Hue really likes Tyvon Branch
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, June 24th, 2011 at 4:54 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s hoping the Raiders open training camp on schedule July 26, because Hue Jackson is giving indications that he may rival former defensive coordinator Rob Ryan when it comes to July-August hyperbole.
Jackson spoke with Murph and Mac Friday on KNBR (the full interview can be accessed on Raiders.com) and didn’t have a lot of new information, which isn’t surprising considering the labor situation.
When asked about the three Raiders who made the Top 100 list as compiled by NFL Network (and voted on by players), Jackson said Darren McFadden, Richard Seymour and Nnamdi Asomugha were all deserving, adding, “I would have guessed the three they picked and I think they left about seven more.”
After Jackson talked about McFadden, Seymour and Asomugha, he was asked to name those who may have been left out.
“There are some players I think this season are going to have breakout seasons. Matt Shaughnessy, who plays defensive end for us, I think is a tremendous player. Tyvon Branch, who people don’t give a lot of credit to, this guy plays football the way it’s supposed to be played,” Jackson said, before kicking it into high gear.
“He plays as well and as hard as anyone I’ve ever seen play the game.”
Roll that one around in your mind for a minute. Tyvon Branch plays as well and as hard as anyone Jackson has ever seen play the game.
Keep in mind he worked in Baltimore, where Ray Lewis plays middle linebacker.
Branch is extremely fast, made a lot of tackles and could indeed be coming into his own as a safety. The interesting thing to see will be if Michael Huff departs in free agency and Branch is moved to free safety with Mike Mitchell moving in at strong safety. As yet, Branch has shown little in the way of ball skills necessary for the position the way it is played in Oakland.
To be fair, he hasn’t been asked to do a lot of read and react stuff as a deep safety.
The Raiders re-signed free safety Hiram Eugene before the lockout began, meaning it’s conceivable he or second-year man Stevie Brown could compete to be the starter should Huff leave.
Jackson, by the way, is optimistic training camp will open on time, can’t talk about Asomugha’s future (although he’d love to have all his free agents back) and when asked about the production of Darius Heyward-Bey, said the entire team needed to pick up its performance but noted, “he is definitely one of the players that needs to step up and bring more to the table . . . I think they all do.”
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June 24th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I like Stevie Brown at Free Safety.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
I have a few Asian associates who shall we say, grew up or has associated with the hip hop generation….
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Oh you mean how White people used to quote that they have a few Black friends to make sure they are legit when it comes to race?
You’re so right. Communication gap is certainly a huge issue. It only comes up when you get caught. Like how you made up that phantom last play by JC in the Jax game….you know the one where you said he threw it to the sideline and it was the WR’s fault for not running out of bounds to kill the clock?
June 24th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
I concur Hue TB is my favorite to play FS for the reasons Hue mentioned I’ve been saying since th end of the year I just don’t think Huff’s coming back due to this kids potential at FS. He’s almost a prototype at that position. Extremely fast, great range, aggressive and he competes. Very confident and a hitter. He has ball skills that have not been exploited due to his playing SS at FS he’ll be able to utilize them.
I said b4 and will say it again MM34 at SS and TB at FS great tandem.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:50 am
And I don’t think contracts should be guaranteed. The contracts should have injury provisions, but if you don’t play, you don’t get paid.
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J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:53 am
I don’t think there should be any restrictions on player movement, and players should be able to negotiate gaurantees, years, salary, etc.
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Communication issues? You mean in one post you dont want guarantees but in the next post guarantee is ok?
June 24th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
BTW, I doubt you were ever a 7 handicap. Single handicap golfers take a lot of pride in their game and would never use game improvement irons like the Slingshots. On top of that, a 7 and 9 wood? I have only seen seniors and women uses a 9 wood. Unless you’re 60, you’re definitely not ever a single handicap buddy. Caught in another lie again. Must be a communication gap.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
you know the one where you said he threw it to the sideline and it was the WR’s fault for not running out of bounds to kill the clock?
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and then I showed you proof and you tried to tell us your browser wont open the video link on nfl dot com…..LMFAO.
Must be another miscommunication….damn.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
LOL …
Where do we start?
I said I WAS a 7 handicap BEFORE kids. Yup communication gap. NOW, I shoot between 81 and 88. I’m 42 years old and past all the bravado stuff trying to hit 3 irons 220yds. For what? Slingshots are my ORIGINAL clubs, lol. What, I was supposed to go out and spend another 800 on blades because I got better? No sir, we leave that kinda foolishness to you Asia studs.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
4.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:50 am
And I don’t think contracts should be guaranteed. The contracts should have injury provisions, but if you don’t play, you don’t get paid.
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J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:53 am
I don’t think there should be any restrictions on player movement, and players should be able to negotiate gaurantees, years, salary, etc.
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Communication issues? You mean in one post you dont want guarantees but in the next post guarantee is ok?
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Yup, communications issues.
My posts earlier where in terms of the NBA lockout. In general, I don’t think sports contract should be guaranteed. But if a player is good enough to NEGOTIATE a guaranteed contract, then that is DIFFERENT than ALL contracts being guaranteed.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
6.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
you know the one where you said he threw it to the sideline and it was the WR’s fault for not running out of bounds to kill the clock?
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and then I showed you proof and you tried to tell us your browser wont open the video link on nfl dot com…..LMFAO.
Must be another miscommunication….damn.
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Yup …
Communication issues.
I’m still trying to figure out what differnce it makes if I watch the play on my DVR instead of an NFL.com link.
Are we watching the same effin play?
WTF!!!!!
I STILL can’t watch videos from NFL.com or the video clips from ESPN on the desktop. It just keeps saying video will start shortly but never does. I’d love for one of you computer geeks to be able to tell me what the problem is. I’ve tried reloading flash player and a few other things but still no luck.
My Ipad works just fine.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Oh you mean how White people used to quote that they have a few Black friends to make sure they are legit when it comes to race?
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LOL!
Uh, no that’s not what I mean.
I mean guys like you who are not traditional Asians. Your try to “be cool” and talk a little slang, lol. Instead of just bring the Asian computer geek you say you’re proud to be.
So because you are trying to be cool, instead of being “yourself”, then you miss some things. Zeva doesn’t understand the inside jokes either.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
And feel free to let me know when you’re in SoCal playing golf, and I’ll have no problem meeting you at the course.
I’m sure $ is no issue for you so, we can meet either at Oak Valley, or the PGA course across the street. You can stash wifey at the Casion near Palm Springs about 20 minutes away.
Or we can just do Palm Springs but we’ll need to get a 5:30 tee time if you don’t want to melt.
Orange county courses are plush too. Strawberry Farms is 150 to play, but it is really nice.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
I have been really hard on huff and branch. i am also in that group that believe that brown and mm34 will be very good safeties in this league. I think no matter wh is on the roster our safeties will be much better this year. The reason is Rod Woodson. Rod woodson was the last great safey to wear silver and black. he knows this defense like the back of his hand having mastered the position under bresnahan.Huff flashed some talent last year, branch has regressed from a solid year previous. If anyone can coax something more out of these two maybe rod can. He will aslo be able to coach up brown and mm34, along with the other youngsters that he helped peg for the draft. Our secondary is stocked with young talent,im betting woodson’s influence on these kids will be huge.
old man Al has done it again. Welcome to Oakland impostor fans, where the legends live!!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
And since we’re making golf observations, I can imagine you’re not very good because of your emotions. You’re so easily rattled after a bad shot, aren’t you? Like you were talking about the wheels coming off and not being able to stop the bleeding?
LOL at your brother being a cheater because he’s sticking greens and you tale 6 to get on.
I find it HILARIOUS that you focus on fairway woods instead of wedges and putter. What do you thinkg I use more? My Vokey wedges and scotty, or my 9 wood?
Do you play, or are just a Ranger Rick type guy?
June 24th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
We should have enough loot to resign Miller and Bush by letting Namndi walk.
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Agreed with Deja Vu!
June 24th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Hue Jax loves Matt Shaughnessy & Tyvon Branch
so do I!
Jhill must be p1ssed. He wanted ShoNasty benched or traded last week and complained about Branch for about 16 games last season
June 24th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Anyway …
Tyvon Branch, huh?
He did play better as the year went on. I thought it was VERY surprising the way he struggled in pass coverage last year. I thought he was EASILY the weak link in the secondary mostly because he was out of position.
I think we can all agree that Branch is going to be starting for us next year. It may be best to put him at FS and take away his agressiveness to the ball in run support. He is a former corner so pass coverage, essentially zone, shouldn’t be a problem.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
So now you want to be my shrink? Here is a hint. I just don’t handle liars well. I’ll call BS when I see it.
BTW, any golfers that can handle paying a Scotty Cameron putter, Vokey Wedges and Callaway clubs will definitely play at the very least Hybrids subbing for a 3 or 4 iron. That’s because you still get some accuracy and ease of getting the ball off the ground. And also because there is this thing called pride. People are very proud of their handicap. I have never seen or heard of even an 80’s shooter using a 9 wood. They are made for women and Seniors. Nice try though.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Tyvon Branch, who people don’t give a lot of credit to, this guy plays football the way it’s supposed to be played.
He plays as well and as hard as anyone I’ve ever seen play the game.
- Hue Jackson
Branch is extremely fast, made a lot of tackles and could indeed be coming into his own as a safety.
- Jerry Mac
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TB gonna put you haters to shame in 2011-2012
Mike Mitchell, too.
June 24th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
No, RRS …
I’m not pissed. I realize I am not the GM and Wimbley will not play DE full time.
I was the first guy here pumping up ShoNasty, so him getting a bigger role is not a problem for me, lol.
Branch, on the other hand, see above.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
We should have enough loot to resign Miller and Bush by letting Namndi walk.
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screw that defense wins championships
June 24th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Branch was a college corner,he played ss because he had to like huff did.like huff I think fs is his natural position,he has the speed to play single deep and mitchell is a natural ss.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
DHB is definitely one of the players that needs to step up and bring more to the table
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Jhill,
Hue Jax trying to light a fire under your boy!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
defense wins championships
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big oak boy,
the Raiders Defense will dominate this season, with or without #21
the offense without Bush & Miller would be HORRIBLE
June 24th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I think Mitchell is great at the line of scrimmage but could use some work in coverage. He’s still young and has room to grow into the position like huff did. Another hard worker and hope he turns out to be another Raider great! I just have to have some patience with these kids and not write them off after a year or 2 in the league. I’m giving DHB 1 more year tho! lol
June 24th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Since I am not a very good golfer. I’ll just take my handicap at 25. Yours will be 15 as you claim. That means I’ll take 1 extra stroke for the ten toughest holes on any course you want to play on. A friendly $10 per hole. What do you say? I can keep this post and hit you up later when I’m in SoCal? Deal?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
And also because there is this thing called pride.
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LOL!
I don’t have that problem. Pride will get you in a lot of bad situations. It is what it is.
I’ve already hooked up with your boy JFB when he was in So Cal. Let me know when you’re in town and we’ll go see who’d BS’ing.
You’re so focused on 2 clubs that MAY get used 3 times per round. LMFAO!
7 Wood = 220 yds
9 wood = 200 yds.
How often do you have that yardage, lol.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Wait are we confirming our handicap and $10 per hole or not?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Since I am not a very good golfer. I’ll just take my handicap at 25.
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LOLOLOLOLOL!
You’re talking shyytttteeeee like that and you want strokes?????
If I’m so full of BS as you say, and I don’t shoot in the 80’s, why do you need strokes?
Just what I thought.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
defense wins championships
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Not if we don’t score any points. Miller is one of JC’s favorite targets, the dude has great hands and knows how to get open. Without Bush, Mcfadden will take a beating. Is Namndi going to put points on the board, win us games? If it takes letting Namndi go to keep Miller and Bush, i’m all for it!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Hill,
You’re so damn afraid to put your money where your mouth is when it comes to handicap now? That’s why they have handicaps in the first place right? If I’m a 25 and you’re a 15, you’re supposed to give me 10 strokes on the 10 toughest holes. Unless you claim you’ve never heard of this. It’s obvious you got caught on a lie again.
Must be miscommunication gap? Damn.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
27.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Wait are we confirming our handicap and $10 per hole or not?
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You want me to give you a stroke on the 10 hardest holes and then play a match play format for $10 a hole?
That’s not a problem at all.
I’m REALLY surprised that you’re talking smack when you suck though. And again, if I’m so full of it, why do you need strokes? You should be able to take your new blades and whoop up on the woman playing with a 9 and 7 wood, right?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Who’s laughing now? oops.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Keeping Nnamdi depends on Nnamdi…………..period
June 24th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
32.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Who’s laughing now? oops.
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Relax dude …
Gimme a minute to catch up to your drivel.
I’m trying to keep my 16 month old and 6 year old entertained while I LMFAO at a 25 handicap running his mouth.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
I was thinking of a different way to take your change though.
How about $25 each for ……
Most GIRs
Most Fairways hit
Fewest Putts
Lowest Score
After the round, I’ll give you a chance to win your chips back on the practice putting greens. We can play 18 holes of “up and down”. Are you familiar with that?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Deja vu Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
defense wins championships
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Not if we don’t score any points. Miller is one of JC’s favorite targets, the dude has great hands and knows how to get open. Without Bush, Mcfadden will take a beating. Is Namndi going to put points on the board, win us games? If it takes letting Namndi go to keep Miller and Bush, i’m all for it!
who will shut down one side of the field with #21 gone
June 24th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Big Al doesn’t operate like most GM’s he’s going to give a player what he thinks he’s worth irregrads to what everyone else thinks. Signing one player has zero to do with signing another. Unless we’re overstocked at s particular position. We could end up with all of them. I know most don’t believe that but it’s true we could re-sign everyone. Or go and pay for someone else they prefer. Everybody thinks signing Routt means Nnamdi is gone, I didn’t believe it then and still don’t it’s all about Nnamdi and big Al agreeing on how much he’s worth……………..period
June 24th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
If I’m a 25 and you’re a 15, you’re supposed to give me 10 strokes on the 10 toughest holes. Unless you claim you’ve never heard of this. It’s obvious you got caught on a lie again.
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Wow.
You’re reaching.
Again, the point is you said I was FOS and don’t shoot in the 80s. Are you now conceding that I am an 80s player? If so, I understand your request for strokes. But if you think I suck like you do, I don’t get why you are asking for strokes?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Nobody is talking shyctt. I’m calling you a liar cuz I know you are.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
give #21 12mill per season for 4 yrs
June 24th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
If you claim to be a 15 handicap, then you shouldnt have any problem accepting that. It’s that simple. It sounds like you’re nervous about having to live up to that 15 handicap. Are we nervous now?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
I’m calling you a liar cuz I know you are.
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So why do you need strokes, lol?
How about my bet, ON TOP of your bet then?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Sorry I suck at golf. I am only familiar with skins. It’s a simple per hole bet. I’m sure you’re quite aware of that. But keep on pretending otherwise though.
Golf is an honorable game. Unless you’re a professional or have the same handicap, you NEVER play straight up. It’s obvious you’re nervous since you’re asking to play straight up with a 25 handicap golfer, when you’re bragging you are shooting between 81-88. Pretty typical weaseling again Hill.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
You can stash wifey at the Casion near Palm Springs about 20 minutes away.
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Why you got to just assume the Asian wants to go gamble??
Low Blow J!!!!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
AIG,
You can talk around it all you want. I ALREADY SAID I’LL PLAY YOU AND GIVE YOU TEN STROKES.
There is A SECOND QUESTION
June 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
I’m pretty happy if I shoot a 97, but I will play just about anyone in skins.
Get me with the flat-stick in the hand, and I have a chance to beat anyone.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
oh btw, didnt you brag you dvr’d and still have the Jax game. Wait, you saw it again recently didnt you? Did JC threw the last play towards the sideline and the WR’s fault for not getting out bounds per your claim? Was that a straight lie or a communication gap again?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Second question SEPERATE FROM THE FIRST ISSUE?
I just want to know why you think I suck at golf, like you, but you want strokes from me?
A) I really don’t think you suck, I’m just talking crap
B) I was just talking smack and I didn’t think you would be down to meet up.
A or B ??????
June 24th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
I like Hue a lot… But you gotta remember homeboy is from LA, which means he’s a street hustler at heart. That’s partially why he keeps calling ole’ Al ‘the Coach’. Part of the hustle baby, you feel me? But overall, Branch was a disappointment last year given the expectations. Let’s see if he comes through this year if there is one.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
I realize Al isn’t afraid to pay these guys but he’s the 1 that mentioned he could pay 2-3 players for same amount as Namndi. So if he goes that route, i’m hoping it’s Bush and Miller. If Al opens up his purse and signs all 3, than even better!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Did JC threw the last play towards the sideline and the WR’s fault for not getting out bounds per your claim?
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I said THAT DAY, after watching the replay that it wasn’t the WRs fault. Initially, I was going off memory and made a mistake. See I can admit that. It’s not that hard to say.
BUT ….
The point all along was it was a sideline pattern to try and get OOB, which it was. You were ranting on about how the pass should have been in the endzone to DHB. I was pointing out that HUE called sideline routes to for Murphy and Ford.
JC threw a bad pass off his back foot, and we lost the game.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Was that a straight lie
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Wow!
Sorry I got you so annoyed by saying Curry sucks, lol!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
AIG,
Can I get a sidebet that my total score will be 88 or better?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
I’m pretty happy if I shoot a 97, but I will play just about anyone in skins.
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Feel free to join us.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
JC has to throw that ball out of bounds and get one more play to THE ACTUAL END ZONE.
Soup gets too damn panicky sometimes, and doesn’t think.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
It wasnt about you sucking at golf. You obviously missed the effin point.
You tried to blame this whole thing between me and you due to a Communication Gap from my English as a Second language. You can insult my grammar or my Asian heritage all you want. You even tried to bring up examples that were BS at best.
For the record.
1. JFB let you off the hook when you were asking if Grad will pull another one again. JFB is a good guy on this board and he obviously let you off the hook. I’m not.
2. You lied about your frickin golf game and I didnt want to say anything then. Nobody plays a 9 wood when they are shooting between 79 to 88. They will play hybrids. That I can guarantee you. I dont even think a Senior with a single handicap will play a 9 wood.
3. You frickin lied about the ending of the Jax game to defend JC. I called your a$$ on it and even provided proof. Your response was your browser can’t open nfl dot com or bspn. But you do claim to have the JAX game on DVR right? Your silence is deafening.
4. I have always thought you were a weasel and called you that on here many times. The fact that you tried to convince a 25 handicap to play a 15 handicap straight up only confirms your status as a weasel.
5. But you can relax. I saw your invite to play golf before on here. I have no intention of spending 5 hours with a weasel like your a$$ on a golf course. What good is it going to do for me? I wanted to make a point and I think it came through pretty good.
I hope my English was good enough for you to understand. Have a good nite.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Neighbor gave me a beer I have never had before: Moose Drool.
Don’t think I’ll ever be bringing these up to the cashier.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
I am only familiar with skins. It’s a simple per hole bet.
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And skins is not a per hole bet. Skins carries holes over. and that has nothing to do with a handicap especially if there are more than 2 players.
You could shoot 8 on 4 holes that the other players are paring. You come along and chip in a shot on that 5th hole and you win all 5 skins. That’s a BS gambling game to me.
My bet with AIG is simply going to be who won the most holes outta 18. No carries!
June 24th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Do you drink AIG?
Or are we playing dry golf?
June 24th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
You could shoot 8 on 4 holes that the other players are paring. You come along and chip in a shot on that 5th hole and you win all 5 skins. That’s a BS gambling game to me.
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That’s the game mayne!!!
Putting for one skin isn’t like putting for 5 skins. It’s all about handling the pressure of the moment.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
5. But you can relax. I saw your invite to play golf before on here. I have no intention of spending 5 hours with a weasel like your a$$ on a golf course. What good is it going to do for me? I wanted to make a point and I think it came through pretty good.
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Yeah, I didn’t think so, lol.
Post 30 and 32 and now YOU are the one who isn’t going to show?
You mean a week or so ago when you said oh yeahm thanks for the invite and asked me if I played in Thousand Oaks?
You mean you were LYING all along?
Classic!
LMFAO!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
1. JFB let you off the hook when you were asking if Grad will pull another one again. JFB is a good guy on this board and he obviously let you off the hook. I’m not.
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You see this JFB?
Thanks for being a good guy and letting me off the hook.
We all know I was a Gardowski fan all along, lol.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Forgot to add that my handicap is actually 18. I used the 25 just to see how you’d react. I think you reacted exactly what I thought you would.
@JFB, yeah we can definitely do alcohol on the course. I’m looking forward to it.
For the rest of other bloggers on here.
Sorry for the back and forth today. Promise to not get sucked into it in the future.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Thanks for being a good guy and letting me off the hook.
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No problem, anytime, lol.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
25.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Since I am not a very good golfer. I’ll just take my handicap at 25. Yours will be 15 as you claim. That means I’ll take 1 extra stroke for the ten toughest holes on any course you want to play on. A friendly $10 per hole. What do you say? I can keep this post and hit you up later when I’m in SoCal? Deal?
30.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Hill,
You’re so damn afraid to put your money where your mouth is when it comes to handicap now? That’s why they have handicaps in the first place right? If I’m a 25 and you’re a 15, you’re supposed to give me 10 strokes on the 10 toughest holes. Unless you claim you’ve never heard of this. It’s obvious you got caught on a lie again.
Must be miscommunication gap? Damn.
32.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Who’s laughing now? oops.
41.aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
If you claim to be a 15 handicap, then you shouldnt have any problem accepting that. It’s that simple. It sounds like you’re nervous about having to live up to that 15 handicap. Are we nervous now?
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After all this …
aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
I have no intention of spending 5 hours with a weasel like your a$$ on a golf course. What good is it going to do for me?
June 24th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Damn, a 6 month hiatus and I come back here to see you guys are still at it.
Cool!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Forgot to add that my handicap is actually 18. I used the 25 just to see how you’d react.
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So you told ANOTHER lie?
LMFAO!
And I accepted your bet, said I’d meet you anywhere to play, and now you’re looking in the mirror at yourself flexing your chest muscles claiming “I reacted the way you thought I would?”
WTF does that mean?
You knew I’d accept your bet? You knew I’d back up mine?
Here’s that communication gap again.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
LMFAO
I just can’t get past you LYING to make a case that I am a liar.
Too funny!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
If there are ANY of you that happen to be in So Cal and wanna hit the links, let me know.
Then you can come in here and post to AIG how I shot in the 80s with a 7 and 9 wood in my bag, lol.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Sorry for the back and forth today. Promise to not get sucked into it in the future.
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Dude, you’d argue with a sign post, all day long.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Do either of you have a GHIN handicap??
Somebody in here is sandbagging their ass off!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
we can not spend to much money we will have to sign mcfadden next year,and if we make the playoffs we will have to sign campbell.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
For the record.
1. JFB let you off the hook when you were asking if Grad will pull another one again. JFB is a good guy on this board and he obviously let you off the hook. I’m not.
2. You lied about your frickin golf game and I didnt want to say anything then. Nobody plays a 9 wood when they are shooting between 79 to 88. They will play hybrids. That I can guarantee you. I dont even think a Senior with a single handicap will play a 9 wood.
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1) You jumped into a conversation between JFB and I. JFB told you what I was saying, you still didn’t believe it because you were such a Grads supporter, lol. Best QB on the roster you were telling us.
2) Actaully you lied about your golf game, got called on your bet and, uh weaseled (as you call it) your way out of a round. And my rounds usually take 4 hours, not 5. On the course by 6 am, home by 10:30. You know that’s what happens when you don’t have to take an additioanl 20 strokes or so.
3) Still don’t get your point about if I watch the replay on DVR or your link. Communication gap. Again, if we are both watching THE PLAY, what difference does it make? What silence?
4) You’re lying again. I accepted your match play bet from the get go. The fact that I wanted clarification on how you could say I’m lying about shooting in the 80s while at the same time asking for strokes was puzzling to me. Just didn’t make sense. Communication gap.
And this whole “thing” between us stems from your “issues” with black fans “supporting” JC. You said we just keep making excuses for him. And it is SO CLEAR that you get annoyed at us. You only go at it like this with me, Armond, B, and Priest. And it ALWAYS ties back to JC or Russell.
Too funny!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Sorry for the back and forth today. Promise to not get sucked into it in the future.
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LOL at you characterizing this as you getting sucked in.
You got mad, err annoyed because someone disagreed with you about Curry. It’s as simple as that.
YOU set up this elaborate lie about your golf game and YOU got sucked in?
You are HILARIOUS mayne.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I love the Hujuack enthusiasm you really get the feeling he knows something no one else does when you listen to him talk about this team. It’s as if he’s saying “just wait til they get a load of us”. When I think of the speed we have I have that same feeling. It’s like opportunity meets a prepared mind. This team is well suited for a guy with a plan and the ability to execute that plan.
Hues Game is utilizing talent to the best way possible. IOW he doesn’t have a system as much as he has phylosophy and he has the tools the biult a system around talent. That system has some basic beliefs and principles but it’s fluid enough to fit and mold to the talent available. There is just something about Hue that strikes me as if he’s saying “these guys aren’t gonna know what hit ‘em”.
I can’t wait to see what we ultimately look like I’m watching the home game vs KC and when this team is on a roll it’s just downright scary to watch they have so much raw talent. You can tell when they’re pumped and ready to play they flat get after you. I’m talking about the defense in the second half they terrorized KC. Those black uni’s in the blackhole is just ‘nothing else on earth like it’.
Damn y’all I’m ready for some damn Raider football…………..NOW!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Jhill so you noticed that tooo about AIG…..lol
It’s true!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Of course it’s true Priest.
I was going back and forth with several Grads fans. Off the top of my head JFB and Big Banana were always on me. Then here comes this AIG character who I had NEVER engaged with that I could remember.
I’ll never forget our first series of exchanges when he went to the weasel card b/c I said during the game that “Grads would add to his legend” and then after the game “switched up and started killing him”.
That’s when I realized there was a communication gap and tried to explain the sarcasm. Even JFB tried to tell him the same thing, but he went on this you people support a black QB rant, lol.
It’s been on since then.
Doesn’t help that I smack him around all the time, like today, lol! That really gets his blood boiling.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
And let’s not forget the House N—a comment, lol.
This from an Asian guy, who tries to talk slang, and wants his Italian blog friend to hook him up with black strippers.
What would the traditional Asians call him, lol?
June 24th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Yeah he did the same thing with me……..he’s the one who said black QB’s just can’t make it the NFL. Then starti=ed talking about how many have already failed as proof………lol
June 24th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Do either of you have a GHIN handicap??
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I have belonged to a golf club in 4 or 5 years.
That’s why I just say I shoot in the 80’s and USED to be a 7 handicap.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Yeah he went on a crazy tirade last year about JC being a FRAUD and he would absolutely prove it to everyone and no one would ever want him as a our QB again……just a lot of bullcrap and went on and on and on……….dude has some serious color issues……..period
June 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Anyway we only have about a onth left for football camps start opening. Can’t wait.
June 24th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Glad I’m not into golf.
Honestly, where I came from in Brooklyn, no one was into golf.
No one even considered participating in a sport which required buying expensive clubs and paying green fees.
Did play miniature golf a few times. Even bashed a few buckets at a driving range. Once had what appeared to be a really serious golfer hitting some balls at a range next to me. Dude is really into setting his feet just right, perfecting his grip, micro-analyzing his swing. So I place my ball on the Tee, take a 3 step running start, swing the club like it’s a baseball bat, and drive one deep and straight as an arrow.
That’s my golf highlight.
Wouldn’t even consider tennis. Had to buy a racket and then pay to use a court.
Nope, the real sports, and the only ones that mattered were hoops, football and sometimes softball.
Not talking about organized stuff either. Forget about leagues.
3 on 3 halfcourt hoops. Full court once in a while.
Football was 2 hand touch. No helmets or pads. Tackle on concrete, but only when it snowed.
Now that I’m in my twilight years, I still have no interest in golf or tennis or even bowling.
Wish I would have been more interested in golf. Might not have jello, instead of a left knee and right ankle.
Now, can we get back to some constructive football takes ?
Like…
JaJason sucks !
June 24th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Now, can we get back to some constructive football takes ?
Like…
JaJason sucks !
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Define sucks?
= not a top 10 QB in the league?
June 24th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Just checking in…is the Old Creeper still alive and kicking? Still choking the life out of the very thing he loves? Anybody get a pulse lately?
June 24th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Tj post #75 was on point!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Operating from the stanpoint that I don’t see anyone better coming to Oakland anytime soon, I think we can win the division with JC at QB.
Like any QB who faces constant pressure, I don’t expect him to look like a QB who has time to throw and a couple of decent WRs.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
You dudes are dreaming. Put up or shut up: what’s your prediction? Two more SBs for the Old Creeper beginning this year?
June 24th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
He calls him JaJason because he thinks that way he’s getting his point across. Problem is he looks even more silly as time goes by and it’ll get worse when the season starts and that kid is throwing up W’s.
You can’t take that guy seriously just read his bonehead post about Bruce Gradkowski. He actually thinks Bruce is some helluva talent. So consider the source.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Interesting trade rumor from espn, perhaps Philly won’t be breaking the bank for Namndi.
Philly looking to trade Kolb for Arizona’s Rodgers-Cromartie.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
What makes you think we have to make predictions? what is it with you guys talking SB’s, who makes SB predictions???? that’s just talk aimless pointless talk.
I like what I see as a Raider predicting a SB is ridiculous bravado.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
No, JHill, not being in the top 10 doesn’t exactly qualify as ’sucking’.
But I’d say being in the bottom 10 does.
I have a very hard time thinking of 10 QBs that I think JaJason is better than.
I’d have to go team by team to come up with an exact number of QBs I’d take JaJason over…but my initial guess is I wouldn’t come up with more than 10.
I’d be happy to go thru each division with you and rank JaJason vs. the respective starting QBs for each team.
Would be interestinng to hear your opinion and others on this board.
Feel free to pick a division.
I’ll start with the AFC West since that’s who we play most.
KC…I’d take Cassell over JaJason. Don’t think much of Cassell, but I’d give him a slight edge over JC.
Denver…Orton and JC is a tough call, also close…but again, give slight edge to Orton.
SD…Rivers, easily.
Of course, that’s just my opinion, and I admit some of these calls are close…but in the AFC West, I don’t rank JaJason ahead of any of the other starters.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Anybody who thinks Grads is a great QB, has trouble thinking ………..period
June 24th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Is hue Jackson Rex Ryan lite?
June 24th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Jhill watching this KC game in the 2nd half I see why they gave Routt the money he just took Dbowe out of the game. You can see why he got it I’ve never noticed him being this boisterous before.
He is literally in Bowe’s face talking smack in the 2nd half. It kept us in the game. Because Cassel kept throwing at Bowe we had the game until that little kid fumbled the KR. We were outplaying them until then they got a cheap score.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
NFC East
Eagles: Edge to Vick.
Giants: Edge to Manning.
Skins: Would give edge to McNabb, but he ain’t the start anymore…Would take JC over Grossman.
Pick a division.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Bush is our now #1 concern about resigning. Miller is #2. DMac alone is not enough to go to the bank with. We need both Bush & TJones to make sure we have the high powered running game we need to be successful. I don’t want to lose Miller but between the 2, I’ll pick Bush. If we lose Miller, we can always move Reece, if necessary from FB to TE. we also drafted a Te so who know how god he may be. Ideally, AD resigns both Miller & Bush. If so, we should be good to go.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
I just watched the kc game too. the thing with Rout is he may not give up a catch but he gets a pi at least once a game it seems.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Now I see why MM34 was so furious at Routt on the Bowe TD because until then Routt had shut Bowe down. Routt is legit…………period
I would say Hue was a Rex Ryan yet I compar ehim to Jon Gruden more.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
ooops forgot the Cowgirls…I’d take Romo over JC.
So far I’ve got JC better than Grossman only.
Feel free to choose a division and we can share notes.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Raider Guy that goes with the uniform, Revis does the same stuff Routt and Nnamdi does and he never gets called for it.
Campbell played some damn good football in that 2nd half nice crisp passes and very accurate.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Look we don’t need jc to pro bowl calliber to win in big games
just manage the game.
Jfb posted that brad johnson stat on the other thread.
22TD 6int pro bowl appearance.
If JC gives us play like the. That’s good enough.
That’s about 1-2 td per game. That’s average. The running game an defense should take care of the rest.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
What a surprise Raiderman99 doesn’t think JC is any good Uh! I’m shocked!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Rivers, JC, Orton, Cassell
NFC West = Smith, Hasselbeck, Bradford, And Az’s QB.
Bradford, Hasselbeck (if healthy!), JC, Smith, Azs QB.
We’re through 2 divisions and there are only 3 QBs I’d take over Glo.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Jhill watching this KC game in the 2nd half I see why they gave Routt the money he just took Dbowe out of the game.
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That was the game Nnamdi didn’t play in. Funny how they used Routt in that game like everyone asks Nnamdi to be used. Routt wasn’t just stuck on one side, if I recall correctly.
And it is like Routt said, he always got the best WR on his side as OCs wouldn’t want them lined up against Nnamdi and could easily identify where Nnamdi would be.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
raiderman should check out last year in sd, in kc, in den. JC is the man and I think he is a lot better than a lot of people, raider fans included, think. I have been pretty surprised by his play watching last years games
June 24th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
more, he out performs rivers in sd by a mile
June 24th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
AFC EAST
JC might pick up a few notches here.
Pats: Brady.
Jets: Sanchez, think he’s a scrub. Might give JC the nod, it’s close, but Sanchez could improve.
Jills: Edge JC, by default.
Fins: Actually like Henne more than JC but won’t argue too hard if you give edge to JC.
So after 3 divisions I’ve got JC better than 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 starting QBs….trying to get to 10.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Jhill JC is in the top half of this league as far as I’ve seen and he could go higher based on this year. Cassel is average nobody in a SF uni comes close to me. I wouldn’t touch Hasselback and I’m not crazy about Eli Manning eventhough he won a SB he fla sucked most of that season. The fans in NY were calling for his head. There are some locks in this league as afar as better players like Mannning Brady Brees and those calibre. But when you talk the kid in Cleveland or Denver or even Flacco if I had the choice I’m not sure I take Flacco over JC, because I’m not a Flacco fan.
But there are the obvious ones and then it’s a matter of personal chhoice. Like I said he’s in the argment of at least the top 20 at worse.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
96.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
NFC East
Eagles: Edge to Vick.
Giants: Edge to Manning.
Skins: Would give edge to McNabb, but he ain’t the start anymore…Would take JC over Grossman.
Pick a division.
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Vick, Manning, JC/Romo, McNabb.
Romo and JC are the same middle of the pack QBs, imo.
Indy Houston Jags, I forget the 4th team right now.
Manning, Cassell, JC, Garrard
June 24th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Raider Guy, love your enthusiasm, but if you honestly believe JC is better than Rivers, you’re nuts.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Jhill in tha game I saw a topflight cover corner now he didn’t perform to that level every game but he did in more than a few. He just blanketed Bowe………..period
June 24th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
He didn’t say he was better he said he outperformed (JC over Rivers) him and he did………..twice last year.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
JC top half of the league???
Is he even going to outperform Tebow on opening night?
Let’s start with him being better than Tebow and take it from there.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
JC vs NFC West.
Seachicks: Washed up Hassleback still at least the equal of JC.
Rams: Bradford.
AZ: JC.
Whiners: JC but not by much. Smith stinks, both of them. JC gets my vote but closer than you think.
Might be able to make it to 10.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Jhill I aggre 100% post #110
June 24th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I don’t think Hassellback is the equal of JC at all. He can play well at times but he normally stinks. Hassellback is incapable of putting together a season of competent play.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
JFB we will see………..just what kind of QB Tebow really is.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Indy Houston Jags, I forget the 4th team right now.
Manning, Cassell, JC, Garrard
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JHILL, Know you meant Schaub, not Cassell.
I’d take Garrard over JC, though.
Struggling to get to 10.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Might be easier to look at it this way.
Name some teams that JC would probably start for.
Buff, Az, Carolina, Minn, SF, come to mind immediately.
Even those aren’t definites.
Sure there are some others.
Still, no matter how you frame it, JC is AT BEST mediocre when viewed from the perspective of which starting QBs he’s better than.
My opinion is that he’s in the bottom third of NFL starters and maybe lower.
I think that opinion will be borne out this season.
Hope I’m wrong.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Right, Shaub, not Cassell.
Pitts Balt Cleve Cincy
Big Ben, JC, Flacco, Palmer, McCoy. Flacco would have been worse than JC last year had they switched supporting casts, imo.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
I’m watching the last drive in regulation in the KC game JC is just lights out sharp. The trow that everyone criticises him for. He made a helluva play just to get the ball off. He was under a heavy rush by both DE’s stepped up and threw a cqtchable pass to Ford. But b4 that throw he threw a ’stick throw’ to Ford but holding on Veldheers forced the pass to Ford which he threw on the move with a guy in his face. JC made at least 4 stick throws on that drive alone or else we lose that game. That drive was his bets of the season IMO. Great DRIVE!!
June 24th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Disagree on Flacco. Would give him the edge over JC.
Palmer is likely done. McCoy is an unknown quantity in my book at this point. Would have given him no shot to succeed in the NFL, actually shocked by how much poise he displayed. No longer write him off, liked what I saw of him vs. the Jets.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Everybody wants to say negative stuff abiut JC but the pass in OT was perfect had Ford not been interferred with he catches that in stride for a score. That pass was perfect.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
He threw the ball with great touch on it right out in front of Ford but the DB grabbed him at the hip just enough to make the catch difficult. Perfect pass.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Hasselbeck has been around 12 yrs and JC 6, but the comparisons of career percentages is awfully similar in most catagories, however Hasselbeck does have the advantage of a better career w/l on the + whereas JC is on the – side. Matt may pretty much be done so lets see where JC stands in 6 years, but campare the two and they are very very similar. Hasselbeck has been fierce over the years, but can stink it up at times, JC hasn’t shown much yet, but give him a good ground game this year and we’ll see what he can do with it.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
JC is a pro and we here in Raider Nation expect him to play like one. The great plays against KC and SD were nice, but lets have a good year this season so we can get past the SF game and a few others.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
JC’s best throw in the KC game came on the 4th down completion BEFORE the Ford miracle.
He threw an absolute laser into a tight window.
Had the Raids+1 that day and was ready to rip up my ticket.
Still can’t believe I cashed that baby.
JC absolutely sucked that entire game, right up til the final moments and OT.
Even with the heroics, I still don’t consider that a good game from JC.
Thought his best game was in relief against SD. He didn’t do that much with his arm, but those 2 long drives impressed me.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I just watched the game, he played well the entire 2nd half and was great when he had to be. Truth!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
That is what will make or break JC, and the Raiders for that matter, this year. Can JC bring his A game with the help on the o-line and the entire squad this year, game after game. No more SF like performances and the other disasters, no more waiting around til the final drives and OT. Dominate. Clock control. Special teams.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Talking about golf…..I’m going to hit the course over in Tujunga (Verdugo Hills) 3-par 18 hole!
Who wants some…lol!
June 24th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
If Coach Davis doesn’t see the need or any other reason to keep Nnamdi, which would be a horrible mistake IMO, look for him to go to the Jets or the Packers.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Everybody has some stinkers during a long year this is the NFL. No one is lights out every game. What we need from JC is a level of competence that gives us a chance to win…………period
I expect a professional effort game in game out. I think we’ll get it……….just win baby!!!
June 24th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
One final thought about the topic of Jerry’s post, Tyvon Branch.
I really thought Branch was on the rise at the end of 2009.
Like most, I thought he regressed somewhat in 2010 and was somewhat disappointed.
I attribute this to Branch bulking up too much.
When Ty first came to the Raids he was noticeably thinner.
Check out video of him waiting to return punts with a cast on his arm as a rookie. He was very lean. Had a thin midsection.
Ty must have worked very hard and bulked up to improve his hitting power and durability.
I think that worked. Branch is a ferocious hitter and hasn’t missed significant time due to injury.
However, I believe the added bulk has come at the expense of his cover ability. Easy to forget he was once a corner, watching him last year.
Could be his body type just changed with age and maturation, but I think he needs to lose a little bulk, and can easily do that with a different training regiment.
I agree with Hue. I’m still very high on Branch.
Later, Gentlemen. You too, Priestt.
June 24th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Later Raiderman99
June 25th, 2011 at 4:48 am
Aso is overrated and overpriced.
And get rid of D.H. Bust. Huge mistake drafting him. There is a difference between straight ahead speed and lateral quickness, Mr. Davis. Quickness is more important.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:47 am
i think being a pro or not confidence plays a bigger role in performance than we think.if you go in thinking your gonna get killed your pretty much done.that goes for all positions.and it shows when you believe in yourself,its called swagger when it works.all the greats have it .i also think that is what hue is trying to do with branch .and the 2 or 3 player thing with 21 ,i dont know hard to tell what mr.davis was doing .if 21 played for someone else and became a free agent would mr.davis get out the check book to pick him up ?,like he has other free agents in the past.maybe theres a marcus allen type wedge we dont know about.hate to see that tho
June 25th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Kirk Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 4:48 am
Aso is overrated and overpriced.
And get rid of D.H. Bust. Huge mistake drafting him. There is a difference between straight ahead speed and lateral quickness, Mr. Davis. Quickness is more important.
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i agree dhb has started enough its time to sheet or get off the pot,check tim brown stats the first 4 years,they look pretty much the same,not very good(i know tims injury)but still very close.but you could tell tim was going to be great from day one ,clear as day.but i was shocked at how close the numbers are
June 25th, 2011 at 8:01 am
I think Aso stays as well, and maybe just maybe, plays FS. That would give us our Ed Reed/ Rod Woodson. Would also would love to see more nickel packages on D, get our best athaletes on the field. Way more confusion can be caused from this package than any 3-4. Also hope DVD can step in and play right away.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Raiderfankirk Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:01 am
I think Aso stays as well, and maybe just maybe, plays FS. That would give us our Ed Reed/ Rod Woodson. Would also would love to see more nickel packages on D, get our best athaletes on the field. Way more confusion can be caused from this package than any 3-4. Also hope DVD can step in and play right away.
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Seriously? lol.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden hoped to get a shot in the NFL. He never expected his first should would come as an offensive coordinator.
“I originally thought that from my background I would have to come in [to the NFL] as a position coach,” Jon’s younger brother told Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com. Jay Gruden previously served as a head coach in the UFL and Arena Football League. “I’m confident that I’m ready, but I didn’t think anybody else thought that.”
As a result, Gruden was “absolutely kind of surprised” that his chance came not as, say, a quarterbacks coach but as the architect of the offense. The fact that he was hired by a head coach with a defensive background gives Gruden even greater responsibilities.
“From the time the season was over, I talked to different coaches and spent time thinking about what direction it was best to go offensively,” coach Marvin Lewis told Marvez. “Jay’s name kept coming up.”
Still, production could continue to go down, at least in the short term. Quarterback Carson Palmer wants out, and Gruden believes Palmer won’t be showing up.
“I haven’t talked to Carson yet,” Gruden said. “Based on everything I’ve read and heard, he’s not coming back. If he has a change of heart, we’d love to have him. If not, we just have to get somebody ready to go.”
If they can’t, Lewis eventually could go. And Gruden likely would end up going, too.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:58 am
While it took Tim Brown a few years to become TIM BROWN, he did catch 5 TD’s his rookie year and also rushed for one TD and had a KO return TD as well and made the Pro Bowl as a returner, while only starting a few games.
DHB has started almost every game he has played in, and has produced a whole two garbage-time TD’s in two years.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Prior to the draft, Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon complained that criticism of Cam Newton was based on his race. Since Moon was acting as an advisor to Newton and given that Newton said nothing to contradict Moon’s comments, some assumed that Moon was saying what Newton was thinking.
If that’s what Newton was thinking, it’s not what he’s saying.
“Sir, it all comes down to whether a person wins or loses,” Newton told Andrew Corsello of GQ, via NFL.com. “I don’t bring race into the game, ’cause then you’re talking about excuses. I. Hate. Excuses. Excuses are a disease.”
It’s a refreshing attitude. Coupled with the manner in which Newton has been putting in the hours during the lockout, we’re starting to think that Newton will be everything that the Panthers hope he’ll be.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/24/cam-newton-wont-bring-race-into-the-game/
June 25th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Good to see that Newton has more perspective than his “mentor”.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:07 am
His “mentor” is wise to the game.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am
His “mentor” is grasping at straws to remain relevant.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Hall of Famers are always relevant.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Hall of Famers are always relevant.
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Like Al Davis??
June 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Don’t mean to slash and dash on you KK, but off to get some stuff done.
You can stew on that last one.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Alrighty then.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
131.From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Talking about golf…..I’m going to hit the course over in Tujunga (Verdugo Hills) 3-par 18 hole!
Who wants some…lol!
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Executive course?????
What about Balboa, Griffith Park, or Brookside?
June 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am
KoolKell Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Prior to the draft, Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon complained that criticism of Cam Newton was based on his race. Since Moon was acting as an advisor to Newton and given that Newton said nothing to contradict Moon’s comments, some assumed that Moon was saying what Newton was thinking.
If that’s what Newton was thinking, it’s not what he’s saying.
“Sir, it all comes down to whether a person wins or loses,” Newton told Andrew Corsello of GQ, via NFL.com. “I don’t bring race into the game, ’cause then you’re talking about excuses. I. Hate. Excuses. Excuses are a disease.”
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That’s what happens when you let other people speak for you.
Newton sounds a lot more mature than I thought he was.
“Excuses are a disease”. Like that.
Seems like Al had that disease with Russell.
June 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
HUFF’S NOT TUFF!!! I SAY WE WASTED A YEAR IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF TYVON BRANCH AND MIKE MITCHELL. TO ME THERE ARE 3 PLAYERS THAT IF THEY TOUCHED YOU YOU GO DOWN HARD THATS MCCLAIN BRANCH AND MITCHELL. WE SHOULD HAVE TRADED HUFF FOR ANOTHER THIRD OR FOURTH ROUNDER. YEAH HIS STATS WERE MUCH IMPROVED LAST YEAR BUT A LOT OF THOSE PICKS WERE BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT PRESSURE WE HAD ON QB’S. 2 OF THEM WERE THROWN RIGHT TO HIM. HIS SACKS WERE GOOD TO BUT I THINK MITCHELL IS JUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER AT BLITZING. WE SHOULD RUN WITH THESE YOUNG SAFTIES HUFF HAS DONE NOTHING IN MU MIND TO GET A BIG CONTRACT FROM US IN FACT IN THE LITTLE TIME HE HAS PLAYED I’LL TAKE STEVIE BROWN. AND HUFF STILL CANT TACKLE. JUST ASK ARIAN FOSTER. 70 YARDS LATER DIFFERENCE IN THE HOUSTON GAME IN MY OPINION.
June 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
AND IM NOT JUST GONNA BAG ON HUFF BECAUSE HE DID IMPROVE VERY MUCH SO BUT HE AINT THAT MUCH BETTER THAN WHO WE HAVE NOW HE WOULD BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER TEAM BUT NOT THE RAIDERS. AND TO SUM IT ALL UP BRANCH AND MITHCELL TWO YOUNG HARD HITTING SAFTIES THAT WORK HARD AND PLAY HARD I LOVE EM PLAY AND REAP THE BENEFITS!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
PLAY THEM AND REAP THE BENEFITS!!!!
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MY BAD
June 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
HADNT HAD MY COFFEE YET SO MY SPELLING IS A LITTLE OFF EARLIER
June 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
WE SHOULD HAVE TRADED HUFF FOR ANOTHER THIRD OR FOURTH ROUNDER
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Under the previous CBA rules, if we lose Huff via FA we will get some type of compensatory picks.
Probably a 4th or 5th rounder (at the end of the round), but I will take it.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
OK WELL THEN IM HAPPY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE HUFF IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT. 7TH OVERALL PICK AND I THINK BRANCH IS EVERY BIT THE PLAYER HUFF JUST NOT AS GOOD BALL SKILLS
June 25th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Well this the biggest joke ive had since lock-out,i geuss u guys seen it
The teams that will be in the best position to land the top spot or trade up for it would be towards the top. Here’s my projected top 10 draft order for next year:
1. Oakland, projected record: 4-12
2. Cincinnati, projected record: 4-12
3. Buffalo, projected record: 6-10
4. Cleveland, projected record: 6-10
5. Denver, projected record: 6-10
6. Arizona, projected record: 6-10
7. Carolina, projected record: 6-10
8. Seattle, projected record: 6-10
9. Tennessee, projected record: 7-9
10. Kansas City, projected record: 7-9
LMFAO!!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
zzzzzzzzz
June 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
violent who thinks the raiders will be 4-12 next year?
June 25th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
well i think we could go 10-6 and win the west
June 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
By Bill WilliamsonOn one hand, Oakland Raiders’ owner Al Davis deserves credit for being proactive prior to the lockout and signing several players to extensions.
However, there were built-in risks. Davis committed a load of money to 2011 without knowing the salary-cap rules.
That’s why ESPN’s John Clayton ranked the Raiders as one of the teams in the worst position heading into free agency. Clayton ranked the Raiders third on his list as being in a bad spot prior to the start of free agency as far as the salary cap goes.
Here is Clayton’s reasoning: Davis was aggressive in re-signing eight players for contracts totaling $85.48 million. But if the cap is at $120 million, the Raiders may have issues. If new cap rules exclude some $26 million in “dead” money for players whose contracts were voided to make them free agents this year that would help. If accounting rules include the “dead” money, the Raiders would be $14.78 million over the cap and would have to cut some players. Their payroll of $103.2 million isn’t out of line, but the “dead” money issue could cause them problems if it isn’t cleared up.
Again, the Raiders were in a tough spot. They had a ton of free agents and they secured the likes of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and John Henderson, among others. But it may be difficult to keep free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Michael Huff and Michael Bush as a result. It could also be difficult for Oakland to add outside free agents.
The Raiders knew they were taking a risk extending the players they did prior to the lockout. But teams can’t keep everyone and the Raiders made their decisions on their priority free agents. So, as a result, the Raiders’ offseason movement period may be complete for the most part because of the possible salary-cap realities.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
So, as a result, the Raiders’ offseason movement period may be complete for the most part because of the possible salary-cap realities.
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Move Reece to TE, Bush didn’t get many carries anyway, Stevie Brown has been playing FS for us since at least the Miami game, and we’ve already drafted Nnamdi’s replacement, lol.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Of all the contracts we got signed prior to the lockout, the Wimbley one irks me the most.
He was good, not great, and we are paying him as if he is the greatest.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Ayee Bloggers, Long time reader first time poster. I AM PUMPED FOR THIS SEASON (IF THERE IS ONE) BUT I WOULD LIKE BRANCH TO PLND HAVE MIKE Mitchell at SS. HUFF WILL PROBABLY GO TO THE TEXANS IMO. BUT I REALLY HOPE AL OPEN UP HIS CHECK BOOK FOR BUSH, MILLER, AND EVEN ASO. I REALLY DO HOPE ASO WANT TO COME BACK TO OAKLAND. IF OUR SECONDARY HAVE ASO AND ROUTT AT CB WITH OUR ROOKS ALT. AND HAVE BRANCH AT FS AND MITCHELL AT SS THEN OUR SECONDARY WILL BR HANDS DOWN THE BEST IN THE NFL IMO.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
we really only need three offensive lineman and were straight 2 og/ and a center maybe a vet tackle too so four. think we could afford that
June 25th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
And for all those people that come on here and whine, “What to YOU care about how much they make, it’s not your money”.
This is why we care!!!!! We might be hindered on getting some quality vet talent for the right side of the line or at OLB, because Al felt the need to overpay Routt and Wimbley to such extreme lengths.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
i think wimbley got to much too but he did get ten sacks maybe he can get even more this year!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
http://www.raidersgab.com/2011/06/25/will-the-raiders-be-pressing-their-luck-in-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RaidersGab+%28Raiders+Gab%29
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Meeze Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
violent who thinks the raiders will be 4-12 next year?
June 25th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Plunk and Flores in Reno to play in a golf tourn.
Plunkett was in VIP lounge last night at the Atlantis. Jim took off one of his SB rings and was showing it off. Buddy of mine said it weighed a ton and was gorgeous.
June 25th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
http://www.raidersgab.com/2011/06/25/will-the-raiders-be-pressing-their-luck-in-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+RaidersGab+%28Raiders+Gab%29
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there full of s@#$%^&*?t!!! we will go 10-6 sandy gayho will not win the division next year. lol based on what? rivers? softyeigo hahahahahahah there little b@#$%^&*s!!
June 25th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
out yasll off work now hahah
June 25th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
AIG….you dont know a damn thing. Tellin me not talk about politics? You dont even know the basics of most things I suggest you stick to body building and roids so you can overcompensate for your other shortcomings
June 25th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
AIG….you said most of the founding fathers were pagan? John Adams and company were? You cant be serious man lol! Its obvious you dont know what the fauk youre talking about! I dont even wanna pull up quotes from those old guys. I dont like to post links cuz it kills ppl with ease. Not challenging enough for me. See what I did to Kell the other day?
June 25th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
JFB,
Caught over a barrell with the Wimbley thing. He got that $ because of what he did as a pass rusher, like we were discussing the other day.
If we are going to pay him like that, he needs to play in a role that has him ALWAYS attacking the LOS, and never going out in pass coverage unless it’s some type of zone blitz.
Having him in man to man coverage? Then I share your concern.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
While I don’t think our squad will go 4-12 next year, there is some precedence there.
In 2008, Soup threw for 13 TD’s and 6 INT’s and had a 84.3 QB rating while his team went 8-8.
The next year they went 4-12.
In 2010, Soup had almost identical stats. 13 TD’s, 8 INT’s and a 84.5 QB rating.
Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
AIG how in the world do you get taxes for roads and buildings confused with taxing a person’s income? Do you not get that’s unconstitutional? And you obviously were off about this not being viewed as a Christian nation. And you lame crybaby shhht about swearing on bible is due to hardcore Christian activists HIGHLIGHTS my point about the CHRISTIAN NATION thing
June 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
J,
The issue with Wimbley as a DE is that we have Shonasty and Houtson out there, and they are definately better 3 down DE’s than Wimbley.
So we have a situational pass-rusher making $10 million for a year, playing out of position at OLB and a major liability in coverage (which most OLB’s are truthfully).
June 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
AIG you try to argue your points and think you “poke” holes in people’s theories but in essence you dont and never will. You remind me of the lame kid in school that laughed at his own jokes that no one found funny
June 25th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
You blatantly lied saying Murphy aint too cool with Campbell….but yet those two are closest on team. Now you lying about Income Tax and what have you and the founding fathers thing
June 25th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
JFB,
Do you think our WRs will be able to get open vs the one on one coverage they will see?
I know you think our Oline is going to be a disaster in pass protection.
I’m just wondering what I should be looking for from JC?
Should we expect him to perform in spite of the questions on the Oline and at WR?
What does “perform” mean to you?
June 25th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
You remind me of the lame kid in school that laughed at his own jokes that no one found funny
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Exactly.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
And on JC thing youre losing so bad its funny. 7 wins verse 5 losses. Spare me your crybaby excuses about the dline or wr made miracle plays. JC got it done. Our offense was 10th with him at qb and scored alot of points. What about that are you missing? Oh wait the sf tenn stl and pitt games are your argument lol. How did JC PLAY THE NEXT TIME AFTER THOSE BAD GAMES?
June 25th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
The issue with Wimbley as a DE is that we have Shonasty and Houtson out there, and they are definately better 3 down DE’s than Wimbley.
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I don’t disagree with that.
But the fact remains that Wimbley was paid for his work as a DE.
I think the simple solution is to find a way to have Wimbley rush the passer from his LB position. Move him around from side, but always have him attacking the backfield.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Maybe only STL game where he was still stinkin it up but we were only down 7-3….hue made a quick move and he should have but as I showed about the 93 example that all you JC HATERS are still mute on you dont bench a guy after one lucky half. We paid for it the next 2 games for it too. Lead at half vs Cards….we score 3 pts in second half. We are tied at home at half vs Texans we score ten in 2nd half. Both losses and grad has 4 turnovers
June 25th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What does “perform” mean to you?
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At least 2 to 1 TD:turnover ratio, a couple clutch game-winning performances, continue the dominance over the division and win at least 9 games.
Anything less, and ship his azz out of town for 2012.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
As I kept saying…u have an agenda. You want JC to fail more than him succeeding so you can be seen as right. Youre selfish and want AIG to win not the Raiders
June 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Do you think our WRs will be able to get open vs the one on one coverage they will see?
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WR may still be an issue at times, but our TE/RB receiving combo is amongst the best in the world, which helps offset that.
But yeah, WR and pass protection will struggle, but Soup isn’t the only QB that has to deal with poor pass-protection at times and WR’s dropping passes.
That’s when he has to emerge as a leader, because that’s what leaders do. It’s easy to lead when things are going well, it is much harder to do when things aren’t going so hot.
It is a lot to ask, but that is life as an NFL QB.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Vegas…..2008 year much different than 2010 for JC….do I have to even point out why?
June 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
VEGAS…..both SD games JC was clutch and KC game he was as well. Now its time to build on that
June 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Al dont pay nnamdi schit. Time to move on
June 25th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Shonasty is cool and all but id rather have a premier RDE like Osi….who needs Nnamdi if you got a ferocious pass rush?
June 25th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
JC is cool as qb….but if we want max out of this situation you gotta get him a good vet on the oline and at wr. Have to get a guard and Im still saying chad. This sidney Rice talk is lame. guy’s hip is chalked and he isnt the vet we need
June 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Also before I jet…..love the idea of Branch at FS and Mithcell at SS….Stevie can be the 3rd safety. I dont miss Huff is what ppl will say soon
June 25th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Anyhow…..yall stay solid….off to check out the scenery in the East Bay
June 25th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
both SD games JC was clutch and KC game he was as well.
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Definately the KC game. That’s what I am talking about, when your struggling, team is hanging on by a thread and the QB comes in and emerges down the stretch to win the game. Final drive in regulation, throws a nice pass, gets called back for holding (terrible hold from Veldheer), no worries, still finishes of the drive and win.
As far as both SD games??? First one he came into with a double-digit lead, so that’s about as easy of a situation as possible.
And the second game was complete dominance from our O-line. Game was over at halftime, because our O-line had ripped out the soul of the Chargers.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
but Soup isn’t the only QB that has to deal with poor pass-protection at times and WR’s dropping passes.
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If you factor in the low pass attempts based on how we run our offense, then I think it’s a completely different story.
JC is getting the ball to the RBs and TEs with no problem. Some people actually kill him for doing that, lol, when it’s CLEAR as can be that our RBs and TE are the best options.
I think what some of you are looking for is more down the field stuff to the WRs. But what you’re failing to recognize is on the 3rd and long type plays, we usually have a breakdown on the Oline, a penalty, a dropped pass, or a bad route. Occasionally the stars come together and JC or one of the WRs makes a play on a 3rd and long, but we all know it’s 50-50 at best.
If you’re suggesting to me that there is another QB out there who can overcome those hurdles, then I am all for bringing that guy in.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
If Raids don’t re-up Satele, that means they roll into 2011 with just Wiz and Veldheer as options at center. Don’t believe anyone else has experience at C. Think the Raids would like to establish V as a fixture at LT, so it’s hard to see them asking him to be ready to play C too.
So, either the Raids re-up Satele or it’s almost guaranteed they bring in a FA that can also play center.
You just can’t go into the season with an untested rookie as the only real viable option at center. Impossible.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I don’t think Satele is going to resign as a backup.
June 25th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Wiz 2.0 and Jered Veldheer COMBINED have not played one full season of Center in their careers, pro and college.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
J,
3rd and longs are HARD FOR ANY TEAM AND QB. That’s where the rubber meets the road if you want to be a good/great QB, or if you want to be everyone else.
I get on Soup because I think he plays it too close to the vest at times. When your losing, you have to take appropriate risks and chances.
I know some of these 3rd and longs, some WR is in single coverage past the sticks.
Throw him the pelota!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I know some of these 3rd and longs, some WR is in single coverage past the sticks.
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A lot of these 3rd and longs, our WRs are in single coverage or working against a zone, but they are not open.
You are right, I see a lot of other teams in that same scenario. You know what we are missing from our offense? That back shoulder throw, or the purposely underthrown ball.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I think what some of you are looking for is more down the field stuff to the WRs. But what you’re failing to recognize is on the 3rd and long type plays, we usually have a breakdown on the Oline, a penalty, a dropped pass, or a bad route. Occasionally the stars come together and JC or one of the WRs makes a play on a 3rd and long, but we all know it’s 50-50 at best.
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That’s your story, and I know you’re sticking to it.
Certainly there is truth and accuracy to it.
But it’s not the entire story.
When evaluating JaJason’s (or any other qb’s) play it’s necessary to take into account the instances where other elements that he doesn’t control DON’T break down.
What happens when he is given time ? Does he quickly scan the field and find the open WR ? Does he have the accuracy to consistently hit his target? Does he want to push the ball upfield ? Is he confident he can do it ?
Or is he content to merely take what the defense is giving him ? Is he averse to prudent risk taking ? Is he too content to settle for the checkdown ?
I’m reluctant to criticize JaJason for being ‘Capt. Checkdown’. His strength is NOT the intermediate or long game. I don’t believe for a second that the Raid’s painfully obvious lack of an intermediate or long passing game is attributable to mainly a lack of protection or poor WRs. A large part of it, yes. But a very large part of that also falls on JaJason. To put it bluntly, he’s missed on several very easy long passes (SF) and appears way too timid for my taste when he’s been given ample time, only to settle for the checkdown.
A man’s got to know his limitations. JaJason knows his. It’s kept him in the NFL for 7 years now. He won’t kill you with turnovers, but he won’t carry the team either.
Not good enough.
As for an alternative, my oft stated position is to bring VY in. At least he’s a proven winner in the NFL.
Of course, when JaJason flames out, there will be the absurd ‘he can’t play with another QB looking over his shoulder’ excuse, but that’s something I can live with.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
That’s your story, and I know you’re sticking to it.
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LOL!
June 25th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
You know what we are missing from our offense? That back shoulder throw, or the purposely underthrown ball.
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Very true.
This is where Chaz will come into play this season, IMO.
We know we can’t count on DHB doing the back-shoulder thing. He can’t even catch the front-shoulder pass!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I don’t believe for a second that the Raid’s painfully obvious lack of an intermediate or long passing game is attributable to mainly a lack of protection or poor WRs. A large part of it, yes.
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A large part of it is? I think that is all I’ve been saying.
SF game, as you point out, there were back to back deep throws that were incomplete. 1 was the overthrow to Murphy which is on JC. The other, a few plays later, was a deep pass to Ford that he dropped.
I’d say that is about where our passing game was last year.
I think under those same circumstances this year, I think it’s possible for JC have better timing with Murphy and hits him on those deep passes. I also think Ford will be a bit more settled in and not drop that pass.
I’m not really concerned about the play where things DON’T break down. I think we tend to do just fine on those downs.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Bauce,
Where do I start with you?
1. I dont believe I used the word pagan. Our founding fathers were believers in God. It was Deism, Christianity and somewhere in between. Here is a quote from Thomas Paine in the Age of Reason.
“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
Paine also wrote “An Essay on the Origin of Free-Masonry” (1803–1805), about the Bible being allegorical myth describing astrology:
The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally payed to the sun.
2. Our pledge of alliegaince never had “under god” in it until the 1950’s. You can easily google that as well. Here is a link for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance
3. So taxing for bridges and roads is different from income tax? If money is going out of your pocket to pay for expenses like police, military, bridges and road, then how is it not income tax? No clue what you are saying there.
4. I dont wish for JC to fail. I know he is going to fail. You have your observation and I have mine.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Bauce,
Where do I start with you?
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What happened to not getting sucked in?
I guess that was another lie, lol!
June 25th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Hill,
I suggest you move on. You really dont want me to lay one into you.
June 25th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
We know we can’t count on DHB doing the back-shoulder thing. He can’t even catch the front-shoulder pass!!!
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Unfortunately, that’s probably true.
Think it was the finale in KC, game was already in the win column for the Raids…they’re looking to just get a first down and run out the clock. Think it was something like 3rd and 6. JaJason rolls left, DHB is about 12 yards upfield running toward the sideline and coming back towards JaJason. He’s got two steps on the defender and there’s nothing but green grass and an unencumbered sight line between him and JC. JaJason’s pass might be a split second late in coming, but it’s perfectly on target and one of those lobs that’s extremely catchable…almost impossible to drop.
But DHB did the impossible. CLANK.
That, more than any other drop, (except maybe the clank job against KC two years ago which got picked and cost the Raids a shot at a Grads comeback) really distressed me and leads me to believe he’s NEVER gonna develop.
Hard to be a deep threat if you can’t make an over the shoulder catch. But if you can’t catch the ball facing the QB, something is really, really wrong.
June 25th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
210.aig-raiders Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Hill,
I suggest you move on. You really dont want me to lay one into you.
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180.Bauce Rules Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
AIG you try to argue your points and think you “poke” holes in people’s theories but in essence you dont and never will. You remind me of the lame kid in school that laughed at his own jokes that no one found funny
June 25th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Hill,
Bauce misquoted me and I will answer him. It sounds like you are still bitter from yesterday. I, again, suggest you move on.
June 25th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
One other DHB observation.
He has a nasty habit of leaving his feet, leaping into the air before attempting to make a catch, when it’s absolutely not necessary.
I’m kind of amused when people come in here blasting Sanjay Lal for being a poor WR coach. The truth is probably none of them have seen Lal in action as a coach. They have no idea how he interacts with the WRs, how knowledgable he is, etc.
If a guy just has stone hands all the coaching in the world might not be able to transform him into a sure handed rcvr, but DHB’s tendency to leave his feet is something that’s definitely correctable.
I hope Lal is all over him.
June 25th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Raiderman99
Football as a WR is so unnatural to DHB. The dude has terrible timing and tracking the ball as noted by Tim Brown last season. Not sure if that stuff can ever be fixed. I’d like to see shorter passes to him and allow him to run after the ball with his big body and speed.
June 25th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Yeah, that might be the only way to go with DHB at this point. Short stuff and reverses.
Sucks, bcz obviously he was drafted to stretch the field.
I expect Hue to continue to run alot of reverses. If the Raid offense had a ’signature’ play last year, it was the reverse. Ford was really good on those. DHB might have some success there too.
June 25th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
R99
I believe that you have to be above the avg guy to be a pro of any sport. DHB has great physical abilities but I dont think natural football instinct is something he possesses. His best asset, imo, is having the football in his hands. The key is figuring out how to get it into his hands with fewer attempts.
Btw, why are you not a Ron Paul guy?
June 25th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
It sounds like you are still bitter from yesterday.
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180.Bauce Rules Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
AIG you try to argue your points and think you “poke” holes in people’s theories but in essence you dont and never will. You remind me of the lame kid in school that laughed at his own jokes that no one found funny
June 25th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
AIG,
I going to hook up with LA2TheBay to play some golf, care tp join us?
We can handle that bet you were …
Oh, I forgot, you never intended to show up, lol!
June 25th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
AIG,
How can you pass up the chance to PROVE that I am every bit the liar you are?
AND get paid for doing it?
$10 a hole you said, right?
Oak Valley is a predominantly Asian run and used golf course. I’m sure you’ll feel safe there. I might be the only HN at the course, lol.
June 25th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
(except maybe the clank job against KC two years ago which got picked and cost the Raids a shot at a Grads comeback)
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LOL!
The one he dropped in the first half that ended up getting JRuss benched was even worse than that. How could you forget that one?
DHB was so bad in that game even JFB was giving Russell props that day, lol. We both were literally scratching our heads at how he could be benched in the one game that season he was throwing the pelota well.
June 25th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Ron Paul ?
He’s got some interesting economic policy. Like the libertarian side of him.
But the guy’s completely lost when it comes to foreign policy. He’s an isolationist at a time, and in an era, when America can not afford to adopt that stance.
However, I do strongly agree with him that America should end all foreign aid.
He’s also a racist and an antisemite.
Takes contributions from Stormfront and the American Nazi party, and openly associates with them.
His newsletter was for many years replete with anti-black, anti-latino diatribes. He denies knowing about them or endorsing those views now, but he signed his name to every newsletter.
His denial is about as believable as Obummer’s claim of not hearing what Jeremiah Wright was preaching.
Also, Paul’s most avid followers are nut jobs. They seem to all think 9/11 was a neo-con (code word for Jew) conspiracy. Invariably, when there’s an on-line poll, his nut job followers go berserk and he wins every poll – but when the actual primary goes down, he has little or no real support.
Also, I just don’t like the guy. Nothing tangible, but his personality irks me.
June 25th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
DHB was so bad in that game even JFB was giving Russell props that day, lol. We both were literally scratching our heads at how he could be benched in the one game that season he was throwing the pelota well.
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I hear ya. But I must add, I’ve never scratched my head and wondered how JaMoron could be benched.
Often wondered WTF he was doing on the field to begin with, but never why he was benched or kicked to the curb.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
@R99,
Oh dang, you got the skinny on R. Paul. I know you are a conservative so I’d figure he’s a lot better than Bachmann. I have always wondered why he doesnt get enough traction on the right. I know he’s not the most charismatic and physically appealing dude in the race.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I have a few Asian associates who shall we say, grew up or has associated with the hip hop generation. As with most people who have a “second language” they tend to miss a few things when conversing with “real” dudes. Sorta like Zeva misses a few things and says stuff like is that the kettle calling the pot black?
J Hill Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
I mean guys like you who are not traditional Asians. Your try to “be cool” and talk a little slang, lol. Instead of just bring the Asian computer geek you say you’re proud to be.
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First, I like music of all kinds. Used to lisen to Paris at some point. I could quote the more mainstream rappers but I think The Devil Made Me Do It would be enough for now.
Second, so you have a few Asian associates and you think you can now generalize about Asians. I am sure us Asians with our yellow skin and small eyes are all the same right? Filipinos, Chinese, Japs, Viets and Laos are all the same to you right? I am sure you know exactly what a “Traditional” Asian is from your few Asian associates (2 friends or perhaps 3?) ? Isn’t that how ignorant Whites used to look at Blacks in the first place? They would drop names of a few token Black folks they know to give them the legitimacy to generalize and stereotype. Are you any different?
Third, in case you haven’t noticed, calling you a liar and weasel is definitely not trying to be “cool” and no slang involved either.
You on the other hand are nothing but a SoCal Country Club golfer who happens to have black skin. You dropping names of golf courses with a $150 green fee only reveal to me you’re trying hard so hard to impress. You’re not Carlton Banks of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air are you? You try so hard with your hip hop cred to be cool on this blog. Believe me, Lil Wayne and his hip hop generation would never wake up at 6 am to go golfing like you. Do I really want to sit in a golf cart for 5 hours with someone that I think is a weasel? You’re nothing but an ignorant bigot, a house negro as described by the late Malcom X, and sounds evermore like an oreo cookie to me as well.
Feel free to report me to Jerry if you want. I don’t care if Jerry bans me from this blog. It was worth it to get it off my chest.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Relax everyone, your soccer ambassador is in the stadium for the game of the year.
The one and only Gold Cup
GO USA!!!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
I would hate to be a white boy wearing red white and blue in the Rose Bowl tonight.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Feel free to report me to Jerry if you want. I don’t care if Jerry bans me from this blog. It was worth it to get it off my chest.
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HAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHA
Report you to Jerry ????
HAHAHHAHAHAH HAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAHAHAHAAH
Woooooo HOOOOO HHAHAHAHAHAH
What do you think you said that needs to be reported?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
June 25th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Isn’t that how ignorant Whites used to look at Blacks in the first place? They would drop names of a few token Black folks they know to give them the legitimacy to generalize and stereotype
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You mean like you dropped the Memphis Raider Booster club, or whatever that name was?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
June 25th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
You try so hard with your hip hop cred to be cool on this blog. Believe me, Lil Wayne and his hip hop generation would never wake up at 6 am to go golfing like you.
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LOLOLOLOL
What does this even mean?
Communiation gap again.
Question though, If I have “hip hop cred”, then who can I be a HN?
I wish you would pick one script and stick to it.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
I am sure us Asians with our yellow skin and small eyes are all the same right? Filipinos, Chinese, Japs, Viets and Laos are all the same to you right?
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You mean like all black people like JC and make up excuses for him?
Or how all black people complain and work, file lawsuits, and get Al Sharpton at a rally?
June 25th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Theres no english channel just the spanish station. I will just put on some Glen Campbell and Tanya Tucker while I watch the match
June 25th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Do I really want to sit in a golf cart for 5 hours with someone that I think is a weasel? You’re nothing but an ignorant bigot, a house negro as described by the late Malcom X, and sounds evermore like an oreo cookie to me as well.
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This is just too funny.
You need go back to your slang for dummies book and try and REALLY figure out what a HN and OREO cookie are.
I’d like for you to give me ONE example of how a black person could be an OREO, HN, AND a BIGGOT, lol!
June 25th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Good to see the soccer ambassador is still in the house!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Thank you firebaby!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
It is a gorgeous day for kickball, errrr I mean football!!
June 25th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
I hope the soccer trolls are out tonight. I am anxious to impress them with my vasst knowledge of the game. They didnt make me ambassador because of my looks.
June 25th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
This is a tough one too call. Im thinking 5-1
June 25th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
You on the other hand are nothing but a SoCal Country Club golfer who happens to have black skin. You dropping names of golf courses with a $150 green fee only reveal to me you’re trying hard so hard to impress. You’re not Carlton Banks of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air are you?
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I was actually playing to your silicon valley, made a lot of money off .com, I just bought a set of new blades arssseeee.
I figured you wouldn’t want to play a scrub course.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I wonder if Jerry banned AIG yet?
He was doing some super tough chatting this evening.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
So the bottom line is team USA blows. Our little brother to the South is gonna kick butt unless The USA can remember the alamo
June 25th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
What kind of call was that? He was clearly out of bounds
June 25th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
To be honest and fair tp JC that SF game was a bad game for everyone on offense. There were several drops and bad plays made by all. He was under heavy rush and we couldn’t run worth crap. We just underestimated the niners resolve to beat us. Because the niners lost to the Panthers the next week.
The last pass JC threw was a dart to Ford that bounced off his chest and was intercepted. Thus the horrible rating. We flat dropped a TD pass. The pressure was relentless it was the best game the Niners played all year long.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
To be honest and fair tp JC that SF game was a bad game for everyone on offense. There were several drops and bad plays made by all. He was under heavy rush and we couldn’t run worth crap. We just underestimated the niners resolve to beat us. Because the niners lost to the Panthers the next week.
The last pass JC threw was a dart to Ford that bounced off his chest and was intercepted. Thus the horrible rating. We flat dropped a TD pass. The pressure was relentless it was the best game the Niners played all year long.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Holy smokes, theres a new movie on syfy a monstrous, mutated shark wrecks havoc on the Mississippi River.
Sounds like MR here at river jerryworld
June 25th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Sorry bad analogy MR is like the retard on Spikes movie “Do the right thing” the guy who’s always selling pix of black leaders.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
A retard that stutters..
June 25th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Do I really want to sit in a golf cart for 5 hours with someone that I think is a weasel?
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aig-raiders Says:
June 20th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
@Hill, What you think of McIlroy yesterday? Picked up Wilson blades PI7 for $100 last week. Sweet clubs. Going to pick up a Karsten Anser 2 putter this week. Where are you in SoCal? I may swing by for a round. We can talk more shcccytt in person.
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So 5 days ago, you were all chatty about playing golf and talking shcccytt in person, lol.
Went as far as calling me out to put my $ where my mouth was, bragged about how I would never take the bet….
And NOW you are trying to act like you never wanted to play? Should I go back and repost where you thanked me for inviting you to play, and asked if I played in TO?
Were you being disingenuous?
Right quick, could you please remind us what the definition of a weasel is?
June 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
The last pass JC threw was a dart to Ford that bounced off his chest and was intercepted. Thus the horrible rating. We flat dropped a TD pass.
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I think it’s funny how the JC Haters only want to talk about the pass he overthrew to Murphy, but don’t want to talk about those 2 plays.
GRANTED, JC should not have overthrown that pass.
BUT those 2 Ford DROPS were HUGE plays in that game. HUGE!!!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2 to zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I think half the stadium just tossed their churros
June 25th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
248.J Hill Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
aig-raiders Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Do I really want to sit in a golf cart for 5 hours with someone that I think is a weasel?
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aig-raiders Says:
June 20th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
@Hill, What you think of McIlroy yesterday? Picked up Wilson blades PI7 for $100 last week. Sweet clubs. Going to pick up a Karsten Anser 2 putter this week. Where are you in SoCal? I may swing by for a round. We can talk more shcccytt in person.
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So 5 days ago, you were all chatty about playing golf and talking shcccytt in person, lol.
Went as far as calling me out to put my $ where my mouth was, bragged about how I would never take the bet….
And NOW you are trying to act like you never wanted to play? Should I go back and repost where you thanked me for inviting you to play, and asked if I played in TO?
Were you being disingenuous?
Right quick, could you please remind us what the definition of a weasel is?
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hahaha fuggin ha!!!!!!!! still cant get over a asian callin a black dude a house ninja cuz he read some malcolm x sh!t. aig we squared our sh!t away but did u really have to go there homie? this is why we need some football bad. but i will admit yall goin back and forth has been the best rivalry in here. damn brien u better kick yo game up against mr and kk. jhill and aig got u beat right now.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Jhill They know JC is better than they make out it’s just they have to convince themselves. JC isn’t nearly as bad as some make him out to be sure he needs to be more consistent but he has obvious talent.
As time goes by and I look at where we were b4 we got JC and now as well as where we could go with that kid at QB. I have to believe we stole that guy and the Redskins are still scrambling to find someone to fill that spot.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
LOL!
Wassup Armond.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Fellas football is almost here, the best sign I’ve seen so far, I’m sure there were others but when I saw D Smith and Goodell side by side and amicable in an interview there couldn’t have been a more symbolic sign of resolution and single mindedness on both sides than that.
June 25th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Actually Armond how can I step it up anymore? MR and Kell are savagely overmatched. Notice how passive MR is now in his tone with me? See me absolutely shhhht on Kell with his own ammos(links)? AIG and Jhill can have their top battle. It will be nice when I find someone who can run it back evenly with me
June 25th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
same ol same ol j. honoring the real MJ by playin all of his hits. ofcourse a house ninja like u aint up on that.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
256.Bauce Rules Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Actually Armond how can I step it up anymore? MR and Kell are savagely overmatched. Notice how passive MR is now in his tone with me? See me absolutely shhhht on Kell with his own ammos(links)? AIG and Jhill can have their top battle. It will be nice when I find someone who can run it back evenly with me
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by cursin
June 25th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Think about it…Jhill and AIG GOT YOU BEAT brien lol….Im only one man….only one man
June 25th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Lol Armond….i cuss alot
June 25th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Best thing is AIG still cant get with me on any issue. Not acknowledging that income tax thing is unconstitutional shows this. He said he never used PAGAN lol…..in last blog post he sure did lol. Backtrack buddy
June 25th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Armond….old school MJ is it! Baby be Mine, Off the Wall, Get on The Floor, PYT, Shake Ya Body….man so many MJ classics
June 25th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Im currently listening to JC sing “Sail On” lol
June 25th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
bauce i just posted some real talk about taxes to back up your point and the mods wouldnt post it. dumb mofos. hell yeah old school mj is the sh!t. listenin to speed demon. dont heartbreak hotel, wanna be startin somethin.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Yeah Armond,
You know I don’t know a thing about Mike with the big nose.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Heartbreak Hotel is that jam…..thats when i get to the dance floor and teach ya squares somethin bout cuttin a rug. Bauce got giggems dont be fooled…..ah Armond of course mods hating no shhht….back to MJ….u ever been the the Michael vs Prince shhht at Madrone’s in SF? I hardly go to the Sco but thats Fillmore district and generally its solid. That dj handles biz . Aint went there in a minute but had bzies checkin fa a fella. I bat 1000 there
June 25th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Sad thing Armond our beautifil city Oakland is rapidly changing. No cool place to really hit up anymore. When a new place pops off its cool for 6 months then its over. SJ used to be the plaace now thats chalked and you get bumped by cops too much in da 408 fa sho. If u wanna party for sure the sewer ass city of SF IS UR BEST BET! Theyy got hella places to go to
June 25th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
thats when i get to the dance floor and teach ya squares somethin bout cuttin a rug.
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Yup …
I can see you buttering up the bottom of your shoes and slidin’ on out there.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
But Oaklaand trying at least around downtown. New stuff being built with high rise apts by the Lake. Oakland will get back in 2015 fully. All that Im hustlin n-gga or whiteeboy hippy shht is done here. Truthfully it had to end. Downtown oakland is a ghost town on weekends
June 25th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
@jhill mike with the small nose is worse.
@b never seen that but i need to. prince and mj 2 of the greatest artists fa sho. beezies love mofos who can dance especially to they sh!t cuz only real cats can dance to their music. cant be a square dancin to them to 2 if u know what i mean. beezies wanna see if dudes can get they eagle on 2.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Jhill….i got tremendous gigs buddy. Legendary! Use to show em how to do it on that floor back when I lived in LA. i seen cats steal what me and my patna from west oakland D speezies use to do. Im talkin bout in the music videos from that time
June 25th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
its sad what oakland became. i see they had some of that la gang sh!t jumpin off. tried to tell these square azz south bay fools oakland didnt have gangs it was hoods bein represented. watchin all that gangland and now they experts. i heard u gotta a bunch of mexican gangs jumpin off up there which is new to me. nobody in the O was bangin when i was growin up. that was straight LA stuff.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Armond I hardly dance like I use to….but trust me its all the mouthpiece I need. My groovers aare on they shhht like bad bowel moves!
June 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
beezies wanna see if dudes can get they eagle on 2.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Would have never pictured the 2 of you as some dancin fools.
I’ll stick to the don’t spill the Henny dance. The BZs know wassup as soon as they get a hug.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
san jose weak as fugg now. it was cool when i used to come down here and then it fell off when i moved here.
police starin shuttin down santa clara where all the clubs are. beezies was everywhere. didnt even go inside the club cuz the street was hot. the heffas was out and about. now its different so i dont hang no more. the music in the park is still goin on tho. the bay gettin kinda flat now.
June 25th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
beezies was everywhere. didnt even go inside the club cuz the street was hot. the heffas was out and about.
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Parkin’ Lot Pimpin’
June 25th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Juat to give a heads up Marcel Reece is hosting his first Skills and Drills Football Camp for kids ages 7 to 18 on July 16th… Really would like the Raider Nation to step up and help make his camp a great one. More Details at http://www.hillmansports.com
June 25th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
274.J Hill Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
beezies wanna see if dudes can get they eagle on 2.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Would have never pictured the 2 of you as some dancin fools.
I’ll stick to the don’t spill the Henny dance. The BZs know wassup as soon as they get a hug.
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j u gotta let some know whta the fugg they missin out on sometimes. dont do it much but when i did it was on. some was actin funny then was eye ballin when this 1 chick felt the RAPTURE! “oh i didnt know u could move like that.” well i did now move b!tch get out the way!! on to the next one. cant stand half of these heffas.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
just dont smell quite the same in here without that s**t disturber stinkin the place up like some old dog log.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
276.J Hill Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
beezies was everywhere. didnt even go inside the club cuz the street was hot. the heffas was out and about.
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Parkin’ Lot Pimpin’
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why spend 25 to get in the club and more on drinks when u can do the same stuff for free outside? never understood why cats did all that frontin. im a cheap bastard, hahaha!
June 25th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
im a cheap bastard, hahaha!
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LOL!
I remember. With your needin a beezie who can cook, hatin to go to Chili’s, golden corral eatin arsssse.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
P.I.M.P
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Jhill….i got tremendous gigs buddy. Legendary! Use to show em how to do it on that floor back when I lived in LA. i seen cats steal what me and my patna from west oakland D speezies use to do. Im talkin bout in the music videos from that time
June 25th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Looks like there wont be a season, if tj is optimistic yo u know the opposite will happen…
Sorry for the bad news!
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Priesttj Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Fellas football is almost here
June 25th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Ya’ll don’t want to see me on the dance floor.
I literally meet my wife at 2am on the floor at the Bank in the Bellagio.
We probably said about 10 words to each other before it was showtime.
The even colder part?? I snagged a dub from the purse for a cab home in the morning, ended up marrying her and still have never told her to this day.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I remember. With your needin a beezie who can cook, hatin to go to Chili’s, golden corral eatin arsssse.
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and ya know this, maaaaan!!! went to hollywierd for the 1rst time last year and loved every minute of it. it was definately interesting. cant believe that was the 1rst time out several trips to socal. what was i thinkin? havin another family reuion down there this summer mayne. we gotta hook up whenever i get down there again. dont trip i dont think u a house ninja even tho u play golf.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
284.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Ya’ll don’t want to see me on the dance floor.
I literally meet my wife at 2am on the floor at the Bank in the Bellagio.
We probably said about 10 words to each other before it was showtime.
The even colder part?? I snagged a dub from the purse for a cab home in the morning, ended up marrying her and still have never told her to this day.
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dont let me meet her cuz im blackmailin yo azz.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
I plan on getting AIG faded and waaaaaay out of his element here in ABQ.
Should be epic.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Armond = captain sava????
June 25th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
288.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Armond = captain sava????
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haha u a fool. dont care about savin her but more like pimpin YOU. u seem to be pretty good with them decimals mayne so i assume u got love for the paper.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
i guess i shouldve said im BLACK MAL(E)ING yo azz.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
June 25th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
The even colder part?? I snagged a dub from the purse for a cab home in the morning,
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LOL!
June 25th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
stringer bell, hahaha oh no she didnt. its always them dark skinned brothas 2. dont even think about makin a kk reference. thats brien territory.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
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That’s just your conscious gettin back at you after you jump off Kee Kee.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
J,
NFL replay, Raiders-Colts on Monday.
Mandatory film review.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
stringer bell, hahaha oh no she didnt.
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I thought she was going to cry after Omar and Brother Mouzone got him.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Make sure you DVR it JFB!
I already have it on DVR so, yeah we can chop it up, no problem.
I guess we can look at how JC kept checking down against Cover 2.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
……….
That explains it.
Kell & Priest,
This is the case with every one of them, isn’t it?
June 25th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Wow. Just wow. In case anyone missed it:
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
June 25th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I guess we can look at how JC kept checking down against Cover 2.
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You do realize that Al called JC after the game and asked why the ball didn’t go downfield more, right ?
JC’s response was ‘they played alot of cover 2′.
Not sure if you were being sarcastic and saying that wasn’t the case.
But according to JC himself, it was.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
299.RAIDER Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Wow. Just wow. In case anyone missed it:
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
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What’s the big deal? Armond is cool, and so is JFB. Could it be KoolKell be cool too? You just need to let it ride brah.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Confucious say man who smelt it, dealt it.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
One other quick comment regarding the pass to Ford in the waning moments of the whiner debacle…
I didn’t get a great look at that one…but weren’t the Raids down by 9 with little time left ?
Not sure about the score, but I know they needed a TD and needed it quick.
From my vantage JC was, once again, throwing the ball underneath when it should have been going further downfield in that instance.
Looked to me like he threw a dart into Ford’s chest who was about 5 yards away. Ford probably didn’t expect that and the result was predictable. I blame JC just as much, if not more than Ford for that one.
But again, I didn’t get a great look at that play.
And BHP if you think that single play screwed JC’s QB rating that day, or that if that pass was completed that JC’s improved rating would have meant he played decently, you’re crazy.
JaJason was horrid that day. Got outplayed by Alex Smith. Pathetic.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Armond…san jose was the schit. It was a pull session. Didnt matter if she had a man lol. The Bauce did well and then police became savage. Bauce dont do police
June 25th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
To be fair, he hasn’t been asked to do a lot of read and react stuff as a deep safety.
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Branch was TERRIBLE readimng and reacting last year. There were many TDs thrown over his head when he kept his eyes in the back field and bit hard on the run. There were also plain old blown plays and coverages.
Maybe he’ll play better but on several occasions he was boint.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Wow JC sucked vs SF. It hurt bad to see it. Yeah well from best to worse it happens. We got beat. What more do u need? He had a 3 game win streak after. Is that not bouncing back?
June 25th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
303. Campbell SHOULD have been benched and was. He had some terrible games especially in he beginning but man, he managed the gam,e well, toomk a beating and kept ticking. Made critical throws and plays with his feet.
We keep the ground game churning he should be fine.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Yup sure was at SS branch stunk….whatever. Guy isnt a SS. He is a former corner and he doesnt miss too many tackles and makes plays. I’ll take him at FS. With MM34 we are intimidating back there
June 25th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
JC deserved only one benching. The Pitt game both lines were overwhelmed. We had no chance. Why not start him vs Mia? We blew it on that. The guy with most success at qb aint on the field?
June 25th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Heading out to the Atlantis casino.
Plunk and Flores are supposed to be there. At least they were last night.
Bet they’re both hammered by now.
Later fellas.
June 25th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Lol ninerwoman49…..JC gets blame for a late game ass to the chest? Stop it. This is exactly what I mean with you JC haters. Even when he makes right pass that woulda been a first down he is wrong lol
June 25th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
They can say what they want about what he didn’t do the facts are we are way better off at that position than we were b4 he got here. At the very least we have a quality starter. Potentially a very good, even great player at that position and we couldn’t say any of that 2 years ago.
We were stuck with an awesome talent who was immature and didn’t want to take on the responsibility, and a kid who lacked talent but was very competitive. JC has it all really the sky is the limit with JC. I don’t think I would’ve ever said this until now, but JC is damn near every bit as talented as Russell. But with the work ethic and professionalism he lacked. I just didn’t think JC posessed that kind of raw talent as I watch games after some time has passed and really focus on him alone. The guy is really talented beyond anything I had given him.
You can see him trying to grasp just what to do with this young team and his struggles weren’t just lack of confidence in himself but in the players around him. It’s hard to anticipate exactly what we’ll see next year but it easy to imagine it being much better.
June 26th, 2011 at 5:53 am
And for all those people that come on here and whine, “What to YOU care about how much they make, it’s not your money”.
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No worries about a cap, Al’s accountant below has it all figured out. Lmao!
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Big Al doesn’t operate like most GM’s he’s going to give a player what he thinks he’s worth irregrads to what everyone else thinks. Signing one player has zero to do with signing another. Unless we’re overstocked at s particular position. We could end up with all of them.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:06 am
why spend 25 to get in the club and more on drinks when u can do the same stuff for free outside?
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Exactly! Why spend 6 bucks a bottle inside when you don’t have to. I’m getting loose in the parking lot to set the mood, go in later and buy a few and mingle with the hunnies. If it wasn’t for a pat down i’d bring some southern comfort in the back pocket in with me.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Look JC is the starter this year, i can’t believe this is still a debate. Love it or hate it, he’s the man. I just hope we don’t see any San Fran type performances again this year. That was the worst game i have ever witnessed! I’m not a huge JC guy, but i will not wish bad games on him. I hope he succeeds, he’s our only option at qb this year.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Must be miscommunication gap? Damn.
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Zeva,
The phrase is “communication gap”, not MIScommunication gap!
AND …
It’s “caught IN a lie”, not caught ON a lie.
We’ll keep working with you.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Getting a head start on the film review JFB.
How nice is it to actually have a solid return game? Ford taking that opening kick back to the house was sweet. Seems like it was forver that we had some fullback or just plain ole scrub returning kicks that NEVER had a chance to go anywhere.
Can’t wait for this season when we’ll finally have a solid PR guy. I fully expect Taiwan Jones to get that spot.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Haterman99,
After all this JC hate your answer is Vince Young?!?!
Hate JC’s intermediate/deep ball…and VY is your solution.
The man who would rather scramble on 3rd & 8.
Hate JC’s leadership…and VY is your answer.
The man who quit on his teammates and was a key factor in ending the longest current head coaching tenure with his tantrums. What happened to re-dedicating focus in honor of his slain mentor, McNair?
Seems like JaVince is more accurate than JaJason.
All because he’s proven to win 10 reg season games and nothing more.
Compare JC to other starters all you want but when you compare him to who’s available, J. Campbell is clearly the best QB for the Raiders right now.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Ok, so right off the bat I have to freeze it.
Colts are in a 2 TE singleback set.
We only have ONE LB on the field.
Nnamdi, Routt, CJ37, Mitchell, Branch, and Huff are all out there.
WTF are we doing?????
These type of lineups and the 5 safety sets are why I’m glad Marshall is gone!
June 26th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Ok, one more thing I noticed is Houston is starting at DT and Wimbely is starting at DE. Unfortunately, Wimbley is starting on the wrong side a la Derrick Burgess.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:05 am
LOL at Gallery on the first play from scrimmage. Engages the DT for about a 2nd, then releases him to go pancake the MLB.
Looks good huh Big Rob?
Pancaked the MLB good and proper like.
All good, BUT that DT you released, pancaked our RB. Good job Rob.
By the way, Savage had the MLB in his sights.
Effin Gallery!
June 26th, 2011 at 7:08 am
LOL at Satele and Gallery on the 2nd play.
Please pay attention to Satele on this play.
Wiz is an upgrade. Has to be.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Raiderman
1st drive, 3rd and 4, JC rolls out hits Miller, Miller drops the pass, we have to punt.
Run, Run, dropped pass, punt happens WAY more than you admit.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Branch misses tackle, 3yd run turns into 12 yd gain.
It was a pitch to the outside SnB and Young B. Before you get started on your DT rant, figured I’d throw that out there.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Henderson gets his first snap on a 3rd and 4, Indy tries to run right at him, to no avail.
Too bad he wasn’t healthy last year. Would have recieved a lot more snaps.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:19 am
That drove me nuts seeing a fb trot out there to return KO’s! I’m so glad we finally have a few threats to take it to the house rather than a 10-15 yard return at best. I was so pumped to see our special teams last year, especially the game plan against SD early in that game blocking punts for tds!
June 26th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Remember J, I will be watching the NFL replay, which doesn’t show EVERY play, so we may have some miscommunication gaps on the film review.
But watching Gallery in the Jax game was eye-opening. He might have been the single worst player on the field!!!
Never did his job well.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Carlisle 5 yds in the backfield on a running play.
Needless to say that play was a loss of ydg, lol.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Walker gets beat, his man hits JCs arm as he’s delivering it to an open McFadden, lol.
Punt instead of a 1st dn.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:25 am
so we may have some miscommunication gaps on the film review.
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LOL!
June 26th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Burned by Manning on a 3rd a 7.
Why?
That Marshall double S blitz again.
Could’ve been off the field, but instead the drive continues for a TD.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Satele is garbage.
Effff what you guys are saying.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Does anyone else feel that ATL just got a lot better by drafting J Jones? Man that offense is going to be something special with Ryan, Turner, R. White and now Jones imo. Although their schedule is brutal!
June 26th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Jhill that’s just a 3/4 nickle defense you’re looking at I don’t have the game because it was blacked out so I’m glad they’re showing on NFLN. But we often did that against high octane passing teams. That’s why they also wre able to run on us with 3rd team HB. You gotta remember Payton forces you to keep a defense on the field that you want to change.
So you’ll see lineups that don’t seem right at times when facing him. Plus we had a rookie MLB and our SS Branch really struggled in this game if I remember correctly.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:41 am
I’ve seen enough.
By scheme alone, we have no chance. Even the announcers are like why are both of our S 15 yds off the ball?
AND we only have one LB on the field. Manning is just checking off to a run for 10 yds here, 15 yds there.
And he’s just hitting basic drag routes across the middle off of a little traffic on the outside and our man is a step behind.
TERRIBLE!
June 26th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Priest,
It was not a 3/4 nickel defense.
We have a 4 man line with McClain the only LB on the field.
We do NOT have 4 LBs on the field.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Nothing else on, phugg it I’ll keep up the torcher.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Nice throw and catch, JC to DHB.
1 for 1 so far.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Classic play where folks will say JC hold on to the ball too long.
Just crossed midfield on a nice run by Bush. 1st and 10 on the 41, we go 2TEs, 1RB, 1FB, 1WR.
Barnes, our 2nd TE, is on the same side as Miller, and we motion Reece to that same side to the other WR position leaving Bush as the single back.
Of course we call a PA pass with JCs looks to that side. Unfortunately, Reece couldn’t beat a CB, Miller was doubled, and Barnes couldn’t get open, lol.
Meanwhile here comes Freeny walking right around Veldheer, and we’re now looking at 2nd and 16, lol.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Jhill that’s only 10 players on D you have to have more than 1 LB if you have 5 DB’s and 4 Dline. Either the other LB’s are one the line or there are 6 DB’s or something. I have to see it, it’s obviously a nickle D.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:21 am
JC couldn’t complete a 3rd and 17 …
Damn he sucks!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Wimbley Houston Kelly ShoNasty
McClain
Branch Huff Mitchell
Routt Nnamdi CJ37
June 26th, 2011 at 8:27 am
And the point is it’s not a 3/4 of any sort. I don’t want to hear any of this equivalent business. 3/4 = 4 LBs, and we don’t even have 2 on the field.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:35 am
WE’ve run the FB screen twice. First time it was dropped for a 1 yd loss.
2nd time, the corner is all over it and almost picks it off, off of the Reece deflection.
Then we come right back and run a reverse to who ???
You guessed it, Marcel Reece.
We’re wasting time with this gimmick BS!
Get a real gawd damn FB and run those plays for the real playmakers!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:37 am
JC to Chaz for a 1st dn!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:48 am
BIG PF penalty on Houston for 15 yds and a 1st dn. Would’ve been 3rd and 8.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Sounds like Hue Jackson isn’t trying to build a bully, but build a smoke and mirrors offense with all that stuff.
Biggest issue with Hue last year was being way too cute at times.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:52 am
In essence it is a 3/4 but in a 4/3 look you have a LB playing DE I don’t know if he’s standing up or in a 3pt stance. It’s just a dime D Jhill they’re trying to put a D to cover Dallas Clark who plays like a WR. It’s not a bad scheme if we execute. We couldn’t get a rush on Manning in that game we never even touched him.
Sometimes it’s not the scheme just getting outplayed. Even when we blitzed it didn’t get there. So you tip your hat and move on.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:52 am
3rd and 17 PI on CJ37 was a killer. And it was a good call.
Bad defense to be in press coverage with that far to go for a 1st down.
Bad call Marshall!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:54 am
And of course Branch gets beat on the next play for a TD.
Should’ve been off the field.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Guys Payton Manning forces you to do things you don’t want to do. I’m not sure what look the defense was getting are they in 3 or 4 wides or 2 TE’s?
June 26th, 2011 at 8:58 am
In essence it is a 3/4 but in a 4/3 look you have a LB playing DE I don’t know if he’s standing up or in a 3pt stance.
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Stop it.
I told you on several occasions the guy is playing on a 4 man line. He is NOT playing OLB.
I don’t like the players on the field and what they are being asked to do. You can call it a 3/4, dime, or whatever you feel comfortable with.
Stan Routt should not be covering the slot scrub WR. Routt has NEVER been good covering the slot.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:01 am
2 TEs.
Tamme is having a field day.
So are the RBs when Manning checks down to a run.
Damn a gimmick defense Priest. We need to have Manning adjusting to us, not the other way around.
ONE LB the WHOLE game?
Insane!
June 26th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Jhill it’s just a nickle D man, we see it every game on 3rd down we bring in Kam as a edge rusher against that team it’s the right call. but you have to execute and we didn’t. Simple they won the chest match.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Why are we running a nickle D against 2TE sets?
Why is CJ37 on the outside against Garcon instead of Routt?
June 26th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I agree with you though, we did lose the chess match.
Marshall made the wrong move going with Houston at DT and Wimbley DE. He should’ve just subbed Henderson for Seymour and left Wimbley at LB to attack the LOS.
On top of that, putting Routt on the slot guy was mistake.
Bad chess moves!
June 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am
The advantage the Colts have over every other team almost is that Dallas Clark plays like a WR you cannot cover him with a LB even a safety he runs routes like a WR and he’s quick and fast. He creats matchup problems for every team. We tried to go with a quicker faster D and they ran at us. We couldn’t tackle Rhodes to save our lives. They win……….period
June 26th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Clark is not out there
June 26th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The most frustrating part of that game to me is we didn’t stick with the run ourselves. We should’ve lined up and shoved Bush and DMC down Indy’s throat and ate up clock. But for some reason we just didn’t or couldn’t run on them.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:27 am
and on the 3 WR sets, it’s some rookie #15.
Collie was out, Clark, was out, Addia played limited snaps. Tamme should not be looking like Clark. Routt should not be covering a no named rookie in the slot while CJ is getting beat by Garcon on the outside.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Well who’s the 2 TE’s?
June 26th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Jhill you’re saying he shouldn’t but CJ has to do the job that was his spot. I’m not sure CJ can play the slot either. We just got out executed in that game we were the better team IMO. We just didn’t play well.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:29 am
We couldn’t tackle Rhodes to save our lives.
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Because we only had 1 LB on the field.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Peyton Manning has made a career out of winning chess matches against his opponent. He is legendary for it.
You think John Marshall is going to out-think one of the greatest thinkers the game has ever had??
LMAO!!
June 26th, 2011 at 9:32 am
If we put 2 or 3 LB’s Manning will just air it out. They ‘re a hard team to defend you have to take your chances I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m saying that may not have worked either. They just run great routes and catch the ball. You have to shorten the game and run on them an dwe didn’t.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:34 am
JFB Come on man it’s not like that at all. Marshall didn’t play one down, IMO we didn’t play well…………it’s as simple as that.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:35 am
361.priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Well who’s the 2 TE’s?
I’d have to go back to see. Since the end of the 2nd qtr, it’s been3 WRs with Tamme at TE and #15 in the slot.
So far, 4 minutes into the 3rd qtr they are running the same 3 WRs.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Raiders couldn’t even cover Tamme, though. Clark was injured. They kept putting Routt on the inside against Tamme and Tamme beat him several times.
Running game couldn’t get off the ground, offensive line couldn’t protect or run block… that game was awful.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:37 am
It’s dangerous to blitz Payton so you have to cover and that’s what we did. But CJ couldn’t hold his man and we couldn’t get to Payton. Also we missed a THOUSAND tackles.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Nice 15 yd run by Bush called back due to a hold on Reece. Attempt at the block was laughable.
We need a real FB!
Next play, 2nd and 23, we call a quick sidline out to Ford for a nice 4 yd gain, lol.
WTF!!!!
Next play, Zach Miller escorts Mathis to JC who grabs JCs arm as he’s trying to get a pass off.
Yeah, Priest, we didn’t play well.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:46 am
They kept putting Routt on the inside against Tamme and Tamme beat him several times.
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Nah, it was Mitchell on Tamme getting beat like a drum. They also had McClain on him a couple time and that matchup went 50-50.
Routt was getting beat on crossing routes through traffic. And he got a VERY questionable PI called against him the 3rd qtr. #15 didn’t do much.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Nice throw and catch to DHB. 2nd time today, no drops.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:49 am
McClain got his hands on two balls that resulted in INT’s.
If it weren’t for those plays, we might have lost by 20.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am
JFB Come on man it’s not like that at all. Marshall didn’t play one down, IMO we didn’t play well…………it’s as simple as that.
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Priest, I was actually making that point to agree with what you were saying about Peyton.
He puts every DC at a disadvantage, because he is one step ahead of them (at least in the regular season), instead of them being step ahead of him.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:55 am
I’ve watched Routt more this offseason than any before and I’m telling ya’ I see why Mr Davis gave him the money. He takes the best WR almost game in game out. Nnamdi takes his side the opposing team sends their better WR’s at Routt and CJ. CJ is up and down but Routt is very consistent and play at a very high level game in game out. I don’t think Routt gets half the credit he deserves. He makes more plays than CJ and Nnamdi put together.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:57 am
JFB cool!
We just didn’t play well as a team in that game. I think we had just gotten the news that we were out of the Playoffs and then we played and it showed.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:09 am
CJ gets burnt and gets a lot of penalties, but he does get his INT’s, and is pretty good with the ball in his hands on the returns.
I think there may be a slight possibility of him switching to FS in a few years.
Good ball skills.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:12 am
One thing I missed were those deep opportunities against the cover 2. I’d be happy to have you guys point it out to me.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:15 am
JFB I have to disagree CJ is a corner only IMO he’s starting to turn the corner and become a much better corner he is soo freakin fast and quick you wonder why he doesn’t play with more confidence and take more chances because with his speed and quickness he caould be very good. He’s biult like a prototype corner size and speed but at times he just doesn’t play with the confidence that he needs to.
In the last 2 years Routt has shown that he can man up with anybody and hold his own. He talked more smack to Bowe than probably anyone and he still shut him down. Awesome display.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:20 am
It’s amazing to me that Indy can plug in almost anyone at the rec spot and that O still clicks on all cylinders. Manning get’s everyone involved!
It’s been a while since i seen that game, but as i recall, didn’t they run it down our throats with Brown at rb? We anticapted heavy pass as any team would facing Manning.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:22 am
We let Rhodes run all over us, and we didn’t stick with the run the way we should’ve. We were always in 3rd and long.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I’m kind of anxious to see the 2 young cb’s play. Al usually is pretty good at evaluating corners. We all know he likes corners and it’s not a coincidence we drafted so many the past few years. Namndi is good as gone!
June 26th, 2011 at 10:27 am
RBs are always going to “run all over us” if we go with Wimbley-Houston-Kelly-ShoNasty and ONE LB.
I guess we were “giving them that”.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:27 am
I forgot about Rhodes. Not sure why we get away from that run game sometimes. Especially with those quick a$$ DE’s that they have in Indy.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I’m kind of anxious to see the 2 young cb’s play.
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Who, Ware and McFadden?
June 26th, 2011 at 10:30 am
The speed of Freeney and Mathis is what derailed the run game. None of the off-tackle runs worked. A lot of the blame for that falls on the offensive tackles, but it was definitely a team loss.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Not sure why we get away from that run game sometimes.
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We hardly got away from the run game.
There was a lot of run, run, dropped pass punt.
A lot of 2nd and really longs and 3rd and really longs. Can’t run out of those scenarios.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:35 am
DVD and that kid from Ohio St. Not starting obviously… I wish this lock out would end soon so we can see what we got in these younger guys.
Ware and Mcfadden i need to see more out of, and i’m sure they’ll get more reps this preseason if we have one of course.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:43 am
J Hill How do you watch the games from last season? Is there a website that has any older games? I know you can watch them live on p2p4u.net but doesn’t help me now.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:46 am
I have about 8 games still on DVR from during the season. I have Sunday Ticket so I get all the games.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am
The Ticket is a great investment, i’m gonna have to look into getting it soon! I usually hit up Buffalo wild wings which is in walking distance from my house. Only thing i hate about Wild wings is they always have the Raider games on the smaller screens unless they play a regional team..Atl, Tampa, Miami or the Jags.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:56 am
‘Sup fellas.
Vegas, JHill..wish I still had that Indy game on DVR so I could join in film study session. I’m envious. lol.
I remember me and you disagreed about that game Vegas. You said JC just padded his stats in garbage time. I said that game was too close and competitive to engage in any stat padding. It was close throughout. halftime, end of 3rd. Indy scored with about five mins to go to pull ahead by 12.
JC took them on a long drive against soft Indy coverage, but still. They scored and were going for an onside kick at 2 min warning, only down five. Coulda backfired on the Colts.
JC didn’t have a great game by any means. IMO, but padding your stats would’ve been Orton in the Bronco blowout, if he’d scored a few meaningless TD’s and picked up garbage yards late, in a lopsided loss. Down 35-3 in 4th. That’s all I’m saying.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
One way to look at that game in a positive light, is that the Raiders didn’t play particularly well that day, and were still able to hang with one of the AFC elites. There are no moral victories, but still.
The Raiders had to be a lil dejected, they’d learned right before kickoff that they’d been eliminated from playoff contention. They still came out and played hard and hung right with the Colts.
The Colts might have been a lil banged up, with a depleted WR corps, but who isn’t that time of year. They were in a dogfight for their div. I believe they played Jax the following week for the title. A loss in Oakland would’ve been devestating.
Even though Oak didn’t even play that well, they held one of the greatest QB’s in NFL history to a 50% passer. The Colts are still one of the 3 or 4 best teams in the AFC , if not league. They were the defending AFC champions last year.
The Raiders played a kinda crappy game and still hung right with ‘em. So maybe they are a lot closer to being a legitimate contender, than even a lot of Raiders fans realize.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Just watched JFord on a reverse in the Broncos game. Man that kids is so freakin fast it’s funny watching guys try to run with him.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:12 am
How in hell did Routt and Huff let a TD pass go through both of them for a TD in that game.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:24 am
How in hell did Routt and Huff let a TD pass go through both of them for a TD in that game.
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Because Jesus was throwing the ball
June 26th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I used to go down to the casino’s in Vegas and watch all the Raider games, but the big issue was that it rarely was the marquee game, so I never got the audio of the game.
It was nice this past year with the ticket, and to know what the hell was going on.
I remember being the casino for the Raider-SD game in SD, with that Vincent Jackson play, where he got up and spun the ball, but it wasn’t ruled a fumble because it was an illegal foward pass or something.
I was so confused what the hell was going on without any audio, lol.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:29 am
We are going to have to expect some weird things with playing against Tebow, and probably getting some bogus calls against us when playing him.
Just the way it is going to be.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Buckeye,
NFLN is showing the game tomorrow on replay, at 11:30 am MST.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:31 am
So you’re saying it was divine intervention. lol.
That’s not fair. The Broncos have the lord on their side? That gives them a distinct competitive advantage.
What about all the christians on the other teams? jesus just loves them a lil less when they play Denver.
That should be against the rules.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Glad Jhill admitted Henderson needs to be on field. Many of Indy’s good run came that day with Hendu not on field. I saw Bryant out there alot too in the middle. Colts outplayed us that day. It was actually a good loss because it made team real angry for KC
June 26th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Oh yeah….be afraid Western Conference! Warriors made big moves!
June 26th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I wanted Alec Burks at SG but he didnt wanna work out for W’s…..oh well. I like Klay Thompson….wet jumper, high bball iq, deceptive athleticism, nba genes and 6′7………bye monta!
June 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Glad Jhill admitted Henderson needs to be on field. Many of Indy’s good run came that day with Hendu not on field.
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Cut it out!
I’ve said on many occasions that Hendu should have played more but didn’t because he was INJURED!
I still have no problem with Kelly and Seymour out there at DT, but Seymour was on the sidelines HURT!
There were at least 3 plays in that game where Hendu was in the lineup on 3rd and 2 or so, and they ran right at him for 1st dns.
I’ll certainly point them out for you on Monday, if you like.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Charles Jenkins is an excellent pick in 2nd round. Guy has that new york swagger and can play both guard spots. He will learn from a great PG now coach and backup Curry
June 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am
When JFB starts getting racial, perhaps this can give some insight as to why:
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Jhill…..Hendu has a 90 pct success rate vs run…..and u see what he did next week vs KC? Charles had one big run and Big John aced that shhht
June 26th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Back to Warriors….and last but not least we got Jeeremy Tyler. Seen the kid since he was 15 playing AAUs….got major game at 6′11 260 at 19 yrs of age
June 26th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
MR….i like Sac Kings draft…..Jimmer, Evans, Honeycut,Thompson and Cousins would provide the size and scoring needed in west
June 26th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Mornin every one, or good afternoon depending on where you are, heck, could even be good evening to some. Sure cannot wait to get this season underway and HueJack can do his thing!
June 26th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Lakers run is over….Clippers on the rise….Sac and GSW just made major come ups…..There is shakeups going down in Pacific division
June 26th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Bauce what kind of player is Klay?
June 26th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Warrior games always amongst the best as far as fans and atmosphere go. Can you imagine our place now? We gonnaa play real basketball finally. We gonna have damn near best perimeter play in NBa and having Udoh and Tyler downlow will only help that out
June 26th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
BHP…..jimmy jimmy coco pop! Super range super wet….can create own shot. Can drive and make athletic moves to cup! Will instantly be one of better shooters in NBA…..defense needs work
June 26th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
398.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 11:29 am
We are going to have to expect some weird things with playing against Tebow, and probably getting some bogus calls against us when playing him.
Just the way it is going to be.
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Why limit that to Tebow. Al Davis’ Raiders get weird and bogus calls all the frickin time, all frickin season long. Remember fat boy sarahgoose body slam Gannon? Was there a ejection for that? Brayton kneeing big mouth and he’s tossed. Oh Yes. Weird and bogus calls all the time.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
BHP klay is basically a more athletic Reggie Miller
June 26th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Considering the way Al feels about Gannon, you have to wonder if he paid the refs not to eject Siragusa.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I thought the move made sense I just can’t wait til summer league starts to see the kid play. At his size he gives us the perfect 2 for big teams and can swing to play 3 G’s it makes a lot of sense. The Logo got his way on this one.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Brien, Maloofs are finally going to go after free agents again, too. Did you see Gavin all but admit that they were penny pinching in anticipation of a move? Soon as its official that they’re staying, “Oh, and the best part is, we have a ton of cap space”. Why wasn’t that so great, say, the day beforehand? lol
June 26th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Curry-Thompson-Wright-Udoh-Tyler…….wooooooh yeah Laker fans be afraid now. Lee Biedrins and Ellis will be moved. Got Jenkins, Reggie and Thornton off the bench! Trust we will get two more OG BENCH PLAYERS….hell we may even go after Kaman or NeNe
June 26th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I’ve been telling homerish kings fans the past 5 years that the Maloofs are holding out. they would shake their heads, stick their fingers in their ears, and repeat, “we have good draft picks, we have good draft picks, we have good draft picks”. total denial. Just like the hard core Davis worshippers in the Raider Nation.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
417.RAIDER Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Considering the way Al feels about Gannon, you have to wonder if he paid the refs not to eject Siragusa.
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Bit of a stretch. I would like to think Al wanted to win that game and that their falling out was well after the body slam. But much stranger things have happened, like Tampa Bay removing Gannon from the game makes you wonder who was pissed about the Super Bowl loss.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
MR…i just know Kings will be able to score this season
June 26th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
No nba summer league….sux due to lockout
June 26th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
When you think of DWright size at 6′9″ and Klay at 6′7″ that is excellent size on the perimeter. I think Curry is closer to 6′4″ his brother is 6′5″ and his dad was 6′5″
June 26th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I vision going to Coliseum in november to see Raiders win and then same night Warriors play! So fk the cops that day tellin the Bauce he gotta leave and he cant get drunk anymore! They dont empty lot when both teams play
June 26th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Oakland Coliseum<——best venue for sports baby!
June 26th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Excuse me Oakland Coliseum-Arena
June 26th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Just like the hard core Davis worshippers in the Raider Nation.
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Article 17, paragraph 3 Revision 2.25 of the Raider Nation Manual of Raider Nation clearly states that “all members must admire (notice not the worship word here) Al Davis for all he has done in his fabulous career”
Subsequent articles go on to list all of Al Davis’ achievements and accomplishments. And there are many.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Curry 6′3…..but he bout to get married….kinda dumb for that but he is a star in the making……LA be afraid…we at u b-tches
June 26th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
BHP they need to start Udoh at the 4. He gets better each time he plays. Bauce’s little cousin played vs him in big 12 conference. Said that guy is a player
June 26th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Come on western conference foes….what are ya gonna do now? youre fawked! game over man!……Warriors got wettest jimmies at backcourt in nba. Curry for 3 and Klay from deep…..BANG! CANT WAIT!
June 26th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Halladay just crusin on the A’s.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
warrior games got beezies galore 2. monta aint goin nowhere cuz of klay. they will either keep or trade monta cuz they want 2. monta needs to stay. we need his speed and quickness to the rim with these outside shooters to go along with tyler and udoh inside. i expect us to sign some big men in FA. we needed more scoring cuz we had nothing on the bench. this also makes reggie williams strictly a 2 and that hofstra guard looks tuff. u can say goodbye to lin now. the G rotation is set and now we have a swingman to backup dorrell not to mention thorton if we bring him back which we should.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Yeah Halladay with ease is dominating our punch and judy hitters
June 26th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
What’s the point in keeping Monta? Klay and Jenkins are both rookies who need to be on the floor. Monta takes away from thier time. You not winning a title with Monta as your SG
June 26th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Monta is a sixth man
June 26th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
And Armond…monta has no chance guarding SGs at 6′2 170 lol
June 26th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Curry-Klay-Dorrell-Udoh-Tyler……..BANNNNNNG!
June 26th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
u trade monta if u get some really good players. u talk about who he can guard but who guards him? those guys are rookies and monta is proven. u have your opinion of him which is different than mine. these moves were made for depth. if the right deal for monta comes along then we shall see. there is no need to be in a hurry to get rid of a talent like him. stop blaming him cuz the team sucked. they improved by 10 games with only 5 players. he was a big reason for it. lets continue to get him some help.
June 26th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
he aint a 6th man either. we need a new fuggin front court. until we get some more depth im not makin a decision on this. monta & steph outscored about 75% of opposing backcourts. the rest of the team hardly backed them up. yes andris must go. dlee was underwhelming but nobody is takin that contract. we neeed some athletic bigs who can run and score around the rim. how about somebody other than udoh blocking some shots?
June 26th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Curry-Thompson-Wright-Udoh-Tyler…….wooooooh yeah Laker fans be afraid now.
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Not impressed.
June 26th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Bauce i gotta see Klay get down b4 I even think about gettin ridda Monta… That’s some serious hype u puttin’ on Klay. Replacing Monta is not easy he destroys zones like no one else. You saw what a zone can do to a penetrater in the finals they shut Wade and james down. Monta’s speed slices right through that. Monta is the single most underrated player in the NBA. You heard what Kobe said about #8 and Kobe don’t throw around platitudes on nobody.
Be absolutely sure b4 you make moves like that. Get me Bynum and we’ll break bread and make it happen.
June 26th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
But to be honest I would like to see the W’s stand pat and get Greg Odom as a URFA sign to some big $$$ incentive laden contract and just roll. I think we can challenge then we would be 2 deep at every position then. We could even keep sorry Andries as insurance.
June 26th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Jhill we spanked the Lakers at the end of the season. I was supposed to go to that game and got tied up. We shut them boys down. The look on Kobe’s face said it all.
June 26th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
priesttj Says:
June 24th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Big Al doesn’t operate like most GM’s he’s going to give a player what he thinks he’s worth irregrads to what everyone else thinks. Signing one player has zero to do with signing another. Unless we’re overstocked at s particular position. We could end up with all of them.
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Arguably the dumbest comment ever posted on this board.
No, I take it back.
It’s EASILY THE DUMBEST COMMENT EVER POSTED ON THIS BOARD.
You, Old Man, and a complete babbling baffoon.
June 26th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Tony,post446,not sure what you couldnt understand about Tjs post! Simply saying that if Al wants you on the Raiders, You will stay a RAIDER,period.Same thing Greg Papa has said for years now!Just sayin
June 26th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Confuscious say man with two heads better think twice.
June 26th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
in 2o12, the warriors will still put up 100pts a night, and still give up 105. lol
June 26th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
luv my Raiders, but who’s more unproven, raiders projected o-line, veld,loper,wiz,carlisle, & barksdale, or warriors starting 5.
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June 26th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
in all hopes, the o-line wins by a big margin.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
My biggest concern of this current Raiders roster is obviously the o-line with the inexpierence and the poor pass protection we’ve already had.
Second would be the secondary, minus huff and aso, very young and raw cb’s, routt a #1, mitchell a starter, branch a fs? flip flop with o-line concern.
Last would be the Lb position, Mcclain has to make a major leap to make up for Wimbley and whoever we might have on the other side.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
What makes you think that’s the W’s starting 5?
June 26th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
just very unproven
June 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
How much experience do you want the secondary to have?? Routt-7th; CJ-8th ; Branch-4th; MM34-3rd every starter has at least 2 years in the league. That’s about as old as I would like them and then we have experience in the depth with Eugene, Brown, Ware and McFadden. Everybody has at least 1 year experience. That’s not too shabby. Very solid if you ask me. If we sign either Nnamdi or Huff even better.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
i love both rookie corners one is very physical and the other is dman near a Routt clone.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Branch will prob line up as our starting FS, 1st yr, Mitchell 1st yr starter at SS. Routt and CJ aside, youth. Dont get me wrong i like the upside but how will it go early on.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
I loved how Routt and CJ stepped up in games without #21, but what happens when 1 or the 2 of them are out for a game.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Same thing that happens anyones starters are out the backups have to step up. The key is are they talented if so you have something. Now rookies can be fooled but we go 4 deep b4 we get that far. And let me tell ya’ Chekwa and DVD aren’t slouches they’re just young. Last year Ware played as well as most rookies McFadden was injured but what i saw from him inn preseason I know this kid can play.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
The longer the lockout the more it’ll benefit the Raiders defensively since we all know the scheme is the same.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Games will probably rely more on individual performances than being perfectly orchestrated schemes.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
i love both rookie corners one is very physical and the other is dman near a Routt clone.
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Father Pride & Poise, your problem is you’re easily impressed by this team. You’re a true fanatic, an uncritical acolyte, an aficionado (somebody stop me for crying out loud), and consequently your insights into the true strengths and weaknesses of the team the Old Creeper built is not reliable. You say you “like what you see.” Fair enough. But, to be fair, what you see is likely another 8-8, or perhaps 9-7 team with glaring weaknesses along both lines, weaknesses at wide receiver, weaknesses at safety, and–most damning–weaknesses in overall philosophy, which is of course the Davis Way of Doing Things, which has relegated this team to also ran status for over 20 years.
You and your like on this blog offer Nothing in the way of unique or perceptive insights into this team. You’re a wishful thinker, a soldier, a gofer, but you’re no deep thinker pal. When I read your bs my eyes glaze over. But when I read a good jab at the Old Creeper you know what? I get a frickin hard on. Because that’s close to the truth numnuts.
June 26th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Mcfadden’s hamstring injury really stunted his development last yr. Rookie pt 2
June 26th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
OhioRaider We’ll both see and I’ll be here to own up to mine will you? or wil you find anothe rhandle to hide behind?
I don’t predict records becuase of the injury factor, and to think you know what kind of team we have is foolish. FA period hasn’t even taken place and there have been zero cuts and no preseason. How can you gage anything? Sure I like certain players and think we can do well but only time will tell………..so all your supposed conclusions don’t matter. Right now everything is conjecture. But I like what I see whether you agree or not………it’s a personal opinion just disagree and move on.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
New Post,fellas
June 28th, 2011 at 4:45 am
Personally, I still ain’t convinced that Nnamdi will leave .. it will all depend on how much he wants to win. I still think Al will value him more highly in $$$$$ than any other team. After all, how many teams play more man than we do?
I’d also be pretty surprised if Al wants to totally trust Chris Johnson, or a first or second year player. We have two rookie corners and two second year ones, neither of whom look like getting much of a training camp etc.. it’s too much of a risk.
The argument that we did not win with Nnamdi so will somehow be better without him is nonsense, IMO.
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