Sapp’s critique of Huff is three years old
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, June 28th, 2011 at 5:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Warren Sapp told the Dallas Morning News watching Michael Huff practice made him want to vomit.
A damning criticism for a soon-to-be free agent, but keep in mind Sapp hasn’t watched Huff practice since 2007. At the time, Huff was struggling through his second year as a miscast strong safety. Things got even worse in 2008, when Huff moved to free safety _ a move which was supposed to liberate him _ and he lost his job to Hiram Eugene.
Things have gotten better the past two seasons, as Huff had 14 passes defensed and three interceptions in 2009 and had three more picks, seven passes defensed and four sacks in 2010.
Enough for the Raiders to load up with a big offer in free agency?
Doubtful.
Huff’s fate was likely sealed (as well as defensive coordinator John Marshall) last Dec. 12, when he surrendered a 48-yard touchdown pass to Jason Hill in a 38-31 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars.
It came on a second-and-18 play with two tight ends and a single back, with Huff giving up the scoring play to Hill in man coverage in an alignment that didn’t include a cornerback.
The Raiders have shopped Huff during at least two offseasons and found no takers. Now that Huff has had two decent years, he could get an offer which far outweighs his true value. Oakland seems to have anticipated that when they signed Eugene to a four-year extension at a rate that could makes him either a well-paid backup or a relatively underpaid starter.
Interesting to see how hard Rob Ryan pushes the Dallas Cowboys to sign Huff. Ryan always talks up his players in a media setting, but if Sapp’s practice reviews of Huff are true, then the defensive coordinator must have had his share of nausea as well.
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June 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Wow, 3 years old, eh? and your point?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Huff is too much an up and down player.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
You really need the point explained?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Huff is too much an up and down player.
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Up & down on your backside?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Krappy, I really can’t way you’re in a bad mood all the time.
You’re a wildly successful realtor, a world traveler, married to a beautiful woman with a stunning modern hairdo and own prime real estate in Switzerland.
I must be missing something.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Never been a fan of Huff. Just let him go.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Huff is too much an up and down player.
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Up & down on your backside?
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Wat’s your problem, old man?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Warren who? Watching his half-a**ed effort as a Raider lineman made me vomit!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
The Raiders have lost 57% of their games since 1989. Blaming anybody but Al Davis is ridiculous.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Warren who? Watching his half-a**ed effort as a Raider lineman made me vomit!
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The Raiders have lost 57% of their games since 1989. Blaming anybody but Al Davis is ridiculous.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Staying on complaining all day and not coming back when Al is gone is even more ridiculous
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Stak….Kell deep down hates himself and his life…..we’re all laughing at him
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Wat’s your problem, old man?
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You must be talking about Al Davis?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Kell makes lame accustaions with nothing to back it up lol
June 28th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Stak….Kell deep down hates himself and his life…..we’re all laughing at him
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Hahaha, Hehehe, hahaha, Hehehe.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Obsessed with an 80 yr old man that doesnt know u exist lol too funny
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Kell makes lame accustaions with nothing to back it up lol
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Stak….Kell deep down hates himself and his life…..we’re all laughing at him
June 28th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Obsessed with an 80 yr old man that doesnt know u exist lol too funny
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And you’re obsessed with me, 58 yrs old. Lol. Troll.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Al Davis is a joke.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Actually Kell most on blog know you hate yourself and your life….anyone that brags that they have a white wife displays self hate
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Bauce, you’re obsessed with me, but I don’t give a fk about you. Lol
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1. Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Kell…hue calls the plays….he designs the gameplan on offense not Al……….now defense he sure has his hand in it
2. Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Kell lol…..ppl way on to ya man. You are the troll in this blog. If no one hates Al like you all of a sudden you get pissed
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Kell….what about those links I had for ya last week? Still believe Moss did Woodson in or what?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Lol Kelly what does that have to do with Hue calling and designing the plays? If Im Al’s shoeshine guy or what have you had nada to do with JC DROPPING BACK 50 TIMES
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Hahahaha Kell and his copied files
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Hey Kell since u save every post…..go pull up those two links from last week
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Kell….got a link?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
When Gruden and Kiffin ran the offense in Oakland it was dink and dunk…..now we got Kell’s LINK and LUMP offense
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Kell….got them links yet?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Kell u are lost….just stop now lol. That last post didnt make any damn sense. U remind me of the two Asians in South Park……”City Wok vs City Sushi”….no one understands a damn thing out ur mouth
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Kell….how about u delve deeper into me being against paying taxes and being against socialism at the same time lol. That was funny
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Hey Kell….lets talk about the successful Barry No adminstration……u see that jump shot? U see those smooth playa moves he displayed on the rug doctoring lesbo show Ellen…..to Beyonce nonetheless
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Hey Kell….what about the NAACP being started by a black person? lol that one was rich
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Hey Kell u remember me slashin JaFartass Russell with my word on the street tales? Im just a poser and I didnt know shhht huh?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Back to you Kell…..again tell us about your vast traveling experience so you can remind us why you are a better person than we are
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Also Kell talk about the jealousy and hate towards you because of your dime piece of a white wifey
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Yo Kell…come on man….waiting on ya!
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Kell how is that red corvette running these days?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Kell is too busy selling a house I guess
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Kell….let’s discuss the farce surplus during the Clinton…..ok?
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Kell how about the obvious division in the democratic party? Care to drop some knowledge? Prolly just will grab links
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
LOL…..the eventual responses from Kell will be classic…….CANT WAIT!
Bauce Rules Says:
June 27th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Kell why dont we take a survey on that…..let’s see who bloggers say who owns who……notice you couldnt respond to any question
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
with regards to Bruce throw out the numbers our team did look a lot better than it did with JC early in the year as he insisted on getting all the receivers involved and displayed an infectious passion. I believe JC is the better candidate long term because Bruce is injury prone and JC STILL has more potential even tho he isn’t exactly 23 years old anymore. Bruce did have some bad games for us most notably vs Miami but I never saw him play that badly for us until that point and come to find out he was playing hurt so I give him a pass on that game whereas JC had a few stinkers with us in TENN STL PITT
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
#19, Maybe in your eyes, but there’s not too many owners out there who have won three Super Bowls!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Im obsessed with you? lol….u started this with me 3 years ago….U say old posts from me……that is obsession right there…..u obsessed with trying to best the Bauce but you cant. Its to the point where your sales numbers are affected by it
June 28th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Sorry Kell, it should have been, Kell who? Watching his half- a**ed effort as a Raider blogger makes me vomit!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Grads was awful vs the Cards….what are you talkin about? Grad also was on his way to stinkin it up vs SD until God intervened and he got hurt
June 28th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Lol look at Kell hahahahahaha…we were in middle of convo and then u sat there like a coward as usual….didnt 666 get on ya earlier about talking about me when im not on blog? lol…scored again!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Raiderjambo Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
#19, Maybe in your eyes, but there’s not too many owners out there who have won three Super Bowls!
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Yes, he won 3 Super Bowls in an 8 year period. The Last one being 28 years ago.
A lot of good that does today’s fans, right?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
And Kell all those posts were quite relevant in an attack on all the bs you spewed for years on this blog
June 28th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Kell if u dont like it dont watch games…dont follow the Raiders until Al dies….u b-tch
June 28th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Bauce, do you think Al Davis give a schit about you sucking his diapers all day?
Do you think he appreciates that?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
And U havent sold a house since 89….ur point?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
U havent successfully gave it to the wife since 89 as well
June 28th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Now, If Davis was WINNING 57% of his games since 1989, my attitude would be different.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Al Davis is cool…I doubt he would have an issue like me…..bet ya he would hire me on the spot…..no prob ill take that job
June 28th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Wat’s your problem, old man?
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You must be talking about Al Davis?
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see wat I mean?
When you were younger and sharp you would know exactly who I was talkin to.
Now you sound confused, and constantly need explanations.
Guess I should be understanding. My grandfather does what you do. Repeats himself over and over. Gets all pissy when corrected. Forgets what he says.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Al Davis is cool…I doubt he would have an issue like me…..bet ya he would hire me on the spot…..no prob ill take that job
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Gee, I wonder why he hasn’t. No GED, perhaps?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
No Kell u would b-tch still….its in ur nature
June 28th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Brien, you’re the perfect applicant for the Raiders. You’re definitely black, and you definitely didn’t go to Notre Dame.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
see wat I mean?
When you were younger and sharp you would know exactly who I was talkin to.
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I guess that’s why Al Davis can’t remember his Head Coaches name, no?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Richochet
Hobs Gnarly
Archive Tony
and, now, introducing….drumroll:
Stak!
What a zoo.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Stak….kell does that all the time…ask him about moss ever scoring a TD on woodson….watch him lie
June 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
MR…that was kinda funny lol
June 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
KoolKell? Considering you posted to me, where I didn’t give a fk about you,I guess you just copped to the fact you’re obbsessed with me?
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Bauce, you’re obsessed with me, but I don’t give a fk about you. Lol
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Huff is too much an up and down player.
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Up & down on your backside?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
The Oakland General Manager has lost 57% of his games for the last 23 years. WOW!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
See MR i dont really got major issue wit ya no more….ur actually funny…u lie alot but you are entertaining…..Kell on other hand is sad…at least he can add some humor
June 28th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Alright, Stak. Let’s hear it. I’m unemployed, by my own admission. I live in a small apartment, by my own admission. I’m single, by my own admission. Isn’t that the same song and dance, richochet, I mean Hobs, …I mean Tony…I mean…Stak?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Lol anyhow its been fun guys…..Bauce outro….at ya later
June 28th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Richochet, it’s funny you don’t like cross posting. That’s two names today alone. You were Archive Tony an hour ago. Now “Stak”. lol. What gives? And, no, I’m not accusing “everyone” of being you. Just you. you don’t see me accusing Brien of being you, do you? Because he isn’t hung up on the same topics that you are, and, even though he is one deranged individual, he doesn’t have as lousy of a personality as you. That’s how I know it’s you! Get it?
June 28th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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Leach!
June 28th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Richochet
Hobs Gnarly
Archive Tony
and, now, introducing….drumroll:
Stak!
What a zoo.
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Listen to the pansy.
I called your bichass out months ago, mama’s boy.
Gave you address and everything.
You not only bailed, but you asked someone else to show up for you.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Lol anyhow its been fun guys…..Bauce outro….at ya later
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Bye, dumbass.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Stak
You’re a dumbass, too.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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Societal Leach.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
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Stak, are you a societal leach, too?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Stak
You’re a dumbass, too.
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I’ll consider the source
June 28th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
I think Jano missed at az. Bruce did what he needed to.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
And now Richocet’s calling people out to fights, again. Can you believe this guy owns his own business? He has the personality of a 15 year old!
June 28th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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Stak, you an Aryan Nation guy, too?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Richostak,
How many employees do you have?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Stak #8 great post. Hate his azz like the Raider haters in here.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
And now Richocet’s calling people out to fights, again. Can you believe this guy owns his own business? He has the personality of a 15 year old!
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Wrong again. Was you that challenged me. I accepted.
You forget that? Wander back to beginning of march or so, where I stated I call your bluff.
You made some lame excuse about reading a review of the rest so because of that you bailed, lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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Stak, you an Aryan Nation guy, too?
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No, but thanks for asking
June 28th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Richochet, you’re the one starting shiet right now. Why don’t you just kick back and have fun? Why is everything a fight with you?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Stak Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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Stak, you an Aryan Nation guy, too?
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No, but thanks for asking
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But you like losing, anyway?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
@Raiderfankirk
You have to lose 57% of your games for the last 23 years, and keep quiet, to be a Raider Fan, in your opinion?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Richochet, you own your own business. You live in Alameda, which is beautiful. Nice bars and restaurants pretty much everywhere within a 10 mile radius. Great people. Even some nice looking women. Dude, go out. Have fun. Buy a few rounds. Why are you in here starting shiit with everyone? I make 30k/year. Can barely afford my rent. Live in Sacramento. Only thing to do is go to the river, and it’s raining today. If I were in your shoes I wouldn’t be here. That’s for sure.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Richochet, you own your own business. You live in Alameda, which is beautiful.
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Richochet lives in Hayward, and I seriously doubt he has a business.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
we need branch at fs and mitchell at ss.i think branch can play the single deep because he can cover space better than man.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Well, guess he lied then, Kell. No wonder he’s so angry. He’s also a cross posting troll. That we know, too. Did you find out where he lived through your work?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Chuck, I like Stevie Brown at FS. He’s a natural playmaker.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Well, guess he lied then, Kell. No wonder he’s so angry. He’s also a cross posting troll. That we know, too. Did you find out where he lived through your work?
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He was calling my office and cell phone. I had his phone trapped and got his number and address. I’ve seen him and his “house”
That’s back when he gave up that moniker.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Kk when was the last time you said anything positive? Thats my opinion, how many times do you you need to post 57%? Got stats on all teams for last 23 years?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Kk when was the last time you said anything positive? Thats my opinion, how many times do you you need to post 57%? Got stats on all teams for last 23 years?
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I say positive things all the time, you decide what you want to react to.
See post#72
June 28th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Interesting, Kell. Well, I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they get exposed. Looks like he’s exposed. I’ll be sure to give him the little respect he deserves.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I have to agree wholeheartedly with the link from the previous thread from the NY times about the team last year.
-Agreed that the strength of this team was Tom Cable and his O-line play. They dominated in every one of our wins, and our division foes defensive lines didn’t even compete in 5 of the 6 divisional games against our O-line. I haven’t seen professional athletes quit like SD did at home against us since Roberto Duran. Completely outclassed and didn’t even fight back.
-Agreed that LB’s were a major issue, especially the outside ones, in the running game. Never have I seen so many TE’s just manhandle LB’s like teams did against Wimbley, Groves and Scott.
-Agreed that Soup was at his best, when he was asked to do the least. At some point in time, if this team wants to fancy winning playoff games, that will have to change.
-Agreed that Shonasty is emerging as a player. That much is beyond obvious.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Kirk, I’ll say something positive. The Raiders can win the Super Bowl if Al retires.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Say something critical about Al Davis, whose lost 57% of his games for the last 23 years, and this blog goes into a hysterical tizzy.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
I think thats the first one I’ve seen in forever. Good timing. I think I’m warming to the idea of Branh fs Mitchel ss. Branch plays well at mid field with ball in front of him. Deffinatly want to see both in preseason, if we get one. I still would love to see Aso at fs.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
I still would love to see Aso at fs.
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Don’t know why in the Hell anyone would put the world’s best CB at FS?
But you’re a true blue fan, you must be right.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Saying he plays well in front of him so maybe,so maybe good fs
June 28th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Last one was for Branch
June 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
If Aso is the man then fs is the one spot on our D he could shine. I e Woodson former cb. I e Aso college saftey.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
MR and KK,
It will be nteresting to see if there is any type of major news story generated from Beck’s show today.
I was listening to his show on XM radio on the drive down to El Paso just now, and he told a story that he went to a park in NY a few nights ago with his family to watch a movie in the park thing (Hitchcock movie) and he and his family were heckled and drinks were spilled on them and on and on. I couldn’t tell completely because it was the radio, but I’m pretty sure he was crying (or almost crying), in front of a live audience, lol.
Drama queen.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
If Aso is the man then fs is the one spot on our D he could shine. I e Woodson former cb. I e Aso college saftey.
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Sounds crazy to me, but, let’s see what the other True Blue Fans say.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Al obviously tipped his hand before the lockout that retaining and re-signing Miller, Bush and Wimbley were higher priorities than Nnamdi and Huff.
Only way, IMO, that Nnamdi stays, is if we start losing other guys we thought we would have re-signed to free up some cash.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Beck certainly could have picked a more suitable place for his family to watch a Hitchcock movie. Alabama perhaps?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Works like a champ on madden, Huff at third corner.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Giants about to bang out their 7th in a row.
Phillies want none of us.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I’d never heard you mention the Giants, until they won the Series.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Alabama perhaps?
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That was actually kind of funny.
But I don’t think Beck would be all that welcomed at city parks in Alabama either.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
I just get to gloat more this year, that’s all.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
What do you think about moving Nnamdi to FS?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
How was the Maceo Parker show?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Show’s not until July 23rd
June 28th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Nnamdi seems much more natural as a press-corner.
FS might make a little less than a CB, so Al might be interested in that, lol.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
It would be interesting to see how Maceo’s doing.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
I wonder the pace of the show, size of the band, size of crowd, etc.
I’m just going to pay my respects.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
You know how many people passed me by today and totally ignored me? Today was lonely and all I could hear was the fog horn going off in the distance and all I wanted to do was talk Raider football. Nobody would listen. Nobody heard a word I said. All they did was pass me by. Nobody cared that I told them the lock out would continue because everyone is greedy. Everyone. But no one heard me.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
77.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I have to agree wholeheartedly with the link from the previous thread from the NY times about the team last year.
-Agreed that the strength of this team was Tom Cable and his O-line play. They dominated in every one of our wins, and our division foes defensive lines didn’t even compete in 5 of the 6 divisional games against our O-line. I haven’t seen professional athletes quit like SD did at home against us since Roberto Duran. Completely outclassed and didn’t even fight back.
-Agreed that LB’s were a major issue, especially the outside ones, in the running game. Never have I seen so many TE’s just manhandle LB’s like teams did against Wimbley, Groves and Scott.
-Agreed that Soup was at his best, when he was asked to do the least. At some point in time, if this team wants to fancy winning playoff games, that will have to change.
-Agreed that Shonasty is emerging as a player. That much is beyond obvious.
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Now that is a good story. Did you have people stop and listen to you? I sure would have if I could get around. But I must say I like the part about JC being his best when asked to do the least. It sure was Cables team. The players sure liked to play for him. But why Mr Davis does what he does is a mystery to me.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
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June 27, 2011 1:59 pm ET by Shauna Theel
On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace criticized a University of Maryland study which indicated that Fox News viewers are more misinformed than the consumers of other news media. Wallace said the study labeled those who “questioned whether climate change is occurring” as misinformed, and suggested that doing so would be improper.
The study actually asked, “Do you think that MOST SCIENTISTS believe that” 1) Climate change is occurring, 2) Views are evenly divided or 3) Climate change is not occurring. Noting that the correct answer is that most scientists believe that climate change is occurring, the study found that of those who said they watched Fox News “almost every day,” 60 percent got it wrong — significantly higher than the consumers of other news sources.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201106270010
June 28th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
77. Right on JFB and good link 99lifer,
Its fair to expect Campbell to be a lot more comfortable and confident with the offense 2011.
A full season with Ford, Chaz & T. Jones will make a difference.
min. 9 wins and playoffs or bust
4-2 v. AFC West
2-2 v. AFC East
2-2 v. NFC North
1-1 v. CLE & HOU
At least!
June 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
How can the lockout continue because “everyone” is greedy? The owners are the ones locking the players out. This is a one way street. Players are ready to play. Owners are not ready to unlock the gates.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Sapp used to be an interesting interview. Some of those old NFL Films segments with him were quite entertaining.
Now that I’ve had the distinct mispleasure of observing him more frequently through Inside The NFL on Shotime, I’ve come to the conclusion he’s just a loud mouthed idiot. He’s not entertaining and offers very little real insight into the game.
He’s made quite a few disparaging remarks about the Raids. It’s obvious he doesn’t care for Al Davis. He took some cheap shots at Cable. Now he’s chosen to lambaste Huff.
Some of his ‘critiques’ are probably sour grapes and an attempt to keep his name in the news. Certainly doesn’t hurt his career to be viewed as being outspoken and controversial.
That’s not to say that whatever he says regarding the Raiders should be summarily dismissed. There’s probably a kernel of truth in his observations. But I take everything he says with a grain of salt. I consider the source and his motivation.
I don’t like Sapp. But I don’t like to exaggerate how poorly he played while he was with the Raids either. I’ve seen it said that he was total garbage in Oakland. Can’t agree with that. Certainly a disappointment and on the downside of his career, but not total garbage.
I’ll give him credit for being motivated and trying his best while he was here. Never quit on the team like Moss.
Also appreciated that he didn’t go running to the press to complain about being moved to DE the year Ryan experimented with that. He obviously wasn’t happy about that, but bit the bullet and kept quiet. I’ll give him credit for keeping his mouth shut.
Wish he’d do it more often.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Sapp was here 4 seasons….he was atrocious and a big part of the losing atmosphere amongst the players. Huff is a j-cat for sure but dissing Sapp like he did after a team session is cool to me
June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Sapp played decent from a pass rush perspective in 06 but was truly a joke stopping the run. Nothing better than that rookie scrub OL beating him up during training camp….i booed sapp at the games
June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Outro……
June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The Raiders were losing 57% of their games since 1989. Long before Warren Sapp got here.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Oakland Raiders Might Get Lucky with Michael Bush
Jun
28
8:38a
by James Arcellana
Just when it looked like the news for the Oakland Raiders could not get worse, there is a beacon of hope. Earlier this week, reports surfaced that under the new CBA, the Raiders could wind up finding themselves over the new salary cap and forced to cut players in order to make room.
Now, it appears to be a chance the Raiders economic woes will be lessened, even if only slightly.
As has been reported numerous times throughout the NFL Lockout, assuming the new CBA moves unrestricted free agency back to four years, the Raiders will be looking at two of their bigger pieces in Zach Miller and Michael Bush becoming unrestricted free agents. This would mean that the two players would have the ability to test the free agent market and if they do choose to come back to Oakland, they would likely receive a much bigger contract than they would have under the first and third round tenders given by the Raiders right before the lockout began.
However, this morning, Adam Caplan theorized that Michael Bush actually might not be an unrestricted free agent after all. Bush spent his rookie season with the Raiders on the non-football injury list (NFI) and as a result did not see the field for the entire year. Caplan believes that because he was put on the NFI, that he may not be able to claim service for that year, meaning he has only three years credit in the league as opposed to four.
Incase you do not recall, Bush was originally considered to be a high value draft pick out of Louisville. However, a broken leg his senior year meant that Bush fell all of the way to the fourth round where the Raiders grabbed him. In addition, the fact that Bush broke his leg while in college, allowed the Raiders to place him on the non-football injury list (even though he injured it in a football game).
This could wind up being a big benefit to the Raiders. Al Davis fully intends on re-signing the back up to Darren McFadden and if the Raiders can get him for a first and third round tender, it will be the second time the Raiders will have gotten Michael Bush for a steal.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I think Mr Davis wll give Bush a fair contract even still. This kid has been unlucky his entire career with injuries and bad coaches. No reason to make that continue give the kid a good contract so he plays worry free you don’t want a kid here playing out the string until he can get paid. It’s counterproductive.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
With Huff it’s like “Leave the gun, get the canolie.”
June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I really don’t think Huff will be here and I said so earlier I prefer to use Branch at FS and I don’t dislike Huff anymore as I did early in his career when he would watch rec’s catch passes. Branch and Mm34 are high octane high energy attitude players with some nasty attitudes. I like the way Branch plays same Hue does, He hits he has sick range and speed. He plays the ball much better than Huff used to he just can’t cover one on one but at FS he doesn’t have to.
With MM34 at SS who is a much better cover SS you have hitters and High attitude aggressive safties for the first time in 20 years or more. Those two kids can change this secondary playing in their natural positions. Huff should’ve played the way he played the last 2 years early in his career he had the ability to do so he just didn’t do until his 4th season I had had enough of him and was done. I felt the same way Sapp did watching him play games. He was as bad as Stu who was piss poor. Single high safety isn’t hard when you play man defense as people think. It’s only hard if you suck at it.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
We all know Camp aint Payton Manning but to say he was his best when asked to do the least. Well if that’s a slap at him it’s no different than a ton of QB’s in this league. There are only 6-8 great QB’s in this league the rest are of that ilk the more you ask of them the more of a chnace they struggle. That goes for Matt Ryan and Matt Sanhcez and and a lot of QB’s including Joe Flacco’s and so forth. The Tom Brady’s and Drew Bress’s and Payton Mannings are far and few between. I’d include Eli Manning in the more you ask the worse you might get group because this is a very tough position not very many excel in it the way these top few do.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
watching the A’s play ball is like watching a high suspense horror film sometimes. You see a bunch of people doing a bunch of dumb things to put themsleves in peril.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Huff will probably end up playing for the Ravens, just as three other former Raider DBs havr.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
115.priesttj Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
watching the A’s play ball is like watching a high suspense horror film sometimes. You see a bunch of people doing a bunch of dumb things to put themsleves in peril.
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hahahahahahha….ROFLMAO…..That was a good 1…..
June 29th, 2011 at 12:48 am
good morning raider fans all over the world. i sure do love the chat in here. raider football. keepin it real.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:12 am
113.priesttj Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I really don’t think Huff will be here and I said so earlier I prefer to use Branch at FS and I don’t dislike Huff anymore as I did early in his career when he would watch rec’s catch passes. Branch and Mm34 are high octane high energy attitude players with some nasty attitudes. I like the way Branch plays same Hue does, He hits he has sick range and speed. He plays the ball much better than Huff used to he just can’t cover one on one but at FS he doesn’t have to.
With MM34 at SS who is a much better cover SS you have hitters and High attitude aggressive safties for the first time in 20 years or more. Those two kids can change this secondary playing in their natural positions. Huff should’ve played the way he played the last 2 years early in his career he had the ability to do so he just didn’t do until his 4th season I had had enough of him and was done
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Oh do “YOU” prefer to use Branch at FS?
Branch’s glaring weakness is biting on the play fake and his coverage and you think a switch to Free Safety by our leading tackler 2 yrs in a row is a good thing?
That may happen and with the unknown of Woodsen and Nnamdi who knows. It could happen but it would be a surprise if it worked.
Spurious and unsupported logic.
Honestly Priest you don’t even know what the position entails.
“On pass plays, the free safety is expected to assist the cornerback on his side and to close the distance to the receiver by the time the ball reaches him. Offenses tend to use the play-action pass specifically to make the free safety expect a run play, which would draw him closer to the line of scrimmage, and reduce his effectiveness as a pass defender. Furthermore, quarterbacks often use a technique to “look off” a free safety, by purposely looking to the other side of the field during a pass play, with the intention to lure the free safety away from the intended target receiver on the other side of the field.”
What on earth makes you think that sounds like Branch?
You then go on to say “He plays the ball much better than Huff used to he just can’t cover one on one but at FS he doesn’t have to.”
BUT: If the offense puts a receiver in the slot, then the free safety may be called upon to cover that receiver.
Ass-i-nine Priest.
“Huff should’ve played the way he played the last 2 years early in his career he had the ability to do so he just didn’t do until his 4th season I had had enough of him and was done”
He was learning the single hardest position in defensive football. Single high safety for the Oakland Raiders. No one plays it that way as a staple.
I always questiona guy who “finally gets it” during a contract year and agree its too little too late probably if someone ponies up for him but there could be a struggle in the secondary if Huff and Aso depart.
“MM34″ isn’t a lock as a coverman and his experience at SS is some reps in the pros and 23 games at a Miami Ohio.
Bottom line Preist, you come off like you’ve got some inside juice when you’re actually more of a blow hard. I just hope people take your posts for what they are. Ill informed opinion.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:08 am
115.priesttj Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
watching the A’s play ball is like watching a high suspense horror film sometimes. You see a bunch of people doing a bunch of dumb things to put themsleves in peril.
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LMFAO!! That’s funny Priest!
June 29th, 2011 at 3:12 am
Sapp talks out of his rusty sheriff’s star.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:26 am
I’ve watched 3 games since the season ended from NFLN (Miami, Jax, Indy) and MM34 played a lot in all of those games. He stood out all right, stood out for not being very good.
Yes, he did have the nice hustle play to get the INT in the Jax game. Great hit from Branch, good hustle from Mitchell.
Other than that, I haven’t seen him do one thing. Not making a tackle around the LOS on a running play(although I could probably point out about 25 running plays ran right out him between the 3 games), not breaking up one pass he is in coverage on, not even disrupting a QB’s rhythm when he blitzed better yet hitting the QB (and he blitzed a ton in the 3 games), and not even allowing a catch but tackling a guy before the sticks.
I like MM34 and his attitude. He is a very good ST player (on the Ford KO return against Indy, he sealed off 2 guys) and when he has people in hitting range, he pops them.
But the two most eye-opening things when reviewing the film (from my perspective) so far, is just how bad MM34 and Robert Gallery are getting abused out there. At least MM34 is young, so that can be part of his excuse.
Not sure what Gallery’s was, besides the fact he apparently stinks.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Whats that? Warren Sapp is crapping on another Raider? Hey QP Eater, you LOVED Oakland when Al was writing you ridiculous game checks for little to no production. You were ok with being paid to be invisible. Keep pointing fingers fat boy.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:57 am
if we KEPT Morrison last year, we wouldnt have Ford. I would take Romac and Ford over Morrison 100 times out of 100
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BCZ:
excuse me, but that #8 pick would still be in play and Pouncey, Bryant or even Tebow would have made our passing game better than 23rd last year
June 29th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Sapp will talk crap all the time! i lost respect for him when he was interviewed and the question was how does it feel tobe a Raider. Sapp said, I’m a Buc but in Silver and Black! It was funny when he skipped through warm ups though…lol
June 29th, 2011 at 6:00 am
I’ve watched 3 games since the season ended from NFLN (Miami, Jax, Indy) and MM34 played a lot in all of those games. He stood out all right, stood out for not being very good.
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JFB,
quit trashing your starting safety!
you want Stevie Brown or Hiram Eugene out there ???
Didn’t think so. Mitch will be a player
Get Over It
June 29th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Did Sapp ever talk trash about his former Bucs coaches & teammates?
Is he just a Raider hater now, because he couldn’t “change the culture” as the previous 4 Head Coaches have promised?
June 29th, 2011 at 6:02 am
MM34 impressed me early in the season in his ability (apparently) to cover TEs, but lets not forget, our coaching staff supposedly wanted to cut this guy last year. I certainly havent seen anything from him that makes me think he can start, and truthfully, if Huff leaves I think there is a much better chance that DVD or Chekwa move to FS than MM34 starting at SS. IF we lose Huff I think we should (try) Branch at FS, but brink in Melvin Bullett to play SS
June 29th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Sapp didnt care to try to change any culture. He came in, collected his game check and walked away talking about how bad it is. If he was a true professional he would have came in and made a damn difference like Seymour did. I mean he is berating Huff for not being a leader when he was a ROOKIE!!
June 29th, 2011 at 6:10 am
BCZ:
excuse me, but that #8 pick would still be in play and Pouncey, Bryant or even Tebow would have made our passing game better than 23rd last year
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Seriously. Dez Bryant? Thats what you are going to throw at me? The kid spent more than half the year hurt, and has MAJOR character issues already. Go ask Dallas fans about Dez Bryant. Tebow is an impossible argument. He played 3 games. I agree Pouncey probably would have been a better option but the OL coach turned HC that you are mad got fired DIDNT think so. Im certain you would be complaining about paying a Center top 7 money anyways.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:21 am
By the way Rock… I find it admirable that you hung onto that reply until I came in here. LOL
June 29th, 2011 at 6:29 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.IT’S JULY AND THEY R STILL TALKING…OH WELL
June 29th, 2011 at 7:45 am
*tap tap* is this thing on?
June 29th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Sapp was never a great leader in the sense that he was out in front. He needs someone else to be in front of him, although I’m sure he’d think that they’d actually be next to him.
Seymour is such a leader, Sapp would have done much better if he’d had a Seymour around.
In Sapp’s last years he was just a tired vet that had lost a couple steps. That he doesn’t see that is part of his personality/problem.
Would you want your kid to grow up to be a Seymour or a Sapp?
BAN THE TROLLS! or at least make them watch the players in the game for themselves rather than get all their massive ’sports knowledge’ from ESPN.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:02 am
I think the hope is that Rod Woodson can help bring some natural instincts and anticipation to all our DB’s, but that will help MM34 the most.
The talents are there, he doesn’t miss many tackles and isn’t bad on his ball skills when he is in position to make a play.
Just too often, he ends up flat-footed and gets a horrible jump, than he is playing his man from 2 yards behind him.
I like the kid, and love his ST play. Just have some concerns with him being an everydown player and learning on the job, with so much at stake this season for our squad.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Wimbley has also been disappointing in my film reviews.
Seems like a one-trick pony, not only in general, but even with his pass-rushing moves.
He is all about quick off the ball, speed off the edge, and getting really low to the ground and dipping under the tackle.
When it works, it looks freakishly amazing and athletic. It just doesn’t work enough, IMO, and he gets stood up very easily in the run game.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:39 am
LOL at the new voice of the Lakers slapping Skip around on all things Lakers.
Made a great point about why would you believe the Odom rumors? Why would the Lakers play around with draft picks or Derrick Williams? They are saving their chips for the Dwight Howard sweepstakes. If they make trades last week, they take themselves outta the running for Howard.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
We need to stop messing around with Wimbley.
Let him just be an OLB that rushes the passer. Forget letting him put his hand on the ground or putting him in coverage.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Not disappointing???
Cooper Carlisle, Tyvon Branch, Marcel Reece, Satele at times, Zack Miller, Darren McFadden and CJ37.
As much of a liability Huff is at times, he does make some plays to get our D off the field.
You look at the Colts game, where our D struggled the entire game. Well twice, Huff made the plays to get our D off the field.
Once on the INT, an overthrow from Peyton but an athletic catch and good range covered. Also, in the first half, he made a great play in coverage in keeping Tamme from getting the extra 2 yards needed to pick up the first, on a 3rd down completion.
Our D is going to need someone to step up and make one or two great individual plays to get off the field. Whether it is a pass-rusher abusing his man and getting a quick sack on a 3rd down play. A forced fumble or INT, hell even being so quick of the ball to force a holding call to screw up a drive.
We just don’t enough of those plays to get off the field, than we get gashed in the 4th quarter because of how long they have been on the field.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:50 am
You can’t discount the impact all those 3 and outs or 4 and outs have on our defense in the 4th qtr.
This is something that doesn’t get emphasized enough.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I agree, a 3 and out does our defense no favors.
Without an elite QB though, you are going to have some of those if the running game isn’t hitting on all cylinders, so the D will just have to man up sometimes.
Wonder if Hue will take the reins from Cable with the fake punts.
Other than home games against KC (the failed Seabass pitch and the failed fake punt last year against them) they have worked against just about every other team and would like to see maybe 1-2 more a year.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Did I sum up your Glo expectations correctly, JFB?
Did you see that post?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Que numero??
June 29th, 2011 at 9:10 am
You’re point is JC should be throwing the ball down the field more. You understand that his completion % will go down and he may have more turnovers. But you also feel that his TDs and yards will go up as there will certainly be balls that will actually be caught by the WRs.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Sapp was hired to do exactly what Seymour is doing. Team leader experienced winner, show up early, stay late, work hard, set the example and be a leader.
Sapp failed miserably every step of the way in doing what he was brought here to do.
what Sapp was able to do here was help create the “Collect a check” mentality some of our players had at the time.
So to me that is the Warren Sapp legacy as a Raider. Then on top of it the fat turd has the nerve to bash the organization that paid him so well.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:23 am
You understand that his completion % will go down and he may have more turnovers. But you also feel that his TDs and yards will go up as there will certainly be balls that will actually be caught by the WRs.
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I whole-heartedly concur.
Now I don’t want him going Eli Manning-Brett Favre on us and throwing 25 INT’s some years.
But what good is going 7-9 for 43 yards and kicking a FG all the time? The second to last drive he was 2-4 for 7 yards, got a 4 and out and all short passes.
Hell if he would have thrown it down the field the first pass and thrown an INT, it would have been better!! A few yards of field posssession and saved some time.
I counted one pass in the Indy game, thrown into double coverage. It was our longest pass completion of the game, lol.
Taking appropriate risks is what life is all about!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 9:27 am
I think Campbell struggled mightily with trust issues last year. He didnt trust his receivers to make a play, and he didnt trust the line to protect him. I think another year in the system with the same receivers should help some, but he cant be confident about the oline turnover.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am
For instance, Soup threw one 3rd down pass in scoring range, to Brandon Meyers in the flat.
The only way Meyers gets the first down, is if he breaks 3 tackles. He didn’t and we kicked another FG.
At some point, he has to think that throwing a ball to his WR in the end zone and seeing if he can make a play is just as likely as Meyers breaking 3 tackles.
Settling for too many FG’s played a factor in a few losses last year (Indy and AZ especially).
June 29th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Wow same tired ridiculous crap as always. Every team will go 3 and out at times regardless if the running game struggles or not, or if you have an “elite” qb or not. Manning Breez Brady, and all the other blog favorites go 3 and out, the defense gets paid too.
People hold JC to ridiculous standards that no qb could possibly live up to, even the so called “elite” qb in order to find a way to peg him as a failure.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Well I half heartedly concur.
I don’t know that I’ve seen a WR on our team with the ball skills to trust him in double coverage.
I do think that he should throw it to the WR that has single coverage but is not really open. Like we talked about the other day, we need to mix in some back shoulder throws and things of that nature.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:37 am
As a QB, as a team, as a Head Coach, you have to make a choice which you would rather perfer.
High completion probability, low conversion probability (if completed). Or low completion probability and high conversion probability (if completed).
Managing that is the science of the game, and not easy, no doubt.
It’s what seperates the have’s from the have-nots amongst NFL QB’s.
The book isn’t finished on Soup, he still has a few years to write some chapters and make an imprint on the league.
But he won’t do it by choosing to throw the ball 1 yard down the field to the backup TE on 3rd and 7 consistantly.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Problem is our best WR is only 5′8″ and not a threat in goal line situations.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Every team will go 3 and out at times regardless if the running game struggles or not, or if you have an “elite” qb or not.
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Well no crap.
Some teams have more 3 and outs than others. Care to guess where we fell on that list?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I remember that play, lol.
Didn’t those few yards get us into FG range though? Wasn’t it a 56 yds FG?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Back in Vegas huh?
Couldn’t have waited a few months to enjoy a LA summer over a Vegas summer??
June 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I think Campbell struggled mightily with trust issues last year. He didnt trust his receivers to make a play, and he didnt trust the line to protect him.
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Would you?
Put yourself in JCamp’s shoes
June 29th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Branch at FS and MM34 at SS is all good…..we’ve seen enough of Huff and his soft play. Stevie Brown can be 3rd safety. I like the kid. Those 3 play all out on the field and Im sure with the RoBeast as the man middle man of the D people gonna be scared to cross that zone. Imagine the hits we bout see
June 29th, 2011 at 9:42 am
It was 3rd and 6 from the 24.
38 yard FG.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:42 am
MM 34 will be fine, in fact the secondary as a whole will be fine. we have absolute expert coaches at every level of our defense, & they are expert in this scheme that we run specifically. In particular woodson also brings a wealth of knowledge in zone techniques having played in blitzburg all those years at a hall of fame level. this can only bolster the prospects of such physically gifted, and passionate young talents that are littered all throughout the raiders secondary. The secondary will improve leaps and bounds under his leadership. The name alone gets the instant attention of all of our young dbs’. He excelled at saftey and corner and can teach both. Ask his star pupil area 21.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:42 am
No I wouldnt. Which is why I pointed out the he didnt. I dont get the point of your question?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am
We have rookie coaches actually, the furthest things from proven “experts”.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:45 am
152.bcz24 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Problem is our best WR is only 5′8″ and not a threat in goal line situations.
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This is year 3 for Murphy and DHB, and I think they need to be given the opportunity to contribute. They need to have more ball thrown their way since they are not being doubled.
Chaz can’t be hurt every year, can he?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I guaran-goddamn-tee yall MM34 will make plays this year and really knock the dogschit outta someone this year. I’m talking Tatum style. Someone bout to get fked up
June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Every team will go 3 and out at times regardless if the running game struggles or not, or if you have an “elite” qb or not.
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Well no crap.
Some teams have more 3 and outs than others. Care to guess where we fell on that list?
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i would imagine we were not very good in that department, fielding one of the absolute worst pass blocking units in football, and having failed to develop a true number 1 target at receiver.
How ever trying to pin this solely at the feet of JC is more than a reach, its preposterous.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am
“People hold JC to ridiculous standards that no qb could possibly live up to, even the so called “elite” qb in order to find a way to peg him as a failure”
What are these so called ridiculous standards you speak of, that he win 10 games a year?
Anyone can see that JC is not an elite QB and no one is expecting him to be Manning or Brees.
All we have to judge JC on is his past performances. unless you have some other way of judging QB’s that we are not aware of?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:47 am
That’s exactly what my wife told me…I couldn’t wait any longer. I had a job offer that I couldn’t refuse!
Money talks BS walks…you know how that is!
I’ll tell you what Vegas….it’s hotter than HELL out here!
Ain’t nothing like Cali weather…damn I miss it!
But I also missed my sports books….no more online gaming!
June 29th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Yes pinning it solely on Soup is preposterous, no one here is doing that.
It’s just as preposterous to absolve him of any blame as well.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:48 am
I got obvious concerns about the run D….but I like our nasty defensive players….Seymour,Hendu,Houston,the RoBeast, MM34 and Branch.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:49 am
“In particular woodson also brings a wealth of knowledge in zone techniques”
And somehow this will change AL Davis philosophy and we will start playing more zone?
I cant imagine Woodson having that kind of pull as a first year DB coach. Again unless you know something we don’t know, I doubt there will much change in our defensive schemes.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:51 am
You want JC to have better success in Oakland? Sign Chad Johnson and find a vet guard….that will help
June 29th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Seriously. Dez Bryant? Thats what you are going to throw at me? The kid spent more than half the year hurt, and has MAJOR character issues already. Go ask Dallas fans about Dez Bryant. Tebow is an impossible argument. He played 3 games. I agree Pouncey probably would have been a better option but the OL coach turned HC that you are mad got fired DIDNT think so. Im certain you would be complaining about paying a Center top 7 money anyways.
By the way Rock… I find it admirable that you hung onto that reply until I came in here.
*tap tap* is this thing on?
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BCZ,
Sorry man. I come and go throughout the day. 5 minutes before work. two 10 minute breaks and an hour lunch
Yes – Bryant, Tebow & Pouncey would have made a bigger impact on offense than McClain did for the defense
You want McClain & Ford, I’d go for Morrison & Bryant. That’s fine. Pouncey is on his way to being the best Center in the NFL. Who cares what you pay the man? He’s earning it! If McClain completely transformed the Run Defense as a rookie then I wouldn’t be complaining. Jerry Mac wouldn’t either.
A ton of questions surrounding JCamp right now. Is he the guy? Will Hue Jax bench him again and leave us with Boller, Grads or Frye as the starter? Will he be retained after this season? Tebow produced 7 TD’s in his first 3 NFL starts. He threw for over 300 yards in just his 2nd NFL start. Campbell passed for over 300 yards twice all season. He only produced 7 TD’s entering Week 13 @ SD
Bryant produced 6 rec TD’s and 2 pr TD’s as a rookie. 45 catches in 12 games good for 561 yards. That’s behind Miles Austin, Roy Williams & Jason Witten as the 4th receiving option
June 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I agree, a 3 and out does our defense no favors.
Without an elite QB though, you are going to have some of those if the running game isn’t hitting on all cylinders, so the D will just have to man up sometimes.
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JFB, SILVER & CRAck
This reads like a slap at your qb, set against an unrealistic back drop. “elite” qb or not there are always 3 & outs, that is just football.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Our D scheme aint changing that much folks. Chuck B is back….but under him the run defenses werent such a joke….think bout that one
June 29th, 2011 at 9:55 am
159.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:42 am
It was 3rd and 6 from the 24.
38 yard FG.
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Ok, they you’re right in that scenario. Funny because when he actually threw it, it looked like the correct read until I realized it was the slow arsse backup TE that got the ball, lol. Those 3 defenders did converge on him pretty quickly.
Too funny.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:55 am
You want JC to have better success in Oakland? Sign Chad Johnson and find a vet guard….that will help
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BAUCE,
Daniel Loper & Chaz Schilens are your vet G & WR
Sorry pal.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Sports Book…….sure miss those.
They shut down fulltilt, so my only ability to fire these days are at the Indian casino’s.
Baseball season was the best for me. Always bet on the streaks they say…..Giants have won 7 in a row.
Good work, on the work front, lol. Tough out in those parts right now.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Kirk Morrison is a soft fashion loving geek. You want that as your MLB? No thanks. He is another fag that was apart of the losing culture
June 29th, 2011 at 9:59 am
RRS…..did you miss my long posts on the Raider employee who told me who our guards were? Loper wasnt one of them…hell he even laughed when he heard that. Also Chaz aint our vet WR…its DHB lol
June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am
The run defense instantly improves when huff leaves. MM 34 is a solid tackler and have him play ss will give him lost of opportunities to do what he does best, fly up a stick somebody. expect to see a few highlight worthy explosive tackling.
MM 34 play with and aggressive zeal that can give much needed energy to our secondary, that at times has been almost non existent. Love area 21 but do the troops get excited when he tackles or makes play? not really. However i can clearly remember mm 34 violently attacking the offense and his team mates being fired up & afterward.
I can live with a few growing pains in the secondary. we are not just a safety away from a superbowl. even if our secondary drops off a bit, we will still be talented enough in other areas on this team to make the play offs. But when our young guys do get it they will be one of the best secondaries in football.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am
if Huff leaves I think there is a much better chance that DVD or Chekwa move to FS than MM34 starting at SS. IF we lose Huff I think we should (try) Branch at FS, but brink in Melvin Bullett to play SS
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BCZ,
we’re not going to touch any free agent DB’s. go ahead and etch that in stone brother
If Huff leaves (which is likely) Mitch & Branch are your starting safeties. Eugene & Brown are scrubs
DVD & Chekwa replace Asomugha & Joe Porter. Perhaps we’ll cut Stevie Brown (again) and place him on the practice squad (again) if Chekwa gets to compete at FS. DVD doesn’t have the build of a safety. He’d get murdered out there
June 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Chaz will be hurt again and not active week 1…..in Dungver we bout to see DHB,Murphy and Ford if they stick with this plan. Yikes
June 29th, 2011 at 10:02 am
164.Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I guaran-goddamn-tee yall MM34 will make plays this year and really knock the dogschit outta someone this year. I’m talking Tatum style. Someone bout to get fked up
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I dunno.
I’m still waiting to see his first big hit as a Raider.
Or SS’s are not put in a position to make the hits you’re referring to. He is generally going to be in man coverage on a TE or RB as oppossed to sitting back waiting on someone to come into his zone.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:03 am
did you miss my long posts on the Raider employee who told me who our guards were? Loper wasnt one of them…hell he even laughed when he heard that.
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Who else could it be?
Satele & Carlisle?
Wiz & Campbell?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:04 am
DVD at safety? Lol yeah and the Matrix wasnt ripped off from the original writer Sophia Stewart
June 29th, 2011 at 10:06 am
RRS…..right guard is Bruce Campbell…Left guard is cooper carlisle…..yes cooper carlisle….bad plan I say
June 29th, 2011 at 10:06 am
However i can clearly remember mm 34 violently attacking the offense and his team mates being fired up & afterward.
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violently attacking?
Really? I don’t recall that.
He did make several sure tackles after someone caught a ball on him though. And he had his fair share of tackles that were short of the first down marker.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Jhill do you not see how he tackles through players? Its only a matter of time before someone catches the blues
June 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I want to see Chaz, DHB, and Ford as our top 3 WRs in Dungver.
Chaz is going to be ready!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Ford had 25 catches 470yards 2 TDs, 10 carries 155 yards 2 TDs and 3 KR TDs ALL in the second half of the season. You cant tell me that you think our passing offense or qb is better than Dallas and Romo either. So I say Ford and Bryant statistically are a wash, and we got Ford in the 4th, not at 8 overall like you propose.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Big BAUCE…..what up mayne?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:11 am
IMO i see much better football instincts from Branch and MM34 compared to Huff overall
June 29th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Sup Ray?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Jhill you smoking angel dust again? DHB should never start over Murphy
June 29th, 2011 at 10:15 am
DVD wasnt drafted to play safety. Brown and Missle mike were rumored to be on the bubble last year, im wondering how much of that had to do with marshall and cable.
marshall and Cable were terrible, they stunted the growth of players that have excellent talent. MM 34, ware, come to mind off the top of my head. They thought that 9-10 wins would keep their job, they also thought they knew talent better than Davis.
When it was clear that this team was not going to the post season they should have pulled the plug on guys like huff & branch ( who was injured), and cj. Or at the very least find ways to get the youth more snaps. You use that time to develop your youth, as opposed to playing out the string trying to protect what is already a god awful record.
Come to find out Davis agrees with me, thus cable & Marshall were not retained.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:15 am
B,
What are our SSs asked to do?
You’ve been talking about Mitchell laying someout in pass coverage. Our secondary being feared.
I just don’t think he will be in a position to deliver those hits. He is a very sure tackler and maybe if we allowed him to support in some sort of zone, I could see it. But most of the time he’s going to be tackling someone from behind, not in front.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:17 am
And Vegas Raider…..i take much issue with you claiming JC wasnt clutch against SD. Did you not see 2 long td drives…one to take lead for good? How about the second game when we were up 21-13 with sD having momentum and JC FAKING OUT THE CAMERA TO THROW A DEEP PASS TO murphy which eventually netted a dmac TD? that’s clutch as fk
June 29th, 2011 at 10:18 am
“Come to find out Davis agrees with me, thus cable & Marshall were not retained.”
Good to know that Al Davis checks with Blog retards first before making coaching moves!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
I think Mitchell would make a better OLB than SS… call me crazy if you want.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Jhill….ever seen George Atkinson play?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
I do think one of these corners is going to play FS.
I think it will be Ware or the kid from OSU.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Mistic i like Ware at CB…..they benched him after pitt game which was dumb
June 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am
197.Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:17 am
And Vegas Raider…..i take much issue with you claiming JC wasnt clutch against SD. Did you not see 2 long td drives…one to take lead for good? How about the second game when we were up 21-13 with sD having momentum and JC FAKING OUT THE CAMERA TO THROW A DEEP PASS TO murphy which eventually netted a dmac TD? that’s clutch as fk
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We embarassed SD in the game from top to bottom. Held them to under 40 yards rushing, killed Rivers all day long, embarrassed their #1 ranked defense both on the ground and through the air. That even trumps the 59 point dismantling of the Broncos as my favorite game of the year
June 29th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Bcz….very crazy you are
June 29th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Ware and McFadden both have the opportunity to be pretty good corners I think. Ware didnt get much of a chance, and Wheezy was thrown to the wolves in the Miami game. THAT was embarassing.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Bcz…u remembering the Raiders outplaying the chargers a few times and ended up in a Loss? 2006 ring a bell? Had Sd stopped us when we were up 21-13 we were in much trouble
June 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
199.bcz24 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
I think Mitchell would make a better OLB than SS… call me crazy if you want.
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You’re crazy!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:18 am
“Come to find out Davis agrees with me, thus cable & Marshall were not retained.”
Good to know that Al Davis checks with Blog retards first before making coaching moves!
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That is it? Thats how you refute my case? ….. Oh wait you havent refuted my case, or made a counter argument, or posted anything on this blog of any value your entire miserable life?
Your takes are painfully weak, mainly because you never have one. your like a bum at a soup kitchen bra…
you bring nothing to the table
June 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I like our young CBs….fugg numbdi
June 29th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Huff and Numbdi<—two soft asses that need to not be on this defense
June 29th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Didn’t see Atkinson play, that I can recall.
Didn’t really see too many Raider games before they came to LA.
Didn’t have DirecTV back then, lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Jhill u cant call anyone crazy….you want DHB to start lol
June 29th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Has anyone here ever hiked Half Dome?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am
“That is it? Thats how you refute my case? ”
Your case is full of non factual retarded ramblings and when you talk enough you seem to dispute your own case.
I was simply pointing out the obvious…..that you are so full of yourself that you think your little blog opinions have some kind of pull on what the Raider organization actually does. Or that you are so brilliant that you and Al Davis think exactly alike.
Pretty simple stuff there Einstein.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Lol I mean never seen old games? Footage? U outta do that so you can up your Raider acumen. Before LA era was best era wwithout Hollywood’s stench overunning
June 29th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Brien, you’ve hiked half dome, haven’t you?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You’re probably right B.
Film study on some of those old games would probably be pretty fun.
Not sure where to get the old “film” though, lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Naw MR….NOT INTO HIKING
June 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am
That’s too bad, Brien. I’m thinking about doing half dome next summer. Just wanted to know if anyone here has done it.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Well nfl net studios in LA….make it happen
June 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am
220.Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Well nfl net studios in LA….make it happen
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?????
June 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am
That’s right Bauce….the NFL is already in L.A.!! Lol..
June 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Oh yeah Jhill…never commented on the “Henny dance and give em a hug they know whats up” thing from last week….i was dying rolling. Just always had a feeling you were a playa at one time and you was out runnin. It just comes out in your posts. I got a college patna who just the same way
June 29th, 2011 at 10:41 am
MR….why too bad? Im not into that shhht
June 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Huff may have played his hardest due to last year being a ‘contract’ year. But Sapp is a sour punk arse biotch who constantly rips the Silver & Black at any chance he gets… His opinions mean nothing just like his playing and lack-of-veteran-leadership meant nothing to Oakland… He basically STOLE Al’s millions then goes and flaps his fat jaws… textbook DOUCHE!! He wreaks of vinegar!!
Yeah Warren, you got your ring, you got your millions… Now STFU!!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Lol ray….NFl is there….they better not bring a team there unless its the Rams imo. Those other teams they mentioned no one would care about. Rams were there damn near 50 years
June 29th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Raiderinpa lol
June 29th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Whew…issues issues issues at work…check in later…
June 29th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Just always had a feeling you were a playa at one time and you was out runnin. It just comes out in your posts.
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We’ve all had our 15 minutes of fame, lol.
The Henny dance is real spit though. Been the #1 option since, well, I started drinking Henny, lol.
I got major respect for you groover cats though. I’m the cat holding his drink in the air pumping you up, lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I’d love to go LA for a weekend in november/december of 2014 to watch sports at those two venues off Olympic and Figeroua…..watch Warriors beat Lakers ass Friday on ESPN at Staples and then Raider whoop Rams ass at Farmer’s Field. Then hit up LA live and see some bz action
June 29th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Hwnrdr<—-real Raider
June 29th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Hey Brian the Genital, can you get down to Marina Del Rey on Fri to work my Reggae Party Cruise on Fri? One of my servants canceled and I need a replacement quick to serve shrimp cocktails and run the PARTYDUDE 8000.
Since it’s last minute, I’ll bump up your pay to $35 for the night plus a $10 bonus for shining the anchor after we dock.
I might get a Simply Red cover band to jam on the main deck between DJ sets, so you’ll get to listen to some free live jams as well.
Hurry Brian before I make give your grandpa Krappy the same offer!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Jhill….Bauce does the OG two step now mainly. Best dance move is sit near end of bar where the bathrooms are…..Bzies gotta see your faace. Its actually an easy pull. use to do it at Temple Bar in LA alot lol
June 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Beecham, have you ever hiked half dome? Ever take your ladies and the party3000 machine up to half dome, cranking some Whitesnake , “Is this love?”.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Lol MR…you actually think Beecher even knows whaat hiking is? Amazing
June 29th, 2011 at 10:55 am
The only hiking I do is from Lot D to the gates and then back after the game…
June 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Hwnrdr….include a Raider win and I’ll yell THATS RIGHT!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Hiking is for queers.
We spent most of January snorkeling in the infinity pool at the 4 Seasons Maui. The Mai Tais at the pool bar are totally sweet and get you hella wasted.
Dudes I just heard back from the Simply Red cover band manager who confirmed them for Friday night! My ladies and I are headed down to the jacuzzi to celebrate before we limo it over to Islands for a round of Big Wave burgs.
CAN’T FIGHT THE FLAVOR OF A PRINGLE
June 29th, 2011 at 11:01 am
My ladies and I are headed down to the jacuzzi to celebrate
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
June 29th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Jhill….u see Beecher? Now thats a guy who hasnt even had 15 seconds of fame
June 29th, 2011 at 11:08 am
“I guess Im just a product of that good ole mob, itchin to shoot but im ready for a good ole squab”
June 29th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Bauce outro…….
June 29th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Yo Jhill where’s that puss AIG? Let me guess, he’s “pretending” to have a lame handicap to expose your game again?
Brah that guy is such a tool and the fact he’s Asian is just icing on the cake. Freakin Short Round.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Let me guess, he’s “pretending” to have a lame handicap to expose your game again?
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I think he’s pretending to be banned for all that tough chatting he was doing.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:18 am
A simple yes or no on the half dome question would have sufficed, guys. I don’t think I needed to be told I’m a gay wuss from the suburbs just for asking. Thank you very much.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
June 29th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Master Beeecham
I know the singer for the Simply Red cover band…yes he is a Ginger.
The guy can wail and I think you will be impressed with their band.
Keep the ladies away from the drummer he will eat all your food while scooping up your ladies.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:22 am
James Early Ray Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:23 am
You know Armond and B made good points about seeing guys like Manning and Brady play in person.
I’m going to have to get on board.
J Hill is going to have to FINALLY get his arsse up the road and come see the Raiders play in Oakland. Brady againt a good Oakland team should be a pleasure to see live.
Let me pull up the schedule and see if any other greats are coming to Oakland.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:35 am
LOL
I look at the schedule and I see a 3-1 start. Even if we start 2-2 I see a 3 game win streak headed into the bye week.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:37 am
My dream is to get old Krappy on one of my party boats and watch the old fool dance himself right into the Pacific.
He’ll still be doing the Curly Shuffle when he hits the the bottom.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Beech, Kell will be doing the dougie while you and your coke whores are doing the hustle.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Last 5 games of the season are going to be a tough stretch.
Detroit and GB are going to be tough to beat.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am
JHill, every fan of every team in the league is looking at their schedule and seeing a 3-1 start.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Master Beeecham Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:37 am
My dream is to get old Krappy on one of my party boats and watch the old fool dance himself right into the Pacific.
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Where, at Arbys Tahiti table?
June 29th, 2011 at 11:48 am
J Hill Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Last 5 games of the season are going to be a tough stretch.
Detroit and GB are going to be tough to beat.
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Is that what Madden Video says?
June 29th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Madden Retard instead of sulking another day away on the blog, why don’t you sublease that awesome apt. of yours and move down to Marina Del Rey?
I’ll give you a fresh start and opportunity to work one my Party Boats. I can always use eager, respectful shrimp cocktail servants with hiking experience.
GET UP ON THIS
June 29th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Hey Krappy – just wake up from your mid morning snooze?
And what the heck is “Arbys Tahiti table”? Still pretty groggy, I guess. Silly old goat!
June 29th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Raider,
So are you saying that you don’t think we can beat Denver and Buffalo?
And Marc Sanchez?
June 29th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Kell,
What is Madden Video?
June 29th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
“Where, at Arbys Tahiti table?”
“Is that what Madden Video says?”
Dudes, Krappy is fading fast! The old goat probably just overdosed on Lean Cuisines and needs immediate medical attention!
Or a sponge bath, diaper change and his allowance from wifey and her bowl cut.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I think Mitchell would make a better OLB than SS
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BCZ,
Raiders brass compared him to Jack Tatum, not Darnell Bing!
June 29th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Ware at safety = Ray Buchanon
Print That
June 29th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Ford had 25 catches 470yards 2 TDs, 10 carries 155 yards 2 TDs and 3 KR TDs ALL in the second half of the season. You cant tell me that you think our passing offense or qb is better than Dallas and Romo either. So I say Ford and Bryant statistically are a wash, and we got Ford in the 4th, not at 8 overall like you propose.
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BCZ,
Ford & Bryant = a wash? wow
OK. Being a Raider homer and hating the Cowpokes I’ll give you that one today. When the season starts up we may have to revisit this
Nice to see that theres no debating Pouncey & Tebow would have been better draft selections than McClain @ 8 …
June 29th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
oh snap!
no Miami Heat players attended Chris Bosh’s Las Vegas bachelor party. – PBT
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
the Lakers have signed forward Antoine Walker
thoughts?
June 29th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Nice to see that theres no debating Pouncey & Tebow would have been better draft selections than McClain @ 8 …
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Tebow????
Never.
I would not have had a problem with Pouncey at 8. Heck I wanted Mack the year before.
But this McClain bashing is ridiculous. And yes, comparing him to Morrison is in fact bashing.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Tebow????
Never.
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Jhill,
Please explain
June 29th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I would not have had a problem with Pouncey at 8. Heck I wanted Mack the year before
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Mack over DHB?
expect a call from Priest TJ. you know nothing about football.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
266.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
the Lakers have signed forward Antoine Walker
thoughts?
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Thoughts? Antoine Walker? LMFAO!!!! That is my thought RR. This guy is beyond washed up. He was in Europe, bankrupted just like his game! LMFAO twice!!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
what’s up CJ Legend !?!?
June 29th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
270.CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
266.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
the Lakers have signed forward Antoine Walker
thoughts?
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Thoughts? Antoine Walker? LMFAO!!!! That is my thought RR. This guy is beyond washed up. He was in Europe, bankrupted just like his game! LMFAO twice!!!!
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RR do you mean this Antoine Walker? You have to be joking. LMFAO, three times!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6713850
June 29th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Terrell Owens is recovering from left knee surgery and plans to be ready to play when the NFL season starts, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said Tuesday.
Rosenhaus confirmed in an interview with ESPN that the star wide receiver tore his anterior cruciate ligament and had surgery in early April. However, Rosenhaus said, his client “will be playing at the start of the NFL season.”
Rosenhaus called speculation that Owens, 37, was considering retirement “nonsense” and said the 15-year veteran is doing “fantastic” and could be recovered as early as August. Sources familiar with the injury told ESPN on Sunday night that Owens wouldn’t return until mid- to late November at the earliest.
Rosenhaus said Dr. James Andrews performed the surgery to the same knee in which Owens tore his meniscus late last year.
“The old injury has been repaired,” Rosenhaus said. “He is many months into recovery and doing fantastic. No predictions on training camp, but he comes back fast from injuries. I won’t rule him out of anything. He will be a starting receiver for someone this year.”
Rosenhaus declined to say how the latest injury occurred, although one source told ESPN on Sunday night that it happened while Owens was taping a segment for his VH1 reality show, and another source said the receiver injured himself during personal workouts.
As for Owens mulling retirement, Rosenhaus said “all the retirement talk is nonsense. There’s been no discussion about that, and this injury is not a big deal.”
Two of Owens’ former teammates also said the star wide receiver plans to return. Both players spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Tuesday because Owens hasn’t publicly discussed the surgery.
Owens had 72 catches for 983 yards and nine touchdowns last season for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was placed on season-ending injured reserve Dec. 21, one day after surgery for his torn meniscus.
NFL.com
June 29th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
You are what’s up RR no trade talk is killing me. This lock out is keeping me depressed.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RR would you take TO or do you think one WR with knee and ankle problems like Chaz is enough for one team?
June 29th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
do you mean this Antoine Walker?
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Yup!
They are also said to be interested in Brian Cardinal & Peja Stojakovic
June 29th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
What is there to explain RRS.
I don’t think Tebow is a good NFL QB. And certainly not someone you take with the 8th pick in the draft.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
would you take TO or do you think one WR with knee and ankle problems like Chaz is enough for one team?
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CJL,
I’ll take Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress or T.J. Housh
Chaz Schilens is an injury settlement waiting to happen …
Until/Unless we see something from Moore or Ausberry that eliminates the need for a possession receiver with sure hands who can move the chains. Right now I think it’s too early to even call them upgrades over JLH & Lil Nicky
June 29th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Yup!
They are also said to be interested in Brian Cardinal & Peja Stojakovic
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LOL, yeah right.
They really need to get older and slower.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
I don’t think Tebow is a good NFL QB. And certainly not someone you take with the 8th pick in the draft.
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If Tebow isn’t any good, what do you call Jason Campbell? See comment #172
June 29th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
the Miami Heat are going to replace Jamaal Magloire & Mike Bibby with Yao Ming & Allen Iverson
low risk / high reward. JUST DO IT
June 29th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
GoodOle00 Since I’m such a blowhard you might want to add Hue Jackson to the blowhard list since he virtually agree with almost everything I’ve been saying about Branch in a recent interview. So if I don’t know what I’m talking about neither does he.
It’s very rare when FS will cover the slot it’s normally a nickle corner but I digress. Branch has skills for the position beyond covering man. He has great range (when I say range it means to play over the top of a corner) it’s double coverage. He explodes on WR’s and is very physical and agressive. I don’t mind a couple of hard bites by someone with his makeup speed. He’ll get to where his natural instincts take over the same as Huff did and then he can bait the QB. In fact I think Branch has the best skills for FS we’ve had in some 20 years or more.
Uh! like Hue said he plays the game the wya the game should be played. The way I like my FS to play………..thanks for listening!
June 29th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I’d take a flyer on Burress.
No to Housh and TO and his bad knee. No was TO is ready to go in time to start the season.
Chaz is going to be healthy though. He can’t possibly be that jinxed.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
A ton of questions surrounding JCamp right now. Is he the guy? Will Hue Jax bench him again and leave us with Boller, Grads or Frye as the starter? Will he be retained after this season? Tebow produced 7 TD’s in his first 3 NFL starts. He threw for over 300 yards in just his 2nd NFL start. Campbell passed for over 300 yards twice all season. He only produced 7 TD’s entering Week 13 @ SD
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Mularkey.
Not a Tebow fan. I really hope he starts for Denver. That is a big part of me predicting we will sweep them.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Since I’m such a blowhard you might want to add Hue Jackson to the blowhard list since he virtually agree with almost everything I’ve been saying about Branch in a recent interview. So if I don’t know what I’m talking about neither does he.
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Priest TJ = Hue Jackson?
your playcalling sucks!
June 29th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
if warren sapp had an ounce of man in him he would have TRIED to be like Richard Seymour is today. Sapp was washed up when he got to Oak town and played like it. out of shape, undisciplined, heartless, lacking work ethic (lacking ethic all together), and looking for his last big paychecks all describe his time in oakland. of course he is going to say nothing but bad things about the Raiders….he couldn’t live up to the Raider tradition of playing your ass off no matter what. Huff had close to a hundred tackles last year. how many did sapp have during his tenure in Oakland? I don’t know and I don’t care because he did such a weak job while there.
I remember the days he was at the U just doing his thing and pretty much being a badass. He was someone any kid playing d-line would look up to. now, all he has left is his words. words of hate towards the Raiders. just like the other no-shows that made their pit stops in Oakland to take their money and run. notably d hall and j walker. look what happened to d hall while he was here. he couldn’t cover a high schooler in man-to-man coverage. he sucked so bad he was cut half way thru the season.
that is what we should have done with sapp’s lazy behind. Sapp can talk all he wants. Seymour is 10 times the man old warren will ever be. so keep running your trap sapp, it’s all you got left. thanks for the no-show years in Oakland. we will all remember what you did….and most importantly what you didn’t do.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Mularkey.
Not a Tebow fan. I really hope he starts for Denver. That is a big part of me predicting we will sweep them.
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Jhill,
what part of what I posted wasn’t true?
June 29th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RRS…teblow at 8? come on man
June 29th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Glad Al didnt want that lisping sports version of Rock Hudson at qb
June 29th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
what part of what I posted wasn’t true?
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nuclear physics can prove that an elephant can hang suspended from a cliff with his tail tied to a branch, but I think common sense would tell us differnt.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
RRS…ima give u something here and think about it….it sums up Kirk Morrison
June 29th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Yesterday is the East right around corner from Coliseum….i spoke with Marshawn Lynch…yes Marshawn Lynch…he always around the town….anyhow he was cool then I suddenly remembered how he shook Kirk out his drawlz on a crucial 3rd and 8 when we were up 16-7. If Kirk made that tackle bills punt and we may have won that game. Kirk did the crap all the time
June 29th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Cut Condo!
Don’t bother responding.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
oh man ive been waiting for someone to call out sorry ass m-huff. its just to bad it was another piece of schyt who did it. cant stand either one of them cause they both sucked while in oakland, atleast that fat pig had an excuse that he was old and washed up. huff on the other just plain sucs and way to stupid to be back there. f both of them.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
And it hurts worse cuz Kirk from Oakland but he just couldnt get it done. Always saw rbs cutback and ace that guy repeatedly
June 29th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Big Pep<—–agreed
June 29th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I love when people say that getting Mitchell on the field will help this defense, when the guy was on the field ALL THE TIME the last quarter of the season, and didn’t help anything.
Maybe he got his lumps out, is working diligently and is going to come in and break necks next year. I sure and the hell hope so, and it would be an awesome payback to the ESPN draft crew.
But to think that MM34 is going to massively evolve from where he was in the Colts game, when he was on the field for 95% of the snaps and was schooled repeatedly, you might as well just think Bruce Gradkowski is going to turn it around, same with Nick Miller and Mario Henderson.
All three of those guys, as well as “Missile Mike”, have a looooooooong ways to go, just to become servicable and decent.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Huff was soft….im willing bet anyone in huff’s tenure in oakland he has been a main cog in giving up at least 15 tds….and Im being generous…i think more like 20 but safe bet is 15 total. That’s too much
June 29th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Missile Mike reminds me of Scud Stu…
June 29th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
266.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
the Lakers have signed forward Antoine Walker
thoughts?
Wait…from Boston….the guy that was with paul pierce?
June 29th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Raiders were 3-0 in Denver, and 4-1 overall against the Donks with Cable as the HC.
Not much wiggle room there for Hue. He HAS TO WIN in Denver to start the season.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Oh wow MM34 got schooled by a Peyton Manning led offense….send him to the Arena League now lol
June 29th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I just hope that this defense can compete without Nnamdi and Huff…
June 29th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
then I suddenly remembered how he shook Kirk out his drawlz on a crucial 3rd and 8 when we were up 16-7. If Kirk made that tackle bills punt and we may have won that game.
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Absolutely pathetic play that was.
OF COURSE we win the game if he makes that tackle. Heck, we had them pinned back inside their 20.
That play right there was the turning point in my feelings toward Morrison. There was actually a couple more plays he missed on that same drive.
PHUGGGGG that pizzzzddddd me off.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
captain kirk was one of my favorite players, he might have played out of position and was burned alot. but atleast he wasnt a lazy sac of schyt. who said “id take a hard worker over a gifted lazy schyt anyday”
June 29th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
VEGAS….last quarter of season was jax,denver,indy and kc…….you saw two of those games….how bout watching the denver and kc games again before saying that…….alright? go get em sport….and u did admit he made a good int in jax so the nothing stuff is….well ya know
June 29th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
But Kirk can be my WLB…no problem
June 29th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Bauce Rules, were on the same page today:)
June 29th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Hue has to win week 1 no matter the opponent…..0-1 is not cool
June 29th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Pep….yup we are….seems u got some pep in your step….how goes it man?
June 29th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I feel way more confident with Morrison-RoBeast-Wimbley as my LB starting unit….Groves sucks and Brown sucks. Trevor Scott is a DE
June 29th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Depending on how and what the new cba fully is……im still for the Osi trade. We would have the premier Dline in the AFC imo….the guy is 12 sacks a year
June 29th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Scott best longsnap too or C-loc.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
but atleast he wasnt a lazy sac of schyt. who said “id take a hard worker over a gifted lazy schyt anyday”
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So you’re a DHB fan?
June 29th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
307.Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
But Kirk can be my WLB…no problem
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Wimbley should be playing next to ShoNasty.
No to Morrison, get a real SLB to play with McClain and Wimbley.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Let Warren Sapp bash Huff. If anyone actually listens to what Sapp has to say (which is doubtful), it will only make Huff less attractive to other suitors and easier to resign.
Which makes me want to say something to Warren Sapp that Raider fans have almost NEVER had reason to say to Warren Sapp: “Thank you.”
June 29th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
yeah i like DHB, but kirk wasnt a 7th overall pick so i think he needs to step up or get out.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
VSLC loc to da death, I wear it on my chest…
June 29th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
so i think he needs to step up or get out.
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DHB caught all balls thrown his way in Indy. Dropped the one pass he was thrown in KC.
How do we know what we have if the guy gets one ball thrown his way?
June 29th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
i dont know, i like the dude im really rooting for him to be a true number 1 wideout. but ford sure looked good and again ford is another player who wasnt 7th overall player selected.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
I’m past the hype of the #7 overall pick. We all know that was a bit high for the kid. I don’t see any pro bowls or things like that. But I do think the guy can give 4 or 5 catches a game and be a threat to get in the end zone with some good YAC opportunities.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Yesterday is the East right around corner from Coliseum….i spoke with Marshawn Lynch…yes Marshawn Lynch…he always around the town….anyhow he was cool then I suddenly remembered how he shook Kirk out his drawlz on a crucial 3rd and 8 when we were up 16-7. If Kirk made that tackle bills punt and we may have won that game. Kirk did the crap all the time
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I’ll never forget that play as long as I live. The sideline was his friend and that non-athlete couldn’t even keep his feet. Just slow him up for a second so Kalimba Edwards could get there. Morrison was a scrub, plain and simple. That should have been a signature win for Jamarcus. He threw that laser slant to JLH for the 84-yd TD on 3rd down in a hostile environment. It was obvious how clutch he was on that play. Too bad he never played with a defense worth a damn. That game also sealed Kiffin’s fate. He was the right coach for this team in my opinion.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
BCZ, Mm34 at oslb isn’t that crazy, but only if he can get of blocks. If not he equals Thomas Howard. Howard is good in pass coverage, and I would like to see him in on more downs. More hybrid nickel packages with both on the field. Swarming tweener D. Yes I know this will probably never happen. I play mm as strong side lb behind Henderson and Huston with big Rich and Shownasty anchoring the other side. T Howard at mlb, Wimbley lb ,Aso fs, Route and CJ cb, and Huff third cb. McClain is only in on my 46 run stuffing D. Works like a m fer on Madden, so I can see where you get the idea.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
DHB needs to have more passes thrown his way, until anything other than failure is no longer an option.
I think Bruce helped his growth last year, by throwing him 12 passes in the AZ game.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
That Buffalo game was a disaster.
Dude getting thrown out for the punch in the end zone was a cripler, and we made Trent Edwards look like Joe Montana.
Jamarcus had the nice throw to JLH, but he did get the ball back twice after that, and didn’t get a first down on either drive.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
So went to the some Italian chain restaurant for lunch here in Hell Paso, and the waitress was mad flirting.
I started throwing out some generic happy-hour “questions” and when I left she said, “Maybe we will see you later for happy hour??” with the F Me look.
You know ‘ol dirt dog will be making it back that way for happy hour before heading back to the Hamptonn.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I suddenly remembered how he shook Kirk out his drawlz on a crucial 3rd and 8 when we were up 16-7. If Kirk made that tackle bills punt and we may have won that game.
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BAUCE,
you got 1 play in 5 years? Marshawn Lynch ran through like 5 Saints defenders for a 50+ TD last year when the Seachickens came to town
are all those dudes scrubs?
What if the only play I remembered about Jacoby Ford was the fumble against the Jags that cost us the game and possibly the playoffs?
June 29th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
What happened to AIG???
Have seen a few good semi-pro’s lose it for a minute, but is usually involving KoolKell, Richochet or especially MR.
But J Wiggity breaking a fellow-semi?? Unheard of!!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
So went to the some Italian chain restaurant for lunch here in Hell Paso, and the waitress was mad flirting.
I started throwing out some generic happy-hour “questions” and when I left she said, “Maybe we will see you later for happy hour??” with the F Me look.
You know ‘ol dirt dog will be making it back that way for happy hour before heading back to the Hamptonn.
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Dirtbag!
June 29th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Speaking of losing it, JFB, thank you for opening up to us a few days ago as to why you don’t like black people.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Kell, I don’t think JFB noticed the waitresses adam’s apple. Or maybe he did…
June 29th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
LOL…..I LOVE black girls, does that count???
But not those Notre Dame type girls, like Al Davis.
I would rather she be from Hamptonn Virginia than from the Hamptons.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
What happened to AIG???
Have seen a few good semi-pro’s lose it for a minute, but is usually involving KoolKell, Richochet or especially MR.
But J Wiggity breaking a fellow-semi?? Unheard of!!!!
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AIG will be back. He’s just waiting for the Jason Campbell hype to die down
I just compared him to Tim Tebow and it wasn’t pretty
AIG (if you’re reading this) feel free to join the party!
June 29th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I was really hoping that horseface Elway would trade Tebow on draft day, but instead they’re gonna trade Orton to Minny or Arizona (unless AZ accepts to Kolb 4 DRC trade)
June 29th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Campbell is a lot like Tebow. They’re both overachieving fetuses.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Debo,
who is gonna sign JaMarcus Russell this season?
and when?
I’m sure he’ll be the hottest FA on the market, right?
Rumors are he’s slimmed down to 265 and being mentored by Jon Gruden & Marc Trestman
June 29th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I am FB friends with AIG, so if I don’t hear from him in a week or so I will chase him down.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Host: “The first three games of the season for the Oakland Raiders – all three foes in the division – right now, who gives the Raiders the best chance to win those games, Garcia or Russell?”
Gruden: “I think they gotta go with JaMarcus Russell. He’s the No. 1 pick in the draft. They’ve added Paul Hackett who I think is an outstanding coach. He’s a tremendous quarterbacks coach. No one talks about the addition of Paul Hackett. I think he’s going to really reach out and help JaMarcus Russell. But they’ve got a lot invested in him. This is only his third season. This is the time where JaMarcus Russell has to explode onto the scene. Hopefully [Darren] McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, some of his young support system, can help him, because he does have great ability throwing the football.”
06/02/09 on “The SIRIUS Blitz” on SIRIUS NFL Radio
June 29th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Confucius say:
…..If John Elway trade to Raiders go through, John Elway turn out to be hall of fame Yankee outfielder.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Jamarcus Russell got to work with Tom Martinez, Gregg Knapp and Paul Hackett.
Maybe the best trio any young QB EVER got to work with in his first few years.
Imagine how much of a wreck he would have been if he got Jim Zorn and Mike Tice for a few years, lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Russell did not get to work with Tom Martinez, Greg Knapp, and Paul Hackett. Russell got to work with Al Davis. Those 3 guys had to spend most of their time reeducating Russell to forget everything Al had told him. None of them had enough time to succeed in doing so.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
No one wanted Jamarcus Russell to succeed more than Al Davis.
That, to date, may be the biggest blemish on the Al Davis resume.
The Jamarcus Russell era. It will be meet with a resounding round of laughter every time it is brought up for the next 30 years, if not more.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Of course, if Russell worked with JON GRUDEN, Lombardi + MVP, right?
And Elway would have nixed a trade to the dynasty era Raiders, would he?
I’ll give you credit for this, “Confucius”. Your conspiracy theory stuff would sound better as a cookie fortune.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
No one wanted Jamarcus Russell to succeed more than Al Davis.
That, to date, may be the biggest blemish on the Al Davis resume.
The Jamarcus Russell era. It will be meet with a resounding round of laughter every time it is brought up for the next 30 years, if not more.
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I think that’s an overstatement.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What else has been more humiliating to Al Davis than Jamarcus Russell?
Other than Raider Nation, people don’t remember the Bugel 4-12 disaster, or even the 2-14 year right before Jamarcus.
But they remember ‘ol fur coats blinging his way into the all-time bust lists, and Al Davis will forever be mocked for that pick, even if he goes and wins two more SB befor he dies.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
who is gonna sign JaMarcus Russell this season?
and when?
I’m sure he’ll be the hottest FA on the market, right?
Rumors are he’s slimmed down to 265 and being mentored by Jon Gruden & Marc Trestman
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Lol RRS got jokes!
He’s hot on the market all right! The local convenient store in his hometown is doing well in Mad Dog 20/20 sales.
Todd Marinovich must be glad this guy was drafted.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Davy, can you honestly picture John Elway playing for Al Davis? The Raiders were in the last days of their dynasty when Elway came into the league. Imagine Elway staying mum throughout all of that drama in the late ’80s. Imagine Davis bringing in Shanahan, finally an HC to John’s liking, only to fire him a year later.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
June 25th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
My motto Armond, is that I love life so much you might as well live two of them.
And I’m keeping you black males away from my girl. Only recently did she finally tell me a non-black dude was hot, every other time it was “Ohhh….Dwyane Wade….Oh….Blair Underwood…..Ohhh…..Stringer Bell.”
I always worry one day I am going to come home and see Tyrone hoping out the window.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What else has been more humiliating to Al Davis than Jamarcus Russell?
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Jon Gruden kicking his ass in the Super Bowl.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
My client, Doug Tucker, Los Alamos county fire-chief is becoming a fixture in the National News.
Why isn’t BO out here in New Mexico declaring the state of emergency and assuring people there isn’t going to be some type of nuclear explosion?
I’m sure if his buddy Richardson was still governor and not Susanna Martinez, he would have been here already.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Can I honestly picture Elway playing for Oakland in 1983? Elway rejected the Colts because they were a loser in 1983. The Raiders won the SB in 1983. Their record from 84-87 was 31-17. It pains me to say this about a Bronco, but Elway to the Raiders in 1983 would have been a HUGE success, and only a hater like you would think otherwise.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Bros – I just got back from Islands, me and the ladies finished celebrating the signing of the Simply Red cover band for the Friday night Reggae Party Boat cruise with a few rounds of Big Wave burgers.
And I just got my burp on.
Anyway, we’re going to hit the Ritz bar Jer Ne for some sliders and dirty martinis. Any of you losers see AIG aka Short Round trolling around?
That kook and his fake golf handicap need a good old fashioned blog spanking.
OLD SCHOOL SCHWIZZLE
June 29th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Oh BS
June 29th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Last 5 games of the season are going to be a tough stretch.
Detroit and GB are going to be tough to beat.
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No doubt!
Detroit can put up some points. Even tho their db’s are terrible, that D line with Suh, Nick Fairly and Vanden Bosch is going to be one of the better lines in the league.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Anyways, off to Happy Hour!!!
Hasta luego
June 29th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
O-bama isn’t in New Mexico because he’s probably hoping it will burn. Who can blame him?
June 29th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
J Hill Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
307.Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
But Kirk can be my WLB…no problem
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Wimbley should be playing next to ShoNasty.
No to Morrison, get a real SLB to play with McClain and Wimbley.
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Interesting theory but why have him cover rbs out the the backfield to that extent? You saying play him next to Shaughnessy as if that will solve our issues. . He isnt that great in coverage but you rather have him at SLB cuz he will get smoked on the weakside. Kam playing on strongside whether at LB or DE is something I dig more
June 29th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Davy, that’s not what I asked you.
I asked you if you could picture Elway playing for the Raiders in the late ’80s, when the Raiders started to just implode. What’s Elway thinking when Al benches his SB MVP tail back? What’s Elway thinking when Al finally hires an HC that understands the modern game and how to make the best of Elway’s skills, only to fire him a year later?
Elway played until 1998, Davy. I’m thinking by ‘87 Elways is demanding a trade, threatening to leave football and play baseball if Al doesn’t trade him.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Wimbley should NEVER be in pass coverage unless it’s some type of zone drop.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
If Elway goes to the Raiders in 83 as the heir to Plunkett that the team never got, what makes you think that they don’t win a ton of games, and those HC changes and benchings never happen? Your hate of all things Al Davis, that’s what.
So by 87, playing with Bo Jackson, Elway is demanding a trade? Rigggggggght. No potential in that partnership whatsoever. #sarcasm
June 29th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I suddenly remembered how he shook Kirk out his drawlz on a crucial 3rd and 8 when we were up 16-7. If Kirk made that tackle bills punt and we may have won that game.
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BAUCE,
you got 1 play in 5 years? Marshawn Lynch ran through like 5 Saints defenders for a 50+ TD last year when the Seachickens came to town
are all those dudes scrubs?
What if the only play I remembered about Jacoby Ford was the fumble against the Jags that cost us the game and possibly the playoffs?
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RRS we are using one example of many that Kirk fked up like that. Raiders staff had enough of it thats why he almost lost his spot to scrub Ricky Brown in 09.
Oh well after Jacoby messed up in Jax….the next week vs Denver to start the game he took a 70 plus yard reverse to the hut, then the following week he starts Indy game to the crib on the KO….and to even that out he runs a reverse inside like the 15 to put us up by 14 in the fourth quarter. Kirk aint did a damn thing and you know it
June 29th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
J Hill Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Wimbley should NEVER be in pass coverage unless it’s some type of zone drop.
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LOL yeah the typical Raider defense eh?….haha I agree just on the strong side
June 29th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Davy Jones Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
If Elway goes to the Raiders in 83 as the heir to Plunkett that the team never got, what makes you think that they don’t win a ton of games, and those HC changes and benchings never happen? Your hate of all things Al Davis, that’s what.
So by 87, playing with Bo Jackson, Elway is demanding a trade? Rigggggggght. No potential in that partnership whatsoever. #sarcasm
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Hammer dont hurt em like that lol……you right on the money but Raiders would have never left LA. We possibly talking 3 more Super Bowls and possibly whooping the Niners asses to where 88 and 89 may have never happened
June 29th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Davy…
You have to have a coach. Tom Flores and John Elway? You think that works? In the late ’80s? When the game was shifting heavily toward WCO-like, high percentage passing?
Elways’ cool when Al starts playing his games with Marcus? Bo’s only there half the year, Davy. Elway’s a competitor. Who’s his tail back in September? Who’s his tail back opening game? Bo’s in KC, Davy, in a baseball uniform.
Elway’s cool with all of this?
Elway doesn’t want a tad bit of an upgrade at HC?
Al finally gives him Shanahan, then starts playing games with Shanahan?
Elway’s cool with all of this?
The Elway we all know?
The Elway we’ve all heard talk on t.v. several times? We know how passionate he is and how competitive he is?
Davy…we know Elway is Gannon x10 when it comes to his philosophy and how seriously the preparation to the game should be taken.
Think it through, Davy. Then give me your best answer.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I know we are going to see some of the typical Raider stuff, but what do you make of Woodson saying our going to play more facing the QB?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
J Hill Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I know we are going to see some of the typical Raider stuff, but what do you make of Woodson saying our going to play more facing the QB?
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They say lot of things in the off-season.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
* our CBs
June 29th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Davy, that’s not what I asked you.
I asked you if you could picture Elway playing for the Raiders in the late ’80s, when the Raiders started to just implode. What’s Elway thinking when Al benches his SB MVP tail back? What’s Elway thinking when Al finally hires an HC that understands the modern game and how to make the best of Elway’s skills, only to fire him a year later?
Elway played until 1998, Davy. I’m thinking by ‘87 Elways is demanding a trade, threatening to leave football and play baseball if Al doesn’t trade him.
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LOL yeah right! Elway is from LA dammit. Prolly by 86 Elway would have been on the field and 1986 is when the current blur of futility really started. Raiders had made playoffs with Plunkett 83-85….we would be talking its his official show. Do you know how dope Elway was? Al was still seen as a winning football man.
You fool did you see what Elway did in 1986 any damn way? What implosion do you think they would have when there are winning hella games? Possibly titles?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
MR, please.
Plenty of playmakers on the Raiders in the late 80s. Elway never played with an RB as good as Bo Jackson OR Marcus Allen. It would have been an explosive offense.
As for HC, Tom Flores, (who has won as many SBs as Shanahan for the record) ISN’T good enough for Elway, but Dan Reeves is? BS.
You have no respect for any Raider on good terms with Al Davis, which shows how biased and revisionist your opinion is. Tom Flores is a better coach than Elway ever had, and better than Jon Gruden for that matter.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
when there are winning hella games? Possibly titles?
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And in LA of all places. Glad you understand that winning football can be played in LA.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
lol @ Brien.
Elway’s from LA?
Guess who else is from SoCal?
Marcus Allen. And of course he played at USC. He was as much of a home grown product with the LA Raiders as anyone. That worked out well.
Brien…who’s Elways’ coach?
Tom Flores?
WRONG.
No way Elway would go for that.
Elway has a SB MVP tailback in Marcus Allen. Al’s playing games with him, for no reason. Just bizarre.
Now the Raiders make a move for Bo Jackson. Fine. But Bo doesn’t show up till mid -October.
Who’s Elway’s tailback in September, Brien?
Who do you think Elway is?
He’s John Elway. He’s got a spot on the NY Yankees just waiting for him.
Al hires Shanahan, finally a coach Elway can work with. Al fires Shanahan a year later.
Elway’s putting up with all of this?
Come on, Brien. Denial’s no place to be.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Al Davis took a winning team to LA. Brought back a losing team from LA.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Davy Jones Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
MR, please.
Plenty of playmakers on the Raiders in the late 80s.
………….
Who? Besides the players we’ve already mentioned?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
J Hill Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
And in LA of all places. Glad you understand that winning football can be played in LA
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Al Davis took a winning team to LA. Brought back a losing team from LA.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Denial is no place to be? Dude, you LIVE in denial, with your ridiculous Ron Wolf/Jon Gruden fetish. Not even Tom Jackson, let alone Jon Gruden or Ron Wolf, believes what you believe.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Todd Christensen? That’s one. One is hardly “plenty”. Plenty of play makers on the late ’80s Raiders. lmfao. Give me a break. There were hardly any.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Davy…
You have to have a coach. Tom Flores and John Elway? You think that works? In the late ’80s? When the game was shifting heavily toward WCO-like, high percentage passing?
Elways’ cool when Al starts playing his games with Marcus? Bo’s only there half the year, Davy. Elway’s a competitor. Who’s his tail back in September? Who’s his tail back opening game? Bo’s in KC, Davy, in a baseball uniform.
Elway’s cool with all of this?
Elway doesn’t want a tad bit of an upgrade at HC?
Al finally gives him Shanahan, then starts playing games with Shanahan?
Elway’s cool with all of this?
The Elway we all know?
The Elway we’ve all heard talk on t.v. several times? We know how passionate he is and how competitive he is?
Davy…we know Elway is Gannon x10 when it comes to his philosophy and how seriously the preparation to the game should be taken.
Think it through, Davy. Then give me your best answer.
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HAHA exactly how many teams were running the “Paul Brown” offense in the late 80s?
Tad bit upgrade at coach? You mean the guy who had multiple rings to his football resume? Did Flores teams just make playoffs for 3 straight seasons before 86 when Elway would have started?
How do you know Elway would have tripped about the Bo/Marcus thing? Marcus had hella carries from his sophomore year at USC up the the end of the 1986 season. We used Marcus alot and Al was trying to save that garbage trash bastard.
What QB wouldnt like a two headed monster heading down the home stretch of the season heading into the playoffs? Be serious
June 29th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Davy, waiting on you to names some of these playmakers on the late ’80s Raiders, other than Marcus and Bo.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Brien, are you seriously saying Elway would have been cool with Flores as his head coach going into the late ’80s? What did Flores do after he left the Raiders? I’ll wait.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
That is it? Thats how you refute my case? ….. Oh wait you havent refuted my case, or made a counter argument, or posted anything on this blog of any value your entire miserable life?
Your takes are painfully weak, mainly because you never have one. your like a bum at a soup kitchen bra…
you bring nothing to the table
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# Silverandblack666 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am
“That is it? Thats how you refute my case? ”
Your case is full of non factual retarded ramblings and when you talk enough you seem to dispute your own case.
I was simply pointing out the obvious…..that you are so full of yourself that you think your little blog opinions have some kind of pull on what the Raider organization actually does. Or that you are so brilliant that you and Al Davis think exactly alike.
Pretty simple stuff there Einstein.
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Please point out what i said that was non factual. All i did was listen to what Al said in the press conference. Turns out I was right.
I know you have never been right about anything, so you cant relate. this doesnt make me full of myself, it just makes me smarter than you, but then again so is every other living creature /plant on earth…nothing to brag about really
June 29th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Well gee, MR, in 1987 they had a TE named Todd Christienson and a WR named Tim Brown. Playmakers enough for ya?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
lol @ Brien.
Elway’s from LA?
Guess who else is from SoCal?
Marcus Allen. And of course he played at USC. He was as much of a home grown product with the LA Raiders as anyone. That worked out well.
Brien…who’s Elways’ coach?
Tom Flores?
WRONG.
No way Elway would go for that.
Elway has a SB MVP tailback in Marcus Allen. Al’s playing games with him, for no reason. Just bizarre.
Now the Raiders make a move for Bo Jackson. Fine. But Bo doesn’t show up till mid -October.
Who’s Elway’s tailback in September, Brien?
Who do you think Elway is?
He’s John Elway. He’s got a spot on the NY Yankees just waiting for him.
Al hires Shanahan, finally a coach Elway can work with. Al fires Shanahan a year later.
Elway’s putting up with all of this?
Come on, Brien. Denial’s no place to be.
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I said LA not SAN DIEGO!. Not the same thing buddy. Is all NorCal the same? LOL way Sac guy
Fool Marcus was starting but didnt play full season man. And his yards per game and everything had fell in 1986. Guy was fumbling and schit…he just had lost a little but Al got Bo to save Mucus’ punk ass. A two head monster was perfect but Mucus is a b-tch.
How do you figure Flores is even gone by 1988 if the 86 and 87 seasons werent such a disappointment?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Of course MM 34 struggled at times last year, it was his first real nfl action. he was still basically a rookie, & you dont expect rookies to play error free do you? He also played very well at other times. i saw enough out of him to see there is plenty f upside. He makes the defense better when he is playing up in the box, him at strong safety is a natural fit. he will be better at strong than huff was, and branch.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Elway, Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen,Tim Brown, Todd C? LOL, I’ll take it.
I suppose you’d prefer Dan Reeves and the no name Broncos, you total Raider fan you.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
I already gave you Todd C.
Tim Brown? A playmaker in the late ’80s? People were calling Tim Brown a bust until he finally broke through in ‘93, which was his first 1,000 yard season as a receiver. Tim Brown was certainly a good player but he was hardly a playmaker early in his career.
Davy, you know Elway doesn’t play for that zoo that was the late ’80’s L.A. Raiders. You know he doesn’t. You’re trying to convince people in here that the late ’80s Raiders were the same as the early ’80s Raiders. They were two entirely different teams. Elway would not have played for Al Davis. Just admit it.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Brien, are you seriously saying Elway would have been cool with Flores as his head coach going into the late ’80s? What did Flores do after he left the Raiders? I’ll wait.
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Hmmmm let’s see if Elway was here from 83 on….His first three years he learns from Plunkett who wins a title his rookie year and other two years has like 12 and 11 wins, you think he isnt listening to flores a former QB himself? He most definitely knows what he is doing right?
And guess what? Elway had problems with Reeves and went to super bowl 3 times….lost but still wenty….so I dont know know why you think its a debacle all of sudden
June 29th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I said beside bo Jackson and Marcus Allen, and I gave you Todd C right after that comment, before you responded. You said the team had several playmakers other than Marcus and Bo. There’s only one. Todd C. Marcus was not a playmaker early in his career. It took Tim a long time to reach his potential in the NFL. He was not a playmaker in the late ’80s. He was average.
Considering the lack of talent, and the absolute zoo that Al was creating, there’s no way John Elway would have stomached the late ’80s Raiders. He wasn’t some scrub desperate for a job. He had options.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Correction: Tim Brown was not a playmaker early in his career, I meant to say. I accidentally said Marcus.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Davy, waiting on you to names some of these playmakers on the late ’80s Raiders, other than Marcus and Bo.
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I knoe Mervyn Fernandez made some plays in the late 80s…do you forget about Tim Brown’s rookie year? That was late 80s
June 29th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Brien,
WHO’S HIS COACH?
WHO’S THE COACH?
ELWAY IS NOT PLAYING FOR TOM FLORES!
WHO DO YOU THINK JOHN ELWAY IS? MARC WILSON?
JOHN ELWAY HAD OPTIONS, BRIEN.
HE DOESN’T PLAY FOR A WASHED UP TOM FLORES IN THE LATE ‘80S.
AND THERE’S NO WAY ELWAY TOLERATES HIS STARTING TAILBACK BEING BENCHED JUST BECAUSE AL DOESN’T LIKE HIM. THERE’S NO WAY HE TOLERATES BO BEING GONE HALF THE YEAR. ELWAY IS A COMPETITOR. HE’S NOT A RAIDER.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
MERVYN FERNANDEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Tim Brown? A playmaker in the late ’80s? People were calling Tim Brown a bust until he finally broke through in ‘93, which was his first 1,000 yard season as a receiver. Tim Brown was certainly a good player but he was hardly a playmaker early in his career.
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HAHAHAHAHA tell me how many TDs timmy had before 93 total….bet ya its 20 at the least….not a player maker? Oh yeah he missed entire 89 season and it takes 2 full years for a knee to get 100 pct….try again moron
June 29th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Hey Brien and Davy,
Don’t forget Dokie Williams!!
June 29th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Brien TB’s first big year was 1993. Nobody was a afraid of him before then.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
MERVYN FERNANDEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!
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You said in the late 80s…..Mervyn didnt have at least one season then that was good where he didnt make alot of plays? Stop lying
June 29th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I love when people say that getting Mitchell on the field will help this defense,
you might as well just think Bruce Gradkowski is going to turn it around,
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first of all i said mm 34 is an instant upgrade for the run defense. I made no mention about pass coverage.
Secondly there is a major difference between mm 34 and your hero scabs, its called talent”
next
June 29th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Brien TB’s first big year was 1993. Nobody was a afraid of him before then.
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Notice how he runs from the facts. He was a 3WR and KR/PR with like 20 career tds in four full seasons lol….you think no one was scared of him? LOL you are a liar
June 29th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Woo, look at the all caps! So convincing. Again, your objection to Tom Flores is that he’s an Al Davis supporter. Your bias is not Elways’ bias, and Elways’ tolerance of Dan Reeves shows that he was far less concerned with mediocre coaching than you are painting him to be. He’d have far more respect for Flores’ two SB rings than you do, you “Raider Fan”.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
“AIG will be back. He’s just waiting for the Jason Campbell hype to die down”
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There really hasn’t been that much JaJason hype going on here.
There’s only a handful of posters here that actually talk about JaJason being a stud or having a great year.
What I see is a bunch of half-hearted, semi-enthusiasm.
Don’t really see anyone proclaiming JaJason to be the answer at QB. Hardly anyone thinks JC is a franchise QB.
Nope. Primarily what we hear is ‘JaJason is way better than Grads’ or ‘as long as JaJason doesn’t have to throw it 25 times a game we’ll be fine’.
Not exactly resounding votes of confidence.
More like, ‘Let’s hope for the best and wait and see what happens’.
Try as they might, even JaJason’s more vehement supporters can’t erase their nagging doubts. They would like to completely erase the memories of SF, St Lou, Tenn. and Pitt. But they can’t.
The incredible level of vomit inducing incompetence displayed in those games, can’t be erased, and is indelibly etched into their consciousness.
Nope, not too much JaJason hype. More like some false bravado and guarded optimism, tempered by the reality of actually having seen JaJason’s epic failures.
AIG will be proven right.
JaJason sucks.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Krappy when’s your next trip to Copenhagen? Hard to keep up with a saavy world traveler like yourself.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Brien,
WHO’S HIS COACH?
WHO’S THE COACH?
ELWAY IS NOT PLAYING FOR TOM FLORES!
WHO DO YOU THINK JOHN ELWAY IS? MARC WILSON?
JOHN ELWAY HAD OPTIONS, BRIEN.
HE DOESN’T PLAY FOR A WASHED UP TOM FLORES IN THE LATE ‘80S.
AND THERE’S NO WAY ELWAY TOLERATES HIS STARTING TAILBACK BEING BENCHED JUST BECAUSE AL DOESN’T LIKE HIM. THERE’S NO WAY HE TOLERATES BO BEING GONE HALF THE YEAR. ELWAY IS A COMPETITOR. HE’S NOT A RAIDER.
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What proof do you have that Elway wouldnt have played for Flores? He refused the Colts but not thwe Raiders in 83. His agent was down and so was he…so you are lying…..again lol
Why wouldnt he hav played for Tom right after Plunkett was done? Explain that after I just showed Flores teams were winning up until the time Elway would have been given the keys?
I KEEP ASKING YOU THIS….now answer
June 29th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Brien and Davy,
Elway’s gone before 1990, come hell or high water. The late ’80s is when Al went into full Al mode. Got rid of all his good front office people. Started making the dumbest decisions. Beefing with Marcus…most of the players from that day still don’t understand that. Read Howie and Ronnie Lott’s forwards in Marcus’s book. No way Elway sticks around for that mess. And that’s assuming he even goes to the Raiders in the first place, in the early ’80s. Because a lot of league insiders probably knew then Al was losing it. I mean, the move to LA in the first place? Elway’s dad has a lot of friends. He’s got as many inside sources as anyone. Elway would never be a Raider. Period. You guys know that. Why exhaust yourselves trying to convince anyone, including yourselves, otherwise?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Brien, the game was shifting heavily to a high percentage passing game by the late ’80s. It was no longer about those 7 step drops and power running, which is all Flores knows. That would have worn on Elway right off the bat. Right off the bat Elway would have been demanding a new coach.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Davy Jones Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Woo, look at the all caps! So convincing. Again, your objection to Tom Flores is that he’s an Al Davis supporter. Your bias is not Elways’ bias, and Elways’ tolerance of Dan Reeves shows that he was far less concerned with mediocre coaching than you are painting him to be. He’d have far more respect for Flores’ two SB rings than you do, you “Raider Fan”.
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He keeps running from the facts here…that is what MR does.
He claims Elway wouldnt have played for Flores…..I’d like to know where he got that from. Did Elway say it to anyone?
Why would Elway not wanna play for a guy who has a title as a coach and player? A former QB at that?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Brien, the game was shifting heavily to a high percentage passing game by the late ’80s. It was no longer about those 7 step drops and power running, which is all Flores knows. That would have worn on Elway right off the bat. Right off the bat Elway would have been demanding a new coach.
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You are a damn lie lol. The end o fthe big drop back passers being so prevalent happened in the 90s the mid 90s at that you liar
June 29th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
the As’ need to stay in the town, san jose has always been cow town. Now that the tech industry is there its a glorified robot cow town. Granted the coliseum stinks for baseball, so we dont get the cross over casual fans, corporate lunch crowd, or tourist like AT&T, but that is no excuse for wolf and beans crap. you want to fill up the coliseum…simple put an exciting product on the field.
You already have the 13-15 k die hard baseball fans at the game. We understand pitching its an oakland staple, has been since the seventies. If you want to draw the the rest of them, you need the long ball. Dont give me that ” when they were winning in the early 2000’s you didnt sell out”. Ther is a very simple reason, MONEY BALL IS BORING!!!!
Jemile weeks is a reason to watch, chris carter would be reason to watch. Speed at the top of the order godzilla and carter back to back in the line up.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
JaMann99
I’m optimistic Jason will have a “good” year this year. He’s a pretty good QB that’s had a rough road. good Arm, Mobility. I think he’s naturally cautious, and that’s not a bad thing.
With Hue, and the first time in his career entering the 2nd year of an offense, will do him well.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
# RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Brien, the game was shifting heavily to a high percentage passing game by the late ’80s. It was no longer about those 7 step drops and power running, which is all Flores knows. That would have worn on Elway right off the bat. Right off the bat Elway would have been demanding a new coach.
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Hate to break it to you, elway played for reeves, power running 7 step drop offense. same offense revves learned from his cowboy back ground. He played in that offense until Sham- a -ham came and changed it.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Brien and Davy,
Elway’s gone before 1990, come hell or high water. The late ’80s is when Al went into full Al mode. Got rid of all his good front office people. Started making the dumbest decisions. Beefing with Marcus…most of the players from that day still don’t understand that. Read Howie and Ronnie Lott’s forwards in Marcus’s book. No way Elway sticks around for that mess. And that’s assuming he even goes to the Raiders in the first place, in the early ’80s. Because a lot of league insiders probably knew then Al was losing it. I mean, the move to LA in the first place? Elway’s dad has a lot of friends. He’s got as many inside sources as anyone. Elway would never be a Raider. Period. You guys know that. Why exhaust yourselves trying to convince anyone, including yourselves, otherwise?
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No this is what you would wish. This is not reality MR.
LOL Ronnie Lott was played for four super bowl teams and has 10 straight playoff seasons before coming here in 91. You think players dont talk? Why did here go to play for the Raiders then? How stayed his entire career with Raiders to 93 so what about their forwards?
LOL his dad had hella sources? Elway woke up in the morning after being acquired by Al thinking he was a Raider you fool! Jack sources didnt tell him that April night in 83? LOL some pull his dad has then
June 29th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Elways reminds me of Rich Gannon, as far as his competitiveness and preparation goes. Look what Gannon has said about the Raiders after he left. When Gannon came here, he had no options. Elway had options. No way he plays for Al Davis.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Which team originally drafted Elway ?
Why did the NFL not allow his trade to the Raids ?
Hate to give any Mule credit, but I think Elway was the best QB to ever play. I’d take him over anyone.
Figure the Raids have about 8 Lombardis if Rozelle doesn’t veto the trade.
What was the story behind that ?
June 29th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
MR is running from my questions…..I dont get this….lol I thought he was some intellectual that can give valid arguments…..I’m not seeing it….everything ok MR?
June 29th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Elways reminds me of Rich Gannon, as far as his competitiveness and preparation goes. Look what Gannon has said about the Raiders after he left. When Gannon came here, he had no options. Elway had options. No way he plays for Al Davis.
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His dream was to play football…that’s his passion. He didnt wanna play for loser Colts but him and his agent agreed to playing for Raiders……THIS IS FACT
You were first saying he wouldnt play for Tom Flores…..now no way he plays for Al Davis…..you are flip flopping….typical democrat
June 29th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Which team originally drafted Elway ?
Why did the NFL not allow his trade to the Raids ?
Hate to give any Mule credit, but I think Elway was the best QB to ever play. I’d take him over anyone.
Figure the Raids have about 8 Lombardis if Rozelle doesn’t veto the trade.
What was the story behind that ?
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Cant really argue you with ya on this one
June 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
OK, Elway was drafted by the Colts.
But then a deal was in place for Raids to obtain him.
Why was that trade nixed by the NFL ?
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Elway that refused to go to the Raids.
What happened ?
June 29th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
# RAIDER Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Brien, the game was shifting heavily to a high percentage passing game by the late ’80s. It was no longer about those 7 step drops and power running, which is all Flores knows. That would have worn on Elway right off the bat. Right off the bat Elway would have been demanding a new coach.
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Hate to break it to you, elway played for reeves, power running 7 step drop offense. same offense revves learned from his cowboy back ground. He played in that offense until Sham- a -ham came and changed it.
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It wasnt all 7s but Shanny’s version Elway was putting the ball up the field. He wasnt a dink and dunk QB for sure. Did toss alot of INTs tho…but great QB and Al knew it
June 29th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
OK, Elway was drafted by the Colts.
But then a deal was in place for Raids to obtain him.
Why was that trade nixed by the NFL ?
I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Elway that refused to go to the Raids.
What happened ?
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Pete Rozelle is what happened…..he told Oakland City council they didnt have to cave in to Al’s demands when they ended up doing it 13 years later for 200 million lol…..then he uper hated on 3 team deal that brings Elway to Raiders
June 29th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Elway worried for Russell, hammers Raiders
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson
If getting engaged to a former Raiders cheerleader wasn’t enough, John Elway has further aggravated Raider Nation.
In a column for the Sporting News, the legendary Denver quarterback said young Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell won’t be able to succeed in Oakland.
“JaMarcus Russell’s only chance at NFL success is to get out of Oakland. OK, maybe that’s harsh. But we all know it’s his best chance at success,” Elway writes.
This, courtesy of the Sporting News, is what else Elway wrote:
“The fastest way to ruin a quarterback is to put him on a bad team, with a bad line, with no weapons, with no continuity in the coaching staff. That pretty much describes the current Raiders. The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it. Every time the Raiders get a good coach — Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Norv Turner, etc. — who doesn’t buy into Al’s outdated program, he fires him.
“It’s this kind of organizational instability that can ruin a quarterback, like the Texans ruined David Carr and the Browns ruined Tim Couch. A young quarterback, especially a No. 1 guy with the weight of a city’s expectations on his shoulders, can wilt. A young quarterback needs a calm, steady influence on and off the field. The first three years for an NFL quarterback are rocky no matter what. He needs a coach to teach him the game of football and a kind of father figure to nurture him and get him through the tough times off the field.
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
I’ll say it for you: Wow.
This is, indeed, harsh but it can’t just be thrown away as typical former-player hyperbole. Elway’s words come across as well thought out. Elway certainly knows what it takes to be an NFL star. He isn’t coming from left field here. And, let’s face it, the Raiders have struggled.
Do I agree with Elway? I don’t think it’s as bad in Oakland anymore as Elway writes, and I don’t think Russell is a lost cause there. But it is certainly interesting fodder.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
“JaMarcus Russell’s only chance at NFL success is to get out of Oakland. OK, maybe that’s harsh. But we all know it’s his best chance at success,” Elway writes.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Horseface could do it all. Very mobile. Bazooka arm. Great accuracy. Fabulous long ball. Tough competitor. Clutch.
Best I’ve seen.
Take him over Montana, Marino, Aikman, Bradshaw, Fouts, Kelly or any of the QBs of that era.
I’m positive Al surrounds him with great players and Raids have more rings than anyone.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
June 29th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Cold thing is MR’s dumbass doesnt even acknowledge who Elway’s agent was in 1983. When you find out who Elway’s money handler you will see that he is a damn lie about Elway would have refused going to play for Al Davis. Follow the bread crumbs kid
June 29th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@JaRaidermann99
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
June 29th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Elway worried for Russell, hammers Raiders
Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson
If getting engaged to a former Raiders cheerleader wasn’t enough, John Elway has further aggravated Raider Nation.
In a column for the Sporting News, the legendary Denver quarterback said young Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell won’t be able to succeed in Oakland.
“JaMarcus Russell’s only chance at NFL success is to get out of Oakland. OK, maybe that’s harsh. But we all know it’s his best chance at success,” Elway writes.
This, courtesy of the Sporting News, is what else Elway wrote:
“The fastest way to ruin a quarterback is to put him on a bad team, with a bad line, with no weapons, with no continuity in the coaching staff. That pretty much describes the current Raiders. The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it. Every time the Raiders get a good coach — Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Norv Turner, etc. — who doesn’t buy into Al’s outdated program, he fires him.
“It’s this kind of organizational instability that can ruin a quarterback, like the Texans ruined David Carr and the Browns ruined Tim Couch. A young quarterback, especially a No. 1 guy with the weight of a city’s expectations on his shoulders, can wilt. A young quarterback needs a calm, steady influence on and off the field. The first three years for an NFL quarterback are rocky no matter what. He needs a coach to teach him the game of football and a kind of father figure to nurture him and get him through the tough times off the field.
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
I’ll say it for you: Wow.
This is, indeed, harsh but it can’t just be thrown away as typical former-player hyperbole. Elway’s words come across as well thought out. Elway certainly knows what it takes to be an NFL star. He isn’t coming from left field here. And, let’s face it, the Raiders have struggled.
Do I agree with Elway? I don’t think it’s as bad in Oakland anymore as Elway writes, and I don’t think Russell is a lost cause there. But it is certainly interesting fodder.
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Ok Kell……we had a post on that back then on this blog I believe or talked about it in depth…keep up with what MR, Davy and I were discussing
June 29th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
June 29th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
John Elway.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@JaRaidermann99
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
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Yeah he is saying that because Russell didnt want to come and play for Oakland just like he didnt want to play in Baltimore.
Sad thing is Kell I told you in 2008 this same thing and you totally dismissed it and wanted a link…..lol thanks for memories again
June 29th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
John Elway 2008
June 29th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
John Elway.
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Your point? Had the 83 trade not get nixed by good ole Pete Elway was going to play for Al with no issue at all.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
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Maybe Horseface should sign JaMoron. Would love to see that.
“The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it.”
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We’ll see about that. Comments like these makes sweeping the Mules so much sweeter.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
“I feel for JaMarcus. Physically, he has it all. He’s an unbelievable talent — strong arm, tall, big. In the right situation, he could have a great NFL career. In Oakland, he has almost no chance.”
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Maybe Horseface should sign JaMoron. Would love to see that.
“The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it.”
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We’ll see about that. Comments like these makes sweeping the Mules so much sweeter.
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John Elway is 13-16 vs the Raiders…..took him late in his career to make it even closer from the landslide it was lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Another thing about Elway is..although he is a great QB maybe the greatest…guy has tainted rings. His last 3 years in the league the Broncos were fking cheating.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
FACT CHECK: Documents Reveal Bachmann Benefited From And Relied Upon Government-Funded Earmarks
For a presidential candidate who declares herself to be “very sincere in what I say,” Rep. Michele Bachmann is refusing to come clean about the public money she and her husband have received.
The Los Angeles Times reported on June 26 that Bachmann and her husband received around $290,000 in public funding in between 2007 and 2011 for two projects: 1) some $260,000 in subsidies given to a farm of which she is a partner and 2) close to $30,000 given to her husband’s clinic. Asked about the government aid on Fox News Sunday, Bachmann denied she and her husband had benefited from the money
http://thinkprogress.org/
June 29th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Happy hour was a dud, lol.
The calamari was hitting though. Those little guys never deviate from the script.
June 29th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
FACT CHECK: Documents Reveal Bachmann Benefited From And Relied Upon Government-Funded Earmarks
For a presidential candidate who declares herself to be “very sincere in what I say,” Rep. Michele Bachmann is refusing to come clean about the public money she and her husband have received.
The Los Angeles Times reported on June 26 that Bachmann and her husband received around $290,000 in public funding in between 2007 and 2011 for two projects: 1) some $260,000 in subsidies given to a farm of which she is a partner and 2) close to $30,000 given to her husband’s clinic. Asked about the government aid on Fox News Sunday, Bachmann denied she and her husband had benefited from the money
http://thinkprogress.org/
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Link and Lump offense
June 29th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Raiders have succeeded with many different QB’s.
Jamarcus Russell has never succeeded with any NFL team, and currently no NFL team even wants him as a backup.
Case closed.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
FACT CHECK: Documents Reveal Bachmann Benefited From And Relied Upon Government-Funded Earmarks
For a presidential candidate who declares herself to be “very sincere in what I say,” Rep. Michele Bachmann is refusing to come clean about the public money she and her husband have received.
The Los Angeles Times reported on June 26 that Bachmann and her husband received around $290,000 in public funding in between 2007 and 2011 for two projects: 1) some $260,000 in subsidies given to a farm of which she is a partner and 2) close to $30,000 given to her husband’s clinic. Asked about the government aid on Fox News Sunday, Bachmann denied she and her husband had benefited from the money
http://thinkprogress.org/
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Sounds like Just Fire Baby, no?
June 29th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Que???
Still hung up on my first FHA loan are you??
Just mad that you haven’t been able to find a qualified buyer in a couple of years??
Keep trying little buddy, you will luck into one soon enough.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Watching this NFLN #20 list.
Should be fun trying to block Clay Matthews later this year.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
KoolKell, Why are you worried about Bachmann? Your crime family is in control. Relax.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Raiders have succeeded with many different QB’s.
Jamarcus Russell has never succeeded with any NFL team, and currently no NFL team even wants him as a backup.
Case closed.
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Amen….even other terrible QBs at least can get another job in NFL. So him leaving Oakland so far has been bad news. Foreclosed cribs and arrested and schit lol….failed workouts mocked at the notion ofp laying in UFL when it is questionable if he can even be a good qb now in the NCAA
June 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Twocents Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
KoolKell, Why are you worried about Bachmann? Your crime family is in control. Relax.
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LMAO post of the day
June 29th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Showed the Nnamdi #18 on the list clips.
Funny, they show his INT in Minny in the back of the end zone, but don’t show how he finished the play.
Instead of taking a knee in the back of the end zone, he inexplicably brings it out of the end zone…….to the 2 yard line.
Not a winning play.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Twocents Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
KoolKell, Why are you worried about Bachmann? Your crime family is in control. Relax.
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LMAO post of the day
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Such a little kiss azz wannabe Homecoming Queen. Lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
What do politicians have in common with a septic tank? The big chunks of sht rise to the top.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Twocents Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
KoolKell, Why are you worried about Bachmann? Your crime family is in control. Relax.
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LMAO post of the day
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Such a little kiss azz wannabe Homecoming Queen. Lol.
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How so? The post was funny and quite relevant Kell.
June 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leB4BlO-vas&feature=related
Let’s talk positive now…..this is some of what you can expect to see in Oakland next season the Warriors at SG
June 29th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3MIoHAiJAE&feature=related
Not a fluke….KT has got game baby
June 29th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djehTM-u35I
A 6′7 SG baby…..how do you like the string music?
June 29th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsmRHAoP4Kw&feature=related
Just a smooth ball player….something we need in Oakland
June 29th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
I’m all for a thorough vetting of all candidates.
I think Bachmann will come through her’s fine. Not so sure about the Prez.
Partner in a farm that rcvd subsidies ? Hubby’s clinic got some funding ? Wow !
How does that compare to Obummer’s corrupt real estate deals with Rezko ? Associations with Ayers and Alinksy ? Wright ? Academic records from Columbia ?
LA Times wants to thoroughly investigate each candidate and inform the public ? Why does the LA Times refuse to release the tape they have of Obum and Rashid Khalidi ?
Obum’s got plenty of skeletons in his closet.
Prez Obum is about to find out that the pass he got from a doting, fawning media the first time around has reached it’s expiration date.
June 29th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
I’m all for a thorough vetting of all candidates.
I think Bachmann will come through her’s fine. Not so sure about the Prez.
Partner in a farm that rcvd subsidies ? Hubby’s clinic got some funding ? Wow !
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Nobody cares about her clinic or farm, it’s just the sheer hypocrisy to her own ideology, that I think will do her in with the educated middle.
Other that that, she’s rather ignorant.
June 29th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
P@lin, Gingrich, Bachman, Limbaugh etc are hustling that “market”, and laughing all the way to the bank.
June 29th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
411.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Which team originally drafted Elway ?
Why did the NFL not allow his trade to the Raids ?
Hate to give any Mule credit, but I think Elway was the best QB to ever play. I’d take him over anyone.
Figure the Raids have about 8 Lombardis if Rozelle doesn’t veto the trade.
What was the story behind that ?
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The widely held perception is that Rozelle knew Elway was going to be a very good player. He knew that Al wanted Elway badly. Pete and Al had a contentious relationship dating back to the merger, and Rozelle vetoed the trade to spite Al because of it.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Maybe Elway vetoed the trade.
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
John Elway.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
‘Sup fellas.
OMFG. I just got home and finished reading through this thread. I don’t even know where to start.
I should know not to take MaddenRaider too seriously. His game is to try and push some buttons and get a reaction from Raider fans. He craves the attention, and loves to create some controversy.
I hope that is the case with this John Elway nonsense he was spouting. He can’t be serious. Nobody can be that retarded. To be that retarded there would have to be generations of inbreeding involved. His lusting after his aunt Theresa’s great set of cans would just be the tip of the iceberg.
Somwhere in rural Sacramento, far off the beaten path…there would have to be a small cabin with dueling banjo music emanating.
Tim Brown didn’t emerge until ‘93? Gee, you think his stats might’ve looked a lil different catching passes from Elway as opposed to Rusty Hilger and a young Steve Buerlein. Seriously.
1985 Raiders were 12-4, and had homefield advantage through AFC playoffs. Hmmmm….wonder how they would’ve faired with Mr Ed instead of Marc Wilson.
Elway would’ve been the heir apparent to Plunk. Been handing off to Marcus and Bo instead of Sammy Winder. You just have to wonder how many more rings John and AD would each have. We’ll never know.
Why did Pete nix the trade? Well, I’m guessing handing The Lombardis to his bitter rival Al Davis wasn’t all that pleasant for him, and he didn’t want it to become an annual event. Just my opinion.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Kell,
C’mon. You know better than that. Elway, the career Bronco was talking about the 2008 Oakland Raiders.
Not the 1983 circa Raiders, who would go on and win the SB that year. They were still very much an elite franchise and annual Super Bowl contender.
I know you’re bitter over the the last seven years of losing, and probably still pizzed at AD for moving the franchise out of Oakland in the first place, but you’re better than that.
Elway woulda welcomed that deal in a heartbeat, and his agent has insinuated as much.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Kell you’re a damn liar too. Elway was talking about how he didnt want to play for Bmore like Russell didnt want to play for Oakland. Go check who Elway’s agent was and see how he was great buddies they were. Elway didnt veto Raiders otherwise he would have never said he went to sleep thinking he was a Raider.!!!!!……..Kell you are a total idiot. You think players dont wanna go to winning situations? Dumbass
June 29th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
The leverage Elway was referring to was obviously baseball and the downtrodden Colts who were going to draft him #1. Not the Super Bowl contending team that was trying to trade for him. C’mon. Really.
Don’t let your displeasure with 2011 AD completely cloud your reasoning.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Buckeye exactly…..Marvin Demoff was very cool with Al…..the Raiders were gonna give up Marc Wilson and like 3 first rounders plus maybe another player
June 29th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Kell and MR are flat out liars……in 08 i told Kell Russell didnt wanna be here…he asked for a link because he thought I made it up lol. Now his own link for ammo against Al bites him in the ass
June 29th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Rozelle and Al hated each other since the 60s. Al wanted to take NFL out of business but a pxssy fart like Lamar C^nt is punk. Then Al moved to LA when Rozelle thought he could punk him lol. But Rozelle got last laugh by hating on the Elway trade. He knew raiders for the next decade and a half would be elite still
June 29th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
His lusting after his aunt Theresa’s great set of cans would just be the tip of the iceberg
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LMAO!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Someone should raise Rozelle up from the dead and kill him again cuz he didnt die hard enough the first time. YEAH I SAID IT
June 29th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Maybe Elway vetoed the trade.
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
John Elway.
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Your conspiracy theory against mine, ok?
June 29th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
You know I am not much of a conspiracy theorists. In fact, I hate conspiracy theories and fail to even acknowledge their existence.
I don’t believe in any Raider conspiracies. None of them.
But researching this one……leaves me scratching my head a little.
Ron Wolf is on record saying their was a trade in place. The Bears GM at the time, it was a proposed 3-team trade, said he thought there was an agreement in place.
Eventually, no deal was made, and the Colts got less than what the Raiders were supposedly offering.
Not quite Area 51 stuff, but there seems to be some funky stuff involved here, but 1980’s NFL was a pretty funky era. You had the UFL emergence stealing players from college, player strikes, major steriod issues, teams relocating.
Just some weird times.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Elway had all the leverage.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Let’s see…From Elway’s perspective…
The Colts are the worst team in the league. They’re drafting #1 one for a reason. Think I’d rather play baseball.
Oh, somebody is willing to make a blockbuster trade up to get me. Who? The LA Raiders. The team with the best winning percentage in all of sports. They had the best record in the league last year? Great defense.
Rookie of the year, Heisman winning running back to hand off to. Hmmmmm.
Nah, 30 years from now…their GM will be 81 and still in charge. What a joke. Veto that trade Marvin. What are you thinking?
I wannna go to Denver. They have some really ugly unis and…..Coors beer…and…….uhm, uhm. Make it happen, Marvin.
PLEASE.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
its funny that some in here think im crazy for wanting to give up future #1’s and a couple of extra picks for luck next year yet al davis tried to make a similar move for elway 2 decades ago. guess im not that crazy after all. i say try that elway type of trade again next year for the next great stanford qb since horse face. then our offense would really be sick. luck dmc bush miller ford reece jones. damn just think if dhb and chaz would join the party. get er done al!!!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Well fellas, it’s one o’clock in the morn, past my bedtime.
Just, fyi…tomorrow on BSPN at 9:00 et it’s Gruden’s QB camp with TPryor. Ought to be interesting.
G’night Raider Nation.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Elway’s Father was a Head College Coach. Maybe he steered his son away from the Al Davis?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
I’m starting to think players might want to play for the Raiders. Money talks and every player knows Al will pay. So long as Seymour maintains the locker room were cool.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Well fellas, it’s one o’clock in the morn, past my bedtime.
Just, fyi…tomorrow on BSPN at 9:00 et it’s Gruden’s QB camp with TPryor. Ought to be interesting.
G’night Raider Nation.
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Yeah, even though I think the whole Gruden is BS, the prospect of him on the team makes it a must watch
June 29th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
pres purp lips doesn’t even know the age of his daughter? No wonder he thought there are 57 states…
We are in deeper trouble than I thought with this brain dead buffoon.
mope & change
June 29th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
““The fastest way to ruin a quarterback is to put him on a bad team, with a bad line, with no weapons, with no continuity in the coaching staff. That pretty much describes the current Raiders. The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it. Every time the Raiders get a good coach — Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Norv Turner, etc. — who doesn’t buy into Al’s outdated program, he fires him.
“It’s this kind of organizational instability that can ruin a quarterback, like the Texans ruined David Carr and the Browns ruined Tim Couch. A young quarterback, especially a No. 1 guy with the weight of a city’s expectations on his shoulders, can wilt. A young quarterback needs a calm, steady influence on and off the field. The first three years for an NFL quarterback are rocky no matter what. He needs a coach to teach him the game of football and a kind of father figure to nurture him and get him through the tough times off the field.
“Too bad JaMarcus didn’t have the leverage I had in 1983; then he could’ve avoided the Raiders all together. …
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Well, after reading that, I think I change my mind. Wild horses wouldn’t have stopped Elway from joining the silver and black! Only Warren Sapp and Rich Gannon could have kissed up to Al more than that!
June 29th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Good looking out, Kell. That article pretty much ends the debate. But I went ahead and read the ensuing comments from the deniers, anyway. Boy were they swinging into thin air. lol.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
MistaBrown Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
pres purp lips
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As long as you call him President.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Lol MR you proved schit….how does that article by Kell end debate? Its 1983 vs 2008. Elway said he thought he was going to play for Raiders and went to sleep that night believing this. Al davis was seen as the guy he is in recent times as compared to 83? Hell no. So again you are lying. You couldnt answer none of my questions earlier.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
How can we swing for thin air when Elway himself thought he was a Raider? Why didnt he veto it like he did we Colts? If he didnt wanna go play for Raiders he would have said it. Again you’re lying. You continually lied about the Marcus/Bo thing and when facts were presented you dodged it like a coward
June 29th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
You first said Elway would have wanted out after the late 80s then you said he wouldnt play for Flores. Then you said he would never play for Al Davis. All lies. You kept backtracking on it. Then you lied about Elway wouldnt have been alright in 87 with thh Bo getting carries after Marcus was clearly on the decline as a premeir rb. again another lie
June 29th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Youre a pathetic liar MR and Kell sorry ass said maybe which is even more funny. What leverage did Elway have against the Raiders in 83? Lol this outta be good
June 29th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Be a man answer the tough questions and stop running. Its what you do alot. I get u everytime. You cant deal with me nor can Kell
June 29th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
And MR u also blatantly lied that the NFL was going to wco style of passing in the late 80s! I asked you to name the teams who ran WCO offense in the late 80s and still no response….you cant cuz your a lying pxssy ass b-tch
June 30th, 2011 at 5:05 am
Jamarcus Russell got to work with Tom Martinez, Gregg Knapp and Paul Hackett.
Maybe the best trio any young QB EVER got to work with in his first few years.
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JFB,
So far in the NFL… Jason Campbell has had the “pleasure” of working with Don Breaux, Al Saunders, Jim Zorn, Sherman Smith, Hue Jackson, Paul Hackett & Ted Tollner.
thoughts ???
June 30th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Good Morning Nation!
Wow…this went all the place last night huh?
June 30th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Hwnrdr cuz we got two huge liars in Kell and MR….and ill show you why…..you’ll like this
June 30th, 2011 at 6:09 am
“I would have loved to been on the DARK SIDE, especially back in those days, Elway said according to the Sac Bee, about the rumors the Raiders traded for him. “Those were some good football teams and so there are those things where you look back and say ‘What If?’ And that was one of those What ifs”…………that was 2009 a year after Elway made his Russell comments
June 30th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Its murder……welcome to the Terror Dome….the torcher chamber…….a one way ticket to the slaughterhouse……current score is Bauce 1000000000000000000 to Kell/MR’s 0
June 30th, 2011 at 6:16 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.SOMETHING ELSE 2 ARGUE ABOUT HWNRDR,30 YR OLD HISTORY.NEXT WILL BE WHAT TIME THE SUN WILL COME UP 2MORROW..COMEDY CENTRAL THIS PLACE SOMETIME.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:18 am
LOL…good morning Bauce, Rockstar!
June 30th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Now on to more important schit…..Bay Area is on it way to some even more wilder times. San Jose have to cut 70 cops that will be turning in their badges this morning. Bad news cuz the 408 is on fire and the violence will only escalate. And Oakland at least in the East just wont stop the killing aand more concentration from cops will be on the area. On top of that Oakland’s city council having major budget issues and said it will take a miracle to get something done
June 30th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…that is why I stay away at times in the PM. If it’s not political, there is some weird crap that makes me go, huh? Lol…gotta love the AM crew…Where’s Gabby at…coffee and breakfast?
Bauce…you gotta wonder where they get their sh*t from sometimes…lol
June 30th, 2011 at 6:21 am
YEAH this current prez administration sure making things better eh? Let’s dance on butch dike daytime TV, give repeated speeches of nothing and shoot jumpers lol.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:22 am
That is serious…I have friends who are Oakland PD…and they are shaking their heads…
June 30th, 2011 at 6:23 am
DIRT LOT……id prefer to talk about now like most but when blatant lies are said it has to be corrected
June 30th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Hwnrdr…..you know like I know ppl in NorCal got a rebellious spirit….soon we gonna have a major major problem
June 30th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Hwnrdr….u missed the special Bauce has spoken rant on the Ticket 1050 yesterday. I shredded Damon Bruce’s guests who dissed Klay Thompson and put Damon Bruce in his place wwhen he tried to rebutt me. Also put out idea of Osi trade which no Bay area mediot has thought about. To close out I slammed huff and Aso lol
June 30th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Yes we are…especially if there is no football…Ray Lewis was right in a way…by the way…how much are A’s tickets going for these days? I may want to go this weekend against AZ, but we’ll see…
June 30th, 2011 at 6:29 am
I HEAR U BAUCE,JUST THINK THAT IS A CHASING UR TAIL THING WITH WITH A FEW POSTER’S.IF IT WAS NOT THAT ,IT IS ANYTHING ELSE.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:32 am
If Osi comes here…man…reunited with Wauffle…that D line will be devastating. I heard though that the Giants aren’t letting him go or something like that.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Wow Chuck Reed Sj Mayor was just on…..how pitiful was that schit? Said next year they’ll have more cuts to the Police. Citizens of SJ better start strapping up now
June 30th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Hwnrdr…..if Al gives them a sweet deal and Osi is adamant he doesnt wanna deal with Coughlin anymore they will
June 30th, 2011 at 6:39 am
DIRT LOT…..theyre liars and hate the optimism many have for 2011
June 30th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Anyhow…..long day for the Bauce…..gotta get to it. Check yall later
June 30th, 2011 at 7:38 am
“next year they’ll have more cuts to the Police.”
Bauce in reality if they cut the police force all it will do is reduce crime.
You see Cops have a quota they have to issue a certain number of citations each month. Which means they are out there creating crime when they need to in order to reach their quota.
What you fail to understand as a sheep feed by the media is that these police officers are merely nothing more than glorified meter maids out there collecting money for the state. As dictated by their quota.
Police do not prevent crimes they are first responders to a crime. They are not standing there to take a bullet for you they come after the bullet has been fired.
The media sells on more fire more police when in fact we need a lot less.
If they laid off half the police force in San Jose they would still be over resourced.
Your such a simpleton for buying into their propaganda.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Huh? What??? I don’t get it.
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466.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
You know I am not much of a conspiracy theorists. In fact, I hate conspiracy theories and fail to even acknowledge their existence.
I don’t believe in any Raider conspiracies. None of them.
But researching this one……leaves me scratching my head a little.
Ron Wolf is on record saying their was a trade in place. The Bears GM at the time, it was a proposed 3-team trade, said he thought there was an agreement in place.
Eventually, no deal was made, and the Colts got less than what the Raiders were supposedly offering.
Not quite Area 51 stuff, but there seems to be some funky stuff involved here, but 1980’s NFL was a pretty funky era. You had the UFL emergence stealing players from college, player strikes, major steriod issues, teams relocating.
Just some weird times.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Only wild horses would have kept Elway from joining the SB champs, huh? He’s speaking from his CURRENT perspective, that of a career Bronco, and basing his opinion on the current Raiders. A high draft pick getting a chance to go to the SB champs is a slam dunk, anything else is revisionism.
OF COURSE he’s going to say that the Raiders are bad place to go in 2010, he’d lose popularity in Denver if he said “Sure, I might have done well as a Raider.” He’s saying what Bronco fans want to hear, and who can blame him?
What’s curious to me is that it also seems to be what certain “raider fans” around here want to hear.
Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Todd Christensen, and Tim Brown are BIG upgrades over what he had in Denver. Can you deny that? LOL, I think Elway could have found a way to be happy with those tools.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Whoaaaaa….just got a text from blog pal and 666 is calling me names now? lol
June 30th, 2011 at 7:51 am
666….simpleton? I think you need to have a better way of saying I may be misled here but simpleton I am not. Now we have been cool since I came on this blog, dont let that change cuz you know verbally I got major bars and I wont be defeated ever lol
June 30th, 2011 at 7:51 am
You see Cops have a quota they have to issue a certain number of citations each month. Which means they are out there creating crime when they need to in order to reach their quota.
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Not true.
I have some shield in my family, and work with cops on a daily basis.
There is no quota. Of course, the more tickets you write or calls you respond to, the more it looks like your working. If you ask for OT as an officer, and don’t write any tickets, they aren’t going to give you any more OT in the future, because you are not doing anything production wise.
But there is absolutely no “quota’s”.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Sorry CJ, rambling drunken post.
I think I even confused myself, lol.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Sorry Bauce I forgot that was you.
My bad I apologize.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Cuts cops it reduces crime? Do you not realize cops dont make others murder people? Do you not realize what is happening to the financial structure in America? The fkin shutdown of society is happening and people are losing it more and more each moment that passes lol. Sorry my friend but you’re way off here
June 30th, 2011 at 7:57 am
JFB
Your a tard you know nothing they all have quotas who ever told you they do not is lying to you.
Its how they justify their existence. My brother is a lawyer I know these things to be fact.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Lol its all good 666….I’m just merely stating how much trouble we are in up here in the Bay Area. Yes you possibly are correct that they may be over as far as resources go but SJ’s murder show is rivaling Oakland’s now . I mean its huge trouble…..interesting how the rest of the summer plays out
June 30th, 2011 at 8:01 am
There are no quotas? Lol alot of jobs have quotas….why wouldnt the police? That’s funny
June 30th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Bauce use your head for a minute here.
Do cops stand in front of bullets as they are fired at you?
No they are responders they come after the crime has been committed.
They do not protect you they process your complaint and the DA decides weather or not to charge you with a crime. They gather facts and present them, they do not protect you.
Just as the death penalty has done nothing to reduce the amount of murders that happen each day in America. Cops do nothing to reduce crime.
Their job is to collect revenue for the City County and State and respond to public complaints.
Crimes happen every day right under their nose.
You cant be serious?
June 30th, 2011 at 8:03 am
sorry bauce I didn’t read your last post.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:03 am
VR….ever notice how you see more cops out and about messing with people toward end of month? That’s due to quotas having to be met. This is commonly known
June 30th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I am going to end this conversation now as I like bauce and do not want to argue with the guy.
Now back to football.
If nothing can be resolved this long weekend we will lose the pre-season.
this is worthy of discussion.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I know nothing, lol.
Again, multiple shields in the family, and about 2,000 cops for clients.
No quota’s. In fact, if you want to move up the ranks, you don’t get it by writing traffic tickets. If you are the guy who writes the most tickets every month, you will be typecasted as the ticket guy, and never move up the ranks.
Sergeants, lieutanants, command chiefs, they haven’t wrote a traffic ticket in years.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Oh…666 cops aint absolved from criticism for sure cuz we keep seeing mishandlings by them whichh is even more embarrassing
June 30th, 2011 at 8:07 am
Fair enough 666….u must save your energy for the LINK and LUMP offensive architect a lil later on
June 30th, 2011 at 8:08 am
You see Cops have a quota they have to issue a certain number of citations each month. Which means they are out there creating crime when they need to in order to reach their quota.
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There are no quotas for officers. Thats a ridiculous misconception. Quotas are for retail salesman. Do you know what even a mediocre lawyer would do in court if there were actual quotas? Every person arrested in the last week of the month would be claiming they didnt break the law, that the police were just doing what the had to to hit quota, and probably HALF would be telling the truth!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:08 am
One last thing….I used to live in Saratoga and on three separate occasions people riding their bikes to my house were issued tickets by the Sheriff. One was a 14 year old girl and her father for not wearing a bike helmet.
What angers me is that we have Sheriff’s with nothing to do but issue tickets to kids on bicycles when we have missing children and gang violence that needs to be dealt with.
Ok I am done with this rant!!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Yeah 666…i was confident before not so much now about nfl labor deal…..sad….anyhow Bauce just got that call…out the door now…..and take it easy on Kell and mR today 666….i just hurt their feelings bad…..good day
June 30th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Oh yeah and Kell…u love posting my remarks about MLK and him being a marxist….boy do i got something special for you a lil later….u better say sorry now lol
June 30th, 2011 at 8:13 am
“There are no quotas for officers. Thats a ridiculous misconception”
Keep on drinking the Kool Aid Bcz24 while many children remain missing and gang violence run rampant through our streets. Your lovely officers are sitting on the expressway with their radar guns pointed at commuters and issuing tickets to 17 year old kids for smoking cigarettes.
Its called revenue generators!!
Wake up dude!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:15 am
519.Bauce Rules Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:03 am
VR….ever notice how you see more cops out and about messing with people toward end of month? That’s due to quotas having to be met. This is commonly known
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A case of perception not meeting with reality…
June 30th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Wake up dude… the issue those revenue generating tickets EVERY DAY! FYI, beat cops who get stuck on highways writing tickets are NOT DETECTIVES. Detectives look for missing kids jack ass.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Why would a cop ever issue a warning, if there is quota’s to meet and revenues to generate??
June 30th, 2011 at 8:27 am
“Detectives look for missing kids jack ass.”
Wrong derelict an entire community including beat cops are on the look out for missing children and known wanted felons.
Keep trying there sycophant and keep licking the heels of the the government by defending these lackeys.
Less police on the streets = less crime it has been proven time and time again, which is why the mayor has no problem laying a bunch of them off.
Just because you are in need of government assistance doesn’t mean the rest of us are. I myself have lived over 40 years on this planet and have never once needed the assistance of those leaches.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:29 am
“Why would a cop ever issue a warning,”
So you are claiming that you were let go with a warning?
Not in the last 10 years buddy maybe 20 years ago but that’s not the case anymore.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:29 am
gotta love the AM crew…Where’s Gabby at…coffee and breakfast?
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Hwnrdr, relax man … I got this!
Gabby, I don’t care if this is your day off. Get in the kitchen and fry my boy some eggs. bacon extra crisp. sausage patties and butter sour dough toast
out of hash browns, but we got country fried taters
coffee is only served BLACK here. Drink up, gents
June 30th, 2011 at 8:32 am
http://www.jesusradicals.com/less-police-less-crime-nyc/
and this is one of your right wing christian papers that should be for stricter sentences and tough on crime but they were smart enough to do a little research first.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:32 am
666,
I don’t get tickets. Have been let off 2 speeding tickets in the last 4 months.
My business card is a get out jail free card.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Less police on the streets = less crime
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I thought trickle-down doesn’t work??
June 30th, 2011 at 8:37 am
I’ve been pulled over 5 times for going like 5 or 10 miles over the speed limit.
I’ve been pulled over another 3 or 4 times to running a stop sign (actually treating it like a yield). slow down to like 5mph, look both ways and keep going
thats what you call cops who have nothing better to do. that crap doesn’t protect my safety or anybody elses. Probably why most of those pull overs have just resulted in a warning
Sorry – I know this doesn’t have to do with quotas, but I think cops should go where the danger is. If the highlight of your day as an officer is yelling at some fat kid for throwing a McDonalds wrapper out the window … there’s something wrong here, especially when it’s known to most citizens in a city places that aren’t safe and you don’t ever see cop cars when you drive by there regularly
June 30th, 2011 at 8:38 am
More police = more government in our daily lives….I thought you people were for less government in our lives?
June 30th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Nearly all cops know better than to seek out violent crime as it is happening. They became cops because they need authority over people to compensate for inner fear and weakness, not to fight crime.
No way do they confront dangerous people, who won’t play the “yes sir” game. They’d rather hassle simple folk and go home self-satisfied than get shot up.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:40 am
534.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:29 am
gotta love the AM crew…Where’s Gabby at…coffee and breakfast?
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Hwnrdr, relax man … I got this!
Gabby, I don’t care if this is your day off. Get in the kitchen and fry my boy some eggs. bacon extra crisp. sausage patties and butter sour dough toast
out of hash browns, but we got country fried taters
coffee is only served BLACK here. Drink up, gents
LOL…Thanks Rockstar!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:40 am
“but I think cops should go where the danger is. If the highlight of your day as an officer is yelling at some fat kid for throwing a McDonalds wrapper out the window ”
Which is exactly what I have been trying to point out.
Thank you.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Why would cops even bother to go in the hood??
Nobody there talks to them to help them out solving crimes, so if they act like they don’t want to their help, than they shouldn’t get it.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Less police on the streets = less crime
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Interesting… im just waiting for you to tell me that less fireman = less fires, and less hospitals = less sick people.
Less cops = less criminals punished, not less crimes committed.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:43 am
My business card is a get out jail free card
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JFB,
you try a sales pitch when the officer comes to your window?
JFB – “Thank you for protecting me from myself officer, now let me protect you. Have you signed up for Life Insurance and Short Term Disability? Have you started planning for the future? We have some great retirement packages”
Officer – “get out of here kid.”
June 30th, 2011 at 8:43 am
75% of Oakland’s city budget goes to fire and police.
75% man think about that, no where else can you find that drastic of measures being taken to line the streets with cop cars and what has that done for the City of Oakland?
What exactly has that accomplished for Oakland? Is there less crime in Oakland?
June 30th, 2011 at 8:43 am
I’ve actually been pulled over a few times, and within the last 2 years and let off with a warning. Luckily for me, the last time, the CHP Officer was getting off of work and really DID NOT want to do paper work. So, not arguing about quota…just saying that people do get off with warnings still…
June 30th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Same with govt. firefighters too 666. Get rid of ALL of them. We’ll have less fires.
And piss on homeowners who can’t protect their house. You can’t hire a fire team? Burn your state to ashes like TX and AZ. Don’t spend my taxes keeping your dusty ass house from the flames.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Rockstar,
You need to slow down and obey all traffic signs!!!!
What should we do, allow fat kids to throw McDonalds wrappers anywhere they want to??
If people had more cooth in this country, nobody would litter and thus no one would need to patrol.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:46 am
“Less cops = less criminals punished, not less crimes committed.”
And more cops = more revenue for the state not more criminals punished!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Cooth. LOL.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:48 am
What exactly has that accomplished for Oakland? Is there less crime in Oakland?
666…I remember working on 98th Ave at that United Rentals there on the corner of Edes and 98th. One Saturday morning, we were late opening the store by 3 hours because some cop had his gun wrestled away from him and used on him. Not funny, but funny in a sense. This guys is supposed to be protecting the streets of Oakland? The police shut down the streets while they tried to find the gun…so yeah…I agree with you. that guy probably hit the train tracks and disappeared!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Thank you for protecting me from myself officer, now let me protect you.
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That’s a pretty good lead-in!!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:48 am
469.armond Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
its funny that some in here think im crazy for wanting to give up future #1’s and a couple of extra picks for luck next year yet al davis tried to make a similar move for elway 2 decades ago. guess im not that crazy after all. i say try that elway type of trade again next year for the next great stanford qb since horse face. then our offense would really be sick. luck dmc bush miller ford reece jones. damn just think if dhb and chaz would join the party. get er done al!!!
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Coach Davis should ALWAYS give up his #1 picks and get more syemour type caliber players.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:49 am
So is Shaq gonna become a full-time cop now like he promised? One of the many reasons I had no respect for the clown. A foot shorter and he’s baggin groceries…
June 30th, 2011 at 8:51 am
If people had more cooth in this country, nobody would litter and thus no one would need to patrol.
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no worries, Baby Rockstar will be polite & well mannered
and hopefully he wont be such a “rebel” like Daddy
June 30th, 2011 at 8:54 am
I haven’t got a ticket in about 7 or 8 years. But what bothers me is that I pay taxes then pay state taxes, then pay tax on everything I buy. I then pay the DMV for tabs for my car and pay a toll to cross a bridge.
The last thing I need is to be pulled over for having bad tail light and get a $200 ticket when I have already gave the state enough of my damn money!
Not saying this has happened to me but it happens all day long.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:57 am
542.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:40 am
“but I think cops should go where the danger is. If the highlight of your day as an officer is yelling at some fat kid for throwing a McDonalds wrapper out the window ”
Which is exactly what I have been trying to point out.
Thank you.
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So really what you are saying is those areas need MORE cops? Isnt that counterproductive to your less cops less crime theory?
June 30th, 2011 at 8:58 am
hate to change the topic of the convo and run, but I think criminals might think twice about commiting so many crimes if every state strictly enforced the death penalty. And I don’t mean an electric chair or an injection … I mean a bullet or a rope (Podunk style)
sitting in a jail cell keeps many thugs from getting whacked in their normal surroundings. Wasting money on them for food & shelter. Then they get released and many become repeat offenders because they get used to being in jail and can’t cope in the real world. Get a job, pay taxes, obey the law. There’s more to life than just “make sure you don’t bend over in the shower” some probably have kids so here comes child support and parents & siblings disappointed in them
June 30th, 2011 at 8:58 am
666, don’t most tail light type tickets just require you to show you got a repair? How it works here in IL…they just want a reason to pull you over to toss your car. Same as the seat belt law.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:59 am
The last thing I need is to be pulled over for having bad tail light and get a $200 ticket when I have already gave the state enough of my damn money!
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Equipment violations give you 24 hours to provide proof of getting the issue fixed (in the case of a light outage, a receipt for a bulb will suffice) and there is NO charge. The ticket is dropped. If you pay $200 for an equipment violation then you are dumb ass for not fixing the issue.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:01 am
“So really what you are saying is those areas need MORE cops? Isnt that counterproductive to your less cops less crime theory?”
No this is about redistributing resources where they are needed not adding more of a burden to the City or state.
Man you are one dense uneducated person if you cant see that!
June 30th, 2011 at 9:04 am
I think criminals might think twice about commiting so many crimes if every state strictly enforced the death penalty. And I don’t mean an electric chair or an injection … I mean a bullet or a rope
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Surprise, another “Christian” who believes he knows who should live and die. You are a bad rep for your messiah.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:04 am
“Equipment violations give you 24 hours to provide proof of getting the issue fixed (in the case of a light outage, a receipt for a bulb will suffice) ”
OK so the broken tail light was a bad example but if you are so narrow minded that you chose to focus on that and miss the point entirely then maybe you are not mentally capable of seeing the point in the first place which was GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY POCKET!!
June 30th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I used to believe in the death penalty, but all of the cases that have been reversed in the past 10 years thanks to DNA testing have given me pause. It demonstrates that the legal system has too many flaws to be used to determine if someone’s life should end.
If we send one innocent person to die for every 100 guilty POS criminals that deserve it, it is still unacceptable to me. Give them life w/o the possibility of parole.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:18 am
562.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:01 am
“So really what you are saying is those areas need MORE cops? Isnt that counterproductive to your less cops less crime theory?”
No this is about redistributing resources where they are needed not adding more of a burden to the City or state.
Man you are one dense uneducated person if you cant see that!
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You contradict yourself and call me uneducated? Tactics of a loser.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I agree with you on the premise that it is NOT ok for one innocent person to die Dakota. DNA evidence is used in less than 1% of criminal trials. It is ridiculous that this tool is available, yet so under utilized.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I didn’t contradict myself I let you prove my point. The fact that you are so narrow minded and entrenched in your beliefs shows that you cannot see outside of your own little world.
More like the tactics of a person who cannot see outside his own narrow minded beliefs.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Death penalty should only be used for people who plead guilty.
But iff they do plead quilty of murder, within 1 year they should be resting with the worms.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Just heard that LegoLand made a life size lego of Dirk Nowitzki…wtf?
June 30th, 2011 at 9:52 am
The best thing about living in New Mexico??
Cost to register my 2009 Sonata?
$45
For 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 9:54 am
The legal system is in place for the following reasons:
1. To resolve disputes that cannot be resolved by the individuals involved in them. (example the current labor dispute, divorce, law suits etc.)
2. To punish people who commit crimes.
This system is very costly and therefore needs revenue generated to pay for themselves and justify their existence.
The problem is that the resources are poorly allocated. If you were to take a group of cops that are harassing teenagers for smoking cigarettes and put them in a high crime area to curb gang violence then you would not have people like me saying adding more cops will not solve the crime problem.
Its not rocket science Bcz24 its common sense.
Again I reiterate that Oakland has spent 75% of its money on police and fire and that has not curbed the amount of murders that happen there each year.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:56 am
JFB
I have a friend in New Mexico and he says that a lot of people wear guns on their belts. I doubt there is a lot of home burglaries or car jacking in that state if that is true.
I do not know this for a fact as I do not live there.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Absolutely, very common to see people packing heat at the grocery store.
Crime is still an issue, but you don’t hear of too many deaths that aren’t either gang-related or some type of domestic issue.
DUI’s are the major issue out here. About damn near everyday (tragically) there is some type of DUI related death on the roads, and it is usually someone with 1 or 2 previous DUI’s.
Remember, we share a border with Texas.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:02 am
571.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 9:52 am
The best thing about living in New Mexico??
Cost to register my 2009 Sonata?
$45
For 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sonata huh?
Our Caddy with the blown head gasket finally crapped out on us, so we have been looking for a car the last few days and we test drove a 2011 Sonata (totally revamped from the 09 and 10 version). Nice ride…and loaded with features.
Just one problem….if you take your hand off of the wheel it shoots to the left. And this isn’t some road crown issue, or torque pull, or alignment issue…..they have not figured it out yet.
So instead we purchased a 2008 Camry XLE with the pedal of death issue lol.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:05 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/982/elway-worried-for-russell-hammers-raiders
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Nice job KK. As pro JR as I am, you’d think I would have posted this years ago. This is the biggest reason I’m so pissed about JR being cut. Elway and others predicted it wouldn’t work, and they were proven right. I respect Elway’s opinion on Russell more than Gannon’s. Gannon was a scrub out of college they tried to move to DB. Had a journeyman career. Elway understood JR’s situation as a highly touted high school player that didn’t disappoint in college, and was picked #1 overall to a terrible team. I agree with Elway that in the right situation, Russell can be a star. I wanted the Raiders to do things right so that it could happen here. The Raiders failed.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:07 am
“Remember, we share a border with Texas.”
I used to be a musician and I had to travel to Austin Texas once a year for SXSW.
The thing that I thought was cool was the drive through liquor stores and you can drink in a car as long as you are not the one driving. However I think they would frown on pot smoking there.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Camrys are very nice Dakota. My brother (now his wife has it) has an 08. I love that car! I was kinda mad he gave it to her instead of selling it to me lol
June 30th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Last time my ladies and I partied in Cabo one of our security guards got wasted on quesadillas and tried to give a stripper a reach around.
He got thrown in the slam overnight and learned his lesson big time.
Point being, if you commit the crime, you gotta do the time. Dude promised to only eat taquitos and give strippers the Shocker after that.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am
What was in that quesadilla?
June 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am
The ‘11 Sonata is much sportier than mine.
Although I got the Vegas limo tint on mine before I moved to NM, which helps it not look too grandma-ish.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Just your classic cheese, smoked serrano chiles, light tomatillo salsa in a delicate flour tortilla. But he was eating them inter-rectally.
Any of you nerds see the Vanity Fair article on the McCourts? Need a link and quick. The PARTYBRO 8500 is warming up and I gotta head down to the spa soon for a massage.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Its kinda funny, the ‘11 Sonata hybrid looks sportier than the ‘11 Sonata Turbo
June 30th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Drive-thru liquor stores have been out of existence for a few years.
Not sure that was a good idea to begin with.
June 30th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Kind of curious why Brandon Lloyd was the guy to talk about Nnamdi.
How long has he been in the AFC West?? A year or two.
They should have had someone from the Chargers or something like that.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:03 am
They have drive thru liqour stores in every other community here in Jax. Along with strip clubs galore!
The poor economy and raising of sales tax on liqour/beer and tabacco didn’t put a dent in these buisnesses. LoL
June 30th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Drive-thru liquor stores have been out of existence for a few years.
Not sure that was a good idea to begin with.
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Yeah good point. That whole business model flew right in the face of the whole matra of not drinking and driving….
June 30th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Good Morning Nation!
My tranny went out,soo no work 2day
IMO jascittlesyurp didnt work out 4 many reasons and its all on him.Cable benched him cause he was lost,the players knew it and we all saw it.
This is where Big Al turns into a Big Dummy,Meathead.cable knew we would never win with jascittlesyurp,so…Enter Grads the Great and we started to turn the corner,even though we had 2 rookie WR’s and a patchwork OL AND were soft up the gut on D.
Cable has Grads penciled in at QB 4 next year and goes out and gets the best OLmen that he knows cant miss with the TEAM he was building.I am so impressed with our new OL and they show Cables personality and no non-sense bust -a-jaw attitude.Cable was the best coach we had sinse Flores’ and might have been better than Tom.
But Big Al Big Dummy Meathead didnt,4 whatever reason went out and got JCampbell and inserted him at QB without ever taking a snap.Talk about messing with the chemistry we were gettin and goo backward with a new qb.
CFord is going 2 do 4 DHB what Malcolm Barnwell did 4 Cliff Branch,just watch.
As I said,I’m VERY PROUD of our OLINE that Tom Cable has put together.We gonna stuff it down their throats.
p.s.
We sweep the division and Cable gets canned….Big Dummy Meathead Big Al
June 30th, 2011 at 11:27 am
drinking and driving is fun I would highly recommend it to any of you hard core fans out there.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Nice article in SB Nation on Marcel Reece. I knew he was a transformational FUll-back but I did not know his stats were that off the chart outside of blocking. WOW!!!!
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Marcel “The Beast” Reece: A Problem in the Making
by Back2blk on Jun 18, 2011 5:49 AM PDT
33 comments Email Print.There has been a great deal of talk about the resurgence of the Oakland Raiders in practically all forms of media. This is arguably the best Raiders teams in 10 years.
The limelight has been handed to the likes of Lamar Houston, Jacoby Ford, Rolando McClain and Jared Veldheer who stepped in as rookies and made an instant impact on the team and contributed to the turnaround. Although he wasn’t a rookie, Marcel Reece, in his first year as a starter with the Raiders, hasn’t drawn much attention from the fans and sports analysts, but will become a major issue for defenses for years to come. Jump over….
What makes Reece such a special player is that at the position of fullback, very few plays are designed for the position. This is because their primary roll is to block for the Running Back. Though he has been criticized for his blocking, Reece is far from your typical Fullback. He is an extremely explosive offensive weapon which the NFL hasn’t seen in this position in over 20 years.
Coming out of the backfield, Reece averaged 4.1 yards per carry. Not only is that is equivalent with Michael Bush, but it’s a better average than Ray Rice, Reggie Bush, Dominic Rhodes and Rashard Mendenhall. Reece also runs a 4.4 in the 40 and that’s carrying 240 lbs.
As a receiver, he ended the year averaging 13.3 yards per catch. What is ridiculous is that he had a better average than Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Mark Clayton and Hines Ward. Yes, he had fewer receptions and carries than those he is compared to, but that should let you know to some degree what he is capable of.
Marcel Reece is another cog in the machine that the Raiders are building. There are people throughout sports who come out of the woodwork to speak negatively about Al Davis and the Raiders. He has transformed the Raiders and the entire game of football in the process. His ideas are duplicated by every team in the NFL (i.e. the vertical game and the usage of the TE as a primary receiver). I think he is at it again with another position. This time it’s the Fullback position and Marcel Reece will be the beneficiary.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am
They have drive-thru liquor stores here in Ohio, Columbus area for sure. I love em man! Drive right in get a cold one a bag of chips and drive out.
You have a babe in the car and she is ready to go. Don’t mess up the mood drive by pick up a bottle of cheap wine, a lil liqour and head straight to the cut!
Bang-bang!!!
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584.Just Fire Baby Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Drive-thru liquor stores have been out of existence for a few years.
Not sure that was a good idea to begin with.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:38 am
4EvaRaider-
This is interesting. How do you think C FOrd is going to help out DHB? I thought DHB was suppose to stretch the field to help out the other WR’s.
CFord is going 2 do 4 DHB what Malcolm Barnwell did 4 Cliff Branch,just watch.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:38 am
4eva…what’s up man? Long time….
June 30th, 2011 at 11:39 am
I have a buddy that got fired on his day off because he had some alcohol in his system. He got tore up the night before cause he had the next day off. He went to sign some papers at work that day and they smelt the booze and gave him a swab test. Needles to say he got fired on his day off and they told him they would call the police if he tried to operate his vehicle to drive home. Talk about a bad day!
June 30th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Deja Vu…wow!
June 30th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Yeah Hwnrdr, stupid move on his part. I still rip on him till this day for getting fired on his day off! ha ha
June 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I really like the idea of having another weapon on offense in Reece. Adds another dimension to the O and has to be accounted for.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Surprise, another “Christian” who believes he knows who should live and die. You are a bad rep for your messiah.
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BSJ,
When did I say that I know who should live or die?
It’s not a matter or WHO dies, but HOW they die imo
the cost of providing food & shelter to somebody plus the kill expense is ridiculous. We could save that money by using a rope or gun. That’s all i’m saying
and a member of the victim’s family should have the opporuntity to pull the trigger.
I don’t know why you bring my faith into this topic of conversation. People got executed in Biblical times (see Jesus)
June 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Kind of curious why Brandon Lloyd was the guy to talk about Nnamdi.
How long has he been in the AFC West?? A year or two.
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JFB,
You’re right. Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe would have been more appropriate, but they’re always being covered by Routt or CJ37 (wherever Nnamdi isn’t)
June 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I mean Jocoby Ford CJ,sorry…Hi Hwnrdr Bro!….
CJ,Clif’f Branch early on dropped catchable balls,ran wrong routes and was learning the position AND played like it.To much pressure 4a young WR and Freddie doing incredable things on the side of the field.In steps Malcolm Barnwell in the slot and KA-BOOM! Barnwell’s awesome speed opened up the field 4 Branch who was just hitting his stride into Raider History.JFord runs a 4.23.He must be accounted 4 at all times,soo he will take the pressure off DHB so he can hit his own stride into Raider lore.Man with this oline and WR’s and RB’s the future finally looks pretty good,imo
June 30th, 2011 at 11:57 am
I did not know his stats were that off the chart outside of blocking.
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CJL,
A fullback that can’t block has the same value as a receiver that can’t catch or a quarterback that can’t throw imo
June 30th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
WOW!… they still let u in RaiderRockstar!?!?!?!
Hope all is well with everyone and long live Big Al!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I agree with Elway that in the right situation, Russell can be a star. I wanted the Raiders to do things right so that it could happen here. The Raiders failed.
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Debo,
did you catch my comment at you yesterday?
curious to have your opinion of posts #336 & #338
June 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
WOW!… they still let u in RaiderRockstar!?!?!?!
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LOL, what’s up 4eva?
how u been man?
June 30th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
work now and then RRS but still S-L-O-W workwise still,but still hangin’
Hope your family is doing well gotta love those 2am feedings!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Hwnrdr, you hear from dirt lot?
June 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I think the Raiders should draft Pryor & pick up Terrell Owens in free agency …
do whatever it takes to retain Bush & Miller.
I’m not sure what the contract status of Reece & Satele are (offered tenders) either, but they should be brought back pretty cheap & easy-like
If Gallery, Barnes, Walker & Henderson don’t find new teams I think a few of them might do well as back ups in Oakland. We need veteran depth there
These agenda items would go a long way towards fixing the offense imo.
June 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Hope your family is doing well gotta love those 2am feedings!!!
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4eva,
Baby Rockstar is almost 8 months old now. He sits up on his own, scoots backwards, flips like crazy and mumbles a lot. Can feed himself with a bottle (holds it himself). Loves when we feed him baby food in his high chair. He’s been sleeping all night for 5 months now
Still waiting on the little fella to crawl & talk.
June 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I know its like how can anyone not score behind Walker on the goal-line?
June 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
4Eva…yeah, he popped in this morning. He comes in and out these days!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Thats wonderfull news RRS!!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I agree with everything in post 607 RRS, except bringing in TO. Why sign him if he won’t be available until Nov? We may not be bringing in any FA if we’re over the cap. Hopefully this CBA get’s resolved by next week!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
4evaRaider I sure hope you are right bro. I do think we have the weapons on offense to be pretty explosive this year. If DHB gets up to form we could have a huge year on offense. But alot of what ifs on the o-line.
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600.4evaRaider Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I mean Jocoby Ford CJ,sorry…Hi Hwnrdr Bro!….
CJ,Clif’f Branch early on dropped catchable balls,ran wrong routes and was learning the position AND played like it.To much pressure 4a young WR and Freddie doing incredable things on the side of the field.In steps Malcolm Barnwell in the slot and KA-BOOM! Barnwell’s awesome speed opened up the field 4 Branch who was just hitting his stride into Raider History.JFord runs a 4.23.He must be accounted 4 at all times,soo he will take the pressure off DHB so he can hit his own stride into Raider lore.Man with this oline and WR’s and RB’s the future finally looks pretty good,imo
June 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RR
I don’t get that move brother. Pryor is not a natural passer he struggles to throw out patterns and come backs. I watched him his whole career at OSU. I went to the Miami game his focus was down the middle of the field. He missed a lot of open WR in the flats. Now he can run like the wind but we both know you can’t do that stuff in the NFL.
TO for cheap may not be bad but he is coming off an ACL tear and we have enough issues with Chaz the glas Schilens.
Lastly, what can Pryor do that Jason Campbell is not capable of doing right now besides running for his life out thte pocket. : )
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607.RaiderRockstar Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I think the Raiders should draft Pryor & pick up Terrell Owens in free agency …
do whatever it takes to retain Bush & Miller.
I’m not sure what the contract status of Reece & Satele are (offered tenders) either, but they should be brought back pretty cheap & easy-like
If Gallery, Barnes, Walker & Henderson don’t find new teams I think a few of them might do well as back ups in Oakland. We need veteran depth there
These agenda items would go a long way towards fixing the offense imo.
June 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Dam…things 2do.have a great day Nation!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
ATLANTA (AP)—The mother of Terrell Owens’ child says the NFL star has refused to pay the full $5,000 a month in child support he owes.
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Al gonna help a brother out? I’ll pass, we already have a broken down wr on the roster.
June 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 8:43 am
75% of Oakland’s city budget goes to fire and police.
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About the same for every city.
June 30th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Everyone geared up to watch the last Glenn Beck show here in a few hours?
June 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
“About the same for every city.”
You cant be serious?
June 30th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I agree with Elway that in the right situation, Russell can be a star. I wanted the Raiders to do things right so that it could happen here. The Raiders failed.
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Debo,
did you catch my comment at you yesterday?
curious to have your opinion of posts #336 & #338
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Top three landing spots for JR:
1. Washington Redskins: Supposedly very impressive in his workout there last year. People love to talk about Shanahan loving the mobile guys. But he loved Jay Cutler’s arm strength. Would love to see JR with an offensive mind like Shanny vs the mindless Tom Cable.
2. Philadelphia Eagles: This one makes too much sense. His mentor, Phil Savage, is a team consultant. Andy Reid isn’t afraid of the media backlash. Mike Vick, another former #1 overall phenom who fell from grace, is the perfect mentor. Weapons galore. This is the one I want to see most.
3. Miami Dolphins: Worked out there last year. Supposedly told friends he’d be signing there this offseason. If he’s signed, Chad Henne is a goner.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
“About the same for every city”
Really because in Los Angeles its about 40%
http://cao.lacity.org/bud2011-12/2011-12Proposed_Budget.pdf
June 30th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Look fellas JR’s problem is JR! He blew all his chances at the NFL. Strong arm or not he is just not dedicated to make it int he pros. I defeended him more than the next person but when your “Life Coach” fires you.
You ain’t $#!T flat out!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
In Berkeley its 24%
http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=4402
June 30th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
“He blew all his chances at the NFL. Strong arm or not he is just not dedicated to make it int he pros”
That is how I feel as well.
lastly if you are and addict you will have problems with the commitment the NFL demands.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
The # 1 landing spot for JR will be without a doubt, will be the hit NBC reality program:
“THE BIGGEST LOSER.”
Print that!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
The # 1 landing spot for JR will be…..in bankruptcy court after he burns through his money.
Print that!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Look fellas JR’s problem is JR! He blew all his chances at the NFL. Strong arm or not he is just not dedicated to make it int he pros. I defeended him more than the next person but when your “Life Coach” fires you.
You ain’t $#!T flat out!
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Find me ONE quote from John Lucas where he said he “fired JR”. What a joke!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
To all of you Campbell haters he is not Russell and he is the future. He is going to have a break out season next year. WIth our weapons on offense and the way he can get them ball in open space to make plays is what we need. He is a rythm player and he is making plays.
Print that!
http://oak.scout.com/2/1083592.html
June 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Here ya go…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/14/jamarcus-russell-life-coach-john-lucas_n_849376.html
June 30th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
RaiderDebbie is back defending JaMarcus.
Here is some advice for you, get your own UFL franchise and sign the guy.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Wassup 4eva!
Cable sucked and so did Grads!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
“About the same for every city”
Really because in Los Angeles its about 40%
http://cao.lacity.org/bud2011-12/2011-12Proposed_Budget.pdf
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I don’t see that.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Cable should have been fired for impersonating a NFL OCO…
June 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
“I don’t see that.”
You have to do some math as it is not clearly spelled out for you like the Berkeley chart I posted for you.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I can get more charts for you KK from cities other than Berkeley if you want me to.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
“But you have to look at this long-term,” he said. “It saves money. There’s no question about it. If a city can achieve a 5 to 10 percent savings, it’s significant.”
Police and fire costs can translate to as much as 75 percent of a municipality’s budget. Kalamazoo, with about 75,000 residents, is the largest city in the state with a public safety department.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110620/METRO/106200357/Cities-find-combining-police-and-fire-services-saves-money#ixzz1QnH8FRiG
June 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Didn’t Barkley tell JR that he was good for nothing also?
June 30th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Top spenders
Howell said police and fire departments are some of the biggest spenders.
“Because that’s where the people are,” Howell said. “The money you spend is largely focused on people who deliver the services. And if you look at the police department, it’s the largest department in terms of people.”
Fire is second, excluding utilities, which are self supporting and do not require tax dollars. Then comes public works, which includes sanitation and streets.
“That’s the bulk of the budget,” Howell said. “The rest of it’s a small percentage compared to those main areas. Police and fire…if you look at that percentage alone, it’s a significant part of that $17 million budget,” he said. “The basic services that people want are what most cities spend their money on.”
June 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Daly City 57%
http://davidcanepa.com/?paged=2
Berkeley 24%
Oakland 75%
June 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Divided Santa Rosa City Council approves budget
While their overall portion of the general fund will remain 60 percent, the police and fire departments were asked to do less, as a percentage of their budgets, than other departments to come up with the $2.5 million in cuts to close the budget gap.
http://santarosa.towns.pressdemocrat.com/2011/06/news/divided-santa-rosa-city-council-approves-budget/
June 30th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Thec07 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Here ya go…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/14/jamarcus-russell-life-coach-john-lucas_n_849376.html
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I repeat: one QUOTE from Lucas.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Ann Arbor MI 41%
http://www.annarbor.com/news/have-an-opinion-on-ann-arbors-proposed-city-budget-here-are-a-few-ways-to-weigh-in/
So you are wrong dude its not the norm. Just because you can show a few rare instances in Cities like Detroit or Oakland does not mean it is the norm.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
FERNDALE – Top city officials say there is no way to avoid significant cuts to police and fire services if voters reject an upcoming millage hike.
Police Chief Timothy Collins and Fire Chief Kevin Sullivan recently outlined for city officials what their departments will look like if they have to cut from 15 percent to 20 percent of their budgets this year alone.
“It is grim,” said Mayor Dave Coulter. “The messages we got from the police and fire chiefs were very sobering.”
Roughly two-thirds of the city’s budget is used to support the two public safety departments, which have more employees than any other departments.
http://www.dailytribune.com/articles/2011/04/19/news/doc4dadd325dec17788982521.txt
June 30th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
I don’t get that move brother. Pryor is not a natural passer he struggles to throw out patterns and come backs. I watched him his whole career at OSU. I went to the Miami game his focus was down the middle of the field. He missed a lot of open WR in the flats. Now he can run like the wind but we both know you can’t do that stuff in the NFL.
TO for cheap may not be bad but he is coming off an ACL tear and we have enough issues with Chaz the glas Schilens.
Lastly, what can Pryor do that Jason Campbell is not capable of doing right now besides running for his life out the pocket.
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CJL:
Pryor (like any rookie QB) will need some development. I’d feel much better with a youngster waiting in the wings, since JCamp is a free agent after the season. JC was benched 3 times last year and banged up a few others. If nothing else, we could use a better backup QB than Boller or Frye. If Campbell has a career year, re-sign him and label him your “franchise QB”. Taking a flyer on Pryor in RD3 of the supp draft in no way guarantees he’ll get to compete for the starting job in Year #1 or #2.
Owens is a vet with all the confidence and all the accolades in the world. I don’t care about him wanting the ball or being a shell of his former self. I don’t even care that he’s coming off of an injury. He’ll be ready by Preseason (if there is one) – WK1 of the reg season at the latest. If by chance T.O. isn’t healthy by Week 1 then we’re essentially in the same boat we’re in now with a bunch of unproven youngsters at WR and the go-to guy might be TE Zach Miller (FA?)
both low risk / high reward moves imo
June 30th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Tucon AZ 19%
Bufffalo 12%
http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/new-york/11101d1196717403-buffalo-schools-city-budget-cobgraph2.jpg
Come on man you have to admit your are off KK
June 30th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
“Roughly two-thirds of the city’s budget is used to support the two public safety departments, which have more employees than any other departments.”
Roughly 66% is in no way comparable to 75%
To use your own example against you!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
There is a higher crime rate in Oakland than Buffalo and Oakland uses 75% of their budget on police and fire and Buffalo uses 12%
Explain THAT!
June 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Roughly 66% is in no way comparable to 75%
To use your own example against you!
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I disagree.
June 30th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Oakland is one of the Crime Capitals of the United States.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
631.J Hill Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Wassup 4eva!
Cable sucked and so did Grads!
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633.Thec07 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Cable should have been fired for impersonating a NFL OCO…
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Why didn’t you guys have my back on Cable after that first year debacle? What gives?
June 30th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
“Roughly 66% is in no way comparable to 75%
To use your own example against you!
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I disagree.”
So math and numbers mean nothing to you?
My work is done here……
June 30th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I repeat: one QUOTE from Lucas.
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Actions speak louder than words.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Oakland #28 on Murder Rate List.
http://www.faqs.org/shareranks/994,Highest-Murder-Rate-US-Cities
June 30th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Tom Cable will be assistant coach of the year in 2011.
Print that.
(If there was such an award, lol)
June 30th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
“Roughly 66% is in no way comparable to 75%
To use your own example against you!
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I disagree.”
So math and numbers mean nothing to you?
My work is done here……
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Bye.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Scabowski will be in the NoFL in 2011
Print that.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The A’s traded Mark Ellis to the Rockies? South Dakota boy gets closer to home!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Bruce will start a game in 2011, somewhere in the NFL.
Book it.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
“Oakland is one of the Crime Capitals of the United States.”
“Oakland #28 on Murder Rate List.”
Come on which is it are they the crime capitol or are they #28?
Again your numbers do not add up. I am guessing that you have no mathematical skills whatsoever.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
657.Dakota Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The A’s traded Mark Ellis to the Rockies? South Dakota boy gets closer to home!
What? oh boy, here we go again….
Check you all later fellas!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
The Economy and Direction of the Country
Most disapprove of how President @bama is dealing with the economy, but few Americans
blame him for its current condition, which some think he inherited. Only 8% think the @bama
administration deserves most of the blame for the state of the nation’s economy. More say
George W. Bush’s administration (26%) and Wall Street and financial institutions (25%) are
mostly to blame. 11% blame Congress.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
“Most disapprove of how President @bama is dealing with the economy”
I disapprove how you do math!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
When was that poll taken KK???? March of 2009?
June 30th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
“Oakland is one of the Crime Capitals of the United States.”
“Oakland #28 on Murder Rate List.”
Come on which is it are they the crime capitol or are they #28?
Again your numbers do not add up. I am guessing that you have no mathematical skills whatsoever.
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“ONE” of the Murder Capitals, I said.
Now go change you diaper dumbass.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I wish ND WR Michael Floyd would enter into the supplemental draft….I’d spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on him. The dude is awesome. Just make sure he goes to his aftercare program!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Raiders are a much better team with Gradkowski as the starter rather than Campbell.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
71% of Republican voters unsatisfied with Republican candidates for president
June 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
How is #28 one of the capitols….if they were in the top 10 I could go with you there Einstein.
KK give it up man you lost, the facts are not supporting your ignorance.
Math is not your strong suit try knitting or needle point!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
No T.O. and No Chad I domn’t want their garbage here we have young impressionable kids who need positive leadership. Those two might be HOF WR’s but HOS(Hall Of Shame) leaders. Tooo many outside interest…football is 10th on their list of interest.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
667.KoolKell Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
71% of Republican voters unsatisfied with Republican candidates for president
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That’s the truth.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
“71% of Republican voters unsatisfied with Republican candidates for president”
And 99% of the people on this Blog think you are retarded and now know that you cannot add!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
671.Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
“71% of Republican voters unsatisfied with Republican candidates for president”
And 99% of the people on this Blog think you are retarded and now know that you cannot add!
________________
That’s the truth too.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
And 99% of the people on this Blog think you are retarded and now know that you cannot add!
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You can only speak for yourself, and the other monikers you speak with, Troll.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Dakota agrees do you now think that he and I are the same?
June 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Major Karl Rove Donor Ken Langone On Debt Negotiations: ‘I Should Pay More Taxes
In Feb. 2010, Karl Rove and operatives from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce convened a meeting of mostly Wall Street titans to fund a set of Republican groups designed to run attacks on Democrats. Ken Langone, a wealthy Wall Street investor and controversial former head of the New York Stock Exchange, was one of the very first major donors to the Rove campaign groups, which now include American Action Network, American Action Forum, American Crossroads, and American Crossroads GPS.
Yesterday on the Fox Business Network, Langone was asked by host Lou Dobbs about how to kickstart the economy. Langone repeatedly said high unemployment is the greatest problem, but conceded that corporations are doing better than ever. To get things going, Langone explained, everyone would have to feel “pain.” In a sharp contrast with his friend Karl Rove, Langone said wealthy guys like him “should pay more taxes”:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Dakota agrees do you now think that he and I are the same?
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666/Oakglen, Dumb Beech, BrownStains, Brien, Richochet. I’ve always been unpopular with the Trolls in here.
I helped get this blog registered.
As far as the Al Davis bootlicking society, well, I’m a critic. Get over it.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
666,
Strange how people think you are a troll. I know you are not. You have been in here for years and the way you write is unlike any of those other guys. Kinda funny actually.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Yeah 99.9 pct know that 666……only MR digs Kell’s posts
June 30th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Should someone like Langone, who has had years earning over $25 million a year pay more taxes?? Of course.
But not people making 250K a year. It should be people making at least a million a year with the tax hike.
Of course many of these high earners, like the Warren Buffet’s of the world, funnel there income through investments that are taxed at the cap gains rate, which is only 15%.
Problem with raising the cap gains rate, it will negatively effect everyone with a 401K. Mutual funds make up almost 80% of all 401K money, and mutual funds have things called embedded capital gains. You raise the cap gains rate, you decrease the returns of everyone’s retirement money.
You let the Bush tax cuts expire, it will raise everyone’s taxes, and adversely effect the lowest income earners. There taxes would go from the current 10% to the previous 15%, which would be a 50% increase in their tax rate.
Why this admin waited until the midnight hour to try to change the tax code, and than threw up their hands and just said extend the Bush cuts was a major fly in the ointment for BO.
Now what will he do this year? Wait until the very end of the year again? Probably, and than do nothing until he sees if he is re-elected.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
“I helped get this blog registered”!!
Krappy, that’s one of your all time greatest quotes! Second only to “I’m a blog personality”.
Old goat, you just keep entertaining! Don’t ever change!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
SANTORUM IS VERY UPSET WITH @BAMA FOR ATTACKING PRIVATE JET TAX OWNERS | “Ugly,” “divisive,” and “acrimon[ious]” — that’s how GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum described President @bama’s press conference yesterday, in which he called for ending a tax break for corporate jet purchases. A visibly angry Santorum told Fox News host Greta Van Susteren that @bama’s targeting of corporate jet owners defies the candidate’s pledge to bring Americans together:
http://thinkprogress.org/
June 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Bingo!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
You b-tched and cried like a bz because everyone would roast you on a daily basis Kell. They even booted you off and you begged to get back on. I never begged and still call Jerry and Jon punks!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Dakota
Its an easy out when people like KK are confronted with facts and things they cannot dispute for them go ahead and claim I am a troll.
You and I have emailed in the past so you know who I am. but like you said I seriously doubt anyone else writes like I do.
I just go with it and enjoy watching them call me Oakglenn.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
JFB
Trickle-down is a proven failure. So were the economies of Republican Presidents.
http://unastronaut.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/120m4471.jpg
June 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
If the prez just raises the highest income earning rate, and does nothing for corporate loopholes and the cap gains rate, it will raise the taxes on Soup and DHB, and let Jeff Lurie and Al Davis get away mostly unharmed.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
666…check your e-mail.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Well, I agree, the Coprorate Loopholes and Welfare have to be stopped.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
So far Stimulus (Both Bush’s and BO’s) were also an abject failure.
The new reality is that the USA no longer has the competitive advantages it once had over the rest of the world, mostly due to the internet commerce age we are in.
The youth of today needs to pull up their pants and make themselves useful, or else unemployment will never go under 7% again in our lifetime. Quit talking like they are chatting on twitter, and look people in the eye.
Much, much more competitive, international job-market than what it was in the 90’s.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I agree, and a lot of the high paying tech jobs have to be filled with Visa workers.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Dakota
check your email
June 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
#689
Nice post JFB!!
June 30th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Krappy, the only loop hole around here is in your diapers.
Do the folks at Kane & Associates know you spend your days posting meaningless articles onto a football blog instead of hustling for listings?
Just wondering.
HOLLA AT YOUR BOY
June 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
One little tech guy in India, can facilitate the sale of as many JC Penney sweaters as 10 in-store sales associates.
High-end restaurants in Manhatten, have removed waiters and waitresses and installed Ipad’s inside the tables that now take the orders.
This is why, as that guy said in the Rove link, corporations are making record profits, but not hiring.
Why?? They don’t need to, they have hit a peak level of efficiency and profitability.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Yep, that is the same 666 that has been in here since 2008….
June 30th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Vegas, check your e-mail too.
June 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Shannon Brown opted out of his contract….dude is going to be in for a surprise when teams are not busting down his door to sign him.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Oh, I gotta run…..take it easy!
June 30th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Roger that
June 30th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Do the folks at Kane & Associates know you spend your days posting meaningless articles onto a football blog instead of hustling for listings?
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Yes my office has been called and informed, Lol. They told me to go to the police and I did.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
So my sentence in Hell Paso is now complete, time for the 4 hour drive home to end the day.
If these Border inspection people mess with me again I might lose it.
“It’s called Italian you stupid M-Fer, I know the dark-hair throws YOU PEOPLE off”.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Krappy, don’t do everything you’re told, old man. That’s how you wound up a kept man to begin with.
Bros I’m slamming Mai Tais out of a margarita glass from last night’s blow out and it tastes sweet! That little taste of rim salt kicks it up a notch.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
“They told me to go to the police and I did.”
And the police told you to get back to work!!
June 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
JaMoron and his sycophants blame the Raids for Russell’s epic failure.
‘Gangstas’ and those that glorify ‘thug life’ blame the police for crime.
It’s not JaMoron’s fault he’s a syrup slurping, incomprehensible, lard azzed moron – it’s the Raiders’ fault.
Rampant murder, crime, drug usage, illegitimacy, mayhem and lawlessness isn’t the fault of the people in a community – it’s the Man’s fault.
And the beat goes on.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
aigraiders says:
Jun 30, 2011 4:39 PM
Idiotic Art Shell tried to do the same thing with the Raiders too.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/30/eric-heitmanns-neck-injury-caused-by-singletarys-nutcracker/
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Looks like AIG has gone over to PBT.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Obviously Krappy was sent to the Pamper Police. His sentence – 30 days with diaper rash.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
#706
LMAO
June 30th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
JaMoron and his sycophants blame the Raids for Russell’s epic failure.
‘Gangstas’ and those that glorify ‘thug life’ blame the police for crime.
It’s not JaMoron’s fault he’s a syrup slurping, incomprehensible, lard azzed moron – it’s the Raiders’ fault.
Rampant murder, crime, drug usage, illegitimacy, mayhem and lawlessness isn’t the fault of the people in a community – it’s the Man’s fault.
And the beat goes on.
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Jaraidermann99
I hate thugs who glorify the gansta life. That’s one reason I detest Brien.
And, so far as Oakland crime rate, see above. It’s got to stop.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
If the Raiders were holding Russell back, he’s had plenty of time to recover from that.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
In a column for the Sporting News, the legendary Denver quarterback said young Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell won’t be able to succeed in Oakland.
“JaMarcus Russell’s only chance at NFL success is to get out of Oakland. OK, maybe that’s harsh. But we all know it’s his best chance at success,” Elway writes.
This, courtesy of the Sporting News, is what else Elway wrote:
“The fastest way to ruin a quarterback is to put him on a bad team, with a bad line, with no weapons, with no continuity in the coaching staff. That pretty much describes the current Raiders. The game has passed Al Davis by, and he’s the only one who doesn’t know it. Every time the Raiders get a good coach — Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Norv Turner, etc. — who doesn’t buy into Al’s outdated program, he fires him.
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I guess John Elway is a Russell sycophant, Jaraidermann?
June 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
KK,
You should follow AIG to PBT. You wont be missed around here.
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KoolKell Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Looks like AIG has gone over to PBT.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Remember when Krappy got booted off the blog, slimed his way over the PFT, got whipped and beaten over there, then crawled back to the blog with his pudgy tail between his legs?
Oh man, that was almost as cool as first time I pleasured myself to my Christie Brinkley poster.
June 30th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Well KK, the real question is are YOU a Russell sycophant ?
If Elway is a Russell sycophant, he can prove it by signing Russell. If Elway is correct that the Raids are to blame for Russell being a POS and perhaps the biggest bust in NFL history, then the Mules will surely transform him into the All-Pro that he undoubtably would have been had the Raids not derailed his career.
Right ?
So we’ll just have to wait and see if Elway or any other GM or team is willing to invest further money, time and effort into JaMoron. And then we’ll have to see how JaMoron responds.
In the meantime KK, why don’t you go on record ? Was JaMoron’s failure more attributable to the Raiders or to JaMoron himself ?
I put 99.9% of the blame on JaMoron.
Debo puts 99.9% of the blame on the Raids.
How about you ?
June 30th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
JRUSS <——-100% to blame for his own demise.
Had he put in work.
Had he put in effort.
Had he not been a syrup head.
Had he put in film study.
Had he been a leader of men.
had he
had he
had he……
June 30th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
How in the hell does a QB come in a 300 lbs????
Had he came to camp in shape….
Had he not held out…
June 30th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
JRUSS <——-He created the biggest bust of all time not the NATION…
June 30th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Well, Elway is no idiot when it comes to QB play. Russell was immature and had needs. But, he wasn’t going to get it with the Raiders.
Maybe it’s just coincidental that the Raiders haven’t developed a QB since 68′
The bootlickers can blame me, it’s ok.
June 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
It looks like the lockout will end by Wednesday, They are trying like crazy to get this done obviously there will sticking points but they have to get it doen or else things could get ugly for both parties. They can say no one has missed out on any money but we all know that’s not true and if the miss one minute of one game I’m done for the season I will only watch games for free whatever I don’t see on network TV I wont watch I’ll watch college football.
If they can’t get this solved if the owners are too greedy to share with each other and share with the players then they are too greedy for my money. Get it fixed………………period
June 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Truth is the biggest problem is these negotiations is the owners don’t want to share equally with each other they want the poor owners to get their money from the players. The players are too greedy to give it to them. They’re just a bunch of greedy ultra rich and rich bastards. The can’t relate to the working class but they want our money. Well, either they give me what I want or they aint gettin’ mine…………period
I want NFL football on time and done right…………..damn it get it fixed!!
June 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
watchin this gruden qb camp with pryor on there and i can see why gruden wears out his welcome. he can be such an azzhole.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Kell Im a thug? I advocate the gangsta life? Since when? Lol just because I use some slang and dont have an upper elite salary that doesnt make me a hoodlum. But we know house saggin(read it backwards) like you think youre above other blacks who aint baillin lol
June 30th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Oh Raiders are blame for Russell not even caring to play football? Kell youre amazing lol. Name a raider drafted qb who didnt even at least try? Al deserves some blame cuz i knew that guy stunk but his stubborn nature got best of him.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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You don’t speak for Black folk, you’re a negger, period.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
gruden really soaks the moment.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
You give African Americans a bad name, and you give Oakland a bad name, ngr.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Lefty12 Are you out there? I told you that Billy beane is under pressure now to get it done. They want a stadium whereever they can get one and no one is in a hurry to do so because of there record in recent years it’s hurting their cause. he has to turn this around when they fired Bob Geren it told me everything I needed to know. If they weren’t serious they wouldn’t have done it at all or no way before the end of the season.
They traded Mark Ellis because they have got to get ready to see if these kids can play and they certainly have to know about them before the start bringing up the minor leaguers in Sept to finish off biulding this team. Melvin wants to win and if they weren’t serious I don’t think he comes here knowing it wont improve anytime soon. he may have waited for a better opportunity.
More changes are coming until they start winning consistently trust me.
June 30th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Haaaaaaa and so the meltdown of Kell begins
June 30th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
African American<——-stupid ppl call themselves that. Term is only about 30 years old…..puhleeeeze Chicken George
June 30th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Kell I guarantee more blacks and more ppl in Oaklaand would agree with me on things and still hang with than to deaal with an obvious mental case twit like yourself
June 30th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Kell so let’s bring everyone up to date on recent ass beatings I gave ya…..1. I schooled your ass on the FED/IRS thing……2. I aced you on the moss vs Woodson thing….3.. I pissed over your link of Elway and that false lie he didnt want to play for Al………4. I just schooled your ass again about MLk being a hustlin ass Marxist Jesus pimp…….5. By putting up that link about Russell you killed yourself from 08 lol
June 30th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Now Im called a “neggar” by someone who is obviously melting down. But that’s cool….it only brings ya a step closer to officially wanting to chunk em with me. I predicted that a month ago when I found out you were a sad mulatto deep seeded issue having moron lol
June 30th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
MARK Ellis is Mark Failus living next to Fag Bell Park
June 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Kell see you are the type to look down on blacks who are poor or even homeless. I dont do that at all. I speak to all brothas out there no matter if they got on a suit rolling in a Bentley or the bum asking for change off Broadway in downtown. You are the disgrace to black ppl not me. Black folks shoot the Bauce love all day from the Bay 2 LA 2 THE SOUTH 2 THe Midwest and East
June 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Terrelle Pryor is as raw as it comes, But coaches see athlete instead of QB. The guy that sees QB and drafts this kid and coaches him up is going to have a special player in 2-3 years. He just has the eye of the tiger he just gets it done however he has to do it he does it.
Terrelle Pryor, heapernick and Newton may change the way this game is viewed and change the perception of hwat the proto typr QB looks like. Not talking skin color I’m talking skillset.
Mike Vick, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben are changing the idea as we speak with their athleticism.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Kell how u gonna speak on other black ppl as if you so Afrocentric when u sleep next to a white woman at night? More black ppl can relate to my situation and not yours and that is what makes you mad
June 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I never understood those black power cats with their white women. That was always hilarious to me.
Not that I have a problem with mixed couples at all. Just the irony of those particular cats.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Pryor isnt a QB. He MAYYY make a club as a TE or WR but hell never take a snap at QB in NFL. Remember all….Priest was the one who INSISTED Jamarcus would be a star. Likely situation…..Pryor never takes an NFl snap
June 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
BHP i doubt it….just dont see it with Pryor
June 30th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Gruden would have trouble coaching T Pryor because he wants to run his system which will slow the learning curve for Pryor his system is a high volumn word system which calls formation and assignments for everyone individually. That is a time consuming offense for a young QB which why he struggled with young QB’s he was way too impatient it takes 3 years for a vet to truely learn that system. He wants them to do it in one year. And it cost him a QB and his job.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
I understand Bauce few people do but I definitely see it but it takes a smart coach with vision to do it. He cana’t get drafted by a bonehead who wants to change everything about him. It take ssomeoen who utilizes his strengths until he learns the pro-game and can execute an entire playbook. Which could take 2 years offseasons and training camps and allow him to sit and learn first
June 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
ANYONE would have trouble coaching Pryor.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Jhill its pitiful….I LAMBO all races of bzies fa sho but i aint doing the black power stuff like Kell. He says Im a disgrace? Too funny
June 30th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Some drunk who sits on a blog ALL DAY, EVERY DAY calling any NFL coach a bonehead?? LOL!!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Bhp just like Russell he will get his chance
June 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
J Hill Says:
June 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I never understood those black power cats with their white women. That was always hilarious to me.
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You don’t have to be a nggr or a racists, to want the best for your people.
June 30th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Bauce I cracks me up man when people use Russell to equate every black QB. The only thing the have in common is heritage and uni #. T Pryor is soooo different from Russell it’s like night and day. Russell was twice as talented as Pryor and a much different QB. Pryor is an athletic freak with QB ability he just needs the skills to play ta the next level. He has a great framework and concept of the position he just needs to be coached technically. Same with all QB it’s just that Pryor is a couple of years behind. It all comes down to work ethic his motivation level is Terrelle Pryor’s alone no one is inside his head. Each and every human is very different when People look at on eguy and say another guy is just like him. That’s when I kind of tune them out. No two people are alike…………period
June 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Raiders are the best! Raiders are the best! Da Raiderz are the best!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Priest,
You LOVE to end every one of you statements with “PERIOD” like what you say is somehow fact. Well heres a PERIOD FACT for you….If Terrell Pryor were white you wouldnt even give the kid the time of day….Period.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
post 746(cmon Jerry),TJ, just got in,are you sayin Pryor should be looked at by the Raiders at QB,or in youre opinion, not! Raiders!!!!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
@ Priesttj:
I read your posts and I think your talent is being wasted in here. You should be out coaching Pop Warner football. I’m glad you like the Raiders though!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
I would love for the Raiders to draft Pryor and have suggested as much.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Kell haha youre a total racist and u dont want best for blacks
June 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Thanks Angry for the kind words.. I have a unigue situation that allows me to exploit what I know.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Brien,could be we all will fill the parking lot for a tailgate party with the nfl and nba players NOT showing up!Seems owners may be looking at the big picture,a sorry economy and NOTHING to say otherwise for the future,just is sorry.Anyway,I try the positive approach,not feelin it,hope IM wrong,later
June 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Hendu…..i feel it
June 30th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Pryor is a terrible idea at QB, but might be a good option as a football player. WR/#3QB type guy.
For the exact same reasons I think Tebow will struggle, so will Pryor. He’ll make some exciting plays running the ball and could create some holes in a defense because of his running abilities.
Personally, I like my QBs to be able to actually pass the ball.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Nigs as a rule cant play QB…there are exceptions of course….IE Moon, Cullpepper, McNabb and Vick. 90% of good NFL QBs are crackers….here you go Priest…PERIOD. LOL!
June 30th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Sadly….not enough blk qbs did their thing yet. Only one lasted a decade by the team that drafted him…..Donovan
June 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Now the NBA is aout to lockout……..I’m starting to sour on prosports…….period
Giving 100’s of millions of $$ to some ignorant kids is insanity. Half of them will be broke before their careers are over it’s the biggest waste on money on earth. The owners are charging way too much for tickets. The players are making way too much before they underrstand what to do with it. Most men don’t have a clue what to do witha million $$’s until they’re almost 40 years old and these guys are getting this money way way way too young.
If I was an agent I probably wouldn’t have a client but those who did sign with me wouldn’t see 70% of their imcome until age 30. That way by the time they get it they’re counterparts will hav espent theirs and they will know exactly what to do and what not to do. In fact it should be handled like a 401k plan where you can only get it in a hardship situation.
June 30th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
But the sample size isnt hella big tho
June 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
NFL teams and coaches only care about winning, except Al Davis of course, his ego is more important. So why is it that 90% of NFL QBs on rosters are crackers as oppposed to nigs??
June 30th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Haha Dan whats so wrong for you to wanna repeat the nigs thing? Upset you got your woman yanked? Got robbed?
June 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Repeat the nig thing? WTF are you talking about? Thats what I refer to my homies as…my nigs. Whats your problem? We cant play NFL QB…own every other po po though
June 30th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Why can blacks be good point guards and pitchers, but not QBs?
June 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Good ?? J Hill….gooood question
June 30th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Bauce I have had this vision for many years 20+ where this league has players at QB who ae multi-talented and not some pigeon holed idea of what a QB is. The game is about moving the ball and scoring and trying to stop that. When you have a Payton Manning per se and a Mike Vick they do it very different but defenes hate facing both players. This league is big enough for both styles but the mindset of coaches is stand in the pocket like a statue and either pass it or throw it away.
My idea of the multi-talented QB is one who can do that as well as tear you apart with his legs now. I’m not looking for what they call a running QB as much as I’m looking for a QB who can do serious damage with his feet instead of only throwing it away and wasting a down. It doesn’t mean you run at the first sight of trouble but as a weapon.
Steve Young almost mastered this prototype and Randall Cunningham was close. John Elway to a lessor extent exhibited this style which made him damn near impossible to defend which is why he went to 5 SB’s 3 of which were bad teams. His triple threat was devastating. Pryor has that sort of dimension it has to be cultivated into the full prototype but he is the perfect specimen to do that. He has a great grasp of the comcept of the position he just needs technigue and time to adjust to the pro-game. And you could have the ultimate weapon at QB. Mike Vick is very close his only drawback is his size. Pryor is HUGE and has that same gift flat out speed with all the tools to be a top teir QB.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Priest,
Your a ni gger lover. Period if Pryor were a honkie youd be bashin him. Period.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Dan lol u have no homies
June 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Well the simple answer blacks can be good QBs. You cited several examples yourself.
Tom Brady, Manning, Rivers, and Brees couldn’t play any other position on the field. They can’t make plays running the ball. They have had to rely on the arm since pop warner, or they wouldn’t even be on the field
And it’s really the athletic QBs instead of the black QB, imo. Tim Tebow is a prime example.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Haha Dan’s daughter just got pregnant by a “nig” and she is blasting waka flocka all thru his house…..life must be hard
June 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
The don’t get the coaching and the time to develope. Take for instance Alex Smith who has been a bust several times. But they still don’t give up hope because they see him as the prototype QB. He’s smart he works hard and he has talent. But they see a black QB like Newton and Pryor who has emmense talent and physical and the see immediate returns at a different position whether than to teach him the QB position. That is all they are saying about Pryor. Why waste time learning to play QB when you can be a HOF TE that’s their reasoning it always has been. They have no vision. Mike Vick’s name was Haven Moses many years ago and the coaches couldn’t wait to train him because he was a very good WR almost immediately but he was a better QB propect only they couldn’t see it. Moses could’ve been Warren Moon they never gave him the chance. But they’ll waste 4-6 years on a white QB until he finally gets it then he turns out to be an average QB at best.
T Pryor if allowed to sit and learn can be an awesome QB if he’s allowed to do what Aaron Rodgers was allowed to do. Sit and learn……………period
June 30th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I’m more interested in why there are no white cornerbacks.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Priest,
I hear you on your triple threat, but the QBs BEST attribute should be his passing skills, imo. The main problem I see with Pryor is I think he would need to sit on the bench for at least 3 years and improve his passing skills. He’s certainly not the pass first guy who runs only when there is no other option.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Lol anyhow…..have at it guys
June 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Jhill I know that his most important asset is passing……….I’ve had this argument with scouts and GM’s man. I’m not talking about a runner at QB I’m talking about a QB who’s a superior athlete. The NFL wont allow it because they’re too narrow minded and set in their ways. Pryor is every bit the passser Jake Locker is in fact Jake is a great athlete as well but he gets the benefit of the doubt. Gannon was drafted as a DB but they allowed him sit amd learn the QB position and look what happened. the same can and will be true with these guys coaches just have to be open to the idea. Look at Mike Vick once he recieved the proper coaching.
June 30th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Ni ggers shouldnt even be allowed to play QB….how many nigs have won a Superbowl??
June 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Tim Tebow is the perfect example of what I’m saying you saw what he did to us on that 40 yard run. It’s a devastating weapon once he learns the QB position.
June 30th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
The rules are changed every year to make it easier for your white quarterbacks. If there were more black QBs in the game, who knows if we’d have all of these rule changes thanks to wuss lobbying by QBs like Manning and Brady. I don’t know. Seems black people just don’t cry as much about rough play. They seem to take it on and roll with it. Reminds me of something Willie McCovey said about a decade ago when so many sports journalists (most of them white) were suggesting stiffer punishments for intentional beaming: “A pitcher couldn’t have beamed me if he tried.”
July 1st, 2011 at 1:45 am
Cornfucious say man who hanky panky like the stanky stanky.
Cornfucious also say man who like to start trouble wish he could hanky panky with the stanky stanky.
July 1st, 2011 at 1:53 am
Cornfucious say man with two trouser snakes in double trouble
July 1st, 2011 at 2:00 am
Cornfucios say man who crosspost one thing and crosspost another thing is a two timing man, who probably crosspost because he is two timer.
July 1st, 2011 at 2:12 am
Cornfucious say: stanky stanky and hanky panky go together like pigs in a blanker. Cocka ducas brother Lucas. Sun rising so Cornfucious got to get to work.
July 1st, 2011 at 2:41 am
Well it looks like sports Armageddon in LA; no football team, no more Lakers (lockout), and the Dodgers are Bankrupt…
July 1st, 2011 at 5:59 am
No T.O. and No Chad I domn’t want their garbage here we have young impressionable kids who need positive leadership. Those two might be HOF WR’s but HOS(Hall Of Shame) leaders. Tooo many outside interest…football is 10th on their list of interest
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Priest,
Chad Johnson is a prima donna. no thanks
Terrell Owens is a football player. He showed that last year when nobody wanted him in free agency, signed a cheap 1-year deal with the Bungles and outplayed #85. He showed that playing for the Eagles in the Super Bowl as well
I don’t care how “interested” they are. We want production. Owens is gonna go a long way towards helping you win football games because he instantly improves our passing offense, which ranked 23rd last season
July 1st, 2011 at 6:11 am
GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR.AGREE ON T.O. OVER #85.
July 1st, 2011 at 6:25 am
I don’t care how “interested” they are. We want production. Owens is gonna go a long way towards helping you win football games because he instantly improves our passing offense, which ranked 23rd last season
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Yeah lets sign a 37 year old wide receiver who just had ACL surgery and wont be able to play football until Mid November at the earliest.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:10 am
Man, it ain’t 2005, TO hasn’t improved a team in 5 years.
Time to turn that old horse into glue.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:21 am
Rockstar,
First you are on the AI tip, now TO?
Again, it is 2011!!!!
July 1st, 2011 at 7:31 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Rockstar, Dirt Lot, JFB…what’s up fellas?
Happy Aloha Friday to you all!
July 1st, 2011 at 7:32 am
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/06/30/raiders-will-make-offensive-free-agents-top-priori
July 1st, 2011 at 7:37 am
Geez….looks like basketball is gonna be worse then the NFL’s lockout! Greed has taken over the fun of sports! Miss the 70’s and early 80’s….
July 1st, 2011 at 7:42 am
More than 50% of NBA teams are operating at a loss right now, and they are willing to open the books to prove it. The NBA owners have WAY more leverage than the NFL.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:45 am
Well…what do we do now?
Only baseball, hockey,women’s beach volleyball, and Womens curling?
July 1st, 2011 at 7:57 am
D@MN NEW POST JERRY!!!!
MAKE UP SOME $#IT IF YOU HAVE TO MAN.
D2MN I HATE THIS LOCKOUT BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 1st, 2011 at 8:04 am
The NBA players will be forced to give back some of their 57% of revenue to the teams. The owners asking for a 50-50 split is just a lowball first offer….
….they will compromise at about 53%, with players’ contracts shortened from 7 years to 6 years for players’ current teams and from 6 years to 5 years for players signing with other teams to save the owners from themselves when they make bad deals.
And the annual % raises the players get each new year of their contracts will be cut quite a bit.
I don’t think they can get a hard cap in place, so I think it will be a similar soft cap, with maybe an option to drop one bad contract a year off their salary cap number (but still have to pay the player).
I think the luxury tax goes away, but their will be revenue sharing between the rich teams like the lakers and knicks and the poor teams like Memphis, but there will be some provision that requires that shared money to go back into the team and not into the owner’s pocket (which really doesn’t work because the money the poor team saves by applying the shared revenue to team expenses just goes into the owner’s pocket anyhow, so what is the difference?)
That is how I see it anyhow.
July 1st, 2011 at 8:20 am
TO better than Chad? Lol….you guys crack me up. TO is done peole. ACL injuries take two years to fully heal from and we dont got time to waste. Plus what games did you see last year? TO never got doubled becuz of CHAD JOHNSON! Ask any bengals fan this. All of TO’s big plays I see single coverage. Chad is better player for us
July 1st, 2011 at 8:24 am
Cornfucious say lockout stank
July 1st, 2011 at 8:35 am
I have to say that was not a big fan of Terrelle Pryor until I watched him last night on Grudens QB show on ESPN.
I was impressed with how well he understands reading defenses and could easily show you what safety would do what in any given situation.
He seems humble and eager to learn, he is IMO light years ahead of Kim newton in his ability to play call and audible at the LOS.
I am thinking we need to take a closer look at this young man.
July 1st, 2011 at 8:46 am
God so called “House Fly” shut up. U bringing ur lame ass back on here after your 3 year hiatus…spare us
July 1st, 2011 at 8:48 am
666….who knows? I just dont dig his passing ability
July 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am
Bauce
Good morning dude any big plans for the weekend?
July 1st, 2011 at 9:03 am
I didn’t see the Pryor-Gruden thing yet.
From all accounts, he is much more punctual and less phoney than Kim Newton.
But probably not as talented throwing the ball.
However, as we learned with the Jamarcus debacle, talent in throwing motion on it’s own means next to nothing.
Got to have everything else FIRST, than you can use the arm strength.
It’s like owning a Maybach, living in Podunk with no paved roads. What good is it if you can’t use it??
July 1st, 2011 at 9:04 am
Speaking of Maybach’s, in this weeks SI, under the “They said it” quote, is the Dubs 2nd round draft pick (forget his name).
Some scribe asked him why he doesn’t have any tattoo’s.
His answer? “You ever seen a bumper sticker on a Maybach?”
I thought that was a pretty awesome response.
July 1st, 2011 at 9:39 am
Yeah lets sign a 37 year old wide receiver who just had ACL surgery and wont be able to play football until Mid November at the earliest.
Man, it ain’t 2005, TO hasn’t improved a team in 5 years.
Time to turn that old horse into glue.
First you are on the AI tip, now TO?
Again, it is 2011!!!!
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LOL @ BCZ & JFB
I knew those comments weren’t going to fly unprotested in here
11 starts, 72 catches for 983 yards & 9 TD’s
those comments about not being available until mid November were just T.O. hater propaganda. I’m thinking early September, maybe even August
55 catches, 829 yards & 5 TD’s in 2009 with Fitzpatrick only starting 8 games in his 1st season with Buffalo (Edwards & Brohm the other
Owens is #2 All-Time in receiving yards & receiving TD’s (behind only Jerry Rice in both categories)
Rice mentored Owens for the first 5 years of his career.
Who’s showing DHB, Murphy & Ford (add Moore, Ausberry & NMiller to that list if you wish) the ropes?
Chaz Schilens & Sanjay Lal?
July 1st, 2011 at 9:44 am
It’s like owning a Maybach, living in Podunk with no paved roads. What good is it if you can’t use it??
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in this scenario,
Pryor = german luxury car
Oakland = Podunk
???
July 1st, 2011 at 9:46 am
Oakland = Podunk
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JFB,
that would make Kell a Podunker, LOL
expect some heavy backlash from comment # 802
July 1st, 2011 at 9:52 am
and YES I still think that the Miami Heat could use Allen Iverson. the man = points scored
Bibby couldn’t score and LeBron was in a funk against Dallas
I think Dallas will represent the West again (the Lakers are done) so the Heat can’t just stand pat and expect “the King” to reign this time around
July 1st, 2011 at 9:59 am
*tap tap* is this thing on?
July 1st, 2011 at 10:06 am
The Lakers are done? LOL…right now its the whole NBA that is done what what I read…and then Schefter just tweeted that talks aren’t going well…
July 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am
yeah its on RR but today is like a holiday people are leaving town early to get a head start on the long weekend while dedicated employees like myself are stuck at the office picking up the slack.
July 1st, 2011 at 10:21 am
Dan Land = Rush Limbaugh?
July 1st, 2011 at 10:23 am
—”Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg indicated that Mike Kafka “could be the best rookie that I’ve ever had in 15, 16, 17 years” as far as picking up the offense. Slot receiver Jason Avant believes Kafka is ready to fill the No. 2 role if Kevin Kolb is traded. As high as the Eagles seem to be on Kafka as a developmental prospect, they’re not going to put that weight on his shoulders while gunning for the Super Bowl”—
to all the doubters in Raiderland… I told ya, he was special!
July 1st, 2011 at 10:50 am
Bros, me and the ladies got a HUGE July 4th blowout weekend planned.
We’re already out at the pool cranking some Simply Red and I’m warming up my right hand to administer the Shocker.
In an hour the PARTYDUDE 8000 will be warmed up and cranking out strawberry margaritas. That means it’ll be time for my Huey Lewis and the News greatest hits cd and some romantic 69ing in the jacuzzi.
Tomorrow we board the Reggae Party Boat and set sail for Pacific Beach to party serious at the Catamaran all weekend long. Don’t worry, I’ve already stocked up on Magnums and Coors Light Party Balls.
What are you dweebs up to, I’m ready to laugh.
July 1st, 2011 at 10:58 am
Hmm. I would like to see Beane do something different and actually be a slight buyer. I think the A’s should take advantage of the messed up financial situation with the Dodgers and try and trade for some of their talent.
I would go after Matt Kemp and see if they can trade two minor leaguers and maybe Barton or Willingham?
Matt Kemp would bring a solid right hand bat in the middle of the A’s lineup!
July 1st, 2011 at 11:10 am
OakGlen666,
Picking up slack? LMAO
On a blog cross posting does not = picking up the slack
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Silverandblack666 Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am
yeah its on RR but today is like a holiday people are leaving town early to get a head start on the long weekend while dedicated employees like myself are stuck at the office picking up the slack.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:10 am
I don’t think the A’s have the assets to get a Matt Kemp in a trade.
But you are right, every team should be aggressively trying to take advantage of the Dodgers right now.
Get some of their arms for the stretch drive, maybe get Loney, but I think Kemp will be the one they want to rebuild around.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:12 am
B Beane is a hack, time for a change of ownership and GM or move them to Arkansas so the Raiders cant play without an infield.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:14 am
But you are right, every team should be aggressively trying to take advantage of the Dodgers right now.
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F all of you guys!
July 1st, 2011 at 11:18 am
SisterBrownEyeKK
I wouldn’t expect you to understand what a working mans day is like. Mooching off your family and the government for day to day survival must be pretty humiliating at times.
I am guessing your slack times comes while waiting in the cheese line or at the food bank with your mom.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:27 am
Living in your moms basement like a deformed hermit playing Madden all day does not make you an expert on football or give you a viable opinion on the day to day life of us normal working class stiffs.
I can only hope that the at least medicate you so your life does not seem so dismal and bleak.
I do understand that you seek out affirmation on this blog to make your pathetic life seem like it has some sort of substance and I do apologize for calling you and out and showing the rest of the online world what kind of sad pathetic human being you are.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am
I hate the infield for Raiders games.
Bush league.
July 1st, 2011 at 11:47 am
SO THE TEAM CAN STINK AS LONG AS THE FIELD LOOKS GOOD ?
July 1st, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Happy b-day on Monday Al! 82nd! Are you the oldest NFL GM in history?
July 1st, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Snapp: Al Davis keeps his Raider family close
By Martin Snapp, Columnist
Posted: 07/01/2011 10:54:09 AM PDT
Updated: 07/01/2011 11:19:37 AM PDT
When the Oakland Tribune’s longtime sports editor, Bob Valli, retired in 1993, a bunch of us who worked at the paper decided to throw him a retirement party.
We asked him to tell us whom to invite, and the first name on his list was Al Davis.
“Come on, Bob!” I said. “He’ll never come! Everybody knows he’s a recluse.”
“He’ll come,” Bob said. “You’ll see.”
And, of course, Bob was right.
Davis was the first person to arrive that night and the last to leave.
Why?
Because back in the ’60s Bob had been the Tribune’s pro football reporter, covering the Raiders during their early days. And in Davis’s mind, that made Bob part of the family.
And that, I think, is the key to understanding the Raiders owner, who will turn 82 on Monday.
If you’re part of the family, there’s nothing he won’t do for you. Just ask Art Shell, whom he made the first African American head coach in the NFL.
Or Tom Flores, whom he made the first Mexican-American head coach. Or Amy Trask, whom he made the first female CEO.
Or players like Jim Otto, who have remained close to Davis long after their playing days were over.
On the other hand, if he views you as an enemy — or, even worse, an apostate — watch out! Just ask Marcus Allen, Jon Gruden, Lane Kiffin or Pete Rozelle.
I once was talking with the late Dr. Bob Albo, the Raiders’ team physician and Davis’ personal friend, and we agreed that the person Davis
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most resembled was Frank Sinatra.
Some people might have thought of Davis and Sinatra as bad guys, but they didn’t care because they lived according to a code of conduct that they considered superior to society’s.
It’s a tribal code, really: indifferent to outsiders but extremely caring and kind to members of the tribe.
When Alameda County Superior Court Judge Malcolm Champlin, a longtime friend, was dying of cancer, Davis would send a limousine to his house to take him to Raiders home games. The limo parked in a secluded part of the Coliseum where nobody could see it, so Champlin could watch the game without having to get out of the car.
But here’s the catch: The Champlin family wouldn’t let me write about this at the time because for Davis, even a hint that he might have done it for something as crass as publicity would have spoiled the pleasure for him.
True, the team has been in the doldrums lately. But there was a time when opposing players would run by the Raiders bench and yell, “Hey, Al! Trade for me! I want to be a Raider!”
And though some people still haven’t forgiven him for moving the team to Los Angeles in 1982, he brought them back in 1995, didn’t he?
He’s like Winston Churchill, who was originally elected to Parliament as a Conservative, crossed the aisle in 1904 to join the Liberals, then crossed the aisle again 20 years later to rejoin the Conservatives.
As he took his seat on the Conservative bench, his erstwhile Liberal allies hooted at him, “Rat! Rat!” Unperturbed, Churchill replied, “Anyone can rat, but it takes a certain amount of ingenuity to re-rat.”
Happy birthday, Mister D.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 11:18 am
SisterBrownEyeKK
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666BrownStains
Leave me out of your troll talk.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
We won a lot of games in that very same old stadium when Gruden was here.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Dakota, you seem tickled pink by the fact that we have an 82 year old GM who’s proven well beyond any sane person’s reasonable doubt in the past decade that he has no clue what he’s doing anymore. I think you’re a closet homer, Dakota.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Marv Levy was about 82 when he quit as GM of the Bills….but it only took him a couple of years to realize that the NFL GM spot is no place for an octogenarian.
Will Al ever realize that he is hurting his beloved Raiders?
July 1st, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Oh yeah, I really seem tickled pink about Al lol.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:27 pm
MR,
What did you think of the True Blood season opener? I think the show is done after that pitiful display.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
“Leave me out of your troll talk.”
Now how can we have troll talk on this blog without including the king of all trolls KK?
July 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I’ve never watched True Blood. Always seemed kind of stupid. I look at all of the people who get excited about True Blood, be it at work or facebook friends, what have you, and it’s the same lizard brains who like Jersey Shore.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:37 pm
832.RAIDER Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm
I’ve never watched True Blood. Always seemed kind of stupid. I look at all of the people who get excited about True Blood, be it at work or facebook friends, what have you, and it’s the same lizard brains who like Jersey Shore.
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What! Yeah right, next thing I know you will say you don’t watch Grey’s Anatomy either!
July 1st, 2011 at 12:41 pm
lol
have a nice 4th all.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:51 pm
It is tough to fill in the void in between Grey’s seasons, lol.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm
today is like a holiday people are leaving town early to get a head start on the long weekend while dedicated employees like myself are stuck at the office picking up the slack.
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Silver,
Agreed!
i’m in the same boat. Only 3 of 7 are in the office (in my dept) today
July 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
—”Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg indicated that Mike Kafka “could be the best rookie that I’ve ever had in 15, 16, 17 years” as far as picking up the offense. Slot receiver Jason Avant believes Kafka is ready to fill the No. 2 role if Kevin Kolb is traded. As high as the Eagles seem to be on Kafka as a developmental prospect, they’re not going to put that weight on his shoulders while gunning for the Super Bowl”—
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LMN,
trade Kyle Boller & Hiram Eugene for Mike Kafka !
July 1st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Albuquerque has a saying, they call it the “Land of Manana”.
My phone hasn’t rang all day. The perks of the New Mexico territory.
July 1st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Dakota, if you need to attach your embarrassing fanaticism of True Blood onto others by accusing them of liking the show, too, knock yourself out. I’ve never watched an episode. I watched a little at first, merely for smut value. They promoted the show as straight up vamp porn. Fell far short of my reasonable expectations. Since the Sopranos, I’ve been a harsh judge of every premium cable drama, because none come close to being as good.
July 1st, 2011 at 1:00 pm
trade Kyle Boller & Hiram Eugene for Mike Kafka !
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I’d throw in a future 4th rounder to boot!!
July 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm
JFB,
I always thought NM was the “Land of Enchantment”?
July 1st, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Later dudes have a great 4th
July 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I wonder how many Raider fans would pee thier pants if Al Davis traded Jason Campbell and next year’s 2nd rounder for Carson Palmer ???
July 1st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
That’s for the state of New Mexico.
I’m talking the Burque holmes.
July 1st, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Niners sell $138 million in luxury suites for proposed stadium
Posted by Mike Florio (PFT)
The San Francisco 49ers hope to build a new stadium in Santa Clara, California. Though the project still has a long way to go, the team has lined up commitments for a significant amount of luxury suites.
A very significant amount of luxury suites.
According to Mike Rosenberg of the San Jose Mercury News (via SportsBusiness Daily), the Niners have sold $138 million in luxury suites. “These remarkable sale results should answer anyone who asks if the stadium in Santa Clara will be a reality,” Mayor Jamie Matthews said Thursday, per Rosenberg.
“It validates the confidence we’ve had in the project all along,” 49ers COO Paraag Marathe said, “and it shows the tremendous amount of support and confidence that our fans have for this project. One hundred and thirty-eight million is no small number; it lays a pretty big foundation.”
Most buyers have made long-term commitments. Their names have not yet been disclosed; the majority are individuals, and some are companies.
The development doesn’t guarantee that the stadium will be built, but it helps.
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would anybody rather watch Raider home games at Candlestick Park?
Many Raider fans think that The Coliseum is a dump.
July 1st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Since 2006:
Carson Palmer – 68 starts, 15961 yards, 62 % completion percentage, 104 TD’s, 70 INT’s, 83 QB Rating, 3 rush TD’s, 35 fumbles (13 lost)
Since 2006:
Jason Campbell – 64 starts, 13247 yards, 60 % completion percentage, 68 TD’s, 46 INT’s, 82 QB Rating, 4 rush TD’s, 43 fumbles (13 lost)
CAST YOUR VOTE !!!
July 1st, 2011 at 1:29 pm
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/01/kobe-bryant-has-experimental-therapy-on-his-knees/
bwahahahahahahahaha !!!
July 1st, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Will Michael Bush Return To Oakland? According to Pro Football Weekly, the Oakland Raiders would like to re-sign running back Michael Bush, as long as the running back isn’t looking to start. If Bush is looking for a situation where he becomes a starting running back, then Oakland may let him go to free agency. Cedric Benson remains one of the Bengals top priorities when the new league year begins. But if Benson moves on, the Bengals will have to field options for a new starting running back.
cincyjungle.com
July 1st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
I still can’t believe Hue Jackson won that show “The Voice”
his singing ability far outweighs his play calling ability
Congrats & Good luck to him!
July 1st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
YOU PEOPLE, all have a safe & happy 4th..!
Also, wishing a VERY happy 82nd. to Uncle Al!!!!!……
July 1st, 2011 at 2:39 pm
have a safe & happy 4th..!
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you too 909, Dakota, Silver, etc!
July 1st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
comparison (first 3 years in the league)
Bo Jackson ‘87 – ‘89: 390 carries for 2084 yards (5.3 ypc) & 11 TD’s
Plus 34 catches for 284 yards and 2 TD’s
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Darren McFadden ‘08 – ‘10: 440 carries for 2013 yards (4.6 ypc) & 12 TD’s
Plus 97 catches for 1037 yards and 3 TD’s
thoughts ???
July 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Lakers add Person, Snyder to new coaching staff
Posted Jul 1 2011 4:25PM
EL SEGUNDO, Calif. (AP) — Chuck Person and Quin Snyder have been hired by the Los Angeles Lakers as assistants to new coach Mike Brown.
They join John Kuester, the former Detroit Pistons head coach, on Brown’s staff.
Person spent the last two seasons working with the Lakers under retired coach Phil Jackson. Previously, he spent two seasons each as an assistant with Sacramento and Indiana, where he played 13 years in the NBA.
Snyder spent last season as an assistant with Philadelphia. Previously, he coached the Austin Toros in the NBA D-League for three years. Snyder coached seven years at Missouri, where his tenure ended in NCAA violations that led to probation and off-the-court problems with players.
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Did the “Lake Show” just get better or worse?
July 1st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Bo put up those numbers while playing PART TIME!!
I’m not quite old enough to have seen Jim Brown when he played, but had BO stayed healthy who knows how incredible his stats could have been…
Bo was awesome to watch….
July 1st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Lakers are on the back burner for now here in SO-CAL. Everyone wants that carpetbagger Frank McCourt removed from ownership of the Doyers….
July 1st, 2011 at 4:41 pm
This post is 3 years old. Forget Sapp and Huff they both done.
I got D-Mac pushing for the MVP this year, he will rush for over 1,350 and catch for 850. about 14 TD’s combined.
July 1st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 1st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Since 2006:
Carson Palmer – 68 starts, 15961 yards, 62 % completion percentage, 104 TD’s, 70 INT’s, 83 QB Rating, 3 rush TD’s, 35 fumbles (13 lost)
Since 2006:
Jason Campbell – 64 starts, 13247 yards, 60 % completion percentage, 68 TD’s, 46 INT’s, 82 QB Rating, 4 rush TD’s, 43 fumbles (13 lost)
CAST YOUR VOTE !!!
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JC everyday of the week twice on sunday, here is why
Crason has hit his ceiling JC has not. Palmer has been in the same offense for years, and he has had very good receivers, ochocstinko, t.o tj and so on. he cant get any better than he already is.
JC is mobile, has played in too may offense to count year after year, with no reciever to speak of. the best he has had to throw to, santana moss, chris cooly and z miller.
JC finally has good weapons to throw to, and the same offense. he will be much better than palmer when all is said and done. JC is still getting better palmer has maxed out.
July 1st, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Bo put up those numbers while playing PART TIME!!
I got D-Mac pushing for the MVP this year, he will rush for over 1,350 and catch for 850. about 14 TD’s combined.
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both excellent points
Let’s hope DMAC has a breakout year in his 4th season instead of a career ending one like BJ. I think McFadden is poised for greatness, at least for the next 5 years (then who knows?)
DMAC gave up a ton of carries to Fargas as a rookie and Bush as a soph … but injuries also played a part in that
July 1st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
JC finally has good weapons to throw to, and the same offense. he will be much better
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Mistic,
I wish I could buy into that. I just don’t feel confident enough in JCamp’s supporting cast (OL & WR)
Campbell will put up better stats than last year due to a few things imo… assuming he stays healthy & doesn’t get benched for poor performance
1. no Gradkowski for competition
2. no Cable (Grads saved Cable’s job in ‘09 – making him a BG supporter)
3. Hue Jackson in Year #2
4. DHB, Murphy, Ford, ZMiller, Schilens (same targets = more/better chemistry)
Yes – I use his WR’s & TE’s as both for a reason he could improve or stay average. That’s because his WR’s need to step up (seperation, crisp routes, fewer drops, no fumbles). If they improve in those areas, JCamp might look like the best QB in AFC West. If not, he may look like the worst
July 1st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Yeah D-Mac impressed me against JAX on the road, that game outcome pains me but the type of runs and catch and runs he made proved to me he is in the groove now. Kid is a freakish athlete as a WR and RB. IF AND ONLY IF he stays healthy he will have a great year. Only thing is that Bush will command touches as well as Reece and then you know Taiwan Jones will be used in screens and draws, etc… Thats a lot of carries to go around. Therefore its possibly he has similar numbers as last year.
July 1st, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I love DMC but don’t compare him to Bo Jackson, Bo was a once in a lifetime type athlete we may never see another Bo Vincent Jackson. That kind of speed and athletcism is way to rare Bo was dman near as fast as Ford at 230lbs. Contact with Bo was very different than hitting DMC. Bo could truck you like Bush can and then outrun your entire secondary.
As far as speed and power there was Bo and Jim then everyone else. Herschel Walker was close to those two early in his career but no one else. Oh I forgot Cookie Gilchrist with the Bills some say he was as good as Jim Brown as well.
July 1st, 2011 at 5:31 pm
And Bo was only doing it part time. He was never really in football “trim”.
July 1st, 2011 at 5:56 pm
“Sapp’s critique of Huff is three years old.”
So is this post Jerry.
Got anything else?
July 1st, 2011 at 6:16 pm
After Taking A $10 Billion Bailout, Goldman Sachs Announces It Will Outsource 1,000 Jobs To Singapore
Less than three years after receiving $10 billion in bailout money from American taxpayers, Goldman Sachs informed its employees recently that it will fire 1,000 workers in the United States and elsewhere, shifting their jobs to the cheaper Singaporean labor market.
According to Fox Business, Goldman Sachs has quietly informed workers and lawmakers of its plan to outsource 1,000 jobs in an attempt to inoculate itself from the impending blowback:
Goldman Sachs has also worked to protect itself by hiring former Republican Sen. Judd Gregg (NH) as an “international advisor.” It is not unreasonable to assume that Gregg’s 26 years in Washington will help the investment firm’s attempts to placate critics.
The move to shift 1,000 jobs to Singapore is part of an overall effort by Goldman Sachs to cut $1 billion in operating costs over the next year. However, Goldman is firing American workers at a time of record profits for the company, which raked in $2.7 billion in profits in the first three months of 2011 alone.
Goldman’s plan is helped by conservatives in Washington who have prevented Congress from discouraging corporations from outsourcing. Last fall, Senate Republicans voted unanimously against a bill that would have ended tax breaks for companies that shift American jobs overseas.
Many conservatives justify outsourcing by arguing that not only would companies be more profitable by shifting low-skilled work to developing countries, but laid-off American workers would be forced to re-educate themselves for new, high-paying industries. However, this move by Goldman Sachs is particularly troubling for that theory because, according to a source with knowledge of the matter, the 1,000 Singaporean jobs are likely to be “high-paying, skilled positions in sales and investment banking.” Whereas highly educated workers may once have imagined themselves immune from the specter of outsourcing, Goldman Sachs has shown that is not the case.
With today’s news, Goldman joins the ranks of top U.S. corporations like GE, Chevron, Intel, and others who have collectively outsourced over 2.4 million American jobs in the past decade.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/28/255724/goldman-sachs-outsource-1000-jobs-singapore/
July 1st, 2011 at 6:18 pm
would anybody rather watch Raider home games at Candlestick Park?
Many Raider fans think that The Coliseum is a dump.
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Two things; first off, it’s a moot point. Al would never allow the Raiders to play at Candlestick. Never.
Second; it’s the team that’s kept fans away from the ballpark, not the facility. Sure, it’s not your state-of-the art NFL stadium, but if the team is winning it goes from a “dump” to the world’s greatest home-field advantage and the fans gain even more notoriety for coming out in droves to see the Raiders in a gritty, old-school evvironment. In other words, we don’t need no Jerry’s World. We’re the Raider Nation and we LIKE it this way.
Winning cures just about everything. Doesn’t mean a new stadium wouldn’t be a great thing, just that a winning team would trump that in the eyes of (at least) most of the Raider fans I know.
July 1st, 2011 at 6:27 pm
KK,
Sachs got their bailout from TARP, which had only 9 Dem’s vote against, and BO voted FOR IT.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00212
July 1st, 2011 at 6:33 pm
There are all kinds of crappy teams (AZ, Cincy, Houston, Denver) that have new stadiums and just as bad as teams as us and average 65K a game.
The stadium features bring out the casual fans. State of the art scoreboards, stupid games and stuff for the kids, bars and restaurants in the stupid and outside of it.
Oakland either has none or very little of that stuff, and they also have the lowest attendance.
No coincidence. They could build a new stadium, go 4-12 next year, and probably double the attendacne from last year.
July 1st, 2011 at 6:51 pm
JFB,
Agreed that new stadiums bring in the casual fan, and that there are some pretty crappy teams out there that bring in crowds despite the product on the field. Absolutely agree that the stadium matters there.
The current reality is that a new stadium or arena for anyone in NorCal is and has been a monumental challenge.
There is plenty of evidence to support your claim about fans coming out to see an inferior product if they like the facility. My point is that if the team is winning, the facility, while still important, becomes much less an issue.
I’m considering the reality of the prospect of a new stadium in Oakland. It ain’t happening in the next couple of years, so the best way to get butts back in the seats is to start winning football games.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:00 pm
I’m considering the reality of the prospect of a new stadium in Oakland. It ain’t happening in the next couple of years, so the best way to get butts back in the seats is to start winning football games.
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No doubt about that.
But an inferior stadium, with even a Super Bowl level team (like we had in 00-02) doesn’t assure sell-outs.
I blame it a little on the quality of TV’s and the need for instant fantasy scores these days. Some people just prefer to watch the game and refresh their fantasy roster 250 times on Sunday, than driving the couple hours to the stadium.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Winning brings out the casual fan.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:08 pm
JFB,
No doubt. Maybe I’m old school, but I go to watch the game. If my team is winning games I really don’t care whether or not I have a three square mile big screen or an interactive freaking experience or an in-stadium shopping mall.
If I want to go to Disneyland, I’ll go to Disneyland.
I guess I understand it on some level; maybe I’m just hoping that people will come out and watch their team because they’re kickin’ ass on Sunday, not because they can go to the metroplex and the football stadium all at the same time.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Remember there was a SI fan voting poll (by fans of their teams), on all the stadiums in different areas of rankings.
Raiders were near the top in tailgating and access to the stadium. But Raiders fans THEMSELVES, rated Oakland Coliseum as the worst fan environment in the league.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:11 pm
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July 1st, 2011 at 6:27 pm
KK,
Sachs got their bailout from TARP, which had only 9 Dem’s vote against, and BO voted FOR IT.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00212
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Whatever, that’s not the point.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:14 pm
I’ve been to Pac Bell Park, the nicest stadium I’ve ever been in, ONCE.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Polls are polls, JFB. They are only worth the opinions of the people that participate in them. It’s an SI.com poll; realistically, how many people voted? How many of those people are regular spectators?
Not throwing the baby out with the bathwater here because I completely agree with you that a new stadium is very important (for a lot of reasons; keeping the team here is no doubt one of them), but I do stand by my statement that current reality dictates that a winning team is going to have to happen first, and may have to suffice for awhile if the team does in fact remain in Oakland. The “fan experience” most likely improves under those conditions as well.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:28 pm
What up Nation! I gotta chime in on this Elway defending JaMarcus crap. Bullshiznit.
Yall know I’m a big time LSU fan so I used to worship the guy. But if Al Davis and the Raiders failed JaMarcus it would be in the fact that upon drafting Russell, Al didn’t name Uncle Ray Ray the offensive coordinator and Russell’s grandma the QB coach.
That is the only way Russell succeeds in the league. Elway can say what he wants. If John Lucas can’t help you…………….C’mon you gotta be realistic about this whole thing Elway.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Owners like new stadiums, of course. More ways to skin the customer.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:54 pm
When I was a kid and the Raiders were one of the two or three best teams in football year after year the Coliseum was still reviled by many. Sal Bando called it “The Mausoleum”.
Raider tickets were hard to come by because the team was winning.
July 1st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
On a different topic, and interesting read for those that don’t think Rolando McClain showed much as a rookie;
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Higher-Education-Stop-Rate-for-Linebackers;_ylt=Ah0A0JIujvtucd5faX8sLSo5nYcB?urn=nfl-wp3044
July 1st, 2011 at 8:15 pm
The days of yesteryear are gone.
22 year old fans aren’t like the most of us.
They want bars, hi-speed interent stations, massive big-screens, and really only watch 40% of the game.
That’s just what it is.
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