Nnamdi checks in at No. 18
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, June 26th, 2011 at 7:54 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Great segment on the NFL Network’s Top 100 series on Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, who ended up ranked No. 18 by his peers in ranking the league’s top 100 players.
Denver wide receiver Brandon Lloyd, one of the NFL’s better talkers when in the mood, “presented” Asomugha well, and the NFL Network did its usual terrific job with clips to support the ranking.
For what it’s worth, Asomugha was ranked as a better player than Philadelphia’s Michael Vick (No. 20) but just behind Baltimore’s Haloti Ngata (17) and former Raider Charles Woodson (No. 16).
Asomugha’s street cred was in evidence, particularly in clips involving wide receiver Brandon Marshall, who at one point bemoaned Asomugha’s long arms and later couldn’t believe Michael Huff had arrived in some form of late double coverage because “Nnamdi, he’s the best in the league, man!.”
I’ve made this point before, but I’ll do it again now. For all of Asomugha’s excellence, how much did it really help the Raiders’ bottom line?
Play man-to-man defense as much as the Raiders, and he’s essentially covering 20 percent of the eligible receivers, giving the quarterback 80 percent of the field to work with. So let’s have none of the “Nnamdi takes away half the field” nonsense that seems to arise regularly.
Many smarter people than myself, however, will line up to pay him big bucks at the conclusion of the NFL work stoppage, and actually I’m looking forward to seeing Asomugha play for someone else.
Not because I want him gone. The guy is a class act and a delight in every way to deal with, and unparalleled as a cover cornerback.
From a distance, I want to see Asomugha in a situation when he’s not locked on a receiver all the time, if he can come off his man and gamble, or break on the ball in a zone and make a play. He probably can do it, it’s just that we’ve seldom seen it because of the way the Raiders play defense.
I can assure you he’s cast an admiring glance at what happened to Woodson in Green Bay. The two talk often, and any discussion regarding Woodson over the past two years has resulted in only a Cheshire cat grin from Nnamdi when asked about how he would fare in a different system given the opportunity to make more plays.
As for those of you who think he may remain in Oakland, the day the Raiders paid big money to Stanford Routt and Richard Seymour meant Asomugha was probably headed out the door. Not because Al Davis doesn’t like or value Asomugha, but because he doesn’t value him as much as other teams are going to value him.
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June 26th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Asomugha is a strange bird. Brilliant coverage skills, but not a playmaker. We need playmakers who can change the dynamics of a game with a big hit or interception, and Asomugha seemed to be saving himself for the next stage of his career. Good riddance.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Nice knowing ya!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
The Raider defense would benefit the most if the lockout drags onto training camp, season? All offenses rely on timing and execution, of course, but with new schemes, players, limited reps, etc. Raider D just has to lace ‘em up and beat the man in front of ‘em. As always preached.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
T- Hoe ACL surgery, out forever!
June 26th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
All I want as a retirement present from the USN is the declaration that the CBA has been approved, and that ol’ Al has locked-up Nnamdi on another long-term deal.
Draft them. Train them. Develop them. Keep them.
It used to be, so some extent, that we had personal-interest stories in issues like this, but these days, everything’s glossed-over and ignored for the chase of the bigger $$.
I want him to stay, because aside from being the best man-cover DB in the league, I want to also take on the mantle of Mr. Raider — the guy that leads. PERSONIFIED. Men in days past over whom we’d swear fealty to.
Nnamdi, you’re that guy! Stay, and be that one brilliant corner that said, “No thanks,” to the URFA $ that’ll be sent your way, get the best you can from ‘ol Al, and stay here. Our HOME. Your HOME, You have a chance to be the longest-lasting Raider icon, the NEW “Face of the Raiders.”
Make HERE your culture, not just a temporary stopover. Give us diehard fans reasons to believe that there’s players in whom we should believe again.
Just stay.
.o2
June 26th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
He values nnamdi plenty he just has the depth that most teams don’t. He didn’t draft two corners in back to back years for nothing he did it for this potential eventuality. You don’t draft 2 of the top 15 corners in the draft just to say you did. Those two kids are better than the two we drafted last year.
The way Routt played the last 2 years gives us a top teir corner and a vet with some excellent depth. It makes it easier to see Nnamdi leave. When you have 6 capable players at that position.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Routt and CJ are better tandem than most teams can put on the field. Cover corners that can play man D the wya they can are hard to come by.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Cj37 has missed way too many games the past 2 seasons.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
With the D-Line we got coming this yr., our secondary could be in for a big year.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
I like both CJ and Routt but it’s easy to see that Routt has way more confidence in his game.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
CJ was great 3 seasons ago (after replacing Hall), not too good the last two seasons. He did have a good game against KC the first time though
June 26th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Cj37’s break out game was @Den, covering Marshall… beastly. Made him mills.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Dang, missed the film study class.
Don’t have the Colt game on tape, but I’ll tell you what I remember.
Raids were anemic on offense. Seem to remember a few opportunities after turnovers, but settled for FG’s.
JHill says Routt wasn’t the main burn victim, and I’ll take his word for it, but it seemed to me that Manning was picking on him. I remember the ‘track star’ Routt getting beat on crossing patterns and I think for a TD by the TE who replaced Clark. He wasn’t even close to breaking up those plays and it seemed ridiculous, given the speed advantage Stanford had.
Don’t even remember the final score of the game, but I do remember the Colts running the clock out instead of taking a sure TD. Didn’t Manning slide down instead of scoring on a bootleg towards the end ?
Wouldn’t say JaJason played a terrible game that day. Typical JaJason, unable to get the ball downfield. Blame it on the rcvrs, no protection, cover-2, whatever. Bottom line is Raids weren’t explosive, couldn’t put together any drives that consumed clock to keep Manning off the field, and didn’t capitalize on some decent opportunities.
On the other side of the ball, Manning seemed to be able to do anything he wanted.
Raids were within a TD with 2 mins to go, but the game really wasn’t that close.
Put Manning on the Raids though, and give the Colts JaJason – and the Raids probably win by 2 TD’S – with the same exact supporting casts.
Al Davis to JaJason after the game: “Why didn’t the ball go downfield more ?”
JaJason: “They played alot of cover-2.”
I’m sure Al was thrilled with that response.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
The game vs the Colts was fishy that we didn’t run more up the gut than going outside so much… of what I remember.
June 26th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
OhioRaider, Nnamdi isn’t a “playmaker” because the ball is rarely thrown to him. How could you not know that? Do you ever watch Raider football?
June 26th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
I believe the last year offenses went after and attacked Nnamdi he had something like 9(thats nine) ints.Saying he isn’t a playmaker is erroneous.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Sometimes due to hatred the thought process fails one. If you’re facing a cover2 especially when it’s either the Steelers or Indy it’s very well played. In order to get the ball deep you need WR’s whom you have supreme confidence in. Or you’ll be throwing into coverage. Ford can beat a cover2 but the QB has to have great confidence and timing with him in order to get it done. I have no complaint about what the QB did in the Colts game I have issues with the Oline not the QB. But as we know there are some who’ll blame this QB for a rainy day.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
I wonder if CJ37 is being thought of as the starter opposite Routt.His play has deteriorated the last couple of years.Hopefully the team believes one of the young guys can be the other starter IF Nnamdi leaves.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Nnamdi is done as a Raider.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I guess Nnamdi’s gone. ‘Jer” Al Davis’ hack, says he’s not worth it.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
What’s up Lefty12?
They just don’t test him how can he make plays unless he took chances that could as easily give up big plays. I have no problem with Nnamdi’s lack of int’s when you can do what he does and he is the very best at it. I have zero complaints.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Why oh why does not the grand architect of all things Raider want to keep the best corner in the game? All suck in Nnamdis’ shadow and only a select few from days gone by could ever carefully his strap. Wake up Mr. Davis and smell the sunshine.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Priest,JC is the QB this year,as he should be.Yet every day you post comments expounding the greatness of JC.It is almost as if you are trying to convince yourself as much as convincing everyone else.We shall see what he is made of this year-if they play any games.As fans we should hope he plays at an elite level.But I must ask,if the season is shortened or camp isn’t like normal,will we be hearing excuses for JC,or will what we see be accepted as that is who he is?I hope he plays so damn well people won’t be able to complain one iota,but if he doesn’t,then what?
June 26th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
*carry
June 26th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Actually,I wonder how much movement there will be in FA this year due to no off-season workouts or OTAs.Teams just might not want to put out the big bucks.FAs just might not have all the options they would have in normal years.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Jerry says he’s covering 20% of the eligible rec’s as if he’s supposed to cover 2 men at a time. Jerry when they say half the field they’re talking about on the second level and they said the same thin g when Deion was shuttin’ down half the field never saw you complain then or what does Revis do that Nnamdi doesn’t? please advise?
Revis gets away with illegal chucks all over the field his hands are all over the rec. they never call it. If Nnamdi touches a guy there’s 3 flags. No one can cover these guys without touching them they are 6′3″+ 210+ lbs. running 4.3’s who can cover these foools for 4 seconds without touching them if you don’t alter there route the wya Revis does it should be allowed.
Revis grabs, holds and pushes rec’s the entire route no wonder he’s considered the best. Allow Nnamdi to do that and he’ll hold guys to 10 catches or less per year. Nnamdi would be sensational in another system just as sensational as he is in this one maybe better.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Nnamdi is the 18th best player so how can the Grand Master Al Davis not keep him?
June 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
J Hill Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
beezies wanna see if dudes can get they eagle on 2.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Would have never pictured the 2 of you as some dancin fools.
I’ll stick to the don’t spill the Henny dance. The BZs know wassup as soon as they get a hug.
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As I’ve told you before…..I figured you was a laya in ya days……cold piece your type is….got a patna just like you….deadly from any range….he was his own wingman
June 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Lefty12 no matter what I say his play is there for everyone to evaluate so why should it matter what I say?
Didn’t make nay excuses for him last year and IO wont this year. I wonder what people will say if he plays well. Will they give him credit or say he had zero to do with the wins like they did last year???
June 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
playa*
June 26th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Hasn’t ‘Jer” in the past doubted the Raiders ability to sign and keep their big name FAs?Hasn’t Davis kept anyone he really wanted to keep?Whether or not Nnamdi returns will be decided by the old guy.Whether or not it is the proper thing to do is a matter of opinion on our parts.Personally,I’d like to see him return.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RaideredoutL.A. Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Nnamdi is done as a Raider.
KoolKell Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I guess Nnamdi’s gone. ‘Jer” Al Davis’ hack, says he’s not worth it.
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BYE NNAMDI…BYE MONTA…..BYE GEREN….its what will make Oakland sports better
June 26th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Lefty12
All anyone ever does is criticise JC but if I have a positive opinion of him I’m making excuses. LOL I have never amde excuses for him I’ve only given him credit for what he did. But I guess that’s “making excuses” as you call it.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Lefty12 Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Actually,I wonder how much movement there will be in FA this year due to no off-season workouts or OTAs.Teams just might not want to put out the big bucks.FAs just might not have all the options they would have in normal years.
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We would get over on FA imo….young team that will just add on…..people like young teams on the rise
June 26th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Lefty12
All anyone ever does is criticise JC but if I have a positive opinion of him I’m making excuses. LOL I have never amde excuses for him I’ve only given him credit for what he did. But I guess that’s “making excuses” as you call it.
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Look if you dont call him a bum youre not being objective okay
June 26th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
BYE NNAMDI…BYE MONTA…..BYE GEREN….its what will make Oakland sports better
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Damn I’d hate if monta leaves w’s, so much fun watching w’s overs with ‘em.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I can’t even count the times people said he had nothing to do with wins but when we lose it was “ALL HIS FAULT”
June 26th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Priest,I’m sure there will be those that will never give the guy any credit,just as there are those who will forever make excuses for him.Whenever people say the QB of any team has little or nothing to do with winning or losing games,they are talking out of the hole where the sun doesn’t shine.What you say does matter to some-those that enjoy talking football and not just coming here for pissing contests.That is why we get along.We don’t always agree but at least we try and keep it civil.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
What’s up Bauce? I can’t understand the distain they have for this guy when he’s hands down the best QB we’ve had in years…
June 26th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
What’s up Bauce? I can’t understand the distain they have for this guy when he’s hands down the best QB we’ve had in years…
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i can agree, but thats not saying much with the past qb’s we’ve had.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
lefty12
I say what I say based on what I see Left, you know that if he stinks I’ll say it. As I did last year, I didn’t start to warm to JC until I saw him lead us back vs SD that was the first time I was actually impressed with the guy. Before that I was very skeptical of him.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Priest,I don’t recall reading you making excuses for JC,but many others have.Hell,I remember last year you wanted him benched like most did.You were with me on saying if he didn’t get his sh!t together,Boller should get a shot.As we have noted before,you are optimistic,while at times I’m pessimistic.Same goes with JC-you see a bright future;I don’t know-I have serious doubts.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
RaideredoutL.A Look they loved Bruce Gradkowski’s dirty draws everything he did they blew it way out of proportion as if he was Kenny Stabler incarnate. But this kid comes in and outplays Grads and they thumb their nose at him.
June 26th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
our o-line pass pro- is a dead end for qb’s.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Lefty12 I was damn near the last guy to join the JC bandwagon. In fact I’m just now realy getting solid behind the guy. Based on what I’m seeing on film and what he’s doing with the team in the offseason. Why do you think I wanted Kappy? Why do you think I want Pryor??
Just in the last 3 weeks I’ve really studied JC and I’m convinced this guy has the tools to be great along with his work ethic I see a guy who could be a top12 QB in this league. It took me a long tim eto warm to JC. I just was giving him credit for the wins he started and played in. It’s only fair!!
June 26th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I will say though that JC does kind of remind me of Plunkett.I remember Plunkett looking and playing,shall we say,like crap,then he puts it together.When the game is over all some want to talk about is his misses while ignoring the fact he lead the team to a victory.Maybe that is what we can get from JC,at least I hope so.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
JC would be perceived totally differently if he hadn’t stunk up the joint in the early games last year.The slide in Tenn.,the stinker in SF,don’t remember the game but the checkdown on the last play of the game when a hail-mary was possible-none of those helped him with the Nation.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
going out on a limb, jc AND our wr’s will be the least of our concerns.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
the sf game ended on a loud thud off of jford’s chest onto a niner Lb’er.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
with at least 1 min left in the game, 4th and 5ish
June 26th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I don’t care how(the SF game) it ended except we were on the short end,but JC stunk that game,plain and simple.LAST year,he wasn’t ready to be the starting QB of the Oakland Raiders.This year there is no question-he is the starting QB of the Oakland Raiders.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
I might add since he is the QB of the Oakland Raiders,i hope he is the best damn QB in the league this year-if there is any football.I can’t stand the fact some root against our own players so they can come here and beat their chests about how they were right and others were wrong.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
A lot of those that comment on here remind me of the pundits on TV and the radio.Whenever they are correct about something you never hear the end of it.Yet when they are wrong,they’ll never own up,that is if they even show their face for a while.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Left I have to agree 100% when he got here he looked liek he had the weight of the world on his shoulders he didn’t really relax and play until the second half of the year. I think even he was embarrassed about the SF loss. I just rewatched the Broncos game in Denver he came out hot. Took us right down the field the first drive and the Denver emploded but he was ready from the opening gun. I really looked at this kid with a critical eye recently and I’m impressed he’s better than I ever gave him credit for. The KC home game really shows his moxey. He started off slow and when it got competitive he got better. I was impressed.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
He had the weight of the world on his shoulders? Priest, define your best the term “professional football quarterback”, and tell me that being able to perform while having said weight of world on said shoulder is not a requirement for the job. Have you ever been inside of an NFL stadium? Every flippin’ QB in the league has the weight of the world on their shoulder.
June 26th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
I refuse to speculate on what he thought or how he felt.He did play better toward the end of the year.Lets hope he continues to get better and better the longer he is our QB.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Only time will tell, so we’ll see….
June 26th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Priest,you shouldn’t take it so hard when people bad mouth JC.The negative comments are no worse than the negative BS thrown out there about many of the other players.People on here complain about Nnamdi,Seymour,Kelly,Carlisle,Veldheer,etc.It seems pretty obvious the coaches don’t adhere to such criticism.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
I try not to, I guess it’s due to the same stuff I’ve heard for may years about black QB’s. But I myself wasn’t that high on the guy until late in the year. It’s just that people act as if he was ssoooo much worse than Grads that really got me going. But that is all pastense now. I’ve really started to just let the guys game speak for itself. If he turns out great, if not we move on……………….period
As I said tho, I’ve been mostly impressed as of late.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
His color doesn’t bother me,it is the fact he is from the SEC-I don’t trust QBs from that conference.They aren’t coached to be pro QBs and once they develop the habits they form in college,it is extremely difficult to break those bad habits.Most,it seems,never do,hence the lack of success of QBs from there.And to those that will say what about this guy or that guy,I said most.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Hope you Raiders fans had a good weekend. My was great while I wait for the out come of the negociations. Nothing concrete has been leaked out and we’re still in a holding pattern.
I had a good day at Hollywood Park Saturday and a decent day at Huntington Beach on Sunday. Huntington is a great beach, Ruby’s on the pier, great water and sand, showers and cleans restrooms, rentals of almost everything, fire pits and volleyball courts, waves with good size, lifeguard every 100 yards in their towers…and, most important, hundreds of beautiful women. If you’re cool and careful about it, you can have your cold beer..just don’t flant it. Ya, the beach was great but I’ll give it all up come football season, at least most of the time. Good to have the NFL ticket with Direct TV and the record button.
Go Raiders…and if it’s a 18 game season, I figure we go 11-7 and 10-6 if it’s 16 games. Good nite gents.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
I don’t know Lefty12 you remember Stabler came from the SEC, so did Cutler. So did both Mannings, it’s a matter of how the guy was coached. It is very true with Black QB’s though they don’t seem to get the coaching they need to be successful passers until they get to the NFL. The colleges use their athleticism against them and put them in offenses they utilize them as athletes first. I can’t blame them because it works and they win. But it stunts their growth and they get to the NFL unprepared to compete at a high level. Look at Pryor I’ll gauarntee you’ve spent more time with a QB coach than he has. Now he’ll get coached up but he’s 3 years behind.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Not because Al Davis doesn’t like or value Asomugha, but because he doesn’t value him as much as other teams are going to value him.
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Maybe but have to admit, Davis values the lock down corner most of all and frankly because of everything Jerry mentioned about Oaklands penchant for man cover.
Everyone said no way NNamdi AND Lechler stayed but…
June 26th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
62.priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
I don’t know Lefty12 you remember Stabler came from the SEC, so did Cutler. So did both Mannings, it’s a matter of how the guy was coached. It is very true with Black QB’s though they don’t seem to get the coaching they need to be successful passers until they get to the NFL. The colleges use their athleticism against them and put them in offenses they utilize them as athletes first. I can’t blame them because it works and they win. But it stunts their growth and they get to the NFL unprepared to compete at a high level. Look at Pryor I’ll gauarntee you’ve spent more time with a QB coach than he has. Now he’ll get coached up but he’s 3 years behind.
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Seriously don’t think teams will try him at QB. The athleticism you mentioned means he’ll play WR or TE when the Raiders get him
June 26th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Priest,I don’t think we can compare the older QBs from that conference to those of the modern era-Snake,Broadway Joe,and others.I do agree about the coaching in the SEC and not just of black QBs-I’d say most of the QBs aren’t coached properly.Tim T. wasn’t properly coached.The Mannings had their father.The conference isn’t conducive to pro QBs.Besides,in the old days you could draft a guy on potential and train him.Now,that is pretty difficult to do.By the time you properly coach them up,they become FAs and can move on.I wonder if Snake would have made it in todays game.He was sent home for a year,then was coached up for a few more.Can teams really afford to do that now-a-days?
June 26th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
V.Young is a perfect example.If they could have let him sit and learn for 3-4 years the guy would probably be one hell of a QB.But they couldn’t so now he is a total head case.Also,part of the problem is when these kids come out of high school,they want to start right off the bat.They don’t realize if they went to a pro style offensive team and sat and learned a year or two,they’d be better off in the long run.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Top 10 excuses for JaJason:
10. Saunder’s playbook too complex.
9. Tried to do too much in contract year.
8. Worried Hue might bench him again.
7. Boller was looking over his shoulder.
6. Those cover-2 defenses are tough.
5. Found out BHP was on his bandwagon.
4. JaMarcus Russell’s Uncle died.
3. Had the weight of the world on his shoulders.
2. Found a bottle of Viagra belonging to Louis Murphy in his GF’s apartment.
And the number 1. JaJason excuse…
1. Thought Al Davis said ‘the next skunk’.
June 26th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
It would be hard to say what would have became of blacks in America if they were given reparations like the Jews. But, you know what they say. Squeaky wheel. Doesn’t hurt to have that light complected skin, either.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:02 am
R99-if by some chance JC turns into the QB people like Priest envision,will you come here and admit day after day how wrong you were?Will you support him since he is the QB of the team you root for or will you forever hold something against the guy?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:05 am
I can see that, it’s counterproductive the way they’re doing things in college now you can’t evenscout a guy because ge’s not doing anything he’ll do in the NFL. I watched Pryor and I just had to project everything his skill level is terrible it’s highschool level. He should be at least doing some procession but he does NONE. He reads one guy and takes off. The same is true with Kappy as well as Cam Newton. It’s damn near criminal.
All they are are guys who were so athletic defenses couldn’t stop them because of the threat of the run.
I remember scouting JC at Auburn he was similar to Rodgers in that he played from the pocket and he wasn’t just running all the time altough he could he was very mobile. I was impressed with him at Auburn but had not paid much attention to him since. I tried to sell him to the Raiders as a low 1st high 2nd he was undefeated at Auburn a much better QB than Cam Newton. But things have changed a lot how Cam was drafted #1 overall is insane to me. But I just tell it like I see it.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Just wanted to save you the time of having to type those at a future date, Priestt.
Lefty, who would you like to see the Raids bring in to backup JC, just in case your doubts about him are realized ?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:09 am
The thing with Pryor is he did play at a school that coached the pro style game.That is why I’m against him.He isn’t any more ready for the pros today than the day he came out of HS-as far as being a QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Lefty, I’ve said many times I hope JC makes me eat crow.
Anytime he’s does well I’m happy to give him credit.
I never root against the Raiders.
But if I think a player isn’t any good, I’m not going to sugarcoat things.
I’m convinced JaJason is a stiff.
You think I enjoyed watching JaMoron fail, just bcz I kept telling BHP he sucked and BHP disagreed ?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Preistt, are you claiming you were once a scout for the Raiders ?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:17 am
R99 you’re lying man, You do root against the guy and you know it. You want him to fail admit it. You have never given that kid credit for a damn thing except whatever he didn’t do. At least be honorable man. You don’t like the kid…period
June 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Where are you getting this from??? are you on something??
June 27th, 2011 at 12:19 am
R99-I don’t know,laugh but probably Leinert-because he is still young and has been humbled- or Gerrard-who would hopefully outperform Boller if needed.You could also throw Hasselback in there too.Whoever it is,he shouldn’t see the field except for injury.We should give JC the whole year and live with however it turns out.No musical QBs.Pick someone and stick with him.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:21 am
Preistt, tell me more about how you scouted JC at Auburn.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Leinert ?
Tell me you’re joking.
C’mon Lefty, Gradkowski has got a cannon compared to Leinert.
Leinert throws helium balls. Will not be on an NFL roster again.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am
What’s to tell I scouted him as I do anywhere from 25 to 75 players every year. It’s what i do I’ve been doing it for 30 years I’m what people call a draftnik. You play Madden I scout.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am
I do like Gerrard though.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:31 am
Leinert-Lefty-get it,I have a soft spot for southpaws.Besides,I don’t think he is as bad as a lot on here do.His arm is as good as or better than Brees.He is very intelligent albeit immature.If he grows up he could become a decent pro QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Oh, I thought you actually ’scouted’ him. As in went to visit Auburn, watch him play in person. Talked with his coaches. Watched practice. Spoke with the prospect.
Preistt, why do your posts always reek of trying to be something you’re not ?
You do realize you come off as claiming to be a paid professional scout, when you claim you scouted JC when he was at Auburn and tried to sell him to the Raids as a 1st or 2nd rounder ?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Preistt, give me your top prospects from your ’scouting’ this year.
Which players did you really like, and which ones do you think will be busts.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:44 am
R99-I like Leinert,you don’t.Priest likes JC,you don’t.Everyone has their own ideas and opinions-nothing wrong with that.Leinert might never amount to anything,but I believe he might if put in the right situation.Then again,I might be completely off base.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Hey Lefty12,how you doin? I think you mentioned earlier that youre fond of south paws,as they say. Think I agree w/ya regarding Leinart, Snakes arm was about the same,although Snake should be in the hall,imo If we could bring him in,take a look,why not?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Another time man I don’t have the energy for it right now. Normally when you see me talk up a player it’s because I scouted the kid. I don’t have money to spend to go on location. I’ve always scouted from film and you can call schools and talk to position coaches it’s not hard.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:54 am
i’m watching the Jax game again and I noticed DHB is ahving an OK outting. JC’s throwing darts, the one to Murphy in the back of the endzone was classic.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:57 am
Hey,Hendu.It couldn’t hurt.Everyone is always throwing out all these QBs we should bring in for a look,don’t see why not Leinert.Troy Smith but not Leinert.I don’t get it.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:00 am
I’ve just never been a Troy Smith fan he struggles with pressure in his face. Will throw into coverage a bit too much. As a backup I have no problem but other than that no.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:06 am
You know my feelings on that one-I absolutely agree,but if you were to believe things you read on here you’d think he was the next Unitas.As far as a back-up,he isn’t any better than what we already.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:10 am
Say Lefty12,whatever happened to RaiderO,Wiz76,etc? Any ideas
June 27th, 2011 at 1:10 am
DMC aint no joke he has arrived…………..period
June 27th, 2011 at 1:11 am
In my opinion Leinert is a waste of time.
If you’re going to overcome the handicap of having a weak arm like Matt, then you’re going to have to show some other intangibles or abilities.
Stabler didn’t have a powerful arm (although in his heyday it was much stronger than Leinert’s) but he was as cool as a cucumber, spread the ball all over the field and had incredible accuracy.
Gannon had a noodle for an arm, but no one worked harder at his craft and Rich was a great field general.
Gannon had good athleticism besides his pea shooter and made the most of his abilities.
I guess it’s possible Leinert has some intangibles that would enable him to overcome those helium balls he likes to float. I just haven’t seen a hint of them.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Jax just matched us bigplay for big play. The Ford fumble just came at the worst possible time. And then the kick return killed us.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:16 am
5 safety defense, and huff getting smoked, didn’t help either.
Geez, Raids shoulda won that game.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:20 am
Was watching replay of the tuck rule game yesterday morning.
Forgot that Waufle was part of that coaching staff.
Was a little strange seeing that blast from the past and knowing Bresnahan and Waufle will be working together again.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:24 am
I don’t know if Snake’s arm was stronger than Leinert’s.As for Gannon he wasn’t worth anything until much later in his carreer.Leinert can make all the throws required.If you know where you should go with the ball,it makes up for not having the strongest gun.Many of the best through history haven’t had rifles.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:29 am
Huff played CB at times.In fact many wanted him moved there altogether.Saying we were in a 5 safety set isn’t quite true.Pointing out he got smoked is though.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:32 am
Hendu,probably the lockout has stopped some from commenting.As for O,he just might be too embarrassed given what went down at OSU.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:33 am
Well,nite all.Thanks for the civil conversations.Go Raiders.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:34 am
Was convinced Leinert would bust in the NFL after watching quite a few USC games his final year. Always felt that although he played decently, it was mainly attributable to him having a great arsenal around him. That team was loaded.
Always thought his arm strength was going to be a problem at the next level, and the loss to Texas made me really doubt his viability as an NFL QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:35 am
What frustrates me is Louis Murphy is freakin unreliable. We had a 24-14 lead and JC threw a dart for a 1st down to Murphy. The problem is Murphy fell down and we punted and that’s when they scored 17 unanswered points. They were dead in the water Muphy falls down and we give up 76 yarder on the ensueing kickoff Ford fumbled and on and on. SEVENTEEN unanswered………….game over!
June 27th, 2011 at 1:35 am
Take care, Lefty.
See ya, fellas
June 27th, 2011 at 1:41 am
Adios!
June 27th, 2011 at 5:19 am
Revis gets away with illegal chucks all over the field his hands are all over the rec. they never call it. If Nnamdi touches a guy there’s 3 flags.
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Too funny!!!
Revis was called for more penalties than Nnamdi last year.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!
Well…hopefully we have a season this year…and all the talks going on…its a good sign, but come on…this should have never happened! Oh well…Go Raiders!
June 27th, 2011 at 7:08 am
I say we let Nnamdi and Huff go and cut Kelly and sign Haloti Ngata… thats my “Madden GM Moment’ wishful thinking of the day. LOL
June 27th, 2011 at 7:26 am
I would love to have Ngata, but as you said…wishful thinking. All in all tho i’m happy with the front 4 and it’s rotation.
Here’s a nice stat Marshall can walk away with, even tho his 5 safety set may have cost his job. lol
47 sacks: tied 2nd in the league
June 27th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Sitting here watching the top 100. They’re profiling Rivers and all his heroics.
Looking at his highlights, all I can think is I wish we had his WRs and Oline.
There’s no one touching him, and his WRs are actually open by AT LEAST a step.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:38 am
It looks like Jerry not only is wishing Nnamdi to be off the team, but in the process, is criticizing the way he was used as a Raider. Doesn’t matter that Chuck B. is new in town and on board. It’s always the Al Davis way.
If Nnamdi didn’t have an effect on winning, would having a lesser CB have even more of a negative impact? The words to describe this situation in this blog seem like burning bridges. I had hope that Nnamdi would re-sign to a long term deal with as much incentives as the new CBA would allow. I still think we need Nnamdi back. Who cares if he’s only taking away 20% or 50% of the field? He’s still the best in the business, top 18, and there’s no way anybody steps into his shoes. Anyone else who tries is going to give up 10 big plays next year. 10 big plays is the difference of maybe 2 games in the W/L column. We could go from up-and-coming 8-8 team on the verge of the playoffs, to another 5-11 team that groans about it’s tough 2011 schedule. I know what I want.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Like I’ve been saying…
“So let’s have none of the “Nnamdi takes away half the field” nonsense that seems to arise regularly”
June 27th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Chris Mortensen of ESPN is reporting that WR Terrell Owens recently underwent ACL
surgery. Full story here
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6707492
Details are still sketchy as some are saying he was injured during a workout and other reports say he was injured during production of a VH1 Television show.
Regardless of how it happened, the unofficial prognosis is that he’s looking at a roughly six month recovery time. That would put him into November.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Kelly is not the problem, IMO. Our Dline talent is as good as it gets IF healthy.
Our Dilne should be Seymour-Kelly-Henderson-ShoNasty. Bryant and Houston should be in heavy rotation along with Moss. Yeah, I like what I saw from Moss.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:46 am
“If healthy” is right. Because there is little depth on the D-line. Cross you fingers and pray for health, if they can stay healthy, they should dominate.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Shaughnessy – Kelly – Seymour – Houston is as good of a starting front four as you’re going to get.
Bryant, Henderson, Moss, and Scott are decent depth players, but I hope a couple UDFAs – preferably Brandon Bair and Ian Williams – come aboard as well.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Henderson essentially missed half the season last year.
Trevor Scott missed a chunk of time, and still won’t be right until mid season IF he makes the team.
Bryant played with a dislocated elbow for a good part of the season, if I’m not mistaken.
Seymour missed time and played hurt.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:54 am
No way Houston shouldnt be in our starting line up?! Hes a second year guy and I would argue already he is the only slightly behind Seymour as our best dlineman. 40 tackles 5 sacks for a rookie, plus I am fairly certain I read a stat that he actually led the entire league in quarterback hurries. Houston will be a pro bowler by year 3. No way you dont start him.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:55 am
J Hill i have to agree with you, i wish we had that o line as well. I hate Rivers with a passion, but that o line gives him more than enough time to succeed as it would any average qb. I’d love to see him behind our oline, he wouldn’t be all that.
As far as wr, yeah we drop balls and not the best in running routes but i think Murphy will improve with time. He’s only in his 3rd year. DHB i really don’t have much confidence in him, even tho he works hard. Chaz… enough said. lol
June 27th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I think our team would be better if we spend the Nnamdi/Miller/Bush/Huff $ on FB/LG/OLB
June 27th, 2011 at 7:57 am
I think we need to address linebacker in free agency much more than DL
June 27th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Yes, Philip Rivers will not have succeeded if he had our OL and WR’s the past few years. Brady, great system QB, but what if he played for the Raiders? Good QB’s makes plays, or try to, regardless of the supporting cast…but…who would have made the plays for those 2? Kind of deceiving if you ask me…can the Raiders win with what we got? They have proven it last year, but really need to get a better supporting cast (a few here and there) and we should be abck in business!
June 27th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Yeah, I hear you on Houston in the starting lineup. It was a tough choice, but I just happen to think that Seymour’s best position on the field right now would be the base DE. He’s a better base DE than Houston is, imo.
I almost inked Houston in place of Kelly. I think the only reason I kept Houston as my 6th man, if you will, is ability to play all 4 spots on the line.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I think we need a veteran backup QB first. Then we can look at FB or another LB.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:07 am
I agree, 666…if JC goes down….that will be scary!
June 27th, 2011 at 8:10 am
I am fairly certain we arent heading into the season with Campbell and Boller as our only options. We will address QB somehow.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:13 am
As good as Jacoby is, Houston is my favorite pick from last year. The guy is a stud.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Lets hope Wiz plays as well as Houston and or Ford or did last year!
June 27th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Well …
Just saw the Nnamdi at #18 piece on NFL.
Pretty impressive feedback from the guys he has to go against.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:23 am
I know everyone’s moved on from Nnamdi, but until he officially signs elsewhere, I think he should be a priority re-sign.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Nnamdi or Huff? Who will get resigned? Or will none will?
June 27th, 2011 at 8:27 am
sign them both, and Zach M and M. Bush and, and, and….
June 27th, 2011 at 8:28 am
I would love to keep hope alive like you are saying Guest123 but We did draft 4 DB’s in the last 2 drafts and we did sign Routt to a large deal so the odds are not good on us keeping Nnamdi.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I know SNB666, the writing is on the wall. But I don’t have much faith that anyone can fill Nnamdi’s shoes. He takes away one primary reciever in each game. He definitely alters gameplans. Now with Nnamdi gone, the QB can go back and scan both sides of the field and open up his aresenal.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:34 am
LOL!
Watching Freeney clown Matt Light makes me feel a little better about Veldheers performance.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:37 am
” Now with Nnamdi gone, the QB can go back and scan both sides of the field and open up his aresenal.”
Maybe now our run defense will improve because everyone is going to throw the ball 50 times a game on us.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:37 am
He takes away one primary reciever in each game.
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Last year, this was actually the case until he got injured in the Seattle game. He actually was playing against the other team’s best WR. He played Fitzgerald the whole game, and would’ve matched up against Johnson, but Johnson didn’t play. Seattle didn’t have anyone worthy of Nnamdi shadowing, and then bam, he gets hurt.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Maybe, just maybe, if Nnamdi leaves, we don’t play as much man to man?
It may take a few arsssee whoopins, but I can’t imagine us putting rookies and 2nd year players on islands like we did Ware and McFadden last year.
Woodson has already talked about the corners playing facing the QB instead of with their backs to the QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:45 am
I don’t want to take a few arsewhoopins to get the point that man-to-man ain’t going to work. It took seven years to get back to respectable 8-8 and on the cusp of playoff team. This isn’t the time to experiment or learn the hard way. Unless we’re going all in for the “Luck” sweepstakes. And I don’t even care about that. They are so close right now to being a factor and getting back to the postseason. Still a long way from contending for a SB, but I’ll take a gradual improvement. Losing Nnamdi is like a rebuilding move.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:49 am
137.J Hill Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:37 am
He takes away one primary reciever in each game.
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Last year, this was actually the case until he got injured in the Seattle game. He actually was playing against the other team’s best WR. He played Fitzgerald the whole game, and would’ve matched up against Johnson, but Johnson didn’t play. Seattle didn’t have anyone worthy of Nnamdi shadowing, and then bam, he gets hurt.
Yeah and when he got hurt in the Seattle game covering Big Mike Williams…the game was already something like 30-3…so it was like, why was he still in there?
June 27th, 2011 at 8:55 am
It took seven years to get back to respectable 8-8 and on the cusp of playoff team.
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True.
I’d attribute our “get back” to finally having some offense and an improved Dline. If our Dline is as dominant as a lot of think it can be, then I think our corners will be fine. I can’t see us putting Branch as a single deep safety, and us leaving Routt, CJ37, and these 2nd year guys and rookies on islands. If we do that, I think we will take arssse whooopins and be forced to change it up. I just don’t see us doing that from the onset is what I am saying. I believe Woodson when he says that our CBs will play more facing the QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Looking at the Aaron Rogers profile on this top 100 and it’s just AGAIN standing out how wide open Jennings, Driver, and the rest of his WRs are.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Some of that is coaching, but that GB group of WR’s and TE’s is just better than ours.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:31 am
What about that WR James Jones as a FA pickup?
June 27th, 2011 at 9:43 am
IMO i really think Miller should be the 1st to be resigned. I’m not saying break the bank, but he plays a major role in this offense that Brandon Myers will Not fill!
Miller was our leading reciever with 685 yds.
Led the team in receptions with 60
Led the team in td’s with 5.
2- 100 yd games.
That’s better than any reciever we have on the roster. I don’t think we have good enough recievers right now to take a chance on letting Miller walk. The pass game is bad enough as it stands now.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I’ve made this point before, but I’ll do it again now. For all of Asomugha’s excellence, how much did it really help the Raiders’ bottom line?
Play man-to-man defense as much as the Raiders, and he’s essentially covering 20 percent of the eligible receivers, giving the quarterback 80 percent of the field to work with. So let’s have none of the “Nnamdi takes away half the field” nonsense that seems to arise regularly.
-Jerry Mac
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2 points for JMAC!
Nnamdi has been a Raider since 2003 and we haven’t won more than 8 games with him on our team. He doesn’t make us a winner. He’s not a game changer. He’s a role player.
Does he do his job? Yeah!
Is he the best man2man cb in the league? Sure!
but the Raiders don’t use him properly and we could use his $12-16 million per season on offensive playmakers. Let him walk
June 27th, 2011 at 9:48 am
but the Raiders don’t use him properly and we could use his $12-16 million per season on offensive playmakers. Let him walk
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Agreed RaiderRockstar!!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:48 am
134.guest123 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I know SNB666, the writing is on the wall. But I don’t have much faith that anyone can fill Nnamdi’s shoes. He takes away one primary reciever in each game. He definitely alters gameplans. Now with Nnamdi gone, the QB can go back and scan both sides of the field and open up his aresenal.
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Takes longer to scan both sides of the field. Our pass rush will have that extra second to get there and get more sacks!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Agree that Miller is a top priority FA signing. Al Davis will make him rich.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Miami Heat guard Norris Cole is the cousin to Eagles Pro Bowl DE Trent Cole
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Go Heat !!!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:51 am
bcz24 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:48 am
134.guest123 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I know SNB666, the writing is on the wall. But I don’t have much faith that anyone can fill Nnamdi’s shoes. He takes away one primary reciever in each game. He definitely alters gameplans. Now with Nnamdi gone, the QB can go back and scan both sides of the field and open up his aresenal.
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Takes longer to scan both sides of the field. Our pass rush will have that extra second to get there and get more sacks!
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That’s certainly the cup half full approach there. A good QB will be able to read and react in time and pick apart the defense, with always one guy breaking open at any time.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am
2 points for JMAC!
Nnamdi has been a Raider since 2003 and we haven’t won more than 8 games with him on our team. He doesn’t make us a winner. He’s not a game changer. He’s a role player.
Does he do his job? Yeah!
Is he the best man2man cb in the league? Sure!
but the Raiders don’t use him properly and we could use his $12-16 million per season on offensive playmakers. Let him walk
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Here’s an idea…
How about keep him and change the scheme so he always shadows the other teams top WR? How about keep the continuity in the backfield and not do trial-by-fire? Why not invest $12M/year for 5 years and keep Nnamdi and have him eventually take over the single safety role ala Rod Woodson? Who better to teach him the transition?
June 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Still a long way from contending for a SB, but I’ll take a gradual improvement. Losing Nnamdi is like a rebuilding move.
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I don’t see that.
Routt, CJ37, Branch & Mitchell all have plenty of experience in the Raiders system
It might be “rebuilding” if you threw DVD, Chekwa, Walt McFadden & Stevie Brown out there as your 4 starters!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Raiders aren’t facing the NFC West this year. Just to stay at an 8-8 record this year, they will need to improve. Losing Nnamdi will make it that much tougher to be competitive.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:55 am
but he plays a major role in this offense that Brandon Myers will Not fill!
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Marcel Reece can fill that role just fine.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I don’t see that.
Routt, CJ37, Branch & Mitchell all have plenty of experience in the Raiders system
It might be “rebuilding” if you threw DVD, Chekwa, Walt McFadden & Stevie Brown out there as your 4 starters!
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Even that Routt, CJ37, Branch and Mitchell backfield doesn’t instill confidence. Sorry.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am
G,
who are we to say that Nnamdi would accept $12M/year for 5 years with yet another HC change & DC change?
Asking Al Davis to change his defensive philosophy is like asking him to hire a GM… never happen !!!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am
154.guest123 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Raiders aren’t facing the NFC West this year. Just to stay at an 8-8 record this year, they will need to improve. Losing Nnamdi will make it that much tougher to be competitive.
6-10, maybe? And that is being positive that we can sweep the division again…anyways…I believe we will improve on that record and come close to, or will sweep the division again! With a full season, I predict a 10-6 record, at least!
June 27th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Area 21 is a great player he has by far the best press cover skills in football. However he is not a dynamic playmaker. I never buy into the argument that because your in man to man you dont have a chance to intercept the ball.
In theory you arr stride ofr stride with the receiver, and are supposed to disrupt the ball with your hands as it hits the target. This is what the best cover guys do, and namdi is the best.
In contrast a dynamic play maker in this scheme not only sticks to the receiver step for step, he locates the ball in flight and goes up to snag it. This is what namdi hasnt done. Some of it is because they dont throw his way often, but when he does have chances he has fallen flat in the departmant. We have had guys in silver & black excel in take aways, playing corner.
i would still rather have namdi, however i think the real question is does Nam want to be here?
June 27th, 2011 at 10:00 am
157.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am
G,
who are we to say that Nnamdi would accept $12M/year for 5 years with yet another HC change & DC change?
Asking Al Davis to change his defensive philosophy is like asking him to hire a GM… never happen !!!
Because Nnamdi has stated before that he wasnt to remain in Oakland and finish what was started, so…maybe…
But Al changing up his beloved man to man? good luck…
June 27th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Even that Routt, CJ37, Branch and Mitchell backfield doesn’t instill confidence. Sorry.
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Me either.
But it’s the safeties that concern me more than the corners.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Area 21 is a great player he has by far the best press cover skills in football. However he is not a dynamic playmaker.
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lmao
June 27th, 2011 at 10:02 am
There’s no doubt that Reece has good hands even better in the open field, but do you honestly think they’ll put him in as TE full time? I just don’t see it happening, although i’m not opposed to it if we can’t retain Miller.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:02 am
The Raiders aren’t signing Nnamdi because Al’s pocket book is no longer “dynamic”. He’s going broke.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Mistic,
I agree that Nnamdi isn’t the “playmaker” to be aggessive and take away the football from the receiver. It’s just not his game. He shadows the other receiver like a ballet dancer, and then makes the play effortlessly. He’s so good at what he does, he rarely sees the ball thrown at him. What can he do about that? He’s got no control over it and he has limited chances. Taking chances for the INT isn’t within his discipline. He has a technique to his game that clearly makes breaking up the play much more important than going for the ball and risking the big play. It’s just not Nnam’s game to take those kind of risks.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Signing Routt to a ridiculous contract and with Checkwa and DVD…yeah, Al most likely won’t but will he sign Huffy back? Or is he too broke for that too? We still have to sign the drafees also…
June 27th, 2011 at 10:08 am
With a full season, I predict a 10-6 record, at least!
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Easily.
The onslaught be lead by our Dline and Oline!
Despite what the majority think, I believe Barksdale is an upgrade over Walker and Wiz is an upgrade over Satele.
Listen to our Oline expert JFB when he tells you that Gallery was “eye opening” bad when he watched “film” of him. With Carlisle replacing him, we get a “savage” run blocker and a guy who will not have the penalties and mental errors of the BUST #1 pick.
Veldheer is going to be a SOLID player for us for a while.
Our one possible weak link is Beast Campbell at RG. My thinking is RG is not that hard to play, and that guy is a physical beast. Just by lining up, he should be able to be at least OK. Could be wrong about this one.
But 4 outta 5 positions will be solid on our Oline.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:11 am
J Hill,
I like your optimism, don’t get me wrong. But 2 of the starters rookies who haven’t even suited up once and you think the line is all shored up? And that doesn’t even include the one guy you don’t feel that good about.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:58 am
G,
who are we to say that Nnamdi would accept $12M/year for 5 years with yet another HC change & DC change?
Asking Al Davis to change his defensive philosophy is like asking him to hire a GM… never happen !!!
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Hate to sound like MR, but you are right. We as fans have to hope that Al gets lucky and wins his way in spite of himself. yeesh!
June 27th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Guest,
It’s more about my disdain for Walker, Gallery, and Satele. Those guys were in the middle of damn near every bad play we had on offense last year. Be it a missed block, a penalty, releasing the block they are on, and just countless mental errors and WTF are you doing type plays.
Let me put it this way.
at C, LG, and RT I think we went from possibly the worst in the league to maybe around 25 or so. And as the rookies progress, I think we can get to the 15-20 range.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I’ll agree with all of that, but I’ll also go back to the sobering schedule we have this year and 6 games played at 10AM. And I guarantee you there is no way we sweep the AFC West again. Too much bad blood and revenge on the mind inside the division.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Wow JC owned the afc west, peep these numbers
In 2010, Campbell was incredibly efficient in the passing throwing for completion percentage of 68 percent. To go with that, he threw for seven touchdowns and two interceptions with a quarterback rating of 106.88.
Campbell also threw for 8.7 yards per attempt and had a touchdown rushing.- Carl cockerahm
June 27th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Greetings from Las Vegas everyone…!!!
JFB…I’m back!! L.A. turned out to be a vacation instead of a relocation.
I’ll tell you what…I didn’t miss this heat. Driving through Baker last night around 11pm my mirror read 100*…smh! Oh well…it is what it is!
June 27th, 2011 at 10:31 am
“Wow JC owned the afc west, peep these numbers”
JC has a long ways to go before he owns any team.
The first thing he needs to do is not play scared with his deer in the headlights look. The next thing is he needs to get better at is seeing the entire field not just one or two receivers.
I know you are excited about JC but he has a lot to prove before we can crown him AFC best QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I don’t think we will sweep the Chargers, but it is possible.
I do think that Denver and KC should have no chance against us. I just personally think we are WAY better than them.
I expect us to go no worse than 4-2 in our division.
I think the 10am games we’ve been losing these past few years is because we weren’t the better team. I see us getting 6 wins outside of our division against the Clevelands, Chicagos, Miami, and Buffalos of the schedule.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Hands down…Rivers is the best AFC West QB…right now!
In 2nd place I say JC.
3rd Orton
4th Cassell
June 27th, 2011 at 10:34 am
What happened to film study JFB?
June 27th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You don’t get better losing great players however others must step up so that you don’t get to much worse. But make no mistake about it losing Nnamdi will make a difference…………..period
I feel good about Routt he is a top teir cover corner but we neeed someone to man the other side that should be CJ if he’ll just play to it. He’s good enough but confidence is his only problem.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Anyone will agree that P. Rivers is far and away best QB in division. But the other 3 and maybe even Teabow are all on level ground. I can’t really separate one from the other.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I say that if we beat the Donkeys on Monday night…and our first meeting in SD we win that one…there is a good chance that we sweep the division again!
June 27th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Mistic1 These guys can’t see past there own bias when JC does it it’s a mistake. When someone else does the same thing it’s called great QB’ing. The more I watch this kid without a preconceaved opinion I see a kid who played at a high level most of the time during the second half of the season.
JC made several great throws in several games he was undone by his young WR’s quite a bit or we win at least 2 more games. I watched the Jax game last night and really saw what I couldn’t see before he played better than I thought. We just have issues at WR as well as Oline. I’m talking about bad routes dropped balls and rec’s falling down on crucial 3rd down plays. We should be much better this year.
We need to grow up as an offense, if we do we can go to the playoffs……………period
June 27th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Damn man when i watch Chaz I just can’t believe how talented that kid is. If we could just get a year out of that kid it would make a world of difference.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Look I understand we are all optimistic and want JC to be an above average QB. But the fact remains he has to prove it on the field.
We got him for a 4th round pick, basically there was not much interest in him outside the Raiders. He is average at best and got pulled from games last year for sub par play.
Until he puts together a full season of 10 or more wins 65% passing 30 TD’s or better we will be having this argument again next Summer.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I know i rip on Chaz a lot but when healthy he’s a difference maker. Missing more games than actually playing isn’t going to award a nice new contract when it’s up. Hopefully he can rebound this year, we need him! Anyone seen him in the BENGAY commercial yet?
June 27th, 2011 at 11:10 am
He might have had 2 out of those 3 if the idiot coach doesn’t bench him. The key for him is to win the stats are just stats. This dude can play now we need those around him to step up their game………….period
June 27th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Should’ve been a PI on Ford perfect pass and the ref just stares at it. The DB waas beaten and the ref allows an illegal chuck.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:25 am
The Colts have excellent tacklers the just don’t miss many tackles.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Stats are indicative of production.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Its pretty simple guys, if a QB throws the ball 30 times a game he will have 480 attempts a season.
If he completes 65% that means 312 balls caught
If he completes 50% that means 240 balls caught
So no matter what you think of stats if a QB completes 65% of his passes it will make for more first downs more sustained drives and more TD’s.
Not rocket science.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Our defense was just flat out gassed in the 4th qrtr and the nickle and dimed us and Payton throws a back shoulder on CJ…….TD and we’re dead.
Payton’s rec’s made plays ours didn’t and they have a much more efficient passing game, in terms of execution.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:38 am
The Principal was on last night (James Belushi). It was filmed in Oakland. Anyone seen it? The Hells Angels guy that was in Rebels of Oakland (HBO documentary on Raiders/A’s) is in the scene where Belushi breaks up the drug deal on his motorcycle. Pretty interesting. Several good shots of Oakland in the late ’80s. Grim economic time for the city, like today.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:38 am
666 shutup man JC completes 65% oof his passes man that aint even a concern……..shutup dude.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Well now, that didn’t take long, did it?
Dude, all you did last year was make excuses for JC’s short comings.
Bad enough you say you never make excuses, and never will, but at least wait a full day before you contradict yourself?
1. priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Lefty12 no matter what I say his play is there for everyone to evaluate so why should it matter what I say?
Didn’t make nay excuses for him last year and IO wont this year.
1. priesttj Says:
June 26th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Lefty12
All anyone ever does is criticise JC. I have never amde excuses for him I’ve only given him credit for what he did.
priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:10 am
He might have had 2 out of those 3 if the idiot coach doesn’t bench him. The key for him is to win the stats are just stats. This dude can play now we need those around him to step up their game………….period
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SURE SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCUSE TO ME, OLD MAN!
June 27th, 2011 at 11:43 am
That was a sweet drive by JC in the 4th qrtr he was like 7 for 8 with a TD pass.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:43 am
You don’t get better losing great players however others must step up so that you don’t get to much worse. But make no mistake about it losing Nnamdi will make a difference…………..period
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I don’t agree that losing Nnamdi makes us a worse football team.
Nnamdi wouldn’t have been drafted if we had anybody worth a darn in the secondary besides CWood from ‘98 to ‘03. and a 2-year rental of RWood…
Brady wouldn’t have gotten a chance unless Bledsoe got injured. Philip Rivers (actually Eli Manning) wouldn’t have been drafted by San Diego if Drew Brees first 3 years there were anything like his last 5 years in New Orleans
Point is, even if the Raiders finish 9-7 next year and miss the playoffs; they’re still better than they ever were with #21 in the secondary
June 27th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Our defense was just flat out gassed in the 4th qrtr and the nickle and dimed us and Payton throws a back shoulder on CJ…….TD and we’re dead.
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For some reason Hue/Cable/Davis, whoever, decided to get into a passing contest with Peyton Manning. Soup threw the Ball what 43 times? INSTEAD OF running the ball, which we’re much better at, and keeping the defense off the field.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:45 am
I gotta give the Colts credit they are a very well coached team that executes that’s why they win so many games.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Priest
Whats the matter there little man did I hit nerve?
I never once mentioned JC in my last post you tard.
Why is it so easy for you to get your little panties in a wad.
Don’t start with me you insecure uneducated little man because you will only look stupider than you already are if that is at all possible.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:47 am
“The more I watch this kid without a preconceaved opinion I see a kid who played at a high level most of the time during the second half of the season.”
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at different times during the season JC played at a HIGH SCHOOL level.
And got benched.
Because he qb rating was below 20 in one game.below 10 in another.
and some guy named Hue had had enough of his high school level play.
Stats.
Facts.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:48 am
The difference between Manning and JC was Manning pin pointed his passes.JC threw the ball in the WRs area.That slant pass to DHB is a perfect example.Manning hits him on the numbers.JC threw the ball and DHB was lucky to get his extended arm near the ball.Those type of plays are also relative to the Rec. looking good or not looking good.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:49 am
RRS Now there’s some damn good reasoning……………Whew!! we’re off to a great start……sometimes I can’t believe some of the logic in here.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:49 am
666 shutup man JC completes 65% oof his passes man that aint even a concern……..shutup dude.
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Silver can speak for himself, TJ
but JCamp only completed 59 % of his passes last year
65 percent isn’t even a concern? as in, it’s a given?
the same WR Corps returns this year DHB-Murphy-Ford-Schilens
the only difference is late rounders Moore & Ausberry replacing Higgins & NMiller. Then you’ve got 4 new OL starters
Excuse me, but i’m still concerned about our atrocious passing game.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:50 am
“at different times during the season JC played at a HIGH SCHOOL level.
And got benched.
Because he qb rating was below 20 in one game.below 10 in another.
and some guy named Hue had had enough of his high school level play.
Stats.
Facts.”
I mean unless you are living in fantasy land or blind how could you not know this!
Well put Tony.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I liked Gradkowski better than Campbell because Gradkowski got rid of the ball quicker. Davis likes these tall, slender QBs like Campbell, Kerry Collins, Jeff George, Marc Wilson, etc., with slow motion releases, almost as if their release is timed to match a receiver running 50 yards down field. Fine. But what happens when you’re facing a blitz? I just think Gradkowski is a better QB. Their stats are almost identical. So I’m hesitant to declare as fact that Gradkowski is flat out better. Numbers don’t lie. They’re about the same. I just think Gradkowski’s style is better for today’s league. That quick release under pressure. It’s a requirement in today’s NFL. And I just don’t think Campbell has it.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:55 am
31-19 and he leads a nice 4th qtr drive.Isn’t that one of the complaints against JC?He pads his stats at the end of games.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
the 2010 Raiders had the 23rd ranked passing offense and the 2nd best rushing offense.
you guys can blabber on about points scored all you want to, but it doesn’t change the fact that the passing “attack” wasn’t good enough to propel us into the playoffs. You can easily make a case that JCamp is the WORST starting QB in the AFC West, even though we went undefeated in it.
that speaks volumes about the o-line’s ability to run block and the two headed monster we call McBush. Replacing Cable & Gallery with Wylie & Loper isn’t an automatic wash or upgrade. Sorry gents, just keepin’ it real
June 27th, 2011 at 11:56 am
It amazes me how some people in here think that JC is the second coming of Joe Montana.
The Redskins let him go for a 4th round pick and there was no fight from any other teams to get him. He comes here shows potential but also gets benched for playing poorly.
Like I said earlier we all have high hopes for him but we cannot crown him king of AFC QB’s yet as he has not earned it.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:57 am
This is a fact, btw. Statistically, our QB depth chart is now worse without Gradkowski on it. That is indisputable. Whether he starts, or backs up Campbell. And, we could have kept him! He doesn’t even cost anything. So, I just don’t know if a GM who significantly worsens the QB depth chart is serious about capitalizing on his first non losing season in 8 years.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
T.O. has a bad knee….now I am sure the Raiders will sign him.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I just think Gradkowski’s style is better for today’s league. That quick release under pressure. It’s a requirement in today’s NFL. And I just don’t think Campbell has it.
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MR:
even so, Gradkowski has been with 5 different teams in 5 years. 20 TD’s to 23 INT’s = career stats
He’s an injury prone 3rd string journeyman.
Every team needs a backup QB and at times Russell & Campbell looked REALLY pathetic out there, requiring the need for Grads services.
This brings me to my next point.. the Raiders need a backup QB !!!
Boller, Gradkowski & Frye aren’t the answer.
Losman, Tui & Walter aren’t either.
Danny Southwick, anyone ???
June 27th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Lefty12, what’s he supposed to do not do the drive? maybe he should’ve just thrown a int. and get it over with. I don’t get it he does what everyone says he can’t do and yet we fault him for it. If Gradkowski did the same thing he would’ve been praised for it.
No he’s not Montana he’s Jason Campbell and a pretty good player at that. But if he plays well he did it on a fluke………I get it he’s lousy as long as I say that it’s OK!
June 27th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RRS Says:
Sorry gents, just keepin’ it real
^^^^^^^^^^
Fahreel RRS. I think JC is just an avg QB and on par with KC’s and Dungver’s QB’s.
Playing behind a fully rebuilt OL that was horrible in pass protection but good in run blocking. The recipe going forward is ground and pound and then more of it. Limit pass plays to 25 to 30 attempts a game, and let the horses run.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Trent Edwards
RR
That’s who I want as a backup QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Pat White wasn’t good enough to compete with Chad Henne, 35 year old Chad Pennington & Tyler Thigpen ???
LOL. Now he has to join the UFL for a shot
Somebody in here going to claim that the Miami owner, GM & HC are racist?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
If JC goes down, who among all of you have a vote of confidence for Kyle Boller?
Anyone?
Anyone?
So what purpose does he serve? Why not make him an asst. coach?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Wow JC owned the afc west, peep these numbers
In 2010, Campbell was incredibly efficient in the passing throwing for completion percentage of 68 percent. To go with that, he threw for seven touchdowns and two interceptions with a quarterback rating of 106.88.
Campbell also threw for 8.7 yards per attempt and had a touchdown rushing.- Carl cockerahm
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First off, did you really paste a comment from some idiot from bleachers?
JC’s rating wasn’t 106, it was around 86.
Didn’t avg 8.7, was more around 7.3.
didn’t avg 68% throwing, was 59% or so.
Wake up
June 27th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
If JC can get his comp % back up to 64%, we take the next step and go from 8-8 to 10-6 and AFC Champs. Just another 25-35 more completions over 16 games. I think it would make a huge difference.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Just say JC is lousy and appease the masses that’s the only way to make a comment about the kid is say he’s lousy. Any other comment if any way positive draws the ire of every hater in here.
Bruce Gradkowski is great he is king of the world…………is that good enough???
June 27th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Playing behind a fully rebuilt OL that was horrible in pass protection but good in run blocking. The recipe going forward is ground and pound and then more of it. Limit pass plays to 25 to 30 attempts a game, and let the horses run.
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G,
you’re left hoping that 3 things happen here
1. the new O-Line coaches & personell are equal or better than last years
2. McFadden stays healthy
3. Bush is retained
3b. rookie Jones comes on strong
You know what happens when we play against teams that are good at defending the run?
You put the game in the hands of your 23rd ranked passing offense with a still suspect (yet hopefully improved) O-Line …
June 27th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Lefty12, what’s he supposed to do not do the drive? maybe he should’ve just thrown a int. and get it over with. I don’t get it he does what everyone says he can’t do and yet we fault him for it. If Gradkowski did the same thing he would’ve been praised for it.
No he’s not Montana he’s Jason Campbell and a pretty good player at that. But if he plays well he did it on a fluke………I get it he’s lousy as long as I say that it’s OK!
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Actually, Old Man, it’s more like YOU are the kiss of death.
You make guarantees that immediately go south.
You prop a player, telling everyone how ignorant they are for now agreeing, then you lie and backtrack for a year.
Anyone ever test you for Alz?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Agreed 100% Tony
June 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Jason Campbell is not the reason we lost that game, we couldn’t run the football and he did a dman good job keeping us in it throwing but he gets criticised for that. You guys are a funny bunch.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RR,
Gradkowki could have been on 4 teams for 4 years. He’s on his 5th because the Raiders got rid of him. So that’s a bit disingenuous.
If you go over all of the stats, he and JC are about neck in neck, aren’t they?
That being said, I’ll reiterate my point. Our QB depth chart is now statistically worse, overall, without Gradkowski. There is no disputing that. And I just don’t know if worsening your QB depth chart is the right way to capitalize on your first non-losing season in 8 years.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Actually, Old Man, it’s more like YOU are the kiss of death.
You make guarantees that immediately go south.
You prop a player, telling everyone how ignorant they are for now agreeing, then you lie and backtrack for a year.
Anyone ever test you for Alz?
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Tony,
are you suggesting that a TJ guarantee is somewhat similar to the Madden cover curse?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Guest123 post #217 you hit the nail on the head!
June 27th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
BTW, old man, when you start losing the arguments regarding JC, you immediately toss in comments about Grad.
Facts are, in two seperate occasions, JC was benched, by HUE, for Grad.
That was, you know, the guy who’s currently the head coach.
I suppose you know more than Hue?
If it wasn’t for Al getting all butthurt cuz Shanahan was laughing at him, JC would have remained on the bench, at least until Grad got hurt.
JC is a stopgap decision. Which is contract indicates.
you’ll figure it out soon enough.
And the excuses will start, yet again.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
“And I just don’t know if worsening your QB depth chart is the right way to capitalize on your first non-losing season in 8 years.”
Which is why I think Al’s first move after the lock out is over is to sign an experienced backup QB.
Trent Edwards gets my vote. Jim Sorgi wouldn’t be a bad choice…
June 27th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Actually, Old Man, it’s more like YOU are the kiss of death.
You make guarantees that immediately go south.
You prop a player, telling everyone how ignorant they are for now agreeing, then you lie and backtrack for a year.
Anyone ever test you for Alz?
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Tony,
are you suggesting that a TJ guarantee is somewhat similar to the Madden cover curse?
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Bingo!
June 27th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Gradkowki could have been on 4 teams for 4 years. He’s on his 5th because the Raiders got rid of him. So that’s a bit disingenuous.
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MR,
the Rams signed him for a minute. He never started a game for them
“Gradkowski was claimed off waivers by the St. Louis Rams in June 2008, but was waived during final cuts on August 30″ – WIKI
this offseason makes 6 teams in 6 years (assuming he’s not retained since Al made “Mr Prejean” the millionaire instead)
June 27th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I will agree with MR that we’re in trouble cuz JC/Grad were both stop gaps, and right now who’s the relief?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
666, would Trent Edwards come to the Raiders? I doubt he’s going to fall for some back loaded contract, like Yvonne Walker and Tammy Kelly.
If Edwards is seriously willing to come to Oakland and back up Campbell, for one of Al’s infamous back loaded contracts (which doesn’t pay out until you play your 10th season with the team), hey, I’m all for it. But if he’s not willing to, Gradkowski was right in our locker room. I think letting Gradkowski go is going to be another one of those Al blunders that haunts us.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Trent Edwards gets my vote
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Silver,
started 33 games over the past 5 years. Obviously better than Russell & Quinn from the ‘07 draft
26 TD’s to 30 INT’s.
accumulative QB Rating over 75 & Comp % above 60
rather cheap gamble. I’ll take Edwards on a 1-year contract to compete with Boller as JCamp’s #2
June 27th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
MR and RR
I am looking at the list of free agent QB’s and he is the one who pops out to me as a viable option.
Like you said RR cheap gamble.
MR ” I think letting Gradkowski go is going to be another one of those Al blunders”
I agree with you why let him go with no apparent plans to replace him?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
When Campbell starts playing bad, we put in Boller, he plays bad, we put in Sullivan, he gets hurt….think we might be missing Gradkowski? I honestly don’t think Al even though of that. All he wanted to do was jettison Grads to avoid pressure from both inside and out the organization to put him in for Campbell. With Grads gone, there’s no viable option to Campbell, so he’s the man. That’s how Al wants it. Just Win Baby. sure.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Lefty12
I thought the kid played well against a defense designed to stop the deep ball. They force you to go underneath to run the clock. JC took what the defense was giving him and drove the team downfield for a late TD. If we get the onside kick we have a chance. The kid was not padding his stats he was doing what needed to be done to get a win. We were running out of time and the running game was ineffective. He had to do what he did……….period
June 27th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The Jaguars did not extend a restricted free agent tender to Trent Edwards before the March 3 deadline.
In other words, they’re cutting ties and Edwards will be an unrestricted free agent once the lockout ends. Edwards, 27, is no longer viewed as a potential starter, but he could resurface as a backup in a West Coast offense. The Eagles — after they trade Kevin Kolb — Bengals, Seahawks, Redskins, Texans, Browns, and 49ers all fit the description to various degrees.
May 4, 2:56 PM
Source: FOX Sports
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the Jags only had to pay Edwards $1.65 million last season
June 27th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I don’t see Trent Edwards coming to Oakland. Maybe in 7 years, when he’s washed up.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
When Campbell starts playing bad, we put in Boller, he plays bad, we put in Sullivan, he gets hurt….think we might be missing Gradkowski?
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you think we’re gonna re-sign J.T. O’Sullivan?
Puke !!!
June 27th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
No way on Trent Edwards. After he got killed by Arizona a fews years back he has never been the same. He cant make a deep through because 2 seconds after the snap he gets nervous and dumps the ball off. They call him Checkdown Edward here in Bills country.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
OK, so Edwards value might be lower than I thought. But here’s another obstacle:
“he could resurface as a backup in a West Coast offense.”
Typically a QB who wants to play in such an offense will avoid Oakland like the Plague. We were a consistently WCO team when Gruden was here, which was the ONLY reason Gannon and Rice signed. I don’t care what Hue says, with Campbell starting and Al meddling, we are NOT a WCO.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
They call him Checkdown Edward here in Bills country.
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Should be a nice compliment to Checkdown Jason in Oakland, no?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I don’t care what Hue says, with Campbell starting and Al meddling, we are NOT a WCO.
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Agreed.
Al Saunders is the OC.
He’s well versed in the Air Coryell system that Al covets
June 27th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
LOL Trent Edwards ………….gotta be joking. This stuff in here rivals an old TV show from the 60’s called “Laugh In” and the fact that some of them even think what they say is smart is the kicker.
It’s like the guy who thinks people are laughing with him instead they are laughing at him.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
I have a good idea for a backup QB. He’s injury prone, yet a solid player. He also knows the offense, is familiar with the players, has a good relationship with them. His name is Bruce Gradkowski. You know, if Bruce was never with the team, I guarantee you he’d be at the top of your guys’ wish lists. You just dont’ want him because of the controversy. You just don’t want him in Jason’s sand box.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Priesttj
I’ll give you this, Moaning about Bruce Gradkowski is a waste of time, and he couldn’t carry JC’s jockstrap.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
There’s nothing sadder about Raider fans today than the way they downplay good players who’ve fallen out with the team one way or another. This used to be a fan base that heralded great players as deities. Today we’ll take a good player and just split hairs until people are convinced he’s the worst football player who’s ever lived. We’re like a bunch of Charlie Finleys.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
We are talking about a backup QB.
I wouldn’t expect him to be starter material if he is coming here to backup JC.
How about Jim Sorgi?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Priest,all i was doing is pointing out that one of the criticisms of JC is he pads stats at the end of games and the Indy game could be used as an example of that.Nothing more,nothing less.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
His name is Bruce Gradkowski. You know, if Bruce was never with the team, I guarantee you he’d be at the top of your guys’ wish lists. You just dont’ want him because of the controversy. You just don’t want him in Jason’s sand box.
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I appreciate what Bruce did against the Squeelers in 2009. I really do. that was the best NFL game Grads will ever play in the pros.
Unfortunately, he doesn’t have any more of those in him.
Remember when Brady Quinn threw for over 300 yards & 4 TD’s against the Lions in 2009? same thing …
June 27th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Bruce Gradkowski as a backup makes sense I have to agree with MR the only reason he was not signed was because he is a threat to unseat JC…..or maybe he was considered a Cable guy.
Not sure just guessing.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Bruce Gradkowski is NOT a suitable backup IMO. Noodle Arm.
Bruce Gradkowski will not be in the NFL in 2011.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
The ONLY reason Gradkowski is so popular on this blog is for Troll Race-Baiting.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Could the same be said for Troy Smith.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
*?
June 27th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
“The ONLY reason Gradkowski is so popular on this blog is” he came in and played hard the team rallied around him and he did manage to win a couple of games for us.
“Troll Race-Baiting.” Is what people like you “KK” do when the conversation goes in a direction that you do not approve of.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
So, Rockster, I see your crystal ball tells you that Gradkowski will never be good again. That withstanding, are the Raiders yet to replace him with a backup statistic wise? Let me know when they do.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Well, Kell, if you think I like Gradkowski for racial reasons then that’s just unfortunate. That’s why I went out of my way to mention white QBs who have the same style as Campbell, like Jeff George, Kerry Collins, Marc Wilson, et al. That slow release. It just kills you in today’s NFL. Campbell can throw the ball a mile but it takes him too long to get rid of it. Basically, Kell, My problem with Campbell is that he plays too much like a tall white QB. lol.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Kell, I’d take Vick over Campbell or Gradkowski. That should vindicate me from any racism charges. Not only is Vick black, he’s the kind of troubled black athlete that serves as red meat to the racist crowd. I’d take Vick in a heart beat. With Vick, we’d let the dogs out.
June 27th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Seneca Wallace is a free agent. Intriguing possibility, he is at least mobile which will help him not get killed in our offense.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
lol. I have Seneca Wallace on my Madden franchise. Haven’t used him yet. Campbell is awesome on Madden, at least on the all pro level. lol. I’m undefeated two seasons straight. I’m also a nerd.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
if JC can put whole games together like the last TD drive in the Indy game we will be on to something.But so far in his career,that game is who he is-at least that is one of the big knocks against him.Wouldn’t it be great if he revolved into that 4th qtr drive QB we saw against Indy?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
lefty12 I know man I know you weren’t attacking the guy it’s just that I can’t stand reasoning like that. The kid made an excellent drive by anyones standards yet it can be twisted like that. Listen even I was very critical of this kid until the SD game when he did what I thought he couldn’t do. Then he did it again vs the KC and I watched the Kax game last night he was on point most of that game and as I watched the Colts game again he wasn’t sensational but he played well enough to get a win. Just too many miscues by him and the WR’s cost this team. Our WR’s are average at best they have to grow the hell up QUICK!!!
June 27th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Enough with the QB controversy….just draft that kid from Ohio…problem solved!
June 27th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
A’s and Phils are on. Love interleague play. Love it when the A’s rock the bright yellow, Rollie Fingers style. I’ve got to get one of those yellow jerseys. I’d look pretty fly in it. Town bidness.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
What do we really want in a back-up-some with starting experience who could step in for a period of time if need be,or someone who bounces from team to team and can’t even keep a back-up job elsewhere?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
“.just draft that kid from Ohio…problem solved!”
Won’t solve the problem as we need an experienced backup QB not a project QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
The reality is of all these guys people keep bringing up-Wallace,Edwards,Grads,T.Smith,etc-Boller is better than they are.Lets look at guys like Hasselback or Gerrard if we want to go get a different,experienced QB.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I dont think Boller is better than Seneca Wallace personally.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
All of these guys you’re naming, I don’t see how they’re insurmountably better than Gradkowski. In fact, some of them aren’t better than him at all. We dump Gradkowski off to get a backup that’s only slightly better than him, yet who will cost significantly more? Who is running this team?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Based on what?You can’t say based on what they have done as NFL QBs because it isn’t even close.Wallace has been given opportunity after opportunity and can’t even hold onto a back-up role on teams with worse QBs than we’ve had.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Well Lefty12 i think you’ll see games where he will and games where he wont. But what I want from him is a level of play that we can rely on where it’s rare when we get games where he’s way off. I don’t think JC is ever going to be a great MVP calibre QB but I do think he can do what McNabb and Big Ben are capable of doing which is make some great throws and play at a high level most of the time. I see that in him when you se flash’s like the Indy game and the KC and Jax games those aren’t flukes it’s who he is. The reason I say that is he does it so often and easy. He makes some very accurate throws like 7-10 in a row almost every game and I’m not talking about the checkdowns I’m talking outs and 7 routes and post. He throws the ball with a lot of touch a very catchable ball.
As I watched the Jax game I saw the kid play with a lot of poise and smarts. He did the same thing in the Indy game in the seond half and when he needed to. Indy’s defense is not easily navigated, once they made adjustments he took off.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Seneca Wallace is 5′11″, I don’t even want to take a look to be honest.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
270.lefty12 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Based on what?You can’t say based on what they have done as NFL QBs because it isn’t even close.Wallace has been given opportunity after opportunity and can’t even hold onto a back-up role on teams with worse QBs than we’ve had.
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Wallace has played for 2 teams? He backed up Hassellbeck in Seattle, and played (and started) in Cleveland last year until he was injured? He will mostly likely be retained in Cleveland because holmgren loves the guy. What opportunitys is he squandering?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Priest,he needs to do what Cable said-just let her rip.Don’t over think things-just play the game he has been playing for years.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
If you people want to improve the Team, why go on and on and on and on about a noodle armed backup QB, who’s not even on the team anymore.
The General Manager who’s lost 57% of his games for the last 23 years, and is still on the Team, is a more relevant convo, no?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Hey MR, I am only talking about replacing Gradkowski under the premise that team has already decided NOT to retain him (which may very well be the case, so as not to have any controversy). I like Grads, and was a supporter of his, but I also agreed with the JC guys assessment that Grads made some mind-boggling bad decisions in a few games.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Anyone can find negative things to say about a backup QB that is why they are not starters in the NFL hence the word backup.
IMO anyone mentioned today would be better than Boller.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
The General Manager who’s lost 57% of his games for the last 23 years, and is still on the Team, is a more relevant convo, no?
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No because that GM is not a replacable employee of the team. He owns it. Its like talking about relocating Mt Everest because you dont like the way it looks. Its impossible so why waste the time yapping about it.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
# ArchiveTony Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Wow JC owned the afc west, peep these numbers
In 2010, Campbell was incredibly efficient in the passing throwing for completion percentage of 68 percent. To go with that, he threw for seven touchdowns and two interceptions with a quarterback rating of 106.88.
Campbell also threw for 8.7 yards per attempt and had a touchdown rushing.- Carl cockerahm
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First off, did you really paste a comment from some idiot from bleachers?
JC’s rating wasn’t 106, it was around 86.
Didn’t avg 8.7, was more around 7.3.
didn’t avg 68% throwing, was 59% or so.
Wake up
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Oh no not you again. The numbers were against the afc west. Jc dominated in the division. he posted great numbers vs the afc west and got the ws’ to back them up. There is on argument against this fact.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Bcz24 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
No because that GM is not a replacable employee of the team. He owns it. Its like talking about relocating Mt Everest because you dont like the way it looks. Its impossible so why waste the time yapping about it.
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Why waste time yapping about Bruce Gradkowski?
June 27th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Lefty12, I’m going to disagree with this disclaimer letting it rip to me means play loose with the football. That means throw it and let the chips fall where they may. I don’t like it and I never really bought into it. A QB has to be himself he has to read and throw he has to anticipate yes. But to anticipate is reading and getting the ball out. He does that but with these young guys if he did what Cable said he’d throw a lot of picks. Most would be the rec’s fault because these guys do not make a lot plays. Give him Larry Fitz and Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson and I’ll say let it rip all day…….But with these guys we have……….HHHHeeelllll NOOO!!
June 27th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
If you like Wallace that is your right.I believe we could do MUCH better and in fact believe we are already better with Boller.Wallace was given the opportunity to start in both Seattle and Cleveland and couldn’t seize the opportunity either place.And old,beaten up Hasselback and a rookie in C.McCoy beat him out in both places.He was nothing but a stopgap in Cleveland.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Bcz24 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
No because that GM is not a replacable employee of the team. He owns it. Its like talking about relocating Mt Everest because you dont like the way it looks. Its impossible so why waste the time yapping about it.
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Exactly, keep losing and STFU!
-Al Davis Bootlickers.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Bcz24
They call him Checkdown Edward here in Bills country.
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I went to see the Raiders play in Buffalo back in the day. I was trying to get Howie Longs autograph during warm ups along with a bunch of other raider fans. The stadium isn’t even located in Buffalo is it? I thought it was called Orchard Park or something like that.
June 27th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
By saying let her rip I mean just go play the game,don’t over analyze or over think everything.Just go play.i don’t believe it means throw the ball all over the yard,just relax and play the game you’ve been playing all your life.I believe that is what Cable meant.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
My god the scabkowski thing again?!?!?!?!?
Face it he sucks!!!!! Scabkowski wont even be in the nfl nexct year. He wasnt brought back because he isnt good enough, point blank.
Anybody that thinks scabkowski belong on the same field with JC has no idea about football, or has an agenda that has nothing to do with on the field play.
Scabs carerre numbers are down right lousy: 362 of 682 comp/att, 53 % completion percentage (laughable). 3883 yds, 20 tds 23 ints,
June 27th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
666-Boller has had some great games in this league with a team that consistently had less offensive talent than we have.I won’t change your mind about him,or even try for that matter.Personally,I like him-as a back up.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Ok then fine, I do believe in looking at these games over again he did it almost as much as it made sense to do it. These guys we have leave a lot to be desired I also believe that is the reason he did what he sis this offseason to try and get on the same page with them. Because you can tell he wnats to do some things with the ball but doesn’t feel comfortable enough in his rec’s to just throw passes downfield for little to no results. He’s doing the best he can with what he has.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
sorry for the double post this is what i meant to say
My god the scabkowski thing again?!?!?!?!?
Face it he sucks!!!!! Scabkowski wont even be in the nfl next year. He wasnt brought back because he isnt good enough, point blank.
Anybody that thinks scabkowski belong on the same field with JC has no idea about football, or has an agenda that has nothing to do with on the field play.
Scabs career numbers are down right lousy: 362 of 682 comp/att, 53 % completion percentage (laughable). 3883 yds, 20 tds 23 ints, a qb rating of 65.9
HE STINKS OUT LOUD!!!
Jc career stats comp/ att 1196 of 1966 60.8 % (way higher than scabs) 13247 yds 68td 46 int 82.6 rating.
Im afraid these numbers are nothing like scabs numbers. JC is head shoulders and jock strap above scabs….plain and simple.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Lefty12 I tend to agree on Boller unless we can get a Hasselback or a Gerrard or even someone like McNabb. I prefer a grizzled vet who’s done it backing him up. We need someone who can give some quality starts if he goes down.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Mistic1 You are killing Grads man….leave these guys some dignity. LOL!
June 27th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Maybe later in the year that can be said,but not in the games at the beginning of the season.Hopefully the work-outs will improve the chemistry between himself and the WRs.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I dont even rank scabs highly as a back up, i can think of a million other guys that i would rather have.
T smith, dennis Dixon, josh johnson, kyle boller, marc bulger, tavaris jackson, and so on.
Scabkowski is one of the worst qbs to ever wear a raider uniform. i wouldnt even rank him in my all time raider back up top 10.
he sucks get over it.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Lefty12 totally agree!!
June 27th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
McNabb is through.Plus I doubt he will ever be able to accept the fact that is should be nothing better than a back up at this point in his career.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Why is Garrard even being mentioned, he’s not available. He’s got 2 more years on his contract i believe. They drafted Blaine Gabbert to groom him behind Garrard for a year or 2.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I’m not sure McNabb is through but he’s nowhere near what he once was. If he can take a backup role I would love for it to be here. That is a serious pipe dream I know but it would be the ultimate situation here for us.
I bet he’s wishing he had taken Big Al up on his first offer. Going to DC was a disaster.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Just got done watching the NFL replay of the Colts game (you out there J???).
First eye-opening thing, was that MM34 was on the field THE ENTIRE GAME. And he was absolutely scorched THE ENTIRE GAME.
I counted 8 completions on the man MM34 was covering. Peyton completed 16 passes the whole game. Yes, half of his passes completed all day were on Mitchell’s guy, and a few times he was beat so incredibly bad. Including a crucial 3rd and 8 at the end of the game, when Tamme completely abused him for 12 of the easiest yards of his life. Pathetic.
I know Veldheer had a tough draw against Freeney and Mathis, and not too many LT’s have good games against those two. Well include Veldheer in the group, because he was culpable for 3 sacks that day. He and Gallery allowed the pocket too collapse all game long.
Soup played OK, but a couple of bad tosses in the second half on crucial plays. One 3rd and 7 when he had all the time in the world against a 3 man rush, and he throws it at the feet of Bush, who was standing maybe 7 feet from him. Not good. Another was the crucial 2nd and 7, when he could have ran for a first, or thrown a good pass to Miller for a first. He did neither, choosing to throw a pass a good 3 yards behind Miller. Next play, sack allowed by Veldheer.
Again, Cooper Carlisle played really, really well. Just about every good run was with him sealing off his man. He definately got the better end of #95 for the Colts that day.
Kameron Wimbley??? Nice to have your starting DE have 1 unassisted tackel the whole game, with all those running plays. Never put any pressure on Manning, never made a play in the running game. Sure glad we quadrupled his salary next year!!!!
That should be enough to chew on for starters.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
You are ridiculous Mystic.The guy may not be starter quality or have JCs ability,but he isn’t the terrible scrub you want others to believe he is.You lose some credibility with your outlandish statements.Grad is a decent back up QB who is ok if he has to come in and finish a game if your starter can’t finish it.Even the old man stated in his press conference Grads problem is he just can’t stay healthy.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Can’t effin belive that lowlife carpetbagger Frank McCourt has the huevos to list Vin Scully to the tune of 153k, on the “un-secured creditors” page(s) in his Dodgers bankruptcy declaration today..
I’m not much of a Dodger fan, but how in the freaking world, can you be so much in hock not to be able to afford to pay Vin?..
Sorry for the rant, back to football. Carry on…
June 27th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
The problem with the Indy game, was having Soup throw the ball 43 times, instead of running it 43 times.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
GM is not a replacable employee of the team. He owns it. Its like talking about relocating Mt Everest because you dont like the way it looks. Its impossible so why waste the time yapping about it.
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LOL @ BCZ’s response to Kell
June 27th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
JFB something wrong with you dude? that was one of the worse games Tyvon Branch played all year. MM34 didn’t play well either but Branch got killed I remember thinking why don’t they take him out of the game. We played decent against Manning but in the end, his guys made plays our guys didn’t.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
The game dictated he throw that wasn’t the gameplan we needed to come from behind they had to abandon the run.
June 27th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Just got done watching the NFL replay of the Colts game (you out there J???).
First eye-opening thing, was that MM34 was on the field THE ENTIRE GAME. And he was absolutely scorched THE ENTIRE GAME.
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JFB,
the Colts ran all over us that game. So are you saying that Mitch can’t cover or tackle?
Does that put him in the Dorsett/Pope/Gibson/Schweigert/Eugene pile?
Still hope for him in YR3 (like DHB) ???
June 27th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
The game dictated he throw that wasn’t the gameplan we needed to come from behind they had to abandon the run.
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Stick with what you’re good at.
If you can run it, run it on the Colts. Down by 3 or 30
If you can’t complete a pass to save your life, limit those oppotunities for sacks, turnovers & penalties.
What are the chances of DMAC breaking a big one versus JCamp bombing one down to Murphy or DHB for a score when your down by 8 in the 4th?
June 27th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Take away Zach Miller versus the Colts and JCamp is 20/33 for 165 yards and no TD’s
Instead he went 29/42, 231 yards. TD
Should Zmil be resigned ???
June 27th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
the Colts ran all over us that game. So are you saying that Mitch can’t cover or tackle?
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They ran at him all game long.
He never once made a play. He made 5 solo tackles, AND EVERY ONE OF THEM were from completions he gave up.
Him and Wimbley were on the field for 90% of the runs, right there in the mix at the LOS.
1 tackle combined between the two against the run.
Pathetic.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Soup got the ball, down 12 with 7:30 to go and 3 timeouts.
He threw four 5 yard passes. Two complete, two incomplete, 4 and out.
Got the ball back after our D forced a three and out, with 5:45 to go and 2 timeouts.
Not being able to score the TD before the 2 minute warning (because of the dink and dunk) forced us to have to on-side kick. Kudos for getting it in (he finished the drive well) but it took waaaaay too much time matriculating the ball up the field.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
John Henderson, 11 tackles (an amazing 9 solo’s) and a TFL.
McClain, 5 tackles, 1 TFL, caused both INT’s with tight coverage.
TK, 5 tackles, 1 TFL.
Interior did their job, all the big yardage was mostly on the edge other than one run up the middle in the second half.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
15 of Soup’s passes were thrown on his last two drives.
I don’t think we threw it too much before that. We had to score points to keep up, and we couldn’t shake Darren free.
Hue could have cut out the multiple runs to Reece in the first half though. No way should Marchel Reece have as many carries as Mike Bush in a game.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Anyone who doesn’t think Gradkwoski won’t be on roster next year, knows nothing about football.
He will be on a team, as the #2, and probably will get at least one start next year.
I will take any bets on this.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Mistic points out that Bruce’s completion % of 53.2 is “laughable” than says he would rather have Troy Smith, who even has a more laughable 51%.
Josh Johnson????? His career QB rating is worse than Bruce’s in the Miami game.
Yes those guys are improvements, lol. The only improvement they are in skin color for Mistic1.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Do you guys know anything about football? if they use a prevent defense on you to take away the deep ball should he force it and get picked to end the game, or take what they give him and get a TD then try the onside kick?
Some of you have scrambled eggs for brains. JC did what Payton Manning or any competent QB would do, get what you can. Make sure you get 1st downs and score to say anything other than that is ridiculously ignorant.
That defense is damn good he was going against they pressure you and play excellent zone defense. If he holds the ball looking to go deep he’ll get sacked or picked he did what a smart QB would do in that situation.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Priest on the second to last drive, Soup threw one ball into tight double coverage to a WR.
Murphy made the catch for about 23 yards.
Never tried it again.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Soup threw one ball into tight double coverage to a WR.
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Lmao! Not sure which wr was targeted, just a few in the general area? Murphy wanted it more!
June 27th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
JFB He didn’t play perfect I’m saying he’s doing what gave us the best chance to win. He is capable of making stick throws he’s demonstrated that ability. But in that situation he did as fine a job as anyone can ask for. Time was running out he had to go against a fierce pass rush and make plays. He got the job done. We just didn’t get the onside kick. Our defense gave up 31 pts. You’re not going to win many of those.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
If we somehow get that onside kick I think we win that game. We just didn’t play well as a team and the Colts did.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
They got Kappy vs Blaine Gabbert on Classics just in case anyones interested.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Our D did give up 31 points, but they did get two turnovers that put our offense in a short field, and our ST’s housed a kickoff and Seabass made two 50+ FG’s.
Pass-protection was an issue, but it was clearly Gallery and Veldheer getting beat like a drum, and our edges were contaminated all game long. Carlisle and Satele held the middle all game.
When you are doing 12 though, with over 5 minutes to go, you can’t take it past the two minute warning to score because it took you 12 passes to get in. If he could have trimmed that up by 40 seconds, there would have been no need for the onside kick.
The onside kick was forced, because we took so long to score on offense.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
It’s true that talking about Al stepping down is a waste of time. But that doesn’t mean homerish shills for him, or shameless attempts to deflect from his responsibility, should go unchecked.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
The main reason I talk about Al is to counter those who deflect from his accountability. When I see someone blaming a certain player for how bad the team has sucked for a long period of time, yeah, I’m talking about Al, and repeating some of the same old jabs at him. Get used to it.
June 27th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Lol @MR…..his only evidence for Grad over JC is a quick release. What good is a quick release when its not accurate? And no grad isnt more mobile than JC….he doesnt evade pressure better
June 27th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
wow soup is 29/42 for 231 & a td , & people are in here trying to find fault with his game. smh
June 27th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
MR….why are you lying that stats wise grad and jc were almost even? Any idiot can see that is false
June 27th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Mistic….i dont think JC is an all pro QB at all. I do see him as best qb for this team for 2011
June 27th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
They are almost even stat wise, Brien.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I’m not sure McNabb is through but he’s nowhere near what he once was. If he can take a backup role I would love for it to be here. That is a serious pipe dream I know but it would be the ultimate situation here for us.
I bet he’s wishing he had taken Big Al up on his first offer. Going to DC was a disaster.
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Yeah he is probably kicking himself in the A$$ for that move….F him…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
I’d rather have someone like Michael Vick than Jason Campbell. I don’t like Campbell’s slow release. He’s one of those QBs that just plays the game in slow motion. Al loves those lanky QBs that have a release that’s like watching paint dry.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Soup was like 17 for 27 for 140 yards and no TD’s with 7 minutes to go in the game, and had produced all of 3 FG’s.
Did a little stad-padding at the end to pump up the numbers.
He didn’t play bad, and he didn’t play well. Lots of short passes, and failed 3rd downs.
During the game, they showed a stat that the Raiders were the worst 3rd down and 7+ passing team in the entire league. No doubt the O-line and WR has something to do with that, but that is also clearly on the QB’s (both Bruce and Soup).
June 27th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
JC has to put it all together in 2011. Its his team and players like him at QB. He gonna have to reward ppl’s faith in him
June 27th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Mistic points out that Bruce’s completion % of 53.2 is “laughable” than says he would rather have Troy Smith, who even has a more laughable 51%.
Josh Johnson????? His career QB rating is worse than Bruce’s in the Miami game.
Yes those guys are improvements, lol. The only improvement they are in skin color for Mistic1.
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JFB your disgusting.
The first thing you look at is if the qb is black or not? Put away the basset hound and the rope, & join us in 2011 troglodyte.
The guys that i mentioned have far more talent then scabkowski could ever dream of, and that isnt based just purely on completion percentage. i havent made any statement that rely solely on completion percentage as a foundation for my case.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
sounds like he took with the D gave…I got no prob with JC, as he gives us the best chance to win in 2011-2012…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
MR….HOW?…..I saw 5 tds 7 ints low 50s pass pct 1 win for Grad. How are they even?
June 27th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Nice way to cherry pick the stats that favor Campbell heavily, Brien. I was talking overall.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
As long as JC knows who the real ballers and get the ball to them and not the pretenders we will be straight.
Only concern is on the Oline with the youth…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Campbell sucks, Brien. You have about a 3 count to get rid of the football in today’s NFL. Campbell’s release takes about 12 seconds.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
A Qb needs to main traits…..Accuracy and Decision making….if he doesnt have those he isnt worth schit. Grad’s accuracy? Decision making? Thanks lol
June 27th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Cherry pick? Lol dont get upset cuz I called you on your bs again
June 27th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Well, Mistic, if JFB is ‘going there’ with race, perhaps this can shed some light as to why:
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
If dude wants grads he is on the pipe…and pick which one…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Soup was like 17 for 27 for 140 yards and no TD’s with 7 minutes to go in the game, and had produced all of 3 FG’s.
Did a little stad-padding at the end to pump up the numbers.
He didn’t play bad, and he didn’t play well. Lots of short passes, and failed 3rd downs.
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If you count trying to drive the team for a td when your behind in the game, as stat padding ,then how can you rally have an intelligent conversation about qb play?
You have to throw short when the defense is taking away the deep and intermediate pass. Jc took what the defense gave & you cant point to a turn over that JC is responsible for that caused the team to lose.
splitting hairs beyond that is simply sour grapes from scabs fans
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Overall stats? Lol not even close….in this or any lifetime lol
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Brien, pointing to stats that support your argument while omitting all others is not calling someone on their b.s. It’s being full of b.s., actually.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
The first thing you look at is if the qb is black or not?
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No that’s what I believe YOU LOOK AT.
How else do you explain mocking Bruce’s stats, than saying you would rather have guys that have even worse stats.
Why do Troy Smith and Josh Johnson have more talent than Bruce?? They were picked just about 15 spots ahead of Bruce, still late in the draft, and have produced just as little.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Colts beat us that day. When Manning had to make clutch throws he did and JC didnt do enough. End of story
June 27th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Mistic, JFB’s biggest nightmare is Jason Campbell jumping out of his bedroom window when he comes home from work. That could be his problem with him.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Mistic, JFB’s biggest nightmare is Jason Campbell jumping out of his bedroom window when he comes home from work. That could be his problem with him.
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ROFLMAO….Thats funny however, if you read what JFB was saying that is not his issue…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Besides Lionel Ritchie wasnt on the table it was dark skinned blk guys…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Goodbye, guys. Brien. Time to go put in some work for the hood. Got my paintball gun loaded. Forrest Grove Gated Community better not be slipping. We’re beefin with those fools. Wood Creek Estates!
June 27th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Brien, pointing to stats that support your argument while omitting all others is not calling someone on their b.s. It’s being full of b.s., actually.
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Dummy you said it was almost even stats wise not me lol
June 27th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Campbell sucks, Brien. You have about a 3 count to get rid of the football in today’s NFL. Campbell’s release takes about 12 seconds.
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You also have to be accurate and make good decisions…..Grad does neither
June 27th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Goodbye, guys. Brien. Time to go put in some work for the hood. Got my paintball gun loaded. Forrest Grove Gated Community better not be slipping. We’re beefin with those fools. Wood Creek Estates!
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Really feel bad for the guy nowadays
June 27th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
LOL….lesson from the other night is don’t drink and blog.
Can’t give your enemy any ammo, and I put in on a platter for him.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Curry and Klay<—————–BANNNNNNNG! Long Range killin ya b-tch ass Lakers
June 27th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
No way should we re-sign Bruce, but I do believe we should bring in someone better than Kyle Boller.
Raiders haven’t had a QB start 16 games in 8 years. Soup has played 16 games, twice out of 6 years.
Chances of Campbell playing all 16 games next year are pretty slim, and I have zero confidence in Kyle Boller or Chuck Potato.
I think Trent Edwards would be a good signing. No to VY, Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
VR you solid with me…we dont agree on all but you cool
June 27th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
No way should we re-sign Bruce, but I do believe we should bring in someone better than Kyle Boller.
Raiders haven’t had a QB start 16 games in 8 years. Soup has played 16 games, twice out of 6 years.
Chances of Campbell playing all 16 games next year are pretty slim, and I have zero confidence in Kyle Boller or Chuck Potato.
I think Trent Edwards would be a good signing. No to VY, Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb.
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LOL cant say I disagree
June 27th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I think Trent Edwards would be a good signing. No to VY, Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb.
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Yeah especially no to mcnabb f him and his horse…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Thec07 Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I think Trent Edwards would be a good signing. No to VY, Carson Palmer and Donovan McNabb.
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Yeah especially no to mcnabb f him and his horse…
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LOL….tell him to toss his cookies again
June 27th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
LOL….tell him to toss his cookies again
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hahahaha Dumb F@K could have been with a winner…
He wont be starting anywhere unless someone goes down…
June 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
anywho its ghost time….1 NATION….
June 27th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
The first thing you look at is if the qb is black or not?
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No that’s what I believe YOU LOOK AT.
How else do you explain mocking Bruce’s stats, than saying you would rather have guys that have even worse stats.
Why do Troy Smith and Josh Johnson have more talent than Bruce?? They were picked just about 15 spots ahead of Bruce, still late in the draft, and have produced just as little.
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Still lowering the bar? You cant clean it up, you made this about race. You obsess over race so much that you totally missed the fact that i mentioned white qbs bulger and boller as better back ups as well……sickening.
As far as my opinion that t smith and johnson are better players than grads, is simple. Troy smith has joined the 9ers 3-4 weeks into the season, had to learn an offense and a team and posted decent numbers and a winning record as the starter.
3 wins 2 loses. 121/234 comp att 51.7 comp percentage ( 4 10ths of a percent below grads) 5td 4 int 1734 yds 77.8 rating.
except for the completion percentage troy smith is better in every category. bruce was in camp from the beginning and didnt need to get to know team mates, he just sucked.
Johnson is another kid that i think has a higher ceiling than bruce. bruce has maxed out, he has hit his ceiling, and it is somewhere just below every other nfl qb’s protective cup.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Bruce better head to the ufl so he can back up pat white
June 27th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Troy Smith was 3-3 and a 50.3 completion % (which would have been worst in the NFL if he had qualified).
He started with 2 100+ QB ratings, than went 51, 61, 64, 62.
All four of those starts were statistically worse or just as bad as Bruce’s treacherous Miami game.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Bruce is not going to the UFL.
Josh Johnson?? Probably, if he is lucky.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Bruce will still be in NFL….but for how long? lol
June 27th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I was hoping the Bills would draft a QB and maybe let Fitzpatrick become expandable.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Troy Smith was 3-3 and a 50.3 completion % (which would have been worst in the NFL if he had qualified).
He started with 2 100+ QB ratings, than went 51, 61, 64, 62.
All four of those starts were statistically worse or just as bad as Bruce’s treacherous Miami game.
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Both suck
June 27th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Bruce will still be in NFL….but for how long? lol
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Depends on his health.
The guy was drafted in the 6th round, been hurt a ton, and been released multiple times…..yet he has found a way to start a game in every year of his career.
The guy is like a cockroach, you can’t kill him, lol.
I believe he will weasel his way into at least one start next year as well.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Troy Smith was 3-3 and a 50.3 completion % (which would have been worst in the NFL if he had qualified).
He started with 2 100+ QB ratings, than went 51, 61, 64, 62.
All four of those starts were statistically worse or just as bad as Bruce’s treacherous Miami game.
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Troy played without knowing the offense, he was picked up in season off the street!! To come in and start after being on the team for 3 weeks is remarkable. I have to say that if he had been in camp from the start his numbers would be better.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
I dont think many teams are in the market for a terribly fragile qb, who makes bone headed decisions with the ball, is a turn over machine and a career loser. Not to mention he has the weakest arm in nfl history. Ive seen kangaroos with better arms than scabs
June 27th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Smith was picked up a week before the season started for crying out loud, not during the season, and didn’t start until 7 weeks after he was signed, for crying out loud.
Signed Sept 6th, season started Sept 12th. Started first game Oct. 27th.
Your not a very good researcher.
I think the fact that Troy Smith was not even on an NFL roster until a week before the season starts, speaks to his talent level.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Smith was picked up a week before the season started for crying out loud, not during the season, and didn’t start until 7 weeks after he was signed, for crying out loud.
Signed Sept 6th, season started Sept 12th. Started first game Oct. 27th.
Your not a very good researcher.
I think the fact that Troy Smith was not even on an NFL roster until a week before the season starts, speaks to his talent level.
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He is still better than bruce. To join a team a week before the season started, miss the entire preseason and camp means you dont get a chance to learn the offense or your team mates. it was execptional what he did in a disaster year under singltary’s sinking ship.
Bruce sucked for no reason at all!
June 27th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
To join a team a week before the season started, miss the entire preseason and camp means you dont get a chance to learn the offense or your team mates.
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It also means you are a talentless hack who barely made an NFL roster before the season started.
Pretty sure Bruce has a stronger arm than Troy Smith. I have seen Bruce throw the ball 60+ yards in the air in the Miami game, never seen Smith do that.
June 27th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Bruce = frodo baggins. Glad he is gone from the nfl, good riddance. the only way he gets back into the nfl is to buy a ticket like the rest of us.
The only team that i have read that even as much as kicked the tires on bruce are the vikings. he better hope he lands there as the number 3. Ponder stinks but he will be better than scabs, & Joe webb is far & away better than scabs
June 27th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Gradkowski holds multiple NFL records, and a few Raider records.
Most passes between 1st and 2nd int in career (NFL record). First QB to throw 3 4th quarter TD’s when trailing (NFL record).
And that day in Pitt broke some Raider 4th quarter records as well.
How many NFL and 49er records does Troy Smith hold??
June 27th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
The only team that i have read that even as much as kicked the tires on bruce are the vikings.
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Yeah, because teams are really “kicking the tires” of players around the league right now.
LMAO!!!
Good chance Bruce goes to Minny and starts the first few weeks of the year until Ponder is ready.
But I think he will go to Indy and be Peyton’s caddy and #2 for a few years. That’s my hunch.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
my hunch…. bruce gets cut in camp by the toronto Argonauts and ends up a practice squad player in the arena league 2
June 27th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
After the INDY game, Peyton talked to Bruce more than just about anyone else.
I think Bruce was pitching him hard as to his knowledge of the fairways in NFL cities.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
my hunch…. bruce gets cut in camp by the toronto Argonauts and ends up a practice squad player in the arena league 2
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Are we supposed to take this serious??
Stop bloviating already. We get it, you don’t like Bruce.
Guess what, he will be on an NFL roster next year, and probably will get signed within the first week of NFL free agency.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I would even take alex smith over scabs
June 27th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Well of course Alex Smith, he was the #1 overall pick and a consensus first round talent.
How come he didn’t make your list of raw talents you like?
Hmmmmm…….
June 27th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Well of course Alex Smith, he was the #1 overall pick and a consensus first round talent.
How come he didn’t make your list of raw talents you like?
Hmmmmm…….
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because he sucks, but not as bad your boy scabs
June 27th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
LOL Mistic
June 27th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I think Alex Smith would push Soup for the starting job.
Same type of stats, same type of disappointing career so far and sub 50% winning percentage for their career.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I think Alex Smith would push Soup for the starting job.
Same type of stats, same type of disappointing career so far and sub 50% winning percentage for their career.
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JFB please……
smith 57.1 comp % 9399 yds 51 td 53 int 721. rating
JC 60.8 % 13247 yds 68td 46 int 82.6 rating.
JFB alex smith isnt even close to JC…try again
June 27th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Smith sure looked like the better QB when they went head-to-head last year.
Both in preseason and regular season.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
two game sample size vs looking at the entire career or body of work. Big picture jfb alex smith isnt in the same universe as JC
June 27th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
This is the funniest thing I can ever remember reading in a long time; This is a guy who’s clueless about the game itself because he’s focused on stats.
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Our D did give up 31 points, but they did get two turnovers that put our offense in a short field, and our ST’s housed a kickoff and Seabass made two 50+ FG’s.
Pass-protection was an issue, but it was clearly Gallery and Veldheer getting beat like a drum, and our edges were contaminated all game long. Carlisle and Satele held the middle all game.
When you are doing 12 though, with over 5 minutes to go, you can’t take it past the two minute warning to score because it took you 12 passes to get in. If he could have trimmed that up by 40 seconds, there would have been no need for the onside kick.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
JFB You need a check up from the neck up, this isn’t video games man this is live bullets and great players trying to make plays on both sides of the ball. Your post #320 is clearly out of touch with reality.
Take a break from Madden dude…………just sayin’!
June 27th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
I haven’t played Madden in 10 years.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Fact is Priest, if we scored on the other side of the two minute warning in that game, we would not have had to on-side kick.
Al Davis had a problem with that drive as well, and said so in his presser.
When your down 12 with 5 minutes to go, you can’t throw 5 yard passes in the middle of the field consistantly.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Gradkowski has a Career 66 passer Rating. Soup’s is 84. Not even close.
His relevancy here is Troll=Race baiting, period.
He’s out of football, just like JaMarcus Russell.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
On a side note, some scary ish going on in this state with the fires.
Los Alamos National Lab is real close to a huge fire, and this place is about to go up in flames.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Al Davis didn’t say a dman thing because he doesn’t do post game pressers. Also JC didn’t just throw 5 yard passes including the TD pass was 11 yarder. He threw the ball where people were and did so accurately. If you try to do more maybe he’s throwing incompletions or getting sacked. He was taking 5 step drops and getting the ball out……….what don’t you understand about that? He had Freeney and Co. breathing down his neck dude he’s lucky he got done what he got done……………period
I’m starting to think you are a bird brain. This isn’t the greatest show on turf. Dude!!
June 27th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Al Davis had a problem with that drive as well, and said so in his presser.
When your down 12 with 5 minutes to go, you can’t throw 5 yard passes in the middle of the field consistantly.
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I think this is where the trouble started, Al Davis. With the Raiders out of the playoff picture, Davis wanted to see Campbell shoot it out with Peyton manning.
Soup throwing the ball 43 times should have never be on the gameplan last year, the way we ran it.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Incompletion would have been better at times, with the clock being our biggest enemy.
We played right into what Indy wanted us to do. Take forever to score and have the game come down to an onside kick.
Al mades his comments at the Cable firing presser.
June 27th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
JFB the QB has to throw the ball where people are OPEN it was a PREVENT DEFENSE man they force you to throw in the middle of teh field.
How frreakin long have you been watching football?? The defense is designed to make you throw short passes in the middle of the field to run the clock out. I cannot believe I’m actually explaining this to someone.
STOP READING STATS and WATCH THE FREAKIN GAMES!!!
June 27th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Kell……thats on Hue for offensive gameplan vs Indy. Dont somehow suggest it was Al’s mandate JC drop back damn near 50 times
June 27th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I’ll anxiously wait for MR and Ninerwoman49 to come to Grad’s rescue
June 27th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I keep reading from you JC lovers how horrible Grad is.
Can’t even make it in the NFL.
Except he played for the Raiders.
And not once, but TWICE LAST YEAR HUE LOOKED AT JC’S PLAY AND SAID HE MUCH PREFERS GRAD IN.
So, considering how many of you think Grad sucks so bad he shouldn’t even be in the NFL (doesn’t say much for our scouting team)according to Hue, and Cable, he was still a better option than JC.
In other words, Grad sucks.
JC, according to THE CURRENT HEAD COACH OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS, IS EVEN WORSE.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I’ll say it again for those of you who need it explained.
Grad sucked.
JC also sucks.
JC was benched, twice, and Grad put in.
And some of you are happy with JC?
Amazing.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Gradkowski has a Career 66 passer Rating. Soup’s is 84. Not even close.
His relevancy here is Troll=Race baiting, period.
He’s out of football, just like JaMarcus Russell.
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Two posters here consistently bring up race.
Only two.
You and TJ.
Biggest racist POS on the board.
You blame whitey because you are unemployed, and have earned zero the last few years.
It’s not whitey.
It’s not because of your color.
It’s because you’re lazy.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Indy game was bad day for the defense….on offense we just didnt score enough TDs. We moved it some but just couldnt make it happen
June 27th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
And gawd, not Alex Smith.
Not troy Smith.
Not Grad.
Please!
June 27th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Kell……thats on Hue for offensive gameplan vs Indy. Dont somehow suggest it was Al’s mandate JC drop back damn near 50 times
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So quick to suck on Al? lol.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
JC is cool at qb as long as we dont think he is Johnny Unitas lol. Grad way worse than JC. Hue panicked and paid dearly for it
June 27th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Sup Bauce in da house?
June 27th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Can’t really blame Hue.
qb rating was something like 7 at teh time for JC, either for the first half, or the previous game, don’t recall.
had to do something.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Tony….Grad is 52 pct comp and has more turnovers than tds and had damn near as many ints as JC in only 4 games lol
June 27th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Hey, I agree Grad sucks.
He does.
Just don’t think JC is the answer lng term.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
ArchiveTony Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Biggest racist POS on the board.
You blame whitey because you are unemployed, and have earned zero the last few years.
It’s not whitey.
It’s not because of your color.
It’s because you’re lazy.
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You must have me confused with Brien.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Tony…..hue was right for it in the STL game…but thats it. JC should have started the AZ and Mia games
June 27th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Kell…hue calls the plays….he designs the gameplan on offense not Al……….now defense he sure has his hand in it
June 27th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Kell lol…..ppl way on to ya man. You are the troll in this blog. If no one hates Al like you all of a sudden you get pissed
June 27th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Kell…hue calls the plays….he designs the gameplan on offense not Al……….now defense he sure has his hand in it
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Your only job in life, is cleaning Al Davis’ shoes. Not credible.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Kell….what about those links I had for ya last week? Still believe Moss did Woodson in or what?
June 27th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
ArchiveTony Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Biggest racist POS on the board.
You blame whitey because you are unemployed, and have earned zero the last few years.
It’s not whitey.
It’s not because of your color.
It’s because you’re lazy.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
June 27th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Lol Kelly what does that have to do with Hue calling and designing the plays? If Im Al’s shoeshine guy or what have you had nada to do with JC DROPPING BACK 50 TIMES
June 27th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
We just couldn’t run on Indy we tried and tried and the run was struggling forcing JC to throw to get yards. We were always in 3rd and long due to run plays getting blown up. It just worked out that way. IMO
June 27th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Hahahaha Kell and his copied files
June 27th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
@ArchiveTony
ArchiveTony Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Biggest racist POS on the board.
You blame whitey because you are unemployed, and have earned zero the last few years.
It’s not whitey.
It’s not because of your color.
It’s because you’re lazy.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
June 27th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
BHP….i was at that game….I was hanging with Drexl …..cool guy. But we got worked that day on both sides of ball
June 27th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Hey Kell since u save every post…..go pull up those two links from last week
June 27th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Kell….got a link?
June 27th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Bauce I agree and have been saying so all day, you just ahve to give credit where credit is due. They shut down our running game and made us beat them passing and we weren’t good enough to do it……..period Plus the defense got handled!!
Give Indy credit they executed and we didn’t….
June 27th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
When Gruden and Kiffin ran the offense in Oakland it was dink and dunk…..now we got Kell’s LINK and LUMP offense
June 27th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I’m watching Gabbert take apart Nevada he is superb in this game.
June 27th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
BHP…yep Indy won division and were in a fight with Jags all the way thru…..they showed us what a playoff team looks like
June 27th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
I like Gabbert as a qb
June 27th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Kell….got them links yet?
June 27th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Brien, why don’t you & Priestj spend a little more time together commesurating
June 27th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Was putting up those links a form of bootlicking?
June 27th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Kell u are lost….just stop now lol. That last post didnt make any damn sense. U remind me of the two Asians in South Park……”City Wok vs City Sushi”….no one understands a damn thing out ur mouth
June 27th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Checking out this schedule for the 1st half of the season and it’s not looking that bad. All depends on how fast these young guys gell on the oline will determine our start.
@ Den: WIN= I think we’ll come out swinging. Orton or Tebow, it doesn’t matter to me. They’ll get harrassed all night by our pass rush.
@ Buff: WIN= The Jills once again rebuilding, bottom of the afc east.
NYJ: WIN= This game is going to be a battle in the trenches and can go either way imo. We can’t let these guys run like they did last time in our house. Sanchez doesn’t impress me.
NE: LOSS= As much as i hate Brady, he’ll probably pick us apart until we knock him out of the game with a concussion.
@ Hou: LOSS= Arian Foster and his back up ran all over us last year. Schaub, A. Johnson and O Daniels rebounding from his injury will be too much imo to handle.
Cle: WIN= Coming off a 2 game lose streak, we take it out on Peyton Hillis and co.
KC: WIN= Home game against 1 of our most hated rivals, we’ll be amped! D get’s after Cassell and we win a close 1. Mcfadden runs wild!
Den: WIN= another home game and a sweep of the Donks! gotta win this for momentum before the bye.
I’m just having fun with this, what’s yall’s thoughts? I believe we can go 5-2 before the bye!
June 27th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Deja…we need a few more players to be 5-2 at bye
June 27th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Kell….how about u delve deeper into me being against paying taxes and being against socialism at the same time lol. That was funny
June 27th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Hey Kell….lets talk about the successful Barry No adminstration……u see that jump shot? U see those smooth playa moves he displayed on the rug doctoring lesbo show Ellen…..to Beyonce nonetheless
June 27th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Hey Kell….what about the NAACP being started by a black person? lol that one was rich
June 27th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
i was at that indy game also and the feeling inside the stadium was of disappointment.we all knew we had just been eliminated from the PO’s and the team looked flat and played flat.indy did indeed show us what a proven champion is. we must remember that we are in the infant stages of becoming good and we got served a lesson. gameplan to run wide instead of in the middle was horrible. not using bush enuff was stupid. sometimes a team is better than u and they were.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Hey Kell u remember me slashin JaFartass Russell with my word on the street tales? Im just a poser and I didnt know shhht huh?
June 27th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Armond….my energy was zapped as soon as I saw KC score that first TD in the parking lot
June 27th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Back to you Kell…..again tell us about your vast traveling experience so you can remind us why you are a better person than we are
June 27th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
manning did not have a good game but he made clutch plays. jc could learn a lot by watching film of him that day as peyton was a pleasure to watch. if u ever get to see that guy live do it. the way he managed that game AND made crucial plays is why he is 1 of the best ever.t ho he barely completed 50% of his passes he made them count. the final call to bootleg to seal the win was him at his best. tuff loss but we can learn from it.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Also Kell talk about the jealousy and hate towards you because of your dime piece of a white wifey
June 27th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Armond Im not a big manning guy but to see him live was awesome. Cant wait to see Brady week 4
June 27th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
It was a tough loss Armond but it was a needed loss. It gave us more motivation to whack KC like we did
June 27th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Last time we ended a season in KC with a win was 1999…..it was a big boost going into 2000. Let’s see if 2011 does same……..I’ll never forget that game! Al Davis had the big grin on his face as Nedney won the game! and Darrel Russell’s post game smack talk….”if we go home they gotta go home”
June 27th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Yo Kell…come on man….waiting on ya!
June 27th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Kell how is that red corvette running these days?
June 27th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Kell is too busy selling a house I guess
June 27th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Kell….let’s discuss the farce surplus during the Clinton…..ok?
June 27th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Ok……guess that topic is too touchy for ya….alrighty then
June 27th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Kell how about the obvious division in the democratic party? Care to drop some knowledge? Prolly just will grab links
June 27th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
LOL…..the eventual responses from Kell will be classic…….CANT WAIT!
June 27th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Man, I guess I own you lock, stock and barrel. Carry on, I’ll come back later when the troll is gone.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Payton made a couple of throws in that game that showed he just plays the game different from everybody else. He sees the game different. That is damn near the best the game can be played. He had a bad game and was still magnificent when he needed to be. Once in a lifetimes type player.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Kell why dont we take a survey on that…..let’s see who bloggers say who owns who……notice you couldnt respond to any question
June 27th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
BHP yeah peyton is a HOF for sure but he may not make playoffs next year
June 27th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Wow this college world series game is good….going to extra frames
June 27th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
STOP READING STATS and WATCH THE FREAKIN GAMES!!!
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LOL…..uhhh the game was just on and I watched.
Rewound and re-watched every play. Focused on line play, when Soup took sacks who on the O-line got beat, was there anyone open. Watched the run D, to see who didn’t contain, who couldn’t dislodge off a block, who got beat in the pass-pattern, etc.
Like I said, Soup didn’t play bad, and didn’t play good. Our D forced two second half turnovers and got two 3 and outs also in the second half. Offense didn’t capitalize on the few opportunities we had created.
Offense couldn’t capitalize, our tackles were sieve’s all game long, and Wimbley and MM34 were manhandled all the time. I would specifically watch for them, as they would be out of position, not contain the edge, got blocked easily by TE’s, all game long.
Why don’t you go watch it and tell me where I am wrong.
June 27th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Priest, didn’t you admit yesterday that you never even actually watched the Colts game because it was blacked out??
June 27th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
MM34 brought to you by the Al Davis Project Subsidy Ltd. Drafted too high, overpaid, and underperformed. Typical.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Kell you are like Rodney Dnagerfield….no one respects ya
June 27th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
MM34 is fine at SS…..not even worried
June 27th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Dangerfield*
June 27th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Ooops, tj soiled his adult diaper again!
Hey tj, just keep talking like nobody is paying attention, ok buddy?
lol
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Just Fire Baby Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Priest, didn’t you admit yesterday that you never even actually watched the Colts game because it was blacked out??
June 27th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
brien he was awesome to watch. hoping we get qb play like that someday. i agree about it being a needed loss in some regards. the kc game was beautiful the following week. i think last year will propel us into the next era of great raider football like the 99 finale did. they just need to start the damn season already.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
start the offseason i guess i should say. jacob tamme is a very good te. i remember him in college and was hoping we’d take a flier on him to backup miller. he has good hands and just knows how to get open. ive been screaming for us to get 1 of those spread offense type of te’s for a couple years now. i dont care about the blocking as much as i do recieving. weve needed that bad. bill polian does an excellent job of finding guys who can catch the ball no matter what position and most arent eeven drafted high or at all.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
MM34 is fine at SS…..not even worried
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Oh, well sure, as long as you’re good BR. What, me worry?
June 27th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
I said the game was blacked out so I couldn’t DVR it but I did see it live and gave several accts. of what happened I happened to be in Disneyland with my two daughters and saw it at the ESPNZONE so I saw it live with some KC fans who were blasting me and I told them we would dominate them next week. I only wish I could see that old man again we did exactly what I said we would do to them.
June 27th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Ohio dont worry man…when MM34 and Branch are knockin cats out and creating turnovers u will feel better
June 27th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
JFB IMO you seem not understand the science of the game sometimes you quote stats but you miss the strategy of the game. You cannot understand that from stats they can only tell you so much. You have to actually watch the game to understand the stats quoting stats is like reading a history book. Sure you have facts but cause and affect and nuances are lacking in many cases. Get what i mean?
June 27th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Yeah Armond Polian does a good job. Record wise Indy has been best team in NFL since 99….had alot of players contribute
June 27th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Man South Carolina is one game away from back to back titles….Florida better step up….and is their cuurrently a better sports school than Florida? Since 06 they have back to back hoop titles,two natl titles in football and now in CWS final. Amazing
June 27th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
BHP….U GIVE EM NO REST EVER LOL
June 27th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
bauce explain 2 me why chris carter isnt playin but mark ellis is? wtf was the point in bringin carter up? that damn beane is worse than al davis cuz atleast davis has won before. cant believe the idiots on that 95.7 station whinin about what 2 do with ellis. weeks is the shiznit tho.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
93.priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:10 am
DMC aint no joke he has arrived…………..period
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i hope u will now give me my props and say that i was right about dmac . i knew he would tear it up if he was given the ball more and we ran a power scheme. dude is a much more physical runner than given credit for and he did make people miss in college. watched that dude every year at arkansas and said we would draft him in november of 07 when we stunk. all that skinny legs was stuff was bullsh!t. knew he was a baller and if we featured him in the offense more he’d have more td’s. thats who u build around, RUN DMC.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Bauce who you talking bout?
Armond, If you go back and look at my post before we drafted DMC it’s not like I didn’t like the kid I just didn’t want him over CJ when could’ve traded down and got a LT and CJ for the price of DMC. And I would still make that trade knowing what I know now. Chris Johnson and Sam Baker for DMC all day long. CJ isn’t as physical but he is awesome and Sam is a starting LT for Atl.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Once we drafted him we should’ve played him but the HC didn’t think so.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Watchin’ the Colts game again, man Ford’s speed is ridiculous I honestly think he may be the single fastest player ever in a Raider uni.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
priest just sayin i told u i would get ya when dmac came on. saw people call him a 3rd down back including u last offseason. some even said he was like reggie bush. well ill take dmac regardless of your idea of cj and baker. we need to unleash this guy and show the world what time it is.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
yeah ford is explosive. what i like about him the most is he doesnt let up. some fast guys slow down or showboat a bit but not him. he wants to embarrass people chasing him. he taunts u by flat out burning u. he couldve easily slowed down on that 71 yd reverse against denver. instead he wanted to show them how fast he is . love that attitude.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
468. If U all had NFLN you’d know they showed the Colts Raiders game recently.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Priesttj Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Once we drafted him we should’ve played him but the HC didn’t think so.
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Because Al Davis was paying Justin Fargas 5 million that year. The HC wasn’t that damned stupid.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
man im watchin this klay thompson and i must say that the dubs got a steal like with curry. there is no way u get rid of monta with another shooter like this on the perimeter. his speed is a huge asset with curry, wright and now klay. just get some damn bigs who can board and finish around the basket. we also have williams and thorton as scoring options off the bench. id rather get rid of lee way before monta.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
jeremy lin better watch out. charles jenkins may take his spot with ease. dude is active and can get his own shot. fearless with ball in his hands.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Jeremy Lin is afraid to shoot a basketball. Why is he even in the NBA?
With all due respect to Bauce, dumping Monta is not in the best interest of the W’s. Unless they can get a big man in return.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
bauce is hung up on his idea of b-ball and the fact he says monta is a some kinda f@gg. monta scores too much and is the fastest player in the nba. u dont get rid of one of the best penetrators in the game for crap. give me a legit allstar big man and we can talk.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Armond how are you wtching Klay Thompson? I just gotta see this kid play.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
yeah man!!! Monta’s game is sweet as honey mixed with sugar. The kids 1st step is lethal and he can finish as well as anybody. Watching him and Curry is a real treat. If Klay can bring some size and scoring punch Monta wont have to play so many minutes. It’s an added bonus if he can put it on the floor as well. That’s DWright next thing is to be able to creat for himself because at6′9″ he can be special..
June 27th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
priest just his “youtube film” so to speak. wright has to develop a post game and attack the rim more. yeah at 6′9 he needs to be more than 3 pt shooter. i believe he will. just get some help in the front court
to get this team better.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Armond,Ellis playing over Carter is a travesty.Actually Ellis playing over anyone on the roster is a travesty.At least Carter has some pop in his bat and can hit the ball out of the infield.It would be nice if they traded Ellis,but I doubt anyone wants a late 30something year old player who can’t hit.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Hopefully Melvin will see the light and put Ellis on the bench where he belongs,B.Beane be damned.I’m sick of the way Beane caters to his pets to the detriment of the team.Getting rid of Bobo was a start,now lets get rid of the non- producers on the field.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
If he doesn’t watch it K.Suzuki could be next.I’m getting tired of these double play waiting to happen guys.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Lefty12
That is what drives me crazy with the A’s is the almost automatic double plays that seem to persist. They gotta do whatever it takes to get some pop in this lineup it’s a travesty to have the pitching they do and almost no offense. You have a potential treasure as a lead off hitter and nothing to bring him home.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Just watched klay’s youtube’s the kid is legit, has a shot very similar to his fathers looks like he’s shooting it with both hands. His shot has great form he steps into it. He can shoot it from anywhere as soon as gets his man body this kid is going to be special. He’s got a great verticle he just doesn’t use it but yeah they definitely got one in Klay.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Ellis,Suzuki,Sizemore,DeJesus are all double play waiting to happen guys.They can’t seem to hit the ball in the air and they are all Beane guys.Even little Pennington can hit a fly ball.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Lefty12 It’s all going to change because they see the light of day there are no more excuses so Beanes feet are to the fire. He has to get it done now.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:12 am
I’m not up to date one the negotiations and I havn’t read the comments but it’s interesting to see that the union is advising rookies not to make big purchases.
Maybe that means they’re bringing in a Russell rule.
From what I have read the owners seem to have eliminated the billion they used to skim over the top before any division of money between plaers and owners and that the future division of NFL income between players and owners is not far off what the players union asked for.
In that’s the case GET ON WITH IT!
PLay football!!
June 28th, 2011 at 1:13 am
* the billion they used to skim “off” the top
June 28th, 2011 at 3:51 am
Sixers fan here. Do you guys know anything about former USC C-Nicola Vucevic?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:36 am
284.Deja vu Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Bcz24
They call him Checkdown Edward here in Bills country.
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I went to see the Raiders play in Buffalo back in the day. I was trying to get Howie Longs autograph during warm ups along with a bunch of other raider fans. The stadium isn’t even located in Buffalo is it? I thought it was called Orchard Park or something like that.
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Orchard Park is a suburb of Buffalo.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation! Any news? I just read up and I have seen that they are telling rookies not to make big purchases…hmmm…i like that ENGLAND…The Russell Rule!
Anyways, I guess I better start paying for my season tix then?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:01 am
Anyone who doesn’t think Gradkwoski won’t be on roster next year, knows nothing about football.
He will be on a team, as the #2, and probably will get at least one start next year.
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LOL!
JFB channeling his inner Priest TJ?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Glad you picked up on the subtle jab there Rockstar.
Nothing gets by you!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 6:13 am
When watching the Colts game yesterday, I noticed that DHB played a decent game.
I think he caught almost every pass thrown his way and there were no big drops.
But again, EVERYONE of his catches were with him at a near stop, with his back to the defense.
DHB is at his best as a possession WR (LOL at that one) and as a YAC guy.
Hue was smart enough to not put him in a position to have catch the ball while going 100 MPH, because he hasn’t proven he can do that yet.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Pretty sad, for a very storied franchise…
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=6710721
June 28th, 2011 at 6:52 am
I think Kell might off himself if DHB turned into the big time possession receiver we have all been clamoring for since the days of Brown and Rice…
June 28th, 2011 at 7:24 am
“I think Kell might off himself”
Now if we could just get KK to do it live via Pay Per View I bet we could sell a lot of tickets in here to that event!
June 28th, 2011 at 7:30 am
His last wish would be that ‘All proceeds go to the removal of Al Davis’
June 28th, 2011 at 7:32 am
The Russell Rule = “Don’t eat all the pies”.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:36 am
513.neilb Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:32 am
The Russell Rule = “Don’t eat all the pies”.
Nice!
June 28th, 2011 at 7:38 am
G’morning fellas.
‘Sup Hwnrdr,Bcz24…
Hey Vegas,
Couple points on that Colts game, I agree with ya about DHB. He had a better game than I’d remembered. Maybe a glimmer of hope.
I think he only ended with four for forty, but most importantly no drops. That one he made a nice athletic play. The guy took his legs out, but DHB kept his balance and almost spun out of it. Might’ve housed it.
As for my boy MM34, he had a bit of a rough game. But, on that critical 3rd and 8 late in the game, watch it again to see what happened.
My first reaction was disgust. It was damn Mitchell..you just got roasted in coverage…on a key play no less. Then I watched it again.
Branch came on a blitz and ran right into the back of MM34. When he tried to back out into coverage on Tamme, he had no chance.
It was like a pick play ran by the offense to free the receiver, only the Raiders did it to themselves.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
Thought I’d pop in and say hello to the am crew.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:42 am
How’s things across the Atlantic for you, Neil? I mean with Wimbledon going on…hopefully this lockout ends soon!
Good Morning Buckeye, Rockstar, 666, JFB, Bcz24…
June 28th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Hwnrdr…
Sick of waiting for an outbreak of common sense as far as the lockout goes.
I’ll be honest,I hate tennis!I’d only watch it if Maria Sharapova was playing in her undies!
June 28th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Whats up fellas. Finding myself playing a lot more madden lately, to combat lockout related withdrawls…
June 28th, 2011 at 7:53 am
This site is still messing with my posts so I’ll say have a great Tuesday while I still can.
Later Raider.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Good morning fellas.
I was watching DHB’s college highlights and most of his big plays were short passes, screens, and reverses. He had 1 catch that was nice but he pushed off the defender, should have been a PI. Anyway, i hope this kid proves everyone wrong this year and we need to use him to his strentghs. Wr screens reverses, then let him use his speed after the catch.
Also someone made a highlight reel of his drops. Showed Chris Carter and Tom Jackson ripping him apart at the beginning. He’s not going to live up to the 1st round status, he can thank Al for that!
June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Good morning Hwnrdr Neilb Buckeye
June 28th, 2011 at 7:58 am
I see Ocho Cinco needs to get back to work! The dude says he’s going to wrestle a wild animal for his next stunt. An alligator or something. This lock out has to end soon!
June 28th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Ocho is going to end up getting hurt doing these stunts and the next day they will anounce the end of the lockout.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:08 am
The most disapointing aspect of that Colts game to me, had to be the run defense. Or lack thereof.
The Raiders clearly missed Seymour in that game. Not only in pressuring Manning up the middle and commanding double teams, but in run defense as well.
Big John Henderson was not impressive. I think he can still be a very valuable member of the D-line rotation. But only in situational roles. Short yardage and goal line mostly. In limited snaps.
When he was forced to play too many snaps like he did against Indy, especially at his age..he’s going to wear down. It was obvious he was gassed vs the Colts. They ran right at him, especially late.
That had to be their worst display of run D, maybe second to the Texans debacle. I always say their stats get skewed because of the occasional long runs they give up, while otherwise playing pretty solid.
Not in those games. They flat out got gashed.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Also, what teed me off that game against the Colts was at the end…Really? Manning is going to run almost to a TD? Really?
June 28th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I was angry about the run/pass balance in the colts game too. I wish Time Warner had NFL Network. I would love to be able to rewatch these games
June 28th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Are they still doing that BS thing where they are making you pay for NFL Network?
June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am
So JFB,
You’re point is JC should be throwing the ball down the field more. You understand that his completion % will go down and he may have more turnovers. But you also feel that his TDs and yards will go up as there will certainly be balls that will actually be caught by the WRs.
I think you are going to see a lot more balls to the WRs this year. The extended BBQ he had at the house with the WRs a few months back should do wonders for that trust JC would need to pull the trigger, right?
June 28th, 2011 at 8:27 am
I was rewatching a few hits by pain Mclain. The hit on Sproles was classic, but the body slam on D. Amendola of the Rams was even better! It was def worth the personal foul call. lol
June 28th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Buckeye,
Henderson and the other DTs could only do s much. They were constantly doubled which is all you can ask of your DTs. McClain was the only LB on the field against Indy. Wimbley played base DE instead on Houston.
Doomed for those 6yd runs from the start. It’s like we were giving them that.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:44 am
“The extended BBQ he had at the house with the WRs a few months back should do wonders for that trust JC would need to pull the trigger, right?”
Yeah one week of workouts during a 5 month off season should help a little.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:54 am
I think you are going to see a lot more balls to the WRs this year. The extended BBQ he had at the house with the WRs a few months back should do wonders for that trust JC would need to pull the trigger, right?
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Yes I think it will.
You watch that last drive, we start with the ball around the 30 with 5:02 to go down 12.
He finished the drive very well, with the throw to Murphy and the nice strikes to Miller in the red zone.
But to start the drive, he was dinking and dunking so much, that right before the Murphy throw, it took over 2 minutes to get 17 yards. Not acceptable when you only have 5 minutes to score twice.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:57 am
From the middle of the 3rd quarter to the 5 minute mark in the 4th, I counted only two throws Soup threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.
I know, I know, take what the defense gives you, blah, blah, blah.
Sissy football, IMO.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:08 am
JHill,
Yeah, The Colts won both sides of the line of scrimmage. Shaughnessy was a non-factor, as was Houston..except for trying to gouge somebody’s eyes out. That boy does have a nasty streak.
I guess that’s the glass half full outlook on that Indy game. The Raiders didn’t really play that well. Never got their running game going. The other strength of the team…the D-line got outplayed by the Colts.
Even though they had to be deflated by learning they’d been eliminated from contention just before kickoff…they somehow were able to remain competetive throughout. One of the all-time great QB’s was able to make just enough plays to beat them. Somehow they were able to hang with one of the NFL elites, without playing their best.
BTW, I noticed you conveniently left out one play during your film review the other day. lol.
You’re always pounding the table for a blocking FB and decrying Reece’s blocking abilities.
On the Raiders best run of the day..about 20 yarder by MBush…Sgt Schultz Dan Dierdorf singles out Reece for his lead blocking. He says look at the nice lead block by Marcel Reese. He actually gets two. He takes out the linebacker at the point of attack, then peels off and picks off a second defender downfield. lol.
What says you, JHill?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:12 am
528.hwnrdr Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Are they still doing that BS thing where they are making you pay for NFL Network?
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I dont even have the option to pay for it… I would! It simply isnt offered.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I blame Hue Jackson for the offensive gameplan against Indy. Complete lack of creativity
42 passes by Campbell and only 13 runs by McFadden & Bush isn’t going to win many games for Oakland in 2011, either.
One of DMAC’s 11 runs went for 26 yards. One of Bush’s 3 runs went for 15. Why do you abandon the run game. We were only down by 8 heading into the 4th quarter. That’s a TD and an extra point
Indy came into the game with the 29th ranked rushing offense and the 25th ranked run defense.
Yet they stuffed the run and ran it down our throats?
It was like we were playing against the Steelers or Ravens, man. UGLY!
June 28th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Ouch, that sucks Bcz24!
June 28th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Good morning RAIDER NATION!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The Colts won both sides of the line of scrimmage
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Bingo, Buckeye!
the Colts are a finesse football team and they came out and punched us in the mouth. They wanted it more and they outmuscled us. Embarrassing
June 28th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Since all of you dudes are rewatching and reviewing the Colts game, how about explaining the excellent play of CJ37?
forced fumble (recovered by MM34) and INT. 2 turnovers against the Colts dynamic offense and none of the Colts WR’s finished with more than 40 yards receiving.
Nnamdi doesn’t shadow the other team’s best WR all game. He sticks to one side. Yet Reggie Wayne is held to 3 for 40 and no scores?
Garcon 3 for 35 and White 2 for 20
CJ37 = starter in 2011. Print That
haters beware
June 28th, 2011 at 9:34 am
I know everybody calls Reece a playmaker, but against the Colts he had a total of 8 yards with 5 touches.
thoughts?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:36 am
“I blame Hue Jackson for the offensive gameplan against Indy. Complete lack of creativity”
You mean you are not ready to crown him yet?
so many times I have said he has to prove himself as a HC just because he was a good OC does not mean he is a successful HC.
Cue Deblow and Mystic who claim Hue is a super bowl winning HC already.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I was rewatching a few hits by pain Mclain. The hit on Sproles was classic, but the body slam on D. Amendola of the Rams was even better!
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McClain needs to develop some leadership skills like yesterday. Seymour goes down the the 29th ranked rushing offense of the Colts runs for 191 yards on 39 attempts (4.89 ypc) and a TD?
big hits are great as long as they’re legal.
ROMAC was brought in to do 1 thing. improve the run defense. 31st to 29th isn’t good enough imo. Not for $40 million. Rookie season was a dissappointment, but hopefully he’ll get it together. Can’t blame his supporting cast
June 28th, 2011 at 9:45 am
2 turnovers against the Colts dynamic offense and none of the Colts WR’s finished with more than 40 yards receiving.
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No surprise really. The Colts ‘dynamic offense’ has been a turnover machine the last 2 years. 33 INTs out of the Great One. Peytons ability to mask the Colts deficencies is dwindling year by year.
How do you blame Hue Jackson everytime we have a subpar offensive performance saying his offense was to bland, and giving him FULL credit, but when our offense is ranked 7th overall and we have explosive games you say it was poor defenses or Tom Cable or any # of things.
And why is Hue Jackson any different than ANY other 1st year head coach? Seems to me ONLY Raiders fans hold their coaches guilty until proven innocent, but will crusify Al for being too hasty in his judgment.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:48 am
We should just cut Rolando. He wasnt Ray Lewis his first year. Get rid of him. He is a bust. Bring back Kirk Morrison. Our run defense will instantly improve… back to 31st where it was when he was here.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 am
You mean you are not ready to crown him yet?
so many times I have said he has to prove himself as a HC just because he was a good OC does not mean he is a successful HC.
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Silver,
I credit Al Davis for the offensive improvements. Hue Jackson didn’t make any personnel moves as an OC.
The offense got better because he replaced Russell with Campbell. Cut Luke Lawton to give Reece a shot. Cut ties with Fargas, Walker, Green. drafted Veldheer & Ford.
the only thing you can really evaluate Hue Jackson on is his play calling in 2010 and it was questionable at best. On par with what he accomplished in Washington & Atlanta. I don’t want to hear about points scored. You score more points by having better players on the field and Al Davis dictates the roster
Hue Jax took credit for benching Jason Campbell (which happened 3 times) and could have been the difference between making & missing the playoffs. Go back and review the 49ers game. You can’t put that all on Jason Campbell. Hue Jackson got outcoached by Jimmy Raye’s interim replacement OC Mike Johnson
June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am
RRS,
I like CJ37. I like his physicality. I love it when they throw into the flats on his side. He comes up and unloads. He throws his body around in run support. For the most part he plays pretty tight man to man.
He will gamble and jump a route. See Denver game. My only concern is his age and health. He always seems to be battling some nagging injury.
He was solid vs Colts, although he did have one very costly miscue. On a critical 3rd and 17, he bails out Colts with costly PI. It was a good call, too. He grabbed the dudes arm.
I thought Routt’s PI was more ticky tack. Of course, Indy doesn’t get the call. Raiders driving…already in scoring position. 3rd and 5, JC takes a shot for a big play…JFB. lol. Ford has his man beat, and the Indy CB gives him a two handed shot to the chest…about 15 yards down field….THEN he turns and plays the ball. Blatant illegal contact. Raiders shoulda had a first down. Instead another Janno FG. They just don’t get the calls.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am
FIRE HUE JACKSON
June 28th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Bring back Kirk Morrison. Our run defense will instantly improve… back to 31st where it was when he was here.
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did KM have Seymour at DT or guys like Warren & Sands?
did KM have ShoNasty & Houston at DE or guys like Ellis, Richardson, Scott & Burgess?
did KM have Groves & Wimbley at OLB or guys like Howard, Brown & Alston?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Rolando was in his rookie year, and he’s only going to get better. I didn’t expect him to come in and have a Ray Lewis or Urlacher type impact right away. I can agree with you that himself and the entire team need to work on stopping the run, whether it be shedding blockers, Tackling, or forcing turnovers. I think he’ll earn that $, just give him time.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:58 am
My only concern is his age and health. He always seems to be battling some nagging injury.
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Buckeye,
CJ37 has missed 9 games in the last 4 years.
Chaz Schilens has missed 19 games in the last 2 years!
June 28th, 2011 at 9:59 am
“FIRE HUE JACKSON”
Don’t worry Al will do that once his overhead projector is out of the repair shop and we finish 9-7.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Was Rolando a Rookie or a 6th year veteran?
Did Rolando play a 3-4 in college or a 4-3?
Lets compare stats shall we?
Romac- 15 games started 85 tackles (59 solo) 0 Forced Fumbles 1 INT 6 pass defenses 6 TFL
Captain Kirk- 16 games started 89 tackles (64 solo) 0 forced fumbles 0 ints 1 pass defensed 4 TFL
I would argue as a ROOKIE Romac had more impact the Captain Kirk did in his 6th year as a pro. Say what you will about money, but Rolando wasnt getting out of the first round and we were getting rid of Captain Overpursuit whether you liked it or not
June 28th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Well, If it wasn’t Hue, then somebody did one hell of a job last year with nothing more than smoke and mirrors. The Raiders were a top 10 scoring offense, and 2nd ranked rushing attack in the league at over 150 ypg.
This was accomplished with, at least according to RAIDER FANS (?):
The worst O-line in the league. The only one they like is the rookie LT. Even though he led the team in penalties and sacks allowed. The center is an undersized zone blocking weakling, who gets rag dolled. The RG is worse…and older. The LG is a 1st rd bust. Good riddance. The RT is stop gap at best and should be replaced by a rookie.
The FB can’t block. Neither can the TE.
They get no help, nor pressure taken off from the passing game either. Because the WR’s all suck and can’t catch a cold. DHB=BUST. Chazzarella can’t stay healthy. Murphy too inconsistant and pops viagra at 23. Doesn’t help with his alligator arms, though.
The QB? He pizzes down his leg and gets a deer in the headlights look at the first sign of adversity.
Oh yeah, That stud RB who does it all by himself…somehow, miraculously. Until last year he was a bust, too. A skinny legged McPuzzy boy who fell down over the first blade of grass or yard marker he could trip over. Couldn’t adjust to the pro game and it’s narrow hash marks. Might be able to be salvaged as a 3rd down back….IF, he could just stay healthy.
Other than that…..everything is Hunky Dory. Except for the meddling owner and his outdated schemes. LOL.
Have a good day fellas.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 am
No that was all AL buckeye. Hue had no part in of that scoring.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Finally my green & gold are home….Chris carter anyone? carter and Godzilla in the line up at least give the idea of some kind of power in the line up, and may even may opposing teams have to actually change the way they pitch. Put these two back to back and force the pitcher to pitch around. Novel idea
June 28th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Buckeye,
Wasn’t that play called back because of a hold?
Bush doesn’t miss every block. But he is TERRIBLE as a lead blocker. One play doesn’t make up for the 10 bad block attempts, lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:41 am
I have to agree that Hu jack had at least a couple of strange calls. i think the wild cat was a terrible idea, lost us the football and momentum. The indy game was too heavily focused on attacking the perimeter. Even the passing game was horizontal. Im just not sure why you throw wide against cover two, instead of attacking the seams and soft spots in the zones.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:50 am
I dont think DHB will ever be a guy that runs deep and catches on the run over the shoulder. He could one day become a jump ball type, he made a couple of nice jump ball catches last year. His main strength does seem to be catching the ball after sitting in a zone. he may be best suited to be a guy that sits in dead spots then turns up field. Im ok with that. For one we have guys that catch on the run deep, ford murphy chaz. With DHb’s size and speed if he can continue what he started and year by improving his hands and routs he would be a great compliment to our core. there have been plenty of guys that made nice careers for themselves being guys that catch with their back to to the defense.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Mistic1 #548 great post if Ford isn’t illegally chucked that is a TD the ball was very well thrown the DB had to int or else it’s 6 the refs stares at the infraction and yawns. We end up kicking a FG. It sucked!! Same instance Routt committs less of a foul and immediately the flag is thrown. It gets tiring but it has an affect on the outcome of games.
I think DHB just needs to make a few plays to get his confidence up. The kid can play he just needs to relax and play……………period
June 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Sorry that was Buckeye! @548!
June 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am
518.neilb Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Hwnrdr…
Sick of waiting for an outbreak of common sense as far as the lockout goes.
I’ll be honest,I hate tennis!I’d only watch it if Maria Sharapova was playing in her undies!
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LOL!
That’s also the only way I’d like tennis.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Although, maybe Megan Fox.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:13 am
J Hill Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Buckeye,
Wasn’t that play called back because of a hold?
Bush doesn’t miss every block. But he is TERRIBLE as a lead blocker. One play doesn’t make up for the 10 bad block attempts, lol.
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Haven’t seen Bush used as a lead blocker much??????
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
549.bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am
FIRE HUE JACKSON
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Are you Al Davis?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
tj,
Comments like these are what continue to make you the butt of alot of jokes in here, having said that….keep posting this idiotic krap!
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Priesttj Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
I think DHB just needs to make a few plays to get his confidence up. The kid can play he just needs to relax and play……………period
June 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am
You should stick your head in a meat grinder.
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Bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:48 am
We should just cut Rolando.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:17 am
566.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
549.bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am
FIRE HUE JACKSON
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Are you Al Davis?
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FIRE AL DAVIS TOO. Jackson McClain Condo and Davis are the 4 men ultimately responsible for all our woes.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Time for Voglesong.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Al Davis is ultimately responsible for all the Raiders woes.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am
568.MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am
You should stick your head in a meat grinder.
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Bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 9:48 am
We should just cut Rolando.
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Good think you read enough posts to know that I was defending Rolando, and THAT post was sarcasm…
June 28th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Bcz,
Im not going to read 500 posts just to get your sarcasm but good to know you were playing.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Just as pres purp lips is responsible for all his?
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Al Davis is ultimately responsible for all the Raiders woes.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:23 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Just as pres purp lips is responsible for all his?
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Just as you are responsible for all yours.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am
KK the clown, you are very forgiving when it comes to our derelict pres and all his failed policies, but not so much when it comes to Al Davis.
Nothing other than skin color is the reason, no ?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Is this your chicken shat way of saying yes?
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:23 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Just as pres purp lips is responsible for all his?
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Just as you are responsible for all yours.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Here we go again the two mentally disabled bloggers are going to have a retard fight!
My money is on KK he has mean uppercut combined with a soiled adult diaper could be a knockout 3rd round.
I am taking bets now KK 3-1 Brownstains 5-1
June 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Al Davis drove the Raider Franchise into the Ground.
The President is bringing the country out of the ditch.
Big difference, BrownStains.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Here we go again the two mentally disabled bloggers are going to have a retard fight!
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And here’s little troll boy wanting in.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:32 am
KK the Clown, give me 1 example where the country is better off since moron in chief took office.
-unemplyment up
-housing market down
-debt has tripled
-foreclosers up
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Al Davis drove the Raider Franchise into the Ground.
The President is bringing the country out of the ditch.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games in the last 23 years. That’s the only problem I have with him. Lmao.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:35 am
BrownStains, here’s an easy to understand chart for you:
http://unastronaut.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/120m4471.jpg
June 28th, 2011 at 11:36 am
KK the clown, lets just cut to the chase.
purp lips has been a failure like we haven’t seen since jimmy carter. So the question is why do you look the other way and give purp lips a pass and Al Davis is on your mind 18hrs a day 365 days a year ????
In your racist bigot eyes failure is failure, no?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:37 am
KK the clown, you cant me give 1 example where purp lips has made a positive difference. Thank you for playing along.
The end
June 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am
I’m a big Raider Fan, that’s why Al Davis is on my mind, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:36 am
So the question is why do you look the other way and give purp lips a pass and Al Davis is on your mind 18hrs a day 365 days a year ????
In your racist bigot eyes failure is failure, no?
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Exactly why do you come on the Raiders blog to whine about the President 18hrs a day 365 days a year???
June 28th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Not a fan of your country though? Thats why you watch purp lips flush it down the toilet and you are proud as punch.
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am
I’m a big Raider Fan, that’s why Al Davis is on my mind, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:42 am
573.MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Bcz,
Im not going to read 500 posts just to get your sarcasm but good to know you were playing.
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How about you just read the entire post you commented on… I think you could have pulled the sarcasm out of that….
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am
How about you go ahead and stick your head in that meat grinder like I said before? Now I doubt you were being sarcastic.
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Bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:42 am
How about you just read the entire post you commented on… I think you could have pulled the sarcasm out of that….
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games in the last 23 years. That’s the only problem I have with him, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:46 am
So why dont you spend 3/4 of your life b!tching about it on a blog, you fkn moron!
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games in the last 23 years. That’s the only problem I have with him, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Just one more thing before I gotta go to work..
JHill,
I know that was a typo…you didn’t mean Bush.
The thing with Reece is, if the running game was struggling I might worry about bringing in a better blocker at FB.
Since they are 2nd in the league in rushing, he must me doing something OK. I guess you could call him “serviceable”. Is that fair enough?
While he may never be a true sledgehammer, I think he can get better. He just transitioned to FB. He can learn to use better technique and leverage. That can be coached I believe.
Right now, I think his versatility and the mismatches he creates with his speed and receving ability as an outlet receiver, and even big play threat…far outweighs whatever liability he has as a lead blocker, IMO.
This guy is a weapon who Hue utilizes creatively for some big big plays.
Gotta run. Have a good day fellas.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Players have come and gone.
Coaches have come and gone.
Fans have gone.
Yet the General Manager who has lost 57% of his games over the last 23 years, hasn’t gone.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Bcz24
” I think you could have pulled the sarcasm out of that….”
The guy couldn’t pull sarcasm out of a Richard Pryor concert. He has a midget brain and a narrow mind. He fills his time arguing with an Alzheimer patient armed with no facts to back it up. Its pathetic to watch the little guy kind of like watching a train wreck.
That’s why I am taking bets on the online retard chat fight they are having right now…..Place your bets!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Bcz, will you please converse with 666Glen she is begging for some attention.
lol
June 28th, 2011 at 11:56 am
brownstainsKK
You need to pay attention to your chat fight you are losing right now.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Bcz, will you please converse with 666Glen she is begging for some attention.
lol
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So are you. You must be lonely as hell. Locked up in yer trailer all day with no work.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am
lo @ having a chat fight
666Glen & KK the clown, have you visited all 57 states like purp lips did?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Brownstains, your problems far precede the current Prez.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
KK, did you ever notice your wifes haircut and Jim Careys in Dumb & Dumber are exactly the same? I bet that movie jump starts your anniversary with your beauty queen. Nothing like a bowl cut to get the blood pumpin, no ?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Yes KK he is locked up in his trailer with only pork and beans to eat until the government cheese line opens today.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
666Brownstains, doesn’t seem like you’re in much better shape.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
666Glen, you cuddle up next to KK and then he pops you in the grill. You being the idiot that you are will repeat the same thing again tomorrow, lmao
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
666Brownstains, doesn’t seem like you’re in much better shape.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Brownstains, I hope there’s no cats around your trailer with a bowl cut. For the cats’s sake.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Mr Brownstains the out of work republican that collects food stamps but complains about social services.
Armed with a midget brain and a can of pork and beans he feels he can take on the online chat world with his dull wit and retarded sense of reasoning.
He thinks because he read Sarah P@lins book he is now an educated man with unique debating skills.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
KKbrownstains
I am sure your trailer is in the same trailer park as his so don’t get all puffed up about you winning the chat fight.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I wouldn’t wish a bowl cut on a cat either KK. It looks great on your wife though! How long has he had it ?
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Brownstains, I hope there’s no cats around your trailer with a bowl cut. For the cats’s sake.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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Another republican.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
June 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I like this one:
Players have come and gone.
Coaches have come and gone.
Fans have gone.
Yet the General Manager who has lost 57% of his games over the last 23 years, hasn’t gone.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Oh no KK has run off on a tangent he is confused and is sparing with a blogger who is not even here right now.
This could cost him points in his chat fight with Brownstains/KK
Stay tuned bloggers as this is what we are left with as entertainment because of the lockout!
June 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
KK the clown, while you are reposting blog posts your wife is at work making your ends meet? He is a fool for not tossing you out on your lard a$$, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Oh no KK has run off on a tangent he is confused and is sparing with a blogger who is not even here right now.
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Two of a kind. maybe even the same.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
KK the clown, while you are reposting blog posts your wife is at work making your ends meet? He is a fool for not tossing you out on your lard a$$, ok?
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Wow, you trolls are soooooo concerned about my life, thanks.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
BrownStains666
We’re very happy, thanks.
You?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Brownstains666
We just bought a property in Switzerland, you?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Brownstains666
Do you own that trailer, or rent it?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Buckeye-555-Great job.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Brien, I doubt the feds will ever get around to collecting the $1.27 that you owe.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Venice.
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Brownstains666
We just bought a property in Switzerland, you?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
666, every Republican I know has sucked on the guv titt at some point.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
TSA defends removing adult’s diaper for pat down
Alex Sundby
CBS
June 27, 2011
The Transportation Security Administration defended on Sunday the actions of its airport security officers at a northwest Florida airport after the agency came under criticism for requiring a 95-year-old woman to remove her adult diaper during a pat down.
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666, family member?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
The only problem Republicans have with welfare is that blacks collect from it, too. They don’t believe in sharing their plate with blacks. They liken it to sharing their plate with a dog. Whites in the south were once Democrats, called themselves “dixiecrats”, and they were all for welfare until blacks started drawing too. Then they became Republicans, anti-welfare, etc. Realness.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
@666
TSA defends removing adult’s diaper for pat down
Alex Sundby
CBS
June 27, 2011
The Transportation Security Administration defended on Sunday the actions of its airport security officers at a northwest Florida airport after the agency came under criticism for requiring a 95-year-old woman to remove her adult diaper during a pat down.
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666, family member?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Regarding TSA violating the old woman: Fear the Blue Line. Police state is here. This is just the beginning.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Great example of a Govt agency completely and utterly derelict while costing us tax payers millions. Thats why 0bumba care will be overturned, thanks for playing purp lips!
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
TSA defends removing adult’s diaper for pat down
June 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
everything is Hunky Dory. Except for the meddling owner and his outdated schemes
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Buckeye,
Al Davis got you 8 wins last year and swept the AFC West. Show a little respect
June 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
KK the clown, you dont have to fear paying taxes but your wife, well he better hang on to his wallet!
Feel me?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
MB, you are as dumb as you sound!
“The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001. Originally part of the United States Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the Department of Homeland Security on March 25, 2003.”
June 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
MR
“every Republican I know has sucked on the guv titt at some point.”
So funny isn’t it and yet they are against every social service program out there.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
there seems to be a lot of purse swinging in here today.
Does this all stem from my comments regarding Hue Jax?
If that’s the case, let’s just say “I hope i’m wrong about him”
June 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
BrownStains, your trailer smells.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Tom Cable got us 8 wins last year. The players finally bought into his intensity. That’s why some of them ripped Al in public when he was fired.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I don’t live in a trailer maybe you are smelling your wifes boxer shorts, yes?
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
BrownStains, your trailer smells.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Digging through the feces stained adult diaper of some 95 year old woman is the extent of what government employees are capable of.
Now if it was KK’s stained diapers they would have got hazard pay!
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
666, Republicans aren’t against government programs. They’re against sharing their plate with blacks. And they’ll pretend to be anti welfare, anti-govt, etc, as long as one black person is drawing from the same well. Of course, they’ll continue to draw themselves in the meantime. They’ll just speak out against the system. We have some of then here. Just read their comments.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
BrownStains
When’s the last time you’ve had anything to eat other than pork n beans?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
MB…the 95 year old woman being busted down by TSA agents: BUSH’S AMERICA. Make no mistake.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
666, Republicans aren’t against government programs. They’re against sharing their plate with blacks.
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Crude, but correct. They won’t make community with anybody but themselves.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Yep, and there you are supporting purp lips for more & more govt. Your like a 2 yr old that keeps sticking his finger in the light socket.
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Silverandblack666 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Digging through the feces stained adult diaper of some 95 year old woman is the extent of what government employees are capable of.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
MB seems like the kind of guy who cashes his disability check then eats at Black Angus. Probably tells people there that he runs a business.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
BCZ,
just because I think McClain could have done more as a rookie, doesn’t mean that I think he’s a bust or should be cut…
Do I think that Kirk Morrison would have outperformed him last year, given the same supporting cast? Yes.
Do I think that MLB was the least of our issues making a Top 10 MLB essentially a wasted pick? Yes.
But I thought Darren McFadden was a wasted pick too, since we had Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes, Bush & Echemandu on the roster at that time. Now he’s one of my favorite players. Probably because he’s Top 5 at his position (when healthy) and has outshined all those other guys. That isn’t the case with McClain (yet).
Let me know when he has a DMAC-like effect on the Defense (#2 Rushing vs. #29 Run Defense)
June 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Are either of you bigots supporting Herman Cain for pres?
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
666, Republicans aren’t against government programs. They’re against sharing their plate with blacks.
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Crude, but correct. They won’t make community with anybody but themselves.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Gotta run. Showing property, believe it or not. Lol.
BrownStains, @bama is not responsible for your pathetic lot in life, ok? Peace.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
We don’t believe it, nice try!
lmao
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Gotta run. Showing property, believe it or not. Lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Are either of you bigots supporting Herman Cain for pres?
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It’s what they stand for, not the color of their skin, moron.
Bye.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
MB, that stupid analogy doesn’t work. We have a black president. We can vote for his re-election, and according to your analogy that would absolve us of racism, considering your charge is that we’re racists for not supporting Herman Cain. Senior moment?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Apparently this is insult hour.
Later gents!
June 28th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am
How about you go ahead and stick your head in that meat grinder like I said before? Now I doubt you were being sarcastic.
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Here ya go genius, here is the follow up SUPPORT of Rolando… I could definitely see how your simple mind would infer that I want to cut RoMac. Do me a favor. Repeatedly smash your testicles with a meat tenderizer to ensure the rest of our species there is no chance you procreate.
554.bcz24 Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Was Rolando a Rookie or a 6th year veteran?
Did Rolando play a 3-4 in college or a 4-3?
Lets compare stats shall we?
Romac- 15 games started 85 tackles (59 solo) 0 Forced Fumbles 1 INT 6 pass defenses 6 TFL
Captain Kirk- 16 games started 89 tackles (64 solo) 0 forced fumbles 0 ints 1 pass defensed 4 TFL
I would argue as a ROOKIE Romac had more impact the Captain Kirk did in his 6th year as a pro. Say what you will about money, but Rolando wasnt getting out of the first round and we were getting rid of Captain Overpursuit whether you liked it or not
June 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
MB, you would never vote for Herman Cain. Most Republicans wouldn’t. You guys would talk a big game about how your party is more diverse, but when it came down to it, there’s no way you’d give a black person the nomination. you guys would have your own bradley effect on election day. Because you know your politics is ALL ABOUT race.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am
I’m a big Raider Fan, that’s why Al Davis is on my mind, ok?
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No you aren’t.
Fans support their team. you never do. In any way.
You blame Al for you not buying tickets when the fact is, by your own admission, your wife works while you sit on a blog all day.
Besides, didn’t you say you hated the Raiders?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Speaking of work, when ws the lst time u worked, MR?
The Carter admin?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I have no idea why any one thinks captain kirk is an mlb. he was very promising on the outside, and a total flop at mlb. Romac is and was an upgrade over kirk. In fact kikr was so bad in jax last year they may not bring him back. i say we should resign kirk on the cheap and let him compete for olb and back up the mlb spot
June 28th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
does anyone know if carter is starting dh today?
June 28th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I have no idea why any one thinks captain kirk is an mlb. he was very promising on the outside, and a total flop at mlb. Romac is and was an upgrade over kirk. In fact kirk was so bad in jax last year they may not bring him back. i say we should resign kirk on the cheap and let him compete for olb and back up the mlb spot
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Agree – Much rather have him than Ricky Brown.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
“they(Republicans) are against sharing their plate with blacks”.Actually they are against sharing with anyone but the wealthy elite,not just blacks.Social Security,Medicare-huge sums of money that they can’t get their hands on and it drives them crazy.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Mistic-the A’s can’t play Carter,they have to find a spot for the double play machine also known as Mark Ellis.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I dont think Morrison will come back to us, maybe if we retain Thomas Howard.
Hey Rock, just so you know, if we KEPT Morrison last year, we wouldnt have Ford. I would take Romac and Ford over Morrison 100 times out of 100
June 28th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Archive Tony, I work now. I’m off today. I’ll tell you where I work if you tell me where you work.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Tony, I was 5 years old when Carter was president.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Tony, Kell supports Jason Campbell. Was in here defending him all day yesterday. I’d say someone who defends the starting QB is probably defending the team.
Tony, what is your deal with psycho analyzing everyone? What’s it to you?
June 28th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
I would take Romac and Ford over Morrison 100 times out of 100
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Damn straight!
I don’t think it hurts to bring in Mike Sims-Walker to duke it out with Chaz. Shouldn’t cost much, at least he won’t be a wasted roster spot.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
lefty,
I have enjoyed the melvin show, but if carter isnt in the game today i will be more pissed off than puzzled. Ellis has been a good pro, but at this stage of the game i wouldnt sacrifice playing time for our future just to have ellis in the game, and out of position.
By the way, now that baseball is more like it was when i was a kid, i would be thrilled to have carter playing dh (if he cant handle first base), batting .250 to .290 and smacking 25-35 home runs. Even if he leads the majors in strike outs.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
665
June 28th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
666
June 28th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Hahahahaha MR asking why someone they are pscyho analyzing others…..thats hilarious
June 28th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I just don’t see what the point of it is, Brien. He’s been coming here for a couple of years now. Used to post as “richochet”. Has a couple of other names too. He always says that I’m unemployed, “by my own admission”. WTF did I ever say that? He wants me to tell him where I work, yet he won’t tell me what business he supposedly owns, because, “nobody gives away their information over the internet”. But, he wants me to give him mine. He’s just a real hypocrite and a real a hole.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Mistic,Ellis has been a nice player for a long time,but it is time to move on.Carter should be the 1st baseman with Jackson his fill-in.I’m tired of watching Ellis,Suzuki,and DeJesus come up and hit into easy double plays.You can throw the new guy,Sizemore, in there also.We need more pop from our offense and we won’t get it from guys like Ellis.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Wow here MR goes again with Republicans are so against blacks lol…..yeah and as I said you always painting dems as such the good guys when they are not. And I never said I was a republican. U soft ass democrap lovers always think someone is a republican if they dont agree with you blue dummies
June 28th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
MR you do the same shhhht and have for years now you on Tony for doing the same? Come on
June 28th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
BARRY O….is half black so spare us the black president routine. He grew up where and with who? Did he grow up like many of us did in the US? Hell Barry doesnt even have shhht in common with blacks who live in the burbs dammit. In his own book he admitted he has nada in common with black males in the US
June 28th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Nope, Brien. Never painted the Dems as the “good guys”. Just said they have a much better track record on race relations than Republicans since the Civil Rights act. That’s just a fact. Not painting anything
June 28th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Oh and Barry O is so for black people huh? He spoke out about Sean Bell? Oscar Grant? Dude that got hung in Mississippi? He speaks on behalf of homosexuals,illegal aliens and even for AIPAC and his promises for them lol…..what the fk has he specifically said he would do for black people here in the US?
June 28th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Brien, stop painting Tony as the good guy…
June 28th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
How are they on a better track record? I’d love to hear this BS lol
June 28th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Tony aka Pedochet or whatever he is is funny
June 28th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Well, Brien, for starters, Democrats introduced the Civil Rights Act, which gave black people the same rights as white people.
Democrats also introduced affirmative action, to address companies intentionally hiring whites, a problem that still exists today.
Democrats also introduced the Great Society, designed to address lack of funding toward schools in poor areas, attended by mostly black youth, and to create jobs in heavily impoverished black areas.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Your liberal hero Clinton loved and honored a proud segregationist since he was his intern in the 60s lol….yeah dems so cool lol
June 28th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Richochet can be funny, I agree. But he has a real stick up his ass. He’s got a mean streak that indicative of someone who’s mother never hugged him. I don’t understand it. His obsession with psycho analyzing people is just disturbing. He’s called people out to fight, too. Several times. He claims to own a business? Jesus H. Christ. I’m pretty sure he only employs family members. Who else would work for him?
June 28th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Civil Rights act? hahahahahahahaha you mean signed by LBJ whose entire time in DC blks were gettin fked up left and and right? You mean same LBJ who had Hoover and the cointelpro to kill black movements and stop BLACK MESSIAH?….dont make laugh
June 28th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
LMAO.
Everyone who asks you why you don’t work and live here, you call Richo.
EVeryone, MR.
The reality is I came on while back, posting to someone else. you, in your chldish way, tossed out your silly insults, along with Kell.
Picking on you two is good sideline entertainment in the offseason.
What? You think everyone is aware you live here, all day, all night? Every day of the year, it seems?
Weren’t you just calling someone else Richo lst week?
Sounds like someone is running scared. Oh, my bad.
Sitting on his fatass scared, I meant.
But sure, I’ll play along.
Work for Intuit.
Your turn.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Here’s a tid bit on Clinton’s segregationist “hero” that Rush Limbaugh probably didn’t tell you:
“However, during the Nixon administration Fulbright voted for a civil rights bill and led the charge against confirming Nixon’s conservative Supreme Court nominees Clement Haynsworth and Harold Carswell. [7]“
June 28th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Affirmative action? 80 pct goes to white women…so i killed you there
June 28th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Tony, you’re not Richochet?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Brien, stop painting Tony as the good guy…
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But I am the good guy.
Bauce and I have had exchanges away from here for awhile. No biggee. (still waiting for his hot cousin)
You are just a pathetic removed from society loser MR.
Nothing more.
And you’re a liar.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Great Society? lol and we see how thats working out….more blacks and hispanics saying fk education system….its outdated and the kids dont learn schit….nice try
June 28th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Who in the hell is Richochet?
How can I take tht crap seriously when it seems you say everyone is him?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Lol so Fullbright wasnt a segregationist?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Again, MR, I work for Intuit.
And you work at?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
What does LBJ have to do with the DC police department, Brien?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I work for FedEx, Tony.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Tony, I think you’re a pathetic, removed from society loser. I’ll bet anything that’s exactly what you are.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Were you talking about Fulbright, Brien? You said Clinton’s segregationist “hero”.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Brien, do you have a source for the 80% of affirmative action going to white women? I can’t find anything on the internet that says that. Did you make that up?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Tony, who have I ever accused of being richochet, other than you? Are you honestly telling me you’re not him?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Awesome MR.
You’ve proved you are an excellent parrot.
good on ya, little man.
When you were typing it, did it sound familiar? lol. you moron.
ArchiveTony Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
You are just a pathetic removed from society loser MR.
Nothing more.
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Tony, I think you’re a pathetic, removed from society loser.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Tony, who have I ever accused of being richochet, other than you? Are you honestly telling me you’re not him?
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See? You are delusional. You can’t even remember.
You went on and on and on couple weeks ago that hobs something, and someone else, as I recall, were Richo.
You don’t remember that?
You’re losing it.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Any USC Basketball fans have an opinion on Nicola Vucevic?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Yes, Tony, I borrowed your own words. Obnoxious dikc heads like you typically are the very things that you call other people.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Tony, I have only accused you of being Richochet, because of course you are him. Nobody else. Find one comment where I accuse anyone other than you of being Richochet. Should be easy to do. after all, your name is “archive Tony”.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Hahahahahaha
June 28th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
What does LBJ have to do with DC police? Hahahaha u cant serious
June 28th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
You know what? You’re right. Hobs is one of your other names. Basically, Richochet, the only people I accuse of being you, are YOU.
I’ve never accused MB of being you.
Never accused Brien of being you.
Never accused RRS of being you.
JHill, Armond, Dakota, never once accused them of being you.
Just the 3 names I know you’ve used, like:
Richochet
Hobs Gnarly
And, of course, Archive Tony. Your newest troll handle.
If I had accused “everyone” of being you, as you put it, I would have done so.
There’d be comments where I accused Dakota, RRS, Brien, MB, Armond, Kell, anybody…of being you. But there aren’t.
Just the 3 handles you’ve trolled under.
Check the Archives….Tony.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
MR you didnt know white women get 80 pct of affirmative action? This is widely known dummy
June 28th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Brien, what does a president have to do with the police? President is in office 8 years tops. A police cheif can be around for decades, same with rest of upper brass.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Brien, I’m just asking for a source!
I’ve scoured the internet trying to find your stat about women and affirmative action.
THERE’S NADA!
Nothing.
Shouldn’t there be at least one link on the internet that backs up your claim?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
MR….Full-not so-Bright is on record with it so just shut up ok
June 28th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
MR did u read what I said about links? I just dont like doing it…..not challenging enough for me….this is an avenue of fun when i dice you idiots…dont kill it for me
June 28th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Again, Brien. This is what Limbaugh didn’t tell you about Clinton’s segregationist “hero”:
“However, during the Nixon administration Fulbright voted for a civil rights bill and led the charge against confirming Nixon’s conservative Supreme Court nominees Clement Haynsworth and Harold Carswell. [7]“
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._William_Fulbright
June 28th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Brien, I can see you don’t like doing links. It’s because you’d rather make stuff up, and hope that people don’t fact check you. No luck this time. You got burned. Nice try.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Archive Tony, why is this your 3rd handle?
You always accuse others of “cross posting”. Why do you do it, too?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
In case you hadn’t read this:
By Bill WilliamsonOn one hand, Oakland Raiders’ owner Al Davis deserves credit for being proactive prior to the lockout and signing several players to extensions.
However, there were built-in risks. Davis committed a load of money to 2011 without knowing the salary-cap rules.
That’s why ESPN’s John Clayton ranked the Raiders as one of the teams in the worst position heading into free agency. Clayton ranked the Raiders third on his list as being in a bad spot prior to the start of free agency as far as the salary cap goes.
Here is Clayton’s reasoning: Davis was aggressive in re-signing eight players for contracts totaling $85.48 million. But if the cap is at $120 million, the Raiders may have issues. If new cap rules exclude some $26 million in “dead” money for players whose contracts were voided to make them free agents this year that would help. If accounting rules include the “dead” money, the Raiders would be $14.78 million over the cap and would have to cut some players. Their payroll of $103.2 million isn’t out of line, but the “dead” money issue could cause them problems if it isn’t cleared up.
Again, the Raiders were in a tough spot. They had a ton of free agents and they secured the likes of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and John Henderson, among others. But it may be difficult to keep free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Michael Huff and Michael Bush as a result. It could also be difficult for Oakland to add outside free agents.
The Raiders knew they were taking a risk extending the players they did prior to the lockout. But teams can’t keep everyone and the Raiders made their decisions on their priority free agents. So, as a result, the Raiders’ offseason movement period may be complete for the most part because of the possible salary-cap realities.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Its funny and sad MR you dont know white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action
June 28th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
MR let em fact check me and they will see im right….I got burned? Lol too funny never have and never will
June 28th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The Raider paid all that money, while the only player in a contract year worth keeping is Nnamdi. And, they’re not going to pay him.
Al fires the head coach that leads us to our first non losing season in 8 years.
Al dumps off Gradkowski, a key backup.
We’ve gotten worse in so many ways since last season ended. We haven’t capitalized at all.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Back pedaling!!!!
You f’n punk!
First it was 80%
Now it’s just “the majority”
you stupid f’n punk.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Affirmative action has done nada for black people as a whole. 3 or 4 get jobs and 3-4 million others dont get shhhht lol. Yeah such progress. Once a job fills its quotas they dont have to hire another minority if they dont want to…..pure BS
June 28th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
when did I backtrack? 80 pct is not majority MR? lol
June 28th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Make no mistake, the 2011 Raiders will take the field a worse team than the 2010 Raiders. Right down the line. You don’t let that happen. When you go from 5-11 to 8-8, you make sure you’re better the following year. You don’t fire your coach. You don’t dump off one of the best backup QBs in the game, who you may need to start considering Campbell’s likeliness to just melt down. You don’t let the best CB in the game walk. You don’t let that happen! You just don’t! WTF is wrong with Al Davis?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
All one has to do is look at the rise in white women having employment from the 60s on….and look at how many are VPs and execs…..its not rocket science. Affirmative action was to stop so many WHITE MEN from having all the jobs not WHiTE PEOPLE
June 28th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Brien, we’re done taking about affirmative action. You’re a loud mouth punk with absolutely no credibility.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Cable deserved to get fired….his entire body of work wasnt good enough. Then bringing his prostitute whores on a big road trip in Jax? Saying we arent losers anymore at 8-8? Good job Al
June 28th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Brien take your 80% and shove it up your lying a$$. Now it’s just “the majority”. lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Cable the vaunted master guru of oline play regressed year after year and caant pass block to save their lives. Thats his area of expertise and that unit stunk!
June 28th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
80 pct is surely majority MR….i dont know how you are missing that
June 28th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Please….and I notice you totally didnt want none on the Barry O issue lol
June 28th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Brien, there’s no better barometer of a head coach than winning and losing. What else do you have to go on? You can split hairs and pars out credit all you want. Results are all that matters.
2009 Raiders, head coach, Tom Cable: 5-11
2010 Raiders, head coach, Tom Cable: 8-8.
There’s nothing else solid to go on. Everything else is hearsay and gossip. Unprovable.
The record is provable!
June 28th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Raider J Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Any USC Basketball fans have an opinion on Nicola Vucevic?
true 7 footer or very close to it, tallest guy in this years draft. Strong guy won’t get pushed around and not soft like many European players. Has a great touch from midrange. Blocks shots but not very mobile defensively so he definitely needs to work on this. Needs to work on his low post game as he likes to resort to the jump shot. Guy carried the load for the Trojans who because of injuries/transfers/violations was only like a 7 players deep and they made it to the tourney then beat in the first round by VCU which eventually lost in the final. The guy would just tear it up one game being double teamed then would disappear in another game yet still end up with 15/20 points. Looks like a backup center with the skill/size to be a starter but I question his passion
June 28th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
You running from Affirmative action thing cuz you know damn well it didnt do shhht for blk ppl on the whole. White women made the come up
June 28th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Brien, what Barry O issue? All I saw as your usual rant about him being half white.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Ofcourse u wanted Cable to stay…u want us to always be 8-8 or worse lol…Cable did nada….Hue’s arrival was biggest thing for team
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Brien, still waiting on your source. Till then, it’s just regurgitated garbage. You could have made it up, for all I know.
you’ve already back pedaled.
First you insisted on the 80% number.
Now you’re saying “a majority”.
That’s why there’s no point in discussing it with you. You’re making points that simply can’t be backed up with facts. I’m not going to getting into a lying match with you. I’m only going to discuss facts. Until you can post some sources to your claims, there’s just no point in discussing it. It’s gossip.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Barry O is a democrat and has and will never do nada for black ppl. U always talk about dems are so much better but this guy makes promises to other groups like fags,immigrants and AIPAC…but nada for blacks
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Raider J…..
Going on what little I’ve seen of Vucevic, (I don’t watch much NCAA b-ball).
He’s a decent player, no super star. Good rebounder, defender, can knock down clutch 18-20 footers..
Hope that helps…
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Hue Jackson is an unproven assistant coach who practically nobody wanted. You can’t even compare him with Gruden because Gruden was wanted by several teams when he was just an OC.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Then bringing his prostitute whores on a big road trip in Jax? *
Classic
June 28th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
How is that backpedaling? Is 80 pct not majority?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Barry O has already helped black people. When his health care goes into effect, it will be much easier for a black person in America to get health care than it is today. FACT. Period. So, you’re lying again.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Hue unproven assistant? lol so flacco,chad,stephen davis and tj housmanzadeh would differ with their pro bowl appearances lol
June 28th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
OK, Brien, do you stand by the 80% number, then? Are you still insisting it’s 80%? Either way, you’re full of it till you back it up.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/28/watching-michael-huff-in-practice-made-warren-sapp-want-to-vomit/
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Damn! Guess this blows up the myth that Jamarcus was the last guy to get to the building and the first to leave.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Again MR LIES HAHAHAHA….hue was unproven asst coach lol
June 28th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Who wanted Hue, Brien? Who was considering Hue as a head coach?
I remember after the ‘96 and ‘97 seasons, Gruden was on about 5 different teams’ short lists for HC. Name one team that had Hue on their short list.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Brien, like Yvonne Walker and Tammy Kelly, Hue Callahan is only great between Al’s ears.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Hue Jackson = Bill Callahan. That’s right.
Gruden turns the Raiders around, Davis dumps him for his assistant.
Cable turns the Raiders around, Davis dumps him for his assistant.
Notice there are several similarities in the personalities of Callahan and Hue. Both are good talkers, good at convincing fans they’re in control. Love to show off their knowledge of football terminology. We’ve seen this before. Cable was this team’s true motivator, and we’re going to learn that real quick this year.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
And remember how fans were so sold on Callahan being better than Gruden, too. As if it were an upgrade. Boy did their tune change Jan. 26, 2003.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
if we KEPT Morrison last year, we wouldnt have Ford. I would take Romac and Ford over Morrison 100 times out of 100
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excuse me, but that #8 pick would still be in play and Pouncey, Bryant or even Tebow would have made our passing game better than 23rd last year
June 28th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Again, the Raiders were in a tough spot. They had a ton of free agents and they secured the likes of Richard Seymour, Stanford Routt, Kamerion Wimbley and John Henderson, among others. But it may be difficult to keep free agents Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Michael Huff and Michael Bush as a result. It could also be difficult for Oakland to add outside free agents.
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This is why we need a freakin GM! An 80 year old man over paying for average players, while our playmakers walk after only 4 years of service or more. I hope it doesn’t come to this, un-freakin-believable! Back to rebuild mode! lol
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cable was a moron and a weasel. Cable was terrible play caller, and at the very least he became a terrible oline coach before he was done here. Cable was abysmal managing the clock, and wasnt able to command the respect of the team or his assistant coaches for that matter. Cables favoritism in the locker room destroyed the team and almost caused a total complete mutiny. Cable was bailed out by the veteran leadership from JC and Seymoure and was spared being fired at mid season. Cable was bailed out by scabs the previous year, and fell in love with the ugliest chick at the dance. His failure to seperate his professional duty, from his infatuation with players that he favored regardless of their production finally cost him. Tom cables ridiculous meddling with Hu jax offense was self serving and and blatantly ego driven. This fat joke of a coach even thought he was a better judge of talent than AL DAVIS himself!!! Laughable!!!
Tom cable was in over his head from the gate, only he wast to much of an idiot to realize it, drunk on his own hype.
Good Riddance cable…..YOU SUCKED!!!!!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Barry O’s healtcare helps blk ppl? lol hahahahahahaha
June 28th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Here’s one for all of you semi-pro, “tape breakers”…
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/2010-raiders-what-the-film-revealed/?partner=rss&emc=rss
June 28th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Lol Cable was an oline expert and oline got worse….any explanations for that MR?
June 28th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Here’s one for all of you semi-pro, “tape breakers”…
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i agree with his take on no 77 he was very good last year especially when he was the starter. But I just dont agree with this cats observations, mainly because i dis agree with the basic premise of his takes.
he complains about the screen passes, but when you cant pass protect, your wrs are struggling and you have dmac bush and reece…..YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO RUN THE SCREEN!!!!! Just so you know we scored big time points throwing to our superior athletes and allowing them to out run the defense. ill take it all day and twice on sunday.
He is off on Romac as well. Romac struggled early learning his position change, but by the last 5 games of the year he was very good. This cat seems like a raider hater.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/28/watching-michael-huff-in-practice-made-warren-sapp-want-to-vomit/
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Damn! Guess this blows up the myth that Jamarcus was the last guy to get to the building and the first to leave.
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I normally ignore sapp, i think his dude is in love with his own voice, even if he is spewing lies about the raiders. Sapp was not very good as a player here, he stole money from Davis and has an axe to grind because of how he was told no thank you by Davis.
Having said that at least this story is plausible. i wondered how a player with huffs talent could flop so badly in the pros. Maybe its a lack of commitment.
Interesting theory sapp, I cant dismiss it as easily i dismiss you.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Warren Sappapotomous is a nobody
June 28th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Cable turning aroung the Raiders is crazy talk.
What was cables record when he was calling plays?
Hue Kack, a competant OC came in and the offense
did much better year one than anything cable could
have imagined….
Hue Jack > cable….
June 28th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cable was a moron and a weasel. Cable was terrible play caller, and at the very least he became a terrible oline coach before he was done here. Cable was abysmal managing the clock, and wasnt able to command the respect of the team or his assistant coaches for that matter. Cables favoritism in the locker room destroyed the team and almost caused a total complete mutiny. Cable was bailed out by the veteran leadership from JC and Seymoure and was spared being fired at mid season. Cable was bailed out by scabs the previous year, and fell in love with the ugliest chick at the dance. His failure to seperate his professional duty, from his infatuation with players that he favored regardless of their production finally cost him. Tom cables ridiculous meddling with Hu jax offense was self serving and and blatantly ego driven. This fat joke of a coach even thought he was a better judge of talent than AL DAVIS himself!!! Laughable!!!
Tom cable was in over his head from the gate, only he wast to much of an idiot to realize it, drunk on his own hype.
Good Riddance cable…..YOU SUCKED!!!!!!!
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. Davis never should have let that clown hire his own staff. Poor Jamarcus.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
BRL sucked also…Should have never been drafted, he stole money from Mr. Davis as well…
June 28th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
So blk people cant get health insurance?
LMAO
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RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Barry O has already helped black people. When his health care goes into effect, it will be much easier for a black person in America to get health care than it is today. FACT. Period. So, you’re lying again.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
# RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
And remember how fans were so sold on Callahan being better than Gruden, too. As if it were an upgrade. Boy did their tune change Jan. 26, 2003.
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Callahan and Hu jack cant be mentioned in the same sentence. there one major differences between Callahan and Hu jack.
people skills. Callahan was obtuse and was considered to be a jack ass by players, coaches, staff embers and the local media. One of the reasons Callahan was fired is because his players mutinied and tuned him out. he was despised and couldnt communicate with his players. he couldnt get guys to follow him across the street, he was a disaster on wheels.
Hu jack on the other hand, could sell snow to an eskimo and, his players love him. judging from comments by z. miller, namdi, JC, seymoure, and others on the roster they are excited to play for him. if hu jack fails (and i dont think he will), it wont be due to the same issues that wiped out Callahan. Hu jack is too good for that.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Cable was a moron and a weasel. Cable was terrible play caller, and at the very least he became a terrible oline coach before he was done here. Cable was abysmal managing the clock, and wasnt able to command the respect of the team or his assistant coaches for that matter. Cables favoritism in the locker room destroyed the team and almost caused a total complete mutiny. Cable was bailed out by the veteran leadership from JC and Seymoure and was spared being fired at mid season. Cable was bailed out by scabs the previous year, and fell in love with the ugliest chick at the dance. His failure to seperate his professional duty, from his infatuation with players that he favored regardless of their production finally cost him. Tom cables ridiculous meddling with Hu jax offense was self serving and and blatantly ego driven. This fat joke of a coach even thought he was a better judge of talent than AL DAVIS himself!!! Laughable!!!
Tom cable was in over his head from the gate, only he wast to much of an idiot to realize it, drunk on his own hype.
Good Riddance cable…..YOU SUCKED!!!!!!!
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I’ll take the word of a guy that was on the team over all these other blowhards on tv and the radio. He also talked about Cable’s clulessness as an offensive coach. Right about that one too.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
MR,
I think what you meant to say is it will be easier for people who don’t have insurance to sponge of the ones that do. And the color of their skin will have nothing to do with it.
It’s called wealth redistribution, marxism, or socialism. Take your pic!
mope & change
June 28th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
So blk people cant get health insurance?
LMAO
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RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Barry O has already helped black people. When his health care goes into effect, it will be much easier for a black person in America to get health care than it is today. FACT. Period. So, you’re lying again.
++++++++++
You mean when his socialist heath care bill passes we will be well on our way into a socialistic state….
Barry O = is a hand puppet…
June 28th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Thec,
CNN told MR its a good health care plan…
June 28th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Thec,
CNN told MR its a good health care plan…
++++++++++++
ROFLMAO…..CNN
June 28th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
If we dont get football soon…fk
June 28th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I think the people who dont have insurance have a hard time. specially those with kids.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I’m still wondering y the NFL took away the value of a kickoff return
it’s a part of field position or a chance to score in one play
WTF is up with that!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I have no idea but I think R Goodell is a moron.
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R8dercain Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I’m still wondering y the NFL took away the value of a kickoff return
it’s a part of field position or a chance to score in one play
WTF is up with that!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
R Goodell is a bloodsucking lawyer just like Demaurice Smith. Pair of leaches.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Watching Michael Huff in practice made Warren Sapp want to vomit
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 28, 2011, 5:41 PM EDT
AP
Raiders safety Michael Huff was mostly seen as a disappointment for the first four years of his career. The Raiders told Huff he was on the roster bubble as recently as 2009, but Huff’s play improved dramatically in 2010 in a contract year.
Former Raiders captain Warren Sapp remembers Huff well from early in his career.
“Michael Huff leaves something to be desired,” Sapp said on KESN-FM via the Dallas Morning News. “I watched Huff for two years, not pick a pass off in practice. I seen him make a couple plays, lately. I’d really be interested to see his tape and watch his last couple of years because his first two make you want to throw up watching him practice.”
Sapp said that Huff was often the last to practice and the first to leave.
“I went so far with Michael Huff, and you can ask him this, that my last day in Oakland, I waited in the parking lot for Michael Huff,” Sapp recalled. “I waited in the parking lot because I wanted to talk to the young man because he made me want to throw up watching him practice. I mean, the scout team would complete ball, after ball, after ball. I’m like, ‘You’re not going to make one play? I mean, you’re not even going to put your hand on it and knock it down?’”
Huff is probably going to strike it rich this offseason. Perhaps he’s matured. But Sapp’s words make you wonder if Huff only grew up because free agency was around the corner.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Here’s one for all of you semi-pro, “tape breakers”…
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I agree with this guy about the linebackers, too many converted ends. What happened to Howard in coverage?
Cable’s teams were notorious for benching the most talented player for the Cable favorite. He benched Bush and Mcfadden for Fargus! And last year he preffered to bench howard when Jville was lighting us up in coverage.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Sounds like Huff was a byproduct of the Rob Ryan philosophy endorsed by AL.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
MR is a known liar….at every angle he gets rocked lol
June 28th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Can’t really take anything of what sapp says seriously. he has cried wolf enough times to know he says whatever will get printed, not always the truth.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
# raidertalk Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Here’s one for all of you semi-pro, “tape breakers”…
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I agree with this guy about the linebackers, too many converted ends. What happened to Howard in coverage?
Cable’s teams were notorious for benching the most talented player for the Cable favorite. He benched Bush and Mcfadden for Fargus! And last year he preffered to bench howard when Jville was lighting us up in coverage.
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Good call on Cable. Does howard make a come back this year? Im also not wild about the d end lb conversions, wimbly was fine but groves? Yuck.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
MR is a known liar….at every angle he gets rocked lol
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You are the known liar and societal leech.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Huff year after year gives up tds in the air or on the ground…..we talking multiple for 5 seasons now. This guy cant come back
June 28th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Kell tell me what I have lied on? I already caught u in a lie on the Moss vs Woodson thing
June 28th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
KK, done showing that house already ?
lmfao
June 28th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Kell…..let’s discuss how great your liberal prez has been
June 28th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Huffy does not play Dline or LB, so lets not blame the all running TDs on the kid. On the pass coverage, kid has done a good joob on TEs, and we cant blame him for the TDs that Routt gives up when he doesnt even know where to line up…Huff aint Rod Woodson, but cmon, you know he is playing Safety in a 1960’s scheme, with a Dline that cant stop the run.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
KK, what you really did was escort your wife to the barbershop to get his bowl cut lined up, no?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Kell…..let’s discuss how great your liberal prez has been
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You’re too ignert to discuss politics with. But I will call you a dumbass or two.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Mista……another swing and miss for the real estate guruu
June 28th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Watching NFLN an t.o. Just might not be a bad pick up
it might help our DB’s in practice. An give us someone healthy an better than our beloved Chaz(can’t stay healthy)shilens.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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All I know is that you’re stupid, and a societal leech. Not surprising that you and BrownStains get along so well.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Im ignorant? your the dumbass that said clinton had us in a surplus which was a damn lie since the national debt was still fked!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
How am I a societal leech?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Krappy, enlighten us – what exactly does “ignert” mean?
Too hilarious, you confused old cow!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Hey Barry O is awesome….u see those moves on Ellen?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
How am I a societal leech?
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Dime bag drug-dealer who pays no taxes, hello?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
No thanks to T.O. i just dont see what he brings to the table at 38 coming off a torn acl, other than his locker room circus act.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Beecher…Eating cow duung doesnt confuse him tho
June 28th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Kell i keep tellin u I dont sell dimebags….im a user not a dealer…..so what i dont pay income tax? its unconstitutional
June 28th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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You fkin homeless leech, you think BrownStains is gonnna get your teef fixed?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
so what i dont pay income tax? its unconstitutional
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I bet you aint been to the dentist either. You or BrownStains. Lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Kell just admit it….youre for socialism
June 28th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Kell just admit it….youre for socialism
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I told you dumbass, you’re too ignert to get into those types conversations.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Bree Fool
Hustling dime bags in the parking lot, don’t make you the Raiders Homecoming Queen, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
KK the clown left 45 mins ago to show some property and raced back to his janitorial closet to post on Jerrys blog that Bauce is a leach?
lmao
June 28th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Kell i have perfect straight white teeth and never have had braces in my life…..try again
June 28th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Bauce
I bet you don’t even have a girlfriend.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Krappy, seems while I’ve been away on my luxury Reggae Party Boat cruise to Coronado and all points in between, you’ve been getting hammered on the blog.
Not surprised, just wondering why you don’t come down to Marina Del Rey to work my boat.
$30 a day, old fool, to serve my guests and I shrimp cocktails and operate the PARTYDUDE 8000 Margarita Machine. Not bad, considering you’re flat broke, overweight and out of options.
Time to turn a page, sad old fool – the future is now!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Lol i dont sell weed….i learned years ago when u brun too much tree game and sell….u dont make shhhht
June 28th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Wow, I guess you guys have seen this:
Former Raiders captain Warren Sapp remembers Huff well from early in his career.
“Michael Huff leaves something to be desired,” Sapp said on KESN-FM via the Dallas Morning News. “I watched Huff for two years, not pick a pass off in practice. I seen him make a couple plays, lately. I’d really be interested to see his tape and watch his last couple of years because his first two make you want to throw up watching him practice.”
Sapp said that Huff was often the last to practice and the first to leave.
“I went so far with Michael Huff, and you can ask him this, that my last day in Oakland, I waited in the parking lot for Michael Huff,” Sapp recalled. “I waited in the parking lot because I wanted to talk to the young man because he made me want to throw up watching him practice. I mean, the scout team would complete ball, after ball, after ball. I’m like, ‘You’re not going to make one play? I mean, you’re not even going to put your hand on it and knock it down?’”
Huff is probably going to strike it rich this offseason. Perhaps he’s matured. But Sapp’s words make you wonder if Huff only grew up because free agency was around the corner.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Haha Kell…girlfriend or not I bet ive lambed a woman more recently than u have….and if u must know i have a few women who i deal with from time to time
June 28th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Thanks for reposting nothing kell….idiot
June 28th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
If you talk politics, you know I will show up.
“…libertarianism is solely a political philosophy. It asks one and only one question: Under what conditions is the use of violence justified? And it gives one and only one answer: violence can be used only in response, or reaction to, a prior violation of property rights.” Walter Block
Block does not limit the definition of “private property” to land ownership or even physical property in general. Instead, property includes all of one’s life, liberty, and justly acquired possessions.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Preist, you would’nt look at a 5 11qb? How tall is Brees? The only thing that I will probably ever agree with MR on is that it is dumb not to bring back Bruce. If he is not hurt last seasom he finishes as the starter and JC is out the door. Someone posted Bruce wont be in the league in 2011.Lmao. Jc has all the physical tools, but QB has alot to do with the brain. Thats his down fall. Bruce is a far better qb imo. Cover two can be beat every time w the right call. Three routes to the same side, d has to pick its poision. Thats what you can learn from a video game.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Ignorant?….u can hardly explain an tents on socialism u dummy
June 28th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Brian the Genital, dude, stop stealing my blog game! Remember I came up with bragging about my ladies first!
Ha ha, remember that one, Genital? Too funny!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Kirk….exactly what is bruce better at? See his wins? See his td-int ratio? See his comp pct? See his points per game?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Well beecher….u saw Kell post about someone having a girlfriend so my post wwas quite relevant….keep up
June 28th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Tenets*
June 28th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Kell told me 0bumba was digging us out of a ditch.
I asked him for 1 example and he couldn’t come up with one.
lol
June 28th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Kell youre a joke…..u support heavy govt intervention and support IRS and the FED….u love barry o’s lame healthcare plan….on top of that u blatantly lied on moss vs woodson….even better u love to pump ya black fist and holler racism but u are married tto a white woman…..amazing
June 28th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Mista as if him or MR CAN LOL……..when the bill passes is all i heard…..when? lol
June 28th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Oh boy look at the dummies explaining democracy, Hohooo!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Oh yeah outta a ditch with unemployment skyrocketing and economy gettin no better lol…..dont ya know many black ppl now feel duped by Barry O?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Yeah Kell be like Barry O and support your big wig upper elite friends that work in wallstreet and the banking system…..no wonder you love the iRS and FED lol
June 28th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Bauce why don’t you go get a job, get a girlfriend. Because, you and BrownStains aint gonna make it.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Hahaha kell as if you can explain it
June 28th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I missed that, but I did see your grandpa Krappy brag about his Chalet in Switzerland.
How come every year the old goat claims he “just bought” that raggedy old hillside?
Poor confused old fool …
June 28th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Bauce, the bill passed last year. Not a single Dem read the bill, but they signed it in anyway.
Here’s the good part. It doesn’t kick in until 2012 so we start paying now for something that doesn’t start until later.
Libtard economics = make them pay now so the projected cost is not as high….its like spreading out a 5 yr loan into 7 years….hey look how small my note is.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Lol just have one bz? Naw buddy not that time yet….i do have a job dummy
June 28th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Oh yeah outta a ditch with unemployment skyrocketing and economy gettin no better lol…..dont ya know many black ppl now feel duped by Barry O?
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You only speak for your dumbass, and BrownStains dumbass, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Mista I know that….im just laughing at MR saying when lol
June 28th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Quite a few, the polls show anyway. KK is an exception!
mope & change
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
dont ya know many black ppl now feel duped by Barry O?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Yeah, dont pay any attention to the facts!
lol
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KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
You only speak for your dumbass, and BrownStains dumbass, ok?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Wow Kell you that outta touch with blk ppl u didnt know this? lol guess that precious life in Alameda has u blind to certain things
June 28th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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You don’t speak for black people, ok? BrownStains, yes.
June 28th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Mista…..got a link?
June 28th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Bauce, making plays when things brake down, reading the field, putting touch on short passes, not starring down receveivers, throwing crossing routes, pumping up his team and the fan, quicker release, and I am sure there is more. Imo
June 28th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
MLK WAS NOT a hustler ass preacher? They dont have fbi tapes of himl saying he was a marxist? Did he not attend a known commie school in Tennessee?….ur just a liar or in denial…either way you are pitiful
June 28th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Ummm I saw JC MAKE MORE PLAYS WHEN things broke down last year…so ur wrong there….lol touch on shorter passes? grad is firing as hard as possible with that noodle ass arm…wrong again….Grad looks aat one wr then goes out of pocket….he doesnt make progressions….again wrong….pumped up for 1 half of football? lol u lose again
June 28th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Quick release means what when ur 52 pct passing?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Bruce pumped up team in STL game…thats it. AZ how pumped was he letting the clock run out at the 1? How pumped were people losing back to back weeks making us 1-3? How pumped was team losing at home vs miami?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
You folks that favor Grad like him because he reminds you of yourselves. Lisping no talent having injury prone all guts no brains type of ppl lol
June 28th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Said imo, also imo everything you said is bs. Lmao I’m for the guy thats in the game. Take off the blinders.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Never should have played miami game hurt, just shows how much faith staff had in jc.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
“Hi im grathkowthkey I pump my theammathes up and tsssshe fanthz but I truly sssuckth cuz I canth ssssstay healttthhhhhheeee or win gamthesssss”
June 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Thanks inoneword & 99lifer for your opinions on Vucevic.
I read how excited Doug Collins was to draft him, saw the highlights & wanted to get a lil’ more perspective.
735. The link was a fair assessment of 2010 Raiders. Lets hope Jackson, Campbell and the WRs are ready to open up the offense. A full season with Ford and (hopefully) Chaz will be a significant upgrade
June 30th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I bet Fitzgerald would sign for Asomugha money
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