Plaxico talk inevitable, but is it realistic?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, June 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Saw that CNN-SI’s Peter King speculated the Raiders would be in the running for incarcerated New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress and wasn’t surprised.
Linking the Raiders to a player with a troubled past is almost a knee-jerk reaction, even if Oakland has been out of the bad boy business for a few years now.
Maybe it had something to do with sinking with big names such as Randy Moss and DeAngelo Hall, but the Raiders, with both their draft picks and free agent signees, are looking for earnest workers who have a passion for the game.
Burress’ problem isn’t the gun charge that landed him in prison. It’s the fact that before that knuckleheaded transgression, Burress had a reputation for having a questionable work ethic and being late to meetings.
Maybe 20 months in the can has changed him, although there’s no way of knowing what it did to his skill as a receiver.
Hue Jackson has been insistent about liking his young receivers, and the Raiders seem destined to stick with the Louis Murphy-Darius Heyward-Bey-Jacoby Ford trio and cross their fingers that Chaz Schilens can remain healthy. Personally, I find Tennessee wideout Denarius Moore to be one of their more intriguing draftees.
Burress to Oakland only happens if A) He plays for something near the league minimum plus incentives; and B) he sells Jackson on the notion he’s a changed man and is worth a look.
Not impossible, but not the way to bet, either.
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June 3rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Why chuck a bunch a passes downfield with no results costing the team??
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Hell, I bet at least a 100,000 Raider fans have been asking that question since the 1990’s. Dude, are totally tone deeef.
Willie Gault
James Jett
Alexander Wright
Rocket Ismail
Darrius Heyward Bey
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Pay him and Chaz near league minimum and hope one pans out!!!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
If Chaz goes down, again, there no No.1 WR on the roster.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Someone put KK back on his medication so I don’t have to read the same post 100 times.
Odds on Burress coming here are 50 to 1
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:20 pm
J Hill Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
6 catches against the Rams, 3 against Az, 5 against Seattle, 4 against Indy.
I think the issue for DHB he really doesn’ seem to be a part of the gameplan.
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STL and Sea games were the best games of his life.
Indy was mop-up catches, and the AZ game he caught like 3 of 15 passes thrown his way, and knocked one of them up in the air for an INT.
I say DHB has 35 catches for 480 yards and 1 TD this year.
But hey, some great blocking!!!!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Do what I do and avoid them completely.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Hue Jackson has been insistent about liking his young receivers, and the Raiders seem destined to stick with the Louis Murphy-Darius Heyward-Bey-Jacoby Ford trio and cross their fingers that Chaz Schilens can remain healthy. Personally, I find Tennessee wideout Denarius Moore to be one of their more intriguing draftees.
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5 LOCKS for the roster.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Chaz didn’t attend Camp Soup, and I think Al is over him.
He will have to do more than just be quasi-healthy to make the team, IMO.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
release chaz for plaxico or trade him for steve smith
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
and the AZ game he caught like 3 of 15 passes thrown his way, and knocked one of them up in the air for an INT.
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Absolutely pathetic display.
Final nail in Gardowski’s coffin with me was him forcing the ball to him all day.
And with that said, he still almost won the game for us by drawing the PI, lol!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
As far as Plexiglass is concerned……….Just say NO! He’s the last guy our young WRs need around the locker room.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I think Chaz stick because he basically costing nothing with that 7th rd salary
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Why are we always discussing the worst parts of our team, past and present??
It’s always why Jamarcus failed and whose fault it was (thanks Debo), why Soup can’t win more games than he losses, Chaz, Tom Cable, and a bunch on new O-line starters.
We should be talking about the future of our youngsters. Rolando, Darren McFadden, Jacoby, Shonasty, MM34 (at SS thank you) and Lamar Houston.
I set the over/under for combined Pro Bowls in their careers for those guys at:
13.5
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
ELWAYs TEETH
are u serious this guy has just been humbbled by 18 hr lockdowns so go back to being our selves and sign prison projects
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
With Chaz 100% healthy there still is not a #1 on the roster.
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KoolKell Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
If Chaz goes down, again, there no No.1 WR on the roster.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Future career Pro Bowl picks:
Pain McClain – 6
D-Mac – 4 (RB’s short shelf life)
Jacoby Ford – 2
Houston – 2
Shonasty – 1
MM34 – 0
Total 15
Take the over.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Jacoby Ford is our number one receiver by far.
DH Bust is killing this team’s offense.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Vegas,
I thought Chaz DID show up down in Hotlanta. Seems like somebody posted a link with pix, from somebody who lived in the area, and the guy said Chaz signed some autograohs for him. (Hope he didn’t sprain his wrist).
He wasn’t at the workouts at JC’s home, I know. That was Murph and DHB.
When asked via twitter, JC said Chaz was home healing up and was gonna be fine.
I believe he was at the team workout, howver. I thought that was a good sign. As long as he didn’t get hurt.
Out of the 33-35 participants, I’ve still only heard about 10-12 names mentioned. I’d like to know who all was in attendance.
Hopefully my boy MM34 was there…since he’s going to earn a starting spot this year and all. lol.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Not sure about Plax’s “issues”, but physically dude is awful old and rusty to be a number 1.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Why are we always discussing the worst parts of our team, past and present??
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Agreed but unfortunately the QB position is so critical. It gets all the fame and blame as well.
2011 Probowl: McSkinny Leggs, Ford (at spec team). Not sure if Rolando will ever make the probowl due to his lack of speed from one side to the other.
btw: Cassel over Soup any day. 27tc/7int vs 13td/8int.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Chaz didn’t attend with Soup when they played catch on that pitch in the middle of hell (according to what the pics looked like).
In ATL, he was an observer, reportedly.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Shaunessy, Ford & Houston are nice players but will never snif a Pro Bowl. McClain same category. MM34? LMAO
DMAC might get 1 if he stays healthy.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
” Chaz signed some autograohs for him. (Hope he didn’t sprain his wrist).”
No he did that while rubbing one out to a Beyonce video!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
McClain will be a perennial All-Pro, and one mean SOB along the way.
Book it.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Jacoby Ford is our number one receiver by far.
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Yup, Al is going gaga over him as the Cliff Branch replacement he has been looking for all these years. As soon as Nnamdi is gone, watch him don the #21 jersey (is that even legal).
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
yo
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
He certainly hasn’t been a help but killing it is a bit much we scored 25 a game and were in the top 10 offensively. I think it’s alive and will thrive with or without DHB but if DHB comes to the party lookout.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
666, will you ever use your OakGlen login or did I smash you too hard?
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
” Chaz signed some autograohs for him. (Hope he didn’t sprain his wrist).”
No he did that while rubbing one out to a Beyonce video!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Ford will make the probowl on spec team as a returner. Book that.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:28 pm
We should be talking about the future of our youngsters. Rolando, Darren McFadden, Jacoby, Shonasty, MM34 (at SS thank you) and Lamar Houston.
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I’m sure they’ll do fine once they get out of Oakland.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
It took Pain McClain 5 and half quarters to accomplish what a bunch of our LB’s couldn’t accomplish in 5+ years.
Knock that stupid little annoyance Sproles out of the game, and out of their playbook.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
LookOUT suckas! WOW if this KID gets focused he will put fear into any defense in the NFL! He already is lifting the lid off defenses……period
Ding a Lings
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Priesttj Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
but if DHB comes to the party lookout.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Its easy to blame the WR’s for a QB’s bad play but a good QB will create good WR’s.
Look at what Rivers did last year with so many guys hurt he still made plays. Look at Cassell he has no WR’s to speak of. look at Elway or Marino there were times were they didn’t have good WR’s. It seems like every year Brady is putting a guy like Wes Welker on the map.
I understand that Campbell is no Marino but you cant place all the blame on us having a weak WR crew.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
tj the whiffer, what did you have for lunch, scotch & crackers?
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Rubbing one off to Beyonce? Maybe a decade ago. Well, definitely a decade ago. Every chance I got.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Maybe McPain will make it to the probowl based on reputation. Every analyst is gaga over his preparation and I’m sure his mean streak will get him there too. I just dont see enough speed to take over a game like Patrick Willis. Mike Mayock was right about this guy being in a 3-4 D.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
I don’t think DHB even knows there is a party. Having said that I haven’t been mesmerized by his still photos either…
tj, your thoughts ?
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
WR crew might be iffy, but there is 31 other QB’s who would love to throw to Zack Miller and Darren McFadden underneath.
Is their a better TE-RB pass-catching duo in the league? Maybe one or two, but not many.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Sister Brown Eye I have been here for about 6 or 7 years and have always had the same moniker.
Not sure what you are fishing for a lost man crush or affirmation that you are not the only troll. But I can assure you that you have never smashed me, like I said yesterday you are weak and couldn’t even punch a clock.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Buck I really that kid MM34 man I just like his style of play he’s going to be a very good player for a long time IMO. He has the goods!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Jerry, get this mope a sweater and bumper sticker ASAP.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Sister Brown Eye I have been here for about 6 or 7 years
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
I understand that Campbell is no Marino but you cant place all the blame on us having a weak WR crew.
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If you look at JC’s career and all you ever see are excuses and excuses made for him by his defenders.
WR’s, Oline, Coaching, bla bla bla
I have always believed that a good player (QB) makes the players around him play better (maybe not probowl level but better). Peyton, Rivers and Brees take their WR’s to the next level for sure.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Now you rub one off to Jay Z instead or your cousin, right?
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Rubbing one off to Beyonce? Maybe a decade ago. Well, definitely a decade ago. Every chance I got.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
NFL Analysis: Al Davis Continues to Lead Raiders Nowhere
Blog by TheXLog
(May 17, 2011) in Sports / Raiders
Al Davis is the NFL’s version of the Dos Equis guy, he’s easily the most interesting man in football. Instead of wanting you to stay thirsty, he just wants to win…baby. Davis’ image is as recognizable to professional football fans as the NFL shield itself. As the years have gone by though, his movie like appearance has changed from that of a wise guy with ties to Joe Pesci and Robert Deniro in “Casino”, to the brother of Smeagol in Lord of the Rings.
As Davis has aged, his appearance hasn’t been the only decline in his life. His beloved Raiders franchise has crumbled under the weight of his horrific decision making of the last decade. The once storied “Black Hole”, that opposing fans feared to enter in Oakland has seemed more like a vacation spot of sorts as of late. The nickname the “Black Hole” now better describes the part of his heart meant to hold the affection for his coaches. Davis goes through coaches these days like an evil crypt keeper goes through souls that have been damned to come into contact with him.
Davis helped lead the AFL and the Raiders into a prominent position back in the 1960′s. He kept them competitive and even dominant for a few decades as they merged into the NFL. By the time Jon Gruden came into the death clutch of Mr. Davis, the Raiders hadn’t been a factor for quite some time. Gruden still managed to overcome the handicap that had become of having Al as a boss and led Oakland to an AFC Championship game and an apparent Super Bowl berth, until the infamous “tuck rule” changed all of that. The next year, Davis thought the best way to reward Gruden for this and to keep his organization moving forward was to trade Gruden to Tampa Bay.
Bill Callahan, who was Gruden’s offensive coordinator replaced him in Oakland and led the Raiders to face off against Gruden’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers team in the very next Super Bowl. What looked to be a brilliant move at a first glance quickly became apparent to everyone to be a colossal mistake. The Bucs destroyed Oakland’s team, partly because Callahan was still running the same offense that Gruden helped install with the personnel that Gruden help develop.
Since Smeagol sold his treasure to Tampa Bay, he’s been searching all of middle-earth for his precious. For those of you that watched Lord of the Rings, you realize that I’m not talking about Gruden here, but instead the jewelry loving Davis. Al is looking for the ring that he holds so dear. His precious has made him callous. And when you factor that in with the diminishing mental aptitude he’s developed over the years, you can see how he’s run his franchise into the dirt. Even when he lucks out to hiring a good fit and having a great draft, he undermines it and sets the organization back, 5 more years.
When it comes to the draft, the golden rule is that a franchise quarterback trumps all else. Davis doesn’t give his head coaches the leeway to draft their own personnel. This was always known but brought more to the light when Lane Kiffin stated that he never wanted Jamarcus Russell. Since their Super Bowl appearance, the Raiders haven’t been over .500 once. When they finally made it back to 8-8 and 6-0 in their conference, Davis decided to not resign the coach that got them there.
The biggest problem here is how Davis forced his coaches to draft since the Super Bowl. Below you will find the coaches and their records the year after Davis dipped his hand into the talent pool to make the selections. I’ve also added some key notes on who the Raiders could have drafted instead in the coming picks. It’s important to note that the Raiders haven’t had a dynamic skill position player since the Super Bowl season. Instead of drafting a franchise quarterback, Davis has placed more value on the secondary, but then in large part has chosen not to resign them?
2003 – Bill Callahan (4-12)
1st Round #31- Nnamdi Asomugha – Great pick but they already had Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, and Phillip Buchanon and didn’t have a franchise quarterback. I still wouldn’t complain about this pick, if the Raiders plan on resigning him this year.
1st Round #32 – Tyler Brayton – Osi Umenyiora was still on the board and went several picks later.
3rd Round #63 – Teyo Johnson – Jason Witten was still on the board and went a few picks later.
2004 – Norv Turner (5-11)
1st Round #2 – Robert Gallery – They obviously needed a franchise quarterback, not named Kerry Collins. Instead they drafted an offensive tackle that had to move inside to guard. Phillip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger were both still available. They also could have drafted Larry Fitzgerald.
2nd Round #45 – Jake Grove – They drafted two interior offensive lineman and could have taken Darnell Dockett with this pick and a franchise QB with their first selection. Where do you think they would have been now?
2005 – Norv Turner (4-12)
1st Round #23 – Fabian Washington – So, the Kerry Collins/Rich Gannon project didn’t work the prior year. Norv Turner had to pass on Roethlisberger / Rivers in 2004, how the hell would an organization pass on Aaron Rodgers when he slid to them? Instead Davis selected a cornerback and the Packers took Rodgers with the next pick, then the following year, the Raiders didn’t resign Charles Woodson, and he ended up with the Packers. Fast forward five years and the Packers win a Super Bowl while the Raiders look to not resign Nnamdi Asomugha. Also, 2 picks after Oakland took Fabian Washington, the Washington Redskins drafted Jason Campbell, who ironically is now the Raiders starting quarterback and should be replaced.
2nd Round #38 – Stanford Routt – Oakland wasted the 2nd overall pick the prior year on a guy who can’t play offensive tackle. This year, Michael Roos was still on the board, but yet they still went for another cornerback. Also, Frank Gore went several picks later.
2006 – Art Shell (2-14)
1st Round #7 – Michael Huff – Oakland let go of Kerry Collins and brought in Aaron Brooks instead of drafting a franchise quarterback. They once again choose secondary over quarterback. They could have drafted Jay Cutler, or could have gotten that franchise running back in Deangelo Williams after passing on Frank Gore or after not drafting Darnell Dockett, they could have taken Haloti Ngata here.
Round #38 – Thomas Howard – This wasn’t a bad pick but they could have gotten a playmaker at running back or receiver with Greg Jennings or Maurice Jones-Drew. Marcus McNeil would have been a better left tackle than Gallery, who was drafted 2nd overall 2 years prior. The Raiders also liked Vince Young in this draft. (Hint Hint – Al Davis might go after him this year.)
2007 – Lane Kiffin (4-12)
1st Round #1 – Jamarcus Russell – Surprised that Art Shell didn’t work out 12 years later, after getting fired the first time. Davis hires a 31 year old coach and after passing on several Super Bowl winning quarterbacks the last few drafts, forces him to draft the biggest bust in NFL draft history. Kiffin probably would have selected Calvin Johnson here. He also could have taken Adrian Peterson, Joe Thomas, Patrick Willis, or Darrelle Revis. Basically, anybody except Russell.
2nd Round #38 – Zach Miller – Miller is a good tight end but they could have drafted Jason Witten a few years prior and taken Lamarr Woodley here.
2008 – Kiffin / Tom Cable (5-11)
1st Round #4 – Darren McFadden – After passing on Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore, and Maurice Jones-Drew, they go after their running back. They could have gotten Chris Johnson later. McFadden can’t stay healthy. They could have taken Ryan Clady here.
2009 – Tom Cable (5-11)
1st Round #7 – Darius Heyward-Bey – C’mon on man! They could have taken Michael Crabtree. If they would have taken Calvin Johnson in 2007, they could have taken BJ Raji, Brian Orakpo, Brian Cushing, or Clay Matthews. They also could have taken Josh Freeman here but wouldn’t because Davis loved Russell.
Round 2 #47 – Mike Mitchell – Back to the secondary. This could have been Lesean McCoy or Paul Kruger.
2010 – Tom Cable (8-8)
1st Round #8 – Rolando McClain – After the heavy backlash on the 2009 draft, Cable got to make some input on this draft. He had a great draft and had a solid choice here.
2nd Round #44 – Lamarr Houston- Cable follows it up with another great pick here. It becomes apparent, who’s in charge of this draft.
2011 – Hue Jackson…..
Smeagol shows how completely insane the pursuit of the ring has made him. He fires the first coach that’s be able to get him back to .500 and was able to convince Davis of drafting talented football players instead of track stars. Since Cable was not resigned, Al Davis decided to name the new head coach, Hue Jackson. As soon as Cable was let go and Jackson hired, we all knew that the 2011 draft would have an Al Davis stench to it. That’s exactly what happened as Cable wasn’t in the room anymore to convince Davis to take talented players, he made Jackson draft more track stars. Fitting the mold of Davis secondary picks with track speed is Demarcus Van Dyke from Miami.
Well, welcome back to the Black Hole which is known as the AFC West basement, because that’s where Smeagol feels most comfortable in his pursuit of the ring.
Jayson Braddock is an NFL Scout / NFL Writer & On-Air Personality. Jayson is also a football insider for the Dylan Gwinn show on 790 AM in Houston, TX -
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-analysis-al-davis-continues-to-lead-raiders-nowhere
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
MB, I don’t do much ‘rubbing off’ at all anymore. Just lost it’s luster at some point. Although MSNBC’s Tamron Hall tempts me. I can watch her all day.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Well the convo has gone to helll aaggaiin!!
Adios!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
but there is 31 other QB’s who would love to throw to Zack Miller and Darren McFadden underneath.
Is their a better TE-RB pass-catching duo in the league? Maybe one or two, but not many.
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Agreed.
Our RBs and TEs should be the priority targets.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
You dont have much else going on. I say give it a shot.
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I can watch her all day.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
priest, we’re just talking about jerking off to music videos. Is that so out of line? Sheesh. Mr. Rodgers over here.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
You guys should have seen old BrownEye in here yesterday getting all emotional over what that old goat KK said to him.
Then he tried playing tough internet bully with KK. pathetic pal seriously weak and pathetic. you showed us your true colors, (rusty brown underwear stain)
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
tj, your not going anywhere. You have nothing else to do. You will lurk & sulk like the deranged mental patient you are & comeback when the coast is clear.
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Priesttj Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Well the convo has gone to helll aaggaiin!!
Adios!
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
You dont have much else going on. I say give it a shot.
……….
Hell, maybe I will.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
priest, we’re just talking about jerking off to music videos.
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Do people actually do this??
If you can’t “hold back” watching a music video, than you probably aren’t going to please the female a whole heck of a lot.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
tj’s going to change screennames and tell us which female celebs he rubs off to these days.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Maybe this is what Chaz was rubbing one out to:
http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/03/13/the-sexy-side-of-pole-vaulting-gallery/sexy-pole-vaulting-girls-23/
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Owners caving in……(this is a good thing)
Per PFT….
Though the reality of oral arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit has interrupted the fantasy of a labor deal being secretly negotiated amid boxes of deep dish pizza (eaten, of course, with plastic utensils), our buddy Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com reports that the owners made concessions during the two days of not-so-secret meetings in Chicago.
Freeman writes that “[n]o one will say exactly what the concessions are but significant ones have been made and the players believe they are genuine.” Freeman speculates that the owners are “continuing to come down significantly” from the demand that the owners receive another $1 billion off the top (in addition to the original $1 billion) before application of the 59.6-percent formula. “The players always believed this was an outrageous demand and the players were right,” Freeman says.
Though it’s possible that the talks have reverted to the 2006 formula, which is based on money off the top with the players getting nearly 60 percent of the remainder, the March 11 offer from the NFL reflected the new formula the two sides had been discussing — a “pegged cap” based on specific team-by-team salary cap numbers each and every season, with the players also wanting to share in any money over and above the projections on which the predetermined cap numbers were based.
The concept of the “true up” has been the sticking point, with the players interpreting the absence of a true up provision in the March 11 offer as an indication that the league won’t share any of the excess, and with the league assuming that a response from the players (which to date hasn’t come) would include a proposal regarding the true up.
Regardless of the specific formula used, the heart of the dispute centers on the players’ belief that they should forever receive 50 cents of every dollar of revenue generated, regardless of the total dollars of revenue generated. The owners believe that, as the total dollars pass $10 billion per year and commence the inevitable climb toward $20 billion, the players should take a smaller piece of this perpetually growing pie.
Perhaps the owners are now willing to keep that number closer to 50 percent than 40 percent. One way or the other, Freeman’s report suggests that something has happened to get the players’ attention. With money being the primary issue in dispute, it’s safe to say that something had something to do with the manner in which the money will be shared.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
This is where you blow your cover OakGlen, maniacal rants like these give you away every time. Its your signature fuktard blast.
lol
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
You guys should have seen old BrownEye in here yesterday getting all emotional over what that old goat KK said to him.
Then he tried playing tough internet bully with KK. pathetic pal seriously weak and pathetic. you showed us your true colors, (rusty brown underwear stain)
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
hold back? lol. Why would anyone want to do that? What are you, some kind of religious freak? You think Jesus is watching you like Paul Rodriguez in Born in East LA?
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I saw MB in here calling Kell out to a fight. MB had a rough day yesterday. Glad he’s feeling better today.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
You think Jesus is watching you like Paul Rodriguez in Born in East LA?
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Great scene!!!
I wasn’t talking about holding back your urges, I meant holding back, holding back, you know.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Effin crazy that they are going to approach $20bil revenue some day. Dang.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Don’t forget about big boy Michael Bush. He’s no slouch as a rec’ing RB, either. There was a play vs KC in finale, that reminded me of Marcus.
He took an errent JC throw, tipped it to himself, caught and rumbled upfield. He’s a very natural rec and surprisingly agile for such a big dude.
For too many years now Zach Miller has been Oak’s lone clutch option on 3rd downs. He needs some help.
I watched that Hou game from lat year. Zach was a one man gang. The WR’s were non existant. He had like 10 catches for 120+ yards. He was taking a brutal beating too.
The only WR to make a play was sadly JLH. He made a really nice catch on the run. Plucked it out of the air in full stride. Nice.
Somehow, despite how bad the D was that day, and the WR crew totally MIA, Grads had em in position to tie late in the game. But after an intentional grounding, and a desperation 4th and 18 he throws a strike to Murph who found a hole in the porous Texan zone.
Woulda been the 1st and probably back breaker for Houston. Nope. Right through his damn hands, off his chest and right to a defender. Game over.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Got ya, JFB. I guess I wouldn’t view such an activity as some kind of practice for the real thing.
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Brown eye your angry I understand but calling me someone else will not help your situation.
Here is what Brown eye rubs one out to:
http://afrocityblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/hope-stain.jpg
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I got Born in East LA on netflix a few months back. That Rodriguez scene is the only funny scene in the movie. Poorly written film. What a waste of talent. A movie with Cheech and Paul Rodriguez should have been up there with Friday. Great song, dumb idea for a movie. Basically took a Carlos Mencia skit and stretched it out 90 minutes.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“I saw MB in here calling Kell out to a fight. MB had a rough day yesterday. Glad he’s feeling better today.”
Yeah the poor little guy had a rough day I am sure his therapist heard all about it. But thats what happens when your a mental midget and you get all upset over words on a computer screen.
If this Oakglen person gets you that riled up then I want to be him!
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
So MR you are one of the 10’s of people watching MSNBC.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
He doesn’t know.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Great scene!!!
I wasn’t talking about holding back your urges, I meant holding back, holding back, you know.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
MB, I’ll be the last person watching MSNBC as long as Tamron’s there. Just so you know, I don’t watch Maddow, or any of the afternoon pundit shows. I’m burnt out on all of that. I get my political fix from independent sources now, and NPR.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Do either of you 2 derelicts (MR&666 aka OakGlen)know the difference between challenging someone to a fight or simply stating if you said that to my face I would put you on the ground?
Its a rhetorical question guys…
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
MB, I wish your dad knew what JFB meant by holding back.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Paul Rodriguez came to Chico when I was in college for a show at one of the local Indian casino’s, and than went out on the town, riding solo it seemed.
Talked to him for about 3-4 minutes at the bar at LaSalle’s with a group of people. We all chipped in and took a shot of tequilla and took some pics as well.
Seemed like a good dude, but he sure was hell-bent on scoring some college tail. Not sure if he was successful or not.
Where was Backpage when you needed them?
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I bet all the 1’s of girls you’ve slept with knew as well.
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
MB, I wish your dad knew what JFB meant by holding back.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
See he is totally clueless about holding back. He has no idea holding back means to prolong something. He thinks holding back is never doing it!
LMAO
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
MB, I wish your dad knew what JFB meant by holding back.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
MB, saying you’re going to do something to someone over the internet is pretty cowardly, that was our point. Face it, you went full net gangster retard yesterday. You’re doing better today, though. A little rest is good for everyone.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Wow, 2 come backs to the same put down, MB? Why don’t you just go over them in your head, and decide on the best one?
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
LMAO at #71
It is painfully obvious that this Oakglen guy has hurt you. Now you are looking for revenge or maybe you even hired a private investigator to find him.
Browneye If I was this Oakglen person knowing how bad he upset you I would gladly stake claim to it right now!
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Not getting too much response to my over/under on pro bowls for those young guys.
MB laughed me off, and that was about it, lol.
Take the over!!!
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Watching the Jags game
Savage is not the word to use when describing Carlisle’s run blocking .
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
I agree, thats why I said he wouldn’t say it to my face or I would put him on the ground. We can keep going in a circle until you get it right.
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
MB, saying you’re going to do something to someone over the internet is pretty cowardly
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:11 pm
666, be careful. You saw yesterday just how tough MB is, and now we’ve found out that he knows what ‘holding back’ means. This guy must have his own theme song.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
How do you not laugh about MM or Houston going to a pro bowl. Thats right up there with tj talking about DHB coming to a party.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Uh oh, MB’s slipping back in to his cyber tough guy spell. Just sit back. Try not to make fun of him too hard. He’ll come out of it in about an hour.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
“MB, saying you’re going to do something to someone over the internet is pretty cowardly, that was our point. Face it, you went full net gangster retard yesterday. You’re doing better today, though. A little rest is good for everyone.”
yeah rest and therapy maybe a Valium. I agree when a person resorts to internet threats it is cowardly. He does seem to be better today but still wanting to find his true internet chat lover Oakglen is a sign of poor mental health. Let it go man just let it go.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
He’s gonna “put you on the ground”, 666! lol.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
The spirit of Oakglenn will never die in here.
Seriously, it has to have been at least two years since someone under that handle has posted.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Whatever MB does after he puts guys on the ground, I just hope he “holds back”, for their sake.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I put a zero under MM34 for pro bowls, lol.
I think Houston and Shonasty might scratch out a few combined over the years.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Savage is not the word to use when describing Carlisle’s run blocking .
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How about savagely-effective?
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Maybe he has a split personality.
One moment he is internet gangster gonna hurt a mofo.
The next he is looking for his lost man love Oakglen.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I doubt Oakglenn posts here anymore, under any name. Nobody here comes close to his passion for defending Al, and flips out as much as him. Man, he was so easy.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
No he popped his head out somewhere around week 6 or 8 last year.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
The spirit of Oakglenn will never die in here.
Seriously, it has to have been at least two years since someone under that handle has posted.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
when you have MBush and DMC and Ford to checkdown to that is not a bad deall at all. 90% of the time they are the ones who caught those checkdowns.
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TJ,
only 10 percent went to Marcel Reece & Zach Miller?
did you eat paint chips as a kid?
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
“Whatever MB does after he puts guys on the ground, I just hope he “holds back”, for their sake.”
Damn thats funny and I know funny!
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
lol @ eating paint chips
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Oakglenn trademark:
????? ?????? ????? He can’t resist those question marks when he’s going ape sheet on someone.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I do remember Oakglen but I also remember guys like RaiderDell being cool. Anyone know what happened to that guy?
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
you don’t think Al Davis works as hard as he can????? day and night????? you don’t think he wants to win????
that’s oakglenn. lol. Always. No matter what name he uses.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
His other trademark is swinging at me and missing 100% of the time, right 666? Cross posting is also one of his favs right 666, and MR you know a lil something about that too.
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Oakglenn trademark:
????? ?????? ????? He can’t resist those question marks when he’s going ape sheet on someone.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Thats funny because you’ve told me over a dozen times you have NO IDEA WHO THIS OAKGLEN guy is….lmao @ you!
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I do remember Oakglen
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Oakglenn probably got fired and works for another team now, lol. I’m sure that’s what happens to a lot of those “commenters” here who disappear.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Burress to Oakland only happens if A) He plays for something near the league minimum plus incentives; and B) he sells Jackson on the notion he’s a changed man and is worth a look.
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Burress to Oakland only happens if A) He can catch the football; and B) He doesn’t have any suitors besides Oakland
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
MB, I’m not going to respond to you. I don’t want to get put on the ground, man.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Or maybe he is under several different names, like you.
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Oakglenn probably got fired and works for another team now, lol. I’m sure that’s what happens to a lot of those “commenters” here who disappear
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
later, guys. Later, MB, you internet tough guy. I’ll be watching my back all day for you, hoping you don’t put me on the ground, dude. later.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Sounds good.
Here’s a job for you, go dig up all 666 posts saying he has no idea who OakGlen is and then repost him 5 mins ago saying he remembers him. I will lift the hit on you…
lmao
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RAIDER Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:24 pm
MB, I’m not going to respond to you. I don’t want to get put on the ground, man.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
BrownEye sure has a hard on for Oakglen.
Dude I wish I was him or knew where he was just so I could see your other personality (hard core internet gangster) come because its Friday and we could all use a laugh.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I don’t know who he is personally. I do remember him posting her a few years ago.
Please please don’t hurt me tough guy or put me on the ground with your deliverance like intentions.
June 3rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
back to football we need an experienced backup QB.
Lets take a vote on who we want.
1. Troy Smith
2. Trent Edwards
3. VY
4. Other
June 3rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Is that old goat Krappy still sliming around the blog or did his wife and her bowl cut dump him into a low grade retirement village?
June 3rd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Is Craig Whelihan still alive? I’d take that dude any day over Boller. His moustache alone could huck the rock 45 yards with some wind.
Any sign of Charged Down? Some community college must have accepted that putz by now.
June 3rd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Wonder Why He Didn’t Join The Raiders:
In nine years as Green Bay’s general manager, Ron Wolf made many of the moves that turned the Packers into one of the best franchises in football. Now Wolf’s son is climbing up the Packers’ organizational ladder.
The Packers announced today that Eliot Wolf, who is entering his eighth season with the Packers, has been named assistant director of player personnel.
“Eliot is an important part of our personnel staff,” Packers G.M. Ted Thompson said in the team’s announcement. “Over the years, his responsibilities and duties have continued to grow. His contributions to our efforts in pro scouting have been tremendous, and he has taken on more in the college scouting and draft preparations. We believe this adjustment is an appropriate recognition of his continued growth within our personnel group.”
The 28-year-old Wolf served as assistant director of pro personnel for the past three seasons and a pro personnel assistant for four seasons before that.
Wolf’s bio on the Packers’ site says he started helping his dad study film when he was 10.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/03/packers-promote-ron-wolfs-son/
June 3rd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Right on cue, Krappy!
And with another sloppy cut and paste job. Must be a slow day at the barbershop, huh? Oh, let me guess, you’re spending a relaxing afternoon at your Swiss Chalet.
Awesome!
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
How long you been waiting on me Beech?
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
My first post in a year or more and ol Krappy waddles up, tongue wagging!
Old fool, when are you getting a job? I guarantee that ratty town house is still on the market.
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Hmm, Beachmm and mr at the dame time?
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Lady Raccoon! I almost forgot about you, girl. Remember that time you tried to meet up with me at the Weinerschnitzel in Sacramento to buy me a corn dog?
Good times!
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Ron Wolf’s Sons Rises in Green Bay Personnel Dept:
In nine years as Green Bay’s general manager, Ron Wolf made many of the moves that turned the Packers into one of the best franchises in football. Now Wolf’s son is climbing up the Packers’ organizational ladder.
The Packers announced today that Eliot Wolf, who is entering his eighth season with the Packers, has been named assistant director of player personnel.
“Eliot is an important part of our personnel staff,” Packers G.M. Ted Thompson said in the team’s announcement. “Over the years, his responsibilities and duties have continued to grow. His contributions to our efforts in pro scouting have been tremendous, and he has taken on more in the college scouting and draft preparations. We believe this adjustment is an appropriate recognition of his continued growth within our personnel group.”
The 28-year-old Wolf served as assistant director of pro personnel for the past three seasons and a pro personnel assistant for four seasons before that.
Wolf’s bio on the Packers’ site says he started helping his dad study film when he was 10.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/03/packers-promote-ron-wolfs-son/
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Better ease up on the TUMS PM, Krappy – you just cut and pasted the same boring nonsense twice.
Maybe time for the wife and her bowl cut to administer a hose down in the backyard, no?
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
What do you blog dorks think of the draft this year? Wisniewski was a decent pick up but the rest were wiffs.
Speaking of wiffs, I’m sensing Krappy is preparing to post the Raider’s record over the last 8 years.
Do it, old fool! You know you can’t stop yourself!
June 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
It would have been terrific if Eliot Wolf had joined the Raiders.
June 3rd, 2011 at 7:55 pm
God Bless the New York Yankees!!!!
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Denarius Moore will challenge DHB for that WR spot.
Plaxico is a better fit in Philly.
Future ProBowlers…
Young Wiz
Veldheer
Z. Miller
DMc
McClain
Sands
Ford (ret.)
Pick Terrelle Pryor in the supplimental draft.
Hue can get him NFL ready & Campbell is a good role model.
High talent – Low $$$ risk – No rush – High potential
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
June 3rd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
What do you blog dorks think of the draft this year? Wisniewski was a decent pick up but the rest were wiffs.
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If they are all wiffs, I guess you’ve watched them play and know all about them. Tell us why Denarius Moore is a wiff.
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
I don’t think Moore or Barksdale or Chekwa are whiffs at all. Chekwa was highly rated until he broke his wrist in the bowl game and Moore is just way too talented the same is true with Barksdale. As far as Taiwan (TJ) Jones that kid could be an absolute star.
Wiz is the safest pick not the highest ceiling but a very safe pick.
The reason people think this draft is bad is that the kids run fast, it’s sounds strange but the media has people believing if a player for the Raiders runs fast he can’t play. If he plays for the Steelers he’s a player but if the same player plays for the Raiders and runs fast he can’t play….
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Priest you dont know a damn thing about any of these picks….before the Raiders pikd em youd never even heard of these guys. Or, I supppose your a big EWU Eagles fan huh??
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
AD said in his last press conf. that basically the Raiders org. is tired of dealing with personal issues. I don’t think that Burress is on the Raider wish list.
June 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Most of these guys believe in Mayocks Height weight speed claim only applies to the Raiders no one else cares about those traits.
June 3rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Yep, if T.Jones can learn how to hang on to the ball he may become the next Nappy K. The guy is lightning fast.
June 3rd, 2011 at 10:21 pm
So tired of watching the millionaire owners and nfl personell and players sit out on strike because they can’t agree on how to best screw the golden goose. They are secretly talking? Yeah, right.
I’ll tell you how to end the strike. All the wives of the owners, ‘cept dear Coach of course, all the spouses of NFL personell, all the escort services for the nflpa cronies and the players, all the females need to cut out the poon-tang for the gents because if the strike continues, these women will suffer the abuse of these greedy nfl people, owners and players, and the nflpa, because if there is no football and no proffits, these guys will go nuts, they will lose their minds. So, no football, no poon-tang. If that were the case, strike would be over in 15 minutes.
June 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 pm
“The Raydayz! the Raydayz will win”……………period
June 4th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Why is Plaxico a bad fit?
We need a bigger sized possession WR for 3rd downs and endzone situations.
Sadly, even after a year in prison Plaxico may still get better numbers then our current WRs.
If we really plan on making the playoffs we need a viable option other than check-downs or Zach Miller only.
June 4th, 2011 at 3:41 am
It will not matter if our Line can not keep Campbell upright if we can keep Campbell clean and stop the run we take the AFC West but it starts upfront
June 4th, 2011 at 4:17 am
Plax, yes. Steve Smith no. We already have a guy similar that is better… Ford.
June 4th, 2011 at 4:54 am
im done with partying… at least this time around =) 3 intense days partying in the streets..
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150208372925956&set=a.10150208357730956.331277.63319095955&type=1&theater&pid=6938269&id=63319095955
June 4th, 2011 at 5:11 am
Just got blown away by some stats
Best Run Stop Rates for DL, 2010 (min. 30 Plays)
Player Team Run
Stop Rate Run
Plays Run
Dft Run
Yd/Play
99-L.Houston OAK 91% 33 7 1.3
71-A.Garay SD 90% 41 7 1.7
78-A.Branch ARI 90% 30 8 1.7
92-S.Ellis NYJ 90% 30 6 2.1
79-J.Henderson OAK 90% 30 3 1.8
92-A.Franklin SF 89% 38 4 1.9
76-Ja.Williams DEN 89% 46 3 2.6
94-A.Smith HOU 87% 30 7 1.4
79-R.Pickett GB 87% 30 3 3.0
96-P.Soliai MIA 86% 36 8 1.1
92-H.Ngata BAL 86% 50 8 1.8
95-C.Johnson CAR 86% 42 8 1.9
June 4th, 2011 at 5:12 am
http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/no-waffling-on-importance-of-raiders-dline-coach/#.TenIGkffFMc
June 4th, 2011 at 7:08 am
G’Morning fellas.
On my way to a softball game, but just wanted to share this. Looking through a copy of The Sporting news Pro Preview yesterday.
They had some good things to say about the Silver & Black. They did have the Raiders finishing 2nd to SD. Chargers 10-6, Raiders 9-7. KC 3rd at 7-9.
They said they like the combination of Hue’s confidence and energy with Oakland’s talented young roster. They expected them to be in playoff contention all year but falter at the end.
The item that caught my attention though, was a part called opposing viewpoint, or something like that. It is an interview with an anonymous scout from a division rival…sizing up the competition. They do one for every team.
I’m paraphrasing here, so feel free to pick up a copy at the newsstand and read it for yourself. This scout said while he sees the Raiders in contention for the division this year, he doesn’t see them as a serious Super Bowl contender. Yet. He said they’re a lot closer than most people think. Oakland is defenitely heading in the right direction and could be on the verge in the next year or so. a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
The Raider writeup is accompanied by an awesome picture of McFadden. he looks like a friggin beast.lol.
I just thought it was interesting that while this place is full of doom and gloom by Raider fans who predict a return to 5-11, one of our division rival scouts sees Oakland as being on the verge of becoming a legitimate Super Bowl threat.
Have a good day fellas.
June 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am
[...] Plaxico Burress unlikely to land with the Raiders [Oakland Tribune] [...]
June 4th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I think plax is worth a long look. He is or was an all pro with playoff and super bowl experience. League minimum and incentives is worth it. Maybe he can teach Bey how to run a route and catch.
June 4th, 2011 at 10:38 am
[...] Raiders don’t appear to be a realistic landing spot for WR Plaxico [...]
June 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I get the Sporting News, but I didn’t get that pro preview thing though.
In this weeks edition, they have some FA’s and where they think they will land.
They had Nnamdi going to the Eagles, and the Raiders picking up Santana Moss (friend of Soup) and Jamaal Brown to play RT (would be awesome).
Interesting though, they had us picking up Ricky Williams, and implied that he will replace Mike Bush as the backup, due to Bush hitting FA.
What’s up with that? I thought he signed the tender and was under contract.
Was Bush in Georgia for camp Soup?
June 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Chris Johnson rap song, lol.
Somehow I get the feeling DeMaurice Smith doesn’t want his clients rapping about hoes and getting dome.
http://soundcloud.com/nashvillest/cj2k-act/s-TQAPG
June 4th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Not sure what is the better rap song, “Act on Deck” by CJ or “Boats and Hoes” by Prestige Worldwide.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Yeah, the owners had no clue that their employees were talking about hoes and “getting dome”. This is all a union thing. NFL owners only sign players with the highest of moral values. They would never turn their cheek at such behavior.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:49 am
If a division rival talked about us being close to a Super Bowl, it was because he watched our offensive line manhandle whatever team he played for last year.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Just saying that in this war that is being waged to garner public sentiment, dudes might want to chill on the rap thing for a few months until all this passes.
Just a suggestion.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
AlDavisMachoSupremoWhatever,
There is no strike. What are you talking about? The owners have locked the players out. The players are ready to play. Are you getting your news from Google’s 1987 archives? Might want to check the dates.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Got ya, Vegas. Just in case you were implying in any way that the players’ union is to blame for players’ behavior today. About the only moral standard today’s NFL owner has for signing players is whether or not they can play. Beyond that, they can be ax murderers, and the owners will sign them.
June 4th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Unless the Cincinnati Bengals were to tear up Ocho Cinco’s contract over this song he’s made, it’s just as much a blight on them as it is the players’ union. I don’t think the public in general is going to forget any time soon that Chad Ocho Cinco is a Cincinnati Bengal. When you think of him, you picture that Bengals’ uniform and helmet.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
About the only moral standard today’s NFL owner has for signing players is whether or not they can play. Beyond that, they can be ax murderers, and the owners will sign them.
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Every owner but that renegade Al Davis!!!
No more knuckleheads he says.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
lol. Al Davis absolutely wrote the book on signing troubled players. Wrote the book. Of course, Ron Wolf used to make sure the players were actually good, too.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Al Davis absolutely wrote the book on signing troubled players. Wrote the book.
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Exactly, he was a good 10 years ahead of his times, and the other owners are just catching up the last few years.
No Al is again the pace car, but jumping off the bandwagon of troubled players.
Al has bought low and sold high with scumbag players.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
*Now Al is again the pace car.
The early stage Alzheimer’s again. I can’t type and/or notice the difference from Now, Know and No.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Al Davis hasn’t changed. He does the same thing now, except now he’s on his own, and he couldn’t spot a good player if his life depended on it.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
After the past decade, mythologizing Al Davis is now officially a symptom of dementia. What more proof does anyone need that the man was a fraud all along? He was a low level tool for some low level mobsters. He used a loophole to steal the Raiders’ from their rightful owner. He brought in Ron Wolf, the actual football guy, to build him a team. By putting out a bunch of propaganda, through those silly newsstand specials about how great the Raidahs are, he’s tried to take credit for Wolf’s work, while barely mentioning him. Since Wolf has been gone, the only consistent success the Raiders have had was under Jon Gruden. From 2002 to 2009 the Raiders had not won more than 5 games in any season. No NFL team has ever reached such a low. As I said, those who still mythologize Al Davis are demented. They used to just be full of it. Now with damning evidence right in their face of Al being a fraud, and their insistence on mythologizing him as some sort of genius, they are truly showing signs of being insane.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
2003-2009, I meant to say. Of course in 2002, the Raiders went to the Super Bowl, with Gruden’s team, and got crushed by a team Gruden was coaching.
June 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
lol@MR sitting here, just desperate for someone to talk to.
GET UP OFF YOUR AZZ AND GO GET A LIFE.
June 4th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I would jump for joy for s moss. The perfect vet.
June 4th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
mr
do you know Ron wolf? Had he himself told u he was the man here?
Or are u just talking.
June 4th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Are you seriously asking that dude if he knows Ron Wolfe? he knows Ron alright but the last name is wuff wuff!! it’s the stinking mutt he sleeps with.
June 4th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
As compared to you, TJ, desperately wanting everyone to think you have an in, that you’ve “talked with” all these people, only to be proven you’re a fraud?
Funny how you repeatedly comment how you “talked to George” about so and so, until it’s pointed out that George thinks you’re an idiot, and when you call Raider talk, he hangs up on you, while everyone in the background laughs.
June 4th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
This would have been a nice pick up for the organization:
In nine years as Green Bay’s general manager, Ron Wolf made many of the moves that turned the Packers into one of the best franchises in football. Now Wolf’s son is climbing up the Packers’ organizational ladder.
The Packers announced today that Eliot Wolf, who is entering his eighth season with the Packers, has been named assistant director of player personnel.
“Eliot is an important part of our personnel staff,” Packers G.M. Ted Thompson said in the team’s announcement. “Over the years, his responsibilities and duties have continued to grow. His contributions to our efforts in pro scouting have been tremendous, and he has taken on more in the college scouting and draft preparations. We believe this adjustment is an appropriate recognition of his continued growth within our personnel group.”
The 28-year-old Wolf served as assistant director of pro personnel for the past three seasons and a pro personnel assistant for four seasons before that.
Wolf’s bio on the Packers’ site says he started helping his dad study film when he was 10.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/03/packers-promote-ron-wolfs-son/
June 4th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
143.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 4th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Chris Johnson rap song, lol.
Somehow I get the feeling DeMaurice Smith doesn’t want his clients rapping about hoes and getting dome.
http://soundcloud.com/nashvillest/cj2k-act/s-TQAPG
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this is exactly why these fuggers need to be allowed to work. not just cuz they cant rap but also they have nothin to do. i like that phone beat tho. sad part is he sounds no different than a lot of these lame azz southern rappers. same tired slow flow but hey nothin better than hoes and dome in caddy.
June 4th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Yeah, the beat and hook wasn’t so bad.
Someone should have just told CJ2K to finish his sandwich before he started rapping.
June 4th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Everybody wants to be a star…..
June 4th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Everyone wants to be a coach and GM but none are qualified.
June 4th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Archive Tony Says:
June 4th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
lol@MR sitting here, just desperate for someone to talk to.
GET UP OFF YOUR AZZ AND GO GET A LIFE.
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Heres the deal. You CANNOT weigh a thousand pounds with out HELP! When you get so fat you can no longer MOVE that equation solves itself. When you can’t move, you can’t get your own food so you don’t eat. Until you lose enough to get the food yourself so what I’m sayin’ is MR’s Mom! Stop feeding him and giving him internet access!!!!
We know he bugs h*ll outa you but please, we hate him more!!!
Same bait every time uuughh…
June 5th, 2011 at 1:33 am
To the all the Owners except ONE
1]”There is nothing that hurts like shame,” === Shame no load, but it bruk neck.
2]”In setting a snare don’t let the bird see you,”===set trap no mek bud see you
3]”It is the water which stands there calm and silent that drowns a man,” === Braggin’ riber nebber drown s’mody
END THE LOCKOUT!!
June 5th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Raider, #156, nice post.
Numbers don’t lie, only people lie.
June 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Post 156. More doo doo from doo doo. Lmao
June 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Kirk,aren’t you the guy who makes negative comments about the players and games,then admits you haven’t watched the game?
June 5th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Not I sr.
June 5th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
R8rcain, some quick facts on Ron Wolf:
Al Davis has never won a Super Bowl without Ron Wolf.
Ron Wolf, however, has won a Super Bowl without Al Davis.
For the record, the Raiders were mediocre at best in the 1990s, when Ron Wolf won his Super Bowl as GM of the Green Bay Packers, in 1996.
The Raiders wouldn’t have a team again until 2000, with Jon Gruden.
Basically, Al Davis has never had a consistently winning team without either Ron Wolf or Jon Gruden.
These are facts. Indisputable. Your only comeback is to just wish I wouldn’t talk about it, right?
June 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Then go to Packer blog real raider hater. Got anything good to say about the team? Dam….touch whole.
June 5th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Why should I go to a Packer blog? I’m a Raider fan. I want a GM who knows how to win. Al Davis doesn’t. And that’s the point I was demonstrating. We need someone like Ron Wolf or Jon Gruden. Hue Jackson? Meh. We’ll see. I don’t think he was as coveted as Gruden was when we got him. Gruden was a successful OC in Philadelphia, running an offense with some serious weapons. I like Jackson’s personality, but I dunno. I’d rather have a GM, to be honest. Someone like Wolf. Al needs a right hand man to help him out. He’s been clueless for decades now. And, in recent appearances before the press, he’s shown signs of dementia. We can not win until he either has some kind of consultancy in the front office, or retires.
June 5th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
There’s really nothing good to say about the team as long as Al Davis is here. It’s like having a friend with an terminal disease, yet the disease operable. But for some reason, he refuses the operation. We can stand around his bed and talk about how lucid and funny he is, how sharp he is, considering his condition. But we’re all wondering, why won’t he just get the operation? He’s back to normal. If Al Davis removes his giant tumor self from the team, the Raiders at least have a chance again.
June 5th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Anyhow, I’ll check in much later. This blog is really dead. I’ll just drop in from time to time and give MY take on this team, and MY solution. You all know what it is. There’s no reason for me to repeat it constantly. However there is a damn good reason for me to make sure it’s as discussed as all of the other solutions here. So when I come in and see solutions being discussed, I’m going to offer mine. Those who don’t like it should just contact the blog’s moderators, see if they can impose a rule that doesn’t allow criticism of Raiders management. I wouldn’t hold your breath. Might be best to just grow up and realize that not everyone shares your opinion. All the best.
June 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Raiderfankirk-I meant the guy before you.Sorry for not making that clear.
June 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Mr, a couple corrections of your small dog like yapping.
A, You are NOT a Raider fan. So stop posing. You are just loanly, and very jelous of Al Davis.
B, you arnt going to check back much later, cause you never leave this blog. go back and look at the posts, you and/or one of your many fakes post on EVERY article dang near every hour. Al Davis IS your life.
June 5th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Not only is he NOT a Raider fan He Hates those who are…..That’s why he attacks everyone who tries to enjoy the team.
Just stop reading his post… and it’ll make it a lot better in here.
June 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I’ve been studying Terrelle Pryor games vs Wisconsin and Iowa. He is very raw and almost looks uncoached, it’s incredible to see this kid play the game at the level he did with virtually no QB skills. He’s every bit as big a Cam Newton with maybe a stronger arm. has great zip on the ball and can throw with touch. But his accuracy is marginal at best his ability to see the field is marginal. he can to a certain extent read defenses OK as long as it’s half the field he doesn’t go through processions at all. He stares down rec’s and at time sthrows late.
He has great leadership and is ultra competitive he’s faster than you think when you see him run and has the ability to allude tacklers in space. He’s very mobile and anticipates pressure. Thing I do like about is his command in the pocket and in games he’ll put the team on his shoulders and win. How is almost uncomfortable to watch. But he can be taugh all things he needs to learn to play at a high level. IMO!
June 5th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
I’m sorry taught*
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June 5th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Jealous of Al Davis. Ha! Now that is a laugh. Jealous of what? His success? You have to be kidding, right? If I’m jealous of Al Davis’s success, I must be REALLY jealous of the Rooneys. Or the Krafts. I must be jealous of the Green Bay Packers’ fan collective, who, btw, are the current Super Bowl champion owners in the NFL. They’re on top. No disputing it. They’re the most recent to hoist the Lombardi trophy (albeit in our backward system, most of them will never even see the trophy…but they own the team, and their team won it).
Am I jealous of Al Davis’s money? Now, this has to be a joke. Out of all famous wealthy people, he might very well be doing the worst. I think he’s the last rich famous person anyone would want to trade places with if they had the choice between him or another wealthy famous person.
Am I jealous of Al’s style? His daring ways? Really, want daring ways, anymore? I have much more admiration for Jerry Buss, who cut Magic Johnson in on the Lakers’ ownership. Funny for all of the Raider propaganda about Al being a pioneer for minority athletes, it seems he doesn’t want minorities anywhere near his team’s brain trust. How many minorities in the front office? He does have a woman, I’ll give him that. Amy Trask. But with all of the Raiders’ claims of Al being a civil rights pioneer, you’d think he’d have a desk in a high place for a black person, as well. You’d think he’d cut a black person in on ownership of the team, at this point. As far as signing black players and refusing to play games in cities where blacks have to sleep in separate hotels as whites, I think it’s safe to say the rest of the sporting world has caught up with him, hasn’t? Perhaps it’s even surpassed him, if it’s true that he made racist comments to Tim Brown about black players at Notre Dame.
I’m about as jealous of Al Davis as I was of Leona Helmsley.
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