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Camp Seymour notes

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 24th, 2011 at 11:28 am in Oakland Raiders.

Some highlights from correspondent Ben Beitzel at the Raiders’ passing camp at Competitive Edge Sports in Duluth, Ga.:

– A hand count came up with 34 players at the workout including at least three members of the rookie draft class _ center Stefen Wisniewski, cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke and tight end Richard Gordon participated in workouts of moderate intensity.

– Bruce Campbell, a right guard last year, continued to play on the right side during 7-on-7 drills.

Beitzel is filing a story to run in Wednesday’s Bay Area News Group papers and will pass along more info that I’ll relay a little later . . .

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257 Responses to “Camp Seymour notes”

  1. KoolKell Says:

    Kool, sounds like everybody is there.

  2. KoolKell Says:

    Anybody see that moron George W, almost get killed at the Rangers game? He looked drunk to me, he never saw the foul ball.

  3. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Finally!

  4. edward teach Says:

    You know the two rooks from the U are going to be there.

    Say what you want about some of the characters that have come out of that program; they produce football players there, and those guys show up to play ball.

  5. RaiderRockstar Says:

    It’s not to late for you RR.

    Move out of the sticks.

    ***

    what’s up, doc?

    I like living out in the country. I got no probs with city folks, either. I was one for about 25 years!

    I don’t miss the noise, traffic, polution or crime of living in the city. It was cool go see a movie or eat at a restaurant without the 45 minute drive each way though

  6. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Bruce Campbell, a right guard last year, continued to play on the right side during 7-on-7 drills

    ***

    I’ve heard rumors of him snatching up Gallery’s old LG spot, but that may be a challenge with no coaching interactions this offseason

    Sounds like he’ll compete for the RG job with Cooper Carlisle unless we hear something different from the Mushroom Man

  7. KoolKell Says:

    Rockstar, I thought you were over there by the Kansas, Mo border? like Joplin.

  8. Nnamdi21 Says:

    1,316. BFT Jerry!

    So its official, they’ve micro managed the game into oblivion.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-owners-approve-new-rules-changes-defensive-players-might-not-like-052411?GT1=39002

    Defensive players?! How about EVERYONE who liked football you classless morons!

    Its actually a pretty good way to ruin Vegas if you think about it and unduly influence outcomes. what a massive crock of sh*t. This is the result of Tagliabue selling off the game to corporate A holes who never played.

    All about the money, protecting players aka “assets” and warding off future lawsuits from players who will retire.

    It is (or at least was) a contact sport. Too much money has ruined the game WE helped create.

  9. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As long as McClain and Soup are there, I am happy.

    Easily the two most important players heading into next season.

  10. RaiderRockstar Says:

    pick up Ike Taylor in free agency this is a wish and we are OK in the secondary

    ***

    big oak boy:

    I don’t think Ike Taylor is a good fit for this defense. CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt is your starting unit

    McFadden, Ware, Brown & Eugene will compete with the rooks DVD & Chewy for playing time behind them or in nickel/dime packages

  11. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I thought you were over there by the Kansas, Mo border? like Joplin.

    ***

    Nah, I’m closer to Springfield & Branson

  12. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bruce Campbell, a right guard last year, continued to play on the right side during 7-on-7 drills.

    **************************

    That Tom Cable sure knew what he was doing!!!

  13. aig-raiders Says:

    RRS, glad to hear you are safe bro.

  14. oldschoolraider Says:

    Would have been nice to get a more comprehensive list of who was involved. Was Nnamdi there? Any of the other FA’s? What about Schilens?

  15. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    I thought you were over there by the Kansas, Mo border? like Joplin.

    ***

    Nah, I’m closer to Springfield & Branson
    ———————————————
    Glad you’re alright, boy. I thought about ya.

  16. HairyBush Says:

    Jerry, I guess they didn’t fork over the $$ for you to be in Ga. Oh well I will see what Ben’s observations were.

  17. RaiderRockstar Says:

    As long as McClain and Soup are there, I am happy.

    Easily the two most important players heading into next season.

    ***

    JFB,

    I would argue that young Wiz, Veldheer, MM34 & DHB are just as important

  18. HairyBush Says:

    364 days ago Raider Nation was gripping over Richard Seymour’s absence at Oakland’s mini-camp. The defensive lineman hadn’t signed his franchise tag and some wondered if he even wanted to be a Raider. What a difference a year makes.

    Talking yesterday on SiriusXM radio’s Blitz with Adam Schein and former Raider QB Rich Gannon, Seymour said he was destined to play in Oakland.

    “Sometimes I think to myself, I was born to be a Raider,” Seymour said. “As a defensive lineman, you know just the attitude and mentality of the silver and black, the fans…(there’s) no other team I’d want to play for than the Oakland Raiders.”

    But Seymour knows that sentimentality doesn’t help get to the playoffs and if the Raiders want to return to glory, the well documented poor run defense has to improve.

    “That’s something we have to stop, first and foremost, definitely a thorn in my side,” Seymour said. “We’re one of the most talented groups in the league. When you talk about talent, we have it. We just have to do the little things, and grind it out play after play.”

    So while Seymour and some of his teammates convene in Atlanta next week for non-contact drills, conditioning and team bonding, he knows the work they put in now will carry over to the Fall.

    “We gotta build during this time, to define what we’ll be all year,” Seymour added

  19. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Glad you’re alright, boy. I thought about ya

    glad to hear you are safe bro

    ***

    thanks fellas!

    less than 100 miles away, 125+ people got killed in that tornado. thankful none of my friends or family were in that area

  20. big oak boy Says:

    big oak boy:

    I don’t think Ike Taylor is a good fit for this defense. CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt is your starting unit

    McFadden, Ware, Brown & Eugene will compete with the rooks DVD & Chewy for playing time behind them or in nickel/dime packages

    i think routt will be a converted fs for huff and aso leaving

    dvd cj = cb routt and branch = fs and ss

    routt has the speed fordeep half fs

  21. aig-raiders Says:

    Wasup JFB,

    Make sure you have time for the strip clubs at nite too bro. Check out my iteniary…

    Texarkarna, TX – Hank Haney Golf Ranch
    Dallas – Will play at the official Dallas Cowboys golf ranch with my Raider hat and golf shirt. Yeah!!!
    Lubbock, TX – Rawls golf course
    Paa Ko Ridge, NM
    Sedona Golf Resort

    All in 5 days. How’s that for a road trip?

  22. HairyBush Says:

    19.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Glad you’re alright, boy. I thought about ya

    glad to hear you are safe bro

    ***

    thanks fellas!

    less than 100 miles away, 125+ people got killed in that tornado. thankful none of my friends or family were in that area

    ——————-
    scary stuff to say the least

  23. aig-raiders Says:

    No, Al Davis prizes his cornerbacks. I dont think he will convert Routt at all. Branch is going to FS this year and Mitchell will go to SS. My hunch is Van Dyke will start from day one. It will be a typical Al Davis move to start him.

  24. HairyBush Says:

    20.big oak boy Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    big oak boy:

    I don’t think Ike Taylor is a good fit for this defense. CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt is your starting unit

    McFadden, Ware, Brown & Eugene will compete with the rooks DVD & Chewy for playing time behind them or in nickel/dime packages

    i think routt will be a converted fs for huff and aso leaving

    dvd cj = cb routt and branch = fs and ss

    routt has the speed fordeep half fs

    ——————————-
    The world had a bigger chance of coming to an end this past saturday than Stan Routt being converted to safety.

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    big oak boy:

    you see Stan Routt playing FS and rookie Van Dyke taking Nnamdi’s starting job?

    wow. that would be a huge surprise!

    if DVD is good enough to start in the Raiders man2man system without OTA’s or T-Camp as a rookie then we got an absolute STEAL getting him outside of the Top 80 picks last month (most “experts” say he was a reach)

  26. 100PercentRaider Says:

    Pretty sure Campbell said that no potential free agents would be attending.

    As for who is the most important for next year, I would have to say Routt, Veld, JC, Romac and DMac are pretty key as well as DHB. Cant win with DMac hurt, and the other guys all need to step up their production

  27. aig-raiders Says:

    scary stuff to say the least (tornado)
    ——————————

    I said it yesterday and will say it again today. I find it appalling we as a country spend gazillions on our defense industry each year and have yet to find a good solution to protect our people from tornadoes. More die from tornadoes each year than from stupid terrorist attacks.

  28. big oak boy Says:

    34MM is a backup not starter quality

  29. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Branch is going to FS this year and Mitchell will go to SS. My hunch is Van Dyke will start from day one. It will be a typical Al Davis move to start him.

    ***

    Agreed with AIG. I think CJ37 should start opposite Routt, but you know Al will want to see one of his young speed burners in there

  30. aig-raiders Says:

    It’s not whether DVD is good enough to start right away according to league standards. It’s Al Davis standard we have to worry about.

  31. aig-raiders Says:

    34MM (I’m still a fan of him) is prob backup material in the league but definitely a pet project for Al since he drafted him so high. He will start this year. That’s why they let Huff.

  32. HairyBush Says:

    31.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    34MM (I’m still a fan of him) is prob backup material in the league but definitely a pet project for Al since he drafted him so high. He will start this year. That’s why they let Huff.

    —————–
    the misconseption is they really didn’t let Huff “walk”. The Raiders were trying to lock him up to a contract and ran into the same problem as they did with Kam Wimbley. Just sayin

  33. aig-raiders Says:

    Well Hairy,

    That may be true but Al has a strong history of retaining players he wants, unless they were deadset on leaving us. Huff wanted to come back.

  34. big oak boy Says:

    two guys with 4.2 40 speed on the field one deep one in coverage and the next fastest cb cj 37 why not keep the safety over to van dykes side and it will work u gotta believe in us man

  35. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the misconseption is they really didn’t let Huff “walk”. The Raiders were trying to lock him up to a contract and ran into the same problem as they did with Kam Wimbley.

    ***

    the Raiders should have let Eugene walk!

    Huff was under contract. He opted out of the final year to make more money (here or elsewhere)

  36. HairyBush Says:

    33.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Well Hairy,

    That may be true but Al has a strong history of retaining players he wants, unless they were deadset on leaving us. Huff wanted to come back.

    ————————
    I agree that most years you would be correct. I believe with all the uncertainty going on in the league right now it changes things. Al did sign Big Sey, Routt etc; as priorities. I don’t know if that means for sure that Huff is out of the plans. regardless MM34 will get some decent playing time. I wouldn’t be shocked if a labor deal did not get done until late and there would be minimal free agency. Then guys like Z. Miller will stay Raiders for at least one more year.

  37. big oak boy Says:

    branch ss routt fs dvd cb cj 37 cb rotate the rest in accordingly

  38. hwnrdr Says:

    Tornadoes, earthquakes, tidal waves….they’re all pretty scary stuff! Glad to know that you weren’t effected, Rockstar!
    Our secondary should be an interesting one indeed!

  39. HairyBush Says:

    35.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    the misconseption is they really didn’t let Huff “walk”. The Raiders were trying to lock him up to a contract and ran into the same problem as they did with Kam Wimbley.

    ***

    the Raiders should have let Eugene walk!

    Huff was under contract. He opted out of the final year to make more money (here or elsewhere)

    —————–
    He absolutley opted out, He knew he had oppurtunity to get paid. He had a pretty good season and was in negotiations with the Raiders about a new contract until the Kam Wimbley rule screwed things up. I believe he was part of the Raiders plans. Perhaps because of the lock out it may mess things up, hence drafting more DB’s.

  40. RaiderRockstar Says:

    big oak boy :

    if Mitchell & Branch both stink at FS … CJ37 wins that job by default imo

    Hiram Eugene & Stevie Brown = hot garbage

    CJ37 at FS would mean Routt & DVD (or McFadden) at corner

  41. HairyBush Says:

    BTW, we probaly would have drafted DB’s either way lol

  42. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    Tornadoes, earthquakes, tidal waves … sounds like a typical Raiders offseason :P

    thanks man!

  43. HairyBush Says:

    40.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    big oak boy :

    if Mitchell & Branch both stink at FS … CJ37 wins that job by default imo

    Hiram Eugene & Stevie Brown = hot garbage

    CJ37 at FS would mean Routt & DVD (or McFadden) at corner
    —————-
    Easy on stevie Brown
    CJ37=Garbage

  44. HairyBush Says:

    CJ37 stats will look a little better next year only because he won’t have the ball thrown to him as much with no Nnamdi on the other side. That being said he still is garbage. Raider Nation was just so fired up to See D. Hall go that they praised CJ37.

  45. big oak boy Says:

    walter mcfadden is no brian mcfadden

  46. RAIDER Says:

    Global Warming is an unproven theory. But the rapture is real! It’s right there in the good book!!! What more proof do you need?

  47. HairyBush Says:

    45.big oak boy Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    walter mcfadden is no brian mcfadden

    —————–
    More like Cynthia Mcfadden

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ37=Garbage

    ***

    HB,

    CJ37 will never be Nnamdi Asomugha, but he’s about equal to Stanford Routt and that’s good enough if our run defense & pass rush are up to par!

    Print That :)

  49. HairyBush Says:

    48.RaiderRockstar Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    CJ37=Garbage

    ***

    HB,

    CJ37 will never be Nnamdi Asomugha, but he’s about equal to Stanford Routt and that’s good enough if our run defense & pass rush are up to par!

    Print That

    ————————-
    Stan Routt= Legit starting DB in NFL
    CJ37=Arena league scraps
    print that

  50. HairyBush Says:

    CJ37 will never be Nnamdi Asomugha, but he’s about equal to Stanford Routt and that’s good enough if our run defense & pass rush are up to par!

    —————
    I don’t expect him to be Nnamdi, I just expect him to excercise some common sense.

    CJ37=2011 Terrel Buckley
    print that

  51. RAIDER Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Anybody see that moron George W, almost get killed at the Rangers game? He looked drunk to me, he never saw the foul ball.

    ……………

    Too bad Beltre didn’t line that thing.

  52. HairyBush Says:

    A. Johnson is trying to convince Nnamdi to come to the Texans. Someone call him and tell him to save his breath. He is either going to a LEGIT contender or staying put.

  53. aig-raiders Says:

    I would LOVE to see CJ37 at FS. Dude has shown that he can hit and got the speed to roam side to side with better ball skills than Huff. Wouldnt that be something if RWood turns him into a FS? I’ve been hoping for this for a long time.

  54. HairyBush Says:

    There was a change made to the “launching” rule too. A player will be considered to have launched himself if he leaves his feet prior to contact in order to spring forward into another player and using “any part” of the helmet.

    ————————-
    You know MM34 isn’t happy about this

  55. HairyBush Says:

    53.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    I would LOVE to see CJ37 at FS. Dude has shown that he can hit and got the speed to roam side to side with better ball skills than Huff. Wouldnt that be something if RWood turns him into a FS? I’ve been hoping for this for a long time.

    ————————
    I’m about as excited at seeing CJ37 at safety as I was Darnell Bing.

  56. HairyBush Says:

    Since My Celtics are long out of the playoffs, I thought I would root for OKC. Last night’s monumental breakdown just gave them a whopping 0% chance at winning the series. I guess I will just cheer for anyone but the Heat. Oh Well

  57. aig-raiders Says:

    CJ hits better than Routt. Got just as much speed and aint that far away from Routt either. He certainly had a better 2009 than Routt and Routt had a better 2010. CJ certainly has more football instincts than Routt. Routt is still a track star trying to play football. He is absolutely useless over the middle and admitted as much throughout his career.

  58. HairyBush Says:

    57.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    CJ hits better than Routt. Got just as much speed and aint that far away from Routt either. He certainly had a better 2009 than Routt and Routt had a better 2010. CJ certainly has more football instincts than Routt. Routt is still a track star trying to play football. He is absolutely useless over the middle and admitted as much throughout his career.

    ———————-
    CJ37 peaked in 2009. He will be lucky to be a nickle back for his pay. Routt is evolving, He is better at man coverage than Routt. So what If CJ37 is a better hitter? He’s a DB not a LB. Regardless of my opinion Al just paid Routt handsomely and will be a starter. CJ37 is far from guaranteed anything. Ecspecaily with all the young hungry DB’s waiting in the wings. (Not only are they cheaper but MUCH younger.) I DVR all the games and I liked what I saw out of Routt, He is only going to get better, CJ37…Not so much.

  59. HairyBush Says:

    *Routt is better than CJ37 at man coverage (not Routt)

  60. HairyBush Says:

    He is absolutely useless over the middle and admitted as much throughout his career
    ——————
    That’s why you put him in a position to succeed on the outside. He’s learning how to use that sideline to his advantage.

  61. priesttj Says:

    Here we go with the who’s better an dwho sucks in the secondary. The owner thinks Routt is legit cover corner thus the contract. Rout can play any position he wants at corner at this point. He can flat out cover. He not in the top teir but he definitrly bettee than average. Those two rookies can play better than many think in here. Chekwa was very highly touted his last two seasons even more than DVD.

    We have adeep secondary, can we afford to lose Nnamdi. I say no! but who really knows until we see it.

  62. inonewordraider Says:

    All the receivers better be there and DHB/Murphy better have a JUGS machine at home

  63. HairyBush Says:

    We have adeep secondary, can we afford to lose Nnamdi. I say no! but who really knows until we see it.

    ————–
    agreed

  64. HairyBush Says:

    62.inonewordraider Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    All the receivers better be there and DHB/Murphy better have a JUGS machine at home

    —————–
    Maybe Big Sey can cover the bill on that as well lol

  65. aig-raiders Says:

    That means Routt is a 1 trick pony who can cover on the outside vs the deep pass and nothing else. Routt admitted he was not comfortable covering in the slot and he usually gets burned on crossing routes. I doubt the opposing team will only let Routt’s WR run fly routes only. With our pass rush this year, you’re going to see a bunch of short passes against our D. They wont have the time to bomb on us but all they have to do is look at the Miami tape and a slow 40time guy like Bess will smoke us all day.

  66. aig-raiders Says:

    We have adeep secondary, can we afford to lose Nnamdi. I say no! but who really knows until we see it.
    ——————–

    Priest, you’re this blog’s version of John Herrera. If Al Davis puts Mario Henderson out at the corner, I’m sure you will be on here touting our deep secondary too.

    Routt, CJ37, Branch, MM34, Ware, McFadden, Chekwa, DVD….Damn we have a deep backfield. (sarcasm)

  67. aig-raiders Says:

    Hairy,

    You may not think tackling is a key component for our corners but I do. They can go a long way to helping out the screens and sweeps. I’ve seen Routt whiffed one too many times. He’s not as bad of a hitter as Deion but pretty bad. Dude is a track star trying to play football.

  68. HairyBush Says:

    67.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    Hairy,

    You may not think tackling is a key component for our corners but I do. They can go a long way to helping out the screens and sweeps. I’ve seen Routt whiffed one too many times. He’s not as bad of a hitter as Deion but pretty bad. Dude is a track star trying to play football.

    ——————
    Tackling is VERY important, I never said It wasn’t. I just don’t put tons of stock in a hard hitting CB (Not that there is anything wrong with that). Routt is getting better with the fundamental tackle. If he takes the guy down, cool. Leave the hard hittin to the safeties. Routt was exceling at man coverage as the season progressed. He also was doing a lot better at avoiding timely P.I. calls. CJ37 has excersised very poor judgement in the time he did play last year, To say the least his errors were costly. Let’s just sum it up this way, Routt by far has more upside that CJ37.
    BTW you called Routt a 1 trick pony, Even if that were true (whick I don’t believe it to be) I would take a 1 trick pony over a no trick pony-CJ37. Let’s face it CJ37 excels at nothing and is at a stage of his career where he probaly will not get any better. I’m sure you watched the same 2 hits that CJ37 made last year and were just blown away. Sorry, 2 great hits don’t make a great CB. Go watch the film objectively and holler back.

  69. HairyBush Says:

    *than not that

  70. aig-raiders Says:

    Actually, CJ had some really bad calls against him last year. He plays like Lionel Washington back in the old days. I saw every single game and even the announcers would usually say that was a bad call. But you believe in Routt and I dont. Is Routt or CJ #1 material in this league. Heck no. Do I think CJ is great? No. I think he has skills as a FS that would really help us.

    Routt whiffing on tackles have resulted in huge gains by the other teams. I sincerely hope he improves but the chances of him working hard after getting a big fat contract is slim for me. He finally worked hard last year because it was a contract year. You know it as well.

  71. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Rockstar, just wanted to let you know that your favorite Raider (Nick Miller) is in Atlanta…

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/5/24/2188147/oakland-raiders-2011-nfl-lockout-player-practice-notes

  72. RAIDER Says:

    AIG, priest could very well be the real world’s version of John Herrera, too.

  73. RAIDER Says:

    You guys are talking about tackling? lol. Is this a pop warner blog?

  74. RAIDER Says:

    Raider fans discussing tackling. As if people need more reasons to laugh at us. Just stop, guys.

  75. aig-raiders Says:

    LaMarr Houston was apparently not among the 34 to make it.

    Houston’s Twitter (solo_dolo_9s):

    man im missin work outs cuz my luggage still aint here im heated

    I am not sure I’d want to be the person telling Houston I didn’t know where his luggage was.

  76. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Pretty Interesting article…

    “A total of 34 players took part in the first practice of a week-long minicamp organized by Seymour and Campbell and run by Chip Smith of Competitive Edge Sports of Duluth.”

    “Smith, one of the top performance trainers of NFL talent in the nation, then crafted the schedule together and included some position specific drills.”

    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2011/05/24/raider-nation-invades-georgia-for-minicamp/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

  77. aig-raiders Says:

    I like JC as a person and his comments on the young guys were pretty funny.
    ————————————————————

    Raider Nation invades Georgia for minicamp

    4:04 pm May 24, 2011, by D. Orlando Ledbetter

    Oakland quarterback Jason Campbell (left) and Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan (right) chat after the Raiders practice today. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    Oakland quarterback Jason Campbell (left) and Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan (right) chat after the Raiders practice today. Both teams practices at the same field about 10 miles from Flowery Branch. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    Oakland defensive end Richard Seymour and quarterback Jason Campbell sent out the message and their teammates answered.

    A total of 34 players took part in the first practice of a week-long minicamp organized by Seymour and Campbell and run by Chip Smith of Competitive Edge Sports of Duluth.

    “We are thrilled that they have come and entrusted their week to us,” Smith said. “We have been talking for about a month now. We came up with a day-by-day plan. We sent that to Richard and Jason based on some things they wanted to get done as team.”

    Smith, one of the top performance trainers of NFL talent in the nation, then crafted the schedule together and included some position specific drills.
    Chip Smith, founder of Competitive Edge Sports of Duluth, is running the Raiders’ minicamp this week. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    Chip Smith, founder of Competitive Edge Sports of Duluth, is running the Raiders’ minicamp this week. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    “A lot of these OTAs and seven- on-seven drills led by players are nothing more than coming out and playing touch football,” Smith said.

    Seymour wanted the workouts to be organized and intense.

    “We just wanted to give Atlanta a little bit of a taste of the Raiders as well,” said Seymour, the six-time Pro Bowler who played at Georgia. “I know there are some big Falcons fans down here, but we brought the Raider Nation in here today.”

    Campbell, who played at Auburn, had most of the wide receivers staying with him in his suburban Washington, D.C. home.

    “I had to get them out of my house,” Campbell said. “They eat too much. Also, they are younger than me too. So, it’s ‘let’s go here. Let’s go there.’ I want to go to sleep.”

    The Falcons, who practiced on the same field about a half an hour after the Raiders, were impressed with Oakland’s turnout.
    Raider quarterback Kyle Boller during seven-on-seven drills. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    Raider quarterback Kyle Boller during seven-on-seven drills. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

    “It was impressive to see how many guys that they had down here,” Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan said. “But I think that’s a commitment that players have. Everybody is professional about what we do. Even though we are not able to go to the facility at this point, we know that we need to stay in shape.”

    Some of the Raiders on hand included running back Darren McFadden, fullback Rock Cartwright, wide receivers Louis Murphy, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford, linebacker Rolando McClain, rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke and rookie center Stefen Wisniewski.

  78. HairyBush Says:

    70.aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    Actually, CJ had some really bad calls against him last year. He plays like Lionel Washington back in the old days. I saw every single game and even the announcers would usually say that was a bad call. But you believe in Routt and I dont. Is Routt or CJ #1 material in this league. Heck no. Do I think CJ is great? No. I think he has skills as a FS that would really help us.

    Routt whiffing on tackles have resulted in huge gains by the other teams. I sincerely hope he improves but the chances of him working hard after getting a big fat contract is slim for me. He finally worked hard last year because it was a contract year. You know it as well.

    ———————
    Nice name drop (lionel Washington)
    There were plenty of questionable P.I. calls for the Raiders secondary, CJ37 just seemed to be involved the most. Yes players miraculously have better season during contract years But I believe with Routt it was also a combination of him just putting the work in and just “getting it”.
    BTW, It’s not like I will be mad if CJ37 has a good year, We just have differing opinions on who is going to be our best CB.

  79. RAIDER Says:

    Seymour and Campbell are f’n scabs. Every player in the league should sit on his arse and gain 50 lbs. as long as the owners are locking them out. The owners are going to cave, you nimrods. They’re playing a game. They won’t let this thing go into October. Don’t be stupid. With the money they’d lose? Golf would become the new fall Sunday sport in America. They’d never let that happen.

  80. Bauce Rules Says:

    Just all awesome news! Just love it. Matt Ryan a pro bowl QB can see we got a core of guys who really want it

    Seymour is being a leader. I dont dig him at NT but oh well now. Shoot, stuff like this really matters to those younger guys. Sets a tone and we wanna be ready when lockout is officially over.

  81. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    You guys are talking about tackling? lol. Is this a pop warner blog?
    *****************************

    Sadly pop warner is a tougher brand thanthe NFL now lol

  82. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Seymour and Campbell are f’n scabs. Every player in the league should sit on his arse and gain 50 lbs. as long as the owners are locking them out. The owners are going to cave, you nimrods. They’re playing a game. They won’t let this thing go into October. Don’t be stupid. With the money they’d lose? Golf would become the new fall Sunday sport in America. They’d never let that happen.
    ************************************

    Ok so gain 50 lbs and then when lockout is over come back fat and unprepared to win AFC west?

    MR is that a good plan for the 2011 season?

    Ok owners may cave….hell players may cave I wont really predict outcome on that.

    How are these guys scabs for working out with the guys that they will be working with when lockout is over?

  83. Bauce Rules Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    LaMarr Houston was apparently not among the 34 to make it.

    Houston’s Twitter (solo_dolo_9s):

    man im missin work outs cuz my luggage still aint here im heated

    I am not sure I’d want to be the person telling Houston I didn’t know where his luggage was.
    **************************************

    Lord have mercy no. 6′3 305 lbs and can run like a deer. No thanks on that animal

  84. Bauce Rules Says:

    .aig-raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    Actually, CJ had some really bad calls against him last year. He plays like Lionel Washington back in the old days. I saw every single game and even the announcers would usually say that was a bad call. But you believe in Routt and I dont. Is Routt or CJ #1 material in this league. Heck no. Do I think CJ is great? No. I think he has skills as a FS that would really help us.

    Routt whiffing on tackles have resulted in huge gains by the other teams. I sincerely hope he improves but the chances of him working hard after getting a big fat contract is slim for me. He finally worked hard last year because it was a contract year. You know it as well.
    **************************

    Interesting about CJ’s as a possible FS. That is something I never pondered. He does get good breaks on the ball and has excellent recovery speed. But can he tackle well enough back is my only thing

  85. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce

    Did you see your boy George W Bush at the game yesterday?
    He was drunk.

    http://www.khou.com/video/featured-videos/President-Bush-almost-popped-with-fly-ball-at-Rangers-game-122511679.html

  86. aig-raiders Says:

    Bauce,

    Not sure how he will do against RB’s on a consistent basis but he absolutely blows up WR screens. I even saw Deion on nfl network commenting how CJ needs to back off and take better care of his body. I would to have CJ be switched over to FS and let the young kids dude it out for the #2 corner. Heck, we put a lot of our draft into mcFadden and DVD. One of them should start.

  87. Bauce Rules Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    CJ hits better than Routt. Got just as much speed and aint that far away from Routt either. He certainly had a better 2009 than Routt and Routt had a better 2010. CJ certainly has more football instincts than Routt. Routt is still a track star trying to play football. He is absolutely useless over the middle and admitted as much throughout his career.
    ******************************

    And also CJ played well in 2008 while Routt stunk…but Routt had a damn good 2007 before they brought in DeAngelo Falls

  88. RAIDER Says:

    The whole league needs to come back fat and unprepared, Brien. That’s the consequence for locking them out in the first place. They need to work in unison, as one union. As long as the players are competitive with each other during this lockout, the owners won. Just stupid. More modern day political cowardice from athletes.

  89. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    Bauce

    Did you see your boy George W Bush at the game yesterday?
    He was drunk.

    http://www.khou.com/video/featured-videos/President-Bush-almost-popped-with-fly-ball-at-Rangers-game-122511679.html
    ********************************

    My boy? I dont know about all that because I never voted for him but I dont throw him thru the mud like most everyone else because he lacks brain capacity and was told what to do. Now his reaction to almost getting it by the ball……..ok maybe drunk…I wouldnty doubt coked up….or he prolly is just that slow. Oh well would still rather catch a beer with him than Ob@ma….just being honest

  90. KoolKell Says:

    Associated Press

    Chrysler repays $7.6B in government loans
    By TOM KRISHER , 05.24.11, 04:56 PM EDT

    STERLING HEIGHTS, Mich. — With a few computer keystrokes in an office at its headquarters, Chrysler Group LLC sent $7.6 billion to the U.S. and Canadian governments on Tuesday, paying off most of the bailout money that saved the company from financial disaster just two years ago.

    The repayment at 10:13 a.m. was expected for weeks and is another sign of the automaker’s comeback. Chrysler went from a company that almost ran out of cash and endured bankruptcy in 2009 to one that is revamping its lineup and last quarter posted its first net profit in five years.

  91. Bauce Rules Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    Bauce,

    Not sure how he will do against RB’s on a consistent basis but he absolutely blows up WR screens. I even saw Deion on nfl network commenting how CJ needs to back off and take better care of his body. I would to have CJ be switched over to FS and let the young kids dude it out for the #2 corner. Heck, we put a lot of our draft into mcFadden and DVD. One of them should start.
    ***********************************

    Well he has to do different things playing center field than on the island. One thing tho…people always have said a FS is basically another CB and we have seen coach Woodson do it. I’m not opposed to trying it out if coaches dont believe a Branch and Mitchell tandem will work.

    Yes I agree with letting DVD McF Ware and Chekwa compete for the RCB,Nickel and Dime slots. I’m not tripping about their youth becuase I need a hellacious front 7 so they can use that great speed to grab errant passes

  92. KoolKell Says:

    Oh well would still rather catch a beer with him than Ob@ma….just being honest
    ———————————————-
    I figured that dumbass hillbilly.

  93. RAIDER Says:

    Of course you’d rather have a beer with Bush than O-bama, Brien. You’re down with the Aryan Nation, too.

  94. RAIDER Says:

    Anyone who says he’s down with the Aryan Nation would probably rather have a beer with Bush than O-bama. That’s no surprise, Brien.

  95. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Bauce,

    Not sure how he will do against RB’s on a consistent basis but he absolutely blows up WR screens. I even saw Deion on nfl network commenting how CJ needs to back off and take better care of his body. I would to have CJ be switched over to FS and let the young kids dude it out for the #2 corner. Heck, we put a lot of our draft into mcFadden and DVD. One of them should start.

    ____________________________________________________

    @AIG
    Sounds like a plan, type it up and send it to Al. Actually could you get into a overhead/PPT presentation; somthing that could be thrown on a overhead? If anybody could help CJ become a FS it is Rod Woodson. Turn CJ into a ball hawk!

    Kinda scary that DVD only throw up 225 three times.

  96. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    The whole league needs to come back fat and unprepared, Brien. That’s the consequence for locking them out in the first place. They need to work in unison, as one union. As long as the players are competitive with each other during this lockout, the owners won. Just stupid. More modern day political cowardice from athletes.
    ****************************

    Well MR, some guys have pride in their craft. They take the game seriously no matter what. The lockout at some point will end and these guys who wanna win a title will go over and beyond to do it regardless of what is happening at the top.

    Calling them cowards for working out is totally unfair. I would think guys keeping themselves in shape and keeping that unity with their teammates is a sign of unison. That has nada to do with the owners. We have players allowing players to stay at their houses and they are paying the tabs for their presence man. Cant you see they are more together than ever?

  97. RAIDER Says:

    I forgot how crazy it got in here the other day. Brien saying he’s down with the Aryans, and Bo Schembechler Jackson saying he’s hard up for little Penny on Good times, played by a then 12 year old Janet Jackson. Now that’s not the Nasty Boy she has in mind. That’s the nasty boy who winds up on megan’s list.

  98. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation.

  99. aig-raiders Says:

    @Bauce,
    My fear is not the deep ball. My fear is they will go to a short passing game to counter our pass rush. To me, the scariest thing is to ask the young kids to defend the short passes.

    @Dutch,
    Dont be surprised at all if this happens with CJ37 to FS. It works out well and AD takes the credit for it.

  100. RAIDER Says:

    Having pride in your craft is no reason to turn your back on your union brothers and sisters.

  101. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    I am really not making a comparison of one young black talented athlete to the next. I am simply comparing one young talented QB to the next. When I read what Josh is doing down in Tampa I can’t help thinking that I am reading the flip side of what Russell could have done with the Raiders in Oakland as a young QB.

    It is like a Wonderful World if you would change just one thing in your life and you could see how it would turn out, You know?

    What a wasted opportunity.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/21329/bucs-firmly-in-josh-freemans-hands

  102. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    Oh well would still rather catch a beer with him than Ob@ma….just being honest
    ———————————————-
    I figured that dumbass hillbilly.

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    Of course you’d rather have a beer with Bush than O-bama, Brien. You’re down with the Aryan Nation, too.
    ***********************************

    Why would it be such a problem to chop it up with Bush? Dude is a funny mfker and is also stupid and crazy. It would be a riot at the bar. @bama is no dummy. He is a lawyer. He will put on that front like he is so high and mighty. No thanks man

    MR…..really? Give it a rest

  103. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, like I said, nobody here’s surprised that you’d rather have a beer with Bush than O-Bama. Especially after you said this the other day:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

  104. Davy Jones Says:

    Scabs? I that Seymour and Campbell are displaying leadership, and if that’s scabby then give the Raiders more scabs, please.

  105. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    ———————————————-
    I always thought you were Aryan Nation, not Raider Nation.
    ***********************

    Come on Kelly…..you still on this? I simply asked Mista why people thought he was Aryan Nation. He replied because he is against @bama’s health plan. If that is the reason for their claims then I’m aryan nation as well. Do you not understand sarcasm? You are educated and have seen the world yet you can catch a sarcastic statement?

  106. KoolKell Says:

    He is a lawyer. He will put on that front like he is so high and mighty. No thanks man

    MR…..really? Give it a rest
    ——————————————-
    Aaah yes, the Bush Family, just crazy beer lovers.

    Bauce Maybe you and BrownStains can go back for your GED?

  107. RAIDER Says:

    I don’t think Bush is funny at all, Brien. I think he tries to be funny. And I think dim witted Aryans, like you, think he’s funny. But I don’t. I’m too intelligent for his frat boy humor.

  108. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    Brien, like I said, nobody here’s surprised that you’d rather have a beer with Bush than O-Bama. Especially after you said this the other day:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
    **************************************

    LOL coming from the guy who think scabs are players that workout and stay in shape during a work stoppage

  109. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, we all know why you said it. But your choice of words will haunt you forever.

  110. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    He is a lawyer. He will put on that front like he is so high and mighty. No thanks man

    MR…..really? Give it a rest
    ——————————————-
    Aaah yes, the Bush Family, just crazy beer lovers.

    Bauce Maybe you and BrownStains can go back for your GED?
    ***********************

    We were talking little Bush not his family. Come on Kelly

  111. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Bauce nice idea down the road a season or two. The rookies are not ready for that island yet. History has shown that it takes rookies time to develop in our system. Outside of Charles Woodson, which they are not both of them would get killed on the corners.

    CJ is going to have to learn how to ankle tackle those RBs on screens and use his hands to fight through the defense to the ball carrier.

    I see McFadden playing that free safety spot starting out then switching over to corner. We usually work the rookies in to that third DB spot.

    ——————————————————
    95.DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    Bauce,

    Not sure how he will do against RB’s on a consistent basis but he absolutely blows up WR screens. I even saw Deion on nfl network commenting how CJ needs to back off and take better care of his body. I would to have CJ be switched over to FS and let the young kids dude it out for the #2 corner. Heck, we put a lot of our draft into mcFadden and DVD. One of them should start.

    ____________________________________________________

    @AIG
    Sounds like a plan, type it up and send it to Al. Actually could you get into a overhead/PPT presentation; somthing that could be thrown on a overhead? If anybody could help CJ become a FS it is Rod Woodson. Turn CJ into a ball hawk!

    Kinda scary that DVD only throw up 225 three times.

  112. KoolKell Says:

    Remember when that guy threw the shoes at Bush in Iraq? Too funny.

    He looked just as stupid last night at the game.

  113. RAIDER Says:

    If they’re working out to compete with other players, as you said, then yes, they’re scabs. How can a union win when its members are in a competitive mindset, with each other? You said yourself Seymour and Campbell need to get in shape for the AFC West. The AFC West isn’t their enemy right now. The owners are. This is bigger than football. And they know that. They too were once rookies. They too will need health care when they retire.

  114. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    Brien, we all know why you said it. But your choice of words will haunt you forever.
    *****************************

    Exactly how will they haunt me? Only two people in here complaining are the two who have the biggest problems with me. All the other bloggers havent even tripped on on that. Only you two. Do you see what I’m getting at?

  115. Bauce Rules Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    Bauce nice idea down the road a season or two. The rookies are not ready for that island yet. History has shown that it takes rookies time to develop in our system. Outside of Charles Woodson, which they are not both of them would get killed on the corners.

    CJ is going to have to learn how to ankle tackle those RBs on screens and use his hands to fight through the defense to the ball carrier.

    I see McFadden playing that free safety spot starting out then switching over to corner. We usually work the rookies in to that third DB spot.
    *************************************

    IMO i believe CJ wont be back and we just gonna let Routt be the vet in the secondary. You can have a good defense as long as your front 7 can handle biz.

  116. KoolKell Says:

    IMO i believe CJ wont be back and we just gonna let Routt be the vet in the secondary. You can have a good defense as long as your front 7 can handle biz.
    —————————————–
    Build a secondary around Stanford Routt? Stupid!

  117. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    If they’re working out to compete with other players, as you said, then yes, they’re scabs. How can a union win when its members are in a competitive mindset, with each other? You said yourself Seymour and Campbell need to get in shape for the AFC West. The AFC West isn’t their enemy right now. The owners are. This is bigger than football. And they know that. They too were once rookies. They too will need health care when they retire.
    ***********************************

    I never said they dont deserve healthcare did I? Stop jumping to conclusions MR.

    What is the point in coming out of shape when the lockout has ended MR? I dont get your point still. Guys are gonna lose their positions if they do that. The lockout will end. It will end and it will end before September. It is almost June MR. The lawyers and stuff are the ones in control of that court stuff not the players. Sitting on your ass will not do anything to help the problem

  118. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, how will they haunt you? Whenever you hate on the president, we’ll remind everyone why you’re doing it.

  119. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    IMO i believe CJ wont be back and we just gonna let Routt be the vet in the secondary. You can have a good defense as long as your front 7 can handle biz.
    —————————————–
    Build a secondary around Stanford Routt? Stupid!
    *******************************

    I’m not a huge fan of it Kelly………but what else are they gonna do after giving him that money now Nnamdi and huff are gone? CJ isnt great also and gets beat as well. CBs can come in a cover and make plays in NFL. We have seen young guys do it many times right?

  120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ37=Arena league scraps

    CJ37=2011 Terrel Buckley

    ***

    HB,

    that’s a bit harsh … don’t you think?

    Arena League, CFL, UFL whatever = guys like Jason Horton, Michael Waddell & John Bowie

    CJ37 has 8 INT’s over the past three seasons

    #21 has 3 INT’s over the past four seasons!

  121. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
    Brien, how will they haunt you? Whenever you hate on the president, we’ll remind everyone why you’re doing it.
    *******************************

    Everyone except you and Kelly now why I’m on him so tough

  122. KoolKell Says:

    Everyone except you and Kelly now why I’m on him so tough
    ——————————————
    Too funny.

  123. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, try to absorb this with your small Aryan brain

    The players are working out, as you noted, to prepare for their division rivals. The owners can see this. They’re effectively trying to divide the players right now. That’s one of their many strategies. So as long as the players are working out, to compete with players on opposing teams, or even some on their own team where depth chart spots are concerned, the owners can see an avenue for manipulation. They shouldn’t be working out at all. They should all be camped out at the gates, in unison, doing absolutely nothing football related until the gates are unlocked again by these unreasonable owners. If all players on all teams are not working out, then there’s no pressure on players to work out. The players should be doing everything they can to work in unison, and avoiding everything they can that’s divisive. It’s just that Campbell and Seymore are a couple of dumb meat heads who can’t wrap their brains around that. I frankly blame D Smith for losing control. I had a lot of faith in him at first. He’s a smart guy. But he’s got to get control of his rank and file.

  124. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    Remember when that guy threw the shoes at Bush in Iraq? Too funny.

    He looked just as stupid last night at the game.
    **************************

    Exactly so how do you automatically assume Bush was drunk at the Rangers game if he had the same look when dude threw a shoe at him? He wasnt drunk when Iraqi dude tossed the shoe at him…..come on Kelly you are hopefully smarter than this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPX6ToMyAe0&feature=related

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Priest, you’re this blog’s version of John Herrera. If Al Davis puts Mario Henderson out at the corner, I’m sure you will be on here touting our deep secondary too.

    ***

    LOL! nice one AIG

  126. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @RMR
    Is Drew Brees a scab as well? Is he secretly working against the players, a “Mole” for the owners?

    “Brees is one of 10 players named in the antitrust litigation against the NFL.”

    “Because NFL teams are locked out, players have been unable to attend usual offseason training sessions at club headquarters with their coaches. So Brees and a few dozen teammates have banded together to hold similar workouts at Tulane.”

  127. OAKlifer Says:

    Routt better cover like reynolds or we in trouble……..

  128. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Question, not a statement

    Has Chris Johnson faced tougher competition than Aso has on a game to game basis?

  129. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, I’m pretty sure your fellow Aryans in here will have your back. That doesn’t surprise me.

  130. priesttj Says:

    HairyBush
    AIG doesn’t know football he only knows he hates Camp and anyone who likes him.

  131. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    Brien, try to absorb this with your small Aryan brain

    The players are working out, as you noted, to prepare for their division rivals. The owners can see this. They’re effectively trying to divide the players right now. That’s one of their many strategies. So as long as the players are working out, to compete with players on opposing teams, or even some on their own team where depth chart spots are concerned, the owners can see an avenue for manipulation. They shouldn’t be working out at all. They should all be camped out at the gates, in unison, doing absolutely nothing football related until the gates are unlocked again by these unreasonable owners. If all players on all teams are not working out, then there’s no pressure on players to work out. The players should be doing everything they can to work in unison, and avoiding everything they can that’s divisive. It’s just that Campbell and Seymore are a couple of dumb meat heads who can’t wrap their brains around that. I frankly blame D Smith for losing control. I had a lot of faith in him at first. He’s a smart guy. But he’s got to get control of his rank and file.
    *************************************

    MR to win AFC West we gonna have to beat more than our divisional rivals…last year was great proof of it.

    Doing nothing related to football would be the stupidest thing to do. Have we not had lockouts and strikes before? This thing will pass over eventually and you wanna be best prepared when that time comes

    DeMaurice Smith needs to step down….him and Goodell both

  132. RAIDER Says:

    Dutch Raider, could you clarify your question? Why would I call Brees a scab for being one of the players in the anti-trust suit? Isn’t the suit itself a strategy by the union?

  133. Bauce Rules Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    @RMR
    Is Drew Brees a scab as well? Is he secretly working against the players, a “Mole” for the owners?

    “Brees is one of 10 players named in the antitrust litigation against the NFL.”

    “Because NFL teams are locked out, players have been unable to attend usual offseason training sessions at club headquarters with their coaches. So Brees and a few dozen teammates have banded together to hold similar workouts at Tulane.”
    ******************************

    Brees isnt a scab or any target of criticism from MR…he isnt playing on the Raiders

  134. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rockstar, just wanted to let you know that your favorite Raider (Nick Miller) is in Atlanta…

    ***

    thanks Dakota :)

    LOL. no more smurfs!

    Jacoby Ford is the only one welcome on the 53. forget about brittle Chaz and lil Nicky

    sign Owens, Housh or Burress please

    DHB-Murphy-Ford-Moore-*Vet*

    Ausberry might crack the 6th WR spot or 3rd TE

  135. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    Brien, I’m pretty sure your fellow Aryans in here will have your back. That doesn’t surprise me.
    ******************************

    Sorry but folks of all skin tones on this blog are cool with me. You gonna have to try harder than that buddy lol

  136. KoolKell Says:

    Bree

    Let’s hear some your yo so zizzle talk, ok?

  137. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, you’re right about the AFC West. And, lucky for the owners, many of the players are as dumb as you, and can only think about football results when they are in a monumental labor struggle right now. I don’t know why they even bothered. Why did they? Why don’t players just start showing up to their respective teams headquarters and signing contracts right now, agreeing to the owners’ terms? They’re not union members right now. They’re decertified. I don’t know why they’re wasting their time with this.

  138. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Has Chris Johnson faced tougher competition than Aso has on a game to game basis?

    ***

    @Dutch

    Routt & CJ37 both have!

  139. La Milicia Negra Says:

    its a dissapointment none of the rookie WR’s showed up…

    if our pass-game suck this year we’re going to get killed…

  140. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, I’m convinced this blog tilts mostly white conservative. It’s no surprise they have your back, considering your open admiration of all things Aryan.

  141. Bauce Rules Says:

    And honestly, the owners can afford to lock players out. They got the bread for heaven’s sake. Do I agree with them? No not at all

  142. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Dutch Raider, could you clarify your question? Why would I call Brees a scab for being one of the players in the anti-trust suit? Isn’t the suit itself a strategy by the union?

    _______________________________________________________

    Well, because Brees has been organizing player workouts well before Seymour and Campbell have. Brees has organized activites where fans can watch the Saints work out and win prizes in a raffle.

    “Drew Brees has had more than 40 Saints gathered for three weeks.”

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-05-21/sports/ct-spt-0522-biggs-bowen-qanda-bears-c20110520_1_workouts-nfl-lockout-otas

  143. RAIDER Says:

    Good for the WRs not showing up. Nobody should. Let those two brick heads, Seymour and Campbell, work out together. Preferably in a bath house. This is a labor struggle. A human rights struggle. And, Seymour and Campbell are clearly out. They just want to make sure they get an edge on their “opponents”. Little do these lizard brained morons realize, their “opponents” right now are their union brothers.

  144. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    Brien, you’re right about the AFC West. And, lucky for the owners, many of the players are as dumb as you, and can only think about football results when they are in a monumental labor struggle right now. I don’t know why they even bothered. Why did they? Why don’t players just start showing up to their respective teams headquarters and signing contracts right now, agreeing to the owners’ terms? They’re not union members right now. They’re decertified. I don’t know why they’re wasting their time with this.
    **********************

    Someone is eventually gonna cave. When that time comes and its business as usual you gotta be ready to win and play well. Working out and not getting fat will help along the way…agree?

  145. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Here’s info on the workout:

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18129897

  146. RAIDER Says:

    Campbell and Seymour should work out in an SF bath house, you know, to get in shape for their opponents. People there will think the Soul-Glo spokesperson and Rerun are getting it on.

  147. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    Good for the WRs not showing up. Nobody should. Let those two brick heads, Seymour and Campbell, work out together. Preferably in a bath house. This is a labor struggle. A human rights struggle. And, Seymour and Campbell are clearly out. They just want to make sure they get an edge on their “opponents”. Little do these lizard brained morons realize, their “opponents” right now are their union brothers.
    *********************************

    LOL and this is coming from a supposed Raider fan hahahahahaha. As bitter as Kell and others are they would go to lengths like this to claim Seymour and JC should be in a bath house…..wow MR

  148. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    Campbell and Seymour should work out in an SF bath house, you know, to get in shape for their opponents. People there will think the Soul-Glo spokesperson and Rerun are getting it on.
    ****************************

    Very sad

  149. RAIDER Says:

    I’m not a Raider fan right now I’m an NFL player’s fan. All of them. I stand with the players. When the owners take these foolish locks off the doors, then I’m a Raider fan again. You fans that aren’t supporting the players are part of the problem, too. But what can you expect. Sports fans are not known for their intelligence these days.

  150. DutchRaider77 Says:

    “People there will think the Soul-Glo spokesperson and Rerun are getting it on.”

    _____________________________________________________

    Wow, Racist comment. KK you better check your brother from another mother on this comment.

  151. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    Brien, I’m convinced this blog tilts mostly white conservative. It’s no surprise they have your back, considering your open admiration of all things Aryan.
    **************************

    Naw that is where you are wrong. I’ve met people from the blog who are black white and latino thus far

  152. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    I’m not a Raider fan right now I’m an NFL player’s fan. All of them. I stand with the players. When the owners take these foolish locks off the doors, then I’m a Raider fan again. You fans that aren’t supporting the players are part of the problem, too. But what can you expect. Sports fans are not known for their intelligence these days.
    ***************************

    LOL this says it all

  153. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    Bree

    Let’s hear some your yo so zizzle talk, ok?
    ********************

    I will do that as soon as you resume your elitist talk, ok?

  154. RAIDER Says:

    The quality of the game has suffered enough, Brien. Don’t you agree? You think the game’s better today than it was 20 years ago? Really? And don’t give me this crap about parity. What parity? New England, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, every year. Same old game. Some franchises know how to get it done. The quality of play is horrible now. And it’s because the league is too homogenized now. The owners are no longer competing with other owners. They’re competing with the players. The play has suffered enough. Don’ t you see this as a sports fan? Or is it just all, “Duh, der, Go Raiders, duh, der, dee dee der, Raiders!!! Duh!!!”

  155. Bauce Rules Says:

    MR….not one players union rep would ever suggest to the players to not be in shape. You are only saying that to start trouble….as usual

  156. RAIDER Says:

    Go Raiders. Duh, Der. Duh. Raiders rule! Dee Dee derrr. Duh. Scooby Doo!!! Go Raiders!! Der!!!

    I admire Seymour and Cambell, der. Duh. They’re preparing for the season. Duh, der, dee dee der. Good for them.

  157. RAIDER Says:

    MR….duh, der, duh, not one players union rep, duh, der, dee dee der, would ever suggest to the players to not be in shape. Duh, der, scooby doo!! You are only saying that to start trouble…duh, der..as usual

  158. DutchRaider77 Says:

    @RMR
    “Drew Brees has had more than 40 Saints gathered for three weeks.”

    Well is Brees a scab?

  159. KoolKell Says:

    I will do that as soon as you resume your elitist talk, ok?
    —————————————-
    You keep using terms like high & mighty and elitist, I’ve noticed. Very revealing.

  160. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    The quality of the game has suffered enough, Brien. Don’t you agree? You think the game’s better today than it was 20 years ago? Really? And don’t give me this crap about parity. What parity? New England, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, every year. Same old game. Some franchises know how to get it done. The quality of play is horrible now. And it’s because the league is too homogenized now. The owners are no longer competing with other owners. They’re competing with the players. The play has suffered enough. Don’ t you see this as a sports fan? Or is it just all, “Duh, der, Go Raiders, duh, der, dee dee der, Raiders!!! Duh!!!”
    *************************************

    The quality of game has slipped for many reasons and both parties have a part in it

  161. DutchRaider77 Says:

    KK,
    Do you agree with RMR that Campbell and Seynmour are selling out?

  162. RAIDER Says:

    RMR
    Duh, der, dee dee der, scooby doo where are you!!! Drew Brees has had more than 40 Saints gathered for three weeks. der duh der.

  163. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    I will do that as soon as you resume your elitist talk, ok?
    —————————————-
    You keep using terms like high & mighty and elitist, I’ve noticed. Very revealing.
    ****************************

    It reveals that I’m not a rich guy? Ok sue me

  164. KoolKell Says:

    What do you tea-baggers think about Chrysler today?

  165. RAIDER Says:

    KK,
    Do you agree with RMR that Campbell and Seynmour duh, der, scooby doo, der, are selling out?

  166. RAIDER Says:

    The quality of game has slipped for many reasons duh, der, scooby doo go Raiders!! duh, der,,, and both parties have a part in it

  167. KoolKell Says:

    You don’t have to be a rich guy, to maybe have taken a macro-economics course.

  168. Bauce Rules Says:

    LOL MR…..too funny how you get whooped at another false argument and resort to childish 4th grade humor. At least be able to beat the argument lol. You just cant provide any logical reason for the players to not stay in shape. You suggest they get fat and be lazy…..no matter what profession someone has its not wise to be fat and lazy lol

  169. severeraiderz Says:

    Glad that DVD and Gordon are there….I think Richard can be a player, Myers betta keep it together

  170. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    The quality of game has slipped for many reasons duh, der, scooby doo go Raiders!! duh, der,,, and both parties have a part in it
    **************************

    Amazing…well I guess brains isnt everything, except in MR’s case they are nothing

  171. Davy Jones Says:

    149.RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    I’m not a Raider fan right now I’m an NFL player’s fan. All of them. I stand with the players. When the owners take these foolish locks off the doors, then I’m a Raider fan again. You fans that aren’t supporting the players are part of the problem, too. But what can you expect. Sports fans are not known for their intelligence these days.

    =======================================================

    Where and when are you or were you ever a Raider fan? I suppose “rooting” for a team where you can’t stand anything the owner touches and the owner touches everything is a sign of intelligence? Troll.

  172. RAIDER Says:

    Duh, der, it’s both sides, der! Guy gets mugged in an alley. both sides are to blame, duh, der, dee dee der. He shouldn’t have been in the ally. Der. Scooby doo! I can’t wait for Raider season! Derrrrrr

  173. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    You don’t have to be a rich guy, to maybe have taken a macro-economics course.
    ****************************

    LOL thank you Kell…..you walked right into it….as usual

  174. RAIDER Says:

    Yer not Raider fan. der, duh. you not real fan. me real fan. me glad seymour and campbell work out. me can’t wait for season. me think both sides at fault in labor dispute, even if its owner that lock out player. me too stupid to realize that. me just want football. me just raider fan. derrr, duh, scooby dooo!

  175. Bauce Rules Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Glad that DVD and Gordon are there….I think Richard can be a player, Myers betta keep it together
    ******************

    Yeah well we gotta have the best players out there. Whoever makes the team better should be on the field. Having depth and competition will bring that out

  176. RAIDER Says:

    me don’t need know economic. me raider fan. me just want football. brien want football, brian want raiders!!! baehwaodpapoeirjaweor!! rubble rubble.

  177. RAIDER Says:

    are you ready some football??? I ready some football!!! Win Baby!1 Win Baby!!!!

  178. KoolKell Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    You don’t have to be a rich guy, to maybe have taken a macro-economics course.
    ****************************

    LOL thank you Kell…..you walked right into it….as usual
    ————————————————–
    Hey, you and BrownnStains can walk around in darkness in hand in f’ing hand, ok?

  179. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Yer not Raider fan. der, duh. you not real fan. me real fan. me glad seymour and campbell work out. me can’t wait for season. me think both sides at fault in labor dispute, even if its owner that lock out player. me too stupid to realize that. me just want football. me just raider fan. derrr, duh, scooby dooo
    ***************************************

    proof that ya can live without a brain

  180. Davy Jones Says:

    174.RAIDER Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Yer not Raider fan. der, duh. you not real fan. me real fan. me glad seymour and campbell work out. me can’t wait for season. me think both sides at fault in labor dispute, even if its owner that lock out player. me too stupid to realize that. me just want football. me just raider fan. derrr, duh, scooby dooo!

    ====================================================

    It’s a shame that sports fans aren’t known for their intelligence these days. But MR is here to change all that. Aren’t we lucky.

  181. KoolKell Says:

    Stanford Routt is the bulwark of the secondary, yes?

  182. ottocrat Says:

    Is that a picture of Matt Ryan at Camp Seymore?

  183. ottocrat Says:

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18129897

  184. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    Stanford Routt is the bulwark of the secondary, yes?
    ******************************

    I dont believe he is great Kelly. Have I not said this. He is a good enough starter for us granted we have a front 7. He is overpaid for sure but I wont be mad having him with the young guys.

  185. RAIDER Says:

    u not real raider fan. i real fan! i real fan! i glad campbell and seymour work out to prepare for afc west! unions for girly man!!!!!!

  186. Bauce Rules Says:

    He made some sharp throws, and Murphy made a nice catch along the sideline. The work between Jason Campbell and his receivers at his home in Washington, D.C., showed. Campbell said there have been some changes in terminology with Al Saunders taking over as offensive coordinator, but it is not much different from the offense implemented last year by Hue Jackson, who’s now the head coach
    **********************************

    Now thats awesome

  187. DutchRaider77 Says:

    u not real raider fan. i real fan! i real fan! i glad campbell and seymour work out to prepare for afc west! unions for girly man!!!!!!

    _____________________________________________________

    RMR, you should get some treatment! The syphilis you contracted from your cousin is really taking a toll.

  188. J Hill Says:

    In the Miami game, Stevie Brown played most of the game at FS and was pretty decent.

    Our main problem defensively was the ill advised constant 2 safety blitz Marshall kept calling on 3rd dn.

  189. Guy Says:

    Nnamdi’s ankle was a killer in the Phins game

  190. J Hill Says:

    I just don’t get the thinking that Branch will play FS ahead of Brown.

    I think we would have seen Branch at FS and Mitchell at SS last year if that was the plan. Huff played a lot of corner after the Nnamdi injury and we NEVER saw Branch and Mitchell as the S tandem.

  191. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    In the Miami game, Stevie Brown played most of the game at FS and was pretty decent.

    Our main problem defensively was the ill advised constant 2 safety blitz Marshall kept calling on 3rd dn.
    **********************************

    The defense had some issues but Grad was at his worse. The offense scored one 1td that day

  192. RAIDER Says:

    RMR, you should get treatment! The syphilis you contract from you cousin really taking toll. I had to go google to spell syphilis. I try to spell it siphilus a couple time. spell check put red line under it. me like to have good spelling, give impression me smart. Raider rule! I want futball!!!

  193. Davy Jones Says:

    Cool to see the photos. The one with Campbell throwing the pass, pretty sure the receiver is DHB (grey shirt, black trunks). Wonder if he caught it, LOL.

  194. J Hill Says:

    You’re right Guy.

    Which made Marshall’s decision to constantly leave the corners on an island with zero S help over the top was pretty effin stupid.

    Everyone bangs on McFadden for his bad play when in reality ALL the corners were getting beat that day. And they were only getting beat on those 3rd dn plays, lol.

  195. Guy Says:

    haha ya I think Nnamdi gave up every pass thrown his way (except for one hold on 3rd). I think that was one of Nnamdi’s worst games in a while

  196. J Hill Says:

    B,

    Grad didn’t play all that well, but I’m telling you if you rewatch it you will see how Marshall cost us the game.

    Miami shouldn’t have scored more than 10 pts that day. We had them in 3rd and 5 plus all day but just couldn’t get off the field.

  197. Bauce Rules Says:

    Man Jhill…it sure sucks to see the Chokelahoma City Thunder go out like suckas. I had them to take the west. Looks bad now. Durant is playing soft and Westbrook has lost his damn mind. Scott Brooks looks confused. Last night was pitiful. So I guess Dirk gets his shot against Miami again.

  198. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Nnamdi’s ankle was a killer in the Phins game

    ___________________________________________________

    Easy to say in hindsight, but Aso should not have been on the field when he got hurt in the Seattle game.

  199. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    B,

    Grad didn’t play all that well, but I’m telling you if you rewatch it you will see how Marshall cost us the game.

    Miami shouldn’t have scored more than 10 pts that day. We had them in 3rd and 5 plus all day but just couldn’t get off the field.
    *****************************

    Jhill lol you kill me brotha….the Raider defenses lately generally suck on 3rd and long regardless of DC.

  200. Bauce Rules Says:

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Nnamdi’s ankle was a killer in the Phins game

    ___________________________________________________

    Easy to say in hindsight, but Aso should not have been on the field when he got hurt in the Seattle game.
    *******************************

    Oh spare me. Nnamdi would have gave up those passes that day verse Miami. Dline got beat all day right in front of my face.

  201. Bauce Rules Says:

    WE know Nnamdi was hurt but any QB who has that amount of time will beat any CB. Nnamdi cant guard people for 5 seconds lol….no one can

  202. J Hill Says:

    OKC lost last night????

    LOL!

    I turned it off late in the 4th when they were up 10.

  203. J Hill Says:

    With Wisniewski as center and Bruce Campbell working in at right tackle,

    ——————————————————

    Bruce Campbell at RT?

    Who plays RG?

  204. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    OKC lost last night????

    LOL!

    I turned it off late in the 4th when they were up 10.
    ***************************************

    It was disgusting to watch as a big basketball fan.

  205. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    With Wisniewski as center and Bruce Campbell working in at right tackle,

    ——————————————————

    Bruce Campbell at RT?

    Who plays RG?
    *************************************

    A Vet free agent….get Duece Lutui. yep the big LA hater Bauce wants the USC dude. He is perfect for power scheme at 6′4 338

  206. J Hill Says:

    the Raider defenses lately generally suck on 3rd and long regardless of DC.

    ——————————————————-

    That may be true, but to continually get beat the same way was pretty sad. I mean, why not bring a LB or 2 instead of both the Ss? an occasional corner blitz, or maybe just a base 4 man rush?

    Gardowski was pretty sad that day too, but Marshall was worse, imo.

  207. J Hill Says:

    Well if we sign Luti, then where does Barksdale play?

    I see the starting LT for LSU being able to transition to our Oline with no problem.

  208. DutchRaider77 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Well if we sign Luti, then where does Barksdale play?

    I see the starting LT for LSU being able to transition to our Oline with no problem.

    _______________________________________________________

    Guard or tackle? Dave Diehl started at guard his rookie year (LT Giants).

  209. DutchRaider77 Says:

    You guys really think they will cut Cooper Car?

  210. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    the Raider defenses lately generally suck on 3rd and long regardless of DC.

    ——————————————————-

    That may be true, but to continually get beat the same way was pretty sad. I mean, why not bring a LB or 2 instead of both the Ss? an occasional corner blitz, or maybe just a base 4 man rush?

    Gardowski was pretty sad that day too, but Marshall was worse, imo.
    ****************************

    Let me give ya some game OG…….Marshall is a stinking 49er loser and we dont need those bastards infecting us from the gate. Al is my dawg but I hate when he gets those losers over here

    Grad was the worse. Miam runs a 3-4 defense and didnt blitz really lol. They dared an NFL Qb of backup material to do it all day long. They played for the run and wasnt scared of his arm. I’m fully convinced JC wins that game.

  211. J Hill Says:

    Barksdale should be able to transition into the LG spot, I guess.

    2nd year player Veldheer at LT, Wiz at C, and essentially a rookie RT in Campbell.

    Going to be interesting to see how the OG spots shake out. Pretty sure Loper is starting if you consider how much we paid him and how quickly we signed him.

  212. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Well if we sign Luti, then where does Barksdale play?

    I see the starting LT for LSU being able to transition to our Oline with no problem.
    *******************************

    Barksdale, Veldheer and Bruce compete for two spots. Loser of competition is backup.

    Singing Lututi will show we are a serious team about dominating up front. Young dude with deep postseason playoff experience. That can help tremendously Wiz and RT winner

  213. Bauce Rules Says:

    Loper is insurance Jhill. That is all. They do not plan to head to regular season with him. No way are they set on that guy. You think Al wouldnt get Logan Mankins if he could?

  214. Bauce Rules Says:

    Veldheer Mankins Wiz Lutui Barksdale

    That is a great upgrade and would protect JC and open up holes for our talented RBs

  215. J Hill Says:

    Loper certainly isn’t being paid like insurance.

  216. severeraiderz Says:

    im going on record to say that i think Walter McFadden will be a very good corner in this league…..

  217. J Hill Says:

    I can’t see Al paying Mankins that kinda $. To an OG??? Just can’t see it.

  218. KoolKell Says:

    You think Al wouldnt get Logan Mankins if he could?
    ————————————–
    Sure, people in hell want ice-water.

  219. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Loper certainly isn’t being paid like insurance.
    *******************************

    2 Million isnt crazy high. Loper can play G and T. He is needed depth.

  220. Bauce Rules Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    I can’t see Al paying Mankins that kinda $. To an OG??? Just can’t see it.
    ********************************

    Did he draft a kicker in the first round?

  221. Bauce Rules Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    im going on record to say that i think Walter McFadden will be a very good corner in this league…..
    *************************************

    I dont know what he will do but I expect a better showing than the Fins game. I think he is better than that

  222. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    You think Al wouldnt get Logan Mankins if he could?
    ————————————–
    Sure, people in hell want ice-water.
    **************************

    Alright

  223. Bauce Rules Says:

    anyways….check yall later……game 4 on tonight….do bulls have anything left? WE shall see

  224. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    J Hill Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Loper certainly isn’t being paid like insurance.

    Neither is Hiram Eugene.

  225. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Mankins wants $7M a year…

  226. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Raiders will bring in a undrafted or FA LG to challenge Loper, Barksdale and Campbell.

  227. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Correction:Raiders will bring in a undrafted or FA LG to challenge Loper. Barksdale and Campbell will also be challenged by FA and rookie FA’s.

  228. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Raiders will bring in a undrafted or FA LG to challenge Loper, Barksdale and Campbell.

    _____________________________________________________

    Alex Parsons Project? Already on the Practice squad, USC dude who Pat Kirwin put on his list of undrafted free agents who could be the next “John Randall.”

  229. KoolKell Says:

    It seems strange that, after the Raiders best year in years, #2 Rushing Team, High Scoring Team, that they would be re-building their O-line at this point.

  230. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    It seems strange that, after the Raiders best year in years, #2 Rushing Team, High Scoring Team, that they would be re-building their O-line at this point.

    Raiders know that they’ll be playing much better teams in 2011.

  231. J Hill Says:

    In the Miami game, the Oline was simply not able to get ANYTHING done. The right side of the the OL was especially horrible and played on the wrond side of the LOS for most of the day.

    I can clearly see why we will have new starters on the OL. Couple in the FA factor with Gallery and Satele, and there you have it.

  232. priesttj Says:

    It has zero to do with WHO they’re playing it’s about WHO they want to be. They want to be very physical up front and bruise defenses with that Oline. Not to mention have some degree of excellence in protecting the QB.

    This was Cable’s charge when he excepted the job, fix the Oline make it dominant. He never made them even……good at passpro. They were average at best, the owner wants them to be dominant…………..period

  233. KoolKell Says:

    So Al Davis’ move to the ZBS was a complete failure?

  234. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    They got over with a patchwork OL playing a middle-of-the road schedule in 2010. That will not work again this season because of the stronger schedule this season. Raiders knew this and drafted the OL this draft year accordingly.

  235. KoolKell Says:

    I wonder why Davis went ZBS in the first place.

  236. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    I think Cable somehow talked him into it (or maybe Cable and/or Kiffin).

  237. KoolKell Says:

    Noteasilyimpressed Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    I think Cable somehow talked him into it (or maybe Cable and/or Kiffin).
    ————————————————-
    He’s been talked into all kinds schit the last 20 years. Ask DeAngelo Hall.

  238. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    This is true!!

  239. KoolKell Says:

    West Coast Offense one year, ZBS the next.

  240. 3 Rookies Among 34 Raiders to Attend Camp Campbell « Just Blog Baby | An Oakland Raiders Blog Says:

    [...] While there are few details reported from the first day of the Seymour-Campbell Camp Collaboration, Jerry McDonald confirmed that 34 Raiders in total were present for the first fay of the voluntarily lockout [...]

  241. TerrapinRaider Says:

    why are we even talking about that p.o.s. tom cable?

    35player turnout? …thats a pretty big turnout ..i wonder if any other teams had a larger turnout ..considering the circumstances (cross country) thats pretty good.

  242. TerrapinRaider Says:

    3yrs and couldnt even get the Oline right …why continue to waste your time with that toad

  243. Midwest Fan Says:

    I’m not convinced that Eugene’s contract means that Huff is gone. Until we see his contract, could basically be a 1 year deal etc…

    That’s what I’m hoping anyway. Think Huff has finally matured in our system and it would be hard to see him go and be a perineal probowler elsewhere.

  244. TerrapinRaider Says:

    When you get a turnout like that, that is when you know you have some good leaders on your ball club.

  245. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Big Sey has done wonders for this ballclub …his leadership is just something that you dont find many places.

  246. KoolKell Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    3yrs and couldnt even get the Oline right …why continue to waste your time with that toad
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    Just wondering why the Raiders went ZBS in the first place, and now, after an 8-8 season it has to be rebuilt.

  247. TerrapinRaider Says:

    They went with ZBS under Kiffy because thats what he ran at USC. Al gave that kid a lot of rope and he promptly hung himself with it. That’s just how/why it happened.

    They started to move away from pure ZBS under Hue and imo played better football. Mixed it up. And Hue’s playcalling helped the line. Tom Cable should have never been allowed to call plays he was so bad.

  248. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Read the report about the camp. Campbell took every snap from Wiz at center. Looks like somebody is looking to start opening day.

  249. TerrapinRaider Says:

    And the pics of Sey …i’m not sure if those were specifcally chosen to show him in some sort of imagery but Big Sey is BIG!

  250. KoolKell Says:

    Exactly, the wish-washy management, has mastered nothing.

  251. tacitus42 Says:

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2010/03/to-be-lawyer-or-not-to-be.html

  252. priesttj Says:

    T’pin some people wouldn’t know a ZBS from a chorus line all they want to do is hate on the owner…………period

    When you hire a coach you have to allow him to coach his systems or whynhire him. Changing coaches isn’t some plan by the owner it’s something thta happens when you make the kind of mistakes he’s been making. He’s picked some coaches that really didn’t want to work with him as much as for him. When you take this job read the memo. The owner is the GM as well he will be your direct boss he always has been. The writing on the wll is the size of a billboard. No hidden agendas exist.

  253. EMRaiders Says:

    I think this is wonderful news. No other first rounder this year is going to be doing something like this for their team, plus bringing this much leadership, not to mention what he has already done the past couple seasons. Seymour is worth the trade and I would do it all over again if I was AL. For someone to fork out from his own pocket the money to cover something like this is just plain and simple a true classy professional and a real man. In a sense, he is putting back money into the company that paid him all that money in the first place. How many people do you know that would do something like that. An event like this wasn’t cheap I bet, and even if he had some help from others, still he gets most if not all the credit by my book.

    Thank you Seymour, for giving it your all and showing the young guys what a true leader and man is. And thank you Al for bringing him in, with all your bad choices recently, this is one that you should brag about.

    Here’s to a new Raiders team, a winning Raiders team. As always, GO RAIDERS!

    Oh, and don’t want to forget JC. Good job showing the players and fans that you are serious about this and at least trying to be the leader of the offense. That’s more than we are used to seeing from QBs around here in a while.

  254. priesttj Says:

    EMR that’s why I dubbed him “King Richard” I’ve never heard of the kind of leadeership he’s exhibited since coming here. It’s unprecedented as far as I’m concerned.

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