An all-hands-on-deck ticket plan
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Leave it to Amy Trask to figure out a way for Raiders employees to spend their down time.
The Raiders CEO announced to club employees March 11 they would all become part of the ticket-selling department.
Sounds crazy on its face, but it beats being out of a job, furloughed or taking a pay cut.
It goes like this _ sell either season tickets or suite tickets (single game or annual) to reach or exceed 10 percent of your monthly salary and it’s all good. A person making $60,000 per year would need to sell $500 worth of season tickets per month. Trask points out that’s about two season tickets. The lockout has gone on for 10 weeks, but employees have until the first preseason game to meet their goals.
When I spoke to her today, Trask wouldn’t say what happens if someone doesn’t meet the quota, choosing instead to focus on the positive and believing that it was a “can do” plan.
Here’s a link to a Sports Digest lead I filed for Thursday’s Bay Area Newsgroup papers.
“To my knowledge, no one else is doing this,” Trask said. “that’s not to say it’s not happening somewhere in the world. I’m just not aware of it.”
On the first day of the plan Trask said an assistant coach sold five club seats. She declined to name the coach, and also declined to say whose idea it was to have everyone in the building _ including Trask and coach Hue Jackson _ become a seller for “new buyers.”
If it all seems to be a bit of a cluster-you-know-what, with no specific selling territories and sellers potentially working the same clients, the organizational philosophy, Trask said, is one of cooperation.
“There are a handful of people that may be intimidated by this, but what we’re trying to do is work with them and say, `Let’s help you accomplish your goals,’ ” Trask said. “How do we give you the tools and resources you need? Maybe someone has a great lead from their church or gym. We say, IL< give the lead to the ticket sales department, they’ll help you close that.”
The Raiders declined to make any assistant coaches available, but that didn’t stop defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan from talking to USA Today. Bresnahan apparently wasn’t the guy who sold the club seats, but wasn’t worried about meeting his quota.
“I’ve got to sell millionaires in a room every day to run and crash heads,” Bresnahan said. “So this is easy.”
The Raiders averaged just 46,431 in eight regular season home games last year with a season-ticket base of approximately 23,000, so there are plenty of seats available.
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May 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
1st!
May 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Jerry…
May 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
All Hail Coach Davis!
May 18th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Leave it to Amy Trask to figure out a way for Raiders employees to spend their down time.
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That is just flat out good business. Leave it to Coach Davis and his right hand man, er, uh, woman to stay ahead of the curve.
May 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
The good news is you’re fired. The bad news is you got all you got, just one week to regain your job, starting with tonight, starting with tonight’s sits. Oh, have I got your attention now? Good. ‘Cause we’re adding a little something to this month’s sale contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is your fired. You get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Al Davis paid good money. Get their names to sell them. You can’t close the leads you’re given, you can’t close $hit, you are $hit, hit the bricks pal and beat it ’cause you are going out.
Go Raiders!
Lemmon: The leads are weak.
May 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
You mean if we don’t buy tickets, people in the Raiders’ front office will lose their jobs? They call that a plan? They’re not going to sell one ticket, now. Most fans want to blow that building up and start over.
May 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
With his HOF credentials and stellar rep I’m guessing Rod Woodson is the rainmaker.
May 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Congrats to Al and the Raiders Exec Team for coming up with this move.
BTW, I ran into Tommy Kelly at the gym in Memphis again today. Dude was drenched in sweat on his way out. Said he would be in Georgia next week as well. So happy to have Seymour leading our team.
May 18th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
I’m watching the top 100 and listening to Gruden talk about Dallas Clark was cracking me up. Man that guy is awesome talent though. Watching his highlight was like watching a WR in a TE’s body tremendous hands fluid as hell.
As I watched it I undeerstood why Hue Jackson wnts to put Ausberry at TE add 10-5 lbs and line him up on a LB or SS and it just might work.
May 18th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Sure do like the things I’m hearing from the team these days. There will obviously be some holes to fill this year, and the schedule is quite a lot harder than last year’s, but there seems to be a whole lot more enthusiasm and cohesiveness than in years past.
We’re not winning the Super Bowl next year and may not even make the playoffs, but there’s something positive going on in Oakland and a good many people (fans or not) have to see there’s a different vibe between this year and the recent past.
May 18th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Reeks of desperation, and despair, having front office personnel, and coaching staff, out pushing ticket sales.
The Bargain Basement level of sales.
Most org advertise, on TV, mags, newrags, and radio.
Amy coming up with this is seriously embarrassing.
Butt of jokes to come.
May 18th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
I see this new ticket plan as an opportunity to purge the front office of its current personnel. I say boycott.
May 18th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Well at least their not laying people off or firing them like other teams. This kind of stuff is going on all over the league. No revenue and meeting payroll every week comes directlyout of Mr Davis’ pocket. To have to sell a couple of tickets a month to get your $6,000.00 is a small price to pay. At least your Benefits and salary are in tact.
The jets layed off their entire front office….
May 18th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Dave Ball they’re doing all those things and more they call season ticket holders personally. Hue Jackson could come calling……LOL
Everything is at a standstill there’s no work to be done so they may as well help their own cause.
May 18th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Was MR riding his bike in Oak Park today? SMH… Flap flap flap … Then hide hide hide
May 19th, 2011 at 1:05 am
Sound business management. If the workers can’t dig make em carry. If they can’t carry don’t worry cuz they’re fired.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:09 am
RAIDER Says:
May 18th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
I see this new ticket plan as an opportunity to purge the front office of its current personnel. I say boycott.
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Raider, you’re a schmuck. The people you want to get rid of (Trask, Herrera etc.) I’m sure are not going to be effected by your pushing fans now to buy or show up.
I think it’s a great way to keep them producing something and to help fill the seats which makes the games even more intense and exciting.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:12 am
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May 19th, 2011 at 4:45 am
Mosebar said, “I remember one time Marc Wilson had a horrible game. He threw three interceptions in the first half and then we went to the lockerroom. Marc was really upset, so he threw his helmet. Rod Martin said, ‘I’m surprised that didn’t get intercepted.’”
jajajaja
May 19th, 2011 at 5:22 am
Taiwan Jones should be tried at CB, Al loves those fast CB, so why not =) LOL
May 19th, 2011 at 5:23 am
This a great idea. As Jerry said, sure beats losing your job or having to settle for half pay as some teams are doing.
It also promotes Raider loyalty among the staff who have to adjust to a new coach every fifteen minutes.
Good thinking Amy.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Amy Trask is GREAT… BUT…
why not use half the people on renovating, doing paint jobs etc at the stadium?
May 19th, 2011 at 6:13 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.LMN,ENGLANDRAIDER.WONDER HOW MANY TIX TRASK HAS SOLD..
May 19th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Another day in Paradise today…getting ready to punch our IT guys in the face…lol
May 19th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Just a quickie……
Morning all!
“The Premier League’s 20 clubs made losses of nearly £500m in 2009/2010, while an average of 68% was spent on wages”.
……..And you lot thought the NFL was crazy!Look at the state of football over here!
May 19th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Kudos to Richard Seymour for organizing and picking up the bill for the players workouts.
Gotta love the message sent out to the players as well:
“Men, I hope everyone is well and is staying in shape because we are going to out-work everyone we face this season, and it starts right now in the offseason.”
- If there were any doubts about the trade that brought Seymour to the Raiders, his latest actions should discard them.
The Raiders have a real shot at the playoffs in 2011 and one of the main reasons is Richard Seymour.
Not a single player available with the 17th overall pick would have have been able to come in and provide this very young Raiders team with the kind of leadership and play Seymour brought (Pro Bowl player in 2010).
This team needed Seymour for the next 2 or 3 seasons more than they needed another young kid with upside.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:48 am
I agree Bob! His leadership showed last season when he jumped on the bus with the rookies!
May 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Bob I don’t even think Mr Davis had any idea the return he would get when he made this trade if he did no wonder he was scared they would change their mind. The 1st rnd pick was originally a 2nd Big Al upped the anti to get Seymour. In hindsight what a coup, it’s one of the biggest blunders Belichik has made. They’ve been trying fill that void since the day King Richard left.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Now Al Davis, you have said before “I’d rather be right than be consistent”.
So turn around and bring Nnamdi back, it would be money well spent, we paid Javon Walker and DeAngelo Hall for nothing and surived, investing that kind of money in Nnamdi would be wise and it would help make up for those mistakes.
Work it out Al, the big money teams will try to lure 21 away with a huge signing bonus and 3 maybe 4 guaranteed years, we can counter with a smaller bonus, but more guaranteed years at a higher salary.
Nnamdi’s game is tailored for the “Rod Woodson transition” in the latter part of a long-term deal, so even if he loses a step as a CB, he can finish his career at Safety and remain a productive player well into his 30’s.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Amy Trask should be the Raiders GM. She would kick a…
May 19th, 2011 at 7:31 am
I’m going to give my asessment of two great corners in this game. Nnamdi and Revis; When I study Revis I do see a guy with out a weakness he reminds me of Charles Woodson and Rod Woodson (when Rod was with the Steelers). He is so technigue sound that it’s hard to get him to make a false step, His back pedal is very smooth with a great transition and break. His strength is his “strength” in his upperbody he punch’s the rec at their should level to redirect them(if their is snything a WR hates it’s getting Redirected) that forces the WR to adjust his pattern throwing the timing off between QB and WR. He gets his hands on you so forcefully most WR quit. Also his footwork and hips are second to none and he can transition his body weight without thinking and regain leverage. On top of that he is ultra competitive and has elite ball skills not to mention he plays the run like a safety. If you go back and watch Rod Woodson at the Steelers you’ll almost see the same player. Charles was a better tackler than Revis but he wasn’t as technicallly sound as either Revis or Rod. Charles was just so damn gifted even if he got sloppy he could instant recover.
Now Nnamdi; is very different from Revis in that he is very long arms , legs has sweet backpedal and transition anticipates extremely well his game is to mirror the rec (mimic the rec or run the route) he doesn’t bump and run as physically as Revis does (because of yellow flags) his punch is not as physical he basically steers the rec’r and mimic’s him and he’s as quick as a cobra when the ball is in the air with those long arms and makes contact his arm bar is sneaky good. He plays the game more with his mind than his body. He’s like a ballerina dancing with the QB and WR and then turns to a cobra.
There is one peripheral issue afoot though which Rod with the Steelers and Revis with the Jets have never had to deal with. “The refs” if Nnamdi were nearly as physical as either Revis or Rod he would see so many flags he’d think there was a celebration. That’s what many observers just don’t understand when you put that silver and black on you play by different rules………….period
It’s a matter of preference to me as to who is better between Revis and Nnamdi. The best way to put it is when I use dto study Lester Hayes and Mike Haynes it’s very similar to Nnamdi and Revis. Lester was extremely physical Mike just ran the pattern for the WR.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Amy Trask: What’s your name?
Herrera: Eff you, that’s my name.
Amy Trask: Your name is “your wanting,” and you can’t play the man’s game, you can’t close them, and then tell your wife your troubles. ‘Cause only one thing counts in this world: get them to sign on the line which is dotted. Got that, you effin’ maggots?
May 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I like the idea of this tix thing at the beginning stages of it, where we are now in the season. Build a little comradrie amongst employees, maybe a little friendly competition, and of course the potential to build morale and team-building.
Just as long as the Raiders aren’t 4-3, heading into a big home game, and Trask is busting the brows of our coaching staff to bring up their production.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:38 am
I would love to watch John Herrera try and sell season tickets:
Fan: Hello?
JH: Yeah this is John Herrera. (silence)
Fan: Okay, I don’t know you….
JH: Oh, er I work for Mr. Davis, do you want tickets?
Fan: Man what the f@#$ are you talking about? Who is Mr. Davis?
JH: You know, coach Davis!
Fan: Coach of what?!?!
JH: Officially he isn’t a coach, but he has a lot of say on defense…..but don’t tell the smoke potters!
Fan: Smoke potters? Are you high or are you calling from an institution?
JH: No I am not high! And yes, this is the greatest institution in all of sports!
Fan: You are calling from the Lakers?
JH: No not the Lakers, the Raiders man, what is wrong with you!
Fan: Let me get this straight, you are calling me about buying season tickets for the Oakland Raiders?
JH: Yep!
Fan: Do you normally sell tickets for the Raiders?
JH: No, normally I change diapers, switch out drool towels and make KFC and McDonald’s runs for Mr. Davis.
Fan: Well that explains it!
JH: Explains what?
Fan: Why you are dumb enough to call someone who lives in Toronto, Canada about buying season tickets for the OAKLAND RAIDERS! (click)
JH: Hello? Hello?
Trask: Hey John, how is the ticket selling going?
JH: Its great, that last one was real close to buying!
Trask: Well, keep up the good work.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:44 am
There is one peripheral issue afoot though which Rod with the Steelers and Revis with the Jets have never had to deal with. “The refs” if Nnamdi were nearly as physical as either Revis or Rod he would see so many flags he’d think there was a celebration. That’s what many observers just don’t understand when you put that silver and black on you play by different rules………….period
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I’ve never bought into this type of thinking.
I think Revis had a lot more flags than Nnamdi this season.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:45 am
You guys make so much fun of Herrera when the truth is 99% would quit your job down at the local supermarket and take his in a heartbeat.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:46 am
JFB you don’t have to, I doubt you’ve ever been toa Raider game. have you??
May 19th, 2011 at 7:49 am
If you have been to as many games as I have you wouldn’t have a choice but to buy into it. When you see the crap that gets called on a routine basis and then see the other get away with it. You’d have to be a complete MORON not to see it.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I went to every Raider home game from 99-03 with my uncle (Alameda county sheriff) up on Mt. Davis. I’ve been to every home playoff game since they came back to Oakland.
Last Raider home game I went to was in 05 against SD when Moss got hurt.
Went to the AZ game last year, went to a game in San Diego in ‘05 and will be at the Buffalo game this year (hopefully).
May 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I think the Raiders get fooooked all the time….the refs tried to take away the first KC win last year. Horrible calls.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:54 am
6.RAIDER Says:
May 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
You mean if we don’t buy tickets, people in the Raiders’ front office will lose their jobs? They call that a plan? They’re not going to sell one ticket, now. Most fans want to blow that building up and start over.
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It’s true! Most fans do! You, Madden Raider, and Gust123 are all in favor of it!
What prententious BS. Have some self awareness, Raider fans who hate Al and think Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden deserve all credit for Raider success are not the majority or even common. You’re closer to “unique” than you are to “most”.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Then how can you NOT see that??? You partially blind??
May 19th, 2011 at 7:58 am
JFB go back and watch the home game vs SD last year and tell me there wasn’t some horrible PI calls vs Routt and CJ. If you say there weren’t you don’t know football………period
May 19th, 2011 at 8:00 am
It is a fact that more flags are called in Raider games, not only on us but the opposing teams get flagged way more than they normally do when they play us. We play rugged, physical, somewhat undiscplined football, so there will be more flags.
I just feel there is bad calls, every quarter of every game, every weekend. But I feel Raider fans are quick to run to the conspiracy theory, when in fact, it just is a bad call.
For instance the Nick Miller fumble last year at the end of the Chiefs game on the punt. THAT WAS CLEARLY A FUMBLE, called on the field as so, and backed up by video evidence.
Yet the conspiracy theorists were out in full force on that one.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:03 am
There are horrible PI calls all the time.
When do you ever see a DB of any team, NOT COMPLAIN, about a PI call??
I look at it like a pitcher in baseball. Greg Maddux got strikes nobody else got, because he was around the plate, every pitch for a decade.
The Raiders always are near the lead in false starts, and offsides calls, and because of their style of play, refs are just going to call more flags on them.
You reap what you sow. As Jerry always says, good teams overcome it, bad teams complain about it.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Davy Jones don’t waste your time she says stuff like that to get attention……..she can’t help it.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Didn’t we win a Super Bowl, the year of the Sugar Bear Hamilton bogus call??
May 19th, 2011 at 8:10 am
JFB are you crazy?? have you seen the Steelers style of play?? You telling me the Raiders are more physical than any other team???
Look man that is the biggest load of crap I’ve heard in a long time the style of play they do what EVERY team does…………..whatever they can………….period
You much don’t watch much football this is a VERY violent sport players do a lot of tsuff they shouldn’t do on every team.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I think the Raiders get fooooked all the time….the refs tried to take away the first KC win last year. Horrible calls.
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Raiders down 3, with a minute to go, face a 3rd and 3 and throw an incomplete pass.
KC called for defensive holding, automatic first down.
The drive before KC gets called for a drive killing holding call, and they are forced to punt.
Chiefs got called for 12 penalties that game (their season high)!!!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Bogus call, tell me exactly how that call was bogus?? maybe they were playing too close to the rules but he DID hit him in the head, how is that bogus. How many SB have we lost dut to bogus calls.
JFB now I understand why others have these run on conversations with you man. So I’ll just pass I’m not interested in convincing someone to see something they chose not to. Soo lets let it go..
May 19th, 2011 at 8:14 am
You much don’t watch much football this is a VERY violent sport players do a lot of tsuff they shouldn’t do on every team.
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I guarantee you over the last 10 years, I have watched way more football than you.
I have had either lived in Vegas and watched 6 games at once, or had the Sunday Ticket.
No other team plays rugged man to man coverage like us by our corners. They are bordering on illegal contact EVERY PLAY!!
May 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am
I never seen the Sugar Bear hit, I wasnt’ born until 4 years later.
Just always hear it described around the league as an iffy call.
What happened in the 60’s, 70’s and early 80’s, I can’t speak for.
But since I’ve been a fan (call it ‘86 or so), I never thought we were at a disadvantage because of the refs, and I hate the excuse making you hear from people about them.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
You listening to Jerry!!!!! really most good teams don’t have to overcome them because they don’t get them……period
Listen most of the games the Raiders have won they had twice the # of penalties the opponent had. That goes for the past history as well as today. The Raiders have always HAD to deal with penalties the Pat’s don’t the Steelers don’t. And if you give me this crao about they don’t committ them I’ll call you a flat out liar.
ALLL TEAMS CHEAT……..all of them.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Well if you’ve never seen it how in hell can you talk about it???? I saw the game LIVE he hit Snake upside his head. Now he didn’t mena to do it but he did it just the same.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:21 am
If you ain’t cheating, you aren’t trying.
Go Raiders!
May 19th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Those who don’t think this ticket thing is a good idea are seriously bonkers. You do understand that other teams are cutting salaries across the board because of the lockout right? oh probably not because you don’t care about NFL news, you only come to this site to infect others with your stupid opinions, get in stupid arguments and google some facts so other people think you are intelligent.
Go Amy, Chuck Bresnehan said when he heard about this idea it was like christmas to him because cutbacks are everywhere during this lockout and now he has the chance to 1:help out the team to fill the stadium and 2:keep his current rate of pay because during a lockout there is no work to be done. I know this because i visit other news sites and care about the game and the raiders. Some of you people are absolutely clueless and deserve the projector treatment.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:28 am
If your not cheating your not trying I always said.
2009, 8 of the top 10 most penalized teams made the playoffs.
2010, The two most penalized offenses, (Eagles-Raiders), were #3 and #6 in points scored.
Penalties, have very little impact on a game, good or bad.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:30 am
JFB I just read your comments about our corners playing man defense.
Son you don’t know football…………..period
May 19th, 2011 at 8:32 am
That’s not exactly true man penalties do have a affect on games it just determines if the team you’re playing is as good as you are. If you take two evenly matched teams penalties can kill you.
Like I said you don’t know football…
May 19th, 2011 at 8:32 am
You look at some of the least penalized teams last year, Dolphins, Bills, Redskins, and these are the teams that just drifted through half the season.
Sometimes penalties are the result of just a little too much aggression, but I will always take too much over too little.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Like I said you don’t know football…
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One man’s opinion.
My predictions on here turn out a lot better than yours.
Fact. Period. Print that.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:36 am
49.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:51 am
I think the Raiders get fooooked all the time….the refs tried to take away the first KC win last year. Horrible calls.
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Raiders down 3, with a minute to go, face a 3rd and 3 and throw an incomplete pass.
KC called for defensive holding, automatic first down.
The drive before KC gets called for a drive killing holding call, and they are forced to punt.
Chiefs got called for 12 penalties that game (their season high)!!!!!
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I can’t even remember what play it was that I was pissed about….but I remember seeing red and I think it was on a PI call late in the game against the Raiders.
Throwing flags on blatant stuff, sure they have to do that, but the call on the Raider was totally unjustified. It isn’t the number of calls, it is the timing and the fact that the Raider did nothing to merit the flag.
At least that is what I saw through my S&B colored glasses.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
This isn’t so much a forum for football fans as much as it is a forum for people who like to argue.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
This is a much better plan than pres purple lips cash for clunkers & cash for caulkers programs, hands down.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
“If you are not cheating you are not trying”
Really? I would love to go back in the archives to when Belichick was caught in the video tape incident and see what kind of comments you guys were making about cheating back then lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Sure they do JFB sure they do….LOL
May 19th, 2011 at 8:40 am
JFB can’t pick his nose.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:41 am
but the call on the Raider was totally unjustified. It isn’t the number of calls, it is the timing and the fact that the Raider did nothing to merit the flag.
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Happens every week, in every game.
Referring is an inexact science, which is often skewed by home teams/crowds, team trends, and at what point in the game it is.
Even if there is this whole league-wide bias against us, complaining about it does no good. We won Super Bowls with it going on, so if Ted Hendricks wants to complain about it, fine, he has earned that right.
But I don’t want to hear Quinton Groves complain about it. Man up and overcome it.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Doctor truer words were never spoken…..
May 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
The “if you aren’t cheating” mantra is for baseball and its true. For football it ruins the game
May 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
This coming from the ingrate that rode JaMeatballs testes to the bitter end and then inexplicably thinks DHB’s still photos are a indicator of good things to come.
lmao
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Priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Like I said you don’t know football…
May 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
This isn’t so much a forum for football fans as much as it is a forum for people who like to argue.
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I call it competitive conversation, and it is good for the mind and heart.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
I call it a waste of time.
Go outside and play.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
tj, if you know football Id like to submit to you the sky is green and pres purp lips isn’t a flunky marxist and the Raiders will sellout all 8 reg season games in 2012 even if there isn’t a season.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Wow, Al Davis has his coaches selling tickets….
May 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
What else are they doing right now?
They’re drawing huge paychecks sitting around eating lunch all day.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Referrals, KoolKell, referrals.
Amy said you can pass a quality lead upwards to the sales staff and get credit for it without actually closing it, lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:17 am
they need to get a CBA and end this for everyone concerned the NFL is looking awwefully silly right now.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:19 am
22,000 season ticket holders, wow. I would imagine that Billboard took a bite out of them.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Raiders have the lowest attendance in the NFL. I wonder if the Dallas Cowboy coaches are charged with selling tickets right now?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
May 19th, 2011 at 9:25 am
KK, why dont you take your wife to the barbershop and get him a haircut.
If you dont purchase season tickets don’t raise the issue, you are part of the problem not the solution.
Moron.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
tj, let me get this straight.
You are predicting another breakout season for DHB even after he made a fool of you & your still photos last year?
Do I have this 100% correct?
May 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Priest,
Every fan of every team thinks the refs are against them.
Take the Bulls, lol.
The 2nd qtr of last night’s game had all the Bulls conspiracy theorist out. Chicago up 8, Watson rips Chalmers, they dive for the ball, foul on Watson, lol! The same ref called another foul 2 seconds later on Watson. Same ref hits Deng for a foul on LBJ.
Bottom line, Heat shooting FTs with 9 mins left in the qtr becauase of 1 ref. Even Reggie Miller called out the ref for making bad calls. Totally took the MO away from the Bulls who were on their way to running away with it.
Of course the NBA didn’t want that, says Bulls fan, lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Priest,
Every fan of every team thinks the refs are against them.
Take the Bulls, lol.
The 2nd qtr of last night’s game had all the Bulls conspiracy theorist out. Chicago up 8, Watson rips Chalmers, they dive for the ball, foul on Watson, lol! The same ref called another foul 2 seconds later on Watson. Same ref hits Deng for a foul on LBJ.
Bottom line, Heat shooting FTs with 9 mins left in the qtr becauase of 1 ref. Even Reggie Miller called out the ref for making bad calls. Totally took the MO away from the Bulls who were on their way to running away with it.
Of course the NBA didn’t want that, says Bulls fan, lol.
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But most teams have not been screwed out of 2 SB appearances and of course the chance to advance in the playoffs with the snow job game.
Yes, they are out to get us whenever they can.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I can’t even remember what play it was that I was pissed about….but I remember seeing red and I think it was on a PI call late in the game against the Raiders.
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There was a PI call against CJ on a 3rd dn that was just ridiculous. That drive ended up leading to a TD for the Cheifs.
Then again, I recall the entire game being ref’d bad on both sides. A lot of head scratching calls.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Those two calls on Watson in the first 20 seconds of the 2nd was brutal.
But the bigger question is, when did Watson start playing this fierce defense? He was a terrible defender on most nights with the GSW.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Only reason we were not screwed out of the three SB wins by strange late calls by the refs is because those games were blowouts by the end. Nothing they could do about it by then….but you get a close game we are screwed. No doubt about it.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Should we trade our next year’s #1 pick to the Eagles for Kolb?
Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Kolb trade for what?? Why would we do that??
No one knows if this guy is as good as eevryone says he is. Andy Reid swears by him, but why wouldn’t he?
May 19th, 2011 at 10:13 am
….but you get a close game we are screwed. No doubt about it.
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It only seems like we are getting screwed because of our inability to score. If were able to consistantly put points on the board, then the penalties wouldn’t be that big of a deal. Like you say, since the score is always close in games we play, it seems like we get screwed.
Just like a say to Chicago fan, if Boozer doesn’t go Gasoft on you, then those 2nd qtr fould wouldn’t have mattered b/c you would’ve been up 15.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Jhill you guys just haven’t been through what I’ve been through with refs…….i’ll just put it that way.
Every game is not going to demonstrate it, you have to have seen it over time.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Kolb? I was high on him prior to last year, but after watching him play he seems to have trouble getting the ball to the WRs….we already have captain checkdown(….or our WRs can’t get open….still trying to figure that one out.)
May 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I’ll take Kolb over next year’s number 1 pick anytime. It will be a mid teens pick anyway and Al will prob choose some DB with speed.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Priest,
IMO, QB is a HUGE question mark going into the season. And since JC has no contract beyond this year, who’s to say the powers that be want this guy beyond this year? He’s clearly on the on a 1 year try out this year, and the fall back plan is Kyle Boeller?
That’s why.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am
90.J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:13 am
….but you get a close game we are screwed. No doubt about it.
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It only seems like we are getting screwed because of our inability to score. If were able to consistantly put points on the board, then the penalties wouldn’t be that big of a deal. Like you say, since the score is always close in games we play, it seems like we get screwed.
Just like a say to Chicago fan, if Boozer doesn’t go Gasoft on you, then those 2nd qtr fould wouldn’t have mattered b/c you would’ve been up 15.
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Well, I am discounting the past seven years…the refs have not felt the need to hurt us because the NFL’s worst GM Al Davis was doing it for them. The first KC game last year was the first game in a long time that I felt was an important stepping stone game and the refs tried to foooook us. I don’t mean that I think it happens in every game or every close game…..just important close games.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
A #1 is too much for Kolb, IMO.
I worry about his ability to stay healthy.
Wasn’t he supposed to be the starter all last year, and he barely lasted a half of the first game before he got knocked out.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Dakota,
Just looked at Kolb’s stats last year, and the game before the bye week against ATL he hit Maclin for 2 TDs and Jackson for 1.
Lost to Tenn the following week.
But you have to consider that this guy is playing with zero running game in Philly. Plug him into our offense as a game manager feeding off our running game, and you might have something.
If JC was signed for a few years out, then I’d fill more comfortable. We are screwed if he doesn’t pan out.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
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J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Should we trade our next year’s #1 pick to the Eagles for Kolb?
Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
The way we drafted this year…I wouldn’t have a problem with giving the Eagles our 1st RD pick!
Aig couldn’t have said it better…
“It will be a mid teens pick anyway and Al will prob choose some DB with speed.”
May 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You heard it here 1st!!
Robert Gallery to the Patriots!
CSN New England’s Tom Curran hears the Patriots “remain enamored” with free agent OG Robert Gallery.
The report suggests Bill Belichick & Co. have been fans of Gallery for some time. Franchise player Logan Mankins should be locked in at left guard for one more year, and now-retired Stephen Neal’s right guard spot was presumed to be filled by versatile Dan Connolly. A Gallery signing would send Connolly back to the bench.
Related: Patriots
Source: CSN New England
May 19th, 2011 at 10:37 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Priest,
IMO, QB is a HUGE question mark going into the season. And since JC has no contract beyond this year, who’s to say the powers that be want this guy beyond this year? He’s clearly on the on a 1 year try out this year, and the fall back plan is Kyle Boeller?
That’s why.
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It’s a huge question mark because of the WRs we’re going to trot out there. Without big improvement there, no guy is going to come in here at QB and excel. If there is a training camp, I want Chaz sitting in a lawn chair the whole time taking “mental reps”.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Just passing on what is said about Kolb…
“Kolb has a tendency to check down early in his progression, the game he replaced Michael Vick in against the Washington Redskins is a perfect example of that.”
“He checks down more than Sanchez and that is saying a lot.”
Weaknesses: Kolb is not as good a passer as his talent suggests. While it is important for a quarterback to be willing to dump off passes to backs, he seems to do this way too fast — in fact, he almost seems to prefer this option instead of holding on to the ball and waiting in the pocket for routes to develop so that receivers can get open down the field. He has a habit of staring down his primary target and this allows the defender to break quickly on the ball too often. He does not seem as comfortable in the pocket when it starts to get squeezed. Kolb is not nearly as effective as when the pocket is clean and pressure-free (that’s true for all QBs, but Kolb’s discomfort is much more evident).
“Last week, Kolb was criticized for hitting his check down receiver too often and not looking down field…”
“NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi agrees, and notes that Kolb checks down way too much, taking receivers like DeSean Jackson out of the game”
May 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports a group of Oakland Raiders and Atlanta Falcons players are talking about holding a scrimmage next week in the Atlanta area. Oakland defensive tackle Richard Seymour is footing the bill for a large group of Raiders to work out next week on their own in Atlanta at a sports performance complex in Georgia.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:39 am
As long as DHB wears a Raider uniform the #1 pick is not necessary. As long as JaMeatball is ingrained in my memory the #1 pick should be traded.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
WOW
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R8eray Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You heard it here 1st!!
Robert Gallery to the Patriots!
May 19th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Dakota,
Do you think the fact that he was coming off a concussion had anything to do with how he played those 3 games?
Do you think he might have come back to early with all the Vick chatter going on?
May 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Robert Gallery to the Patriots!
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They continue to get out trash, lol.
I wonder how long Bradylocks abd Belichick will put up with the falst starts, holding, and 4 games missed because of a toe nail injury.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:52 am
I don’t know Jhill, but when I see a bunch of info on a guys problems it raises major red flags.
If we had Gruden as HC I would say go for it….but I don’t think Kolb would be the right fit right now….that is not an endorsement of Campbell, just don’t think Kolb is the answer.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:53 am
At the end of the day, we have all of our eggs in a QBs basket who is not signed past this year, AND whose skills are constantly questioned.
Quite simply would you rather have Kolb, or a QB we can get in next year’s draft which will be no higher than somewhere in the mid teens?
May 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Is there another QB out there that is available?
No to McNabb and VY!!!!!
The minute Hue gets pissed at Campbell again, all we have is Boeller, lol!
We HAVE to upgrade that scenario.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Jhill he needed an excuse and you provided it. LOL
I’m not saying the kids a bad QB but how do we know how good he is? I have heard all the HYPE I haven’t seen the production. Yet you want to give a 1st for him why?
How do you know you can’t get someone better at any position. We don’t even know if Camp is what Hue thinks he is. Now if we’re talking a 2nd or a 3rd I’m all for looking into it. But so far he’s just hype.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Never know, Al might get lucky with next year’s #1 pick (or he might be out of the picture by then God forbid)….and at least we know what we have in Campbell….better the devil you know etc…who knows what QB options we will have after this season, but gambling the pick on Kolb who has major question marks of his own? I don’t like it.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So you’re willing to pay a 1st for Camp’s backup when we only paid a 4th for Camp? It doesn’t make sense I would much rather get Mcnabb for half that.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:05 am
priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Jhill you guys just haven’t been through what I’ve been through with refs…….i’ll just put it that way.
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Just exactly what do you mean by that?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
We had so much success with getting rid of our #1 pick this year I wouldn’t mind seeing that occur every year. Coach really has to be smart about that.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:10 am
So you’re willing to pay a 1st for Camp’s backup when we only paid a 4th for Camp?
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Well it could very well end up that we paid a #1 for a quality starter, and a 4th for his backup.
I think we can kinda see alredy what wil be available next summer.
Gerrard
Campbell
Orton/Tebow/or Quinn
possibly Flacco
Of Jamarcus Russell is still out there.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Getting rid of first round picks is bad business in the long term. Ask the Redskins.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Satele is going to go somewhere and start, as is Bob Gallery. Same will probably hold for Carlisle
Veldheer was an all-rookie player to boot, so the theory of last year being a bad NFL O-line is just that, a theory.
Maybe the sum of the parts is not as good as the individuals, but we had legitimate NFL starters (who had already or will start somewhere else) all over that line.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:12 am
You already know JC CANNOT get it done. Even Jerry finally admitted JC couldnt carry our team last year when we needed him, You dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Boller has never thrown for 300 yds in his entire career, and he he had plenty of starts in his career. Boller and JC are not the answers. I’ll take Kolb, McNabb and VY anyday over the 2 clowns we got in JC and Boller.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:12 am
You already know JC CANNOT get it done. Even Jerry finally admitted JC couldnt carry our team last year when we needed him, You dont need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Boller has never thrown for 300 yds in his entire career, and he he had plenty of starts in his career. Boller and JC are not the answers. I’ll take Kolb, McNabb and VY anyday over the 2 clowns we got in JC and Boller.
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VY cant pass and is a headcase…..McNabb is done. I’ll take JC over them. But you are right I dont think JC can carry them like a brady brees manning rodgers or rivers but we can win with him
May 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Satele is going to go somewhere and start, as is Bob Gallery. Same will probably hold for Carlisle
Veldheer was an all-rookie player to boot, so the theory of last year being a bad NFL O-line is just that, a theory.
Maybe the sum of the parts is not as good as the individuals, but we had legitimate NFL starters (who had already or will start somewhere else) all over that line.
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Vegas Raider…………the oline was bad dude. No lie and even Hue admitted as much. We ran a hybrid power zbs scheme with svelte players. Against mediocre teams we did our thang but the better dlines worked us over
May 19th, 2011 at 11:20 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Is there another QB out there that is available?
No to McNabb and VY!!!!!
The minute Hue gets pissed at Campbell again, all we have is Boeller, lol!
We HAVE to upgrade that scenario.
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Im sure that scenario will be worked upon as will the OG spots and vet WR on offense. Free agency hasnt started bruh
May 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
The better Dlines work everyone over.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Getting rid of first round picks is bad business in the long term. Ask the Redskins.
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Sure it is bad business for 31 other teams but for the Raiders normal business logics do not apply. Al hasnt done crap with our first round picks in years. DMAC is the only exception so far. For every DMAC, we get the overreach like DHB, JR and a long list of failed first rounders by Al Davis, I’ll take Seymour over a #17 pick anyday.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Well I don’t think Campbell is the long-term answer, but replacing him with an unknown guy who has questionable abilities in Kolb, or a guy that is a mental midget and can’t pass in Young, or a guy who would just mail it in for a paycheck in McNabb just doesn’t make sense at this point.
Campbell already knows the system and a new Qb will be at a big disadvantage with the truncated offseason they will have to deal with this year.
Keep Campbell this year, save our first round pick and hope some better option pops up next offseason if Campbell doesn’t show major improvement.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Sounds like a proactive plan by the Raiders to increase their season ticket sales, which they need badly. 23K base with season ticket holders? Gawd.
Only old man Al Davis and his cronies are to blame for that and no one else!
Picking another CB ahead of a bloodline legacy player like Casey Matthews in the 4th round is one of those types of decisions that pisses off the fanbase and makes them not want to buy season tickets. Of course….stupid picks like DHB and the signings of J Walker, D Hall, and the dumb pick of J Russell and giving these players big time money, is one of the many reasons why Raider Nation isn’t going to spend their hard earned money on season tickets.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_18091227
May 19th, 2011 at 11:23 am
R8eray Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports a group of Oakland Raiders and Atlanta Falcons players are talking about holding a scrimmage next week in the Atlanta area. Oakland defensive tackle Richard Seymour is footing the bill for a large group of Raiders to work out next week on their own in Atlanta at a sports performance complex in Georgia.
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Wow it seems like Al’s guys really wanna play and be the best lol
May 19th, 2011 at 11:23 am
I hear you AIG, and I somewhat agree, but teams don’t trade great players for draft picks unless they are old like Seymour….I’ll take my chances that maybe Al can get it right once in a while in the first round over trading picks for guys other teams no longer want.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:24 am
VY has shown that he can carry his team. I dont rate VY or McNabb high either. I just know they are both a whole lot better than the stiffs we got in JC and Boller. Any successful QB in this league carry with him a cocky “I’ll carry us” attitude. JC doesnt have that and he will never be successful even though he has all the physical tools.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
The better Dlines work everyone over.
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No not everyone. What we are trying to build here is a dominant team. Its starts with oline. Better offense beats better defense right? You need a group of front that can win that battle against anyone
May 19th, 2011 at 11:27 am
VY has shown that he can carry his team.
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His team wins despite him….it is like saying Samake Walker carried the 2002 Lakers.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:28 am
LOL!
Our OG problem?
Management doesn’t see it that way.
Let’s just say that Loper and Campbell will be playing somewhere. Loper may suck in your opinion, but he’s being paid like a starter. Bruce Campbell has Al drooling! He’s going to play.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Well I don’t think Campbell is the long-term answer, but replacing him with an unknown guy who has questionable abilities in Kolb, or a guy that is a mental midget and can’t pass in Young, or a guy who would just mail it in for a paycheck in McNabb just doesn’t make sense at this point.
Campbell already knows the system and a new Qb will be at a big disadvantage with the truncated offseason they will have to deal with this year.
Keep Campbell this year, save our first round pick and hope some better option pops up next offseason if Campbell doesn’t show major improvement.
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This is all I’ve been trying to say. I never yelled pro bowler, hall of famer or 60 million dollar status for the guy. But he is the only QB you can get right now that will give you the max potential to have a powerful offense.
I keep saying 2011 is year of no excuses and he is included. This is his big chance
May 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
IMO, our Oline was lousy at the beginning of the year and it certainly got better by the end of the year. We have the #2 rushing attack in the league and that didnt happen by accident. DMAC was a big reason but his rushing numbers were not league leaders.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Our Oline is going to be …
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
You’re in denial if you think it wii go any other way.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Our Oline is going to be …
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
You’re in denial if you think it wii go any other way.
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Might be, so we better start planning for a top 10 pick again.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Dakota,
Look at the Titan’s win/loss record in 2009 with Kerry Collins and VY. Same set of players including CJ under Collins but they vastly improved their W/L with VY back there. VY has carried his team and the data supports that. Headcase? Heck yeah but dude carried his team in college to a national championship and turned the Titans 2009 season around after that 0-6 start under Kerry Collins.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
This is his big chance
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Which basically translates to he hasn’t done it yet, and most of us are still waiting.
I agree 100%.
Should we really have all of our eggs in that basket?
My biggest concern in all of this is Boeller being the next guy in line. I think that is what I’m really trying to upgrade, and if that player happens to pass JC on the roster, then even better.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
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Agreed and for better or worst, I’m rolling with that line. Might as well see what these young kids can do.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
if that player happens to pass JC on the roster, then even better.
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Problem is AD will not bring in anyone that will push JC. We saw that JC can’t handle the pressure from competition and AD will make sure there is no controversy to support AD’s Jim Plunkett II claim. Is Charlie Frye signed for this year?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:28 am
LOL!
Our OG problem?
Management doesn’t see it that way.
Let’s just say that Loper and Campbell will be playing somewhere. Loper may suck in your opinion, but he’s being paid like a starter. Bruce Campbell has Al drooling! He’s going to play.
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You cant be serious with this Loper thing man. Guy is a fringe NFL player and you believe we are going into season with him in between Veldheer and Wiz lol….amazing my brotha.
The Raiders wanna make that push to being a contender year and year out. Its gonna have to start up front and guard is vital now with these youngins on the outside and in the middle
Bruce Campbell? Come on man he needs to be over at RT competing with Barksdale. I cant have 4 young guys and a journeyman scrub like Loper holding down our line.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Dakota,
Why would you think that Oline would have us in the top 10 of the draft next year?
You don’t think Veldheer will be better year 2?
You don’t think a guy who started at LT at LSU can play RT in the NFL?
Is Bruce Campbell at RG really going to be worse that Carlisle?
It’s just blocking mayne!
May 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am
One penality that pissed me off was the Chris Johnson going to the kneee to “thank god” penality after a interception. The refs blew the call…
If Robert Gallery goes to the Pats, you really think they are going to give him the contract that he wanted from the Raiders. The Pats Logan Makins last year.
“But you have to consider that this guy is playing with zero running game in Philly.”
You do realize that the McCoy rushed for over 1080 yards last year and the Eagles managed almost over a 100 rushing yards per game. Also McCoy has one of the highest YPC average?
I would be higher on McCoy if he did not have tremendous talent around him in WRs, TE and RB.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Our Oline is going to be …
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
You’re in denial if you think it wii go any other way.
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Thought this was a playoff contending team…..guess not…my bad
May 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
This is his big chance
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Which basically translates to he hasn’t done it yet, and most of us are still waiting.
I agree 100%.
Should we really have all of our eggs in that basket?
My biggest concern in all of this is Boeller being the next guy in line. I think that is what I’m really trying to upgrade, and if that player happens to pass JC on the roster, then even better.
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WE feel better going into the season now for the first time in a long time. To say JC wasnt part of that would show bias and dishonesty. QB is only spot that has a stat of wins and losses. He isn’t a head case and is a good teammate. The extra harsh stuff he is getting from some on this blog is beyond crazy to me.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:45 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Dakota,
Why would you think that Oline would have us in the top 10 of the draft next year?
You don’t think Veldheer will be better year 2?
You don’t think a guy who started at LT at LSU can play RT in the NFL?
Is Bruce Campbell at RG really going to be worse that Carlisle?
It’s just blocking mayne!
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Yeah I agree….there is no technique to blocking and it really isnt a big factor in the outcome of games
May 19th, 2011 at 11:45 am
@J Hill
You do not think the B. Campbell is going to get a shot at RT? Just that the Raiders list him as T/G on the roster, only reading the tea leaves.
Or that we will keep Cooper Car to play RG?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
if that player happens to pass JC on the roster, then even better.
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Problem is AD will not bring in anyone that will push JC. We saw that JC can’t handle the pressure from competition and AD will make sure there is no controversy to support AD’s Jim Plunkett II claim. Is Charlie Frye signed for this year?
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JC was 7-5 vs Grad 1-3…..only one qb in this battle got a win streak and started and completed victory games….guess who that is
Now when you figure out the answer you will see who won the competition
May 19th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
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Agreed and for better or worst, I’m rolling with that line. Might as well see what these young kids can do.
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Not good enough to improve from 8-8. Those young kids need some real time starting NFL type vets in between them to help the learning curve. Blitzes and Stunts…all that shhht they’ll read faster than the other crap you are suggesting
May 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Dutch,
B Campbell may very well get a shot at RT. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him line up at LT.
I just know him and Loper will be starting somewhere.
Barksdale may be the rookie that get phased in. But at what position? Would be really surprised to see him at OG.
I guess it could be Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Carlisle-Campbell.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
AIG,
In reading the game summaries from the Titans 2009 season, particularly the 5 game winning streak after the 0-6 start one name really stood out….Chris Johnson….not Vince Young.
Young did lead them to a come from behind win against the Cards, but otherwise it looked like the Chris Johnson show. His passing stats in the other games? 139 yards, 172 yards, 210 yards, 116 yards. Yeah he really carried them.
Face it, the Titans were forced to dummy down their offense with Young and the focus went to the running game, which turned into a great plan and they won. If you would like to give VY credit for being so bad they had to go away from the passing game then I will leave you to it lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:56 am
The extra harsh stuff he is getting from some on this blog is beyond crazy to me.
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Like I said, it’s more about Boeller to me.
I’d feel a lot better about how the the organization felt about JC if he hadn’t been benched twice last year and had a contract past this year.
I’m just a bit nervous that at this point, we have NOTHING at QB past this year. I don’t think it’s too early to address our QB situation for next year. I’d hate to be sitting here next year with a failed JC experiment and nothing to fall back on.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:56 am
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Dutch,
B Campbell may very well get a shot at RT. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him line up at LT.
I just know him and Loper will be starting somewhere.
Barksdale may be the rookie that get phased in. But at what position? Would be really surprised to see him at OG.
I guess it could be Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Carlisle-Campbell.
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Makes zero sense now to put Campbell at RG now that we have killed the ZBS. His athleticism will be more needed outside against edge rushers IMO
Loper is insurance they not starting that cat if the players give up mid summer and free agency starts. They know he isnt a NFL starter
May 19th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Is Charlie Frye signed for this year?
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I actually like him better than Boeller.
I never understood why Gardowski was ahead of him that preseason Garcia was here.
If for nothing else, the laughs at all the pads that guy put on.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Raiders have the lowest attendance in the NFL. I wonder if the Dallas Cowboy coaches or the Denver Bronco coaches are charged with selling tickets right now?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
May 19th, 2011 at 11:59 am
We can’t have Boller as the #2 QB….I hope Frye can come back.
Boller is sh1111111ty.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Makes zero sense now to put Campbell at RG now that we have killed the ZBS.
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So why did we draft Barksdale?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Jhill….look at the round we drafted both guys in…..isnt it obvious why we drafted him?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
…..isnt it obvious why we drafted him?
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Round 2 draft picks should start.
Players that we trade next year’s #2 for should start.
So if we drafted Barksdale to start, and Veldheer is starting, how do you have Campbell at OT?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Dakota,
You’re judging VY based on a conventional QB format and that is wrong. VY will never be conventional. VY uses his legs and threatens you with it. Why do you think CJ started running better with VY back there? Perhaps they have to now put a spy on the QB rather than focusing directly on CJ. Here’s my bottomline, 0-6 with Kerry Collins and 7-8 in the next 8 games with VY. They both had the exact same supporting cast.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
[...] An all-hands-on-deck ticket plan Leave it to Amy Trask to figure out a way for Raiders employees to spend their down time. [...]
May 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Better offense beats better defense right?
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Bauce,
As far as elite play-makers and QB’s yes, but I have always believed D-line is the 2nd most important position (behind QB) because a dominant D-line will smash on the dominant O-lines 9 times out of 10.
Look at us vs. the Ravens in 2000. We had what was AT LEAST considered a very good O-line, and we stood zero chance.
The Steelers are the Steelers, the Ravens are the Ravens, and the Packers are the SB champs, because no matter who they play, up front defensively, they are going to cause havoc, week in and week out.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I’ll take Jeff Fisher’s word on VY.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Kell, look at the bright side. If nobody buys tickets, Raider execs start getting the ax, right? I’d say the boycotts are finally starting to have some teeth!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
They only way I would want VY here, is if we shipped off Soup to get him.
VY will not be a good #2 in this league, he is a starter or bust.
He will plead to the media, and on twitter to start if he is not starting, will be a distraction and won’t be the traditional rah-rah, heady backup QB SUPPORTING the starter that teams want from their #2.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I can’t roll with the VY propoganda.
I hate that guy. Put the quitting and sissy stuff with his lack of passing skills, and he is just not who I want running my team.
I think I would honestly want Russell back before I welcomed VY to SnB.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Campbell is another typical Al Davis QB. Tall, slow release, another Kerry Collins. Worked out well last time…
May 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RichGannon12 Rich Gannon
Love what Seymour and Campbell are doing with the Raiders in Atlanta! Leadership taking hold in Oakland…I love it!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Raiders have the lowest attendance in the NFL. I wonder if the Dallas Cowboy coaches are charged with selling tickets right now?
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nope they are taking pay cuts
May 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Young’s not the answer. Too many mental issues. We really should have kept Gradkowski, and then made a move for a QB in the draft this year. Think 3 years ahead, like the good teams in the league. But nope. We live for the now. And of course, Al Davis’s now is 1967.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Bauce,
dude, you dumped JC after the Niners game and got back on his bandwagon at the end of the year. Fck Grad, he’s gone. Is qualifying a Raider Starting QB based on what he does vs Grad or whether he is good enough to carry his team in this league? I tend to measure JC up against the winning QB’s in our league. 7-5 is nothing to brag about considering it has been proven that he was merely riding the ground game’s coat tail rather than leading that 7-5 record.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
and the Packers are the SB champs, because no matter who they play, up front defensively, they are going to cause havoc, week in and week out.
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Disagree.
I think Aaron Rogers had a little something to do with this.
And the Steelers minus Hairamaulu are nothing more than average.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
there are plenty of qbs on the market and we will have one to compete for no.2
sucks this lockout won’t be over at least till july maybe longer.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
The Raiders also have the worse attendance on the road.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
May 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Campbell’s a “leader” because he’s working out in the off season? Don’t most players work out in the off season? Typical of Raider fans to assume their players to be “leaders” for merely showing up. Guess that’s how pathetic it’s gotten. I’m going to wait till Campbell shows leadership skills on the field before I call him a leader. I’m quirky that way.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
considering it has been proven that he was merely riding the ground game’s coat tail rather than leading that 7-5 record.
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And that is about all we need if the offense is run correctly.
We should feature McFadden and Bush no matter who the QB is.
I’d be happy with something like 15/25 220 yds 2 TDs 1 int from our QB week in and week out.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Kell, basically Al Davis is a burden on the league. He loses the league money year after year. Yet he’s this humble, little old man who’s being picked on by the league, according to his followers. Yeah. They’re picking on him so much, they’ve made no moves whatsoever to get rid of him, even though he’s a money pit.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Campbell’s a “leader” because he’s working out in the off season? Don’t most players work out in the off season? Typical of Raider fans to assume their players to be “leaders” for merely showing up. Guess that’s how pathetic it’s gotten. I’m going to wait till Campbell shows leadership skills on the field before I call him a leader. I’m quirky that way.
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RichGannon12 Rich Gannon
Love what Seymour and Campbell are doing with the Raiders in Atlanta! Leadership taking hold in Oakland…I love it!
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THERE GOES YOUR IMAGE OF GANNON, FUKF*CE
May 19th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I don’t know what your point is, Raider E, but I’ll say that Gannon at least proved to be a leader on the field as well as off. Campbell is yet to do that.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
136.Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Our Oline is going to be …
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
You’re in denial if you think it wii go any other way.
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Might be, so we better start planning for a top 10 pick again.
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It worries me about having a whole starters on the O-Line this upcoming year.
3 rookies (Wiz, Campbell redshirt, Barksdale)a 2nd year player Veldheer and a backup Loper as the 2011 starting O-Line??
Ugh….They better ALL step it the hell up!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
And that is about all we need if the offense is run correctly.
We should feature McFadden and Bush no matter who the QB is.
I’d be happy with something like 15/25 220 yds 2 TDs 1 int from our QB week in and week out.
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Agreed. If Hue plays it just like he called it against SD in SD last year, then I can see us making the playoffs. If not, good luck to another disappointing season.
Only winning formula I see for 2011, #1 ground game, top 3 D, and top 5 spec team. I dont even bother counting our passing game due to our poor QB and WR’s.
If Hue gets happy with trying to prove Al’s passing game, then we are fcked!!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
It figures you wouldnt get it, tell you what, why dont you get my 20 bucks ho????
May 19th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Raiders have the lowest attendance in the NFL. I wonder if the Dallas Cowboy coaches or the Denver Bronco coaches are charged with selling tickets right now?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
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It doesnt stop ever lol….got a link?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
raiders camp in georgia is supposed to have an 11 on 11 scrimmage with the falcons. pretty cool
May 19th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
149.Bauce Rules Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
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Agreed and for better or worst, I’m rolling with that line. Might as well see what these young kids can do.
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Not good enough to improve from 8-8. Those young kids need some real time starting NFL type vets in between them to help the learning curve. Blitzes and Stunts…all that shhht they’ll read faster than the other crap you are suggesting
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Yep. Too many young kids on that O-Line with limited pro experience. There will be a learning curve.
If this happens….expect the O-Line to take a step back from last years O-Line.
Last years starting O-Line started off slow, but got better and better as the season went along. They began to gel and play together as a unit.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Sounds like a proactive plan by the Raiders to increase their season ticket sales, which they need badly. 23K base with season ticket holders? Gawd.
Only old man Al Davis and his cronies are to blame for that and no one else! Oy vey!
Picking another CB ahead of a bloodline legacy player like Casey Matthews in the 4th round is one of those types of decisions that pisses off the fanbase and makes them not want to buy season tickets. Of course….stupid picks like DHB and the signings of J Walker, D Hall, and the dumb pick of J Russell and giving these players big time money, is one of the many reasons why Raider Nation isn’t going to spend their hard earned money on season tickets.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_18091227
May 19th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
You never know, these young guys on the o-line might turn into the 1990s Dallas o-line….but I doubt it, so we damned well better get some vets in there for insurance.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Oh and spending big money on guys like Routt, Eugene and Loper instead of resigning solid vets who provide valuable leadership like Nnamdi, Huff and Gallery also is part of the reason why the Raiders have a VERY low season ticket base!
Those type of weird decisions by old man Al don’t help!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
…..isnt it obvious why we drafted him?
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Round 2 draft picks should start.
Players that we trade next year’s #2 for should start.
So if we drafted Barksdale to start, and Veldheer is starting, how do you have Campbell at OT?
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We stocking depth man and gonna let our young guys compete for the two spots. Simple as that. We are going for a bigger oline and that means bigger guards. Bruce wouldnt be considered a big mauler power guard now is he?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
If this happens….expect the O-Line to take a step back from last years O-Line.
Last years starting O-Line started off slow, but got better and better as the season went along.
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I’m trying to get some clarification on what taking a step back means. Can it possibly be any worse than the “slow start” we got off to last year?
Why don’t you think these young guys will pick things up and gel just like it is alleged last year’s Oline did?
Blitzes and stunts have a lot to do with our pass blocking. Personally, I think we should go run heavy intially and the power blocking scheme isn’t that difficult to pick up.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Oh and spending big money on guys like Routt, Eugene and Loper instead of resigning solid vets who provide valuable leadership like Nnamdi, Huff and Gallery
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Big Money?
Loper took the $ Gallery rejected.
Eugene got 2 million a year. You think Huff takes that?
You think Nnamdi would have taken the $ Routt signed for?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Bauce,
dude, you dumped JC after the Niners game and got back on his bandwagon at the end of the year. Fck Grad, he’s gone. Is qualifying a Raider Starting QB based on what he does vs Grad or whether he is good enough to carry his team in this league? I tend to measure JC up against the winning QB’s in our league. 7-5 is nothing to brag about considering it has been proven that he was merely riding the ground game’s coat tail rather than leading that 7-5 record.
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I never dumped the idea but he sure did suck that game. I was there and was awfully pissed at that and still a lil steamed bout it to be honest. But he let himself off the hook winning 3 straight games. By midseason I was fine with dude. So you are off there. I was against the grad move in november 100 pct and posts will show that.
LOL how is 7-5 as a starter for a franchise that had trouble winning more than 5 games in a season seen as a negative? Explain that to me
May 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
How many sacks did Veldheer give up last season?
How hid the run game perform when Loper was playing LG for Gallery?
How many scouts had Wiz as a second rounder?
Campbell has zero experience.
A rookie at RT?
That is some scary azzzz stuff. That cannot be the o-line we go into 2011 with.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
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May 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Bruce wouldnt be considered a big mauler power guard now is he?
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Why not?
Because he’s not fat?
Isn’t dude like 6′6 315lbs?
How big do you want the OGs to be mayne?
May 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
what’s with all the raider bashing on a raiders fan site. all of us have endured the last 8 yrs right with you but things are on the upswing. very few positions are in need of all stars. teams with leadership and core talent make everyone better around them. that’s where we are headed regardless of other personnel and you should be ok with that. we bring in leaders and let the big $ players who don’t win games for us go. that’s how other teams do it. Nnamdi won’t win a team a SB nor will huff. guys like seymour and campbell sure will.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Better offense beats better defense right?
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Bauce,
As far as elite play-makers and QB’s yes, but I have always believed D-line is the 2nd most important position (behind QB) because a dominant D-line will smash on the dominant O-lines 9 times out of 10.
Look at us vs. the Ravens in 2000. We had what was AT LEAST considered a very good O-line, and we stood zero chance.
The Steelers are the Steelers, the Ravens are the Ravens, and the Packers are the SB champs, because no matter who they play, up front defensively, they are going to cause havoc, week in and week out.
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But check what I said about being able to beat all types of dlines. The 2000 Raiders oline was good but not great. Ravens have a great dline and had a great oline play. We had good dline play. We have to make that step to great. Good isnt enough to win titles
May 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Dakota,
What would be scary is going into the season with the same line we had last year. You’ve been screaming for Oline changes via the draft, now you have them.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Which Al Davis statue would you guys rather see:
A. Coach Davis circa 1963
B. Commissioner Davis circa 1966
C. Owner Al Davis circa 1983 clutching 3 Super Bowl trophies.
d. Overhead projector Al.
Vote often and early.
Go Raiders!
May 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Bruce wouldnt be considered a big mauler power guard now is he?
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Why not?
Because he’s not fat?
Isn’t dude like 6′6 315lbs?
How big do you want the OGs to be mayne?
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I want fat motherfking guards like Dallas use to have dammit. Fk it why lie? I have a center 313 lbs now I want some 325-340 lb guards in there to help him
May 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I remember the Great Raider O-Lines vs the Great Steeler D-Lines.
Great battles, but I think the Steelers won most of those games.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
198.J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Dakota,
What would be scary is going into the season with the same line we had last year. You’ve been screaming for Oline changes via the draft, now you have them.
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I didn’t ask for 4th rounders or guys taken in the 2nd round who have 4th round talent to be the answer for the o-line.
May 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
How many sacks did Veldheer give up last season?
How hid the run game perform when Loper was playing LG for Gallery?
How many scouts had Wiz as a second rounder?
Campbell has zero experience.
A rookie at RT?
That is some scary azzzz stuff. That cannot be the o-line we go into 2011 with.
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Logan Mankins and Harvey Dahl would be most ideal if we could swing it
May 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I remember the Great Raider O-Lines vs the Great Steeler D-Lines.
Great battles, but I think the Steelers won most of those games.
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Raiders oline still had ability to beat a team though and did. Steelers owned that decade as evidenced bythe titles but Raiders proved they can beat a dominant dline
May 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Jhill you honestly think the Raiders are gonna go into a season where the expectations are high with 4 super young olinemen and a journeyman guard? To protect Campbell without a vet WR?
This will not lead to anything but a 6-10 campaign
May 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Why whine about penalties?
Whining about penalties is for losers.
If you want to direct the blame on bad coaching, coaching changes, etc for lack of discipline, then go for it.
But to whine about refs is for children.
Every team gets penalties.
Every team can submit calls for ref review/discipline.
Turns out refs makes mistakes on every team throughout the year.
Stop crying. Makes you look the fool.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I didn’t ask for 4th rounders or guys taken in the 2nd round who have 4th round talent to be the answer for the o-line.
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C’s are usually taken in the 2nd rd or later.
OGs are usually taken in rd 3 or later.
RTs are usually taken in the 2nd or 3rd rd.
Seems like we are right on track except for the 3rd round LT.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
DaveB Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Why whine about penalties?
Whining about penalties is for losers.
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Agreed, whining about penalties and wild conspiracies is for losers.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I didnt mean harvey Dahl lol…I meant Duece Luiti…..damn the purple lol
May 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Bauce,
Let’s take his 7 wins and pls break down for me how he was instrumental in winning those 7 games. You’re football expert right? I look forward to you breaking down the games and JC was instrumental to winning those games for me.
Here’s a prediction for you, I guarantee that you will drop JC like a hot potato by the 8th game of the season. Guaranteed!
I’ll send you a gift cert for a 12 pack of beer at Safeway if JC is not benched by that time.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
B,
I think that Veldheer will be our starting LT.
I think Wiz will start on the Oline.
I’m pretty sure Bruce Campbell will be starting on the line somewhere.
I’d be surprised if we paid Loper that kinda change to sit on the sideline.
You know what they say about 1+1 …
May 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I can already see JC’s excuse for the 2011 season failure…oh the Oline sucked. IMO, it can’t be any worst off than the ones we had in the past few years.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Hard to have faith that Campbell and Veldheer can make a great jump from year one to year two, or that two rookies can jump into the mix without the benefit of an offseason….no offense to the merry bunch working out in Atl.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Logan Mankins has been franchised but under new cba you dont know what is gonna happen with that. He would be perfect the LG to help Veldheer and Wiz tremendously. He aint happy with what New England is doing with his contract. Al will pay that mutha some long term dough for sure. He can run block and pass block. He is smart and very tough
Now Duece Lutui is a talented young guy who is big as well. He has deep postseason experience and can help Wiz and whatever young RT wins in Napa. 2010 he didnt play well which I say good! Now we can get him at not such a high price
Time to be mean and nasty again
May 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Last year was the best O-line we fielded in years.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Broncos turned down Hardknocks too….interesting.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Bauce,
Let’s take his 7 wins and pls break down for me how he was instrumental in winning those 7 games. You’re football expert right? I look forward to you breaking down the games and JC was instrumental to winning those games for me.
Here’s a prediction for you, I guarantee that you will drop JC like a hot potato by the 8th game of the season. Guaranteed!
I’ll send you a gift cert for a 12 pack of beer at Safeway if JC is not benched by that time.
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There is one indisputable fact in football….the qb position is only one that has W-L stat attached to it.
I wouldnt say I’m an expert on football. That’s overstating it. I’m a Raider though. I feel I got better than average knowledge on it. I just know how to present an argument
So what u are saying is by midseason JC wont be QBing for the Raiders due to performance?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I can already see JC’s excuse for the 2011 season failure…oh the Oline sucked. IMO, it can’t be any worst off than the ones we had in the past few years.
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Excuse time has run out for alot of people just not JC. 2011 you need to win division and be in playoffs. Simple as that
May 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
But giving him a oline of 4 super green lineman and a scrub isnt helping him for damn sure. I know you agree?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
216.Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Broncos turned down Hardknocks too….interesting.
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They don’t need to be on the spotlight, they need worry about getting better.
They should just have the Packers be on Hard Knocks and get it over with.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Broncos turned down Hardknocks too….interesting.
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LOL….so if it is the Raiders….Chad for sure is coming to Oakland. It would be comedy
May 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Face it. We might just be the worst of all time at either signing qb’s, or developing them.
Each year it seems the same arguments are on almost every Raider board, that we need a franchise qb, or that posters are tired of picking up projects, or retreads.
I know I am, because this story gets old, and the exchanges are predictable.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
[...] is staying bustling and useful by any means necessary. Even if that means Chuck Bresnahan has to sell a few deteriorate tickets himself to keep collecting a [...]
May 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
The O-Linemen better have Hue Jacksons playbook and they better be studying that sucker hard while working out on their own and getting stronger! Especially getting stronger on the legs!
May 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
What I’m saying is JC is useless. He aint starter material in this league other than for 2 franchises. One that drafted him in the first round and one that had the owner boasting him as the savior.
A good QB should not be benched again and again. I dare anyone to tell me JC will not be benched in 2011. If you think he is that good for us than you should be willing to state that he will not be benched in 2011. I know 100% he will be benched again. I have no doubts about that.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
With only 22,000 season ticket holders, Al Davis should jump all over HBO’s Hardknocks.
All he has to do is stay out of sight.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
DKnight007 Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
216.Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Broncos turned down Hardknocks too….interesting.
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They don’t need to be on the spotlight, they need worry about getting better.
They should just have the Packers be on Hard Knocks and get it over with.
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Yeah I can see that Packers may not even be interested. Al’s old ass may say “Fk it, bring their cameras but I want executive control of what is broadcasted or you can go straight to hell”
May 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
5.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 18th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
The good news is you’re fired. The bad news is you got all you got, just one week to regain your job, starting with tonight, starting with tonight’s sits. Oh, have I got your attention now? Good. ‘Cause we’re adding a little something to this month’s sale contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is your fired. You get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Al Davis paid good money. Get their names to sell them. You can’t close the leads you’re given, you can’t close $hit, you are $hit, hit the bricks pal and beat it ’cause you are going out.
Go Raiders!
Lemmon: The leads are weak.
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Glengarry Glenn Ross!
Great movie! LOL!
May 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Since Plunkett, the following qb’s have been named starter, at some point. (I think that’s everyone)
Marc Wilson
Rusty Hilger
Jay Schroeder
Steve Beuerlein
Todd Marinovich
Jeff Hostetler
Vince Evans
Jeff George
Billy Joe Hobert
Wade Wilson
Donald Hollas
Rick Mirer
Rich Gannon
Marques Tuiasosopo
Kerry Collins
Aaron Brooks
Andrew Walter
Josh McCown
Daunte Culpepper
JaMarcus Russell
Bruce Gradkowski
Jason Campbell
That list pretty much sums up one of our biggest problems, which is bad choices on who’s behind center.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
What I’m saying is JC is useless. He aint starter material in this league other than for 2 franchises. One that drafted him in the first round and one that had the owner boasting him as the savior.
A good QB should not be benched again and again. I dare anyone to tell me JC will not be benched in 2011. If you think he is that good for us than you should be willing to state that he will not be benched in 2011. I know 100% he will be benched again. I have no doubts about that.
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I doubt he will be benched for performance AIG. Wishful thinking on your part but he is one of the leaders of this team and is taking on a leadership role. Saying he is useless is showing you have an aqenda in the whole matter. You are denying factual things
May 19th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
With only 22,000 season ticket holders, Al Davis should jump all over HBO’s Hardknocks.
All he has to do is stay out of sight.
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Please Al needs a 5 minute segment of just him talking every episode
May 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
HBO and Raiders in hard knocks?
Can’t see HBO ever making the offer, actually. Al wants control over everything, which means it won’t ever happen.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
I can’t see Campbell being benched in favor of Boeller.
That would mean the wheels would have completely come off, and we’re headed towarsd Andrew Luck.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Hardknocks is gonna be a two week deal this year anyhow due to the lockout….it will be a cool two weeks though….chaos baby!
May 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“I doubt he will be benched for performance AIG.”
JC already got benched for non-performance, more than once.
And by Hue.
Hue’s azz is on the line.
First year as HC.
If JC does another swandive and has a game or two of low qb ratings, and grumblings start, only a fool would leave him in, and Hue doesn’t appear to be a fool.
If you are saying he won’t have any bad performance games?
You apparently didn’t see him play last year.
He’s very capable of a bad game.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
So, Rod Woodson has to sell season tickets now, seriously?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
new post
May 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DaveB Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“I doubt he will be benched for performance AIG.”
JC already got benched for non-performance, more than once.
And by Hue.
Hue’s azz is on the line.
First year as HC.
If JC does another swandive and has a game or two of low qb ratings, and grumblings start, only a fool would leave him in, and Hue doesn’t appear to be a fool.
If you are saying he won’t have any bad performance games?
You apparently didn’t see him play last year.
He’s very capable of a bad game.
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I’m more than positive he will have more than one bad game. I never said he is a great QB and even they have bad games. Hue is not fool you are right thats why JC is starting in 2011. He leading the offense still did very well despite your criticism of him. He will complete 60 pct of his passes is mobile and has strong enough of an arm to make all the throws. That is not a garbage QB.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
MistaBrown Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I would do that deal in a heartbeat.
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J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Should we trade our next year’s #1 pick to the Eagles for Kolb?
Personally, I wouldn’t have a problem with that.
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If you’re going to use a 1st rd pick on any QB, shouldn’t you try and use it with other picks for a top notch QB like Andrew Luck?
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