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Should Pryor pay for NCAA sins?

Got an interesting e-mail the other day from a reader regarding my column on former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor.

Chris Turner from Keller, Texas, made the point that Pryor shouldn’t be allowed in the NFL supplemental draft because he essentially be getting off without punishment for violations which helped land Ohio State on probation and lead to the dismissal of coach Jim Tressel.

“What punishment is Pryor really getting for what he did now? Nothing. He cheated, still played in his bowl game, and instead of serving his five-game suspension and returning to Ohio State he wants to go pro and get his big contract. I just feel that we are letting the cheaters go even without even a slap on the wrist and sending the wrong message to future players that it is okay to cheat and just go pro once you get get caught and the NFL will take care of you.”

The supplemental draft has an application process, so it is within the NFL’s power to deny entry, although it would likely result in a lawsuit on Pryor’s behalf.

A few points worth making on Pryor and the price he did or did not pay:

– It’s not the NFL’s job to police the NCAA. It has enough to do keeping its own house in order. It’s not the NFL’s fault that the NCAA felt compelled to allow Pryor to play in a bowl game before serving a five-game suspension which is now off the table.

– Spare me any tears for Tressel on this as the guy who got victimized by Pryor’s misdeeds. It’s his job to keep an eye on his star players, not cover up for them.

– Agent Drew Rosenhaus not surprisingly dubbed Pryor a first-round pick at a spin session today (I hesitate to call it a press conference because no questions were taken), but if that happens, it would be a first. Conventional wisdom seems to be no one will bite until the third round at the earliest _ meaning Pryor at best will be in line for a signing bonus in the $600,000 range or less depending on how far he falls.

Before Ohio State came tumbling down, Pryor, with a strong senior year and a third straight bowl victory, could have been looking at much more guaranteed money. So he’ll lose out financially in this deal, even if he never serves a suspension of any sort.

– Pryor made some bad decisions concerning money (as many have before him that never came to public light) but there is nothing in his track record that suggests he doesn’t work hard and and take his athletic gifts seriously.

– There is no set date for the supplemental draft. It is typically held about three weeks before training camp begins. According to an NFL spokesman, the league believes it can hold a supplemental draft whether or not there is a lockout _ much as they held the regular draft in that situation.

– Fielded a few questions about the fourth-round draft pick sent to Washington in the Jason Campbell deal in light of a story awhile back that the pick came back to the Raiders if the quarterback didn’t make a Pro Bowl or other statistical incentives. According to a league source, Washington still has the Raiders pick in the fourth round.

GREAT SCOTT, A SUPER BOWL?

Defensive end Trevor Scott thinks Hue Jackson is the man to take the Raiders to the Super Bowl based on an interview he did with former teammate Jay Richardson and printed in Football News Now.

More interesting was Scott’s frank comments about having to continue to rehab his torn ACL without help from the team medical staff.

“It’s kind of been some BS, the fact that I’ve been doing my own rehab and not allowed to talk to trainers,” Scott said. “I’ve been putting my faith and my trust elsewhere to the guys rehabbing me now. It just kind of sucks the whole thing.”

Even with Scott getting just 1.5 sacks in 10 games before being injured, the Raiders had an impressive five defensive linemen with five or more sacks _ Kamerion Wimbley (9), Matt Shaughnessy (7), Tommy Kelly (7), Richard Seymour (5.5) and Lamarr Houston (5).

(I’m including Wimbley because most, if not all of his sack total came as a nickel rusher with his hand on the ground).

Scott had 12 sacks in his first two seasons.

A return to form by Scott could make the Raiders the NFL’s top natural pass rush teams.

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  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    Timmy wasn’t bad for a black Notre Dame guy, was he, Brien? Al wasn’t big on him at first because Al likes his black players to be rough goons, not all smart and uppity.
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    Actually Tim Brown said he heard that then found out it wasnt true. He was on Chronicle Live earler this year saying as such….try again

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Brien, Vegas says the country’s fine. Says he’s never been better, business wise or personally. I’m going to defer to him. He seems a lot more sane than you.

  • Bauce Rules

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    He’s not a liar he’s just a incompetent buffoon, or maybe both!
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    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Timmy went to two bowl games in college I believe and Raiders in 90,91,93 and 2000 were winning teams that made playoffs…..so again KPDK you are a liar
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    LOL he is beyond stupid

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    MB, nobody cares about that O-bama joke. It’s a failed crusade, buddy. Wrap it up, sleep it off, and come up with a new strategy tomorrow.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Brien, the Raiders didn’t make Gruden.

    Gruden made the Raiders.

    They were dead when he arrived, one of the best teams in football when he left.

  • Dakota

    June 7th

    “Among all Americans, 0bama and Romney are knotted at 47 percent each, and among registered voters, the former governor is numerically ahead, 49 percent to 46 percent . . . ” The Washington Post reports.

    Ouch….already behind Romney amongst registered voters….

  • RAIDERMAN99

    LOL dummy that Yiddish not even true original hebrew you dumb KaKike faeget

    dont be mad cuz I dont like your best player ever ninerwoman49

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    Wrong again, moron.

    L’Chaim is not Yiddish. It’s Hebrew.

    You’re really an ignorant fool.

    The great Rabbi Kahane was fond of pointing out that people like you are truly pathetic bcz you’re not only ignorant, you’re also arrogant about it.

    Of course I could respond to your KaKike comments by calling you NaNig, JaJig or CaCoon, but that’s not who I am or what I’m about. Not to mention that if I descended to your level, the guy that you’re bashing for being a ‘half breed’ would accuse me of racism.

    Carry on, ignoramus.

    JaJason sucks.

  • Bauce Rules

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    Imagine a sitting pres laughing about his stimulus failing while 36 mil are on food stamps and unemployment has gone up 3.5 % since he took office.

    Without question the worst pres this Country has ever seen.
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    Stop making up numbers

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Polls don’t lie. Romney could be the next president. I hope he and his supporters have a thick skin.

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    LOL dummy that Yiddish not even true original hebrew you dumb KaKike faeget

    dont be mad cuz I dont like your best player ever ninerwoman49

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    Wrong again, moron.

    L’Chaim is not Yiddish. It’s Hebrew.

    You’re really an ignorant fool.

    The great Rabbi Kahane was fond of pointing out that people like you are truly pathetic bcz you’re not only ignorant, you’re also arrogant about it.

    Of course I could respond to your KaKike comments by calling you NaNig, JaJig or CaCoon, but that’s not who I am or what I’m about. Not to mention that if I descended to your level, the guy that you’re bashing for being a ‘half breed’ would accuse me of racism.

    Carry on, ignoramus.

    JaJason sucks.
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    HAHAHA thats not what you are? Why use the words? Loser

    And that is Yiddish not Original Hebrew

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    yawn @ the religious discussion.

  • Silverandblack666

    in 2007 the DOW was under 7000 there were major corporations going bankrupt, huge banks and financial institutions that stood for decades were in peril.

    How can you say that is the same as 2011?

    Seriously what logic can you use to justify your ignorant statement?

  • Bauce Rules

    ninerswoman49…..you khazarian bastard babies dont even know your stuff

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    yawn @ the religious discussion.
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    This is not a religious discussion

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    One good thing about Romney winning would be that Republicans can finally peel off their 1770s garb and put their John Deere and Top Gun hats back on. The Republican reaction to the first black president was like one giant acid trip. My goodness they were funny.

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    Polls don’t lie. Romney could be the next president. I hope he and his supporters have a thick skin.
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    He is smart but rather boring tho….can he rally young people?

  • Bauce Rules

    RAIDER Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
    One good thing about Romney winning would be that Republicans can finally peel off their 1770s garb and put their John Deere and Top Gun hats back on. The Republican reaction to the first black president was like one giant acid trip. My goodness they were funny.
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    LMBAO! Too funny

  • Silverandblack666

    The reason the DOW is over 12000 now is because of investor confidence.

    We just came out of the biggest recession since the great depression what the hell is supposed to happen are jobs supposed to fall from the sky?

    What you media feed sheep don’t understand is that even if a republican was president right now we would still be feeling the after math of that recession.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    ninerswoman49…..you khazarian bastard babies dont even know your stuff
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    What a dumbass racist!

  • Silverandblack666

    Mitt Romney I am sure will make a good run at it but lets face it most Americans still view the Mormon religion as a cult and when it comes time to cast their vote I doubt many Christians will vote for him.

    The Majority of Americans call themselves christian obviously not me, but most do.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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    What a dumbass racist!

  • RAIDERMAN99

    MistaBrown, Can you please explain why you use the name ‘purple lips’ when referring to Prez Obeyme ?

    Is it to get by the censorship software ?

    Don’t take this wrong, I can’t stand Rev. Wright’s protege, just curious where the term came from ?

  • Dakota

    370.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    Mitt Romney I am sure will make a good run at it but lets face it most Americans still view the Mormon religion as a cult and when it comes time to cast their vote I doubt many Christians will vote for him.

    The Majority of Americans call themselves christian obviously not me, but most do.
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    Senate Majority leader Harry Reid is a Mormon….they are taking over! lol

  • Silverandblack666

    “Senate Majority leader Harry Reid is a Mormon….they are taking over! lol”

    Thanks for the info Dakota I am filling my basement with supplies to prepare for the end of the world as I type this. lol

  • Dakota

    Bill Hendrickson would have been proud!

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Mitt Romney I am sure will make a good run at it but lets face it most Americans still view the Mormon religion as a cult and when it comes time to cast their vote I doubt many Christians will vote for him.
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    I’m sure there’s some truth to this. However, you also have to consider the alternative is to vote for the incumbent Islamist.

  • Dakota

    lol

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Better than the Pentecostals.

  • Bauce Rules

    KoolKell Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    ninerswoman49…..you khazarian bastard babies dont even know your stuff
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    What a dumbass racist!
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    You got nerve

  • Dakota

    Jacoby Ford and the porn convention….too funny.

    “In response to inquiries on Twitter, Ford responded that he was not present at the event, adding he was not even in Miami when it took place.”

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    power hungry Mormons?

  • Bauce Rules

    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    Jacoby Ford and the porn convention….too funny.

    “In response to inquiries on Twitter, Ford responded that he was not present at the event, adding he was not even in Miami when it took place.”
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    Prolly was in Fort Lauderdale smashing two porn stars at once lol

  • Dakota

    382.Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    Jacoby Ford and the porn convention….too funny.

    “In response to inquiries on Twitter, Ford responded that he was not present at the event, adding he was not even in Miami when it took place.”
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    Prolly was in Fort Lauderdale smashing two porn stars at once lol

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    Good for him! Now if this was JLH or DHB, I may frown on it lol.

  • Bauce Rules

    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    382.Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    Jacoby Ford and the porn convention….too funny.

    “In response to inquiries on Twitter, Ford responded that he was not present at the event, adding he was not even in Miami when it took place.”
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    Prolly was in Fort Lauderdale smashing two porn stars at once lol

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    Good for him! Now if this was JLH or DHB, I may frown on it lol.
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    JLH has at least scored more than one TD in a season….DHB prolly would fumble and drop the ball with two drunk Barely Legal bzies

  • Dakota

    I don’t know, JLH might call for a fair catch near the goal line or he might run out of bounds with no chick near him!

  • big oak boy

    this jajason ish has to stop name me one time jamarcus showed some effort on and off the field

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    Dakota Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    I don’t know, JLH might call for a fair catch near the goal line or he might run out of bounds with no chick near him!
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    LOL oh my god….that one is too funny LMBAO

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    Big Oak Boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    this jajason ish has to stop name me one time jamarcus showed some effort on and off the field
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    the Yid doesnt know better

  • RaiderRockstar

    Johnnie Lee Higgins = stud!

    write the down.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • Bauce Rules

    anyways….yall have fun…check ya later

  • aig-raiders

    RRS.

    JLH has got more natural fb skills than DHB but JLH is missing a few screws upstairs. Dude had so much potential but Ford just took his roster spot.

    Dang, feel bad for Big Shot Rob today. Just lost his baby girl. Dude was so money when he played.

  • aig-raiders

    big oak boy Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    this jajason ish has to stop name me one time jamarcus showed some effort on and off the field
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    someone pointed out that JaWalrus didnt try and while JaChoke tried and still got worst QB ratings (@SF) than JaWalrus ever did. Or how JaChoke looks completely lost at times…like the time he took a knee in Tenn last year.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    I think “JaJason” is a play on race. Pretty childish.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    in 2007 the DOW was under 7000

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    Actually the Dow never even dipped below 12,000 in 2007, and never dipped below 7,000 until about 6 months after you know who got elected in 2009.

    I believe the Dow will dip below 10K by the end of this summer.

  • Just Fire Baby

    And unemployment will never go below 6% ever again in this country.

    Too many dumb people with saggy pants that aren’t worth hiring.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Actually the Dow never even dipped below 12,000 in 2007, and never dipped below 7,000 until about 6 months after you know who got elected in 2009.
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    I don’t think the Dow ever reached 12,000 until 2010.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    My Bad.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Well, like I said, if O-bama accomplishes nothing else, the behavior he incited in white male conservatives was certainly entertaining, and well worth the ride. 4 years without a Republican in the white house, and conservative white America just showing their ass. I’ll take it. And, that’s assuming he loses. To be hones, I don’t think he will. He’s right up there with Reagan and Clinton when it comes to campaigning. So, hopefully, 4 more years with no Republican in the oval office, and white conservatives going crazy on live t.v.! I’ll take it.

  • http://www.cnn.com RAIDER

    Is it at all possible that certain Wall Street forces are manipulating the market to give the appearance that O-bama is hurting the economy?