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Seymour’s play must equal ability to lead

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, May 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Richard Seymour was by all accounts the dominant figure during the passing camp he helped organize this week.

He urged his teammates with an e-mail talking about all the hard work it would take for the Raiders to be winners this year. In lieu of a coach, Seymour spoke to the team as the authoritative figure in the absence of Hue Jackson or the coaching staff. His camp, with help from Competitive Edge Sports in the Atlanta area, appeared to match or exceed anything done by any other team during the lockout.

Seymour has been the big man in the Raiders’ locker room since he arrived by trade from the New England Patriots. Coaches respect him, young players look up to him. He has a championship pedigree and an aura to match.

When it comes to presence and professionalism off the field, the Raiders could hardly ask for more.

On the field, however the Raiders will need more than they’ve gotten in the 29 games Seymour has been a Raider.

Given his age (he’ll be 32 in October) and the amount of tread on the tires from 11 seasons as a defensive lineman, the Raiders wisely committed to only two years on Seymour’s contract extension. The fact that he accepted it demonstrates Seymour understands he’s nearing the end of the line.

What the Raiders need is what they got from Rod Woodson _ at least one last glorious season or two before heading off into retirement and then a possible induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

The voting for the HOF is always trick but Seymour’s three Super Bowl rings, six Pro Bowls and reputation could serve him well. Finishing by helping lead the Raiders back into the post season would add to his legacy.

The question is whether Seymour is up to it. There have been times when Seymour has given the Raiders their most dominant defensive line play since the prime of Howie Long, a player similar in terms of strength and versatility.

But there have also been stretches where Seymour has blended in with a defense that has had way too many games of mediocrity or worse.

The season-opener in 2009 against San Diego was Seymour at his best, blowing up offensive linemen and blocking schemes, registering two sacks and being a factor on almost every play. Later in the season, it was the same thing in a win over Philadelphia. He had two sacks against Donovan McNabb that day _ and those four sacks represented his entire season total.

Sacks are only a part of his game, but the Raiders were weak against the run all season despite the ripple effect Seymour’s presence should bring.

Last season, moved inside to the three technique, Seymour had the best stretch of play by a defensive lineman since the Raiders returned to Oakland in 1995, particularly during a three-game win streak that put Oakland at 5-4 going into its bye week. At the time I wrote Seymour was a legitimate defensive player of the year candidate.

And then . . .

As much as I enjoyed Seymour’s decking of Ben Roethlisberger from the perspective of a father of a teenaged daughter, it happened at a time when the Raiders were getting pushed around in a 35-3 loss to the Steelers. In his last five games, Seymour never had more than three tackles in a game and exactly one sack. He missed the last two games with a hamstring injury.

When players voted for the winner of the Eric Turner award as the defensive MVP, the winner wasn’t Seymour, but fellow defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.

Much of Kelly’s success can probably be attributed to the man he calls “Big Rich.” Seymour helped prod Kelly into getting in better shape and by example demonstrated what it was like to be a pro. It would be hard to overstate his effect on young linemen such as Matt Shaughnessy and Lamarr Houston.

But make no mistake, the Raiders didn’t extend Seymour two years and $28.5 million in guaranteed money to be a coach on the field. They need those last two years to be Seymour at his dominant best as often as possible as they attempt to eliminate the periods of defensive inconsistency which have plagued them since 2003.

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  • priesttj

    I get cha’ I just ignore it and I’vs added KK to the list that I ignore along with StankyBrown they are all the same they come in here for the exact same reason hate on Mr Davis and argue with posters.

    I see you had an historic day, great 4 u bro. I’m jealous!!

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    504, Al Davis doesn’t make that much money. It’s been reported several times he’s going broke. So if it’s Al’s money we’re supposedly jealous of, there’s 31 other owners we’re even more jealous of, according to your logic.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Hayez, you have a “hot babe” with you and you decided to come here? What did you do, tell her, “I’ll be right back”, run upstairs, turn on your laptop, and type as quietly as possible? Of course not. Your blow up doll wouldn’t hear you anyway.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    May 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    MMMM-mmmm!!!

    I had a big ol’ porterhouse…medium rare…4 big ol’ spice-buttered shrimp…excellent rice smothered in grilled peppers…a number of excellent ice-cold cervezas…and a few hits o’ Patron Silver. Dessert yet to come! What a great day. AND…I’m a Raiders fan!

    …………………

    You didn’t mention the “babe” this time. Did you just forget that small detail? Did she leave? Did you already let the air out of her?

  • HayesDaze37

    Actually…she’s making me a late night dessert. You know, something other than cheezy-poofs.

    And…I can come and go here at me own leisure…I don’t need mommy’s permission or anything!

    Glad to share me good time with you, MR…me thinks you wouldn’t know what one was without it.

    Glad I stopped by…I shall continue my great evening now.

    Good evening, BHP and other fans!

    It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Ohhh…chocolate-covered, yeah it is!

  • priesttj

    easy HD37!!

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Ha ha ha! A dessert. That’s what a woman would say! “He’s making me dessert.” Men don’t brag about that. You know we only want to know one thing, Hayes. Not whether or not she made you dessert. lol. I can tell right now, if you really do have a woman with you, she’s your friend. You two are going to have dessert and watch a movie. Then she’s going to go to another guy’s house to get satisfied. Of course, this is assuming there is a woman there.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    May 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Ohhh…chocolate-covered, yeah it is!

    …………………

    http://bit.ly/lj0sgI

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    “chocolate covered”. wow.

    Page saved.

  • Nnamdi21

    priesttj Says:
    May 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
    None but since you’re asking what position did YOIU play??

    ================

    QB, FS, WR

  • Nnamdi21

    How sick is it when MR is on here as Dan Land AND Raider? *shudder* Creeeepeeee!

  • Just Fire Baby

    How come with all the bloggers draft insight on here, mixed with national media and Jerry, I just learned that this Chimdi Chekwa guy severely dislocated his wrist in his bowl game, and had to have surgery and pins inserted a few months before the draft.

    Read that he was expected to be a 2nd rounder, but said injury bumped him down a few rounds.

    Hope it is not a potentially lingering type thing.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    I remember that being mentioned in one of the writeups here.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Does Chekwa have a lot of tattoos ?

  • Just Fire Baby

    He’s got an accounting degree, so I am going to guess no on the tattoo’s.

  • Davy Jones

    Q: Who compared Jamarcus Russell to John Elway predraft?

    A: MR/RAIDER/Dan Land/Gust’s favorite man-crush, Jon Gruden!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Adios preppie Tressel! The lying cheater gets his due…

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Davy Jones Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Q: Who compared Jamarcus Russell to John Elway predraft?

    A: MR/RAIDER/Dan Land/Gust’s favorite man-crush, Jon Gruden!
    _______________________________________________________

    Davy Jones…

    ahhh, so MR is Al Davis????

  • big oak boy

    so if we get T.O. and Steve smith for cheap would u guys be happy or would it be a lot of hate trade fragile chaz and a 5th 2013 pick and that should do and if not T.O. than Plaxico Burress but two vets would be a great thing one on the field at a time to preserve the legs and get all these old guys have left if we cant do something like this we can give up our sb prayers

  • Silverandblack666

    MR is not smart enough to be Al Davis I think he is actually Andy Dick.

  • Dakota

    Hope everyone had a great weekend!

  • Buckeyeraider

    Good morning fellas.

    Hope everybody had a nice holiday weekend.

    BSJ-

    You go ahead and enjoy your cheep giggles and thrills now. We’ll see who has the last laugh.

    When a tanned and rested, former OSU asst and Ohio native Urban Meyer is stalking the sideline in Columbus a lil over a year from now.

    You Meeeeeeeshigan fans will look back to your lost decade vs The Vest as the good ol days. lol.

  • big oak boy

    cuz if T.O goes to SD we are in trouble T.O and V.jax yikes

  • Dakota

    Now that all the cheaters like Mich, OSU and USC have been exposed the rise of Notre Dame shall begin again!

  • Buckeyeraider

    Dakota,

    What, you didn’t heed the good Dr’s call to boycott Jerry Mac’s here blog?

  • Dakota

    Buckeyeraider,

    I must have missed that….what happened?

  • Silverandblack666

    What about these athletes that graduate from the SEC and can barely read?

    When are we going to see some of those schools get busted?

  • Buckeyeraider

    Dakota,

    I was scrolling through the previous thread, and the good Dr. and several others were urging a boycott of this site and all other NFL media as a fan backlash against the current labor standoff.

    Your BFF assured everyone, at least he wouldn’t be back after June 1.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Buckeyeraider Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 8:11 am

    You go ahead and enjoy your cheep giggles and thrills now. We’ll see who has the last laugh.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Nah, I’ll get the last laugh when you forfeit every 2010 victory.

    BTW Fakota, offseason practices that went over time limits is no way similar to:

    Covering up major NCAA violations and knowingly fielding ineligible players for a whole season. Plus Pryor is now getting caught with possessing 3+ cars he did not pay for.

    Sh!thole state, sh!thole program.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Next OSU coach will be that pillar of Suckeye integrity: Art Schlichter.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Trade Jon Condo for Cole Ford!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Trade DMAC for Steve Howe!

  • bcz24

    What the hell is boycotting this site going to do to the NFL labor issue? NOTHING. The owners are prepared to cancel real games with real income, and someone actually thinks the give a shiz about a website where a few fans blog?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Where is Mustafa when you need him?

  • Dakota

    278.Buckeyeraider Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 8:47 am
    Dakota,

    I was scrolling through the previous thread, and the good Dr. and several others were urging a boycott of this site and all other NFL media as a fan backlash against the current labor standoff.

    Your BFF assured everyone, at least he wouldn’t be back after June 1.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Poor mental midgets….yeah, hurting Jerry McDonald and his paper will really put the pressure on the NFL and the players to resolve their labor issues lol.

    I hope the sad little creature has fun commenting on a baking blog or whatever!

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Wow I didn’t know Steve Howe is dead. RIP.

    If we boycott the blog, JMac will just get more furlough time. I would, however, get more work done.

  • aig-raiders

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Buckeyeraider Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 8:11 am

    You go ahead and enjoy your cheep giggles and thrills now. We’ll see who has the last laugh.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Nah, I’ll get the last laugh when you forfeit every 2010 victory.

    BTW Fakota, offseason practices that went over time limits is no way similar to:

    Covering up major NCAA violations and knowingly fielding ineligible players for a whole season. Plus Pryor is now getting caught with possessing 3+ cars he did not pay for.

    Sh!thole state, sh!thole program.
    ————————-
    Too funny. Feel sorry for Buckeye fans today. Holy Shcyttttt. Will they have to forfeit titles now?

  • aig-raiders

    boycotting this blog would put Jerry out of job and I doubt would hurt the NFL owners in any way.

  • http://www.jerryisatwit.com MistaBrown

    Nobody is as astute on whiffing as you tj so I guess that makes you the blog expert on “whiffing”.

    ______

    Priesttj Says:
    May 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Mayock never admit Quinn because that weakens his case against Russell. I’ll give him credit he called Russell dismissive attitude towards dedication to the game but he totally whiffed on Quinn.

  • http://www.jerryisatwit.com MistaBrown

    pres purp lips has put a record 44 mil on food stamps I don’t see the harm in 1 more.
    ____

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    May 31st, 2011 at 9:08 am

    boycotting this blog would put Jerry out of job and I doubt would hurt the NFL owners in any way.

  • Buckeyeraider

    BSJ,

    I don’t know that some stupid players trading their personal property and awards for tatoos is a MAJOR violation. Shows how damn dumb they are, though.SMH.
    It’s not like the prized recruit’s family was living in a free beach house.

    This is defenitely a case of the coverup being worse than the crime. For Tressel not to immediately turn over any evidence of wrongdoing to the AD and compliance office is inexcusable. Incredible lack of judgement.

    That is why he is no longer the Head Coach. I think it shows what happens when you pull back the facade of amatuer athletics and shine a spotlight on the upturned rock…you’ll find what a cesspool big time college football really is.

    Surely, you’re not naive enough to think this crap only goes on at USC and OSU. They’re just the latest two big fish to get caught.

    But make no mistake. They will pay the price..do the time for their crimes..and return to curb stomp the Wolverines on an annual basis. Fair and square.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Seymour represents our first rounder this year and I just don’t know how much more of an impact anyone we chose at 17 would have in that department than he would

    ***

    ET # 101,

    I’ve heard this many times and I still don’t understand how it makes any sense. Jerry Mac just described what we’ve been getting from Seymour on the field in his article above and it ain’t much. A guy like Seymour might be worth 2-years $30+ million to a team on the verge of making some noise in the playoffs. The Oakland Raiders are not that team. Run Defense is trash. Passing game is trash. Yet another Head Coach. You’ve got asst coaches selling tickets. 4 new starters on the O-Line and Asomugha & Huff likely leaving the secondary

    Call me crazy, but I’d rather have a rookie that might give you 12 years, especially if they install a rookie cap or some sort of wage scale. Nate Solder was the PATRIOTS 1st rounder – not ours.

    CB’s Prince Amukamara & Jimmy Smith would have been nice if #21 can’t be retained at the right price.

    DT Phil Taylor might be a beastly run stuffer, especially with Mike Waufle coaching him up.

    WR Jonathan Baldwin would have eased the burden of force feeding fellow 1st rounder DHBust.

    Feel free to throw Al’s track record (no pun intended) of first rounders at me, but if Hue Jackson had any say in a Top 20 draft choice and he’s the real deal, you gotta assume that pick wouldn’t be a bust

  • RaiderRockstar

    boycotting this blog would put Jerry out of job

    ***

    AIG,

    Jerry Mac is untouchable

    better yet … irreplaceable!

    if the newspaper fired him, they’d become the Detroit Lions post Barry Sanders and he’d go on to work for the New York Times

  • RaiderDebo

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15182382/decision-to-make-beck-new-skins-qb-a-baffling-one/rss?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cbssportsline%2FPetePrisco_columns+%28Pete+
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    This is the kind of bullschitt I can’t stand! Had to suffer through it here with Cable/Tollner/Whackitt/Scabs. Glad Al finally woke up, but losing your #1 overall pick was a big price to pay. Poor JR.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I just learned that this Chimdi Chekwa guy severely dislocated his wrist in his bowl game, and had to have surgery and pins inserted a few months before the draft.

    ***

    thanks for the info, JFB

    maybe he won’t contribute much this year, but he’ll turn out to be a late rounder gym the next 3 years (like Michael Bush)

    I can see him stepping up when CJ37 (Fargas) leaves town next offseason

  • http://www.jerryisatwit.com MistaBrown

    Poor JR.

    LMFAO

  • RAIDERMAN99

    With the frequency Jerry posts, it’s possible he’s boycotting the blog.

  • priesttj

    RRS

    If you can’t see the valus in Richard Seymour then IMO it’s just flat out ignorance on your part. And Jerry made no indication that his impact on the field wasn’t much. I think his impact on the field was very evident but if you need Jerry to tell what it was then I’m obviously wasting this post on you.

    Does Jerry also tell you what to do with your life and if you’ve been a success or failure? Does Jerry always direct your opinion?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Had to suffer through it here with Cable/Tollner/Whackitt/Scabs. Glad Al finally woke up, but losing your #1 overall pick was a big price to pay. Poor JR.

    ***

    Paul Hackett = coach since 1970
    Ted Tollner = coach since 1968
    Tom Cable = coach since 1990
    Scabs = ???

    JaWalrus = 3 years in the NFL. 7 wins. biggest bust in NFL history

    Print That!

  • http://www.jerryisatwit.com MistaBrown

    tj the “WHIFFER”, good morning!