Raiders taking on water


No media availability for the remainder of Camp Seymour (a big thank you to correspondent Ben Beitzel for keeping us in the loop) but from various Twitter accounts it appears things are going swimmingly for the Raiders at Competitive Edge Sports.

Today was a day for water workouts, and judging from some of the tweets, it was no day at the beach.

The following were relayed by quarterback Jason Campbell and wide receivers Nick Miller, Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy.

Murphy also tweeted a short video which shows players a few players, including Campbell and himself, looking exhausted.


There have already been reports of teams concerned about their training camp sites and looking at the possibility of having cap at their facilities rather than somewhere else. Many teams, including the 49ers, already have their training camps at the facility.

The Raiders have held their camp on the grounds of Redwood Middle School and been housed at the Napa Marriott since 1996.

As of now, the Raiders are moving forward as if camp will go off as planned in Napa, and there is no word of a deadline where they must let the Marriott know if they’re suddenly going to have a lot of rooms available during late July and early August.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Speaking of Al, still disturbed at his image at the last PC when hiring Hue.

    Just nasty seeing how he’s approaching hermit stage, what with the cheap bandage plastered on, and avoiding the dermatologist.
    Fingers were just creepy, yet he still doesn’t get help.

    Signs pointing towards someone losing it.

    Sad. Would rather he go out with some dignity.

  • No, I just find it ironic, that a lot of the Al Davis worshiper’s social and political philosophies are so antithetical to what the organization stands for, lol.

  • Twocents

    Hobs, please don’t tell me you can’t tell the difference between me and MR?

  • Hobs Gnarly

    Wasn’t talking bout you, man, not at all.
    Was glancing through the blog and just noticed MR’s tell-tale M.O.

  • TerrapinRaider

    One thing I think I know and granted I haven’t been paying a great deal of attention to today’s product because for a long time it has been garbage. It is getting better.

    I don’t think any player today is better than MJ. Its possible a player prior to MJ was better but not after. Kobe probably comes close to being as good. I watched Rose play vs the Heat and that boy is one helluva talent but he lacking size and that killer instict Jordan had (you don’t miss the FT and you don’t give up the ball at the end of the game and be passive). LBJ is just a freak – in a nice way.

  • Twocents

    Thank you Hobs, I know I don’t fit in here because I rarely post my opinions on football. I lurk to gain insights on others opinions.

    But I do have opinions on what ails America.

    When I hear someone post inane political propaganda, I can’t resist responding.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Anyway, today’s society has been brainwashed with Keysianan ecomonimcs …most colleges teach it. Colleges today are simply watered down, poor quality, manufacturers of use dribble.

    It has all come down to recitation. Pathetic.

  • TerrapinRaider

    “useless” dribble

  • Twocents

    Memorial Day, to honor our those who died in war. Let us extend that memory to the innocent men, women and children who are dying today as the result of an empire hell bent on ruling the world.

    Keep in mind that babies are being killed in your name.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    This place is like a MENSA meeting.

    If ANYONE likes sports here, do yourself a favor and check out the third period of the GAME 7.




  • priesttj

    T’pin I woulld agree with that assesment so far but I said it a long time ago that Kobe’s game is better than MJ’s offensively. And LBJ by the time he is done could in totality be every bit as good and better than MJ.

    If I were starting a team and I had a choice between MJ LBJ and Kobe it would take me all day to make up my mind but at the end of the day I would probably to LBJ.

    Mj was easily a better athlete than Magic but as a bbl player I’d take Magic. I doubt very many of you saw the game he played vs Philly in the finals as a rookie when he played all 5 positions and he jumped C at the start of the game. He beat an outstanding team as a rookie scored 42 pts. 18 rebs. and 13 asst. it was the greatest game I ever saw by a 20 year old rookie. No thing before or since has come close. he won an NBA championship as a rookie and was the focal point of the team in that game.

  • TerrapinRaider

    watching Patton in HD (damn this looks good)

  • priesttj

    I think MJ is a better leader than Kobe ever was and a better defender on a consistent basis but Kobe can flat out shoot he had range way beyond MJ. Mj’s game was below the FT line attacking the rim and short j’s.

  • priesttj

    That’s why political talk should be done on a political blog I stay away from politics for a reason…………..I rarely agree with any of it.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    What a hockey game!

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    What a hockey game!

    That was the best sporting event I’ve seen in years.

    To quote the announcer “It was a privilege to watch.”

    If you guys want to miss another HUGE sporting event,

    DON’T watch Barcelona vs Manchester United tomorrow.


  • priesttj

    I just wish they would get this lockout over yesterday, I’m starting to get nervous about the season. I want to see the new players…

  • Sweep The Leg.

    Re: Post 511


    Get bent, hippie.

  • lefty12

    If the ideas put forward in comment 358 were to come to fruition,the league would be ruined.Only someone who would like to see the end of the NFL could support them.Sorry for interrupting the political and basketball talk,but this is a football blog-the Oakland Raiders to be specific.

  • purvisman

    imaquaman Says:
    May 26th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    looks like the same old kansas city fans here acting like a raider fan .they infest this site like stink in san diego .there was a time when raider fans were like brothers they stuck together like family .it didnt matter if you were black ,white ,brown,those colors didnt exist only silver n black .there are true fans in here ,but there are a few who are trying to rott the raider nation from the inside ,you know who they are if you have read these blogs at any time.insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expect different results.like trying to reason with a 4 year old child.my raider brothers that stick up for the nation here you cant win they are not raider fans ,never have been ,and never will be .they are here for one thing ,to infect the true fans like a disease.i would love to see them at a game talking sh@t like they do here they would last about as long as bozworth did in seattle against bo jackson.talk is cheap ,see you at the games next year .talk crap then (or debate )id love to see that
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Wow, thank you, aqua! Well written;No. Erudite;No. Pissy;No. Heartfelt and true? Yesss. Post of this year, easy. You got a fan, Aquaman!

  • lefty12

    Sorry,I meant 458.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    I agree Priest.

    The irony for all of us Raider fans is we are actually trying to build off of our first competitive season in about a DECADE.

    I think starting June 1st, we as Raider fans need to voice our dissatisfaction.

    One way would be to stop visiting this and other NFL web sites.

    If you don’t think that would make a difference listen to Goodell’s latest comments:

    Meanwhile, the fans are speaking.

    “You see that in our various metrics that we have, whether they are ratings, or traffic on NFL.com,” Goodell said. “We see that. And that is a reflection of the uncertainty and the frustration of our fans. And we all understand that. That is why we think it needs to get resolved. There are also financial consequences of that. That is, clearly, if we’re not successful, that’s clearly to come.”

    If they are paying attention to web traffic at NFL.COM, then it only stands to reason they are also paying close attention to individual team traffic.

    The Raiders can not afford a watered down NFL season.

    As difficult as it might be for some posters in here, I think we should send the NFL a clear message.


    The RAIDERS cannot afford a shortened season.

  • priesttj

    Lefty12 I think you meant #458

  • priesttj

    Doc! yeah I did hear him say that live, I said months ago that I would turn off NFLN until they ended the disagreement. sites such as this one really don’t help or hurt the NFL itself. It’s their NFL associtaed sites NFL.com, team sites and gear and tickets that hurt them. Sure they advertise here like anyone else but they do that on any sports site. Just don’t visit the NFL run sites and things of that sort. Definitely do not watch NFLN or team sites and you’ll speak loud and clear.

  • lefty12

    Nothing can get resolved when the players REFUSE to negotiate.I support the players to a certain extent,but they have to get back to the negotiating table.Doing all their fighting in courts won’t help solve anything.Things need to be decided at the negotiating table.If the players aren’t careful,they will destroy the league thereby killing the goose that lays their golden eggs.


    Saw some great players in the ABA.

    Can remember going to Net games when they played in a freaking tent on Long Island.

    Saw the Doctor when he played for the Virginia Squires.

    The Hawk with the Pittsburgh Condors.

    There were some phenomenal ABA players besides Erving that played very well in the NBA even though they were on the downside of their career by then.

    George Gervin was among the best pure scorers I have ever seen. Yeah, the Ice Man had the patented ‘finger roll’ around the hoop – but that outside shot was absolute money. Cat made a 30 footer look like a layup.

    David Thompson was electrifying. The ‘skywalker’ was a highlight reel.

    The Kentucky Colonels were loaded. Would have fared well against the NBA.

    Erving definitely carried the Nets, but there were some other pretty good players on those teams. Laverne Tart, Billy ‘the whopper’ Paultz, Super John Williamson.

    Man those ABA games were a lot of fun. Showcase for many extremely talented players that for one reason or another weren’t in the NBA. The red white and blue ball. And most importantly – the 3 pt shot. Many younger hoop fans don’t even realize the ABA started the 3 pt shot.

    The wide open passing offenses of the AFL helped revolutionize pro-football and the ABA should also get credit for helping shape today’s NBA.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    If starting on June 1st, ALL NFL web traffic dramatically FELL OFF THE CLIFF – both sides would BE FORCED to pay attention.

  • lefty12

    Dr.,do you actually think either side cares about the fans?I don’t.Each side only cares about the benjamin’s and how much of it they are going to get,fans be damned.

  • priesttj


    I’m starting to think that this is the beginning of the end of the NFL as we’ve known it if they don’t get this resolved relatively soon. Some negative things are going to happen that no one is anticipating.

    The players just don’t know how good they have it and neither do the owners. It’s a lot better than any alternative but as we say you don’t miss your water until the well runs dry.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Priest, What I’m suggesting is we should boycott THIS WEBSITE starting June 1st.

    If the traffic on this and other sites like this saw A DRAMATIC FALL OFF, both sides would be forced to negotiate.

    As it stands now, both sides KNOW we will come running when ever they decide to tee it up.

    Unfortunately for the Raider’s, it might set us back a few YEARS.

    Why couldn’t the lock out have happened during the Kiffin era?

    I say we voice our objections STARTING JUNE 1st.

    We should ALL take the SUMMER OFF.

  • priesttj

    Greed and selfishness has ruining many great org’s, the NFL is not immune to such disasters.

  • priesttj

    If we could get that done I’m all for it. It’s the only way we have a voice is lock them out the same wya they’ve done us (fans).

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    The Raiders can’t afford a shortened season.

  • priesttj

    Lefty12 I have to agree with Doc here. Fans just have no idea how much power they have if they organize.

    After all it’s OUR money they’re arguing over…

  • Sweep The Leg.

    I like the idea of a boycott of this site, specifically if it includes RMR and Koolkell.

  • lefty12

    I’m not a legal expert but what is to stop the owners from telling the players to feck off and just implement their own set of rules-in other words,dissolve the league as it is now,free all the current players and start from scratch,and call themselves The Football League of America or something like that.The players dissolved the union so why must the owners negotiate at all-just say these are the rules,if you want to play this is the way it is going to be.

  • priesttj

    But to quite honest to actually do this Boycott takes a ton of organization you cannot do it in a couple of days it has to be discussed for as much as a month in advance and geared up for a certain day. That way the majority is on board.

  • priesttj

    That’s the kind of thing Lefty12 tha I’m talking about. The owners could decide tomorrow to dissolve and become separate business’s and form some coalition. Change the rules and they drive salaries down change the game entirely.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    The NFL has already noticed the ratings drop off from the draft.

    They are paying attention to the website metrics.

    If fans are in here everyday during the lockout, we are telling both sides in no uncertain terms, we will be back no matter when.

    Remember how damaging the last MLB stoppage was?

    If I thought it would anyway benefit the Raiders, I would not be losing any sleep.

    For veteran teams like NE and GB, they WILL HAVE A LEG UP.

    In my opinion, this will kill the Raiders.

  • lefty12

    Boycotting is a great idea,but it won’t work.Too many wouldn’t go along.Besides,as you said,boycotting a site like this blog wouldn’t do squat.However,if you could get one for all NFL sponsored sites and the NFL Network,it might wake some of these rich,spoiled ba$tards up.The problem is it wouldn’t affect the players and they are the ones who are refusing to negotiate.

  • lefty12

    What is really needed is for the judicial system to say this isn’t our problem,we won’t even listen to any arguments-if you want this settled-negotiate a settlement.Force both sides to the table.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Make no mistake,


  • lefty12

    The only one who would be affected if this site was boycotted would be Jerry,and possibly Jon Becker.Although it kind of looks as if Jerry is already boycotting it.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Like you guys have both stated,

    It is all about the Benjamins.


    Advertising dollars all summer.

    If the site gets less hits they will notice.

    If you don’t think so re read Goodell’s comments.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Less interest in the NFL is LEVERAGE.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    There is nothing going on anyway,

    SO WHY BE HERE?????

  • priesttj

    That would take maybe as much a year Lefty12 they have no stake in this fight that would amke them expidite this process. Other than the games themselves which is to say they’re fans.

    But their calendars are full, moving things so the fans can watch games isn’t a priority. If this stays in the courts it’s doomsday.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    The web traffic on ALL NFL sites is down.

    We as Raider fans should make our voice heard.

  • priesttj

    I agree Doc we could all stop tonite but there are sooo many who aren’t even in here to agree.

    Bring this up over the next week on a consistent basis and it might gain some steam.


    I’m not concerned about the lockout having any lasting negative effects on the NFL.

    Football is just way too popular for the fans to stay away for any extended period once the lockout is over with.

    Even if the 2011 season is canceled (which imo has 0 percent chance of happening), this thing will eventually get settled and the fans will return when the NFL resumes. It’ll be business as usual.

    What concerns me, is that the lockout figures to hurt the Raids more than most teams.

    Teams that are changing coaches, implementing new systems and in the process of overhauling their rosters figure to be more damaged than teams with established coaching staffs and more stable rosters.

    Lockout figures to benefit teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens.

    Hope these fools can manage to come to an agreement soon.

    Really looking forward to some Raider football.