Training camp on the fly
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, July 11th, 2011 at 11:11 am in Oakland Raiders.
The ESPN report authored by Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen conveniently covers the network for breaking the story in the event of an NFL labor settlement on July 21 as well as if it doesn’t happen.
More interesting is the “transition rules” contained in the report and how rosters will be shaped if and when an agreement is ratified when the owners meet in 10 days.
Basically, it would ensure that Raiders training camp opens on time (July 26), but that the Napa Marriott will be seeing players arrive at different points during the camp process unless they move quickly to get their own unsigned players under contract.
Rather than having virtually the entire team in place on the reporting date, players will come in based on deadlines set by the new agreement, and Hue Jackson’s “Build a Bully” camp opening will have a lot of key components missing at the outset.
PFT broke down the ESPN report like this:
4 days after the ratification: Teams will be able to sign undrafted players. On the same day, teams will get a three-day window to re-sign their own players. It’s safe to say tampering will go nuts in this period as agents shop deals around.
7 days after ratification: Free agency starts. So does the league year. A lot of huge deals figure to be signed within hours. Magic.
12 days after ratification: Rosters will be set at 90 players. That’s a lot of signing in a very short amount of time.
13 days after ratification: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets. (We’re assuming RFAs will only be third year players at this point, but that isn’t confirmed.)
17 days after ratification: A four-day period for teams to match restricted free-agent offer sheets ends.
22 days after ratification: This one isn’t agreed upon, but it could be a deadline for rookies to sign. Um, wow. This unprecedented idea is something we’ll delve into later.
26 days after ratification: The signing period for RFAs, franchise players, and transition tag players ends.
If this transition process is implemented, teams that don’t have a lot of issues with regard to restricted and unrestricted free agents will benefit from a relatively full camp experience.
Otherwise, players such as Zach Miller and Michael Bush, should they play under their tenders instead of deals, could miss most of training camp.
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July 11th, 2011 at 11:15 am
These owners did a number on this off-season, didn’t they? No amount of money can satisfy them.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Alright, you guys, repost your comments from the last thread. Heavens forbid anyone misses your literary works of art.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:31 am
yo
July 11th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Little Brian the Genital isn’t going to fight anyone. He’s had an open invitation to come rumble here at the Ritz pool for weeks and he’s ran for the hills everytime!
PLUS I promised that as soon as I finished slapping him around I’d let him have a free Mai Tai from the PARTYBRO 8500 and keep the commemorative mug for only $39.95 extra.
Even that wasn’t enough for the scared little wuss.
The problem is, when he was growing up his mommy told him that his girlish figure was the same as Raider CBs and WRs. So even though he grew up weak and petite, he still thought he could mess with the big dawgs.
Poor little Brian, huh dudes?
July 11th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Blah Blah Blah
Jerry, take off the rest of July, close down this cesspool.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:47 am
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Mistic, is that why Davis drafted Jano with a number one overall pick when Gruden was here? Because Davis doesn’t meddle with coaches who know what they’re doing?
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Davis will always have the final say on personnel. Im fine with it, so is Hu Jack
July 11th, 2011 at 11:47 am
I will bet you ANYTHING you want that Ochocinco will NOT be on the Bengals roster when they play their first regular season game
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BCZ,
I’m not a betting man. Never have been. that’s JFB’s gig
Who is gonna be A.J. Green’s mentor?
Andre Caldwell, Jordan Shipley or Jerome Simpson?
I think it would be bad enough having Dalton start 16 games at QB as a rookie. Benson as an unrestricted free agent, too.
I honestly don’t think Lewis wants to go 4-12 with a bunch of young dudes and enter the Andrew Luck sweepstakes next year. He doesn’t have that much clout as a Head Coach. My prediction is he’ll get fired if they don’t win more than 8 games this season (even minus Palmer & Owens)
July 11th, 2011 at 11:52 am
No thanks to ochostinko as well. the last thing this team needs is a basketball wives spin off show in the locker room.
July 11th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I honestly don’t see why DHB would ever consider restructuring for the Raiders (if they ask him to).
He’s entering Year #3 when most young WR’s start to “get it” and who are we gonna target with that extra cash anyways? probably a vet WR to steal some of his reps! lol
Now if Al Davis said we’re using that money to bring back Michael Bush, Zach Miller, Michael Huff or Nnamdi Asomugha? he might think it over, because he probably knows we need those players to win football games
However, he probably also knows that Robert Gallery restructured his contract 3 or 4 times to help the Raiders out and when he became a free agent and the two sides met to talk about a new deal he gets lowballed. Gallery at $2.5 million per season? He just saw Seymour get $15 million annually and Routt $10 million and even Hiram “stiff armed” Eugene gets paid. DHB doesn’t want to be disrespected like that. He probably also knows that with JCampbell at QB he’s not gonna put up Top 10 WR #’s
July 11th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
KC is going nowhere.
They had the best coaching staff on the division last year.
This year, far from it.
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Jhill,
the only difference in the coaching staff is Charlie Weiss as OC.
If he makes that much of a difference, why didn’t we hire him as HC instead of Hue Jackson?
Maybe you’ll pull a line like BCZ and say he’s already turned us down
July 11th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
KC has no depth whatsoever……let them get injured and watch how they crumble
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Bauce,
who is our depth at QB? Kyle Boller
who is our depth at MLB? Ricky Brown
who is our depth at TE? Myers or Gordon
who is our depth at OL? Alex Parsons & Roy Schuening
who is our depth at safety? Eugene & Brown
I hope we stay healthy !!!
July 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
He probably also knows that with JCampbell at QB he’s not gonna put up Top 10 WR #’s
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I dont get this at all. Are you saying JC will stunt the development of DHB? No sir im afraid that isnt true.In fact I would argue the opposite. Because JC is the qb DHB will have a chance to continue his growth. JC was the qb that coaxed a career day out of DHb 100yds and a td.
The truth is DHB will determine what kind of a pro he will be based on his own talent. Jc makes him better not worse.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
DeSean Jackson: Higgins and I “would be a dangerous combination”
July 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
[...] With all that being said the proposed deadline schedule does give us an idea of what the Oakland Raiders are up against relative to getting into camp and assembling a team for 2011. Jerry McDonald has a breakdown of all those deadlines here. [...]
July 11th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The truth is DHB will determine what kind of a pro he will be based on his own talent. Jc makes him better not worse.
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imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
imagine if Donald Driver had Anthony Dilweg & Ty Detmer as his QB’s instead of Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers
ship Johnnie Lee Higgins to Indy or New England and he’s a Pro Bowler.
Russell & Gradkowski? bust
July 11th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
RR, you may get good production out of JLH if he is sent to another enviroment however, he has not been the same since gettting his bell rung by weddie…
July 11th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
This is one of my favorite DMORRE highlights; saw this one on live TV…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcu6TCZ0HMM
DMOORE has heart….
July 11th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Mistic, having the final say on personnel is one thing, wasting a number one overall pick on a kicker is another. I’d say the latter is certainly meddling, in every sense of the word. Davis meddled with Gruden, too, Mistic, and, statistically speaking, Gruden was our best coach since Tom Flores. So, it doesn’t matter if the coach knows what he’s doing. Davis is going to meddle.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Mistic,
further more, the Raiders are a run-first team (or at least they should be) with McFadden, Bush & Jones in the stables. They we got Miller, Ford & Reece as receiving options. I just don’t see DHB or Murphy putting up big time numbers
Also take into account that we have a new OC (not Jackson or Tollner) but Saunders and his 600 page playbook.
Also take into account that we have 4 new starters on the O-Line. Assuming that these youngsters will step in right away and prove to be better in pass protection than Cable’s vets is a dangerous assumption imo
Heyward-Bey will get 70 catches, 1000 yards or 10 TD’s when the Raiders get a franchise QB
July 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
it doesn’t matter if the coach knows what he’s doing. Davis is going to meddle.
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Al Davis is probably the most “involved” owner in professional sports
Which means that he gets both credit and blame, depending on the year (Mostly blame since the Super Bowl collapse)
July 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The truth is DHB will determine what kind of a pro he will be based on his own talent. Jc makes him better not worse.
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imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
imagine if Donald Driver had Anthony Dilweg & Ty Detmer as his QB’s instead of Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers
ship Johnnie Lee Higgins to Indy or New England and he’s a Pro Bowler.
Russell & Gradkowski? bust
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i dont completely buy into this theory. talent will always show itself. Especially at the wr position. true the numbers will be better with better players around you, but the talent doesnt change. Only the qb is totaly dependant on the players around him.
Tim brown was still tim brown no matter who the qb was.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Mistic,
further more, the Raiders are a run-first team (or at least they should be) with McFadden, Bush & Jones in the stables. They we got Miller, Ford & Reece as receiving options. I just don’t see DHB or Murphy putting up big time numbers
Also take into account that we have a new OC (not Jackson or Tollner) but Saunders and his 600 page playbook.
Also take into account that we have 4 new starters on the O-Line. Assuming that these youngsters will step in right away and prove to be better in pass protection than Cable’s vets is a dangerous assumption imo
Heyward-Bey will get 70 catches, 1000 yards or 10 TD’s when the Raiders get a franchise QB
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My dispute is the fact that you say DHb wont produce because JC is the qb. The facts are that DHB has had his best production with jc as qb.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
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Plug David Carr in with those 49ers and he’s a Pro Bowler. The 49ers made Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac and Jeff Garcia look like world beaters. Remember Steve Young in Tampa? Joe Gibbs won three SBs with three different QBs. Bill Parcells did it with two with the Giants. It always has and always will be about the system and the supporting cast.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Tim brown was still tim brown no matter who the qb was.
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Agreed.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
LMFAO!! Only a Raider fan….
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
the Raiders are a run-first team (or at least they should be)
July 11th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RRS, just to get your up to speed, Mistic said that Davis only meddles when coaches don’t know what they’re doing. I was responding to that.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Tim brown was still tim brown no matter who the qb was
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who was Tim Brown in 1992?
who was Tim Brown in 2003?
now go back and look to see who was playing QB. directly related imo
remember Randy Moss in Oakland? and he had Kerry Collins & Aaron Brooks!
Can you imagine what Randy’s stats would have looked like with Russell or Grads? LOL
July 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Jhill,
the only difference in the coaching staff is Charlie Weiss as OC.
If he makes that much of a difference, why didn’t we hire him as HC instead of Hue Jackson?
Maybe you’ll pull a line like BCZ and say he’s already turned us down
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Weiss bolted back to college again. He wasnt on our radar because he wasnt an available coach. KC fell apart when he left too. Todd Haley is a piss poor coach because his ego is more important than his team. Just look at KC after Weiss took off. They were embarrassed 2 weeks in a row at home. KC is coming back down to earth in a big way this year.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Mistic, having the final say on personnel is one thing, wasting a number one overall pick on a kicker is another.
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Davis is the owner, he has the resume and a proven track record for judging talent. Im glad to have him picking players for my team. he is the reason we dont have to look at sadkowski any longer.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Davis is the owner, he has the resume and a proven track record for judging talent. Im glad to have him picking players for my team. he is the reason we dont have to look at sadkowski any longer.
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Hasn’t developed a QB in 43 years.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
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Plug David Carr in with those 49ers and he’s a Pro Bowler. The 49ers made Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac and Jeff Garcia look like world beaters. Remember Steve Young in Tampa? Joe Gibbs won three SBs with three different QBs. Bill Parcells did it with two with the Giants. It always has and always will be about the system and the supporting cast.
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Art monk went to the hof, and he had put up with shroeder and rypien
July 11th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Tim brown was still tim brown no matter who the qb was
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who was Tim Brown in 1992?
who was Tim Brown in 2003
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RR,
Dont make me name all the crap qbs the touch down tim played with, and he is one of the greatest wrs of all time.
Talent will always show itself at the wr position.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
No excuse for DHB…He wasnt worth the 7th then, still not worth the 7th now…Will he improve we will see however, typically you get what you pay for, in this case he is what he is….A million dollar decoy…
July 11th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Weiss bolted back to college again. He wasnt on our radar because he wasnt an available coach. KC fell apart when he left too. Todd Haley is a piss poor coach because his ego is more important than his team. Just look at KC after Weiss took off. They were embarrassed 2 weeks in a row at home. KC is coming back down to earth in a big way this year.
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I was on record last year before saying they had the best coaching in the AFC west…Weiss leaving is huge, as he turned castle around. him leaving is huge, his problem was he could not get along with haley…
July 11th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
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steve smith has had crap at qb for most of his career, he still has produced. What about keyshawn johnson with the jets. Sterling sharp, had don makowski, and anthony dilweg.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
imagine if Jerry Rice had Alex Smith or David Carr as his QB’s instead of Joe Montana & Steve Young
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Plug David Carr in with those 49ers and he’s a Pro Bowler. The 49ers made Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac and Jeff Garcia look like world beaters. Remember Steve Young in Tampa? Joe Gibbs won three SBs with three different QBs. Bill Parcells did it with two with the Giants. It always has and always will be about the system and the supporting cast.
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Art monk went to the hof, and he had put up with shroeder and rypien
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No one will ever convince me that DHB’s issues are QB related. To nobody’s surprise, he’s flat out sucked his first two years in the league. It cost JR his job in my opinion. I don’t think Al will let him cost JC his. He’s going to sign someone.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
It just wouldn’t be a Monday if Krappy the Troll wasn’t back in the blog repeating his nonsense from last week.
Krappy, when are you going to start your usual blog trolling with a few political articles?
Kane & Associates really has no idea what a dedicated, focused employee they have on their hands!
July 11th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Mistic, you said that Davis only meddles when coaches know what they’re doing. That’s B.S. Gruden perfectly knew what he was doing. He’s our best coach since Tom Flores, as far as the numbers are concerned. Davis still drafts a kicker overall in the first round, who turned out to be a bust anyway because a first round kicker is only worth it if he’s a 1000 freakin % from anywhere short of the 60 yard mark! Clearly it was Davis the meddler who didn’t know what he was doing, Mistic.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Mistic, you said Davis only meddles when coaches don’t know what they’re doing. That is a LIE. Davis meddled with Gruden, big time. Drafting a kicker overall in the first round against the coach’s wishes is as meddlesome as it gets. You lied about Davis not meddling if coaches know what they’re doing. You lied, you lied, you lied. That’s my point.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Yeah… DHB is the reason Jamarcus held out for an absurd contract to the detriment of his team too… and the reason jamarcus was overweight, out of shape, lazy, fell asleep in meetings, and had an all around horrible attitude. Yep. We cut the wrong guy last May.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Everyone needs to relax on DHB…It was a bad pick point blank…Will he turn out to be a decent WR remains to be seen…He better step his game up otherwise he will be sitting the pine…
DMOORE is the truth, he will be getting some snaps…
July 11th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
And you can say Kiffin didn’t know what he was doing, but remember that Davis meddled with Kiffin and drafted JaMarcus Russell, who’s is arguably the biggest bust in NFL history. Mistic, Davis f’n meddles with everyone, INCLUDING HUE. Davis isn’t giving Hue any more rope than he gave Kiffin. Get out of denial.
July 11th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
“Blargh”
July 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Sadkowski raider,
Picking personnel is not meddling. Can anyone find any quote where gruden accused Davis of meddling with schemes or offensive philosophy. Did issue edicts or mandates? No.
Davis and Gruden disagreed on personnel, that is all. gruden was free to coach the team however he saw fit.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Also take into account that we have 4 new starters on the O-Line. Assuming that these youngsters will step in right away and prove to be better in pass protection than Cable’s vets is a dangerous assumption imo
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I agree, which is why we should be active in FA, and keep some of our own OL guys for depth at the very least…
July 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Blah Blah Blah
Jerry, take off the rest of July, close down this cesspool.
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Cornfucious think that funny.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I am sure coach Jackson and the NAION has a plan, and a lot of what we speculate on will be answered soon…
July 11th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Bcz24 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Yeah… DHB is the reason Jamarcus held out for an absurd contract to the detriment of his team too… and the reason jamarcus was overweight, out of shape, lazy, fell asleep in meetings, and had an all around horrible attitude. Yep. We cut the wrong guy last May.
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Why the hell should the #1 overall pick, a QB, have to hold out? There’s probably a precedent, but I can’t think of one. Back up the Brinks truck and get his ass to camp just like the Lions and Matthew Stafford, the Rams and Sam Bradford and even the Falcons and Matt Ryan. The contract debacle is 200% on Al! And do you think JR is the only QB in history to fall asleep in a few meetings, which he ALLEGEDLY did? I’d bet you guys like Stabler and Favre did that on a regular basis. JR could have stayed awake for all the meetings in the world. Still doesn’t change the fact that he had a schitty supporting cast and coaching staff. There isn’t a QB in the history of the league that could have won here in 2009.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RRS, just to get your up to speed, Mistic said that Davis only meddles when coaches don’t know what they’re doing. I was responding to that.
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Cornfucious say Al Davis meddle with coach all the time, that why he hire coaches who don’t know what to do. But he old man now, that why he hire HueJack.
Cornfucious can’t wait til locksown over.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
UDFA we should get DT Ian Williams…
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/6/17/2223943/looking-for-bargains-ufda-defensive-tackles-St-Louis-Rams-Barry-Cofield-UDFA
July 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
There isnt a team in the NFL the Jamarshmallows fat lazy junkie ass could have won with either.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
RaiderDebo, Cornfucious say #1 pick JaMarcus Russell hold out for money because agent like to rear end Al Davis. That why Al Davis go cheap on Nnamdi because rear end don’t feel good. Cornfucious also think JR fall sleep at meeting because he purple drank.
Cornfucious very very excited about locksown coming to an end and football to begin. Cornfucious promise to leave and never come back when locksown over.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
One QB developed in the history of the franchise.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
LMAO…
July 11th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
bcz24 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
There isnt a team in the NFL the Jamarshmallows fat lazy junkie ass could have won with either.
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Funny to hear some folk think JaMarcuss failure because supporting cast is just big fat excuse. Also purple drank make him sleep at meeting. Cornfucious think all that money make him fat and lazy. Al Davis take shaft hard in rear on that one, so I feel sorry for Al Davis cause shaft must have hurt rear end bad.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Mistic, there’s a difference between having the final say on personnel and wasting a number one pick on a kicker. I’m sure Gruden had several suggestions for that number one pick, none of them being Janikowski. Al told him to pound sand. That’s meddling.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Cornfucious ask KoolKell if Raider team had a QB coach when Stabler was QB or did Stabler develope his own self at QB? Cornfucious know players use to be smart in old days but now need coaches to call plays and tell them when to go wee wee.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Mistic, there’s a difference between having the final say on personnel and wasting a number one pick on a kicker. I’m sure Gruden had several suggestions for that number one pick, none of them being Janikowski. Al told him to pound sand. That’s meddling.
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Bra i know this is a bitter pill for you to swallow, but it is the truth. Gruden took the job knowing that davis would make the final call on personnel, every raider coach knows that before they take the gig. Doesnt matter if gruden wanted jesus christ as the first pick Al makes the choice.
That isnt meddling, if anything its gruden that could be termed the meddler in this instance, because he tried to meddle in personnel.
davis phiolosophy is simple, i pick’em you coach’em. end of story
July 11th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Mistic, there’s a difference between having the final say on personnel and wasting a number one pick on a kicker. I’m sure Gruden had several suggestions for that number one pick, none of them being Janikowski. Al told him to pound sand. That’s meddling.
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By the way Gruden did also get plenty of his guys on the teams he coached here, gannon, garner tui for examples.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Cornfucious agree Plaxico is not ready to play football or is in football shape but find it hard to imagine why he could be a Raider. Cornfucious agree Ocho is a me-man and don’t help team and Cornfucious also agree T.O. stink. Al Davis goin home grown
this year and Raiders will be good when locksown over.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Cornfucious like Ford, DHB, Chillens, Zach Miller and ground game. Al Davis won’t meddle anymore cause he got HueJack.
Cornfucious very happy locksown almost done.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
One QB developed in the history of the franchise.
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This isnt that big of a deal really. There are plenty of examples of qbs that win after being traded or signing as free agents. Ill name some superbowl winners, you ask if they were “developed” by the team that they led to sb wins
Kurt warner, drew brees, steve young, trent dilfer, doug williams
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Yes, Mistic, I agree. Gruden took the job knowing Davis would MEDDLE, no matter how much Gruden knew what he was doing. You said that Davis won’t meddle as long as the coach knows what he’s doing. You’re a liar.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Krappy is like an old record player with a skipping needle.
Pretty hilarious, old dude! Guess its a pretty slow day at the office, huh? Must be with no listings.
Dudes I just poured my first low cal daiquiri of the day and pounded a Men’s Health turkey burger from Carl’s Jr for my abs. I’m going to concentrate on further ripping my upper body this week so I’ll look dope on the Reggae Party Boat.
I can already bench press 2 of my ladies at the same time for 25 reps.
BIGGIE SMALLS IN THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE
July 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
And Davis is already meddling with Hue, too. By forcing him to start Campbell. Even if Hue has complete control of offensive playcalling, by being saddled with Campbell, he has to run a vertical type offense. Campbell’s release is too slow for any kind of WCO offense. It’s one thing to have final say over personnel. But when you force players in key positions, that’s as meddlesome as it gets. There is no way Hue Jackson wanted Jason Campbell over Gradkowski.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
One QB developed in the history of the franchise.
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This isnt that big of a deal really.
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Flat out pathetic, that someone would ever say such a thing.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Watched a few manny p fights over the weekend. This dude is a steroid using cheater. Mayweather is going to kill this dude if they ever fight. manny doesnt do well with guys that move and counter punch. mayweather is the best in the world at that very tactic
July 11th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
pual willaims should retire, and david haye needs a new trainer
July 11th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Yes, Mistic, I agree. Gruden took the job knowing Davis would MEDDLE, no matter how much Gruden knew what he was doing. You said that Davis won’t meddle as long as the coach knows what he’s doing. You’re a liar.
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Cornfucious say no need to worry Al Davis to old to meddle anymore. Nobody to push his orders around will be listen to. He also forgetful. Hererra stink so no one listen to him. And HueJack know what he is doing.
So it not a matter of Al Davis being meddle man or not, he to old and HueJack smart. HueJack will be the new captain when Al Davis retire.
Locksown so close to being over Cornfucious can smell it, except worry just a little that lawyers drag it out so they can shake nfl and owners down for more money. Just like JaMarcuss agent rear end Al Davis, Cornfucious worry that what lawyers try and do to ownwers and nfl, shaft them up the rear for more money.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Yes, Mistic, I agree. Gruden took the job knowing Davis would MEDDLE, no matter how much Gruden knew what he was doing. You said that Davis won’t meddle as long as the coach knows what he’s doing. You’re a liar.
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Give it a rest scabkowski,
Davis is the gm, his job is to pick players. All gms’ pick players, so does that make all gms’ meddlers?
July 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Exactly how do you guys know we have 4 new starters on the line? I would just like to know how you guys know this because I haven’t heard it anywhere but in here.
As far as I’ve heard no positions on that line have been decided but all I ever read in here is what the line will be as if you actually know.
People talk about our depth or lack there of as if they know what FA’S We’ll get and who we’ll keep it’s amazing how insightful you guys are.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
And Davis is already meddling with Hue, too. By forcing him to start Campbell. Even if Hue has complete control of offensive playcalling, by being saddled with Campbell, he has to run a vertical type offense. Campbell’s release is too slow for any kind of WCO offense. It’s one thing to have final say over personnel. But when you force players in key positions, that’s as meddlesome as it gets. There is no way Hue Jackson wanted Jason Campbell over Gradkowski.
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HueJack do what he want when season start because Al Davis become to old and forgetful and HueJack already know this and he not worry because Al Davis forget a lot now, and HueJack can give Hererra the bird and middle finger when he want to. It be HueJack ship now and season begin and Al Davis forget who he use to be.
Locksown almost over.
July 11th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Mistic
People like you spend your whole lives defending Al Davis’ decisions.
Do you give a schit about the team and it’s performance, At ALL?
July 11th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Misterbeechum, is it true all your rent a women rug munchers really have hairy armpits? If you have so much money you need to have them shave those armpits so they don’t scare the children around the pool. Just sayin…
July 11th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
And Davis is already meddling with Hue, too. By forcing him to start Campbell. Even if Hue has complete control of offensive playcalling, by being saddled with Campbell, he has to run a vertical type offense. Campbell’s release is too slow for any kind of WCO offense. It’s one thing to have final say over personnel. But when you force players in key positions, that’s as meddlesome as it gets. There is no way Hue Jackson wanted Jason Campbell over Gradkowski.
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This is almost too ridiculous to respond too.
1) cable was the head coach he clearly wanted scabs even when it was beyond apparent that scabs stunk. Scabs would have continued to play but he was too brittle. He was hurt and never recovered, that has nothing to do with davis.
2.)Hu jack runs the vertical offense because that is his offensive prefference. This is why davis hired him to run the offense last year. they share the same philosophy.
3.) Hu jack will start cambell because he is the best qb on the team. There is no other reason.
4.) Scabs will be 4th string back up on the practice squad for the montreal alouets, because he sucks.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Mistic
People like you spend your whole lives defending Al Davis’ decisions.
Do you give a schit about the team and it’s performance, At ALL?
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Not sure how you got this from my post see below ]
“This isnt that big of a deal really. There are plenty of examples of qbs that win after being traded or signing as free agents. Ill name some superbowl winners, you ask if they were “developed” by the team that they led to sb wins
Kurt warner, drew brees, steve young, trent dilfer, doug williams”
July 11th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
By and large, I blame the players.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
One QB developed in the history of the franchise.
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This isnt that big of a deal really.
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Flat out pathetic!
July 11th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Most GM’s listen to their coaches when it comes to key positions. Davis told Gruden to talk to the hand when it came to Janikowski. You do realize that the only way a kicker is worth a first round pick is if he’s at least 100% career from everywhere short of 60 yards?
July 11th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Mistic1 you guys spend a ton of time arguing with that Moron when that is all he’s here for. half the stuff he says he doesn’t believe, he says it to get into an argument. Why do you think he is the only one in here who says the ignorant stuff he says. There are a ton of people who aren’t MR Davis fans but he is the only who goes way over the top with his propaganda.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Well I’ll take that back there is someone else who match’s him point for point we shall call them the bopsy twins.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Jano blew us a playoff birth last year. He makes the chip shot in Arizona, we’re 9-7, division champs, playoff bound.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
I know Preistt but its just so much fun whooping his a$$ in here everyday, i just cant help myself
July 11th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
I blame the players, the owners, the nfl, the nflpa, the fans, the television and cable companies, the automobile industry, Congress, medi-care, MLB, A-Rod, and every other imaginable reason for the lock-out.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Mistic, the bottom line is, with Campbell in the lineup, Hue is limited as far as playcalling goes. Campbell has such a slow release that all he can run are vertical type plays and running plays. You let a defense know that’s all you’re coming at the with? Forget it. Hue’s hands are tied as long as Al’s forcing Campbell on him .
July 11th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Confucious welcome to my collection of worshiping minions, Brian the Genital can show you around.
Bros I finished the 1st half of my workout and celebrated with sweet make out session on the couch with a horny flight attendant from Quantas. Things really are hotter down under, if you know what I mean.
Now I’m going to slather on some Volcanic Tan #2 and catch some rays by the pool. Pretty sure my freshly toned delts will get some major babe attention.
ROUGH RIDERS UP IN HERE, Y’ALL
July 11th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
I blame the owners. They remove the locks, and its over.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
NFL owners,
Tear down this wall!
July 11th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
UDFA we should get DT Ian Williams…
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/6/17/2223943/looking-for-bargains-ufda-defensive-tackles-St-Louis-Rams-Barry-Cofield-UDFA
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Damn straight.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Most GM’s listen to their coaches when it comes to key positions. Davis told Gruden to talk to the hand when it came to Janikowski. You do realize that the only way a kicker is worth a first round pick is if he’s at least 100% career from everywhere short of 60 yards?
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Sure coaches have input, so did gruden. At the time gruden hadnt won jack, so why would he have any real clout. Al makes the final call. by the way this is not unique to oakland.
I remember 2 time superbowl winning head coach beefing with the gm when they vetoed his personnel suggestions as well. he eventually left the team because of it.
At the time gruden hadnt won jack, so why shuld he get that kind of clout
July 11th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Mistic & Boootlicking Society
People like you spend your whole lives defending Al Davis’ decisions.
Do you give a schit about the team and it’s performance, At ALL?
July 11th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Hey TJ, want to tell us more about how Terrelle Pryor is a superstar hybrid mix of Rothlisberger and Vick?
That was almost as hilarious as Krappy carrying on for over a week about how Al can’t develop a QB.
Two sad old losers wallowing in misery on a football blog. So awesome.
I’d invite you dweebs out to get a little sun on my Reggae Party Boat, but I don’t think I have a big enough supply of shrimp for you guys to serve.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Gruden did not have enough input. When your GM is forcing a kicker in the first round over your draft prospect, whatever control you have is moot. …If you’re going to be overwritten like that.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Mistic, the bottom line is, with Campbell in the lineup, Hue is limited as far as playcalling goes. Campbell has such a slow release that all he can run are vertical type plays and running plays. You let a defense know that’s all you’re coming at the with? Forget it. Hue’s hands are tied as long as Al’s forcing Campbell on him .
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Scabkowski chew on this
16 507 comp 327 att 64.5 %
3618 yds 20td 86.4 qb rating
Jason Campbell 2010 with washington. Just so you know it was jim zorns offense west coast offense.
JC can run any offense, he is especially suited for the vertical game
got anything else
July 11th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Mistic & Boootlicking Society
People like you spend your whole lives defending Al Davis’ decisions.
Do you give a schit about the team and it’s performance, At ALL?
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Im struggling to see how me saying that you can win without a home grown qb makes me bootlicker
July 11th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
To assert that developing QB’s in not important, is the most outrageous bootlicking I’ve ever seen here.
You say such gargage simply to defend Al Davis inability to do so, pathetic.
One homegrown QB in the history of the franchise, is no big deal? pathetic.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
If JC and Zorn were so good in washington, Mistic, why isn’t Campbell still in Washington?
July 11th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
JC can run any offense, he is especially suited for the vertical game
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courtesy of Mistic. waiting on JFB’s reply
and where the crap did AIG run off to?
July 11th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
want to tell us more about how Terrelle Pryor is a superstar hybrid mix of Rothlisberger and Vick?
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I want us to draft Pryor, but not because I think he’ll be anything like Mike Vick or Big Ben. I’ve never seen any media “experts” make those comparisons either.
We gotta have somebody to back up JCamp and groom to play QB for the future. Kyle Boller obviously isn’t that guy. Pryor has loads of talent, he just needs development. If you think Hue Jackson & Al Saunders can put together an effective gameplan and mentor a QB, then nows the time to get one. This is Camp’s contract year
July 11th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
All the crybabies came out today.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Krappy, why don’t you waddle your fat rear end down to Raider Headquarters in Alameda to tell Al how disgusted you are?
Better than whining and crying like a little girl on a blog all day about it.
Loser.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
why don’t you waddle your fat rear end down to Raider Headquarters in Alameda to tell Al how disgusted you are?
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That would take some serious stones. It would earn Kell a lot of respect around here (not that he’s asking for it) but I doubt he’d make it past John Hererra
July 11th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RR, you’ve never seen any media “expert” make that prediction because none of them are moronic enough to say something that retarded.
It was the resident blog fool TJ who said that over the weekend. Kinda surprised actually he didn’t include Tom Brady and Johnny Unitas in the mix.
Sometimes I wonder if TJ and Krappy each had a square hole and 2 square blocks if they’d be able to make them fit.
July 11th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
why isn’t Campbell still in Washington?
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don’t forget that nobody else wanted him via trade.
If Bruce Allen & Shanny would trade the guy to Al Davis in ‘10 for a conditional 4th rounder in ‘12 they are pretty certain he stinks and had no other offers on the table
I bet the Bills could have got him for a 2013 3rd rounder, LOL
July 11th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Kinda surprised actually he didn’t include Tom Brady and Johnny Unitas in the mix.
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Beeecham,
He would never say that. He thinks we already have those dudes on the roster (Camp & Boller)
July 11th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Krappy could just drive his shiny red corvette – er, hyundai – into the parking lot and see what happens.
I’m sure if Herrera confronted him he’d instantly wet himself and run home crying to his wife and her bowl cut, begging for an early allowance.
Either way, it’s better to try then spend all day and night whining like a girl on a football blog.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RR, trying to ingriate yourself with Dumb Beech is pretty cowardly.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Haha! Mistic split as soon as I asked him why Campbell’s not in washington anymore.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
If JC and Zorn were so good in washington, Mistic, why isn’t Campbell still in Washington?
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Who said zorn was any good? he stinks he was fired and wont be a head coach ever again. Jc on the other hand has earned the starting spot for your oakland raiders, & is the unquestioned leader with the full support of the entire organization.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Krappy, cowardly is crying all day on a football blog instead of going to confront Al in person.
Watch, now we’re going to hear all about how the old goat has been to Copenhagen, like its some kind of medal of bravery.
Sad, Krappy, really sad!
July 11th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
why isn’t Campbell still in Washington?
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don’t forget that nobody else wanted him via trade.
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This is speculation, only his agent and the parties involved know who was or wasnt interested. but why let reason get in the way
July 11th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
To assert that developing QB’s in not important, is the most outrageous bootlicking I’ve ever seen here.
You say such gargage simply to defend Al Davis inability to do so, pathetic.
One homegrown QB in the history of the franchise, is no big deal? pathetic.
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KK, i ddint say it wasnt important. I said the fact that it hasnt happened isnt a big deal.
1.) lots of qbs are drafted and fail for lots of teams
2.) you can win the superbowl without a home grown qb
3.) switch to decaf
July 11th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I’m pretty sure they don’t make decaf Metamucil.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Mistic, why didn’t Washington hang on to Campbell and give him a new OC? Surely if Campbell is a talent, Washington’s not blaming him.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
KK, i ddint say it wasnt important. I said the fact that it hasnt happened isnt a big deal.
1.) lots of qbs are drafted and fail for lots of teams
2.) you can win the superbowl without a home grown qb
3.) switch to decaf
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When’s the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl, dumbass?
July 11th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Beecham, when you’re 69ing one of your masculine looking hookers while listening to Culture Club, make sure you don’t wind up with pork and beans in your mouth.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
How many time in Raider History have the Raiders had good QB play, dumbass?
July 11th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
LaMonica, Stabler, Plunkett, Gannon. That’s it. Mistic thinks Campbell’s better than all of them.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
You guys want a laugh? Ask Mistic who’s better between Campbell and Gannon.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
KK, i ddint say it wasnt important. I said the fact that it hasnt happened isnt a big deal.
1.) lots of qbs are drafted and fail for lots of teams
2.) you can win the superbowl without a home grown qb
3.) switch to decaf
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When’s the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl, dumbass?
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Thats easy plunkett, and guess what he wasnt home grown. thanks for playing
July 11th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
this is also easy, jc and gannon, they arent home grown either
July 11th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
65.RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
And Davis is already meddling with Hue, too. By forcing him to start Campbell. Even if Hue has complete control of offensive playcalling, by being saddled with Campbell, he has to run a vertical type offense. Campbell’s release is too slow for any kind of WCO offense. It’s one thing to have final say over personnel. But when you force players in key positions, that’s as meddlesome as it gets. There is no way Hue Jackson wanted Jason Campbell over Gradkowski.
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AD all but said Bruce is gone. Would you rather start Boller? Maybe Charlie could step in. Soup is gonna have to make it happen this year because the Raiders don’t have anyone else!!! I don’t think Al is forcing Hjack to start him, there is no other choice.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Got-ta agree with the Kool on this one: Raiders to dependent on FA or trades for quaterbacks and its a crap shoot not in your favor. It worked with Plunkett and almost with Gannon but that is out of how many QBs’ since Stabler? It could of worked with Gannon but fate or irony if you will effed that one up, derailed it so bad the collateral damage was to be felt for the next eight years and counting. Talk about getting corn-holed up the rear, my gosh. A ram eight years long up the bung-hole.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Mistic, why didn’t Washington hang on to Campbell and give him a new OC?
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because Snyder and sham a han are idiots
July 11th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
The Talking Lamp Post likes Gradkowski but feels the man is much to fragile to have any success in the NFL. Oh sure he’s had a nice stint here and there, but can he survive the beating these guys take. Don’t think so.
Now one can argue in his favor that with the new nfl pussification rules a quarterback like Gradkowski may be able to survive the new season. So who knows, but good luck to ya where ever you may land.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Krappy always goes mute when his cowardice gets called out by me. The old goof can’t run away to the gym/barbershop any quicker.
Sad, sad old fool. But highly entertaining!
Must be a Kelly Family trait – same thing happens when I slap around his grandson Brian the Genital.
Just put on a little Falco while my ladies and I grub down on this 2 ft. Togo’s sub. Extra pickles, if you know what I mean.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I thought Beeech was on a Reggae party boat, now he’s at Togo’s? Hmmmmmmmmm, ok
July 11th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Raiders For Life, the best way to deal with a Troll is to ingore them.
He’s been dying for my attention all day.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Hey beechman you dumb bastard no on ecmade the assertion that Pryor was some superstar I said he was a cross between Mike Vick and Ben athletically. but of course some dodo was going to think what you thought and it was you…………get a clue freak!!
July 11th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
I know KK, I couldn’t help it. If I could afford to be on a party boat….I think I’d rather go eat at a fine steak house or something!!! Togo’s? Really?
July 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
RFL, my party boats don’t leave until 7pm to take advantage of the sunset and sweet lighted coastline.
Plus my babes prefer to party serious when the sun goes down, just like the good folks of Jamaica.
And Togos was delivered to my penthouse by my Krappy-butler look a like along with 3lbs of Cool Ranch Doritos and a cherry cobbler from Marie Calendars.
btw – the Krappy look alike is very authentic except his wife gets her ‘do fixed at Fantastic Sams instead of a pair of garden shears and a salad bowl.
July 11th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Jano blew us a playoff birth last year. He makes the chip shot in Arizona, we’re 9-7, division champs, playoff bound.
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This prolly will go down as the most dumbest commet you can ever say. MR how sad are you to stoop so low and lie to this extent?
KC went 10-6…..how exactly does 9-7 win the divison? 9-7 doesnt even get you in the playoffs in the AFC! Jets and Ravens were lowest seeds and were 12-4 you knucklehead!
July 11th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Boy George Beecher over here is in rare form today lol. …..he cant stop going deep into detail about his “Cruisin” tales
July 11th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I thought Beeech was on a Reggae party boat, now he’s at Togo’s? Hmmmmmmmmm, ok
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LMAO….we’re all laughing at him
July 11th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RFL, getting lectured by Krappy is about as low as you can get on the blog.
Letting the old fool – The King of the Trolls – admonish you for speaking out of turn is pretty embarrassing, don’t you think?
Keep in mind that Troll Krappy will do anything to pull you into his web of idiocy & cowardice.
WORD WIZZLE HOLLA DIZZLE
July 11th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Ah, it’s my favorite humble follower, Brian the Genital! Right on cue.
I guess his grandpa Krappy put out the official Kelly Family mayday signal – the white flag – and Brian scurried to his side!
I love the family unity! Party on, Kellys!
July 11th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
132.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Jano blew us a playoff birth last year. He makes the chip shot in Arizona, we’re 9-7, division champs, playoff bound.
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This prolly will go down as the most dumbest commet you can ever say. MR how sad are you to stoop so low and lie to this extent?
KC went 10-6…..how exactly does 9-7 win the divison? 9-7 doesnt even get you in the playoffs in the AFC! Jets and Ravens were lowest seeds and were 12-4 you knucklehead!
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Not to mention his predictions on how many games we would win last year, and how bad we would be…Turncoat…
July 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@ 132
Good point Bauce. That loss doesn’t seem so painfull anymore.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
If i was predicting the Raiders demise, and saying they would be lousy and only win 4 games I would not even utter the word playoffs…
Kinda makes you look like a hypocrite…
July 11th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Ah, it’s my favorite humble follower, Brian the Genital! Right on cue.
I guess his grandpa Krappy put out the official Kelly Family mayday signal – the white flag – and Brian scurried to his side!
I love the family unity! Party on, Kellys!
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Boy George Beecher you fail at comedy and you have zero to little knowledge about football….what is your point in living?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
132.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Jano blew us a playoff birth last year. He makes the chip shot in Arizona, we’re 9-7, division champs, playoff bound.
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This prolly will go down as the most dumbest commet you can ever say. MR how sad are you to stoop so low and lie to this extent?
KC went 10-6…..how exactly does 9-7 win the divison? 9-7 doesnt even get you in the playoffs in the AFC! Jets and Ravens were lowest seeds and were 12-4 you knucklehead!
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Not to mention his predictions on how many games we would win last year, and how bad we would be…Turncoat…
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To be a turncoat one must have been on your side before hand……MR has never been on our side
July 11th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
If i was predicting the Raiders demise, and saying they would be lousy and only win 4 games I would not even utter the word playoffs…
Kinda makes you look like a hypocrite…
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Its his motto. He has been caught lying repeatedly and flip flopping all day long. It is his life’s work
July 11th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@ 132
Good point Bauce. That loss doesn’t seem so painfull anymore.
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Man no way were we gonna win that game. Had no biz sitting JC so soon into the season. Panic move that backfired in consecutive weeks. That aced our season. A 16 game season can best be described in 4’s. Starting 1-3 is a very tall order. But I liked the way guys fought regardless
July 11th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Hey beechman you dumb bastard no on ecmade the assertion that Pryor was some superstar I said he was a cross between Mike Vick and Ben athletically. but of course some dodo was going to think what you thought and it was you…………get a clue freak!!
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you’re asking alot
July 11th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Brian the Genital, does your mommy ever give you advice about not getting bullied? I can totally see the two of you bonding together over an episode of Glee.
Man, a day is just not complete until I get to administer punishment to Brian and Krappy! Holla back, Big Qiz.
Gotta test out this brand new tanning bed my ladies just bought from Barney’s, say whaaaat
July 11th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Cornfucious want to know if misterbeechum feed his ladies at Togo’s is because they to hairy to get in a fine steak house? They feet to hairy or to smelly to get in fine steak house? When they on party boat do you throw then in water with bar of soap like any genleman would and make them get clean? Or do you like them stank? Just askin…
July 11th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Bauce It certainly appears so…
July 11th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Brian the Genital, does your mommy ever give you advice about not getting bullied? I can totally see the two of you bonding together over an episode of Glee.
Man, a day is just not complete until I get to administer punishment to Brian and Krappy! Holla back, Big Qiz.
Gotta test out this brand new tanning bed my ladies just bought from Barney’s, say whaaaat
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Beecher you can’t lay your mommy issues on me little fella. I just merely point out the fraud you are. Your story just doesnt match and you already been caught lying and bragging about “reach arounds”. What more really needs to be said
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
July 11th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Cornfucious new a man that had four hairy ladies and never allowed them to bathe beacuse he like them stank, and he make them do his bidding. He would then take them for fine dinner at fast food. This was somewhere in east sac. Cornfucious now wonder if this man he met misterbeechum.
When locksown over, Cornfucious leave and never return. Locksown over make Cornfucious very very very happy.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Priesttj Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Bauce It certainly appears so…
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I mean BHP……look bruh….ya been here since the time I’ve started coming on in April of 08 3 certain characters on here I’ve diced slice and theyve even ran like mice away from me when its time to man up. Look at how crazy I’ve turned MR,Kell and Beecher over that three year span lol. They barely talk football but all posts are nothing but that of a vendetta. Its called OWNING someone to the highest degree lol
July 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Posters, FYI:
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
July 11th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I gotta admit, I was all for sitting JC and letting Grads take over. Kinda like in MLB when a pitcher isn’t performing you pull him. But you are right, that backfired and became the joke of the NFL. Soup should do fine this year without the drama….Now, can we get a legit backup?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
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I’m not even joking…..like I always say, look at the body of work. I’m obviously a cold piece at times on here but my loyalty to the Raiders franchise is never in question. MR makes his entire campaign about Al Davis and hating his own people….crazy isnt it?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
149.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
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Seriously?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
155.KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
149.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
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Seriously?
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Shts funny to me so what??? You upset with him calling out ya boy for what he is???
Really?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Wow, I easily manipulated Confucious and Brian the Genital into meltdown mode! That was almost too easy, but I have to admit I still enjoyed it.
Love my obedient followers.
TJ, I’m just starting to realize you’re probably a member of the Kelly Family. Sorry I missed it, old timer, won’t happen again!
Going to put on a little of my homeboy MJ’s The Wall for my late afternoon massage.
AROMATHERAPHY UP IN HERE
July 11th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Cornfucious also remember this man he met with four hairy and stank ladies live under freeway overpass and talk about boat he saving to buy, promising the ladies if they could make money for him at his bidding he would take them to an island in the sunset. But everytime time his stank ladies make him money, they need crack so he has to buy them crack and never have money. Was it misterbeechum?
When locksown over, I be very very very happy but right now sad because of locksown.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I gotta admit, I was all for sitting JC and letting Grads take over. Kinda like in MLB when a pitcher isn’t performing you pull him. But you are right, that backfired and became the joke of the NFL. Soup should do fine this year without the drama….Now, can we get a legit backup?
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I wasnt mad at Bruce for coming thru in the pinch in the 2nd half. Gotta win and JC wasnt playing well. But that was too early to sit a guy trying to bring an an offense alive that hasnt been since 05. Then to do the Miami game fiasco? 3 losses that hurt us from making the playoffs. The Raiders were obviously the best team inthe AFC West. I would have loved another shot at Pittsburgh or Indy.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Cornfucious cant wait for locksown to be over.
misterbeechum ladies are stank because a friend of mine just saw him at togos and said they hairy, they stank, and they go back to overpass by freeway.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Master Beeecham Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Wow, I easily manipulated Confucious and Brian the Genital into meltdown mode! That was almost too easy, but I have to admit I still enjoyed it.
Love my obedient followers.
TJ, I’m just starting to realize you’re probably a member of the Kelly Family. Sorry I missed it, old timer, won’t happen again!
Going to put on a little of my homeboy MJ’s The Wall for my late afternoon massage.
AROMATHERAPHY UP IN HERE
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Haha another retarded statement from the blog’s Rain Man. Meltdown? Never I’m solid as a rock buddy while you are a pack of hostess donuts.
No one cares if you are about to get on your little boy PJ’s…..I guess that’s what those pool(bathtub) parties with toys(rubber ducky) are really about
July 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Everybody knows cable and grads loused it up, they stunk it up and torpedoed are season. cable let his personal agenda get in the way of the team goals.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Cornfucious say his friend just call and say he in mood for hairy stank so he follow misterbeechum and his ladies to uner freeway overpass to get some cheap stank.
When nfl locksown over Cornfucious be a happy happy fellow.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
155.KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
149.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
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Seriously?
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Shts funny to me so what??? You upset with him calling out ya boy for what he is???
Really?
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No im calling him out….I wasnt even trying to be funny….but I guess it goes to compliment my exemplary comedy skills.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Beecher please dont bother with another lame comeback of your Six Degrees of Separation episodes…..we arent interested….quit trying to “recruit”…..ok Officer Dangle?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Everybody knows cable and grads loused it up, they stunk it up and torpedoed are season. cable let his personal agenda get in the way of the team goals.
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hue was in on that too tho….Hue deserves some flack
July 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
162.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
cable let his personal agenda get in the way of the team goals.
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You mean like Al Davis?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
813.RAIDER Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Overheard from a recent owners’ meeting:
“They ought to be happy. They used to be in shackles” (laughs roaring throughout the room)
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Anyone dare ask what “John Brown” meant by the above statement???
July 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell you like cleaning up and defending your boy why dont you take a crack at it “Bruh”…
July 11th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
149.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
It is his life’s work
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ROFLMBAO…..
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Seriously?
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I wonder what happens when Kell tries to get in the mood with white wifey and bring them old sparks back…..when she asked for him to nibble on her ear like back in the day does he get up and leave the room only to return with his fake teeth?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Confucious, football is an addiction for fans. The NFL, the owners and players all know this. They could drag this crap on for years and know that the fans will all come running back to support thier teams.
I hope it ends soon and wish that I was as optimistic as you are.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
162.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
cable let his personal agenda get in the way of the team goals.
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You mean like Al Davis?
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Al Davis does what the fk he wants. He is the owner of the Raiders…Cable was an employee. see difference you old fk?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Everybody knows cable and grads loused it up, they stunk it up and torpedoed are season. cable let his personal agenda get in the way of the team goals.
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hue was in on that too tho….Hue deserves some flack
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i dont buy it. Hu jack said he made the call fr the swicth vs the lambs. But starting grads after the win streak, that was barney rubbles doing. Im speculating, but i bet one of the reasons hu jack and cable stopped seeing eye to eye was because cable kept forcing grads down everyone’s throat.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation.
Not Raider fans at all, sycophants.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation.
Not Raider fans at all, sycophants.
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just for the sake of being clear, when i state that you dont need a home grown qb to win, that makes me a boot licker?
wow…some people
July 11th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation.
Not Raider fans at all, sycophants.
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Dont worry Kell…..at some point you will understand all about a boot
July 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
169.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell you like cleaning up and defending your boy why dont you take a crack at it “Bruh”…
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Bootlicker, take a crack at this, how in the hell could the Raiders only have developed ONE QB in their history?
July 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation.
Not Raider fans at all, sycophants.
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not a fan
July 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Bauce, I’ve been meaning to ask you..why all the hate on Nnamdi? Just wondering.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
169.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell you like cleaning up and defending your boy why dont you take a crack at it “Bruh”…
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Bootlicker, take a crack at this, how in the hell could the Raiders only have developed ONE QB in their history?
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You believe in the democratic party and think paying income taxes is legit….you also support bigger govt….youre worse than a bootlicker….youre tonguing toe jam
July 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
179.Raiders for life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Bauce, I’ve been meaning to ask you..why all the hate on Nnamdi? Just wondering.
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Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation
July 11th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Bauce, I’ve been meaning to ask you..why all the hate on Nnamdi? Just wondering.
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not hate….I think he is a good player….but if someone is gonna pay him 19 million it cant be us. I dont see a great CB to be honest. Gamechanging plays just aint there enough
July 11th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
179.Raiders for life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Bauce, I’ve been meaning to ask you..why all the hate on Nnamdi? Just wondering.
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Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation
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Old men with undying grudges die bitter old lonely fools
July 11th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Old men with undying grudges die bitter old lonely fools
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Yep, Al Davis should know better than anybody.
July 11th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 10th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Lol we been losing with Nnamdi so this thought of we cant win without him is ridiculous lol. When have you won with him? And how do you guys think Nnamdi is gonna win a super bowl now when he leaves? GB aint getting him, Jets either and the Bears? Lol cutler led team aint winning sheeeeit. Yeah with the free 18 million you can get players for the oline and something extra to enhance the front 7. Those are far more a concern than a damn db
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KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
179.Raiders for life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Bauce, I’ve been meaning to ask you..why all the hate on Nnamdi? Just wondering.
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Bootlickers couldn’t care less about winning, only Al Davis’ reputation
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HAHAHAHAHAHA kell that just shut ya up….now get Mrs Kelly to throw some talcum powder on your old ass break out the icy hot and send your old ass to bed
July 11th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Old men with undying grudges die bitter old lonely fools
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Yep, Al Davis should know better than anybody.
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You’re not Al Davis, people dont respect or admire you…..you arent on his level so dont even compare yourself to a figure like Al Davis
July 11th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I understand that is alot of money to pay out. But what if the coach utilized him better? I mean that he doesn’t get a lot of throws his way so it’s kind of hard to make plays if you’re half way across the field from the ball. Not arguing but I do like your opinions.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
177.KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
169.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell you like cleaning up and defending your boy why dont you take a crack at it “Bruh”…
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Bootlicker, take a crack at this, how in the hell could the Raiders only have developed ONE QB in their history?
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Kell you must be keyed “Bruh” I abhorr Mr. Davis business decisions, and you know it, as i am on record with this. Although i dont like his decisions, I dont hrp on it every other sentence…
Show me one quote where i posted where i agreed with Mr. Davis decision making????
Sorry “Bruh” you are wrong and a liar…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Kell you still gonna be crying while we win games this season. Al Davis aint dying soon….what is your point at 60 years old if you are this upset?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Kell, find a quote where I am bootlicking Mr. Davis….
I will wait “Bruh”
July 11th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
177.KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
169.Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Kell you like cleaning up and defending your boy why dont you take a crack at it “Bruh”…
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Bootlicker, take a crack at this, how in the hell could the Raiders only have developed ONE QB in their history?
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Kell you must be keyed “Bruh” I abhorr Mr. Davis business decisions, and you know it, as i am on record with this. Although i dont like his decisions, I dont hrp on it every other sentence…
Show me one quote where i posted where i agreed with Mr. Davis decision making????
Sorry “Bruh” you are wrong and a liar…
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I’ve shown this only a million times…..I believe it was RRS who mentioned the Three Stooges the other day
Well the blog has their three officially
Moe= Kell
Curly= Beecher
Larry= MR
July 11th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Kell, find a quote where I am bootlicking Mr. Davis….
I will wait “Bruh”
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You must not have any plans
July 11th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
You must not have any plans
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Hopefully he will be a “stand up guy” and post something that proves his words…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Raiders For Life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
I understand that is alot of money to pay out. But what if the coach utilized him better? I mean that he doesn’t get a lot of throws his way so it’s kind of hard to make plays if you’re half way across the field from the ball. Not arguing but I do like your opinions.
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I mean whether its his fault or not….this is a business tho….if the money isnt matching the production what are you suppose to do? You have holes on this team and you have a deep desire to make a postseason run well something has to be sacrificed…he has to go
July 11th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
You must not have any plans
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Hopefully he will be a “stand up guy” and post something that proves his words…
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Ha never…you mean like when I totally proved MLK was a marxist and hustlin ass preacher? Guy doesnt have an ounce of integrity in his body. He calls us bootlickers but he is the worse bootlicker of all.
He gets on Al and guys like me about Al not winning….well BO aitn winning right now and you defend him and his actions to the max. Hypocrite
July 11th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Kell, You and I plyed this game before…Last time it was “Davis worshipper”
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/11/29/cable-qa-22/
Check the link, you couldnt prove that I was a Mr. Davis worshipper then, just like you cant prove that I am a bootlicek now…So give it a rest “Bruh”…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Thec…..Kell jas saved every post you ever dropped…..he is skimming thru it right now to find where he can get ya…..do the Janet Jackson….”Let’s Wait A While”
July 11th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
you mean like when I totally proved MLK was a marxist and hustlin ass preacher?
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MLK <——- 5% Boule leader…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Kell, You and I plyed this game before…Last time it was “Davis worshipper”
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/11/29/cable-qa-22/
Check the link, you couldnt prove that I was a Mr. Davis worshipper then, just like you cant prove that I am a bootlicek now…So give it a rest “Bruh”…
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The winner of this bout by submission THECULATION2011
July 11th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
you mean like when I totally proved MLK was a marxist and hustlin ass preacher?
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MLK <——- 5% Boule leader…
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got a link?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
197.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Thec…..Kell jas saved every post you ever dropped…..he is skimming thru it right now to find where he can get ya…..do the Janet Jackson….”Let’s Wait A While”
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This will only prove that he is a generalizing liar…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
MLK <——- 5% Boule leader…
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I have got nada to support that outlandish statement just my opinion…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I have a sneaky suspision that most all “so called negro leaders” except Nat Turner, Patrice Lumumba, and Marcus Garvey are of the Boule…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
197.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Thec…..Kell jas saved every post you ever dropped…..he is skimming thru it right now to find where he can get ya…..do the Janet Jackson….”Let’s Wait A While”
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This will only prove that he is a generalizing liar…
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Yeah true but do you think only this can make that evident?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Yeah true but do you think only this can make that evident?
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NO I am not under the illusion that this is new…
I am sure he has been disproved several hundred times.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
That is the one area where the lockout is hurting. Woodson will not have a chance to install any of his coverage schemes. I was excitied to see him mix it up. he said he wanted have the players face the ball more to have a chance to make more plays
July 11th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
THEC…..I dont trust any of them who got a name….how about that?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Anyway time to bone out…Hey Kell when you find any evidence post it, as i got at least 100 post lambasting Mr. Davis that says otherwise….
Try again “bruh”….
Outro…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Thec07 Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Yeah true but do you think only this can make that evident?
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NO I am not under the illusion that this is new…
I am sure he has been disproved several hundred times.
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Yeah I was at several hundred by myself in 2008….who knows how deep the tab is now
July 11th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
That is the one area where the lockout is hurting. Woodson will not have a chance to install any of his coverage schemes. I was excitied to see him mix it up. he said he wanted have the players face the ball more to have a chance to make more plays
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LOL Bresnahan is the DC….Woodson has no scheme
July 11th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
207.Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
THEC…..I dont trust any of them who got a name….how about that?
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That would be prudent, I would not fight against you on a stance like that…As the whole leadership has been non existent…
July 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Blog Itinerary for July 11,th 2011
Stomped MR…..check
Continue to expose Beecher…..check
Embarrass Kell……check
Drop more Raider knowledge……check
Still be the Bauce……check
Outro?……check
July 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
11th* lol
July 11th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
That is the one area where the lockout is hurting. Woodson will not have a chance to install any of his coverage schemes. I was excitied to see him mix it up. he said he wanted have the players face the ball more to have a chance to make more plays
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LOL Bresnahan is the DC….Woodson has no scheme
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Bra, i know who the dc is, woodson is going to have major input on what the secondary does. having played in pitt for capers he is a zone coverage expert. Not having the ability to play zone last year killed us and cost us several touchdowns. Woodson will straiten that out, next year. thanks lockout
July 11th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Bauce Bootlicker, really? Oh boy.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Time to tear up out
July 11th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Oh, I’m sooooooo embarrassed.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I asked the Bootlickers, how is it, that The Raiders have only developed ONE QB in their history, and the Bootlicker asked me about the democratic party and my wife?
July 11th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Ready for some dayum football!
Al Saunders baby! Lets not forget! Last time he was in the AFC West he ran that juggarnaut of an offense in KC. I don’t know how much better we can get having averaged over 20ppg but we’ll see soon enough.
Oh & DHB – I’m sticking with ya’ until otherwise noticed~! If this guy gets going, he just has measurables that would be too hard to stop on the field …6′2″ 220-230lbs and speed to kill.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
I suppose most of the improvement on offense can come from consistency, balance and lastly in the scoring department. Scoring over 20ppg is enough to win most games in the NFL (hence, 9-7). Being more consistent and balance may add another game or two (playoffs!).
July 11th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Defense should get better with more seasoning from Houston & McClain unless the Seymour/Kelly combo loses a beat.
The secondary could be an issue at CB. I have confidence in Routt but CJ tends to get burnt often and at the worst time. After those too there is too much youth and not enough experience.
July 11th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
From the above, I can see the offense getting better overall while the defense gets better in some areas and take a step back in others (shaking out from a zero to +1 game margin all being said).
July 11th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Confucious, football is an addiction for fans. The NFL, the owners and players all know this. They could drag this crap on for years and know that the fans will all come running back to support thier teams.
I hope it ends soon and wish that I was as optimistic as you are.
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Cornfucious grateful for kind words. Cornfucious optimistic because when greedy owners start to feel pinch in anus, they start to get butt-hurt. However, it makes Cornfucious worry about greedy lawyers who may try and corn-hole owners but greedy oewners know better. Greedy NFLPA folks hands tied so they settle for anything, they get automatic shaft up rear no matter if they standing up or on knees. Greedy NFL and greedy television want this locksown to end because they need to generate revenue.
Cornfucious very very very happy locksown almost over and promise to leave after locksown over.
July 11th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Cornfucious say too much money on line for greedy owners and nfl and nflpa and television to keep locksown going. Cornfucious only worry about lawyers who try and shaft everyone in the rear. No one likes to get rear-ended, but lawyers are good at administering it, so if owners and nfl and nflpa don’t like getting rear ended by lawyers, then one can only blame owners and nfl and nflpa. But if big shaft hurt rear end
Locksown be over very soon and Cornfuious be very very very happy and promise to leave and never come back becuse locksown will be over.
July 11th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Cornfucious say locksown very very complicated and take long time for greedy lawyers to try and figure out how to rear-end everyone, but not as complicated as lawyers try and make it, but when Judge Nelson said players could return to work on April 25th and owners kept doors locked, lawyers came to rescue owners because owners have more money than players and lawyers get more money corn-holin’ owners than they do nflpa. But locksown be over this week because owners can’t take rear-end pounding anymore
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Cornfucious be very very very very very happy locksown be over this week and promise to go away and never come back because locksown will be over.
July 11th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I asked the Bootlickers, how is it, that The Raiders have only developed ONE QB in their history, and the Bootlicker asked me about the democratic party and my wife?
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And I asked you who was Stablers QB coach? Did Stabler develope his own self or did he have a qb coach. Todays spoon fed qb’s aren’t tough or smart and they need a qb coach, a play caller, but Stabler didn’t. So it is debatable if the Raidrs even developed a qb ever. Al Davis philosophy is to pick one up in the FA market or a trade, but that is a long long long odd crap shoot, because a good qb doesn’t get traded and teams keep a good qb if he becomes a FA. Cut, let go or recycled qb’s are good for what 1-3 yrs? If they are good at all?
If Hue Jackson takes over the Raiders, then we can look to future developement of QB’s.
July 11th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
who cares I’m over it. 7-9.
bring on college football!
July 11th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Ken Stabler’s mentor in Oakland was George Blanda.
July 11th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
KC is closer than people think. Their O line is young and is only getting better.
Some weapons in place.
Their D line has some top 5 draft picks and an underrated secondary.
SD is still a threat. However, if they the #1 O and D last year stumbles again Norvelle could depart and a rebuild would be in order.
Listen, last year SD played alot of the season without its starting LT and X wide and still led the League. Special teams killed them but they’ll get that sorted this year.
Oakland showed some ability to explode on O last year but their big wins came against teams in flux and at least two turned on big special teams play including Lechler punts that pinned opponents and led to safeties and momentum swings in close games.
Oaklands got waaaay more questions than answers right now and far as I’m concerned, last year doesn’t mean much far as this teams future.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I mean whether its his fault or not….this is a business tho….if the money isnt matching the production what are you suppose to do? You have holes on this team and you have a deep desire to make a postseason run well something has to be sacrificed…he has to go
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Thanks for the clarification Bauce. You make a good point. I don’t exactly agree with you 100% but now I understand your view on Nnamdi.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Oaklands got waaaay more questions than answers right now and far as I’m concerned, last year doesn’t mean much far as this teams future.
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Agreed, lots of ? marks and a few holes to fill. But, if Soup can pull it together I think the Raiders offense is ready to explode. (assuming the key players are re-signed)
July 11th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
It will all come down to the ground game. Can JC manage a good ground game and can the o-line open holes. Once the good ground game is established, JC can dump short passes or run some screens. A nice bootleg once or twice would be in order.
But ask this club to be a passing team first or have huge deficits to overcome via the passing game, and a big question mark is out there. IF JC can connect early and gain some confidence, enough to pull it together, we may be all right. But we are a ground game first. Anyone with any common logic can see that. Even Mr Davis should be able to see that.
July 11th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Ken Stabler’s mentor in Oakland was George Blanda.
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So, no quarterbacks coach, just and old timer helping a new comer. Does that warrant club developement, I can’t say. Do we even have a qb coach right now?
July 11th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/7/7/2265101/former-raider-qb-kerry-collins-calls-it-quits
July 11th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Yeah you know The Talking Lamp Post be hurting when he’s hard-up enough to read about Collins calling it quits. End this damn lock out already.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Terrapin, when you think consistency and balance, you think Al Davis.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Blog Itinerary for July 11,th 2011
Stomped MR…..check
Continue to expose Beecher…..check
Embarrass Kell……check
Drop more Raider knowledge……check
Still be the Bauce……check
Outro?……check
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find a job….n/a
find an apartment…n/a
clean room, like your mom asked you too….n/a
July 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
http://www.nfllockout.com/
Interesting and very large site that most certainly does not pretty up the owners.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
Mistic, since Campbell has left Washington, what has he done to prove Snyder and Shannahan wrong?
July 11th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Realness 101…..
What Is This Lockout About?
This lockout is about the owners taking more than just the game away from fans.
Taking away football is not only devastating to the loyal and supportive fans of the NFL; it’s also devastating to their local economies.
If there is a lockout, an estimated $160 million would be lost in each NFL city.
It is estimated that over 115,000 jobs would be effected.
This lockout is about inequitable leverage.
If there is not a football season in 2011, the owners’ costs will drastically decrease.
The owners have negotiated TV deals that guarantee them revenues even if games are not played in the 2011 season.
The guaranteed television revenues that approach $4.5 billion, coupled with the elimination of $4.4 billion in player salaries and benefits during a lockout, could make a 2011 season without games profitable for the owners.
They are willing to sacrifice the sport of football in this country in order to have less cost, less work, and more revenue for themselves.
This lockout is about owners wanting more from players without justified reasons or restitution.
The owners have not been willing to give proof that they have taken a financial loss, therefore needing more money back from players.
NFL owners are adamant in their desire to reduce the share of league revenue set aside for player salaries by roughly 18 percent ($1 billion) beginning next year.
NFL owners want to increase the amount of games, therefore increasing each player’s risk of injury, but decreasing salaries.
This lockout is about healthcare
Recently, the NFL said it would not continue active player healthcare in a lockout.
The average NFL career is only 3.6 years. It takes 3 accredited years to get just 5 years of post career healthcare.
The addition of 2 more games would hinder a player’s ability to get post career healthcare.
This lockout is about history
Everything the players have today is a result of a past fight for basic rights.
You would have to turn back the clock to the early 1980’s, in the days before free agency, to find a season in which the players’ share of football revenue was as low as that being proposed by the NFL owners.
Some of the things players have fought for include: clean socks and jocks, free agency, former player benefits etc.
http://www.nfllockout.com/what-is-this-lockout-about/
July 11th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Just more Realness…kryptonite to the owners and their shills…
What Is This Lockout NOT About?
This lockout is NOT about players wanting more.
The players want to play.
The players have stated many times they’re content with the current system and revenue split… NFL owners and players each split roughly 50 percent of the revenue pie.
NFL owners, however, DO want more and are adamant about reducing the share of league revenue set aside for player salaries by roughly 18 percent ($1 billion) beginning next year.
This lockout is NOT about an unfair CBA in 2006.
In March of 2006, NFL owners voted overwhelmingly (30-2) to extend the CBA that was set to expire after the 2007 season for an additional six years thereby allowing football to continue through the 2012 season.
In 2008, however, NFL owners voted to opt out of the 2006 CBA extension, thereby terminating the agreement in March of 2011—two years early.
The fact is players and owners currently have a fair deal… here are the percentages over the past eight (8) years:
Percentage of All Revenue (By League Year) received by Players
2002–51.87 %
2003–50.23 %
2004–52.18 %
2005–50.52 %
2006–52.74 %
2007–51.84 %
2008–50.96 %
2009–50.06 %
This lockout is NOT about owners’ risk.
Did you know that if NFL owners choose to lock out players in 2011, they will receive $4.5 billion from their TV contracts EVEN if there is no football games played next season?
Did you know that NFL owners receive a credit of slightly more than $1 billion for operating and investment expenses off the top of the revenue pool ($8.8 billion) BEFORE the remainder of the money is divided with players?
Did you know that while NFL owners complain about financial risks, players contributed $800 million to the new Meadowlands Stadium for the owners of the New York Giants and Jets, and contributed $300 million to the new Dallas Cowboys Stadium?
Did you know that NFL owners have rejected the union’s request that players get ownership stakes in return for assuming financial risk?
This lockout is NOT about players being unreasonable.
Players have agreed to a rookie wage scale, detailing a “Proven Performance Plan.”
The plan called for rookie deals to be reduced in length to three or four years, which creates a revenue pool that would fund incentives for players who outperform their contracts and benefit retired players. The revenue pool would free up approximately $200 million.
Players have always been willing to keep playing under an extension of the existing CBA.
http://www.nfllockout.com/what-is-this-lockout-not-about/
July 11th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
Revenue Impact of Lost NFL Season on Maryland
June 22nd, 2011
If the entire NFL season is canceled, the state of Maryland will lose approximately $40 million, according to one study.
Both the Redskins and Ravens play their home games in Maryland. Direct and indirect activity from the two teams’ home games would bring in an estimated $40 million in tax revenues for the state. If the season is canceled, that money would be lost. Maryland is one of many U.S. states needing increased revenues as it endures the road to economic recovery.
The study states, “Maryland, which hosts two NFL teams, could see a measurable impact on its economy and state and local tax revenues if the NFL season is cancelled or shortened.”
It adds, “Maryland will face a significant revenue shortfall from lost income tax revenues in the event of a full-year lockout. The state could lose between $11.01 million and $12.31 million in direct income tax, while counties could lose between $6.75 million and $7.54 million.”
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Restaurant Chain Wants Season to Be Saved
June 20th, 2011
Two recent posts on NFLLockout.com (here and here) have examined the economic impact the NFL’s lockout has on constituent groups beyond just players and owners. Businesses that depend on the NFL are rightfully concerned about America’s favorite sport—and whether it will be saved.
Buffalo Wild Wings, which launched a “Save Our Season” petition containing nearly 17,000 signatures, wants NFL owners and players to come to an agreement soon. It has written an open letter to both sides, urging them to have a deal by July 20—one month from today.
The popular restaurant chain has even promised free wings to each signer of the petition if the parties come to an agreement and return to football by July 20.
As estimated by The Sports Networker, approximately 1.25 billion wings were eaten on Super Bowl Sunday this year, amounting to nearly $250 million.
Count Buffalo Wild Wings among the many voices that want to see the lockout lifted, and players return to the field.
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Owners’ greed is at the heart of the NFL lockout
(interesting read)
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Goodell tells fans lockout is for them, too
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All this and much more at:
http://www.nfllockout.com/
July 11th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Eldridge dickey,Mervyn fernandez,Jesse Hester,Willie gualt,an to a lesser extent James Jett = Darius heyward-Bey
July 11th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Extra Extra Read All About it!
Goodell tells fans lockout is for them, too!
http://nfllockout.com/
July 11th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
All busts
July 11th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Extra Extra Read All About It!
Cornelius Bennett: NFL should end lockout while negotiations continue
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial-page/from-our-readers/another-voice/article429264.ece
July 11th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Extra Extra Read All About It!
Owners’ greed is at the heart of the NFL lockout
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2014933068_kelley02.html
July 11th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Goodell to the Last Drop
Has the commissioner overplayed his hand? (David Bergman/SI)
In the Point After of this week’s SI, I wrote a little something about Bud Selig … and how people cannot help but underestimate him. This has to do with Bud’s almost mythical ability to look baffled. Who can forget the Bud after the All-Star Game tie? Who can forget his rambling press conference when he held up the rule book after the rain-delayed World Series game? Who can forget … well, he’s just Bud. One day, he will come out and say that maybe Abner Doubleday did invent baseball, and he will come out another day and say that he had never even heard of steroids until two weeks ago, and so on.
But Bud Selig has utterly transformed baseball. I’m not saying that he has always transformed it for the better. That’s a discussion for another time. But at the end of the day, baseball has been transformed — expansion, wild cards, interleague play, increased revenue sharing, drug testing, relative labor peace, new stadiums, All-Star games that determine homefield advantage, the World Baseball Classic, on and on. Maybe baseball stumbled into some of these things. Maybe it was pulled kicking and screaming. But this stuff happened. And Bud, unquestionably, was a force behind this stuff happening. He works the back rooms. He coaxes and ponders and considers. And sometimes he boldly acts. When he rushed in and took the Dodgers away from Frank McCourt, he was not really doing anything out of character. Bud Selig might be the most influential baseball commissioner ever.
But he does not SEEM that way, does he? He just does not present that sort of image. You know that story about the difference between a schlemiel and schlimazel — the schlemiel is the guy who spills the soup, and the schlimazel is the guy who gets the soup spilled on him. Bud Selig seems like, well, both.
I bring this up now for an entirely different reason: Roger Goodell is clearly no schlemiel or schlimazel. Roger Goodell looks, as the cliché goes, right out of central casting. He’s a powerful looking guy, fills out a suit, gives every impression of being in charge at every moment of every day. If you were in a group stuck on an elevator with Roger Goodell, there is no question that he would be in charge, even if you had CEOs of companies and three-star generals in there. There are just people who exude authority, people who will walk down the street and people will just know that they are CEO of something or other. Goodell has that aura.
But, while watching this NFL labor mess, something has occurred to me, something that cuts completely against looks and aura and everything else. It has occurred to me that Roger Goodell might about 20,000 leagues over his head. It has occurred to me that while Bud Selig is destined to be underestimated because of the way he carries himself, that Roger Goodell is destined to be overestimated for exactly the same reason.
Here’s my thinking: The owners, under Goodell’s leadership, decided to go for broke as they try to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement. They did this at a time when the NFL is, by far, the most successful sports league in America, perhaps the world. They did this at a time when the league is a $9 billion entity, when television networks are sending flowers and chocolate, and when reports are coming out constantly about the horrible damage that football does to its players. Goodell, in representing the owners, had the gall to cry poor, to demand a billion more right off the top for the league’s billionaire owners, to say that the game could not possibly continue like this, to take money away from players who seem to be dying young and suffering terribly in their later years, and to actually demand expanding the season.
At this point, the feeling had to be that Goodell knew what he was doing. The NFL is on some kind of crazy winning streak when it comes to building the game — pro football just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Heck, the NFL DRAFT is now one of the biggest sporting events on the calendar. And that’s just a bunch of people in a room writing names on index cards. The league seems invulnerable to harm, and destined only to get richer and more popular and more powerful. On top of that, Goodell just embodies confidence and certainty. If the league officials figured that this was the time to take a bunch of money away from the players, hey, who could argue with their record?
Still, there were signs early on that things were not going as planned. In sports’ work stoppages, at least in my view, the majority of Americans automatically tend to side with the owners … or anyway they tend to side AGAINST the players. I think the reasons for this are involved and complicated and worthy of a 10,000-word post of their own. But generally people seem to get angrier at the players that they know than the silhouettes of the owners that they don’t.
But not in this case. Oh, sure, there were plenty who blamed the players, almost out of habit. More than usual, though, seemed to realize that the players were not really asking for anything. It was the owners shrieking that the system was irreparably broken, that they needed more money, that they needed to add games, that they were in big trouble. And when the players asked them to open the books and actually PROVE that they were in any sort of trouble at all, well, suddenly crickets chirped.
So I think many people blamed the owners for this whole fight. I know I did. I think the NFL owners already have by far the best deal in sports and are driven by pure greed to get more. Roger Goodell’s attempts to change this perception seemed to me pretty pathetic and unconvincing. He kept trying to call the attempt to add two games to the regular season a mere “reconfiguring” of the schedule (and he kept saying that the fans wanted it, though every poll suggested that the fans overwhelmingly did not). He kept talking in vague generalities about the financial doom that the league would face if they did not rework the CBA … and nobody really believed him. He sent what seemed to me an ill-conceived letter to the players association. He sent what seemed to me a ridiculous letter to the fans. And, as expected, he presided over a lockout of the players.
Right now, that lockout looks to be the most self-destructive move that a league has made in a long, long time. The lockout was enjoined by a judge on Monday, meaning it’s now over. The league is appealing Judge Nelson’s ruling, but from what I can tell the league’s appeal seems on shaky ground, and as our own Michael McCann says, the league now has a whole lot to worry about. The players, assuming the ruling is not overturned, now have serious negotiating power. The owners, assuming the ruling is not overturned, now have a serious problem convincing anyone that they aren’t already overflowing in money. This thing has a chance to become a major embarrassment for the owners … and perhaps more than just an embarrassment. It could be a financial catastrophe.
And based on Goodell’s opinion column in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, it looks like the impressive NFL commissioner is completely out of ideas. I wrote on Twitter that the only thing missing from this ludicrous column was exclamation points. You could tell right away that this column was untrustworthy when in the second sentence he wrote, “For six weeks, there has been a work stoppage,” as if that was caused by some sort of natural disaster and was not a result of the owners locking out the players. He then talks about how great the NFL system has been for everyone without even taking one sentence to mention the inconvenient fact that it was the owners, not the players, who wanted to blow up the old system in a bald money grab. He then offers an utterly unrealistic and devious doomsday scenario “if the players win” — a scenario that he knows will never happen and is only in play now because of the owners’ greedy lockout that was slammed down by the courts.
It all screamed of desperation and, frankly, it felt a bit incompetent, too. If Bud Selig ever wrote a column like that, people would be pulling out their torches and pitchforks. Roger Goodell is undoubtedly a brilliant guy, and he has a strong history with the league, and he is trying to represent a group of very different owners who probably resent that they have to give ANY of their money to the players. But that’s the job of commissioner, and right now it looks like Goodell is flailing.
Of course, maybe he isn’t. Maybe he has expected everything that has happened and has contingency plans that are not easily seen now. Maybe everything is going exactly according to plan. I have mentioned that I am reading Robert Caro’s Master of the Senate about Lyndon Johnson, and the amazing thing about LBJ as Senator was how he manipulated people without them knowing it, how sometimes he wanted bills he supported to fail, and how sometimes he wanted people he differed with on his side, and how he had a clear plan that he did not want anyone to see until it was too late.
Maybe Goodell is like that, too. That is certainly the reputation he has built in many quarters. I am beginning to think, though, that reputation is way, way off. Bud Selig is clearly much more effective and authoritative than he lets on. I can’t help but wonder if Roger Goodell is exactly the opposite.
Goodell to the Last Drop
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Has the commissioner overplayed his hand? (David Bergman/SI)
In the Point After of this week’s SI, I wrote a little something about Bud Selig … and how people cannot help but underestimate him. This has to do with Bud’s almost mythical ability to look baffled. Who can forget the Bud after the All-Star Game tie? Who can forget his rambling press conference when he held up the rule book after the rain-delayed World Series game? Who can forget … well, he’s just Bud. One day, he will come out and say that maybe Abner Doubleday did invent baseball, and he will come out another day and say that he had never even heard of steroids until two weeks ago, and so on.
But Bud Selig has utterly transformed baseball. I’m not saying that he has always transformed it for the better. That’s a discussion for another time. But at the end of the day, baseball has been transformed — expansion, wild cards, interleague play, increased revenue sharing, drug testing, relative labor peace, new stadiums, All-Star games that determine homefield advantage, the World Baseball Classic, on and on. Maybe baseball stumbled into some of these things. Maybe it was pulled kicking and screaming. But this stuff happened. And Bud, unquestionably, was a force behind this stuff happening. He works the back rooms. He coaxes and ponders and considers. And sometimes he boldly acts. When he rushed in and took the Dodgers away from Frank McCourt, he was not really doing anything out of character. Bud Selig might be the most influential baseball commissioner ever.
But he does not SEEM that way, does he? He just does not present that sort of image. You know that story about the difference between a schlemiel and schlimazel — the schlemiel is the guy who spills the soup, and the schlimazel is the guy who gets the soup spilled on him. Bud Selig seems like, well, both.
I bring this up now for an entirely different reason: Roger Goodell is clearly no schlemiel or schlimazel. Roger Goodell looks, as the cliché goes, right out of central casting. He’s a powerful looking guy, fills out a suit, gives every impression of being in charge at every moment of every day. If you were in a group stuck on an elevator with Roger Goodell, there is no question that he would be in charge, even if you had CEOs of companies and three-star generals in there. There are just people who exude authority, people who will walk down the street and people will just know that they are CEO of something or other. Goodell has that aura.
But, while watching this NFL labor mess, something has occurred to me, something that cuts completely against looks and aura and everything else. It has occurred to me that Roger Goodell might about 20,000 leagues over his head. It has occurred to me that while Bud Selig is destined to be underestimated because of the way he carries himself, that Roger Goodell is destined to be overestimated for exactly the same reason.
Here’s my thinking: The owners, under Goodell’s leadership, decided to go for broke as they try to negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement. They did this at a time when the NFL is, by far, the most successful sports league in America, perhaps the world. They did this at a time when the league is a $9 billion entity, when television networks are sending flowers and chocolate, and when reports are coming out constantly about the horrible damage that football does to its players. Goodell, in representing the owners, had the gall to cry poor, to demand a billion more right off the top for the league’s billionaire owners, to say that the game could not possibly continue like this, to take money away from players who seem to be dying young and suffering terribly in their later years, and to actually demand expanding the season.
At this point, the feeling had to be that Goodell knew what he was doing. The NFL is on some kind of crazy winning streak when it comes to building the game — pro football just keeps getting bigger and bigger. Heck, the NFL DRAFT is now one of the biggest sporting events on the calendar. And that’s just a bunch of people in a room writing names on index cards. The league seems invulnerable to harm, and destined only to get richer and more popular and more powerful. On top of that, Goodell just embodies confidence and certainty. If the league officials figured that this was the time to take a bunch of money away from the players, hey, who could argue with their record?
Still, there were signs early on that things were not going as planned. In sports’ work stoppages, at least in my view, the majority of Americans automatically tend to side with the owners … or anyway they tend to side AGAINST the players. I think the reasons for this are involved and complicated and worthy of a 10,000-word post of their own. But generally people seem to get angrier at the players that they know than the silhouettes of the owners that they don’t.
But not in this case. Oh, sure, there were plenty who blamed the players, almost out of habit. More than usual, though, seemed to realize that the players were not really asking for anything. It was the owners shrieking that the system was irreparably broken, that they needed more money, that they needed to add games, that they were in big trouble. And when the players asked them to open the books and actually PROVE that they were in any sort of trouble at all, well, suddenly crickets chirped.
So I think many people blamed the owners for this whole fight. I know I did. I think the NFL owners already have by far the best deal in sports and are driven by pure greed to get more. Roger Goodell’s attempts to change this perception seemed to me pretty pathetic and unconvincing. He kept trying to call the attempt to add two games to the regular season a mere “reconfiguring” of the schedule (and he kept saying that the fans wanted it, though every poll suggested that the fans overwhelmingly did not). He kept talking in vague generalities about the financial doom that the league would face if they did not rework the CBA … and nobody really believed him. He sent what seemed to me an ill-conceived letter to the players association. He sent what seemed to me a ridiculous letter to the fans. And, as expected, he presided over a lockout of the players.
Right now, that lockout looks to be the most self-destructive move that a league has made in a long, long time. The lockout was enjoined by a judge on Monday, meaning it’s now over. The league is appealing Judge Nelson’s ruling, but from what I can tell the league’s appeal seems on shaky ground, and as our own Michael McCann says, the league now has a whole lot to worry about. The players, assuming the ruling is not overturned, now have serious negotiating power. The owners, assuming the ruling is not overturned, now have a serious problem convincing anyone that they aren’t already overflowing in money. This thing has a chance to become a major embarrassment for the owners … and perhaps more than just an embarrassment. It could be a financial catastrophe.
And based on Goodell’s opinion column in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, it looks like the impressive NFL commissioner is completely out of ideas. I wrote on Twitter that the only thing missing from this ludicrous column was exclamation points. You could tell right away that this column was untrustworthy when in the second sentence he wrote, “For six weeks, there has been a work stoppage,” as if that was caused by some sort of natural disaster and was not a result of the owners locking out the players. He then talks about how great the NFL system has been for everyone without even taking one sentence to mention the inconvenient fact that it was the owners, not the players, who wanted to blow up the old system in a bald money grab. He then offers an utterly unrealistic and devious doomsday scenario “if the players win” — a scenario that he knows will never happen and is only in play now because of the owners’ greedy lockout that was slammed down by the courts.
It all screamed of desperation and, frankly, it felt a bit incompetent, too. If Bud Selig ever wrote a column like that, people would be pulling out their torches and pitchforks. Roger Goodell is undoubtedly a brilliant guy, and he has a strong history with the league, and he is trying to represent a group of very different owners who probably resent that they have to give ANY of their money to the players. But that’s the job of commissioner, and right now it looks like Goodell is flailing.
Of course, maybe he isn’t. Maybe he has expected everything that has happened and has contingency plans that are not easily seen now. Maybe everything is going exactly according to plan. I have mentioned that I am reading Robert Caro’s Master of the Senate about Lyndon Johnson, and the amazing thing about LBJ as Senator was how he manipulated people without them knowing it, how sometimes he wanted bills he supported to fail, and how sometimes he wanted people he differed with on his side, and how he had a clear plan that he did not want anyone to see until it was too late.
Maybe Goodell is like that, too. That is certainly the reputation he has built in many quarters. I am beginning to think, though, that reputation is way, way off. Bud Selig is clearly much more effective and authoritative than he lets on. I can’t help but wonder if Roger Goodell is exactly the opposite.
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/04/26/goodell-to-the-last-drop/
July 11th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
What’s with all of the booing at the home run derby? Geez. Stay classy, Arizona.
July 11th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Cornfucious say locksown over this week cause owners cannot take butt pounding by lawyers anymore and NFL desperate to save reputation.
Cornfucious will be very happy.
July 12th, 2011 at 12:04 am
As if the owners don’t have lawyers. I think your common sense has taken a butt pounding from the owners’ propaganda machine.
July 12th, 2011 at 4:33 am
Just finished Anthony Beevor’s “The battle for Spain” and about to start Lance Armstrong’s “it’s not about the bike”.
July 12th, 2011 at 5:38 am
Morning AMers. Listening to Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwin on Sirius last night and they said they see us picking up 2-3 OLineman in free agency… They also said you tell me where Bruce Campbell is starting and I will tell you what hole Im coming through to kill your QB.
if you could have your way, amongst current FA’s and our own guys, how would you build our line?
July 12th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Interesting, Bcz24…very interesting, but…what Cable did to Bruce Campbell last year, I will probably say the same thing!
July 12th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Tim Ryan said we should go grab Tyson Clabo to hold down the right side. He said ‘That guy is a Raider’… I like his way of thinking, lol
July 12th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Listening to Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwin on Sirius last night and they said they see us picking up 2-3 OLineman in free agency… They also said you tell me where Bruce Campbell is starting and I will tell you what hole Im coming through to kill your QB.
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LOL!
I wonder what Jhill thinks of “Beast Campbell”, now?
wait. did JFB convert a bunch of you dudes into Cooper Carlisle fans? Is Loper starting? Will Samson Satele play guard? Is Langston Walker retired?
Can Wiz & Barks start from Day 1?
Too many questions and not enough answers
July 12th, 2011 at 6:00 am
Tim Ryan said we should go grab Tyson Clabo to hold down the right side. He said ‘That guy is a Raider’…
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Tim Ryan = YoungAmerican?
July 12th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Can Wiz and Barks start from day one? Not sure if they can, but know that Wiz will be our Center…well, unless Hue Jack cahnged his mind…
July 12th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Clabo would be good…how much you think he’ll be had for?
July 12th, 2011 at 6:10 am
They said Veldheer will start at LT, they made it a point to say Satele will get KILLED at LG, and they dont think hes returning anyways. They said Wiz at center may have a little nepotism involved, but he is a very good player and should do well. They said no to Campbell at guard, and they were high on Barksdale at RT, but think he will need some time.
July 12th, 2011 at 6:59 am
I think Satele should be retained for the main purpose of depth! I sure as heck do NOT want Valdheer as a Center…but wasn’t Wiz2 better at guard in college? I really think they should find his spot!
July 12th, 2011 at 7:18 am
First of all, owners of professional sports franchises are, by nature, inherently greedy. Players, by nature, will take whatever money is offered to them – obscene, or otherwise. Once we get back to football, we’ll all forget about it – unless we lose games, of course.
As far as the Raiders, solid O-line and D-line play are the keys. If Campbell can stay upright all year, Raiders have an extremely good chance to host a playoff game in January.
July 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Wiz’s last game at C was New Years day 2010.
By the time the season starts, he will be looking at over 20 months since he played C in a game.
Got to think there is going to be some learning curves involved this year, especially early in the season.
July 12th, 2011 at 8:27 am
There are learning curves on every team every year, if you draft well you’re going to have rookies playing. The teams that win if you notice are the teams that have the fewest injuries although ocassionally a great team can withstand them. But by in large it’s because of the fewest injuries. As well as the best depth at key areas on the team. GB had a ton of injuries but had great depth. Not to mention one of the hottest QB’s in the game. What they did last year was very impressive.
July 12th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Raiders were pretty injury-free last year.
You are always going to have guys miss a game or two, here and there.
July 12th, 2011 at 8:45 am
I doubt we will let Satele go as we need depth at Center and he is the only one with experience. Same could be said for Cooper Carlisle.
July 12th, 2011 at 8:54 am
JFB
I know that, that’s why I said what I said..
July 12th, 2011 at 9:07 am
So, with a pretty healthy year last year, always got to worry about the other shoe falling, and have a wave of injuries this year.
Brad Roll will be a very important man this season.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I doubt we will let Satele go as we need depth at Center and he is the only one with experience. Same could be said for Cooper Carlisle.
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Silver,
when you have 2 new coaches and 4 new starters on the O-Line, “continuity” isn’t exactly what you’re shooting for
Carlisle, Henderson, Barnes & Walker could ALL be gone for good. Al Davis seems pretty excited to see Bruce Campbell be a part of his starting five and he was quick to re-sign Daniel Loper after negotiations with Bob Gallery broke down (ie Gallery rejected his lowball offer)
It’ll be interesting to see if Satele becomes a UFA after this CBA mess gets resolved – Same with Bush, Miller & Reece. BCZ got any more details on this?
Raiders tendered Satele BEFORE they drafted Wiz and immediately called Wiz thier Center (not guard). He may be gone as well if he wants to be a starter in this league or at least wants “starter money”
July 12th, 2011 at 9:20 am
3 rookies on an O-line sound like trouble.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
RR
So you think Satele is gone even though he is the only experienced Center we have?
“3 rookies on an O-line sound like trouble.”
Kind of scary isn’t it?
July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 am
270.neilb Says:
July 12th, 2011 at 9:20 am
3 rookies on an O-line sound like trouble.
^^^^^^
It sure does.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Raiders were pretty injury-free last year
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JFB,
Campbell missed 4 starts last year (mainly due to performance)
McFadden missed 4 starts last year
Seymour missed 3 starts last year
Murphy missed 2 games last year
CJ37 missed 4 games last year
John Henderson missed 7 games last year
Chaz Schilens missed 11 games last year
July 12th, 2011 at 9:30 am
That was nothing last year.
Chaz missing ONLY 11 games last year was a banner year for him!!!
July 12th, 2011 at 9:31 am
3 rookies on an O-line sound like trouble
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Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale
BCamp isn’t technically a “rookie” but he might as well be with ZERO playing time last season
Veldheer is the veteran of the bunch and he didn’t become a full-time starter at LT until Week 7 @ Denver
8 false starts, 5 holding calls and 7.5 sacks allowed
July 12th, 2011 at 9:31 am
823.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 11th, 2011 at 11:28 am
This flies in the face of the popular beleif that davis is a meddling micromanager to with all of his coaches. If you are shakey (cable, callahan, white bugel, kiffin)you are told what to do. if you know what your doing davis sticks to the personel side and leaves the schemes to you, gruden madden flores. Davis doesnt trust many but so far Hu jack has the keys to franchise.
“Coach Davis is a man who has one vision in mind and that’s winning,” “That’s all he’s interested in. That’s all I’m interested in. I have total autonomy. I’m the head coach of this football team. …
“We talk about plays and how they work and why they don’t work, and that’s tremendous,”
“[Davis] talks football 24-7. He’s not one who rules with an iron fist and says you better do this. We’re all chasing one thing, which is winning.”
Hu Jack city!!!!!
^^^^^^^^
That’s nice and all, but there is a difference between talking about winning and knowing how to get it done!
July 12th, 2011 at 9:32 am
271.Silverandblack666 Says:
July 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
RR
So you think Satele is gone even though he is the only experienced Center we have?
“3 rookies on an O-line sound like trouble.”
Kind of scary isn’t it?
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I’m not too scared myself,but I’ll bet Jas Campbells’ having a few sleepless nights.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Chaz missing ONLY 11 games last year was a banner year for him!!!
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no kidding, JFB! lol
Ronaldo Mcclain has Crohn’s Disease and only missed one start
July 12th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Veldheer played well FOR A ROOKIE, but the facts remain that he was one of the most penalized LT’s in the league and gave up a lot of sacks as well.
He needs to improve going into year 2, but I feel confident that he will.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:34 am
I’ll bet Jas Campbells’ having a few sleepless nights.
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we’re just gonna throw these young grunts in there and hope for the best. Hopefully it isn’t a flashback to 2006
Jhill sees it like this (I think?). These guys are all beastly run blockers and the pass protection from last year couldn’t get any worse
July 12th, 2011 at 9:36 am
He needs to improve going into year 2, but I feel confident that he will
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in other words …
Veldheer = McClain
July 12th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I think Veldheer benefitted at lot like what Bruce benefitted from.
Bruce got a nice boost because he wasnt’ Jamarcus.
Veldheer is revered and feels like a good LT, basically because he is not Kwame or Mario.
If Veldheer plays like he did last year, this year, we will have one of the worst LT’s in the league. Again.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Don’t want to sound too down on our young Oline.I would have been happier if they’d had all the mini camps teams normally have this time of year.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Later Raiders.
July 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
O-line will be a strength moving forward, IMO.
Just not so sure they will be a strength this year, especially the first few games.
Road games in Denver are brutal on tackles historically with the crowd noise, and I believe Dumervil will be back for them.
Buffalo shouldn’t be too much of an issue, but it is week 2.
NY Jets week 3?? YIKES for the elite O-lines of the NFL, not even sure what the adjective would be to describe a young inexperience O-line going against Rex Ryan.
Same thing with the Pats week 4. Bellicheck will have all kinds of fronts and blitz-packages designed to create confusion, and Bellicheck is probably one of the greatest the NFL has ever seen in creating confusion defensively.
Tough sledding for our youngsters to start the year.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
RRS…..why do you keep putting Loper as the left guard? What makes you think that?
July 12th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Yeah, DKnight. Mistic thinks Al Davis and Hue Jackson will work fine together, because Hue says so. I think he just became a Raider fan.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Im not worried about Denver in week 1. They are in much worse shape than us and also will not have had the benefit of minicamps etc. Buffalo doesnt scare me much either. Kyle Williams is a solid nose for them, but they dont have a very good pass rush at all and their run d makes ours look pretty good. The Jets are going to massacre our OLine though. Patsies have a pretty poor pass rush, but Wilfork will chew us up in the middle.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Had a weird dream that Al Davis was announcing his retirement. I didn’t want to wake up. I was getting ready to buy season tickets and everything.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
What is your malfunction on this issue?….I’ve already told you what the oline plan is as of now right from a raider employee’s mouth…..Veldheer-Carlisle-Wiz-campbell-Barksdale………..Loper was signed becuz he provides depth and insurance since he can play G and T. You and Jhill just must be stubborn and wanna ignore reality
July 12th, 2011 at 10:06 am
MR….no one wants you at the games…..stay away
July 12th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Well, no worries, Brien. As long as we have the worst (and most senile) GM in football, I won’t be going to any games. I don’t spend my money on garbage.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:08 am
MR you want Hue to fail this year…..your biggest fear is Raiders hosting a home playoff game in january…..u’ll prolly attempt suicide but youre such a loser you will fail even at that
July 12th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Bills and Broncos were the 2 worst rushing defenses in the NFL last year.
Going even 1-1 in those first two games will be somewhat of a disappointment, even though they are both road games.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Ok fine MR…..PLEASE LET US KNOW the first game you come to coliseum…..there is a long line of people just waiting to meet you
July 12th, 2011 at 10:11 am
JFB…..i dont care if we lose in buffalo….that game will be tough as it is…..but you cant lose opening night or it will be 9th seasson in a row no playoffs
July 12th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Brien, I think I made it abundantly clear in the previous two comments. The first game I’ll be going to is the first game Al is gone. You’ll be noticing a lot of new people at that game. 20,000 or so. Full house. Raiders will finally have a chance again.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil, coming off the edge on a silent count??
Not much fun for any tackles in this league. We have to keep those two off Soup, and force Tebow into some turnovers (something we couldn’t do last year).
Bills week 2 should be a much easier game.
While the Bronco’s crowd will be rocking week 1 on MNF, Bills fans should have already experienced a week 1 loss to take some of their sting away.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
MR…..you will have a big grand welcome party in either tthe A lot or D lot
July 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Gotta run, Brien.
I’ll leave you with this…to remind you of just how lucid your hero is:
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July 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Great MR….YOU MAKE SURE you come to the tailgate and let us know where you are seated
July 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Good morning Bauce
July 12th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Yeah whatever you coward…..u will never show ur face to anyone from this blog…….especially the Bauce
July 12th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Promise you this MR….u show up in the Lot…you wont be entering the gates to see the game
July 12th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Vegas Raider…..haha Buffalo game easier? You smarter than this. You think a team who always had loud fans is gonna be easy in their home opener? Plus how do you figure they lose to KC? I got bills winning that game and being the upset of week 1
July 12th, 2011 at 10:22 am
….negotiations with Bob Gallery broke down (ie Gallery rejected his lowball offer)
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I don’t think it’s accurate to say Al ‘low balled’ Gallery.
Let’s wait and see what kind of offers Gallery gets once free agency commences. I seriously doubt Gallery is going to be offered much more than 2.5 million per.
Truth is Gallery has been injury prone. I’ve seen it said that he was a superior, bordering on dominant, guard, but honestly I felt he was mediocre at best.
Gallery definitely thought the Raids were low balling him. If he didn’t feel this way, he wouldn’t have gone public so quickly to announce he definitely wasn’t returning. The Raids made it clear they weren’t interested in retaining Bob for anywhere near what he was asking. I’m thinking the Raids weren’t enamored with his level of play to begin with and considered him an injury risk as well. Robert was vastly overpaid during his time in Oakland and I don’t blame the Raids for feeling it was time to part ways.
I’d be interested to know exactly what Gallery’s expectations were and what the Raider offer was.
Gallery might fetch a larger bounty than what the Raids offered him. If he does, then you could say the Raids low balled him. Even so, low balling Gallery might turn out to have been the right thing to do. I don’t think Gallery is going to have a very lengthy or productive career ahead of him. Good luck to Gallery and whomever signs him – as long as they’re not playing the Raids.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Vegas…..u really underestimate the Bills….they were competitive enough against teams more talented than the chiefs. Fitzpatrick is a good young qb who gets the skills ppl involved. Watch CJ Spiller vastly improve as a RB
July 12th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I got the Bills losing week 1, and being no better than 5-11 this year.
Not so sure on the Donks, could go 4-12, could go 10-6 with Jesus at QB.
But a MNF game in Denver is going to be waaaaaaay louder than in Buffalo. And Buffalo has no edge rushers, who have the most to gain from crowd-noise advantages.
Never said it would be easy, but easier than the Broncos game. Von Miller and Dumervil are a scary pass-rushing duo.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Gallery is soft….Ninerwoman49 GayesDaze37 and La Melissa can relate
July 12th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Von Miller did what in NFL last season? Elvis Dumberville is coming off major surgery lol….yeah so scared……..buffalo gonna have merriman off the supplements and aaron maybin I guess is some scruub. They run a 3-4 with blitzing from all angles. I doubt you are taking this in account
July 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Bills had the worst rush defense in the NFL. They have no pass-rush, no ground game and Chan Gailey as a HC.
They have no chance at anything.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Ummmm Vegas….Buffalo has always had a rowdy ass crowd. This is since the 60s with Jack Kemp! To diss Buffalo’s crowd like that is purely off. And after they beat the chiefs that eastcoast crowd will be crazy…..do you forget we play them early sunday on a short week….u clearly arent looking at big picture
July 12th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Bills had 27 whole sacks last year.
If they are “blitzing from all angles” and mustering only 27 sacks, than there is holes all over the field.
The also gave up more than 35 yards a game rushing than we did as well.
Not worried about the Bills, unless Steve Johnson goes ape-ish on us.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Short week……now that is cause for concern.
Did not factor that one in. Still thinks the Bills crowd won’t be raging as much as MNF in Denver.
Broncos-Raiders man!!! Some of the wildest crowds you will see in football games. Through it on a season-opener on MNF, and you are looking at probably the craziest home crowd all of week 1.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:38 am
the Bills are the least of our worries compared to the rest of the afc east.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:38 am
314 beware of barrell man
July 12th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Miami last year came in and did a number on us.
July 12th, 2011 at 10:48 am
You think ppl just try to go into a season and not improve on weaknesses? Com on Vegas lol
July 12th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Thank u for mentioning Steve Johnson! They got Lee Evans as well with Spiller! They got a few weapons to cause problems on that turf
July 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Oh buffalo was worse in this and couldnt do that…..just like the 09 raiders huh?….see my point?
July 12th, 2011 at 11:00 am
…..just like the 09 raiders huh?….see my point?
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I think you just made mine for me
2009 Raiders:
Can’t stop the run, inconsistent QB and WR play, good running the ball, decent pass-rush, great ST’s.
Basically the same thing as the 2010 Raiders, with some slight upgrades here and there.
So we can expect the Bills to maybe improve in some areas (like going from worst in the league to maybe 25th against the run), but they still will lack a pass-rush, struggle to stop the run and consistantly run the ball, and hope to win with Fitz throwing 50 passes a game.
July 12th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Bills may improve, but they still will more than likely be a last placed team in their divison, and drafting in the top 10 next year.
Chan Gailey people!!!!! Not going anywhere with that guy calling the shots.
July 12th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Bills dont worry you? Least of your worries? Who the fk do yall think all are? Raiders arent an elite team. This aint the packers of the 60s, steelers of 70s or Redskins of the 80s! Who the hell are you to overlook anyone? AZ and SF STUNK last year and beat us at home now Buffalo will be easy. This is the problem with most of yall on here and the problem John Vella told me developed since good ole days…….. TOOK THINGS FOR GRANTED………and when yyou get your ass whipped you cant recover
July 12th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Chan Gailey has won division before in his coaching career and did it i nhis first season….so what are you talking about?
July 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
No VR….I DIDNT MAKE YOUR POINT BECAUSE 09 RAIDERS WERE A 5 WIN TEAM AND IMRPOVED TO 8-P8 WITH A TOP TIER OFFENSE and also was among leaders in sacks with a 5-3 at home and undefeated in division….now tell me what angle it is ur coming from again?
July 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Bauce Rules Says:
July 12th, 2011 at 10:13 am
MR…..you will have a big grand welcome party in either tthe A lot or D lot
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I’m still waiting for the big grand welcoming party in my parking lot. Lol.
Such a little pootbutt.
July 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
In my view i see 4 tiers in the NFL OF CLASSIFYING A TEAM………you got 1st tier that consist of title contenders….2nd tier are your playoff contenders……3rd tier is for average teams and 4th tier is for garbage. Guess what folks we still in 3rd tier! Who do u think u are to be this cocky?
July 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Don’t like starting the season with 2 road games, but can’t complain about the opponents.
Don’t see either the Mules or Bills as being capable of putting up alot of points and blowing the Raids out. Even if JaJason stinks it up, Raids figure to be in each game. Pound the rock, avoid turnovers and Raids should be able to grind out 2 wins.
The mules are gonna remember the Raids whacking them at home and will be looking for some ambush revenge. The Mules also have shown the ability in recent years to get off to a quick start only to fade badly later in the year. Vegas currently has line at Mules -1, total is 42.
Traveling 3k miles on a short week for a 10 AM game has been bad news for the Raids and just about all west coast teams.
Be nice to win at least one of those games. Raids start 0-2 with Jets coming in and there will be people ready to throw in the towel. At which point the Raids will promptly demolish the Jets and the Superbowl talk will resume.
July 12th, 2011 at 11:14 am
We have won about 3 maybe 4 damn games in the early easter time zone games in the last 8 seasons……calm that bs down now
July 12th, 2011 at 11:19 am
1. We lost on the road to AZ and SF last year.
2. If you are sweating Buffalo this hard, then you obviously have predicted us to be 0-16
Buffalo is a very similar team to us, a lot of the same issues. Very weak OLine, very little pass rush, although marcell dareus will help with that. Maybin will be a camp casualty, the guy is a bum, their secondary is pretty bad, and they are losing Winfield and Posluzny, 2 of the 3 best defensive players. Kyle Williams is a cause for concern in the middle especially against a rookie center. The crowd will be loud, but 1/3 of the crowd or more will be wearing black, there is lots of Raiders fans in the area and we will all be there!
July 12th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Ninerwoman49 we know u want to start 0-2
July 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Having D.Moore and Ausberry means we will be saying bye bye for sure to JLH and maybe even Nick Miller.
July 12th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
285.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 12th, 2011 at 9:51 am
O-line will be a strength moving forward, IMO.
Just not so sure they will be a strength this year, especially the first few games.
Road games in Denver are brutal on tackles historically with the crowd noise, and I believe Dumervil will be back for them.
Buffalo shouldn’t be too much of an issue, but it is week 2.
NY Jets week 3?? YIKES for the elite O-lines of the NFL, not even sure what the adjective would be to describe a young inexperience O-line going against Rex Ryan.
Same thing with the Pats week 4. Bellicheck will have all kinds of fronts and blitz-packages designed to create confusion, and Bellicheck is probably one of the greatest the NFL has ever seen in creating confusion defensively.
Tough sledding for our youngsters to start the year.
^^^^^^^^
O-Line needs to be a strength NOW!
Otherwise they start off slow on the road the first two games and it may get ugly from there with the schedule being competitive as usual for the Raiders.
Starting 3 rookies ( Wiz, Campbell-redshirt bascially, and Barksdale) and a 2nd year player in Veldheer on the road the first two games is not easy.
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