Camp Seymour, Day 2
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, May 25th, 2011 at 11:42 am in Oakland Raiders.
Notes and quotes as relayed by correspondent Ben Beitzel of the Gwinnett Daily Post at a passing camp attended by Raiders’ players in the Atlanta area:
– No sign of wide receiver Chaz Schilens, but Javon Walker was running patterns against a Raiders defense in a series of 7-on-7 drills.
Rest easy. Walker isn’t being brought back. Walker was among 30 professional players brought in by Florida-based trainer Tom Shaw for a 40-minute session working with the Raiders. Other non-Raiders included Ike Taylor, James Farrior, Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis and Santonio Holmes.
Beitzel reports Raiders units were sharper than those from Shaw’s group on both sides of the ball and the most vocal defenders were Groves and Kamerion Wimbley.
– A hand count of Wednesday’s attendees numbered 32. Among those who weren’t seen included Schilens, defensive end Trevor Scott (out following ACL surgery last year) and cornerback Stanford Routt. Players who weren’t there Tuesday but attended Wednesday included defensive end Lemarr Houston, defensive tackle Desmond Bryant and linebacker Quentin Groves.
Rookie lineman Joe Barksdale was not with the team, but fourth-round pick Chimdi Chekwa was on the field.
Two players who were not in attendance after being there Tuesday were linebacker Rolando McClain and offensive guard/tackle Bruce Campbell.
– Rookie center Stefan Wisniewski is getting a head start. Incumbent center Samson Satele, like the other Raiders players not under contract, is not in Atlanta. Satele has a pending second-round tender that may or may not be applicable when the lockout ends.
“Some of the older guys got in contact with me,” Wisniewski said. “Obviously, we can’t talk to any coaches. They told me about the camp and I thought it would be a good idea to come down and start working with my teammates. It’s been great so far. We are working hard down here with the team and learning a lot.”
Wisniewski’s uncle, Steve Wisniewski, remains off-limits, according to Stefen.
Daniel Loper, the presumptive starter at left guard assuming Robert Gallery departs, was good-naturedly giving the rookie a hard time during his interview.
Wisniewski recognized “a slight risk of injury, but we aren’t going super hard. We are trying not to hurt each other out here. We are just out here working. Gus are smart about that . . . we are not under contract yet, so we are not covered by our team so it’s definitely a little bit risky.”
– Quarterback Jason Campbell was pleased with the 7-on-7 work.
“The main thing for us is just installing,” Campbell said. “You are trying to get the guys to hear it as much as possible before we leave this week so when the lockout ends it won’t take guys so long to catch on.”
As for the playbook volume, Campbell said, “We are running pretty much all our plays, trying to install them. For the guys hearing it for the first time, it’s a different language. They’re just trying to get used to it.”
– Running back Taiwan Jones, who had a metatarsal fracture and surgery late in his college season, continues to heal. He said he was more than 90 percent healed at the time of the draft (which didn’t prevent him from running a sub-4.3 40-yard dash time at his Pro Day).
“I’ve been taking some time to let my foot heal,” Jones said. “I am trying to get back in shape, but at the same time I’m getting a chance to meet the players and learn as much as I can from them.”
Jones said he is joining huddles to listen to play calls to speed up the learning process.
“Everyone’s been welcoming,” Jones said. “It’s been a good environment.”
– Although the Atlanta Falcons have been using the same Buford High football field following the Raiders, there are no plans for the two teams to work out together.
– Here’s a link to a photo of the Raiders running a play, courtesy of Rock Cartwright’s Twitter account.
– Media availability at the passing camp was scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday only.
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May 25th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Brown to the Lakers? Ha ha! Cool! Adelman’s still available. I’m still hoping the Kings bring Adelman back, now that they’re serious and about to start spending money again.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Look at the players out there, hitting the field, working out, ready to play. Look at the owners. Sitting there in dark rooms with lawyers and consultants, thinking of new ways to screw the fans and the players, make more money for themselves, with locks on the gates, postponing football in 2010.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am
The Lakers are on their way to being average as soon as Kobe is gone.
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TJ,
KB turns 33 in a couple months and L.A. got swept by Dallas bro
a teams that loses to Utah (twice), Golden State, L.A. Clippers, Sacramento & Cleveland during the regular season is already average imo
May 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
No sign of wide receiver Chaz Schilens, but Javon Walker was running patterns against a Raiders defense in a series of 7-on-7 drills.
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LOL!
theres our vet mentor for the young WR Corps (again)
May 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Link?
May 25th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Get Javon Walker away from our rookies right now!!!! He is going to make them infect them with the weak bug!!!!
Why not bring Stuie to show the DBs how to make a proper tackle. LMAO!!!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 11:54 am
JB Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Link?
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http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/05/25/camp-seymour-day-2/
May 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Bruce Campbell lined up at right tackle during scrimmage situations rather than at right guard
Daniel Loper, the presumptive starter at left guard assuming Robert Gallery departs
Samson Satele is not in Atlanta.
Rookie lineman Joe Barksdale was not with the team
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Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Carlisle-Campbell ???
May 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am
LOL, Groves beating in Reece in a footrace – Reece needs to get in gear before the season! Good to hear Groves be vocal though, he could become a good and solid addition now he knows the team and his role!
http://www.twitvid.com/6BTZ4
May 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Rolando probably got one day of this candy-azzed thing and split.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Campbell says the Raiders are running all 9 plays in their playbook at these drills.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I know Chaz is coming off an injury and should not participate at all, but whould you not want to show up to show veteran leadership and be a part of the team activities?
I mean this guy has been off the radar for over a year. I would be doing all I could to mentor the new rookie WRs, learn the new play book and fit in. I am getting bad vibes when it comes to Chaz, aka “MR. Glass.”
May 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Call me crazy, but I am not convinced that Routt is that much better than CJ37.
MM34 has to be a SS (not FS material) and Branch should have to COMPETE to win the FS job, along with Hiram and Steve Brown.
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JFB knows whats up!
May 25th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Art Shell should fly over to help the o-line practice.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Great man get that kid up to snuff quick, as well as DMoore. Wiz IMO will be a quick study while Barksdale make take more time.
I really think Chekwa ia going to surprise some people, His play is more physical than people think and he can cover. That kid is no slouch and I’ve been a fan of DVD since I first saw the kid his game is very similar to Nnamdi’s. Some may see that as a criticism but I don’t the kid can mirror as well as anyone in this draftand has decent ball skills. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see both those kids getting a lot of playing time if we lose Nnamdi.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
@RAIDER, after J-Russ no longer is on the team it is safe to assume that the playbook is no longer a Pixi-Book – especially if Saunders has been getting his will..
Will be interesting to see how many of those plays they will implement in the season though!
May 25th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RR- I see nothing crazy about that dude.
I am not a Routt fan. Nothing about his game wows me. I just don’t get the pay out to keep him.
Here is the million dollar question what happens to your boy Huff? Does he stay or go?
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13.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Call me crazy, but I am not convinced that Routt is that much better than CJ37.
MM34 has to be a SS (not FS material) and Branch should have to COMPETE to win the FS job, along with Hiram and Steve Brown.
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JFB knows whats up!
May 25th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
what happens to your boy Huff? Does he stay or go?
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CJ Legend,
Mike Huff & Johnnie Lee are both done in Oakland. 2 of my faves
but I can’t wait to re-sign Kirk Morrison when FA starts up!
May 25th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Speaking of J-Russ I am surprised they did not invite him to come throw balls aginst our defense.
Our defense may try to tackle the guy with no pads on they hate him so much.
Man that kid really blew it.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RR- I know Huff was your boy covering some of the best TEs in the game and blowing up screens. You schooled me on that one! So what are we going to do now? Who takes the TE?
May 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
The Raiders a going to use a more advanced playbook? Oh, if I had a dollar every time I’d heard this in the past 20 years…
May 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of J-Russ I am surprised they did not invite him to come throw balls aginst our defense.
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CJ Legend,
you want guys like Brown, Eugene, McFadden, Ware, DVD & Chewy to look like All-Stars in Atlanta?
May 25th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
what are we going to do now? Who takes the TE?
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McClain, Branch or Mitchell
May 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Schillens isn’t really a Raider, as far as I’m concerned.Never healthy, hasn’t done squat, for all the hopefull talk we’ve been hearing forever, WHERE IS HE?He is USELESS UNTIL PROVEN.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
For all of this talk about us finally stepping up to an advanced playbook after letting a bonehead QB go, face it, it only really happened with Gruden, didn’t it? The only time we persistently used an advanced playbook from what the Raiders typically use was the time Gruden was here, right? Those 3-4 years?
May 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Souldog, if Schillens is injury prone and all talk, that would probably make him more of a Raider these days.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
priesttj I saw Checkwa play at OSU every week and he was tough man. Better physical player than a speed player. I would be surprised if he did not turn out to be a solid DB in the NFL. OSU has a good track record on DBs in the league.
Now I am not sure about DVD. Did you follow the guy in college? He seems a little light weight to me.
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15.priesttj Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Great man get that kid up to snuff quick, as well as DMoore. Wiz IMO will be a quick study while Barksdale make take more time.
I really think Chekwa ia going to surprise some people, His play is more physical than people think and he can cover. That kid is no slouch and I’ve been a fan of DVD since I first saw the kid his game is very similar to Nnamdi’s. Some may see that as a criticism but I don’t the kid can mirror as well as anyone in this draftand has decent ball skills. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see both those kids getting a lot of playing time if we lose Nnamdi.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Everything JaMarcus Russell is ALL on Al Davis.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Exactly!!! He will build up their confidence and they will get killed next year!!! : )
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22.RaiderRockstar Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Speaking of J-Russ I am surprised they did not invite him to come throw balls aginst our defense.
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CJ Legend,
you want guys like Brown, Eugene, McFadden, Ware, DVD & Chewy to look like All-Stars in Atlanta?
May 25th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Campbell says the Raiders are running all 9 plays in their playbook at these drills.
This made me laugh. Let me take a shot:
DMac run outside left
DMac run inside left
DMac run up the middle
DMac run inside right
DMac run outside right
Screen to Reese
Outside Pass to Murphy
Over the Middle Pass to Miller
Bomb to DHB
That’s my 9!
May 25th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I got the “9 plays” thing from Ice Cube. After the Raiders lost the Super Bowl, Ice Cube said on that show, “Best Damn Sports Show” (still on?), “I was thinking, they’d better not go out there and run the same 9 plays”. lol. Cube’s another frustrated Raider fan.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
but I can’t wait to re-sign Kirk Morrison when FA starts up!
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That would be great! Would provide fantastic depth. Think he could compete for the WLB spot? Cannot think he would be slower than Groves? But if Morrison signed, I think Ricky B might be gone.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
SoulDog,
I know it’s frustrating with Schillens. They have not been able to count on him because he can’t stay healthy. Seemingly constant, nagging foot and knee injuries.
When he’s been able to play, he has been very impressive.
IF, and it’s a big IF, because he hasn’t been able to do it yet, he can stay healthy…he could help take Oaklands passing game to the next level.
He is just what they need. A big bodied WR with good hands who can take some pressure off Miller, and make the tough catch to move the chains.
Hopefully, those fragile bones in his feet have completely healed, and he’s just been snake bit the last couple of years.
A healthy season from Chaz could be huge to this team.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I didn’t know people actually watched the “Best Damn Sports Show”.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Anybody an “ESPN” Insider?
Story about “Still hope for Nnamdi in Oakland?”-Source: Raiders hope to retain CB
May 25th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I really don’t get all the hate for Chaz.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but come on. The guys is one of the best overall receivers we have. He was a 7th (I’ll say it again… 7th) round pick who makes nothing.
He gets hurt. Yeah, I got it. But are you really going to give up on a talented guy who can help you win just because he gets hurt from time to time? Not to mention, when he does play, he’s a big target who catches the ball in the end zone.
Chaz is one of my favorite players and I hope he proves everyone wrong. I hope he blows up. (insert blows up knee jokes here) And I hope it’s the start of something big.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
JFB, I don’t know if the Best Damn is even on anymore. Wasn’t it on Fox Sports, which is now Comcast? I have no idea. As far as “nobody” having watched it, I’d be interested in seeing the ratings to see if that’s true. Seems it was on a long time.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
jezuz it is official…Mike fkn Brown is the new HC of the Lakers.
I think I might be sick.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Woo hoo! Adelman’s out there. Come on, George and Gavin. Reel him in. Add Rick and a couple of decent vets and the Kings are back. We know the Lakers aren’t a factor anymore. Just build to compete with Dallas, Oklahoma, etc.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
IF, and it’s a big IF, because he hasn’t been able to do it yet, he can stay healthy…he could help take Oaklands passing game to the next level.
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Yes, if, if’s & but’s, were candy & nuts, we’d all have merry x-mas.
Al Davis as GM has lost 57% of his games since 1989. Now, if…… and if Al doesn’t fk it up, and if…….any of them rookies can play…………….and if Hue get’s off to a fast start…….. if………
May 25th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Kell
Just if, baby.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Everything I’m hearing from this camp is great. Especially inviting other vets to compete against us. It will be huge for our rookie DBS to go against Holmes and others.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Bauce,
You said earlier that Campbell always has a good TD to INT ratio.
I am here to tell you not so much. True he always is on the plus side of things, but good QB’s usually have at least a 2-1 TD to INT ratio, often times 3-1. The elites are up in the 4 to 1, 5 to 1 ratio. Matt Cassell was even a 5 to 1 guy last year.
Soup, has never even been 2 to 1 on his TD to INT’s in a season. Every year, he is right at 1.7 to 1, which isn’t much better than Jamarcus Russell in 2008.
Soup HAS TO HAVE at least a 2.5 to 1 this year. No more 13 TD’s to 8 INT’s. We need 21 TD’s 8 INT’s.
Anything less, and we will be talking draft around X-mas time again next year.
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13 TDs and 8 Ints will need to be improved on no doubt but he also needs 16 starts dammit. We should have never benched him because it had a direct effect on us making the playoffs
Look over course of many of the best Qbs in NFL history and see what their TD to INT ratio over course of their career.
13:8 was good considering the circumstances on the line and at WR. As said before the ridiculous benching is a factor too.
Using Russell is a bad example. He didnt care at all about his team. Sure 2008 at the latter part of season he looked better but then followed it up with a 3 TD over 10 int season in 2009. WE all thought JR was improving but we found out that was not the case. You know JC wont do that. Plus JC still led a pretty damn good offense
Anyhow I do agree we need a 20 TD 10 int campaign from JC. I’m on record saying there are no excuses this season for us not making playoffs. Being on the plus side of the TD INT ratio can not be seen as a negative for JC.
As I keep saying he is a not a HOF qb nor a pro bowler. WE need to pass 25 times a game and run damn near 40 times. JC is a very good on the play action game we wanna run and we can win with him at QB
May 25th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
# Dakota Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
jezuz it is official…Mike fkn Brown is the new HC of the Lakers.
I think I might be sick.
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Bad bad move……Kobe aint gonna listen to this guy lol. What is his offensive gameplan? Lakers in trouble with DILBERT coaching them
May 25th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Everything I’m hearing from this camp is great. Especially inviting other vets to compete against us. It will be huge for our rookie DBS to go against Holmes and others.
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Scabs
May 25th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Kings get Adelman back and they’re champs in 2 years. They’re in the western finals next year.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
# DutchRaider77 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
but I can’t wait to re-sign Kirk Morrison when FA starts up!
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That would be great! Would provide fantastic depth. Think he could compete for the WLB spot? Cannot think he would be slower than Groves? But if Morrison signed, I think Ricky B might be gone.
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Kirk as our WLB would be perfect….its his natural spot….he too soft to play in the middle. But outside would be do wonders for us
May 25th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Kings get Adelman back and they’re champs in 2 years. They’re in the western finals next year.
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LOL….you will be an Al Davis fan before that happens
May 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Dakota Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
jezuz it is official…Mike fkn Brown is the new HC of the Lakers.
I think I might be sick.
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Thank god you guys took him instead of my W’s.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I’m an Al Davis fan now, as an owner. Just not as a GM. The game passed him by 30 years ago.
May 25th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Video of the boys in action:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ffe68a/article/seymours-solo-act-sets-intense-tone-during-raiders-workout
May 25th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Kings…??
Champs…????
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Kings as champs sounds funny. But consider, they only have to build for Dallas and Oklahoma. Lakers aren’t a factor anymore. Mike Brown and Kobe Bryant? 45-50 wins. tops.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
CJlegend all I can tell is he has superior cover skills than some drafted higher than he was. His game is quickness and smooth transition he’s not phsyical but he doesn’t shy away from contact. His strength is coverage deep he can run all day long. He needs to be able to jam better and play better in short zones. His makeup speed is how he gets things but watching Nnamdi and others he can learn how to redirect and jam better. He’s not ready to start but he can play the slot and cover the 2nd rec.
Chekwa is more ready to start IMO because his game is more physical and he is tough vs the run. Not to mention he can bump and run better than DVD. I didn’t get to see Chekwa’s ball skills as much as I wanted to but he didn’t play scared.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
I’m an Al Davis fan now, as an owner. Just not as a GM. The game passed him by 30 years ago.
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You will become a fan of his GM skills before Kings make WCF next season lol…..thats my real point
May 25th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Brien, a fan of what GM skills, of Al Davis? does he have any GM skills for today’s game? Come on.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bauce!!!
What it do mayne?
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
After watching quietly for several years, I find the posts here rather odd.
What the heck are posts about Lakers doing here? Besides,the Lakers have won 2 consecutive rings, has that been forgotten? Its not like we are talking about the Warriors…lol
May 25th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Dakota Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
jezuz it is official…Mike fkn Brown is the new HC of the Lakers.
I think I might be sick.
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Thank god you guys took him instead of my W’s.
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Amen to that AIG……Jerry West will at least make some moves to get a real coach and real players. Monta….goodbye
May 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
# r8eray Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bauce!!!
What it do mayne?
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Any and everything in between….its rainy up North right now man….fked off weather
May 25th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Brien,they are not scabs.Scabs are workers that cross picket lines and replace workers who have gone on strike.The players aren’t on strike,they aren’t being allowed to work.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
# 2bbige Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
After watching quietly for several years, I find the posts here rather odd.
What the heck are posts about Lakers doing here? Besides,the Lakers have won 2 consecutive rings, has that been forgotten? Its not like we are talking about the Warriors…lol
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So what that they won two consecutive rings? Hell does that mean going further? Kobe is surely not thinking about past titles
Yes we will continue to talk about the Warriors….this is a blog from the OAKLAND tribune
May 25th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
# lefty12 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Brien,they are not scabs.Scabs are workers that cross picket lines and replace workers who have gone on strike.The players aren’t on strike,they aren’t being allowed to work.
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I know this, but our good pal MR says otherwise
May 25th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Brien, a fan of what GM skills, of Al Davis? does he have any GM skills for today’s game? Come on.
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So u get the point about my statement or are you mentally challenged?
May 25th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
# r8eray Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bauce!!!
What it do mayne?
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Any and everything in between….its rainy up North right now man….fked off weather
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Sorry to hear that bro..
Yeah it’s 76* with clear skys here in SoCal!
Heard the good news about your Warriors….you happy about that?
May 25th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Emdub52-post36-that is what they do on here-hate on any and most members of the team and the owner.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Kings as champs sounds funny. But consider, they only have to build for Dallas and Oklahoma. Lakers aren’t a factor anymore. Mike Brown and Kobe Bryant? 45-50 wins. tops.
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This is Dallas final shot at the title in 2011 and Dirk knows it. Chokelahoma,Denver,Memphis and Portland are the teams of the future inthe west that Anaheim I mean er Sac has to worry about
May 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
2bbige Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
After watching quietly for several years, I find the posts here rather odd.
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Another cross-dressing troll.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Well, your point is obsolete, because first we have to deal with the absurd notion that Al Davis has any GM skills for today’s game. He has one. For a laugh, I’d ask you just what Al Davis knows about today’s game, and what kinds of moves he makes that keeps the Raiders competitive today. But I don’t want to embarrass you. So I’ll let you off easy. LEt’s just admit Al has no GM skills for today’s game, ok?
May 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# r8eray Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
# r8eray Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Bauce!!!
What it do mayne?
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Any and everything in between….its rainy up North right now man….fked off weather
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Sorry to hear that bro..
Yeah it’s 76* with clear skys here in SoCal!
Heard the good news about your Warriors….you happy about that?
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Yeah well SoCal weather will always kick our ass lol
I’m happy about it but I’ll be even more happy once Monta is gone and we get a real post player
May 25th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Living here in Memphis right now folks are still cussing Jerry West out for the Gasol trade. Hopefully Jerry doesnt do deals with the Lakers.
Why you be hating on Monta? Dude is the only bonafide star on our roster. Sorry but I aint buying that toothpick, slow as heck and turnover prone Curry. Monta can carry his team but Curry will never carry his team.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Anaheim’s out, Brien. Kings are getting a new arena in Sac now. No way it’s going to lose at the ballot box this time. Not after that scare. That whole Anaheim thing was a good bluff. It worked. They’re in Sac, they’re staying in Sac. And, they’ve been building these weak teams, with puppet coaches like Westphal, because they’ve had one foot out the door. Did you see Gavin on t.v. right after the deal was made to stay another year? He was boasting of his cap space. He’s going to spend money now. This is the old Gavin. Kings are back.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Well, your point is obsolete, because first we have to deal with the absurd notion that Al Davis has any GM skills for today’s game. He has one. For a laugh, I’d ask you just what Al Davis knows about today’s game, and what kinds of moves he makes that keeps the Raiders competitive today. But I don’t want to embarrass you. So I’ll let you off easy. LEt’s just admit Al has no GM skills for today’s game, ok?
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No the absurd notion is getting Adelman back as if that will make you a WCF appearance. I countered and said you would be a fan of Al Davis(GM) before that happens. Stay on topic here
You dont like Al’s gm skills today as we all know but my point cant be obsolete when Adelman aint even going back to SAC lol. NEXT
May 25th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Anaheim’s out, Brien. Kings are getting a new arena in Sac now. No way it’s going to lose at the ballot box this time. Not after that scare. That whole Anaheim thing was a good bluff. It worked. They’re in Sac, they’re staying in Sac. And, they’ve been building these weak teams, with puppet coaches like Westphal, because they’ve had one foot out the door. Did you see Gavin on t.v. right after the deal was made to stay another year? He was boasting of his cap space. He’s going to spend money now. This is the old Gavin. Kings are back.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
May 25th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Soon to be stars: Lamarr Houston
“Houston will be one of the best defensive linemen in the league. I firmly believe that.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/27796/soon-to-be-stars-lamarr-houston
May 25th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Living here in Memphis right now folks are still cussing Jerry West out for the Gasol trade. Hopefully Jerry doesnt do deals with the Lakers.
Why you be hating on Monta? Dude is the only bonafide star on our roster. Sorry but I aint buying that toothpick, slow as heck and turnover prone Curry. Monta can carry his team but Curry will never carry his team.
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A point guard carry your team? LOL
AIG you are smarter than this
Monta is a 6th man. He is like Jason Terry or Bobby Jackson. Good player? Yes. Starting nba SG on a winning team? Never
May 25th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Brien, it’s not a matter of me liking or disliking Al Davis’s GM skill. He has no skills to like or dislike! What part of that don’t you understand? Brien, go ahead and tell me what skills Al Davis has to build a team in today’s league. No hyperbole. Be specific. Tell me how Davis is competing with the Packers, Steelers, etc. What moves is he making that has the attention of those franchises? I’ll wait. This is going to be hilarious.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Bruce rules says:
So what that they won two consecutive rings? Hell does that mean going further? Kobe is surely not thinking about past titles
Yes we will continue to talk about the Warriors….this is a blog from the OAKLAND tribune
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This is a blog from the Oakland Tribune about the RAIDERS correct (check the name of the blog)?
Go to the Warriors or Queens (I mean Kings) blog and spew the anti Laker nonsense. When the Warriors and/or Kings win at least ONE championship, then bash the Lakers.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Curry is better for Warriors to keep than Monta out of the offense I score FAILus
May 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
# 2bbige Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Bruce rules says:
So what that they won two consecutive rings? Hell does that mean going further? Kobe is surely not thinking about past titles
Yes we will continue to talk about the Warriors….this is a blog from the OAKLAND tribune
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This is a blog from the Oakland Tribune about the RAIDERS correct (check the name of the blog)?
Go to the Warriors or Queens (I mean Kings) blog and spew the anti Laker nonsense. When the Warriors and/or Kings win at least ONE championship, then bash the Lakers.
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F@ggot this is an Oakland blog not an LA blog. Why dont you just type in ibabuzz.com….and see what team is featured for the NBA
And Warriors already have a title…..at least know what the fk you are talking about b*tch
May 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
It’s not a good day for Laker fans, obviously. I mean, when it’s just announced that Mike Brown is filling the shoes of Phil Jackson. lmfao.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Kings have a title…..2002…..we all know this true. Last year of NBC having NBA, you know thet jue Stern fixed it and Donaghy spilled the beans….NEXT
May 25th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
It’s not a good day for Laker fans, obviously. I mean, when it’s just announced that Mike Brown is filling the shoes of Phil Jackson. lmfao.
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The Los Angeles Snitchers better get Igoudala and Howard or they are cooked
May 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
I wonder if bringing certain vets in for Big Rich’s camp could be a sign of things to come?
In other news that Lakers got the best coach available. Don’t think so? Brown won Coach of the year and was one all-star away from delivering the Cavs a championship.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Kings have a title…..2002…..we all know this true. Last year of NBC having NBA, you know thet jue Stern fixed it and Donaghy spilled the beans….NEXT
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Thank you.
Stick to basketball, Brien. It’s your topic.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
PUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!
May 25th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
A point guard can definitely carry your team…hello Steve Nash, Jason Kid, Baron Davis, Timmy Hardaway, or pick any of the top teams in the league. They say Curry can be a future Nash but Nash is a much better dribbler and ball handler than Curry will ever be.
The Warriors trouble is not Ellis. It is the lack of a legit big body down there to fight for rebounds and have a low post scoring presence. When was the last time we had someone who can legitly play the ball in the post? Baron Davis is the only one prior to Chris Webber.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I remember Laker fans back in 2002 saying that if it were really fixed, somebody would come out and say it. Nobody can keep a secret like that anymore. So, fast forward a few years, a ref comes out, says it, and they deny him. lol. Sorry. When you send someone on a fools errand and they come back with the goods…you’ve got to own up. Most classless fans in sports. And look at those Dodger fans, to boot.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Dont put it past the Lakers to get Howard. He’s going to want to team up with Kobe to counter LeBron and Wade.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
A point guard can definitely carry your team…hello Steve Nash, Jason Kid, Baron Davis, Timmy Hardaway, or pick any of the top teams in the league. They say Curry can be a future Nash but Nash is a much better dribbler and ball handler than Curry will ever be.
The Warriors trouble is not Ellis. It is the lack of a legit big body down there to fight for rebounds and have a low post scoring presence. When was the last time we had someone who can legitly play the ball in the post? Baron Davis is the only one prior to Chris Webber.
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Carry them to what title? At the end of the day we are talking about being a champion. none of those guys you mentioned carried a team to the title
Oh please I go to Warrior games and Monta dribbles too much and takes shots out of the offensive scheme all the time. He is 6′2 170 lbs at SG and cant guard the chair you are sitting in
May 25th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Kings have a title…..2002…..we all know this true. Last year of NBC having NBA, you know thet jue Stern fixed it and Donaghy spilled the beans….NEXT
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Thank you.
Stick to basketball, Brien. It’s your topic.
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Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn I use that line on you the other day….Be original
May 25th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I remember Laker fans back in 2002 saying that if it were really fixed, somebody would come out and say it. Nobody can keep a secret like that anymore. So, fast forward a few years, a ref comes out, says it, and they deny him. lol. Sorry. When you send someone on a fools errand and they come back with the goods…you’ve got to own up. Most classless fans in sports. And look at those Dodger fans, to boot.
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No Yankee and Niner fans are worse than Laker fans…..Dodger fans are cool
May 25th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Anyways its been fun guys…..but got some stuff to do before I see if OKC has any heart left or Dallas puts nail in coffin…..be cool
May 25th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Sorry, Brien, I wasnt aware you coined the phrase, “stick to basketball”.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
No MR i told you to stick to hollywood and music…
May 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Raiderreign-Read the article.Those veterans were brought in by trainer Tom Shaw-they are his clients and have nothing to do with Raider players.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Niner fans? They’re the most mild fans in sports. If they’re guilty of anything it’s being fairweather.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
# RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Well, your point is obsolete, because first we have to deal with the absurd notion that Al Davis has any GM skills for today’s game. He has one. For a laugh, I’d ask you just what Al Davis knows about today’s game, and what kinds of moves he makes that keeps the Raiders competitive today. But I don’t want to embarrass you. So I’ll let you off easy. LEt’s just admit Al has no GM skills for today’s game, ok?
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That Seymour trade is looking pretty decent. Also getting JCamp wasn’t a bad move. So was getting Wimbley and Groves. Satele was better than Grove. I can go on …………
May 25th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
lol, ok, Brien. You should put out a book of your quotes so people can correctly attribute them to you.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Bruce rules says:
what is up with the slurs??? Is that due to an absence of constructive vocabulary? I don’t agree with your opinions, but don’t feel compelled to stoop to such verbiage. That is sad.
My bad, 1975 so long ago I had forgotten.
Question, why is the blog bear the current name if its designed for the Warriors? Is the primary author of the blog a beat writer for the Warriors or Kings? Advise.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Bauce,
We made 1 playoff appearance in the last 20 yrs I believe. You’re dreaming of a championship…..lmao.
Basketball is a 5 on 5 game playing both ends so you end up with a few players dominating the league. We aint ever going to sniff any championship contention until we have 1 of top 5 players in the league. Basketball is like Tennis. It aint like Baseball, Hockey, or Football where you involved a whole lot more than 5 guys.
If you go to every game, then you should know by now that we need a legit big man and it doesnt take a genius to figure that out. Your team can’t be shooting jumpers every game to try to win.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
RaiderReign,
Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England, Indianapolis, and New Orleans are worried about the Raiders right now because they have Richard Seymour? Thanks for playing. Next.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
correction “why DOES” the blog…..
May 25th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
– No sign of wide receiver Chaz Schilens, but Javon Walker was running patterns against a Raiders defense in a series of 7-on-7 drills.
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Nice one Jerry. You almost had me puking.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
To win you must have leaders on your team. I LOVE the Seymour trade. Al hosed the Patriots on that one.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Carry them to what title? At the end of the day we are talking about being a champion. none of those guys you mentioned carried a team to the title
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Four words: Isaih Thomas, Brent Barry
Oh and lefty maybe I should leave the wild speculations to you blog vets?
May 25th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
DutchRaider77 I was desparate to get Lamaar Houston in the draft he reminds me of another kid I wanted really bad in Sedrick Ellis. When we drafted this kid I went nuts. And he did nothing to disappoint me. I agree with the writer this kid was a huge hit for the Raiders.
Along with Des Bryant who I think played his best ball as a pro the second half of the year when Seymour was playing hurt. Very impressed with both.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
puke phillup rivers on the tube
May 25th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
To win you must have leaders on your team. I LOVE the Seymour trade. Al hosed the Patriots on that one.
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The Patriots went 14-2 last year, don’t be stupid.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
RaiderReign,
Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England, Indianapolis, and New Orleans are worried about the Raiders right now because they have Richard Seymour? Thanks for playing. Next.
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Reading is fundamental. I said it was a decent trade. I made no extrapolations like you assume. Reread my post cuz you’re way off topic from what I said.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
What the Patriots do has nothing to do with our team. They have a HOF QB so comparison is Misguided and illogical at best. Trading for Seymour was a good idea.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
June 3 is next Friday the lockout will be lifted by Friday
May 25th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
a week before the courts decide what to do
May 25th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
The courts alredy ruled on a permanent stay to keep the lockout in place until after they reach a decision on whether it’s legal or not. lockout will be on until the players unionize and bargain i think.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
As I keep saying he is a not a HOF qb nor a pro bowler. WE need to pass 25 times a game and run damn near 40 times. JC is a very good on the play action game we wanna run and we can win with him at QB
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We are not just going to get away with winning big games by passing 25 or less times each game.
There will be crucial moments, in crucial games, where he might need to throw 25 passes IN THE SECOND HALF to come back and win.
Winning, by hiding your QB, only works when you have a Jets, Bears, Ravens type thing, when you get an elite top 5 rushing defense, and the defense and ST put points on the board and get turnovers.
May 25th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Yes NE went 14-2 last year. They did it mostly on the strength of MVP Brady, Wes Welker and the passing game.
Even with the genious of Belicheat, their defense was up and down, and downright mediocre at times.
The bottom line is NE hasn’t won a post season game since the trade was made. Baltimore and Ray Rice humiliated them two years ago. Isn’t the ring the thing?
Many Boston media and Patriot fans think NE defenitely misses Seymours nastiness and leadership.
Meanwhile, Oakland was back in playoff contention last year, for the first time in seven years. Probably shoulda won the division, but didn’t get it done.
Seymour seems hell bent on getting them there this year.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Think of it this way. The Patriots don’t have Adrian Peterson. Does that make AP irrelevant? No, your just using flawed logic.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
If Richard Seymour never plays in a playoff game wearing the Silver and Black, the trade will be a massive failure for Al.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
in my eyes Seymour was worth the money and the 1st rounder. he single handedly has changed the culture of this team amidst the russell mess. his production on the field is a bonus for me. even sapp hasn’t been scoffing at the raiders. we are no longer a joke and it’s in large part because of him.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I like the Seymour trade too, but to say Al “hosed” the Patriots is ridiculous. Do you have to swallow nonsense like that to be a Raider fan around here?
May 25th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
To win you must have leaders on your team. I LOVE the Seymour trade. Al hosed the Patriots on that one.
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The Patriots went 14-2 last year, don’t be stupid.
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Kookkell,
Nice try twisting my words. I didnt say anything about the Patriots having lost their leadership. They have plenty of others who are still there and will step in. Seymoure has brought a much needed and sorely lacked leadership in the Raider locker room in quite sometime. You’re trying hard and thanks for playing.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
If Richard Seymour never plays in a playoff game wearing the Silver and Black, the trade will be a massive failure for Al.
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First off I agree, buy consider some things:
1. A rookie drafted this year would not be under contract (Something Al knew ahead of time.)
2. A rookie would not have organized this camp.
3. A rookie would not of helped us last year.
4. Would you make the statement “If we don’t make the playoffs that 2011 pick was a failure”
May 25th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
1. The Patriots DLine has been one of their achilles heels the last 2 years. It’s not a coincidence that it happened around the same time they let Seymour go. Yes AL HOSED THE PATRIOTS ON THAT TRADE.
2. I doubt that Colorado LT that they took this year is going to put any fear into the Raider Nation as the guy we MISSED out on.
3. I doubt Al could have gotten anything near Seymour’s worth with that 17th pick this year.
YES AL got a steal in that Seymour trade.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
4. Would you make the statement “If we don’t make the playoffs that 2011 pick was a failure”
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That is a fair point.
I think you have to look at the age thing as well. At best we should get another 5 years from Seymour, but probably more like 3-4.
Ideally, your 1st round pick is contributing for close to 10 years.
So, the Seymour trade was made by Al, as if we were in need of one player to take us over the hump. And if Seymour does take us over that hump, than that is a win for Al.
If not, than it is a fail. The playoffs for us are the line of demarcation on that trade, IMO.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
The Raiders were at the bottom of the league and our DLine has improved dramatically the past 2 years with lots of room to grow. Even if we only get Seymour for 2 more years of contribution, I still think it was a great trade to change the attitude of the locker room and improved us from the doormat of the league status.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Name 1 1st rd pick we’ve made in the last 15 years who has given us or will give us 10 productive years.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
So, the Seymour trade was made by Al, as if we were in need of one player to take us over the hump. And if Seymour does take us over that hump, than that is a win for Al.
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I think we need to define what is the HUMP (no sexual refs pls) for the Raiders at the time they got Seymour. If we were a perenial 8-8 team, then we need to go to the playoffs with Seymour. But we were not an avg team. We were the laughingstock of the league. So Seymour has already helped us achieve getting over our HUMP, imo.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
2. I doubt that Colorado LT that they took this year is going to put any fear into the Raider Nation as the guy we MISSED out on.
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I said before the draft that I thought Nate Solder would be a massive bust.
Let’s see if I know more than Bellicheck on this one, lol.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Name 1 1st rd pick we’ve made in the last 15 years who has given us or will give us 10 productive years.
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Tim Brown (just over the 15 years)
Seabass has been productive.
Hell, Nnamdi gave us 6 years.
I think RoMac will give us 13 good years, and Darren will get us close to 10.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I saw Nate Solder’s tapes at the Sr. Bowl and dude got owned. He plays really high and didnt look all that promising to me.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
And I would be happy if DHB gave us 10 productive games, lol
May 25th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Keep bashing the lakers that have 5 rings in the Kobe era same as Magic had in the 80’s and with a solid young point guard (Bynum and Odom for Howard Nelson or Odom for Felton and Harrington) Lakers will again be a championship threat
May 25th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Name 1 1st rd pick we’ve made in the last 15 years who has given us or will give us 10 productive years.
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Tim Brown (just over the 15 years)
Seabass has been productive.
Hell, Nnamdi gave us 6 years.
I think RoMac will give us 13 good years, and Darren will get us close to 10.
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Don’t forget Shane.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
So 1 out of 15,and he is a kicker.Brown was drafted more than 15 years ago.McFadden can’t stay healthy as a young 20 something year old.What makes you think he’ll stay healthier as he gets older?What you think about McLain doesn’t equate to truth.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Lechter was a 4th or 5th round pick.We are talking about 1st rounders.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Vegas,
That is a very fair point. If they fail to make the playoffs with Seymour, it would be very disappointing, if not a major fail.
You’re right about Seymours age vs a potential 1st rd pick and his career longevity and impact.
However, here’s another aspect to consider. Yes, Seymour may only have 2-3 impact years left. Look at the mentoring and on the job training he is providing the other young defensive lineman like Shaughnessy, Des Bryant, and especially L Houston, and hell look at the impact he’s made on Tommy Kelly.
That COULD continue to pay dividends long after Seymour is gone.
Just a thought.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Wasn’t Shane a 5th round draft pick?
May 25th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Lefty,
Yeah i thought I might’ve been wrong on that.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Was Nnamdi at the camp? No? Not good.
What about Lechler? A vocal Cable supporter. Wonder where he’ll be at next year. At least we get Sea ‘kick a few, miss a few’ Bass back. Wonder if Al has a live feed from the camp back to HQ.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Chaz is one of my favorite players and I hope he proves everyone wrong
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Al Davis can get a lot of jump suits and stop watches for $555k !
May 25th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Raiders WR Chaz Schilens has been put “on notice” after the team drafted Denarius Moore in round five.
Moore and Schilens aren’t necessarily similar players, but the latter has been the most injury prone player in the league over the last few seasons. He won’t be assured a roster spot. Moore, meanwhile, averaged over 20 yards a catch as a college senior and ran 4.45 at the Combine. He was a fifth-round steal.
May 6, 4:14 PM
Source: CSN Bay Area
May 25th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Where’s the website to buy Chaz a years supply of industrial bubble wrap? Cmon guys let’s do it.
May 25th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Chaz Schilens (foot, knee) was limited in Thursday’s practice.
“We’ll try to get (Schilens) a little more involved (Sunday) … because he really brings something to our team,” coach Tom Cable said. Schilens played just seven of 77 snaps in his first week back. We’re not expecting fantasy value in 2010.
Dec 9, 6:13 PM
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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expect more of the same in 2011 – sorry folks!
May 25th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Anyone who cannot see the wholesale changes in the attitude of this team since King Richard has been here isn’t paying attention. His leadership has been tremendous in so many ways it’s hard to quantify. Just take a look at this team when Sapp was here til now. When Sapp left we were the laughing stock of this league and rightly so.
Bring in Seymour and the addition of Camp plus a variety of excellent draft picks and “Voila” people are saying we’re the odds on favorite to “WIN THE DIVISION”!!.
NO ONE in their right mind would’ve uttered those words before Seymour got here. Remember on a radio station even Seymour was laughed at for saying we’d make it year before last. Now NFLN talking heads who were laughing at us are now picking us to win the division……………….namely WARREN SAPP!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
San Diego just signed Quentin Jammer’s cousin to play WR!
May 25th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
RRS after we drafted DMoore i got my hands on some film of this kid and I couldn’t believe he lasted as long as he did. People are goin to call me a homer but I’m telling ya’
DMoore is the single purest WR we’ve drafted since maybe Chaz. He isn’t as physically gifted as Chaz but as a pure WR meaning route running, hands, body control making tough catches and competitiveness, this kid was a great get.
He is IMO a better pure WR than JFord, he’s biult like Tim Brown a pro-ready pure WR.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RR, I don’t think Teams could sign anybody with the lock in place??
May 25th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
If Chaz isn’t careful Moore and Ausberry will take his spot. Both players are WR’s not athletes trying to play WR they are pure WR’s.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
If Chaz isn’t careful Moore and Ausberry will take his spot. Both players are WR’s not athletes trying to play WR they are pure WR’s.
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Didn’t you tell us DHB’s “film” reminded you of Jerry Rice?
You wouldn’t know a WR’s arsehole, if he was sitting on your face.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Priest all I have are youtube highlight reels, but do you think Ausberry body catches a lot?
May 25th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
……………….namely WARREN SAPP!!!
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F sapp…Fat slob….He was never a REAL RAIDER….
f him and his horse….
May 25th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
What up Thec? long time no see.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Guy Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Priest all I have are youtube highlight reels, but do you think Ausberry body catches a lot?
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I am a USC fan I like the smaller version of Aus.
He can make plays…
May 25th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
what’s Good Dakota? how you liking these NBA playoffs?
May 25th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I will make another outlandish prediction…
DMOORE will be RON this year…Print that…
May 25th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I don’t think Russell is ALL on Al Davis. As recently detailed in this column, exactly ONE draftnik predicted Russell’s failure. The rest of them had him rated as highly as Davis. In fact, your beloved Jon Gruden compared Russell to JOHN ELWAY. Russell wouldn’t have lasted more than a pick or two if Davis had passed. If you blame Davis for Russell, then give him credit for McFadden.
Al Davis has NO gm skills? I won’t say he’s the best GM in the league or even in the top 50%, but you’re behind the times with that stuff.
He made some wildly bad FA decisions in the Javon Walker/De Angelo Hall year, but he makes good trades. The Seymour trade, the Derrick Burgess trade, the Kamerion Wimbley trade, the Doug Gabriel trade come to mind. If you think that Bellicheat picks Al’s pocket, let me tell you for a fact that NE fans think the opposite is true.
His draft skills are up and down, but he had the best draft in the league last year, hands down. Tell me who had a better one.
God, sometimes I feel like a zoo cleaner sweeping up after the elephants when I come in here.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
DMoore is the single purest WR we’ve drafted since maybe Chaz. He isn’t as physically gifted as Chaz but as a pure WR meaning route running, hands, body control making tough catches and competitiveness, this kid was a great get.
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Truth
May 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RRS,
I hope that’s not the case. IF he could stay healthy..he would really help the passing game,IMO. If he can’t stay healthy..well that’s unfortunate, but it happens all the time. Maybe D Moore steps in and takes his place, or they bring in a veteran to fill that role.
He is a 7th rounder, if he can’t hold up it would be kinda sad, but not devestating.
You know what worries me more than Chaz’s brittle feet?
DMacs damn toes. That bothers me that he had a recurrence of turf toe already. He initially tried to say that he was questionable for the season finale because of a sprained ankle. Then reports came out that was another occurence of turf toe.
I know that sounds kinda funny and harmless but it’s not. It’s what finally ended Lamberts career. If this becomes chronic it could threaten McFadden’s career.
He tried to shoot em up and play through it his rookie year, and the results were disasterous.
Losing Darren McFadden would be a lot more devestating to this franchise than Chaz.
On the bright side, he is at the camp and apparently running with no ill effect. That’s a good sign.
Still something to keep an eye on.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
154.Thec07 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
what’s Good Dakota? how you liking these NBA playoffs?
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Well since the Lakers were kicked to the curb and I hate Lebron and Cuban there really isn’t much to take solace in with these playoffs. I see no good outcome. And the Lakers just hired a guy that has about as many answers for an NBA team as Tom Cable had answers for the Raiders. None.
PUUUUUUUUUKE
May 25th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
And the Lakers just hired a guy that has about as many answers for an NBA team as Tom Cable had answers for the Raiders. None.
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ROFLMAO…..
I cannot see Kobe listening to brown….
May 25th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
He is a 7th rounder, if he can’t hold up it would be kinda sad, but not devestating.
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Any production we get out of the guy is cream and he comes very cheap however he stays someones will be leaving as we will be keeping 7…. this too could change becuase of the CBA, as we may get 3 extra roster spots…
LMURPHY
DMOORE
Shallens
DHB
JFORD
?????? Vet to be named SSMITH
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May 25th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
160.Thec07 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
And the Lakers just hired a guy that has about as many answers for an NBA team as Tom Cable had answers for the Raiders. None.
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ROFLMAO…..
I cannot see Kobe listening to brown….
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MAYBE Kobe will let him coach the defense ….MAYBE.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Back to the shadows….
The entire sports world has a lot of pretenders, wannabies,copy cats, bitters etc however we all know
that only 1 nation exist….
that is the RAIDER NATION….
May 25th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
‘Sup Thec.
I see you’re high on DMoore, Too. I like everything I’m hearing and reading about this kid. Exciting potential. Sounds like we might have another steal on hand. We shall see.
R.O.N. I can live with that.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Ausberry doesn’t have tremendous hands but he rarely drops passes and makes difficult catches outside the frame of his body. Between the two Moore is a more gifted natural rec’r who will make circus catches. Ausberry is a physically tough rec’r who body catches more than he should. He needs more work running routes and development.
DMoore should’ve been drafted higher for the kind of skill level he has. Ausberry probably got drafted where he should’ve been based on production and ability he’s just not nearly as polished.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Is Ausberry usually as fast as he timed? He was the fastest Trojan at their pro day and he is huge.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
HJ said they were going to try Ausberry at TE-his words not mine.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Plus Ausberry was just hurt way too much similar to why we got Chaz where we got him.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Physically speaking Ausberry is a beast and he plays big as well he’ll go up and make great grabs, he jsut wasn’t featured like Mike Williams years ago. Why I’m not sure but USC played their speed WR’s much more.
I used to wonder why he didn’t play more but usually it was due to injury.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
And the Lakers just hired a guy that has about as many answers for an NBA team as Tom Cable had answers for the Raiders. None.
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Let it marinate for a minute and it’ll taste a little better.
Brown is straight off the Popovich coaching tree and has WAY more to work with than he had in Cleveland. He got LeBron + a lot of garbage to the Finals. I’d rather have him than Adleman or Dunleavy. And he has WAY more experience than Shaw.
Good Hire!
May 25th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Guy he’s everything physically they say he is speed size talent. He’s just not as skilled as he should be.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Sounds like a practice squad project.Hopefully after a year or two he will turn into something.
May 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Ausberry is 245lbs ????
Isn’t that Marcel Reese????
May 25th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Speaking of that, I still say it’s really sad that we are trying to pass Reece off as our FB.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Mike Brown thinks the triangle is something cowboy’s rang for chow time. I’m sick. All because they didn’t want to pay for a coach. Kinda like AD.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Jhill, Mike Brown has about as much charisma as my trash can. He has X’s and O’s down and has a great resume but can he handle the kind of superstars the lakers are after?
He let LBJ run all over him let him spend more time working on his dance moves than how to close out games. It’s not about the X’s and O’s when it comes to guys like MJ and Kobe and Shaq as it is getting them to do what THEY DON’T WANT TO DO. Phil could criticise Kobe publicly, do you really think Kobe would take that same criticism from Mike Brown?? I’m mean really??
May 25th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
When does Kobe first ask for a trade? After ther lockout?
May 25th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Lefty12 on this team I wouldn’t necessarily paint him as a PS player. If we don’t get a Vet WR this kid could show enough to make the team. I’m talking draft position he was picked where he should be now making the roster is something different.
Ausberry is as polished a WR as Ford was coming in Ford just worked hard and made them notice. Ausberry could easily do enough to make the roster it’s just a matter of how hard he works. Where you get drafted and where you end up are two very different things.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
So,finally someone on the team went off on Bobo Geren.Good for you,Fuentes.I’d like to see more players do it.It might force BB to dump the lard arse.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Jackson said and I quote-”We see him as a TE”.He isn’t going to play WR.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Soon to be stars: Lamarr Houston
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0I discussed Lamarr Houston quite a bit in my recent Scouts Eye column profiling all the defensive lines in the AFC West. But he still had to be the choice for me. Houston will be one of the best defensive linemen in the league. I firmly believe that. The Oakland Raiders are deep up front, and he can be brought along somewhat slowly. Houston has an immense talent level and showed very good production as a rookie.
Houston proved to be a great run defender with an excellent combination of power and quickness. He plays low, is quick to shed and will get better and better with this as he enhances his hand placement when taking on a block. And who better than Richard Seymour to teach Houston such a skill?
Soon To Be Stars
• Monday, May 23: Broncos
• Wednesday, May 25: Raiders
• Thursday, May 26: Chiefs
• Friday, May 27: Chargers
Houston also is raw as a pass-rusher and should benefit a great deal from watching and studying Seymour in this department as well. Houston just explodes off the football, and I have a hard time coming up with a defensive tackle in the league who is a better athlete than Houston.
Houston was a little up and down during his rookie season, which was to be expected. But he will only be 24 years old when the season starts. As he becomes more comfortable in the NFL and enhances his fundamental skills, I expect those inconsistencies to quickly disappear. Then? Look out!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
NBA coaches are as good as the players on their roster.
Mike Brown will be fine in LA.
I’m glad that triangle is gone. Time for some pick and rolls with Kobe and Lamar!
Mix it the eff up!
May 25th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
^
That didn’t really go up like I thought it would!
My Bad…..
May 25th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Why would Kobe want to be traded?
Because we hired a Popovich guy?
Not likely.
May 25th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Lefty12 if they switch him to a pass catching TE he’s a virtual lock to make the team. That’s what I thought they should do with Reece before they made him a FB. Now with Aus if they do it would be a natural move for him the same as I saw with Reece. Aus is alreayd 240 he can carry another 10 lbs. easy he’s all of 6′4″ and Reece is only 6′2″ 245 and look how he moves. They are very similar athletically it’s easy to see Aus if you look at Reece. They both play the same way. Catching running and moves. It’ll be a smooth transition IMO. Smoother than Reece going to FB….lol
May 25th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
But he will only be 24 years old when the season starts.
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So he was 22-23 playing college FB???
Damn!
May 25th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
NFL.com’s Gil Brandt thinks the Raiders would like to re-sign star cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, but ultimately they won’t pay the price he will be asking.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Anyone else saw DHBs interview on CSN? Did I truly hear him talk about what Camp says of him .,.i.e. that he is great????
Man, this kid must really have IT and just needs to bring it on Sundays. Something tells me this kid is going to breakout soon and in a big way.
Once he gets going there’s no stopping him …you’re talkin speed and power on the outside ..deadly
May 25th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
T’pin people keep laughing when I say it, calling me names and things. But I keep saying it when you have the talent this kid has and the work ethic they rarely ever fail. The only thing that will stop this kid is something beyond his control.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Anyone else saw DHBs interview on CSN? Did I truly hear him talk about what Camp says of him .,.i.e. that he is great????
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That, + $2 dollars, will get you a cup of coffee.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
T’pin do you have a link for that interview?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
If DHB can catch the ball in traffic, over the middle, and on the run then all that decoy talk means nothing. I agree priest/terrapin, DHB is as fast as a lightning bolt. But he needs to catch the ball. First and foremost, he needs to catch the ball.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
People call you names because you are a blind homer.
“Talent” he has? This is the NFL, everyone has talent. It’s just that some aren’t, and never have been as good as others, and never will be.
DHB was a nothing in college. DHB knocks were ran bad routes, dropped easy balls.
His knocks in the bigs are he runs bad routes, drops easy balls.
95% of players in the NFL work their azz off, all year long.
That’s your excuse, that gets you laughed at “he works hard”.
He’s a #7 pick who still doesn’t justify his slot if he was chosen as the #77 pick.
See Rashaun Woods.
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priesttj Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
T’pin people keep laughing when I say it, calling me names and things. But I keep saying it when you have the talent this kid has and the work ethic they rarely ever fail. The only thing that will stop this kid is something beyond his control.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Cambell said DHB is “great”? At what? Cuz he surely isnt talking about playing WR in the NFL. All this kid has is speed. Thats it. Thats all. He is not a football player. He is an athlete. He has done NOTHING to show anyone he will be great, or good or even avg. for that matter.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
DHB was a track star.
Ran fast.
Stuck a football uniform on him, and hoped he would be a star.
Instead you have a fast WR who cringes at the thought of being hit.
Which is why he drops balls.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Priest,go to CSNBA then go to the Raiders page and it is there.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Do you guys see him in practice on a regular basis?So,does the reason T.Owens drops so many balls is he cringes at being hit?Same with L.Murphy?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
IF JC really said that about DHB, then it’s worse than I thought.
Means either JC is a complete moron, and has no idea what the word great means, or it means he’s a complete company tool, who’s kissing azz to make Al feel better about DHB.
Let me give you a hint, JC.
When asked simply state “We’re excited to see what DHB is going to do this year” “DHB works really hard, and that hard work is going to pay off for him.”
Won’t come back and bite ya like the “he’s great” comments!
May 25th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
BTW,I’m not trying to compare DHB to Owens-no way,just wondering why he drops so many also.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
DHB seems like a nice kid, I hope he does turn out to be a good player, but if he really believes he is great,then hes dillusional
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Thanks Lefty12, no need in arguing with these guys they hate the kid but they can’t stop him. If what camp said is true it’ll show on Sunday.
Boy Allthingsraider! I never thought about he needs to catch the ball??? thanks for the info..
These guys are a joke!!!
Campbell I guess doesn’t know what hee’s talking about.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I don’t blame DHB entirely on his low expectations. The Raider PR blah, blah, blah was that he’s an excellent decoy and blocker.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Just for fun, think before you post.
T. Owens is also a game breaker.
T. Owens has set a single game record for completions.
T. Owens fights for the ball, every ball.
T. Owens is #5 in the ALL TIME reception list, and is the highest in receptions for active WR’s.
DHB is none of the above, and will never be any of the above.
Again, think first. Stupid comparison.
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lefty12 Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Do you guys see him in practice on a regular basis?So,does the reason T.Owens drops so many balls is he cringes at being hit?Same with L.Murphy?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
The PR about DHB being a good decoy was attempt at damage control, after he proved he couldn’t catch even the easiest balls in camp, and during games.
Became “well at least he’s a good decoy”, albeit he wasn’t.
As I recall seems some posters here (See TJ, and others) who also were reduced to that, rather quickly as I recall.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
DHB interview at Camps workout:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=hXWM2-S4FT4zUqm4dKJu6xbBZnzp2fdnX_62Om
There are more interview too of Camp, Murphy and Ford. I only watch Camp and DHB so far though.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Tony,maybe you should try reading before you post.See #199-a good 4 minutes before you tried to be such a smart arse.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Boy these posts are funny if anything. There mere utterance of DHB in here brings out the crows and the boo-birds ..hahaha
May 25th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Post #199 was a lame attempt to get your foot out of your mouth.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Boy these posts are funny if anything. There mere utterance of DHB in here brings out the crows and the boo-birds ..hahaha
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I bet it don’t help the ticket sellers either, hahaha
May 25th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
It seemed pretty obvious Campbell keeps telling him that so he will be more self confident.He needs to carry over what he does in practice to games is my guess.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I should correct that quote …he says Camp tells him how great he is …not that he is actually great if that makes a difference at all.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Hey,KK,find any Raider employees under your bed lately.We all know they are out to get you.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
What the hell else is Campbell supposed to say about a teammate?
May 25th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
listen as far as DHB goes I have veery little doubt about this kid he’s going through the same stuff most rec’s do coming into their own. This is no mystery to me I’ve seen it a thousand times. he just needed to do exactly what he said in this interview relax and play…………..period
He made some spectacular plays in college and he can made more of those in the pros it’s just a tough adjustment at that position for a lot of players not just him.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Like I said before …you heard it metioned of Routt, Huff and DMC by Jer in reference to them dominating practice or being poised for a breakout year a full year before it translated on Sundays.
Maybe DHB would be the same story. Jer made the same utterances of DHB in practices.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
KK,I realize that at times reality is something you have a difficult time grasping,but comparing a 3rd year WR to a potential future HOF is ridiculous.Maybe someday we will be able to compare the two.As Raider fans lets hope we can.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
lefty12 & T’pin the only thing that matters is what he does on the field, these guys can talk all they want words can’t stop him.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
DHB Doesnt avoid contact, he just has problems focusing on catching the ball…So the notions that he isnt tough or physical are incorrect…
I might be biased, but expect him to grow this year into a solid WR. He has the size, speed, work ethic and everything else work itself out
May 25th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Some people would rather see him fail so they can be right to criticise him and the owner……that’s their only objective in life.
DHB is a good kid who has a world of talent and soon enough he’ll exploit that talent on the field.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
The sad part is if he turns into a good but not great WR,some people on here who call themselves Raider fans will forever dislike the guy because he was drafted too high and/or instead of someone else they wanted.Hell,I was pissed when we picked him,I wanted an O or D lineman.But he is a Raider.He wears the Silver & Black.As long as he does,I will root for the guy and hope he becomes the best WR in the game.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
So it’s true what they said about you, Old Man?
You’ve gone completely bonkers?
JC says he’s “GREAT” and you AGREE??
Well? You agree or not?
If you say yes, you are a liar, and a fool.
If you say no, then you admit JC’s full of it, and just being a company shill.
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May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Thanks Lefty12, no need in arguing with these guys they hate the kid but they can’t stop him. If what camp said is true it’ll show on Sunday.
Boy Allthingsraider! I never thought about he needs to catch the ball??? thanks for the info..
These guys are a joke!!!
Campbell I guess doesn’t know what hee’s talking about.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
I don’t see DHB as gun-shy, per se. He’s played almost 2 full seasons and he’s still the worst WR on staff.
Ball skills and instincts are lacking I guess.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
LOL.
You said the below, LAST YEAR!
I think you even guaranteed DHB was going to light it up, LAST YEAR.
Remember? “great work ethic”? “great talent”? “Just needed that first year to settle in”?
That’s what happens when you get your age, Pops.
You forget what you already said.
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priesttj Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Some people would rather see him fail so they can be right to criticise him and the owner……that’s their only objective in life.
DHB is a good kid who has a world of talent and soon enough he’ll exploit that talent on the field.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
A lot of Al Davis’ “athletes” haven’t been able to play the game, for one reason or another.
-Rickey Dudley
May 25th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
??
So, JC told him he’s great, but NOT that he’s great?
Oh sure, that works.
Maybe he was talking about ping pong?
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TerrapinRaider Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I should correct that quote …he says Camp tells him how great he is …not that he is actually great if that makes a difference at all.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Eldridge Dickey!
May 25th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I know Lefty12 they this kid wont ever get the credit he deserves from amny even in the media because of something he can’t control, his draft position.
But as long as he plays to the best of his ability I think he’s going to be just fine. It is what it is….
May 25th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
The best thing he can do is forget the fans and the media and play, just as JC has done just play.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
And I think that is what Campbell is trying to get him to do.It’s too bad nobody gets to watch Raider practices,we might have a better idea about how he,and others for that matter,perform.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
The team just has too much potential. And when that potential starts to come together with the right coaching (queue HJ) you get dominant performance like vs SD or vs Denver where they couldn’t even stop the onslaught.
Get the Oline solidified for protection …DHB comes around and Ford continues to progress …I just dont know how you stop it. Just too many ways to kill you.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
You have no idea how the O-line will play. How the Secondary will play, Or if they will stop the run.
You have no idea if Chaz will play, you have no idea if DHB will contribute……nada.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Ive had a pretty good day on this blog so making comments about DHB is sure to throw my course off.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
T’pin I know man when you really look at this team if they can get all things going in the same direction. It’s going to be incredible. That running game with the all out speed at rec. It boggles the mind the potential we have offensively. Sure it wont happen every game but there are going to be some games when it just comes together and explodes all over the other team. The inconsistency will be because they are so incredibly young. I can’t wait ’til training camp.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Terrapin, you think Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England, Indy, New Orleans and co. are worried about the Raiders? Think their scouts are basicaly saying what you just did?
May 25th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
You weigh our entire franchise up against any team, owner vs. owner, gm vs. gm, hc vs. hc, qb vs. qb, right down the line, I don’t think we’re even in the top 20, let alone on Green Bay and Pittsburgh’s radar as SB contenders.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
You weigh our entire franchise up against any team, owner vs. owner, gm vs. gm, hc vs. hc, qb vs. qb, right down the line, I don’t think we’re even in the top 20, let alone on Green Bay and Pittsburgh’s radar as SB contenders.
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Actually we are when you consider we were given the #17 pick in the draft.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Im pretty sure teams don’t go into training camp worried about other teams. I think they go into training focusing on executing at 100% of their potential.
May 25th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
The #17 pick is based on last year’s results. We have a different head coach and we’re minus a backup QB responsible for at least 2 wins last year.
But assuming we even are in the prestigious top 17, do you think the Green Bays and Pittsburghs are concerned about the Raiders being a SB contender?
May 25th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Raider Reign, you’re saying the best teams in the league don’t consider which teams they might have to face in the SB? THey don’t make free agent moves anticipating the teams they’ll be playing in January? Absurd!
May 25th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
DHB is fast. He is so fast flames shoot out of his ass when he goes flying downfield. He is lightning bolt fast. He can run faster than a cat can lick its arse. Why he is so fast he should be a Olympian track star. But since he wears the Silver and Black, he has GOT to catch the ball. Nobody fears him, thats why half the time he isn’t even covered. But catch a pass or two early in the season and that will put an end to the ‘decoy’ status. Com’on DHB, the time has come come for you to be the great pick your were picked to be, JC says its so. Bring it home baby!
May 25th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
DHB was a number one draft pick two seasons ago, and we’re still wondering if he’s a player? Number one pick, dude.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I think everybody will agree that this is DHB’s make or break year – much like DMac’s coming out in year 3.
So what to do if DHB doesn’t come around? Cut him or reposition him to play CB? He’s got speed & size and should know what a route looks like. We know for the most part, when a ball comes near him it’s rarely caught. What more can you ask for in a CB? I’m hoping he catches on fire and proves all the naysayers wrong but only time will tell. I say rather than just cutting your losses, when all you have is lemons, make lemonade. Let’s just hope his work ethic pays dividends soon. AD won’t hang on to him forever.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Its about what happens on the field during the regular season and playoffs.
Preseason stories are nice…and its good to hear about things like the camp Seymour and JC are putting together.
But at the end of the day….its about wins and losses…I bet this is what Al Davis believes in too.
DHB deserves the criticism. He is not getting the job done. He’s a nice kid…great! He’s also paid a kings ransom…when players that don’t produce get big money, it robs the team of being able to retain those players that do produce.
Production is the end all for everything in football.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
DHB has never been great, on any level, unlike McFadden who was a great college player, so frankly our expectations should not be too high for the guy. Other factors have not derailed DHB like they did with McFadden in his first two years. DHB simply doesn’t have the talent and has never shown any talent, so he will never live up to top ten expectations and so he will need to restructure or be cut after this next year. We need to manage our expectations with DHB and HOPE he can at least become a serviceable NFL WR.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
JB Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I think everybody will agree that this is DHB’s make or break year – much like DMac’s coming out in year 3.
So what to do if DHB doesn’t come around? Cut him or reposition him to play CB? He’s got speed & size and should know what a route looks like.
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Thats actually not a bad idea….especially how everyone knows he flinches like a b!@tch right before he gets hit!!
Maybe he’ll like to be on the other end of the stick….u know???
I say this is the last chance he gets before we cut him.
If he don’t get it 3 years…he’s never gonna get it!
May 25th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Mike Brown?
PUUUUUUUKE!!!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Mike brown LOL AT Dakota and LA
May 25th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Watching the Lakers implode just breaks our hearts up here in Sac. Good luck with Mike Brown. I’m sure it will be like Phil/Kobe all over again.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Kobe will be sorry that he chased off Dr. Phil……….
May 25th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Mike Brown or not the Lakers will still be better than the Kings or Portland!
muhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa
May 25th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Al Davis believes in wins and losses. Sure. This is why he traded Jon Gruden when we had one of the best teams in the league.
I’m sure Al also dealt away Marcus Allen when he was the best 3rd down back not only in the league at that time, but arguably in NFL history, because he believes it’s all about wins and losses.
I’m sure the reason he’s about to let Asomugha walk is because no price is too high for wins and losses.
Yeah, wins and losses. All Al thinks about.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Yeah, no chance of the Kings besting the Lakers now, with Mike Brown at the helm.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
DHB is going to have a good season this year….
Print that…
May 25th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Dakota Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Mike Brown?
PUUUUUUUKE!!!!!
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lol..yeah I feel the same way too!
Well…the bright side of this is we now free up about 6-8 million for a roster spot!
1. CP3
2. D.Howard
3. Westbrook
4. Love
*Not in any specific order
But prefer CP3!
May 25th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
But prefer CP3!
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Sorry holmes, he is going to NYC…
May 25th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Dakota
Do you understand what exactly you’re talking when you say DHB has never shown any talent on any level? How can a player be rated by virtually every scouting service, never show any talent?? How did they rate him then? based on what??
Don’t say speed because there are 100’s of trck stars that didn’t get rated as higvh as he did nor did they get drafted. So what were the GM’s basing this on?
At least show some commmon knowledge of the process even if you do hate the guy. he was a 1st rnd pick. He wasn’t James Jett an UDFA…..the guy showed he could play and many agreed. Whether you guys like it or not.
May 25th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Thec, what do you think the opponents on our schedule are doing to prepare for DHB? Think they’re considering doubling him? Keeping one safety on him at all times?
May 25th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Well my dear Watson…..I am sorry to inform you but It was easier to know it than to explain why I know it.
He’s gonna be Laker!
May 25th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
JB Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I think everybody will agree that this is DHB’s make or break year – much like DMac’s coming out in year 3.
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It’s been said, but I just want to add, that there’s no comparison between DHB & DMac, based on resume.
May 25th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Thec, what do you think the opponents on our schedule are doing to prepare for DHB? Think they’re considering doubling him? Keeping one safety on him at all times?
MR, this is going to vary drastically from play to play. Considering the speed we have It is going to really be tough to double down on anyone…
When he steps up his game like I know he will then You can roll coverage towards him however, that would leave guys like schllens, ford, murphy, and moore in singles… Campbells reads will be equally important as he goes thru his progressions and quickly recognizes what they are trying to do to him is going to be tantamount….In short this is going to be a very dynamic offense…. the only Q mark I have is the rooks on the oline…
May 25th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
The Seymour trade was worth it. We haven’t seen this type of behavior or leadership in this organization for years. It’s almost un-Raider like. Or maybe we have just come to expect the mediocre. Either way, he is an exceptional addition to the team.
I like what he is bringing to the table. Feast on…
May 25th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Thec if you watch when DHB is on the field he draws doubles consistently. If you watch when the ball is snapped JC often looks deep first. He’s looking for the FS if he’s shading DHB and 9x’s out of 10 that’s what’s happening it leaves Murphy with a single he’ll either go to Murphy or check it down. He often pumps as if he’s going deep anyway then take underneath to Ford or HB or TE. That pump fake holds the safety giving the 2nd rec more room to run. He was exceptional with this in the SD game in SD. Get that game and watch JC keep them off balance and all due to them doubling DHB. That game was JC’s best game to that point he then followed it up with a gem in KC.
That’s why I have so much confidence in JC there were games where he played some damn good football. He’s just working with very young players who are still learning that is why he’s doing what he’s doing now to get on the same page. Even the first SD he used them with pump fakes and going short they’re scared to death of DHB. When they understand each other and he’s comfortable with DHB you’ll see him throw to him anyway because he will bust that zone but they have to get to that point confidence wise.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Quite frankly there is too much focus on DHB from the fans. Its about whoever the best players are playing.
Draft status shouldn’t matter.
Jacoby Ford is the best receiver on this team right now. Let Chaz, DHB and Murphy fight for the other positions
May 26th, 2011 at 12:16 am
So, thec, our opponents are worried about DHB?
May 26th, 2011 at 12:18 am
priest, DHB draws doubles? What games? I’ll spring for that NFL.com package where I can watch past games. I do recall some teams letting him run wide open, though.
May 26th, 2011 at 5:28 am
And when that potential starts to come together with the right coaching (queue HJ) you get dominant performance like vs SD or vs Denver where they couldn’t even stop the onslaught.
Get the Oline solidified for protection
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Funny you mention the SD and Denver games, were our offensive line stole the show and completely dominated, than go on to say the O-line needs to get solidified.
During the 4 games against those two division foes, we ran for over 950 yards (about 238 a game) and gave up a whole 5 sacks in 4 games.
I really don’t see how they could play any better.
May 26th, 2011 at 5:31 am
I hate the Lakers, and I don’t think Mike Brown is a good coach for them because of the style he coaches doesn’t fit the team.
But Mike Brown is probably the best available HC out there. Top 3 all-time winning %, NBA COY, took a Cleveland team to the Finals (how many pro sports teams in Cleveland go to championship series??), and was a multiple championship winner as an assistant in San Antonio. The guy is a proven winner, who has succeded everywhere he has went so far. Besides, I think Mike Brown can get the team to compete and at least win a game or two in the second round next year.
I was really hoping the Warriors would sign him!!!
May 26th, 2011 at 5:47 am
He often pumps as if he’s going deep anyway then take underneath to Ford or HB or TE. That pump fake holds the safety giving the 2nd rec more room to run. He was exceptional with this in the SD game in SD.
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That is JC’s go-to move, the step in the pocket with a big, exaggerated pump fake, than checking it down. I was saying it halfway through last season.
I am concerned that after a year of film, our AFC West opponents might pick up on that a little.
We’ll see.
May 26th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!
Morning vote: Is the season lost?
May 26th, 2011 at 6:02 am
DHB seemed to think that the team bonding stuff last year (like Cable’s bowling outing) was what helped the team gel and go 8-8.
May 26th, 2011 at 6:56 am
“Morning vote: Is the season lost?”
Yes
May 26th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Morning JFB, S&B666
I agree…that is why I only put $100 down on my season tix so far…
May 26th, 2011 at 7:07 am
No team is scared of DHB, but Pittsburgh, Green Bay, and any other team that you can name is scared of DMC, and will build their game plan around stopping him.
DHB has to have a good year to not be considered a bust, but there are other 1st round picks who busted that year, you know. DHB has twice as many TDs as Tyson Jackson has sacks . . . .
May 26th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Vegas odds say we wont have a season at all.
Greed and lawyers help me believe those odds.
Then you have lackeys like MR who put 100% of the blame on the owners, I don’t buy it. I think they are both to blame. It takes two to tango and the players got 60% of the revenue last year and still want more. Its hard to take their side when you have guys making 10 million a year.
May 26th, 2011 at 7:15 am
That would be messed up if we dont havea season…after June, well mid June if i care to watch the Finals in anything Basketball or Hockey (Lakers, Sharks, gone….) what do we do? I don’t watch baseball til the end…
May 26th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Yeah I agree baseball is just too slow. I hate basketball and with Tiger woods injured watching golf is not the same.
Maybe girls volleyball and cheer leading competitions will be my new sport of choice.
May 26th, 2011 at 7:55 am
priesttj,
Sorry I missed your response on DHB last night. Don’t get me wrong, I like DHB because he seems like a hard worker and he seems to care about his profession.
However, if a guy has never shown that he can be great I think it unwise that you hold out hope that somehow he will turn into a great player. He was nowhere near great in college, and based on what we have seen of him in the NFL he has shown little potential to be great. Our expectations were high for anyone drafted at #7 or #8, so of course he will never live up to those expectations, but at this point we just have to hope he can even become a slightly below average NFL WR because he isn’t even there yet. If you can’t catch you can’t catch. Period as you like to say.
You mentioned James Jett….well there is no indication whatsoever that DHB can even match his level of play in the NFL. At this point I would be estatic if DHB could play at Jett’s level.
May 26th, 2011 at 8:18 am
MIKE BROWN!
LOL!
May 26th, 2011 at 8:57 am
278.Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
May 26th, 2011 at 8:18 am
MIKE BROWN!
LOL!
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Laugh it up fuzz ball!
May 26th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Kobe traded to the Utah Jazz in exchange for Devin Harris & Raja Bell?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Kobe traded to the W’s in exchange for Monta Ellis & Charlie Bell?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Kobe traded to the L.A. Clippers in exchange for Randy Foye & Mo Williams?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Not going to happen…lol
May 26th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Kobe traded to the Sac Kings in exchange for Tyreke Evans & Beno Udrih?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Kobe traded to the womens Olympic curling team for one of those brick things that look like a tea pot.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Dakota
I never said DHB will be great I said he did show that he was very talented in college and at the combine as well as all his prodays. You don’t get rated as highly as he was without showing that. Now whether he will be great is another debate altogether.
I think he will be a lot better tha you do based on his college game film and what I’ve seen so far. His struggle aren’t foriegn to me as they are you. they’re pretty much consistent with a lot of WR’s that have dominated in this league.
Some of the top WR’s in the game right now struggled just as he is before they got to where they are now.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Kobe traded to the Dallas Mavs in exchange for Jason Kidd & Jason Terry?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Kobe traded to the Celtics in exchange for Shaq & Delonte West?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The trial for Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth on misdemeanor assault, scheduled for Thursday, was delayed until next week.
It’s getting hard to keep track of Haynesworth’s legal issues, but this is the road rage accusation, not the one where he allegedly groped a waitress.
Tom Jackson of the Washington Post told the judge in the case the two sides hoped to reach “an accord and satisfaction” before the next court date. Haynesworth is accused of punching a man during a traffic altercation.
All of the legal headlines will seemingly make it next to impossible for the Redskins to trade Haynesworth when the lockout ends.
-PFT
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go get’em AL !!!
May 26th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Can you imagine Fat Albert in a DT rotation with Seymour, Kelly & Henderson ???
Run Defense solved !
Desmond Bryant can play DE …
We don’t need to keep both Trevor Scott & Jarvis Moss. They are essentially the same player
re-sign Kirk Morrison & Sam Williams. then let Ricky Brown & Bruce Davis walk the plank
May 26th, 2011 at 9:30 am
break time over …
GO HEAT !!!
May 26th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I would prefer to keep Jarvis Moss over T Scott. Moss seems to be a natural edge rusher and man is he looonng. I can’t believe that kid didn’t work out in Denver!
I really like Des Bryants size and athletic ability he’s starting show some playmaking ability. L Houston and Des Bryant make this a very good Dline. Tommie Kelly is very underrated.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Oh my goodness, how many sacks have Moss gotten vs Scott? Not even close…you know football alright (sarcasm).
Jarvis Moss – 4.5 sacks in 4 years.
T. Scott – 13.5 sacks in 3 years
And you want to keep Moss?
May 26th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Another genius!!
Denver obviously didn’t use him as an edge rusher they used as a LB. I think it had a lot to do with how he was USED……uh hum!! Thanks for listening..
May 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I haven’t watched basketball since the magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas era. I tuned in to see what all the Lebron James hype was about. I don’t see it. Why and how is this guy compared to the greats?
He is in no way as fluid or smooth as Magic or Dr J, he lacks the leadership skills of Jordon. He appears clunky as he moves up and down the court and I seriously doubt he can shoot over 80% from the line.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Guys look at stats and draw too many conclusions anyone watching those two players rush the passer can see Moss is a much better edge rusher.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Good photograph of the new $600,000 Buford pracice feild.
Yeah, practice field. For a AA-sized school. Pissed off alot of people. The school was furloughing teachers but they got a shiny new practive field.
Now they are constructing two additional football arenas for the kids lower than high school to play in. Whatever BHS Coach Simpson wants – he gets. But he does have 7 state championships over the last 11 years.
I drove by this morning on my way to work to see if anyone was out early but no one was there.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:53 am
15.priesttj Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Great man get that kid up to snuff quick, as well as DMoore. Wiz IMO will be a quick study while Barksdale make take more time.
I really think Chekwa ia going to surprise some people, His play is more physical than people think and he can cover. That kid is no slouch and I’ve been a fan of DVD since I first saw the kid his game is very similar to Nnamdi’s. Some may see that as a criticism but I don’t the kid can mirror as well as anyone in this draftand has decent ball skills. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see both those kids getting a lot of playing time if we lose Nnamdi.
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Both those CB’s need to hit the weights hard and get stronger in the upper body and in the legs. Especially DVD!
May 26th, 2011 at 9:56 am
‘Sup fellas.
Vegas–tough break last night for Buster Posey. Hate to see that. Broken ankle and possible knee ligament damage.
The rookie of the year was a big catalyst for their championship season last year.
That was a good, clean play by that dude from Fla, IMO. Hard nosed baseball.
Just a violent collision. Unfortunate.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Chekwa is not nearly as lean as DVD. Chekwa could get stronger as every player coming into the pros could but he’s closer to what he’ll play at than DVD.
We’ll see when training camp starts but Chekwa may be more ready to help than DVD early.
May 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Uh…Trevor Scott plays the LB position too dude. I dont like to call people out on here but you deserve it. For all your claims of how well you know football, you dont know jack.
Here’s a quick Bio on J. Moss.
Drafted to be the passrushing DE for Denver in 2007 and 2008. Then switched to LB by Mike Nolan in 2009 because he couldnt do anything at the DE position the two previous years.
Jarvis Moss stats
DE 2007 – 6 games 1 sack 12 tackles
DE 2008 – 12 games 2.5 sacks 12 tackles
OLB (3-4D) 2009 – 7 games zip zip zip
DE 2010 – 1 sack
Trevor Scott
DE/LB in 3 years 90 tackles and 13.5 sacks.
29 tackles 4.5 sacks vs 90 tackles and 13.5 sacks. Anymore questions?
May 26th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Guys look at stats and draw too many conclusions anyone watching those two players rush the passer can see Moss is a much better edge rusher.
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hahahahahaha
Yeah, he’s so good he averages 1 sack per year for a former first rounder. Must have been those double teams he was getting. Dang, that must be why Elvis Drummervil is getting all the sacks. You’re a genius you know that.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Posey is OUT!
Too bad Giants fans….no repeat. That was a clean tough baseball play also.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:11 am
286.priesttj Says:
May 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Dakota
I never said DHB will be great I said he did show that he was very talented in college and at the combine as well as all his prodays. You don’t get rated as highly as he was without showing that. Now whether he will be great is another debate altogether.
I think he will be a lot better tha you do based on his college game film and what I’ve seen so far. His struggle aren’t foriegn to me as they are you. they’re pretty much consistent with a lot of WR’s that have dominated in this league.
Some of the top WR’s in the game right now struggled just as he is before they got to where they are now.
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I 100% hope you are right and I am wrong on this one Priest.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:13 am
So you think Trevor Scott is better than Moss based on his stats from Denver? I’ve watched Scott since he’s been here and he’s frustrating as an edge rusher. They used him as an elephant an he still couldn’t get it done. What I saw from Moss in two games was better than I’ve seen from Scott in all the years he’s been here.
Now maybe that has a little to do with Moss getting better or the players we have around him I don’t know. But as an edge rusher he is hands down better than what I’ve seen from Scott. Scott stays wired to the OT he has one move and no counter.
While Moss shows several moves and much better hands than Scott. It’s crazy to argue over a kid who’s had 13 sacks in 4 years as if he’s some helluva player. Scott is a fringe player at best………….what’s the argument about???
May 26th, 2011 at 10:20 am
130.aig-raiders Says:
May 25th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I saw Nate Solder’s tapes at the Sr. Bowl and dude got owned. He plays really high and didnt look all that promising to me.
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Agreed. Solder has alot of work to do. He plays too high and he plays soft IMO. He gets bull rushed way too easily. The Pats should reached with him and they should have taken DE/OLB Cameron Jordan.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:26 am
See this:
Coaches file brief, side with players
Some coaches across the league are facing a reduction in wages and benefits during the lockout, including those employed by the Buffalo Bills, who have suspended pension payments and cut wages for all employees while the lockout is in effect.
“These income reductions are occurring amid the burdens of mortgage payments, tuition, and other life costs that do not wait for the NFL to end its lockout,” the filing said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6589809
May 26th, 2011 at 10:29 am
what’s the argument about???
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The argument is about you dont know jack and should just shut the heck up.
You saw Moss in 2 games and what exactly did he show you in 2 games. How many times was he able to beat his man and get to the QB?
You dont find me talking up Scott as some great player do you? NO but he sure is a heck of a lot better than Moss so far. One guy is able to get to the QB and the other guy can’t. It’s as simple as that. As a former first rounder, Moss was given every opportunity to get playing time and he sucked so far. How hard is that to admit?
May 26th, 2011 at 10:32 am
DK,
Yeah Cameron Jordan was a steal and they passed on him. The Saints got a steal!!!!
May 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Kobe traded to the Raiders for: drumroll………..
http://www.kffl.com/images/media/16249.jpg
May 26th, 2011 at 10:36 am
MR traded to the psych ward for Charlie Manson…..
May 26th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Davy, Pittsburgh and Green Bay are worried about the Raiders being SB contenders due to McFadden?
May 26th, 2011 at 10:38 am
666, let’s say they just decide to throw all fans of any particular NFL football team into the psych ward, to reduce population. America votes on which fan base gets shipped off. What fanbase do you think would be the lucky winners?
May 26th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Jim Buss is da debil!
May 26th, 2011 at 10:42 am
If you threw fans into a psych ward it would not reduce the population.
By the way the lockout is the players fault……..waits for an angry rant from MR
May 26th, 2011 at 10:43 am
No Dakota I am the devil and I am here to do the devils work!
May 26th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Listen you little snot nosed kid, I LIKE MOSSS BETTER THAN TREVOR SCOTT, Based on what i saw from him. That is my personal opinion whether you like it or not. He has more of what i look for in a edge rusher…….
YOU LIKE TREVOR SCOTT it’s your personal opinion that he’s soo much better than Moss. Neither of them are what I call dominant players Moss has more of what I look for in an edger rusher Trevor Scott.
Whether you agree or not OK BOY!
May 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Yeah, not good with Buster Posey.
You would think this would initiate his move to 1st base, but we have a prized prospect in Brandon Belt slated over there as well.
Was a good clean play, not dirty at all, but I blame Schierholtz for the injury.
The guy caught the ball flat-footed and should have been able to get that ball in quicker so Posey would have had a chance to brace himself.
Schierholtz’s lackadasical effort and throw might have derailed a HOF career.
Way to go Nate.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 26th, 2011 at 10:36 am
MR traded to the psych ward for Charlie Manson…..
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Maybe Norman Bates, they are very similar…
Both live with their mom…
Both like to dress up in women’s clothing…
Both have crappy jobs…
May 26th, 2011 at 10:49 am
LMAO at 319
May 26th, 2011 at 10:50 am
These stupid little kids always come in here and want to beat their chest on some insignificant issue looking for an argument about nothing.
Ignorant fool I couldn’t care less about Trevor Scott he may not even make the team as far as I’m concerned and this ignoramous wants to spend twow hours arguing about him.
It doesn’t get morew childish in here sometimes i feel like in a preschool atmosphere.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:50 am
I would potentially side with Moss over Scott, only because Trevor is coming off knee surgery, but I wouldn’t be all that suprised if neither one made the team.
McClain, Wimbley and Groves are your starters. Ricky Brown, Sam Williams and Goethel are your backups, and ST guys.
And of course they could bring in a vet or undrafted guy as well to compete for that last LB gig.
May 26th, 2011 at 10:51 am
TJ the Clown, you can alway log-off?
May 26th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Listen Priest,
When you come on this blog pounding your chest as knowing more football than the rest of us, then make sure you back it up.
It seems to me that you’ve been exposed and can’t handle the truth based on your tantrums right now. To quote the great Priest aka resident blog football guru, YOU DONT KNOW JACK….Period!
May 26th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Yeah, Moss did have a lot of potential. If anyone can get Moss to play DE it is Mike Wauffle. This is his chance to make it. Also, how awesome would it be if Moss if he does do well, a former Broncos 1st rounder!
Always felt bad for Scott, did the switch from DE to OLB to DE hurt his chance at success? I mean did he train differently b/c of the change (body type.) Scott only made the switch to DE his senior year? I thought he was a college TE?
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