How much will Bresnahan blitz?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 31st, 2011 at 1:18 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Since there are no actual players to coach, one imagines Raiders defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan poring over game film, devising schemes and looking for the best way to stop the run and bring pressure.
Departed defensive coordinator John Marshall, like most Raiders defensive coordinators over the years, was taken to task by a fan base that felt he too often played it safe. Al Davis has long favored a natural pass rush, mostly from a 4-3 alignment although the Raiders have flourished in a 3-4 in some of their glory years. He’s not against blitzing _ Davis is fine with it as long as it works _ but any coach who dials up a blitz that results in a big offensive play will hear about it.
Anyone hoping to see Bresnahan dial up a series of exotic blitzes is going to be disappointed. Marshall, in terms of pressure, was a blitzing maniac when compared to Raiders teams dating back nearly 30 years.
Last season, the Raiders had 47 sacks, the most since the 1990 Raiders had 48. That team had exactly one sack from a defensive back _ cornerback Terry McDaniel.
While the Raiders are justifiably proud of the fact that five down linemen had five or more sacks (team leader Kamerion Wimbley’s nine sacks came with his hand down as a nickel rusher at end), they tied for second in the league in sacks along with Green Bay and San Diego (one behind Pittsburgh) in large part due to the eight sacks registered by starting safeties Michael Huff and Tyvon Branch, who had four each.
Getting one defensive back to four sacks is remarkable in that doing back to 1982, when profootballreference.com begins recording individual sack numbers, only one time has a Raider defnsive back ever had more than four. Strong safety Stacey Toran had six sacks in 1986 when the Raiders had 63.
Only one time since then has a defensive back had three sacks, when Albert Lewis had three in 1996. The 2004 Raiders, coached by Bresnahan, had 4.5 sacks from defensive backs, led by Charles Woodson’s 2.5 (with one each by Nnamdi Asomugha and Jarrod Cooper).
Then again, only one time in the last 29 years have the Raiders failed to record a single sack by the secondary. It was 2002, the Raiders had 43 sacks and won the AFC title, and Bresnahan was the defensive coordinator.
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May 31st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
First
May 31st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Priest, I missed your answer…why did the offensive coaching experts in Alameda want Grads to start in place of Campbell last year? What was Campbell doing to disappoint Coach Jackson? Why should I hope those shortcomings are fixed?
May 31st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Okay. You guys convinced me. Screw June 1st.
Lets do something else as a protest.
Lets make it NEXT POST.
Just for fun let’s see who can go the longest without posting after the next post.
I know some of you can’t go one day.
May 31st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
so if Bresnahan wants to keep his job there will be no blitzing next year.
This is exactly why 80 year old men are not allowed to run a corporation.
May 31st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Bo you don’t know that, Carson Palmer didn’t do a thing under Hackett. When he got fired Palmer won the Heisman.
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Thank you. Whackit belonged with the JFB-types, short on talent. Guys like Gannon, Garcia, Pennington and Grads had success with him. Make the game all about anticipation since they had noodle arms. He had no clue how to handle studs like Palmer and JR. Al never should have let that guy get near JR.
May 31st, 2011 at 1:56 pm
“He had no clue how to handle studs like Palmer and JR”
Did you just call Jamarcus Russell a stud?
I always thought you were a bit slow RaiderDebbie but damn this takes the cake!
May 31st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
In 2000, when Joe Montana was giving his Hall of Fame Enshrinement speech, he made a note to thank all that helped him in his historical career: “Paul, if anyone knows Paul Hackett, a workaholic. Work you to death and prepare you to death so that when you got in the game you didn’t say ‘God, I didn’t know about that.’”-Joe Montana
Another bit from Montana, “Over the years I’ve been fortunate to have had some great individual coaches, and Paul is one of the best,” Montana said to the St. Petersburg times (2005). “He is one of the hardest workers and a perfectionist in everything he does. Paul is easy to work with as a quarterback, and he understands the little parts of the game because he has been there.”
May 31st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Nice insight Debo, except you forgot about Joe Montana. Joe gives Hackett mondo credit for teaching him the pro passing game.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Oops. Scooped.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Chuck B. will only blitz when Uncle Al says it’s ok to do so…
I’ll set the over/under at 3 blitzes per game….
May 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
So in the 1990’s Paul Hackett was a great QB coach. That was 20 years ago. Bill Parcells was a great head coach 20 years ago.
That doesn’t mean he is still a great coach now does it?
May 31st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Nice insight Debo, except you forgot about Joe Montana. Joe gives Hackett mondo credit for teaching him the pro passing game.
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Montana is a 3rd rounder. Nobody would say that he was the #1 overall stud with a gun that JR and Palmer were. Fine, go ahead and add him to the list. Whackit was fine for those kinds of guys in that offense. Hell, that offense has made just about any QB that played in it look good. But he was the wrong guy for JR. Knapp and and DeFillipo were doing just fine. Terrible move!
May 31st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
So in the 1990’s Paul Hackett was a great QB coach. That was 20 years ago. Bill Parcells was a great head coach 20 years ago.
That doesn’t mean he is still a great coach now does it?
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1st smart thing you’ve ever said in your miserable life.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
well the sun even shines on a dogs azz once in a while.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Why is anyone talking about Paul Hackett?????Dutch, Bo, go somewhere where they talk about non-raider chat.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
LOL
May 31st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
@souldogdave
Retard, read the thread before you comment. RaiderDebbie brought up Hackett as the reason that Russell failed, that Hackett was, and is not considered a good QB coach. So yes, it is Raider-Chat related, maybe you can have someone read the thread to you and explain the comments.
Joe Montana was voted the #4 football player of all time and considers Hackett a great QB coach.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Interesting article, Jerry.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Can’t believe there are retards still defending the GREATNESS OF THE JAWALRUS. Hacket wants his players to work hard and be as prepared as possible for gameday. Working hard and being prepared are not part of Jawalrus’ vocabulary. Kinda hard to work hard and be prepared when you are on purple drank. You should know that.
I do want to thank JR for providing me with cheap jerseys that I can modify into #20 and #24. Thanks JR. SMH….
May 31st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
LOL Aig. Tragically, my #12 Marinovich jersey will always be a #12. But I did remove the “vich” on the back and now it looks good with my Isotoner gloves…
May 31st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
I have an old randy Moss jersey and on the back I used black electric tape so it says NO-MOSS.
I only wear it around the house.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
if we dont blitz expect to go 4-12 cuz pressure is the key to making offenses break
May 31st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I paid like $250 for that Russell Jersey at the Raider Store. Ouch.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
BSJ,
Just take his name off dude. You can get rid of that nameplate and put a blank one on there for cheap. I normally prefer blank nameplates anyways.
With some careful work, you can actually redo an entire jersey. My prized jersey right now is a #20 jersey that looks exactly like the 1970 version. Thank you to JR for his $25 authentic jersey.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
KK,
I feel ya brother. That sucks.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:54 pm
i need to burn my moss jersey i cant even proudly where it
May 31st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Aig
I like the idea of removing the name-plate, though.
May 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
do they sell jersey letters anywhere
May 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
If Cable had not played so many games with the QB’s that passing game would’ve been better. You guys base everything on stats you don’t have the ability to understand the game without stats. Had JC started all year that passsing game would’ve been a lot better.
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TJ,
who had complete control of the offense last year? Hue Jackson
who benched JCamp last year? Hue Jackson
who is the HC this year? Hue Jackson
if JC has a few smelly games this year whats to keep cueball from benching him again?
IF (big if) Jason Campbell stays healthy and starts all 16 games this year, I agree that the passing game (thus the stats as well) will improve over last years, but only because I think Grads & Boller are complete failures and Jason Campbell is average
this is a generous assessment imo with 4 new starters on the O-Line and no help from the draft with receiving targets (dropping JLH and getting Moore in the 5th is a wash)
May 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Wished the Raiders would go back to this jersey. 1970 was the only year they used it. So frickin unique and beautiful.
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=23635
May 31st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
lets get two cheap vets at wr and we are afc west champs
May 31st, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Wished the Raiders would go back to this jersey. 1970 was the only year they used it. So frickin unique and beautiful.
they look good but cant see the names or numbers all the time
May 31st, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@big Oak,
Yes, you can get name plates and jersey numbers on ebay. There are vendors on ebay doing that. One guy used to be the vendor for the NFL and has left over stock. Personally, I have found that I buy different jerseys and mix the numbers up. I bought a few #34 Lamont Jordan, 84 Porter, and #2 JR.
Now I have a blank #34, #3, #32, #24, and #20 McFadden. The best thing to do is spend $40 for a Chinese knockoff jersey and lift those numbers into your authentic jersey.
@KK,
The Raiders do not retire #’s so I prefer to go with blank name plates. I loved Bo Jackson and still like #34MM so that blank #34 works out perfect for me.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
“How much will Breshnahan blitz?”
Simple, as much as he wants…until it doesn’t work once.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
they look good but cant see the names or numbers all the time
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Yeah, that was the big complain that Al mentioned. I wear mine and even my wife who is not a sports fan compliments it. It is a bad a$$ looking jersey.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
30.aig-raiders Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Wished the Raiders would go back to this jersey. 1970 was the only year they used it. So frickin unique and beautiful.
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=23635
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I think they may have worn silver numbered jerseys here in the last few years for the anniversary. Not sure but yeah, they are badd azzzz…
Reason they stopped was people in the stands had trouble seeing the numbers.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
thanks aig
May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm
I’m sure Bresh will blitz a lot, and succeed with it, before Al fires him midway through the season.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Anyone here catch Hayes last night? Boy, did he let his hair down. I’ve never seen him like that. Chocolate treat, huh?
May 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
now if u put the whinner back drop on it (from last Superbowl jersey) or even an 1/4″ black border around the numbers we might have something
May 31st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
NNamdi,
Yeah they brougth it back for the 50th anniversary but it wasnt the 1970 jersey. the 50th anniversary numbers were darker grey and different font. Here is a copycat picture of it. Still nice but I am a big fan of that 1970 white jersey.
http://www.shoppingbay.us/oakland-raiders-afl-50th-anniversary-2-jamarcus-russell-white-jersey.html
May 31st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
aig add a 1/8 of an inch to that black and we are the new look raiders/ a blast from the past
May 31st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Some nice work there Jerry. Must be hard to write when nothings goin’ on but I like this peice. Great job.
Oaklands defensive front could be good. I really feel like Jarvis Moss could be a successful reclamation project. He’s in a good postion to provide depth as a situational pass rusher.
Not sold on TK. I like Desmond Bryant alot. He shows flashes but if he shows up when ever the pre season starts wearing that damb wrap on his elbow…Big John Hendu could’ve made a difference as a rotational run stuffer. Have to see if the big man can stay healthy. Seymour too.
Houston looks like he could become a world beater. He dominated one on one when kicked inside against guards. Hope Bresh watches the tape of that.
Been a fan of Matt Shaughnessy since he was drafted. Benefitting from having Seymour geting doubled and becoming a 3 down DE with a burgeoning pass rush.
Hopefully these guys can get to the QB and or disprupt passing lanes enough to save our suddenly questionable secondary.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
41. With you on that Raider fan. Ultra schweet…
May 31st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RAIDER Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Anyone here catch Hayes last night? Boy, did he let his hair down. I’ve never seen him like that. Chocolate treat, huh?
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See, the thing is, you actually slept, woke up and STILL this was the most imperative thing on your mind.
Is pathet-a-sad a word?
I’m just starting to feel bad now. I’m going to leave a dollar in your cup and move on now. Via con dios…
May 31st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Yeah, because I still remember someone going full retard in here and way overdoing it trying to convince us he had a date last night, it’s “the most imperative thing on mind”. If I see some doofus walking down the street with toilet paper stuck to his shoe, and I have a laugh about it later, it’s the most imperative thing on my mind. Yeah. You’re an imperative moron.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Hayes was talking about, “she’s making me dessert”. Have you ever heard a dude talk that way? That’s how chicks talk. It was just funny, that’s all. I didn’t mean to make you mad by insulting your fellow Davis minion pal, Nnamdi.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Doc I understand your intentions and I applaud them. But you have to give these a forum to vent or you lose them. of course we are addicted to this stuff why else would we repeatedly come here. You have to have somewhere to go and let your feelings be heard.
You can be just as effective avoiding the NFL sites and NFLN and stop buying gear and tickets will speak volumns. But to ask these guys to quit everything cold turkey? they’ll never do it. You have to allow them a release that way you can be more selective.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
aig-raiders Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 3:05 pm
@big Oak,
Yes, you can get name plates and jersey numbers on ebay. There are vendors on ebay doing that. One guy used to be the vendor for the NFL and has left over stock. Personally, I have found that I buy different jerseys and mix the numbers up. I bought a few #34 Lamont Jordan, 84 Porter, and #2 JR.
Now I have a blank #34, #3, #32, #24, and #20 McFadden. The best thing to do is spend $40 for a Chinese knockoff jersey and lift those numbers into your authentic jersey.
@KK,
The Raiders do not retire #’s so I prefer to go with blank name plates. I loved Bo Jackson and still like #34MM so that blank #34 works out perfect for me.
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Those “Chinese knockoffs” aren’t knockoffs at all. They are actually legit jerserys that are resold at bargain-basement prices($18 to $35). I have the McFadden white w/silver numbers and black name by Reebok as well as Warren Moon and Fran Tarkenton.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Chuck B will blitz less than John Marshall.
Print that.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
AIG,
Played like crap all weekend.
Buffalo Thunder was a trick shot course, and had 40 MPH winds all round.
Oh well, all in good fun.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
@49 really?
I have a few of them laying around here and I can definitely feel the difference. The real ones are much heavier and the fabric of the numbers arent the same either. The only knockoff that used the same fabric for the numbers is the McFadden or Tatum 1970’s knockoff. that’s why I lifted that McFadden onto a real jersey.
The real numbers have a texture feel to it with stripes going horizontal. the fake numbers are shinier and have a more metallic look.
May 31st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
At least you got to play man. It was too hot here to play yesterday. Golf is like a box of chocolate…to quote Forrest Gump.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
aig-raiders Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
@49 really?
I have a few of them laying around here and I can definitely feel the difference. The real ones are much heavier and the fabric of the numbers arent the same either. The only knockoff that used the same fabric for the numbers is the McFadden or Tatum 1970’s knockoff. that’s why I lifted that McFadden onto a real jersey.
The real numbers have a texture feel to it with stripes going horizontal. the fake numbers are shinier and have a more metallic loo
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The McFadden jersey I have is the one that they wear when they play the throwback games against the Chargers in their throwback powder blues).
May 31st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
The heavier jerseys (made of durene material) are from the 60’s. I got a Lance Alworth 1963 Charger #19-so you’re right about those jerseys. The china ones are modern.
May 31st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
the winnepeg jets are back in the nhl bye bye atlanta thrashers
May 31st, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Remember this post raider nation. Nnamdi will be back due to BIG RICH SEYMOUR. I remember a post back when the giants were playing at home in the world series and both Nnamdi and big Rich were at the game talking about the future of the team. For that very reason he will be back and was never planning on leaving.. No worries nation he will be back!!
May 31st, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Davis Stern is doing some serious spin for his league. They know a lockout is looming at the end of June. This is not good for the NBA because of all the negative buzz around the NFL. They have taken all the ill-will so far but if the NBA is a lockout they’re going to look even worse than the NFL.
May 31st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
thanks for that news break!!
May 31st, 2011 at 5:37 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
30.aig-raiders Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Wished the Raiders would go back to this jersey. 1970 was the only year they used it. So frickin unique and beautiful.
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=23635
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I think they may have worn silver numbered jerseys here in the last few years for the anniversary. Not sure but yeah, they are badd azzzz…
Reason they stopped was people in the stands had trouble seeing the numbers.
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I thought those jerseys were unbelievable too. I didn’t think they were hard to see in the stands though. I thought it wasn’t used because it was hard to see on T.V..
We’ve come a long way from the grainy old pictures of the 60’s to modern 3D/HD. I can’t see that argument being used anymore.
I would love to have those become a permanent road white. I really like the old decal also, but I doubt they would drop the current shield, it just has too much history.
Using it all as a throwback a few times a year would be great though. Maybe on a Monday night, or against an AFL team.
May 31st, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Last week, former NFL star Warrick Dunn was pulled over outside Atlanta, Georgia by three police officers. Dunn has been involved in a number of charitable organizations since leaving the NFL, including founding the Warrick Dunn Family Foundation to help single parents find homes for their families. The former Atlanta Falcons running back has also received numerous accolades for his off-the-field service, including the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, the Bart Starr Award, and former President Clinton’s Giant Steps Award. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution described Dunn as a “model citizen.”
So it was to Dunn’s surprise when he was stopped by police officers for having “the characteristic of people transporting drugs and guns” last Friday. Dunn, who is a 36 year-old black man, was also stopped for having tinted windows that were allegedly “too dark.” Dunn reported the incident on his Facebook account late last week:
Pulled over outside Atl because he said my window tint was too dark. During the stop he asked a lot of personal questions, said I had the characteristics of people transporting drugs & guns. So he searched my car and gave me a warning for my tint. Felt violated and I’ve had my car since ’08, nvr been pulled ovr for tint. Taken back bc I think the reasoning was bad. Ruined my day but not my spirit.
May 31st, 2011 at 6:37 pm
My guess is that there will be no real football this year.
In the next 60 to 90 days there is going to be an international financial meltdown that is going to make all this entertainment BS unimportant.
The owners and players will scramble to cobble together some kind of season to try to suck a few dollars out of the dying economy, but to no avail.
Sorry to be such a downer, but football is not really important when you are starving to death.
May 31st, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Warrick Dunn is without reproach.
Ban the Trolls, Ban the NFL and NLPA lawyers and then ban bad cops.
May 31st, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Another doomsday prediction, twocents? Ha ha. Since O-bama got elected, these have been popping up every other week.
May 31st, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Hard Knocks poll wraps up with AFC West
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/31/hard-knocks-poll-wraps-up-with-afc-west/
Cast in your vote!!!
May 31st, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Using it all as a throwback a few times a year would be great though. Maybe on a Monday night, or against an AFL team.
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Glad to see there are fans like you wanting those jerseys back. You are right that you wont have a TV problem with HD broadcasting now. If the Raiders want to make extra money, they should do throw back jerseys a few times per year. I think the league is actually doing that already with the other teams in this league.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Hey twocents, I bet you $1,000 we don’t have a financial meltdown in the next 90 days.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Warrick Dunn is a very high character individual. Feel sad for the guy. It’s tough being bullied by the cops but I am glad he kept his cool. Unfortunately, that’s all we can do in that situation.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
I just read RRS post to me about the prospects of the upcoming season. He says Hujack benched Camp, we all know that is NOT true yes he went along with it. But we all know who made that decision. Cable never wanted Camp that is clear and benched every chance he got. Cable cost this team at least two games.
Hue had no problems with Camp after the first SD game and neither did I now prior to that I had serious questions about him. he played way too tentative but once he was more comfortable with this team he played well.
RRS also said we got nothing as rec’s in the draft calling JLH and DMoore a wash. I disagree I think JLH definitely needs a change of scenery. I’m not sure he’s an NFL player anymore, and getting DMoore IMO was a good get. He’s extremely talented a pure WR young and hasn’t taken those huge hits JLH took. Not to mention he is much bigger than JLH 185 solid 195 with the frame to get bigger. He makes plays that I never seen JLH make so lets wait a while b4 calling that a wash.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:36 pm
AIG that happens to a lot of black folks especially those without money, and those who are rich and famous. All they see is a black face in a rich area and they get all hot and bothered.
I remember Marcus Allen was almost killed because he had just bought a Lamborghini Testarosa and it wasn’t registered yet. They had him face down hand cuffed with guns to the back of his head.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:40 pm
When O-bama was living in Chicago he never had to worry when the police were looking for a skinny black male, because he’s half white.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
As I said, it sucks but the only thing you can do is keep your cool.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Jackson took credit for being the first to recommend the benching JC. He even mentioned he thought about doing that in the first game of the season. Dude, pls stop trying to rewrite history. JC had every opportunity to lead us to the playoff last year when there was 5 games left and Grad was put on IR. JC couldnt do it. Let’s wish him the best this season but let’s not make up excuses for him for last season. It’s not like it was 10 yrs ago. It was only 6 months ago.
May 31st, 2011 at 8:59 pm
The series is officially ‘OVA’ the Heat with DWade and LBJ is sick plus they have Bosh who shot poorly tonite they just have tooo much talet in those 3 both Wade and LBJ are better players than Dirk who is the best player 4 the Mav’s. It’ll go 5 that’s it….
May 31st, 2011 at 9:02 pm
It’s not excuses man it’s my opinion had he played the full season we make the playoffs whether it was Hujack or Cable I don’t give a damn who benched him it was stupid. Grads can’t carry Camp’s jock…………….period
May 31st, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Are you kidding me? The ball was in JC’s hands and it was his team to go to the playoff at the end of the season with 5 games to go. He couldnt do it. You JC supporters are very predictable. When cornered or have your excuses debunked, all you do is bring up Grad. How about JC being clutch when we needed him? Couldnt do it. Period!
May 31st, 2011 at 9:09 pm
The dude can’t carry the team and never will be able to carry the team. He can’t handle pressure. Guarantee you Hue Jack will bench JC again this year. Guaranteed!
May 31st, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Rick Carlisle can flat out coach in the NBA. Dude has a long history of getting his teams to over achieve. Wished the W’s had gotten him somewhere along the way.
Heard Mike Brown on the radio today and I feel bad for the Lakers. Dude may be a good assistant but I have a hunch he is nothing but a Norv Turner of the NBA. Dude just doesn’t have the IT factor in his verbal skills as the Headcoach.
May 31st, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Jason Campbell is a mediocre QB in this league at best. Gradkowski is good, yet injury prone and small. All of Campbell’s backups now are mediocre at best, like him. Our roster is worse now with Grads not there to backup JC. FACT.
May 31st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Priesttj Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 8:31 pm
He says Hujack benched Camp, we all know that is NOT true yes he went along with it. But we all know who made that decision. Cable never wanted Camp that is clear and benched every chance he got. Cable cost this team at least two games.
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This doesn’t sound like an opinion, this sounds like something you know. The thing is though, you don’t know.
May 31st, 2011 at 9:29 pm
AIG you made a ton of gaurantees about JC last year did any of them come true?? You said he was a fraud and he would prove it without a doubt. Well he proved just the opposite. No matter what you say AIG you can’t gaurantee a dman thing because you don’t control nothing but your bowels (hopefully).
Stop making foolish gaurantees you can’t fulfill and watch this young man play QB. WE as a TEAM didn’t make the playoffs JC played well enough to go. We have to get better at WR and at times we didn’t play well defensively and JC has to get better as well. Which I think he will.
May 31st, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Priest,
1. I called him a fraud prior to the Pittsburg game and I was proven right. I specifically said Pittsburg will expose him and did he get yanked in that game? hmm……
2. I bet with someone on here that he would be yanked again after the first KC game and I won the bet. I even gave the guy a 3-1 odds and I have a proof of the payment via paypal if you want to see a copy.
3. Jeez, when we win, it’s because of JC. When we lose, it’s the team. I thought you said we’d make the playoffs if he wasnt benched last year…..what happened to that “TEAM” thing.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
correction…actually it was a 4-1 odd.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:05 pm
This is for RRS I’ve read a lot of scouting services and DMoore was rated in most of them in the top 15-18 rec’s in the draft and we got him inthe 5th rnd. That’s ahead of players like Jeremy Kerley who I like a lot. I think this kid might be one of the better players in this draft for us.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:09 pm
It is pretty sad the way some bad mouth Gradkowski the way they do.Even the old man when talking about him said his problem was he couldn’t stay healthy.Nothing was said about his play,just that he couldn’t stay healthy.Hue Jack said he benched JC.People on here say he didn’t,Cable did.While it may be true Cable made the decision,HJ as OC and the one responsible for the Off., no doubt recommended it,or are you saying he is a liar.Why would he have been watching Cables back?
May 31st, 2011 at 10:09 pm
You said he wouldn’t play afterwards if you can run your mouth own up to it. He proved you wrong he’s entrenched ads the starter by Hujack when you said Grads would be the starter for this team hands down. Not your exact words but everybody in here knows what you said so give it up son.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:10 pm
You praised Gradkowski like he was Johnnie Unitas, stop the crap!!
May 31st, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Lefty12 I’m saying who knows who said what all I know is I blame both of them for benching JC for the season. But ultimately you have to blame Cable he’s the HC to pawn it off on Hujack is guesswork. When cable stood before the media HE said that Mr Davis said it was HIS decision to make. And he made it that was b4 the Miami game.
Now for my money as I watch the games from last year i see a very talented QB in JC. I can’t vouch any else’s opinion I’m saying JC is very underrated as I see him. I think he will have one of the better years we’ve seen since Gannon. If things go well I think he can play as well as he did outside of that MVP year. When Gannon was special I think JC can play top 15 ball I mean one of the better QB’s in this league.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:23 pm
TJ the Clown, stfu and go to bed. You’ll be on hold all day tomorrow trying to get on the Rick Tittle show.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Dude,
You got some serious mental issue you know that. I won the frickin bet and I have the proof right here…. you dumb jerk. I’ll hide the poster’s name just to keep him out of this conversation. It wasnt even for the rest of the season. I correctly predicted he would be yanked in the next 3 games.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Aig, let’s put 100 bones as the wager… Baring injury campbell will start the next 3 and will not be yanked…3-1 odds…
May 31st, 2011 at 10:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 31st, 2011 at 10:23 pm
TJ the Clown, stfu and go to bed. You’ll be on hold all day tomorrow trying to get on the Rick Tittle show.
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Too funny. He was quoting Atkinson as his good friend on here but Atkinson hung up on him once after the game on the radio. Priest was trying to make excuses for JR and Atkinson just cut him off….good nite all.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:35 pm
AIG I aint talking about no bet son, you can read I’m talking about you saaying he would prove to EVERYONE that he was a fraud you said it. Cable yanked JC because he didn’t like him in the first place no mystery there. Cable wanted Grads and Grads got his ass fired……………period
Anybody with half a brain knows now that JC was the better QB all the time. We didn’t know that then because they didn’t giv ethe kid a fair chance. When they did he won 3 straight games and I don’t care how you slice it HE was the starter when we won.
As far as him getting benched and you winning a bet witout Cable’s stupid ass you would’ve lost…………..period
May 31st, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Cable didn’t pawn it off on HJ.In fact Cable said it was his decision.The thing is HJ also said it was his decision.Going by what they BOTH said,it sounds as if HJ told Cable he wanted JC benched.The thing is it doesn’t matter now.Cable is gone,the job is JCs.We shall see if he is the answer-hopefully this year.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Lefty12 I didn’t mean Cable pawns it off on Hue I’m saying everybody else does. He was the HC he bares final decisions if JC sits it’s HIS decision ultimately.
We all know Cable favored Grads that is no secret. He played with the position and cost us games. It’s really that simple. He also screwed around with the Oline for an eternity never getting it to where it needed to be. He didn’t know how to use DMC or Bush and the passing game was a joke under him. I hold him responsible for all of this.
May 31st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
As I watch JC Lefty12 I see a guy with a lot of talent who take sthe game seriously and is a professional. He’s not bragadocious like Grads he just oes about his business in a very professional way. we have the talent around him for him to flourish he has no excuses beyond this season. I think he will play well and I think he will play well for a long time.
May 31st, 2011 at 11:01 pm
tj the whiffer,
Another long hard day talking Raider football during a lockout on a blog 18hrs straight? Go outside and breath some air pops. What a life you have going…
lol
May 31st, 2011 at 11:11 pm
I’m not sticking up for Cable or Grads.They are both gone.But I find it funny that HJ gets all the credit for the good things we did on Off. this past season and Cable gets all the blame for everything that went south.Either HJ ran the Off. or he didn’t.Either he called the shots or he didn’t.You can’t pick and chose with what he did and didn’t do.As far as JC goes,he is the starter,so we have to hope he turns out good for us.
May 31st, 2011 at 11:42 pm
I don’t remember Grads being a braggart.Whenever I heard him he was always a team guy.The hate spewed his way is uncalled for,IMO.He may not have been the second coming of the Snake,but he wasn’t Aaron Brooks either.His main problem was he couldn’t stay healthy.At least that is what Davis said.
May 31st, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Lefty12 I definitely think Hue ran the offense(playcalling gameplanning) but ultimately Cable say WHO plays. Cable was Hues boss had DMC and Bush for two years b4 Hue got there and never flourished under him. The Oline strugggled almost his entire time here in pass pro. I’m not saying Hue wasn’t on board with JC getting benched because he said he was. So I take him at his word, but ultimately the HC says who plays and who doesn’t. Playcalling aside he makes all pivotal decisions FG’s or TD’s, 4th and 1 those are HC decisions. So he’s culpable.
Hue has a huge job in front of him he has to get that Oline fixed or it’s going to cost him his job. I said the same thing about cable 3 years ago. Mr Davis will not allow for a bad Oline indefinitely. If Hue can’t gtet it done he’ll find someone who can I believe that was Cable’s undoing the Oline.
May 31st, 2011 at 11:49 pm
No one hates the guy Lefty12 that’s way too strong. I like him but he is a bit of a braggard he knew the fans liked him and he ran his mouth to the media too much for my taste. He talked as if he had won some big games for us. He was a borderline QB a very good backup but IMO a questionable starter. While JC was humble and quiet and professional. I like Grads competitiveness but he was really feeling himself a bit much for me.
May 31st, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Priest,together they probably formulated game plans.But once the games began whoever played was dictated by what plays were called.If a certain player was getting the most reps during practice,chances are that player was called upon during the game.There is 2 ways to look at the job Cable did with the line-he either screwed it up,or he did the best he could with the personnel he was given.I somewhat agree the O-line was his undoing,especially with BC not seeing the field.I guess we shall see if he was right or not-if they ever play any games.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 am
Cable this,Grads that,as I said earlier,it makes no difference because neither is associated with the team any longer and we will see if that is good or bad.Hopefully all will be good.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 am
Yeah it’s a lot of conjecture on my part but I really believe the reason cable was selected was his potential to biuld the line.
And your right the games will ultimately decide what decisions were wrong or right.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:13 am
That could very well be the case.If it is,was he given the necessary talent to properly get the job done?Remember when he said it would be nice to have one of those OTs in the draft a couple of years ago?Was he asked to make chicken salad out of chicken manure?Was he responsible for the players he was supposed to make into a 1st rate line?Questions,questions,questions.I do know I am happy we are going back to more of a power scheme though.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:15 am
Well,I’m done.Nite.Again some time.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:22 am
Nite Lefty12!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:23 am
priest, I would never try to equate Bruce Gradkowski with Johnny Unitas. Unless I was pointing out that they’re both better than Jason Campbell. They do have that in common.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:30 am
Incorrect 107.
Grads could not read defenses or stay healthy. Johnny U re-invented the game and played with an arm that flopped out of socket every 5th pass.
Campbell remains an unknown quantity as far as Oakland goes…
June 1st, 2011 at 12:30 am
Jarvis Moss
June 1st, 2011 at 4:57 am
I know it’s got nothing to do with football but I think this is the best advert ever.Only one thing wrong – the steering wheel’s in the wrong place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzJB3ScpWbg
June 1st, 2011 at 5:06 am
While I’m here….Tiki Barber , you frickin’ ar$ehole.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:11 am
How much will Bresnahan blitz?
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 31st, 2011 at 1:18 pm in Oakland Raiders
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How much will Chuck B. Blitz? Not as much as Marshall, thats for sure. Great write-up Jerry. I agree. I remember the days of the prevent defense. The keep-the-play-in-front-of-you defense. I hated it then, and I won’t likely enjoy it now. Whatever failings that Marshall had, he had one season to get this team to gel and he made some good progress, as shown in the sack total.
I’ll throw out one game in particular that shocked me. I was expecting the Chargers to just steamroll us in the first game last year. But we jumped out to a quick lead thanks to some aggressive defense and pressure on P. Rivers. I bet even the Chargers were puzzled. We had them on their heels. Our defense took the game from them in the first half and hung on in the second half. Marshall’s blitzing style is what the doctor ordered. We went from being unpredictable and dangerous to soft and yielding with Chucky B.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:12 am
Great win by the Heat last night. 3 more W’s in a row. I smell a sweep. Too bad it’s the lowly Mavs getting the broom and not the Lakers.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:18 am
Hue has a huge job in front of him he has to get that Oline fixed or it’s going to cost him his job. I said the same thing about cable 3 years ago. Mr Davis will not allow for a bad Oline indefinitely. If Hue can’t gtet it done he’ll find someone who can I believe that was Cable’s undoing the Oline.
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If the O-Line isn’t fixed, you can point the finger at the bossman himself. There needs to be an influx of priority FA OL signings. We didn’t draft our way to a talented O-line, so we must buy it to some extent. Otherwise, the analogy of turning chicken manure into chicken salad holds true. Cable did the best he could with inferior talent, and it was “meh”. HueJax has even less to work with as it stands today.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:35 am
Funny that the game Bruce played against Miami (which was a bad one, 63.5 QB rating) is deemed the point of complete awfullness by many on here, some even saying it was the worst QB’d game they ever seen.
But Soup, with his 53 QB rating through the first two games he played, got a raw deal getting pulled. I give kudo’s to Hue Jackson to have the gumption to make that decision so quickly, as necessary as it obviously was.
When Soup is good, he is way better than Bruce. But when Soup is bad, he is way worse than Bruce is, and that is a non-debatable statistical fact.
In Oakland, Bruce’s miami start was his worst QB rating with us. Soup had 3 GAMES LAST YEAR, that were worst than that as far as QB rating (Pitt, SF game which was actually worse than anything even Jamarcus could muster, and STL game).
June 1st, 2011 at 5:43 am
Last year, I was all in favor of Gradkowski because JCamp looked like he was a deer in the headlights. Even though it wasn’t his fault he was getting chased out of the pocket constantly and the line wasn’t getting it done in pass protection, he seemed to lose composure.
Bruce seemed to thrive in those situations. He’d put on his best performances coming in relief. Kind of like a relief pitcher in baseball. But when you compare the overall talent level, Campbell is way more talented and Gradkowski has a big heart, but can’t keep himself healthy enough to count on. It was a tease to think he would be a long term QB solution.
Let’s give Campbell another try this year, and hope the line holds up better. If not, we could be in for more QB rating games like the one at SF last year.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:49 am
No doubt, this is Soup’s year in 2011. He earned the year to start, but he also earned the right to NOT BE offered a contract extension either.
I don’t believe we should bring back Bruce either (although I have a little suspicion we may do so, after we failed to get a QB in the draft).
I just don’t get the excuse making for Jason Campbell. He is an average QB, who plays above average sometimes, well below average sometimes, and has never been over .500 in a season.
I think Soup will hold this team back this year, but let’s hope I am wrong!!!
June 1st, 2011 at 5:51 am
I like that we have two leaders on Offense and Defense that lead by example and are getting the team ready. Having J Campbell and R. Seymour take charge of player minicamps is going to help build team unity. I think in a way, them getting together on their own without pay, and putting in the effort tells each of the players on the team who really wants to be great and put in the effort and who is there just for the paycheck and the glamour. When they finally get back to sanctioned football practices, the players are going to already know who is leading and who needs to be on the roster bubble. There’s no cameras, no big money, no splashy hotel or fancy spreads. Just football players getting down to basics and tearing down the game to its raw elements.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:51 am
It’s like what Lefty said last night.
Everything that went well last year on offense, was thanks to Campbell and Hue.
And everything that went wrong is on the O-line and Cable.
When in fact, the O-line played well in games that we won (especially in the division when we dominated those 6 games on both LOS) and Soup played like crap in some of the games we lost.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:59 am
Go Heat !!!
June 1st, 2011 at 6:02 am
I hate the Heat, really because of Lebron. I always liked Wade, but I can’t stand Lebron’s frequent pouting on the court, and high-pitched yelp when trying to draw a foul.
With all that said, if Miller and Chalmers are going to knock down 3’s like last night, the Mavs stand no chance.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:08 am
Lebron is a self-important, immature superstar athelete. I don’t blame you for not liking him. It doesn’t diminish the fact he’ll be a champion soon. When the Heat go back to back to back, the haters will all turn into bandwagoners, just like they did with Jordan. Everyone loves a winner.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:11 am
Good Morning Nation!
Unfortunately, LePuke will get his ring, and I’m not hating…
I lost all respect for him with the “Decision” thing. I mean really…???
But I doubt they will win back to back to back, Guest…seriously doubt it! And with that being said, and I probably have puked in my mouth a few times sayng this…Go Mavs!
June 1st, 2011 at 6:12 am
When in fact, the O-line played well in games that we won (especially in the division when we dominated those 6 games on both LOS) and Soup played like crap in some of the games we lost.
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So, it’s seems as if you are saying we were a model of inconsistency last year, right?
June 1st, 2011 at 6:13 am
I will never love or root for Lebron.
His brilliance is amazing though, but I hate pouters on the court.
It always seemed to be the difference between Jordan’s Bulls and everyone else in the league to me. Jordan was focused, business like, and when Jordan protested a call, he actually worked the refs, very business-like. It always seemed like the Pacers and Reggie Miller, the Knicks and Ewing, and the Jazz with Malone, would just sit and pout and cry the whole time they played the Bulls.
Once Lebron wins a ring or two, maybe he will stop yelping like a just stepped on Yorkie.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:14 am
So, it’s seems as if you are saying we were a model of inconsistency last year, right?
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Very much so.
The only consistant things last year, were our ability to run the ball and inability to stop the run.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:16 am
Lebron offered this apology to Cleveland fans:
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Among other things said in the post game press conference, James offered an apology to Cleveland saying, “I knew deep down in my heart, as much as I loved my teammates back in Cleveland and as much as I loved home, I knew it couldn’t do it by myself against that team (Boston Celtics).”
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Would Jordan make this kind of admission of weakness?
June 1st, 2011 at 6:23 am
I don’t get the hate for Lebron and the Heat.
Fans and writers always complain about the players going just for the money.
When a player signs a big contract they always say: “it wasn’t about the money, it was about the chance to win a title”…and it’s always a bunch of crap.
Well, here’s 3 guys who each left 15 million on the table for a chance to play together and win championships…isn’t that what we always demand from them?.
“According to ESPN, Bosh, James and Wade will take roughly $15 million less than the max.”
Yeah, they’re already millionaires, but we’re not talking about a couple of million here, it’s 15 freaking million.
And now everyone hates them for it, go figure.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:30 am
112.guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 5:11 am
How much will Bresnahan blitz?
By Jerry McDonald – NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 31st, 2011 at 1:18 pm in Oakland Raiders
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How much will Chuck B. Blitz? Not as much as Marshall, thats for sure. Great write-up Jerry. I agree. I remember the days of the prevent defense. The keep-the-play-in-front-of-you defense. I hated it then, and I won’t likely enjoy it now. Whatever failings that Marshall had, he had one season to get this team to gel and he made some good progress, as shown in the sack total.
I’ll throw out one game in particular that shocked me. I was expecting the Chargers to just steamroll us in the first game last year. But we jumped out to a quick lead thanks to some aggressive defense and pressure on P. Rivers. I bet even the Chargers were puzzled. We had them on their heels. Our defense took the game from them in the first half and hung on in the second half. Marshall’s blitzing style is what the doctor ordered. We went from being unpredictable and dangerous to soft and yielding with Chucky B.
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I so agree with this it’s not even funny! Don’t do that soft@$$ cover stuff. Get in their faces and make them pay dearly for every yeard! I’mm gonna get sick to my stomach on a “Prevent Defense” setup again
June 1st, 2011 at 6:30 am
I don’t blame LeBron for wanting to go after a title, I just don’t like the way he did it. Did you guys see Jordan’s spoof “Decision” commercial? Anyways, it doesn’t matter…he will win one this year because I don’t think the Mavs have what it takes to beat them. Not sure if they will win one in the series either…but…
June 1st, 2011 at 6:30 am
Bob,
When you factor in the fact that the State of Florida has no state sales tax, and the lime-light that Miami offers for off the court earnings, these guys will make more money in Miami than anywhere else.
I got no problem with them off the court, Chris Bosh is one of the smartest, funniest, honest guys in the league.
But Lebron’s “not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7″ was one of the dumbest things I ever heard any athlete say.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:32 am
I hope they win the title, they’re good for the NBA and I’m sure the rest of the timid owners love it (maybe not Cuban who is always willing to go all-out)).
June 1st, 2011 at 6:42 am
“Just Fire Baby Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 6:30 am
Bob,
When you factor in the fact that the State of Florida has no state sales tax, and the lime-light that Miami offers for off the court earnings, these guys will make more money in Miami than anywhere else.”
– I know, but I think the tax issue is overblown, otherwise Florida’s teams would have no problem puting together all-star teams in every major sport.
And Lebron’s off the court earnings would have been huge anywhere and probably greater if he had signed in New York.
“But Lebron’s “not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7″ was one of the dumbest things I ever heard any athlete say”.
– That I won’t argue, he was just trying to please the crowd but yeah, that was stupid.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:43 am
But Lebron’s “not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7″ was one of the dumbest things I ever heard any athlete say.
I agree with that one…LeBron is playing like a beast in these playoffs and last night! i think he wants it more than Kidd, and Dirk…who may just be on their last hoorah!
June 1st, 2011 at 6:45 am
You guys talk about James crying, what about the owner of the Cav’s??? He literally attempted to put a curse on Le Bron with his ranting and raving….
I never liked Le Bron however, becuase of the owner I hope he wins several titles…
June 1st, 2011 at 6:50 am
And Jordan stopped crying, kinda, once he started getting every call.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:51 am
The team who has the better players will win….
3 of the 4 best players in the league are on the court for miami Dallass is done… Actually they were done after they beat okc…
June 1st, 2011 at 6:52 am
Le Bron puts a boot in Dirks azzz…..hahahah
F dirk….
June 1st, 2011 at 6:57 am
When Jordan “cried” it was more manly at least, lol. He would get in the refs face maybe, yell like a man, and than work him over around mid-court during a FT attempt.
Lebron yelps like a 14 year old girl and makes that pouting face. I just can’t stand it.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:59 am
LOL.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:59 am
Later Vegas.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:01 am
Yeah Thec07…the Cav’s owner was pretty dam stupid for saying that…he was responsible for building a team around LeBron that NEVER happened! But the difference between LeBron and Jordan…Jordan made Pippen, Grant, Paxson, etc. better players around him…LeBron, probably still won’t. But hey…JuWon Howard…the only player from the Fab Five still playing, and also the only one to advance to the Finals…and get that coveted Championship!
June 1st, 2011 at 7:03 am
But hey…JuWon Howard…the only player from the Fab Five still playing, and also the only one to advance to the Finals…and get that coveted Championship!
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ABC quickly reversed that stat about the Fab 5 last night.
Jalen Rose and the Pacers made the finals that year that Kobe and Reggie started swinging on each other.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:12 am
You know what? You’re right…I forgot Rose was on that Pacer team that lost, but…Howard will probably be the only one that gets it!
June 1st, 2011 at 7:12 am
And wasn’t that team coached by the Greatest White Boy to ever play the game? Larry Bird?
June 1st, 2011 at 7:35 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/05/31/ryan-leaf-brain.ap/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a4
Knew there was something wrong with that boy!
June 1st, 2011 at 7:43 am
Bird was hard no doubt however, for entertainment value Pistol Pete was awesome…
June 1st, 2011 at 8:02 am
When you factor in the fact that the State of Florida has no state sales tax, and the lime-light that Miami offers for off the court earnings, these guys will make more money in Miami than anywhere else.”
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But there are state sales taxes. I think you meant personal income state taxes, and no there aren’t any in Florida. There isn’t any for Texas either. Funny how both teams in the finals are from those states.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:05 am
welcome to the NBA blog.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:08 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 8:05 am
welcome to the NBA blog.
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might as well….I mean what is there to discuss about football?
June 1st, 2011 at 8:16 am
Mike Brown = Tom Cable
both clueless
the Lakers are foooked.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:18 am
yes you are correct there is nothing happening with the stupid CBA.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:20 am
The NBA is a sport I’ll wait to tune into until about 5 minutes in the game. And even then I get really tired of these gifted ahtletes who can really play and shot and dunk. It’s all because they act like major tools with the chest bumps, shirt tugs, and face gestures. You don’t see teammates in other sports so in-your-face about a well executed play. Other sports are more about teamwork, but that concept is lost in the NBA. As gifted as the stars are, I am not interested at all in them as people.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:27 am
I think people are too hard on Cable. Maybe it was all HueJax, and he was riding the coattails. Maybe so. Who knows?
But the wins that Oakland got last year were bruising victories. They punched the other teams in the mouth and played the bully. It was a lot more satisfying to watch than the previous years when we happened to eke out a win because the other team was overconfident or we got lucky. Worse was winning with finesse football.
I am worried that we lost some of the punch now that Marshall is gone. This team was on its way to being a bully. I hope Chucky B saw what we did and doesn’t go back to that play-it-safe prevent D. Then we have to cringe and hold our breath, cross the fingers, that superior QB’s are going to beat us in the final 2 minutes. That wears on you as a fan, and I’m sure wears on the guys in the trenches that are fighting for the W.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:29 am
Hey 666, here is an article you might find interesting given our NBA debate a few days ago….even KAJ thinks Wilt was the man:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6613625
June 1st, 2011 at 8:47 am
” It’s all because they act like major tools with the chest bumps, shirt tugs, and face gestures. You don’t see teammates in other sports so in-your-face about a well executed play. Other sports are more about teamwork, but that concept is lost in the NBA. As gifted as the stars are, I am not interested at all in them as people.”
This is exactly why I do NOT watch the NBA. The just don’t play defense.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:50 am
Dakota,
I saw Mike Brown in his many pressers in the past and was never impressed. Finally heard him on the radio last nite and dude is not impressive at all. He just doesnt command that respect imo. Aint got the “it” factor to be the head honcho.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:52 am
Dakota
I forgot about Wilt you have a good point. I have limited basketball knowledge but did like KAJ back in the day. Isiah Thomas and Magic were my favorite players. I stopped watching the NBA after magic retired.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:54 am
guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 8:27 am
I think people are too hard on Cable.
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Wrong, people were too soft on Cable. The majority of the people in here wanted to retain him as HC after last season.
The dude had no business being an NFL HC and it took Hue Jackson and a major cupcake schedule to drag him to .500 for one year. You could tell in his post game pressers that the man never had a clue on how to fix our problems.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am
Dude explained his first contact with Kobe was a text message. How lame. You call the man just like any grown man would do.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:57 am
157.aig-raiders Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 8:50 am
Dakota,
I saw Mike Brown in his many pressers in the past and was never impressed. Finally heard him on the radio last nite and dude is not impressive at all. He just doesnt command that respect imo. Aint got the “it” factor to be the head honcho.
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I am astounded that the Lakers chose this guy. The Jim Buss days are here and the Lakers will never be the same.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:58 am
Wrong, people were too soft on Cable. The majority of the people in here wanted to retain him as HC after last season.
The dude had no business being an NFL HC and it took Hue Jackson and a major cupcake schedule to drag him to .500 for one year. You could tell in his post game pressers that the man never had a clue on how to fix our problems.
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I never said that Cable was a good coach. I’m sure that his run with the Raiders will be his only shot at being a HC. He used his loyalty to Al Davis to get a job he was never qualified for.
He never had the investment in resources needed to compete to get to the next level. The O-line was a joke the entire time he was here. A good part of that is on Cable, but Al Davis never spent the draft picks or FA money on OL and it showed.
Sorry if I sound like a Cable apologist. I am not.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:00 am
to be fair, I think he knows his X’s and O’s well and is a very good assistant. But we all know there is a tremendous difference between the HC vs the Asst job. I think the Lakers screwed up badly not involving Kobe. Kobe earned the right to be involved with the HC search.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am
It doesn’t diminish the fact he’ll be a champion soon. When the Heat go back to back to back, the haters will all turn into bandwagoners, just like they did with Jordan. Everyone loves a winner.
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Agreed with G123
LeBron = stud. get over it !!!
June 1st, 2011 at 9:21 am
Bob Marley #123 = excellent post
the guys who complain are all Laker fans and none of them complained when the Lakers signed or traded for Gasol, Odom or Artest to join Kobe Bryant
now they are crying for help, asking the Lakers brass to go after Dwight Howard & Chris Paul.
and they’re in desperation mode since Phil Jackson (one of the Top 3 coaches in NBA history) decided to retire at age 65
It’s all quite hilarious to me
June 1st, 2011 at 9:23 am
The Lebron hate is real though. I live in Florida and I can tell you. Pretty much everyone outside of Miami hates the Heat. But then again, so many hated Jordan too before he won those titles. Now a lot of people act liked they were a fan all along. Once Lebron wins some titles, all the rest is forgiven.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:27 am
Yes, we didn’t, but none of them made a big presser about his “Decision”
June 1st, 2011 at 9:28 am
There really was nobody other than maybe Pat Riley who could fill P. Jackson’s shoes. The transition out of the triangle offense is going to be a big change. I hear that Brown wants to turn the Lakers into a clone of the Spurs with twin towers underneath. Lakers going to need to add some sharpshooters to play this style. I bet there will be some wholesale personel changes coming to the Lakeshow. Transition or Rebuilding? or Re-”tooling”. hehehe…love that made up word.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:29 am
I hear Jordan did a parody of Lebron’s decision. I’d love to see that. He’s the only guy that can pull that off.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:31 am
So fixing the Eagles offensive line and improving Michael Vick’s awareness should be no sweat for the 69-year-old.
“There’s some stuff we need to clean up. Including Mike’s understanding of who’s not blocked; that, if there’s a guy who’s not blocked, get it out of your hand,” Mudd told Hayes in a separate article. “We want Mike to live to play the next play.”
Mudd, who returned to coaching after a one-year retirement after a legendary run with the Colts, relies on athleticism and movement more than Philly’s old line approach. But Mudd says his intent is to simplify things, much like new defensive coordinator Juan Castillo intends to simplify the defense.
“We make football too complicated,” Mudd said. “It doesn’t make any difference how old you are. In order to be coached, you’ve got to want to be coached. The ones who don’t want to are going to get kicked in the ass and do it anyway.”
-PFT
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while the Raiders are going egghead with Jackson, Saunders & Wylie … the Eagles are going simple
Hmmm, thoughts?
June 1st, 2011 at 9:32 am
169.guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:29 am
I hear Jordan did a parody of Lebron’s decision. I’d love to see that. He’s the only guy that can pull that off.
It was actually pretty funny, if you think about it…
June 1st, 2011 at 9:33 am
while the Raiders are going egghead with Jackson, Saunders & Wylie … the Eagles are going simple
Hmmm, thoughts?
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Sounds like the ZBS that went with Cable.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:37 am
170.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:31 am
So fixing the Eagles offensive line and improving Michael Vick’s awareness should be no sweat for the 69-year-old.
“There’s some stuff we need to clean up. Including Mike’s understanding of who’s not blocked; that, if there’s a guy who’s not blocked, get it out of your hand,” Mudd told Hayes in a separate article. “We want Mike to live to play the next play.”
Mudd, who returned to coaching after a one-year retirement after a legendary run with the Colts, relies on athleticism and movement more than Philly’s old line approach. But Mudd says his intent is to simplify things, much like new defensive coordinator Juan Castillo intends to simplify the defense.
“We make football too complicated,” Mudd said. “It doesn’t make any difference how old you are. In order to be coached, you’ve got to want to be coached. The ones who don’t want to are going to get kicked in the ass and do it anyway.”
-PFT
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while the Raiders are going egghead with Jackson, Saunders & Wylie … the Eagles are going simple
Hmmm, thoughts?
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My thoughts are we’ve been too simple – time to change it up, when the other doesn’t know what’s coming at them sucess is in site.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:38 am
Chuck B & Mike Waufle worked together from 1998-2003.
Rod Woodson was a Raider 2002 & 2003.
Greg Biekert (drafted in 1993) was with these guys from 1998-2001
sort of like a Homecoming this offseason, no?
June 1st, 2011 at 9:40 am
It’s kind of hard to spend money on FA’s for the Oline when the HC is telling you he has what he wants. Also we’ve spent 4 draft picks on Olineman which people in here think doesn’t matter if they’re not drafted in the 1st rnd. When we drafted Olineman in the 1st many were no better than the players we drafted in the 3rd and beyond. You can get players anywhere rnds1-7 and UDFA it doesn’t matter where you get them it matter that you get them. Every other position has players from rnds 1-7 why can’t Olineman be gotten the same way?
Some of our best Olineman ever weren’t drafted in the 1st rnd so it’s not a must that they be selected there. You do what you have to do and we have signed FA’s and traded for Olineman we’ve done everything you can possibly do. Yet you guys say we haven’t made it a priority. Well hell exactly how do you make it a priority beyond what we’ve done. Gallery was the 2nd overall selection we’ve taken them high and low. It boggles my mind when people say we haven’t made it a priority. Who did we select with the first draft pick this year and 2 out of the 1st three? If that’s not making it a priority what is?
Look Cable wasting time with Kwame Harris was his own choice and mixing and matching Olineman was his choice. He neevr gave a guy a position and let him learn that specific position and nothing else. IMO that is exactly what he did wrong and it was his undoing. We had just drafted 3 Olineman b4 he got here and he CUT ALL THREEE for his system and brought in a bunch of journeyman…….again his choice. Last year he wouldn’t play Bruce Campbell again his choice which got him fired. But his choice. Mr Davis IMO had seen enough and bounced him outta here. JMHO!!
June 1st, 2011 at 9:41 am
Maybe Rod Woodson can convince Nnamdi to stay and play out his last few elite CB years and show him how to transition to safety. Win-win situation.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:42 am
I don’t want to see LeBron succeed because that means the Lakers are not succeeding, but I would trade anyone on the Lakers for LeBron right this minute…no doubt about it.
I hated watching Jordan and the Bulls dominate the 1990s too. But I wanted Jordan on the Lakers no doubt about that either!
I didn’t particularly like Shaq (liked him a little for taking out Jordan), then I loved him with the Lakers, then I hated him.
It is all about loyalty to my team and players and their places in history.
Jordan pizzed me off because the media elevated him over Magic. LeBron pizzez me off because someday his career will be compared to Kobe’s. Duncan pizzed me off because he was being compared to Shaq. The Celtics just pizz me off period.
If the Lakers are not winning titles, then I don’t want anyone to win!
June 1st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I never thought I would say this and can’t believe I am. But Warren Sapp said Cable was not a HC and criticised him for not knowing the protections whether that is true or not I don’t know. But now I don’t dismiss it nearly as fast as I did b4.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:47 am
And just in case some of you don’t understand what he meant Sapp was talking about protections against certain blitz packages. He literally said Cable didn’t know them. Was it true???
June 1st, 2011 at 9:48 am
168.guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:28 am
There really was nobody other than maybe Pat Riley who could fill P. Jackson’s shoes. The transition out of the triangle offense is going to be a big change. I hear that Brown wants to turn the Lakers into a clone of the Spurs with twin towers underneath. Lakers going to need to add some sharpshooters to play this style. I bet there will be some wholesale personel changes coming to the Lakeshow. Transition or Rebuilding? or Re-”tooling”. hehehe…love that made up word.
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It isn’t about filling Jackson’s shoes….that is impossible, but that doesn’t mean just hire some guy that has proven to be clueless in the playoffs like Mike Brown!
The Lakers need a man with a plan, not some blowhard whose claim to fame is preaching good defense. An assistant coach can concentrate on the defense. The Lakers should have hired a guy who could install an offense to keep the game interesting and an assistant coach who could preach about defense. I have zero faith that Mike Brown can somehow copy the offense he saw used in SA when they had the twin towers.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:49 am
Gallery was a long time ago. And I agree that a line of nothing but first round picks is not practical, and wouldn’t necessarily yield better results. Maybe it was Cable’s doing to jettison some talent and choose some other journeymen O-linemen. But at the end of the day, what we got is a mix/match of mid rounders and now that Gallery’s gone, no real high draft pick. Now high draft pick status doesn’t ensure success, but it does tell you the relative talent level. From a pure talent level, our O-line is below average compared to the rest of the NFL.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:54 am
Cables coaching record in college: 11-35
Cables coaching record in the NFL: 17-27
So yeah, I could believe that blowhard Warren Sapp.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:59 am
178.priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I never thought I would say this and can’t believe I am. But Warren Sapp said Cable was not a HC and criticised him for not knowing the protections whether that is true or not I don’t know. But now I don’t dismiss it nearly as fast as I did b4.
179.priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:47 am
And just in case some of you don’t understand what he meant Sapp was talking about protections against certain blitz packages. He literally said Cable didn’t know them. Was it true???
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That may be true and that would be very sad if so….but you know what was even worse about the Cable situation Priest?
The fact that Al Davis decided to hand over the coaching reigns to the frikin idiot. Period. It all boils down to Al’s poor decision making.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:03 am
The bigger mistake was hiring Lane Kiffen and then having to get a shotgun wedding to Cable the yes man. And it can be traced back to the power struggle with Gruden. Some things are better left alone. Some fights are better avoided.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:04 am
You can only get so many players in the first rnd how you draft in rnds 2-7 it’s what determines what type of team you will have. Why people dismiss players in those rnds who play on the Oline is a mystery to me.
IMO that is where you draft Olineman it always has been. The 1st rnd I would draft my LT and that is it. Olineman can be gotten in rnds 3-7 and be just as good as those drafted earlier the same is true with Dlineman except elite pass rushers. Your LT and your pass rushing DE are the only ones I would definitely target in the 1st rnd unless you have a superstar at DT there you definitely take him. But G’s C’s and RT man you get them in the mid rnds almost always.
And that is predominantly what we’ve always done. Except for maybe Gene Upshaw.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:08 am
Dakota I agree not so much with Cable as I do with Kiffin that is what started it all. Cable was stop gap the day he hired him, he put him there until he could find a coach he wanted to work with. I’m almost sure that now looking with hindsight. He needed a caretaker that’s all Cable was.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:09 am
“New Raiders coach Hue Jackson hopes his commitment to excellence is contagious with players.
One of the main reasons so many players admire Oakland Raiders coach Hue Jackson is because of his frankness and his energy. He’s embraced his first head coaching job by espousing the tradition that’s gone wayward for much of this decade and made his intent very clear.
Just Win Baby.
Actually, Just Win Now Baby.
“This is going to be about the 2011 Raiders,” Jackson told NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks and me during the recording of our “Cover Two” podcast. “Not the 2012 Raiders. We have that expectation now. We’re not expecting to win two years from now, three years from now. We expect to win now.”
He then added some of that old-school Raiders zing to emphasize his point.
“You’ve got to be able to take that helmet and put it on somebody and that’s what we’re going to do.”
The lockout has prevented Jackson from delivering the directive to his players since communication is forbidden. Still, he said they seem to have gotten the message by spending much of last week training together in Atlanta.
“It tells me that the message I’ve been sending since the day I became head coach, that players are buying in — that there is an expectation here again in Oakland,” Jackson said. “We got a taste of it a year ago at 8-8. They know it’s all in working. There’s no magic to this at all. This thing is called hard work.”
I spent two days with Raiders players last week and they worked hard. It wasn’t simply seven-on-seven drills.
One thing that really stood out in watching them was how young the brunt of the guys on the team were. It was really apparent when Falcons players took the same high school practice field after the Raiders. Atlanta has a more veteran team and its players were all business. Sustained success breeds that swagger. They got on the field, did what they had to do — efficiently — and kept it moving.
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The Raiders looked more like the Falcons did a few years earlier when they started to gain traction. Granted, the Falcons have been working out for weeks and Oakland’s squad hadn’t assembled since the last game of the 2010 season. So there was a lot of re-connecting going on while they were working out.
Even so, the players talked a lot of what Jackson was preaching and that was being tougher in all facets. They also said they have bought into Jackson, even though he’s on his maiden voyage as a head coach. He was the offensive coordinator last season so a lot of them know his approach. They like it.
He comes at them straight with no chaser so the message isn’t mixed.
Just Win Now Baby.
Follow Steve Wyche on Twitter @wyche89.”
June 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am
I agree about taking an LT in the first round. And I would also take a good center in the first as well. The guards and RT’s can be had later (rounds 2 and 3), much later than that and it’s usually a crapshoot.
If Veldheer can hold down the LT spot, obviously that is a huge shot in the arm. As of now, we have him, and a crew of relatively inexperienced linemen. We’ll see how that plays out. I’d prefer a high dollar FA OL to come in and light a fire under the incumbent linemen.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:17 am
186.priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:08 am
Dakota I agree not so much with Cable as I do with Kiffin that is what started it all. Cable was stop gap the day he hired him, he put him there until he could find a coach he wanted to work with. I’m almost sure that now looking with hindsight. He needed a caretaker that’s all Cable was.
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Well, the Kiffin situation should have been dealt with in January of 2008, when Al Davis knew he no longer wanted Kiffin as his HC.
Instead he waited to gather more evidence and then sacrificed the entire 2009 season and set the table for having to hire an idiot like Tom Cable. If Al had simply done what he wanted to and fired Kiffin and took the couple of million dollar hit in early 2008 the Raiders could have conducted a legit search for a HC prior to that draft and avoided a Tom Cable altogether. Penny wise, pound stupid.
And you can’t tell me Cable was a caretaker when Al gave the guy very nearly three seasons. At Al’s age he couldn’t afford to waste three seasons.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:17 am
178.priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 9:43 am
I never thought I would say this and can’t believe I am. But Warren Sapp said Cable was not a HC and criticised him for not knowing the protections whether that is true or not I don’t know. But now I don’t dismiss it nearly as fast as I did b4.
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This scared me a bit when I read this the first time – and now it seems there was a lot of truth to it, but even a broken clock ir right twice a day.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:18 am
correction: and then sacrificed the entire 200(8) season…
June 1st, 2011 at 10:24 am
To be fair, the 2008 season would have been lost with any coach that had to attempt to coddle JaMarcus Russell to lead that team.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am
wake me up when lebron has 5 titles
June 1st, 2011 at 10:27 am
Setting the alarm clock for June 2015
June 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am
Chuck B will blitz the exact number of times AL wrote it into his contract, nothing more, nothing less.
The end.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:35 am
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
June 1st, 2011 at 10:43 am
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/5/30/2198023/2010-oakland-raiders
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Very interesting article
June 1st, 2011 at 10:47 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am
Chuck B will blitz the exact number of times AL wrote it into his contract, nothing more, nothing less.
The end.
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Timely blitzing…..but one thing Chuck B’s dlines stopped the run and did get pressure on qb….if chuck has us 15th or high vs the run and about 10th in sacks ill take less blitzing
June 1st, 2011 at 10:51 am
If JCamp were as good as Rich Gannon, I’d have no problem with Chuck B. But we don’t have that margin for error on offense anymore.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:52 am
Inonewordraider Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am
wake me up when lebron has 5 titles
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The LBJ hate is lame….he is the man. He did smartest thing for his career. No one made a crazy fuss over the Celtics getting the big 3 together. Were people running it thru the mud when the Lakers did that nice BS trade to get Gasol.
No you people are just afriad that the villain will win and your cowboy movie wont end the way you want it to.
They will not be losing for a minute to. Each year they will get vets that wanna win a title. Without a PG and true cetner they are 3 wins away from a title. Can you imagine when they get a complete roster? Its over rover
June 1st, 2011 at 10:53 am
One thing that the article doesn’t mention is that Mario is not happy with his role or his contract terms. But he hasn’t justified a new contract extension. He deserves a shot to compete to make the team, but handed nothing. If someone else wants to overpay for Mario, let him walk.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:54 am
As Vince Carter did after his dunk contest win, “its ovah” Time to crown the king.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:59 am
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:51 am
If JCamp were as good as Rich Gannon, I’d have no problem with Chuck B. But we don’t have that margin for error on offense anymore.
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Screw Gannon. Margin for error on offense? 10th ranked offense and averaged 26 pts a game with JC leading the offense. We dont need him to be an all pro QB. We just need vet guards on the oline,a bruising FB and a number 1 WR to complete things. QB im fine with
June 1st, 2011 at 11:01 am
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:54 am
As Vince Carter did after his dunk contest win, “its ovah” Time to crown the king.
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Last true dunk contest….Oakland 2000
June 1st, 2011 at 11:03 am
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:53 am
One thing that the article doesn’t mention is that Mario is not happy with his role or his contract terms. But he hasn’t justified a new contract extension. He deserves a shot to compete to make the team, but handed nothing. If someone else wants to overpay for Mario, let him walk.
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Mario prolly stays here to compete for some spot. Likely just a backup. In power scheme can he realistically be a road grader at RT? I dont think so but he may not never start in NFL again so he better take hold of it now
June 1st, 2011 at 11:04 am
Last true dunk contest….Oakland 2000
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I remember it well Bauce Rules, I agree!
Vince killed the contest. Made it so anyone else would not even want to compete in it. Dunk contest should be retired. No point in watching it anymore.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:06 am
Walker, Barnes, Mario are probably all gone. We need to bring in some new guys soon.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:13 am
LOL @ Dallas Jason Terry getting a Larry O’Brien tattoo to help him get motivated to win the series against the Heat. Hope he has some sandpaper, that’s gonna hurt!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Jason-Terry-s-championship-trophy-tattoo-may-not?urn=nba-wp4026
June 1st, 2011 at 11:13 am
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:04 am
Last true dunk contest….Oakland 2000
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I remember it well Bauce Rules, I agree!
Vince killed the contest. Made it so anyone else would not even want to compete in it. Dunk contest should be retired. No point in watching it anymore.
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Fa sho mayne that is absolute truth
June 1st, 2011 at 11:15 am
“Last true dunk contest….Oakland 2000″
Last dunk contest? every game I watch is a bunch of overrated athletes dunking on each other and not playing defense.
I would rather watch Canadian womens curling.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:19 am
666-touche!!!
June 1st, 2011 at 11:20 am
NBA season is too long anyways
June 1st, 2011 at 11:24 am
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:06 am
Walker, Barnes, Mario are probably all gone. We need to bring in some new guys soon.
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Best thing to do is slice em all but Al will keep one
June 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:15 am
“Last true dunk contest….Oakland 2000″
Last dunk contest? every game I watch is a bunch of overrated athletes dunking on each other and not playing defense.
I would rather watch Canadian womens curling.
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I disagree here……they srent overrated athletes at all. Problem with NBA is those guys dont try playing for real until mid February. The first 3 months are always pretty damn terrible IMO
June 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am
Bauce
Are these real athletes?
http://www.canada.com/sports/2010wintergames/curling/Curling+Heroes/1222635/story.html
June 1st, 2011 at 11:35 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am
Bauce
Are these real athletes?
http://www.canada.com/sports/2010wintergames/curling/Curling+Heroes/1222635/story.html
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I dont get your point here
June 1st, 2011 at 11:50 am
The NBA is a black league, basically. And, because the athletes are black, they say they are overrated. Because everybody knows any damn black person can jump out the guy, right, 666.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:51 am
I said “I would rather watch Canadian womens curling.”
Than the NBA so I ask you if these are “real” athletes?
June 1st, 2011 at 11:52 am
Bauce, you and 666 probably belong to the same klan.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:53 am
LOL @ Dallas Jason Terry getting a Larry O’Brien tattoo to help him get motivated to win the series against the Heat. Hope he has some sandpaper, that’s gonna hurt!
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are you series?
this guy has LAKER written all over him. did you see that flop late in the 4th from the 3 point line when he missed badly and there wasn’t anybody within 6 feet from him? he was p1ssed at the refs for the “no-call” the final 5-10 minutes of the game … LOL
June 1st, 2011 at 11:53 am
correction: serious (not series)
June 1st, 2011 at 11:54 am
KK
I think we are all sick of your racial comments you hateful little troll.
There is no one else in here that can turn a simple conversation racial like you.
Are you constipated again?
June 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am
*correction
The NBA is a black league, basically. And, because the athletes are black, they say they are overrated. Because everybody knows any damn black person can jump out of the gym, right, 666.
June 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am
The NBA is a black league
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Kell,
Oops – somebody forgot to tell Dirk, Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby & Mike Miller!
what were they doing on the court last night?
playing chess ???
June 1st, 2011 at 11:56 am
Why is everything you post about race do you know, it is that kind of ignorance that keeps racism alive?
You are not very bright are you?
June 1st, 2011 at 11:56 am
666
Any damm black person can dunk a basketball right? It doesn’t take any athletic ability to dunk a basketball.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
KK is just angry because his nurse has not changed his adult diapers after his morning metamucil. so he crapped himself and is feeling uncomfortable in his own feces.
But then again crapping oneself may be a racial slur because only minorities crap their adult diapers last time I checked?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:51 am
I said “I would rather watch Canadian womens curling.”
Than the NBA so I ask you if these are “real” athletes?
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That’s what you would do 666, but I wouldnt. You not gonna tell me 6′8 250 lb guys with that kind of conditioning arent athletes. Basketball players athletically speaking are superior to everyone. Yeah they have bad attitudes and some are quite stupid but that cant take away their ability under no circumstances.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
“It doesn’t take any athletic ability to dunk a basketball.”
If you are 7 feet tall no.
If you are 5′10″ then yes.
last time I checked short and tall people come in all different colors, races and religious groups.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Walker, Barnes, Mario are probably all gone. We need to bring in some new guys soon
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Agreed with G123
Assuming the starting five are Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale means that all we have for depth is Alex Parsons & Roy Schuening (Carlisle will be cut)
If Cooper Carlisle keeps the RG spot and Bruce Campbell plays RT then I guess you can add Joe Barksdale to the depth/reserve list
If CC gets axed and we don’t bring in anything but practice squad calibur guys and undrafted rookies … that’ll make Dan Loper the veteran mentor of the group and he only has 9 career starts in 6 NFL seasons
Yikes!!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 11:52 am
Bauce, you and 666 probably belong to the same klan.
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LOL you got problems buddy. How was your holiday weekend?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“Basketball players athletically speaking are superior to everyone.”
You are way off base here the NFL has the best athletes hands down, not even close.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Bauce
“LOL you got problems buddy”
You are just now figuring that out?
The guy is off his meds for one day and we all suffer with 100 posts of our record over the last 8 years and a racial spin put on every post.
I blame it on his nurse for not giving him proper care.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
“It doesn’t take any athletic ability to dunk a basketball.”
If you are 7 feet tall no.
If you are 5′10″ then yes.
last time I checked short and tall people come in all different colors, races and religious groups.
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But alot of the best players ever werent 7 feet tall. And it doesnt matter if a guy is 7 feet tall. If he sucks then he sucks. Size helps but you better have some skills to match it or the height is useless…..ok how bout this, have you ever whooped someone that was bigger and badder than you?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Looking at the Chargers worst moments since 1987
Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)
The team-by-team tour of the worst moments for each NFL franchise since the last work stoppage took us today to sunny (we assume) San Diego, where the local football team has from time to time performed just well enough to rip out the hearts of the fan base.
We’ve picked the four worst moments, and Wednesday’s PFT Live counted them down from four to one.
After you’ve finished watching the clip, feel free to find a quiet spot where you can don a helmet with a dark visor and pout.
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LOL!!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“Basketball players athletically speaking are superior to everyone.”
You are way off base here the NFL has the best athletes hands down, not even close.
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Not even buddy. NFL is limited my friend. Its the best spectator sport no doubt but you can literally have zero athleticism to a tiny bit and be a star.
Basketball you are running up and down the court alot and those big suckers are moving fast. NFL the play stops constantly penalty or not. I mean how long is a play for a QB?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I am done with the basketball stuff I don’t watch it so I do not have enough BBall knowledge to argue with you. I was just trying to be an smart azz and get KK feathers all ruffled up. It worked so now I am done.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Bauce
“LOL you got problems buddy”
You are just now figuring that out?
The guy is off his meds for one day and we all suffer with 100 posts of our record over the last 8 years and a racial spin put on every post.
I blame it on his nurse for not giving him proper care.
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I dont know man…..guy is very weird
June 1st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com reports that tackle Jared Veldheer organized three days of workouts for a total of eight Raiders offensive linemen, including starters Cooper Carlisle and Samson Satele. The sessions were conducted in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
“A couple of guys had called me and I think were stressed out over the offseason uncertainty and not seeing each other,” Veldheer said. “They expressed that they wanted to get together, do some football drills and talk shop.
“It’s been tough. You’re used to seeing the same guys every day. Now, you don’t see them and don’t know when you’re going to see them again.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com
June 1st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I am done with the basketball stuff I don’t watch it so I do not have enough BBall knowledge to argue with you. I was just trying to be an smart azz and get KK feathers all ruffled up. It worked so now I am done.
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Legit move brother….,KK falls into traps easy. A big boss such as him shouldnt waste time on us lower tax bracket folk
June 1st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
oh snap!!!
Shaq retired
June 1st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I would even go as far as to say that Hockey has better athletes they move a lot faster “skating is faster than a human can run” so the hits are harder.
Like I said I don’t watch enough basketball to wage a good war with you so I retire the subject.
Back to he angry racist KK and constipation.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com reports that tackle Jared Veldheer organized three days of workouts for a total of eight Raiders offensive linemen, including starters Cooper Carlisle and Samson Satele. The sessions were conducted in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
“A couple of guys had called me and I think were stressed out over the offseason uncertainty and not seeing each other,” Veldheer said. “They expressed that they wanted to get together, do some football drills and talk shop.
“It’s been tough. You’re used to seeing the same guys every day. Now, you don’t see them and don’t know when you’re going to see them again.”
http://www.raidernationstation.com
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I like Veldheer take a lead like that but Carlisle doesnt need to play in Oakland again. Satele is a backup center. Dont even play him at guard
June 1st, 2011 at 12:18 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
oh snap!!!
Shaq retired
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Shaq retired after game 6 of the 2006 finals. You didnt know?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Bauce,
I think KK is in real estate….so he may be in a lower tax bracket than you and I now with the market the way it is.
I clean toilets at the taco bell and one day I will be assistant manager!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I would even go as far as to say that Hockey has better athletes they move a lot faster “skating is faster than a human can run” so the hits are harder.
Like I said I don’t watch enough basketball to wage a good war with you so I retire the subject.
Back to he angry racist KK and constipation.
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Deep seeded issues. I make my wise cracks and can talk crap with the rest of them but overall I am cool dude and would rather be cool with most eventhough we dont share same views. Kell on other hand is a tyrant on this blog. Very bitter, cold and an extremely unlikeable person
June 1st, 2011 at 12:22 pm
That may be true and that would be very sad if so….but you know what was even worse about the Cable situation Priest?
The fact that Al Davis decided to hand over the coaching reigns to the frikin idiot. Period. It all boils down to Al’s poor decision making.
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This hits it right on the head! I still wish it had worked with Kiffin though. It sucks he was such a jerk, but the guy was pretty good. You could see he had a plan, especially for JR. That young offensive staff was a good match for him. And in hindsight, would it have been all that bad bringing his dad in as the DC? Al really fcked up.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Shaq retired after game 6 of the 2006 finals. You didnt know?
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HAHA!
yeah man – the Suns, Cavs & Celtics didn’t get ‘Shaq Diesel’
June 1st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Bauce,
I think KK is in real estate….so he may be in a lower tax bracket than you and I now with the market the way it is.
I clean toilets at the taco bell and one day I will be assistant manager!
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LOL the Louie Anderson is “Coming to America”………..and that’s when the big buck’s starting rolling in
June 1st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
start*
June 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Favre joined pro football in 1991
Shaq joined pro basketball in 1992
dang.
I wonder how many Raider fans on this blog weren’t even born yet back then?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:22 pm
That may be true and that would be very sad if so….but you know what was even worse about the Cable situation Priest?
The fact that Al Davis decided to hand over the coaching reigns to the frikin idiot. Period. It all boils down to Al’s poor decision making.
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This hits it right on the head! I still wish it had worked with Kiffin though. It sucks he was such a jerk, but the guy was pretty good. You could see he had a plan, especially for JR. That young offensive staff was a good match for him. And in hindsight, would it have been all that bad bringing his dad in as the DC? Al really fcked up.
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No man no. JR’s skill set was a bad match for Kiffin. Now I dont like Kiffin but he was right that JR stunk. JR running damn near same version of Gruden’s offense is not a match. That is where Al messed up. I sadly wanted to draft Brady Quinn lol. But that is only because we were running a WCO. Makes more sense right?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Favre joined pro football in 1991
Shaq joined pro basketball in 1992
dang.
I wonder how many Raider fans on this blog weren’t even born yet back then?
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Some of the people on this blog who were alive then still dont know shhht
June 1st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Coming to America” is funny as hell…
I especially like the bath girls!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
About time Shaq….now make up with Dr. Buss and get your jersey retired as a Laker.
But no statue for you!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
It was Chuck B that sent C Wood on that corner blitz after T Brady in the tuck game!
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:47 am
Timely blitzing…..but one thing Chuck B’s dlines stopped the run and did get pressure on qb….if chuck has us 15th or high vs the run and about 10th in sacks ill take less blitzing
June 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Coming to America” is funny as hell…
I especially like the bath girls!
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As an alleged racist by the two blog goats we cant like that movie or the scene with the bath girls. They are black women and we know Kell is against that as well
June 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
The closest thing you’ve gotten to a real woman right, OakGlen?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Coming to America” is funny as hell…
I especially like the bath girls!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Dakota Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
About time Shaq….now make up with Dr. Buss and get your jersey retired as a Laker.
But no statue for you!
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“DAKOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAA! I’M THE DIESEL AND I’LL BEAT THE LIVING FK OUTTA YOU……CAN YOU DIG ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?!”
June 1st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“Basketball players athletically speaking are superior to everyone.”
You are way off base here the NFL has the best athletes hands down, not even close.
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Not even buddy. NFL is limited my friend. Its the best spectator sport no doubt but you can literally have zero athleticism to a tiny bit and be a star.
Basketball you are running up and down the court alot and those big suckers are moving fast. NFL the play stops constantly penalty or not. I mean how long is a play for a QB?
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If we’re talking about raw athleticism (size/speed), I’d still go with football. But overall, basketball has the best athletes because they are so skilled. Can’t think of one NFL player that could start in the NBA. Meanwhile, you’ve got guys who played basketball in college that weren’t even stars (McNabb, Gonzalez and Peppers) who are likely HOF NFL players.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
It was Chuck B that sent C Wood on that corner blitz after T Brady in the tuck game!
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 10:47 am
Timely blitzing…..but one thing Chuck B’s dlines stopped the run and did get pressure on qb….if chuck has us 15th or high vs the run and about 10th in sacks ill take less blitzing
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Nnamdi never would had mad eit to hit Brdy with his slow ass.
Timely blitzing is all I ask for. Sadly Bresnahan messed up in 2000 after two consecutive sacks vs bmore. He didnt run the sticks formation on 3rd and 18. We had field position and were gonna put alot of pressure on them. Wasnt meant to be I guess
June 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm
ouch…..made it*…….Brady*
June 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm
259.Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Dakota Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
About time Shaq….now make up with Dr. Buss and get your jersey retired as a Laker.
But no statue for you!
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“DAKOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAA! I’M THE DIESEL AND I’LL BEAT THE LIVING FK OUTTA YOU……CAN YOU DIG ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?!”
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Still no statue…..sorry, you blew it.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Bauce…..Now thats funny.
Sista Brown Eye why is it every day you call me a different name are you looking for someone a lost love maybe or someone who hurt your little chat feelings here one day?
Whatever the case may be you are the most uneducated babbling meth addict here on this Blog. Nothing you write makes any sense at all.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“Basketball players athletically speaking are superior to everyone.”
You are way off base here the NFL has the best athletes hands down, not even close.
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Not even buddy. NFL is limited my friend. Its the best spectator sport no doubt but you can literally have zero athleticism to a tiny bit and be a star.
Basketball you are running up and down the court alot and those big suckers are moving fast. NFL the play stops constantly penalty or not. I mean how long is a play for a QB?
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If we’re talking about raw athleticism (size/speed), I’d still go with football. But overall, basketball has the best athletes because they are so skilled. Can’t think of one NFL player that could start in the NBA. Meanwhile, you’ve got guys who played basketball in college that weren’t even stars (McNabb, Gonzalez and Peppers) who are likely HOF NFL players.
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Raw brute strength its football guys but overall running speed and agility and so forth basektball guys aint gonna be beat when you break it down. You really underestimate how difficult is it to score vs guys like LBJ, WADE and Howard
June 1st, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I’ve read a lot of scouting services and DMoore was rated in most of them in the top 15-18 rec’s in the draft and we got him inthe 5th rnd. That’s ahead of players like Jeremy Kerley who I like a lot. I think this kid might be one of the better players in this draft for us
RRS also said we got nothing as rec’s in the draft calling JLH and DMoore a wash. I disagree I think JLH definitely needs a change of scenery. I’m not sure he’s an NFL player anymore, and getting DMoore IMO was a good get. He’s extremely talented a pure WR young and hasn’t taken those huge hits JLH took. Not to mention he is much bigger than JLH 185 solid 195 with the frame to get bigger. He makes plays that I never seen JLH make so lets wait a while b4 calling that a wash.
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TJ,
I’m not hating on Denarius Moore. I just don’t think he’ll be any better than Johnnie Lee. DHB was a Top 15 WR in the draft, too. (35 catches in 25 starts)
Arman Shields, Chaz Schilens, JLH, Holland, Kevin McMahon, Carlos Francis, Johnnie Morant, Doug Gabriel, Ryan Hoag, Ken-yon Rambo, Dameane Douglas & Olanda Truitt were also mid to late round WR’s who you probably thought would make an impact !!!
Most 5th rounders end up being the 4th or 5th WR on the 53 man roster. Maybe get cut or find a place on the practice squad.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Denarius Morre is an ubnknown but he aint a number one for 2011. Better get a vet WR
June 1st, 2011 at 12:43 pm
No man no. JR’s skill set was a bad match for Kiffin. Now I dont like Kiffin but he was right that JR stunk. JR running damn near same version of Gruden’s offense is not a match. That is where Al messed up. I sadly wanted to draft Brady Quinn lol. But that is only because we were running a WCO. Makes more sense right?
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I disagree. JR has an otherworldly skillset that isn’t limited to any one system. That’s why he went #1 overall. And with Cable and Knapp on staff, we were basically running the Denver Bronco’s offense with all the boots and zone blocking. Even with the garbage we had on the OL and at WR, JR was starting to look real good toward the end of 2008. That’s why I at least wanted to keep those guys together, even if Cable was the HC.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:44 pm
DHB = 35 catches in 25 starts
JLH = 57 catches in 11 starts
LOL!
June 1st, 2011 at 12:44 pm
unknown*…..dammit
June 1st, 2011 at 12:45 pm
“If we’re talking about raw athleticism (size/speed), I’d still go with football. But overall, basketball has the best athletes because they are so skilled. Can’t think of one NFL player that could start in the NBA.”
The only thing I can think of is that there is a womens basketball league and there will never be a womens football league.
Again I don’t know enough about basketball to give you a good argument so its opinion based at this point.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
No man no. JR’s skill set was a bad match for Kiffin. Now I dont like Kiffin but he was right that JR stunk. JR running damn near same version of Gruden’s offense is not a match. That is where Al messed up. I sadly wanted to draft Brady Quinn lol. But that is only because we were running a WCO. Makes more sense right?
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If he can be as good as the 2008 version of JLH, sign me up.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:44 pm
DHB = 35 catches in 25 starts
JLH = 57 catches in 11 starts
LOL!
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Please, look JLH didnt workout here and I wish him the best and believe he will still be in the NFL for the next few years. He came out of UTEP known as a playmaker. DHB aint shhhht and never will be shhht. F it I have to say it. This guy is gonna make how many millions this season?
June 1st, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
I’m not hating on Denarius Moore. I just don’t think he’ll be any better than Johnnie Lee. DHB was a Top 15 WR in the draft, too. (35 catches in 25 starts)
Arman Shields, Chaz Schilens, JLH, Holland, Kevin McMahon, Carlos Francis, Johnnie Morant, Doug Gabriel, Ryan Hoag, Ken-yon Rambo, Dameane Douglas & Olanda Truitt were also mid to late round WR’s who you probably thought would make an impact !!!
Most 5th rounders end up being the 4th or 5th WR on the 53 man roster. Maybe get cut or find a place on the practice squad.
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RRS, I agree.
I hope I am wrong about Moore, but the only thing I like about him are his hands. At the NFL level to get on the field, you have to be able to create space. I doubt that he has the natural speed/talent to do it consistently at the higher level against world class corners. Other slower guys like Marques Colston did it. But then again, J Camp is no Drew Brees. It’s a long shot, and I think Moore is a guy that gets a handful of snaps if any at all this season.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:45 pm
“If we’re talking about raw athleticism (size/speed), I’d still go with football. But overall, basketball has the best athletes because they are so skilled. Can’t think of one NFL player that could start in the NBA.”
The only thing I can think of is that there is a womens basketball league and there will never be a womens football league.
Again I don’t know enough about basketball to give you a good argument so its opinion based at this point.
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Only women’s sports I watch are college volleyball and college softball…..no BS
Women’s football? Lingerie Football League is dope! We dont need a full on WNFL like WNBA. It just would never sell.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
JLH never recovered from that he hit he took in SD. He needs a change of scenery. He may never get back his mojo.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
I’m not hating on Denarius Moore. I just don’t think he’ll be any better than Johnnie Lee. DHB was a Top 15 WR in the draft, too. (35 catches in 25 starts)
Arman Shields, Chaz Schilens, JLH, Holland, Kevin McMahon, Carlos Francis, Johnnie Morant, Doug Gabriel, Ryan Hoag, Ken-yon Rambo, Dameane Douglas & Olanda Truitt were also mid to late round WR’s who you probably thought would make an impact !!!
Most 5th rounders end up being the 4th or 5th WR on the 53 man roster. Maybe get cut or find a place on the practice squad.
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RRS, I agree.
I hope I am wrong about Moore, but the only thing I like about him are his hands. At the NFL level to get on the field, you have to be able to create space. I doubt that he has the natural speed/talent to do it consistently at the higher level against world class corners. Other slower guys like Marques Colston did it. But then again, J Camp is no Drew Brees. It’s a long shot, and I think Moore is a guy that gets a handful of snaps if any at all this season.
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The plan for the 2011 season is to not only win the division but be a contender for the crown. With JC you think some young rookie WR will do that as the number 1? Let’s be honest…..Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
June 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:49 pm
JLH never recovered from that he hit he took in SD. He needs a change of scenery. He may never get back his mojo.
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Yeah I really liked JLH. Weddle smacked the confidence out of him. Then Ford came and outplayed him. He still can make plays and can catch the ball. Some team will sign him for sure
June 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
DHB, 35 catches in 25 starts! Man that is pathetic! He needs to know that the exit door is waiting for him if he can’t get the production up. I hope this experiment to convert a track star to a WR ends soon. Not the first time we failed at this.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
DHB, 35 catches in 25 starts! Man that is pathetic! He needs to know that the exit door is waiting for him if he can’t get the production up. I hope this experiment to convert a track star to a WR ends soon. Not the first time we failed at this.
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Yeah….schit is rather embarrassing now. He isnt a number 1 and wont get 60 rec for you this season.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
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Line em up with Murphy on the opposite side and Ford in the slot. Cut DHB.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
JLH SUCKS PERIOD
June 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
I do love watching womens volleyball and cheer leading competitions.
There are a few hotties that play softball but most of them are thick.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
JR’s skill set….
Is this a joke? I thought that was a rumor.
June 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
big oak boy Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
JLH SUCKS PERIOD
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he didnt always
June 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Denarius Morre is an ubnknown but he aint a number one for 2011. Better get a vet WR
the key to going to the playoffs if we ignore this bring in the next coach
June 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Whats not to like about this…..
http://www.onlytoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/top-10-most-dangerous-sports-cheerleading.jpg
June 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
big oak boy Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
JLH SUCKS PERIOD
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he didnt always
i guess that hit he took knocked the talent out of him
June 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
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Line em up with Murphy on the opposite side and Ford in the slot. Cut DHB.
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Exactly how you help JC out
June 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Whats not to like about this…..
http://www.onlytoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/top-10-most-dangerous-sports-cheerleading.jpg
their ribs are sticking out to much and girls that skinny only like little d_ick willies
June 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
I do love watching womens volleyball and cheer leading competitions.
There are a few hotties that play softball but most of them are thick.
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I have a personal sentimental thing going on with the UCLA women’s softball team stretching back to my college days
June 1st, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
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Line em up with Murphy on the opposite side and Ford in the slot. Cut DHB.
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Exactly how you help JC out
we might be on a budget so u must throw a cheap T.O in that pot or if we arent on a budget take a jets WR
June 1st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Big Oak Boy Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
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Line em up with Murphy on the opposite side and Ford in the slot. Cut DHB.
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Exactly how you help JC out
we might be on a budget so u must throw a cheap T.O in that pot or if we arent on a budget take a jets WR
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No thanks to TO
June 1st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Big Oak Boy Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Whats not to like about this…..
http://www.onlytoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/top-10-most-dangerous-sports-cheerleading.jpg
their ribs are sticking out to much and girls that skinny only like little d_ick willies
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Say what you wanna say bruh but that super thick shhht is super played out. Them thickies be getting bloated lol and them in shape thin ones will surprise you cutty
June 1st, 2011 at 1:11 pm
anyhow yall stay solid…..im out mayne
June 1st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Big Oak Boy
I get it, you like men not women.
Here is one for you:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ja_AQ8Nxukc/TCIPPWmy18I/AAAAAAAABJY/rHSD0vw_iDg/s1600/malecheerleader.jpg
June 1st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
“cutty” are u from vallejo
June 1st, 2011 at 1:16 pm
DEBO never gets tired of JR’s balls wackin him on the chin.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Silverandblack666
that’s funny but im in a relationship u would dream of its called me my girlfriend and our girlfriend
so go f_uck yourself might make u feel better
i hate gay jokes from closet fa_ggs
June 1st, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Supplemental Draft?
Anybody know anything about Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State?
June 1st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
666 you obviously have never tried to dunk a basketball if you don’t think it takes athletic ability. You ever watch someone who’s totally unathletic try to, it’s not pretty.
Basketball players are by far the best athletes walking the planet. Them and decathletes when you see Doc J, David Thompson, MJ, Wilt Chamberlain and Kareem if you don’t think they are. You just don’t know an athlete when you see one. Take a look the new kid on the Clippers he’s 6′10″ 260+ and is as agile as a 5′10″ 170 lbs. man. They are flat out freaks of nature. You best TE’s are ex-bbl players watch when you see David Ausberry do things no 6′4″ 250 should be able to because he played hoops. And then run a 4.5 in pads.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Big Oak Boy
Don’t get all upset and lose your temper over words on a computer screen. I don’t have a girlfriend because I clean toilets at the taco bell and who would date a fast food janitor?
So your imaginary relationship is fun to brag about on a Blog but in reality I see your homosexual tendencies showing and would like to help you get that all figured out. There are support groups out there for people who feel like you do. try 1-800-turd burglar and spill your heart out to the first queen that answers the phone
June 1st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Priesttj
I have admitted several times in here today that I don’t know much about basketball. Except that there is a womens league.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
tj the whiffer, how many catches & TD’s from your hero DHB this season?
June 1st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Don’t get all upset and lose your temper over words on a computer screen. I don’t have a girlfriend because I clean toilets at the taco bell and who would date a fast food janitor?
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Kinda funny, that many dudes would have no problem dating a hot girl who was a janitor at a Taco Bell…Heck, it may be a plus, all those free tacos.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
281.guest123 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Chad,Burress or smith and lets get it over it
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Line em up with Murphy on the opposite side and Ford in the slot. Cut DHB.
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I agree his DHBs numbers have be horrid, but I’d still want to see if he steps up his third year. We could always just restructure his deal and just use him like a taller James jett
June 1st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
tj, during a lockout with nothing going on you are enthused enough to spend 12-15 hours a day in here repeating the same tired lines and calling everybody dumb bells & ding a lings…between calling radio stations of course.
Question,
What did you do with your life before this ?
June 1st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I’m also curious to see how these young speedster receivers can ball once we get a true Possession receiver in the WR corps.
Will they create mismatches if there’s a guy with hieght and hands on the other side?
June 1st, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Bauce if they cut DHB who ever did it would get fired. You don’t cut a kid as young as he is until you have exhausted all efforts. You’ll learn that soon enough because it’ll come bakc to bite ya’. That is how the Raiders biult teams in the past from other teams cutting talent b4 they develope.
Look at JC, Wimbley, CJ and many many others you have to be sure and he’s going into his 3rd year. Just watch what happens.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:40 pm
the third year may not mean much if they don’t get this lock out thing settled. Then he’ll have another unproductive year at the Raiders.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Let me add Jarvis Moss to that list, I think this kid was just way to young and is coming into his own. If he pans out we have an edge rusher for a Cab Calloway song. Something teams pay upwards $30 mill to get this kid could do for us what Aldon Smith has to do for the niners.
June 1st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
tj,
I have an idea!
Why dont you say every player that joins the Raiders is great that way if one does pan out you can pound your chest and say “see I told ya so, you ding a lings dont know sh!t”?
Oh..ummm..oooops, you are already doing that
June 1st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RaiderTalk People laugh at James Jett but they don’t realize he was an undrafted FA and beat out Rocket Ishmael to play as a rookie. His problem is he never got any better. But at that price I’ll take it.
If DHB takes off whihc I think he will you have a legitimate rec. who’s next to impossible to cover. The kid is 6′2″ 220 runs a 4.25 you will have nightmares matching up. You have JFord in the slot who still needs to learn the position. If Chaz plays hlaf a season that’s a boatload of trouble.
June 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“I think he will you have a legitimate rec. who’s next to impossible to cover. The kid is 6′2″ 220 runs a 4.25 you will have nightmares matching up. You have JFord in the slot who still needs to learn the position. If Chaz plays hlaf a season that’s a boatload of trouble.”
This is exactly what Al Davis thinks and this is exactly why we will not sign a veteran WR even if guys like Steve smith are out there.
June 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Big Oak Boy
Don’t get all upset and lose your temper over words on a computer screen. I don’t have a girlfriend because I clean toilets at the taco bell and who would date a fast food janitor?
So your imaginary relationship is fun to brag about on a Blog but in reality I see your homosexual tendencies showing and would like to help you get that all figured out. There are support groups out there for people who feel like you do. try 1-800-turd burglar and spill your heart out to the first queen that answers the phone
yawn
still telling gay jokes and know i dont need your home phone # now back to football
June 1st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
@313
Yeah I think this WR corp is finally close to being a real threat if we can just get a possession receiver will height for third downs and endzone.
The jury should still be out on DHB. I want to see if there is any progress in year 3.
June 1st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Silverandblack666
good point on steve smith plus we are a team he wants to come play 4
June 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
We have the guy in Chaz at some point the kid is going to hav a year. If not I think Murphy going into his 3rd season will more than make up for it. And I’ll wait on the rookiees.
June 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
if they bring back stick-um he would be the best in yrs or maybe he should tape the fingers like Tim brown did
June 1st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Big Oak Boy
Good to see you don’t take this bog too serious. Like you said back to football….
Steve Smith wants to come here and I bet he would take a pay cut to do it but I think that our owner feels like her has enough talent at the WR position.
But with a sub par WR coach “Sanjay” I got to think we are lacking leadership at the WR position.
June 1st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
We have the guy in Chaz at some point the kid is going to hav a year. If not I think Murphy going into his 3rd season will more than make up for it. And I’ll wait on the rookiees
trade this injury prone player for a real threat like Steve smith so ford can truly be instructed buy a vet with the same quality’s then go after burress or chad Johnson
June 1st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Big Oak Boy
Good to see you don’t take this bog too serious. Like you said back to football….
never its not like people in here have pics to say hey Im going to kick u a$$
we are here to voice opinions period
June 1st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
666, you still here “amusing” your dumbass?
June 1st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
KK
Are you still constipated, did you get your sponge bath yet today?
June 1st, 2011 at 2:43 pm
dam the A’s are disappointing they are becoming the worst team in baseball
June 1st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
brian fuentes kill yourself
June 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Lol….game not going well Big Oak?
June 1st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
4-2 Yankers top of the 8th
June 1st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
4-2 Yankers top of the 8th
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Who are you, the dimly lit scoreboard?
June 1st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Dakota Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Lol….game not going well Big Oak?
5 out away from a sweep by the damn yankees
June 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
These WR’s don’t need a vet WR to teach them the game now they know enough to be good. They’re not rookies if we bring in a vet bring inn some one who can play. Chaz Murphy DHB know enough now Ford is playing the slot which he needs to learn but a vet is not needed for that kid he has the wherewithall to do it. Bring in someone who can play. THat aint Chaz and T.O. will just be looking for a payday. If you’re going to do that get a player in his prime.
Steve Smith is done so is Chad so is T.O. on this team they are a waste. I’d prefer the young guys get those snaps.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
666, why would S. Smith take a pay cut to come to Oakland?
June 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Who needs a proven vet WR when you have scrubs like Schillens, Murphy, and DHB?
Ding a lings
June 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
big oak boy Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Big Oak Boy
Good to see you don’t take this bog too serious. Like you said back to football….
never its not like people in here have pics to say hey Im going to kick u a$$
we are here to voice opinions period
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Some using facts, reason, logic and compassion, others…not so much…
June 1st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I have a personal sentimental thing going on with the UCLA women’s softball team stretching back to my college days
………
Yeah, I read the arrest report.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
TJ
Quite frankly, your player evaluations have been garbage.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
We have no possession receiver. We have one deep threat, Jacoby Ford. He was by accident. Because Al just drafts for speed, couldn’t spot a set of hands if his life depended on it. All secondaries have to do is jam our receivers up underneath, with a couple of safeties deep. 2 man under, same defense we run. that’s why Al uses is, he thinks every team is using the 1960s vertical game. He’s crazy. Obviously .
June 1st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
We should let the Saints do our WR drafting they have studs 3 or 4 deep at all times. We have drafted 2 good WR’s in the last 20 years and Ford is not even proven after only 3/4 of 1 year under his belt.
T Brown & J Ford.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
priesttj Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
These WR’s don’t need a vet WR to teach them the game now they know enough to be good. They’re not rookies if we bring in a vet bring inn some one who can play. Chaz Murphy DHB know enough now Ford is playing the slot which he needs to learn but a vet is not needed for that kid he has the wherewithall to do it. Bring in someone who can play. THat aint Chaz and T.O. will just be looking for a payday. If you’re going to do that get a player in his prime.
Steve Smith is done so is Chad so is T.O. on this team they are a waste. I’d prefer the young guys get those snaps.
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“Some using facts, reason, logic and compassion, others…not so much…”
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See above for case in point:
“They already know enuff to be good.”
Yeah, I’m sure SanJay Lal in his 2nd year of coaching WR’s at any level has these clearly developmental draft picks taught up with all they’d ever need to know.
I agree T.O. is a no no, same with Smith but Chad, if the price is right is a positive influence and a proven commodity. He may be on the decline but I’ll bet you he knows more about how to train and play the position than Mr. Lal.
You say no to these vets but who do you suggest as a “vet” WR that can contribute big, not cost double digit millions and actually not be a prima donna A hole?
June 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Nnamdi, did you see the latest report?
Record:
44 mil Americans on food stamps.
Purple lips biggest accomplishment as pres!
June 1st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
We have no possession receiver. We have one deep threat, Jacoby Ford. He was by accident. Because Al just drafts for speed, couldn’t spot a set of hands if his life depended on it. All secondaries have to do is jam our receivers up underneath, with a couple of safeties deep. 2 man under, same defense we run. that’s why Al uses is, he thinks every team is using the 1960s vertical game. He’s crazy. Obviously .
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12 teams passed for over 4,000 yds last year. First time in history.
Raiders pass defense? 2nd in the League.
June 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
340. yawn…bait some one else.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:01 pm
The Raiders pass defense was ranked 2nd, in notably the worst year for pass defenses in the NFL? Sounds about right, Nnamdi.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:04 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Record:
44 mil Americans on food stamps.
Purple lips biggest accomplishment as pres!
…………
That and killing Bin Laden.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Yeah, I read the arrest report.
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Pretty damn funny there Mr.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:12 pm
We have no possession receiver. We have one deep threat, Jacoby Ford. He was by accident.
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Sad but true. Hopefully Chaz can play that role. We know Murphy is scared over the middle and Ford is too small. DHB…whatever.
Would be nice to get a Vet WR to teach the boys a few things. TK and the boys played much better once Seymour got here. Even TK admitted he learned from Sey on how to prepare for the game during the week and on gameday.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
That and killing Bin Laden.
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I think you better put an alert out to Golden Gate Bridge for Mrs. Brown once they make it official Obie will get 4 more years.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:16 pm
why do people act like a guy who have been to the super bowl isn’t worth a try as a vet wr like T.O. or Steve smith or even burress these guys always come to play ball T.O. had one bad yr in buf every where else he produced buf qb was worst than j Campbell their qb was on a Jamarcus Russell level he wants the ball unlike our #85 scared of money being wrongly spent that’s what incentives are for low guaranteed money or just throw the whole coast($$$) at s.holmes
June 1st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
TO, Steve Smith or Burress would be a huge addition to what we have now.
BTW, Under Armor makes these workout shirts that measure your heart rate while you are running around, I would love to see one on DHB while the ball is coming to him. I’m guessing his heartbeat strikes up like a mofo when he sees the ball, prob thinking dont drop it… dont drop it.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Hello everyone!
I dont read much here however I was wondering if the draft Pryor in the supplemental cry is getting loud in here.
I vote forget about it.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:30 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
TO, Steve Smith or Burress would be a huge addition to what we have now.
if for nothing else to show the young guys how to condition and study db’s
June 1st, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Hello everyone!
I dont read much here however I was wondering if the draft Pryor in the supplemental cry is getting loud in here.
I vote forget about it.
whats it going to cost us to get him
June 1st, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I suggest Sidney Rice, James Jones, Vincent Jackson or someone of the ilk. I’ not interetsed in someone playing out the string. I want a dominant player the cost is of no consequence. If you want to win, I wouldn’t touch Chad and I hope Mr Davis feels the same way that guys head is no longer in this league. Let Chad ride another Bull get outta here Chad Johnson I can’t believe you people want that idiot here.
June 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Also I think Hujack once being a rec’s coach has a handle on what he wants so whatever he says I’m down with. I just don’t want these idiots comin’ here looking for a retirement fund bring in a Seymour type who’s serious about the game is a leader and still can play at a probowl level or else.
Forget it………………period
June 1st, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I have no idea. I just thought there would be a draft Pryor segment here at Jerryworld.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:08 pm
the people who say paul hackett cant coach any more bcause hes too old are numbskulls thats like saying a xhef whos cooked for 20 years cant make agood chicken noodle soup any more its all about ingedients if u have the right 1s and the experience its mouth watering
June 1st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
if Pryor is cheap get him that’s our third string QB
June 1st, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Is coaching in the NFL the same as making chicken soup? I didn’t know that.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:12 pm
its called creating something out of several diffrent ingredints aka cooking
q
June 1st, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Thats for me. I support any move the team makes. I got tired of pissing and moaning and I just relax and meld into Al’s life force accepting all things and waiting for the next SB
June 1st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
football players are judged on football the media put us in off field things but judge on production
Sidney Rice, James Jones, Vincent Jackson
good but whats the price going to be
I suggest Sidney Rice, James Jones, Vincent Jackson or someone of the ilk. I’ not interetsed in someone playing out the string. I want a dominant player the cost is of no consequence. If you want to win, I wouldn’t touch Chad and I hope Mr Davis feels the same way that guys head is no longer in this league. Let Chad ride another Bull get outta here Chad Johnson I can’t believe you people want that idiot here.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Al just needs the right players to fit his system. In order to get that, he’ll only need a flash light, a shovel, and a ride to the cemetery.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Ochocinco has been selected to the Pro Bowl six times and named an All-Pro three times.
June 1st, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Clearly Paul Hackett can’t coach because he couldn’t develop JaMarcus Russell… ha.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Pryor is on the grill, sizziling, Kell, take a stab…
June 1st, 2011 at 6:29 pm
This is the 21st century. The laws of economics no longer apply. The obvious solution to government created problems is more government. Liberty and freedom were only important in the 18th century. This is a new world order. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. You will all be taken care of by your benevolent government.
This has been a public service announcement.
June 1st, 2011 at 6:50 pm
GOP Can’t Handle The Truth: Taxes Are Lower Under Obaamaa Than Reagan
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/01/233526/taxes-lower-reagan/
June 1st, 2011 at 6:59 pm
All around the country, conservative lawmakers continue to cut services and investments in Main Street America, claiming that these steps are necessary to close budget deficits. At the same time, major corporations and wealthy individuals continue to benefit from special tax breaks and loopholes that allow them to get away with paying little to nothing in taxes.
Today, Citizens for Tax Justice (CTJ) released a new report chronicling the tax rates of some of the nation’s major corporations. CTJ looked at a sample of a dozen major corporations and analyzed both their profits and their effective federal corporate income tax rates between 2008 and 2010.
CTJ found that from 2008 to 2010, these major corporations earned $173 billion in profits put together. Yet these major corporations paid an average federal corporate income tax rate during this period of -1.5 percent, meaning they actually got money back from the Treasury in the form of tax benefits. ThinkProgress has assembled the average tax rates of these corporations over this period in the following graph:
All around the country, conservative lawmakers continue to cut services and investments in Main Street America, claiming that these steps are necessary to close budget deficits. At the same time, major corporations and wealthy individuals continue to benefit from special tax breaks and loopholes that allow them to get away with paying little to nothing in taxes.
Today, Citizens for Tax Justice (CTJ) released a new report chronicling the tax rates of some of the nation’s major corporations. CTJ looked at a sample of a dozen major corporations and analyzed both their profits and their effective federal corporate income tax rates between 2008 and 2010.
CTJ found that from 2008 to 2010, these major corporations earned $173 billion in profits put together. Yet these major corporations paid an average federal corporate income tax rate during this period of -1.5 percent, meaning they actually got money back from the Treasury in the form of tax benefits. ThinkProgress has assembled the average tax rates of these corporations over this period in the following graph:
All around the country, conservative lawmakers continue to cut services and investments in Main Street America, claiming that these steps are necessary to close budget deficits. At the same time, major corporations and wealthy individuals continue to benefit from special tax breaks and loopholes that allow them to get away with paying little to nothing in taxes.
Today, Citizens for Tax Justice (CTJ) released a new report chronicling the tax rates of some of the nation’s major corporations. CTJ looked at a sample of a dozen major corporations and analyzed both their profits and their effective federal corporate income tax rates between 2008 and 2010.
CTJ found that from 2008 to 2010, these major corporations earned $173 billion in profits put together. Yet these major corporations paid an average federal corporate income tax rate during this period of -1.5 percent, meaning they actually got money back from the Treasury in the form of tax benefits. ThinkProgress has assembled the average tax rates of these corporations over this period in the following graph:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/01/232686/12-major-corporations-taxes/
June 1st, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Sure the taxes look to be lower. Factor in inflation, the hidden tax (which sucks the purchasing power of even the poor) and you will see that it is a policy of not only the Republicans but also the Dems which you obviously think are your saviors.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:21 pm
KoolKell,
I know you can post socialist crap all day long. The question is, can the bureacrats that you revere really allocate scarce resources better than a free market?
June 1st, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Inflation is under control.
http://www.miseryindex.us/irbyyear.asp
June 1st, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Twocents Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 7:21 pm
KoolKell,
I know you can post socialist crap all day long.
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Twocents, you can post wacked out ideas all day long, but can’t post any links to support your bull.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Free Market doesn’t solve everything.
Speculation And Overleverage In The Great Depression
With only loose stock market regulations in place before the Great Depression, investors were able speculate wildly, buying stocks on margin, needing only 10% of the price of a stock to be able to complete the purchase. Rampant speculation led to falsely high stock prices, and when the stock market began to tumble in the months leading up to the October 1929 crash, speculative investors couldn’t make their margin calls, and a massive sell-off began. While the great rise in the stock market (from 181 points in early 1928 to 381 points in September 1929) was fueled by optimism and false hope, the plunge was flamed by stark fear.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:38 pm
KoolKell,
You have admitted that you are a real estate agent, licensed by the state. You have made your living in a cartel that entices unsuspecting buyers to poney up their futures for your profit. But it is for the greater good. The greater good of KoolKell.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Twocents, you’re too stupid, goodbye.
June 1st, 2011 at 7:42 pm
KoolKell, I have posted links in the past, but you are not interested. You prefer to stick to the myths that you learned in your youth.
mises.org
lewrockwell.com
June 1st, 2011 at 7:54 pm
priesttj Says:
May 30th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
OhioRaider he doesn’t meddle in the draft ‘HE RUNS IT’ he always has and always will whether you like it or not it’s his team so if that doesn’t suit you find another one to root for.
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Dude, I’ve explained my position many times, and you’ll never get it. But I’ll say this: you’re absolutely right, and the team’s record is the ultimate measuring stick of the Old Creeper’s success.
But, you know, I’ll be around after Davis is gone, and when the team’s fortunes finally do turn around I’ll say I told you so. And if he does manage to win two more Super Bowls (his own stated goal) I’ll gladly eat my words on this very blog. What’s your prediction Father Pride & Poise?
Your continued mindless insistence that a fan can’t separate his love of the team from the owner defies all rational analysis, but then again being a mindless supporter of what this old douchebag has done to the franchise doesn’t require much reflection now does it? In fact, just the opposite.
I fully intend to use this forum to hold Davis accountable for his mismanagement, and I do it as a lifelong fan who’s sickened by his brand of leadership. And if YOU don’t like it feel free to skip my postings.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Kell, don’t even bother with him. Soon enough, he’s going to get just what he’s wishing for: No government. And the chaos will probably drive him to stick a gun in his mouth. Very few Americans have thrived without some kind of government assistance since the New Deal. Very, very few. You can say you’ll never need social security. Guess what? If your parents draw social security, it helps you! If they didn’t, you’d have to support them, with your money. So you’re benefiting too. That’s just one small example. Like I said, we take away all government, most of these tea party yappers would be the first ones offing themselves, once they realized just what that means. It’s one huge overreaction to a liberal black man being elected president. Hopefully they’ll get over it.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:20 pm
For those who like conspiracy theories…. there was a secret owner meeting held in Chicago earlier today!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/01/nfl-owners-hold-secret-meeting-in-chicago-wednesday/
June 1st, 2011 at 8:22 pm
priest, trust me, we know Al Davis runs the draft!
June 1st, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I’m sure whatever the owners were discussing today, they have the fans in mind first! Not their own profits.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Raiders nearly lead the league in sacks due to blitzes and Marshall is still not brought back. Yet Jerry still says Al doesn’t have a problem with blitzes if it works.
Our Defense was great last year! Our front seven is stacked if you let Howard play. Everyone in the front seven can rush the passer other than Henderson and McClain. Everybody!
if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
June 1st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
WenzhouRaider Says:
June 1st, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Raiders nearly lead the league in sacks due to blitzes and Marshall is still not brought back. Yet Jerry still says Al doesn’t have a problem with blitzes if it works.
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I think Jerry tries not to get cross the Owner either.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Raider, I am trying to respond but Becker is moderating me.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:27 pm
The sooner this old establishment news media is defunct, the better off we will be.
June 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
It reminds me of a line from an old movie. Somewhat modified:
statist: “Socialist stick together.”
freeman: “They better.”
June 1st, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Wow, the 99 cent bag of Tom’s Hot Fries is good stuff.
If DHB has a breakout 3rd yr, then I believe there is hope for world peace.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Ohioraider It took you this long to come up with that??
Well OK, but you do have a choice whinning about his input is about as productive as pissing in the wind.
June 1st, 2011 at 10:40 pm
TJ, is licking Al Davis shoes everyday, productive?
June 1st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
I am definitely in favor of getting Terrelle Pryor he can sit behind Camp for 3 years get excellent training and learn how to be a pro. If he turns out you have a 6′6″ 245 lbs. great athlete who is used to big games and competition. You could probably get him for a 3rd rnd pick I think it’s a brilliant idea.
June 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Bresnahan sucks and so will the raiders defense. 7-9
June 7th, 2011 at 5:00 am
Grads had a few good games. Props to him, hes gone JC is way better than him. Season on the line vs the Phins and he choked big time…. Missing open receivers big time. He was even spotted a kick off return TD by Jacoby. Time will tell. I truly believe JC will lead the Raiders to a SB… Grads will be a career backup at best… These pessimistic Raider fans need to become donkey fans cause thats what you guys sound like. You guys act like this is the 06 Raiders or something. This is a solid football team.
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