Four years for UFAs would free Miller, Bush
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, June 21st, 2011 at 1:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It’s only one of dozens of reports sure to surface as players and owners inch toward a collective bargaining agreement, but if ESPN’s Adam Schefter is correct (via PFT) Zach Miller and Michael Bush could be in for newfound riches.
Schefter is reporting unrestricted free agency could be restored to four years, as it was before the 2010 season.
That means Miller and Bush would be be on the open market and go to the highest bidder rather than be tied to the Raiders with the first- and third-round tenders which were given before the work stoppage.
It would likely mean a lot more to Miller than to Bush.
Even if both are UFAs, Raiders owner Al Davis is know for writing huge checks for players he wants to keep, and the tenders applied to each man were a tip-off they are valued by the organization.
Curious to see what Bush’s value would be on the open market, given that he has had some big games as the lead back in the absence of Darren McFadden but hasn’t carried the load for a protracted amount of time in any season. If a team were to give Bush a huge offer, the Raiders are extremely deep at running back with McFadden, rookie Taiwan Jones and veterans Rock Cartwright and Michael Bennett on the roster.
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June 21st, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Lol name the team thats gonna sign Bush as a number 1…..
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Teams should be lining up to sign Bo Jackson type guys.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Zach Miller and Michael Bush could be in for newfound riches.
Schefter is reporting unrestricted free agency could be restored to four years, as it was before the 2010 season.
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the Raiders protected themselves in the event this would happen.
RB’s Taiwan Jones & Louis Rankin (FA)
TE’s Richard Gordon & David Ausberry
June 21st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
yo
June 21st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
zach miller is coming back, no way al davis lets him go
June 21st, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I guess that answers my question regarding Bush and free agency.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
1.J Hill Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Lol name the team thats gonna sign Bush as a number 1…..
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Teams should be lining up to sign Bo Jackson type guys.
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In all seriousness Bush would be a good fit in Indy.
(I’d rather not lose him)
June 21st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I feel ya 666…Raiders 4 Life!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I didnt say he was Bo Jacksons….i merely was pointing out what Al envisioned for an unstoppable rb tandem
June 21st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
LeRon McClain?
Manny Lawson?
Jonathan Joseph?
Harvey Dahl?
Tyson Clabo?
Sidney Rice?
June 21st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Indy is not taking Bush lol
June 21st, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Manny Lawson is a 49er….no thanks
June 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Richard Gordon and David Ausberry? lolololol
June 21st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Nnamdi will be an Eagle if Al cant resign him.
Just my opinion.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Bush and Miller back in Oakland to build on last year’s offense
June 21st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
13.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Nnamdi will be an Eagle if Al cant resign him.
Just my opinion.
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I concur
June 21st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
666 fk Nnamdi
June 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Come on Big Al! Let’s make some moves….acquire some winning players and lets make this year the best since coming back home
June 21st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
16.Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
666 fk Nnamdi
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Did Nnamdi kill your first born or rape your mother?
Never seen so much hatred toward a more than respectable Raider. What’s the real reason you have such disdain toward him?
June 21st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Lol name the team thats gonna sign Bush as a number 1…..
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Not saying they’re gonna do it, but they should…
The Philadelphia Eagles.
McCoy is a very good back, but he’s not big enough to carry the load.
Bush would have a chance in Philly to become the workhorse, and gives the Eagle offense a guy that can wear down defenses and bust an occasional long run.
If I’m Philly, I’m offering contract.
And if I’m Bush, I’m leaving Oakland and JaJason behind to take handoffs from Vick.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Im not sold on the WR unit at all evetho this is their plan as of now…..Chaz cant stay on field…..Murphy is cool but not a possession WR…..Ford is a big play lil runt……DHBz has shown nada……Moore is a rookie………get Chad. Bring some swagger to the unit
June 21st, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Jerry, aren’t these so called big money contracts Al gives to players he wants to keep really just back loaded contracts that he’ll never have to pay in full? Have you noticed that we have not truly been a player in the free agent market, where top notch free agents are concerned, since Jerry Rice? Al Davis signs has beens that can’t get on anywhere else, and then gives these ridiculously back loaded contracts, that look lucrative at first glance, to mediocre players. Jerry Rice is the last top notch free agent the Raiders signed where they really had to outbid another team to get him. Name another, because I can’t think of any.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Yeah Mike Bush goes to Philly and their pass happy offense lol….too funny
June 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
HairyBush, why does Brien hate Nnamdi? We know, don’t we Kell?
June 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Eagles are cheapskates and already invested some serious cash in Assante.
They might break the bank for Nnamdi, but I doubt it.
More likely to snag Bush.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Fairy Rice was a top notch call girl not a top notch free agent
June 21st, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Where is Bush gonna go?
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BAUCE,
the worst 10 rushing teams in the NFL were:
Cardinals: Wells & Hightower, drafted Ryan Williams
Seahawks: Lynch, Forsett & Washington
Redskins: Ryan Torain & Keiland Williams (Portis released)
Colts: Addai & Brown
Saints: Thomas & Bush, drafted Mark Ingram
Bengals: Cedric Benson
Broncos: Knowshon Moreno
Rams: Steven Jackson
Packers: Grant & Jackson, drafted Alex Green
Lions: Jahvid Best, drafted Mikel Leshoure
June 21st, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Philly not in Market for rb lol….Bush not ever going to Philly
June 21st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Richard Gordon and David Ausberry? lolololol
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BAUCE,
have you seen them play for Oakland yet?
didn’t think so my man..
June 21st, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Whatever you want to call him, Brien, he’s the last player the Raiders truly had to out bid other teams to get. When did the Raiders have to outbid another team to get a free agent since? I can’t think of one instance. Just has beens signed on the cheap, that no other team wanted, and huge, backloaded contracts to mediocre player that other teams were only offering modest contracts too. The Raiders have not been players in the free agent market since Jerry. Free agents don’t even consider Oakland. Its not even on their long list. They know Al’s not interested in paying a top notch free agent his value. Al will even try to insult them by offering one of his famous back loaded contracts. They laugh.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:40 pm
RRS…u notice only one team u named doesnt have a feature rb and thats redskins plus they love their young rbs…..Bush never been near 1000 yards….Snyder aint impressed….thanks for playing lol
June 21st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RRS…SAW EM ENOUGH IN COLLEGE….im not impressed if they gonna replace Miller….no way no how
June 21st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Brien, still waiting on you to point out one instance where the Raiders had to outbid another team to get a free agent since Jerry Rice.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
u notice only one team u named doesnt have a feature rb and thats redskins plus they love their young rbs
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BAUCE,
I think you pair Mike Bush with somebody like Benson or Moreno
no question Mike Bush is better than Buckhalter & LenDale White. I’d hate to play against him twice per season!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Only way Bush leaves is if we low ball and diss him with a jcat ass contract
June 21st, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Yeah Mike Bush goes to Philly and their pass happy offense lol….too funny
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Does Bush get more carries in Philly or in Oakland ?
Would he think he has a better chance of seeing the playoffs, and maybe a ring, in Philly or in Oakland ?
Philly might be pass happy, but they also throw a ton of screens. Bush has great hands, which the Raids have sadly underused.
Would Bush rather play with JaJason or MVick.
Nah, he’d never sign with Philly.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Bush and Benson are virtually same back….how that help cincy? and who wants to be in cincy….they are losers forever. Moreno isnt a homerun threat like Dmac so I dont see how it helps dungver gettin bush
June 21st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
“Eagles are cheapskates and already invested some serious cash in Assante.
They might break the bank for Nnamdi, but I doubt it.
More likely to snag Bush.”
If they see Dallas trying to make a move for Nnamdi they might get in a bidding war with Jerry Jones.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I agree with you, Bauce.
a bunch of teams would LOVE to have a RB like Mike Bush, but I don’t see any that would make him the lead back and give him that monster contract right now
He might as well stay in Oakland, where Darren McFadden has durability issues and Hue Jackson has this team motivated, thinking playoffs
June 21st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Philly aint winning a ring with Andy Reid ever!…..Bush has rapport and experience with JC…..continuity my dimwitted friend is important and he wont start over Mccoy! Next
June 21st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
“Brien, still waiting on you to point out one instance where the Raiders had to outbid another team to get a free agent since Jerry Rice.”
Cooper Carlisle we out bid the ravens.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Cal’s Cinderella season continues! 7-3! Yes! Pac 10 baby!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
TE Zach Miller should needs to be re-signed.
Re-sign Bush, or sign RB/FB La’Ron McClain or Mike Tolbert.
Re-sign C(/OG?) Samson Satele for depth.
FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete with Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, and Stevie Brown. UDFA S Joe Lefeged could also make sense.
OG Harvey Dahl or RT Tyson Clabo for a solid veteran presence on the offensive line.
OT/OG Byron Bell or David Mims, DE/DT Brandon Bair, NT Ian Williams and QB Josh Portis as UDFAs.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Doubt Al is gonna lowball Bush.
But you have to wonder if Bush wants to stay.
Remember the FB incident.
Mike wasn’t happy about that.
And as good as Bush is (and I think he’s very very good), he’s still second fiddle to DMAC.
So if you think Bush is only going to bolt if Al lowballs him, or that he’s gonna turn down the same sort of money from another team, you better think again.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:49 pm
MR….i never was disputing about teams outbidding for that b-tch. i said she was a top notch call girl…..keep up
June 21st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
CBS Sportsline reports that the Philadelphia Eagles might not be big players for Oakland free-agent cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. The report cites Asomugha’s expected enormous price tag and that fact that he is not a perfect fit for the Eagles’ scheme.
AsomughaThe Eagles have been reported, along with NFC East rivals Dallas and Washington, as likely pursuers of Asomugha. If the Eagles aren’t overly interested in getting into the Asomugha sweepstakes, I don’t necessarily think it affects Oakland’s chances of keeping Asomugha. If Asomugha and the Raiders want each other, they’ll figure it out regardless of interest from other teams.
And don’t think this report will start a trend of other teams deciding not to actively pursue Asomugha. There will be plenty of teams willing to accommodate him.
Meanwhile, ESPN.com’s Jeffri Chadida connects receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Oakland coach Hue Jackson. The two worked together in the past and Oakland was connected to the receiver last summer. However, the Raiders have depth at the position, and Houshmandzadeh’s skills have been declining.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/28082/report-eagles-not-overly-high-on-nnamdi
June 21st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:47 pm
“Brien, still waiting on you to point out one instance where the Raiders had to outbid another team to get a free agent since Jerry Rice.”
Cooper Carlisle we out bid the ravens.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Well Mike Bush has been in AZ working out with Larry Fitzgerald, so a move to AZ wouldn’t be too far-fetched.
They did just draft Ryan Williams (a 2nd round steal, IMO) though, but don’t seem to thrilled with Beanie Wells and his fumbles and poor-conditioning.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:50 pm
We tried to outbid teams for Rodney Harrison but couldnt cuz Al signed Rice to that dumbass extension in 03…or did u forget that?
June 21st, 2011 at 1:51 pm
LeSean McCoy is obviously the lead back in Philly.
Eldra Buckley, Leonard Weaver & rookie Dion Lewis behind him
FB’s Owen Schmitt & Stanley Havili
I don’t they’re going to make a serious run at Mike Bush … sorry
June 21st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Housmanzadeh lololololol…his attitude is worse than Chad’s! Ill take chad
June 21st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RRS….of course they not….ninerwoman49 just using it as an angle to diss JC
June 21st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
TJ is a major beyotch. Always whining to the refs, cheap-shoting DB’s, and shrinking in the biggest moments.
Than after a loss, he will put on a smile and a pink suit and not seem to care one way or another that he just lost.
Screw that dude!!!!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
bro honestly all this talk of “nnamdi is leaving”, “miller is leaving”, “bush is leaving”, “theres no way we can resign all of them, they’ll want to win” is all fukin futile, get real brethren, its all about if the old man wants them or not because obviously he isnt afraid to layeth the big bucks nothing else matters besides the old man wont be able to resign all of our free agents because of the new cba but all of this talk of other teams whisking away our free agents is nonsense its only if the geezer wants them or not.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:54 pm
MR
You asked I was just answering your question.
I didn’t say he was a STUD just that we out bid the Ravens.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Ninerwoman49….thinking is something you outta consider never doing again. Hasnt worked out thus far
June 21st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Fact is, the Raiders can’t afford to pay their backup RB $3+ million a year for very long.
Too many holes on the team, and in the seats to overpay your backup RB.
I am positive that on the open-market, some team will offer Bush 4 years $15 million or something close to that.
Should Al match that, or probably one-up to keep him? Seems a little high to me.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Al please sign Chad Johnson! You wont regret it!
June 21st, 2011 at 1:56 pm
There’s only one acceptable answer: Make the new 4 year FA rule effective in 2012. That way AD can lock up these two next year if he wants to.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:58 pm
VR….u remember presser for Hue? Al distinctly mentions Bush…..he has plans for him to stay
June 21st, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Philly aint winning a ring with Andy Reid ever!…..Bush has rapport and experience with JC…..continuity my dimwitted friend is important and he wont start over Mccoy! Next
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Hope you’re right about Philly never getting a ring…made a cnote bet with a buddy of mine about 10 years ago that the Raids would get a 4th Lombardi before the Beagles get their first.
And you’re right about Andy Reid. That fatazz is the most overhyped, overrated coach of all time. Can’t manage the clock or his timeouts to save his life. Tried to turn DMcNabb into a pocket passer when his obvious strength was extending plays with his legs and throwing on the move.
But you’re wrong about two other things…
I’m not dimwitted, and I’m not your friend.
June 21st, 2011 at 1:59 pm
I say Chad, Chaz(until he goes to IR),Murphy,Ford and DHb…..moore go to PS orbe the 6th wr. That wr unit upgrades
June 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Oh yes u are dimwitted but you are right I dont have zionist friends
June 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Bush has rapport and experience with JC…..
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Hilarious. Bush is gonna stay bcz he has rapport and chemistry with JC.
Saucey, you really are a funny guy.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Andy Reid’s clock management and challenges are notorious on the East Coast for being epic-ly bad.
He is one of the best X’s and O’s guys though.
Not the greatest dad either, with his son going all wannabe crack-dealing, corner man on him.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Time to make moves Al!
June 21st, 2011 at 2:03 pm
VR…..it was heroin….that boy!
June 21st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
LOL….one thing to become a user.
But thinking he was going to run a corner in Philly? With his dad the ball coach for the Eagles?
That was a big middle finger to pops, anyway you slice it.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Ninerwoman49….um yeah u dont think Bush didnt have rapport and chemistry with JC? He has none with Vick and would have to learn a new offense while still being backup……dummy
June 21st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Ninerwoman….u only saying philly to take a cheap shot at JC…u coward ass b-tch
June 21st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Bush could go join Cable in Seattle.
Wasn’t that one of the names that Shane threw out when they fired Cable?
I believe the list was Gallery, Nnamdi, Huff and Bush won’t resign because they fired Cabes, in Lechler’s words.
May hold out to be pretty accurate.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Also Al seriously consider trading for Osi. Pass Rush gets upgraded just like that
June 21st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Yeah Bush so loyal to Cable lol….same guy who played Justin FarGarbage over him
June 21st, 2011 at 2:11 pm
He is one of the best X’s and O’s guys though.
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Could be. At least that’s his reputation.
One thing I will say, the Eagles have been consistently good under his tenure.
Reid’s got the rap of being pass happy, but the truth is many of those passes were short screens. Course, that’s changed now with the incredible deep threat of #10 and Vick.
Really hate that team though. Their uniforms disgust me. Damn near puked when they came back against the Giants. That might have been the most clutch and most avoidable punt return ever.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Jerry,
Cartright and Bennet are not considered deep for anyone. McSkinny Legs have yet to play a full season. Hopefully Jones can fill the void.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Still concerned who the WLB will be….. Groves sucks and Goethel we just dont know about yet
June 21st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
McSkinny Legs<—-best player on offense
June 21st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
HairyBush, why does Brien hate Nnamdi? We know, don’t we Kell?
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I have a good idea.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
we need to keep bush and miller to keep this offense rolling. i know it wont be a popular comment but i think bush more than miller. why? because we are better at running than passing and we arent good enough to not be deep at our strengths.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Why would Bush stay if he can start somewhere else? Doesnt make any sense for him to be here from his perspective. Hate to lose him and hope he gets a chance to start with another team. Dude worked hard to be a starter in this league after that injury.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
McSkinny Legs<—-best player on offense
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Agreed. But not the most durable.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
TE Zach Miller should needs to be re-signed.
Re-sign Bush, or sign RB/FB La’Ron McClain or Mike Tolbert.
Re-sign C(/OG?) Samson Satele for depth.
FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete with Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, and Stevie Brown. UDFA S Joe Lefeged could also make sense.
OG Harvey Dahl or RT Tyson Clabo for a solid veteran presence on the offensive line.
OT/OG Byron Bell or David Mims, DE/DT Brandon Bair, NT Ian Williams and QB Josh Portis as UDFAs.
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agreed
June 21st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
If Taiwan is as good as Priest says he is, than Mike Bush is expandable.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
If Taiwan is as good as Priest says he is, than Mike Bush is expandable.
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I think T Jones is going to be pretty good. He got moves…granted inferior competition. Maybe Al was predicting he’s going to lose Bush anyway. I’ll give Al credit for picking this one.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
but taiwan is a rook, kijana carter looked great in school to so did rashawn salaam. we know bush can beast this league
June 21st, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Taiwan is a Bay area kid so im bias on him but…..how does taiwan replace a 245 lb versatile Rb?
June 21st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
3rd and 2: mcfadden, bush, or jones? i chose bush
June 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Kell…..please tell us your idea as to why then
June 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Taiwan is a Bay area kid so im bias on him but…..how does taiwan replace a 245 lb versatile Rb?
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He doesnt. We just become a different team and we havent really used Bush as the hammer at all.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
One thing about Bush, is that he is 27 going on 37.
He is balding, has a steel rod in his leg, broke his hand last year and may still have pins in there, and his conditioning has been an issue at times.
He only has a few solid years left in this league. He will not be playing in his mid 30’s. No chance.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I take Jones on a pitch to the outside.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Ninerwoman49….um yeah u dont think Bush didnt have rapport and chemistry with JC? He has none with Vick and would have to learn a new offense while still being backup……dummy
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Yeah, he’s got great rapport and chemistry with JaJason.
They’re butt buddies and Bush couldn’t live without JaJason’s rapport, and would have to make a huge adjustment to taking handoffs and passes from Vick.
He’s also too dumb to pick up Philly’s offense but he’s gonna immediately learn Saunder’s
Gotcha.
Shoot, I know I’d rather stay in Oakland bcz JaJason is the man. Wouldn’t even think that playing with Vick is the better alternative.
Saucey, you’re a genius.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Jarred Page I wouldnt mind….Bay Area kid from San Lendro you can still see his mom and dad’s crib from the Bart. Yes Bauce knew Page in younger years. His dad was my baseball coach lol
June 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Bush is not a hammer.
Part of the reason we lose that AZ game, is that Bush could not punch it in from the 1 yard line.
McFadden is way more physical than Bush and a very good short-yardage back.
Bush is a beast in the open field to bring down, but he tip-toes around the LOS sometimes too much.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
well said aig. i still take bush
June 21st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Ninerwoman49….you do realize its way more easier to continue with same offense instead of learn a complete different scheme right? Hue calls the plays and oversees offense not Saunders….again you lose I win
June 21st, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Bush is a way better option on short yardage than dmac…..vr i know you know better
June 21st, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Bush is not a hammer.
Part of the reason we lose that AZ game, is that Bush could not punch it in from the 1 yard line.
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He must have been running behind Cooper Carlisle.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Ninerwoman quit….its obvious Im whoopin you at all angles. You just not smart enough
June 21st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
AIG…WHAT?…. lol so on goaline and short yardage who is in the game at RB? Thank ya
June 21st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Kell….you not answering my question…..what idea do u have as to why i dont like Nnamdi?
June 21st, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Ricky Rubio lol
June 21st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Brian the Genital, you know your grandpa Krappy can never explain himself, use logical reasoning, or back up a statement.
All the old goat can do is ask dumb questions and post lame stats over and over again.
So please don’t ask the old goat to give an explanation. It just makes you’re gramps looks stupid.
THUG LIFE
June 21st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Not sure why Hue went with Bush more in short-yardage last year.
I don’t think he is more effective at it than Darren. Bush is a late game finisher, getting the back-breaking 50 yard breakaway to seal the game.
Has not been a Zack Crockett short-yardage back at all here.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Minnesota t wolves are such a joke lol…ricky rubio? you gotta be kidding me
June 21st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
T-Wolves drafted 3 PG’s in the first round two years ago…….and they still need a PG, lol.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Well zack was a FB and didnt have bush’s skills overall
June 21st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Kell….you not answering my question…..what idea do u have as to why i dont like Nnamdi?
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I think Nnamdi has too much class for your taste’s. Not enough ghetto and/or sho-zizzle in his dialect. Plus he’s light-skinned, you probably think he’s 1/2 white.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
JFB, wanted to ask you a question abt the Jax game you and JHill were discussing earlier…
You mentioned the pick 6 that JaJason threw but got bailed out on by penalty call.
Refresh my memory…did JaJason go out after that play ?
Or did he leave for Boller at another point ?
Reason I ask is cuz I have the recollection of JaJason barely getting touched, just a minor glance to his helmet, knocking him out of the game for a play.
Don’t want to unfairly accuse JaJason of not being able to take a hit (although I know he’s a wussy), but it seemed like he was barely touched that game and had to leave for a play.
Would like your opinion about the glancing shot that took him out. Looked really weak to me, but that’s hard to judge.
Frankly, after the shot JaJason took that concussed him in the pre-season vs. the whiners, and then seeing him go out against Jax — I think JaJason might be going Troy Aikman in the near future.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:34 pm
T Wolves are a joke….Minneapolis doesnt deserve aa team…..move them to KC or Seattle
June 21st, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Kell…wrong! Nnamdi isnt a difference maker out there at such a high price. He is soft as hell too. Lightskin……Nnamdi is not mellow yellow like you. No he isnt half white. Im a tad bit darker than him
June 21st, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Krappy reaching for the race card again. Classic move for a realtor with no listings, a wife with a bowl cut and diapers full of his fresh man gravy.
Isn’t it about time to hit the gym (take a nap) or a Broker’s Tour (take a nap), old goat?
AWESOME
June 21st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Lol and what is class? Kell I love when you snooty nosed clowns talk about class. Didnt you just say the other day the “class” thing is ruining things? lol
June 21st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I should have known that KK’s explanation was racially motivated.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I think Nnamdi has too much class for your taste’s. Not enough ghetto and/or sho-zizzle in his dialect. Plus he’s light-skinned, you probably think he’s 1/2 white.
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Plus he might be a zionist.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:42 pm
And the “fo-shizzle” angle you pull is very lame. Does Seymour talk “fo shizzle”? How about JC? Hue Jackson? Youre reaching man
June 21st, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Yes Soup fumbled the ball (he actually tried to flick it, to only Gawd Know’s where but it just fell to the ground) and got a call for a blow to the head, reversing the TD.
He got hit pretty hard, so no shame in going out for a play or two. However it was the 4th quarter of maybe the most playoff-like game of his NFL career, and he sat out the whole series (5 or 6 plays and a TO called).
I have a hard time thinking Drew Brees or Peyton, or Aaron Rodgers, or Big Ben or Tom Brady will be good enough to go into the game THE NEXT SERIES, but will stand by on a 4th down play and let the backup go for it. No chance in hell.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Kell I love when you snooty nosed clowns talk about class.
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See the resentment?
June 21st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Nnamdi is Nigerian…hardly Zionist! Try again Mort Goldman
June 21st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
LMAO at Mort Goldman
June 21st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Nnamdi isnt a snooty nosed clown….he at least takes time to help out with under privleged kids in SoCal and NorCal. My problem is he overrated
June 21st, 2011 at 2:46 pm
666….i be killing Ninerwoman49 with ease lol
June 21st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Looks like the Gasol to Minny deal is dead, my sources are telling my ladies.
Could happen still if they throw in Flynn and the #2, more likely we just ship Bynum for Howard. Then we’ll probably pick up Felton for PG in a trade.
Bros, those Norwegian ladies came back to my suite and are learning from my ladies how to operate the PARTYDUDE 8000. Guess I’m going to let them sample my Slim Jim, if you know what I’m saying.
PARTY PEOPLE UNITE
June 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Nnamdi as a person seems solid. He gives back especially where he is from. I dont think he is all that on the field….thats my issue
June 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
LMAO at Mort Goldman
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Yep, you’re a dumbass.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I am positive that on the open-market, some team will offer Bush 4 years $15 million or something close to that.
Should Al match that, or probably one-up to keep him? Seems a little high to me.
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JFB,
depends on the health & effectiveness of McJones!
June 21st, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Beecher ur a sad case…..i know your dad is kickin himself over the fact he didnt pull out and spill u on the floor
June 21st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Bush dances a little for a big man. He considers himself an all around back. I am sure Dakota has tons of example on why Bush is not a hammer. He seems to be really tuned into Bush for those flaws.
Bush is best when he gets rolling and the secondary has a problem tackling a 245lbs guy with momentum. I think that is why he is not very effective in short yardage. he needs some room to get his speed up.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Oh come on Kell why is 666 a dumbass?
June 21st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Bush could go join Cable in Seattle
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I don’t see them dumping Justin Forsett & Leon Washington to bring in basically a clone of Marshawn Lynch
June 21st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Zack Crockett knows how to find the endzone or 2-3 yds. That’s something Bush is not very good at. Bush is a starting back and far from being a short yard specialist.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Gallery, Nnamdi, Huff and Bush won’t resign because they fired Cabes, in Lechler’s words.
May hold out to be pretty accurate
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Gallery = Seattle
Huff = Houston
Asomugha = Washington
Bush & Miller = Oakland (this year anyways)
June 21st, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Johnny Flynn?? LMAO!!
I watched Jeremy Lin punk him last year!!!
June 21st, 2011 at 2:54 pm
AiG…..bush success rate in short yardage is quite good as well as near the goaline when they give it to him
June 21st, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Johnny Flynn? u better off with Errol Flynn
June 21st, 2011 at 2:56 pm
AIG….then why did they use him so much on short yardage last year?
June 21st, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Yes Soup fumbled the ball (he actually tried to flick it, to only Gawd Know’s where but it just fell to the ground) and got a call for a blow to the head, reversing the TD.
He got hit pretty hard, so no shame in going out for a play or two. However it was the 4th quarter of maybe the most playoff-like game of his NFL career, and he sat out the whole series (5 or 6 plays and a TO called).
I have a hard time thinking Drew Brees or Peyton, or Aaron Rodgers, or Big Ben or Tom Brady will be good enough to go into the game THE NEXT SERIES, but will stand by on a 4th down play and let the backup go for it. No chance in hell.
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So he did go out immediately after the hit and pick ?
Could have sworn he stayed in, and went out a little later after barely having his helmet touched.
Might have been a residual thing, so don’t want to unfairly criticize him. But it sure looked like he was barely touched on the play that sent him out. I could be remembering it wrong.
But yeah, you’re right about JaJason mismanaging the last drive. Didn’t expect any miracle there though either.
Like I’ve said a million times, JaJason is a guy that can’t handle pressure and is petrified to take shots downfield to begin with. He’s not the guy you want in charge when it’s comeback time and need intelligent, manage the clock, ballsy play.
Flashback to the Monday night game against the Eagles 2 years ago. Watch the 4th qtr and final minutes of that game and you’ll know JaJason can’t get it done.
Comeback against KC was a miracle that JaJason will likely never reproduce.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:56 pm
we need to keep bush and miller to keep this offense rolling.
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exactly, Meeze.
you gotta keep 2 of the 5 players on offense who actually produced.
McFadden, Bush, Reece, Ford & Miller!
I’m not writing off JCamp, Murph, DHB or Veldheer; but they could use some serious improvement
June 21st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Bush=Raider in 2011….end of story
June 21st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Zack Crockett knows how to find the endzone or 2-3 yds. That’s something Bush is not very good at. Bush is a starting back and far from being a short yard specialist.
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Wow.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
last year against the chokers bush ran through around and over sandy gayho chokers and scoerd on the goaline i beleive in the north endzone. i was awesome i think bush needs to get lower but he has the skills to brush off a tackler at the goaline
June 21st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
beecham ur posts are kinda funny but you are one oddity
June 21st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Bauce
“Oh come on Kell why is 666 a dumbass?”
Because of posts like this one:
KK is feeling a little cocky today as he just purchased a home enema kit so he is off the Metamucil. The bad news is that old Krappys wife didn’t read the instruction manual and now there is feces splattered all over the simulated wood grain walls of his mobile home.
It smells so bad that Meals On Wheels has refused delivery to the old goat. Poor Krappy will starve soon if someone does not help him out…lets all put a few bucks in a hat for him and hire back his homosexual male nurse so he can get proper care.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
post 138 amen bauce, same for milller
June 21st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Michael Bush can score from anywhere on the field.
June 21st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
AIG….then why did they use him so much on short yardage last year?
Answer – Do we have anybody else that can do that job? Bush is 245lbs so it’s obvious they have to use him. But even he has said many times he consider himself an all around back.
AiG…..bush success rate in short yardage is quite good as well as near the goaline when they give it to him
Answer – I dont have the stats in front of me but I dont remember him being that successful. I could be wrong but I’ll leave it up to other bloggers on here to confirm it. Dakota, where you at?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Here’s the difference between me and you, Brian the Genital:
ME – Parties down with ladies, handsome and way cool, runs the streets
YOU – Grandson of Krappy, built like Tyra Banks, gets manhandled on the streets
Sorry Brian, truth hurts when it’s built like a freight train. Sucker MCs to the riz.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@Meeze, I hear you on Bush. However, he does dance a bit too much for a big back. Big backs usually run you over but Bush does dance a bit too much, imo.
@Bauce, I agree with Bush staying only because Al is too proud to let one of his prized 2nd day picks go. Al got lots of love from the fans and media for picking up Bush in the 4th. Al will write him a fat check but Bush will prob go if someone offers him a starting job.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Lol having a tea party with your barbie and ken dolls you had as a kid doesnt mean you are with real live ladies……but if you think i get manhandled come to games this year and watch what happens….show up coward. I asked ya in 08,09 and 2010. When u gonna stop being a coward?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Ninerwoman49….you dummy JC HAS 6 comeback wins and 9 gw 4th qaurter drives……so your bs claim is shot down
June 21st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
If this is true you guysa are ggoing to see how muc he prefers a big back over a TE. Unless that TE was a Kellen Winslow type. He’ll pay Bush and let Miller go especially if Ausberry looks like a keeper. He drafted a TE for a reason and tghe prospect of Ausberry makes Miller more expendable.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Raiderman99,
You know I would bag on Soup if I had the chance.
He got hit pretty hard right under the chin-strap, and went out after that play.
Like I said, no shame going out for a play or two. But after we called timeout, he has to just walk onto the field and into the huddle anddemand to be in the game. That’s what any of the elite QB’s would do.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
I think it is extremely lame to go on a blog to brag about your sex life over and over again. We get it. You’re a gazillionaire, porn star, stud and hung like a horse. Grow up dude. SMH.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
AIG….aint no place to go for Bush right now. Better off in Oakland since dmac doesnt stay on for all 16 gms
June 21st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
you dummy JC HAS 6 comeback wins and 9 gw 4th qaurter drives
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In what October??
Has he ever had one of those comebacks, post Thanksgiving, when his team was still mathamatically alive for the playoffs?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
You’re a gazillionaire, porn star, stud and hung like a horse.
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I’m sure he is neither.
Killers don’t talk.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Al is not going to let his probowl TE go….Period.
How many offensive probowlers have Al gotten in Oakland the last 7 years?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
AIG…..lol beecher is copycatting what I use to do on here in 08 and 09…..he isnt even original with it
June 21st, 2011 at 3:12 pm
You’re a gazillionaire, porn star, stud and hung like a horse.
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I’m sure he is neither.
Killers don’t talk.
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I know. I was being sarcastic. The guys that bragged the most about banging chicks in highschool and college were guys that never got l8id.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:13 pm
VR…I BELIEVE many guys on here can LAMBO some bzies like I have…..but Beecher’s story dont add up at all. On a boat with margarita machines….jacuzzis chasing broads around? He must be Stewie Griffin from Family Guy
June 21st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
And only a trick does what beehcer is claiming…..thats high level prostitutes who party like that
June 21st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Honestly, let Bush go. Dmac, reese, taiwan, rock, bennett, that’ll work. If Bush means extra money for Nnamdi/Miller then thats a priority. Bush is solid, but come on now, we need RB’s that can catch like Dmac since campbell can’t throw it all over. Taiwan can do that. McFadden missed like 2.5 games last year. I expect the same this year. I mean who would dish out big $ for Bush tho? besides Al?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Yeah, Bush dances a little bit, so what ?
Wouldn’t exactly call him a bruiser, but you gotta remember there’s only been a handful of times he’s toted the rock 20 times in a game.
Anyone that watched him wrecking TB a few years ago, knows that he can be a punishing destructive force in the 2nd level with the added threat of taking it the distance at any time.
JFB could be right about the balding, busted hand, broken leg, not in top shape stuff, and he might not last too long, but hell, the shelf life for any NFL RB is limited.
Bush is one guy I wouldn’t want to face if he leaves. I’d be more concerned about facing him than I would be Z. Miller.
Miller has been very good. But he’s had a slew of concussions, was hurt a bunch last year, made some drops that he never did in the past, and his blocking hasn’t been great.
I’d like to keep Zach. JaJason needs help and he’s been a reliable weapon, but I’d hesitate to throw a big money long term contract his way.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:16 pm
@Meeze, I hear you on Bush. However, he does dance a bit too much for a big back. Big backs usually run you over but Bush does dance a bit too much, imo.
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I DO AGREE BUT I THINK HE CAN BE A FORCE HE CAN SCORE FROM ANYWHERE LIKE KELL SAID AND HE CAN GOR DURE SCORE SHORT YARDAGE. I THINK THE LINE ALSO HAS TO STEP IT UO IN THOSE SITUATION IVE SEEN A LOT OF PENETRATION FROM DEFENSES OVER THE LAST FEW WELL NINE YEARS
June 21st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Paradise lolololol hahahahahahaha the way u started off with that post was hilarious….rock and bennet? lol when dmac gets hurt who starts? Bush cant catch well out of backfield? hahahahahahahaha. Nnamdi a priority? lololololol
June 21st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Nothing wrong with tricking.
I consider myself a professional John, lol.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Oh yeah, one more difference – Brian the Genital uses “lol” as much as Brittany Spears. Too funny, Genital!
AIG, you are TOTALLY wrong in your assessment – I’m definitely not hung like a horse, just a tad longer than your average African tribesman. Get your facts straight, Goober.
Now I’m hearing that the Wolves are trying to get Bynum. I’ll check on those sources after a few more tasty margaritas!
June 21st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
PLAESE CUT BENNETT RIGHT AWAY! WISCONSIN RB’S ARE ALWAYS OVERATED BECUASE THEY RUN FIVE YARDS BEFORE ANYONE TOUCHES THEM. WISCONSIN OL =YES WISCONSIN RB=NO
June 21st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
AIG if u had access to boats, jacuzzis and colimbian fine ass bzies are u on a raider blog in summer? lol
June 21st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
I would try and keep both Bush and Miller but if it comes down to just 1, i wouldn’t let Miller walk. The dude is our best Offensive weapon behind Mcfadden. Ford is on the rise, but Millers hands is desperately needed.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
I consider myself a professional John, lol.
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LMFAO. no shyyyyttt. You better hook me up in ABQ.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Meeze exactly! Bennet sucks
June 21st, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Guess the logic behind keeping Bush is we were the #2 rushing offense in the NFL. SO why move around backfield contributors? I’m pretty sure Taiwan will be used like Jacoby in the run game, reverses, etc… screens, swings out the backfield. We all better hope Glass Schilens is healthy so DHB rarely sees the field. Glass, Ford, Viagra Murphy, Miller … now we need the soup can QB to orchestrate it all.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
PARADISE BUSH CAN CATCH EVEN IF IT IS OFF A SEAHAWKS HEAD! ACTUALLY THE ONLY RB ON THE TEAM THAT COULD CATCH JAMARKASS’ 75 MPH FAST BALLS AT RB’S TWO YARDS AWAY
June 21st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
No doubt Beech is exaggerating his exploits, but you gotta admit he’s got a flair for writing and comedy.
I think he’s pretty funny.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Longer than your African Tribesman? Lol you hear this guy? Oh you mean pygmies? hahahahaha
June 21st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
@Bauce. a Hell No.
@Meeze, We know DMAC is our starter so do we lock up a bunch of money on Bush to be our back up? That’s the issue I see. We may have to take a chance on Jones.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Paradise have you ever seen Bush catch??
That kids has some of the bets hands I’ve ever seen on a HB he makes one handed catches LOOK EASY!!
MBush is a superb HB he would be an absolute steal for any team in FA. It would be a horrible mistake to let that kid go.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Ok, Bush was really solid in the 49er game right?????? lol.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
VR you paying for a slam bam thank you maam….beecher is trickin so broads can be around him……big time difference
June 21st, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Yo JFB,
What’s the going rate now?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Paradise just like dmac in pitt and mia games huh?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:24 pm
You better hook me up in ABQ.
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Wish you were getting into town earlier.
Got to do all my dirty-work with the #2’s and #3’s before #1 gets home.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Yeah AIG i even know you the weight lifting hgh lover u are will not be on here if u got a stable full of bad bzies
June 21st, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Bauce I disagree, Nnamdi is the truth…
Especially for the type of scheme the Raiders play.
Him and Revis are the best man to man shutdown corners in the league..
If Al Davis wants to change his secondary schemes, I’m all for letting Nnamdi go. But as long as the Raiders play Man to Man 90% of the time or whatever number Routt gave the other day, we need Nnamdi on our team.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Ninerwoman….beecher is not funny…he is copycatting……Bo is actually the funny guy as is MR
June 21st, 2011 at 3:27 pm
What’s the going rate now?
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LOL……
Got to backpage . com and you will see what the rates are in your neck of the woods.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
If you look at our schedule this upcoming year and take out Nnamdi you will see why we need him more than Bush. Rodgers, rivers twice, Brady, Schuab .. dirty Sanchez kiled us last time he came to OAK eating a hot dog on the bench. Nnamdi is important. all 19 tackles and 0 INT means nothing, if your ready to watch chris johnson and routt get flagged for PI very 3rd and long then keep Bush.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Armchair…..Non D aslowmugha can go. I seen us win games wihtout him. Rather have a beast DE like Osi or sign logan Mnakins than get him back
June 21st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Brian the Genital, I gotta admit you and your grandpa Krappy are fun to bag on – a lot of fun – but next time you come down to Marina Del Rey I’ll let you work my Reggae Party Cruise to see just how I represent.
I just had new speakers installed so when we stop for skinny dipping in Newport, the babes can hear Thomas Dolby joints underwater.
And don’t worry, I’ve got wireless internet so you can blog while you’re working. I do it all the time and only take breaks for my babes to feed me Mai Tais and shrimp cocktails.
CATALINA ISLAND ROLLING
June 21st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Ok, Bush was really solid in the 49er game right?????? lol.
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YEAH BUT NOBODY REALLY WAS THAT DAY WORST GAME I SAW IN YEARS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. IT WAS THE SCORE OR THE A KILLER PERFORMANCE FROM FRISCO BUT IT WAS THEOPPURTUNITY WE MISSED WITH THAT GAME TERRIBLE
June 21st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
I must have missed Bush’s highlight reel for 1 handed grabs.
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Priesttj Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Paradise have you ever seen Bush catch??
That kids has some of the bets hands I’ve ever seen on a HB he makes one handed catches LOOK EASY!!
June 21st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
JFB,
Ah will do. The only time I ever did this shcytt was taking 2 muslim friends to a Korean Massage in Mt. View. Should have seen the grin on their faces for all their talk of being morally correct.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Brien-
I agree with you about Mankins and Osi…and Chad Ochocinco!
I agree with you 100%. But if Al can get those players and get Nnamdi to resign at a lower price, then we are a better team for it.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Last time I checked Pitt and MIA are much better teams that the 49ers. MIA lost 7 games by like 4 points or less. and I’m pretty sure you know wre PITT ended up. But sure Bush gets a mush pass for his epic 49er game.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Sanchez ate a hot dog eh? Was Nnamdi on the field that day? And Nnamdi such a pxssy didnt even get at Mark about that blatant disrespect. He isnt a leader
June 21st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Last time i checked the niners front on D wasnt trash…try again….its hard to run on SF or do u even watch games?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Veldheer-Mankins-Wisniewski-Campbell-Barksdale
That’s what Al needs to make happen.
Brien what is your honest opinion of Bruce Campbell, given the lack of playing time under the Cable regime?
If we talk about POWER, Bruce seems about as powerful as they come…
June 21st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
FYI I’m sure you have watched enough raiders to know what Nnamdi means to our D. Are you ready to watch Chris Johnson guard … well heck… anyone ?! But wait Routt is good enough to take away half a field ?! But sure Bush 450 yards rushing and 4 TD’s a year will come up huge lol.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:34 pm
If I come to Marino Del ray off the 90 highway it aint to see that bs….its to beat u down
June 21st, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Bush does have excellent hands.
If I’m not mistaken played some QB in H.S.
Sign him.
Move him to QB.
Can’t be worse than JaJason.
Dammit Al, get a QB.
This team’s got some shortcomings, but they’re on the verge.
Just ain’t gonna happen with JC.
Sign VY, send him over to Beech at the Ritz for some rehab, straighten out that mind and resurrect that career.
Can’t go into 2011 with all the eggs in JaJason’s basket.
That’s a recipe for disaster.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Armchair….4 young guys on line scare me but Bruce does seem to have power but you essentially gonna have him between rookies
June 21st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
tj, you have been watching football since the 1940’s and when you think of RB’s with nice hands M Bush is the first one that comes to mind ?
LMFAO
June 21st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Brian, don’t embarrass yourself trying to claim my game. That’s what punks do on the court when I dish dimes.
I know you’re kind of a hysterical drama queen, but playing that card will only get you grounded. Like a Gameboy signing up for a Wii battle.
Nerds, you’re not going to believe this but I just rewired the PARTYDUDE 8000 to make pigs in a blanket. As soon as the babes finish the spicy sweet sour, dipping season is open!
June 21st, 2011 at 3:37 pm
VY never passed for 3000 yards in a season never passed for 15 tds and td to int ratio stinks. A trip to Beech’s bathouse cruise wont help him
June 21st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Claim my game? hahahahahahahaha damn what a lame…..someone take out the trash please
June 21st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Sure let Nnamdi go so he can win a championship like Woodson and become a HOF representing some other team. But wait we can keep Bush ! Can we really !? Wow, whats Bush? the next Zack Crockett ?! Hue Jackson proved he can help the offense dramatically. But our D scheme won’t change, if we played a 3-4 Nnamdi would be expendable. Last time I checked we play 4-3 man, Hue can’t change that if he wanted to.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:39 pm
@Meeze, We know DMAC is our starter so do we lock up a bunch of money on Bush to be our back up? That’s the issue I see. We may have to take a chance on Jones.
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hey why not it could be great and only sign him for three or two years if you think he cant hold up. i think those two are a great tandem. think carolina panthers two years ago
June 21st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Bush made more difference last year than Nnamdi…..by far
June 21st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Lol cant compare woodson and nnamdi…..one guy was elite from day 1 one was a scrub….thanks try again
June 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
A dope ass pass rushing DE is far more important than Nnamdi for this defense
June 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
If any other blog dweebs are interested in working one of my upcoming Reggae Party Cruises alongside Brian the Genital, let me know asap.
I pay $30 a night and you’ll have to opportunity to watch my ladies do the Lambada (aka the forbidden dance) from the servants quarters.
PLUS I’ll throw in the opportunity to shine my anchor when we dock. This is a rare privilege, so act quick.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Nnamdi hasnt made a difference sine 2006.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Bush made more difference last year than Nnamdi…..by far
June 21st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Armchair….4 young guys on line scare me but Bruce does seem to have power but you essentially gonna have him between rookies
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I agree, but he scares me less than Langston Walker, Cooper Carlisle, and Satele.
Campbell will not get manhandled at the line of scrimmage that we can be confident about….
June 21st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
C-Wood got burned the first half of his first game against the Chiefs, and has been balling ever since.
When you factor in his collegiate career, with a National Championship and a Heisman, defensive player of the year, and Super-Bowl champion.
Top 20 all-time FOOTBALL player, ever.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
FYI I’m sure you have watched enough raiders to know what Nnamdi means to our D. Are you ready to watch Chris Johnson guard … well heck… anyone ?! But wait Routt is good enough to take away half a field ?! But sure Bush 450 yards rushing and 4 TD’s a year will come up huge lol.
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but paradise nnamdi is gone al even said it so why lose bush too. we need to keep good playas not lose em. i think we need nnamdi too but that ship has sailed brotha. we need to control the clock now and score bush can accomplish that
June 21st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
as for the QB … we are in big trouble … but if Rex Grossman made it to a superbowl???…. hahahaha Cambpell soup doesnt even know what an audible is, he has no voice, no energy, stares down his one WR he looks at, he can only operate when the run game is rolling hard and we have a lead. Take away Jocoby Fords crazy 4-5 catches and Campbell threw for 300 less yards and 2 more picks.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:45 pm
And Bush had about 650 yards 8tds S yards a pop u bz
June 21st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Meeze, well if the window is completely shut on Nnamdi, then of course you keep Bush, Miller and load up for Mankins & albert
June 21st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
I’ve never seen a player get more love for doing so little in my life as #21.
SeaPerch is a close 2nd.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Vegas Raider right on Woodson
June 21st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Bush is smooth as buttermilk, yes. But I wouldn’t call him no dancing sissy.
Very powerful runner. That’s the One guy I don’t want to lose.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Thats a lie that JC stares down one WR….now you are lying paradise and even biggest JC haters know that
June 21st, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Mista….u forgot Grad lol
June 21st, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Woodson got ignored and still made plays…..Nnamdi?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
That may be the first sensible thing Krappy has ever said on the blog. Congrats old goat, guess being unemployed has finally paid off, eh?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Id like to forget Grad…
June 21st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Woodson got ignored and still made plays…..Nnamdi?
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Woodson got burnt more, too.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9SqCrDK_Bw&feature=related
I know y’all have probably seen this already…..Don’t sleep on Bruce Campbell. Ain’t nobody punking him at the Line Of Scrimmage, that’s for sure!
June 21st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Kell we agree on Bush….guy is a load and you need two backs in the NFL. Cant get rid of top 5 rb duo
June 21st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Meeze, well if the window is completely shut on Nnamdi, then of course you keep Bush, Miller and load up for Mankins & albert
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agreed except for albert. he is a talent and a load be he is a b@#$%&h always crying about one thing or another pouting on the sideline i hate that guy give me seymour hell knock out your qb and look at his lineman like what as they turn around and apologize to thier qb for tucking thier tails
June 21st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
OK, OK, keep your Bush. Happy? Hope he puts down the bottle and has a great year. Rod Woodson better get these scrubby DB’s playing well fast. Van Dyke reminds me of Phillip Buchannon/Tramon Williams … we will see. Forget Nnamdi right? Keep changing the roster, getting rid of the one great thing we have had last few years, lets keep relying on Al Davis’s hunches of who is a great “plaayyaa” a great ” rayyydah” im sure Bush is up there with Al, 3rd round tender pretty solid for what his career has been.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
@Bauce
JC looks all over the field. He just doesnt pull the trigger unless the guy is completely wide open. He doesnt do the anticipation throws enough to be effective.
@Meeze, do you think Bush will come back to us if he gets a chance to start some where else.
Anyone knows how many teams in this league need a starting RB?
June 21st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Kell naw….did u see Aso in 04 and 05? lol he was cookies all day. Woodson superior cover corner over NonD
June 21st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I’d rather resign our own(Nnamdi Miller Huff and Bush) than go after any other big name free agents. I’d love a big time receiver but our FA’s are more important IMO
June 21st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Menstruating on Nnamdi all day is a fools errand. Everybody in football thinks he’s a great CB.
I guess with only 22,000 season ticket holders, Davis can’t afford him.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:55 pm
AIG VERY FAIR ASSESSMENT
June 21st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Nope, Nnamdi superior cover over Woodson.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
nnamdi is great player dont be mad at him ask steve smith if he is weak or chad ochocinco or larry fitz last year got locked up. andre johnson seems to care where he goes but we can still win withoput him and frankly we could be better if we get a stouter front seven.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Very good cb not a great one….if Woodson left so can He
June 21st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
* not albert * i meant Waters, Brian Waters KC guard. he would be cheaper than mankins and let bruce cambell come along, satele isnt awful, he could move around to G im sure, but Loper the loser with a lower back tattoo is our starting guard? omg were in for it.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:58 pm
No way…..I was at Coliseum live watching Woodson lock Randy Moss to 4 catches and 25 yards in 03……nnamdi didnt even look like a nfl player his first 3 years
June 21st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Lol cant compare woodson and nnamdi…..one guy was elite from day 1 one was a scrub….thanks try again
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Can’t agree with Nnamdi being a scrub, but agree that he’s not the force CW is.
CW is the better player. True, like Nnamdi, he didn’t put up tremendous interception numbers as a Raid, but CW was still far more impactful on the field.
CW is elite. Could punt return. Could play WR. Might not have spent enough time watching film, but always showed up and played his azz off on Sunday. Much tougher than Nnamdi. Battle you on every play. Swing that arm like a sledgehammer to knock out balls. Nicked up, but never wanted to come off the field. Cat’s a warrior.
Nnamdi ? Long and rangey with superb cover ability, just not the player or warrior CW is.
June 21st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Very good cb not a great one….if Woodson left so can He
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NFL consensus best CB in the league, think what you want.
Hated to see Woodson leave too, but he’d had it with the Al Davis bullschit.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Nnamdi feet aint as good as charlies nor is he stronger or aggressive plus he dont go Woodson’s speed
June 21st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Best CB is darelle revis
June 21st, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@Meeze, do you think Bush will come back to us if he gets a chance to start some where else.
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i think it depends on where but he would stay if we pay him
June 21st, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Anyhow its A’s vs Mets on comcast…..see ya
June 21st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Best CB is darelle revis
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nnamdi never got beat for a td and then pulled up as if he were hurt after calling the wr a sloach. revis is overratted give nnamdi that scheme and front seven
June 21st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Lol cant compare woodson and nnamdi…..one guy was elite from day 1 one was a scrub….thanks try again
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Nnamdi played safety in college dumbass.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
OK, OK, keep your Bush. Happy? Hope he puts down the bottle and has a great year. Rod Woodson better get these scrubby DB’s playing well fast. Van Dyke reminds me of Phillip Buchannon/Tramon Williams … we will see. Forget Nnamdi right? Keep changing the roster, getting rid of the one great thing we have had last few years, lets keep relying on Al Davis’s hunches of who is a great “plaayyaa” a great ” rayyydah” im sure Bush is up there with Al, 3rd round tender pretty solid for what his career has been.
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he found nnamdi didnt he? have some faith in old man al he picks good corners
June 21st, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Ok, Ok, so someone who is the 1 or 2 best corner in the league is expendable but someone who is a back-up RB is more valuable? Get outta here with that BS !!!! If were in a close game for the playoffs and were on D without Nnamdi with 2 minutes left, we lose. But if were on offense in our last drive of the game we need Bush right? Since he wouldn’t even f-ing be on the field genius. Yeah you know what you convinced me, Bush is what we need not Nnamdi. You prob paint your face for games and have Al davis action figures. Bush? lol
June 21st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
* not albert * i meant Waters, Brian Waters KC guard. he would be cheaper than mankins and let bruce cambell come along, satele isnt awful, he could move around to G im sure, but Loper the loser with a lower back tattoo is our starting guard? omg were in for it.
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ok completely agree then i thought you meant fat albert but we do need guard help and a backup center too. honestly a left tackle as well
June 21st, 2011 at 4:08 pm
ahh we agree on something.
BTW, if your franchise is a multibillion dollar business and you pay $14mil to have the other team ignore half of your backfield, then I think that’s a great investment. I dont care if they are ignoring Nnamdi on his reputation. Who gives a damn. So long as they are not throwing to his side, then Nnamdi has done his job.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Hello Nation! Long time no post.
For all you Gradskowski haters, his wedding takes place this weekend in Toledo, Ohio. Bought all his groomsmen HDTV’s as gifts.
I’m not concerned as much about Bush as Zack Miller. But if AD wants them to stay, he will overpay as usual. Right Kickers!
June 21st, 2011 at 4:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Lol cant compare woodson and nnamdi…..one guy was elite from day 1 one was a scrub….thanks try again
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Nnamdi played safety in college dumbass.
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First line of the post was a quote from your friend Bauce.
Pay attention before you start with the ‘dumbass’ stuff, DUMBASS.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Ok, Ok, so someone who is the 1 or 2 best corner in the league is expendable but someone who is a back-up RB is more valuable? Get outta here with that BS !!!! If were in a close game for the playoffs and were on D without Nnamdi with 2 minutes left, we lose. But if were on offense in our last drive of the game we need Bush right? Since he wouldn’t even f-ing be on the field genius. Yeah you know what you convinced me, Bush is what we need not Nnamdi. You prob paint your face for games and have Al davis action figures. Bush? lol
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oh calm down cowboy! i dont need to paint mu face black because i am already. do you really think i want nnamdi to go? no i dont he is the best player we have had since cwood, gannon etc.. but he aint coming back. he requires too much money and al just drafted two corners and signed another to a big contract. those are just facts man. and i have seen us up with two minutes left and nnamdi get burned by vincent jackson monday night opener so hey calm down and dont take it so personal man. best case scenario we keep nnamdi. but i doubt it. and by the way bush starts on about 16 or 17 teams in this league we have mcfadden who starts on about 25 or so
June 21st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Bullschit, Woodson got his butt reamed by Randy Moss in his first NFL game.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Bullschit, Woodson got his butt reamed by Randy Moss in his first NFL game.
But, I don’t hold that against anybody. Just saying.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
The LT is Veldheer, don;t try to tell Al otherwise he feels brilliant since he was a Div.2 pick … that won’t change. Young Wizzy is Center thats locke din since day 1 draft. Loper at LG/RG (awful) …LG/RG other guard will be Bruce … then RT Barksdale. Your looking at 2 rookies, 2 sophmores and somen guy would wouldnlt make any other roster (Loper). We need Mankins or someone from FA on the o-line. Or else Campbell Soup will be splattered all over the backfield.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
*meeze wasnt talking to you hahha
June 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Plenty of Grad haters here.
Never could understand that.
Think Grads would really like to remain a Raider.
When healthy, he’s outperformed JaJason, despite all the BS posted in this joint.
If Al is smart, he’ll resign Grads.
And Grads will outplay JaJason.
AGAIN.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
i agree our oline does need help obviously our biggest need especially inside at the guard position
June 21st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I’d rather pay Nnamdi 15 million, than pay Routt 10 million. like Davis did.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Truth is Nnamdi is a better cover guy than CWood but Woodson is a much better tackler. Nnamdi can mirror better Charles ever could because he just didn’t put in the film work. Had Charles worked as hard as Nnamdi does Charles may have been the best corner I’ve ever seen when you consider the total package. Deion was great at everything except run support and tackling. Rod Woodson was almost the same player as Charles both were very complete both were beast at playing the run. The only player I’ver seen like those two who may have been better was Dick “Night train” Lane. Dick would undress ya’ and leave baked and sleep where he found ya’. There were some great corners but those 3 could play anywhere in the secondary and dominate. I would put Ronnie Lott in that converstaion but he really wasn’t as good a corner as he was made out to be. They had to switch him because once the NFL saw his game they lit him up.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:20 pm
*meeze wasnt talking to you hahha
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my mistake then haha
June 21st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I’d rather pay Nnamdi 15 million, than pay Routt 10 million. like Davis did.
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agreed
June 21st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
When healthy, he’s outperformed JaJason, despite all the BS posted in this joint.
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You’re a lying troll. Prove it.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Calm down Krappy. Don’t want to split your britches again. Ha ha!
June 21st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
The proof is there.
Ask Hue.
Benched JaJason TWICE for Grads.
That’s all the proof necessary.
Dumbass.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Warriors fans…Robert Rowell GONE as President!
June 21st, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Warriors fans…Robert Rowell GONE as President!
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Really. Thank you. Dude was a certified moron.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
When healthy, he’s outperformed JaJason,
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Troll, that’s a damned lie, can you post his stats?
June 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/06/21/11/Warriors-president-Rowell-stepping-down/l_gswarriors.html?blockID=536516&feedID=8349
June 21st, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Dahl will be available, and he’s as nasty a blocker as they come. Will be cheaper than OGs Mankins and Joseph, too.
If the Raiders bring in a FA lineman, I’d like it to be him or his RT in Atlanta, Tyson Clabo.
Jammal Brown and Reggie Wells could also make some sense.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:48 pm
raiderman99, whatever you do, do NOT post any stats for the old fool Krappy.
Cut and past stats is the only thing the old fool lives for, besides cashing his wife’s paycheck.
Besides, having someone post stats upon request is Krappy’s sad old way of getting the attention he’s dying for.
Trust me, his wife and her bowl cut don’t give him any at home!
June 21st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Beecham, you should be on the boat today with your ladies blasting REO Speedwagon.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Ninerwoman49 is a liar! Grads never outplayed JC! Name his best games then Ill name JC’s best game. See turnover disparity? See how offense had best games with JC? notice Grad never won back to back games? See Grad not be accurate. Ur a liar and obvious closet racist you have no credibility at all cause you cant even state facts
June 21st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Beecham should be getting ready for work. He’s got the night shift as Arby’s dishwsher.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:57 pm
And Kell ur another lying POS….Woodson got reamed off of one catch? Charlie was guarding Carter in 99 for most of game dumbass! Eric Allen was on Moss! And game I was talking about was in 03 if your dumbass couldnt read! Notice coliseum? Is Metrodome called Coliseum you senile fkin b-tch?…….you got a comp go look up 2003’s game and see once again im right
June 21st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:57 pm
And Kell ur another lying POS….Woodson got reamed off of one catch? Charlie was guarding Carter in 99 for most of game dumbass!
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You got a link dumbass?
June 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
TE Zach Miller needs to be re-signed.
Re-sign RB Michael Bush. If he’s too pricey, sign RB/FB La’Ron McClain or RB/FB Mike Tolbert.
Re-sign C(/OG?) Samson Satele for depth.
FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete with Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, and Stevie Brown for the starting FS position. UDFA S Joe Lefeged could also make sense.
OG Harvey Dahl or RT Tyson Clabo for a solid veteran presence on the offensive line.
OT/OG Byron Bell or OT/OG David Mims, DE/DT Brandon Bair, NT Ian Williams and QB Josh Portis as UDFAs.
June 21st, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Moss turned Woodson every which way but loose.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Beecham’s a buffer at Chip and Dales. That’s where he got his taste in rad 80s music, too. cue sound: Hungry Like the Wolf
June 21st, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Your old ass is very stupid at times! Gonna tell me Moss reamed Woodson over one damn play that didnt even result in a fkin td drive! Not to mention the blatant push off by Moss!…..oh by the way Woodson never loss to Vikes when playing for Oakland you stupid fk!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Ha now Krappy is begging his grandson Brian the Genital for a link!
Don’t do it, Brian! You know a fresh link will just get the old goat all wound up and it’ll be harder to put him to bed!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Grad’s comeback against Pittsburgh in ‘09 was huge. That combined with his quick release, resemblances to Gannon, I think are why people like him. He reminds us of a time when we won consistently. Campbell has a very slow release, he’s tall, slender, brings back shades of Kerry Collins, Jeff George, Aaron Brooks, and of course his unspeakable predecessor. Their numbers are about the same, I think with Campbell even edging Grad out. But Grads just reminds me of Gannon, and, love or hate Gannon, Gannon as our last consistently winning QB.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Link? lol now he wants a link…..be a man and go to google and see moss in 03 have 4 catches for 25 yds with Woodson guarding him. In 99 woodson was on carter and allen guarded moss! This is fact. Moss had one catch on woodson at the metrodome u dumb old fool. We won 22-17
June 21st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
It was a TD catch, right over the top, down the right sidline.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Lol MR youre lying again….JC is superior to Grad in every area of Qbing….not even close lol….still living off 09 hype with no polamalu playing lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Still concerned who the WLB will be….. Groves sucks and Goethel we just dont know about yet
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How about Capt. Kirk Morrison @ WLB. Should be able to get him cheaply off of FA. He can tackle & is good in coverage. He’s just NOT a MLB.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Raiders are extremely deep at RB if BUSH should leave?
Give me a break….Michael Bennett, age 32…always hurt when with the Vikings….Rock Cartright, 31..what has ne ever done?…And T. Jones, an unproven rookie….if Bush leaves….How is this a deep RB group after McFadden…who is also prone to injury…WE need both McFadden and Bush….Please Jerry, Please….do your homework…
June 21st, 2011 at 5:07 pm
I remember Randy Moss eating Woodson”s lunch. At the Coliseum.
You young know it all pootbutt.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Brien, JC is “superior” to Grads? I don’t know about that. And I don’t think there’s any stats to back that up, either. JC’s numbers are a little better. So, if you’re going to go by the numbers, then JC’s a little better. Superior? That’s hyperbolic. As far as JC even being a little better than Grad, I’d like to see both of them get a complete season in and see who has better numbers. I think it would be Grad. I think Grad’s better than Campbell. But Al’s set on his ways and in this instance, his preference slightly edges out the alternative stats wise. Is what it is.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Lol hahahahahaha Moss had 4 catches that day for 25 yards in Oakland! Kell youre a liar….blatant one at that
June 21st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Kell u gonna feel real bad when u find out Im right again lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
“You young know it all pootbutt.”
- Professional Realtor Micheal Kelly
Kane & Associates
June 21st, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Grad is a 50 pct comp qb lol……end of story….had more turnovers than TDs last year….spare me lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Kell is flat out lying…..Kell what was the score that day? Who was the Raiders qb that game? lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Don’t trip!! anybody thin king Bush is going anywhere doesn’t know Mr Davis. Bush is the bets big back we’ve had since Bo. The chance of him leaving without him breaking the bank is slim and NONE!! and Slim aint here now!
That kid is way too talented you can find another Miller or someone serviceable trying to get another Bush just aint gonna happen. You could go another 10-15 years trying to get a player like Bush. It’s easier to get a DMC than Bush and I mean that a guy with his running skills and size plus maybe the best hands on the team. Is a very rare animal just because the Raiders have virtually wasted his first 4 seasons is not a testament to his talent. We had a coach who simply had zero clue as to the kids skills. And how to utilize them.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Kell go to google right now….go to profootballreference.com…….now pull up 03 vikings and go to raider game….they lose 28-18….see Moss’ numbers?
June 21st, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Enter Hue Jackson……
June 21st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
And BHp put down the Ripple now! Nnamdi couldnt even sniff Woodson’s shoes at CB. Everything nnamdi can do Woodson does it wayyyyyyy better!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Come on Kell u liar….i dare ya to be a man for once….go find out again the Bauce aces you again
June 21st, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Anybody who cannot see that JC is hella better than Grads aint paying attention. Or maybe they’re Raiderman99 in disguise he easily has no freakin clue.
If he had a choice he’s dumb enough to start Grads ahead of Payton Manning.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Not really.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I leave for an hour and its still Raging Bush Boners in here. Wow.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:20 pm
My supreme senses tell me ol Krappy is ready for a giant meltdown!
Gotta take the Reggae Party Boat out for a spin, ladies want some dinner at the Crab Cooker in Newport. Wizzle.
But I’ll check in later over after dinner Mai Tais to check out the trail of Krappy tears.
BOO YAH
June 21st, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Lol nnamdi cover like Charlie hahahahahahaha. Such a joke at every leve!l
June 21st, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Maybe it was a pre-season game. As I recall Moss was the first one he ever lined up against, no?
I’ve seen Randy Moss eat Woodsons lunch. If you don’t believe me. I don’t give a damn.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Before I ever got an account I read the Bruce Gradkowski vs Jason Cambell comments in here. There is no definitive way to say 1 is much better or worse than the other. They both have no accomplishments ,no stardom, no mastery, no great talent, I will tell you what tho, if you put Bruce’s heart and brains in Campbells body then maybe you have a B/B+ QB in Campbell. So combined they still not good enough. You need an A QB to make it to the bowl.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Yes really Kell….u too scared to go to profootballreference cuz u know I got u aced old man. I got u aced on any fkin topic u want and you know it. Thats why you are really pissed at me. A youngin puts u in ur place daily and ur old ass cant find a way to combat it
June 21st, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Paradise…..u mean a qb like trent dilfer?
June 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Bauce it aint Ripple son it’s champagne!!! Hahaha
Nnamdi is the single best cover guy in this league no one can mirror the way this kid can. Can’t help if the biases wont let you in on this maybe when he hits it big$$$ in FA. FIVE THOUSAND FRENCHMAN cna’t be all wrong…………and they say Nnamdi is it and they speak in cash dollars….not talk…….cash!!!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Lol oh now its the preseason game hahahahahahah….now he cant remember…..what a fkin shame you are. You are so sad you run to august games that dont mean shhhht lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Cash? more like Monopoly money BHP…..nnamdi is slow not aggressive and doesnt have ball hawkin or recpvery ability like woodson in his prime….not even close
June 21st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Stats can be misleading.
Even the statmeister JFB will tell you that.
Do the stats show Gradkowski is better than JaJason ?
No.
But your eyes can tell.
If you’re willing to open them.
Ask Hue why he benched JaJason TWICE.
Might have something to do with stats.
More likely has alot to do with what his eyes saw.
Could be that with only a handful of starts, Grads has showed promise, where as JaJason has had 6 years of starting and hasn’t shown anything.
Could be that Hue saw JaJason tipping the snap and sliding short and kneeling and pissing his pants in Tenn.
Could be that Hue saw JaJason had the thousand mile stare against St Louis, and that the Raid offense was on the way to getting shut out at home by the Rams.
Or maybe Hue realized that JaJason is a turd after his awe inspiring performance against the whiners.
Or maybe the trainers complained about having to clean the urine off of JaJason’s uni after he pissed it in Pitt.
Ask Hue who the better QB is.
He must have dumped JaJason TWICE for a reason.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:32 pm
bauce I’ll give you this if I had a choice of both at 25 years old I’d take CW in a heartbeat no doubt!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Come on Kell….everyone enjoys me making an absolute fool outta you
June 21st, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Eyes can tell? Lol yeah i saw grad never win back to back games ever in his fkin career! how u gonna explain that one ninerwoman49
June 21st, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Buace,
Charles at his best is damn near a perfect corner he has no weakness except he just didn’t watch film early in his career. If he had worked on his game the way Nnamdi did………..he would be in the top3 historically. He just didn’t take the gam eseriously until Mr Davis made him do it by not signing him to a 80$ mill contract then he woke up.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Grad journeymen qb for bucs and browns lol……fringe nfl qb at best. Cant put two good games back to back ever in his career….what cant the h0m0 ninerwoman49 get about that?
June 21st, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Calm down Lil pootbutt, ok? I’ve seen Randy Moss score TD’s on Charles Woodson.
I’m not dissing Woodson, ok?
I hated to see Woodson leave. He just wasn’t having anymore of Al Davis dysfunctional B.S.
God bless him.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:40 pm
And how can grad be better qb when he isnt even depended on to be on field from week to week? How is that being there for ur team?
June 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Simple saucey, Grads has only had a handful of starts.
Whereas JaJason has had 6 years and done squadouche.
Surely even your pea brain can fathom that.
But again, ask Hue why he benched JaJason for Grads TWICE.
He must have had his reasons.
June 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Kell no u havent! randy never scored on Woodson in their two matchups……..preseason games do not count on stats sheet u fool…..u are a liar
June 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Raiderman99 are you some kind of retard man?? you shilling for that runt is crazy I thought I went overboard with Russell but at least he was somebody good enough to warrant everyones attention. Grads is a scrub can’t you see that fool??? You talk about this guy like he’s Payton Manning he should be carrying luggage rather playing QB.
Get a freakin clue and stop embarrassing your family………damn!!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Ask yourself why Grad wasnt re-signed lol
June 21st, 2011 at 5:43 pm
The pot calling the kettle black……lol
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priesttj Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Get a freakin clue and stop embarrassing your family………damn!!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:44 pm
And to further my point again…..a nfl player i know personally for SD told me day before oct 10 game that SD wasnt afraid of Grad…laughed at the notion to be honest! But said when jC got in they were worried. You know why? Cuz he is a better qb
June 21st, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Everyy nfl player will tell u JC hands down is better than Grad
June 21st, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I like Grads to be honest it’s just that Raiderman99 gotta get help man. He thinks Grads is soem great QB, he is a backup and that is the best he’ll ever be which for a lot of people tha is the world he at least is capable of playing an NFL game . But my Gawd man this guy swears by him……looney!!
June 21st, 2011 at 5:48 pm
And to sum up how bad grad is….miami played a 3 man front predominantly with 7-8 droppin in coverage….you know why? Cuz they aint afraid of Grad’s arm
June 21st, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Now that ive exposed lying kell and ninergirl im out
June 21st, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Everyy nfl player will tell u JC hands down is better than Grad
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Every nfl player will tell u Nnamdi is the best CB in the league, you duplicitous little snot.
June 21st, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Saucey, you have a valid point about Grads ability to stay on the field.
If you can’t stay healthy, you can’t play and you’re of no use to the team.
But the fact remains that when Grads was healthy, Hue benched JaJason.
Heck, he even benched JaJason again when Grads wasn’t healthy.
Remember, when the Raids acquired JaJason, it was obvious to everyone (except BHP) that JaMoron was a goner.
JaMoron gets released, and at that point JaJason is the unquestioned starter and possibly the next Plunk.
That lasted for 6 quarters of regular season play.
Now the JaJason supporters like to say he was yanked too soon. What they fail to understand is that in addition to playing like crap in his debut as a Raider, and having done nothing in Washington, Hue has the added benefit of watching practice and having a ‘hands on’ feel for how the team is operating with each QB.
Hue made the call to bench JaJason for Grads.
And he even did it again when Grads wasn’t healthy.
Now I know you’re not too bright, but if you don’t understand that JaJason’s hold on the starting QB gig is extremely tenuous (despite the Raider party line), then you’re as myopic as BHP was when he couldn’t see that JaMoron was out when JaJason came in.
Hue wants someone better. Al wants someone better. There’s absolutely no way JaJason gets benched for Grads unless that was the case.
You think JaJason is written in stone ? Wrong.
He’s on a very short leash. And Hue and Al will yank that leash and curb the mutt known as JaJason at the first opportunity.
They’ve done it before and they’ll do it again.
If Raids think Grads can stay on the field they’ll sign him.
And he’ll beat out JaJason AGAIN.
June 21st, 2011 at 6:05 pm
I love grads leadership and passion for the game, but that doesn’t always win you games, as we noticed. The dudes not built for taking hits from the big dogs. On that same note Chaz needs to placed back in the egg carton if he not 100% this preseason. Damn i wish they’d end this lockout so we can see what we got and start bringing some guys in!
June 21st, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Raiderman99 keep hope alive huh?
Man JC is a legitimate quality starter in this league, whether you get it or not he is. Now is he a great players that is yet to be determined. But at times he will WOW you with his talent. I never once felt the same way about Grads itt was more like I’m glad he’s at least serviceable. The best thing about Grads is he saved the fans from the Russell embarrasment amd they appreciated it. Beyond that they want a QB capable of greatness and he’s NOT capable……….period
June 21st, 2011 at 7:15 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-best-potential-free-agents-under-4-year-free?urn=nfl-wp2829
June 21st, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Only thing football related I care about, GET UR DONE!As for QB,JC is the man,period,imo.As for a CB,LESTER and Mike,and Willie come to mind,but my favorite is CWood,PERIOD!!Even tho the RAIDERS lost the game @ne,(stolen)I will NEVER forget 24 coming off the edge and forcing the FUMBLE! EVER Stripped the Golden Boy,ok whatever,Im Done
June 21st, 2011 at 7:37 pm
When you look at the corners we’ve had here if you get mentioned with them it’s a very select class. The very best in NFL history it come sdown to personal preference. From Nnamdi back to Willie Brown and McCloughan it’s a who’s who at corner.
June 21st, 2011 at 7:42 pm
But at times he will WOW you with his talent.
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hmmm….like when?
1. He took a knee on 3rd down in Tenn? (or second down whatever)
2. He dumped off on 4th down against Tenn and Jax?
3. He threw that duck that Ford rescued him against KC?
4. How many yards/completions did he get in the first half against Denver in Oakland?
I was really wowed last season. Oh wait I was so wowed that I do remember predicting JaChoke would be exposed as a fraud against Pitt…..
June 21st, 2011 at 7:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
When healthy, he’s outperformed JaJason,
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Troll, that’s a damned lie, can you post his stats?
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Easy. Anyone that has ever been educated in a science class knows that to compare 2 items you need to keep everything else the same, except those 2 items itself. You even learn this your 10th grade in highschool.
Grad and JC played on the same team with the same cast of characters against SF (preseason) and STL. SF had their 1st unit D in that 3rd preseason game all the way through the end of the 3rd qtr and it was nite and day diff. Same goes for the STL game. Same supporting cast, same opponent and same game. I would think you’d do the honorable thing KK and acknowledge that as much.
June 21st, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Even in the lousy Pitt game, JC sucked worst than Grad. There’s your 3 examples KK. Same supporting cast, opponent, and same day. You can’t get any better than that if you are trying to compare 2 individuals.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:03 pm
My records show Gradkowski won 1 game, Campbell 7.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2010.htm
June 21st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Ask yourself why Grad wasnt re-signed lol
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Not so fast.
No way in hell we roll with Boller at #2 and Frye at #3.
Frye got hurt last year in non-contact and was out for the year.
Wouldn’t be suprised at all if Bruce ended up back here on a one-year deal next year.
If not, he will be in Carolina, Tennessee or Minny, ready to play a little and pass the baton to the youngen.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
KK,
How do you know Grad couldnt win those games that JC started? Do you think Grad would have lost that game in Denver? Even you or I handing the ball off could have won that game.
I’m disappointed in you quite frankly. I thought you would at least acknowledge that the best way to determine who is truly better is to make sure all the other components stay exactly the same and allow 2 guys to perform under the same environment to see who is truly better.
Same teammates, same opponent, same day. We have 3 exact instances of such and that’s pretty much the story right there. But keep on spinning though. Quite disappointing KK.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:10 pm
KK,
If you are trying to compare 2 students, do you give them the same test or give them 2 different tests to see who’s better? Pls dont go affirmative action on me here.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
My records show Gradkowski had a 66 passer rating for the year.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2010.htm
June 21st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Aig, I’m going by the numbers, not your opinion.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
KK,
If you are trying to compare 2 students, do you give them the same test or give them 2 different tests to see who’s better? Pls dont go affirmative action on me here.
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Yep the test is NFL games. Gradkowski won 1 Campbell won 7 of them.
Get over it.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
LOL boys y’all never stop beggin’
Time will tell all, if he’s a starter somewhere then you can say I’m wrong. This season Gradkowski needs to prove he can do what JC did by winning a starting job lets see if he can get it done…….period
June 21st, 2011 at 8:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Aig, I’m going by the numbers, not your opinion.
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That’s right and my numbers say that Grad out performed JC in all 3 games in which they had the same supporting cast, opponent and game day. I dare you to prove to me otherwise.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
KK,
If you are trying to compare 2 students, do you give them the same test or give them 2 different tests to see who’s better? Pls dont go affirmative action on me here.
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Yep the test is NFL games. Gradkowski won 1 Campbell won 7 of them.
Get over it.
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The NFL game is a test yes. But the CONTENT of each of those tests are different. The only time they had the same CONTENT is SF (preseason), STL and Pitt. Grad outplayed JC in all those 3 games didnt he. Keep trying buddy.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Y’all keep saying JC was benched for Grads yet JC is the incumbent not Grads I wonder how that works since JC was benched for Grads. Why didn’t they sign Grads to a longterm deal??
All this specious logic and speculation. Facts are facts one guy is the leader of a team and the other guy is looking for a team. Why???
June 21st, 2011 at 8:20 pm
When has JC EVER won a starting job? Dude was given the starting job in DC because he was a first roudn pick just like Boller in Balt and Jawalrus in Oakland.
JC then had to be given the starting job because Al was dumb enough to trade for him and proclaimed him the next great Plunket.
JC is the affirmative action QB of the NFL. Period.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Hahahha Aig…preseason games? come on stop please….grads 5 tds 7 ints….offense had best showings with JC. Grad has never won back to back games in his career! Explain that! please explain it! u know why? Cuz he cant! And guess what? JC DIDNT LOSE BACK TO BACK STARTS….grad didn….Next! Jc hands down better than Gradgrad….not even close
June 21st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Every kisses Gannon’s ass but he was 8-8 in his first year! JC was 7-5! Grad never will win 7 games in 2 combined seasons in our offense
June 21st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Facts are facts one guy is the leader of a team and the other guy is looking for a team. Why???
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You meant to tell me Al Davis always start a player based on MERIT? hmm….
James Jett – Al Davis proclaimed that Jett was going to be even better than Cliff Branch. I remember the announcer was repeating what Al told him the year Jett started for the Raiders.
Jawalrus – He’s going to be great.
JC – He’s the next Jim Plunket.
You should ask Al priest.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:28 pm
“My name is Bruth Gradkowthkey Im quarterbath of the Oakland Raiderth but I can barely toth a pasth on a deep in or outh routh”
June 21st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Bauce,
At least with you, you admit that you’re jaded with JC. You admit that the QB gets all the credit…even when he’s just handing off the ball. I can live with that.
It’s when other bloggers on here try to get fancy with stats and I’ll use real stats to throw it back at them. The best way to measure 2 players is keeping everyone else around them the same. You know darn well in camp they allow 2 qbs to play with the same unit and see who performs better.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:29 pm
“Im sssso britthel I geth hurt all stttthe time”
June 21st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Well time to catch up on the Pacific series. So far it aint as good as Band of Brothers. C ya.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:30 pm
JC performed better….more wins more tds etc….u get point lol…BAUCE IS OUTRO
June 21st, 2011 at 8:32 pm
If I remember correctly, AD didn’t speak to highly of Bruce in his last Press conf. I think Grads is gone.
But Al did put in his 2 cents on Bush, I think he stays.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Wow Bumgarner.
9 hits, 8 earned, one out (the AL pitcher) and all that in 25 pitches.
That’s pretty hard to do if you try.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Grad is a 50 pct comp qb lol……end of story
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What’s Campbell’s pct?
June 21st, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Brien, come on. Gannon won an MVP. You can’t be serious.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Alright then, Brien. All comes down to the season. If Campbell has a good year, I’ll give you props for being right. If Campbell sucks, look out. That’s all I’ve gotta say. Don’t even try making excuses for him, either, because you’re not making any excuses for Gradkowski. You’re putting the weight of the world on his shoulders and calling him a failure. Campbell will get the same treatment in here if he fails, and you know that.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
The simple answer to the Soup vs. Bruce debate, is that Soup at his best is way better than Bruce, and at his worst he is way worse than about any QB in the league, including Gradkowski.
His 10.7 QB rating against SF was not only worse than anything Bruce or Jamarcus ever did, it was the worst any Raider QB has ever done in a start!!
And his QB rating in the STL game and Pitt were way worse than anything Bruce ever did in a Raider uniform, and he only had one start his rookie year in Tampa Bay which was worse, according to QB ratings.
Soup had 3 starts LAST YEAR ALONE (not even including the Tenn opener), that were statistical worse than any game Bruce has ever played in but one as a pro.
On the flip side, in all fairness, Soup also tossed 3 120+ QB rating games last year, while Bruce has only done that once in his career (the Pitt comeback game).
So Soup has a much higher ceiling, and a much lower floor than Bruce, historically and statistically speaking.
FACT.
June 21st, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Time will tell all…….just get it done..
Grads has to prove he can win and keep a starting Job. Until he does it’s just wishful thinking………..period
June 21st, 2011 at 9:03 pm
JFB who cares about that crap man those stats don’t mean crap unless it tells you what he’s going to do normally. Anybody can post a horrible day you don’t do that by yourself he had a ton of help posting those isolated stats. The key is he has to become consistent and play at an acceptable level consistently. And then at times be great everyone is capable of atrocious games all it takes a couple of bad passes and dropped balls and balls bouncing off rec’s into defenders hands. Stats are for losers.
What you look for is competence and leader and if he competes and wins. JC has shown that he can do all those things. Thus his starting status this year and this year will tell all. Who cares about your idiotic statical barometors. That’s what you do when you can’t tell what your looking at.
June 21st, 2011 at 9:23 pm
TJ @KC,Snake thru 7 picks in one game!It friggin happens to the best,who knows if JC isnt our next Plunk,let him play, we will see! RAIDERS!!
June 21st, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I saw that game Hendu and it was embarrassing to say the least. Joe Montana had some stinkers as well as Steve Young it happens. It’s what do you see when you see the guy perform normally. With JC you know he’s going to protect the ball most of the time. He’s going to throw high% passes and try to get 1st downs and he is the highest rated passer in the redzone so if he gets there he’s normally money.
June 21st, 2011 at 9:42 pm
The simple answer to the Soup vs Bruce debate is:
Gradkowski has a Career 65.9 Passer rating. That’s a good deal below average.
FACT
June 21st, 2011 at 9:43 pm
The simple answer to the Soup vs Bruce debate is:
Bruce was 1-3 last year, Soup was 7-5
FACT.
June 21st, 2011 at 9:48 pm
The simple answer to the Soup vs Bruce debate is:
Bruce has a Career AV# of 9, Soup has a Career AV# of 44.
Approximate Value is our attempt to attach a single number to every player-season since 1950.
See the glossary for more information.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GradBr00.htm
FACT
June 21st, 2011 at 9:54 pm
tj,other than getting the deal done,Im concerned about the OL,bigtime!Moving away from zone into power blocking,etc Cant wait for free agency ol,fb wlb
June 21st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
KK,
Fact. Soup was benched for Grad. Not once but twice. Simple enough for you.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Sorry 3 times. I forgot the Pitt game.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
priesttj Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Time will tell all…….just get it done..
Grads has to prove he can win and keep a starting Job. Until he does it’s just wishful thinking………..period
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TJ
Why do people pewrsot in even talking about Grads? He’s History. IMO, he may not even be in the league next year. Is he a nice guy with some excellent qualities? You bet but he’s not a starting NFL caliber QB. He’s not even a #2 quality due to his lack of durability. Hopefully for him, he has a new permanent day job.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:00 pm
JC needs to grow a pair = FACT
June 21st, 2011 at 10:01 pm
persist
June 21st, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I fully expect Soup to do well this year. A little team stability can work wonders. Add to that good coaching and a running game and he should thrive in Oakland.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:13 pm
JB ya’ got me man. It’s like they’re soem kind of cult or something they’re still wetting their panties over that Steelers game. Because since that game he’s been nondescript no one in their right would pursue that guy as a starter. That should tell ya’ everything you need to know. But they have some weird love affair with him. If he’s in the league he’s lucky.
You may not be a JC fan but if you can’t see the obvious talent you’re hating plain and simple. This guy has potential to be very good top 10 QB. Grads in his wildest dreams couldn’t do that.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:15 pm
One thing deeply and seriously worries me in the Coach Davis and Coach Jackson relationship. If Coach Jackson benched JC twice last year, and ever most rightly so, obviously Coach Jackson has a spot for Grad. Most likely as a bona-fide back-up, but none the less has a spot for him. Now was it Coach Davis or Coach Jackson who dumped Grad in favor or JC? Could this be the first tremor in the eventual Owner/Coach quake that is going to happen because of Grad, or do they both see Grad as damaged goods? Too bad Grad wasn’t built with a little more durability because he would eatin JCs’ lunch. But we all know the story. So my guess is Coach Davis did not want JC to feel the heat of a back-up, thus dispensing with the less than desirable durability of Grad. But as the saying goes, its not the bark of the dog, but the bite. Time will tell gentlemen, time will tell.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:19 pm
You may not be a JC fan but if you can’t see the obvious talent you’re hating plain and simple. This guy has potential to be very good top 10 QB. Grads in his wildest dreams couldn’t do that.
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I agree that Campbell could easily become a very effective QB here. I won’t say I’m a fan yet but I do think he’s the right person for this team right now. Peyton Manning wasn’t available so I guess we’ll just have to watch Soup get it done. With a rebuilt O-line, a strong running game and speed everywhere, he should be more than adequate. The Ravens won the SB with a non-descript QB proving this is really a team game. A QB that can manage the game is what is required. Soup can do that very well. We should be playoff bound this upcoming year assuming we have one.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:20 pm
BTW, Just a matter of time before the powers that are afflicted announce that the lock down, er lock-out is over.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:21 pm
JC will need a above average to great running game in order to have any success at qb.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:21 pm
JC will need a above average to great running game in order to have any success at qb.
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Fortunately, we will have one so all’s well on that front. Soup will have one of his best ever years – my prediction. In my view, team stability, familiarity with the offense, above average coaching and a strong OC will help Soup do well this upcoming season.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
JB, With the backs we have right now we have the potential to have an outstanding year on the ground. Run first, run second, and run third, pass only when necessary, and we will have success. Improved o-line, three very good backs to pound the ball and control the clock.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Funny how there’s not one soul on this blog, including Mistic, who would dare predict that JC will make the probowl this year. Yet, his supporters are so gung ho about him. Have we lowered our bar of expectation in Oakland so badly? After 7 years of starting in this league playing with probowl caliber talents around him…
DC – probowl FB, RB, LT, WR and TE….JC couldnt get it done. They made excuses for him.
Oakland – probowl caliber RB, TE…..still can’t get it done.
The excuses are amazing. It’s always someone else that failed JC. JC reminds me of that chick Amorosa on the first season of Apprenctice.
SMH
June 21st, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:29 pm
JB, With the backs we have right now we have the potential to have an outstanding year on the ground. Run first, run second, and run third, pass only when necessary, and we will have success. Improved o-line, three very good backs to pound the ball and control the clock.
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Right you are. Our offense has the potential to be downright scary to our opponents. There’s more “speed” on this team than there is in the State of WA.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:42 pm
AIG
Can’t/won’t speak for his Wahington stint but His Oakland experience was limited. Not making excuses but just pointing out:
• new to the team
• new to the offense
• new to the Raider culture
• new to his new OC
• the TE was not pro bowl caliber last year due to injury
• the receiver corp was relatively new – definitely new to Soup
• the O-line was abysmal when it came to pass blocking
Given these variables, I really wasn’t expecting a Pro Bowl performance by Soup or any other Raider QB.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:44 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Funny how there’s not one soul on this blog, including Mistic, who would dare predict that JC will make the probowl this year……………..
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Here is the Raiders greatness this year:
Defense
A superior ground game, #1 in the league
Special teams
The passing game will be a non-factor.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:45 pm
JB, You in WA? Where abouts?
June 21st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Thought for the Day:
If Trent Dilfer can take a team to the Super Bowl & win, then so can Soup. This is a team game and many of our teams strengths should be coming together this year. Only to be better the year after.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Oakland. Was trying to make a joke about speed & Crystal Meth which WA seems to have a lot of – if you watch COPS. LOL
June 21st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
396.JB Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Thought for the Day:
If Trent Dilfer can take a team to the Super Bowl & win, then so can Soup. This is a team game and many of our teams strengths should be coming together this year. Only to be better the year after.
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Dilfer had the suporting cast and JC has got that this year too. It will happen. Coach Davis will be holding the Lombardi in Indy.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Home grown Raider fan since 66 or 67. Can’t remember which.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:54 pm
397.JB Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Oakland. Was trying to make a joke about speed & Crystal Meth which WA seems to have a lot of – if you watch COPS. LOL
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The crystal meth freaks grow like weeds. Its an epidemic. Kind of like a virus.
June 21st, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Why on earth would someone predict a probowl for someone who’s never been there? That stupid in and of itself. What is Grads going to the probowl??
Man what faulty logic!!
What the hell does a probowl have to do with anything anyway?? if he goes great if not so what!!
June 21st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
JB,home grown since Cotton Davidson and Tom Flores were the QBs,think I have a couple on ya,just means Im closer to the dirt nap, as they say! RAIDERS!!
June 21st, 2011 at 11:03 pm
hendu Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
JB,home grown since Cotton Davidson and Tom Flores were the QBs,think I have a couple on ya,just means Im closer to the dirt nap, as they say! RAIDERS!!
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Yes you do! You are one of those original Frank Youell field guys. Congratulations!
June 21st, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Priesttj I think some people were putting JC at the pro-bowl caliber and the point was being made he hasn’t played to that level. I think the other point being made is when you are surrounded by pro-bowl type caliber players, you yourself should be better. But its all up for debate, I just don’t see JC as pro-bowl caliber. Hopefully he can be a good game manager of the great ground game the Raiders will put on the field this year.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:10 pm
The QB can’t do it on his own. It requires someone to catch the ball before the passing game is Pro Bowl caliber. Can’t have one without the other. JC may never be a Pro Bowl QB. The numbers of other good AFC QB’s limit that possibility. I believe there are only 3 or 4 QB’s in a conference named as Pro Bowl QB. He simply may be a victim of the numbers. All I want him to do is manage the game, win the game, get to the playoffs and ultimately win the big one. If he does that as a non-Pro Bowl QB, I can live with that.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:11 pm
2010 Raiders were 1 win away so 2011 is playoffs or bust.
Whether or not you like Campbell …
If he leads the team to the playoffs, the bandwagon will still be open to Raider lovin’ Campbell haters.
If not, then 2012 will be the last year of his contract and he’ll have to battle to keep is job or be gone.
Overall, changing QBs and HCs in the recent past hasn’t worked for $#*+! So root for stability.
Long live Jackson & Campbell!
Be patient Raider Nation.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Gotta run guys. Good discussions.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:13 pm
probowl or no probowl is pointless……..let’s play some great football and probowls will take care of themselves. If he goes to a probowl I wouldn’t even care Cassell went to a probowl and I’ll say right now that JC is better than Cassell. Orton went to probowl is he some great QB?? hell no!! going to a single at QB is almost not that hard VY went as a rookie you telling me is a great QB?? the probowl is a joke!……….period
If we win 11 games I can almost gaurantee you he will go to the probowl just on that alone. That’s how much the probowl sucks.
June 21st, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Kirk Morrison led the AFC in tackles 3-4 years and never made a probowl because he was on a losing team that wasn’t good vs the run. Matt Millen was a domiannt MLB and never went to a probowl as a Raider because he wasn’t friendly to other teams players and teh media.
The probowl is a popularity contest………….period
June 21st, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Well said priesttj. So to coin a phrase put forth by KoooooooooolKell, the pro bowl is: ALL HAT AND NO CATTLE. Yeah.
All I care is the Raiders win 11-14 games this year. Don’t care how they do it, pretty or ugly, just get it done. Get the first round bye, get home field advantage through out and march into Indy and take the Lombardi and Coach Davis is a happy man!
June 21st, 2011 at 11:23 pm
…and if you check the QB free agent lists and potential QB draft lists for the next two years, you wont find anyone far superior to Campbell.
Sydney Rice over Chad Chochastinko
June 21st, 2011 at 11:25 pm
No disrespect to Chad. He’s just preparing for retirement and Sydney is on the upswing …and the last name was too funny to keep to myself (for those who speak a lil’ spanglish)
June 21st, 2011 at 11:26 pm
tj,bingo!I cant remember if Plunk made the Pro Bowl his first SB year.And he should be in the Hall, screw the Pro Bowl
June 21st, 2011 at 11:34 pm
The reason there are not more Raiders in the Hall of Fame (Plunkett, Lester, Flores etc.) is because the NFL demands parity. That’s right. They’ve tried (but unsuccesfully) to level the playing field and have extended it to Canton.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:08 am
Man fk a damn pro bowl…..VY made pro bowl and his teams didnt make playoffs! AFC has manning brady flacco big ben and rivers as qbs….u really expecting JC to be a pro bowler? AIG you arent being realistic at all! Your hate overspills and kills any great football insight you bring. And how many times have you heard me say this year is no excuses? For anyone!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 am
And MR….HOW MORONIC CAN YOU BE?…….. when I talked and compared Gannon and JC it was based on their first seasons in Oakland you assh–e which is very relevant. Gannon’s MVP season….farce one at that…….was his fourth season you lil nancy boy! You put your idiocy on display daily and I chop ur BS with ease! Did you know after 99 gannon was gonna be MVp? Fk no! And JC is a 60 pct comp Qb you dumbass. And ur punk ass said in April Grad has more mobility which a goddamn lie!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:21 am
And I dont care if Hue or Cable made the switch….it fked up the season for us. We make playoffs had JC played all 16 games. WRs need timing and chemistry with the arm of the qb. Every qb tosses the ball different…..dont think Louis Murphy was only one pissed JC got benched for Miami game. Word was damn near entire locker room was against it!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 am
Grad gets love for the measley Pitt game in 09 but JC gets dogged for posting a winning rec in 2010. You people are amazing
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:49 am
Bauce that’s why I love boy! my main man Bauce y’all pay attention ya’ heard!!
Adios!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:21 am
And I dont care if Hue or Cable made the switch….it fked up the season for us. We make playoffs had JC played all 16 games.
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dude, you dont even make any sense. It’s late so you must be drunk. Why was he benched? He was playing so great that they decided to bench him at the wrath of Al Davis? not once but 3 times in 1 season?
oh btw, I’ll take your long ramble on why JC will not make the probowl as an admission that you’re even expecting much from JC this year. Even Al Davis is not stupid enough to throw an extension to JC this offseason.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:08 am
Man fk a damn pro bowl…..VY made pro bowl and his teams didnt make playoffs! AFC has manning brady flacco big ben and rivers as qbs….u really expecting JC to be a pro bowler? AIG you arent being realistic at all!
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BS!!! Matt Cassell made it into the probowl as a chef last year. I am certain he was not more popular than Rivers. I am also certain his WR’s were not top echelons in this league. Stop with the effin excuses. I have never seen so many effin excuses made for one guy.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:02 am
JB,
JC had 5 probowlers and a 7th ranked D and still couldnt get it done in DC.
He was yanked 3 times last season with the Raiders. He has 3 rookies starting on the Oline this year according to Bauce. We certainly aint going to get a probowler at the WR position. What makes you think we are going to be any better in 2011?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:05 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:23 am
Grad gets love for the measley Pitt game in 09 but JC gets dogged for posting a winning rec in 2010. You people are amazing
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Grad came in and rescued that fck’d up game that JC started vs STL. Why do you think he got love from even Hue? You’re so frickin in love with JC that it blinds you. I still remember you dumping JC’s stock after the SF game. Didnt you write something like “AIG props to you. You called it right about JC?”
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 am
No worries fellas. I’m pretty sure JC will help me win my argument this year…again.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:53 am
No worries fellas. I’m pretty sure JC will help me win my argument this year…again.
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Unfortunately, JC will help you win the argument – but he’s not gonna help the Raids win games.
Best we can hope for is he goes along for the ride and the rest of the team carries his sorry azz.
This is one argument I’d love to lose.
Anyone know if Al was at the owner’s meeting yesterday ?
Be a good sign if the old man attended personally, but I suspect he probably sent Amy.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:44 am
Lol AIG…you know its bad when you using Cassell as some pro bowl evidence. Cassell only played as a replacement. Brady Rivers and manning were selected first! Let all 3 play and where is Cassell in Hawaii? So expecting JC to top those 3 along with Flacco and Big Ben for that is asking too much…..not realistic. I got you on this one lol. Cassell move was not well played Mauer
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 am
It seems a lot of Grads supporters ignore the fact that he had over a year of experience with the offense, learning the system & terminology, plus getting familiar w/ the players, etc. He had a head start on the changes to the playbook that Jackson implemented as well. Yet, he was inconsistent and the offense was too. Of course, Campbell had some rough outings, especially early on, but wouldn’t you expect that from a guy who’s learned a new system virtually every year going back to college?
I read someone mention the throw he made against KC and how Ford bailed him out, but what about that wounded duck that Murphy went up and caught in PIT? Or the sure INT that was dropped just before? Or the Murphy TD where he was wide open and had to come back several yards and wait for Grads’ pass to arrive, almost leading to Murphy being stopped short of the end zone.
And as for the SF game, it was terrible, but Campbell was also hurt & responded with some pretty good games in the next few weeks.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:52 am
Didnt Big Ben miss 4 games last year? Lol….AIG you losing bad here. Cassell is knocked down another notch cuz he didnt outplay Ben. And you damn sure know Flacco is better than Cassell so this thinking JC will be superior to them is nuts
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:55 am
Excuses? It was JC’s first damn year here and offense turned completely around whether you like it or not. And i keep telling your ass repeatedly now that 2011 is here its time to win division no excuses. go check archives man
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:59 am
Duh of course I was livid at JC after niner game I WENT TO THAT FCKIN GAME so think about why the anger was fierce? Use your brain. But 3 game win streak and his good finish to season bought him time to be our Qb. The body of work by him for 2010 was best we had in years from that spot
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:03 am
And here is where I bust you in half……Grad came to rescue for STL game and didnt do a fkin thing the rest of the season! Not one fkin thing! He started our next two losses and was on way to third if he didnt get hurt! Hue first year OC IN oakland panicked plain and simple and did it again and was made a fool of at home for it!
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:07 am
Thee offense scored 10 pts vs phins at home…..home now……in front of their wild and loud crowd. Miami is a 3-4 team and barely blitzed us. Think about that now…..let it marinate. See awful pct and turnovers at home in pivotal game? That blew up in Hue’s face
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 am
And im sure the LA faction can dig this…..remember october 1993 vs Jets? I was a kid and Hostetler was sucking that day. raiders were on way to losing 3 straight after a 2-0 start. In comes Vince Evans and we win. Who starts next week? Hoss does! A win on MNF vs donkeys on road! Raiders went to 2nd round that year.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:13 am
Extension talk again…..as I said this is JC’s puut up or shut up year! How many damn times do I have to say it?
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:18 am
And I stand by what i said…had JC started from AZ on we finish better than 8-8. He started in 7 of our 8 wins. How dont you Grad lovers see that? …….i’ll check your responses later
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 am
86.meeze Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
3rd and 2: mcfadden, bush, or jones? i chose bush
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June 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 am
It seems a lot of Grads supporters ignore the fact that he had over a year of experience with the offense, learning the system & terminology, plus getting familiar w/ the players, etc.
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We ran the Tom Cable offense last year??
Who knew!!!
Can’t wait to see the Hue Jackson offense, lol.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 am
I’ve been on the record A TON, saying I don’t think we should bring back Bruce and that it is obviously Soup’s earned year to start.
The point of my post last night, was to show that I have very deep-rooted concerns, because of the obvious stinkers that Jason Campbell has ALL THE TIME. He had 4 absolutely awful games last year, out of 13 games he played in (almost 33% of his games). Some of them bordered on the historically bad.
As bad as Bruce’ start was against Miami, it was terrible, Soup has a 5 year NFL track-record of doing that about once a month. This past season, it was a worse pace, as it was at least once a month.
If the Raiders don’t make the playoffs this year, it will because of one reason, they hinged their young talent and season on a QB with career 40% winning percentage who has never led his team to even a meaningful week 16 win, better yet week 17 or the playoffs.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 am
When JC was benched at halftime of week 2, he was the #34 ranked QB in the NFL, out of 35 eligible QB’s.
Guys rarely, if ever, transition from those levels to elite QB levels.
They can claw back to the middle of the pack, Soup finished #19 rated QB, but that’s Soup.
Middle of the pack at best.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 am
Soup had a QB rating of 10, 26 and 43 last year.
Tom Brady’s last start with under a 50 QB rating, was November of 2006.
Matt Ryan has had one career start under a 43 QB rating, which was his 2nd NFL game.
It’s been 3 years since Big Ben has posted a sub-50 QB rating.
And so on, and so on.
That’s what scares the piss out of me with Soup. When he is off, he is so bad, we can literally lose to anybody in the league. He gets in these funks, where he has the glossy-eyed stare, and puts up numbers that Jamarcus Russell couldn’t even pull off, and he was wasted the whole time!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 am
Current CBA expires next week, right?
then what?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 am
Spurs shopping Tony Parker?
trade him to the Lakers for Pau Gasol & D Fish!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 am
Bynum/Odom/Artest/Bryant/Parker
if you still can’t get it done … shop KB next offseason, because he’s done
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 am
Sporting News has the Warriors drafting Marcus Morris in the 1st.
Would love that, than maybe add Sheldon Mack, Demetri McCamey, Maurice Morris or Jamie Skeen in the 2nd round.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 am
Interesting piece on Jimmer in there as well.
Guess he is lighting up the Basketball scouting combine (who knew they even had one).
He benched more than any other G and more than some of the forwards. Vertical was not great, but better than some expected. And he outsprinted almost every PG there, including Brandon Knight who is considered one of the faster guys in the draft.
No way Utah passes on Jimmer. Just can’t see that happening.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:19 am
Have we lowered our bar of expectation in Oakland so badly?
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I probably have when it comes to the QB position. All I ask for these days is a decent game manager. Pro Bowler at QB??? In Oakland????? I just don’t see it.
BUT ….
Campbell is clearly the best QB we have had in Oakland in a LONG time. I realize that may be a lot like saying Cooper Carlisle was our best Olineman last season.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 am
Mornin nation!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JFB, Rockstar…top of the morning to ya!
Spurs shopping Parker? Really? Well, the ex-Mrs Parker aint aroung no more, so…lol…j/k…that woul dbe a good pick up, but probably need more than Parker!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:21 am
Sorry….Good Morning J Hill, Cain!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:25 am
Morning guys… he is some food for thought to those here that were glad to Cpt Kirk leave Oaktown.. maybe they see now that it wasnt his fault but the damn d-line..
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/21/tackling-linebackers/
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:29 am
Well JFB you got a point. BUT if the running game is on an defense plays well
then we won’t need much from Jason campbell
ie;see brad Johnson in Tampa 2001-2
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 am
Wow Kam wimbley made the list. But no Romac
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 am
Kirk Morrison led the league in tackles as a Raider. I not quite sure what insight that article brings to the argument.
How many yds did McFadden rush for when we played against him this year? How many big plays and TDs did our running game produce?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:39 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 am
And im sure the LA faction can dig this…..remember october 1993 vs Jets? I was a kid and Hostetler was sucking that day. raiders were on way to losing 3 straight after a 2-0 start. In comes Vince Evans and we win. Who starts next week? Hoss does! A win on MNF vs donkeys on road! Raiders went to 2nd round that year.
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I remember that season. We played Denver to end the season then the following wee in the playoffs
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 am
The one thing the anti JC crowd agrees on is how bad our pass protection was last year.
I’m still waiting on an example of a QB who plays in the NFL under the same circumstances that you would like to see JC more like?
An Oline that is arguably the worst in the league, and a WRs like Murphy and DHB starting. Who’s the QB out there with tools like that that is producing?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:46 am
With the receiver core being an abundance since we picked up a couple more…what happens to JLH? Well, since that hit from Weddle that Monday night against SD…he has NEVER been the same…
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:47 am
J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 am
Kirk Morrison led the league in tackles as a Raider. I not quite sure what insight that article brings to the argument.
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you dont???? he missed 1!, ONE tackle!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:47 am
Better question: Who makes the 53 roster?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
Between Capt. Kirk and Howard and you had to let one go, who would it have been?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
JFB,
When we talk about that backfoot play from JC, and you look at how Walker got beat on that play, I just see an instant upgrade at RT by inserting Barksdale. Rookie and all, I don’t see him getting beat to the inside when that is his only responsibility. Those are the between the ears errors I won’t miss.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 am
So what he missed one tackle. No one ever said he couldn’t tackle. You don’t lead the league in tackles if you can’t tackle.
The issue was his angles, shedding blocks, and making impact plays. He said it himself. Famous for making the tackle 8 yds down the field instead of in the hole.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:53 am
I thought Howard should’ve been starting over Groves. Wouldn’t have minded keeping Morrison over Brown.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 am
JLH ?????
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Moore
Ausberry
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 am
Morning Raider Nation!
Seems I opened a major issue yesterday just by mentioning Grads wedding which will take place in the church where my daughter goes to school. I might go just for the fun of it.
Though I was a Grads supporter last year, the crater he caused in soups psych gives me apprehension on bringing him back. Bruce would have to be the ultimate supporter of JC and hide his desire to start. When Campbell craps out as he will, Bruce would have to say it’s Jason’s job and when he returns, he will support JC.
No 1 reason for JC starting, $3 mil+ 2 yr deal vrs $1.8 mil 1 yr deal. After this year successful or not, the Raider’s do not retain JC as a FA. Imagine having to tag him with the Brady and Manning contracts and having to pay him top $ for his sorry talent. Jason is gone after this year.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 am
463.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 am
JLH ?????
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Moore
Ausberry
That’s why I changed the question to who do you think stays on…or do we keep them all?
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 am
ie;see brad Johnson in Tampa 2001-2
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R8ercain,
Johnson in 2002 had 22 TD’s and only 6 int’s.
Made the Pro Bowl (for the second time), had the 3rd highest QB rating in the league that year, and he had played and won a few playoff games before that year.
Not a fair example to where Soup is at in his career.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:20 am
Don’t want to jinx it but how about them A’s…can Bob Melvin bring them back to at least respectability this year?
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:23 am
93.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Bush is not a hammer.
Part of the reason we lose that AZ game, is that Bush could not punch it in from the 1 yard line.
McFadden is way more physical than Bush and a very good short-yardage back.
Bush is a beast in the open field to bring down, but he tip-toes around the LOS sometimes too much.
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Damn right!
McFadden should have been allowed to score 5 TDs vs the Broncos, but the coaching staff decided they had to throw a couple of bones to Bush and Reece with their 1 yard runs. Total BS. McFadden is more powerful going into the LOS than either of those guys. He should always be our goal line runner.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 am
5 rushing TDs that is….6 total.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:35 am
In regards to Campbell, and JC only, at this stage of his career, he has to step up and play well from the opening game in order to earn the respect of his teammates. No slow starts but crisp and in command of his position from the opening snap.
As soon as training camp opens, the objectives of the trainers should be to avoid the hamstring pulls that will be inevitable due to the lack of offseason workouts. McFadden is prone to them and if we are fortunate to get Nnamdi back, he had one last year. Remember, it took Revis almost all year to get back after injuring his after holding out and this off season must be treated as a giant holdout.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
Wolves want Bynum for the #2 pick?
LMFAO too funny. What is that GM smoking?
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:44 am
Cuban might buy the Dodgers????
I don’t think I would have a problem with that.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 am
hwnrdr Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:48 am
Between Capt. Kirk and Howard and you had to let one go, who would it have been?
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well I dont agree, I dont see why “you had to let one go”? dont get me wrong I like Ronaldo, but what does he bring that Kirk and Howard didnt have? answer: NOTHING..
So again its a 1st round pick wasted by Al.. the problem Ronaldo, Kirk, Howard and Groves problem is the same, our d-line suck…
if you have a flat tire, it doesnt make any sense to buy new rims… fix the problem and then upgrade! well thats just credo, but we wont let logic come in the way of Al’s decision making
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 am
463.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 am
JLH ?????
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Moore
Ausberry
That’s why I changed the question to who do you think stays on…or do we keep them all?
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Chaz time is up, he will not see the 53man roster..
why? because he will get injured getting out of the car…
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 am
Zach Miller is our #1 WR.
No doubt we need him back.
It is not an option and if someone says let him go and take Pryor in the Supp. Draft I am going to slap them with 12 inches of limp smoked sausage! : )
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
If Chaz can go he stays and they play him this year. Why? Because they are paying him cheap for what he could produce right now.
If he gets hurt after this season he is done!
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474.La Milicia Negra Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 am
hwnrdr Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 am
463.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:55 am
JLH ?????
Chaz
DHB
Murphy
Ford
Moore
Ausberry
That’s why I changed the question to who do you think stays on…or do we keep them all?
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Chaz time is up, he will not see the 53man roster..
why? because he will get injured getting out of the car…
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:59 am
McCount has separated Dodger Stadium and ticket revenues from the Dodger team. MLB had approved the past deal. He stated today that he will retain those assets in event MLB seizes club. Cuban says he would have to see what was incleded. New owner might have to pay rent, get no parking revenues and pay McCourt $29 mil from tickets. (per L.A. Times). Article called “McCourt fires shot across Bow..”
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:01 am
Good morning fellas!
JB excellent posts man! I have to agree with just about everything you pointed out.
As far as JC goes he’s never going to be a pro bowler imo. There’s just too many great qb’s to beat out. Manning, Rivers, Schaub just to name a few. Just like a few others noted the oline needs to help keep him standing upright to succeed. I agree with JB that you don’t need a pro bowler to get to the biggest game of their lives, but a game manager and a strong run game. Wr and o line need to do their part as well to help move the chains. Like Bauce says, you have to fight for every yard!
Whoever is in for Qb i’m hoping they suceed. I don’t think Hue shows any favortism, if JC Is struggling, i think he’ll take him out to get his head on straight. Just like in basketball, you’re off and start hacking, you need to take a seat and get your head back in the game.
I main concern is the oline this year, it starts with those big fellas. If they can control the line of scrimmage, we score points. If not, then we’re in for a long year! I honestly don’t think it will be that bad, just need to get this thing going and build some chemistry with these younger guys.
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 am
I think JC is going to step up and have a great year. He is a smart player, he works hard and he some success at the end of the season with a coach that helped make that success happen. He took a leadership role during this lockout and he has had a year under his belt working with his WRs.
I think he has a number of weapons on this tema that can make big plays off a quick slant or like Ford have shown that they can go up and make a play on the ball. That is a huge confidence builder for a QB.
I really think JC has the best QB mechanics then any of the QBs we have had on this team since Rich Gannon. I can’t wait! : )
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:17 am
Regarding my point of benching JC was based on last year. As of now i don’t think it’s a good idea seeing we don’t have another option. Lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:33 am
I think JC will do just fine this year. I just hope the whole attitude of the team doesn’t just go down the drain and the team does NOT build on the success of last year…
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 am
football is on the way, the deal will be done. There is no way the nfl wants to miss a chance to cash in on the 9/11 opening weekend. Nor would they want to lose any pre season, where they collect the same money at the gate yet dont have to pay players for the games. Now we will find out the answers to some key questions.
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:57 am
Thanks for the news flash little tard.
Like we didn’t already know the NFL would lose money if they didn’t play the games.
Wow you should be a reporter for the retard times!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:58 am
If Chaz can go he stays and they play him this year. Why? Because they are paying him cheap for what he could produce right now.
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I like the kid, but what could he produce?
5TDs in 3 seasons WOAW, LOL
or is the fantastic yardage? never over 400 yds.. only 631 in total… LOL
or the worst part, we cant count on him because if we scheme with him in mind, because he will get injured…
he is done, his body cant handle it, but if it could he would be a great guy to have on the bench!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
In today’s NFL teams can win with a dominant defense or a dominant offense. Because of free agency and the salary cap its either one or the other.
This year the Raiders can make some moves to get dominant on offense, while the defense looks like it will be bend-not-break at best.
On defense, Rolando McClain could improve on his rookie season, but there may be too many holes for this squad to dominate games. For one, if Micheal Huff and Nnamdi Asomugha leave, there will too many holes in the secondary.
The defensive line is deep in terms of pass rush, but this corps has been unable to stop the run consistently since Sam Adams was signed in 2002.
The linebacking corps has also struggled in pass coverage and the team was unwilling to incorporate Thomas Howard in passing situations and remianed with pass-rush oriented outside linebackers.
If the Raiders can’t control time of possession on the offensive side of the ball, teams will probably continue running at the middle of this defense and find the holes in coverage.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:13 am
What will Hu jack Saunders, & JC be like together? Hu jack proved to be a very good play caller last year. Taking our offense from the worst in the nfl all the way into the top 10. I thought he got a little too cute at times (the wild cats), and too vanilla at others ( sf, indi) how ever i believe as he got a better feel with his team he improved as the year progressed. I also noticed that the players seemed to improve as they started to have some very clearly established roles by the end of the year. Hu jack did an excellent job with shaping the game to his players strengths.
As players began having succes in their roles their confidence grew, and thier production increased. Im thinking of JC, Dmac, & ford in particular. hu jacks ability to form relationships and build trust with people is a key a reason I beleiev he will succeed. he has the early trust from Davis, backed by the production he brought to the dance last year. Davis had to love what we did in the afc west, and all the points we scored. davis sees another young coach with exceptional talent and he is letting him run with it.
Hu jack and Saunders is also a great idea. Saunders is renowned for his work with qb’s and wr’s, and his legendary playbook. he also has a solid relationship with JC from their days in wash. Hu jack and Saunders are vertical offense experts, with tons of lightning quick speed at their disposal. With better o-line play this team could do a lot of damage.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Maybe Hue will get Thomas Howard back into the defense. I dont think Groves is better than Howard at Will. Neither is spectacular against the run, but Howard is much better in coverage.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:19 am
What do you think will happen at free safety. I’m not as worried about CB because we drafted in that direction and were not great even with Aso–29 tds given up I think.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 am
Kim Newton is “REVOLUTIONIZING” the NFL…..I know he hasn’t played a down in this league yet….but I think the way he wears his sunglasses shows how he will dominate!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 am
Now that Hu Jack and Davis have drafted for the o-line, how soon will the kids see the field? How good, or bad will they be when they do? Last year our offense was severely hamstrung by the o-line play. because we didnt have the horses to truly install our power offense we ran a lot of zone as well. The power running game was evident at times, dominant in spots, and non existent at others. because of the dmac’s incredible (soon to be pro bowl) talent we still managed to be the number 2 rushing offense. Now that we have drafted the young hogs will wee see the power scheme predominantly? If so Dmac’s numbers will be better than last year.
Can we pass protect? Last year was abysmal, clearly one of the worst pass protection units in all of football. If the young guys arent an upgrade we will be in trouble. Davis and Hu jack have gambled by drafting young guys for the line starting with Campbell & veldheer and letting gallery and others walk. I dont know if the raiders are going to go out and spend big money on a free agent for the o line. The raiders are clearly saying that they think these kids can play. We will all find out soon enough.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
W’s should trade Ellis for Josh Smith or trade Ellis and the #11 to Minny for Love and the #2 overall?
Derrick Williams is going to be a stud! The Cavs are going to look like idiots IF they draft Irving and all the “experts” will also.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:33 am
Go A’s! Melvin has them fighting back and I’m glad they sent down that dead weight Barton!
Weeks is a stud!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Kirk Morrison missed just a single tackle in his 79 attempts last year
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LOL @ Capt Kirk haters!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:37 am
492.DKnight007 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
W’s should trade Ellis for Josh Smith or trade Ellis and the #11 to Minny for Love and the #2 overall?
Derrick Williams is going to be a stud! The Cavs are going to look like idiots IF they draft Irving and all the “experts” will also.
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I agree that I Williams is the best player…but if the Wolves are not willing to trade Love for Gasol they are not going to trade Love for Ellis. Never trade big for small in the NBA.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:37 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:18 am
And I stand by what i said…had JC started from AZ on we finish better than 8-8. He started in 7 of our 8 wins.
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BS!!! Why didnt JC started against AZ? Why did Hue Jack wanted to bench him even in the Tenn game? Excuses excuses excuses.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Let me repeat again and again….
JC had 5 offensive probowlers and a 7th ranked D….Still can’t get it done in DC.
Will the 2011 Raiders produce 5 offensive probowlers and a top 10 D?
I’d love to hear how JC will get more wins with less talent than he had in DC. I got all day.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 am
471.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
Wolves want Bynum for the #2 pick?
LMFAO too funny. What is that GM smoking?
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Bynum and the Lakers 1st Rounder this year and next year for the #2 overall. Lake show gets DERRICK WILLIAMS baby!!
Yeah….yeah….yeah!!! hahahaha
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:44 am
How many yds did McFadden rush for when we played against him this year? How many big plays and TDs did our running game produce?
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The Raiders rushed for 147 yards on 25 attempts and DMAC had 2 rushing TD’s (5.88 ypc)
The Jags rushed for 234 yards on 34 attempts and 2 scores (6.88 ypc)
If you take away the 74-yard TD run by Jennings to make the stats look better, you also have to take away the 51-yard TD run by McFadden
Advantage J-Ville. The Jaguars didn’t almost lose because of Kirk. He had the most tackles of any player on either team (7)
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:46 am
498.DKnight007 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 am
471.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:39 am
Wolves want Bynum for the #2 pick?
LMFAO too funny. What is that GM smoking?
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Bynum and the Lakers 1st Rounder this year and next year for the #2 overall. Lake show gets DERRICK WILLIAMS baby!!
Yeah….yeah….yeah!!! hahahaha
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I hope you are kidding. 2nd best C in the NBA and two first rounds for the Wolves #2 overall who might be Derrick Williams? Plus trading our only chip in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes that are about to start?
No friggin way!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:46 am
495.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:37 am
492.DKnight007 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
W’s should trade Ellis for Josh Smith or trade Ellis and the #11 to Minny for Love and the #2 overall?
Derrick Williams is going to be a stud! The Cavs are going to look like idiots IF they draft Irving and all the “experts” will also.
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I agree that I Williams is the best player…but if the Wolves are not willing to trade Love for Gasol they are not going to trade Love for Ellis. Never trade big for small in the NBA.
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The Wolves would be stupid not to trade for Gasol actually. They have enough young guys. They need a solid vet with skills like Gasol.
Gasol and Artest and the Lakers 1st Rounder this year for Love and the #2 overall!
Yeah baby!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 am
aig-raiders Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Let me repeat again and again….
JC had 5 offensive probowlers and a 7th ranked D….Still can’t get it done in DC.
Will the 2011 Raiders produce 5 offensive probowlers and a top 10 D?
I’d love to hear how JC will get more wins with less talent than he had in DC. I got all day.
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That is a pretty bullet proof argument…
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 am
Lakers are going to get Dwight Howard!
Write that down people! Yeah baby!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:48 am
The Wolves would be stupid not to trade for Gasol actually. They have enough young guys. They need a solid vet with skills like Gasol.
Gasol and Artest and the Lakers 1st Rounder this year for Love and the #2 overall!
Yeah baby!
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That is more like it from our perspective….but no way the Wolves trade the great white hope Kevin Love….those Norwegians would revolt.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 am
I like Ronaldo, but what does he bring that Kirk and Howard didnt have? answer: NOTHING..
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LMN,
this is exactly what I said after we drafted McClain. I never said that he was a bust, but I still beleive that he was a wasted pick (as in not needed)
KM was due like $2.5 million and we drafted a MLB in the Top 10 and gave him $40 mil ($23 mil guaranteed)
How much did our Run Defense improve? 2 spots
Should have given Morrison a better supporting cast. Guys like Houston, ShoNasty, Wimbley & Groves as starters might have made a monumental impact (not to mention Seymour at DT)
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
The Raiders rushed for 147 yards on 25 attempts and DMAC had 2 rushing TD’s (5.88 ypc)
The Jags rushed for 234 yards on 34 attempts and 2 scores (6.88 ypc)
If you take away the 74-yard TD run by Jennings to make the stats look better, you also have to take away the 51-yard TD run by McFadden
Advantage J-Ville. The Jaguars didn’t almost lose because of Kirk. He had the most tackles of any player on either team (7)
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Dont discount the screen pass that McFadden took 70 yards for a score in that game. Did Kirk perform better in 2010 than Rolando. YES. But not by much, considering Kirk is a (5th?) year pro and McClain is a rookie transitioning from a 3-4 to a 4-3
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:54 am
Kevin Love is so incredibly overrated.
If his name were Kevin Robertson and he was a black dude, nobody would care much about him, IMO. Just being real.
Solid glue-guy, will never be a #1 or #2, and maybe #3, scoring option for a perennial playoff team.
And defensively??? Abysmal.
But hey, he can clean up the glass in a 20 point blowout like no other!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:54 am
Lakers are going to get Dwight Howard!
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for what?
Orlando won’t be satisfied with the Chaz Schilens of basketball (Bynum) alone
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
How much did our Run Defense improve? 2 spots
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2 spots AND 20 yards a game.
If we can shave 20 yards off a game again this year, we will be right around the middle of the pack.
Kirk played like crap in the Jax game as well. TWICE, the announcers highlighted Kirk’s lack of gap control in giving up a TD to D-Mac.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
502.bcz24 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:47 am
aig-raiders Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 am
Let me repeat again and again….
JC had 5 offensive probowlers and a 7th ranked D….Still can’t get it done in DC.
Will the 2011 Raiders produce 5 offensive probowlers and a top 10 D?
I’d love to hear how JC will get more wins with less talent than he had in DC. I got all day.
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That is a pretty bullet proof argument…
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I think we can all agree that JC is not the long-term option, but for 2011 what better options are there? Brett Favre? Orton? Weak-azz armed Kolb? Garbagekowski? J Russell? Smith from the 49ers?
There is a serious shortage of talented QBs right now, so I would rather go into 2011 with JC who has at least been here a year. We all know that he will very very very rarely put the team on his shoulders and win games, but hopefully he can manage to keep handing the ball to McFadden and Bush and keep us on the winning track.
The much more serious concern is an o-line of Veldheer, Loper, Rookie, Campbell, & Rookie.
If we don’t sign some veterans as insurance and those rookies and second year players (who have had no offseason to improve by the way) don’t pan out then we are dead in the water. Our only strength is our run game. Our WRs suck, our QB is average at very best, our run D sucks and our pass D wasn’t very good and now we are losing Huff and Nnamdi.
This year could be a major step back depending on how the shortened free agency period goes for us.
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:58 am
I pray the Warriors can get Kwahi Leonard from SDSU.
And are the Kings really going to give up their lottery pick for Tony Parker??
Parker and Drive-by Evans in the same backcourt??
Feel sorry for the other 3 guys who will never get a shot up.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 am
509.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
How much did our Run Defense improve? 2 spots
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2 spots AND 20 yards a game.
If we can shave 20 yards off a game again this year, we will be right around the middle of the pack.
Kirk played like crap in the Jax game as well. TWICE, the announcers highlighted Kirk’s lack of gap control in giving up a TD to D-Mac.
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Only reason our run D improved even that tiny bit was because teams actually had to try and score some points for us thanks to Hue and McFadden…had nothing to do with McClain….if we can’t run the ball thanks to the rookies and second year guys on the o-line then I fully expect that our run D will plummet to 2006 levels.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 am
Let Bush tip toe his ass out of here. Keep McFadden in for all three downs and in goalline situations. Taiwan will be the change of pace back.
Miller needs to be offered a new deal. He is very good.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 am
The Jags rushed for 234 yards on 34 attempts and 2 scores (6.88 ypc)
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Yeah, that Ricky Brown is no Kirk Morrison.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:00 am
509.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
How much did our Run Defense improve? 2 spots
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2 spots AND 20 yards a game.
If we can shave 20 yards off a game again this year, we will be right around the middle of the pack.
Kirk played like crap in the Jax game as well. TWICE, the announcers highlighted Kirk’s lack of gap control in giving up a TD to D-Mac.
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Only reason our run D improved even that tiny bit was because teams actually had to try and score some points (against) us thanks to Hue and McFadden…had nothing to do with McClain….if we can’t run the ball thanks to the rookies and second year guys on the o-line then I fully expect that our run D will plummet to 2006 levels.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:01 am
Did Kirk perform better in 2010 than Rolando. YES. But not by much, considering Kirk is a (5th?) year pro and McClain is a rookie transitioning from a 3-4 to a 4-3
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BCZ,
I admit that there is room for ROMAC to grow and I certainly hope that that’s the case. Al Davis wants to win RIGHT NOW. Otherwise, why would you make Dick Seymour the highest paid defensive player in the NFL? A rebuilding or even “reloading” team doesn’t do that. Same with tagging Wimbley & overpaying Routt
AD turns 82 next month and said he wants to win 3 more Super Bowls before he steps down as GM. There is no room for error or hiccups. No patience to develop guys that didn’t come in ready to make an immediate impact
Morrison will probably be better than McClain for the next 3 years imo. Thats a 4-year downgrade for about 10 times the price
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:01 am
and just say “No!” to ocho-stinko.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
Miller needs to be offered a new deal. He is very good
just say “No!” to ocho-stinko
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agreed with No Mas Diapers
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
I dont think we will just stay put in free agency. We will bring in some people. I dont think Al lets Huff and Nnamdi leave. We are going to lose 1 but I dont think both. I also think that at least one OL is in the plan if not more.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:09 am
Its time to rise and grind for Jc. JC showed incredible heart last year. His game was very shaky early in the season, and he took a physical beating getting injured all the way back in the pre season with what would become a reoccurring stinger through the year. He was benched by the coach, booed by the home fans, and trashed by radio host, writers, and bloggers. JC handled it like a pro, worked hard and got better as the year went on. he eventually would lead his team to a few blow out wins , a couple of come from behind victories, and even a 3 game winning streak along the way. JC has earned the respect of his teammates and coaches the hard way, by producing the w’s and the numbers. This has been fun watching him take the leadership role for our offense, and the team is clearly following his lead as evidenced by the camp that he and big rich hosted for the team.
JC is a good game manager and I would agree with the brad johnson comparison on one hand. How ever Jc is more than a game manager , he is a play maker as well. JC made plays outside of the pocket, he threw on the run, ran for first downs, and yes checked down and audibled at the right times for big plays.
now that Jc is in his second year with Hu jack and his teammates, and JC is the single voice in the huddle there is a leader on offense working in perfect concert with the head coach & play caller. Finally he has a chance to master the offense and flourish, as Hu jack shapes it to fit his strengths. Lots of fans dont care for or believe in JC, but that hasnt diminished the faith or the back from the raiders from davis on down. This is also a contract year for JC, and being a vet and having been traded, you can be sure he knows its all or nothing for his career at this moment.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:11 am
Only reason our run D improved even that tiny bit was because teams actually had to try and score some points for us thanks to Hue and McFadden…had nothing to do with McClain….if we can’t run the ball thanks to the rookies and second year guys on the o-line then I fully expect that our run D will plummet to 2006 levels.
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The offense definately helped the rushing defense in 2010, our defenses YPC was 4.5 in both 2009 and 2010.
Our 133 ypg rush D last year was our best per game average since ‘05 though (LOL).
That’s not all on the offense. McClain no doubt adds a much more physical presence in the middle than Kirk ever did, and he was 21 years old.
His talent seemed pretty obvious to me, you can argue just about got better each week.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:15 am
For all you draft experts regarding the Lakers, they have NO 1st ROUND pick in this years draft. LMFAO
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
The only trade the Lake Show can do is Pau + our 4 second rounders for Love, the #2 and Rubio plus next year’s #1.
Draft is only a day away, not too early to start cranking up the PARTYBRO 8500! Suck it, McCourt!
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:16 am
His talent seemed pretty obvious to me, you can argue just about got better each week.
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I can’t believe this is even a discussion. McClain is a CLEAR upgrade over Morrison.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:17 am
I would feel much better about our prospects if we signed a Tyson Clabo or Gaither to play RT and Matt Light, Carl Nicks or Harvey Dahl at one of the Guard positions.
I hope I am wrong, but I think our C position with Wiz is going to be a downgrade….and I am not even a big fan of Satele.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:20 am
Ocho-stinko, no matter the distractions, is a better receiver with one hand tied behind his back than anything we have. I love Jacoby Ford and his explosiveness, but he is NOT at #1 possession type of receiver. If we try and use him that way he will be killed by week 3. Murphy is ok, and a decent slot guy. DHB gets 1 more chance to prove himself but I think its more likely that Nnamdi stays for free than DHB becoming a star. Chaz just sprained his ankle getting out of the shower and will be out until July of 2013. Nick Miller and Higgins dont even make the team this year.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:21 am
Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 am
This year could be a major step back depending on how the shortened free agency period goes for us.
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Yup. Agreed. Al has been pretty good at staying ahead of the curve on contracts. But it doesnt look like he is ahead of the curve this time. He can’t be happy about this new rule. I imagine he is one of the few owners reported not to be happy with the proposal.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
Santana Moss would be a much better option than Ocho or Owens. We need a solid vet WR that can mentor the young guys.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
519.bcz24 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:04 am
I dont think we will just stay put in free agency. We will bring in some people. I dont think Al lets Huff and Nnamdi leave. We are going to lose 1 but I dont think both. I also think that at least one OL is in the plan if not more.
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Hope you’re right. We have a solid core right now and if Al can get some good FAs we might make playoffs. But we do have some holes to fill:
Offense
Veteran WR
Veteran OL
Fullback
Defense
OLB
DT
Safety/CB
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:28 am
aig-raiders Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 am
Santana Moss would be a much better option than Ocho or Owens. We need a solid vet WR that can mentor the young guys.
hell no not the steroid guy no to Santana
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’d take T.O. over Ocho….they are both pains in the Azz, but at least T.O. produces.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
What exactly is the concern with our Oline? Rookies step in and play on the Oline all the time.
Do you think they will not know the play book?
Will the be physically overmatched?
Other than the fact that our Oline is young, what’s the problem?
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
raider talk the d-line is fine as it is 5 sacks for each guy most top 3 in sacks last yr
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:31 am
We wont be touching the FB position. I would argue that there are MAYBE 10 true blocking fullbacks left in the NFL. Al and Hue are not going to address FB when we have one capable of scoring from anywhere on the field. Besides in short yardage situations I still think we could plug in Bruce Campbell and get a better push than most FBs in the league.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:33 am
Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’d take T.O. over Ocho….they are both pains in the Azz, but at least T.O. produces.
at this point i would take either a real possession guy
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:34 am
Ocho produced until TO came to town.
And the problem with our oline is that there are too many young guys. 2 second year guys (one of who never took a snap in an NFL game as an olineman) 2 rookies and Loper. That doesnt exactly enstill confidence.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
D-line has not had a true run-stopper at the DT position since they signed Sam Adams in 2002. Seymore is good in spurts for pass rush but not DT on this team can consistently pulg the middle.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
AIG…..WASHINGTON dc is over……JC is in Oakland. We talking 2010 and beyond. This shows you are losing bad. And again I said Hue panicked and fked up for it. You getting hammered so bad you skip over my posts lol. hue panicked and AZ and Hou games we paid for his error. JC wins those games no doubt. Grad turns it over and passes for not a high pct!
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
85’s contract is not up, and Cincy is not just letting him go. Not even sure why he keeps coming up.
Until Chaz actaully gets hurt, we are not signing a FA WR. Ford, Murphy, DHB, and Moore are ALL going to play. That’s not even counting Chaz and the reps Jones gets in the slot at WR.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
532.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
What exactly is the concern with our Oline? Rookies step in and play on the Oline all the time.
Do you think they will not know the play book?
Will the be physically overmatched?
Other than the fact that our Oline is young, what’s the problem?
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No offseason OTAs for the rookies to learn the system or the second year guys to imrove their skills and with 4 of the guys projected to be rookies or second year guys you don’t see the concern?
lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Raidertalk……Seymour is a good player but he is out of position…..Id prefer him be the UT next to Houston on the right side with henderson at the NT
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
DHB doubled his production from his first year to second, and the results were meagerly tantalizing. Can DHB continue the trend and double his production again in his third year? If DHB can catch 55-65 balls this year would you still consider him a bust? I would kill to have a couple of recever with 60 plus catches and a few td’s.
Can murphy improve his game? Can Chaz the glass stay healthy, and what can he do if he does stay healthy? he hasnt been on the field long enough to establish a role or show what he can and cant do on the field.
The new blood is also going to push the competition. We already know that ford is an explosive play maker. If we can can find one of our young receivers step up and match ford it could be a very potent combination.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
“JC showed incredible heart last year.”
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Yeah, the ’slide’ in Tenn was a galvanizing moment. What heart ! What desire !
I know when he slid 2 yards short of the first down (when he could have easily made it) the entire Nation was amazed at that display of heart and collectively exclaimed ‘Jason wants it, he’s here to play !’.
Yup, when Jason is mentioned in NFL circles, the first thing that comes to mind is ‘he has incredible heart’.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
539.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
85’s contract is not up, and Cincy is not just letting him go. Not even sure why he keeps coming up.
Until Chaz actaully gets hurt, we are not signing a FA WR. Ford, Murphy, DHB, and Moore are ALL going to play. That’s not even counting Chaz and the reps Jones gets in the slot at WR.
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“The Bengals youth movement at the receiver positions has likely squeezed 33-year-old Chad Ochocinco out of a job in Cincinnati. It’s doubtful that Mike Brown will be willing to pay him the $6 million owed in 2011 when they have A.J. Green, Jerome Simpson, Jordan Shipley, Jermaine Gresham and Andre Caldwell on the roster, especially considering that Ochocinco is coming off one of his worst seasons (831 yards and 4 touchdowns).
Ochocinco doesn’t have very good trade value because of his lack of production in 2010 and his high salary. If the Benglas were able to trade him right now, they probably wouldn’t get much at all for him. Because of that, there’s a decent chance that they’ll just release him when the lockout comes to an end and pay him about half of the $6 million. If that happens, where will the 10-year Bengals receiver play his 11th season?”
ESPN’s Adam Schefter
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
Jhill……lol Chad has played his last down in Cincyy. They dont want him back and he dont wanna go back
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:46 am
543.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
“JC showed incredible heart last year.”
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Yeah, the ’slide’ in Tenn was a galvanizing moment. What heart ! What desire !
I know when he slid 2 yards short of the first down (when he could have easily made it) the entire Nation was amazed at that display of heart and collectively exclaimed ‘Jason wants it, he’s here to play !’.
Yup, when Jason is mentioned in NFL circles, the first thing that comes to mind is ‘he has incredible heart’.
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LMFAO TOOO FUNNY!!!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:49 am
544.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
539.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:40 am
85’s contract is not up, and Cincy is not just letting him go. Not even sure why he keeps coming up.
Until Chaz actaully gets hurt, we are not signing a FA WR. Ford, Murphy, DHB, and Moore are ALL going to play. That’s not even counting Chaz and the reps Jones gets in the slot at WR.
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“The Bengals youth movement at the receiver positions has likely squeezed 33-year-old Chad Ochocinco out of a job in Cincinnati. It’s doubtful that Mike Brown will be willing to pay him the $6 million owed in 2011 when they have A.J. Green, Jerome Simpson, Jordan Shipley, Jermaine Gresham and Andre Caldwell on the roster, especially considering that Ochocinco is coming off one of his worst seasons (831 yards and 4 touchdowns).
Ochocinco doesn’t have very good trade value because of his lack of production in 2010 and his high salary. If the Benglas were able to trade him right now, they probably wouldn’t get much at all for him. Because of that, there’s a decent chance that they’ll just release him when the lockout comes to an end and pay him about half of the $6 million. If that happens, where will the 10-year Bengals receiver play his 11th season?”
ESPN’s Adam Schefter
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HAHAHA go and c-walk to that Jhill
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Kirk Morrison missed just a single tackle in his 79 attempts last year
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LOL @ Capt Kirk haters!
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yup!
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 am
No offseason OTAs for the rookies to learn the system or the second year guys to imrove their skills
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No OTAs for anyone to learn the NEW SYSTEM including any potential FA signings.
I think the 2nd year guys are working on their “skills”. Pretty sure they have some type of personal coaches and a tree or two they could wrestle.
I thought Satele, Carlisle, Gallery, and Walker all needed to be replaced. You’re not going to here me complain now that they have been.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 am
YoungAmerican Says:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
LeRon McClain?
Manny Lawson?
Harvey Dahl?
Tyson Clabo?
Sidney Rice?
now this is a powerful f/a list if we could get all this i say afc championship atleast
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 am
I like Ronaldo, but what does he bring that Kirk and Howard didnt have? answer: NOTHING..
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LMN,
this is exactly what I said after we drafted McClain. I never said that he was a bust, but I still beleive that he was a wasted pick (as in not needed)
KM was due like $2.5 million and we drafted a MLB in the Top 10 and gave him $40 mil ($23 mil guaranteed)
How much did our Run Defense improve? 2 spots
Should have given Morrison a better supporting cast. Guys like Houston, ShoNasty, Wimbley & Groves as starters might have made a monumental impact (not to mention Seymour at DT)
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so twue…
when Callahan said the raiders was the dumbest team in NFL, im start thinking he meant the shirt and tie-fellas..
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:52 am
Yeah, the ’slide’ in Tenn was a galvanizing moment.
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That had to be the single worst moment of the season for me.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
I think it was ExlaRaid that trotted out the oft repeated and incredibly absurd proposition that having a backup QB that wants to be the number 1 QB on the roster damages JaJason’s psyche.
Imagine, an NFL QB that can’t handle the pressure of a backup QB wanting to take his job.
Some of the crap put out here to make excuses for JaJason is beyond belief.
This year, if the Raids don’t get a viable backup the excuse will be ‘JaJason didn’t have anyone to push him’.
Unreal.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
Just for you Kell
This is the 99 box score vs Vikes
http://www.footballdb.com/boxscore/1999091907
See Moss scores no TD?
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
A lot of decent chances and I doubt’s in the report on 85. I said we should’ve traded Mike Bush for him 2 years ago. I’ve given up on 85 coming to Oakland.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
549.J Hill Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 am
No offseason OTAs for the rookies to learn the system or the second year guys to imrove their skills
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No OTAs for anyone to learn the NEW SYSTEM including any potential FA signings.
I think the 2nd year guys are working on their “skills”. Pretty sure they have some type of personal coaches and a tree or two they could wrestle.
I thought Satele, Carlisle, Gallery, and Walker all needed to be replaced. You’re not going to here me complain now that they have been.
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You think a rookie will pick up on an new NFL system as quickly as a seasoned vet? LMAO
Yeah, and I am sure all of them have hired personal o-line coaches and are practicing in their back yards right this minute lol.
Crazy talk.
Those guys needed to be UPGRADED, not just replaced. Loper is not an upgrade to Gallery, Wiz was a reach in the second round and wasn’t that liked by many scouts so it is doubtful he will be an upgrade over Satele….the only thing we know about Bruce Campbell is that he can run fast for a big guy….
Drafting a rookie and placing him next to vets is one thing…..having 4 out of 5 starters as rookies or second year guys is a bad idea.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:01 am
Yeah, and I am sure all of them have hired personal o-line coaches and are practicing in their back yards right this minute lol.
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So you think a work out warrior like Campbell is sitting on the couch playing Madden?
You think Veldheer is laid up in Oakland somewhere?
I think THAT is crazy talk to assume these guys are just bums. I hope you are very wrong about that.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:01 am
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=231116013
2003’s game vs Vikings…….check it out Kell….got a link?
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
The slide in tenn, followed by the debacle in sf, were definite and clearly distinguished moments of failure for the team and for JC personally. These were Low points that earmarked the early struggles.
JC came back from those moments, and had some great moments during the rest of the year. This is where he showed incredible heart. It was a come from behind win with his back to the wall. It was playing while injured to lead us to victories. Ultimately it only secured a shot for this season, which means the story is still being written. So far so good, lets see if the trend continues upward.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
I think Wiz will settle down by mid-year, and have a rookie year similar to Rolando’s. Solid, progressing, still room for improvement
Definite learning curves, and on the job training though. Remember, he didn’t even play Center last year in college!
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Of course we need a backup Ninerwoman49…..but not to replace JC. This is JC’s job in 2011 get over it you wimp
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
559.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:02 am
The slide in tenn, followed by the debacle in sf, were definite and clearly distinguished moments of failure for the team and for JC personally. These were Low points that earmarked the early struggles.
JC came back from those moments, and had some great moments during the rest of the year. This is where he showed incredible heart. It was a come from behind win with his back to the wall. It was playing while injured to lead us to victories. Ultimately it only secured a shot for this season, which means the story is still being written. So far so good, lets see if the trend continues upward.
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Now watch the BS Ninerwoman49 and AIG come with on this…..someone else did this andf the running game this blah blah blah blah……WINS? I saw em happen more with JC than any other QB in his first 12 starts in Oakland since 95
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
You think a rookie will pick up on an new NFL system as quickly as a seasoned vet? LMAO
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The last guy I’m worried about is Wiznewski. Coming from a JoPa coached team, and his uncle being in the picture give him the benefit of the doubt, imo.
I think a LT from LSU can play RT for us. What is there to pick up that is so difficult? Block the damn DE! We got rid of the guy who ran a choreographed Oline dance.
I think by the time we get to the midway point of the season, our Oline will be just fine. In the interim, I don’t see an issue with run blocking, but there very well could be some pass protection issues. Not sure how that is any different from last year.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:07 am
Soup definately earned the right to be the starter for 2011, and expectations should be fairly high. Winning the division or not will decide whether the season was a failure or not.
But excuse the f out of me for being a tad concerned Mr. Soup ain’t ready for it.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 am
541.Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:41 am
Raidertalk……Seymour is a good player but he is out of position…..Id prefer him be the UT next to Houston on the right side with henderson at the NT
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I agree, but John Henderson is not physically able to play 16+ games at DT, he is pretty old.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 am
RT was a major issue last year, especially in pass-protection.
However, with the people that it seems ready to play there next year, I see no reason why it still won’t be an issue (at least at times) in 2011.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
******Get it straight we are not the same franchise****
Some of you cats are still not listening.
I repeat Al is NOT going to get – TO, OCHO, or draft Pryor in the supp. draft. The days of Oakland going after PR nightmares are over.
Look at our drafts we are going after talent and character. Look at our free agent signings they are the same way.
This is not the same old Oakland Raiders philosphy. We go get locker room guys with talent and yes speed is still a factor. But we are not just taking any old loud mouth talent with a once upon a time resume or a rookie with smoke and mirrors play.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
And for all you Grads riding JC haters still out there. Get ready for him to shock each and every one of you.
I predict a very productive year for JC.
JC I am in your corner bro!!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Remember a few years back when T Howard snagged a bunch of interceptions ?
Kirk and Thomas were doing a very nice job of taking deep drops and actually holding on to picks and mounting returns. Pretty sure Morrison and Howard had more interceptions than the entire secondary combined.
Howard, in particular, showed superb speed and the ability to cover backs and sometimes even WRs up the sideline on pass routes.
Howard mystifies me. I mean, the guy is a first round pick – his play wasn’t spectacular, but it wasn’t entirely horrid either. It doesn’t add up that he completely dropped off the radar. It would seem there has to be some packages where his talents could be utilized.
I suspect something went down behind the scenes that we’re not aware of.
Or maybe the Raider coaching staff decided that Howard celebrating a tackle 8 yards downfield, that gained a first down, when the Raids were down by 20 points, was too embarrassing to put up with.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
You haters made every excuse and every prediction on how you thought Grads will be great and he was the next Gannon, blah- blah- blah!!!! But all you do is shoot down JC.
He is every thing big money Russell was not and you are still hating on the guy every chance you get. Where is the optimistic attitude for JC?
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Can’t forget that year but you said it yourself great for interceptions but their drops were to deep and they could not come up and stop the run. They never got a chance to take their game to that second level.
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569.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Remember a few years back when T Howard snagged a bunch of interceptions ?
Kirk and Thomas were doing a very nice job of taking deep drops and actually holding on to picks and mounting returns. Pretty sure Morrison and Howard had more interceptions than the entire secondary combined.
Howard, in particular, showed superb speed and the ability to cover backs and sometimes even WRs up the sideline on pass routes.
Howard mystifies me. I mean, the guy is a first round pick – his play wasn’t spectacular, but it wasn’t entirely horrid either. It doesn’t add up that he completely dropped off the radar. It would seem there has to be some packages where his talents could be utilized.
I suspect something went down behind the scenes that we’re not aware of.
Or maybe the Raider coaching staff decided that Howard celebrating a tackle 8 yards downfield, that gained a first down, when the Raids were down by 20 points, was too embarrassing to put up with.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:22 am
Howard was not a 1st round pick.He was drafted in round 2.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
I think Al Davis made up his mind Howard was no good, and that was that.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 am
So I’m watching ESPN America here in the UK and guess what: The Boston Red Socks are on.
They’re playing San Diego and I don’t like SD since I’m a Giant fan but I’m actually pulling for the f’kn Padres because I hate ESPN’s obsession with all Boston teams more.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:27 am
cj i feel u jc will be ok he’s working hard so what more do we want
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
What will our secondary look like? Will Nam stay? If nam stays there is no doubt that our secondary will improve. I think Nam & woodson will work well together in practice and in the meeting room. Im sure woodson will enjoy putting Nam in position to make a few plays this year, and push Nam to improve his own game. Nam will make the young dbs we have drafted better.
If Nam leaves, it will be much tougher on the secondary as young guys will get thrown into the fire right away, sink or swim. How far will MM34 and Brown progress? Branch and huff are huge question marks at safety. A flop at the safety position and Nam leaving could spell disaster.
Im curious to know how or if ware has improved, and chekwa and dvd are both guys that i like. Routt has never been one of my favorites but he was better than serviceable last year. He was fairly solid, im eager to know if he can put together back to back fairly solid years.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
Yeah, great spelling.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
Thanks, Lefty. I believe you’re correct. 2nd rd.
Did the Raids have a first that year or was Howard their first selection ?
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Thomas Howard. I remember when I viewed him and Morrison as the next great LB duo in the league, both young and fast, great in coverage, chase down plays sideline to sideline. Well, he did drop off, I mean he could play weak side … he is better than Groves !!!!!!! But he is a great special teams player and humble enough to accept that role and contribute on D when asked. I like how the team is coming together. If John Henderson is healthy we will be much improved on run D. Sadly it comes down to our QB. Not much hope there.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
570.CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
You haters made every excuse and every prediction on how you thought Grads will be great and he was the next Gannon, blah- blah- blah!!!! But all you do is shoot down JC.
He is every thing big money Russell was not and you are still hating on the guy every chance you get. Where is the optimistic attitude for JC?
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What the hell does tha that mean fool?
I never saw anyone on this blog saying that Bruce would be great–just better than JC.
Where’s the cheering for Campbell?
The only cheering he ever got was his first series in Washington.
The guy’s an average quarterback man, you want people to cheer for average?!
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
The jury is still out on JC I don’t know how else can you look at it.
If he can stay healthy, play an entire season, give us a 10-6 record, complete 65% of his passes, throw 25 or more TD’s without throwing more than 15 INT’s then yes he did well and should be our starter in 2012.
Anything less then we will be looking for a new QB in 2012.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Bauce,
JC would have won against Hou and AZ? hahahaha lfmao. When has JC ever won a game when our run D didnt show up? hmm…Niners and JAX?
How did JC do against the Niners? You were there. By your logic, Alex Smith is better than JC because he beat him. ARe you willing to admit that. Yeah I’m losing badly.
DC is the past and 2010 is now? Well in 2010 JC got benched 3 times. He posted his worst game of his career in 2010. Well there’s improvement for you. It’s so frickin easy to poke holes at JC’s defenders.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:36 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
“JC showed incredible heart last year.”
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Yeah, the ’slide’ in Tenn was a galvanizing moment. What heart ! What desire !
I know when he slid 2 yards short of the first down (when he could have easily made it) the entire Nation was amazed at that display of heart and collectively exclaimed ‘Jason wants it, he’s here to play !’.
Yup, when Jason is mentioned in NFL circles, the first thing that comes to mind is ‘he has incredible heart’.
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Nailed it.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:41 am
570.CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
You haters made every excuse and every prediction on how you thought Grads will be great and he was the next Gannon, blah- blah- blah!!!! But all you do is shoot down JC.
He is every thing big money Russell was not and you are still hating on the guy every chance you get. Where is the optimistic attitude for JC?
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I don’t hate JC and hope he succeeds for my Raider’s. But the bottom line is I don’t think he is more than an average NFL QB and 10-6 will not change my mind. I do hope he makes me eat my words.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
The jury is still out on JC I don’t know how else can you look at it.
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The jury’s still out?!
What the hell is wrong with the jury?
Campbell’s a competent manager of a safe game.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
How do Romac, goethel and wimbly fit together? Is Moss a legitimate option at lb or will he be strictly a specialist and depth. Im looking for romac to take a big step forward. he was another guy that improved as the season progressed. he was up down like most rookies will be at times. He also flashed some very good play, and was steady by the end of the year. This year I expect him to be more of a force now that he is in his second year in the 4-3.
The competition between groves goethel and moss should be fun in pre season but we need better play from that position with out doubt. here is to hope that one of our guys can step up.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:46 am
2 outcomes for JC.
1. He has a great year and by virtue of being a FA, goes elsewhere as the franchise tag will be too expensive. (The average of the top 5 QB’s Eli and Peyton Manning, Rivers, Brees, Brady)
2. He craps out and Raiders cut him.
Either way, he plays for another team in 2012
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
The only guy that will give JC a fat contract is Al Davis. Nobody in the league is dumb enough to do that except Al Davis.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
I don’t think Al Davis is very interested in retaining Huff.
Huff did have his best year. He showed the ability to disguise and time his occasional blitz very well.
But his game still has holes and there were too many instances where he was the goat giving up big plays.
Started in pre-season when Matt Forte clowned him.
Then there was the missed tackle against Jax. Very weak.
And although the 5 safety scheme against Jax was crazy, it was Huff that was positively smoked for the long TD pass.
Yup, Huff’s best season, but there’s no way his production has matched his number 7 overall draft status.
Mike’s raked in the big bucks for very little return.
I think Huff is out of here, along the lines of Gallery.
Top draft picks that made the big bucks, eventually put out a little on the field, and expect to continue to earn top dollar.
Adios Miguel.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
575.big oak boy Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:27 am
cj i feel u jc will be ok he’s working hard so what more do we want
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“..what more do we want..”?!!!!!!!!
Are you SURE you’re in the Raider Nation?!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
“The guy’s an average quarterback man, you want people to cheer for average?!”
And you question my statement that the jury is still out?
COME on man!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
“Campbell’s a competent manager of a safe game.”
““The guy’s an average quarterback man, you want people to cheer for average?!””
Which is it?
Or maybe you have 2 personalities?
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
if we get the vet wr we need jc probowl
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
666,
I think England was being sarcastic which is typical Brit stuff.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
573.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:24 am
I think Al Davis made up his mind Howard was no good, and that was that.
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It took that old fart long enough.
To be fair Vegas, there was a time when everyone on here thought that Morrison and Howard were great but that was just in comparison to the rest of the defense.
Seymour is a real example of what a Raider should be–and used to be.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
592.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
“Campbell’s a competent manager of a safe game.”
““The guy’s an average quarterback man, you want people to cheer for average?!””
Which is it?
Or maybe you have 2 personalities?
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Now why would anyone want to limit themselves to two personalities. You don’t eat enough fish.
There is no contradiction there Oakglen.
Campbell is an average quarterback and why should anyone-ESPECIALLY the Raider Nation cheer for average?
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Rant for the day-
90% of the comments on here are about how someone doesn’t like this player,or this player needs to be replaced,we need to bring in this FA or that FA.Are there any players on this team that people who comment here like?Hell,I even read comments complaining about Seymour,Nnamdi,and Z.Miller.While I do believe almost everyone here are Raider fans(there are those we know who aren’t),I have to wonder how people who are fans can dislike almost everyone on the roster and,it seems,to actually root for those players to fail.Even if you aren’t totally behind a certain player,shouldn’t you as fans be rooting for them to succeed so the team can be successful?Is it more important to be right,or for the team to win?Sometimes when I read these comments I wonder where peoples priorities are.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“Campbell is an average quarterback and why should anyone-ESPECIALLY the Raider Nation cheer for average?”
which is exactly what the Jury is still out means KoolKell/Englandraider
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
No way Leonard falls to W’s at 11.
It’s going to be Singleton, Thompson, Hamilton or Burks for the W’s at #11.
The Queens should get Leonard. They also need a vet at PG. The Queens need leadership on that team!
Then the Cavs need to take D Williams #1 overall and then take a PG in Knight or Walker at #4.
THAT’S how you draft and build a TEAM! They will regret taking Irving #1 overall if they do.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Yeah, I guess the jury is still out on JaJason.
Lucky for him I’m not the foreman of that jury.
Guilty of sucking.
If the QB is schit, we must not acquit.
Course, there’s still Debo, and he’s holding out for a hung jury on JaMoron !
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
598.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“Campbell is an average quarterback and why should anyone-ESPECIALLY the Raider Nation cheer for average?”
which is exactly what the Jury is still out means KoolKell/Englandraider
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LOL!
I like jazz but that’s the only similarity.
I’ll hope for the best Oakglen but Campbell’s performance is going to be a repeat. It’s what people do.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Re:lefty12 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Rant for the day-
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guess this was skipped over: I don’t hate JC and hope he succeeds for my Raider’s. But the bottom line is I don’t think he is more than an average NFL QB and 10-6 will not change my mind. I do hope he makes me eat my words.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
601.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
598.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
“Campbell is an average quarterback and why should anyone-ESPECIALLY the Raider Nation cheer for average?”
which is exactly what the Jury is still out means KoolKell/Englandraider
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LOL!
I like jazz but that’s the only similarity.
I’ll hope for the best Oakglen but Campbell’s performance is going to be a repeat. It’s what people do.
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It’s the only similarity except for two other very important things:
1. We’re both veterans.
2. We’re both in the Raider Nation.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
I think its more likely that Nnamdi stays for free than DHB becoming a star
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LOL @ BCZ
Ouch!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Wonder what Morrison and Howard would have looked like as out LBs with Williams Brothers (Tackles, Vikes) in front of them?
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Chaz just sprained his ankle getting out of the shower and will be out until July of 2013. Nick Miller and Higgins dont even make the team this year.
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Schilens is an injury settlement waiting to happen
JLH = Free Agent
Nick Miller has to battle Damola Adeniji, David Ausberry & Shaun Bodiford (if we keep a 6th WR)
I’ll take T.J. Housh, Plaxico Burress or Terrell Owens to join DHB, Murph, Ford & Moore
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Wonder what Morrison and Howard would have looked like as out LBs with Williams Brothers (Tackles, Vikes) in front of them?
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@Dutch
Ray Lewis & Terrell Suggs
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RR-once again you are showing your humor,right?
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Lefty,
if politix were pro QB’s
Jimmy Carter = JaMarcus
Bush SR = Stabler
Reagan = Plunkett
Clinton = Gannon
GWB = Jason Campbell
Barook vs McCain = Aaron Brooks vs Kerry Collins
Print That
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Wassup Lefty!
Sorry to hear about your dad.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 pm
George Bush Senior equals Snake Stabler?
I like you Roctstar but that’s the most ridiculous comparison I ever heard.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
One guy being shopped around is Raymond Felton, with the Nuggets. They are sold on Ty Lawson. The Lakers are reportedly interested, although hard to see the Nuggets helping out the Lakers and filling a real need for them. How about Felton to Sacramento for the No. 7 pick?
The Timberwolves have continued to listen to a number of offers for the No. 2 pick, one rumored one of Roy Hibbert and the 15th pick from the Pacers was shot down by Larry Bird. There are a lot more No. 2 pick rumors out there, from a lot of teams.
One that will not happen, anything involving Pau Gasol and the Lakers
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/21/nba-draft-rumor-roundup-for-tuesday/
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Kirk Morrison was terrible.
If he was ANY good, do you really think Al gets rid of a local home grown Raider?
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/22/report-brown-wants-lakers-to-get-anderson-varejao/
bwahahahahahahahaha !!!!
please let this be true. I can’t think of a better place for this clown to land.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Rarely do QB’s 7 years into their career finally become great. Rich Gannon lol oddly enough a great example of that. But he was a great athelete (drafted to play DB) and had fire inside him to get responses from his teamates. He also was a film room nut, perfectionist and he had 2 of the top 3 best WR’s of all-time in Rice & Brown. JC needs to outwork every QB in this league because he doesn’t have the instincts and natural abilities. He must be the most prepared guy on the field every game and manage his gameplan to stsay inside of what he capable of. That means he better be more adequate at the line of scrimmage with audibles and D reads. That being said he has viable options to throw to and a great run attack, he could go 12-4. Jake Delhomme did that 3 years ago with Panthers. They had DeAngelo Williams and Stewart in backfield. Jake came prepared and played within himself made his team 12-4 and home field in playoffs, losing to kurt warner cards. I can only hope Jason does the same to help his team become leathal.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bynum only started 47/82 games last year and averaged 11 PPG plus a career low FT %
T’Wolves would be crazy to trade the #2 for this guy …
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
581.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
The jury is still out on JC I don’t know how else can you look at it.
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Anything less then we will be looking for a new QB in 2012.
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NOW you’re talking.
Armond was on here a week or so ago saying how he’s give up quite a lot of picks including 2012’s 1st to get Luck.
I thought that was too much but on second thought Al, go for it!
Get Andrew Luck and screw the whiners!
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:47 pm
that’s the most ridiculous comparison I ever heard
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ENGLAND,
I’m talking about production, not habits or personality
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
One that will not happen, anything involving Pau Gasol and the Lakers.
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Not yet anyway.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Since 2005, Bynum has missed 160 games due to injury
that’s darn close to 2 full seasons!
In comparison … Tim Duncan has only missed 25 games since ‘05
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
16 games from JaJason like the one against SF, and Luck is ours !
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Sarah P@lin = Donald Hollas
Ron Paul = Todd Marinovich
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Production Rockstar?
Well, OK if you’re talking about his military career but as president he was just an OK followup to Reagan but he definitely wasn’t really Reagan.
Personally I love the guy, still jumping in his eighties! Something I just don’t want to do anymore.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hilary = Jay Schroeder
Cheney = Vince Evans
Romney = Jeff Hostetler
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
If you mean production in regards to imprisoning people for drugs while allowing them to be sold at the same time, then yeah, I’d compare George H.W. Bush to Joe Montana. He was the best.
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Romney = Jim Kelly
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
16 games from JaJason like the one against SF, and Luck is ours !
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16 games from JCamp like the ones against Denver & Seattle (Weeks 7-8) and a Super Bowl trophy is ours!
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Fox News = Al Davis
@bama = Marcus Allen
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
616.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bynum only started 47/82 games last year and averaged 11 PPG plus a career low FT %
T’Wolves would be crazy to trade the #2 for this guy …
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Yeah, I am sure Bynum would not do any better points wise if he were the #1 option on a team like the Timberwolves instead of the #4 option like he is with the Lakers.
The injuries are a concern fo sho, but they were all freak accidents, so hopefully that problem will solve itself.
Obviously you have never watched Bynum play (insert injury joke here hahaha, whatever) but he has the best hands of any big man in the NBA unless you include Gasol….and his offensive game is much better than Dwight Howards, he just doesn’t get the ball in LA.
I would trade him for Dwight Howard or Lebron James or D-Wade….but that is about it. The kid is 23 or 24 years old. As soon as Kobe is out of the way he will be a 20+ pt 10+ rebound player.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Lincoln = Al Davis
KK = John Wilkes Booth
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
LOL @ MR!
your cousin = William Howard Taft
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
625.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
If you mean production in regards to imprisoning people for drugs while allowing them to be sold at the same time, then yeah, I’d compare George H.W. Bush to Joe Montana. He was the best.
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LOL!
MR, I’m going to guess that cops stoped by the trailer you and your mom live in during Bush SR’s presidency MR.
Name ONE president which your statement couldn’t describe.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
****England Raider*****
I can’t believe you had the audacity to call me a fool with all the foolishness you blog. I only read your posts when I want a good laugh. : )
JC will be a good QB I am not comparing him to Manning or Drew Breeze. I am comparing him to another good QB that can make plays, manage games and put his team in a good position to win. He has the potential to elevate his game and came on strong once Grads went down.
I can’t predict the future but I think he is going to do a “good” job managing the team.
By the way you are smoking the pipe if you think we have enough to trade to move up to get Andrew Luck, YOU DUMB @$$!!!! ; )
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
LOL!
Mr=Jimmy Carter!
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RRS = Mark Foley
RRS’s livestock = male teenage interns
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Obviously you have never watched Bynum play (insert injury joke here hahaha, whatever) but he has the best hands of any big man in the NBA unless you include Gasol….and his offensive game is much better than Dwight Howards, he just doesn’t get the ball in LA.
I would trade him for Dwight Howard or Lebron James or D-Wade….but that is about it. The kid is 23 or 24 years old. As soon as Kobe is out of the way he will be a 20+ pt 10+ rebound player
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trade Kobe for the #2 and #20 !
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
EnglandRaider, I know you’re trying to make funnies, but someone already used Jimmy Carter. See, these kinds of games require creativity.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
This just in:
Barney Frank volunteers for Weiner Probe! Film at 11.
I’m sure he also wants to “HEAD” the committee!!!!!!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
BSJ = Anthony Weiner
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
EnglandRaider, I didn’t grow up in a trailer park. You’re thinking of RRS.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
BSJ = Roman Polanski
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
This just in:
Barney Frank volunteers for Weiner Probe! Film at 11.
I’m sure he also wants to “HEAD” the committee!!!!!!!!
………..
Your mouth was probably watering as you typed that.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
MR got jokes today.
I like this personality better than when he was posing as that 49er fan ‘Male Cheerleader’ guy that constantly typed “whup whup” at the end of each comment
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
trade Kobe for the #2 and #20 !
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Throw in Beasley and Flynn and I would do that deal.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Dakota I hear you but don’t you think the more time on the floor, the greater the possibility he gets injured? I think Bynum needs a player like Kobie lighting a fire under this kids @$$.
I just have a hard time seeing Bynum as an elite player in this league.
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629.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
616.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Bynum only started 47/82 games last year and averaged 11 PPG plus a career low FT %
T’Wolves would be crazy to trade the #2 for this guy …
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Yeah, I am sure Bynum would not do any better points wise if he were the #1 option on a team like the Timberwolves instead of the #4 option like he is with the Lakers.
The injuries are a concern fo sho, but they were all freak accidents, so hopefully that problem will solve itself.
Obviously you have never watched Bynum play (insert injury joke here hahaha, whatever) but he has the best hands of any big man in the NBA unless you include Gasol….and his offensive game is much better than Dwight Howards, he just doesn’t get the ball in LA.
I would trade him for Dwight Howard or Lebron James or D-Wade….but that is about it. The kid is 23 or 24 years old. As soon as Kobe is out of the way he will be a 20+ pt 10+ rebound player.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
633.CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
****England Raider*****
I can’t believe you had the audacity to call me a fool with all the foolishness you blog. I only read your posts when I want a good laugh. : )
JC will be a good QB I am not comparing him to Manning or Drew Breeze. I am comparing him to another good QB that can make plays, manage games and put his team in a good position to win. He has the potential to elevate his game and came on strong once Grads went down.
I can’t predict the future but I think he is going to do a “good” job managing the team.
By the way you are smoking the pipe if you think we have enough to trade to move up to get Andrew Luck, YOU DUMB @$$!!!! ; )
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I am sorry.
Did I get you all upset.
No need to pizz your pants just because I think JC isn’t up to the job of being Stabler/Plunkett/Gannon or any other fukin QB you want to name!
So OK, I get it, you think that JC will be an average quarterback and will “manage games”.
Maybe when JC gets into trouble with an average pass rush all of us Raider fans could hold hands and sing songs just to inspire him.
That sounds really good.
Can someone who knows him text Snake and ask him if he thinks that’ll work?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
When the Raiders played the 49ers last year, it was Campbell who looked like the male cheerleader.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
642.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:07 pm
This just in:
Barney Frank volunteers for Weiner Probe! Film at 11.
I’m sure he also wants to “HEAD” the committee!!!!!!!!
………..
Your mouth was probably watering as you typed that.
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And you were bent over with vaseline and your pants down waiting for him to drive you around the block girlfriend.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Bynum = Chaz
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
640.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
EnglandRaider, I didn’t grow up in a trailer park. You’re thinking of RRS.
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Actually MR, there’s nothing wrong with trailer parks.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER
I have been here for about 6 or 7 years and I have always been SilverandBlack666.
Mistabrown calls me Oakglen because he had some serious issues with the guy and thinks it bothers me.
I know of the guy but not personally but I do remember him posting here.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
ExLAticketholdder, we’re just playing around man. Calm down. Sheesh.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I never said there was anything wrong with trailer parks. You implied they were bad, EnglandRaider, when you thought I grew up in one and tried to mock it.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Janet was hot
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Bynum = Chaz
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Ridiculous comparison.
We could trade Bynum for Dwight Howard type players.
I doubt we could get Vincent Jackson for Chaz.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
When I was 9
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
651.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER
I have been here for about 6 or 7 years and I have always been SilverandBlack666.
Mistabrown calls me Oakglen because he had some serious issues with the guy and thinks it bothers me.
I know of the guy but not personally but I do remember him posting here.
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OK brother 666, I sure wouldn’t want to call you something you’re not.
Actually, I always liked Oakglen but then I like a lot of people.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
The fact that you still have your name changed to embrace what’s been exposed about you just shows how profound the exposure was, Bo. That was weeks ago. You still come here every day bracing yourself for the outrage. In your mind you think you’re being bold, but it’s really a shameless attempt to normalize your perversion.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
653.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
I never said there was anything wrong with trailer parks. You implied they were bad, EnglandRaider, when you thought I grew up in one and tried to mock it.
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I think you’re misunderstanding me.
I meant what I said-I usually do-there’s nothing wrong with trailer parks.
I’m being sincere here jackarse.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
EnglandRaider, you showed us how you truly feel about trailer parks when you thought that I’d grew up in one, and mocked it. Try to backpedal all you want.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
652.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
ExLAticketholdder, we’re just playing around man. Calm down. Sheesh.
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As the late Chick Hearn would say, “no harm, no foul”
lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
lol. Alright, Exla. You just seemed a little excited, that’s all. And your subject matter…creepy.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Dakota I hear you but don’t you think the more time on the floor, the greater the possibility he gets injured? I think Bynum needs a player like Kobie lighting a fire under this kids @$$.
I just have a hard time seeing Bynum as an elite player in this league.
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Trust me.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I can’t recall who it was but yesterday on they compared Taiwan Jones to a Berry Sanders or someone similar.
I don’t see that in his game at all. He is a skinny dude with room to build on his frame. He did have some moves though. He reminds me more of Rocket Ismail in college than Barry Sanders.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Barney Frank = Glen Burke. lol
Just a joke someone texted me.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Bynum could not operate within the triangle. He needs to be the pivot in an offense. As Kobe ages, they need to get the ball inside.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Some of you guys text each other while you’re commenting here?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
660.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
EnglandRaider, you showed us how you truly feel about trailer parks when you thought that I’d grew up in one, and mocked it. Try to backpedal all you want.
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Jeeeze. Unbelieveable.
MR, I’ve never learned how to backpedal.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
How many of you guys know each other in real life?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
665.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Barney Frank = Glen Burke. lol
Just a joke someone texted me.
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More like Barney Frank = MR.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Tired legs killed Kobe in the playoffs. That’s why his shooting percentage sucked. Can not elevate as well when he has to play the minutes he did in his prime. Time to pass the torch.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
657.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
651.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:16 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER
I have been here for about 6 or 7 years and I have always been SilverandBlack666.
Mistabrown calls me Oakglen because he had some serious issues with the guy and thinks it bothers me.
I know of the guy but not personally but I do remember him posting here.
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OK brother 666, I sure wouldn’t want to call you something you’re not.
Actually, I always liked Oakglen but then I like a lot of people.
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666 is not Oakglenn, but Oakglenn still posts in here under other names….always has been a troll.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
First I was a meth addict from a trailer park, now I’m a politician from Massachusetts. This isn’t your day, EnglandRaider. You’re just off. Lacking wit. Log off, go for a walk, try again later.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MaddenRaider = The Dhond and the Bhittani of Pakistan
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Lefty (597),
Haters hate regardless. I guess they’ve been mad since ‘84.
Raiders are moving in the right direction.
The coaching staff has improved. The draft philosophy has improved. The players have more continuity.
Raider Nation can reasonably expect to be in the playoffs for the first time in too long.
I understand skepticism about winning next yrs SB
but there is no reason to hate right now.
GO RAIDERS!
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
673.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:40 pm
First I was a meth addict from a trailer park, now I’m a politician from Massachusetts. This isn’t your day, EnglandRaider. You’re just off. Lacking wit. Log off, go for a walk, try again later.
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Your wit astonishes me MR.
It’s amazing that the whole human race doesn’t just love you.
But that’s OK, mommy does.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Burn!
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:49 pm
(CNN) — “Jackass” star Ryan Dunn was drunk and speeding up to 140 mph when his 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 crashed and caught fire on a Pennsylvania highway early Monday, police said Wednesday.
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Well, at least the idiot only killed himself and the moron who got into the car with him.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Hey Dakota!
How’s the family and the new child?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MaddenRaider = The Dhond and the Bhittani of Pakistan
…………
This is a Raider blog. Even you don’t get that.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Westboro Baptist Church (God hates faqs) is protesting Dunn’s funeral. Looks like Rockstar’s got a busy weekend.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
680.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MaddenRaider = The Dhond and the Bhittani of Pakistan
…………
This is a Raider blog. Even you don’t get that.
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They are tribes in Pakistan that encourage incest between cousins to keep bloodlines pure.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
679.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Hey Dakota!
How’s the family and the new child?
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Doing great! Thanks for asking. Howie Worthy Dakota turned 16 months old just a couple of days ago….
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Doesn’t surprise me, Dakota. Bush allowed a lot of things to fester in Pakistan. O-bama has other plans. Already erased Bin Ladin.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I knew someone in Vegas at Enterprise Rent-A-Car who’s parents were supposedly part of that church in Topeka.
Only way his parents would support a “homo” or a “colored” (his words) is if they played KU basketball.
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
681.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Westboro Baptist Church (God hates faqs) is protesting Dunn’s funeral. Looks like Rockstar’s got a busy weekend.
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Was Dunn gay?
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
They supposedly hated Italians more so than any other ethnicity (his words again).
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Dakota, Rockstar’s Westboro church protests all kinds of funerals, no matter what the sexual preference of the deceased, to make the point that “god” punished them because America allows gays to exist. They usually protest military funeral for this reason. Ask Rockstar. He’ll tell you all about it. He’s probably painting up his sign right now.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
With regards to JC this might be his best opportunity to be a starter for a season and prove himself to be a legitimate NFL QB.
He has had many reasons/excuses as to why he failed in DC but Al and Hue gave him the key to the car now its up to him to drive.
I have my doubts (like EnglandRaider said) the past seems to repeat itself but I am staying optimistic and pulling for him to succeed.
We still need an experienced backup QB.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Wait a minute, Jason Campbell is our starting QB, and he still has to “prove himself to be a legitimate NFL QB”? That’s not a good prognosis.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
688.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Dakota, Rockstar’s Westboro church protests all kinds of funerals, no matter what the sexual preference of the deceased, to make the point that “god” punished them because America allows gays to exist. They usually protest military funeral for this reason. Ask Rockstar. He’ll tell you all about it. He’s probably painting up his sign right now.
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Oh yeah, I’ve seen them on TV….they were going to protest at the funerals of those killed in that Arizona shooting….but they backed off. Loons.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
“They are tribes in Pakistan that encourage incest between cousins to keep bloodlines pure.”
Another reason they do that is to keep the money in the family.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Raiders either need a proven winner veteran QB, or a un-proven young talented QB.
We do not need a proven loser veteran QB like all 3 of our QB’s are.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
693.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Raiders either need a proven winner veteran QB, or a un-proven young talented QB.
We do not need a proven loser veteran QB like all 3 of our QB’s are.
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Like Brett Favre? Or McNabb?
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
“That’s not a good prognosis.”
Would you agree or disagree?
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
You bring in a veteran QB to start for you, it’s because he’s “proven”. You don’t bring in a veteran to try him out. What are the Raiders doing?
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
683.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
679.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Hey Dakota!
How’s the family and the new child?
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Doing great! Thanks for asking. Howie Worthy Dakota turned 16 months old just a couple of days ago….
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Man time passes just too fast!
Enjoy every second Dakota.
It won’t be long before he’s a teenager and we all know how that’s going to be.
I’ve got film of me teaching my son how to play baseball, etc. Great memories.
Talking to a child as you would an adult really helps the child to develop.
Talking to them like they’re babies just turns them into whiner fans.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I can see EnglandRaider’s been at the pub. Drunken parenting advise, now.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
EnglandRaider’s kid talks with slurred words and yells a lot, since dad taught him to talk like him.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
696.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
You bring in a veteran QB to start for you, it’s because he’s “proven”. You don’t bring in a veteran to try him out. What are the Raiders doing?
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Let’s see, the draft had a bunch of crap QBs, especially be the time we picked, and the following are Free Agent QBs:
Hasselbeck
Bulger
Volek
Alex Smith
Kerry Collins
Tavaris Jackson
Troy Smith
Chad Pennington
Drew Stanton
Pat Devlin
Nate Davis
Rex Grossman
Jim Sorgi
Matt Moore
Trent Edwards
Matt Leinart
Just for fun throw in Kolb (weak arm, check down king, and expensive to trade for) McNabb (dumb and old) and Favre (dumb, Old and high maintenance)
I don’t see where we could have done better than Campbell for 2011. I don’t have great hopes that he will suddenly become an above-average NFL QB, but another year of him sounds better than the above-stated options.
Hopefully we can find something better for 2012, but Campbell was pretty much our only option for 2011.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:21 pm
698.RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I can see EnglandRaider’s been at the pub. Drunken parenting advise, now.
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Actually MR, that word is spelled “advice”.
Maybe before long some guy will give you a little advice.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Thanks for pointing out the typo, EnglandRaider. Now pass out. You’ve just been off today. Usually you’re marginally witty. Today you’re just all over the place and flinging dung. Sleep it off, man.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Ouch! See ya gentlemen laters…
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
687.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
They supposedly hated Italians more so than any other ethnicity (his words again).
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Is that the group that keeps insulting the families of veterans by yelling hate at them during the funeral of the veteran?
Let’s hope they get judged by God
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
The reason why the Raiders were put in the position of settling for Campbell in the first place, Dakota, is because of poor drafting in the past where need for QB was neglected. Phillip Rivers or Ben Roethlisberger could be Raiders’ QBs right now. Both are worlds better than Jason Campbell.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Alays hate to repeat myself, but I will in your case.
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Maybe before long some guy will give you a little advice.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Drunks often repeat themselves.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Hey Nerds, just finished getting reach arounds from a few of my ladies with Spandou Ballet’s “Gold” pumping on the sub woofers. Talk about taking it to the streets, huh?
So who here is ready for the Abort McCourt Reggae Party Cruise going down Saturday night? I’m waiting on a commitment from Brian (the Genital) and his grandpa Michael (Krappy) Kelly to serve shrimp cocktails and fresh margaritas while we Lambada to Frank’s demise.
Oh yeah and my sources tell me the Lakes are considering Pau and Steve Blake for Love, the #2 and the #10.
BE WITNESS TO THE UNIFICATION
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Raiders either need a proven winner veteran QB, or a un-proven young talented QB.
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Since no team is ever going to send us a quarterback who’s a proven winner, I’m going with Armond’s program to pile up the draft picks to get Andrew Luck next year.
That guy is the closest you’re ever going to get to a sure thing.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Rivers or Big Ben…..yeah, or Larry Fitzgerald in that draft too…..but Gallery was supposed to be a 15 year dominant LT! Who knew he would develop into an average LG?
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Well, Dakota, a real GM would have recognized our need for QB, and Rivers and Ben would have been given much more consideration. Gallery wasn’t the worst pick in the world. But considering our QB situation then, an aging Rich Gannon who was only going to play one more year, Kerry Collins, and Tui, you have to take one of those QBs. It’s a no brainer. But then again, Al has no brain. So I guess it makes sense.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
“Gold”! Ha ha!! You could have played it safe, Beecham, and went with Spandeau’s perennial bichin’ 80’s fave, “True”, but you went with the obscure follow up instead. You’re on fire.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Gallery was a servicable guard for the Raiders last year and was a big help to Veldheer.
Once the talks are over Gallery is heading to Seatle.
Since Satele is getting dumped, that means that Veldheer could be the only starter from last year to play next year.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
First round draft pick becoming nothing more than “serviceable” = BUST!
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@Dakota
You Podunkers up there beginning to understand Climate Change?
http://www.omaha.com/article/20110621/NEWS01/706229907/6449
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
This was directed at KK no doubt! Nice to see the libtards taking pop shots at each other.
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RAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Drunks often repeat themselves.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
KK,
Yeah floods have never happened before…..must be global warming, or cooling, or whatever Al Gore is calling it today.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I threw on True last year while getting a chill rim job, and it totally backfired – the chick ended up proposing.
If all you blog zeros haven’t done so already, get your Huey Lewis & The News tickets @ the OC Fair. I might have my ladies sell margs from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and deep fried Slim Jims in the VIP section.
Alright, going to scam on this bodacious Swedish babe in the pool lounge, wish me luck dorks …
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
You shoot for “serviceable” in rounds 3 and beyond.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
KK,
Yeah floods have never happened before…..must be global warming, or cooling, or whatever Al Gore is calling it today.
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Good, hopefully you will be more responsible with your votes.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
KK the Clown,
Is posting left wing global warming propaganda on a sports blog appropiate?
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KoolKell Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
@Dakota
You Podunkers up there beginning to understand Climate Change?
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:00 pm
717.Dakota Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
KK,
Yeah floods have never happened before…..must be global warming, or cooling, or whatever Al Gore is calling it today.
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Al Gore is calling it money in his bank account.
And he needs it to pay all those high utility bills caused by his extraordinarily high use of energy.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:02 pm
718.Master Beeecham Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:56 pm
I threw on True last year while getting a chill rim job, and it totally backfired – the chick ended up proposing.
If all you blog zeros haven’t done so already, get your Huey Lewis & The News tickets @ the OC Fair. I might have my ladies sell margs from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and deep fried Slim Jims in the VIP section.
Alright, going to scam on this bodacious Swedish babe in the pool lounge, wish me luck dorks …
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Good luck guy. May those dream continue.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Damn, just as the babe was getting ready to give me a quick hand jiggity under my towel her boyfriend cruised out and busted us.
The only consolation is she promised to buy me a Big Wave at Islands later on and then 69 in the parking lot.
I see Krappy finally got back from the gym (nap) or work (nap) and crapped his diapers over global warming.
Let the old goat beat downs commence!
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
621.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
16 games from JaJason like the one against SF, and Luck is ours !
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That seems unlikely, but I like the ending.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:10 pm
i say we take nate davis off the street and make him our backup so ninner fans cry the guy wasn’t bad at all but he is a slow learner
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
“With regards to JC this might be his best opportunity to be a starter for a season and prove himself to be a legitimate NFL QB.
He has had many reasons/excuses as to why he failed in DC but Al and Hue gave him the key to the car now its up to him to drive.”
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JaJason claims he’s an excellent driver.
So Al lets him drive slow on the driveway every Saturday.
JaJason also gets his boxer shorts at Kmart in Cincinnati.
Qantas never crashed, but JaJason continuously goes down in flames.
Three minutes til Wapner.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Fox viewers don’t believe in evolution.
Fox viewers believe Saddan Husein had something to do with 9/11.
Fox viewers don’t believe in climate change.
Fox viewers believe Saddam Hussein had WMD.
Fox viewers believe Education is a tool of the Liberal elite. (that’s why they are all stupid)
http://www.desmogblog.com/jon-stewart-1-politifact-0-fox-news-viewers-are-most-misinformed
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Hasselbeck – dude still got game. I’d take him in a heartbeat.
Bulger – Yes sign him up too. did a whole lot more than JC ever did.
Volek
Alex Smith – No thank you. Smith/Jajason…. ebony and Ivory
Kerry Collins
Tavaris Jackson
Troy Smith – Heck yeah. Dude in a few starts carried the Niners to a win over the Lambs, which is a whole lot more than we can say about JaChoke.
Chad Pennington
Drew Stanton
Pat Devlin
Nate Davis – Take him too. good prospect.
Rex Grossman
Jim Sorgi
Matt Moore
Trent Edwards
Matt Leinart – Why not. Al can put #12 on him and call him the next Stabler.
…McNabb – in a heart beat. I’m not even a McNabb fan but he’s certainly better than Our Talented QB who took a knee 2 yds before the first down marker.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
You’re a sad old man, Krappy. Why not try getting out of the house and stop sponging off your wife/mom for a change?
The more you stay locked up in doors the more bitter you become. Pool diapered old fool.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Fox viewers don’t believe in taxes or governments, but live in govt Welfare States.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
I’m not even a McNabb fan but he’s certainly better than Our Talented QB who took a knee 2 yds before the first down marker.
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That still galls me. That was just unbelievable.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
I would jump for joy if Al picks up Troy Smith to compete for the bk job. Dude got fire and arm. He carried his team in college and showed he can carry his team against the Lambs last year. Dude should of had over 400 yds passing if the damn Niners would stop drawing penalties. His only sin is being 6 ft tall.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dudes, after hanging at the pool all day, I get home to find two Mexican strippers from Spearmint Rhino making out to Mister Mister’s “Broken Wings” in my jacuzzi.
Gonna deep fry an onion, set up the video camera and fill out my mock NBA draft card while they explore each other’s “nether regions”, if you know what I mean.
Details to follow …
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
I’m not even a McNabb fan but he’s certainly better than Our Talented QB who took a knee 2 yds before the first down marker.
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That still galls me. That was just unbelievable.
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that is after 6 yrs and all the excuses for him in DC. We still saw the same shcyttt that DC fans complained about but his Raider supporters would swear to you he’s different.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dude should of had over 400 yds passing if the damn Niners would stop drawing penalties. His only sin is being 6 ft tall.
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If, if’s & buts were candy & nuts, the whole world would have a very merry x-mas. Including Al Davis.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Sure he’s different. He’s older, has an even slower release, and takes even longer to read a defense.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
“If, if’s & buts were candy & nuts, the whole world would have a very merry x-mas.”
- Realtor Michael Kelly
Wouldn’t you just love to have this fool handle your next major housing investment?
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:48 pm
We saw same schyt? JC didnt lose back to back games in Oakland did he? Poke holes? AIG you are losing bad. You losing so bad until u gotta use preseason games hahahahaha! You have no ground to stand on since JC went 7-5. Wins is what matters and your butt buddy grad didnt do that!
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:50 pm
You talk about worse game in SF…did JC not get team in first 3 gm win streak since 02 after that? You lose again
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Troy Smith played like crap his last few games before getting benched again.
He had two good starts to begin with, than his next 4 starts all had a lower QB rating than Bruce’s Miami game.
Both Boller and Troy Smith were with Hue in Baltimore, and both were available last offseason.
Hue chose Boller it seems.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Troy Smith played like crap his last few games before getting benched again.
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Ooopsss……bad editing.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Even garbage ass DHB had a 100 yard game with JC at qb in 2010. His only one ever
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Sure he’s different. He’s older, has an even slower release, and takes even longer to read a defense.
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Yeah, but that’s only bcz he had to learn a new system and has Boller looking over his shoulder.
Wait til his Uncle dies, then we’ll really be in trouble.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Lol AIG….now you running to what games JC won when so and so didnt play well? Hahahaha now youre scrambling…..I saw more wins than losses with JC….dispute that! u are only one making excuses to why jC has won games
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Hue chose Boller it seems.
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No Al chose Boller. It was a classic Al Davis move to pick up a former first rounder.
Troy Smith carried his team 1 time last season. In 6 games he had 7td/5int 1100 yds which is half of JC’s stats in 12 games. JC never carried us once last year and Smith at least showed the potential.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Kell, almost every Republican I know takes advantage of some government program, at some point in their life.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Bauce,
When you refuse to discuss JC’s DC days…is a sign that you dont have a comeback for it.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
JC didnt lose back to back games in Oakland did he?
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No he didn’t, but the team only lost back to back games twice, Hou-AZ and Pitt-Miami.
Let’s not make one 7-5, non-playoff season wrapped around a bunch of sub .500 years to be some type of epic turnaround.
Derek Anderson went 10-6 one year in Cleveland, and has sucked every other year since.
Campbell once went 8-8, than followed it up with a 4-12 campaign.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Based on your logic Bauce,
Alex Smith BEAT JC last year. You were there. That makes Alex Smith better no? cornered again.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
But AIG youre a good guy…..ninerwoman49 is a joke tho and a liar….he said he wont call Jacoby Ford JaJacoby becuase he is good but just 2 weeks ago he called Jason Terry “JaJason”…..is he not good? Ur a lil lying dork and you have been exposed. U give em time and they show true self all the time lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
And Troy Smith in SF never had the running game that rivaled Oakland last year that JC coat tailed off either.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Bauce,
Curious to something you said yesterday.
You said that you heard Louis Murphy, and a lot of the lockerroom was pissed with Bruce starting the Miami game last year.
The last person who should be pissed with Bruce starting is Murphy!!! He has 6 career TD’s, and Bruce threw 4 of them, and Soup and Jamarcus each has 1.
That makes zero sense to me.
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Well Alex Smith won that day and we stunk up the joint. It was a fluke win. JC beat Cassell twice…..twice! At home and on road…2nd game was an ass whooping…..NEXT!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
First time caller. Great to be hear. With all the positive things happening at Raider Headquarters, you’d think some of the doom and gloom so called Raider fan wanna be’s or fan’s that used to think they were fans, could lighten up and be happy, but now I see it is not possible.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
693.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Raiders either need a proven winner veteran QB, or a un-proven young talented QB.
We do not need a proven loser veteran QB like all 3 of our QB’s are.
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It would be interesting if they can get Palmer to come here to compete with JC.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I will lighten up and be happy once the Raiders win a Super Bowl in my lifetime. Than they go on epic 8 year tailspins and I won’t care much.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
B,
That’s your logic not mine. You base it purely on wins and losses. Well if Alex beats JC head to head then it should count right?
BTW, Murphy was the guy that complimented Bruce the year 2009 when he said Bruce was very punctual. Murphy also got killed when Campbell threw the ball over the middle with his classic dumpoff that got Murphy crushed in the preseason. I doubt Murphy has that much love for JC.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Statistically, Campbell just barely edges out Gradkowski. And, I don’t think Campbell has done anything yet that compares to Gradkowski’s comeback in Pittsburgh 2 years ago.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
VR….what about that doesnt make sense? Team conTinuity means nada? It was 6 games left in season and they were still alive! A guy who just had a 3 gm win streak gets benched after certainly a bad game against an nfl powerhouse on road……that made zero sense. guys tired of losing aand Grad was awful and put nail in coffin
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
09 is in 09 and our team had no shot at postseason vs pitt and no polamalu…..MR sit down and shut up
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
728.KoolKell Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Fox viewers don’t believe in evolution.
Fox viewers believe Saddan Husein had something to do with 9/11.
Fox viewers don’t believe in climate change.
Fox viewers believe Saddam Hussein had WMD.
Fox viewers believe Education is a tool of the Liberal elite. (that’s why they are all stupid)
http://www.desmogblog.com/jon-stewart-1-politifact-0-fox-news-viewers-are-most-misinformed
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Jon Stewart Credability = Bleecher Report Credability
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
JC also missed Murphy on a deep ball against SF that could have turned the game around. He also missed Murphy on a deep ball against SD in SD.
I’m loaded with hgh and got to run to the gym Bauce. You’re still a good guy in my book…barely. We will have to meet one time when I get back to the Bay Area so I can put you in a headlock and knock some sense into you. Later boys
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:06 pm
I don’t think Campbell makes much of a difference in the Miami game.
We were up at halftime, Bruce had a 85+ QB rating at the half, and than the D got torched the whole second-half.
Soup would have had to be at his absolute best to make a difference that day.
Maybe he would have, maybe he wouldn’t. No real way of knowing.
Jerry seemed to think it was a Hue Jackson call, or at the very least a co-signed Hue Jackson decision. You think Louis Murphy and the team disliked Hue Jackson for making that decision?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Gonna be pretty sad if JaJason’s NFL epitath reads:
Benched for Todd Collins, Bruce Gradkowski and Kyle Boller.
RIP JaJason.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Stats wise its not close MR u fkin liar….7 wins vs 1 win….more pts per game with jc…better yards per game….Chaz,Murphy,DHB and ford all scored TDs with JC. 3 GAME WIN STREAK and didnt lose consecutive games…..landslide
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Qb rating is lame and dont use that bs with me VR….thats a new ass stats used for agents leveraging for clients contracts……get a new angle that wont work
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
I forgot Chaz scored a TD in the season-ender.
Chaz and Murphy have all caught more TD’s from Bruce than Soup, and DHB’s whopping 2 TD’s are split between the two.
I think Chaz is good for at least 5 TD’s next year.
Chaz and Ford are your two starters, Murphy in the slot, and DHB when we need a decoy or a blocker.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
AIG YOU DOUBT IT? FOOL U LIVE IN HICK ASS MEMPHIS THESE DAYS SO YOU DONT KNOW A DAMN THING! MURPHY AND JC ARE THE CLOSEST OUT OF ALL TEAMMATES AND ARE ALWAYS HANGING OUT TOGETHER…..STAY IN THE BIKE LAANE ON THIS
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Qb rating is lame and dont use that bs with me VR….thats a new ass stats used for agents leveraging for clients contracts……get a new angle that wont work
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QB rating isn’t “new” it’s been around for 25 years.
Next your going to tell me that a pitcher’s WHIP doesn’t mean anything either, because they didn’t use it in the 60’s.
Get off the abacus and join the new stat-driven, fantasy age!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
How many seasons was Grad in Oakland compared to JC? exactly VR….u gonna have to do better than that lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Exactly 25 years is rather new since NFL been around hella damn long!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
How many starts or passes thrown between the two????
Soup has way more.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Brian the Genital getting worked up, all caps helps the poor dude get his point across I guess. Too funny.
Bro, put on a little Broken Wings by Mister Mister on, drink a marg and chillax!
Now the Lakes offered the Wolves Lamar for the #2 and it was rejected. I could’ve done Khloe a while back at a Prince concert at the Forum but I hooked up with one of the other sisters instead.
Can’t remember which one, I was wasted on Pringles.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
But AIG youre a good guy…..ninerwoman49 is a joke tho and a liar….he said he wont call Jacoby Ford JaJacoby becuase he is good but just 2 weeks ago he called Jason Terry “JaJason”…..is he not good? Ur a lil lying dork and you have been exposed. U give em time and they show true self all the time lol
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AIG is a good guy. Also smart. Realizes that JaJason is a turd.
Saucy, you keep trying to convince people that ‘JaJason’ is a racial insult.
You claim that since I don’t call Jacoby Ford, ‘JaJacoby’, that’s proof.
Uhmmm, just one little problem with your ‘proof’ – Jacoby is black.
So that means I should be calling him JaJacoby, according to your theory.
Make up your mind, you pathetic azzmunch.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
You talking about qb rating for first half of a close game that we lost by 16 at home! Game is 60 min….Next
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Exactly 25 years is rather new since NFL been around hella damn long!
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Back than, teams had 10 plays they ran.
Different game, different science of the game, different statistical analysis to match the evolution.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Dum kakike….why did you call Jason Terry JaJason Terry a few weeks ago then? Please lie again
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Again, I don’t think we should bring back Bruce or that he is comparable to Soup.
Too low of a ceiling in comparision and too injury-prone.
But spare me the parade for a 7-5, 12 game stretch.
That’s average, non-playoff level football. And his teammates were lights out in most of those wins.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
VR AGENTS used it as a ploy. Qb rating is bs…. and 2 yard dink and dunk pass holds as much worth as 50 yard bomb lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Lol teammates lights out? Scrambling VR…..AVERAGE? 7-5 says above average. 6-6 would be average buddy
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
JC should have started all 16 games. Hue messed up on that and it cost us the Az,Hou and Miami games
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:25 pm
and 2 yard dink and dunk pass holds as much worth as 50 yard bomb lol
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Not quite, but I do remember in 2009 when JLH threw an incomplete end-around pass, and his QB rating was around 45, which at the time was higher than Jamarcus’ for the year!!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Ninerwoman49 lol you said you wont call him JaJacoby cuz he is good….you said that not me! Now explain why jason Terry was JaJason Terry
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Saucy, it’s way too easy to press your simplistic buttons and send you off the deep end.
All I’ve got to do is say JaJason and your head explodes like JFK’s in Dealey Plaza.
Ja Ja Ja.
JaJason Terry, JaJason Kidd, JaJerry Mac, JaJacoby, JaJanikowski, JaMoron, JaJason Campbell.
Read that 5 times fast and I’ll bet you’ll be acting like a retarded JaJerry Lewis.
Ja Ja Ja.
JaJason sux and so do you.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Qb rating is lame…always has been. A guy can dink and dunk pass for 80 pct and throw for low amount of yards and 1 td…another guy can pass for 60 pcts with more and 2 tds….guess who has better rating?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
QB ratings are not useless, bot for a QB Wins-Loses mean more.
Bruce 1, Soup 7
Get over it and quit the race-baiting, unless you want me to start?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Hahahahaha see ninerwoman49 unravel? Just give em a lil time and they crumble. Your last post obviously shows how right I am lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
QB rating is all about completion % and TD’s – turnovers (they count sacks and fumbles lost, as well as rushing TD’s).
Yards have very little to do with one’s QB ratings.
That’s why Tebow last year against us, went like 9 of 18 for 140 yards, but 2 combined TD’s and no turnovers and posted a 100+ rating.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
So Kell….how did youu like my links? lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
LOL….a pre-emptive warning from KoolKell before he goes Dr. Lamont Hill on us.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Exactly VR….U SEE WHY qb rating stinks as a measuring stick now….thanks for proving my point
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Bruce Gradkowski is off the roster, time to move on, no?
What I want to know is, why Liberal Blue States have to carry Red welfare anti-govt/tax states?
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Lamont Hill hahahahahahahahahaha
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
@Conservative Wingers
What I want to know is, why Liberal Blue States have to carry Red welfare anti-govt/tax states?
Isn’t that socialism?
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell the grad lovers like ninerwoman49 wont move on. He said anyone with eyes can see Grads low 50 pct comp rate and 1 total win was a better qb lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Saucy, explain again why I only call JaJason Campbell ‘JaJason’ bcz he’s black, but I don’t call Jacoby Ford ‘JaJacoby’ bcz he’s uhmmmm, black.
C’mon GaGenius, I know you can do it.
Ja Ja Ja.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
And notice the Grad lovers had nada for me using week 5 in 93 vs jets when hoss stunk it up and Evans replaced him….but who started next ween on road vs Denver? Hoss did! and Raiders ended up making playoffs. Hue panicked! You dont make a haste move unless its best for team. az,hou and mia was best for team?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Krappy, why are you having a political meltdown? Did wifey forget your allowance this morning?
Remember, you old goat – this is a football and babe blog. Maybe this lack of listings at Kane $ Associates is really getting you, huh?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell the grad lovers like ninerwoman49 wont move on. He said anyone with eyes can see Grads low 50 pct comp rate and 1 total win was a better qb lol
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He’s just baiting you. I’d ignore him unless you want to call him a dumbass every now and then.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Dummy ninerwoman49 u said a few days ago you wont because he is a good player….stop lying and trying to double talk….im way too smart and youre not smart enough….try again
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
KoolKell quoting a 2004 link, lol.
Hell, Al Davis was damn near at the top of the NFL GM game in those days!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Ignore what Kell? Too fun and easy to rail that little chump
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:45 pm
KoolKell quoting a 2004 link, lol.
Hell, Al Davis was damn near at the top of the NFL GM game in those days!!!
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Really?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Many on this blog except me love Romo…what did he say all year about Jc and GRAD? what did he say at end of season? Grad lovers you falling even further behind lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Still waiting Saucy.
Can’t explain it, can ya ?
Hey, I’ve got an idea, ask KPDK to help you.
Ask the half breed to assist.
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
So kell how did u like my links about the two games where Raiders played vikes? Pretty cool huh?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Red-State Moochers: Federal Taxes Favor Those Who Complain the Most About Federal Taxes.
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/18/red-state-moochers-federal-taxes-favor-those-who-complain-the-most-about-federal-taxes/
Socialist Podunkers!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Ninerwoman49 i already answered you….come on ur kind may be soft lil wimps who cant fight but I know yall can read well….scroll up
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Hey KPDK half breed, help your ‘brotha’ out, will ya ?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
JaJason Terry<—-you called him that….does he suck?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RAIDERMAN99, do you live in a Red Welfare State?
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Jacoby Ford<—u said he doesnt suck therefore JaJacoby doesnt apply
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Pootbutt, don’t call anyone a Podunker!
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
The JaJason stuff is direct correlation with JaMarcus….ask any blk person on here and they all feel the same way
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
@Conservative Wingnuts
What I want to know is, why Liberal Blue States have to carry Red welfare anti-govt/tax states?
Isn’t that socialism?
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Notice i dont get mad at JaSoup or JaChoke names! Only the JaJason shhhyt does…..but hey we all look alike so whats the different
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Difference*
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Krappy don’t you have any friends to talk politics with? Pretty sad and pathetic to keep trying to stir up a conversation with football bloggers.
But that’s why we love you, old fool!
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Attention: The President is speaking!
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Fk sl@bama and his lame speeches
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
No, I don’t KPDK. Reno, Nevada.
I live in a blue welfare state.
Fortunately, I was able to retire at the age of 44.
Still have to send the Feds quarterly installments to support people who don’t have listings or wives to sponge off of.
Economy is really bad here.
JaJason was here during the bye week with DHB, donating some money to the poker pros at the Peppermill.
He’s not entirely useless.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Sl@bama is hella lame but he will win in 2012….reps got too many boring cats who wont inspire enough from young ppl
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
After yet another successful day of slapping around the Kelly Family (Krappy and his grandson Brian the Genital), it’s off to Islands for a free Big Wave Burger and some 69ing in the parking lot.
Hope you nerds don’t hurt yourself crying in my absence.
AVOID THE NOID
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Hmmmm cool I’ll be in reno in august…..i’d love to hear the JaJason schyt face to face….let’s see if you can even get Ja…out before I deck u
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
823.Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Sl@bama is hella lame but he will win in 2012….reps got too many boring cats who wont inspire enough from young ppl
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that and the fact he re-killed a popular guy who was probably dead 10 years prior…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
The JaJason stuff is direct correlation with JaMarcus….ask any blk person on here and they all feel the same way
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Does that mean I shouldn’t ask KPDK ?
Or do halfbreeds qualify to offer an opinion ?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Beecher the Butt Bandit you have yet to slap me ever. Im unslappable on this blog. U lack football takes or football knowledge. I was first guy on here to explicitly talk about my bzies now you wanna do a lame rip off of it. Ur the Pat Boone of this blog
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Ninerwoman49….ask one half of him…yes his half part can be asked….
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
No, I don’t KPDK. Reno, Nevada.
I live in a blue welfare state.
Fortunately, I was able to retire at the age of 44.
Still have to send the Feds quarterly installments to support people who don’t have listings or wives to sponge off of.
Economy is really bad here.
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Retired from what? Hey, I pay my taxes baby, I do business! Maybe you never had a wife who made any substantial money?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Lol Theculator…..whats happening?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
DBBz <——- Priceless comment…ROFLMAO…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Sorry it was DHBz….
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Saucy, I’d love to meet you.
Let’s get together.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
What it Do B???
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
DBBz? U mean DHBz
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Just peered in for some fun and laughs…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
DHBz…Yeah i had a typo…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Get together? Im not that way u goldrush girl…..you will say the JaJason crap then yell “Dont Hit me or I sue and I’ll invest it ‘visely’ guy”
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Thec yeah AIG,MR and Ninerwoman49 srill failing with their Grad love. Its hilarious
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:19 pm
KK, nope the wife never made any coin.
Just kidding about you sponging off your wife.
Don’t know if you do or not, and even if you do, more power to you.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Ninerwoman49 is singing Phil Collins to Gradkowski…..”one more win just give me one more win cuz Ive been waiting for 2 in a row foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr”
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Grads was stand up however, no way he is better than JC…. Anyone thinking otherwise is delirious….
JC took a lot of hiys and still manned up to go 7-5…
He didnt look sharp in all the games however the situation in Oakland and with coach Jackson has energized him andd although I am a rah rah type, I am fine with him leading these men into battle as he has shown he can lead men…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Fk paying taxes
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
I missed the political bantering i see….
Obamie <——-Manchurian candidate….
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Thec thats all we been saying but the Three Stooges dont get that
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
845.Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Fk paying taxes
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hahahahahha….it is voluntary….Just like giving some slepper of a pastor 10%….
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Thec…dont tell Kell that…he also said Moss scored on Woodson in the two games they played….notice he wont respond to me puttin up the links?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
If you are arguing with that MR guy you are wasting time B….That guy could easily be a politician….Lots of circle talk going no where…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Fk paying taxes
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Fk you too, leach.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Obamie<——- anoher in the long list of stooges that are selected into office…
Politics <—-Is WWF…A lot of Bad acting, but makes a ton of money…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Thec…not wasting time…ive basically beaten him into a passive guy now. He bows down to me now.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Saucy, until I met you on this blog, I thought CSUN was a fine university that turned out some intelligent graduates.
Actually, I still believe that, and am just hoping you’re an exception to the rule.
You’re really not too bright.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Thec…not wasting time…ive basically beaten him into a passive guy now. He bows down to me now. I straiught up dead him
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
The way i see it paying into the system is like an interest free loan as i get ALL of my thousands back…
Quite diffrent from the social club called the church where the so called pastor will get to keep the proceeds…
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Ninerwoman49 i got more than a few bloggers on here that will disagree with ya on that….try again lackey
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
As Eddie Murphy did in SNL as Jesse Jackass……” Dont let me down…nah nah….dont let me down…nah nah nah nah dont let me down Hymie towwwwwwwwn”
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Thec…not wasting time…ive basically beaten him into a passive guy now. He bows down to me now.
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Complete waste of time for a guy with no job, pays no taxes, never been nowhere, never done schit.
You’re delusional if you think this blog is your salvation.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
as Jesse Jackass <——-Another in the line of "so called" black leaders….lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
JaJason was here during the bye week with DHB, donating some money to the poker pros at the Peppermill.
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Never in my life would I ever feel more confident at the poker table than if DHB and Soup stepped up to play.
I can see DHB as a check-raise, all-in on pocket 10’s type.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Saucy, I’m sure there are a few bloggers here that don’t see what a fool you are.
Not just talking about disagreements about players or politics.
Talking about threatening to deck other posters, when you don’t have any idea who your messing with or what that person is capable of.
That’s a fool.
Of course, it’s just the internet and more than likely you’re just blowing smoke.
But it still doesn’t say much for your intelligence or common sense.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Or, to put it another way, states benefiting the least from federal spending are most likely to support federal spending, and states benefiting the most from federal spending are the least likely to support federal spending.
http://gumption.posterous.com/disproportionate-ratios-between-red-and-blue
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Had a good friend who just went up to Reno for a bachelor’s day thing a few weeks ago, and said it was sad and depressing how slow and empty the town feels.
I used to love going there when I was in college. You could get a border-line 18 year sister for about a note.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Never in my life would I ever feel more confident at the poker table than if DHB and Soup stepped up to play.
I can see DHB as a check-raise, all-in on pocket 10’s type.
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Long money eats up short money, lol.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:46 pm
I can see DHB as a check-raise, all-in on pocket 10’s type.
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LMAO. Honestly, I don’t know. Didn’t get a chance to see them. Heard they were playing small stakes. Might have even been limit.
JaJason is the deuce-seven offsuit of QBs.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Long money eats up short money, lol.
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Come on now, not playing a cash game with those guys, OBVIOUSLY, as I am sure nobody there was either.
Some type of limit or tournament style game.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
I would honestly say Bruce would be the pocket 6’s of QB’s (use to love those, flop a 6 and just kill people).
Low on probability, but damn if they don’t pull off some serious ish sometimes.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Damn, talking poker is bringing back some good memories.
Blogging hardcore, playing all-day on full tilt, and collecting unemployment, lol.
Great times!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
I blow purple smoke…and people at this blog have met me and I have iven open invites for those who got a problem with the Bauce. I dont care what anyone is capable of. Im not in fear of schit u b-tch
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Man, that soccer chick on the front of espn’s homepage looks like John Rocker!!!
When did we become East Germany? Our soccer chicks I always thought were kind of hot.
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Kell i have a job….it doesnt make six figures but I have a job….still waiting for your admittance to being blatantly wrong on Moss vs Woodson lol….i gave links but yet u are on mute….why?
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Not sure why KK though the one-handed grab that Moss made on Woodson in Minny, was in Oakland and was C-Wood’s first game.
I was going to chime in on that and help the old fart out, but I figured I would let it go and see if he hung himself.
Man, he sure was adamant about it for a few hours. Courage in your convictions KoolKell, sales 101!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Dont worry Ninerwoman49 i go to Reno in August like I did last year. I’ll gamble a tad get full off liq and hit that lil club inside of Silver Legacy . I’ll gladly take out a momentt to slap you then go back to being faded
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:58 pm
hahha kool kell that was so funny seeing brien bustin yo ass in terms of the charles woodson vs randy moss! hahha old fool.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
VR i rocked him with it and he has no get back. He loves asking for links and i gave him two! That one hand moss catch was off PI dammit! And minny didnt score on that drive. Woodson was on Carter that game for most part
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Rum Bullions!!!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Tazz…Kell knows football well no doubt but he is so damn stubborn it kills any great insight he can provide. He hates Al and is more like him than he knows
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Had a good friend who just went up to Reno for a bachelor’s day thing a few weeks ago, and said it was sad and depressing how slow and empty the town feels.
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Your friend wasn’t lying. Tough times here.
Couple of joints closed their doors. Others have changed ownership or gone bankrupt.
Have to rely on events like Hot August Nights to keep things going. This week it’s the Reno Rodeo. Lots of delicious looking cowgirls. But the ordinary, run of the mill, gambling and tourism has been hurt by the Indian Casinos in Cali and the brighter lights of Vegas.
Amount of foreclosures might be the highest in the nation.
Gotta be extra careful at night in certain areas downtown.
Guy got killed a few weeks ago trying to prevent one of his GF’s purses from being snatched.
UNR football player got shot in the abdomen last week. Pretty good WR too. Said to be career ending injury.
Still a great place to live if you’ve got a few bucks.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Not sure why KK though the one-handed grab that Moss made on Woodson in Minny, was in Oakland and was C-Wood’s first game.
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I said I’d seen Moss eat Woodson’s lunch. Pardon me all to hell.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Kell a preseason game their rookie year counts as what in W-L column? thank you! You lose
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
What lunch exactly did MOSS eat? Loser lunch? I saw Cwoods teams win…NEXT…did moss score on woodson? Next
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I DO NOT HATE AL DAVIS!!!!!!!
Gawddamned, if he was winning 57% of his games since 1983, instead of losing 57% of his games since 1983, I wouldn’t have a problem with him.
Can I make it any plainer?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
The big money of Hot August nights went out to Sparks though didn’t it?
I was there in 2004 for it, and in Reno it was all low-riders and such. The affluent, old-school GTO crowd took their party and cash up to Sparks it seemed.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
#Since 1989
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Al made it…he’s successful and Kell hates him cuz his life is so stressful
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Yeah VR IT DID….but oh well im going up there to still make it crack for myself and LAMBO doors sumthin
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Rum Bullions home of the dueling pianos.
Had a Corona ring girl contest the other week.
Winner got 2k and the priviledge of shaking her booty on an ESPN nationally televised fight card from the Event Center.
Bauce should have entered.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Al made it…he’s successful and Kell hates him cuz his life is so stressful
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That’s pretty stupid. What makes you suck Al Davis all day, He’s not winning? I go back farther than you.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Spent many a night in Rum Bullions.
Good to see at least one place still thriving in Reno.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Al made it…he’s successful and Kell hates him cuz his life is so stressful
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If he were successful, I wouldn’t be on him. He’s run the franchise into the ground.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
The Nugget in Sparks gets some Hot August Nights business, so does the Eldo, Nugget and Circus downtown.
But the bulk of the action is in the south at the Mill and the Atlantis.
Locals hate that event but put up with it bcz it brings in the money.
Tons of cops on the prowl here even when things are quiet. But they’re really out in force then. Especially since the riots about 10 years ago.
Amazing how much dough people put into those heeps.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Bauce!
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Ninerwoman49 at least be funny if u gonna try and rip on me…thats all i ask
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
My family goes back farther than you on Raider schyt u fool and dont b-tch like u do. Now shut da fk up
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Al legacy and great times cant be taken away ever. Kell u ever ran a successful biz? No you havent. You won SBs? No you havent. You a HOFer? No you are not. Are you a legend? No you are not
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Kell how bout those links? No comment?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Pres derelict has ran this country into the ground and not only do you not complain about it you are behind him 100%.
Hypocrite.
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KoolKell Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
If he were successful, I wouldn’t be on him. He’s run the franchise into the ground.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
My family goes back farther than you on Raider schyt u fool and dont b-tch like u do. Now shut da fk up
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Make me dumbass. lol.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
OK, Saucy, I’ll try harder next time.
Meantime, there’s a seafood buffet calling me.
Surf and Turf.
Later, gents.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Dumb & Dumber are here/Out
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:37 pm
don’t let the door hit you, hypocrite.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:38 pm
1. KoolKell Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
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Complete waste of time for a guy with no job, pays no taxes, never been nowhere, never done schit.
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You admitted above that you don’t work. And haven’t in years. That you live off your wife.
you have no job, you pay no taxes, you obviusly never lv the house.
You sure you want to throw stones?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Just don’t understand why ya’ll spend so much time on this Raider guy, and KoolKell, who obviously hate the Raiders.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:44 pm
909?
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 pm
909<—–leader of Inland Empire
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
DaveB its fun to see them scramble…i even proved he was wrong and he cant concede its funny so such a high class guy
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Pres derelict has ran this country into the ground and not only do you not complain about it you are behind him 100%.
Hypocrite.
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KoolKell Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
If he were successful, I wouldn’t be on him. He’s run the franchise into the ground
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Brown eye bishes about KK talking politics signed on as someone else then signs on as Brown stains to post this. Twisted ***k! LOL!
http://gumption.posterous.com/disproportionate-ratios-between-red-and-blue
Repub-licans are dangerous immoral lying morons no more than to themselves.
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Mista<—-quite smart dude
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Mista is dope!
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
word
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
I wonder what sn GoodOle uses on the regular.
lol
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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And you are on the record for hating socialism…too funny man. I hope you were just kiddin.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Many on this blog except me love Romo…what did he say all year about Jc and GRAD? what did he say at end of season? Grad lovers you falling even further behind lol
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hm….I saw Romo on comcast defending Grad and Eric Davis defending JC. Not sure what you saw there buddy.
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RAIDERMAN99
BTW, why are you not supporting Ron Paul over B$tchman?
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
DaveB its fun to see them scramble…i even proved he was wrong and he cant concede its funny so such a high class guy
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I guess the ‘high class guy’ comment is sarcasm, considering he admits he’s a stay at home housewife?
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
pft has video of Pryor throwing to Ocho, set up by their agents Drew R.
Wasn’t all that impressive, especially considering they left out the misses.
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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And you are on the record for hating socialism…too funny man. I hope you were just kiddin.
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That’s how dumb he is, and he has no idea. Yikes.
June 22nd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Confucious says that a dog will lick his balls because he can.
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 pm
*insert comment riddled with subtle insinuations intended to piss off a certain group*
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
The Raider Nation used to be the most diverse fan base in football. Now it just may become ground zero for America’s eminent race war.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Confucious says man who disturbs peace doesn’t get any.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Raiders might just go after Sidney Rice or a top LT, Cabo-Gaither-Light, instead of Miller or Bush.
Nnamdi is more important to Al than Zach & Michael put together.
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 pm
923.RaiderRetribution Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Raiders might just go after Sidney Rice or a top LT, Cabo-Gaither-Light, instead of Miller or Bush.
Nnamdi is more important to Al than Zach & Michael put together.
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Damn. I wish Miller and Bush were important to Al and Nnamdi too. Hope he keeps them all for the sake of continuity. But as it well known in the football world, we only know what Al does once he has done it.
June 23rd, 2011 at 1:37 am
755 JoeBlow,
Stick around. Some of us are excited about the upcoming season and want to hear from others who feel the same way. There are a lot of posts to ignore but quite a few well informed people also…plus Jerry Mac is the best resourse for Raider info.
June 23rd, 2011 at 5:56 am
All right Dub’s fans, today’s the day we start moving in the right direction.
With our first pick we need to either land a big guy for the frontcourt, or an athletic, defensive-minded wing. Backup PG (an acutal PG) in the 2nd round.
I think first choice would be Marcus Morris. If he is there, we take him. Next on the list is Kwahi Leonard, but he is getting rumored at #7 & #9 so he won’t be there probably.
Alec Burks is slipping in the drafts (got schooled supposedly in some pre-draft workouts) and is getting floated to go in the 20’s.
Not sold on Singleton or the WSU guy at all.
So hopefully it is Marcus Morris in the 1st, and either the Morris kid from Michigan, McIlleney from Illinois, Sheldon Mack in the 2nd to backup the point. Wouldn’t be mad at the Skeen kid from VCU either in the 2nd.
June 23rd, 2011 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up JFB? Today is the draft? Should be interesting…
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:01 am
Westboro Baptist Church (God hates faqs) is protesting Dunn’s funeral. Looks like Rockstar’s got a busy weekend.
Rockstar’s Westboro church protests all kinds of funerals, no matter what the sexual preference of the deceased, to make the point that “god” punished them because America allows gays to exist. They usually protest military funeral for this reason. Ask Rockstar. He’ll tell you all about it. He’s probably painting up his sign right now.
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LOL @ MR
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:36 am
Morning Hwnrdr!!! Yup the draft is today.
Funny, I watched a few clips of the ‘95 (???) draft and they had Rick Majerus on the announcing crew.
That guy was so blatantly biased towards white guys it was hilarious!!
“Rick what sleepers do you like in the draft?”
Rick: Bryce Drew and Michael Doleac
“Rick, who does Mike Bibby remind you of”
Rick: Mark Price or Jeff Hornacek
“Rick, what type of player might Michael Olowankandi be”
Rick: Maybe a Mark Eaton type player.
Every guy he liked or compared someone to, was white, lol!! I was kind of amazed that 1995 (I think it was) seemed like 1955.
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 am
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_1135_Def._Hog_Index.html
Interesting. Raiders rank 7th. If we stopped the run more consistantly we might be top 3.
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:44 am
Good morning fellas!
Looks like it’s about time for a new post!
Any news on any progress made at the Owner/player meetings yeterday? They should have the groundwork hammered out by now, c’mon you bastards! LoL
I was watching that 92 Redskins/Raiders highlights on the raiders home page the other day. We whooped up on a good redskins team the final game with Vince Evans putting on a show! C. Mcglockton was in the skins backfield all day! I remember that game like it was yesterday, very entertaining.
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:56 am
JFB, that’s too funny! Like in ‘03 I believe during a Lakers/Kings game (or was it ‘04?) Bill Walton kept talking up his son saying, “The Lakers should play Luke Walton. He is the best, most under rated player in the NBA right now”…LOL…Riiiight!
June 23rd, 2011 at 6:59 am
Interesting. Raiders rank 7th. If we stopped the run more consistantly we might be top 3.
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Not to mention possibly be in the playoffs. Those long runs hurt us and we gotta do a better job tackling this year.
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:10 am
The fron 4 gotta disrupt the play from the get go. Get a hand on that qb to let him know you’re in striking distance, get your hands up, in his face, anything to disrupt the qb’s concentration. With all these new rules protecting the qb kinda irritates me. It’s football man! I can understand below the knee hits and helmet to helmet, but sometimes a qb like Brady, Big Ben and Rivers deserve a good ole fashioned head slap while passing by. Lol
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:19 am
Iggy for Odom and Luke Walton? I’ll take that deal.
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:23 am
For Odom and Walton? Well…we’ll see…
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:30 am
I hope they end this lock out soon! Every day passes and I can see the season going to waste…especially for young teams like The Raiders…who could be using this time to gel more…
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 am
Hwnrdr i agree!
This team desperately needs preseason games for this young O line to gel or it’s going to be ugly. It also won’t look good for Hue in the W/L column if we jump right into a season. He won’t get a fair fighting chance to prove himself imo if this lock out continues.
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:50 am
Deja Vu, and it would suck if Hue gets bad rap from Al for something that really was out of hands!
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:54 am
Good morning Hwnrdr Dakota Deja Vu
I am about sick of this lock out as well.
That and the Tiger woods injury is making my summer suck.
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 am
Good Morning 666…Tiger hasn’t been the same since the scandal…Hope he pulls through because, well, he was the most exciting thing for golf since…geez, who knows…
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 am
666, I thought you were a sports fan….why would Tiger Woods’ injure affect you as a sports fan since Golf is not a sport? Tennis is a sport, but Golf isn’t. Golf is on par with Auto Racing and bowling….Golf is more of a sleep aid than a sport.
I’d rather watch women’s college B-ball than professional Golf.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:00 am
**injury**
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:04 am
Yeah Hue’s def got his work cut out for him with time working against him. He seems to be a good coach and motivator though.
All we have for sports at the moment is minor league baseball and womens roller derby here. I’ll pass on the minor league baseball, i just can’t get into it, although they have cheap beer.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:07 am
Dakota the only sports I watch other than the NFL is Tiger Woods golf.
Maybe to you its not a sport but I love watching Tiger!
Where does Women’s curling rank?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
942.Dakota Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 am
666, I thought you were a sports fan….why would Tiger Woods’ injure affect you as a sports fan since Golf is not a sport? Tennis is a sport, but Golf isn’t. Golf is on par with Auto Racing and bowling….Golf is more of a sleep aid than a sport.
I’d rather watch women’s college B-ball than professional Golf.
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Think you can drive a race car? Bet you would pee all over yourself at 100mph with 42 other cars around you. Try it at 200mph…
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Golf is mental and Tiger lost his edge. He cant get out of his own way and he is getting worse.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
I take that back I do watch women’s volley ball and cheer leading competitions.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Mr Kardashian and Fluke for Iggy?????
I guess that mean Artest is on the bench?
We need to get them to throw in Lou Williams!
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
Dakota,
Sport simply mean competition. How can you say those things are not sporting events?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 am
946.bcz24 Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
942.Dakota Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 7:58 am
666, I thought you were a sports fan….why would Tiger Woods’ injure affect you as a sports fan since Golf is not a sport? Tennis is a sport, but Golf isn’t. Golf is on par with Auto Racing and bowling….Golf is more of a sleep aid than a sport.
I’d rather watch women’s college B-ball than professional Golf.
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Think you can drive a race car? Bet you would pee all over yourself at 100mph with 42 other cars around you. Try it at 200mph…
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Lots of things are difficult….doesn’t make them a sport.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
So if the Jazz get’s Fredette, what would the Lakers have to give up to get Devin Harris?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:23 am
You can argue the degree of athletics involved, but you can hardly say they are not sports.
You can argue that baseball is just a hair above golf in the athletic cactegory. You stand around in the outfield and sit on you arsse in the dugout for 90% of the game. Why do you think they play 250 games a year?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 am
If John Daily can play a game, it is not a sport.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 am
John Daly played football in HS… must not be a sport.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 am
Is running track a sport?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 am
The only sport played on a golf course on a regular basis is cross country meets.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 am
That is the one thing I could never understand…ok, why is NASCAR considered a sport? I understand about the driving 200 miles around you, but wouldn’t that be considered a driving skill? I guess we would have to define sport! Maybe because you compete?
And yes, Track and Filed is a sport, but is it individual, or team?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 am
Golf is a little game that takes quite a lot of skill….like chess. Here, carry my bags I have to walk to the ball, and if my leg hurts I can drive a cart lol.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
Is swimming a sport?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
Tether ball is more of a sport than is Golf.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:41 am
Dakota,
How is golf different from baseball?
You STAND around swinging at a moving object. I guess the next time I break out my fly swatter ….
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
G’morning fellas.
Been awhile. Dakota, Bcz..you guys are killing me. lol. I’m sure you guys are all familiar with the late, great George Carlin’s take on sports.
There are only three: football, baseball and basketball. Everything else is a game or an activity.
Soccer’s not a sport because you can’t use your hands. If you can’t use your hands, it’s not a sport.
Swimming isn’t a sport. It’s away to keep from drowning.
Tennis is merely ping pong played while standing on the table.
And on and on….
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
What about 4 square or dodge ball?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
961.Dakota Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
Tether ball is more of a sport than is Golf.
LOL…i haven’t heard Tether ball in quite some time now…
J Hill…swimming by itself, I wouldn’t consider it a sport, however, is being competitive considered being a sport?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Swimming? If you fall off a crab boat it probably isn’t a sport…
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota,
Just because you went out and shot 150, that doesn’t mean it’s not a sport, lol.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
964.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
What about 4 square or dodge ball?
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Closer to a sport than is golf lol.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
That’s because you’ve never been able to hit a golf ball flush. We’re not talking your local minature golf here. Everyone is ignorant of golf until they somehow picked up a club and accidently make a flush contact. Then they are usually hooked. Golf is a sport as much as baseball is a sport.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
Good Morning Buckeye…I remember George Carlin’s skit very well! And his take on how to speed up baseball…you get one pitch…you miss, you’re out!
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
967.J Hill Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota,
Just because you went out and shot 150, that doesn’t mean it’s not a sport, lol.
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Yeah, and that was on a 9 hole course!
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
J Hill Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota,
Just because you went out and shot 150, that doesn’t mean it’s not a sport, lol.
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I think the closest thing he ever done in golf is miniature golf.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:45 am
It amazes me that a hot dog eating competition get’s air time on espn. Who the hell cares how many hot dogs you can jam down your throat in 5 minutes! lol I actually blew by that Oscar meyer weiner vehicle the other day on the highway. That big a$$ hot dog on wheels almost caused an accident.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:45 am
Dakota
Is shooting turkeys off your back porch a sport?
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 am
Golf is a game, like lawn darts, and croquette (sp?)….or pool or darts in a bar.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 am
bcz24 Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
Golf is mental and Tiger lost his edge. He cant get out of his own way and he is getting worse.
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Isnt it amazing how world class athletes lose their mental edge and it’s all downhill? Tyson was so scary to everyone until he lost and was never the same. Tiger used to intimidate his playing parnter and forced them into shooting way above pars.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:47 am
Hwnrdr,
Of course that’s what it means. You hear those old chaps on there horses, shotguns in hand, hound dogs on the loose, funny clothes talking about how they are having a jolly sporting time hunting ducks.
Be a good sport, they say. Simply means be a good competitor.
Play for the sport of it ….
Ehhhh, but Dakota knows this. He’s just mad he can’t hit a golf ball, or keep the ball outta the gutter.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:48 am
Hoping this dude falls to GW’s today. Jonas Valanucias (spelling?). He looked pretty good. Big man with great hands.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 am
974.KoolKell Says:
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:45 am
Dakota
Is shooting turkeys off your back porch a sport?
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Only if the Turkeys are trained attack Turkeys with razors stuck the their feet and you are in nothing but tighty-whities…..I don’t think shooting animals is very sporting….hunting is hunting, and I am fine with those that do it because it is a tradition and brings families closer, but not a sport.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 am
What about 4 square or dodge ball?
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LOL!
I’ve witnessed some ferocious handball matches. Seriously, I didn’t know it could get that serious.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:52 am
Golf is mental and Tiger lost his edge. He cant get out of his own way and he is getting worse.
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Isnt it amazing how world class athletes lose their mental edge and it’s all downhill?
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Has he lost his edge, or is he just hurt?
The last major he won was on one leg. I want to see the guy get healthy and then come back. Where talking about his front leg. AMAZING that he won that major on that bad wheel.
June 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 am
until they somehow picked up a club and accidently make a flush contact.
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LOL!
That is hilarious.
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June 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Semantics.
Some sports are sedentary, some are strenuous, some are inbetween.
Depends on your definition of sport.
If you are challenging someone in something, in many eyes its a competiton, hence sport.
To others it’s only a sport if you sweat like a dog, and risk a pulled hammie
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