More from Camp Seymour


Note: I thought this had posted hours ago . . . assuming it’s operator error (my fault).

Notes and quotes as supplied by correspondent Ben Beitzel of the Gwinnett Daily Post at the Raiders’ passing camp in the Atlanta area:

— The Raiders practiced at nearby Buford High School. Chip Smith, director of Competitive Edge Sports, said defensive tackle Richard Seymour was the force behind the camp.

“Richard is a friend of ours who we’ve known over the years,” Smith said. “He came to me and said, `I would really like to run some team-led OTAs here in Atlanta and would likeyou guys to organize that for us in conjunction with Jason Campbell.’

Smith said Seymour assumed financial responsibility and planning has been going on for over a month. Seymour presided over the defense during light, non-contact scrimmages and Campbell the offense with an assist from Kyle Boller.”

— The workouts were described as something more than half-speed lolly-gag affairs. The CES staff conducted drill work with players and there were lengthy sessions working with ropes and weights.

Smith said Seymour’s instructions were “to get more intense, to show the public we are serious about getting in shape and showing up in shape.”

— Quotes from Richard Seymour:

“We just wanted to give Atlanta a little taste of the Raiders. It’s been great. It’s a great turnout. The guys are excited. We can’t control what’s going on with the NFL lockout, but we wanted to come out and be able to run some drills and do it in an organized fashion. We wanted to make sure it was organized and first class.”

“We needed to get together. I understand the fans’ frustration with the lockout and we want to play as much as they want us to play. But when the lockout is lifted we want to make sure we’re ready to go. Any time we can come out and develop the chemistry with our teammates. I haven’t seen most of these guys since we played our last game at the beginning of January. It’s a good opportunity to get them in the south, get them some of that southeast heat and I think that’s going to benefit us once the season comes.”

“I think we made huge strides last season, but obviously not making the playoffs is a huge disappointment. But there is only one happy team at the end of the year. I know there are a lot of Falcons fans down here, but we want to make it a Raider Nation.”

— Middle linebacker Rolando McClain said the there was little in the way of in-depth scheme.

“We didn’t really work in depth on plays,” McClain said. “It’s more just for a feel of the game. Just see some plays and get the feel of football instead of the feel of facation for the last four months. Just to get back in a football-type environment.”

Even losing much of the offseason, McClain hopes to have momentum going into his second year.

“I feel like my second year can be a lot better than my first year so it kind of sucks not to be able to be around football for so long,” McClain said. “It feels good to bget out there and do something with the team but it is what it is.”

— Bruce Campbell lined up at right tackle during scrimmage situations rather than at right guard, where lined up situation. It sounded as if it was more to re-acquaint himself with playing outside than some sort of mandate about a position change.

“I am going to practice both positions, but I am giong to practice moreso at tackle because I haven’t done it in a year,” Campbell said.

— Rookie cornerback DeMarcus Van Dyke said he received an e-mail about joining his new teammates from fullback Marcel Reece.

“It was good to see the guys, to put names with faces and get the vibe from different guys,” Van Dyke said. “There was a learning curve, but it was pretty much man (coverage) like we did at Miami. But I had to get up to game speed. You have fast guys like Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Louis Murphy. All those guys can run so I was just learning how those guys run routes.”

Van Dyke and Stefan Wisniewski were among the rookies attending. Taiwan Jones also was present, according to his Twitter account.

— Jason Campbell has had Heyward-Bey, Ford and Murphy staying at his home in Virginia as they attempt to get their timing down and was glad to change the venue to Atlanta.

“They’ve been staying at my house in D.C. and I was ready for them to go,” Campbell said. “It was costing me too much money a week to feed these guys.”

Campbell was enthused by the level of conditioning he saw.

“You can see a lot of the guys have been working out, a lot of guys are in great shape already,” Campbell said. “The main thing is building camraderie, seeing each other gain, keeping the unity we were seeing at the end of the season going. The other thing is seeing some plays, running and lifting weights and running some actual plays.”

Campbell said “all the guys that were restricted or unrestricted were here. You can’t ask for anything better.”

Note: There was no roster of players provided and players wore no uniform numbers or helmets, making it difficult to make identifications for media members who weren’t familiar with the Raiders.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • EMRaiders

    I think this is wonderful news. No other first rounder this year is going to be doing something like this for their team, plus bringing this much leadership, not to mention what he has already done the past couple seasons. Seymour is worth the trade and I would do it all over again if I was AL. For someone to fork out from his own pocket the money to cover something like this is just plain and simple a true classy professional and a real man. In a sense, he is putting back money into the company that paid him all that money in the first place. How many people do you know that would do something like that. An event like this wasn’t cheap I bet, and even if he had some help from others, still he gets most if not all the credit by my book.

    Thank you Seymour, for giving it your all and showing the young guys what a true leader and man is. And thank you Al for bringing him in, with all your bad choices recently, this is one that you should brag about.

    Here’s to a new Raiders team, a winning Raiders team. As always, GO RAIDERS!

    Oh, and don’t want to forget JC. Good job showing the players and fans that you are serious about this and at least trying to be the leader of the offense. That’s more than we are used to seeing from QBs around here in a while.

  • priesttj

    As I said on the last thread I’ve never seen leadership on the scale that Seymour is displaying.

  • priesttj

    had Russell done half of what Camp is doing the fans would’ve embraced him. No matter his struggles he just refused to lead…

  • Dan Land

    Guess you havnt seen what Brees is doing leadership wise in New Orleans then eh Priest?? Or most NFL cities for that matter. Seymour isnt doing anything that every other team is doing

  • Priesttj Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    As I said on the last thread I’ve never seen leadership on the scale that Seymour is displaying.
    I guess Gene Upshaw was before your time.

  • priesttj

    I’ve seen it all….from eevry team that’s doing it. I’ve never seen a All-Pro vet show up on a rookie bus and start training camp with the rookies and FA to doing what he does in the lockeroom to spearheading events like this on his own dime. It’s his comprehensive leadership not just one outstanding event.

    King Richard has gone out and taken a stand for this organization as if he’s on some mission meant for him. I’ve just never seen it before on this scale. It’s NOT business with him it’s PERSONAL!!

  • You’re such a clown!

  • priesttj

    Several were and i saw what Gene did, many think those teams were Snakes teams but they Gene’s teams. When Gene spoke they listened same as RayLew in Balt.

    But this is different…….it’s as if Richard has strapped this org. to his back and dragging it to a championship level. I’m certain the owner has put bugs in his ear but still no one I can think of has done thingst to the level he has.

    Remember this is a guy who has “THREE CHAMPIONSHIPS” he’s not some guy starving to win he’s already won big. This is personal for him, it’s something he wants for HIMSELF and the organization. JMHO!!!

  • priesttj

    Would you say that to my face?

  • priesttj

    Or are you some cyber tough guy?

  • priesttj

    If you don’t like what I say don’t read it….

  • Bootlicker!

  • Davis favors players whose most striking attribute is raw speed and obscure players whom he has discovered. Three examples are tight end Andrew Glover, a Raiders starter the past two seasons who caught only 10 passes as a senior at Grambling; defensive back Dan Land, a converted running back with excellent speed: and defensive back James Trapp, who won the NFL’s Fastest Man competition in 1995.

  • priesttj

    You are a COWARD!!

  • According to one former assistant, Davis would use film sessions to criticize play-calling. During reviews of plays that failed, Davis would solicit an opinion from a coach who wasn’t involved in the call, and that assistant would have no choice but to criticize his coworker.

  • priesttj

    I’ll just ignore anything you write from this day forward………You and all the rest of the haters.

  • I’m convinced this is you, TJ:

    But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ’89 season.

  • EMRaiders

    When it comes to the Raiders and the past 8 or 9 years, we have not seen leadership like this in that long. This is great for the team and it really seems like we are heading in the right direction.

    Whether this is personal for Seymour or not, I don’t know. But I’m sure he would love to be known as the guy that “lead” the Raiders back to respectability if not a championship. And that is not that far off if we keep doing what we are doing.

    We still need someone like that in the offense side of the ball, and if Campbell can take that roll and play it well, then I’m all for it. If not, then let somebody else step up, or go find him via FA.

  • priesttj

    EMR yeah I couldn’t be more pleased with what I’m seeing from Richard, he is someone this org. desparately needed. And it certainly seems they got the right guy. I gaurantee Mr Davis couldn’t have imagined someone he brings in as a FA taking charge at this level. It’s amazing to watch and it bodes well for the silver and black.

  • priesttj

    Also I think Camp is doing a very fine job of his own having the rec’s stay at his home. Man I am extremely happy about that guy as the QB for this team. Not because he’s such a great player but because of his professionalism. Damn we needed that and the two of them at the same time. It’s exciting to watch.

  • OAKlifer

    CAMP SEYMOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • EMRaiders

    For what Campbell has done this offseason so far, you can say he is at least trying. Now if he can translate that effort to the field, we might have something. Though he does handle himself like a professional. At least from what we can see.

    I just hope that some of us fans are not getting worked up simply because it has been so long since we have seen this type of effort from players with the big checks.

    I admit I do say this every offseason, but I have a good feeling about this year. lol…

  • OAKlifer

    CAMP SOUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • priesttj

    EMR feeling good about the season is normal optimism same as any fan of any team. You always want that it’s rare when you wont no matter how bad a team is.

  • The Real Commitment to Excellence

    All I wanna know was Nnamdi at Camp Seymour? Didn’t think so. Not good. Al better start spending his money on fire trucks because the secondary is gonna get burnt.

  • So far, so good. But, Al Davis can always fk it up.

  • OAKlifer

    Go Raiders the lock out could be a good thing…..depending how long it lasts they normally wouldn’t have this time to gain team chemistry…not team sanctioned.

  • The Real Commitment to Excellence

    Al Davis needs to recommit himself to his ‘commitment to excellennce’ and his ‘pride and poise’ and get his mind right and get Nnamdi back. PERIOD……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • priesttj

    Nnamdi has to want to come back, if he does he will……………period

  • JB

    In the recent past, a majority of the players wouldn’t have cared or participated. Players were individuals with individual agendas. Bringing in a proven successful veteran like Seymour was a brilliant move. Getting him for a single first round pick was a steal in my opinion. I know some in here won’t give AD credit for anything except losses. That’s not right. Sure AD has, in many of our opinions, made some very questionable decisions. The Seymour deal definitely wasn’t one of them. AD’s decision to give up on JaLoser and bring in JCampbell was the right decision too. We needed JaLoser out of here. He personally hurt this team more than AD has in this last decade. JCampbell may or may not prove to be the QB we have been looking for. Personally, I think he’s going to do just fine. We still need a #2 QB and I’ll throw my vote in for Troy Smith. I wanted to go after him last year but the timing wasn’t right.

    The Raiders are going to be a Playoff team this year. AD significantly improved the coaching staff; added some new blood in the O-line, signed some key Raider FA’s, and he still may surprise us with Nnamdi.

    All in all, I’m optimistic about the upcoming year, assuming there is a year. I put my money where my mouth is at. See you all at the game: Sect 240-14-14.


  • The Real Commitment to Excellence

    Raider new defense schemes with out Nnamdi:

    Prevent Torch Cover 1 Cover All (man to man, 10 to 30 yards off the line)

    No 7 on 11 (every one does their part)

    Cover 9 (2 man rush on obvious passing downs)

    5 Alarm Blitz (rush 9 on 3rd and longs)

    Corner Trip Chop Kick 4 (break the rules with no flags)

    R2-D2 (Raiders have high pitched buzzers the can covertly stuff into the helmet ear holes of opposing players to disorientate and confuse them)

  • priesttj

    Good job JB, I’m excited man. I also like the fact that DVD actually showed up as did TJ it just sets the tone for their careers not just this season.

  • Dan Land

    Troy Smith?? What the hell has he ever done in the NFL? No way in H E LL Al Davis brings in Troy Smith….

    Jason Campbell is not a playoff team QB. He may be a good guy but that dont mean hes a good QB.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Hi Raider fans! Its been a while since I’ve posted, but I try to keep up with whats being said, except maybe when the posts get up over 1000 on a thread.

    Really pleased with the leadership of Seymour and Campbell. Pretty much in total agreement with JB in #30. I’m hopeful about this season, lets just get this stupid lockout done.

    Godspeed Raiders!!!

  • severeraiderz

    If schilens is at this camp he should be immediately cut

  • JB

    Dan Land Says:
    May 24th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Troy Smith?? What the hell has he ever done in the NFL? No way in H E LL Al Davis brings in Troy Smith….

    Jason Campbell is not a playoff team QB. He may be a good guy but that dont mean hes a good QB.

    Your opinion Dan. We just don’t happen to agree.

    Troy Smith? Heisman Winner; has been on the bench learning a craft; experience & history with HuJack and a born leader.

    Both JCampbell & Troy Smith have the same track record as Gannon when he was brought in. Who knows, lightening could strike twice or even three times, who knows. I think you’d agree that both are better choices than Boller.

    JCampbell is as qualified to be championship QB as any other. Only time will tell. This will be his first year with almost the same offensive scheme to run. Hopefully, the O-line will be just that much better this year. It should be a good year.

  • lefty12

    Troy Smith-what a joke.We have a back-up QB.What we need is a young guy to try and bring along for the future.What the hell is the fascination with a bum like Smith.Simpletary tried to GIVE him the job in SF last year and he couldn’t even keep it over A.Smith.Raise your standards.Troy Smith isn’t any good.

  • JB

    Troy Smith’s time in SF means nothing. The Niner’s were a disaster and not due to the players. Smith has nothing to deserve the title of bum. You may not like him for a number of perceived reasons but we really haven’t seen what he can do. With the exception of Stabler, I can’t think of another developed QB we’ve been successful with. All of our better choices have come as a result of taking someone else castoffs and given them a team to play with. Plunkett, Gannon, etc. all fit than mold. I think Soup will do well and I would expect Smith to thrive here also given the coaching & opportunity.

  • JB

    Looks like everyone went home. I guess I had the last word. G’night all.

  • armond

    how can u not like what is going on here? now we just have to wait for lamar houston to get his luggage so he can be there. we also need to remember that shaughnessy and trevor are still rehabbing their injuries or they would be there 2. get this damn lockout over with so we can get to football!

  • priesttj

    JB Troy Smith is just a bit too short for my taste. I’ve read many who wnat him state his college career but I’ve watched him and been very hopeful for him but I haven’t seen anything to make me say yeah I like this guy. He’s sort of like Gradkowski to me with a strong arm. If we got him OK, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to get him.

    I would like to add a guy on the downside of his career who’s DONE it to backup Camp. And then get a young very talented kid with great upside to groom.

    Quite frankly I like to keep Grads as a backup and then draft and young very talented kid to groom.

  • priesttj

    Armond do you know who’s there and who isn’t I haven’t seen a list or roster?

  • lefty12

    Sorry,JB I don’t agree at all.He has been given more opportunities than most young QBs get and hasn’t proven to be any good.His time in SF sure the hell does mean something.He was given the reins and he couldn’t hold on to them.He is not an NFL caliber QB.BTW,plenty of Heisman QBs haven’t succeeded in the NFL,he isn’t the first and won’t be the last.

  • priesttj

    A lot of people swear by that kid Lefty12 but he just doesn’t WOW me at all.

  • lefty12

    Yea,because he is an ex-Raven I guess.Some people on here seem to think the Ravens are the end all of all things football with their 1(one) SB trophy.

  • priesttj

    I know Lefty12 they tend to get that way about whoever is winning. Same ole same ole….

  • Just Fire Baby

    Troy Smith had 6 starts last year.

    Three of those 6 (half his f’n starts) he posted a worse QB rating than what Bruce did against Miami.

    Uhhhhh…….no thanks.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Alex Smith on the other hand, only had 1 of 11 starts with a worse QB rating than 63.5

  • Kirk

    I think they should have called it Camp Buford.

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    That is good news to hear that these guys areworking on their chemistry together! I hope this lockout gets lifted soon! Go Raiders!!!