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Should Pryor pay for NCAA sins?

Got an interesting e-mail the other day from a reader regarding my column on former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor.

Chris Turner from Keller, Texas, made the point that Pryor shouldn’t be allowed in the NFL supplemental draft because he essentially be getting off without punishment for violations which helped land Ohio State on probation and lead to the dismissal of coach Jim Tressel.

“What punishment is Pryor really getting for what he did now? Nothing. He cheated, still played in his bowl game, and instead of serving his five-game suspension and returning to Ohio State he wants to go pro and get his big contract. I just feel that we are letting the cheaters go even without even a slap on the wrist and sending the wrong message to future players that it is okay to cheat and just go pro once you get get caught and the NFL will take care of you.”

The supplemental draft has an application process, so it is within the NFL’s power to deny entry, although it would likely result in a lawsuit on Pryor’s behalf.

A few points worth making on Pryor and the price he did or did not pay:

– It’s not the NFL’s job to police the NCAA. It has enough to do keeping its own house in order. It’s not the NFL’s fault that the NCAA felt compelled to allow Pryor to play in a bowl game before serving a five-game suspension which is now off the table.

– Spare me any tears for Tressel on this as the guy who got victimized by Pryor’s misdeeds. It’s his job to keep an eye on his star players, not cover up for them.

– Agent Drew Rosenhaus not surprisingly dubbed Pryor a first-round pick at a spin session today (I hesitate to call it a press conference because no questions were taken), but if that happens, it would be a first. Conventional wisdom seems to be no one will bite until the third round at the earliest _ meaning Pryor at best will be in line for a signing bonus in the $600,000 range or less depending on how far he falls.

Before Ohio State came tumbling down, Pryor, with a strong senior year and a third straight bowl victory, could have been looking at much more guaranteed money. So he’ll lose out financially in this deal, even if he never serves a suspension of any sort.

– Pryor made some bad decisions concerning money (as many have before him that never came to public light) but there is nothing in his track record that suggests he doesn’t work hard and and take his athletic gifts seriously.

– There is no set date for the supplemental draft. It is typically held about three weeks before training camp begins. According to an NFL spokesman, the league believes it can hold a supplemental draft whether or not there is a lockout _ much as they held the regular draft in that situation.

– Fielded a few questions about the fourth-round draft pick sent to Washington in the Jason Campbell deal in light of a story awhile back that the pick came back to the Raiders if the quarterback didn’t make a Pro Bowl or other statistical incentives. According to a league source, Washington still has the Raiders pick in the fourth round.

GREAT SCOTT, A SUPER BOWL?

Defensive end Trevor Scott thinks Hue Jackson is the man to take the Raiders to the Super Bowl based on an interview he did with former teammate Jay Richardson and printed in Football News Now.

More interesting was Scott’s frank comments about having to continue to rehab his torn ACL without help from the team medical staff.

“It’s kind of been some BS, the fact that I’ve been doing my own rehab and not allowed to talk to trainers,” Scott said. “I’ve been putting my faith and my trust elsewhere to the guys rehabbing me now. It just kind of sucks the whole thing.”

Even with Scott getting just 1.5 sacks in 10 games before being injured, the Raiders had an impressive five defensive linemen with five or more sacks _ Kamerion Wimbley (9), Matt Shaughnessy (7), Tommy Kelly (7), Richard Seymour (5.5) and Lamarr Houston (5).

(I’m including Wimbley because most, if not all of his sack total came as a nickel rusher with his hand on the ground).

Scott had 12 sacks in his first two seasons.

A return to form by Scott could make the Raiders the NFL’s top natural pass rush teams.

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  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    You got me there Big.

    Off the top of my head I don’t know how many play-off games Tim played.

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    Rockstar…..

    Golf……..Noooooooooo!

  • Bauce Rules

    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    As far as Im concerned Alvis Whitted is better than Fairy Rice…….you guys may not like it but justice was served in Snow Job and sB37……Bauce got on radio in 01 and predicted only bad would come at the end for having Rice. 01 and 02 in famous fashion it did….nightmare started in 03 with him. 04 she pouted over not gettin a catch when we won! I was right! And he was never was a real raider thats why we didnt get a title….good

    come on now jerry rice was the truth u are tripping he should be our rec coach he worked hard all the time went across the middle caught almost everything he did more for us then tim brown did in the big moments
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    I like ya alot new guy but you are out of your league trying to debate this issue with me…Fk Fairy Rice

  • CJ Legend 34

    Don’t you frekin ever talk about TIM BROWN LIKE THAT!!!! Are you a Bronco fan? Timmy was the greatest!!!! How dare you give a punk like Joey Proter all the glory.

    I am going to give a chance to clear things up right now!!!!!

    LMAO!

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    243.big oak boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    we all love tim brown but what did he ever do in big games even joey porter caught a touchdown

  • Nnamdi21

    Scott in rotation as a situational pass rusher fine but truth be told he was sucking hind teat b4 the injury at LB / DE.

    If Jarvis Moss makes the team and Goethel lives up to the hype wouldn’t be surprised to see Scott join Richardson as another “former Raider”.

  • Bauce Rules

    Hwnrdr Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    246.neilb Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Big Oak Boy…

    I remember a game ‘gainst Denver when Tim owned them.Him and Hoss ran the show to get us into the play-offs where we again beat Denver.

    I remember that very well! Beat them in their house an dour house! NICE!
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    and then He had go ahead TD in big game in cold vs bills folowing week…so what the fk is the new guy talking about?

  • Nnamdi21

    254. Tim Brown is above reproach. Look who was throwing him the ball most of his career!

  • RaiderRockstar

    BAUCE,

    if Russell squanders his wealth and files for bankruptcy, then starts smoking crack … I guess you could say his “life is basically over”

    but I don’t see that happening. He seems like a good kid, just lazy & stupid. He’ll probably end up selling insurance like Bo Jackson … after he matures in a few years

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    _______________________________________________

    You’re quite the racist dumbass aren’t you?

  • Bauce Rules

    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    we all love tim brown but what did he ever do in big games even joey porter caught a touchdown
    *******************

    This is obviously a kid talking

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    _______________________________________________

    You’re quite the racist dumbass aren’t you?
    *************************

    You yesterday talked about Jesus Pimps and MLK is from the South and those types are the worse kind of pimps and he admitted to being a marxist! This is fact you dumbass

  • CJ Legend 34

    Can’t argue there RR. I was going to say he had a better QB, but to be honest the way DHB drops balls and Murphy gets a case of the drops as well, right now Porter is better. Now if Rich gannon was throwing to Murphy he may be a better WR.
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    234.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    Jerry Porter

    2004: 64 catches, 998 yards & 9 TD’s

    2005: 76 catches, 942 yards & 5 TD’s

    ***

    DHB

    2009: 9 catches, 124 yards & 1 TD

    2010: 26 catches, 366 yards & 1 TD

    Louis Murphy

    2009: 34 catches, 521 yards & 4 TD’s

    2010: 41 catches, 609 yards & 2 TD’s

    ***

    JP was better than Heyward-Bey & Murph combined !!!

  • http://www.safc.com/page/StadiumofLightDetail/0,,10281~1706060,00.html neilb

    New guy?

    Been trying to find Tim’s play-off numbers…

  • Bauce Rules

    come on now jerry rice was the truth u are tripping he should be our rec coach he worked hard all the time went across the middle caught almost everything he did more for us then tim brown did in the big moments
    ****************************

    Name Rice’s game winning TD for the Raiders…..name Rice’s big play that led a winning drive for us….I can roll thru Tim Brown’s episodes of doing that……back off new cat i have and always will roast Rice lovers

  • Bauce Rules

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    BAUCE,

    if Russell squanders his wealth and files for bankruptcy, then starts smoking crack … I guess you could say his “life is basically over”

    but I don’t see that happening. He seems like a good kid, just lazy & stupid. He’ll probably end up selling insurance like Bo Jackson … after he matures in a few years
    *********************************

    That dude still doesnt get it and still going as so. Still has cocky attitude and believe he is the chosen one. That guy is done and he is too dumb to sell anything such as insurance

  • Bauce Rules

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    254. Tim Brown is above reproach. Look who was throwing him the ball most of his career!
    ****************************

    Sat with Raider great john Vellas in 2001 and we discussed Timmy vs Rice…..Vella said Rice has greatest numbers but benefitted from playing with two back to back hall of fame qbs in their prime while he was in his. no player in NFL history had that luxury. Said if Timmy had that luck he would have shattered everything Rice did……a RAIDER talking….learn big Oak boy

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Sat with Raider great john Vellas in 2001 and we discussed Timmy vs Rice…..Vella said Rice has greatest numbers but benefitted from playing with two back to back hall of fame qbs in their prime while he was in his. no player in NFL history had that luxury. Said if Timmy had that luck he would have shattered everything Rice did……a RAIDER talking….learn big Oak boy
    _________________________________________

    I think you’re lying!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Tim brown was underatted. Oustide of james lofteon and jerry rice he never had a quality guy on the other side. Dokie williams, jessie hester, james jett, swervin mervyn fernandez.

    Dont even get me started on the qb list.

    It should also be noted that he missed an entire year with a knee injury, and he didnt play a lot in the west coast pass first offense that has inflated so many numbers for so many receivers.

    If tim had played with even an average counterpart or qb for the majority of his career his numbers could have been even better than rice.

  • Bauce Rules

    So let’s run it down for you Rice lovers

    June 2001= Rice is signed and Bauce gets on radio and rips the move and predicts bad will come from this

    2001 season= Darrell Russell issues, Woodson gets hurt for first time ever in his life! Had best record untuil late november then made Rice the go to WR losing last 3 of season meaning no first round bye and head to Foxboro…hence Snow job

    2002 season= dink and dunk ass year with timmy being phased out even more the SB37 wiping with sandpaper

    2003 season= starts the current nightmare of no playoffs and futility

    2004= after winning second game in a row after losing a tough game in pit week 1 Fairy is upset she doesnt get her reception record extended and kicks a cone in frustration when it was obvious team was gonna win

    So there you have it…..Rice was nothing and we got what we deserved. We didnt need those 49er bastards when we were already on doorstep of Super bowl. Justice happened

  • Silverandblack666

    “I think you’re lying!”

    Funny KK buts that’s how we all feel about you everyday!

  • big oak boy

    and then He had go ahead TD in big game in cold vs bills folowing week…so what the fk is the new guy talking about?

    was it a playoff game

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Sat with Raider great john Vellas in 2001 and we discussed Timmy vs Rice…..Vella said Rice has greatest numbers but benefitted from playing with two back to back hall of fame qbs in their prime while he was in his. no player in NFL history had that luxury. Said if Timmy had that luck he would have shattered everything Rice did……a RAIDER talking….learn big Oak boy
    _________________________________________

    I think you’re lying!
    *****************************

    He was there meeting an old USC teammate and former backup Raider qb Mike Rae!

    Plus I’ve been seeing Vella since 1987 when he opened that Raider store up in Castro Valley you moron!

    He had a sign that always caught my eye….It had a freeway sign saying the only thing I was see of LA was: 365 miles I-5 to Oakland

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    “I think you’re lying!”

    Funny KK buts that’s how we all feel about you everyday!
    ________________________________________________

    Who’s we, what other names do you blog under?

  • Bauce Rules

    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    and then He had go ahead TD in big game in cold vs bills folowing week…so what the fk is the new guy talking about?

    was it a playoff game
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    Big Oak….you need to read all the posts….see what Hwnrdr put? Then you will have your answer lol

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    “I think you’re lying!”

    Funny KK buts that’s how we all feel about you everyday!
    ________________________________________________

    Who’s we, what other names do you blog under?
    **********************

    WE=meaning everyone on blog

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    He was there meeting an old USC teammate and former backup Raider qb Mike Rae!

    Plus I’ve been seeing Vella since 1987 when he opened that Raider store up in Castro Valley you moron!
    ____________________________________________

    I’ve been there dummy, so what?

  • Bauce Rules

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Tim brown was underatted. Oustide of james lofteon and jerry rice he never had a quality guy on the other side. Dokie williams, jessie hester, james jett, swervin mervyn fernandez.

    Dont even get me started on the qb list.

    It should also be noted that he missed an entire year with a knee injury, and he didnt play a lot in the west coast pass first offense that has inflated so many numbers for so many receivers.

    If tim had played with even an average counterpart or qb for the majority of his career his numbers could have been even better than rice.
    ****************************

    Spoken like a true Raider

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Let’s hope Raiderman99 is wrong and nobody else starts calling him “JaJason” due to his play on the field this upcoming season
    ================================================
    Amen.

  • big oak boy

    bauce im glad your not the gm who were we suppose to get to play wr at that time

  • Silverandblack666

    “losing last 3 of season meaning no first round bye and head to Foxboro…hence Snow job”

    Those losses were because Gruden was distracted by the Notre Dame job and yes we had to go Boston to play in the snow because of no bye week.

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    He was there meeting an old USC teammate and former backup Raider qb Mike Rae!

    Plus I’ve been seeing Vella since 1987 when he opened that Raider store up in Castro Valley you moron!
    ____________________________________________

    I’ve been there dummy, so what?
    *********************************

    KPDK…..you said I was lying, now its so what? You make zero sense lol. I see Vella all the time. I live basically up the street from his current store next to Ricky’s thats why I said for you to meet me at 150th so I can slap you around and then get ya a drink at the Raider bar…..loser as coward

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    ___________________________________________________

    You think you speak for everyone on this blog, dumbass?
    666, BrownStains, yes, but not everybody.

  • Bauce Rules

    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    bauce im glad your not the gm who were we suppose to get to play wr at that time
    ***********************************

    At that time you were shooting dog water and hadnt hit puberty

    Bring back the dope head Rison. Many players were upset we didnt bring him back and many didnt like Rice. He wasnt one of the “guys”

  • big oak boy

    you get the best guy for the best value at that time

  • Silverandblack666

    Bauce is right again!

    WE=meaning everyone on blog

  • hwnrdr

    That is why Rice went back to sign a one day contract with SF to retire there…only fitting that he did! He had good numbers here, however, because he was a 9er, never will you catch me with a Rice jersey! I don’t hate the guy, and the 3 years here, I respected the guy, but he was NO Raider! And OMG…I remember someone passing me at our tailgate wearing that half 9er half Raider Rice jersey!!! I almost whipped a bottle at that guy…

  • Bauce Rules

    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    you get the best guy for the best value at that time
    ****************

    a49er faeget has zero value….and nada but bad occured….dont you get it or are those skinny jeans and fauxhawk you sporting got you confused?

  • Silverandblack666

    Andre Reed was a great WR but he had Jim Kelly and a run and gun offense. Imagine if Timmy had a QB like that and we ran the run and shoot offense his numbers would be insane!

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    a49er faeget has zero value….and nada but bad occured….dont you get it or are those skinny jeans and fauxhawk you sporting got you confused?
    _____________________________________________

    What a dumbass comment!

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    ___________________________________________________

    You think you speak for everyone on this blog, dumbass?
    666, BrownStains, yes, but not everybody.
    ***********************

    I speak for everyone in saying that you are a closet case no identity having mixed breed with a tight ass blue suit looking like “Beast” from X-men no life having wife always cheating me loser mthafka

  • Bauce Rules

    Hwnrdr Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    That is why Rice went back to sign a one day contract with SF to retire there…only fitting that he did! He had good numbers here, however, because he was a 9er, never will you catch me with a Rice jersey! I don’t hate the guy, and the 3 years here, I respected the guy, but he was NO Raider! And OMG…I remember someone passing me at our tailgate wearing that half 9er half Raider Rice jersey!!! I almost whipped a bottle at that guy…
    ***********************

    anyone who wore a Rice jersey is a loser and just a fake….the shemale said in the presser….”First off I’m a 49er for life”…….naw

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    a49er faeget has zero value….and nada but bad occured….dont you get it or are those skinny jeans and fauxhawk you sporting got you confused?
    _____________________________________________

    What a dumbass comment!
    ********************************

    How is it dumb? Please fail at explaining KPDK

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    I speak for everyone in saying that you are a closet case no identity having mixed breed with a tight ass blue suit looking like “Beast” from X-men no life having wife always cheating me loser mthafka
    __________________________________________

    Another dumbass comment, too funny, lol.

  • Bauce Rules

    And Big Oak boy….I’m waiting for the game winning TD by Fairy Rice or even a big play that led to a game winning drive in Oakland……please do tell…..we are patiently waiting lol

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    I speak for everyone in saying that you are a closet case no identity having mixed breed with a tight ass blue suit looking like “Beast” from X-men no life having wife always cheating me loser mthafka
    __________________________________________

    Another dumbass comment, too funny, lol.
    ****************************

    Truth is generally funny

  • Bauce Rules

    big Oak you were prolly one of them dumb little kids I use to see at the coliseum with your h0m0 Fairy Rice jersey and would cheer when she scored a TD and did the KY Jelly squat to celebrate huh?

  • Bauce Rules

    KPDK…..tell us more about the NAACP being started up by black people…..I mean you are so educated lol. Tell us more about US History as well

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce, don’t you think it’s time to go outside and play on the monkey bars? It’s a nice day.

  • Silverandblack666

    Bauce is right again…

    “I speak for everyone in saying that you are a closet case no identity having mixed breed with a tight ass blue suit looking like “Beast” from X-men no life having wife always cheating me loser mthafka”

  • Bauce Rules

    KPDK…..got a link?