Raiders’ priorities when lockout ends
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, July 7th, 2011 at 3:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It seems players and owners are inching along toward a settlement during a lockout which is going pretty much as expected.
If various reports are to be believed (and no one truly knows what’s going on unless they’re sitting in a negotiating room), economic forces and the looming deadline of training camp are collaborating to give fans what they want and expect _ a relatively full training camp experience and a 16-game regular season.
So why all the bluster since the NFL draft?
Because players for the most part were OK with passing on mandatory minicamps as well as voluntary ones that really aren’t voluntary at all. The same goes for participating in the weight program, something most players do simply to stay in the good graces of the organization but could easily do with the help of personal trainers on their own.
The owners were fine with the shutdown because they aren’t truly going to be out any big bucks until game revenues are lost. The economic pie will begin to get smaller once preseason games are lost _ and that’s money out of the pockets of both sides. So suddenly, everyone is getting more serious about getting a deal done.
Once an agreement is reached and the lockout lifted, the Raiders will take a quick look at the new set of rules, probably all of which were anticipated in various scenarios, and throw together the 2011 roster.
(Checked in with a team official this week and was told team is moving forward to train in Napa. Two other teams, the Ravens and Jets, switched from off-site camps to their club facilities because of the lockout).
Here’s a list of their priorities.
– Bring back tight end Zach Miller. He may be an unrestricted free agent depending on the rules. Or he could be retained with a first and third-round tender applied before the lockout. Chances of it happening: Very good.
– Bring back running back Michael Bush. Reports have surfaced (courtesy of Adam Caplan of Fox Sports) that Bush was never actually on the Physically Unable to Perform list for his rookie year but the non-football-related injury list because his broken ankle happened in college. Therefore, Bush in theory is a restricted free agent. Caplan is normally spot-on when it comes to transactional matters so I’ll take his word for it.
Strange that the Raiders would apply a first-and third round tender to a restricted free agent, though _ although I suppose it speaks to the fact they have no intention of letting Bush go anywhere. Chances of it happening: Excellent.
– Bringing back cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Yeah, I know. He’s a Raider until he’s not, etc. Sorry, but when Al Davis publicly floated the possibility of Asomugha going elsewhere to bring back other players, and then Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt got big contracts it was no coincidence. Chances of it happening: Not good.
– Bringing back free safety Michael Huff. No other way to say it than Huff was a major disappointment for three years before he rebounded with a pair of decent (but not great) seasons. If any team out there looks at Huff, remembers him as the No. 7 pick in the draft and writes a big check, expect the Raiders to sit this one out. If Huff can be had for a decent price, it’s a different story. Chances of it happening: About 35 to 40 percent. Some team will offer more than Raiders are prepared to pay.
– Signing an offensive tackle. Langston Walker, Mario Henderson and Khalif Barnes are not under contract. Hard for the Raiders to be truly comfortable with rookie Joe Barksdale penciled in as a starter opposite second-year player Jared Veldheer. Chances of it happening: Oh, it will happen. The question is whether it will be one their own players not under contract or someone on the free agent market who caught the eye of Hue Jackson and line coach Bob Wylie.
– Bringing back left guard Robert Gallery. Perhaps the strangest moment of the offseason occurred when Gallery said he decided to move on after discussions with the Raiders, with John Herrera doing something the organization almost never does _ saying Gallery wanted too much money, anyway. Daniel Loper was signed to a four-year contract. Chances of it happening: Less than zero.
– Bringing back quarterback Bruce Gradkowski. There was zero communication before the lockout between the Raiders and Gradkowski about returning and Kyle Boller was signed to a contract. The team has been turned over to Jason Campbell. Davis has been public in his support of Campbell as well as being concerned (and rightly so) about Gradkowski’s history of injuries. Chances of it happening: Less than zero. Gradkowski is best suited to be someone’s backup, but it won’t be in Oakland.
– Taking Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft. You look at Pryor’s physical skills and there’s no way the Raiders aren’t intrigued, and that’s even if they don’t think he’s a quarterback. But without second- and fourth-round picks, the question is whether they are OK with spending a third-round pick on Pryor. That means they would expect something out of him right away _ as a wildcat quarterback in some packages and playing some receiver. Chances of it happening: I’d call it 50-50. No date has been set for a supplemental draft.
– Signing the draft class. With only one exception, the Raiders bring in their entire class on time every year. Without a first-round pick and with the probability of a rookie wage scale, it will be even easier this time around. Chances of hit happening: A mortal lock.
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July 7th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Just Win Baby
July 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Krappy, you’re like a lovable old circus pet – you do whatever trick I want!
Now post the Raiders record over the last 7 years. Or tell us how much you hate Al Davis.
I’m sure KrappyWife and her bowl cut never get sick of hearing that one!
Hilarious
July 7th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
TE Zach Miller needs to be re-signed.
Re-sign RB Michael Bush. If he’s too pricey, sign RB/FB La’Ron McClain or RB/FB Mike Tolbert.
Re-sign C(/OG?) Samson Satele for depth.
FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete with Mike Mitchell, Tyvon Branch, and Stevie Brown for the starting FS position. UDFA S Joe Lefeged or S Mana Silva could also make sense.
Sign OG Harvey Dahl, OG Justin Blalock, OG/RT Marshall Yanda, RT Tyson Clabo, or OT Jammal Brown for a solid veteran presence on the offensive line.
Go after OT/OG Byron Bell or OT/OG David Mims, DE/DT Brandon Bair, NT Ian Williams and QB Josh Portis as UDFAs.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Thanks Jerry, for my fix!!
July 7th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
There’s a few udfa wr’s that I think are worth bringing in to see if they can show anything with limited reps. Lockette is intriguing from Fort Valley st, Jeff Maehl OR just knows how to get separation and get open, and than DJK from IA. Has character problems but a very good talent. Watched him play a lot this last year and he consistently make plays.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
I know everyone wants the veteran WR, but outside a big signing with Sidney Rice, I don’t see a lot out there at this point.
Maybe Plax and a few others, I think there is less risk bringing in mult udfa’s and see if any stick.
Let’s face it, our current WR’s just gotta step in up this year
July 7th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
I also wouldn’t mind bringing in Tolzien in as well. Sorry, just going thru the list of udfa’s and seeing a lot of names I liked before the draft.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I like huff but I would let him go between mitchell,branch,and stevie brown we have our safties.I would go aftet justin blalock or resign satele and put little wiz at guard.I also would bring back thomas howard to play weakside,he deserves a chance to win his job back and he would.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I also think bruce campbell should get a shot at rt.he is not a guard that was tom cable dumb move.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I like YA’s assessment. Miller and Bush need to be retained. Satelle for depth…exactly, he might actually need to start for a few weeks.
I’m not too concerned with the safety positions, if Huff moves on then Mitchell and Stevie will have to step up.
Veteran O-line help would be welcomed.
Raiders definetly need some QB help though. Not to replace soup but to back him up…Boller? Uhhhgg.
If Chaz stays healthy
Denarius Moore steps right in and DHB learns how to catch, then the WR’s should be fine.
But…you all know this already.
July 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
There is virtually no way Bush is not in silver and black this season. Mr Davis has always had a big back and the only one we have is Bush. You would have to break the bank to get Bush away from Mr Davis………….period
July 7th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I just want to see a winning team this year. Do whatever it takes to make that happen!
July 7th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I think we will sign aso to
July 7th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Raiders!!!
July 7th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
I have floated the thought b4 and will say so again …the Raiders brought insurance with Ausberry. You really have to consider the idea of moving on from Miller. Miller was been getting injured over the past 2 years and suffered the same foot injury this year that slowed down Gates. Miller could have lost a step. Raiders may have smartly drafted his replacement this year.
July 7th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
To explain further: Miller was already slow before the injury. That injury may make him even slower. Not good. But we shall see. Ausberry was drafted to play TE. I think they are looking ahead of ZM. If ZM works out, that’s great but if he doesn’t
July 7th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Ausberry is a project. No way they allow ZM to walk.
Especially since they have had zero time to work with ausberry due to the lockout
July 7th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
[...] the lockout is lifted Al Davis will have plenty to do. There is no shortage of issues that will have to be resolved in a hurry in order to keep the [...]
July 7th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
I think the signing of Bush and Miller should be priority seeing they play a major role in this offense. O line help comes a close 2nd.
Al states the obvious with Grads being injured all the time, but i don’t think that’s why he’s not coming back. If injuries is his case, Chaz isn’t too far behind. I don’t think Al wants any competition with his beloved JC. I’m willing to bet he brings a scrub in for a 2nd or 3rd qb spot, to keep the heat off Jason and doesn’t give Hue any ideas.
July 7th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Raiderfankirk Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
@kk. If calling a blatant liar a liar is a troll. Then yes I’m a troll . I come here to read Raider football. If I wanted to read politics then I would go to a political site. If I hated Al Davis and had no hope for the team I was clamming to be a fan of then I would go somewhere else.
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Gee Man, I was trying to tell you that Dumb Beech was a Troll, and not to bother engaging him in conversation.
July 7th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Ausberry has to make the team and prove he can play on Sundays before he’s considered Zach Miller insurance.
I like the kid’s potential. But he wasn’t drafted as Miller insurance for 2011.
July 7th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
The 6-foot-3, 235-pound Ausberry, the cousin of the famed Smith, was switched from wide receiver to tight end last spring at USC. Jackson isn’t sure which position he’ll play in Oakland.
“We’re going to bring him in here as a receiver,” he said. “But obviously this guy has room for growth. I mean, this guy could get up to 255-260 pounds. Who knows? He might be an unbelievable tight end.”
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Ausberry could eventually replace Myers. I think that was the key in drafting him. Remember they also drafted Gordon.
July 7th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Football Jebus will unite the tribe…Danny u listnin?
July 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Please Jerry…us raider fans can only wait so long for raider updates on this page. I don’t care what you post but damn it post it in a timely manner. Like Once a day minimum. Seriously, we are raider fans! We need our news on the constant.
…by the way good job!
July 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
so much for the theory that cam wasnt a hard worker or lacked the desire to be come great. Cam haters feast your eyes on this.
http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2011/07/newton-running-panthers-offense-in-florida.html?utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral
July 7th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
No, not in 2011. Ausberry is a projection. He is a WR that will, imo, almost certainly be converted to a TE. He projects well. He is faster, probably has just as good of hands, although I don’t know about his blocking.
If ZM goes down again to injury you need a viable threat underneath. If ZM does not regain form you need someone that can come in. I think Ausberry could fill that void and could potentially make the offense even scarier. He has more speed and agility than ZM. Assume that have equivalent hands. The question then becomes how good of a blocker can he be.
ZM slowed down tremendously last year. He could barely get seperation any more. To me, this was obvious. He was not the same player. Hope he bounces back from injury. But if he doesn’t I’m looking at Ausberry.
July 7th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Mistic – I didn’t read the article but still I can tell you that the same propoganda was written about Russell and look what the truth turned out to be. He was a bum.
I don’t think Cam will be a great NFL QB. Not by any stretch. I just don’t.
July 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Tpraider,
Read the article. People on this board claimed that he wasnt interested in hard work or the requisite sacrifice necessary for greatness. So far cam is shutting that bull crap down.
By the way, no one ever said russel was working on his own to be great like cam is doing now.
working with former nfl qbs, already has learned the terminology and line calls ( things they said he couldnt do), and 90% of his play book and that is without the coaches involved!!!
There is no comparison between cam and number 2
July 7th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
I think Ausberry will be a superb TE in this league. He has the size speen and hands of a top tier TE. He is understands how to run routes and he can be taught how to block just like Vernon Davis was taught. I hate to say it but I doubt Davis gives miller a big contract. Hopefully zack comes back but the Raiders got a steal with Ausberry in the 7th round.
July 7th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Ausberry is a physical beast! He definitely has a future with the Raiders.
He will make the team or be on practice squad and then make the team next year, worse case scenario.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Michael Bush broke his right FEMUR opening day Senior year at Louisville.
Not his ankle.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
29. Maybe.
I see him as a back up to #45 at FB too maybe. Imagine the threat Oaklands FBs will be outa the backfield just like Marcel Reece was last year.
If we could do that with Ausberry too…
July 7th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
I don’t Aus is here to replace Miller as much as he’s here for insurance against another injury. Aus can be worked in as a TE because switching from WR to TE at his size is easier. He already was a very good blocker on running plays and just needs to adjust to inline blocking. Which is much different but with his size it’s just learning technigue. The running routes and recieving is easy to do.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
We have a guy at FB and will probably bring in another UDFA FB as soon as the lockout is over. The best way to use Aus is at WR and TE he can do an emmense amount of damage from that slot. Can you imagine this guy flying down the seam of the defense with DHB Ford and DMC as major threats. There’s no way they cover him with a DB it’s going to be the MLB. Total MISMATCH……………period
July 7th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Nah. I don’t think we carry 2 fbs on the active roster. 1 is enough. Plus you already got enough horses in the barn so I do see them coverting him to RB/FB with having Bush, McFadden, Jones, Reece, Rankin, Cartwright et al. He definitely going to be converted to TE imho.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
I think the OL will the factor that determines if we improve or we implode. It would be nice if we could get 9 games out of Schilens, but that is a big if.
The defense could use a little more depth.
This team has potential, but everything is going to have to break our way.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I dont know what the big deal is about the supplamental draft. I say throw a first at him if we have it. If we don’t trade the rest of our picks. This report, a great one by Jerry (He got the idea about Pryor from me), says the Raids have all but locked down the major pieces. If Terrelle is good go for him. It’s the supp draft anyway. I mean can anyone tell me who we’re looking at drafting other than Pryor?
July 7th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I do not know much about the supp draft, never payed attn to the scrap heap hahaha but if he is referring to a whatever round pick in the supp draft needed to grab the guy you want, who cares??? Go for it. Those picks are almost a waste anyways.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’m goin g to gaurantee at least 8 games from Chaz this year, if he doesn’t you can blame me. I just have a feeling this is the year our WR’s show the world they’re here to stay.
Don’t sleeep on this kid Denarius Moore I’m telling ya’ he’s for real. How we got this kid is beyond me but here’s my early prediction that he will be the steal of this draft for the SnB.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
And if they do trade supp picks to get the guy they want that doesn’t mean he must contribute right away …not at all! Heck, the guy would technically be a 8th or worse round pick lol
July 7th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
If Campbell goes down this season will be lost. Boller, Frye or a rookie? I don’t think Campbell is a top tier QB but if all the pieces are in place he will be adequate.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
I’ll say it again man Pryor has the potential with hard work to be a fantastic talent if we can get him for anything under a 1st rndr it will pay off. That kid is a fabulous competitor and loves to win. He just wins baby….
July 7th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
There is virtually no way Bush is not in silver and black this season. Mr Davis has always had a big back and the only one we have is Bush. You would have to break the bank to get Bush away from Mr Davis………….period
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The nice thing about Al being the owner is he won’t cheap out on players he thinks we need. Now if what he thinks is in anyway based in reality then we a game plan.
July 7th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Can anyone name 1 other player we’re looking at in the supp?
July 7th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
39.priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’m goin g to gaurantee at least 8 games from Chaz this year, if he doesn’t you can blame me. I just have a feeling this is the year our WR’s show the world they’re here to stay.
Don’t sleeep on this kid Denarius Moore I’m telling ya’ he’s for real. How we got this kid is beyond me but here’s my early prediction that he will be the steal of this draft for the SnB.
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Truth about DMOORE….My lock for RON….
July 7th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
I haven’t not watched any of DMoore. Googled some clips …I try not to put much weight on highlights but pay more attn to the nuances …his route running looks pretty smooth and polished for college, has soft hands …’natural’ is a good word for it ….lacks that breakaway speed or at least elite speed from what I could tell.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Maybe comparable to Crabtree? (I’m not ocmmitted to that thought, again, this is just off a few clips but its the 1st player that came to mind …great route runner, soft hands, but lacks elite speed).
July 7th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
T’pin he runs a solid 4.4 he was one of the fastest players they had but what you’re seeing is his route running. Great route runners usually don’t look fast in doing it. They look fats after the catch, the key to great route running is precision not speed. You can be quick in and out of breaks but it’s precision and then turn on the jets once the ball is in hand. The best players transition from the catch to a runner almost seamlessly. Jerry Rice’s transition was such that you hardly noticed that he caught the ball because transition was so quick the catch was almost incidental. That’s when you know the nuances are second nature. Anthony Carter was the best I ever saw transition from route to catch to runner in the blink of an eye and he would explode out of the catch Rice was second. But Moore has some of that in him.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
LMFAO at make believe boy.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’m goin g to gaurantee at least 8 games from Chaz this year, if he doesn’t you can blame me. I just have a feeling this is the year our WR’s show the world they’re here to stay.
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Wow TJ, Kinda makes Justin Fargas seem like Cal Ripken Jr.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
– Bringing back cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Yeah, I know. He’s a Raider until he’s not, etc. Sorry, but when Al Davis publicly floated the possibility of Asomugha going elsewhere to bring back other players, and then Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt got big contracts it was no coincidence. Chances of it happening: Not good.
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Why Al? Mr Aso has done a good job for you and could be a huge piece of the mysterious defensive puzzle if you got all the other correct players in their places. Go for it grand master. Sign Aso and complete the team.
Not keeping Namndi is a serious mistake. Like him or don’t like him, he is good and I would hate to see him on an opposing team we would need to beat. No way.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
4.4, really?!? Yeah, he looked so smoooth I couldn’t tell. I still wouldn’t say elite speed but 4.4 is pretty dmn solid! He can do some damage with that. So shall I say a faster version of Crabdiva without the attitude? ..ha …then its crazy we got this guy so late. just crazy.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
– Bring back tight end Zach Miller. He may be an unrestricted free agent depending on the rules. Or he could be retained with a first and third-round tender applied before the lockout. Chances of it happening: Very good.
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This is a must. No question about that.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
T’pin that’s why I said what I said it doesn’t make sense that this kid lasted that long.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
504 It is what it is….
July 7th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
The owners were fine with the shutdown because they aren’t truly going to be out any big bucks until game revenues are lost. The economic pie will begin to get smaller once preseason games are lost _ and that’s money out of the pockets of both sides. So suddenly, everyone is getting more serious about getting a deal done.
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I highly doubt Al Davis was fine with the shutdown. Lets hope they realize the economic crunch before it pinches them in their arse so we can get on with the season. GO RAIDERS!
July 7th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
DMOORE was the best pick of the 2011 draft and like I said is going to outperform ALL WR’s not named JFORD…
DMOORE <——is your 2011 2012 RON
July 7th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Hope you guys are right about this Moore kid. If he performs well. Then I don’t see a place for dhb, unless he turns it on early.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If one of the new of the new wr turns it on early then dhb has to beat out Murphy and Chaz.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
I am all for depth. If Coach Jackson beleives we need a vet WR then so beit however, if we dont get one I am OK with that. I will ride with the Young guns….
DHB is on sucide watch I hope he steps his game up.
Him playing up to his potential will be good for the NATION….
July 7th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Hell. For tha
July 7th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
That matter he has to beat out both to start. Ford is the slot, and you find other ways to get him on the field.
July 7th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Once an agreement is reached and the lockout lifted, the Raiders will take a quick look at the new set of rules, probably all of which were anticipated in various scenarios, and throw together the 2011 roster.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-NFL-continues-the-re-writing-of-the-rule-boo?urn=nfl-150662
July 7th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Yeah and you have to account for TJ, Reece, and ZMILL getting some snaps also…Good problem to have…
July 7th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Higher-Education-Stanford-Routt-and-the-touchd?urn=nfl-wp3180
July 7th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
I dont know what the big deal is about the supplamental draft. I say throw a first at him if we have it.
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You really want to spend next year’s first round pick on Terrell Pryor?
What if Soup gets hurt, and we go 4-12??
You going to waste a probable top 5 pick in the draft, for a guy that doesn’t have a defined NFL position as of now??
That’s crazy-talk!!!! We already don’t have a 2nd and 4th in next years draft, we need to keep what picks we have, and offer a 5th for Pryor, and consider it a gift if that secures him (I doubt it will).
July 7th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
I think it is pretty amazing that Taiwan Jones went around the same draft spot as Mike Bush.
Both were hurt their final collegiate season, but Bush was a Heisman trophy candidate, and one of the most sought after HS athletes in the last ten years.
Taiwan left high school as a kid who couldn’t read (literally although it wasn’t all his fault) and couldn’t even get into a D-1 school. Nobody knew who he was 3 years ago, and Mike Bush was a feature article in Sports Illustrated as a 17 year old.
Shows you how much stock is put into pro-day workouts these days.
July 7th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
The more important question on the supp draft, is will be it be held after the NFL already grants teams added compensatory draft picks due to losses in free agency.
I don’t think it will, but with losing Nnamdi (and reportedly set to get a 3rd out of it) and whatever the NFL might give us for Huff and Gallery, those could be added chips to use for Pryor.
As it stands now, we only have a 2012 1st, 3rd or 5th and higher to offer, and I doubt the 5th will be high enough to grab him.
Should we or shouldn’t we with the 3rd rounder take Pryor, and hope that we will get one 3rd round (albeit at the very end of the round) back from losing Nnamdi?
July 7th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Vegas, good read on TJ…new he had learning problems but not that bad.
As for Pryor…I say we pull the trigger! McNabb and VY wouldnt work for us.. we need a back-up QB!
July 7th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Vegas, while you were out here…did you ever get a chance to go to the Callaway Golf Center?
My boy got us a couple of rounds for tomorrow…isn’t it like one of the top courses in Vegas?
July 7th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Hope you guys are right about this Moore kid
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I never heard of him or watched him play, but you can get some good highlights on youtube. Looks impressive.
July 7th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Oh, but DHB’s college highlights look good too.
July 7th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Callaway golf center is right there on the strip, just north of the outlet mall right? If so, I played there a couple of times.
I believe it is a very nice 3 par course, with lights so you can play on the late night.
Not up there with the TPC Summerlin and Bali Hai’s of the town.
I used to play Wild Horses in Henderson a lot.
July 7th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I wonder how close we are to the first preseason game.
July 7th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Kirk Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I wonder how close we are to the first preseason game.
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Lets hope preseason is right on time so we can get goin, get the Raiders a SB victory and for Al Davis and finally once and for all shut his detractors up, It is what it is, get a clue detractors.
July 7th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
RaidersforLife what should we base his talents on, a cartoon? The only thing we can go on is his play on the field. I’ve watched the guy play in a couple of games and what you see in his higlights is what I saw.
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July 7th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Oh, but DHB’s college highlights look good too.
July 7th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Just silly statements like Raidersforlife make you wonder what’s going through their heads. Why base one kids future on what someone else did. They are two different humanbeings. DHB has zero to do with Moore. I guess because DHB’s career is what it is maybe we shouldn’t draft another WR……lol
July 7th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Like the moron who said until we prove we can develope a QB we shouldn’t waste a draft pick on one…………..huh?????
July 8th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Davy Jones Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
MR/Raider, before convining all of us, why not try convincing Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden? Just saying, if you can’t get them to believe this BS, why should we give your conspiracy theory any credit whatsoever?
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What conspiracy theory? The fact that Ron Wolf has won a Super Bowl without Al Davis, and that Al Davis has NOT won a SB without Ron Wolf is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a fact. It’s an indisputable truth. And, Ron Wolf knows it. The fact that he doesn’t talk about it doesn’t make it any less true.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:02 am
If Al Davis is a players’ owner why doesn’t he unlock his gates and let his own players practice? If there’s some rule disallowing him to do that, why not at least speak out against the lockout? Short answer: He’s no players’ owner. That’s all a gimmick. A shameless attempt to separate himself from the rich, greedy herd of owners. He doesn’t even pay his players. Contracts are back loaded.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Priority Number 1: Larry Fitzgerald
July 8th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Cornfucious say nfl owners who lock out players don’t want payers coming through doors. But Cornfucious also say owners need players to come through doors. Cornfucious think owners heave head stuck so far up rear end that they get very little air to breathe and can’t think clear.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:39 am
Cornfucious say nfl such a joke with lock out even make lawyers laugh all the way to bank.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:41 am
That should be IF lockout ends….
Thanks for the football news Jerry.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:46 am
It might have been Cornfucious who said this….5% of men like women with long legs,5% of men like women with short legs and 90% of men like something inbetween………….
July 8th, 2011 at 4:36 am
@Kell sorry bro. I get a couple of beers in me and sometimes I can’t help myself.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:43 am
Maybe someone can clear this up for me. How does supplemental draft picks. affect next years draft?
July 8th, 2011 at 5:09 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Davy Jones Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
MR/Raider, before convining all of us, why not try convincing Ron Wolf and Jon Gruden? Just saying, if you can’t get them to believe this BS, why should we give your conspiracy theory any credit whatsoever?
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What conspiracy theory? The fact that Ron Wolf has won a Super Bowl without Al Davis, and that Al Davis has NOT won a SB without Ron Wolf is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a fact. It’s an indisputable truth. And, Ron Wolf knows it. The fact that he doesn’t talk about it doesn’t make it any less true.
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Ok Madden Raider let’s try this again….When the Raiders won their first superbowl, Ron Wolf was in Tampa Bay, so is that that what you call “an indisputable truth”?
“I had an opportunity to learn from — to me — the greatest figure in the game today, Al Davis. He knows every aspect of the game of professional football –
not just the X’s and O’s but from the business standpoint and the talent standpoint. He is totally involved, and he taught me. I was very, very fortunate
to work for him.” Ron Wolf.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:33 am
raiderfankirk Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 4:43 am
Maybe someone can clear this up for me. How does supplemental draft picks. affect next years draft?
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Easy.
That is what the supplemental “draft” is, giving up next years picks for a guy.
There is no “draft” per se. Teams just put in a bid more or less, on what pick in next years draft they would be willing to give up for a player. Whatever team has the highest bidded round gets the player, and loses that pick in the next draft.
For instance, if the Raiders offer a 3rd rounder for Pryor, and no team offered a higher round pick, or no team that drafted ahead of the Raiders this year offered a 3rd rounder, next year in the 3rd round, the Raiders will be skipped, and Pryor will be on the roster this season.
Last year, I think only two guys were taken in the supp draft, and they teams only had to use 7th rounders to get them.
You also can only offer picks that you have in the draft. Since the Raiders don’t have a 2nd or 4th rounder in the 2012 draft, they can attempt to use a 1st or 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th in this year supp draft. If they put in a bid (say a 5th for Pryor) but another team bids a higher pick, the Raiders obviously don’t lose their 5th rounder.
Hope that clears it up. Teams are basically bidding next years picks, to get a player this year, that didn’t declare for the draft this year originally.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:37 am
Lots of talk about the Raids not being able to develop a QB.
How much truth is there to this ?
Raids have certainly had a problem identifying and drafting quality NFL QBs, but developing them ?
What QBs were on the Raider roster, failed to be ‘developed’ by the Raids, and went on to success elsewhere ?
Buerlein ? JaMoron possibly ? Tui ? Walter ?
Marinovich ? Hobart ? Wilson ?
Are we to believe that the Raids not only failed to develop these QBs, but actually ruined their careers ?
Perhaps Walter. Andrew took a wicked beating and appeared shell (pardon the pun) shocked. Couldn’t revitalize his career in NE though. Still lacing them up in the UFL, book not entirely closed.
JaMoron ? Debo will say Raids ruined him. Story not over yet.
But I honestly don’t see where the Raids failed to develop the rest of these guys. I think it’s more accurate to say they were draft day whiffs. Surely some other teams could have developed these guys since the Raids just couldn’t or wouldn’t do it. Have to ask why it didn’t happen.
One other point. It’s commonly said and accepted that the only QB the Raids ever developed was the Snake.
This is wrong.
The Raiders developed Jim Plunkett. Not NE. Not SF. The Raiders.
It was Al Davis and the Raids that recognized that Plunk was an immensely talented QB thrust into a terrible situation in NE, beaten down, injured and relegated to the scrap heap by the whiners. It was the Raids that gave Plunk the time to heal and recuperate and learn the Pro game.
Plunkett was rescued and developed by the Oakland Raiders.
Imagine if JaJason suddenly blossoms into a good NFL QB. That might put to rest the ‘Raids can’t develop a QB’ idea.
In my opinion, the odds of that happening are slim to none. But if by some miracle it does occur, there will be those that refuse to alter their thinking and won’t give the Raids any credit.
If and when JaJason flames out, the Raids have to draft and develop a QB or attempt to find another veteran to salvage. But the Raids must never adopt the attitude that they can’t develop a QB.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Aloha Friday! In need of breakfast! Gabby, breakfast and coffee for the boys!
July 8th, 2011 at 5:48 am
I love how everybody is big fans of Dennarius Moore now.
I put him in every one of my mock drafts (albeit in the 4th round) and nobody talked about him.
When I would throw out general questions like, why aren’t we talking about drafting this Moore kid, good size, 4.43, productive in college, only hardcore draft guys like Young American would even comment on him.
I think the kid could be very solid, not spectacular, but a very consistant, dependable NFL WR.
And I thought that, BEFORE THE RAIDERS drafted him.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Southwick will get Al back to glory
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BSJ,
Danny Southwick is the 3rd string QB for the Tampa Bay Storm in the Arena Football League.
Sadly, he might still be the best starting QB we’ve had since Rich Gannon. Unleash the intern!
July 8th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Simple enough. Thanks JFB. If Walter is playing and getting reps he could be a future option. Still remember Moss pulling for him to get on the field.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:58 am
players for the most part were OK with passing on mandatory minicamps as well as voluntary ones that really aren’t voluntary at all. The same goes for participating in the weight program, something most players do simply to stay in the good graces of the organization but could easily do with the help of personal trainers on their own.
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So who was Eddie Anderson babysitting this offseason?
Bush, Murphy, Ford & Henderson all got arrested, didn’t they?
July 8th, 2011 at 5:59 am
the question is whether they are OK with spending a third-round pick on Pryor.
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Jer,
we DO have a 3rd rounder? draft TP!
July 8th, 2011 at 6:02 am
What did Ford get popped for ?
July 8th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Man I thought this past draft was boring without a first-rounder.
If they did give up their 3rd rounder for Pryor in the supp draft, next year we will have a 1st rounder…….than nothing until the 5th round!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Thought I saw Danny playing the other night, so I went and looked it up. I didn’t even realize who he was until I saw you guys talking about him. Any how I did see him playing. He is now their starting QB after joining the Tampa Storm late in their season.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:19 am
Raids ain’t taking Pryor in the 3rd unless they think he can be a QB.
Can’t see them investing a 3rd on a project WR, a position he hasn’t played, based on Pryor’s athleticism.
You either think he can eventually play QB or you pass on him. A 5th, maybe.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Southwick’s last game with the Storm is July 23rd.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Ford wasnt arrested this offseason. The only ’scandal’ of sorts was the porn company using his likeness without his approval, and it was him and 3 or 4 other players that they used.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:24 am
100 correct
July 8th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Im sorry but Im not like all of yall on here….this Denarious Moore RON schit is doing too much. Yeah Ford was a good call by Theculation last season but its not happening this year at the WR FOR THE ROOKIE. He hardly bout to pplay. For a SEC wr I wasnt impressed highly impressed with his game. This Moore fantasy of him being a number 1 wr is laughable for this season
July 8th, 2011 at 7:19 am
If Wiz or Barksdale arent the RON…..we are fked…..I hope Moore aint the RON cuz that will mean we sucked again in 2011
July 8th, 2011 at 7:29 am
RON?
July 8th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Not a bad scandal to be in if you ask me.
Bauce did you notice in that list of things Jerry mentioned needed to get done there was no mention of a WR?
July 8th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Let’s just hope we don’t hear Wiz and Barksdale’s names very much in 2011.
And not for the same reason we didn’t hear Bruce Campbell’s name in 2010.
July 8th, 2011 at 7:42 am
666….jerry is a Vernon Davis 49er jersey skirt wearing moron. For a sportswriter he is wrong ALOT. We have not one player on the roster who can get 70 rec 1000 yards 8 tds. No number 1…..bad news………and yes Im not joking about Vernon Davis if you know what I mean
July 8th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Bcz….RON IS ROOKIE OF THE NATION
July 8th, 2011 at 7:44 am
YA….wiz and barks will start at C and RT for sure…..one of them have to be RON or were in trouble. This Dmoore schit is ridiculous
July 8th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Yeah Jacoby Porn is awesome for being in that scandal
July 8th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Damn Josh Cribbs doesnt think a deal will be reach until next month…..ouch!
July 8th, 2011 at 7:52 am
According to Schefter: 8th Circuit ruled NFL cannot lock out players not under contract — rookies, free agents – because there are no employment relations…
With that being said, neither side is happy because of this!
July 8th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Al isn’t going to go out and get a veteran WR. If he didn’t do it last year, he’s not going to do it this year. He wants to wait and see if DHB will establish himself as the #1 guy. DHB will have to make no progress whatsoever in 2011 for Al to go out and find another WR in 2012.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Barksdale = Kwame Harris 2.0
Guy who has never reached his talents, would rather read popular science than a watch a football game, and will not sacrifice his body for the sake of the game.
I remember when Mayock was blasting him during the East-West game. Apparently Barksdale was getting schooled in his practice reps during the week, and than the next day he said he had an injury, but wouldn’t let any of the trainers look at him.
Mayock, and he said many other team sources he spoke with, believed that it was contrived by Barksdale and his agent to feign injury, to not further his draft stock by performing poorly during the rest of the week.
Who really knows, but I remember watching that, with him on the sideline during the game in a hoody, on the bench by himself, not even paying attention to the game, and thinking, no way in hell do I want that guy on the Raiders.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:08 am
YA yep and that retarded move can cost us bigtime. Hope DHB gets a high ankle sprain in august
July 8th, 2011 at 8:10 am
VR i remember that too……oh brother
July 8th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Hwnrdr who cares if either side is happy with it….get the deal fkin done
July 8th, 2011 at 8:19 am
I know right? I wanna tailgate already!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 8:22 am
He is now their starting QB after joining the Tampa Storm late in their season
Southwick’s last game with the Storm is July 23rd.
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Kirk,
D-Smooth signed with the Storm on May 16th. He has played in 3 games
He’s 4/6 for 49 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT at this point. They have a 6-9 record right now (3 games left)
BRIAN ZBYDNIEWSKI, GRANT GREGORY & MIKE POTTS all have more pass attempts than he does
July 8th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Bauce Rules Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 8:08 am
YA yep and that retarded move can cost us bigtime. Hope DHB gets a high ankle sprain in august
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Agreed. “Reach” for Nicks or Harvin at #7 instead, and we’re not having this conversation.
It didn’t take a scouting genius to realize pre-draft that Nicks and Harvin had real WR skills and DHB did not.
Nor did it take Sigmund Freud to realize that Nicks and Harvin (even with Harvin’s pot “scandal”) were the type of guys you want on your team, not a dude like Crabtree.
And Al obviously KNEW the Raiders needed a WR. JaMarcus needed help badly, either at WR or on the offensive line, if he was going to make any progress.
Frustrating to watch it all play out, especially knowing that the Raiders recently passed on both Aaron Rodgers and Calvin Johnson.
If I ever stumble my way into a stupid amount of money, I’m going to buy this team and hire a real f***ing GM.
Al has done a decent enough job in the last couple years of turning things around in spite of the MASSIVE failures in the first round, so I’ll give him some credit. But turn around even one or two of the first-round blunders where we took JaMarcus, DHB, or ____________ (insert name of DB who is a poor system fit here), and that could be the difference between 8-8 in 2011 after wandering in the wilderness for seven years, and being a competitive team capable of winning in the playoffs.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Barksdale = Kwame Harris 2.0
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Al Davis loved both players.
Unfortunately, Barry Sims is probably better than the pair of them and he went undrafted!
July 8th, 2011 at 8:29 am
“Reach” for Nicks or Harvin at #7 instead, and we’re not having this conversation.
It didn’t take a scouting genius to realize pre-draft that Nicks and Harvin had real WR skills and DHB did not.
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I would add Crabtree, Maclin, Britt & Wallace to this list
DHB belongs in the Brian Robiskie, Mohamed Massaquoi, Derrick Williams & Brandon Tate category imo
July 8th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Word, I just mentioned Nicks and Harvin because I was really hoping before that draft that Al would “reach” for one of them. And he DID reach, it was just for DHB instead of a guy with football skills.
Part of me is hoping the Titans tire of Kenny Britt and the Raiders can go get him for a mid-round pick. Kid’s got all the talent in the world, but makes some stupid decisions off the field. Kind of a Santonio Holmes situation. Maybe in 2012, if the Raiders get a QB in the draft… but this is probably just me dreaming of ways that the 2009 draft could be rectified…
July 8th, 2011 at 8:38 am
I think Barksdale’s future is probably at OG. But he’ll get every chance to start at RT as a rookie.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:49 am
126. Been chatting with Mario Henderson. He let slip he’s vying for RT too.
gawd knows we need that postion shored. Been years…
July 8th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Mario and Barksdale will be going for RT spot….I was told same thing but plan is for Barksdale
July 8th, 2011 at 9:15 am
DHB=” I have no WR skills and I need hands nowwwwww! CALL JG WENTWORTH 877 BUST-NOW…..877 BUST-NOW”
July 8th, 2011 at 9:20 am
DHBeast is going to make a few of you real full on crow.
Will that be BBQ’s or Deep Fried?
Can’t believe probably the hardest working guy on the team is getting the Jamarcus treatment. So what he was drafted higher than he should have been. He was a consensus first round prospect.
The guy was 4 for 4 in the Indy game and 2 for 3 against the Jags in terms of balls caught. Some of you act like he was getting the ball thrown his way and he is either dropping it or doing nothing with it.
I thought the complaint was JC not getting the ball to the WRs?
Hue is going to get the WRs the ball this season and DHBeast is going to contribute. Stop setting the bar at Pro Bowler or else he’s a bust. Heck, you gave the bum Gallery how many years?
July 8th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Of course Mario Henderson is in the mix for the starting RT spot. He backed up Walker there last year, and actually got on the field.
I’m fine with Henderson starting at RT. And if Barksdale can beat him out, even better.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:32 am
The Oline is going to be our MVP this season.
Because of our improved pass blocking, our offense is going to score an extra TD or so per game!
JC, DHB, Chaz, Miller, Ford, and Murphy are going to have career years.
Because of the passing game explosion, McFadden and Bush will face 6 and 7 man fronts and have ridiculous #s!
Watch!
July 8th, 2011 at 9:36 am
DHBz fkin sux until we see 60 catches and a 7-8 td season….fugg all that bs that you stress
July 8th, 2011 at 9:38 am
60 catches, huh?
How many time do you think he needs to be targeted to get to those #s?
NONE of our WRs get the ball tossed their way enough to put up those #s.
Next time you run into Hue and JC, you should bring this up.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:40 am
DHB to a football= ” why you wanna treat me so bad? You know I love you (guitar rift)…How could ya do this me? You knowww I love you (guitar rift)”
July 8th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Divide 60 from 16 games for a starter and what do you come up with? Im not askingg for schit in all honesty. Muthafka getting 7 mil 7 fkin millilion dollars….jhill think you bettter hit the links again and no negga not pork links
July 8th, 2011 at 9:45 am
I led the Russell sucks chant week3 in 09 vs dungver….dont think the Bauce wont start a DHB sucks chant
July 8th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Why bring it upp to JC or the Hue-man? Coach already said he needs to step up…..thanks
July 8th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Speaking of pork, sum bomb smoked applewood bacon just got pulled outta the skillet, lol!
July 8th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Your Russell rants were based on inside information and mostly character issues.
DHBeast is arguably the hardest working guy on the team, so I don’t see the comparison.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:55 am
You have to have the ball thrown your way at least 6 or 7 times a game to get 60 catches. There would be games where he was targeted less than twice.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:58 am
All you so called “raider” fans need to give DHB a break. The kid is barely coming into his third year!! Remember he came out when he was a sophomore, so in actuality he is barely in his First year, if he had come out as a senior. Besides all that the WR position is known to be the most difficult position to transition from coming out of college. All this hating sounds all too familiar to me! Can any one say DMac? Yeah just like everyone wanted him tradedor cut, but instead made all of you shut the f**k up. Hopefully DHB will do the same and I can call all you fools out just like I did when DMac turned it around.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Looking at the seating chart for the Coliseum …
Which side is the Raider sideline?
Section 142 or 117?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:10 am
JHill…more towards 117…
July 8th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Raider side is in the shade as well, from what I remember.
AFter about 8 beers, baking in the sun for 3.5 hours will wear on you.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:12 am
I sit in 130 and that is at the end corner of the endzone…it goes up from there, leading to the visitors sideline…
July 8th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Got my tix stub from the ‘02 AFC championship game right here next to my degree in the office.
Sec 346, row 4, seat 2 (uncle had seat 1).
Best seats on Mt. Davis!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Lol…there are good seats on Mt. Davis?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:15 am
North Endzone is where its at!
July 8th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Ok, thanks!
Which side is the Black Hole, 104 or 129?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Lol…there are good seats on Mt. Davis?
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When you are a poor college kid, yes there is, lol.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Elboocho Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 9:58 am
All you so called “raider” fans need to give DHB a break. The kid is barely coming into his third year!! Remember he came out when he was a sophomore, so in actuality he is barely in his First year, if he had come out as a senior. Besides all that the WR position is known to be the most difficult position to transition from coming out of college. All this hating sounds all too familiar to me! Can any one say DMac? Yeah just like everyone wanted him tradedor cut, but instead made all of you shut the f**k up. Hopefully DHB will do the same and I can call all you fools out just like I did when DMac turned it around.
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I’m not a fan….dont insult me like that
Guy has 35 catches under 500 yards and 2 tds….thats good for a rookie….sorry but not for 2 total years….he sux right now
Everyone wanted DMAC cut? Now you are over exaggerating patna. Ever seen the rue the day list from Dakota? Yeah now shut that down cuz you never called me on the DMAC thing
July 8th, 2011 at 10:17 am
The only sweet seat I need is right in front of my 58 incher. No, the other one.
Dudes I’m kicking it old school in my Frank McCourt outfit and nappy dreds get up. My ladies are playing some Purple Rain and shooting silly string all over the penthouse. Fridays, huh?
Where’s that old fool Krappy, the King of the Trolls, and his sassy little grandson Brian the Genital?
Gotta get my AM Kelly Family Smackdown in before we hit the jacuzzi.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:18 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Ok, thanks!
Which side is the Black Hole, 104 or 129?
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Put it this way the North Endzone is better than the Blackhole….thats all you need to know
July 8th, 2011 at 10:18 am
North Endzone is where its at!
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My other uncle that has season tix (Alameda county sheriff) is right there maybe 15 rows up.
Has 4 seats, the first 4 seats from the isle.
If you see a stuffy looking dude, with a blatant cop mustache, that’s the fam!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I think I’m going for around the 30 yd line of the Black Hole side on the Raider sideline.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Master Beeecham Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:17 am
The only sweet seat I need is right in front of my 58 incher. No, the other one.
Dudes I’m kicking it old school in my Frank McCourt outfit and nappy dreds get up. My ladies are playing some Purple Rain and shooting silly string all over the penthouse. Fridays, huh?
Where’s that old fool Krappy, the King of the Trolls, and his sassy little grandson Brian the Genital?
Gotta get my AM Kelly Family Smackdown in before we hit the jacuzzi.
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Beecher what new Nick Jr fantasy tales do you have to tell us today? Tell us more about the 91 freeway and Marina Del Ray running together lol
July 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I think I’m going for around the 30 yd line of the Black Hole side on the Raider sideline.
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Then you wont be where its at!!!!…Just playing….my dawg Drexl is over there…its cool
July 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Stub Hub doesn’t reference the north end zone. Is that section 130?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:22 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Speaking of pork, sum bomb smoked applewood bacon just got pulled outta the skillet, lol!
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Such a house negga lol….pork is a no no bruh
July 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am
If DHB pulls a DMac, I’ll take a large crow platter with a foot-in-mouth shake and hot sauce on the side. And I’ll eat it happily.
Sure, it isn’t DHB’s fault where he was drafted. And yes, he’s one of the hardest working guys on the team. In fact, I like the kid’s attitude a lot.
It doesn’t change the fact that for the last two seasons, the Raiders could have had a guy capable of helping the team immediately.
At least DMac showed flashes of being a dominant player in his first and second seasons. DHB has shown no such potential yet.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Stub Hub doesn’t reference the north end zone. Is that section 130?
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124-129 basically….best spot in the house in my very unbiased opinion lol
July 8th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Anyone got the scoop on Ralph Wilson stadium seating charts??
Where’s Bcz at???
Looks like there is plenty of lower deck seats for around $65.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:25 am
YoungAmerican Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am
If DHB pulls a DMac, I’ll take a large crow platter with a foot-in-mouth shake and hot sauce on the side. And I’ll eat it happily.
Sure, it isn’t DHB’s fault where he was drafted. And yes, he’s one of the hardest working guys on the team. In fact, I like the kid’s attitude a lot.
It doesn’t change the fact that for the last two seasons, the Raiders could have had a guy capable of helping the team immediately.
At least DMac showed flashes of being a dominant player in his first and second seasons. DHB has shown no such potential yet.
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99 pct of this I agree with
July 8th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Anyone got the scoop on Ralph Wilson stadium seating charts??
Where’s Bcz at???
Looks like there is plenty of lower deck seats for around $65.
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Ya know I never been there but heard from many close friends and family that its garbo out that way. Hope you fly in Saturday night and you leave Sunday night lol
July 8th, 2011 at 10:29 am
DHB has two meaningless, garbage-time TD’s in his career.
That’s what gets me most about his production, no meaningful TD’s yet.
Even in the AZ game, when he drew what should have been the game-winning PI call. He was completely playing for the call, and not the ball.
Does any elite WR do that? Hell No, they go for the ball, draw the call anyways, and try to catch it and house it.
DHB did everything he could to get the call, and he did, and it was not a bad play. Just goes to show you the little amount of confidence he has in himself, when in a clutch-time, he is playing for the bailout from the ref.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Brian the Genital, I’ve never seen someone get so excited over a typo before. But the fact that you use LOL as much as your gal pal Brittany Spears, pretty much explains everything.
Remember when you told the whole blog that you have the same measurements as Tyra Banks, now THAT made all of us “laugh out loud”!
Man, I always feel so much better after my first Genital Smackdown is complete. Now I’m getting warmed up – where Krappy?
SIPPIN ON GIN AND JIGGITY
July 8th, 2011 at 10:30 am
The Black Hole is in 104…North End Zone is 124-131
I agree with Bauce…North End Zone is better than the Black Hole…if you want to watch the game!
JFB, I hear ya, bro! before I got season tix, I used to hunt for the cheapest available also!
July 8th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Plan is to fly in on Thursday, stay in Canada, do Cooperstown all day Friday, do some Niagara falls touristy-stuff Sat, and watch a Raider victory on Sunday. Leave Monday.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:32 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Your Russell rants were based on inside information and mostly character issues.
DHBeast is arguably the hardest working guy on the team, so I don’t see the comparison.
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There are a good amount of players who work very hard so what are you saying?
As for Russell…..Jhill you know better……you and I were on raidernews.com in 2007 and I was totally against Russell’s sorry ass from jump. But I did want Brady Quinn at QB lol….but only becuz we were running the WCO. Made more sense with Kiffin. I tried to warm up to Russell but this guy just wasnt an NFL qb.
No one up here would give a schit about character issues if you can ball. DHB is a nice guy I bet and works hard but he hasnt produced and I have seen no evidence that 201 will bring anything to change my view. Being hardcore honest with you. HE WILL NEVER BE A TOP NOTCH STARTING WR IN THE NFL
July 8th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Plan is to fly in on Thursday, stay in Canada, do Cooperstown all day Friday, do some Niagara falls touristy-stuff Sat, and watch a Raider victory on Sunday. Leave Monday.
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Sounds solid…..I wonder how you will fare with the black call girl missions in Toronto lol
July 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am
DHB had two games last season where he was targeted five times, and in those two games he had one reception for two yards.
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence from a QB. Especially one who is already too careful with the ball and sometimes hesitant to take shots downfield. When your team needs you to contribute to come away with a win, and you’re given multiple opportunities to make a play and your offense gets nothing in return? That makes it hard to justify you being on the field. Especially when guys like Jacoby Ford and Louis Murphy are finding ways to contribute. Hell, Chaz played for two games and has the same amount of TDs that DHB had all season.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Dweebs, my ladies want to bust some Benihana’s for lunch but that place is mo wack.
Although a couple honies from the Peruvian National Volleyball team will be there doing sake bombs, so it could be worth a look. Either way, they’re going to have to mack with me in my Frank McCourt get up because there’s no way I’m taking this off until Sunday.
Still waiting on Krappy, King of the Trolls to show his ugly old head. Sorry Brian, but gotta call em like I see em.
BROS VS HOES IN 2015
July 8th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Master Beeecham Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Brian the Genital, I’ve never seen someone get so excited over a typo before. But the fact that you use LOL as much as your gal pal Brittany Spears, pretty much explains everything.
Remember when you told the whole blog that you have the same measurements as Tyra Banks, now THAT made all of us “laugh out loud”!
Man, I always feel so much better after my first Genital Smackdown is complete. Now I’m getting warmed up – where Krappy?
SIPPIN ON GIN AND JIGGITY
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Oh now its a typo? Ok Beecher….so you talk about reach arounds and men’s body size…….whoaaaaa very suspect….before I was just joking around but now I’m convinced….ouch little fella
Smackdown? You have yet even raise a hand
July 8th, 2011 at 10:42 am
YoungAmerican Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am
DHB had two games last season where he was targeted five times, and in those two games he had one reception for two yards.
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence from a QB. Especially one who is already too careful with the ball and sometimes hesitant to take shots downfield. When your team needs you to contribute to come away with a win, and you’re given multiple opportunities to make a play and your offense gets nothing in return? That makes it hard to justify you being on the field. Especially when guys like Jacoby Ford and Louis Murphy are finding ways to contribute. Hell, Chaz played for two games and has the same amount of TDs that DHB had all season.
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This is all I’m saying…out of the four WRs we have which two being starters could you trust more thru a 16 game if healthy….big if I know but I’m asking which two are your starters
For my Money Chaz and Murphy skill sets are more suited to start in today’s NFL. Ford is a perfect 3WR like AZ Hakim….What does DHB bring to the table? I see nothing and that rookie we got possibly will outplay him. Please
July 8th, 2011 at 10:44 am
It doesn’t change the fact that for the last two seasons, the Raiders could have had a guy capable of helping the team immediately.
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Really?
Again, I would argue that we have not had a WR friendly gameplan in Oakland in quite some time. The plan has pretty much been run the ball, run the ball, and run it some more.
We would need to target a WR 6 or 7 times a game for them to get the type of #s ur looking for. We just don’t do that. Those attempts are going to the TEs, and RBs.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Genital, you’re the one who told the whole blog (go back and find it in your “archives”, ha ha!) that you have the exact same measurements as a woman.
You should be thanking me that I matched it up with a popular celebrity. C’mon now, little Genital – keep up.
Or are your panties still in a bunch because I stole your “I get all the ladies” blog personality? Now that’s some classic Kelly Family humor!
Genital Smackdown #2 complete. Man, now I’m actually starting to get pumped for some teppan action!
Any of you losers know how to sanitize a bean bag?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:51 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:44 am
It doesn’t change the fact that for the last two seasons, the Raiders could have had a guy capable of helping the team immediately.
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Really?
Again, I would argue that we have not had a WR friendly gameplan in Oakland in quite some time. The plan has pretty much been run the ball, run the ball, and run it some more.
We would need to target a WR 6 or 7 times a game for them to get the type of #s ur looking for. We just don’t do that. Those attempts are going to the TEs, and RBs.
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I totally disagree with this assessment. The talent just hasnt been there. WE do pass the ball we just havent been good at it
July 8th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Does any elite WR do that?
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This is the problem.
No one is saying that DHB will be an elite WR or a guy who validates being drafted #7 overall.
The guy can catch a lot of the ball thrown his way, imo. Yes, he will drop his fair share just like Murphy does. But get the ball in his hands on quick routes and let’s see if he can translate than athleticism to some nice YAC.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Master Beeecham Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Genital, you’re the one who told the whole blog (go back and find it in your “archives”, ha ha!) that you have the exact same measurements as a woman.
You should be thanking me that I matched it up with a popular celebrity. C’mon now, little Genital – keep up.
Or are your panties still in a bunch because I stole your “I get all the ladies” blog personality? Now that’s some classic Kelly Family humor!
Genital Smackdown #2 complete. Man, now I’m actually starting to get pumped for some teppan action!
Any of you losers know how to sanitize a bean bag?
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I’m the same height and weight as alot of CBs and WRs in the NFL lol…..so you telling all of us that our players on the Raiders have the measurements of women?
July 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Trade Jon Condo for Carson Palmer!
Don’t bother responding.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:55 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Does any elite WR do that?
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This is the problem.
No one is saying that DHB will be an elite WR or a guy who validates being drafted #7 overall.
The guy can catch a lot of the ball thrown his way, imo. Yes, he will drop his fair share just like Murphy does. But get the ball in his hands on quick routes and let’s see if he can translate than athleticism to some nice YAC.
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Murphy has doubled even arguably tripled what DHB has done as a WR…..thats sad
July 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Trade Jon Condo for Carson Palmer!
Don’t bother responding.
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This is why we need more Bo! LOL
July 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
I think DHB has proven so far, that he is at his best as a possession WR and a solid YAC guy (when he isn’t fumbling reverses).
The down the field ability to adjust and catch the ball at it’s peak in the air, is comical.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Even if we had elite WRs, we are far from elite at QB and Oline.
Passing success in 2011 will require well executed screens to DMAC and Reece, and ZMiller in the seam.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Most of the players that made up for the 1976 Raiders were drafted/acquired when Wolf was here. Just in case any idiot here is going to use Ron Wolf’s short tenure at Tampa in the late ’70s as some sort of lame rebuttal to the obvious FACT that Al Davis has NEVER won a SB without Ron Wolf.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Murphy had the same amount of TD’s in a 5 minute span (in Pittsburgh no less) than DHB has had in over 25 starts.
Murphy gets the benefit of the doubt on some dropped passes, he has earned it.
DHB will recieve only scorn on his dropped passes, until he has a Louis Murphy-in the 4th quarter-in Pittsburgh moment.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:00 am
One of the homers said this morning that the Raiders developed Jim Plunkett? smh…
July 8th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Even if we had elite WRs, we are far from elite at QB and Oline.
Passing success in 2011 will require well executed screens to DMAC and Reece, and ZMiller in the seam.
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Well QB will always be a concern as long as the oline stinks lol. I’m not asking for the oline to even be elite at least be solid and they have not been
Bo if we gotta do hella screens and seam routes we in big trouble again
July 8th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Ha ha, Brian the Genital, how long has your mom been trying to get you to believe that?
Little Genital: “But Mooooooom, I look just like Molly Ringwald!”
Mother Genital: “Of course you don’t, poopy. You look just like the CBs and WRs on the Raiders.”
AWESOME!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:00 am
One of the homers said this morning that the Raiders developed Jim Plunkett? smh…
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Yeah Ninerwoman49 is tripping on that one obviously.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Master Beeecham Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Ha ha, Brian the Genital, how long has your mom been trying to get you to believe that?
Little Genital: “But Mooooooom, I look just like Molly Ringwald!”
Mother Genital: “Of course you don’t, poopy. You look just like the CBs and WRs on the Raiders.”
AWESOME!
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Lame South Park rift….yadda yadda yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn. Not good enough Beecher. You still have yet to raise a hand.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am
No, Kell, according to Raiderman99, the Raiders developed Jim Plunkett. lmao
July 8th, 2011 at 11:05 am
KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
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LOL…..and it starts
July 8th, 2011 at 11:07 am
If you can’t teach QB play, you can’t win.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:07 am
This is all I’m saying…out of the four WRs we have which two being starters could you trust more thru a 16 game if healthy….big if I know but I’m asking which two are your starters
For my Money Chaz and Murphy skill sets are more suited to start in today’s NFL. Ford is a perfect 3WR like AZ Hakim….What does DHB bring to the table? I see nothing and that rookie we got possibly will outplay him. Please
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If health wasn’t an issue…
Chaz would be the #1, with Murphy and Ford seeing roughly the same amount of snaps throughout the season. If one of them starts outperforming the other, increase their reps. I think Ford could be a star in the making, IF he has a bigger possession receiver playing across from him. Chaz is that guy when he’s healthy. Murphy is as solid a #3 as you’ll find in the league (if he had Drew Brees throwing to him, he could put up Lance Moore’s numbers).
Hue should do for DHB what he did for DMac – just ask him which plays he likes and find a way to integrate them. I kind of want to see them do some catch-and-run type stuff with DHB. If speed and size are his biggest assets, then get him out in space where he can use it.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Kell which number will it be today? Will it be 43 pct or 57 pct? Will you use both? Tune in Next post…..same Kell time, same Kell channel
July 8th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Krappy, King of the Trolls, you cut and pasted your own nonsense from yesterday. A new low, old fool.
But I love it.
BTW I’ve been smacking around your grandson Brian the Genital all morning so if she’s a little cranky today, you’ll know why.
PIMPING SOUTH CENTRAL BEEV WAX PATROL
July 8th, 2011 at 11:09 am
There’s something, or somebody in that organization, that will not allow Good QB play.
Not good.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:09 am
you and I were on raidernews.com in 2007 and I was totally against Russell’s sorry ass from jump. But I did want Brady Quinn at QB lol…
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I remember that, lol.
You were telling me how we needed Quinn over Adrian Peterson.
Turns out I was right again, lol.
This franshise woulda been much better off with Andrew Walter and Adrian Peterson. Don’t know what Walter did to piss Kiffin off, but I think that was the first mistake Kiffin made.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:10 am
I just dont have enough confidence in DHB. Hue got DMAC going last year….where was DHB again?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I’m so glad the Ranger fan that took a plunge was white. My goodness if he were a minority we would be hearing it today, about how their culture is incompetent, they behave like animals, etc. Since he’s white, it’s just condolences and prayers.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Question of the day:
Who would you trade DMAC for in a straight up trade?
I would nominate either Stuart Schweigert or Doug Gabriel
July 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
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Do the bootlickers have anything to say regarding the above?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Has anyone heard that Vahldere is goinig to play center ??? Where does Wiz 2.0 play?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:17 am
If Al Davis is such a genius
Why hasn’t he been able to develop a QB in 43 years?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:18 am
WTF does “their culture” mean MR? Stop hating America! WE are all US.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Really?
Again, I would argue that we have not had a WR friendly gameplan in Oakland in quite some time. The plan has pretty much been run the ball, run the ball, and run it some more.
We would need to target a WR 6 or 7 times a game for them to get the type of #s ur looking for. We just don’t do that. Those attempts are going to the TEs, and RBs.
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I’m not saying he needs to have a 1,000-yard season and ten touchdowns. I’m saying he has a long way to go before even being a solid contributor. He’s had as many, if not MORE opportunities than every other receiver on the roster, and he’s contributing on the same level as a 7th round pick who was injured all season, and an undrafted rookie who never sees the field.
You’re right, the Raiders haven’t had much QB stability. But Larry Fitzgerald puts up ProBowl numbers with Max Hall, John Skelton, and Derek Anderson throwing to him. I’d be happy to see DHB get half of Fitzgerald’s production.
And there were several games where the running game was shut down. The receivers NEEDED to make plays, and had plenty of chances to make plays. But the Raiders lost pretty much every game where the running game couldn’t get off the ground (the first KC game being the exception).
July 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am
No, we’re not, Bo. Not all of us are dumb enough to extend out for a ball and risk going over a rail.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am
I wonder how often KK gets the “Oops! It looks like you already posted that” error message.
Mocha latte en la cabeza…
July 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am
MR,
You played that exact same, lame-race card, LAST YEAR, when a fan fell (at another Rangers game no less).
You are becoming a predictable, caricature of yourself.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
There goes Krappy, King of the Trolls, begging to get some attention with his lame, recycled post.
Old fool, don’t you have a Broker’s Tour to pretend to go to? Or at least a trip to the barber shop?
Anything HAS to be more interesting than trying to get attention from nerds on a football blog. No?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
210.RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:20 am
No, we’re not, Bo. Not all of us are dumb enough to extend out for a ball and risk going over a rail.
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Stop worrying. I’m sure one of your close buddies would grab you before you fell. Go ahead and lean bro…
July 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Brien, Jhill,!!!!
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
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Do the bootlickers have anything to say regarding the above?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:23 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:09 am
you and I were on raidernews.com in 2007 and I was totally against Russell’s sorry ass from jump. But I did want Brady Quinn at QB lol…
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I remember that, lol.
You were telling me how we needed Quinn over Adrian Peterson.
Turns out I was right again, lol.
This franshise woulda been much better off with Andrew Walter and Adrian Peterson. Don’t know what Walter did to piss Kiffin off, but I think that was the first mistake Kiffin made.
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I still stand by that too. How were you right. Adrian Peterson is off the roids bruh. Hate to break it to ya. Peterson is playing behind a damn damn damn damn good oline. He is a good player but giving the juice he is on you would expect him to hit at least 1500 a year on the ground and that aint going down. And right now the guy has had hella carries on them legs. We got DMAC n Bush I’ll take that
Looking back Calvin Johnson was prolly the best bet
July 8th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Speaking of the fan falling, real classy touch from Ray Fosse here on the broadcast.
He laughs at him, and says he just wanted to get on the jumbotron.
He should be fired immediately.
http://thestir.cafemom.com/sports/122800/baseball_announcers_laugh_as_fan
July 8th, 2011 at 11:26 am
YoungAmerican Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:34 am
DHB had two games last season where he was targeted five times, and in those two games he had one reception for two yards.
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You’re talking about the Houston game. Agreed, that was a terrible game for DHB . That was one game early in the season.
Did DHB even play in the SDG game? I certainly don’t remember him dropping 5 passes that game. Sounds like I need to bust that game out on the DVR.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Alrighty then, off to the gym.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Bo, is the behavior that guy demonstrated yesterday typical “American” behavior? Are Americans really that stupid anymore? China must be watching footage of that today and thinking, “we got this locked”.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Since old fool Krappy didn’t get a single response on his lame post, he’s decided to address two bloggers by name in a sad attempt at attention.
King of the Trolls, how low are you going to sink today?
Don’t answer that – just keep sinking!
HOLLA BACK HALLE BERRY
July 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am
KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Brien, Jhill,!!!!
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
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Do the bootlickers have anything to say regarding the above?
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That isnt an issue for me….you mention it all the time but I’m not against bringing guys that have started somewhere else. The 43 years thing you are overblowing. We havent had a real damn QB since Plunkett is the problem at that position. And as I said yesterday been some bad personnel moves for Al. I’ve disagreed with a number of moves myself
July 8th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Vegas, take your meds. Fosse didn’t know he was dead. It’s not Fosse’s fault this idiot tried to test the laws of gravity. It’s nobody’s fault but his own.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:29 am
The Oline is going to be our MVP this season.
Of course Mario Henderson is in the mix for the starting RT spot
DHBeast is going to make a few of you real full on crow.
Will that be BBQ’s or Deep Fried?
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LOL!
did Priest TJ hijack Jhill’s account?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I’m so glad the Ranger fan that took a plunge was white. My goodness if he were a minority we would be hearing it today, about how their culture is incompetent, they behave like animals, etc. Since he’s white, it’s just condolences and prayers.
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Kinda harsh man dont you think? He died in front of his son. Hell yeah condolences and prayers for that KID!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:31 am
HA HA!
After 2 sad attempts at attention, old goat Krappy throws in the towel! Time to trot his oversized rear end off to Family Fitness Center for some much needed cardio.
Does it get any lower than an unemployed 70 year old fool getting shunned by football bloggers?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Ah, but his grandson just can’t bear to see the old goat go out like that.
PRICELESS
July 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
One fan has already died this year at another stadium, less than 2 months ago.
You would think an announcer might be a tad more sensitive when seeing a guy take a digger, instead of laughing and mocking him.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
I led the Russell sucks chant week3 in 09 vs dungver
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BAUCE,
no you didn’t. your boy Narco Bob started that chant the day JaWalrus was drafted!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:35 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:29 am
The Oline is going to be our MVP this season.
Of course Mario Henderson is in the mix for the starting RT spot
DHBeast is going to make a few of you real full on crow.
Will that be BBQ’s or Deep Fried?
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LOL!
did Priest TJ hijack Jhill’s account?
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Mario Henderson pass blocking wise would be decent at RT but run blocking would be a sick and sad affair. Thats why we need Barksdale ready cuz he can run block
July 8th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Brien, he died in front of his son because he tested the laws of physics in front of his son. A smart person just doesn’t extend out over a ledge like that, under any circumstances. Even to catch a ball from Josh Hamilton. Just like a smart person doesn’t sell dope in front of his house, with his kid in the front yard, only for his son to get shot in a drive by. It just comes down to common sense!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:37 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
I led the Russell sucks chant week3 in 09 vs dungver
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BAUCE,
no you didn’t. your boy Narco Bob started that chant the day JaWalrus was drafted!
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RRS….I was at the game that day starting it….Bob didnt like him day 1 and never tried to warm to him. I didnt want him and JHILL witnessed in 07 but I tried to give the dude a shot until he was out here acting a fool.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:38 am
Vegas, he fell in an area between the stands and the fence. Fosse couldn’t see how severe the injuries were. It’s neither here nor there. Fosse has nothing to do with an idiotic fan taking his own life, with his own stupidity.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:39 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Brien, he died in front of his son because he tested the laws of physics in front of his son. A smart person just doesn’t extend out over a ledge like that, under any circumstances. Even to catch a ball from Josh Hamilton. Just like a smart person doesn’t sell dope in front of his house, with his kid in the front yard, only for his son to get shot in a drive by. It just comes down to common sense!
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MR…..common sense should tell you we all KNOW THIS SCHIT! You being absolutely super rough about it. Some things go without saying. Let it go bruh
July 8th, 2011 at 11:40 am
KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Brien, Jhill,!!!!
The Raiders haven’t developed a QB in 43 years!!!!!!
Organizational Incompetence.
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Do the bootlickers have anything to say regarding the above?
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That isnt an issue for me….you mention it all the time but I’m not against bringing guys that have started somewhere else. The 43 years thing you are overblowing. We havent had a real damn QB since Plunkett is the problem at that position. And as I said yesterday been some bad personnel moves for Al. I’ve disagreed with a number of moves myself
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Bad personnel moves……really?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Fire Fosse!!!
He sucks anyways.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:42 am
MR….seriously what’s the deal with you preferring the guy to be white? Aren’t you white?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Fox should hire Fosse to do the World Series. WS audience is a little more intelligent than the day to day baseball audience, and smart people would appreciate Fosse’s on-point humor. I think Fosse took it easy on him, to be honest. He should have worked in a few “dumb redneck” jokes to boot.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Hue should do for DHB what he did for DMac – just ask him which plays he likes and find a way to integrate them. I kind of want to see them do some catch-and-run type stuff with DHB. If speed and size are his biggest assets, then get him out in space where he can use it.
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That’s all I’ve been saying.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Not sure why fans go so crazy over a baseball though.
I have caught two balls in my lifetime, one from Carney Lansford, and some dude from the Astros I can’t even remember.
I got one of the balls autographed by a bunch of former pro-guys when I went to Vida Blue’s baseball camp, and I don’t even know where the other one is.
You see dudes fighting, spilling beer everywhere, trying to catch the ball in one hand with their kid in another, and what happened yesterday.
It’s just a baseball!!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Fire Fosse!!!
He sucks anyways.
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Please Ray Flosse is the man still and a title winning All star kind of catcher. The broadcast are dope and he shows no bias period. Our stuff has always been better than SF
Spare me your Giants announcer crap. That schyt makes me wanna go to sleep. I’d rather listen to Vin Scully not talk about baseball watching a Dodgers game than the losers you’ve had. Even in the old KTVU days everything about the Giants is on some lame square schyt. You can gloat this one fluke title you got but you’ll never win another one and the Giants will always be the A’s b-tch.
Its the like the rich well to do guy getting constantly outdone by the poor urban cat. So awesome
July 8th, 2011 at 11:47 am
didn’t the Raiders develop Gannon into an MVP after KC went with Grbach
July 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I have caught two balls in my lifetime, one from Carney Lansford, and some dude from the Astros I can’t even remember.
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And a broom
July 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I’ve never understood baseball fans, either. It’s the most boring sport ever invented. I notice a lot of white, middle class, conservative Americans take baseball almost as seriously as national security. The whole nostalgia thing. My goodness. They’ll talk about going to games when they were a kid, and you can see them tearing up. lol. I’m not joking.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Hue should do for DHB what he did for DMac – just ask him which plays he likes and find a way to integrate them. I kind of want to see them do some catch-and-run type stuff with DHB. If speed and size are his biggest assets, then get him out in space where he can use it.
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That’s all I’ve been saying.
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Why didnt Hue do it last year when he didnt have as many responsibilities?
July 8th, 2011 at 11:49 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I’ve never understood baseball fans, either. It’s the most boring sport ever invented. I notice a lot of white, middle class, conservative Americans take baseball almost as seriously as national security. The whole nostalgia thing. My goodness. They’ll talk about going to games when they were a kid, and you can see them tearing up. lol. I’m not joking.
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Baseball is dope
July 8th, 2011 at 11:50 am
That guy yesterday made it exciting, though. Hey, now I have a reason to watch baseball! If these dumb bumpkins in the stands are going to keep tumbling off the third deck to catch foul balls, I’ll tune in daily. We can make a drinking game out of it.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:52 am
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Fox should hire Fosse to do the World Series. WS audience is a little more intelligent than the day to day baseball audience, and smart people would appreciate Fosse’s on-point humor. I think Fosse took it easy on him, to be honest. He should have worked in a few “dumb redneck” jokes to boot.
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LMAO…youre a cold ass**le for that, but it was funny. Cant say Fosse wouldnt be dope on FOX . I say FOX should have Gus johnson and Ray Fosse on the mic. The comedy would be instant classic I bet with great calls on the game
July 8th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Kind of like watching NASCAR for the wrecks. There’s no other reason to watch a bunch of dumb rednecks drive in circles. These guys would be bagging groceries if this sport didn’t exist.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Even in the old KTVU days everything about the Giants is on some lame square schyt.
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Well Ron Fairly definately sucked, I didn’t like Hank Greenwald that much, and we got Lon Simmons way too late.
But Jon Miller?? Awesome!! Greg Pappa filling in for Miller?? Even awesomer!!
And Kruk and Kuip?? The awesomest!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Man…MR I wonder what happened with you and white people growing up. I guess in your area they didnt take too kindly to ya and the black kids befriended you and then you started your hatred of white people. Self hate does no one any good
July 8th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Fox should bring Fosse to the World Series broadcast team just in case a fan topples off the upper deck. They can make a segment out of it. “Now it’s time for Fosses dumb ingrate fan joke!”
July 8th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Baseball is my favorite sport.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Even in the old KTVU days everything about the Giants is on some lame square schyt.
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Well Ron Fairly definately sucked, I didn’t like Hank Greenwald that much, and we got Lon Simmons way too late.
But Jon Miller?? Awesome!! Greg Pappa filling in for Miller?? Even awesomer!!
And Kruk and Kuip?? The awesomest!!!
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Kruk and Kuip=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. They brought old school KTVU back with those two
Miller gets a pass cuz he is from God’s country so I cant diss him
Greg Papa that A’s announcer who is now the mouthpiece of the Bay Area filled in for for a sec you mean? Yeah I got ya lol
July 8th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Ah, Brien, I’m just joking. Calm down. You get so defensive when people make fun of rednecks. You like those cats. I don’t know why.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mario Henderson pass blocking wise would be decent at RT but run blocking would be a sick and sad affair. Thats why we need Barksdale ready cuz he can run block
Bob didnt like him day 1 and never tried to warm to him. I didnt want him and JHILL witnessed in 07 but I tried to give the dude a shot until he was out here acting a fool
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Bauce,
your RT is typically a road grader. You put your TE over to that side and cram the ball down thier throats, with Reece leading the way.
Mario Henderson is a finesse tackle. He’s soft. So if a D-Lineman sheds him quickly the TE or FB are matched up with him instead of a LB or DB
everybody wanted JR to suceed in Oakland. Bob called him a bust from Day 1 so Bob was really the first Russell critic of Raider Nation – thats all I’m saying
July 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Brien, that guy who fell yesterday probably would have saved you from falling. He would have pulled you up with a rope tied around your neck.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Kind of like watching NASCAR for the wrecks. There’s no other reason to watch a bunch of dumb rednecks drive in circles. These guys would be bagging groceries if this sport didn’t exist.
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MR,
and what exactly would so many today’s athletes be doing if basketball or football didn’t exist?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Oh, jeez. You have to be kidding me. ESPN’s outside the lines is now going to discuss stadium safety. Because of course that’s what this is really all about. Poor railing. Never mind human stupidity. Why do you think the rail’s there in the first place? What good did it do? Dumb fans are going to take a chance, no matter what kind of security you put up. They’d be better off putting no rail there. No rail, nobody takes the chance. I’ll bet you at the end of the day, rails just make steep edged more unsafe. They bring up the death toll, because so many stupid people get an illusion of safety from the rail and test its limits.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
You get so defensive when people make fun of rednecks. You like those cats. I don’t know why.
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that’s because you’ve never met any, Eminem
July 8th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Mario Henderson pass blocking wise would be decent at RT but run blocking would be a sick and sad affair. Thats why we need Barksdale ready cuz he can run block
Bob didnt like him day 1 and never tried to warm to him. I didnt want him and JHILL witnessed in 07 but I tried to give the dude a shot until he was out here acting a fool
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Bauce,
your RT is typically a road grader. You put your TE over to that side and cram the ball down thier throats, with Reece leading the way.
Mario Henderson is a finesse tackle. He’s soft. So if a D-Lineman sheds him quickly the TE or FB are matched up with him instead of a LB or DB
everybody wanted JR to suceed in Oakland. Bob called him a bust from Day 1 so Bob was really the first Russell critic of Raider Nation – thats all I’m saying
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I dig what you mean man
July 8th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RRS, I don’t know what basketball and football players would be doing if there was no basketball or football, but I know they would sound a lot more coherent than NASCAR drivers.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Kind of like watching NASCAR for the wrecks. There’s no other reason to watch a bunch of dumb rednecks drive in circles. These guys would be bagging groceries if this sport didn’t exist.
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MR,
and what exactly would so many today’s athletes be doing if basketball or football didn’t exist?
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LMAO….worse than us
July 8th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Rockstar, I never met a cave man, either. But I dont’ need to meet one to know that they’re marginally intelligent, like rednecks.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RRS, I don’t know what basketball and football players would be doing if there was no basketball or football, but I know they would sound a lot more coherent than NASCAR drivers.
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LOL
July 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
ESPN should be discussing fan stupidity right now, nothing else. But of course that would offend so many of their elementary school dropout viewers.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Rockstar, I never met a cave man, either. But I dont’ need to meet one to know that they’re marginally intelligent, like rednecks.
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I know for sure you will be intelligent and never say that to a real live proud rednecks face…..but that comment was funny
July 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
your RT is typically a road grader.
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Well RT was arguably our worst position last year even with a fat guy, err road grader at the position.
I think we will be fine at RT this year simply by getting more athletic at the position. Henderson is a big guy and we NEED the upgrade in pass protection.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
ESPN should be discussing fan stupidity right now, nothing else. But of course that would offend so many of their elementary school dropout viewers.
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What channel were you watching again?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
your RT is typically a road grader.
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Well RT was arguably our worst position last year even with a fat guy, err road grader at the position.
I think we will be fine at RT this year simply by getting more athletic at the position. Henderson is a big guy and we NEED the upgrade in pass protection.
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Big is cool but not fat like Walker. He is like 360 man. Naw 330 max will work for me on the edges
July 8th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Brien, a bear could physically overwhelm me, too. But that doesn’t mean I’ll trust it with the keys to a car.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Mario Henderson is a finesse tackle. He’s soft. So if a D-Lineman sheds him quickly the TE or FB are matched up with him instead of a LB or DB
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Your describing that road grader Langston Walker.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Dude was a fire-fighter that died.
He is a hero, and should be respected as one.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
MR,
so it’s ok to discriminate or judge somebody based upon where they live or how much knowledge they’ve acquired?
If I had to guess, I think most guys that do nascar would be working in construction, mechanics, truck drivers or agriculture – and there’s nothing wrong with that
what about basketball & football players?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Well Barksdale in college didnt give up hella sacks so that is a good sign
July 8th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If I ever do meet a redneck, Brien, I’d prefer to do so under the proper circumstances, with the redneck in a cage. I would have the same demands if I were ever to tell a gorilla to its face that it smelled funny.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Brien, a bear could physically overwhelm me, too. But that doesn’t mean I’ll trust it with the keys to a car.
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So they’re animals?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Vegas, you’re absolutely right. I’ll be sure not to lump all fire fighters in with this idiot.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Brien, are rednecks animals? Well? I mean, do you think they’re human? Have you seen them?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If I ever do meet a redneck, Brien, I’d prefer to do so under the proper circumstances, with the redneck in a cage. I would have the same demands if I were ever to tell a gorilla to its face that it smelled funny.
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You lettin it all out today arent ya?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RRS,
NASCAR drivers working in construction, agriculture…..hahahah!! That’s good.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Brien, are rednecks animals? Well? I mean, do you think they’re human? Have you seen them?
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That’s very low man
July 8th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
If I had to guess, I think most guys that do nascar would be working in construction, mechanics, truck drivers or agriculture – and there’s nothing wrong with that
what about basketball & football players?
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Uhhh what ??????
Why don’t you go ahead and get Kell riled up and tell us what basketball players and football players would be doing, lol.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Oh, Brien, relax. My goodness. They’re jokes! Jokes! Do you know what a joke is? You get way too defensive when people start making fun of rednecks. I love rednecks. They certainly provide entertainment in this country. And they didn’t fail to disappoint yesterday.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Barksdale was the starting LT for LSU, right?
A converted DT, right?
I don’t see the problem.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Your describing that road grader Langston Walker.
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J Wiggle,
I’m not a fan of Langston Walker, ok? I wasn’t a fan of Cornell Green either. I’m certainly not a fan of Mario Henderson.
As a matter of fact, I’m still debating whether or not I like Veldheer & Barnes. It’s a shame Robert Gallery didn’t work out as a tackle. Too bad we cut Barry Sims to bring in Kwame Harris, too!
“Super” Mario is a failure. Go ahead and close the book on him. I’m ready to see what Barks can do
July 8th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Well, we do know that Kirk Morrison would be wearing skinny-jeans and going to fashion shows.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Why don’t you go ahead and get Kell riled up and tell us what basketball players and football players would be doing
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Jhill,
I was asking a question. still awaiting the response
NASCAR is considered a sport. So I compared it to some others – I don’t see the issue
July 8th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
They’re calling it “The fan experience”. You know, risking your life to get a stupid ball. There’s no hope for this country.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Kirk Morrison would be wearing skinny-jeans and going to fashion shows.
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KM has a college degree from SDSU
July 8th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Speaking of no hope, our favorite half-white pres today said that his stimulus did create 2 million jobs (which it did).
$800 billion, to create 2 million jobs (and going backwards now).
That’s $400,000 per job created!!!
There’s no hope for this country.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
The Fan Experience. It’s not his fault he risked his life, and risked making his son fatherless, just to catch a stupid, small round object. It’s just the fan experience, I tell ya! I guess Darwin must have missed the day they taught Fan Experiences in his school.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
FYI -
Morrison was actually a Criminal Justice major
if some of you dudes think he should be a male model, you clearly haven’t been focusing on his superb football skills
July 8th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Anything’s better than a Republican in the WH. If O-bama’s only president another year and a half, that’s fine by me. I’ll just embrace the short time we had without a Republican in the white house. But I think he’s going to win next year, anyway. Tea Party’s going to split the conservative vote. Split vote always results in victory for the other side.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I guess Darwin must have missed the day they taught Fan Experiences in his school.
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and you must have missed the part where the teacher said “incest is a no no” in S3X Ed
cousin humper
July 8th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
RRS,
Do you think the Jags are going to resign Morrison? You think he’ll get Rolando McClain type cheese?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Who will start more games in the NFL next year?
Bruce Gradkowski or Kirk Morrison?
Both have not been offered a new contract, from a team that just had him them on a cheap one-year deal.
Could be a close call. Kirk will certainly get more reps I would think, but I don’t see him starting any games.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Tea Party’s going to split the conservative vote. Split vote always results in victory for the other side.
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Unfortunately true. But not all republicans are conservative. Otherwise a guy like Mike Huckabee would have beat out John McCain. Further evidence I saw a bumper sticker a few months back that said “Republicans for Obooma” – which made me want to vomit
July 8th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
WHO’S MORE LIKELY TO TUMBLE OFF THE UPPER DECK OF A BASEBALL STADIUM, A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN? BWAHAHAHAHA! You guys know the answer. Don’t even lie. I’m glad we have a president that would just sit back and chill with a beer and his ‘ol lady while other idiots chase a little round ball rolling through the stands.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Split votes in the naional election??
No chance. They will all unite for the greater good of the country, because they are a country first type of folk.
Besides, I would bet that true “Tea Partiers” make up less than 20% of registered republicans.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
RSR, you might want to go to the storms website. That is where I got the info on Danny Soutbwick. He has one game wit 5td passes. If he did that being 4of6 then we need to get this guy here pronto. He’s a miracle worker.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
RRS, whatever the case, O-bama’s going to win, and we get at least 8 years without a Republican in the White House. After Bush, we need at least 16 years straight with no Republican in the oval office. Hillary ‘16? ….you betcha!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Do you think the Jags are going to resign Morrison? You think he’ll get Rolando McClain type cheese?
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Kirk Morrison did his job last season, but he wasn’t a Top 10 NFL MLB. He won’t get a $40 million contract like ROMAC because he wasn’t a Top 10 rookie. He’s entering his 7th season and he’s never been to the playoffs
I’m not going to pretend I know what the Jags GM or HC plans are. I know they didn’t draft any LB’s
July 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Vegas, Republicans are going to play it safe with an establishment Republican like Romney, and the redencks out in the sticks are going to be livid. Remember how mad they were at McCain for not taking the gloves off? Romney’s too soft for them. I see P-alin running as an independent. Split vote. O-bama wins. Fine by me. Anything to keep Republicans away from the white house. After Bush, Republicans shouldn’t be allowed near the white house for at least a couple of generations. He’s done enough damage.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Here are the stats from the Storm website.
I see him at 4-6 with a pick
http://www.arenafootball.com/statsdrilldown/TBY.HTM#team.ind
July 8th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Vegas, just curious. Where was the tea party in 2008?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I think Bachman will take over Romney, as she will build momentum early, smash him in Iowa and New Hampshire, than smash him in the debates.
She will than add Pawlenty as VP, and that’s about as good a ticket as the R’s could muster.
I said it from the beginning, no way does BO trot out Uncle Joe for the VP debates if he feels it will be a tough race. Joe will announce sometype of forced retirement, IMO.
July 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Vegas, where was the tea party before ‘08?
July 8th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Nobody votes for VP, Vegas. They said the same thing when Biden debated P-alin. Said O-bama was toast because P-alin beat Biden in their debate. lol.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
The Labor Department reported this morning that the unemployment rate ticked up to 9.2 percent last month, with the economy adding just 18,000 jobs — even fewer than May’s paltry revised figure of 25,000.
*mope & change*
July 8th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
The tea party rose up when purp lips began his marxist agenda. There wasnt a need for the tea party before 08.
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RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Vegas, where was the tea party before ‘08?
July 8th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
But of course the highlight of this blog today is actually Raiderman99’s claim that the Raiders developed Jim Plunkett. That’s today’s lmfao moment.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
TRAIDER, you are a perpetual highlight reel….fyi
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RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
But of course the highlight of this blog today is
July 8th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Job market’s better than what it would be if McCain had won. That’s why O-bama won big.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
O-bama’s agenda was far more liberal when he was running than it is since he’s been president. Why didn’t the tea party “rise” (lol) during the ‘08 election season?
July 8th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
315.RAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
O-bama’s agenda was far more liberal when he was running than it is since he’s been president. Why didn’t the tea party “rise” (lol) during the ‘08 election season?
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That’s just nonsense.
His agenda, and his appeal, was actually much more moderate.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Hey Jerry!
You’re the best baby!
That’s a good comumn under extreme circumstances!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Dam…Jfb looks like you are right. I swear I read that this morning,and I wasn’t even high yet.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Care-of-young-QBs-is-too-often-an-afterthought.html
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Steinberg gets it.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
and I wasn’t even high yet.
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That was the problem maybe???
Need to get the medicine in you and get the mind right.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Some people in here talk like Olineman grow on trees and are walking around waiting for the Raiders to sign and play them. There’s nothing wrong with the players that everyone in the NFL isn’t facing. I’ve said iit before Oline is cohesion not individual dominance.
We have the makings a good Oline it’s matter of cohesion and playing well together. Carlisle and Satele in and of themselves aren’t anything close to dominant players but they are very effective because they’re technically sound. It’s like you people expect 2 Art Shells and 2 Gene Upshaws and Barrett Robbins before you’re staisfied. You have to be somewhat realistic in your approach to field an NFL team. The Packers and Steelers went to the SB with barely better than average Olines. In fact the Steelers were damn near in shambles. You don’t need HOF’s at every position on the line to have a great Line if you did there no way the last SB line makes the grade yet they were the single best Oline in the game. Barry Sims was an UDFA Kennedy wasa Fabulous BUST in Atl. And the rest except BRobb were crapheap players but they gelled into a great unit. That is all you need……………………….period
July 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Hate to see anyone die, especially in front of their kid. Leave it to MR to make it black in white. If the guy happened to be black we would be hearing about how he was pushed by a redneck. LMFAO
July 8th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
TRAIDER, are you defending 0bumbas record by saying it would have been worse if McCain won?
LMFAO
July 8th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Dude was a fire-fighter that died.
He is a hero, and should be respected as one
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I thought you said those guys were “Union Clowns”?
July 8th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
OK I’m gonna take a shot at this and I’m not gonna even act like I know what the hell I’m talking about, but here goes nothing. If you want to fix the country? First unionized Walmart. No problem with them if the employees actually had good jobs. Which would allow small companies to compete and earn a living. Second scrap the IRS. It cost more money to run than it actually collects from the individual tax payer. A straight sales tax makes a lot more since and a lot easier to manage for small business. You use more you pay more. Third create a separate agency to review and remove old and stupid laws. Fourth impose a tax on all imports to bring back production jobs. And finally stop any and all foreign aid. If we could all split the money spent on the middle east we could all retire. There you go country fixed.
July 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Police and Fire = hero’s
Overpaid “risk assessor” or garbage guy who can get replaced by inmate = union clowns
You follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
priesttj Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Some people in here talk like Olineman grow on trees and are walking around waiting for the Raiders to sign and play them. There’s nothing wrong with the players that everyone in the NFL isn’t facing. I’ve said iit before Oline is cohesion not individual dominance.
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THAT Priest is why we’re in deap azz trouble.
Al didn’t resign Gallery-the most consistent lineman last year-because Gallery spoke up for Cable.
Now apparently, we’re not resigning Satele despite the fact that he was playing well at the end of the year.
The only starter we have from last year is Veldheer who played OK-although he got a lot of help from Gallery-and he was a rookie last year.
Sure we have some talented players but like you said it takes “cohesion”. It takes time for an OL to jell.
And when it’s working, why fuk around with it?
We had the 2nd best running offense last year and don’t tell me it was just McFadden and Bush-although I love both of those guys-it takes an offensive line that’s working.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Raider Kirk for prez!!!
(Other than forcing Wal-Mart to unionize)
July 8th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Police and Fire = hero’s
Overpaid “risk assessor” or garbage guy who can get replaced by inmate = union clowns
You follow?
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Oooooh Yeah, I follow.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
So the only workers that should have the right to unionize are Fire & Po-lice?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Why does anyone else need a union?
You and I don’t need one.
Police and fire face unique risks that nobody else, other than military, face and deserve the right to CB.
Some 300 pound office worker?? Take a lap fatty!!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
When wages are high, people can spend, you follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
When people can spend, business’ can hire, you follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
When people EARN their high wage, productivity increases, you follow??
July 8th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
When people EARN their high wage, productivity increases, you follow??
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People who work, EARN their wages, you follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
When people EARN their high wage, productivity increases, you follow??
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Go back and take a Econ 101 class, you follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Business’ can hire right now if they want to. Look at the market and their filings. Profits are at all-time highs in a lot of sectors.
Too much uncertainity moving forward with us in a lame-duck tax code year, uncertainity with pending health care changes, to hire more KoolKell’s to sit around and do nothing.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
People who work, EARN their wages, you follow?
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Painting with such a broad brush you are.
Does Al Davis earn his wage? Jamarcus Russell?
Entitlements discourage hard-work and creativity, and protect the weak.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Business’ can hire right now if they want to. Look at the market and their filings. Profits are at all-time highs in a lot of sectors.
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The demand is too low to hire, you follow?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
OK no union. Just increase import tax for the more you import.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Go back and take a Econ 101 class, you follow?
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I’ll match my transcripts to yours any day old-timer.
And I got my education at a left-leaning, hippy school in Northern California!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Walmart is a cancer
July 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Entitlements discourage hard-work and creativity, and protect the weak.
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Yes some entitlements protect the weak, the blind, the cripple, and the crazy.
And I’m sure your family is collecting it’s share.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Go back and take a Econ 101 class, you follow?
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I’ll match my transcripts to yours any day old-timer.
And I got my education at a left-leaning, hippy school in Northern California!!!
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Sure, blog talk is cheap.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
326.raiderfankirk Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
OK I’m gonna take a shot at this and I’m not gonna even act like I know what the hell I’m talking about, but here goes nothing. If you want to fix the country? First unionized Walmart. No problem with them if the employees actually had good jobs. Which would allow small companies to compete and earn a living. Second scrap the IRS. It cost more money to run than it actually collects from the individual tax payer. A straight sales tax makes a lot more since and a lot easier to manage for small business. You use more you pay more. Third create a separate agency to review and remove old and stupid laws. Fourth impose a tax on all imports to bring back production jobs. And finally stop any and all foreign aid. If we could all split the money spent on the middle east we could all retire. There you go country fixed.
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Abolish the IRS? Uou could do that and have flat tax although that would eliminate things like the homeowners exception.
How about abolishing Walmart instead since they hire a lot of illegal labor.
A straight sales tax would hit the poorest worst since both poor and rich would pay the same.
Create an agency to review old laws? They actually did that during the Reagan presidency and the pols got around it in the years afterwards.
Impose a tax on imports? That means other countries imposing a tax on the US which will make all that stuff from China cost more.
Stop all foreign aid? Absolutely. HOw about fixing US cities first before money is given away to foreign countries. Anyone seen Detroit lately?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
The demand is too low to hire, you follow?
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What demand?
Consumer demand? Yes, it is a little, as actually personal saving rates have increased the last two years.
People realize we can’t afford to provide such a big nipple down the road, and are saving more and spending less.
But profits are there, and hiring could be as well. Once tax-laws are implemented, whatever they are, even if they raise everyone’s taxes, I think you will see hiring go up.
We have been in a lame-duck tax year for two years now, and businesses need to know what they are looking at down the road to get the books and projections in order.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
When people EARN their high wage, productivity increases, you follow??
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Obviously you don’t know schit about economics.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
And I’m sure your family is collecting it’s share.
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Nahh…we are all rolling stones.
Dead by 60, if we are lucky.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
But profits are there, and hiring could be as well. Once tax-laws are implemented, whatever they are, even if they raise everyone’s taxes, I think you will see hiring go up.
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Profits up, wages down.
Productivity = fewer workers, working longer hours, doing more jobs.
Quit bluffing, and take an econ 101 class. That goes for all you republican dummies that ruined this country.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Obviously you don’t know schit about economics.
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Ever study efficiency wages??
It is a Keynesian theory, who I don’t normally agree with.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
WalMart is the American Way …
Get the most you can by spending the least amount of $.
The problem is pretty simple the way I see it.
If I can hire 20 guys in India for the price of one guy here in the US, I’m going Indian. A lot of people will say that I owe it to Americans to keep those jobs here, but I would say I owe it to myself to make my company the most money I can.
Break it down even further, I’ll pay Maria half of what it cost to hire a “real housekeeper”. And so do most Americans. Why is that?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I think the current NFL lockout is a good tool to teach us something about unions. I think anyone who’s been paying attention has seen BOTH sides act like sh*theads. Both unions and management can be corrupted. The questions is: would NFL ownership be treating the players better if there was no union?
You can chalk me up for a “NO” on that one.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
350.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
But profits are there, and hiring could be as well. Once tax-laws are implemented, whatever they are, even if they raise everyone’s taxes, I think you will see hiring go up.
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Profits up, wages down.
Productivity = fewer workers, working longer hours, doing more jobs.
Quit bluffing, and take an econ 101 class. That goes for all you republican dummies that ruined this country.
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Wait a minute! Up to the 2010 election the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the presidency!
July 8th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Only problem is, wages ARE NOT DOWN IN THIS COUNTRY.
Do you even watch the news?? Ever flicked on CNBC and pretend to understand what they are talking about?
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/pinewsrelease.htm
July 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
This is where the facts get in the way for KoolKell, and he just calls me disingenous and other names.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
That’s where all Govts come into play with tariffs and taxes.
Sure, a business man is motivated by profit, especially labor.
So to keep American wages and standards of living from equalizing with India, the Govt incentivizes business behavior to protect the American people.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
352.J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
WalMart is the American Way …
Get the most you can by spending the least amount of $.
The problem is pretty simple the way I see it.
If I can hire 20 guys in India for the price of one guy here in the US, I’m going Indian. A lot of people will say that I owe it to Americans to keep those jobs here, but I would say I owe it to myself to make my company the most money I can.
Break it down even further, I’ll pay Maria half of what it cost to hire a “real housekeeper”. And so do most Americans. Why is that?
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You call a service center and you get some guy in India who speaks “English”?
That’s happened to me and I couldn’t understand a fuk’n word they said.
The main reason why so many companies export their business is the high cost of doing business in the US and one of the main reasons for that is high taxes.
Corporate tax in the US is the second highest in the world.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
350.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
But profits are there, and hiring could be as well. Once tax-laws are implemented, whatever they are, even if they raise everyone’s taxes, I think you will see hiring go up.
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The above is NOT my statement ENGLANDRAIDER!
July 8th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
This is where the facts get in the way for KoolKell, and he just calls me disingenous and other names.
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What facts have you presented?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
See, this is where you should argue that personal income rates are up, due to BO’s tax-holiday on Social Security decreasing from 6.2% to 4.2% this calendar year.
But I’m playing chess while you are playing checkers, my friend.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
The main reason why so many companies export their business is the high cost of doing business in the US and one of the main reasons for that is high taxes.
Corporate tax in the US is the second highest in the world.
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Not remotely true. The US is one of the lowest taxed countries in the developed world.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
See, this is where you should argue that personal income rates are up, due to BO’s tax-holiday on Social Security decreasing from 6.2% to 4.2% this calendar year.
But I’m playing chess while you are playing checkers, my friend.
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I don’t get it, your point?
July 8th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
What facts have you presented?
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That wages are not down in this country, as you said a few times in the last hour.
And an economic theory (a Keynesian one at that!!!) on the theory of increasing pay, leading to higher productivity and higher unemployment.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I don’t get it, your point?
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I think you made it, thanks.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
The Country didn’t start going broke until Reagan and trickle-down economics. Cutting taxes for the wealthy.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
I don’t get it, your point?
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I think you made it, thanks.
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Alright then, go on with your lying assed bullschit.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
That Trickle-down economics of the Republicans is a proven failure.
http://unastronaut.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/120m4471.jpg
July 8th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
362.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
The main reason why so many companies export their business is the high cost of doing business in the US and one of the main reasons for that is high taxes.
Corporate tax in the US is the second highest in the world.
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Not remotely true. The US is one of the lowest taxed countries in the developed world.
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KK, you are incorrect.
The highest corporation tax in the world is in Japan while the second is in the US–which is why so many companies export their business.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Who is talking about trickle-down??
We are talking wages, productivity and the effect those have on unemployment. You know, what is actually going on right now.
Or is that too far outside of your scope of capability??
July 8th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Your such a fkn tease, lol!!!!
Here I am, thinking I am getting cornered into an intelligent conversion, and than you just turn all Ed Schultz on me and start screaming about some guy who hasn’t been president in almost 25 years, and trickle-down.
Outro
July 8th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
CHART: Lower Taxes On The Rich Don’t Lead To Job Growth
However, history doesn’t back up the GOP’s claim. In fact, as Center for American Progress Director of Tax and Budget Policy Michael Linden found, “in the past 60 years, job growth has actually been greater in years when the top income tax rate was much higher than it is now”:
For instance, in years when the top marginal rate was more than 90 percent, the average annual growth in total payroll employment was 2 percent. In years when the top marginal rate was 35 percent or less — which it is now — employment grew by an average of just 0.4 percent.
And there’s no cherry-picking here. Pick any threshold. When the marginal tax rate was 50 percent or above, annual employment growth averaged 2.3 percent, and when the rate was under 50, growth was half that.
In fact, if you ranked each year since 1950 by overall job growth, the top five years would all boast marginal tax rates at 70 percent or higher. The top 10 years would share marginal tax rates at 50 percent or higher. The two worst years, on the other hand, were 2008 and 2009, when the top marginal tax rate was 35 percent. In the 13 years that the top marginal tax rate has been at its current level or lower, only one year even cracks the top 20 in overall job creation.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/28/256605/chart-lower-taxes-on-the-rich-dont-lead-to-job-growth/
July 8th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
359.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
350.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
But profits are there, and hiring could be as well. Once tax-laws are implemented, whatever they are, even if they raise everyone’s taxes, I think you will see hiring go up.
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The above is NOT my statement ENGLANDRAIDER!
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Well I know that KK. I was replying to the last part where you said the Republicans were to blame when in fact up to 2010 the Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, AND the Presidency.
–and I belong to neither party. They’re all crooks and end up millionaires.
July 8th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Your such a fkn tease, lol!!!!
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And you’re such a sleaze. Did you ever bang that waitress in Hell-Paso? Did you tell your wife?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
317.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Hey Jerry!
You’re the best baby!
That’s a good comumn under extreme circumstances!!!
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I meant good column Jerry! Under circumstances of extreme deprivation.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Corporation’s NEVER pay the Corp Tax rate.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Out of more than 30 countries in the
Organisation for Economic Co-Operation
and Development, the United States
ranks fifth from the bottom in total taxes
paid to all levels of government, as a
share of GDP. Total government revenue
in the United States is nearly 25 percent
lower than the average OECD country.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
July 8th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Englandraider yes import tax. Other countries do the same. Why does it cost more to bye a flat screen in Mexico?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
This year, federal taxation will take up less
than 15 percent of total national economic activity. That’s the lowest level in
60 years. In fact, total revenue as a share
of gross domestic product has now been
under 15 percent for three straight
years—the first time that has happened
since before World War II.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
July 8th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
And who gives a shizt if others impose tax as long as what we make is home grown?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
In 2007, the last year before the Great
Recession, millionaires paid just 22
percent of their income in federal income
tax—down nearly 10 percentage points
from the mid-1990s. The richest 400
households in the country—who take in
about $300 million per year on
average—have fared even better. In
2007, they paid less than 17 percent of
their total income in federal income
taxes—down 13 percentage points.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
July 8th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Really wtf do we export at this point? Let it balance out and adjust as needed.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
The U.S. corporate tax has steadily declined
Corporate tax revenue, as a share of GDP
In the 1950s revenue from the federal
corporate income tax averaged about 5
percent of GDP per year. Last decade,
corporate tax revenue averaged just 2
percent of GDP annually. Since 2009,
corporate tax revenue has averaged just
1.2 percent, the lowest three-year average in American postwar history.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
July 8th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
378.raiderfankirk Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Englandraider yes import tax. Other countries do the same. Why does it cost more to bye a flat screen in Mexico?
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Absolutely. That’s exactly why which is why you want to be careful about starting a trade war with the world.
On the other hand what China is getting away with is absolute crap.
They just plain don’t play by the rules and they need some strong US leader to let them know that we’re not putting up with that crap anymore.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Yes f the IRS. Private organization. Sales tax is fair tax. You want socialization or equal opportunity?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
U.S. corporations are taxed less than their foreign rivals
Effective corporate tax rate, OECD countries, 2000-2005 average
U.S. corporations pay a smaller share of
their profits in income tax than corporations in most other OECD countries.
The average effective corporate tax rate
among OECD countries is about 16
percent. In the United States that rate is
about 13 percent. The effective rate is
what corporations actually pay on their
profits after taking various deductions,
deferrals, and credits.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
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Comphrende, EnglandRaider?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Tax breaks and tax loopholes have proliferated
Total cost of all tax expenditures (exclusions, deductions,
Over the past 25 years, Congress has
introduced billions of dollars worth of
special breaks, subsidies, and loopholes
into the corporate and individual income
tax code. Their total value now exceeds
$1 trillion a year.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/pdf/low_tax_graphs.pdf
July 8th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
WoW! Moderator! Did I get a little stroppy?!
THAT is the fastest deletion of any post I ever made!!
Does Al Davis know how fast you are?
He’ll hire you on the spot!!!
July 8th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
KK:
You can as many dubious statistics and sources as you like but the reality is that the US has the second highest rate at somewhere around 35% while Japan has the highest rate at somewhere around 40%.
That high rate accounted for Japan’s economic malaise from which they have yet to recover.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
* quote
July 8th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
EnglandRaider
You can Parrot Trickle-Down talking points, all you want.
I presented facts.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
EnglandRaider
What do you think of Rupert & James Murdock going down in flames in Britan?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
EnglandRaider
Did you know that study after study shows that Fox viewers are the most mis-informed?
Don’t make me google the studies, ok?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
England raider that’s my point. Why feed the world at our expense? We.need to do what ever it takes to bring it home. I long for the fifties. I am one of those poor bastards. Self employed carpenter feeding family of 5. But I’m bustin my azz and taking years off my life while others are collecting a check.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
KK, Vegas, Raiderkirk, have a beer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg78vd0vj3A
July 8th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Krappy, King of the Trolls – please stop spamming the blog with political crap. It’s exactly what the classic troll does.
Go ahead, cut and paste your troll definition post. That is, if you’re back from your cardio jazzercize class at the gym.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Masterbater why don’t you grab your girls (testicles ),partydude8000 (vibrator10000) and jump on one of your party boats (blow dingy /doll). Take a ride to your private island (dumpster)and get on your helicopter (sit in spin)and fly(walk) to Bauce’s house so he can kick your azz.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
394.raiderfankirk Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
England raider that’s my point. Why feed the world at our expense? We.need to do what ever it takes to bring it home. I long for the fifties. I am one of those poor bastards. Self employed carpenter feeding family of 5. But I’m bustin my azz and taking years off my life while others are collecting a check.
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I hear you brother Raider.
These politicians need to get off their pompeous azz!
When Reagan was president he always said that it was always “morning in America!” and that “Americans can always achieve what they set out to do.”
July 8th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Carpenter with a family of 5? Raiderfandork, you shoulda been snipped 3 kids ago.
Son, I’ve got advice that could change your life. Stop wasting time on a football blog and get out there and fix someone’s shingles.
Good grief, venting to strangers on a blog isn’t going to change your sorry lot in life.
I can do it because I’m extremely well off, get mad tail and party serious to kickass jams on my own one of a kind Reggae Party Boat.
Now calm yourself, throw on that workbelt and go hustle some up some jobs.
Do I have to do everything around here?
July 8th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Don’t care for country to much, but pretty dam funny England.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
392.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
EnglandRaider
What do you think of Rupert & James Murdock going down in flames in Britan?
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Rupert Murdoch going down in flames?
That’ll be the day.
That guy is one smart guy. First you buy the local tv station and then you buy the local sports. That’s how he started out in Australia.
That story about him being in a Vegas casino and walking up to a blackjack table and betting $1 million on one play and then leaving?
It’s true.
I love Rupert Murdoch. He’s what America used to be all about.
July 8th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
OK party fairy land liar. Think anyone believes you?
July 8th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Raiderfankirk:
A carpenter huh? Great craft. My daddy was a carpenter.
He came out of the hielands of Scotland, went to England, and became a carpenter and lived a rich and successful life.
I could never get my mind to do it right.
You’ve got one of the greatest trades/crafts of all time man. Takes a lot of talent.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER
You guys assume way too much until you actually KNOW who we are going to lineup. Don’t draw conclusions on what and who will be lining up. It’s not apparent at all that Satele wont be here to me. The only player I hear for sure wont be is Gallery now everyone else is a ?.
There is still a lockout people why do you assume and draw so many conclusions without any facts to back them up. No one knows who will be here until the final cut date and then things could change.
take a deep breath and relax there’s plaenty to talk about without all the hue and cry about any one thing. 2 mos. ago Michael Bush was all but GONE. Hell we don’t know even if Gallery is gone for sure. It’s all speculation at this point the lockout is 120 days old. There was no FA and very little in the way of trades back off the ledge………damn!
July 8th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
My guess is that you are little azz transsexual. Living with a 58 year old man.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Last name’s McCreery.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Dork, it’s only going to get worse for you in here.
You think playing around in the blog will take you away from your miserable lot in life, bills you can’t pay, sloppy overweight wife, redneck dropout kids … the list goes on and on, doesn’t it?
Being jealous of my awesome life is no way to escape from yours, ok?
But whatever, it’s cool Carpenter Dweeb, I can always use another devoted follower. Bottoms up!
July 8th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
So you dont think JC has the goods? Superbowl winnning qb Joe Thiesmann dis agrees.
“The offensive line he had in Washington was just horrible, so you can’t put too much into those numbers he had with Al in Washington,” Theismann said. “It’s all set up for Jason this year — they have a great running game, Hue is back and Al is there so Jason will be working with a system he knows.”
One of the reasons/excuses tied to Campbell so far in his NFL career that he has always had to deal with new offensive coordinators — evem back in school at Auburn. Theismann can buy that.
“He has had system after system, new voice after new voice,” Theismann said. “So, how can you evaluate a Jason Campbell based on that, with no stability? Last year, he came on and finally started to show a little confidence and made some strong sides. The Raiders can be a playoff team if Jason has a good season.”
Sorry fellas, im with Joe on this one
July 8th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
I find it hard to believe that Satele will come back to the Raiders to back up Wiz.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Priest. We got nothing to do but speculate right now.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
What are sateles options is there a bug market for an average zone scheme center, with a ridiculous almost ocd type head bob that telegraphs the snap count.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Masterbater. Laugh…in…your….face! !!!!!!Hahahaha I’m done now everyone can draw their own conclusions.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Priest:
You have the inside track?
I heard that Satelle was gone and didn’t especially want to stay.
Gallery might come back?! If that’s true, there’s some hope since he was the most consistent player last year and important to both Henderson and Veldheer.
You never know Priest.
Can’t say I ever bought any story about Bush leaving. Al lets him go and he’s totally lost it.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Satele can follow Gallery to Seattle.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Yes Priest. Kirk the Krappy Karpenter has nothing to do but speculate right now.
He sure doesn’t have work to pay the damn bills.
And he sure doesn’t want to go home to his five animals – er, I mean kids – and homely wife.
So why not speculate on a football blog all day?
Man, I just cranked up the Brian Adams, poured a nice big Mai Tai from the PARTYBRO 8500 into my life sized replica Stanley Cup and started to mack on one of my 19 year old honies to celebrate!
THE 405 AIN’T NO JIVE FREE LIVIN WHUT WHUT
July 8th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I’m not saying I wouldn’t want Satele back as a backup C, I just find it hard to believe he will settle for that.
Someone will give him the opportunity to compete for a starting job.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
406.raiderfankirk Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Last name’s McCreery.
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That’s a good Scottish name. That clan started out in the hielands.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I’m done now = Raising the white flag
Saw that coming a mile away!
July 8th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Yah what the hell is that is he paided by the other team to tip them off?
July 8th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
416.J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I’m not saying I wouldn’t want Satele back as a backup C, I just find it hard to believe he will settle for that.
Someone will give him the opportunity to compete for a starting job.
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I think you’re right. I’m not saying he’s a great center. Jim Otto he’s not.
On the other hand starting a rookie at center borders on the unbelievable.
I’m glad that Al drafted Wiz but he’s been better at guard. I hope he turns out to be a great center.
How many guys could do that in todays NFL?
July 8th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
McCreery in Scottish actually means “clan that runs for the hielands”!
Fish in a barrel …
July 8th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Hey KK:
You in the VFW or the Legion?
July 8th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The season starting on time is looking good cuz the front office has been playing phone rage like crazy tryna lock down season tickets. Anybody know any deals I should get for lower level seats?
July 8th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Young high energy line. IMO power blocking is an easier scheme to run. Free Blitzer is the back’s response ability. Block or catch.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
77.priesttj Says:
July 7th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Just silly statements like Raidersforlife make you wonder what’s going through their heads. Why base one kids future on what someone else did. They are two different humanbeings. DHB has zero to do with Moore. I guess because DHB’s career is what it is maybe we shouldn’t draft another WR……lol
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Priesttj, all I’m saying is that Moore’s highlights make him look like a future HOF. So did DHB’s. Don’t get me wrong, I hope the best for DHB but what has he done? Highlights on youtube can be deceiving. D. Moore looks like the real deal though.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Hey JFB,
Thanks for the info. Given what I now know I would probably use the 5th rounder on him.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Agreed Kirk.
We got rid of the complicated zone choreographed punk shyyyyttteee.
Our Oline is going to be decent for a change.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
We can all sleep a little easier knowing that Dad’s Army, ala RMR/RAIDER/ and Kool Kell are defending our shores from foreign invaders! Long live Al Davis and the Raider Nation!
July 8th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
420. Actually Beecham it means,” Scots Clan that runs from no one”.
July 8th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
428.Raiderjambo Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
We can all sleep a little easier knowing that Dad’s Army, ala RMR/RAIDER/ and Kool Kell are defending our shores from foreign invaders! Long live Al Davis and the Raider Nation!
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“Dad’s army”?!
How the hell does effin MR fit into “Dad’s Army”?!
July 8th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
EnglandRaider I have the same unfo you have most of the time. I talk from a familiarity more than anything. I was around that organization for about 10 years and I know how they operate most of the time. They place hgh value on the lines both sides and always have they will do whatever they can to get this fixed. I said many times that if Cable didn’t get that done he wouldn’t be here because THAT is why he was hired for the Oline.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Trust me Jambo, if you’ve ever capped on poor Karpenter Kirk it means the exact opposite.
AVOID THE NOID
July 8th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
EnglandRaider
Surely, yoou’ve heard the news in England about World New Reports
(Reuters) – News Corp Chief Executive Rupert Murdoch will fly to London on Saturday to deal with the escalating phone-hacking crisis engulfing his British newspapers business, according to two people familiar with the plans.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/08/us-newscorp-murdoch-idUSTRE76774020110708?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
July 8th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Why Rupert Murdoch’s reign may be over:
On Friday, the day after James Murdoch, Mr. Murdoch’s son, closed the News of the World, the tabloid behind the bombshell phone-hacking scandal, British Prime Minister David Cameron acknowledged that courting the media had gone way too far.
The result was an immoral alliance between politicians, the press and the police that has now triggered criminal investigations into the hacking scandal, a probe into police payoffs for story tips, a public inquiry into media regulation and the execution of the News of the World, the English-language market’s biggest newspaper.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/why-rupert-murdochs-reign-may-be-over/article2092007/
July 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Krappy, King of the Trolls, stop your political trolling!
Just mixed a margarita with a mai tai in my replica Stanley Cup, let’s see what happens.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Raiders for Life
DHB’s higlights were impressive no doubt not only that he tore it up at the combine his proday and the team visits. You don’t draft a player that high unles his talents blow you away. DHB’s stats heretowith belie his draft status but his career isn’t over and that is hard to get people to see. The first 2 years of most WR’s is somewhat underhwhelming. It’s the 3rd and 4th year when they usually establish themselves……just saying!!
July 8th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I’m not sure that Al-this time around-is placing as much value on an established OL as you are Priest although he has in the past.
When it comes to Cable,he was just an average head coach. He was, however, a really good OL coach.
If you read this blog a couple of years ago, you would find the same posters who now condemn Cable saying that he was the best thing we had going and he should be signed to a multi-year contract as an OL coach.
Now they say he was a real bad OL coach. Why? Because Al fired him.
Last year’s OL wasn’t great but it was working and we should have tried to keep it. The second best running team is a good thing and it necessitates a working offensive line.
As to your comments Priest, they’re are always interesting and worth reading.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Why Rupert Murdoch’s reign may be over:
On Friday, the day after James Murdoch, Mr. Murdoch’s son, closed the News of the World, the tabloid behind the bombshell phone-hacking scandal, British Prime Minister David Cameron acknowledged that courting the media had gone way too far.
The result was an immoral alliance between politicians, the press and the police that has now triggered criminal investigations into the hacking scandal, a probe into police payoffs for story tips, a public inquiry into media regulation and the execution of the News of the World, the English-language market’s biggest newspaper.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/why-rupert-murdochs-reign-may-be-over/article2092007/
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Even the Simpsons told you he was corrupt.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
LMAO!
KK:
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t you a real estate agent? A realtor?
And you’re upset about Rupert Murdoch being unscrupulous?!
And you didn’t answer my question: Are you in the VFW or the Legion?
July 8th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I gotcha priesttj, I’m rooting for him and I’m sure all Raider fans are. This will probably be his make or break year. (If there is one, the lockout is breaking my heart)
July 8th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
LMAO!
KK:
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t you a real estate agent? A realtor?
And you’re upset about Rupert Murdoch being unscrupulous?!
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Cheap shot, But I guess that’s all you got. Out
July 8th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
441.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
LMAO!
KK:
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t you a real estate agent? A realtor?
And you’re upset about Rupert Murdoch being unscrupulous?!
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Cheap shot, But I guess that’s all you got. Out
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What cheap shot?!
You’re too effin sensitive.
So are you in either the VFW or the Legion? I’m just asking since you said you were navy.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
KK = wannabe mortgage pimp who can’t even control his husband…
Oh snap. Snatched baldheaded.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Per ESPN’s John Clayton:
With a lower cap all but certain in a 2011 labor deal, some teams already are scrambling to figure out how to make their payrolls work. Some figure the 2011 cap will end up at $120 or $121 million. It could be as low as $117 million, depending on some of the benefits resolutions.
Oakland Raiders — Depending on how much dead money is created by the voiding of Nnamdi Asomugha’s contract, the Raiders are more than $10 million over the cap. They can save $2.1 million by cutting guard Cooper Carlisle, but they have only six players with salaries of more than $1 million that can be used to restructure contracts to free up cap room. Remember they gave extensions to defensive end Richard Seymour and defensive tackle John Henderson and made Kamerion Wimbley a franchise player.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Watching that SD game.
1st pass to DHB was an out pattern that Gardowski bounced to him, lol. Damn noodle armed backup.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
He was wide open, by the way.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Came right back to him on a slant route, but that midget couldn’t get te ball past the Dline without it being tipped.
July 8th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Just watched Satele let a ILB come free on a blitz while he doubled down on the DT.
3 man rush and you let a ILB come free?
Is this what you guys are telling me the rookies are going to do?
Well like I’ve been telling you, it won’t be any worse.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
EnglandRaider
There are certain things that never change with Mr Davis and that’s big lineman and definite concern for both lines and speed everywhere.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Charger DBs are playing 10 yds off the ball yet we keep running our WRs on deep vertical routes.
Don’t understand why we are not just throwing the ball out to them and taking the 6 or 7 guaranteed yds?
Or running some quick slants or drags.
Ridiculous.
Glo hasn’t targeted DHB one time since he came in for Gardowski.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Everyone remembers the Loper roller, lol.
What you don’t remember is Satele getting beat up the middle causing the pocket to completely collapse.
I keep telling you guys that the film shows Satale and Walker in the middle of most Oline phugg ups.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
I keep telling you guys that the film shows Satale and Walker in the middle of most Oline phugg ups.
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Satele’s run blocking wasn’t bad towards the end of the season, especially in space, but his pass blocking was atrocious. I’ve never seen a center so prone to getting bullrushed.
Walker plays like he knows he’s going to f*** up the pass protection, so he might as well not even try.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
After all the film the team watched our first two picks in the draft were C and RT.
That should tell us all we need to know.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
I tought Barksdale was 3b, Van Dyke was our second pick. I really can’t remember.
July 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Damn …
Just saw the Ranger fan thing. Sad it happened in front of his kid.
I don’t see how he fell though.
It was a routine toss that was NOT short. How the eff did he throw all his momentum over the railing?
Strange!
July 8th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Jhill are you sure that was his assignment or they just called a well timed blitz. Either way we all know you don’t care for Satele. Who IMO had a good year.
July 8th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Priest,
I like everyone who suits up in Silver and Black.
Just can’t ignore the film.
When I look for the reasons why our pass protection breaks down, I end up seeing Satele and Walker blowing assignments.
Nothing personal at all.
I actaully wanted us to draft Satele if we couldn’t get Khalil. He has just been pretty disappointing, imo and apparently the coaches.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Even if it was a well timed blitz, I remember Veldheer getting killed for “allowing” Willis to come thru and nail DMac in that 9r preseason game.
May have very well been a well disguised blitz, but the ILB coming up the middle is the ILB coming up the middle. If we roast a rookie for possibly making that error, a vet should not get a pass.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Higher-Education-Stanford-Routt-and-the-touchd;_ylt=As1JaG.OPl2ih1WXo07E0A9DubYF?urn=nfl-wp3180
Great article on Routt! This is the kind of stuff I like to see/read in the wake of the post-Nnamdi era.
“He allowed just 39 completions on 99 targets (39.4%) for 635 yards, five touchdowns, and 13 passes defensed.” That group of stats is second best to only Revis. Routt & the writer both agree that 2 of those meager 5 tds allowed weren’t on him. I’m not saying losing Nnamdi isn’t gonna hurt but Stan da man is on his way to being among the leagues best. You can quote me on that!
July 8th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Jhill
It’s OK to recognize mistakes with anyone, but it seems to me that people want an Oline that doesn’t make mistakes or give up some sacks. If that’s the case everyone will be very frustrated. Satele had a solid year pas blocking and run blocking after the first 3-4 weeks he rarely was called ofr penalties or presnap penalties. He will get physically beat at times like everyone else. But the guy is a very solid C and I have a hard time believing Wiz kid can fare better as a rookie.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I think Veldheer for the most part had a decent rookie year he just had bad games against some dominant DE’s he needs to get stronger and m orw disciplined but if we can keep this line relatively stable we have a chance.
July 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Nice article Jersey I’ve been telling people for the last month that Routt played some damn good cover corner last year and the money was justified. But as would have it. Fans think if someone else says he sucks then I have to say he sucks cuase then I’ll look smart too. The truth is he had games that were right there with the very best corners in the game. You don’t cover Bowe and Mike Floyd like he did and not be one of the best.
He’s thought of the way he was thought of 3 years ago and this guy so far away from 3 years ago it’s not funny. He played the best rec. on the field a lot of times and shut that guy down. I don’t thin k Nnamdi covered Bowe once all year. Bowe may have been one of the top 6-7 rec’s in the game and he blanketed the guy. Bowe is 6′4″ 230 very strong and very fast. Not only did he shut him down he talked smack to the guy as he did it. That’s CONFIDENCE!!!
I never looked at Routt before the way I do now and the rest of you are still sleeping on this guys skills. He is well worth that money………..period
July 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Priest,
If Satele did indeed have a solid year, why do you think the guy was not signed to a new contract?
Why do you think they tried to replace him with Veldheer to start the year?
Im sure you can admit that the coaches simply did not like what they saw on the all important film review.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Jhill There has been a 120 day lockout man. the FA period never took place. There are a lot of things that weren’t done for a variety of reasons we didn’t sign Mike Bush either nor Miller why is Satele viewed differently?
I think people are jumping to a lot of conclusions based on zero info. let’s wiat a few more days and a lot of things will clear up until then we’re just doing guess work.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I think an ignorant line coach who’s head was up his rear for way to long toyed with the Oline way too much. To our detriment moving Veldheer to C was alltime DUMB as his first game as a pro in a position he never played before. That told me a lot about Cable, what coach in his right mind does that opening day?
Veldheer was a fish out water and we paid for it. Maybe in the 4th game after a month of practice I might could see that but “OPENING DAY” what the hell was he thinking?
July 8th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
The Raider FA period certainly took place. We locked up most of the guys we wanted and at least started the negotiations with the guys we wanted to keep.
Satele is viewed differently because we spent our 2nd rd pick on a guy that plays his position. We also had the coach come out in a press conference and tell us Wiz was the starter.
Mike Bush and Zack Miller were tendered the 1st and 3rd rd slot. They were mentioned in press conferences.
Satele? Not a peep about this guy.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Jhill how many C’s did we have last year……..one. Maybe they aren’t as happy with his play as they feel they mighty be with Wiz I hope they’re right but as I look at the film the criticism of Satele goes way too far IMO. If Wiz is better I’m all for it by all means start him but they better make damn sure he is we cannot afford another mistake like last year.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
So you think it was a Cable call to go with Veldheer at C?
Even when the organization started rolling out the Mosebar comparisons?
Nah, I think it was them just trying to get the kid on the field. Mario Henderson was still starting at LT and had a real chance to keep that job.
Satele was identified as a guy who was replaceable.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Veldheer had NOTHING to do with our opening day loss.
And Veldheer was the backup C.
If Satele went down, Veldheer would have been right back at C with Henderson at LT.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Jhill
Mosebar started at LT his rookie year Mosebar didn’t move to C until his 2nd or 3rd season if I remember correctly. Mosebar was a freaking stud at USC and a 1st rnd pick. I don’t think Veldheer fit that bill.
All they had to do ws give the kid a chance to get his feet under him. I didn’t have a problem with him being the C as long as he was ready but that kid wasn’t ready. No Cable made all his lineman learn seevral position which I think hurt some of their progress.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Veldheer, the Raiders’ third round draft choice out of Hillsdale College in Michigan, stands 6-8, which puts him eye-to-eye with Raider Legend, Don Mosebar.
The Raiders selected Mosebar in the first round of the 1983 NFL Draft out of the University of Southern California. He went on to start at center for the Silver and Black, playing 13 seasons and earning three Pro Bowl appearances (1986, 1990, and 1991) and an All-Pro nod in 1991. Mosebar’s career ended prematurely after suffering a career-ending eye injury in 1995.
Similarities between the young Veldheer and Mosebar go beyond their comparative height. Like Veldheer, Mosebar was drafted after playing offensive tackle at the University of Southern California, where he earned All-American honors as a senior.
The Raider shifted Mosebar from tackle to center to contend with a new style of defense, the Buddy Ryan “46”defense that was introduced and implemented in the early 1980s. Mosebar took over the starting center duties from Dave Dalby, who followed Pro Football Hall of Famer Jim Otto at the all-important pivot position.
Now Veldheer gets his opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder and take his place alongside one of the greats in Raiders history.
The Raiders have a rich history of stellar play at the center position. Also, the Raiders blazed the trail when shifting a tall, talented college offensive tackle to productive NFL center.
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raider-Centers-Have-Reached-Higher-Heights-Before/8ac1b0f3-6d35-47bb-8d4a-5871dee52f64
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A simple move by Cable doesn’t get played up like this on THE Raider website. Kinda fits right in with the move to the power scheme the OWNER wanted.
July 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Are you serious the kid gave away cadences when you have an wet eared rookie starting the QB is at a disadvantage. Missed snaps and line calls were missed, JC was doing two jobs and the kid gave up I think 2 sacks but who could blame him.
To be fair I really think Satele was not healthy and they had to try to do something but what they did didn’t work in fact I would’ve tried to go with Satele then if he struggled you go with the backup. I think Satele played hurt the entire preseason which precipitated the entire thing. JMHO
July 8th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Jhill whoever wrote that article is mistaken becaus eMosebar wasn’t 6′8″ he was 6′6″ at best most of our C’s before that were 6′3″ and Mosebar was consider the tallest C in the game at that time because most C’s were under 6′3″.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
The prototype C at that time was the Steelers Mike Webster who was a bowlegged squat power guy. They wanted them shorter for leverage purposes.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Priest,
The article is straight off Raiders.com.
Won’t argue that it might have been propoganda.
Which furthers my point, imo, that this was not just a move by Cable. A move made by a coach who is way out the door doesn’t get played up like that.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Jhill I don’t know what happened man all I know is I saw a kid out there sweating bullets. We could say Mr dvais did it sure but I’ve never seen him take a kid who’s never played C and start him day1 of his career without some sort of time to put it together. Mosebar had proven himself at this level and had an entire offseson to make that switch. This kid had all of 2 weeks to start opening day. I’ve NEVER seen Mr Davis do something quite that illconceaved.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
In short I think cable oversold a lot of crap to Mr Davis that never panned out like the Bruce Gradkowski crap. The Kwame harris fiasco and stuff like that. I wreaks of his mode of operation.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Raids have been looking to replace Satele.
Experimenting with V at center and drafting Wiz are prime evidence of this.
Some factors as to why Raids are looking to move on:
Satele has been overpowered at times.
Satele has been criticized for his line calls.
Satele has had a history of injuries, and although he has managed to stay on the field for the most part, his long term durability is certainly an issue.
Raids have had a history of workhorse, durable centers – from Otto to Dalby to Mosebar to Robbins.
Grove couldn’t stay on the field, which led to Satele.
Hopefully Wisnewski can step in and provide upgraded play and stability at the position.
However, it would be prudent for the Raids to sign another center or retain Satele in case Wiz can not fit the bill.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I haven’t seen Wiz at C so I don’t know what he can do but they are biting off a lot if they send Satele away hoping Wiz is some dominant C before he ever takes a snap in practice. Satele missing line calls is something I’ve never heard. If Wiz can get it done great, but I would prefer to see it first.
July 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Cornfucious say masterbeechum
July 8th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Regardless of whos decision it was to play Veldheer at C, it was bad coaching to NOT adequately prepare him for the position. Cable mororn. That’s the overarching point here.
July 8th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
And I think it is apparent they wanted to replace Satele. Drafting Wiz 1st and proclaiming him the immediate starter pretty much confirmed that thought.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:04 am
I just dont see how some of you were and still are in some cases high on Cable as HC. That guys was an idiot.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Pre-Bush:
“Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”
Post-Bush:
J Hill Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
“A lot of people will say that I owe it to Americans to keep those jobs here, but I would say I owe it to myself to make my company the most money I can.”
July 9th, 2011 at 12:17 am
After reading the comments of some of the pro business Republicans on this blog, I’m thinking that guy at the Rangers game might have leaped on purpose.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:18 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I love Rupert Murdoch. He’s what America used to be all about.
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LOL. We wish.
July 9th, 2011 at 3:21 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I love Rupert Murdoch. He’s what America used to be all about.
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What? Australian??
July 9th, 2011 at 4:14 am
Isn’t this damn thing over with yet?!
I saw online that Roger makes over $11 million a year. How about earning it?
Get on with it Goodell!!!
July 9th, 2011 at 4:16 am
Just saw that Dick Williams died.
One of the greatest managers of the A’s and he definitely managed the greatest team the A’s ever had imo.
July 9th, 2011 at 5:26 am
487.La Milicia Negra Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 3:21 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I love Rupert Murdoch. He’s what America used to be all about.
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What? Australian??
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Lol!
How you doing LMN?
No, I meant a businessman who sees opportunities where others see obstacles.
That guy started with nothing and ends up with a media empire.
The rags to riches story and the anything is possible attitude is what made America.
July 9th, 2011 at 5:29 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 4:14 am
Isn’t this damn thing over with yet?!
I saw online that Roger makes over $11 million a year. How about earning it?
Get on with it Goodell!!!
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Goodell hasnt taken a paycheck since the lockout started. Im not a big fan of his, but he cant make the owners and players agree on terms. The owners started the lockout, not the NFL
July 9th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Time to go to the pub for a pint and a ploughman’s lunch.
July 9th, 2011 at 5:31 am
RAIDER Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 12:17 am
After reading the comments of some of the pro business Republicans on this blog, I’m thinking that guy at the Rangers game might have leaped on purpose.
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Thats a pretty classless thing to say, I hope you have to watch one of your parents die a horrible death too you rotten piece of trash
July 9th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Bcz24:
Missed that post.
Yeah, I know that, however, he does make over $11million a year if you prorate it and I do want him to get on with it.
During the season he was active enough.
Every time someone got hit he wanted to bring in a rule to change the game.
There are so many rules now that officials are having a hard time getting them all straight.
Out to the pub!
July 9th, 2011 at 6:05 am
The supp draft isn’t free. If we spend a 1st round supp pick, it means we forfeit our 2nd round pick in the 2012 NFL draft.
We only have a 2nd and a 4th round pick in the supp draft. So spending our 2nd on Pryor would mean giving up our 3rd round 2012 draft pick.
I would say, that’s ok.
July 9th, 2011 at 7:04 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 5:26 am
487.La Milicia Negra Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 3:21 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
I love Rupert Murdoch. He’s what America used to be all about.
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What? Australian??
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Lol!
How you doing LMN?
No, I meant a businessman who sees opportunities where others see obstacles.
That guy started with nothing and ends up with a media empire.
The rags to riches story and the anything is possible attitude is what made America.
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EnglandRAIDER…
LOL, yeah, I remember NY had some rubbish in the 70’s that they didnt know what to do with… Maersk said; “we’ll take it, but lets make a 100year contract then”…
so NY pays Maersk to remove it.. and Maersk makes dashboards and other plastic stuff from it..
and after the 90’s when we had more containers going TO USA, than away, and ships need to be full-loaded all the time… so this is a triple win for Maersk =)
July 9th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Interesting tidbit from the lockout is the owners trying to get right of first refusal on a certain number of their FAs. I think they are trying to get that number to 3. If they are able to pull that off and we are able to match the offer to 3 FAs of our choice I wonder who we would choose to match?
I think Nnamdi, Gallery, and Huff come back and at huge discounts.
I think Miller and Bush are already coming back so we wouldn’t need to use the exceptions on them.
July 9th, 2011 at 7:38 am
GG – I don’t think that’s correct. If we use a 1st round pick in the supplemental draft that = a 1st in the 2012 draft.
July 9th, 2011 at 7:51 am
jhill the players arent going for that. drew rosenhaus said it could be a deal breaker. the owners are definitely full of themselves. it would stop guys from being unrestricted free agents even longer.
July 9th, 2011 at 7:53 am
J Hill – that is quite interesting. I was watching NFL live and they were talking about that this am. If that is in fact the case it’s gonna make the 1st few days of FA even more exciting for Raider fans.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:01 am
The only thing it would stop is SOME player movement. I can’t see it being a deal breaker because the $ shouldn’t be impacted.
Using Gallery as an example, he wanted 8 million a year to stay here. We countered with 3 and he said he needed to move on. He’s free to go out to any team out there and negotiate for as much money as he can get. If he can find a team that will pay him more than the 3 million, then he still wins.
I believe that the team that drafted and invested in a players development should have the right to match.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:06 am
What I have a hard time seeing is the owners going for the players being able to walk after 4 years with no chance of resigning them.
There has to be some sort of restricted FA.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:07 am
I agree 100% J Hill. If they’re going to shorten length of the rookie contract as a part of the wage scale they should be able to match an offer sheet. Lets just take DHB for example. If he signed a 3 yr deal and he blows up this year we could lose him after “developing” him and paying for no production for 2 years.
Seeing what others initial thoughts are on this issue. If rookie contracts get shortened to 3-4yrs, will that change the way teams draft? Will that change the way the Raiders draft?
July 9th, 2011 at 8:19 am
It just doesn’t make any sense Midwest.
Why would owners go for losing a player after 3 or 4 years with zero compensation?
July 9th, 2011 at 8:34 am
jhill u would have to listen to drew rosenhaus break it down. he was on espn radio talkin about it. he talks about how guys could get lowballed by offers cuz the team could match it. not to mention that guys wouldnt have to be paid the average of the top 5% at their position. like i said u would have to hear him talk about it to understand his point. dont know where a link is so i guess u could just go to espn to find it.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:35 am
I guess from a players perspective that’s the trade off with the owners paying less based on the wage scale. Either way, the players are going to be paid. I’m kinda curious the more I think about it, how are they going to work out the guaranteed money for these 1st and 2nd rounders.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Armond,
The best thing about this lockout is guys like Rosenhaus being on the sideline.
It’s a simple as this to me …..
If Seattle wants Gallery, they will give him an offer close to the 8 million he thinks he worth, or certainly more than the 3 million the Raiders are offering. Seattle could front load the contract, mess with the guarantees, or something of that nature.
The Raiders could simply match the offer, or maybe receive a draft pick. And we are not talking all FAs, just a couple.
Just can’t see the owners giving up the 6 year FA bar, the tender system, AND restricted FA. Not going to happen.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Just can’t see the owners giving up the 6 year FA bar, the tender system, AND restricted FA. Not going to happen.
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I agree with this. A team invest lots of time an money in there 1-2 round picks to give up there rights to said player any sooner.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:25 am
jhill u trippin if y dont think the players feel the same way. i know teddy bruschi and the other guy on nfl live agreed with him. the players dont mind the current system as it is now.they already feel that the transition tag and the franchise tag to go along with the tenders is enuff. u now want to add 3 players to match on top of that?u would create a system in which certain players wouldnt get unrestricted free agency for 7-8 years. they want the right to be unrestricted no matter what after a certain amount of time. if a guy has a 5yr deal to start he could get matched for another 4 years. thats 9 years of being obligated to 1 team without him CHOOSING to stay. thats 3 players the team can do that 2. thats not real free agency.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:34 am
jhill it used to be 4 years and not 6. i say meet in the middle and make it 5. both sides will have to sacrifice something. u keep using gallery but thats a bad example. we know the raiders dont want him. what about the guys that the team wants to keep. thats where the issue is. guys like bush and miller. if bush wants to leave and the raiders matchthe offer that could be a problem. especially if the new team would make him the starter unlike here. then imagine miller and another guy being matched. if they have enuff years accrued for URFA then they should be allowed to leave if they choose.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Not at all Armond.
Not adding 3 players to match.
I thought they were talking about the 3 players taking the place of all the other stuff.
If they are going to keep the franchise tag and the tender system, then they won’t get the 3 player match thing.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Apples and Oranges
I’, talking about a NEW system of FA where all players with 4 years service are FAs. No restricted business, or tender this and thats. If you are 4 year player with no contract, ur a FA.
Now …
On top of that, the owners would need to either have some type of RFA at year 3, or the right to match 3 players that are FAs if there is no RFA.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:52 am
511.J Hill Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Apples and Oranges
I’, talking about a NEW system of FA where all players with 4 years service are FAs. No restricted business, or tender this and thats. If you are 4 year player with no contract, ur a FA.
Now …
On top of that, the owners would need to either have some type of RFA at year 3, or the right to match 3 players that are FAs if there is no RFA.
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even tho i understand what they are saying its still confusing. im tryin to see if the franchise tag and all that is being tossed out like u are saying. from what i heard it sounded like the right of 1rst refusal would be added on top of what they have now. thats why im against this latest move by the owners. i dont believe in that anyway and i agree with u that it cant go both ways for either side. dont understand why they cant trade off 1 piece for another.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Per ESPN’s John Clayton:
With a lower cap all but certain in a 2011 labor deal, some teams already are scrambling to figure out how to make their payrolls work. Some figure the 2011 cap will end up at $120 or $121 million. It could be as low as $117 million, depending on some of the benefits resolutions.
Oakland Raiders — Depending on how much dead money is created by the voiding of Nnamdi Asomugha’s contract, the Raiders are more than $10 million over the cap. They can save $2.1 million by cutting guard Cooper Carlisle, but they have only six players with salaries of more than $1 million that can be used to restructure contracts to free up cap room. Remember they gave extensions to defensive end Richard Seymour and defensive tackle John Henderson and made Kamerion Wimbley a franchise player.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:55 am
391.KoolKell Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
EnglandRaider
What do you think of Rupert & James Murdock going down in flames in Britan?
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Love it!
July 9th, 2011 at 9:57 am
we should be talkin about how the team looks and training camp battles in a few weeks instead of this bullsh!t. btw brien never blames the poor run defense on the mediocre LB play. most good-great run defenses have mean physical LB’s that attack ballcarriers. when was the last time we had a probowl LB? we havent even had a solid LB unit in who knows how long. i bet the run defense gets better when our LB’s actuallY play like some.
July 9th, 2011 at 9:58 am
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July 9th, 2011 at 9:58 am
502.Midwest Fan Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 8:07 am
I agree 100% J Hill. If they’re going to shorten length of the rookie contract as a part of the wage scale they should be able to match an offer sheet. Lets just take DHB for example. If he signed a 3 yr deal and he blows up this year we could lose him after “developing” him and paying for no production for 2 years.
Seeing what others initial thoughts are on this issue. If rookie contracts get shortened to 3-4yrs, will that change the way teams draft? Will that change the way the Raiders draft?
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I think rookie contracts should be at 4 years. After year 3, most teams should know what they have and what they don’t have and who they want to keep out of those players.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:02 am
515.armond Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 9:57 am
we should be talkin about how the team looks and training camp battles in a few weeks instead of this bullsh!t. btw brien never blames the poor run defense on the mediocre LB play. most good-great run defenses have mean physical LB’s that attack ballcarriers. when was the last time we had a probowl LB? we havent even had a solid LB unit in who knows how long. i bet the run defense gets better when our LB’s actuallY play like some.
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Agreed. If the Raiders prioritized and drafted BEAST LB’s like the Steelers do, instead of CB’s….the Raiders would be in great shape defensively when it comes to stuffing the run!
July 9th, 2011 at 10:10 am
478.priesttj Says:
July 8th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I haven’t seen Wiz at C so I don’t know what he can do but they are biting off a lot if they send Satele away hoping Wiz is some dominant C before he ever takes a snap in practice. Satele missing line calls is something I’ve never heard. If Wiz can get it done great, but I would prefer to see it first.
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Starting all over on the O-Line with a bunch of rookie and 2nd year players will be a mistake and the O-Line will regress this year because of it.
They need to keep Satele and Carlisle at least one more year and keeping Barnes around would be smart also for depth purposes.
Bye Bye Mario Henderson and Johnny Lee Higgins also on the WR corp!
July 9th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I think our LBs will be fine.
Groves and Goethel will battle it out for the last OLB spot. Groves got better as the year went on. It was his first time playing 4-3 OLB so we should have expected some growing pains.
Same with the rookie MLB. I think he will be better year 2 and he certainly improved as the year went on.
Look, the bottom line is we need to stary healthy on defense. Nnamdi, Henderson, Bryant, and McClain were all hurt and missed time. Same with Trevor Scott.
Not to mention how converting a few more 3rd downs will keep our defense off the field.
The lockout will be over in the next 7 days.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:31 am
groves wasnt that good at all. goethel had him beat if he wasnt hurt. we need to add depth to that unit but i need to see more out of that group before i say we will be fine. i like goethel tho and mcclain should be better. id like to add herzlich off the udfa list. we need some playmakers out there on defense. gotta force more to’s.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Starting all over on the O-Line with a bunch of rookie and 2nd year players will be a mistake and the O-Line will regress this year because of it.
They need to keep Satele and Carlisle at least one more year and keeping Barnes around would be smart also for depth purposes.
Bye Bye Mario Henderson and Johnny Lee Higgins also on the WR corp!
The most effective offensive formation last year for the Raiders last year on the O-Line was the elephant jumbo O-Line package that was used when we wanted to pound the rock and in short yardage and goal line situations. It was also used as a decoy on certain passing plays.
To run the O-Line elephant jumbo package, DEPTH is needed on the O-Line!
July 9th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Just watched c woodson #17 top player. Dom capers said he uses him the same way he used rod Woodson in Pitt. Made me realize how much the lockout is hurting us. Woodson won’t have time to install any of his capers style coverage schemes that he promised. Defense will be vanilla across the league.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:37 am
521.armond Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 10:31 am
groves wasnt that good at all. goethel had him beat if he wasnt hurt. we need to add depth to that unit but i need to see more out of that group before i say we will be fine. i like goethel tho and mcclain should be better. id like to add herzlich off the udfa list. we need some playmakers out there on defense. gotta force more to’s.
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Groves was average at best last year and Goethel is still an unknown. He seems like an instinctive type of LB and certainly not a physical beast type that the Raiders need like McClain.
Casey Matthews would have been a solid addition, because he is physical and instinctive even though he is about the same size as Goethel.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Starting all over on the O-Line with a bunch of rookie and 2nd year players will be a mistake and the O-Line will regress this year because of it.
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I’m one of the few who actually believe our Oline is already better. Power blocking scheme is not that hard. There are no complicated reads for these guys to pick up.
Veldheer will be better in year 2 than he was as a rookie. Pretty sure he’s been hitting the weights and working on his skills.
Carlisle is going to be steady.
Langston Walker and Satele were 2 guys that just had to be replaced. Wiz is 15 lbs heavier than Satele and appears to be stronger than Satele with his 30 reps on the bench. Barksdale and Marion Henderson competing for the RT spot is going to be an interesting battle. Either way, we get an upgrade from Walker who was TERRIBLE in pass protection.
Bruce Campbell is the wild card to our Oline. Just hoping his physical beastness translates on the field. I really don’t get why people are so skeptical of this guy.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Lbs need to improve but dline is the front guys on battle lines…….Ive been on record saying we need a WLB….but Im happy with McClain and Wimbley
July 9th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Jhill…..reason why people are skeptical is because he seems like an athletic specimen not a football player
July 9th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I dont care about personnel……just get a deal done dammit. We need football
July 9th, 2011 at 10:49 am
525.J Hill Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Starting all over on the O-Line with a bunch of rookie and 2nd year players will be a mistake and the O-Line will regress this year because of it.
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I’m one of the few who actually believe our Oline is already better. Power blocking scheme is not that hard. There are no complicated reads for these guys to pick up.
Veldheer will be better in year 2 than he was as a rookie. Pretty sure he’s been hitting the weights and working on his skills.
Carlisle is going to be steady.
Langston Walker and Satele were 2 guys that just had to be replaced. Wiz is 15 lbs heavier than Satele and appears to be stronger than Satele with his 30 reps on the bench. Barksdale and Marion Henderson competing for the RT spot is going to be an interesting battle. Either way, we get an upgrade from Walker who was TERRIBLE in pass protection.
Bruce Campbell is the wild card to our Oline. Just hoping his physical beastness translates on the field. I really don’t get why people are so skeptical of this guy.
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I would rather keep Barnes around ahead of Mario. Carlise needs to be kept and so does Satele. If anything maybe they can trade Satele for a 3rd round pick or something to a team who needs a Center.
I agree that Wiz is stronger and more powerful than Satele already and will keep getting stronger. Wiz just needs to start working on learning the line calls and audibles with JC.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:50 am
The guy was a top 5 OT prospect.
Guys who don’t have football talent end up on the line blocking. If the guy had football skills, he’d be playing LT, DE, or DT.
And we are simply talking about playing OG, not LT or C
July 9th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Barnes and Satele are UFAs.
I have no problem with those guys being brought back for depth. I just have a hard time believing that they won’t go somewhere for a CHANCE to start.
Those guys are NOT starting here.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I think Satele did fine last year as the year went on. He was hurt earlier in the season, hence why desperation kicked in when they started Veldheer at Center.
The ones that I have issues with are Mario and Walker. Keeping Barnes would keep that needed depth at the RT spot if Barksdale or Campbell do not step up.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:55 am
We really don’t know if goethel can play olb. I’m still concerned with the olb spot
July 9th, 2011 at 10:59 am
J Hill Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Barnes and Satele are UFAs.
I have no problem with those guys being brought back for depth. I just have a hard time believing that they won’t go somewhere for a CHANCE to start.
Those guys are NOT starting here
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If Barnes, Hendu, Satele AND Walker are not brought back, then all of a sudden the Raiders have some SERIOUS depth issues on the O-Line and they have a lack of veteran experience and leadership.
Not a good combination to have on the O-Line in the NFL!
Ugh..
July 9th, 2011 at 11:14 am
526.Bauce Rules Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Lbs need to improve but dline is the front guys on battle lines…….Ive been on record saying we need a WLB….but Im happy with McClain and Wimbley
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i knew your azz would show up when i said that haha. i agree we could use another dt and de. the lb’s however have to get much better tho. that cant be disputed. anyway bout to take off to see some car show down here in san ho. never been to a car show b4 and was told this 1 will be weak. oh well i bet the bz’s wont be which is all i care about. later
July 9th, 2011 at 11:15 am
oh and jhill i did go to golden corral again last sunday mayne.
July 9th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Bros I busted a sweet dinner last night at Olive Garden, my ladies wanted the new pastachettis. You can’t lose with soup, salad, breadsticks and a slightly chilled box of Merlot, right?
I’m going to do some sweet freestyles raps with the pool DJ today, should send the cabana party into overdrive. I expect my swim trunks to be ripped off by hot babes by the 2nd jam at the latest.
You know what they say, you gotta free willy.
Figured I’ll warm up with my usual smack downs of Brian the Genital and his grandpa Krappy. For some reason watching Kelly family members melt down gets my creative rap juices flowing.
GET WILD BUT THEY DON’T FIGHT THEY KILL
July 9th, 2011 at 11:41 am
If Barnes, Hendu, Satele AND Walker are not brought back, then all of a sudden the Raiders have some SERIOUS depth issues on the O-Line and they have a lack of veteran experience and leadership.
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Henderson will be back. He’ll compete and have a real shot at the RT spot.
Walker is gone. Will most likely retire. Dude had to be pushing 375 last year.
Who knows what Barnes is going to do. He’s not starting, so whether it’s him or someother backup OT/OG then it is what it is.
We will have 9 or 10 OL on the roster when the season starts.
July 9th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Barksdale/Henderson and Loper/Carlisle will be the 6th and 7th OL guys.
We will sign a vet FA bcakup C = 8th man.
Finding the 9th and 10th guy to fill out the Oline is not going to be a problem.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
539.J Hill Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Barksdale/Henderson and Loper/Carlisle will be the 6th and 7th OL guys.
We will sign a vet FA bcakup C = 8th man.
Finding the 9th and 10th guy to fill out the Oline is not going to be a problem.
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It better not be a problem or else the O-Line will regress from last year and that is something this Raider team does NOT need in 2011.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I have to say I am as excited about the team addressing the pass protection problem as I was last year when we finally addressed the DE and LB issues.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Why do you think the 9th and 10th guys on the Oline are so vital?
We’re talking about guys that will be inactive for 16 weeks. Practice dummies, if you will.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Nnamdi Asomugha arguably is the best cornerback in the game, but most teams would be wise not to break the bank for his services when he hits the open market.
Not that Asomugha isn’t worthy of commanding top dollar as a shutdown corner, but there are several factors that should create pause before someone snatches up the perceived crown jewel of the free-agent class.
Recent history has proven that championship teams don’t need the presence of a Pro Bowl corner. While the Green Bay Packers were the exception in their journey to the Lombardi Trophy last season, recent Super Bowl winners haven’t relied on the play of a star cornerback.
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Part of that can be attributed to the increase in zone-based coverage like the Tampa 2 and various zone-blitz schemes. Asomugha would help teams wanting to get after the quarterback with pressure and leaving their cornerbacks in isolated matchups, but it isn’t a requirement to have great one-on-one corners to thrive within the increasingly popular zone systems in the league.
There’s also the question about Asomugha’s impact on a defense. No one denies his skills or ability to blanket one half of the field, yet one wonders if he truly makes his unit better. Even with Asomugha’s three consecutive Pro Bowl nods from 2008 to 2010 and heading a pass defense that ranked in the top 10 each of those seasons, the Oakland Raiders didn’t finish in the top 10 in total defense during that span.
Asomugha has 11 career picks, with just two coming during the past three seasons, to go with two forced fumbles. Considering he has faced just 98 pass attempts since 2008, respect for his game limits the number of chances to create turnovers.
Still, the lack of turnovers goes beyond Asomugha’s fear factor. The fact that he has primarily played right corner also has limited the amount of pass attempts he has faced. The right side is considered the weaker of the two cornerback spots because most quarterbacks are right-handed and the majority of throws head in that direction — and challenging the left corner.
Unlike some elite cornerbacks who shadow the opponent’s top receiver, Asomugha has typically stayed on his assigned side. While he had success moving around more in 2010, teams have been able to find their No. 1 receiver by moving him away from Asomugha when they face the Raiders.
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In comparing his output to other elite corners, Asomugha falls well short in the turnover category. Champ Bailey (48 interceptions and six forced fumbles), Charles Woodson (47 interceptions and 22 forced fumbles) and Asante Samuel (42 interceptions and five forced fumbles) are not only excellent cover guys, but they have shown a consistent ability to get their hands on the ball.
Darrelle Revis, the cornerback often touted as the game’s best, has created more total turnovers (14 interceptions and two forced fumbles) in four fewer seasons than Asomugha’s 13.
Given the impact of turnovers, teams should seriously investigate if Asomugha can do enough to justify the hefty commitment an interested team like the Houston Texans would have to make. The same goes for potential suitors in the Detriot Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys.
Teams are reluctant to commit big money to aging players, and Asomugha is 30, so that’s a concern. He could be nearing the end of his athletic prime, and his skills will start to diminish during the middle of his contract. That’s an even greater possibility when you consider how he uses his 6-foot-2, 210-pound frame to maul receivers in bump-and-run coverage. That physical style of play could takes a toll over an extended career and diminish his skills quicker.
Asomugha is believed to be the final piece to a championship puzzle, but one wonders if his age and lack of production will produce a case of buyer’s remorse in a few years for the team that gives him a monster contract.
July 9th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Nnamdi Asomugha arguably is the best cornerback in the game, but most teams would be wise not to break the bank for his services when he hits the open market.
Not that Asomugha isn’t worthy of commanding top dollar as a shutdown corner, but there are several factors that should create pause before someone snatches up the perceived crown jewel of the free-agent class.
Recent history has proven that championship teams don’t need the presence of a Pro Bowl corner. While the Green Bay Packers were the exception in their journey to the Lombardi Trophy last season, recent Super Bowl winners haven’t relied on the play of a star cornerback.
Part of that can be attributed to the increase in zone-based coverage like the Tampa 2 and various zone-blitz schemes. Asomugha would help teams wanting to get after the quarterback with pressure and leaving their cornerbacks in isolated matchups, but it isn’t a requirement to have great one-on-one corners to thrive within the increasingly popular zone systems in the league.
There’s also the question about Asomugha’s impact on a defense. No one denies his skills or ability to blanket one half of the field, yet one wonders if he truly makes his unit better. Even with Asomugha’s three consecutive Pro Bowl nods from 2008 to 2010 and heading a pass defense that ranked in the top 10 each of those seasons, the Oakland Raiders didn’t finish in the top 10 in total defense during that span.
Asomugha has 11 career picks, with just two coming during the past three seasons, to go with two forced fumbles. Considering he has faced just 98 pass attempts since 2008, respect for his game limits the number of chances to create turnovers.
Still, the lack of turnovers goes beyond Asomugha’s fear factor. The fact that he has primarily played right corner also has limited the amount of pass attempts he has faced. The right side is considered the weaker of the two cornerback spots because most quarterbacks are right-handed and the majority of throws head in that direction — and challenging the left corner.
Unlike some elite cornerbacks who shadow the opponent’s top receiver, Asomugha has typically stayed on his assigned side. While he had success moving around more in 2010, teams have been able to find their No. 1 receiver by moving him away from Asomugha when they face the Raiders.
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In comparing his output to other elite corners, Asomugha falls well short in the turnover category. Champ Bailey (48 interceptions and six forced fumbles), Charles Woodson (47 interceptions and 22 forced fumbles) and Asante Samuel (42 interceptions and five forced fumbles) are not only excellent cover guys, but they have shown a consistent ability to get their hands on the ball.
Darrelle Revis, the cornerback often touted as the game’s best, has created more total turnovers (14 interceptions and two forced fumbles) in four fewer seasons than Asomugha’s 13.
Given the impact of turnovers, teams should seriously investigate if Asomugha can do enough to justify the hefty commitment an interested team like the Houston Texans would have to make. The same goes for potential suitors in the Detriot Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys.
Teams are reluctant to commit big money to aging players, and Asomugha is 30, so that’s a concern. He could be nearing the end of his athletic prime, and his skills will start to diminish during the middle of his contract. That’s an even greater possibility when you consider how he uses his 6-foot-2, 210-pound frame to maul receivers in bump-and-run coverage. That physical style of play could takes a toll over an extended career and diminish his skills quicker.
Asomugha is believed to be the final piece to a championship puzzle, but one wonders if his age and lack of production will produce a case of buyer’s remorse in a few years for the team that gives him a monster contract.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820a2895/article/asomugha-is-a-star-but-suitors-have-reason-to-be-worried
July 9th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Part of that can be attributed to the increase in zone-based coverage like the Tampa 2 and various zone-blitz schemes. Asomugha would help teams wanting to get after the quarterback with pressure and leaving their cornerbacks in isolated matchups, but it isn’t a requirement to have great one-on-one corners to thrive within the increasingly popular zone systems in the league.
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Jhill,
The issue most Raider fans have is that Asomugha’s relatively 1-dimensional style is a direct result of the Raiders 1-dimensioal style of defense.
Raiders ask their corners to do exactly what the article above describes of Asomugha. Man2Man defense with very few wrinkles or looks. A very straight up defense.
Aso has done his job so well that opponents don’t even bother throwing in his direction. What in the hell is he supposed to do? give up some big plays so defenses pick on him?
The Raiders better change the scheme up next year. Otherwise it will be another 3 or 4 cornerbacks drafted in the top 2 rounds for the next 3 years
July 9th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Guys I’m watching Lil Wiz play now and I do see he has great potential as a OG in this league. He is just really smart and athletic enough to get out on sweeps. But I’m also watching a C for OSU Mike Brewster who is a beast at C now this is the kind of C I want for the Raiders. He’s a little taller but he has what I look for in a dominant C.
BTW T Pryor is playing his butt off again, I wish the kid could’ve had another year in school to establish himself. He is Big Ben and Mike Vick rolled into one.
OSU also has this kid Browning who I think has already been drafted who looks good too.
But my point is Brewster is hands down one of top C’s in college based on what I see now. If Pryor had stayed in school OSU could’ve won a title. Although Bama’s defense looks like an NFL defense…..LOL
July 9th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
It boggles my mind why coaches play these zone schemes where the DB plays 10 yards off the ball giving the rec. an easy slant and making it next to impossible for the DB yto stop it. OSU just handed a TD to PSU doing that when they had a top cover guy who should’ve played press making it harder for the QB to fit it in. Doesn’t make sense, make the QB make a stick throw instead a lob for a TD.
July 9th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
542.J Hill Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Why do you think the 9th and 10th guys on the Oline are so vital?
We’re talking about guys that will be inactive for 16 weeks. Practice dummies, if you will.
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I explained this earlier. For depth and experience purposes. The chances of our five starting O-Linemen staying healthy for all 16 games is slim to none.
Lets look at the projected starters left to right:
Veldheer: strong rookie season, but benefited by having Gallery next to him last year to develop, won’t have that benefit this year
Loper: journeyman OLinemen,6th year in the league. Showed signs he can play physically last year when filling for Gallery at LG. Can he be as consistent as Gallery as the full time starter now at LG? He got paid like it. A question mark still.
Wiz or Satele: good technician and is big and strong for Center coming in at 6′3 and 313 pounds. Will get stronger and has the bloodlines and football IQ to be a good one. Still a rookie though. Has to learn the line signals and audibles and be able to work well with JC at QB. Satele played well as the season went on and is always hustling to block in the 2nd and at times 3rd levels. Knows the line calls and audibles. No learning curve with him, while Wiz can also play Guard before eventually moving to Center if they keep Satele around for another year or as trade bait.
Carlisle or B Campbell: Carlisle is the mainstay of the line when it is all said and done. Has the least penalties called on him and that is a good thing. He can provide that much needed leadership on that line unless of course they go with the 2nd year unproven redshirt player like Campbell, who has the physical tools, but does he have the mental makeup to start full time and not make penalties like Carlisle? I doubt it and that is bad for the O-Line. I say keep Carlisle one more year and use Campbell in the jumbo elephant packages and maybe as a backup blocking FB and and backup RG and bring him on slowly, but he needs of course to get his feet wet this year.
Barksdale, Hendu or Barnes: Well Barksdale is going to get his shot at winning the starting RT job without a doubt. He started for 3 years at LT for LSU and he can most certainly play RT. Has the tools, and seems like he has the mental makeup, but we’ll see. As long as he is better than Hendu, than all should be good. Barnes has the experience and used well last year and had a role, but he may want to start elsewhere. I would rather see team keep Barnes ahead of Hendu to compete with Barksdale to start at RT. Barnes offers better value and experience.
July 9th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Plus who is going to backup Veldheer if he gets hurt? Barksdale, another rookie? I would rather have Barnes take over at LT is Veldheer goes down than Mario or Barksdale.
July 9th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I just don’t see how coach Woodson can install any of the schemes or looks that he said he would. No ota, means there won’t be enough classroom time. Another take on nam is if he leaves will we be forced to play less man press? I like routts play last year mostly, but he is no area 21.
July 9th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
B Campbell will get a shot. He should have seen the field last year but cable was interferingcwith hu jacks plan. Old man Al fired his a$$ becuase of it. Hu jack knows Campbell is a fit for what he wants to do, Davis wants him on the field, it’s a forgone conclusion. The question is where will he play not if he will play
July 9th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Big Ben and Michael Vick rolled into one? TJ, you are not just the biggest idiot on the blog but the biggest idiot in the history of the internet.
In other words, a college athlete with great measurables, questionable mechanics and limited high level coaching is basically the greatest quarterback ever?
Stop watching highlights you moron and take up bird watching, you have a better chance of not getting hurt.
July 9th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
The wnba is on today?!?!? How many seasons do they have in a calendar year? Why do they show this crap on tv? Watching the wnba is only slightly better than watching grads play qb
July 9th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Mistic,
A lot of young female athletes look up to WNBA players….
July 9th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Its a waste of air time
July 9th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Mistic that’s unfair to to females, after all they’re people too.
I will admit it’s hard to watch an entire game unless they’re really going at it.
July 9th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Beechman you got all that from an innocuous statement like Pryor is like Vick and Ben rolled into one. That he is the “greatest QB ever” then me thinks you are the idiot. I was just talking about his athletic ability. I think everyone else got that except you………thanks for listening!
July 9th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
I guess that was a bit harsh. If I offended any women on this blog I humbly submit my deepest apologies. But THANK GOD FOR THE CFL!!!!!
July 9th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
My opinion of Pryor is he should have stayed in school because he is so unpolished and I stated that many many times. I also said he isn’t worth a 1st rnd pick I would prefer a 3rd and have stated so many times.
How beechman could conclude otherwise is beyond me…
July 9th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Mistic1 I have all girls (3 daughters) if they heard that they would go bullistic……..LOL
Women know they can’t play like men but they hate being disrespected just the same. Trust me I know all tooo well.
But No worries!!
July 9th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
I love the youth in our infield Sizemore, Carter , & Weeks!
July 9th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Cornfucious say he really want to meet misterbeechum
July 9th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Cornfucious
very very very very very excited about no more locksown. When locksown over Cornfucious go away and not worry about no football. Locksown make me mad 
but no more lpocksown make me very very very very very happy 
.
July 9th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Cornfucious
really want Mr Davis 
to keep Namndi because no Namndi mean leaky hole on side where he use to be. Locksown need to get over so Mr Davis 
can get in business and go to work. Locksown over will make me very very happy 
.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I know what you mean Cornfucious. Mr. Davis needs to need Namndi Asomugha because he is a extremely gifted cornerback and a cornerback who know the so called man to man coverage as well as he does should not be let go. That is not a defense that is readily learned by rookies and is difficult to master. How may colleges use a man to man package virtually all the time. You cannot lose him.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
**keep** Namndi.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
I hear all ya’ll. Keep Namndi Mr Davis. Do I need to start a collection so I can buy some billboard? It would say: Dear Mr. Davis, We need for you to KEEP NAMNDI ASOMUGHA. P.S. Hire a GM while your at it.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
I am hearin ya 00raider00. I’ll pass the hat. Lets go. Mr Davis, just to let you know I would like for you to re hire the great Namndi Asomugha because without him, I’m afraid the word ‘toast’ may begin to be heard around some of the water coolers in offices, and it won’t be the kind that has to do with bread, but you defensive corners.
July 9th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
I would like to see the billboard say: Dear Mr Davis, as a fan I greatly appreciate all your effort to make the Raiders great again, but seeing Mr Asomugha depart will be unbearable to me. It will cause great suffering. Thank You.
July 9th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
bcz24 Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 5:31 am
Thats a pretty classless thing to say, I hope you have to watch one of your parents die a horrible death too you rotten piece of trash
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Don’t have to worry about my parents dying that way. Neither of them are dumb enough to extend over a ledge like that just for a stupid baseball.
July 9th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
There are only two reasons the Raiders aren’t going to re-sign Nnamdi:
1) Al Davis is cheap, he doesn’t not pay his players. Gives them back loaded contracts that never pay out.
2) Nnamdi is not dumb enough to sign one of those contracts. He’s not Tommy Kelly.
So there you have it. Nnamdi will get paid what he’s worth to play somewhere, and we’d better pray it’s not in the AFC West.
July 9th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Here’s the thing, guys. It doesn’t matter. We’ll suck if Nnamdi stays. So Al might as well free up some payroll. We’re not going to have another winning season as long as Al’s involved. Nnamdi or no Nnamdi. So there’s your argument for “let Nnamdi go” crowd. They have a point. Where they’re wrong is that they think the money will be spent on players that will get us back to the playoffs. Not a snowball’s chance in hell.
July 10th, 2011 at 6:11 am
I think Bruce Campbell will be just fine. After watching his interviews last season how could you not love this guy? His only knock is that he is to dam nice. All he needs is for the other guys in the huddle to tell him what the other team said about his momma. Then watch him steam role the guy in front of him. How would you like to be the olb who sees this guy turning the corner on a pull pissed off? James Harrison wouldn’t stand a chance.
July 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Do I love Nnamdi? Yes — always have … going back to his days roving the sidelines at Cal. Do I think the Raiders are better of without him? Well, consider this — he was injured for part of the season last year and other guys stepped it up. Routt hopefully won’t get picked on as much with Nnamdi gone, but it’s time for other guys to step up, as well. Freeing up $18-20 million of salary room will definitely help the Raiders get some quality talent/depth. Though I wish we could still keep him, it’s time to move on.
July 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
By the way, where the hell did Confucious go?
July 10th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Freeing up $18-20 million of salary room will definitely help the Raiders get some quality talent/depth.
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This could be a problem, though:
Per ESPN’s John Clayton -
With a lower cap all but certain in a 2011 labor deal, some teams already are scrambling to figure out how to make their payrolls work. Some figure the 2011 cap will end up at $120 or $121 million. It could be as low as $117 million, depending on some of the benefits resolutions.
Oakland Raiders — Depending on how much dead money is created by the voiding of Nnamdi Asomugha’s contract, the Raiders are more than $10 million over the cap. They can save $2.1 million by cutting guard Cooper Carlisle, but they have only six players with salaries of more than $1 million that can be used to restructure contracts to free up cap room. Remember they gave extensions to defensive end Richard Seymour and defensive tackle John Henderson and made Kamerion Wimbley a franchise player.
July 10th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Raiders with Nnamdi:
5-11
Raiders without Nnamdi:
5-11
So, get rid of him. It doesn’t matter. If anything, to save money, give Al the operating cash that he’s begging other rich people around the bay area for.
But don’t tell me Nnamdi isn’t worth every penny of what he’s asking for. He is. And the team that signs him is going to have a lock down defense.
July 10th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Raiders with Nnamdi:
13-3
Raiders without Nnamdi:
2-14
You know the run D will be similar the he steel lored steel curtain curtain of years ago, but our passing D will suffer.
I would like to think to keep or not to keep Nnamdi would or wouldn’t matter, but lest I beg to differ, I beg to differ.
No Nnamdi = Bring on the Pain
July 10th, 2011 at 10:56 am
If franchise tag is removed Wimbley will get original contract money. Not sure what dhb’s contract is for. He will be asked to restructure and cap problem solved.
July 10th, 2011 at 11:02 am
The Raiders have played well against the run some years, but have never had a “good run D”, so to speak. The Raiders are a poorly conditioned team, and their defenses almost always find a way to choke.
July 10th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Talking LAMP Post….u gotta be joking lol. Nnamdi is thee difference of 11 games? lol. We already went 2-14 with Nnamdi before you realize that right?
July 10th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Haha 5-11? MR shut up cuuz we know you wont make that bet. You want the Raiders to go 5-11 so ur agenda can be met
July 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Fk nnamdi coming back…sick of this cra. I cant wait until he leaves so you crybabies can flood the blog with your tears
July 10th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Bauce Rules Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 11:15 am
You want the Raiders to go 5-11 so ur agenda can be met
……..
So does Al, perhaps.
July 10th, 2011 at 11:47 am
so if nnamdi leaves we need to improve the offense by like ten points
July 10th, 2011 at 11:48 am
thats 10pts/game
July 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Yeah Al triies to lose……MR you go to the max extreme in lying all the time
July 10th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Big Oak….tell me you are joking
July 10th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Nnamdi is beyond overrated
July 10th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Raiders averaged like 26 pts a game last year….now you asking for 36 a game? Becuz soft ass nnamdi is gone? Yeah like that fool has been the difference between winning and losing since 03 lol……you guys continue to overrate this fool. Free agency will be crazy and you never know if we willl trade for someone. Nnamdi’s time is up…….yall get over it
July 10th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
I said perhaps, Brien. I’d expect you to embrace such a charge. It would exonerate Al of being a retard. I mean, if he’s trying to lose, he’s merely executing his brilliant plan, right? You seem to have decided on the notion that Al is simply just senile and doesn’t know how to win anymore, however. Suit yourself.
July 10th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Nnamdi is beyond overrated
so u are comfortable with routt and cj tell me your joking
they got burned alot last season crabtree houston game sound familar
July 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
What are the chances of the Raiders getting anything in return for Nnamdi’s departure? Can he just walk?
July 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
im not here to argue wit no one just share an opinion
July 10th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
he is a ufa not a rfa
July 10th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
2012 3rd-round compensatory pick is the most the Raiders will probably get for losing Nnamdi.
July 10th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
It just doesn’t seem like Al’s style to let one of the top 10 free agents on the market walk away for nothing. Oh well, good luck Nnamdi…I was hoping you would retire as a Raider.
July 10th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Thanks YA, 3rd round pick isn’t too bad.
July 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Odds are Nnamdi’s gone when Free agency starts.. And if he is we move on, but Rod Woodson talks very highly of Nnamdi and he’s a hall of famer and knows a little about playing that position so I’ll go with his opinion that he hopes Nnamdi signs back with Oakland.. He had very little to do with the losing the past 7 years but locking down his part of the field can only be a benefit and it’s just nonsense to play that down…he’s top 5 anyway you look at it if not top 2…so who would you rather have in his place.
July 10th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
according to nfl network he is #3 behind woodson and revis so that should knock off about 4 or 5 million
July 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
How about the USA girls kickball team over coming some questionable refereeing to beat the bush eaters from Brazil!
Next we have to defeat those filthy, lilly pad licking Frenchies….
USA! USA! USA!
July 10th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
MR…..Al is king….he is dope. As long as NFL deal gets done we hosting playoff game jan 2012
July 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Haaaaa Big Oak im not comfortable with any damn db until he get a blindside pass rusher…….that’s thhe real issue. ferocious pass rush helps out even weak cbs like the ones in pitt. Routt and whoever as the RCb are fine with me
July 10th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
What do you mean if an NFL deal gets done? It’s a lockout. It’s on the owners to unlock the gates. Do you not know what a lockout is, Brien?
July 10th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Nnamdi’s worth every penny of what he’s asking for, and he’ll get it somewhere. The Raiders might as well let him go. He won’t make a difference as long as Al’s in charge. NOBODY will. Ever. The Raiders can sign the pro bowl roster and they’ll choke. Al finds ways to lose. It’s what he does. So, let Nnamdi go. Free up Al’s operating costs, so he can sign more mediocre players to huge, back loaded contracts that grab big headlines. That’s his motif anymore, anyway.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Nnamdi had very littlee to do with it? Hahahahahaha gotta be joking man. He hardly does anything in the game that changes schit. Please get this fraud out of here now
July 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
MR ARE YOU THAT STUPID?……For football to be played in the NFL this season the owner and players have to agree to a deal. What the fk are you talking about?
July 10th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
MR we know why you dont want a season….youre afraid to see Raiders win
July 10th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
If a team like Detroit signed Nnamdi? That might be just the piece to make them scary. I love to see those up and coming teams trying to scrap their way out of the bottom. I like Detroit, the city, too. A city done wrong by corporate greed and factory closures. As Too Short said once, “It’s like Oakland”. It’s an underdog city. A city everyone mocks and makes fun of. It would be great to see the Detroit Lions win again, and it would be great if Asomugha were a part of it. I might just switch teams. Heck, if a team becomes what the Raiders once were? Why not. I’m only a Raider fan in the first place because of the way they fought out of their underdog status in their heyday. I don’t see any shades of it, now. Being a Raider fan today just seems to be about having this bizarre loyalty to Al Davis.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Brien, I can’t help you if you don’t know what a lockout is. Look it up somewhere on the internet, then get back to me. You’re confusing a lockout with a strike. I can’t argue with someone so uneducated on this topic.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Who gives a schit if the owners caused a fkin lockout? Both sides will have to agree to terms on a new deal plain and simple for a season to be played
July 10th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Being afraid of seeing the Raiders win would be like being afraid of winning the Super Lotto. I’d be quite thrilled, actually. But of course, the odds of it happening are one in a million. So might as well prepare for the 99.99999% likeliness of it not happening. It’s called being realistic. It’s called adulthood. You’ll understand it someday, Brien, when your mom finally kicks you out of the house and you’re forced to give up your season tickets and be more prudent about your financial support for a failing franchise.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Brien, look up what an owner’s lockout is. You’re confusing a lockout with a strike. You clearly don’t know the difference. When you do, I’ll be more than happy to discuss this with you.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
There are only two reasons the Raiders aren’t going to re-sign Nnamdi:
1) Al Davis is cheap, he doesn’t not pay his players. Gives them back loaded contracts that never pay out.
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Gradkowski raider is this a joke? You must not know raider history. Al Davis has never been cheap! Mike brown, Ralph Wilson, they are cheap. The knock on Davis is that he OVER PAYS players that he values. Here is a short list of players, I wonder if they think he is cheap: Larry brown, deangelo hall, romo cop, rice, t brown, sapp, g warren,javon walker, russel, dhb, dmac, rod woodson. I could go on but I think this paints the picture pretty clearly. Cheap & Al Davis can never be put in the same sentence.
Secondly what do you mean by the term you keep using “back loaded contract”? You mean contracts that are highly incentive based with garunteed money up front & big money placed at the end of the contract? News flash, this is not a method used exclusively by Davis. In fact IT IS THE NORM, not just in football, but in all pro sports & throughout the entertainment industry. This is why agents hold out & negotiate for big signing bonuses & garunteed money.
Sorry gradkowski raider, but your argument is like a man with no hands, it simply doesn’t hold water.
Al Davis cheap?!?!?! Laughable
July 10th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Im very knowledgeable of what a lockout is MR….but fact of the matter is if there is going to be a seaason a new cba deal has to happen. What are yyou missing about that?
July 10th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Mom lives in Jacksonville, FL…..you gonna have to do better than that MR
July 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Mistic…..MR lies alot….he even insinuated Al wants to lose lol……also MR is the same guy who repeatedly said its worse thing for raiders to win beecuz of Al davis lol…..also people win in spite of him……just a liar
July 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Mistic, Al Davis does not overpay players, nor does he even pay them. He gives them back loaded contracts where the bulk of the money will never have to be paid out, because the player will no longer be with the team by the time the larger sums are due to be paid out. One of the reasons Nnamdi is leaving is because he’s not dumb enough to sign one of those contracts. The reason why Al brings in so many mediocre free agents and washed up has beens is because they are.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Brien, as long as you’re saying ” a deal needs to be done”, you’re demonstrating that you have no clue what a lockout is. There is no deal. The owners are locking the players out until the players meet the owners’ demands. The players are demanding nothing. They’re practicing. They’re ready to play. The owners have the gates locked, because they want the players to give something up. So, are you saying that the players need to give something up? Why not just say so? Furthermore, what should the owners give up in return? I’m not going to discuss this issue with you, Brien, until you discuss it intelligently and truthfully.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Lol MR in that Too Short song ” Short Dog’s in the House”…..how does he finish that quote about Detroit?
July 10th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Brien, I was doing you Davis worshipers a favor by bringing up the theory that Al’s trying to lose in order to get the team out of Oakland. It’s either that, or he’s a retard when it comes to team management, considering his record this past decade. I was thinking you’d go with the former. Guess not. You tell me who really respects Al the least.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
“It’s a black thang, and I’m a black man”.
love that song.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Gives Sac props in that song too.
“from San Diego, to Sacramento…”
lol. I think that’s the first rap song Sac’s been given props in. That and Dre/Tupac “California Love” are really it. So, gotta love Short Dogg’s In The House.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Love Roger Troutman’s “ooooooh ooooooh ooooooooh” after Dre says, “Sacramento, Sacramento where you at”. haha
July 10th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
MR….me mentioning the cba deal had nada to do with my stance on the issue. I was reffering to us winning this year if deal is reached…..you trying to spin it into something else cuz you know you’re got…..just like aa woman lol
July 10th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Gotta run, Brien. I know what you’re going to say. I’m white so therefore I should hate black people and rap music and blah blah and be down with the Aryan Nation like your punk ass. But guess what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPFlxN5InK0
Later.
July 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Yeah MR…..YOU LIKE detroit just like TOO SHORT cuz its a black thing and youre a black man lolololol
July 10th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Lol MR…no thats how you feel cuz youre ashamed to be white. Norco Bob, Dell, Drexl and Mista are white and dont hate black people but they also dont kiss ass in some lame hope of trying to appease black people. i dont blame them
July 10th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
MR….come on u gonna use some dopehead receding pony tail church house negga as your ammo to combat with the fact you constantly get ran over by the Bauce?……Sad but typical
July 10th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Nnamdi is beyond overrated
your a clown if u think that. If teams are willing to pay this man millions of dollars a year and make him the highest paid defense player in the game, that is saying something. If defensive coordinators, general managers and nfl scouts say nnamdi can command 19 million a year….who the hell are u to say he’s overated.
Shut up and stop being bitter at the fact that he might leave the raiders.
July 10th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Fk u b-tch….how am I being bitter he might leave? I want that guy gone! Guy does nada ever in the games. Nothing game changing and you wanna give him 19 mil when we can get a few good quality players? Hell no DaFalse91. Im the Bauce and I say he is overrated. Creates no turnovers under any circumstances and is barely above average as a tackle. Is he a good CB? Of course but for 19 tickets he aint worth it
July 10th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Nnamdi gonna get breaded out by some team…..good for him wish him the best but his time is up in Oakland. Id rather have a dope RDE or a good OG for the lines then some damn cb. Those guys are a dime a dozen. Nothing special about NNamdi’s game
July 10th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Is Nnamdi a Willie Brown type? Skip Thomas? Lester Hayes? Mike Haynes? Woodson? You can argue Nnamdi isnt above Lionel Washington,Terry McDaniel or Eric Allen as far as making plays lol
July 10th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@ Bauce…
I dont thinkyou understand that no one cares about your opinion,
” nnamdi doesnt make plays” ????
I guess either does Revis, cause he didnt create turnovers last year.
Its mind boggling to me that you dont understand the value of a player like Nnamdi. His job is to shut down the wr, not to make the QB throw the ball more to him so he can gets Interceptions.
and please dont compare players like Willie brown and lester hayes to todays players…the game is completely different, in what that can and cant do.
maybe Nnamdi should let get beat more, so the qb can throw the ball at him more, or maybe he should let the WR’s catch the ball so, he can try and force a fumble to to appease people like the bauce and a become a ” play maker”….by your logic, the CB position can never be a play making position…
July 10th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Alot more on this blog care about my opinion comppared to some Aso jizz guzzlin fool like yourself. Point in naming all those players is to highlight that this guy isnt even one of our best CBs….not even close! Ok his job is to shut down WRs….bfd if its gonna cost you 19 million. CBs come a dime a dozen. Pitt and Bmore cbs aarent good but pressure makes diamonds buddy. time for Aso to move on and we gotta move on as well
July 10th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Hahahahahahahaha Darrelle Revis is better than Aso…..why even use his name? Nnamdi had one great damn year and we were 2-14 lol. We seen Revis in playoff games already make plays….NNamdi has made a great plaay since 08 vs Carolina
July 10th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
What’s mind boggling is this do or die fest you Nnamdi lovers are promoting on here…..as if this mfka has ever put us over the top
July 10th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
How about the USA girls kickball team over coming some questionable refereeing to beat the bush eaters from Brazil!
Next we have to defeat those filthy, lilly pad licking Frenchies….
USA! USA! USA!
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Hell yeah, that was an awesome match!!
Easily the best women’s athletic even I have ever seen. Hell, it was every bit as entertaining as the NBA conference finals.
July 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Nnamdi is really, really solid, and a real good dude. Good for the community, and making the Raiders brand more global (which Al loves).
But in our defensive scheme, it makes no sense over-paying for one elite cover guy, because you really need two with our system.
You watch the games, and teams are throwing their #4 WR on Nnamdi and just running him out of the play.
I’ll take the 3rd round compensatory for him leaving, and wish him well.
July 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
We dont need to re-sign Huff or Nnamdi’s soft asses…..its more mandatory that Shaughnessy become an elite RDE or we trade for Osi Umenyiora making our pass rush the most feared in AFC possibly……cj37 and routt are enough of ball hawks to work with a fierce front line
July 10th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Vegas……he gotta go at that tag from 18-19 mil. We cannot do no BS like that knowing we got a few more holes to patch up
July 10th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Waaaaaaaah we gonna lose Nnamdi our big difference maker. After Qb the cb spot is the vital on the field waaaaaaaaah. All those game changing plays will now leave with NNamdi waaaaaah im so sad
July 10th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
@ bause
Are u serious, the raiders rush four and play man defense.. thats it
So where does this imaginary rush come from???
I bet your gonna reget it, when its the 4th qrt and the Dline is tired and the rush is weak and the only people back there to protect the raiders led is Eugene and Chris Johnson. hmmmm
July 10th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
@sauce
and Nnamdi is better then revis….If u put nnamdi in the jets Defense, he flourishes and if you put Revis in the raiders defense, he gets frustrated at the lack of pressure and constent man to man defense.
You probably think DeAngelo Hall is better than Nnamdi,
I mean wow, he had all those interceptions making him a difference maker…he most be better then Nnamdi
except for the fact that he got exposed when he lined up with nnamdi..
July 10th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
oh and Bause…If you like, you can tell your girl to come over and she can guzzle all the com she wants
July 10th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
peace yall
July 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Raiders need to sign Nnamdi so they can win the division and move onto the playoffs and be a legit contender because without Nnamdi they will be cellar dwellars. And Al Davis needs to get a GM so the GM can sign Nnamdi becaus Al Davis is to busy a man to do all the day to day things a GM needs to do, like fly all over the country and luncheons and dinner parties, recruiting and scouting and so on and so on.
DEAR MR DAVIS, KEEP NNAMDI AND STOP THE SUFFERING AND THE PAIN OF LOSING. OH YEAH, AND AFTER YOU INK NNAMDI, PLEASE HIRE A GM.
July 10th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Al Davis = Sly and the Family Stone
“we got-ta live together”
“i want to take you higher”
Al is the trend setter so we need another Lombardi Trophy to re-perch ourselves atop the football world.
July 10th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Man, are the internet sensors out in full force today. Lets see if this one gets posted. I’ve been commenting all day and not one post. What gives?
July 10th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Where is everyone? What I been tryin to say all stinking day long is that Raider owner Al Davis has got to try and keep Nnamdi. Now some of you posters couldn’t care if he stays or goes, and some of you want to keep him.
But let me tell you this. Say Asomugha goes to Green Bay or the Jets or da Bears and he just happens to be the missing link for that team and they go on to win the Super Bowl. It will not bode well for Al Davis because Al will look silly for dumping Nnamdi. Why would Al let players go to another team to help them win a Super Bowl when we need that said player to win our own Super Bowl?
If anybody has a decent answer, I’d like to know because I cant find one no matter where I look. And I don’t want to know Als’ side, I already know that, I want to know why.
July 10th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
– Bringing back cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Yeah, I know. He’s a Raider until he’s not, etc. Sorry, but when Al Davis publicly floated the possibility of Asomugha going elsewhere to bring back other players, and then Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt got big contracts it was no coincidence. Chances of it happening: Not good.
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Pathetic Al won’t keep Nnamdi Asomugha to help US win a Super Bowl but he would let Nnamdi go somewhere else and help THEM win a Super Bowl. Al Davis needs to re-hire Nnamdi and that will be the right thing to do. My gut feeling tells me Al Davis will do the right thing.
July 10th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
DaFalse91….as far as women go….I’m very communistic in that view. U can take my bz if ya want. Gonna have to do better than that if you wanna clown with the Bauce
July 10th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
DeAngelo Falls? Come on that guy has a special appearance on a weekly basis with Burn Notice. No he is not better than Aso. Hahahahahaha Reviis has way better ball skills and tackles much better than NNamdi. Aso uses his hands better but Revis recovery speed is way better.
July 10th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Bauce = Hot Sauce
July 10th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Imaginary rush? Shut up man right now. Raiders dline gets pressure on qbs. Now its not a terror cuuz we lack a spectacular RDE but still gets to qbs so spare me your crap ass excuses.
July 10th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Yes Lamp Post……Lousiana Style Hot Sauce as wwell…..goes good with every meal
July 10th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Cornfucious very very very very very happy locksown be over this week, very very happy.
July 10th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Lol we been losing with Nnamdi so this thought of we cant win without him is ridiculous lol. When have you won with him? And how do you guys think Nnamdi is gonna win a super bowl now when he leaves? GB aint getting him, Jets either and the Bears? Lol cutler led team aint winning sheeeeit. Yeah with the free 18 million you can get players for the oline and something extra to enhance the front 7. Those are far more a concern than a damn db
July 10th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
If we gonna give another player on defense alot of chips it better be Osi. Otherwise we are being totally stupid. Nnamdi is not a leader and does nothing of note that is worth 18 million dollars
July 10th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
I mean seriously how do yall figure Nnamdi wont be getting beat like a drum next season? He will get a 6 yr 80 million dollar contract from the Texans or eeagles. Neither team is winning the bowl this year. I hope he goes to Houston. They are a young team trying to get on the scene still. plus we play them week 5 in H-town. We always have lost there even with Nnamdi…..may get our first win in Houston in a long time now
July 10th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Lol we been losing with Nnamdi so this thought of we cant win without him is ridiculous lol. When have you won with him? And how do you guys think Nnamdi is gonna win a super bowl now when he leaves? GB aint getting him, Jets either and the Bears? Lol cutler led team aint winning sheeeeit. Yeah with the free 18 million you can get players for the oline and something extra to enhance the front 7. Those are far more a concern than a damn db
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OK OK OK I’ll go only so far to agree with you and I do agree that while we’ve stunk like dog poo with Nnamdi here, this year is gonna be different because of some new components: a good draft, a new head coach, new ex-raider players on the d coaching staff, a new attitude, etc. and so on.
So with all these new components, Nnamdi showing up with a new staff could be a better fit. But if he does go to another team and helps that team win the big one, it won’t look good for Al. Now if the Raider D can shut down a passing game this year or do better in passing D ranks, Al will look like a two-fold genious.
July 10th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
More than any other team, the Houston Texans have made waves about signing Nnamdi Asomugha.
Whether it be through sources within the organization its locked out players, the Texans seem keenly interested in acquiring the Oakland Raiders free agent to be.
Quarterback Matt Schaub is the latest Texan to get onboard the Asomugha lobbying train.
“I totally think it would be a great fit for him,” Schaub said this week on SiriusXM NFL Radio (via PFT). “A lot of us on the team know him fairly well. We played Oakland it seems like every year, at least since I’ve been in the organization for the last four years so we know him well. Him and Andre [Johnson] have a good relationship so I definitely see it as a great fit for him.”
The aforementioned Andre Johnson was the first to lobby the Texans to sign Asomugha back in May.
Schaub, meanwhile, is realistic in knowing the Texans will face stiff competition in vying for his services. The cornerback is this year’s Crown Jewel of free agency.
“I think about 1500 other guys across the league are going to try to recruit him for sure,” Schaub said. “But I think we definitely will do our part . . . he’s a tremendous player, arguably the best corner in the game and so he can definitely help us and really help shut down half of the field.”
http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/schaub-onboard-with-asomugha-joining-texans/
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Stupid idea, one, for losing Aso, but, two, why go to a team that needs another 25 years to get their act together to win a title when, three, he could be the missing link for the Bears or Jets or even get on board with Green Bay for a repeat.
Or he could stay here and help new head man HueJack win a title.
July 10th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Cornfucious be very very very very very mad if locksown not over next week. Very mad. Locksown need to be over, make Cornfucious very very very mad.
July 10th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
All Im saying Kangaroo is for 18 million you have to get more production from a cb. Nnamdi isnt an all world cb. All world players make game changing plays. For a few years no one even tried Deion hardlyy but when they did they paid for it. Even in his later years playing for ravens the fact that he can snag a pass and house it scared ppl. With Nnamdi he causes an incompletion and team lives on to fight another play. For all that cash? Hell no
July 10th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Bears aint schit as long as Lovie and Cutler are together……fk do the packers and jets need him for?
July 10th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
GB has their corners and jets do as well…….Packers are the champs and jets on the doorstep that quick uunder Rex…..be real
July 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Bauce the Hot Sauce I hope your right that we can get by without Nnamdi. You seem to be pretty adamant about Nnamdis’ services no longer being needed in Oakland and I hope your right because I have a good feeling he is as good as gone. I hope the money being freed up is spent well on other necessaties and Al doesn’t have to regret this.
July 10th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
If Nnamdi stays for 10-12 mil I wont trip as much cuz I know he is aa good playyer but would u wanna invest over dub in tickets for two corners? That’s nuts man
July 10th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Money will be spent….hopefully wisely regardless of our opinions
July 10th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Bauce I been reading the convo, now the Priest is talkin’ and there has nevere been a corner in the history of this game capable of winning games singularly. You must have a tandem and we’ve rarely had that since nnamdi has been here the fact that we lose is NOT his fault CORNERS by themselves cannot control a game they have can only do what they do and that is it. And I have seen the very best all the way back to trhe best EVER in Dick “night train” Lane who never won anything. They has Dick LaBaeu Lem Barney and “Night Train” when they lost. When they lost that QB they didn’t win. We won when we had a dominant pass rush and a greta backend. Tpo blame this loss won record on a corner isn’t fair.
I compare Nnamdi favorably to Mike Haynes who played on great teams in NE and they still didn’t win until he came here and play with one of the best teams in history and with another great corner. That’ what it takes Buace great teams with great players. We are now stepping into that arena where he can really shine if he stays. This is a better team than almost any he can go to save a few. Now he has to be able to see that.
But If he leaves I do agree that he is NOT the end all to be all that everyone makes him out to be. I would love to keep him but we can’t make him stay. The kids we have drafted can play it’s a matter of them stepping up and getting it done. But first and foremost that front4 is how we will either win or lose if we can get pressure on the QB consistently we wcan win big if not we wont……………period
July 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Forget it! Forget it! Don’t give him a dime. Honestly, Nnamdi really isn’t worth it…to the Raiders. Because he can play flawlessly, and it won’t save the Raiders. So let him go. He’s worth every dime he’s asking for to teams that are legit contenders. But the Raiders? Forget it. It’s like putting a brand new transmission in a car with a frozen engine. The Raiders problems are light years beyond a defensive back’s help.
July 10th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Cornfucious say locksown make me verry very sad
But Cornfucious will leave and never come back when locksown over because Cornfucious will be very very very very very happy and will not need to come in hear anymore to complain about locksown because when locksown over Cornfucious be very very very very happy.
July 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Cornfucious like to see Nnamdi stay but know owner cheap to pay big dollar after getting shafted in rear end by another big dollar man. Mr Davis take it hard up rear
and never again pay big dollar to get shaft.
Cornfucious waiting for locksown to go away.
July 10th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Cornfucious no understand why Asomugha go to Texans football very bad team when Asonugha could go to good team and get ring.
Cornfucious be happy when locksown over so he never have to come back and complain about locksown not being over. He just want to leave and never come back but can not do til locksown over. Could be this week as greedy people meet for arguments.
July 10th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Cornfucious promise to never come back when locksown over, but very very very sad about locksown.
Cornfucious have idea
Cornfucious call nfl and tell them to end locksown so he never have to ever come back. He getting tired of complaining about locksown and being very sad.
Cornfucious promise to go away when locksown over
July 10th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Cornfucious sad about locksown
But very very happy locksown over this week and I go for ever and never come back and because I will be happy about locksown being over I won’t have to come back.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:05 am
Cornfucious should never make promises … should only remember to always wash hands after wiping! … and should remember to maintain positive mental attitude!
July 11th, 2011 at 5:09 am
RAIDER Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Forget it! Forget it! Don’t give him a dime. Honestly, Nnamdi really isn’t worth it…to the Raiders. Because he can play flawlessly, and it won’t save the Raiders. So let him go. He’s worth every dime he’s asking for to teams that are legit contenders. But the Raiders? Forget it. It’s like putting a brand new transmission in a car with a frozen engine. The Raiders problems are light years beyond a defensive back’s help.
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I agree that Nnamdi is worth the money he’s going to get. I also agree that we shouldn’t be the ones to pay it. But the “frozen engine” you spoke of is being rebuilt, gradually – hopefully, by a much more skilled mechanic than what we’ve had in the past!
July 11th, 2011 at 5:11 am
Seeing Bill Callahan, Brian Schottenheimer and Rex Ryan all together on “Hard Knocks” is better entertainment than “The Three Stooges”!!
July 11th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Good morning AM crew!
Did I miss anything in the past 375+ comments?
Gabby, get these boys some coffee …
July 11th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Good Morning Nation!
I guess now, the date is July 21st? Will this ever end?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Coffee…well needed this morning! Thanks Rockstar!
July 11th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Seeing Bill Callahan, Brian Schottenheimer and Rex Ryan all together on “Hard Knocks” is better entertainment than “The Three Stooges”!!
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Tbone,
imagine being in a room with Sanjay Lal, Bob Wylie & Chuck Bresnahan!
July 11th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Scott Favre & Bonita Favre state Brett only wants to return to football if Al Davis has an open roster spot in Oakland …
Interesting that he’s friends with JCamp!
July 11th, 2011 at 6:00 am
Anybody think this CBA/labor issue will be resolved within 10 days?
My best guess is no. I’m thinking mid-August
July 11th, 2011 at 6:12 am
684.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Scott Favre & Bonita Favre state Brett only wants to return to football if Al Davis has an open roster spot in Oakland …
Interesting that he’s friends with JCamp!
Really?
July 11th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Anyways…I agree with you Rockstar. I don’t think this will get done as soon as we will hope it to be! I’m staying optimistic, but…there’s only so much I can believe!
July 11th, 2011 at 7:02 am
—”Expect the Raiders to be one of the teams in the Plaxico Burress derby. The team needs a veteran wide receiver, especially one with size. There are questions about how much the club can offer the former Giants star who was in jail the past two years, but if they can fit him under the cap, Oakland could make Burress one of their top free-agent targets”—
Thank GOD!
July 11th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Something interesting, though:
Other people familiar with the talks now think an agreement in principle will be put in place in the next seven to 10 days, a handshake deal that would allow each side to ratify the deal to start the 2011 season.
However, one member of the players’ negotiating team who has been a constant presence at the table said that players feel they have made significant concessions and overtures “that have not been reciprocated.”
The same source added that the players have agreed to cut rookie compensation in half but won’t agree to a deal that does not allow for the rookie class to become free agents at the end of four years.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6756301
Hmmm…deal in 10 days?
July 11th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Fk these lame ass reports……like Howie Mandel…deal or no deal mufka! This is gonna be a fked up ass season even if its played
July 11th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Plax is a guy Ive always liked as a WR….but he is not in game shape at all. You can catch passes in shorts and schit but its different when someone isnt blasting you in the legs since 08. We need a vet WR who has been playing……….CHAD
July 11th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Heres what I heard on Sirius this morning. Both sides HAVE agreed to the revenue split. This is HUGE. It was obviously the #1 sticking point. Right now, they allegedly only need to come to terms on the rookie wage scale, Players want 4 year rookie deal, owners want 5, and the other thing is that right of first refusal. I dont think the owners believe the right of first refusal will pass, but I think they threw it in so they could have something extra to concede.
The guys on Sirius basically said the ‘deadline’ for this mess has been 7/15 all along, and thats the day they feel it is going to get done. That will give them 7 days to accomplish free agency before the first training camps are slated to open.
July 11th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Bczizzles……I hope you right bruh bruh……this schit is killin us all….be men and make the deal. Compromise so America can get its favorite sport rollin!
July 11th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Today is July 11th…..training camp up in Napa is scheduled for end of the month….A month from now is our first preseason game at home vs the Cards. I need this tailgate baby!
July 11th, 2011 at 8:02 am
It would be hard to believe that the difference between a 4 and 5 year rookie contract would let this whole thing collapse. I really believe, especially with the players losing the court ruling on friday, that they will get this deal done this week.
July 11th, 2011 at 8:20 am
G’morning fellas.
Adam Schefter was just on ESPN claiming that both sides have motivation to get this deal done in the next 7-10 days.
He said it would have to be done in order not to lose any preseason games except the HOF game. The NFL makes 200-250 million per week of preseason. That’s right..for games that don’t even count. That league is just printing money.
So there is between 200 mil and a billon dollars that goes into the general revenue fund that both sides split, sitting on the table. That’s what’s at stake. That’s just for preseason.
So yeah, I’d say both sides have motivation to get a deal done in the next week or so.
July 11th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I dunno guys. I use to be optimistic about it but I think those scumbag lawyers are the maiin roblems
July 11th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I dunno guys. I use to be optimistic about it but I think those scumbag lawyers are the main problems
July 11th, 2011 at 8:38 am
698.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 8:34 am
I dunno guys. I use to be optimistic about it but I think those scumbag lawyers are the main problems
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Truth, as they are the only onse making money during this debacle…
Also heard the same thing on PFT, and they gave some explicit reasons why…
Follow the money, the “So Calleds” are a crafty bunch…
July 11th, 2011 at 8:42 am
I dunno guys. I use to be optimistic about it but I think those scumbag lawyers are the main problems
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I agree, this thing would have been settled weeks, if not months ago if not for the lawyers on both sides pushing for litigation over negotiation.
Fact is, both sides kicked the lawyers of the room for negotiations last week. The lawyers are only present to sign the deal into ‘law’ so to speak once the 2 sides agree.
As Buckeye mentioned, the owners stand to lose too much cash in preason, and the players have already lost what they thought was their ace in the hole with the 8th circuit ruling. Both sides are pretty motivated to get this thing over with I think.
July 11th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Lol Thec….so greedy and they dont care if a season comes or not
July 11th, 2011 at 8:53 am
701.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Lol Thec….so greedy and they dont care if a season comes or not
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Nope…The control game is so on lock that it would not surprise me if we dont have an NBA season…
Greedy FKs….
July 11th, 2011 at 8:55 am
What they need to do next is fire all the lawyers…
Worl and NFL would be a better place….
Lagal Jargon = “So called” circle talk…Try to baffle you with words and BS…
July 11th, 2011 at 8:56 am
1) first off, there is no way in hell that the owners walk away from all the money that they collect at the gate for even one preseason game.
2) part of what makes football special is the hall of fame. Unlike the nba, football fans and baseball fans care about the hall of fame. The hof game in canton is a huge marketing opportunity, and reaffirms the the so called value of the hall itself. Losing this game would hurt the tourism in canton, not only for this weekend, but year round. I cant see the nfl missing this chance to showcase its hof, and cashing in.
3) opening weekend is 9-11 weekend. Opening or the kick off weekend is already huge, but add in the tom brady and the patsies, or peyton manning or any of these other so called all american guys and you have the facade of patriotism, sentimentalism, and big time money. This essentially burns into your conciseness that to not spend money & watch on that weekend would be un-american. The NFL plus 9/11 together provide the backdrop for selling lots of tickets and merchandise, along with wiping away the bad taste of the labor dispute. The nfl comes out smelling like a rose.
The lock out is over, & the whole thing was a dog and pony show. taking away the normal nfl hot stove has made people desperate for football. once the lock out is lifted, cash will also be lifted, right out of your wallet.
July 11th, 2011 at 8:56 am
What they need to do next is fire all the lawyers…
World and NFL would be a better place….
Legal Jargon = “So called” circle talk…Try to baffle you with words and BS…
July 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am
or any of these other so called all american guys and you have the facade of patriotism, sentimentalism, and big time money.
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ROFLMAO…. Good words Bruh…
Mystic I bet you dont qualify as ” All American”….
July 11th, 2011 at 8:59 am
once the lock out is lifted, cash will also be lifted, right out of your wallet.
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hahahahahaa….Truth, even more so ….
July 11th, 2011 at 9:01 am
When this thing is over the FA frenzy is going to be incredible….Some teams are going to over reach for guys…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am
The Chiefs will be looking for another outside linebacker. M. Vrabel retired to work at OSU as a linebacker coach. Great timing, right after the draft! Not sure who they have that could fill in.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:05 am
I think there will be some reaches in FA, our own Nnamdi being one of them, Someone is going to pay 18 million a year (which translates to 1 million a tackle based on last years stat sheet) but I think the overall climate of free agency will be a lot of guys staying with there teams, even if it is on shortened 1 or 2 year deals. There are over 500 projected free agents in the NFL, I think the truly smart teams will lay back, resign their own guys and maybe get some good value in FAs a few days in.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:06 am
The Chiefs also have a TON of money to spend in free agency, and may actually be forced to spend big dollars Pioli is not normally known for. Not so sure they are that worried about Vrabel leaving.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I think the truly smart teams will lay back, resign their own guys and maybe get some good value in FAs a few days in.
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Solid point, furthermore the UDFA market has some real value also. I want DT Ian Williams.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
I like the idea of bringing Plax in at a reasonable price. I doubt it takes him long to get back into the swing of things. He’d be great on 3rd downs and in the red zone. I doubt we sign a wr tho, Chaz is basically the same type of wr, but health is a big ? Can he go all season?
July 11th, 2011 at 9:10 am
The NATION needs to take care of business during this FA period. Fill some gaps with value…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Really?
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Hwnrdr, no man
I was just playing around… but i’m sure there would be plenty of Raider fans pleased to see Favre at 42 years old sign a 3-year $50 million contract to play for Al Davis (I’d be on the fence about it – unless we drafted Pryor to groom)
July 11th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Expect the Raiders to be one of the teams in the Plaxico Burress derby.
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LMN,
I don’t know where you got this from and I don’t care.
I like it! Make it happen Grandpa Davis
July 11th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Deja Vu, Plax is a good big body WR however, i am not sure he will be game ready as he wont have his NFL legs under him, nor will he be in NFL shape. I am not sure what the return curve is for WR’s with a few years layoff.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Thec, i’m not sure either how long it would take Plax to get into game shape, but i don’t think it would hurt to bring him in if the price is right.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:18 am
The Raiders are literally mentioned in connection with EVERY free agent at one point or another. Its been pretty clear for a few years that we wont be pursuing a FA WR. Chaz will get his shot to play a healthy season, but I bet this will be his last if he isnt healthy for 16 games, DHB gets his shot, but I guarantee he restructures his money, because of our cap position. Murphy hasnt been spectacular, but he has shown flashes. Ford could be special if he continues to grown like the 2nd half of last year. Higgins is gone. NMiller wont make through camp. DMoore will get his shot too…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:19 am
DMOORE….Yep…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:20 am
When this thing is over the FA frenzy is going to be incredible
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I don’t know about this. There will be several teams going “all out” but I think 25+ will keep it modest or only be involved in cheap depth/competition signings (including undrafted players)
Oakland will be one of them. Al Davis will make a play for Plaxico Burress, Terrell Owens or T.J. Housh (as he should) and get 2 or 3 FA O-Lineman that might not even make the newspaper. Then he’ll look for another QB. My best guess is Matt Leinart, Joey Harrington or Patrick Ramsey (pick one)
July 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
I remember when Tim brown was up for free agency, and all of the experts claimed Davis couldn’t afford him They said we couldnt make it work with the cap and he was going to be a bronco (makes me throw up just typing that). Some how old uncle Al found a way. In fact almost every time the pundits say we cant resign someone we end up doing it any way. Goes to show that davis gets what he wants, and money will never be the issue.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:22 am
I agree that Chaz will get a shot this season and it’s a make or break year for him. I just get irritated that he sits the bench more than he plays. I’m hoping he stays healthy, so we’ll see.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am
DHB gets his shot, but I guarantee he restructures his money, because of our cap position.
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doubtful, BCZ.
His base salary this season is only $1 million
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5093/darrius-heyward-bey
Click “view contract details”
You think a hard working WR heading into his 3rd NFL season is gonna give back guaranteed money because Al Davis chose to overdraft him and have guys like Russell, Gradkowski & Campbell at QB the past 2 years?
LOL!
July 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Buckeye hope u right bruh
July 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Yeah we need depth at every postion, not just bech warmer guys or the oft injured…I have allways like Chaz however, he needs to step up big, he and DHB…
July 11th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Plexiglass is not micheal vick. micheal vick is a once in a generation talent, and an elite level player at his position. We have never seen a qb like him before. he was able to come out of prison and a year later he had an mvp type season. Plexiglass will never do that, he is and wasnt that type of athlete. he doesnt have raider speed, his hands , work ethic, locker room demeanor, and judgment are all in question.
The raiders already have two guys with better hands, ( chaz, moore), and 4 guys with comparable size, murph, d moore, dhb, chaz the glass. Not to mention that all of these are real speed burners as well.
I dont see what plexiglass would bring to the table if it isnt locker room leadership…and definitely isnt locker room leadership.
No thanks
July 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
We didnt pursue a healthy TO the last 3 times he was a FA, why do you insist on believing that we will pursue him fresh off of surgery that will surely keep him sidelined until mid-November, and possibly longer than that? Housh turned us down last year, he will do the same this year, in the UNlikely event we look at him again. He looked terrible to end the year. Truthfully, the ONLY vet WR I see us bringing in is Ochocinco. He has the connection to Hue, say what you will between him and TO about whos better, but I doubt you studied Bengals game film, or even watched a single game, and you are making your judgments purely off of stats. Ill take the guy with the healthy leagues 100 times out of 100
July 11th, 2011 at 9:30 am
RRS…let go of the TO dream…..I guarantee you that wont happen. RRS it takes two years to fully heal from an acl injuury….two! Al will not sign TO….its over for that guy. Housh sucks now and has been for the last 3 years. plax not in football shape. Chad and Hue connection is stronger than those other 3….dont let thaat not be taken seriously
July 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Follow the money, the “So Calleds” are a crafty bunch…
Legal Jargon = “So called” circle talk…Try to baffle you with words and BS…
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And “So Calleds” is jargon for what ?
Khazars ?
Better check to see if Washington lawyer DeMaurice Smith – and how many members of his legal team are – “So Calleds”.
That Smith is a crafty fellow.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I’ll get c4 and blow the fkin stadium up or do what I was gonna to Russell and get a lead pipe and put in work on TO’s knee. This muthafka aint playing in my coliseum for my team or my cityy. I lives thru the fairy rice crap and nada but evil happened as a result
July 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Pacman Jones is going to need a so called lawyer.
Too bad Johnnie Cochran isn’t available.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
The Chiefs will be looking for another outside linebacker. M. Vrabel retired to work at OSU as a linebacker coach. Great timing, right after the draft! Not sure who they have that could fill in.
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KC has Derrick Johnson & Jovan Belcher at ILB. Tamba Hali at one OLB spot
the other would go to either Demorrio Williams or Andy Studebaker. But they drafted Justin Houston (Georgia) and Gabe Miller (Oregon St.)
They wont miss Vrabel …
July 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Bczizzles……yes exactly we see eye to eye on this vet WR thing. Chad got doubled all year while TO didnt. He still got 60 plus receptions. He is way better thaan anyone on our roster. Too bad Al thinks DHB IS A STAR AND chaz Schilens can stay healthy lol
July 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Too bad Johnnie Cochran isn’t available
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LOL!
July 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Ninerwoman49 shut up u gradkowski d–k chaser
July 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I wish Johnnie was alive so I can murder Ninerwoman49 and get away with it
July 11th, 2011 at 9:42 am
KC is finished yall…..Weiss is gone meaning Matt Cassell returns to his 09 self. Mullet Man Haley bout to get axed
July 11th, 2011 at 9:43 am
We didnt pursue a healthy TO the last 3 times he was a FA, why do you insist on believing that we will pursue him fresh off of surgery that will surely keep him sidelined until mid-November, and possibly longer than that? Housh turned us down last year, he will do the same this year, in the UNlikely event we look at him again. He looked terrible to end the year. Truthfully, the ONLY vet WR I see us bringing in is Ochocinco.
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three things, BCZ
1. How do you know that we never pursued Owens?
2. How do you know that T.J. turned us down?
3. Chad Johnson is under contract with the Bungles
you think Marvin Lewis wants to trot out a rookie QB (Palmer retired – sold his house) without either one of last year’s starting WR’s when this HC has been on the hot seat for the past 3 years? I don’t think he wants to start rebuilding in his 8th year with the club
July 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I realize his base is only about 1 million, but yes I DO think he will restructure his deal to help the team meet the salary cap situation, as I think a few other guys will also. Im not saying he is going to have to ‘give back’ money. But I do think he will spread that bonus money out to help the team that is sticking by him and has faith in his success.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:45 am
I have no problem with Ochocinco suiting up in the silver and black either. If his only problem is tweeting, i can live with that. He doesn’t seem to get in trouble with the law, he’s just an attn whore.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Since the Bauce is a twit, you must acquit.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Rockstar…I was hoping you were joking…lol
Bauce, Post 737…OUCH!
July 11th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’ll take an acquittal as long as that punk Ninerwoman49 isnt on the blog anymore
July 11th, 2011 at 9:51 am
KC is finished yall…..Weiss is gone meaning Matt Cassell returns to his 09 self. Mullet Man Haley bout to get axed
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Cassel might just be getting started. He passed for over 3100 yards & 27 TD’s last year, despite having the #1 rushing offense. Led his team to the playoffs for the first time in forever and made the Pro Bowl (all in a season in which he had an Appendectomy)
then they drafted a WR in April to put opposite Bowe
Haley is a joke. I agree with that. Bill Muir was the in house replacement for Charlie Weiss, which means he knows the system and they’ve hired Jim Zorn (who might be the worst HC ever – but is a darn good QB Coach) for QB’s
July 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
The Queefs (Chiefs) are my most hated rival in this division. I wouldn’t feel bad at all if they went 0-16! LoL
July 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Hwnrdr…..i deep down have no issues with jewish folks….i partied with a bunch even LAMBORGHINI DOORS a few of thier women. I flat out dont like Ninerwoman49. He is soft just like La Melissa and GayesDaze37
July 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
TJ Housh might be done…but I never understood the logic that b/c he did not sign with the Raiders last year, he is not going to sign this year?
TJ Housh had a situation last year where he could sign anywhere for league minimum and still get paid like a No. 1 receiver. The money owed to TJ by the Hawks was only diminished by the amount subtracted by team that signed him. Why would he sign with a team last year that was rebuilding v. a team that was on the cusp of a championship?
July 11th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Plaxico – locker room cancer.
T.O. – probably finished. Guarantee you will not see him crying “JaJason’s my quarterback, man”
85 – way too Hollywood and reality show, but can still be a force if he puts his mind to it.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Deja Vu….im not feeling KC either. Ive been to the Fountain City a good number of times and it gets heated at bars with thier fans. They make me sick. My Unclee lives out there and of course lil cuz plays for Mizzou and theyre down with raiders
July 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
isnt the cap going to be set at 140 mil? if so the silver and black are in great shape. besides contrary to popular belief, Al davis has always been a cap wizard. Every year we make huge moves either signing our own guys that people say we cant or bring in a huge fa that people say we cant afford.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
(Chiefs) are my most hated rival in this division
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Mine too. I live in Missouri
I’m surrounded by thier fans!
but you can’t deny the fact that their team is improving and the rebuild worked and is in process
July 11th, 2011 at 9:58 am
RRS….I truly believe KC is going 6-10 or 7-9….they not sneaking up on schit now. I dont think they got enough talent
July 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
And “So Calleds” is jargon for what ?
Khazars ?
Better check to see if Washington lawyer DeMaurice Smith – and how many members of his legal team are – “So Calleds”.
That Smith is a crafty fellow.
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Yeah Smith is a “so Called” allright…Negro, colored, black, african american..etc…
July 11th, 2011 at 10:01 am
And KC has no depth whatsoever……let them get injured and watch how they crumble
July 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Matt Cassell is terrible. As long as he is the QB, KC is going nowhere.
They had the best coaching staff on the division last year.
This year, far from it.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:03 am
You wouldn’t ever catch me at Arrowhead! I’d prolly snap on someone. lol I worked with a few KC fans and they were so cocky. Dude used to wear his Okoye jersey. ha ha I used to ask him if he bought that jersey at the Salvation army.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Everyone is concerned about our backup qb situation hahahahahahaha KC is worse. Tyler Palko is a UFL/CFL type. And my favorite redneck Qb Brodie Croyle never lets me down…….”dwayne bowe look here you uppity negger you better run your crossing routes shorter or Ill have the klan string u up boy wheeeeeeew!”
July 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
561.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
I love the youth in our infield Sizemore, Carter , & Weeks!
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Chris Carter looks terrible at the plate. Leaning on his front foot and swinging the bat like a stiff with zero confidence.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Mine too. I live in Missouri
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Damn RR you must have been glowing last season when we swept them. I’d be rocking my jersey proudly if i lived in KC country!
July 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Hwnrdr…..i deep down have no issues with jewish folks….i partied with a bunch even LAMBORGHINI DOORS a few of thier women. I flat out dont like Ninerwoman49. He is soft just like La Melissa and GayesDaze37
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I deep down have no issues with black folks. I MERKAVA’D a few of their women. I flat out don’t like Brainless Brianna. She is soft and not a true Raider fan like Hayes.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Deja Vu….uncle been out there since 1989 and Ive met not one soul who hates the Chiefs like him. He hates the Chiefs the way I hate the 49ers
July 11th, 2011 at 10:07 am
740.bcz24 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I realize his base is only about 1 million, but yes I DO think he will restructure his deal to help the team meet the salary cap situation, as I think a few other guys will also. Im not saying he is going to have to ‘give back’ money. But I do think he will spread that bonus money out to help the team that is sticking by him and has faith in his success.
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I agree. DHB needs to restructure and they need to spread that ridiculous bonus money out to help the cap situation for the Raidders even more.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Hahahahaha ninerwoman49 you dont have the equiptment to do that……Im not a fan….thats what u dont get. Im beyond that tag. Soft? Hahahahhahaha your softer than a teenage girl’s pillow you punk and i’ll mop the floor with your face b-tch
July 11th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Yeah Smith is a “so Called” allright…Negro, colored, black, african american..etc…
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Oh, I get it now. “So Called” is jargon for ‘Negro, colored, black, african american..etc…’
Glad you clarified that.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Ha Ha Bauce your Uncle must have been happy as hell last season, just like i mentioned to RR. I don’t think i could stomache seeing so many chiefs fans in 1 place..seriously.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Im not a fan….Im third generation with this. Family been down and dirty for the Raiders since 1960 at Kezar before Al Davis came. Im not like most who jumped on becuz it was cool I had no choice in the matter I was born into this. Hell no Im not a fan like GayesDaze37
July 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Deja Vu…..they went into hiding when Unc wanted to get those payments. He bet sweep and the broom came out but folks didnt wanna man up
July 11th, 2011 at 10:19 am
When Chad gets released….get him Al…..if Osi still wants out….get him Al. Teams will be afraid to come to oakland then. oppposing teams have to warm up in the north endzone near the Bauce and Norco….wont be fun for them but fun for us
July 11th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Bauce, Lmao.. Absolutely love it! As long as we can keep J. Charles in check, i think we can sweep them again. Route should be able to contain Bowe. Nothing like seeing Haley hands on knees looking at the grass trying to figure out what hit him.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:24 am
three things, BCZ
1. How do you know that we never pursued Owens?
2. How do you know that T.J. turned us down?
3. Chad Johnson is under contract with the Bungles
you think Marvin Lewis wants to trot out a rookie QB (Palmer retired – sold his house) without either one of last year’s starting WR’s when this HC has been on the hot seat for the past 3 years? I don’t think he wants to start rebuilding in his 8th year with the club
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1. I dont know for sure, but TO’s big mouth never said anything about it, and we have never had him in for a workout either
2. TJ pretty much said he turned us down last year
3. Chad Ochocinco WILL be release before the season. The comments both Marv Lewis and Ocho have said pretty much bring it to a guarantee that he will be released.
Yes I do think Marv Lewis would rather start this season without TO and 85. He doesnt want the media sideshow ANYMORE. Period. I will bet you ANYTHING you want that Ochocinco will NOT be on the Bengals roster when they play their first regular season game.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Bauce, you said your mom lives in J-ville? What side of town? I’m in the Southside area.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Brainless Brianna, are you as stupid in real life as you try to be on this blog ?
Don’t know how many people you’ve threatened to murder, beat down etc. You’re a real danger. I’m shaking. A true gangsta and thug. Going to c4 stadiums, bust knee caps and mop floors.
I bet your mommy in Fla. is proud.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:31 am
# DKnight007 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 10:06 am
561.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 9th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
I love the youth in our infield Sizemore, Carter , & Weeks!
^^^^^^^
Chris Carter looks terrible at the plate. Leaning on his front foot and swinging the bat like a stiff with zero confidence.
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Carter is really struggling, but i dont think he is as bad as he is showing now. he looks like a kid that is a bit shell shocked by major leauge pitching. Keep him here and let him find his way, we will know what he is by the end of the year. I do think he will break out of his slump, just like he did at the end of last year.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Deja Vu…..mom stays in Wesconnect….right near I-295 before going to Orange Park Mall…..southside? U went to Bolles, Wolfson or Mandarin?
July 11th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Time to call up miller, and taylor
July 11th, 2011 at 10:34 am
My moms is always proud of me. That’s how parents are….obviously you have no offspring and you didnt get love from your parentss….on that note I actually feel sorry for ya
July 11th, 2011 at 10:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
(Chiefs) are my most hated rival in this division
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Mine too. I live in Missouri
I’m surrounded by thier fans!
but you can’t deny the fact that their team is improving and the rebuild worked and is in process
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KC will be right in the mix this year. They have enough talent and are going to be better on defense.
I used to live in Colorado during the Elway years. I know how you feel being surrounded by Chiefs fans. I guess its why the Broncos are the only team I hate with such passion. I can stomach a loss to any other team than the Donkeys.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Gangsta and thug? That shows how lame you are. Most gangsta and thug type cant and dont wanna throw down. Im quite the opposite
July 11th, 2011 at 10:36 am
All this talk of DHB restructuring… I have to ask, if you were in his shoes, would you give back millions of dollars to prove your loyalty?
unh huh. me neither. Money talks.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Deja Vu……do you hit up Sneakers to watch the games or do u just post at the house?
July 11th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Bauce i’m on the west side and OP quite a bit for work. I didn’t go to school here. Moved here 5 years ago when my buddy from NY needed a roommate. had to kick his ass out tho, didn’t want to work or pay bills. I try to get to some Jags games, staduium is only 8 miles from here and can get cheap ass tix seeing they can’t sell out.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:41 am
No ones asking him to give back anything? Where have you seen anyone ask him to give back one cent? Restructuring means instead of getting 1.3 mil in base salary and 5.5 mill roster bonus, he spreads that bonus out over a few more years. To be more cap friendly. Players do it all the time. Its completely justified in his case too. His production hasnt come anywhere NEAR his salary.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Yeah man, live down the road from Sneakers, that place is packed on sundays. I try to hit up the Sneakers at the beach, nothing like footbal, beer and women in bikinis!
July 11th, 2011 at 10:45 am
bcz24 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 10:41 am
No ones asking him to give back anything? Where have you seen anyone ask him to give back one cent? Restructuring means instead of getting 1.3 mil in base salary and 5.5 mill roster bonus, he spreads that bonus out over a few more years. To be more cap friendly. Players do it all the time. Its completely justified in his case too. His production hasnt come anywhere NEAR his salary.
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Maybe I don’t understand how this works. So he gives back some of his bonus money, and it’s protected even if he’s cut? And does he get any added interest for amortizing his bonus? If that’s the case, I could see that type of restructure.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Jax is the only city in FL that has a thong law i believe. Hopefully this new mayor throws that law out the damn window!
July 11th, 2011 at 10:47 am
I will bet you ANYTHING you want that Ochocinco will NOT be on the Bengals roster when they play their first regular season game.
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You’re probably right, but you gotta admit AJ Green and 85 would be a pretty good tandem. Without 85’s veteran presence you’re probably looking at starting a rookie at QB and as the nbr 1 rcvr. Not a great formula for success.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I dislike Chief and Bronco fans but Charger fans are by far the worse. Bandwagon ass fans who get their stadium overtaken alot and never won sheeeeeit. I hate them with a passion. One time in 02 i went to see UCLA vs Sdsu at Failcom wearing my Woodson jersey. Many werent apreciating it and told me as such. Well i was way more of a loose cannon then and sure let em know how I felt. Walking back to the car some jcat gettin onto the freeway yells Raider Suck and throws a bottle at me lol. So a grab and rock and Eckersly’d it to the back of his window. he wasnt gonna do schit about it too
July 11th, 2011 at 10:49 am
That was back when I brought the butterfly knife everywhere……yes my buttefly knife Im nothing nice i’ll cut a guy twice
July 11th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Deja Vu…..Sneakers by the beach got so many bzies….everytime I visit I hit it up. I lived in Jax for 2 yyears before gettin kicked outta school lol. I did it on purpose to get back to cali lol. I lived on Northside off Lem Tuurner….I bet u can imagine bruh
July 11th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Deja Vu you must live off SOUTHSIDE or Beach Blvd
July 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Watched a damn good flick yesterday called Hot Coffee.
LMFAO at the TORT reformers.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Chad<—-70 catches 1000 yards 8 tds for sure in oakland
July 11th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Is that right J heezy
July 11th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Bauce…Yeah the northside is pretty rough. I don’t know how many times i worked that area and kids packing pistols in the broad daylight. I’m jealous tho, i’ve never been to the west side (Cali), would love to go to a game!
July 11th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Well i was way more of a loose cannon then…
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Glad to see you’ve calmed down and matured since then.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Be back later…have at it yall
July 11th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Live on Baymeadows, same rd one of the Sneakers is on. This Sneakers may be new tho, you may have moved before they built this one. I live off I-95 and Baymeadows, right behind Buffalo wild wings. I’m a regular there.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Dem basturds they smart!
July 11th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Deja Vu….northside was rough man….Jville is rough real rough. They got a chip on their shoulder like we do in oakland becuz Miami like LA is the big time city in the state. I got into many fights there from avenues Mall to Jax landing….it was always on and ready
July 11th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Has Brien showed up yet to remind us that Nnamdi Asomugha is the worst CB to ever play football?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Brien, you’d get in a fight at a Buddhist meditation.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Damn so Jax has 3 sneakers now?….Baymeadows is nice area…got some cool lookin bzies round there…..immo they need to move jags to Orlando a real city dammit. I love Orlando
July 11th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Brien, you’re the opposite of enlightenment.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Lol MR….NAW i wont fight the bhuddist cats. They seem too cool….when did I ever say Nnamdi was worse cb ever? Show that post….we will wait
July 11th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Plax is a 100 times better than any receiver we’ve had in the last five years. I can’t believe how little attention the position has gotten during that time. It all started with Kiffin trading Randy Moss and then not re-signing Jerry Porter the next year in favor of breaking the bank for an injured Javon Walker. A disaster ever since. Poor Jamarcus.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:07 am
MR go on and tell us they will play football this year without a new cba deal….that one was hilarious
July 11th, 2011 at 11:07 am
The Landing is a cool place, love drinking at Hooters and checking out the females. They say Jax is gonna be like Miami in 10 years, i hope not. It’s easy to get around here, 15-20 min to get anywhere in the city.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Naw not opposite of enhlightment….im the epitome of Awesomeness
July 11th, 2011 at 11:09 am
“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”. King Henry VI Quote (Act IV, Scene II)
Who knew Billy Shakespeare was a football fan?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
I only know of 2 sneakers, i think there was one on Atlantic that got shut down. The jags will relocate eventually, they can’t sell out. The fans are rough, they won’t go unless they’re winning.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Little Brian the Genital isn’t going to fight anyone. He’s had an open invitation to come rumble here at the Ritz pool for weeks and he’s ran for the hills everytime!
PLUS I promised that as soon as I finished slapping him around I’d let him have a free Mai Tai from the PARTYBRO 8500 and keep the commemorative mug for only $39.95 extra.
Even that wasn’t enough for the scared little wuss.
The problem is, when he was growing up his mommy told him that his girlish figure was the same as Raider CBs and WRs. So even though he grew up weak and petite, he still thought he could mess with the big dawgs.
Poor little Brian, huh dudes?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Overheard from a recent owners’ meeting:
“They ought to be happy. They used to be in shackles” (laughs roaring throughout the room)
July 11th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Yeah Jax has been growing but that god awful smell around some parts gotta go. I doubt it will ever get like Miami. Clubs close at 2am and schit. jax has large landmass but have a podunk mindset. Remember Disneyworld and all of those attractions in Orlnado were suppose to be in Jax but city officials thought it was a bad idea…….wow
July 11th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Beecher u been invited to Raider games since 08 and kindly declined…..season coming soon lil guy what will be yoir excuse then?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Beecham, shouldn’t you be in a hot tub with a bunch of stippers that have adams apples, blaring Joe Jackson’s “We’re coming out”?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Your little Ritz poolside crap is brand new and you went to impplement it to your fake life only recently. Im the Champion here and I decide what will go on. you are a peon. but we know why you wont show up to a game
July 11th, 2011 at 11:16 am
MR…..beecher brags about getting reach arounds lol….coming out? He has been out the closet
July 11th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Beecher oh wait the “reach around” thing was a typo just like the 91 freeway and Marina Del Ray overlapping…..oh yes now we get it
July 11th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Beecher isnt by a pool….he is stuck in an apartment by Culver City blasting Chaka Khan’s “Im Every Woman”
July 11th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Bout to jet…..but MR lighten up man life isnt so all bad……and Beecher a deal may happen soon first game is Aug 11th……no excuses lil buddy…….Bauce Outro
July 11th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Yeah our wide receiver situation is the reason Jamarcus’ fat lazy ass fell asleep in qb meetings and showed up to camp. Your fkn delusional.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:28 am
This flies in the face of the popular beleif that davis is a meddling micromanager to with all of his coaches. If you are shakey (cable, callahan, white bugel, kiffin)you are told what to do. if you know what your doing davis sticks to the personel side and leaves the schemes to you, gruden madden flores. Davis doesnt trust many but so far Hu jack has the keys to franchise.
“Coach Davis is a man who has one vision in mind and that’s winning,” “That’s all he’s interested in. That’s all I’m interested in. I have total autonomy. I’m the head coach of this football team. …
“We talk about plays and how they work and why they don’t work, and that’s tremendous,”
“[Davis] talks football 24-7. He’s not one who rules with an iron fist and says you better do this. We’re all chasing one thing, which is winning.”
Hu Jack city!!!!!
July 11th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Mistic, is that why Davis drafted Jano with a number one overall pick when Gruden was here? Because Davis doesn’t meddle with coaches who know what they’re doing?
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