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Top 100: Where will Nnamdi finish?

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, June 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 am in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders’ third and presumably final player named to the NFL Network’s Top 100 list will be cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

Asomugha’s name hasn’t come up yet even though the countdown continues at No. 20 through No. 11 Sunday on the NFL Network.

It speaks to Asomugha’s reputation among his peers, given that voting is done by fellow players. The only Raiders to be voted among the top 100 players in the NFL were running back Darren McFadden (No. 98) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (No. 66).

Only two cornerbacks have been listed so far _ Philadelphia’s Asante Samuel (No. 54) and Denver’s Champ Bailey (No. 48).

Asomugha and probably two others remain _ the Jets’ Darrelle Revis and the Packers’ Charles Woodson.

Players were asked to list the top 20 players in the NFL then votes were tabulated to reach a top 100. The current list is in the lower right hand corner of the link provided here.

The series has been a good way to kill time during the work stoppage, a way to spark the kind of bar stool arguments and debates which otherwise would deteriorate into discussions about rookie wage scales, percentage of the gross and 18-game regular seasons.

For instance:

– Given the format, the list doesn’t remotely resemble what NFL teams would think about a prospective player. Take for instance, McFadden’s ranking at No. 98. Ranked ahead of McFadden are the 49ers’ Frank Gore (No. 94), Baltimore’s Ray Rice (56), Atlanta’s Michael Turner (42), the Rams’ Steven Jackson (38), the Chiefs’ Jamal Charles (33), Jacksonville’s Maurice Jones-Drew (30) and Houston’s Arian Foster (25). Still to come are the Titans’ Chris Johnson and Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson.

Put all those names in a box and allow teams to draft and McFadden, based on his third season, would leapfrog at least three players. At the NFL scouting combine the year McFadden came out, he’d be an instant starter on the 49ers _ ahead of Gore, who had already established himself as a Pro Bowl runner.

I thought about that for two years while McFadden battled injuries and looked nothing like the player he’d been at Arkansas. Last season, that evaluation was spot-on.

– Considering Seymour’s track record, his inclusion at No 66 seems a bit low. That’s well behind former teammate Vince Wilfork (No. 35), second-year player Ndamukong Suh (No. 51), and Miami end/linebacker Cameron Wake (No. 63) and Chiefs rush end Tamba Hali (No. 64).

Seymour is considerably older than all those players and all would probably be preferred in an open draft situation. But NFL players probably aren’t thinking that deeply. They’re simply putting down the first names that come to mind. And I’m surprised Seymour’s mind didn’t come to mind on more ballots than players with less of a pedigree.

– Donovan McNabb’s inclusion at No. 100 means some players listed him as among the top 20 players in the NFL, when I’m not sure he’s a slam dunk for being among the top 20 quarterbacks. (OK, top 15, maybe).

– Devin Hester at No. 32? Still more of a gimmick guy as a wide receiver, although the occasional returns are nice. Way too high. At this point, I’d rather have Jacoby Ford.

– Eight players deemed by their peers to be among the top 100 players in the NFL were selected in the 2007 NFL draft after JaMarcus Russell went No. 1 overall _ Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson (No. 27, second overall pick), Browns tackle Joe Thomas (No. 43, third overall pick), Peterson (TBA, seventh overall pick), 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis (23rd, 11th overall pick); Revis (TBA, 14th overall pick), Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe (No. 45, 23rd overall pick), Carolina linebacker Jon Beason (No. 95, 25th overall pick) and Steelers linebacker LeMarr Woodley (No. 82, 46th overall pick).

– As for Asomugha vs. Revis vs. Woodson here’s how Atlanta wide receiver Roddy White broke it down for the NFL Network:

1) Revis: Revis is the number one cover guy in the league right now. He’s strong at the point of attack . . . He always gets his hands on you. He disrupts the timing of routes. That’s the biggest thing about the passing game, everything has to be on time — precision. And he does such a good job of (disrupting timing).

2) Asomugha: Nnamdi’s the same way. He disrupts timing. The only thing about Nnamdi, he’s not as good of a ball-catcher as Revis. That’s why I put Revis over him. He’s not a ball-hawking guy, but you can’t complete any balls over Nnamdi.

4) Woodson: He’s like a wild card not really a corner. He does it all. He’s the only guy that’s just a playmaker at the corner position . . . he can’t cover like he used to, but he does a good enough job.”

(He ranks Bailey above Woodson)

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631 Responses to “Top 100: Where will Nnamdi finish?”

  1. hwnrdr Says:

    Hmmm….Interesting…Aso being that highly rated? Possibly?

  2. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    Man, Are we really this bored?………….YES! And I’d still take Aso over Revis every time! Settle the labor dispute and start playing football.

  3. Dakota Says:

    I’d rather watch NFL lockout news than a round of a PGA event. Women’s softball is even more entertaining to watch than Golf.

    I guess I’d rather watch golf than the Oprah network….

  4. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey, there’s always Women’s Beach Volleyball!

  5. J Hill Says:

    I didn’t watch more than 10 total minutes of the US Open this weekend.

    Watching golf and watching Tiger are 2 different things.

  6. aig-raiders Says:

    I think Roddy is dead on and I am sure he knows more than any of us on here.

    @Hill, I think Tiger has lost some. He was in a zone and I think the issues knocked it out for him. You’re an avid golfer and you know that things go schyyyttt the moment you start to question whether you can stop the ball from slicing or hooking or pushing the putt. Adding the thought of someone else banging your wife (ex now) is prob not helping either these last 2 yrs.

    TW is still a young man and is always physically in shape. I think he will recover and can compete well into his 50’s, There’s no doubt he will break Jack’s record.

  7. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I love watching Sunday golf, whoever is in the competition.

    But I don’t care if it is Tiger, your not getting me to tune on Thursday-Saturday.

  8. aig-raiders Says:

    JFB,

    Jonas Valunucias. Thoughts?

  9. Just Fire Baby Says:

    There’s no doubt he will break Jack’s record.

    **************************

    I don’t think so, or at least I don’t think it is a no doubter.

    These young guys today might be almost as good as Tiger was when he was young, and he ain’t young anymore.

    I think he will always be a threat at the Masters, and the occasional British he might get hot.

    But no way does he win anymore US Open’s. That ship has sailed.

  10. Dakota Says:

    I don’t know which one I’d rather watch….a NASCAR event or a PGA event. NASCAR is nothing but a constant running commercial….Golf isn’t quite as obvious about it.

    At least you might see a cool crash in NASCAR….still think it would be better if the track was in a figure 8 formation though.

  11. J Hill Says:

    the moment you start to question whether you can stop the ball from slicing or hooking or pushing the putt.

    ——————————————————

    I wouldn’t know.

  12. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jonas Valunucias. Thoughts?

    ************************

    Uhhhh……….Never seen him play so who knows.

    If we are going to get a big, we need a guy who adds a physical presence.

    Going to paint with a broad-brush here, but big guys named Jonas would rather shoot jump shots than hit the defensive glass typically.

  13. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    If or when we lose Nnamdi to another team and we also lose Huff (not a big fan) we are going to get burned in the passing attack.

    All new DBs through the draft and all of the other corners including Routt in my book are suspect to get burned.

    Are pass rush better be on full blast every game.

    D@mn I hate losing Nnamdi with ROd Woodson coming on as coach. They could be deadly in the secondary. I would find a way to sign Nam. No one out there in free agency in the next three years gives our team an edge at any position like Nam does. We will regret losing this guy!

  14. Deja vu Says:

    That’s crazy, i have to agree with Jerry on Hester at 32! Incredible return guy, but at wr? I don’t think he should be ranked anywhere near Calvin Johnson.

  15. J Hill Says:

    But no way does he win anymore US Open’s.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    How can you say that?

    The guy has been INJURED for the last 2 years.

    I think the only thing we can say is over are the thoughts of Tigerslams. True, the field is better, but 160 yds and in has nothing to do with age or how far you hit the pelota.

  16. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hester did have 7 total TD’s, and averaged an amazing 35.6 yards per kickoff return.

    #32 seems a bit high, but he has an impact on damn near every game he plays in.

  17. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tiger will have a Mike Tyson like career.

    Amazing, record-breaking start, than once he got punched in the mouth a few times, he withered away.

    Remember, he has never won a major he wasn’t leading going into Sunday.

    He can’t even string together 2 good days of golf, how is he going to start to string together 4?? And how is another knee surgery going to help anything?

  18. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I would rather watch Ping Pong or badminton than Basketball!

  19. HairyBush Says:

    Badminton rules

  20. KoolKell Says:

    I think Tiger is prettu much done, too. Karma.

  21. Dakota Says:

    18.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
    I would rather watch Ping Pong or badminton than Basketball!
    +++++++++++++++

    Really into the shuttlec0ck huh?

  22. aig-raiders Says:

    the young guys dont have the mental toughness of TW and Jack. I’ve always believed all their physical talents in the long game are not really different. What sets Jack and Tiger apart from the pack is the ability to putt and ability to grind.

    Jack and TW won immediately in their first year on the tour and won consistently. They talk about Ricky Fowler but dude has yet to win 1 tournament. Dustin Johnson can’t make top 10’s consistently. Rory finally improved on his putter this year under Stockton but he has been on tour since 2007 and got exactly 4 professional wins so far. Rory got hot last week and the course was so damn easy for a US open. Everyone was shooting red all over the places.

  23. Deja vu Says:

    That is pretty damn impressive tho for an average..35.6! Lol Thanks for the stat

  24. KoolKell Says:

    Like Mike Tyson says, your plans go out the window when you get hit in the mouth.

    Tiger’s been hit in the mouth.

  25. J Hill Says:

    When did Tiger get punched in the mouth?

    You’re calling knee and achilles injuries punches in the mouth?

  26. Just Fire Baby Says:

    That is pretty damn impressive tho for an average..35.6!

    ********************************

    Wasn’t on full-time duty on KO’s, but yeah that is crazy.

    And 3 punt returns for a TD, a 17.9 average on punts, and 0 fumbles lost all season.

  27. Dakota Says:

    Losing a player of Nnamdi’s caliber for absolutely nothing in return is going to haunt Al Davis for the rest of his life. Good franchises do not let players of his skill level go in their primes without getting something in return.

  28. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tiger used to only have to compete with the course and his putter.

    Now he has all that, plus Rory, Johnson, Oestheuzen (spell???) and the rest of the field.

    I wouldn’t be suprised if he won 1 more Masters and 1 more British, and that was it.

  29. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am

    When did Tiger get punched in the mouth?

    You’re calling knee and achilles injuries punches in the mouth?
    —————-
    YE Yang PGA Championship. Dude refused to go away and took him. YE is fearless. Non-golfers think it was the accident that started it all but it was at the PGA Championship, imo. TW’s trademark is get the lead and let people overplay themselves on Sunday to catch up. Ernie Els and a bunch of older vets used to fall in this trap.

  30. J Hill Says:

    I don’t think there is a team out there that will give Nnamdi more than Revis is making. And Al will at least match the Revis deal.

    Look, Nnamdi has a chance to go to the Jets last year, but he told Al not to trade him there. This was just last offseason coming off a 5 win campaign. And he wants to leave now, why?

  31. KoolKell Says:

    25.J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 am
    When did Tiger get punched in the mouth?

    You’re calling knee and achilles injuries punches in the mouth?
    ——————————————–
    His wife went upside his head, his sponsors punched him in the mouth. His collegues kicked him in the stomach, and the media embarrassed the schit out of him. Get real.

  32. Dakota Says:

    Tiger can always take up another hobby, like chess, checkers or collecting stamps….I think their might be more physicality to collecting stamps than there is playing golf….I’ll have to ask sports science to look into that….

  33. Dakota Says:

    ***there***

  34. J Hill Says:

    The last tourney Tiger played in was the Masters, and he finished 4th, lol.

    This despite him playing on a bad wheel, and “fighting his swing”. The guy hit 73% GIRs and shot 10 under on the par 5s. Tiger lost because he played the par 3s at E.

    You guys can take the tabloid angles if you want to, but I say give the guy a healthy leg and he’ll EASILY win 4 more majors before he’s done.

  35. Just Fire Baby Says:

    but I say give the guy a healthy leg

    ***********************

    The leg is only going to get worse.

    Next will be the hip as he overcorrects.

  36. J Hill Says:

    Dakota,

    I see you still haven’t come up with the details of how physically taxing baseball is.

    How much energy to you do you use standing around in right field for 25 outs? Those 2 fly balls that were hit right to you get you winded? Or was it the job back to the dugout to sit on you arsse for the bottom half of the inning?

  37. J Hill Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnFbCCgTo4&feature=related

    —————————————————-

    If you guys haven’t seen Robin Williams take on golf, I suggest you not drink anything while watching this. It will be all over your screen, lol.

  38. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A corner outfielder is backing up plays all the time.

    RF is jogging down the first base line, LF always going to third.

    You don’t think Matt Kemp is a world-class athlete?

  39. MistaBrown Says:

    Actually KK the clown, tiger embarrassed himself the media just reported what he did. He fired himself from his sponsors. His wife went upside his head and good for her, take his kids and his money to the UK, good for tiger!

    Self responsibility is a foreign language to you libtards.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 am

    His wife went upside his head, his sponsors punched him in the mouth. His collegues kicked him in the stomach, and the media embarrassed the schit out of him. Get real.

  40. aig-raiders Says:

    TW is doing a version of the stack and tilt now to lower the stress on that knee. Seriously he doesnt need to hit the ball that far. Rory won last week because he put the ball in the fairway. If he can putt and the shoulders hold up, he’ll be fine. Takes a little time to get used to new swings.

  41. J Hill Says:

    RF is jogging down the first base line

    ——————————————————

    So if you play a game that requires at least occasional jogging, it is a sport?

  42. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Actually KK the clown, tiger embarrassed himself the media just reported what he did. He fired himself from his sponsors. His wife went upside his head and good for her, take his kids and his money to the UK, good for tiger!

    Self responsibility is a foreign language to you libtards.
    ——————————————
    BrownStains, what about you, collecting food stamps?

  43. aig-raiders Says:

    take his kids and his money to the UK,
    ————–
    Seriously? UK? You are so well informed. Dang.

  44. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clowm, are you going to be an illiterate bonehead your entire life?

  45. bcz24 Says:

    7.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:11 am
    I love watching Sunday golf, whoever is in the competition.

    But I don’t care if it is Tiger, your not getting me to tune on Thursday-Saturday.
    *************************
    I was just going to say the same thing. Sunday golf is a whole different animal.

  46. Just Fire Baby Says:

    So if you play a game that requires at least occasional jogging, it is a sport?

    ******************************

    Occasionaly jogging with 90 mph rocks thrown either at you or inches from you, 3-4 times a game, than yes.

  47. Silverandblack666 Says:

    This whole idea that Tiger has Karma coming to him is BS.

    What did he do to you or the game of golf….NOTHING!

    what happened was between him and his wife he is not a publicly elected congressman or Senator.

    The fact that it is humiliating because he slept with 18 hot models is laughable. I reward him with a medal not shame him like losers KoolKell who prefer anal penetration as to making it with a super model.

    Tiger is a STUD he can do whatever he wants to do regardless of what some lackey rump ranger blogger thinks.

    Tiger will come back and win 8 more majors.

    Print that!

  48. MistaBrown Says:

    KK, you earned less than 10 dollars in 3 years, your sponging off your wife and he puts up with that why???? I have no idea why he does! And your lobbing the food stamp blast at me?

    lmfao

  49. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Ahhhhhh the good old days………http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fy8t3HYZp4

  50. KoolKell Says:

    850.Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    —————————————————-
    BrownStains, is this the Libetard who lacks self responsibility?

  51. MistaBrown Says:

    Tiger might as well get a 1 bedroom apartment with A Weiner. They are both morons who disgraced themselves and their families. I hope their wives take them to the cleaners, and they will.

    And golf sucks btw…

    The end

  52. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Karma thing was that Tiger portrayed himself as a wholesome, pretty-right wing family guy to everybody.

    Nobody cared that John Daly cheated on his wife, you expected it.

    But Tiger tried to sell you this wholesome image so you would buy a Buick, than it turned out he was more John Daly than Phil Mickelson, and than all the 60 year old, white Buick owners felt cheated.

  53. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown,
    Half of Obumbas cabinet appointments are tax cheats including Tim Geitner so if they dont pay why should we ?

    Illiterate dolt.

  54. J Hill Says:

    with 90 mph rocks thrown either at you or inches from you, 3-4 times a game, than yes.

    ——————————————————-

    At you?

    Stop crowding the plate!

    You’re STANDING STILL swinging a stick, lol!

    Baseball and golf are about the same when it comes to being physically demanding.

  55. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sticky question, if Tiger married a black chick from Detroit instead of a white girl from Sweeden, would people not be AS upset??

    I think so. And don’t think that the fact that of the 20 or so #2’s, there wasn’t one sister in the group, didn’t go un-noticed.

  56. aig-raiders Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lok2ZYo9xUg
    Marcus Allen SB run.

    My very first exposure to the Raiders. Talk about having expectations and going downhill from there.

  57. J Hill Says:

    The fact that it is humiliating because he slept with 18 hot models is laughable. I reward him with a medal not shame him like losers KoolKell who prefer anal penetration as to making it with a super model.

    Tiger is a STUD he can do whatever he wants to do regardless of what some lackey rump ranger blogger thinks.

    —————————————————–

    LMFAO!

  58. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Baseball and golf are about the same when it comes to being physically demanding.

    *************************

    Tell that to Buster Posey, Tony Conigliaro and Ray Chapman!!!

  59. J Hill Says:

    And don’t think that the fact that of the 20 or so #2’s, there wasn’t one sister in the group, didn’t go un-noticed.

    ——————————————————

    By the sista’s.

    The bruh’s didn’t care. At least I didn’t. I was more amazed that a lot of them were 6’s or less. That one cocktail waitress from NY was a nice one though.

  60. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, I just find it ironic, that as a food stamp collector, you are anti-tax, anti-govt, no?

  61. J Hill Says:

    Tell that to Buster Posey, Tony Conigliaro and Ray Chapman!!!

    ——————————————————

    Who????

  62. MistaBrown Says:

    Golf is as much of a sport as billiards or badminton.

    Jerry should just shut down this blog until the lockout is over if golf & tiger is a discussion. Make KK and MR go out in the world maybe even snag some sunshine & fresh air.

    Doit Jerry, shut this b!tch down!

  63. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Tiger portrayed himself as a wholesome, pretty-right wing family guy to everybody.”

    I disagree he is a Buddhist (not traditional right wing) and kept his family life very secluded it was his sponsors who portrayed him as wholesome he never once came out and publicly discussed his personal life until this mess.

  64. hwnrdr Says:

    I think that the media and society as a whole should learn to just adopt that who fn cares attitude…seriously. If this happened in the 50’s then I can see….but in today’s world…it’s like wow, he did that? next…unfortunately, one cannot become world famous and get away with that…but tell me…how did JFK get away with what he did…because he was Pres?

  65. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The only Raiders to be voted among the top 100 players in the NFL were running back Darren McFadden (No. 98) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (No. 66).

    ***

    so the Raider have three Top 100 players;

    DMAC, Big Sey & #21

    So we have $25 million wrapped up in Campbell, Wimbley & Routt this year, because ????

    no love for Zach Miller in the Top 100?

    Jhill must have sent some blocking film over to the NFL Network via FedEx express

  66. hwnrdr Says:

    63.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 am
    “Tiger portrayed himself as a wholesome, pretty-right wing family guy to everybody.”

    I disagree he is a Buddhist (not traditional right wing) and kept his family life very secluded it was his sponsors who portrayed him as wholesome he never once came out and publicly discussed his personal life until this mess.

    YUP!

  67. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Buster Posey = just shredded his ankle massively

    Tony Conigliaro = great Italian ball-player struck in the eye, nearly lost his eye and was never the same

    Ray Chapman = died after getting beaned in the head!!

  68. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown, you are proud of Obumba putting a record 40 million americans on food stamps? All while you are sponging off your wife and blogging 18hrs a day, he should throw you out on your fat lumpy a$$.

  69. hwnrdr Says:

    61.J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:18 am
    Tell that to Buster Posey, Tony Conigliaro and Ray Chapman!!!

    ——————————————————

    Who????

    I don’t know who the other 2 are but Buster Posey is the catcher for SF Giants…it was a too bad thing for him, but it is part of the game…and then that stupid manager went on to say what he did…yeah, real classy orgs they have there in the City…

  70. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Jerry should just shut down this blog until Brownstains/KK get a job and start paying taxes!

  71. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tiger catered to the up-scale, affluent, mostly white folks who bought expensive golf apparel and Buicks.

    He was the Sammy Davis of golf!!!

  72. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    I’ve recently witnessed a guy leaking from the head on the 12th green due to an errant tee shot off #8.

    Young Bill shredded his knee after stepping in a gopher well disguised by the high grass due to maintenance crew cutbacks.

    Sports are dangerous, I agree.

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    any NBA trades yet?

  74. J Hill Says:

    Tiger catered to the up-scale, affluent, mostly white folks who bought expensive golf apparel and Buicks.

    ——————————————————

    You mean the avg golf fan?

    Well he did play golf, lol.

  75. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Tiger catered to the up-scale, affluent, mostly white folks who bought expensive golf apparel and Buicks.
    —————————————–
    Golfers

  76. hwnrdr Says:

    Funny is that we made the paparazzi what it is…it is we, the people that wants to know what goes on in people’s personal lives…wasn’t there a big news story on Lindsey Lohan possibly breaking parole for having a party this morning? Do we really care? Unfortunately, many do…sad but true!

  77. Silverandblack666 Says:

    ” Obumba putting a record 40 million americans on food stamps”

    He did? Just exactly what “food stamp” laws did he change or pass whole in office to allow an increase in public assistance.

    Show some links or proof before spouting off ignorantly about things you are feed by the media Sheep boy?

    here is a does of reality for you:

    In 2007 we were in the worst recession since the great depression brought on by the right wing agenda to allow corporate greed. This is why there are record number of people unemployed and on public assistance.

    Maybe you should try reading a book or taking a class on economics.

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What could Philly give the T’Wolves besides Andre Iguodala in a trade for the #2 ???

  79. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, a fella in your position, I would think would be for all the socialism he could get, yes?

  80. RaiderRockstar Says:

    news story on Lindsey Lohan possibly breaking parole for having a party this morning

    ***

    oh snap!

  81. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Young Bill

    **************************

    Who????

    Your comparing dudes who need a some gauze and a bandage to guys losing eyes and dying!!!

    No comparision!!

  82. MistaBrown Says:

    666Glen, if I start answering question this ignorant I will drift into your world if bliss, no thanks.

    ______

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am

    He did? Just exactly what “food stamp” laws did he change or pass whole in office to allow an increase in public assistance.

  83. Silverandblack666 Says:

    The only laws or regulations that were changed were those allowing unemployment extensions for people out of work.

    You wouldn’t know the difference between unemployment and food stamps because you have never had a job.

    You see we working folks PAY into unemployment in case we lose our jobs.

    Food stamps are a hand out you don’t have to show a working history to get them like you do with unemployment.

    There is your first lesson in public assistance.

  84. lefty12 Says:

    J Hill-thanks for the comment yesterday.
    I know a lot of people who used to say golf wasn’t a sport.Then they tried to play it and their thinking totally changed.The only people who claim golf isn’t a sport are those that don’t or can’t play the game.

  85. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Brownstains/KK

    I called you out and you failed to respond which means you have no idea what you are talking about.

  86. J Hill Says:

    Your comparing dudes who need a some gauze and a bandage to guys losing eyes and dying!!!

    ——————————————————-

    Ok, I get it.

    There has to be some sort of potential loss of life or limb to be considered a sport?

    Well that should answer you neckcar racing question Hwnrdr.

  87. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown,
    I think a feller 60yrs old on a blog 18hrs a day pretending to know other peoples personal financial status is a form of mental illness, no?

    As far as your personal business, you chose to put it all out here for us to poke fun at you. As far as me you know don’t know a damn thing, as usual.

    Pea brained mope…

  88. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well I’m off to go expense a wonderul lunch at Sweet Tomatoes.

    Doesn’t get any more manly than that, lol.

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Heat center Zydrunas Ilgauskas is exercising his $1.4 million option with Miami for next season.

    ***

    booyah!

  90. Silverandblack666 Says:

    JFB the one on Bernal?

  91. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    All I know is that you’re stupid, uneducated and uninformed. Those people are usually unemployed and on food stamps.

  92. bzdup Says:

    why do we listen to Roddy white? because he plays football? it means NOTHING. Bottom line: ASO is #1. The only reason he isn’t a “playmaker” or a “ball hawk” is baecause NO BODY THROWS HIS WAY EVER BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST CORNER IN THE LEAGUE.

    Revis on the other hand gets smoked once in a while, like Moss, with the one hander over him.

    This debate reminds me of the late 90’s early 2000’s with Bailey vs. Woodson. Woodson was SUPERIOR hands down. I can’t remember a single game where he gave up more than 2 touchdowns (except 1 game to TO). Shoot every time I watched Bailey he gave up multiple TDs, this is literally off the top of my head:

    1. 3 TDs to Porter in the Snowbowl
    2. 3 Tds to Ocho Cinco that same year
    3. 2 TDs to Eddie Kennison (yes, Eddie Kennison) that same year

    yet everyone kept giving him the hype.

    It’s the same with Revis. The guy is NOT the #1 DB, but dumbasssses like Roddy White think 1 spectacular int, makes up for giving up a ton of catches.

    Let’s not forget, ASO plays man on man, NO SCHEME, and until last year NO PASS RUSH. I’m just sayin, not only is ASO #1, it’s actually not even close.

  93. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “BrownStains

    All I know is that you’re stupid, uneducated and uninformed. Those people are usually unemployed and on food stamps.”

    Post of the day!

  94. MistaBrown Says:

    Yes numnuts he is driving from New Mexico to San Jose just to bang out some sweet tomatoes.

    LMAO
    ______

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 am

    JFB the one on Bernal?

  95. hwnrdr Says:

    Bzdup…I agree with this…I respected Champ for who he is, but seen him get burnt all the time…I have seen ASO get burned also, but not all the time…

  96. MistaBrown Says:

    Exaactly, Roddy has prob faced #21 1 time in his career and our D-Cor probably didn’t line him up on White.

    #21 gets the luxury of covering who is on his side so the OC just moves his #1 receiver opposite #21.
    ______

    Bzdup Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:38 am

    why do we listen to Roddy white?

  97. hwnrdr Says:

    That is what I didn’t understand though…if you are hyped as being the most avoided corner…why not challenge the teams best receiver? That was always easy planning by not only the OC, but the qb audible as well…well, unless it was JaMarcus…

  98. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    My take: Swap Nnamdi and Revis. If Revis holds opposing WRs to less than 20 catches during 3 seasons on 90% man to man, and the worst run D in football, and if Revis has more ints, then I’ll concede Revis is better than Nnamdi. Nnamdi #1 CB in football.

  99. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Braownstains/kk

    I am not such a loser that I keep tabs on where bloggers live!

    Get out of your mothers basement one day and do something read a book or take a class, or even got for a walk and experience nature.

    But sitting here all day keeping tabs on bloggers is psychotic.

  100. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Top 100 players for 2010? The way I look at it is if all players were available for a draft every year, that is you dont get to keep them. then this year it would go something like this:
    1. P.Manning
    2. Brady
    3. Brees
    4. Rodgers
    5. P Rivers

    QB is by far the most important position in today’s NFL.

  101. hwnrdr Says:

    100…YAY…Just kidding

  102. MistaBrown Says:

    Why would NY trade a baller for a semi baller?
    _____

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 am

    My take: Swap Nnamdi and Revis.

  103. aig-raiders Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Tiger catered to the up-scale, affluent, mostly white folks who bought expensive golf apparel and Buicks.

    He was the Sammy Davis of golf!!!
    ——————-
    Quick fact on TW. TW is 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 Thai, 1/8 Dutch, 1/8 American Indian, and 1/4 Black. He has always considered himself more than just Black. TW is as White as they come. Holly Sampson said “TW was the whitest black guy” she has ever met/serviced.

  104. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    The Baller thing… MeAngelo intercepts way more than Nnamdi, yet he isnt considered in the same league as Revis and Nnam. CBs cover, WRs catch. You want Philip Bucanon manning the Man2man?

  105. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Saying someone is the “whitest black guy they ever meet” is a very racists statement.

  106. MistaBrown Says:

    And now he is just a disgraced moron, and golf still sucks.
    _____

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Quick fact on TW. TW is 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 Thai, 1/8 Dutch, 1/8 American Indian, and 1/4 Black. He has always considered himself more than just Black. TW is as White as they come. Holly Sampson said “TW was the whitest black guy” she has ever met/serviced.

  107. KoolKell Says:

    105.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Saying someone is the “whitest black guy they ever meet” is a very racists statement.
    ———————————–
    Wow BrownStains666 takes umbrage at a racist statement.

  108. aig-raiders Says:

    Your comparing dudes who need a some gauze and a bandage to guys losing eyes and dying!!!

    —————
    Edwin Payne died in 2007 by accidently driving the cart off the cliff in San Diego.

    Another true story. While I was in Vietnam, I witnessed 2 communist party members took the clubs out and swung at each other over the rules and a $500 per hole wager. Asians and their gambling blood…sheesh!

    Lost Canyons in Thousand Oaks has rattle snakes all over the course. You can actually die there if you’re too ambitious looking for your ball.

    Hey, golf is more dangerous than you think! :)

  109. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    105.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 am
    Saying someone is the “whitest black guy they ever meet” is a very racists statement.

    ==========================
    Kinda like comparing him to Urkel

  110. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Kinda like comparing him to Urkel”

    Now that’s funny!

  111. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Dont follow golf much. But I would really like to see Rory and Tiger go a it on a big tourney.

  112. KoolKell Says:

    105.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Saying someone is the “whitest black guy they ever meet” is a very racists statement.
    ———————————————
    666BrownStains, the statement above is the kind of schit that keep racism alive in Amerika.

    You make me sick.

  113. bzdup Says:

    I also gotta say, C Wood in his first 4 years prior to his leg injury was the best CB to EVER play the game. People forget that he was the unanimous #1 DB then, after his injury folks started going to Champ’s camp, but C Wood, SHUT DOWN everyone. Including Moss in his prime to 4 catches and 25 yards or something. C Wood covered Moss the whole day 1 on 1, it was brilliant. One catch was a one hander over C wood, that was like for 4 yards too.

    AND C wood could tackle like a LB, and was fast as hell back then. An amazing athlete, with great hands too. OK, fine, I am gay for C wood, but he was the best ever until his injury slowed him down

  114. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    C-Wood over Deion? tough sell.

  115. aig-raiders Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Saying someone is the “whitest black guy they ever meet” is a very racists statement.
    ——————–

    Her comments not mine. Go to the 2:40 mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIS81RIV4o

  116. hwnrdr Says:

    114.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 am
    C-Wood over Deion? tough sell.

    I agree…but close! I’m still upset that he’s no longer in OakTown…but, oh well…that is the way it goes. Glad that he got a SB ring now, though…

  117. KoolKell Says:

    Nobody shuts Randy Moss down except Randy Moss. Not Charles Woodson or anybody else.

  118. KoolKell Says:

    Woodson is a great all-round defensive player. Nnamdi is a better cover guy.

  119. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK

    I am positive its not me who made you sick…more like your overworked bowl cut wife’s cooking.

    Here is another idea it could have been the malfunctioning home enema kit you bought that led to the feces being splattered all over your mobile home walls.

    Could also be you coming off of your med’s (Metamucil)

    One last thought….if no one has changed your diapers in the last week the smell could be sickening.

  120. KoolKell Says:

    666BrownStains

    You must have family bowell troubles. That’s all you ever talk about. Lol.

    Is Al Davis your daddy?

  121. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Is Al Davis your daddy?”

    Yes you caught me I am Mark Davis is disguise!

    By the way my cousin is looking for a double wide manufactured home to put on his property in Eugene Oregon……should I have him call Kane and Associates and ask for Michael Kelly the #1 Trailer park 1/2 breed sales rep?

  122. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 am

    By the way my cousin is looking for a double wide manufactured home to put on his property in Eugene Oregon
    ____________________________________________

    With his sister/cousin, perhaps?

  123. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I will call the Alameda office now.

  124. KoolKell Says:

    123.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 am

    I will call the Alameda office now.
    ————————————
    I’m here.

  125. Master Beeecham Says:

    666, I’m all for you calling Krappy’s office. Not to harass poor Krappy – lord knows he gets mutilated enough on the blog everyday – but to prove once and for all that he never actually goes to the office.

    Why would he when he has ZERO listings?

  126. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I called and they said you went home with a serious case of diarrhea. You spackled all the toilets in the men’s room and left fast walking with your hands on your backside.

    I hope you didn’t shart on your way home old timer.

  127. Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:

    Enough of this talk about Tiger Woods and bowel movements and trailer park incest. Look for the latest OJ story. It’s gonna rock this blog. Oh Yeah!

  128. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Good morning Beeecham

    I thought about you and your ladies last night when Nina and her 99 luft balloons video came on VH1

  129. KoolKell Says:

    ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

  130. Dakota Says:

    36.J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 9:52 am
    Dakota,

    I see you still haven’t come up with the details of how physically taxing baseball is.

    How much energy to you do you use standing around in right field for 25 outs? Those 2 fly balls that were hit right to you get you winded? Or was it the job back to the dugout to sit on you arsse for the bottom half of the inning?

    +++++++++++++++

    Baseball? Hell, 7 innings of mens’ slow pitch softball is more exercise than 18 holes of golf. Carrying the beer into the dugout is more exercise that 9 rounds of golf.

    According to popular science one round of golf carrying the clubs….which obviously the pros do not do….burns just 721 calories….they found that an hour of playing pool burns 216 calories and even sitting on your azz fishing for an hour burns 302 calories!

    So three hours of playing pool and a couple of hours fishing about equals an entire round of Golf…if you carry the bags lol.

    Baseball players burn more calories a game breaking open sunflower seeds in their mouths than a golfer does playing an entire round lol.

  131. Dakota Says:

    Baseball? Hell, 7 innings of mens’ slow pitch softball is more exercise than 18 holes of golf. Carrying the beer into the dugout is more exercise that 9 rounds of golf.

    oooops meant to say:

    Baseball? Hell, 7 innings of mens’ slow pitch softball is more exercise than 18 holes of golf. Carrying the beer into the dugout is more exercise thaN 9 HOLES of golf.

  132. KoolKell Says:

    Then why do most Baseball players have potbellies?

  133. Master Beeecham Says:

    Fo shizzle, brah. Last night I was busy 69ing in the Island’s parking lot after getting a free Big Wave burger from this stacked Germany broad.

    Honestly, the melted cheese was better than the oral gratification, if you know what I mean.

    How about that rumor of Lamar to the Bulls, Noah to the Warriors and Ellis to the Lake Show?

    Dorks, if that trade happens I’m cranking up the PARTYBRO 8500 early, taking off my pants and tossing $100 bills into the Marina.

    MASTER CHEF ROBERT IRVINE IN THE HOUSE

  134. Dakota Says:

    132.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Then why do most Baseball players have potbellies?
    +++++++++++++

    Because pitchers eat a meal between each inning.

  135. Master Beeecham Says:

    Baseball is for goobers. I hear Brian the Genital loves baseball.

    Get it? Brian the Genital is a goober.

  136. hwnrdr Says:

    134.Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
    132.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Then why do most Baseball players have potbellies?
    +++++++++++++

    Because pitchers eat a meal between each inning.

    LOL…except for Lincecum…he smokes some weed in between innings….he’s not fat at all…

  137. Dakota Says:

    The only reason Tiger Woods is in shape is because he burns a ton of calories constantly nailing all those chicks….

  138. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota,

    You’re so full of Shcyttt with your stats on golf. 9 holes is 721 calories which is typically done in around 2 hours. 18 holes = 1142 calories.

    Compare this to ONE HOUR OF –

    4. Bicycling faster than 20 mph racing 1126

    5. Running at 10 mph (6 min mile) 1126

    6. Running up Stairs 1056

    7. Skiing Cross-country uphill max effort 1161

    OR one hour of:
    8. Stationary Bicycle 387

    9. Canoeing on camping trip 281

    10. Health club exercise general 387

    11. Weight lifting light or moderate 211

    http://www.stracka.com/golf-blogs/blogs_post.asp?id=3300716

  139. aig-raiders Says:

    sorry meant to say 18 holes = 1442 calories.

  140. priesttj Says:

    Bcz b4 you say someone is the best EVER you have to prove you’ve seen all the CB’s to have EVER played. It’s better to say he’s the bets YOU’VE EVER SEEN. Because I don’t think he’s the best corner to EVER play for this team. Mike Haynes was IMO.

  141. aig-raiders Says:

    Dang it, forgot this piece.

    Other examples of calories burned in 1 hour for a person weighing 155 lbs:

    1. Golf carrying clubs: Per Hr – 387 | 774 for 9 holes | 1,548 for 18 holes

    I doubt you’re 155lbs so I am quite certain you’ll burn over 2k calories in one round of golf.

  142. aig-raiders Says:

    When you weigh 300lbs I am sure you burn calorie just picking up the pool stick.

  143. Silverandblack666 Says:

    F@ck!!!

    “And just as all signs and momentum were pointing toward the looming resolution of the lockout via a new Collective Bargaining Agreement, the weekly blast of ice water has arrived.

    Per a source with knowledge of the situation, NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith told the players, “Don’t believe the hype.” Smith also said that a deal isn’t close.”

    PFT new post.

  144. KoolKell Says:

    I would imagine walking 18 holes in itself is more excercise than a Baseball game.

  145. aig-raiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    I would imagine walking 18 holes in itself is more excercise than a Baseball game.
    —————

    The bag prob weighs around 20 lbs so yes it is a very good exercise. The only problem is the score.

  146. RAIDER Says:

    Good for DeMaurice Smith. I believe how the NFL players handle this lockout will affect all working Americans in the future. It sets a huge precedent. The worst thing the players can do is cave. There are more important things than football, and this is one of them. I’m glad the NFLPA president recognizes that.

  147. RAIDER Says:

    Beecham’s with a bunch of tall, muscular women with adam’s apples right now, listening to “One Night in Bangkok”

  148. Dakota Says:

    AIG,

    Just going with stats provided by Popular Science:

    http://www.popsci.com/entertainment-amp-gaming/article/2009-01/golf-sport

    “Subjects walking and carrying their clubs burned 721 calories per round…”

    Isn’t a round of golf 18 holes?

  149. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Beecham’s with a bunch of tall, muscular women with adam’s apples right now, listening to “One Night in Bangkok”

    ***

    MR,

    at least he’s not flipping through a family photo album staring at pics of his cousin listening to Robert Palmer’s “Addicted to Love” …

  150. hwnrdr Says:

    Shots Fired! Twice!

  151. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Nice one RR

  152. RAIDER Says:

    Rockstar, dentists across America leave copies of your family photo album in their waiting rooms, to warn their patients of what happens when they don’t brush.

  153. Dakota Says:

    AIG,

    You are right….reading the actual study it says 9 holes….so popular science misquoted it by saying a round of golf which is commonly 18 holes.

    So you would have to fish for about 4.5 hours to burn the same calories as 18 holes of golf lol.

  154. lefty12 Says:

    Google exercises and one will find that walking is the #1 recommended exercise.In an average round of golf the avg. golfer walks 4-5 miles.Sounds like good exercise to me.

  155. Master Beeecham Says:

    RR with the Blog Burn of the week!

    Nice job brah unfortunately 1st prize is a ticket to Krappy’s next Broker Tour.

    I’d give you 2nd place also but that’s a membership to Krappy’s gym and a locker right next to the old goat.

    Maybe the honor itself is enough, eh?

  156. DKnight007 Says:

    Does anyone really give a crap about this top 100 player filler rankings nonsense?

    The rankings are crap anyways. Who cares!

  157. DaveB Says:

    Semantics.
    Some sports are sedentary, some are strenuous, some are inbetween.
    Depends on your definition of sport.
    If you are challenging someone in something, in many eyes its a competiton, hence sport.
    To others it’s only a sport if you sweat like a dog, and risk a pulled hammie

  158. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota,

    I stand corrected in calling you a BS. You were just reading a stupid article written by a lazy reporter at PopScience. His never bothered to figure out whether it was 9 or 18 holes.

    per golf 365 it was 9 holes in that experiment. I found this in an article by the NYT as well.

  159. Dakota Says:

    154.lefty12 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    Google exercises and one will find that walking is the #1 recommended exercise.In an average round of golf the avg. golfer walks 4-5 miles.Sounds like good exercise to me.
    +++++++++++

    Yeah, the average golfer walks the course lol. Just go sit in your boat for 4.5 hours on sunday morning casting for perch….same calories burned….actually way more calories burned if the golfer uses a cart.

  160. RAIDER Says:

    DaveB Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Semantics.
    Some sports are sedentary, some are strenuous, some are inbetween.
    Depends on your definition of sport.
    If you are challenging someone in something, in many eyes its a competiton, hence sport.
    To others it’s only a sport if you sweat like a dog, and risk a pulled hammie

    …………

    Words of a fat ass golfer.

  161. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MR

    Planned Parenthood’s across America are leaving copies of your family album in the waiting room to show the pitfalls of inbreeding.

    Meanwhile Beecham’s with a bunch of tall Swedish women on his boat listening to Billy Squires Stoke me.

  162. aig-raiders Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Google exercises and one will find that walking is the #1 recommended exercise.In an average round of golf the avg. golfer walks 4-5 miles.Sounds like good exercise to me.

    ———————

    It can be if you dont take your score seriously enough. If you do you’re miserable most of the time. I took my score too seriously and was never happy at the end. Weightlifting is so much more satisfying. As Arnold like to say, it’s like having s$x when you get the flush of blood expanding your skin.

  163. KoolKell Says:

    Rockstar

    Maybe you could get Beecham and his muscular chicks and margarita machine to pay you a visit in Podunk Missouri, yes?

  164. RAIDER Says:

    666, planned parenthoods across America are putting up photos of a modern day Al Davis, to warn mothers of what happens when they don’t hug their kids.

  165. aig-raiders Says:

    per nine holes….

    walking/carrying 721 calories
    pushing cart 718 calories
    using a caddie 611 calories
    driving a golf cart 411

  166. lefty12 Says:

    Don’t own a boat.When I fish I walk the river or stream.When I golf,I usually walk the course-unless a cart is required.

  167. aig-raiders Says:

    interesting calculator here if you ever wanted to know how many calories you burn for s$xercise.

    http://www.fitday.com/webfit/exerciseinfopage.html

  168. jbell42 Says:

    The biggest mistake the Raiders made was releasing JaMarcus Russell. What a great talent. The greatness of the Raiders is in the future!

  169. RAIDER Says:

    Richochet’s proof that golfing is NOT exercise. He’s like a walrus, except he smells worse.

  170. Dakota Says:

    166.lefty12 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Don’t own a boat.When I fish I walk the river or stream.When I golf,I usually walk the course-unless a cart is required.
    _________________

    Heck, walking the river or stream is probably 10 times better for you, especially when you factor in the calming influence fishing comes with vs the anger and frustration created by golf as pointed out by AIG lol.

    Both have skin cancer issues though…..

  171. Dakota Says:

    Damn, about 3.5 hours until the draft and no trades….come on Lakers!

  172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RR with the Blog Burn of the week!

    Nice job brah unfortunately 1st prize is a ticket to Krappy’s next Broker Tour.

    I’d give you 2nd place also but that’s a membership to Krappy’s gym and a locker right next to the old goat.

    Maybe the honor itself is enough, eh?

    ***

    Beeecham,

    what gives man?

    I was expecting a trip to Copenhagen!

    now how am I supposed to get educated?

  173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Maybe you could get Beecham and his muscular chicks and margarita machine to pay you a visit in Podunk Missouri, yes?

    ***

    Yes. But I fully expect Beeecham, the Hawaiian Topic girls and the PartyBus 9000 to roll through NM first to pay a visit to JFB on the “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” tour

  174. hwnrdr Says:

    The Mary Jane’s Last Dance tour…LMAO!

  175. KoolKell Says:

    I hope the Warriors don’t take Bismark Biyombo, they say his offensive game makes Ben Wallace look like Domonique Wilkins.

  176. Bauce Rules Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    ——————

    And you are on the record for hating socialism…too funny man. I hope you were just kiddin.

    KoolKell Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    ——————

    And you are on the record for hating socialism…too funny man. I hope you were just kiddin.
    ———————————————–
    That’s how dumb he is, and he has no idea. Yikes.
    ****************************************

    Kell and AIG you cant be serious right? Tax on a person’s income is unconstitutional…any pea brain knows that. Taxing like that is cold hard Marxism and you know it. Why would I be for socialist crap anyways? It just murders people if you look at history

    I’m against living like 1984 in the Orwellian society…I dont now about yall. Not appealing to me. Soon you will have thought crimes and you guys will still follow like blind sheep

  177. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The biggest mistake the Raiders made was releasing JaMarcus Russell. What a great talent.

    ***

    LOL @ jbell

    the Hartford Colonials got Colt Brennan

    the Omaha Nighthawks got Eric Crouch

    the Virginia Destroyers got Chris Greisen

    the Las Vegas Locomotives got Tim Rattay (BAUCE’s boy)

    the Sacramento Mountain Lions got Daunte Culpepper

    I don’t think JaWalrus could unseat any of the guys in that “elite” bunch

  178. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    I hope the Warriors don’t take Bismark Biyombo, they say his offensive game makes Ben Wallace look like Domonique Wilkins.
    ****************************

    Kell…draft Alec Burks if he falls to #11. That’s a guy who will at least average 20 in his career. Warriors can get a real SG

  179. Dakota Says:

    Thought crimes? Oh man, I am going to jail for my murderous thoughts toward Al Davis after the 2009 draft!

  180. RAIDER Says:

    The last time Beecham rolled through NM he wound up with his retirement account gutted, and JFB wound up with a masculine call girl and a sore butt the next morning.

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    about 3.5 hours until the draft and no trades….come on Lakers!

    ***

    trade KB for the #2 and #20

    then trade Artest & Odom for Iggy and Lou Williams!

    nah, I might actually root for the Lakers if they pulled off those trades. Forget it

  182. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, the very sidewalks you sleep on were provided by the government. Marxism.

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    J.J. Barea says he’d sign with Miami

    and so it begins …

    Jhill, thoughts?

  184. Bauce Rules Says:

    I just hope Al reconsiders this WR unit not being complete. I really think Chad johnson would help the situation here in Oakland more than hurt it. He on last legs and a change of scenery can do that guy nice. Cali is a cool laid back vibe for athletes. And being in the Bay Area isnt hectic on pro players. Having a good relationship with Hue and being one ofthe leaders can inspire this guy to higher heights. Teams totally would have to respect him.

  185. RAIDER Says:

    And, Brien, why are you worried about income taxes? I guarantee you, your mom isn’t as concerned about Uncle Sam taxing her as she is about her 29 year old son who only leaves peels himself off the couch to go to Raider games.

  186. Dakota Says:

    183.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    J.J. Barea says he’d sign with Miami

    and so it begins …

    Jhill, thoughts?

    ++++++++++++++++

    He said he would sign with the Lakers or Knicks too.

  187. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Brien, the very sidewalks you sleep on were provided by the government. Marxism.
    **********************************

    Hmmmmmmmm really? So now you see my issue….very glad we have been getting along lately

  188. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    And, Brien, why are you worried about income taxes? I guarantee you, your mom isn’t as concerned about Uncle Sam taxing her as she is about her 29 year old son who only leaves peels himself off the couch to go to Raider games.
    ************************************

    Mom lives in Florida buddy……try again

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I hopers the Lakers do sign J.J. Barea and then kick Blake & D Fish to the curb, where they’ll be free to sign with Miami :)

  190. Master Beeecham Says:

    Hey Brian the Genital, gonna freak out AGAIN today over me “stealing” your fresh lady blog game? Ha ha!

    Only a Kelly Family member would try to lay claim to his previous blog reputation. Nerd.

    RR … dude … you are laying the smackdown on Brian the Genital’s grandpa Krappy today! That Copenhagen roast never gets old!

    I’m so inspired, in fact, I just put on my original vinyl recording of Dexy’s Midnight Runners’ “Come on Eileen”, invited over this Irish stripper named Eileen, and did my business all over the poor gal like the lyrics instructed.

    CANCUN IS THE PLAYA HATIN CAPITAL QIZ

  191. Bauce Rules Says:

    Master Beeecham Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
    Baseball is for goobers. I hear Brian the Genital loves baseball.

    Get it? Brian the Genital is a goober.
    ******************************************

    Sorry you arent adult enough to watch baseball little Beecher

  192. Dakota Says:

    What about Odom to Cavs for Sessions and Varejao?

  193. DKnight007 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    I hope the Warriors don’t take Bismark Biyombo, they say his offensive game makes Ben Wallace look like Domonique Wilkins

    ^^^^^^^
    They won’t take him. They will take Singleton, Thompson, Burks or Hamilton!

  194. Bauce Rules Says:

    Only a Kelly Family member would try to lay claim to his previous blog reputation. Nerd.
    ***************************************

    LOL classic Beecher……throwing stones in a glass house

  195. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think the Heat should re-sign Chalmers, but they can do better than Bibby & House imo

    Magloire, Pittman, Dampier & Ilgauskas = hot garbage

    Anthony = backup 10 mpg guy

    Howard & Jones = no thanks

  196. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, in the free country that these tea partiers envision, you’d be a slave.

  197. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What about Odom to Cavs for Sessions and Varejao?

    ***

    Andy Varejao & Daniel Gibson, final offer

  198. Master Beeecham Says:

    Conveniently ignoring the part about how you wet your panties every time I steal your made up pimpin’ blog reputation?

    Brian the Genital, I should feel sorry for you – being that you’re built like Tyra Banks – but you’re making it awfully difficult.

    Go ahead, write “lol” as only you and Brittany Spears can do! I dare you!

    BK HAVE IT YOUR WAY

  199. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Did someone say they’d rather watch womens curling??

    Have to admit that I checked some out during the last Olympics. Only to see the Norwegians, and that red haired couger on the Canadian team….

  200. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    Brien, in the free country that these tea partiers envision, you’d be a slave.
    *********************************

    I’m not part ofthe tea party lol. I’m not part of any faction. for what? Dems and Reps both got issues as far as I’m concerned. One side has a tough time connecting to a broader spectrum and the other is wolves in sheep’s clothing. Who you think I’d rather take?

  201. Dakota Says:

    If Len Bias hadn’t died Michael Jordan would be considered to be on par with Clyde Drexler and the Celtics would have had several more championships than they do now.

  202. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, if Republicans could connect to a broader spectrum, you’d be a slave.

  203. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    T-Wolves are letting Rambis twist in the wind today, before they whack him tomorrow…

    Sounds like something Al might do….

  204. KoolKell Says:

    Kell and AIG you cant be serious right? Tax on a person’s income is unconstitutional…any pea brain knows that. Taxing like that is cold hard Marxism and you know it. Why would I be for socialist crap anyways? It just murders people if you look at history
    ————————————————–
    Brien, I don’t know who’s dumber you or BrownStains. Are you two trolls the same person?

  205. Silverandblack666 Says:

    909

    that’s my line “I would rather watch women’s curling than basketball”

    Then I usually say something along the lines of how about that Canadian women’s curing team….hot stuff!

  206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Go ahead, write “lol” as only you and Brittany Spears can do! I dare you!

    ***

    HAHA. I remember with BS was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now she’s 30 has 2 kids with some loser and has been passed around by more aspiring hip hop artists than draft busts courtesy of Al Davis

  207. Bauce Rules Says:

    This BS that the dems are such the good guys needs to be erased. Its been a fraud since Kennedy’s fence jumpin ass days

    And no the Reps are not clean their damn selves. Both sides are shady.

    But you dems are failing bad right now and have division in your own party lol. You talk about the Tea party split? And many of yall still blame Bush for such much and this guy in the Oval Office now is a damn joke but you refuse to admit it.

  208. RaiderRockstar Says:

    T-Wolves are letting Rambis twist in the wind today, before they whack him tomorrow…

    ***

    Rambis > Brown

  209. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Kell and AIG you cant be serious right? Tax on a person’s income is unconstitutional…any pea brain knows that. Taxing like that is cold hard Marxism and you know it. Why would I be for socialist crap anyways? It just murders people if you look at history
    ————————————————–
    Brien, I don’t know who’s dumber you or BrownStains. Are you two trolls the same person?
    ***************************************

    I’m convinced now that you are a darker Austin Powers…..a SECRET agent man….no way you are saying this…..no Mista and I are not the same person. Noroc bob and I arent the same person. Me and the man on Moon are not the same person! You dont have to like me and that’s fine but at least give me that ground that I’m my own dude. Spare me

  210. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    ———————————————–
    This societal leech calling somebody a socialist. Jeezus H. Crist.

    Can you be that stupid, or are you just an internet troll?

  211. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    Brien, if Republicans could connect to a broader spectrum, you’d be a slave.
    ******************************

    I’ a slave now so what’s your point?….I know you are a tad bit smarter than this

  212. Master Beeecham Says:

    I would’ve definitely dropped the hammer on Brittany back in the day. I guess I’d still do it now but only after eating at least 6 Hot Pockets and finding an Airplane style full body jimmy.

    The only deal besides Pau for Love and the #2 that I’d do is Lamar in a 3 way with the Bulls and Warriors to end up with Ellis.

    Try to imagine Kobe and Ellis in the back court taking the Lake Show to #16.

    Krappy – 16 is a number that comes after 15.

  213. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Beeecham,

    Don’t you think Hue Jackson should bring the 2011 Raiders out of the locker room to the tune of
    Survivor’s “Eye Of The Tiger” ???

    and lifelong Raider groupie Tom Cable should be hired to to give Elway the Hanson treatment

  214. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    ———————————————–
    This societal leech calling somebody a socialist. Jeezus H. Crist.

    Can you be that stupid, or are you just an internet troll?
    **************************************

    Isn’t America suppose to be based on the bible? We are a “christian” country…right or wrong?

  215. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Isn’t America suppose to be based on the bible? We are a “christian” country…right or wrong?
    ————————————
    Did you even go to Jr High School?, man!!!!!!!!!!!!

  216. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Isn’t America suppose to be based on the bible? We are a “christian” country…right or wrong?
    ————————————
    Did you even go to Jr High School?, man!!!!!!!!!!!!
    *******************************

    I mean is this guy serious?

  217. J Hill Says:

    Kell,

    You’re off ur game today letting that aspiring hip hop artist comment go.

  218. J Hill Says:

    Eye of the tiger???????

    I’d prefer Machinehead

  219. Dakota Says:

    Beeecham,

    I thought the full body condom was from Naked Gun….

  220. Dakota Says:

    and it would be #17 for the Lakers….

  221. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Kell,

    You’re off ur game today letting that aspiring hip hop artist comment go.
    —————————————
    Shame on me I guess, I have no idea what you’re talking about.

  222. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, I never said Dems are “good guys”. Just said that they’re not nearly as dangerous to black people as Republicans are. If it were up to Republicans, every black person that doesn’t act like act white would be in prison.

  223. Bauce Rules Says:

    Point is Kell….in the Bible it talks about fair dealing and fair wages dammit. And all Presidents swear on the bible. What’s the point if they dont exercise that law of the “good book”?

  224. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Triple 6….

    LO effin L…..

  225. Master Beeecham Says:

    Brian the Genital and grandpa Krappy getting OWNED today! So much so they’ve retreated in classic Kelly Family fashion to bickering amongst themselves.

    This is equal to them both hiding their heads under the same pillow. HOLLA!

    As far as a Raider entry song, you gotta go with Hot and Cold off the Weekend at Bernie’s soundtrack. This will ensure a sweet party and with hot babes macking on each other all night long.

  226. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Bauce

    Most of our founding fathers were Pagan they were smart enough to know there is no such thing as God. Which is why they were so animate about the separation of church and state.

    Ben Franklin John Adams Thomas Jefferson…all non believers.

  227. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    Brien, I never said Dems are “good guys”. Just said that they’re not nearly as dangerous to black people as Republicans are. If it were up to Republicans, every black person that doesn’t act like act white would be in prison.
    ********************************

    Yes you do paint the Dems as the good guys. you been on that hype for years man. Nearly as dangerous? LOL if you are even 1 pct a threat to me thats all bad so spare me that who hates you more garbage. Oh yeah blacks all in prison and and dealing with the law enforcement angle huh? Like JFK-LBJ years didnt have black people getting killed and going to the slammer. Too funny.

  228. RAIDER Says:

    Beecham’s blasting some Erasure right now and “breaking the chains of love” with a tranny on his miniature raft.

  229. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    J Hill Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Kell,

    You’re off ur game today letting that aspiring hip hop artist comment go.
    —————————————
    Shame on me I guess, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
    *************************************

    LOL classic gold from Kell

  230. Silverandblack666 Says:

    As far as a Raider entry song should be…..”this old man hes plain dumb he drafted Jamarcus Number one….with a nick nack….

  231. RAIDER Says:

    No, Brien, I did not paint the Dems as “good guys”. See, that’s your problem with politics. You’re in search of a hero. I believe they’re all bad. It’s just been proven beyond any sane person’s doubt, however, that Republicans are far worse than Democrats.

  232. Master Beeecham Says:

    Thanks Dakota, indeed you are correct.

    What would I do without the Blog Prime Minister?

  233. Bauce Rules Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    Bauce

    Most of our founding fathers were Pagan they were smart enough to know there is no such thing as God. Which is why they were so animate about the separation of church and state.

    Ben Franklin John Adams Thomas Jefferson…all non believers.
    ******************************

    That is a whole other discussion 666….my point is that IRS crap is unconstitutional to hit someone’s job income. That isnt fair wages for a man’s work. And bible states that and we are spoon fed we are this God fearing nation yet when you see our practices its not. Kell knows better but he is apart of a higher brakcte of life than you and I.

  234. RAIDER Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Beecham’s blasting some Erasure right now and “breaking the chains of love” with a tranny on his miniature raft.

    ………

    AND THEY PASS BY NORCO AS HE FISHES WITH HIS DOG, DRINKING HIS IRON HEAD WINE HE BOUGHT FROM RALEY’S FOR 9.99!!! LFMAO POOR GUY.

  235. KoolKell Says:

    How stupid can you be? The $64,000 question:

    ________________________________________________

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS

  236. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    No, Brien, I did not paint the Dems as “good guys”. See, that’s your problem with politics. You’re in search of a hero. I believe they’re all bad. It’s just been proven beyond any sane person’s doubt, however, that Republicans are far worse than Democrats.
    ************************************

    My only heroes are Bauce Sr, Bauce and Al Davis….thanks

    How are Reps far worse? Break it down for me my friend. In all honesty…what am i missing?

  237. RAIDER Says:

    The Raiders’ entry song should be “the way we were”.

  238. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    How stupid can you be? The $64,000 question:

    ________________________________________________

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.

    Bauce Rules Says:
    May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
    **************************************************

    A computer hard drive doesnt have the ability to hold all the garbage posts you have spilled over the years old man

  239. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    That is a whole other discussion 666….my point is that IRS crap is unconstitutional to hit someone’s job income. That isnt fair wages for a man’s work. And bible states that and we are spoon fed we are this God fearing nation yet when you see our practices its not. Kell knows better but he is apart of a higher brakcte of life than you and I.
    —————————————-
    Where’d you get that, from one of them chittlin suckin preachers you talk about?

  240. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, Republicans are worse because they ONLY care about the rich. That’s it. The rest of us can work at Wal Mart or rot in prison, for all they care. Preferably for them, white people working at wal mart and black people in prison. Democrats at least try. Many of them are corrupted too but more of them have proven that they care about every day Americans than Republicans. Honestly, I don’t know of one Republican who cares about regular working people. Not one. They pretend they do, but their policies tell an entirely different story.

  241. Dakota Says:

    Madden Raider,

    Didn’t the Republican party form in the 1850s in large part to prevent the spread of slavery into the west? I believe most abolitionists supported the Republican party.

  242. KoolKell Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    ____________________________________________

    Then this dumb mfkr wants to quote the Bible. Lmao, wow.

  243. RAIDER Says:

    1850s, Dakota? Seriously? Got anything more recent on the Republicans? lol. Let me know when you’re ready to discuss 20th century politics…let alone 21st century politics!

  244. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    That is a whole other discussion 666….my point is that IRS crap is unconstitutional to hit someone’s job income. That isnt fair wages for a man’s work. And bible states that and we are spoon fed we are this God fearing nation yet when you see our practices its not. Kell knows better but he is apart of a higher brakcte of life than you and I.
    —————————————-
    Where’d you get that, from one of them chittlin suckin preachers you talk about?
    ****************************************

    Kell I havent stepped in a church in so many damn years its ridiculous. I know better than to do the black church so miss me with that one. A preacher is another garbage Hustler….wasnt MLK a chittlin southern guy himself? Thanks Kell for destroying your little cry baby stuff about me slicing MLK lol

  245. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Madden Raider,

    Didn’t the Republican party form in the 1850s in large part to prevent the spread of slavery into the west? I believe most abolitionists supported the Republican party.
    ——————————————–
    The realignment of the Parties occurred during the Civil Right’s Movement of the 50’s-60’s

  246. RAIDER Says:

    Brien, why are you so concerned about the IRS? You don’t pay taxes.

  247. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
    ____________________________________________

    Then this dumb mfkr wants to quote the Bible. Lmao, wow.
    *******************************

    Kell its not about my belief individually here….dont you get that? The nation is supposed to be God fearing Christian Bible following people. The court system and political system has these cats swear on the bible. What good is it if they dont follow it?

  248. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, I can’t believe Dakota had the nerve to bring up the Republican party of the 1800s. They always try to pull that.

  249. Dakota Says:

    243.RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    1850s, Dakota? Seriously? Got anything more recent on the Republicans? lol. Let me know when you’re ready to discuss 20th century politics…let alone 21st century politics!
    +++++++++++++++++++

    There have been about what 17 Republican Presidents since Lincoln….so if they wanted blacks to be slaves again as you claim why didn’t they do it?

  250. Bauce Rules Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    Brien, why are you so concerned about the IRS? You don’t pay taxes.
    *************************

    Well MR if you read all the posts I’m merely dealing with Kell’s complaint about it…..keep up little fella

  251. aig-raiders Says:

    Tax on a person’s income is unconstitution
    ———————-

    Bauce, I like you and think you’re a pretty funny dude. May not agree with your football analysis all the time but you will man up when you have to.

    But pls stay away from politics. Yes, it would be nice not to have to pay taxes but you do realize that road that you drive on does cost money. That Bay bridge that you use does cost money to maintain. The fact that you are speaking English and have the ability to comment on here does cost money due to our govt being able to be the baddest mofo militarily. Or else Mexico and general Santa Ana would have reclaimed their land a long time ago.

  252. RAIDER Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    There have been about what 17 Republican Presidents since Lincoln….so if they wanted blacks to be slaves again as you claim why didn’t they do it?

    ……….

    Uh, because they have an opposition in Democrats that wouldn’t allow them to, thank goodness?

  253. Dakota Says:

    252.RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    There have been about what 17 Republican Presidents since Lincoln….so if they wanted blacks to be slaves again as you claim why didn’t they do it?

    ……….

    Uh, because they have an opposition in Democrats that wouldn’t allow them to, thank goodness?
    +++++++++++

    So what bill was introduced by Republicans in either the house or the senate that would legalize slavery in the US?

  254. RAIDER Says:

    Dakota, it’s clear you don’t understand United States history enough to realize that the Republican party has changed almost entirely ideologically where race is concerned since the Civil War. Do you not know that? Did you really think that the Republican party today is the same as the Republican party of the 1800s?

  255. Dakota Says:

    NBA TRADE!!!!!! MR, your Queens were involved!

    Posted by Matt Moore

    In a day filled with trade rumors on what’s expected to be a wild night even with a disappointing draft class, things touched off Thursday afternoon as the Bobcats, Bucks, and Kings completed a three-way trade. Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports:

    The Bucks receive: Stephen Jackson, Beno Udrih, and the No.19 pick from Charlotte.

    The Kings receive: John Salmons and the No.10 from the Bucks.

    The Bobcats receive: Corey Maggette and the No. 7 pick from Sacramento.

    Analysis: …. WHAT?! That’s our general reaction. You’re looking at three shooting guards with massive deals getting moved around. Here’s the contract run downs from ShamSports.com:

    Jackson: Two years, over $19 million, all guaranteed.

    Salmons: Four years, $31 million, over $24 million guaranteed.

    Maggette: Two years, over $21 million, all gauranteed.

  256. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Thankfully Don Nelson isn’t around anymore, or there would be concern tonight that we would draft the Jimmer.

  257. aig-raiders Says:

    The Republican party was once a very good party. Somewhere along the way they allowed themselves to be highjacked by the wingnuts just like the hippies did it to the democratic party in the 60’s and 70’s. There are some very good people there but they lose out to idiotic wingnuts now. Sad. Really sad.

    Tip O’Neil was once able to have a drink on a regular basis with Ronald Reagan after hours. Now I doubt Bohner and Obie can ever do that. It has to be one extreme to the other extreme now.

  258. Dakota Says:

    254.RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Dakota, it’s clear you don’t understand United States history enough to realize that the Republican party has changed almost entirely ideologically where race is concerned since the Civil War. Do you not know that? Did you really think that the Republican party today is the same as the Republican party of the 1800s?
    +++++++++++

    It has changed, but just point me in the direction of a bill introduced in the US house or Senate by a Republican since the “change” which proposes legalization of slavery as you claim the Republicans desperately want.

  259. aig-raiders Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Thankfully Don Nelson isn’t around anymore, or there would be concern tonight that we would draft the Jimmer.
    ——————
    Dude drafts guards like Al Davis drafts db’s.

  260. Bauce Rules Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Madden Raider,

    Didn’t the Republican party form in the 1850s in large part to prevent the spread of slavery into the west? I believe most abolitionists supported the Republican party.
    ——————————————–
    The realignment of the Parties occurred during the Civil Right’s Movement of the 50’s-60’s
    ***********************************

    Kelly it was basically after WWII which coincidentally was during a time of many major things in history….but thats another story

  261. Bauce Rules Says:

    Anyways see yall later

  262. RAIDER Says:

    Dakota, you are one serious idiot. No president is going to put out a bill that they know will be rejected. Slavery had ended by the 20th century, and it would have been a political 3rd rail to ask congress to pass a bill reinstating slavery. You’re saying that because no Republican president has had the gall to commit political suicide like that, it’s proof that Republicans don’t support slavery. Just stupid. Since the Civil War, progressive Republicans that weren’t racist started jumping ship, and racists outside of the party started joining. The Civil Rights Act was the nail in the coffin. That’s when Republicans became America’s official anti-black party.

  263. Bauce Rules Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    Tax on a person’s income is unconstitution
    ———————-

    Bauce, I like you and think you’re a pretty funny dude. May not agree with your football analysis all the time but you will man up when you have to.

    But pls stay away from politics. Yes, it would be nice not to have to pay taxes but you do realize that road that you drive on does cost money. That Bay bridge that you use does cost money to maintain. The fact that you are speaking English and have the ability to comment on here does cost money due to our govt being able to be the baddest mofo militarily. Or else Mexico and general Santa Ana would have reclaimed their land a long time ago.
    *************************

    LOL my job? My job? Not my check baby! LOL see ya later AIG

  264. jbell42 Says:

    There’s a rumor that the Raiders are going to trade McFadden and Zack Miller to the Titans for Chris Johnson. Al Davis loves guys with speed.

  265. RAIDER Says:

    Dakota, you don’t understand history, and your ideas are just stupid. I don’t know why you even entered this discussion.

  266. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota: Anti Tax/Anti-Govt, Lives in a Red Welfare State subsidized by Liberal Blue States

    JFB: Anti-Tax/Anti Govt, has had TWO FHA Mortgages

    BrownStains: Anti-tax/Anti-Govt, Food Stamp recipient.

    Brien: Anti-tax/Anti-Govt, Hasn’t paid taxes, EVER. Societal leech.

    RaiderRockstar: Lives in a Red Welfare State subsidized by Liberal Blue States

    So typical with “those people”

  267. Dakota Says:

    Only idiot in here today is the guy claiming 21st century Americans desire a return to slavery. Fkin comical and ludicrous, but I wouldn’t expect anything less from your ignorant azz.

  268. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The Jimmer might average 20 in this league though in a few years.

    He’s a lot stronger and athletic than people give him credit for.

  269. RAIDER Says:

    Dakota, first you compared today’s Republicans to Republicans of the 1850s. I should have put you on ignore at that point, because it was when you revealed you have absolutely no grasp on this country’s history, or politics of your day. Then you came up with this asinine idea that Republicans can’t support slavery because no Republican president demanded to reinstate slavery since then, knowing such a demand would have been a political third rail, not to mention a declaration of war, considering a war was fought to end slavery. You’re too stupid for words. If I were you I’d stick to this NBA stuff for the rest of the day, because you’re only going to embarrass yourself further in this discussion.

  270. aig-raiders Says:

    Bauce Rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Isn’t America suppose to be based on the bible? We are a “christian” country…right or wrong?
    —————-
    No America was founded by a bunch of guys that were fearful of religion and bankers. Most of the famous founding fathers were not big on organized religion at all. The original pledge of alliance didnt even have God in it. It was only added in the 1950’s by Christian activists.

  271. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Only idiot in here today is the guy claiming 21st century Americans desire a return to slavery.
    ————————————————-
    Not all 21st Century American’s. Just about 50% of the Republican party.

  272. Master Beeecham Says:

    Sign Barea and send that washout Blake to the Raptors for cap relief and some biscuits.

    Bynum for Howard.

    Lamar for Ellis.

    Krappy for a box of Pampers.

    Dweebs, one of my ladies has her Laker girl tryout assured by John Black and I just put a balance beam out on my penthouse patio for her to limber up on. Try to keep your nads in your pants, Madden Retard.

    FREE LIVIN’

  273. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    Dakota: Anti Tax/Anti-Govt, Lives in a Red Welfare State subsidized by Liberal Blue States
    +++++++++++++++++

    Anti-tax? Like I said during the election, as long as the middle class tax rates are not increased I am fine with tax increases on the wealthy and corporations.

    But cutbacks have to go along with the tax increases…

    Caught in a lie there KK.

  274. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “No America was founded by a bunch of guys that were fearful of religion and bankers. Most of the famous founding fathers were not big on organized religion at all”

    Pretty much what I was saying earlier.

  275. RAIDER Says:

    Kell, come on, man. There’s no Republicans in America today who wish black people were slaves. I mean, Bush never asked congress to pass a bill reinstating slavery, so that’s proof right there! There. That’s a quick look inside of Dakota’s pea sized brain.

  276. Dakota Says:

    Okay I admit it, at our Republican Party meetings we discuss ways to secretly re-institute the slavery of black people! Jezuz you leftards are nutz.

  277. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I didn’t know having a mortgage was so against the rules for an “Anti Tax/Anti-Govt” guy

  278. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Anti-tax? Like I said during the election, as long as the middle class tax rates are not increased I am fine with tax increases on the wealthy and corporations.

    But cutbacks have to go along with the tax increases…
    ———————————————-
    Ahhhh, you agree with the President, good. Hope you’re more responsible with your votes going forward. ;-)

  279. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    Heck, walking the river or stream is probably 10 times better for you, especially when you factor in the calming influence fishing comes with vs the anger and frustration created by golf as pointed out by AIG lol.
    ——————-
    You might be right.

  280. RAIDER Says:

    The dictionary of Dakota:

    leftard = white people who don’t hate black people.

  281. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Draft Marcus Morris in the first round!!!!

    Than get a wing or backup PG in the 2nd round.

    We have a 2nd round pick right????

  282. DKnight007 Says:

    Jimmer has the same skill set as Steph Curry, but Jimmer is bigger and stronger.

  283. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    I didn’t know having a mortgage was so against the rules for an “Anti Tax/Anti-Govt” guy
    ____________________________________________

    FHA Govt Insured Mortgage? Don’t act stupid!

  284. aig-raiders Says:

    But cutbacks have to go along with the tax increases…
    ——————
    Holy schcyttt. You’re making sense as a Repub. I thought you guys were extinct. I thought it was easier to find bigfoot than a reasonable Repub.

  285. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jimmer is much wider and athletic than Steph, but Steph is a much better ball-handler and passer.

    Not sure about the Jimmer as a PG.

  286. aig-raiders Says:

    Most mortgages under 417k are ultimately owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. You may not see it but what happens is a bank like BofA gets contracted to service that loan on behalf of Fannie/Freddie. The consumer thinks it’s BofA but BofA gets a cut for managing payments on behalf of Fannie/Freddie.

  287. Dakota Says:

    278.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Anti-tax? Like I said during the election, as long as the middle class tax rates are not increased I am fine with tax increases on the wealthy and corporations.

    But cutbacks have to go along with the tax increases…
    ———————————————-
    Ahhhh, you agree with the President, good. Hope you’re more responsible with your votes going forward.

    +++++++++++++

    Yeah, that $1.4 trillion dollar health care bill (still too funny that you believe that number) really shows his desire to save money.

  288. DaveB Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    DaveB Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Semantics.
    Some sports are sedentary, some are strenuous, some are inbetween.
    Depends on your definition of sport.
    If you are challenging someone in something, in many eyes its a competiton, hence sport.
    To others it’s only a sport if you sweat like a dog, and risk a pulled hammie

    …………

    Words of a fat ass golfer.
    ———————————
    Don’t golf. Was making a point that it’s up to perception.
    Nascar to some is just driving a car, something everyone does. to others it’s more.

    Just like to most here, you are a waste of spaceblob who pretty much lives on this board, likely 300+ lbs, who keeps saying you’re going to actually go outside, sometime in June.
    To others you are just a pathetic loser who enjoys getting slapped around.
    To me? you come across as a pathetic little beech

  289. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Most mortgages under 417k are ultimately owned by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.
    _________________________________________________

    Those are conventional mortgages. FHA is a Govt Originated Loan.

  290. aig-raiders Says:

    Jimmer will be gone to Utah. Can they really pass him up?

  291. Master Beeecham Says:

    Nothing lamer in the world than talking politics on a football blog.

    Let’s talk babes and getting wasted instead.

    So the German chick from yesterday who bought me a Big Wave burger at Islands then assumed the 69 position with me in her Prius called and her sister just flew in from Berlin. Guess she’s got Triple Ds and is legally blind.

    They want to bring a Coors Light Party Ball and the German equivalent of Cool Ranch Doritos (Leckere kartoffelchips) up to my penthouse and party serious.

    Trouble is, my usual babes took my iPod on their daily Baskin Robbins run so all I can bust during the triple team action is Weird Al. Hopefully the babes are down with hilarious music parody.

    Wish me luck, goobers

  292. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Yeah, that $1.4 trillion dollar health care bill (still too funny that you believe that number) really shows his desire to save money.
    _________________________________________________

    So say’s the bi-partisan CBO, Yes.

  293. aig-raiders Says:

    Those are conventional mortgages. FHA is a Govt Originated Loan.
    ——————-

    KK, fannie and freddie are both govt institutions. So convetnional or fha doesnt mean crap. They are going to be owned by the govt and the bank is going to be servicing that loan on behalf of the govt.

  294. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    KK, fannie and freddie are both govt institutions. So convetnional or fha doesnt mean crap. They are going to be owned by the govt and the bank is going to be servicing that loan on behalf of the govt.
    ——————-

    KK, fannie and freddie are both govt institutions. So convetnional or fha doesnt mean crap. They are going to be owned by the govt and the bank is going to be servicing that loan on behalf of the govt.

    The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA; OTCBB: FNMA), commonly known as Fannie Mae, was founded in 1938 during the Great Depression as part of the New Deal. It is a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE), though it has been a publicly traded company since 1968.[3] The corporation’s purpose is to expand the secondary mortgage market by securitizing mortgages in the form of mortgage-backed securities (MBS),[4] allowing lenders to reinvest their assets into more lending and in effect increasing the number of lenders in the mortgage market by reducing the reliance on thrifts.[5]

  295. aig-raiders Says:

    A man got laid off after 16 yrs as a driver for Coke. He couldnt afford health insurance so he robbed a bank for $1 to make sure he gets his health issues taken care of. Prior to that he sent a letter to the local newspaper to let thme know of his plan and that he is not crazy. He knows he will spend a few yrs in jail but his healthcare will be taken care of.

    That is very sad for our country. This man would have no problme with the Public Option. We spend a gazillion on Iraq, Afghan, Israel and many other countries but we can’t provide basic healthcare needs to our people. Frickin Amazing.

  296. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    FHA loans are nothing but a guarantee that the borrower will pay the loan and the borrower has to pay an upfront fee, so that when other borrowers default the money to pay those loans comes from the collected fee.

    How is having an FHA loan hypocritical for someone who is anti-tax when the money comes directly from the borrowers and not tax payers?

  297. aig-raiders Says:

    KK,
    1. I doubt you understood what that meant that you just quoted.
    2. I knew you didnt understand it because it is ultimately backed and guaranteed by the US govt.

    Conventional or FHA – both govt owned loans. Get it?

    Stick to real estate bro. I do mortgage for a living.

  298. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    KK,
    1. I doubt you understood what that meant that you just quoted.
    2. I knew you didnt understand it because it is ultimately backed and guaranteed by the US govt.

    Conventional or FHA – both govt owned loans. Get it?

    Stick to real estate bro. I do mortgage for a living.
    ___________________________________________________

    You do mortgages, really? And you don’t know the difference between FHA Mortgages and Conventional Mortgages? Seriously?

  299. DaveB Says:

    Painful checking in on this board.
    Says raiders on top.
    Instead it’s like a womans sewing bee.
    Look at some of you. Sitting here all day, all damn day, so bored with life you just want someone to talk to.
    Same sorry bored do nothing with their life posters make fun of things like golf, or walking, much preferring to spend their lives in front of a screen.
    Some of you wake up to this board, and also spend their whole day here.
    Tha’ts about as close to being dead as you can get.

  300. Master Beeecham Says:

    You’re not going to hear back from pool old Krappy.

    When he’s wrong, he runs away to do one of 3 favorite things: Broker’s Tour (nap), Gym (nap), Work (nap) or Nap (go to Arby’s).

  301. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota,
    FHA is a very high risk loan created by the govt for people that can’t afford to buy a house int he first place and still being exploited by loan officers everywhere. It is a govt mortgage program where the buyer can still get away with close to 100% financing. They collect up front Mortgage insurance of 1.15% for anything over 95% financing of the property. You can have a 640 fico score and still qualify for almost 100% financing. Let’s just say you can get that loan easier than getting a car financed.

    In our industry, we consider FHA as the subprime that keeps the mortgage/real estate market afloat. The requirement for FHA is next to nothing. So long as you can breathe and have a job you can get it. They even lower the foreclsoure and bk standards to get an fha loan.

  302. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    KK,

    FHA loans are nothing but a guarantee that the borrower will pay the loan and the borrower has to pay an upfront fee, so that when other borrowers default the money to pay those loans comes from the collected fee.
    ___________________________________________________

    A FHA insured loan is a Federal Housing Administration mortgage insurance backed mortgage loan which is provided by a FHA-approved lender. FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford. To obtain mortgage insurance from the Federal Housing Administration, a mortgage insurance premium (MIP) equal to a percentage of the loan amount at closing is required, and is normally financed by the lender and paid to FHA on the borrower’s behalf. Depending on the loan-to-value ratio, there may be a monthly premium as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHA_insured_loan

    Talk what you know, and let the rest go.

  303. Dakota Says:

    302.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    KK,

    FHA loans are nothing but a guarantee that the borrower will pay the loan and the borrower has to pay an upfront fee, so that when other borrowers default the money to pay those loans comes from the collected fee.
    ___________________________________________________

    A FHA insured loan is a Federal Housing Administration mortgage insurance backed mortgage loan which is provided by a FHA-approved lender. FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford. To obtain mortgage insurance from the Federal Housing Administration, a mortgage insurance premium (MIP) equal to a percentage of the loan amount at closing is required, and is normally financed by the lender and paid to FHA on the borrower’s behalf. Depending on the loan-to-value ratio, there may be a monthly premium as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHA_insured_loan

    Talk what you know, and let the rest go.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thanks for posting information that backs up what I stated you poor fool lol.

  304. aig-raiders Says:

    KK,

    I do mortgages and I am trying to tell you that both conventional loans and fha loans are ultimately govt owned loans. If you would stop acting like an idiot and actually read wtf you are posting then you would understand. What part of this do you not understand?

    according to your post….The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA; OTCBB: FNMA), commonly known as Fannie Mae, was founded in 1938 during the Great Depression as part of the New Deal. It is a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE),

    What part of the word “Federal” and “govt-sponsored enterprise” do you not understand? Who the F is backing Fannie Mae? Perhaps the United States of America? Got you are a frickin old fool.

  305. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Thanks for posting information that backs up what I stated you poor fool lol.
    __________________________________________

    FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford.

    *I’m sure you can read.

  306. aig-raiders Says:

    per msnbc….2009

    “To do so, the Fed will spend up to $300 billion to buy long-term government bonds and an additional $750 billion in mortgage-backed securities guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. ”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29707055/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/fed-launches-trillion-bid-revive-economy/

    Are we clear now on who ultimately is responsible for fannie and freddie?

  307. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    KK,

    I do mortgages and I am trying to tell you that both conventional loans and fha loans are ultimately govt owned loans. If you would stop acting like an idiot and actually read wtf you are posting then you would understand. What part of this do you not understand?
    ______________________________________________________

    WRONG. Conventional Loans are routinely sold to Freddie/Fannie, a Govt sponsored “Corporation” with different ratio’s, underwriting than FHA mortgages.

  308. aig-raiders Says:

    have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford.
    ————————–

    Translation….allows the market to exploit the people that should not have been buying in the first place.

  309. Dakota Says:

    305.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Thanks for posting information that backs up what I stated you poor fool lol.
    __________________________________________

    FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford.

    *I’m sure you can read.
    +++++++++++++++++++
    …lets try this again.

    It is a mortgage insurance which allows people who normally can’t get loans to get loans, and the up front fee collected on each loan is used to pay any loans that default. Do you understand that? Not tax payers’ money, it is from the up front fees. So again I ask you, if the money is coming from the borrowers themselves through the up front fee, then how is it hypocritical of an anti-tax guy to have an FHA backed loan?

  310. aig-raiders Says:

    We’re not talking debt ratios are we? You want to talk underwriting guidelines to a guy that does mortgages for a frickin living? You care to tell me what the qualifying debt ratio for fannie conforming? Let’s see how much you know. Typical real estate agents. Always thinking they know mortgages but knows zip.

    1 last time you old fart. Who ultimately owns fannie and freddie? Who pumped 750billions into fannie and freddie?

  311. MistaBrown Says:

    Good post MR.
    All in 1 shot you proved you don’t know the difference or role between federal & local state government.
    ______

    RAIDER Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Brien, the very sidewalks you sleep on were provided by the government. Marxism.

  312. aig-raiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    WRONG. Conventional Loans are routinely sold to Freddie/Fannie, a Govt sponsored “Corporation” with different ratio’s, underwriting than FHA mortgages.

    —————-
    What part of “govt” and “sponsored” do you not understand that fannie and freddie are ultimately govt institutions?

  313. KoolKell Says:

    FHA Conventional
    Down Payment Minimum 3.5% Minimum 10%+

  314. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown,
    I see when I leave to go make some $$$$ others come here and bash your skull in while I’m gone.

    lmao

  315. aig-raiders Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    FHA Conventional
    Down Payment Minimum 3.5% Minimum 10%+
    —————

    WTF does that mean? min 3.5% and min 10%. I was asking you for qualify debt ratio and you gave me 2 down payment % that dont even make sense. I think I just proved that you dont know jackchyttt about mortgage loans.

  316. Dakota Says:

    “Under a 1990 law, the FHA turns over to Treasury each year whatever excess money the agency expects to have left over after it pays losses on insured mortgages from what is known as the financing fund. The excess money is credited to the FHA’s emergency reserve fund. In those years when the FHA underestimates its needs, it automatically gets an infusion from Treasury to make up the difference. FHA officials say it is incorrect to consider these payments from Treasury as a taxpayer subsidy. The agency is in effect tapping money it previously parked with Treasury.”

  317. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    What part of “govt” and “sponsored” do you not understand that fannie and freddie are ultimately govt institutions?
    ——————————————–
    Listen dumbass. FHA is a Federal Loan for Low income People/
    Conventional Loans are market loans, that MAY BE Sold to Fannie, so they can re-loan.

    I’m not going to argue tis anymore it’s stupid.

    You know better, Vegas know better, I know better. Fk off.

  318. KoolKell Says:

    FHA Loan are Federal Assistance to Buyers.
    Fannie Mae buys loans from Banks.

    Two different things.

  319. aig-raiders Says:

    You know how effin dumb you are. The reason why 99% of banks sell their loans back to fannie and freddie is because they pay them well. Why keep the loan and lock up your money when you can sell it back to those 2 guys and make money servicing the loan. Most of the time a bank keeps a loan is when it does not meet fannie or freddie guidelines and it still consider that loan to be profitable enough to finance it, which is a very rare occasion. You’re such a moron.

    btw, there is no hard debt ratio when it comes to fannie mae. It is determined by a software called Desktop Underwriting or DU that takes into consideration of the entire loan scenario. I gave you a trick question and you failed miserably. You dont know mortgages so stick to hating on Al Davis. Good Day.

  320. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, in case you missed it:
    —————————————

    Dakota: Anti Tax/Anti-Govt, Lives in a Red Welfare State subsidized by Liberal Blue States

    JFB: Anti-Tax/Anti Govt, has had TWO FHA Mortgages

    BrownStains: Anti-tax/Anti-Govt, Food Stamp recipient.

    Brien: Anti-tax/Anti-Govt, Hasn’t paid taxes, EVER. Societal leech.

    RaiderRockstar: Lives in a Red Welfare State subsidized by Liberal Blue States

    So typical with “those people”

  321. KoolKell Says:

    Conventional

    When a bank writes a 15- or 30-year mortgage, it often doesn’t stick around to collect the payments for the full 15 or 30 years. Instead, it sells the loan to an investor. That investor collects the payments, while the bank gets its money back, plus a little profit, and can r-lend that money to someone else. The biggest buyers of mortgages are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–and they are very particular about which loans they’ll buy. Fannie’s and Freddie’s underwriting formulas are secret, but loans that meet their criteria are “conventional mortgages.”

    FHA

    The higher your risk of default, the more expensive it will be to get a loan. If you have a relatively low credit score or you can’t scrape together much of a down payment, lenders see you as a higher risk. You may be unable to get a conventional loan, or you might be able to get one only by paying large fees and a higher interest rate. An FHA loan may be right for you. The FHA does not actually loan money; rather, it guarantees loans for lenders. If the borrower defaults, the FHA reimburses the bank. The FHA has its own criteria for loans it will guarantee. Those criteria are not as strict as Fannie’s and Freddie’s, but they impose additional limitations on buyers.

    http://homeguides.sfgate.com/conventional-vs-fha-mortgage-9434.html

    Two different products.

  322. Dakota Says:

    “The FHA does not actually loan money; rather, it guarantees loans for lenders.”

    Thanks again for proving my point….

  323. KoolKell Says:

    Fannie Mae was established as a federal agency in 1938, and in 1968 we were chartered by Congress as a private shareholder-owned company.

    http://www.fanniemae.com/faq/faq1.jhtml

  324. MistaBrown Says:

    KK the clown just pooped his polyester jumpsuit.

  325. MistaBrown Says:

    Jerry, the topic went from Golf to Frannie & Freddie.

    Time to blow this blog up, shut her down!

  326. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    “The FHA does not actually loan money; rather, it guarantees loans for lenders.”

    Thanks again for proving my point….
    ———————————————-
    I posted this awhile ago, Dakota, I’m sure you can read.

    FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford.

  327. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains, do you know anything about mortgages?

  328. MistaBrown Says:

    Luv watching you 2 limp wristed libtards have a slap fight. Meanwhile Barney Frank was the one pushing F & F hardcore. At least in between his gay live-in roommate growing pot in his backyard he was pushing F & F.
    lmao
    _____________

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    What part of “govt” and “sponsored” do you not understand that fannie and freddie are ultimately govt institutions?
    ——————————————–
    Listen dumbass. FHA is a Federal Loan for Low income People/
    Conventional Loans are market loans, that MAY BE Sold to Fannie, so they can re-loan.

    I’m not going to argue tis anymore it’s stupid.

    You know better, Vegas know better, I know better. Fk off.

  329. Dakota Says:

    326.KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    “The FHA does not actually loan money; rather, it guarantees loans for lenders.”

    Thanks again for proving my point….
    ———————————————-
    I posted this awhile ago, Dakota, I’m sure you can read.

    FHA insured loans are a type of FEDERAL ASSISTANCE and have historically allowed lower income Americans to borrow money for the purchase of a home that they would not otherwise be able to afford.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    That does not answer my question! Are you slow? it is a self-sustaining program that uses up front fees to pay off any bad loans, not tax payer money….so how is it hypocritical of someone who is anti-tax to use a program that does not depend on tax payer money?

    What is next, Vegas can’t put money in a bank because it is backed by the FDIC?

  330. MistaBrown Says:

    I’m not a licensed realtor, and either are you.
    ______

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    BrownStains, do you know anything about mortgages?

  331. Just Fire Baby Says:

    What is next, Vegas can’t put money in a bank because it is backed by the FDIC?

    **************************

    Thank you

    Well put.

  332. Just Fire Baby Says:

    See, obviously Kool Kell tried to make a point and put people on blast because…well, that’s what he does.

    When proven wrong, or at least not completely right, he will proceed to call you names, post vague links, and tell you to literally f off and shut up.

    Real pleasant guy he is.

  333. Dakota Says:

    Gotta run…KK keep it coming, you always make slow football news days interesting.

  334. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You say your on here for this anti Al Davis crusade, and look what your doing? Is that what your doing right now?

    WTF is up with you man? Pick up the phone and go pitch someone fat azz!!!!!!

  335. Dakota Says:

    KK, I can’t find the answer, but maybe you can….what percentage of federal funds coming to South Dakota go to our 7 Indian reservations?

  336. MistaBrown Says:

    I remember you and KK were going to sit down and have a beer when you rolled into town…
    lol
    ______

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    See, obviously Kool Kell tried to make a point and put people on blast because…well, that’s what he does.

    When proven wrong, or at least not completely right, he will proceed to call you names, post vague links, and tell you to literally f off and shut up.

    Real pleasant guy he is.

  337. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    What is next, Vegas can’t put money in a bank because it is backed by the FDIC?
    —————————————–
    No, I just find it duplicitous for these “conservative” individuals who bash govt and social programs that receive govt assistance themselves.

    I’ve got nothing against FHA Loans, they are a big part of the market right now.

  338. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would have had a beer with him…..and honestly, if he came to Albuquerque I probably still would meet him.

    I talk to old people all the time with my job.

  339. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I’m not a licensed realtor
    ———————————-
    Not a homeowner either.

  340. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m honestly suprised you attack the FHA instead of the fact that my whole and only client base is city and county workers, lol.

    Police, fire, wasteful “Risk management” assessor. My people.

  341. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    I’m honestly suprised you attack the FHA instead of the fact that my whole and only client base is city and county workers, lol.
    ———————————————
    I used to call you disingenuous to be polite. But you’re just a damned liar arent you?

    I didn’t attack FHA, I attacked you.

  342. MistaBrown Says:

    You don’t know.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Not a homeowner either.

  343. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Your a blog cancer, you should be proud of yourself.

  344. MistaBrown Says:

    Well there’s old people and they are cool, and there’s this old fool, a classic case of mental illness, paranoia, and def deranged.
    _____

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    I would have had a beer with him…..and honestly, if he came to Albuquerque I probably still would meet him.

    I talk to old people all the time with my job.

  345. KoolKell Says:

    And frankly, I’m not interested in meeting any of you. I just share ideas here.

  346. KoolKell Says:

    Nope, I just call you racist’s out.

  347. MistaBrown Says:

    You dont have a single idea in that demented empty head of yours. All you do is post other people’s moronic idea’s or stats.
    _____

    KoolKell Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    And frankly, I’m not interested in meeting any of you. I just share ideas here.

  348. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I’m surprised you did not remind everyone that the inventor of the internet Democrat Al Gore’s father was a Klansman.

  349. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Democrats are just wolves in sheeps clothing.

  350. KoolKell Says:

    MistaBrown Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    All you do is post other people’s moronic idea’s or stats.
    —————————————-
    Facts & Figures BrownStains. You know, liberal elite stuff. lmao.

  351. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Democrats have great moral character. Right Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy. All of them were Weiners. Had to go there.

  352. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    “Can’t we all just get along?”

  353. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Democrats have great moral character. Right Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy. All of them were Weiners. Had to go there.

    _________________

    Money + Power + Women. Try not to judge major players through a square box.

  354. J Hill Says:

    How he stay faithful in a room full of hoes?

  355. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Ron Artest has reportedly filed a petition in L.A. County Superior Court to change his name to World Peace. That’s right – the guy who violently charged into the stands a few years ago will wear the last name Peace on the back of his jersey

    From PBT

  356. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Must have gotten the idea from Lloyd Free who changed his name to World B. Free

  357. aig-raiders Says:

    Boy, Irving is a very well spoken young man. Congrats to his father and mother for doing a good job. I wouldnt expect a thug from Duke anyways. Cavs should have went with Derrick Williams though. Dude is going to be a star.

  358. DKnight007 Says:

    Leonard falling to Warriors!!

  359. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Not sure if I like that pick.

    These NBA sons are either boom or bust. Either have that will to be great, or accustomed to things being handed to them on a platter.

    Can he play defense?? That’s what we need.

  360. DKnight007 Says:

    Klay over Leonard?? Interesting.

  361. aig-raiders Says:

    well it looks like Monta is gone. Dang it.

  362. edward teach Says:

    JFB,

    Curry is the son of an NBA player. He turned out ok.

    That said, I wonder if Klay Thompson can rebound or guard forwards and post players. It’s nice that the W’s have another shooter, but they haven’t defended or played defense in years and this pick doesn’t exactly address that.

    Until they address those issues with something other than lip service it’s going to be more of the same in Oakland.

  363. edward teach Says:

    I meant to say “rebounded or played defense”, sorry.

  364. KoolKell Says:

    Yep, looks like Monta is gone. They’ll get a good big man for him. Curry can’t replace that quickness though.

  365. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I love Curry’s game, he is like a savant with the ball.

    But our defense has been so bad, because our backcourt can’t keep the opposing backcourt out of the paint.

    People have to start rotating, and than a few passes later someone is wide open somewhere.

    Klay should be an upgrade from this, but I’m not sure how much.

  366. edward teach Says:

    I’ll believe Monta is gone when I see it, although I admit I have more faith in the cuurent administration than I ever did in the previous “brain trust”.

    Until something does happen though, the W’s remain a team that don’t play defense and don’t rebound. Can’t win like that.

  367. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Don’t play defense, don’t rebound, and don’t know how to close out games.

    Lots of poor clock management down the stretch of games, terrible fouls and an inability to get the big stop you need defensively.

    Nothing I saw from Thompson’s highlights and bio said superior defender.

    Got to hope it was a coaching thing and Mark Jackson will change it.

  368. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If I were the Lakers, I am taking Josh Selby.

  369. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “The series has been a good way to kill time during the work stoppage”

    =====

    No. No it hasn’t.

  370. Nnamdi21 Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Democrats have great moral character. Right Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy. All of them were Weiners. Had to go there.

    =====================

    Bob Barr is the Republican Congressman from Georgia who sponsored the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act, saying “The flames of hedonism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit.” He was married three times, and paid for his second wife’s abortion (she also suspected he was cheating on her). he failed to pay child support to the children of his first two wives and while married to his third and present wife and was photographed licking whipped cream off of strippers at his inaugural party.

    Jim Bunn Congressman of Oregon: Many attribute the success Jim Bunn experienced in great part to support from the Christian Coalition. Congressman Jim Bunn won his congressional seat, and then sources say that he immediately ditched his wife, the mother of his five children, and married a staffer. Jim Bunn is said to have put his new wife on the state payroll for the unheard-of salary of $97,500, thereby

    Ken Calvert, Congressman (R-California), has been called the champion of the Christian Coalition and its “family values.” But in reality, Ken Calvert was sued as an alimony “deadbeat dad” by his ex-wife who said, “We can’t forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky.” In 1993, Calvert was caught by police officers receiving oral sex from a prostitute. He attempted to flee the scene but apparently couldn’t move fast enough to get away from police, and was arrested.

    Helen Chenoweth, Congresswoman (R-Id.). In 1995, Chenoweth had denied having an affair when asked about it by The Spokane Spokesman-Review. In 1998 she called (in a campaign ad) for Bill Clinton’s resignation saying, “I believe that personal conduct and integrity do matter”. Days later she admitted to a six-year adulterous affair with a married associate, but now she claims a pardon from a higher authority: “I’ve asked for God’s forgiveness, and I’ve received it,” she revealed.

    Mark Foley, Repub-ican Representative, Florida Sixteenth Congressional District. Resigned after trying to soli-cit se-x from male congressional pages via an instant messenger program. The conversations included his asking a sixteen-year-old “stud” whether his pen-is was erect and requesting that he take out and measure his pen-is. The cover-up involved Republi
    ‘can House Majority Leader JOHN BOEHNER, Ohio Eighth Congressional District and Repu-blican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Illinois Fourteenth District.

    Strom Thurmond was an outspoken southern republ-ican senator and rac-ist. According to information revealed toward the end of his life, he had as a younger man ra-ped and im-pregnanted a 15-year old African American maid. Throughout his adult life, as a politician and U.S. Senator, Thurmond quietly contributed to the family of the young African-American mother of his child.

    Arnold Schwarzenegger, the hit Hollywood movie actor turned politician and California Re-publican governor, has admitted during a Oui interview, having sex with a 16-year old when he was 28. Recently admitted to fathering the child of his former housekeeper.

    President of the United States George W. Bush, was accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of r-aping Margie Schoedinger, who later died in a questionable case of sui-cide. Bush was also accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper, who was quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999.

    ====

    Ah, Jay-zuz. There are so many many more. Look at them yourself. Of course, if you’re a Repub you won’t. Because facts mean nothing to your selective reality.

    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repub_scandals_10_17_07.php

  371. KoolKell Says:

    Selective reality and morality.

  372. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Should the Warriors consider the high-school flunkie Jeremy Tyler here shortly?

    Need size, and he is about the only size left on the board.

    Major, major ego and entitlement issues with him though.

  373. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hey, look at that. Nailed that one

  374. priesttj Says:

    I think this Klay Thompson might be pretty good. Guys bthat can shoot it fromm where he lets it go aint half bad.

  375. aig-raiders Says:

    Help me understand something here. I thought Sac has a pg already. What are they doing getting Jimmer? They’re going to replicate GW with 2 midgets?

  376. aig-raiders Says:

    GW may not be able to play defense but we sure as heck will be scoring over a 100 nitely. Klay Thompson looks and shoot like Stephon except taller.

  377. aig-raiders Says:

    New slogan for W’s…We are the Mighty Midgets. Stephon at PG, Monta at SG. Thompson at SF.

    The ghost of Don Nelson lives on baby. We got 2 guards tonite when we needed size badly.

  378. KoolKell Says:

    The ghost of Don Nelson lives on baby. We got 2 guards tonite when we needed size badly.
    ____________________________________________

    Obviously one of the Guards are gone. Probably Monta, hello?

  379. priesttj Says:

    It smells like they’re going after Greg Odom….

  380. lefty12 Says:

    KK-#350-great one-not good one-great one!

  381. KoolKell Says:

    Lefty, appreciated, but, we’ve got to do better.

  382. priesttj Says:

    I have to disagree with y’all I don’t think this pick has anything to do with Monta at all. I think it has something to do with this kids upside. He’s 6′7″ SG/SF and can flat out score the ball but he’s also a court savvy high IQ kid that can spell DWright. Monta is a pure SG this kid is a swingman. Very different players I don’t think this kid ca play SG on a consistant basis right away so if you traded Monta it would creat a huge hole. I think Monta’s here to stay this kid just gives us more verstaility.

  383. priesttj Says:

    One thing I noticed watching W’s games last year whenever Monta went off the court vs good defensive teams we struggled to score the ball. Curry would carry us but he would have to damn near do it by himself. I think Klay Thompson gives us a 3rd scorer at all times. You know David Lee is going to get his but Monta and Curry played way too many minutes last year. Jenkins and Thompson can change that. This kid Jeremy Tyler might be a find he’s a big body has played in Europe and Japan.

  384. RAIDER Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    June 23rd, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    Ron Artest has reportedly filed a petition in L.A. County Superior Court to change his name to World Peace. That’s right – the guy who violently charged into the stands a few years ago will wear the last name Peace on the back of his jersey

    From PBT

    ………..

    Tells me he’s the better man.

    That fat jerk and his nerdy little friend (the one Ron Ron knocked out) probably still go to games and start trouble.

  385. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This kid Jeremy Tyler might be a find he’s a big body has played in Europe and Japan.

    *******************************

    You know why he played in Europe and Japan right?

    He dropped out of high school to go play there!!!

    Terrible, terrible decision on his part. The kid has rocks between his ears, and ever report says that he should be a top 10 pick, but everyone looks at him and listens to him, and you can’t help but think of Eddy Curry.

  386. RaiderRockstar Says:

    expecting big things from Dexter Pittman in his soph season

    Congrats to guard Norris Cole!

    Cole is a 6′2″ point guard who can score and play defense. He holds the school record for single-season scoring (780 points in his senior season) and was named Horizon League Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year in 2010-’11

    Cole can dominate a stretch under the right circumstances. He once torched Youngstown State for 41 points and 20 rebounds, adding 9 assists.

    He also gets numbers on the other end of the court, averaging 5.8 rebounds per game last season, plenty for a backcourt player. He led the Horizon in steals that year as well, averaging 2.2 per game.

    Cole won’t be a threat to take the starting job from Mario Chalmers should the Heat resign him, but he could be a good change of pace off the bench, with the defensive ability to win over head coach Erik Spoelstra.

    Go Heat !!!

  387. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ron Artest = Metta World Peace ???

    LOL!

    this dude is one serious fruitcake. Glad LA kept him :P

  388. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Yes Rockstar, I guess Ron Ron flipped out whne he filed that (at least from my stand point about that). However, he was the one that helped LA beat Boston last year based on his defense and his shooting in game 7. If this doesn’t affect his play and his teammates, I’m glad we kept him too!
    Glad for the Warriors, though…at least Curry and Ellis got some help because even I noticed last year that they played way too many minutes!

  389. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The more I read of this Klay Thomspon guy, the less excited I am.

    Chad Ford put his ceiling as Mike Miller!!!

    Fantastic!! Just what we needed, a guy who can shoot and do little else.

  390. hwnrdr Says:

    Who was #1 for the Cavs last night?

  391. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The way I see it, the Warriors play terrible perimeter defense, struggle on the defensive glass, don’t have any good 1-1 defenders, have no low post scoring threat, and no true backup PG.

    I’m not sure if they addressed any of these issues last night.

    The G we drafted from Hofstra in the 2nd round, is not a true PG (a 6′3 scorer……hmmmm already have one of those), I highly doubt we will get anything from this Tyler kid, and Thompson won’t represent much of an upgrade defensively or on the glass at least for a few years.

    Not impressed with Jerry West’s first draft class with us, although with his track record you got to assume something will go right.

  392. J Hill Says:

    The owners have argued that they want a new system that guarantees every team a chance to compete for a championship and a chance to be profitable, while the players have countered that the owners’ concerns can be addressed by tweaking the current system and increasing the sharing of local television revenues to give the owners a larger slice of the financial pie.

    ——————————————————

    I think all leagues should have a hard salary cap and a hard salary floor.

  393. J Hill Says:

    And I don’t think contracts should be guaranteed. The contracts should have injury provisions, but if you don’t play, you don’t get paid.

  394. J Hill Says:

    I don’t think there should be any restrictions on player movement, and players should be able to negotiate gaurantees, years, salary, etc.

  395. bcz24 Says:

    Does anyone talk about football in here anymore?

  396. Dakota Says:

    395.bcz24 Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 7:25 am
    Does anyone talk about football in here anymore?
    ____________________

    Lockout is still on right?

    Okay then, back to the NBA….

    Lakers still need a PG…I know, I know Jhill, we should expect our two guards drafted last night to step right in and play big minutes, just like the Raiders rookies.

  397. hwnrdr Says:

    Not since the lockout, Bcz24….:)

  398. hwnrdr Says:

    Who are those two that the Lake Show drafted last night???

  399. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith told the players on Thursday’s conference call not to “believe the hype,” and that a deal isn’t close. Other than that, he didn’t say much.”

    Man do we miss Gene Upshaw or what this DeMoron Smith guy is a hack!

    watching him run the Union is like watching Sarah P@lin run Alaska into the ground!

  400. MistaBrown Says:

    If the W’s were planning on moving Monta they likely would done it yesterday. The only way for this team to improve is via a trade for a big name.

  401. cranium exercise Says:

    what a treat to be here, a raider blog that talks about anything in the world. basketball, polotics, name calling filth, just the place i’m looking foor. think i’ll invite house fly here. he’s a gas.
    long live al davis and the oakland raiders!!!!!!!

  402. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    LAKER DRAFT PICKS:

    Round: 2

    #41 : Darius Morris (G, Michigan)
    #46 : Andrew Goudelock (G, College of Charleston)
    #56 : Chukwudiebere Maduabum (F, Bakersfield Jam)
    #58 : Ater Majok (F, Gold Coast Blaze – Australia)

  403. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Also …

    Lakers send second-rounder to Nuggets

    Lakers receive: Future second-round pick
    Nuggets receive: No. 56 pick (Chukwudiebere Maduabum)

  404. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Man do we miss Gene Upshaw or what this DeMoron Smith guy is a hack!

    ***

    Agreed with Silver.

    the job should have went to Art Shell

  405. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Lakers still need a PG…I know, I know Jhill, we should expect our two guards drafted last night to step right in and play big minutes, just like the Raiders rookies.

    ***

    Dakota,

    Fisher & Blake = not good enough?

  406. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Are Shannon Brown & Trey Johnson still under contract?

  407. hwnrdr Says:

    Thanks Rockstar!
    As for Fisher and Blake…Fisher is getting older and Blake…well…

  408. hwnrdr Says:

    406.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am
    Are Shannon Brown & Trey Johnson still under contract?

    I believe so but I rather have Shannon Brown off the bench…unless he can kick it up a notch!

  409. aig-raiders Says:

    What are the chances Jerry West ships off Curry to LA for Bynum? hm…..

  410. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade 1:

    Minnesota receives: Brad Miller, No. 23 pick (Nikola Mirotic), No. 38 pick (Chandler Parsons), future first-round pick

    Houston receives: Jonny Flynn, No. 20 pick (Donatas Motiejunas)

    Trade 2:

    Minnesota receives: No. 31 pick (Bojan Bogdanovic)

    Miami receives: The rights to guard Norris Cole (No. 28 pick)

    Selected Derrick Williams at #2

    Rambis fired

    ***

    Is Minnesota now a contender in the NW?

  411. hwnrdr Says:

    409.aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    What are the chances Jerry West ships off Curry to LA for Bynum? hm…..

    We could use Curry, but for Bynum? Unless Howard is a done deal….

  412. aig-raiders Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    I think that’s a pretty fair deal. A good big dude is hard to find. Bynum has a history of injuries so it’s not like he’s a sure thing. Curry is a legit pg and has enough potential for this trade. You never want to swap a big for a small but in this case it makes sense to me.

    I’m Monta fan and Thompson is just a bigger version of Stephon imo. I’m sure the hardcore Curry supporters from the W’s will get on my case for this though. Not a big fan of a pg that dribbles so wide and so slow.

  413. Just Fire Baby Says:

    cranium exercise Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 8:50 am
    what a treat to be here, a raider blog that talks about anything in the world. basketball, polotics, name calling filth, just the place i’m looking foor.

    ************************************

    Yes, Jerry’s World is a full-shop stop

  414. bcz24 Says:

    YEah we talk about everything but the Raiders…

    Had a guy come into the office today wearing a Raiders shirt. My customer service rep started asking him how he thought they would do this year. He said they are gonna suck since they fired Cable, released Huff Asomugha, Bush, Miller and Gallery. He then told me I knew nothing of football when I said we didnt release any of those guys.

  415. hwnrdr Says:

    AIG, that is true, but I have this feeling that if that is done, that Bynum woud have a injury free, monster year for the W’s…nothing wrong with that because lord knows that the W’s have needed a big man for quite some time now…As for Curry, I can see him probably getting better at his low points if he came to LA…if they keep their assitants in place, or rehire Rambis back…lol

  416. hwnrdr Says:

    Bcz24…isn’t that some crap huh? I probably would have asked for some proof that Al released those guys…as far as the lockout goes…all players are still with their teams until the lockout is finally lifted! LOL…some people I swear…

  417. J Hill Says:

    Dakota,

    Are you really comparing playing Oline to playing PG?

    LOL!

    But I do expect Caracter, Ebanks, and Johnson to see minutes.

    I expect us to continue to try and dump Odom and Artest and all the reality shows that come along with it.

  418. bcz24 Says:

    Yeah and besides even IF we do lose all those guys in free agency that still doesnt me we released them.

    Speaking of free agents, heard Leron McClain is a free agent under the (proposed) new cba… I would love to sign that guy. Also heard Melvin Bullett is free, if we lose Huff we should sign him to SS and move Tyvon to FS (if he can grasp it)

  419. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He then told me I knew nothing of football

    ****************************

    Priest stopped by the office??

  420. RAIDER Says:

    “The owners have argued that they want a new system that guarantees every team a chance to compete for a championship and a chance to be profitable,”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI

  421. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think a FB is on Hue’s and Al’s radar.

    Marcel Reece is the typical Raider FB, more athlete than anything else, and a threat to make big plays.

    Besides, running game seemed fine without a true FB last year.

    FS though??? A whole another topic. We need safety help, EVEN if we resign Huff (which I am sure we won’t).

    From the games I have rewatched during the summer film review season, our safeties are not very good. MM34 has zero instincts, Branch can’t cover, Stevie Brown looks like a safety but runs like a LB, and Hiram Eugene is Hiram Eugene.

    Troublesome!!!

  422. J Hill Says:

    I think that’s a pretty fair deal. A good big dude is hard to find. Bynum has a history of injuries so it’s not like he’s a sure thing. Curry is a legit pg and has enough potential for this trade. You never want to swap a big for a small but in this case it makes sense to me.

    ——————————————————

    I bet it does make sense to you and all the Warrior fans, lol!

  423. aig-raiders Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    He then told me I knew nothing of football

    ****************************

    Priest stopped by the office??
    —————
    LFMAO ahahahahahahahahaahha

  424. J Hill Says:

    Marcel Reece is the typical Raider FB, more athlete than anything else, and a threat to make big plays.

    Besides, running game seemed fine without a true FB last year.

    —————————————————-

    The last time we had a consistant running game was when Oren Oneal was healthy.

    I think it’s a mistake to play Reece at FB because of the threat he can catch a pass 2 or 3 times a game. His blocking is TERRIBLE! Reece can beat those same LBs and S playing TE.

  425. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I wouldn’t be suprised if Andrew Bynum barely squeeks out 300 more games in his career.

    I have NO IDEA why his trade value seems so high. When he is healthy, he is a fringe all-star, and he is never healthy.

    What am I missing?

  426. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The last time we had a consistant running game was when Oren Oneal was healthy.

    ********************************

    Our running game wasn’t consistant enough for you last year??

    It was consistantly awesome!!!

  427. J Hill Says:

    If we lose Miller in FA, we should slide Reece to TE and sign McClain to play FB.

    Heck, we should sign McClain anyway and move Reece to #2 TE.

  428. RAIDER Says:

    Every team in the NFL has always had a chance to compete.

    If I’m a small market owner, I’m managing my money better. That’s life. It’s called luck of the draw. You’re not entitled to anything. You don’t have as much money as the next guy, you conserve. You innovate. You create. You build. You don’t sit around and cry. You don’t go to the other owners with your hands out, and beg them to share their profits with you. You don’t ask your skilled employees to work for less than what they’re worth on the free market, just so you can save money for an additional beach house in the carribean. It just takes a little responsibility. Unfortunately, most NFL owners don’t have it. And that’s what all of this is about.

  429. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I wouldn’t trade Steph Curry for Andrew Bynum and Kardashian, and I am not sold on Curry all that much.

    But I would take Gasol in a minute for Curry, and would even be so nice to throw in David Lee.

  430. cranium exercise Says:

    From the games I have rewatched during the summer film review season, our safeties are not very good. MM34 has zero instincts, Branch can’t cover, Stevie Brown looks like a safety but runs like a LB, and Hiram Eugene is Hiram Eugene.
    —————————————————-
    down right dirty truth. and if old crusty al lets asomugha walk we are really gonna have a sore bunger, cause thats where other teams are gonna put it.

  431. J Hill Says:

    I’ll say it again, yeah we got some explosive plays from our running game. But I don’t think we were able to just line up and run the ball on teams. A lot of bad running plays had a Marcel Reece missed block right in the middle of it. Too many 2nd and shorts and 3rd and shorts that went nowhere.

  432. hwnrdr Says:

    Whoa…Curry for Bynum and Odom? Or one of the other? Cause both of them…no! W’s would need someone like Gasol, but will he continue to be Gasol or Gasoft?
    I say those 3 stay in LA, and pray that all 3 can stay healthy and play like how they played in the Finals last year! All year…

  433. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think it was pretty damn amazing that we were able to do what we did in the running game, with Soup and Bruce behind C, and DHB split out wide.

    Reece should improve as a blocker this year. It was his first gig as a true FB in his life.

  434. cranium exercise Says:

    You’re not entitled to anything.
    ———————————
    raider, you dont believe in entitlements?

  435. YoungAmerican Says:

    TE Zach Miller needs to be re-signed.

    Re-sign RB Michael Bush. If he’s too pricey, sign RB/FB La’Ron McClain or RB/FB Mike Tolbert.

    Re-sign C(/OG?) Samson Satele for depth.

    FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete with Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, and Stevie Brown for the starting FS position. UDFA S Joe Lefeged could also make sense.

    OG Harvey Dahl or RT Tyson Clabo for a solid veteran presence on the offensive line.

    OT/OG Byron Bell or OT/OG David Mims, DE/DT Brandon Bair, NT Ian Williams and QB Josh Portis as UDFAs.

  436. bcz24 Says:

    Bullett is a consistant tackler.

    McClain is a great blocker, and a pretty explosive running back. He would definitely upgrade our run game.

    There will be over 500 free agents if this cba gets done. We may lose some big name guys, but i am sure we will have the opportunity to replace them too.

  437. RAIDER Says:

    Cranium, see post 428. That sentenced is clearly explained and put into context.

  438. J Hill Says:

    From the games I have rewatched during the summer film review season, our safeties are not very good. MM34 has zero instincts, Branch can’t cover, Stevie Brown looks like a safety but runs like a LB, and Hiram Eugene is Hiram Eugene.

    ——————————————————-

    I disagree.

    Brown played a lot of FS last year starting with the Miami game that I noticed. I thought he played pretty well. Like a rookie at times, but pretty well overall.

    I think Mike Mitchell was pretty good against TEs and RBs outta the backfield. Agree with you that he can be a bit overagressive and run himself outta some plays.

    Branch played better as the year went on.

    I think we are fine at S.

  439. Deja vu Says:

    Good afternoon fellas! Just thought i’d stop in before i head to the beach.

    I have to agree i’m a lil concerned with the safteies as well. I laugh out loud every time i think about Eugene getting thrown to the turf by Macgahee. He looked like Lechler out there trying to make a play. I’m hoping Huff resigns with us, but i’m sure he’s looking to go back home to Tx. Branch i’m up in the air with him, he’s hot and cold.

    As far as FB, i like what Reece has brought to the table. He’s proven to be yet another weapon and is pretty damn good in the open field/passing game. However i miss the days of John Ritchie. He was a wrecking ball, not afraid to sacrifice his body to plow over anybody. Loved seeing his bloody face after the games…That was Raider football!

  440. J Hill Says:

    Our DBs are going to be as good or bad as our pass rush.

  441. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Post 428 is JHILL talking about out TE.

  442. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Stevie Brown is good around the ball, the problem is getting him around the ball. He seems extremely slow on some plays I seen, bad angles, tight hips all that stuff.

    He is a LB who slimmed down to play safety. At times, he still looks like a LB trying to play safety.

  443. aig-raiders Says:

    Curry for Gasol or Bynum? Done deal for me. We need big bodies here in GS. Gasol would be happier in the SF area if he has to leave LA anyways.

  444. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I want nothing to do with Andrew Bynum.

  445. RAIDER Says:

    Oh, Bri-polar, where are you? Anaconda’s on. We could play some serious Mystery Science Theater 3000 to this while looking at J-Lo’s butt.

  446. J Hill Says:

    LOL at you Ws fan trying to ship us your PG who is garbage defensively. And thinking we would send you one of the 7 footers we would need to protect his back in the process?

    LUDA … LU ..LU … LUDACRIS!!!!

  447. Master Beeecham Says:

    Ha, Curry for Shannon Brown and Steve Blake, I’d consider, but ONLY if the Warriors threw in next years first rounder also.

    The only trade I’d do with Bynum would be for the entire team. And even then I’d have to take a few draft picks because Bredrins is such a tool sack.

    Brahs I partied serious last night at Javier’s in the Crystal Cove. Was 3 bowls of guacamole deep when our waitress asked I wanted to 69 in the private back room.

    I told her to simmer down and get me another marg, seriously, that would’ve ruined my sweet rep.

  448. RAIDER Says:

    This was Ice Cube’s first descent into Hollywood non-gangsterism, btw. He’s playing J-Lo’s platonic gay friend, for crying out loud. Owen Wilson’s role is more masculine than Cube’s.

  449. aig-raiders Says:

    Your 7 footers didnt stop you from being swept by the Mavs and their mighty midget backcourt did they? You know that combo of Jason Terry and JJ Barrea.

  450. J Hill Says:

    JFB,

    It’s not like Bynum was just going up for a layup and heard a pop. Both instances, his own teammates go crashing into his knee. Like Dakota said, those were freak accidents. There were no new injuries this past season and he finished the season strong. As a #1 option on the Ws instead of the #4 option on the Lakers? I think he’d be a 20 15 guys with 3 blocks or so.

  451. aig-raiders Says:

    Unless you’re going to tell me Tyson Chandler was too tough for your 7 footers to handle?

  452. J Hill Says:

    Your 7 footers didnt stop you from being swept by the Mavs

    —————————————————–

    LOL!

    You’re done talking about the Ws already?

  453. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Shaq never had any freak accidents or injuries, and he averaged about 65 games a year. These big dudes can’t take the wear and tear of the game.

    I think with Bynum you are always waiting for the inevitable, for him to start limping and than he is out for 2-3 months.

    You have gotten the peak of Bynum’s career already.

  454. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Your 7 footers didnt stop you from being swept by the Mavs

    —————————————————–

    LOL!

    You’re done talking about the Ws already?
    ————
    Is that the best response you can use? Your lack of response to the Mavs statement is deafening.

  455. J Hill Says:

    Unless you’re going to tell me Tyson Chandler was too tough for your 7 footers to handle?

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    More Mavs talk?

    Look, we lost to the world champs. The Mavs were tougher and hungrier than we were. Props to them.

    But Curry at PG instead of Fisher does not get us past Dallas. Especially if Gasol is the C protecting the rim.

    Look Jerry West is there in GS to deliver us Monta for Odom and Walton. That’s the type of deal you should be looking for.

  456. aig-raiders Says:

    The W’s have zero inside presence. I’ll consider anyone 6-10 and over.

  457. RAIDER Says:

    “Another Al Davis Presser

    Another banner day for the Raider organization as the godfather Al Davis came down from the tower to conduct his first presser in 16 months. And thankfully, he did not disappoint. You could say that running a once proud franchise into the ground, conducting vindictive pressers, and going out in public in track suits, is proof Davis has lost it. And I’d agree. And I hope he never gets it back because he got after it yesterday. Once again, his presser to announce his new head coach was nothing more than a reason to gut his former head coach. Instead of hyping the new guy, Hue Jackson, he spent most of his time trashing the old guy, Tom Cable. He says he fined Cable $120 grr last year because of the “Wrath he brought on the Raider organization.” …he called him a liar and cracked him for bringing his girlfriend on road trips, saying it goes against Davis’ way of living and the Raider way. Oh, so bringing his lady on a trip goes against your way of living, but breaking a co-worker’s face is o.k.? Shattering a co-worker’s face is ethical, but bringing a girlfriend on a business trip isn’t. Allegations of domestic abuse doesn’t violate the Raider way, but bringing your lady on the road does. And Al was just getting loose.

    Photos: Al’s Famous Pressers

    Of course, Davis insists he still knows nothing about Cable caving in Randy Hanson’s face: “Can’t get the story. You know, it’s like Gitmo. Trying to find out, did they water board those guys or not. No, really. It’s hard to believe. How many guys went in? Four guys went into the room with a guy, the guy comes out with a broken jaw and no one saw it.” Just like Gitmo, Al. I’m sorry; I thought I just heard that old man run some water boarding smack? This guy is the best… This is Al’s best effort since he broke out the overhead projector and eviscerated Lane Kiffin. Oh, and two and half years after attempting to end his career, Al had a little something for Lane too: “I beat him because he lied. He’s a liar. He lied to you guys.” What, nothing for Marcus Allen or Steve Beuerlein? Back away from Lane, Al, he’s had enough. He’s already on his second job since you came for his heart. The truly sad thing here is, great days like this are numbered; I mean, considering they only occur every year and a half, how many of them can Al really have left. Two? Three if we’re lucky. All we can do is look forward to the next one; probably in January of 2013, when Al hammers Hue Jackson for being a liar, going against his way of living and violating the Raider way. That will probably be his walkoff shot. ”

    http://www.jimrome.com/take/another-al-davis-presser/22263

  458. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    A snippet for you all. Can’t wait for this lockout to be over:

    http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/article1176983.ece

  459. J Hill Says:

    AIG,

    The topic was Curry and one of our bigs in a trade.

    What does Dallas have to do with that?

    I thought you team was the Ws?

    Do you really want to talk about the playoffs? Of course you wouldn’t have much to say.

  460. aig-raiders Says:

    More Mavs talk?

    ———

    Truth hurts huh? They didnt beat you with Tyson Chandler did they? And what exactly is Monta going to do for you? Run the PG and hogs the ball from Kobe? Makes zero sense for your team.

  461. RAIDER Says:

    Hey RedneckRaider! How’s your chatroom going?

  462. J Hill Says:

    Truth hurts huh?

    —————————————————–

    Not really. We can’t win ‘em all. And truth is at least we are STILL in the conversation for a ring this upcoming season.

    How about the truth of the Ws chances to even make the playoffs? Are you numd to the pain after so many years?

  463. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    LOL at you Ws fan trying to ship us your PG who is garbage defensively. And thinking we would send you one of the 7 footers we would need to protect his back in the process?

    ———————

    Why the Mavs talk? hmmm…You talk about your 7 footers as if that is the key to you winning another championship. So I bring the Mavs up just to point out to your arrogance that it wasnt the Mavs 7 footer Tyson Chandler that allowed them to sweep you.

  464. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    AIG – Ever make it to the Germantown Commissary?

  465. aig-raiders Says:

    In today’s market, basketball is similar to baseball that it will always favor the big market team. I never talk about the W’s in terms of championship because we can never attract the big market free agents.

    The Lakers are like Yankees. They buy championships. Jerry West gave you Gasol for next to nothing and you know it. Kobe told the W’s and Nets that he will never show up unless he is going to the Lakers during the draft. Right now, all you guys talk about is stealing Dwight Howard from the Magic after you stole Shaq from them before. I will never respect teams like the Lakers and Miami. When you actually draft a Championship team, then I’ll give you props. I’d rather root for San Antonio or Dallas. At least Dallas earned their championship.

  466. KoolKell Says:

    Tyson Chandler, Dirk Nowitski, Brendan Haywood, Mavs 7 Footers all instrumental.

  467. aig-raiders Says:

    no Redneck. Wify swore off bbq. We are moving out in August. Looks like I will miss it.

  468. KoolKell Says:

    The Bay Area is NOT a small sports market.

  469. J Hill Says:

    You talk about your 7 footers as if that is the key to you winning another championship.

    ——————————————————

    Uhh …

    They DID win us a couple of rings, didn’t they?

    The point is Curry is not Laker material.

  470. aig-raiders Says:

    You can go to Oakland and its crime rate or LA and its star power/advertising dollars…hmmm…….good one KK.

  471. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    Sorry to hear – where you moving?

  472. aig-raiders Says:

    A pg that can complement Kobe, shoot the 3 or another SG that can hogs the ball like Kobe. Nice one Hill.

  473. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah the Mavs swept us but…they were playing unbelievable ball since the game where we won by 28. I seriously don’t know what happened during the series, it was if they said forget it and passed the torch. Not making any excuses, but my hats off to Dallas…they wanted it more. But the only way I would trade Bynum is if Howard comes in to play. Curry would help, but we have a bunch of those guys. I say we get back Ariza and trade for Howard…and I don;t know WHY we traded Ariza in the first place!

  474. aig-raiders Says:

    Phoenix for 9 months and then back to the Bay Area for good. I will miss Clicks. That was the best Raider experience by far. Even better than being at the game last year for me.

  475. hwnrdr Says:

    And you are right, AIG…Dallas DID earn their Championship! Good for Dirk, Kidd, and Jason Terry!

  476. RAIDER Says:

    LA’s allure isn’t what it once was. You used to go to the Lakers to become a movie star. Now, you go to LA to get your own reality t.v. show….something you could do as a famous pro athlete in any city. Reality t.v. and youtube have just about leveled the playing field in showbiz. Everyone’s famous, now.

  477. aig-raiders Says:

    sorry to offend you Laker fans (like Hwnrdr) but some of you Laker fans are just so darn arrogant I had to remind you of the Mavs series. Later.

  478. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    Hate that I haven’t made it to click’s yet. Enjoy AZ- I’ll hit you up sometime when I get out to the Bay for a game. Signing off.

  479. hwnrdr Says:

    No offense AIG…I was upset by that sweep, but hey…like my friend told me, we can’t be the best of te West all the time…but I know we will be back!

  480. hwnrdr Says:

    Sorry, I meant no offense taken…

  481. KoolKell Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    You can go to Oakland and its crime rate or LA and its star power/advertising dollars…hmmm…….good one KK.
    ——————————————–
    Oakland is only part of the Bay Area…hmmmmm

  482. KoolKell Says:

    Here are the nation’s top markets in terms of television households from Nielsen Media Research.
    1. New York
    2. Los Angeles
    3. Chicago
    4. Philadelphia
    5. San Francisco
    6. Dallas-Fort Worth
    7. Boston
    8. Washington
    9. Atlanta
    10. Houston
    11. Detroit
    12. Tampa, Fla.
    13. Phoenix
    14. Seattle
    15. Minneapolis
    16. Miami
    17. Cleveland
    18. Denver
    19. Orlando, Fla.
    20. Sacramento, Calif.
    21. St. Louis
    22. Pittsburgh
    23. Portland, Ore.
    24. Baltimore
    25. Indianapolis

    hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  483. KoolKell Says:

    COMPLETE STANDINGS (URBAN REGIONS WITH MAJOR PRO SPORTS TEAMS)
    Listing of where the 140 major pro franchises are located in North America

    1. New York 10 (NFL x 2, NBA x 2, MLB x 2, NHL x 3, MLS)
    2. Los Angeles 8 (NBA x 2, MLB x 2, MLS x 2, NHL x 2)
    3T. San Fran-Oak 7 (NFL x 2, NBA, MLB x 2, NHL, MLS; when including San Jose)
    3T. Wash-Baltimore 7 (NFL x 2, NBA, MLB x 2, NHL, MLS)
    5. Chicago 6 (NFL, NBA, MLB x 2, NHL, MLS)
    6T. Denver 5 (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS)
    6T. Dallas-FTW 5 (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS)
    6T. Boston 5 (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS)
    9. Philadelphia 4+ (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL and MLS 2011)
    10. Toronto 4+ (MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS and NFL game host city)
    11T. Atlanta 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)
    11T. Detroit 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)
    11T. Houston 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, MLS)
    11T. Miami 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)
    11T. Minn-St. Paul 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)
    11T. Phoenix 4 (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)
    17T. Cleveland 3 (NFL, MLB, NBA)
    17T. Kansas City 3 (NFL, MLB, MLS)
    17T. Pittsburgh 3 (NFL, MLB, NHL)
    17T. Seattle 3 (NFL, MLB, MLS)
    17T. St. Louis 3 (NFL, MLB, NHL)
    17T. Tampa Bay 3 (NFL, MLB, NHL)
    23T. Buffalo 2 (NFL, NHL)
    23T. Charlotte 2 (NFL, NBA)
    23T. Cincinnati 2 (NFL, MLB)
    23T. Columbus 2 (NHL, MLS)
    23T. Indianapolis 2 (NFL, NBA)
    23T. Milwaukee 2 (NBA, MLB)
    23T. Nashville 2 (NFL, NHL)
    23T. New Orleans 2 (NFL, NBA)
    23T. Salt Lake City 2 (NBA, MLS)
    23T. San Diego 2 (NFL, MLB)
    (23T. San Jose 2) (NHL, MLS; included as part of San Francisco Bay region)
    23T. Portland 2 (NBA and MLS 2011)
    23T. Vancouver 2 (NHL and MLS 2011)
    36T. Calgary 1 (NHL)
    36T. Edmonton 1 (NHL)
    36T. Green Bay 1 (NFL)
    36T. Jacksonville 1 (NFL)
    36T. Memphis 1 (NBA)
    36T. Montreal 1 (NHL)
    36T. Oklahoma City 1 (NBA)
    36T. Orlando 1 (NBA)
    36T. Ottawa 1 (NHL)
    36T. Raleigh 1 (NHL)
    36T. Sacramento 1 (NHL)
    36T. San Antonio 1 (NBA)

    CREDITS
    ¹Market percentages according to TheSportMarket.biz 2009.

  484. RAIDER Says:

    SF/Oak 5th biggest t.v. market in the country. You’re running out of excuses, Al dik riders.

  485. aig-raiders Says:

    Let’s see here….

    #2 or #5. hmmm…I think I’ll take Hollywood and its glitz and glamour. I’m guaranteed to be on National TV every weekend for basketball. I’ll hang with Jack and other hollywood stars and get more endorsement deals. Or I can go to Oakland. You’re a genius you know that.

  486. aig-raiders Says:

    Redneck….

    Hit me up anytime. See if you got time to grab a beer before I head out. You play any golf?

  487. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    KK:

    I knew that the Bay Area was the 5th largest tv market but I have to say that I’m suprised the Sacramento is the 20th. Especially when I see that Orlando is 19th and Denver is the 18th.

  488. aig-raiders Says:

    England,

    I’m shocked Sac is bigger than Denver or Orlando as well. Wow. I lived there for 4 years in Sac and thought that city was a dump as well.

  489. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Aig:

    You don’t like Sacramento? I like that town. I’m just suprised that it’s the 20th biggest market.
    Maybe the A’s should move there.

  490. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Speaking of towns. I went down to London this week and man do I hate that place. One gigantic city spread all over the place.

  491. hwnrdr Says:

    The Sacramento A’s…yeah but their farm league is there…that’s where Weeks came from…

  492. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    477.aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    sorry to offend you Laker fans (like Hwnrdr) but some of you Laker fans are just so darn arrogant I had to remind you of the Mavs series. Later.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t worry about offending Laker fans man.
    Fuk the Lakers. Beat LA.

  493. aig-raiders Says:

    Coming from the BayArea, it’s hard to like Sac. The BayArea is so diverse and Sac is so cliquish (spelling). I used to own a fine dining restaurant in Roseville and had Webber, Tyra Banks, and Geoff Petrie over all the time. Them folks in Sac with money are a bunch of wannabe’s. The avg guy in Sac is pretty cool but the folks coming out of Granite Bay are very snooty.

  494. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    That true Hwnrdr but with the A’s thrashing around trying to figure out where to go I think they’d find a good fan base there.

  495. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Well sure their wannabees Aig, they live in Sacto.
    It’s a good place to live though. Think about: Bay Area 90 miles and Reno/Tahoe in the other direction.

  496. aig-raiders Says:

    England,
    I may be in England next year after my wify is done with her schooling. I’ll hit you up for a beer in a pub and get the Brit experience.

    Being an LA fan can be awesome but a curse as well, imo. You have to win a championship every year or else it’s failure. I like the feeling of David vs Goliath when my W’s take down the big market team. The W’s have been cursed with Cohan as an owner but I think Lacob is going to be much better. We need to stop shipping out stars for free on our team. Should ahve never shipped out Webber and Mitch Richmond.

  497. KoolKell Says:

    I liked London very much. Lot’s to do there.

  498. KoolKell Says:

    I put London up there with NYC, Tokyo as far as nite life and things to get into. ;-)

  499. aig-raiders Says:

    @England,

    Yeah, school system is pretty good and price is cheaper if you can handle the heat. The Bay is overpriced but more jobs there too.

  500. ArchiveTony Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Let’s see here….

    #2 or #5. hmmm…I think I’ll take Hollywood and its glitz and glamour. I’m guaranteed to be on National TV every weekend for basketball. I’ll hang with Jack and other hollywood stars and get more endorsement deals. Or I can go to Oakland. You’re a genius you know that.
    ***********************************
    “hanging with Jack” “hollywood stars” “endorsements”
    Many believe this is one of the main reasons Al went south.

  501. aig-raiders Says:

    Tokyo is frickin awesome. They are so clean there. One must have that city on their list of places to visit on their bucket list.

  502. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I used to wonder why people like Mick Jagger, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Roger Waters, Paul McCartney and a lot more are now American citizens when they obviously love their home country.

    Its called taxes.

  503. ArchiveTony Says:

    I see Frick and Frack and still living here 24/7.

  504. J Hill Says:

    So because I think the Lakers shouldn’t trade Bynum or Gasol for Curry, I’m arrogant?

    No, I just don’t think Curry solves the defensive issue we currently have. Offense is not the problem.

  505. aig-raiders Says:

    Many believe this is one of the main reasons Al went south.
    ——————————-
    For sure.

  506. ArchiveTony Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    England,
    I may be in England next year after my wify is done with her schooling. I’ll hit you up for a beer in a pub and get the Brit experience.
    **************************
    Learned quickly that if you don’t specify, you’re handed a warm Guiness.
    Definitely an acquired taste.

  507. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Aig, buy you a beer anytime but it’s not likely I’ll be in the UK next year. I’m giving serious thought to moving back to God’s country in Jan. and looking for the nearest veterans club.

  508. RAIDER Says:

    The only people in Sac who are “wannabes” in the sense that they wish Sac was like LA or the bay area are your diverse, non cliquish people like me, and in the overall Sac region, we’re the minority, by a long shot. You don’t want to know what the status quo rednecks in the Sac valley think of the bay. I’d say that they want their communities to be EVERYTHING BUT

  509. RAIDER Says:

    The only people in Sac who are “wannabes” in the sense that they wish Sac was like LA or the bay area are your diverse, non cliquish people like me, and in the overall Sac region, we’re the minority, by a long shot. You don’t want to know what the status quo rednecks in the Sac valley think of the bay. I’d say that they want their communities to be EVERYTHING BUT the bay.

  510. ArchiveTony Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Many believe this is one of the main reasons Al went south.
    ——————————-
    For sure.
    ****************
    That was back in Lasorda days, where he loved giving interviews in front of his wall of pics with him and seemingly every celeb in tinsel town.
    Celebs courtside at Laker games. Hanging out at Dodger stadium.
    Knowing Al he prob had a room built just to hang all his soon to be celebrity “friends” pics

  511. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Archive Tony:
    Well, that used to be case maybe but nowadays most beer, even Guiness, is cooled at the tap and bottles are kept in the frige.

    Guiness is a good beer but that stuff will really add on the weight.
    If you’re going out for a beer though, it’s a good one to start with, kind of lays a foundation.

  512. hwnrdr Says:

    England…Yeah, that’s true…A’s will find a fan base up there…However, I will hate to see that happen. But they do need a home!
    J Hill…all of us are just brash at times because we do expect to win all the time…and I still do! I remember being called arrogant because I have mentioned that Lakers are the only one of my teams that are consistent with Championshops! But hey, I am a fan in the Bay…but like I have mentioned to AIG’s post about offending us…I don’t take offense. it woul dbe a perfect world if we all were part of the same fan base in all sports!

  513. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    LOL at you Ws fan trying to ship us your PG who is garbage defensively. And thinking we would send you one of the 7 footers we would need to protect his back in the process?

    LUDA … LU ..LU … LUDACRIS!!!!
    —————————–

    Yes, I think the above statement is pretty damn arrogant considering it wasn’t Tyson Chandler and his 7 foot frame that swept your a$$. BTW, you need defense but you want Monta. When have you ever known Monta to play any defense? You don’t have a pg but you want another shooting guard who will hog the ball like Kobe? Your basketball analysis is not only arrogant but downright lousy.

    I may not be a fan of Stephon Curry but he is quite highly regarded as an up and comer young player. Dude almost won rookie of the year. It was just reported recently that West is a big Curry fan and fighting hard to convince Lacob to retain him over Ellis. I think West knows a bit more about basketball than you.

  514. RAIDER Says:

    Most middle class white people in Sac came to Sac in the first place, or their families did some time ago, because of its resemblance to medium sized midwestern cities. They’re the furthest thing from wannabe Franciscans or Angelinos. They detest those places. Their politics, their people, everything. They go to LA to go to Disneyland, pass right through Hollywood. They have no interest. They go to Frisco to go to Giants games, Fisherman’s warf, tourist spots. They hate the people who live there. I don’t have to tell you what they say about Oakland. Use your imagination.

  515. hwnrdr Says:

    But on a side note…Tokyo is part of my bucket list, and so is England/Scotland…and Hong Kong

  516. ArchiveTony Says:

    Does anyone REALLY believe there is a difference in mentality in big cities? No, not smaller laid back communities. Talking big cities. Considering how many people are transplanted it’s rather bckwards thinking to believe a whole group (of millions) have a set view of anything, much less a city a hundred miles, or 3 thou miles away.
    Sure, lots of locals can’t stand LA cuz of rivalry, but there are tens of thousands of LA residents that live in bay area, and vice versa.
    just the way it is

  517. aig-raiders Says:

    Hwndr…you gotta add Thailand to it as well. Nothing quite like it.

  518. ArchiveTony Says:

    See idiot Raiders comment above as proof that in every area there is a moron with backassward thinking.
    LMAO that he actually thinks he knows what MILLIONS feel.
    You’re such a dweeb

  519. RAIDER Says:

    Well, that’s hair splitting, Tony. You know not all Corvette drivers bought their Vettes for speed, either. Some just bought them as cars to do their laundry and grocery shopping in.

  520. RAIDER Says:

    Not everyone buys a pit bull to intimidate their neighbors, show off at the park, etc. Some people buy pit bulls just to throw them the ball in the back yard. Tug their ears…

  521. ArchiveTony Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    Archive Tony:
    Well, that used to be case maybe but nowadays most beer, even Guiness, is cooled at the tap and bottles are kept in the frige.

    Guiness is a good beer but that stuff will really add on the weight.
    If you’re going out for a beer though, it’s a good one to start with, kind of lays a foundation.
    =================
    really?
    Remember the locals looked at me and shook their head at the notion I wanted a cool lager instead of a warm thick stout.
    Forget what I was served, in bottle, that was cold, but ws pretty nasty, and ended up sipping warm Guiness, as odd as it felt at the time

  522. RAIDER Says:

    So insightful, Tony…

  523. RAIDER Says:

    Tony, I’m sure those locals in England were staring at you for other reasons.

  524. ArchiveTony Says:

    Raider? you really believe you speak for the millions in Sac area, and how, just magically, once someone moves to Sac area, they automatically have a distain for the bay area?
    really?

  525. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hwnrdr: You got a bucket list too huh?
    Go do it brother Raider!

    Scotland is great-especially up in the hielands where my ancestors come from.

    Have a nephew living up there that I went to visit one time.
    He said, we’ll go walking in hills tomorrow.
    So next morning I show up ready for a walk in some serious country and after about two hours of hiking we stop for a break and he’s got a fukin six-pack in his bag.
    Always takes it when he’s walking through the hielands.

  526. RAIDER Says:

    No, Tony, I don’t believe I speak for millions in the Sac area. I’m generalizing. In fact, I even said there’s a lot of diversity here. But it’s mostly within Sac’s city limits. Most of the Sacramento region is outside of Sac’s city limits, and it’s pretty conservative. Knowing a lot of people from both walks of life, I can safely say that almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA. I’ll stand by it. It’s a pretty safe assertion.

  527. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Tony you have to stay away from those tourist places. Those “pubs” in the West End of the City aren’t really pubs.

  528. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I have this feeling that if that is done, that Bynum woud have a injury free, monster year for the W’s…nothing wrong with that because lord knows that the W’s have needed a big man for quite some time now…

    ***

    Hwnrdr & AIG,

    who is the W’s last good “big man”?

    Tom Gugliotta?

  529. RaiderRockstar Says:

    419.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    He then told me I knew nothing of football

    ****************************

    Priest stopped by the office??

    ***

    bwahahahahahahaha!

  530. RAIDER Says:

    And again, numbnuts, people who move to Sac’s suburbs come here because it’s not like LA or the bay. It’s mostly white, conservative. That’s what attracts them to places like Roseville and Rocklin. People who move to Sacramento proper are more liberal, and its also where most minorities move to. Sacramento proper’s population is something like 400k. I think the entire region is about 2 mil. You do the math.

  531. ArchiveTony Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    Tony you have to stay away from those tourist places. Those “pubs” in the West End of the City aren’t really pubs.
    **********************
    The spot I was in was up past Liverpool.
    Wasn’t really a touristy spot, for sure, which is prob why they were so limited in options.

  532. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I think we are fine at S.

    ***

    Agreed with Jhill. don’t sign anybody there

    Mitchell & Branch = starters

    Brown & Eugene = depth + ST beasts

  533. RaiderRockstar Says:

    people who move to Sac’s suburbs come here because it’s not like LA or the bay. It’s mostly white, conservative. That’s what attracts them to places like Roseville and Rocklin. People who move to Sacramento proper are more liberal

    ***

    LOL @ MR

    my family almost moved to Rocklin when I was 15

    good call, quite accurate. I would include Granite Bay

  534. RAIDER Says:

    EnglandRaider, you think Tony really wants to visit real pubs? He’s obviously a run of the mill, American tourist jackass who prefers fake chain restaurants. He hangs out at Chevys and Olive Garden restaurants in the peninsula, for crying out loud. He probably looked for fish and chips restaurant the minute he got off the plane, perhaps even a Round Table. I mean he ordered a Guiness. That’s like going to Australia and ordering a Fosters. He’s basically Homer Simpson.

  535. ArchiveTony Says:

    RAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    No, Tony, I don’t believe I speak for millions in the Sac area. I’m generalizing. In fact, I even said there’s a lot of diversity here. But it’s mostly within Sac’s city limits. Most of the Sacramento region is outside of Sac’s city limits, and it’s pretty conservative. Knowing a lot of people from both walks of life, I can safely say that almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA. I’ll stand by it. It’s a pretty safe assertion.
    ****************
    You start off saying you don’t speak for everyone, then follow that with saying “almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA”?

    You never get out.
    You live in front of a screen.
    When the hell do you ever mix with the public?
    Seriously??
    You have zero idea what anyone on your street, much less the MILLIONS in the surrounding area feel.

  536. ArchiveTony Says:

    Back to work.
    Adios Raider fans.

  537. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Lakers are like Yankees. They buy championships. Jerry West gave you Gasol for next to nothing and you know it. Kobe told the W’s and Nets that he will never show up unless he is going to the Lakers during the draft. Right now, all you guys talk about is stealing Dwight Howard from the Magic after you stole Shaq from them before. I will never respect teams like the Lakers

    ***

    AIG = stud blogger. period

  538. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Tony:

    Liverpool? Tough city and tough people. There are no tourist pubs there for sure.

  539. hwnrdr Says:

    AIG…yes, forgot about Thailand, and I also have friends there that would make it easier if I went there…
    Rockstar….Gugliotta? Was he the last?
    England…I have family in Scotland too…which is why i want to go there. And funny because if it wasn’t for Facebook…I wouldn’t have known (even though I am part Scotch)…lol

  540. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hwnrdr:

    You’re part Scottish? I knew there was something familiar about you.
    Just a tip, if you go to Scotland don’t say you’re “Scotch” because the hielanders won’t like it.
    “Scotch” is a drink only-and a damn good one.

  541. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Rockets have Jonny Flynn on the trade block, already?

    go get’em Riley!

  542. hwnrdr Says:

    Lol England…yeah I know…my mom would tell me stories about her mom (died before I was born) and how she hated that name for Scottish people. But you’re right…love scotch…funny is her dad was part Irish also…so…

  543. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Scots, wha hae wi’ Wallace bled,
    Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
    Welcome to your gory bed,
    Or to victorie!

  544. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wonder if Miami will be interested in Brad Wanamaker, Diante Garrett, Ben Hansbrough or Demetri McCamey?

    None of those guys got drafted last night … some decent PG’s that could be had on the CHEAP

  545. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?

  546. Dakota Says:

    545.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Would eliminate one spot for Nnamdi.

  547. hwnrdr Says:

    545.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?

    Why would they do that? Isn’t he the only corner worthy in AZ? I know they need a qb, but…there’s gotta be someone else…wait…they got rid of everybody…lol

  548. Silverandblack666 Says:

    RR

    There is a story about that subject in PFT today.

    Kolb for Cromartie trade

  549. house fly Says:

    this place really does smell. some good raider talk, like aig, knows his stuff and a few others do to. some in here just plain stink it up. i like it!

  550. Silverandblack666 Says:

    My thoughts are that if that trade does happen then Nnamdi will be a Cowboy.

  551. Dakota Says:

    550.Silverandblack666 Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    My thoughts are that if that trade does happen then Nnamdi will be a Cowboy.
    +++++++++

    Nope…a Raven.

  552. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://www.freep.com/article/20110623/SPORTS01/110623003/NFL-analyst-Nnamdi-Asomugha-ought-consider-Lions

    check it out!

  553. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/6/22/2236872/nnamdi-asomugha-rumors-detroit-lions?ref=yahoo

    #21 wearing silver & blue?

  554. RaiderRockstar Says:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/568541-san-francisco-49ers-why-nnamdi-asomugha-could-the-49ers-into-a-contender

    BAUCE will not be pleased!

  555. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I was under the impression that Nnamdi would want to play for a contender.

    I could be wrong.

  556. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Nnamdi will be a Cowboy.

    ***

    same division. I still say Washington Redskins

  557. hwnrdr Says:

    Uggghhhh…..just thinking about that…nnamdi to…NO SF, please!

  558. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Silver,

    Nnamdi Asomugha will go to the highest bidder and that won’t be Al Davis

    write that down. RRS said it 06/24/11

  559. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis drafted McFadden & Ware last year

    He drafted DVD & Chekwa this year

    He makes Routt one of the league’s highest paid CB’s

    Press Conf states we could use his money to sign 3 or 4 other key players

    writing is on the wall. #21 is done in Oakland.

  560. Silverandblack666 Says:

    #560 I concur

    Good points.

  561. hwnrdr Says:

    559.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    Al Davis drafted McFadden & Ware last year

    He drafted DVD & Chekwa this year

    He makes Routt one of the league’s highest paid CB’s

    Press Conf states we could use his money to sign 3 or 4 other key players

    writing is on the wall. #21 is done in Oakland.

    Yup…bracing for a new backfield! Hopefully Woodson gets them ready and nasty!

  562. hwnrdr Says:

    Well, just about 2:00 here in The Bay…have a great weekend guys!

  563. jbell42 Says:

    Nnamdi will be a Dolphin.

  564. aig-raiders Says:

    RRS,

    Thanks man. I was just a bit annoyed. :)

    Last big man in GW? Chris Webber. Will never forgive Nelson or Cohan for shipping out a big man for next to nothing. Gugliota was a SF, imo. If Houston agreed to let Hakeem go (and MJ didnt take time off), they would have never won those 2 rings. Hakeem demanded to be traded and they said fat chance.

  565. aig-raiders Says:

    I have a very bad feeling that #21 will be a Niner. We know the Niners need a CB and he will be a very good option for them.

  566. RaiderRockstar Says:

    bracing for a new backfield! Hopefully Woodson gets them ready and nasty!

    ***

    Rod Woodson has a tough job as a first year CB coach

    CJ37, Routt, Branch & Mitchell all have plenty of experience in Al’s man2man scheme.

    But if one of these guys get hurt then we’re relying heavily on a youngster with little or no NFL experience (DVD, Chekwa, McFadden, Ware & Brown)

    oh yeah, and Hiram Eugene sucks!

  567. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I have a very bad feeling that #21 will be a Niner. We know the Niners need a CB and he will be a very good option for them.

    ***

    49ers CB’s:

    Phillip Adams, Tramaine Brock & Tarell Brown = hot garbage

    William James = UFA

    Chris Culliver & Curtis Holcomb = rookies

    Shawntae Spencer = average (at best)

    Nate Clements = former Pro Bowler (2004) not living up to that contract

    2011: $7.25 million, 2012: $9 million, 2013: $10.77 million

  568. RaiderRockstar Says:

    34 year old Takeo Spikes had as many INT’s as Clements or Spencer last year …

  569. RaiderRockstar Says:

    49ers CB Nate Clements says he plans to play for San Francisco this season, indicating he is open to a pay reduction.

    “Absolutely,” he said. “I never said I didn’t. That’s not really an issue.” Clements is participating in player-organized workouts despite his somewhat uncertain status. The 31-year-old will likely have to cut his $15+ million pay in half to stick around, but if Clements agrees he should return as a starter. May 24, 9:31 AM

    Source: San Jose Mercury News

  570. DKnight007 Says:

    I don’t mind the W’s picking Klay at all. He has offensive skill and is tall and has length but he needs to get stronger in the legs and upper body be taught how to defend.

    The W’s need to do all they can to trade Ellis for Josh Smith!

  571. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Would Patrick Ewing make a good HC for the Detroit Pistons?

    They haven’t been the same team since they lost Rasheed Wallace & Chauncey Billups.

    I’m surprised they haven’t traded Tayshaun Prince & Rip Hamilton (ie blow the whole thing up and start over)

    30 wins is pathetic

  572. RaiderKen Says:

    Asomugha will be in Silver and Black next season. This is how I know. There are some owners who are asking for the right of first refusal on 4 players a year. That coupled by the Rookie pay scale, and the fact the Raiders don’t have to pay a first round contract. Al has to spend more money on veteran players. So he will let Asomugha go test the market and then he’ll match the offer. End of story. Aso will be in the S&B next year.

  573. J Hill Says:

    AIG,

    It’s pretty simple. You don’t have to make it complicated.

    Steph Curry for Andrew Bynum will never happen. We didn’t give him up for Carmelo. Sorry to hurt your little Ws feelings, but it is what it is.

    Steph Curry for Pau Gasol will never happen. You said it yourself, you never trade big for small.

    Steph Curry can not solve the Lakers biggest need of defense at the pt. Curry doesn’t have the physical skills to stop cuys like CP3, Westbrook, Parker, and the other quick PGs that give the Lakers trouble.

    I’m not quite sure why you keep bringing up Tyson Chandler. But he is another reason why losing one of the 7 footers for a PG like Curry makes no sense.

    ODOM for Monta, not one of the 7 footers for Monta, is a deal I’d do in a second. I’d still have my 2 7 footers to watch his back. But I think Mike Brown can put the want to in Monta to get him to play D. He has the speed, quicks, etc, to be a pretty good defender, imo. And again, for ODOM and Walton, I’d do it. Heck, I’d take Curry for ODOM and Walton.

  574. ArchiveTony Says:

    New coach in SF, along with Nnamdi not having to change addresses?
    If they pony up the money, we regretfully will have to watch him shine across the bay.
    Damn

  575. J Hill Says:

    Right now, all you guys talk about is stealing Dwight Howard from the Magic after you stole Shaq from them before.

    ——————————————————-

    Charlotte drafted Kobe at what 13? We traded Vlade for a high school player (a SG by the way) before high school players were popular to draft high. He didn’t sign as a FA. We drafted Bynum for goodness sakes.

    Stole Shaq? He was a FA and he CHOSE to come to LA.

    Quite frankly, I think we got the short end of the stick in the Memphis trade. Gasol’s little brother and all that cap relief? Pau was a super soft scrub in Memphis before he came to LA.

  576. aig-raiders Says:

    You still make absolutely zero sense but keep trying. Mike Brown can make Monta play defense? Dude is a poor man’s Allen Iverson. Mike Brown’s boss couldnt make it AI play D but Mike Brown can? hahahahahahaa

    Wow…Walton and Odom. You are so generous. Btw, Odom was tossed out as trade bait yesterday and no one bit. You’re a genius you know that.

  577. raiderinparadise Says:

    My question to my fellow raider fans talking the other day about Bush … where will he be ranked?

  578. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    Quite frankly, I think we got the short end of the stick in the Memphis trade.
    —-

    This comment is so effin bizarre that it needs to be reposted. Wow. The Lakers got the short end of the Paul Gasol trade. Damn. Wow. I didnt realize the entire league was up in arms about a conspiracy for nothing.

    Dude, do you sell used car for a living? Your BS skin is frickin amazing I gotta admire your ability to keep a straight face.

  579. raiderinparadise Says:

    Espn.com/nfl Afc West Blog, Jon clayton says OAK spent too much before knowing how to honor new BCA and such. There is no way we can keep: Miller, Bush and Nnamdi, maybe only 1. Don’t expect money to be around for Mankins, etc…

  580. J Hill Says:

    As usual, there’s a communication gap.

    YOUR point was YOU saying YOU wanted one of OUR bigs for Curry.

    WE Laker fans say YOU are making zero sense, lol!

    Of course someone telling you you make zero sense gets you “a little annoyed”, lol.

    It’s just a blog mayne, why do you get so worked up?

  581. J Hill Says:

    There is no neep to repost it.

    Everyone knows I can’t stand punk arsse Gasoft. I hate Euro bigs.

  582. aig-raiders Says:

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    As usual, there’s a communication gap.
    —————–

    Oh, you mean how I said that you dont usually trade a big for a small but a big with a record of injuries is an exception? But of course, you re-quoted me without adding the “injury exception in there”. You’re such a weasel dude.

    You are so right. The Lakers got shafted in the Pau Gasol trade. Kwame Brown was such a stud and you gave him away for nothing.

  583. J Hill Says:

    Btw, Odom was tossed out as trade bait yesterday and no one bit.

    ——————————————————

    So what???

    What does that have to do with anything?

    I’m just saying that is about all you would get from the Lakers if YOU wanted to get rid of Curry. A counter offer saying, uh, no, but we’ll give you Odom for Monta.

  584. KoolKell Says:

    The Warriors need Big’s the most, but not any Laker bigs.

  585. J Hill Says:

    June 24th, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    As usual, there’s a communication gap.
    —————–

    Oh, you mean how I said that you dont usually trade a big for a small but a big with a record of injuries is an exception?

    —————————————————–

    I did say USUALLY, didn’t I?

    Geeze?

    Communication gap as in the topic being Monta for Bynum and you end up talking about Tyson Chandler.

    Communication gap as in when I’m asking JFB if Gardowski is going to add to his legend, and you take that literally, lol. Even when JFB told you I was being sarcastic, lol.

    Communication gap as in how you call black fans who don’t outright called JC a bum, JC Supporters.

    Plenty more, but that is just off the top of my head.

    It’s pretty easy to see when you get annoyed, lol.

    I have a few Asian associates who shall we say, grew up or has associated with the hip hop generation. As with most people who have a “second language” they tend to miss a few things when conversing with “real” dudes. Sorta like Zeva misses a few things and says stuff like is that the kettle calling the pot black?

  586. J Hill Says:

    Wow…Walton and Odom. You are so generous. Btw, Odom was tossed out as trade bait yesterday and no one bit.

    —————————————————-

    And one other thing.

    Wasn’t the initial rumor Monta for Iggy?

    Wasn’t the rumor yesterday Odom for Iggy?

    Let’s see if you can connect these dots, lol.

  587. KoolKell Says:

    All quiet on the NFL labor front.

  588. 504 Raider Says:

    What up Nation? What about this guy, he might come with less than Routt money if we don’t resign Nnamdi.

    http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/06/pittsburgh_steelers_ike_taylor.html

  589. Deja vu Says:

    We should have enough loot to resign Miller and Bush by letting Namndi walk.

    I still don’t understand throwing all that money on Routt. Every time were in 3rd and long i keep my eye on his side of the field, dude makes me nervous. I hope he lives up to that contract.

  590. jbell42 Says:

    The Raiders are the skid mark in the underwear of the NFL.

  591. jbell42 Says:

    Raiders are much better team with Gradkowski as the starter rather than Campbell.

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