Chiming in with a `10 worst’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, June 5th, 2011 at 3:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Profootballtalk.com is inviting readers to chip in with suggestions for the 10 worst moments of the Raiders since 1987, something the Web site is putting together for every team in the league.
OK, I’ll play along.
(Note: Tragic events which far outweigh anything to do with football, such as the deaths of safety Eric Turner and 1998 draftee Leon Bender, are not included).
1. Super Bowl XXXVII, Jan. 26, 2003: Bucs 48, Raiders 21
Wayward center Barret Robbins got the landslide rolling when he went AWOL in a haze of alcohol and mental illness, but this was all about Jon Gruden
Traded by Al Davis to Tampa Bay for two first-round draft picks, two second-round draft picks and $8 million, Gruden was in his full Chucky glory, mimicking quarterback Rich Gannon in practice and having his team prepared to dismantle the organization that gave him his chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, I know. Gruden wanted to go. Of course he did. When the boss asks “do you want to leave?’’ it’s pretty much universally accepted he wants you to leave.
2. The Tuck Rule Game, Jan. 19, 2002: Patriots 16, Raiders 13
I’ll never forget the look of Amy Trask, Bruce Allen and Mike Lombardi as they filed past the media in the press box after Adam Vinatieri’s game-winning field goal in overtime. Complete and utter shock and horror.
Walt Coleman actually was lauded in some circles for his application of an arcane rule that never passed the stink test. I’ve seen Charles Woodson hit Tom Brady a hundred times now, and a hundred times it was a fumble, with Greg Biekert recovering.
That said, proper perspective requires recognition of the fact that had Zack Crockett picked up a third-and-1 near midfield in the fourth quarter, Coleman never comes into play.
3. San Diego 27, Oakland 0, Sept. 11, 2006
It may as well have been 100-0. A 4-1 preseason had some believing that perhaps the Art Shell redux could possibly work out.
Instead, the Raiders were so shockingly inept in all areas it was clear the team was headed south in a hurry. Oakland finished 2-14, Shell was done after one year.
The comments section in this blog was the most angry I can ever remember. Fans were embarrassed and disgusted.
4. Anything to do with JaMarcus Russell
It was really more an era than a moment, but it cost the Raiders $39 million in guaranteed money for the No. 1 overall pick of the 2007 draft.
5. Bo Jackson’s career-ending injury, Jan. 13, 1991
Tackled along the sideline by Kevin Walker, Jackson sustained a dislocated hip with blood flow issues that ended one of Al Davis’ most shrewd management decisions. Going against convention, Davis allowed Jackson to be a “part time’’ football player and was rewarded with one of football’s most explosive talents.
6. Bill Callahan’s `Dumbest Team in America,’ Nov. 30, 2003
The Raiders fall to 3-9 after losing 22-8 to the Denver Broncos at the Coliseum. Whatever tenuous hold Callahan had on his team at the time evaporated when he proclaimed it “the dumbest team in America’’ after committing 11 penalties for 89 yards.
He lost Woodson and Charlie Garner, among others. Those two were suspended for the regular-season finale against San Diego after blowing off a mandatory snack the night before the game.
Callahan read a brief statement bolted from the podium at his season-ending press conference, offering a terse “No!’’ when I asked him if he was taking any questions.
7. The Randy Moss experiment
Moss was at his explosive, dynamic best all the way up to the point where he suffered rib and tailbone injuries coming down in heap against San Diego. Mostly, acquired from Minnesota and brought to the facility by police motorcade, was mostly listless, indifferent and downright strange as a Raider.
Davis reluctantly traded Moss to New England for a fourth-round draft pick at the behest of coach Lane Kiffin, and Moss caught 98 passes for 1,493 yards and 23 touchdowns.
8. Sebastian Janikowski’s 76-yard field goal attempt and its aftermath, Sept. 28, 2008
Kiffin, who entered into a Cold War of sorts with Davis in his first offseason as Raiders coach, let Janikowski line up for a 76-yard field goal attempt just before halftime that was essentially his middle finger out the door.
After a Raiders defeat against the Chargers, Kiffin was fired heading into the bye week, with Davis giving the media a memorable presentation with the help of an overhead projector. Davis fired Kiffin for “cause,’’ with one of his reasons being the reluctance of the coach to embrace Russell.
Davis said Russell would be great and for Kiffin to “get over it.’’
In the end, both men failed the players, putting their personal grudge above wins and losses.
9. Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon, Jan. 14, 2001
Any chance the Raiders had against one of the NFL’s best defenses of all time ended when nose tackle Tony Siragusa made sure his 360-plus pounds was properly positioned to separate the shoulder of Gannon, leaving the Raiders’ offense in the hands of Bobby Hebert if they were to make the Super Bowl.
Correction: The quarterback was Bobby Hoying, of course . . . he actually threw a touchdown pass to Andre Rison that was called back on an offensive interference penalty.
10. Meltdown on Monday night, Sept. 8, 1997
Elvis Grbac threw a 33-yard touchdown pass to Andre Rison in the game’s final moments as the Raiders blew a 27-13 third quarter lead and fell 28-27 in what had been an electric night at the Coliseum.
Coach Joe Bugel was in such a state of shock he barricaded himself in his office and wouldn’t speak to the media. The Raiders never opened the locker room to the press, instead sending Albert Lewis out to speak for the team.
With this kind of internal constitution, it’s no wonder the Raiders went on to finish 4-12, leading Davis to hire Gruden.
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June 5th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Yes…even with the all those disasters…
It’s always a good day to be a Raiders fan!
June 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
what about shannon sharpe down the middle burning marcus pope in the div. playoofs agianst batimore or any body heard of that player franco harris and his catch
June 5th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
BTW, Jerry…
Thanks for all the hard work…during a hard time for writers, especially football writers.
And…Gruden really did want to leave, whether or not Al wanted him to stay.
Bo Jackson’s injury deflated the entire team…his value to the team, even as a part-timer, was much more than most people might think. All the “Bo Knows” ads and PR moves showcasing his individual talents kind of overshadowed the fact he was a great teammate…and his stamp on the team’s persona was huge. He not only had the fans believing he was “it,” he had the entire NFL believing it. By far, one of Al Davis’ shrewdest drafting decisions…and Bo’s injury meant a great loss for the Raiders and the NFL.
And…that load Siragusa did in fact put his fat in just the right place to do near-maximum damage to Gannon that sad day. Another player showing ZERO regard or respect for other athletes’ well-being — no code of honor among peers. Just like Hines Ward…or even the notorious Romo…cheap shot artists who appear not to care if they cause permanent damage.
Screw Tony Siragusa, whose #1 skill was being backed by a guy named Ray Lewis.
A giant firecracker exploded in the stands as Rison caught that Grbac pass on Monday night. It was a terrible sound to go with the air deflating from the stadium, and the team. It was one of the Raiders’ worst regular-season losses EVER, not just in the past 25 years.
The good thing is…ALL OF THOSE DISASTERS ARE BEHIND US, and the future for the Raiders looks about as bright as any young team in the NFL. If a few things work out, and the team gels quickly in certain key areas, THE SKY’S THE LIMIT FOR THE RAIDERS.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Dr.Death Says:
June 5th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
what about shannon sharpe down the middle burning marcus pope in the div. playoofs agianst batimore or any body heard of that player franco harris and his catch
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Franco Harris just a tad bit before 1987 dude.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Speaking of “10″, while glancing at DVR list of upcoming set to record, NFL Network has it’s run of Top 10.
Sat, 6/11, from 3:00 to 4:00 is the following listing:
“TOP 10-NFL experts and peers discuss the biggest NFL draft disappointments, such as quarterback Ryan Leaf, and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.”
That’s how the show is discribed under Program Info.
I have a feeling JR just might also make it to the show.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Bobby Hebert would have been exponentially better than Bobby Hoying.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Can’t wait for TJPriest to tell us all how he has seen still pictures of DHB, and that the pictures show he has fine tuned his technique, and how he has “inside info” that DHB is ready to tear up the league, and is ready to be a force to be reckoned with.
Can always count on TJ to give me a laugh, that is for sure.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Who was the Raiders DC in “97 who implemented that dreadful prevent D?
June 5th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I think the tuck rule should be no. 1.if not for that gruden might have won the super bowl the year before and never left.
June 5th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Hayes, every coach wants to leave. It’s a bargaining tactic. It’s part of the negotiation process in this industry. A happy coach is an underpaid coach. When you work on a freelance basis, you keep your boss on their toes, with threats of leaving, or you get ripped off. That’s the business. The reason why Gruden is gone is because Al Davis wanted him gone, period. If Al wanted him to stay, he’d have stayed longer. And of course Al would have 4 Lombardi trophies by now, that he could take credit for while downplaying everyone else’s roles.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
What Jon Gruden asked for was modest, considering his success. Jerry broke it down once, a couple of years back. Should be in his archives. I believe it was complete control of final roster, which really just means Gruden would select the final 53 man roster from a pool of players acquired by Al Davis, and of course a salary that would put him with the better coaches in the league. Al didn’t meat those fair demands, so therefore, Al wanted Gruden gone. Period.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Hayes, if Siragusa were a Raider and slammed an opposing QB like that, you’d tell us that it was Raider football at its finest!
June 5th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
what they did not realize was they were a team.whether people like it or not al knows talent and gruden proved at tampa he was not able to control a roster.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Chuck after the talent left from Dungy’s team TB went south in a hurry and there was nothing Bruce Allen or Jon Gruden could do to improve it. Thus the firing and Gruden is always talking about why he’s no longer coaching. Some of it is really funny the FFCA is hilarious.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
I say Bruce and Gruen because all the naysayers believe Mr Davis had zero to do with what happened form 1999 to 2002.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Personally I think #2 has to go before #1. To me the tuck rule game epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Patriots run, culminating with the destruction of all evidence that might implicate them as cheaters. And the fact that everyone in the home stadium knew that the game was over prior to the call is evidence enough to prove it’s inaccuracy.
June 5th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
TRAIDER. You’re a joke and a sad sad case.
We know, u no likey Davis.
U also are not a Raider fan which makes your constant baiting even more pathetic.
Gruden mortgaged Oakland future with a boat load of over the hill palyers who coached the team for him. Davis made a shrewd move to capitalize on Gruden’s expiration date with a mass of high DPS and $8 mill cahs and new rule by the NFL that no one could ever do that again.
Davis could’ve done more with the picks and the SB was a nightmare but thats not entirely Davis’ fault is it?
Oh wait, in your warped world rality doesn’t matter…
June 5th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Al and Gruden were a team? What does that mean? Is somebody paying the both of them? Al Davis is the owner, Gruden is the head coach. And in professional football, the relationship between the owner and the head coach is a non stop negotiation. A coach that doesn’t threaten to leave when he’s not being paid his value is a coach that’s getting short changed. No owner wants to pay any more for a coach than what they have to. So the coach has to have leverage. Gruden’s demands were modest. Al meets them, Gruden stays. Al didn’t want to, because he DIDN’T WANT GRUDEN.
Oh, and of course, let’s now spin the wheel of excuses, and move on over to Gruden not being a good coach in the first place. This is an old game, being played by the Davis worshipers since 2003. In 2002, you know, when Gruden was kicking ass in Tampa, it was, “Gruden didn’t want to be here”. In 2003, when Tampa had a bad year, it then switched over to, “See! See! Gruden sucks! Al made the right choice!”
Then, in 2005, Tampa Bay wins their division.
“He wanted to leave anyway. Don’t blame Al!”
2006, Tampa tanks.
“see! see! Gruden sucks! Al made the right choice!”
2007, Tampa wins division again.
“He wanted to leave anyway”.
Give me a f’n break.
http://bit.ly/kGM70n
June 5th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
priest, Al wanted Gruden, but Gruden wanted to leave. HayesDaze said so. So, you know more than Al Davis? Al Davis wanted Gruden, wanted him to stay bad, but Gruden abandoned Al and the Raiders to be with his family in Florida. Now you’re saying Gruden wasn’t good. Al Davis disagrees, priest. Al wanted Gruden. Gruden wanted to leave. I guess you know more than Al Davis. I don’t think so. I think Al Davis has been around the league a long time, and knows more than you. So I’m going to have to disagree.
June 5th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Nnamdi21 ,I guess you know more about football than HayesDaze and Al Davis. They say Al wanted Gruden, but Gruden wanted to leave anyway. I’m going to defer to the owner with 3 super bowl trophies over some loud mouth fan with a stupid blog, like you. Al’s been there. You haven’t. Al thinks Gruden’s a good coach. Would love Gruden to be here, but Gruden doesn’t want to be here. That’s the word out of the Raiders’ headquarters, Nnamdi. So I’m going to roll with it. When you have 3 Lombardi trophies like Al Davis, then maybe I’ll start taking your word over his. Comprende?
June 5th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Davis worshipers like HayezDaze, priest, and Nnamdi21, are amongst the dumbest fans in all of sports, and they’ve demonstrated it again. Catch up with you guys later. lol
June 5th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Why would Gruden want to come back to someplace he didn’t want to be, probably because he knows what a screwball he was for leaving he lucked up and pulled the Raiders whom he knew or else we would have 4 SB trophy’s he was the only one who knew how to beat us. That team he biult was biult by Mr Davis and Gruden was lucky to be where someone else had done all his work for him. All he had to do was finish it off which give him credit for doing. But that team was setup for him. The proof is he couldn’t rebiuld it yet Tony Dungy biult another team and won the SB he should’ve won in the 1st place.
Jon Gruden owes Dungy a ring……
June 5th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Chimdi Chekwa is a player who’s going from a cover2 system at Ohio St to a man defense. He is better suited for a cover2 at this point he is a physical corner and aggressive vs the run. Has cover skills but rarely was in press coverage in the games I saw but he has makeup speed and attack the coverage aggressively has seom ball skills but needs work. His backpedal is not smooth and his transition is OK. But he cannot or doesn’t mirror well at all. He can hit and will attack the run and is capable of causing t/o’s due to the way he attacks the ballcarrier.
He needs a ton of work as far as press coverage and bump and run. Personally I think he can be good at it he just hasn’t done much of it. He would’ve been a great Pittsburgh Steelers corner and could work out well for us in zone responsibilities right away.
June 5th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 5th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Chimdi Chekwa is a player who’s going from a cover2 system at Ohio St to a man defense. He is better suited for a cover2 at this point he is a physical corner and aggressive vs the run. Has cover skills but rarely was in press coverage in the games I saw but he has makeup speed and attack the coverage aggressively has seom ball skills but needs work. His backpedal is not smooth and his transition is OK. But he cannot or doesn’t mirror well at all. He can hit and will attack the run and is capable of causing t/o’s due to the way he attacks the ballcarrier.
He needs a ton of work as far as press coverage and bump and run. Personally I think he can be good at it he just hasn’t done much of it. He would’ve been a great Pittsburgh Steelers corner and could work out well for us in zone responsibilities right away.
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June 5th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
2 min – 3 days ago – Uploaded by ESPN
John Clayton on NFL owners and commissioner Roger Goodell hold secret meeting in Chicago to discuss NFL lockout strategy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh-76a5ssL8
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I knew it, see Priesttj. They are like Isreal and Palastine.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
I was there when #10 happened. Couldnt believe Terry McDaniel (a very good Raider) let that happened.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Well that bridge better get gapped soon because a month from now with no OTA’s at all we’ll be getting ready foor training camp. I just think these people are too smart to let games be missed because look at this board now it’s desolate. people are tired of talking about the same things and they’re losing interest. Last year this time a simple thread would garner 2,000 post easy this has 25, almost a ghost blog. If that can happen here what does that say about NFL.com and NFLN. They’re running everything they can and there is no interest thye’re running Raiders SB’s to get interest and it’ll modest at best.
The golden goose is being strangled.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Tuck Rule has to be #1. Nothing like having the feeling you won the game only to have it reversed on you. It sympathize with the US Mens Basketball team that got the Olympics Gold Medal stolen from them and given to the Russians in the 70’s (?).
June 5th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Gap better get bridged sorry*
June 5th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Actually Eric Turner blew the coverage. He had deep middle.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Pretty good list. I experienced each game in some form or fashion
but seeing Bo go down like that hurt cuz that was pretty much the end of the game rite there for the raiders a total deflation especially on defense. I believe the score was 50 something to 3
June 5th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Jerry one thing I’m sure of and we can never prove because of the conditions that fateful day. Is that Zack Crockett did get that 1st down on 3rd and 1 and the refs either screwed us or just placed the ball too far back. Also something that never gets menationed is Jerry Porter getting hurt early in that game and taking away a big atheltic rec with great hands. We used James jett who scored but getting the ball back Jerry Porter could’ve made a huge difference in that game.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
R8derecain Bo didn’t play in that game he was hurt the game before. Had Bo played vs Buff I’m not sure how much difference he would’ve made but we’ll never know.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
One thing Mr Davis never do again is hire a coach based on what the players say he hired 4 coaches that way and only one was worth a damn. Art Shell the first time he did it. The next 3 times it was TERRIBLE!!!
June 5th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Oh! it was Mike White, Joe Bugle and Art Shell the second time. Lance was just a HORRIBLE mistake by Mr Davis that he will take to his grave he should’ve hired Fassell.
June 5th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Fk that……number one was june 3rd, 2001
June 5th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
And screw PFT’s list. Only and idiot believes Siragusa did Gannon in. Watch the game again in 2000. Third play of game Rob Burnett aces Barry Sims to smash Gannon. Replay showed Gannon grabbing that shoulder. Fatboy just put him out his misery
June 5th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Yup, gotta say Bo’s injury was one of the worst in Raiders if not sports history. An once-in-century athlete, debilitated in is prime. I was there in the Coliseum; from joy to that sick feeling in your stomach worst case scenario. (no one died but still…)
Although absent from the post 1987 list was the AFC championship game after Bo. Buffalo gave us a beat down so bad that the only positive play the Raiders could muster was extra=point block. A team in a tidal wave without a paddle and Jay Schroeder at the helm. Tough to watch.
June 5th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Dont know what your memory is like but the pass was to the left side/corner and Terry McDaniel apologized for giving up that TD afterward. McDaniel was our shut down corner at the time and they didnt worry about him. That was the beginning of the end for Terry McD. He was an all pro and then lost his speed.
June 6th, 2011 at 5:16 am
I think we could come up with a top 10 based solely on Jamarcus.
At least there was a little pride, especially now in hindsight, to losing a tough road game in the playoffs to the eventual SB champion (like the tuck rule).
With Jamarcus, there was never any pride, just embaressment. Games like the ATL home game, where it took us close to 2 hours after kickoff, just to get a first down, is one of the most embaressed times I ever been to be a Raider fan.
June 6th, 2011 at 5:22 am
You could come up with a top 10 worst list from any particular game highlight reel that JaMarcus played in. Being a Raider fan and watching those games, it was embarrasing and then the joke got stale and people just stopped making jokes out of pity.
June 6th, 2011 at 5:30 am
I remember those games where a first down felt like a touchdown. We’d end up with a handful of first downs for the game and you’d wonder how we even managed to score any points. That was brutal.
I am here to give thanks for being just mediocre. 8-8 ain’t all that bad. 59% pass comp. pct. ain’t bad. I’ll take it. Sunday’s used to be marked down as “L’s” before the game’s first whistle. It was a sad time having Russell as the Raiders starting QB. Very sad.
June 6th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Well that bridge better get gapped soon because a month from now with no OTA’s at all we’ll be getting ready foor training camp.
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Both sides are as far apart as ever. The players are decertified now, and the only way to quickly resolve this is for the players to admit the decert was a sham. But even then the owners have been planning for no season all along. Financially, they will lose money if there is no season, but they have enough reserves to wait out the players. The players can’t wait out the situation though. If there is to be a season, the players are going to have give up a lot more than they would have gotten back in March. Again, that is very unlikely. The season could well be lost.
June 6th, 2011 at 5:38 am
1) The Tuck Rule Game, Jan. 19, 2002: Patriots 16, Raiders 13
2) Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon, Jan. 14, 2001
3) Anything to do with JaMarcus Russell
June 6th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Is Craig Whelihan still alive? I’d take that dude any day over Boller. His moustache alone could huck the rock 45 yards with some wind.
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LOL @ Beeecham
nice flash back to 11 years ago. This guy is almost the same age as Favre now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Whelihan
June 6th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Go Heat !!!
June 6th, 2011 at 6:00 am
trade Chaz for Bobby Hebert!
June 6th, 2011 at 6:02 am
That 27-0 season opener was the game that left the worst taste in my mouth. The playoff games obviously had more at stake but that 2006 opener was a total ass kicking! I skipped the next 4 games of the season after that atrocity.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:08 am
No number one for worse moment is June 3rd,2001 when pillow biter Fairy Rice was signed. Worse day of my life and what followed Rice? Woodson never been hurt in his life gets turf toe,Darrell Russell done-zo,3 game losing streak end of 01 season where we dont get a bye, Tuck game,2002 superbowl and the 03-10 nightmare that wont end. Told everyone on ticket 1050 6/3/01 that it would be a mistake…..Bauce was right
June 6th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Lol RRS…….Heat too much for Mavs. Not fair having the King Kong and Godzilla on same team
June 6th, 2011 at 6:13 am
CARL…..i was at that 06 mnf game…..it was so obvious Merriman was roided out
June 6th, 2011 at 6:18 am
RRS….if you watch that GW shot by Bosh….wade got doubled then Lebron got doubled leaving him wide the hell open. It only gets worse from here. All vets gonna wanna go to South Beach for the next 6 seasons
June 6th, 2011 at 6:19 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 6th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Go Heat !!!
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game 2 was a little speedbump. This should have been a sweep, but no matter. Heat in 5. Crown Godzillan and King Kong already.
Go Heat.
P.S.
Laker fans, wish u were here.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Guest yeah it should be coming on broom time but Miami really wilted down the stretch in game 2…..oh well, they bounced back with a huge win on road. Big 3 especially Wade smell blood
June 6th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Plax is free! Thank god…he had no biz in jail. Glad he gets to be back with his son.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Good morning Nation!!!
As a Laker Fan, yes, I expect to be there every year, however, I know we can’t be the best of the West every year (although 32 out of 65 is dam right not bad)!
Like I said before…we will be back! And I hope Miami fans don’t think like that and think it will be an easy next 2 games…in Dallas! Dirk missed his shot, which rarely happens! Don’t get me wrong, unfortunately I know that King F Face will win one because no one can deny his talent…but I think The Mavs will at least take them to 6!
June 6th, 2011 at 6:38 am
The ten worst moments in Raiders history? Really?
I realize that there’s not a lot going on at the moment, but did you really have to resort to this drivel?
Usually my biggest gripe about this blog is the fact that so many commenters go off on their own little tangents, completely ignoring the substance of the blog itself. In this case I can’t blame them.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr…..lol lakers back? When? Dilbert is lifeless. As for mavs…..in all honestly ever since the sweep of Lakers, Dallas has been been outplayed by OKC aand Miami. Not having Caron Butler is showing now otherwise they prolly walk to title
June 6th, 2011 at 6:42 am
Oldschool……pft is garbage for that. Bringing up alot of hurtful moments
June 6th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Mavs can win if they keep Peja off the floor and Kidd stops turning it over. Dirk, Terry, Marion and Chandler are no scrubs. I hope it goes 7, good games to watch so far.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Hey Bauce, maybe not next year…maybe not in 5, but that is always that one thing I know…they will be back! Although with Jerry West up here in Oakland…the West has just gotten interesting…
As for Dallas…I will give them one more win…and if Dwyane Wade does NOT get the MVP…something is wrong!
June 6th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Wade has been the MVP so far, no doubt.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Heat in 5. Write it down.
June 6th, 2011 at 6:50 am
…….If Jesus got Lebron, I got Deeewayne Wade…..
June 6th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 6th, 2011 at 6:42 am
Oldschool……pft is garbage for that. Bringing up alot of hurtful moments
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I agree Bauce. I am surprised that Jerry took the smelly bait. Must be desperate for a story line. What’s the point in wallowing in old frustrations?
June 6th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Raiders for life Says:
June 5th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Who was the Raiders DC in “97 who implemented that dreadful prevent D?
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All the other 10 ten worst are in the past. But this comment is part of the now. It worries me.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Good morning people.
Guest and RFL,
I assume you guys are implying it was Bresnahan at DC in ‘97?
If so, that’s not the case..so you guys don’t have to worry. He was an asst w/ the Colts in ‘97.
Chuck B arrived with Gruden the following year. He was def backs coach in ‘98/99 under Chuckie.
He was promoted to DC in 2000 until 2003. Which happens to be the last time Oak was in the playoffs and their run D was any good.
So, we shall see.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Siragusa’s fat a$$ flop was the worst.
THe Tuck Rule was BS, but the team still should have one that game–
I remember Leo Aragus (the punter) doing things that were really really bad— luckily I have forgotten most of them.
The loss to Pitts last year was ugly too
June 6th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Man I will never forget all those moments man. I think they got all the bad experiences up front, but for me it will still be Bo Jackson getting his hip busted aginst the Bungel’s.
My favorite Raider and football player of all time and they were making a playoff run for the Superbowl. With Bo around another 5 years I think they would have got it. Not to mention the next year they had Ronnie Lott join the team who was blowing people up at safety even past his prime.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Siragusa’s fat azz was also fined 50 grand by the league afterwards. Which was a rather large fine back then.
Of course there was no flag on the play. Go figure. Wouldn’t have brought Gannon back, but still.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:35 am
I think you have to put the Bo Jackson injury at #3 at least. It was a devastating loss, especially when combined with Al Davis’ idiotic benching of Marcus Allen in the subsequent year or two. We lost two HOF RBs before their times, but for drastically different reasons.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:38 am
That Bo injury left a bad taste in my mouth…kind of knowing then that we are not going to replace him…heck, no one can! That ‘06 Monday Night Opener at home against a first time starting Phillip Rivers and LT running all over the darn place…that was when, even though we were 4-1 in the preseason…we were crap…and with Randy Moss giving up…well…
June 6th, 2011 at 7:42 am
CJ,
Lott was a hell of an addition. Greatest DB I ever saw play. I was glad to see him in silver & Black for a brief moment. Went to probowl and lead the league in int’s as a Raider.
But even of bigger signigance than Lott, was the addition a few years later of Jeff Hostetler, IMO.
‘Ol Hoss was a tough SOB, and gave the Raiders a legit Super Bowl caliber QB. Imagine if that offense in ‘93 that shoulda beat Buffalo in the playoffs had a healthy Bo Jacson at RB. With Timmy in his prime at WR.
AD might have another Lombardi in his trophy case.
The lament of what might have been. Sigh.
June 6th, 2011 at 7:54 am
The Hoss man…he was a tough SOB! Didn’t he come right after the Giants won the SB with Christie’s wide FG kick? or was it the year after…can’t remember…But yeah, if Bo was healthy and Al didn’t screw with Marcus…a SB caliber QB with a helluva one two punch at running back…hmmm…
June 6th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Speaking of that ‘93 team,
I was watching NFLN awhile back, and Darryl “Moose” Johnston was on. He was answering an e-mail about the current Cowboys and how they hadn’t won anything yet.
His response was interesting. He said it takes a lot more than just talent. He said the most talented team he ever played against in his entire career was the 1993 LA Raiders. And then he said” and, what did they win?” Ouch.
I started thinking, that guy played in some great rivalry games against some SB caliber Niner teams and then Favres Packers.
That ‘93 team should’ve at least gotten to the AFC championship game, though. They got screwed in Buffalo. (I know, I’m a weak minded conspiracy theorist). Lol. All Raider games are officiated on the up and up.
Imagine if that team had Bo at RB, though. They woulda been a tough out.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:02 am
I was at that game when Siragusa’s fat azz injured Gannon. We camped out all night before the game with many others on the streets outside the stadium and the feeling was we were on our way to the Super Bowl. I can remember the excitement the night before with all the fans partying all night long, some guys had big screen TV’s in the back of their pickup trucks.
One play ruined our chances once Gannon was gone it was over.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Too weighted towards recent history. What about the Immaculate Deception? That should’ve made the Top 10. I might also nominate Tatum and Stingley.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Davy Jones,
The PFT article ties this into the work stoppage. So, it’s only supposed to go back to the strike of ‘87.
I was reading through the Minnesota Vikings top 10 list, and a lot of their fans were doing the same thing.
Bringing up their 4 SB losses and “wrong Way” Jim Marshall. Other fans were pointing out to them that it’s only since ‘87.
You think the Raiders have problems…read the Viking fans list of grievences. lol.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:18 am
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June 6th, 2011 at 8:18 am
LOL, there it is in the first line. I guess when I see a top ten article I go straight to the list and skip the fine print. Thanks, BR.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Boy, it’s hard to narrow down the Raiders’ worst moments since 87 to 10. There are dozens to choose from.
Jerry did a fine job, but I offer a few alternatives:
1. The trade of Jon Gruden (could be top 5);
2. Brett Favre’s big-night on MNF after his father died, when the Raiders didn’t even seem to try with the whole country watching;
3. the 51-3 debacle in the 1991 AFC Championship (which I attended);
4. Marcus Allen shredding the Raiders’ defense twice in 1993;
5. and the 2006 offense, maybe the worst in the history of pro football. It may not count as a “moment,” but neither does “Anything having to do with JaMarcus Russell.”
And there are so many others!
June 6th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
MR Janet was 11 and I was 9 dummy. As we both grew up she became fake and less hot.
June 7th, 2011 at 9:57 am
10. Meltdown on Monday night, Sept. 8, 1997
Oh… Man… I was at that game. The defense completely disappeared halfway through the 3rd quarter. It was horrible.
9. Tony Siragusa’s belly flop on Rich Gannon, Jan. 14, 2001
Another game I attended. The only time I EVER got to attend an AFC Championship game. I STILL hate “Fat Tony”.
June 7th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
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I loved Callahan’s dumbest team comment. Was he wrong? Hell no!
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