Players looking for less contact?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, July 16th, 2011 at 12:23 pm in Oakland Raiders.
UPDATE: Chris Mortensen of ESPN has reported owners have agreed to elimination of two-a-day practices during training camp, although allowances will be made for a second session without helmets.
Training camp isn’t what it used to be, and that’s probably a good thing with regard to the long-term health of the players.
It’s a big deal when there are any real blows struck during training camp. The Raiders had a couple of “live” sessions when players were actually brought to the ground. Much was made of Mike Singletary’s difficult camp and “nutcracker” drills, but from the few times I was out at Niners’ practice, at least a couple of people who saw the team regularly thought that the intensity of those drills and the amount of contact was overblown.
Teams take care of their players, and although it’d be nice to say it was for health-related reasons, much of it is economic. It makes no sense to lose multi-million dollar investments on the practice field.
According to Chris Mortensen, speaking on ESPN and picked up in an item on Profootballtalk.com, one of the items on the the table pushed by the players is for reduced contact during camp and to “basically eliminate” two-a-days.
Seems a bit extreme from what I’ve observed over the last several years, with the Raiders in particular.
I can’t remember the last time the Raiders had two practices in a day and actually put on the pads for both of them. It’s usually one padded practice, a couple of hours or 2:15 in length, followed by another in shorts, shells and helmets. In the padded practices, players are aren’t actually brought to the ground except in rare instances. Sometimes, the second practice is merely a walkthrough.
The isolated blocking drills, man-to-man, have become more infrequent every year. From a selfish perspective, that’s unfortunate. It happens to be one of the more entertaining parts of training camp. In many cases, there’s a bit of explosive contact, then players back off. The value comes from film sessions which can determine whether proper angles were taken, etc.
Whatever restrictions are put upon camp and contact, it shouldn’t affect the Raiders much. Teams that could be affected include the Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets, whose sessions are much more brutal than most of what we see in in Napa. I’ve seen NFL Network footage of the Ravens in practice and it looks almost like a game. Nnamdi Asomugha said former teammate Chris Carr has talked with him about the intensity of Ravens’ practices.
Likewise, the amount of full-speed contact I saw from the Jets on the “Hard Knocks” series last year seemed much more “live” than most of what happens with the Raiders.
Coincidence or not, the Raiders have had some tackling issues for the last several years. The dilemma is in shoring up that area without actually tackling. When the Raiders went from the NFL’s 30th ranked defense (out of 30 teamas) in 1997 to No. 5 in 1998, coordinator Willie Shaw explained improvement didn’t come through better tackling. It came because the Raiders got more players to the ball so that when a tackle was broken or missed, another player was there to follow up.
That problem will belong to Chuck Bresnahan in whatever form training camp takes, and he may have to solve it with less contact than ever.
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July 16th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Good Afternoon Gentlemen!
July 16th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
July 16th, 2011 at 10:38 am
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July 16th, 2011 at 1:35 am
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July 16th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
You can’t remember the last time the Raiders had two a days where both practices were in full gear with live contact, Jerry? I’m betting it was some time between 1998 and 2001. What do you think?
July 16th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Sorry I got distracted – this one crazy hostess babe from Islands filled my hot tub up with margaritas from the PARTYDUDE 8000 and started splashing around topless.
Of course the only choice I had was to turn on the jets and pump up some Kid n Play.
And of you dorks ever drive a convertible Corvette into a glass elevator? I need a little more bass at the Carmegeddon Bikini Blowout and am running out of options.
July 16th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
The isolated blocking drills, man-to-man, have become more infrequent every year.
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That in a nutshell is just plain frightening.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Yo
July 16th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
I just hope the lockout ends tomorrow. After that the players can wear too-too’s at camp for all I care.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
The San Francisco Chronicle’s Vittorio Tafur believes free agent Randy Moss would be the Raiders’ most likely target were they to go after a veteran wideout this summer.
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Vittorio is obviously an idiot.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Al and Randy Moss can be like George Steinbrenner and Billy Martin.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Has Al ever brought back a player that has left the team? Just wondering.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
“left the team”. lol. Could you be anymore dramatic? There’s more specific reasons as to why one leaves a team.
July 16th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Hey Goobers, just checking in from Carmegeddon Bikini Blowout Headquarters.
Just to keep everyone updated, we’ve finished off the hot tub full of margaritas with long straws we made by soldering together Red Vines.
Then the rest of the Puerto Rican Women’s Volleyball team showed up and before I could warm up the PARTYBRO 8500 Mai Tai machine, two of them covered me and sun tan oil and we started full on macking.
They didn’t want to go all the way until the got more wasted, so I cruised into the bathroom, got high on some sticky green ganja and passed out on my beanbag.
Luckily (for the girls) when I woke up I was getting a sweet bj from the now wasted Puerto Rican babes.
Any of you doofuses know if they make any condoms bigger than Magnums?
July 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
What up peeps, looking forward, to the up coming season. I’m not really sure how our team will fare, I want to be optimistic about having a good season, but I also want to be realistic. Our schedule is going to be a lot harder then last year that’s forsure and we might be playing a lot of youth at key positions especially across the oline. I believe that were heading in the right direction. If we continue you to fill our squad with players with a Lamarr Houston and deathro mentality’s u eventually going to have a solid team. Barring any big free agent moves were going to need a lot of players to step up. And young players at that. I hope there up to the task. We need big years from Bruce Campbell, wiz II, Valdeer, and barksdale. That’s a lot to ask. Our young db’s got to step up. I believe Walter macfadden will be a good player for us. I remember on path to the draft, he got high reviews for being a ball hawk. Man I swear, I would hate to play on a team that some of you bloggers were GM’s for. You guys would have released namdi and dmac after one season.any ways I’m anxious to have this lockout end to see if we make any wise free agent moves, cross ur fingers for lb Macintosh
July 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Has Al ever brought back a player that has left the team? Just wondering
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RAIDER Says:
July 16th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
“left the team”. lol. Could you be anymore dramatic? There’s more specific reasons as to why one leaves a team
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MR, thanks for not answering my question. Obviously you don’t know. Don’t reply to my questions ever again thank you very much.
July 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
The San Francisco Chronicle’s Vittorio Tafur believes free agent Randy Moss would be the Raiders’ most likely target were they to go after a veteran wideout this summer.
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Vittorio is obviously an idiot.
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“Vittorio is obviously an idiot,” but Davis has stated publicly that he regretted trading Moss and blamed it on coaches that persuaded him (Kiffen). Cannot put it past Al to pick up Moss.
July 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Has Al ever brought back a player that has left the team? Just wondering.
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Lance Johnston, Naplolean Harris and Doug Gabriel. Don’t think any of them did anything, at all.
July 16th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
16.DutchRaider77 Says:
July 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Has Al ever brought back a player that has left the team? Just wondering.
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Lance Johnston, Naplolean Harris and Doug Gabriel. Don’t think any of them did anything, at all.
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Thanks Dutch,
The reason that I ask is because of the Randy Moss question floating around. I wasn’t sure if Al is kind enough to welcome back players.
July 16th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Tom Cable was cutting edge in his reduced contact practices!!!!
What a visionary
July 16th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Lance Johnston, Naplolean Harris and Doug Gabriel. Don’t think any of them did anything, at all.
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most recently Langston Walker.
July 16th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Raymond Chester.
July 16th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I can’t imagine Randy Moss coming back.
He seemed to hate it here, and spoke bad about the organization publicly.
That would be one helluva sales job by Hue to get that done.
July 16th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Can’t imagine Cable coming back either. Maybe as a two-bit thug or something, but after the way Davis trash talked him? I just don’t know……
July 16th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820caaf6/article/owners-players-make-progress-aim-to-seal-deal-next-week?module=HP11_headline_stack
I’ll believe it when I see it.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
I don’t know about Moss. He layed down on the Raiders once.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Anybody think we’ll be seeing flag football before 2020? Hhhmmmmm? Safety has got-to become an issue. Do players have any OSHA or State Labor and Industry safety claims, you know, industrial insurance. How does that work? Just wonderin…….
July 16th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
I’m afraid if JC can’t get the ball to Moss on every play, could be a disaster. Dude would quit on the team.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I don’t think Moss would come back here, even for the money.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
I don’t think Moss would even consider coming back here, even for money or no money.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Jerry that’s all Willie ever talked about in postgame pressers was getting 11 hats to the ball. Willie was a very impressive coach IMO. He really understood the mentality of young players and vets. Listening to him made me appreciate what it takes to develope talent. Every player is different and understanding players strengths and weaknesses. I also remember the huge fight he has with Mr D that led to his dismissal. It started with that coverage mistake vs KC on Monday Night Football allowing them to beat us after we dominated them most of the game.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Are we sure how Davis feels about Moss, you know, heart broken he got away…….
But I’d really like to know how Moss feels about Davis and the Raiders.
Insight welcome.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
That’s a question for the “Wizard of OZ”….
July 16th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Theres not really a Wizard of Oz. Dorothy proved that.
July 16th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Tell Randy Moss that….
July 16th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Bresnahan is a freaking joke. 7-9
July 16th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Thoughts on bringing in Randy and getting Pryor in the supp draft?
July 16th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
If he was willing to teach DHB anything, anything at all. I think that would be worth a decent amount of money. Really, what’s his worth right now anyway on the open market…
July 17th, 2011 at 12:37 am
No Moss
No T.O.
No Farve
No Ocho
No to every one but who the Raids got right now, who they drafted, and the rest is developement, with the new coaches Mr. Davis hired ought to be a slice of pie. Any guesses as to whom the distinction of quarterbacks coach belongs to? Hue Jackson?
BTW, first time poster and looking forward to more discussion here in this fine blog.
July 17th, 2011 at 2:05 am
That problem will belong to Chuck Bresnahan in whatever form training camp takes, and he may have to solve it with less contact than ever.
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Can he do it? Is he ahead of or behind the curve? I mean can the tackling issues get better with less contact? Will the rookies know what a legit hit feels like come gameday? Chuck B, really?
So many questions with very to grab at.
July 17th, 2011 at 2:08 am
***very little to grab at.***
(first time poster jitters)
July 17th, 2011 at 3:09 am
Keep ‘em coming Jerry.Like a glass of water to a thirsty man.
Cheers!
July 17th, 2011 at 6:30 am
OH NO
The womens soccer game is on at the same dam time as the NASCAR race.
Whats a rednecked soccer ambassador to do?
In the meantime I will be medicating on MM and mediating on the British Open.
July 17th, 2011 at 6:31 am
I like Clarke and Phil and Fowler
July 17th, 2011 at 6:34 am
If you dont have soccer favor, pics like this will give it to you.
This is a pic of my favorite player showing off her massive skills
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July 17th, 2011 at 6:36 am
Soccer fever, not favor.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:01 am
I thought Al said it was Kiffin who dealt Moss away? Interesting we’re hearing all this talk now of Al not bringing Moss back because Moss was a ‘traidah’.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:09 am
priest, I’m not accusing you of lying or anything. But that KC game where we blew coverage at the end was in ‘97. Shaw didn’t get here until ‘98. I don’t know what led to Al and Willie Shaw clashing, but it couldn’t have been that. I was at that game, btw, sitting in the upper box of the very end zone where Rison caught that pass. One of the beers he got doused with came from my friend. As far as I could see, that play was blown via our usual man/prevent. And I believe it was an aging Terry McDaniel who got smoked. A Davis guy. Back to Willie Shaw, I liked him. I heard that it was actually him and Gruden who butted heads, and that Shaw wanted to be HC. But then again, I only heard that from other fans and I’ve learned that getting inside Raider information from Raider fans is like getting U.S. national security info. from a redneck at a Sean Hannity book signing. While I don’t doubt their passion, they tend to confuse what’s true and what they wish were true. I can’t fine one quote from Gruden anywhere, even remotely dissing Shaw. And we all know Al’s history of clashing with coaches.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:13 am
I would love to see Randy come back. If he becomes a distraction them release him and move on. There’s more upside than down imo. We need a leader on offence and he could be the guy. He could really open it up for Miller, Ford, and Daddy Mac.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:20 am
It could be Al doesn’t want to bring him back in the event that he tears the team apart, thus proving Kiffin right.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:28 am
I saw some of the Sugar Bowl replay yesterday on espn. It was cut up and condensed. I see why some of you in here were high on Mallet. Accurate with a gun. Pryor did not look like a QB to me. A play maker playing QB. Dude would kill at te, I wonder if he can block. A round 5 pick would be cool, but not to play QB. If you guys think JC has a slow delivery …. Pryor makes Kerry Collins look like lighting. The athletic plays he made in college will not carry an offense in the NFL IMO.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Randy Moss would be the new version of Javon Walker. Who supports the hiring?
July 17th, 2011 at 7:42 am
NE’s a pretty solid franchise, love them or hate them. They gave Moss his big chance as a reclamation project, and it seems at least they feel he’s run his course in that phase of his career. I don’t think he’s anyone’s number one anymore. If he understands that, then he could be a solid number 2 or 3. But knowing his ego, I doubt he does, or ever would. Moss is a bad idea.
July 17th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Bring back Bruuuuce! !! He is a better #2 than Boller.
July 17th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Give Moss incentive contract. He can’t hurt the team unless you allow him too. You can always Donald Trump him “your fired “.
July 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Pryor could be a beast as a WR. 6′6″, 233lbs. Andre, and Calvin Johnson measurables. Gonna take a giant DB to cover. A guy like that. If we sign a FA DB I hope it’s Cromartie.
July 17th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Oh, I’m sure Moss and his agent will be perfectly fine with an incentive contract! How about one where Al puts a sparkly star sticker on his locker for every catch he makes?
July 17th, 2011 at 8:45 am
As far as Moss willing to sign here and take a cut just to be a part of the Raider greatness, remember he’s expressed before that he finds the whole thing “fishy”.
July 17th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Moss isnt necessarily a vertan leader the young raiders offense needs around them.
its would be a horrible move to bring him. youll see a T.O. here before you’ll see a randy moss.
July 17th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Would it kill the Raiders to make serious moves for free agents that are productive… and don’t have issues?!? lol. I dunno. Say, like Charlie Garner, Jerry Rice, Rich Gannon….sheesh. Last I checked, it worked out well…I know you’re not going find a trio that great in this market but heck, at least use the same formula we used to bring them. Try to build a serious team. Let them become characters on their own. Our goal should just be to win.
July 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Matt Jones was another collegiate QB, who had great size and was actually faster than Terrell Pryor (4.37 at the combine Matt Jones did, 2nd fastest time OF ANY PLAYER THAT YEAR) and he moved to WR.
Now he did have some coke issues, but he was a major flop and bust as a 1st rounder and is out of the league.
A 5th rounder on Pryor is nowhere near that type of investment, but great size and great athlete does not always equal even an average NFL WR.
Lots of nuances at that position, that teams these days just don’t have the patience to teach.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Of course Matt Jones, who never played WR at any point in his life heading into the NFL, caught 36 passes and 5 TD’s his rookie year, about quadrupuling what DHB did his rookie year.
In fact, it took Matt Jones 7 games to catch 2 TD’s, as it has taken DHB 25 games.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:21 am
As soon as the Lockout ends, teams are going to be scrambling to sign Bruce Gradkowski, he’ll get a HUGE contract!
Print that!
July 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Gradkowski was a better than average backup, proven. Now we only have unproven backups under Campbrell. And remember that Campbell needed to be bailed out a few times last year.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Gradkowski has been hanging with Larry Fitzgerald and working with him in AZ a lot of the summer and tweeting about it all the time.
I think AZ is a good landing spot for him. He will get a chance to compete for their starting job.
Otherwise, teams like Tenn, Minny or Cincy may sign him to push their rookies in camp and start a game or two to begin the year if they are not ready.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:38 am
GOP presidential contender Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and her husband Marcus preemptively left their church of more than ten years just weeks before she announced her candidacy to avoid association with its extremist views. Salem Lutheran Church in Stillwater, Minnesota, has faced criticism this week for its anti-Catholic views, including preaching that the Pope is the Antichrist.
http://thinkprogress.org/
July 17th, 2011 at 10:50 am
As long as Gradkowski’s shoulder is OK, he’ll prove out to be a better QB than JaJason.
That’s really not saying much.
Grads will develop into a very good QB. He’ll be as good as, if not better than a Matt Hassleback.
Just has to stay healthy and get more starts.
JaJason will never amount to anything.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Yeah, Michell, we’re going to forget all about your church.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I hear the Chargers are thinking of getting rid of Drew Brees, to make room for Gradkowski?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:00 am
I agree, Raiderman. But what would Campbell have to do to get you to stop calling him “JaJason”? I see very little resemblance between him and Ja Marcus Russell, other than that their both Chinese.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Perfect landing spot for Grads would be the NYJ.
When Sanchez goes down, Grads would step in and excel.
Who is the Jet backup right now ?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Grads & Beecham could fight it out for the Redskins job.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Kell, we’re going to miss Grads if Campbell goes down. You will agree with me on that at some point today.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Oh yeah, we’ll miss Grads, terribly. He is such a great player.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I’m actually looking forward to watching a woman’s soccer game.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:21 am
73.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I’m actually looking forward to watching a woman’s soccer game.
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Is Grads playing in it?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Think I’ll go watch the game at a sushi bar.
Some unagi, scallops, salmon and tuna sounds good.
Godzilla roll when the USA scores.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
kell, we’ll miss Grads terribly if Campbell goes down. Grads certainly is “great” compared to our backups.
Kell, if Campbell goes down, where are we? Boller? You like him better than Gradkowski?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Think I’ll go watch the game at a sushi bar.
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Sushi Bar at the Indian Gaming Casino?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Boller has an NFL arm, at least. I’m fine with him.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Gradkowski didn’t have an NFL arm in Pittsburgh 2 years ago?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Nope.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:45 am
lol. How’d he beat the Super Bowl champions then? Throwing underhanded?
July 17th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I have no idea.
July 17th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Grads is no John Elway. And no doubt he throws some ducks. But I think his arm is good enough to play in the league, Kell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8bCUQcyCU
July 17th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Arm’s too weak to throw an out.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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July 17th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Footballs will be in the air soon!
All of the most difficult issues have been sorted. The attorneys are hashing-out specific language for the changes. I anticipate a Tuesday presser to announce it’s time to take the new CBA to a vote of the Players.
The NFLPA, while it was still the “Union” voice of the Players, did an amazing job of leveraging what power it had. Purchasing insurance for each Player in the event of a lockout was a brilliant move…one that added even more pressure on the Owners to get things done. The Players would at least be able to put food on the table, if not pay all their bills.
As I stated months ago, the Owners have been up against it from the start, even if they carried the bigger stick. Going to Court again was going to be costly for them. From their illegal contract to get paid even if games weren’t played (not negotiating in good faith)…to their willing disregard to protect the Players best interests in media contract talks (their fiduciary responsibilty)…to their locking-out/not allowing contact with Players no longer under contract (a collusionary practice if ever there was one)…the anti-trust issues the Owners would face in Court would’ve been devastating, even if it took awhile to get there.
It’s time to get football out of the conference room, and back on the field. The Raiders will be as well-positioned for the pre-season as almost any team. If Jason Campbell fulfills his obligation to be a better-than-average QB and leader, and the O-line allows him the protection to do so, the Raiders will have the ability to go far…even with the other questions they have at other positions.
A competent QB running a volatile Offense will be the straw that stirs this drink…and a Defense that ranks in the top-half of major statistics will seal the deal. We are close, people…so close, yet so far away. It’s time for the Raiders to get it done. Finally.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
The deep out route is a difficult throw, Kell. Not just where velocity is concerned, but accuracy as well. I don’t know of too many back up QBs in the league that are just money throwing out routes. Nor many starting QBs, including Campbell.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Kell, let’s make a pact to not read Haze’s comment, and just keep talking to each other. What do you say?
July 17th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
If there’s no mustard on the out route, if it’s jumped, there’s nobody to stop the CB from taking it to the house.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Kell, how often is the out route even used anymore? The sideline throw is always risky. Most teams use high percentage passing plays preferably, something the out route is not. In fact, the Raiders are one of the few teams who seem to live and die (usually die) by the out route, mostly via just incompletions. You’re holding Gradkowski to standards most NFL QBs aren’t held to, especially back up QBs, which is all I’m lobbying for him to be right now.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I don’t know that the out is an obsolete route.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Has Al ever brought back a player that has left the team? Just wondering.
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Ray Chester: 1970-72 & 1978-81.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Seriously the Gradkowski conversation is crazy. He’s gone, not coming back, and is a career 65 passer rating QB.
There’s absolutely no reason to spend time discussing that.
I’m on Floor Duty at the office till 1:pm, otherwise I’d be watching westerns on TV.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
We’re f’d if Campbell goes down now, Kell. That’s why I brought him up. I’m arguing for him as a backup. There was no reason to get rid of him. He didn’t cost anything. Brought us some solid results as backup. Get over it? lol. You sound like those Davis guys now who get mad when you post his record. Don’t let your hatred of Gradkowski, whatever it’s about, lead you to the dark side, Kell. Before you know it you’ll be starting your comments off by telling us it’s a great day to be a raider fan.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
I don’t hate anybody, not even Al Davis. Gradkowski can be replaced with Beecham.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
We already had Beecham, Kell. We haven’t drafted a red head out of USC since.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Gradkowski was 3-5 with the Raiders 11 TD’s – 10 int’s,
75 passer rating.
Not worth getting worked up over. Maybe they pick up a backup when the lockout ends.
The worlds not coming to an end because “Grads” is not here.
July 17th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
“getting worked up”
“worlds not coming to an end”
Just the things they say to you when you post Al’s record. I see how it is, Kell. Kell, great day to be a raider fan, isn’t it?
July 17th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
What up Nation!
I read the earlier posts about the Randy Moss possibility. Count me in. I’ll take Moss back as the vet WR we need. If his agent is right about him being in “freakish shape” and on a mission then we should definitely take a flier. We got way more weapons on offense and an actual system that Moss wouldn’t mind playing in. Plus I’m sure he would play for HueJax. If it takes opportunities away from DHB and Glass, so be it.
July 17th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Moss and Ford out wide with Murphy in the Slot + DMAC and Reece in backfield (with one of them going in motion)= 7 or 8 dirty sets of underwear on the other side of line of scrimmage.
July 17th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
I don’t believe Moss wants any part of Al Davis.
July 17th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Players looking for less contact?”
May God preserve us.
The players are looking for less contact?
Yes, that what Tatum always did, not to mention Mean Joe Greene, Matusak, et al.
Who the fuk are these guys?
July 17th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
The only way Randy Moss would even consider coming back to Oakland, is IF, the Raiders were to re-sign Bruce Gradkowski.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Grads lacks accuracy and good decision making….MR you are advocating him starting not beng a backu. You can fool some but not me. i see thru your bs
July 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Grad cant consisently do 10-15 out routes. Hell even deep ins or deep curls. Offense is limited with him in there plain and simle. Miami game put u grad di^k suckers to rest becuz they barely blitzed and dared his arm to beat them. Damn shame an NFL qb cant beat a 3 man rush. to this day grad lovers refuse to address this issue
July 17th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
The only way Randy Moss would even consider coming back to Oakland, is IF, the Raiders were to re-sign Bruce Gradkowski.
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My uneducated guess would tell me Moss would also like Mr Al Davis to consider the re-hiring of former Oakland Raider head coach Tom Cable just in case Moss has any problems with players and/or coaches Cable could punch’em.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Grad wants to be starter and will cause trouble in locker room. His lobbying to play will continue. Starting grad ruined our division title. No way can we bring a guy like that back. Some in here talk about distraction Chad would bring….lol grad is worse becuz we talkin the qb spot. No to grad as backup
July 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
I wouldn’t piss in Randy Moss’s face if his eyes were on fire.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Cable is a loser and was happy to be head coach. Didnt want to win. Wanted to bring his hookers on road trips. Glad he is gone and fk Moss. chad will do much better for us
July 17th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Just Win…..yeah damn randy! he quit on us. I aint lettin it go
July 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Man the A’s early 80s throwbacks rule on Mc Hammer day……Angels cant touch that!
July 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Anyhow yall be cool…..Bauce bout to mess up some Italian food and think about hittin up the city or b-town for reggae night……outro
July 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Just thinking out loud here…I would love to see a vet WR but I think the priorities are
O-Line
Back up QB
Anything else would be a bonus.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Al Davis Loud boisterous man
John Rauch Quiet soft spoken man
John Madden Loud
Tom Flores Quiet
Mike Shanahan Loud
Art Shell Quiet
Mike White Loud
Joe Bugel Quiet
Jon Gruden Loud
Bill Callahan Quiet
Norv Turner Loud
Art Shell Quiet
Lane Kiffin Quiet (heres where Al
Changes up)
Tom Cable Hip Hip Hoooray!
Hue Jackson In Your Face
The pattern is broken and the weight is gone. This is the year the Raiders are back.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Tom Flores 2 Rings
Jim Plunkett 2 Rings
July 17th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
1st time poster just want to drop in and say hi, go raiders!
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
BAUCE you hitting the DOWNLOW in Berkeley for Reggae????
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just want everyone to know if it wasn’t for Al Davis there would be no Oakland Raiders. Get over it.
July 17th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/764626-oakland-raiders-improve-offense-with-the-freak-bruce-campbell#/articles/767447-raiders-outlook-oakland-wont-be-pushed-around-any-longer
July 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
118.OakAl Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just want everyone to know if it wasn’t for Al Davis there would be no Oakland Raiders. Get over it.
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I’m pretty sure that the team already existed before AL was hired as Head Coach and GM. Just saying.
July 17th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Giants still playing torture baseball…win with a suicide squeeze!
July 17th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
115.just commitment to pride and poise excellence Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Tom Flores 2 Rings
Jim Plunkett 2 Rings
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And yet neither in the Hall–along with Stabler, Branch and a whole lot of other Raiders.
July 17th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
118.OakAl Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just want everyone to know if it wasn’t for Al Davis there would be no Oakland Raiders. Get over it.
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Get over what?
We all know who created this team.
However, there isn’t a man on the face of the earth who can do at 82 what he did when younger.
It’s about eight years overdue for Al to hire a GM.
July 17th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
John Madden:
Youngest coach in “69
Super Bowl
HOF
Most Raider wins as HC.
Ulcer
One of the best commentators
Madden football video games.
July 17th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
What are the odds of Mankins wearing silver and black?
July 17th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
What are the odds of Mankins wearing silver and black?
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Probably equal to Randy Moss’ chances.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
John Madden:
Youngest coach in “69
Super Bowl
HOF
Most Raider wins as HC.
Ulcer
One of the best commentators
Madden football video games.
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Has his own bus.
July 17th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
John Madden:
Youngest coach in “69
Super Bowl
HOF
Most Raider wins as HC.
Ulcer
One of the best commentators
Madden football video games.
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Has his own bus.
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Introduced america to the turduckin
July 17th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
118.OakAl Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just want everyone to know if it wasn’t for Al Davis there would be no Oakland Raiders. Get over it.
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Effin grow up. Is this the most astute observation you can make? Seriously, you Al acolytes are some of the dimmest folks I’ve ever read.
July 17th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
ohioraider Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Raiders for life Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
118.OakAl Says:
July 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Just want everyone to know if it wasn’t for Al Davis there would be no Oakland Raiders. Get over it.
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Effin grow up. Is this the most astute observation you can make? Seriously, you Al acolytes are some of the dimmest folks I’ve ever read.
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Thank ya. Thank ya very much. No problemo, just makin sure the haters know who’s the boss. Thank ya. Thank ya very much.
July 17th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Man this lock out has got to end soon or this blog is going to need a cleansing, cause the place is really starting to stink.
Randy Moss coming to Oakland? Really? That stinks pretty bad, and Brett Farve? Dude may have more baggage than a bell boy. T.O., ask yourself, do we really need him? Come on man, just say no. This year could be the best in a long long time and we don’t need anybody trying to steal the spotlight.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Bauce I got your Miami Gradkowski answer. He was hurt, and while he shouldn’t have been in the game the coaching staff felt so bad about JC they started Bruce instead. That ought to tell you something about Campbell right there. I hope he has a great year, but the hot and really f’n cold has to quit. Without a good backup to Jason we are at his mercy, and we may just be f’ed.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Good Morning Nation!
Not sure what happened yesterday, but…USA was up 2-1 last I saw…oh well!
Breakfast and coffee on me this morning guys…
Gabby, you know what to do…
July 18th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Just Commitment,
Lane Kiffin was quiet?
ARE YOU HIGH?
Why do you think he was fired? Kiffin was in the players’ faces from the get to. Not only that, he was in the organization’s face, to boot. Calling them out constantly to the public, for being too satisfied with small victories, not blitzing on defense, and various other things. Why do you think Al sent Rob Ryan to a bizarre press conference explaining his role on defense? It was in response to Kiffin’s accusations that Rob Ryan was a useless tool whose headset wasn’t even plugged in. Kiffin had a bigger sack than any Raider coach in history. Kiffin quiet. OMG. I’ve heard it all here now.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Jerry says:
“Whatever restrictions are put upon camp and contact, it shouldn’t affect the Raiders much.”
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Now that Cable’s gone maybe but isn’t it true the Raiders LOST PRACTICES SEVERAL times in recent years over complaints of excessive contact?!
July 18th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Hue Jackson is a lot like Kiffin and Gruden and perhaps even smarter, because he seems to get the part about kissing Al’s ass. But that of course means more Al involvement. Best case scenario is that is that Hue, with Al’s non stop involvement, takes a few years to turn things around. Because no doubt he can do it. Likely scenario is that the team improves steadily, but not fast enough for Al. I know I predicted 5-11 before, because with Al involved, there’s no prediction too low. 0-16 is a reasonable prognosis when you have Al at the helm. But honestly, I think we’ll be 9-7 this year, and miss the playoffs by one game. Problem is, I think we’ll do the same next year, and Hue will be gone. If he were to be given a 3rd year, we’d blow up Gruden style. 12-4. But Hue won’t get that much time. If Hue’s just shining Al on and eventually ignores him, and does what he wants once training camp opens, like Kiffin did, Al will be busting out the overhead projector again in January.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:44 am
raiderfankirk Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Bauce I got your Miami Gradkowski answer. He was hurt, and while he shouldn’t have been in the game the coaching staff felt so bad about JC they started Bruce instead. That ought to tell you something about Campbell right there. I hope he has a great year, but the hot and really f’n cold has to quit. Without a good backup to Jason we are at his mercy, and we may just be f’ed.
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People forget just how horrible Campbell was in the beginning. Slipped up and admited he was struggling with the playbook(!) early on but have to admit, he was better as he season progressed thanks in large part to a healthy DMC, play calling that catered to player strength and catching some teams in transistion or dinged up.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:44 am
That is correct Nnamdi.
While Cable got a lot of flack on here for his scripted “walk-throughs” to start training camp, he did on the same hand have his players complain to the union that his practices were to physical and broke the rules, thus we lost actual days of camp.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Real Madden RAIDER is back. What a hack. I’m audi till the night crew.
Lates bishes
July 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
There’s plenty of speculation that Denver will trade Orton. If they do that would be my number 1 FA. I would trade a number 1anyday for a proven player in his prime. Orton reminds me of Gannon.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:47 am
The truth scares the meek and timid.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:51 am
The whole idea of T-blow being the Donkeys QB is hilarious.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:52 am
A #1 pick for Kyle Orton?????
That’s not going to happen.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
So who’s snaps would a guy like Chad Johnson or Plaxico take?
Do you really think there is a starting WR spot open?
Would 85 or Burress come to the Raiders if they weren’t starting?
Can’t see it.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Why wouldn’t Plaxico or Ocho start if they were here? They’re better than any receivers on our roster.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Unless Chaz gets hurt real soon, I can’t see us bringing in a WR.
Ford is going to get more snaps that he did last year, and I just don’t see the DHB experiment being over quite yet.
I’d take 85 or Burress over Chaz, but the question is will the owner see it that way.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:06 am
IMO Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so he will not pursue any free agents at that position.
I am guessing he will sign an experienced backup QB first once this lockout is over.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Most productive # 1 in resent years is DMAC and one out of three years and I believe he will be a FA next year. Paided him a ton of cash and if he stays healthy we’ll have to pay him a ton to keep next year. I’m glad he turned out to be a good pick. However I think Seymour was a better first rounder. Got two seasons early, made an impact from day one. I would much rather get a proven player than pick a guy that I hope is going to be really good.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:12 am
The Broncos will probably get more compensation for Orton than what the Redskins got for Campbell.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:14 am
So you guys survived carmaggedon huh JHill??
July 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Just heard someone on ESPN say Nnamdi may get 20 million a year.
LMFAO!
Who the eff is going to pay a 30 CB TWICE what Revis is getting???!!!???
July 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
And Tim Tebow will be twice the QB Kyle Orton ever was.
I am non-too thrilled with having to face Tebow twice a year. He scares me more for 2011 more than Rivers and Cassel.
Fear of the unknown I guess. I think we have started to figure out Rivers a little (he has 6 turnovers against us his last 4 games) and Cassel never fears me.
Meanwhile, in Jesus’ first career start (on the road) he had 2 TD’s, no turnovers, and a 100+ QB rating. He is the first QB IN NFL HISTORY, to have a rushing TD and passing TD in each of his first 3 starts.
Soup has to outplay him week 1.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
On the other side of So Cal, JFB.
No traffic issues in the IE.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
I think the Bucs will toss a ton of cash at Nnamdi.
I don’t know about 20 per, but I wouldn’t be suprised if he got a 5 year $89 million contract, and became the highest-paid defensive player ever.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Did you run off AIG??
July 18th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Brandon Lloyd is a FA and they are thinking about cutting Moreno.
I will say this …
If Vince Young can start and be productive in this league, Tim Tebow certainly can.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
LOL …
Did he flake on your golf outting too?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:28 am
All the more reason to clean out his locker and replace him.
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J Hill Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Just heard someone on ESPN say Nnamdi may get 20 million a year.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
JHill, what do you care how much other teams are willing to pay Nnamdi? It’s their money! They can do what they want with it. Imagine if you owned a business. Would you let someone tell you how much to pay your employees, or who to hire? The other owners and GMs around the league are going to do things their way, Hill. Get over it. Find another sports league to watch. You’re just jealous of them, because you aren’t a GM, or don’t own a team. How many Super Bowl trophies do you have? Yeah. That’s what I thought.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Now that #21 has 1 foot out the door I can focus on the other under achiever that gets a free ride in here. He costs us 2-3 games a year, every year.
SeaPerch, your back in my cross hairs you fat phuk
July 18th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I guess I have to hunt him down on facebook.
He made some wall posting that he just learned the proper grip of a golf club, and had been doing it wrong for all these years.
I guess all the bicep curls affected his grip, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
147.Silverandblack666 Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:06 am
IMO Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so he will not pursue any free agents at that position.
I am guessing he will sign an experienced backup QB first once this lockout is over.
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Agreed with you on the WR thing.
Not so much on the backup QB thing. I think Hue is comfortable with Boeller as the #2.
Gawd damn it if I don’t smell prior with a 5th in the supp draft.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Would you let someone tell you how much to pay your employees, or who to hire?
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Doesn’t sound like an advocation for unions on your part.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:35 am
T-blow scares me less than just about any QB in the league. Rivers certainly scares me more. You stop Philip with pass rush he’s not running any where. You stop Tim with contain. Would like to see McClain spying him. Only thing that scares me is that Rolando might body slam him and his backup might come in.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
JFB, I’m just saying. Why does JHill care so much about where NFL teams spend their money? IT’S THEIR TEAM! Hello!!! They can do what they want with it. Imagine owning your own business, and someone else telling you who to hire and what to pay them. These owners and GMs want to win, badly. Passionately. Their teams are their baby. And they’re going to spend whatever it takes to get the players THEY want. If JHill doesn’t like it, there’s plenty of other sports leagues for him to watch. Frankly, I think he’s just jealous. He’s obsesses with the other owners! Let’s see him do it!!! His hatred for NFL owners and GMs consumes him.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
KoolKell went Al Davis “boot-licker” on us last night, by saying he is happy with Kyle Boller as the #2 because of his “arm-strength”.
No concern with the fact he has three times as many turnovers as TD’s since the end of 2007.
Hey, at least he can throw an out-pattern, lol!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I told Kell he was using the same terminology to refute my arguments as the Davis minions do. Funny we can fancy our selves to be so independent minded. But we all have a soft spot, and at some point we let on what it is. Now look at JHill. He can’t stand it when people mock Al’s ridiculous overspending on lame players, because it’s Al’s team and he can do what he wants, etc. But when another team’s rumored to overpay one of the best cornerbacks in the game, suddenly he’s Mr. Realistic speculator.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Your going to pay for that comment. You will be labeled a racist and nazi.
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Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
KoolKell went Al Davis “boot-licker” on us last nigh
July 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:30 am
JHill, what do you care how much other teams are willing to pay Nnamdi?
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I don’t care.
These teams can give Nnamdi half the team if they want to. I’m more concerned with the pass rush.
I think we will be just fine at CB.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Tim Tebow set or tied a bunch of NFL records last year with his starts:
100.5 QB rating was the highest ever for a QB in their first road start.
Longest rushing TD by a QB ever in his first start.
3rd QB in NFL history to have a 30+ yard passing TD and a 40+ yard rushing TD in the same game. He did it in his first ever start.
Only QB in NFL history with a rushing TD and passing TD in each of his first 3 starts.
6 rushing TD’s most in NFL history for a rookie QB.
He also broke a zillion records while in college. Not sure why I am the only it seems fearful of this, but hey I guess that’s just me.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:45 am
JHill, it’s about time you got over your envy and jealousy of the other owners and GMs around the league. It was so obvious that you’re just jealous because they have a team and you don’t.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Damn ..
Raider has me on his mind today, huh?
Just get it right, will ya?
I could give a rats arsse if Snyder, Jones, or Al effin Davis gave ANY player the farm to get them on the team.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Just reported on pft that Orton most likely will be available for a third. That ain’t bad. I’d be all over it like white on rice.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:51 am
171.RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:45 am
JHill, it’s about time you got over your envy and jealousy of the other owners and GMs around the league. It was so obvious that you’re just jealous because they have a team and you don’t.
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LOLOLOLOL …
You know, you’re right
Money isn’t everything.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:52 am
In 3 years from now Teblow will be just like Matt Leinart…looking for a job as a backup somewhere.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:53 am
JHill, I’m just saying. I’m glad you’re over your bitterness and jealousy of the other owners. You were criticizing another team for offering Nnamdi a lot of money. You’re just jealous because you don’t own a team. You see, it’s just like when one of us criticizes Al. We’re only doing it because we’re jealous and obsessed with him. Well, now you’re doing it to other owners. Let them run their business how they want to. Get a life of your own and don’t worry about what other teams are going to pay Nnamdi.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:54 am
To you political guys out there …
What do you know about TORT reform?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Did you see Tebow rocking the orange pants at the Tahoe golf tournament? He looked like he escaped from prison. Elway was letting it all out, too. Wearing the sky blue grandpa slacks. Going for the whole Ted Knight Caddyshack look.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Some things don’t change with these Bengals do they.
3 arrests in 4 days??? What’s wrong with these dudes!!!
John Saunders killed PacMan on sports reporters on Sunday. Had me cracking up.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Not sure why I am the only it seems fearful of this, but hey I guess that’s just me.
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He may get some stats and make some plays, but Dungver as a team is terrible.
I think I may have a bit more faith in our front 7 than you do.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Who’s Tort?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Tort reform is one more attempt by big businesses to get around any accountability whatsoever. That’s what it said on my cereal box this morning.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Raider, I’m just saying. I’m glad you’re over your bitterness and jealousy of Al Davis. You were criticizing Al Davis for several things. You’re just jealous because you don’t own the Raiders. You see, it’s just like when one of us criticizes other owners. We’re only doing it because we’re jealous and obsessed with them. Well, now you’re doing it to Al Davis. Let him run his business how he wants to. Get a life of your own and don’t worry about what Al Davis does with the Raiders!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I think the only way Denver beats us is if Tebow plays real well.
He will have to carry that team if they will be any good.
I worry about Tebow, and Dumervil and Von Miller off the edge with that crowd noise against our tackles in week 1.
As long as we don’t let Tebow go ape-ish on us, and Soup doesn’t just choke, we should get that victory.
FYI, we are 1 point underdogs currently in Vegas.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Is it really true that the US Chamber of Commerce has a different set of rules when it comes to campaign contributions?
Anyone????
Anyone?????
July 18th, 2011 at 9:11 am
the Raiders have had some tackling issues for the last several years. The dilemma is in shoring up that area without actually tackling.
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Let’s hope Chuck B, Greg Biekert & Rod Woodson do a better job than John Marshall, Mike Haluchak & Lionel Washington, because the same STARTING front seven on defense are all coming back
it’s the same players in run support. They just have to play better (how many times have we heard that before?)
July 18th, 2011 at 9:12 am
A rookie in his first NFL game and a guy comong off major knee surgery???
Cmon man, give our OTs just a bit of credit.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:14 am
and Soup doesn’t just choke
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Here you go with that buhhhhllshhhh again.
You just want the guy to fail, lol!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:14 am
JHill, you can’t copy my gotcha strategy. come on, man. There has to be a code of honor amongst internet trolls, or something. You just can’t do that.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Dumervil and Von Miller off the edge with that crowd noise against our tackles in week 1.
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Dumber-ville is coming off of a major injury and the Donks have switched back to a 4-3 defense under John Fox & DC Dennis Allen (former Saints DB coach)
I don’t expect more than 1 sack from Elvis on Veldy, but Miller vs. Barksdale or Campbell might be a horror show!
Tebow is the X factor
July 18th, 2011 at 9:15 am
If we lose to Denver, it will be because Soup choked?
July 18th, 2011 at 9:16 am
That’s right, JHill. The only departments of government that are untrustworthy are the ones that regulate businesses. You can trust the military, homeland security, DEA, etc. All on the up and up.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:17 am
189.RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 9:14 am
JHill, you can’t copy my gotcha strategy. come on, man. There has to be a code of honor amongst internet trolls, or something. You just can’t do that.
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LMFAO!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:19 am
182.RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Tort reform is one more attempt by big businesses to get around any accountability whatsoever. That’s what it said on my cereal box this morning.
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I agree. Instead there should be a process that would impose a severe fine on anyone who brings forth a lawsuit which is entirely without merit. Once the case is thrown out in the early stages a hearing would take place during which the plaintiff would have to demonstrate to the Court that there was at least some reasonable grounds for a lawsuit. If they fail then both the plaintiff and the attorney who took the case would be subject to large fines.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Soup doesn’t just choke
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JCamp had 442 passing yards, 3 TD’s and 2 INT’s in 2 starts against Dungver last season. He was sacked twice. He had 6 rush attempts for 56 yards
27/46 = 58 % completion percentage
QB Rating in the first game = 128
QB Rating in the second game = 69
July 18th, 2011 at 9:22 am
it’s the same players in run support. They just have to play better (how many times have we heard that before?)
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Well I think it is finally realistic to think they will play better. The issue is no longer talent, but simply experience.
ShoNasty, Houston, McClain, Wimbley, and Groves were all first year starters at their positions. Those guys are WAY better than the talent we had at their respective positions in past seasons we hoped they “played better.”
July 18th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Soup has looked at his worst in his NFL career, in season-openers.
The Tennesse game last year was about as bad as he looked in Silver and Black last year. Maybe the 49ers game was worse but that is about it.
You look at his career, and he has a positive TD-turnover ratio.
In season-openers? 3 TD’s to 7 turnovers. Points per game, 16, 7, 17, 13.
Not going to get it done. You want to look at ways for Soup to improve on his career, and last season, season-opener is an obvious first-step.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Florzell Adams could be cut, good pickup at RT? He can also play guard…
How about Ike Taylor at CB, we know the guy can tackle and is physical.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
US Chamber of Commerce is not a part of the government.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Silver,
Tebow is probably the furthest thing from Matt Leinart
I’d say he’s like Randall Cunningham with a better arm and less athleticism or Kurt Warner with a weaker arm and more mobility
July 18th, 2011 at 9:24 am
The problem with that is, Dakota, is that of course the wealthiest will just lobby and lobby until they widen the guidelines for such a law that punishes frivolous lawsuits. Give it a decade, and suing a company for decapitating you will be considered frivolous.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:26 am
The Tennesse game last year was about as bad as he looked in Silver and Black last year. Maybe the 49ers game was worse but that is about it
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Watching some of the low-lights of that game, the tennessee D-Line were already in the backfield when our O-Line were getting out of their stance. Not sure if it was the O-Line had a rough day or Campbell was giving up the count….
July 18th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Florzell Adams could be cut, good pickup at RT? He can also play guard…
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@Dutch
if we’re looking for an old fat guy that can’t move or be moved to play guard, why not just re-sign Langston Walker?
Barnes, Henderson, Veldheer & Barksdale is good enough at tackle imo (Maybe Campbell gets a shot there, too?)
Either way, I’ll pass on Slozell!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Dakota Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 9:19 am
182.RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Tort reform is one more attempt by big businesses to get around any accountability whatsoever. That’s what it said on my cereal box this morning.
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I agree.
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Well you guys better start some counter propoganda, and fast.
It’s full steam ahead with taking the Civil courts and punitive damages completely outta play.
Classic case of sheep being lead astray, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Tim Tebow set or tied a bunch of NFL records last year with his starts:
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JFB,
you’re not alone.
Tebow (rookie) produced 7 TD’s in 3 starts last year
JCamp (6 year vet) only produced 7 TD’s heading into Week 13 @ San Diego
July 18th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Raiderfankirk…..u gotta be joking me lol. Dont blame it on him being hurt. JC was hurt last year and Hue admitted as such. What YOU FAIL to realize is miami would have dogged Grad if he was 100 pct. No team ever in 3-4 is gonna rush 3 guys predominantly on any qb unless they know he sucks. That injury excuse is bullschit. I was told SD was gonna play exact same D week 13! But just like first game knowing JC WOULD PLAY LOWERED THEIR CONFIDENCE….WONDER WHY?
July 18th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I’m more concerned with the pass rush.
I think we will be just fine at CB.
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Jhill,
I’m not concerned about the pass rush or the secondary.
I’m worried about stuffing the run (for the 9th consecutive year) and the passing O (Campbell, O-line, WR’s)
July 18th, 2011 at 9:34 am
201.RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 9:24 am
The problem with that is, Dakota, is that of course the wealthiest will just lobby and lobby until they widen the guidelines for such a law that punishes frivolous lawsuits. Give it a decade, and suing a company for decapitating you will be considered frivolous.
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Not true.
As long as you have 12 citizens deciding what’s right and what’s wrong, it will usually come out as it should in a civil matter.
A big part of TORT reform is the mandatory arbitration. In essence, giving up your right to even go to court.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:34 am
the tennessee D-Line were already in the backfield when our O-Line were getting out of their stance. Not sure if it was the O-Line had a rough day or Campbell was giving up the count….
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Not sure if I would expect that to improve a ton, going into a rowdy MNF crowd, and in Denver which has a 8,000 seat capacity advantage over Tennessee.
Throw in possibly a rookie RT for us, and a top 3 pass-rusher for them, and we could something fairly similar to last year.
Hope Soup has his dancing shoes ready!!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
I’m worried about stuffing the run
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Could you be a bit more specific?
July 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Looking at seating capacities for NFL stadiums, Raiders have the second-lowest in the league (Bears have the lowest).
July 18th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Raiderfankirk….you talk about staff decision tellin me something….u damn right it did….they were stupid as fk! Didnt learn first lesson and it fked up our season. Players were pissed too about it. They panicked again after pitt loss. We didnt have the line play to deal with them especially after they got hammered at home on SNF week before….come on. It was worse than the Az and Hou games to bench him week 12
July 18th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I think Hue is comfortable with Boller as the #2.
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I hope you guys are wrong!
If we don’t draft Pryor or sign Edwards or T-Jax in FA, I have a bad feeling about this.
That means we’re cool with Frye or Gradkowski joining KB as Campbell’s back ups imo *puke*
July 18th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Jhill…what more specifics do u really need? Our run def has to be a concern bexuz its sucked since 03
July 18th, 2011 at 9:40 am
China
July 18th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Miami blitzed in the first half, and Bruce schooled them on the TD throw to Ford, which gave us a lead at halftime.
Sparano and company just flat-out schooled Hue and company in the second-half with their half-time adjustments.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:41 am
RRS…..im not cool with Grad on my roster. Guy like that will cause trouble again and we dont need it
July 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
How can Frye even be considered in the QB rotation?
Didn’t he go on IR last year, before camp and any contact??
I guess you don’t plan on your #3 QB to play much, but I’m not even sure he can make through a few reps in practice without hurting himself.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Not sure if I would expect that to improve a ton, going into a rowdy MNF crowd
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Look here …
Our Oline is going to be BEASTLY compared to opening day last year.
Veldheer year 2 = better than Mario Henderson
Savage = twice the OG Gallery ever was
Wiz = upgrade over Veldheer
Beast = physical stud compared to Carlisle
Henderson/Barksdale = upgrade over 380lb Walker
July 18th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Haha Bruce schooled nobody with that loopy lucky ass pass. I said predominantly Vegas…..throught that game a 3-4 barely blitzed us. I sat live and couldnt believe it
July 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Could you be a bit more specific?
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Hmmm
eliminating the big rushing plays
being more consistent (no taking plays off)
gap discipline & proper angles
wrap and take to the ground
attack the L.O.S. and create negative yardage
force turnovers
I’m not a coach, but I things these things would go a long way towards solving the problem.
If not, it’s a personnel issue
July 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Who’s idea was it to have Bruce take a 7 step roll-out and try to throw a 45 yard sideline pass over a cover 2 in the Miami game??
Anybody in here would know that Bruce can’t make that throw? Why on earth would Hue even call that play?? And don’t give me the “Ford was open” theory either. Of course he was open, just like teams leave NBA centers wide-open on the perimeter.
Talk about playing right into the hands of the defense.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Who knows who the 3rd qb is…..maybe tavaris jackson…..u know how Al is
July 18th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Vegas….hue banked his season on grad so why wouldnt he has guts to call that play? It was a must win at home you had to go all out…..in theory lol
July 18th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Sparano and company just flat-out schooled Hue and company in the second-half with their half-time adjustments.
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Wrong again.
Marshall lost the Miami game.
His 3rd down play calling had to be some of the worst chess playing I’ve seen.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:48 am
But that was last season….cant keep harping on that I guess with new season around the corner. I just dont want Bruce back or it will cause some more BS
July 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Marshall lost that game? Jhill the offense had one td and that was becuz of a lucky loop pass lol. Miami turned ball and missed FGs. Hue and cable playing Grad cost us that game
July 18th, 2011 at 9:50 am
It was a must win at home you had to go all out
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Doesn’t mean you throw logic out the window.
Now, I will blame Grads a lot on that throw as well. Not for the actual throw, but for the decision.
That was the big issue with Bruce, he had the little-man complex and always felt like he had to prove something. It was first and 10, we just got a big turnover and a nice run to move into their side of the field.
Bruce HAS to check out of that ridiculously-stupid play call, or tuck that ball and run, as he could have jogged for at least 6-7 yards, and live to see another play.
Just flat-out stupidity by Hue and Bruce. Sparano must have thought it was amateur-hour.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
eliminating the big rushing plays
being more consistent (no taking plays off)
gap discipline & proper angles
wrap and take to the ground
attack the L.O.S. and create negative yardage
force turnovers
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Wow, 6 different things?
Well I’ve been told that a fat NT solves our issues with stopping the run. Sounds like that may be a bit easier than fixing all that stuff you mention.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
RRS….im concerned too. We gonna pray Seymour learns how to play the NT spot vs run and Kelly shoows a pulse vs the RG
July 18th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Marshall lost the Miami game.
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Marshall isn’t part of “Hue and company”?
And that stage last year, Cable was getting whacked on his paychecks and was a dead-man walking. That was Hue’s team at that point, for the most part.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Jhill….not any fat guy but someone with a track record of it
July 18th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Just score 40 points per game, that will solve our run D issues.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Vegas i agree with ya on the little man complex….thats exactly what he has and that aint cool
July 18th, 2011 at 9:54 am
How can Frye even be considered in the QB rotation?
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the guy had a pretty impressive college resume. He’s only 29 years old and he’s entering Year #3 with the club. He was our most accurate QB in 2009 and also in last year’s camp (according to Jerry). He’ll cost next to nothing and he knows the offense. Not injury prone like Gradkowski. A wrist injury is pretty serious for a QB and takes 5 months to recover from. He’s 100 percent right now. He wasn’t offered an injury settlement and sent packing like Jay Richardson or Jarrod Cooper
July 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
B,
I guess it all depends on what you are looking at.
I saw COUNTLESS 3rd and 6 or betters converted and their SCORING drives. MOST of those 3rd down conversions involved the same LAME arsse double safety blitz from the outside. The exact same blitz, in the exact same down and distance keeps getting beat, I expect an adjustment.
I guarantee you that was the game that got Marshall fired.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:56 am
lucky-loop pass.
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That was a perfectly thrown ball, into the perfect coverage. Read the blitz and the D, threw the ball to where only Ford could catch it, and there was no over the top help.
Great read and throw. Unfortunately, it was about the only one of the day, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:56 am
I’ve been told that a fat NT solves our issues with stopping the run. Sounds like that may be a bit easier than fixing all that stuff you mention
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Jhill,
so be it. sign Fat Albert!
July 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
sign Fat Albert!
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On record that he is not at NT and will never play that position.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Not injury prone like Gradkowski. A wrist injury is pretty serious for a QB and takes 5 months to recover from.
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Frye has been here two years.
Year 1, he played one half in Denver, and got blasted and a concussion. They showed him on the bench, and it didn’t look like he blinked for 5 minutes. Later against the Ravens, he made it all of one half again, and had to leave due to some groin thing.
Year 2, he doesn’t even make INTO training camp and is IR’d for the year.
Dude is as injury-prone as any QB I ever seen wear Silver and Black!!!
Just make him assistant QB coach already, and move on.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Just score 40 points per game, that will solve our run D issues
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Campbell/Boller at QB
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale at O-Line
DHB-Murphy-Ford-Moore-Schilens at WR
yeah. no problem !!!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Fat Albert has already made his pay day… that dude will be out of football soon.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Jhill ive said before we got manhandled that day no doubt my friend. Im merely poiting out that starting grad divided the team. Marshall is a 49er coach….hell u expect? lol
July 18th, 2011 at 10:02 am
241.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Just score 40 points per game, that will solve our run D issues
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Campbell/Boller at QB
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Barksdale at O-Line
DHB-Murphy-Ford-Moore-Schilens at WR
yeah. no problem !!!
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Yep, Easy Peasey!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:03 am
he is not at NT and will never play that position
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Haynesworth was a 4-3 NT for the Titans (and during his first season with the Skins) and a 3-4 DE for the Redskins last year under Shanny, which was why he complained so much, took the fines and played when he wanted to
July 18th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I don’t know about dividing the team.
If that is so, especially if true of offensive players, than I have little faith in Hue’s ability to lead a team and manage men.
Soup didn’t play well and got benched. It turned out to be the wrong decision, but a decision was made and players aren’t paid to make decisions.
Any offensive player who whined, felt-divided or helped be divisive, should be cut immediately.
Sack up and play!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Jhill…..um in a 4-3 haynesworth is not a UT….i hope u know this
July 18th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Year 1, he played one half in Denver, and got blasted and a concussion. They showed him on the bench, and it didn’t look like he blinked for 5 minutes. Later against the Ravens, he made it all of one half again, and had to leave due to some groin thing.
Year 2, he doesn’t even make INTO training camp and is IR’d for the year.
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Year #1 you “forgot” to mention the game where he passed for over 300 yards against Cleveland and he looked pretty darn good against Baltimore
Year #2 he was placed on I.R on August 19th (didn’t make it to camp?) You need to go re-read Jerry Mac’s training camp tweets from last season!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Again, I said this last-year during the Haynesworth saga.
SI did a piece on him after he stomped on the dudes head and was set to come back.
I will never forget when the writer asked Haynesworth if he loved the game.
His answer? “If the money is right”.
Uhhhh…no thanks.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:06 am
Vegas….come on jc played bad as entire team did vs pitt…..but before that he wont 4 of 5 games….that doesnt count for anything? That was an awful move
July 18th, 2011 at 10:07 am
So RRS …
Tomorrow, players are voting to ratify the new CBA and will get their union back together.
All 32 teams including key executives are right now being told to be at the owners meetings on Thursday to vote on the new deal and get educated on the new rules.
Both sides are working to roll the 3 lawsuits into on settlement by tmw.
Still not buying we will have football next week?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Why should they be cut VR? You realize teams want to win and u cant keep changing qbs if u want that. The spin velocity, angle or what have you on a pass in different and u cant keep adjusting like that and get continuity down
July 18th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Ok well….Frye didn’t make it out of camp, lol.
Not like he was a pillar of health in his previous NFL stops either.
Some guys just know how to take a hit better than others. Frye is not one of those guys.
(Soup is actually pretty decent at this, sliding away from the crux of the blow last minute).
July 18th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I am so pizzed at those chicks for losing the world cup game! HOW COULD THEY!!!!!!!!!! CHOKERS!!!!! D@MN IT ALL TO HELLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!I FEEL WORSE THAN WHEN THE RAIDERS LOST THE SB TO TB!!!!!!!!!!!
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTT
July 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Haynesworth use to be my guy for us to get but negga too crazy now
July 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Still not buying we will have football next week?
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Nope.
I’ll believe it when they allow players into the facility
for the record, BCZ said “next week” last week – which means this week.
You’re adding an extra week by saying “next week” this week …
July 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
RRS….never seen ya so pessimistic man
July 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
This is one of the best posts I have seen in here about JC and Gradkowski:
Just Fire Baby Says:
To me, there is no difference between someone taking shots at Campbell or Gradkowski.
Campbell was brought in to be the starter and the next Jim Plunkett. Gradkowski was brought in to hold a clipboard for Jamarcus. Two completely set of circumstances and expectations.
Yet, Mistic1 loves to call people imposters, yet continually takes shots at Gradkowski and RAIDER FANS who appreciated what he did here.
We paid him beans, got some solid backup QB play from him, he has never said anything bad about Jason Campbell, Al Davis, Hue Jackson or Raider Nation. Does all kinds of charitable stuff in Oakland, and has repeatedly said Raider Nation has the best fans.
Yet we have this imposter fan on here who can’t resist ridiculing a guy who actually won games in the Silver and Black.
The true definition of an imposter fan.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
UT, Smooh T
You are looking for a guy who will clog the middle, take up blockers, and free up guys to make plays.
Haynesworth said he does not want to do that.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:12 am
256.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Still not buying we will have football next week?
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Nope.
I’ll believe it when they allow players into the facility
for the record, BCZ said “next week” last week – which means this week.
You’re adding an extra week by saying “next week” this week …
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Damn that sounds like Dems claiming that spending cuts made 10 years from now really mean something!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:13 am
JFB,
Frye is everything you love about Gradkowski
except he’s not italian, didn’t cheat in college, doesn’t have a noodle arm, didn’t school the Steelers and doesn’t have a little man complex
he’s the film junkie, weight room guy. good for the locker room. like having a coach on the field, blah blah blah
July 18th, 2011 at 10:13 am
for the record, BCZ said “next week” last week – which means this week.
You’re adding an extra week by saying “next week” this week …
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Who’s on 2nd?
I wasn’t in that debate so I’m not adding anything. I simply asked if you thought we would miss some training camp or games?
Looks like the only thing that may be in jeopardy is the HOF game.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Go get Orton. Playoffs.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:15 am
IMO….i believe the DE SPOT will be the main strength of the defense. Matt and Lamarr with Scott and Wimbley subbing should unleash hell on the edges. This makes for fumbles and errant throws that lead to big hits and INTs. you wont miss Huff or Aso if the edge rushers can gain near 25-30 sacks
July 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Get it right Rock. I said I HEARD the CBA would be ratified and FA could start as early as this coming friday. I NEVER said they would definitely have football this week and set that in stone. I dont know why you keep pointing to me like I am the guy who started the lockout and the guy who is going to lift it. The timeline i heard this morning has FA opening next monday, after the teams have this coming weekend to resign their own FAs. Feel free to continue your pessimism, and make sure to remind everybody here everytime the lockout is mentioned that its MY fault there is no football yet because it was all ME who said there would be.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
I disagree with you RRS the only thing Teblow has in common with Kurt Warner is they are both Jesus freaks.
Here is a list of GREAT college QB’s that won the Heisman:
Troy Smith
Matt Leinart
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
I put Teblow in that list as well and I personally think his NFL career will be similar to those mentioned.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Jhill….haynesworth doesnt mind taking on double teams its in the 3-4 he doesnt like it
July 18th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Kyle Orton? Lol not conducive with our offensive scheme
July 18th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Bcz….next week for sure….ima drop something on yall right now
July 18th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Problem with the Pittsburgh game last year was coaching plain and simple. New England exposed them and with two weeks to prepare. Our coaches said we’re gonna do what we do. Instead of doing what we needed to do.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Gradkowski = Italian??
Never heard of this!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:23 am
That would be hella funny if the owners aren’t even close to ending the lockout. Watching all of these espn guys retract their blindly optimistic reporting. I hope the players don’t agree to one single term. Hold out as long as it takes. American labor needs to put up a fight for a change.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Troy Smith
Matt Leinart
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
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The only person on that list who is even in the same atmosphere as an athlete with Tebow, would probably be Eric Crouch.
Tebow is bigger, faster, stronger and has a way stronger arm than those guys.
Tebow is a quick-release away from being a Pro Bowl QB, IMO. Hopefully ne never learns this trait, and if not, than yes he won’t be very successful.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Norco bob called the Bauce saturday and had left Maui and went to orlando for a few days…..he was at bar in Airport having drinks with LOUIS MURPHYYep thats right! The call from alameda already came he said. Told them to get ready for napa next week. Also said seymour a scary guy he wants to huurt ppl. said he talks schit and punches walls. Said hue refuses to see us be soft. SO RRS that is from a raider’s mouth! Lockout is over this week
July 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I have said in here many times that I like Trent Edwards and I hope we can get him for a reasonable price.
However there are many in here that will last out about this statement. I saw that over the weekend that Scottish raider was saying the same thing about Edwards and he did get attacked by a few of you in here.
I understand that JC is fragile and bringing in a guy like Edwards that could potentially challenge him for a starting position would make him uncomfortable.
This is the NFL there is always going to be competition at every position, if you are so fragile that you cant handle the competition then maybe you should not be in this league.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:11 am
This is one of the best posts I have seen in here about JC and Gradkowski:
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Thank you sir.
Amazing that Mistic (and some others) would take it to such a personal level with their attacks on Bruce.
His twitter page quote is “The Raider Nation is the greatest”.
Dude was a good Raider, and won’t say anything bad about the Raiders or their fans when he leaves.
Mistic could learn some class from guys like Bruce.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:28 am
I am cautiously optimistic concerning the lockout. All I have ever done is report what I have heard on Sirius NFL Radio, or read online and all the sudden Rockstar names me the defacto lockout commish and likes to point to everyone that I am wrong, continually failing to note that I was just relaying various reports.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Louis Murphy doesn’t drink, Brien. Nice try.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Bcz, don’t be so hard on yourself. Nobody takes your “reporting” seriously anyway.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Trent Edwards would be the ideal backup.
You always want your #2 to be a guy with enough talent and pedigree to where you can at least envision one day him turning it around and being a solid #1. Most never will, but obviously Boller and Frye don’t meet this requisites.
Edwards would, and would be ideal.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Trent Edwards is a bum. I would be sick if we signed him. After he got his clock cleaned by AZ a few years back he never got his head right. His nickname in Buffalo is Checkdown Edwards. No to Trent Edwards.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Guess Edwards can be the next “noodle arm” to repeatedly bail Campbell out.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:33 am
JFB
You made the most valid point of all about that situation and that was Bruce Gradkowski was brought in here at a low cost to be a backup.
JC was brought in here to be our next Plunkett and paid accordingly.
Its like comparing apples to oranges if you ask me.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Oooooorton!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Bcz24
Then who should we sign as JC backup?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Bcz, don’t be so hard on yourself. Nobody takes your “reporting” seriously anyway.
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This coming from the guy that literally every member of the blog hates. The only people that like you are you and the countless different accounts you log in under you little troll. My 4 year old niece could come in here and type gibberish and would be more respected than you…
July 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Isn’t Edwards a less athletic JC?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:38 am
We can still get Gradkowski for practically pennies on the dollar compared to some of the other potential backups being mentioned, who are no better than Gradkowski. I just don’t understand the Raiders. Just like how JHill doesn’t understand how any team could give Nnamdi 20 mil/yr. The Raiders puzzle me in the same way.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Bcz, I’m just saying. You’re over here trying to defend your “reporting”, as if there’s one single person reading this blog that actually relies on you as a source. Get over yourself. Have a little fun.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Not sure why Murphy would be at the Orlando airport.
He tweeted all weekend he was at the Bob Dooley golf tournament in Gainesville.
It’s about a 3 hour drive from there to the Orlando airport.
Is Murphy driving 3 hours to go an airport, when Jackonsville’s international airport is about 45 minutes away??
Hmmmm……..
July 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Remember when Cable had 3 days of practice in which the players walked only, so he could use his notrious, “we just need the guys to get the right pad level”. Cable was a joke, a fool, a puppet, he was liked by the players but he was a loser his whole career in coaching. We would get whipped by a team and he would say, “were close, just a play away, pad level and timing, we need to trust one another” hahahhaaha the score would be like 44 to 7 final. Hue is a sloid coach, a competitor who hates to lose and will fight to win no matter what, he gets along with AL too, for now. Hue is the coach we been waiting for since Gruden left, he is a great offensive mind, QB developer and know how to use his roster to make plays. He has been very open about how he will not let teams run the ball on him, he said he takes that more perosnal than anything else and that is his biggest area to fix on defense. I’m all for it. If OAK allows like 75 rush ypg they win 11 games. Last year we allowed like 140 ypg lol, awful. Lets go HUE!!!!!!! Chaz Schilens stay healthy finally please.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
JFB, Brien’s clearly lying, as usual. I heard Murphy say he didn’t drink in an interview last year.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Y’all can have all dem other drinks ….
Kool Aid is STILL the best thing on the market, lol!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:42 am
I would argue for almost any of these guys over Trent Edwards, just based on what I saw of Trent while he was here in Buffalo (more accurately what I heard from the local fans and media)
Matt Leinart
Matt Moore
Seneca Wallace
Marc Bulger
Caleb Hanie
Brady Quinn
Drew Stanton
Luke McCown
Brodie Croyle
Chad Pennington
Tyler Thigpen
Tarvaris Jackson
Jim Sorgi
Kellen Clemens
Dennis Dixon
Troy Smith
Rex Grossman
July 18th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Lol VR do u know thayt gainesville is not far from Orlando?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Tropical Punch mixed with Black Cherry!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Same things everyone said about Kiffin, paradise.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Or better yet just use the Gainesville airport, which has direct flights to Oakland.
Not buying it.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Hell I would take a 42 year old Brett Favre over Trentative ‘Checkdown’ Edwards
July 18th, 2011 at 10:45 am
MR thats a lie cuz Ive seen him at Kincaids with other Raider players lol
July 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Lol gainesville airport? Vegas u ever been there?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Where’s Kincaids, brien?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Lol VR do u know thayt gainesville is not far from Orlando?
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According to google maps it is 135 miles away.
About 30 miles further than Oakland to Monterrey.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Ha me lie? name a time i have MR……we can cite numerous times on ur end so u have no credibility
July 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Brien why don’t you just shut up and bow out now, save yourself the embarrassment.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Ha thats a riot Vegas…..i lived in jax fl before and it takes 1:45 minutes to get to orlando…..u think gainesville is up the street from Jville? lol
July 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
WOW Bcz
There are some true BUMS on your list starting with the first guy.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
MR….u been embarrassed a million times…so why do u come here? lol
July 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Lol gainesville airport? Vegas u ever been there?
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No but they had a few different $600 or cheaper direct flights to Oakland on United this weekend.
No stops, no change of flights.
Again, nobody with a few dollars in their pockets will drive 2.5 hours to take a flight, when they could spend an extra $100 and use the airline a half an hour away.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Lol ok Vegas u havent been to Gainesville airport
July 18th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Gainesville to Jax airport, according to Google maps, 69 miles away.
Almost half the distance as to Orlando.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Bob admitted that he lies on here all the time.
408 Raider said he trolls on twitter.
I will never listen to anything that dude has to say.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Off for some fine El Paso cuisine.
Pick it up in an hour or so.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:58 am
I dont’ know, Vegas, Brien might have a point. Murphy’s contract with the Raiders probably has him getting paid 50 dollars a week until his 5th year with the team. Therefore he’d have to drive to whatever airport southwest flies to.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:58 am
307.J Hill Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
WOW Bcz
There are some true BUMS on your list starting with the first guy.
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Oh I agree. I just posted a list of FA qbs… I did say I would argue for MOST not all of them. Besides, thats about how highly I think of Trent.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Raiders players don’t really make any money, Vegas. You know that. They dont start getting paid out till their 5th year with the team. That’s usually about 3 years after they’ve been released.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Ha show a post please where bob says he lies all the time….ill wait lol
July 18th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Lol MR….VEGAS acts like Murphy has a DHB contract lol
July 18th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Whatever apps Bob bought Murphy at the bar along with those peanuts on the southwest flight is all Murphy had to eat that day. That’s life on the Raiders.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Vegas doesnt understand we are talking Jax airport vs Orlando airport……which one is more likely to have flights going on the constant? Which is bigger known city? Does Vegas know about the layover or change of flights that happen with jax airport? I FKIN DO….I DO IT EVERY YEAR
July 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Every now and then Jano will take the guys to sizzler.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Jax is growing no doubt but its not a big city and the airport connecting flights support as much
July 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
I mean how does Vegas know that murphy got somethiing to handle in Orlando area before that flight or after? Thiink they dont have bzies or old teammmates round there. gotta use the noggin on this one Vegas
July 18th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Kiffin didn’t do anything. Hue had a medicore QB, no WR’s, bad o-line and took our offense from 31st in the league to 8th. I remember I used to buy rounds of shots when we got first downs when cable was running things. Hue has proven results, he was the only reason RUN DMC broke out, and marcel reese making plays. Do you have any idea what he will do with Taiwan Jones to play with too? Point blank if he develops cambpell soup into a better passing QB with the WRs and gets the D to be better against the run, we will have a really good year. week 1 in denver MNF won’t be a easy game by any stretch, we can’t overlook that game, we are wayyyyyyy better but denver will want revenge from last year, and whens the last time we won anything on MNF?
July 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Football by this weekend!
Just what we need.
Jerry better be getting the station wagon tuned up.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Paradise….good post i 99pct agree. I believe Jc is an above average qb…but yeah being over confident aint a good ideaa
July 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Raiders aint won on MNF SINCE TIM BROWNS 1000th rec in 02…..yeah we aint been solid lately
July 18th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Anyhow yall be cool….MR NEVER HEARD FROM YA on that bet…..5-11 vs 11-d….dont be a coward
July 18th, 2011 at 11:23 am
11-5*
July 18th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Brien, I change my prediction to 0-16. And, you’re on. You name the bet.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Exactly, MNF on the national spotlight OAK better step up. I like Hue, but that game, I will be very judgmental on him and how our team plays, I will change my mind real quick if John Fox out schemes Hue and beats us. Bottom line, OAK needs to play violent in that game, Fox is a good veteran coach that finds ways to stop the run and to run the ball. If Hue gets OAK to pound Denver like 31 to 14 then I will be a believer.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:38 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
The lockout’s almost over! Book it. NFL doesn’t want to have to explain themselves to the Judge in Minn tomorrow.
July 18th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Denver has done nothing to address their HORRIBLE run defense, and aside from Champ, their secondary isnt very good either. Their pass rush should be dramatically improved over last year, but I think we SHOULD still beat them. The first few weeks will really come down to which teams deal with the lockout and lack of offseason the best. Its gonna be ugly for most teams in my honest opinion though
July 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
i will take ugly wins lol
July 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Ha show a post please where bob says he lies all the time….ill wait lol
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After the Super Bowl when he said he drove to like to Tahoe to put $20 on the Saints to win, he started getting questioned on all kinds of things (like when he used to post on here saying he was basically homeless and posting from the library) he flat-out said he lies all the time on here to screw with people.
I’m sure someone else remembers it.
Who knows about the Murphy story, but if Bob is attached to the story, I am using his words and say he is lying to screw with people.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
The talent at the El Paso Hooters gets a solid B.
Much better than Albuquerque.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I like Hue, but that game, I will be very judgmental on him and how our team plays, I will change my mind real quick if John Fox out schemes Hue and beats us.
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For the record, Tom Cable never lost in Denver, and won games 31-10 and 59-14.
He was 4-1 against Denver in total.
So yeah, Hue better win week 1. It won’t be easy, but he can’t start off as a HC behind Tom Cable’s legacy.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Murphy’s contract was 4 years, 2.2 million.
So basically, he will earn 1/3 of DHB’s 2011 salary, over 4 years.
YIKES!!!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Did you try that pastrami burger yet?
Don’t forget the fried zucchini as a side order.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I thought the Pastrami was at Fat Burger??
July 18th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Ha, Cable’s wins are all from what the players did. He couldn’t lead a team to a BBQ. Hue will attack weaknesses that’s what he did all year on offense, he will run at them and throw in screens and reverses, then open up downfield throws out of play action. Von Miller? Yeah he may end up to be good, but week 1 MNF in the NFL, what is he going to do? 3 tackles? who cares, Elvis is a 3-4 LB now he going to be a 4-3 rush specialist? Denver was last in nfl against the run, they had nobodys on their D-line. Take Desmond Bryrant and send him to denver he would be their best d-lineman lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Ha, Cable’s wins are all from what the players did
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So Jamarcus Russell throwing to Ashley Lelie are a Sunday 20+ road victory waiting to happen??
Who knew!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
You can get a pastrami burger at any local burger joint that sells a pastrami sandwich.
Very common menu item.
Very surprised you have run across this in your travels.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
“THE” pastrami burger is at The Hat though.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
All this Dumervil is a 3-4 OLB is nonsense.
He lead the NFL in sacks in 2007 in the 4-3.
He played ONE YEAR (2009) in the 3-4. Rest of his career is as a DE in a 4-3 system.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
The admitted BS machine Norcomabob is full of spit, and we all know it. Credibility = ZERO.
Speaking of full of it: MR says Louis Murphy said he doesn’t drink…Louis Murphy actually says he likes to drink Merlot. MR making things up to try and stir some attention. Credibility = ZERO.
Also…if Murph got a phone call from Alameda re: the lockout, it sure wasn’t from a Raiders Team official, since that would be a violation of the League’s lockout guidelines…and put the Raiders in line for a huge fine and/or other penalties. From other Players maybe, but NO WAY from the Raiders.
Odds are, Murph is still in FLA.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Very surprised you have run across this in your travels.
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Just not looking for it I guess.
The Hat??? Not familiar with this LA lingo, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
The key in Denver will be stay away from 3rd and longs.
That’s their only threat defensively. 3rd and long, throw the offense off with crowd noise, quick off the edge to rush the passer.
We stay on the ground, and mix the pass well on not-so-obvious passing downs, and we should hang 30 on them at least.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
The Hat is a place mayne.
About 8 of them, I think.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Yeah even JaMarcus could play against the Broncos lol.
Elvis sucks, and his 17 sacks season was in a 3-4 2009. he is a 5′11 pass rush specialist who thrived in the 3-4, so he could slip under the big boys once they are tall. he has 43 career sacks, 17 in one year of the 3-4.
Von Miller is built for a 3-4 LB as well.
Just saying Elvis won’t be anything in the 4-3 he was in the 3-4. check his career.
That was like cable’s assesment on Trevor Scott: “Were going to stand him up and make him a linebacker” lol smooth move Cable. lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Not familiar with this LA lingo, lol.
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I think it is hilarious that all things So Cal = LA
That’s like us pretty much chalking all things No Cal up to Frisco.
Oh , you’re from up North? I just don’t understand you Frisco cats.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Norco wasn’t necessarily ‘lying’.
He probably thought he was talking to Murphy.
It’s easy to get confused when you’re being revived by a porter in a men’s room, swimming in a pool of your own puke and still immersed in a vicodin haze.
Key to winning in Denver, week 1: Run for 200 and don’t ask JaJason to pass for more than 150.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I simply asked if you thought we would miss some training camp or games?
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Jhill,
regardless of the rumors on PFT or BSPN reports, I’ll believe it when the players are allowed back at the facility and when coaches can start commenting on thier own free agents
July 18th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Tim Tebow’s first-start records??
Teams seem to let young QB’s do that fairly regularly…right up ’til they figure out their cadences and tendencies.
Tebow’s long run against the Raiders? As much as it kills me to say it…it was against the Raiders, who are notorious for letting guys get loose when they should be bottled-up. Tebow’s run was a product of broken assignments and missed opportunities to tackle him. Nothing really spectacular about it, unless you’re an over-the-top Tebow fan.
Tebow’s just another 2nd-year QB with a lot to prove before he can be considered legit. Nothing against the kid…but since he’s in Denver, if he never develops an NFL release, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. He’s going to be paid (already is) more money in just a few years than the rest of us could ever dream about. He’ll land on his feet and be successful no matter what happens to him on the field. Now…if he never develops into a quality pro QB, but Denver keeps acting like he is and keeps throwin him out there, that would suit us just fine.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
The timeline i heard this morning has FA opening next monday, after the teams have this coming weekend to resign their own FAs.
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BCZ,
let’s see if what you HEARD is correct.
I’m not sold on anything I’ve read up to this point, but so the record I hope you’re right
I don’t want to miss training camp, free agency or preseason games man! missing OTA’s was bad enough! now these players are trying to sissy up the game even more than it has been the past 5 years
July 18th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
My surprise prediction for 2011:
Thomas Howard starts over Groves.
Greg Beikert can get this kid to play, he is fast and plays sideline to sideline, not too mention was the best cover LB in the league not long ago. He was a special teams standout last year and I think people forgot this kid can make some plays just needs a mental tutor like greg to get his brain to match his talent.
July 18th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
correction:
for the record I hope you’re right
July 18th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Oh , you’re from up North? I just don’t understand you Frisco cats.
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All right, fair enough.
What do you want me to call it? Inland Empire lingo?
July 18th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Speaking of Trevor Scott, seems he is a likely candidate for a training camp casualty.
Does have one skill, rushing the passer, but we already have plenty of DE’s (especially if you count Wimbley as one for the most part) and Scott is not really all that valuable in ST’s.
Maybe we can schlep him off to a team for a 6th rounder or something.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Teams seem to let young QB’s do that fairly regularly…right up ’til they figure out their cadences and tendencies.
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Very true Hayez. You get that film on a QB and the chess game begins.
Case in point, the monumental disaster that was the beginning of Jamarcus’ 2009 season, fresh off playing pretty damn well to close out 2008.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Agreed Trevor Scott should be ousted. Matt Shaugnhessy is excellent, Lamar Houston, Seymour, Henderson, Bryant and Jarvis Moss, Tommy Kelly …. Wimbley can play the edge as well,not sure if Al holds onto Scott either?
Ditch:
Trevor Scott
Johnnie Lee Higgins
One DB will be gone: Prob Walter McFadden
Ricky Brown (they love Goethel)
Michael Bennett
Mario Henderson
July 18th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Speaking of Trevor Scott, seems he is a likely candidate for a training camp casualty.
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Is Trevor Scott hurting anybody?
He’s scheduled to earn 555k (same as Chaz) and he was a 6th rounder in 2008.
He’s played in 42 games, starting 16 of them and racked up 13.5 sacks
As well as RE Matt Shaughnessy played down the stretch last season, Scott will likely be relegated to a rotational role as he enters a contract season.
San Francisco Chronicle (06/15/11)
So our BASE ENDS are Houston & ShoNasty and we have a few situational pass rushers named Scott & Moss backing them up. Why is this a big deal? If one BASE END gets hurt, Desmond Bryant could fill that role
nobody is trying to pencil these depth guys in as 16-game starters. They are here for SACKS when your starters need a breather – nothing more
July 18th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Free agent QB’s??
When the Raiders have been successful, they had a very capable backup to their #1 QB on the squad. It seems unthinkable that Al’s not eyeing a more capable backup than Boller…even if the backup thinks he should be the starter.
For all of his qualities, Grads had as many chances to prove himself and grab the Raiders’ reins and not let them go. Even if he could stay healthy and on the field, there’s no telling if he would’ve secured the job. We can like him a lot…but that doesn’t make him a #1 long-term QB.
Trent Edwards or Kyle Orton worth a look?? Absolutely. Both of them.
Orton…because he’s proven he can play at a high level for an extended period. Surrounded by the right mix of talent, Orton could be a winner.
Edwards…because he’s got talent, ability, and an arm…he needs to apply those things on a regular basis. Edwards had even less talent to work with in Buffalo. He’s a West Coast guy, and sometimes the change of scenery back to where he’s most comfortable can work wonders (think Plunkett). PLUS, he’s young enough that “it” still could click for him. He’s got a chance to be a very good pro still.
Give either Orton or Edwards the talent here in Oakland, and I think they’d both be very successful. Give Jason Campbell a capable backup…because the TEAM needs one. Jason’s just gonna have to deal with someone behind him itching to play more…it’s the way of the NFL world. And…it’s a disservice to the rest of the Team to not have one ready and capable of taking on the reponsibility.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
You can call it what you want, JFB.
I just find it funny is all.
So you know how many So Cal people HATE the association to LA?
Orange County folks and those people from the Valley would take offense to being called “from LA”, lol.
Folks from Compton and Watts would also have an issue with it, lol.
Pretty funny stuff.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Not so sure on Jarvis Moss either.
Instincts are severly lacking in his play. Can’t see having Goethel, Groves and Moss all on the team. 2 of the 3 should stay.
I think you and I are the only ones who think Walter McFadden is on the chopping block. Clearly they liked Ware more last year.
Ware, Walt McFadden, Chekwe = only 2 will stay (barring injury or trading of CJ37 or something crazy like that)
July 18th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
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Silverandblack666 Says:
I understand that JC is fragile and bringing in a guy like Edwards that could potentially challenge him for a starting position would make him uncomfortable.
This is the NFL there is always going to be competition at every position, if you are so fragile that you cant handle the competition then maybe you should not be in this league.
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Couldn’t have said it better.
The ‘JaJason can’t play well with someone looking over his shoulder’ stuff, is the lamest, most absurd, excuse making nonsense imaginable.
I can deal with the ‘lack of a supporting cast’, the ‘hasn’t been in the same system’ explanations for JaJason being a turd – but the notion that a starting QB can’t handle a good backup ‘looking over his shoulder’ is beyond belief.
Imagine a backup QB actually having the aspiration to start. And imagine, a coaching staff that would actually give the backup a shot, after watching the starter stink up the joint against Tenn, St Lou, Pitt, and SF. What was that fool Hue Jax thinking ?
Can’t wait to see the JaJason excuses as the season progresses.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Nice post HayesDaze
I agree with you Orton or Edwards would be a good move for us.
“Jason’s just gonna have to deal with someone behind him itching to play more…it’s the way of the NFL world. And…it’s a disservice to the rest of the Team to not have one ready and capable of taking on the responsibility.”
great point!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Speaking of Trevor Scott, seems he is a likely candidate for a training camp casualty.
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That would mean he was replaced by Jarvis Moss.
I thought Moss played pretty well down the stretch.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
J,
Try going to the East Coast.
They just group the whole state of CA into beach-bum, LA surfers and Compton gang-bangers.
Use to get it as well in college, when the Chinese would send their not-so-smart for Chinese standard kids to Butte College, because it was cheap and in CA.
They would arrive out in the sticks in Oroville and think they got off the wrong plane, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
paradise,
Higgins & Henderson are unrestricted free agents – no need to “ditch” them
Scott is a virtual LOCK unless some random nobody like Tommie Hill or Quentin Scott impress in camp or preseason – same as Ricky Brown. Brown’s only competition is Sam Williams & Thomas Howard (and they’ve all co-existed for years)
Walt McFadden is a virtual LOCK unless we re-sign Nnamdi or he gets outplayed by Joe Porter
Bennett = gone
Chaz & Lil Nicky – one makes it. one doesn’t
July 18th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
I guess between Ware, McFadden and Chekwe, there is some practice squad potential there.
Not so with Moss and Scott.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
the notion that JC cant play with a quality qb behind him is ridiculous. the fact that Jc played well when scabs went down was coincidence and happen stance. JC had a chance to rest his injuries, and get a firmer grip on the offense, this is what made the difference.
If this bs competition angle were true how would he have ever won a starting qb job on any level? Football is all about competition from pee wee to the nfl.
This is just bs that haters use to disparage jc.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Kyle Orton is under contract with the Donks and they aren’t trading him to us …
I see him in Arizona, Minny or Cincy.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
They would arrive out in the sticks in Oroville and think they got off the wrong plane
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Watch it ….. my Aunt lives in Oroville!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
How many tweener OLB/DE’s are we going to keep.
Wimbley, Scott, Groves and Moss is too many if you ask me.
Than you have Sam Williams, Ricky Brown, Goethel and T Howard around as OLB’s as well??
Too many. And you know Sam Williams will still stick around.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Im surprised you arent mentioning DVD in there too JFB. I dont think DVD beats out Ware, Wheezy or Chekwe…
July 18th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
my Aunt lives in Oroville!
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If they are one of 30 or so houses by the lake, all is good.
If they are with the 98% of the poulation in town……not good.
Major tweaker issue out in those parts.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Since there will be an extremely truncated fa signing period guys like nnamdi wont have the time to make the usual free agent tour stops. i wonder if this helps our prospects in keeping him. Im thinking a lot of guys will take a little less money to stay put, rather than Dvina head long into a money grab sight unseen. especially the guys that have already made huge paydays like nnamdi.
Oh and for the record, it is comical that all of a sudden its ok to spend 17 mil or more on a shutdown corner, but for the last couple of years Davis was ripped for spending 15 mil on the same guy.
The so called experts and impostor fans are a joke.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
DVD will stay, at the very least one season.
3rd round pick DB with a crazy 40 time?? Al will try to make it work.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I think you and I are the only ones who think Walter McFadden is on the chopping block. Clearly they liked Ware more last year.
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Clearly????
McFadden got hurt early, didn’t he?
Ware got his shot against Pitts and got beat for a TD.
McFadden played A LOT the next game against Miami while Ware didn’t see the field at all.
The jury is CLEARLY still out on those guys.
I actually had Ware as the DB who moves to FS, lol.
I think the DB cuts come from the S position.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I think you and I are the only ones who think Walter McFadden is on the chopping block. Clearly they liked Ware more last year.
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Jeremy Ware, played in 8 games (starting none)
Walt McFadden, played in 4 games (starting none)
he played briefly against AZ before re-aggrevating that hamstring injury. Really missed like the first 7 weeks of the reg season. He got torched against the Fins and never saw the field again
July 18th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
It’s not unlikely that no team will step up to take Orton, and he ends up on the market. The thing about Orton vs Tebow…Orton is a better QB at this point than Tebow is. When the backup QB is a vet and a better player than the young “QB of the future”… THAT’S when you don’t want the backup causing the distraction (more likely the fans and local/national sportswriters. Imagine Woody Paige in Denver ripping them for playing the wrong QB).
As we in Oakland know all too well…when the right guy isn’t on the field (or who “we” think isn’t the right guy), the guy on the field carries an incredible burden to prove himself. Sometimes, the burden’s just too heavy for the guy to get over the hump.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I say goodbye:
Groves, Scott, Brown.
Thomas Howard has good ST value and I really think will have a chance to start in place of Groves.
Wouldn’t mind our LB to be “Wimbley, McMclain, Howard”
with Goethal sharing with Howard.
If Chris Johnson is somehow bunked its beacuse Rod Woodson sees other youth that can play right away opposite of routt.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
I dont think DVD beats out Ware, Wheezy or Chekwe…
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BCZ,
and you call ME negative?
Pfft!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
The ‘JaJason can’t play well with someone looking over his shoulder’ stuff, is the lamest, most absurd, excuse making nonsense imaginable.
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Didn’t you come up with that one?
July 18th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Mistic1,
New salary cap also has a salary floor, and you got teams that need to add 40+ million to payroll.
Add in that rookies are taking a paycut from rookies of years past, and a lot of veteran players are getting pay-raises this year.
Who knows, Gradkowski might earn more than 1.75 million next year as well.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
you know Sam Williams will still stick around
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LOL!
yeah, probably so
DE’s ShoNasty-Houston-Scott-Moss
OLB’s Wimbley-Groves-Goethel-Brown-Williams
Thomas Howard will not be re-signed imo. He probably wants to START someplace anyways (which won’t happen unless he heads to St Louis or KC) Goethel & Brown can both play MLB, which is valuable since Ronaldo has Crohns. Brown & Williams are cheap ST guys that get the job done
July 18th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
If Chris Johnson is somehow bunked its beacuse Rod Woodson sees other youth that can play right away opposite of routt.
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Raiders seem to have one somewhat out of nowhere camp casualty or cut, almost every year.
Had Jamarcus getting whacked before camp last year, Jeff Garcia getting cut was somewhat of a suprise at the time, Beikert, Quinton Moses, etc.
Seems with all the DB’s we have been drafting, CJ37 could be that suprise cut, if there is one.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Goethel will stay, and play the backup MLB role.
Not sure if he is athletic enough for the outside. Was none too impressed once he played in the regular season.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
paradise,
you got me seriously scratching my head bro.
CJ37 & Groves dropped and Howard starting at OLB?
I’m gonna use Jhill’s favorite saying …
Do you watch the games ???
July 18th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Wimbley, Scott, Groves and Moss is too many if you ask me.
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Scott and Moss play DE only.
I guess the key question is what happens to Groves if Goethel beats him out at OLB?
Then I’d agree with you as Groves would most likely backup OLB and DE.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Goethel will stay, and play the backup MLB role.
Not sure if he is athletic enough for the outside.
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Agreed. I love TG at MLB, but he won’t play unless Mc40 pusses out like the JAX game
Groves is your OLB (again) and he’ll be much better this season
July 18th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Reports say that retired NFL players were one of the major reason a deal wasn’t done earlier…well, it may clser than we think now. They get an extra $billion in benefits over a 10 year period…Can you feel it? Let’s get this deal done already!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
DE’s ShoNasty-Houston-Scott-Moss
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DEs = ShoNasty Houston Bryant Moss
July 18th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
“Surprise” cuts include:
Boller
Bennett
Cartwright
Schilens
N. Miller
Carlisle
Loper
J. Henderson
Eugene
S. Brown
these are the guys currently under contract …
July 18th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Re-watched this offseason the first Chiefs game, Jax and Colts game.
Groves gets punked by TE’s on running plays. Not blocked, but punked and pancaked sometimes.
Get that clown off the field or we will still be giving up 25+ yard runs off the edge.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
DEs = ShoNasty Houston Bryant Moss
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Jhill,
only 3 DT’s ???
or are you assuming we sign Fat Albert once he’s released
July 18th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
How does a OLB (like Groves) start and play most of the game (like Jax) and NOT EVEN HAVE AN ASSISTED TACKLE FOR THE WHOLE GAME!!!
Beyond pathetic.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Yeah, we’ll sign another DT. Especially with the injury prone Henderson on the team.
Can’t see us signing Haynesworthlessness though.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 9:15 am
I don’t expect more than 1 sack from Elvis on Veldy, but Miller vs. Barksdale or Campbell might be a horror show!
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Von Miller looked like any other LB when they played LSU in the Cotton Bowl. And Barksdale was there giving Jordan Jefferson all the time he wanted.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Re-watched this offseason the first Chiefs game, Jax and Colts game.
Groves gets punked by TE’s on running plays. Not blocked, but punked and pancaked sometimes.
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JFB,
Groves didn’t start at OLB against the Colts …
Mike Mitchell did, LOL
July 18th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Just Watched Denarius Moore film. Guy can run routes and attacks the ball with exceptional hands. This guy can play, DHB has to break free of his “hard worker, good blocker, runs people off” and apply himself and cathc the ball or htis guy will be starting over him by mid-season.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
How about Tommie Harris at DT??
Might be kind of expensive, and is not the NT/1 technique, UT/OT whatever the hell Bauce is talking about, that people say we need, but…….Harris can ball.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Post of the day!!!!
“J Hill Says:
The ‘JaJason can’t play well with someone looking over his shoulder’ stuff, is the lamest, most absurd, excuse making nonsense imaginable.
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Didn’t you come up with that one?”
July 18th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I am with Rockstar, re-sign Capt. Kirk to start at WLB. Also the dude would offer fantastic depth at MLB and SLB.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Howard should be our starting OLB instead of Groves. I agree with that.
He was the best guy at the position last preseason, but it was obvious the HC had a problem with him.
He bashed all the LBs on the team during the offseason.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
504,
Ready to call the winner in the Kareem Jackson-Javier Arenas debate yet?
Jackson = Garbage
Arenas = future Pro Bowler
July 18th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Howard should be our starting OLB instead of Groves. I agree with that.
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He was a BEAST last year, wasn’t he?
nobody wanted him via trade so we kept him for depth and he finished with 7 solo tackles
start him!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
re-sign Capt. Kirk to start at WLB. Also the dude would offer fantastic depth at MLB and SLB.
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booyah!
Dutch for MVB (most valuable blogger) !!!
July 18th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
The ‘JaJason can’t play well with someone looking over his shoulder’ stuff, is the lamest, most absurd, excuse making nonsense imaginable.
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Didn’t you come up with that one?
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Ha ! Yeah, I came up with that one. That’s what I do around here…come up with explanations and excuses for JaJason sucking.
I’m sure it was a JaJason detractor that came up with that beauty. LMAO.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
How are you going to build a bully with Thomas Howard at OLB??
Bullies don’t celebrate tackles 7 yards down the field, while down 2 touchdowns.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Is Thomas Howard now just a nickel LB now? Sad, that he was once of our good draft choices.
July 18th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Ha ! Yeah, I came up with that one. That’s what I do around here…come up with explanations and excuses for JaJason sucking.
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Accept that it wasn’t really an excuse for Glo, was it?
Wasn’t it one of you Gardowski guys’ excuse for why he won’t be brought back?
July 18th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Bullies don’t celebrate tackles 7 yards down the field, while down 2 touchdowns.
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I thought you like those rah rah guys?
July 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I am pretty sure it was Mistic the JC jock carrier that he was talking to.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Going to be real interesting to see what happens to Morrison in FA.
I wouldn’t have a problem with him coming back and us cutting Goethel.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Ninerwoman49 is a b@tch and has no credibility. Gayesdaze is another soft snatch who needs to be executed
July 18th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
How are you going to build a bully with Thomas Howard at OLB??
Bullies don’t celebrate tackles 7 yards down the field, while down 2 touchdowns.
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Absolutely maddening seeing him do that.
Here’s an insane idea – Thomas Howard converted to TE.
Has the speed and hands to do it.
Trevor Scott, in reverse.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
I thought you like those rah rah guys?
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That’s not rah-rah.
I like the guy who grabs the idiot dancing around and let’s him know what time it is.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Anybody see Campbell’s comments how how McNabb was treated in DC?
On Donovan McNabb…
According to Campbell, Donovan McNabb has handled the situation like a “pro” by choosing to keep his opinions to himself. He also feels McNabb is, “at a stage in his career where he has a lot of football left.”
“When asked how he would deal with the controversy, he laughed noting that, while it was a ‘tough’ situation, one can never know what goes on behind closed doors. He added, however, “Truth be told, I’m glad I wasn’t put in that kind of situation.”
http://www.csnwashington.com/07/13/11/Campbell-glad-I-wasnt-put-in-that-kind-o/landing_redskins_loud3r.html?blockID=541066&feedID=272
Guess he wasn’t too bitter about being benched for Bruce.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Probably was Mistic who the Gardowski fan was talking too.
But still, to imply that a JC supporter would actually author something to the effect that JC is so fragile mentaly that he could handle someone having a legit shot at unseating him is pretty ridiculous.
CLEARLY that is something that would come from someone who is anti Glo.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Ninerwoman49 talkin about a qb suckin but yet she slurps Grad and lies that he was the better qb lol. Talk about no credibility. Ninerwoman49 just upset grad cant impregnate her
July 18th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Jarvis Moss over T Scott? My god will yyall just save us the drama and commit suicide? Only a erson short on brain cells would auggest that. Moss is trash while Scott has been productive as a 6th round choice
July 18th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
“Probably was Mistic who the Gardowski fan was talking too.”
It was.
people forget Grads was brought in here as a backup QB.
Why they are so intimidated by him is beyond me the guy just did hid job never complained and praised the Raider Nation on his way out.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I actually like Gardowski.
I’ve said on several occasions that he is the PERFECT backup QB. I’d take him over Boeller is a heartbeat.
Edwards and Gardowski battling for the #2 QB spot would be a good situation for us, imo.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Soup has a 100 mph tennis serve?
That’s actually pretty impressive.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
And Jhill youre way off on our LA/SF thing. Oakland cant be charcterized as same as SF. Got our own school system, bus system and airport. Got own city council and own sports teams. People know Oakland and sF arent the same place. Now SoCal is Daygo as well as LA BUT OVERALL when we talk SoCal we are referring to the LA Basin. Ppl go out of their way to display whats what. orange County lol come on bruh
July 18th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Scott is utter Garbage. Nothing more than a project we are still waiting on to develop.
Coming off major knee surgery, I don’t see him being a factor at all.
What did he do last year before he got hurt? SUCK is all.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Ha gimme Boller over Grad. Both suck but one knows his place while the other believes he is destined for greatness
July 18th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I wouldn’t be mad if we brought Bruce back, but if I were GM, I wouldn’t do it.
We need one 16 game season, with as little distraction as possible for Soup, to see if he is worth a contract extension or not.
Before you marry the chick, you have to move in with her for awhile. Than you decide if you getting hitched for the somewhat long-term, or if you are splitting.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
“Edwards and Gardowski battling for the #2 QB spot would be a good situation for us, imo.”
I agree.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Hmmmm Jhill for a 6th rd pick and nummbber of sacks he had saying he sucks means you have a vendetta or you just dont know what the hell you are talking about. I know you dont hold grudges
July 18th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Ha ! Yeah, I came up with that one. That’s what I do around here…come up with explanations and excuses for JaJason sucking.
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Accept that it wasn’t really an excuse for Glo, was it?
Wasn’t it one of you Gardowski guys’ excuse for why he won’t be brought back?
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Yes, it really was an excuse for JaJason. One that I still see trotted out here. The old JaJason delicate psyche excuse. Absurd. JaJason himself would laugh at that one.
I see Grads detractors here saying he shouldn’t be back bcz he wanted to be the starter.
You know, it’ll divide the team. Isn’t there a moron here now that alluded to that earlier in this very thread ?
No, Grads supporters arn’t going to say, or agree with, the idea that he shouldn’t or won’t be back bcz of JaJason’s fragile ego. Sorry, JHill.
The only reason Grads shouldn’t be back is if he isn’t healthy.
Bcz if he is healthy he’ll beat out JaJason.
Again.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Al Davis, the GM, has lost 57% of his games since 1989, and all you dumb mfkrs can talk about is a noodle-armed career backup QB, who isn’t even on the Team anymore.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Not way off at all.
You No Cal cats, wanna lump all of So Cal into the LA stereotype. No different than the folks JFB talked about.
A lot of people know that there is more to So Cal than LA too, but that doesn’t stop the non sense.
Up North = San Fran to most people who arent to up on geography. Same way So Cal = LA.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
I hated Boller when he was a Cal Bear.
Has the guy ever been any good?? Did he at least make the state playoffs in High School? I wouldn’t be suprised if he didn’t.
The guy went 0-11 one year at Cal!!!! I don’t care who’s on your team or who’s coaching, if you are a 1st round pick at QB, you at least win one freaking game.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
No, Grads supporters arn’t going to say, or agree with, the idea that he shouldn’t or won’t be back bcz of JaJason’s fragile ego. Sorry, JHill.
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Well we can just disagree on this one.
I recall the comment, but I can’t put my finger on who said it. Feel free to repost it since you’ve seen it repeatedly.
It just doesn’t make any sense for a Glo supporter to argue that he is so fragile mentally that he can’t handle competition.
If you look at it objectively, that is CLEARLY an excuse that would fall in the “Why Grads was not brought back” category. Might even be the $1000 question, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
“Al Davis, the GM, has lost 57% of his games since 1989, and all you dumb mfkrs can talk about is a noodle-armed career backup QB, who isn’t even on the Team anymore.”
Yeah we know and you have lost 57% of your functioning brain power since 1989 and your noodle arm is worn out from whacking yourself off incessantly to goat porn which is a distraction from your diapers being filled before your sponge bath.
Go back in the closet KK your posts are all racially motivated and filled with hate.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
@JHill
I think JerryMac said this on a few occasions, that Campbell played better when Gradkowski was hurt…
July 18th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
I see Grads detractors here saying he shouldn’t be back bcz he wanted to be the starter.
You know, it’ll divide the team.
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There has only been one person I’ve seen say this.
And it was more related to locker room politics than Glo’s ability to play.
I’ve NEVER seen a JC supporter say Grads shouldn’t be back because it will cause Glo to play poorly, lol.
Cmon mayne!
July 18th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
434.KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Al Davis, the GM, has lost 57% of his games since 1989, and all you dumb mfkrs can talk about is a noodle-armed career backup QB, who isn’t even on the Team anymore.
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Al Davis has put together a team and coaching staff that even YOU say has a good chance to win the division THIS season and all your BEECH arsse can talk about is 89???
Git da phugg outta here wit dat buuuuhhhllllshhhhttttt!
July 18th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
J Hill Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Al Davis has put together a team and coaching staff that even YOU say has a good chance to win the division THIS season and all your BEECH arsse can talk about is 89???
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SINCE 89 dumb mfkr, the last 23 years.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dutch,
JC did play better when Gardowski was hurt.
That’s to say he played better as a Raider from the time he played in the SD game replacing Gardowski than he did prior to replacing him.
I think we all agree with that.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
I’ve lived in a few states, and got a lot of family on the East Coast.
You tell people you are from the Oakland area, half of them think you are talking about Michigan, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
The last 23 years??????
The Raiders had a chance to win the division LAST YEAR, and YOU think the can win the division THIS YEAR.
You are an effin arssee clown!
July 18th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Before you marry the chick, you have to move in with her for awhile. Than you decide if you getting hitched for the somewhat long-term, or if you are splitting.
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Kell,
I thought you and MR had JFB pegged as a conservative?
This comment suggests otherwise
July 18th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
How about the latest Sporting News, with Albuquerque’s finest Adrain Foster on the cover?
A bunch of pics of him in Albuquerque, and who would thought that “the most intersting man in football” would be from the land of enchantment?
Lived in San Diego and ABQ growing up. Still lives in ABQ with his wife, and has nothing to do with San Diego.
Take that KoolKell and your stupid flyover state comment!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
KK is grumpy he missed his nap and forgot to take his meds.
Thus creating a string of unfortunate events that followed:
He spilled his coffee on his crotch….went into the bathroom to clean it up and got his little worm stuck in his pants zipper…..they had to call the fire department to get it out….They in turn called his male nurse to administer a sponge bath because the scared old goat soiled himself during the excitement….once they got him calmed down and brought him a fresh glass of Metamucil he started to feel better….then his boss reprimanded him for being last in yearly sales….this sent KK into a mad head spin….which is why he is here now acting out like a 3 year old angrily posting threats at bloggers.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I hated Boller when he was a Cal Bear.
Has the guy ever been any good??
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who knows more about football?
a semi pro blogger at J Mac’s or Ozzie Newsome & Al Davis?
July 18th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
How about the latest Sporting News, with Albuquerque’s finest Adrain Foster on the cover?
A bunch of pics of him in Albuquerque, and who would thought that “the most intersting man in football” would be from the land of enchantment?
Lived in San Diego and ABQ growing up. Still lives in ABQ with his wife, and has nothing to do with San Diego.
Take that KoolKell and your stupid flyover state comment!!!
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big whoop
July 18th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
If Bruce is brought back, there will be dudes in the stands screaming “Brrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce” after Soup’s first incompletion.
I don’t think we need that.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
who knows more about football?
a semi pro blogger at J Mac’s or Ozzie Newsome & Al Davis?
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Not doubting his talents or arm-strength, but people have been waiting for Boller to put it together since he was a freshmen at Cal.
12 years later, we are all still waiting.
He stinks. The best thing going for Kyle Boller is his wife.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
JC did play better when Gardowski was hurt.
That’s to say he played better as a Raider from the time he played in the SD game replacing Gardowski than he did prior to replacing him.
I think we all agree with that.
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For the most part, yes.
Couldn’t play any worse than he did against Tenn and St Lou.
But refresh my memory, please.
When did the Pitt and SF JaJason gems occur ?
Could’ve sworn those two beauties were AFTER Grads got injured.
In fact, I thought it was those two fantastic efforts from JC that opened the door for Grads to start again.
I agree JaJason didn’t turn in any JaMoronesque performances after Grads tapped out against Miami though.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Jhill,
calling Kell a clown because he posted stats (ie FACTS) ???
I see you’ve joined AD’s bootlicker club
welcome home brah!
July 18th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Not doubting his talents or arm-strength, but people have been waiting for Boller to put it together since he was a freshmen at Cal.
12 years later, we are all still waiting.
He stinks.
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Hue Jackson doesn’t think so.
July 18th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
JFB,
Boller earned the 1998 California State Player of the Year honors after an outstanding senior season at William S. Hart High School in Santa Clarita, CA. He led Hart to the CIF Southern Section Division III title with a 13–1 record. He passed for California prep record of 4,838 yards and threw for 59 TDs, the 2nd-best mark in California prep history, and ended the season completing 290 of 454 passes (63.9%). Because of this, he was considered by many to be the best prospect to emerge from The Valley Region of Los Angeles since John Elway came out of Granada Hills High School in 1979. During the 1998 season, Boller also played the position of safety on defense, and intercepted a pass in the final minute of the sectional championship game. He was rated the number one QB prospect in the nation by PrepStar and was that publication’s national Offensive Co-Player of the Year. (WIKI)
July 18th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
So Boller did win the sectionals in HS.
So maybe there is some hope for him, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
What’s the matter Bri Bri? Ever since I demoted you to private from your self-appointed general rank, you don’t like me?
Remember how much your other troll names used to like me? Oh, that’s right, your other troll handles hate me too…because I’m one of the multitudes who know you’re a self-possessed, testosterone-laden, chauvenist, homophobe and bigot. The trifecta. How you convince other people you’re on the up with them is beyond me. Even your troll buddies and make-believe friends know what you’re really about.
What we all know, is that you have serious issues…at least as serious as MR (another of your “friends”…but ONLY when you need him to be for your one-sided discussions).
Hell, Bri…even KK has your number! And let me give you some advice on KK, since you seem to be clueless about such things: When one retires from a 20+ year as a Navy enlisted man (especially in the 80’s), he does not retire a rich man. All credit to the man for his service — being a Vet myself, I have the utmost respect for his sacrifices. But as such, he gets a nominal monthly stipend…nothing like the pay you would get if you were an actual general, ya dig. So…stop pumping the old guy up so much — his money is HER money, you know what I mean? It’s why he has floor-duty in the office on weekends (especially when Mama’s out of town, which is a lot). You two guys keep up the witty repartee, though. It’s kinda fun watching KK get the best of you.
And, give my regards to your make-believe friend Norcomabob “in Orlando with Louis Murphy.” Just like the Raiders’ strength and conditioning coach has you
dialed-in to what Al Davis has planned for the Team. Even before Al has decided what he’s going to do (because even He doesn’t know who’s going to be available yet). I’m sure the coach you like to quote just LOVES being associated with one of the blog’s biggest trolls, giving away “inside” information. You know Al just loves that stuff.
C’mon Brientheprivate…give us some more insights! Can you do it without trying to be the bad-ass bully of the blog? Even if you can’t…the next time I sit next to you at Ricky’s, I’ll buy you a beer anyway. After all, you do SEEM to be a fan.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
KK, for all his worldy travels would bad mouth NM?? No way! There’s good and bad everywhere, isn’t there?
They don’t call NM the Land Of Enchantment for nothing. It’s a gorgeous State. Just as pretty as CA in some areas…and plenty friendly in most areas.
Go visit it sometime, KK. It would do you some good to see another part of the world…if you can take your blinders off.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
If Bruce is brought back, there will be dudes in the stands screaming “Brrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce” after Soup’s first incompletion.
I don’t think we need that.
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Maybe not.
But what happens when JaJason strings together a few games like the ones against SF and Pitt, or Tenn and St Lou again ?
Would it be better to hear “Brrrruuuuuuce” or “Bollllllllll” ?
You’re going to hear them yelling for someone besides JaJason.
Count on that.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Hey Krappy, tell everyone on the blog again about how much you hate name calling.
” … all you dumb mfkrs can talk about … “
July 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
KK would like Taos.
A bunch of stuffy, well-to-do, liberal elitists.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Taos is beautiful, elitist or not. Santa Fe = simply AWESOME.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Unfortunately, everything is on fire around these parts.
Golfed at Buffalo Thunder golf course in Santa Fe 3 times this year .
Hale Irwin course, and crazy “trick-shot” like course (blind tee shots, island greens, EXTREME DOG LEGS, crazy elevated tee shots). Throw in some 35 mph winds and it is more mental than anything else playing it.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Been to Albuquergue, not impressed, never been to Santa Fe though.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I won’t be mad if we used a 3rd on Pryor in the sup draft, but I sure wish we weren’t going into the next draft down a 2nd and 4th already.
I am a draft geek and watch a ton of it each year, and I can’t remember a team every only having a 1st and a 5th in the draft. I am sure it has happened, and I have seen teams without a 1st or 2nd, but that would be crazy.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Yeah, Taos is where I want to go.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I don’t know about dividing the team.
If that is so, especially if true of offensive players, than I have little faith in Hue’s ability to lead a team and manage men.
Soup didn’t play well and got benched. It turned out to be the wrong decision, but a decision was made and players aren’t paid to make decisions.
Any offensive player who whined, felt-divided or helped be divisive, should be cut immediately.
Sack up and play!!!
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This cracks me up! It took you until somebody said something about your man crush to figure this out. I’ve never believed in that divided locker room bulscht. Heard that garbage on here throughout JR’s tenure. Doesn’t exist.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Apparently Lil Wayne loves Albuquerque.
Always stops here on tour, the girls at the strip jant always talk about him, and he even has these random photos at little hispanic restaurants around town.
Even has his own salsa at El Pinto’s!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Wall Street Journal proves Keynes was right
Economists agree: A lack of consumer demand explains why employers aren’t hiring
A seven-word Wall Street Journal headline says it all: “Dearth of Demand Seen Behind Weak Hiring.”
The first paragraph:
The main reason U.S. companies are reluctant to step up hiring is scant demand, rather than uncertainty over government policies, according to a majority of economists in a new Wall Street Journal survey.
It’s not every day that one sees liberal econoblogger Keynesian orthodoxy stated so bluntly in the Wall Street Journal, so we should cherish it when it happens. But what could be more obvious, even in the absence of rigorous training in economics? In the absence of demand, businesses will refrain from ramping up production and adding staff — no matter what employers think about the future regulatory climate. To prime this pump, to rev up this engine, to get the “delicate machine” working properly, the first focus for economic policymakers should be figuring out ways to boost demand.
http://www.salon.com/news/us_economy/index.html?story=/tech/htww/2011/07/18/wall_street_journal_proves_keynes_right
July 18th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Atta boy, KK — I knew you were a little more open minded about places to visit. You are a traveler, and as such one needs to keep an open mind. Sometimes your cynicism gets the best of you…and I for one know you’ve got some good traits, if not all.
Taos = the Aspen of NM. Santa Fe is a great melting pot of cultures and styles — and great food! Northern NM is some of the prettiest territory you’ll ever see…much like northern AZ. But if one flies over, rather than takes his time to really see, he’d never have a clue.
No place in the world has as much beautiful scenery and varied landscapes as Cali, though. Halve the population, and Cali would be like heaven on earth again.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Krappy the Troll, stop posting your political nonsense! What a sad old troll you are.
Man, I feel sorry for poor Albuquerque! If they didn’t meet Krappy’s high travel standards they might as well just get their tourism license revoked.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Sedona AZ is beautiful too.
July 18th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
That’s it KK! We could take a trip to Sedona, tune into the vortexes, and cleanse our mortal souls. You and Al Davis could do it as psychic buddies, even.
A sweat lodge might be just what the doctor ordered!
July 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Dudes the Carmageddon Bikini Blowout this weekend was off the charts. Me and the ladies partied serious and went through at least 2.5 boxes of Magnums.
Last night, after running for 3 days straight, the PARTYDUDE 8000 broke down and now is over the body shop for repairs and a new paint job. Don’t worry, we ordered up a few Coors Light Party Balls and a boxy of Funyuns and kept the dance floor jumping.
The Simply Red cover band played reggae hits all weekend long and cost me around $6000, but it was well worth it. I tipped them an extra grand and still had plenty of pocket change left for a 10 ft party sub from Togos. Straight up.
Already looking like a great week of bagging on the Kelly Family – Grandpa Krappy, Uncle TJ and Grandson Brian the Genital.
PARTY PEOPLE IN THE PLACE TO BE, BIG UUPS
July 18th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
You and Al Davis could do it as psychic buddies, even.
A sweat lodge might be just what the doctor ordered!
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Hehe, you set it up. Lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Gotta run
July 18th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Krappy, pretty sure you mean “got the runs”
July 18th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Tempe AZ is the best, its also the easiest place to score chics in america, iv been there 4 times, and im batting 1000
Love that place especially the bar called he library (is it still there)
July 18th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
ABQ = Not so bad when you get away from the freeway corridors. Good food…and the tram is awesome (especially after a little tequila!).
The pueblos north of ABQ are historic, and their artists’ studios and artwork are world-class…even in rather humble surroundings.
Here you go, Kell…a western States trip of a lifetime: A motorhome trip down the PCH, then through the deserts to PHX (great bars/shopping, esp in Scottsdale), up to Sedona, through Flagstaff (with a side trip to the Grand Canyon), across to ABQ, then north to Santa Fe, on to Taos, across the plains of Colorado, up the Rockies and then on into gorgeous Utah (bring your own booze, save yourself the hassle of searching for it), into Idaho and the beautiful Cascades, across Washington to Seattle (take a little boat trip!), then down through rose-filled Portland, through metropolitan Yreka, CA (ha!), and follow the coast all the way back to The Bay.
A month + a couple grand in ga$ money (plus the cost of the motorhome, if you don’t have one) = priceless trip, worth every penny.
You’re welcome!
July 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Seems we will have a preseason! woooho! cmon lawyers, get in there and scrap the last $1,000 hours, get these two groups of millionaires to agree on how to cut the 9 billion pie! wow, big numbers!….on other news Wynn says Vegas is back!
July 18th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Nnamdi: the more I think about it the more I see him with the Colts! juat?
July 18th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I see Nnamdi with the Patriots.
July 18th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
the consensus over the last few days has been that most of the major issues – including the player/owner revenue split and new free agency rules – have been sorted out. Owners meetings are scheduled for Thursday and key team employees have been ordered to attend, so that they can immediately learn all the new rules should the deal go through.
So after all this time, what happened to finally bring the two sides together? Money, of course.
One, with the Hall of Fame Game on the horizon, the concept of losing money (about $200 million a week, by some estimates) suddenly became very real to some owners.
Two, it seems that the players finally revealed their trump card last week: A secret insurance policy that would have paid every union member $200,000 if the 2011 season was canceled. With the NFL’s own “lockout fund” tied up in the courts, the idea of a long-drawn fight became a lot less appealing.
So while we still remain unconvinced of anything until the papers are signed, there is hope that this is the beginning of the end for the lockout and no football will be missed. (Just don’t hold your breath.)
http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-lockout-update-2011-7#ixzz1SVKkxr00
July 18th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
When lawyers are involved, you know they will milk it for every last dollar.
Have you ever noticed that the majority of our politicians went to law school?
July 18th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Everyone hates lawyers till they need one.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Looks like the wheels are coming off Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
HayesDaze37,post480,thanks for the roadmap,sounds like you had a Great time!I like youre heads up on booze in Utah,stock up and go!Now lets get on with some Football!Raiders!!!!!!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
RAIDER, when have you ever needed a lawyer?
July 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
KoolKell, the wheels are coming off all “news organizations”.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
That would be huge, Kell. If this thing gets momentum, Fox will have to scale back their smear methods (undoubtedly used here in the states at FoxNews as well as across the pond) in next year’s election season. This network’s propaganda has already played a significant role (perhaps even a primary role) getting someone elected and re-elected to the white house, and has slandered and defamed a major political party, and anyone affiliated with it, by manipulating a fearful and agitated American audience in the wake of the country’s most catastrophic event ever. It’s likely Murdoch and his money will weasel out of this. But if he doesn’t, GOOD RIDDANCE. His absence wouldn’t quite be as good as reenacting the Fairness Doctrine, but it would at least result in a similar effect.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
The problem with progressives (RAIDER and KollKell) is that they have neither the experience or the intellect to know when they are being used as tools by the ruling elite.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Twocents,
someone slams into you while you’re stopped at an intersection. they refuse to pay for your damages. You’re not calling a lawyer?
July 18th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
The problem with two cents is that he hasn’t bathed, or even been out of his rural shack, in 10 years.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
My pleasure, Hendu.
Make any part of that trip, and I’d be tempted to hook-up with you along the way! Nearly every major stop enroute (and many a smaller one) is worth visiting again.
Tomorrow is the day THE DEAL gets done. Hall Of Fame Game’s right around the corner!
I love the smell of football in the morning, at night, and any other time. Especially @ a Coliseum tailgate!
It’s always a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
July 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Before I go…
Twocents — If you haven’t noticed, Rupert Murdoch is part of — and helps propagate — the ruling elite that few of us will ever be members of. No matter what MR thinks of him.
Later!
July 18th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RAIDER, have you been slammed into someone at at intersection? I have. If that someone has insurance you might recover some of your loss. But if they have no assets, like you, then you are going to recover zip, lawyer or not.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
0-16, Hayez.
You should just be hoping for the lockout to continue.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Hayez, just for that last comment about Murdoch, I now predict the Raiders will go 16-0. Campbell will shatter every seasonal QB record.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RAIDER, you don’t debate. You just cast dispersions, exactly like the Nazi that you are.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Wage garnishment.
As long as those pesky lawyers are around, you get a chunk of that jerk’s pay check if he gets a job. If he doesn’t, you’re right. You recoup nothing. But it’s nice to know that if he does, his payday is your payday.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Look, I give you credit for being a redneck recluse out in the sticks and being able to spell dispersions, but you can stop annoying me now.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Wow, beechy is still rambling with poop talk, and mr is still clueless.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
And you’re still moneyless, car-less, and homeless, Raccoon. How you doing, ol buddy?
July 18th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Of course Raider, you realize that the government gets their take first.
July 18th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I almost forgot, twocents, if the police ever arrest you on suspicion of being a right wing terrorist, you’ll need a lawyer. Although he’ll probably just advise you to plea out, considering the insurmountable evidence.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Yes, the government gets their funds. You’ll draw your share when the paramedics have to knock down the front of your shack to extract you and all of your 500 lbs.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Janet Jackson was hot…
July 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RAIDER, yes the terrorist ploy, I expected that. Any one who disagrees with the state is a terrorist.
Nazi: a member of the National Socialist German Workers Party.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Cut Jon Condo!Teach Samson to snap!;!!!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Jimmy C in 2012!
July 18th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RAIDER, you are a Nazi. You would fit perfectly in 1930’s Germany. If someone is identified as an enemy of the state, round them up and fire up the ovens. Man, can’t you see what a tool you are?
July 18th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
The difference between the Nazis and the cops keeping an eye on people like you, twocents, is that the Nazis targeted the innocent.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
RAIDER, your love for the police arresting your enemies says it all.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RAIDER, your BS knows no bounds. The state police surely know who is innocent. You are perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in my entire life.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Well, if my enemy happens to be a right wing terrorist, as well, then that sounds about right. That’s what the cops are supposed to do. Instead of chasing black guys and their nickel bags of weed around, they should be going after these tin shack tea party creeps who’ve been threatening mayhem since O-bama won.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
twocents, nobody thinks you’re independent minded because you use words like “state police”. They just think you’re another unstable tea party type.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Twocents, you’re an idiot tool of Fox News.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Mista = 2cent?
July 18th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
twocents is probably a state worker who gets picked on by his minority co-workers.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis
Americans are unimpressed with their political leaders’ handling of the debt ceiling crisis, with a new CBS News poll showing a majority disapprove of all the involved parties’ conduct, but Republicans in Congress fare the worst, with just 21 percent backing their resistance to raising taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20080250-503544.html
July 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Excellent comment KoolKell. Way to put some intellect into the debate.
You and your idiot friend RAIDER have nothing to offer except name calling.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Btw clowns the word is ASPERSIONS
July 18th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
twocents is probably a state worker who gets picked on by his minority co-workers.
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Dude never has anything substantive to say, just wild assed conspiracy nonsense. There’s no there, there.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Even that Filipino Joe Rudi understands aspersions… Tards
July 18th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
JFB are you Gradkowski’s little brother???
I can’t believe how much crap you come up with to absolve that guy of any and all guilt.
July 18th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Twocents Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RAIDER, you don’t debate. You just cast dispersions, exactly like the Nazi that you are.
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Lol. He’s an idiot. When you’re that dumb, you’ll believe anything, and the Limbaughs of the world are riding their dumbasses all the way to their carribean estates.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Twocents Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RAIDER, you don’t debate. You just cast dispersions, exactly like the Nazi that you are.
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Sounds just as goofy and ignorant as S@rah P@lin. Funny, but sad.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Thank you Bo, I hate when I don’t speak the “Kings English”.
But what is the point of debating any point on this blog? There is never any real exchange.
I give up.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Man some of you in here need to GROW UP. Pisss poor tag team of Mr & KK reek of a sad attempt at comedy. Get a freakin clue, NO ONE cares about your stupid libtard politics. BFD.
Tell some one who gives a crapp. Maybe the men in white coats will listen to you two rabble rousers. NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID POLITICAL NONSENSE.
As if you can do something about it, you talk like you invented libtardism. GROW UP or get out of here.
I’m a liberal and you two comedians come off as wanna-bes’. You give libtards a good name.
LONG LIVE AL DAVIS! Clowns, try that one on for size. Al Davis owns the Raiders and you can’t do squat about it.
Mr and KK hate Al Davis because they are jelous of him and his accomplishments.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
And in other news,
A Florida sheriff said men booked into his county’s jail are no longer being provided underwear free of charge, but they do have the option of purchasing pairs.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said the Polk County Jail canteen now sells underwear at $2.54 for a pair of briefs and $4.48 for a pair of boxer shorts, the Orlando Sentinel reported Friday.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
LOL…..El Paso stripclubs.
Probably not the place for white dudes in shirt and ties. I think I just narrowly escaped death from a Juarez drug gang.
Vini Vidi Vici ese!!!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
JFB are you Gradkowski’s little brother???
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I’m older than him, and don’t have any Polish in me.
But I told my wife during the 2009 season, if she got preggers and it was a boy, it was going to be named Bruce Wayne “JFB”.
My man Grads would have been a family namesake.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
And you can bring your own beer into Texas stripclubs??
Up to a 6 pack or a 750ML bottle of booze.
What planet is this?? How do you let a drug cartel into a strip jant and let them bring in a bottle of Jack each?
I see Death around the corner with these places.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
There’s a new rule in place for this year. Officials will review every score, so neither team will need to use challenges on any scores. Those teams that put points on the board will be in for a long afternoon.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Wtg Vegas…vini vidi Venice crips lol
July 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I vote for the elimination of reviews, except for under 2 mintues in a half.
Bad calls happen all the time, and bad calls happen all the time EVEN WITH INSTANT REPLAY.
Just another way for the NFL to flip to a commercial and drum up some ad dough.
I’m over it. Fck replay. Don’t want it in baseball, and don’t want it in football.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Vegas — It’s easy to tell you’re out of town and bachin’ it. Your discriptions bring to mind last night’s Breaking Bad episode! Even the most civilized “gentlemens’ clubs” have a certain clientele one must always be wary of. Kinda like old-school poker rooms. Just don’t let that alcohol you carry in make you braver (and/or stupider)!
July 18th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
I googled reviewed the local strip jants.
Nero’s was considered the more “low-rent” type places, so I figured that would be more my speed.
It almost turned into one of those Chappelle skits where keeping it real goes wrong. This dancer was yelling at me in half English and Spanish, that her boyfriend would kill anybody and I was sober and not sure what was going on.
Still not sure what happened, except I almost stumbled into a Death.
Should have just stayed low-key at the Hamptonn Inn happy hour, lol.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Might even be a lot cheaper to stay at the Embassy Suites…even if they’re more expensive up-front. The women probably look better, too!
July 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Hayes,
I have been to many low-rent places in my life. Gotten hookers in the diviest of dives.
Nero’s in El Paso takes the cake. That was major-league iffy.
Anyways, enough of all that.
Great day to be a Raider isn’t it!!!!
Force Tebow into two turnovers, rush for 130+ yards minimum, and win the ST battle, and just hope Soup doesn’t completely blow it and we should be 1-0.
Raiders 34 Donkeys 24
July 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I’m on board…I’d take 24-13 Raiders all day long. All season long!
As long as the O is close to the scoring machine it nearly was last year, we’re on our way. NO WAY is the D ranked in the bottom 3rd this year. No way. Please.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Over/under on D-Mac yards from scrimmage:
1,756
July 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
O/U on Soup TD tosses:
15.5
July 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Dude never has anything substantive to say, just wild assed conspiracy nonsense. There’s no there, there.
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If you polled the posters, would you be surprised if most of us felt that way about your babble?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
O/U on Ford total TD’s:
8
July 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Yummm…dinner finally arrives.
Don’t spend too much on that movie-on-demand @ the Hampton, dude! (Unless the company is OK payin’ for it!)
Later
July 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
JFB
You sound like a degenerate slime-ball, aren’t you married?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Twocents Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I give up.
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THANK YOU!!!
MY F’N GOODNESS.
WE GET ENOUGH OF THAT TEA PARTY BLABBER ON TV.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
O/U on Bruce Gradkowski starts in 2011:
0.5
July 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Hayes,
I have been to many low-rent places in my life. Gotten hookers in the diviest of dives.
………
Yeah, that is a little sad.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
O/U on DHB catches:
33
July 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
But I told my wife during the 2009 season, if she got preggers and it was a boy, it was going to be named Bruce Wayne “JFB”.
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Batman fan, I see.
Gardowski my arsse!
July 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
O/U on Taiwan Jones carries for the year:
41
July 18th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
HaHaHaHaHa
Listeninging to some of the Al Davis bootlickers is like listening to Mr. Rogers, slow enough if your just beginning to talk.
Tea Party people really konw how to drink tea? I want to join the tea party so I can sit around and drink tea, and eat some crumpets too.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
O/U on Raiders rush D rank:
23rd
July 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
O/U on Raiders Pro Bowlers:
3
July 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Now we’re talking about strippers here on a Monday night? Sheeezz, this blog is off the charts. Jerry, send some help in here.
Whats next, a weenie roast?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
This dancer was yelling at me in half English and Spanish, that her boyfriend would kill anybody and I was sober and not sure what was going on.
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LMFAO!
July 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
and just hope Soup doesn’t completely blow it and we should be 1-0.
Raiders 34 Donkeys 24
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34 pts if Soup doesn’t blow it?
How do we get that 34, iyo?
How much do we score if Soup does blow it?
July 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
O/U on Chaz Schilens game played:
7.5
July 18th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
O/U Games Al Davis wears a jump suit:
7.0
July 18th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
O/U Raiders sell out a home game:
0
July 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Soup = over 20 TD passes
DHB = 40 catches minimum
July 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
O/U Some one complains about Al Davis track record over last 8 tears:
1
July 18th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
O/U DHB passes caught:
75 (could be a big payout)
July 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
O/U Raiders pts per game:
23.5
July 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
How do we get that 34, iyo?
How much do we score if Soup does blow it?
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The two Tebow turnovers turn into 10 points.
Some solid ST’s, some good rushing, and the patented Soup dumpoff for a TD.
You know I give Soup a lot of gruff for the dumpoffs, but in reality he may be the best dumpoff QB in the league.
The man can anticipate and spin off a great 7 yard pass!!!
July 18th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
75 passes caught for DHB???!!!???
Those payout odds will be like hitting the soft 6 in craps.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
In the Jax game, with the early D-Mac TD pass, Soup did a great job.
It was a complete botch job by the Jax LB’s, but Soup recognized it quickly, lead Darren perfectly, and he made the Safety miss in the open-field, and viola 70 yard TD pass.
It’s almost one of those things that other QB’s would miss because they are normally looking down the field, at least at first to where they might get the ball to Darren in that situation a tad late.
But Soup?? Don’t you dare challenge him to dump it off!!! He will and do it well.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
There you go, two posts praising Jason Campbell.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I just googled it, and Soup doesn’t have a middle name.
Who doesn’t have a middle name?? In New Mexico, half these dudes have like 2 middle names. (Juan Carlos Esparaza Dominguez).
Is this a Southern black thing, no middle name?
Seriously, I want to know.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Soup is his middle name.
All kiddin aside, I wish him well. If he choks the Raiders are FK’d w/o a decent back up.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
More like a southern white thing. The county registrar had a hard enough time spelling “Jason”, so he left it out.
July 18th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Hue Jackson’s first move as a solid, real head coach was to get rid of our only decent backup QB, per Al’s immediate orders.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
75 passes caught for DHB?
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Gimme the under for a dime.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
576.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
75 passes caught for DHB?
Gimme the under for a dime.
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NO Raiderman, he meant CAREER.
July 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
O/U fatass seabass misses from inside the 40:
5.5
July 18th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
O/U fatass seabass misses from inside the 40 COSTS THE GAME:
6.5
July 18th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
In all seriousness, O/U Mr. Janakowski hit beyond 50 yard line as time expires for game winner:
2:5
July 18th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
O/U times Hue Jackson takes off headset and slams it to the ground:
14.5
July 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
As long as Al Davis is the managing general partner (general manager) of the Oakland Raiders, he will be the managing general partner of the Oakland Raiders.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
http://www.raidersites.com/
July 18th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Is the strike over yet?
July 18th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
No. I think the owners will try to play their stupid game for a couple of days longer.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Couple of days? You may be a little optimistic.
July 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I exude optimism.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:55 am
RAIDER Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
And you’re still moneyless, car-less, and homeless, Raccoon. How you doing, ol buddy?
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Workin hard to make a living, and enjoy a few of the finer things in life.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Good morning Nation!
I guess teams are NOT allowed to contact any players yet, huh? Come on…get this over with!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 5:59 am
I won’t be mad if we used a 3rd on Pryor in the sup draft, but I sure wish we weren’t going into the next draft down a 2nd and 4th already.
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If you’re confident Hue Jackson & Al Saunders can develop the guy, draft him!
Al Davis can always trade players or future picks for a 2nd, 3rd or 4th round pick next draft
July 19th, 2011 at 6:09 am
THOUGHT THE SUPPLEMENTAL-DRAFT WAS THIS MONTH SOMETIME…
July 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Dam…the crickets are loud this monring!
Dirt Lot, I think so it is…but the end of July is in less than two weeks, right?
July 19th, 2011 at 7:25 am
I agree RR I just don’t see it happening with us already out a 2nd and 4th.
Its going to be real interesting to see how fast teams move if Free Agency does in fact start on Monday the 25 as predicted.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:55 am
So it seems there will be a 3 day window for FA’s to be re-signed by their current team.
Does Al use that time to go hard after Nnamdi, or does he not even get serious with him?
Does he through enough money at Bush to where he signs, or does Bush decide to see what the market is for him?
I’m pretty sure Zack Miller will be priority #1 and will be signed in the first day of the 3 days.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:09 am
I guess Steve Wynn is none to happy with our prez.
He is a major democratic donor, has supported Harry Reid for years, and just blasted BO yesterday in his conference call with shareholders.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:10 am
JFB
looks like Al will have his work cut out for him on Monday as we are currently $11.7 million over the cap.
However this has never been a problem in the past so I am guessing he has already been working on this.
what will be interesting to see is how much tampering is going on behind the scenes….how many free agents already know where they are going but not saying anything about it.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:14 am
I think Al will let Nnamdi test the market, although there is still that ‘Right of first refusal’ clause the owners are trying to slide through, so Al may just have to match the best offer Nnamdi gets to keep. Its going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks for sure.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Steve Wynn just like every other business owner he is concerned about HIS business plan and how laws will affect his profits. Now if he would have been in Oil he would have nothing to worry about because we all know that Chevron and BP don’t pay taxes.
It sucks when the corporate tax laws cater to a industry and its unfair to the investors. I would say this to Steve, the DOW was under 7,000 in 2008 and is now at 12,500 this is called investor confidence. So as you can see Mr Wynn is not the ONLY business owner in America.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:16 am
With a short window, it might be tougher than years past to work that salary cap magic.
How do you get under the cap in 3 days? You have to restructure some guys, but they don’t HAVE to restructure. Al has to intice them to do so, by giving them more guaranteed long-term money, while lowering their 2011 salary number.
I think the years of doing this has caught up to him, and it will only get harder from here.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Steve is pretty stupid and easily fooled for such a brillant man
July 19th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Investor confidence is up, because the Google’s and Chevron’s of the world are doing fine.
Why are they doing fine? Favorable tax treatment.
And the Dow was never under 7,000 in 2008. It was 2009 (post-inauguration) that it hit there. It never went below 10,000 until about a month before the election, when it went from 11+ to 8 in a month.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:25 am
3 years $40 million for Nnamdi with the 3rd year as a club option should get it done.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:27 am
3 years $40 million for Nnamdi with the 3rd year as a club option should get it done.
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LOL!!
Your not serious are you?
The guy is going to get 75+ guaranteed, and probably will become the highest paid defensive player ever.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:31 am
75 million guaranteed ????
You think that salary cap floor is going to translate big for Nnamdi, eh?
Revis is the best corner in the league and he’s only getting $11 million a year.
Well the Raiders surely are out of it then.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:36 am
No inclination from the John Clayton and Mort’s of the world that he is even going to get a paycut.
I heard Clayton say he expect him to get 4 or 5 years, at somewhere between 14-18 per.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Houston is going to offer him 18-20mil a year. 3-4 years
July 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
So what is Hue Jackson’s thoughts on spending 15 million or so a year on a CB?
If Al Davis would let Lane Kiffin come in and due without Randy Moss, I wonder if Hue will be able to spend that 15 million on Chad Johnson and Logan Mankins?
July 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
What’s the matter Bri Bri? Ever since I demoted you to private from your self-appointed general rank, you don’t like me?
Remember how much your other troll names used to like me? Oh, that’s right, your other troll handles hate me too…because I’m one of the multitudes who know you’re a self-possessed, testosterone-laden, chauvenist, homophobe and bigot. The trifecta. How you convince other people you’re on the up with them is beyond me. Even your troll buddies and make-believe friends know what you’re really about.
What we all know, is that you have serious issues…at least as serious as MR (another of your “friends”…but ONLY when you need him to be for your one-sided discussions).
Hell, Bri…even KK has your number! And let me give you some advice on KK, since you seem to be clueless about such things: When one retires from a 20+ year as a Navy enlisted man (especially in the 80’s), he does not retire a rich man. All credit to the man for his service — being a Vet myself, I have the utmost respect for his sacrifices. But as such, he gets a nominal monthly stipend…nothing like the pay you would get if you were an actual general, ya dig. So…stop pumping the old guy up so much — his money is HER money, you know what I mean? It’s why he has floor-duty in the office on weekends (especially when Mama’s out of town, which is a lot). You two guys keep up the witty repartee, though. It’s kinda fun watching KK get the best of you.
And, give my regards to your make-believe friend Norcomabob “in Orlando with Louis Murphy.” Just like the Raiders’ strength and conditioning coach has you
dialed-in to what Al Davis has planned for the Team. Even before Al has decided what he’s going to do (because even He doesn’t know who’s going to be available yet). I’m sure the coach you like to quote just LOVES being associated with one of the blog’s biggest trolls, giving away “inside” information. You know Al just loves that stuff.
C’mon Brientheprivate…give us some more insights! Can you do it without trying to be the bad-ass bully of the blog? Even if you can’t…the next time I sit next to you at Ricky’s, I’ll buy you a beer anyway. After all, you do SEEM to be a fan.
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Ha, the leader of the Girl Scouts has zero power to demote me.
Self possessed? Homophobe? Chauvinist? Testosterone-laden? Bigot? HAHAHAHAHA you sound like a bitter d**e at a Women’s rally.
How I convince people are on the up with me? LMAO sounds like sour grapes right there. Quit whinin you bz and pull your skirt down.
Make believe friends? HAHAHAHA more sour grapes. Dummy a few other bloggers already met the Bauce and Norco Bob, so what is it you’re exactly saying? Raiders strength and conditioning coach is always at Merchants at Jack London Square. He sees you with a Raider hat or jacket on he will walk up and talk to you! Its hilarious to me that those who doubt it are the same ones who hardly leave the house. Maybe if you get out of the house every now and then you may run into folks. Its California you dumbass and people are always out and about.
One sided discussions? LOL sounds like you’re just another bitter baby who is upset that the Bauce has wrecked you at every angle possible. You just have no get back. LOL now MR is my friend hahahahahahaha. No one on this site has dogged MR like me. He is against the Raiders.
Kell has my number? BWHAHAHAHAHAHA. Now I officially know you’re not here with us all. I guess the engine is running but no one is behind the wheel lol. When it came to me getting on Russell what did Kell say? How about him saying NAACP was started by black people? How about me playing his link game and proving him wrong? How about him not answering those results? How about Kell talking about Jesus pimps but then gt upset when MLK gets exposed as one himself? How about him believing he FED is a govt bank? How about the Elway wouldnt play for the Raiders thing? Who saves and copies my posts? Think you better review again who is besting who here lol. Its a landslide.
Who gives a damn if you and Kell were vets. As far as his money line….dumbass he is the one always bragging about his travels and his affluent life not me. What the fk does the Navy service gotta do with his finances now? Aint he a real estate big time seller or what have you? You dont make any damn sense you fool
Norco Bob is one of the realest Raiders I know. You can’t compare to him or me on this Raider schit. He damn sure chopped it up with Murphy in Orlando, apparently he was there doing some promo schit with other players there. LOL you dont think coaches dont talk? What about last year when I posted that a friend of mine was at Merchant’s last spring talking with Coach Hue and coach Brad? They both said Russell wont listen or work for schit….lo and behold guess who got axed a few weeks later? Dumbass
You aint sitting with me at Ricky’s, I’ll take the beer mug and put in work on your face. I dont like lil soft ass punks like you. That today is great to be a Raider fan crap is lame. You make us all sick with that square opening line.
I go to games…..you?
July 19th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Ramrod lmao!…Super Troopers!……”I want a Liter of Cola”….”You mean Shenanigans?”
July 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Al already spent that $15 million on Routt and Wimbley (if he stays franchised).
July 19th, 2011 at 8:46 am
# J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:43 am
So what is Hue Jackson’s thoughts on spending 15 million or so a year on a CB?
If Al Davis would let Lane Kiffin come in and due without Randy Moss, I wonder if Hue will be able to spend that 15 million on Chad Johnson and Logan Mankins?
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Would be the ultimate dream there. Would ya miss Huff and Aso then
July 19th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Nnamdi….please sign with Houston the moment FA starts so we can all move on
July 19th, 2011 at 8:52 am
and Wimbley (if he stays franchised).
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Didn’t Wimbley sign a deal already?
July 19th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Farva your suspension… continues.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Wimbleys tag isnt very cap friendly and I think a long term deal for him would be mutually beneficial.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Didn’t Wimbley sign a deal already?
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He signed something for $10 million a year, but than it was supposedly against those rules and was voided, I believe, but who knows.
Routt did sign a deal, and got about a $5 million per year raise.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Do we want Wimbley long-term though?
He seems like a one-trick pony to me. Really good at his one trick, but he is a tweener, and a liability in the run game and in coverage.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Vegas…..yeah but you gotta love his ability to come off the edge when its 3rd down
July 19th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Yeah but is that worth $10 million this year, or probably something like 4 years $27 million long-term?
He gets his sacks in bunches, than disappears for a month.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Wimbley will get better in this system as Romac grows. Remember Wimbley was a first year guy in the 4-3. I still think we should bring in Takeo Spikes. He will help Romacs growth and will definitely improve our run defense.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
I think 4 years 18-20 million could get it done. That franchise tag was WAY out of line for salary range for Wimbley
July 19th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Wimbley is very crucial to our D though looking at his stats.
He didn’t record a sack in 10 games last year. Our record in those 10 games?
3-7
OK…..bring him back, lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Do we want Wimbley long-term though?
Not sure he is worth what we are paying him.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
So it seems there will be a 3 day window for FA’s to be re-signed by their current team.
Does Al use that time to go hard after Nnamdi, or does he not even get serious with him?
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JFB,
Prediction:
Al Davis goes after Zmiller, Bush, Satele & Reece during those 3 days. Probably Condo & Bryant as well
Asomugha & Huff won’t get a sniff
July 19th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Maybe we can get TK to restructure, and back-load his contract with Weinerschnitzel gift cards.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Semi Pros,
what is the deadline to get franchise players who haven’t signed the tag (like Wimbley) signed to a long-term deal?
Is there one? Has it already passed?
Is that an item that will be revealed once this labor dispute is resolved?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Murdoch just had some crazy guy try to put pie in his face at his hearing, LOL.
His wife came in and decked the dude.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:08 am
…if Free Agency does in fact start on Monday the 25 as predicted.
looks like Al will have his work cut out for him on Monday as we are currently $11.7 million over the cap
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thanks for the info, Silver!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:08 am
If the cap is 120 mill, giving Nnamdi 15 mill means you’re committing 12.5% of your payroll to one player.
1/8 of the team’s total payroll to a cornerback ?
Only way I commit that type of money to a single player is if he’s a franchise QB.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Houston is going to offer him 18-20mil a year. 3-4 years
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Washington is going to land Nnamdi Asomugha. They’ll dump McNabb & Fat Albert
then offer #21 a $100 million contract
July 19th, 2011 at 9:12 am
How on Earth a team could be fresh off 8 straight years without a playoff sniff, yet still be short on draft picks and over the cap is beyond me.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I still think we should bring in Takeo Spikes.
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in place of who?
I like Groves & Goethel.
Sam Williams & Ricky Brown are special teams aces
I’ll take Spikes in place of Thomas Howard & Bruce Davis for sure!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Maybe we can get TK to restructure, and back-load his contract with Weinerschnitzel gift cards
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LOL!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Oakland Raiders outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley signed his one-year, $11.312 million franchise tender, according to FOX Sports.
Wimbley, who recorded nine sacks last season, is expected to get a long-term deal eventually.
For now, the unresolved labor situation prevents that from happening.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:18 am
yeah but you gotta love his ability to come off the edge when its 3rd down
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10 games without a sack?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:20 am
thanks J Wiggle! (re KW)
reading PFT, Bulger doesn’t want to play for the Cardinals, but Kevin Kolb does?
Logan Mankins & Vincent Jackson either want to be declared free agents, or they want $10 million for last season.
Interesting
July 19th, 2011 at 9:22 am
where else could Marc Bulger start in the NFL besides AZ?
Minny or Cincy while Ponder & Dalton are groomed?
You’d think these teams would prefer Orton & McNabb
July 19th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Here’s Wimbley’s season:
A sack week 1 and 2.
No sacks the next 4 games (not even an assisted tackle in the AZ game, just zeroe’s across the board; great job)
1.5 against Denver, and 1 against Seattle the next week.
Than no sacks for 3 weeks, and another stinker against Miami
1 sack against SD, than another 3 weeks without a sack (and back-to-back weeks with just 1 tackle) and he closes it out with 3 sacks against KC.
I don’t know. Not very consistant, you can’t disappear for 2 months, than come in and get 3 sacks the season-opener and get a massive pay-raise, IMO.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:27 am
*3 sacks the season-ender I meant
July 19th, 2011 at 9:28 am
last year’s Supplemental Draft took place on July 15
when will it be this year, if FA starts next week?
training camp usually starts in July too, right?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Hmmm i wonder what old man Al has up his sleeve this year? Every year he hits us with a huge off season move that gives the nation a dose of excitement and enthusiasm. Sometimes it fizzles, like moss, and sapp, but he last two years have been more than solid, with seymore and wimbly. i cant wait to find out what Al and hu jack have in store for us this year.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:29 am
My guess:
Hasselbeck to Tenn
Kolb to Seattle
McNabb to AZ
Nnamdi goes to the skins as RRS has predicted many times in here.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:29 am
I dont think they had any intentions of keeping him to the franchise tag, but as Rock just said, they had to because of the lockout
July 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
They were talking NFL network this morning about Aso. They were predicting a team could possibly come out of the gate and offer Aso a $20M contract…But for sure he is going to get $17M a year.
Wonder how an Aso sigining would help a team put butts in the seats? Whoever signs him gets HUGE press, “Blank Team” signs Aso to shore up defense.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
JFB,
so basically … Wimbley runs hot & cold like the rest of the defense. He’s inconsistant and he’s takes plays off
another talented dude that plays when he wants to
July 19th, 2011 at 9:30 am
” i cant wait to find out what Al and hu jack have in store for us this year.”
I would laugh if it was Trent Edwards!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Shanahan and Wolf are running things in DC now, not Snyder. I dont think they spend that kind of dough on Nnamdi. Houston has been my guess all along and I am sticking too it. Houston would be an instant contender with Nnamdi in the mix imo.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:33 am
I can dig the concern as well but also I’d like to see Wimbley total qb pressures and hits. I like him as a pass rusher. LB leaves alot to be desired but he may be our best SLB in a long time
July 19th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Orton, McNabb, Young, Bulger, Hasselbeck & Kolb
Do the Raiders express interest in ANY of these guys?
I think theres a better chance we re-sign Gradkowski, Frye or O’Sullivan.
Maybe even go for another 1st round bust like Harrington, Ramsey or Leinart…
July 19th, 2011 at 9:34 am
My guess:
Hasselbeck to Tenn
Kolb to Seattle
McNabb to AZ
Nnamdi goes to the skins as RRS has predicted many times in here.
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Orton to Minnesota…
Bungels get anyone?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:34 am
I always had a hunch that Minny would be a player for Nnamdi, due to their new coach, and wanting a new stadium with a frienly, community-driven guy like Nnamdi. Plus the new coach is a former DB.
But it probably will come down to Houston or Tampa it seems.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Al does have something up his sleeve Mistic. But we can only guess to what that is
July 19th, 2011 at 9:36 am
@Rockstar
The only reason I advocated Florzell Adams over resigning Walker is that Florzell is supposed to be a mean/dirty player and might fit the mystique of the Raiders building a bully. But I really did not follow how he played last year for the Steelers. Went from the Franchise left tackle for the Cowboys to Fat-Pud…
July 19th, 2011 at 9:39 am
@Just Fire Baby
Your a film junkie? How have teams been blocking Wimbley when he is playing LB? Does he disapear or are teams putting extra effort to make sure he is blocked?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Gonna be a wild season for damn sure guys. Every team gonna have major issues. May be to our advantage
July 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Shanahan and Wolf are running things in DC now, not Snyder. I dont think they spend that kind of dough on Nnamdi. Houston has been my guess all along and I am sticking too it. Houston would be an instant contender with Nnamdi in the mix imo
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Allen & Shanny would love nothing more than to rob Al Davis of his best player. Snyder still writes the paychecks and it’s been reported (on PFT – take that for what it’s worth) they’ll make a big splash in FA this offseason. CB’s Carlos Rogers & Phillip Buchanon are unrestricted free agents. McNabb & Haynesworth will be sent packing shortly
Nnamdi doesn’t care about playing for a winner imo. He’s going to the highest bidder. A “source” close to #21 said he didn’t want anything to do with Houston when those rumors first came out. Maybe that’s a smokescreen – I don’t know. If Nnamdi wants to play for a winner he’ll sign with the Pats, Eagles or Ravens for a lot less than $10 million per season (which will not happen)
July 19th, 2011 at 9:40 am
“Bungels get anyone?”
What if they traded Carson Palmer to the Bills and got Orton from the Orange fecal matter donkeys?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
IMO Andy Dalton was the best QB taken in the draft. I would bet they start him right away.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
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# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
Hmmm i wonder what old man Al has up his sleeve this year? Every year he hits us with a huge off season move that gives the nation a dose of excitement and enthusiasm. Sometimes it fizzles, like moss, and sapp, but he last two years have been more than solid, with seymore and wimbly. i cant wait to find out what Al and hu jack have in store for us this year.
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My guess is Vince Young is this year’s shocker.
First round pick with collegiate championship under his belt. 30-19 record as a pro.
At the very least would solve the backup QB dilemma the Raids currently face. Would probably unseat JaJason very quickly.
Perfect Al Davis reclamation project.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Bengals might as well start the rook lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:44 am
it probably will come down to Houston or Tampa
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Are the Bucs pushing Ronde Barber or Aqib Talib out the door?
unless they convert Ronde to FS or can Aqib due to his off-the-field antics I think they’ll stay put in the secondary.
The Bucs need to work on that Defensive front seven!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I dont envy any rookie qb who has to play the steelers and ravens twice a year… ouch.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Haha VY AGAIN. This one is becoming comical. You hate JC…we get it. But VY cant pass a football at all. Makes awful decisions and isnt accurate. That’s disaster and you know better
July 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
The Bucs have to spend FIFTY MILLION in FA… they can sign Nnamdi and work on their front 7 (which i think is young but better than given credit for)
July 19th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Bcz…..dont toss out Browns. I like McCoy and all those players Holmgren has drafted
July 19th, 2011 at 9:49 am
“Perfect Al Davis reclamation project.”
Not at 10 million its not.
Raiderman99 we have been through this a few times in here about VY and for one he is too expensive and he does not have the arm strength Al covets in a QB.
IMO he is done a head case wont take a pay cut.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Tampa a dangerous squad even without all that cap space. NFC South is a warzone
July 19th, 2011 at 9:53 am
My guess is Vince Young is this year’s shocker.
First round pick with collegiate championship under his belt. 30-19 record as a pro.
At the very least would solve the backup QB dilemma the Raids currently face. Would probably unseat JaJason very quickly.
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You’re Glo sucks propoganda takes a HUGE hit when you endorse VY and Gardowski.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am
What about the Seahawks they have a lot of money and are not afraid to pay for a guy like Nnamdi?
It would be interesting if he went to a team that was not what we all thought.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:56 am
666….if you dont like JC fine….but the VY a better option over JC stuff this guy spews is ridiculous. Guy cant pass at all. Never showed it! He isnt a professional qb. He lacks accuracy and decision making
July 19th, 2011 at 9:58 am
The Bucs have to spend FIFTY MILLION in FA…
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Do they have to spend it this year?
And do they have to spend it on FAs?
Can they redo some of their own players contracts?
It seems like it would be unfait to Tampa to have to spend $ on this year’s FA. What if they don’t like any of the players out there?
Does some scrub get 15 million a year just so they can get in cap compliance this year?
Won’t those eff’d up contracts mess up their cap next year? Or maybe their ability to sign one of their own guys who’s contract expires next year?
July 19th, 2011 at 9:59 am
666…..seattle? Dont he wanna win a title? Carrol sucks man. That team is going nowhere. The LA Rams?..will be fighting with SF for the next few years
July 19th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Bause I never once have supported the VY banter see post 666
I like JC and I want him to succeed but I do not feel confident about him because of what he has shown in the past.
This is his year to prove to everyone he deserves to be a starter on our team, its his to lose.
As far as Gradkowski he was a BACKUP he was brought in here to back up our starter. You cant compare him to JC because of those circumstances. IMO
July 19th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Bauce sorry I misspelled your name in my last post.
“666…..seattle? Dont he wanna win a title?”
He would have a better chance in Seattle than in Washington I would guess.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:04 am
RAIDERMAN99 might be right on the Vince Young thing.
The Raiders can spin the signing a la Michael Vick signing of the Eagles two years ago, a place where Young can get his head together and learn from Hue Jackson and Al Saunders. Maybe be a wildcat QB?
The Raiders can then Franchise and trade Young the following year, if JC comes through and becomes the QB we hope he will become. Remember Davis signed Charlie Frye because of the performance he had as a Brown against the Raiders. Vince Young had a pretty good game last year against us and good be the same story as Frye.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:05 am
I believe TB will be wise with thier cheddar
July 19th, 2011 at 10:06 am
If Nnamdi wanting to play for a contending team is true he will have to take a pay cut. There arent that many good teams that can afford to pay 17 mil or more per year for a db. I think to get paid and play for a winner he has two options, tampa, and gulp….oakland. he wont get 17 mil here but Al isnt bashful about paying big bucks, specifically when it comes to a db. Larry brown, deangello hall, gabril wilson, and Nnamdi himself all come to mind.
Never count out Davis and the silver black when it comes to signing free agent talent, the autumn wind is a pirate that loves to blow big money
July 19th, 2011 at 10:08 am
666….im on record saying JC has no excuses anymore. Gotta make it happen
July 19th, 2011 at 10:10 am
As far as Gradkowski he was a BACKUP he was brought in here to back up our starter. You cant compare him to JC because of those circumstances. IMO
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Of course they can be compared.
The issue is the #1 QB spot, and both had a chance at the job last year. To compare what both guys brought to the table is a fair subject for debate.
I still think we should bring Gardowski back. So what if he thinks he is better than Glo?
July 19th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Vince Young: who is going to sign him to a $10M contract?
What team is going to pay him to be a starter?
The best the guy can hope for is to be signed a backup QB. Not saying it is fair, but it is realistic.
What teams are in the markert for Vince Young?
@Bauce, many said the same thing about Michael Vick not being a really NFL QB. Maybe it was BS with Vick and correct for VY.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:11 am
DutchRaider77
VY is due 10 million dollars.
will he take a 60% or greater cut in pay?
However living in California might be good for him because it would be harder to get his hands on a gun and act on his suicidal tenancies.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:12 am
I’d like to see Edwards and Gardowski as our backup QBs this season.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:14 am
If we get lucky and are able to hold onto Bush one more year, we better trade his arsse!
If we plan to go back to giving this guy his 3-8 carries a game, I say it’s a big waste of time!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
S&B666, If VY is released, he will not get 10 million.
He will come at a lower cost. I’d guess anywhere from 6-8. Won’t be cheap though. But it’s important to note he will not cost any draft picks.
If you can pay Wimbley and Routt 10 million, you can take a gamble on VY for less.
Most Raider fans still don’t understand the significance of last year’s Raider handling of the QB situation.
We debate whether it was Cable’s or Hue’s call to bench JaJason. Not once, but twice.
Doesn’t matter if it was one or the other, or both.
Bottom line is you better believe Al signed on to that decision. No way it goes down without his approval.
Also the delay in putting Grads on IR was indicative the Raids were still hoping there could be an alternative to JaJason.
The significance of these actions should not be underestimated.
Forget the ‘JC is the unquestioned starter’ lip service. That’s all window dressing. Campbell’s grip on the starting gig is alot more tenuous than most fans believe.
Even if it’s not VY, something has to go down at the QB position. Unless Al is content with Boller, Frye, or maybe bringing back Grads. I’d be surprised if a move wasn’t made, and I think it might be a shocker.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
J Hill
yes you can compare them if you like but remember that Gradkowski was brought in here to be a backup and JC was brought in here and paid starter money. So the expectation levels were very different, is all that I am saying.
I liked the fire Gradkowski brought to the huddle the team seemed to rally around his confidence.
But those choices are not up to me or he would still be our backup.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:17 am
“I’d like to see Edwards and Gardowski as our backup QBs this season.”
I would love to see this, I have said all along that I like Edwards.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:19 am
“Even if it’s not VY, something has to go down at the QB position. Unless Al is content with Boller, Frye, or maybe bringing back Grads. I’d be surprised if a move wasn’t made, and I think it might be a shocker.”
Good post Raiderman99
I would say the same thing that Al is not content with the QB’s currently on the roster and we will see a move.
Now lets bring back the Carson Palmer debate as he would play for a small amount of money he said he is set financially could be a very small risk to bring him here.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Drew Brees and Peyton Manning both are requesting to be exempt from the franchise tag for the rest of their careers, according to Greg A. Bedard of the Boston Globe.
Bedard’s source says that would be effective immediately, which would conceivably make Manning an unrestricted free agent next week. (Now that would fun.)
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Manning ????
July 19th, 2011 at 10:24 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Most Raider fans still don’t understand the significance of last year’s Raider handling of the QB situation.
We debate whether it was Cable’s or Hue’s call to bench JaJason. Not once, but twice.
Doesn’t matter if it was one or the other, or both.
Bottom line is you better believe Al signed on to that decision. No way it goes down without his approval.
Also the delay in putting Grads on IR was indicative the Raids were still hoping there could be an alternative to JaJason.
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Reckless speculation that isnt even plausible.
This was nothing more than Davis allowing Cable to pick the shovel that he would dig his own grave with.
“you want to bench him? bench him”- Al davis to cable
Cable didnt want to put his hero on IR but Davis stepped in and ended cables miserable attempt at handling the personnel. This was done at the same time to reinstall JC to the starter position which he rightfully earned and deserved based on his production on the field. the only people on earth that didnt thinks so was the loser cable, and some of these impostor fan bloggers.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
J Hill
Did you know that on April 24th 2004 AJ Smith and the Chargers had Drew Brees, Eli Manning and Rivers on their roster.
Notice the 2 QB’s they traded away have won Super Bowls!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Drew Brees and Peyton Manning both are requesting to be exempt from the franchise tag for the rest of their careers, according to Greg A. Bedard of the Boston Globe.
Bedard’s source says that would be effective immediately, which would conceivably make Manning an unrestricted free agent next week. (Now that would fun.)
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Plaintiffs getting greedy huh? I doubt that they will allows their personal preferences to get in the way of the other 1500+ players livelihoods once push comes to shove.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Peyton Manning is just dying to get out of his contract, so that he can come play for Al Davis, Yipeeee!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Al had to save Cable from his Fargas man-crush fo sho.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Lol you gotta be joking. Al will let coaches play who they want but they better get it right. To even think Al would ever want Grad in over JC is beyond false. But this sign off crap on the move is evenn worse
July 19th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Hahahahaha Kell now that was actually funny
July 19th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Clearly the QB situation is not settled. We only have 2 on the roster, so of course something will get done.
I just find it really hard to believe that Gardowski was ever annointed by Al Davis. I believe Cable when he says it was his call. The HC makes the call as to who plays each week. Look at the reports on how was upset that Cable didn’t play Bruce Campbell all season. Look at a guy like Thomas Howard being singled out by Cable and relegated to the bench.
I could be wrong, but Gardowski CLEARLY was a Cable guy. Cable went out on a limb at the end of the prior season and said if Gardowski had started all year instead of Russell, they would’ve been a playoff team. Gardowski kinda saved Cable’s job that year, so I have no problem with him going with his boy.
You’re right, we’re talking backup QB. If Hue Jackson or Al Davis did in fact think Gardowski was a better option as a starter last year, why would they not even talk to him about being the #3?
Doesn’t make any sense to me.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Farglass starting was just as embarrassing as McCown at qb
July 19th, 2011 at 10:37 am
We will have a 3rd qb guys. Boller will be our backup. Hue likes the guy so does Al. Would like Trent but I dunno if its gonna happen
July 19th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Funniest story out there to me is Tiger Woods having $ trouble.
LMFAO!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:39 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Farglass starting was just as embarrassing as McCown at qb
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Mccown over culpepper?!?!?! ridiculous. Should have kept culpepper while we built a solid support for no.2
July 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Jhill excellent post. Grad skill sets do not match our offensive system. He is suited for a WCO if he is to start.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:40 am
699.J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Funniest story out there to me is Tiger Woods having $ trouble.
LMFAO!
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Maybe J. Russell can loan him some money if things get tight for Tiger?
July 19th, 2011 at 10:42 am
I’m broke b/c I had to give a big chunk of my change to a former nanny and some lawyers.
I still think that Euro golfer and the nanny had this planned from the gitty up, lol. Pretty sure he got a percentage of the settlement.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Mistic, do you really believe Al didn’t have the final say on which QB was getting the starting nod ?
You think Al wasn’t going to veto Cable if he disagreed with him ?
You think Al was going to let Cable blow a shot at the playoffs by pulling Campbell, so he could fire Cable later ?
Get real.
If you don’t think Al signed on to that decision you don’t understand how things work in Oakland.
The handling of the QB situation last season is evidence of what Al’s really thinking. What’s speculation (and silly speculation at that) is that Al was just allowing Cable to dig his own grave.
Interesting to note that not once in his presser did Al mention that Cable mishandled the QB situation.
Read into that whatever you want.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
I just wonder if Al is gonna make a trade
July 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Get Orton. Best QB available. Hell no on Pryor. Trade that pick, hell trade em all for proven players.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:45 am
speaking of no.2, i can remember last off season hearing in the barber shop about him high at the club, in the parking lot smoking, cruising the high schools for chicks and so on. There was even a person i knew at 24 hour fitness that told me no.2 was going to be cut. hu Jack worked out at that gym when he first came to the bay and was stood up by no.2 for workouts on at least 3 occasions. hu jack was pissed.
Word on the street was right as no.2 didnt even make it out of camp.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:46 am
In comment 689 Mistic accuses someone of ‘reckless speculation’,then follows with his own speculation.The only ones who really know what happened with the QBs last year are those involved-the coaches and the old man.I’m not sticking up for either argument,but the old man did mention at the press conference that they tried to go with BG but he couldn’t stay healthy.He never mentioned his lack of talent.But what does it matter now,Campbell is the starter and unless he is brought in if the CBA is ratified,Grads is gone.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Yeah, Mistic. Hue came in and his first order of business was to get rid of our only decent backup QB. That’s believable.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Speaking of culpepper he would be a great qb to bring in to back up JC, probwl level nfl experience, the coveted al davis requsite skill set and arm, and he wouldnt cost much at all.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Didn’t Jason Campbell have a couple of games where his QB rating was below 20?
I don’t recall Jason Campbell really putting the team on his back and winning games for us very often if ever…..unless you count the SD game where SD’s turnovers had much more to do with the win than he did.
He can manage a game okay when the run game is dominating the opposition, other than that he is pretty useless.
Garbagekowski was trash too.
I try not to waste my time thinking much about either of them because I don’t view them as the long-term solution to our QB problem. For no Campbell is acceptable because there really are no great options out there, so we might as well roll with him in 2011, but we damned sure better find a QB for 2012.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Lol….ninerwoman49 is in rare form today. You really telling me after a 3 gm win streak one road bad game Al would want JC to sit? Grad didnt start and finish one win last season. See what im gettin at?
July 19th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Guy who outed Rupert Murdoch is dead. The papers are calling him a drunk and a coke addict. His bravery didn’t come without a price. But nonetheless, the job is done. He’s a hero.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:54 am
****Wrong argument fellas. It aint at the QB position. The problem is at the corner position********
I think JC is going to do a good job this year. I am more worried about the line than the QB. I think he got in a good rythm with WRs once he got the go ahead nod. The thing with JC is he can place the ball were our WR need it to make plays. He also ahs the arm strength to put the ball donw the field with our speedy WRs. We have not a had a QB in the long time tha could just throw a nice spiral 30+ yards down field and let the WRs make plays on the ball. JC can throw a laser or two.
I am more worried about the defensive side of the ball. I think we will miss Nnamdi more then we think we will. You know what they say. You never know what you had until it is gone. We really need a decent repladcement corner for this guy. Two thinktwo rookies can come into our system and just get it. Is crazy! Man to man aint easy in the Raider scheme of things.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:55 am
# RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Mistic, do you really believe Al didn’t have the final say on which QB was getting the starting nod ?
You think Al wasn’t going to veto Cable if he disagreed with him ?
You think Al was going to let Cable blow a shot at the playoffs by pulling Campbell, so he could fire Cable later ?
Get real.
If you don’t think Al signed on to that decision you don’t understand how things work in Oakland.
The handling of the QB situation last season is evidence of what Al’s really thinking. What’s speculation (and silly speculation at that) is that Al was just allowing Cable to dig his own grave.
Interesting to note that not once in his presser did Al mention that Cable mishandled the QB situation.
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Im not reading into anything, i just listned to what davis said, during the episode, and at the presser. arent hese davis’s words ” when campbell was pulled i wanted to know why” ” your the head coach If you want to bench him then bench him”.
Davis let cable make the call its really that simple. he only over ruled him when it was clear that scabs wasnt good enough. Davis swooped and put scabs on ir even while cabls was touting a possible return date for his little hero.
By the way are you new to raider football? davis is infamous for letting coaches twist in the wind. When you dont hear from davis you are in trouble. yes davis lets coaches hang themselves. ask kiffin callahan and cable
July 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
d@mn sorry about the spelling errors fella’s you get what I am saying. : )
July 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
d@mn sorry about the spelling errors fella’s you get what I am saying. : )
July 19th, 2011 at 10:56 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/NFL-games-are-about-to-get-longer-and-more-repla?urn=nfl-wp3507
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Micro managing the game to death. Hate hate hate you Paul Tagliabue. KNEW selling the NFL to mega corps would ruin the game and we’re well on our way.
The new rules are ALL about money. This one too.
“Just wanna get it right” bull****. Just wanna please the Vegas bookies and sell more add time.
Did I mention hate hate hate?!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:57 am
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Guy who outed Rupert Murdoch is dead. The papers are calling him a drunk and a coke addict. His bravery didn’t come without a price. But nonetheless, the job is done. He’s a hero.
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So is “Johnnie Marbles”. Pie that old b*st*rd!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Dakota….i disagree with useless. A game managing qb with the arm JC has is not useless. He isnt some all world qb no doubt but he can move the chains
July 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Pro sports as we know them have been doomed for some time, Nnmadi. What we’re watching today is basically the violinists as the ship sinks.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am
# lefty12 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:46 am
In comment 689 Mistic accuses someone of ‘reckless speculation’,then follows with his own speculation.
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Actually lefty i mentioned what davis actually said, there was no speculation involved.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Nnamdi, I was talking about the guy who outed Murdoch. He is who I was calling a hero.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Davis, do you think Al’s style of management is effective in today’s game?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
@Just Fire Baby
Your a film junkie? How have teams been blocking Wimbley when he is playing LB? Does he disapear or are teams putting extra effort to make sure he is blocked?
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Dutch,
I don’t have all the “film” but I earn my semi-pro stripes when I can reviewing games.
The thing I would say with Wimbley that is so agonizing, is his consistancy. One play he is abusing a Pro Bowl LT for a sack, the next play he is getting wipe-outted by a backup TE on a running play.
And teams, especially towards the end of the year, were running right at him all the time. You watch our big runs allowed, and way too often you would see 96 gridlocked at the LOS with the RB running right past him.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
My goodness. I need coffee. Let me try that again…
MISTIC, do you think Al’s style of management is effective in today’s game?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
720.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Dakota….i disagree with useless. A game managing qb with the arm JC has is not useless. He isnt some all world qb no doubt but he can move the chains
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Not totally useless, just pretty useless or nearly useless when the run game is not going. Like the players say “it is what it is”.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I’m not sticking up for either argument,but the old man did mention at the press conference that they tried to go with BG but he couldn’t stay healthy.
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Gardowski did nothing to get on the owners bad side, so him not bashing Gardowski in the presser is no surprise.
Again, I just look at the fact that the guy is not even wanted on the team as a backup as more proof, if you wanna call it that, that Gardowski was not prefered by Hue and Al. If he was, he’d still be on the team.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:05 am
What Murdoch did was about the lowest thing imaginable. To hack into the victims of 911 phones in hopes for a FOX news story is similar to a terrorist act if you ask me.
You watch he will get a way with a slap on the wrist.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:05 am
“Just wanna please the Vegas bookies”
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What do the Vegas bookies have to do with this ?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:07 am
I am more worried about the defensive side of the ball. I think we will miss Nnamdi more then we think we will.
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Stan Routt covered the other team’s best WR all last year. Except for the Az game, that is.
When you think about it, replacing the corner that is for the most part covering the other teams #2 or #3 WR should not be that hard.
Especially if we spend the 17 million we might have given him on other needs.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:08 am
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:00 am
My goodness. I need coffee. Let me try that again…
MISTIC, do you think Al’s style of management is effective in today’s game?
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Absolutely unequivocally, unquestionably, hell yes!!!
As a matter a fact I think he is one of the best owners in sports, not just sports history.
His plan doesnt always work, but no one has a plan that always works. My team has been in 5 superbowls!!! i saw them win 3 of them!!!! i love the way he evaluates talent, i like his forward thinking approach to offense and hiring young coaches. he finds a way to sighn players even in the face of all the al davis small market bs you always hear.
I would rather have al davis than any other owner for my team, and its not even close.
You think hes lost it, buckle your seat belt he will be in another suerbowl before he dies.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Mistic,how do you know Cable didn’t want to put BG on IR and that it was the old mans decision,He never said that at his press conference.Speculation on your part.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Agreed, 666. I said yesterday I thought Murdoch would get away with it too. Look at what just happened to the guy who outed him! Guy winds up dead, papers are calling him a drunk and a coke addict. As I said, Murdoch OWNS the media. Heck, he owns us. The backlash is already happening, and it’s just a matter of time before other news agencies get the message and start downplaying this story. Then he buys off whoever has to buy off in the courts, and his empire’s back to normal. If this does bring him down, though, good riddance. It would be almost as good as reenacting the Fairness Doctrine, considering the propaganda machine that FoxNews is.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Mistic, you really think Al’s one of the best owners in sports? Shouldn’t he have at least a few winning seasons in this 8 year span without one, I mean, if he’s one of the best? One of the best, dude. That’s a high compliment for an owner/gm who hasn’t seen a winning season since 2002.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Mistic, in the past 8 years, Al’s actually been one of the worst GM’s in the game. I mean the bottom 5. Does a GM who’s “one of the best” in the game go 8 years without a winning season? Does even remotely good GM?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
I think it’s a good thing that scoring plays will be reviewed. Not going to slow up the games at all.
Refs in the booth will buzz the on field official if the play is questionable.
DMac running the ball in from the 30 is not going to equal 3 more commercials.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
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Just last week I was driving home from a trip to San Diego and on HWY 85 north of Lusk Wyoming I came across a head on collision….luckily two cars where there before me so the ambulance had been called and had just arrived when I did, and I told myself I would get a refresher on CPR in case I ran across something like that in the future…..but I put it off when I got home and now this happened today.
In my early 20s I performed CPR on a woman who had a heart attack in a bowling alley and a year later on a man who had a heart attack while waterskiing. The woman survived, the man didn’t (he was clearly gone when they got him to shore but the park ranger and I started CPR anyhow because the man’s entire family was there and were desperate for hope)…..point is you never know.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Kind of fishy how the guy who outed him winds up dead!
And of course we all buy the lame story about how he died.
Sheep….bhhhhaaaaaa
July 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
“Just wanna get it right” bull****. Just wanna please the Vegas bookies and sell more add time.
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The NFL hates Vegas and won’t even let them advertise during their games.
Casino’s have to pay massive 6 figure sums to be “allowed” to throw Super Bowl showings/parties.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Jhill,remember,BG is a FA and FAs haven’t been able to sign for quite some time.He might be signed once this lockout BS is finished.The way the old man works,it is possible he and BG talked,BG said he wanted a chance to start so Davis told him to see what he could do.If he doesn’t get the opportunity to compete for a starting job elsewhere,the Raiders could them sign him as a back-up,and for a cheaper price since he wouldn’t be competing for the starting job.Now there is some speculation.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Kind of fishy how the guy who outed him winds up dead!
And of course we all buy the lame story about how he died.
Sheep….bhhhhaaaaaa
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Who’s we Troll666?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am
739.Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Kind of fishy how the guy who outed him winds up dead!
And of course we all buy the lame story about how he died.
Sheep….bhhhhaaaaaa
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I wonder if mtherfker Jones was involved?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am
666, you don’t mess with the bull and not get the horns. But that guy is a hero. Regardless of what these right wing cavemen say, most journalists are extremely smart people. They know who they’re messing with. And a lot of journalist probably knew what was going on with Murdoch’s empire, some of the shady practices, etc. They just stayed mum to save their own butts. This guy stepped up, and paid the ultimate price. He’s a hero. Because this one might sink the ship.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Mistic is the man….down with Al too
July 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Brien, “one of the best” GMs in the game goes 8 years without winning? Does even a remotely good GM go 8 years without winning?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Look at KK trying to separate himself from the media. when we all know he posts about 100 links to political related news articles in here every damn day!
keep on trying KK we all need the entertainment!
July 19th, 2011 at 11:22 am
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Brien, “one of the best” GMs in the game goes 8 years without winning? Does even a remotely good GM go 8 years without winning?
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Dude has LOST 57% of his games for the last 23 years.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:24 am
MR
If someone gets serious and digs deeper into Murdoch’s empire there is no telling what kind of skeletons are in his closet. But I doubt there is anyone else who would sacrifice their life to do it.
Your right the guy is a hero!
July 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Detroit had a similar record to ours from 2002 to 2010 and Matt Millen lost his GM job over it!
If Al was not the owner he would have been fired for his GM performance over the last 8 years.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:28 am
# lefty12 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Mistic,how do you know Cable didn’t want to put BG on IR and that it was the old mans decision,He never said that at his press conference.Speculation on your part.
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Cable said in his own post game and pressers, that he wanted to have scabs evaluated, and held off the ir designation in hopes scabs could return. Doesn’t anybody remember that pitiful look on cables face after the miami face plant?
Davis saved us all from that garbage, thats not speculation.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Brien and Mistic…
Let’s pretend Al Davis is on the market as a GM. Who hires him? I mean, he’s one of the best in the game, right? Surely there would be several suitors lined up.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Mistic, in the past 8 years, Al’s actually been one of the worst GM’s in the game.
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Could you be a bit more specific?
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
I think the Javon Walker signing, and the Steve Sarkisian fiasco set the rebuilding thing back.
I think Al has drafted well for the most part. Gallery, Huff, and Russell turned out to be huge busts, but most so called good GMs would’ve made those same picks.
Just curious what you would have done differently.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:32 am
“Let’s pretend Al Davis is on the market as a GM. Who hires him? I mean, he’s one of the best in the game, right? Surely there would be several suitors lined up.”
Can we include UFL and CFL teams?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:32 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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Lol
July 19th, 2011 at 11:33 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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How bout his record?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:34 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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How about the coaching carousel?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
He did have him re-evaluated and found out he wouldn’t be available for the near future.You still have no way of knowing who was responsible for putting BG on IR so you are just speculating.You don’t know that after the Miami game when it was evident BG was too injured to play that the coaches and the old man decided to put him on IR.Or that the coaches requested the old man to do it.YOU DON’T KNOW,and that means you are speculating.BTW,there is nothing wrong with that,that is what we do on here.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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How bout DeAngelo Hall, mfkr?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
If Al was not the owner he would have been fired for his GM performance over the last 8 years.
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Were the last 2 years bad?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:37 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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How about Javon Walker?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:38 am
750.Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Detroit had a similar record to ours from 2002 to 2010 and Matt Millen lost his GM job over it!
If Al was not the owner he would have been fired for his GM performance over the last 8 years.
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Al was historically bad the last 8-9 years and pretty damned bad for a couple of decades now.
He really does seem to take the “throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks” approach.
Hey lets get that old azz coach back here, no wait, lets try a young guy, wait lets trade a high second rounder for a CB that can’t play man to man and then give him a big contract, wait, now lets let the guy who CAN play man to man CB leave, hey lets draft that rocket armed QB out of LSU…..wait lets sign that noodle armed QB that used to be with the 49ers….hey lets hire that coach from NE who had been in a 3-4 system to run our D and we’ll make him try and do it with 4-3 linemen playing out of position….he has cool hair though and always talks great about the players……oh heck, lets give this fat dude a shot at HC I mean he looks like Madden…..hey Herrera what is on his resume? Never mind who cares that he couldn’t even coach a low level college team!
We need a GM with a plan who hires a HC with a plan who then work together to hire the proper coaches. In order to do that we will need a new owner.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Mistic, in the past 8 years, Al’s actually been one of the worst GM’s in the game. I mean the bottom 5. Does a GM who’s “one of the best” in the game go 8 years without a winning season? Does even remotely good GM?
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You must be brand new. This is so short sighted, but it is indicative of the microwave jiffy pop instant gratification psyche in the sports center sound bite A-D-D generation.
You look at the last eight years, where i look at the big picture. In order to appreciate Davis you must look at the whole history. is the nfl great only because of the last eight years, or do you consider the entire history of the league and all of its outstanding players? Why doesn’t davis get the same consideration?
Tampa hasnt done squat since we were in the superbowl, how long did the roony’s go before the chin won? How long has it been since the bears won? Bottom line if you dont win it all it doesnt mean anything. Comparing which loser had the worst record is a waste of time.
So go ahed and take the last handful of years as your foundation for rooting interest in the team. Ill take the team of the decades for mine
July 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
“What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?”
Lets see how about not allowing the D coordinator to call their own games making us play outdated schemes, limiting the amount of blitzes per game.
How about rehiring Art Shell?
How about letting Shannahan and Gruden go off and win super bowls somewhere else.
Embarrassing our organization during pressers with overhead projectors. Spending an hour trashing a coach that was fired instead of letting Hue Jackson have his day.
The Javon Walker signing, and the Steve Sarkisian fiasco which you already mentioned.
Not hiring a GM to help him
Firing head coaches every other year.
Allowing scholarship players and coaches to stay on board when they should have been replaced.
Most of all Sanjay lal?
And many many more…..
July 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
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How about LOSING 11 or more games for 7 of those years?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
J Hill,
I was going by Al’s won/loss record in the past 8 years. His record in that time is one of the worst. Do you not consider a won/loss record as a significant indicator as to how good a general manager has performed…THROUGHOUT AN 8 YEAR TIME SPAN?!?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
” how long did the roony’s go before the chin won?”
Look as his win loss record over those years and you could easily answer your own question.
(161-99-1 including playoff games)
I think we would all embrace that kind of winning percentage here in Oakland.
bad example Mistic!
July 19th, 2011 at 11:44 am
lmfao.
666, what cfl or ufl teams would even hire Al as a GM?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:46 am
We need a GM with a plan who hires a HC with a plan who then work together to hire the proper coaches. In order to do that we will need a new owner.
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What we’ve needed is some decent talent and a coach who know WTF he is doing.
The team that has been on top since we got robbed in the snow bowl didn’t have a GM, they just cheated better.
Since Al didn’t fire himself, what’s the point of this babble?
We have a team that is right there to challenge for the division. The GM has hired a solid coaching staff and has given that coaching staff the talent to get something done.
2003-2008 = bad GM’ing
2009 – present = not bad at all
July 19th, 2011 at 11:46 am
I love when people bring up all the old Super Bowls.
Hell man, I am 31 years old, full of gray hair, on blood pressure medication, and live in sin. I ain’t going to be around another 31 years.
Al hasn’t done squat for me since I have been alive.
3 AFC championship games, and got slaughtered in 2 of them. That’s what I got.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Mistic, you don’t think 8 years, 8 flippin years, is enough of a time frame to determine whether or not a GM is good? What sports franchise would give a GM 8 years to come up with a winning season?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:47 am
MR
why of course the saskatchewan roughriders
July 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am
So who was behind the Yamon Figurs debacle from last year?
Was that an Al, Hue or Cable call?
Whoever that was, that was awful.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:49 am
why of course the saskatchewan roughriders
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John Herrera’s old stomping grounds.
That’s Herrera’s pedigree. He GM’d the Rough Riders for a few years in the 80’s.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
J Hill,
You do understand it is the general manager or owner’s responsibility to hire a head coach and acquire decent talent, don’t you? Someone’s at the top of football operations, J Hill. Coaches don’t hire themselves, J Hill. Talent doesn’t draft itself, J Hill. Someone has to acquire it, J Hill. So, J Hill, do you think a GM that goes 8 years without a winning season is qualified to be that top guy?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:51 am
766.RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
J Hill,
I was going by Al’s won/loss record in the past 8 years. His record in that time is one of the worst. Do you not consider a won/loss record as a significant indicator as to how good a general manager has performed…THROUGHOUT AN 8 YEAR TIME SPAN?!?
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Certainly.
But I was just curious what YOU think a so called good GM would have done differently?
Draft differently?
Sign different FAs?
I don’t think 2003 – say 2005 could’ve been much differnt with our star players aging. We HAD to rebuild and rebuilding = sucking.
If Gallery and Russell pan out, how are things different for the Raiders?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:52 am
JFB
“and live in sin.”
My motto, I even have a sinners prayer I made up!
July 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
# Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:43 am
” how long did the roony’s go before the chin won?”
Look as his win loss record over those years and you could easily answer your own question.
(161-99-1 including playoff games)
I think we would all embrace that kind of winning percentage here in Oakland.
bad example Mistic!
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We have a different perspective, there is only one winner in a football season all runner up are the same. i dont care about win loss record, only superbowl victory.
who cares about finishing 12-4 or 4-12 if you dont win the big one.
Would the patsies trade that undefeated regular season for an 8-8 finish with a superbowl win? i bet they would.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill and Mistic,
I don’t believe I got an answer from you two.
Let’s pretend Al Davis is on the market as a GM. Something happens with the Raiders, they go belly up, all Oakland’s fault, not Al’s, just saying. Al, for whatever reason, is out of a team, and on the market as a general manager. What team hires him?
July 19th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I don’t think any GM would have hired Art Shell part deux.
Lane Kiffin was as unqualified as they come.
Jamarcus was as lazy as they come.
Javon was as immature and idiotic as they come.
DHB as raw as they come.
Massive, massive GM blunders off the top of my head.
I’ll give him a pass for Gallery, Huff, Cable (no options at the time) and even Deangelo since he at least has a resume.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:56 am
who cares about finishing 12-4 or 4-12 if you dont win the big one.
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Explain that to the people who lose their jobs when they go 4-12 and the people who get pay-raises after going 12-4.
July 19th, 2011 at 11:58 am
779.RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill and Mistic,
I don’t believe I got an answer from you two.
Let’s pretend Al Davis is on the market as a GM. Something happens with the Raiders, they go belly up, all Oakland’s fault, not Al’s, just saying. Al, for whatever reason, is out of a team, and on the market as a general manager. What team hires him?
Who will hire an 82 year old anyways…? Al is the Raiders, I don’t think he would have gone anywhere but to the grave if The Raiders went belly up…
July 19th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
“Explain that to the people who lose their jobs when they go 4-12 and the people who get pay-raises after going 12-4.”
Post of the day!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
J Hill, I think the answer to your question as per what I would have done differently has been answered by some of the other commenters here. I agree with their answers.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:46 am
What we’ve needed is some decent talent and a coach who know WTF he is doing.
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Davis hasn’t been able to find either.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Hwnrdr,
It’s a hypothetical question. Do you understand what that is? We’re assuming that Al DAvis is on the market at a GM.
You’re saying no one would hire an 82 year old GM. But Mistic says he’s one of the best GMs in the game! If he’s one of the best GMs in the game, what would age matter? Surely a team would snap him up in an instant to pick his brain, if nothing else, right? So, what team do you believe would?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am
So who was behind the Yamon Figurs debacle from last year?
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The easy answer is not Al, lol!
Which is why the experiment didn’t last 1 week.
I’d probably say Hue because of the Baltimore connection. I think Yamon was an acceptable gamble since we had a frickin FB returning kicks the year before, lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Any ideas on what to do for preseason games this year, as far as watching via the internet?
I hear that all those bogus websites we used last year are out of commmission now.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:56 am
who cares about finishing 12-4 or 4-12 if you dont win the big one.
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Explain that to the people who lose their jobs when they go 4-12 and the people who get pay-raises after going 12-4.
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What does this have to do with what i said? Im just a fan, i dont work for the team.
I am from Oakland Ca, the city of champions! i have watched the A’s Raiders, and even the W’s hang banners and collect trophies. Clearly you new to the game similac breath out of towners see it a different way. As far as Im concerned its superbowl or bust, and davis agrees, after all he is the one that taught me that lesson.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Yamon looked like Michael Spinks before the Tyson fight, on the opening kickoff.
Than he promptly went and fumbled.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Mistic, if winning the Super Bowl is all that matters, then last year’s 8-8 means nothing, right? AL STILL FAILED, RIGHT? BECAUSE AL DIDN’T WIN THE SUPER BOWL LAST YEAR, RIGHT? Surely you hold Al to that standards just as you do our coaches, or other GM’s and owners around the league, right?
Also, that 3 year run where we were good a decade go…doesn’t mean squat, right? AL DAVIS DIDN’T GET IT DONE THEN EITHER, RIGHT? BECAUSE AL DAVIS DIDN’T WIN THE SUPER BOWL THEN, RIGHT?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Mistic, according to YOUR standards, Al Davis has not been successful in nearly 30 YEARS!!! If winning a Super Bowl is the only measuring stick of success… My goodness, did you put your foot in your mouth this time. Bad move.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
None of us are GM’s nor do any of us qualify to be a GM in the NFL.
All we can do is see where we rate compared to the other 31 teams in the league.
I see about 3 or 4 teams that could have a worse GM than us.
I would rather be in the top 5 than the bottom 5 is all I am saying
July 19th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I went to every Raider game from 99-03.
The 2000-02 years were some of the best days of my life. Tailgating, watching wins, handing with family.
If they went 4-12 those years, I probably wouldn’t remember any of it, or care to at least, and probably would have just blown off some of them.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill and Mistic,
I don’t believe I got an answer from you two.
Let’s pretend Al Davis is on the market as a GM. Something happens with the Raiders, they go belly up, all Oakland’s fault, not Al’s, just saying. Al, for whatever reason, is out of a team, and on the market as a general manager. What team hires him?
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Sorry bra im not into make believe
July 19th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
“I have watched the A’s Raiders, and even the W’s hang banners”
Really you have seen the Golden state Warriors win a championship?
Please do tell!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
780.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I don’t think any GM would have hired Art Shell part deux.
Lane Kiffin was as unqualified as they come.
Jamarcus was as lazy as they come.
Javon was as immature and idiotic as they come.
DHB as raw as they come.
Massive, massive GM blunders off the top of my head.
I’ll give him a pass for Gallery, Huff, Cable (no options at the time) and even Deangelo since he at least has a resume.
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It’s amazing how simple it is to just answer an effin question, isn’t it?
Good job mayne, and I agree with most of your blunders.
I even give Davis a pass for Russell. Who would’ve know that that clown would end up a frickin dope head? I wanted AP or Johnson, but I NEVER thought Russell would be as bad as he turned out. My goodness!!!!
If DHB get 40 catches and 6 TDs this year, is it still a GM blunder?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Mistic, according to YOUR standards, Al Davis has not been successful in nearly 30 YEARS!!! If winning a Super Bowl is the only measuring stick of success… My goodness, did you put your foot in your mouth this time. Bad move.
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The town is super bowl or bust, that is it. If you dont win the superbowl you failed. maybe its different for other teams, but there are no moral victories in my city
July 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
If DHB get 40 catches and 6 TDs this year, is it still a GM blunder?
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If he can string together 4-5 years of this, than no.
DHB has a lot of catching up to do for a #7 overall pick, and 1 year of 40-600-6 isn’t going to erase it all in one year.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill and Mistic,
I don’t believe I got an answer from you two.
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No one hires and 82 year old GM.
Legend or not.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If it’s championship or bust, why do you guys even watch the A’s after about 25 games into the season?
No chance they are winning anything, any time soon.
Was the Boom-Dizzle run for the W’s a few years ago a failure? That was about as much fun I have ever had watching hoops!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
That was like 1975 come on man!!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
“I have watched the A’s Raiders, and even the W’s hang banners”
Really you have seen the Golden state Warriors win a championship?
Please do tell!
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You didnt know, wow kids these days
July 19th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DHB has a lot of catching up to do for a #7 overall pick, and 1 year of 40-600-6 isn’t going to erase it all in one year.
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I don’t really care about the #7 pick business. Most of that draft class was trash, right? I mean, we coulda got lucky and had that fat arsse LT from Alabama fall to us, lol.
I think we all know our offense and QB have not been suited for ANY WR to put up respectable numbers the past few years.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
You act like it was yesterday it was almost 40 years ago how can you be serious.
You were all….“I have watched the A’s Raiders, and even the W’s hang banners”
Not in the last 20 years you have not seen this so why act like its the norm.
you need help!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Was the 75 Warriors the team that had Al Attles come on the floor and punch some guy on the opposing team during the playoffs, for messing with Barry?
Imagine that in today’s game? They would probably suspend the coach for a year, press charges on him, and make coaches coach from a press box moving forward.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If it’s championship or bust, why do you guys even watch the A’s after about 25 games into the season?
No chance they are winning anything, any time soon.
Was the Boom-Dizzle run for the W’s a few years ago a failure? That was about as much fun I have ever had watching hoops!!!
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LMAO!!!!
men are becoming too soft.
I watch the A’s to see the pitchers and jemile weeks. we have some young guys on the farm that im eager to see as well.
The best team the warriors have had since the banner, was haradaway, mullin spree and webber. they could have kept that team together and won some trophies. too bad about the curse of nellie
July 19th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I think we all know our offense and QB have not been suited for ANY WR to put up respectable numbers the past few years.
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Ford and Murphy have put up more than respectable numbers for youngsters.
The #7 thing counts brother!!! He (not him personally but his salary) is preventing the team from being able to bring in more talent.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
So with the news of GB contacting players coming out, I wonder if the story of Louis Murphy getting contacted by some Raider employee is going to make headlines?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
You act like it was yesterday it was almost 40 years ago how can you be serious.
You were all….“I have watched the A’s Raiders, and even the W’s hang banners”
Not in the last 20 years you have not seen this so why act like its the norm.
you need help!
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Silver and crack,
These represent some of my earliest memories in life. My family rooting like maniacs teaching me the game, and watching our local teams kick a$$ was something that will always be fresh in my mind. Its laso fresh in my mind how we have been buried left for dead, and ridiculed mercilessly. Not just the teams but the city itself!!!
Oakland perpetual underdogs, down trodden and written off. this is what it means to be an Oakland native and a fan of the silver and black. its us against the world!
Go on laugh , take your shots while you can. When we come back and win it is going to be sweet!!!!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The best team the warriors have had since the banner, was haradaway, mullin spree and webber.
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They got swept in the first round of the playoffs!!
I watched the NBA classic rewind the other day when the Chuckster went for 50+.
And Hardaway batched out in that series, missing the game with an “unknown injury”.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Fair enough then, Mistic. So then you’ve come up with not one team that would hire Al Davis as a GM. So, considering your inability to name one single NFL team that would hire Al Davis as a GM, just where and how would you get the idea that Al Davis is one of the best GMs in the game? I mean, you can’t come up with one single team that would hire him.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I watch the A’s to see the pitchers and jemile weeks.
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That’s sound exciting, lol.
Might as well watch Weeks while you can, before Beane trades him for a one-year rental again.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Honestly i dont know what was more painful, watching the raiders go 4-12 or watching gannon (one of the most overrated qb’s in history) do his best neil odonnel impersonation in the stupor bowl blow out!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
How did the quote “I think he is one of the best OWNERS in sports” get to mean he is a good or bad GM?People twisting what others say again?He is a good owner,but he does a lousy job as GM.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Murphy had 41 catches and 2 TDs
Ford had 25 catches and 2 TDs
DHB had 26 catches and 1 TD
I’d be really interested in some “passes thrown to” stats!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
JHill,
Why wouldn’t anyone hire an 82 year old GM?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The best team the warriors have had since the banner, was haradaway, mullin spree and webber.
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They got swept in the first round of the playoffs!!
I watched the NBA classic rewind the other day when the Chuckster went for 50+.
And Hardaway batched out in that series, missing the game with an “unknown injury”.
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that was a hell of a nucleus and clueless nellie ruined it. We could have built around that core.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
How is Rich Gannon overrated?
He probably isn’t considered by anyone to be a top 100 QB all-time.
He deserved his one MVP, and had a great back-end to a mostly mediocre career.
Had a winning record for every team he ever played for though.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Mistic, I don’t agree with you. I don’t think Al’s a failure just because he hasn’t won a Super Bowl in nearly 30 years. I think Al’s had some good teams in there. You’re pretty harsh on Al Davis. Super Bowl or bust? Sheesh, dude. Al’s trying his best, isn’t he?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Spreewell wasn’t too keen on the next coach they hired either.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
So, considering your inability to name one single NFL team that would hire Al Davis as a GM, just where and how would you get the idea that Al Davis is one of the best GMs in the game? I mean, you can’t come up with one single team that would hire him.
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Inability , no
extreme disinterest in your make believe scenario, dungeons and dragons, harry potter novels, and fairy tales. Yes
Read Davis’s resume, you will be hard pressed to find a that can match what davis has done over his career.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
J,
You can’t just focus on Ford’s receiving stats. He obviously brings more to the table.
And Murphy’s two year stats are massively better than DHB.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Mistic, Neil ODonnell is not the Pittsburgh Steeler’s second best passer in franchise history. Gannon is, however, the second best passer in Raiders’ history. What does that say about Al? That, and that Al hasn’t won a Super Bowl in almost 30 years, which of course makes him a total loser in your book.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Mistic, until you name one single team that would hire Al Davis as a GM right now, I’m marking you down for ZERO TEAMS. You have to name a team.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Hwnrdr,
It’s a hypothetical question. Do you understand what that is? We’re assuming that Al DAvis is on the market at a GM.
You’re saying no one would hire an 82 year old GM. But Mistic says he’s one of the best GMs in the game! If he’s one of the best GMs in the game, what would age matter? Surely a team would snap him up in an instant to pick his brain, if nothing else, right? So, what team do you believe would?
Hypothetically speaking, no team will hire an 82 year old Maverick GM/Owner that will do things his own way rather than, possibly the right way! Especially based on his track record as Kell will say, for the last 23 years!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
817.RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
JHill,
Why wouldn’t anyone hire an 82 year old GM?
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Because people tend to discriminate against the elderly, I guess.
Have you seen any GMs over 70 hired any league recently?
Any 70 year old CEOs getting hired in the world?
Typically not, right?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
813.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I watch the A’s to see the pitchers and jemile weeks.
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That’s sound exciting, lol.
Might as well watch Weeks while you can, before Beane trades him for a one-year rental again.
JFB, As painfully true that is…be quiet!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
“his salary is preventing the team from getting talent”-BU11SH!T.And get off your high horse about baseball.Your team finally wins after 50 frigging years and you act so high and mighty.Oh,that’s right,you’ve only followed them for the last 31 so the previous 19 don’t count.Anyway,enjoy your 1 year of happiness because it will probably be another 50 before you see it again.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
J Hill, aren’t you discriminating against the elderly? You brought up his age. I was just wondering, since Mistic said that he was “one of the best” GMs in the game, which teams would acquire his services. You’re the first person I’ve seen discriminate against age today. Maybe that’s just your opinion. There’s a lot of sharp 82 year olds out there. According to Mistic, Al’s one of them. Evidently you think he’s some old geezer drooling in his chair. I certainly don’t think that low of him. I’m taking Mistic’s word for it, that he’s as sharp as a tack, and can still build a winning team. I just find it interesting that he can’t name one single team that would hire him. What a shame.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Just finished watching ESPN First take. They talked about Nnamdi’s future. Skip still thinks he should and will return to Oakland. Although he could be tempted if Dallas got in the mix.
One other thing from today’s show: What is up with the media and Vegas’ love for the Chargers? (Not you, JFB…the oddsmakers.)
Vegas has SD as 3rd favorite at 11:1 to win it all. Really? Behind only GB and NE. I think they are the favorite to win the West. As a fan, I think Oakland takes it, but I give SD a slight edge because of Rivers. Trying to be realistic.
However, for the oddsmakers in Las Vegas to favor Norvell and the powder blues over both Pittsburgh and the New York Jets…is mind boggling to me. They weren’t even a playoff team last year.
The media still slobbers all over SD as well. Disgusting. They’re window is closing. Finally.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
You can’t just focus on Ford’s receiving stats.
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Under the scenario “I think we all know our offense and QB have not been suited for ANY WR to put up respectable numbers the past few years”, we can certainly focus on receiving stats.
Are you going to fetch those passes thrown to stats, or what?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Haha why even compare Al to other GMs or owners? Al is hsi own entity and you guys know it. All this hypothetical stuff MR is blowing is unnecessary. He is the boss he runs it how he sees fit. What is this BS about someone hiring him. Not in his character
July 19th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Lefty,
I do know that I will be watching playoff baseball this year, and probably playing in the NLCS at the very least.
I’m going to wear the belt proudly and let all of you know about as much as possible until we don’t have the belt anymore.
Deal with it.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Hypothetically speaking, no team will hire an 82 year old Maverick GM/Owner that will do things his own way rather than, possibly the right way!
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How can a team hire and owner?
How can a GM be a Maverick do it his own way type?
It’s ridiculous hyothetical!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Buck,
Remember, and ESPECIALLY with futures odds, the books are basing some of the numbers on the rake.
Dumb azzed Chargers fans are driving up to Vegas and wasting their money on winning the SB odds.
Vegas has to position themselves well on the futures also, against the wise-guys who will hedge once SD is in the playoffs (they usually are as of late).
July 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
You can’t just focus on Ford’s receiving stats.
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Under the scenario “I think we all know our offense and QB have not been suited for ANY WR to put up respectable numbers the past few years”, we can certainly focus on receiving stats.
Are you going to fetch those passes thrown to stats, or what?
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WE dont pass near 40 times that often so I think that contributes but these WRs still have to be better. We pass to RBs and the TE alot….still the WRs have to be better
July 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
J Hill…you’re pretty quick…
July 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Lefty,
I do know that I will be watching playoff baseball this year, and probably playing in the NLCS at the very least.
I’m going to wear the belt proudly and let all of you know about as much as possible until we don’t have the belt anymore.
Deal with it.
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LOL…..damn I hate the Giants…but you did win so you can talk the most crap. Your fluke run is done tho buddy. Enjoy the last 3 months of it.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Jhill….as if Al is going to say to someone “this is why you should hire me…” LMAO
July 19th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Are you going to fetch those passes thrown to stats, or what?
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I don’t where people get those from.
Not on NFL or pro-football reference.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
SD didn’t have their LT and WR for most of the season.
Pretty sure that rookie RB is going to be a lot better this year.
The Jets have 17 FAs including their starting WRs. Sanchez is not that good.
Pittsburgh is a hairamalu injury away from not being in the playoffs.
Not that mind boggling at all.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Enjoy the last 3 months of it.
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I will, thank you. We still need a bat.
I’ll trade you guys Zito for Fuentes and Connor Jackson, and kick in 60% of Zito’s salary for 2011 and 2012.
Deal?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
hypothetical questions are useless wastes of time, unless your using them on chicks for gathering info on dates
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
How is Rich Gannon overrated?
He probably isn’t considered by anyone to be a top 100 QB all-time.
He deserved his one MVP, and had a great back-end to a mostly mediocre career.
Had a winning record for every team he ever played for though.
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He was a good QB. I wasnt a big fan of his but he got alot out of the situation given to him. He is a B-/B quarterback.. Now all of this who was a one of a kind all world QB stuff has to stop.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Also heard talk on NFL network that the Chargers could let go Vincent Jackson (walk) and trade for Steve Smith.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Brien, I have you down for ZERO TEAMS that would hire Al Davis.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Enjoy the last 3 months of it.
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I will, thank you. We still need a bat.
I’ll trade you guys Zito for Fuentes and Connor Jackson, and kick in 60% of Zito’s salary for 2011 and 2012.
Deal?
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No you can keep him, brian wilson and the “machine” together
July 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Brien, I have you down for ZERO TEAMS that would hire Al Davis.
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No what you have us down is for that bet right?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
hypothetical questions are useless wastes of time, unless your using them on chicks for gathering info on dates
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LOL
July 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Heck, you know what?
I’ll throw a team out there.
I think New England might hire Al Davis. I think Belichick might talk Kraft into hiring Al just as sort of an adviser. Sort of like a mafia consigliere.
Is Parcells still in Miami? I could see Parcells doing something similar.
Al has a lot of enemies, so you’d have to look at teams where he has some kind of an in. Those are the only two I can think of. But hey, that’s two more than J Hill, Mistic, Hwnrdr, and Brien can name. Shows you what they REALLY think of Al…
Still too much bad blood between Al and the niners. Still a couple of DeBartolos over there. But you never know. Policy’s long gone. Maybe the niners could hire Al in a similar role.
As far as an actual GM, I don’t think anyone would hire Al. And, not because of his age. I’m not prejudiced against the elderly like J Hill. I’ve had conversations with 80 year olds that I’d trust with my life. My late grandparents being two of them. My reason is that I don’t believe Al was ever really that great of a GM. I think he was a good ambassador to the game, but also a good con man. I think Ron Wolf did most of the heavy lifting in his good years (then later Gruden), and that he takes credit for it. But that’s just my opinion.
Parcells and Belichick really seem to like Al. But I don’t see then hiring Al as a true GM any faster than I would. I think they could hire him as some kind of consultant, though. Wouldn’t be a bad way for him to end his career. Kind of noble. More true to his talents. Because in Oakland, it’s just ending as one huge train wreck, that gets uglier by the year.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Bauce, I was watching the Giants/Padres game last week, I think it was game 3 out of the 4. The Padres should have had more runs but the same way they beat Atlanta, they beat the Padres…very bad calls…I mean, I don’t give a Rats you know what about those, as you will call them, Fluke Giants, but I would like it if a team wins fairly!
Sorry JFB, everyone knows that the giants should have never gotten past the Braves! After that, it was given to you guys! Philly and texas was crap!
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Raiders 11.7 million over the cap:
*Goodbye Cooper Carlsile (unless he restructures)
*Chris Johnson will be a gonner IMO ($$$)aquisitions of Chimdi & D. Van Dyke (rod woodson expected to make one ready to start)
*DHB (will restructure willingly like Vernon Gholston did for Jets)
Who else?
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
# RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Mistic, until you name one single team that would hire Al Davis as a GM right now, I’m marking you down for ZERO TEAMS. You have to name a team.
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Your barking up the wrong tree. I dont give a ufck about what other teams do, or who they wouldnt or wouldnt hire. I am silver and black til the rims crack. Al davis is the leader and i love it. case closed
by all means feel free to play your puff the magic dragon game and wish upon a star all you want, ill stock to the real world
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
I think the Beard is going to hurt us in the playoffs.
Too many innings the last few years, and he is just getting by on guts and pretty much luck these days.
Slider doesn’t slide as much, and he is topping at around 93, and hanging around 90-91 for the most part.
Not going to get it done.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Fair enough Vegas,gloat all you want,but don’t try and act like the Giant organization is the model .It’s ironic that they were never successful until their GM started copying B.Beane-all pitching very little hitting.
July 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hwnrdr,
Championship teams get chapmionship calls,lol
July 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
857.Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Hwnrdr,
Championship teams get chapmionship calls,lol
Just like the Tuck Rule for New England huh? LOL
July 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Beane dip sucks!!! money ball sucks!!!! beane dip hasnt won jack, whats all the fuss/
If you ask me he is all sizzle no steak. and he is probably making that sound with his mouth
July 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
And in the B-more,New England and Tampa games Gannon stunk up the joint. Elite caliber defensive teams with pro bowl talent could beat Gannon
July 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Lefty,
Giants do have the same model as the A’s; building through the draft.
Timmy, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Wilson, Posey, Sandoval….all home grown.
Only difference is that the Giants have a world-class ballyard, get 40K a night, and can keep their players once they are emerging.
If the A’s could play 81 home games against the Yankees and Red Sox, they would be set lol
July 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I think Al Davis would make a great special teams GM. If a team were to actually hire a GM that ONLY dealt with special teams, and nothing else, that might be a good fit for Al. What do you guys think?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Bauce,
Not standing up for Gannon, he had his limitations.
But not like Baltimore and Tampa weren’t just smashing on whatever QB was up that weekend.
That’s what they did!!! Beat-down other teams offenses.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Giants won because SD choked it off. You dont let a team who seemed dead get in like that. I hate the Giants but I know baseball is a sport that never changes. Pitching and defense is gonna win out after September. Giants had it. I hate the Padres. They ruined a great thing
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Heard Mike Ferrera(?),the ex-head of officiating, being interviewed on the radio yesterday and he more or less came right out and said the Raiders are the one team that has gotten screwed by controversial calls over and over.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
JFB, you are right about that! That is where Money Ball sux! Miggy, Giambi, heck even Rickey way back when he was traded to the Yanks! Always giving away good players because he always believes that he can win with the farm!
July 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Bauce,
Not standing up for Gannon, he had his limitations.
But not like Baltimore and Tampa weren’t just smashing on whatever QB was up that weekend.
That’s what they did!!! Beat-down other teams offenses.
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Yeah but in all 3 of Gannon’s playoff losses it was the same thing. He went up against teams with great players on it and just couldnt win. He was a good qb I’ll admit but the MVP was a joke and admittedly he has limitations. I feel he gets way too much due from Raider folks
July 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Lefty,
Giants do have the same model as the A’s; building through the draft.
Timmy, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner, Wilson, Posey, Sandoval….all home grown.
Only difference is that the Giants have a world-class ballyard, get 40K a night, and can keep their players once they are emerging.
If the A’s could play 81 home games against the Yankees and Red Sox, they would be set lol
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Yeah Candleschit was always packed deep lol
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Mistic,I agree,Beane sucks.Keeping that clown Geren around as long as he did sealed the deal for me.BTW,does everyone realize the A’s owners are some of the richest in the league.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Just like the Tuck Rule for New England huh? LOL
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The fix was in that year. With the 911 thing and all, of course the PATRIOTS had to go to the Super Bowl that year.
Other forces at work, as my man Thec would say.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
In fact JFB, one of the bosses here got a luxury box for the Giants game and he’s paying for everything…drinks, food, etc. I told him no! Those bandwagoners that will never know the history of Giants baseball except for that they won last year will pretty much piss me off! Fans like you I can respect!
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
JFB, you are right about that! That is where Money Ball sux! Miggy, Giambi, heck even Rickey way back when he was traded to the Yanks! Always giving away good players because he always believes that he can win with the farm!
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Management wants to move them to SJ….they trying to lose. Fk it. If they gonna leave the town then SJ I have to dig….ya dig? I’d prefer a Jack London area site but that aint happening
July 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
I know, J Hill…I said the same thing…
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
B,it is also overlooked that the A’s held the single season attendance record in the bay until Pac Bell was built.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Good defense always beats good offense. For all intents and purposes, an offensive team is doomed from the gate going against a defensive team. If Gruden is here in 2002, where he belonged, instead of in Tampa, Tampa’s offense isn’t even good enough to get to the Super Bowl. There were no great defensive AFC teams that year. So we would have had a red carpet to the dance, and our opponent probably would have been the Eagles, who we destroyed a year earlier on their home turf, in weather. Face it, Brien. Al gave Tampa the Super Bowl by giving them our coach. We lost Super Bowl 37 in February of 2002.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Bauce, as long as they don’t leave the Bay, I will still go see them! But it will be hard NOT to see them in Oak Town anymore! But of well…
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
# lefty12 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Mistic,I agree,Beane sucks.Keeping that clown Geren around as long as he did sealed the deal for me.BTW,does everyone realize the A’s owners are some of the richest in the league.
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Thank you
This drives me nuts!!!! The owners are super rich, the bay area (depending on the source) are either the no 4 or the no 7 largest market.
There are no excuses for pretending to be the royals.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Just like the Tuck Rule for New England huh? LOL
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The fix was in that year. With the 911 thing and all, of course the PATRIOTS had to go to the Super Bowl that year.
Other forces at work, as my man Thec would say.
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Yeah so think about it….they pull that crap in 2001 and then Super Bowl 37 Barrett all of a sudden runs loose? The pressure got to him?
He had played only 2 games in 2001 cuz he hurt his ACL and just playing in AFC title vs ravens that January. Now ACL injuries are tough as hell and he came back to be a pro bowler in 2002. He is crying about some depression and he cant take the big game? I’m not even buying that schit sandwich. It smells bad off top that it comes out he is Bi-polar. No one is watching him at all? Thats sum BS
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Thanks for the explanation Vegas. Makes sense. Just taking it at face value, it seemed silly.
Somebody mentioned former VP of officiating Mike Pierera. He defended that Tuck Rule call until he was blue in the face. Last year, after he’d retired, he came on NFLN and said he thought it was a flawed rule and needed to be changed or done away with, basically.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
I think after Al is gone the financial situation for the Raiders will get a lot better. With Al out of the picture, investors will be coming out of the wood works. And I’m talking investors with big corporate ties. More restaurants and vitalization, probably around a new stadium built somewhere in the east bay. As long as Al’s alive, nobody will want anything to do with the Raiders. No investors, no city. The Raiders are just on an island.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
B,it is also overlooked that the A’s held the single season attendance record in the bay until Pac Bell was built.
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LOL of course
July 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
lol. Brien, J Hill, Mistic and Hwnrdr don’t do hypothetical situations. But they do conspiracies!
July 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Good defense always beats good offense. For all intents and purposes, an offensive team is doomed from the gate going against a defensive team. If Gruden is here in 2002, where he belonged, instead of in Tampa, Tampa’s offense isn’t even good enough to get to the Super Bowl. There were no great defensive AFC teams that year. So we would have had a red carpet to the dance, and our opponent probably would have been the Eagles, who we destroyed a year earlier on their home turf, in weather. Face it, Brien. Al gave Tampa the Super Bowl by giving them our coach. We lost Super Bowl 37 in February of 2002.
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Dont give me that schit MR the QBs who get all the praise are the ones that overcome those great defenses. Gannon couldnt do it
No way…Tampa winning that game with Dungy coaching. Personnel issues all over the field for us vs them
July 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
lol. Brien, J Hill, Mistic and Hwnrdr don’t do hypothetical situations. But they do conspiracies!
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Nowhere near the same thing…..you sound stupid.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
I think after Al is gone the financial situation for the Raiders will get a lot better. With Al out of the picture, investors will be coming out of the wood works. And I’m talking investors with big corporate ties. More restaurants and vitalization, probably around a new stadium built somewhere in the east bay. As long as Al’s alive, nobody will want anything to do with the Raiders. No investors, no city. The Raiders are just on an island.
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Yeah folks that will want them in LA. you would love that
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Raiders 11.7 million over the cap:
*Goodbye Cooper Carlsile (unless he restructures)
*Chris Johnson will be a gonner IMO ($$$)aquisitions of Chimdi & D. Van Dyke (rod woodson expected to make one ready to start)
*DHB (will restructure willingly like Vernon Gholston did for Jets)
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paradise,
these players are making a combined $6 million in salary this year. CJ37 isn’t going anywhere.
If Cooper Carlisle gets axed, he’ll get a 4-year $45 million contract elsewhere assuming the reviews from JFB & Jhill are correct on him
July 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
# lefty12 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Mistic,I agree,Beane sucks.Keeping that clown Geren around as long as he did sealed the deal for me.BTW,does everyone realize the A’s owners are some of the richest in the league.
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Thank you
This drives me nuts!!!! The owners are super rich, the bay area (depending on the source) are either the no 4 or the no 7 largest market.
There are no excuses for pretending to be the royals.
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We got teased from 2000-2006 and watch the whole team jet. Now we stink and prolly gonna pack up for SJ
July 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
The Eagles are switching to a Cover 2 this year.
does that make any difference why they would or wouldn’t sign Asomugha ???
July 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I think I found a site JFB
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
Looks like DHB had 64 passes thrown his way with a catch rate of 41%.
Murphy had 78 passes thrown his way with a catch rate of 53%.
Ford had 54 passes tossed his way and caught 46% of them.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Raiders 11.7 million over the cap
highest paid players at each position:
J Campbell
D McFadden
M Bush (after he’s resigned)
DHB
Z Miller (after he’s resigned)
C Carlisle
Seymour
Kelly
J Henderson
Wimbley
McClain
Routt
CJ37
Eugene
Seabass
Lechler
everybody else is making peanuts or isn’t under contract in 2011, so these are the guys that’ll be forced to restructure or face the knife
July 19th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/19/the-manning-brees-mankins-jackson-backlash-begins/related/
Now this is just awesome
July 19th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I think I found a site JFB
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr
Looks like DHB had 64 passes thrown his way with a catch rate of 41%.
Murphy had 78 passes thrown his way with a catch rate of 53%.
Ford had 54 passes tossed his way and caught 46% of them.
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Unacceptable
July 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
You can save $5 million by cutting Carlisle & CJ37, but then you’ve got McFadden, Ware, DVD or Chekwa (none has ever started an NFL game) starting opposite Routt. You’ve also got Daniel Loper (9 NFL starts) and Bruce Campbell (zero starts) at guard
the best way to save some coin would be to restructure TK and sign Wimbley long-term, but then re-signing Bush & Miller would eat up all of that and we’d still be over the cap without signing anybody in free agency (even our own guys!)
July 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
In Washington, the tents at Redskins Park have started to go up. These are the same tents used during training camp. Take that how you will.
In Chicago, the Bears announced Tuesday morning that single season tickets go on sale on July 28.
In New Jersey, the Jets coaching staff returned to work Tuesday. They had been on vacation since late June.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Yeah Candleschit was always packed deep lol
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And we never won crap back than.
Home-grown Will Clark made the team relevant, but he bailed once he was free and we didn’t have the dough to match. They made the power move for Barry Lamar, but he never had any real help, especially pitching wise.
Crappy stadium = major disadvantage
July 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Tampa doesn’t get to the Super Bowl with Dungy coaching it, Brien. That team was dead offensively. Gruden gave them at least some life on the offensive side of the ball. How does a team win when they’re not playing in the game in the first place? If Gruden’s not in Tampa, we’re playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
the Lakers are gonna get SLAPPED on Christmas Day when they play the Bulls.
Print That!
July 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Brien, there are several wealthy investors in the bay area who’d love to keep the Raiders in the east bay, maybe even Oakland, if they could get a stadium built near downtown or Jack London somehow, or any area more economically vibrant than “deep East”. They just don’t want anything to do with Al. When Al’s gone, a lot of great things are going to happen with the Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Gruden got an amazing year from Brad Johsnon.
Top 3 QB rating and 22 TD’s to 4 INT’s
July 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
J,
I will look at that in second, good looking out.
Gotta jet
July 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
If Gruden’s not in Tampa, we’re playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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I wonder how many Bucs’ fans would say “If Callahan’s not in Oakland, we’re playing the Titans in the Super Bowl” ???
July 19th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
What was Gruden ultimate record as a head coach for Tampa Bay?
48-48?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Tampa doesn’t get to the Super Bowl with Dungy coaching it, Brien. That team was dead offensively. Gruden gave them at least some life on the offensive side of the ball. How does a team win when they’re not playing in the game in the first place? If Gruden’s not in Tampa, we’re playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
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What? The job Dungy took over in Tampa was a far greater challenge than Gruden’s gift. The offenses werent even bad Dungy’s last two years there. They just couldnt beat Philly those two years. How do you know that team couldnt beat them and got over the hump? Dungy has proved to be a damn good coach.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Brien, there are several wealthy investors in the bay area who’d love to keep the Raiders in the east bay, maybe even Oakland, if they could get a stadium built near downtown or Jack London somehow, or any area more economically vibrant than “deep East”. They just don’t want anything to do with Al. When Al’s gone, a lot of great things are going to happen with the Raiders.
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They need to keep them right where there at now
July 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Brien, Tampa’s offense was dead throughout Dungy’s entire run. Which is why I’m pretty well convinced that Dungy had little to do with the offensive success in Indy. He’s a defensive coach, nothing else. Tampa’s offense was beyond awful throughout his entire tenure.
July 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Brien, why do the Raiders need to stay where they are now?
July 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
If Cooper Carlisle gets axed, he’ll get a 4-year $45 million contract elsewhere assuming the reviews from JFB & Jhill are correct on him
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LMAO
July 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Remember that time when Peyton stayed on the field and went for it on fourth, while Dungy was calling him to the sideline? Then Dungy just kind of sulked back and forth biting his lip? That was just embarrassing. I mean, just on general principal, Dungy should have benched Manning, even if the play had succeeded. But it just shows you how much involvement Dungy had with the offense in Indy. It’s almost like it wasn’t even his department, and he had no business weighing in. It was an almost Raider-like moment in Indy. lol
July 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Brien, Tampa’s offense was dead throughout Dungy’s entire run. Which is why I’m pretty well convinced that Dungy had little to do with the offensive success in Indy. He’s a defensive coach, nothing else. Tampa’s offense was beyond awful throughout his entire tenure.
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LOL not like that offense was lighting it up so great in 2002. Defense led that charge and you know this
July 19th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Brien, why do the Raiders need to stay where they are now?
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Best centrally located spot in the bay area for them to play. Bart access and parking lot. Jack London stadium needs to be for the A’s.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Remember that time when Peyton stayed on the field and went for it on fourth, while Dungy was calling him to the sideline? Then Dungy just kind of sulked back and forth biting his lip? That was just embarrassing. I mean, just on general principal, Dungy should have benched Manning, even if the play had succeeded. But it just shows you how much involvement Dungy had with the offense in Indy. It’s almost like it wasn’t even his department, and he had no business weighing in. It was an almost Raider-like moment in Indy. lol
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Happens alot with great qbs and coaches
July 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
BRING BACK THE L.A. RAIDERS BABY!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Brien, Gruden improved the offense good enough to get to the Super Bowl. Tampa was a perennial playoff choker before Gruden arrived and it was precisely because their offense sucked.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
MR….Raiders didnt have the personnel on offense to beat Tampa’s defense. I’m just gonna be real honest with you. Gruden would have lost to Dungy
July 19th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
BRING BACK THE L.A. RAIDERS BABY!
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Not their home….so why do it?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Gruden never would have played Dungy. Tony Dungy never takes that Tampa team to the Super Bowl. If Gruden’s here, we’re playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Tampa likely doesn’t even get to the NFC championship. I’m just being real honest with you.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Brien, Gruden improved the offense good enough to get to the Super Bowl. Tampa was a perennial playoff choker before Gruden arrived and it was precisely because their offense sucked.
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That was an already good team since the middle of 96. Those guys on defense were gonna have their shine eventually. Gruden did nothing special just like Siefert in 89 and Coker for the U in 2001
July 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Gruden never would have played Dungy. Tony Dungy never takes that Tampa team to the Super Bowl. If Gruden’s here, we’re playing the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Tampa likely doesn’t even get to the NFC championship. I’m just being real honest with you.
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Gruden never takes that Raider team
July 19th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
When Al’s gone, anything’s possible, Dakota. But don’t forget there’s a lot of money people in the bay area too that will hit Mark Davis up and try to invest to keep the team in Oakland. They hate L.A. up here, Dakota. They’d do anything to prevent the Raiders from going back there. If they had to build a flippin amusement park next to the stadium they would.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Gruden fizzled down the stretch with us and how do you know his conservative calls wouldnt have chopped us? Exatly…you dont know if you gonna say that about Dungy. Up to that point both had lost in conf title games
July 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Ha ha ha! Gruden never takes that Raider team. Now you’re just a comedian, Brien. Bill Callahan, Gruden’s underline, takes them, but Gruden couldn’t. Put the bottle back in the cabinet and put on a pot of coffee. You got started too early today, B.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
LA is getting the Rams or Chargers…..maybe both. They want football in LA even if most of LA dont want it
July 19th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Ha ha ha! Gruden fizzled down the stretch with us…then killed us in the Super Bowl one year later! Your’e all jokes today, brien.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Ha ha ha! Gruden never takes that Raider team. Now you’re just a comedian, Brien. Bill Callahan, Gruden’s underline, takes them, but Gruden couldn’t. Put the bottle back in the cabinet and put on a pot of coffee. You got started too early today, B.
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Well players said difference was Bill would be more willing to listen to other ideas than his own. Gruden was much different. Gruden would be too conservo at times and it costs us games.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Yeah, too many money people up north are going to make Mark offers he can’t refuse after Al’s gone. LA people will get his ear, too, but I have a hunch that Mark understands the importance of Oakland and the Raiders. If he can get a stadium and turn a profit, he’s staying up North.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brien still thinks Bill Callahan was the reason we got to the Super Bowl that year, and that Gruden wouldn’t have made it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
No matter who the coach was the Raiders personnel wasnt set up to beat the Bucs plain and simple. Gruden didnt even matter to me leading up to that SB. We had slow ass WRs two who were old and Garner was our lead back lol. LOL out tackles blocking their ends? Please be serious. Only chance we would have had was to run and run and run Tyrone Wheatley to have a chance. Need I mention we had a center who could only pass block?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
You know, I know a guy who used to golf with Mark Davis. He’s about as modest as a rich guy’s son could be. He would not chase the money. All he would need is assurance that he could turn a profit in Oakland, and the Raiders would stay. With a ton of new investors ready to go due to Al being out of the picture, he’d have no problem. It’s boom times for the Raiders when Al’s gone, and the boom’s happening in the east bay.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Brien, with Gruden here, we wouldn’t have been playing the Bucs. Dungy does not take the Bucs to the Super Bowl. They choke in the NFC divisional playoffs, like they did every year in the ’90s. We play the Eagles. And destroy them, just as Gruden did a year earlier, in Phily, in rain and wind.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Brien, you lost this argument. When are you going to realize that?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brien still thinks Bill Callahan was the reason we got to the Super Bowl that year, and that Gruden wouldn’t have made it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Callahan wasnt a better coach than Gruden but he still took us further. Gruden wasnt a better coach eventho he took them further
You are saying Dungy couldnt reach super bowl when he was on the doorstep one of recently JUST LIKE GRUDEN WAS.
You’re a hypocrite to saying one coach would have won the Super bowl with same team from year before but other one wouldnt. Tampa was winning that division again. You see once Gruden start to put his stamp on the team they were middle of the road until the Raiders got him fired
July 19th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Brien, with Gruden here, we wouldn’t have been playing the Bucs. Dungy does not take the Bucs to the Super Bowl. They choke in the NFC divisional playoffs, like they did every year in the ’90s. We play the Eagles. And destroy them, just as Gruden did a year earlier, in Phily, in rain and wind.
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How do you know Gruden beats Fisher and the Titans? Has he ever beat them up to that point? Exactly you fool so how you gonna say Dungy eventually wouldnt have beat Reid? As you saw Donovan has lost 4 out of 5 conf title games so he wasnt a lock for schit.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Brien, you lost this argument. When are you going to realize that?
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I never lose buddy…..you contradicting yourself….you saying one guy automatically would win but the other guy wouldnt. You have nothing to prove that
July 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda bullscit all day long.
What actually happened?
Jon Gruden embarrassed the hell out of Al Davis that day. The Gruden trade blew up in his face, and his skin hasn’t grown back, still!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Brien, this argument was over long ago. You’re just going in circles now. But it’s fun watching you.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Dungy was on doorstep when Bert Emannuel was robbed of that catch…..ended up changing rule after that or do you forget that as well you liar
July 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Kell, pretty much, when you sum it all up.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Brien, this argument was over long ago. You’re just going in circles now. But it’s fun watching you.
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No that is moreso you running from the fact that Gruden winning was not set in stone. He hadnt proven he could beat the Titans just like Dungy with Reid. You claiming Gruden would have gotten over that hump but Dungy wouldnt………..what is your basis for that?……..Stop running
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Dungy was on the door step…
ha ha ha.
Brien, live to fight another day. Get some rest.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
And again you running from the bet….I’ve mentioned this twice today….dont run lil guy
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Hmmmm, I am a 27 year old star free agent NFL player and I am looking for a major market to take advantage of along with a great city for nightlife and entertainment.
Am I signing with the Oakland Raiders or the L.A. Raiders?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RAIDER Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Dungy was on the door step…
ha ha ha.
Brien, live to fight another day. Get some rest.
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Whoaaaaaaaa in the 99 NFC title game the bucs werent on doorstp of beating STL? Are you kidding me?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Hmmmm, I am a 27 year old star free agent NFL player and I am looking for a major market to take advantage of along with a great city for nightlife and entertainment.
Am I signing with the Oakland Raiders or the L.A. Raiders?
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Oakland because you know LA isnt a football city. That experiment has been done 3 times. People who have money have no issue with living in the Bay Area. Its very nice here bruh. dont know where you been living……….oops my bad
July 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Hmmmm, I am a 27 year old star free agent NFL player and I am looking for a major market to take advantage of along with a great city for nightlife and entertainment.
Am I signing with the Oakland Raiders or the L.A. Raiders?
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I wonder how the Packers signed Charles Woodson? Ahh, they were winning.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Well then, Dakota. I guess every team in the league was out of contention back when us and the Rams were in Los Angeles. I mean, we had the FA market cornered, being the team in the showbiz capital of the world. Right? Or, could there be other factors players consider when free agents?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Where’s Krappy, aka King of the Trolls?
Just want to hear the old mule tell us again how he hates name calling in the blog.
Isn’t that right, bootlicker?
CHEESE BISCUITS RED LOBSTER STYLE
July 19th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Hmmmm, I am a 27 year old star free agent NFL player and I am looking for a major market to take advantage of along with a great city for nightlife and entertainment.
Am I signing with the Oakland Raiders or the L.A. Raiders?
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I wonder how the Pittsburg Steelers sign anybody?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBLBDh6iNxA
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MR get the fk outta here….TB was on their side of the 50 with under a minute to go and down 5….hell you talking about?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Hmmmm, I am a 27 year old star free agent NFL player and I am looking for a major market to take advantage of along with a great city for nightlife and entertainment.
Am I signing with the Oakland Raiders or the L.A. Raiders?
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How did Sacramento sign Beecham?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Dakota your fascination with hating the Raiders in Oakland is stupid. You realize this is their home? They aint been right since they left the first time. LA not gonna make you attract more free agents. Those athletes love living in California
July 19th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I wonder how the Packers signed Charles Woodson? Ahh, they were winning.
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No other team wanted him, lol!
What an effin dumb arsse.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
MR,
You do know that NFL Free Agency didn’t really begin as we know it until 1993….when did we move back to Oakland again?
I’d be willing to bet free agents would love to play for the LA Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Dakota do you realize alot of these players are from small towns? They come to NorCal or SoCal and see these women,these drugs,the weather, beaches and all of this other stuff to do and most enjoy it. Plus their hella close to Vegas and Hawaii. If you got cheddar Cali is it for ya
July 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
MR,
You do know that NFL Free Agency didn’t really begin as we know it until 1993….when did we move back to Oakland again?
I’d be willing to bet free agents would love to play for the LA Raiders.
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Well how come since moving back to Oakland we have signed free agents? You arent making sense
July 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
The Rams and the Raider played at the Coliseum off Fig, lol.
We are talking brand new, downtown, state of the art stadium.
Absolute insanity to think the Raiders won’t draw there.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Yeah Dakota these guys noly wanna be inthe big named cities…..puhleeeze
July 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
KK,
Yes, attracting free agents by fielding a winning competitive team would be nice….with Al in charge I would rather bet on the city of LA bringing us players as opposed to hoping al recaptures his glory from 25 years ago lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Jhill
You little faggets down there ruined the Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
The Rams and the Raider played at the Coliseum off Fig, lol.
We are talking brand new, downtown, state of the art stadium.
Absolute insanity to think the Raiders won’t draw there.
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Jhill what for a few years then what? After having a team again wears off LA will not support a football team unless its the Rams or maybe he Chargers. Al is not dying and will not be allowed back. Those politicians aint dealing with Al Davis Football Inc
July 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
954.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
MR,
You do know that NFL Free Agency didn’t really begin as we know it until 1993….when did we move back to Oakland again?
I’d be willing to bet free agents would love to play for the LA Raiders.
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Well how come since moving back to Oakland we have signed free agents? You arent making sense
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We have had this conversation before….I bet you STILL can’t name an “in his prime free agent signing of a STAR player” by the Oakland Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Jhill
You little faggets down there ruined the Raiders.
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Ease up…Jhill is a cool cat…..he from LA buty dude is generally cool no matter what
July 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
The Raiders would only get faggedy again down there. Pay me Free Agents, robbing Davis blind.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Jhill is a fagget!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
How does anyone feel about bringing back Kirk Morrison to play outside instead of groves? Wimbley Rolando Morrison ? Not bad. Then cut groves, Chris Johnson, Cooper carlisle, Bennett. Morrison would only be like 2mill a year?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Ha, right on cue! Krappy, you’re getting better and better at taking orders from me.
Please, remind us again how much you can’t stand name calling. For laughs.
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Jhill
You little faggets down there ruined the Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
LA is too big and people are from everywhere. Allegiances run rampant from NY,Boston,Pitt,Florida teams, Chicago , Philly and DC….end of the day just too much to do for folks to trip off football. SoCal provides that for ya.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Al Davis took a tough blue collar winning team to LA, and He brought back a faggedy team with their spikey haired fans, back.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Ease up…Jhill is a cool cat…..he from LA buty dude is generally cool no matter what
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Thanks, but I don’t need a lawyer for punk muhfuhga.
Kell is an absolute mental midget. I have better more substantive conversations with my 6 year old daughter.
I know you think you have the monopoly on smashing this clown, but Ima keep serving up 2 pieces every now and then.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
For his next trick, Krappy will remind everyone how smart he is because he’s been to Copenhagen.
Brahs I’ve gotta a hot date with a sweet honey this weekend. I’m sending my regular ladies on a PARTYDUDE 8000 Promo Tour to Palm Springs, they’ll be working the Riviera and making me mad jack.
I’m taking this off the chain babe to the Warehouse for margs and cheese fries, then back to the room for mack dizzle action then dancing and getting loaded on the Reggae Party Cruise.
I’m going to need to fuse together a few Magnums to make it through this one.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
954.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
MR,
You do know that NFL Free Agency didn’t really begin as we know it until 1993….when did we move back to Oakland again?
I’d be willing to bet free agents would love to play for the LA Raiders.
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Well how come since moving back to Oakland we have signed free agents? You arent making sense
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We have had this conversation before….I bet you STILL can’t name an “in his prime free agent signing of a STAR player” by the Oakland Raiders.
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LOL most superstar signings happen with the big winning franchises. We havent been winning alot..People have no issues living up here, hell Rodney Harrison was still a dope safety and wanted to come here. You act like its easy to come by star signings
In LA the attendances would still be bearing this out for sure. You had 5 sellouts the last 5 years total there. You got 10 million people in the LA basin. Spare me the coliseum was old crap! Our facility is bad too. 2006 we had 6 out of 8 sellouts and that team stunk so I dont wanna hear it.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Thanks, but I don’t need a lawyer for punk muhfuhga.
Kell is an absolute mental midget. I have better more substantive conversations with my 6 year old daughter.
I know you think you have the monopoly on smashing this clown, but Ima keep serving up 2 pieces every now and then.
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You’ll feel otherwise you little btch. Lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Jhill is a fagget!
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Why is that? Is it because he is a bootlicker? He is a societal leach? Or it is because he is jealous that you’re paid and he is broke?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Ease up…Jhill is a cool cat…..he from LA buty dude is generally cool no matter what
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Thanks, but I don’t need a lawyer for punk muhfuhga.
Kell is an absolute mental midget. I have better more substantive conversations with my 6 year old daughter.
I know you think you have the monopoly on smashing this clown, but Ima keep serving up 2 pieces every now and then.
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Eye eye Capt
July 19th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
end of the day just too much to do for folks to trip off football. SoCal provides that for ya.
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I guarantee that LA sells more tickets in a new LA stadium than Oakland was ever able to sell.
Oaklands been doing what, under 30k per game?
July 19th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I have better more substantive conversations with my 6 year old daughter.
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I bet she knows more about football, than her faggedy assed father. Lol
July 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Rodney Harrison is the best you could come up with?
Come on Brien, I expect better of you! Eric Turner was about the best I could come up with….at least we actually signed him!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
end of the day just too much to do for folks to trip off football. SoCal provides that for ya.
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I guarantee that LA sells more tickets in a new LA stadium than Oakland was ever able to sell.
Oaklands been doing what, under 30k per game?
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No way…..you never will be able to and never have shown it. you guys millions of more folks and still have had embarrassing crowds bruh. Yes there are some hardcore Raiders cats in LA. I know some personally. But be real, the Raiders dont work dont work down there. Al was about to come after the late 80s. He saw he messed up
July 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Rodney Harrison is the best you could come up with?
Come on Brien, I expect better of you! Eric Turner was about the best I could come up with….at least we actually signed him!
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Wahats wrong with Rodney? He was apart of 5 straight playoff teams that went to 3 super bowls. al signed Rice and Brown to extra money so we couldnt get Rodney in 03….thats a fact
July 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Dakota….name the top tier star free agent signings we have had in our history lol
July 19th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
end of the day just too much to do for folks to trip off football. SoCal provides that for ya.
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I guarantee that LA sells more tickets in a new LA stadium than Oakland was ever able to sell.
Oaklands been doing what, under 30k per game?
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46,000
July 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
979.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Dakota….name the top tier star free agent signings we have had in our history lol
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Exactly….that is because since free agency began in 1993 we have been almost exclusively in Oakland!
July 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Morrison would only be like 2mill a year?
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paradise,
http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/player/Kirk-Morrison
2010 $2.524 million
Kirk has only had one contract. The 5-year deal he signed as a 3rd rounder and the RFA tender he signed before being traded to JAX
July 19th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Exactly….that is because since free agency began in 1993 we have been almost exclusively in Oakland!
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1989 genius, I’ve been posting those stats for years, damn!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
979.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Dakota….name the top tier star free agent signings we have had in our history lol
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Exactly….that is because since free agency began in 1993 we have been almost exclusively in Oakland!
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Stars are difficult to just sign like that Dakota…I dont know what you dont get about that. al has made trades and got stars. i mean those players have to approve of the move their damn selves
July 19th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Plan B Free Agency started 1989. The Raiders have lost 57% of their games since.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
You’re missing the point.
NEW STADIUM!
Ridiculous NEW STADIUM.
Whichever team plays there is going to have the stadium at least meet league averages for attendance.
You’ll have those same skinny jean wearing foriegners at that stadium regardless of who plays there.
Throw in the uber marketable global icon of a team like the Raiders?????
Billionaires are punk muhfuhgaas like Koolio Kelly. No one is running from Al Davis.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Russell Maryland wasnt a superstar but he was a damn good player when we signed him
July 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Billionaires aren’t punk muhfuhgaas like Koolio Kelly.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Jhillfagget
There’s no new stadium in LA, comphrende?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
983.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Exactly….that is because since free agency began in 1993 we have been almost exclusively in Oakland!
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1989 genius, I’ve been posting those stats for years, damn!
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Well, you can count that Plan B BS if you want….I am talking about free agency that has given teams the chance to sign star players:
“With fear of another lawsuit, the league adopted the “Plan B” system. Under Plan B, teams were allowed to protect 37 players on their roster, and the remaining players became unrestricted free agents.
The players voted to decertify their union in 1989, allowing individual players to sue the league. Freeman McNeil, a running back from the New York Jets, was the lead plaintiff in a suit in which a federal jury in Minnesota ruled that Plan B was illegal.
After the McNeil case, a flood of lawsuits hit the league, so the owners decided to bargain with the players again. In 1993, the owners granted the players free agency in exchange for a salary cap.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Jhillfagget,
Just remember, you started it, ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
You’re missing the point.
NEW STADIUM!
Ridiculous NEW STADIUM.
Whichever team plays there is going to have the stadium at least meet league averages for attendance.
You’ll have those same skinny jean wearing foriegners at that stadium regardless of who plays there.
Throw in the uber marketable global icon of a team like the Raiders?????
Billionaires are punk muhfuhgaas like Koolio Kelly. No one is running from Al Davis.
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Please new stadium would mean what after 2-3 years? Aint no one gonna go then for sure. That is a Laker then Dodger town
Yeah I’m sure LA officials want the new venue to carry LA’s rowdy Raider cats…..yeah sure Jhill….you are making alot of sense lol
July 19th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
LOL Jhill what about the tailgating experience that makes the games that much better to go to? You not getting that in LA bruh
July 19th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Yeah I’m sure LA officials want the new venue to carry LA’s rowdy Raider cats…..yeah sure Jhill….you are making alot of sense lol
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LOL!
It’s not like I ever expect you to say “Yeah, I agree, LA is where the Raiders should go if they leave Oakland.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
LOL!
It’s not like I ever expect you to say “Yeah, I agree, LA is where the Raiders should go if they leave Oakland.”
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Neither do LA Officials, fagget.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Yeah, the tailgating experience will be different.
I don’t recall how the parking was addressed in the model I saw.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
If the LA Kings can average 18k in attendance I am sure an NFL team in a new stadium would do just fine.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I scratch you off my balls with my paws, muhfuhgaaa!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Yeah I’m sure LA officials want the new venue to carry LA’s rowdy Raider cats…..yeah sure Jhill….you are making alot of sense lol
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LOL!
It’s not like I ever expect you to say “Yeah, I agree, LA is where the Raiders should go if they leave Oakland.”
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Well been there done that Jhill. Already saw how that turned out. Rams should go back to LA if any team is gonna go back
July 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Yeah, the tailgating experience will be different.
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You ain’t lying about that, fagget.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu15t1kNiHY
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I scratch you off my balls with my paws, muhfuhgaaa!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Dammit! just heard Scheftforbrains say on BSPN, that ALL training camps are expected to open a week LATE!
Leave it to a couple of Cheatriots, and a dis-Charger to mess this deal up..
Get the muthaeffin deal done already….
As far as players “looking for less contact.” goes, give them skirts and pom-poms, instead of pads and helmets…….
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Cmon Koolio …
Hit us with a few more clever one liners.
I know that’s all your pea sized brain can spit out.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I scratch you off my balls with my paws, muhfuhgaaa!
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I imagine you got all kinds of germs, fagget. Lol
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Yeah, the tailgating experience will be different.
I don’t recall how the parking was addressed in the model I saw.
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Downtown LA has no tailgating bruh….simple as that. How is that even fun for the average football guy? Parking garages and schit?
So you also got city of Industry who has the space for that but what about public transpo? Neggas gettin hit with DUIs. At least BART stops some of that
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Dammit! just heard Scheftforbrains say on BSPN, that ALL training camps are expected to open a week LATE!
Leave it to a couple of Cheatriots, and a dis-Charger to mess this deal up..
Get the muthaeffin deal done already….
As far as players “looking for less contact.” goes, give them skirts and pom-poms, instead of pads and helmets…….
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Sad….real sad
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Cmon Koolio …
Hit us with a few more clever one liners.
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I got a million of them, bootlicker.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Cmon Koolio …
Hit us with a few more clever one liners.
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I got a million of them, bootlicker.
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Why do you use the same ones so much then?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Man, yes if the Raiders are just decent like last year attendance will be up, I mean going 8-8 last year took them from 32nd in the NFL in attendance to, oh, well 32nd.
Hey, we were 31st in 2008!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
They’re right on target, that’s why.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Kell….yeeeeeeeaaaaah so any word yet on those links I sent ya? Just wondering is all
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
1008.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Cmon Koolio …
Hit us with a few more clever one liners.
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I got a million of them, bootlicker.
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Why do you use the same ones so much then?
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LMAO
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
you started it
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Mann up, phaagg bait!
You sound like a Subway commercial.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
They’re right on target, that’s why.
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You must not aim for the bullseye then
July 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Dakota
Nobody will have Al Davis, after he dies, then yes, they could move back to LA with new ownership.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Mann up, phaagg bait!
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I bet your mouth is watering, fagget.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Kell wanna talk about whopping increase in debot during Clinton years? How about MLK’s obvious commie ties and hustlin preacher ways? Wanna talk some more Elway? How about Moss vs Woodson? Still wanna recant on who started the NAACP
July 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I scratch you off my balls with my paws, muhfuhgaaa!
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July 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Dakota
Nobody will have Al Davis, after he dies, then yes, they could move back to LA with new ownership.
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That wont happen. hey’ll stay up here. LA isnt even an option. Once A’s jet to SJ they will have their stadium
July 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Downtown LA has no tailgating bruh….simple as that. How is that even fun for the average football guy? Parking garages and schit?
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Tailgating happens in those sorry arsse towns where there is nothing else to do. Why the heck would I want to get to the stadium 4 hours early and hang out in the parking lot?
Who does that????!!!????
Pleny of places to get high and drunk, or simply get some grub before you go in the game.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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What’s that mean, you go both ways, fagget?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
KK,
That is fine, I am sure Mark Davis can hire people who can get it done.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Kell wanna talk about whopping increase in debot during Clinton years? How about MLK’s obvious commie ties and hustlin preacher ways? Wanna talk some more Elway? How about Moss vs Woodson? Still wanna recant on who started the NAACP
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debt
July 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Kell we gonna play a game now okay?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Its called Guess Who Said that Schit?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
“We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
1012.Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
1008.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Cmon Koolio …
Hit us with a few more clever one liners.
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I got a million of them, bootlicker.
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Why do you use the same ones so much then?
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LMAO
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Koolio …
You’re boring the shyyyttteee outta us.
Step your game up!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
“It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few….. And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“(We) ….can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
KK,
That is fine, I am sure Mark Davis can hire people who can get it done.
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Nobody is going to build a stadium for Al Davis, or Mark Davis.
And the Bootlickers damned sure can’t help.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Krappy’s got his Pampers all in a wad this afternoon.
That’s what happens after a 6 hour nap, I guess. I’m sure KrappyWife and her bowl cut are on their way home to give the old fool his afternoon hose down in the backyard.
Hopefully he doesn’t get his old dome stuck in the microwave again.
MO PARTIES MO PROBLEMS
July 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to giveup a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“I certainly think the free-market has failed.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Bootlickers, your time is running out.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 9:12 am
How on Earth a team could be fresh off 8 straight years without a playoff sniff, yet still be short on draft picks and over the cap is beyond me.
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And the highest payroll lets not forget.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
“I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”
July 19th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Kell can you guess?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
“Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
How bout that one Kell….is that better?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
AD Football Inc?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
I bet your mouth is watering, fagget.
What’s that mean, you go both ways, fagget?
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A million one liners, huh???
You dig deep in your stash and come up with this?
LMFAO!
MENTAL EFFFINN MIDGET!!!!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Some of you people need to know if Russell and DeAngelo Hall and Gallery and Kiffin and some of the high other priced prima donnas worked out, Al looks like a genious and the Raiders are sniffin the play-offs every year and JR is bustin all kinds of NFL records.
And Al Davis is one cool cat.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
MENTAL EFFFINN MIDGET!!!!
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OOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo, I’m soooooo embarrassed, you little fagget.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Kool Kell has a rolodex of one liners.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Jhill, you’re a little LA bootlicker left out in the cold, eh? Too bad.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Kell no its that great liberal champ democrat hilary clinton….you dems are beyond stupid
July 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Yeeeaaahhhh
Raidersssssss
Raaaaaaaiderrrrrrrs!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
KK,
For such a raging liberal like yourself you sure do like to put down people who are not wealthy or those who have to live in trailers and you sure do use that gay slur quite a bit.
Don’t quite practice what you preach huh?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Kell no its that great liberal champ democrat hilary clinton….you dems are beyond stupid
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Oh really?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”–Barry O
July 19th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
KK,
For such a raging liberal like yourself you sure do like to put down people who are not wealthy or those who have to live in trailers and you sure do use that gay slur quite a bit.
Don’t quite practice what you preach huh?
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Totally not
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Kell no its that great liberal champ democrat hilary clinton….you dems are beyond stupid
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Oh really?
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You not informed about one of the big players in the democrap party favoring socialism? So informed
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
KK,
For such a raging liberal like yourself you sure do like to put down people who are not wealthy or those who have to live in trailers and you sure do use that gay slur quite a bit.
Don’t quite practice what you preach huh?
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I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
It’s some serious love goin on in herr rite now.
Can u feel the hatred in the thread!!!
Lol
July 19th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
You not informed about one of the big players in the democrap party favoring socialism? So informed
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Socialism, really?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
“They don’t want the whole pie,” she told the women. “There are some who do, but most Americans feel blessed just being able to thrive a little bit. But that is becoming even more out of reach. If we don’t wake up as a nation with a new kind of leadership, for how we want this country to work, then we won’t get universal health care. The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”
- Michelle O
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
I see Kell is off his meds. lol
I don’t see the Raiders moving back to LA…sorry J Hill, Dakota.
The Raiders should try to get a Stadium deal done on the CURRENT site. Mostly Private (NFL)/Investors and public funds.
Good to see most of the usual suspects in here!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
What happened to football talk. MR not in here so yhangs should be ok
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
KK,
For such a raging liberal like yourself you sure do like to put down people who are not wealthy or those who have to live in trailers and you sure do use that gay slur quite a bit.
Don’t quite practice what you preach huh?
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I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
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you’re a fawkin liar….you started the whole saga with you and I just becuz I wouldnt bash Al Davis
July 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
1049.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”–Barry O
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LOL!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Nooooooooo its LEN! Sup big dawwwwwwwwg??
July 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
you’re a fawkin liar….you started the whole saga with you and I just becuz I wouldnt bash Al Davis
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You’re a liar.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
1049.Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully.The more politically active black students.The foreign students.The Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”–Barry O
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LOL!
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A con artist
July 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
you’re a fawkin liar….you started the whole saga with you and I just becuz I wouldnt bash Al Davis
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You’re a liar.
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No you are the damn liar Kell
July 19th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
1052.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Dakota Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
KK,
For such a raging liberal like yourself you sure do like to put down people who are not wealthy or those who have to live in trailers and you sure do use that gay slur quite a bit.
Don’t quite practice what you preach huh?
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I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
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Very progressive of you…..
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Kk,
r u a raider fan. Or are u angry bcuz they left back in 81-82?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
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Complete utter buuuhhhhllllllsssshhhhh!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
You kept calling me an Al Davis ass kisser and called me a troll. I never even had talked to you on this thing barely
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Barry O will be re-elected, print that. Lol
July 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
You kept calling me an Al Davis ass kisser and called me a troll. I never even had talked to you on this thing barely
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You’re a liar.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
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Very progressive of you…..
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LOL…in a nutshell.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
I don’t see the Raiders moving back to LA…sorry J Hill, Dakota.
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I don’t either, truth be told.
But I can certainly argue the point, lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Would you please get it KK, this is a RAIDERS blog, not a forum for you to call people names and spread your political propaganda. Talk about the RAIDERS please. Maybe something to enlighten us. OK Kool, whey did Al Lacosale leave. What was the real reason. And be honest, not just Al Davis hate.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
You kept calling me an Al Davis ass kisser and called me a troll. I never even had talked to you on this thing barely
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You’re a liar.
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Please stop you are the damn liar and everyobne knows it. you jsut lied saying you dont start schit
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Barry O will be re-elected, print that. Lol
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So?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Nooooooooo its LEN! Sup big dawwwwwwwwg??
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What up. I’m gooood.
Ready for some Football and Ready for an improved Raider team.
I like Hue, I like our draft, and I like our chances!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I attack people who attack me, by any means necessary, ok?
I usually don’t start the name-calling.
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Very progressive of you…..
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Thank-you.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Barry O will be re-elected, print that. Lol
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So?
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Godd Bless America.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
You’re a liar.
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Another classic one liner.
I need to be writing these down, eh?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Brien Bootlicker
Whatever, ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I don’t either, truth be told.
But I can certainly argue the point, lol
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For sure J Hill. I Remember feeling like I’d lost an old family friend when the Raiders left Oakland.
I never gave up hope that they’d return. You are now where I was many years ago. Ha!
July 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Whatever, ok?
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jot, jot, jot ….
scribble, scribble, scribble ….
July 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Nooooooooo its LEN! Sup big dawwwwwwwwg??
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What up. I’m gooood.
Ready for some Football and Ready for an improved Raider team.
I like Hue, I like our draft, and I like our chances!
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you know it man…..hoep to meet ya this year….meeting some of the fellas last year and winning more games made the season enjoyable
July 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
You’re a liar.
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Another classic one liner.
I need to be writing these down, eh?
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It’s the truth. He is a liar.
July 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Whatever, ok?
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jot, jot, jot ….
scribble, scribble, scribble ….
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Jhill….you better step your game up…..copy all post just like Kell
July 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
http://smellypoop.com/
July 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Jhill, I take notes too,
You’re a dumbass MENTAL EFFIN MIDGET!!!!
LMAO
July 19th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
You’re a liar.
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Another classic one liner.
I need to be writing these down, eh?
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It’s the truth. He is a liar.
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Jhill….Kell is lying….you know when I feel attacked like he did with me then I go bad. He just couldnt compete at all
July 19th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
You are now where I was many years ago. Ha!
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Like Dakota points out …
The thought of being able to catch a Laker-Raider double header on Sundays????
Yeah I realize that’s right there with 40 thinking he could be mayor, lol
July 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
1086.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Jhill, I take notes too,
You’re a dumbass MENTAL EFFIN MIDGET!!!!
LMAO
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Koolio
Whatever, ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
you know it man…..hoep to meet ya this year….meeting some of the fellas last year and winning more games made the season enjoyable
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We’ll hook up this season.
For sure.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Like Dakota points out …
The thought of being able to catch a Laker-Raider double header on Sundays????
Yeah I realize that’s right there with 40 thinking he could be mayor, lol
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At least in your case it’s a possibility, Dakota would have to fleece many “traders” in his shop to be able to make it happen. lol
July 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Jhill….Kell is lying….
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Of course he is.
The second anyone endorses a move made by Al Davis, you are a bootlicker.
I L’dMFAO when he finally got around to calling me one. I even clowned him on that old arsse term and he changed it up for a second, lol.
Koolio is just an old fool.
Did you see England trying to hollar at him on some old veteran stuff? Koolio even shine a fellow serviceman on.
Who does that??????
July 19th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Jshill
Would have to sell a lot of ass to make that happen, too.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
You two bootlickers get a room.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Can someone tell me why Kevin Kolb is a better prospect than Glo?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Kell calling out shills? hahahahahaha
The arbiter of all things Raiders.
Kell, the fair and balanced.
(”fair” and “balanced”)… is funny on many levels.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
If you call me a bootlicker, then you must be one too.
(sung to the tune of ‘tracks of my tears’ by the great Smoket Robinson and the Miracles)
Just because you come in here and make fun of me, I need some help too.
So take a good look at my arse, you see I’m tired of being called names, so take a good look at my arse, and know I can call you names too.
People say I dont like Al Davis well maybe I dont
But I guess I’m jealous of him but I wont let it show.
So take a good look at my arse, and these tears are cause you called me names, well I dont like Al Davis so call me names, and I call you names too.
I cant help it if I spend all day here, you would to if you loves Al Davis so much, oops, well I dont like Al Dais so dont call me names.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
You are now where I was many years ago. Ha!
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Like Dakota points out …
The thought of being able to catch a Laker-Raider double header on Sundays????
Yeah I realize that’s right there with 40 thinking he could be mayor, lol
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How does that work withthe parking? Exactly Jhill
July 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
J Shill tell us who Glo is, all of us don’t speak ebonics.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Jhill….Kell is lying….
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Of course he is.
The second anyone endorses a move made by Al Davis, you are a bootlicker.
I L’dMFAO when he finally got around to calling me one. I even clowned him on that old arsse term and he changed it up for a second, lol.
Koolio is just an old fool.
Did you see England trying to hollar at him on some old veteran stuff? Koolio even shine a fellow serviceman on.
Who does that??????
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All Kell has to do is shine my shoes……come on Kell….I got a shiny nickel for ya
July 19th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Noun 1. bootlicker – someone who humbles himself as a sign of respect; who behaves as if he had no self-respect
apple polisher, fawner, groveler, groveller, truckler
ass-kisser, crawler, sycophant, toady, lackey – a person who tries to please someone in order to gain a personal advantage
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I’ve not met many people in my life that fit this term.
Those that Kell paints with this brush do not fit the description.
You need a different term Kell.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Bootlicker Society Yeah! Unite and take a dump on Al Davis hasters. Big Poop signing out!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
you know it man…..hoep to meet ya this year….meeting some of the fellas last year and winning more games made the season enjoyable
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We’ll hook up this season.
For sure.
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Hell yeah…we going for it this year mayne!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Noun 1. bootlicker – someone who humbles himself as a sign of respect; who behaves as if he had no self-respect
apple polisher, fawner, groveler, groveller, truckler
ass-kisser, crawler, sycophant, toady, lackey – a person who tries to please someone in order to gain a personal advantage
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I’ve not met many people in my life that fit this term.
Those that Kell paints with this brush do not fit the description.
You need a different term Kell.
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That’s why Kell is an absolute loser…..hope he gets sec 215 tix
July 19th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Can someone tell me why Kevin Kolb is a better prospect than Glo?
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He is not
July 19th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
To Bootlickers, Al Davis reputation comes first, Raider wins & losses, somewhere after.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
How does that work with the parking?
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There you go with that parking lot pimpin again.
Trust me, you’d much rather be in that new Bz farm downtown than in some parking lot full of broken glass and drunken fans.
Hang out at a REAL place instead of frickin parking lot! Like you said, it’s LA mayne!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Here’s an example:
Bauce Rules Says:
July 6th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Kell…..the man needed his shoes wiped….no problem with that….guy prolly was a bz and b_tch that he didnt respect. Al is the man
July 19th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Here’s another Bootlicking example:
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 11:30 am
What are some of the blunders, iyo, that Al has made that makes him one of the worst GMs over the past 8 years?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
How does that work with the parking?
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There you go with that parking lot pimpin again.
Trust me, you’d much rather be in that new Bz farm downtown than in some parking lot full of broken glass and drunken fans.
Hang out at a REAL place instead of frickin parking lot! Like you said, it’s LA mayne!
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Not Real Raider cats….those fakes maybe
July 19th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Here’s an example:
Bauce Rules Says:
July 6th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Kell…..the man needed his shoes wiped….no problem with that….guy prolly was a bz and b_tch that he didnt respect. Al is the man
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Yeah shine my shoes Kell
July 19th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
all of us don’t speak ebonics.
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I love when you folk bust this out.
Really original.
Self hate is real up n hurr!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
To Bootlickers, Al Davis reputation comes first, Raider wins & losses, somewhere after.
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I disagree,
Respect for Al Davis, for some, is an acknowledgement of what has been accomplished.
Wins and loses are always, for most, the Highest priority.
Those that support AL, have faith that he will get it right, those that don’t…..don’t.
To vilify those that have faith, well, you choose the term that would fit. Bootlicker?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Real Raider fans????
What does that mean?
Fans who tailgate?
Standing around in a parking lot is really the deciding factor?
Yeah, well, when I head up that way for the Pats game, tailgating is not on the agenda. If I get there early, trying to go in the stadium and enjoy the sight. Pre game warm ups and the likes.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Len,
It’s pretty clear that Koolio is playin the fool and doesn’t have the slightest idea what half the words he uses mean.
Probably just throwing out stuff he’s been repeatedly called around the office.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
To vilify those that have faith, well, you choose the term that would fit. Bootlicker?
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Are you talking about Jesus Christ, or an 82 year old man whose record over the last 23 years suggests, he’s definitely human?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
all of us don’t speak ebonics.
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I love when you folk bust this out.
Really original.
Self hate is real up n hurr!
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Self-Hate?????????? you dumbass.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Len,
It’s pretty clear that Koolio is playin the fool and doesn’t have the slightest idea what half the words he uses mean.
Probably just throwing out stuff he’s been repeatedly called around the office.
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Speaking of offices, I thought you had a job, dumbass?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
KC, Tampa, Cincy, and Az are the 4 teams who can overbid for FAs due to the new salary floor thing.
Going to be really interesting to see Nnamdi take 20 million from one of those teams and then explain to the media that he left Oakland so he could have a chance to win, lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Now notice, when that bootlicker brought up my office, I pivoted right on his ass.
I don’t start fights, I finish them.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
To vilify those that have faith, well, you choose the term that would fit. Bootlicker?
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Are you talking about Jesus Christ, or an 82 year old man whose record over the last 23 years suggests, he’s definitely human?
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Nice diversion Kell,
Did the Raiders go to the Super Bowl in the last 10 yrs?
How many of the 32 teams have been there in that time?
I’m talking about an 82 year old man whose Jock strap you could never carry.
What’s funny is I believe that if you were in AL’s position, you’d be railing against the “Haters’ and how everyone was out to get you. LOL!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Probably just throwing out stuff he’s been repeatedly called around the office.
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THIS is funny! hahahaaha
July 19th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Anybody notice Cromartie put the Raiders on the list of teams that might be interested in signing him?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Nice diversion Kell,
Did the Raiders go to the Super Bowl in the last 10 yrs?
How many of the 32 teams have been there in that time?
I’m talking about an 82 year old man whose Jock strap you could never carry.
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Gawddammit whoever touches that jockstrap, better have some rubber gloves on.
Seriously RaiderLen, if you believe mo or not, I’m past it. I don’t hate Al Davis, I just like to win on Sundays more.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
KC, Tampa, Cincy, and Az are the 4 teams who can overbid for FAs due to the new salary floor thing.
Going to be really interesting to see Nnamdi take 20 million from one of those teams and then explain to the media that he left Oakland so he could have a chance to win, lol.
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I’ll play the fool and suggest there is still a chance that Nnamdi signs with the Raiders.
I’d never bet that way, but you never know.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Now notice, when that bootlicker brought up my office, I pivoted right on his ass.
I don’t start fights, I finish them.
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Yeah you handle so much biz in that office. Guess thats why they wanted you for Chairman of Govt Relations lol
July 19th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
1120.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Now notice, when that bootlicker brought up my office, I pivoted right on his ass.
I don’t start fights, I finish them.
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Explain how you “finished” something.
There is only one other dumb shhyyyttee on here that thinks that a talent like myself would be sitting in some damn cubicle slavin away for peanuts.
Anytime you wanna play big bank takes little bank, let me know.
Come hollar at me Oct 2nd at the stadium. If you can afford to get in my section.
July 19th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Nice diversion Kell,
Did the Raiders go to the Super Bowl in the last 10 yrs?
How many of the 32 teams have been there in that time?
I’m talking about an 82 year old man whose Jock strap you could never carry.
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Gawddammit whoever touches that jockstrap, better have some rubber gloves on.
Seriously RaiderLen, if you believe mo or not, I’m past it. I don’t hate Al Davis, I just like to win on Sundays more.
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Then shut the fawk up and sit back and enjoy the 201 season. Stop acting like a b_tch
July 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
1120.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Now notice, when that bootlicker brought up my office, I pivoted right on his ass.
I don’t start fights, I finish them.
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Explain how you “finished” something.
There is only one other dumb shhyyyttee on here that thinks that a talent like myself would be sitting in some damn cubicle slavin away for peanuts.
Anytime you wanna play big bank takes little bank, let me know.
Come hollar at me Oct 2nd at the stadium. If you can afford to get in my section.
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Jheezy to the Pats game? We know Kell and MR wont show….nor Beecher
July 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
J Shill
Talk to me about self-hate:
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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July 19th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
J Shill
My bad, maybe it’s not self-hate, at all:
Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
July 19th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I didn’t notice but Cromartie would be a upgrade over #21.
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DutchRaider77 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Anybody notice Cromartie put the Raiders on the list of teams that might be interested in signing him?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Warren Wells once ran his hand up my cousins skirt.
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Priceless one liners
July 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Come hollar at me Oct 2nd at the stadium. If you can afford to get in my section.
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My bad Koolio, I know that was a waste of a post. No way you’ll ever come to the stadium and risk running into Norco or Young B, lol.
Remember when you claimed to be going to training camp, but your group couldn’t sell enough tickets and the trip was cancelled?
That was the funniest shhhyyyyttte ever?
Why would a successful real estate mogul need to hop a group trip to ” A Day At Napa”, lol?
Git da phhhuuggg outtta here wit day buuuhhhhlllllshhhhh!
July 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
J Shill
Talk to me about self-hate:
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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How is telling the truth self hate?
July 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Bauce
LMFAO
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KoolKell Says:
July 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Warren Wells once ran his hand up my cousins skirt.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
I think MR also claimed to run his hand up his cousins skirt, or at least fantasized about doing it.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Koolio …
Every poster on this board thinks you’re a grade A arssehole.
I mean some of us have 1, 2, maybe 3 guys who think we’re FOS, but EVERYONE thinks you SUCK!
Thoughts????
July 19th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Come hollar at me Oct 2nd at the stadium. If you can afford to get in my section.
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Lmao, too funny.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Koolio …
Every poster on this board thinks you’re a grade A arssehole.
I mean some of us have 1, 2, maybe 3 guys who think we’re FOS, but EVERYONE thinks you SUCK!
Thoughts????
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I think you are overstating your case, but….oh well.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
J Shill
Talk to me about self-hate:
Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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Koolio,
Are you looking for my help with Young B?
Sorry mayne, I agree with him that you SUCK!
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Just the Bootlickers, J Shill.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Come hollar at me Oct 2nd at the stadium. If you can afford to get in my section.
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My bad Koolio, I know that was a waste of a post. No way you’ll ever come to the stadium and risk running into Norco or Young B, lol.
Remember when you claimed to be going to training camp, but your group couldn’t sell enough tickets and the trip was cancelled?
That was the funniest shhhyyyyttte ever?
Why would a successful real estate mogul need to hop a group trip to ” A Day At Napa”, lol?
Git da phhhuuggg outtta here wit day buuuhhhhlllllshhhhh!
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LOL truth
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
No, he got it right.
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KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
I think you are overstating your case, but….oh well.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Warren Wells once ran his hand up my cousins skirt.
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Priceless one liners
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NO F..ing way.
Kell did not post that!
Sounds like “Jock Sniffer” to me.
Say it aint so Kell!
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Koolio,
Are you looking for my help with Young B?
Sorry mayne, I agree with him that you SUCK!
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Oh well.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
KK the clown has 1 idiot in his corner and its name is MR.
Enough said…
July 19th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Party from 9pm to 530am wow. Can you do that without drugs?
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Riveting…a gem
July 19th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
June 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Sorry, sheesh, I’m just saying I couldn’t do it without drugs, that’s all. I’d need something besides champange or alcohol in 12 hours.
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Too much lol
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I’m afraid to come to the Oakland Coliseum because of Brien Bootlicker and Doofus Boob. Nah.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Koolio,
Are you looking for my help with Young B?
Sorry mayne, I agree with him that you SUCK!
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Oh well.
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Haaaaaaa Kell dont want it with me
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I’m afraid to come to the Oakland Coliseum because of Brien Bootlicker and Doofus Boob. Nah.
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Then come some bloggers can see you face the music
July 19th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
The only reason your not at the games is because your wife wont give you the dollars and he is right to withhold your allowance seeing as you are a lazy puke.
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KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I’m afraid to come to the Oakland Coliseum because of Brien Bootlicker and Doofus Boob. Nah.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Ah the Bootlicker is making up stuff now. Lmao.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
KK the clown, why dont you give tj a few reach-arounds he might give you a ticket…..period lol
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KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I’m afraid to come to the Oakland Coliseum because of Brien Bootlicker and Doofus Boob. Nah.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Ah the Bootlicker is making up stuff now. Lmao.
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How so?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
The Bootlickers, MLKjr Haters, Aryan Nation, come together to take on KoolKell, eh? Lol.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Gotta see Kell roll up in His “Little Red Corvette”
Then complain about the cost of parking.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
I’m afraid to come to the Oakland Coliseum because of Brien Bootlicker and Doofus Boob. Nah.
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Well what is it then?
You lied earlier and said you don’t hate Al Davis, so what keeps you at home on Sundays since you love the Raiders so much.
Seems like all the No Cal posters go to the games except you. Norco, B, Mista, MR, Dell, Len, Raccoon, Richocet, etc.
Wassup with you?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
J-Shill, how do you know I don’t attend games?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J-Shill, how do you know who attends games?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
KK the clown, why dont you give tj a few reach-arounds he might give you a ticket…..period lol
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LOL!
Or write him a letter and pretend to be 16.
Forgot about Priest. I know he’s at the stadium a few time a year.
Wassup Kell, Oct 2nd good for you?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J-Shill, how do you know I don’t attend games?
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I’m in here infrequently, and I know you’ve said this.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Gotta see Kell roll up in His “Little Red Corvette”
Then complain about the cost of parking.
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HAHA
July 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
J-Shill, how do you know I don’t attend games?
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I’m in here infrequently, and I know you’ve said this.
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Exactly
July 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I take Bart to the games.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
KK keep stumbling & bumbling MR will be here shorty to prop you up.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
The good thing about all this Raider debacle, is that attention is beginning to be focused on Al Davis, where it has belonged all along.
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HAHAHAHA even better as if 2008 changed that all of a sudden
July 19th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
I take Bart to the games.
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1979 doesn’t count.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Yeah Al Davis, won’t be able anymore, to blame others for the failures of HIS team.
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Lie he always takes blame….dummy
July 19th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Yeah because BART conveniently rolls thru Alameda to pick your fat lazy mope a$$ up.
rofl
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KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I take Bart to the games.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I take Bart to the games.
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From Fruitvale?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Yeah because BART conveniently rolls thru Alameda to pick your fat lazy mope a$$ up.
rofl
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KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I take Bart to the games.
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LOL
July 19th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
KK getting mopped up by the entire blog.
lmfao
July 19th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Brien Bootlicker’s been threatening me for years, haven’t seen hide nor hair of him.
Bauce Rules Says:
July 12th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Kell dont worry……your day is coming very soon……we know where you work…where u like to eat and what u like to do on weekends……sooner or later b-tch u gonna have to answer for ur words
July 19th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
KK leaves his 1 bedroom apartment, drives past the Coliseum and then jumps on Bart to go in reverse to the game!
LMFAO
July 19th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
1160.KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
J-Shill, how do you know I don’t attend games?
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Because you haven’t announced it like you did your alleged trip to training camp practice.
A put em in your place muhfuhga like yourself certainly would have made it known he was at the stadium and dared the bootlickers to come hollar at him.
I could be wrong though. You very well could be the hide and tuck your tail type. You know, chiwauwau arsee muhfuhga!
July 19th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
KK getting mopped up by the entire blog.
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BrownStains not the WHOLE blog, just the Bootlickers, MLK haters, and Aryan Nation, bloggers.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
J-shill
I go to a couple games a year, if they’re not on TV. Whatever. Ain’t nobody kickin MY ass, fa-sho.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
KK how many Arbys sammies do you pack into your overalls en route to the game ?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
J-shill
I go to a couple games a year, if they’re not on TV. Whatever. Ain’t nobody kickin MY ass, fa-sho.
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Cuz you duckin them
July 19th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
KK the clown, how many bold faced lies have flew out your mouth in the last 20 mins ?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
KK how many Arbys sammies do you pack into your overalls en route to the game ?
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BrownStains, go back to your pork n’ beans.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
J-shill
I go to a couple games a year, if they’re not on TV. Whatever. Ain’t nobody kickin MY ass, fa-sho.
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Cuz you duckin them
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Bootlicker, I don’t duck nobody. You want some of me, come get some, ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
MistaBrown Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
KK getting mopped up by the entire blog.
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BrownStains not the WHOLE blog, just the Bootlickers, MLK haters, and Aryan Nation, bloggers.
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Kell, look up delusional.
I’m leaving My office now, where I have a real job, created by ME for ME and my Family.
Free enterprise and the sweat of my brow, Later.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Kell, look up delusional.
I’m leaving My office now, where I have a real job, created by ME for ME and my Family.
Free enterprise and the sweat of my brow, Later.
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Good for you mfkr, you must be talking about this mfkr:
Bauce Rules Says:
June 22nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I aint paid taxes in years and I dont give a damn if FEDs read this….HEY KISS ASS PART OF MY BLACK ASS
July 19th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Well Koolio, it’s been entertaining.
Thanks for the laughs.
Gotta take the 6 year old to swim lesson, and then a bowling party.
Hold it down mayne!
July 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
J-shill
I go to a couple games a year, if they’re not on TV. Whatever. Ain’t nobody kickin MY ass, fa-sho.
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Cuz you duckin them
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Bootlicker, I don’t duck nobody. You want some of me, come get some, ok?
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Why dont you go somewhere your Alameda cop friends wont shadow. You office is being patrolled routinely. dont think I didnt know. just like you claimed to call authorities on Pedochet….youre a coward
July 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I gotta run to Safeways, be right back. If anybody’s looking for me.
July 19th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM&feature=related
That is exactly how you will be when confronted
July 19th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
J Hill Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Well Koolio, it’s been entertaining.
Thanks for the laughs.
Gotta take the 6 year old to swim lesson, and then a bowling party.
Hold it down mayne!
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his hair piece in the alameda wind? no chance
July 19th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I gotta run to Safeways, be right back. If anybody’s looking for me.
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HAHAHA gotta get some more Icy Hot huh?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Kell we looking for u at the games this year….so you gtonna let us know when you rollin thru?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Word from the barbershop, was that this was the best game seen in these parts in 6 years.
“They need to get out of that prevent stuff”
“Russell struggled, but was gutsy.”
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More Kell classics
July 19th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
We CANNOT afford a costly turnover on a punt return against KC this week!!!!!
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Riveting
July 19th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Hey kell let’s get back to the quotes of your big time folks ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
“Our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation.”–Barry O
July 19th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
“It’s only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential.”–Barry O
July 19th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
“I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe.”– Billary Clinton
July 19th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
“I hope we will come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who have no business with them.”– billary again lol
July 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
“It requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care.”– John Edwards ladies and gentlemen
July 19th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
“I had a few ideas about health care, and I’ve learned a few lessons since then, but I haven’t given up the goal.”– Billary strikes again
July 19th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
“Too many people have made too much money.”– Billary
July 19th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
“The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better than the private sector will spend it.”– Billary….score another for the dems
July 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
“I am particularly horrified by the use of propaganda and the manipulation of the truth and the revision of history.”—think she talking about herself and Bill?
July 19th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
“Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?”–LOL Billary
July 19th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”– Nice one Barry O
July 19th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Kell=coward……….Bauce outro
July 19th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
This from Kell…lol and I “paste”
Good for you mfkr, you must be talking about this mfkr:
No Kell, I’m not an mfkr, you just hate that I did it on my own without the Gubment.
F off. I don’t need the Feds nor want them.
Grown People don’t need Masters.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Good evening Raider fans. Feels like the season is actually gonna start soon… I’m jonesing bad for some Raider news and discussion instead of thousands of posts where KK gets dropkicked all over the internet.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
# PlunkforHOF Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Good evening Raider fans. Feels like the season is actually gonna start soon… I’m jonesing bad for some Raider news and discussion instead of thousands of posts where KK gets dropkicked all over the internet.
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PlunkforHOF, THEE most optimistic Raider fan! I agree.
I’m ready for the season to start. FA, Trades, actual interviews of players, coaches, etc…
Ready already!
July 19th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Attention:
Has anybody here been beat up by Brien? He threatens about everybody.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Attention:
Has anybody here been beat up by Brien? He threatens about everybody.
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Glad you’re back….i was worried for a sec….so the vapor rub was in stock Kell?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
and Kell I’ve asked just a select few for a face off….you’re one of them but you originally asked me and would be there at 5….then a year later you said you had better stuff to do…too funny. Like I been saying you and can duke it out in lot at the game or you can duke it out by Ricky’s
July 19th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
I’m jonesing bad for some Raider news and discussion instead of thousands of posts where KK gets dropkicked all over the internet.
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LOL
July 19th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Kell we looking for u at the games this year….so you gtonna let us know when you rollin thru?
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How many you think you need behind ya, Bootlicker?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
This from Kell…lol and I “paste”
Good for you mfkr, you must be talking about this mfkr:
No Kell, I’m not an mfkr, you just hate that I did it on my own without the Gubment.
F off. I don’t need the Feds nor want them.
Grown People don’t need Masters.
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You probably apply and get more Govt cheese than anybody here.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
PlunkforHOF, THEE most optimistic Raider fan!
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Thanks Len, I consider that a great compliment. I AM an optimistic fan. I chug that Kool-Aid down, and then I bleed Silver and Black.. Always have always will.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Brien Bootlicker, you’re definitely going to be more popular here, than I am.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
July 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Kell we looking for u at the games this year….so you gtonna let us know when you rollin thru?
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How many you think you need behind ya, Bootlicker?
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I’ll just show by myself Kell….so what section is it now?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Brien Bootlicker, you’re definitely going to be more popular here, than I am.
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Bauce Rules Says:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Fk MLK….Ed Teach that guy was just another hustlin ass preacher. And an admitted Marxist.
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Bauce Rules Says:
May 17th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Mista…..well sign me down for Aryan nation cuz i aint with his healthcare crap either
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That has nada to do with why. Ppl hate you because you are a closet racist who sleeps next to a white woman everynight. You cry foul when someone gets on your half breed ass but cant take it when you get pounded on here. Shut up you old dummy
July 19th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Kell says,
You probably apply and get more Govt cheese than anybody here.
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Only in your wet dreams loser. Sorry. I’ve done it all on my own with help from Nobody!
I’ll take that back, my Grandfather who served in the US Navy for 30 yrs, and was on a ship Heading towards Pearl Harbor the day it was attacked, loaned me 12,000 to get started.
F off.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
# PlunkforHOF Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
PlunkforHOF, THEE most optimistic Raider fan!
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Thanks Len, I consider that a great compliment. I AM an optimistic fan. I chug that Kool-Aid down, and then I bleed Silver and Black.. Always have always will.
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I enjoy and respect the “glass half full” perspective of life!
July 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Kell you just let me know……bauce_2010@yahoo…..open invite buddy
July 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
To Bootlickers, Al Davis reputation comes first, Raider wins & losses, somewhere after.
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Al Davis has 3 Super Bowls.
What is your point?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
I enjoy and respect the “glass half full” perspective of life!
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Some of the mopes on this blog should give it a try sometime.. just sayin
July 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
July 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Kell you just let me know……bauce_2010@yahoo…..open invite buddy
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There it is. Just need to follow up Kell.
Just like you do when you’re sellin a house. Right?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
And no it doesn’t. Al Davis has always put a premium on winning. He’s made some bad choices, but the choices were made for his team, not his reputation. That is already intact. The wins will be here this year, so reserve judgement.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
July 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Kell you just let me know……bauce_2010@yahoo…..open invite buddy
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There it is. Just need to follow up Kell.
Just like you do when you’re sellin a house. Right?
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Only been up since last year
July 19th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
#1228 Double “O”… word
July 19th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Some of the mopes on this blog should give it a try sometime.. just sayin
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Yes, but some are not capable. Old dog, new tricks…you get the idea.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Kwell u just wanna ruin folks times on here. We are looking forward to 2011 while you and a few others wanna lose
July 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Just cause someone can appreciate what Davis has done does not make them a bootlicker.
Just because someone is angry and posts left wing radical libtard tripe doesn’t make them a commie, but one would wonder.
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
Some people work extremely hard for a living and things don’t always go their way. Al got jerked off by Russell and Hall and a few others along the way. They took his money didn’t they, but said screw you when it came time to go to work.
Some people like to rag on Al Davis becausse it makes them feel good.
Go ahead and point your finger if you like, but how clean is your arse.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Only been up since last year
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LOL Kell is a busy man. Tours of Homes, meetings, naps, blogging!
He’ll get around to it. Right Kell?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Just cause someone can appreciate what Davis has done does not make them a bootlicker.
Just because someone is angry and posts left wing radical libtard tripe doesn’t make them a commie, but one would wonder.
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
Some people work extremely hard for a living and things don’t always go their way. Al got jerked off by Russell and Hall and a few others along the way. They took his money didn’t they, but said screw you when it came time to go to work.
Some people like to rag on Al Davis becausse it makes them feel good.
Go ahead and point your finger if you like, but how clean is your arse.
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Kell= “Spoken like a true bootlicker”
July 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Only been up since last year
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LOL Kell is a busy man. Tours of Homes, meetings, naps, blogging!
He’ll get around to it. Right Kell?
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And shining my kicks….ya know like Boss man Al does at times. Drop a hand towel…he ya go Kelly….polish my kicks
July 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
# Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Just cause someone can appreciate what Davis has done does not make them a bootlicker.
Just because someone is angry and posts left wing radical libtard tripe doesn’t make them a commie, but one would wonder.
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
Some people work extremely hard for a living and things don’t always go their way. Al got jerked off by Russell and Hall and a few others along the way. They took his money didn’t they, but said screw you when it came time to go to work.
Some people like to rag on Al Davis becausse it makes them feel good.
Go ahead and point your finger if you like, but how clean is your arse.
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Spot on!
July 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
#1228 Double “O”… word
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Almost went with Oily Oblimey, but that sounded to slippery. A little greasy perhaps.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
You’re a Bootlicker when you put Davis before the team.
Brien Bootlicker is prime example.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I will admit that KK is a inspiration to me to champion Al Davis, I have not always agreed will Al. There are times I wanted to scream at him. But it is his ball club, and he can do with it as he pleases.
Anything short of what it is right now would not be Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders.
So rag on him some more and just remind me of how dear he is to his beloves Raiders and I’ll remind you again it is his team, like it or not.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
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His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
You’re a Bootlicker when you put Davis before the team.
Brien Bootlicker is prime example.
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Either let’s talk about the links and quotes or shine my kicks….which will it be?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Who would you rather have own and or run the Raiders KK?
NO ONE. Its Als’ team, got it?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I will admit that KK is a inspiration to me to champion Al Davis, I have not always agreed will Al. There are times I wanted to scream at him. But it is his ball club, and he can do with it as he pleases.
Anything short of what it is right now would not be Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders.
So rag on him some more and just remind me of how dear he is to his beloves Raiders and I’ll remind you again it is his team, like it or not.
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Bootlicker
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Alright, let’s hear some predictions as to the first announced move by my beloved Oakland Raiders when the lockout ends.
PlunkforHOF:….. Michael Bush resigned
July 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
You’re a Bootlicker when you put Davis before the team.
Brien Bootlicker is prime example.
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Wrong.
I’d say this though, Kell you bootlick the Feds.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
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His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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So was your big time housing sales but u still hang on to it
July 19th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Who would you rather have own and or run the Raiders KK?
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Al Davis has lost 57% of his games since 1989. I guess anybody else would do.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
PlunkforHOF Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
Alright, let’s hear some predictions as to the first announced move by my beloved Oakland Raiders when the lockout ends.
PlunkforHOF:….. Michael Bush resigned
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Kell gets a new pace maker
July 19th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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Not today.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
You’re a Bootlicker when you put Davis before the team.
Brien Bootlicker is prime example.
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Wrong.
I’d say this though, Kell you bootlick the Feds.
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He gives fellatio to Barry O
July 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
So was your big time housing sales but u still hang on to it
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I’m not ruining the careers of Raider players.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
He gives fellatio to Barry O
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LOL!
July 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
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His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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So was your big time housing sales but u still hang on to it
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No answers, make threats.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Who did he ruin?
You have ruined the lives of home buyers for years now….what do u think is worse?
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bootlicker
You give Newt Gingrich fellatio
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Who did he ruin?
You have ruined the lives of home buyers for years now….what do u think is worse?
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I’d be fired if that were so.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Some people can respect the accomplishments of others, some can’t.
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His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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So was your big time housing sales but u still hang on to it
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No answers, make threats.
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What threat did I make dummy?
You made a comment, what do you want an answer for? It wasnt a question you ridiculous old stooge
July 19th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
Kell says, No answers, make threats.
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This is senseless, unless this is your inner dialogue spilling onto a page. LOL!
July 19th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
You made a comment, what do you want an answer for? It wasnt a question you ridiculous old stooge
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See post #1259
July 19th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bootlicker
You give Newt Gingrich fellatio
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ooooh what a nice comeback Kell…..as Mrs Kelly has gotten older has her looks faded? In that case its a good thing
July 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 18th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
504,
Ready to call the winner in the Kareem Jackson-Javier Arenas debate yet?
Jackson = Garbage
Arenas = future Pro Bowler
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No way JFB,
Is Arenas even a starter? Put up their stats. I know you have’em.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Who did he ruin?
You have ruined the lives of home buyers for years now….what do u think is worse?
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I’d be fired if that were so.
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Please bigger crooks than you have gotten off before
July 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
What threat did I make dummy?
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All up & down the page, Bootlicker.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Jerry, I think its time for a new post.
July 19th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
What threat did I make dummy?
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All up & down the page, Bootlicker.
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Idiot I was referencing that one statement you dumbass
July 19th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bootlicker
You give Newt Gingrich fellatio
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ooooh what a nice comeback Kell…..as Mrs Kelly has gotten older has her looks faded? In that case its a good thing
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See, there you go with family. Just pointing out.
Tell your skank ass mother to wash the lice out of her puzzy, ok?
July 19th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Bauce Rules Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Bootlicker
You give Newt Gingrich fellatio
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ooooh what a nice comeback Kell…..as Mrs Kelly has gotten older has her looks faded? In that case its a good thing
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See, there you go with family. Just pointing out.
Tell your skank ass mother to wash the lice out of her puzzy, ok?
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Kell….that was your best comeback?
July 19th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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No, they are not.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Kell….that was your best comeback?
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Oh, I got plenty more, if you can’t keep my wife out of it.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Kell we not about to discuss the nameless d–ks that have penetrated Mrs Kelly when you have took your medication for the night
July 19th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Hell looks are arent everything…in Mrs Kelly’s case they are nothing
July 19th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
# Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
His accomplishments were 30 years ago. The Raiders are the lauhingstock of the league today.
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No, they are not.
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Exactly. Problem is, it throws Kell off his game.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I wonder does she talk out of her beak with all the face lifts that great commission checks from K&A
July 19th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Man, this is just sad now..
July 19th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Kell….that was your best comeback?
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Oh, I got plenty more, if you can’t keep my wife out of it.
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Please use them becuz u stinkin it up so far
July 19th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Brien
They say your mother has skid marks going up half her back?
July 19th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Please use them becuz u stinkin it up so far
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That’s funny!
C’mon Kell, step it up.
Lay a Knock / Knock joke on us or something.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Bootlicker
I fked your mammy and dared her to mutter,
she’s so nasty now a dog would’nt even fk her.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Kell at that barbershop i know they dont charge you to cut your hair but charge you to find it
July 19th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Brien
They say your mother has skid marks going up half her back?
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Hella ancient old man…..step your joke acumen up FoolKell
July 19th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Kool Kell, just accept Al Davis for who he is and be kind to him.
So things haven’t worked out for him the last few years. You think he doesn’t feel that?
Or do you get your gonads off knowing he suffers like that?
When Al and Hue make it to the post season, give him his due, and maybe we can all respect one another.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Bootlicker
I fked your mammy and dared her to mutter,
she’s so nasty now a dog would’nt even fk her.
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Stop googling ancient ass jokes old man Keller
July 19th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Kell I know deep down you got a huge heart and the gut to match
July 19th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Hey Kell one more thing. I’ve never believed that story about Al droppin a towel on the floor. Just some made up tripe by some gossip artist.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
The next morning they found that btch dead,
With her drawers wrapped around her nappy assed head.
And the crabs were mad as a mfkr
To see Brien’s daddy
eat em out of their gawdamned supper.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
The next morning they found that btch dead,
With her drawers wrapped around her nappy assed head.
And the crabs were mad as a mfkr
To see Brien’s daddy
eat em out of their gawdamned supper.
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Ha see Kell just aimlessly flailing his arms hitting only air? This is classic
July 19th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
OO, you’re a cultist, believe what you want. I don’t give a fk if you believe it or not.
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But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/2/index.htm
July 19th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
This exhibit of blaxploitation lingo is awesome….keep it rollin Kell
July 19th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
OO, you’re a cultist, believe what you want. I don’t give a fk if you believe it or not.
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But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/2/index.htm
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It was prolly one of Kell’s friends…if that’s the case then he deserved it
July 19th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Bootlicker
I only fked your momma to stay in shape,
God knows she’s ugly as ape.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Kell I’ll leave ya too it….we are all laughing at ya….carry on…I’ll just sit back lol
July 19th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Bootlicker
I only fked your momma to stay in shape,
God knows she’s ugly as ape.
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Ha you’re still part of the Gilbert grape family so spare us the in shape routine lol
July 19th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Bootlicker
hahahaha, hehehehe, hahahaha, you’re sooooooo funny.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Your (My) 2011 Oakland Raiders!
QB:
08 Jason Campbell, 07 Kyle Boller
(Bring back Frye and O’Sullivan – and let ‘em scrap it out for the 3 and 4 spots – let Grads go.)
HB:
20 Darren McFadden, 29 Michael Bush, 00 Taiwan Jones, 25 Rock Cartwright
(Let Bennett and Rankin go – Keep Rock as Special Teams Beast. Rock should also fill in at FB imo.)
FB:
45 Marcel Reece, 41 Manase Tonga
(one big guy, one fast guy – keep ‘em both,)
WR:
81 Chaz Schilens, 18 Louis Murphy, 12 Jacoby Ford, 85 Darrius Heyward-Bey, 00 Denarius Moore, 00 David Ausberry
(So long N. Miller, JLH, Adeniji, – maybe keep Bodiford for special teams. Definitely bring in a Vet FA, like Plax or Chad.)
TE:
Please Sign 80 Zach Miller!, 83 Brandon Myers, 00 Richard Gordon
(Bye Brock.)
OLine:
68 Jared Veldheer LT, 60 Daniel Loper LG, 00 Stefen Wisniewski C, 66 Cooper Carlisle RG, 75 Mario Henderson RT, 74 Bruce Campbell OG/OT, 00 Joe Barksdale OG/OT, 67 Roy Schuening OG, 69 Khalif Barnes OT/TE, 64 Samson Satele C
(Goodbye Langston Walker and Alex Parsons – Hopefully the Rookies will be quick studies because Carlisle and Henderson have sucked at times. Keep Satele as backup.)
DLine:
99 Lamarr Houston LE, 79 John Henderson RDT/NT, 93 Tommy Kelly NT/RDT, 92 Richard Seymour RDT/RE, 77 Matt Shaughnessy RE/LE, 91 Trevor Scott DE/WLB/TE, 90 Desmond Bryant DT/DE
(I don’t know about Tommie Hill, maybe keep him and lose Bryant. So Long Jarvis Moss. I’m all for getting Fat Albert at this point.)
LB:
96 Kamerion Wimbley SLB, 55 Rolando McClain MLB, 52 Quentin Groves WLB, 50 Travis Goethel, 56 Quentin Scott
(Lose Free agents Howard, Williams, and R. Brown. I dunno who Bruce Davis II is, I would be down to bring back Morrison for depth.)
CB:
37 Chris Johnson LCB, 26 Stanford Routt RCB, 22 Walter McFadden, 23 Jeremy Ware, 00 Chimdi Chekwa, 00 DeMarcus Van Dyke
(21 Nnamdi Asomugha isn’t coming back. Bummer! Who is Joe Porter?)
S:
31 Hiram Eugene FS, 33 Tyvon Branch SS, 34 Mike Mitchell, 27 Stevie Brown, 40 Jerome Boyd
(I would much rather see Eugene go than Huff.)
ST:
11 Sebastian Janikowski, 09 Shane Lechler, 59 Jon Condo
Decent team! It seems the OLine may be the biggest weakness, especially the right side. I’m not worried about the secondary – because teams will be running it at us as usual. I really hope Romac will be the most improved, and that Mike Mitchell will see lots of time.
Go Raiders!
July 19th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
And in other news……
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Authorities in Tennessee say a drunken man was arrested after wandering into a church where the sheriff had been worshipping.
Sheriff David Andrews said 42-year-old Gregory Blaine Wade of Cookeville showed up Wednesday at the Jefferson Avenue Church of Christ just as a service was ending.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Only BIG sinners go to church on Wednesday.
July 19th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
KK, I am no athiest commie cultist, I just don’t get my gonads off raggin and 82 year old man, who you should show a little more respect to because no one should rag an old man like that. I thought libtards were supposed to be about the common welfare concerns for all folk. But if your self made, well f that, huh?
Or are you more like hillariously hilory and the hidden agenda rainbow band steam rollin freak show for one and all?
July 19th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Obnoxious Odors Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
KK, I am no athiest commie cultist, I just don’t get my gonads off raggin and 82 year old man, who you should show a little more respect to because no one should rag an old man like that. I thought libtards were supposed to be about the common welfare concerns for all folk. But if your self made, well f that, huh?
Or are you more like hillariously hilory and the hidden agenda rainbow band steam rollin freak show for one and all?
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Oh yeah, you’re sooooooo impartial. And a cross-posting troll, to boot.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I dont know if this is true or not, but you can deny if you must.
I heard when you went to the doctor he was pretty adamant that you had to quit masturbaiting.
And when asked him ‘why’
he told you that he needed to finish the exam and you needed to keep still.
Thats pretty nasty. You need to clean yourself up.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Upon Entering this Blog: Beware of Flying Purse Straps.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Hey KK, I asked you whatever happened to Al LaCosale and you couldn’t tell me. Why, that was just an honest question with no strings and you didn’t even answer me. Don’t you know? I really have heard many different things and would really like to know. Thank You in advance.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Short Preseason, Tough schedule, Rookie Center.
I predict this will be a rough season for the Raiders – much tougher than last year.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
BigTed707 Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Upon Entering this Blog: Beware of Flying Purse Straps.
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Atop the page read:
“Abandon all hope, ye whom enter.”
Dantes Inferno
July 19th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
http://www.facebook.com/Raiders
Almost 1 million people like it! Check it out haters, people still love the Raiders.
July 19th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Obnoxious Odors
You’re obviously not local. People here can’t stand Al Davis, generally.
But the Raiders, yeah.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Honest KK, I really dont know the scoop on Al LaCosale. Did he quit, retire or was his contract not renewed? Or did lap dog edge him out. I know your privy to some of the inside scoop, so let me know. I always respected Mr LaCosale, and wondered why he left. Now if you don’t know, just say so. Why can’t you answer my question, I thought this was mostly a Raider blog.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
KK, If you can’t answer my question of what happened to Al LaCosale, I have no choice but to think all your are is a hater. You say you know the Raiders all the way back to before Al Davis. But I won’t believe you anymore and just think the only reason you come in here is you like the beatings Bauce administers to you on a daily basis. And you hate Al Davis.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Obnoxious Odors
You’re obviously not local. People here can’t stand Al Davis, generally.
But the Raiders, yeah.
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Don’t believe you. Not true. People love Al Davis.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
If my memeory serves me right Mr Davis biult a team that went to the SB in 2002 so why is someone saying his accomplishments are 30 years old?
You do’t have to like Mr Davis to recognize what he’s done. In fact you can dislike him and still respect what he’s done. Ths team we have today has some real talent on it he has rebiult this team fron scratch. When the entire world was saying there was no way he could do it.
A few years ago when his name was mentioned “the game has passed him by” would follow and now you don’t hear that anymore. The laughter has gone from rolling in the aisles to a smirk. They still doubt but not outloud.
July 19th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Good Evening Gentlemen!
July 19th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I see the inmates are still all here. That is nice.
Wish they would seal the deal and get football rolling. The longer they wait makes me nervous. Someone just might get the chance to walk out on negotiations and things could go back in the tank.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Odorous
As far as I know, Lil Al retired.
July 19th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Fair enough.
http://www.raiderdrive.com/hes_come_a_long_way_baby.htm
July 19th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Question from Clifford Geigle: Given your experience in other organizations throughout the NFL, is the league-wide perception of the Raiders organization wrong? Furthermore, does this perception broaden itself onto the playing field, in turn leading to questionable calls against our Silver and Black?
Coach Jackson: Yes, I do believe that there is a perception from people that think that we are being treated unfairly. I don’t subscribe to that for this reason – until we become the team we want to become, we can’t ever worry about that. Until we learn to quit beating ourselves pre-snap with concentration penalties, until we learn to quit beating ourselves turning the ball over, not getting enough turnovers, until we learn to tackle and block the way I think we need to tackle and block, I think all those things are going to be said. When we become the football team that I envision us becoming, I think we leave no doubt. I think what the perception is won’t be an issue. The issue is us being as good as we can be as fast as we can be it.
http://bit.ly/pxpbxc
July 20th, 2011 at 12:27 am
to whom it may concern ,lets get one thing clear right now …..keep yo mama outa my yard ,and ill keep my yard outa yo mama ….and if i want any come back from you ill wipe it off yo face …you guys are funny azz mofo’s looks like it time for some football
July 20th, 2011 at 12:38 am
I recall Jerry posting some stuff about the Raiders usually not being active at the beginning of the period during which FAs are signed. That it’s been AD’s pattern to see how the market shakes out, and then make a move.
That’s something that might have to change if the Raids intend to make a splash this year.
The 3 day period to sign your own FAs, and the almost certain frenzy of signings that will occur afterward, makes it imperative that the front office has a definite plan of action and is prepared to act quickly and decisively.
This is going to be very interesting.
Go get em, Al !
July 20th, 2011 at 1:08 am
As I watch the bowl game between Tenn and UNC “Music City Bowl” Bob Davie who was the HC of Notre Dame makes a comment about Denarius Moore. He says Denarius in the last 4 games has played as good as any rec’r in the country. As I watch Moore make one circus catch after another. One player comes to mind he’s not only biult like Tim Brown but his game will at times remond you of Tim. He snatch catches as good as anyone I can think of, and his transition is almost as quick as someone who’s been in the pros for 6-7 years. Very smooth and catches the ball effortlessly. This kid is a beautiful rec’r to watch play excellent hands and runs clean routes. How this kid lasted until the 5th rnd is criminal………….period
July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 am
1295. Decent line up.
Young linemen, Chaz, T. Jones & D. Moore need to step up & make plays on Offense.
The young CBs on D too. Overall, Def Coord & staff must show improvement in big play prevention & red zone D.
Free agency is coming fast & furious. Media estimated 5 mos. of signings in 2 weeks.
Raiders most likely lose Nnamdi & Huff but gain who?
Some star power @ OL, WR, OLB, FS/SS sounds good.
Otherwise, a lot of young players will have to come up big.
PLAYOFFS or BUST!
July 20th, 2011 at 4:39 am
ATTENTION JERRY
Clean up your blog. Its rotten. I love that we have freedom to get out of line here but this is what happens when you allow the trolls free reign.
July 20th, 2011 at 5:23 am
So the trip to Buffalo for week 2 is losing all of it’s momentum.
Friends flaking, brother flaking, closing on our home got pushed back 2 weeks.
Oct 2nd in Oakland?? That might be do-able.
July 20th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation!
JFB, Is that the Patriots game?
July 20th, 2011 at 6:04 am
Completed draft of the new CBA was given to Demaurice Smith and the Players union execs to be voted on by the union and the reps from all 32 teams. Owners will vote at their meeting tomorrow!
NOW we are at the 5 yard line about to punch it in!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Yup, the Pats game.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Question from Nate Martin: How do you plan to fuel the excitement of improvement from last season when the team returns from this long lockout? Could this lockout hurt the potential growth that fans expected to see this season?
Coach Jackson: Yes and no. Because it’s all how we take the field. I don’t think anyone has a competitive advantage right now. All 32 teams have done what they’ve done, which is teams have probably gotten together and tried to work out the best they can. But there’s nothing like being a coach. I don’t care what anyone says. That’s why they give us an opportunity to do what we do. We need the players, but the players also need us. So I know there’s a great expectation here in Oakland as there should be because that’s what we’re all about – winning. I’m not going to take us off the hook because of the lockout. There’s no excuse for us to go out and lay an egg. Let’s have our players back so we can have the opportunity to go out and play. I’m more than excited about the expectation here. I want the expectation to be great. I want it to be great from our fans, I want it to be great from our players, and I want it to be great from our coaching staff. Then we need to go meet that demand of expectation and exceed it.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:07 am
when is the Supp draft?
July 20th, 2011 at 6:07 am
I would like to go but I would probaly flake out as well.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Well, if you do go to the Pats game, let me know…I tailgate in lot D off of 66th Ave!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:10 am
so we are supposed to be able to re-sign our own free agents starting Monday (thru Wednesday) ???
Bush, Miller, Reece & Satele are must haves imo
Bryant & Condo would also be nice
July 20th, 2011 at 6:10 am
Have these questions already been posted. They are at the Raiders.com
Question from Stephen Guizar: For the past few years, one of the Raiders main issues has been stopping the run. How do you plan on resolving that next season?
Coach Jackson: Never again as long as I’m the head coach. I’ve said it to our staff and I’ll say it to our team, I am committed as long as I’m here that we will stop the run. We will not be in the last half of the league of stopping the running game in football anymore. That’s a passion of mine. I think when teams can run the ball on you they defeat you. I think when teams throw the ball on you they beat you. When people run up and down the field on you, what they’re saying is they’re more physical than you and they’re better than you, and I’m not going to be the leader of a football team that’s going to get out-physicalled. I refuse to do that. I’m not saying we’ll never get beat. That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is I’m not going to allow someone to take the ball and run it down our throats. I’m not going to be a part of that. That’s how I feel about it and we’re going to get that buck stopped.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:13 am
1329.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 6:10 am
so we are supposed to be able to re-sign our own free agents starting Monday (thru Wednesday) ???
Bush, Miller, Reece & Satele are must haves imo
Bryant & Condo would also be nice
Be careful Rockstar, you’ll have Bo on you based on that Condo comment…LOL
July 20th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Never again as long as I’m the head coach. I’ve said it to our staff and I’ll say it to our team, I am committed as long as I’m here that we will stop the run. We will not be in the last half of the league of stopping the running game in football anymore. That’s a passion of mine
-Hue Jax
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Dang Plunk!
Hue has a ton of confidence in Chuck B & Greg Biekert to coach these guys up better than Marshall & Haluchak did…
July 20th, 2011 at 6:14 am
I come back 3 days later and JerryMac is still honoring the lockout. How about it?
July 20th, 2011 at 6:15 am
So how does Hue expect to be a Top 16 run defense with the same players on the field?
Unless we have the 32nd ranked pass defense, it ain’t happening. Pipe dream
July 20th, 2011 at 6:15 am
Mornin Nation!!!
Look like Kells took beat down yesterday!!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Be careful Rockstar, you’ll have Bo on you based on that Condo comment…LOL
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Hwnrdr,
I’ll have to make a comment about the “fumbling menace” later to make up for it … but then I’ll be on Dakota’s naughty list
July 20th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Hue has a ton of confidence in Chuck B & Greg Biekert to coach these guys up better than Marshall & Haluchak did…
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Of course he does. Would you expect him to say anything else?
July 20th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Bloggers all over his arse
July 20th, 2011 at 6:23 am
On Dakota’s naughty list? That just sounds bad…haha!
I’m glad that it’s in HueJack’s passion to stop the run, but you’re right Rockstar….with the same personnel, he really is relying on Chuck B, Biekert and Woodson to do better than what we had last year! We’ll soon find out!
July 20th, 2011 at 6:27 am
AHHH !!! GREG BIEKERT CHASING GUYS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD..GREAT MEMORIES.GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:33 am
Would you expect him to say anything else?
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I guess not, but 2003 Chuck B was the worst DC in the league. We fired him. He stunk it up for Cincy and they fired him. the dude was plucked off of a UFL staff as LB Coach
Biekert was a great player, but he’s as green a coach as they come. He has Wimbley, McClain & Groves under contract with Goethel & Brown as reserves. Sam Williams, Thomas Howard & Bruce Davis are all free agents.
Rod Woodson has a TON of youth & competition at DB. I imagine CJ37-Branch-Mitchell-Routt will start as they know the Raiders man2man scheme. McFadden, Ware, DVD & Chekwa will all compete for playing time at CB. Eugene & Brown will back up the safety spots and serve as special teams aces. Huff & Asomugha will be missed … but as long as Waufle’s pass rush continues to wreak havoc I think we’ll be fine in the secondary
July 20th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Question from Tony Sousa: Who would you say would have won the award for the Most Improved Player of the Year for 2010?
Coach Jackson: Probably when I look at our football team, the most improved player on our team is Matt Shaughnessy. I have a real thirst for the grunt part of the game, which is where the offensive line and defensive line play because I think that’s where games are won. They’re won in those trenches. There are guys that battle there. I didn’t know much about him, but obviously playing against him in practice, watching him compete on game day, when I go back and watch the tape as a head coach and watch how he played the game, I was very amazed at what this young man can become. He’s just scratching the service on how good I think he can be. I think it’s all out in front of him. But we have several guys like that. I can mention several more, but I’m glad to mention his name because he’s demonstrated that week in and week out. I think if he keeps growing and he keeps pushing himself, because I know Coach Waufle is going to push him, he has a chance for stardom in this league.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Question from John Oglesby: What are the realistic expectations for the Offensive Line this year?
Coach Jackson: I expect us to be better. I expect us to be fundamentally better. I expect us to be a roughhouse group that are excited to play, that welcome the challenge of the teams we have to play. Between our offensive line and defensive line, I think that’s where games are won. That’s something that we’ll preach each and every day. I think we hired two of the best teachers in football in Bob Wylie and Steve Wisniewski, who’s a former Raider great. We all share the same vision on how that position should play. It’s going to take a little time to mesh together. We need to find five men that are willing to go up there and grind. I think our offensive line needs to be grinding, but I think we’ll create that environment. We’ll take some guys to the woodshed and bring them back out and make them men and let’s go play.
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July 20th, 2011 at 7:33 am
1091.RaiderLen Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Like Dakota points out …
The thought of being able to catch a Laker-Raider double header on Sundays????
Yeah I realize that’s right there with 40 thinking he could be mayor, lol
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At least in your case it’s a possibility, Dakota would have to fleece many “traders” in his shop to be able to make it happen. lol
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You do what you have to! I’ve been to Cali 3 times in the last 4 years. 3000 mile round trip. Not too difficult.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:40 am
1336.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Be careful Rockstar, you’ll have Bo on you based on that Condo comment…LOL
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Hwnrdr,
I’ll have to make a comment about the “fumbling menace” later to make up for it … but then I’ll be on Dakota’s naughty list
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Don’t press your luck.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:46 am
“2003 Chuck B was the worst DC in the league. We fired him. He stunk it up for Cincy and they fired him. the dude was plucked off of a UFL staff as LB Coach”
This was my concern as well when I heard he would be our DC.
July 20th, 2011 at 7:51 am
But wasn’t he our DC in 2002 as well? Or was he just our LBs coach?
July 20th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Here you go LIBTARDS. Steve Wynn (D)voted for pres purp lips but here’s how he feels 3 years later:
“This administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime,” Wynn said. “This is O_bama’s deal and it’s O_bama that’s responsible for this fear in America.”
Wynn says O_bama’s policies stopped him from an expansion in Las Vegas that would have created 10,000 direct jobs.
“The business community in this country is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the president of the United States,” Wynn said. “And until he’s gone, everybody’s going to be sitting on their thumbs.”
July 20th, 2011 at 7:59 am
Chuck B will do exactly as AL’s tells him to do. Just like R Ryan did. J Marshall didn’t do everything Al asked thats why his leash was much shorter.
Our D will stink under Chuck.
The end
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Hwnrdr Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 7:51 am
But wasn’t he our DC in 2002 as well? Or was he just our LBs coach?
July 20th, 2011 at 7:59 am
“My customers and the companies that provide the vitality for the hospitality and restaurant industry, in the United States of America, they are frightened of this administration,” Wynn said. “And it makes you slow down and not invest your money.”
mope & change
2012
July 20th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Steve Wynn own a casino he takes money from hard working Americans. We all know the odds are stacked against you at any casino. This is not a common business practice.
He is one step away from being a mobster and you cling to his words like he is the Dali lama.
Your just not that bright are you?
The mentality of an unemployed loser clinging to the opinion of a mobster casino owner like its biblical.
You win the Darwin award this year!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:23 am
You know that’s exactly what I want out of our political leaders to appease the casino owners in this country!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:26 am
S Wynn a lifelong Dem voted for hope & change & socialism and it bit him on his billion dollar keester, haha
At least he wokeup!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:39 am
One day when you crawl out of your mothers basement and realize there is a big world out there that doesn’t revolve around what you read on your computer, you might actually understand why people say the things they say.
A person like Wynn is only concerned with his personal business model. Expanding on his business and driven by his own personal profits, he will do and say anything he can to get what he wants. which is more of your money.
Since you get a monthly allowance from your mom of course we cannot expect you to fully comprehend the value of a dollar or how hard most of us work for our money.
July 20th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Now libtards will call Wynn a racist, mobster, and nazi. Since they cant blame Fox news for this one.
lol
July 20th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Trade the fumbling menace!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:50 am
1356.Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Trade the fumbling menace!
LOL…I knew it woul dbe soon…Good Mornig Bo!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:51 am
post 1317 to right around 1343 im impressed with what i read .thats why i started reading this blog good info and educated opinions .too bad there more post like those.very well done.i enjoyed reading
thank you
July 20th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Wut Up Nation?
Is the Lockout over yet?!
July 20th, 2011 at 8:59 am
For me the lockout is not over until we start seeing outrageous offers for Nnamdi!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Gooooood morning! Condo gone yet? Samson MUST do that job…
July 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
BigTed707…sup big man? long time no post
July 20th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Bo….al isnt trading dmac no matter how high his trade value is. that was your best player on field last tear…..u are not traading your best offensive weapon in years away
July 20th, 2011 at 9:13 am
1356.Bo Schembechler Janet Good Times Jackson Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Trade the fumbling menace!
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All buuuhhhllllsshhhhh aside, WYF is our RB situation really going to look like this season?
As Priest points out, if Bush doesn’t get hurt in the preseason, he likely starts last year as he was having the better preseason. That’s an interesting line of thinking that very well may have some merit.
JFB points out that if Bush is resigned, it will likely be for more than the starting QB is making.
And now we have Taiwan Jones in the mix for carries?
I think we are going to see some McFadden at WR this season. How else do you get them all on the field?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Condo a pro bowl caliber long snapper
July 20th, 2011 at 9:17 am
# Raider J Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 am
1295. Decent line up.
Young linemen, Chaz, T. Jones & D. Moore need to step up & make plays on Offense.
The young CBs on D too. Overall, Def Coord & staff must show improvement in big play prevention & red zone D.
Free agency is coming fast & furious. Media estimated 5 mos. of signings in 2 weeks.
Raiders most likely lose Nnamdi & Huff but gain who?
Some star power @ OL, WR, OLB, FS/SS sounds good.
Otherwise, a lot of young players will have to come up big.
PLAYOFFS or BUST!
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Right on RaiderJ.
IMO, our biggest FA needs are Vet WR, OLine Depth, and a big fat run stuffing DT.
Get Fat Albert, Chad Johnson, and Old Matt Light to mentor our young OLine.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Jhill yall were hollerin that dmac at slot wr bull last year. He is a RB plain and simple. Bush will get carries and taiwan is our Kevin Faulk 3rd rb
July 20th, 2011 at 9:19 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
BigTed707…sup big man? long time no post
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Hey ROG! Just trying to stay busy and out of trouble!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:19 am
BigTed707…..hmm fat albert chad and matt light? all vets who have played in playoff games before….may help
July 20th, 2011 at 9:21 am
BigTed707….i can dig it….im a provider of comedy until lockout is officiall over then I can shake the nonsense and talk 100 pct raider football. You rrollin to coliseum this year?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says: And now we have Taiwan Jones in the mix for carries?
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I think Taiwan has a DMac type running style – Blazing speed off the edges.
Bush is more of a Gore style RB – Running LBs over – he has the biggest thighs on the team.
We need Bush’ thunder to compliment our lightning!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Condo is a one trick pony on scholarship. With our young oline and great draft, we need his spot for a player to develop.
And dwac will miss carries with his weak lowers…plenty of room for bush and taiwegian Jones.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:28 am
You rrollin to coliseum this year?
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Be there OCT. 23 for sure.
Hoping to check out the Nov. 6 game against Denver as well.
It’s a tough schedule this year compared to last season.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am
We need Bush’ thunder to compliment our lightning!
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Should DMac be on the sidelines when Bush is on the field?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Oh chiefs game? excellent choice
July 20th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Jhill yea
July 20th, 2011 at 9:34 am
GO Raiders!
The Best in the West!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Jhill yall were hollerin that dmac at slot wr bull last year. He is a RB plain and simple.
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Well the entire secondary seemed to think he was our best WR and we have an excess at the RB spot.
When Bush is on the field as a RB, I see no reason to have a weapon like DMac on the sidelines.
What’s wrong with a bit of creativity?
DMac one on one with a LB or S is a complete mismatch. Remember the Redskins game? They had to take Landry off DMac and put a corner on him.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Should DMac be on the sidelines when Bush is on the field?
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He’s got to take some snaps off, so yes. I also like your idea of moving him out wide at times as you suggest. I also would like to see him and Bush in some wildcat type situations.
Use his complete skill set, why not?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:39 am
“Should DMac be on the sidelines when Bush is on the field?”
As a decoy or as a blocker?
July 20th, 2011 at 9:40 am
We need to find five men that are willing to go up there and grind. I think our offensive line needs to be grinding, but I think we’ll create that environment. We’ll take some guys to the woodshed and bring them back out and make them men and let’s go play.
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Hue Jackson sounds an awful lot like Tom Cable!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:43 am
What do y’all think about Coop and Mario starting on the Right side?
Good for run blocking – real scary for pass protection imho.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Deal seems close yet so far….its killin me yall!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:46 am
“Hue Jackson sounds an awful lot like Tom Cable!”
I would guess because they are both saying exactly what AD wants them to say…his words!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Coach Davis!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:47 am
wasn’t he our DC in 2002 as well?
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Hwnrdr,
Yes. After 2 years as DB Coach, he was promoted to DC in Oakland (2000-2003)
He had two very good years and two downright awful ones.
Since 2003, his amount of success (or lack thereof) is about the same as Al’s – pathetic
July 20th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Don’t know how successful Hue Jax will ultimately be as a Head Coach, but you’ve got to admire his pure energy and enthusiasm.
The man seems to want to put his touch on every aspect of the team. I believe his background was primarily as an offensive coordinator, but he sure isn’t bashful about saying how things are going to be on defense.
Have to say he talks a damn good game. Now it’s time to back it up.
It’s possible Hue’s large talk could fizzle or backfire on him, especially if the results on the field are disappointing. Sometimes it’s best to walk softly and carry a big stick.
But for now, I’m thinking Hue Jax is just what the doctor ordered. He’s exuding a hands on, high energy, bully building, no nonsense, approach.
I realize his results as OC in previous stops have been critiqued as being less than sensational. Don’t really know enough about those offenses to make a reasoned comment about that.
I will say that the Raider turnaround on offense last year was very impressive. Surely, a lot of that was due to DMAC finally being healthy and having a breakout year. Overall however, the Raids were still hindered by the oft discussed deficiencies of the OL and WR corp. And of course, JaJason !
Have to say Hue’s impact on the offense here in Oakland has been tremendous.
Of course, a coach can only do so much. Can’t turn chuck steak into filet mignon. But a good chef is going to make the most out of the ingredients he has to work with.
So far, I like what Hue’s been cooking.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Actually, screw Fat Albert. Bring in Mebane to be a stout DT for the next decade.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I hope Al and Hue are looking at Harvey Dahl
July 20th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Jhill i wont be against it ever now and then but dmac at wr shouldnt be a staple of our offense. I need murphy dhb ford and a vet wr/chaz to be making pplays at WR. that serves us better imo
July 20th, 2011 at 9:52 am
if Bush is resigned, it will likely be for more than the starting QB is making.
And now we have Taiwan Jones in the mix for carries?
I think we are going to see some McFadden at WR this season. How else do you get them all on the field?
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Mike Bush wants more than $4.5 million this year?
DMAC at WR?
McFadden was a Top 10 RB last season (Top 5 “when healthy”). How do you force a playmaker RB to play WR? The only way you do that is if DHB continues to stink and no other WR steps up to fill the void.
I don’t remember the Titans playing Chris Johnson at WR when LenDale White was rumbling for yards & TD’s!
July 20th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Yeah Ted….albert all fked up in the head. Mebane huh? Cal kid
July 20th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Plunk im on record wanting vet Guards….im not comfortable with cooper at LG or bruce’s young ass at RG…..I’ll take Dahl. Just pray Raiders dont go with plan I was told about last month for tthe ol
July 20th, 2011 at 9:56 am
WHat so bad about what Hue is saying? He is a positive guy trying to build a bully what is wrong with that? I actually think he is very direct in what hesays when he says it. And say what you wannt, but you have to admit our offense looked a lot better last year and way more creative then it did in the last 5 years. The running and passing game seemed alot more even. Hue nows how to put players talents in a position to make plays. Our offense was actually exciting to watch and DMAC is one heck of a weapon on offense. Hue used him better then any OC has since we drafted DMAC. I think he made the right call puting Grads in last year when Campbell was struggling. He let him get comfortable with the system instead of rushing him along and get his confidence up. Now look what Campbell did when he came back from getting benched. He took advantage of the opportunity. Hue is a smart guy and JC is as well.
July 20th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Get Fat Albert, Chad Johnson, and Old Matt Light
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More like Jamal Williams, Terrell Owens, and Khalif Barnes (re-signed)
July 20th, 2011 at 9:59 am
No love for oakland!!
I just heard local radio guy talking about a shared raider/niner stadium?!??! in santa clara?!?!?!/ GROSS!!!!
Stop trying to steal my teams!!! You want the ws’ in sf, the a’s in sj and now you want to pilfer my beloved silver & black, the crown jewel of sports in the eastbay?
God must hate the town!!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 10:00 am
I would guess because they are both saying exactly what AD wants them to say…his words!
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Silver,
Seriously!
I remember Cable using words like grind, woodshed, etc. I also remember him talking about it all starting up front and the “best five guys” will start
July 20th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Ted…..glad to see you are on board with getting Chad Johnson. Many hate that idea but I just have zero clue whyy. He immediately makes our WR unit better overall. I mean do you see one wR that can get you 70 rec 1000yds and 8 tds on our roster?
July 20th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Good point RR I think DMAC stays at RB. He proved himself carrying the load last year. I also think you need 2-3 good RBs anymore in this league.
We can’t get rid of Bush this year becuase we have know idea what Taiwan can do. Plus, in college he was hurt and fumbled the ball a lot. You want that stat to change before the NFL season. Also, a lot of these rookies have not got any time in working with the team during the lock out. That may stunt their develepment in the NFL.
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1391.RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 9:52 am
if Bush is resigned, it will likely be for more than the starting QB is making.
And now we have Taiwan Jones in the mix for carries?
I think we are going to see some McFadden at WR this season. How else do you get them all on the field?
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Mike Bush wants more than $4.5 million this year?
DMAC at WR?
McFadden was a Top 10 RB last season (Top 5 “when healthy”). How do you force a playmaker RB to play WR? The only way you do that is if DHB continues to stink and no other WR steps up to fill the void.
I don’t remember the Titans playing Chris Johnson at WR when LenDale White was rumbling for yards & TD’s!
July 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Hu jack doesnt sound like cable at all. If anything he reminds me a lot of blog favorite chucky!!!!
He will be one of the best coaches in raider history, book it
July 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am
B u need to take your swinging pipe to NYC and motivate these fools…
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
1310.priesttj Says:
July 19th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
If my memeory serves me right Mr Davis biult a team that went to the SB in 2002 so why is someone saying his accomplishments are 30 years old?
You do’t have to like Mr Davis to recognize what he’s done. In fact you can dislike him and still respect what he’s done. Ths team we have today has some real talent on it he has rebiult this team fron scratch. When the entire world was saying there was no way he could do it.
A few years ago when his name was mentioned “the game has passed him by” would follow and now you don’t hear that anymore. The laughter has gone from rolling in the aisles to a smirk. They still doubt but not outloud.
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In your dreams, Father Pride & Poise. Would take a division title for Al to regain respect amongst his peers: the other GMs in the league.
You numnuts seem to think that anybody who starts any organization has the perpectual right to run it into the ground. Just think if Bill Gates was responsible for MS losing significant market share. And repeatedly made peculiar moves that only reinforced the status quo. I’ll tell you what would happen: he would be held accountable by the board and by shareholders.
The fact that the Old Creeper isn’t held accountable only renders the tragedy of his leadership more profound. That and the fact that he kills the very thing he loves.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Mistic we aint sharing a stadium with niners so ease up mayne. Coliseum area is where they will be for life. Going to santa clara would all but kill the Raider game experience. No tailgating and no bart. No way it happens
July 20th, 2011 at 10:06 am
“I remember Cable using words like grind, woodshed, etc. I also remember him talking about it all starting up front and the “best five guys” will start”
I was thinking those are the words our owner wants to hear so that is why we keep hearing them.
Great in theory but applying it is a whole different story isn’t it?
July 20th, 2011 at 10:06 am
As it is i highly doubt the santa clara stadium is ever built. They may be the team to play at Farmers Field in LA. SF needs to build right by pac bell. Its best choice if they can clean the craap out from HP
July 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
DMAC at WR ? Not implausible. On the surface, this idea has some merit. If he’s as good a WR as some people say.
But I’d prefer to try to get him the ball on swings and screens, rather than having him line up as a wideout.
The man just had a breakout year at RB, and was without a doubt the Raids best weapon on offense. Why mess too much with that ?
Some of the old-timers here might remember the Buffalo Jills moving OJ to WR. That didn’t work out too well.
Can’t see DMAC playing WR for more than a handful of trick plays.
Wouldn’t mind seeing him take a bunch of wildcat snaps though ! Probably a better QB than JaJason.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
ROG…. I’m down with Chad, Plax, or TO. Any of those guys would be a huge improvement over what we have – as long as they take their role seriously. We can’t afford to bring in anybody who is gonna’ “Moss-Out” on us.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:08 am
We can’t get rid of Bush this year becuase we have know idea what Taiwan can do. Plus, in college he was hurt and fumbled the ball a lot. You want that stat to change before the NFL season. Also, a lot of these rookies have not got any time in working with the team during the lock out. That may stunt their develepment in the NFL.
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Exactly!
CJL = voice of reason. I don’t know why everybody is quick to annoint T Jones before he ever even signs, enters the facility or puts pads on. He’s a rookie 4th rounder
I don’t remember the Jets talking up Joe McKnight this much last year. Are the 49ers expecting Kendall Hunter to steal carries away from Frank Gore this year? no..
July 20th, 2011 at 10:12 am
” Going to santa clara would all but kill the Raider game experience. No tailgating and no bart. No way it happens”
I disagree with you bauce.
Its a very fiscally responsible idea for the teams to share a stadium. Both teams need a new stadium and it has worked out well in NY so why cant it work here?
Did you read some where that tailgates are outlawed in Santa Clara County?
I would wager that a good percentage of fans at the Oakland games are imported from the South bay anyways.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Mistic i like hue as well…very cool guy always laughing but lets not say he is flores madden or rauch yet
July 20th, 2011 at 10:13 am
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Mistic we aint sharing a stadium with niners so ease up mayne. Coliseum area is where they will be for life. Going to santa clara would all but kill the Raider game experience. No tailgating and no bart. No way it happens
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I could see the Raids and Whiners sharing a Stadium for a season while a new Coliseum gets built on the current site. It would only be a temporary situation.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
BigTed
I am pretty sure Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so I doubt we will see any movement there in free agency.
I do hope he does not feel that way about our O-Line however.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Great in theory but applying it is a whole different story isn’t it?
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Yes. talk is cheap
Hue Jackson is a former QB Coach (Baltimore) & WR Coach (Cincy). He gets credit for Flacco, Ocho & T.J – right?
He hasn’t been a RB Coach since 2002 and he did nothing with Stephen Davis in Washington. In fact, Davis was a beast before Hue showed up. He stunk up the joint with Jackson as his position coach and brought his career back on track in ‘03 with the Panthers
So if Hue Jax is a QB/WR guru, then why in the world did our passing game SUCK last year?
He was a TERRIBLE OC for Washington & Atlanta, too.
Cable’s O-Line and DMAC staying healthy get credit for the #2 rushing attack last season imo
July 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Does anybody know if Hue Jackson was a good OC for Cal or USC?
I don’t watch college football…
July 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
BigTed
I am pretty sure Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so I doubt we will see any movement there in free agency.
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Coach Davis still thinks DHB is the next Jerry Rice?!
I agree that OLine needs the most help.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:22 am
So if Hue Jax is a QB/WR guru, then why in the world did our passing game SUCK last year?
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Terrible o-line, shakey wr play and too much scabkowski
July 20th, 2011 at 10:26 am
So if Hue Jax is a QB/WR guru, then why in the world did our passing game SUCK last year?
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Poor pass protection, QB flip flops, and dropsy WRs. However – J. Ford showed great promise, so give Huge Action some credit.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Some people here dislike Hue calling Al, “Coach Davis”.
Not me. I love it.
Some say it just shows Hue is Al’s lap dog.
I prefer to say it shows respect, without being too deferential.
Hue is the Head Coach. Al is the owner and the boss.
But Al is also perhaps the only owner that has the knowledge, expertise, and on the job experience to provide valuable coaching input.
Hue would be a sap not to utilize Davis as a resource.
In the end, Hue has to be his own man and put his stamp on the team. I think he’ll do that and have the respect of the locker room. But there’s absolutely nothing wrong with showing your boss respect.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Did you guys see that q/a with Hue Jackson from Raiders.com that I posted last night? Some fan asked Jackson about the league bias against the Raiders, and he says it’s basically b.s. The Raiders lose because they don’t play disciplined football. Ouch.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:30 am
There’s plenty wrong with showing Al Davis respect. He doesn’t deserve any.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:32 am
J-Camp is a mediocre QB – no better, no worse.
That’s how they chose MVPs.
“Is P. Manning worthy of MVP? I dunno, how would the Colts look with J-Camp in at QB? Average? OK, Then Manning must be the deciding factor…”
He’s like the perfect measuring stick for average play – The Absolute Middle.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
“Asomugha turned 30 recently, so age could become a concern. But I also think Asomugha fits the Woodson profile closely enough to remain an effective defensive back as he ages, whether at corner or safety or a combination of the two. The NFL lists Asomugha at 6-foot-2 and 210 pounds, an inch taller and eight pounds heavier that Woodson. Woodson spent eight seasons with Oakland, collecting only one pick in each of his final two seasons there, before reemerging as an interception machine with a new team, Green Bay. Asomugha has one pick in each of his last three seasons with Oakland. What’s to say he couldn’t return to his ball-hawking ways?”
July 20th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Plus, I maintain that J-Camp looks like Lionel Ritchie:
http://boptopop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/l9kph.jpg
July 20th, 2011 at 10:35 am
lol. Picture Campbell in New England, or Green Bay. Even Pittsburgh. By about the 3rd time Campbell forced them to punt from their own 20, Harrison would steal on him. Campbell belongs in Oakland. Where losing’s accepted.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Welcome back, redneckraider. How’s your chat room going? Remember? The one you invited everyone to except me? I see you’re back. You guys, go to redneckRaiders’ chat room. Come on. He put all that effort into starting it.
July 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Campbell looks like Eriq LaSalle in Coming to America. Let your soul glo.
http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/bv-life-style/501447/1988-eriq-lasalle-jheri-curl-bhm-450a022009.jpg
July 20th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Why is Kolb so overrated?
3-4 record as a starter, no postseason experience to speak of, more interceptions than touchdowns and a sack every 17 pass attempts.
Good Luck with that Arizona!
July 20th, 2011 at 10:51 am
1371.BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 9:24 am
J Hill Says: And now we have Taiwan Jones in the mix for carries?
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I think Taiwan has a DMac type running style – Blazing speed off the edges.
Bush is more of a Gore style RB – Running LBs over – he has the biggest thighs on the team.
We need Bush’ thunder to compliment our lightning!
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I have to disagree on Bush….he doesn’t run as powerfully as one would think considering his size. As a matter of fact he has twinkle toes in short yardage situations and frankly McFadden punished tacklers much more than Bush. If Jones is a viable option to share carries with McFadden then we would be best served letting Bush go and signing a Zack Crockett type as a short yardage back.
I would hate to gamble on Jones over Bush though.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:04 am
@Dakota
“I have to disagree on Bush….he doesn’t run as powerfully as one would think considering his size.”
Is this a mental or physical issue? I hear that Brandon Jacobs dances too much instead of just lowering his shoulder and plowing people over. That some of the bigger backs do not want to be pigeon-holed as a big back?
Does Bush have this problem? Kinda like when he balked at being moved to FB? I really like BUSH! But it does not seem that he has lived up to expectations.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Dutch,
I think it is a choice on his part. He fancies himself a featured back and is looking to make big plays, which is nice, but not in short yardage or goal line situations. And he probably is a little hesitant due to his brocken leg back in college.
I don’t blame him for any of it. He should be a featured back and we never should have asked him to convert to FB….But with McFadden here he will always be overshadowed.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I have to disagree on Bush….he doesn’t run as powerfully as one would think considering his size. As a matter of fact he has twinkle toes in short yardage situations and frankly McFadden punished tacklers much more than Bush. If Jones is a viable option to share carries with McFadden then we would be best served letting Bush go and signing a Zack Crockett type as a short yardage back.
I would hate to gamble on Jones over Bush though.
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I agree. I would keep Bush for the right price, but McFadden is exponentially better than him. How often did we complain last year that DMac carried the ball all the way down the field and they spelled him with Bush in the goalline and Bush couldnt get it in.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Here is a shot of Kool-Aid to brighten your day y’all – Week 17.
(Dakota, notice Bush Punishing Chiefs in this highlight reel.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hWYea9yXBo
July 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I say let Bush walk and sign Leron McClain
July 20th, 2011 at 11:23 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Great in theory but applying it is a whole different story isn’t it?
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Yes. talk is cheap
Hue Jackson is a former QB Coach (Baltimore) & WR Coach (Cincy). He gets credit for Flacco, Ocho & T.J – right?
He hasn’t been a RB Coach since 2002 and he did nothing with Stephen Davis in Washington. In fact, Davis was a beast before Hue showed up. He stunk up the joint with Jackson as his position coach and brought his career back on track in ‘03 with the Panthers
So if Hue Jax is a QB/WR guru, then why in the world did our passing game SUCK last year?
He was a TERRIBLE OC for Washington & Atlanta, too.
Cable’s O-Line and DMAC staying healthy get credit for the #2 rushing attack last season imo
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Ummm Stephen Davis didnt play full season in 02 RRS and did not stink up the joint. That’s just not true at all. I dont have to look at the stats I know he didnt play as many games or get as many carries as 99-01 when he was beasting.
The OC in Washington Was Spurrier lol in 2003 and you know it.
The WR/QB game was way better than anything we have seen since Kerry Collins in 05.
ATL 2007? What exactly happened that calendar year for Falcons to have that miserable season? Ever heard of Vick? Hue went there originally to coach Vick and ended up with who? LOL
Cable gets zero credit. They didnt run a complete ZBS last year because of Hue’s style of play. Hue jackson and DMAC were biggest factors
July 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am
RAIDER Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Campbell looks like Eriq LaSalle in Coming to America. Let your soul glo.
http://www.aolcdn.com/photogalleryassets/bv-life-style/501447/1988-eriq-lasalle-jheri-curl-bhm-450a022009.jpg
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You’re way late man…Jhill already on that
July 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Bcz24 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I say let Bush walk and sign Leron McClain
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I dont know man….cant lose Bush. McClain cant handle the load if DMAC goes down
July 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Some people here dislike Hue calling Al, “Coach Davis”.
Not me. I love it.
Some say it just shows Hue is Al’s lap dog.
I prefer to say it shows respect, without being too deferential.
Hue is the Head Coach. Al is the owner and the boss.
But Al is also perhaps the only owner that has the knowledge, expertise, and on the job experience to provide valuable coaching input.
Hue would be a sap not to utilize Davis as a resource.
In the end, Hue has to be his own man and put his stamp on the team. I think he’ll do that and have the respect of the locker room. But there’s absolutely nothing wrong with showing your boss respect.
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Coach Davis loves JC as our starter in 2011
July 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Does anybody know if Hue Jackson was a good OC for Cal or USC?
I don’t watch college football…
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I wouldnt call it great…put it that way
July 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am
RAIDER Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Did you guys see that q/a with Hue Jackson from Raiders.com that I posted last night? Some fan asked Jackson about the league bias against the Raiders, and he says it’s basically b.s. The Raiders lose because they don’t play disciplined football. Ouch.
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Many of us already know this….dont get your point
July 20th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
BigTed
I am pretty sure Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so I doubt we will see any movement there in free agency.
I do hope he does not feel that way about our O-Line however.
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oh boy
July 20th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Wow hey, they got the entire Week 13 game against SD on youtube.
I know what I’ll be doing this afternoon.
Man I miss football!
July 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
It is a FACT that the referees are more apt to throw flags when the Raiders are on the field. For the umteenth year in a row the Raiders were not only the most penalized team (most penalty yards) but teams facing us ALSO had the most penalty yards. That shows that the refs are trigger happy in raider games. This isnt new, and its no excuse for losing either.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Dakota Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:51 am
“….frankly McFadden punished tacklers…”
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Can’t disagree with you there D. You make a good point.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Bcz,
Hue Jackson, on your conspiracy theories:
“Yes, I do believe that there is a perception from people that think that we are being treated unfairly. I don’t subscribe to that for this reason – until we become the team we want to become, we can’t ever worry about that. Until we learn to quit beating ourselves pre-snap with concentration penalties, until we learn to quit beating ourselves turning the ball over, not getting enough turnovers, until we learn to tackle and block the way I think we need to tackle and block, I think all those things are going to be said. When we become the football team that I envision us becoming, I think we leave no doubt. I think what the perception is won’t be an issue. The issue is us being as good as we can be as fast as we can be it.”
http://bit.ly/pxpbxc
July 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am
I forgot how good Dan Fouts is at polishing Rivers b@lls. He’s a pro.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Bcz,
“I don’t subscribe to that” – Hue Jackson, on league conspiracies against the Raiders.
I’m going to defer to one of the leaders in the Raiders’ locker room on this one, if you don’t mind. BTW, Rich Gannon, the our best QB of the modern era, thought these conspiracies were b.s., too.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Link please Big Ted
July 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Of course refs have done the Raiders cold in these games but Raiders dont be doing themselves favors either
July 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Does anybody know if Hue Jackson was a good OC for Cal or USC?
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I dunno, but he helped the Raiders score 59 points in 3 quarters against a division rival last season. That’s gotta count for something.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
That’s not what Hue said, Brien.
“I don’t subscribe to that”. It’s all b.s., period.
Dude, the league loves Al Davis. The other owners ARE the league. They’re the commission. As long as Al’s around, it’s one less team they have to worry about.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Tyvon Branch Thinks Hue Jackson Has What Raiders Need… Enthusiasm And Expletives
By Chuck Carroll
FNN Staff Writer
July 19, 2011
Oakland Raiders defensive back Tyvon Branch can’t wait to get back on the field. With the NFL lockout apparently ready to wrap up, Branch is looking ahead to a bright future with first-year head coach Hue Jackson.
In an interview with former Raiders defensive end Jay Richardson the JRich Report on the EYES Radio Network on FootballNewsNow.com, Branch gushed about Jackson’s enthusiasm and spoke fondly of their interactions last season.
“I like Hue a lot. He’s really competitive,” said Branch. “Me and him get to going at it a lot in practice. He fires us up. We fire him up. We get the receivers going. We go at it a lot and I think that’s good for the team. That competitiveness, that spark that he brings. I think he’s going to be a great coach for us. I really like him a lot.”
Jackson’s spark isn’t limited to just the practice field. His energy goes into overdrive on game day.
Like New York Jets head coach Rex Ryan, Jackson isn’t afraid to use words that would make his mother blush. And although her cheeks may turn rosy over the expletives, Branch thinks they’ll prepare the Raiders for battle on Sunday afternoon.
He experienced it first-hand last season and thinks it will serve the team well again in 2011.
“Before the game he’ll come up to you. He’ll cuss you out,” Branch recalled. “He’ll tell you, ‘Listen mother f’er, I need you today,’ and all this and that. And I think that’s we need.”
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Raiders at SD, Week 13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfOR5Jaj5_I&feature=related
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
I dont think teams are going to throw huge money at bush, here is why.
Bush is not an every down back. the biggest knock on him is his stamina, he tires too easily and too often. he is best fit for 1st and second down, or short yardage 3rd down. he hits the pine on 3rd and long and your scat back comes in his place.
teams dont pay big bucks to so called feature backs in free agency any longer. Backs are a dime a dozen, and unless your a marshall faulk type, or chris johnson peterson type, poeple wont pay you. most teams have at least a two headed back field these days so why pay one guy when he wont be on the field as much.
Bush is good in his role, how good would he be in the lead role? this unknown will scare off some teams, think lamont jordan or lendale white.
In closing bush is very good, i love him here with dmac and taiwan, but i dont think there is a huge market for him.
July 20th, 2011 at 11:55 am
RAIDER Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 11:52 am
That’s not what Hue said, Brien.
“I don’t subscribe to that”. It’s all b.s., period.
Dude, the league loves Al Davis. The other owners ARE the league. They’re the commission. As long as Al’s around, it’s one less team they have to worry about.
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Hue just isnt gonna make excuses for not succeeding regardless of any obstacle in the team’s way. Think a little deeper bruh on the message he is sending to his players.
Please those other owners hate Al win or lose. spare me
July 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am
I dont think teams are going to throw huge money at bush, here is why.
Bush is not an every down back. the biggest knock on him is his stamina, he tires too easily and too often. he is best fit for 1st and second down, or short yardage 3rd down. he hits the pine on 3rd and long and your scat back comes in his place.
teams dont pay big bucks to so called feature backs in free agency any longer. Backs are a dime a dozen, and unless your a marshall faulk type, or chris johnson peterson type, poeple wont pay you. most teams have at least a two headed back field these days so why pay one guy when he wont be on the field as much.
Bush is good in his role, how good would he be in the lead role? this unknown will scare off some teams, think lamont jordan or lendale white.
In closing bush is very good, i love him here with dmac and taiwan, but i dont think there is a huge market for him.
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must keep him regardless
July 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Bah NM on that link – They say Full Game, but they only got the first quarter…
Sorry to get hopes up.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
MR you are an idiot. I didnt say there was a conspiracy AGAINST the Raiders. In fact I was clear to point out that, along with the raiders being the most penalized team, their opponents are ALSO the most penalized. The refs throw more flags in Raiders games. It is not a conspiracy it is an indisputable FACT.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
J-Camp pulls that great fake on 4th and 1, and runs it into the end-zone.
Legendary!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Bcz24 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
MR you are an idiot. I didnt say there was a conspiracy AGAINST the Raiders. In fact I was clear to point out that, along with the raiders being the most penalized team, their opponents are ALSO the most penalized. The refs throw more flags in Raiders games. It is not a conspiracy it is an indisputable FACT.
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Anything to talk bad on Al Davis and the Raiders is what MR lives for
July 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
J-Camp pulls that great fake on 4th and 1, and runs it into the end-zone.
Legendary!
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That game was the highlight of the year. It cost SD the division lol
July 20th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJctYwUoeqQ
BigTed707 it gets no better than this
July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Jerry, reports from ESPN, PFT, and Rotoworld are that
the San Francisco 49ers and Oakland Raiders both want new stadiums. And if that means one new stadium in the Bay Area, both teams are open to that.
Officials with both teams told the San Francisco Chronicle that they have met to discuss the possibility of sharing a new stadium.
“We’ve put our teams together,” 49ers Chief Executive Jed York said. “It doesn’t mean we’re going to find the right deal that fits for both teams, but we’re certainly going to get a look at those options.”
Raiders chief executive Amy Trask said her team is open to the idea as well.
“We have said repeatedly that we have an open mind with respect to our stadium solution,” Trask said. “An open mind means an open mind as to sharing a facility with the 49ers. I say to Jed regularly that we should have not only an open mind to the sharing of the facility, but to the location of the facility which we might share. And so there are a lot of options for us to consider.”
July 20th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Bauce!!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Ray!!!!!!!!! So close they say to a deal….can it all be for naught?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
“We have said repeatedly that we have an open mind with respect to our stadium solution,” Trask said. “An open mind means an open mind as to sharing a facility with the 49ers. I say to Jed regularly that we should have not only an open mind to the sharing of the facility, but to the location of the facility which we might share. And so there are a lot of options for us to consider.”
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Meaning no Santa clara and that Niners would have to get punked under Al’s conditions and play in Oakland or stay at Candlecrap or try to beat out the Rams and Chargers for Farmer’s Field
July 20th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Thanks for tha’ link ROG!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/report-cba-more-tenuous-than-widely-believed/
Just awesome
July 20th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/user/RAIDERMIKETHEREALIST#p/u
Here ya go BigTed…..this guy here does a good job with reviewing the Raider games I think
July 20th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
1467.Bauce Rules Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/report-cba-more-tenuous-than-widely-believed/
Just awesome
Oh FN Great!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Hwnrdr….man now I wonder if these players side is now just screwing this deal up. They are getting what 48 percent? They need to be happy. I never think they should get 50pct tho. What the hell is the point then of having an owner? If I own a biz hell no the split aint 50. There would be no respect for my title as owner
July 20th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Exactly…I understand players need this and that, especially for when they retire, but…
It’s like what CPS does for parenting…no respect to the parent!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
That Smith guy is supposed to get the players the best deal. Now, is he getting too greedy for his own good?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Yep Hwnrdr you got it exactly right…..no worker deserves half of the split…..Smith needs to be fired if they miss preseason time and those lawyers are the worse for the NFLPA
July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Hwnrdr….just hate this we are close we are working and we got a long way to go BS. It pisses me off
July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
“If the guy they hired to negotiate the deal, NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith, recommends the proposed package, then there’s no reason to reject his advice.”
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This is what will happen, which is why everybody thinks this deal is all but finalized. Players don’t have to sign, but they will if Smith recommends it – that’s why they hired him.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Terrible o-line, shakey wr play and too much scabkowski
Poor pass protection, QB flip flops, and dropsy WRs.
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Mistic & Ted,
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
If so, please explain.
Jason Campbell is still your QB and it was Hue’s choice to bench him.
4 new starts on the o-line doesn’t offer much confidence in a pass protection upgrade. The “veteran” of the bunch is a sophomore with 9 starts that got abused a few times last year
Higgins for Moore is a wash imo
July 20th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RRS….just alone by JC and the WRS actually working together over the last year and will have the same offense has to be seen as a positive not a negative. Hue has JC as his starter still even after all of that. JC those last 5 games of the season played tough and showed why he should be the QB.
Now the oline scares me….I feel we need VETS at RG and LG?
July 20th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
“If the guy they hired to negotiate the deal, NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith, recommends the proposed package, then there’s no reason to reject his advice.”
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This is what will happen, which is why everybody thinks this deal is all but finalized. Players don’t have to sign, but they will if Smith recommends it – that’s why they hired him.
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They fkin better not reject his advice
July 20th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
BigTed
I am pretty sure Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so I doubt we will see any movement there in free agency.
I do hope he does not feel that way about our O-Line however.
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LOL. What else needs to be said about the laser-like acumen of our “Coach Davis?”
Oh, and don’t forget our run defense–zero upgrades in the off season.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:16 am
BigTed
I am pretty sure Al Davis thinks he is set at the WR position so I doubt we will see any movement there in free agency.
I do hope he does not feel that way about our O-Line however.
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LOL. What else needs to be said about the laser-like acumen of our “Coach Davis?”
Oh, and don’t forget our run defense–zero upgrades in the off season.
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Legitimate cause for concern….especially with Seymour and Kelly starting together
July 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Bauce,
Hue Jax was the ‘Skins RB Coach in 2001 & 2002.
Stephen Davis had 28 rushing TD’s in 1999 & 2000 (before Hue) – made the Pro Bowl both seasons … He had 12 combined rushing TD’s the next two seasons (with Hue) – no Pro Bowl’s
went to the Panthers in ‘03 and made another Pro Bowl, LOL.
You’ve been right many times, but this is not one of them. Hue Jackson didn’t do JACK!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
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New Center, No Grads, a healthy Chaz, plus Ford going into his second year. Maybe not major, but possible improvements nonetheless.
Why do you have a problem with Huge Action?
Do you not agree that our offense last year was WAAAYYYY better with Huge Action as OC?
Check out that clip I posted earlier today from week 17. Go to the 11:01 mark – see Ford giving a huge hug to Hue after an end around score. That kind of sideline interaction speaks volumes to me. It shows that these players are going to put in work for a guy they respect.
July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Free agency predictions:
McNabb to Seattle
Orton to DC
Kolb to AZ
Hasselback to Tenn
Plaxico to Phili
Trent Edwards to RAIDERS!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
While we have issues I still think we got enough talent to make some noise again in AFC west…………Do you know what I’m saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLXGQu-OF4
July 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Bauce,
Hue Jax was the ‘Skins RB Coach in 2001 & 2002.
Stephen Davis had 28 rushing TD’s in 1999 & 2000 (before Hue) – made the Pro Bowl both seasons … He had 12 combined rushing TD’s the next two seasons (with Hue) – no Pro Bowl’s
went to the Panthers in ‘03 and made another Pro Bowl, LOL.
You’ve been right many times, but this is not one of them. Hue Jackson didn’t do JACK!
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LOL Davis had his most yards in a season in 2001 with Hue as his rb coach and still was 4 yards a pop…as I said he wasnt healthy all 16 games in 2002….how is that Hue’s fault? Go look at Davis twop years in with Hue and tell me his combined numbers stinks up the place………Do you know What I am Saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLXGQu-OF4
July 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Free agency predictions:
McNabb to Seattle
Orton to DC
Kolb to AZ
Hasselback to Tenn
Plaxico to Phili
Trent Edwards to RAIDERS!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLXGQu-OF4
July 20th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RRS, I see you have historical evidence to support your assertion that Hue isn’t an offensive guru.
I however, prefer to base my opinion of Hue on what he was able to do with the Oakland Raiders last year. With Hue as OC, the Raiders went undefeated in their division.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Jason Campbell is still your QB and it was Hue’s choice to bench him.
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i cant see why this issue trips people out. he was pulled at halftime after 6 quarters, playing spotty football trying to learn a new team, new offense, behind a terrible line, and injured. he came back in san diego and more than redeemed himself, even though the pass protection and wr play was still sub par.
If anything JC showed toughness, and leadership. Down the stretch he even displayed the talent and showed why he was highly touted by great football minds like davis and gibbs.
I dont see why everyone is so caught up with what happened at the beginning of the year, yet they dont want to acknowledge the come back wins, the winning streak and the overall solid play which included a record breaking performance. other than just being haters….of course
July 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
JC those last 5 games of the season played tough and showed why he should be the QB.
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Yeah, we finished 3-2 and missed the playoffs
Indy & Jax don’t have the best defenses or secondaries in the league, man.
We ran it on J-Ville and still lost. We couldn’t run it on Indy and JCamp couldn’t pick up the slack
He’s average, which I’ll gladly take over bad … but he’s not good and definately not great. He’s not a franchise QB that you build your team around either. He’s just another stop-gap
July 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“Before the game he’ll come up to you. He’ll cuss you out,” Branch recalled. “He’ll tell you, ‘Listen mother f’er, I need you today,’ and all this and that. And I think that’s we need.”
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LOL!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
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New Center, No Grads, a healthy Chaz, plus Ford going into his second year. Maybe not major, but possible improvements nonetheless.
Why do you have a problem with Huge Action?
Do you not agree that our offense last year was WAAAYYYY better with Huge Action as OC?
Check out that clip I posted earlier today from week 17. Go to the 11:01 mark – see Ford giving a huge hug to Hue after an end around score. That kind of sideline interaction speaks volumes to me. It shows that these players are going to put in work for a guy they respect.
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Do you Know What I am Saying?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
“He’s average, which I’ll gladly take over bad … but he’s not good and definately not great. He’s not a franchise QB that you build your team around either. He’s just another stop-gap”
Ding Ding!
you hit the nail on the head there RRS!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“Before the game he’ll come up to you. He’ll cuss you out,” Branch recalled. “He’ll tell you, ‘Listen mother f’er, I need you today,’ and all this and that. And I think that’s we need.”
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LOL!
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Yes yes, I think I know what You are Saying
July 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I see you have historical evidence to support your assertion that Hue isn’t an offensive guru.
I however, prefer to base my opinion of Hue on what he was able to do with the Oakland Raiders last year. With Hue as OC, the Raiders went undefeated in their division.
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Ted,
does Al Davis get any of that credit? How about Tom Cable?
the Raiders got better last year because Al Davis made some personnel (roster) upgrades – plain & simple.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Oh, and don’t forget our run defense–zero upgrades in the off season.
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Upgrades?
What, did you expect our team MVP or our Pro Bowl DT to be replaced?
Doesn’t get any better than Henderson as the 3rd DT.
Houston and Bryant as base DEs doesn’t get any better.
And ShNasty anchoring the other side is as good as it gets.
Upgrades? None needed.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Bauce…….yes I think I know what you are saying…
July 20th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
JC those last 5 games of the season played tough and showed why he should be the QB.
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Yeah, we finished 3-2 and missed the playoffs
Indy & Jax don’t have the best defenses or secondaries in the league, man.
We ran it on J-Ville and still lost. We couldn’t run it on Indy and JCamp couldn’t pick up the slack
He’s average, which I’ll gladly take over bad … but he’s not good and definately not great. He’s not a franchise QB that you build your team around either. He’s just another stop-gap
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I find him above average…..Indy just outplayed us man. Better coaching and all. Hue and company werent on point.
Jax game we flat out blew as a team. JC and Dmac played great that day but we refused to stop their big plays
July 20th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
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i do see improvement in the o-line, simply because we have guys that fit the scheme we run, as opposed to a mismatched mix of power and zone guys. the line will play better because we are going to all power and gap, the zbs is out. i think im already on board with hu jacks eye for line talent, love wiz, campbell and barksdale. i think hu jack and davis know how to build a line.
How long will it take to get the youngeters up to speed, is a concern, but at least we wont have to put up with guys like harris and green, or dumb ideas like veldheer at center. addition by subtraction raiders line minus cable equals improvement
July 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I’ll give Tom Cable credit for stepping down as play caller and being the teams biggest cheerleader! Yes, Al deserves credit admitting he was wrong with JaMarcus and cutting ties with him! Who was the one to REALLY motivate them? i am not sure…I say give Hue a chance. For all we know, Al has way too high of expectations for him anyways!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
i cant see why this issue trips people out.
If anything JC showed toughness, and leadership
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Mistic,
Jason Campbell getting benched 3 times last year had less to do with him than Hue Jackson.
Jason Campbell was our best QB last year. agreed?
How do you bench your best QB for a guy like Gradkowski?
That costed us a shot at the playoffs imo. Playing flip-flop at QB like Kiffin did with McCown & Culpepper is not conducive to winning. Your starting QB needs a chemistry with his wides, right?
JCamp as a 16-game starter last season might have earned us a playoff birth. We’ll never know
July 20th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
the Raiders got better last year because Al Davis made some personnel (roster) upgrades – plain & simple.
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Disagree, Our offensive play calling was much more creative than years past, due largely to an upgrade at OC.
Does Coach Davis get credit? F’sho – who brought in said OC and demoted Cable to Time Out coordinator?
Not saying that Hue is the best in the league – but he did enough last year to earn my support – and I care not what he did before that.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I see you have historical evidence to support your assertion that Hue isn’t an offensive guru.
I however, prefer to base my opinion of Hue on what he was able to do with the Oakland Raiders last year. With Hue as OC, the Raiders went undefeated in their division.
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Ted,
does Al Davis get any of that credit? How about Tom Cable?
the Raiders got better last year because Al Davis made some personnel (roster) upgrades – plain & simple.
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Tom Cable gets nada…..Do You Know What I am Saying?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
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i do see improvement in the o-line, simply because we have guys that fit the scheme we run, as opposed to a mismatched mix of power and zone guys. the line will play better because we are going to all power and gap, the zbs is out. i think im already on board with hu jacks eye for line talent, love wiz, campbell and barksdale. i think hu jack and davis know how to build a line.
How long will it take to get the youngeters up to speed, is a concern, but at least we wont have to put up with guys like harris and green, or dumb ideas like veldheer at center. addition by subtraction raiders line minus cable equals improvement
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Yes, Yes I believe I know what you are saying
July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Oh, and don’t forget our run defense–zero upgrades in the off season.
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Upgrades?
What, did you expect our team MVP or our Pro Bowl DT to be replaced?
Doesn’t get any better than Henderson as the 3rd DT.
Houston and Bryant as base DEs doesn’t get any better.
And ShNasty anchoring the other side is as good as it gets.
Upgrades? None needed.
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No, I do not know what you are saying
July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Cost is the past tense of cost.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
because we are going to all power and gap, the zbs is out.
i think hu jack and davis know how to build a line.
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Mistic,
Do you remember what the 2006 O-Line looked like and played like before Tom Cable showed up with his cape on?
Al Davis brought in Art Shell with a power scheme “just be better than the guy in front of you” and the result of that horrid season was drafting JaWalrus 1st overall
I don’t agree with you that we’re better simply because the ZBS & Cable are gone. I don’t agree that Davis knows how to build an O-Line either and Hue has never been a line coach
July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
the Raiders got better last year because Al Davis made some personnel (roster) upgrades – plain & simple.
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Disagree, Our offensive play calling was much more creative than years past, due largely to an upgrade at OC.
Does Coach Davis get credit? F’sho – who brought in said OC and demoted Cable to Time Out coordinator?
Not saying that Hue is the best in the league – but he did enough last year to earn my support – and I care not what he did before that.
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Money!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
You numnuts seem to think that anybody who starts any organization has the perpectual right to run it into the ground. Just think if Bill Gates was responsible for MS losing significant market share. And repeatedly made peculiar moves that only reinforced the status quo. I’ll tell you what would happen: he would be held accountable by the board and by shareholders.
The fact that the Old Creeper isn’t held accountable only renders the tragedy of his leadership more profound. That and the fact that he kills the very thing he loves.
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Great Post!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
because we are going to all power and gap, the zbs is out.
i think hu jack and davis know how to build a line.
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Mistic,
Do you remember what the 2006 O-Line looked like and played like before Tom Cable showed up with his cape on?
Al Davis brought in Art Shell with a power scheme “just be better than the guy in front of you” and the result of that horrid season was drafting JaWalrus 1st overall
I don’t agree with you that we’re better simply because the ZBS & Cable are gone. I don’t agree that Davis knows how to build an O-Line either and Hue has never been a line coach
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Power blocking is always gonna reign better for our scheme. ZBS and vertical O is hlarious. Main problem with ZBS here is that the line could run block well but mostly from 20 to 20. Inside redzone we would see its weaknesses….even good ass D’s would bully our zbs built line
July 20th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Ohioraider Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 10:03 am
You numnuts seem to think that anybody who starts any organization has the perpectual right to run it into the ground. Just think if Bill Gates was responsible for MS losing significant market share. And repeatedly made peculiar moves that only reinforced the status quo. I’ll tell you what would happen: he would be held accountable by the board and by shareholders.
The fact that the Old Creeper isn’t held accountable only renders the tragedy of his leadership more profound. That and the fact that he kills the very thing he loves.
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Great Post!
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Dummy we have already heard Al say the blame falls on him…so you and ohio are both full of it
July 20th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Ted,
Al Davis gets the credit for last season. not Hue Jackson
He kicked Russell, Fargas, Walker, Watkins, Stewart, Green, Morris, etc TO THE CURB!
then he drafted Ford & Veldheer and traded for Campbell
was Hue the O-Line coach that coached up those scrubs to pave the way for a #2 ranked rushing offense?
was Hue the personal trainer or S&C Coach that kept McFadden healthy?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
So Kell….any word on those links and quotes I posted?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Al Davis is the Oakland Raiders. Get over it. Sitting in here whining about it well NEVER change that. There are 31 other teams in the NFL you can go complain about, because quite frankly, no one here gives a fly frogs fat ass about your opinion of Al Davis.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
was Hue the personal trainer or S&C Coach that kept McFadden healthy?
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McFadden was healthy last year?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
do you see major improvements on the O-Line, QB or WR corps?
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i do see improvement coming from the wr spot.
2nd year in hu jacks system and 1st with suanders, both are noted wr gurus. see roddy white tj and chad, the greatest show on turf.
another year for our young core, all wrs played muche better in the last few games of the year and i think they will continue to grow.
They spent the summer with jc. last year no chemistry or familiarity hurt them, cables set them up to fail with his ridiculous mishandling of the qbs.
our young guys are talented and havent even scratched the surface of their potential
healthy chaz the glass, fords emergence, up grade at the position with d moore.
yep its looking good in the town
July 20th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Ted,
Al Davis gets the credit for last season. not Hue Jackson
He kicked Russell, Fargas, Walker, Watkins, Stewart, Green, Morris, etc TO THE CURB!
then he drafted Ford & Veldheer and traded for Campbell
was Hue the O-Line coach that coached up those scrubs to pave the way for a #2 ranked rushing offense?
was Hue the personal trainer or S&C Coach that kept McFadden healthy?
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RRS, what is your personal beef with Hue? You are sure on the brigade against the guy since February. You are trying to deflect compliments for Hue when the offense has been among the worse for the last few years prior to his arrival.
Al is always the man but Hue had a job to do and he far exceeded my expectations. Whats the prob?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Bcz24 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Al Davis is the Oakland Raiders. Get over it. Sitting in here whining about it well NEVER change that. There are 31 other teams in the NFL you can go complain about, because quite frankly, no one here gives a fly frogs fat ass about your opinion of Al Davis.
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“Bootlicker”
July 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Bauce,
whether you’re running zone or power, you’ve got to have talented players that EXECUTE on gameday.
Cable took moldy bread and raw bacon and made the best BLT you’ve ever tasted when it comes to running the football. Pass Pro was bad, but it wasn’t 72 sacks bad like ‘06 and that mess he inherited
We’ll see if Davis gives Jackson more to work with than he did Cable. So far we’ve got Wiz & Barksdale, but we’ve yet to see them play and FA hasn’t started up yet
July 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Why are you trying so hard to convince everyone that Hue Jackson wont succeed? I don’t get it. You already have it made up in your mind that Hue played no role in improving our offense at all last year, and is going to be a terrible head coach.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Kell what link you gonna put up today to hype the great Democrap party?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
So you say Al is the one making personal decisions, but claim hue will be a schitty HC because we have a spotty OLine? That sounds like something MR would think up… you are WAY better than that dude
July 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Do you remember what the 2006 O-Line looked like and played like before Tom Cable showed up with his cape on?
Al Davis brought in Art Shell with a power scheme “just be better than the guy in front of you” and the result of that horrid season was drafting JaWalrus 1st overall
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Art shell only got one draft, and the guy he drafted booth was the best oline man on the roster. Three different coaches teaching 3 different techniques too many cooks in the kitchen. not to mention gallery wasa complete mess and was not established in any position on the line.
I look at 2006 as an isolated perfect storm. hu jack and the wiz aint havin it
July 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Bauce,
whether you’re running zone or power, you’ve got to have talented players that EXECUTE on gameday.
Cable took moldy bread and raw bacon and made the best BLT you’ve ever tasted when it comes to running the football. Pass Pro was bad, but it wasn’t 72 sacks bad like ‘06 and that mess he inherited
We’ll see if Davis gives Jackson more to work with than he did Cable. So far we’ve got Wiz & Barksdale, but we’ve yet to see them play and FA hasn’t started up yet
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So RRS, you telling me personnel and scheme dont matter in today’s NFL?
Can a WCO qb really survive playing in a vertical offense? And vice versa? Remember Drew Bledsoe in WCO with Pete Carroll?
This goes the same for WRs and CBs as well.
Al hates the ZBS because the linemen arent brute enough to deal with the nastty front 7s of the league. I dont blame him.
Yes you need talented players but you were never close to a very good oline with Cable and comapny. Had to alleviate that now
July 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“Bootlicker”
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I’ll be that. I bleed Silver and Black. I am not going to waste my life complaining about 1 81 year old man.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Afternoon Fellas,
72 sacks bad like ‘06 and that mess he inherited
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The Bed and Breakfast O had a lot to do with the sack total.
Along with Crappy O line coaching.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
was Hue the O-Line coach that coached up those scrubs to pave the way for a #2 ranked rushing offense?
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Hu Jax power scheme saved dmacs career. hu jack took us from number 32 to number six scoring offense.
This cant be denied
July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Do you remember what the 2006 O-Line looked like and played like before Tom Cable showed up with his cape on?
Al Davis brought in Art Shell with a power scheme “just be better than the guy in front of you” and the result of that horrid season was drafting JaWalrus 1st overall
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Art shell only got one draft, and the guy he drafted booth was the best oline man on the roster. Three different coaches teaching 3 different techniques too many cooks in the kitchen. not to mention gallery wasa complete mess and was not established in any position on the line.
I look at 2006 as an isolated perfect storm. hu jack and the wiz aint havin it
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Everything about 2006 cant be compared to 2011. WE feel great and confident heading into this season
July 20th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
was Hue the O-Line coach that coached up those scrubs to pave the way for a #2 ranked rushing offense?
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Hu Jax power scheme saved dmacs career. hu jack took us from number 32 to number six scoring offense.
This cant be denied
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Yup
July 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Bauce,
I give credit where credit is due. Al Davis made some roster moves and got more talent in here. He got rid of some trash, too.
Hue Jackson was like Jason Campbell last season. inconsistant. His play calling was pretty good in some games, average in others, downright awful in a few.
That’s all we can judge Hue on at this point. I already proved that he doesn’t get credit for the ground game and if you want to hang your hat on the 23rd ranked passing offense, be my guest. We deserve better imo … but I realize that nobody is kicking down Al’s door with qualified applicants
I would have been fine giving him another season as OC. A Promotion is absurd. So what if he’s a rah rah guy that the players love? So were Cable & Ryan!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
I agree with RRS and I will add this….Just because you are a good OC does not make you a great HC or O-Line coach.
Hue has to earn his crown in most of our eyes. However some of you have already crowned him and that’s cool because we like the optimistic enthusiasm.
However you feel about Cable is irrelevant to the fact that he did improve this team and the O-Line play as was pointed out by RRS in his last post.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Hu Jax power scheme saved dmacs career. hu jack took us from number 32 to number six scoring offense.
This cant be denied
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Hue only gets credit for the plays that don’t work or the games we lost.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
claim hue will be a schitty HC because we have a spotty OLine?
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BCZ,
source? link?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
No, I do not know what you are saying
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Yeah, I know there are a few thing that you still don’t quite get, young Jedi!
I have all the faith in the world in your abilities though.
Keep pushin!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
you telling me personnel and scheme dont matter in today’s NFL?
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Bauce,
No. I didn’t say anything close to that
July 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Hue only gets credit for the plays that don’t work or the games we lost
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I notice a lot of comments like this when you run out of creative comebacks or intelligent things to say
almost like watching John Henderson continue to keep playing when he’s gassed and needs a breather, not making a difference on the field
July 20th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
“I would have been fine giving him another season as OC. A Promotion is absurd. So what if he’s a rah rah guy that the players love? So were Cable & Ryan!”
This is what I have been telling people all off season. we all had hi hopes for Cable when he was hired. We all have high hopes for Hue Jackson too. But we all know who runs the show.so what has changed? what is so glaringly different in our organization that will allow Hue Jackson to succeed where cable could not?
I hate to say it but the odds are that in 2 years we will be having this conversation about our next HC while Hue is getting kicked out with an overhead projector presentation of what he did wrong.
I support Hue and back him 100% but how much can he change the environment here himself with the owner being who he is?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Wuss good Bauce
July 20th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Really? Cable improved our OLine from the worst oline in football to… the worst oline in football? All I ever heard while Cable was HC was that his OLine sucked and nothing else he did mattered because the oline is HIS baby and it was crap. Now you want to prop him up like he is superman? His record with that ‘beastly oline’ was 17-27. 17-27. last years 8-8 was literally his best record as a HC in any level of football.
Have I crowned Hue the next Bill Belichik yet? Nope. He is a damn site better than Cable was though, and I like his mentality. I dont care what you guys say, we put points on the board running HIS offense. Twist it anyways you want but we were #6 scoring offense last year.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
was Hue the O-Line coach that coached up those scrubs to pave the way for a #2 ranked rushing offense?
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No, Hue was the OC coordinator who helped the Raiders average 26.5 points per game in 2010.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Source? Link?
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“Cable took moldy bread and raw bacon and made the best BLT you’ve ever tasted when it comes to running the football. Pass Pro was bad, but it wasn’t 72 sacks bad like ‘06 and that mess he inherited
We’ll see if Davis gives Jackson more to work with than he did Cable. So far we’ve got Wiz & Barksdale, but we’ve yet to see them play and FA hasn’t started up yet”
Your words. This is what you just propped up as a reason Hue will fail this year.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Ooops, OC coordinator is redundant – but you know what I’m sayin’…
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I wasn’t sure where I stood regarding the NFL lockout.
Do I take the players side or the owners?
Well after watching Kevin Mawae’s statement, He really rubbed me the wrong way. I basically say the players can go FUK themselves! This waiting to the last minute angle to strongarm the owners is total BS. The don’t give a DAM when the season starts! Mawae good luck getting a job after this you POS. I hope you have a good retirement package in the new CBA, you will need it because that is where you will be like it or not.
I better get to use my front row seats for the second game of the season!!!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Bauce,
I give credit where credit is due. Al Davis made some roster moves and got more talent in here. He got rid of some trash, too.
Hue Jackson was like Jason Campbell last season. inconsistant. His play calling was pretty good in some games, average in others, downright awful in a few.
That’s all we can judge Hue on at this point. I already proved that he doesn’t get credit for the ground game and if you want to hang your hat on the 23rd ranked passing offense, be my guest. We deserve better imo … but I realize that nobody is kicking down Al’s door with qualified applicants
I would have been fine giving him another season as OC. A Promotion is absurd. So what if he’s a rah rah guy that the players love? So were Cable & Ryan!
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LOL dont tell me you were advocating keeping Cable. Hue is rah rah in your face guy who also digs deep with the X’s and O’s. Yes some games were bad playcalling but to dismiss the affect on the run game is the thing that is absurd. Hue does the gameplanning and we made the run a big part of what we do with DMAC getting alot of touches. How can you not give Hue his due?
I disagree on promoting Hue Jax to coach was bad. Who else were you gonna get? Cable couldnt stay as head coach at all. A coach has to be a leader of men and Hue seems more suited for the job than Cable
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Interesting takes on Hue.
I think I am more excited about the offensive coaching staff as a whole. It’s probably the best we’ve had since Kiffin put his staff together.
Cable as a HC was …. let’s just say a bigger absurdity than Hue could ever be. Should have NEVER been anything more than the interim guy.
HC and OC positions are at least filled with guys who I think give us a CHANCE to have the smartest coaching staff on the field each week.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Let me ask this question to Raider Nation.
Please think before responding …
did any teams want Hue Jackson as an OC before he was hired in Oakland?
did any teams want Hue Jackson as a HC before he was promoted in Oakland?
the Bears gave him an interview for OC and went with Mike Martz instead. (Ask Steven Jackson about Martz!)
the 49ers gave him a Rooney Rule interview for HC when they had already settled on Harbaugh as their man for HC
Please explain why no other NFL teams are interested, if he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. If this guy is capable of building an offensive juggernaut, I think he’d be hot on the market. Don’t you?
Most desirable candidates don’t choose to be under Al’s thumb and work for peanuts!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I will say this: HueJack had better come out firing with this years team or else all the I told you so’s will come out and this board will go nuts!
We all want our Raiders to do good, oh heck, we all want them to do great! But, say what you will about Al Davis, and I personally respect the guy, there is a reason why we had so many head coaches in here since who know’s when!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Wuss good Bauce
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The PDizzleOchoUNO Effect is present! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH…..just want a deal done
July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
*they
July 20th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Interesting takes on Hue.
I think I am more excited about the offensive coaching staff as a whole. It’s probably the best we’ve had since Kiffin put his staff together.
Cable as a HC was …. let’s just say a bigger absurdity than Hue could ever be. Should have NEVER been anything more than the interim guy.
HC and OC positions are at least filled with guys who I think give us a CHANCE to have the smartest coaching staff on the field each week.
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I agree….and the DC will run the D the way Al wants it lol
July 20th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
If we are truly $10m over CAP, Chris Johnson ($3.2m), Cooper Carlisle ($2.5m), Hiram Eugene ($2.0m) and Michael Bennett ($890k) must be feeling nervous and expensive.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Can we get a new post already Jerry?!?!?!
July 20th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
we all had hi hopes for Cable when he was hired.
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Not true at all.
All of us were NOT for this guy being hired.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
I notice a lot of comments like this when you run out of creative comebacks or intelligent things to say
almost like watching John Henderson continue to keep playing when he’s gassed and needs a breather, not making a difference on the field
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I have pletty of witty rhetorts that I can shoot straight over your head, and I have a great deal of intelligent things to say about Hue. Problem is, I have run out of ambition to try and reach you. You dont get it. You refuse to give Hue any SHRED of credit for improving our offense last year, yet will roll the bus right over him for any play that didnt work. You went so far as to point to him being a running backs coach 10 years ago… as if the guy couldnt improve himself in a decade.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I feel it Doggy all I want is a deal done my damn self… I’ll be at the Chiefs game for sure this year and probally the Broncos game
July 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
This is what you just propped up as a reason Hue will fail this year.
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BCZ,
No, it isn’t.
That was from a convo I had with Bauce when talking about zbs versus power scheme. And it had to do with doing the best with what you’re given. It had nothing to do with Hue Jackson other than the fact I mentioned he had a few fresh new faces that Cable didn’t (from this draft, obviously)
July 20th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Bcz24
“Have I crowned Hue the next Bill Belichik yet? Nope. He is a damn site better than Cable was though, and I like his mentality. I dont care what you guys say, we put points on the board running HIS offense.”
If Hue does not finish better than 8-8 he is NOT better than Cable.
How can you say he is better than Cable already he never won a game as a HC in this league?
Now we all have an optimistic attitude for Hue heading into the season and I am with you, but unless he produces a playoff birth he will be no better than Cable.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Let me ask this question to Raider Nation.
Please think before responding …
did any teams want Hue Jackson as an OC before he was hired in Oakland?
did any teams want Hue Jackson as a HC before he was promoted in Oakland?
the Bears gave him an interview for OC and went with Mike Martz instead. (Ask Steven Jackson about Martz!)
the 49ers gave him a Rooney Rule interview for HC when they had already settled on Harbaugh as their man for HC
Please explain why no other NFL teams are interested, if he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. If this guy is capable of building an offensive juggernaut, I think he’d be hot on the market. Don’t you?
Most desirable candidates don’t choose to be under Al’s thumb and work for peanuts!
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We all know the situation with Al. Hue does as well and could have stayed on one more year in Bmore and still be an OC this season. Guy was well on his way to that and you know it. You grasping for straws RRS. Hue has been hired before to be an OC as it is.
I wonder why the Bears would choose Martz over Hue lol. Let’s think about that one. I believe everyone gets that one shot to take a next step in life. Hue turns this thing into a success and he is all gravy like Gruden for life. You have a name when you work for Al regardless of what goes on during that tenure.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
“Not true at all.
All of us were NOT for this guy being hired.”
So you wanted your team to fail because they didn’t chose the guy you wanted?
And you call yourself a fan?
July 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
If Hue does not finish better than 8-8 he is NOT better than Cable.
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Really? Cable was 4-8 first season as HC, and 5-11 first full season.
July 20th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
almost like watching John Henderson continue to keep playing when he’s gassed and needs a breather, not making a difference on the field
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This is a BS statement to the max….Hendu should be the starting NT with Seymour as the UT
July 20th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I feel it Doggy all I want is a deal done my damn self… I’ll be at the Chiefs game for sure this year and probally the Broncos game
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Hell yeah hope to catch ya up there man…..the energy and optimism surrounding us feels real good
July 20th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
I feel it Doggy all I want is a deal done my damn self… I’ll be at the Chiefs game for sure this year and probally the Broncos game
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WORD! Me2! Right On!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
if he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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No one said anything like that.
Assistant coaches get shots at the HC job all the time. Just ask Pittsburgh.
Al Saunders was brought in to smooth some of the rough edges Hue still has. You know, wildcat plays to the short side of the field with Jacoby Ford at QB, lol.
Hue Jackson + Al Saunders is WAAAYYYYYY better than Cable + Hue.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
bauce I have to say that RRS is right again.
You are not going to win that one throw up the white flag dude.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I doubt RRS wants us to fail….he is just critical on Hue. Fair enough but maybe a new positive vibe on him would be a tad bit nicer after all the offensive came alive last season
July 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
“If Hue does not finish better than 8-8 he is NOT better than Cable.
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Really? Cable was 4-8 first season as HC, and 5-11 first full season.”
do I really need to spell it out for you like a 3 year old…..ok Cable inherited a 1-15 team and improved them each year.
Hue Jackson inherits a 8-8 team….his job is to improve the team.
Duh
July 20th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
So you wanted your team to fail because they didn’t chose the guy you wanted?
And you call yourself a fan?
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Really?
SMH
July 20th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Sorry my numbers were wrong not 1-15 but 4-12
July 20th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
“Cable took moldy bread and raw bacon and made the best BLT you’ve ever tasted when it comes to running the football.
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Wait, who was the Raiders Offensive Line Coach in 2010?
Hint: It wasn’t Tom Cable…
July 20th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
J Hill admit it each time we get a new HC we all have high hopes for improvement.
Just admit it stop being so stubborn. Unless you want the team to fail, you hope that each new HC we bring in will be an improvement over the last one.
So how can you say that you expected Cable to fail as a fan. Seriously how can you say that?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
bauce I have to say that RRS is right again.
You are not going to win that one throw up the white flag dude.
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Well how so? How can you not give Hue his credit for the offense last season? And how are you against him being promoted? Who else was gonna coach the 2011 Raiders? Be realistic on this.
Its already proven that Stephen Davis still played well under Hue. There is no disputing this. He played injury free in 2001 and had a very good numbers. He did the same but was injured in 2002.
Tell me in ATL in 2007 what Hue did so wrong with the Falcons. Did you see that mess?
He was OC in Dc but who was running the offense and calling the plays? It wasnt Hue. Steve wont ever have that
July 20th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
BigTed you cant be serious can you?
If I need to explain that to you then you cant call yourself a football fan anymore.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Bauce
For the last time….Just because you are a good OC in this league does not mean you will be a successful HC.
No one else was looking at Hue Jack for a HC job except Al Davis who we all know brought him in to replace Cable a year before Cable was out the door.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
When did I say I wanted Cable to fail?
Please repost that.
I said I was not for him being hired. Thought he should have never made it past the interim year.
Thought he shoulda been fired after going 5-11, but woulda settled for an asst hc/oc hiring.
Miss me with your wanting the team to fail propoganda.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
if he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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No one said anything like that.
Assistant coaches get shots at the HC job all the time. Just ask Pittsburgh.
Al Saunders was brought in to smooth some of the rough edges Hue still has. You know, wildcat plays to the short side of the field with Jacoby Ford at QB, lol.
Hue Jackson + Al Saunders is WAAAYYYYYY better than Cable + Hue.
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Yeah obviously…..Hue already has respect of the players and Saunders brings great stuff to the table as well. I dont know why that is a negative. Also I know Saunders knows how to work with WRs
July 20th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Bauce
For the last time….Just because you are a good OC in this league does not mean you will be a successful HC.
No one else was looking at Hue Jack for a HC job except Al Davis who we all know brought him in to replace Cable a year before Cable was out the door.
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I never said that but to argue like he will surely fail is off as well
Yeah what’s your point on only Al wanted him as head coach? We pretty much know this about Al. Why is that such a negative?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
666
I’m Just sayin’
RRS doesn’t want to give Hue any credit for increased offensive production, and gives Cable all the credit for the O-Line, yet nobody mentions that JIM MICHALCZIK was the Raiders O-Line coach in 2010. Doesn’t he get any credit?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I am a fan and I am blindly optimistic every year because each team starts 0-0.
Every 2 years we replace a HC and each time I support them 100% because this is my team.
Hue must improve this team to be better than 8-8 because that is what he was handed an 8-8 team.
I believe he will do it, but I am not ready to crown him yet.
That’s it end of argument!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
# Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I am a fan and I am blindly optimistic every year because each team starts 0-0.
Every 2 years we replace a HC and each time I support them 100% because this is my team.
Hue must improve this team to be better than 8-8 because that is what he was handed an 8-8 team.
I believe he will do it, but I am not ready to crown him yet.
That’s it end of argument!
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Right on, well said.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
What’s the alternative RRS and 666? Not be positive about Hue and this year’s team? Cable already stunk so we upgraded. Cable was a complete idiot
July 20th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
No one else was looking at Mike Tomlin when he was hired.
So basically you and RRS are saying that we should’ve went after a guy like Harbaugh instead of Hue?
Who else was looking at Frazier other than Minnesota?
Who did the Titans hire? I really can’t remember.
I just don’t see how hiring Hue Jackson could be called absurd or a bad move.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
I am a fan and I am blindly optimistic every year because each team starts 0-0.
Every 2 years we replace a HC and each time I support them 100% because this is my team.
Hue must improve this team to be better than 8-8 because that is what he was handed an 8-8 team.
I believe he will do it, but I am not ready to crown him yet.
That’s it end of argument!
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Well I’m on record saying he has to win now….many times. This season must be a playoff one. I told Mistic the other day to ease up on naming hue as one of the best. Nonetheless I believe in Hue
July 20th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
No one else was looking at Mike Tomlin when he was hired.
So basically you and RRS are saying that we should’ve went after a guy like Harbaugh instead of Hue?
Who else was looking at Frazier other than Minnesota?
Who did the Titans hire? I really can’t remember.
I just don’t see how hiring Hue Jackson could be called absurd or a bad move.
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Exactly
July 20th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
“Why is that such a negative?”
Its not a negative I was explaining RRS point and maybe I should have stayed out of it.
Bauce I respect your opinion in here more than most and I am in no way trying to start shhh with you.
BigTed
You are correct Hue gets a ton of credit for the increased offensive output last year no doubt about it and that is why he was promoted to HC.
But lets give Cable a little credit for helping create a #2 rushing attack with a scrub O-Line.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Herm Edwards coached two different franchises to the playoffs….never had head coaching or coordinating experience before hand and made playoffs his first two years with Jets and first year with Chiefs…..being a lil too hard on Hue arent we?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
“Why is that such a negative?”
Its not a negative I was explaining RRS point and maybe I should have stayed out of it.
Bauce I respect your opinion in here more than most and I am in no way trying to start shhh with you.
BigTed
You are correct Hue gets a ton of credit for the increased offensive output last year no doubt about it and that is why he was promoted to HC.
But lets give Cable a little credit for helping create a #2 rushing attack with a scrub O-Line.
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Aint no issue 666…I think we on same wavelength…we just debating and bouncing thoughts….,RRS and you are real Raiders. I respect yall view as well. I understand RRS point as well. He doesnt wanna get too cocky right now and thats understandable
July 20th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
J hill
“I just don’t see how hiring Hue Jackson could be called absurd or a bad move.”
Its not a bad move or an absurd move, it makes sense if you ask me.
The sad part is that Hue may have been the only qualified candidate who would take the job because of the Kiffin Fiasco. Not many coaches are going think this job is a good one after Al refused to pay Kiffen.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Bauce I respect your opinion in here more than most and I am in no way trying to start shhh with you.
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Lmao, coward.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Hue is gonna have to prove himself. JC will have to prove he is a real live starting QB. DMAC has to be healthy and have a 1400-1500 yard 10 plus TD campaign. Some WR has to step all the way up.
The defense has to stop big plays and be consistent.
No doubt 666 and RRS….cats are in their make or break campaigns I know it for sure
July 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Bauce I respect your opinion in here more than most and I am in no way trying to start shhh with you.
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Lmao, coward.
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What is your issue? 666 is a logical guy and I dont wanna start shhh with him as well…we just talking Raider stuff and this season…. not bringing others down like you do!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Lmao, coward.
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LOL!
Ya, show us how a real man goes about his business Kell.
LOL!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Kell just be quiet old man….sit back and chill….enjoy your last few years on this earth better. You have lived more than half of your life so keep it on down buddy
July 20th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RaiderLen Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Lmao, coward.
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LOL!
Ya, show us how a real man goes about his business Kell.
LOL!
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Whodini act
July 20th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/ap-no-player-vote-wednesday/
Tremendous
July 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
You see guys the difference is that I come in here for fun and debate like most of you.
KK comes in here to get negative attention because that is probably the only kind he can get.
Most of us in here are man enough to look at each others point of view and handle a spirited debate.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
“Well, the head coach is going to be first and foremost,” Burress said. “It’s going to be somebody to where, well, you know, he has an open door policy, I can walk in his office and sit down and talk to him whether it’s about football or life or whatever that may be. Then, of course, second, it’s going to be a quarterback. I’m a wide receiver. I mean, that’s a no brainer. I’m not going to sit here and say it’s not. And surround myself with guys that are hungry and guys that know how to play and want to win. I mean, some guys are just happy to go out, get a check, compete, and don’t care whether they win or lose. Well, I’m not that guy. I mean, I’m a winner. I love to win. You ask the guys that I’ve played with in New York or whether it was in Pittsburgh, there’s nothing more that I hate, there’s nothing more for me than losing. I hate to lose and I’m going to put myself into a situation and put myself into a piece of a puzzle where I’m going to make it complete.”–Plaxico Burress
Interesting
July 20th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
The sad part is that Hue may have been the only qualified candidate who would take the job because of the Kiffin Fiasco.
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I don’t buy that at all.
First, what do you mean by “qualified”?
Davis doesn’t really have a history of hiring guys like Cowher (assuming you meant a HC with a winning resume when you said qualified).
You have punk muhfuhggas like Koolio Kell who would wilt at the challenge of working for an owner like Al Davis.
Then you have guys with a little bit of self confidence like Hue Jackson, Norv Turner, and Jon Gruden (to name a few) who know they can produce and understand that they are just coaches.
This whole Bill Parcels non sense of being able to buy the groceries is laughable. Like Jerry Jones said, I’m the one stuck with these players when the coach is gone in 3 years.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
You see guys the difference is that I come in here for fun and debate like most of you.
KK comes in here to get negative attention because that is probably the only kind he can get.
Most of us in here are man enough to look at each others point of view and handle a spirited debate.
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Yep just all day he wants to hate hate hate. I mean at times I go astray no doubt. Some of it may be over the top but I can at least pipe down for a long period of time and talk good ole Raider football. Kell and the other infamous ones wanna bash bash bash all day long
July 20th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I just want to go on record and say I had no problem with Cable as HC, In fact, I was a huge proponent of the “No Knucklehead Regime”. I wanted to see him stay and keep Hue as OC.
That being said, I’m optimistic about Hue as HC because the players seem to respect him. Not just in pressers, but on the field.
Go Raiders!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dam you folks are picky
Cable turned a dismal team around and got us to 8-8.
He would not have done that if Hue had not come in and rescued DMAC. Cable is history, God bless him but Hue is the coach of the Oakland Raiders and Al is the owner. Hue is gonna get us to the promised land
Best year ever!!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Kell….you bring this blog down all the time. You do it on purpose. Many want the lockout to be over with and are pumped for 2011. The commentary on here has been relatively more positive since Russell was dumped. Why dont you get on board? Its sickening man
July 20th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Plunketthead Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dam you folks are picky
Cable turned a dismal team around and got us to 8-8.
He would not have done that if Hue had not come in and rescued DMAC. Cable is history, God bless him but Hue is the coach of the Oakland Raiders and Al is the owner. Hue is gonna get us to the promised land
Best year ever!!
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Hell yes I think I know what you are saying
July 20th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
KK and MR have been chasing people away from here for over 4 years, preaching negativity 24/7/365.
I would rather go into the season with high hopes and at least get some enjoyment out of my team.
but thats just my old stoned way
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
J Hill
When an owner fires a HC and then refuses to pay him it makes working there a little less attractive to some candidates.
So the talent pool for us was shrinking is all I was trying to point out.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I’m like the Piers Morgan of this blog.
I speak the truth and I get boo’d for it …
July 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Plunketthead Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
KK and MR have been chasing people away from here for over 4 years, preaching negativity 24/7/365.
I would rather go into the season with high hopes and at least get some enjoyment out of my team.
but thats just my old stoned way
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That goes for many Plunk….its just said going thru archives you see how majority of their posts are negative filled
Kell doubts 90 pct of that blog wishes he never posted again lol
July 20th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
“At this point, approval of the CBA should be a no brainer for the union.”
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These media outlets are just trying to make this more dramatic than it is.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I’m like the Piers Morgan of this blog.
I speak the truth and I get boo’d for it …
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Aw bruh I aint booing ya lol. I agree with ya on most points but Hue cant be seen as a negative can he?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Hue is the coach of the Oakland Raiders and Al is the owner. Hue is gonna get us to the promised land
Best year ever!!”
I feel you man, that is what I want!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
J Hill
When an owner fires a HC and then refuses to pay him it makes working there a little less attractive to some candidates.
So the talent pool for us was shrinking is all I was trying to point out.
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Hey known of us are in denial about Al’s mgmt style is very different from most. That has a good and bad affect ya dig….been bad lately
July 20th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I’m like the Piers Morgan of this blog.
I speak the truth and I get boo’d for it …
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LOL – BOO!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“Hue is the coach of the Oakland Raiders and Al is the owner. Hue is gonna get us to the promised land
Best year ever!!”
I feel you man, that is what I want!!!
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Bootlicker
July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I’m like the Piers Morgan of this blog.
I speak the truth and I get boo’d for it …
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Truth is a funny word. One Man’s “Truth” is another’s blasphemy.
Perspective / Opinion are what you offer, and I respect that.
Keep it coming.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RRS doesn’t want to give Hue any credit for increased offensive production, and gives Cable all the credit for the O-Line, yet nobody mentions that JIM MICHALCZIK was the Raiders O-Line coach in 2010. Doesn’t he get any credit?
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Ted,
Jim M. was Cable’s buddy from Cal. He hand-picked him to run the zbs so that he could be more hands on with other areas of them team and not have to wear so many hats
There were many times when Mich would stand off to the side and Cable would be coaching up this unit, according to Jerry Mac. So does JM get some credit? sure – but it was still Cable’s line
Does Hue Jax get credit for his good play calling as well as the bad? Sure – but it was Al that brought the talent to town and it was Al that took the trash out, too
July 20th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RRS doesn’t want to give Hue any credit for increased offensive production, and gives Cable all the credit for the O-Line, yet nobody mentions that JIM MICHALCZIK was the Raiders O-Line coach in 2010. Doesn’t he get any credit?
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Ted,
Jim M. was Cable’s buddy from Cal. He hand-picked him to run the zbs so that he could be more hands on with other areas of them team and not have to wear so many hats
There were many times when Mich would stand off to the side and Cable would be coaching up this unit, according to Jerry Mac. So does JM get some credit? sure – but it was still Cable’s line
Does Hue Jax get credit for his good play calling as well as the bad? Sure – but it was Al that brought the talent to town and it was Al that took the trash out, too
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I mean we already seen Hue bow down and give Al his respect as COACH DAVIS……man RRS he is giving props right there. I think you of all people should love that! Hue knows his place….great!
July 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
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Is that what you want?
July 20th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Ted,
Jim M. was Cable’s buddy from Cal. He hand-picked him to run the zbs so that he could be more hands on with other areas of them team and not have to wear so many hats
There were many times when Mich would stand off to the side and Cable would be coaching up this unit, according to Jerry Mac. So does JM get some credit? sure – but it was still Cable’s line
Does Hue Jax get credit for his good play calling as well as the bad? Sure – but it was Al that brought the talent to town and it was Al that took the trash out, too
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Right on. Can’t disagree with yer’ logic here.
July 20th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/20/trying-to-explain-the-delay-in-player-vote/
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July 20th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
So Al brought the talent to town and dumped all the garbage …
Hue Jackson brought the play calling …
What is it that you guys think Cable had control of?
I say he had control of the starting units and who was inactive.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Hue cant be seen as a negative can he?
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Bauce,
I don’t think Hue was qualified for the HC job. I’m not upset that he was hired for OC in Oakland. His play calling was just ok for me. He’s on par with Kiffin or Knapp as a play-caller in my book. probably better than Cable, Tollner or Hackett in that regard.
But a good OC doesn’t always make a good HC. and I’m not even really to call Hue a “good” OC. another year with the same offensive crew would be helpful for evaluation purposes
July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Bauce if you call me bootlicker one ore time I am going to blow a gasket and cry all the way home. Then when I get home I will have to take my Lithium pills to calm down and hug my teddy bear for comfort!
Is that what you want?
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Aside from being a bootlicker you’re now a bearlicker? Coward! Nevermind you I got a big brokers seminar to go to in Brussels. I’m taking the Concorde there
July 20th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I can bring KK out from under his rock watch:
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Water boarding is fine with me and what eventually brought OBL down.
Down with the Democratic party!!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Hue cant be seen as a negative can he?
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Bauce,
I don’t think Hue was qualified for the HC job. I’m not upset that he was hired for OC in Oakland. His play calling was just ok for me. He’s on par with Kiffin or Knapp as a play-caller in my book. probably better than Cable, Tollner or Hackett in that regard.
But a good OC doesn’t always make a good HC. and I’m not even really to call Hue a “good” OC. another year with the same offensive crew would be helpful for evaluation purposes
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Well since Callahan we havent made best choices for HC. Who else were you gonna get to be head coach in Oakland? Who was the best option for 2011?
Totally disagree with you about Knapp and Kiffin on par with Hue. TDs were scored more with Hue
I believe bringing Saunders will help aid alot of stuff
July 20th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
…and I’m not even really to call Hue a “good” OC.
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26.5 points per game in 2010.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
” Nevermind you I got a big brokers seminar to go to in Brussels. I’m taking the Concorde there”
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See you at the caviar bar in Brussels!!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Silverandblack666 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
” Nevermind you I got a big brokers seminar to go to in Brussels. I’m taking the Concorde there”
How did you get on the Concorde? I am stuck here in first class on a 777 with the other losers.
See you at the caviar bar in Brussels!!
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July 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
I would bet Tom spent more time last year with the Oline then before, after Al limited his head coach duties
July 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Having a HEALTHY McFadden helped HJ.Finding a playmaker like J.Ford helped HJ.Reese becoming an offensive threat helped HJ.Not having headaches like J.Walker,getting rid of J.Fargus-they all contributed to the success HJ had as OC last year.Even JC’s play later in the year helped.The big question is were these and other things responsible for our offense improving so much last year or was it due to HJ.We shall see.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
But a good OC doesn’t always make a good HC.
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That’s for sure, look at Norv.
Hue has demonstrated passion for the Players and the Organization. He has influenced Pro-Bowl Caliber WRs and QBs. He has proven that he can scheme against the AFC West – And, most importantly, has the Al Davis seal of approval.
Under the circumstances – he’s a better candidate than I would have imagined 3-4 years ago.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
It was all of those thing, Lefty.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
If the offense is even better this year,will credit go to HJ or the OC-Sanders since it seems almost everyone gives all the credit to HJ last year and none to the HC?
July 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Hue has demonstrated passion for the Players and the Organization. He has influenced Pro-Bowl Caliber WRs and QBs. He has proven that he can scheme against the AFC West – And, most importantly, has the Al Davis seal of approval.
Under the circumstances – he’s a better candidate than I would have imagined 3-4 years ago.
Nice take!!!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
If the offense is even better this year,will credit go to HJ or the OC-Sanders
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Credit the Wiz!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Speaking of healthy, I really hope we have some luck with this this season.
Chaz, Henderson, our #2 CB, Bush.
I think we have some good depth at all those positions except a backup for Henderson.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Lefty,
Apples to Oranges since Saunders isn’t calling the plays.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
J-we know injuries will happen.All we can hope for is we don’t get a rash of serious ones.It’s a fact that teams that make it thru the year the healthiest usually have the most success.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Has that been established?
July 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Yeah, Hue said in his PC that he will call the plays.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Having a HEALTHY McFadden helped HJ.Finding a playmaker like J.Ford helped HJ.Reese becoming an offensive threat helped HJ.Not having headaches like J.Walker,getting rid of J.Fargus-they all contributed to the success HJ had as OC last year.Even JC’s play later in the year helped.The big question is were these and other things responsible for our offense improving so much last year or was it due to HJ.We shall see.
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That’s fair. Other people have their part in this as well but Hue actively taking on this opportunity is great. I truly believe those players respect that cat
July 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
With that said, I don’t think the HC should be calling the plays.
Should be the OC and DC.
Trust your people!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
To me the big question is who will be the other OLB-Goethel or Groves.We know Groves can’t play the run at all and that Goethel was being penciled in as the starter before being injured last year.It seems he was drafted too high to just be a back-up for McClain.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Speaking of healthy, I really hope we have some luck with this this season.
Chaz, Henderson, our #2 CB, Bush.
I think we have some good depth at all those positions except a backup for Henderson.
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I mean I wouldnt complain about shiznit if those 3 are all 100 pct……especially Chaz. But can this hold true?
July 20th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Speaking of healthy, I really hope we have some luck with this this season.
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At least we won’t have to worry about Gallery’s injured ass this year.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
With that said, I don’t think the HC should be calling the plays.
Should be the OC and DC.
Trust your people!
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You think Sean Payton wasnt calling plays in 2009? What about Gruden when he was here? Point is there are a number of offensive x’s and o’s coaches that will call the plays if their the HC.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Gallery was awful. HE is the 2nd worse Raider draft pick ever behind Russell.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Might be a FA, Lefty.
Groves and Goethel could end up being just depth since Howard is a FA and Scott is recovering from a serious injury.
Going to be a lot of FAs on the market with teams cutting players to get under that cap.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
With that said, I don’t think the HC should be calling the plays.
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Should be the QB and the MLB…
Old School!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
J-I agree.OCs should call the plays.The HC can always over-rule them if they feel it is necessary.HCs have other responsibilities they need to focus on during the game.Too many HC’s want to wear too many hats.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
To me the big question is who will be the other OLB-Goethel or Groves.We know Groves can’t play the run at all and that Goethel was being penciled in as the starter before being injured last year.It seems he was drafted too high to just be a back-up for McClain.
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I think we lose some speed and coverage with a lineup of Goethel-McClain-Wimbley but I believe we got a better shot at stopping the run and bigger more physical.
Goethel is a smart tough player and can tackle. I say give him every chance to beat out Groves.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I believe Goethel is the forgotten man by most fans,especially on this blog.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
If the offense is even better this year,will credit go to HJ or the OC-Sanders since it seems almost everyone gives all the credit to HJ last year and none to the HC?
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Saunders is coming in to help Hue run his offense. Hue didnt run cables offense last year. Hue came in to install his own offense and improve the 29th ranked scoring team in football. What Hue did last year is find ways for our playmakers to make plays. I cant believe how little credit the guy gets for LITERALLY doubling our scoring output!
July 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
I realize that, B.
Just saying I prefer a HC that delegates those duties.
There is a lot going on on the sidelines, and it takes a lot of attention and concentration to call plays.
Again, not saying it’s wrong(am I cowering Koolio?), just saying I prefer the Mike Tomlin types.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Well Leftster…my good ole uddy….I believe the respect level that Hue will have for Saunders suggestions a full on autonomy with the calls. These two understand offense extremely well
July 20th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Lefty how just wonder how Goethel can play covering a RB out the backfield
July 20th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Actually HJ ran the more traditional Raider offense of the past last year,just as Cable did the year before,albeit more effectively.The offense we saw last year was the same one ran in the 70s and 80s-power running,take your shots through the air.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
I realize that, B.
Just saying I prefer a HC that delegates those duties.
There is a lot going on on the sidelines, and it takes a lot of attention and concentration to call plays.
Again, not saying it’s wrong(am I cowering Koolio?), just saying I prefer the Mike Tomlin types.
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Al Saunders understands how to beat any type of defensive scheme. I believe our game planning will be nice by October given we are healthy
July 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Goethel was drafted in the 6th round… thats not too high just to be McClains backup.
I agree we need an upgrade over Groves. I would love to bring Takeo Spikes in. He may be a liability in coverage (so is Groves though) but he would DEFINITELY improve our run defense. Patrick Willis gives Spikes tons of credit for helping him be so strong against the run, and I think he could really help Rolando too.
I havent seen much film of Goethel so i honestly dont know why some in here are so high on him. Not a knock on anyone, I honestly dont know, because I havent seen him play
July 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Actually HJ ran the more traditional Raider offense of the past last year,just as Cable did the year before,albeit more effectively.The offense we saw last year was the same one ran in the 70s and 80s-power running,take your shots through the air.
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Yeah this is very true
July 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
1646.BigTed707 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
J Hill Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Speaking of healthy, I really hope we have some luck with this this season.
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At least we won’t have to worry about Gallery’s injured ass this year.
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Or his gawd damn penalties.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
B,that is what we need answered.If he is effective at that,with his run stopping ability,he could be the answer.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Actually HJ ran the more traditional Raider offense of the past last year,just as Cable did the year before,albeit more effectively.The offense we saw last year was the same one ran in the 70s and 80s-power running,take your shots through the air.
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Ok. I wont argue that point. But Hue found ways to maximize the abilities of playmakers. How many fullbacks in NFL history have 70 yard td receptions? How often do WRs have 80 yard rushing tds. Hue identified the abilities of these players and got them the ball in situations that allowed them to shine.
Im Hue Jacksoned out. Bottom line, he is an upgrade over Cable at HC no matter how you cut it in my opinion and I will leave it at that.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Goethel a 6th rounder.I thought he was drafted higher.Oh well,we all know where you are drafted doesn’t always mean a thing.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
1648.Bauce Rules Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Gallery was awful. HE is the 2nd worse Raider draft pick ever behind Russell.
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Gotta say he was one of the most disappointing ever. I had no expectations with DHB….he wasn’t great in college so why expect anything of him in the NFL?
Patrick Bates pizzes me off too, but I don’t think he was nearly as high of a pick.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
1653.lefty12 Says:
July 20th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
I believe Goethel is the forgotten man by most fans,especially on this blog.
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Didn’t know much about him until he started getting hyped up on this blog right before the start of last season.
Funny thing is the play that a lot of his supporters gave him crdit for in that SF game, Sam Williams actaully made the play. Goethel didn’t even see much time other than STs.
Obviously the coaches see something in the kid as he did get some of Groves playing time once he got healty. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was the starter at WLB.
I still say T Howard was BY FAR our best WLB last preseason.
July 20th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Bcz….he can tackle is the size of a prototypical outside linebacker…i say give it a shot
July 20th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Yeah I remember the hype when we drafted Gallery… the talking heads talked like this guy was the best left tackle to ever play the game. I certainly didnt know the game like I do now so I bought it. I was WAY more disappointed in Gallery than Russell (because I never wanted him to begin with).
July 20th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
HJ was a definite improvement over TC as an OC(play caller).It has yet to be determined if he will be a better HC,although the odds are strongly in his favor.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
One of my beefs with Cable is him moving Gallery to OG.
Gallery should have gotten a pass on the Shell season. He was a pretty decent RT before he got hurt, so at worst move him back to RT.
July 20th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
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July 20th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Thing about Hue is it wasnt just the offense that improved, but also the situational play calling. He used plays that put the ball in the hands of the correct player. For example, every play to Reese was a called play. Even the amount of checkdowns was created as a safety lever if WRs didnt get open.
July 21st, 2011 at 5:44 am
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