Wylie bides his time with Mushroom Society
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, May 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Other than head coach Hue Jackson, the most significant hire of the Raiders’ offseason was someone named Bob Wylie.
Wylie will coach the Raiders’ offensive line, a unit that has a new center in Stefen Wisniewski and a left tackle in Jared Veldheer but other than that is a mystery.
Given that the performance of the offensive line will be crucial in Jackson’s quest to “build a bully,” Wylie has a huge responsibility. Rumor has it that Wylie likes to entertain co-workers with acts of magic, a skill which could come in handy if the lockout goes into August and he attempts to conjure up a line with a lot of new parts.
Wylie’s hire was not major news in part because the assistant line coach, Steve Wisniewski, is a Raider legend. Wylie was an assistant line coach himself last year in Denver and spent some time coaching in the Canadian Football League.
But there’s little in the way of line play Wylie hasn’t seen or heard, as evidenced by a clinic he puts on each year in Cincinnati which brings together professional and college line coaches from all over the country to talk shop and determine the best way to put a defender on the ground.
The two day event is Friday and Sunday, opening with North Carolina line coach Stan Pittman discussing “Ways to get the Ball Outside, the Outside Zone and Taxi Play,” followed by Auburn’s Jeff Grimes on the topic of “The Open Side Gap Scheme Run Game (Power & Counter)”
Saturday’s seminars will feature Cleveland Browns line coach George Warhop, Atlanta’s Paul Boudreau, the Steelers Sean Kugler and Green Bay’s James Campen.
It’s called the C.O.O.L. Clinic (Coaches of Offensive Linemen) and put on by Wylie and a core of line coaches who call themselves “The Mushroom Society.” Why?
Because, according to the clinic’s Web site, “The mushroom logo signifies the similarity between the “O-Line” coach and the fungus. Both are kept in the dark and fed garbage yet continue to flourish!”
As much as I wanted to get into more detail with Wylie about his background and the challenges ahead, an interview request was politely declined by the club.
Assuming there is a training camp, how the offensive line shakes out will be one of the more interesting stories in Napa.
Samson Satele may have been the Raiders’ most consistent lineman last year and he will give way to Wisniewski. He can play guard but hasn’t done it in the NFL.
Robert Gallery has thanked the Raiders but said he plans to move on Khalif Barnes wasn’t interested in another one-year contract to be a backup lineman and blocking tight end, but the book isn’t necessarily closed on him. Nor is it closed on Mario Henderson or Langston Walker, both of whom are also not under contract.
Right guard Cooper Carlisle remains, a veteran whose strength is zone blocking on a team which will only occasionally block in that style.
One of Wylie’s marching orders will be to develop Bruce Campbell, the 2010 combine phenom who never saw the field as a rookie except on special teams. Campbell played exclusively at right guard in practice.
Nothing is carved in stone, but the longer the players are out, the tougher it will be for players to switch positions, develop their timing and learn new technique as taught by Wylie and Steve Wisniewski.
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May 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Hardknocks is gonna be a two week deal this year anyhow due to the lockout….it will be a cool two weeks though….chaos baby!
May 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
DaveB Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“I doubt he will be benched for performance AIG.”
JC already got benched for non-performance, more than once.
And by Hue.
Hue’s azz is on the line.
First year as HC.
If JC does another swandive and has a game or two of low qb ratings, and grumblings start, only a fool would leave him in, and Hue doesn’t appear to be a fool.
If you are saying he won’t have any bad performance games?
You apparently didn’t see him play last year.
He’s very capable of a bad game.
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I’m more than positive he will have more than one bad game. I never said he is a great QB and even they have bad games. Hue is not fool you are right thats why JC is starting in 2011. He leading the offense still did very well despite your criticism of him. He will complete 60 pct of his passes is mobile and has strong enough of an arm to make all the throws. That is not a garbage QB.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Man, another college player died.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Is Wylie selling tickes now, Jerr?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Jerry
Why would Al Davis call you Jerr, what are you doing for him?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Man, another college player died.
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Cold life man……sad another young dude goes out
May 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
True KK, Al can’t even get his HC’s names right, but he has a pet name for Jerry?
Interesting…..
May 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Al totally reads this blog.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
True KK, Al can’t even get his HC’s names right, but he has a pet name for Jerry?
Interesting…..
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You don’t see a lot of Al Davis “analysis” here, unless a poster provides it.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Bauce,
JC’s physical skills have never been doubted. The same reason Al Davis fell in love with JC is the same reason you like him. It is the stuff between his ears that is lacking.
Hue Jack has no choice with JC. JC starting is a directive from AD and let’s call a spade a spade. Hue Jack benched JC before for performance or lack there of and it will happen again this year. You know that as well but afraid to face the reality.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Al totally reads this blog.
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Raider front office personnel, certainly.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
9.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
True KK, Al can’t even get his HC’s names right, but he has a pet name for Jerry?
Interesting…..
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You don’t see a lot of Al Davis “analysis” here, unless a poster provides it.
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Couldn’t blame Jerr, if he is, for taking some money under the table from Al what with the furloughs and all….
May 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Who’s got the SHROOMS?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
As Jerry Mc said it a month back on 95.7, JC is your best pitcher when you have a 5 runs lead. Other than that, good luck.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Couldn’t blame Jerr, if he is, for taking some money under the table from Al what with the furloughs and all….
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Me neither
May 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
You guys are DELUSIONAL if you think anyone who works for the Raiders reads the COMMENTS of this blog.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
You guys are DELUSIONAL if you think anyone who works for the Raiders reads the COMMENTS of this blog.
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You’re delusional if you don’t think so.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
The COMMENTS Kell?
Are you serious?
Why would they do that?
May 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
The Raider front office not only read this blog, but post on this blog.
May 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Doc… these guys are way too impressed with thenselves…
May 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Reading the blog is one thing but do you actually think they read the COMMENTS?
If so, WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO GAIN???
May 19th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Al Davis’ image, is everything to those people. The Raider team is a distant 2nd.
You think the Raiders weren’t interested in that Billboard conversation, seriously?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
You can’t read this blog and ignore the fact that there are often several hundred and sometimes thousands of comments.
They look at the comments.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Doc… these guys are way too impressed with thenselves…
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Look who’s talking, geez! lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
24.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Doc… these guys are way too impressed with thenselves…
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Look who’s talking, geez! lol.
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lol
May 19th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
A billboard is one thing but the steam of endless comments on an internet blog is another.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Bauce,
JC’s physical skills have never been doubted. The same reason Al Davis fell in love with JC is the same reason you like him. It is the stuff between his ears that is lacking.
Hue Jack has no choice with JC. JC starting is a directive from AD and let’s call a spade a spade. Hue Jack benched JC before for performance or lack there of and it will happen again this year. You know that as well but afraid to face the reality.
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How is stuff between his ears the issue? You calling him a dumb qb?
How do you know he will bench again. JC did enough in that last 5 game stretch for Hue to have confidence in him going forward. JC played well after the big mistake week of Miami starting Gradkowski. Hue saw what Miami did to Grad was what they would never do to JC…….barely rush and sit 8 back in coverage.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Al Davis cared more about the pimple on ass than he did that billboard. Anyone thinking Mr Davis has time for that crap is really delusional.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I wouldnt doubt Raider employees read this blog for its humor. Kell and MR lead the party
May 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I mean look at the facts:
I told you Fargas was crap….gone.
I told you Curry was crap….gone.
I told you Cable was crap…gone.
I told you Marshall was crap…gone.
I told you Brayton was crap…gone.
I said draft McFadden….we got him.
Hell, I am practically running the Raiders from this comment section.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Dakota and Kell think the Raiders brass read the comments of Jerry’s blog.
Interesting.
Do you guys think the comments section of Jerry’s blog effect the decision making process of the Raiders?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
AIG….I just dont know how you can diss a guy so bad who lead a team that swept the division. He must be doing something right to get the W in those games
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
I told the police as much.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
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Michael…..right when they go just go a few streets up to K&A in Alameda
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
32.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
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lmfao!!!! oh shyyyt I have tears rolling down my face! That is great on so many levels!
May 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Wow, Coach Southwick just called… got me season seats next to Larry King!
And he told me don’t be surprised if we ship DMAC to NE for Mankins, now that Taiwan is here…
May 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I mean look at the facts:
I told you Fargas was crap….gone.
I told you Curry was crap….gone.
I told you Cable was crap…gone.
I told you Marshall was crap…gone.
I told you Brayton was crap…gone.
I said draft McFadden….we got him.
Hell, I am practically running the Raiders from this comment section.
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Not really a good resume for ya if it took too long to get rid of the waste lol
May 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Kell, I like you.
I am seriously worried about your mental health if you think Raider’s employees are stalking you.
What would be their motives?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Wow, Coach Southwick just called… got me season seats next to Larry King!
And he told me don’t be surprised if we ship DMAC to NE for Mankins, now that Taiwan is here…
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LOL Bo……that wont happen….McFadden is a Raider…get over it
May 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
38.Bauce Rules Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I mean look at the facts:
I told you Fargas was crap….gone.
I told you Curry was crap….gone.
I told you Cable was crap…gone.
I told you Marshall was crap…gone.
I told you Brayton was crap…gone.
I said draft McFadden….we got him.
Hell, I am practically running the Raiders from this comment section.
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Not really a good resume for ya if it took too long to get rid of the waste lol
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Salary cap and contractual issues slowed things down lol
May 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
32.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
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LMFAO!
What was that you were saying about conspiracy theories?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Bauce,
The difference between you and I on JC is that you give JC all the credits for those W’s when he had little to do with it. I’ve debunked this all year last year and am tired to do it again. I’ll leave the ball in your court to break down JC’s 7 wins and tell me how he was instrumental in those wins.
Between the ears? No JC is not dumb. But football instincts is not measured in the classroom on a test. It is measured with the on field test. JC has consistently failed at those. The only time he ever won anything was in college when he had the best RB tandem in Cadillack and Ronnie. JC’s lack of fire and lack of ability to pull the trigger is what held him back all these years. Those are proven facts.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
If Wylie thrives on being “kept in the dark and fed garbage”, he came to the right organization.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
The only thing Al Davis cares about is what’s said about him in the media.
He needs to be worshiped by Raider Nation. Winning is a distant 2nd.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Kell, I like you.
I am seriously worried about your mental health if you think Raider’s employees are stalking you.
What would be their motives?
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To shut me up.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Kell, this isn’t the media.
It is the COMMENT section.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Ya know looking at the fins game recently….i remember Ricky Williams run and watching Michael Huff as the last line of defense….soft and cant take proper angles. He number one has to go
May 19th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Why would the Raiders spend energy trying to shut you up?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
AIG,
If DHB catches that dime JC dropped on him the the 4th qtr of the Jags game, then it might be a different conversation.
There was a dime he dropped on a WR in the SF game that would’ve went for 6, but the WR dropped it. I forget which WR it was, but it was right after JC overthrew a deep ball to another WR.
Steelers game, we are down 7, driving, and Murphy fumbles leading to a TD for the Steelers.
I still think our WRs were a big part of the problem LAST YEAR. JC won’t have that excuse this year with Ford, Moore, and a healthy Chaz and Murphy. Sprinkle in a little production from DHB and we might actually have something.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
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You won’t get this kind of info from Jerry. But, I post this one a lot.
Season ticket sales are going down, down, down. See what I’m saying?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Kell, you need to protect yourself!
You need to create a dossier with all the information you have on the Raider plot to get you, and then make five copies of said dossier and place them in banks around the world, and then contact several lawyers with instructions to be opened upon your untimely demise!
They are watching you! Be careful!
May 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Letting a bunch of fans tell you how to run an organization like the Oakland Raiders is the equivelant of listening to a classroom of 5 year olds tell the principle how to run the school. They know there is a school and class and recess and lunch and milk and cookies. But when it comes to administrating an NFL team fans are about as clueless as that class of 5 year olds.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Kell, you are a good guy but do yourself a favor and listen to the part of yourself that thinks this is paranoid thinking.
By the way I don’t doubt that people are harassing you but it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that they are in any way connected to the Raiders.
It is much more likely that it is someone from the COMMENT section of Jerry’s blog.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
53.priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Letting a bunch of fans tell you how to run an organization like the Oakland Raiders is the equivelant of listening to a classroom of 5 year olds tell the principle how to run the school. They know there is a school and class and recess and lunch and milk and cookies. But when it comes to administrating an NFL team fans are about as clueless as that class of 5 year olds.
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It would be better than listening to the players….then you end up with Joe Bugel….
May 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
The product on the field is the determining factor.
The comments on Jerry’s blog have zero effect.
See Kell, even an INBRED like Dakota knows this is laughable.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Looks like there will be no Falcons-Raiders scrimmage:
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2011/05/18/falcons-vs-raiders-could-happen-next-week/
May 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Kell, you are a good guy but do yourself a favor and listen to the part of yourself that thinks this is paranoid thinking.
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Thanks, it’s just a hunch, but I believe it, and when my office encouraged me to go to the police, I mentioned it.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
The product on the field is the determining factor.
The comments on Jerry’s blog have zero effect.
See Kell, even an INBRED like Dakota knows this is laughable.
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Dakota is hardly my last word on anything.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Brien,
Who SHOULD be the #1 pick in the NBA draft this summer? I think D. Williams should be the guy.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
C’mon Hill,
Let’s not do the JC thing all over again between you and I. JC has every chance to make himself the hero in the SF game (missed a wide open Murphy on a deepball) and the Jags game from Jags’ 40 yd line and more than enough time left when it counted. He didnt get it done and in the words of Priest….PERIOD.
You’re not even confident in JC this year so not even sure why you’re making excuses for JC.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Bauce,
The difference between you and I on JC is that you give JC all the credits for those W’s when he had little to do with it. I’ve debunked this all year last year and am tired to do it again. I’ll leave the ball in your court to break down JC’s 7 wins and tell me how he was instrumental in those wins.
Between the ears? No JC is not dumb. But football instincts is not measured in the classroom on a test. It is measured with the on field test. JC has consistently failed at those. The only time he ever won anything was in college when he had the best RB tandem in Cadillack and Ronnie. JC’s lack of fire and lack of ability to pull the trigger is what held him back all these years. Those are proven facts.
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You went thru what last year? You got proven wrong when the end result came buddy. JC undefeated in division, winning record, led a top 10 offense and endorsed by head coach as starter.
I’m glad you mentioned best RB tandems. You always fall into a trap by your own words. Dmac and Bush….how is that for a tandem? Added with smallish quick 3rd RB Jones. So what is the deal with all the benching talk?
Now I wont disagree with lack of just letting it rip. That is a for sure knock on him. But as we saw ending the season he started to and when it wasnt there he took off and ran.
You are under this impression I’m saying he is a top tier qb. But to say he did nada in those games he won is ridiculous. You said USELESS. Come on you saying he is an awful qb and that is not fact
May 19th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I am very hurt by your guys’ comments about me.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I REALLY hope Jon Condo reads the comment section…
I also know my DMAC trade posts lit the fire under the MsFelldown last season. He held onto the ball better and stopped tripping over the sidelines.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Brien,
Who SHOULD be the #1 pick in the NBA draft this summer? I think D. Williams should be the guy.
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That is little brother Bauce’s close friend. Was just in AZ with him some huge party got it crackin…..cool kid…..but yeah easily Cleveland should get him and for sure get Brandon Knight. Williams is by far better than everyone and Knight is a better PG than Irving.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
It would be pretty stupid to think that a business is not interested in what it’s customers are saying.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Anybody remember Lester Hayes taking a WR who just caught a TD next to him on the goal line and grabbing him by the shoulders and running with him and taking him straight into the goal post? Lester may even have gotten a technical on it. I cannot recall who that was. I think it was against Pitt. but cannot remember. Been scratching my head for months and now give up.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
66.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
It would be pretty stupid to think that a business is not interested in what it’s customers are saying.
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I think Coach Davis hears the sound of an half to 3/4 empty stadium. That is why he and Amy are pulling all the plugs in this ticket sales thing.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Bo,
Where have you been? I hold you personally responsible for the Lakers collapse.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I would love to overhear the sales call from the Oakland trainer to Norco Bob…
“OK. OK. I’m in for two seats, but I’ll really need a pain shot before gametime…”
May 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Kell, I think they “might” listen to season ticket holders but COMMENTS ON A BLOG?????
May 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Lakers collapsed because they have NO HEART.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Me? I’ve been at Wrigley. Soothing the pain.
Actually, my work IT staff has blocked any commenting. Now I just open up my personal laptop (Verizon broadband) on my desk and daytrade and chat on their dime.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Kell, I think they “might” listen to season ticket holders but COMMENTS ON A BLOG?????
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What season tickets holders?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
BTW, Rich Rodriguez is da debil.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
73.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Me? I’ve been at Wrigley. Soothing the pain.
Actually, my work IT staff has blocked any commenting. Now I just open up my personal laptop (Verizon broadband) on my desk and daytrade and chat on their dime.
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B@stard IT nerds. My Wrigley experience was good, not great. Lost to the Rockies 4-3 for the night game, then the day game was rained out.
Still cool to see Wrigley….but no Ivy….rainy and cloudy….I will be forced to go back in June or July some day.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Customers buy something.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Go Cubs. I was there last Wed. when the Cubs crushed STL after the rain delay. OUTSTANDING.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Having the “Bo Comedy Show” is something we miss lol
May 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I blame Artest.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Go Cubs. I was there last Wed. when the Cubs crushed STL after the rain delay. OUTSTANDING.
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Cubs lol….so in other news
May 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Bauce,
I see you refused to breakdown the 7 winning games you touted. Given no choice, I’ll come up with a few questions for you.
1. Jags game. Was that a crucial game for our season and was it the end of the season? How did he do when he was depended upon in the final series? I dont remember him letting it go but I do remember a dump off. The same dump off he pulled the season earlier in Detroit as a Skins.
2. Even with Bush, McFadden, a decent D and spec team, JC couldnt even take us to the playoff. He had a 7-5 record and you’re jumping for joy as if he won the SB. I see how losing has lowered the bar for you.
3. Hell, I’ll break down the entire season for games that JC was involved in.
@Tenn – Goats – D and JC
SD – Heroes – D, Spec Team, and Loper
@ SF – Goat – JC
@ Den – Heroes – Oline and McFadden
Sea – Hero – D gave up 3 points.
KC – Hero – Ford
@Pitt – Goat – JC and D
@ SD – Hero – Oline and Dline
@ Jags – Goats – D and JC
Den – Marcel Reece and DMAC
Ind – Goat – Hue Jack
@KC – Hero – D
Not even one game where you can state that JC carried us. But go ahead and claim to the 7-5 record because that’s all you have.
In the words of the great Bauce….WEAK SAUCE!
May 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Customers buy something.
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Doc, the Raiders are in sales, they’re interested in what their customer base is saying, ok?
If they were winning and sold out, maybe it would be different. They need a lot more than 22,000.
They want to know what the customer base is saying, and how to affect that.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
77.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Customers buy something.
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Lol, ticket sales are only a part of the NFL pie. You “buy” their product by tuning into the games and buying merchandise. If the fan base is not interested the team feels it, so there certainly is an incentive into knowing how your customer base feels about you.
May 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Bo blame management for not having athleticism around Kobe or any real depth on bench. Phil is gone now its time to trade Bynum,Gasol and Odom for some athletic players that can save Kobe’s legs. I namely mean Igoudala and Dwight Howard
May 19th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Doc, paranoid doesn’t even touch KK he says things that are soo out of the realm of possiblity you wonder if he is healthy.
Not that the orgnaization is not interested in it’s fans they most certainly are but reading a blog??? to find out is not even necessary. The most vocal fans call the office and talk to front office personnel. if you want your wishes heard that is the only way it MIGHT happen. Those people (coaches, owner, administration) have so much pressure on them. When you go to there offices they barely have time to do the business at hand let alone care about what priesttj said in a post on Jerry’s blog.
They get out of there and barely have time to see their kids and family before another day is upon them. They just don’t realize the stress those people are under from everyone in need interoffice to other teams and league issues. This lockout takes everything Mr Davis can do, the last thing he cares about is a debate on a blog…………….you’d have to crazy to do that if you’re Al Davis.
There are 50 blogs with every opinion imaginable who has the time to do that?
May 19th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Al’s philosophy on the subject is clear.
If you win, they will come.
If the Raiders ran a more “fan friendly organization” and still lost on the field… the results would be no different.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
85.Bauce Rules Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Bo blame management for not having athleticism around Kobe or any real depth on bench. Phil is gone now its time to trade Bynum,Gasol and Odom for some athletic players that can save Kobe’s legs. I namely mean Igoudala and Dwight Howard
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We should have kept Ariza, Farmar and Turiaf, but when you have one player making $25 million you can’t keep them all.
Kobe needs to take a Garnett-like pay cut if he wants to win more championships. I don’t see his ego letting him do that.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
It doesn’t matter what the fans are talking about.
All that matters is the product on the field.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
The Lakers are done.
Kobe is done.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
At least the Lakers went out with class.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Physician please heal this blog from all maladies. It’s in ICU!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
90.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
The Lakers are done.
Kobe is done.
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Lakers are done? Well I guess it depends on your definition of done….if you mean they might not be back in the finals for a few years, then maybe, but they are not perpetually done like, say, the GS Warriors lol.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Bauce,
I see you refused to breakdown the 7 winning games you touted. Given no choice, I’ll come up with a few questions for you.
1. Jags game. Was that a crucial game for our season and was it the end of the season? How did he do when he was depended upon in the final series? I dont remember him letting it go but I do remember a dump off. The same dump off he pulled the season earlier in Detroit as a Skins.
2. Even with Bush, McFadden, a decent D and spec team, JC couldnt even take us to the playoff. He had a 7-5 record and you’re jumping for joy as if he won the SB. I see how losing has lowered the bar for you.
3. Hell, I’ll break down the entire season for games that JC was involved in.
@Tenn – Goats – D and JC
SD – Heroes – D, Spec Team, and Loper
@ SF – Goat – JC
@ Den – Heroes – Oline and McFadden
Sea – Hero – D gave up 3 points.
KC – Hero – Ford
@Pitt – Goat – JC and D
@ SD – Hero – Oline and Dline
@ Jags – Goats – D and JC
Den – Marcel Reece and DMAC
Ind – Goat – Hue Jack
@KC – Hero – D
Not even one game where you can state that JC carried us. But go ahead and claim to the 7-5 record because that’s all you have.
In the words of the great Bauce….WEAK SAUCE!
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LOL see what I mean about AIG? You must not be reading comments section I see. I said I dont think JC is a QB who can carry us like the big name QBs. I admitted that already. So I dont understand what your argument is on that. I wanna know when have I ever said he was a top tier QB. You making that to be the case just because I dont stink he is garbage like you do. Big difference that you either fail or deny exists.
Even with his downfalls the offense doubled its point production with him as the starter. They looked like a very competent offense and had big games offensive wise and his accuracy doesnt suck. Something had to be right with him in at qb. You think that would just happen with any qb if he wasnt any good?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Priest, what number can I call to get a hold of front officer personnel? And which personnel? Who can I speak to, specifically?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
damn….meant to say i dont think he stinks like you do…lol
May 19th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
True, all that matters is the product on the field. Unfortunately, they haven’t been able to address that in a very long time.
In the meantime, Rod Woodson etal are making cold calls today/Out.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
It’s been a long time since someone in here has communicated with such common sense. the seguys have run every sound thinking human-being off this blog one by one. I used to have some great conversations in here about the game of football. Now it’s just rumor enuendo and contraversy. Oh! and of course conspiracy.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Didn’t Jerry say that he has heard of Raider employees reading his comment section??
I almost thought this was a known fact.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Oh well, hick.
At least you still have 2 1/2 Men to give your life meaning.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Dakota
HELLS BELLS
Bauce, keep it real. Will text you soon.
As long as Jerry Buss is alive and has plenty of Viagara, the Lakers will never be done.
Later Blog personalities, and those who have none.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
78.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Go Cubs. I was there last Wed. when the Cubs crushed STL after the rain delay. OUTSTANDING.
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Oh man, that would have been nice.
You know, I had always heard people put down Cubs fans as not being knowledgeable fo the game etc…..after sitting in Wrigley and observing the locals I can certainly see where that belief comes from. Lot of beer drinking and only half their attention on the game. I didn’t see that at the A’s, Rockies or Twins games I have been to.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
The Warriors don’t win either, yet they draw very well.
The Raiders don’t draw because the locals have zero faith in Al Davis. If you’re local, you know this.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Bauce,
You are touting his 7-5 record (about the only thing you can use for your case right now) and I just debunked everyone one of those wins with JC as being irrelevant as a major factor for us to win those games. Tell you what, you remind me if he has not been benched by the middle of the season and I will send a 12 pack of beers your way. Weak Sauce bro.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
You’d have to be insane to think Raiders employees don’t both read and comment here. I think most of you are Raider employees.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Kell, that is the truth. The Al Davis loyalty is amongst fans outside of the bay. Seems like these L.A. Raider fans are big on the whole Al thing. The bay doesn’t trust him.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Warriors have a kick-azz arena.
Raiders stadium is almost inferior to Texas HS football stadiums.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Any QB can have a bad day.
But a good NFL QB never has a day like JaJason had against SF.
EVER.
That game alone should be enough to convince anyone with eyes and a brain that JaJason sucks.
But in case it wasn’t…There was also the Ram game in which JaJason was so bad and the Raider offense so non-existent that Hue benched JaJason.
Of course, the Ram beauty immediately followed JaJason’s wonderful debut in Tenn. Talk about a deer in the headlights. JaJason was tipping the snap, taking knees and – who can forget the slide ? Great game JaJason.
And there’s still people wondering why JaJason was benched ? Bwahahaha !
Do I have to mention the Pitt game where JaJason was pissing his pants and was completely exposed for not being able to handle a blitz and hit a hot read ?
Do I have to mention the entire first half (in fact, the first 58 mins) of the KC game ? JaJason was pathetic.
Of course, the revisionist history around here is that JaJason beat out Grads.
The truth is JaJason was handed the starting job and lost it to Grads, not because of anything Grads did, but bcz JaJason sucked.
And guess why the Raids rushed a still injured Grads back against Mia…
Because even though the Raids had won a few games the coaches watched the KC and Pitt games and knew that JaJason still sucked.
JaJason stunk it up so bad at times that the coaches (and you can bet your last dollar, Al davis too) came to the conclusion that a less than 100% Gradkowski was a better option.
Here is the truth for the revisionist historians around here that maintain “JaJason beat out Gradkowski”………….
JaJason was handed the starting job. JaJason lost the starting job because he played like crap. Gradkowski got hurt. JaJason was given the starting job again due to Gradkowski injury. JaJason managed to throw in a few more stinkers against Pitt and 58 mins against KC and lost the job again. JaJason given the starting job yet again due to injury.
The Raids were reluctant to put Gradkowski on IR even after the Miami game because they know JaJason is more likely to melt down than a Japanese nuclear reactor after an earthquake.
JaJason sucks. Good guy, but he sucks.
And no, Kevin Kolb isn’t the answer. He stinks too. Any team that surrenders a first for Kolb is getting fleeced.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
I e-mailed Jerry for some clarification on this matter.
He usually responds pretty promptly.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Ask any 10 people in the Bay Area their opinion of Al Davis, and 8 will turn their nose.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Bauce,
You are touting his 7-5 record (about the only thing you can use for your case right now) and I just debunked everyone one of those wins with JC as being irrelevant as a major factor for us to win those games. Tell you what, you remind me if he has not been benched by the middle of the season and I will send a 12 pack of beers your way. Weak Sauce bro.
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How can you debunk JC in a win? LOL I’m curious of this. You going for this hero of game angle as proof of something. A QB’s hands always touch the ball.
And to his credit we didnt have a stout tough oline or good WRs. You have stated this yourself. And again no JC cant carry us on his back. Only a few teams have that in the NFL. We dont. But I feel we have a good decent qb who can manage the game while we pound the rock and work of PA fakes. Doesnt sound like a bad plan.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Any QB can have a bad day.
But a good NFL QB never has a day like JaJason had against SF.
EVER.
That game alone should be enough to convince anyone with eyes and a brain that JaJason sucks.
But in case it wasn’t…There was also the Ram game in which JaJason was so bad and the Raider offense so non-existent that Hue benched JaJason.
Of course, the Ram beauty immediately followed JaJason’s wonderful debut in Tenn. Talk about a deer in the headlights. JaJason was tipping the snap, taking knees and – who can forget the slide ? Great game JaJason.
And there’s still people wondering why JaJason was benched ? Bwahahaha !
Do I have to mention the Pitt game where JaJason was pissing his pants and was completely exposed for not being able to handle a blitz and hit a hot read ?
Do I have to mention the entire first half (in fact, the first 58 mins) of the KC game ? JaJason was pathetic.
Of course, the revisionist history around here is that JaJason beat out Grads.
The truth is JaJason was handed the starting job and lost it to Grads, not because of anything Grads did, but bcz JaJason sucked.
And guess why the Raids rushed a still injured Grads back against Mia…
Because even though the Raids had won a few games the coaches watched the KC and Pitt games and knew that JaJason still sucked.
JaJason stunk it up so bad at times that the coaches (and you can bet your last dollar, Al davis too) came to the conclusion that a less than 100% Gradkowski was a better option.
Here is the truth for the revisionist historians around here that maintain “JaJason beat out Gradkowski”………….
JaJason was handed the starting job. JaJason lost the starting job because he played like crap. Gradkowski got hurt. JaJason was given the starting job again due to Gradkowski injury. JaJason managed to throw in a few more stinkers against Pitt and 58 mins against KC and lost the job again. JaJason given the starting job yet again due to injury.
The Raids were reluctant to put Gradkowski on IR even after the Miami game because they know JaJason is more likely to melt down than a Japanese nuclear reactor after an earthquake.
JaJason sucks. Good guy, but he sucks.
And no, Kevin Kolb isn’t the answer. He stinks too. Any team that surrenders a first for Kolb is getting fleeced.
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LOL Niner woman….Be quiet now…..the way you started off that post shows how much of an idiot you are. You know not a damn thing….back to class son. Stay in the bike lane or get ran over
May 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Lakers in 6. That’s my prediction and I’m sticking with it!
May 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Ask any 10 people in the Bay Area their opinion of Al Davis, and 8 will turn their nose.
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There are more SF fans period in Norcal whether baseball or football
May 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
61.aig-raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
C’mon Hill,
Let’s not do the JC thing all over again between you and I. JC has every chance to make himself the hero in the SF game (missed a wide open Murphy on a deepball) and the Jags game from Jags’ 40 yd line and more than enough time left when it counted. He didnt get it done and in the words of Priest….PERIOD.
You’re not even confident in JC this year so not even sure why you’re making excuses for JC.
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I’m all for not doing that JC dance from last year.
I tried to tell you all along that I was not a “JC Supporter”. I rooted for him to succeed because he was our starting QB. That’s about as far as it went. I also rooted for Gardowski when he was in there because at the end of the day, I want our team to win.
I thought JC was a much better QB than Gardowski. I still do. Heck, I said earlier that I also thought Frye was a better QB that Gardowski.
With that said, our Oline and WR as groups as a whole last year were TERRIBLE. We very well may have 4 new starters on that line and that is not something that happens to even a mediocre Oline. I think we all agree on our WR talent.
My lack of confidence in the QB position this year has to do with the coaching staff’s lack of confidence in him. If they felt he was the guy, and more importantly if Al thought he was the guy, why is he not signed past this year? And Boeller as the fallback??? No effin way.
If Al and Hue are not convinced enough already to have given him an extension past this year, then it’s time to look at other possible options. I’m ready to have someone at QB who can be steady for the next 5 years or more. This merry go round of trash is getting old mayne.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
YOUR JOB AS A FKING QB IN THE NFL IS TO PLAY 60 MINUTES IN A WINNING EFFORT.
What about that don’t you guys get?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
I still think our WRs were a big part of the problem LAST YEAR. JC won’t have that excuse this year with Ford, Moore, and a healthy Chaz and Murphy. Sprinkle in a little production from DHB and we might actually have something.
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LAST YEAR, huh? Compare that group to 2009’s. Poor JR.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
An employee could mean the guy who sweeps up the place. I’m sure people in the public relations dept. are aware of it his blog because they deal with thhe media everyday it’s their job. But as far as football people scouts coaches administrators and the owner. They just don’t get the time to do it they barely know who these media people are unless they deal with them ocassionally. Jerry probably sees Amy 4-5 time a year worth talking about. he may see her often from a distance but to stop and chat hardly.
I know most of you have never been in that biulding but it’s split level the top floor is about 25,000 sq ft. They spend all their time up there and the media comes in the back of the biulding into a little room in the corner of the biulding and they are not allowed down any hallways or offices that connect to that. It’s a extremely controlled environment. They park their cars right outside that room go directly in and that’s it unless their is a PC.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dell,
Hells Bells
May 19th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Bauce enjoyed watching JaJason against the whiners.
Liked it so much, he’s looking forward to more games just like that.
Bauce isn’t just a fan….He’s a Raider !
Fraud.
Pompous ass.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Bauce,
Even Troy Smith in his limited starts had carried the Niners last year at least 1 game. When it comes to JC, you guys sure make A TON OF EXCUSES.
Hill,
Hue is NOT convinced JC is the answer but he is stuck with AD’s directive and must tow the company line aka AD Inc. No sane coach in this league thinks JC is starter material. Only 2 owners think he is starter material and each franchise has paid the price for having him around so far. For someone who claims to not be a JC supporter, you sure jumps to his defense at every opportunity. I rest my case.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
aig-raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Bauce,
I see you refused to breakdown the 7 winning games you touted. Given no choice, I’ll come up with a few questions for you.
1. Jags game. Was that a crucial game for our season and was it the end of the season? How did he do when he was depended upon in the final series?
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On that final drive, JC dropped a DIME right into the paws of DHB who would have scored, imo, if catches the pelota.
Say what you will, but like I was saying earlier, if DHB makes that catch then this is a totally different conversation. It was a deep pass, to a WR, that was simply dropped.
My argument is not that JC is good, it’s that our WRs were TERRIBLE last year.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
61.aig-raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
C’mon Hill,
Let’s not do the JC thing all over again between you and I. JC has every chance to make himself the hero in the SF game (missed a wide open Murphy on a deepball) and the Jags game from Jags’ 40 yd line and more than enough time left when it counted. He didnt get it done and in the words of Priest….PERIOD.
You’re not even confident in JC this year so not even sure why you’re making excuses for JC.
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I’m all for not doing that JC dance from last year.
I tried to tell you all along that I was not a “JC Supporter”. I rooted for him to succeed because he was our starting QB. That’s about as far as it went. I also rooted for Gardowski when he was in there because at the end of the day, I want our team to win.
I thought JC was a much better QB than Gardowski. I still do. Heck, I said earlier that I also thought Frye was a better QB that Gardowski.
With that said, our Oline and WR as groups as a whole last year were TERRIBLE. We very well may have 4 new starters on that line and that is not something that happens to even a mediocre Oline. I think we all agree on our WR talent.
My lack of confidence in the QB position this year has to do with the coaching staff’s lack of confidence in him. If they felt he was the guy, and more importantly if Al thought he was the guy, why is he not signed past this year? And Boeller as the fallback??? No effin way.
If Al and Hue are not convinced enough already to have given him an extension past this year, then it’s time to look at other possible options. I’m ready to have someone at QB who can be steady for the next 5 years or more. This merry go round of trash is getting old mayne.
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I disagree with ya to a certain extent. Sure confidence wasnt high in JC at a time but how he came back those last five games and we really played well offensively. Plus how we ended against the Chiefs was even better.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Next time you have sauteed mushrooms on your steak, remember besides being kept in the dark and fed garbage, they also get horse pee to drink…
Your welcome…lol..
May 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Bauce they understand it but they can’t say they do if they do then they actually have to acknowledge his contribution to the win. It’s easier to play stupid
May 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I namely mean Igoudala and Dwight Howard
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Sold!
Iggy would be a great wingman.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Bauce,
Even Troy Smith in his limited starts had carried the Niners last year at least 1 game. When it comes to JC, you guys sure make A TON OF EXCUSES.
Hill,
Hue is NOT convinced JC is the answer but he is stuck with AD’s directive and must tow the company line aka AD Inc. No sane coach in this league thinks JC is starter material. Only 2 owners think he is starter material and each franchise has paid the price for having him around so far. For someone who claims to not be a JC supporter, you sure jumps to his defense at every opportunity. I rest my case.
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LOL wait hold on….exactly what price did a 5-11 team from 2009 pay for a QB who helped them get to 8-8 in only 12 games?
What excuse am I making? I dont see what you are getting at. You keep confusing the fact that I dont think he stinks as a qb while you do. But for some strange reason you believe I think he is a great. This is amazing. I think your hate has you so blinded to something staring you in the face…..its bad
May 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
J Hill Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I namely mean Igoudala and Dwight Howard
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Sold!
Iggy would be a great wingman.
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I’m a laker hater but I’m a realist. That’s how Lakers come back next year if the GM has a sack
May 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
LMAO at JC dropping a dime in Jax. His best ‘pass’ that day was a 2 foot lateral to DMAC.
Seriously, besides the two passes to Ford against KC…can anyone here name a JC completion that traveled more than 20 yards in the air ?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
We should have kept Ariza, Farmar and Turiaf, but when you have one player making $25 million you can’t keep them all.
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Ariza was a FA and didn’t accept our offer. Took the exact same deal with Houston though.
Farmar didn’t want to come back and play behind a scrub like D Fisher. He’d rather come off the bench for a team like NJ. Go figure.
Turiaf???? No way we were going to give a backup PF the $ GS paid him as a FA.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Bauce they understand it but they can’t say they do if they do then they actually have to acknowledge his contribution to the win. It’s easier to play stupid
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For all the shhht Dilfer gets….you know what? He has led team some decent teams then he won a SB not being spectacular. I dont care about the greatest defense alive stuff…..if Dilfer sucks the Ravens dont have a title. They were dumb to even get rid of him in the first place. They never got back to a super bowl over a decade later. So much for a qb who is under center during wins
May 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
On that final drive, JC dropped a DIME right into the paws of DHB who would have scored, imo, if catches the pelota.
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Problemo numero uno is throwing the pinche pelota to DHB!!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Jhill are you talking about the pass he threw to DHB in the Jax game. If so I agree it was beautifully thrown under duress in a clutch situation and DHB was clusless. If that had been Randy Moss we win easily.
But that speaks to my point about this offense coming back this year same OC WR’s with another year under their belt. If that is DMoore that pass is caught and maybe a score. I couldn’t believe how poorly DHB responded in that situation the ball went right through his arms.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
the coaches (and you can bet your last dollar, Al davis too) came to the conclusion that a less than 100% Gradkowski was a better option.
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I don’t believe Al Davis signed off on Gardowski.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Oh, ok, priest. You said “front office personnel” at first. But I guess that includes the janitor. Sure, preist. I’ll contact him and take advantage of the Raiders’ open door policy with fans!
May 19th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Atleast Wylie isnt some unknown HS Coach like our WR coach.
Love the Mushroom reference.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
So who is the replacement for Bruce?
We brought in guys to replace Satele, Gallery and Nnamdi.
But no replacements for Bruce and Huffy as of yet.
May 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
On that final drive, JC dropped a DIME right into the paws of DHB who would have scored, imo, if catches the pelota.
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Problemo numero uno is throwing the pinche pelota to DHB!!!!
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Why was he on the field?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Anyhow it was fun guys…..I’m outta here
May 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I don’t believe Al Davis signed off on Gardowski.
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So you think Cable and Hue started Grads against Mia without Davis’ acquiescence ?
May 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
For someone who claims to not be a JC supporter, you sure jumps to his defense at every opportunity. I rest my case.
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LOL.
Ok, I guess we are still dancing.
I’ve been saying all day that we need to trade for a new QB.
But the fact that I thought our WRs and Oline have been TERRIBLE the past 3 years or so makes me a JC Supporter?
LMFAO!
It’s ok, I was called a J Russell supporter for bashing the Oline and WRs.
I wonder why no one has called me a Charlie Frye supporter yet?
May 19th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I want a QB that we can build on and take us to the next level. Not some reject QB that is all the sudden great because Al Davis says so. Why are you backtracking now Bauce? Are you on record to state that JC is good enough to lead this team into the playoffs? yes or no pls.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Why was he on the field?
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Ask Hue.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
LMAO at JC dropping a dime in Jax. His best ‘pass’ that day was a 2 foot lateral to DMAC.
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I’m not sure how you missed that pass to DHB on the final drive.
What ever you want to say about what type of game he had, if DHB catches that pass, we win the game.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Mr Davis told Cable “you’re the coach” Cable took that as meaning yeah I like him too. Mr Davis’ mind was made up then, this guy is history……………..period
May 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
aig-raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I want a QB that we can build on and take us to the next level.
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I agree with this.
I think the approach we are taking is one of building around JC. Our Oline was addressed, and our WR situation should be much improved this year. Bush and McFadden will be the focal point, not the QB.
The QB position has some bullets in the chamber for the first time in a long while.
JC is the Derrick Fisher of our team. DMac is Kobe, if you will.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Hill,
You’re never going to commit to anything on here. That’s your MO. You will always leave a little room to wiggle your way out. You know why Bruce’s supporter hardly ever used the “lousy WR” excuse? It’s because he was able to get 300 yds off those same lousy WR’s. That’s why I laugh at the lousy WR excuse.
oh btw, JC had a probowl TE, probowl WR, probowl FB, probowl RB, and All pro LT. How did he do with those talents? 16.6 points per game.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I want a QB that we can build on and take us to the next level. Not some reject QB that is all the sudden great because Al Davis says so. Why are you backtracking now Bauce? Are you on record to state that JC is good enough to lead this team into the playoffs? yes or no pls.
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AIG….of course I do…I’ve seen worse qbs do it……He isnt an all pro QB….no shhht Sherlock…who said he was?
You arent getting a QB in draft right now to build around and wait to be good in 3-4 years.
Anyways…be cool. I’ll be glad to go over this again with ya. Maybe you will get it
May 19th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Bauce,
Is JC taking us to the Playoffs this year? YES or NO.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
What’s up AIG???
You stiffed me man, lol!!!
I sent you an e-mail, no dice on a response apparently.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
140.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I don’t believe Al Davis signed off on Gardowski.
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So you think Cable and Hue started Grads against Mia without Davis’ acquiescence ?
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I think Davis gave the coaches the ok to go with who they wanted.
But it makes zero sense to sit here and tell me that Al Davis thinks Gardowski is a better QB than Campbell when Campbell is the one still here and the declared starter. If Davis liked Gardowski then, why doesn’t he like him now?
May 19th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Pls dont insult Derek Fisher. He made crucial 3 pointers when counted up on. Let’s not even start with JC and anything “crucial” attached to it.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
You will always leave a little room to wiggle your way out.
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That’s why he is J-Wigg
May 19th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
JFB,
never got any email from you man. Thought you didnt want to connect for golf. Thinking you were stiffing me. too funny. Let me check again.
jm95054@gmail.com
May 19th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
no email jfb. shoot me another one bro. 8/23 is coming up fast. I almost changed my plans thinking no golf in ABQ. Was going to bring the wife and kid along….hahahah
May 19th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
J Hill, I’m not going to accuse you of being a JC supporter or a JaMoron supporter.
But I know why some people do.
You’re a little too quick to blame the poor supporting cast for JC’s failures and did the same thing with JaMoron.
Case in point: the interception JaJason threw near the end of the first half in the first KC game.
I remember you saying you weren’t sure if it was JC’s fault or the rcvrs fault even after watching the tape.
IMO that was clearly a terrible decision and pass, but you didn’t see it that way.
Still scratching my head over that one.
Having a poor supporting cast only goes so far in explaining JaMoron’s and JC’s often spectacularly bad play.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Just fired off a quick e-mail…..
May 19th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
You’re never going to commit to anything on here. That’s your MO. You will always leave a little room to wiggle your way out.
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Here we go.
I’m very committed to my arguments of …
the right side of the Oline being trash
Same with we don’t have an issue at DT, or the Dline for that matter
Our WRs have been TERRIBLE for years
Morrison was a problem at MLB
Huff is our 2nd best DB behind Nnamdi
We need a FB
The Lakers will always smack the Ws around
JC is better than Gardowski
I commit to plenty mayne. You just see what you want.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Gotta run though………
May 19th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Got it JFB, check your spam if you dont see it. Later boys. Gotta hit the gym.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
If Davis liked Gardowski then, why doesn’t he like him now?
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Al clearly stated in his presser that he thinks Grads can play but he can’t stay healthy.
I’m thinking Al is still looking to bring in a veteran backup, if he can’t find one he’s comfortable with, I wouldn’t rule out Gradkowski being re-upped.
And guess what ?
If that happens, Gardkowski (as you call him) will eventually surplant JaJason AGAIN.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Case in point: the interception JaJason threw near the end of the first half in the first KC game.
I remember you saying you weren’t sure if it was JC’s fault or the rcvrs fault even after watching the tape.
IMO that was clearly a terrible decision and pass, but you didn’t see it that way.
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I don’t recall that, but I’ll take your word for it.
Let me just say that it’s probably as simple as my disdain for the WRs is equal to how you feel about JC.
I’ll admit I tend to smh at the WRs more than the QB. I’d say that is because week in and week out, I see WRs for other teams making plays on balls that our guys just don’t make. Balls that are in the area are pulled in regularly. Our QB has to be “perfect” for the guys we had in last year to be effective.
Our QBs are FAR from perfect, and I don’t see one coming here anytime soon. Our WRs need to step their game up!
May 19th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
If you would rather hang out with some dude you never met from a blog instead of your wife and kid….
time for a divorce.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
So Al Davis doesn’t even think Gardowski can stay healthy enough to be the #2 guy?
I mean, completely off the team????
I wouldn’t doubt that vet QB options are being looked at for the #3 spot. We do need 3 QBs on the roster. But I think that job goes to Frye.
And the Gardowski reference is actually what our announcers called him all game in the preseason against SF.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Is it certain Gradkowski won’t be back ?
What was he tendered at previously ? I believe it was a 2nd and a 3rd. Not entirely sure. But if so, that’s more than JaJason cost us.
I don’t know for sure what Davis’ thinking on Gradkowski is. All I can go by is what he said in his press conference. ‘He can play but he can’t stay on the field.’
May 19th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Al Davis also said that JC can be as good as Plunkett.
I’m not going off of what Al Davis thinks at all. I think Campbell is an average QB who can play above average at time and below avg on others.
Nothing special at all, but CLEARLY the best we’ve had around here in quite some time. I think that speaks more to what we’ve had around here for some time than JC being some elite QB option.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Gradkowski put himself on the bench and out of the league. Hue told the kid to protect himself…and he goes out there taking on safeties etc….
Like Schilens is proving, injured players are of very little use to the team
May 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
I asked earlier if anyone could name a JaJason completion that traveled more than 20 yards in the air.
I’m sure there had to be a few, right ?
I just can’t remember them.
I mean it’s not possible that he didn’t have the time or the rcvr dropped every one of those passes, is it ?
I’d be willing to bet that if they kept a stat detailing the average length of pass completed (not counting YAC) JaJason would rank at the bottom or very near the bottom.
May 19th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Gardowski biggest problem was what a lot of you are asking for. He forced the ball to the WRs.
The Az game, he was determined to get DHB involved. And it was to the detriment of the team. There was a drive at the end of the game where he kept throwing to DHB on the goal line AND bothced a QB sneak on the goal line by getting a delay of game penalty.
The Houston game, he looked great for the most part, except on plays like right before the half, he is trying to wait on a WR to get open deep and takes a sack/fumble.
Maybe he was doing what he was directed to, but it was TERRIBLE!
May 19th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Charlie Frye doesn’t even have the arm Gradkowski did.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
JC rarely went deep to WRs.
I don’t think anyone is disputing that fact.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Having a strong arm isn’t just for Deep balls. Slow speed balls get jumped.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
I think it’s got to be Boller, or get a Vet when the League returns to business.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
The Az game, he was determined to get DHB involved.
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Eventually he succeeded.
It was the bomb attempt up the left sideline to DHB that drew a PI flag and put the Raids in position to win. Looked like a certain win until Jani….ughhh.
Watch that play again. DHB is loafing at the start of the go route. He’s running 3/4 speed til he gets almost adjacent with the DB. Then he turns on the jets. DB knows he’s going to get dusted and starts arm barring and mugging DHB. Grad’s pass travels 50+ yards in the air and lands perfectly inside the sideline exactly where DHB would have been had he not been loafing earlier in the route.
Not that DHB would have caught it anyway, but before he busted his shoulder against Houston, Grads had more than adequate arm strength, and his accuracy was underrated too.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
The Az game, he was determined to get DHB involved.
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Eventually he succeeded.
It was the bomb attempt up the left sideline to DHB that drew a PI flag and put the Raids in position to win. Looked like a certain win until Jani….ughhh.
Watch that play again. DHB is loafing at the start of the go route. He’s running 3/4 speed til he gets almost adjacent with the DB. Then he turns on the jets. DB knows he’s going to get dusted and starts arm barring and mugging DHB. Grad’s pass travels 50+ yards in the air and lands perfectly inside the sideline exactly where DHB would have been had he not been loafing earlier in the route.
Not that DHB would have caught it anyway, but before he busted his shoulder against Houston, Grads had more than adequate arm strength, and his accuracy was underrated too.
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LMAO!!!!!!! somethings never change
Gradkowski never has been accurate in his entire career!!!
20 tds 23 ints, not accurate.
In 2009 he posted his highest ever comleteion percentage 54.7 …(yuck!!!) and qb rating 80.6 ouch.
Sorry it doesnt fly
May 19th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
but before he busted his shoulder against Houston, Grads had more than adequate arm strength,
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Never.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
One of Wylie’s marching orders will be to develop Bruce Campbell, the 2010 combine phenom who never saw the field as a rookie except on special teams. Campbell played exclusively at right guard in practice.
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This is incorrect.
Campbell saw limted field time but did see a few snaps during actual games. He looked…inconsistent especially in protection. Looked good on one play pulling from RG and terrorizing a LB closing on the left side.
He wasn’t ready last yr and may not be this year for maybe 5 games or even more. Maybe on a rotational basis.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
176. Grads pulled a few miracles out of his azz but NEVER had a good arm, couldn’t consosntently read defenses and was always injured.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Rewatching the Miami game.
Our Oline was not good at all.
Especially the right side and the FB.
May 19th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
On that final drive, JC dropped a DIME right into the paws of DHB who would have scored, imo, if catches the pelota.
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Problemo numero uno is throwing the pinche pelota to DHB!!!!
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LMFAO!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
It’s been a long time since someone in here has communicated with such common sense. the seguys have run every sound thinking human-being off this blog one by one. I used to have some great conversations in here about the game of football. Now it’s just rumor enuendo and contraversy. Oh! and of course conspiracy.
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It does get ridiculous in here sometimes, but it is the offseason – a locked out offseason. I dont read the comments on here half the time before the draft & training camp because all they do is talk politics & argue like b1+@4$, lol. We don’t even have official minicamps to discuss. The most exciting thing going on in Raider Nation is a player-led “minicamp”. I must admit I am excited about it – not because how much we will improve as a team but the leadership roles being assumed by JC & Big Rich are such a breath of fresh air. It’s great for the rookies & other young guys to see true leadership, not to mention the brotherhood/pride they develop this coming weekend can go a long way. FYI, Chekwa is on the record as going along w/ Tawain Jones – anybody hear of any other rookies supposed to be going? It’d be nice if Lil Wiz went to start on that C-QB exchange…
May 19th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
10 min left in the 2nd qtr and DMAC has run for -6 yds.
Miami’s Dline is having their way with our Oline.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Rewatching the Miami game.
Our Oline was not good at all.
Especially the right side and the FB.
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That’s an understatement.
Can remember one DMAC run to the right where he was stonewalled by multiple defenders…3 yards behind the LOS.
Nothing there all day.
Some other really piss poor play that day.
W. Mcfadden getting beat like a pinata.
Gradkowski’s head up his sphincter, hesitating to throw to a wide open Ford racing up the right sideline and finally throwing a helium ball that was picked in the end zone.
Worst effort of the season at home, by far. Huge disappointment that day.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
I think the Miami game is the one that cemented Cable’s firing.
LOL at the Wildcat handoff to Reece that he fumbled.
Why is Bush not in there?
May 19th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Another GLARING hole is the lack of natural pressure from the Dline against the pass.
Also not very creative with the blitzing, or we are just really bad at it because half way through the 2nd qtr, we are blitizing and not getting anywhere near Henne.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Nice TD pass to Ford Gardowski!
Very nice!
May 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
W. Mcfadden getting beat like a pinata.
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Nnamdi hasn’t been much better. Getting beat by Bess on a few 3rd downs, and the holding penalty when we had them 2nd and long deep in their own territory.
I realize it was his first game back from injury.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
i cannot believe the same guys are in here pleading garbages, i’m sorry that’s rude… case.
May 19th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
grads was a good backup as i said he may have been one of the better backups in the league. but man move on…
May 19th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Jhill the QB yoyoing the Oline never getting fixed and the use of Mike Bush was the last shoe to drop. Cable never used Bush like he should’ve and he knows that. Mr Davis prior to last season made it clear he wanted to go with more power. Well our genius coach didn’t get the memo. Rarely played him after the injury. Another thing not at least givng Big Bruce Campbell some playing time was downright STUPID. No one can tell me he couldn’t have helped us when Gallery went down.
How do you ignore those two athletes Campbell and Bush why do you think the owner drafted them? for window dressing??
May 19th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Bruce Campbell should be a fullback or a tight end.
He won’t make it as a guard.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Says who??
May 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Ask any 10 people in the Bay Area their opinion of Al Davis, and 8 will turn their nose.
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True. Whenever I go to a Warrior/Raider or A’s game and hang at West Side clubs or the club area in the Arena. Old man Al gets brought up and everyone gets pissed off.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
It’s been a long time since someone in here has communicated with such common sense. the seguys have run every sound thinking human-being off this blog one by one. I used to have some great conversations in here about the game of football. Now it’s just rumor enuendo and contraversy. Oh! and of course conspiracy.
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Air America, WaterGate, THE MAFIA, Iran-Contra, The Glomar Explorer, Clintongate. Maybe, just maybe some of these other conspiracies are TRUE too. Have the courage to seek knowlege using a quantification from as many varied sources as possible. Harder to do now that illegal media monopolies own over 90% of ALL American media. Bet you didn’t know that either…
People use fear as an excuse to embrace the dark.
And we all reap the bitter harvest.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Any Raider fan who actually CARES about winning and having a respected team to root for does not like Al Davis. He has lost his right mind and is severly dillusional.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Most of those getting pissed off have no clus why, all they know is what they heard.
KNBR has done a great job over the years of making Mr Davis a villian. Tell people something enough times they’ll believe anything. People still think black people can’t play QB….
May 19th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Nnamdi hasn’t been much better. Getting beat by Bess on a few 3rd downs, and the holding penalty when we had them 2nd and long deep in their own territory.
I realize it was his first game back from injury.
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Huh ? That was the game Nnamdi got injured.
It was Grad’s return from injury, and he still wasn’t ready. Barely touched on last play of game and shoulder falls apart.
Don’t recall Nnamdi being hurt before the Mia game.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
He got hurt in the Seahawks game
May 19th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
His game fell apart first….
May 19th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
193. Isn’t the exact same way it is for the Raiders?!
Few football fans are indifferent when you tell them you’re a Raider fan.
Love or hate.
Same with Al becauee face it, he IS the Raiders.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Priest,
I dont need ANYBODY to tell me what anyone can plainly see….Al Davis has lost his right mind. This can obvioulsy be attributed to age, which as I have said before, happens to us all and there is no shame in it.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
I think jhill was right thee miami game was it for cable,when he went behind everyone and benched campell.i think hugh took the fall for the first benching,because if he felt that way about campell al would have not hired him.those six checks cable got docked would start at the miami game.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
How would you know when you have no mind at all…..
May 19th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Al Davis is NOT the Raiders. He is a shell of his former self and if he cared more about his team than he does his ego, he would have handed over the reigns years ago. FACT
May 19th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Well crafted Priest. All due applause for your brilliance…..Truth hurts dont it chum. Your god is no god at all is he now.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Fool!!!
May 19th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Why bring race into it?
It’s weak. Means you feel you can’t win your argument.
Do you actually follow the Raiders?
You really need someone to detail what Al has done?
KNBR?
Most Raider fans aren’t in ear shot of KNBR.
And being voted as one of the worst owners in sports was voted by those also not in earshot of KNBR.
Al’s done a very good job of shooting himself in the foot, while proudly claiming he took the shot.
You should read up on the Raiders, instead of wallowing in your pathetic race obsession.
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priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Most of those getting pissed off have no clus why, all they know is what they heard.
KNBR has done a great job over the years of making Mr Davis a villian. Tell people something enough times they’ll believe anything. People still think black people can’t play QB….
May 19th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
197. Wasn’t Nnamdi injured with 10 mins left in the Seattle blow out.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
The Miami game lose ended our season if we win that game I don’t think we lose again.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Another great retort from a brilliant man….Priest, I know it hurts you to face the facts about Al, but facts are facts. The former great leader has succumbed to father time. Why is that so hard for you to get?
May 19th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
DaveB save it son…argue with this other guy Dan land, MR, Horacio Gonsales or whatever other name he comes up with.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Priest,
When is the last time an Al Davis led team had a winning record???
May 19th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
The day the Raiders become legitimate again will be the day Al Davis dies. I for one am looking forward to that day.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Was it Seahawk game ?
Must be getting senile. Stand corrected.
Thanks guys.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Al was on a major cold streak no doubt….but hes back. Firing cable and hiring hu jack, the last 3 drafts have brought in major quality. The new coaching regime with old riader players coaching the postions they played under the dc they played for, al suanders, there is a master plan at work.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Got beat by Miami scrubs. 2nde and 3rd string. It was a demoralizing loss.
Our secondary was beyond suspect and a possible preview of 2011 WITHOUT Nnamdi…oooOOOOOWWWEEEEOOOooo!
May 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Cuz Rod Woodson and Wiz are such well respected COACHES…..Al Davis has f’d up sooooo many draft pick he is and was bound to get one or two right. Hes still a bad drafter….Russell? DHB? Mike Mitchell???
May 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
We also played without Nnamdi vs KC and bodyslammed them. So maybe we got better.
Mistic1 don’t waste your time with Horacio, kid has a split personality.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Most of those getting pissed off have no clus why, all they know is what they heard.
KNBR has done a great job over the years of making Mr Davis a villian. Tell people something enough times they’ll believe anything. People still think black people can’t play QB….
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“Tell people something enough times they’ll believe anything.”
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Like, “We just got Osama!”
May 19th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Sure Horacio and what color is the sky?
May 19th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Trade DMAC for Horacio Gonsales!
May 19th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Al suanders is one of the most highly respcted coaches in football at any level. Rod woodson is a hall of fame plauer that many teams would open up there doors to in order to have him in some capacity if not coaching dbs’. These guys are more than happy to coach for Al. Wiz also fits into this list as he was already on the coaching path and decided to come here. the perception that that the meida gives and that is projected on this blog simply does not mesh with reality. there are still plenty fo people that want to work here.
May 19th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Off topic, but this shows the weakness and ignorance of the typical 49er fan:
http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/5/19/2180171/49ers-stadium-issues-oakland-raiders-fans-versus-san-francisco-49ers
May 19th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
What’s to say, priesttj?
You made a ridiculous comment.
I corrected you.
I assume this is your way of saying “you are right”?
In that case, we agree.
Next time just nod.
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priesttj Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
DaveB save it son…argue with this other guy Dan land, MR, Horacio Gonsales or whatever other name he comes up with.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Shaugnessy, mitchell, houston, mclain, ford, veldheer, here are afew names from our last few drafts. guess what they all contribute in a major way to our team. By the way al also drafted namdi he is only the most soaught after free agent in football. I guess al knows talent, even if you dont.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Mistic1 these guys just liek being ridiculous the facts are obvious if you chose to see them for what they are.
It’s easy to just drag out the same old mantra thse Al Davis haters do. And ignore evidence to the contrary.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Oh, I get it now, priesttj.
Was me calling you on your racist comment that ruffled ya?
Now I get it.
You are one of those closet racist, who loves bringing up race, while telling all how much you hate those who bring up race?
There’s a word for that.
Called hypocrite.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Priest,
What are the FACTS to the contrary?? Look forward to the answer..
May 19th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Priest,
1) Winning seasons in last 10 years?
2) Number of coaches?
3) Number of blown draft picks?
4) Number of wasted FA signings?
If you have an ounce of integrity youll asnwer these questions
May 19th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
priest, and you’re not dragging out the “Al is great” mantra?
May 19th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
We differ on what the term “contribute in a major way to our team” means. Big time.
and yeah, Al drafted Nnamdi.
He also drafted JR.
He also drafted DHB
Oh yeah, Al knows players, lol.
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Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Shaugnessy, mitchell, houston, mclain, ford, veldheer, here are afew names from our last few drafts. guess what they all contribute in a major way to our team. By the way al also drafted namdi he is only the most soaught after free agent in football. I guess al knows talent, even if you dont.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Al Saunders is one of the most highly respected coaches at any level? You’d have to think he’d be a head coach somewhere if that were the case, Mistic.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
You have to have a good system, good coaches, and good players. Al does not have a good system. Huge question mark where coaching is concerned. As far as players go, I’d say Al gets it right about 10% of the time. Nnamdi is part of that 10%.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Hey, Al’s screwed up big time.
Can’t keep whiffing on top draft picks like JaMoron, Gallery, Huff etc. Have to hit on those top 10 picks.
Can’t make trades like the one for Deangelo.
Can’t sign free agents like Javon Walker.
Raids have paid the price, and paid heavily for these mistakes.
Davis has faltered, the Raids got staggered and knocked down.
Some fans have thrown in the towel.
But other fans know the fight aint over.
Gonna make the return to glory that much sweeter.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Because he is not a Head coach doesnt mean he is not respected…
Some guys just make better OCO’s and DCO’s as opposed to a HC….
Dick Lebeau comes to mind…
May 19th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Raiderman,
All those facts you posted dont make you even think the old man is done??
May 19th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Dan Land Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Cuz Rod Woodson and Wiz are such well respected COACHES…..
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Fishing troll? Woods”o”n has never coached
May 19th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Raiderman, who’s thrown in the towel? Could you be any more dramatic? If you don’t support Al 100%, you’re throwing in the towel? How stupid.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Im not the one who said they were such great additions to the staff…numb nut
May 19th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I hate Al Davis, hes an embarrasment, but the Raiders have always and will always be my club.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Raiderman, next you’re going to do the whole, “Everything in the world is Al’s fault, every earthquake, Al’s fault” routine, right? That guilt trip? That usually follows the “well, some fans have thrown in the towel, but not me” routine.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
The only one who’s thrown in the towel is Al Davis. Our roster is already a downgrade from last year. Nice way to capitalize on your best season in 7 years.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Al Davis will be missed by many the day he dies…I will be one of them and most in here.
I’m just hoping Jr. hires a GM when the day comes.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
No, they don’t.
Gotta admit they make me wonder.
But like I said, I haven’t thrown the towel in on Davis.
Can’t do it.
Won’t do it.
Davis is one of the reasons I’m a Raider fan.
As bad as Davis has screwed up in recent years, there’s still the burning desire to win. Al shells out the big bucks, the Raids always have one of the top payrolls in the NFL.
I can understand the younger Raid fans being disgusted, they didn’t experience the great years. And they were great.
But I’m an old timer and old school.
I want the Raids to ascend to the top of the NFL again, and I’m willing to give Davis the chance to get them there again.
No way I root for the old man to die. That’s uncalled for and ghoulish.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Most in here? I don’t know. Didn’t Jerry run a poll a few years back on how many fans want Al gone? Didn’t something like 80% vote yes?
May 19th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Raiderman, why does that make you better than us? Having not thrown out the towel on Al Davis? Why are you a better fan than fans who have thrown out the towel on Al Davis? Who want a better GM? How?
May 19th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Dan Land. How iskc is it that you troll under fake names so you can make the same stinking argument over and over and over and over.
GROSS.
Get a life RMR, Brownnose what ever you are.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Whet truly amazes me is that everyone, including Jerry, has the Wiz at center? He has publicly stated he does NOT want to play center. Satele at Center, Wiz at LG,. and this makes more sense than the people in here are getting. Let this play out, and not jump to conclusions…
May 19th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
241.Dan Land Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I hate Al Davis, hes an embarrasment, but the Raiders have always and will always be my club.
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You’re an idiot as always “Dan Land” former L.A. Raider current dou-che bag.
Davis’ 3 Superbowls make him an embarrassment. I’m sure h’s real sad you think that RMR.
May 19th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Ive never been any other name on this site…are you foolish enough to believe only one person feels like I do?
May 19th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
When was his last Super Bowl? Of course you wont answer….just thought id ask
May 19th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Davis never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf did win one without Al Davis, though. That’s got to sting.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
MR, Raiders kneel to no one. Get over it!
May 19th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
What is that supposed to mean? They don’t “kneel” to anyone?
May 19th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Raiders bleed black, win or lose. We have the Raiders as we know them, thanks to Al Davis. Get over that! If you can’t get over that, pick a new team. I’ve been with this team, win or lose, since 1964, Heidi or Tuck, it’s going against us, we are man enough to take it, don’t have to like it, but Raiders man up! MR, become a Raider and man up, or shut up! It’s getting too old!
May 19th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Some fans have thrown in the towel.
But other fans know the fight aint over.
Gonna make the return to glory that much sweeter.
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I think it’s safe to say that most Raider fans have a breaking point with Al. I used to love Al and his me vs the world attitude. However, it has been hard defending him and his horrible roster management since 2003. When I was in Al’s corner, I used to laugh at his crazy stuff. Now I find his antics quite irritating at times. He should have taken Javon’s offer to return the money to him, and he doesnt need to get so dirty in pressers either. I wished Al would take the high road and save his legacy. I’d like to see him go out with a bang but I’m not optimistic.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
I see Horacio Gonsales is still in here changing identities at a feverish pace. wasting everyones time…
May 19th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
I’m changing his name as is his m.o.from Horacio Gonsales to Horacio Hornblower because it becomes his personality. Blowing hot air from dusk til dawn.
May 19th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Aig, I still hold the towel high, the old fox aint done yet, we have a very good young team, that will gel, with some strong leaders, we will get through this, so long as we blitz!
May 19th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Just checked in,junk being posted by mrs,mr,dan land ,raider,etc,surprised paine hasnt posted yet,ALL the same MORON,mr,cant you just forget to post for a WEEK or more?
May 19th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Why should it sting that Ron Wolf won a SB without Al Davis?
Anyhow, glade that wasn’t you on the Bike the other day.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Priest, MR is a mod. who has to be in here to drive up hits to sell to advertisers. That is why he is here. You will see my post disappear after this posting. Do not give him credit, he does not know of what he talks..
May 19th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
860,
We all have that hunger for a winning season. I’m pretty stoked about our young team as well. All I want for next year is a stronger D and better Oline. We’re a playoff team if our D and Olines can bully people. It’s as simple as that.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Todd I’ve wondered about that many times because he always has abilities very few others have. Also even when wordpress is screwed up he seems to never get frustrated like everyone else.
No one in their right mind which is taking a lot for granted no one in their right mind would spend the time he spends in here repeating the same garbage over and over again. What’s his objective? no one agrees with him and he never talks football he just disparages Al Davis adnauseum. What exactly is his objective?
So your conclusion makes as much or more sense than anything I’ve come up with.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
252.RAIDER Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Davis never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf did win one without Al Davis, though. That’s got to sting.
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…So what. Why would that sting? Nobody but you even cares about that. When Al Davis dies and they talk about his legacy you won’t even hear a peep about Ron Wolf and what your twisted mind thinks his contribution was. Nobody cares but an obsessive freak like you.
What other pointless wierd trivia have you pulled from obscure sports facts paperbacks?
Just get over the fact that you are a piece of garbage compared to Al Davis. Nobody knows you. Nobody cares about you, and I’ll bet nobody loves you either. Not even the first cousin of yours you have the hots for. The world is a worse place because you are in it. Nobody likes you here on this blog. There is nothing to like about you. You have an ugly personality and are one of those people who show up someplace and people cringe because of your presence and look for the nearest exit. Not because they fear matching wits with you on some bizarre factoid that nobody cares about, but just because you are such an unsavory lamer to be around.
Ron Wolf was a great GM. A lot of owners who have won SB’s have had great GM’s. So what.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
MR is mentally ill.
May 19th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
252.RAIDER Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Davis never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf. Ron Wolf did win one without Al Davis, though. That’s got to sting.
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Ha. Here is what Ron Wolf HIMSELF said in regard to Al Davis in a story in the LA Times:
“Everything I know about this game is directly attributable to what I learned working with Al Davis,” says Wolf, 58, the general manager of the Packers and the man who traded for Brett Favre and signed Reggie White. “I still think when it comes to every facet of the game of football, he’s the best there is in the National Football League.”
Wolf continues:
“Al Davis took the time to train me,” Wolf says in declining to take a bow. “I was very fortunate to have that opportunity.”
Now THAT has got to sting. Chew on that Scott.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
To say that MR us here to “drive up hits” is playing into his delusions of grandeur.
MR has garden variety mental problems.
Anti social personality with a side of OCD.
If he had someone in his life to help him with his MEDS he would probably pass as a normal human being.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Fair enough, Gerard. But allow me to restate my point again, because it’s an indisputable fact.
Al Davis has never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf, and Ron Wolf HAS won a Super Bowl without Al Davis. None of Ron Wolf’s recorded lip service for his old boss is going to change that.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Todd, Raiders “bleed black, win or lose”? WTF are you talking about?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
266.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
MR is mentally ill.
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I know. It’s obvious. They probably allow him internet rights at the asylum as long as he stays off the incest sites he frequented before they admitted him.
Don’t fool yourself Scotty, your first cousin only sees you for the insane pos you are.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
When Al Davis dies we won’t hear a peep about Ron Wolf? Well, I for one will at least see what I can do to change that. You know that much.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Good luck with that.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Horacio Hornblower is back to blowing smoke. No one cares Hornblower get that through your pea brain. Al Davis is the owner and their is all the evidence anyone needs to know about Ron Wolfe and Bruce Allen has echoed those same type of sentiments concerning Big Al. Jon Gruden has also done so.
Jon won one without him too but he still holds mR Davis in high regard.. That’s what life is all about. Respect as long as the people who count respect you you have done just fine.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Wow. I’m a mod, and I’m in a mental facility. Now, I must be one good mod, one seriously skilled IBA employee, if I’m allowed to not only stay with the company after being sent to the nut house, but allowed to work from there as well! Your guys’ detective skills are just astounding. Just astounding. And, I think Dirty Racoon has me narrowed down to 5,000 people, now, thanks to the ip locator he bought at wal mart while chained to one of his 3 baby’s mamas! Poor guy’s going to get his ass kicked several times and probably spend a few nights in the clink trying to find me, and then get knocked into the middle of the next century when he finally does. But oh well. It’s a worthwhile crusade. After all, Al Davis’s honor is at stake. Uh, think I can hear another one of his kids crying in the background. Anyway, you guys just keep reaching for the stars though. It’s a hoot to read.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
priest, I believe Ron Wolf holds Al Davis in high regard. Why shouldn’t he? Al gave him his first NFL gig. But it’s also an indisputable fact that Al Davis has never won a Super Bowl without Wolf, while Wolf HAS won a SB without Al. So, that should add some perspective to the theory that Al Davis is some kind of genius for winning 3 super bowls a lifetime ago. He clearly couldn’t do it without Ron Wolf’s help.
May 19th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
I can see why you failed as a screen writer.
MR, what is your favorite movie?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I do believe you like being in these situations because no one in their right mind would do this to the degree you without some real deep issues.
Everyone knows what you think……that’s all that ever comes out of that pea brain of yours. Go outside and make a friend a new aquaintance go to a club. Do something besides bother people in a blog. My God man don’t you see how utterly sad that is?
May 19th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Hornblower who cares man go outside and play and forget about Al Davis for a week discover something besides your keyboard.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Raiders finally showed improvement last year, played more like a team for the first time in 7 yrs so Al guts the team, puts the secondary in peril and rebuilds the O line.
Nothings a lock for 2011. Nothing. Not even improvement.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Exactly what I’ve been saying, Nnamdi. We’ve already downgraded the roster overall. Went from one question mark to another with the HC position. The overall system? Let’s face it. It’s been a joke since Gruden left. So far, at least on paper, the 2011 Oakland Raiders are worse than the 2010 Oakland Raiders. That’s no way to capitalize on your best season in 7 years.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:49 am
19.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
The Raider front office not only read this blog, but post on this blog.
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Al’s past comments have clearly shown that he reads Jerry’s column.
Whether his gaze wanders down to the comments is anyone’s guess but he’d have to be something of a masochist.
Do Al’s hirelings post on this blog?
Of course they do.
Especially at this time of the year when they’re driving to drive up that miserably small number of season ticket holders.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:59 am
Jerry,you didn’t mention the rookie Barksdale.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:43 am
I saw a lot of posts here back and forth about Jason Campbell at fault vs. the wide receivers.
Here’s what I can say:
In Jason, we have an average QB. He’s not above middle-of-the-pack. He has had the “deer in the headlights” occur, and has locked onto receivers. He has also made some good plays. He’s had receivers save his arse (like Ford snatching interceptions away from the defenders on 2 seperate times) and had receivers screw him over (like DHB on more than one occasion).
In general, I think he should get better his 2nd year. Not saying he’s going to be great. The offense only ran when the RBs were playing well and when his dump offs made good yardage. But, we were playing the screen as well as any team in the league, and our WRs aren’t the best hands in the world, so throwing short to medium range passes and letting them use their speed to make more out of it seems like a solid plan.
We have chosen our WRs for their speed not their ability to run routes or catch the ball in general. They drop more than they should. But they are fast, and they do hussle (saw many times they made good blocks downfield).
Overall, I would prefer an upgrade at QB. I’d like a veteran WR who catches everything that comes his way and knows how to get open when it counts. I don’t think we’ll get either of those at this point. So, the game plan would seem to be pound the rock and run a bunch of screens and short passes and then play action and try to open up the deep game occasionally hoping that our line holds up long enough and JC can make the throw. If JC gets rid of the ball quickly (partly due to our OL also which will now be more in-doubt with a bunch of first-time or 2nd year players) we can still move the ball. Even if not consistantly we can definitely make big plays with the speed we have.
If one other CB steps up to replace Namdi (I’m pretty sure he is leaving unfortunately) then we should have a very solid “D” and with that type of offensive firepower (even if not consistent) we should still win a good number of games.
That’s my outlook. Hopefully we draft a QB next year that gets a couple years to learn under Saunders and we’ll have the future put there as well.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:43 am
This Ron Wolf malarkey is such a load of stinking BS. By that logic, Parcells is a piker too- after all, he never won a SB without Belicheat.
God forbid some impressionable young Raider fan should come here and actually think you know what you’re talking about.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Kell, I think they “might” listen to season ticket holders but COMMENTS ON A BLOG?????
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When Mr.D said Jer it meant more than it seemed,its obvious there is a realationship between them that Jer dont disclose
May 20th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Miami game was a classic example of the blitz burning us. There were countless 3rd down chances for us to get off the field, but Marshall’s 2 safety blitz was countered with max protection and Devon Bess picked us apart on short quick routes, and back shoulder throws.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:52 am
One side note in this game is how well Mitchell, Branch, and Brown are playing. At least in the first half.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:54 am
raiderzmaverick nice post.
I will say I am optimistic about Jason Campbell coming back next year. I resent hearing the statements from some individuals on this blog that his problems are in his head like he can’t grasp the offense. I think if anything he over thinks what he does and should go more off of instinct.
Yes, Ford did adjust to the ball and make a great play last year but Campbell put the ball and trusted his WR to make a great play. Very good QBs get bailed out by their WRs all the time.
What Campbell does better to me then what our previous QBs can’t do since Gannon is put the ball where players can make plays. He is more of a rythm and timing QB. I liked Grads but he was a sand lot type QB that came in to rally the team and make plays when the offense broke down. Do I even need to mention Russell?
Most of the best QB and WR combinations in the league do everything off of rythm and timing practiced over and over and over. I like what Campbell is trying to do with his WRs putting in the time.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:59 am
I am mainly concerend about the o-line next year, which is really fragmented,we can’t win with out a running game and it starts with the o-line. Especially if the lock out kills some of our practice time and if Nnamdi does not come back the way we play man to man with a bunch of rookie corners. Plus, Chris Johnson gets hurt every year and misses games. If we let both Huff and Nnamdi walk away well LMBO!!! Next season is a wrap!
May 20th, 2011 at 7:03 am
LOL!
3rd and 7 1st possession of the 2nd half, we blitz again and a 5 yd out turns into a long TD. A lot of folks jumped on McFadden on that play but I have to question Marshall’s game plan. Seems like he would have made the adjustment since this wasn’t working in the first half. McFadden damn near got his hand on the ball for the deflection, but there was no one around to have his back due to the double S blitz.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:05 am
Hey, Parcells never won a SB without Lawrence Taylor either. Without the greatest d coordinator and the greatest defensive player ever, he’s nothing but a mediocre coach. Not only that, he talks about things he learned from Al Davis, who as MOST Raider fans know, deserves no credit for anything EVER. Parcells and Davis are fakers!!!
May 20th, 2011 at 7:05 am
All right, so the verdict is in!!!!
Here’s my e-mail to Jerry:
To: McDonald, Jerry
Subject: blog question
Quick question Jerry, do you know of Raider employees reading the comment section of your blog?
I could of sworn I read something from you that hinted around this.
Thank you sir.
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His response:
I know many read it. Have no evidence any comment regularly, although it makes sense somebody would probably comment from time to time . . .
May 20th, 2011 at 7:06 am
So who is Herrera masked at amongst us????
May 20th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Leaving McFadden on the island after he was already struggling, was pretty stupid by Marshall.
Best believe Al got rid of him at least partly because of his frequent blitzing.
Last years Raiders defense blitzed more than any other Raider defense I could remember watching.
2011 = a lot less blitzing
May 20th, 2011 at 7:35 am
That TD in the 3rd qtr is the first play McFadden got beat on. We were up 14-13 right before that with ALL of the early damage being done against Marshall’s blitz. Routt, Nnamdi, and Huff (who played corner all day) were getting beat by Bess and Hartline on quick routes.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:38 am
“Coach W has me blown up during lockout. Now pushin 295. Might play real position.”
- Jon Condo on twitter
May 20th, 2011 at 7:38 am
And it was the same ragedy 2 safety blitz on 3rd down. Never switched it up as to when he blitzed or who he blitzed.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:52 am
@Jerry MacDonald,
As a Raiders fan it very frustrating to read articles that lack basic research.
When I was in college (and law school) the idea that you would publish without having the facts complete and correct was taboo. Not so, it seems, it seems for some.
As a few commenters have already stated, G Daniel Loper (6-6 320 and a zone blocker), who started four games and played quite well at LG last season, was re-signed (reportedly 2 yrs, 3.9M).
Given his performance, size and contract, it’s reasonable to assume that the team has penciled, if not inked, him in at G.
With that fact, the OL situation is 20% less dire than described. (I assume that why it was left out–but reading poor writing has made me cynical).
May 20th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Was Detroit playing a ZBS when Loper was there?
May 20th, 2011 at 8:02 am
So Jerry West is on board with the Warriors now? How far the mighty have fallen!
I guess the Warriors will now be trading Monta to the Lakers for Steve Blake and a second round pick? Yeah baby! Love you Jerry!
May 20th, 2011 at 8:04 am
293.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 7:05 am
All right, so the verdict is in!!!!
Here’s my e-mail to Jerry:
To: McDonald, Jerry
Subject: blog question
Quick question Jerry, do you know of Raider employees reading the comment section of your blog?
I could of sworn I read something from you that hinted around this.
Thank you sir.
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His response:
I know many read it. Have no evidence any comment regularly, although it makes sense somebody would probably comment from time to time . . .
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Awesome
May 20th, 2011 at 8:16 am
“So who is Herrera masked at amongst us????”
Its me I am the evil one who is the keeper of the crypt.
May 20th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Why all the love for Satele? He may have been consistent but he certainlly was not outstanding. Satele gets pushed around routinely, just like Routt blows coverages and has no idea where to line up two or three times per game….
May 20th, 2011 at 9:03 am
test8741
May 20th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Miami & OKC are up 2-1 after this weekend!
May 20th, 2011 at 9:11 am
The mushroom logo signifies the similarity between the “O-Line” coach and the fungus. Both are kept in the dark and fed garbage yet continue to flourish!
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feed our O-Line hogs some garbage, Bob!
May 20th, 2011 at 9:11 am
What, no Warrior fans pumped about Jerry West?
May 20th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Why all the love for Satele?
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Yeah, I don’t see it either….but I have a feeling we will be taking a step down with Little Wiz….that pick was a reach.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Macho,
Satele & Gallery were our best OL grunts last year. Even Cooper Carlisle was solid, for the most part.
Giving Loper starter money, bashing Cable for not playing BCamp at RG last year & drafting Wiz and Barksdale in the 2nd & 3rd rounds certainly means that most likely we’ll have 4 new starters on the line and Veldheer didn’t take over the starting LT job until Week 7 last year.
Bob Wylie & Sanjay Lal are basically in the same boat if we don’t sign any vets for depth, competition or leadership.
I’m not saying that this young group will fail, but they certainly face a tough challenge without OTA’s and possibly T-Camp. Most people live by the saying “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” so they would have drafted 2 tackles and let Henderson & Walker retire, go to jail or test the waters in free agency (whenever that’ll be) Obviously Veldheer & Barnes would challenge the newbies at that point
May 20th, 2011 at 9:20 am
If there is one spot Al used to be able to solidify it was the C position….but since Tijuana Boy snapped it has been weakness.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:24 am
What, no Warrior fans pumped about Jerry West?
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I think Laker fans would have been happier to get rid of Buss & Kupchak
May 20th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Rockstar,
Is $1.9 million starter money for a starting LG? I have no context for G’s and C’s salaries.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Had Dave Diehl on the NFL network, 5th round draft pick started from Day one day one at RG for the giants. Now is the Franchise LT. Hope for Barksdale/Campbell to be starers?
Agree we need to sign a vet lineman for one spot to compete/depth.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Mr Clutch will steal away Kobe Bryant in exchange for Ellis, Bell and a few draft picks
May 20th, 2011 at 9:29 am
The old man Al and Coach Huey need to keep Khalif Barnes around and resign him. He can play anywhere on the line accept Center and be a spot starter or backup or come in on elephant packages. He would provide good depth as well and can play the blocking TE role.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:30 am
312.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 9:24 am
What, no Warrior fans pumped about Jerry West?
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I think Laker fans would have been happier to get rid of Buss & Kupchak
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Jerry west has been gone for 10 years from the Lakers. I am over that. Under Mitch the Lakers have won 4 titles and gone to 6 finals….of course the first two rings were with teams Jerry built and I started having my doubts until Kobe farced the owner’s hand which allowed Mitch to do his thing….three trips to the finals later I have much more faith in Mitch.
The guy that needs to go is Jim Buss, Jerry Buss’ son. Looks like there is an internal civil war going on between Jim and his sister for control of the Lakers, and Jim is winning.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Is $1.9 million starter money for a starting LG?
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it is for a guy that started 4 games last year and played “ok”
Glad Al didn’t overpay him!
Remember that Al Davis only offered Robert Gallery $2.5 million per season and he was an unquestionned starter when healthy
May 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Warriors should take Fredette and then they will have solid trade bait between Ellis and Curry to try and get a solid and athletic big.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Is $1.9 million starter money for a starting LG?
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it is for a guy that started 4 games last year and played “ok”
Glad Al didn’t overpay him!
Remember that Al Davis only offered Robert Gallery $2.5 million per season and he was an unquestionned starter when healthy
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Didn’t Gallery make $5M last year, more than whole rest of the O-Line combined? He has been paid for years at LT salary to play LT/RT badly and LG. Thought he might have given the Raiders a little discount, do you really think he is going to get a big contract somewhere else? He has missed a mumber of games in the past two years.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am
So who is Herrera masked at amongst us????
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Well if it is the Raiders organization, paranoid and secrative; then he would have to be in “deep cover.” The logical choice has to be Kool Kell.
Johne Herrera = Kool Kell.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Davy Jones, Facts are Facts.
True, Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick. There may be something to that, as Parcells took on the reputation as sort of a choking front runner in the ’90s, a la Shottenheimer, while still being a well respected coach.
Of course, none of this changes the fact that Al Davis never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf. And, again, Ron Wolf has, on the other hand, won a Super Bowl without Al Davis.
The only reason I bring this up in the first place is to refute the hyperbolic argument by so many in here that Al Davis is some kind of deity. Clearly, he’s not. Your “god” never won the big one without Ron Wolf. So if Al’s a god, Ron Wolf must be king of the flipping galaxy.
Furthermore, I didn’t see Parcells getting the same type of blind worship from fans of the respective teams he’s worked for that Al gets from a shrinking number of Raider fans.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:46 am
306.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Miami & OKC are up 2-1 after this weekend!
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Both series are over now…….OKC in 6…Miami in 6…..Durant vs Lebron features two best players in the NBA a 7 game series for sure
Dallas matches up bad with OKC as does everyone in the WEST
Chitown lacks a dominant swingman. Rose as your distributor and go to guy? Please
May 20th, 2011 at 9:50 am
When you look at the Raiders’ performance on the field in the past 8 years, it’s not hard to believe the team’s front office personnel spends too much time on blogs.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:52 am
318.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Is $1.9 million starter money for a starting LG?
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it is for a guy that started 4 games last year and played “ok”
Glad Al didn’t overpay him!
Remember that Al Davis only offered Robert Gallery $2.5 million per season and he was an unquestionned starter when healthy
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Well it seems to me that $1.9 million doesn’t necessarily mean the guy should be penciled in as a starter.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:53 am
301.Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 8:02 am
So Jerry West is on board with the Warriors now? How far the mighty have fallen!
I guess the Warriors will now be trading Monta to the Lakers for Steve Blake and a second round pick? Yeah baby! Love you Jerry!
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Monta was gone period. Dont need a lead guard we need a shooting guard. Monta is a 6th man inthe form of Jason Terry and bobby Jackson
May 20th, 2011 at 9:54 am
The Raiders are “secretive”? How do you figure? What secret are they keeping right now? I challenge anyone here to come up with any possible secret about the Raiders that hasn’t already been discussed extensively by fans. Sure, Al likes to play “keep-away” games with the media, even if he’s horrible at it. For however secretive the Raiders are, fans are always discussing team decisions months before they happen, are they not?
May 20th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Kokchap should be fired for signing Artest. And Jerry West is simply the best GM ever in pro sports.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:57 am
This Cahill character with his fancy 6-1 record and sub 2 ERA is about to be brought back down to earth tonight.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:57 am
RIP Randy Macho Man Savage
http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/20/randy-savage-car-accident-macho-man-dead-dies-died-killed-wwe-wrestler-florida/
May 20th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jerry West is the best GM ever in pro sports? Even better than Al Davis?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:00 am
@RMR
Ok, they try to keep up the illusion of “secreacy,” better? But here are some for fun:
(1) Penality box for the media.
(2) No pictures of Al Davis.
(3)All teams are secrative about their draft, but some of the draft choices by the Raiders had very little contact with the Raiders. The misiformation by the Raiders on who they are picking.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Sad to hear about Savage, aka “The Macho Man”. His real name is actually “Poffo”. He’s the brother of former wrestler “Leaping Lanny” Poffo, who used to read poetry before matches. Yeah, that stud. Of course, it’s all staged anyway. They were great entertainers. Did you know that Randy Savage’s ringside manager, the beautiful Elizabeth, died a few years back herself? She had a serious drinking problem. “Pro” wrestling is undoubtedly the arm pit of the entertainment industry where emotional stability is concerned. It’s a notch above the porn industry.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
RIP – Randy The Macho Man Savage.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Lacob said that major changes were coming to Warrior franchise…..thank god. Can we play we possession ball with defense being a priority?
Trade Monta and Biedrins….too bad we wont find a sucker to get David Lee at 20 mil a pop lol
Start Epke Udoh at PF for heaven’s sake
Look into getting a big man. Doubt Marc Gasol would sign here. NeNe would be an excellent big man for GSW…..or make a trade and get Andrew Bogut outta Milwaukee. That area sucks
Last but not least….do all u can to get Alec Burks. Hands down the best SG in the draft has no weakness to his game IMO. 6′6 200 lbs and gets to the line alot. Can also play some D.
Warriors better not fk this up
May 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Didn’t the Macho Man play minor league baseball?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
RIP Randy Poffo!
He was one crazy MFr but I enjoyed the WWF as a kid
May 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Somewhere there’s a blog that lists all of the dead WWF superstars from the ’80s. It’s an extensive list, and it’s creepy, because of course they died well before their time. Junkyard Dog and Big John Stud are both RIPs too, I believe.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:04 am
336.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Didn’t the Macho Man play minor league baseball?
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Yeah in the 70s think it was the Cards or Reds….cant remember
May 20th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Udoh will be all NBA defense 2nd team in 2 years, if not next year.
He got calls last year, that were part of the “rookie calls” that Donahue talked about.
I say we draft Kwahi Leonard from SDSU. Great size and defense on the perimeter, who can actually rebound like a forward.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:05 am
338.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Somewhere there’s a blog that lists all of the dead WWF superstars from the ’80s. It’s an extensive list, and it’s creepy, because of course they died well before their time. Junkyard Dog and Big John Stud are both RIPs too, I believe.
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Yeah MR tell me about it…..when you see those shoot interviews on youtube you get a real grim look at how pro wrestling really is
May 20th, 2011 at 10:07 am
340.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Udoh will be all NBA defense 2nd team in 2 years, if not next year.
He got calls last year, that were part of the “rookie calls” that Donahue talked about.
I say we draft Kwahi Leonard from SDSU. Great size and defense on the perimeter, who can actually rebound like a forward.
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Kwahi the Gangsta Leonard will be gone by time it for us to select. But at SF do you really wanna sit down Dorrell Wright? He went from 9 a game to 17 a game. That’s getting it done. I like Kwahi though
May 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Of course, whatever you do, don’t ask Vince McMahon (pro wrestling’s John Herrera) to take any accountability for the untimely deaths of many of his former wrestlers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovZrHt3ALbs
May 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
If Leonard had an actual jumper and could hit FTs, SDSU would have been in final four if not win the entire thing…..lord have mercy
May 20th, 2011 at 10:09 am
@RMR
Doesn’t help the amount of roids and HGH these guys use. It is impossible to look like that through lifting with all the practice and traveling for wrestling. See a lot of these guys bulk to big for their form and suffer heart attacks/blood clots.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:10 am
343.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Of course, whatever you do, don’t ask Vince McMahon (pro wrestling’s John Herrera) to take any accountability for the untimely deaths of many of his former wrestlers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovZrHt3ALbs
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MR….Vince is like Al Davis in the fact that he favors the bigger atletic specimen over everyone, but Vince is way colder than Al ever could be. You wanna talk about fking ppl over? He makes Al look like a Saint
May 20th, 2011 at 10:11 am
345.DutchRaider77 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:09 am
@RMR
Doesn’t help the amount of roids and HGH these guys use. It is impossible to look like that through lifting with all the practice and traveling for wrestling. See a lot of these guys bulk to big for their form and suffer heart attacks/blood clots.
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Aw Vince knew and wanted them to be super out ofthis world Buff. He was taken roids his damn self
May 20th, 2011 at 10:13 am
B,
Leonard isn’t a starter yet, at least not on day 1.
I think he would fit in a well, as our SG/SF reserve.
Basically a better version of Magette, only he plays defense and actually cares about winning.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Brien, true on Vince McMahon being worse than Al Davis. But this doesn’t absolve Al Davis of his issues.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am
348.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:13 am
B,
Leonard isn’t a starter yet, at least not on day 1.
I think he would fit in a well, as our SG/SF reserve.
Basically a better version of Magette, only he plays defense and actually cares about winning.
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Dont ever say Magette again or we wont be cool dude
I think we need a starting SG day 1 who can come in…..Burks is best for that imo
May 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am
If you could live the lifestyle of WWF 80’s rock hair stars, knowing that you’d shave 25 years off your life. And you knew this when you were young, would you do it?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Vince is like Al Davis in the fact that he favors the bigger atletic specimen over everyone
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Trade DMAC for Greg Skrepenak!
May 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am
349.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Brien, true on Vince McMahon being worse than Al Davis. But this doesn’t absolve Al Davis of his issues.
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Never said it did…nor have I ever said Al was a saint or a good guy. al got some issues for sure but I’ll roll with him
May 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Al Davis’s “love” for big, strong athletes combined with his alleged views on black athletes from Notre Dame (hence, black athletes that would lean more toward the intelligent side than the athletic…) doesn’t sit well with me.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am
352.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Vince is like Al Davis in the fact that he favors the bigger atletic specimen over everyone
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Trade DMAC for Greg Skrepenak!
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no………youre wrong again and OHIO St will blast u again with their illegal ass team and nada you can do about it
Skrep was the man tho
May 20th, 2011 at 10:19 am
You WWF clowns give raider fans a bad name…
May 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
354.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Al Davis’s “love” for big, strong athletes combined with his alleged views on black athletes from Notre Dame (hence, black athletes that would lean more toward the intelligent side than the athletic…) doesn’t sit well with me.
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Alledged, but Tim Brown himself was on chorincle live a few weeks agoand cleared that up my friend
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
356.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:19 am
You WWF clowns give raider fans a bad name…
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Aw man ligthen up…..WWF was cool back in the 80s and early 90s
I’m not a fan though but lay off of the Raider fans though buddy. They have done nada to you Bo
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
We need a SG, and he needs to be defensive oriented.
Love Steph, but he will never be a good defender. That chest and shoulders is just way to sleight.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Bo, WWF was perhaps the most popular entertainment venue for kids who grew up in the 1980s, like me. It was huge. Far more popular, at least amongst kids, than any of the major pro sports. If my friends had a choice between watching an NFL game and wrestling, it would have been wrestling in a heart beat. And one of those friends played major league baseball for 2 years.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:22 am
356.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:19 am
You WWF clowns give raider fans a bad name…
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This is coming from the guy who wants to trade our most explosive offensive weapon lol….bad name? Check ya self
May 20th, 2011 at 10:24 am
359.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
We need a SG, and he needs to be defensive oriented.
Love Steph, but he will never be a good defender. That chest and shoulders is just way to sleight.
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Alec Burks….played against my cousin since they were lil kids in KC. Plays on both ends of the floor. Has range, can pass, dribble, good FT pct, good attitude and unselfish…..that is your SG at 6′6 200
May 20th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Kinda funny, but wrerstling is closer to ballet or dancing than fighting. Some wrestlers were not popular w/ other wrestlers b/c they did not practice and ended up hurting people, i.e. Mongo McMichaels.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:25 am
360.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Bo, WWF was perhaps the most popular entertainment venue for kids who grew up in the 1980s, like me. It was huge. Far more popular, at least amongst kids, than any of the major pro sports. If my friends had a choice between watching an NFL game and wrestling, it would have been wrestling in a heart beat. And one of those friends played major league baseball for 2 years.
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Yup back in the day….btu now pro wrestling is beyond garbage and pro sports has turned into the WWF lol
May 20th, 2011 at 10:25 am
363.DutchRaider77 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Kinda funny, but wrerstling is closer to ballet or dancing than fighting. Some wrestlers were not popular w/ other wrestlers b/c they did not practice and ended up hurting people, i.e. Mongo McMichaels.
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Mongo was embarrassing
May 20th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I stopped watching pro wrestling in the 7th grade. It’s undoubtedly a kid thing. Every now and then I’ll watch for a second as I flip through the channels, and the first thing I notice is the adults in the audience, with no kids in tow, cheering and taking it seriously. I can only hope they’re implants. If not…yikes.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:30 am
See MR….when talking other topics outside ofthe Raiders and politics…you not so bad man. Music, the A’s, your disdain for LA teams you damn sure are on top of and u know your old school WWE. You should stick to those man. You are very cool under those terms
May 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am
366.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:30 am
I stopped watching pro wrestling in the 7th grade. It’s undoubtedly a kid thing. Every now and then I’ll watch for a second as I flip through the channels, and the first thing I notice is the adults in the audience, with no kids in tow, cheering and taking it seriously. I can only hope they’re implants. If not…yikes.
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The implants are those with the signs…..Vince lol
May 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Yo morning peeps,
I heard Mike Brown was a strong candidate for the GW….noooooooooo
May 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Bo, WWF was perhaps the most popular entertainment venue for kids who grew up in the 1980s, like me. It was huge. Far more popular, at least amongst kids, than any of the major pro sports.
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Speak for yourself Sactown loser. No surprise you were on the Hulkster’s tip, tho. For young ATHLETES in the 80s like myself, pro wrestling was for punks and castro-dwellers.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I’ll tell you what, The Wrestler (Mickey Rourke) was a great flick though, wasn’t it? As far as independent type movies go, that focus more on characters and story more than special effects, crude humor, etc, it’s one of the best I’ve seen in recent years.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I think sometime this week I’ll get on youtube and find some old Randy Savage matches…..I use to dothe best Randy Savage impersonation ever lol
May 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
While on WWF….
As an avid weight lifter, I loved the Ultimate Warrior’s build. Dude knew how to work with his juice but he sure was one strange fellow.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Whatever you say, Bo. We had a future pro baseball player in our little loser sac town click, and he was as into the Hulkster as anyone.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
I watched wrestling even before WWF. Back then it was “Lucha Libre” with Mexican wrestlers in masks. That was some good entertainment.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:34 am
371.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I’ll tell you what, The Wrestler (Mickey Rourke) was a great flick though, wasn’t it? As far as independent type movies go, that focus more on characters and story more than special effects, crude humor, etc, it’s one of the best I’ve seen in recent years.
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Mickey Rourke killed that role….still sad to see how Marisa Tomei is all plastic in the face. I remember how fine I thought she was on the original Pilot season of “Different World”
May 20th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Would ya believe Tupac has smacked em a few times on Marisa tomei? Pac sure did get around, i cant hate on that
May 20th, 2011 at 10:36 am
B, was that the most obvious body double you’d ever seen when Tomei is bending over at the strip club? If that’s really her, sign me up for her fan club now.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:36 am
373.aig-raiders Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
While on WWF….
As an avid weight lifter, I loved the Ultimate Warrior’s build. Dude knew how to work with his juice but he sure was one strange fellow.
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James Brian Hellwig was crazy ripped
May 20th, 2011 at 10:37 am
378.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:36 am
B, was that the most obvious body double you’d ever seen when Tomei is bending over at the strip club? If that’s really her, sign me up for her fan club now.
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Oh i’d still fold something on her now….dont be fooled lol
May 20th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Tupac “got around”. But he never got the ultimate prize: Janet. Rumor had it she changed her number due to his stalking, after shooting Poetic Justice.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
369.aig-raiders Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Yo morning peeps,
I heard Mike Brown was a strong candidate for the GW….noooooooooo
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AIG….out here so many of us are against that move
May 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
“shooting” probably a poor choice of words in this instance.. filming Poetic Justice.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Lay off my Italian dream-wife!!!
May 20th, 2011 at 10:40 am
If that’s really Tomei’s body, she’s got my vote as hottest actress over 40. By a long shot.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:41 am
381.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Tupac “got around”. But he never got the ultimate prize: Janet. Rumor had it she changed her number due to his stalking, after shooting Poetic Justice.
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Yeah well Pac talked about it…..I actually think Janet saw Tupac as a way of ruining her image. She prolly dug dude couldnt risk it
Janet isnt the ultimate prize I’d say. I mean fame wise I guess but Pac ran many women and also had Quicy Jones daughter and the finest woman ever….SALLI RICHARDSON….thats what the song “Whatz Ya Phone number” was referring to….”Never had sex with a rich rap star til I got her inthe back of my homeboy’s car”
May 20th, 2011 at 10:41 am
So when is Al Davis gonna get his statue outside the Colosseum? Or maybe at Jack London square…
or both?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Say what you will about how WWF was fake but those dudes are so athletic and talented. You usually lose your flexibility when you lift weight and bodybuild but those guys were able to achieve both.
I’m always amazed at how they can fly around and do their stunts while being ripped at the same time.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:42 am
384.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Lay off my Italian dream-wife!!!
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Sorry bruh just cant get her from the late 80s and early 90s out my system
May 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am
sup JFB,
Glad we finally connected via email. Marissa Tomei??? You must have loved My Cousin Vinny. Didnt Tomei start in a very raunchy movie a few years back?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am
385.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:40 am
If that’s really Tomei’s body, she’s got my vote as hottest actress over 40. By a long shot.
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Tomei can still get it….fk that, I know thats some good wet wet
May 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Brien, back then, Janet was the ultimate prize. She was in her late 20s, as hot as she’s ever looked, and had just put an album out, that had multiple hits.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:44 am
the lockout being upheld sucks so i say f_uck the nfl
May 20th, 2011 at 10:44 am
390.aig-raiders Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am
sup JFB,
Glad we finally connected via email. Marissa Tomei??? You must have loved My Cousin Vinny. Didnt Tomei start in a very raunchy movie a few years back?
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My Cousin Vinny….aw dont get me started. That thick annoying NY accent made me wanna jump thru the screen and attack!
May 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Janet wanted an HIV test before her love scene in that movie, lol
May 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Janet, like a lot of the Jacksons, was very reclusive. Pac’s thug vibe scared her off. She wasn’t with it.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am
392.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Brien, back then, Janet was the ultimate prize. She was in her late 20s, as hot as she’s ever looked, and had just put an album out, that had multiple hits.
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I remember 93 and the Janet album well…….hot as she ever looked? Hmmmmm up for debate but she was right back then I cant lie.
But come on realistically Pac had no shot at that. Janet was someone reputable and he wasnt. If Pac ever smashed then he won IMO
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
395.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Janet wanted an HIV test before her love scene in that movie, lol
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Becuz what yall dont know is Janet is super duper uber freaky and is a nympho. She just wanted to test ride Pac is all
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
What up AIG.
Marissa is Italian guys dream Italian girl.
She actually works, and is smoking hot.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
396.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Janet, like a lot of the Jacksons, was very reclusive. Pac’s thug vibe scared her off. She wasn’t with it.
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U damn right it did
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Tomei looked too much like an aging jersey housewife in Cousin Vinny. I honestly think she looked better in the Wrestler, whorish stripper look and all. She’s aged well. Like I said earlier, if that’s really her body in the scene where she’s bending over at the strip club, she’s the hottest actress over 40, easily.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:48 am
399.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
What up AIG.
Marissa is Italian guys dream Italian girl.
She actually works, and is smoking hot.
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LMAO….you killed it VR
May 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
401.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Tomei looked too much like an aging jersey housewife in Cousin Vinny. I honestly think she looked better in the Wrestler, whorish stripper look and all. She’s aged well. Like I said earlier, if that’s really her body in the scene where she’s bending over at the strip club, she’s the hottest actress over 40, easily.
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U gimme Tomei in “Different World” days and yall can take whatever else you want
May 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Janet Jackson looked her best on Good Times. U kow Little Michael was spyin her. I thought Velma was quite solid…
May 20th, 2011 at 10:50 am
but to Janet’s credit……….if u are with a woman in a nice cozy spot…put on “Funny How Time
Flies” and “anytime Any Place……you will never lose
May 20th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I wonder if Kid Dynomite hit it…
May 20th, 2011 at 10:52 am
404.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Janet Jackson looked her best on Good Times. U kow Little Michael was spyin her. I thought Velma was quite solid…
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LOL Chitown bias …..just kidding…..yeah Thelma had much ass with a wonderful waist line
May 20th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I wonder if Kid Dynomite hit it
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Never
May 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Was it Thelma? I guess Velma was Scooby Doo lmao
May 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Women dressed too homely in the late ’80s/early ’90s. Big clothes. Times were too conservative then. lol. Wasn’t until the late ’90s female celebs started showing body. Thank you, Madonna. Janet was one of the first to show some body in her videos, too.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:54 am
409.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Was it Thelma? I guess Velma was Scooby Doo lmao
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HAHA rooby roooooooooooooo
May 20th, 2011 at 10:54 am
RIP Macho Man….”Oohhh Yeeaahh!”
Good Morning Raider Nation!
May 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Uh, you guys realize Janet Jackson was a child when she was on Good Time, right?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Hey guys, eveyone please enjoy the End of Times tomorrow!
I am out of here.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am
410.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Women dressed too homely in the late ’80s/early ’90s. Big clothes. Times were too conservative then. lol. Wasn’t until the late ’90s female celebs started showing body. Thank you, Madonna. Janet was one of the first to show some body in her videos, too.
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Yeah gotta agree with ya….Madonna and Janet pathed the way for Britney, Lil Kim and Nicki Minaj lol
Late 80s and early 90s fashion was rough
May 20th, 2011 at 10:56 am
The woman who played Thelma on Good Times was hot, too. Don’t even know her name. Was she even in anything else? What a waste. Racist azz Hollywood. Where were the white, Jewish film producers that exploited beautiful black women then?!?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Could you imagine Dakota’s mullet back in the latr 80s? Or Bo’s Hall and Oates hairdo back then?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
LMAO@
Tommorow around 6PM, the world as we know it is going to end.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
MR….her name was Bern Nadette Stanis
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Janet Jackson is proof that plastic surgery could make anyone attractive. Without it she would like crap.
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
418.guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
LMAO@
Tommorow around 6PM, the world as we know it is going to end.
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LOL doesnt bible say no man knows thwe time or hour?
May 20th, 2011 at 10:59 am
420.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Janet Jackson is proof that plastic surgery could make anyone attractive. Without it she would like crap.
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Crap? I wont go that far but average at best is accruate. Janet’s daughter is fine as hell though
May 20th, 2011 at 11:00 am
“Tommorow around 6PM, the world as we know it is going to end.”
And if it doesn’t can we all stop the religious banter and get with the times.
Its not the 1950’s anymore!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
“Crap? I wont go that far but average at best is accruate. Janet’s daughter is fine as hell though”
Crap was a little too hard on her…I would agree with average.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am
One thing…..no woman I’ve ever seen unless its at a Reggae club in Miami can move like Janet……jesus christ imagine handling that in the sack…..gotta be a strong cat for her
May 20th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Well, with age, that’s the case for most women, 666. If you’re saying Janet needed plastic surgery when she was younger, you’re high. She’s one of the most beautiful women in the history of American entertainment.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Things to do tommorow:
1)take some old clothes you don’t want and lay them down on concrete steps and park benches to simulate someone disappeared.
2)Blow up inflatable dolls with helium and let them loose at 6 PM.
3)Take video of reactions and upload.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am
666…. i knew what u were saying all along….u woulda fk janet in a heartbeat back then
May 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Wow Raider, you have a thing for Janet.
She looks too much like her brother Michael. That creeps me out. Maybe it has to do more with Michael looking like his sister.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:04 am
college football will be the best football played this yr by far unorganized workouts will do no good for the leauge
May 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am
426.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Well, with age, that’s the case for most women, 666. If you’re saying Janet needed plastic surgery when she was younger, you’re high. She’s one of the most beautiful women in the history of American entertainment.
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Most women are done by 30….they are getting replaced everytime there is a high school graduation lol
May 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am
666, you wouldn’t last long as a hollywood agent. I could see you in 1983: “What’s her name? Janet? Nope. Not going anywhere. Next”. You just have a keen eye for talent, don’t you?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:06 am
FYI
The rapture begins tonight at 11 PM in Toga Toga Samoa
May 20th, 2011 at 11:06 am
She’s one of the most beautiful women in the history of American entertainment.
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Let’s slow down a little bit here.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:06 am
“666…. i knew what u were saying all along….u woulda fk janet in a heartbeat back then”
I would not turn that down, you are correct, hell I have even been known to pork a fat chick from time to time.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
All the nonbelievers gonna live in hell on earth for 5 months starting tommorow….jejeje
May 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
429.guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Wow Raider, you have a thing for Janet.
She looks too much like her brother Michael. That creeps me out. Maybe it has to do more with Michael looking like his sister.
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Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeet…..back in 93 if Janet came up to you and said to you ” Hey Guest123, I’m feeling you and I wanna the night with you at my luxurious Hotel with all this alcohol wed and coke”………You would moonwalk to that freak’s room so fast you would beat USAIN bolt in a race
May 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Guest123, saying Janet Jackson is one of the best looking women in the history of American entertainment is not going out on a limb. Her career backs it up. Hollywood has rolled the dice on her time and time again. Do you think it’s because she’s “average” looking?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
“Wow Raider, you have a thing for Janet.
She looks too much like her brother Michael. That creeps me out. Maybe it has to do more with Michael looking like his sister.”
LMAO
Yeah “RAIDER” does have a hard on for her defending her like she is his sister, an incestuous one!!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Bauce Rules Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
429.guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Wow Raider, you have a thing for Janet.
She looks too much like her brother Michael. That creeps me out. Maybe it has to do more with Michael looking like his sister.
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Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeet…..back in 93 if Janet came up to you and said to you ” Hey Guest123, I’m feeling you and I wanna the night with you at my luxurious Hotel with all this alcohol wed and coke”………You would moonwalk to that freak’s room so fast you would beat USAIN bolt in a race
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You are right about that Bauce!
No lie
LMAO
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Vegas, do you think Hollywood rolled the dice on Janet, in both acting and singing, several times throughout her career because she’s not one of the best looking women in the history of entertainment?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
435.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:06 am
“666…. i knew what u were saying all along….u woulda fk janet in a heartbeat back then”
I would not turn that down, you are correct, hell I have even been known to pork a fat chick from time to time.
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What man hasnt done a few scret dirt missions? Kell lives with his dirt mission tho
May 20th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Do you think it’s because she’s “average” looking?
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Nah, she hot as hell
May 20th, 2011 at 11:10 am
440.guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Bauce Rules Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:07 am
429.guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Wow Raider, you have a thing for Janet.
She looks too much like her brother Michael. That creeps me out. Maybe it has to do more with Michael looking like his sister.
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Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeet…..back in 93 if Janet came up to you and said to you ” Hey Guest123, I’m feeling you and I wanna the night with you at my luxurious Hotel with all this alcohol wed and coke”………You would moonwalk to that freak’s room so fast you would beat USAIN bolt in a race
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You are right about that Bauce!
No lie
LMAO
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you are just a man….cant blame you…I’d actually beat janet to the room and would be naked before she made it there lol
May 20th, 2011 at 11:10 am
“All the nonbelievers gonna live in hell on earth for 5 months starting tommorow”
And I myself am looking forward to it…I think tonight I will get a 666 tattoo behind my left ear!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:11 am
441.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Vegas, do you think Hollywood rolled the dice on Janet, in both acting and singing, several times throughout her career because she’s not one of the best looking women in the history of entertainment?
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U are driving home a good point…..kinda hard to see Hollywood push an ugly woman so much to be a sex symbol for 25 years
May 20th, 2011 at 11:12 am
445.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:10 am
“All the nonbelievers gonna live in hell on earth for 5 months starting tommorow”
And I myself am looking forward to it…I think tonight I will get a 666 tattoo behind my left ear!
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Naw just go to a dive bar and fornicate with trash whore i say….thats fun sometimes
May 20th, 2011 at 11:12 am
speaking of porking a fatty:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ladyraptastic.com/uploaded_images/janet-jackson-fat-obese-1-796868.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ladyraptastic.com/2006_01_01_archive.html&usg=__1ibJ5XZs0WWTOg08XBbcJCeFH70=&h=1024&w=746&sz=121&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=M1cmZcpNHB7CYM:&tbnh=154&tbnw=118&ei=7q7WTZeIHoyCsQO27bmxBw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djanet%2Bjackson%2Bfat%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D667%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch0%2C22&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=478&sqi=2&page=1&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=66&ty=95&biw=1366&bih=667
May 20th, 2011 at 11:12 am
I think the Christian Right just comes up with these doomsday theories to flaunt their muscle. Even though everyone knows it’s b.s., look how much it’s being talked about? If some black Muslims propagated a doomsday theory and announced it to the media, it would get a small chuckle and then the story would disappear in a couple of news cycles. These Christian doomsday hoaxes are announced months ahead of time, and the whole country talks about it right up to the day.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:13 am
“See you tommorow about 6ish Randy, tell Miss Elizabeth to keep a seat warm.”
May 20th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Anyways….yall have a good weekend……remember Dallas and Chicago are finished in this year’s playoffs…..see ya
May 20th, 2011 at 11:14 am
“Naw just go to a dive bar and fornicate with trash whore i say….thats fun sometimes”
Very good advice!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Hey I ain’t saying she wasn’t hot.
But one of the hottest ever?? I don’t even know if she is one of the hottest of her time.
All the Jackson girls look like porcelain dolls to me, with their fake, exaggerated cheekbones.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Shhhheeeeeeeeeeeet…..
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Is that the Bauce’s impersonation of Clay Davis??
May 20th, 2011 at 11:17 am
449.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:12 am
I think the Christian Right just comes up with these doomsday theories to flaunt their muscle. Even though everyone knows it’s b.s., look how much it’s being talked about? If some black Muslims propagated a doomsday theory and announced it to the media, it would get a small chuckle and then the story would disappear in a couple of news cycles. These Christian doomsday hoaxes are announced months ahead of time, and the whole country talks about it right up to the day.
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I would have to agree 100%
May 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Vegas, I guess I’m just looking at it through the showbiz perspective. Maybe you can think of hundreds of female celebs hotter than Janet. Hollywood producers evidently can’t, and they’re surrounded by thousands of beautiful women. It’s not like they’re desperate for women with looks. And, they’ve rolled the dice on Janet in 3 different phases of her life, marketed her as a sex symbol every time.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Agree Raider
May 20th, 2011 at 11:20 am
457. Its all about name recognition. Has nothing to do with merit or talent.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Janet has talent though, and of course the last name never hurt.
If she was Janet Thompson, you would have never heard from her.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Janet had some talent. I don’t think we were all duped into buying her act because of the name.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Heres the deal, if the end of the world is on the 21st, I don’t want the last thing I’m thinking about to be Janet…
May 20th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Nnamdi, if they’ve only rolled the dice on Janet several times due to her name recognition, why haven’t they done the same with Rikki Lake? Do you see a difference?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:22 am
“Maybe you can think of hundreds of female celebs hotter than Janet. Hollywood producers evidently can’t”
In case you haven’t noticed there are literally thousands of women in Hollywood and 100’s of movies made each year without janet jackson in them.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Tommorow will come, and all the people who gave away their life savings and spent all that money on billboards will look and feel dumb. I feel sorry for them.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Vegas, that’s the case with a lot of celebrities. Either you know someone, or you screwed someone. And that truly is the case with most female celebrities. If Janet had taken the other route to getting her in, you guys would be calling her s lut.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Janet has name recognition plain and simple.
Like JFB said if she had another last name none of us would never know who she is.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Well, you have to admit, she undid her image with the Superbowl.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Rikki Lake’s a big name now, too. I wonder why record company execs aren’t tripping over each other to sign her? I mean, clearly it’s all about name recognition, right? Singing talent and looks have nothing to do with it.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am
“Tommorow will come, and all the people who gave away their life savings and spent all that money on billboards will look and feel dumb. I feel sorry for them.”
Not me religion is a scam plain and simple nothing else. If you invest in a scam and you are old of feeble I feel bad for you. Otherwise too bad.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Rikki Lake is not pursuing a singing and dancing career she is a talk show host.
To apply your own weak logic back to you why isn’t Jerry Springer seeking to be on American Idol?
Now your reasoning sounds kind of retarded doesn’t it?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Do you guys realize how many people try to get into show biz? Many of them are talented. It doesn’t mean squat. You have 10,000 people auditioning for one small roll. Let’s say 3,000 of them are genuinely talented, and not just there to get even with everyone who picked on them in school. Of the 3,000, only one’s getting the job. About 10 of those 3,000 have ins in the industry, blood relatives, what have you. There’s your final round of auditions, with maybe one or two lucky souls that got picked with no connections whatsoever. Almost everyone you see on television either knew someone, or screwed someone, to get there.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am
So, if Rikki Lake had pursued a singing and dancing career at the peak of her celebrity, she would have been as successful as Janet Jackson? Again, YOU said it’s all about name recognition. 10 years ago, Rikkie Lake was a huge name. Now, whose logic is retarded?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Yeah, Ricci Lake is a bad example. Girl weighed in at 270lbs at point (ok did a quick google.) She had a better shot at OG for the Raiders than a $ex symbol. Early acting career played the fat girl.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Raider is really a troll. Off the Raider blog and back to OMG! with you you.
RAIDER position of need to be filled in FA?
1. Back up QB
2. O line
3. Secondary
4. Other
Which is MOST important?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Rikki Lake and Janet Jackson???
Probably not what Al sends his minions over to read up on us about.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Your misquoting me media boy. I said with regards to janet jackson she had name recognition that helped her career weather it was dancing, singing or acting.
So now lets apply that scenario to a real situation. Miley Cyrus has a famous dad none of us would know who she is if that was not the case.
Using a talk show hosts popularity to compare to the career of a preforming artist is a huge stretch there guy. Come on even Ray Charles can see that.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:39 am
“Which is MOST important?”
an experienced backup QB if you ask me.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:39 am
1. O-Line
2. Secondary (Re-sign Nnamdi and Huff)
3. Backup QB
4. Other (fire Breshnahan and re-hire Marshall) We have seen enough of the prevent-you-from-winning-defense.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Dutch, What do you mean Rikki Lake is a bad example? She was a name, wasn’t she? 666 insists that Janet Jackson was only successful because of her name. His words.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I was thinking of Ray Charles the other day when I was watching Jamie Foxx sing America the Beautiful at the Pacquaio fight.
Ray would just kill that song every time. No better way to start a sporting event.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Ha ha! Oh, look at this!!! These guys spend the better part of an hour downplaying Janet Jackson’s talents and looks, then suddenly when I put forth an argument to the contrary that they have no answer for, suddenly I’m a troll.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Anybody talkin football today?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am
here is the misquote by “RAIDER”
“66 insists that Janet Jackson was only successful because of her name. His words.”
Here is what was actually said:
” I said with regards to janet jackson she had name recognition that helped her career weather it was dancing, singing or acting.”
You should work for the media your good at twisting words and putting words into peoples mouths.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am
lol. Come on, Vegas. You were participating in the discussion, too. You guys are weak. No answer to my Ricci Lake point, so now it’s “back to Raiders”.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:46 am
” suddenly I’m a troll”
No, you have always been a troll.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:48 am
666, almost every one you see on t.v. or hear on the radio had a connection. The means of getting a break in the biz only go downhill from there. So if you ask me, it’s quite noble that Janet Jackson is only known for her namesake. Most celebrities only get their break from having an in.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Well, if I’ve always been a troll, why did you guys even bother engaging the conversation for, say, the past hour or so? If I’m a troll, you guys are guilty of taking the bait, time and time again.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Anybody talkin football today?
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Just one football topic on my mind today. I know that Rod Woodsen and Breshnahan have a history. All good and well, but I actually liked all the blitzing we did last year with Marshall. If we go back to the soft prevent defense that Breshnahan did, I’m gonna be pissed off. That better not be the plan. We had a stouter offense back then. But never liked Bresh…
May 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
With the End of the World being tomorrow….
You have 1 wish to PORK any chick…who would it be?
Kim Kardashian
May 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I take that back….
Sofia Vergara
May 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Well I find it very troll like to bring “purple reign” into a forum filled with Lakers fans, and I used to be a Kings fan.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Sofia Vergara
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Yummmmm
May 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
666’s definition of a troll is anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Why limit your wish to just one chick?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Dutch, What do you mean Rikki Lake is a bad example? She was a name, wasn’t she? 666 insists that Janet Jackson was only successful because of her name. His words.
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To a certain extent, 666 is right. C’Mon every time Janet Jackson is mentioned, you don’t think of Michael? Does anybody not know that Janet is not Michael’s sister? But I agree she has all the assets to be famous. Is Ricci lake related to someone famous?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
position of need to be filled in FA?
1. Back up QB
2. O line
3. Secondary
4. Other
Which is MOST important?
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N21,
1. Our backup QB won’t be anybody special. You’re looking at guys like Alex Smith, Matt Leinart, David Carr & Brady Quinn if Gradkowski and/or Frye aren’t welcome back
2. the O-Line puzzle is solved. Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale. I like Satele backing up Wiz at C, but the only other “depth” = Alex Parsons & Roy Schuening. Gotta have 2 more guys that can play if called upon. I don’t see Cooper Carlisle in the picture
3. Secondary is solved. CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt. Holdovers McFadden, Ware, Eugene & Brown will compete with the guys we just drafted (Chewy & DVD)
4. Other = WR imo. Gotta have a vet 3rd down chain mover. a big physical guy that isn’t afraid to cross the middle. I like Terrell Owens, Plaxico Buress or T.J. Housh to fill this role. Many think that Moore or Ausberry can fill that role, but I’m not sold yet
Most important = Wide Receiver
May 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Elisha Cuthbert would be my choice.
http://abouthollywod.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2006-05-22-Elisha_Cuthbert_bikini_17.jpg
May 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Tamron Hall, of MSNBC, in my case. I’m just not that excited about singers and actresses today. Too young acting. The older I get, the more attracted I am to womens’ intelligence and maturity. I’m one of those killjoys.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Sounds like some people would like to pork Rikki Lake and some others would pork Janet…I’m cool on that!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
RIP,Macho Man…
May 20th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Comparing Ricki Lake to Janet Jackson is just lame.
End of topic, back to football and hot women we want to fornicate with before the world ends…..
May 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
DutchRaider, to be honest, no, I dont’ think of Michael every time Janet’s name is mentioned. In fact, and, I’ve thought of this for years, I find it hard to even picture them being related. And, I’m pretty sure that’s by design. Aside from doing a couple of videos with Micheal, Janet was hardly seen on television with him throughout her career. Perhaps she suspected something about him that we would all end up suspecting about him years later.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
LMAO at 499
May 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
@496
disagree that O-lnie is solved. What is the combined experience of the starting group?
also disagree that the secondary is solved. Don’t expect McFadden to contribute or even make this team.
also you can scratch Alex Smith off the list, he is starting for the niners. The lockout is not going to allow Kaepernick the time to acclimate to the NFL in time. Count on it.
May 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
666, not bad…not bad at all!
May 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
666, what is your problem? There’s no football even going on today. There’s going to be a lockout, looks unavoidable at this point. Season probably won’t start till October, and will be shortened. Would you just cool your jets?
May 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
I know that Rod Woodsen and Breshnahan have a history. All good and well, but I actually liked all the blitzing we did last year with Marshall. If we go back to the soft prevent defense that Breshnahan did, I’m gonna be pissed off. That better not be the plan. We had a stouter offense back then. But never liked Bresh…
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Chuck B is here because he has a history with Al Davis & Hue Jackson. Rod Woodson has the tough task of forming a secondary that plays well despite losing it’s best 2 cover men – #21 & #24. I gotta think Mike Waufle’s D-Line is gonna bring the heat, which will make the young DB’s jobs easier. The formula for winning will be the same as it has been for the past 10+ seasons. Stuff the run = win the game. Last time we were able to accomplish that we had Adams & Parrella at DT. this year we have Seymour & Kelly (again). Hope for the best!
May 20th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Soft defenses with Breshnehan? Didn’t Bresh call the corner blitz that forced the Brady (non) fumble?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Or did Al call that blitz? lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
you can scratch Alex Smith off the list, he is starting for the niners. The lockout is not going to allow Kaepernick the time to acclimate to the NFL in time. Count on it.
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Don’t bank on it. He’s an unrestricted free agent
He has the same chance to re-sign with SF as Gradkowski does with Oakland
May 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Chuck B is here because he has a history with Al Davis & Hue Jackson. Rod Woodson has the tough task of forming a secondary that plays well despite losing it’s best 2 cover men – #21 & #24. I gotta think Mike Waufle’s D-Line is gonna bring the heat, which will make the young DB’s jobs easier. The formula for winning will be the same as it has been for the past 10+ seasons. Stuff the run = win the game. Last time we were able to accomplish that we had Adams & Parrella at DT. this year we have Seymour & Kelly (again). Hope for the best!
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But Waufle isn’t in charge of dialing up the blitz. It’s in Breshnahan’s control. This soft, keep-it-in-front-of-you approach is going to keep the Raiders in games just long enough to get beat in the last 2 minutes. We need to be agressive. I for one hated to see Marshall go.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
How do you guys know which coaches are in charge of what?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RAIDER calm down, I will stop picking on you. I don’t want to hurt your chat feelings.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
@Rockstar
Think that Chuck B is just training wheels for someone already on our staff to take over next year? Wauffle?
“Last time we were able to accomplish that we had Adams & Parrella at DT. this year we have Seymour & Kelly (again). Hope for the best!”
Don’t forget Big John, key for that guy to stay healthy for a nice rotation.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
SF – Colin Kaepernick unlikely to compete for starting job
Source: CSNBayArea.com – Matt Maiocco
San Francisco 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick likely will not compete for the starting job during training camp because he does not have the benefit of offfseason workouts to help him learn the offense.
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Kaepernick is likely to begin the season as the primary backup behind veteran Alex Smith. The 49ers may not compete for a playoff spot this year, so we wouldn’t be surprised to see Kaepernick inserted into the starting lineup towards the end of the year.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
disagree that O-line is solved. What is the combined experience of the starting group?
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almost like asking a 4 month old premature baby to walk, right?
My feelings exactly.
However, assuming that Al Davis will do the reasonable or logical thing is a huge stretch. Look at the WR Corps the past 3 years!
Right now Chaz Schilens is your “vet mentor” in the WR Corps and he’s only started 14 games in 3 seasons. He’s just 25 years old
May 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Chuck B is here because…..we couldn’t get the guys we wanted.
Darren Perry and Dennis Thurman I think not 100% sure…someone will correct me if I am wrong.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
lol. pick on me all you like, 666. It’s not going to change anything. Do you honestly think you’re going to drive me out of here?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Don’t forget Big John, key for that guy to stay healthy for a nice rotation
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@Dutch,
well said. I would even include Desmond Bryant in the mix. He needs to step up. I think Seymour can show him the ropes
May 20th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
How do you guys know which coaches are in charge of what?
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Short answer: Southwick.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
It’s in Breshnahan’s control. This soft, keep-it-in-front-of-you approach is going to keep the Raiders in games just long enough to get beat in the last 2 minutes. We need to be agressive. I for one hated to see Marshall go
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Chuck B, Rob Ryan, John Marshall? call it a wash
none of these guys are superstar DC candidates. Maybe thats why Al Davis feels the need to be so involved? That’s the price you pay for being cheap though. You hire losers and expect to win?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
” Do you honestly think you’re going to drive me out of here?”
Not my intension nor do I care who posts in here, its not my blog. I am just here for pure entertainment value to pass time while toiling away at the office.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Southwick? I don’t understand.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Chuck B is here because…..we couldn’t get the guys we wanted.
Darren Perry and Dennis Thurman I think not 100% sure…someone will correct me if I am wrong
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Correct, Silver.
you might even add Winston Moss to the list?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
“none of these guys are superstar DC candidates. Maybe thats why Al Davis feels the need to be so involved? That’s the price you pay for being cheap though. You hire losers and expect to win?”
Pretty much the way it has been for the last several years here in Raider land.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
test 1
May 20th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Waufle isn’t in charge of dialing up the blitz
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G123,
this is probably true, but I still find those quotes from players last year a bit odd. All the D-Liners said the Waufle was challenging them to be like his G-Men DL that won the Super Bowl. Had them competing with his former team in sack totals and such
Jer said that Waufle would have been considered for the DC job if he was interested. Can’t see a great position coach satisfied with no control or authority whatsoever
May 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Wow…close call!
Thought I got blackballed again….
lol
May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I think we need an experienced backup QB and a safety.
I just cant see big Al signing a veteran WR with all the ones he currently has on the roster (scholarship)
May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
what wylie needs to do is light a match under bruce campbells butt and remind him that he has to hit someone in the nfl…
May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
666, you’re too angry to just be here for entertainment. You have some kind of agenda.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Read this tweet and thought this guy made an interesting point!
What is stopping the players from organizing any putting on their own games? >> Intelligence about an hour ago
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Well if thats the case…whats stopping them from joining the UFL?
Can they do that?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
666, you’re too angry to just be here for entertainment. You have some kind of agenda.
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Aaaah yeah, he comes here to amuse himself at our expense, lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
http://www.soul-patrol.com/newsletter/2004/news4/janet.jpg
May 20th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I just cant see big Al signing a veteran WR with all the ones he currently has on the roster (scholarship)
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DHB-Murphy-Ford-Schilens-Moore-Ausberry?
*puke*
anybody rooting for Nick Miller to oust David Ausberry (as #6 WR) from the WR Corps and onto the practice squad as a WR/TE like John Madsen?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I haven’t seen many Nick Miller = Wes Welker or Wayne Chrebet posts lately…
are we waiting for August or September to roll around?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Read this tweet and thought this guy made an interesting point!
What is stopping the players from organizing any putting on their own games? >> Intelligence about an hour ago
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Well if thats the case…whats stopping them from joining the UFL?
Can they do that?
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What is up with the UFL? With the lockout I thought this would be a great marketing oppurtunity for them?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen writes that Minnesota plans to add a veteran and Kyle Orton is on the team’s radar.
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Uh Oh!
May 20th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Orton to Minnesota?
McNabb to Arizona?
Palmer to SF?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I am still puzzled by the firing of Marshall. I remember Jerry writing about Marshall near end of last season something about Marshall having the look of a coach who wouldn’t return. It’s like Jerry knew something but couldn’t spit out the whole story.
I hope it wasn’t a petty Al Davis firing. The Marshall-Waufle duo was making great strides with this defense, from where they were at the start of the year.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Read this tweet and thought this guy made an interesting point!
What is stopping the players from organizing any putting on their own games? >> Intelligence about an hour ago
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Well if thats the case…whats stopping them from joining the UFL?
Can they do that?
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What is up with the UFL? With the lockout I thought this would be a great marketing oppurtunity for them?
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The UFL pays $50k/year. that’s why
May 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I am still puzzled by the firing of Marshall.
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Me too.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
DHB-Murphy-Ford-Schilens-Moore-Ausberry?
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Already give up on your boy, JLH?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Ausberry? I hope we didn’t just draft Teyo Johnson all over again…
May 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Ausberry? I hope we didn’t just draft Teyo Johnson all over again…
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It’s not fair to compare. Teyo was drafted in the 2nd round and Ausberry in the 7th. If Ausberry gets cut, it’s not that big a deal.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
JP Losman received 100k last year playing for the UFL!
May 20th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Bo, Janet didn’t lose too many fans from the “wardrobe malfunction”. Not that many of her fans were right wing evangelical fundies in the first place.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bo, Janet didn’t lose too many fans from the “wardrobe malfunction”. Not that many of her fans were right wing evangelical fundies in the first place.
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Clown, you’re arguing with the wrong guy. I never said sht about losing fans. I said Good Times was the apogee of her hotness.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
ausberry will be no good steve smith was the last good USC guy at WR
May 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Bo, Janet Jackson was a child when she was on Good Times. So, I find it a little disturbing that you would describe her as being “hot” then. I hope no pre-teen girls live near you.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Think about it Raider,
Bo was probably Janet’s age when that show aired. Of course she was hot to him back at that age.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Duh
May 20th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hard core Raider fans stick together. They’ll even defend a pedophile amongst their ranks. Class.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
542.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I am still puzzled by the firing of Marshall.
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Me too.
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Really? Why? The guy’s run D is almost always bottom 1/3rd
May 20th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
And I lusted for Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon. OMFG!
Save your fake “a little disturbing” crap, clown.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
It’s called heterosexuality. No way you can grasp it.
May 20th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Guest, notice how you specify that she was hot to someone who was young as well back in those days. Notice Bo did not specify that. Just said she was “hot” then. Is there really an excuse for a grown man to describe any pre-teen girl as “hot”, without at least offering some sort of disclaimer that he himself was a pre-teen at the time she was supposedly “hot”? I mean, you get it. You were careful enough to make the distinction. Why didn’t he?
May 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
u guys are sick leave little janet alone
May 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I really don’t pay that much attention to top 1/3 rush defense, bottom 1/3 defense, etc.
I want a DC who “brings it” and isn’t afraid to take chances to WIN.
WINNING is the most important stat to me.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Being attracted to 12 year old girls is not heterosexuality, it’s pedophilia. You need help.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Guest, notice how you specify that she was hot to someone who was young as well back in those days. Notice Bo did not specify that. Just said she was “hot” then. Is there really an excuse for a grown man to describe any pre-teen girl as “hot”, without at least offering some sort of disclaimer that he himself was a pre-teen at the time she was supposedly “hot”? I mean, you get it. You were careful enough to make the distinction. Why didn’t he?
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It may have been a freudian slip or something. FWIW, I didn’t care so much for young Janet. The 1993 Janet was her apex imo.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Careful, RMR, they bring up your taboo issues…
May 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Homophobic jokes are not going to mask what you just let slip, Bo.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
now the rythm nation janet was blazing hot
May 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Whatever taboo issue you can attribute to me, DutchRaider, I can assure you it’s not pedophilia. You won’t find one comment of mine even remotely entertaining the idea of a girl as young as Janet Jackson was when she was on Good Times being “hot”.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Every time they interview one of those pedophiles in prison, on those prison programs, what do they say? Every single one of them?
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
It’s called heterosexuality. No way you can grasp it.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon was 15, and at least she was playing an older teenager. If you’d expressed your lust for her alone, it might be different. But Janet Jackson was 12 year old on Good times, and played a 12 year old. An adult finding her “hot”, meaning, sexually attractive, is pedophilia.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I leave for lunch and I come back to see RAIDER making more friends.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RAIDER use your super mental skills and figure out he was a teenager when Janet was a teenager.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
I’m not interested in making friends with pederasts and people who defend them. I’ve never been more proud to play the role of “troll” right now.
As far as him having been young then, why does he need you and Guest to explain that? Notice he’s never given any such disclaimer? You guys were smart enough to make the clear distinction. Why isn’t he? Because he still thinks the 12 year old Janet Jackson is sexually attractive, to this day! That’s why. Read his words. It’s all up there.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
And, NOTICE…BO seems to have a problem with Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction in the Super Bowl. He prefers the breast of a 12 year old Janet to the fully pubescent Janet. F’g this f’gging sicko. You guys do the Raider nation thing and defend him all you want. This guy is SICK!
May 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I feel so much better having you here policing the BLOG from trolls and degenerates.
You are my hero!
May 20th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Brooke shields is like 46 years old now….only old azz guys like Priesttj and KK should feel bad if they watched Blue Lagoon in the 80s and thought she was hoooooot.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
You would never, ever hear me use the word “hot”, or any word that implied sexual attraction, to describe feelings I had for a girl my own age when we were as young as 12. That’s just one word that doesn’t come to mind. The word “hot” used in that context implies an ongoing sexual attraction. That’s just the impression the word gives. And I believe most words people use are connected to their wishes and desires. Isn’t that the reason we even speak in the first place?
Not cool. Like I said earlier, I sincerely hope Bo doesn’t work with pre-teens, or live near any.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Shields was 15, and I believe she was playing a character a little older than that. I’m not sure. I’ve never even seen Blue Lagoon. Of course, Bo would call me a ho-mo for that. If you’re not hard up for girls age 12 and up, you’re weak and g-ay, as far as he’s concerned.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
You would never, ever hear me use the word “hot”, or any word that implied sexual attraction, to describe feelings I had for a girl my own age when we were as young as 12. That’s just one word that doesn’t come to mind.
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Well, some people hit puberty at a later stage….you must have still been playing with your tonka truck at 12. I think I rubbed my first one out at about 12. TD RAAAAAAAIDERS!
May 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I thought Alyissa Milano was hot on Who’s the Boss.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Man, If I lived in S. Dakota….shutter, shutter………….yikes!
May 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
I’m not talking about people reaching puberty at certain ages. I’m talking about grown men calling 12 year old girls “hot”. And the fact that you immediately associate your first experiences with self pleasure to the Raiders scoring a touchdown tells me you had some interesting fantasies yourself. Although not as bad as Bo’s.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Dakota, if you think a 12 year old Alyssa Milano is hot, you have the same problem Bo does.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
578.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Man, If I lived in S. Dakota….shutter, shutter………….yikes!
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No need to cream your pants KK, S. Dakota is great, but not that great.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RAIDER
you are desperately seeking a reason to be right because you have failed so many times today.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
580.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Dakota, if you think a 12 year old Alyssa Milano is hot, you have the same problem Bo does.
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I said I thought…past tense….she grew up to be a hottie too…yummy.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am
RAIDER position of need to be filled in FA?
1. Back up QB
2. O line
3. Secondary
4. Other
Which is MOST important?
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I think O-Line is most important as right now under contract we only have:
LT – One 2nd year player with no back-up
LG – A back-u- (Loper) starting with (?)back-up
Center – A rookie with no Backup (Stelle is a FA)
RG – Either a purely zone blocking RG or a 4th rd pick who hasn’t played a snap in the NFL
RT – A rookie 3rd round pick (other two not under contract).
I know everyone suddenly thinks our O-Linemen 1st and 2nd year players will suddenly be solid players, but there’s a reason they were picked in the 3rd or 4th rounds. They have maybe “upside” but they’re not there yet.
Next important I’d say is:
4. OTHER find a Vet WR who has dependable hands and can get open and catch the ball when it counts to move the chains.
Backup QB will be good too actually as if we don’t handle the O-Line above we’ll almost surely have times that Jason will be out with injury.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
580.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Dakota, if you think a 12 year old Alyssa Milano is hot, you have the same problem Bo does.
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I said I thought…past tense….she grew up to be a hottie too…yummy.
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Love those NFL apparral commercials, Alyssa walking down the beach in Raider gear….Hot
May 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
For the record (note- Janet Jackson as aged 12-13 when she was on Good Times):
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Janet Jackson looked her best on Good Times.
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
…Good Times was the apogee of her hotness.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Dakota, waht do you think of the extreme anti-abortion laws signed in recently?
I thought you people wanted govt to stay out of your business?
May 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
666, I’m just quoting someone, and criticizing his disturbing remarks. That’s all. there’s nothing to prove wrong. The transcript speaks for itself. See comment 587.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I said I thought…past tense….
………
Now, how hard was that?
May 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Guest123 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I am still puzzled by the firing of Marshall.
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I was also pretty pissed about that. I think he was a “Cable guy” so the boss wanted to clean those out, which is stupid rather than look at the coach. Actually prefer him to Bresnehan.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
The 80s early 90s….hmmmmm, the chick from Karate Kid, the chick from Weird Science, Linda Hamilton in the first Terminator movie always got my motor going, the chick from Mannequin, the chicks on Saved by the Bell, Tiffany and Amy Grant, the chick on Night Court, the second oldest Cosby daughter….who else…hmmm…
Punky Brewster never got it going for me, but she is now hot as an adult!
May 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Alyssa Milano was her hottest in the ’90s, Melrose, Charmed. Especially Melrose.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
It always amazes me how 3/4ths of the comments on this blog never involve football. Either people bickering with eachother or talking about some completely random thing.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
“I know everyone suddenly thinks our O-Linemen 1st and 2nd year players will suddenly be solid players, ”
I am guessing Al feels he has made enough moves to build the O-Line (not saying I agree with him) just like he feels like he has enough WR’s on the team and will probably not go out and pursue a veteran.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Speaking of people playing teen roles that were hot. What’s that chicks name in “American Beauty”. The scene with the roses…..
May 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Dakota, waht do you think of the extreme anti-abortion laws signed in recently?
I thought you people wanted govt to stay out of your business?
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“you people,” hey, first racial slur of the day. Congrats KK.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
“I am guessing Al feels he has made enough moves to build the O-Line (not saying I agree with him) just like he feels like he has enough WR’s on the team and will probably not go out and pursue a veteran.”
I hope he does, or at least resigns our RT. Then at least we do have most of the line back if they don’t get beaten out by the younger guys.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
American Beauty was released in September of ‘99. You’d have to assume it was actually filmed in late ‘98, early ‘99. Mena Suvari, who plays the “girl in the roses” and Kevin Spacey’s midlife crisis breaker, was born Februarly ‘79. She was about 20 years old.
May 20th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
all that being said I think our first move (after the lockout ends) will be an experienced backup QB.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“you people,” hey, first racial slur of the day. Congrats KK.
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You people, meaning republican/tea-baggers.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
“you people,” hey, first racial slur of the day. Congrats KK.
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You people, meaning republican/tea-baggers.
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Well then, as a Bay Area resident-Faithful NPR listenr, carry on…
May 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
587.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Dakota, waht do you think of the extreme anti-abortion laws signed in recently?
I thought you people wanted govt to stay out of your business?
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Which ones….there are so many!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
If we even have a season (Vegas odds say we won’t) It will probably be watered down, tons of injuries, and a record amount of off field incidents.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
That was funnier than hell when Spacey overhears her talking dirty about him (jokingly, to antagonize his daughter), gets all jacked up and hits the dumbbells.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
“The Los Angeles Lakers are looking at former Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown as a possible successor to retired coach Phil Jackson”
PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Which ones….there are so many!
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The one in South Dakota
South Dakota Moves To Legalize Killing Abortion Providers
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/south-dakota-hb-1171-legalize-killing-abortion-providers
May 20th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Macho Man died in a car accident……I figured his heart finally gave in to the years of roids…..oh wait….upon further reading he may have had a “medical event” prior to the crash.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
PIERRE, S.D. — Women who want an abortion in South Dakota will face the longest waiting period in the nation – three days – and have to undergo counseling at pregnancy help centers that discourage abortions under a measure signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Dennis Daugaard.
Within minutes of Daugaard’s announcement that he had signed the measure, abortion rights groups said they plan to file a lawsuit challenging the measure, which one said could create particular hardships for women who live in rural areas hundreds of miles from the state’s only abortion clinic in Sioux Falls.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
The law will certainly make it harder for some women to get abortions, said Kathi Di Nicola, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota, which runs the clinic in Sioux Falls. Women could have to drive there several times to schedule an abortion, visit a crisis pregnancy center and then get an abortion, she said.
“It would most certainly be a barrier to women who have to travel. South Dakota is a rural state,” Di Nicola said. “Many women who are seeking abortion care already have to take time off work, arrange for child care.”
Planned Parenthood and the American Civil Liberties Union of South Dakota said they will ask a judge to strike down the measure as unconstitutional.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
587.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Dakota, waht do you think of the extreme anti-abortion laws signed in recently?
I thought you people wanted govt to stay out of your business?
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That law was never “signed in”….you need a course on how a bill is passed KK?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
606.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Which ones….there are so many!
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The one in South Dakota
South Dakota Moves To Legalize Killing Abortion Providers
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/south-dakota-hb-1171-legalize-killing-abortion-providers
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This is the law that was not passed KK….relax.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
#608 & 609
Bravo!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
“they will ask a judge to strike down the measure as unconstitutional.”
haven’t you figured out yet that the federal government commits many unconstitutional acts every day, its only when one of us citizens goes against constitution do they enforce it.
example: its unconstitutional to have a debtors prison but yet every day fathers who cannot pay their child support are put in jail.
The system is above the law or in this case above the constitution.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
KoolKell, Thank you for not including Rothbardian Anarchists among “you people”.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Lol, Dems make you wait a week or so to buy a hand gun, but god forbid you have to wait 3 days to abort a life.
sheesh
May 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
thats funny dakota
KK I understand your political views but seriously unless you are a pregnant woman please step off the soap box on this issue.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
615.Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Lol, Dems make you wait a week or so to buy a hand gun, but god forbid you have to wait 3 days to abort a life.
sheesh
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I thought you people wanted govt out of your personal affairs?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
616.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
thats funny dakota
KK I understand your political views but seriously unless you are a pregnant woman please step off the soap box on this issue.
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Why is that?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
“Why is that?”
Because you look so MACHO in your womens activist mode.
This is a football blog and I understand it can get political but abortion….come on man.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
614.Twocents Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
KoolKell, Thank you for not including Rothbardian Anarchists among “you people”
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Maybe Somalia is the right place for you?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Defenseless life being blended up because its parents forgot to jacket up is one area I don’t mind the State gov’t working on.
Of course there needs to be exceptions for R,I and Medical N.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Dakota, what business is it of yours what a woman does with her body?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
619.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
“Why is that?”
Because you look so MACHO in your womens activist mode.
This is a football blog and I understand it can get political but abortion….come on man.
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Stfu, do you really think I give a chit about appearing macho?
I’ll talk about whatever the hell I want to, unless the Mods disagree.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Dakota, that defenseless life is inside of a woman’s body. The only way to regulate the protection of that unborn life is to regulate the woman’s body, like she belongs to the military. She gets a sunburn, goes to prison. You don’t find that the least bit fascist?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
I don’t care what she does with her body….just the little body inside of her.
But hey, you guys concentrate on saving chickens and fish and don’t worry about babies.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Defenseless life being blended up because its parents forgot to jacket up is one area I don’t mind the State gov’t working on.
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Just what I thought, hypocrite.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Kell, ever notice how they only get mad at certain people for talking politics?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
626.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Defenseless life being blended up because its parents forgot to jacket up is one area I don’t mind the State gov’t working on.
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Just what I thought, hypocrite.
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lol, find a post where I state there is no place for either the federal government or the state government in our lives. Just one post KK. I’ll wait.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Dakota, it’s really about women in general, isn’t it? They should be in the kitchen, right? Isn’t the real reason you’re anti-abortion is because you want to take away every means possible for women getting out of being house wives? Isn’t that what it’s really about to the right? Come on. Of course it is.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
“Stfu, do you really think I give a chit about appearing macho?”
I think we can all agree you have a feminine outlook on life and you probably date a transvestite. We all know you crap your adult diapers several times a day so anything else is not really that shocking to the dedicated readers here on this blog.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
You hypocrites don’t want govt to help starving children, sick children…..but you’re all for the govt searching a woman’s uterus.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
629.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Dakota, it’s really about women in general, isn’t it? They should be in the kitchen, right? Isn’t the real reason you’re anti-abortion is because you want to take away every means possible for women getting out of being house wives? Isn’t that what it’s really about to the right? Come on. Of course it is.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Women can work all they want. My wife has an MBA.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
FACT:
Republicans originally wanted anti-abortion laws to include ALL PREGNANCIES, including rape and incest. Democrats talked them back to excluding cases of rape and incest, and it was a fight. You tell me what this is really all about.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
631.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
You hypocrites don’t want govt to help starving children, sick children…..but you’re all for the govt searching a woman’s uterus.
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Really? Post the comment where I said that please. I’ll wait again.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Most Republicans believe that if a man rapes his own wife, his property, per se, she should be forced to have that child. When she married him, she chose to be his servant for life. That’s why these guys are against abortion. Has nothing to do with the unborn child. Since when have Republicans cared about children, anyway? They make a living slashing programs that help children. They take schools away from children.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“You tell me what this is really all about.”
A bunch of grown men on a football blog talking about womens abortion rights.
You lose your “MAN” card, thats what this is really about!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Already give up on your boy, JLH?
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G123,
Higgins is an unrestricted free agent and Al Davis drafted 2 WR’s last month. that means he’s gone and the 6th WR job goes to Ausberry or NMiller (unless Chaz gets an injury settlement)
JLH isn’t going to sign a vet minimum contract to be the 5th WR and backup return guy in Oakland. He has WAY more potential than that. He’ll probably sign with the Houston Texans and Matt Schaub will make him a Pro Bowler opposite Andre Johnson!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Most Republicans believe that if a man rapes his own wife, his property, per se, she should be forced to have that child. When she married him, she chose to be his servant for life.
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Rachel Maddow tell you that?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Really? Post the comment where I said that please. I’ll wait again.
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You support the Republican party, same thing.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Anyhow, I didn’t bring up this subject but the liberal moderator seems to usually ban me when KK brings this subject up, so I am done with it for now.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
The Los Angeles Lakers are looking at former Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown as a possible successor to retired coach Phil Jackson
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LOL @ Dakota #605
seriously?
that’s sick!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Any woman can choose to abort a fetus. She owns her body and has free will. It is not a “right” in the sense that nobody else should be forced to pay for it out of their own pocket. The government should have no say in it.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
666
I can’t take seriously anybody with a 666 in their moniker.
If you don’t like it, you can log-off.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Some of your mothers probably wish they had exercised their “right” to kill lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Maverickz While you’re better off getting a great player for the Oline in the 1st 2nd rnds. I believe you reserve those rnds for skill players and I might go as far as seeing a LT as a skill player but most Olineman it’s better to get them in the 3rd rnd on IMO. Unless as I said you have a stud there (meaning rare player) because OG’s a C’s are easy to come by. The only Olineman I would defeinitely take in the 1st 2 rnds is the LT. RT’s are a dime a dozen IMO because he’s always covered by the TE. Skill players WR’s QB’s RB’s CB’s even safeties I’d try to get the best available in any draft. In most drafts you can get a very good C or G in rnds 2-5.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
644.Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Some of your mothers probably wish they had exercised their “right” to kill lol.
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A nasty retort popped into my head about South Dakota women, but, I’ll take the high road, this time.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Remember last offseason when everyone lauded the Redskins for being relatively conservative on the free agent market?
Yeah, don’t expect that to happen again.
“We prepared for various options and will be able to be as aggressive as any team in the league based on what the rules are,” Redskins G.M. Bruce Allen told Mike Jones of the Washington Post.
This hardly comes as a surprise. We passed along a note from Jones previously that the Redskins were “champing at the bit” to spend big dollars. They certainly have plenty of places to spend their dough.
We haven’t done the Redskins post-draft team checklist yet, but there are still holes on the team at quarterback, cornerback, running back, wide receiver, and the defensive line. (You could arguably throw offensive line in the mix too.)
-PFT
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Dan Snyder is going to try to buy another Championship, LOL
Nnamdi Asomugha will be the first FA signed by them!
May 20th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
KK have you ever been to the Black Hills, or any part of South Dakota for that matter?
May 20th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Only passing through on the Train.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Yes I could log off…….or I could continue to get you all riled about something you have no control over and has absolutely nothing to do with you.
We understand you are waiving your freak flag here and you want womens rights so once your sex change is completed you will feel equal. But please understand that you will never be pregnant.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
OG’s and C’s are easy to come by
RT’s are a dime a dozen
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TJ,
so basically … since we kept LT Jared Veldheer, we should have a solid O-Line next year, right?
despite having 4 new starters and 2 new coaches for the unit
May 20th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Dakota, You are mixing morality and law. What the morality is and what the law should be are two different things.
May 20th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
please understand that you will never be pregnant
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as a man, if Kell doesn’t understand that then he’s dumber than I thought
We’re talking JaMarcus intelligence here!
I’m sure he understands …
May 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
649.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Only passing through on the Train.
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You should make a trip…forget eastern SD unless you like corn. Come to the Black Hills, visit a Sioux sweat lodge, see the imperialistic icon that is Mt. Rushmore. Go fishing and hiking. It might get you out of your moods…..and I doubt those scary Raider employees will look for you here!
May 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Anybody remember that movie ‘JUNIOR’ with Arnold S and Danny Devito?
LOL!
May 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Dakota
I’m a city Injun, thanks.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
652.Twocents Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Dakota, You are mixing morality and law. What the morality is and what the law should be are two different things.
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Really? Why is it you guys complain so much about immoral bankers and corporations then? Morality and the law go hand in hand….where do you think laws come from? Actions people believe to be wrong turn into laws. I happen to think ending a defenseless human life is wrong.
I no longer support the death sentence if that makes you libs feel better lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Speaking of immoral bankers what happened to Raider O? His sleeper cell finally get busted?
May 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
And, 666, you’re definitely a real man for not discussing abortion! Defending a pederast earlier today was quite manly, too.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, immoral bankers pose a threat to someone. Women who have abortions don’t.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
656.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Dakota
I’m a city Injun, thanks.
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If you do ever visit don’t say that….you might get stabbed by an offended Native American. I think Custer said that right before a Sioux warrior cut his blz off.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
KoolKell would never go to South Dakota.
The terrain probably isn’t best for his $125 sandles, and they don’t take too kindly to people out there who tie sweaters around their waists.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Dakota, I find it interesting you’re attempting to humanize any Raider employees who might be in here threatening people, mocking the notion that they’re “scary”. Hmmm.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I am a proud parent of two abortions, lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Morality and the law go hand in hand….
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Spoken like the true American Taliban. Sahria Law.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Dakota Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Some of your mothers probably wish they had exercised their “right” to kill lol.
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Tim Tebow’s did.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
665.KoolKell Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Morality and the law go hand in hand….
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Spoken like the true American Taliban. Sahria Law.
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lol
May 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Dakota, You’re right, today, actions that the majority believe to be wrong turn into laws. Where does that get us?
Life, liberty and property (which by the way was the more common term in the 18th century) are inalienble rights. No government can rightly take them away. If you don’t have property rights in your own body then you are a slave.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Twocents Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Life, liberty and property…
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You got it….Life.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RR#651 Exactly where did I say we should have a solid line? that is quite a leap. I mentioned where I prefer to select interior lineman what does that have to do with what kind of line we’ll have next year?
I think we have good material or talent on the line whether that translates in to a good line is anybodies guess…..
May 20th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Republicans say that life begins at conception. This too is a carefully crafted statement, to vindicate their self pleasure as a form of abortion. Truth is, sperm is a living mechanism. Dakota admitted earlier he frequently played with himself as a pre teen, to completion. And, yes, he went into detail. So, it’s ok for him to waste all of that life, on his dad’s 1976 Miss Big Uns magazine, but it’s not ok for a woman who made a huge mistake with the wrong guy to get an abortion, before bringing an unwanted child onto the planet?
May 20th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
As always it has been fun debating with you guys about whether it is right or wrong to kill a baby. Have a nice weekend my liberal friends!
I am out of here.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Dakota, you live on native land, acquired through the barbaric murders of thousands upon thousands of natives. Don’t act like you care about life. You crap on life every day, literally.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
671.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Republicans say that life begins at conception. This too is a carefully crafted statement, to vindicate their self pleasure as a form of abortion. Truth is, sperm is a living mechanism. Dakota admitted earlier he frequently played with himself as a pre teen, to completion. And, yes, he went into detail. So, it’s ok for him to waste all of that life, on his dad’s 1976 Miss Big Uns magazine, but it’s not ok for a woman who made a huge mistake with the wrong guy to get an abortion, before bringing an unwanted child onto the planet?
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Yeah I am a mass mass mass murderer then lol.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Don’t let Dakota get to you. He’s just a little archaic when it comes to women. Thinks they should be in the kitchen.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
673.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Dakota, you live on native land, acquired through the barbaric murders of thousands upon thousands of natives. Don’t act like you care about life. You crap on life every day, literally.
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Lol, is that really the best you got….comparing blending up defenseless babies to land taken from people who had the ability to fight for themselves?
Bit of a stretch. But hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
It took a lot of “baby killing”, along with the killing of several adults, Dakota, to acquire the land you live on. To this day you mock the native peoples who once lived there. So don’t give us this crap about the value of life. Your ancestors shot native American babies in the head for the fun of it. And you couldn’t care less.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Later Dakota.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
The way things are going nowadays I’m willing to bet some would prefer to afford to be in the kitchen.
Not all women just some, working for a living aint no joke……..period
May 20th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Dakota, I am not a fan of women who use abortion as a method of birth control. When the government legislates morality, whether it is abortion, or polical correctness or what you can put into your own body then you are on the road to totalitarianism.
Are we there yet?
May 20th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Dakota valued life when Bush ordered “shock and awe”. valued it so much he cheered as American planes bombed innocent Iraqi children…for nothing.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Exactly, twocents. The only way to enforce abortion laws is to regulate the female body. It’s impossible to regulate a citizen’s body in a free society. You can’t have both.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RAIDER, I’m glad we agree on this issue. But I suspect that we don’t have the same agreement on property rights.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Frankly, this stuff is too much for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
May 20th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Why someone would segue from a discussion on abortion to a discussion on property rights is probably what I would disagree with in and of itself. If you’re suspecting that I don’t believe someone’s property is more important than a citizen’s body, a woman’s body, in this case, you’re correct.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Someone thinking their property is more valuable than the freedom of any individual citizen is exactly what’s wrong with this country, imo.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
KoolKell, I would suggest that you read anything by Murray Rothbard. But my experience has been that those of the socialist persuasion just don’t get it.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
R.I.P Macho Man Randy Savage. Tonight, I’m going to eat a Slim Jim.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Raider, What does my property have anything to do with your freedom?
May 20th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Tonight, I’m going to eat a Slim Jim.
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While we’re on the subject of Freudian slips…
May 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
687.Twocents Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
KoolKell, I would suggest that you read anything by Murray Rothbard. But my experience has been that those of the socialist persuasion just don’t get it.
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My reading here indicates Anarchy is a socialist movement
Some individualist anarchists are also socialists[13][14] while some anarcho-communists are also individualists.[15][16] The position known as anarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
May 20th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
The anti-authoritarian sections of the First International were the precursors of the anarcho-syndicalists, seeking to “replace the privilege and authority of the State” with the “free and spontaneous organization of labor.”[56] In 1886, the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions (FOTLU) of the United States and Canada unanimously set 1 May 1886, as the date by which the eight-hour work day would become standard.[57]
May 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Two Cents, I would suggest reading any book that covers American history from 1980-present, to see how those with the capitalist persuasion just don’t get it.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
KoolKell, How can a socialist, in any way, be for individual freedom? Socialism is all about the state, the “greater good”. The ruling elite decides what the “greater good” is, and it is in every case what is good for the state.
May 20th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
690.RAIDER Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Tonight, I’m going to eat a Slim Jim.
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While we’re on the subject of Freudian slips…
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Took a company trying to break into the snack food business and brought it to national fame on his fame and personality. “Oh YaH!
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May 20th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Twocents Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
KoolKell, How can a socialist, in any way, be for individual freedom? Socialism is all about the state, the “greater good”.
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I posted a Wiki Link, ok?
May 20th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Raider, You are confusing the the big business interests of today (those that buy influence with the state to aquire a priveledged monopoly) with a free market economy. Just investgate the bailouts in the last few years. Those that are usefull to the state get money, those that are not, are allowed to fail.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
“Everything I know about this game is directly attributable to what I learned working with Al Davis,” says Wolf, 58, the general manager of the Packers and the man who traded for Brett Favre and signed Reggie White. “I still think when it comes to every facet of the game of football, he’s the best there is in the National Football League.”
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Hey Scott, how does this taste?
Really though MR, why are you laying so low. Ya need to get out and get some Sunshine.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Those that are usefull to the state get money, those that are not, are allowed to fail.
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When you use pejorative terms like the state, it’s easier to demonize.
This is a democracy, and the most unregulated one at that, in the Free World.
There’s a Billion people on the planet. We need rules & regulations that might infringe on the individual for the betterment of the whole.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
I see no credible signs the worldd is moving towards stateless anarchy.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
And in closing, I would just like to say that the reason I rant about all this is because I’m afraid.
I am afraid of what the future holds. A society that has lost it’s way. We face a future in which we have lost all our freedoms. The majority of people today depend on a handout from the government, whether it is welfare, foodstamps, social security, medicare or any of the other umpteen social programs the government provides.
The problem is, the government is broke, it is over extended. It can’t possibly deliver on all it’s promises.
But I’m sure it will blame someone else for it’s failures. I’m sure the majority will go along with whatever the state say’s. What choice do they have?
May 20th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Conspiracy theories, whether Fed Conspiracy theories, NFL conspiracy theories, Govt conspiracy theories, and the people who tout them, reflect an Un-empowered spirit.
I tell the same thing to black people, who give up, because the white man is keeping them down.
It’s weak-minded.
May 20th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Yes We Can!
May 20th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
I am Somebody!
May 20th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Life experiences teach you things whether negative or positive and you will live by way of those experiences. Telling someone you can do this is great but what has his experiences taught him?
It needs to be demonstrated to them, how to make things happen. Most times it’s simple mindblocks that would make you laugh but in their lives it’s very real.
You cannot take a Trailor Park resident into a board room and expect him to compete. Because their speaking a different langauge and tehior experiences are otherworldy to that person. You must make it practical and real to them to get them to respond. Or else it’s just chatter.
Now take the movie “Trading Places” if you took a kid literally off the street and gave him real life experiences in a board room setting where he could learn to communicate and understand whatever business plan being discussed you’d be surprised how quickly people adapt. But they have to have had real life experiences and given time to view things the way you do.
That’s why you have these rappers become business moguls with no real formal training. Look at Magic Johnson he’s got his hands in everything. I can gaurantee you he didn’t graduate from Mich St. He learned to adapt and adjust based on real life experiences.
May 20th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Priesttj, So if you are saying that individuals, with liberty, will produce the best results, I agree whole heartedly.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
It’s been bashed around in here a little bit that if Mr. Davis wanted to/was able to attend and be a part of the labor negotiations then things would be fixed sooner rather than later.
While I agree, I’m not sure some of the owners would want him there. This article doesn’t mention him or Gene Upshaw, but it does mention owners knowing they made a “bad deal” for themselves but not realizing until years later.
I don’t think Al has the trust of the owners like he did in ‘06.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/20/owners-continue-to-wallow-in-their-2006-blunder/
May 20th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
A 1st inning run, without a hit.
Welcome to championship baseball Cahill.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
The 400 wealthiest individuals control more wealth than 150 million Americans combined, and these fools are complaining about socialism. The class war is over, my friends. The rich won.
May 20th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Well thank God the poor didn’t win
May 20th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
They predicted that 15 years ago… there would be ultrs rich and poor the middle class is non-existant.
May 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
The Republicans want to turn America into Dickensian England.
“Buy a flower, guvner?”
May 20th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
priesttj Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
They predicted that 15 years ago… there would be ultrs rich and poor the middle class is non-existant.
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The Middle Class, never were richer than under Clinton days… and never been poorer than after 8 years with Bush…
Its actually interesting how fast it all can get turned upside-down…
May 20th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
708.edward teach Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/20/owners-continue-to-wallow-in-their-2006-blunder/
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The Neo Cons (”con” being the operative)blatant agenda is to roll back Lyndon B. Johnson’s “Great Society” legislation which included PBS, civil rights, medicare, medicaid, the EPA ect.
They hated that had to make those concessions in order to get their war.
BTW, alot of the same people responsible for Vietnam are responsible for todays wars.
Republican voters are not being represented by the people the install yet they keep voting the party line. Ironically, the very same Glen Beck lovin’ tea party havin’ oldersters who represent the majority who voted Red last time are the ones who’ll be hurt the most by these ugly, greedy, spiteful Repub roll backs.
Why do I feel this way?
Repubs bish about the poor getting hand outs when they who need it the least enjoy BILLIONS in Gov hand outs and pay less or nothing into the the system.
Wake up America. You been robbed of your money, your privacy, your health, your future.
May 21st, 2011 at 3:22 am
Interesting posts.
May 21st, 2011 at 6:21 am
Wake up America. You been robbed of your money, your privacy, your health, your future.
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My life gets better each day.
I’ve never made more money than what I will make this year, I have never had an issue with privacy, my health is what I make of it, and my future has never looked better.
May 21st, 2011 at 6:27 am
They should let people have the option to opt out of Social Security.
I can put that money into my ROTH, instead of paying into something, I most assuredly won’t get anything out of.
On the Social Security annual letter of benefits, it states right there that they won’t have enough money to pay full benefits after 2037. At that time, I will still be 11 years away from eligibility for full benefits. So why can’t I not pay into it if I want, or why do I have to make full payments, when I won’t get full benefits?
Social Security IS THE EXACT SAME SYSTEM that Bernie Madoff ran. Obviously the intentions are much different, but the program is the same type of Ponzi scheme.
May 21st, 2011 at 6:28 am
Oh yeah……….
GO GIANTS!!!!!
May 21st, 2011 at 6:40 am
Wow…Thought I’d accidentally logged on to the NY Times blog again…lol. Some good heavy palaver last night I see. How can you tell the lockout’s on?
Bob Wylie is a good addition to the Raiders’ staff…Really understands blocking schemes and is a good teacher. I’ve seen his lines play well for years up here in the tundra. Only problem is…What the hell will he have to coach? I can’t recall an o-line facing so much uncertainty and potential change of personnel. The longer the lockout is in effect, the more it hurts this situation as well. Anyone who has played the game knows you win or lose in the trenches first and foremost.
May 21st, 2011 at 6:58 am
Just Fire Baby: Re: post#718…Yeah, it’s scary. A rapidly aging western population without the birth rates to compensate combined with horrendous government debt levels doesn’t speak well for the future security of the current work force. A few European nations have either raised the retirement age or are about to for the same reasons. This will be coming here all too soon.
Go Sharks!…Go Bruins!
May 21st, 2011 at 8:30 am
Wylie certainly is behind the eightball for this year.
If the guy is any good at his job, he seems to have a lot of talent to work with moving forward, and things SHOULD work out in the long run.
But he also has youth, overall inexperience, inexperience at these new positions (Barksdale probably moving to RT, Wiz at C, Campbell at RG), a more than likely condenced training camp, and Al’s overall lack of patience working against him.
Good luck mushroom man!!!
May 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am
Jfb, good post on 718. Each person should be charged with saving their own money in whatever fashion they please.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:02 am
Just Fire Baby, you’re still young. When you get older and you need more health care you’ll understand what people are talking about.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:06 am
Every GM knows this is an unusual situation the demands will be accordingly each teams struggles obviously will be as well. These are different times and everyone will trying to navigate as best they can continuity is of utmost importance now.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:07 am
The reason why they don’t let you opt out of social security is because when you get old and realize you need it, they’ll end up giving it to you anyway. It saves them the paperwork.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:12 am
CanuckRaider, I can only speak for the United States, not the entire “western world”, but we’re only in debt because of the Iraq War. What we need to do is slap the private contractors something like a 90% tax rate. 90% of what they’re doing is useless anyway. It was a scam. They’re paving roads in the middle of nowhere in Iraq, that nobody will ever use, just to make it look like they’re putting the money to work. That’s just scraping the surface.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
How would the labor negotiations be settled if Al were more involved? What would he do?
May 21st, 2011 at 10:21 am
Mr Davis could bridge the gap between owners young and old. Same as he has always done then get the owners to understand the need to have semi-happy players. The bottom line is very important but not at the expense of the league itself.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mr Davis has always understood the need to pay the players afterall they are the game. Some owners are only interested in the business aspect but without players you have no business. The Bidwills have never thought enough about the game to know that players your inventory and gthey better players you have the better quality of your inventory.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:36 am
priest, my question was, what specifically would Mr. Davis do to settle the dispute?
May 21st, 2011 at 10:39 am
And how the hell would you expect someone in here to know that?
All we know is he has been very instrumental in doing so in the past…
May 21st, 2011 at 10:40 am
If you don’t know exactly what he would do to settle the dispute, how could you say for certain he’s capable of doing anything?
May 21st, 2011 at 10:42 am
I should’ve known better…
Adios!!!
May 21st, 2011 at 10:45 am
Yeah, you should have known there might be commenters here who will fact check you on your Al worshiping b.s.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:50 am
priesttj Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mr Davis has always understood the need to pay the players afterall they are the game.
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Let’s ask Nnamdi Asomugha about that.
May 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
Horacio Hornblower a conversation with you is like watching the or even experiencing the movie 50 first dates… Duh! OK now answer the question this way now that way because I’ll never understand any answer you give. So keep answering until you totally exhuast the English language.
Get a life Horacio!
May 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
Aww, is somebody mad because people just won’t buy his delusional attributes to Al Davis? Al would settle the negotiations…lmao. Right. Still waiting on one single example as to exactly what he’d do to settle it. As far as the players liking him because he pays them well, let’s ask Nnamdi about that.
May 21st, 2011 at 11:04 am
I’d rather watch grass grow……..move on!
May 21st, 2011 at 11:07 am
Aww, ok, priest. Want me to pretend to believe you? Will it make you feel better? OK. I’ll play along.
Wow, priest, you’re right! We do need Al Davis to get in there and settle this thing! He’ll go in there and wave a wand, and suddenly everything will be settled, because he’s the great Al Davis and the players love him and the owners fear him! Yeah! Yeah!
Better?
May 21st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
How FAT are you, MR?
May 21st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:
May 20th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
“Everything I know about this game is directly attributable to what I learned working with Al Davis,” says Wolf, 58, the general manager of the Packers and the man who traded for Brett Favre and signed Reggie White. “I still think when it comes to every facet of the game of football, he’s the best there is in the National Football League.”
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Hey Scott, how does this taste?
Really though MR, why are you laying so low. Ya need to get out and get some Sunshine.
May 21st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Al Davis can’t even settle disputes in his own building, let alone a large scale labor dispute.
May 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Coach Davis will emerge a clear winner because of his compassion towards the game and the players. When the owners and the league can come to no conclusions, they will turn to Coach. But they must fail miserably first, which they’ve already done but won’t admit it.
So in the meantime, Coach can just sit back and wave his middle finger at the nfl clowns and conspirators and know when the season starts, he’s already miles ahead.
May 21st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
739.priesttj Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 11:04 am
I’d rather watch grass grow……..move on!
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There’s a lot to be said of watching grass grow especially if you’ve got a six pack or whatever.
May 21st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
741.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
How FAT are you, MR?
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I take it that you’re asking about his head.
I think the answer is in the Guiness World Book of Records and there are no challengers to match Mr.
May 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
743.RAIDER Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Al Davis can’t even settle disputes in his own building, let alone a large scale labor dispute.
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Wrong again Mr. Al helped settle the last NFL dispute.
May 21st, 2011 at 5:02 pm
744.Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Coach Davis will emerge a clear winner because of his compassion towards the game and the players. When the owners and the league can come to no conclusions, they will turn to Coach. But they must fail miserably first, which they’ve already done but won’t admit it.
So in the meantime, Coach can just sit back and wave his middle finger at the nfl clowns and conspirators and know when the season starts, he’s already miles ahead.
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Did you write that before or after you licked his butt?
Are you aware that Al Davis doesn’t like sycophants?
May 21st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
737.priesttj Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
Horacio Hornblower a conversation with you is like watching the or even experiencing the movie 50 first dates… Duh! OK now answer the question this way now that way because I’ll never understand any answer you give. So keep answering until you totally exhuast the English language.
Get a life Horacio!
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Why are you picking on Horatio Hornblower Priest?
He was at the battle of Trafalger.
I read it in a book.
May 21st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
721.CanuckRaider Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 6:58 am
Just Fire Baby: Re: post#718…Yeah, it’s scary. A rapidly aging western population without the birth rates to compensate combined with horrendous government debt levels doesn’t speak well for the future security of the current work force. A few European nations have either raised the retirement age or are about to for the same reasons. This will be coming here all too soon.
Go Sharks!…Go Bruins!
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You’re not wrong there.
The retirement age of 65 originates from Bismarck in the 19th Century who worked out a retirement for Germans.
Not too many Germans were able to take advantage of retirement….they were too busy invading France and accepting all those surrenders.
May 21st, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Where the fuk is everybody?!
Hey Norco Bob! Are you out there, you jackarse 49′r fan?!
May 21st, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I’m here always reading rarely posting………..\
743.RAIDER Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Al Davis can’t even settle disputes in his own building, let alone a large scale labor dispute.
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funny after Upshaw passed Al took a back seat and now look where we are…..
May 21st, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Jerry Mac, please write another short article so we don’t have to plough through 750 posts.
Thanks,
Kirk
May 21st, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Where is everybody at??
I know yall didn’t get saved!
I’m still alive…so what does that mean?
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 am
Jackson also said Van Dyke can do more than cover. He said, “The thing I like about him is that he’s feisty. I mean, this guy will stick his body in there. He’s not afraid to tackle. He played on special teams and made numerous plays. I’m very excited about him, what he’ll bring to the table.”
New Gunner?
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:04 am
745.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
739.priesttj Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 11:04 am
I’d rather watch grass grow……..move on!
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There’s a lot to be said of watching grass grow especially if you’ve got a six pack or whatever.
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Couldn’t agree more.
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:33 am
Is anyone going to pay Nnamdi more than the 4 yrs 46 million Revis got from the Jets?
Nnamdi should take that same contract with us.
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:40 am
#1- Why would Nmadi want to stay in Oak? Hes never even sniffed the playoffs. Hes not dumb, he knows hes made his money and wants to win…hes gone. Cant blame him either. I predict he rejoins his boy Chucky Dub in GB.
#2- Who is “us”??
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:10 am
I believe Nnamdi will end up in either Philly, NE or Minny.
No way Green Bay will offer him that type of money. Besides they have two young corners, Shields and Tramon Williams, who may be just a minor step below Nnamdi, and they cost about 90% less than what Nnamdi would.
I think he will get 5 years 50 million. More overall money, but a tad less per year than Revis.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 am
I’d be very surprised to see Nnamdi sign somewhere else for 10 million a year.
You don’t think he’d give Davis a chance to match that?
Davis could’ve traded him to the Jets last year, but Nnamdi wanted to stay. Why leave now, and for less $?
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:21 am
I have always believed Al will have to offer MORE for Nnamdi to consider staying here.
If New England or Philly offers the same amount of money, he won’t think twice about it, IMO.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:25 am
Pundits thinking Nnam may end up in Philly MUST not know how CHEAP Philly is!
Forgetabouit!
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:30 am
Philly has a new stadium, and plenty of room with their payroll.
Whether they choose to use it or not, who knows. But they have the resources and the need, to sign him.
That’s where I formed my opinion from.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:33 am
I would think most of the NFL football talk should revolve around settling this dispute between owners and players.
It’s hard for me to get into how we’re gonna do against Green Bay, Chicago and Denver and if we’re gonna be a “bully” or not when we’re not even sure there’s gonna be a season or not.
NFL Network and ESPN goes on with their analysis and breakdowns of the clubs as if it’s a done deal they’re all gonna work this out in plenty of time. I’m not feeling the same optimism.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 am
751.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Where the fuk is everybody?!
Hey Norco Bob! Are you out there, you jackarse 49′r fan?!
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I think Norco got banned. He was threatening to “find” everybody who says anything negative about him, and show up at their jobs etc.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Man I kid you not …Its getting harder for me to comprehend how people survive making so litte $$$.
When I first started working I made $40K/year and that was just me. Looking back at that, which was about 6yrs ago, its interesting how I managed. But you have stats out there that show total median HOUSEHOLD income of 50K – thats with more than 1 worker in the house – about 2 sometimes more.
Now, I’m pushin the upper quartiles. Although my cost of living has increased substantially given where I currently live, some things have noticably changed wih comforts, access, etc. But still, even making this money its not enough. I can’t imagine making 40K again. 50K for a household I just don’t know how it can be done. I guess you have to do what you have to do
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:41 am
JFB – Dude, trust me, Philly is nortoriously cheap. Many players had to LEAVE Philly to get their payday. Notable includes the late Reggie White. Westbrook had to fight, stratch and claw to get his pay on.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
But didn’t Asante Samuel go to Philly and get a huge contract?
I don’t think the old Eagles, when they were playing at the Vet, is comparable to the Jeff Lurie, Lincoln field Eagles.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
hmmmmm…. Gabby must not work during the lock out… Morning Nation….
I am honestly 50/50 on losing Aso I want him to stay so bad now that our offense is going to be improved to keep the D off the field a little and he has more talent around him… but on the same hand man o man is that a lot of scrill to spend else where.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Hope Aso satys. Without him there is less of a commitment to excellence.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:11 am
34.KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
I told the police as much.
HAHAHAHAHA Thanks for the best laugh I have had in days. LA tothe Bay or Dakota need to do one of those “sketches” where Al worries about KK
Al: Have you seen Jerr’s blog today? That hateful ingrate named KK called me names again! I thought I told you to take care of him
Herrea: We have tried Al but the man is super sneaky. He never comes out of the house but we can get our hands on his wife the white sasquatch.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:17 am
JFB I agree Nnamdi going to Philly or NE. I suspected the Pats for a long time know. I am pretty sure his mom lives there and thats where her charity work takes place. Nnamdi is real big on that.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
Damn, that would suck that Nnamdi going to the Pats and Al didnt even get a draft pick in return. Couldnt we have swapped Logan Mankins for Nnamdi last year? effin Al. Another bizarre day in Raider Land.
With the high drafting of Van Dyky and big contract to Routt, I have a hard time believing Nnamdi will come back. No way he accepts the same money as Routt knowing he is sooooo much better.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Reggie White. LOL. What was that, 20 years ago? Does Philadelphia even have the same management today?
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
I used to live near Philly. Even thier fans know they are cheap and rarely pay their players. I just don’t see it happening.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Nnamdi deserves to go to a competitive team.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Keep in mind that the reason Nnamdi is leaving in the first place is because the Raiders won’t pay him what he’s worth. I wouldn’t go so far as to call the Raiders cheap, considering Al’s recent trend of giving average (at best) players record setting salaries, but the Raiders certainly seem to have a problem giving deserving contracts to players they need the most. So, when it comes to key players, the Raiders can be cheap, too. It’s a bizarre way of running a team. It’s ineffective, as well, as the Raiders are one of the perennial losers in this league. But it’s the Raiders.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Dallas and Baltimore seem like the most likely scenarios for Asomugha. One being a high-profile team in desperate need of CB help who will not hesitate to break bank for him, and the other being a team that can contend for a Super Bowl immediately where he would be surrounded by veterans like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Derrick Mason.
Eagles, 49ers, Lions and Giants could also be in the mix.
Don’t see the Pats, Jets or Redskins being serious contenders for Nnamdi’s services.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
“The Raiders wont pay him what he is worth”
Somethings never change and you can bet your last dollar moron Raider will always utter ignorant statements.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
With out Nnamdi, Raiders will suffer.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Nnamdi is OVER RATED.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The Raiders will suffer with Nnamdi, as well, Commitment. As long as Al’s in charge, the Raiders will suffer. That’s something every sane Raider fan has come to terms with. And then, of course, there’s the fans who haven’t come to terms with it…
I just wish Al were at least enough like other owners to keep his aces. So that when when he is gone, the new GM has something to build on. Instead, he’ll be starting from scratch.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Just like Woodson was “overrated”, just like Gruden was “overrated”. Both went on to hug Lombardi trophies shortly after leaving Oakland, while Oakland continued to implode.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
It’s Al Davis’s ability to run a team that’s “overrated”. Especially in here.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 pm
I’d still rather have seen Nnamdi paid than Routt, because at least you know exactly what you’re getting with Nnamdi.
I don’t know how you have the #2 passing defense in the league and still give up 30 TDs through the air. And I don’t know how after that, you lose the one player that gave up 0 TDs.
It would be one thing if Routt came cheaply in comparison to Nnamdi, but the Raiders are still going to pay $10 million a year for a guy who has only established himself as a starting-caliber player in one season of his career – which was also a contract year.
That said, if the Raiders DO try to use “Nnamdi’s money” to go after quality free agents, I would mind it much less. Santonio Holmes, Tyson Clabo, Harvey Dahl, Antonio Cromartie, and Manny Lawson could all help the team in various ways. I don’t think that’s the direction they’re going to go.
The only way I can see this working out in the Raiders’ favor is that teams will stop spending the entire game going after one guy, forcing opposing QBs to actually survey the whole field before making a throw. Maybe it’ll allow the secondary to make more plays on the ball? Who knows. The Raiders haven’t been too much better or worse in the few games Nnamdi has been injured, so they could be alright.
If the defense can learn to stop the run consistently, it won’t matter nearly as much. That, however, is something I see as a weakness in the defensive scheme, which won’t change any time soon.
May 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RMR having conversations with himself, I see.
May 22nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
YA, agree. However it sickens me to see a proven corner let go when his value is without question. Maybe the grand puhbah has something up his sleeve that won’t be revealed until the nfl is back.
May 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
aig-raiders Says:
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
Damn, that would suck that Nnamdi going to the Pats and Al didnt even get a draft pick in return. Couldnt we have swapped Logan Mankins for Nnamdi last year?
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You got to remember that if Nnamdi leaves, we will get a compensatory 3rd round pick for him (unless new CBA rules change that). And really, a 3rd round pick is about what we would have gotten for Nnamdi in a trade anyways, because his contract was so out of whack.
But maybe we could have gotten Mankins (not completely sure), another Pro Bowl level player with major salary issues.
May 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Well said, Commitment. After all, according to YA, you’re me. So represent me well. LOL.
May 22nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Nnamdi is by defination is the commitment to excellence, also pride and poise. Losing him is not good. But right now he is not under contract with another team, so maybe the architect of all things Raiders has a plan for him.
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Good point. Nobody in the Raiders’ organization, on the field or off, personifies the “commitment to excellence” slogan more than Nnamdi Asomugha. Leave it to some in that organization to refer to him as overrated…
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
The Raiders lost Nnamdi because the front office mismanaged the situation and tried to hold on to the dream. A more foreward looking front office would have traded him once they realized they couldn’t re-sign him at a more agreeable salary….see Patriots with Richard Seymour.
The Raiders should NOT overpay for Nnamdi. Just suck it up and move on. But make no mistake, that secondary is going to be bad next year. Its up to the front 7 to get at the QB….without that…the Raiders will get scorched on both sides of the field instead of just 1
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
I told the police as much.
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Kell, you need to protect yourself!
You need to create a dossier with all the information you have on the Raider plot to get you, and then make five copies of said dossier and place them in banks around the world, and then contact several lawyers with instructions to be opened upon your untimely demise!
They are watching you! Be careful!
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This is PURE COMEDY GOLD! Time to write a movie about this blog…
May 22nd, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Wow,I see mr is talkin with mrs,and mrs is talkin to dan land,land is bsin with raider,raider is waiting for paine,all of them the SAME POSTER,mrs/mr! Weak
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
You just can’t accept the fact that there’s more than one Raider fan in the world who doesn’t like Al Davis, can you? I’ve got news for you. Most Raider fans don’t like him. You’re on the short list of fans who still do. In fact, it’s more likely that it’s Al’s worshipers here that are the ones commenting under several screennames, when they’re really just 2 or 3 people. As the saying goes, “It takes a thief…”
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
I think those empty stadiums week after week ought to tell you that there’s more than one Davis critic in the Raider nation hitting the blogs and voicing their opinion. Wuddya think?
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
BTW, you notice how Dirty Raccoon never backs up the argument that all of Al’s critics are one person? He’s found a way to track our ip addresses. He knows we’re not the same person. That’s why he’s always mum and slinks away whenever people like you make this charge. He knows it’s b.s., but he doesn’t want to rain on your parade because you guys are in the same bunker, so he stays mute. lol
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Its not a warning, its a THREAT! Lewsi means if theirs now football HE’LL commit more crimes!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Ray-Lewis-thinks-crime-will-increase-if-NFL-has-?urn=nfl-wp2110
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
BTW, you notice how Dirty Raccoon never backs up the argument that all of Al’s critics are one person? He’s found a way to track our ip addresses. He knows we’re not the same person. That’s why he’s always mum and slinks away whenever people like you make this charge. He knows it’s b.s., but he doesn’t want to rain on your parade because you guys are in the same bunker, so he stays mute. lol
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Multiple computers, posting from a public WiFi, posting from a hand held ie Blackberry, ect ect. We KNOW RMR et al multi trolls and its beyond pathetic.
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
@ 785, good points that you made Y.A.
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The people that stalk me, call my office, threaten me etc, I’m pretty sure are connected with the Raiders.
I told the police as much.
Dakota Says:
May 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Kell, you need to protect yourself!
You need to create a dossier with all the information you have on the Raider plot to get you, and then make five copies of said dossier and place them in banks around the world, and then contact several lawyers with instructions to be opened upon your untimely demise!
They are watching you! Be careful!
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Thats not the Raiders watching you, its the Federal Gov. The average American is tracked by over 200 data bases EVERY DAY.
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Did KK actually post that the Oakland Raiders are trying to get him????hahahahha…………….that is downright laughable.
There is really something going in that guys head….man now the stuff he says makes some sense. He really is outta touch with reality…the boy needs serious help. What’s next the Pope bugged his phone?
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Jeez you guys, give KK a break, he can’t post comments right now because he is busy zooming around in the space shuttle.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Boy all these suedo prophets how do you know the Raiders secondary will be bad SnB…..how do you know that?
We don’t know a thing until we see it, now I give my best guess on a lot of things sometimes it’s educated sometimes not. But for you to say with out a doubt something will be such and such is presumptuous at best. Just give your opinion man and leave it at that.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
I for one believe Al and Nnamdi have already worked out a plan for the best corner in the NFL. They just have to wait until the season gets back on track. Al just cannot let Aso walk for nothing. And isn’t it true Al only snubbs players when they are in his dogghouse? Nnamdi hasn’t done anything to deserve that so I have to believe he will be back.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Priesttj,
Unless someone steps up big time….to suggest a team can lose a Pro-Bowl elite CB in this system and a Single High Safety that this same team has had a hard time replacing is not realistic.
Maybe I shouldn’t of used the word “Will” be bad….but I am not going to sit here and think that a Chris Johnson/Walter McFAdden or DVD is going to come in and “replace” Nnamdi in the immediate term.
Gotta give those kids time…..they will “most likely” struggle in the beginning.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Man I never knew just how delusional KK was, but that post does explain a lot……..I always wondered was he as off as I thought, and yeah he is….
Man KK go see someone and get help man………but don’t let people know you’re that bad off.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Yeah no one expects to get the same level of play game in game out. But no one knows how much it will affect the team until we see it. I’ll tell you what a good FS can make a secondary, if Branch is what I think he is it could make a huge difference.
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
I think we are going to see even more dynamic play from the Front 7 to get at the QB.
Branch at Safety should work well. He’s got speed, a cornerback background and can hit. I actually like him. Not worried about safety as much as I am about the Cornerback.
The pass defense gave up 30 TDs last year….not good….Nnamdi gave up 0 of those.
That is cause for concern
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:36 pm
ahh, good point JFB on the compensatory pick.
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
You can do a lot of things to protect young secondaries, zones, dogs, blitz packages a # of things until they get better. Trust be a lot worse secondaries. These kids can play it just takes time to gel on a consistent basis. DVD is a lot better player than people think the kid can play. So can Chekwa….they’re just young and they’ll have some rough spots.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:15 pm
766.TerrapinRaider Says:
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Man I kid you not …Its getting harder for me to comprehend how people survive making so litte $$$.
When I first started working I made $40K/year and that was just me. Looking back at that, which was about 6yrs ago, its interesting how I managed. But you have stats out there that show total median HOUSEHOLD income of 50K – thats with more than 1 worker in the house – about 2 sometimes more.
Now, I’m pushin the upper quartiles. Although my cost of living has increased substantially given where I currently live, some things have noticably changed wih comforts, access, etc. But still, even making this money its not enough. I can’t imagine making 40K again. 50K for a household I just don’t know how it can be done. I guess you have to do what you have to do
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People who get assitance have to make $12 thousand or LESS.
The ultimate hypocrisy of Republicans cutting medicare caid and soc sec is the massive trillions they’ve given corporate welfare.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
811.priesttj Says:
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
You can do a lot of things to protect young secondaries, zones, dogs, blitz packages a # of things until they get better. Trust be a lot worse secondaries. These kids can play it just takes time to gel on a consistent basis. DVD is a lot better player than people think the kid can play. So can Chekwa….they’re just young and they’ll have some rough spots.
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Yeah, zones and blitzes sound just like Raider D. Priest, you’ve shown time and again you know next to nothign of whence you speak when it comes to the game or talent evaluation.
If the Raiders pass rush shows up again this year yes, but nothing is a given.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Can’t see Al not wanting to retain Nnamdi, unless he’s upset with him on a personal level.
With the amount of man coverage the Raids employ, Nnamdi’s ability to single and shut down a rcvr is especially valuable.
Could be that Aso doesn’t want to be a Raider. Haven’t heard #21 say that all things being equal he’d like to remain a Raider.
Honestly, that doesn’t sit well with me. Probably doesn’t make Davis happy either. Let’s not forget that Davis was ridiculed for the exorbitant salary he paid Nnamdi. That might engender a little loyalty or at least enough for Aso to express a preference to stay with the team that rewarded him so well.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Just hopin Al has a trick or two up his sleeve, cause he gonna need it if Nnamdi ain’t comin back. But I believe he will be back. Al may be looney, but he ain’t stupid.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
It was reported last year at a Giants game that Nnamdi and Seymour spent alot of time conversing on how to build the Raiders and what they have accomplished so far. In addition, what they want to do next. My take is Nnamdi was in Cable’s corner and Cable’s release was something Nnamdi prob let Al Davis know he is not happy and not wanting to come back. I would not be surprised at all.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Very observant #816. Sure hope that is not the case, but very well could be indeed. That would be par for the course if true, and disgusting that Al would take Nnamdis’ liking of Cable so personal that he’d dog house him.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
817,
1. We know that Al Davis would never let one of his prized draft pick go until he has no other options. Case in point, CWood got a couple of franchise tag and finally got his exit wish by refusing to play.
2. We also know that AD will diss you so fast the moment he feels you are not loyal to him. The only guy that I can remember him making the exception for is Tim Brown. But Brown never burned his bridge either with AD.
Therefore my assumption was Nnamdi told him he was gone the moment Cable was fired. Lechler warned about a few key players and Gallery/Nnamd are prob on that list. That explained why he was rough in treating Gallery’s exit and was backhanding Nnamdi’s contract by talking about using it to sign multiple players. I can’t imagine any Raider fan would think that the money used on Routt and Eugene were better than signing Nnamdi.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
It would really suck to see #21 go to SF and help them make the playoffs. Those Whiners are pretty darn close to making the playoff in that lousy division.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
GoodOle00 why don’t you tell us better then? Since i don’t know a damn theing show me better..
Tell us your story about who can and who can’t smart guy…
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
I’ll test my skills vs you any day GoodOle00 and we’ll see who’s right and who’s wrong.
Break our draft down and tell who we got or what we got then tell us what players in this draft around the league will do what?
We’ll document both and see who knows what.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Goodole00 I’ll give you 24 hours to answer with your picks and players if not I’ll assume I know a helluva lot more than you do.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Well…It would seem that “prophets” just aren’t what they used to be…We’re all still here…No “Rapture” after-all…Unless it did go down and I wasn’t invited…Hmmmm.
Re: post #727 – No argument there MR. Haliburton, among others, has made a fortune in Iraq. Just ask Chaney.
Re: post #750 – Interesting info ENGLANDRAIDER. I wasn’t aware of that…and we all know how that worked out eh?
Re: post #751 – I thought Norco got mugged on the BART. Word is the dude got some killer weed off him.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:37 pm
You still there Aig? Try any good brews lately?
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:01 pm
For any Floyd fans: Listening to “Meddled” right now. Recorded live at the BBC in 1971. Mind blowing performance and great sound quality. Soundboard recording. If you can find it get it.
Track listing:
Fat Old Sun
One Of These Days
Echoes
Embryo
Blues
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
I believe Nnamdi was expect to show the leadership we are seeing from Seymour when he was signed.That could be one of the reasons the old man is willing to let him walk,if in fact that is the case.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Nnamdi’s one of the, if not the, best CBs in the game and I hate the prospect of losing him but without other good cover CBs on our defense other teams will just continue to throw everywhere else but at him. If we can sign 2 or 3 solid defensive starters for the money we’d have to pay him, we just might be better off going this way. I’ll sure miss him though…Great player and a class act.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Lefty12, I totally agree when he pays a guy that kind of money he’s looking for more the bets cover corner in the game. He’s looking and paying for leadership the kind that Seylour and camp are providing. Nnamdi did tons in the community but he was never a real leader in the lockerroom. He sometimes spoke out which is good but outside of the secondary he never demanded much from his teammates.
Seymour has shown more leadership in the time that he’s been here than Nnamdi entire career. He has to put the money where he knows he gets the best return. If Camp ends up leading this team on the field. The contract he’ll get after this season will be twice what he would’ve gotten in an extension. But it has to show on the field.
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:53 pm
GoodOle00
I know you’re out there dude man up!!!
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:55 pm
people always wanna make excuses for naamdi but lets look at him. al davis told us at the hue jack presser that he had a possible deal for aso and asked him if he wanted to stay. nam said yes and thats why he wasnt traded. aso’s contract voided cuz he didnt get any turnovers or sacks unlike the lie that fat punk lombardi told. he said naamdi set his contract up this way so he could leave when in fact nam was informed by his agent that the deal voided itself. all this talk of him not wanting to be here is just speculated crap that goes nowhere. #21 was paid a lot of money in the short term and never showed leadership. he accepted losing and was one of many punkazz players that hugged and kissed randy moss azz when the pats came here in 08. the same moss that quit on the team but they had the nerve to front on russell. the ball is in his court now and its time for HIM to show some loyalty not the other way around. if he is as stand up as yall say he is then he will resign at a fair price otherwise get the fugg out. this i why i wouldve traded him cuz we may have gotten a 1rst and a 3rd for him.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 am
No doubt we would’ve gotten at least a 1st and 3rd, there are teams out there that would love to have him the jets. In fact i think the Steelers would take the deal. The Saints need cornerss and someone mentioned the Niners I’m not sure he would go there but their secondary stinks.
Nnamdi’s leadership is a real issue for me because Mr Davis made him a very rich young man. When everyone else in the world including Raider fans thought the deal was crazy now their calling him crazy for not giving it to him again.
If you want that kind of money have to be able to take on a much more significant role as a leader I said taht the day he signed that big contract. He played his butt off but until King Richard got here that defense was a rutterless ship.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:42 am
In fact nnamdi should’ve been the vet on that rookie bus in training Camp not Seymour. Nnamdi should grabbed Jamarcus by the collar and told him to get his butt in gear. Nnamdi should’ve been the one to force this defense to step up when they all want to quit. He’s done none of that, King Richard has done all of that.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:51 am
I don’t like to knock Nnamdi because IMO,he is the best cover corner in the league.However,I agree about his leadership role.He should have been a more forceful,vocal leader on the D side of the ball,especially for the contract he signed.I believe the team feels the same way.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 am
I don’t believe Nnamdi or anyone or anything could have gotten the busts butt in gear.He just didn’t/doesn’t have the necessary fire in him.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:54 am
“It used to say he was somebody who had not completed the act of the catch,” explained competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay, president of the Atlanta Falcons. “Now it will give a receiver protection until he becomes a runner and has the opportunity to defend himself.
this is becomming rugby , NFL owners you all su$k except Mr.Davis of course !!!!
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 am
Watched the replay (as painful as it was) of the Favre MNF thrashing of us after his dad died.
I know it was one game, but that was a Chuck B defense. Almost no blitzing (after they were down 20+ points, he started sending some DB’s, but nothing before that) and dead-last in rushing defense. Didn’t inspire me much.
There was a great Al Michaels line in the 2nd half. After Buchanan was roasted throughout the 1st half, the halftime reporter said that Callahan was looking to get some help for Phil in the second half.
Michaels says, “Well they have started to help Buchanan……..they put him on the bench”.
LOL……that was a good one I thought. Man I hated Buchanan, no fight whatsoever in him. After his epicly awful first half, he was set to return a punt around mid-field right before the half ended, and Madden was talking about how this was his chance to maybe get some of what he give up back, down 31-7. As the punt comes his way, he has plenty of room to run……..and he fair catches it. Loser.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 am
priesttj Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 am
No doubt we would’ve gotten at least a 1st and 3rd,
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No way no how.
His one-year contract, with voids in it, and a laughable out of whack salary, ruined his trade value.
Seymour got a 1st round pick only, who did only have one year on his contract, but it was at a reasonable rate. Plus, Seymour is much more impactful player at a more important position.
Nnamdi would have not fetched more than a 2nd rounder, IMO, and certainly less than Seymour would.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:04 am
Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow—
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand—
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep—while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:52 am
Good Moring Nation!!!
Nothing new? Ok…carry on!
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:57 am
RAIDER Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 10:50 am
priesttj Says:
May 21st, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mr Davis has always understood the need to pay the players afterall they are the game.
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Let’s ask Nnamdi Asomugha about that.
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Yeah, why dont we ask the highest paid cornerback in NFL history… the was a good example douchenugget.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:06 am
Peter King showing Al and the Raiders some love:
a. I love the Raiders asking their employees (including coaches) to sell tickets in an attempt to make sure their salaries aren’t cut. Jarrett Bell wrote about this in USA Today last week, and I wanted to shake my head and say, “Typical Raiders.” But I couldn’t. It’s actually pretty smart. And don’t you think coaches would be great ticket sellers out in the community, particularly when they can regale some Chamber of Commerce audience with stories from the gridiron. Nice job, Amy Trask.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 am
WONDER HOW MANY TIX TRASK HAS SOLD..UNLESS SHE ALLREADY HAD A DEAL IN THE BAG WHEN SHE GOT DRUNK AN CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:32 am
This plan isnt as much about the ticket sales as it is about keeping people employed. Al and the organization have found a creative way to keep the employees busy. While you read about teams putting employees on furlough and coaches taking 35% pay cuts the Raiders have their employees receiving paychecks and working for the orgazization the only way they can right now. They should be commended for this.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:40 am
I AGREE BCZ24..AS LONG AS IT APPLIES 2 EVERYONE,FROM TRASK 2 THE JANITOR.GUESS THERE ISNT ANY REASON 2 THINK IT WOULD NOT.
May 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 am
Nothing wrong with an employer trying to save jobs in a bad economy.
May 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 am
NEWS
Tom Curran reports that the Patriots are “enamored” with Gallery
Raiders will not cut salaries even if games are lost
Richard Seymour “I was born to be a raider”
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If the pats are looking at gallery that means that logan mankins is probably out. Al loves to deal with Krafty so i say go for it. Put more patriots on this team.
May 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 am
************LMAO !!!!!***************
You guys never seem to amaze me. I know it is a lock out and all and I am sure you all are as bored as I am but come on man.
How do any of you know what type of leadership skills Nanamdi had in the locker room? He does not seem like the guy who would just go off in front of his teammates on National TV, but to say he had no leadership skills that is why Al is letting him go is simply BS!
He leads by example on and off the field. If players can’t get motivated off of Nanamdi’s work ethic than they are lazy bums and never will.
To say he should have taken Russell by the collar and ruffed him up and told him to get with it and beat the snot out of his team mates is stupid and out dated. Yes, he should hold them accountable and lead by example (he does). But to blame him for all the loses around this camp is ignorant.
I guess Nnamdi is the reason Cable was fired as well.
No better yet fire him because according to “Armond,” he kissed Randy Moss’s @$$ and they fronted on Russell”
What are you talking about?
You guys have taken something that you feel is perception and made the guy into a loosing money hungry villan with no leadership. He is a role model for the team community and he went to the freakin probowl when we had no one. Nnamdi has been the most consitant person on this sorry team. Wake up!
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831.priesttj Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:37 am
No doubt we would’ve gotten at least a 1st and 3rd, there are teams out there that would love to have him the jets. In fact i think the Steelers would take the deal. The Saints need cornerss and someone mentioned the Niners I’m not sure he would go there but their secondary stinks.
Nnamdi’s leadership is a real issue for me because Mr Davis made him a very rich young man. When everyone else in the world including Raider fans thought the deal was crazy now their calling him crazy for not giving it to him again.
If you want that kind of money have to be able to take on a much more significant role as a leader I said taht the day he signed that big contract. He played his butt off but until King Richard got here that defense was a rutterless ship.
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 am
I am a raider fan, not a Nnamdi fan…sure I love the guy in silver and black but when he suits up for another team i lose all love for him. Nnamdi is gone for sure, huff might stay. if we signed Nnamdi again we wouldn’t be able to sign free agents worth a dam. we are already close to the cap for 2011 (assuming the 2009 rules. I want our good players back for sure but we don’t want the same team in 2011. let him go. teams go 14th vs. the pass and win super bowls. it might not be such a bad thing for teams to think about throwing more with Nnamdi gone. as long as we can stop the run….hey what do you know we would have money to pay for LBs who can tackle
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:10 am
G’morning fellas.
Slow news day, huh.
I guess the Raider workouts in ATL should be getting underway amy minute now.
That’s great leadership that Seymour and Campbell are showing. Yes, JC gets to work on his timing with some WR’s, but the biggest benefit from this should be in team building. Comradrie. Making this a more close-knit team.
They’ll be more likely to have each others backs, if an when the season actually starts. That shouldn’t be underestimated.
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 am
I think alot of this bashing or at least questioning of Nnamdi because of his supposed lack of leadership is way off base.
That’s not his personality, then so be it. He’s a very intelligent, soft spoken kind of guy. He shouldn’t try to be anything he’s not. He’s also the consumate professional.
Alot of you young whippersnappers like JFB (jk) don’t remember Mike Haynes in his playing days. I see a lot of Haynes in Nnamdi.
Most CB’s are very loud and boisterous by nature. Ultra-cocky trash talkers like Neon Deion. That was The Judge. Lester Hayes loved to talk a lot of smack, but always backed it up.
Not Mike Haynes. He was low key. Calm, cool and collected. he quietly went about his business trying to be the best he could be. And played his way into the Hall of Fame. Very similar in style to #21.
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 am
All I have said with this is that an honest assessment should not conclude that the Raider secondary will come back without any negative side effects from losing a CB like Nnamdi.
He might just have to go if the salary demands are too high. I agree with that…but there are negative ramifications…and thinking that DVD or Walter McFadden can just fill in is ludicrous.
Nnamdi took time to develop and I am going to guess that DVD and Walter McFadden will take at least as long.
Fellas…the Front 7 have to get at the QB in a bigger way……they have to force QBs into mistakes…more blitzes…the secondary is going to struggle folks.
They gave up 30 pass TDs last year….Nnamdi was responsible for ZERO of those….
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Lester made plays.
Mike Haynes made plays.
Woodson made plays.
Great corners take chances and MAKE PLAYS.
For all of you Nnamdi lovers out there,
Did this guy ever make a BIG play for the Silver and Black???????
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 am
Dr. Thompson,
The BIG PLAY has been holding the Raiders back the last few years. Give me slow and steady.
No Ints? So what, Nnamdi doesn’t give up many receptions and gave up zero TDs…
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 am
Dr.
Thank you. i wholeheartedly agree. i really like Nnamdi, but walter mcfadden has more interceptions than Nnamdi last year, Routte and even CJ have more INTs. Nnamdi is a factor by being on the field i get it, but maybe routte would not have so many TDs against him if all the passes weren’t his direction. Nnamdi has never won a game for us…i’m not bashing i’m just being realistic.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:01 am
RIP to Macho Man. Heard the news on friday night. Great entertainer. Helped lay the foundation for modern wrestling.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am
Nnamdi doesn’t give up catches and tds because nobody throws his way…not because he defends a lot of passes. all nnamdi does for this team is eliminate one reciever and that’s not enough. there are 4-5 recivers every play guys. no one is saying he isn’t good i’m just willing to let his high dollar go and sign more people to improve at the other many positions that take the field.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 am
852.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Lester made plays.
Mike Haynes made plays.
Woodson made plays.
Great corners take chances and MAKE PLAYS.
For all of you Nnamdi lovers out there,
Did this guy ever make a BIG play for the Silver and Black???????
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Dr. you are sadly mistaken. Blaming Nnamdi for the Raider’s misuse of him is asinine. Teams knew exactly where Nnamdi would line up and they game planned around him and very rarely sent a ball his way. How can he be expected to make big plays when teams only threw a hadfull of passes his way each year?
I will be very excited for Nnamdi next year when some team takes advantage of his abilities.
Charles Woodson picked off about 17 passes while a Raider….but Woodson played on some pretty good Raider teams where the other team’s offense had to actually pass the ball to beat us, and he had better teammates, like Eric Allen, surrounding him, so he got many more opportunities to make plays.
Nnamdi has been the lone star player on defense for the vast majority of his time as a starter and also during the vast majority of that time he has been on defense that couldn’t stop the run and the Raiders’ offense couldn’t put points on the board, so the opposing teams simply ran the ball down our throats.
Did Nnamdi cause many fumbles or sack the QB? No, but I don’t expect CBs to cause fumbles, and I sure can’t remember Nnamdi being allowed to blitz very often.
Al is going to regret it dearly, and so will the fans because Al will spend a few first rounders trying to replace the guy we already had…..and if he is successful in replacing him then guess what, that guy will want big money too.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:06 am
I am a big Nnamdi fan, however I have to side with Irjonny on this one. I think there is a better return on investment on elite D linemen and LBs that can pressure the QB and stop the run than on DBs. Spend more on bringing talent to the seven guys in the box.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
the death toll so far in Joplin, MO is over 90 people
scary living in the Midwest during tornado season!
3/4 of that entire city destroyed
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:12 am
Dakota of course a simple HICK like yourself doesn’t get it.
I was asking RAIDER fans to simply remember his biggest play for the Silver and Black.
JUST NAME ONE PLAY.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Deangelo Hall makes a lot of big plays, but one would have to be a complete moron to give him more money than Nnamdi gets.
Just because a guy gets picked on all day and finally comes through with a pick six doesn’t mean he really helped your team.
Give me Nnamdi and a DC who will move him around the field and throw in some zone now and then and Nnamdi will make his fair share of big plays.
Just as with Woodson, who has picked off 30 passes with GB (only 178 with the Raiders) despite playing 25 few games with them than he did with the Raiders. We will all be sick watching Nnamdi become a HOF player with another team.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 am
(only *17* with the Raiders)
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:18 am
Dr.
You know who else made alot of plays…Phillip Buchanon. But you know what Timmy B said about him.
Since the year he had 8 int’s teams just don’t throw at him. he generally eliminates his man from the other teams gameplan. That game vs Hou at the end of 08. Texans came to Oak the hottest team in the league, winning 5 straight. The game was played in the rain. Everybody was covered in mud. Except for one guy running around in a lily white uniform. Stuck out like a sore thumb. Andre Johnson. He was a complete nonfactor. Nnamdi practically shut him out.
He gave up ZERO td’s last year. The Raiders WERE the #2 pass defense in the league. I don’t know how they gave up so many passing Td’s. QB’s were exploiting somebody not wearing #21 apparently.
I don’t think the Raiders ever found his partner in crime on the other side to make this def work. They needed a tandem. Somebody equally feared on the other side. They tried with D Hall and failed miserably.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
Wylie certainly is behind the eightball for this year.
If the guy is any good at his job, he seems to have a lot of talent to work with moving forward, and things SHOULD work out in the long run.
But he also has youth, overall inexperience, inexperience at these new positions (Barksdale probably moving to RT, Wiz at C, Campbell at RG), a more than likely condenced training camp, and Al’s overall lack of patience working against him.
Good luck mushroom man!!!
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Solid post by JFB
I think we’re getting a little carried away though. college talent and NFL potential are great, but they doesn’t always translate to NFL talent. Sometimes they don’t meet expectations or live up to that potential. Especially not right away. Wylie has the toughest job of any Raiders position coach, because unlike Sanjay Lal who is on Al’s scholarship program … Wylie is a coaching veteran
produce or you’re outta here!
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Crying about Nnamdi’s playmaking lol.
That is sad.
It is like saying the Jazz should’ve traded John Stockton to ATL for Spud Webb because Stockton couldn’t dunk like Webb lol.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
You guys can’t even come up with ONE play for a guy that makes QUARTERBACK MONEY?
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:37 am
Of course Nnamdi has to take a reasonable offer. If the Raiders offer a 4 year $50 million dollar deal that would be substantially more that Revis’ contract (4yrs $46 mil) Or maybe the Raiders have to go with 5 years $62.5. Either way Al should make that deal and then let Chucky B use Nnamdi properly.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Revis makes plays.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 am
Dr.
Would you concede that the man is viewed by the ENTIRE pro football world, except for a few Bay Area fans as the best corner in football. If not number one, then defenitely 1-A to Revis? Writers, announcers, fans, and probably GM’s alike.
It’s not even close. Champ Bailey is aging. Remember, this is now a passing league more than ever. Corners are at a premium.
I think all 31 other teams would like to have #21 on their team. He’s viewed as the prize free agent if and when it begins. Somebody, probably either Jones or Snyder is going to break the bank.
I don’t think he should be paid like Manning or Brady. If that’s what it’s going to take to keep him, then the Raiders are going to have to bite the bullet and let him walk. Unfortunately.
But, in no way can somebody spin this as some kind of addition by subtraction.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Switch Nnamdi and Revis and we would be having the same argument except it would be Nnamdi who had been making plays in a better system and Revis who was shutting down a portion of the field with only a handful of balls thrown his way each year.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 am
Nnamdi won’t play with a hangnail.
Check the Raiders record when he is nursing a boo boo.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:46 am
Randy Moss to the Jets?
http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/29508458
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 am
Randy Moss TORCHED Nnamdi the last time the Pats came to town.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
Nnamdi only has 3 years left imo
5 years $62.5 million would be a joke!
Our team hasn’t won more than 8 games since #21 was drafted in 2003.
In other words, he’s not making a difference in the W/L column
He’s a great player and probably a great person, but it’s a business decision and he’s just not worth $13-16 million annually and if my “3 years” take is correct you’re actually paying him $20+ mil
He turns 30 years old this summer. You don’t see many CB’s over that still dominate at the age of 33 or 34
Charles Woodson turns 35 in October, but he also plays behind a Dom Capers 3-4 defense … something Nnamdi would never get the benefit of in Oaktown
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 am
871.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 am
Nnamdi won’t play with a hangnail.
Check the Raiders record when he is nursing a boo boo.
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Lol he has missed a total of 5 games in the past 6 seasons.
Are you a new fan of the Raiders or something?
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 am
What was the Raiders record in those five games, HICK?
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:53 am
876.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 am
What was the Raiders record in those five games, HICK?
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Oh I see your point genius, the only thing holding the Raiders back is Nnamdi. Once we get him off the field we will become a contender again! lol idiotic
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 am
Silly Hick. I wasn’t talking to you.
I was talking to Raider fans.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:56 am
Trade DMAC for Spud Webb!
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:56 am
GO LAKERS!
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:59 am
878.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 am
Silly Hick. I wasn’t talking to you.
I was talking to Raider fans.
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lol weak
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 am
lol is weak.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 am
lol I was talking to Spud Webb fans.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
All of this arguments will mean anything if there is NO season this year…and right now, it is leaning that way. I hope they come to their senses because that is a lot of money that both sides will lose…but hey
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:08 am
hwnrdr Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 am
All of this arguments will mean anything if there is NO season this year…
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It means one fewer season of enduring Jon Condo.
Any CBA that allows a fkin dedicated longsnapper to get more than$2mil per year needs to be blown up. Personally, I can wait.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:11 am
No arguments here.
Just facts.
Nnamdi doesn’t make plays.
Nnamdi doesn’t play hurt.
Dakota is a Hick.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 am
As long as we got Danny Southwick im not worried. He more than makes up for having the scrub Jon Condo
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:19 am
Nnamdi is gone and who fkin cares? Overrated POS
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 am
Bauce knows what’s up.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 am
Well said Bauce. I trust Danny is running the show in Atlanta right now. It pays to have football Jesus on the payroll. Undercover.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am
I have zero issues with Nnamdi as a player, he is everything you’d want as a cover corner as a guy who can take your best WR out of the game. he’s up there with Mike Haynes Willie Brown and all the great ones. We’ve had more balance in the past as far as tandems go. It’s not Nnamdi’s fault that other guys get picked on. It’s not nnamdi’s fault we haven’t been dominant vs the run or even good vs the run. To suggest that as a weakness on his part is to assume he should play 2 or more positions at one time. His job is to take the best guy out of the game.
I know I know I know he doesn’t always follow that guy but he’s doing HIS job. It’s up to the DC to ask him to do so he has to stay true to the scheme. Could he take more chances, yeah probably but then he’d give up a few TD’s as well. You cannot ask him to be all things to everyone. He has to do his job……………..period
My only critism of Nnam is sometimes he complained that he did want to follow a guy and he did want to be used differently because he wanted STATS!! so he could qwell the criticism. Mr Davis wasn’t paying him to worry about fans critiguing him just take his man off the field. But I also feel he wanted a certain amount of leadership from Nnamdi that is not Nnamdi’s nature. So if that is the case then don’t bpay him for him for something he can’t give…………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am
Nnamdi is soft and isnt a leader. He doesnt make big plays is an average tackler and doesnt do anything to inspire his teammates. Get this lifeless loser outta here now. Take that cotton soft wimp Huff too
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 am
Losing Nnamdi is in no way addition by subtraction, Great corner, however using 13 mil+ to bring in logan mankins, santana moss, vonta leach, steve smith, Michael Huff, Jared Gaither some LBs DTs etc. is addition by addition and requires letting Nnamdi walk. no way he re-signs and it’s best for both parties. sure we will hate it when we see him go to SB with another team (maybe) like woodson. remember though that Nnamdi was trained by rod woodson and he’s a coach now…not saying he will produce another nnamdi, but we will be ok in the secondary. 2nd in league good? no but certainly not 32nd
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 am
The Bo Comedy Show ladies and gentlemen…..never a dull moment lol. Jesus on the payroll hahaha
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:33 am
I have bookmarked this page for future use. It will be fun to whip these comments out after Nnamdi has a good game with his new team or, sadly, after the Raiders’ secondary gets toasted a few times without him.
What, now we can’t stop the run OR the pass? Man we should have kept Nnamdi!
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 am
We have won without nnamdi before and we will win when he is out
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am
Save the pages…save em all Dakota. You would see me support your loser Cubs before I admit we miss Non D asomugha
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am
http://www.raiders.com/team/roster/Danny-Southwick/SOU689214
Looks strangely like Richie Rich Gannon…
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am
Wow. hating on Nnamdi. why? you can only compare him to Revis, but Revis plays for perhaps the best defensive coach in the league, and plays in the best D in the league. Nnamdi plays in a 1970’s system that can’t stop the run and has a track athlete as the other CB…
Is Nnamdi worth Peyton Manning Moolah? hell no!
Is Nnamdi the best Cover Corner in the NFL? hell ya!
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:39 am
http://www.tampabaystorm.com/roster/danny-southwick/
Go Coach!
Notes from his bio: After his release from the Raiders he joined the football staff as an assistant to Hue Jackson and Paul Hackett…Majored in English…Currently involved in e-commerce off of the football field…
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 am
Its hilarious you guys think Nnamdi can ever do what Woodson did the last five seasons after leaving Oakland lol. Woodson is a great talent while Aso is good talent. Hope cba is done so he can go be a softy somewhere else
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 am
Nnamdi best cover corner in NFL? hahahahaha
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
You will all Rue the Day Nnamdi left!
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
IRJonny,
If his departure allows Oak to bring in Logan Mankins, then maybe I’m all for it. So far, all we have to show is Loper, Routt and Hiram friggin Eugene.
Less than inspiring.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 am
I watch Revis and Nnamdi they have different style Revis is more physical Nnamdi just mirrors the rec’r. To say he’s soft is just hating Bauce. Nnamdi is anything but soft he’s just not a physical corner but you don’t have to be if you have what he has. His physigue allows him to play different than Revis. If Revis didn’t grab and hold and punch he’d get beat a lot. He cannot play like Nnamdi but i bet Nnamdi could add 5lbs. and do what Revis does if the refs allowed him to. It’s a matter of personal taste…………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
So you think Al is still willing to consider spending 11 million or so on Nnamdi and another 6 or so to keep Huff?
If there is 17 million to spend, I think it could be spent better.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
JC, Boller and Southwick as our qbs would not bother me at all
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:48 am
Charles won a Heisman playing DEFENSE. Nnamdi was a nobody safety for a nancyboy team in the weakass Pac10. He is a great CB now but has maximized his talent.
Class guy on a mostly classless franchise. Wish he could stay but…
Who honestly thinks Nnamdi will ever enter the HOF?
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
BHP…..nnamdi is soft and a raider employee told me so right at fkin Merchant’s in Jack London. This guy would know better than you so the hating part is now null in void. Thanks
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
Loper got Gallery’s cash not Nnamdi’s. And Eugene got Huff’s.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:50 am
Bauce if you took Nnamdi and let him do what Woodson does he excel all he need do is add 10lbs. Nnamdi is 6′3″ Revis 5′11″ Charles is 6′1″ yet Revis heavier than Nnamdi. You must not have seen Nnamdi play safety at Cal. Nnamdi will knock your head off if he added the muscle he’s playing at about 205-10 he could get to 220+ no problem Revis can’t carry that wieght. I’ve seen Nnamdi play physical it’s in him he just doesn’t use it as much as he could.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am
Jhill…..yeah like signing two vet guards who are worthy starters, a number 1 wr, a true backup qb, another DE, WLB and blocking fb
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 am
904.Buckeyeraider Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 am
IRJonny,
If his departure allows Oak to bring in Logan Mankins, then maybe I’m all for it. So far, all we have to show is Loper, Routt and Hiram friggin Eugene.
Less than inspiring.
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906.J Hill Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 am
So you think Al is still willing to consider spending 11 million or so on Nnamdi and another 6 or so to keep Huff?
If there is 17 million to spend, I think it could be spent better.
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Yeah that is all well and good in theory…..but it is more likely that the money will be spent on crap players with injury histories, or attitude problems, or big holes in their games….and then you have to factor in the multiple first round draft picks Al will waste trying to replace Nnamdi.
Huff can hit the road, I don’t care about him, but losing Nnamdi is going to hurt in many ways. If we had a different owner I probably wouldn’t mind, but he will want his lock down cover corner and so let the parade of Routts, Buchanons, Halls and Washingtons begin once again.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
BHP i grew up on Cal football and always have been a fan and no Nnamdi wasnt knocking heads like that. He wasnt a vicious hitter and never will be
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Bauce that doesn’t mean squat to me what some employee said even if he were a coach. I’ve seen what this kid can do when he wants to. At Cal that’s all Nnamdi did I was iffy on his ability to convert to corner because he was tooo big an d his game was hittin’. he’s totally changed the way he plays out of necessity. Nnamdi can be very phyical when HE WANTS TO BE.
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Front 7 play far more vital for team success. FK huff and nnamdi
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Yeah but BHP if a strength and conditioning coach says he is soft and is around him on the daily then it means squat. He has more credibility on the situation than you or I. Nnamdi can be physical when he wants to be? Review that statement and see how ridiculous that sounds
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:59 am
Bauce go ask any coach you want, I sat and scouted Nnamdi when he was at Cal with the scouts for the Raiders. there was a nother kid there at cal I can’t remember his name but he was the FS at cal with Nnamdi. I like the other kid as a safety ……damn what was that kids name?? I think Powell or something like that.
We watched Nnamdi at the East West Shrine game on the field. We drafted Nnamdi to play safety not corner he was switched to corner in his second season. After he was tried there and they liked what they saw because Phil Buchanan was struggling. That’s when they switched Nnamdi to corner.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 am
Lol you scouted Nnamdi? Bad job I say
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:01 am
Bauce,
To be fair, you and the Dr. have a valid point. To an extent. There have been a couple of games over the years that Nnamdi has missed due to injury, where the dropoff has not been noticeable, if any. Routt and CJ37 have done an admirable job filling in.
However, there is no guarantee that it would hold up throughout an entire season. That’s a leap of faith.
People are making the same assumptions with Loper. Aw shucks he filled in fine for Gallery. Let that long haired puzzy take himself somewhere else. Good riddance.
Gallery had made himself into a lot better guard than he gets credit for. He was playing at or near probowl level. Hence, the Patriots apparently showing some interest in him. he just couldn’t stay healthy.
Loper filled in OK, for short periods of time. Will he hold up for an entire season, and sustain a high level of play. Or will he prove to be a backup level player and leave a gaping hole in the interior of the line.
I’m not as excited about him being penciled in as an apparent starter as some are. he might be a capable backup at best, IMO.
We shall see how it all plays out, I guess.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 am
They made him drop 15 lbs. to play corner Nnamdi wa splaying at 220+ I remember talking to George Atkinson on the radio and we were talkiing about nnamdi and even he endorsed Nnamdi as the next GREAT Raider safety.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 am
Dakota book marked the pages.
Oh no!
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Pro coach currently compared to scouts who dont work with player on the daily….see the disadvantage you are at?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 am
Buckeye…..lol gallery? just stop right there
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 am
What you need to take into consideration is that teams run on us for the obvious reasons, therefore our passing defense rating or numbers are not going to be that comparable to other teams or league average. Lets see what happens when we can actually stop the run, then lets see how good our pass defense actually is.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 am
Watch the SF game from last year.
Nnamdi celebrates after dropping an INT.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 am
Lol BHP….making bold predictions on the next GREAT raider players lol. George is cool and I love the drunk bastard but he is wrong alot and off that sauce
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 am
Dr. Thompson….i was at the niner game and was pissed seeing that loser drop that then celebrate
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 am
666 good post from the Scholarship Times
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 am
#21 has only collected 11 INT’s in his entire career, he probably couldn’t believe the pigskin touched his paws. For him thats a job well done and reason enough to celebrate.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 am
Bulls look out of it vs miami’s defensee
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 am
Bauce,
I think what George and tj have in common is they are both wrong alot and frequently sauced up.
lol @ #21 the next “great” safety.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Nnamdi turned out better than he or I thought he would, I thought the switch wouldn’t work. To see nnamdi play like a one of the bets cprners I’ve ever seen in Mike Haynes is unbelieavable to me. I never would’ve guesssed he’d be this successful. I thought he ‘d play corner until we got someone better. There’s no on better…………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Nnamdi hasnt made agreat play since 08 vs carolina when h snagged an INT from steve smith. I was there and knew delhomme would try him
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Nnamdi was well aware of his contact stipulations.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
Priceless.
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Priesttj Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Nnamdi turned out better than he or I thought he would
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
BHP you werent serious comparing nnamdi to haynes were you?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
No nnamdi was well aware of his 15 millies for the season. He can now be a class act and hang out with the losers on First Take
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
tj, its close enough to noon go ahead and spill some scotch over rocks and start posting more gems…
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 am
Wow joakim called a fan a homo….big deal. Its miami you think homos arent at the Heat game? I saw nada wrong with what he did
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:22 am
Lol mista
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:23 am
All we need is kell in here asking for a link and talking about his big trip to catch Sars in Beijing and Shanghai
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 am
tj I got my notepad and #2 pencil ready…
So far:
#21 will knock your head off he puts on 10lbs
&
DHB is going to have a breakout season
Why stop there tj I’m sure you can expand on that!
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 am
Bauce, pls dont call for KK
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:28 am
Mista you dont like links?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Didn’t Nnamdi have a pick six vs Big Ben in the Raiders upset of defending champ Pittsburgh. Nnamdi took one 20, while Chris Carr added another and the D made it hold up as Oakland had about 100 yards of offense.
He also had one of the best int’s I’ve ever seen vs Carson Palmer. Had two that day I belive. but one was just a one handed gem. reached out with those long arms and plucked it with one hand. Helluva catch. Looked like he borrowed some of The Judge’s stckem.
Since that year, where he had 8 int’s, teams avoid him. Rivers will go at him once in awhile, to his freakishly large WR’s. That’s about it.
Yeah, I’d like to see him gamble once in awhile and try to jump a route. But, he’s a solid all around corner. I don’t see the “soft” thing at all. He’s very physical against the run. You can see his safety background in his tackling.
Unlike a couple of months ago, before the draft and the presser, I think he’s probably as good as gone, now. I hope it’s not a case of “don’t know what you’ve got, til it’s gone” for Raider fans.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
I love links & ribs, tato salad, beans, slaw
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
Mista….dhb is only in his 3rd season. Most wrs take 3 years….cept none sucked as bad as Dropped Hellas Balls DHB
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Mista im talking links to a website
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 am
Rivers will miss Nnamdi.
He picked on him often.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Buckeye yes he did due to thomas howard tipping the ball. that was 2006 and its 2011. Nnamdi needs to go
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 am
Bauce the A’s have no swag.
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I know but I like the kinda links smothered in sauce!
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 am
The notion that if Nnamdi leaves we are going to have $17 million NEW dollars to spend is ridiculous.
Last year, we got Routt, Wimbley and Nnamdi all for $20 million.
Next year, we are spending OVER $20 million, just for Wimbley and Routt.
Nnamdi is leaving, and that money is already spent.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Sweep???
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Back-to-back championships??
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Dynasty??
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
What, now we can’t stop the run OR the pass? Man we should have kept Nnamdi!
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if we can’t stop the run or pass without nnamdi then that’s even more reason not to give 13 mil to the guy because we need to upgrade 10 other guys on defense right?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Good job Buckeye.
I know you had to dig.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
****You guys are still crack’n me up ,LMAO!!!!*******
How can you call Nnamdi soft?
Answer he is not! He may not lay the big stick like Charles or Rod Woodson did back in their day but he is usually there to make the play 90% of the time.
How can you play a guy as fast, strong and physical as Andre Johnson and shut him down! You can’t be weak a nd play a physical WR like Nam does. He does it again and again.
Now if we just can’t afford the guy, OK. But I still say Al over pays all the time what is the big deal now when you know what you are getting?
But you all sound crazy as hall heck! To try to discredit his game. He is one of the best cover corners in the game. Top three all the way, maybe even Top 1.
Who else do we bring in with Nams cash that gives us what he does? Who else is out there in free agency that helps us this year with no lock out?
DO I HEAR CRICKETS????? : )
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
tj?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Rivers would ace Nnamdi alot no doubt. .he never was scared to test him. Hell lot of good qbs with nuts arent scared of him. Only mediocre qbs are afriad. Nnamdi overrated
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
Greatest staff ever??
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:36 am
CJ,
#21 was replaced by Routt…lol
The end
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:38 am
CJ lol crickets? U know that wont apply with the Bauce……..raider coach told me specifically he was soft. So he has more credibility than you on the subject
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
Last year, we got Routt, Wimbley and Nnamdi all for $20 million.
Next year, we are spending OVER $20 million, just for Wimbley and Routt.
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so are you suggesting that we should dump routte and wimbley just to keep nnamdi??
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
Thank you! The problem is Al over paid for bums the last 4 years. Don’t blame Nam for mastering his craft. Maybe managment needs to master negotiating a contract that makes decent sense.
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953.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 am
The notion that if Nnamdi leaves we are going to have $17 million NEW dollars to spend is ridiculous.
Last year, we got Routt, Wimbley and Nnamdi all for $20 million.
Next year, we are spending OVER $20 million, just for Wimbley and Routt.
Nnamdi is leaving, and that money is already spent.
954.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
If you don’t take the needle,
You are SOFT.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 am
When #21 was on the sidelines our def didn’t miss a beat they were avg before he twisted his ballerina ankle and they were avg when he returned.
AL saw that and if his mind wasn’t already made up that was the nail in the Nnamdi coffin…
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
i would rather have a good offensive line with nnamdi’s money, or a good defensive line.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
so are you suggesting that we should dump routte and wimbley just to keep nnamdi??
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No, I am just saying there is no saving money if we lose Nnamdi, unless we shed other contracts as well.
We already gave multiple guys raises (some like 7-8 million dollar raises) this season.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I use to think Nnamdi was good too but thanksgiving 09 raised a flag to me cuz Miles Austin was acing nnamdi all game. But nail in coffin was SD game vs malcolm floyd. Chargers WR Seyi Ajirotutu told me 24 hours before the game thaat they were gonna dice him cuz film shows he is losing a step
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I agree, lets start with #21 and NOT pay him 17 mil.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:39 am
Thank you! The problem is Al over paid for bums the last 4 years.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
“raider coach told me specifically he was soft.”
Wow your inside info is better than PFT and Jerry why don’t you start your own BLOG?
why would a Raider coach confide in you…do you have some kind of super chat powers we are not aware of?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Routt is a vey solid corner I have no problem with him getting his money at this point. How much he gets paid is between him and the owner. Routt’s money has zero to do with whether we sign Nnamdi……….absolutely nothing!!
Nnamdi has everything to do with whether we sign him or not. If he wants to stay he’ll stay if not he wont………period
Rivers threw two picks last year to the Raiders. He throws at Nnamdi because he has the guys to pull the ball down. There’s nothing wrong with being thrown at it’s what you do when it happens. He did give up a TD and only 13 rec’s anyone with a problem with those #’s is either Hating or just not understanding what kind of player the kid is. That doesn’t happen by mistake…………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Until you guys sit with a current NFL player and disect both charger games last year you cant tell me shhhht on the Nnamdi matter. Also he is soft cuz the strength and conditioning coach told me. And around organization they all think the same thing
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
964.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:38 am
CJ lol crickets? U know that wont apply with the Bauce……..raider coach told me specifically he was soft. So he has more credibility than you on the subject
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Yeah right and Michael Jackson also comes to you at night and tells you that his old pet monkey Bubbles was responsible for his death. LOL Bauce!!!!! : )
If we go by your theory they should have cut Deion Sanders as well because he did not like to tackle and he never came up with big hits but he locked down some big @$$ fast WRs. Lets see played for (Falcons, Dallas, SF).
But your the Bauceeeeeeee!!!
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Bauce, why dont you ask tj since he drafted Nnamdi.
lmao
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
Bauce aren’t we strtechin’ this just a bit. You can hate the guy but man “everyone in the organizarion thinks he’s soft” come on man!
There are a ton of people in that org. that LOVE that kid and I know that for a fact….
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
666….actually my info has shown to be true on here so spare me the condescending remark about starting my own blog. Brad roll and other Raider coaches are getting hammered round Jack London. this is a known thing. Why would he tell me? hell cuz He saw I was Real Raider and I knew my shhhht on Raiders related matters
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
All Deion did was make picks and take them to the house. If #21 did that on a reg basis I would give him props but he doesn’t and I don’t.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
If we go by your theory they should have cut Deion Sanders as well because he did not like to tackle and he never came up with big hits but he locked down some big @$$ fast WRs. Lets see played for (Falcons, Dallas, SF).
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Bauce do you play in the NFL?
Did you paly in the NFL?
Or do you just watch the NFL and play Madden on the weekdays?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
tj,
Nnamdi is what 30yrs old and you are calling him a kid?
lol
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Nnamdi was trained by rod woodson and he’s a coach now…
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Irphony, stand corrected.
Rod Woodson’s last season here was 2003 – Nnamdi’s rookie year
#21 only started 8 games his first 2 seasons here and nobody even really noticed him until he ALMOST made the 2006 Pro Bowl with 8 INT’s
Rob Ryan & Chuck Pagano mentored Asomugha
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Comparing Deion and Nnamdi is like comparing a one legged man in an ass kickin contest to people who have two legs lol. So again I win you lose my friend
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Since he we are talking overrated players I wonder what Jano is doing right about now.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Deion scored something crazy like 1 TD every 4 games he played up until his last years in Wash and Baltimore.
He may have been soft, and couldn’t tackle, but he put points on the board, and all the time.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
Ahhh…Yeah it does happen.
Every corner gives up a TD or two or a ball thrown their direction. Darelle Reeves got one on him big time last year. Dion Sanders? Yeah, it happened to him! Charles Woodson? Yes sir!!! Come on guys really this is crazy talk and you no it. Perception and reality are two unique things.
P.S. Sorry Priesttj, ALMOST FORGOT…”PERIOD!!!” : )
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974.priesttj Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Routt is a vey solid corner I have no problem with him getting his money at this point. How much he gets paid is between him and the owner. Routt’s money has zero to do with whether we sign Nnamdi……….absolutely nothing!!
Nnamdi has everything to do with whether we sign him or not. If he wants to stay he’ll stay if not he wont………period
Rivers threw two picks last year to the Raiders. He throws at Nnamdi because he has the guys to pull the ball down. There’s nothing wrong with being thrown at it’s what you do when it happens. He did give up a TD and only 13 rec’s anyone with a problem with those #’s is either Hating or just not understanding what kind of player the kid is. That doesn’t happen by mistake…………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
JFB
i see where you are coming from. BUT wimbley got franchised to make sure he doesn’t go anywhere. no CBA so he won’t sign it he will get a long term contract that doesn’t pay him 12 mil this year imo. eugene can still be cut before he gets a paycheck. again the raiders gave contracts and tenders just in case.
either way those players needed to be here and that means we cannot pay nnamdi unless we want to just let free agents pass us by to improve this team. i love nnamdi but he is NOT a gamechanger and therefore i am ok with it
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
CJ ive stunk at madden since the 2000s came in. I dont play video games anymore unless its basketball….so try again. If Im around a real life nfl player and he is telling me things should i not take them as credible?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
pres purp lips limo got stuck on the road in Ireland.
lmao
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
The reason Nnamdi could shut down his side of the field is not just because he is great, but the rest of the field was pretty easy to torch. Now if Nnamdi is gone, look for fireworks.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
raiderockstarf**ker
just going off what Nnamdi said…i believe that is the horses mouth
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Deion clearly a better athlete but if you answer the question honestly you understand the comparison.
Deion was not a physical corner but it would be insane to call him weak. I say the same thing about Nnamdi.
What is the diffrence between the two when it comes to being physical?
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984.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Comparing Deion and Nnamdi is like comparing a one legged man in an ass kickin contest to people who have two legs lol. So again I win you lose my friend
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Rob Ryan & Chuck Pagano mentored Asomugha
I would even include DB Coaches Darren Perry & Lionel Washington …
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:55 am
” I was Real Raider and I knew my shhhht on Raiders related matters”
Those are past tense statements.
So now you are the Dali lama on all things Raiders.
I got to give you credit on your big ego and your sense of self worth.
You don’t know anything more than anyone else here inside info or not.
If Nnamdi is thought of as soft by all teams then why is he the most coveted free agent?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
Whats even sadder is people just think all players or coaches are silent on matters pertaining to the team. I dont even diss out all dirt that ive been told because Ive been asked not to. For instance I got mocked just like you are doing now on Jamarcus Russell and his actions in Bay Area…..well now lol what happened?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
CJ as I said comparing Deion and Aso is beyond laughable. Deion made up for his weaknesses ten fold…..nnamdi? thanks for playing
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
Well you must be a racist.
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Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
For instance I got mocked just like you are doing now on Jamarcus Russell and his actions in Bay Area…..well now lol what happened?
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Bauce
i’m a little new here. so how do is it you have insider info?
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
666….i disagree I know more than many on here not all but many and you know it
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Bauce – I was just kidding in good fun by the way but I find it hard to believe that a good football player could call a guy like Nnamdi with his stats weak?
If so no offense but I don’t think he would be a credible player. Nnamdi may not bench 400lbs but he can handle a guy like Andre Johnson. Andre is won of the stronget WRS in the NFL and Nnamdi gives this guy fits.
You don’t make the probowl and consistantly play for a loosing team but your kicking a$$ improving every year throguh coaching change after caoching change with a bad offencse that keeps you on the island and be weak.
What NFL player do you know would call a guy like this weak and still be creditable? Jamarcus Russell?
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989.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
CJ ive stunk at madden since the 2000s came in. I dont play video games anymore unless its basketball….so try again. If Im around a real life nfl player and he is telling me things should i not take them as credible?
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Lol 666 you are smarter than this…….many soft ass players still get coveted by teams. Nnamdi isnt a great player just a good one. he isnt special nor a HOF caliber player
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
d@mn spell check gone wrong. You get my points! : )
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Deion was a better zone corner. Nnamdi’s a better man corner. Since I believe man skills are primary, I believe Nnamdi Asomugha is a better cb than Deion Sanders. Remember that they don’t even throw to Nnamdi’s side. Deion didn’t get that much respect. That being said, Sanders is a far better special teams player than Asomugha.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Bauce Rules
I do usually see where you are coming from and you seem to be one of the more intelligent people here. But I have a hard time understanding that the whole league see him as soft.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Name one, besides your opinion Nnamdi.
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1002.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Lol 666 you are smarter than this…….many soft ass players still get coveted by teams. Nnamdi isnt a great player just a good one. he isnt special nor a HOF caliber player
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Bauce knows the score.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
CJ i know u playing my friend….uu a good poster we just dont see eye to eye on this. Norco Bob and I disagree on many raider players but thats the beauty of life. We all are different
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
if the Raiders DO try to use “Nnamdi’s money” to go after quality free agents, I would mind it much less. I don’t think that’s the direction they’re going to go.
The only way I can see this working out in the Raiders’ favor is that teams will stop spending the entire game going after one guy, forcing opposing QBs to actually survey the whole field before making a throw. Maybe it’ll allow the secondary to make more plays on the ball? Who knows. The Raiders haven’t been too much better or worse in the few games Nnamdi has been injured, so they could be alright.
If the defense can learn to stop the run consistently, it won’t matter nearly as much. That, however, is something I see as a weakness in the defensive scheme, which won’t change any time soon
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YA hit the nail on the head with post #785!
Overpaying Routt & Eugene was just plain stupid. So was overpaying Boller, Loper, Bennett & Henderson. It’s just what Al Davis does.
Does that mean we also have to overpay Asomugha & Huff to actually make the the highest paid players at their position (like Seymour – also overpaid) ???
NO! enough is enough. what kind of logic is that anyways? Huff & Aso have done their jobs, but they haven’t transformed the Raiders into a winner, so both can walk the plank. The Raiders need to focus on stuffing the run. They also need to fix the passing game. the defensive front seven is not going to change, so I say let’s get the best #2 QB and vet WR on the market. Let Wylie find a few OL grunts for depth and competition instead of settling for undrafted scraps, too. The best defense is a good offense. Teams don’t like to run the ball when they’re down by 10-17 pts late in the 4th qtr
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
CJ…..i got one naw two and it hits close to home…….Fabian Washington and Phillip Buchanon. Are they talented as Aso? No way not even close but those pansies were still wanted by good teams for some strange reason
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
He doesn’t take the needle.
If you don’t take the needle, you are soft.
The entire NFL knows this.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Bauce Nnamdi is probably going to sign a deal for the most money for any corner in this league whether it’s here or not. I think that speaks volumns. Also they’re doing this top 100 players deal on NFLN Lets makea small bet where nnamdi ends up??? game?
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I said it before and I will say it again we play man to man on that island all the time. Minute after minute and Nnamdi has locked his side of the field down!
Give me one playe rin the NFL that can come into our system and do that on day one? Becareful now, remember the Hall(LMAO)experiment.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I couldn’t care less that Deion Sanders is a better athlete than Nnamdi. And I would on concede that Deion is more elusive and can run faster. This is football, not a triathlon. Nnamdi would knock Deion’s @#%% in the dirt.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
People did say that Neon Deion was soft because he didn’t like contact or to make tackles but he was a return specialist.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…….
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
666 not league but people in Raider org……now……its time to part for both parties. Nnamdi you tried but it just didnt work out. hope he has success too no doubt but his time is up here
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Bauce agree they were not good corners, but I disagree that they were paid anywhere close to what Nnamdi demands on the free agent market. Not even close!
Plus, don’t forget Al paid for all the depreciation on those two guys. The Ravens (Fabian) and the Texans (philip taketh away) got the discount. They were bought on the used car market. Stay with me Bauce. : )
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1010.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
CJ…..i got one naw two and it hits close to home…….Fabian Washington and Phillip Buchanon. Are they talented as Aso? No way not even close but those pansies were still wanted by good teams for some strange reason
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
It’s not even a debate to me if Nnamdi wants to stay he’ll stay………….period
Saying we don’t need the guy is like saying we don’t need great players. You need every great player you can get every single one of them Nnamdi included.
Can you win without him well GB just did, Steelers do but would both of them LOVE to have him? Hell Yeah!!
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
666 there are also a few cats on here who know football better than me…Ed Teach Scottish Raider Terrapin Bob Marley Thec SnB Dell and I hate to even say this……Kell damn sure knows football he is just a bitter old man now
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
“He doesn’t take the needle.
If you don’t take the needle, you are soft.
The entire NFL knows this.”
I think the modern day athlete may be bigger, faster, and stronger but they lack in heart, commitment to the game and pain threshold. You couldn’t take a guy out of a game in the early years (Jack Youngblood) todays athlete takes themselves out of games and is more worried about how they look in a commercial or dancing in the end zone.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Deion played 5 years for Atlanta and didn’t win a ring until he joined the 49ers & Cowboys …
Nnamdi played 8 years for Oakland and we haven’t won more than 8 games in a season. Nnamdi leaving won’t hurt either party. He has a chance to go play for Philly or Baltimore in a quest for a Championship. If he goes to the highest bidder, that means he only cares about the money like Fat Albert Haynesworth – even if the highest bidder is Oakland. It means he doesn’t care about greatness or personal success.
Unless his definition of personal success is like JaMarcus, stealing big Al’s money.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Bob Geren needs to be fired in about 3 weeks, if the A’s keep screwing up.
Beans is going to need to step up and fire his boy, if he is too hold any credibility.
The A’s are going nowhere with Geren as manager. The man would never be able to manage in the National League and no other team in the AL would hire him either. He is a Bench coach or Double A manager at best.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Im with ya CJ…..u said name soft players coveted….i named two great examples of toilet tissue soft players
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Bauce…”not league but people in Raider org”
That makes more sense.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Nnamdi is probably going to sign a deal for the most money for any corner in this league whether it’s here or not.
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TJ, #21 is going to the highest bidder?
I thought so.
Washington Redskins, baby!
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
“Unless his definition of personal success is like JaMarcus, stealing big Al’s money.”
I think most of “todays” athletes would take that over a championship. Pretty sad if you ask me. Guys dancing and celebrating after a mundane tackle when behind by 30 points.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Whether u want nnamdi back or not….cba deal is biggest obstacle. We are seriously in trouble and may not see a game until October. If thats the case I wont go to one game this year. It will be a fake chhampion and everything
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Let’s put it this way. Imagine Deion, in his prime (er, prime time?), playing on this current Raider defense in place of Nnamdi. What would he look like then? Then put Nnamdi in that 1995 Cowboy defense, which was solid from the line to the secondary. I’ll bet you that Cowboy defense is even better with Nnamdi, sans the number of picks, which was Deion’s specialty. I bet they give up even less yards, though. Deion on this Raider defense? History would be different.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Dknight….geren is in his fifth season after A’s made postseason 5 of 7 years…we didnt hire Ron Washington and have this loser. The sweep of the aks this weekend is final for me. Fire that guy now
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
A’s*
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Lol@ Ray Lewis saying crime will increase if no season. Is Ray talking about himself? Crime is increasing period and football has nada to with it. Fkin bible belt fake christian dummy
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Brien, several pro sports seasons have been shortened due to work stoppage. In the NFL, you have 1988, 1982, etc. Redskins won both years. That’s weird. But history has pretty much forgiven it. I think the Redskins were the legitimate champs both of those years. Every team in the league has the same amount of games in these instances, same amount of time to get it right. No excuses.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
1030.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Dknight….geren is in his fifth season after A’s made postseason 5 of 7 years…we didnt hire Ron Washington and have this loser. The sweep of the aks this weekend is final for me. Fire that guy now
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Getting swept the way the did by the Giants and him being out managed by Boche was it for me regarding Geren. He sucks and the A’s are not going anywhere with him as the manager. It is OBVIOUS!
They need to fire him before it is too late. Washington was the one who should have be kept and Beane hired his boy instead. One of the worst moves Beane has made since he has been here.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I have to disagree with you there, Bauce.
Ray Lewis is a BALLER.
The Raiders need a Ray Lewis leader.
Guys that can’t tolerate losing.
No more Keith Morrisons, and Thomas Howards, twittering like they won something.
Nnamdi would take the needle if he played for the Ravens.
Ray would demand it.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Brien, why do you think crime’s increasing?
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Geren is Billy Beane’s best friend and best man at the wedding. Billy would not tolerate anyone disagreeing with him. I like Billy alot but I’d take Ron Washington over this guy anyday.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Im starting to think some of the bloggers on here arent really raiders fans (Irjonny, mistbrown, and bauce watever)
Because: You can never justify to anyone why you would lose your best( pro bowl)CB Nnamdi, because of $$$
-this is the same Al davis that wasted millions upon millions of dollars of Jmarcus, DeAngelo Hall, randy moss, ect.
and you idiots out there that think he can be replaced, dont release the difficultly of playing CB for the Raiders.
Another point is that you can argue that CB is as important as any position of the time, bc he is left alone, with no support and any mistake leads directly to a TD…
How is it that all 31 teams wont him and u expect the raiders to just let him go????
Raiders will give him competitive offer and we’ll see what happens from here..
and Stop comparing him to Revis…Revis is a great CB, but he thrives on that great Def scheme. where as Nnamdi, has never had that
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
dont realize*
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Of course Nnamdi could be replaced. So could Charles Woodson and Jon Gruden.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Jon Gruden isn’t a coach.
He is a TV guy.
He will never coach in the NFL again.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Vegas,
I see you keep trying to needle the A’s fans into talking beisbol, so let me tell ya about my baseball experience this weekend.
One of my buddies works for this small company. The owner is also a big Raider fan, so they hit it off right away.
The guy has Reds season tickets. Excellent seats, right behind home plate..directly behind the diamond seats where pete Rose sits, when he’s at the games. Prime real estate. He’s let me and my friend use em several times.
Anyway, while the Reds were on the road being swept by the Indians…they held this VIP event for season ticket holders. The guy gave me his passes and I got to take my girls. it was probably a once in a lifetime opportunity. It was awesome.
My 12 year old got to go on the field and take batting practice. They announced her name over the p.a. and everything. It was replayed on the jumbotron.
I got a picture of me and the girls sitting in the reds dugout. We got to venture into parts of that stadium I’ll probably never see again..up in the luxury suites and clubhouses.
We got to meet and get autographs from former Reds Lee May and Ron Oester. The Girls got their lil Reds Heads jerseys autographed. Lee May was about as nice a gentleman as you’ll ever meet.
There was nobody else up there when we first got there.so I got to chat with Oester about a game I was at..that he played in. The Reds got into one hell of a brawl with the Mets. It was also the game Pete Rose shoved the umpire when he was manager. It was a wild game. Nobody liked those 86 Mets with Strawberry and Dykstra.
Th girls had a blast. Had their pictures taken with the mascots. My 4 year old was initially terrified of Rosie Red. They had lots of games and events for the kids. it was a blast. Beautiful day. It was an experience I’ll never forget.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
“Brien, why do you think crime’s increasing?”
Because your mom just got out of prison!
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hunter, the point is, as far as results are concerned, we still haven’t successfully replaced that “t.v. guy”.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
The Raider fans hating on Nnamdi now are being silly. Having a shut down corner is a luxury to your defense imo. Having a top passrush can help out your backfield a whole lot more than having a shut down corner with the other corners taking turn being french toast each Sunday (Routt, McFadden, CJ, Ware…etc.).
But with that said, is Al better off paying Routt 10+mil per year or paying a little extra to retain Nnamdi? I’d take Nnamdi over Routt any day.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
MR, you wouldn’t know a point if it impaled you.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Then why argue with him?
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Well, I think other readers can discern my attempted point.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Bobo Geren=the worst manager in all of baseball.He personally lost 2 of the games this weekend.He is a total moron.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
And, I think the point was so good, I’ll repeat it:
The Raiders swore Jon Gruden was replaceable. They still haven’t replaced him. No coach has come close to matching Gruden’s record yet.
The Raiders swore they’d replace Charles Woodson on the opposite side of Nnamdi. Nope.
Now, the Raiders swear Nnamdi is replaceable. Where have we heard this before?
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Mr.
I agonize at the thought of what if we had CWood and Nnamdi back there. Stop torturing me.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I’m not torturing you, AIG. I’m a messenger. Your “god” Al Davis is torturing you, and all Raider fans.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
1037.aig-raiders Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Geren is Billy Beane’s best friend and best man at the wedding. Billy would not tolerate anyone disagreeing with him. I like Billy alot but I’d take Ron Washington over this guy anyday.
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Billy Beane letting friendship get in the way of winning and business, may just be his undoing here in Oakland.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
They’re making a movie about Billy Beane. anyone know when it comes out?
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
AIG-I’d take Mickey Mouse over that clown Bobo.You could go to any little league park in the world and find a better manager than Bobo.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
They are making a movie about MR its called my secret man crush on coach Gruden and how my affair with my cousin made everyone pick on me.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Lefty,
I hear ya on Geren. The prob is Billy is so focused on playing moneyball style baseball that he will not trust any other mgr.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Mr.,
Moneyball was a hilarious book but I didnt think it was fit for a movie. Let’s hope Brad Pitt can pull this off.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
1040.RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Of course Nnamdi could be replaced. So could Charles Woodson and Jon Gruden.
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Ouch.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Nnamdi is not replaceable. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out, but Mr. Commitment to Excellence #21 is not replaceable. Sure hope Al has a fire truck on the sidelines, cause there’s gonna be a lot of burning in the Raider secondary.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
1035.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I have to disagree with you there, Bauce.
Ray Lewis is a BALLER.
The Raiders need a Ray Lewis leader.
Guys that can’t tolerate losing.
No more Keith Morrisons, and Thomas Howards, twittering like they won something.
Nnamdi would take the needle if he played for the Ravens.
Ray would demand it.
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I hope Nnamdi ends up in Baltimore if he isn’t going to be a Raider. If anyone can find a way to best use Nnamdi it will be Baltimore.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
1060.The Real Commitment to Excellence Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Nnamdi is not replaceable. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out, but Mr. Commitment to Excellence #21 is not replaceable. Sure hope Al has a fire truck on the sidelines, cause there’s gonna be a lot of burning in the Raider secondary.
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Burt Toast galore.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
or ***Burnt***
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Hard Knocks possibilities:
1. Oakland Raiders. There’s actually some positive energy in Oakland with Hue Jackson in his first year as head coach, and there are some dynamic young players such as Darren McFadden to profile. There’s also no aging mogul this side of Donald Trump than Al Davis worthy of weekly reality screen time. As a bonus, the producers might take into account some “Hard Knocks” off the field — we’ve already seen that from Michael Bush, Louis Murphy and Mario Henderson this offseason.
2. Atlanta Falcons. We know defensive end Kroy Biermann is a reality show star after making consistent cameos as Kim’s significant other on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta.” Beyond the Bravo-HBO crossover potential, Biermann is part of an exciting young team on the rise that would be fun to follow. The series would be headlined by the offensive triplets of Matt Ryan, Michael Turner and Roddy White, but there also would be some good contrast pieces to do, such as looking at Julio Jones as a rookie vs. Tony Gonzalez as a 15-year veteran. Unfortunately, coach Mike Smith just shot down this possibility late Monday afternoon via NFL Network, but it was fun to think about while the buzz lasted.
3. Washington Redskins. Just look at how much drama this team has generated in the past week with all three quarterbacks simply saying something. If John Beck, Rex Grossman or Donovan McNabb hasn’t got you going yet, just imagine what you might get from Albert Haynesworth and DeAngelo Hall, just for starters. It’s too bad the already team released its most colorful personality: Clinton Portis. And there’s no word if Daniel Snyder would require an extra premium fee for D.C.-area cable subscribers just to watch Redskins camp on TV.
4. Green Bay Packers. It’s time for HBO to go back the Cheese League, and the timing couldn’t be better with the Pack ruling the NFL as Super Bowl champions. Aaron Rodgers would obviously be the star, but the defense offers plenty in personalities such as B.J. Raji, Clay Matthews and Charles Woodson. It also would be a chance for unfamiliar viewers to share in the traditions around Lambeau Field and St. Norbert College in De Pere, Wis., including the big one of lucky young kids getting to ride bicycles with the players.
5. New England Patriots. The Patriots have the most photogenic NFL star of them all who is used to cameras following him around: Tom Brady. This will never happen, however, because Bill Belichick treats training camp like a covert government operation. Our best bet for something Brady-related would be a reality show following wife Gisele Bundchen at work — which might be more marketable to HBO’s target demographic, anyway.
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-05-23/five-nfl-teams-that-would-rock-on-hard-knocks#ixzz1NDDBpULD
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Silly hick.
Thanks for regurgitating what everyone already knows.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
1065.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Silly hick.
Thanks for regurgitating what everyone already knows.
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Poor thing, I must have really embarrassed you in the past….made you change your handle and filled you with anger lol. I love it.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
What no lol?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
At least you still have 2/12 Men.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Any of you guys who follow players via twitter heard anything about the workouts in Atl yet?
Such as who’s in attendance, and what’s going on, etc.
I think these organized workouts are a great thing…as long as nobody wrenches a knee or reaggravates a turf toe…kinda thing. Knock on wood.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
What was your old handle Dr?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Handle???
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Dakota, have you ever read a book in your life?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I have not read Fear and Loathing if that is what you are asking.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Coloring books do not count.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
My bad…I guess the workouts start tomorrow. lol.
Jerry’s old post says they run from 5/24-5/26. Oops.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
So, why are you so afraid of telling me what name you posted comments under prior to this laughable one.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Maybe the Bible is more your speed.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Damn, you must have taken quite a beating under your old handle if you don’t even have the courage to acknowledge it.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Dude, your annoying.
I’m sure it’s not the first time someone has commented on this fact.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
When was the last time you gave anyone a “beating”?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Hey, 46,000.00 prisoners may have to be released in Cali after today’s ruling by the Supreme Court. Maybe some of you will finally get to meet your Moms or Dads?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Comedy is clearly not your strong suit.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Maybe you should just stick to being IGNORANT.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Lol, must have been brutal! You must feel pretty weak having to slink back in here under a new name. Is that how you handle all your problems? Run away and cower?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
LOL is for little girls.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Changing handles is for pzzzzies
LOL
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
You live in Dakota.
I live in CALIFORNIA.
Who is the COWARD?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Dakota, ask a thousand Americans, anywhere throughout the country, where they would rather live between California or North/South Dakota. I’ll bet you at least 900 of them say Cali.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Dude, HANDLES????
You are not a truck driver.
You are an internet dweeb who lives in the sticks.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
1087.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
You live in Dakota.
I live in CALIFORNIA.
Who is the COWARD?
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Why….earthquakes?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
1088.RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Dakota, ask a thousand Americans, anywhere throughout the country, where they would rather live between California or North/South Dakota. I’ll bet you at least 900 of them say Cali.
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I agree with that. I love parts of Cali. Have many relatives that live there. I have nothing against Cali. Relax.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Dakota, if this blog’s moderators were as harsh on instigators as they were on those who react, you would have been banned years ago. They just don’t have the time so they ban the most offensive people first, and in many cases those are just people who’ve had enough of being insulted.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Because I could buy the entire state for a weeks pay.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
What did I say that insulted you RAIDER? Just curious.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
1093.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Because I could buy the entire state for a weeks pay.
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LMFAO….too funny. Really that insecure huh?
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I get it Dakota. Your mother had sex with her brother and you are the most intelligent person in your town.
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
You didn’t insult anyone. You are just a typical hick that hasn’t see THE WORLD.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Dakota, if this blog’s moderators were as harsh on instigators as they were on those who react, you would have been banned years ago. They just don’t have the time so they ban the most offensive people first, and in many cases those are just people who’ve had enough of being insulted.
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Too funny, I wonder how many people have had issues with Dakota and threatended to track him down v. how many people have had problems with you and threatened to track you down?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
How much did your shed cost?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:01 pm
1097.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 2:59 pm
You didn’t insult anyone. You are just a typical hick that hasn’t see THE WORLD.
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Oh, so now you are some world traveler too. Keep going, this is too much. better start thinking about your next handle though……
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:07 pm
1099.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
How much did your shed cost?
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I have two sheds on my property near my home….so which one? One has the mower, trimmer etc. in it the other stores our decorations, bikes and patio furniture during winter.
Are you in the market for a shed?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, you have nothing against Cali? You just assumed most Californians to have incarcerated parents! That’s not an endearing assumption.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
If you took all the people out of California jails that cant pay their child support and were convicted for drug use you might shed 140,000 prisoners.
There is no need to house debtors and addicts in a prison get them help and get them working instead of us supporting them.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The point is HICK, you can’t compete in the real world.
That’s why you live where you live.
Many people who are born where you live do the sensible thing and leave.
Remember them.
They had HEART.
You on the other hand…
All that remains are INBRED.
Do you ever notice why the women are always better looking when you travel?
It is called NATURAL SELECTION.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
DutchRaider, who threatened to track me down?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
1102.RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Dakota, you have nothing against Cali? You just assumed most Californians to have incarcerated parents! That’s not an endearing assumption.
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Certainly not most Californians…..just some of you on the Raider blog maybe. Just trying to give someone a friendly heads up! Or maybe one of you narced on someone who might be getting out? Hey I have your best interests in mind.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Go Raiders!
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Dakota you clearly have a problem with California.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
666, people should be careful not to rush to judgment. Imagine a congressman putting forth a bill that would release non violent drug offenders and replace them with Raider fans, any Raider fans. You tell me if his poll numbers would go up or down.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
1108.RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Dakota you clearly have a problem with California.
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Oh? Do tell.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:24 pm
DutchRaider, who threatened to track me down?
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My bad, you are the darling of the blog. Everyone loves you and respects your opinion.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Dakota is a jerk off,
that can not be tolerated.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Come on Dakota, tell us all about Howie Long and Marcus Allen.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Well, I certainly don’t believe everyone loves and respects my opinion, either. But I don’t recall anyone ever threatening to track me down. That’s news to me.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Well, I certainly don’t believe everyone loves and respects my opinion, either. But I don’t recall anyone ever threatening to track me down. That’s news to me.
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Really, like Bauce and his friend? Or how about your lunch date at Chevys a few months ago?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
MR, You wish anyone cared about what you thought.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
DutchRaider, as far as I know, nobody has threatened to track me down, as you put it. I think you might have gotten a little too excited about some of the exchanges in here. Most of the time we’re goofing around.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Get them jobs? Where?
I guess you haven’t noticed unemployment has been over 9% for about 24 months straight. That number doesn’t even include the drop off’s or under employed people. The real unemployment number is around 20%.
Pres purp lips is real good at putting Americans on food stamps though!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
If you took all the people out of California jails that cant pay their child support and were convicted for drug use you might shed 140,000 prisoners.
There is no need to house debtors and addicts in a prison get them help and get them working instead of us supporting them.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
What a sad place this has become.
You have MR having full conversations with himself, apparently having 3-5 different proxy sites open, with a different name under each one, actually arguing with himself, then making up with himself, while everyone laughs at him, with him admitting he’s doing it?
And some wonder why this blog has gone to hell?
MR, you’re so damn stupid you post under one handle, and immediately answer under another handle, then reply back, in the same minute.
If I sat at home, all day, in mommy’s spare sewing room, at 40, having extended conversations with myself, under different handles, every day, like MR does?
Does anything say LOSER more than that?
Now is when you reply back with “ya, ArchiveTony does” then prop yourself under a different handle….
then squirm knowing it’s dead on, Scott.
LOSER
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
MR did you have a lunch date with your cousin ?
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DutchRaider77 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Really, like Bauce and his friend? Or how about your lunch date at Chevys a few months ago?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Well, Hunter, a lot of people respond to my comments. I don’t know if that means they care about my thoughts or not, but they certainly have a lot to say about my points of view.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
892.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 am
Nnamdi is soft and isnt a leader. He doesnt make big plays is an average tackler and doesnt do anything to inspire his teammates. Get this lifeless loser outta here now. Take that cotton soft wimp Huff too
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Wow…probably one of the dumbest things I have ever heard regarding a Raider player who is as good and classy as Nnamdi.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Oh yeah, I remember that.
MR got challenged to show at chevy’s, and he asked KrazyKell if he could go for him.
Something about his mother wouldn’t give him bus money.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
MB, jobs are out there. They just don’t pay as much. This is due to globalization. The American worker just isn’t as much in demand anymore, and this has been the case long before your nemesis took the oath. You have to stay positive, look where you can. You may have to go into business for yourself. It’s rough. But a lot of people have it worse than you. So there’s no point in complaining, or sitting on your butt and blaming the president. You have to grab yourself by the boot straps and try.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
1118.MistaBrown Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Get them jobs? Where?
I guess you haven’t noticed unemployment has been over 9% for about 24 months straight. That number doesn’t even include the drop off’s or under employed people. The real unemployment number is around 20%.
Pres purp lips is real good at putting Americans on food stamps though!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:12 pm
If you took all the people out of California jails that cant pay their child support and were convicted for drug use you might shed 140,000 prisoners.
There is no need to house debtors and addicts in a prison get them help and get them working instead of us supporting them.
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Nah, they shouldn’t be in society, they should go to war.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
LOL.
See?
There’s MR replying to himself as hunter.
You’re a classic psycho, you know that, right Scott?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
975.Bauce Rules Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Until you guys sit with a current NFL player and disect both charger games last year you cant tell me shhhht on the Nnamdi matter. Also he is soft cuz the strength and conditioning coach told me. And around organization they all think the same thing
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Nnamdi can’t be any “softer” than Routt, CJ, McFadden, Ware, Van Dyke and Chekwa can he??
I think not….
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Tell us again, Raider, about your reviews of Chevy’s, where you stated you “would” have shown up, except you found a review of someone who didn’t like their service, so you tucked tail, and went into fetal position.
That’s always good for a laugh, MR.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
MR, if jobs are out there why is there 36 mil on food stamps? A record number, one of pres derelict accomplishments by the way! I have a job, what do you know about boot straps?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@DKnight007
Reavis or Nnamdi?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I feel sorry for this “Scott” guy, whoever he is. Because he’s definitely a victim of mistaken identity. If I were him I’d set up some surveillance around his house, contact the police just for the record. Overzealous sports fans are weird these days. They’re becoming more like 3rd world sports fans. I wouldn’t take any chances if I were him.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Surprise me, MR, on who you reply as.
Dan Land, or Paine, or Dr, or Raider, or any of the other dozen or so handles you currently use.
How’s your aunt?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Why is #21 classy?
Have you met him on numerous occasions or do you think that someone that speaks into a mic after another tough loss classy ?
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DKnight007 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Wow…probably one of the dumbest things I have ever heard regarding a Raider player who is as good and classy as Nnamdi.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
My review of Chevy’s? Not bad. Too much of an early 20’s crowd, the type of kids who think every venue is a hole in the wall bar. Better to go early in the day. Food isn’t bad. Decent looking women work there. Don’t know what else to say.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
That’s it, mama’s boy?
A reply@Scott?
Come on, borrow someone’s balls, or pretend you have a pair, and explain your non-existent life, that is centered here, living under split personalities.
Cringe, mama’s boy, lol, cringe.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I’m glad you have a job, MB. I don’t know what you’re complaining about, then. If you have a job today, you’re lucky. So how about a little less whining?
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
this rant has been up for so long it’s embarassing.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Well, I’m sure Scott would be just devastated to know that you think he’s a “mamas boy”, Tony, whoever he is. Don’t know why you’re addressing me as him. I assure you, you have the wrong person.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Pres derelict gets a free ride from our media why should I take my boot off his neck?
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RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I’m glad you have a job, MB. I don’t know what you’re complaining about, then. If you have a job today, you’re lucky. So how about a little less whining?
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
All presidents get a free ride from our media. In fact, I think Bill Clinton got the harshest treatment from the media in recent history. Arnold had a bastard child, unknown to his wife and family, his entire time as governor. The media is acting as if he merely got caught at a strip club. The same media also ignored several women back in 2003 who insisted Arnold sexually harassed them. If anybody gets a pass these days from the media, it’s Republicans.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
THen tell Al to stop drafting all these m’fn cornerbacks if a Pro-Bowl talent is a wash for the overall defense
Madness.
Now if someone shows me the prized free agent(s) that we get with the savings from Nnamdi’s contract, then I will be cool with it.
But if the answer is we re-signed “Stanford Routt, Wimbley and Eugene” then that would suggest a failure.
Routt was way overpaid. Period.
Wimbley is fine, but they better turn him loose.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Using the tem “Purple Lips” is HIGHLY offensive
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Why don’t other teams throw at Nnamdi consistently? Who are they picking on so much to get 30 pass tds?
What possible reason do the Raiders have for not having their number 1 cornerback shadowing the other team’s top receiver? Seems stupid
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“When in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, ….”
If I succeeded from California would that also get me out of the Union?
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
SnB, MB admitted a couple of weeks ago that he calls the president “purple lips” to get even with the way Bush was treated. How mature, huh?
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
If someone was using derogatory racial terms to describe GW Bush…then that was wrong too.
Purple Lips is just plain racist.
Raider, you are right…not very mature
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Like Bush is MB’s dad or something. He was REALLY offended by people making fun of him. lol.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Twocents, The word is “seceded”.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Did a commenter named “twocents” just address himself? Hmm.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Yes RAIDER, I corrected myself.
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:47 pm
lol. ok….
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Buckeye,
Cool story. Did you get in the cage and take some hacks? I would have elbowed kids out of the way, for the opportunity to rake on a pro ball-field, lol.
I remember Ron Oester a little. Big ugly guy, middle infielder if I remember.
Those Indians are something else this year huh??
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Rio Bravo just started on AMC
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
OMG Claude Atkins is a man whore and a drunk
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Did a commenter named “twocents” just address himself? Hmm.
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Wow, you caught your self MR.
Good job Scott.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
1141.SnB Production Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
THen tell Al to stop drafting all these m’fn cornerbacks if a Pro-Bowl talent is a wash for the overall defense
Madness.
Now if someone shows me the prized free agent(s) that we get with the savings from Nnamdi’s contract, then I will be cool with it.
But if the answer is we re-signed “Stanford Routt, Wimbley and Eugene” then that would suggest a failure.
Routt was way overpaid. Period.
^^^^^^^^
This is EXACTLY how I feel about it also!
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
1133.MistaBrown Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Why is #21 classy?
Have you met him on numerous occasions or do you think that someone that speaks into a mic after another tough loss classy ?
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DKnight007 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Wow…probably one of the dumbest things I have ever heard regarding a Raider player who is as good and classy as Nnamdi.
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Well, cause he has done a crap load of things in the community, is a leader on and off the field and has not been arrested or busted for sippin the sizeerup purple drank!
Sounds like a classy guy to me.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Vegas,
It was really cool. Nah, I didn’t get to take batting practice. I would’ve liked to, but only one person per group was allowed. So I let my oldest daughter do it.
She’s a pretty good lil softball player. She took some decent hacks, too…sprayed a couple of line drives into the outfield. Probably did better than I would have.lol.
Ron Oester was a pretty good 2nd baseman on some bad Reds teams in the ’80s.
Lee May was a lil before my time. He was a big hitting 1st baseman for the Big Red Machine in the late 60s early 70s before Tony Perez, I believe.
He was a heckuva nice guy. He was getting a kick out my 4 year old. He was telling her not to be scared. She was all about giving Rosie Red a big hug until she saw her up close, standing about eight feet tall with her giant baseball head and oversized mascot shoes. Then she hanging onto me for dear life.
It was a lot of run. The Indians are defenitely for real..but my Reds have hit the skids. They swept St Louis to take over 1st place…and haven’t won since. Going on six in a row. A lot of baseball left.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:43 pm
1130.DutchRaider77 Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@DKnight007
Reavis or Nnamdi?
^^^^^^^^
1a and 1b to me…..either one.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Just to liven things up, I read about this “conspiracy theory” today.
Saddam Hussein wanted all his oil sales denominated in Euros, not the Dollar. A year later his country was invaded.
Muammar Gaddafi wanted his trades not in Dollars or Euros but in the gold Dinar, now he is under attack.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn wanted the IMF to adopt a new Reserve currency, not the Dollar. Now he is in jail.
Got to make one think.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
1,160 posts? Are you kidding me?
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Anyway …read through and someone mentioned JLH way back there somewhere
You know JLH was never the same guy after he got clocked. It was like a championship fighter getting TKO’d. They’re never the same afterwards.
He just lost it.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Terrapin,
I’m sure we’ll get a new post from Jerry when that workout begins in Atl tomorrow. I tried to jump the gun a bit, earlier today. Oh well.
He’ll probably pass along some player tweets or something. At least give us a new thread.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Terp,
You’re right about JLH, and it’s a shame. He was a heckuva punt returner. Took three to the house and ’bout broke several others. Promising WR prospect too.
Now, it’s obvious he’s gun shy. He’s hesitant as a returner. When he doesn’t call for a fair catch, he seemingly runs backwards trying to avoid contact. It’s sad. I’m sure he’s gone this year. His roster spot is probably going to a combination of rookies D Moore and T. Jones. I hope Jones gets a shot at PR. He sounds explosive.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
For those who still think Satele has a chance to start at center, see this:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/05/21/wisniewski-ready-to-start-and-reconnect-with-uncle
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Anybody hear from RaiderRockstar today? Wonder if he’s ok?
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Good point KK. Dang I hope RR is alright.
It’s sad that we spend a gazillion on our defense industry each year only to let our citizens die from stuff like Tornadoes and Floods. We should be building Tornado shelters like bomb shelters in areas at risk.
May 23rd, 2011 at 7:13 pm
The Satele/Wiz starting is a win win situation whomever wins the job we have a great backup also a potential starter at OG. Why worry about who starts as long as we have both players I’ll take either guy. The key thing is to have the depth we didn’t have last year.
You know I was watching the SD when satele went out and Veldheer played C and Henderson had to step in and play LT. I was very pleased with his performance vs SD in Veldheers place. Most iun here are very down on henderson for soem strange reason maybe Veldheer is a better LT but I gaurantee you Henderson is no slouch at RT. If indeed he ends up there I like that alternative.
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
wtf…..everyone bashing #21 because OUR owner paid him mad money that set the bar for every other cb in the league….all he has been is a class act…get over it bauce, hes the best cb out there today….funny that you mention that you spoke to a coach that claimed he was soft…..i was at a bbq a couple of weeks ago were a staff member was at….i could of swore him mentioning how badly #21 would be missed on the field and off…..hell hasnt revis missed more games then #21…..and how funny that revis “pulled” his hammy right after moss made him look silly for a td…..
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
According to Jerry, Mario was offered a one year contract, and he passed on it.
Since than he got a DUI, and possibly a one game suspension.
Al doesn’t like getting spurned, so I doubt they offer Mario another contract.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Guys look Al Davis does whatever is necessary to get the job done all of you guys with these supposed Al Davis idiosychracies is ridiculous the man is a football man he aint some sensitive old women worrying about her feelings. Mario simply wants an honest opportunity to play if he gets that he’ll sign for a decent contract. It’s not like a ton of teams are vying for his services. Make him a decn3t offer and he’ll sign……………period
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
If Al davis were as sensitive as some of you make him out to be he could never field a team.
May 24th, 2011 at 1:10 am
MB, cheer up! We have a president again who can handle a couple of drinks.
http://bit.ly/j3DKPR
May 24th, 2011 at 4:03 am
Offense
Yes, the Raiders had one of the best run games in the N.F.L. Problem is, they were handcuffed in the passing game. You can’t win that way. It’s remarkable they won as often as they did considering how they frequently hid Jason Campbell (honestly, you’ll never see so many variations of screen passes…).
Everything Campbell did seemed too methodical, and he was never comfortable when the waters around him got the least bit murky. This made it very difficult for Raider receivers to get in a rhythm (though bouts of drops may have also hindered their rhythm). Unfortunately, Zach Miller, one of the steadiest all-around tight ends in the league, was also compromised.
As for that run game, give credit to Darren McFadden for improving his power and hip flexibility. And give credit to Tom Cable for devising a run-blocking scheme that brought out the best in Oakland’s front five. Long and athletic left tackle Jared Veldheer did a fine job for being a raw, small-school rookie. Left guard Robert Gallery was sound in the run game. Veteran right guard Cooper Carlisle moved well, and size alone made right tackle Langston Walker adequate.
Defense
This was not a bad unit considering how much emphasis Oakland’s man-coverage-based scheme put on individual performance. Nnamdi Asomugha almost never got thrown on. No. 2 corner Stanford Routt was up and down, but most players would be in his situation. Safeties Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch were not great, but Huff had his best season thanks to a variety of space-oriented plays (more in the box, not downfield) while Branch remained functional against the run.
The problem for the Raiders was that mistakes by linebackers often resulted in big gains. The rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain didn’t play with much instinct or lateral quickness. That’s a problem when your outside linebackers – Kamerion Wimbley, Trevor Scott and Quintin Groves – are converted defensive ends (even if those converted defensive ends played with good energy). Buttressing this defense was the stellar play of Tommy Kelly and the often-spectacular play of Richard Seymour.
Myth Buster
Mario Henderson is a bust
The four-year offensive tackle has not been the most consistent performer, but a player with his kind of athleticism can’t be hastily dismissed. Henderson was adequate in his early stints at left tackle this past season – the coaches were just eager to get rookie Jared Veldheer on the field. It would be worthwhile for the Raiders to commit to Henderson for at least one more season in hopes of making him a long-term starting right tackle.
Something Positive
Defensive end Matt Shaughnessy improved across the board in his second season. After looking destined for a career as a first- and second-down contributor as a rookie, the 270-pounder improved his quickness late in plays and shed blocks well enough to infiltrate the backfield consistently. Hence his seven sacks.
May 24th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Dallas is up 3-1.
Miami will win tonight and be up 3-1 as well …
Go Heat !!!
May 24th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Dallas up 3-1…in a game they had no business winning…come on now, Thunder showing age and inexperience! There is no business Jason FN Kidd should be stealing a ball from any of those youngsters…but it is what it is…and F The Heat! And that is only because of LeBron “gee, what should I do” James! He’s a good player, but that was FN ridiculous!!!
May 24th, 2011 at 6:21 am
It was great to see J Kidd school the youngsters down the stretch like that.
Russell Westbrook may be the most athletic PG, maybe ever, but his body-language and decision-making are abysmal.
Not much mention on the airwaves last night about one sequence of plays that I thought should have. He forces a jumper with around 40 seconds left with time on the shot-clock, than plows into Marion on the rebound to give up free throws and a 2-1 scenario, that later resulted in Dirk getting fouled to tie the game.
You can’t have your PG play with such a low basketball IQ. To not know how to manage the time, and know that the other team is in the bonus or just be so careless to foul on a rebound with a lead under a minute left, was mind-boogling.
And than to sulk his shoulders and look like he wants to cry, WITH A LEAD STILL!!! I was screaming at the TV for him to get it together, because I want to see OKC win.
May 24th, 2011 at 6:37 am
JFB, Westbrook will be the reason they lose…yes, he may be the most athletic, but he ball hogs a lot and makes horrible decisions! And it is very funny how when Hardin got fouled out, the Mavs outscored them 23-6…something is wrong with that!
May 24th, 2011 at 6:41 am
The $31.5 million contract given to Stanford Routt probably kills the chance of Nnamdi’s coming back. I don’t think the Raiders can afford paying Routt more than $10 million a year and paying Richard Seymour $15 million a year and then come back and sign Nnamdi for another $15 million a year. I think he’s out of Oakland.
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Routts got to deliver
May 24th, 2011 at 6:57 am
With that being said…I love your screen name….Oo is right!
1179.oo Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 6:41 am
The $31.5 million contract given to Stanford Routt probably kills the chance of Nnamdi’s coming back. I don’t think the Raiders can afford paying Routt more than $10 million a year and paying Richard Seymour $15 million a year and then come back and sign Nnamdi for another $15 million a year. I think he’s out of Oakland.
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Routts got to deliver
May 24th, 2011 at 7:16 am
1175.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Dallas is up 3-1.
Miami will win tonight and be up 3-1 as well …
Go Heat !!!
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Miami vs Mavs again? Last time the refs handed D. Wade the trophy, so I fully expect the same thing to happen this time around.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:21 am
1177.Just Fire Baby Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 6:21 am
It was great to see J Kidd school the youngsters down the stretch like that.
Russell Westbrook may be the most athletic PG, maybe ever, but his body-language and decision-making are abysmal.
Not much mention on the airwaves last night about one sequence of plays that I thought should have. He forces a jumper with around 40 seconds left with time on the shot-clock, than plows into Marion on the rebound to give up free throws and a 2-1 scenario, that later resulted in Dirk getting fouled to tie the game.
You can’t have your PG play with such a low basketball IQ. To not know how to manage the time, and know that the other team is in the bonus or just be so careless to foul on a rebound with a lead under a minute left, was mind-boogling.
And than to sulk his shoulders and look like he wants to cry, WITH A LEAD STILL!!! I was screaming at the TV for him to get it together, because I want to see OKC win.
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Yeah, if I was a Thunder fan right about now I would be dreaming up scenarios of how to trade Westbrook to the Lakers for Artest and Fisher!
But really, the kid looks clueless out there. What is with all of his chest passes being deflected? Ever heard of a bounce pass kid? I know you are not a true PG, but come on!
May 24th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Dakota…i don’t want him in LA…Especially not for Artest! Fisher should retire.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:33 am
1183.hwnrdr Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Dakota…i don’t want him in LA…Especially not for Artest! Fisher should retire.
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Really? You like Artest that much? I’d make that trade in a heartbeat. Actually, I am hoping Westbrook’s antics make Durant want to leave town….
May 24th, 2011 at 7:36 am
At least the Lakers didn’t go down without a FIGHT.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Kobe cemented his legacy as the great leader he clearly is.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Durant, Kobe and Howard on one team? That would be interesting…but would you think what’s his name…Adelman (SP) from Sacramento an coach them up?
May 24th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Kobe isn’t perfect, but as a Kings fan I know you would sell your kidney to have a guy go to 7 finals and bring home 5 rings….
May 24th, 2011 at 7:43 am
basketball again….well I guess its better than listening to KK debate womens rights.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:45 am
SWEEP.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Hwnrdr,
Of all the guys on the list so far Adelman is the guy I want. And I want the team to stay intact, barring of course a trade of Bynum and parts to Orlando for Howard.
Otherwise keep the team together and add a PG who can play a modicum of defense. New coach plus the redemption motivation plus a little D at the PG spot = ring #17.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Kings fan?
Try again.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:49 am
1192.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Kings fan?
Try again.
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riiiiiight
May 24th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Kobe is done.
The Lakers are done.
You might as well jump ship now.
Tell us again who you became a Laker fan.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Let me help you out moron, YOUR WIFE IS FAT.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Howard will leave Orlando over the off season and become a Laker.
Kobie and Howard will be a beast next year. No doubt in my mind.
Howard loves the limelight and attention and what better way to get it then in LA.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Bynum meet Mickey Mouse you are out.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:53 am
LOL keep tryin’.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Wishful thinking.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:54 am
trying what?
May 24th, 2011 at 7:56 am
*******What is so great about Routt?****************
The question for the day. What is so great about Routt?
I have never been a Routt fan and for the life of me I can’t see why we paid him so much money. I just don’t see what is so special about this guy on the field.
Please share with me any play or stat that makes this guy worth the cash. I just can’t see it but maybe it is me.
Please share…………………………..
May 24th, 2011 at 7:58 am
1197.CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Bynum meet Mickey Mouse you are out.
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If Bynum didn’t have the knee issues I would rather keep him than Howard. He has a much better low post game and much softer hands catching entry passes than Howard…..but those weak azz knees simply cannot be relied upon.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Dude, You rely on LOL a bit much.
I know you are inbred but come on.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Aldeman would be the man for the job he did a great job in Portland when he was there always a underrated coach imho.
Westbrook is looking like a joke he I would think Scotty Brooks would be able to reign him in guess not thou……..
p
May 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Howard isn’t coming to the Lakers,
Unless he wants Kobe’s wife to rat him out.
Nobody wants to play with Kobe.
He is a RAT.
He actually looks like a rat.
All the great ones get SWEPT.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Dude, You rely on LOL a bit much.
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Lol, I do not, lol.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Yeah Dakota,
He is out more games then he is in and Kobie does not havce that much jump left in his knees. I think his game has peaked. He needs someone else to help carry the team, like he did when Shaq Daddy was a Laker.
Kobie also needs to develop a nice fade away jumper like Jordan did when his knees started to go. Soemthing he can rely on to make him a consistant weapon.
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1202.Dakota Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:58 am
1197.CJ Legend 34 Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Bynum meet Mickey Mouse you are out.
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If Bynum didn’t have the knee issues I would rather keep him than Howard. He has a much better low post game and much softer hands catching entry passes than Howard…..but those weak azz knees simply cannot be relied upon.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf–UNnDXCg
That was a amazing Routt int….
May 24th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Oaklifer,
I think that was the play of the year!
May 24th, 2011 at 8:09 am
LOL had to be Dakota it waas one of the only ones that caught my eye…LOL lol lmao….i rely on that quite a bit
May 24th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Questions:
Do we sign Plaxico
Does Aso come back
Do we sign FA Olinemen
Who will be our #2 QB
Who will replace Huff or does he re-sign at Safety
This lockout has it all on hold…
May 24th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Come on DAKOTA, how did a hick from the sticks become a Laker fan????
Don’t be ashamed.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:14 am
I have never been a Routt fan and for the life of me I can’t see why we paid him so much money
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CJ, we were just starting to get good “value” from Routt last year as a 2nd round pick, as he emerged as a solid #2 corner, at least for a season.
Now Al goes and pays him top 10 DB money, and if/when Nnamdi leaves, Routt will have to improve his play even more, to present any type of value.
He does play some lock-down corner occasionally, but not enough consistantly over the years, to not scare me a little going into the season.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Don’t be such a PU$$Y.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:15 am
1210.OAKlifer Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:09 am
LOL had to be Dakota it waas one of the only ones that caught my eye…LOL lol lmao….i rely on that quite a bit
LMFAO!
ROTGL!
ROTFL!
ROTFLOL!
ROTFLMFAO!
May 24th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Questions:
Do we sign Plaxico= No dont see Al signing a Vet WR even tho we need one
Does Aso come back= Would love to see this but his heart as a Raider is no longer this gentleman yearns to win and will leave for a contender…
Do we sign FA Olinemen=Yes we will have to replace gallery and possibly Henderson i think….There will be a big name here i Think or trade…..
Who will be our #2 QB=No-brainer Southwick is the man
Who will replace Huff or does he re-sign at Safety=If Aso leaves I think we retain Huff not long term thou..
This lockout has it all on hold…= greedy PR(@$……..
May 24th, 2011 at 8:17 am
At least you still have 2 1/2 Men.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:18 am
1211.raidertalk Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Questions:
Do we sign Plaxico-NO
Does Aso come back-He better
Do we sign FA Olinemen-We better
Who will be our #2 QB-Frye
Who will replace Huff or does he re-sign at Safety-Huff sucks and his replacement will suck too.
This lockout has it all on hold…yep
May 24th, 2011 at 8:21 am
zzzzzzzzz
You are getting boring Dr.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:23 am
If the Lakers were still playing, you would be talking non stop trash.
But they went down like the PU$$IES they are and we don’t hear a peep out of you.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:24 am
LOL.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Questions:
Do we sign Plaxico
Does Aso come back
Do we sign FA O linemen
Who will be our #2 QB
Who will replace Huff or does he re-sign at Safety
good question that’s what we want to know Jerry
May 24th, 2011 at 8:35 am
1220.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:23 am
If the Lakers were still playing, you would be talking non stop trash.
But they went down like the PU$$IES they are and we don’t hear a peep out of you.
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Of course I would be. Instead now I am talking about the future of the Lakers, and have been since the day they were eliminated. I have been right here talking about the Lakers the entire time hiding from nothing.
….but really, trash talk about the Lakers from a guy that supports the team you do is really just laughable. .
May 24th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Hey the Kings need fans to Dakota….
May 24th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Questions:
Do we sign Plaxico- cheaper than v.jax
Does Aso come back- hes gone gentlemen
Do we sign FA Olinemen-depends on who
Who will be our #2 QB-VY or mcnabb
Who will replace Huff or does he re-sign at Safety-s.brown or routt we drafted corners why not two 4.2 guys on the field(routt&DVD)
May 24th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I personally hate basketball and complain about people in here talking about it so much……however as a non fan I find it hard to believe that anyone can say anything bad about a team that won back to back titles and fell short of a three peat.
You would appear much more intelligent if you were to say the Warriors suck.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:41 am
They need that and more don’t they OAKlifer? LOL!
May 24th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Who will be our #2 QB-VY or mcnabb
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Dont think either of those guys will be a possibility They both think they should start and that would cause some trouble imho…JC will be the man this year with Frye backing him up and Southwick or some journeyman for the 3rd QB no big names thou dont see it happening
May 24th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I love how everyone every year that the Lakers get ousted in the playoffs or not make it always say that the Lakers are done…Been a Laker fan since 79 when Magic got drafted out of Michigan State. So, 32 years, 10 Championships, and countless other times being the best of the West…they may go down for a bit but not long! And in no means any disrespect for anyone that Hates the Lakers!
But hey…isn’t this a Raider Blog? LOL
May 24th, 2011 at 8:45 am
They need that and more don’t they OAKlifer? LOL!
*********
They need a city it sounds like…..And now the starting line up for your Anaheim Kings!!!!!! LOL
May 24th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Hey Jerr,
How’s the mini vacation going man?
May 24th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Dont think either of those guys will be a possibility They both think they should start and that would cause some trouble imho…JC will be the man this year with Frye backing him up and Southwick or some journeyman for the 3rd QB no big names thou dont see it happening
i want a backup to feel that way who doesn’t want to start nobody wants to be a backup
May 24th, 2011 at 8:51 am
1229.hwnrdr Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I love how everyone every year that the Lakers get ousted in the playoffs or not make it always say that the Lakers are done…Been a Laker fan since 79 when Magic got drafted out of Michigan State. So, 32 years, 10 Championships, and countless other times being the best of the West…they may go down for a bit but not long! And in no means any disrespect for anyone that Hates the Lakers!
But hey…isn’t this a Raider Blog? LOL
+++++++++
No doubt!
It is a Raiders blog, but Jerry gave us the okay long ago to talk about anything sports related. GOOOO LAKERS!
But I certainly will not stand in the way of anyone who wants to debate which free agent player (if they actually might be a free agent player under a new CBA and assuming there will be a season next year, and assuming certain Raider players will or will not be around and assuming the world doesn’t come to an end first) the Raiders should sign!
May 24th, 2011 at 8:52 am
How can anyone say bad things about the Lakers????
FACTS:
They got swept.
They showed no HEART.
They showed NO CLASS.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:55 am
GOOO LAKERS!
May 24th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Big Oak Boy Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:49 am
i want a backup to feel that way who doesn’t want to start nobody wants to be a backup
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I do agree with this 100% I think your back up should show some fire but this is a young team on the brink with a rookie head coach and a few question marks…but the QB position is not one of them at this point JC is more than serviceable we need to focus on other positions not the Back up qb spot Frye will do…..
May 24th, 2011 at 9:07 am
1234.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:52 am
How can anyone say bad things about the Lakers????
FACTS:
They got swept.
They showed no HEART.
They showed NO CLASS.
You are right about that…Bynums attack on Barera (even though that guy is a nuance…lol) was very wrong! Odom just did to Dirk what dirk did to him the play before! Nonetheless, it was classless of them…but hey…I’ll stick to my team just as I stick to my Raiders and A’s…
May 24th, 2011 at 9:07 am
1234.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 8:52 am
How can anyone say bad things about the Lakers????
FACTS:
They got swept.
They showed no HEART.
They showed NO CLASS.
+++++++++++
The death of a king is usually ugly, and it was in this case as well….but the Lakers will rise again and re-take the crown. But the Kings never will lol! Ironic huh?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Miami vs Mavs again? Last time the refs handed D. Wade the trophy, so I fully expect the same thing to happen this time around.
***
Dakota,
well said. I’ll take it!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:10 am
You have to admit, they basically QUIT.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Double R,
Long time no talk man how is life??
May 24th, 2011 at 9:10 am
I would rather watch curling than basketball but whatever turns your crank.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Okay, IDIOT.
Let me help you out.
BILL PICKEL.
How does it feel to ALWAYS BE WRONG.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Anybody hear from RaiderRockstar today? Wonder if he’s ok?
Dang I hope RR is alright.
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thanks for the thoughts Kell & AIG !!!
Joplin, MO is less than 100 miles away and 3/4 of that city got reduced to rubble. largest death toll for a tornado in over 100 years
I’ve driven through their to the Tulsa airport many times heading West on I-44
May 24th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Why do you call yourself Rockstar?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Long time no talk man how is life??
***
good man. how are you doing ???
I heard your Trail Blazers are planning on shipping Aldridge & Roy to L.A. in exchange for Kobe Bryant
May 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Why do you call yourself Rockstar?
***
I have no clue. I’ve thought about changing my name to “Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman” many times
thoughts?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am
I’m great bro….i think it was Roy and Aldridge for Odem and Fisher LOL…Lamarcus will be a Blazer for life!! [i [i hope]
May 24th, 2011 at 9:19 am
why are we still talking about Nnamdi?
he already signed with the Washington Redskins.
Vince Young & Rex Grossman will battle it out to be his starting QB over in D.C.
Fat Albert & Donny McNabb are both gonna get sent packin’
May 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am
i think it was Roy and Aldridge for Odem and Fisher
***
who would want Odom & Fisher as starters?
Cleveland?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 am
My thoughts are there seems to be a disproportional amount of HICKS on this blog.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:21 am
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Hmm thats what is going on huh????
1250th!!!!!!!!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Andre Johnson pleads for Texans to keep Vonta Leach
-PFT
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Anybody think that DHB will plead for the Raiders to keep Marcel Reece?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:24 am
who would want Odom & Fisher as starters?
Cleveland?
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LOL the Anaheim Kings Of Los Angeles could use some help!!!!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am
My thoughts are there seems to be a disproportional amount of HICKS on this blog.
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excellent point, doctor.
care for a possum sandwich?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am
1243.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Okay, IDIOT.
Let me help you out.
BILL PICKEL.
How does it feel to ALWAYS BE WRONG.
_____________
No wonder you changed your handle lol. You accuse me of hiding after a Lakers loss but you completely disappeared and later had to come back under a pseudonym after our last debate and the subsequent Celtics loss. How does it feel to be a complete coward? Too funny. And you and I both know that Bill Pickel was just another pseudonym anyhow. Sad fool.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The Lakers have nothing to trade.
They are old and slow.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am
I don’t live here.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:28 am
time to get some work done …
Hunter: from one HICK to another, I hope you have a great day
May 24th, 2011 at 9:29 am
When was the last time you saw a good looking women where you lived?
Say hi to your wife for me.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am
screw charlie frye i would rather have tavaris jax
May 24th, 2011 at 9:31 am
It’s not to late for you RR.
Move out of the sticks.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:34 am
troy smith or even gradkowski over charlie frye
May 24th, 2011 at 9:39 am
“Dr. Hunter S. Thompson” you have been exposed for the pathetic troll that you are. I made you cry months ago and you had to run off and lick your wounds only to come back under yet another name and fail again with your 3rd grade level of trash talk. You really hold a grudge don’t you? LOL!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I live in San Jose and we don’t eat road kill but there are a lot of Mexican restaurants, so maybe I am eating road kill and I don’t know it?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Thank god your wife doesn’t hold a grudge.
I know you won’t be able to answer this but what the hell,
when did you make me cry?
Was it the time you lost that bet with me or the time you pu$$ied out and refused to make that bet?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Still too afraid to send me your address? lol
Meooooow.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Don’t hurt your self.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Here pzzy pzzy pzzy…
May 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Check back laters….have a good one Nation!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Just trying to get on your level!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Why would I send you my address?
What’s yours?
May 24th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Listen troll boy with an unhealthy infatuation of me. Why don’t we spare everyone else your boring stalking and we can have this conversation privately? e-mail me at fukeurope@yahoo.com. I will converse with you all you want….maybe we can even make an arrangement to meet up and talk man to man if you are up for it.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Dude you are killing me.
You want to meet up man to man?
Then what?
I think we both know you are a little too fat and a little too old for that sort of thing.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
1274.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Dude you are killing me.
You want to meet up man to man?
Then what?
I think we both know you are a little too fat and a little too old for that sort of thing.
++++++++++++++
E-mail me and lets find out.
May 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I’m going to fill up ur inbox with useless junk about how much i hate the Lakers and how the Blazers RULE LOL!!!!!!!
May 24th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I think we both know you couldn’t punch your way out of a wet paper bag.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:01 am
1277.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I think we both know you couldn’t punch your way out of a wet paper bag.
_________
Poor thing….this must be humiliating for you….again. What will your next handle be?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:06 am
1276.OAKlifer Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I’m going to fill up ur inbox with useless junk about how much i hate the Lakers and how the Blazers RULE LOL!!!!!!!
__________
Blazers just fired their GM didn’t they? After only one year on the job? Kinda harsh no?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Don’t humiliate yourself.
I know everything there is to know about you.
You are fat.
You are pushing 40.
You spend nine to five on a Raiders blog.
Your wife is BIGGER than you.
You are not exactly father of the year.
Did I miss anything?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:09 am
We Pritchslaped our self’s…Lol yeah the turn over in the last couple years is concerning….And i liked the Wallace deal tought that was good this year!!
May 24th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Vegas odds has Dakota favored at 3 to 1 to knock Dr Hunter out in 2 punches.
Place your bets!!
May 24th, 2011 at 10:09 am
The truth hurts.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:10 am
1265.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I live in San Jose and we don’t eat road kill but there are a lot of Mexican restaurants, so maybe I am eating road kill and I don’t know it?
=================================================
What kind of racist comment es this 666???
Should I start to asking your address like Dakota does???
May 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
1280.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Don’t humiliate yourself.
I know everything there is to know about you.
You are fat.
You are pushing 40.
You spend nine to five on a Raiders blog.
Your wife is BIGGER than you.
You are not exactly father of the year.
Did I miss anything?
++++++++++
Oh please oh stop it you are hurting my feelings! lmfao
I would expect better game from a “Dr.”
May 24th, 2011 at 10:12 am
666, he is a fat piece of $hit who gets winded waking up the stairs.
Violence is not the answer.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am
It’s all true and you know it.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am
You have certainly showed a lot of “game” today.
About as much as the Lakers.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am
“666, he is a fat piece of $hit who gets winded waking up the stairs.”
yeah right you must be thinking of someone else but think what you want its better that way.
“Violence is not the answer.”
Spoken like a true wimp.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am
“What kind of racist comment es this 666???
Should I start to asking your address like Dakota does???”
Not a racist comment unless you are very insecure about who you are and are desperately seeking a reason to be angry.
I have no problem sharing my address tough guy so suck in your fat gut and keep acting tough over the internet its a sign of low self worth and lack of intelligence.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am
You have to admit suggesting that we make arrangements to get on a plane to settle this man to man is probably not the most intelligent thing that has come out of your tiny hick brain.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am
So how did the Nnamdi discussion end? Some were calling him a soft looser, others were calling him the best CB in football.
My take:
For the Money he makes I’d rather have 10 other players (no CBs though) before Nnamdi.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Okay 666.
what is your address?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am
whats your address tough guy?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Don’t be a wimp.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am
This is like Romper Room a bunch of pea brained lackeys talking tough on a blog. Asking for an address for what so you can appear tough or hard on a Blog?
Your half the man I am so keep acting tough your weakness is showing, not to mention your low IQ.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am
You just said you had no problem sharing your address.
You did just say that, right?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:31 am
This is fun to watch….the cowardly troll flailing his little arms about trying to make a last stand lol. Humorous, but a little sad too.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am
1279.Dakota Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 10:06 am
1276.OAKlifer Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I’m going to fill up ur inbox with useless junk about how much i hate the Lakers and how the Blazers RULE LOL!!!!!!!
__________
Blazers just fired their GM didn’t they? After only one year on the job? Kinda harsh no?
^^^^^^^^
That’s what happens when morons over think things and draft a big lug like Oden ahead of the best player in the overall draft Durant. They could have had Durant, Roy and Aldridge and have a shot at a title….but they did the stupid move and took Oden.
A’s need FIRE Geren within a week if they keep losing by the way.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:33 am
The guy who says “Violence is not the answer.” is asking for my address.
Maybe he thinks I am gay and will fondle him like his daddy did.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:34 am
1299.DKnight007 Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am
1279.Dakota Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 10:06 am
1276.OAKlifer Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I’m going to fill up ur inbox with useless junk about how much i hate the Lakers and how the Blazers RULE LOL!!!!!!!
__________
Blazers just fired their GM didn’t they? After only one year on the job? Kinda harsh no?
^^^^^^^^
That’s what happens when morons over think things and draft a big lug like Oden ahead of the best player in the overall draft Durant. They could have had Durant, Roy and Aldridge and have a shot at a title….but they did the stupid move and took Oden.
A’s need FIRE Geren within a week if they keep losing by the way.
______________
I think it was their last GM that drafted Oden.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:35 am
870.Dakota Says:
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Switch Nnamdi and Revis and we would be having the same argument except it would be Nnamdi who had been making plays in a better system and Revis who was shutting down a portion of the field with only a handful of balls thrown his way each year.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly!!
Nnamdi is the man…and once leaves, you morons in here will realize that when Routt and CJ and the other rookies are getting burnt all over the place and are still confused about their assignments.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:35 am
“This is fun to watch….the cowardly troll flailing his little arms about trying to make a last stand lol. Humorous, but a little sad too.”
I know I was having fun just sitting here reading his babble, I couldn’t resist a comment. Now I am fat and he wants some man love from me.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I think that an indication of a low IQ would be for someone to proclaim that they had no problem sharing their address over the internet only to back track moments later.
Painted yourself in a corner on that one.
I’m sure you are normally a pretty smart guy.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am
A’s need FIRE Geren within a week if they keep losing by the way.
______________
I think it was their last GM that drafted Oden.
^^^^^^^
It was and it still hurts them to this day, so they blame the one year GM.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am
As much fun as this has been I have to go.
Hey troll, when you get back after a few months I have some suggestions for your next handle:
Dr.Pathetic
Mr.Stalker
SadLittleMan
HoldsAgrudgeLikeAchick
Any of those should work for you…
May 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am
sorry degenerate but a smart person would never put their personal information on a Blog. Not to mention that I was not even talking to you.
You have clearly lost your verbal jab contest with Dakota and are desperately seeking a win, which you will not get here lackey.
Move on loser.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:46 am
So, I see Rockstar is ok. Good.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am
1290.Silverandblack666 Says:
May 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am
“What kind of racist comment es this 666???
Should I start to asking your address like Dakota does???”
Not a racist comment unless you are very insecure about who you are and are desperately seeking a reason to be angry.
I have no problem sharing my address tough guy so suck in your fat gut and keep acting tough over the internet its a sign of low self worth and lack of intelligence.
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LOL, this really is a silly answer, I was just joking about Dakota´s insistence on asking an address in a blog like this one, wich I think is not too “normal”, but what I found is a real lack of inteligence, as you call it. So I have to explain to you.
Can I joke on racist comments??? Of course, ´cause I´m a proud Mexican of what I can do, and what I did in my past life.
May 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Have any season tix holders on here fully renewed their tix?
May 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am
666, is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.
May 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am
so who had the info on aso going to wash i see Braylon Edwards in silver and black if jets take a cheap moss
May 24th, 2011 at 11:04 am
MEX_GHOST
Thanks for the light hearted response. I am here to amuse myself during the work day and don’t take anything here to serious I was trying hard to get the goat of Dr Hunter and was successful. I am in no way racist nor was I trying to make a racist comment directed to you.
May 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am
plaxico burress could be a big improvement
May 24th, 2011 at 11:06 am
“666, is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed.”
While you are clearly the most ignorant blogger here and yet you feel compelled to continue your rampage of trying to justify your anger.
Pull your head out of your backside and when you think of one singular intelligent thing to say let us all know.
May 24th, 2011 at 11:22 am
routt and dvd a healthy cj and tyvon branch i can do this mix in ware and pick up Ike Taylor in free agency this is a wish and we are OK in the secondary
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