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More from Camp Seymour

Note: I thought this had posted hours ago . . . assuming it’s operator error (my fault).

Notes and quotes as supplied by correspondent Ben Beitzel of the Gwinnett Daily Post at the Raiders’ passing camp in the Atlanta area:

– The Raiders practiced at nearby Buford High School. Chip Smith, director of Competitive Edge Sports, said defensive tackle Richard Seymour was the force behind the camp.

“Richard is a friend of ours who we’ve known over the years,” Smith said. “He came to me and said, `I would really like to run some team-led OTAs here in Atlanta and would likeyou guys to organize that for us in conjunction with Jason Campbell.’

Smith said Seymour assumed financial responsibility and planning has been going on for over a month. Seymour presided over the defense during light, non-contact scrimmages and Campbell the offense with an assist from Kyle Boller.”

– The workouts were described as something more than half-speed lolly-gag affairs. The CES staff conducted drill work with players and there were lengthy sessions working with ropes and weights.

Smith said Seymour’s instructions were “to get more intense, to show the public we are serious about getting in shape and showing up in shape.”

– Quotes from Richard Seymour:

“We just wanted to give Atlanta a little taste of the Raiders. It’s been great. It’s a great turnout. The guys are excited. We can’t control what’s going on with the NFL lockout, but we wanted to come out and be able to run some drills and do it in an organized fashion. We wanted to make sure it was organized and first class.”

“We needed to get together. I understand the fans’ frustration with the lockout and we want to play as much as they want us to play. But when the lockout is lifted we want to make sure we’re ready to go. Any time we can come out and develop the chemistry with our teammates. I haven’t seen most of these guys since we played our last game at the beginning of January. It’s a good opportunity to get them in the south, get them some of that southeast heat and I think that’s going to benefit us once the season comes.”

“I think we made huge strides last season, but obviously not making the playoffs is a huge disappointment. But there is only one happy team at the end of the year. I know there are a lot of Falcons fans down here, but we want to make it a Raider Nation.”

– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain said the there was little in the way of in-depth scheme.

“We didn’t really work in depth on plays,” McClain said. “It’s more just for a feel of the game. Just see some plays and get the feel of football instead of the feel of facation for the last four months. Just to get back in a football-type environment.”

Even losing much of the offseason, McClain hopes to have momentum going into his second year.

“I feel like my second year can be a lot better than my first year so it kind of sucks not to be able to be around football for so long,” McClain said. “It feels good to bget out there and do something with the team but it is what it is.”

– Bruce Campbell lined up at right tackle during scrimmage situations rather than at right guard, where lined up situation. It sounded as if it was more to re-acquaint himself with playing outside than some sort of mandate about a position change.

“I am going to practice both positions, but I am giong to practice moreso at tackle because I haven’t done it in a year,” Campbell said.

– Rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke said he received an e-mail about joining his new teammates from fullback Marcel Reece.

“It was good to see the guys, to put names with faces and get the vibe from different guys,” Van Dyke said. “There was a learning curve, but it was pretty much man (coverage) like we did at Miami. But I had to get up to game speed. You have fast guys like Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Louis Murphy. All those guys can run so I was just learning how those guys run routes.”

Van Dyke and Stefan Wisniewski were among the rookies attending. Taiwan Jones also was present, according to his Twitter account.

– Jason Campbell has had Heyward-Bey, Ford and Murphy staying at his home in Virginia as they attempt to get their timing down and was glad to change the venue to Atlanta.

“They’ve been staying at my house in D.C. and I was ready for them to go,” Campbell said. “It was costing me too much money a week to feed these guys.”

Campbell was enthused by the level of conditioning he saw.

“You can see a lot of the guys have been working out, a lot of guys are in great shape already,” Campbell said. “The main thing is building camraderie, seeing each other gain, keeping the unity we were seeing at the end of the season going. The other thing is seeing some plays, running and lifting weights and running some actual plays.”

Campbell said “all the guys that were restricted or unrestricted were here. You can’t ask for anything better.”

Note: There was no roster of players provided and players wore no uniform numbers or helmets, making it difficult to make identifications for media members who weren’t familiar with the Raiders.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    125+ dead
    400+ injured

    still 1500 people missing & unaccounted for in Joplin, MO

    dang…

  • Dan Land

    Rocker,

    That secondary you laid out is one of the worst in football. How the hell can you actually look at it any other way? Routte is decent but the rest of those guys are fringe NFLers. I am always amazed at how much Raider fan ovverattes players that happen to where SnB.
    If you would hav asked ANYONE on this blog about Jason Campbell 2 years ago it would have been a 99% ”hes a bum” vote. Now that hes a Raider, ALL THE SUDDEN hes good. LOL. Funny stuff

  • big oak boy

    i cant wait to see these jerk offs resolve this make money and f_ucking share your all rich

  • Buckeyeraider

    RRS,

    Nobody seems to acknowledge the fact that Oak was second in the league with 47 sacks. That from a D that doesn’t blitz much.

    They had twiceas many sacks as the feared Baltimore Ravens who only had 20 something, with 11.5 of those from Suggs.

    The Raiders don’t have one dominant rusher, that teams can gamepan for, Theirs are spread evenly amongst Seymour, Kelly, Shonasty and Houston. With Wimbley moving to rush ends on 3rd down.

    They should only get better this year, IMO. Houston should even improve on his rookie year.

    Plus, I really like what I saw of Jarvis Moss late in the season. That was a nice pickup. He’ll make a nice rotational, situational pass rusher. He was badly miscast as an OLB in Denver’s 3-4 disaster.

    He was the ringleader of Floridas athletic d-line that terrorized heisman winner Troy Smith and my high scoring Buckeyes in the Nat’l Champ. Uggh.

    He looks good in S&B, though. Hope they resign him.

  • Silverandblack666

    My concern is the O-line last year we were 2nd in the league in rushing yards but gave up a lot of sacks.

    IMO we needed a couple of tweaks instead of a complete overhaul. with potentially 4 new starters on the line and no mini camps….this could be bad.

  • big oak boy

    Buckeyeraider

    post 104 good solid info i feel a little better about our d now

  • big oak boy

    My concern is the O-line last year we were 2nd in the league in rushing yards but gave up a lot of sacks.

    IMO we needed a couple of tweaks instead of a complete overhaul. with potentially 4 new starters on the line and no mini camps….this could be bad.

    veldheer will pass on his rookie secret as will jacoby ford but no mini camp will slow them down though

  • Buckeyeraider

    As far as the run D, I think they are a lil batter than the stats indicate. No, 29th in the league is not acceptable. They did lose the battle at the los several times last year…Houston, Miami and surprisingly Indy.

    They are getting better, IMO. Their short yardage D is actually pretty good. Especially with Big John Henderson in there. They dominated the #1 rushing Chiefs twice.

    As statman Vegas said they did knock 20 yards per game off their avg from the previous year. I’ll take his word for it.

    Their front four is very aggressive and makes a lot of plays for negative yardage and no gain.

    However, because they are so aggressive they are susceptible to some cut back runs. If a runner can find a seam, they are off to the races because the DB’s have their backs to LOS in man coverage so much.

    So they give up the occasional long run that skewers their stats. Yes, I realize that the long ones count too.

    I think they can cut down on those a lil with improved LB play next year. They had a rookie in the middle who did experience some growing pains. I re watched the Texan game (masochist) and McClain was awful.

    I still think he’s going to be an excellent player and should continue to get better. Last year he was also flanked by two new starters.

    So, there is defenitely room for improvement with the LB corps. Hopefully with a lil more cohesion and familiarity.

    Hopefully limit the Looooong run that have killed this D recently.

  • noteasilyimpressed

    I sincerely hope that CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt will not be the Raiders starting secondary this season. Chekwa should replace CJ37; Mitchel or Branch are not deep safety material. Routt-Chekwa-Branch(?)-Brown IMHO.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Bauce,

    You said earlier that Campbell always has a good TD to INT ratio.

    I am here to tell you not so much. True he always is on the plus side of things, but good QB’s usually have at least a 2-1 TD to INT ratio, often times 3-1. The elites are up in the 4 to 1, 5 to 1 ratio. Matt Cassell was even a 5 to 1 guy last year.

    Soup, has never even been 2 to 1 on his TD to INT’s in a season. Every year, he is right at 1.7 to 1, which isn’t much better than Jamarcus Russell in 2008.

    Soup HAS TO HAVE at least a 2.5 to 1 this year. No more 13 TD’s to 8 INT’s. We need 21 TD’s 8 INT’s.

    Anything less, and we will be talking draft around X-mas time again next year.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Call me crazy, but I am not convinced that Routt is that much better than CJ37.

    MM34 has to be a SS (not FS material) and Branch should have to COMPETE to win the FS job, along with Hiram and Steve Brown.

    DVD, Chekwa, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware. I only think 3 make the team, with one to PS or waived.

  • noteasilyimpressed

    Routt is a better choice to start over CH37, as well as being younger. JFB, you’re right about MM34 definitely being a SS, but Branch just doesn’t have enough awareness in the passing game to be back deep-more of a stop the run box safety.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Last year:

    Josh Freeman 4 to 1
    Tom Brady 9 to 1
    Cassel 4 to 1
    Rodgers 2.6 to 1
    Vick 3.5 to 1
    Matt Ryan 3 to 1
    Flacco 2.5 to 1
    Rothelisberger 3.4 to 1
    Schaub 2 to 1
    Peyton 2 to 1 (off year for him)
    Rivers 2.5 to 1

    Soup’s average (1.6 to 1) is right there with Mark Sanchez (1.4 to 1) , Jay Cutler (1.4 to 1), Carson Palmer (1.2 to 1), Eli Manning (1.2 to 1), Ryan Fitzpatrick (1.5 to 1), David Garrard (1.6 to 1), Alex Smith (1.4 to 1) and so on.

    We need him to make that other list this season and emerge from the pack of mediocrity.

  • Just Fire Baby

    but Branch just doesn’t have enough awareness in the passing game to be back deep-more of a stop the run box safety.

    ***********************

    Well than screw him if so.

    I think MM34 is/will be a better SS than Branch, so if he isn’t good enough at FS, it should be back to ST gunner, and backup safety.

    We don’t need to find a place for him, he needs to find a place with us.

  • Buckeyeraider

    Vegas,

    You gonna watch Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips and my boys tonight on Wednesday Night Baseball? Cincy gettin a lil national primetime love this week. ESPN must be taking a brief respite from the Yanks and the Sox. lol.

    They finally stopped the bleeding last night. Got a tough draw vs Roy Halladay tonight, though.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Big Oak Boy, it’s the owners locking the players out. It’s not a two way street. Only one side is instigating this, the owners. The players are ready to play. Owners are not ready to remove the locks. It’s on them.

  • inonewordraider

    Jason Campbell has had Heyward-Bey, Ford and Murphy staying at his home in Virginia as they attempt to get their timing down and was glad to change the venue to Atlanta.

    Might be a good thing Schilens isn’t there, maybe we won’t need a vet receiver…

  • inonewordraider

    DVD, Chekwa, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware. I only think 3 make the team, with one to PS or waived.

    DVD stays because of his raw talent but I see Routt and Mcfadden starting. Yes Mcfadden got burned last year but he was coming off an injury and I liked what I saw from him preseason. Chekwas a good prospect too, hopefully beats out Ware

  • Just Fire Baby

    Ah yes Joey Votto, my favorite Canadian-Italian baseball player.

    I hope you beat the Phillies, and peg a liner off Halladay’s ankle tonight.

    So sick of the Phillies coverage. I really want them in the playoffs again this year, just to beat their little wannabe-dream time staff.

  • Just Fire Baby

    You figure MM34, Branch, Steve Brown and Hiram are the 4 safeties.

    You probably than keep 5 DB’s. CJ37, Routt, Ware, DVD for sure, and than who knows.

    Ware has a leg up on all these guys, IMO, from his play last year. He was on the field all the time for ST’s as well.

  • inonewordraider

    Buckeyeraider Says:
    May 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    How good is Chekwa, you must have seen him play more than i did?

  • DutchRaider77

    “DVD, Chekwa, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware. I only think 3 make the team, with one to PS or waived.”

    Isn’t it really between CJ37, McFadden and Ware making the team? Cannot see Davis cutting Chekwa or DVD, more about saving face and usually you give draft picks time to develop.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Soup, DHB, Murphy and Jacoby Ford all hanging out.

    Would seem like an odd bunch if they went out and hit up DC on a Saturday night.

    Bunch of goofy, dorky guys.

    However, I love that Soup is having the guys over at his house. That, more than anything I have ever seen from Soup on gameday, gives me hope for something next year.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Cannot see Davis cutting Chekwa or DVD, more about saving face and usually you give draft picks time to develop.

    ****************************

    Al Davis waived Quinton Moses, which was one of the highest ever draft picks waived their first camp.

    He drafted that one character in the 5th round, and waived him before camp!!!

    If Chekwe plays uninspiring ball than pulls a hammy in camp, he very easily could be waived. Same with McFadden.

    I think Ware is on the team, unless he just has a horrible camp.

  • Buckeyeraider

    I’m hoping this CBA can get done in July after the 8th circuit makes their final ruling. Hopefully, cooler heads prevail and a deal gets done in time for at least a shortened offseason with brief training campand preseason.

    Unfortunately, I’m feeling less optimistic all the time. This could be a big one like ’82 that stretches well into the regular season.

    If that happens and the players start losing game checks…they will cave. Unfortunately. Right now they aren’t losing anything.

    If the moderate owners are willing to negotiate in good faith and offer some concessions a deal could get done right then and there. If not, it could get really ugly.

    If the hardline owners want to employ a scorched earth policy and completely crush the union, like Republicans are bent on doing everywhere else, this could drag on an on and get really nasty.

    In fact, Schefter has said, some of the more hard line owners want to blow up the entire financial structure of the league and start over. The entire way they do business. This is as much about owner vs owner as it is the players. They want to reduce the amount of “socialist” policies like revenue sharing…that has made the league what it is. I guess they want it more like baseball..every man for himself. Jones and Snyder can be like the yankees, while buffalo is the KC Royals.

    I hope I’m wrong about all this. Hopefully these guys are smart enough not to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. The calmer, cooler, more moderate heads prevail and a deal gets done. Sooner rather than later.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Buckeye Raider, you mean you hope the owners finally remove those ridiculous locks at the gates? That’s all this is. A lock out. The players are ready. The owners have the gates locked. Nothing we can do. We have to convince these owners that we want football. They don’t. They have other ideas.

  • DutchRaider77

    Cannot see Davis cutting Chekwa or DVD, more about saving face and usually you give draft picks time to develop.

    ****************************

    Al Davis waived Quinton Moses, which was one of the highest ever draft picks waived their first camp.

    He drafted that one character in the 5th round, and waived him before camp!!!

    If Chekwe plays uninspiring ball than pulls a hammy in camp, he very easily could be waived. Same with McFadden.

    I think Ware is on the team, unless he just has a horrible camp.

    _____________________________________________________

    I thought the Quinton Moses was supposedly cut by mistake. There is a million articles laughing at the Raiders for this.

    Do you mean Styker Sulak? (6th round pick). Raiders also got roasted for cutting this guy before camp.

    Not saying what you say is not right, never know with Davis. But a lot were made out of these picks.

  • priesttj

    Buckeye, I thought Jarvis Moss looked like a steal late last year. I’m not sure what they were doing in Denver but this guy is a natural edge rusher with excellent hands and long arms. And he’s explosive off the edge, I thought we would have to shell out $30+ mill to get a guy of this ability.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I am always amazed at how much Raider fan ovverattes players that happen to where SnB.
    If you would hav asked ANYONE on this blog about Jason Campbell 2 years ago it would have been a 99% ”hes a bum” vote. Now that hes a Raider, ALL THE SUDDEN hes good. LOL. Funny stuff

    ***

    Dan Land,

    before Jason Campbell came to town we had Russell, Gradkowski & Frye. I was not upset that we traded a 2012 4th rounder for the guy and dumped JaWalrus!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Everything is all over blown.

    Players are asking for WAY more than usual, so are the owners. That’s their “stance” in the negotiations for now.

    When it is all said and done, we will have a CBA that is not all that far removed, from the ones we have had in the past, with a few concessions here and there on both sides.

    I’m really not that worried about it. If they miss this one season, I don’t think I will miss pro football THAT MUCH. I got Giants playoff baseball, college football, and the annual Warriors failed playoff run (otherwise known as November-December) ahead to fill the void.

    And of course, when they come back, I will be on board 110%, consuming as much pro football as possible.

  • Dakota

    Hey good job players! Hope it helps.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    The players aren’t asking for anything but to play. They’re ready. This is all on the owners. They’re the ones locking the players out.

  • Dakota

    Mike f@#k@ing Brown?

    You can’t be serious!

    Jim Buss you POS dumbazz mfker! Why is Jerry Buss allowing his retarded son to destroy the Lakers?

    WTF is going on!?!?!?!?!!!!!!

    What, do the Lakers want to run the “hand the ball to the best player and let everyone else stand around and watch him ” offesnse that Mike Brown is famous for? JEEEEZUZZUZUZHFKINCRIPES!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Nobody seems to acknowledge the fact that Oak was second in the league with 47 sacks. That from a D that doesn’t blitz much.

    They had twiceas many sacks as the feared Baltimore Ravens who only had 20 something, with 11.5 of those from Suggs.

    ***

    Buckeye,

    JFB always acknowledges this. I think that it still remains a concern because Marshall & Haluchak have been replaced by Chuck B & Greg B as DC and LB Coach

    You gotta think that with DL Coach Mike Waufle and every player from the Defensive front seven returning, things will stay the same or improve, but you never know.

    I just hope Chuck B doesn’t bring back the Prevent Defense!

  • Just Fire Baby

    They’re the ones locking the players out.

    ********************************

    This is how business is ran in pro sports.

    Players strike for awhile, owners lock-out, than soon they fake a few smiles and handshakes and on to business as usual.

    Not sure why your so wound up with this stuff. I believe a day or two ago, you called it a “human rights issue”.

    LMAO!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    do the Lakers want to run the “hand the ball to the best player and let everyone else stand around and watch him ” offesnse that Mike Brown is famous for?

    ***

    LOL @ Laker fans!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Mike Brown is going to bring his Papavich-style defensive toughness to Lamar Kardashian, Steve Blake and Pau Gasol.

    (Trying not to laugh)

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Just Fire Baby, just dispelling the notion that this is some kind of two way street between the players and owners. It’s not. It’s a one way street. It’s a lockout. Players are ready for work, owners are not ready to start business again. They’re the ones with the agenda, period.

    I’m “wound up” about this stuff? lol. Sure. If you talk about something, you’re “wound up”. OK…

  • priesttj

    The Lakers are on their way to being average as sson as Kobe is gone. Yeah they’ll get a FA and be entertaining but the championships drives are coming to a screeching halt.

    MIKE BROWN???? are you serious????

    let’s see how many Laker fans champion this move.

    Dakota, Jhill etal; whassup BOYS!?!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I sincerely hope that CJ37-Mitchell-Branch-Routt will not be the Raiders starting secondary this season. Chekwa should replace CJ37; Mitchel or Branch are not deep safety material. Routt-Chekwa-Branch(?)-Brown IMHO.

    ***

    DVD & Chewy have thier work cut out for them as rookies with no OTA’s and possibly T-Camp.

    Stevie Brown is only on the 53 man roster due to his play on special teams.

    I don’t see any of these guys starting right away unless it’s a mandate from Al Davis (ie scholarship)

  • Dakota

    139.priesttj Says:
    May 25th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    The Lakers are on their way to being average as sson as Kobe is gone. Yeah they’ll get a FA and be entertaining but the championships drives are coming to a screeching halt.

    MIKE BROWN???? are you serious????

    let’s see how many Laker fans champion this move.

    Dakota, Jhill etal; whassup BOYS!?!

    +++++++++++

    Mike Brown will certainly give us a taste of how it is to be a hopeless fan of a team with no future….now I know what a Warriors’ fan must feel like every year!

    This is bad, very bad. Jerry Buss is an idiot for allowing his son to do this, just like he was an idiot for letting his son talk him into hiring Rudy T. 7 years ago or whenever.

    Well haters, the day has finally come where you can legitimately laugh at the Lakers.

    The only upside I see in hiring Brown is that Kobe might once again demand a trade and then we can be rid of his albatross of a contract. That must be the plan, because there is no other logical reason for the hiring of Mike FKIN BROWN!!!!!! Damn!

    This is on par with the Tom Cable hire.

  • priesttj

    Man I was hoping to get a look at Taiwan Jones in some of the clips but it didn’t happen. I just would like to see how big he is compared to DMC. They’re both 6’1″ Tj is suppose to be 205 which would make him almost as big as DMC was when he was a rookie.

    I think the kid can get to 210-15 in a couple of years. He’s biult better than DMC though as his weight is evenly distributed, he is biult much better in his lower body. He may get be as big as 220 which would be awesome.

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Lakers are on their way to being average as soon as Kobe is gone.

    ***

    TJ,

    KB turns 33 in a couple months and L.A. got swept by Dallas bro

    a teams that loses to Utah (twice), Golden State, L.A. Clippers, Sacramento & Cleveland during the regular season is already average imo

  • Buckeyeraider

    new post

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  • souldogdave

    This man, Richard Seymour, will save the Raider Nation. How could the pat’s let him go?!? My god, the best 1st rounder for the Raiders EVER.These boys will get rings because of Richard Seymour.Mark my words.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    “Seymour was the force behind the camp”.
    Well that figures and I like it.
    Born to be a Raider.

    Then we have McClaine criticizing that the workouts aren’t hard enough.
    Again, born to be a Raider.