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Yes, it’s unlikely, but with Bucs having passed, Raiders should pursue `Hard Knocks’

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 16th, 2011 at 10:26 am in Oakland Raiders.

Chance of this happening? Zero, or something in the ball park.

But with the news of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers declining an invitation to be featured on the acclaimed HBO series “Hard Knocks” the Raiders should make it known they’re willing to have their training camp turned into a weekly series.

They were reportedly a candidate in March before the Bucs received the offer.

The road blocks are painfully obvious.

The first is the NFL lockout which could stop the show in its tracks for a year.

The next problem is Oakland pretty much operates as a closed shop. A couple of years back, they even took to pinning the media into 20-yard “penalty box” areas after years of allowing reporters to walk freely along the sidelines (staying away from the middle of the two fields where the players congregated).

The Raiders’ love for secrecy is legend.

Add into it the fact that owner Al Davis doesn’t like to be photographed. Media photographers are told not to be zeroing in on Davis, as are rolling cameras, not to mention invited guests. That doesn’t stop an intrepid photographer from firing off a few shots from a long-range lens, of course, but given that constraint, it would make it difficult to chronicle Davis’ visits to Napa. And those visits would be a huge part of the story, given quarterback Jason Campbell’s comments last week about how the intensity increases with the owner on hand in his golf cart.

A lot of those issues can be negotiated, however and the Raiders can have some input into how it would be produced. You never know when Davis will decide to speak, and any time he does, it’s great theater _ some of the best in sports.

The Raiders are struggling with a season ticket base in the 23,000 range last year and the lockout can’t be helping things. I know a guy who threatens to give up his tickets every year. Then every year he tells me, “They got me again.”

This time, it was because of repeated e-mails and phone calls _ the most contact this ticket holder can remember in terms of salesmanship.

This is an organization in need of some national exposure as it promises to get back in the championship chase.

What the Raiders really have going for them is coach Hue Jackson. He dominates training camp unlike any coach since Jon Gruden in terms of being vocal, enthusiastic and energetic. He’ll get on players who fall short, talk trash to the defense. This year he’ll be entrusted with the entire team, which ought to make the performance even better. The camera loves him, and Jackson seems to like to have it pointed toward him.

When Gruden was head coach, he was a favorite of NFL Films, who were often in Alameda and allowed access very unusual to the organization. How did it happen?

Davis left it up to Gruden, and Gruden was secure enough to say yes _ even after a pair of 8-8 seasons.

Jackson has yet to do anything wrong, and he doesn’t seem to be lacking in confidence.

As for the “penalty box,” that was mostly put in place because of a perception that Bay Area media _ or as Warren Sapp termed “the local yokels” _ has been too critical. Some bigger national outlets get to move more freely if they’re considered more friendly or have a relationship with whoever the coach happens to be in a particular year.

If there is an end in sight to the lockout, and the Raiders can sell it, they ought to consider allowing an up close look at Jackson’s “Build a Bully” process.

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  • Silverandblack666

    Ocho’s next non-football project is to play the donkey in Shrek 5

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER
  • Bauce Rules

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Ocho’s next non-football project is to play a homosexual nymphomaniac in a porno movie.
    ****************************

    You will warm up to him this season when he is moving the chains for Oakland lol

  • Dakota

    97.Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    “You have to have some kind of skill other than abusing an animal to be a good basketball player.”

    LOL that was good.

    Did you know that a 50 year old man made over 5,200 free throws in a row. Why can’t guys shoot more than 60% from the line is beyond me?
    __________________

    zzzzzzzzzzzz

    Of the 71 players who have taken freethrows thus far in the NBA playoffs 69 of them are shooting better than 60%….only two guys were under 60% Nene and Josh Smith.

    59 of the 71 players are shooting better than 70%

  • Silverandblack666

    Bauce Rules

    if Chad Johnson plays for the raiders next year I will personally pay for your season tickets.

    Write it down!

    Ocho’s next non-football project is to play spin the bottle with Justin Beiber.

  • Raider E

    Anyone can shoot freethrows in an empty gym.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Al doesn’t believe in “moving chains”, Brien. He believes in the quick strike. Moving chains is 49er stuff.

  • Dakota

    Generally, those who don’t like B-ball were either not athletic enough to play or were bag-biting wrestlers.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Al Davis doesn’t even recognize the first down marker. Simply doesn’t believe in it. He tries to score on every play. Basically, Al Davis approaches the game like a 5 year old girl.

  • Raider E

    The Raiders WRs for next season are already on the roster with the exception of a draft pick or two.

  • Raider E

    Dakota, stereotype much?

  • Silverandblack666

    “not athletic enough to play”

    I can live with that.

    So your an athlete because you watch basketball?

    I wonder how good your 12 ounce slam dunk is or your quick slant to the bag of chips or your fast break to the bathroom to rub one out.

    great athletic moves from the couch there stud!

  • Raider E

    Sounds like the triangle offense 666.

  • Dakota

    113.Raider E Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Dakota, stereotype much?

    +++++++++++++

    All wrestlers bite bags….

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Raider E, if I’m jealous of Al Davis, I must really be jealous of the Rooney Family, Robert Kraft, and the Green Bay Packers collective. These owners are far more successful than Al Davis.

  • Silverandblack666

    “All wrestlers bite bags….”

    Only 12 year old kids and trailer park residents watch wrestling.

    Not sure how that equates to basketball?

  • Dakota

    115.Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    “not athletic enough to play”

    I can live with that.

    So your an athlete because you watch basketball?

    I wonder how good your 12 ounce slam dunk is or your quick slant to the bag of chips or your fast break to the bathroom to rub one out.

    great athletic moves from the couch there stud!
    +++++++++++

    Yeah at 35 I am more of a softball player than a b-ball player these days lol.

  • Raider E

    Dakota Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    113.Raider E Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Dakota, stereotype much?

    +++++++++++++

    All wrestlers bite bags….

    ———-

    I think they choke fools out too….

  • Silverandblack666

    I don’t like baseball or basketball or anything other than football. I wish I did, it sure does get boring during the of season.

  • Silverandblack666

    I do like watching womens volleyball and cheer-leading but that is for sexual gratification not for competition.

  • raiderinpa

    666, I’ll take REAL wrestling (not WWF acting) over Fairy-Hoops ANYDAY!!

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Al doesn’t believe in “moving chains”, Brien. He believes in the quick strike. Moving chains is 49er stuff.
    ******************************************

    Raiders needs a possession wide receiver who knows how to get open against different types of coverages. Chad would surely be better than what we have here now. Agree?

    And how is moving the chains a 49er thing? You an move the chains without dinking and dunking

  • noteasilyimpressed

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:07 am
    Al Davis doesn’t allow cameras at training camps because he’s just barely lucid enough to know that his way of running his team is bizarre and embarrassing, and viewers will laugh at not only that, but also how chaotic the environment is.
    =======================================================

    Frankly, Mr. Davis could care less about what anyone thinks.

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Al Davis doesn’t even recognize the first down marker. Simply doesn’t believe in it. He tries to score on every play. Basically, Al Davis approaches the game like a 5 year old girl.
    *****************************

    Ridiculous

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
    I don’t care how much enthusiasm he has if he doesn’t win more than 8 games next year we will eventually see the overhead projector wheeled out again.
    ————–//-/
    8-8 or 9-7 will keep his job.
    But that’s funny an can also be true

  • Bauce Rules

    R8dercain Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 11:39 am
    I don’t care how much enthusiasm he has if he doesn’t win more than 8 games next year we will eventually see the overhead projector wheeled out again.
    ————–//-/
    8-8 or 9-7 will keep his job.
    But that’s funny an can also be true
    ************************************

    Yeah, expectations shall be high for 2011

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Raider E, if I’m jealous of Al Davis, I must really be jealous of the Rooney Family, Robert Kraft, and the Green Bay Packers collective. These owners are far more successful than Al Davis.
    —————-
    the Rooney family maybe but the pack hadn’t won a SB since the 90′s

  • Raider E

    I assume you are saying your jealousy hase no limits Gusto.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    The raiders have gone to the SB in evry decade but the 90′s
    can’t say that for the pack can u MR?

  • Silverandblack666

    “666, I’ll take REAL wrestling (not WWF acting) over Fairy-Hoops ANYDAY!!”

    have you seen the South Park episode about “real wrestling?”

    Funny as hell

  • inonewordraider

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    They’re showing pictures of the Giants fan who got knocked out at Dodger stadium. In the pictures they’re showing now, he looks like some kind of steroid freak! The ones they showed beforehand, he looked like this innocent, meek guy. I never saw these pictures they’re showing today. He looks like the kind of guy who could have brought this on himself.

    There have been countless beatdowns at Angels stadium. Here’s one account in particular

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703138/posts

    Yet it seems the one in which hispanic “thugs” left a caucasion paramedic in a coma got all the press

  • inonewordraider

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/Man-Involved-in-Angel-Stadium-Fight-Dies-at-Hospital.html

    This guy died from a beatdown angels vs oakland a’s and it didn’t make national headlines either

  • Dakota
  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Dakota is actually more of a FAT INBRED FUK than a basketball player these days.

  • Dakota

    Afternoon Dr.!

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Campbell and Seymour assembling teammates in the Atlanta area beginning next Monday!!

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Raider E, my point is that according your logic, that I must be jealous of Al Davis, wouldn’t I have to be much more jealous of the Rooneys, Robert Kraft, or Green Bay’s fan collective? They’re far more successful than Al Davis.

    Let’s put it this way, Raider E. If jealousy is what motivates me to come here and bash Al, as you would put it, why aren’t I at Steeler, Packer, or Patriot blogs bashing their respective ownerships? I have a lot more reason to be jealous of those owners.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    R8rcain, going to a Super Bowl in every decade but one is not significant to me. I’m more concerned with how many trophies have been won, overall, and how recent they’ve been won.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    InonewordRaider, I just saw pictures of what the Giants fan really looks like today. The only pictures I’d seen beforehand were from angles where he just looked like an average guy who wasn’t much of a fighter. The pictures I saw of him today, he looks like a ‘roid freak who lives for brawling. I wonder why I hadn’t seen those photos beforehand. No doubt. To paraphrase Randy Moss, something is “fishy” about the way the media has approached this incident.

    Then, in Los Angeles, they have billboards offering rewards for information leading to the suspects. With all of the victims of violent crime in LA, many of them children, they expect the whole city to rally around some out of town meat head who was probably starting funk and asking for a fight? It’s ridiculous

  • alex7

    I like how we have to say JC does well when NOT on the hot seat, and a good backup QB would mess his mind up.

    So he’ll do just fine vs the Bears, Packers, Jets, Patriots and Vikings D, right? Umm, right??

  • inonewordraider

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    InonewordRaider, I just saw pictures of what the Giants fan really looks like today. The only pictures I’d seen beforehand were from angles where he just looked like an average guy who wasn’t much of a fighter. The pictures I saw of him today, he looks like a ‘roid freak who lives for brawling. I wonder why I hadn’t seen those photos beforehand. No doubt. To paraphrase Randy Moss, something is “fishy” about the way the media has approached this incident.

    Then, in Los Angeles, they have billboards offering rewards for information leading to the suspects. With all of the victims of violent crime in LA, many of them children, they expect the whole city to rally around some out of town meat head who was probably starting funk and asking for a fight? It’s ridiculous

    same time tho, there’s an element of LA fans that take it too far and if this incident highlights that and things are done to curb it, it may have a good result. It is definitely fishy tho

  • priesttj

    The NFL was granted their stay,, it;s agoing to be a while folks!!

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    RAIDER Says:
    May 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    R8rcain, going to a Super Bowl in every decade but one is not significant to me. I’m more concerned with how many trophies have been won, overall, and how recent they’ve been won.
    ————–
    was recent more important than it was done an not many teams can say that
    in fact pitts didn’t win a SB in the 80′s.
    Not steelers fan but just saying the top tier teams go to the dance be once a decade or whatever. The raiders were just there not ten yrs ago. Green bay Chicago kc an other ’10 playoff teams have that privelige. Go Raiders

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Meant to say when referring to GB,chicago,KC they were playoff teams an none have won SB in every decade but the 90′s

  • DKnight007

    I wish the Raiders would do Hard Knocks…but they won’t.

    The team that should do it is the Green Bay Packers pr Philly Eagles quite honestly.

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