Raiders’ statement day
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, June 16th, 2011 at 2:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders wide receiver Jacoby Ford issued a statement regarding the use of his likeness in an “Exxxotica Expo” event in Florida featuring pornographic materials:
“To all my fans, friends and family, I just want to clarify that I did not authorize the use of my name or likeness for the Exxxotica Expo event that took place in Miami. I was not at the event or even in the state of Florida when it took place. It’s unfortunate people don’t take the right steps to seek permission before using player’s names and it ends up
portraying my support for something I would never be involved with. I stand behind the NFL’s ongoing investigation and want to make sure everyone knows that these are not the types of events I would personally endorse. I look forward to playing football and doing my best for the Raider Nation!”
The event featured an ad with Ford, Chiefs defensive backs Brandon Flowers and Eric Berry, Bears safety Major Wright and Texans defensive back Kareem Jackson in their uniforms. All players have issued statements similar to that of Ford.
Meanwhile, cornerback Stanford Routt felt compelled to issue a statement clarifying remarks made in SiriusXM radio interviews regarding the Raiders’ nearly exclusive use of man-to-man defense:
“Stanford has strong belief in the team no matter what the plays are going to be,” his publicist said in a statement to the National Football Post. “The team makes no excuses.”
Routt’s statement is a testament to the clout of Profootballtalk.com, because it was issued within a couple of hours after PFT linked to an item in this blog about the Sirius interview under the headline: Routt on Raiders D: Everyone in the league knows what our game plan is”
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June 16th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
1st
June 16th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Raider Nation all day….
June 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Obviously AL didn’t like Stanfords comments of his failed scheme. However, it wont stop him from directing Chuck to do exactly the same thing again in 2011.
Just be vanilla Baby!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Thec,
Give me your predictions for J Ford output for 2011.
thanks in advance
June 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
The team does need to get out of being predictable….
June 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Our D is not good enough to win a title…we lack a special pass rushing DE, an adequate WLB and a real starter at NT. When we get those two things holla at ya Bauce
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Obviously Mistic disagrees. We only need Oline and WR to be able to win it all.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
tj dont mind getting his wobble on during the day but thats cool you have some will power…
lol
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Mista…..for some crazy reason I dont like day games like this…..maybe cuz I get too drunk in the heat and I can better manage at night games lol
June 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
He is theculating again
June 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Mista aint it funny tho last time we had a run D….fatboy was our DC? My how the mighty have fallen
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Brown, what up homie? I would say JFORDS as a WR numbers should look like this;
up 40 receptions
up 750 total yards
up 7 in touch downs
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Fat boy meaning Rob Ryan ?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Thec07 Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
The team does need to get out of being predictable….
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If the coach wants to keep his job, he has to be predictable….unfortunately.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
R8eray<——-from LA….but nonetheless a real Raider
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Routt made a statement about how predictable our defense is… and uses the Eagles game as an example of how we were to give teams different looks we would win more games!!
He’s absolutely right!!
And as for Ford…bow wow wow yippee yo yippee yay…nothing but the dogg.. in ya!!
Aint nothin wrong with a little bit of PORN!!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
What up Bauce? and yeah you were right MLK was a straight Pastor Pimp…No diffrent than crflo dollar bill and TD Fakes….
June 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Bresnahan looks like a pudgy fk from Elemantary school days
June 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Thec,
When I want accurate and reliable information regarding J Ford you are the one I turn to. Those look about right I expected nothing less.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Ray….u would know! you are in porn capital and u aint far from vegas! lucky fker on that note
June 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
It wasn’t about porn it was about using his name or face without permission.
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R8eray Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
And as for Ford…bow wow wow yippee yo yippee yay…nothing but the dogg.. in ya!!
Aint nothin wrong with a little bit of PORN!!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Big BAUCE DOGG <——– REAL OAKLAND G!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Thec….did u just call the Nazi MistaBrown “homie”? Uh oh now you too are an Uncle Tom….welcome to club
June 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
R8eray movin back to Veagas… Bauce!
I’ll be out there wit the Las Vegas Booster Club….foe sho!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
17.MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Thec,
When I want accurate and reliable information regarding J Ford you are the one I turn to. Those look about right I expected nothing less.
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If he can stay healthy he should make those easy as the soup does have confidence in him…
I do not expect him to have the impact at KOR unless he is bringing it out every time. That new rule of moving the ball up 5 yards may have an impact, but as
June 16th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Yes I’m a nazi because I oppose govt ran healthcare and other marxist ideas obumba has rattling around that empty socialistic head of his.
lmao
June 16th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Bauce Fool, Troll
For all I know, you cross-dressing btch,
You
NorcoBooB
Raider E
BrownStains
666
Are all the same poster, if not, you can all kiss my black, as….z. ya feel me? lmao.
You little High School btch!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
21.Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Thec….did u just call the Nazi MistaBrown “homie”? Uh oh now you too are an Uncle Tom….welcome to club
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hahahahahahaha….
I have allways had much respect for Mbrown, not going to change that because some of the pro’s and personalities have issues or disagreements with him.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Sister Brown Stains
I have never once said we run a complex defensive scheme. You are low on brain cells today and are confusing me with Krapy the adult diaper wearing racist.
Go back to what you do best giving men hand jobs behind the 7-11 for meth money.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Nice going Bauce now KK is going to repost your sarcastic aryan joke 50 more times today!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
JFB, I’m going back to LV…after one year out in L.A. …time to go back! My vacation is officially OVER!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Back to Vegas? Holy shhht playa I plan to hit vegas up during the season a few times! College betting and playing them parlays ya feel me?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Thec u thinking for yoursellf? Bad idea says KPDk
June 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
False poopbutt I saw Norco and Bauce with my own eyes at a Raider game. Where was your fat tub of sh!t a$$ at? As far as 666, if you cant see thats OakGlen maybe get yourself some bifocals pops.
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Bauce Fool, Troll
For all I know, you cross-dressing btch,
You
NorcoBooB
Raider E
BrownStains
666
June 16th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
“Bauce Fool, Troll
For all I know, you cross-dressing btch,
You
NorcoBooB
Raider E
BrownStains
666
Are all the same poster, if not, you can all kiss my black, as….z. ya feel me? lmao.”
Now KK the adult diaper wearing racist is saying I am the same as Sister Brown Eye.
You two are exactly alike accusing people of having multiple monikers you should join forces in the fight against intelligence here on the blog!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
KPDK IS MELTING DOWN LOL….as I said a few weeks back when I saw his pic….im gonna roast him so bad this time he will actually wanna knuckle up
June 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Like Routt is going to come out and say something like:
” Our new D-coordinator Chuck B., says we’re going to go with a bunch of Tampa 2 next year.”
Always been man coverage, and will always be man covereage. As long as Al is still signing the checks…
June 16th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
lol @ KK knuckling up…..roflmao
June 16th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
KPDK……your black ass? You mean half black…..u prolly like Roddy Piper when he fought Bad News Brown at Wrestlemania VI
June 16th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
31.Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Thec u thinking for yoursellf? Bad idea says KPDk
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Boule the so called 5 percent entrusted with the so called leadership of the so called colored…
June 16th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Guess who?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Bauce…what you know about the Luniz?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
909 yep and we gotta get correct players to make it worth a damn
June 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Sister Brown Eye comes in here putting words in peoples mouths then acts like a tough internet chat gangster threatening to punch people.
Your act is wearing thin just like KK you post the same thing over and over. Makes me wonder if you and KK are the same person?
Yes it could be because when KK craps his adult diapers he then looks at the BrownStain left behind and quickly changes Monikers!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
How’s the 909 treatin ya? No dui’s right?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Anyway gotta get bac at it….Hopefully we will have Fball in 2011…
1 NATION….
June 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
666 is using every single chop that OakGlen failed with and KK is such a blind old fool he thinks we are one in the same!
LMFAO
June 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Lol from LAtoBay is back on huh? Whats good wit ya bruh?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
666 is using every single chop that OakGlen failed with and KK is such a blind old fool he thinks we are one in the same!
LMFAO
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BrownStains, a Troll is a Troll. You’re a Troll, ok?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Exxxotica Expo?
Is that a specialized type of OTA?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
bauce
it is so funny watching the old goat KK and BrownStains melt down.
Old Brownie got so uptight last week he was threatening to punch a blogger. Man talk about an insecure feeble minded douche.
I bet he is frothing at the mouth right now punching his computer screen.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
KPDK is lucky Dad didnt shoot him off on a napkin or towel
June 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Naw dogg ..it’s Ray…thought I’d change it up a little!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Kirk lol
June 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Your wife, he’s a troll, ok….period
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
BrownStains, a Troll is a Troll. You’re a Troll, ok?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
BrownStains, a Troll is a Troll. You’re a Troll, ok?
A very miserable troll. Gettin your food stamps troll?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Holy shiznit Ray……I can dig it doggie!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
The Luniz…
June 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
KK, you wouldn’t call me Brownstains to my face, right? You don’t have the minerals! We both know you would not, you know what would happen, right?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Man, I’m starting to feel sorry for that old goat Krappy and his soiled Bermuda shorts. It can’t feel good to get torched in a freakin’ football blog everyday.
Krap Krap, there’s this hot new band called The Scorpions who have this amazing jam called Winds of Change you need to listen to.
Hopefully it’ll inspire you to ditch the internet, move to Germany and get your wife’s bowl cut trimmed.
LIKE YOUNG MC USED TO DO
June 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
It’s around the corner …I could smell the Autumn wind!!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
KK, you wouldn’t call me Brownstains to my face, right?
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I’d put you in your place pretty quick, one way or another.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
KK, you wouldn’t call me Brownstains to my face, right?
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I’d put you in your place pretty quick, one way or another, BrownStains.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Yeah Ray cuz apts are cheap there I lightweight wanna live in vegas part time….plus I love the Bay Area but stuff changing up here and party scene here is lamer by the second. Also I can be within a shot of seeing my Dad who juust moved from compton to Gardena
June 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
KK, do you wanna knuckle up ?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Hey Ray i advise you to summon KPDK on some good real estate advice…..hell I may do the same
June 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
KK calls Brownstains a troll Brownstains still has deep seeded emotional issues from the verbal beatings he took from Oakglen years ago. Apparently the years of therapy didn’t seem to help him deal with his issues so he has resorted to seeking affirmation from me.
Sorry little man maybe you should try another form of therapy.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Mista u gonna give his old ass a heart attack
June 16th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
No, ima give him a knuckle sammich if he wants one.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Mista u gonna give his old ass a heart attack
June 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
“MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
KK, you wouldn’t call me Brownstains to my face, right?
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I’d put you in your place pretty quick, one way or another, BrownStains.”
LMAO at a chat fight!!!
Reminds me of the South Park episode “Cripple Fight”
June 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
BrownStains
Do I wanna knuckle up?
You dumb stupid emfkr, What am I supposed to do, meet some internet freak in the alley? lol.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Before KK could utter the words Brownsta-i-n-s he would hit the ground between i-n.
The end
June 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
So Im being serious here…..Mr. Kelly in your opinion what would the best areas for say a guy who is about 30 to move when planning to live in vegas. now mind you I still like to go out and Im not from a high tax bracket. Any suggestions?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
37.Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
KPDK……your black ass? You mean half black…..u prolly like Roddy Piper when he fought Bad News Brown at Wrestlemania VI
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lmao classic!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Thats what I thought KK, you would never in 100 years say it to my face.
Coward.
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
BrownStains
Do I wanna knuckle up?
You dumb stupid emfkr, What am I supposed to do, meet some internet freak in the alley? lol.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
OakGlen, this isn’t a chat fight Im just saying he wouldn’t say it to my face. Post #69 proves that. Even a numnut like you knows the difference between a chat fight and this, right?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I’ll put money on Mista…..over/under on how many punches it take is 2.5….any takers?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
His answer:
Switzerland
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
So Im being serious here…..Mr. Kelly in your opinion what would the best areas for say a guy who is about 30 to move when planning to live in vegas. now mind you I still like to go out and Im not from a high tax bracket. Any suggestions?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
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Brown v Krappy
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June 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I almost did that a couple of years ago. I was gonna kick the schit out of Bauce Fool (His name was Brien then)
I was going to leave my computer right then an meet him on the street. Punk couldn’t make it. (waiting for backup I suppose)
June 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Bauce….right now u could buy a 1400 sq ft home for about 60 G’s …no lie!
After losing my home over a year ago…I thinking about paying cash for one with those prices!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Mr.Kelly come on man
June 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
KK, if you had any balls and its pretty obvious you dont.
You would have at least called my bluff even though a coward like you would not knuckle up if your pitiful life depended on it. But to just tuck your tail in your vag like that was priceless.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Before KK could utter the words Brownsta-i-n-s he would hit the ground between i-n.
The end
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There’s two sides to every story, BrownStains.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Please let us all know where the retard fight is taking place I am sure we would all love to see that!
DING DING
Round one old goat Karppy kicks Brownstains in the sack only to find out he doesn’t have one….Brownstains takes off Krappys diaper then rubs his face in the excrement…..Krappy strikes back with his enema device which he uses to choke Brownstains…..fecal matter is everywhere and the drooling tards create a puddle of slobber old Browstains slips and falls in the puddle of drool……Round one goes to Krappy…..
June 16th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
This is what 3 years of hope & change produces…60k houses in Vegas…..wow @ the housing market…the worst since the great depression.
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From The Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Bauce….right now u could buy a 1400 sq ft home for about 60 G’s …no lie!
June 16th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
KPDK is a liar. I told him when I could be at 150th right by Ricky’s and the punk never showed. I even described what I would have on
June 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
KPDK wanted to meet within 20 minutes lol….I was not even in 510 so I could in now way get there that fast. I handled what I handled and came by and waited for a while. I walked from Shooters to Ricky’s…..no red corvette
June 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
KK, if you had any balls and its pretty obvious you dont.
You would have at least called my bluff even though a coward like you would not knuckle up if your pitiful life depended on it.
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I don’t have to call anybody’s bluff dumbass. I’m just being straight-up with you.
June 16th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
KK, when is the last time you threw down ?
June 16th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
I know you dont. I’m just saying if you did you wouldn’t look like such a cheese d!ck!
lol
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
I don’t have to call anybody’s bluff dumbass. I’m just being straight-up with you
June 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
DING DING round 2:
Old Brownstains covered in drool and fecal matter tries to wrestle Krappy and cops a feel…. the old goat hates getting his sack squeezed and screams in pain sounding like a wounded cat….Krappy bites Brownstains on the arm and realizes he actually tastes like diarrhea….brownstains has the look of horror on his face as he sees blood where Krappy bit him and cries to the onlookers for help and in an act of desperation Brownstains limp wristedly throws a rock at Krappy knocking him out but he is saved by the bell……
June 16th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Krappy, I’m telling you put Winds of Change by the Scorps on and turn your sad old life around.
Ditch the wife and her bowl cut, sell your Swiss Chalet and stop pretending to pick fights on an internet blog!
On second thought, ignore all that. Keep doing what you’re doing, old fool!
DOUBLE DUTCH DIGGITY
June 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Hey KPDK we can alwasy reschedule….I stay offfering that to ya. It would be easy to go on Island and wait for ya outside of Kane&Associates but u would call cops like a coward. Dont worry KPDK and i know who you are. I even have been right near ya but not even a low life like me would try and punk u in front of wifey. I even think she would put tips to ur face
June 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Try and give KK some advice on how not to look like a d-bag and he gets all attitudey about it.
lmao
June 16th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
666….u actually believe KPDK has teeth?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
KPDK last had a fight with his wife last summer when she put him in the head lock and did the Nolan Ryan to him. Before that was 1968
June 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Mista…KPDK aint fighting no one. As soon as you put your fists up he will do the Fred Sanford
June 16th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Bauce
Let me tell you something. I was born & raised in Oakland. Grew around big-time gansters. I aint no punk.
Now mfkr, You know where I work. You post it everyday. Your move.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Krappy I need an obedient, uneducated, dim witted fool to hire as my new House Boy. Obviously you’d be perfect.
Your only duties would be repainting my penthouse 4 or 5 times a year, serving my guests shrimp cocktails at my bi weekly Reggae Party Boat cruises and, of course, disinfecting the hot tub after 69 sessions.
This is your big chance to escape your sad life for a fresh new start. Don’t let it slip away!
June 16th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
DING DING round 3:
Krappy calls timeout because he is in the middle of a bowel movement and stench is gut wrenching and causes the onlookers to disperse…Krappy stands alone in a puddle of drool and fecal matter victorious he raises his arms in a V and shouts out the Raiders win loss record over the last 8 years 155 times “in a rain man kind of voice”….then the men in white suits come with a straight jacket to take our beloved Krappy away!
June 16th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Hahahaha Krappy is calling you out, Brian the Genital!!!
What are you going to do now? It’s “your move”!
Man, I’m turning up the Huey Lewis & The News for this one!
June 16th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
KK,
Ten mins ago you said you aint going to meet anybody from here to fight and now you are inviting Brian to your office so you can dial 911 the second he walks through the door?
LMAO
June 16th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
You Too BrownStains.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
You two dumbass’s look at my picture all day. You know what I look like……..stalking coward btchs.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
KK, where do you work I have no idea.
Oakland zoo ?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
KoolKell threw out the “your move” line, lol.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Lol Shemar Moore was born and raised in Oakland…whats your point? Gangstas? Guys who rob the mexican Ice Cream truck dude hardly counts as gangsta
June 16th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
You moron I looked at your pic one time that was like 6 or 9 months back. Your friggin wife almost ruined my cornea’s!
a$$wipe
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
You two dumbass’s look at my picture all day. You know what I look like……..stalking coward btchs.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Krappy were those tough Oakland gangsters you hung out with called the Warriors?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Thec07 Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Brown, what up homie? I would say JFORDS as a WR numbers should look like this;
up 40 receptions
up 750 total yards
up 7 in touch downs
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lmao at the last line of this statment
i know its warped, but i find a bit of humor in porn now and then
June 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
KPDK tell me a good time tomorrow to come up to Kane&Associates so you can call the cops on me lol
June 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Lol call him Jacoby Porn
June 16th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Bauce there is no doubt somebody invites anybody to their workplace to brawl unless their only intention is to call the cops….LMFAO @ KK
June 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Alameda cops sure protect their light skinned house n-ggas
June 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Couldn’t you two lovers just have a dance off at the local Skate Park?
“Your Move” … still laughing from that one …
June 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
KPDK tell me a good time tomorrow to come up to Kane&Associates so you can call the cops on me lol
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Oh, I’ll damn sure call the Cops……..after.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
ROFLMAO
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KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Oh, I’ll damn sure call the Cops……..after.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
KK, its your movement.
lmfao
June 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
[...] Jackson in their uniforms. All players have issued statements similar to that of Ford. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
June 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
KPDk your number still the same on website? If so I can call you now and and we can sure set it up buddy…..or if phone scares ya hit me up bauce_2010@yahoo……its legit other bloggers can tell ya so
June 16th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
KoolKell threw out the “your move” line, lol.
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I try to stick to the facts when I post here, or else, why bother?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
after … your belt breaks on the first punch and your pants fall down to your ankles?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Beecher? Dance off? Come on KPDK will do the Charleston like its the roaring 20s….singing “Hello my baby Hello my darling Hello my ragtime girrrrrrllllll”
June 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Ali Shuffle is more like it.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Did Ali wear Depends when he fought Frazier?
Brian the Genital just call the old goat up and settle this thing once and for all.
Oh yeah and post the transcript on the blog for my ladies to read.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Movement? Mista, you mean that Moonwalk dancing movement KPDK’s turd does down his left leg?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Ali shuffle? lol you mean Ali stumble like he did vs Trevor Berbick
June 16th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
KPDK you dont stick to facts…. Tim Brown you said never was on a winning team until Rice came……lie. You also said naacp was staryed by black people….lie #2…..shall I continue?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Started*
June 16th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Oh yeah remember 09 when KPDK THOUGHT PedoChet called his phone? He went to cops then lol
June 16th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
KPDK you the light skin Tom ass n-gga in a suit from Boondocks but you are on one accord with Uncle Ruckus
June 16th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
People would always tell me he was “absorbing” the double-team, which was his job.
Well there is a difference between “absorbing” two defenders, and allowing two guys to shove you wherever they wanted to all game.
………….
That might be the single dumbest thing anyone’s ever had the gall to type here.
The whole point of drawing a double team is to tie up an offensive linemen that they could otherwise use to pick up a blitz. If there are no D linemen that draw double teams, that frees up the running backs to act as receivers on more plays, instead of blocking. If a D linemen is drawing two linemen, the RB in most cases has to block on passing downs. It doesn’t matter if the double team is preventing that D lineman from penetrating, or if they’re “pushing him around”, it’s still a loss because they have to use 2 linemen when ideally on passing downs they’d like to use 1. Just dumb.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
KPDK we all are laughing at ya bruh lol
June 16th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Brien, this sounds more like Uncle Ruckus than any words that Kell’s ever typed here:
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation
June 16th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Sign me down for the Aryan Nation and praise white Jesus.
Brien, you and Uncle Ruckus are one.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Anyhow everyone have a nice day…gotta jet
June 16th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Lol MR……ZEIG HEIL! That make u feel better?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
last?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Ch-chalkin up the DUECES!Outro
June 16th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Anyhow everyone have a nice day…gotta jet
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LOL. Can you believe this guy? He’s calling someone out to fight just a few minutes ago. Now it’s “have a nice day, everyone”
bri-polar?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
That little high school girl wants to be sooo popular?
June 16th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I don’t think Al would by bothered by the pull-quote: “Everyone in the league knows what our game plan is”
As we’ve all seen, when well executed, man coverage can’t be beat. It doesn’t matter whether or not they know it’s going to be used.
It was Al who said, “Don’t take what they give you, take what you want.”
June 16th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Such a wannabe.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Yeah but it’s probably in that crappy area around UNLV
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From The Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Bauce….right now u could buy a 1400 sq ft home for about 60 G’s …no lie!
June 16th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Krappy you’re still a big wimp, but at least you tried to challenge a blogger to a fight.
It’s a start, old goat!
June 16th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Ransom,
As John Madden says, there’s no defense for a perfectly thrown football. That being said, Green Bay, Indy, N.E., still have entire playbooks worth of passing plays designed to get their receivers separation, despite having great QBs. The best teams in football do whatever it takes to win, and make adjustments whenever they have to. The fact that man defense is unbeatable if executed properly is no excuse to continue to use it even when you know zone would have given you a better chance of winning.
June 16th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
IMO our DB’s played well last season. All except for tyvon branch
our DB’s are good….so everyone needs to get over it.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
If you like sports and CAN READ
, then you should read the book moneyball. The movie is going to be quite interesting. Billy Beane may not have a job when the movie comes out….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAHlZVgXjk
June 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Ball Four by Jim Bouton was a good read.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I agree R8dercain they played well TB just doesn’t cover well at all. On the other hand Mm34 cover very well that’s why i’s like to see MM@SS and TB@FS.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Looking forward to Moneyball, AIG. What a great cast, with Pitt and Jonah Hill (Super Bad). It seems to have all the makings of one of those good stories with good acting surrounding around some type of modern day corporate bully, a la “Thank You for Smoking”. Aaron Sorkin, who created the West Wing and wrote The Social Network, also contributed to the screen play. For measure, he also penned A Few Good Mean and The American President. This film just can’t go wrong. I’m seeing it as soon as it comes out.
That being said, I really don’t understand the sinister angle of the story. How is what Beane did so different from what several good sports teams have accomplished over the years? Seems building good teams on the cheap is nothing new. A philosophy of getting players on base as opposed to signing/retaining sluggers? Nothing new. That’s what “BillyBall” was. And, no surprise, Billy Martin brought that philosophy to Oakland years ago before Beane was heard of.
I just never really understood what everyone’s beef with Beane is. But this movie looks great. Can’t wait for it.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Mr.
You should read MoneyBall, if you havent already. It’ll really open your eyes up to what they are talking about. A hilarious read as well. The only problem is Billy Beane is taking a beating right now. Hopefully they can spin the story a little different since we all know the real life ending already. They can do a job like they did with Apollo 13. Pretty solid cast for the movie.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Man, there is nothing like shrimp quesadillas, margaritas and a little Sister Christian on the boom box while my ladies play Battleship.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
TB, in my opinion, has bulked up too much over the last 2 years.
Branch was much thinner and appeared to have better fluidity when he first joined the Raids.
The added bulk has improved his hitting ability and probably helped his durability, but it’s come at a cost to his cover ability.
Could be Tyvon just got thicker as a result of age and body maturation, but I think he’s spent too much time in the weight room and maybe used some chemical help.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Art Howe? WTF! I didn’t even know PSH was that old. I mean this is gay Scottie from Boogie Nights. He’s a great actor, too (See Charlie Wilson’s War, if you haven’t. He’s better than both Hanks and Julia Roberts). This movie’s going to be a winner.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Of course, the only downside I can see at IMDB.com is that most of the movie is filmed in Los Angeles while set in Oakland, except the Oakland coliseum shots. I hate that. Have you seen Coach Carter? Set in Richmond, obviously, but the entire movie was filmed in Long Beach. Just wrong. That had to have pissed off bri-polar. lol
June 16th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Cain, naw you’d be surprised …around Tropical and Decatur near Aliante.
Nothing but white people live in that area….just saying ….
June 16th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Hoffman as Howe is a bit tough for me. Hoffman is a great actor but not buying it as Howe.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Hoffman can play anyone. He’s one of the best actors ever. Have you seen Charlie Wilson’s War? I didn’t even know it was him until after I saw it the first time. He could play Howe.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Yup seen Charlie Wilson. Good movie. Military channel had some great story on Charlie Wilson as well.
Howe was a fit and big guy. Hoffman is kinda wimpy physically. That’s what I’m having trouble with.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
You’ve seen Hoffman in Charlie Wilson’s war, and you still think he can only play wimpy characters? His portrayal of Gust Avracado wasn’t exactly that of a well built guy, but he looked husky and like he could kick some ass.
June 16th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
He smashed that office window up pretty good. That’s Art Howe. lol
June 16th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
“ponzi schoolboy f###k. A water goes over a dam ,not under it!”
lol. He was great.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Hoffman is a fantastic actor but asking him to play Howe is not a physical fit. Howe was a big man imo and hoffman is not that big of a guy.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Is the Movie Moneyball still a viable project, Billy Beane has been a complete failure, no?
Have the A’s done anything since the last GM who won Championships? (I forget his name)
June 16th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Man, Krappy you really got roasted today. More so than your regular daily roastings/beat downs.
Hilarious, no?
June 16th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
147.aig-raiders Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
If you like sports and CAN READ , then you should read the book moneyball. The movie is going to be quite interesting. Billy Beane may not have a job when the movie comes out….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAHlZVgXjk
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Meh….it’ll be interesting to see how true to the book it is. I know they working on fluffing up the script Jerry McGuire style for awhile to make it a more fun film with some emotion.
Hope Beane can turn things around in Oakland, because if they end up in last this year. He may not be back as GM.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Dumb Beech,
I’ve got 8-10 Trolls just standing in line
And, aint a day pass
I don’t kick 4-5 of ‘em
In their no good azz.
Including you, ok?
June 16th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
THIS LOCKOUT REALLY SUCKS I HATE NO FOOTBALL! JUST BASEBALL AND MY TEAM SUCKS AS WELL
June 16th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
You know what else is hilarious, Krappy pretended to be at the office today when he challenged Brian the Genital to a fight!
Why would he be at the office when he has ZERO listings? Awesome!
June 16th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Why the fat slob kid from SuperBad in Moneyball??
Ugh
June 16th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
So, they make a movie about the Raiders. Who plays Al?
Modern day Al: Leonard Nimoy
Young Al: Paul Ruebens
June 16th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
But if Al wasn’t such an az z hole, I’d say:
Modern day Al: Harry Dean Stanton
Young Al: Vince Vaughn
June 16th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
I don’t know, Raider. Al Davis would be a tough guy to cast:
http://joemontanasrightarm.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/al-davis.jpg
June 16th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
171.RAIDER Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
So, they make a movie about the Raiders. Who plays Al?
Modern day Al: Leonard Nimoy
Young Al: Paul Ruebens
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Dracula himself, Christopher Lee or the guy who played the Emperor in the Star Wars films would be great choices as old Al.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Scorsese makes a movie about the rise and fall of the Raidahs? Fuggetaboutit.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Burgess Meridith as Al Davis. That would be perfect.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
And don’t even think about asking Pesci to play Herrera. Pesci only plays real gangsters.
June 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Phillip Seymour Hoffman plays Herrera.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
SPEAKING OF BASEBALL BILLY BEANE NEEDS TO BRING SOME HITTERS IN AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE MONEY HE IS NOT SPENDING
June 16th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
The GOP’s Favorite Hate-Monger: How the Republican Party Came to Embrace Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Preacher.
Hitler recruited around him homosexuals to make up his stormtroopers, they were his enforces, they were his thugs, and Hitler discovered that he could not get straight soldiers to be savage, and brutal, and vicious enough to carryout his orders, but that homosexual soldiers basically had no limits in the savagery and brutality they were willing to inflict on whoever Hitler sent them after. So he surrounded himself, virtually all of the stormtroopers, the brownshirts, were male homosexuals.
http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/the-gop-s-favorite-hate-monger-how-the-republican-party-came-to-embrace-bryan-fischer
June 16th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
A movie about the Raiders aka Al Davis would be quite interesting…especially the 60’s and 70’s with all those colorful characters. Not sure who can play the young and old Al though. Dude is not looking too good nowadays.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
JFB, Alburqurqe sentiments, yes?
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Fischer insists that Native Americans deserved to be killed and forced out of their lands during American expansion because they didn’t all convert to Christianity. Angered that the memorial service for those killed in the mass shooting in Tucson included a Native American prayer, Fischer charged that since Native Americans were “steeped in the basest forms of superstition, had been guilty of savagery in warfare for hundreds of years, and practiced the most debased forms of sexuality,” they were punished by God. Until Native Americans convert to Christianity, Fischer said, they cannot be considered full-fledged American citizens.
He went on to say that the divine punishment lasts to this day, as Native Americans “remain mired in poverty and alcoholism because many native Americans continue to cling to the darkness of indigenous superstition instead of coming into the light of Christianity and assimilating into Christian culture.” Fischer said that America itself may soon receive the same punishment from God:
http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/the-gop-s-favorite-hate-monger-how-the-republican-party-came-to-embrace-bryan-fischer
June 16th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
how frickin cool is this….dude must be stoked….per pft.
Shemar Woods of the Washington Post notes that London Fletcher asked a small group of fans watching their workout Thursday if they were ready to suit up. Only one of them, 28-year-old Josh Richards, was prepared for the moment.
Richards put on his cleats and participated in the team’s individual drills. Richards assisted the players setting up cones, and jumped into an interception drill, dropping only one pass on the first go-around.
He said he played high school football and his favorite team was the Redskins, so the workout was a huge thrill.
“The terminology is crazy,” Richards said. “I told them I would be ready if they needed me.”
June 16th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
KoolKell, the government policy during colonial times was to enrich the power elite. The government policy today is to enrich the power elite. What is your point?
June 16th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
My point is that the GOP is racist and un-American. What’s your’s?
June 16th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
That government is always about the powerful enriching themselves at the expense of the productive.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
You’re a Free market guy aren’t ya?
June 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Yes, I would rather live among free productive people than in a society ruled by bureacrats. It took me awhile because I couldn’t remember how to spell “bureacrat”.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Twocents Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Yes, I would rather live among free productive people than in a society ruled by bureacrats. It took me awhile because I couldn’t remember how to spell “bureacrat”.
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What does that mean exactly, that’s very general.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
KoolKell, think about a centrally planned economy. Think about the Soviet Union.
June 16th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
What about it?
June 16th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Well then think about something simple, like making that old yellow pencil that we all used in the old days. It took an incredible amount of integration to bring it to the market place. You could not make one.
There is no one in the government that could make one.
It takes a free market to supply what the consumer wants. In a free market the consumer is sovereign.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
We’ve got pencils and pens now, so what?
Twocents, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Just wild barbershop conspiracies.
Go smoke some more dope.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
If twocents ever has a heart attack, I sincerely hope he has just enough energy to tell responding fire fighters he’d rather be surrounded by free, productive people than bureaucrats like them.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell, I know it is hopeless to try to change your beliefs. All my friends think exactly like you do. If I could make just one progressive see the light, my life would be complete.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
We get it, two cents. Anyone who doesn’t either innovate a product, or trade on the backs of those who do, is an idiot that couldn’t make a pencil. Got to admit, though, those idiots who stormed the beach at Normandy were men’s men. I respect them.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Twocents, can you point to a successful society in history without some form of govt?
June 16th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
That’s it, TwoCents. Everyone is just so stupid, while you’re smart. So original.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Every nut job out there spends their entire life wishing they could get just one person to “see the light”. lol. Don’t hold your breath, TwoCents. Most people like the idea of calling 911 in an emergency, and using paved roads to get to work. All the best.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I’d also have to concede that one astounding achievement by TwoCent’s free, productive people is Jersey Shore.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Raider, I can’t even understand what point you are making. Please forgive me.
KoolKell, has there ever been a successful society with government?
June 16th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Twocents, when history and everybody else disagrees with you, that’s a clue.
June 16th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
FROM THE PREVIOUS ARTICLE:
“Ryan challenged Routt with a 2009 game against Philadelphia when the Raiders blitzed Donovan McNabb heavily and backed it with more zone than usual.”
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What a dumb a-zz. IF he’d done his home work he’d have known the Eagles were missing 3 out of 5 starters on the O line that day and THEN lost their starting Left Tackle!!!
King Dunlop filled in experiencing his first NFL start EVER lined up across from RICHARD SEYMOUR.
So yeah, maybe Oakland altered their D a little that day…. Hello!
June 16th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
KoolKell, has there ever been a successful society with government?
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That’s a dodge, not an answer. Now is there any depth to your thinking, or are you just parroting?
June 16th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
KoolKell, history is on my side. And who is everybody else, are you claiming that you speak for “everbody else”?
June 16th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
No just quoting you “All my friends think exactly like you do.”
Quote the damned history on your side, because, I’m not hearing anything but……..whack nonsense, pardon the expression.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Twocents, can you point to a successful society in history without some form of govt?
Yes: quote
No:
I don’t have all night.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
207. Uh, Lord of the Flies?
June 16th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
KoolKell, your argument is that all societies in history have had a ruling class. I agree. But were they successful? They all came to an end. The empires crumbled.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Twocents, when history and everybody else disagrees with you, that’s a clue.
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“Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds.” -Albert Einstein
June 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Twocents Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
KoolKell, your argument is that all societies in history have had a ruling class.
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That’s not what I said, I said govt, as you well know.
Right now you’re all Hat and no Cattle.
Think about it, and come back another day/Out.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
KoolKell, what is government but a ruling class? Please explain the difference.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
KoolKell, “all Hat and no Cattle” just what the hell does that mean. Even if I had cattle you would seize them for your own benefit.
June 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
KoolKell, I’m sure you will also take my hat.
June 16th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
213.Twocents Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
KoolKell, “all Hat and no Cattle” just what the hell does that mean. Even if I had cattle you would seize them for your own benefit.
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Wha’dat dun deer means isa man who drive a big ole fancy car, lik’a caddylack, so peoples think he got himself some money, but the po’old basterd aint got no dime in da bank.
Ahuh you kno, a man be all sizzle but he no damn stake.
June 16th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
“Wha’dat dun deer means isa man who drive a big ole fancy car, lik’a caddylack, so peoples think he got himself some money, but the po’old basterd aint got no dime in da bank.
Ahuh you kno, a man be all sizzle but he no damn stake.”
Let’s hope Hue Jackson doesn’t read this blog. One more reason he’ll have one foot out the door midway through this season. He’s too much like a black guy from Notre Dame.
June 16th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Kell went to Notre Dame?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Ah, the diversity of the Raider fan base:
“Wha’dat dun deer means isa man who drive a big ole fancy car, lik’a caddylack, so peoples think he got himself some money, but the po’old basterd aint got no dime in da bank.
Ahuh you kno, a man be all sizzle but he no damn stake.”
June 17th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Routt’s statement is a testament to the clout of Profootballtalk.com, because it was issued within a couple of hours after PFT linked to an item in this blog
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Why? Seems like it could be a testament to your blog Jerry. We know Al reads it.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:47 am
[...] He then released this statement as found on InsideBayArea.com: [...]
June 17th, 2011 at 6:23 am
So there is a new list of the top 50 highest earning American athletes.
1,2,3 was Tiger, Phil Mickelson and Lebron.
Interesting that Matt Ryan was #7, ahead of Jeter, Tom Brady, Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade and plenty of others.
I didn’t know Matty Ice was doing so many commercials.
June 17th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Good Morning Nation!
Happy Aloha Friday!
June 17th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Good Morning Hwnrdr!
June 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SURE HOPE WE HAVE SOME OTA’S & TRAINING CAMP 2 TALK ABOUT SOON.
June 17th, 2011 at 6:45 am
I second that thought Dirt-lot.
There is a sports void right now. Baseball sux and if football doesn’t come back soon, there won’t be anything worth watching anymore.
June 17th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Baseball is awesome.
My favorite sport, but I know I am one of the few.
Anyone know how these internet TV’s work? Getting a new house, and going to upgrade the TV, and we are looking at these internet TV things.
My first thought was, can I watch Raiders preseason games on it, instead of on my PC?
June 17th, 2011 at 6:56 am
The question is if you can access any of the bootleg internet TV sites anymore. Homeland Security is shutting them all down.
June 17th, 2011 at 6:58 am
I live maybe 10 minutes from a MLB park and I still can’t get excited to go see baseball. Hockey is fantastic live, but both hockey and baseball are boring on TV.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Baseball is a whole different animal than football.
When I watch a football game, I drink heavily, rarely sit and pace around the house.
With baseball, you can have it on in the background, get some work done, and I don’t start drinking heavily and pacing until around September.
I enjoy the pace and strategy that goes into baseball. Every pitch there is a million variables.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Homeland Security is shutting them all down.
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HATERS!!!!
You know, when you spend $350 a year on the Sunday Ticket, you would think they would throw you a bone or two and at least broadcast a few preseason games, and maybe I could squeeze out one or two Raider games out of it.
Could I at least access a frkn AM radio station and listen to Papa and Flores or is that getting thrown out with the bath water as well?
June 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am
I agree I like hockey live but on TV it is kind of lame.
This Tiger Woods injury is killing me….I am a huge Tiger Woods fan and this weekend I should have been watching him in the US Open.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
I’ll watch Sunday golf, but Thursday-Friday golf????
Not unless it is the British Open and it is on at 5am, when I am up and nothing else is on.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:14 am
So until last year, we hadn’t had a decent DE on the roster since Johnstone but you can’t seem to admit that the other team would recognize that exact same weakness??????
Some of us have been saying for years that we get gouged most of the time on a run that was to the edge. I am still waiting on an explanation as to how it is the DTs job to stop edge runs and cutbacks off the DE.
Also want to know why a missed assignment by the DT turns into a 40 yd gain instead of an 8 yd gain or so?
It’s RIDICULOUS to say a 40 yd run is solely on the DT.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:19 am
JFB,
I think you can buy the local channels package and get the LA stations. Probably just need it for one month. $10 for preseason games isn’t a bad deal if they have that option.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:22 am
I bought this Fox Sports package thing from Direct TV and the only games I get are Diamondbacks and Rangers games.
Everything else is still blacked out. It is $15 a month and I am about to cancel it.
If they could guarantee me that I will get every preseason game in HD, I would pay $10 a game, at least.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Also want to know why a missed assignment by the DT turns into a 40 yd gain instead of an 8 yd gain or so?
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We are on the same page here.
Look at that backup RB 70 yard TD in the Jax game. Seymour damn near blew it up in the backfield, the guy was running nowhere, and Moss and Routt just let him escape the sideline, than our safety whiffed, and voila a 70 yard TD.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:27 am
I can understand the way some of you feel about Al Davis and staying on the sidelines until their is a change. I may not agree, but I get it.
The effin Dodgers ownership situation has me to the point where I haven’t been to the stadium in 3 years. I am literally embarrassed by the McCourt drama and subsequent chaos that has us struggling to meet payroll. The elfin LOS ANGELES DODGERS??????
Unbelievable!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Not the sports package local channels, the 2, 4, 7, 9, 11, and 13’s. ABC, KCOP, KCAL’s.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:31 am
GOOOOO LAKERS!
June 17th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Yeah that Dodger thing has gotten out of hand…I haven’t been following too closely so I don’t know how messy is messy in terms to that ugly divorce! But yeah…The Dodgers…unreal!
June 17th, 2011 at 7:32 am
local channels, the 2, 4, 7, 9, 11, and 13’s. ABC, KCOP, KCAL’s.
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You can purchase just those?
Never heard of it.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:32 am
I guess a run stuffing DT wouldn’t have almost done anything. He would’ve made the play and not expected his teammates to do a thing.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Lots of good young talent on the Dodgers (as usual, great scouting for 50 years with them) but it will all go to waste as McCourt ruins it all.
How do you struggle to meet payroll with a baseball team that draws 25K at least every game, and 45K on the weekends. And with an average sized payroll!!!
Too funny.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:35 am
It takes 11 to stop the run…..but to claim a run stuffing NT is not necessary to have a good run D, well, I guess you and Al can agree on that and then scratch your heads as to why the last time the Raiders had a good run D was when Parella and Adams were manning the tackle spots….not rocket science here boys.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I THINK u can purchase those channels. If you have them on ur guide greyed out, you should be able to buy them. 397 is ABC West.
Use ur mouthpiece man. U should be able to talk a simple DirecTV CSR into whatever u want.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Is it also not rocket science that the last time we had a good run D is also when we last time we had an elite offense.
We had the 3rd fewest rushing attempts against us that year. And in 2000, we were just as good with no Parella or Sam Adams.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:45 am
U should be able to talk a simple DirecTV CSR into whatever u want.
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You don’t know how many times I have tried to call and simply get fox Bay Area, station 696.
I ordered the Fox sports package in hoops season, blacked out. Tried again in baseball, blacked out. Told them I will pay $25 a month for one station, no dice.
You would think it would be that easy, but I can’t get anywhere with it.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
I agree with Dakota it starts at the LOS.
A good NT can clog the middle of the field and force the RB to change the course of the play.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Who’s scratching their heads?
It’s plain as day to me why we allow a 5 yd run turn into a 70 yd play. Why don’t you be a bit more to the point and tell us how the specific example JFB doesn’t turn into a 70 yd run if Henderson is on the field instead of Seymour?
The RB was forced to the sideline!!!!!!
Remember Cable challenging ifnhe stepped out of bounds?
June 17th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Of course a premier run-stuffer at DT will help, that isn’t the debate.
But was our run D any better with Henderson playing or not? He played in the Jax game, Tenn game and Miami game.
Those might have been our 3 worst games against the run all year.
June 17th, 2011 at 7:53 am
So what happens when teams come out and pass on first and 2nd down because we have zero pass rush with fat guy on the field? Where is the beast pass rusher at DE we need to go with this NT?
Seymour Kelly Henderson ShoNasty = worst pass defense in the league
June 17th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I agree with Dakota it starts at the LOS.
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It starts there, but doesn’t end there.
If our OLB’s and DB’s could clean up some of there mess, we wouldn’t have had so many 50+ yard runs.
It’s not like there were gaping holes in our run D all year and we were bleed to death with 12 yard runs all year.
It was the 12-15 yard runs that turned into 50 yard TD’s that killed us, and that isn’t on Seymour, Henderson and TK entirely to prevent those.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:14 am
JFB
I know that we need to be effective on all levels D line LB’s and the secondary. But I am sure you would agree with me that you would like our leading tackler to be a DT not a safety.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Not sure of any DT’s being your leading tackler.
You want it to be your MLB ideally.
But yes, you don’t want it to be the safety.
I am positive McClain will be our leading tackler this year, with around 120 or so.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:17 am
I miss wrote that sorry….What I meant was you would rather the LB’s and D line made more tackles on running plays than our Safeties.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am
One specific play makes your case? I think not.
JFB
Those were good stats about 2002 though.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:32 am
NTs that can make a difference do not grow on trees, but I will continue to hope for one and watch with sadness as our run D remains bottom 1/3rd in the NFL.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:35 am
It would be different if we were talking about adding an elite-level NT, like a sure-fire HOF like Vince Wilfork.
But really, replacing TK with Kelly Gregg, or B.J. Raji or someone of that level, what difference will it really make? I’m sure some, but it is not like we will be a top 10 rushing defense because of it.
If we added Ray Lewis (a HOF like Wilfork) as a replacement over Kirk Morrison would have done just as much as an elite NT, if not way more, IMO.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:38 am
If we added Ray Lewis (a HOF like Wilfork) as a replacement over Kirk Morrison would have done just as much as an elite NT, if not way more, IMO.
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I don’t think so….Ray Lewis would be the first to admit that he depends on the big uglies occupying multiple blockers to do his thing….in Oakland he would not have that protection on run plays.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Ray Lewis may depend on his big uglies, but they have rotated in like 7 of them during his career.
It’s not like they were the 7 best NT’s in football.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Kelly Gregg has started almost 100 games at NT for the Ravens since Ray was there. (He is their NT, not Ngata)
Does Kelly Gregg overhaul our Run defense?
June 17th, 2011 at 8:48 am
261.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Kelly Gregg has started almost 100 games at NT for the Ravens since Ray was there. (He is their NT, not Ngata)
Does Kelly Gregg overhaul our Run defense?
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If he forces the G and C to both commit to him on run plays then yes, he does. McClain would look like a completely different player, and the DEs would have more opportunities to make plays.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Well, we will have to agree to disagree than.
I think Gregg would definately help our run D, but wouldn’t come close to overhauling it.
You just need elite players all across the front 7 to be a great run D, IMO.
A fat, fringe Pro Bowl level guy won’t do squat if Kirk Morrison is your MLB, or your OLB is some guy like Jarvis Moss who you just picked up off the street.
June 17th, 2011 at 8:52 am
246.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Is it also not rocket science that the last time we had a good run D is also when we last time we had an elite offense.
We had the 3rd fewest rushing attempts against us that year. And in 2000, we were just as good with no Parella or Sam Adams.
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PS the more telling stat is the yards per carry against us in 2002….it was 3.8….tied for thrid best in the NFL….that may have had something to do with the attempts against us as well.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Our D is not good enough to win a title…we lack a special pass rushing DE, an adequate WLB and a real starter at NT. When we get those two things holla at ya Bauce
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BAUCE,
Our defense is absolutely good enough to win the title.
the talent is there. Can they stay motivated? How’s the coaching from Chuck B, Greg Biekert & Rod Woodson in 2011? Do we have adequate depth? Can we stay healthy or at least have backups that fill in for starters admirably?
Still a lot of questions, but still plenty of time to find answers …
I disagree with you that we don’t have a nose tackle (John Henderson), starter quality WLB (Q Groves) and pass rusher (Kam Wimbley)
the problem with the defense last year was consistancy, both in pass coverage & run defense.
Can’t take plays off. Gonna be disciplined. No more stupid penalties. No more big plays allowed due to confusion or miscommunication
June 17th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Kelly Gregg has started almost 100 games at NT for the Ravens since Ray was there. (He is their NT, not Ngata)
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excellent point. KG is one of the most underrated players in the NFL
Casey Hampton is too, but at least he’s received the franchise tag before and 5 Pro Bowls
I still think we should go after Albert Haynesworth & Jamal Williams in free agency, if the price is right
June 17th, 2011 at 9:15 am
If we added Ray Lewis as a replacement over Kirk Morrison would have done just as much as an elite NT, if not way more
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Ray would have complained about the scheme in Oakland or lack of a NT (like he did in Baltimore)
Capt Kirk is a professional and lifelong Raider fan. He wouldn’t dare do either of those things, but then maybe you challenge his leadership ability
June 17th, 2011 at 9:18 am
I don’t see Ray Lewis looking like the best MLB in football behind guys like Terdell Sands, Gerard Warren or Tommy Kelly … sorry
Maybe those scrubs play better with a LEADER like Ray Lewis in the locker room and on the field barking out orders, but I still don’t think he’d be a HOF candidate if we drafted him instead of Baltimore
June 17th, 2011 at 9:23 am
It starts there, but doesn’t end there.
If our OLB’s and DB’s could clean up some of there mess, we wouldn’t have had so many 50+ yard runs.
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TRUTH.
Travis Goethel is going to push for some playing time this year. I don’t know if he’ll unseat Groves as a starter, but he’ll be on the field a lot in relief of all 3 players at LB imo
Mitchell & CJ37 replace #24 & #21 as starters with guys like DVD, Chekwa, McFadden, Ware, Brown & Eugene as depth in the secondary
The main thing though is guys buying into the coaching and staying hungry & motivated. The team that wants it the most and works the hardest usually gets it
June 17th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I agree RR its not so much schemes and game plan as it is execution, hunger and a deep seeded desire to beat your man on every down.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I still think our record in 2011 will be reflective upon our ability to pass the football.
That doesn’t just mean McFadden, Bush, Reece & Zmiller either.
If Jason Campbell stays healthy and starts all 16 games thats a positive. I don’t see Kyle Boller or some crappy FA guy like Edwards, Leinart or Quinn (if Grads & Frye aren’t retained) playing better than JCamp …
Serious question marks at WR.
Serious question marks at OL.
We need at least 3500 yards & 20 TD’s from Campbell. We need a completion percentage above 60 and a QB Rating above 85
44 sacks allowed from the O-Line (and others) is not acceptable. that number has to go down
June 17th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Silver,
basically when it comes to stopping the run … you just have to hope that Chuck B, Biekert & Woodson can coach up the same group of guys that Marshall, Haluchak & Washington did and get better results
June 17th, 2011 at 9:44 am
RR
I agree because I don’t see us signing any new players (FA) on that side of the ball.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:45 am
You guys still arguing about DT’s?…..lol
Gawd!! enough already!!
You need as many great players as you can get to argue otherwise is silly. That includes DT’s but you have to be gap responsible and tackle. No one is against great DT’s not that I’ve noticed they’re only saying that is not ALL YOU NEED.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Jhill=super duper pooper scooper trooper yawwwwwnnnnnnnn. Still will never get it
June 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Jhill still doesnt know what the hell he is talking about. Tenn ,Jax and Miami games? How many of those bi runs happened with big John on field? Ricky Williams big TD RUN HAAPPENED WHEN GAME WAS ALREADY OVER……NEXT!
June 17th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Jax game? Boy you werent watching how garabge Kelly and Seymour were that day! Big John had a damn good game and was motivated cuz it was his former team. Hendu was in on the stops we would even have in that game!
June 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Good morning Bauce I don’t know about you but that chat fight yesterday between Brownstains and The old goat KK was funny.
It was like watching two turds in a toilet bowl clinging to the rim.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Bauce they don’t vote garbage to the probowl youngblood. If you only knew what other teams thought of our Dline it would shock you. TK led the league in sacks for a DT and was never dominated by anyone all year long but he dominated several G’s and C’s and Seymour speaks for himself he was voted #66 in the top 100 players of this league.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:03 am
231.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 7:06 am
I agree I like hockey live but on TV it is kind of lame.
This Tiger Woods injury is killing me….I am a huge Tiger Woods fan and this weekend I should have been watching him in the US Open.
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Tigger is done and I’m glad. He had his run and now karma is biting him in the arse!
June 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Rockstar: Hope you have a Happy Fathers Day this Sunday! Enjoy bro!
To all, since I don’t know if you are or not…Happy Father’s Day! Enjoy the weekend! Go Raiders!
June 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
225.guest123 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 6:45 am
I second that thought Dirt-lot.
There is a sports void right now. Baseball sux and if football doesn’t come back soon, there won’t be anything worth watching anymore.
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What about the lingerie football league? hahaha
June 17th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Tiger is not done and what are talking about Karma. what he did was between he and his wife. Your just jealous because he can have any woman he wants. I suppose you hate Hue Heffner as well?
June 17th, 2011 at 10:09 am
The key to the Raiders playing any better than last year is going to be the O-Lines pass protection and run stopping on D and the passing game improving.
The running game should still be fine.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
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What about the lingerie football league? hahaha
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Won’t fly too well with the wifey.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
“What about the lingerie football league?”
And the playoffs would be held at the Playboy Mansion!
June 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Who said our defense is good enough to win a SB? omg…
June 17th, 2011 at 10:35 am
286.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
“What about the lingerie football league?”
And the playoffs would be held at the Playboy Mansion!
NICE! In my best Mike Tyson from The Hangover voice!
June 17th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Tyson loves mansion parties. Puts him in a state of bolivia.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Priesttj Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Bauce they don’t vote garbage to the probowl youngblood. If you only knew what other teams thought of our Dline it would shock you. TK led the league in sacks for a DT and was never dominated by anyone all year long but he dominated several G’s and C’s and Seymour speaks for himself he was voted #66 in the top 100 players of this league.
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Please stop it…Seymour made pro bowl due to pass rushing not being a NT for real. BHP you my dawg and all but you are way off here. And cold part is you KNOW better
TK didnt dominate shhhht vs the run…..thats flat out false. He has and never will be a force s the run. Yeah as I said along he can pass rush pretty decent but thats it. TK didnt deserve a pro bowl last year nor did Seymour
June 17th, 2011 at 10:43 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Who said our defense is good enough to win a SB? omg…
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Someone who smokes more than me
June 17th, 2011 at 10:45 am
DKnight007 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:09 am
The key to the Raiders playing any better than last year is going to be the O-Lines pass protection and run stopping on D and the passing game improving.
The running game should still be fine.
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Yes oline must pass protect better and the run D cant be as garbage as it has been….but dont assume the running game will just pickup where it left off. WE got good trio of backs but we have uncertainty on the oline. Veldheer is in 2nd season,Wiz and Barksdale are rooks…..and who will be the effective pulling guards for us? Will those guards be able to handle being in a power scheme?
June 17th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Al Davis has never built for defense, like the Ravens, or like Tampa under Jim McKay, Dungy, etc. Not only that, he is clueless as to effective defensive schemes for today. Raiders’ defense, without an outstanding offense, is about good enough to go 5-11.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:49 am
So LeSean McCoy RB of NYJ called out Osi Umenyiora and called him overrated and soft? I’m sure Osi would love to smack that fool on the field….I got a great idea for when that cant happen……Sept 25th at the Oakland Coliseum…..come on Al you know you wanna acquire a big time talent to come off the edge vs the Left Tackle
June 17th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Patiently waiting for a chat fight…….
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Al Davis has never built for defense, like the Ravens, or like Tampa under Jim McKay, Dungy, etc. Not only that, he is clueless as to effective defensive schemes for today. Raiders’ defense, without an outstanding offense, is about good enough to go 5-11.
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No he is not clueless….the OG is stubborn is all. He knows football in and out but only wants to do it his way
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
WHat??? We don’t use a noseguard in our scheme. Seymour is the closest you get to a nose.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Patiently waiting for a chat fight…….
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you mean the Bauce just wreckin people to no avail? LOL
June 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
WHat??? We don’t use a noseguard in our scheme. Seymour is the closest you get to a nose.
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Nonsense…….our best run stuffer is John Henderson….where exactly have you been the last year or as a matter of fact the last decade?
Yes we do use a NT in our scheme….where did you get that nonsense? BHP is wrong if you listening to him on that
June 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
In order to be more successful we need better o-line play and you have to stop the big run. I think we are heading in the rright direction with our offense. Better WR play and they have to stay healthy.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:55 am
You actually telling me Haynesworth isnt a NT? Pat Williams in Minny? How bout Kris Jenkins when he played for Panthers?
June 17th, 2011 at 10:56 am
How bout this….I’ll touch closer to home…..was chester McGlockton a NT? How about Grady Jackson and Sam Admas? I’d love to hear this lol
June 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Brien, most clueless people are stubborn, set on their ways. That’s pretty much what being clueless is. Refusing to adapt to modern day civilization. Thinking your way still works, despite mounting evidence that it doesn’t. Henceforth, clueless. Clues are there, he’s not taking them.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Do you people forget Tommy Kelly last preseason being interviewed talking about the NT spot? Talked about zero tech and all lol
June 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
LMAO!!! I forgot about ol Daddy Henderson. He was hurt most of the time. I actually said that because every time I have brought up needing a nose, on this blog, in the past I always get shot down. Lets jsut call him the some time man near the middle of the line. Hows that?
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299.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
WHat??? We don’t use a noseguard in our scheme. Seymour is the closest you get to a nose.
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Nonsense…….our best run stuffer is John Henderson….where exactly have you been the last year or as a matter of fact the last decade?
Yes we do use a NT in our scheme….where did you get that nonsense? BHP is wrong if you listening to him on that
June 17th, 2011 at 11:01 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Brien, most clueless people are stubborn, set on their ways. That’s pretty much what being clueless is. Refusing to adapt to modern day civilization. Thinking your way still works, despite mounting evidence that it doesn’t. Henceforth, clueless. Clues are there, he’s not taking them.
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HAHAHA maybe you wanna find out what the word clueless means then come back and talk to us ok MR ole buddy ole pal?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
LMAO!!! I forgot about ol Daddy Henderson. He was hurt most of the time. I actually said that because every time I have brought up needing a nose, on this blog, in the past I always get shot down. Lets jsut call him the some time man near the middle of the line. Hows that?
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299.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
WHat??? We don’t use a noseguard in our scheme. Seymour is the closest you get to a nose.
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Nonsense…….our best run stuffer is John Henderson….where exactly have you been the last year or as a matter of fact the last decade?
Yes we do use a NT in our scheme….where did you get that nonsense? BHP is wrong if you listening to him on that
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Let’s just say our best run stuffer doesnt start…..crazy huh?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Al’s clueless, Brien.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Yeah but Tommy Kelly plays the position like a tackle. He does not get in there and block up the gap.
D@mn I wish we would have drafted Raji.
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304.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Do you people forget Tommy Kelly last preseason being interviewed talking about the NT spot? Talked about zero tech and all lol
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
bri-polar.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
WE WANT OSI! WE WANT OSI! WE WANT OSI!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:03 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Al’s clueless, Brien.
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LOL you SCRAMBLING AGAIN…..you said on one hand Al is clueless about modern defense then yet you say he is stubborn? that doesnt make any damn sense lol
June 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
307.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
LMAO!!! I forgot about ol Daddy Henderson. He was hurt most of the time. I actually said that because every time I have brought up needing a nose, on this blog, in the past I always get shot down. Lets jsut call him the some time man near the middle of the line. Hows that?
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299.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
WHat??? We don’t use a noseguard in our scheme. Seymour is the closest you get to a nose.
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Nonsense…….our best run stuffer is John Henderson….where exactly have you been the last year or as a matter of fact the last decade?
Yes we do use a NT in our scheme….where did you get that nonsense? BHP is wrong if you listening to him on that
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Let’s just say our best run stuffer doesnt start…..crazy huh?
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That is crazy but I thought the reason he did not get near to starting was because of his injured foot or something like that.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:04 am
For you, Bri-polar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zWtQFAwvZ0
June 17th, 2011 at 11:05 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
bri-polar.
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As said by the great MAC DRE(RIP)
I got split personalities I’m bipolar
Ya might see me wit my Italion stallion or my chola
Rap rock n rolla I’m dope as yola
If you dont pimp her, Im ike like Dola
I’m ridin in a big boat like Noah
Wit 2 women of each races boy I control her
A ho a ho stable I’m a Mac and a medic
No do ho debt it, thats right I said it
June 17th, 2011 at 11:05 am
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Who thinks we need to resign Huff?
Is it more critical if we can’t get Nam back to sign Huff?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Al Davis is stubborn about doing modern defenses because he refuses to change eventhough they is overwhelming evidence its the new trend but yet he is clueless about it? LOL MR….the hits keep coming
June 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
“They gave us what we were missing, and we gave them (The Raiders) what they were missing, a home”. – Snoop Dogg
June 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:05 am
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Who thinks we need to resign Huff?
Is it more critical if we can’t get Nam back to sign Huff?
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Fugg em both……MM34,Brown and Branch are cool enough for me back there and Nnamdi its time to go….we can use that money to give Osi an extension if we trade for him
June 17th, 2011 at 11:08 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:07 am
“They gave us what we were missing, and we gave them (The Raiders) what they were missing, a home”. – Snoop Dogg
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LOL home was Pittsburgh? Snoop is a big Steeler fan…..Black and Yellow remix? Hello! lol
June 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Bri-polar, you’re not going to twist my words enough to convince people that Al Davis’ isn’t clueless. It’s common knowledge.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am
MR very funny move to to put up the Ice Dud thing with Fraud Dogg……
June 17th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I just cant wait to see how the new Honda Center will look in 2012 fall for those great Anahiem Royals!!! Awesome
June 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
[...] issued the following statement yesterday. “To all my fans, friends and family, I just want to clarify that I did not authorize [...]
June 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Bri-polar, you’re not going to twist my words enough to convince people that Al Davis’ isn’t clueless. It’s common knowledge.
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Kinda off tho is your accusation of al being stubborn and clueless on modern defense….just doesnt work…..find a new angle MR….I hate seeing you struggle like this
June 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Clueless is not a good word to describe AL he is still mentally alert for his age.
Stubborn probably
Stuck in the 70’s yeah most of the time
Arrogant yes
June 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Clueless.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Bri-polar, Cube and Snoop are just keeping it real. The Raiders of that day fit right in with South Central’s gang banging’ culture. Playing for keeps.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:20 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Bri-polar, Cube and Snoop are just keeping it real. The Raiders of that day fit right in with South Central’s gang banging’ culture. Playing for keeps.
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If Fraud Dogg was keeping it real then why is he a Steeler fan? LOL
Yes the Raiders of that time did fit in….LOSERS…we agree there MR….the hits keep coming lol
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Clueless.
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You talking in 2012 when Anaheim gets your NBA team? The Maloofs rule!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Clueless is not a good word to describe AL he is still mentally alert for his age.
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I think the word fits you AND Al Davis.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:23 am
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/16/3704536/union-fight-already-brewing-on.html
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HAHAHAHAHA
June 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Krappy is back even after his chat fight yesterday with his partner in grime brownstains.
Good to see your skipped your sponge bath to be with us Krappy don’t forget you have an enema at 2:00.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:24 am
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Clueless is not a good word to describe AL he is still mentally alert for his age.
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I think the word fits you AND Al Davis.
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KPDK…..you hittin up the old barbershop today and gonna get that U-dome faded in?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Maybe Krappy Kell and Brownstains are the same person they just staged the chat fight yesterday to throw us off.
What do you think bauce?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/nba/sacramento_kings/
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Even more HAHAHAHAHAHA…..too bad the NBA screwed ya in 02…..now you get beaches and warm weather….hey MR at least when you go to a Royals game you will see some bad bzies….altho Sac aint too bad in that department
June 17th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Maybe Krappy Kell and Brownstains are the same person they just staged the chat fight yesterday to throw us off.
What do you think bauce?
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I actually met Mista at the Seattle game last year…..he doesnt sit too far from Norco and I…….cool dude but obviously you two dont like each other….yall are grown men I’ll let yall handle it
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Bri-polar, Snoop and Cube are just keeping it real. Basically, they felt Oakland was too laid back for the Raiders.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:29 am
So MR. Kelly in all seriousness……what is your take on the whole NT/DT situation we have been discussing here the last day or two?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Bri-polar, Snoop and Cube are just keeping it real. Basically, they felt Oakland was too laid back for the Raiders.
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No what they were feeling was some old crusty producer’s hand going up their thigh on the Hollywood casting couch
June 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
You know MR, I have grown to think you are quite cool….you are one funny MFKR eventho you are wrong alot its always a riot when you are in here….you my friend I wouldnt mind catching a beer with
June 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
I would like to party with Norco Bob he seems to always have the chronic.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am
You are a white guy and I’m a black guy I think the comedy would be outrageous….but it wouldnt be like Richard Pryor(Bauce) and Gene Wilder(Norco Bob) funny
June 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Bri-polar, you have to admit, Oakland is kind of laid back compared to L.A., isn’t it? Oakland in the ’80s was all about that pimp style, laid back. Funk music, Too Short. L.A. was all about gang banging. Just faster paced. “straight outta compton”. Don’t Cube and Snoop have a point on the Raiders having a true home in L.A. at that time? Didn’t L.A. fit the Raider image more? Of course, you’re kind of young, so maybe you just don’t understand what they’re talking about.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:34 am
It would be more like Richard Pryor (Bauce) and Sam Kinnison (silverandblack666)
June 17th, 2011 at 11:35 am
They’re showing O.J. police chase footage on ESPN. Guess today’s the anniversary.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:31 am
I would like to party with Norco Bob he seems to always have the chronic
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Bob is a cool mthfka……funny as all hell…..you need to come to the Coliseum this year man…The Saints preseason game on NBC,Jets and Pats to start off home schedule, 3 straight home games before the bye Clev,KC and Dungver, Thanksgiving weekend vs “DA BEARS”, The Lions game will be a good one too and we end off with Bolts at home that may decide division……BAUCE!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:36 am
666…..Sam was one funny yet crazy dude
June 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Bri-polar, you have to admit, Oakland is kind of laid back compared to L.A., isn’t it? Oakland in the ’80s was all about that pimp style, laid back. Funk music, Too Short. L.A. was all about gang banging. Just faster paced. “straight outta compton”. Don’t Cube and Snoop have a point on the Raiders having a true home in L.A. at that time? Didn’t L.A. fit the Raider image more? Of course, you’re kind of young, so maybe you just don’t understand what they’re talking about.
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What was that about Anaheim? You want a Royal jersey signed by Tyreke Evans?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:39 am
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:35 am
They’re showing O.J. police chase footage on ESPN. Guess today’s the anniversary.
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LOL gosh the jokes were awesome that day. Young Bauce’s comedic gems I believe started that day
June 17th, 2011 at 11:39 am
I stopped going two years ago in protest. I was a season ticket holder from 1995 to 2001. Section 141.
I plan on ending my protest this season and going to about 5 or 6 games.
Will defiantly look you up and burn one with you and Norco!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Brien, that was over weeks ago. Kings are getting an arena in Sac. And, yes, I saw your goofy little conspiracy web site. Made for a good laugh. But in the real news, Kings are staying. Just in case you haven’t heard.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Bauce, do you tailgate with Bob, or are you in D and Bob is in A? I can’t remember where. I almost always end up in D in front of the Oracle (about 10 rows back)…hope they settle this soon…getting tailgating fever!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Bauce
I initially agreed with you about a serious NT. But, I think Syemour is a guy who get his hands on O-Lineman, stands them up, and can attack either gap.
They stop the run, stop the run, stop the run. Then a runner gets into the secondary and the DB’s have their backs turned.
I think that’s as much a problem as anything.
June 17th, 2011 at 11:43 am
I thought the Kings had a one year deal to stay in Sac? Sorry if I’m wrong but that is what I heard from one of my friends who is a BIG Kings fan!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Rockstar: Hope you have a Happy Fathers Day this Sunday! Enjoy bro!
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thanks Hwnrdr!
I don’t know if you’re a father or not, but if you are… Happy Dad’s Day to you as well
June 17th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Seymour made pro bowl due to pass rushing
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BAUCE,
Kelly had 7 sacks
Seymour had 5.5
Seymour made the Pro Bowl on reputation, like Champ Bailey
June 17th, 2011 at 11:50 am
yes Happy fathers day to RR, Hwnrdr and any other Raider fan here who is a father!
June 17th, 2011 at 11:50 am
356.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Rockstar: Hope you have a Happy Fathers Day this Sunday! Enjoy bro!
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thanks Hwnrdr!
I don’t know if you’re a father or not, but if you are… Happy Dad’s Day to you as well
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yes I am Rockstar…a boy and a girl…so Thank You! Celebrating Saturday Night so Sunday I can relax, recoup and spend time with them! Couldn’t ask for more…
June 17th, 2011 at 11:51 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,SAME HERE A GREAT FATHERS DAY 2 YOU..AND ALL FATHERS OUT THERE IN RAIDER LAND..
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 am
LeSean McCoy RB of Philly called out Osi Umenyiora and called him overrated and soft
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Really?
that’s hilarious!
the G-Men haven’t been the same since Strahan retired
June 17th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Thanks Dirt Lot and 666!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
666, you didn’t wish a happy father’s day to Krappy!
He’s the proud parent of a huge morning duece he dropped into his tighty whities
June 17th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Bauce
I initially agreed with you about a serious NT. But, I think Syemour is a guy who get his hands on O-Lineman, stands them up, and can attack either gap.
They stop the run, stop the run, stop the run. Then a runner gets into the secondary and the DB’s have their backs turned.
I think that’s as much a problem as anything.
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Fair enough and your reasoning is logical. You have great football knowledge and I know Seymour is a good player but you cant tell me that combo with him and Kelly are good enough to stop the run through a 16+ game season.
Seymour alot of times is going against a LG and C when teams run the ball at us. He shoots the gap or what have you and then what? Is he plugging the middle consistently? Yes he will still make some plays cuz he is Seymour.
Kelly on the other hand has done what in his damn career? He has played every position on the line and still and the run D still sucks. Its amazing its happening. A double team certainly beats his ass 90 pct of the time and he goes backwards alot. He can pass rush pretty decent.
Someone needs to sit out of these two and it needs to be Kelly. I think Rich’s skill set can work well for us with Henderson being the base NT. Its not about stats so much as its about being our strongest at the POA in the middle.
We can cover well enough and get enough turnovers to where I’m not worried about Henderson pressuring the QB.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Thanks Dirt Lot & Silver!
you guys too (if applicable)
June 17th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Seymour made pro bowl due to pass rushing
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BAUCE,
Kelly had 7 sacks
Seymour had 5.5
Seymour made the Pro Bowl on reputation, like Champ Bailey
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Seymour made pro bowl for the first half of seson. He was invisible for the 2nd half mostly
June 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Yeah big up to all the Fathers out there. I’m not a father myself but I do acknowledge Dads usually dont get the credit. That is reserved for “mama” and Pops understand it and keeps on trying to lead his clan the best you can. Hope yall kids do something nice for ya lol
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
http://www.koat.com/news/28271811/detail.html
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This is my client base, lol.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
your reasoning is logical. You have great football knowledge
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Bauce is treating Kell with respect now?
Beeecham should chime in any second, LOL
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:52 am
LeSean McCoy RB of Philly called out Osi Umenyiora and called him overrated and soft
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Really?
that’s hilarious!
the G-Men haven’t been the same since Strahan retired
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G-Men sucked and is another team that got a lucky super bowkl….ya know the Mannings back to back SB wins?….we will get back to that later……but Osi consistently is still getting to the QB. I’ll leave Vegas Raider to do the stats but I guarantee if healthy Osi could net you 12 sacks at the minimum! You wont miss Nnamdi too much after then. We would officially have the baddest defensive line,……yes I said it….the baddest defensive line in all of the league!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
367.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Yeah big up to all the Fathers out there. I’m not a father myself but I do acknowledge Dads usually dont get the credit. That is reserved for “mama” and Pops understand it and keeps on trying to lead his clan the best you can. Hope yall kids do something nice for ya lol
The only time that part about mama is true is when the father is the single parent raising them on their own…well, most of the time! LOL…but thanks Bauce! My son already knows that there is no other team BUT the Raiders!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
your reasoning is logical. You have great football knowledge
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Bauce is treating Kell with respect now?
Beeecham should chime in any second, LOL
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KPDK’s problem isnt really football knowledge….he is just a bitter soul and brings down the blog with the hate campaign on Al. But when he calms down and talks football he generally isnt off.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
367.Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Yeah big up to all the Fathers out there. I’m not a father myself but I do acknowledge Dads usually dont get the credit. That is reserved for “mama” and Pops understand it and keeps on trying to lead his clan the best you can. Hope yall kids do something nice for ya lol
The only time that part about mama is true is when the father is the single parent raising them on their own…well, most of the time! LOL…but thanks Bauce! My son already knows that there is no other team BUT the Raiders!
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Another Silver and Black Dad is raising his son right!…score another one for the Good guys lol!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
http://www.koat.com/news/28271811/detail.html
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This is my client base, lol.
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LOL now that is just GOLD
June 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Bauce, do you tailgate with Bob, or are you in D and Bob is in A? I can’t remember where. I almost always end up in D in front of the Oracle (about 10 rows back)…hope they settle this soon…getting tailgating fever!
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Yeah we be in A lot chillin to start off for a sec and then we hit over to D lot…..check out some people here and there….get this and get that. D Lot isth dopest lot ever. You see more drinking, more smoking, more everything right there……..CANT WAIT
June 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
BAUCE,
Osi Umenyiora has almost 60 sacks in his last 6 seasons. that’s consistancy
guy learned from the best though …
Having said that, I still like ShoNasty, Houston, Scott, Moss, Bryant & Wimbley
the Raiders aren’t hurting for another pass rusher
Osi is cheap though at $3.1 million this year & $3.9 million next. He turns 30 this season, so he’s probably looking for one last HUGE payday (like Nnamdi)
June 17th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
LMAO at Beeecham
Yeah I wonder if he needed help with that bowel movement?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Are you kidding me? I’ve been pleading for the Kelly family to get along for years now!
The fact the Krappy and his grandson Brian the Genital are on speaking terms bodes well for this season. Remember, it’s poor Brian who has to change Krappy’s diapers in the stands during every kickoff and tv timeout.
But you know Krappy is going to get all worked up soon enough, piss off Brian the Genital and they’ll be back to their old shenanigans.
But that’s the wacky old Kelly Family!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I confront racists & bullies, and ignorance everywhere. I don’t give a rat’s azz about being popular here.
But I am a great Raider fan, since 1964. Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989. That’s a problem, period!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Prost!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg78vd0vj3A
June 17th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Yup…you see some crazy sh*t over on D Lot…lol…
That first Sunday Night pre season game I hope comes through…perfect game to start off tailgating season. Don’t have to get up too early, and can start partying by noon! Can’t wait, either!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
LMAO at Beeecham
Yeah I wonder if he needed help with that bowel movement?
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666 When I need to schit, I just do it down your throat, ok?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Al Davis likes Super Bowl winners …
who will we acquire in free agency?
Johnny Jolly DE
Atari Bigby SS
Daryn Colledge G/T
Mason Crosby K
Korey Hall FB
Brandon Jackson RB
Cullen Jenkins DE
James Jones WR
John Kuhn RB/FB
Anthony Smith FS
Jason Spitz C/G
Matt Wilhelm ILB
June 17th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Are you kidding me? I’ve been pleading for the Kelly family to get along for years now!
The fact the Krappy and his grandson Brian the Genital are on speaking terms bodes well for this season. Remember, it’s poor Brian who has to change Krappy’s diapers in the stands during every kickoff and tv timeout.
But you know Krappy is going to get all worked up soon enough, piss off Brian the Genital and they’ll be back to their old shenanigans.
But that’s the wacky old Kelly Family!
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Butt bandit Beecher still upset no one gets to see his Reno 911 Officer Dangle outfit to the Canucks Stanley Cup parade in Vancouver….get over it little buddy
June 17th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I think our DE’s might be the strength of our team next year.
Houston and Shonasty, with Wimbley rushing on every 3rd down. You can put Seymour out there at times.
Waufle was dealt a pretty good hand.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I am a great Raider fan, since 1964.
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Kell,
Al Davis is the OAKLAND RAIDERS since 1963
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I confront racists & bullies, and ignorance everywhere.
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Do you wear a cape while you are doing this???
June 17th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I confront racists & bullies, and ignorance everywhere.
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Do you wear a cape while you are doing this???
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I guess figuratively, I feel good about myself.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Al Davis likes Super Bowl winners …
who will we acquire in free agency?
Johnny Jolly DE
Atari Bigby SS
Daryn Colledge G/T
Mason Crosby K
Korey Hall FB
Brandon Jackson RB
Cullen Jenkins DE
James Jones WR
John Kuhn RB/FB
Anthony Smith FS
Jason Spitz C/G
Matt Wilhelm ILB
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Spitz or Bigby
June 17th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I am a great Raider fan, since 1964.
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Kell,
Al Davis is the OAKLAND RAIDERS since 1963
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And your point is……?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
After the 1962 season, Raiders general partner F. Wayne Valley hired Davis as head coach and general manager. At 33, Davis was the youngest person in professional football history to hold the positions. His image then was very much the same as it is today—slicked-back hair, Brooklyn-tinged speech (the “Raiduhs”), dark glasses and an intense will to win.
Davis immediately began to implement what he termed the “vertical game,” an aggressive offensive strategy based on the West Coast offense developed by Chargers head coach Sid Gillman. Under Davis the Raiders improved to 10–4, the first winning record in franchise history and he was named the AFL’s Coach of the Year in 1963.
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when Kell became a Raider fan, Al Davis was the greatest thing since sliced bread
write that down.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
That was 40 years ago, times change.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Spitz or Bigby
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JFB,
I’d like to see the Raiders sign Daryn Colledge & James Jones
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I confront racists & bullies, and ignorance everywhere. I don’t give a rat’s azz about being popular here.
But I am a great Raider fan, since 1964. Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989. That’s a problem, period!
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Come on man….you are racist on here, try to bully people and show ignorance all the damn time.
Its not about being popular but you have zero fun in this. You are on some personal crusade and bring a negative energy 99 pct of the time.
1964…..cry me a river man. You experienced 66-85 when they were a perennial contending team? What is your complaint? I got more to complain about in the situation than you do. I’m half your age. Think about the years I remember……..now see how I’m still down with the ship? Fk it if you dont like it and know Al will be Al why even spend a second of your time on here? You been a fan since Al has been here so you know the deal. Its like a woman who stays with a man for a long time who abuses her. She complains about it but never leaves the guy.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Muhammad was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, I damned sure don’t want him fighting today.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Bill Russell was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But I don’t want him starting for the Warriors this year.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Jones drops too many passes.
Unless you expect Sanjay to be able to coach him up!!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
That was 40 years ago, times change.
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Yes but owner hasnt…..so why are you still here? Why are you coming around if you are so mad about it? You make hella bread right? You know people who make hella bread……go do something about it. Make a “change” Mr. Big Shot
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Muhammad Ali was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, I damned sure don’t want him fighting today.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
maybe Hue Jackson will improve the Raiders to 10-4 and be named Coach of the Year, like Davis?
you never know. history repeats itself
June 17th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Yes but owner hasnt…..so why are you still here? Why are you coming around if you are so mad about it? You make hella bread right? You know people who make hella bread……go do something about it. Make a “change” Mr. Big Shot
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I go where I want to go emffkr. You don’t own this blog, You don’t speak for RaiderNation.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Its like a woman who stays with a man for a long time who abuses her. She complains about it but never leaves the guy.
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EPIC analogy!!
Well done
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Al Davis is the OAKLAND RAIDERS since 1963
…………
Are you stupid?
Al Davis didn’t becoming managing general partner until 1972. Until that point, Wayne Valley was in charge. Learn your own team’s history if you’re going to be such a homer.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Kell,
maybe Hue Jackson will improve the Raiders to 10-4 and be named Coach of the Year, like Davis?
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Funny in February you predicted the Raiders would go 4-12.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Jones drops too many passes.
Unless you expect Sanjay to be able to coach him up!!
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Jacoby Ford credits Sanjay Lal for his progress as a rookie.
Crazy, huh?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Muhammad was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, I damned sure don’t want him fighting today.
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Bill Russell was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But I don’t want him starting for the Warriors this year.
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Muhammad Ali was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, I damned sure don’t want him fighting today.
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These are posts 395,396 and 399……LOL come on Kell you cant be serious right?
At least have your files in correct order you J5 robotic twit
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Muhammad Ali was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, I damned sure don’t want him fighting today.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Ask any 10 people in Oakland about Al Davis, 8 of them will make faces.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Al Davis didn’t becoming managing general partner until 1972. Until that point, Wayne Valley was in charge. Learn your own team’s history if you’re going to be such a homer.
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MR,
are you saying WIKI was wrong?
oh no! I wasn’t even born until ‘83 home slice
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Maybe not since 64 but since 74…Don’t like what he does sometimes but hey…Al owns the team that we love, or are fans of! It’s kinda scary when he does go because what will really happen to this team? I don’t think Mark will keep it in the family…then you will probably see the Raiders move back to LA because he will sell and jump on his father’s private jet and…well…
June 17th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Yes but owner hasnt…..so why are you still here? Why are you coming around if you are so mad about it? You make hella bread right? You know people who make hella bread……go do something about it. Make a “change” Mr. Big Shot
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I go where I want to go emffkr. You don’t own this blog, You don’t speak for RaiderNation.
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Yes you are right….I dont speak for RaiderNation….I dont speak for black people……nor people from the Bay Area. But I speak for alot on this blog that would prefer you just leave and not come back
June 17th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
in February you predicted the Raiders would go 4-12
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Kell,
they still might, but I wouldn’t say I’m holding out hope that i’ll be right!
LOL
June 17th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
405.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Jones drops too many passes.
Unless you expect Sanjay to be able to coach him up!!
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Jacoby Ford credits Sanjay Lal for his progress as a rookie.
Crazy, huh?
Say what? Are we on candid camera?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Ask any 10 people in Oakland about Al Davis, 8 of them will make faces.
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Yeah so what? 8 out of 10 people in the world happen to be lost and you are one of them.
I know people that will say Al is a cold piece but they still down with the Raiders and will go to the games.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Kell, Rockstar’s point is that he doesn’t know a damned thing about Raiders’ history. Al Davis was an on-and-off employee of the Raiders, owned by Wayne Valley, until 1972.
Kell became a fan in 1964 (one year after Al was hired…AS HEAD COACH, NOTHING MORE).
Kell was a fan for about a decade before Al Davis took control of the team.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Maybe not since 64 but since 74…Don’t like what he does sometimes but hey…Al owns the team that we love, or are fans of! It’s kinda scary when he does go because what will really happen to this team? I don’t think Mark will keep it in the family…then you will probably see the Raiders move back to LA because he will sell and jump on his father’s private jet and…well…
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Trust that will never happen again. They already know LA not working
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis has created a generation of 30 somethings like myself that go into every season with meager expectations.
Wasn’t the same way for the generation before.
Next season has the same concerns as the past 8 years have pretty much had.
Porous run defense, rookie coach, unproven QB.
I have to have faith in Seymour and a pack of young guys to turn it around. Houston, McClain, D-Mac, Miller, Branch and Jacoby Ford. Hopefully add one guy to this list from this draft (Wiz hopefully) and we are on our way.
Raider On fellas. Off to a weekend of gambling and golf in Santa Fe.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Well, off to the gym, boys. Bauce, you ought to try to get outside sometimes, instead of wasting your youth on a blog defending Al Davis all day. Who don’t give a fk about you btw.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
The Raiders will never be good until Davis dies.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Kell, Rockstar’s point is that he doesn’t know a damned thing about Raiders’ history. Al Davis was an on-and-off employee of the Raiders, owned by Wayne Valley, until 1972.
Kell became a fan in 1964 (one year after Al was hired…AS HEAD COACH, NOTHING MORE).
Kell was a fan for about a decade before Al Davis took control of the team.
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LOL isnt funny MR always talk we still run the same schemes from the 60s?
MR Al Davis hand has always been on this team….are you nuts?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Well, off to the gym, boys. Bauce, you ought to try to get outside sometimes, instead of wasting your youth on a blog defending Al Davis all day. Who don’t give a fk about you btw.
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Ha my youth isnt being wasted….I’m not married,never been in the pen and have no kids….dont know what the hell you are talking about lol
You have only a few years left and you havent learned by now not to spent so much hate on one person?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Hwnrdr,
You mean to tell me Mark Davis would ditch Oakland and move the Raiders to Los Angeles? Where would he get such an idea?
Oh, that’s right, his father did the same 30 years ago!
June 17th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Kirk Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
The Raiders will never be good until Davis dies.
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Ok if you believe that why dont you stay away until that happens?
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Hwnrdr,
You mean to tell me Mark Davis would ditch Oakland and move the Raiders to Los Angeles? Where would he get such an idea?
Oh, that’s right, his father did the same 30 years ago!
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Those snake politicians down there wont even deal with the Raiders ever again period
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
old Krappy is grumpy he has been constipated since Tuesday, he ran out of Metamucil. He is dreaming of crapping down people throats but he couldn’t even squeeze out a fart to save his life.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Brien, Wayne Valley had control of the Raiders until 1972. Whatever control Al Davis thought he had up to that point, was what Wayne Valle allowed him to have. Fact. Learn your team’s history.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Poor Rockstar. He’s scouring the internet right now looking for any 3rd rate fan site stating that Al Davis owned the team since 1963. Good luck. You’re not going to find a credible source that says so, because Al didn’t control sheeet until 1972.
June 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
402.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Its like a woman who stays with a man for a long time who abuses her. She complains about it but never leaves the guy.
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EPIC analogy!!
Well done
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When you have kids together (the Raiders) you try and make it work lol.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis has created a generation of 30 somethings like myself that go into every season with meager expectations.
Wasn’t the same way for the generation before.
Next season has the same concerns as the past 8 years have pretty much had.
Porous run defense, rookie coach, unproven QB.
I have to have faith in Seymour and a pack of young guys to turn it around. Houston, McClain, D-Mac, Miller, Branch and Jacoby Ford. Hopefully add one guy to this list from this draft (Wiz hopefully) and we are on our way.
Raider On fellas. Off to a weekend of gambling and golf in Santa Fe.
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Well we actually got some young talent. Raiders havent really had good or great youg talent collectively since the damn 90s maybe.
But a rookie coach can win division and even get to conference title game. Saw Sean Payton do it and 2005 Saints were worse thanthe 2010 Raiders. Hue already has rapport with these guys which should help right?
JC I agree is an unproven winner in this league but he isnt an unproven starter in this juncture for our team. He is accurate enough and mobile enough to make some things happen but we cant overdo it with him.
Run defense is a concern
June 17th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Dakota Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
402.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Its like a woman who stays with a man for a long time who abuses her. She complains about it but never leaves the guy.
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EPIC analogy!!
Well done
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When you have kids together (the Raiders) you try and make it work lol.
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WOW
June 17th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I haven’t spent a dime on the Raiders in years. So I guess what you guys must mean is that I’m still “with” the Raiders, or Al Davis, lol, because I leave comments on a blog. Whatever you say. Like I said, Al Davis hasn’t gotten a dime off of me in years. So at least I can say that.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Wow, someone other than me realizes the FACT that the Raiders will be a complete joke untill the glorious day Al Davis dies.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Brien, Wayne Valley had control of the Raiders until 1972. Whatever control Al Davis thought he had up to that point, was what Wayne Valle allowed him to have. Fact. Learn your team’s history.
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Does Wayne Valley know football like Al Davis? Ok now we see that since the 60s Al has had his stamp on the team as far as schemes and personnel go.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I haven’t spent a dime on the Raiders in years. So I guess what you guys must mean is that I’m still “with” the Raiders, or Al Davis, lol, because I leave comments on a blog. Whatever you say. Like I said, Al Davis hasn’t gotten a dime off of me in years. So at least I can say that.
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Yep feel good….. we glad you dont roll to the games
June 17th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Dan Land Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Wow, someone other than me realizes the FACT that the Raiders will be a complete joke untill the glorious day Al Davis dies.
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He will never die
June 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Bri-polar, I know you’re not known for your apprehension skills. I’ll try to slow it down, just for you. OK?
Al Davis was hired in 1963, by WAYNE VALLEY, the owner of the Oakland Raiders.
Al Davis took over as managing general partner in 1972 (by some pretty shameful means, different topic altogether).
Between 1963 and 1972, Al Davis was an on-and-off employee for the Raider, for WAYNE VALLEY.
Whatever control he had, was what Valley ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE.
VALLEY SIGNED THE CHECKS.
VALLEY WAS THE OWNER, UNTIL 1972!
Do you still not understand?
Let me know.
I can try to go even slower.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
“The Raiders will be back. I have unshakable confidence, the will to win, and I just know that the fire that burns brightest in this building is the will to win. And we will win. We will win.”—Al Davis
June 17th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Bri-polar, I know you’re not known for your apprehension skills. I’ll try to slow it down, just for you. OK?
Al Davis was hired in 1963, by WAYNE VALLEY, the owner of the Oakland Raiders.
Al Davis took over as managing general partner in 1972 (by some pretty shameful means, different topic altogether).
Between 1963 and 1972, Al Davis was an on-and-off employee for the Raider, for WAYNE VALLEY.
Whatever control he had, was what Valley ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE.
VALLEY SIGNED THE CHECKS.
VALLEY WAS THE OWNER, UNTIL 1972!
Do you still not understand?
Let me know.
I can try to go even slower.
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Al dictated who the coaches were, what the schemes would be, what the personnel would…..HE’s THE MAN!
June 17th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Who handpicked John Rauch to get us to elite?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Bri-polar,
Explain to me how Al could have dictated anything when he was merely an employee?
Valley dictated.
Valley CHOSE to let Al pick the football operations.
Vally could have fired Al at any moment. (and he should have).
That is not control.
That is not dictating.
That’s being an employee, for hire, who can be fired, any moment, for any reason!
Until 1972, Al Davis didn’t run anything but his mouth.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I’m interested to know how a guy head of football operations has no influence on the team? Please run that down for me? He was coach from 63-66 and left for 2 damn months to be commish of AFL. Then came back to team….part time? LOL you gotta do better than this
June 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Bri-polar,
Explain to me how Al could have dictated anything when he was merely an employee?
Valley dictated.
Valley CHOSE to let Al pick the football operations.
Vally could have fired Al at any moment. (and he should have).
That is not control.
That is not dictating.
That’s being an employee, for hire, who can be fired, any moment, for any reason!
Until 1972, Al Davis didn’t run anything but his mouth.
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Of course he could….he was the smarter football brain in the room. Sure he could and did
June 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Bauce,
How long has Al Davis been saying the Raiders will be back?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Dan Land Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Bauce,
How long has Al Davis been saying the Raiders will be back?
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Since return home? Well we had a decent 3 year run I remember within the last decade or so…..and that quote was made in 2008 and we have looked better football wise than we have in a long time.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Who was it who had the nasty problems with Rauch? Valley or Al?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Exactly tell me who hired Madden? Who gave him the interview? Who had the final word on that?
Valley had Al as a coach so you think he doesnt respect his football mind?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Valley drafted Shell and Upshaw?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
We should get together and buy you know who a Bday present.
What was the name of that stripper Chargerdown married?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Plunketthead Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
We should get together and buy you know who a Bday present.
What was the name of that stripper Chargerdown married?
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Seriously lol
June 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Anyways….I’m out….yall be cool
June 17th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Watched part of the 1996 NBA draft on NBA tv over my lunch hour….amazing how things have changed just in the broadcast of the event….and amazing how many people were wrong about those picks lol.
Kerry Kittles over Kobe Bryant? Really Calipari?
June 17th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Bauce is sharp. I didnt know if anyone would get it.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
imagine a starting db complaining about the raiders schemes on d.i told all of raider nation that long ago.of course i was right….without namdi they better play a lot more zone with zone blitzes,or else they will give up 30 a game….
June 17th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
al was way ahead of the curve until the mid 80’s.the first sign of decline came when he traded 2 high picks for that chick willie gault.that was an ominous sign of things to come
June 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
We have been lit up more times then not over the past few years. Not only that but it seemed everytime a team really needed to they put up 6 points.
I just wish we had been able to get a draft pick for NA
June 17th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Brien, we’re not discussing Al’s influence on the team.
We’re discussing control.
RaiderRockTard said that since 1963, the Raiders and Al Davis have been synonymous, and that is utter b.s.
Al was merely an employee of the Raiders until 1972.
No matter how much control he was GRANTED, by WAYNE VALLEY (who really did control the Raiders then), he was not in control.
No matter what coaches he was allowed to hire, he was not in control.
No matter what schemes or players he was allowed to implement, by WAYNE VALLEY, the OWNER, WHO WAS IN CONTROL, and SIGNED AL DAVIS’S CHECKS, and could have FIRED AL, at ANY MOMENT, he was NOT IN CONTROL.
WAYNE VALLEY was.
We’re discussing historical facts, bri-polar.
Not how much control Valley allowed his employees to have.
Al Davis was took orders until 1972.
Period.
Historical facts.
The End.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
no pash rushing d line,and no zone blitz.the offense may be better,but the d could be rotten next year.better play a lot of zone….
June 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
“coach” alva has been lapped by everyone…..wayne valley might be a better option…lol
June 17th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Regarding who’s to credit for the Raiders winning in those days?
Let’s put it this way.
If Valley gets Ron Wolf’s number, the Raiders are just as good as if Al Davis never existed, if not better.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
The first time I remember thinking “what the hell is Al Davis thinking?” was when he traded Jim Lachey for Jay Schroeder….I still remember my dad (A Bears’ fan) shaking his head and laughing about it.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
not to mention mclain is better in a 3-4 d.but if they play a 4-3,lamar houston should be a tackle.he is quicker than all the other dt’s.but he is playing end.friggin’ stupid…..
June 17th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Which owners do you guys think are the ones trying to torpedo the progress in the CBA talks? Adam Schefter said there were two from the AFC….my money would be on Mike Brown of Cincinnati and Ralph Wilson Jr of the Bills.
Al may have to swoop in on his golf cart and save the day again.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Super duper popper looper scooter dooter??????????
June 17th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
I’m pretty sure Al Davis has about as much influence on whether or not the owners will continue to lock America out of football as he does on the game itself anymore. Very little.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
458.RAIDER Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Regarding who’s to credit for the Raiders winning in those days?
Let’s put it this way.
If Valley gets Ron Wolf’s number, the Raiders are just as good as if Al Davis never existed, if not better.
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Only in your personal fantasy world is this true. Again, not even Ron Wolf himself (may his name be ever sacred to his one man fan club) believes this tripe.
Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells credited Al Davis with teaching them about football- but I suppose we should respect your football accumen over theirs?
Oh, and Paul Rubens to play AD? That was a pretty choice little flame. Al Pacino would be better. Troll.
June 17th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Neither Bill Walsh, Bill Parcells, or Ron Wolf have ever credited Al Davis for teaching them about football. You want to talk about a personal fantasy world…
June 17th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
And remember…
Wayne Valley/Ron Wolf would have had the Raiders winning well into the ’90s, too. This theory is proven by the fact that Ron Wolf won a Super Bowl in 1997. The Al Davis-run Raiders were dead in the water by the late ’90s, until Gruden saved them.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Al Davis is the worst GM in the history of the NFL….he proved it by setting a record for most 10+ loss seasons in a row.
The game has unquestionably passed him by and I can’t wait till he is out of the picture…..unless Mark Davis tried to be a GM too….then I might miss Al….
June 17th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
<——-still waiting for someone to remember that stripper name?
June 17th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Dakota, why do you always speak your mind about Al, then at the end, throw in some sort of little disclaimer to give Al the benefit of the doubt? Don’t be scared of these punks. Say what you gotta say.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
MR,
There will always be a bit of the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know when it comes to Al Davis. Al is bad, but we might end up with someone like Mike Brown or Bidwell….or Donald Sterling….
I can’t stand Al’s decision making, but you can’t dispute the fact that Al spends his money on the team.
I can’t imagine we will do worse once he is gone….but we might…..
June 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Mark Davis is an 8ball away from having massive heart failure… That guy looks like a giant Dope Fiend.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Dakota, you gave a damning indictment of Al Davis. Said he was worthless. There was no “devil you know” to it. You basically said the team would be better if someone stuffed a grenade up Al’s ass. Then, at the end, you sort of bite your tongue and pretend that there’s a lot worse than Al out there…knowing you don’t really believe that. You know Al’s bad. Very bad. As in, a 12 year old girl could run the team better than him, let alone his son Mark. How do you know his son Mark would be so bad, anyway? It’s just weird how you do that. You give these damning indictments of Al, then practically retract your own statement in the last sentence. It just seems like you’re timid, that’s all. These punks that come in here and shill for Al are harmless. They’re witless and don’t even know how to insult people. I hope you don’t back peddle on their account.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Relax MR, I am just a little bit to the left of your stance on Al….not much, just a little.
I realize that Al, for all his faults, still at least puts money back into his product in a desperate attempt to win one last SB….there are owners out there who simply want to spend as little as possible and just collect the shared revenue, which I think would be worse that Al.
I would love for Al to remain the owner and keep feeding his money into the franchise while backing off and allowing a bright young mind to run the team, but I don’t see that happening unless Al has a frontal lobe stroke that completely changes his personality.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
worse *than* Al.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Thats sad, real sad. As if you dont spread enough hate in here.
Now you are trying to enlist Dakota in your quest for self satisfaction. I dont think he is ready to throw away his life and spend the rest of his days in here with you picking type fights.
June 17th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
I don’t want anything to do with MR’s “quest for self satisfaction”….he has cousins for that….
June 17th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Time to go do some yard work. Have a nice weekend everyone!
GOOOO LAKERS….Gasol to Minny for the #2 and Kevin Love baby!
June 17th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Kell became a fan in 1964 (one year after Al was hired…AS HEAD COACH, NOTHING MORE).
Kell was a fan for about a decade before Al Davis took control of the team.
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MR,
Back then Head Coaches actually had “control” of the team
Al Davis changed that since
June 17th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Poor Rockstar. He’s scouring the internet right now looking for any 3rd rate fan site stating that Al Davis owned the team since 1963.
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MR,
find where I ever said “Al Davis has owned the team since 1963.”
thanks for playing
June 17th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Kerry Kittles over Kobe Bryant?
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Yeah baby!
June 17th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
since 1963, the Raiders and Al Davis have been synonymous, and that is utter b.s.
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I stand by that. Kell (who I was talking to) didn’t challenge that either
he replied “times have changed” or something like that
MR, grow up
June 17th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Ozzie Newsome expects Ravens to be patient in free agency
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal (PFT)
Don’t expect the Ravens to jump into free agency as aggressively as teams like the Eagles and Jaguars.
“Is it probably going to be fast-paced? Yes. But I think a lot of teams are going to exhibit some patience, and I think that’s the position we’re going to be in,” Newsome told Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun.
There are different ways to get value in free agency. Newsome sounds more likely to look for value after the first few days of free agency, especially with players that get cut elsewhere.
Coach John Harbaugh indicated some level of interest in cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, but that’s the type of player Newsome doesn’t sound likely to go after.
“We have a veteran team, but some of our success in the past is waiting and keeping an eye on guys who get cut, players that can come in and help our football team just as much as [unrestricted free agents],” Newsome said.
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Cross the Ravens off of Nnamdi’s list
I still say Washington Redskins (highest bidder)
June 17th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I honestly hope the Raiders sign free agent WR David Tyree
He’s better than Nick Miller, Damola Adeniji, Shaun Bodiford & David Ausberry. Chaz is injury prone
June 17th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
461.Dakota Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Which owners do you guys think are the ones trying to torpedo the progress in the CBA talks? Adam Schefter said there were two from the AFC….my money would be on Mike Brown of Cincinnati and Ralph Wilson Jr of the Bills.
Al may have to swoop in on his golf cart and save the day again.
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From the AFC, I think it is Bob Kraft and Mike Brown.
Most are probably in the NFC. Richardson, Jones, the Giants and Jets owners, Snyder.
June 17th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Tyree is only 31 years old and he’s a stud on special teams. Even made the Pro Bowl in 2005
not bad for a former 6th rounder. not much tread on the tires either. Only 5 career starts at WR in 7 NFL seasons
June 17th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
al has also made some TERRIBLE HORRIBLE PLAIN STUPID DECISIONS. THE WORST MOVING TO LA. THE LA RAIDERS? A TOUGH MAKEUP WEARING ACTOR? A FLASHY LAMBORGINI(LA) GETS RAN OVER BY A DUMP TRUCK( OAKLAND) AND REMEMBER THIS IS FOOTBALL FOLKS. THE JIM PLUNKETT BENCHING, THE MARCUS ALLEN HATING,THE JON GRUDEN TRADING AND THE TIM BROWN CUTTING. ALSO THE MOST RECENT THE JAMARAKAZZ RUSSELL PICK. HOWEVER HE HAS BEEN THE GM FOR OVER FORTY YEARS LONGER THAN MOST FANS ARE ALIVE. WE HAVE A GOOD YOUNG TEAM THAT IS ON THE UPSWING AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THESE RAIDERS THEY ACTUALLY PLAY HARD AND PLAY LIKE RAIDERS. SO REMEMBER THIS TEAM WAS DRAFTED NOT YANKEE CONSTRUCTED ( BOUGHT) DRAFTED WHO DRAFTS FOR THE RAIDERS?
June 17th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Isnt David Tyree in the middle of getting bashed by every gay and lesbian organization in the usa for his Gays shouldnt be married Rant…
June 17th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
BAUCE,
Our defense is absolutely good enough to win the title.
the talent is there. Can they stay motivated? How’s the coaching from Chuck B, Greg Biekert & Rod Woodson in 2011? Do we have adequate depth? Can we stay healthy or at least have backups that fill in for starters admirably?
Still a lot of questions, but still plenty of time to find answers …
I disagree with you that we don’t have a nose tackle (John Henderson), starter quality WLB (Q Groves) and pass rusher (Kam Wimbley)
the problem with the defense last year was consistancy, both in pass coverage & run defense.
Can’t take plays off. Gonna be disciplined. No more stupid penalties. No more big plays allowed due to confusion or miscommunication
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bauce
you are absolutly 100% correct.
Gotta hook up at a game an have a cold one!!
June 17th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Al Davis has created a generation of 30 somethings like myself that go into every season with meager expectations.
Wasn’t the same way for the generation before.
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Exactly, these young Raider fans don’t know anything but losing and the Greatness of Al Davis. (Bauce)
June 17th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Not so true
I was at the “sea of hands” game also
many others in the 70’s. Tho I was born in 70.
Just makes me a raider fan period no old school fan new school fan
were all fans period. An I myself look forward to a winning season EVERY season
if I was 60 I still want my team to be victorious.
June 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
YOU DIDNT GET THE MEMO? PER TOM CABLE WERE NOT LOSERS ANYMORE!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Al Davis and the Raiders are the best organization around i like checkin this site for all the haters ican tell you everything Al has done.
first he was a main player in merging the leauges.
moved to LA only because Oakland did not want to put up money for luxry boxes saw N.F.L getting big in that aspect moved to a huge stadium a mistake but had some crowds of 80,000 plus have you heard of a football game with that many people?
Hired first Latin and afircan american coaches?
He started with getting players from other teams and making them play together, (FA) Niners did it to win a Super Bowl but cheated and De bardelo was kicked out of the league.
He did not want to pay Jamarcuss and everyone said The Raiders were weak Al cant sign a first overall pick he was ahead of the game again he was trying to say rookies dont deserve that money but he caved to the preasure now the leauge wants to have a rookie cap?
he has been bringing in players for years it not his fault they always dont perform from Moss to Alzado
come on..
As far as the team Raider Fan till I die just love watching the silver & black cant count the ways & times we got screwed not Al s fault
As far as this team we have a good foundation tough Scheadule so keeping it real but good teams win those game biggest concern is O line but if this young line up performs can have a good line for years it is called cotinunity needed for success.
Valdeer,Loper,Wiz,Campbell,Barksdale all young besides
Loper if they work out set for at least 5 years
And lets give Bey 1 more year this site said D-Mac was a bust 2 years ago best in the leauge checked stats on S, Smith Ocho and others their first years not mind blowing Bey Came in alittle Raw we knew this has size and speed works hard let wait and see Craptree, Britt other headaches we compare . out
June 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
ALTHOUGH IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THE RAIDERS WERE NEVER LOSERS JUST COULDNT FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY WAS RIGHT OR WHICH WAY WAS LEFT FOR A WHILE EVEN IN THE WORST DECADE IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL WE STILL MADE A SUPERBOWL. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GREATNESS OF THE RAAAAAAAAAAAAIDDDDDDDDDDDDDUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989!
June 17th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Krappy you need to get Al’s home address, put on your very best broker suit and go tell him face to face all about his losing record.
Ah, right, but you’re probably too busy showing your ZERO listings, huh?
June 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
WHAT WAS HIS RECORD BEFORE THEN?
June 17th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
TWO OR THREE WINNING SEASONS IN A ROW WHICH COULD EASILY HAPPEN WITH THIS TEAM THAT STAT IS ERASED JUST LIKE THE LAST DECADE MADE THAT STAT VALID BUT YOU COULDNT HAVE SAID THAT IN 2002 AND YOU KNOW IT. NOW WE STILL SUCKED BUT WE CAN ALSO TURN THAT AROUND
June 17th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Meeze Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
WHAT WAS HIS RECORD BEFORE THEN?
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LOOK IT UP IF YOU’RE INTERESTED!
June 17th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Sad old man, whining and crying like all day like a sissy on a football blog, too scared to actually do anything about it …
June 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
THE RAIDERS HAVE BEEN IRRELEVANT IN THE NFL SINCE 1989.
June 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Niners have 5 super bowls they are the best they have Harbaugh Crabtree Gore Willis Kapernick now i think they are going for six there record this last decade has to be over 57% there offense is explosive and that pas defense 2nd in the league?
June 17th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Krappy, how can you say you work for Kane & Associates when you haven’t had an actual listing in months?
They got you cleaning toilets over there?
June 17th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
THE RAIDERS HAVE HAD FIVE 10 WINS OR MORE SEASONS IN THE LAST 23 YEARS
June 17th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I WONT BUT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE
June 17th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Meeze Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I WONT BUT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE
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MUHAMMAD ALI WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE IN THE 1960’s, TOO.
June 17th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
ALI DOESNT STILL BOX
June 17th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
THANK GOD
June 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
IF HE(ALI) DID HE WOULD BE KILLED IN CONTRAST THE OLD MAN AL HAS SOME FIGHT LEFT AND ALTHOUGH YOU ARE NOT WRONG FOR POINTING OUT HIS FAILURES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL SEEN THEM HE ALSO STILL HAS BEEN VERY CLOSE AND I THINK THIS TEAM CAN GET US WERE WE WANT TO BE. YOUR A RAIDERS FAN RIGHT KELL/ I KONW THIS MAN HAS MADE YOU WANT TO KILL HIM BUT HE HAS ALSO GAVE YOU A LOT OF GREAT TEAMS AND MONMENTS OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE LIKE omniscience AND LIKE THE FORTY NINERS
June 17th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Always fun to come in here and bust Krappy a few times in the mouth before the Friday party starts!
Got the PARTYDUDE 8000 margarita machine fired up and my ladies are taking turns riding the new mechanical bull I just installed in the living room.
Next I gotta get some chicken fingers on the grill and crank some sweet Huey Lewis & The News!
MO MONEY LESS PROBLEMS
June 17th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
YEAH TELL THAT TO EVANDER
June 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Of course the Organization was great, I was fortunate to see and enjoy it, that’s why I’m still here.
But that don’t help me on Sundays, in the 21st Century.
If, if, if the HueJax/Al Davis relationship holds, maybe they could. If.
June 17th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
i believe that it will. like i said a few post before i reall ylike this young TEAM! and thats what i think they are a real team. yes with holes but what team doesnt if they can become a great team it will appear they have none like the steelers or pats but we all know football and know at the end of the these teams have weaknesses too but the compensate by the whole team playing thier part and trusting each other thats all we need is some trust and a vet olineman
June 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
dahl and satele who is still young and could end up being a solid guard oh gaithier to
June 17th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
OUT OAKLAND COLISEUM VS MIDGETS LETS GO OAKLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Fakeazz fans say they were loyal when team wins but don’t support the team when the lose.
anyone can say they supported team years or decades ago, but it’s all lip.
If you are fake now, you were always fake
June 17th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Stak Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Fakeazz fans say they were loyal when team wins but don’t support the team when the lose.
anyone can say they supported team years or decades ago, but it’s all lip.
If you are fake now, you were always fake
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Losers like losing, huh?
June 17th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
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June 17th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Raiders gab you suck in a big way
June 17th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Pitos
June 17th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Losers like losing, huh?
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You aren’t too bright, are you?
I said fakeazz fans are the ones that proudly show their colors, and show for games when the team is on top, then jump off when the team starts to lose.
Real fans support the team all the time, win or lose.
Fake ones bail when things get tough, then when the team rises, they act like they were there all along.
49ers are full of fakeazz fans.
Seems suited for you, no?
June 17th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Hey, I’m not down with a lot of things the front office does, but I’m a fan of the Raiders.
IMO, I don’t agree with anyone who says you like the team, so you have tolike the front office.
Or that the front office is having problems so now a fan has an excuse to stop supporting the team.
You don’t want to support the team?
fine, just don’t call yourself a fan. it’s insulting to the real fans
June 17th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Real Raider fans don’t like Al Davis.
Because he’s the reason we s0ck.
June 17th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Al’s made a lot of goofy decisions that switched me from being a believer in Al.
So i support the team, while wishing theowner would get out of the way.
June 18th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Well I’m just the opposite because the owner is the only reason we might get better. Maybe you’d prefer Bill Bidwill…just go root for another team. Don’t let the door hitcha’ where the good Lord spilt cha’
June 18th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Most of ya’ have no idea who or what Al Davis is to the Raiders and the NFL. You aint real Raiders you’re a bunch a squarez!!…………..period
June 18th, 2011 at 12:48 am
It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
It was a hardcore Soul and Blues night…me ears be ringing!
Everybody see this drivel thrown out earlier?? Talk about not having a CLUE about what he professes to be all-knowing about:
111.RAIDER Says:
June 16th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I agree that a high scoring offense masks a poor run defense. But what does a high scoring offense have to do with the Raiders? The Raiders do not having a high scoring offense, and aren’t even close to having one.
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Then…he comes back a few minutes later, after checking wikipedia and realizing he just MADE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE A BLUBBERING FOOL one more time…and generously tells us he realizes he made a mistake. The Raiders, of course, had one of the League’s more explosive Offenses last year, even while falling all over ourselves.
His not knowing the Raiders had a high-scoring Offenses last year WAS NO MISTAKE. MR SIMPLY DOESN’T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT THE RAIDERS AS HE BEGS THE WORLD TO THINK HE DOES.
It’d be funny…instead, it just reeks of pathetic, lonely troll…and the biggest propaganda (read: BS) spreader on the blog.
But…it was HILARIOUS to see him trip over himself to try and make it seem like it was no big deal!
June 18th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Ahh…more fun is beckoning. Wish I could stay longer, but the night’s still young enough, if you know what I mean…
As usual…
It’s a great time to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
June 18th, 2011 at 1:12 am
If anyone remembers post-game interview after the Raiders beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl…
The players, coaches, and Davis, even the Eagles losing coach, all mentioned how the game was all about a philosophy of play vs a philosophy of play. Davis wants to win but also win a certain way. A philosophical-tactical thing of physical dominance.
I’m fine with Davis having a style and being insistent on it. But Davis has been lax over the years in ignoring focus on the OL, the DTs. Not putting more focus on them in drafts and FA. Establishing and maintaining a bedrock strength at the LOS is imperative and will always keep a team strong and competitive even in down years.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:00 am
what the eff has happened to Val Kilmer?? he look like sh!t
June 18th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Uh we have one of the youngest Olines in the NFL via the draft. We also have some great young talent on the Dline I’m not sure what you guys want?
June 18th, 2011 at 9:49 am
But Davis has been lax over the years in ignoring focus on the OL, the DTs. Not putting more focus on them in drafts and FA. Establishing and maintaining a bedrock strength at the LOS is imperative and will always keep a team strong and competitive even in down years.
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Cooper Carlisle was a free agent acquisition and has been a capable starter for a few years now. Samson Satele replaced Jake Grove via trade, and he’s been at least serviceable. He’s certainly been more durable than Grove has. Langston Walker was another free agent acquisition. Jared Veldheer, Mario Henderson, Stefen Wisniewski and Joe Barksdale are all Raider draft picks.
Richard Seymour was brought in via trade, John Henderson via free agency, and Lamaar Houston via the draft. While Houston plays primarily at end, he can (and has) played effectively inside. Desmond Bryant is an undrafted free agent that has shown great promise.
Talk about the results if you want to, but to say that Davis has ignored the lines via draft and free agency just isn’t accurate.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Yea actually Houston was a DT in his Texas Career and his last year had 12 sacks as a DT. When we brought him in he ended up switching to DE..
June 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Davis is an idiot.
That’s why the Raiders have been so bad for so long.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Dakota Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I realize that Al, for all his faults, still at least puts money back into his product in a desperate attempt to win one last SB…
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No he doesn’t!
When has Al ever made a serious run for truly valuable free agents?
He hasn’t since 2002!
He signs mediocre free agents to back loaded contracts that look good on paper. He never even really has to pay them.
This is what I’m talking about.
You leave these bizarre comments where you’ll just let loose on Al Davis, then you’ll pull this 180 and make some homerish shill for Al.
He does not spend money on players.
He only took a bath on Russell, with the signing bonus. And look how hard he tried to get out of that, right after drafting him! His “great playah!”. Al didn’t sign him till the flippin’ season started, because Al didn’t want to pay him either. And at that time Al had no clue how bad he’d be. Al thought he was that great franchise QB, still didn’t want to pay him.
Al Davis is not throwing his shirt on the table to win a Super Bowl. But his underhanded tactics to make some fans think that he is evidently working its magic.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Do you think any top notch free agent would ever sign one of those back loaded contracts that Al’s given to these bums in recent years? They’re not stupid, and neither are their agents. They want money, now. And Al has not been willing to pay that kind of money in nearly a decade. Al has been non existent in the free agent market since 2002. Irrelevant. The agents of top notch free agents don’t even consider the Raiders.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
since 1963, the Raiders and Al Davis have been synonymous, and that is utter b.s.
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I stand by that.
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Then you’re standing by a lie.
Al Davis did not have a controlling interest in the Raiders until 1972.
Up to that point, Al Davis could have been fired for being ugly. The team belonged to Wayne Valley, period.
Al invented the uniforms? The eye patch? I’m touched.
All that considered, if Al’s right hand man Ron Wolf isn’t bringing in those players that turned in so many wins, Al and his uniforms and eye patch are GONE! Valley would have fired Al before Al even had a chance to con him.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Purple Drank,
Read my post. I didn’t say he was exclusively a defensive tackle. He did play inside for the Raiders last year at times, however, and was very effective doing so.
He’s not going to replace Richard Seymour, and he’s not going to replace Tommy Kelly (Raiders’ defensive player of the year). He’s a talent that has to be on the field though, and we’re lucky enough to have a kid that’s versatile enough to play either position.
My post was meant to refure the claim that Davis hasn’t addressed the defensive tackle position. Al has added Richard Seymour, John Henderson, Lamaar Houston and Desmond Bryant to this team just in the past two or three years, and Lamaar Houston has indeed played DT for the Raiders. All four are upgrades over what we had before. It just can’t be said with any credibility that Al Davis hasn’t addressed the defensive tackle position.
June 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
ET I’m puzzled how people can say we don’t do something they’ve watched us do in the last 3 years. We drafted 4 Olineman in the last 2 years and we have one of the youngest Dlines in the league, outside of TK, Seymour and Henderson the rest are puppies. It boggles my mind how some can’t see that and be here everyday.
We haven’t neglected any position at including QB. I guess some people can’t comment unless it’s a complaint. So………..whateva!
June 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I don’t know either, Priest. All a person has to do is look at the roster, and when certain players arrived. Pretty simple, I would think.
Al HAS had some bad luck with o-linemen, what with some guys not performing the way maybe you’d hope they would have (Grove, Gallery, Mario Henderson to some extent); hopefully the new kids we’ve added the past couple of years can reverse that trend.
June 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
tj,
Im puzzled how you said over & over we run alot of zone and exotic schemes when its obvious to the most casual observer we run man 2 man almost 100% of the time.
S Routt made a fool and a liar out of you, throw the swastika card at him why dontcha.
June 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Wrong.
AL changes coaches every 2-3 years, there isnt a sytem in place therefore the kids he drafts don’t fit in. And then you have power struggles with AL & the coaches and a guy like B Campbell is unknown going into his 2nd year.
Not exactly bad luck more like a dysfunctional operation from top to bottom.
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Edward Teach Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Al HAS had some bad luck with o-linemen, what with some guys not performing the way maybe you’d hope they would have (Grove, Gallery, Mario Henderson to some extent); hopefully the new kids we’ve added the past couple of years can reverse that trend.
June 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Al’s “dysfunction”, as you call it, had nothing to do with Jake Grove’s getting injured over and over. He’s doing the same thing in Miami.
It has nothing to do with Mario Henderson struggling against speed rushers and false-starting repeatedly.
There’s definitely a case to be made for Gallery’s changing positions repeatedly having to do with coaching changes and so forth, but the fact that he didn’t end up playing the position he was drafted to play (and never will) has as much to do with him not living up to his potential as it does anything else.
June 18th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
priesttj Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Well I’m just the opposite because the owner is the only reason we might get better. Maybe you’d prefer Bill Bidwill…just go root for another team. Don’t let the door hitcha’ where the good Lord spilt cha’
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Wrong. Owner is supposed to hire a GM, which is a full time job, in order to get better.
Al is a skinflint, which is why he skimps on paying coaches, while throwing bad money at players.
That’s just two of the reasons I don’t agree with the front office, while still supporting the TEAM.
Get it?
Obviosly you don’t. you are one of the two opposites i spoke of, where you believe you must love every fool in the front office because you think that makes you a fan.
It doesn’t. it makes you a fool
June 18th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
ET I don’t think Kirk has ever wrote a knowledgable post it’s juts always attack Al Davis right or wrong with no substance behind it. The guy has trouble seeing past his own crap. It’s just complain complain complain with no insight whatsoever……goofy!!
June 18th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Stak he aint supposed to do a dman thing he doesn’t want to do. Getting a GM isn’t the be all to end all he will still run the draft. Also even if he did hire a GM half you dumbells will say he has no say in anything so what’s the point???
June 18th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Priest,
I don’t mind it when people criticize Al. He’s a polarizing figure even when he wins, and the record has been less than exemplary the past several years.
I think he does care, despite some comments to the contrary in here. Does he demand too much control? Probably. He’s an old man now, and you just can’t run a franchise by yourself any more.
Sure, he’s open to criticism. But he’s not the only owner or GM to address a position group and have bad luck with it. He has absolutely addressed the offensive and defensive lines the past few years. Some guys have worked out, some guys haven’t, but the o-line guys he did draft had good college production and were taken with high draft picks. Saying he hasn’t addressed these positions or that it’s his fault that some of those guys didn’t live up to expectations ignores the facts of those situations and is, in my mind, scapegoating Al because a person just simply doesn’t like the man and is painting him with the broadest brush possible in order to denigrate him.
Pretty transparent, if you ask me.
June 18th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I agree, I’m not past cirticising him myself but for things he can control. When you show that you’re capable of playing at a high level and you get drafted there. That is all he can do, if he could make players produce he would. No one can they seem to think some GM is going to solve all ills. if that were true every team would have winning records except the Raiders. Scott Pioli was supposed to work wonders in KC and we crushed them for the sweep. Pioli was supposed to be the best GM out there. To be honest I think Mr Davis has doen as good if not a better job in rebiulding the Raiders. Time will tell all but Bill Parcells has done squat in Miami and Homgren is struggling in Cleveland. Those are so-called the best GM’s out there. And to be honest I think he’s outperformed all of them and he stole a starting QB from Shanahan.
But all these guys can see is what the want to see…………..period
June 18th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
tj,
Is Stanford Routt a liar, or is it you?
June 18th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
If you want to look at it case by case ok but the big picture is new coach, new system, players don’t fit into this coach’s plans. Injuries are part of the game you need depth. Drafting players into a system vs just drafting a player the owner likes and shoving it down the throat of a new coach is a no win situation.
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Edward Teach Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Al’s “dysfunction”, as you call it, had nothing to do with Jake Grove’s getting injured over and over. He’s doing the same thing in Miami.
June 18th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
MB,
I addressed it case-by-case because someone made the assertion that Al has ignored the O-line and the defensive tackle position in the recent past, and he hasn’t. I used specific examples of him addressing both. I also mentioned that he has not had the best luck with the O-line guys, and gave examples of that as well.
While I agree that Al sometimes drafts a guy when the coaching staff would prefer someone else, I have a hard time believing that Robert Gallery (the top-rated offensive tackle in his draft class), Jake Grove (also the top-rated player at his position come draft time), and Mario Henderson (a big, athletic tackle who was the starting left tackle for a traditional Southern football power) could have possibly been looked at as bad system fits by the coaching staff, or anyone else.
I address these things case-by-case because too many people in here blame Al for things he shouldn’t be blamed for, and think that being objective and factual is more important than being reactionary.
June 18th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Ed, when you are the GM & owner you take all the blame. Especially when your name is Al Davis. If Al wanted to hire a GM and give that guy 100% control, then that guy would take responsibility, but Al doesn’t want to do that.
June 18th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Oh, so when Al drafts players that turn out to be busts, it’s because he doesn’t have “the best luck” at bringing in players at their particular position. Are you kidding me? “doesn’t have the best luck”? What kind of bush league excuse is that? What other GMs in the game get the luxury of using that excuse? Imagine NE losing 7 years straight and Pioli telling Kraft, “I just haven’t had the best luck”. lol. Ed, I hope the team pays you.
June 18th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Ed, to be fair then, Gruden didn’t have the best luck with QBs in Tampa, right? It’s not because Gruden can’t develop a QB. It’s because he just hasn’t had the best luck acquiring them. If that excuse is good enough for Al, it’s good enough for his adversaries.
June 18th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Blame him if you want to, MB. Given the team needs when the Raiders drafted those players there isn’t a single GM in the league that wouldn’t have done the same thing.
Grove wasn’t injury-prone in college, and was the best center in the draft. Gallery was a dominant left tackle in a conference that is known for producing a lot of good NFL linemen. Mario Henderson, while not having the pedigree of a Grove or a Gallery, played at a high level in a pro-style offense at a big-time college program.
Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. Sometimes a guy gets hurt and you never get to see him do what you hoped he could do. Do a little digging; there are an awful lot of very high draft picks that for one reason or the other don’t do what you think they will in the pros. The situations with Gallery, Grove and Henderson had less to do with the organization’s shortcomings than they did with the players not living up to their potential, in one way or another.
June 18th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Every GM in the league would have drafted Gallery over Larry Fitzgerald or Phillip Rivers, when their number one receiver was an inconsistent Jerry Porter and their QBs were an ancient Rich Gannon and Kerry Collins?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
MB,
I’ve never said that Gruden couldn’t develop a quarterback, and I’m not sure what his role may have been in acquiring one because he wasn’t the general manager in Tampa. I know he had some pretty crappy talent to work with at that position, but he was able to work around Brad Johnson’s limitations and at least score enough points and limit turnovers so that the Buc’s defense could carry the team without the offense hurting the overall effort.
June 18th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Ed, I was the one who brought up the Gruden/QB scenario, not MB.
Basically, if Al Davis has just had “bad luck” bringing in the right player, then so has Gruden, right?
Gruden didn’t dismantle Tampa. He just hasn’t been lucky.
Same with Shannahan in Washington. Just hasn’t had the best luck bringing in the right players. We know that Al Davis, Mike Shannahan, and Jon Gruden are second to none when it comes to player evaluation and development. Men this sharp do not fail. They just have a bad streak of luck. That’s all. You agree?
June 18th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
I don’t ever recall saying that any of those three were “second to none” when it comes to bringing in the right players, so I guess I have to disagree.
What I am saying is that sometimes you bring in players that have great potential based on their college production, and those players seem to be great system fits for your team but for one reason or another it doesn’t work. Same with free agents, and I am happy to see that Al has become more circumspect as regards the players he brings in (or doesn’t).
The original point was the efforts made to bring in good players for the offensive line and defensive tackle positions. The additions of Richard Seymour, Lamaar Houston (who also plays tackle in certain situations and was a DT in college), John Henderson and Desmond Bryant shows that Al does make selections that pay off for the team. Jared Veldheer shows promise at left tackle, and hopefully we get good results from Wisniewski and Barksdale. Matt Shaughnessy, Jacoby Ford, Kamerion Wimbley and Rolando McClain are players at other positions that seem to be capable of contributing positive things to the Raiders as well. I would also mention Darren McFadden and Michael Bush, as well as Marcel Reese. Some in here like Jason Campbell, others don’t, but hard to argue that he’s not an upgrade over the other guys that have been playing QB for the team the past few years.
As I’ve said, there are hits and there are misses. I would say that, while the jury is still out on a couple of these players, the hits outnumber the misses the past few years. All you can ask for when you’re rebuilding.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Edward teach just broke it down for you haters out of.
That was well written. Props to ya bro.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Well, Ed, my point is, Al Davis, Mike Shannahan, and Jon Gruden are all fine evaluators of talent. They’ll all miss from time to time. You win some, you lose some. Injuries happen. It’s football. All kinds of unforeseen things. When these guys do miss, it’s merely bad luck. It has nothing to do with their ability. Tampa fell apart because Gruden just had bad luck with some of the draft picks and acquisitions. They’re all great players, with potential. They just didn’t execute. You can’t blame Gruden. He wasn’t on the field making missing the tackles and dropping the balls. Of course, some cynical people out there would say that Gruden’s the one who drafted those players, so he bares the responsibility. I would never say that, though, because I wouldn’t want anyone to put such a burden on Al. We start saying things like Gruden is a horrible talent evaluator, etc, based on the fact that his players aren’t performing, someone could easily throw that accusation right back at Al Davis. I don’t want that. Glass houses. So, I’m going to say that Gruden got a raw deal in Tampa. He was fired for having bad luck with players. He should still be in the league, like Al Davis, who suffered from the same bad luck in the past 8 years.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Outstanding reason ET! just great reasoning. But you have to remember you’re talking to guys that don’t have much incentive to agree they’re haters. And you know what that means. Any reasonable person would have a hard disagreeing with you. But as I said
“reasonable person”.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
oh tj, your back!
What about Routt making a liar out of you? Is Routt a “hater” too? Do you want to slap him with the swastika tag?
June 18th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
priest, Gruden and Shannahan have just had bad luck recently, too, like Al, right? Surely you’d give them the same benefit of the doubt. Surely you wont’ judge them solely on their results, while concurring with Ed that Al has merely been stricken with bad luck in the past 8 years. Surely Gruden and Shannahan had done just as good of a job as Al, bringing in fine young talent, with great potential, yet that just didn’t work out. Right? Please tell me you’re not going to say that Gruden and Shannahan suck at building teams anymore, based on their results. Because I’d hate to see someone hold Al to such harsh standards.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
tj, if we have a different opinion than you we are “haters” and “unreasonable”? Did you get this line of thinking from the blk panther movement or blk liberation theology, or the Dem party?
June 18th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
We drafted Gallery from a great program with one of top Oline coaches in the country. And Grove was almost as highly rated as Lil’Wiz just a meaner dude to deal with and we got him where I thought we should’ve gotten Li’Wiz in the 3rd. Gallery wasa consensus top3 pick. We had approx. 10 teams try to trade up to get him. Henderson same thing as Grove athletic OT in the same mold as Charles Brown from USC last year drafted in the 2nd. All very solid picks the same as Wiz Barksdale Campbell and Veldheer.
But as you said sometimes you win sometimes you lose. And the Dline picks has been very successful. Most everyone in here wanted fatboy from Bama instead we got LHouston a much better player IMO. And he started as a rookie as did Veldheer and McClain.
I’m not sure what these guys want but any GM in the league would look good with every pick Mr Davis has made outside of DHB.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
I know some will say Russell but Russell was a consensus top5 pick you cannot blame the owner when a kid just doesn’t get it done. Russell even with the garbage that went on here should’ve his part and he would still be here……………..period
June 18th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
priest, actually, no GM in football would have looked good drafting Gallery over Rivers or Fitzgerald.
We had two old QBs, and our number one receiver was Jerry Porter, who was talented yet inconsistent. Definitely not reliable. Either Rivers or Fitzgerald would have been can’t-misses. We had no other choice but to take one of those two. It wasn’t a gamble what Al did, taking Gallery. It wasn’t maverick. It was about the equivalent of trying to hit the ground and roll after falling from a plane instead of opening a parachute.
June 18th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
priest, exactly! You can’t blame Al Davis for Russell not getting it done.
Just like you can’t blame Jon Gruden for Chris Simms or any of his other QBs not getting it done. You can’t blame Jon Gruden for Tampa’s defense getting worse. He wasn’t on the field missing the tackles!
Same with Shannahan over in Washington. It’s not his fault the players aren’t performing. He’s trying as hard as he can, just like Al is over here in Oakland.
Don’t you agree?
June 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
tj, lets break down those exotic zone schemes we run so frequently, do you have any still photos ?
June 18th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Al Davis has never truly used a zone defense. His teams are built for man. He’ll let his defensive coordinator use a cover 2 scheme or something like that for one game. Of course we’ll get torched, because our players are trained for man. Then Al will say, “see, cover 2 didn’t work”. That’s what he did to Kiffin. It’s an old trick. It’s what companies do to get rid of people they don’t like, or avoid promoting someone they don’t like who’s up for review. They’ll put him in an unwinnable situation, and use the results as a reason to deny them. It’s caught up to Al. This is why no real coach will come near Oakland anymore.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
I think it’s pretty funny how when Al does “the right thing”, it kinda backfires on him.
Of course Gallery was “the right” pick to make at the time. How can anyone not remember the need at LT. Gallery was supposed to be a HOF LT entrenched at that spot for YEARS. Talk about a BUST!!!!
If only we had gone with one of thethe 4.3 athletic freaks that Al is “supposed” to always covet.
Same with the Jamarcus Russell pick. We passed up the “typical” Davis pick in Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson to go with a QB.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Unless you have a monstrously talented defense, like a 2000 Ravens D, you have to use a base cover 2 defense in today’s NFL. Players have talked about how bizarre it is to come and play defense in Oakland, including Rod Woodson. Yes, I know he’s with the team now. But his words are his words. He expressed so much when he was with ESPN. The Raiders play so much man, even their own defenders just sort of look at each other and wonder why. They don’t get it. It’s a cover 2 league. Its as if they Raiders want to lose. That’s the feeling defensive backs have when they come to Oakland.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson are NOT typical Davis picks. Both are true football players with football skills, and even lack in some areas of agility. Al Davis is all physical attributes with his backs and receives. They can have zero football talent whatsoever, as long as they’re freakish physical specimens who can run and jump. That’s why Al took DHB over Crabtree. Crabtree is a reliable set of hands. But he can’t run as fast as DHB. That’s it.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
God Al’s worshipers are so full of it it’s unbelievable. Where is the end? Peterson and C. Johnson “typical Davis picks”? lmfao. Do they think anyone is dumb enough to believe that?
June 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Raider (or MaddenRaider) the reason Mr. Davis picked DHB over Crabtree is that DHB isn’t a hard-headed, selfish diva type that wants glory and not a team player. Plus, with our running game the Raiders need receivers that will go downfield and block (unlike Crabtree).
June 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Start with Calvin Johnson of Georgia Tech. If Randy Moss is called The Freak, Johnson should be called Super Freak. Surprise filled the media room at the Indianapolis scouting combine Friday when Johnson revealed that he recorded 239 pounds at his combine weigh-in, about 12 pounds more than anyone expected. Minds flashed to Mike Williams’ failures with the Lions.
Then, Johnson said he would wait until his March 15 workout at Georgia Tech to let everyone see his speed. Toying with the minds of scouts and the laws of reality, Johnson changed his mind. He borrowed a pair of running shoes and ran the 40-yard dash in an incredible 4.35 seconds on Sunday. Because Johnson is 6-foot-5 and 239 pounds, cornerbacks around the NFL must have cringed when they heard that.
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I thought Al Davis liked guys that looked good coming off the bus and ran 4.3’s?
June 18th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
You’re right Jhill bothe CJ and AP are the supposed Height weight speed guys ONLY HE covets. As if those types are of interest to anyone else but him. Evergy GM in the business with a brain is looking for the same players thus the combine. What do they do at the combine but measure your height weight and speed.
Those that don’t measure up drop in the draft…………..period
June 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Or else Tom Brady and Joe Montana would’ve been taken higher. They just didn’t measure up they both had significant shortcomings in some highly regarded aspect talent wise. Evethough both were pretty skilled.
Drew Brees had been 2 inches taller he would’ve been a high 1st rnd pick.
June 18th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Mike Mamula a 1st rnd pick was a workout Warrior with non-descript talent didn’t do much in college but he ran fast tore it up in workouts instead of getting drafted in the 6th which is where he should’ve gone he was drafted in the 1st rnd. Made a lot of money and didn’t do squat else “height weight speed”.
June 18th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
evening nation!! can somebody give me a valid argument/explanation on why they think nnamdi will not be a raider nxt year. excluding priest.
June 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Looks like the market isn’t bearing out for Nnamdi like his agent thought it would.
If Philly isn’t going after him, what playoff team is he going to play for that is going to offer him more $ thank Al will/has?
June 18th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
exactly j hill, but regardless if philly goes after him or not, all these so called analysts are foolish if they think al is really gonna let nnamdi walk. this is what al dreams of, two cbs that can cover man well, physical, tall, quick and fast. he has that in nnam and routt juss like he did with lester and haynes back in 83. i highly doubt al will let nnamdi go, routts finally emerged and nnamdi’s the best cb, his is what al wanted and its foolish if people really think that al davis is going to let nnamdi go and dominate with another team, i bet he regrets it with woodson and i bet he aint gonna let the same happen to nnamdi.
June 18th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Because #21 isn’t ALL that just like I been saying.
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J Hill Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Looks like the market isn’t bearing out for Nnamdi like his agent thought it would.
June 18th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
tj, you dont want to talk zone defense vs man defense ?
June 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Owners, Players, Nfl & NFLPA will announce this coming week all have reached a working agreement.
Coach Davis will be an instrumental key factor in this resolution and that fact alone will bother a certain element of this blog.
None the less, look for JerryMac to break this story.
June 18th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Now in the event a working agreement is not reached, a certaian element of this blog will remain indifferent weather or not Coach played no part in a resolution. Some, such as Mr. and all his cross-posting aka’s, would just as soon not see Coach get any credit for a resolution.
June 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
But most of us want to move forward, this country needs to move forward, and the season must begin on time so the Raiders can march on towards another Lombardi. Something San Diego or Seattle have never achieved.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
I’m not nearly as worried about the season as I was 3 weeks ago it is just the way I feel. Something just came over me and said they’re getting heavy pressure from certain owners to settle the dispute. All of a sudden the news broke that secret meetings being held and then the agreement to start kicking out the lawyers to talk more direct. Since i had that feeling things are going great and a season starting on time seems like a certainty.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_18308112
‘Oakland Raiders’ Taiwan Jones takes unconventional journey to NFL’
Jones’ exploits prompted Hansen to create a new stat: how many tacklers a ball carrier made miss and yards gained after such misses. In one game against Montana, Jones racked up 16 for 168 yards.
“Montana was the best-tackling team in our conference, and Taiwan is making them look stupid,” Hansen said.
Things won’t be any different in the NFL, Hansen said.
“He’s going to make those guys look stupid, too,” Hansen said. “When he gets into the secondary in the NFL, he’s also going to make those guys miss.”
Jones said he isn’t sure how he will be used by the Raiders. Even so, he is certain that he has the kind of skill set that can’t be overlooked.
“I’m a real versatile player,” Jones said. “I can return kicks, catch passes, block. I’ll do whatever it takes to help the team. I’ll work as hard as I can to reach my goal of playing in the NFL.”
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Make this kid our new Kickoff/Punt Returner along with Jacoby Ford. Sounds like this has the makings of being the best Kick returning duo in the NFL…
June 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
You know I was reading up on Pryor and it donned on me that if a few teams like the niners and the Pat’s and maybe a few others had known that Pryor would be available in the supplemental draft they wouldn’t have drafted the QB’s they did. Not saying they don’t like the players they chose just saying they might have preferred not taking them so high because if you add Pryor to that draft it’s a QB rich draft.
Would the Niners have traded up to get Kappy if Pryor was in that draft? Or would the Pat’s have taken Mallett over Pryor or vice versa? If the Raiders do get Pryor say in the 3rd I think that is much better than Kappy in the 2nd. The Niners just might be kicking themselves and the Raiders just might be getting a QB just as good or better for a cheaper price based on where they draft him if they draft him.
This could very well have worked out bigtime if we can get this kid. Sit him and coach him up liek Chad said you may have a helluva players 3 years from now. Just saying!!
June 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
priesttj Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Stak he aint supposed to do a dman thing he doesn’t want to do. Getting a GM isn’t the be all to end all he will still run the draft. Also even if he did hire a GM half you dumbells will say he has no say in anything so what’s the point???
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You probably shouldn’t be calling others dumbells when it’s clear you need the point explained to you.
I stated only a fool would state you have to automatically love the owner if you support a team.
You raised your hand and said “you don’t like Al, find another team” making it pretty clear to everyone who the fool is.
Act like a man, instead of an infatuated child, who doesn’t want to disappoint Daddy, regardless of what he does or how he acts.
Al’s not your Daddy, which means their isn’t really an umbilical cord to cut.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
ArmChair several made that comment when we got the kid. If you watch his film he looks like Jamaal Charles he has some sewrious skills. His openfield moves are right up there with DMC’s I’m not kidding this kid has exceptional talent. Why he lasted until the 4th is a mystery to me. He runs with very good balance and footwork when he bounces it outside it’s with blazing speed you have a split second to get your hands on him if you miss and he gets into your secondary………he’s gone. He will outrun angles very similar to DMC. He doesn’t have DMC’s power but his first step reminds you of Nap Kaufman he’s at full speed by his 4-5 stride. He has a legit spin move with explosion it’s hard to understand what teams didn’t like. If it’s his fumbling what a grave mistake that would be. It’s one of the easiest things to fix. AP fumbled a lot in college and so did DMC in fact Nap did too not as much but he did because of his wrist.
I think Ford and TJ out is space may be as good as there is Ford’s first step is better than TJ’s and that isn’t even talking about DMC. I think teams will have a lot of sleepless nights when they see the kind of raw speed the Raiders posses.
If DHB develops this could be the single fastest team the Raiders have ever fielded.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
And Pryor in the 3rd is preferable to Kap in the second?
Dude, you are trippin.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Make this kid our new Kickoff/Punt Returner along with Jacoby Ford. Sounds like this has the makings of being the best Kick returning duo in the NFL…
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guy can ball, but the best duo?
Little premature
June 18th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Stak IMO you calling yourself a real Raider fan because you don’t like the owner sounds ultra foolish to me. Why concern yourself with him and his team? He biult this present team from the ground up if you don’t like him how is you like the team? You don’t know him personally so you only know his work. If you are willing to spend time or money on his product IMO you like him. Or else why bother get another team……..simple! You’re drawing pleasure from what he does don’t you get it?
When he’s no longer the focal point of this team it would make sense until skidaddle.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
What does Kappy do that Pryor doesn’t?? man Kappy was thought of as a 4th rnd pick all these QB’s were chosen much higher then the rated out. Pryor is every bit as talented as Kappy anyone that doesn’t think so is the one who’s trippin’. Thanks for listening.
June 18th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Most everyone in here says they hate the owner but they spend endless hours appreciating his work. Sounds ass backwards to me.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
You probably should read posters comments if you are going to reply to them, Priestj.
Didn’t say I’m a real fan because i don’t like the owner, did I?
Here’s my comment:
Stak Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Hey, I’m not down with a lot of things the front office does, but I’m a fan of the Raiders.
IMO, I don’t agree with anyone who says you like the team, so you have tolike the front office.
Or that the front office is having problems so now a fan has an excuse to stop supporting the team.
You don’t want to support the team?
fine, just don’t call yourself a fan. it’s insulting to the real fans
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June 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
As you can see, my comment was that I thought people are fakeazz fans who say they don’t support the team because of the owner.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
As far as trippin about Kappy?
Didn’t you say you definitely wanted the Raiders to move up and get Kappy?
Wasn’t that you?
Now you’re acting like he’s squat, and that Pryor is easily as good?
Yeah, you’re trippin, big time.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Most everyone in here says they hate the owner but they spend endless hours appreciating his work. Sounds ass backwards to me.
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priest,
i appreciate al davis and what he did for the raiders but im also very tired of him. us raider fans have every right to bash on al davis, for what hes done for the past 7 years, moving the franchise from its beloved oakland fan base, meddling in the gameplanning and not letting coaches doing their job, incorporating vanilla defense, making irrational decisions like always drafting speed, and being a senile old man and not hiring a gm and being involved in day to day operations. I overall like al davis mainly for what he did for the raider franchise turning them around in ‘63 and turning them into winners and how he symbolizes the raider image and the raiders vs nfl which is what the raiders are. raider fans have every right to hate al davis for what he’s done for the past 7 years and moving the team but we still appreciate al davis because of what he’s done for the raiders and his love for the team. so stfu priest and please stop ur excessive al davis dik riding.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Good analysis on T Jones Priest.
I agree with you 100%
I know we say this almost every year, but when they ever resolve this lockout situation, I just feel really good about the Raiders this season…
June 18th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
There nothing with criticizing his work when it warrants it. But HATE is a very strong word I wouldn’t hate anyone over sports but you people do. If you think he shouldn’t have bad stretches I’ll just say your ignorant of how tough it is to win in this league. This is anything every team in sports hasn’t gone through to one degree or another. But it’s a herd mentality. It’s stupid IMO but it is what it is!
Sports is al about the ups and downs if you don’t like losing you shouldn’t be a sports fan because eventually all teams will lose. Grown up fans understand that meely mouth infants don’t. It’s all about what you do when you’re losing to get better. But todays fans are just in it for the good times so they can brag. I’m in for the long haul and sometimes you lose to get better. But I get it, people are basically very selfish and into what they want and most are absolutely clueless about what it takes to win they just want to whine and cry. Not my kind of I don’t like crybabies.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
As far as Kappy is concerned I love the kid but I also know this late rush to draft those kids was unreasonable. Maybe it was the lack of FA available I don’t know but the Niners paid a hefty price for a kid who may not be ready for a coupld of years to carry that franchise. The same is true with Pryor he’s just not ready I knew Kappy would go higher than he should and I would’ve used the 2nd rnd pick for him but not trade up I really didn’t like that idea. Love the player though. However as I look at Pryor having not studied him before the draft I spent all my time studying those eligible Pryor is really talented. He’s just raw as far as technigue is concerned everything else is there. The kid can throw it and run it has good patience in the pocket and throws a very catchable pass. He just needs coaching but he’s every bit as good as Kappy no doubt in my mind.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
How can you say Niners paid a hefty price when you yourself were pounding the drum for the Raiders to do exactly wht the Niners did, which was trade up to get Kappy?
Did GB overpay for Rogers to sit?
It’s a crap shoot. No one knows. You draft. You sign. You pay. You find out if it works.
Way it is.
If Kappy shines in two years, which is how long most qb’s at least need to get their feet wet, you think anyone cares what was paid?
We’re looking at who for our qb of the future?
exactly.
June 18th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
There nothing with criticizing his work when it warrants it. But HATE is a very strong word I wouldn’t hate anyone over sports but you people do. If you think he shouldn’t have bad stretches I’ll just say your ignorant of how tough it is to win in this league. This is anything every team in sports hasn’t gone through to one degree or another. But it’s a herd mentality. It’s stupid IMO but it is what it is!
Sports is al about the ups and downs if you don’t like losing you shouldn’t be a sports fan because eventually all teams will lose. Grown up fans understand that meely mouth infants don’t. It’s all about what you do when you’re losing to get better. But todays fans are just in it for the good times so they can brag. I’m in for the long haul and sometimes you lose to get better. But I get it, people are basically very selfish and into what they want and most are absolutely clueless about what it takes to win they just want to whine and cry. Not my kind of I don’t like crybabies.
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HATE is indeed a powerful word and in the sports world its warranted for people like Al davis.in terms with sports i use hate but that doesnt necessarily mean i hate al davis personally like i know him because i dont so me hating him is strictly from a sports perspective you idiot. yeah every team in sports have bad stretches but none have had stretches where the owners have dictator like control of the team and meddlers like al davis. please priest think about what you’re saying cuz you consistently continue to talk pure lunacy. “if u dont like losing u shouldnt be a sports fan?” what the hell if u dnt like WINNING you shouldnt be a sports fan! and as far as im concerned when you lose consistently for 7 years marred by bad personnel decisions, bad draft picks, constant meddling in the team by the owner and all that stuff u alienate a lot of fans and most nfl fans havent had that except for the raider fans. Fans? you dont know that “most are absolutely clueless about what it takes to win they whine and cry” cuz u dont know MOST the fans. priest once again use some damn logic and use some damn FACTS whenever u post cuz all of this fake insight you post is an example of an al davis dikrider and all your posts are asinine with no facts at all. come on at least be relevant whenever u say stuff.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Well son bottom line is you’re just like most fans nowadays whinning and crying is your specialty. Al Davis knows more football than anyone in that organization and call it meddling. I call it managing when he screws up it’s his responsibility to fix it.
Everyone goes through bad stretches some worse than others. To be honest I couldn’t care less how you feel you IMO you sound like the usual crybaby in here. 7 years is nothing some teams have lost for 3-4 decades it happens. I like the chase I’m not a fairweather whinning child like you. The truth is you’re just like all the rest of these lowlifes clueless loudmouths.
I’ll take Al Davis over 90% of the owners in sports at least he give sit everything he has. Sometimes it just doesn’t work.
So IMO you’re just as lame as all the others…..don’t let the door hit cha where the good Lord split cha’ Get OUT!!
June 18th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
573.RAIDER Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson are NOT typical Davis picks. Both are true football players with football skills, and even lack in some areas of agility. Al Davis is all physical attributes with his backs and receives. They can have zero football talent whatsoever, as long as they’re freakish physical specimens who can run and jump. That’s why Al took DHB over Crabtree. Crabtree is a reliable set of hands. But he can’t run as fast as DHB. That’s it.
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so then what the hell is mcfadden? great measurables and football skills. if calvin johnson is in the same draft as dhb i have a hard time believing that al picks dhb over megatron. good point about crabs but he is not even close to megatron. i dont believe al is THAT crazy. i would have to see that to believe it.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Every game that’s played there are winners and losers someyimes a tie. Losing is part of sports always has been alwys will be. In order to be a fan you have to take both no one wins all the time.
Can’t stand these pissy lil sissies always whinning.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Armond we all were upset over the DHB pick but it was obvious they wouldn’t take Crabtree because of what he said b4 the draft. And to be honest DHB tore it up in prodays and the combine that’s why he was elevated to 1st rnd status and they liked what they saw when he came to visit twice. Hey!! he hasn’t been great but the kid is very young yet. So we’ll see what he does this year.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
taiwan jones is our best open field runner hands down. he would stop teams from kicking away from ford and he could return punts. just another bullet in the chamber. would love to get osi but lil brien is trippin givin up a 2nd rndr, shawny and kelly for him. we dont need to give up that much for osi. if a high pick isnt enuff then fugg it. i believe shawny can be a double digit sack guy if he is allowed enuff snaps. dude had 7 last year as a part time starter. still cant get over how trevor scott was starting over him especially when matt was the starter in the preseason.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Armond how bout them A’s mayne???
June 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
T Scott may be history Armond he struggled badly vs the run and he’s just not as good off the edge as I thought he would be.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
my point is how we supposedly dont draft football players. he said megatron is a football guy that al doesnt like but dmc is the same kind of player. if calvin is in the draft instead of crabs we aint pickin dhb. that was my point priest. dhb may get better but he needs to take a huge leap. we need him to get 60-70 rec and 1000 yds with 7-10 tds. thats the only way for people to get off his back. if he has that kind of year then this offense will pretty damn good and exciting.
June 18th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
the A’s beating the midgets is always a good thing. still hate the owners and billy beane. the moneyball movie can kiss my azz. only way i see that bs is for free on tv. wheres jfb when u need him?
June 18th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Armond the owner is the owner but Beane has got to get it together his first step in doing that was Melvin. It was huge firing Geren, I was just listening to a player talk about how relaxed it is now and you can see it on the field.
I think it’s only going to get better Beane is all of a sudden under pressure to perform. The extended grace period is over.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
As far as DHB I just think he’s going about everything the right way sooner or later it’s going to pay off. The kid is a much better player than he has shown so far. JMHO!!
June 18th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Armond Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
taiwan jones is our best open field runner hands down. he would stop teams from kicking away from ford and he could return punts. just another bullet in the chamber. would love to get osi but lil brien is trippin givin up a 2nd rndr, shawny and kelly for him. we dont need to give up that much for osi. if a high pick isnt enuff then fugg it. i believe shawny can be a double digit sack guy if he is allowed enuff snaps. dude had 7 last year as a part time starter. still cant get over how trevor scott was starting over him especially when matt was the starter in the preseason.
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agree wit u on taiwan, kids a beast and makes people miss with an array of moves with speed, agility and elusiveness. as for shaughnessy not starting, cable was coach, only reason why he wasnt starting.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Armond Says:
June 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
taiwan jones is our best open field runner hands down. he would stop teams from kicking away from ford and he could return punts. just another bullet in the chamber. would love to get osi but lil brien is trippin givin up a 2nd rndr, shawny and kelly for him. we dont need to give up that much for osi. if a high pick isnt enuff then fugg it. i believe shawny can be a double digit sack guy if he is allowed enuff snaps. dude had 7 last year as a part time starter. still cant get over how trevor scott was starting over him especially when matt was the starter in the preseason.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
priest too bad my post for your previous comment didnt show up i would write it again but its too long and wouldve blown your a** to smithereens
June 18th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Boy now I’m scared…………..lol
Listen son it’s the way you guys think nowadays, it’s not my way but it’s all you guys know.
Armond man don’t think I’m excusing the owner it’s just that we all know what he’s up to. That’s why I say what I say about Mr Davis 60% of owners either have no clue or don’t care. The rest care don’t know how to approach their situation to make it better and they go decades b4 they luck up on someone to help them. Like Mr Art Rooney some think he was great owner, but he went almost 40 years before they started to win. He was just a rich football fan and owned a team. Just like Dan Snyder spend millions on crap because he has no clue.
Bob Kraft got lucky and Pat Bowlen same thing. Most owners care they’re just clueless and that how I see the A’s owners plain clueless so they do what they know to do.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
priest i have no idea what point u r making. im sayin dhb wouldnt be drafted over calvin johnson. do u think al davis would take dhb over megatron? i dont think he would. as for beane i gave up on him a long time ago. i always thought he was overrated. the rooneys went 26 years in between titles and the packers went almost 30.
all teams have lapses and the raiders wont be the last.
several teams never won it. snyder has ruined what was once a proud and respected franchise. now the skins r a joke. i dont really get into the al davis stuff cuz i know it wont change. i just want some damn football so we have some real things to talk about. its dry as hell in here now.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
tazz i completely agree about cable starting scott over shawny. never understood that move at all.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Armond if Calvin Johnson were available when we drafted DHB, DHB would’ve been an afterthought. Actually the decision to draft Russell over CJ was an 11th hour decision. It was that close we just needed a QB in the worse way. But he really liked CJ it was damn near a coin toss.
DHB would never have even been considered inn that equation……….period
June 19th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Armond I was distracted that’s why it took so long to get waht yiu were asking me. But no that goes without saying that’s probably why I skimmed over it. Because you answered it.
June 19th, 2011 at 3:29 am
Happy Fathers Day
June 19th, 2011 at 4:23 am
Happy Fathers Day to you and to me!
June 19th, 2011 at 4:46 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPYUhork8rU
June 19th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Re: those suggesting Al gives the OL enough love. Last two drafts he has. But before then? Go back x years, and all he did was draft DBs and WRs predominantly. We had Mario Henderson as the only OL drafted, and in the middle rounds. You have to go back to Gallery to see Al take a first rounder.
The OL has for many years been patched together with cast-off vet FAs and cheap talentless OL. The OL especially ignored in years we’re trying to get Marques Tuiasosopo, Andrew Walter, then Russell as franchise QBs. And we saw how pathetic those OLs were year after year.
Bringing in busts like Kwawe Harris because he’s cheap and a former first rounder.
But watch Al throw tens of millions at speedy WRs and CBs draft after draft. We passed on so many top caliber first and 2nd round OL, for the high risk athlete.
It’s especially bizarre given Al’s preference for vertical passing, 7 step drops. The #1 thing before WR and even QB is a killer OL that can provide the protection required to even perform such a game-plan.
Compare Raiders picks with teams like Vikings, Steelers, etc. They’re investing MOST of their picks on OL/DL. Apart from last two drafts, we’ve been taking 1 OL if lucky.
The SB winning Cowboys attained their killer OL from late rounders, so it’s not all about throwing first rounders at OL, but the FOCUS of picks hasn’t been OL for many years. If there are 7 picks, picking 3-4 per draft, keep pushing the OL/DL standard up and up.
Our number 1 and 2 weak-links as a team and statistically for the last 10 years has been pass protection and run-defense. Ie, OL and DT.
Henderson in his twilight years doesn’t justify a song and dance. Seymour was a great trade yes. And the last two years drafts of Houston, Veldheer, Wiz, Campbell, Barksdale has been exactly what i’m saying….a BELATED attention given. But it should be something we do every year. Just like if you keep drafting 3 CBs per draft youre continually raising the standard of that depth chart, stiff competition, worst get phased out.
June 19th, 2011 at 8:35 am
GG, good post Bruh…Building both trenches thur the draft can and will equate to wins. Trenchmen are the new skill players of the NFL….
June 19th, 2011 at 8:37 am
This draft even…
Wiz, Barksdale….but the rest of the way…..HB, CB, CB, WR, WR, TE
Asomugha possibly going, ok those CBs were required, but more WRs? Another HB? You just invested a ton of cash on DHB in the first round cos he “had to have him”. In time Jones and Moore could be favorite Raiders players etc, but the point is there. Why not 2 more OL and another DT? Henderson cant be relied on, another one to push the standard up.
What about the years before that when we did have Asomugha we still kept drafting 2-3 DBs and 2-3 WRs. Passing up on OL and DT in the latter rounds to take speedy athletes. Yes, they’re gambles, taking a flier on them. But why not have a taste for taking fliers on OL/DT. Salivate over big strong tall athletic linemen. Make that a focus.
As many analysts and people here have said….for as great as Asomugha is, it ALL starts and ends at the LOS. Losing Asomugha will lower our ability to cover one side of the field, but it’s not going to affect whether we win or lose. How they’ve/you’ve said converting Asomugha’s salary cap expense to get 3-4 more players who can contribute elsewhere.
June 19th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Thec07 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 8:35 am
GG, good post Bruh…Building both trenches thur the draft can and will equate to wins. Trenchmen are the new skill players of the NFL….
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Yep, thanks. And it’s not a cliche line, something one reads/hears and repeats to try to sound smart, etc. It’s just the truth and everyone knows it. Suspend all the Al Davis genius affection. I love Al as much as fanboys like Priestt. But the trenches is the #1, the foundation of all that is football. Everything stems from the ability/inability of both lines.
June 19th, 2011 at 8:56 am
GG if you look at the Dline and Oline it’s almost always 3-4 players every year yeah there may be an off year or two but as the standard goes he’s drafting now the same way he’s been drafting for 40 years. All you guys ever do is take a snap shot and draw a conclusion. This man has biult some the great Olines in history. He’s done it over and over again sometimes we’re lacking in other areas and he’ll focus there whether those players pan out or not is a different conversation. The bottom line is the last 2 years is nothing new. stop trying to act like you know something about football that he doesn’t he’s forgotten more football then most of us collectively will ever know. I’ve watched the man do his thing for 40 years now you snot nosed punks want to act like you know something shut the hell up.
June 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I watched this game grow from one era to the next I watched in person live yet you got young ignorant loud mouths still wet behind the ears think they know something. I have kids older than some of you I’ve been around some of the greatest minds to ever do it. I watched them biuld from the ground up. Up close and personal try tell you ignorant rascal something but youu can’t hear because your mouth is always running……shut up and listen for a change.
June 19th, 2011 at 9:09 am
You’re a bit loopy Priestt. Borderline like a religious fanatic/extremist. You have no concept of constructive criticism or people discussing/debating football as equals and as fans. You just want people to shut up and not speak, but instead want to take the soap box at all times and preach how you know football better than everyone else because you’re old and/or happened to ’see’ Al close up or whatever. You probably don’t even realize this or see the mirror.
Yada yada al is a genius forgot more about football yada yada…yeah we all know and love Al. Some may some may not. But everyone acknowledges Al is a great man.
However, despite all Al’s genius, he acknowledges he makes mistakes, and many GMs and coaches do things that show Al isn’t the best at everything 24/7 & 365. Al has commandeered a bunch of sub-par years for decades, which means he’s made mistakes. And which also means anyone from an analyst to a fan could have said something that “should/could”ve done that would have been better, and they’d have been right in hindsight. You don’t have to be a GM/Owner otherwise you can’t comment on football, or can’t say something that ends up being better than what a GM/Owner did.
That goes league-wide, not just Al. Millions of fans have been saying a ton of intelligent stuff about how J.Jones or M.Brown or D.Snyder should/could’ve done better and they’d have been right.
June 19th, 2011 at 9:10 am
TJ, Who are you pointing your rage at Bruh? I have Been a member of the NATION since 1970…
June 19th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I watched this game grow from one era to the next I watched in person live yet you got young ignorant loud mouths still wet behind the ears think they know something. I have kids older than some of you I’ve been around some of the greatest minds to ever do it. I watched them biuld from the ground up. Up close and personal try tell you ignorant rascal something but youu can’t hear because your mouth is always running……shut up and listen for a change.
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Clown!
June 19th, 2011 at 10:10 am
As I posted earlier. Been a fan since 1970
win,lose,or tie…..
Been a season tix holder since 96′
I think I qualify as a bonified fan.
Tj is talking to these 20somethings in hear. I think.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:11 am
GG constructive criticism is one thing calling the man names and making as if you know something he doesn’t is very different. He makes mistakes like any other human being. He has made some atrocious decisions in recent years. He never should’ve hired Kiffin, the Larry Brown signing was a huge mistake. Taking DHB that early IMO was a huge reach. He’s not infallable he’s a flawed man like the rest of us. But what irks me is when ignorant people like YOU acty as if he doesn’t know how to biuld a team something he’s been doing his entire life IMO is laughable. You barely know how to pee straight yet he’s an idiot.
Constuctive criticism is useful but you guys are like 3 year olds telling their father he’s stupid. He doesn’t know what he’s doing that’s the way you come off to me. You barely know who the guy is to be talking the way you do. Constructive criticism isn’t what goes on in here it’s anything BUT THAT……………period
June 19th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989!
If he knew how to build a team anymore he would have done so……..period
June 19th, 2011 at 10:22 am
When did I call him an idiot? You like putting words in people’s mouths to THEN spin it so you can post those kinds of posts above.
I was the one who pointed out Al makes mistakes, like every other owner does. I was the one who said DHB was a bad decision, passing up OL, and that after already taking DHB and blowing millions, it’s a mistake to keep drafting WRs, after supposedly drafting his guy (DHB). Then you got on your high horse dissing me. BUT THEN, now you post acknowledgment that he did indeed make mistakes as I mentioned. But then you give yourself the right to say, “i priestt can say he makes mistakes, and mention his mistakes, and what he couldve done better, and that’s okay, because im priestt, but you and you and you are not allowed to say he makes mistakes and mention his mistakes and what he couldve done better, because you’re not priestt”.
Now that’s idiotic.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
GG you’re arguing with a brick wall.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
You guys want to make as if I worship the guy is IMO silly.
At least I’m smart enough not to expect damn near perfection form an obvious imperfect man. You go on and on about the losing as if he’s NOT ALLOWED to lose he’s not supposed to EVER go through a slump. EVERYONE does he’s no different something like the last 10 years was BOUND to happen at some point. And it did and hlf you have heartattacks because of it………….IT’S JUST SPORTS!!! there are winners and losers in virtually every game. He’s going to lose tooo he’s going to make mistakes it happens to the best of us. IT’S CALLED LIFE!!!!
June 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
You guys want to make as if I worship the guy is IMO silly.
At least I’m smart enough not to expect damn near perfection form an obvious imperfect man.
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There’s hasn’t been any “damn near perfection either”, Clown
June 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Any General Manager with a 43% winning percentage over 23 years, should be Fired!
June 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
something like the last 10 years was BOUND to happen at some point. And it did and hlf you have heartattacks because of it………….IT’S JUST SPORTS!!!
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Oh, so it’s no big deal, now? Is that why you’re in here every day relentlessly defending Al? Because it’s “just sports”? It’s small in the grand scheme of things?
June 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
lol. Yeah, priest. We don’t exactly expect perfection from Al, anymore. Basically we just want him to be as good as the middle third these days.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Any burnt-out 82 year old General Manager with a winning percentage of 43% over the last 23 years, and who can’t even remember his Head Coache’s name, should be Fired!
June 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I talk about his mistakes with a lot of guys in here, ET, Lefty12, Jhill and Bauce and many others. But you GG think you know something he doesn’t and it comes off laughable to me.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am
FFS priestt, you really are off with the fairies. High on your own self-love.
If you go back to my very first post in this thread, and every post since, everything i said was respectful towards al, didnt call him names, recognized his greatness and legacy, etc, but broached the topic of OL/DT as areas that i wish/hope al would focus on more every draft.
You’re so high with the fairies, you go off and spin it all, just so you can try to one-up a fellow Raider National, can’t sit back and treat people with respect and equality.
Let’s not forget your J.Russell nonsense you kept up with for years. Your head completely in the sand purely to defend al blindly at all costs. And beyond that, when davis himself cast off that Russell loser, you STILL kept defending Russell to defend your own butt, totally contradicting your blind defending of al in the process, who finally knew/understood first-hand (that you never have) that Russell was a lost cause.
Let’s also not forget the night I schooled you on the Saints playbook and Air Coryell. Several years ago. You thinking Al invented football, forward passes, vertical passing, and thought the Saints ran an Al davis playbook, when really like many many teams in the NFL, they run a lot of variety, packages, and that includes a lot of vertical stuff too. It’s the same as saying Mike Martz’ bears offense is al davis’, or that al davis invented it all, when Don Coryell did and Al learned it from him, just like many other coaches learned it from D.Coryell and continue to run facets of that system etc.
Because you rub people the wrong way, try to always personalize debates as a “i know more than you, im old and wise youre young and stupid” then you only incite animosity towards you. It’s also silly of you to assume everyone here is 13-20 years of age. To assume i am. Little you know.
Btw, the #1 thing i hate is when anyone says to anyone else “im more of a fan than you”. I always reply the same way…..it’s like someone saying because you’re a christian today then you have no idea about christianity or christ unless you were there when the romans were feeding them to the lions.
Age has nothing to do with it. Many fans are very astute and knowledgable even as younger girls and boys who started following the game say 10 years ago, many fans are dullards even if they’re older women and men who started following the game 40 years ago.
You only have to look at the world of football coaching itself. It’s like saying all the 30-40 yo coaches in the NFL (or even in amateur leagues) are stupid and have no understanding of football because they’re that age, younger than you.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
650.priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
I talk about his mistakes with a lot of guys in here, ET, Lefty12, Jhill and Bauce and many others. But you GG think you know something he doesn’t and it comes off laughable to me
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You come off as a Bootlicking Clown to a lot of people except the other Bootlickers, like Bauce.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
RAIDER Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
GG you’re arguing with a brick wall.
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Indeed! I shall cease engaging him after that long post above.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
653.GG Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Indeed! I shall cease engaging him after that long post above.
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A lot classier than I would have done it.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:57 am
priest, you rarely, rarely talk about Al’s mistakes. And when you do, you downplay them.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am
A lot of Al’s worshipers in here will pretend they’re critical of Al, then in practically the same breath, they shill for him and give you the company line. They don’t fool me.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am
GG look man when you first posted it seemed to me you were saying we don’t focus on Oline and Dline. I replied we have it doesn’t always work to perfection. No matter how good you are as a GM you cannot read someones mind and predict the future. That’s how DHB’s and thing like that happen. Sure he shouldn’t have done it BLASTED him in for it and so did most people.
Constructive criticism is part of being a fan, I get tired of these young chumps who come in here assuming they know something. Just because they saw the last 10 years. I enjoy a good football discussion just like anyone else.
I have to admit sometimes I do lump soem of you in witgh taht crowd and sometimes unfairly so if I do so wrongly. Hey! I’ll admit it and my apologies to those I wrongly offended. I guess in my old age i’m getting a bit agitated quicker than I used to.
Apologies to those I offended unwittingly.
June 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Well I try to be as respectful and amicable with everyone. Im not here to brag, or try to gain points. Just discuss/debate Raiders and football with everyone else, and always try to maintain civility. Can’t expect that from everyone. Priestt is priestt i guess. I usually just ignore the trolls and bad manners, it’s the internet after all, no point getting all worked up. Sometimes one has to fight back tho when theyre being attacked or someone deserves to have something said to them. Which ive done now. So like RAIDER said, beyond that it’s just banging a head against a wall.
June 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
^ that in reply to KoolKell.
June 19th, 2011 at 11:03 am
GG son as far as Al Davis’ offense their is NO SUCH THING!!! I’ve never said anyone runs his offense because he doesn’t HAVE ONE. The verticle game is Sid Gilman’s, Big Al was doing what he learned from Sid. Yeah they may have added a few rinkles here and there. But that offense pur and simple b elongs to Sid Gilman………..period
June 19th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Any burnt-out 82 year old General Manager with a winning percentage of 43% over the last 23 years, and who can’t even remember his Head Coache’s name, should be Fired!……period!
June 19th, 2011 at 11:04 am
priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am
GG look man when you first posted it seemed to me you were saying we don’t focus on Oline and Dline. I replied we have it doesn’t always work to perfection.
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So, priest, the same can be said of teams you don’t like, right? Coaches around the league you hate? Former coaches? How about Gruden? It’s not that Gruden didn’t focus on defense when he was in Tampa. It just didn’t work to perfection, that’s all.
Same with Shannahan’s failures in Washington. It’s not that he hasn’t focused on building a good team. It just hasn’t come to perfection.
I mean, if Al’s failures merely fall short of perfection, that same standard is applied to all GMs and coaches, right? Even those Davis enemies like Gruden and Shannahan?
June 19th, 2011 at 11:06 am
That’s a good post, priestt. Big of you to say that. I wasnt here to create a fight. You and everyone should know by now i just love all Raider Nation, have some intelligent discussion, good civil arguments/debates, etc.
I apologize to you for anything that offended you too.
Fights are cool and funny too. And i enjoy them too. But can you and i priestt just all learn a little from this next time we chat together?
June 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Davis worshippers only care about Davis. They could care less about winning and losing.
June 19th, 2011 at 11:32 am
priesttj Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am
I guess in my old age i’m getting a bit agitated quicker than I used to.
Apologies to those I offended unwittingly.
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Yes, the older we get the less crap we take before blasting back. I’m in the same boat. Started following the Raiders in “66″.
Just think, the next age progression traitwe can look forward to is that we get to meet new friends every day. How exciting!
Irrespective of our age, we are still Raider fans and we’ve had the advantage to see the real Raiders of old. We were there at most of the great games people speak of. It was a different game then and we owned it. Hopefully our return to success is just right around the corner.
Let’s gets this CBA settled and get back to football.
June 19th, 2011 at 11:41 am
What do you mean by getting the CBA settled?
The owners have locked the players out.
Do you mean the players should meet the owners’ demands?
Or do you mean the already well-compensated owners should just let this silly thing go and unlock the gates?
June 19th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Amen JB!!
June 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I was at games at Frank Youell field, when Al Davis was the Head Coach, and I don’t talk down to people.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I was at the first game ever played in the Oakland Coliseum, and I don’t talk down to people.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Running Back Charlie Smith and my family kept Horses together, and I don’t talk down to people.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
In 1968, I came home from school, and Art Shell was sitting on the couch, waiting for my mother to do his taxes, and I don’t talk down to people.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I was at the Heidi game, and I don’t talk dow to people.
So Priesttj, you damned sure have got no business talking down to people. We’re all fans.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Yes you do.BTW,I saw them play at Candlestick before Al Davis.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Happy Fathers day to all you fathers on here.It is a sad Fathers Day for me.One of the biggest Raiders fans ever passed away Friday morning.So long Dad!
June 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
673.lefty12 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Yes you do.BTW,I saw them play at Candlestick before Al Davis.
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I do not, yes I’m critical of Al, but I don’t pretend to speak for anybody but myself. I don’t put myself out there as holier than thou.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Sorry Lefty, but you were fortunate to have him for so long.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
You guys were never more proud to have the springs broken on one end of the couch, right Kell?
June 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Thanks,KK and yes I was.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
673.lefty12 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Yes you do.BTW,I saw them play at Candlestick before Al Davis.
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haha how did i know u would say that about kk? sorry to hear that about ya pops. all fathers who take care of their families deserve a lot more respect for fathers day than yall get. not a dad myself but i know the importance of having or not having one around. hopefully the raiduhs can bring 1 home for him.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
You guys were never more proud to have the springs broken on one end of the couch, right Kell?
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I just stared at the poor guy. Lol.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Thanks,KK and yes I was.
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I started going to Raiders games at Frank Youell with my father. He died Dec 12th 1976 at 56, 2 weeks before their first SB Victory.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Lefty12, sorry to hear about the passing of your father. I hope you had a chance to enjoy him while he was hear in this dimension.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
681.KoolKell Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Lefty12 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Thanks,KK and yes I was.
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I started going to Raiders games at Frank Youell with my father. He died Dec 12th 1976 at 56, 2 weeks before their first SB Victory.
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Your Father was on point taking you to the games…
So you got to see the greatest team in NFL history
the 1976 Raiders live up close and in person…Thats awesome…
June 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Way too young KK.I was fortunate,he turned 85 last Sunday.At first we bought single game tickets,but in 1966 he bought us season tickets which we had until Davis took the team down south.He always had an extreme dislike for Davis after that,even though he was still a huge Raider fan,so I guess you could say like father like son as far as that goes.
June 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
He always had an extreme dislike for Davis after that,even though he was still a huge Raider fan,so I guess you could say like father like son as far as that goes.
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A lot of the old fans never forgave that, to this day.
June 19th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
At least he didn’t jump to the niners like a lot of them.Well gotta go,so,once again,Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there.
June 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
hmmm
there should be an american holiday called ‘old peoples day’
June 19th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
my condolences lefty, im sure your pops was awesome. happy fathers day to my pops and granddad to, both of em born and raised in east oakland and still die hard old crazy raider fans,pops is the reason why im a diehard raiders fan too, happy fathers day to those men and all the great fathers including yours lefty!
June 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
idk what this fool priest thinks thinking everyone on this blog are newly raider fans but i been a raider fan since i was born and i remember watching the glorious teams of the late 70s and early 80s and my pops and grandad been fans since the raiders existence, so stfu priest wit all ur nonsense talk of “im more of a fan than u cause im older”. frickin moron.
June 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Lefty12..
you have my thoughts… My Father is still at the hospital..
June 19th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Lefty12, Man I’m very sorry to hear about your Dad. You’ve always been one of the better fans in here and no doubt that comes from your father. All my condolences my Raider friend.
June 19th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
LMN, same to you man my condolences and prayers for your father..Sports is fun but life is special enjoy him as much as you can.
June 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I hope the owners lose billions of $$$, I hope the players have to go back and finish college and are forcec to get 9-5 jobs. F**k them all if they can resolve this BS. I hope the owners and the players suffer as much as the fans. (just venting because of this blasted lockout)
Lefty12, I don’t comment much but I respect yours, I’m sorry about your Father.
June 19th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
How ’bout them swingin’ AAAAA’zzz
June 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
674.lefty12 Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Happy Fathers day to all you fathers on here.It is a sad Fathers Day for me.One of the biggest Raiders fans ever passed away Friday morning.So long Dad!
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Sorry to hear that Lefty. God bless your dad old son. Must have been a great dad being in the Nation and all.
June 19th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
He always had an extreme dislike for Davis after that,even though he was still a huge Raider fan,so I guess you could say like father like son as far as that goes.
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A lot of the old fans never forgave that, to this day.
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Very true. I had season tickets until they went to LA. They I boycotted until now. I did purchase 2 season tickets for this upcoming season. So, maybe I’m either getting older and more forgiving or dementia is setting in. LOL
June 19th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
BHP…
thanks man! but I guess I gave the impression my father had died as well, well he IS at the hospital getting cancer treatment, but as of now still alive, though two weeks ago it was touch and go for a while… he hadn’t taken any food in for nearly 3 weeks, but now he is bettering and they will soon start the cancer treatment again, as soon as he is fit enough to handle the chemo…
June 19th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
LMN
It’s a horrible situation, been there.
June 19th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Maybe the raiders should think about bringing in
Kerry Collins. He would be a solid back up
He’s been pretty solid since he left here
an before he got here he was solid
June 19th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Any thoughts kk since your logged on?
June 19th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Cain we can do much better than Collins, he’s at the down and out side of his career. I’d take a lot of guys b4 him. I’d rather keep Grads.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
NFL Top 20
Pretty impressive company for Mr. Nnamdi when you consider that all of these guys could be Hall of Famers when it’s all said and done.
Defense
- DeMarcus Ware
- Clay Matthews
- Haloti Ngata
- Nnamdi
- Ed Reed
- Polamalu
- Freeney
- Revis
- Ray Lewis
- Charles Woodson
- Julius Peppers
Offense
- Brees
- Rodgers
- Manning
- Brady
- Vick
- Fitzgerald
- Andre Johnson
- Adrien Peterson
- Chris Johnson
June 19th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
How I’d rank those guys, based on what I believe was the intention of the list: who are the best players going into the 2011 season. Not body of work or who had the best 2010 season. More of a feeling of who is the best going forward into this season:
20. Ray Lewis
19. Charles Woodson
18. Dwight Freeney
17. Haloti Ngata
16. Vick
15. Ed Reed
14. Ware
13. Matthews
12. Brees
11. Peppers
10. Revis
9. Nnamdi
8. Adrien Peterson
7. Chris Johnson
6. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Andre Johnson
4. Polamalu
3. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
1. Peyton Manning
June 19th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Nnamdi may be the best CB right now but, IMO, his chances at the HOF are slim to none. Nnamdi is NOT flashy or a standout in the game. He may be the best CB but he’s not a back with lots of INT’s and/or takeaways. In essence, when he’s playing, he’s kind of a non-event. I don’t say this to be disparaging but nobody is throwing at him and therefore he’s being effective away from the active game. He’s not doing things like Lester the molester did. He’s not outspoken like Primetime. He’s not making the key turnaround plays like Troy Palomolu & Ed Reed. Unfortunately, Nnamdi will retire as a very wealthy excellent athlete who never made it to the HOF. The Raiders have a lot of those guys on the past Raider rolls.
June 19th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Interesting list.
I notice there’s not a single OL or TE on it.
June 20th, 2011 at 5:45 am
Interesting list.
I notice there’s not a single OL on it
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And these were voted by the players.
Goes to show that players have the O-line prioritized as much as I do (behind QB’s, WR’s, RB’s, LB’s, and D-lineman).
Two of the top 3 tackles on the list (Jake Long and Joe Thomas) have never won a playoff game.
You can have Jake Long (top O-lineman on the list) and get any of the D-ends listed in the 60’s or 70’s (say a Seymour or Abraham or Tamba Ali) and they will beat Long a few times a game, and Long will need the help of a TE or RB at times as well.
Great D-lineman will get the better of great O-lineman 9 out of 10 Sundays. Just the way it is in 2011, may not have been that way in 1987 but that’s what it is now.
Noboby is blocking Clay Matthews, you can bring back Anthony Munoz and he will have his hands full and allow pressure from Matthews.
June 20th, 2011 at 5:46 am
The greatest travesty of that list, IMO, is Greg Jennings in the mid 70’s.
That guy is awesome, one of the best 2-3 WR’s in the game, and a top 25 overall player, IMO.
June 20th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!
I hope all you fathers had a great weekend! No football yet??? lol…At least the A’s are on a 4 game WIN streak!
June 20th, 2011 at 6:05 am
GOOD DAY HWNRDR..AND OVER THE GIANTS TO..SWEET.
June 20th, 2011 at 6:18 am
YES! That is what made it sweeter!
June 20th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Sweeeeeeep!
June 20th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Hey SF….GIVE US OUR BROOM BACK!
June 20th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Haha! Good Morning Dirt Lot, Bauce!
June 20th, 2011 at 6:43 am
Hwnrdr…..soon man…..soon this cba deal will be done and August it starts
June 20th, 2011 at 6:49 am
I know where you are cxoming from on the big hits, can’t argue with you there, but at the end of the day stats don’t lie.
Do you think Charles Woodson makes it into the NFL Hall of Fame?
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704.JB Says:
June 19th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Nnamdi may be the best CB right now but, IMO, his chances at the HOF are slim to none. Nnamdi is NOT flashy or a standout in the game. He may be the best CB but he’s not a back with lots of INT’s and/or takeaways. In essence, when he’s playing, he’s kind of a non-event. I don’t say this to be disparaging but nobody is throwing at him and therefore he’s being effective away from the active game. He’s not doing things like Lester the molester did. He’s not outspoken like Primetime. He’s not making the key turnaround plays like Troy Palomolu & Ed Reed. Unfortunately, Nnamdi will retire as a very wealthy excellent athlete who never made it to the HOF. The Raiders have a lot of those guys on the past Raider rolls.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Woodson<—-consistent play making all pro, defensive MVP and SB champ…..lock for HOF unlike Nnamdi
June 20th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Last night looked at charger game in SD…..was my most fav game of season. Props to you SoCal cats for whoridin and overtaking that stadium! Awesome
June 20th, 2011 at 7:13 am
In that game on D…..first drive the dline is Shonasty Seymour Kelly Houston then second drive it was Bryant Seymour Henderson Houston…..interesting. Can it be Desmond Bryant being seen as more of DE in 2011? May not be bad if we cant get Osi Umenyiora
June 20th, 2011 at 7:25 am
…..interesting. Can it be Desmond Bryant being seen as more of DE in 2011?
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Good of you to finally catch up.
I’ve been telling, or trying to, lol, tell you this since that game was played. Need to go ahead and scrap the Bryant at DT thing and line that guy up on the edge.
When Seymour leaves in a few years, I can see Houston at DT and Bryant starting at DE with ShoNasty.
And speaking of DEs, Moss was playing pretty well for us the last 3 games or so of the season. Going to be interesting to see if he can make us forget about Trevor Scott.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Jhill i can roll with that becuz Bryant is 290 lbs should be able to hold edge well vs run. Yeah him at UT makes sense on obvious pass rush downs at minimum…..Jarvis? Who knows
June 20th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Jhill watching this SD game and seeing Seymour/Kelly vs Hendu playing the middle only re confirms what I been saying. They goiing backwards and SD success running came without Big John in for most ppart
June 20th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Lefty12,
Sorry to hear about your Dad….85 years aint bad though.
LMN,
I hope your Dad bounces back again.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Jhill….could you roll with an 8 dlineman squad with DEs Osi,Shonasty,Bryant and Houston…… DTs Henderson, Seymour, Kelly and Blaine Sumner(uDFA)
June 20th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Nnamdi’s only chance to make it to the HOF is to leave the Raiders and go to a team that will utilize him correctly….just like Woodson did.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Yeah lefster sorry to hear bout that….La Melissa your football takes suck but I hope ur pops gets better
June 20th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Dakota….nnamdi is nowhere near talent of woodson….he isnt a HOFer
June 20th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Trade DMAC for Osi Umenyiora!
June 20th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Dakota Says:
June 20th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Nnamdi’s only chance to make it to the HOF is to leave the Raiders
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I think his best chance to get in is staying with the Raiders and hoping they make it to the playoffs the last 4 or 5 years of his career.
The media has had Nnamdi as the best CB in the league now for the past few years. Those same media guy are the ones that will vote him in.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Nnamdi is a much better cover corner than is Woodson. Woodson may be a better ball hawk, but we won’t know that until Nnamdi is playing for another team.
In 103 games played with Oakland Woodson only had 17 ints.
In 91 games played Nnamdi has only 11 ints, but had far fewer passes thrown his way than did Woodson as a Raider.
And….Nnamdi has never really had an Eric Allen, Eric Turner, or Rod Woodson playing with him in the secondary.
June 20th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Yeah, I guess I would take Osi over Moss.
And I don’t mind a fat guy 4th string DT at all.
June 20th, 2011 at 8:00 am
but had far fewer passes thrown his way
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And you guys don’t think that the mediots are going to consider the fact that he was so good “teams didn’t even throw his way” as eveidence he belongs in the HOF?
June 20th, 2011 at 8:03 am
731.J Hill Says:
June 20th, 2011 at 8:00 am
but had far fewer passes thrown his way
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And you guys don’t think that the mediots are going to consider the fact that he was so good “teams didn’t even throw his way” as eveidence he belongs in the HOF?
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They might, but they will first look at ints and plays in big games….opportunities for those in Oakland are low.
June 20th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 20th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Sweeeeeeep!
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A’s are trying to play Giants baseball, and they did it better than us this weekend.
Really missing Posey these days in the lineup.
June 20th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Woodson will easily get to the HOF before Nnamdi does under all circumstances. IMO, the fact that nobody throws in his direction will NOT be a consideration. Getting into the HOF is based on perceptions and BIG plays – sacks, Int’s, forced fumbles, etc. Nnamdi is just NOT that kind of player & never will be.
June 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Sorry but Giants trying to play A’s baseball….VR do u have experience being defending champs? We done it four times newbie
June 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Dakota…..no way is Nnamdi a better cover cb than woodson. They are seasons when Woodson would give up zero or 1 td max in a season. He has better recovery speed and strength. Do i need to get on tackling? Woodson also is versatile and will make a fumble happen
June 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
JB you are right
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