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Top 100: Where will Nnamdi finish?

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The Raiders’ third and presumably final player named to the NFL Network’s Top 100 list will be cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

Asomugha’s name hasn’t come up yet even though the countdown continues at No. 20 through No. 11 Sunday on the NFL Network.

It speaks to Asomugha’s reputation among his peers, given that voting is done by fellow players. The only Raiders to be voted among the top 100 players in the NFL were running back Darren McFadden (No. 98) and defensive tackle Richard Seymour (No. 66).

Only two cornerbacks have been listed so far _ Philadelphia’s Asante Samuel (No. 54) and Denver’s Champ Bailey (No. 48).

Asomugha and probably two others remain _ the Jets’ Darrelle Revis and the Packers’ Charles Woodson.

Players were asked to list the top 20 players in the NFL then votes were tabulated to reach a top 100. The current list is in the lower right hand corner of the link provided here.

The series has been a good way to kill time during the work stoppage, a way to spark the kind of bar stool arguments and debates which otherwise would deteriorate into discussions about rookie wage scales, percentage of the gross and 18-game regular seasons.

For instance:

— Given the format, the list doesn’t remotely resemble what NFL teams would think about a prospective player. Take for instance, McFadden’s ranking at No. 98. Ranked ahead of McFadden are the 49ers’ Frank Gore (No. 94), Baltimore’s Ray Rice (56), Atlanta’s Michael Turner (42), the Rams’ Steven Jackson (38), the Chiefs’ Jamal Charles (33), Jacksonville’s Maurice Jones-Drew (30) and Houston’s Arian Foster (25). Still to come are the Titans’ Chris Johnson and Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson.

Put all those names in a box and allow teams to draft and McFadden, based on his third season, would leapfrog at least three players. At the NFL scouting combine the year McFadden came out, he’d be an instant starter on the 49ers _ ahead of Gore, who had already established himself as a Pro Bowl runner.

I thought about that for two years while McFadden battled injuries and looked nothing like the player he’d been at Arkansas. Last season, that evaluation was spot-on.

— Considering Seymour’s track record, his inclusion at No 66 seems a bit low. That’s well behind former teammate Vince Wilfork (No. 35), second-year player Ndamukong Suh (No. 51), and Miami end/linebacker Cameron Wake (No. 63) and Chiefs rush end Tamba Hali (No. 64).

Seymour is considerably older than all those players and all would probably be preferred in an open draft situation. But NFL players probably aren’t thinking that deeply. They’re simply putting down the first names that come to mind. And I’m surprised Seymour’s mind didn’t come to mind on more ballots than players with less of a pedigree.

— Donovan McNabb’s inclusion at No. 100 means some players listed him as among the top 20 players in the NFL, when I’m not sure he’s a slam dunk for being among the top 20 quarterbacks. (OK, top 15, maybe).

— Devin Hester at No. 32? Still more of a gimmick guy as a wide receiver, although the occasional returns are nice. Way too high. At this point, I’d rather have Jacoby Ford.

— Eight players deemed by their peers to be among the top 100 players in the NFL were selected in the 2007 NFL draft after JaMarcus Russell went No. 1 overall _ Detroit wide receiver Calvin Johnson (No. 27, second overall pick), Browns tackle Joe Thomas (No. 43, third overall pick), Peterson (TBA, seventh overall pick), 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis (23rd, 11th overall pick); Revis (TBA, 14th overall pick), Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe (No. 45, 23rd overall pick), Carolina linebacker Jon Beason (No. 95, 25th overall pick) and Steelers linebacker LeMarr Woodley (No. 82, 46th overall pick).

— As for Asomugha vs. Revis vs. Woodson here’s how Atlanta wide receiver Roddy White broke it down for the NFL Network:

1) Revis: Revis is the number one cover guy in the league right now. He’s strong at the point of attack . . . He always gets his hands on you. He disrupts the timing of routes. That’s the biggest thing about the passing game, everything has to be on time — precision. And he does such a good job of (disrupting timing).

2) Asomugha: Nnamdi’s the same way. He disrupts timing. The only thing about Nnamdi, he’s not as good of a ball-catcher as Revis. That’s why I put Revis over him. He’s not a ball-hawking guy, but you can’t complete any balls over Nnamdi.

4) Woodson: He’s like a wild card not really a corner. He does it all. He’s the only guy that’s just a playmaker at the corner position . . . he can’t cover like he used to, but he does a good enough job.”

(He ranks Bailey above Woodson)

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • aig-raiders

    Tokyo is frickin awesome. They are so clean there. One must have that city on their list of places to visit on their bucket list.

  • Silverandblack666

    I used to wonder why people like Mick Jagger, Elton John, Eric Clapton, Roger Waters, Paul McCartney and a lot more are now American citizens when they obviously love their home country.

    Its called taxes.

  • ArchiveTony

    I see Frick and Frack and still living here 24/7.

  • J Hill

    So because I think the Lakers shouldn’t trade Bynum or Gasol for Curry, I’m arrogant?

    No, I just don’t think Curry solves the defensive issue we currently have. Offense is not the problem.

  • aig-raiders

    Many believe this is one of the main reasons Al went south.
    ——————————-
    For sure.

  • ArchiveTony

    aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    England,
    I may be in England next year after my wify is done with her schooling. I’ll hit you up for a beer in a pub and get the Brit experience.
    **************************
    Learned quickly that if you don’t specify, you’re handed a warm Guiness.
    Definitely an acquired taste.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Aig, buy you a beer anytime but it’s not likely I’ll be in the UK next year. I’m giving serious thought to moving back to God’s country in Jan. and looking for the nearest veterans club.

  • The only people in Sac who are “wannabes” in the sense that they wish Sac was like LA or the bay area are your diverse, non cliquish people like me, and in the overall Sac region, we’re the minority, by a long shot. You don’t want to know what the status quo rednecks in the Sac valley think of the bay. I’d say that they want their communities to be EVERYTHING BUT

  • The only people in Sac who are “wannabes” in the sense that they wish Sac was like LA or the bay area are your diverse, non cliquish people like me, and in the overall Sac region, we’re the minority, by a long shot. You don’t want to know what the status quo rednecks in the Sac valley think of the bay. I’d say that they want their communities to be EVERYTHING BUT the bay.

  • ArchiveTony

    aig-raiders Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Many believe this is one of the main reasons Al went south.
    ——————————-
    For sure.
    ****************
    That was back in Lasorda days, where he loved giving interviews in front of his wall of pics with him and seemingly every celeb in tinsel town.
    Celebs courtside at Laker games. Hanging out at Dodger stadium.
    Knowing Al he prob had a room built just to hang all his soon to be celebrity “friends” pics

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Archive Tony:
    Well, that used to be case maybe but nowadays most beer, even Guiness, is cooled at the tap and bottles are kept in the frige.

    Guiness is a good beer but that stuff will really add on the weight.
    If you’re going out for a beer though, it’s a good one to start with, kind of lays a foundation.

  • hwnrdr

    England…Yeah, that’s true…A’s will find a fan base up there…However, I will hate to see that happen. But they do need a home!
    J Hill…all of us are just brash at times because we do expect to win all the time…and I still do! I remember being called arrogant because I have mentioned that Lakers are the only one of my teams that are consistent with Championshops! But hey, I am a fan in the Bay…but like I have mentioned to AIG’s post about offending us…I don’t take offense. it woul dbe a perfect world if we all were part of the same fan base in all sports!

  • aig-raiders

    J Hill Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    LOL at you Ws fan trying to ship us your PG who is garbage defensively. And thinking we would send you one of the 7 footers we would need to protect his back in the process?

    LUDA … LU ..LU … LUDACRIS!!!!
    —————————–

    Yes, I think the above statement is pretty damn arrogant considering it wasn’t Tyson Chandler and his 7 foot frame that swept your a$$. BTW, you need defense but you want Monta. When have you ever known Monta to play any defense? You don’t have a pg but you want another shooting guard who will hog the ball like Kobe? Your basketball analysis is not only arrogant but downright lousy.

    I may not be a fan of Stephon Curry but he is quite highly regarded as an up and comer young player. Dude almost won rookie of the year. It was just reported recently that West is a big Curry fan and fighting hard to convince Lacob to retain him over Ellis. I think West knows a bit more about basketball than you.

  • Most middle class white people in Sac came to Sac in the first place, or their families did some time ago, because of its resemblance to medium sized midwestern cities. They’re the furthest thing from wannabe Franciscans or Angelinos. They detest those places. Their politics, their people, everything. They go to LA to go to Disneyland, pass right through Hollywood. They have no interest. They go to Frisco to go to Giants games, Fisherman’s warf, tourist spots. They hate the people who live there. I don’t have to tell you what they say about Oakland. Use your imagination.

  • hwnrdr

    But on a side note…Tokyo is part of my bucket list, and so is England/Scotland…and Hong Kong

  • ArchiveTony

    Does anyone REALLY believe there is a difference in mentality in big cities? No, not smaller laid back communities. Talking big cities. Considering how many people are transplanted it’s rather bckwards thinking to believe a whole group (of millions) have a set view of anything, much less a city a hundred miles, or 3 thou miles away.
    Sure, lots of locals can’t stand LA cuz of rivalry, but there are tens of thousands of LA residents that live in bay area, and vice versa.
    just the way it is

  • aig-raiders

    Hwndr…you gotta add Thailand to it as well. Nothing quite like it.

  • ArchiveTony

    See idiot Raiders comment above as proof that in every area there is a moron with backassward thinking.
    LMAO that he actually thinks he knows what MILLIONS feel.
    You’re such a dweeb

  • Well, that’s hair splitting, Tony. You know not all Corvette drivers bought their Vettes for speed, either. Some just bought them as cars to do their laundry and grocery shopping in.

  • Not everyone buys a pit bull to intimidate their neighbors, show off at the park, etc. Some people buy pit bulls just to throw them the ball in the back yard. Tug their ears…

  • ArchiveTony

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    Archive Tony:
    Well, that used to be case maybe but nowadays most beer, even Guiness, is cooled at the tap and bottles are kept in the frige.

    Guiness is a good beer but that stuff will really add on the weight.
    If you’re going out for a beer though, it’s a good one to start with, kind of lays a foundation.
    =================
    really?
    Remember the locals looked at me and shook their head at the notion I wanted a cool lager instead of a warm thick stout.
    Forget what I was served, in bottle, that was cold, but ws pretty nasty, and ended up sipping warm Guiness, as odd as it felt at the time

  • So insightful, Tony…

  • Tony, I’m sure those locals in England were staring at you for other reasons.

  • ArchiveTony

    Raider? you really believe you speak for the millions in Sac area, and how, just magically, once someone moves to Sac area, they automatically have a distain for the bay area?
    really?

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Hwnrdr: You got a bucket list too huh?
    Go do it brother Raider!

    Scotland is great-especially up in the hielands where my ancestors come from.

    Have a nephew living up there that I went to visit one time.
    He said, we’ll go walking in hills tomorrow.
    So next morning I show up ready for a walk in some serious country and after about two hours of hiking we stop for a break and he’s got a fukin six-pack in his bag.
    Always takes it when he’s walking through the hielands.

  • No, Tony, I don’t believe I speak for millions in the Sac area. I’m generalizing. In fact, I even said there’s a lot of diversity here. But it’s mostly within Sac’s city limits. Most of the Sacramento region is outside of Sac’s city limits, and it’s pretty conservative. Knowing a lot of people from both walks of life, I can safely say that almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA. I’ll stand by it. It’s a pretty safe assertion.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Tony you have to stay away from those tourist places. Those “pubs” in the West End of the City aren’t really pubs.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I have this feeling that if that is done, that Bynum woud have a injury free, monster year for the W’s…nothing wrong with that because lord knows that the W’s have needed a big man for quite some time now…

    ***

    Hwnrdr & AIG,

    who is the W’s last good “big man”?

    Tom Gugliotta?

  • RaiderRockstar

    419.Just Fire Baby Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    He then told me I knew nothing of football

    ****************************

    Priest stopped by the office??

    ***

    bwahahahahahahaha!

  • And again, numbnuts, people who move to Sac’s suburbs come here because it’s not like LA or the bay. It’s mostly white, conservative. That’s what attracts them to places like Roseville and Rocklin. People who move to Sacramento proper are more liberal, and its also where most minorities move to. Sacramento proper’s population is something like 400k. I think the entire region is about 2 mil. You do the math.

  • ArchiveTony

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    Tony you have to stay away from those tourist places. Those “pubs” in the West End of the City aren’t really pubs.
    **********************
    The spot I was in was up past Liverpool.
    Wasn’t really a touristy spot, for sure, which is prob why they were so limited in options.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I think we are fine at S.

    ***

    Agreed with Jhill. don’t sign anybody there

    Mitchell & Branch = starters

    Brown & Eugene = depth + ST beasts

  • RaiderRockstar

    people who move to Sac’s suburbs come here because it’s not like LA or the bay. It’s mostly white, conservative. That’s what attracts them to places like Roseville and Rocklin. People who move to Sacramento proper are more liberal

    ***

    LOL @ MR

    my family almost moved to Rocklin when I was 15

    good call, quite accurate. I would include Granite Bay

  • EnglandRaider, you think Tony really wants to visit real pubs? He’s obviously a run of the mill, American tourist jackass who prefers fake chain restaurants. He hangs out at Chevys and Olive Garden restaurants in the peninsula, for crying out loud. He probably looked for fish and chips restaurant the minute he got off the plane, perhaps even a Round Table. I mean he ordered a Guiness. That’s like going to Australia and ordering a Fosters. He’s basically Homer Simpson.

  • ArchiveTony

    RAIDER Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    No, Tony, I don’t believe I speak for millions in the Sac area. I’m generalizing. In fact, I even said there’s a lot of diversity here. But it’s mostly within Sac’s city limits. Most of the Sacramento region is outside of Sac’s city limits, and it’s pretty conservative. Knowing a lot of people from both walks of life, I can safely say that almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA. I’ll stand by it. It’s a pretty safe assertion.
    ****************
    You start off saying you don’t speak for everyone, then follow that with saying “almost everyone in the latter category hates SF and LA”?

    You never get out.
    You live in front of a screen.
    When the hell do you ever mix with the public?
    Seriously??
    You have zero idea what anyone on your street, much less the MILLIONS in the surrounding area feel.

  • ArchiveTony

    Back to work.
    Adios Raider fans.

  • RaiderRockstar

    The Lakers are like Yankees. They buy championships. Jerry West gave you Gasol for next to nothing and you know it. Kobe told the W’s and Nets that he will never show up unless he is going to the Lakers during the draft. Right now, all you guys talk about is stealing Dwight Howard from the Magic after you stole Shaq from them before. I will never respect teams like the Lakers

    ***

    AIG = stud blogger. period

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Tony:

    Liverpool? Tough city and tough people. There are no tourist pubs there for sure.

  • hwnrdr

    AIG…yes, forgot about Thailand, and I also have friends there that would make it easier if I went there…
    Rockstar….Gugliotta? Was he the last?
    England…I have family in Scotland too…which is why i want to go there. And funny because if it wasn’t for Facebook…I wouldn’t have known (even though I am part Scotch)…lol

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Hwnrdr:

    You’re part Scottish? I knew there was something familiar about you.
    Just a tip, if you go to Scotland don’t say you’re “Scotch” because the hielanders won’t like it.
    “Scotch” is a drink only-and a damn good one.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the Rockets have Jonny Flynn on the trade block, already?

    go get’em Riley!

  • hwnrdr

    Lol England…yeah I know…my mom would tell me stories about her mom (died before I was born) and how she hated that name for Scottish people. But you’re right…love scotch…funny is her dad was part Irish also…so…

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Scots, wha hae wi’ Wallace bled,
    Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
    Welcome to your gory bed,
    Or to victorie!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I wonder if Miami will be interested in Brad Wanamaker, Diante Garrett, Ben Hansbrough or Demetri McCamey?

    None of those guys got drafted last night … some decent PG’s that could be had on the CHEAP

  • RaiderRockstar

    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?

  • Dakota

    545.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Would eliminate one spot for Nnamdi.

  • hwnrdr

    545.RaiderRockstar Says:
    June 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    the Cardinals could trade cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to the Eagles for quarterback Kevin Kolb when the lockout ends.

    Thoughts?

    Why would they do that? Isn’t he the only corner worthy in AZ? I know they need a qb, but…there’s gotta be someone else…wait…they got rid of everybody…lol

  • Silverandblack666

    RR

    There is a story about that subject in PFT today.

    Kolb for Cromartie trade

  • house fly

    this place really does smell. some good raider talk, like aig, knows his stuff and a few others do to. some in here just plain stink it up. i like it!

  • Silverandblack666

    My thoughts are that if that trade does happen then Nnamdi will be a Cowboy.