how close they are to breaking. They do that also to appease the fans. If they do make a serious offer it’s because they tenured owners are making headway. Deep down this is a fight amongst the owners to get the players to except a deal which will allow the owners to haev a fund taht they can biuld stadia with. That way whenever an owner wants an upgrade he does have to go to the municipalities to do so the money will be provided by TV money and NFL properties.

  21. Roch R Says:

    “As for the “penalty box,” that was mostly put in place because of a perception that Bay Area media _ or as Warren Sapp termed “the local yokels” _ has been too critical. Some bigger national outlets get to move more freely if they’re considered more friendly or have a relationship with whoever the coach happens to be in a particular year.”

    This is why I enjoy Jerry’s blog, maybe you can read something into this maybe you can’t…but funny stuff none the less, and not bad for May.

    Thanks Jerry, the laugh is appreciated.

  22. RAIDER Says:

    Canuck, why are you so concerned who’s posting under what name? Do you think people who you agree with here don’t switch names? Why take this stance and by default declare yourself a hypocrite? If you’re not going to call everyone on something, don’t single out those you don’t like and hold it against them. That’s weak and disingenuous. It makes it seem like you have an agenda. Don’t be so obvious.

  23. RAIDER Says:

    Canuck Raider, your assumption that I was ducking you is just stupid. It shows a child like eagerness on your part to declare victory in an argument. People are going to leave this blog from time to time. When you declare yourself a winner just because someone stepped away, you’re only going to look dumber when they come back and tear your weak diatribe to shreds. Don’t be a silly little boy. Be a man. Watch how a man acts, if you need help. And you need all the help you can get with me, because trust me, I’ll beat you at anything.

  24. RAIDER Says:

    priest, they won’t get serious until July? What does that mean? the Raiders don’t get serious till July? That says a lot.

  25. RAIDER Says:

    I would contend that the Raiders won’t get serious until about December.

  26. Twocents Says:

    Speaking of December, I’m looking out my window and there is snow on the ground. WTF

  27. slickricktheruler Says:

    This year should be interesting.

  28. RAIDER Says:

    I think this year will be quite typical, actually. Usual overkill of hype from Raider fans. A blowout loss in week 1. 5-11.

  29. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    It’s a pretty smart location considering how many players are from the south.

  30. irjonny Says:

    I for one think the lockout will benefit this team in becoming a cohesive unit through workouts like these. If only we had the rookies there to learn the Playbook even if they couldn’t risk injury they should be present. Seymour should pay for them to be there imo…maybe he did who knows. Would like to know who’s there. Go Campbell this is what the nation has missed for 7 yrs. Leadership

  31. KoolKell Says:

    I guess Campbell has made copies of his playbook for his teammates…….

  32. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    MR you are not a Raider fan, stop trying so hard.

    Anyway why all the hiding? You worried someone might catch ya slippin?

  33. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krap Krap, you old goat, each player under contract has a playbook.
    Those not under contract won’t show for activities.
    That’s what happens when you get your age, Krappy.
    You spend more time filling your drawers than thinking!!

  34. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Got a message from the powers that be that you have been crying to them, like a little old man who’s had his Depends taken away from him, Krappy.
    I told you, Krappy.
    Invitations to my Muscle Beach Extravaganza are limited to those who aren’t women in disguise, and to those women who seek my company.
    You need to panty up, Krap Krap.

  35. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    alex7 Says:
    QB talent – subpar
    OL talent – subpar and possibly terrible.
    WR talent – terrible (honestly, compare it)
    =============================================
    Quite possibly an accurate asessment. One that leads me to ask how were the Raiders one of the higher scoring teams in the NFL last season ?

    Some possible explanations/contributing factors:

    Raids caught a break playing an easy schedule against weak teams with poor defenses.

    The importance of having a stellar RB has been underestimated in a league in which offense is primarily QB driven.

    Raider staff came up with excellent game plans and players were able to execute these plans.

    Maybe these guys aren’t quite as bad as advertised.

    Those are possible reasons, I’m sure there are others.

    How will the personnel differ in 2011 ?

    QB: basically the same; JaJason.

    OL: Gallery gone, Satelle likely replaced by Wiz, non-contibutors like Barnes and Henderson could depart, rumored that Walker might retire. Certainly a unit in flux and in an overhaul process – remains to be seen if this unit gets worse with change, improves or remains about the same.

    WR: basically the same; young cast gets a year older and wiser, but unless there’s a FA signing or a rookie is able to make an immediate impact, this unit remains the same.

    So what does this mean for the prospects of the Raids remaining a high scoring team in 2011 ?

    If one places an emphasis on the poor level of 2010 opposing defenses and an expectation that the Raids will face better opposition in 2011, we can expect a step backwards.

    On the other hand, it’s quite possible even without major changes in the offensive personnel, the Raids will still continue to perform well and what we perceive to be much better opposition today mught not turn out to be as staunch as we expect.

    Personally, I find it hard to be optimistic about this team ever having a robust passing attack with JaJason at the helm. I think there is some validity to the ‘easy schedule’ factor in the revitalization of Raider point production, but it’s one that might be exaggerated.

    Quite frankly, I find it difficult to explain how the Raids went from a doormat dormant offense to one of the higher scoring units in the NFL.

    Whatever the reasons, I sure hope they consistently put up points in 2011. Sure, the 48 point explosions against Denver are great – but it’s essential that the team is able to score with regularity, week in and week out, against tougher opposition – if 2011 is going to be a success.

  36. Senior Beeecham Says:

    MR, how you doing, little buddy?

    Why say you are here all day, every day, because you want to be just like the other old coot on this board?

    It’s our little secret that you have admitted to me that you are here because you are a mama’s boy, have no friends, no girl, and love getting strokes from different folks.

    But isn’t the real truth that you are also craving another viewing of the Cow by the Bay, Krappy’s wife?

    Where else can you get a gander at the face that shock Swahili nation?

    Holla, little fella!

  37. KoolKell Says:

    Looks like there’s a lonely troll out there tonight.

  38. Senior Beeecham Says:

    I just checked, KookyKell.
    According to Kane, you still don’t have a listing.
    You haven’t had a listing in over a year.
    According to them, you are MIA, and they laugh when I asked if they ever expect you to put in a days work.
    They suggested I stop by your fav barber shop, and gave me the address.
    You can check out my Px90 8pac.
    No touching, you degenerate Slum Geezer.
    My entourage shares with no one.

  39. KoolKell Says:

    ZZzzzzzzzzzz

  40. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krap Krap, you never answered when I asked how is it you and the Mrs. never spend time together?

    Porque, you old pile of bones?

    She works all day! You are on here all night!

    Question is, does she repulse you, or is it what we all suspect, that you repulse her?

    Lay it out for us, you plagiarizing coot.

  41. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Krap Krap, tell us again how you used to go to Raider games, when they were winning.

    And how you now won’t go because they are losing, where you even admit as long as the team loses, you won’t buy tickets!

    You and I know that’s called bandwagon, right KrappyKell?

    Ok, serious question, you old fossil!

    When was the last time you actually worked?

  42. Senior Beeecham Says:

    The “Blog Personality” has taken my advice, and consulted with his wardrobe specialist on whether or not to pull out the big guns, in my honor.

    Designer Depends with grip the road liners isn’t all that special, Krap Krap.

    To you it is, granted. But to get on the Biggest Loser, you’ll have to lose the Barney series of manboob bra’s you seem to be attached to.

  43. KoolKell Says:

    Beech

    You finished, already?

  44. Gerard Says:

    23.RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    Canuck Raider, your assumption that I was ducking you is just stupid. It shows a child like eagerness on your part to declare victory in an argument. People are going to leave this blog from time to time. When you declare yourself a winner just because someone stepped away, you’re only going to look dumber when they come back and tear your weak diatribe to shreds. Don’t be a silly little boy. Be a man. Watch how a man acts, if you need help. And you need all the help you can get with me, because trust me, I’ll beat you at anything.

    Ha. “Be a man”? This coming from the biggest pu$$y on this blog.

    “Man”? From a guy who hides like a scared rabbit behind multiple screen names so as not to be called out on his numerous childlike posts?

    “Man’? From a guy who doesn;t even have the cajones to come forth and say which football team he supports or roots for cuz he wouldn’t be able to handle the same criticism he doles out to others?

    “Man”? Who makes the statement “I can beat you at anything” sounding like a 3rd grader on the playground? What next? Are you gonna tell us that your dad can beat up all our dads?

    Why don’t you “man” up yourself Scotty.

  45. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Am I finished already?

    You’re off your meds again, aren’t you, you lunatic Krap Krap!

    I have good news for you!

    Sockeye salmon and dungeness season has just started up in Alaska, where I am headed.

    I can always use another bait boy. Someone who’s skilled in the art of baiting hooks, and swilling decks.

    Oh, that’s right. You never got out of the kitchen while as a swabbie, did you? That’s ok, we can use a dishwasher!

    Then on to Baja!

    Clean your shorts, Krap Krap! We leave tomorrow!

  46. Raider 510 Says:

    alex7 Says:
    QB talent – subpar
    OL talent – subpar and possibly terrible.
    WR talent – terrible (honestly, compare it)
    —————————————–
    This assessment depends on how one looks at the team. QB talent subpar, but what are the Raiders asking him to do? The team identity is run first. Oline is definitely subpar and possibly terrible when it comes to pass protection, but in the run game they were ranked 2nd, so in that view the line is elite. WRs…hmmm…can’t really argue there so Zach Miller better be resigned or things can get real ugly really quick. But, the potential at WR is there, the production on the other hand has not, clearly. A model of success that the 2011 Raiders can emulate, but hopefully do a better job than, is the Jets and what they’ve been doing the past two years. Strong defense, no turnovers, pound the rock, and the occasional deepball that breaks the opposing defense. The Raiders can do all of that in 2011, but where they are better than the Jets hands down is special teams, which is a very underrated part of Oakland’s success.

  47. alex7 Says:

    Incredibly weak schedule was the number 1 reason for offensive improvement in 2010.
    Healthy Mcfadden was reason #2.

    We averaged just 17 points vs non afc west / nfc west teams last season. And thats WITH two Ford td returns included.

  48. Raider 510 Says:

    I think too much hype is put into that strength of schedule stuff. Seattle beat New Orleans last year…cmon man. That’s why they say any given sunday.

  49. alex7 Says:

    No, the Raiders D can certainly NOT emulate the Jets D. Come on.

    We had TWO Jaguar runners crack 100 yards vs us in the same game.
    We let third string Colts rb dominic rhodes gash us.
    We let the Texans put up 31 on us at home while Arian Foster was benched AND Andre Johnson was out injured.
    We made Chad Henne look great.

    And now we lose our top two dbs.

  50. alex7 Says:

    510, we played lots of bad teams over the course of the entire year. No one is talking about any one week. You did notice, I’m sure, how terrible we looked when we played the Steelers, Niners, and Dolphins D, right?

    Expect the same when we play the Jets, Patriots, Bears, Packers, and Vikings Ds next season.

  51. priesttj Says:

    I tell ya’ I’ve been watching the SD game in SD with my eye on the Oline and the sfaety positions. The most impressive players in the secondary was Routt and MM34. Mitchell could’ve played fopr the Raiders in any era due is a flat out stud, he’s aggessive as hell and hits a ton. On a sweep he hit #35 for SD that big back and stoned him. he covered Gates all over holding gates to his first catch late in the 2nd qrtr. He just palys with reckless abandon. No doubt he can play either safety position no problem. Dude is a heat seeking missle. His enthuisiasm is infectuous.

    Also the Oline was not bad at all via the run or the pass. Satele gets a ton of crap in here now if you watch this game there is no doubt this guy was the best Olineman we had last year first he’s biuld like a fire hydrin and good feet angles well and is more stout than anyone in here gives him credit for.

    Also for the first time I noticed that Ford played a lot in the slot in taht game. I also watched DHB very closely and IMO he is a lot closer than people think to being a player. I wont make any predictions but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he has a very solid year.

  52. Raider 510 Says:

    49.alex7 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
    No, the Raiders D can certainly NOT emulate the Jets D. Come on.

    We had TWO Jaguar runners crack 100 yards vs us in the same game.
    We let third string Colts rb dominic rhodes gash us.
    We let the Texans put up 31 on us at home while Arian Foster was benched AND Andre Johnson was out injured.
    We made Chad Henne look great.

    And now we lose our top two dbs.

    ———————————–
    All about the coaching…we’ll see what Hue’s made of because the talent is definitely there.

  53. RAIDER Says:

    Raccoon, I thought we cleared this up last weekend. I’m not going to offer my identity on this blog. If you think you can figure it out with your little ip gidget, go for it. I don’t know what you think you’re accomplishing by continually bringing up my ip addresses. Clearly it’s not deterred me from commenting here. If this is some lame attempt to intimidate me, clearly it’s not working. So what’s the point? If you really know who I am, and know where to find me, you’re going to have to be a man (for a change), and step to me in person. Of course even then nothing would change, but perhaps you can get this anxiety off of your chest for good. Sometimes even losing a fight makes you feel better. At least you tried.

  54. RAIDER Says:

    Gerard, I’m a Raider fan. I “support” the Raiders. Period. I just feel our current management is detrimental and counterproductive. I want Al Davis gone so the Raiders can win. That’s about the best I can explain it. If you have a problem with it, too bad. Because there’s a lot of fans like me. You’re just going to have to get used to it.

  55. Kirk Says:

    God bless you, Priestj, but DHB is never going to be a player unless they switch him to safety.

  56. Harder2000 Says:

    @ Kirk, We will see what happens, but i wouldnt write off a hard working player with potential after just two seasons with dubious QB play and a subpar passing game overall – should he start if he doesnt outplay the competition? No he shouldnt!
    But you never know, he has the intangibles coupled with some great physical treats to become something! .. He could be a late bloomer that was thrown in too soon before he was ready, causing the majority of Raidernation to loose faith in him, instead of fazing him in as a rotational player until he was ready (… arguments that we should have taken another WR in the deep WR class instead is mood as we chose DHB and he is what we have now)!
    Sid Rice didn’t do anything in his first two years either, then exploded in the third (a couple of injuries and no chemistry with the QB – just like Hey-Bey)..
    At least Hey-Bey should be given the opportunity to compete for his third year before facing final judgement – only getting what his workouts in practise and play in games merits naturally, has to earn it..

  57. Harder2000 Says:

    “Sal Paolantonio just reported that the NFLPA asked the NFL to give them a new offer, and that they’re going to meet well into the night. Carl Eller said he was very optimistic.”

    Could it be that they will be willing to make a deal? 8th circuit seems to be in favor of the owners, but it is not a definite certainty, which might make most owners prefer a deal done before the hearing in june.. And the players just realized that they most likely won’t win anything by dragging it out to long – could be a situation where both parties are willing to budge a little (the players the most)! Lets hope..

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ocho’s next non-football project is to play the donkey in Shrek 5

    ***

    LOL!

    good one Silver :P

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    According to the NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora, approximately 25 to 30 players are expected at a Monday through Friday camp at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area

    ***

    woohoo!

  60. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Rockstar, whats going on?

  61. Buckeyeraider Says:

    G’Mornin fellas.
    ‘Sup RRS, Hwnrdr?

    Alex7 and alot of others are complaining about next years schedule. How tough it is and crying woe is me, no way can Oakland duplicate their record from last year. Doom and Gloom. 6-10 at best. Probably 5-11. OH NO!

    Here’s how I look at the schedule: The .520 SOS is the exact same as last year. The Raiders swept their division foes last year, hammering each in their own backyard. Tough to duplicate that this year. I’m hoping for a 4-2 division record. Anything better would be awesome.

    NOT ONLY do the Raiders have to play New England, Green Bay, etc….everybody does. The AFC West has a tough draw with AFC East and NFC North.

    The Difference is… in addition, KC gets Pittsburgh and Indy. Have you seen their friggin schedule? San Diego gets Baltimore, while Oakland host the Browns.

    Advantage: Oakland.

    I think the West is a race to 9-7. I think Oakland has a chance to get there. Hell, a couple of years ago SD won it at 8-8. Could happen again.

    I’m not as scared of Minnesota and their aging defense as Alex is. Yes they have AP, but that’s not an automatic loss, IMO. Neither is hosting Da Bears in Oakland. Tough games, but winnable. Geez.

    I think Oakland has as good a shot as anybody to take the division. But I guess I’m a glass half full kinda guy. Negative Nancies.

  62. Davy Jones Says:

    12.RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Being a Raider fan used to be fun. You guys have made it too serious, with your anger and hatred toward any fan who criticizes Al. Sometimes I wonder if the losing is just bad karma. Perhaps you guys deserve agony.

    16.RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    Basically, you’re saying you guys are going to continue making the Raider fan experience as joyless as possible by dividing the fan base between loyalists and fans who need to leave and choose from one of the “31 other teams”. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. There was once a time this attitude was rare amongst Raider fans. Notice, in fact, it really seemed to permeate when the team started losing.

    =========================================================

    ROFLMAO. If anyone is making being a Raider Fan joyless, it is YOU, with your “11 loss season” mantra. You’re joyless because you can’t rip on the Raiders without criticism? You have THE most perverse idea of being a fan I’ve ever heard of. If you take any more joy out of misfortune you’re going to need to start wearing a gimp suit.

  63. Bauce Rules Says:

    Alex7 is a wimp and is wrong….Qb isnt subpar nor is the LB unit or DBs….Huff sux and Nnamdi is overrated

  64. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR is a loser with no life, a virgin at 37, and a perpetual obsession with Al Davis….pitiful

  65. Bauce Rules Says:

    Players bought to budge? Oh well…..get deal done….need free agency need training camp need preseason games need full season

  66. guest123 Says:

    Cowboys interested in Nnamdi?
    _____________________________
    Source: Dallas Morning News – Rainer Sabin

    Rainer Sabin, from the Dallas Morning News, reports that because of the Eagles interest in veteran CB Nnamdi Asomugha the Cowboys could have even more incentive to pursue him in free agency. After the draft, Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones acknowledged that the team wouldn’t shy away from free agency. “Certainly we will be looking there,” Jones said. “If we can help our team, we will do it.”

  67. Harder2000 Says:

    @Buckeyeraider,

    Good point, thought about that as well – the schedule is difficult for all AFC West teams, not just the Raiders! We compete against the other division rivals on a spot, and we have actually been pretty lucky with regards to additional teams as well as construction of the schedule! The difficult schedule could mean that AFC West is out of the race for a wild card spot, but that is seen many times before, and it doesnt matter if we take the division.. So it only matters with regards to the division commpetition, and there we’re not worse off than the others..

  68. guest123 Says:

    I think that KC is the least likely to repeat as division champs. But then again, anyone could win this division. It’s going to be wide open, and I don’t think that Denver is going to be that bad. Especially with the tougher schedule for all, you can throw last years records out the window if you are looking to forecast next year.

  69. J Hill Says:

    With KC a losing their OC and Denver trying to decide between Tebow and Quinn, I am FAR from worried about those 2 teams in the AFC West.

    The Chargers and the Raiders will battle for the AFC West title.

  70. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOO LAKERS!

  71. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Guest,and 2000

    Yeah, I’d say it’s safe to say the division is wide open. I’d put SD as a SLIGHT favorite just because of Rivers. As much as I despise his whiny AZZ, he is a helluva QB. While their window is closing, IMO it’s not shut yet.

    The big thing is though, last year Oakland got a HUGE monkey off their back. After 6+ years of being tortured by the Chargers, Oakland turned the table on them last year. They aren’t afraid of SD at all. Confidence is a HUGE factor.

    IMO, it started two years ago on that opening MNF game. Oakland put a physical beating on them, and probably should have won that game. Rivers pulled out a late one.

    This past year, the Raiders dominated them, especially the rematch in SD. A lot of critics said the first game was a fluke. Two blocked punts…Fumble return TD. Not gonna happen again. Blah, blah, blah.

    Oakland then proceeded to go to SD in the rematch…during SD’s patented late season hot streak…and kicked their friggin teeth in.

    With their schedule, I think KC is going to be lucky to stay in contention. The division could come down to the final week of the season…SD@Oak…for all the marbles.

  72. Bauce Rules Says:

    KC Denver and SD<—–all major jokes….not even a factor if we are healthy

  73. Harder2000 Says:

    @Guest123
    The problem for Denver will be how their run D holds up! They face KC and Raiders that are set on pounding the rock! As far as i remember they also face the Jets, the Vikes and the Titans that will try to run them over..
    We might be gashed by some long runs, but if they dont get their interior line revamped after the switch to 4-3, they will be killed consistently on the ground.. There are some good prospects out there, lets hope they dont get their pick!

  74. MistaBrown Says:

    The gift that keeps on giving!

    thank you tj
    :D
    ____

    Priesttj Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    I tell ya’ I’ve been watching the SD game

    I also watched DHB very closely and IMO he is a lot closer than people think to being a player. I wont make any predictions but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he has a very solid year.

  75. Bauce Rules Says:

    Actually it started against SD in 2008 when we lost a game we outplayed them in. U can see it then ad there soon SD bs hold on us was lifting

  76. MistaBrown Says:

    Bauce, are you sure boy tj is just full of passion or is he mentally deranged?

  77. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol Mista

  78. MistaBrown Says:

    C’mon just admit it or I’m gonna throw you into the same mental ward. That passion business just ain’t gonna fly no more man. OG is simply not playin with all his faculties.

    :D

  79. Dakota Says:

    We have no idea what our team will look like nor what any of the other teams in our division will look like once the lockout is over and free agency begins.

    If we don’t get some o-line help you can mark us down for last place.

    Veldheer, Loper, Rookie, Campbell, Rookie/Barnes/Walker

    =
    trouble

  80. Harder2000 Says:

    @Buckeyeraider, yeah, KC is looking at away games against Pats, Colts, Jets and Lions, they have some serious issues!
    SD will be a contender mainly because of Rivers! They have a decent roster, but a quality starting QB that can win games and are comfortable in the system can really be a gamechanger! But as you say, the games are open now, will be good to see if we can keep the momentum going against them, turn the plates in yet another season..

  81. Bauce Rules Says:

    BHP is badly trippin on DHB

  82. Bauce Rules Says:

    DHB IS AWFUL…..im an Al loyalist too but guy cant play

  83. Bauce Rules Says:

    SD doesnt worry me at all

  84. Bauce Rules Says:

    Dakota…..we cant have that oline….veldheer can be LT, wiz center and barksdale or campbell can be RT….but we need to sign two vet guards. Loper sucks

  85. Harder2000 Says:

    @Dakota, The uncertainty regarding the roster, with the DB’s and Oline in particular, makes it impossible to make predictions.. But if they fix, sign and resign the players needed to fix these areas, there is an open division to compete in! I hope we fix what needs fixing, cause even an Oline with great talent needs to gel – especially in the run game, and even more so with potentially 1 oneryear starter (Veldheer) and two rooks + a first time starter (Big Barks, Wiz and Campbell that didnt play last year)..
    But i think it will be fixed, we will sign a player or two, and when camp starts we will get a look at where we stands and how competitive we might be this year!

  86. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista why are people under the impression you are apart of Aryan nation?

  87. Dakota Says:

    I love that DHB seems like a hard working guy that really has the desire to succeed….but none of that matters if he can’t catch.

    People claim you can learn how to catch and they point to Jerry Rice as an example of a guy who dropped a lot of balls his first season and then solved that issue….yeah well, Jerry was a special guy.

    Rice was very good in college, dropped a lot of passes his rookie year (but still won NFC offensive ROY), and then solved the issue. DHB has nothing in common with that….DHB did nothing in college and has continued that trend doing nothing in the NFL.

    I just don’t see it happening for him. McFadden was great in college so you knew the potential was there…no such feeling on DHB. I hope he proves me wrong, but I just don’t have a good feeling about it. We will be very luck if he even becomes a slightly below average NFL WR. Right now the offense is playing 10 on 11 with DHB out there.

  88. MistaBrown Says:

    If Tom the meathead Cable would have gave Campbell some PT last year we would know a little better what we have there.

  89. MistaBrown Says:

    Because I’m not in favor of 0b@ama care?
    ______

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Mista why are people under the impression you are apart of Aryan nation?

  90. Bauce Rules Says:

    Harder if we dont sign a vet LG AND RG to start for us…were fked

  91. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

  92. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista….cable as usual cant coach lol….but like we had better options

  93. MistaBrown Says:

    I call out tj on his lack of fundamental football knowledge and he throws the swastika card at me. You tell me where the aAyan thing comes from and we will both know.
    ____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Mista why are people under the impression you are apart of Aryan nation?

  94. MistaBrown Says:

    *Aryan

  95. Bauce Rules Says:

    Chad Ford embarrassing himself on espn talking abouut upcoming nba draft lol

  96. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Jon Kingdon is our director of college scouting and according to Pro Football weekly he alone has the most influence on Al Davis as to the draft.

    Has anyone else heard about this?

  97. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol Mista….have no clue where they gettin it from…..maybe u outta be a self hating white guy like MR….u can blame ur own ppl for everything lol

  98. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kingdon has about as much influence as a semi pro blogger on Al Davis during draft time

  99. Dakota Says:

    666 here is a good interview with the guy I found:

    http://www.raiders.com/news/2010-Draft/article-1/Draft-QA-with-Jon-Kingdon/22f09c18-8be6-4d84-abfb-c50f2f85874a

  100. MistaBrown Says:

    BFD
    Al probably hasn’t returned his call in 3 years.
    ____

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Jon Kingdon is our director of college scouting and according to Pro Football weekly he alone has the most influence on Al Davis as to the draft.

    Has anyone else heard about this?

  101. MistaBrown Says:

    Who?
    ____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Chad Ford embarrassing himself on espn talking abouut upcoming nba draft lol

  102. MistaBrown Says:

    666
    Read #98 and #100 and you will then know why you are a pi$$ ant amateur while Bauce and myself are guru’s.

    :D

  103. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The only thing you are a guru at is surfing goat porn, spouting ignorance on this blog while seeking affirmation from other demented bloggers, the WWF and the increase in rent at the local trailer park.

  104. MistaBrown Says:

    lol

  105. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Thanks Dakota that was a good article and if they would teach Alabama trailer park trash how to read SistaBrownEye might have a different perspective…well first he would have to know the meaning of the word perspective…

  106. MistaBrown Says:

    I know it hurts….666

    lmao

  107. J Hill Says:

    This obsession with our OG position is much to do about nothing!

    Our RG play was probably the worst in the NFL last year. How can it possibly be any worse?

    We’ve already seen Loper fill in for Gallery without us missing a beat. Gallery was a bust OT barely hanging on at G.

    Teams pick up OG in the 6th rd of the draft, they start as rookies, and play 10 years in the league.

    OG is not that big of a deal. More concerned with Reece at FB.

  108. raiderinpa Says:

    All, if you could only attend 1 Raiders home game this year would you go to the New England game to see Seymour bash Tom Gay-dy or Chicago to join the crowd in ripping on cry-baby Cutler?? Also, which one do you think is a more likely win for the Silver & Black??

    Chime in…

  109. Silverandblack666 Says:

    it hurts from laughing so hard

    I come here for entertainment to break up the monotony during the work day and you BrownEye give me so much I want to thank you in case I have not yet done so.

  110. Silverandblack666 Says:

    ” if you could only attend 1 Raiders home game this year”

    Kansas City

  111. J Hill Says:

    Are we using our DEs right?

    Why does ShoNasty come off the field on 3rd down?

    Should Wimbley be playing DE full time? Wouldn’t he be a 12+ a year sack guy?

  112. J Hill Says:

    Groves???

    He got much better at OLB late in the season. Going to be interesting to see if they give that spot to Goethel and what happens to Groves if they do?

  113. Dakota Says:

    The Sperminator is in trouble!

    Mahreeahhhhhh don’t leeeave meee! I vill go to da s3x counselah!!!!

  114. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Dakota,

    Have you watched the links to the youtube highlights of DHB at Maryland? I know youtube can be misleading because it doesn’t tell the complete story. They are only highlights.

    I compared them to those yearly highlight shows that NFL Films does on every team every year. You condense the whole season down to 20 minutes of all the biggest plays and big hits and touchdowns and you’re like WOW, they look really good. Why didn’t they contend last year? Then you realize they were 5-11. Can be deceiving.

    With that being said, the difference with DHB is…you can see that the guy CAN ACTUALLY catch the ball. Something we haven’t seen much yet in the pros.

    The 98 yd TD he hauls in vs Miami (Fla) is damn near the same ball he drops last year vs Jax. There is a catch vs FSU where he splits the double team, and goes up and catches a TD at it’s highest point, with his hands and away from his body. Not exactly Swann in the SB, but a nice friggin catch. All I could think is where the hell is that in the pros?

    Maybe you can chalk some of it up to level of competiton. Maybe pro cb’s are giving him fits.

    But, I thinks it’s more a confidence issue. A mental block he needs to work through. It’s obvious he was pressing as a rookie. It was awful. He literally played Hot Potato with every ball thrown his way.

    But, even Jerry mentioned how much better he looked catching the ball last offseason. More natural. Leading to that ridiculous press release. He did improve from 9 catches to 27. Still dismal, but trending upwards.

    I’d like to see 40-50 catches, maybe 500-600 yards and 4 or 5 TD”s. An avge NFL season. I don’t think that out of the realm of possibility.

    It’s frustrating for sure, but don’t give up on the kid just yet. Maybe this is his breakout year.

  115. Harder2000 Says:

    @Bauce, lets see – I tend to agree with you, but we’ll have to see who they can bring in as it would have to be starter worhty guys.. I watched the games where Loper started again, and he did decent as a backup coming in, but i just dont see him as a starter! Adding two quality veterans will definately be a big help! Just not sure it will happen.. Think we will get one, so that one better be a quality starter to help the young line get up to speed fast! Between Campbell, Big Barks and Wiz, starting more than two right out the gate will lead to rookie troubles – if we do so because of need, i really hope we have someone that is able to step in and some veteran leadership that can keep them grinding and improving (Wiz sr will, but thinking of players that can help on the field)..

  116. Dakota Says:

    Buckeyeraider,

    I hope you are right. I like the kid….seems to be a hard worker. But everyone can string together a highlight film after 3-4 years in college. Heck, even Mike Mitchell did it!

    You can make a few nice catches, but if you can’t do it consistantly then you are useless. I agree with you that it might be a mental thing with the drops. Hands of stone or mental block, either way he isn’t getting the job done.

    The DHB pick bothers me more than the Russell pick. At least Russell had great potential. DHB’s potential has always been at the “average” level. Too bad Russell didn’t have DHB’s desire and work ethic.

  117. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Easy with the Mitchell cracks, there fella. lol.

    MM34 is gonna be a great playa. Get ovah it!

  118. guest123 Says:

    I disagree that DHB’s potential was “average”. He was graded a first rounder by many scouts. Lacked the production in college, but by the measurables, he was the best WR on the board. And after learning the hard way with Russell, they didn’t want to deal with a kid who wasn’t willing to work hard. DHB at least has done his part in putting in the effort.

    I’ve been much more dissapointed with the Russell pick, if only because we all fell for the lie that was Russell.

  119. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DHB is never going to be a player unless they switch him to safety.

    ***

    LOL @ Kirk

    OUCH!

  120. Dakota Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 9:16 am
    I disagree that DHB’s potential was “average”. He was graded a first rounder by many scouts. Lacked the production in college, but by the measurables, he was the best WR on the board.
    ++++++++++

    Careful MR….you are starting to sound like Al Davis! Measurables! lol

  121. guest123 Says:

    MR? Who is this MR?

  122. JR Says:

    Just a skeleton of a good team b/c of all the uncertainty.

    Right now I see the Raiders holding on to Sataele@C and using a combo of Wizniewski, Barksdale, Loper@G and playing Veldheer and whoever @T, with Campbell playing T or G too. It’s messy…

    Jason Campbell?? an up and down guy for sure but if he can manage a game and not make too many mistakes, he is the best option.

    A lot of question marks on D as well…

    Just wish that they got started…

  123. guest123 Says:

    The key will be if we can continue to run the ball effectively. As Jerry pointed out, when don’t rush the ball well, JC gets pounded and his QB rating plummets. If we can get B Campbell and Veldheer on the left side and road grade, and plug in some stopgaps on the right side, we’ll be good to go. The passing game will work itself out on its own. I fully expect Wiz II and B Campbell to step up this year in a big way.

  124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so 25 to 30 Raider players are expected at a Monday through Friday camp at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area …

    here’s my list:

    Jason Campbell
    Kyle Boller
    Darren McFadden
    Michael Bennett
    Rock Cartwright
    DHB
    Louis Murphy
    Jacoby Ford
    Shaun Bodiford
    Damola Adeniji
    Brandon Myers
    Kevin Brock
    Bruce Campbell
    Daniel Loper
    Jared Veldheer
    Alex Parsons
    Roy Schuening

    Richard Seymour
    Tommy Kelly
    John Henderson
    Matt Shaughnessy
    Lamarr Houston
    Routt
    Eugene
    Branch
    S Brown
    CJ37
    Groves
    MCClain
    Goethel

  125. CanuckRaider Says:

    Sorry MR but you’re the hypocrite being the one who originally accused me of posting under aliases then doing the same thing yourself. You also exposed yourself as being the “childlike” one with your boast of being able to “best me at anything”. Actually, I’m still chuckling about that one. Thanks for making my morning. And I fully understand that you’d have to leave your computer now and then…like when you hear mom coming down the basement stairs.

  126. CanuckRaider Says:

    Man I hate this lockout nonsense. Have a great day Nation!…Even you MR.

  127. priesttj Says:

    You got some guys in here that don’t know there ass from a hole in the graound trying to check someone else. Ignorant racist bigot can’t see past the nose on his face yet he has the nerve to attack someone else’s comments. Fool is dumber than the sphinx in egypt and a bigot to boot.

    DHB may or may not be a player but he aint nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be. The hate on him stems from where he was picked something he neither asked for or made happen. Scouts evaluated him and every scout I heard talk about this kid had him at worst a mid 2nd rnd pick. Now why is that? Yet we got a bunch of blog idiots who know better. This kid works his arse off constantly. Yeah the stats aren’t there but he is far from hopeless. He’s actually a lot closer to being a player than anyone wants to admit. Because you all are scared to say anything positive about the kid ude to the wrath you may get from the meatheads in here.

    I know what I’m looking at and this kid is close he just needs some success is all a play here and a play there to boost his confidence. I think you’ll start to see this kid produce close to where he was projected maybe never where he was actually drafted but I see him getting to the point where his production is acceptable for a low 1st high2nd rnd pick. Will it happen who knows he could get hurt and never play another down but if he stays healthy my money is on him getting there.

    I have a rule in life that hard work almost always pays off. Unless circumstances beyond your control take place. Now agree or disagree either way no one died.

  128. guest123 Says:

    The owners are the ones locking out…. keeping us from football…. but they didn’t sue to do it. They didn’t take the issue into court. The players did.

    So, if you want to point the finger of blame at anyone, point it at the players.

  129. guest123 Says:

    There’s no need to attack anyone’s comments and take it personal. There are some in the DHB camp and some in the DHB hate camp.

    As long as he’s a Raider, I have to have some loyalty to him and hope he matures as a receiver. I don’t wish ill on DHB. But that said, it’s maddening as a fan to watch him drop passes in close games that would have made the game close or maybe even gave us the W.

    And he is rightfully vilified for that. I think. You play the role of the goat, and you get the goat treatment of boos and bronx cheers. Doesn’t matter that you are a hard worker. You either deliver or you fail. In life, failure has consequences. In the NFL that failure is even more obvious, and there is no way to run and hide from it. DHB has done nothing to prove he isn’t another first round bust.

    You want to stick up for him on “gut feel”, that’s fine. I wont attack your comment. But that “gut feel” doesn’t convince myself or many others that DHB is going to come out of his funk and be a legit WR in the NFL.

  130. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Curious to know what Priest saw in that @SD game that leads him to believe DHB is close to being a player.

    HE DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A CATCH THAT GAME!!!!

  131. Just Fire Baby Says:

    There are guys that flame out of the NFL every year, and plenty of them were hard-workers.

    Hard-work may help a lot in the real world, but in the NFL, you need elite talent, hard-work, good teammates, good organization, lucky streak of good health, and than MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, you might make a Pro Bowl.

  132. priesttj Says:

    JFB it wasn’t his stats at all I know that sounds peculiar but it’s his understanding of what the coaches are asking him to do. When you watch this kid on any given play he knows what to do. You never see him loafing or confused he’s always going about his business in a aggressive manner. I know that doesn’t compute with 99% of the publace in here but for coaches that is huge. Now my problem with him is he tends to be too willing to be a great teammate. he needs to demand the ball a lot more, from opening snap to the gun goes off. That’s where he is desparately lacking. He’s got to go to Camp and say “hey man i”m open get me the ball”. That’s the next corner he needs to turn.

  133. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He’s got to go to Camp and say “hey man i”m open get me the ball”. That’s the next corner he needs to turn.

    ************************************

    Yes, I believe a little humor could lighten up Campbell in some clutch scenarios.

  134. guest123 Says:

    Ford is the only WR with the “My Ball” mentality on the Raiders. Murphy was starting to get that attitude, but he was not the same when he came back from the clavicle injury. I’d like to see Ford targeted on some short routes in space, bubble screens, curls, etc. Just get the ball in Ford’s hands and let him do his yards after catch thing.

  135. priesttj Says:

    You don’t get picked where this kid got picked unless the world of profootball thinks you have elite talent. I know this doesn’t compute with you guys but the entire league signed off on this kid for a reason. You can see in games he’s just not finishing plays I know that is somewhat nondescript but I don’t know how to explain so you understand it. Without writing a book.

  136. Just Fire Baby Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:31 am
    This obsession with our OG position is much to do about nothing!

    Our RG play was probably the worst in the NFL last year. How can it possibly be any worse?

    **************************

    AFC West Blogger Bill Willaimson, had Carlisle as top 10 O-lineman in our division.

    One of the least penalized O-lineman in football.

    Started in the NFL before he got here, will be starter once he leaves here.

  137. guest123 Says:

    Till now, the hard work that DHB has put in has made him an effective blocker and decoy at times. But if he can’t catch balls consistently, even his decoy ability will whither away. He becomes a liability.

  138. priesttj Says:

    When you see Camp get the ball from C and look downfield 9x’s out of 10 DHB is his first read. he’ll pump fake and go underneath. Now maybe they have a man deep or maybe he’d trying to fake someone else open but the fact that he’s not throwing it to DHB is a trust issue that DHB need to clear up. Somehow someway he needs to biuld that trust that if Camp does ot him he’ll make the play. Ford has done that now DHB needs to do it. Because he is coming off DHB for lack of confidence. They need to fix it.

  139. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Preist,

    Plenty of guys were top-flight prospects who come to the NFL, work-hard, are good guys and teammates and just plain suck still.

    That’s life in the league.

    DHB may become a good player, hell maybe even a great player. But his first two years he has been awful, and great is a long ways from here.

    Ford made more plays, game-deciding plays, and TD’s his first month of playing than DHB has in 2 years.

    Why would Hue waste snaps and plays on DHB, when guys like Ford and Murphy consistantly perform better?

    DHB had his scholarships years, and Hue was putting an end to that at the end of last year. Unless DHB comes out with guns-blazing the beginning of next year, I would expect another 30 catch 400 yard 1 TD season from him.

  140. priesttj Says:

    Guest123 NON OF them catch balls consistently Murphy drops balls all the time. Ford dropped most of the first few paasses Camp threw to him but everyone else was hurt so he HAD TO THROW to him and he started to make some plays. We don’t have a rec who ctahce ball consistently.

  141. Buckeyeraider Says:

    That’s an excellent point, Guest.

    Jerry mentioned that a couple of years ago when the Raiders had those contentious joint practices with the Niners. He said it was painfully obvious how much harder the SF WR’s fought for the ball. That is something DHB and the other WR’s need to work on.

    Except for Ford. He doesn’t need coached up in that area. It’s in his nature. He’s a tenacious lil fella. We saw that vs KC. I said at the time that Ford would try to wrestle the ball away from an alligator. I hope it becomes infectous.

  142. guest123 Says:

    Usually a WR is given till his 3rd year to “break out”. If he hasn’t done it by then, the guy is put on the scrap heap with a bunch of other nobodies and never-weres. DHB can’t afford to just have a 40 catch season this year as a starter. The odds are really against him, and the time is runnning real short to show results.

  143. priesttj Says:

    JFB now you’re repeating what I said, no one knows taht he will do it until he does it. I’m stating what needs to be done IMO now you can agree or not agree his first two years are well documented. Most see no hope I’m saying I disagree……………period

    I’m not saying I’m absolutely right, I’m saying I disagree…………….get it?

  144. guest123 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 10:04 am
    Guest123 NON OF them catch balls consistently Murphy drops balls all the time. Ford dropped most of the first few paasses Camp threw to him but everyone else was hurt so he HAD TO THROW to him and he started to make some plays. We don’t have a rec who ctahce ball consistently.

    ****************

    Consistency is something that grows from a pattern of successes. Ford learned that when he returned the investment in him. That’s why JC looks to him. He knows that a lot of balls are thrown into tight windows. Essentially they are “jump” balls with the player with the nastier edge, the stronger will is going to go up and get it. It’s in the bloodlines, and Ford is a bulldog. While DHB is a lapdog.

  145. guest123 Says:

    @141, If we evaluated DHB by the same criteria of film study as we did Ford, we’d likely have never taken DHB. But Al and his 40 times….We could have had Hakeem Nicks, but his 4.5 time was too slow.

  146. priesttj Says:

    YOU may or may not know this but JFord caught the sam e# of passes that DHB caught last year. Now I would gues that if Ford were in this years draft after what the league saw he would be a 1st rndr, I love the kid. Think the world of him but I don’t think he’s only better than DHB I think he’s better just about every rec we have DHB included. Ford is just special and those who think I’m taking up for DHB are flat out crazy…………..if you say anything positive about this kid you freakin dumbells think someone is making excuses for him. I’m not!!

    I’m stating my opinion about where he is as a player, that giving my personal opinion whether you agree or not. No one can make excuses for his first two years. I’m saying I think he has a chance to have a solid year………….period

    You don’t have to agree with me, say your peace I have no problem with that.

  147. priesttj Says:

    hey idiot Ford is probably faster than DHB he was drafted by the same man…………..period

  148. guest123 Says:

    Would you rather have DHB over Nicks, Maclin, Britt, or Harvin?

  149. priesttj Says:

    What I don’t like or put up with in here is if you dissent from the opinion of the masses in here people get upset. As if, why aren’t you saying what the rest of us are saying. You can have an opinion of your own without people taking it persoanlly. There’s only a handful of people in here I agree with on anything.

    I don’t follow crowds I follow my own opinion based on my own examination of the facts. The rest of you parrott whatever the rest say so’s you don’t get lambasted. I couldn’t care less in fact I rather enjoy the fact that you don’t agree.

  150. guest123 Says:

    It’s a new year, everyone technically has the “chance” at a solid year. But realistically, it will take an improvement of monumental proportions to keep DHB in our starting lineup putting up a handful of catches here and there. As a NFL starting WR, he’s at or near the very bottom of the list in this criteria. He needs to “break out” to just be under-avg.

  151. priesttj Says:

    Guest123……whatever!

    I have alreayd answered that question adnauseum, I would’ve never drafted DHB AT ALL………….period

    But that doesn’t preclude me from having an objective opinion of the kid like it does YOU!

  152. guest123 Says:

    I don’t call anyone idiots. I think myself to be above petty insults. Those are intellectual white flags. I like to let my comments speak on my behalf. I don’t resort to attacks, jabs, insults. But no worries friend, I have thick skin.

  153. DKnight007 Says:

    I wish the Raiders would do Hard Knocks…but they won’t.

    The team that should do it is the Green Bay Packers pr Philly Eagles quite honestly.

  154. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Priest,

    I don’t think it is in your system to be negative towards an Oakland Raiders player.

    I apprecaite the passion you have towards our guys, and your willingness to stick through it all, thick and thin.

    But if DHB continues to bust, and is waived and out of the league in a handful of years (hopefully not but could happen) I still don’t think you will ever say, “DHB just sucked and that was an awful draft pick”.

    You will still toe the company line, that he just didn’t quite do this or that, and that everyone else thought he was a 1st rounder, and blah blah blah.

    I think it is the difference between older and younger Nation members. The Raiders have been a major disappointment my entire life, I’ve never seen them win a Super Bowl, and I honestly don’t think I ever will. So it’s easier for me to revert to what I have seen my whole life, and easier for you to spin me a web about Cliff Branch, who I never saw play.

    Make sense?

  155. guest123 Says:

    :)

  156. guest123 Says:

    @153…

    I’d be interested in Detroit.

  157. priesttj Says:

    JFB shutup man, you know you I know myself. You don’t know what I would say or have said in the past. Speak for yourself son.

  158. guest123 Says:

    That is sad JFB, that you didn’t get to see the golden years. As old generation Raider Nation, I can tell you it was something special. But even if the Raiders do win again, it will never be the same. The Raiders of old who would bully and torment the opponent and laugh at them when they were down are long gone. It was another era.

  159. guest123 Says:

    Priesttj:

    You seem to be circling the wagons with DHB. Why do you do this? For someone you yourself claim we shouldn’t have drafted? Are you on the payroll?

  160. priesttj Says:

    And no it doesn’t make sense to me it sounds like you are bitter and that’s where your reaction comes form. Well you didn’t see it and most in here didn’t see it they don’t know this organixaton like they THINK they do. You guys have a jaded media interpretated opinion of this organization and you have nothing else to go on unfortunately………..We’lll never agree on much at all…..I’ve seen too much.

    You’ve seen little or next to nothing.

  161. guest123 Says:

    ….closing my eyes and thinking “conspiracy theory”…..

  162. RAIDER Says:

    Davy Jones, since the team started losing, Davis supporters have made being a Raider fan absolutely joyless for anyone who criticizes Al. That’s a fact.

  163. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation.

  164. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, if I have an obsession with Al Davis just because I don’t like him, doesn’t that mean you have an obsession with the 49ers? The Broncos? The Chargers? Me? Aren’t you obsessed with me, Bauce? According to your logic…

  165. RAIDER Says:

    MB already admitted that the reason he says racist things about O bama is because his feelings are still hurt about people making fun of Bush.

  166. guest123 Says:

    Another speedy guy taken in the 3rd round of that ill-fated 2009 draft when we took DHB was Pittsburgh WR Mike Wallace.

  167. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!

  168. Thec07 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
    Ford is the only WR with the “My Ball” mentality on the Raiders.

    ++++++++++++

    Yep…thats insticts, cant teach that, the greats are born with it…

  169. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    DHB is far from a bad pick at this point…but he is a dubious one. All he can do is keep getting better — and try to overcome the label that says he can’t catch. I’d argue that.

    Throw a catchable ball to DHB 10 times, and I’d bet he catches 7 of them. Whether he’s smoove and natural while doing it is another matter…but, it wouldn’t matter as long as he caught the ball. Can’t develop faith in a guy until you have enough faith to throw to him in the first place…and Jason Campbell’s timing/release difficulties last year hurt DHB’s progress more than we’ll ever know.

    By most respected scouts and GM’s, BHP was rated in the top 10 of all WR’s drafted that year. On occasion they’re ALL wrong, but that’s a very rare occasion. There isn’t a respected football man out there who would throw DHB on the discard pile right now.

    40 catches this year?? That would be good enough for me…especially if the other WR’s are getting plenty of balls their way…it means the Offense is working.

    When he hits his stride (IF he ever hits it), DHB will be a star. And we’ll all be happy we toughed it out with the guy.

  170. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    “sign me down for Aryan nation”

  171. RAIDER Says:

    Canuck, you claimed victory in an argument with me because I didn’t post anything for like 5 minutes. That’s as childish as it gets.

  172. Thec07 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
    Another speedy guy taken in the 3rd round of that ill-fated 2009 draft when we took DHB was Pittsburgh WR Mike Wallace.

    ++++++++++++
    mwallace is hard…A taller version of JFORD…

  173. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    DHB is far from a bad pick at this point…but he is a dubious one.
    ——————————————-
    ??????????????, Too funny.

  174. RAIDER Says:

    The Raiders won’t do hard knocks because Al Davis doesn’t want anyone to see how bizarre and chaotic the environment is at a Raiders’ training camp.

  175. Thec07 Says:

    DMOORE catches a very nice ball, and has good insticts… He is a footballer…Not a project…

    The way colleges are ran, a first rd pick is expected to step right in and contribute immediately.

    DHB still has the “training wheels” on…

  176. Buckeyeraider Says:

    How old are you Vegas? early 30’s? That’s a shame you didn’t get to see Hendricks, Alzado and the gang in action.

    I’m not an oldtimer like Kell or TJ who remember the golden age of the laet sixties and seventies.

    I guess I was about 11 or 12 when Kenny King was racing down the sideline carrying that ball like a loaf of bread in SB XV. Watched Marcus dominate. I was a senior when Bo ran over the Boz.

    No worries. I think the Raiders could be on the verge of going on a nice lil run like they did in the early nineties under Shell, or 2000’s under Gruden.

    Just like under Chuckie they took the step up from the 4-12, 5-11 dregs to 8-8 mediocrity. Now they need to take the next step.

    There is some exciting young talent to build on. They aren’t there yet. Like you, I’m concerned about the turnover on the O-line.

    All you have to do is get a ticket to the dance, though. Like I said earlier, they have as good as chance as anyone to win the west. Get into the tournement and you’ve got a chance. Who would’ve picked the Cards a few years back? They came awfully close.

    The Raiders could be closer to getting back to the show than you think. Next couple of years if they keep drafting well. Wishful thinking, maybe.

    We’ll see.

  177. KoolKell Says:

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Throw a catchable ball to DHB 10 times, and I’d bet he catches 7 of them.
    ——————————————–
    Yeah, if you’re playing catch with him in the backyard, perhaps.

  178. Thec07 Says:

    When he hits his stride (IF he ever hits it), DHB will be a star. And we’ll all be happy we toughed it out with the guy.
    ++++++++++++++++

    I hope so… He is going to get pushed by DMOORE though…

  179. RAIDER Says:

    In case anyone missed it earlier:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    “sign me down for Aryan nation”

  180. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “mwallace is hard…”

    did you touch his Johnson?

  181. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Here’s hoping ALL the Raiders young receivers turn into stars. DMoore carries himself like one in pads, that’s for sure. He looks as ready as any WR coming out…from any round’s picks this year.

    KK — Why doesn’t it surprise me you don’t know there’s a difference between bad and dubious? Too bad Al didn’t pay more for your skooolin!

  182. guest123 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    DMOORE catches a very nice ball, and has good insticts… He is a footballer…Not a project…

    ****************

    I agree about the hands part. He catches a nice ball, good instincts, but he rarely beats the DB’s by more than a half step. And I don’t think the SEC DB’s are NFL caliber.

  183. Thec07 Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
    “mwallace is hard…”

    did you touch his Johnson?
    ++++++++++

    Nope I dont swing that way…Its a term typically used to describe someone being very good at what the do…

  184. Thec07 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
    Thec07 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    DMOORE catches a very nice ball, and has good insticts… He is a footballer…Not a project…

    ****************

    I agree about the hands part. He catches a nice ball, good instincts, but he rarely beats the DB’s by more than a half step. And I don’t think the SEC DB’s are NFL caliber.
    +++++++++

    imagine those traits on DHB…

  185. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Most NFL catches are caught in traffic…by the guy willing to go get that ball.

    Denarius Moore finds a way to get open — even when covered by more than one guy — and he finds a way to come down with the ball.

    A guy who catches in traffic? A sure-handed WR?? Just what the doctor ordered!

  186. guest123 Says:

    2009 WR Draft Class

    Besides: Crabtree, Maclin, Nicks, Harvin, M Wallace, M Thomas (JAX), Johnny Knox, heck even Brian Robiskie had better stats than DHB last year.

  187. Thec07 Says:

    A guy who catches in traffic? A sure-handed WR?? Just what the doctor ordered!

    +++++++++++++

    Yep….On record as saying he will be Rookie Of The NATION…

    Only way DHB will be seeing the field is to give schallens a breather….

  188. r8eray Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
    Thec07 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    DMOORE catches a very nice ball, and has good insticts… He is a footballer…Not a project…

    ****************

    I agree about the hands part. He catches a nice ball, good instincts, but he rarely beats the DB’s by more than a half step. And I don’t think the SEC DB’s are NFL caliber.
    +++++++++

    imagine those traits on DHB…

    ——

    “IMAGINE” KEY WORD!
    Don’t see that happening…but it would be nice!

  189. Thec07 Says:

    LMURPHY, and DHB are on notice…I like LURPHY however the drops and him having “gator limbs” will need to cease or he too will be relegated…

  190. guest123 Says:

    +++++++++

    imagine those traits on DHB…

    ************

    I like Moore as a possesion receiver, one that goes over the middle and takes the body shot to get the pass. He’s not the guy to run by the defense. Still he can be very valuable if he sticks. I think a healthy Chaz will have something to say about that though.

  191. Thec07 Says:

    “IMAGINE” KEY WORD!
    Don’t see that happening…but it would be nice!
    +++++++

    Yep…I am waiting hoping this young man breaks out…

  192. Thec07 Says:

    guest123 Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    +++++++++

    imagine those traits on DHB…

    ************

    I like Moore as a possesion receiver, one that goes over the middle and takes the body shot to get the pass. He’s not the guy to run by the defense. Still he can be very valuable if he sticks. I think a healthy Chaz will have something to say about that though.
    +++++++++++

    Competitions will be tough that I am sure…only sure WR we have is last years RON…JFORD…

  193. Thec07 Says:

    LTR NATION…

  194. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    R.I.P. Harmon Killebrew

  195. HayesDaze37 Says:

    DHB’s up against it for playing time…it’s absolutely time for him to flat-out win the job. Only way he can carry his load is if we actually give it to him, though. If and when the preseason happens (even if it’s just 2 games), watch for DHB to be thrown to a lot. If he’s ready, we’ll know it in a hurry.

  196. guest123 Says:

    Murphy after coming back from the clavicle injury seemed to have the alligator arms and butterfingers. Hope he comes into this year with the attitude he had during the TC and first part of last year. He was becoming a beast. I agree he needs to be put on notice.

  197. priesttj Says:

    I think Bauce got roped into that one……..I have way too much respect for youngblood than to think he gave that comment a ton of thought. The Aryan Nation is a notorious hate group. That thinks ONLY pure white people are civilized and deserving of any form of supremacy. They hate and kill every other race on earth……….think about that for a second.

  198. RAIDER Says:

    Hayes, where I can see highlights of Moore going up the middle and making catches in traffic? I want to see if the secondaries he’s played against in college even closely resemble what he’ll be facing in the NFL.

  199. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Chase your own stinky tail, troll…

  200. RAIDER Says:

    priest, all I can do is quote him. To give him the benefit of the doubt, there was a context. He was saying that he agrees with “aryans”, so to speak, on health care. But his poor choice of words are going to haunt him.

  201. RAIDER Says:

    So, Hayes, are you basically admitting that the college secondaries that big bad Denarius Moore had gone up the middle on aren’t even close to the caliber of secondaries he’ll face in the NFL?

  202. r8eray Says:

    If you get a chance check out ESPN/NFL the Raiders have about 4-5 headlines!

    1. Asomugha

    2. Scouts Inc. Raiders D-Line best in NFL

    3. Ford is driven

    4. Raiders are #3 in Helmets style

    5. DMC a top 10 RB

  203. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Is there an argument that says college secondaries are even close to the caliber of NFL secondaries??

    No.

    Keep chasin’ that tail looking for attention, troll.

  204. RAIDER Says:

    Why does ESPN call it “violence” when it happens in soccer matches abroad, while they call it a “brawl” when it happens in an American sport?

  205. RAIDER Says:

    So then, Hayes, why are you basically stating as fact that Moore will be a threat up the middle, and can catch the ball in traffic, when you yourself admit that college secondaries are nowhere near the caliber of NFL secondaries? Shouldn’t you wait until you’ve seen him against a few NFL defenses before you can say for sure that he can go up the middle and catch it in traffic in this league? Do you realize how hard it is to go up the middle in the NFL? Players have had their necks broken.

  206. RAIDER Says:

    What about Arnold? Bastard child? Wow. The party of moral values strikes again.

    Hasta la vista, Arn. You won’t be back.

  207. r8eray Says:

    Raiders, Bears could be good destinations for Ochocinco

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fe0475/article/raiders-bears-could-be-good-destinations-for-ochocinco

  208. priesttj Says:

    Hayes if you take the time to explain everything you say you’ll be here to the end of the year an dthey still wont get it.

    All you can do is go by what you saw and I saw the same thing. The kid looks like a complete rec’r they relied on him to do a lot. IMO based on his college tape he is the most complete WR we’ve drafted out of these kids we have right now.

    But I also saw the same thing in JLH coming out, he caught everything this kids is just bigger.

  209. Buckeyeraider Says:

    I think DMoore is a very intriguing sounding prospect. I think he’ll push for some playing time as a rookie. Somebody posted a link to his highlights right after the draft. He did indeed fight through double teams to come down with the ball. The SEC is supposed to be the Triple-A of college ball. With the best athletes and best teams.

    Here’s Moore’s evaluation from Lindy’s NFL Scout.com draft preview:

    Denarius Moore, Tennesee
    6-1,195 40 Time:4.49 5th round

    Positives: Well rounded prospect. Soft, natural hands, can snatch in traffic, and high points in space. Excellent “trajectory assessment” of thrown ball, especially off-target throws–adjusts his route immediately to the correct course, straight to where the ball will be when it descends. Disciplined route runner. Good effort and technique blocking. Consistant deep threat. Two year starter emerged during fine senior season.

    Negatives: Didn’t do much as a kick returner in limited chances. Thin build, not a dominant blocker. While fast and shifty, isn’t elite in either category. Shut down by better competition, although it’s fair to point out the entire Vols offense struggled during his career.

    In our view: Moore overcame three different head coaches in three years, as well as terribly inconsistant quarterback play, to establish himself as a legit NFL prospect during his senior year, when he averaged 21 yards per catch. Smooth and NFL ready, Moore projects well as a No. 2 receiver, offering sound route running, consistant hands and proven ability to go deep and make the tough catch.

    Like I said right after the draft. He sounds pretty damn good. So how is he a 5th rd pick. Was the talent pool at WR THAT deep? Sounds like the raiders could have another potential steal and Jacoby Ford like prospect on hand. Maybe not as fast. The guy will have to prove it, but sounds promising.

  210. priesttj Says:

    He is a more complete rec’r than Ford when the scouts says he runs good routes. That is exzactly what you see on film. He gets open but his QB was a freshman so he didn’t get the ball as much as he should’ve. But that scouting report is exactly what I saw.

  211. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    207.r8eray Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Raiders, Bears could be good destinations for Ochocinco

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fe0475/article/raiders-bears-could-be-good-destinations-for-ochocinco

    ————————————

    Thanks for the article. Chad will never wear a Raiders uniform. I keep teeling everyone the Raiders are going in another direction. The only veterans we have taken since Als free agent $ spree (Hall, walker, etc, LMAO!!!)is over. The only vets Al puts has money on our players with a solid background and work ethic. Locker room distractions are out and that is what Chad is. We pasted on TO when we really needed a WR. Why wpuld we take Chad now and our WR’s are showing potential? It won’t happen.

  212. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    May be a winner! : )
    ————————————–
    209.Buckeyeraider Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    I think DMoore is a very intriguing sounding prospect. I think he’ll push for some playing time as a rookie. Somebody posted a link to his highlights right after the draft. He did indeed fight through double teams to come down with the ball. The SEC is supposed to be the Triple-A of college ball. With the best athletes and best teams.

    Here’s Moore’s evaluation from Lindy’s NFL Scout.com draft preview:

    Denarius Moore, Tennesee
    6-1,195 40 Time:4.49 5th round

    Positives: Well rounded prospect. Soft, natural hands, can snatch in traffic, and high points in space. Excellent “trajectory assessment” of thrown ball, especially off-target throws–adjusts his route immediately to the correct course, straight to where the ball will be when it descends. Disciplined route runner. Good effort and technique blocking. Consistant deep threat. Two year starter emerged during fine senior season.

    Negatives: Didn’t do much as a kick returner in limited chances. Thin build, not a dominant blocker. While fast and shifty, isn’t elite in either category. Shut down by better competition, although it’s fair to point out the entire Vols offense struggled during his career.

    In our view: Moore overcame three different head coaches in three years, as well as terribly inconsistant quarterback play, to establish himself as a legit NFL prospect during his senior year, when he averaged 21 yards per catch. Smooth and NFL ready, Moore projects well as a No. 2 receiver, offering sound route running, consistant hands and proven ability to go deep and make the tough catch.

    Like I said right after the draft. He sounds pretty damn good. So how is he a 5th rd pick. Was the talent pool at WR THAT deep? Sounds like the raiders could have another potential steal and Jacoby Ford like prospect on hand. Maybe not as fast. The guy will have to prove it, but sounds promising.

  213. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Moore does make his catches look real easy. He catches the ball away from his body and does not fight it. That is a good sign!

  214. RAIDER Says:

    priest, hayes doesn’t have to explain anything. I just asked him to give me one link to a highlight video where Moore goes up the middle on secondaries even remotely the caliber of NFL secondaries.

  215. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “5. DMC a top 10 RB”

    careful you will get screamed at by 100’s of myopic Raider fans who claim he was the MVP last season, as I did for pointing that very topic out.

  216. r8eray Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 9:27 am
    so 25 to 30 Raider players are expected at a Monday through Friday camp at an undisclosed location in the Atlanta area …

    here’s my list:

    Jason Campbell
    Kyle Boller
    Darren McFadden
    Michael Bennett
    Rock Cartwright
    DHB
    Louis Murphy
    Jacoby Ford
    Shaun Bodiford
    Damola Adeniji
    Brandon Myers
    Kevin Brock
    Bruce Campbell
    Daniel Loper
    Jared Veldheer
    Alex Parsons
    Roy Schuening

    Richard Seymour
    Tommy Kelly
    John Henderson
    Matt Shaughnessy
    Lamarr Houston
    Routt
    Eugene
    Branch
    S Brown
    CJ37
    Groves
    MCClain
    Goethel

    ————–

    It looks like you missed one…

    Taiwan Jones just tweeted…..ATL. 5 more days!

  217. Buckeyeraider Says:

    The 2 live Stews and Skip Bayless all agreed on ESPN First Take, that they’d like to see The Oakland Raiders on Hard Knocks, now that TB declined.

    They weren’t nesc. poking fun, either. They all said especially since Oakland started to “turn it around” last year.

    Don’t know that it’ll ever happen, due to AD’s love for secrecy. They did let the cameras in for that feel good story with that lil fella that wanted to tackle McFadden.

    So they did open up the veil of secrecy for the cameras. I think it might be wise, and some good PR.

    Like Jerry mentioned, it sounds like Hue is going to run a vocal and entertaining training camp (if there is one). They have some exciting young players like Ford and DMac to showcase to the nation.

    It’d surprise me if it happened, but I’d love to see it.

  218. Oakland Raiders Links That You’ll Want To See May 17, 2011 | Raiders Central | Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] Raiders’ players camp in Atlanta The “neutral site” Jason Campbell referred to in interviews last week in interviews with PFT Live and Sirius XM radio will apparently be in the Atlanta area. [...]

  219. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Usually a WR is given till his 3rd year to “break out”. If he hasn’t done it by then, the guy is put on the scrap heap with a bunch of other nobodies and never-weres. DHB can’t afford to just have a 40 catch season this year as a starter.

    ***

    Guest123,

    DHB may be like Brandon Lloyd, who finally matures and becomes a stud WR at 29 years old in his 8th NFL season with his 4th different football team

    Let’s hope that isn’t the case!

  220. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It looks like you missed one…

    Taiwan Jones just tweeted…..ATL. 5 more days!

    ***

    ray,

    I didn’t think that draft picks would be there since the Raiders can’t get them under contract. Same thing with tendered players who didn’t sign in time, RFA’s & UFA’s. HUGE risk involved

    nice to see that TJ is hungry. Let’s hope he can shed the “injury & fumble prone” label like DMAC did last season!

  221. r8eray Says:

    RR, same here…I guessing he wont be the only rookie there either!

  222. priesttj Says:

    I know you guys won’t believe this but you are focusing on the wrong guy. Mr Davis will leave that up to Hue Jackson as far as hardknocks is concerned. Many think Mr Davis doesn’t want to be exposed he has a say on what will be shown and how far they go. Whatever thye do you’ll rarely ever see him. Mr Davis has ot been one for the spotlight in well over 10 years in fact since he was in LA. You rarely hear from him nor does the media ever see him personally.

    He’s always upstairs in his office and rarely comes down only to leave. When he leaves he comes down the back of the facility gets into the car behind a tal gate and is driven home. The only wyab you can see him is go to his office and “Fudge” guards the door like a pit bull. I’ve been trying to get her to take pictures of hos office for me for years. She won’t…

    So if they do Hard knocks it’s going to be Hue the coaches and the team because Mr Davis aint gonna have it…………….period

  223. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why would Hue waste snaps and plays on DHB, when guys like Ford and Murphy consistantly perform better?

    DHB had his scholarships years, and Hue was putting an end to that at the end of last year. Unless DHB comes out with guns-blazing the beginning of next year, I would expect another 30 catch 400 yard 1 TD season from him.

    ***

    JFB,

    what are you talking about? Hue Jackson didn’t bench DHB at the end of last season. DHB started 14 games last year. He missed the Steelers game with a hamstring injury and he didn’t start but played sparingly against Miami the following week (got no catches & 1 reverse) – then DHB started the final 5 weeks

    in an interview last season, Hue Jax said that DHB is capable of an 8-catch, 228 yard, 3 TD performance. He said “it’s coming” and dispelled the notion that DHB can’t catch and isn’t doing his job. We didn’t draft any WR’s until Round 5, either. Which means WR is hardly a need. Sanjay Lal was retained and Moore basically just replaces JLH (UFA). Hue said that Ausberry may be a TE

    Where do you guys come up with this other stuff?

    DHB, Murphy, Ford, Schilens & Moore just have to play better. PERIOD. thats what it boils down to. Nick Miller might be the 6th WR if Ausberry fails to impress or Chaz trips on his own shoelaces again

  224. RAIDER Says:

    priest, you want us to believe it will be up to Hue whether or not Hard Knocks is filmed in Oakland? Hilarious. Al Davis would never allow it because he doesn’t want the world to know how chaotic and bizarre the environment is at Raiders’ training camps.

  225. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Mr Davis will leave that up to Hue Jackson as far as hardknocks is concerned

    ***

    Hard Knocks = a state of misfortune or affliction; a life of hardship

    Wayne Valley and Ed McGah know all about it thanks to Coach Davis!

  226. priesttj Says:

    I hope they don’t try to make Ausberry a TE because I just think he’s got what we neeed as a posession WR I’ve been a hude fan of this kid for a couple of years can hardly believe we have him. He can play he’s not as talented as Moore but the kid is a big physically gifted rec’r capable of making some very tough catches he just needs to be developed I think he can be everything we want Chaz to be.

  227. Bauce Rules Says:

    Yes chad johnson is best option for oakland if they want a vet wr! good post Ray!

  228. KoolKell Says:

    Another reason why there will be No Raiders on HardKnocks, Imo, is that the Raiders are totally disdainful on their fans.

  229. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation. What a piece of…s..t.

  230. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Belichick assumes there will be no OTAs; playbook will be reduced

    -PFT

    ***

    will the Raiders reduce Al Saunders’ 600 page playbook to 300 to accommodate Lal & the Raiders young wides?

    no OTA’s would be disaster for Oakland. I can’t think of one other team with 4 new starters on the O-Line, 2 new OL coaches, a new HC, a new OC, no QB Coach and a WR Corps whose leading receiver only caught 41 balls

  231. Bauce Rules Says:

    JHILL…….as usual u just dont get it my friend. OG is very vital for us in a power scheme. You just dont plug guys in like the zbs. Loper sucks man. He isnt a starter at all and stunk in the Texans game. We will have a young Tackle combo and a rookie center. We need two good vets to help them when they struggle

  232. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, just imagine what would be revealed on a Raiders’ Hard Knocks. Players running to Al to circumvent Hue Jackson. Al chastising his coaches. Al changing game plans. Al firing coaches. Coach fights. Imagine that, camera cuts to a room, one of the assistants has a cut on his face. People are yelling and cussing, holding people back. Go ahead, bring Hard Knocks to Oakland. It’s good train wreck t.v., I’ll give it that.

  233. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, explain.

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    “sign me down for Aryan nation”

  234. RaiderRockstar Says:

    chad johnson is best option for oakland if they want a vet wr!

    ***

    no Ocho!

  235. Bauce Rules Says:

    And Jhill u want mediocre guards to play with rookies basically….so smart lol. When teams are disguising blitzes thru the A and B gaps those vets will spot that shhhhht quickly. we badly need a guy like Maankins and Dahl

  236. RAIDER Says:

    Hello? Bauce? Brien? You said some interesting things this morning. Care to explain?

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  237. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JHILL…….as usual u just dont get it my friend.

    ***

    BAUCE,

    never argue with a film junkie!

  238. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR….just read entire posts and you will see what I said to Mista

  239. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation. What a dumb piece of…s..t.

  240. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, I’ve read your entire post.

    You’re willing to join a white supremacist organization because you disagree with O bama on health care?

  241. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell nice of u to chime in with ur usual garbage. Mista and I aint with the sl@bama healthcare crap and many on this site paint Mista as Aryan nation cuz he dont like the prez….and I said well put me down on aryan nation then then cuz i dont like dude either…….its called sarcasm. so much for u being educated lol

  242. r8eray Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    Kell, just imagine what would be revealed on a Raiders’ Hard Knocks. Players running to Al to circumvent Hue Jackson. Al chastising his coaches. Al changing game plans. Al firing coaches. Coach fights. Imagine that, camera cuts to a room, one of the assistants has a cut on his face. People are yelling and cussing, holding people back. Go ahead, bring Hard Knocks to Oakland. It’s good train wreck t.v., I’ll give it that.

    ———–

    Raider, you just described a producers/directors dream script for a show…Action, Drama, Suspense, Comedy what else could you ask for?

  243. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, we got you on the health care thing. But why this?

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  244. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation. What a dumb piece of…s..t.

    Figures all the talk about my wife.

  245. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation. What a dumb piece of…s..t.

    Figures all the talk about my wife. You piece of garbage.

  246. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR….mista gets the racist aryan tag for no good reason so i said put me down as aryan nation too then since ppl believe that bs….ive met mista face to face and he isnt at all

  247. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BAUCE,

    you don’t need to defend yourself or your comments to MR or Kell.

    just let the McDonald & Becker clown patrol catch’em and put’em away

  248. RAIDER Says:

    I’ve never in my life heard a black man even joke about joining a white supremacist organization. You want to talk about self hate, it doesn’t get more self hating than that. That is sick.

  249. priesttj Says:

    Bauce him not liking the Prez aint got nothing to do with my opinion of that fool. It’s much deeper than that. I respect your opinion of him but I don’t share it.

  250. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    What was Moore’s 40 time ?

    Thought I saw it listed as 4.38, but I could be wrong.

    If he did run a sub 4.4, isn’t it a bit odd that someone with that speed is branded as a ‘posession’ rcvr ?

    One similarity that DHB and Moore share is they both had utter garbage throwing to them in college. Can’t remember the Tenn QB name last year but the guy was horrendous in the few games I watched.

    Also, what was Moore’s average YPC, I thought it was very high. Another sign this is not merely a posession rcvr type of pick.

    Thanks to anyone that can clarify those numbers.

  251. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell…..what me and Mrs Kelly have together is none of ur biz…..appreciate it if you stayed out of our personal lives. thanks

  252. Bauce Rules Says:

    Never heard a blk man make a joke about racist white groups and him joining? Heard of Dave Chappelle? lol i win again

  253. Raider E Says:

    I dont mean to get personal, but isnt Bauce African American?

  254. RAIDER Says:

    I’ve always found it strange that Bauce/Brien, whatever, never stood up to MB’s racism. We know why now.

  255. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dallas wins tonight & Miami wins tomorrow

    Print That!

  256. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR….come on man you would love the Raiders on hard knocks….its perfect for ya my friend

  257. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    MR….mista gets the racist aryan tag for no good reason so i said put me down as aryan nation too then since ppl believe that bs….ive met mista face to face and he isnt at all
    ————————————
    You’re so gawdamned stupid! Actually you can BrownStains could be the same poster………..you’re both incredibility stupid and uninformed.

  258. r8eray Says:

    Big Baucee!!! What up homie?

  259. Bauce Rules Says:

    Dallas can win tonight all they want….wont win series OKC in 6

  260. RAIDER Says:

    Raider E, Bauce/Brien is black. Which makes this puzzling:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  261. Raider E Says:

    I thought so….

  262. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, clearly you’re going to root for the team with the most white players.

  263. Bauce Rules Says:

    Ray! man im chillin dawg! Just wishing this nfl thing can get resolved….our guys wanna play baby! 2011 we got our eyes set on Jan 2012!

  264. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol explain MR

  265. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, did I just see your wife at the barbershop getting his sideburns lined up ?

  266. Raider E Says:

    Anyone here ever take an intercultural communications course?

  267. KoolKell Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I’ve always found it strange that Bauce/Brien, whatever, never stood up to MB’s racism. We know why now.
    ——————————————-
    I’ve always suspected him of being a peckerwood.

  268. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, you’re the one who has the explaining to do.

  269. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol MR so i root for the Utah Jazz? BYU cougars? hahahahahahaha

  270. Buckeyeraider Says:

    Bauce,

    I’m not sure I’m with ya on the Chad OchoCinco thing, man. A couple of years ago, defenitely. I remember he was on Rome at the SB and was begging to be a Raider. He looked directly into the camera and said..AL, come an get me. Wanna be a Raider. I would’ve been all for it back then. He was a top flight WR, and his antics were fun loving and harmless. I thought his River Dance and some of his TD celebrations were funny.

    The Raiders desperately needed a vet WR. Hell, I was even ready to bite the bullet and sign T.O.

    Not anymore. Chad has kinda crossed the line, IMO. No longer is it fun loving TD celebrations but moreso Reality TV, tweeting, Media Whore wannabe. I think he’s more interested in being a celebrity than a football player anymore. Just my opinion.

    I know Palmer grew disgusted with his antics. And worse, even grumbled about his route running and ad libbing.

    I’m not sure Oaklands young, impressionable WR corps needs that circus coming to town. If a vet WR is needed maybe Ocho’s former teammate TH Housh, who’s supposedly not happy with his role in Baltimore.

    He also reportedly has a quirky, sometimes sulking personality, but he does do the dirty work over the middle. He might be an option.

    More than likely, The Raiders are going to count on this young group to grow up, and step up. Maybe that’s not such a bad idea. My feelings have kinda changed in the past year or so.

  271. MistaBrown Says:

    MR/BUST/DUST/GUST,
    I think Brien was being sarcastic. I see you and KK took the bait hook line & sinker. What a couple ignorant tits you 2 are. Such derelicts I think you are one in the same.
    _____

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Raider E, Bauce/Brien is black. Which makes this puzzling:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  272. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, I’m pretty much suspecting him of being a peckerwood, too.

    He gets mad when white people take up for black people. He never stood up to MB’s racism. Today, he says he wished to join the Aryan Nation. It’s starting to add up that way.

  273. raiderinpa Says:

    All, if you could only attend 1 Raiders home game this year would you go to the New England game to see Seymour bash Tom Gay-dy or Chicago to join the crowd in ripping on cry-baby Cutler?? Also, which one do you think is a more likely win for the Silver & Black??

    Chime in…

  274. RAIDER Says:

    Well, it’s Bauce’s fellow Aryan brother, MB.

  275. Bauce Rules Says:

    Its relieving to see how far we have come…..a blk guy and a white guy cant agree that this prez is super duper garbage without false accusations being tossed at em lol

  276. Harder2000 Says:

    Raider E Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Anyone here ever take an intercultural communications course?
    _____________________

    LOL

  277. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, we’re not criticizing you for agreeing with a white guy. We’re criticizing you for this:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  278. Raider E Says:

    A Peckerwood is not the equivalent of an Aryan, Kell.

  279. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, can we talk about your latest comments on DHB or are you going to grab your vag and run out of here?

  280. Bauce Rules Says:

    Housh is way done Buckeye…he lost more than Chad at this point. Chad is perfect for our young guys they lack charisma and dont know how to get open

  281. KoolKell Says:

    There’s not a shade of difference between BrownStains comments & Brien The Wannabe.

  282. RAIDER Says:

    Picture of Bauce and MB:

    http://tinyurl.com/7dwluy

  283. MistaBrown Says:

    Bauce I see your knee deep in slobbering libtards with mental disorders.

  284. KoolKell Says:

    Raider E Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    A Peckerwood is not the equivalent of an Aryan, Kell.
    —————————————
    No, what’s the diff?

  285. KoolKell Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Picture of Bauce and MB:

    http://tinyurl.com/7dwluy
    ———————————
    Yep, there they are. lmao………….

  286. RAIDER Says:

    MB, I respect you for finally admitting why you make racist comments about O bama. Your feelings are still hurt over people making fun of Bush. Touching.

  287. Raider E Says:

    Recieving core = SET

    May not like it or agree with it , but it is what it is.

  288. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR……u see all the posts today that led up to that comment? Come on stop spinning buddy its sad. I asked Mista why they think he is and he answered….and I responded with well sign me down then cuz Im not with the prez………..not difficult to grasp MR EXCEPT YOU ARE REACHING

  289. priesttj Says:

    Bauce how does that make him any worse than the rest of them that have sunk this country in a hot funky mess? How is it that he gets separted out?

  290. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E….u wanna bet that wr unit isnt set?

  291. MistaBrown Says:

    I thought only backward hillbilly’s with a gun rack use the word “peckerwood”.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    I’ve always suspected him of being a peckerwood.

  292. Raider E Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    Raider E Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    A Peckerwood is not the equivalent of an Aryan, Kell.
    —————————————
    No, what’s the diff?

    ————-

    On the streets or in the politics of a prison?

  293. MistaBrown Says:

    DHB is primed and ready for another breakout season, right tj ?

  294. Bauce Rules Says:

    Didnt hurt my feelings about Bush….didnt hurt his either lol

  295. Raider E Says:

    Depends on what you wanna bet, Bauce.

  296. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fools

    I’ve always thought you were really white, and a racist one to boot.

    You had me fooled with all the Bo-jizzle talk. but then again, what black folks actually speak like that?

    My bad.

  297. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E if im right dont ever come back to this site

  298. RAIDER Says:

    Raider E, fascinating, hair splitting argument as to what type of white person Brien wished to be like. I’m enlightened.

  299. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol now im white hahahahhahaha kell u can always meet me face to face

  300. MistaBrown Says:

    What makes him worse is that every american is far worse off today than they were 3 years ago.

    *Unemployment-up
    *Foreclosers-up
    *Debt- up
    *Gas prices – up
    *Inflation- skyrocketing
    *War in Libia – unpaid and a failure

    There you are tj, there’s the reason, go ahead and use your only card, the race card.
    _______

    Priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Bauce how does that make him any worse than the rest of them that have sunk this country in a hot funky mess? How is it that he gets separted out?

  301. MistaBrown Says:

    That fart sack doesn’t have the stones to meet you or me face 2 face.
    ____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Lol now im white hahahahhahaha kell u can always meet me face to face

  302. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol MR WHO I WANNA BE?…..u got nerve u are on here all day and night and love bashing white ppl….this is known fact

  303. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Lol now im white hahahahhahaha kell u can always meet me face to face
    ————————————
    Yeah, that’s what you claim……………lol.

  304. priesttj Says:

    No you are sucka how’s photos Hitler you reprinted for the mantle. Heil Hitler!! StankyBrown you don’t know squat about the game never have never will scumsuckin’ pig……….

  305. Raider E Says:

    Thats all you wanna bet? I can do that, but NO WELCHING like MR, Gusto, or whatever his handle is today. That dude still owes me 20 bucks on a Jamarcus will start the 2010 season as quarterback.

  306. Bauce Rules Says:

    wow….for all u huff clit lickers….espn just showed long td run week 4….guess what Huff did? lol

  307. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E….im a fair man i dont wanna do some crazy bet like for a G…..we also can thrown in some beer like I won from r8eray recently lol

  308. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    wow….for all u huff clit lickers….espn just showed long td run week 4….guess what Huff did? lo
    —————————————-
    Yet, you lick BrownStains clit. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww, yikes.

  309. Raider E Says:

    Well Gusto, all I can say is I didnt know the difference btween a Peckerwood and an Aryan until I was locked up for awhile. Very different groups on the inside and equally different on the street.

  310. MistaBrown Says:

    In case any of you missed this:
    _____

    Priesttj Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    I tell ya’ I’ve been watching the SD game

    I also watched DHB very closely and IMO he is a lot closer than people think to being a player. I wont make any predictions but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he has a very solid year.

  311. Bauce Rules Says:

    Yeah Raider E….im a fair guy….thrown some beer in as well

  312. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, didnt I see you crying like a little the other day about KK calling you names and you didn’t like it?
    LMAO
    _____

    Priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    No you are sucka how’s photos Hitler you reprinted for the mantle. Heil Hitler!! StankyBrown

  313. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol haha Kell is 60 years old…a real estate tycoon, former military big wig and has seen the world yet he has the commentary of an 8th grader

  314. MistaBrown Says:

    Lets keep it football tj, check your black panther/black theology hate speech garbage at the door, ok son?
    _____

    Priesttj Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    No you are sucka how’s photos Hitler you reprinted for the mantle. Heil Hitler!! StankyBrown

  315. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce, you’re a piece of schit.

  316. Raider E Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Raider E….im a fair man i dont wanna do some crazy bet like for a G…..we also can thrown in some beer like I won from r8eray recently lol

    ————

    Its funny you say that cause when I bet MR the 20 he made a huge issue about the fact that I only wanted to bet 20 bucks then the dude refused to even acknowledge he lost….Classic Shizz :)

  317. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell…..drexl,dell,mista, 707 raiders and r8eray have all met me…..to say Im white is laughable

  318. MistaBrown Says:

    Im gonna tell Becker na na na naaaaaaa na naaaaaaa
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Bauce, you’re a piece of schit.

  319. r8eray Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Bauce, you’re a piece of schit.

    ——

    More like a 5th Grader!

  320. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Kell…..drexl,dell,mista, 707 raiders and r8eray have all met me…..to say Im white is laughable
    ———————————————–
    All Bootlickers.

  321. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E….thats why u cant listen to nonsense kell and mr are chuckin right now. They lack testicular fortitude to say stuff to ppl’s faces and just lie all day

  322. Raider E Says:

    If you have a plan on how to work out the logistics, Im down for throwing in the beer. How much? A case? 12 pack? Dont think 6 is enough….

  323. MistaBrown Says:

    Looks like MR’s mom unplugged his pc.

    lol

  324. Bauce Rules Says:

    All bootlickers? u will never show up in the Lot on gameday and tell them that…especially Drexl

  325. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    I cannot imagine a Black Man saying sign me up for the Aryan Nation.

    You’re either white or terribly stupid, both possibly.

  326. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Isn’t there a t!tty bar or “gentlemens club” on every other corner in ATL?

  327. MistaBrown Says:

    tj, do we have a deal?

    You cut out the black theology/black panther talking points, stop the name calling you hate so much. And I wont repost your lunatic things more than 3x.

    :D

  328. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista….its his turn to clean his brother aka family cat’s litter box…..he is liike cartman…” but mooooooommmmm i wanna be on the computer…Respect my AUTHORITAH”

  329. MistaBrown Says:

    I cant imagine a grown man not seeing sarcasm right in front of his fat face.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Bauce Fool

    I cannot imagine a Black Man saying sign me up for the Aryan Nation.

  330. Bauce Rules Says:

    six beers? Raider E….im a major drinking machine…..IM JUST A DRUNK MACHINE AND I DONT WANT NO LIQUID UNLESS ITS BREW

  331. MistaBrown Says:

    KK’s idea of growth:

    -unemployment up
    -taxes up
    -foreclosers up
    -debt up
    -corruption up
    -inflation up
    -spending out of control

  332. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    six beers? Raider E….im a major drinking machine…..IM JUST A DRUNK MACHINE AND I DONT WANT NO LIQUID UNLESS ITS BREW
    ——————————————–
    That’s not all you are. You’re a piece of schit, too.

  333. Bauce Rules Says:

    Yeah Kell is so pro black married to a white woman lol

  334. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista dont mention that or u will be tagged a racist

  335. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    I imagine your father was a southern Bootlicker, too?

  336. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell a piece of schit works at Kane and Associates and is on a blog 3/4ths of the day arguing like a 16 yr old b-tch on facebook

  337. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, did you know there are now 36 million americans on food stamps?

    “The program, which helps poor people buy food, has seen enrollment jump by 4.707 million during 2009 amid a lingering economic downturn in the United States. Participation grew by 2 million people from May to August”

    1 in 8 americans on food stamps, now theres liberal economic growth!

  338. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    I imagine your father was a southern Bootlicker, too?
    One of them step&fetchit emmfers?

  339. Bauce Rules Says:

    My dad is not from the South…..try again

  340. MistaBrown Says:

    Geez Bauce, why are you so critical of the pres? Look what a snappy job our flunky marxist is doing!

  341. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    My dad is not from the South…..try again
    ————————————–
    The gutter?

  342. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista dropping facts or is he spewing more racist falsehoods?

  343. Raider E Says:

    Yeah, I like to drink heavily too, but mostly Whiskey. Thats why I said 6 aint gonna be enough.

  344. MistaBrown Says:

    If we give BO another 4 years the number of americans on food stamps could rise to 4 out of 8.

  345. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Mista dropping facts or is he spewing more racist falsehoods?
    —————————————–
    What do you think, dumbass?

  346. priesttj Says:

    Are you some kind of MORON StankyBrown to think that I would in anyway care to bargain on anythin g with your dumbass. I couldn’t care less what you post how often you post or what the hell you think…………you damn fool

    I do what the hell I want to do when I wnat to do it. You don’t approach me with NOTHING thinking for one second that you can influence anything I do with anything that you do.

    Now get yo’ dumbass outta my face forever…………you do what you do FREAK!!! stinking slimbag moron……..

  347. Bauce Rules Says:

    Gutter? lol Kell the ever so tight buttoned Elitist looking down on poor ppl lol…..thats CHANGE! YES WE CAN YES WE CAN

  348. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E…..what type of wihskey my friend?

  349. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell…..its a rhetorical question lol…..as usual u take bait everytime

  350. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Gutter? lol Kell the ever so tight buttoned Elitist looking down on poor ppl lol…..thats CHANGE! YES WE CAN YES WE CAN
    —————————————–
    I don’t look down on poor ppl. I look down on stupid ppl.

  351. Raider E Says:

    Usually Crown Black, but I have been known to splurge on a bottle of Single Barrel on occassion.

  352. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, I’m taking the bait alright. ;-)

  353. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista…dont worry about economy, education or housing……BO will dance again and shoot a jumper with an experience on TNT talking about the nba

  354. MistaBrown Says:

    Bauce,
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/12/news/economy/government_safety_net/index.htm

  355. MistaBrown Says:

    tj I thought you didnt like name calling!

    lmao

  356. Bauce Rules Says:

    Single Barrel is the ish man! Wild Turkey and Jim Beam bring a demon outta me tho

  357. Raider E Says:

    Dont know if youve ever been to Spokane WA., but the sin tax up here is unreal. Hard A is probaly more than double the price up here. A fifth of Crown Black is close to 50 bucks.

  358. MistaBrown Says:

    Bauce, go to google and type “number of americans on food stamps 2011″ theres about 5 million hits for that. Of course KK is completely in the dark on this.

    lmfao

  359. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista…..please dont put that up….racist talk not allowed in here

  360. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Single Barrel is the ish man! Wild Turkey and Jim Beam bring a demon outta me tho
    ———————————————-
    What do you know about fine whiskey, pootbutt?

  361. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, didnt thinkprogress or mediamatters tell you about pres BO’s record number of americans on food stamps?

    How does 36 million slip through the cracks?

  362. MistaBrown Says:

    Deserves reposting:
    It’s just as funny now as the first time I saw it..lol
    _____

    Priesttj Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    I tell ya’ I’ve been watching the SD game

    I also watched DHB very closely and IMO he is a lot closer than people think to being a player. I wont make any predictions but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he has a very solid year.

  363. Bauce Rules Says:

    Raider E….no schit? Thats not cool….I only been up to oregon and i dig their tax thing at leeast at da bar lol

  364. Twocents Says:

    “There is simply no other choice than this: either to abstain from interference in the free play of the market, or to delegate the entire management of production and distribution to the government. Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no middle way.”

    Ludwig von Mises

  365. MistaBrown Says:

    I tell ya’ I’ve been watching DHB through my scotch colored lenses and boy oh boy man the kid is hottttttttttttt hot hotttttttt, breakout year for this hard working kid!

    I tell ya’
    ;)

  366. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell i know nada about fine whiskey…..iim not apart of the upper crust of society that white wifey has turned u on to

  367. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, you ought to know about Food Stamps, I guess.

    You and that whole coackoach infested trailer park, you rent from.

  368. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, does your wife allow you to be on here 18hrs a day without supervision or do you have to sneak behind his back?

  369. Bauce Rules Says:

    DHB GOTTA show more….09 was atrocious but he had Hefty hefty Hef sack throwing him the ball…so 2010 hee improves but from 9 to 26 catches for his selection is unacceptable

  370. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lmao….behind his back hahahaha oh man im weak

  371. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Kell i know nada about fine whiskey…..iim not apart of the upper crust of society that white wifey has turned u on to
    ———————————-
    You stupid Mfo. Boy, my family was running Oakland long before you ever got here from chitlin switch.

  372. MistaBrown Says:

    I have no idea KK but there are roughly 36 million americans who would probably love to beat you to death with a tire iron for your lack of concern.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    BrownStains, you ought to know about Food Stamps, I guess.

  373. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista…kell is married to a white woman so he in no way can be viewed as racist

  374. r8eray Says:

    Reports are Nnamdi doesn’t want any part of the Texans!

  375. MistaBrown Says:

    They ran Oakland right into a ditch just like BO did the economy, you silly old goat.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    You stupid Mfo. Boy, my family was running Oakland long before you ever got here from chitlin switch.

  376. Bauce Rules Says:

    Haha the Kelly family was running Oakland….sure lol

  377. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    How many food stamp collectors in your klan?

  378. MistaBrown Says:

    LMFAO
    Well I think we can safely say he’s legally blind, if you saw his wife you might know what I’m sayin.
    _____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Mista…kell is married to a white woman so he in no way can be viewed as racist

  379. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell talking bad on Americans who arent in his tax bracket…typical

  380. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol Mista…kell jumps from black women and got him an ugly beastly white woman?

  381. MistaBrown Says:

    Yah he’s an ultra sensitive caring liberal, cant you tell?
    _______

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Kell talking bad on Americans who arent in his tax bracket…typical

  382. MistaBrown Says:

    Well theres wasn’t much competition for his beauty queen.
    _____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Lol Mista…kell jumps from black women and got him an ugly beastly white woman?

  383. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kelly family was running schit in Oakland….black power! Until they offered govt jobs and allowed them to date white women then kell switched up lol

  384. MistaBrown Says:

    tj?

  385. KoolKell Says:

    Ask

    Charlie Smith
    Raymond Chester
    George Atkinson
    Art Shell
    The Livingstons (Founders) down at East Bay Dragons Clubhouse

    If you know any of those people. But, you, You’re just a little pootbutt wannabe.

  386. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell’s wife prolly looks like “Alf”

  387. MistaBrown Says:

    Kells fam ran Oakland into a ditch like every time a liberal gets the keys to anything it winds up totaled.

  388. KoolKell Says:

    Prettiest thing in the world, baby.

  389. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kelly….u ran the fkin copy machine at the Black Panther headquarters

  390. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, where did you learn “peckerwood” from? Did your wife teach you that slang? He shouldn’t be learning you any of that thurr hillbilly slang.

  391. MistaBrown Says:

    Omg not only is he braindead but he’s legally blind too?
    ____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Prettiest thing in the world, baby.

  392. Bauce Rules Says:

    Haha Kell i doubt a pretty women would ever deal with u unless u kick out clean crisps 100 dollar bills for her services

  393. KoolKell Says:

    But, you two Trailer Trash types, I would imagine, are on the outside looking in, when it comes to women.

  394. MistaBrown Says:

    BO is giving out 100’s now ?
    ____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Haha Kell i doubt a pretty women would ever deal with u unless u kick out clean crisps 100 dollar bills for her services

  395. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell got a wife whose face looks like old left out beef

  396. MistaBrown Says:

    KK I’ve banged more blk women than you and I’m half your age. GTFO with that horse manure.

    lmao
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    But, you two Trailer Trash types, I would imagine, are on the outside looking in, when it comes to women.

  397. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell worships his wife…..he flosses his dentured teeth with her armpit hairs

  398. MistaBrown Says:

    LMAO
    Like a slice of bologna stuck to the side of a barn on a record hot day.
    ___

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    Kell got a wife whose face looks like old left out beef

  399. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kelly u havent had sex since Reagan was in office….who you fooling?

  400. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    KK I’ve banged more blk women than you and I’m half your age. GTFO with that horse manure.
    ___________________________________

    Nope, you’re too stupid.

  401. MistaBrown Says:

    C’mon Bauce you know KK’s wife won a few beauty pageants in his day…

  402. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell be poppin his wife’s back acne when he isnt on the blog

  403. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, did you notice how tj & MR left you totally hangin?

    lmfao

  404. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, blk women are beautiful you should have tried one back in the 70’s at least.

  405. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol mista…the Inner Beauty pageant i imagine

  406. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    The reason wannabee’s are wannabee’s is because they aint nothing else, comphrende?

    You’re on the outside looking in.

  407. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell with blk women? Maybe back in the Jim Crow south he was

  408. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, I don’t need or expect anybody here to back me.

    Totally not needed with idiots like you and Bree, ok?

  409. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell that was lame and not needed…..go to bed it nap time

  410. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, why do you and tj always call me names? You havent evolved past 3rd grade or is that what libtards do when they have nothing else?

  411. MistaBrown Says:

    Go to bed?
    He just wokeup…lol
    ____

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Kell that was lame and not needed…..go to bed it nap time

  412. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    Your conversation told an old playa like myself, that you were a wannabee a long time ago.

  413. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    How many in your klan collect food stamps?

  414. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    KK, did you notice how tj & MR left you totally hangin?

    lmfao
    ——————————————
    BrownStains, I speak for myself, I’m not in any gang, or cross-posting or anything.

    I can handle you and Bree, ok?

  415. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, nobody has posted in an hour besides you, me, and Bauce.

    I suppose there are many people watching you get a pounding and taking great joy in it.

    :D

  416. Bauce Rules Says:

    I fee like dancing! Someone got that recent sl@bama

  417. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, you are the most despised ingrate on Jerry’s blog, hands down……period

  418. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell this is worse job ever off handling then lol

  419. r8eray Says:

    Kell, is this your make believe wife???

    You could have done better….or maybe not!

    KoolKell’s twit pic!

    http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/803717321/54331863_cc67_75.jpg

  420. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell is first on most hated MR is second and for me HayesDayes37 is third

  421. r8eray Says:

    The Houston Chronicle’s Richard Justice passes along word that free agent Nnamdi Asomugha “doesn’t want any part” of the Texans.
    Justice doesn’t pass along any specifics, but it’s widely believed that Asomugha’s top priorities include playing for a contender. The Texans have that potential, but they’re certainly not there yet. We’ve yet to find anyone covering the Texans who believes owner Bob McNair would be willing to make the high-dollar investment in Asomugha, regardless.
    Related: Texans
    Source: Houston Chronicle

  422. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Kell is first on most hated MR is second and for me HayesDayes37 is third
    ————————————–
    Who cares?

    Naaaananaaaa. jeez.

  423. MistaBrown Says:

    The Texans dont know how lucky they are.
    ____

    R8eray Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    The Houston Chronicle’s Richard Justice passes along word that free agent Nnamdi Asomugha “doesn’t want any part” of the Texans.

  424. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, when your wife gets home and finds you on a blog for 10hrs straight crying your eyes out does he hold you or just let you break down?

  425. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell….when u die the funeral will be empty

  426. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    When the cockroaches come out at sundown in your trailer, do you leave?

  427. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell’s wife ignores him and then flips on remote to masturbate to ESPN

  428. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the trailer park blast is about as old as your polyester pj’s

  429. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    KK the trailer park blast is about as old as your polyester pj’s
    ————————————–
    Well, when are you gonna move out of there?

  430. Bauce Rules Says:

    Michael Kelly of Kane and Associates in Alameda is hated widely by everyone he works with

  431. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell please go to games this year……sec 215 is it?………CANT WAIT

  432. KoolKell Says:

    Lol.

  433. RAIDER Says:

    Bauce, you want to talk about people bashing their own race:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation

  434. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell hope u have the Kelly family with ya

  435. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Kell please go to games this year……sec 215 is it?………CANT WAIT
    ————————————-
    Pootbutt threats, pootbutt threats, every damned year.

  436. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR lol…..u done it for years….i was making a sarcastic reference iin how ppl view Mista….how difficult is that?

  437. Bauce Rules Says:

    Threat? Mfka its a promise….u already backed down in San Leandro

  438. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, I’ve never heard a black person say they wanted to be down with the Aryan nation, either. Not in Sac, not in Oakland, not in LA, not anywhere. Just in case Brien tries to turn it into a regional thing. lol. It is just bizarre. I’ve never seen a black person say anything like that. And he talks about white liberals hating their own race? lol. He just put on a display of self hatred today that is impossible to top.

  439. RAIDER Says:

    MB and Brien sure have each others’ backs today. Those skinhead types stick together.

  440. MistaBrown Says:

    MR still hungup on the Aryan post

    lmao

  441. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell make sure ur mixed daughter is there….everyone knows mixed broads got that good wet wet

  442. Bauce Rules Says:

    Yeah Mista….obviously MR reads what he wants….women do that lol

  443. RAIDER Says:

    Of course a lot of people are in food stamps, after Bush ruined our economy.

  444. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Threat? Mfka its a promise….u already backed down in San Leandro
    ————————————–
    Pootbutt, I think I’m still here, no?

  445. Bauce Rules Says:

    lol MR…..ever seen Dave Chappelle KKK skit? Dont lie that u never seen a blk person joke about that cuz whole world saw it

  446. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Yeah Mista….obviously MR reads what he wants….women do that lol
    —————————————-
    WTF do you know about women, pootbutt?

  447. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell u still there…yes u are right…there at ur computer still being a coward

  448. RAIDER Says:

    Look at how hard they have each others’ backs! MB is the most racist person here, and he and Brien are like a skinhead starsky and hutch. They’re just inseparable. You’d think after Brien’s gaffe today, he’d be trying a little harder to separate himself from noted racists. He and MB have their tongues in each others’ mouths.

  449. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell……..ive kicked more bzies to the curb than u have lambed in ur entrie 100 years on this planet

  450. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Kell u still there…yes u are right…there at ur computer still being a coward
    ——————————–
    Fk you pootbutt.

  451. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, you want to talk about being most hated, say what you said in here earlier out loud anywhere in Oakland.

  452. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    Kell……..ive kicked more bzies to the curb than u have lambed in ur entrie 100 years on this planet
    ———————————–
    You haven’t done a thing. That’s why you’re such a desperate little wannabe, ok?

  453. Bauce Rules Says:

    Mista is a known racist cuz he disses the prez lol….amazing

  454. KoolKell Says:

    Little pootbutt dreaming in chat rooms.

  455. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR…..im in Oakland now and no blk person would give a schit cuz the prez now looks awful to them too

  456. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Pootbutt

    When I was your age I was out seeing the world. Not sitting in chat rooms all day, challenging old men to a fight. Lmao.

  457. RAIDER Says:

    1) Is good friends with MB, a noted racist who calls the president “purple lips”. Sticks up for MB at all costs.

    2) Has repeatedly expressed anger toward whites who take up for any black cause. Calls them race traitors.

    3) Said he wants to join the “Aryans”. Because he disagrees with O bama on health care, which brings us to 4…

    4) Hates B arack O bama. Says the same things about O bama as most right wing racists do.

    5) Is now threatening a black man, trying to get him to meet up for a fist fight.

    Not only do I wonder if Brien is white, I wonder if he’s David Duke himself.

  458. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    MR…..im in Oakland now and no blk person would give a schit cuz the prez now looks awful to them too
    —————————————–
    You’re a damned liar.

  459. Bauce Rules Says:

    Michael Kelly….not my fault u hate ur life so much. I wake with a big smile every morning cuz i know u soon wont be waking up too many more days

  460. DutchRaider77 Says:

    R8eray Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    The Houston Chronicle’s Richard Justice passes along word that free agent Nnamdi Asomugha “doesn’t want any part” of the Texans.

    ____________________________________________________

    LMAO, they are going to a 3-4 and they are moving Mario Williams to OLB. It is going to be a disaster.

  461. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, Oakland hates O bama? Never heard of that.

  462. Twocents Says:

    I think it would more accurate to say that there is a long line of ruling elite that have been ruining the economy. My guess is that we could start with Woodrow Wilson.

  463. RAIDER Says:

    Oh, I think I know what you mean, Brien. White people in Oakland hate O bama. After all, that’s clearly who you represent.

  464. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell u were in the day getting beat up byu your drill sgt….seeing world in one eye must be great lol….and im not on blog all day……go look at archives and u will be exposed as a liar again lol

  465. KoolKell Says:

    Lil Pootbutt

    When I was your age I was out seeing the world, Not sitting in chat rooms all day, talking about how many bishes you fantasize about. Lmao.

    See what I’m saying?

  466. RAIDER Says:

    TwoCents, we had the best economy in the history of our nation in the late ’90s. Went south the minute Bush got into office.

  467. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol david duke hahaha

  468. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell u saw the world and brought back an uglyy white b^tch lol…..guess world did u no favors

  469. Twocents Says:

    Raider, We had a bubble economy created by the Fed’s easy money policy. Our currency has been devalued by 98% since 1913.

  470. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell u when u were my age they had no planes or enough ships for u to travel all over……..next

  471. KoolKell Says:

    On the other hand, your mamma is a skank btch, and you didn’t have any choice?

  472. Bauce Rules Says:

    Twocents<—–exactly and what happened in 1913? thank u

  473. RAIDER Says:

    I’m willing to bet you don’t even know what a “bubble economy” is, twocents. And what in the hell is the “Fed Easy Money” policy? Did you just make that up? Spin it all you want, we had a good economy in the late ’90s. Started going to crap the minute Bush took office. Imploded just before Bush left office.

  474. MistaBrown Says:

    Nothing but class.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    On the other hand, your mamma is a skank btch, and you didn’t have any choice?

  475. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, at least Kell can go to his grave knowing he never once wished to be part of the Aryan Nation.

  476. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    I was in Cancun & Copenhagen last year.
    Will be in Shanghai & Bejing this year.

    If you find a $20 lady somewhere this year, you’ll be lucky.

  477. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol 60 years old doing mom jokes still

  478. Bauce Rules Says:

    China woooooooh that surely is one of the places on my to do list lol

  479. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Lol 60 years old doing mom jokes still
    —————————————
    I know how to talk to you little puzies.

  480. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Housh is way done Buckeye…he lost more than Chad at this point

    ***

    T.J. Housh only started 2 games last year and was active for all 16

    only finished with 30 catches for 398 yards & 3 TD’s

    He turns 34 years old in September. I’ll still take him as our possession WR over Chaz Schilens. We need a 3rd down chain mover. A big body that isn’t afraid o cross the middle and isn’t made of glass

    Houshmandzadeh would be cheap and fits the mold. Plus he’s a West Coast guy (born in Victorville , CA. Played for Barstow HS, Oregon State and the Seahawks in 2009)

  481. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    China woooooooh that surely is one of the places on my to do list lol
    ————————————–
    Hehe, I’m sure it is.

  482. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell i would never insult your parents…they are deceased since Reconstruction when u were a young man…..thats not cool if i did

  483. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Reports are Nnamdi doesn’t want any part of the Texans!

    ***

    ray,

    I’m gonna laugh if Washington signs him to play opposite DeAngelo (again) and then promptly disposes of McNabb & Haynesworth to make room!

  484. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Fool

    I guess your parents never got the Jim Crow mud off their feet, eh?

  485. Twocents Says:

    Bauce, The Banksters finally got their way and created the Federal Reserve. It’s interesting that the bloodiest century in mankinds history followed.

  486. Bauce Rules Says:

    RRS……go read ravens boards….they dont like dude and he is tragically slow now

  487. Bauce Rules Says:

    Twocents….yep and sl@bama supports Fed Reserve

  488. Nnamdi21 Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    TwoCents, we had the best economy in the history of our nation in the late ’90s. Went south the minute Bush got into office.

    ====================

    Idiots are able to cleanly dismiss anything like truth reason, logic and verifiable facts. Thats how they stay Republican.

    Clinton left office with….$127-$350 BILLION dolalr SURPLUS.

    G Dub left office with a $13 TRILLION dollar DEFICIT.

    Many of those trillions un-accounted for.

  489. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    RRS……go read ravens boards….they dont like dude and he is tragically slow now
    ————————————–
    Ravens Boards, Raiders Boards, Twitters all the Players….

    Lil Pootbutt

    When I was your age I was out seeing the world, Not sitting in chat rooms all day, Lmao.

    See what I’m saying?

  490. Bauce Rules Says:

    I already used Jim Crow line on u….get ur own material

  491. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Twocents….yep and sl@bama supports Fed Reserve
    —————————————-
    Aaah, so you are a peckerwood possum eater!

  492. Nnamdi21 Says:

    484. Florida, Texas, Louisiana, they meant it when they said “The South gonna rise again!”

    This is what you get when the ridiculous right rules.

  493. RAIDER Says:

    Well said, Nnamdi. You’re a pretty smart guy when you’re not defending Al. :)

  494. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders!

  495. Nnamdi21 Says:

    493. lol! Thnx man. Enjoy the day Raider brutha!

  496. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, what a shock to see Brien taking up for right wing whites, again. He’s something else, isn’t he? You’d think after his slip this morning, he’d do everything he can do separate himself from associations that would only further expose him. Nope. He’s still in full tilt, protect the white man mode. Just undaunted. I love it. He’s persistent. I give him that.

  497. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol Kell is that all u got? Back in my day yadda yadda lol….pitiful….why not checkother teams boards and see what else others say? Called being informed

  498. Twocents Says:

    Nnamdi21, I don’t think you are counting the unfunded liabilities on your balance sheet.

    I am not a Bush fan, Dems and Reps are all criminals to me.

  499. KoolKell Says:

    That Fed Reserve comment was a dead givaway.

    Bree the Possum eater.

  500. Bauce Rules Says:

    Lol Kell sl@bama doesnt support Fed Reserve?

  501. Bauce Rules Says:

    How is stating the truth aabout sl@bama a dead giveaway?

  502. KoolKell Says:

    Really, only the Aryan Nation, Sovereign People trade in that Fed Reserve conspiracy nonsense.

  503. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce

    What’s wrong with the Fed Reserve?

  504. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, I am sure you made lots of money during the real estate bubble, of course you support the Fed.

  505. Bauce Rules Says:

    Kell im about to jet….u wanna talk face to face like a man…..hit me bauce_2010@yahoo or catch me by 45th and San Leandro

  506. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents, I know who you are, ok?

    I’m trying to see if Bauce Fool knows the 1st thing about the Fed Reserve

  507. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, What’s wrong with the Fed is that they print counterfeit money and give it to their friends. Their friends get the benefit of the money before the the rest of realize that it has been devalued.

  508. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Kell im about to jet…
    ————————–
    See waht I’m saying, lmao. He has no clue about the Fed Reserve, and I dout you do either Twocents.

  509. RAIDER Says:

    Stating you’re not a Democrat or Republican is just so original…

  510. RAIDER Says:

    Why does every person who presents themselves as politically independent from the two major parties always do so as if they’ve just come up with some new, original idea? They’re just omniscient about it. lol. “Actually, I’m not a Democrat or Republican”. As if they’re saying, “I have 3 arms, and 5 legs. I can also fly!”

  511. KoolKell Says:

    Usually after a Republican administration messes up, people who voted for them say Dems & Repubs are all the same.

    But, If you listen to them, you can hear that they’re Trickle Down Republicans, basically.

  512. RAIDER Says:

    Oh, Kell, trust me, I’m on to that. Twocents was a flag saluting Bush Republican in 2004.

  513. RAIDER Says:

    I don’t believe anyone is independent, anyway. It’s a delusional mindset.

    Yeah, sure. You drive an SUV. You have either a blackberry or iPhone. You tivo American idol and sportscenter. You wake up every day and watch the 3 cable news networks. Oh, but you’re independent! ok.

  514. Twocents Says:

    My point is that the only thing that props up the ruling elite is public opinion. This is why the Federal Government controls education. This is why every politician must spend millions of dollars to get elected. Our country is awash in propaganda and myth making. It is working. No one wants to examine the myths. They just repeat the slogans.

  515. RAIDER Says:

    when did the right get so deep? I actually miss the Karl Rove era, back when you guys used to b.s. us about how great America was, how we’re spreading democracy, etc.

  516. Twocents Says:

    Raider, I was a flag saluting patriot, raised on John Wayne movies when I was 18. Experience has taught me to open my eyes and look for what is true, not what is popular.

  517. Twocents Says:

    What is with you two guys? All you do is paint me with the brush of your choosing.

  518. KoolKell Says:

    Believe it or not, I’ll put my John Wayne movie collection up with anybody’s, certainly on this blog.

  519. Twocents Says:

    True Grit and Rooster Cogburn are the only two that are worth spit.

  520. KoolKell Says:

    Two of my least favorites.

  521. Twocents Says:

    What are your favorites?

  522. RaidingTexas Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    I don’t believe anyone is independent, anyway. It’s a delusional mindset.

    ******************

    Suggested reading: Days of War, Nights of Love.

    Bottom line is, you’re not going to be able to take yourself completely off the grid. But you can take on a different mindset and choose certain battles.

  523. JB Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Believe it or not, I’ll put my John Wayne movie collection up with anybody’s, certainly on this blog.
    *******************

    My all time favorite: IN HARM’S WAY

  524. KoolKell Says:

    The Searchers, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Stagecoach, Red River, In Harms Way…………

  525. Twocents Says:

    I liked the one with Maureen O’Hara set in Ireland. I think it was The Quiet Man.

  526. Twocents Says:

    Yes, I was remiss. My memory is coming back. Liberty Valance and Stagecoach are good too.

  527. JB Says:

    The Sea Chase wasn’t bad either.

  528. KoolKell Says:

    Yep, the Quiet Man. Rio Grande

  529. Twocents Says:

    Don’t think I know The Sea Chase. I’ll put it on Netflix.

  530. Twocents Says:

    I must admit that I will watch Rio Bravo and El Dorado, but they are the same movie.

  531. KoolKell Says:

    This “sovereign citizen” concept originated in the Posse Comitatus movement as a teaching of Christian Identity minister William P. Gale. The concept has influenced the tax protester movement, the Christian Patriot movement, and the redemption movement[2]—the last of which includes claims that the U.S. government has enslaved its citizens by using them as collateral against foreign debt. Supporters sell instructions explaining how to “free” oneself by filing particular government forms in a particular order using particular wording.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

  532. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, WTF?

  533. KoolKell Says:

    Twocents

    The redemption movement consists of supporters of a American conspiracy theory.[1] Redemption theory involves claims that when the U.S. government abandoned the gold standard in 1933, it pledged its citizens as collateral so it could borrow money. The movement also asserts that common citizens can gain access to funds in secret accounts using obscure procedures and regulations.

  534. RAIDER Says:

    Two cents, we’re painting you with a brush because your points are nothing original. This blog is full of Republican turned tea partiers. You’re just one of many sheep.

  535. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, I don’t know anything about that.
    But the part about the American citizens being responsible for the debt that the government runs up in its name makes some sense.

  536. RAIDER Says:

    RaidingTexas, my point is, it’s become a new trend in America for people to say they’re “independent”, just because they’re not a party line Democrat or Republican. No book you recommend to me is going to convince me that they’re not anything short of delusional fools.

  537. Twocents Says:

    Raider, What are my points?

  538. KoolKell Says:

    Filibuster To Protect Big Oil Welfare Fueled By Oil Money

    Tonight, Republicans filibustered the majority’s attempt to repeal $21 billion in subsidies for the big five oil companies — the same companies that made over $30 billion in profits in just the first three months of 2011. While three out of four Americans believe Exxon Mobil and the other oil majors should pay their fair share, instead of receiving taxpayer welfare, the oil-friendly Senate split 52 to 48 to end the subsidies. Though the majority of the Senate voted to repeal these oil tax breaks, the procedural motion required a 60 vote threshold. An analysis of campaign contribution records shows the gusher of dirty cash that fueled the filibuster:

    http://thinkprogress.org/

  539. Twocents Says:

    KoolKell, Are you paid to post this crp? thinkprogress.org, really?

  540. RaiderSam Says:

    alex7 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    good point RAIDER. And sadly some fans think that we’re going to improve simply because we promoted our O-coordinator to coach.

    QB talent – subpar
    OL talent – subpar and possibly terrible.
    WR talent – terrible (honestly, compare it)
    LB talent – subpar
    DB talent – subpar to terrible without Aso and Huff.

    2011 opponents – Packers, Jets, Bears, Pats, Vikings, Dolphins, Texans.

    Count on at LEAST 5 losses just right there.

    QB – managed to beat San Diego and Denver twice (Gruden didnt even do that)
    OL – terrible yet managed to manhandle S.D.’s top ranked defense
    WR – agree, somehow they catch and score TDs no worse than Jacksonville and a number of other 8-8, 7-9 teams
    LB – best in years to be honest
    DB – agree, yet they picked and forced turnovers off Rivers (one of the best QB), etc.

    compounding this is every team is handicapped due to the longer offseason and having to develop rookies, new FAs, etc. – will there even be a season?

    lets wait for the pre-season to get a feel for how the team develops. Im not myopic, but the key is CAN THE WIN IN NOVEMBER and stay near .500

  541. RaiderSam Says:

    Twocents Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    KoolKell, Are you paid to post this crp? thinkprogress.org, really?
    ========================================
    why anyone would defend an empire determined to continue enslaving us and making record wealth is beyond me. Its beyond partisan or false left-right wing nonsense. Were talking a new ruling class of corporate dictators, a fake Congress, President and insane Foreign Policy that is exhausting the military and the future of American influence around the world.

    I mean, its like people want no freedom or control over their Government.

  542. Violent Hands Says:

    When Amy Trask, chief executive of the Oakland Raiders, gathered the entire staff for a meeting at team headquarters on the night the NFL lockout began on March 11 to outline plans for dealing with the work stoppage, apprehension loomed.

    Last week, the Miami Dolphins had a similar meeting and announced that effective immediately, salaries for all employees would be cut from 10% to 20%.
    The Raiders, though, unveiled details of an incentive plan requiring that team employees sell new season tickets that totaled at least 10% of their salaries during the length of a lockout. This, in lieu of salary cutbacks or furloughs.
    “It was like Christmas,” Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan recalled this week of the reaction at the meeting. “And with a big sigh of relief.”
    Bresnahan returned for a second stint with the Raiders this year, having spent the past seven years with other teams — including the last two seasons with the United Football League’s Florida Tuskers.
    Although he hasn’t closed a sale, he doesn’t sound worried about reaching his quota.
    “I’ve got to sell millionaires in a room every day to run and crash heads,” he says, referring to the players he coaches during normal times. “So this is easy.”
    Still, the added task of mining community events and knocking on the doors of corporations is quite a departure. All team staffers, from secretaries to equipment managers to executives, must effectively join the team’s sales staff.
    “I understand that some clubs are taking different approaches,” says Trask, mindful that about one-third of the NFL’s teams have cutbacks for team staffers, including furloughs and salary reductions. “(But) a very strong argument can be made that this is something that staff members of every team should be doing all the time.”
    Not every team has the tickets to sell like the Raiders, who averaged an NFL-low attendance of 46,431 for home games last season. They’ve had just two home sellouts the last two years, and since the franchise moved from back from Los Angeles in 1995 have had 83 of 129 home games blacked out.
    And it’s a tougher sell with a harsh economy converging with the uncertainty of the NFL’s labor dispute. Furthermore, the Raiders, who snapped a string of seven consecutive losing seasons with an 8-8 finish in 2010, play at one of the NFL’s most antiquated venues, Oakland Coliseum.
    “Most of the people I’ve encountered have been understanding,” Bresnahan says. “I think the public looks at us as caught in the middle. The hardest thing is looking someone in the eye during this economy. But on the other hand, people really want football.”
    Trask acknowledges that some employees might not be thrilled about “The 2011 Plan,” as it is called, but she suspects the percentage of “intimidated” staffers is low. She says one assistant coach closed a sale on 10 club seats on the first day and that camaraderie between different departments within the organization has improved.
    The target amount for each employee will depend on the length of the lockout. Through two months, an employee paid, for instance, $10,000, would have to sell $1,000 in new season tickets — payable one week before the regular-season opener.
    Refunds will be issued if payments are made for games lost to the work stoppage.
    “Everybody’s trying to get creative in their own way,” says Bresnahan, who was defensive coordinator when the Raiders won three consecutive AFC West titles from 2000 to 2002 and advanced to Super Bowl XXXVII. “I know I’ve got something to talk about at every establishment I set foot in — every restaurant, every store, every winery.”
    But he can’t wait until the labor issue is resolved, and the return to his full-time job — football. Says Bresnahan: “We’re drooling for that.”

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