Camp Seymour, Day 2


Notes and quotes as relayed by correspondent Ben Beitzel of the Gwinnett Daily Post at a passing camp attended by Raiders’ players in the Atlanta area:

— No sign of wide receiver Chaz Schilens, but Javon Walker was running patterns against a Raiders defense in a series of 7-on-7 drills.

Rest easy. Walker isn’t being brought back. Walker was among 30 professional players brought in by Florida-based trainer Tom Shaw for a 40-minute session working with the Raiders. Other non-Raiders included Ike Taylor, James Farrior, Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis and Santonio Holmes.

Beitzel reports Raiders units were sharper than those from Shaw’s group on both sides of the ball and the most vocal defenders were Groves and Kamerion Wimbley.

— A hand count of Wednesday’s attendees numbered 32. Among those who weren’t seen included Schilens, defensive end Trevor Scott (out following ACL surgery last year) and cornerback Stanford Routt. Players who weren’t there Tuesday but attended Wednesday included defensive end Lemarr Houston, defensive tackle Desmond Bryant and linebacker Quentin Groves.

Rookie lineman Joe Barksdale was not with the team, but fourth-round pick Chimdi Chekwa was on the field.

Two players who were not in attendance after being there Tuesday were linebacker Rolando McClain and offensive guard/tackle Bruce Campbell.

— Rookie center Stefan Wisniewski is getting a head start. Incumbent center Samson Satele, like the other Raiders players not under contract, is not in Atlanta. Satele has a pending second-round tender that may or may not be applicable when the lockout ends.

“Some of the older guys got in contact with me,” Wisniewski said. “Obviously, we can’t talk to any coaches. They told me about the camp and I thought it would be a good idea to come down and start working with my teammates. It’s been great so far. We are working hard down here with the team and learning a lot.”

Wisniewski’s uncle, Steve Wisniewski, remains off-limits, according to Stefen.

Daniel Loper, the presumptive starter at left guard assuming Robert Gallery departs, was good-naturedly giving the rookie a hard time during his interview.

Wisniewski recognized “a slight risk of injury, but we aren’t going super hard. We are trying not to hurt each other out here. We are just out here working. Gus are smart about that . . . we are not under contract yet, so we are not covered by our team so it’s definitely a little bit risky.”

— Quarterback Jason Campbell was pleased with the 7-on-7 work.

“The main thing for us is just installing,” Campbell said. “You are trying to get the guys to hear it as much as possible before we leave this week so when the lockout ends it won’t take guys so long to catch on.”

As for the playbook volume, Campbell said, “We are running pretty much all our plays, trying to install them. For the guys hearing it for the first time, it’s a different language. They’re just trying to get used to it.”

— Running back Taiwan Jones, who had a metatarsal fracture and surgery late in his college season, continues to heal. He said he was more than 90 percent healed at the time of the draft (which didn’t prevent him from running a sub-4.3 40-yard dash time at his Pro Day).

“I’ve been taking some time to let my foot heal,” Jones said. “I am trying to get back in shape, but at the same time I’m getting a chance to meet the players and learn as much as I can from them.”

Jones said he is joining huddles to listen to play calls to speed up the learning process.

“Everyone’s been welcoming,” Jones said. “It’s been a good environment.”

— Although the Atlanta Falcons have been using the same Buford High football field following the Raiders, there are no plans for the two teams to work out together.

— Here’s a link to a photo of the Raiders running a play, courtesy of Rock Cartwright’s Twitter account.

— Media availability at the passing camp was scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday only.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • aig-raiders

    Uh…Trevor Scott plays the LB position too dude. I dont like to call people out on here but you deserve it. For all your claims of how well you know football, you dont know jack.

    Here’s a quick Bio on J. Moss.

    Drafted to be the passrushing DE for Denver in 2007 and 2008. Then switched to LB by Mike Nolan in 2009 because he couldnt do anything at the DE position the two previous years.

    Jarvis Moss stats
    DE 2007 – 6 games 1 sack 12 tackles
    DE 2008 – 12 games 2.5 sacks 12 tackles
    OLB (3-4D) 2009 – 7 games zip zip zip
    DE 2010 – 1 sack

    Trevor Scott
    DE/LB in 3 years 90 tackles and 13.5 sacks.

    29 tackles 4.5 sacks vs 90 tackles and 13.5 sacks. Anymore questions?

  • aig-raiders

    Guys look at stats and draw too many conclusions anyone watching those two players rush the passer can see Moss is a much better edge rusher.

    Yeah, he’s so good he averages 1 sack per year for a former first rounder. Must have been those double teams he was getting. Dang, that must be why Elvis Drummervil is getting all the sacks. You’re a genius you know that.

  • DKnight007

    Posey is OUT!

    Too bad Giants fans….no repeat. That was a clean tough baseball play also.

  • Dakota

    286.priesttj Says:
    May 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I never said DHB will be great I said he did show that he was very talented in college and at the combine as well as all his prodays. You don’t get rated as highly as he was without showing that. Now whether he will be great is another debate altogether.

    I think he will be a lot better tha you do based on his college game film and what I’ve seen so far. His struggle aren’t foriegn to me as they are you. they’re pretty much consistent with a lot of WR’s that have dominated in this league.

    Some of the top WR’s in the game right now struggled just as he is before they got to where they are now.

    I 100% hope you are right and I am wrong on this one Priest.

  • priesttj

    So you think Trevor Scott is better than Moss based on his stats from Denver? I’ve watched Scott since he’s been here and he’s frustrating as an edge rusher. They used him as an elephant an he still couldn’t get it done. What I saw from Moss in two games was better than I’ve seen from Scott in all the years he’s been here.

    Now maybe that has a little to do with Moss getting better or the players we have around him I don’t know. But as an edge rusher he is hands down better than what I’ve seen from Scott. Scott stays wired to the OT he has one move and no counter.

    While Moss shows several moves and much better hands than Scott. It’s crazy to argue over a kid who’s had 13 sacks in 4 years as if he’s some helluva player. Scott is a fringe player at best………….what’s the argument about???

  • DKnight007

    130.aig-raiders Says:
    May 25th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    I saw Nate Solder’s tapes at the Sr. Bowl and dude got owned. He plays really high and didnt look all that promising to me.

    Agreed. Solder has alot of work to do. He plays too high and he plays soft IMO. He gets bull rushed way too easily. The Pats should reached with him and they should have taken DE/OLB Cameron Jordan.

  • DutchRaider77

    See this:

    Coaches file brief, side with players

    Some coaches across the league are facing a reduction in wages and benefits during the lockout, including those employed by the Buffalo Bills, who have suspended pension payments and cut wages for all employees while the lockout is in effect.

    “These income reductions are occurring amid the burdens of mortgage payments, tuition, and other life costs that do not wait for the NFL to end its lockout,” the filing said.


  • aig-raiders

    what’s the argument about???
    The argument is about you dont know jack and should just shut the heck up.

    You saw Moss in 2 games and what exactly did he show you in 2 games. How many times was he able to beat his man and get to the QB?

    You dont find me talking up Scott as some great player do you? NO but he sure is a heck of a lot better than Moss so far. One guy is able to get to the QB and the other guy can’t. It’s as simple as that. As a former first rounder, Moss was given every opportunity to get playing time and he sucked so far. How hard is that to admit?

  • aig-raiders


    Yeah Cameron Jordan was a steal and they passed on him. The Saints got a steal!!!!

  • Kobe traded to the Raiders for: drumroll………..


  • Silverandblack666

    MR traded to the psych ward for Charlie Manson…..

  • Davy, Pittsburgh and Green Bay are worried about the Raiders being SB contenders due to McFadden?

  • 666, let’s say they just decide to throw all fans of any particular NFL football team into the psych ward, to reduce population. America votes on which fan base gets shipped off. What fanbase do you think would be the lucky winners?

  • Dakota

    Jim Buss is da debil!

  • Silverandblack666

    If you threw fans into a psych ward it would not reduce the population.

    By the way the lockout is the players fault……..waits for an angry rant from MR

  • Silverandblack666

    No Dakota I am the devil and I am here to do the devils work!

  • priesttj

    Listen you little snot nosed kid, I LIKE MOSSS BETTER THAN TREVOR SCOTT, Based on what i saw from him. That is my personal opinion whether you like it or not. He has more of what i look for in a edge rusher…….

    YOU LIKE TREVOR SCOTT it’s your personal opinion that he’s soo much better than Moss. Neither of them are what I call dominant players Moss has more of what I look for in an edger rusher Trevor Scott.

    Whether you agree or not OK BOY!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Yeah, not good with Buster Posey.

    You would think this would initiate his move to 1st base, but we have a prized prospect in Brandon Belt slated over there as well.

    Was a good clean play, not dirty at all, but I blame Schierholtz for the injury.

    The guy caught the ball flat-footed and should have been able to get that ball in quicker so Posey would have had a chance to brace himself.

    Schierholtz’s lackadasical effort and throw might have derailed a HOF career.

    Way to go Nate.

  • DutchRaider77

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    May 26th, 2011 at 10:36 am
    MR traded to the psych ward for Charlie Manson…..


    Maybe Norman Bates, they are very similar…
    Both live with their mom…
    Both like to dress up in women’s clothing…
    Both have crappy jobs…

  • Silverandblack666

    LMAO at 319

  • priesttj

    These stupid little kids always come in here and want to beat their chest on some insignificant issue looking for an argument about nothing.

    Ignorant fool I couldn’t care less about Trevor Scott he may not even make the team as far as I’m concerned and this ignoramous wants to spend twow hours arguing about him.

    It doesn’t get morew childish in here sometimes i feel like in a preschool atmosphere.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I would potentially side with Moss over Scott, only because Trevor is coming off knee surgery, but I wouldn’t be all that suprised if neither one made the team.

    McClain, Wimbley and Groves are your starters. Ricky Brown, Sam Williams and Goethel are your backups, and ST guys.

    And of course they could bring in a vet or undrafted guy as well to compete for that last LB gig.

  • TJ the Clown, you can alway log-off?

  • aig-raiders

    Listen Priest,

    When you come on this blog pounding your chest as knowing more football than the rest of us, then make sure you back it up.

    It seems to me that you’ve been exposed and can’t handle the truth based on your tantrums right now. To quote the great Priest aka resident blog football guru, YOU DONT KNOW JACK….Period!

  • DutchRaider77

    Yeah, Moss did have a lot of potential. If anyone can get Moss to play DE it is Mike Wauffle. This is his chance to make it. Also, how awesome would it be if Moss if he does do well, a former Broncos 1st rounder!

    Always felt bad for Scott, did the switch from DE to OLB to DE hurt his chance at success? I mean did he train differently b/c of the change (body type.) Scott only made the switch to DE his senior year? I thought he was a college TE?