Raiders should be taking hard look at Pryor
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, June 12th, 2011 at 11:27 am in Oakland Raiders.
I made my case in today’s Bay Area News Group print editions that it’s a no brainer take disgraced Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the draft and worry about what position he’ll play later.
That goes for the Raiders and virtually any other team in the league, but when you get right down to it, Pryor would be a classic Al Davis pick.
Pryor’s getting bashed pretty good among talent scouts as being a reach as a quarterback. Maybe so, but a 31-4 record with two BCS bowl wins that included MVP awards is at least worth a look.
I find it remarkable so many people seem to be writing this guy off when he was so comparable to Cam Newton in terms of run-pass skill set and should come at a fraction of the cost in a supplemental draft.
And unlike Newton, Pryor has played a little receiver and looked pretty good doing it.
From what I’ve seen and heard, Pryor will be a third-round pick or later.
He’s got classic Raider speed. Talked at length with Doug Plank the former Bears’ safety who as a volunteer assistant last year with the Buckeyes. He said Pryor was the fastest player on the Ohio State roster.
Plank conceded he wasn’t sure whether Pryor’s future was at quarterback. Plank, however, played on pressure defenses with the Chicago Bears and worked Rex Ryan with the Jets and said the way to make those defenses ordinary is to get a quarterback out on the perimeter, causing them to break down and become ordinary.
Having grown up in Pennsylvania near Pryor’s home town of Jeannette, Plank is admittedly biased. But he swears by the kid despite the issues swirling around him, most of which have to do with accepting tattoos or money for memorabilia.
Pryor was one of the most celebrated recruits in the history of college football, a fearsome power forward who originally committed to Pitt on a basketball scholarship. He was fawned over by adults for years, and he’s probably finding out right now most are bailing out on him in the wake of the Ohio State investigation.
Sounds like a guy who could use a heavy dose of veteran leadership, plying his trade around players like Richard Seymour and with an energetic coach such as Hue Jackson.
He was a football-basketball star on the level of Ronald Curry, and it’s not too difficult to imagine Pryor being a super-sized Curry if quarterback didn’t work out. I don’t see Pryor as a guy who would be a regular, old-style tight end, but how about someone like Antonio Gates or Shannon Sharpe, who were essentially receivers more than they were in-line blockers.
Pryor will surely want to give quarterback a shot and he deserves at least that. But that wouldn’t mean he couldn’t be utilized in other ways. You see it happen all the time in college. Players see a faster way to the field, and are all of a sudden more receptive to a position switch because they want to contribute.
I checked with the NFL and was assured a supplemental draft can still be held, lockout or no lockout, and there’s no reason to believe Pryor won’t be given a chance to enter it.
You select Pryor for the same reason as running back Taiwan Jones _ explosive ability that is simply too intriguing to pass up at a bargain price.
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June 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
1st.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:39 am
I agree this kid at least deserves a look. Too much talent to not have a chance to crack a roster spot.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:53 am
If tj likes this kid Im sure AL will give the green light on him. It’s no secret tj has an eye for talent, especially qb’s….see JaMeatball Ruffell.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Jerry, I agree. He would be a classic Al Davis pick.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Raider J Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 9:10 am
UFL works as an in season “farm system” for the NFL. UFL players can be picked up by NFL teams at any point during their season.
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I hear you. However, why would I commit myself to being a farm team for the NFL when the NFL is not partnering up with me. They already got their farm system in the Arena League (which I can’t stand). I seriously doubt the UFL goes into this thinking “hey let’s be their farm team”. I think it is a bad business decision on their part. In that time of the year there are 2 official football leagues playing to the public already…the NFL and NCAA.
Right now is a dead space and we are all miserable without any football. Basketball is wrapping up and it’s down to MLB (yawn). It’s not like the majority of the UFL players have options to play in the NFL. They dont. They’d play anytime of the year the UFL chooses. UFL should be playing now rather than August.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
From your mouth Jerry to Al’s ears.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
[...] Raiders should be taking hard look at Pryor I made my case in today’s Bay Area News Group print editions that it’s a no brainer take disgraced Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor in the draft and worry about what position he’ll play later. [...]
June 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I said b4 and will say it again there were QB’s picked in the 1st rnd who didn’t prove a thing more than this guy has and they were picked 1st overall 8th and 12th what’s the difference between Cam Newton and Pryor? not much in fact I think Pryor can be every bit as good as Kaepernick.
I thought Kaepernick was faster but maybe not. I think people tend to dismiss running QB’s as lessor players because they run fast. I’ve watched pro football for 47 years and I can’t understand why they feel that way. I’m talking about pro-personnel decision makers. They all feel that way I’ve always viewed it just the opposite.
Going all the way back to Haven Moses who was a borderline HOF WR who IMO was a better QB than WR but because he was black, they wouldn’t let him play QB. I gaurantee Pryor can be a better QB than anything else but he needs to be developed, the mistake that coaches make is they take the easy way out with these guys and use their athletic skills against them. Instead of using it as a strength. Pryor is already a great athlete he doesn’t need to be taught that. It comes natural and so does his leadership. He needs someone to coach him the same way they coached Montana and Payton Manning as though he doesn’t have the athleticism then you benefit from both. But they want instant gratification that’s why Vick was never coached until NOW!!
Hue Jackson would be wise to get this kid sit him and teach him the finer points of playing QB. He has all the entangibles needed he’s smart he’s got great charisma he’s a natural leader. He’s tough and ultra competitive just finish him off and polish his QB skills and you’ll have a tremendous talent. As good a talent as you would ever need at that position but the naysayers will say he can’t do it. In this kids case they are dead wrong………….period
June 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
In the supplemental draft? Cheap? Hell yeah.
Thanks for taking time out of your weekend to drop us a line Jerry.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Pryor is blessed with great athleticism. However, Ohio State could well have been 31-4 with someone else playing quarterback for them. It’s not like they don’t have the track record.
I’ve seen him play several times, and I don’t see the guy as a potential NFL quarterback. Some of the things he did on the field in college would get him cut in the NFL. Jerry (and others) openly say that he might not make it as an NFL quarterback, and that he’s nothing more than a project. Why would you waste a draft pick on a guy that would either completely flop as a QB or that you would have to convert to another position he’s never played before?
Add that to the obvious character issues the guy has, and I’d rather use my draft picks on players that have already proven themselves to have been able to play their positions at a high level in college, and that can contribute to the team without the high-risk factor that Pryor seems to embdy.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
I make one post to Ohioraider and now everyone is jumping on the Pryor wagon. Even Jerry Mac is on. I feel honored and would like to be mentioned in the byline.
June 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Excellent points made by Teach…
Pryor is no closer to being prepared for QB at the NFL level than JaMarcus was. On or off the field.
Where there is athleticism, there is hope. Where there are known character issues (not just questions), nothing good will come about.
Is Pryor so exceptional that people will ignore his character issues if he plays well enough? Does he have the like-ability factor to overcome his past with mainstream fans? If he doesn’t, nothing short of spectacular will ever be good enough.
A player doesn’t have to be a starter to affect a team’s chemistry, either. We don’t need to waste time baby-sitting those that need it, or answering questions on issues that take away from the TEAM goal.
We just got rid of some character issues…why add one intentionally?
June 12th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I personally like Pat Devlin as a guy to sit and learn. I think he played with Wiz 2 at Penn St. in 07-08. Could get him on the cheap also.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
ET you could say the same thing about evry QB drafted in the 1st rn dof this past draft. So what makes him soo different. Jake Locker was downright terrible at times has no pocket presence and his accuracy in the pocket is atrocious. He got outside the pocket and made throws he can play but he is no better than Pryor not one iota. The same is true with Cam in fact I would argue that the only really proready QB drafted in the 1st rnd was Ponder. And certainly kaepernick is no better. I gaurantee you Pryor could go to anyone of their schools and put up better #’s aside from Cam.
HD37 what character issues are you talking about that thousands of other kids don’t have playing in this league right now. Payton Manning took money 8+% of these players take money………Come on man!!
June 12th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
sorry 80% of the players in this league have taken money. You guys have your heads buried in the sand.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
This is such a racist preposition… Pryor “deserves a chance to play quarterback”… Do tell why? Because he has no footwork, makes poor reads and despite top two overall talent, still managed to lose 4 games??? Is he better than Cordell Stewart? The whole trading autographs for tattoos sure smells like crackwhore judgement to me… If he comes into camp and is ready to wear a jersey with an 80-89 number on it, maybe a forth round pick. Comparing Pryor to Cam Newton is like saying, because Sydney the albino walrus pukes when he eats cheese, we should never watch PBS. While both are true in the abstract, it is just a poor use of a mixed metaphor to expose faulty logic.
Too often the soft prejudice of lowered expectations leads to institutional bigotry. Facilitating a 1 in 500 chance that Pryor will become only the second QB since the LBJ administration to make it the league… Is just something the Raiders should not do.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Well toadboy that is your opinion, it aint a good one but it’s yours. I judge Pryor based on his own play and in comparison to the other QB’s recently drafted he stands very well.
I watched him play in the Rosebowl and get the MVP at QUARTERBACK!! I watched Jake Locker as well very close and I know damn well Jake is FAR FROM the finished product.
Pryor has very bit as good a chance as anyone recently drafted there is no doubt in my mind. He is definitely better than Jake Locker……………….period
June 12th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
priesttj Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I said b4 and will say it again there were QB’s picked in the 1st rnd who didn’t prove a thing more than this guy has and they were picked 1st overall 8th and 12th what’s the difference between Cam Newton and Pryor?
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Cam got 200K and Pryor got 8 cars. That’s the only difference. Put them in each other’s jersey and you couldn’t tell the difference.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
This is such a bad idea on so many levels. I was able to watch every game of Terrelle Pryor’s career, most of them in person. I am a die hard Buckeye fan as well as an alumnus of the university. I will also be the first person to tell you that his 34-4 career record as a starter is very deceiving. Let’s look at the 4 losses, in short 3 of them were the best 3 teams he has seen in his college career, (2008 Penn State, 2009 USC, 2010 Wisconsin) the other was an inspired Purdue in 2009. He also played a good amount in the both the 2008 game against USC and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl against Texas he just didn’t get the official start. He has made a living on using nothing but his natural athletic ability and rarely won a game by being a “true” quarterback. When he needed to step up and be a QB, he folded. While he is a much better player than a JaMarcus Russell he is still just as qualified to play quarterback at the next level. On the topic of his “playing some wide receiver” he averaged 1 reception a year while at Ohio State and was never asked to do anything more than go in the endzone and catch a jump ball…so it is pointless to say he has played a good amount of WR in college. Ok, I am getting off my soapbox now…I am just glad he’s gone.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Carolina should take a flyer on Pryor for insurance. One of them will pan out.
June 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I think Pryor should get a shot considering his race and his upbringing. One of the good things about pro sports is that it gives poor minorities an additional opportunity to escape poverty, and, that’s one of the few good things about sports anymore. Is that racism? Sure it is. But it’s counter to a bigger, institutional racism. If we can get rid of the institutional racism at the highest levels, then there would no longer be a need for things like affirmative action. Until that day, programs and even charity that gives poor minorities an advantage are all that keeps poor minorities in America from being either indigenous, or even enslaved.
June 12th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
3 points…
1- raiders already traded away 3rd & 4th round picks for 2012… so those picks are out
2. I see value in using a 5th rd pick for him.
3. the 39$ milly and bad work ethic killed Jamarcus’ potential which was unlimited…pryor is his own man; he is not jamarcus,locker, vick, cam, …etc we will see
i think he is worth the risk for 2012 5th rd pck in the 2011 supplimental draft.
June 12th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
spkcrow… i thought he looked good against Oregon in the Rose Bowl a few years back.
i also give the kid credit for choosing Ohio st/ pro style offense over Rich Rod’s Michigan/ spread… he embraced that challenge even though it did not work out.
he now faces an even bigger challenge but probably is more prepared for it had he chosen the easier path
June 12th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Art Schlichter the second
Stay away from buckeye QB’s
June 12th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Buckeye fans hate the kid because the program just got exposed and they fault him for it.
June 12th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
He(Pryor) is definitely better than Locker-bullsh!t.He MAY turn out to be better than him but to say he is definitely better now is wrong.Locker played with a team of scrubs while Pryor played with a team of blue chippers.Priest,I understand how you believe more black college QBs should be given more opportunities to succeed in the NFL,but it seems to me at times you go to extremes.
June 12th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Pryor played better than Locher in college.
The NFL is a different set of parameters.
Pryor could still be better than Locher, it will depend on where he lands.
Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Belichek uses the 3rd round pick on we traded to them to draft Pryor.
Raiders should use a 4th on Pryor.
June 12th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
We already are in hock for picks#2&4. If we pick him up in the third, next years draft will be all about the #1 Raider pick, unless we deal that when the season opens for another Seymour-type player, and more? Wild things will happen….
June 12th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
10.edward teach Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Pryor is blessed with great athleticism. However, Ohio State could well have been 31-4 with someone else playing quarterback for them. It’s not like they don’t have the track record.
I’ve seen him play several times, and I don’t see the guy as a potential NFL quarterback. Some of the things he did on the field in college would get him cut in the NFL. Jerry (and others) openly say that he might not make it as an NFL quarterback, and that he’s nothing more than a project. Why would you waste a draft pick on a guy that would either completely flop as a QB or that you would have to convert to another position he’s never played before?
Add that to the obvious character issues the guy has, and I’d rather use my draft picks on players that have already proven themselves to have been able to play their positions at a high level in college, and that can contribute to the team without the high-risk factor that Pryor seems to embdy.
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ET, you summed it up pretty well. I don’t see much point in giving up draft picks on a gamble either.
Al does too much effin gambling.
When the Raiders were great you could take chances like that but not now.
June 12th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
26.lefty12 Says:
He(Pryor) is definitely better than Locker-bullsh!t.He MAY turn out to be better than him but to say he is definitely better now is wrong.Locker played with a team of scrubs while Pryor played with a team of blue chippers.Priest,I understand how you believe more black college QBs should be given more opportunities to succeed in the NFL,but it seems to me at times you go to extremes.
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What I think everybody needs to understand (and a few do) is…each of the kids drafted this year, plus Pryor and others, have the same basic chance to make it in the NFL, regardless of where they are selected.
If somebody with Pryor’s tools comes in and succeeds, it’ll be no more a surprise to me than if a Gabbert doesn’t make it. They all have talent, or they wouldn’t even be invited to participate.
And, BHP — The average college player doesn’t need 70+ reminders from his coach, through handlers and family even, to get back on track. Pryor never got back on track, and from all appearances, he never even tried to… a big F U to his teammates and the rest of OSU. That’s what I call a character issue…and one not shared by the average college player.
We’re close to being a good team. We can’t be counting on the Richard Seymours of the team to coax maturity out of players who intentionally lack it. And, I don’t think sending asst. coaches as babysitters is gonna get it done anymore (like it did last time?).
Gimme the young adult who shows he learns from his mistakes…not the one who flips-off his own team and university as he gets his and splits.
June 12th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I think Pryor should get a shot considering his race and his upbringing. One of the good things about pro sports is that it gives poor minorities an additional opportunity to escape poverty, and, that’s one of the few good things about sports anymore. Is that racism? Sure it is. But it’s counter to a bigger, institutional racism. If we can get rid of the institutional racism at the highest levels, then there would no longer be a need for things like affirmative action. Until that day, programs and even charity that gives poor minorities an advantage are all that keeps poor minorities in America from being either indigenous, or even enslaved.
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This can be misleading because a lot of minority pros come from households with two parents. Those families have the money to get their kids into good sports programs. Look at Cam Newton, Reggie Bush, and countless others. Two parent households. Don’t believe the hype.
June 12th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
locker isnt better than pryor. locker shouldnt even have been a 1rst rnd pick. mallet was way better than him. locker doesnt have great mechanics and was more athlete than qb. since he’s white nobody says that but dare let a brotha be athletic playin qb and thats all people see. vick had the best year of his career and u still have dumbazzez sayin he didnt play in the pocket.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
yo
June 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
some of u are also too damn self righteous. this talk of character says nothing about him as a competitor or person. the man took money and tattoos. where is the crime? a lot of these guys take money that we dont even know about. some of your favorite players may have taken money and youll never know about it. reggie bush was stupid for not payin the people back who hooked him up or otherwise they wouldve stayed quiet.
we are talkin 3rd rnd or later for pryor who is a talented raw competitor. he wont have to play for 3-4 years while developing his craft. he has every chance to succeed or fail as these other qbs and i believe he will compete just as hard to do that. we need to stock pile talent which is what the best teams do.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
toadboy Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
This is such a racist preposition… Pryor “deserves a chance to play quarterback”… Do tell why? Because he has no footwork, makes poor reads and despite top two overall talent, still managed to lose 4 games??? Is he better than Cordell Stewart? The whole trading autographs for tattoos sure smells like crackwhore judgement to me… If he comes into camp and is ready to wear a jersey with an 80-89 number on it, maybe a forth round pick.
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Seriously? I’m not a Pryor fan, but my god… THIS is the most racist thing I’ve read in quite some time.
Why does Pryor deserve a shot to play QB? Well, by that logic, why does ANY rookie deserve a shot to play QB? Plenty of players, no matter what their race, have questionable mechanics, footwork, or ability to read defenses, but nonetheless get a chance to be coached up at the NFL level. Particularly ones who have had anywhere near the amount of success Newton has at the college level. Hell, why did Tebow deserve a shot at QB? Why does Greg McElroy deserve a shot at QB? Stephen McGee? Ricky Stanzi? Or ANY late-round QB for that matter?
But no, the big black guy is automatically a receiver or tight end, nothing else. Talk about “crackwhore judgement”…
Pryor is worth a 5th round supplemental pick. Wouldn’t give up anything higher, but in the 5th he may be worth the risk if Hue is looking for a project and thinks he can work with Pryor. Particularly because Pryor has skills that translate to other positions if he doesn’t pan out as a QB. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some team bids higher than a 5th on Pryor.
I would still rather see the Raiders get Josh Portis as a UDFA, though.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
I just don’t understand why the majority of people, when confronted with problems that government has created, start screaming for more government.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Had to leave and just got back. Lefty12 you call me saying Pryor was definitely better than Locker going tooo far??? Are you kidding me??? Locker flat out sucked Left………..period
I watched him miss wide open rec’s multiple times in games. He read defenses like a blind man. Half the time when guys were open the ball was late. Constant over and underthrows. The guy only completed 55% of his passes because whenever he scrambled he completed a high % or else he would’ve been around 50%. There were teams that didn’t think Locker should picked until the 3rd or 4th rnd at best and that was due to his soph and junior years because had they gone only of his senior year that dude wasn’t even draftable.
No Lefty12 I didn’t go too far I didn’t go far enough……………..locker sucked……………period
June 12th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Also IMO Pryor didn’t have any better rec’s than Locker did if you watch both rec’g corps Ohio St rec’s were average at best the same is true with Wash there were no high rated rec’s at OSU and the running games were similar as well. Polk is a highly rated HB even more so than Herron at OSU.
I watche da lot of Locker for the past 3 years all the way back to when Marcel Reece was there. he’s worse than he was when he was a sophmore. At least pryor got better. There is not doubt in my ind Pryor is better than Locker.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
YA toadboy just spoke for a lot people ot there who believe they play the ni$$a anywhere but QB because he just isn’t smart enough. Same ole Same ole the song never changes.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Sitting here talking about Prior with Papa N Law and he’s just shook his head and said, what as a WR?
LOL!
We’re talking 3rd string QB PROSPECT/ Possible WR.
I’d give up a 3rd in next year’s draft no problem.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Cmon Miami, REALLY ???!?!?!?
Are you really going to go out like this?
Wassup with your boys Priest??!!!??
June 12th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
They let this series get away 3 games ago IMO when LBJ stood around and watched Dallas play. Dallas is way too good for Miami to give them games they were gonna be harde to beta anyway. When I saw LBJ being a spectator i gave up on the Heat.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Sometime syou ahv e to lose a series like this in order to win one. IMO the Heat still don’t understand how to plat together. The series proved it.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Jhill had you father saw Locker he would’ve said the same thing…………trust me.
June 12th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Take LeBron off the court and the Heat go on a 7-0 run.
Hmmmmm ….
June 12th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
They better not suspend anyone for this “skirmish”, lol.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Priest,
What kinda credit do you give Spoelstra for benching LeBron to get back into the game?
June 12th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Spoelstra took way too long to realise that Bibby sucked and that LJ should’ve been posting up he has been TERRIBLE!!!
Gotta go!
June 12th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
i’ll take Terrelle Pryor for a 3rd or 4th rounder.
the Raiders need help at QB & WR.
plus I’m sure 2 TE sets with him & Zmiller as receiving options would be intriguing to say the least
June 12th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
spoelstra sucs a s a coach…
June 12th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
the man took money and tattoos. where is the crime?
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Come on Armond, that is a major foul in college sports. He was suspended by the NCAA, and now the IRS is on his case for unreported income.
Just shows incredibly poor judgement, and incredibly poor respect for his teammates and school, which he massively let down.
Now, with that said, I still take a flyer on him with a 5th rounder, lol.
But I doubt he ever starts an NFL game at QB, and I wouldn’t be all that suprised if no NFL team drafts him in the sup draft.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
What kinda credit do you give Spoelstra for benching LeBron to get back into the game?
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First half +/- for Lebron is -14, worst of any player
June 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
UDFA targets:
OT/OG Byron Bell
OT/OG David Mims
OG Justin Boren
OG Zach Hurd
DT/NT Ian Williams
DE/DT Brandon Bair
DE/DT Cedric Thornton
QB Josh Portis
QB Pat Devlin
S Mana Silva
S Joe Lefeged
S Deunta Williams
WR Ricardo Lockette
FB Henry Hynoski
FA targets:
OT Jammal Brown
OT Tyson Clabo
OG Reggie Wells
OG Harvey Dahl
DE Dave Ball
WR Santana Moss
I’d like to see Dahl or Clabo/Brown in FA, and Mims/Bell, Silva/Lefeged, Bair/Thornton, Hurd, Portis and Williams as UDFAs.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Jhill,
LeBron missed 2 free throws and turned it over 3 times already
he needs to play better in the second half tonight if the Heat are to have ANY shot at making this a 7 game series
I expect more from DWade as well, but to be fair he’s been carrying the team through the first 5 games against Dallas
June 12th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Spoelstra has E House on the bench when he is a better shooter than bibby….E House is a natural zone buster
June 12th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
DT/NT Ian Williams
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Would have him at the top of the list would help impact our run d…
June 12th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
YA,
the Raiders would be lucky to get 2 players out of that proposed list of “UDFA & FA targets”
Al Davis usually waits until the dust settles and every other team gets a hold of their favorites. Then he sorts through all the trash to find a guy he thinks is better than them all. a true diamond in the rough
June 12th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
If we go after a vet WR Steve Smith would be my first choice.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Jason Kidd & Dirk were complete non-factors in the first half … surprising!
Jason Terry is putting this team on his shoulders with a little help from Marion & Stevenson
How can you take Dirk out of the game and still trail by 2?
Pathetic.
This is the same let down I feel when watching Raider games. So much more talent than the opponent, but we shoot ourselves in the foot. Costs a W with all the bonehead mental mistakes and penalties
June 12th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
yeah terry is shooting lights out…Will cool off this half…
June 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
The inability to follow known rules is a character issue. It is a prime component of criminal behavior. The jackdaw reasoning that would imperil, a career, season, school and cast a long shadow over your judgement and is synonymous with addictive personalities. In terms of racism, crack and meth addiction is first a human problem. If one. Were predisposed to look at stats, this sickness effects caucasin more than African Americans. So calling the use of this term racist, is in fact racist.
“Giving him a chance” is code for “lacking crucial skills.”. In the real world, opportunities are earned, at the family picnic you give little Judy a chance to throw lawn darts.
The comment about playing quarterback? I just checked my flux capacitor and the deLorean has not been fired up, so I think it is still 2011. Reflect on the high light package of Pryors greatest plays, are they with his feet or with his arm? If he throws, is it into a thight window or is it to an NFL prospect running a crossing route against an accountant?
To review his ressume:
No significant Pro Style experience at the QB position
Lost three times as many games as he should have in college
3 of 4 losses came against teams with equal talent
Poor decision making, in personal and vocational aspects of his life
Does not own a llama named Greg. <== no Super Bowl winning QB ever has
Puts his own interests ahead of his team mates
Yeah, this is just the kind of guy the Raiders need under center.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
If we go after a vet WR Steve Smith would be my first choice.
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I don’t like Smith. something about having 2 smurfs on the field at the same time. plus punching teammates, throwing other guys under the bus, criticizing coaches, etc. his play has declined too
Thec – you were right on the money with JFord though, so I take everything you say into consideration. You may know better than I
I’d rather have Terrell Owens or Plaxico Burress. Maybe even T.j. Housh
June 12th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
roflmao flux capacitor….
June 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Rock, what up man?
Plax, and TO would also be good options…
2 little blue guys would be an issue as they both are the same player however, would you like Smith on the chargers?
June 12th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
It’s not a frickin secret what the NFL is looking for in a franchise QB…
1. Good mechanics.
2. Accuracy.
3. Leadership and IQ
4. Potential
These are some of the stuff they are looking for.
if you know that and you know you’d be rewarded with a 50 mil contract if you meet those requirements, then you better make sure you give them that image of yourself. The NFL usually does not care about your win/loss or mvp awards in college. Or else the ANNUAL heisman winner would be the 1st overall pick, which isnt the case.
By making a bunch of dubious decisions and tat himself up as if he is Lil Wayne’s twin (exaggeration) aint gonna help when your potential employers already have some bad stereotyping of your skin color already. That’s the reality.
June 12th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
would you like Smith on the chargers?
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It really wouldn’t bother me …
Jackson, Floyd & Naanee are probably gone
who would start opposite SSmith?
Patrick Crayton or Buster Davis, LOL
June 12th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
stick a fork in the Miami Heat.
LeBron James isn’t playing any better in the 2nd half
Bosh & Wade might make it competitive in the 4th, but Haslem, House, Chalmers & Anthony aren’t gonna dominate the Dallas starters
Congrats Mavs/Lakers fans !!!
June 12th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Dirk already has 9 points in the 3rd quarter
Dallas is up by 7. coincidence?
June 12th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Not over with yet…LBJ need sto step up big in the 4th or they are done, WADE is playin with a hip, so its up to Lebron…
June 12th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Miami doesnt look like it is playing with a sense of urgency. I frickin hate their halfcourt offense. It’s like having a bunch of thoroughbreds (spelling) built for the Kentucky derby and asking them to run the equestrian instead….SMH
June 12th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Miami doesnt look like it is playing with a sense of urgency.
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Exactly. Dallas has them on the ropes, getting ready to deliver the knockout punch
Dirk is money in the 4th and LeBron is invisible
keep both players on the bench and it would be interesting, but you know that won’t happen
June 12th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
I put blame spoelstra for the lack of a half court offense…
June 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I would describe the Heat as lethargic & defeated tonight. the Home Crowd deserves better than what they’re getting
like I stated earlier, reminds me of the Oakland Raiders
June 12th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
cant blame spoelstra for missing 12 fT’s…
June 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Mr sometimes you have some good points, but mostly dumb shzit.
June 12th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
He should be given a chance because of his ability. Wtf does color haveo to do with it?
June 12th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
75.raiderfankirk Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Mr sometimes you have some good points, but mostly dumb shzit.
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ROFLMAO….Truth
June 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Very generous.
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Raiderfankirk Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Mr sometimes you have some good points, but mostly dumb shzit.
June 12th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Thec, give me Fords #’s for 2011
June 12th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
vegas, u know how i feel about these guys takin money. a ton of these guys are getting things behind closed doors or havin contact with agents. that doesnt make them BAD. theyre not innocent but not bad. unless some actual crimes he committed come out i dont see him as a problem. the NCAA is full of sh!t. a lot of these programs dont half care if these guys even graduate. u see guys who go from wearing baseball caps and fake mall bling to Gucci caps and real diamonds on campus then u know somethins up and they kept quiet. why, cuz they wanna win. they knew he was gettin money while he was there but becuz he helped them win it was okay. when these brothas take the money illegally its cool but when u have to pay them legally now they trouble makers. they mostly are young kids doin what a lot of youngins do. if he was on some pac man jones ish then id be weary.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
I knew as soon as Priesttj said the series was “OVA” after game 1, that the Heat were in trouble.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
aig, plenty of guys are tatted up in the nfl. peoples perceptions change cuz they want them to. the system is fugged and i dont believe in makin people like u. michael jordan had a clean image and he was one of the worst mofos. he had a gamblin problem that got his father killed. lil black kids were bein stupid killin each other over his over priced shoes while malaysian kids was bustin azz in sweat shops makin them. nike and mike made a fortune and that rat bastard said NOTHIN!! i hated those be like mike commercials. dude was an azzhole to teammates and was a worse husband but he fit the IMAGE of what we should be while cats like iverson were demonized. cant stand mj, he wasnt a role model.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
That other idiot, Bauce Fool was sure the “Stern” was going to “fix” the series in favor of the Miami Hasidic community.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
KK are you really puerto rican?
Bauce says your half blk half white like mickey mouse..
June 12th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
KPDk…did you not just watch the blatantly bad calls on Dallas? At one point in 4th quarter dallas had been to line only 10 times compared to miami’s 31! It was obvious as hell but Miami choked major at the line. Dallas gets credit cuz game 6 was only game they outplayed miami. They didnt choke it off And allow the storm troopers to get a chance in game 7
June 12th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
The disparity in fouls was crazy KPDK….but I dont think there is much disparity in your racial make up right?
June 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
KK is busy polishing his wifes doc martins.
June 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
KPDK….u tellin me the refs called an even game tonight? Dallas should have blew miami’s doors off tonight…..had not been for FT s miami loses by 25 after that effort…..its like a hitman botches a hit
June 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
KPDK is listening to Abba’s greatest hits
June 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
That other idiot, Bauce Fool was sure the “Stern” was going to “fix” the series in favor of the Miami Hasidic community.
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What an ignorant dumbass!
June 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
KPDK DID U EVER HAVE THE MULLET ?
June 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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Two ignorant dumbass’s, geez!
June 12th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Stern’s storm troopers were at work KPDK…anyone who saw the game saw that. I guess when Miami had ball you were having photo finishes rushing to the toilet you let another bomb go
June 12th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
KPDK….isnt half of you already down to off the other half?
June 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
KPDK…TAKE YOUR OLD ASS off the computer and go read the funny papers
June 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
I wonder does Mrs. KPDK buy baby wipes for KPDK
June 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
KK is busy tweeting Anthony Weiner.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
He used to doit but now KK buys direct form 0b@ma.com
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
I wonder does Mrs. KPDK buy baby wipes for KPDK
June 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
KPDK still mad Ive exposed your bs?
June 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Mista…thats not tweeting lol
June 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
KK after you polish your wifes doc martins does he give you a tip or just a sponge bath?
June 12th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
KPDK prolly gonna cry and pout about being clowned again by me….go ahead you wimp and play Modest Mouse until you feel better
June 12th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Thats what they call it at his barbershop.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Mista…naw she wouldnt dare touch that loser now
June 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
I thought the Heat got a few calls, but the Mavs didn’t go the line as much, because they make and take a lot more jump shots.
Besides, they had Cardinal and that French dude just hacking dudes on command. Seemed it was Carlisle’s plan a little, make them earn it at the line and no easy baskets.
3 technicals on the Heat and 1 on the Mavs as well.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
i dont believe in makin people like u.
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@Armond,
I dont disagree with you when it comes to Michael, Bird or Magic. Heck even Joe Montana turned out to be an aaahole to his neighbors too. The key thing is this is still a BUSINESS. Like it or not, you have to treat it as a business and keep within the boundaries of business fundamentals. When you’re asking your customer (a potential nfl team) to spend a gazillion on you, you have to make sure you reassure them. A NFL team that makes the wrong move on a franchise QB will kill not only the HC but set the franchise back a few years too. That is why you need to be squeaky clean. Look at that dude (mallet) from Arkansas, he lost a bunch of money becuase he didnt manage his image well. That sucks but that’s life. We all dress and behave well in our job interview no?
June 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
-24 on the +/- for Lebron tonight.
I look at boxscores during the regular season, and you might go 3 weeks before any player ever has a -24 in a game.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
People say they need to pay the players, but if that is the case it has to come from the NCAA or TV rights, not the school.
Ohio State LOST a few million this year in the bowl game. Yes, lost money in a BCS bowl game overall.
North Carolina football lost millions all of last year, and seriously considered declining their bowl bid due to financial issues.
College Football makes CBS a ton of money, and provides a ton of high-paying jobs at the schools.
But they are not cash cows for most schools. Bball is much more profitable for universities.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
JFB,
dude, you crack me up with your stats. Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man or that other dude in the Hangover. You’re a walking stat machine man. Too funny man. BTW, had my best driving range session ever tonite. Can’t wait for August.
June 12th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
VR……carlisle is a good damn coach always has been but all coaches arent gonna allow easy layups or dunks……miami was given a 5 star meal and turned it down lol. I mean if dallas was shooting so great how was it even a game?
June 12th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Pretty cool right AIG, he doesn’t even use google to find those stats, he keeps em all in his mind. Also purp lips doesn’t use a teleprompter for anything over 3 sentences!
June 12th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
and I aint hatin on dallas….they are the champs and glad for j kidd because he beat the odds and now is a top 2 or 3 PG in nba history
June 12th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
So now we play waiting game on cba until august huh fellas? Will be nothing but baseball and A’s suck
June 12th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
VR totally agree but its already unfair because big name school players are getting paid lol
June 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
@Brown,
dude, you really should stop. I think you are obsessed with Obie. Mancrush???
June 12th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Don’t want to say I told you so but… You fuggin right I”m going to do somethung!
60.Carl Weathers Says:
June 6th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Mavs can win if they keep Peja off the floor and Kidd stops turning it over. Dirk, Terry, Marion and Chandler are no scrubs. I hope it goes 7, good games to watch so far.
I”m going to do somethung!
June 12th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Wow, I thought Miami would still pull through by sheer talent but the Mavs were so clutch. A bunch of midgets finally won an NBA title (Kid, Barrea, and Terry). Glad Donnie Nelson won one and his effed up father could never do it as a gm or hc. Mark Cuban is a class act. Very nice of him to let the original owners, hc and players take the spot light. Wouldnt mind having him as part owner of the Raiders someday after Al is long gone.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Lebron James is the most overrated player in NBA history.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Lebron James may be the most over-hyped player in NBA history…but ain’t no way is he the most overrated.
Lebron James is a great player who hasn’t learned how to be a champion yet. His strengths (and weaknesses) are the same now as they were 15 days ago…and back then, a lot of people thought he finally had lived up. Not quite. If he matures a little bit, he’ll probably get himself a title or three. Even then, people will say he’s overrated.
June 12th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
“Oh! Plaxico is the hottest FA on the market!”
Lets hope SO! Lets hope Nnamdi never makes it to the open market and finishes his storied career with the Raiders…
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/plaxico-buress-free-agent-kellen-winslow-vince-young-jake-locker-sizzle-fizzle-060911
Note the Crabtree story. Drama!!! Bey hasn’t done squat but Crabs no great shakes either AND an A hole.
Well done Al. Like MR’s Mom says: “No to Crabs!”
June 12th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Excellent suggestion Jerry and a well built case.
Clay to be molded and if he flops, not a tremendous JamArcus sized pancake.
H/W/S? Sign him for a song? Train him up at another spot?
Ah the Silver and Black…
June 13th, 2011 at 12:34 am
106.aig-raiders Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
i dont believe in makin people like u.
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@Armond,
I dont disagree with you when it comes to Michael, Bird or Magic. Heck even Joe Montana turned out to be an aaahole to his neighbors too. The key thing is this is still a BUSINESS. Like it or not, you have to treat it as a business and keep within the boundaries of business fundamentals. When you’re asking your customer (a potential nfl team) to spend a gazillion on you, you have to make sure you reassure them. A NFL team that makes the wrong move on a franchise QB will kill not only the HC but set the franchise back a few years too. That is why you need to be squeaky clean. Look at that dude (mallet) from Arkansas, he lost a bunch of money because he didnt manage his image well. That sucks but that’s life. We all dress and behave well in our job interview no?
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no doubt but my point would also be that these nfl guys contradict themselves 2. look at jimmy smith and where he was drafted. it may be a business but at the end of the day its football. mallet did cost himself some money and there are several teams that couldve used him before the pats got him. now if its just a football issue then whatever. goin just off character when we all know its about winning never made sense to me. pryor and locker are the same qb to me so getting a guy like that from the 3rd on is worth the risk. no way i would do a 1rst or 2nd. id rather do a 4th but we dont have 1. i would just like us to stock pile some more talent now that the environment is better. i also dont believe takin money and talkin to agents makes u bad. he’s not innocent but he aint no jail bird either. hell we drafted dmc and his family has a rough background. we’ve had no off field trouble from him.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:05 am
It seems Armond that the Russell debacle has someof the folks who are another persuasion to look ascant at any QB who resembles Russell in any way. Thus the Bruce chants in the stands when it was obvious to a blind man he wasn’t much more than a backup. The fact that Camp had not endeared himself yet made it worse. But the mention of a black QB in here draws the ire of those miffed at Russell. Thus the jajason remarks and the let himm play TE remarks when it comes to Pryor but they see a similar talent in Locker and he’s a sur fire NFL calibre QB. Pryor did twice as much with OSU that Locker did at Wash and he had talent. So don’t buy that crap.
Lefty12 is my respected friend in here no one better but when it comes to this subject he gets agitated and we tend to bump heads. Tim Tebow who was a question mark at best gets drafted in the 1st and we shouldn’t draft Pryor in the 5th. Locker gets drafted 8th overall and we shouldn’t draft Pryor in the 5th an dthey see no ineguality in that at all. It bothers the hell out of me. There are QB bust from the 1st to FA every year and yet we should n’t touch Pryor at all if we do make a WR…………….that is pure crap………….period
I watched damn near everything Locker did and let me tell ya’ he is extremely questionable as a QB but he gets the benefit of the doubt because he has the complexion to make the connection…………….and nothing more than that…………period
June 13th, 2011 at 1:14 am
And let me add the stuff that Pryor did runs rampant in collegiate sports and Jerry knows it. Thus the blog topic there are so many kids that have NFL talent taking money prostitution would be embarrassed. Yet they demonize ONE BLACK KID as the poster child for unauthorized activity in collegiate sports. It’s sheer madness!! he wasn’t the first and he damn sure wont be the last no matter what the race.
Until all of this stuff gets exposed, what am I talking about they’ll still persecute that kid. the same way their doing Barry Bonds spending $30 mill as if he was Osama bin-Laden to get a STERIOD user………pure madness..Oh! I forgot he liued to the Grand Jury an d so did Roger Clemens yet it’s all Barry.
You can’t help but recognize it for what it is racism……………period
June 13th, 2011 at 1:15 am
8RaiderReign8 Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I think Pryor should get a shot considering his race and his upbringing. One of the good things about pro sports is that it gives poor minorities an additional opportunity to escape poverty, and, that’s one of the few good things about sports anymore. Is that racism? Sure it is. But it’s counter to a bigger, institutional racism. If we can get rid of the institutional racism at the highest levels, then there would no longer be a need for things like affirmative action. Until that day, programs and even charity that gives poor minorities an advantage are all that keeps poor minorities in America from being either indigenous, or even enslaved.
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This can be misleading because a lot of minority pros come from households with two parents. Those families have the money to get their kids into good sports programs. Look at Cam Newton, Reggie Bush, and countless others. Two parent households. Don’t believe the hype.
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You’re trying to pass those exceptions off as the norm, and you’re telling me not to believe the hype? You are brainwashed by right wing hype. Shame on you for hijacking Chuck D’s phrase. He would shake his head at you.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:20 am
And for the record NO I don’t think Lefty12 is racist at all not at all it’s just a difference of opinion. I’ve conversed with him enough to know better.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:22 am
Toad breath wrote:
“The inability to follow known rules is a character issue.”
Guess this nation’s founding fathers had character issues. Martin Luther King Jr. too, for that matter.
“It is a prime component of criminal behavior. The jackdaw reasoning that would imperil, a career, season, school and cast a long shadow over your judgement and is synonymous with addictive personalities.”
lol. Did you go to school for this, or did you just fall asleep to a Celebrity Rehab marathon one night?
“In terms of racism, crack and meth addiction is first a human problem. If one. Were predisposed to look at stats, this sickness effects caucasin more than African Americans. So calling the use of this term racist, is in fact racist.”
That is the funniest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. I’ve never seen a bigger example of a dumb person trying to sound smart. Everyone, just read that, for kicks.
“Giving him a chance” is code for “lacking crucial skills.”. In the real world, opportunities are earned,”
Wall Street earned that bailout?
June 13th, 2011 at 1:58 am
WOW, mr is saying another poster is dumb, but trying to “sound” smart. Think about that for a second…
Hey smart guy mr, wouldnt the correct way to type that sentence be….
( “That is the funniest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. I’ve never read a better example of a dumb person trying to write smart. Everyone, just read that, for kicks.” )
Whos dumb?
June 13th, 2011 at 2:17 am
Would Orton be the starter over JC in Oakland?
June 13th, 2011 at 2:48 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Excellent suggestion Jerry and a well built case.
Clay to be molded and if he flops, not a tremendous JamArcus sized pancake.
H/W/S? Sign him for a song? Train him up at another spot?
Ah the Silver and Black…
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H/W/S?????
June 13th, 2011 at 3:43 am
How in the hell did you guys manage to make using a draft pick for Prior an arguement over racism?!
Why does it have to be racism just because you disagree?!
Using a 3rd pick for Prior is a gamble pure and simple.
He’s not going to be any kind of back-up for Campbell right now.
We can’t afford to go stockpiling players in case they have potential!
Did you people forget that our OL REALLY needs some help. Al let a sound guard go in Gallery because he annoyed him and then let Satele go!
The only probable returning starter is Veldeer who was getting a lot of help from Gallery!
On top of that Campbell needs serious back-up.
When we were great we had the luxury of stockpiling players but you can’t do that when you have gaps the size of the Grand Canyon.
June 13th, 2011 at 3:58 am
ENGLANDRAIDER…
I yeah I wonder how they manage do that all the time as well..
June 13th, 2011 at 4:10 am
Really getting sick of people defending the ridiculous behavior of these so-called student-athletes like Pryor.
Is it fair that universities make millions on their football programs while the players get peanuts ?
No.
But that’s life. And life isn’t always fair.
Is it fair that head coaches at programs like Ohio State and Auburn get paid millions and their star QB’s and players can’t even get a free meal ?
Nope. It’s beyond absurd.
But here’s the reality…
The young men recruited by these programs agree to play football on Saturday in return for a scholarship.
If they’re smart, they take away an education and a degree that should benefit them their entire lives. A few will go on to make fortunes in the NFL.
We shouldn’t forget that they’re students, even if it’s blatantly unfair that untold millions are being made off their exploits on the gridiron.
Now, if a student like Pryor is having a difficult time making ends meet, I find it hard to criticize him for taking some gratuities to get by.
Don’t have the dough to eat properly ? Not enough money to dress decently ? Can’t afford decent transportation ? Then I can understand the temptation to stretch or break the rules in order to have these necessities.
But we’re not talking about basic necessities in this case.
No, we’re talking about making thousands for signing memorabilia. We’re talking about driving very expensive automobiles. We’re talking about breaking rules to get a bunch of freaking tattoos.
We’re not talking about an impoverished kid doing whatever he has to in order to get by day to day.
I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for Pryor. He doesn’t deserve it.
This is not a defense for the NCAA football establishment. That whole structure is rotten and corrupt to the core.
But let’s not try to portray Pryor, and those like him, as innocent victims or scapegoats being unfairly punished by an unjust and prejudiced society.
That’s nonsense.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:29 am
Is it fair that head coaches at programs like Ohio State and Auburn get paid millions and their star QB’s and players can’t even get a free meal ?
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Not sure about other schools, but Russell Sheppard LSU WR, said in the last Sporting News that he and other athletes get 3 meals a day 9 months out of the year, free. And obviously if he is talking about it, it is allowed.
Not sure where it comes form and he didn’t elaborate on it.
He also said that he use to think that players should be paid. Than he started dating a non-scholarshiped student, and said he was amazed at how much everything cost and how much he actually got for free, and now no longer feels they should.
I believe he said he thinks he is going to get about a million dollars of benefits over 4 years.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:34 am
JFB,
dude, you crack me up with your stats. Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man or that other dude in the Hangover. You’re a walking stat machine man. Too funny man. BTW, had my best driving range session ever tonite. Can’t wait for August.
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The minor in statistics will never leave me, lol.
I like looking at box-scores and standings, what can I say.
Stats can be misleading at times, but they are actual facts. You can debate the reason (which is so much fun) but you can’t debate the number.
I’ll be ready in August. Are you going to be in town in the morning, or are we playing in the afternoon?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:41 am
I wouldn’t get mad at a kid, if he is taking a few C-Notes here and there from some boosters.
But even if they start to pay players, they are only talking about a few thousand dollars a year. Not like they are going to pay them 20-30K, not even close.
Terrelle Pryor was involved in a pretty big-scheme, that was illegal for eligibility purposes, put his university and thus underclassmen at risk of playing under violations, and may have been even illegal since he didn’t pay any taxes on it.
These kids that drag their name through the mud for a little money (in Pryor’s case they are talking about maybe 40K), are really jumping over a $20 to get a $5.
The difference in his first signing bonus will be a lot less than 40K. He should be a late 1st/early 2nd prospect, but since he completely scrwed up his last year, is in the sup draft instead of the big boy draft, and now has these character flaws, he will be drafted much later and lose a lot more than 40K.
Poor judgement.
June 13th, 2011 at 6:30 am
H/W/S = Height, Weight, Speed
Jared Gaither will be a raider…100%
Santana Moss…95%
Lebron = most overrated player in NBA
June 13th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Time for all the bandwagon jumpers to get of the Heats ship. Bunch of front runners.
June 13th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Someone asked Lebron for change for a dollar after the game. He only had $.75, seems he can never find that fourth quarter…
June 13th, 2011 at 7:14 am
Lebron in Cleveland was the most beloved player in the NBA, but he couldn’t pull through in the clutch and win the big games. Lebron in Miami is the most hated player in the NBA, and still can’t pull through in the clutch and win the big games. Wonder if he questions whether it was worth it…
June 13th, 2011 at 7:25 am
So I’m still waiting on the names of these vets that are going to flock to the Heatles.
Going to be interesting to see Duncan give up his bird rights and head to Miami for their mid level exception.
Nene will end up in Miami somehow. He says he wants to play there, I’m told. He’s a RFA, so maybe he just signs his one year minimum deal then signs the mid level in 2 years? He doesn’t need the 10 million plus per year he could get by not giving up his Bird rights.
It’s all about flocking to South Beach, lol!
June 13th, 2011 at 7:52 am
All the rules and FA stuff will change in the NBA for the next CBA, so he knows how things will go.
I actually wouldn’t be suprised if the Heat broke up the big 3 in a year or two.
They don’t play well together, too much ISO. And that bench and other two starters are awful.
They also don’t have many draft picks, as they traded a bunch of their future 1sts to pull off the sign and trades and cap movement to get the big 3.
They blew a big opportunity this year, and I don’t think things will get any easier for them moving forward.
June 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am
It’s all about flocking to South Beach, lol!
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I think this is such a ridiculous thought.
Why doesn’t it work for the Florida Marlins or Miami Dolphins?
You look at Dallas, and they are in another tax-free state, they may not be quite on the level as South Beach, but there is ample nightlife and trophies running around, and they are the champions and have a may better home-crowd and owner.
If I were a player (or playa) I think I would rather live and play in Dallas, and enjoy my two road trips to Miami every year.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:04 am
I actually wouldn’t be suprised if the Heat broke up the big 3 in a year or two.
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Lebron is a fraud. He is great in the regular season but when it really matters, he is just another guy on the team.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:05 am
As much as I don’t like Cuban, and despite the fact that the Mavs took out the Lakers, I will always have a special place in my heart for this Mavs team for halting the LeBron era for at least one more year.
And the cherry on top was LBJ’s comments afterwards….his image takes another giant hit….and of course Chris Bosh collapsing after the game in a crying fit. Good stuff!
June 13th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Bucher called Lebron a “glue-guy” for Miami on the SVP show a few days ago.
I thought that was pretty funny.
To me the most amazing part of the Kings demise was not offensively but defensively.
He continually got beat and gave up buckets due to just standing around and not paying attention. I couldn’t believe it when I would rewing plays, and see him standing flat-footed and not paying attention, or just walking on the court.
Mentally fragile.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:12 am
….and I love the fact that this series turned around in game 2 after Wade posed on that three pointer and LBJ started celebrating his first championship prematurely lol.
Goooooood Goooooood Stuff!
For me this was up there with the Giants knocking off the Patriots…..and the Steelers losing to the Packers…..or when all those teams were beating the Broncos in the SB….
…too bad the Jazz never knocked off MJ and the Bulls….that would have best ever.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Bosh and his crying games are pretty funny.
Heat shoulda kept Beasly as JFB said.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Bosh played pretty well offensively yesterday.
He went 7-9 and drew some fouls, they should have made more of an effort to get him the ball.
Defensively he is not very good at all. Just doesn’t want to go in their and mix it up, even with a title on the line.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:35 am
The funniest moment of the King collapsing was the offensive foul he drew when Barea was guarding him.
I mean, he has almost a foot and 80 pounds on the guy, and he is shoving him with off hand instead of just elevating and scoring over him.
I think I could score on Barea, and Lebron wasn’t even confident enough to shoot over him.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am
armond Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
aig, plenty of guys are tatted up in the nfl. peoples perceptions change cuz they want them to. the system is fugged and i dont believe in makin people like u. michael jordan had a clean image and he was one of the worst mofos. he had a gamblin problem that got his father killed. lil black kids were bein stupid killin each other over his over priced shoes while malaysian kids was bustin azz in sweat shops makin them. nike and mike made a fortune and that rat bastard said NOTHIN!! i hated those be like mike commercials. dude was an azzhole to teammates and was a worse husband but he fit the IMAGE of what we should be while cats like iverson were demonized. cant stand mj, he wasnt a role model.
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Just about the most true statement written on this blog – hopefully y’all are taking note of what Armond wrote here!
June 13th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Finally basketball is over.
Now what no football no Tiger woods?
June 13th, 2011 at 8:45 am
I will be pissed if Phil Jackson goes to Miami.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:46 am
@666
US open is going to suck this week without TW. Well I hope Strickler wins.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Pryor?!?!?!? Your kidding right? Pryor doesnt have the skill to be a good qb in the nfl. He isnt a good enough passer. I watched him play alot over the last few years, and every year i waited to see if his passing game would improve, im still waiting. More hype than substance, his throwing motion is atrocious, his accuracy is suspect, and his decision making is beyond shakey. Plus all of the off the field baggage makes him some one worth staying away from.
Pryor is a poor mans vy, only not nearly as talented.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:47 am
LOL!
Riley is not hiring PJ.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I will be pissed if Phil Jackson goes to Miami.
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I just thought the same thing a few days ago. It will be either Riley or Phil as their next HC. BTW, dont be surprised if Dwight goes there. The current team is flawed. 2 superstars playing the same position and another jump shooting big man. Bosh got the ball in the middle of the key and passed it back out. How can he call himself a big man?
June 13th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Pryor = Kim Newton
June 13th, 2011 at 8:53 am
AIG
Doesn’t it seem like all sports are lame this year with this lockout?
June 13th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Can we finally stop comparing lebron to mj & kobe? Its not even close. Not just because of the george costanza type, “i just got out of the pool” shrinkage. Not just because he doesnt have the trophies. But because those guys are just better players, with better more rounded games.
lebron needs a mid range game, and a post game. He has a physical edge over almost anyone who guards him, he needs to take them into the post and abuse them. This is what kobe and mj did that is why they lived on the foul line in the 4th quarter. Lebron is not a good 3 point shooter, but he can get hot occasionally. he cant always get to the rim when the defense zones up. He needs to develop that mid range jumper because that is what beats the zone.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Mistic,
Really?
You wouldn’t take Prior over the 3rd string QB we have on the roster now?
June 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Yo JFB,
I should arrive around noon to 1pm and we can get an afternoon round. I am tempted to come in earlier and play 2 rounds at Paa Ko Ridge just to make it worth while. Someone just bought my big bertha 2002 irons this morning on ebay. Planning on getting a new set if my brother can’t ship out my Wilson PI5. They got a fantastic deal on Callaway X-20 right now (<$300). What are you semi-pro bloggers playing with now?
June 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
lebron isnt kobe or mj, he isnt bird or magic. lebron isnt barkeley or wilkens. You never saw these guys tank the way the frozen one did. lebron needs to change his tag line from witness to witness protection, because his game was nowhere to be found.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am
MJ’s conscience is all about money. Has he ever made a satement about anything worth talking about? Has he ever taken a stand on anything? And he never will he’s all about himself and his empire.
Guys like Kareem, Wilt put their careers on the line for things they believed in and Kareem is still paying for it until this very day. Bill Russell same thing but these guys now since MJ aren’t concerned about anything besides the marketablility.
I’ll take Magic Johnson on and off the court before MJ, dude is the most selfish superstar I’ve ever seen. Scottie Pippin said what he said about Mike and LBJ because I think he believed it sure there was some personal dig there. But LBJ is viewed by teammates and players around the league as a team oriented player as well as the best player in the league.
There’s nothing wrong with LBJ except normally players have to go through something to reach the top. His entire life basketball has come too easy for him and for the first time in his life it’s confusing and difficult the threw some defenses at him he’ll see in his nightmares until he gets back there. When a player of his stature is confused you see them do things out of character and they get frustrated this is the first time he has a difficult hurdle to conquer. You sometimes have to lose one in order to understand how to win one.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:58 am
666
Yes this is the worst time of the year and especially this year for me. No Sharks, W’s, Raiders and A’s are not watchable. I was really looking forward to the US Open. I watched the St. Jude yesterday and golf does not have any superstar right now. Karlsson is one of Europe’s best players and he was choking all over.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:58 am
I live in Columbus and grew up in MI so I have no bias when it comes to Pryor. They hate Pryor in Columbus right now but what do you expect when you give a freshman jock the keys to the city. You don’t expect him to turn the lock? I blame him for being cocky and Tressel for being a foolish wiseman.
The kid is a talnet but I saw him play in the Miami game and he made all his plays down the middle of the field. He can’t throw an out pattern to save his life. May not make it as an NFL QB but a cheap talent why not. If he sucks cut em!
June 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
# J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Mistic,
Really?
You wouldn’t take Prior over the 3rd string QB we have on the roster now?
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i get your point he is far more talented than our number 2. but i think you can find a free agent to fill your back up rolls, that have nfl experience. Guys like mark bulger, for example.I dont think pryor will ever be a quality starter, and then there is the knuckle head factor. No thanks.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:59 am
157.aig-raiders Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I will be pissed if Phil Jackson goes to Miami.
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I just thought the same thing a few days ago. It will be either Riley or Phil as their next HC. BTW, dont be surprised if Dwight goes there. The current team is flawed. 2 superstars playing the same position and another jump shooting big man. Bosh got the ball in the middle of the key and passed it back out. How can he call himself a big man?
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Phil in Miami would be perfect for them. Hope it doesn’t happen.
With the new CBA coming up I doubt there is a way Miami gets Dwight, unless they trade two of their “Big Three” to get him.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:01 am
BTW, dont be surprised if Dwight goes there.
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Wow!
143.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 7:56 am
It’s all about flocking to South Beach, lol!
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I think this is such a ridiculous thought.
Why doesn’t it work for the Florida Marlins or Miami Dolphins?
You look at Dallas, and they are in another tax-free state, they may not be quite on the level as South Beach, but there is ample nightlife and trophies running around, and they are the champions and have a may better home-crowd and owner.
If I were a player (or playa) I think I would rather live and play in Dallas, and enjoy my two road trips to Miami every year.
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Maybe you guys can chop this up on the course, lol!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Yo Bauce,
You called it dude on Stern. They tried their best to give Miami game 7 but those dudes couldnt make a free throw to save their season. Reminds me of the 1 game in Phoenix where they made sure Barkley and Co. wasnt going to be swept by Chicago.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:07 am
What are you semi-pro bloggers playing with now?
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Callaway X Driver
Callawyay X 5 wood, 7, and 9
Nike slingshot 5 iron – PW
Vokey 60, 56, and 52 degree
Scotty X
You should stop through So Cal before you head back to Memphis. We could play the PGA courses, then I could take you back to the neighborhood to slap some bones, get blunted, and hang around a bunch of sistas.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Lebron James stfu….please. True mj never made any statement on anything, but i think its a good thing for micheal. Why? Most athletes are completely out of touch, and havent read a book since green eggs and ham. How many times have we heard an athlete speak on a real world issue and sound like a complete idiot. Its better to be silent and thought of as a fool, then it is to speak and prove it true.
besides if we as a society are looking for entertainers to lead us in morality or social consciousness than shame on us. Entertainment business is not the place to look for role models or heroes. just the facts.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:11 am
i get your point he is far more talented than our number 2.
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And there it is.
Isn’t it about upgrading the talent?
You’re telling me this guy is “far more talented” than Boeller, but you’d rather have Boeller?
Hmmmm …
June 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Lebron has no spine and those post game remarks was very unnecessary..
June 13th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Interesting you got a 7 wood Callaway X. I was thinking about buying it to replace the 3 iron. The current callaway X20 does not come with the 3 iron.
BTW, stop playing with those cheating Vokey wedges. My brother uses that and it’s disgusting how he can stop the ball on a dime with those cheating groves.
Thanks for the offer on SoCal maybe I will swing by when we move back to NorCal next year. Thousand Oaks got good courses there.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Mistic….fk MJ…he tried gettin a Prison built in California. Come on you know that place is destruction for blk men and that punk was trying to make dough offf of them
June 13th, 2011 at 9:17 am
cats like iverson were demonized.
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Armond defending my boy Allen Iverson ???
LOL, I thought I’d never the a lucid comment from that guy …
June 13th, 2011 at 9:17 am
LBJ is not mentally tough. Dude has people kissing his rears since middle school. Hard to be tough when you got people calling you the chosen one and king before you even earned anything. He is mentally very weak like Chris Webber.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Lebron has no class. I heard him after a win in Cleavland call his teammates his supporting cast during and interview. He walked off the court without congratulating the celtics after they kicked his a$$ in the playoffs. Now he suffers an epic flop in the finals because of his own weaknesses, and instead of admiring that he needs to improve, he takes it out on the little guys, the fans.
lebron we watch sports to forget about the challenges in our own lives, its an escape. we dont need you to remind us of how much better your life is than the rest of us. why are you rubbing our noses in it? You signed the contract and celebrated during your decision show. you celebrated during game 3 and got smoked. You want the money the fame, the women and endorsements but you cant take people rooting against you?!?!? news flash sports is about rooting interest, and not everyone has to be in your corner. get some tougher skin, sack up work on your game and shut up.
Thanks for playing & good night.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:19 am
you crack me up with your stats. Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man or that other dude in the Hangover. You’re a walking stat machine man.
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LOL @ JFB
AIG, yes we all know that Vegas is a stats wh0re
you might as well throw me & BCZ in that category too
June 13th, 2011 at 9:20 am
And Chris Bosh are u serious man? Falling to your knees and doing the “hiccup” lil kid cry? Super soft.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:20 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Mistic….fk MJ…he tried gettin a Prison built in California. Come on you know that place is destruction for blk men and that punk was trying to make dough offf of them
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Agreed, i cant stand jordan the man off the court. I would never teach my children to emulate people in the entertainment business.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:20 am
174.Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Lebron has no spine and those post game remarks was very unnecessary..
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Yet “vets” will flock to SB to play with this guy?
Ridiculous!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
big time college sports is corrupt as can be.
To stop the corruption, all the colleges have to do is recruit student athletes who value a full college scholarshiop, room, board and tuition.
The problem is that these hypocritical schools recruit these economically poor, instant gratification influenced youth who were bad students. Some of these kids do not value the scholarship at all. Valued at $120K or more.
These students value the spending money and gifts more than the scholarship.
The schools need to step up the standards. As long as the NFL/NBA insists on these kids coming through the college ranks…then the kids will eventually raise their standards to a point where they will value the academic value of the scholarship and not be so likely to run under the table for money, tattoos and cars.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Mistic….was disappointing to see Lebron rip on us poorer folks…..he reminds me of KPDK
June 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
he tried gettin a Prison built in California.
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Really????
That’s actually a smart business move.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Jared Gaither will be a raider…100%
Santana Moss…95%
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irjonny,
let’s hope NOT!
re-sign Khalif Barnes and go get Owens or Burress in FA
June 13th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Jhill…well some guys will still go there. Now others wont cuz lbj will quit on them
June 13th, 2011 at 9:27 am
No to Terrel Owens….guys havent we had enough of loser 49ers?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:28 am
James, Wade & Bosh aka “the big three” got served a healthy dose of humble pie this year.
they got what they deserved and they got exactly what they needed to make them outwork every team in the NBA next year. hard work + extremely talented = championship
Dirk & Co. wanted it more and they got it
Miami Heat will hoist the trophy next year. Sign Iverson!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Jhill….no its not to profit on ppl’s misery…..especially your own. I hope he dies soon
June 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I think the funniest part of all of this is Spoelstra getting the blame.
Spoelstra = bum coach b/c LeBron can’t come through?
Coaches are as good as their player, plain and simple.
If LeBron plays well in the 4th qtr of this series, the Heat win and Spoelstra is the coach of a championship team.
Is PJ a bum coach b/c Gasoft’s feelings were hurt and he didn’t show up?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:30 am
guys havent we had enough of loser 49ers?
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BAUCE::
You’d take Bruce Gradkowski & Nick Miller over Troy Smith & Terrell Owens ???
June 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Chris bosh with the snot bubble crying in the hall way, disgusting. What ever happened to man hood?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I think the funniest part of all of this is Spoelstra getting the blame.
Spoelstra = bum coach b/c LeBron can’t come through?
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kinda like Tom Cable
June 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
RRS….i dont know now….lbj literally quit on the team and Bosh is a lil girl. They outplayed Dallas for most of this series and didnt want it. Then the King disses poor people. I cant roll with that cuz I come from a poor background
June 13th, 2011 at 9:32 am
no its not to profit on ppl’s misery…..
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Really?
Do you feel that way about the folks who profit off the drug and alcohol trade?
Funeral homes?
Liquor stores?
Church?
Just curious?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:33 am
RRS….yes I would
June 13th, 2011 at 9:34 am
# J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I think the funniest part of all of this is Spoelstra getting the blame.
Spoelstra = bum coach b/c LeBron can’t come through?
Coaches are as good as their player, plain and simple.
If LeBron plays well in the 4th qtr of this series, the Heat win and Spoelstra is the coach of a championship team.
Is PJ a bum coach b/c Gasoft’s feelings were hurt and he didn’t show up?
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I dont know if anyone noticed, but lbj doesnt even make eye contact with spoelstra during time outs. he is a classic example of a coach that has been castrated by his lack of control over his star players.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Jhill….you just used very bad examples….before I respond try again “homie”
June 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
kinda like Tom Cable
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I guess so.
I always said Cable needed an asst/HC offensive coordinator.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
All LeBron’s $$$ can’t buy that b!tch some heart. Baggin on real folk is incredibly weak. Poor Wade, though, gettin lumped in with that loser.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
RR,
Nick Miller is a “DB Killer”.
Don’t you have the foggiest gotdam idea what you’re looking at….period
June 13th, 2011 at 9:36 am
BTW, Lakers about to trade Pau for Love and Minny’s #2…
June 13th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Spoelstra did mess up out there tho. Timeout handling stunk and having Bosh ever guard Dirk was a mistake…..sad his players quit in the 3rd qtr
June 13th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Was there a basketball game last night?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 8:55 am
lebron isnt kobe or mj, he isnt bird or magic. lebron isnt barkeley or wilkens. You never saw these guys tank the way the frozen one did. lebron needs to change his tag line from witness to witness protection, because his game was nowhere to be found.
YES!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Spro was a lousy coach. Classic case of talent carrying him vs him coaching talent. His version of the half court offense is to let LBJ or Wade go one on one at the top of the key and everyone else standing around. They couldnt let LBJ post up since Bosh aka the Human Kleenex is already playing out on the perimeters. How many times did his players drive to the middle of the key, jump in the air, and tried to pass only to result in a turn over because everyone else was standing out on the perimeter?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
the Miami Heat aren’t done. the BIG 3 will remain intact and they’ll be hungry next year
cocky & arrogant doesn’t trump hunger & hard work
Dallas deserved the gold. Can’t be upset about Dirk getting a trophy
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
Man, that was a great basketball game last night! Loved seeing a real TEAM win the title last night and stick it up chokey LeDivas arse!
Where are all you Heat fans now?? LeDiva should now be called the QUEEN!
Congrats to big Dirk and especially J Kidd! One of the greatest Bay Area sports athletes of all time IMO.
Saw him play in high school and everyone knew he was going to be special back then and when he went to Cal everyone was pumped here in the Bay Area. Glad he earned this much deserved NBA Championship, which cements his status into the NBA Hall of Fame!
Congrats to the Mavs for winning the title the right way and earning it!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
“All the people that were rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. So they can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal. But they got to get back to the real world at some point.”
I wanted him to lose because I want Magic n Kobe to have more rings than this guy, never really disliked the guy tho I wasn’t a big fan of the decision, but now f this diva
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
….before I respond try again “homie”
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Or don’t respond.
It’s a simple question. If you are so concerned about profiting off people’s misery, I was just curious how strongly you were concerned about ppl’s misery.
How about healthcare? Should people not want to own a hospital or any type of medical research business?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
SnB Production Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:22 am
big time college sports is corrupt as can be.
To stop the corruption, all the colleges have to do is recruit student athletes who value a full college scholarshiop, room, board and tuition.
The problem is that these hypocritical schools recruit these economically poor, instant gratification influenced youth who were bad students. Some of these kids do not value the scholarship at all. Valued at $120K or more.
These students value the spending money and gifts more than the scholarship.
The schools need to step up the standards. As long as the NFL/NBA insists on these kids coming through the college ranks…then the kids will eventually raise their standards to a point where they will value the academic value of the scholarship and not be so likely to run under the table for money, tattoos and cars.
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These kids need a better upbringing – the old adage is “everything starts at home”.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I dont know if anyone noticed, but lbj doesnt even make eye contact with spoelstra during time outs.
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Dude bumped Spro earlier in the season when they were going through a losing stretch too. You need a big name like Phil or Riley for these guys to listen to you. It seems like Jeff Van Gundy was positioning for a Miami job last nite. I know Riley respects him.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:45 am
I always said Cable needed an asst/HC offensive coordinator
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Jhill,
I thought another year of Cable/Jackson would have done wonders for this team as well
instead you’re pitching Tollner & Hackett out the back window. enter Al Saunders with his Air Coryell roots and 600 page playbook
no more “Captain Checkdown” label for Jason Campbell.
the new slogan is Get Vertical or Go Deep !!!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:45 am
BTW, Lakers about to trade Pau for Love and Minny’s #2…
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YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Tell the wannabee king I woke up this with the same problems but I will have a huge grin all day after watching the greatest BB player in the universe CHOKE again.
He wasnt touching that question and gave it to Wade.
Some friend
June 13th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Where are all you Heat fans now??
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right here sally!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:47 am
It seems like Jeff Van Gundy was positioning for a Miami job last nite.
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You really think he’d take that job after the way they treated his brother?
That would be pretty funny.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:35 am
All LeBron’s $$$ can’t buy that b!tch some heart. Baggin on real folk is incredibly weak. Poor Wade, though, gettin lumped in with that loser.
I thought the same until he was hating on Dirk with the cough/cold sh so now I’m wondering if Wade isn’t turning Primadonna too and if Wade and Bosh are rethinking teaming up with King Jane
June 13th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Bo…..Lakers would get better overnite trading Gasol for number 2 pick. Minny has many suitors for that. Warriors in the mix. Enes Kanter would for sure be picked by us
June 13th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Lakers in 2011-12:
Kemba Walker
Kobe
RonRon/Lamar
Love
Bynum
June 13th, 2011 at 9:49 am
There’s nothing wrong with LBJ except normally players have to go through something to reach the top. His entire life basketball has come too easy for him and for the first time in his life it’s confusing and difficult the threw some defenses at him he’ll see in his nightmares until he gets back there. When a player of his stature is confused you see them do things out of character and they get frustrated this is the first time he has a difficult hurdle to conquer. You sometimes have to lose one in order to understand how to win one.
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You act as though this is the first time Lebron ever lost! This dude is NOTORIOUS for coming up short in the playoffs, and yes he HAS been in the NBA Finals prior to this series. Lebron is a regular season superstar and a playoff nobody.
Decision 2012…. Stay tuned.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:50 am
the T’Wolves would never trade Kevin Love for Pau Gasol … that rumor is crap!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
the Miami Heat aren’t done. the BIG 3 will remain intact and they’ll be hungry next year
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Far from done.
I think Lebron finally works on a post game. I also think he starts the season off at PG next year with D Wade at the 2 and Mike Miller at the 3. That’s about as talented as you can get on the perimeter. They are going to have to do a lot better than Haslem (a year older), Jawon Howard, and Ilgauskas down low if they want to win it all though.
Bosh as their 4 is not going to get it done. Agree with JFB that it wouldn’t surprise me to see them trade Bosh.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
B, they want Pau in Minny to mentor Rubio. Plus they run the triangle. Although Jheri West could find a way for the W’s…
June 13th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Jhill we talking Prison, astate Prison which is the worse ever. Do we need to go over what Prison is? A funeral home, liquor store aint even on that level. Our ppl are destroyed in there and that punk wants to make bread off of that?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Gasol to Minny for Love and the #2 makes sense for Minny bringing Rubio over.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Jhill overall do brothas leave Prison better men or just wilder animals?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
The Minny GM specifically MENTIONED Pau…
June 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I think many coaches would rather work with that roster than the W’s roster.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:53 am
You act as though this is the first time Lebron ever lost! This dude is NOTORIOUS for coming up short in the playoffs, and yes he HAS been in the NBA Finals prior to this series. Lebron is a regular season superstar and a playoff nobody.
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BCZ,
with that description, the Dallas roster is full of “LeBrons” and eventually they won the grand prize
June 13th, 2011 at 9:55 am
211.inonewordraider Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
“All the people that were rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. So they can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal. But they got to get back to the real world at some point.”
I wanted him to lose because I want Magic n Kobe to have more rings than this guy, never really disliked the guy tho I wasn’t a big fan of the decision, but now f this diva
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What a classless bum Queen LeDiva is!
Yep, we all have to deal with reality just like he does being known as a soft choke artist without a ring!
LMAO!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Giving the Lakers Kevin Love and Derrick Williams would be unfair. I wonder would Pau be C in minny and they keep Love at PF
June 13th, 2011 at 9:56 am
HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA
Man, that was a great basketball game last night! Loved seeing a real TEAM win the title last night and stick it up chokey LeDivas arse!
Where are all you Heat fans now?? LeDiva should now be called the QUEEN!
Congrats to big Dirk and especially J Kidd! One of the greatest Bay Area sports athletes of all time IMO.
Saw him play in high school and everyone knew he was going to be special back then and when he went to Cal everyone was pumped here in the Bay Area. Glad he earned this much deserved NBA Championship, which cements his status into the NBA Hall of Fame!
Congrats to the Mavs for winning the title the right way and earning it!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:57 am
dude is only 26 years old. He’s still a very young cat. He’s not in trouble with the law either. Give him time to eat some humble pie (even though he wont acknowledge it publicly) and he needs a better coach. Good chance they will win it next year and America loves a comeback story. We like to chop them down and cheer them on the comeback.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
The Cavs would be stupid to pick Irving ahead of Williams. They need to take Williams #1 overall and then take one of the PG’s in Knight or Walker at #4.
That’s how you build a team!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jerry West needs to give them Monta so we can have number 2 and 11 picks! Get Kanter and Burks
June 13th, 2011 at 10:00 am
DK i agree….knight better pg….dont know what to say about Kemba. I do gotta respect what he did in March tho
June 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Queen LeDiva = SOFT!
Lol!
Way to represent the Bay Area JASON KIDD! Much respect!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Screw lbj…he grew up poor his damn self and now talking down on us?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Kidd and Payton both got their rings….alot of ppl in bay area happy about that
June 13th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Our ppl are destroyed in there and that punk wants to make bread off of that?
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Prison isn’t disneyland.
EVERYONE that goes to prison is “destroyed”. Black, white, asian, hispanic.
BUT …
As the saying goes, you knew the job was dangerous before you took it.
Are you telling me that prison’s shouldn’t exist?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:07 am
# aig-raiders Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Spro was a lousy coach. Classic case of talent carrying him vs him coaching talent. His version of the half court offense is to let LBJ or Wade go one on one at the top of the key and everyone else standing around. They couldnt let LBJ post up since Bosh aka the Human Kleenex is already playing out on the perimeters. How many times did his players drive to the middle of the key, jump in the air, and tried to pass only to result in a turn over because everyone else was standing out on the perimeter?
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i dont think we ever saw spoeltra’s offense. LBJ and Wade are the coaches, and they did what ever they wanted to do. Spo couldnt call an offensive set with a t mobile cell phone. he is the new time out coordinator
June 13th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Jason Kidd > lbj
June 13th, 2011 at 10:11 am
overall do brothas leave Prison better men or just wilder animals?
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Of course prison unleashes whatever animal instincts haven’t already come out. Again, it’s not Disneyland.
Two sides to every coin.
Bottom line is it’s still a good business investment. Might be a moral argument here or there, but that’s beside the point.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Jason Kidd was never a good shooter but he worked his rears off to get the 3rd highest 3 pointers made of all time. Frickin incredible.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:13 am
BCZ,
with that description, the Dallas roster is full of “LeBrons” and eventually they won the grand prize
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None of those guys hold themselves on the pedestal Lebron does. Never heard of ‘King Novitzski’ or Decision 2009 starring Jason Kidd.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I musta missed the profit off of prison portion of todays arguments…
June 13th, 2011 at 10:16 am
LBJ and Wade are the coaches, and they did what ever they wanted to do. Spo couldnt call an offensive set with a t mobile cell phone.
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Spoelstra doesn’t get credit for anything????
Wow!
So those adjustments that were made that was getting Bosh and Haslem all those layups were plays LeBron drew up?
Puttin LeBron on JT wasn’t a good move?
LMFAO!
Sound like a bunch of excuses for LeBron. If he had a better coach, he would’ve won?
Not likely.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Legalize drugs as a start. The war on drugs = war on underclass = war on young blacks, now expanded to millions of mexicans.
The feds are doing a piss poor job of educating, let alone training people for jobs.
But the feds have their judicial industrial complex complete with tens of thousands of SWAT teams ready to destroy lives.
This one wont last long
June 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Puttin LeBron on JT wasn’t a good move?
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No it was not and JT smoked his a$$.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:28 am
# J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:16 am
LBJ and Wade are the coaches, and they did what ever they wanted to do. Spo couldnt call an offensive set with a t mobile cell phone.
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Spoelstra doesn’t get credit for anything????
Wow!
So those adjustments that were made that was getting Bosh and Haslem all those layups were plays LeBron drew up?
Puttin LeBron on JT wasn’t a good move?
LMFAO!
Sound like a bunch of excuses for LeBron. If he had a better coach, he would’ve won?
Not likely.
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You missed my point. Spoelstra maybe a good coach, but his stars wade and lbj dont listen to him at all. we saw some cross screens at the beginning of the game, then it disappeared. Where are the half court sets in the fourth quarter? Wade and lebron need to be reigned in, because as it stands now the inmates run the asylum in mia. I wonder how many times lebron or wade broke off the offense and did their own thing? I would guess more often than not.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:31 am
To be clear lebron got what he deserved, and until he improves his game on a fundamental level his offensive limitations will hurt him on the big stage, and no coach can can fix that for him.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:33 am
252.aig-raiders Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Puttin LeBron on JT wasn’t a good move?
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No it was not and JT smoked his a$$.
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It was the move everyone was talking about. JT couldn’t make anything early in the series with LeBron on him. Even had JT coming out and saying let’s see if he can do it for 7 games.
JFB broke the “film” down for you earlier telling you how LeBron quit on defense. Is it Spoelstra’s fault that LeBron went flatfooted?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:34 am
# aig-raiders Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Puttin LeBron on JT wasn’t a good move?
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No it was not and JT smoked his a$$.
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AIG its worse than that. Not only did jt clown lbj by taking him to the cup and hitting jumpers in his face, he did it while talking crap. LBJ….no response. LBJ is the tin man on the court, and the scarecrow in the press conference. A victim of his own partially self created hype machine.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:35 am
195.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I think the funniest part of all of this is Spoelstra getting the blame.
Spoelstra = bum coach b/c LeBron can’t come through?
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kinda like Tom Cable
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Cable was clueless.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
but his stars wade and lbj dont listen to him at all.
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Which goes to my point.
Coaches are only as good as their players.
I’ve been watching Kobe break the offense for years. He makes it work and PJ is the greatest coach of all time. When it doesn’t, Kobe is pouting, a spoiled baby, and all the other negative accolades that come with losing on a big stage.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Spoelstra could be the greatest coach of all time, but what good is it when your star players dont respect you? It isnt spoelstras fault that he has front running gutless, spoiled and horribly entitled super stars that dont listen.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Legalize drugs as a start. The war on drugs = war on underclass = war on young blacks, now expanded to millions of mexicans.
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Legalizing drug would be really ineteresting.
I trying to understand what problems that really solves?
Isn’t that just going to add to the unemployment crisis?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:41 am
# J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:36 am
but his stars wade and lbj dont listen to him at all.
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Which goes to my point.
Coaches are only as good as their players.
I’ve been watching Kobe break the offense for years. He makes it work and PJ is the greatest coach of all time. When it doesn’t, Kobe is pouting, a spoiled baby, and all the other negative accolades that come with losing on a big stage.
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We agree, but there are 2 major differences between the lakers and this miami deal.
Phil walked into la with big time jewlery, and the experience of coaching one of the greatest players and biggest egos of all time. So eventually when kobe did his own thing there would be public back lash in support of jackson. this at times forced kobe into compliance, especially early on before kobe had multiple rings.
Spoelstra has no leverage what so ever. Im waiting for lbj to throw a towel in his face, or choke him.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:44 am
No way Minny trades Love & #2 for Gasol.
I just don’t understand the hate for Gasol.
He has been with the team for 4 years and they have been to 3 finals and won 2 rings with him, so why get rid of him?
Besides, if we trade Gasol we will have zero options in the post once Bynum goes down with his annual knee injury.
Gasol for Love and the #2 pick would be one thing, but that is just not going to happen. Gasol for the #2 pick and some T-Wolves junk would be a huge mistake.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Who would you take with the #2 Dakota? Walker, Knight, ???
June 13th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Hill,
PJ knows how to play mind games with Kobe. He’s known for his zen master BS but he gets it done. You need a guy with that type of a rep to have LBJ listens to you. They will bring in a big shot coach or Riley will take over himself.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:50 am
“Legalizing drug would be really ineteresting.
I trying to understand what problems that really solves?
Isn’t that just going to add to the unemployment crisis?”
Legalizing drugs would save us billions of dollars in court, legal, prison costs. Plus the government could tax drugs creating even more money.
Right now I would say about 30% of the people incarcerated do not belong in jail. They are drug dealers/addicts and dead beat dads or alcoholics.
If we were able to treat drug addiction in a more therapeutic environment then get these folks back to work they could be contributors to society instead of a burden on society.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I just don’t understand the hate for Gasol.
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LOL!
Yes you do.
No one is trying to give Gasoft away, but he is FAR from untouchable.
There are only 2 Centers left in the league and we have one of them in Bynum.
Gasol, Fisher, Artest and a #1 for Love, Darko, and the #2.
Minny would be dumb to turn down a chance to match Rubio and Gasoft.
With all that said, I know Gasoft will be a Laker next year, lol.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
But now that the NBA is done….time for raiders! Training camp soon!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I cant remember such an epic flop job of this magnitude. Somebody get LBJ some extenz because he is coming up short when it matters most. I remember dominique wilkens , the lone star on terrible teams. Knocked out of the playoffs year after year by the celtics and pistons. But he never went out with a whimper like lbj did. He would go down swinging, and i mean throwing hay makers. I cant remember a star that went out like lbj last night…..oh wait, yes i can, LBJ vs the celtics last year.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:53 am
263.Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Who would you take with the #2 Dakota? Walker, Knight, ???
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Williams, Irving or Knight….I’d take any of them, but I think Willaims will be the best player in this draft.
I wouldn’t touch Walker….midget shooting guard who can’t dribble.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:54 am
The Heat quit late in the game. That is on the coach. What is a coach’s job if it’s not to keep the team motivated? To stand there and argue with refs?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Gasol, Fisher, Artest and a #1 for Love, Darko, and the #2.
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I like Gasol, but I would have to make that trade….just no way Minny would get rid of Love.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
paul peirce > lbj. The human highlight film > lbj
June 13th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Gonna be crazy this NFL season…….from what Ive been told no vet WRs and no new bigger stout veteran guards…..only free agent signings we have are for depth only. JC will gonna have to step up
June 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Who feels worse, the Heat today, or the Raiders the day after Super Bowl 37?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:57 am
If the Cavs take Irving ahead of Williams, they will be regretting it for many years.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Legalizing drugs would save us billions of dollars in court, legal, prison costs. Plus the government could tax drugs creating even more money.
Right now I would say about 30% of the people incarcerated do not belong in jail. They are drug dealers/addicts and dead beat dads or alcoholics.
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So you want to set up a Hampsterdam?
Sorry, but I am not for allowing heroin, meth, coke, and all these “real drug” users to be able to get high “legally”
What, would we follow the example of legalizing alcohol? That hasn’t worked out to well, imo.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:58 am
MR..yeah some things from hoop perspective were weird on Spoles part……no lbj at 4? bet lbj turned down the offer lol. Eventho E House sux on d why was he not in games when it was obvious you couldnt hit an open shot? You let a team run a zone on u? A zone?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Like Al would go after any top notch FAs anyway. When has he since 2002? Al signs these bums, gives them over sized, back loaded contracts to make his fans think he’s “trying”.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:00 am
“All the people that were rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today. They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that. So they can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal. But they got to get back to the real world at some point.”
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Yup, the masses of people that took enjoyment in seeing the ‘king’ come up short and the Heat lose will go back to their ordinary lives and the real world. On this, Lebron is right.
Doesn’t really matter how much enjoyment or how long that enjoyment lasts.
What the ‘king’ should be asking himself is why so many people were ‘rooting on me to fail’.
Could have something to do with the “I’m taking my talents” fiasco. Might have something to do with the “not one, not two, not three…” extravaganza.
Maybe the ‘king’ should have been a bit less presumptuous and actually won ONE title, before talking about seven.
There’s a fine line between confident self assuredness and arrogant cocky bragadocio and boasting.
The ‘king’ apparently doesn’t realize he crossed that line and that’s why alot of people root against him.
The ‘king’ needs to learn how to be more contrite. Perhaps then, ordinary folk might not root for him to fail or take such enjoyment in it.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:00 am
JHill, do you think we should reenact Prohibition?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:00 am
MR by far the Heat…..they had more talented team and tried to call their own shot. They made fun of Dirk and danced and celebrated before they won a ring
June 13th, 2011 at 11:00 am
What, would we follow the example of legalizing alcohol? That hasn’t worked out to well, imo.
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You mean compared to when alcohol was illegal? Pretty sure prohibition didn’t work out so well, either.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Haha. You tell ‘em , King. He basically said that his haters are going to wake up tomorrow and go back to their miserable jobs (or the unemployment line…or perhaps a tea party rally), while he’ll be looking at a sandy white beach with crystal blue water, getting his toes sucked by super models.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:04 am
The heat need a guy that can run off screens and hit a mid rang j. A rip hamilton type.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Brien, you’re in denial. Chucky’s revenge.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:05 am
I was for lbj to finally gget one but dogging Dirk like he did,quitting in Finals at home and dissing poor folks when u were a poor kid in Ohio is inexcusable. i hope he never wins now. U dont take a shot at the lower ppl in society
June 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am
When did he diss poor people? Brien, stfu.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Pretty sure prohibition didn’t work out so well, either.
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In what context?
I guess the real question is what does “works” mean?
Prohibition might have taken the “criminal” element out of the business, but I’d argue that alcohol related “problems” have never been more of a problem.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:07 am
MR no you just want it to be the Raiders cuz of your vendetta against Al……..Heat quit in middle of home game. Raiders just got worked over by old coach. Miami had 3 of top nba players and mocked ppl all year only to run and hide
June 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
LeBron didn’t diss the poor he dissed those white tea party a holes in Ohio that yelled racist ish at him when he came back to Cleveland. And you’re defending them. Guess it’s that Aryan nation connection.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
And MR did you see any Raider players collapse like Bosh did? It was sad to see a grown 6′11 man act like that
June 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
JHill, are you for bringing back Prohibition, or not? Simple yes or no answer. People like you always try to sound omniscient but always tap dance around a straight forward question.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:09 am
And MR did you see any Raider players collapse like Bosh did? It was sad to see a grown 6′11 man act like that
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My god you are one dumb uncle tom.
Barret Robbins.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Please….more of the general public hated LBJ for pulling that move last summer and guess what general public is? POOR!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Barret Robbins? lol he was so called sick! He didnt sob and catch the Holy Ghost
June 13th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Brien, Mr. down with the Aryan Nation, everyone knows who Lebron was really dissing. He was dissing those unemployed white haters in Cleveland because they’re racist punks. He’s never dissed the poor, as in those who are really poor, never had jobs, even when the economy was good. Those tea party a holes are living off of their parents, most of them retired union workers. They’re fine.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:15 am
The heat need a guy that can run off screens and hit a mid rang j. A rip hamilton type.
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They are a very flawed team. They need a player that will do the dirty work for them. Brian Cardinal was hacking the schytt out of anyone that came close to him for the the Mavs. If the Heat wants to play a half court offense then they need a true pg (Bibby aint it) and a good low post force (either D or offense). Chandler looked like a low post stud against the Heat. Or else they’re better off being a running transition offensive team.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Bosh danced and shhht to just like LBJ DID LAST SUMMER. they flaunted as if they won title and he came up short when it mattered as well. You cry in locker room as a pro not like a lil kid he has to leave Chuck e Cheese early
June 13th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Those suburban Cleveland tea party types who LeBron was dissing? They live off of their parents, their parents were union workers. Instead of looking for jobs they go to tea party rallies and blame Mexicans for taking jobs they never had in the first place. Their manufacturing jobs went over seas. It’s one big side show, on mom and dad’s UNION dime.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Dumbass MR….HAVE YOU NOT SEEN BLACK PPL FROM OHIO GET ON THIS FOOL? Again you are lying. Blk ppl in Cleveland mad at him too…..and they asked lbj about ALLL his critics
June 13th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Anyone watching this? Brien forgot all about Barret Robbins. Shhh. don’t tell him.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I never said black people in Cleveland liked LeBron, I said LeBron was dissing white people in Cleveland. They were yelling racial slurs at him when he came back. That’s when the gloves came off. Stop trying to lump your Aryan racist masters with poor black people. You admire racist whites, most black people don’t.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:19 am
At every turn you go to extra lengths to dog white ppl. Why you so ashamed of being white? Kissing our ass is surely not a way to get respect
June 13th, 2011 at 11:21 am
AT EVERY TURN YOU GO TO EXTRA LENGTHS TO ADMIRE WHITE RACISTS!! Talk about self hate, you’re the biggest example their is.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:22 am
And you think you get respect from white racists after kissing their asses? Look how they treat you in here. You’re a clown.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:22 am
LeBron didn’t mention tea party or any other political sh!t. He was talking to those rooting against him, and showing zero class.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
No he wasnt….he responded about all his critics and mind he apologized to cleveland or did u forget that
June 13th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Brien, you said you were down with the Aryan Nation. Don’t make Kell pull up the comment. Case closed. You are the biggest example of self hate there is.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Uh, I’m sure there’s a blog for pedophiles to discuss sports, somewhere.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Robbins was officially sick mentally…..he didnt decide to quit while on the field in middle of game….what cant you see about this?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:25 am
The hate for leBaron was NOT racist. Never was. The racists in Nohio hated him as a Cav, so it wasn’t them yellin at hm.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Aryan Bryan,
You said Bosch was crying. You said Bosch broke down.
Nobody broke down and cried like Barret Robbins. He was broken down before game time. Don’t point to other teams’ breaking down in championships when you’e a Raider fan. Super Bowl 37 was one of the biggest melt downs in sports history.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:28 am
MR…..PULL UP each post leading up to that….very simple to get one post and use it as fact….thats just like mediots taking one part of a quote and leaving out the other part lol
June 13th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Who is he talking to? He must be talking to you, Brien. I don’t talk to pedophiles.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Brien, you said you were down with the Aryan Nation. It’s quoted and printed.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:29 am
LeBron puzzed out of Cleveland so that he could have another superstar carry him to a ring and it didn’t work.
Gotta love it.
Kobe tried to do something similar, but the Lakers saved him from himself. LeBron made a bad call and he will never be remembered as one of the all-time greats because of it.
Again, gotta love it.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Meltdown? Guy is mentally sick supposedly and at no point did the Raiders quit in that game so therefore you again are exposed as a liar
June 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Maybe Bosch is mentally sick, too. That’s not the point. The point is players melting down. At least Bosch made it to the game.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Brien, I’m going to bring up Robbins every time you try to clown Bosch. Get used to the cause and effect.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Lol MR AND KPDK are bitter cuz ive made them look silly time and time again on here….You wanna have a vote by fellow bloggers who bests who? I bet I win in landslide
June 13th, 2011 at 11:34 am
The only Raider-related meltdowns I’ve seen are from MR when the Raiders win. Makes Bosh look masculine…
June 13th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Was Bosh mentally sick not supposedly taking his meds? Be serious not even the same thing as Robbins story
June 13th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Brien, you’re an admitted admirer of the “Aryan Nation” and you’re trying to clown Chris Bosch for crying when your team hoisted perhaps the biggest crybaby in sports history in SB 37, a player who didn’t even make it to the game he was so broken down. Again, at least bosch showed up.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Driving up I-29 after watching the Raiders’-Bucs superbowl I briefly thought about taking my seatbelt off and gunning my car up to 100 mph and going head on into an overpass.
That loss was devastating. Gruden coming in to tear our hearts out…..couldn’t have been worse.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Brien, how do we know Bosch isn’t mentally sick? How do we know Robbins really is? People fake insanity all the time in court. We’re talking about people melting down in big games. At least Bosh made it to the game. Robbins melted down in Tijuana the day before his big game. You tell me who’s weaker.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:35 am
And MR IS SO FULL OF SCHIT there are a good amouunt of Democrats in Ohio who hate lbj’s guts
June 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
It wasn’t all that long ago when everything you guys are saying about LBJ and the Heat was being said about the Mav’s and JT.
Dirk was gutless and didn’t play D and JT was a loud mouth gunner.
The Heat got what they deserved however they’re still a very talented that I think will be back and know how to win they could add a couple of big men to help shut down the middle so the don’t have to switch so much. And Spoelstra was like a deer in headlights. He’s still trying to get ready to coahc the finals and the series is over…………he was as LOST as LBJ!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Brien, I never said there weren’t democrats in Ohio who didn’t like LeBrown. I just said LeBrown is dissing those punks who were yelling racial slurs at him when he returned, most of them middle class whites. And, I doubt too many of them are Democrats.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Bosh has never been diagnosed with mental illness so spare us all MR….youre scrambling again
June 13th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Brien, we’re not discussing mental illness. We’re discussing players melting down before games. Robbins is perhaps the biggest melt down in history. So stfu. Debate over.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:39 am
329.Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Bosh has never been diagnosed with mental illness so spare us all MR….youre scrambling again
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Bosh has been a headcase ever since Shaq called him the NBA’s RuPaul lol.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Dummy many ppl were yellin at him at every arena in the nba! Here in Oakland….up in Sac…NY and Chicago!…..his comments were not just limited to whites in cleveland
June 13th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Its the Raiders responsibility to know if their players are showing signs of mental illness. Reports have said that the Raiders knew of Robbins’ problems for years, but pushed them under a rug. Robbins had a spat during the 2000 season as well. So, it’s inexcusable. We’re talking about athletes melting down before games. The Raiders took a gamble on someone they knew was mentally ill. Results are results. Read ‘em and weep.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Dakota mental illness is something one cant control…..u get hurt by words and become mentally ill? lol
June 13th, 2011 at 11:41 am
J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I think the funniest part of all of this is Spoelstra getting the blame.
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Exactly.
If you want to blame anyone other than the players, people should blame Riley for not doing anything to add to his rotation.
Forcing your coach to HAVE to give NBA finals minutes to Juwan Howard, Eddie House and Mike Bibby is completely on the GM.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:41 am
And Bosh cried after REGULAR seasons losses this season……again MR’s bs shut down again
June 13th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Bryan, you dumb wannabe cracker, listen, LeBron dosn’t care about people yelling at him, he’s dissing the people who were yelling racial slurs at him. That’s where he drew the line, as well he should. He has dignity, unlike you. He’s NOT down with the Aryan Nation. Get it?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Brien, your team produced the biggest crybaby in sports history. And it doesn’t matter that he was mentally ill, its the RAiders responsibility to know that, and there was sign after sign. They gambled on him, and he blew up in their face. Biggest melt down ever. Bosch at least showed up.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
If they play a zone to keep LBJ from penetrating, the first thing you do is POST HIM UP put shooters at 45degree angles and tell him shopt first and pass second. And put Bosh on the weakside in case his man gives help he’s dunkin’ on his dome.
The coach knows basketball but he was paralysed be his own indecision. How in hell did he not see that Chalmers was twice the player Bibby is and it took him until the closeout game to start him…………….ALL TIME DUMB!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:44 am
No we talking about guys quitting at HOME…..you know HOME court?….they quit in 3rd qtr and Bosh was one of them that quit. Then broke down like a stood up prom date. His masculinity even called into question. We aint doin that for old Barrett now are we?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:44 am
That other idiot, Bauce Fool was sure the “Stern” was going to “fix” the series in favor of the Miami Hasidic community.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
I knew as soon as Priesttj said the series was “OVA” after game 1, that the Heat were in trouble.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Lol racial slurs then he apologizes to Cleveland afterwards? MR you contradicted yourself again
June 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
No, we’re not talking about guys quitting at home, or home court. We’re talking about melt downs, players crying, etc. You clowned Bosch for having a bad game and crying. You seemingly forgot all about Barret robbins. I’ll say it a thousand times, at least Bosch showed up.
Brien, Kell’s here. You know he’s got your Aryan comments linked. You might want to take a time out.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Brien, I’ve beat on you enough today. Now I’m just going to kick back and watch Kell dismantle you.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Stern’s storm troopers were out KPDK….i constantly put it out and yesterday as usual u ran when gettin destroyed. Stern has fixed stuff before 02 WCF vs sac is just one of many he did
June 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
342.KoolKell Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
I knew as soon as Priesttj said the series was “OVA” after game 1, that the Heat were in trouble.
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lol
June 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Lol MR….ASK ANYONE on blog outside of KPDK if you ever have beat me lol….bet ya no one will agree wit ya
June 13th, 2011 at 11:48 am
You mean Stern’s in the pocket of South Beach jews? No way!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:49 am
346.Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Stern’s storm troopers were out KPDK….i constantly put it out and yesterday as usual u ran when gettin destroyed. Stern has fixed stuff before 02 WCF vs sac is just one of many he did
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David Stern made the Kings players miss free throws? Wow, he must be a Warlock!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I clowned Bosh for quitting and then breaking down like a Girl Scout when u wont buy cookies
June 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
It don’t matter who starts, it’s all about who is playing the most minutes.
Chalmers played more than Bibby the whole series, starting or coming off the bench.
Jason Terry never starts, and he might have been the 2nd best player in the whole series.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:50 am
If Bosch broke down like a girl scout, Barret Robbins broke down like a mother at a funeral.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Everyone knows Stern fixed 02 WCF VS sac…..and Donaghy just like Canseco told truth….now KPDK wants to deny it
June 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Dakota, you realize only Laker fans dispute that the ‘02 series was fixed, right? Every word that comes out of your mouth might as well be, “I’m a Laker fan, I don’t want to hear it, I’m putting my fingers in my ears now, naa naa naa”
June 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Bosh is a pretty good offense player. He was 7-9 yesterday and went to the line, the King and Wade should have been pumping him the ball more.
Just incredibly soft defensively though. The championship was on the line, and he didn’t raise his defensive intesity one iota from a road game in Milwaukee in November.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Do we have camera footage of Robbins or Bosh? Exactly MR. Even Dirk had sense to leave floor cuz he knew he would super tear up
June 13th, 2011 at 11:53 am
referee came right out and said it, dakota. he offered to take a polygraph.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Ok, brien. Nothing happened with Robbins because there was no camera footage. Can’t be proven. I guess maybe we’ll go by the fact that HE NEVER SHOWED UP FOR THE GAME???? What do you think, numb nuts?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
355.RAIDER Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Dakota, you realize only Laker fans dispute that the ‘02 series was fixed, right? Every word that comes out of your mouth might as well be, “I’m a Laker fan, I don’t want to hear it, I’m putting my fingers in my ears now, naa naa naa”
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The only series that was “fixed” was the 06 finals when the NBA allowed Wade to shoot 1289 free throws in 6 games.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:54 am
JFB I saw the series and Bibby hurt that team because the COACH kept taking him out at key points of games and they would promptly lose momentum. Why do you think he finally started Chalmers bibby was playing major minutes until the finall 2 games.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
KPDK and MR…go and take that survey from other bloggers for me…..ask them who bests you two all the time….then ill come back and see results lol…..see ya later
June 13th, 2011 at 11:55 am
dakota, referee that said Kings/fakers was fixed offered to take a polygraph. He was gagged. Stern got his lawyers on it. Why won’t stern, and the actual officials, just take polygraphs? Just like prez had to show his birth certificate. Just take polygraphs, then it’s all over. So far, that ref is the only one willing to take the lie detector.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Dakota at least u admit a fix in nba….end of story….lol good day
June 13th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Brien’s running off like a punk again. He doesn’t want to see both me and Kell at the same time.
June 13th, 2011 at 11:58 am
No doubt Bibby was awful, but they can’t play Chalmers 48 minutes.
While Eddie House can shoot, he can’t dribble, jump, pass or play defense so he was not much of an option.
Spoelestra was looking for the best way to hide his backup PG’s, and he thought it was best for Bibby to start and play with the big 3 and that would mask it.
Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t thing.
But again, Spoelestra doesn’t make the roster. What kind of GM has Mario Chalmers, Mike Bibby and Eddie House as his rotation of PG’s and even sometimes SG??
Pathetic!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Wait, everyone knows the Kings suck so bad there is no need for “fixing”… what’s next, is Stern holding down the Clippers too?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:59 am
even with all of their flaws if they could have it a single mid range j, or if lebron could go to the post they could have won.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Man, I can’t believe Selig has fixed the Cubs games for 100+ years…
June 13th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I think the Heat will be much better by doing one thing. making Chalmers THE PG and letting him run their offense and make LBJ and Wade finishers. Put Wade at SG and LBJ at SF put the ball in Chalmers hands to bring it up court at times james and Wade can help but Chalmers has the ability to be one of the better decision makers and PG’s in the league. They have to give him the responsiblity and he has to tell both Wade LBJ and Bosh what to do. If they can do that they are a much better team because the defense now has to stop a 3rd playmaker and Bosh can play in his comfort zone. But Chalmers is the key give him the keys to the car and it’ll run a lot smoother.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
If they play a zone to keep LBJ from penetrating, the first thing you do is POST HIM UP put shooters at 45degree angles and tell him shopt first and pass second.
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But he has no post game.
I know you think that a 6′8, 260lb guy who is the fastest player on the court and can jump out of the gym should be able to do whatever he wants on the court, but, lol, it ain’t so mayne.
There was nothing stopping LeBron from posting up his man and demanding the ball inside.
Did you see that 1 post move he had where he turned to the baseline, tried to shoot if off the glass, and missed the entire square on the glass? How about the offensive fould on Barrea?
I’m pretty sure he’ll work on that part of his game this summer, as well as 1000 3pt shots a day.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
I think the Heat will be much better by doing one thing. making Chalmers THE PG and letting him run their offense and make LBJ and Wade finishers.
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Priesttj, please, no Raider predictions, ok?
June 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Chalmers made at least one critical turnover down the stretch last night and could not stay in front of Barea all series.
He is no savior.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
I have always thought that the hype machine that hair jordan built has destroyed the nba, and queen james is proof of this notion. Lebron was on espn before he graduated from high school. He has been in a bubble, and has yet to discover accountability and man hood. Stop filming commercials, using muppets to challenge kobe’s status as the best player, and learn some fundamental basketball. So far he is more sizzle than steak.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
It’s too bad LeDiva is too soft when it comes to learning and developing a low post game.
The man is 6′9, and it’s too bad he doesn’t have a as good of a low post game as Jordan and Kobe.
Even though my Lakers got spanked by the Mavs…..I’m glad neither Boston or the Heat won the title.
Glad the Lakers lost to this years NBA champs and not chumps from Boston or Miami! LOL
June 13th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Did you see that 1 post move he had where he turned to the baseline, tried to shoot if off the glass, and missed the entire square on the glass? How about the offensive fould on Barrea?
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It’s all between the ears too.
Pushing Barrea???? LMAO, that was comical.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
David Stern made the Kings players miss free throws? Wow, he must be a Warlock!
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Not only did he make them miss FTs, he made Vlade slap the ball out to Horry for a game winning 3.
Maybe someone with deeper pockets than Stern got to Peja?
June 13th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
If you told me before the game that Dirk was going to be 1-12 from the field in the first half and the Mavs would still be winning, I’d have thought you were nuts.
But it happened, didn’t it ?
Even though Dirk was a non-factor on offense the Mavs still managed to score more than 50 in the first half.
There were contributions from others (most notably Barea), but it was Terry that really stepped up and took the team on his shoulders.
That was as clutch a big game performance as you’ll ever see.
JaJason Terry wasn’t the series MVP, but he was more responsible than any other Mav for puuting the final nail into the Heat coffin.
Huge props to JaJason for a great game.
Hope I can say that when the Raids play again.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
but Chalmers has the ability to be one of the better decision makers and PG’s in the league. They have to give him the responsiblity and he has to tell both Wade LBJ and Bosh what to do
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Seriously?
Turn him into Rondo, huh?
Let me help you with this one Priest.
Put LeBron at the point, and let the rest fall into place.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:43 am
If they play a zone to keep LBJ from penetrating, the first thing you do is POST HIM UP put shooters at 45degree angles and tell him shopt first and pass second.
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OR…….
Flash to one of the open pockets in the zone, ( usually near the foul line) with your hands up and your numbers facing the ball. Catch the ball in that soft spot and hit the mid range j, or look for your teammates diving to the front of the rim if the defense rotates in time.
Only problem neither lbj or wade can consistently hit the j 8-15 ft. Spo should of had bosh flash to the soft spot, he can shoot the mid range shot.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Of course, neither has the integrity, or the class to admit they were wrong.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
lol. Reading some of Charlie Sheen’s tweets. He’s crazy, but he’s definitely on point about Israel.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
They will bring in a big shot coach or Riley will take over himself.
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Agreed with AIG
June 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
So according to MR and the felonious ref the NBA wanted the Lakers to advance so they rigged game 6 of the 2002 WCF…..so why then did the NBA allow the refs to screw the Lakers with bad calls in game 5 of that same series?
So the refs rigged game 5 for Sactown and then game 6 for the Lakers? lmao
Did you know the Kings actually shot 19 more free throws than the Lakers in that series….except the Lakers hit 73% of theirs and the Kings only 66% of their free throws lol.
If you actually watch game six the Kings fouled the shyyyyt out of the lakers down the stretch and they were legit calls. The only real controversial foul was when Bibby was called for a foul after Kobe elbowed him.
Kings’ fans will never get over the fact that they blew game seven by missing 14 free throws lol.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Charlie Sheen’s tweets? You bon-bon eating trailer skank… get a life.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Dakota, you’re grasping at straws. You can quote stats all you want, if the refs were effectively trying to make a team lose, it’s tainted. period.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
A bon bon eating trailer park skank is better than what you are, Bo.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Sheen cracks me up. Frankly, I think he does have a drug problem. As far as his views on Jews in Hollywood and Israel, he’s on point, though. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. He’s just telling the truth.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
I don’t live in LA so I am not swinging the giant that way but I think at the end of the day Howard ends up in LA with Kobe! Yes, I know Kobe is getting up there to but LA always reloads their talent.
If Dwight went younger on the court he would be nasty in Chicago with Rose and Noah at forward they can trade Dang for value and fee up the cap space.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
hey quick heads up for Raider fans. If you ever wanted to get an authentic Raider jersey #34, the raiders website has it right now for $50. That is a steal. Take Jordan’s name off and put a blank plate on their. Later.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Jhill LBJ’s post game may not be great but it is definitely better than him standing around watching. That way even if he passes he’s already in the paint and involved. He is a great athlete so most of shots would be at the rim. He doesn’t have to have this all world post game GET HIM INVOLVED!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
No matter what anyone says changes my mind. Bosh looked like a straight punk falling on the ground in the tunnel after the game. If anyone is soft it is Bosh! He made a fool out of himself.
You cry and show disppointment in the locker room or at home!
These guys can’t handle being looked at as the bad guy. Lebron and Wade included.
Jordan would never even address the media better yet the fans when they asked a personal question.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Plaxico Burress partners with anti-gun organization
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
In his first extended public apperance since getting out of prison, Plaxico Burress announced Monday in New York City that he has partnered with the National Urban League and the Brady Center to combat gun violence.
“I want to see every child have a chance to succeed. I have an opportunity to make a difference,” Burress said via the New York Post.
Quickly rehabbing his public image with a partnership like this is a page taken directly out of the Michael Vick playbook. So is the news Monday that Tony Dungy will serve as a mentor to Vick. Magic Johnson will also mentor Burress, who no longer owns a firearm.
“I’ve been a champion on the field and I want to be a champion in life off the field,” Burress said. He wants to discourage youth from owning firearms.
It’s easy to be cynical here, but Bob Glauber of Newsday believes Burress is a humbled, changed man after his experience in prison. Dungy said that prison taught Burress plenty.
“You hate to say it was a good experience, but it was a fruitful experience,” Dungy said via the Newark Star-Ledger.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Some league insiders believe that Pryor will play receiver at the next level, and that his size (six feet, five inches) and potential will get him picked in the fourth-to-sixth-round range in the supplemental draft this year. If there’s a supplemental draft this year.
Look for Rosenhaus, a relentless marketer and promoter of his clients, to immediately begin touting Terrelle’s potential value as a quarterback, with repeated public comparisons of Pryor to Cam Newton, the first overall pick in the 2011 draft.
If Rosenhaus can get Pryor picked higher than round four by a team that will let him play quarterback, we envision some more video of the agent leaping into his very tall client’s arms.
-PFT
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I’ll take TP for a 4th rounder to back up Jason Campbell and compete with Boller & Frye
June 13th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
LeBron at the point is not bad but it reduces Chalmers to a spot up shooter and he’s much better than that. LBJ can play Point Forward all they want but if uyou make Chalmers the PG and decision maker/playmaker it draws the doubles away from LBJ and makes him a finisher.
The team is much more versatile and gets a legitimate PG added as a legit threat to penetrate and kick or finish. Takes a ton of pressure off both Wade and LBJ yet they get the bulk of the shots.
June 13th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
I don’t know if the Heat can find a PG better than Bibby, Chalmbers or House willing to play for peanuts … but I’m pretty darned sure they can find a big man to play Center better than Ilgauskas, Magloire, Pittman & Anthony (and that could have been the difference in winning & losing the NBA Finals)
Haslem, Howard & Jones should also be easy upgrades imo
June 13th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Lakers
Players Under Contract:
G: Derek Fisher
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Steve Blake
G: Shannon Brown (player option)
F: Lamar Odom
F: Ron Artest
F: Matt Barnes (player option)
F: Luke Walton
F/C: Pau Gasol
C: Andrew Bynum
Free Agents:
None
Heat
Players Under Contract:
G: Dwyane Wade
G: Eddie House (player option)
F: LeBron James
F: Chris Bosh
F: Mike Miller
F: Udonis Haslem
C: Joel Anthony
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas (player option)
C: Dexter Pittman
Free Agents:
G: Mario Chalmers (unrestricted)
G: Mike Bibby (unrestricted)
F: James Jones (unrestricted)
F: Juwan Howard (unrestricted)
C: Erick Dampier (unrestricted)
C: Jamaal Magloire (unrestricted)
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trade Pittman & Haslem for Pau Gasol!
June 13th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Miami could probably get Nene & J.R. Smith from Denver and start kickin’ chicken
June 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I wonder if Miami could resurrect Greg Oden (restricted free agent) ???
June 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Lol how exactly are the Heat going to land Nene and JR Smith considering their cap situation and lack of tradeable assets?
June 13th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
but I’m pretty darned sure they can find a big man to play Center
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Like who?
June 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
G: Mario Chalmers (unrestricted)
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Unrestricted???
Uh oh!
June 13th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Tyson Chandler & J.J. Barea aren’t under contract with the Mavs next season either … Miami bound?
June 13th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
how exactly are the Heat going to land Nene and JR Smith considering their cap situation and lack of tradeable assets
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they are UFA’s
no trade required. salary is always negotiable
June 13th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
I couldn’t agree more Jerry. Who else are they going to go after in the Supplemental draft? No matter what they get out of him it’ll be worth the minimal cost to acquire him.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Yao Ming (Unrestricted)
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the BIG 4
LOL!
Miami should get Ming & Iverson to make their own “Fab 5″
June 13th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Tim Duncan & Willie Green would be pretty sweet, too
June 13th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Kwame Brown is available ….
June 13th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Tayshaun Prince & Von Wafer might help … wouldn’t solve the “big man” issue though
June 13th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Jason Richardson or Jamal Crawford?
Hmmmm
June 13th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Miami has options …
I’m just sayin!
June 13th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
It will be interesting to see what the new NBA rules will be. Hard cap? No more MLEs? No more Bird rights?
The NBA has serious economic issues and have opened their books for the players to see for themselves. The players are going to have to give back quite a bit, so this lockout might get protracted.
Teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Mavs and Heat might find that they have to cut some of their big name players to comply with the new rules.
I doubt Miami will be able to add any decent players to their roster without cutting or trading one of the big three first.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Mavs and Heat might find that they have to cut some of their big name players to comply with the new rules.
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I just can’t see that happening.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
414.J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Teams like the Lakers, Celtics, Mavs and Heat might find that they have to cut some of their big name players to comply with the new rules.
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I just can’t see that happening.
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It is what happened in the NHL.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Why did NBA owners show the books? I thought owners didn’t show books. I thought they just didn’t do that. lol
June 13th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
When owners really are going broke, they’ll show you the books in a heart beat. Anything to get people on the same page as them. Of course, when they’re not really going broke, they do what the NFL owners are doing, say that they just don’t show the books, it’s their private information, etc. lol. The words of a guilty man.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Only when it fits their needs MR. The NFL is making boatloads of money, and have to make up figures like projected stadium costs, to claim they need concession from the players. So no books for you! lol
June 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
It is what happened in the NHL.
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Really?
That’s interesting.
What happened to the stars who were cut?
Big named high price players were actually cut to get under the cap? I’m not talking about salary dumps a la Jamarcus Russell either.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
The Lakers will cut Artest, Walton, and Fisher to get under the cap.
June 13th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
419.J Hill Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
It is what happened in the NHL.
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Really?
That’s interesting.
What happened to the stars who were cut?
Big named high price players were actually cut to get under the cap? I’m not talking about salary dumps a la Jamarcus Russell either.
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No, big stars were not cut, but many players were cut or bought out to fit under their new hard cap.
“The NHL lost the entire 2004-2005 season due to an owner imposed lockout stemming from the inability to come to terms with a new collective bargaining agreement between the players and owners. Similar to the NBA, the negations started far apart and one of the sticking points was related to a salary cap.
In the end, the owners won out and the salary cap was immediately implemented. This meant that the teams that had payrolls over the newly established salary cap had to work on getting their payrolls under that the limit. Rules were set in place to make the transition seamless but it still resulted in players being bought out or cut from teams that had expensive payrolls.”
(Obviously, the roster situation is much different in the NBA with the top three or four players on each team taking up the majority of the salary cap space.)
“What if immediate implementation of a hard cap is implemented in the NBA? This would mean that teams would have to renegotiate the current player contracts or outright cut players to get under the cap just like the NHL.
The Lakers currently have the highest team payroll at $91 million dollars which is well above the $58 million dollar salary cap set by the NBA for total team salaries. The Lakers would exceed the salary threshold with the salaries of Kobe, Gasol and Bynum alone.
In order for the Lakers to comply with the terms of the hard cap they will need to attempt to renegotiate the terms of the current players contracts, but with them needing to shed $33 million in salaries they will also lose important players off the roster. You can conceivably see guys like Bynum, Odom, Barnes, Shannon Brown, Fisher and Steve Blake all be cut or bought out and be replaced with less expensive options like rookies or well aged veterans.
Those players that are cut from the Laker roster will then have to find new homes on other teams; with the scarcity of teams with money available they will have to consider teams in cities they might not have initially considered under the previous terms.
Lamar Odom might find himself in Milwaukee.
Andrew Bynum might have to consider Cleveland.
Fisher might have to end his career in Oklahoma City.
In this scenario, the Lakers’ depth has been ravaged and the talent has been evenly dispersed throughout the league creating an NFL type parity league wide.”
June 13th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Jhill,
The owners are pushing for a hard cap at $45 million a year with no exceptions.
Kobe makes about $27 million and Gasol $17 million…..
Even if the owners come up to the current cap level of $58 million, it will still force the Lakers to make many painful cuts.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
irjonny Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 6:30 am
H/W/S = Height, Weight, Speed
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Ahhhh man of course! well thanks for the answer man!
June 13th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
“(CNN) – In a declaration laden with veiled jabs at NBA all star LeBron James, Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Monday declared the Dallas Mavericks honorary Ohioans.
The move came less than 24 hours after the Mavericks defeated James and the Miami Heat in game six of the NBA Finals to win their first ever NBA championship.”
lmao….nice
June 13th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
All I have to say to that is WOW, Dakota.
Kobe would be gone, and Gasoft would have to renegotiate down to about 10 a year.
Who do you see Miami cutting? I think they’d have to look hard at cutting LeBron, lol.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
With the hard cap in mind, I REALLY make a move for Howard. I’d trade Bynum and Lamar, or Gasol and Lamar for Howard.
KObe gets a take it or leave it 12 million a year offer, accept a trade, or be cut option.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
How in the hell did you guys manage to make using a draft pick for Prior an arguement over racism?!
Why does it have to be racism just because you disagree?!
—– Here’s where it comes from:
RAIDER Says:
I think Pryor should get a shot considering his race and his upbringing.
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There are subtle ways to introduce race into the convo, and there are not-so-subtle ways to do it. MR has mastered all the techniques, and that’s how he brought it into the Pryor discussions. It amazes me how many people take the bait, no matter how it’s introduced…it’s one of the troll’s most common tactics.
Any paragraph that starts with words stating someone should get a shot shot based on “his race and his upbringing,” needs to be instantly discounted…just as the writer of such slop needs to be discounted as a hack and a racist.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Owners opening their books during contract negotiations with the Union??
Not likely…even though it should be so, if the figure$ used in the percentages shared are ever to be believed. In the NFL, the Owners don’t even like each other knowing what their books look like, let alone the Union.
Contract settlement will happen LONG before the Owners ever give in to Union demands to see the books more closely…and that’s because, if Congress start asking anti-trust questions, those books might actually be pried open. No way the Owners let that happen.
Another reason why there will be NFL football this year.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
One of the major initiatives of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) has been pushing for is the expansion of for-profit and privately managed schools in K-12 education. As part of this push, Christie has been championing a school voucher expansion that would cost the state $825 million to funnel tax dollars to private schools, while at the same time slashing spending for public education, cutting $820 million last year alone.
Last week, Christie announced a new “public-private school pilot program” which would allow “local school boards [to] hand control of some so-called ‘transformation schools’ to education management organizations, possibly including for-profit firms.” Christie designed the new program with Acting Education Commissioner Christopher Cerf, the “former president of the world’s largest for-profit operator of public schools, Edison Schools Inc.”
The New Jersey Star-Ledger notes that Christie actually has a very strong financial tie to Cerf’s for-profit company. The private law firm at which Christie worked as a lobbyist between 1999 and 2001 actually lobbied New Jersey’s government on behalf of Edison Schools:
From 1999 to 2001, Christie was a registered lobbyist at a law firm that lobbied New Jersey government on behalf of Edison Schools, according to filings with the state Election Law Enforcement Commission. While the firm was representing the multinational education company, Chris Cerf was its general counsel.
The firm, Dughi, Hewit and Palatucci, also represented Mosaica Education, a for-profit charter school operator, and the University of Phoenix, a for-profit online university. At the time, the firm listed two lobbyists, Christie and William Palatucci, a longtime political ally of the governor who is a named partner in the firm.
June 13th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Hayes,
Why not just let the government run the NFL? What could possibly be wrong with that?
June 13th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Another great cut & paste job, Krappy! Looks like another wasted Monday on the couch, huh?
Don’t ever change, old goat!
June 13th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
The Lakers will cut Artest, Walton, and Fisher to get under the cap
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and the Heat are “losing” Bibby, Howard & Dampier to get under the cap
call it a wash
June 13th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Beecher….got a link?
June 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Yes let govt run nfl and all sports…..yes tell em liberals MORE GOVT INTERVENTION is best for us in all areas of life
June 13th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
I bet ole KPDK didnt know Hitler was good ole liberal just like him
June 13th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
And KPDK how dumb are you? Did you not see me say I was rooting for Miami and I was right about the awful fouls called. Who knew Miami didnt want a gift wrapped game?
June 13th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Man, I’ve been watching that old dog Michael Kelly of Kane & Associates get humiliated on this blog for years now, but he’s probably hit an all time low!
Even his grandson Brian the Genital is calling him out for his embarrassingly dweeby web profile pic.
Yeah, yeah Krappy, we know – you’ve been to Copenhagen!
June 13th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“RAIDERS SHOULD BE TAKING A HARD LOOK AT PRYOR???”
Jerry, you’ve been knocking back a few to many appletini’s, if you are serious on this one…
June 13th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
909. Nah, disagree. Jerry makes perfect sense on this one. H.W.S. and a cost effective project to invest in. If he busts out of the Leauge not a major blow.
If he finds his potential he could be a very effective weapon.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
The two most hated athletes in the country are pryor and James and neither one hass committed a crime worth talking about or hurt anyone or done anything most of their collegues have done.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Yes let govt run nfl and all sports…..yes tell em liberals MORE GOVT INTERVENTION is best for us in all areas of life
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Less meaning less corporate hand outs and MORE oversight on the trillions they waste!
How does the NFL have anti-trust status? Used to be illegal but now tons of Corps enjoy masive monopolies that are clearly horrible for everyone but them.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
428. This is nothing new. I remember Bush in his first election pushing for vouchers. They want to privatize schools so they can teach their exclusionary Na–zi platform.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
June 13th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
427. Players know owners don’t want that. They don’t even really care whats in the books. It is being used as leverage and should be.
This is business and BIG business at that. The owners will use what ever wrangling they can no matter how much they whine and try to play hurt victim.
IF no agreement is reached the Judge hinted he will side for the owners on the lock out and for the players to proceed on the anti-trust suit.
Like you said, no way they let that happen.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
most of their collegues (haven’t) done*
June 13th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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I’m not for Gov health care either but the current system is demonstrably brokne and our tax dollars are being raped by trillion dollar insurance and pharmecutical companies. That HAS to stop.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Lol KPDK always regurgitating that mess….hey old man not like u ever gonna face me like a man. I pray you get those season tix in sec 215. We will see how big your mouth is. few bloggers met me before so im at the games
June 13th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Hustling dime bags in the parking lot don’t make you anybody, lol.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Nnamdi youre a racist lol
June 13th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Dime bags? Lol no one even calls it that anymore old man. Im not a dealer Im a user. When folks cross game on that they usually fail
June 13th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
How bout you hustlin ppl pretending to be a soul brotha when u are just a damn mullato with zero identity
June 13th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
BHP pryor is sorta dumb and acts like he dont give a fk but lbj quit on his team at home and has nerve to insult ppl after his Babe Ruth shot didnt happen. 3 years straight the guy shown his ass. Its no wonder ppl are on their heads
June 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Take a look at Pryor? For what? He is not an NFL qb at all. Delivery footwork and all stinks. Dont waste time with that Bobby Brown haircut buffoon
June 13th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Krappy you better be nice to your grandson Brian the Genital, who else is going to change your diapers in Sec 215 during halftime?
Man, the Kelly Family is just plain nuts!
June 13th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
N21….why would Sl@bama stop it? He gets breaded out by those companies. But hey he can shoot a 20 ft jumper and dances on lesbian hosted shows as a Christian man lol
June 13th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Bauce how’s Pryor worse than someof these bums that got drafted? His football is no worse than Cam’s and his delivery is as good as anyone else’s.
Naw this is garbage if Tebow can get drafted in the 1st certainly Pryor can go in the 3rd or mid rnds.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Butt Bandit Beecher….what dont u get about KPDK in no way possible being related to me? None of my grandparents are mixed. 100 pct black. As you can tell from hishideous pic he is no way a full bred brotha
June 13th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Krappy I’m throwing a Canuck victory party tonight in my suite and need a obedient, grinning doofus to my guests and I meatballs.
If you can make it down here in the next 2 hours, I’ve got a cool $30 for your pocket.
Plus you get to watch my ladies do keg stands on the PARTYDUDE 8000 margarita machine in nurse’s outfits.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
What we have to stop is this all power government that creates trillion dollar corporations by granting them monopoly priveledge.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
BHP….COME ON you dont see a sissy ass throwing motion by Pryor? Cam and Pryor are no way on same level talent wise. Ive never been impressed with Pryor’s ability
June 13th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Twocents Your boy sl@bama wouldnt CHANGE that for the world….u see that dance he did? Very presidential
June 13th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
30 dollars? KPDK has been to Monaco and Ibiza didnt you know that Beecher? KPDK’s farts generate more than 30 bucks
June 13th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Brian the Genital, it’s true Krappy is no longer 100% African American. When you’re fully supported by a Caucasian lady as he has been for over 20 years, you automatically absorb half her color.
That’s just basic biology.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Bauce, I’m a Paulista.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Obviously we are jealous of KPDK AND HIS WEALTH plus his Norma Jean(Marilyn Monroe) looking wife
June 13th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
CVam got drafted 1st overall I’m saying Pryor should go in the 5th what don’t people get about that?? Cam stands to make $60+ mill Pryor will be lucky if he gets $2 mill where’s the risk??
June 13th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
You blog nerds are talking politics on the eve of the mighty Canucks taking home Lord Stanley’s Cup?
If you could see my ladies practicing the Lambada to Huey Lewis & The News’s “Power of Love” you’d be singing a much different tune.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Paulista eh?
June 13th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Master Beeecham,
Some of us talk politics because we see the writing on the wall. Your days of hedonistic pleasures will be ending all too soon. Enjoy it while you can.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Bauce, Ron Paul. I know he won’t win. But at least we will have tried.
June 13th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Ending soon? My hedonistic days are just beginning, o lonely blog dweeb!
As soon as the Chinese housing bubble bursts I’ll be pricing Tahitian islands to add to my portfolio.
Speaking of bubbles, and of you know how to clean pink champagne out of a bear skin rug?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Master Beeecham,
I wish I was as confident as you. I’m just trying to survive and prepare for a bleak future.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Hockey is dead to many on this blog but Canucks got too much for any team imo. maybe thomas pulls it out i dont know
June 13th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
Twofarts, get yourself together, man! I just gave you the stock tip that could change your life.
The one investment I discourage is purchasing any kind of equity in one of Krappy’s town homes.
Sure, they’re more than adequate for livestock, but so is your backyard.
Can’t wait to sip victory Canuck margaritas out of my designer replica Stanley Cup in a few short hours!
June 13th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:45 am
I knew as soon as Priesttj said the series was “OVA” after game 1, that the Heat were in trouble.
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“Put him in the ba-chroom”
Sonny
June 13th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Beecher better enjoy your romps…twocents is right….this badboy bought to be shut
June 13th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
465.priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
CVam got drafted 1st overall I’m saying Pryor should go in the 5th what don’t people get about that?? Cam stands to make $60+ mill Pryor will be lucky if he gets $2 mill where’s the risk??
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Based on recent history, this is very likely a moot point.
The Raiders have in recent years steered away from drafting players like Terrelle Pryor, i.e. players with more questions about them than answers.
Nice topic for a blog debate, but I just don’t see it happening for Pryor in Oakland.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
check it out fellas! the dirk mix!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU6UHBYJOUw
LOL!
June 13th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I am watching the game with my dog. No PARTYDUDE 8000 margarita machine, no nurse’s in skimpy outfits.
My dog loves me, beer chased everyone else away.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
that german DJ looks like Flea from the chili pepers. has the same crazy eye look and everything.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Master Beeecham, You do have a way with words, I’m chuckling over “Twofarts”. I am getting myself together but I will take my own path and leave you to yours.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
I am as prepared as I will ever be for the crash.
But they may come for me long before that and send me off to the reeducation camp untill I confess to be as stupid and ignorant as the real moron Raider.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
hey plunk, got a question for you. they say Jim plunkett is half Mexican, but that dude looks eskimo to me. your thoughts?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Of course they may not waste time reeducating old white construction workers. I best plan on passing away in my compound.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Plunketthead Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Of course they may not waste time reeducating old white construction workers. I best plan on passing away in my compound.
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Away from the septic tank, I presume?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Everyone knows his mom and dad are mexican american.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Beech
Why on earth would you have a party tonight when the game is going back to New Bejing for #7
June 13th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
KK you old racist fool, is that supposed to be funny?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
When the mob sees you have a white wife, you will wish you were at my compound, there or playing grin & fetch for Beechum at the fourth anuale Beechomatic Baja Bash.
June 13th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
KoolKell, are you saying that your compassion does not extend to country people with septic tanks?
June 13th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Yeah. I want to see another Boston team lose!
How you like that you bandwagon Boston fans who roam in here? Screw all Boston teams!
June 13th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
KPDK’S love stretches only to rich elite ppl or ugly ass white women
June 13th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Yeah if boston wins they will say they had best ten year sports run for a city. hope canucks win
June 13th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
The Canucks will win it at home.
June 13th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
News from San Jose (SI):
But first one of the sad stories of the weekend. Tom Martinez, the coach and mentor for hundreds of young athletes near San Jose, Calif., and the mechanical muse to three-time Super Bowl champion Tom Brady, is in grave condition after battling a kidney condition for years. His daughter, Linda Martinez Haley, quoted her father Sunday in a Facebook posting that said he had “a week to a month to live,” and wished those he has coached and taught “a very successful and fulfilled life.” It was a chilling nine-sentence good-bye note to everyone Martinez knows.
June 13th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
There is only one political party, it is the “Incumbent Party”. These thieving bastards only have one agenda and that is to get re-elected. They will do anything and say anything to stay in power and feed off the people.
June 13th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Hayes,
Read that yesterday.
Sad that he’s passing, but how nice it must be to reach the end and know that you touched and helped people along the way. It has to make the passing a little easier to take, for all involved.
June 13th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Why not give him a look? Any comparisn to Ronald Curry?
June 13th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Curry better passer?
June 13th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Mr players better quit f ing around and get something done. They don’t have to play in this league. What do you think?
June 13th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Maybe it’s just me, but I would take a Pryor over a Tebow or Newton any day of the week. Pryor was easily a better passer than both of ‘em.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Anybody following the NFL Network’s Top 100 of 2011? Curious to see where Nnamdi lands and how close he and Revis will be. Everyone seems to think it’s a lock that Revis will be ahead of him. I think you could argue it either way but they should be close regardless.
Here’s how I see the top 30 shaking out:
30) RB Arian Foster, Houston Texans
WR Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
29) WR DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
28) DE Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis Colts
27) NT Haloti Ngata, Baltimore Ravens
26) CB Charles Woodson, Green Bay Packers
25) WR Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
24) OT Jake Long, Miami Dolphins
23) WR Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
22) OLB Clay Matthews, Green Bay Packers
21) QB Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
20) QB Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
19) ILB Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens
18) OLB James Harrison, Pittsburgh Steelers
17) TE Antonio Gates, San Diego Chargers
16) RB Maurice Jones-Drew, Jacksonville Jaguars
15) OLB DeMarcus Ware, Dallas Cowboys
14) DE Julius Peppers, Chicago Bears
13) CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders
12) S Ed Reed, Baltimore Ravens
11) QB Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers (I’d have him higher but I remember seeing Rodgers revealed as 11 or 12 before the countdown started).
10) QB Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
9) CB Darrelle Revis, New York Jets
7) ILB Patrick Willis, San Francisco 49ers
6) RB Chris Johnson, Tennessee Titans
5) RB Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings
4) WR Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
3) S Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh Steelers
2) QB Tom Brady, New England Patriots
1) QB Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
June 13th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
It is amazing to me whenever the media jumps on a player negatively he becomes a non-player. It happened to Mike Mitchell in here all of a sudden he became a bum without even playing a DOWN he went from good prospect to downright bum. For no one other than Stevie Brown. Who hadn’t done a damn thing in the NFL.
Because the media says he can’t play now a legittimate prospect is a freakin risk at rnd 5. He can’t play anything but WR which he’s never played he’s been a QB his whole life. But all of a sudden he shouldn’t play there. The same things they’re saying about Pryor they been saying about black QB’s ever since there was a black QB and it’s sickening..
As I watch lousy white QB’s like Jake Locker and Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow get drafted in the 1st rnd. Pryor aint even worth a 5th rnd pick. It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Alex Smith and bums like that get drafted high for doing othing more than what Pryor did. It drives me freakin crazy……I could see if they were sooo much better but they aint some of them are worse………….period
June 13th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
5. aig-raiders Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“I think it is a bad business decision on (the UFL’s) part (to play in the fall). Right now is a dead space and we are all miserable without any football.”
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How many leagues tried to play during the NFL offseason and failed? USFL, XFL, WFL etc.
UFL has a sustainable plan. These smaller market cities draw fans with the hope of being the next expansion/relocation NFL city and play on small networks on off nights so no competition.
The quality of available talent is the difference.
Their season is between the NFL final roster cut and player acquisition deadline. They also allow personnel to get “called up” during the season. Therefore, unemployed former NFL coaches, cut vets & former college stars are available to join the UFL.
If they don’t make the jump, they are still available and healthy in the spring and summer for NFL tryouts.
Spring/summer leagues that play through NFL tryouts are limited to the quality of players who have given up on their NFL dream.
All that being said, I still haven’t watched a whole UFL game.
June 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
And people actually try to reason that crap out, like Oh! it makes sense…………..the hell it does…
June 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Best football player is hands down troy polamalu
June 13th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Calm down OG…..Pryor isnt my type of qb but he will get his chance from someone
June 13th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
If not Pryor then which young QB should the Raiders get & groom to takeover after Campbell?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
505.Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Best football player is hands down troy polamalu
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I love Polamalu but you can’t put him ahead of all-time great QBs like Manning and Brady. No other position on the field comes close to having the impact of the QB position. Personally, I’d have Aaron Rodgers in the top 3. When you factor in age there’s not a player in the league I’d rather have right now than Rodgers. Even without the age consideration I think he’s just as good as Manning and Brady at this point.
Polamalu will go down as an all-time great at the safety position. But safety is safety and QB is QB.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
UDFA Pat Devlin…..whats the risk? He is more of a qb than Pryor
June 13th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
502. Remember how Steve Young bashed the Raiders for not drafting Jimmy Clausen over McClain? Like he did anything more than Brady Quinn @ ND who was already a bust
June 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Raider J
They should get the best QB they can, the only reason I say what i said about Pryor is that I think the kid can be coached up. I’m not crazy about him or I would saying get him by the 2nd at least. I know he needs a lot of work. But if you listen to some of these people you’d think he throws with his feet. The kid has 27/11 Td to int ratio and completed 65% of his passes and won 31/35 games and was MVP in TWO BCS bowl games. He can’t be that damn bad………
OSU won a lot of games with this kid and beat QB’s that were drafted and rated much higher. IMO getting this kid in teh 5th would be a steal and you sit him coach him up. I watched everyone of these QB’s that got drafted and there is no question in my mind this kid is as good if not better than 80% of them. Ryan Mallet was hands down the best QB prospect in that draft the rest have questionable skills including Newton and especially Locker.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Chris, hard for me to see how Brees would be ranked ahead of Rodgers.
Manning and Brady maybe, but I’d rank Rodgers’ 2011 season over theirs too.
Rodgers played well and won a SB, and the game he played against Atlanta in the playoffs was one of the top performances by a QB that I’ve ever seen.
I’d be hard pressed not to select Rodgers number one overall of the top 100 of 2011.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Manning and Brady are out of this world QBs but an entire steeler squad plays better with troy out there. He was elite from the start. He does it all and aint really a super huge dude.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Rodgers is great as well may be the MVP this season but Troy amazes me damn near every game
June 13th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I think it’d be exciting to have Pryor and wouldn’t complain if we used our 3rd rounder on him. I’ve never been overly impressed with his sharpness as a QB though and think the odds are against him panning out, but the athleticism is really intriguing for a 3rd round supplemental pick.
We definitely need some help at QB. No faith in Campbell to lead us very far. The guy I’d really want — and this would be contingent upon him having his head fairly straight — is Vince Young. That guy would be a perfect fit, IMO. We’re going to be a team that runs alot. Factor in that Vince likes to look for his TE (Miller) and the fact that we’ve got extremely fast WRs often running deep routes and clearing out the underneath and VY could run wild on opposing Ds when DMC and McFadden aren’t. I think he’d be lethal in this mix. I also think he’s at least as good of a passing QB as Campbell is. Campbell has the bigger arm and more traditional delivery, but usually just checks it down anyway. I think Vince is more willing to at least try to push the ball down the field.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
troy is a beast, remember wanting him in the draft when we selected gallery at #2 overall, uggh.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
BHP…you an OG name me the great Ohio State qbs….Troy Smith? Hoying? Joe Germaine?
June 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
512.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Chris, hard for me to see how Brees would be ranked ahead of Rodgers.
Manning and Brady maybe, but I’d rank Rodgers’ 2011 season over theirs too.
Rodgers played well and won a SB, and the game he played against Atlanta in the playoffs was one of the top performances by a QB that I’ve ever seen.
I’d be hard pressed not to select Rodgers number one overall of the top 100 of 2011.
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I agree. But I recall seeing something on the NFLN weeks ago where they revealed Rodgers is like No. 11 or 12 on the list. That wasn’t necessarily my list, more of a prediction of how I think it’ll play out.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Troy was in the nnamdi draft i believe
June 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
from pryor to vy, i’d still take bruce,lol
June 13th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Vince Young? God no!
June 13th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
519.Bauce Rules Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Troy was in the nnamdi draft i believe
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lets check that. i think troy was two yrs. after nnam, 2004 i believe.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Raider J
If you saw Jimmy Clausen you’d know he was at best a midrnd draft pick. But for some reason it’s acceptable to draft them in the 1st while someone like Pryor gets ripped to shreds for WINNING. Doing what his coaches asked him to do. I’d bet dollars to donuts you’ve spent more time with a QB coach the Pryor did while at OSU. They got him saw what he could to help them win and biult a system around him to fit his skill set and played him. These kids don’t get coached because they win without much of it. All you have to do is listen to Mike Vick talk aboujt his career.
And then Proscouts talk wbout his mechanics like why doesn’t he have good footwork………..the answer is they didn’t teach him good footwork because they didn’t have to in order to win……………..period
June 13th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Me too….id take grad over those two clowns
June 13th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I wish our QB depth chart looked like:
1. VY
2. Bruuuuuce Almighty
3. Frye/A promising rookie UFA/A decent veteran who becomes available in free agency
Instead we’ve got Campbell being backed up by Boller. Yuck. Both those guys are pretty awful as starting options.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
you’re right bauce, 2003 draft.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Priest while you have a good point Pryor didnt show a great arm like Vick did at VT
June 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Vince Young damn-near singlehandedly won a NC in college. Was rookie of the year. Has been to two Pro Bowls. Has an excellent winning percentage in the pros. He’s not a prototypical QB, but he makes things happen and finds a way to win. And I think he’d be a perfect fit with our roster. Don’t really see it happening with the way we’ve committed to Campbell this off-season, but I think he’s far more intriguing and would make us a much better team than we are right now.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Im quite fine with JC as the qb going into training camp Chris. Im not fine we arent gettin him a number 1 and no vet stout guards. Very concerned here
June 13th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Naw….Hue would wanna deck VY…he hated the few times he worked with another arrogant ass named Jamarcus
June 13th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
TJ
Im not a big Pryor fan either but his athleticism and drive to win is undeniable… & for a 5th rd pick? Why not?
If the haters are right and he cant make all of the throws, he can still do what Josh Cribbs and Brad Smith do for their teams. Even that is worth a 5th rd pick.
+ He’s 21 yrs old! He has plenty of time to learn mechanics
June 13th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
vy reminds me of lebron
June 13th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Bauce I’ve watched OSU play since Schlister and Rex Kern most of the QB’s they’ve had play there were average at best. There’s an announcer on College football gameday who played there. Mich always seem to have better QB’s even going way back then. I’m not sure but I think Pryor was the highest rated QB to come to OSU.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Remember how awful Campbell was against the Titans, Rams, Steelers and 49ers last year? Just can’t get behind a guy who was atrocious in 1/3 of his starts and mediocre at best in most of the rest.
June 13th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Hopefully he improves in Year 2 in Oakland. We’ll see. If he is the guy I hope he proves me wrong.
Later.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Raider J that is how I see it……….If you took this kid and spent 3 years coaching him he’d be as good as a lot of these bums starting right now.
Well that’s the end of my rant……..I would’ve been happy to get Mallet or Kaepernick but we didn’t and this is a chance at getting someone who might just pan out.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
I heard someone on here was saying Terell Pryor was a better QB prospect than Jake Locker?? That may be the single most rediculous comment ever posted on this site, and I HATE the Huskies. Locker went top 10 and Pryor will never take a snap in the NFL at QB and sure as hell wont be drafted as one.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Chris you ever seen VY when teams force him to stay in pocket? I dont have to even look at his career stats and I know JC is a better qb. Guy never pass for over 15 TDs and will throw hella INTs. Plus he isnt a leader at all. VY SUCKS
June 13th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
VY leaves locker room after being benched? I also guarantee JC is far more accurate for our system. Al Saunders got a big playbook that VY too dumb for
June 13th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Sure VY CAN HAND BALL OFF….he can do it for 16 games but when playoffs comes his skill set gets limited because he cant pass. I’d take my chances with JC passing vs a playoff defense than VY
June 13th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Pryor better than Locker? Hahahahahahaha
June 13th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Locker sucks!!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
I want to see Campbell play well enough to keep the QB job for the next 5 yrs. For that to happpen…
J U S T W I N B A B Y !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Devlin better than Pryor? Hahahahahaha
June 13th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
For the NFL Locker is the better qb
June 13th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Devlin at least would be able to complete NFL passes
June 13th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Anybody that would take Bruce Gradkowski over Terrelle Pryor is clueless.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
You sure about Devlin completing NFL passes, Bauce I’m sorry man but you have bought the whole store full of bullcrap.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
BHP i know u from the old school and remember when black qbs were a no no but over the years a fair amount got their chance and was drafted. There is only one you know drafted that panned out for a decade…..Donovan Mcnabb. Yes they should be giving a chance but when they get it they better make good……just honest
June 13th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Locker sucks….hmmmm… he must really suck bad to be drafted so high. Jake Locker has ALL the traits you laud about Terell Pryor yet he sucks and Pryor doesnt. Hmmmm??? Not to mention Locker is ten times the kid Pryor is character wise.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Naw BHP…i had coupons and feel I got over
June 13th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
what the hell was so great about locker? dude was the most overrated piece of sh!t qb ive seen. that dude was no where near better than bradford had he come out last year.sayin he couldve been the 1rst pick was a joke. pryor does have a strong arm and he can be developed like any other qb. if he wants it then he can do it. i think he’s more similar to tebow than newton was. he aint great so thats why he is worth it as a mid rndr. low risk high reward. yall wanted devlin and he didnt even get drafted, haha!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Locker goes #8 to the Titans…..Pryor will go undrafted or switched to WR/TE….Hmmmm???
June 13th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
I dont think Locker is a pro bowl qb but I believe he is a quality starter. Pryor doesnt strike me as a nfl starter
June 13th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Armond,
Im no Locker fan and I hate UW but your a mo ron to say he sucks. I complete and utter mo ron. Doubt you ever saw the kid play.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Pryor will never take a snap in the NFL.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Pryor cant pass….he does have an arm that can throw distance sure but I hardly ever see great passes that an nfl qb makes
June 13th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
555.Dan Land Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Armond,
Im no Locker fan and I hate UW but your a mo ron to say he sucks. I complete and utter mo ron. Doubt you ever saw the kid play.
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mr i would say u r a complete jackazz and a virgin.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Good comeback. Tell me all about your knowledge of Jake Locker. Dying to hear it. Oh, he played at Washington by the way. Its a school up here in Seattle.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Bauce you believe Locker is a quality starter based on exactly what??? I watched this kid get challenged in a prosystem and he looked terrible. So what is this based on?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
tell me why i should give a fugg what u think?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Bauce did you see Pryor’s last game in the BCS bowl?
June 13th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
559.Dan Land Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Good comeback. Tell me all about your knowledge of Jake Locker. Dying to hear it. Oh, he played at Washington by the way. Its a school up here in Seattle.
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i know it was b!tch thats why i said it.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
He played Ryan Mallet in the BCS bowl game and he won the MVP?? He outplayed Mallett who struggled in that game. I believe Mallett to be the better player hands down but to say he can’t make NFL throws is way off.
June 13th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Still waiting for the BRILLIANT breakdown of Jake Locker by the genious known as Armond…..
“i know it was b!tch thats why i said it” LOL!!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Priest,
Why in your opinion is Pryor being universaly panned as a NFL QB prospect?
June 13th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Jake Locker is easy when he was a soph and they ran a system more tailored to his skillset he was outstanding because it allowed him to play outside the pocket. Ever since they installed that proset offense where he has to read and throw and go through his processions he has completely fallen off. His strength is scrambling and throwing on the run he has a great arm. He is accurate on the run but from the pocket he seems to not have a feel for where his rec’s are and how to make accurate throws his late with football a lot. Throwing behind and over as well as undethrows wide open rec’s. When he does throw well from the pocket he’s streaky. And you can bait him
June 13th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
u said good come back and i said i know it was. dont need to break down somethin to a jackazz that wants to be a smartazz. u wanna talk to me about a football issue then u better come at me right. expectin me to give u my opinion about locker when u act disrespectful is just ignorant. take that bs up with someone who will put up with your azz cuz i aint the 1. it is nice to know that u value my opinion tho so thanks!
June 13th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Lol Armond is no punk
June 13th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Pryor on the other hand has a good arm he is accurate in the pocket as well as on the move his issues are timing and seeing the field. Sometimes he seems to not use good mechanics which causes overthrows as well as under throws. You can tell he is very raw but he completes like crazy and is a very good leader. The thing I like about him most is his sense when to attack and buckle down and get it done. Like I said he’s ultra competitive he finds ways to win.
The Mechanics thing can be taught what can’t be taught is his leadership and competitiveness. His can make all the throws necessary to play in the NFL his issues are mechanics……………..period
June 13th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Sometimes he uses nad mechanics which causes over and under throws……..my bad
They both have similar problems it’s just that Locker spent 2 years in a prostyle system and was HORRIBLE!!
Ponder and Mallet spent the same amount of time and looked impressive. Both are accurate from the pocket and can make great throws all over the field great timing and put up #’s
While Locker struggled mightily
June 14th, 2011 at 12:58 am
Poor Hayes. Offered a scathing diatribe on me being a racist and a troll, that nobody even payed attention to. Still no responses. Not even a kudos. But Hayes, as you pointed out yourself, I got a ton of responses. You claim it’s due to a lack of discipline by your fellow Raider fans here. Shows how highly you think of them. I’ll offer another reason, and give them the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I even respect them more than you. I think it’s just because my topics are more interesting than yours. After all, how many times do people in here need to here that the Raiders can win the Super Bowl every year,…..”IF”.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:28 am
RAIDER / RMR / RICOCHET Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 12:58 am
“Perhaps I even respect them more than you. I think it’s just because my topics are more interesting than yours. After all, how many times do people in here need to here that the Raiders can win the Super Bowl every year,…..”IF”.”
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Trolling nuts ONE topic ever?
Al Davis is the anti-chr-i-st!
Thppppptttt!
June 14th, 2011 at 2:31 am
571. Priest, incorrect. Locker is the next Brett Favre. Watch his game film. He’s green but does some great things. ****ty cast behind him with the Huskies.
Bet you dollars to donuts 2 yrs from now Locker is better than at least Ponder. Kid strikes me as a dum-b azz.
Mallet? Best QB in a weak draft class. Have to see if he’s an attitude prob or not. If not? He could be great…
June 14th, 2011 at 5:07 am
I need……………………………….
A Little Less Talk and a Lot More Action…
June 14th, 2011 at 5:17 am
the next brett favre???… he’ll get the record for interceptions?
June 14th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Trade DMAC for the next Bret Favre!
June 14th, 2011 at 6:03 am
priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
The Mechanics thing can be taught what can’t be taught is his leadership and competitiveness. His can make all the throws necessary to play in the NFL his issues are mechanics……………..period
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Damn right leadership can’t be taught, and Pryor ain’t a leader. Trading swag for 20K+ dirty cash and tats? 9 cars or more for pennies? Putting your eligibility at major risk as well as wins/title?
Priest said he does whatever it takes to win. I say Pryor does whatever he wants, and doesn’t care if those wins are legit or voided. THAT’S the kind of “leadership” we can’t teach and don’t want. Piss on his mechanics (which suck anyway).
June 14th, 2011 at 6:32 am
GOOD MORNING BSJ.I AGREE WITH U ON PRYOR.MAYBE U CAN FIT “SWING AND A MISS REGGIE”INTO UR NAME SOMEWHERE…
June 14th, 2011 at 6:45 am
LOL
June 14th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Good morning nation.
i think pat devlin is the guy if we do indeed look to a rookie.
in case you haven’t heard. ALL owners are being told to keep their days open next week to meet in chicago on June 21st. this leads to the conclusion that they will be voting on the terms of a new CBA. 24 of 32 owners need to agree. my birthday is june 24th so mark your calendar this is the day that we get the announcement we’ve been waiting for
June 14th, 2011 at 7:05 am
I just hope we get football back before the Mayans reboot the planet.
June 14th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Good Morning Nation!
Do we really need a guy like Pryor?
582.Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:05 am
I just hope we get football back before the Mayans reboot the planet.
That is some funny sh*t!
June 14th, 2011 at 7:33 am
PTJ = Sorry bro but Pryor does not have a good arm he is not accurate in the pocket as well as on the move.
He may make it at the next level but he is years away from playing. Not to mention he will be missing a whole senior season of football, which he needed badly. In addition to the lock out he picked a real bad time to make foolish mistakes off the field.
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570.priesttj Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Pryor on the other hand has a good arm he is accurate in the pocket as well as on the move his issues are timing and seeing the field. Sometimes he seems to not use good mechanics which causes overthrows as well as under throws. You can tell he is very raw but he completes like crazy and is a very good leader. The thing I like about him most is his sense when to attack and buckle down and get it done. Like I said he’s ultra competitive he finds ways to win.
The Mechanics thing can be taught what can’t be taught is his leadership and competitiveness. His can make all the throws necessary to play in the NFL his issues are mechanics……………..period
June 14th, 2011 at 7:37 am
hwnrdr – No! We don’t need Pryor but I would not be disppointed if we got the guy on the cheap. He does seem to have a bad attitude but I am sure he is not alone. Interesting prospect as a WR or QB if he works out.
If he does not work out as a QB work him out as a WR on the scout team. If not cut him!
I would not wrap a bunch a dollars up in this kid though he is to immature and makes bad decisions.
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583.hwnrdr Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Good Morning Nation!
Do we really need a guy like Pryor?
582.Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:05 am
I just hope we get football back before the Mayans reboot the planet.
That is some funny sh*t!
June 14th, 2011 at 7:47 am
hmm just realized Mariah Carey was a hottie in the early 90’s
June 14th, 2011 at 7:51 am
CJ LEGEND..
well I dont see the need for Pryor either, but I think he could be a freak at TE, question is how much longer Zmiller can handle the beatings he gets annually… so if he is there in the 5th round, why not try it out??
June 14th, 2011 at 7:53 am
I must have said this 100 times but I guess it needs to be said again.
Since Randy Moss Al Davis stays away from problem athletes which is why we will never go after:
TO
Chad Johnson
Plaxixo Burress
VY
Kenny Britt
and of course Pryor
June 14th, 2011 at 7:57 am
No more OSU “athlete” Tight Ends! Dudley ruined me…
June 14th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Bracing for defeat, what a pitiful failure this clown is.
0bam@: My family approves of a one-term presidency
June 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am
The thing lost on some people with this Locker over Pryor debate is that Jake Locker is every bit the athlete, if not way more, than Terrel Pryor.
Jake has a much stronger arm, and is just as fast as Pryor.
Than you add that Jake Locker was a top 10 pick in football, and has already been drafted in the 8th round in baseball, even though he says he won’t play. I read that if he had committed himself full-time to baseball, he would be a top 10 pick as well.
So your talking about an athlete that could be a top 10 draft pick in two sports coming out of college. That has never happened, not even Bo or Deon were close to that.
Jake Locker is one of the best collegiate athlete/prospects of our generation.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Nothing gets past you huh? Well, 10 years later anyway.
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La Milicia Negra Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:47 am
hmm just realized Mariah Carey was a hottie in the early 90’s
June 14th, 2011 at 8:13 am
JFB, Danny Ainge? Drew Henson?
June 14th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Drew Henson, 6th round football pick, 3rd round baseball pick.
Danny Ainge was picked in the 2nd round in both, so he is a lot closer.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If you think BO is a one term president then you better check the Vegas odds again.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:18 am
A star QB and CF for a Pac-10 school??
That’s pretty rare air for any athlete.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am
I knew you’d look that up, lol.
Dave Winfield?
June 14th, 2011 at 8:25 am
OakGlen,
That was a quote from the derelict himself, deal with it.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 8:17 am
If you think BO is a one term president then you better check the Vegas odds again.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Beautiful day in the bay, best of the year!
June 14th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Ahhh…. Winfield. Good one.
That’s not my generation though, lol.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Winfield, Mattingly, Nettles, and Reggie Jackson. The pin stripes were all business back then.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:31 am
And your boy Rags was a part of that group.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:35 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 7:47 am
hmm just realized Mariah Carey was a hottie in the early 90’s
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MistaBrown Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Nothing gets past you huh? Well, 10 years later anyway.
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Nopez, Im sharp as a Katana…
I didnt care much for her back then, but I just saw a youtube clip from ‘Here is Mariah’ and I must I could do her!
June 14th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Mariah hasn’t aged well.
June 14th, 2011 at 8:43 am
mo money mo problems my nigguhs
June 14th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Jake Locker is one of the best collegiate athlete/prospects of our generation.
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No way. Priest said Pryor is much better….period
June 14th, 2011 at 9:00 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Mariah hasn’t aged well.
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yeah! its quite sad
June 14th, 2011 at 9:05 am
No way. Priest said Pryor is much better….period
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Priest may be a smart football guy, but he is not one for the prediction business.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 9:00 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Mariah hasn’t aged well.
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yeah! its quite sad
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boy she looked awful in Precious. But they dont look the same without all that photoshop. I saw Jolie once and upclose at an airport. Wify told me to take a picture and her asst was pissed. She hardly had any make up on and she looked very unattractive.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:11 am
BHP is from the old school as I said last nite. He remembers when there were no blk qbs. So when someone dogs a young athletic blk qb like Pryor it akes him back to the old days when people said blk qbs were smart enough to be qb. Stuff LIKE THAT i bet stings him still. But Pryor is trash
June 14th, 2011 at 9:13 am
he is not one for the prediction business.
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No he is not. But a loyal Al defender though. Gotta give him props for that. BTW, picked up a set of used wilson PI7 blades for less than $100. Can’t believe they were $500 when they came out. Sweet clubs.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:15 am
AIG..i remember living in LA and seeing them celeb sluts around town….alot are not impressive. I saw badder bzies at Cal St Northridge when I was there. And yes CSUN got more bzies than all schools in Socal except maybe Santa Barbara
June 14th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Graig Nettles. Loved the clip of when George Brett slides into 3rd, in a playoff game no less, than Nettles immediately starts kicking him than punching him in the face.
It was completely premeditated and awesome. If someone were to do that today, they might get suspended for the rest of the playoffs.
Back than, not only was there no suspension, they weren’t even kicked out of the game, lol.
Shows how sissified our generation has become.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Living in Vegas I seen my fair share of quasi-famous people up close. Paris and Nicki, Tara Reid, Anniston from way far away, etc.
Still to this day, the only one who took my breath away was porn star Eva Angelina.
I seen that aura that Charlie Murphy was talking about with Rick James.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I need some new sticks. Got a mixed bag, just broke the 5 iron, and I hate my 4 iron. So long irons are a major issue, so I just hit my 5 wood pretty much instead.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Sister Brown Eye crying again…man you are one pathetic human being.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Every time I come in here the guy is crying like a little girl….are you related to Dick Vermeil?
June 14th, 2011 at 9:30 am
rockbottomgolf has pretty good deals. You can always go the way Hill goes 5, 7, 9 wood. Holy cow, never seen anybody do that before. I may try a 7 wood.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Shows how sissified our generation has become.
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the next gen is even worst. I keep on hearing there are no wins and losses in some kids baseball games. Talking about building a winner.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I keep on hearing there are no wins and losses in some kids baseball games. Talking about building a winner.
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That’s just the worst.
They are told there are no winners or losers, than they go to the real world and get a job where they are told to produce or you will be laid off in 3 months.
I guess they are just being groomed for a cushy, non-important city job, lol.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
The Heat should trade LBJ to orlando for Dwight Howard.
June 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
The market is having a nice and much-needed rally today.
Maybe everyone is feeling good about the potential of Bachman in 2012?
June 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
AIG, I play 2003 Hogan Apex blades… SO pissed Callaway killed the Hogan line.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:01 am
510.Raider J Says:
June 13th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
502. Remember how Steve Young bashed the Raiders for not drafting Jimmy Clausen over McClain? Like he did anything more than Brady Quinn @ ND who was already a bust
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Were Young or MeShawn even a part of this years first round on BSPN draft day?
June 14th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Vegas also had the Heat heavily favored, even at halftime for game 6!!!
And besides, it’s not actually “Vegas” but some offshore thing.
Can’t bet on non-games in Vegas. No football draft odds, political stuff and so on.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:03 am
The Panthers spent a 2nd round pick on Claussen, and the #1 overall on Newton…………..and chances are they will need to draft another QB in a few years.
Great job Panthers!!!!
June 14th, 2011 at 10:11 am
The panthers will need a QB your right Kim Newton is a flop.
But don’t tell Mystic the stupidvillian that he drinks Newtons bathwater and will argue you to death about how Kin Newton is REVOLUTIONIZING the NFL….even though there is a lock out and he has not played a down in the NFL yet.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:12 am
I’m not sure Trevor Scott is a lock on the roster for 2011.
A little Oakland Raider pillow-talk might help him with the old man though.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Yeah Dakota I read that……go pull up what Nick Miller said about JC looking more assertive and confident with his teammates
June 14th, 2011 at 10:13 am
666,
Last year he called it the wave of the future, lol.
He included Troy Smith as part of the wave. Troy Smith, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell and Cam Newton.
Not sure I would hitch my saddle to any of those guys.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:16 am
JFB
636 you are so dead on about that……”Not sure I would hitch my saddle to any of those guys.”
June 14th, 2011 at 10:17 am
VEGAS…..scott is more than likely gonna be on roster. His sack production has been to good for al to let him go. I’m sure we ccould have used his pass rush skills vs Miami,Jax and Indy
June 14th, 2011 at 10:23 am
JC more assertive, B? Hell, could the man be any LESS assertive?
“I would greatly appreciate it if you would continue running the route next time, Darrius… if that’s alright with y’all”
June 14th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Im curious to know what FAs that Al is looking at when this lockout ends.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Romney/Southwick 2012? Magic undies for everyone!
June 14th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Gotta be OL, QB and longsnapper Brien…
June 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Bo….im just relaying what his teammate said. The knock by many on this blog is how passive JC seemed last season. He will be your starter sept 12th so you outta be happy more confidence and take charge is aprt of his program
June 14th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Bo….never will happen but would be nice except long snapper….we will keep condo
June 14th, 2011 at 10:30 am
True, I outta be happy. With JC. But he needs to shorten that MF release and work on his timing…
And when JC gets busted up or sucks we need a man behind him. I want Carson.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Bo we got many holes right now…LG,RG,WR,NT,DE,WLB and FB. Al gotta pull something out his ass on this
June 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Carson who? Palmer? Backup behind JC? lmao
good one
I don’t think Palmer wants to go from the bungholes to the Raiders period, but especially not to be a backup to JC.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:34 am
652.Bauce Rules Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Bo we got many holes right now…LG,RG,WR,NT,DE,WLB and FB. Al gotta pull something out his ass on this
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I wake up at night in a cold sweat after dreams featuring McFadden running behind an o-line consisting of: Valdheer, Loper, Rookie, Campbell, Rookie
June 14th, 2011 at 10:34 am
JC’s release pisses me off too….moreso when he doesnt let is sling and tentative passing the ball. im like mfka fire that fkin pigskin!
June 14th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Dakota….Loper is not starting at LG…it will be Cooper Carlisle
June 14th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Is that supposed to make me feel better Brien?
June 14th, 2011 at 10:36 am
It don’t.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Palmer sucks…..JC over him. He was the main idiot lobbying for TO and aint been good in 5-6 damn years
June 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Dakota my heart fell to my shoes when I was told it
June 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am
We just have to make sure to prevent those 1,000 yard stares Soup gets into when he is getting knocked around a little.
Looks like Spinks against Tyson before the fight. Scared as hell, glassy-eyed.
Teammates need to see some fire in those situations in the huddle.
Soup has been very Lebron-esque so far in his career. Hides or doesn’t show up when his team needs him most.
Maybe Hue can light a fire under his arse and get some damn pep in his step.
Gotta run, later Nation.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:43 am
What sucks is that we had some success at running the ball last year….even though we gave up a ton of sacks.
Which tells me that we needed minor changes to the O-line not a complete overhaul.
The one thing we had going for us last year is now being toyed with.
Welcome to the life of a Raider fan!
June 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Yeah well 2011 is JC’S SHOT TO SILENCE CRITICS! No excuses but would be nice if we had a WR1,blocking FB and better guards
June 14th, 2011 at 10:47 am
663.Bauce Rules Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Yeah well 2011 is JC’S SHOT TO SILENCE CRITICS! No excuses but would be nice if we had a WR1,blocking FB and better guards
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I agree. JC certainly wasn’t my first choice as the Raiders’ QB, but considering the options out there right now we have to roll with him at least one more season, so you might as well give him a chance and get him some protection on the o-line and someone, anyone, who can catch the damned ball.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:48 am
666…..minor? Any tough dline dominated us…..plus we arent running a zone scheme anymore. We got to have guys conducive to the power scheme. we need bigger guards. The plan Ive been told we will have light in the ass guards. wont know how that works
June 14th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Soup has been very Lebron-esque so far in his career. Hides or doesn’t show up when his team needs him most.
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LOL. Pepless wonder. At least the walrus could blame the sipsip…
And NO WAY is Cooper starting at LG! RG maybe…
June 14th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Dakota exactly no better options to start for the 2011 Raiders. Look at the offensive strategy we using and look at the OC coming. VY,Palmer and guys like Grad wont work
June 14th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Veldheer gave up a shiiiteload of sacks last year, and not having Gallery next to him and no offseason to help improve his game makes it hard for me to believe he will have a great 2nd year.
Can’t play two rookies with little to no offseason workouts.
Same goes for Bruce Campbell….unless the coaches have been working with him in violation of the lockout then there is no reason to believe he should be a starter.
Carlise or Loper?
You can’t gamble on an o-line like that. O-line should have been addressed years ago and now we will be paying the price in 2011 for that negligence.
June 14th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Bo….why wont he start at LG…..just tell me why its NO way…..im very interested to hear this
June 14th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Veldheer-Carlisle-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale is your oline unless someone major is signed
June 14th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Raider staff members like Veldheer alot from what Im told
June 14th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Would not be so quick to lable Kim Newton a flop or a bust waiting to happen.
Think it’s too early to write off Claussen as well.
I don’t know about Kim revolutionizing the QB position, but I will say if he can throw with accuracy, learn to read defenses, and stay healthy, he has a very good chance to be a premier QB in the NFL.
There’s no doubt Kim is a physical beast. There were times he looked like a man amongst boys scrambling in college. If he develops a better passing game to add to the arsenal, he’s going to be very hard to handle.
Don’t understand why people ridicule his overall nbr 1 selection or are so quick to deny his immense potential.
Personally, I don’t like the guy’s personality. Seems like a conceited prick. I don’t believe for a second that he wasn’t aware of his pop’s ‘play for pay’ scheming. I’m pretty sure he was guilty of some criminal activity and other transgressions that got swept away.
Kim’s been thrust into a difficult position career wise. He’s been drafted by a team with an anemic offense. There’s great expectation that he can start from day one and turn the Panther offense around. Alot to expect from a rookie whose passing ability and NFL readiness is in question.
Might not happen from the get-go, might not happen for another year or two. But I wouldn’t bet against him eventually playing very well in the NFL.
Find it kind of amusing that after 6+ years of floundering in the NFL, there are those that haven’t given up yet on JaJason Campbell, but have written Kim Newton off before he’s even taken a snap in the NFL.
June 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Hey even though he is a Chief you have to applaud this guy:
Leonard Pope saves boy’s life
Kansas City Chiefs tight end Leonard Pope, whose nickname is “Champ,” lived up to the moniker last weekend when he saved a 6-year-old boy from drowning in a swimming pool.“
I wasn’t waiting on anyone else … to try to pull him out. I just felt because I have kids of my own I would want someone to do that for my kids, also. ”
The Chiefs’ backup tight end on Saturday saved the son of a longtime friend from drowning in his hometown of Americus, Ga.
“My heart dropped. It could have been any child … I just knew I had to do something,” Pope said in an interview with “ESPN First Take” on Tuesday. “I wasn’t waiting on anyone else … to try to pull him out. I just felt because I have kids of my own I would want someone to do that for my kids, also.”
According to his bio on the Chiefs’ website, Pope has two young daughters.
The boy’s mother, Anne Moore, told the Americus Times Recorder that Pope was the only person at the party who knew how to swim. Pope said he learned how to swim when he was 9 or 10 years old.
“He saved my son’s life, and I am so thankful that he was there for me and my child,” she told the newspaper.
Pope jumped into the pool — wearing all of his clothes, “cell phone, wallet and everything” — and pulled her son, Bryson, from the water.
“I was coming out of the house, I heard Anne cry. She was like ‘get, get him, he’s drowning!’ I couldn’t see Bryson. All I could see was his fingertips at the top of the water and I couldn’t see his head,” Pope said.
The NFL’s lockout turned out to be good fortune for Moore and her son.
“The fact that he is normally at camp and could have been in Kansas City just proved to me that he was placed here to save my son from drowning, and I thank God that he was here,” she told the newspaper. “He truly lived up to his nickname ‘Champ’ because he was truly a champion for me and my son this past weekend.”
The Chiefs are an organization that has dealt with a similar tragedy. It was 28 years ago this month that star running back Joe Delaney drowned while trying to save three children from drowning in a Louisiana pond. Two of the children died.
June 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am
H Jackson will bring the Oakland Raiders to the Romney WH, obviously.
June 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am
As Super Bowl champs, obviously.
June 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am
RAIDERMANN99
Its a matter of priorities with Kim.
There are some players that eat sleep and crap football they have no other agenda in life but to be a successful football player they spend off hours watching film working with coaches etc.
This is the reason why Manning and Brady and Brees are so successful. I seriously doubt Kim has the dedication and commitment to being a great NFL QB, sure he has the talent but is he willing to apply himself and stay focused on football.
This is why some of us are calling him a bust already.
June 14th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Kim wants to be a mega superstar not a football player
June 14th, 2011 at 11:17 am
“Kim wants to be a mega superstar not a football player”
DING DING DING
you hit the nail on the head!
June 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I ask again (507). If not Pryor then who?
Foremost, I’m pulling for J. Campbell to play well enough to earn a new contract after 2012.
Regardless, the Raiders need to groom a QB over the next two yrs to take over if Campbell is not the one.
How about Josh Johnson (TB) or Dennis Dixon (PIT)?
Otherwise, the list is not impressive
Marc Bulger (BAL)
Todd Collins (CHI)
Caleb Hanie (CHI)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Trent Edwards (JAC)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Brodie Croyle (KC)
Chad Pennington (MIA)
Tyler Thigpen (MIA)
Tarvaris Jackson (MIN)
Jim Sorgi (NYG)
Kellen Clemens (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Bruce Gradkowski (OAK)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Billy Volek (SD)
Troy Smith (SF)
Kerry Collins (TEN)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
June 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Shots fired…
June 14th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Sorry Bauce, I forgot Pat Devlin who you recommended over Daryll Clark interestingly enough.
Others picked Vince Young also
June 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
I would trade JC for Carson Palmer if the Wintern is still focused on GM duties…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
If not Pryor then who?
the FA list is not impressive;
Marc Bulger (BAL)
Todd Collins (CHI)
Caleb Hanie (CHI)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Trent Edwards (JAC)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Brodie Croyle (KC)
Chad Pennington (MIA)
Tyler Thigpen (MIA)
Tarvaris Jackson (MIN)
Jim Sorgi (NYG)
Kellen Clemens (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Bruce Gradkowski (OAK)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Billy Volek (SD)
Troy Smith (SF)
Kerry Collins (TEN)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
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J,
I’ll take Stanton or Thigpen as a backup if the price is right!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Others picked Vince Young also
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I’m one of them.
If VY gets his head on straight, he’s a great fit.
Whoever the Raids bring in has to have good mobility.
With the doubts concerning protecting the QB and a young unproven WR corps, the Raid QB is going to have to make plays with his legs.
If the line can protect the QB, then someone like Bulger could be an ideal temporary solution. But Bulger is immobile, and has sustained alot of injuries and hits.
But for as long as he could survive out there, he’d be better than JaJason too.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Trevor Scott thinks the promotion of Hue Jackson to head coach may help the Raiders clear that next hurdle and land them a spot not only in the playoffs, but eventually in the Super Bowl.
“I think Hue Jackson getting hired as a head coach is a huge step forward,” Scott stated with Richardson very much approving. “It kind of stinks seeing coach Cable go . . . he did nothing but go up every single year, so best wishes to him, but I feel like Hue Jackson is going to take that next step to where we were and he’s going to take us to where we want to go and that is to win the AFC Championship and then win the Super Bowl.”
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Jarvis Moss better start kissing Hue’s butt as well!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
yup, looks like Trevor is doing some massive brown nosing.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
If VY gets his head on straight, he’s a great fit.
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99,
thats a huge IF!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Monte Kiffin on Lane Kiffin: ‘He’s a good person’
By MICHAEL LEV
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
Our series of question-and-answer sessions with USC assistant coaches resumes with the elder statesman of the staff, Monte Kiffin.
Talking to Kiffin is kind of like conversing with Abe Simpson. He has a lot of old war stories, and he isn’t shy about going off on tangents to tell them.
(If Monte Kiffin is Abe Simpson, does that make Lane Kiffin … Homer Simpson? Remember, Lane worked for the real-world equivalent of Monty Burns – Al Davis. But I digress.)
We begin the first of our two-part chat with Monte with the subject everyone wants to discuss with him – his boss.
Question: Getting to coach with your son — is that something you guys talked about for a long time? How did it come about?
Monte Kiffin: Lane never talked about coaching (together) until he got the Tennessee job. When he got the Raider job, I was under contract anyway (with Tampa Bay). And I wasn’t going to go the Raiders. So it didn’t even come up. But at Tennessee, it definitely did. He got it and said, “Dad, would you ever think about it?” I didn’t really know if I wanted to go back to college. I’d been in the league for 25 years, 13 years with the Bucs. I had a pretty good thing going there.
But anyway, we talked about it. I don’t think, if would have been a regular place – in all due respect, if he’d been the head coach at a smaller school — I don’t know that I would have. I don’t know that he would have expected me to. But Tennessee was something – 107,000 people in the stadium. A lot of it had to do with where it was.
Also, of course, he’s your son. … I kid him. I bought a house over at Tennessee; I thought I’m probably going to be here awhile. And then he gets the call to coach Southern Cal. He goes, “Dad, what do you think about Southern Cal?” I kind of went, “Whoa, what is this, a one-and-done? I wish you had told me; I’d have rented.”
Contrary to what people may think at Tennessee, he was never going to leave. You don’t go to Tennessee and (then) go somewhere else. This was a special deal. It was just a unique situation.
Q: How much does it bother you that your son is often portrayed in the media in a negative light?
Kiffin: Every time his name comes up, somebody will say, “There’s Lane Kiffin again.” I’ve gotten to the point that I don’t let it bother me. Nothing you can do, you know? You don’t like it. But in the same sense, if you know Lane …
We’ll go into a parent’s home. They’ll talk to me off to the side and say, “Boy, your son’s really a nice kid.” I’ll say, “Yeah, he is a good guy. If he wasn’t a good guy, I wouldn’t be coaching with him.”
I don’t care what his name is. I don’t like working for a head coach who’s a jerk. He’s not. He’s a good person.
Q: Publicly, he doesn’t show that personable side of himself.
Kiffin: People just misread him. He’ll laugh and giggle and kid around.
Q: What do you think is the biggest misconception about him?
Kiffin: I think it’s that right there. It’s hard when you’re the dad. You’re trying to talk about your son, so you’re not going to bury him. But I know other coaches. If you talk to the guys on the staff that he’s worked (with), Tennessee and here, they’ll say the same thing. They really like working for him. I had opportunities to go back to the NFL. I had two after the Tennessee thing. … I don’t care if it’s your son or not, if I didn’t like working for the guy, I would have left.
Coach (Ed) Orgeron could have gone anywhere he wanted. He could have gone back to the NFL too. Joe Barry left the NFL to come here. I don’t think, if that (Lane being a bad guy) was the case, that these coaches would all go with him.
Q: I’ve heard stories about you working late, long hours, watching film. Is coaching something that always appealed to you?
Kiffin: I just love it.
Q: What do you love about it?
Kiffin: I love being around the players. I don’t care whether it’s high school, college or pro. I would go out and help the high school coaches when Lane was a high school player. I did it with my son Chris when he was in high school in Tampa. You have to have a passion for it. I just totally have a passion for coaching. I love the X’s and O’s. I love watching tape. I like strategy. I like enthusiasm. I like to have fun.
This is one thing about college. The NFL is awesome. It’s a great experience. I love them both. … I come back to college, I didn’t realize the pep rallies, the students and all that – wow! I forget there’s all that. I love that rah-rah. I love coming up here on Friday night. They have a pep rally right here at Heritage Hall!
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/kiffin-304246-monte-abe.html
June 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Terrell pryor the next josh cribbs type he can be a player the game changes for if he works hard thats if he works hard he will be better than cam newton
June 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
VY sucks. How is he a great fit? The guy cant pass at all. Spare me his pro bowl stuff cuz his team never made postseason those years. He wont pass for 15 tds nor even 3000 yds in a season. Plus guy throws hella ints. Seee offense we run? Do know who Al Saunders is? VY is a hell no
June 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Well thanks for some comic relief Brownie. Back to sales calls. Later boys. Keep him honest guys.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Lane never talked about coaching (together) until he got the Tennessee job. When he got the Raider job, I was under contract anyway (with Tampa Bay). And I wasn’t going to go the Raiders. So it didn’t even come up.” – Monte Kiffin (ouch)
June 14th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Warren Buffett pledged to pay $1 million to any CEO who can prove that his average fed. tax rate isn’t lower than his secretaries. Response? Crickets?
Big business runs the repubs. and now they are telling us that the way to fiscal solvency is to lower taxes on them AGAIN.
Even though they are lower than Reagun’s already, thanks to our outstanding leader.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Sounds like ol’ Monte Kiffin doesn’t like Al.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Well Al disgraced his incompetent bastard Lance, so no surprise there…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
And this one is more MR…..lol remember your bs yesterday about LBJ talking about tea party white ppl and not poor ppl? See the black man from Cleveland on Espn second what I said? Lmao again I win you lose. That guy knows about lbj more than us….thanks for playing
June 14th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I guess not that bad…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Just saying, Bo. Monte Kiffin is a well respected coach. I think his opinion goes a lot further than Al’s, these days. Just throwing it out there.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Raider J Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I ask again (507). If not Pryor then who?
Foremost, I’m pulling for J. Campbell to play well enough to earn a new contract after 2012.
Regardless, the Raiders need to groom a QB over the next two yrs to take over if Campbell is not the one.
How about Josh Johnson (TB) or Dennis Dixon (PIT)?
Otherwise, the list is not impressive
Marc Bulger (BAL)
Todd Collins (CHI)
Caleb Hanie (CHI)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Trent Edwards (JAC)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Brodie Croyle (KC)
Chad Pennington (MIA)
Tyler Thigpen (MIA)
Tarvaris Jackson (MIN)
Jim Sorgi (NYG)
Kellen Clemens (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Bruce Gradkowski (OAK)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Billy Volek (SD)
Troy Smith (SF)
Kerry Collins (TEN)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
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Billy Volek would get us to the AFC final… he is what Al wants in a QB too… how many years am i going to say this before AL listens???!? LOL
June 14th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Plus Monte coached for Gruden when Al ended his coaching career in the NFL. WHOA! Monte dislikes Al? Hold the presses.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
LBJ TOOK A DIRECT SHOT AT POOR PPL….now I even a lightweight CRYami Heat suppporter hate that guy now. Even better hearing rumors Rashard Lewis was lambin his baby mama
June 14th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I can roll with Billy Volek as backup here
June 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Bo, do you really want to bring up the history between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Oakland Raiders?
June 14th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Trent Edwards would be my first choice as a backup QB for us.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
By the way Bo I dig the new moniker very funny!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Billy Volek had a decent year with Tenn a few years back….always thought he would have been a perfect fit for the Bears during their Grossman days.
He is pretty long in the tooth now though, but would be a decent backup for a year or two
June 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Monte Kiffin is one of the most respected coaches in football today. Search these here internet tubes, Bo, and try to find one negative article about Monte Kiffin. Then do a search on Al Davis…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I don’t think that Monte will leave his son…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Curious…
Could Pryor come in and play receiver for a couple years? Espn were predicting that he would sit for two years, because he is so raw?
Approximate 4.3 forty, 6-3, 233 lbs! Sounds like Hue could have a lot of fun with this guy.
Yeah, Billy Volek would be a great pickup!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr, if you look closely at Monte’s carefully chosen words, it’s clear he would never come to the Raiders, under any circumstances.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, MJ that whole era was chuck full of guys that were fierce competitors. They could shoot 90% from the line they lit it up in the 4th quarter.
Unlike LBJ.
June 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Hahahahahaha
June 14th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Bauce to tell you the truth young blood you know what fries me more than anything. Is to watch white QB after white QB get drafted high just because he’s white.
He has no better skills than anyone else and iun fact is less talented but they excuse it and draft him anyway and he turns out to be the bum everyone thought he was. From Steve Spurrier to one Heisman winner after another and the Alex Smiths and and Brady Quinns and Jimmy Clausens to Jake Locker. They always see them as worth the wasted money because they’re white and I’ve watched that crap for a half century. And watched them do it again this draft overdrafting these bums ONLY because they’re white and praying they pan out only to see them fizzle sit on the bench and draw an NFL paycheck for 10 years with out ever living up to the Hype.
Kyle Boller, David Carr, Alex Smith and on and on. Had they darfted them where they should have those teams wouldn’t suffer the way they do but they overevaluate these guys like crazy. It’s unnecessary and puzzling…..why in hell would anyone in their right mind draft Jake Locker 8th overall??? That is pure Lunacy the same as it was with Brady Quinn. Anyone with an objective opinion could see that kid was average at his very best. Yet that bum will get paid NFL money until he gets ready to quit and they want to make Pryor everything but a QB.
That’s what fries my ass………..and it’s like that in every aspect of this society…………period
June 14th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
It was said that teams should get this guy (Pryor) on their draft board, draft him and worry about what position he will play later…he does have the size and speed that Hue could have fun with…although…that does NOT sound right…LOL
June 14th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Billy Volek as starter!
Trent Edwards as Backup..
Campbell as a starter in Canada!
June 14th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Trent Edwards is another good backup option….but dont be dumb like Ninerwoman49 and suggest a guy who cant pass like VY
June 14th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
702.RAIDER Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Hwnrdr, if you look closely at Monte’s carefully chosen words, it’s clear he would never come to the Raiders, under any circumstances.
You’re right, and why would he? That would be a slap to his son’s face…
June 14th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
La Melissa JC is better than both those guys….stick to soccer u faeg
June 14th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
I guess next week cba deal will be done
June 14th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
priest, good comment. That’s the truth. Like Oakglenn, if you just avoid talking Raiders and stick to big world topics, you’re the smartest guy in the room. lol
June 14th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Hwrndr,
You’re missing the point.
Monte Kiffin would not come to the Raiders, even if his son stopped coaching, or even if his son were coach of the Raiders, and wanted him. Read what he said. It has nothing to do with loyalty to his son. Everything to do with him refusing to coach in Oakland. He has a problem with the Raiders, and had the same problem when his son first got here. Wonder what it is.
June 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
well ill take pryor for a 5th RD pick not much risk in that or even lower
June 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
In our offense we do alot of play action fakes….neither volek or edwards are better than jc at that. neither is a more accurate passer or better decision maker
June 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Good monte doesnt wanna coach here…..no biggie
June 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
I guess next week cba deal will be done
lets keep our fingers crossed
June 14th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
how many 400yds games does Campbell have on his cv?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
All I’m sayin g is use the evlauation process the sam efor everyone and stop the favoritism crap. Draft the Brady Quinns where the talent dictates and it’s all good. Quinn was 3rd rnd pick at best the same as Jake Locker at best a 3rd rnd pick then you can’t lose.
No but they give him all that money for nothing and it never stops. This idiot Mike Mayock talked up Blaine Gabbert as if he was Sam Bradford and he couldn’t carry Bradford’s jock in a wheel barrell.
June 14th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Bauce have you even seen Trent Edwards play?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Brien, is our current defensive coordinator better than Monte Kiffin?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
where else do we pick up a cheap young athletic guy tell me he would have atleast gone in the 2nd rd next yr
June 14th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Campbell as a starter in Canada!
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Not good enough.
June 14th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
666 of course i had just like you….never said he was trash but at those 3 things he aint better than jc
June 14th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Lol La melissa….400 yards? Come u euro faeg! I never said JC can carry a team and many posts i have back that up
June 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
bauce I was thinking of him as a potential backup for JC next year.
we need an experienced backup QB.
June 14th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
MR…for what Al wants schematically froma defense no Monte isnt better suited than Bresnahan at DC
June 14th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Nick Miller’s thought on JC:
“He is reaching out to people, taking charge of situations and people are looking to him,” said receiver Nick Miller. “You can feel it. The whole vibe has changed … the quarterback is the leader of the team and he’s definitely the guy now.”
(Posted for RockStar)
June 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Trent as backup yes….have no prob with him as insurance
June 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Ninerwoman49<——imbecile
June 14th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Lol Dutch…..many on blogs hate JC and wont even appreciate him doing what he needs to do to improve in 2011
June 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
@Priest
What is your opinion on Pryor and the Raiders?
Do you think it is insulting to have a QB play another position until he is QB ready?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
BHP….I THINK Gabbert was best qb in this draft. I believe he will do well in NFL
June 14th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
La Melissa JC is better than both those guys….stick to soccer u faeg
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Who you calling faeg, your homeless father?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Bauce Fool
You little punk azzed, know nothing pootbutt. Don’t you ever get outside?
June 14th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I only go outside when Mrs KPDK calls
June 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
KPDK…..let’s look into archives and see who is on blog more since 08…..i bet overwhelmingly you are on more so spare me……..homeless father? Are u mad my dad is a real full blooded brotha unlike you?
June 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
JaJason is probably the 4th best QB on the Raid roster.
Boller, DMAC and Lechler are better than JaJason.
Bush might be able to do a better job too.
JaJason won’t make it through the pre-season.
If he doesn’t get one of his stingers or concussions, Hue will yank him for being a pussified zombie that can’t handle the blitz and is petrified to throw the ball downfield.
JaJason sux.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
bauce..
Billy Volek is the Fourth quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in two consecutive games (2004)
we will be lucky if Campbell will give us 250yds back to back…
June 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Volek should be a starter!
June 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
guys chill jc will be a top ten qb if he keeps bringing the guys to his house we will be legit contender in the afc not just the afc west
June 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I’m not at all saying Pryor is some damn good QB, I think he is at best a 3rd rnd pick I don’t overrate him I see what he is. I think he can definitely play QB as well as if not better than a lot of guys in this league drawing NFL paychecks. How can Kyle boller stay at QB and he can’t. How can Brady stay at QB and he can’t why was Gannon allowed to stay at QB but he can’t the list is ENDLESS.
I think it is disrespectful to ask this kid to change positions while these bums get to draw big $$ being less than QB’s. How is that in any way fair to him to ask him to change positions while he “LEARNS” to play QB………….that is IMO INSANE………………period
June 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
La Melissa……all i have to do is call up Seyi Ajirotutu and get his view on Volek as a season starter. He is just a backup
June 14th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
he had all are reciver over for a pre traning camp so his effort and a little heart will be a big inprovement
June 14th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
improvement excuse me
June 14th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
tj if we ask him to learn te and wr he will be that much a getter qb in the long run
June 14th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
“I think it is disrespectful to ask this kid to change positions”
It used to be that a guy would do anything to make the squad even play a different position. Now days you have the spoiled modern day athlete who takes himself out of games and cries to the media if you ask him to do something he does not want to do.
When Bush was asked to play fullback he pizzed and moaned but he did it. Why should this guy be any different he should have the mentality that he will play any position the coach asks him to help the team win.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
“How can Brady stay at QB”
Because he wins games!
Its pretty simple in this league when playing QB if you win you stay in if you lose you could lose your job as a starting QB.
There is no other way to look at it.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
well put 666
June 14th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 14th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
“I think it is disrespectful to ask this kid to change positions”
It used to be that a guy would do anything to make the squad even play a different position. Now days you have the spoiled modern day athlete who takes himself out of games and cries to the media if you ask him to do something he does not want to do.
When Bush was asked to play fullback he pizzed and moaned but he did it. Why should this guy be any different he should have the mentality that he will play any position the coach asks him to help the team win.
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It’s called Freedom.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
And La Melissa…..volek did that shhhht before JC got in the league. U name the two teams he had 400 yard game against. Ask how great those defenses were and who won? lol next
June 14th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
If you’re an Human Resources person, and some company wants you to be an Admin Asst, you don’t have to take that job. Try to get another in your field.
Only black people are presumed to be totally subservient to their Corp Master.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Bauce Gabbert could turn out to be a superstar for all I know. I’m saying evaluate him fairly. If you evaluate Gabbert IMO he is a late 1st early 2nd rnd pick. Because he does have great potential eventough it was always demonstrated on the field in maybe 3-4 years he can be an outstanding talent. That IMO is a fair asseesment the same is true with Cam Newton I said b4 the draft that Cam wasn’t IMO a 1st rndr his upside is awesome but it is going to take him a couple of years at least.
A high 1st rndr has to be pro-ready able to start and be productive early in his career even as a rookie. If he can’t he’s not a 1st rndr. Someone who needs grooming is NOT a 1st rnd respecially high unless his skillset is just sick. Andrew Luck is a cinch 1st overall pick and completely worthy of thagt selection. Landry Jones is a high 1st because it’s there you see it it’s not a mirage, those kids are ultra talented. Russell would flat blow you away with his abilities an easy high 1st rndr.
The guys that got drafted this year NONE of them came close to blowing you away on film in person or fast asleep. They are all very average and need a lot of work. Yet FOUR went in the first 15 picks. It was INSANE!!
Ryan Mallet could out throw Gabbert in his sleep…………………….period
June 14th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
“It’s called Freedom.”
We are not discussing the Bill of Rights here.
This is the NFL and if you want to disagree with the coach there are 100 other guys willing to take your spot on the roster.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
@Priest
Not many of the white QBs can play another position. Seems like a waste to let this guy sit on the bench as he prepares to be a starting QB. I love the Kordell Stuart story. ESPN (the experts) were saying he should sit for two years.
But when I heard 6-6, 233 and ran a 4.3!!!!
Gannon was drafted by the Patriots to play safety. He balked and was traded to the Vikes.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
“If you’re an Human Resources person, and some company wants you to be an Admin Asst, you don’t have to take that job.”
No you don’t have to take the job you can stand in the unemployment line while 500 other people apply for the job you just left.
Stop trying to make everything in here racial KK its pathetic!
June 14th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Where’s Jhill I told him the Heat should start Chalmers at PG and play LBJ at point forward and Jalen Rose said the same thing on “First Take” this morning ESPN. He virtual co-signed everything I said……….it was funny to hear.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
“They are all very average and need a lot of work. Yet FOUR went in the first 15 picks”
Its called supply and demand there is a huge need for QB’s in this league and taking any QB straight out of college is a crap shoot. ANY QB!
June 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
dam 666 is getting all coach john madden on the blog
June 14th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
If Pryor doesn’t want to play DB, he doesn’t have to. And he can do so without the guilt of “turning his back on “massa”
Free Country.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Nick Miller’s thought on JC
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LOL, thanks Dutch
I wonder what Bodiford, Adeniji & Ausberry think about JCamp???
just as relevant
June 14th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I know what you’re getting at Dutch and I know you mena well. But playing any position at this level takes dedication it’s not like college. The ONLY way Pryor will learn to play QB is constant study and hard work on his technigue and it still will take him 2-3 years b4 you see anything from him. He needs a ton of work but he’s worth it he’s supremely athletic and has the framework of an NFL QB he’s just not polished. His footwork is worse than yours. And the mechanics of throwing an accurate pass is sorely lacking. He has to be rebiult, he sometimes throws with his body leaning sideways. It will take camps and offseasons and you could have a possible superstar, he’s that good with everything else.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
JaJason is probably the 4th best QB on the Raid roster.
Boller, DMAC and Lechler are better than JaJason.
Bush might be able to do a better job too.
JaJason won’t make it through the pre-season.
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LOL!
and if we sign Vince Young you’ll be calling him “JaVince” within 6 months and making a case for the Raiders to trade for McNabb or Garrard
99, cool your jets bro. this is Campbell’s year
June 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Sorry Big oak but its not a right to play in the NFL its a privilege.
Some athletes will do what it takes to be a part of the TEAM while others are more concerned about their own selfish wants and desires. This goes for white, yellow, green, gold, silver and black athletes.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
I think I worded that wrong it was not directed at Big Oak. I was saying sorry to Big oak for getting all preachy about how lucky these guys are having the opportunity to play in the NFL.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I think KK is a “The glass is half empty kind of guy”
Now he will say I am being racist but I know I am not so keep on posting your angry rants old man.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
but tj the qb’s job is to know what everyone else has to do what other way then to condition with wr and te as well
June 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
666 so we should make Pryor a TE instead of QB………..right with all this high demand for QB’s
Listen I’ve made my case and it’s clear……if they can stay in the league and play terrible QB why can’t he? it’s that simple.
June 14th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Billy Volek is the Fourth quarterback in NFL history to pass for more than 400 yards in two consecutive games (2004)
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LMN,
I don’t even think Volek’s agent is using something he did 7 years ago to land him a need backup gig next season
He’s 35 now. He hasn’t started a game since 2005!
probably a reason for that. I don’t see Kevin Kolb chillin for the next 5 or 6 years
June 14th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
“so we should make Pryor a TE instead of QB”
No but if we take him and he is on the team he should be willing to do whatever the coach asks of him.
Thats all.
June 14th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
rockstar
u see campbell working hard to improve having camps at your home to get the timing down for this yr the same offense as last yr to build on
June 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Pryor not coming to oakland as a qb or wr or a freak te….end of story
June 14th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
we always want to see effort out of the qb position so lets atleast give some credit here
June 14th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Exactly RRS…..usually ur a voice of reason
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RaiderRockstar Says:
June 12th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Jason Kidd & Dirk were complete non-factors in the first half … surprising!
Jason Terry is putting this team on his shoulders with a little help from Marion & Stevenson
How can you take Dirk out of the game and still trail by 2?
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Stop making excuses. They lost game 2, and that finished them…even though they came back to tie the series, the Mavs had them figured, and LeBron was MI motherf%&kin A in the fourth in the last 2 games, AND YOU KNOW THIS. Everybody knows this – theyre just making excuses in the media to CYA on LeBron. Dallas won, PERIOD. Work Ethic, Guts, AND SHOWING UP – heil Novitski!
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