Raiders on verge of reporting to training camp
By Steve Corkran
Sunday, July 24th, 2011 at 11:01 am in 2011 Preseason, Oakland Raiders.
Several news outlets reported that the NFL owners and players have reached accord on all the major points in bargaining for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and that ratification by the players is a formality.
The owners approved the new deal Wednesday. The players delayed the vote so that they could take some time to scour over the deal. Barring a last-second glitch, the players are expected to vote on the proposal Monday.
This means that the Raiders, as well as other teams, should be in training camp by the end of the week, perhaps as soon as Wednesday. Our best guess is, the Raiders will report to Napa on Friday, though there hasn’t been any confirmation.
We will provide the finer details of the timeline for free agency, player signings, training camp and such once they are finalized and announced by the Raiders.
Jerry McDonald and myself will be in Alameda for player reaction to the end of the lockout whenever the players are allowed to show up next week. From there, we will shift operations to Napa, where we will file stories on a daily basis throughout camp.
One of the first things we will seek confirmation on is the status of running back Michael Bush, who has been in the league for four years but played only the past three.
Bush’s agent has said that he is under the impression that Bush’s rookie season won’t count as an accrued season, which would make Bush a restricted free agent.
That bodes well for the Raiders because they could tender Bush a one-year tender for a modest amount and have the right to match any offers from other teams. It also prevents the Raiders from having to break the bank for Bush and tight end Zach Miller in a year in which the Raiders are without much salary cap room.
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July 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Raider NATION…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Bauce!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:05 am
577.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Thec….in college we knew the Alpha cats were funnyle if you know what I mean. MLK is no different
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Not sure if you remeber me asking you if you were in a frat.
MLK <——-Boule member, 5% controller of the the" so called" blacks…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:06 am
We’re keeping Bush! He cant be let go!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Thec I was in a frat had the sweater and all…..GDI….thats my family….you know what GDI is? GOD DAMN INDIVIDUAL……..hell naw I wasnt a frat guy….but i did go to their parties and take their bzies
July 24th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Lol Thec….Kell dont think he was a hustlin ass preacher and that he wasnt a Marxist eventho facts show its true
July 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
….in college we knew the Alpha cats were funnyle if you know what I mean.
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That’s Northridge for ya, lol.
Started back in like 85 or so when this NOTORIOUS ph###g##gguutttt got in. Dude showed up to the square one day in Dolphin shorts and a effin poodle mayne. I sh####tte you not. Was all downhill for their rep from there.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Oh yeah and MR…..if u out there i want you to read this loud and clear…….FK ROSA PARKS! Its a new day and we aint fooled by that staged event of hers. If they got a name you know the deal
July 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Jhill lol thats Sierra Hall now…I know exactly what you are referring to. Northridge is even worse now. I wont step back on that campus ever again
July 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am
MR <——-Wants to be the 2011 version fo Jim Brown…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
8.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Oh yeah and MR…..if u out there i want you to read this loud and clear…….FK ROSA PARKS! Its a new day and we aint fooled by that staged event of hers. If they got a name you know the deal
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Truth…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
…….FK ROSA PARKS! Its a new day and we aint fooled by that staged event of hers.
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Wow!
Too funny.
How would you have done it?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
MR <—— want to help free the slaves…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
It’s too damn early in the day to start that crap,B.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Lol lefty
July 24th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Instead of telling us the truth the fake leadership fed us with a bunch of BS that kept them in control…
NAACP was founded by who??? Who put the money up and why?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Jhill….thats another conversation that cant be said on this blog
July 24th, 2011 at 11:19 am
14.lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
It’s too damn early in the day to start that crap,B.
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ROFL….
July 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am
14.lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am
It’s too damn early in the day to start that crap,B.
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LOL!
There is a lot of football we can talk now that this BS lockout is essentially over.
Can not tell you how excited I am for football to be on the horizon!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am
MR<——white Malcolm X….takin it to the "man"
July 24th, 2011 at 11:21 am
NAACP was founded by who??? Who put the money up and why?
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Illuminati????
July 24th, 2011 at 11:21 am
hahahahahaha…..
July 24th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Yeah leftster is in here so I wont mind resuming football talk…..lockout we hope is over Jhill lol
July 24th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Jhill ask Kell….he sure seems to know
July 24th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Bloodline money, same folks that invented the feminist..
July 24th, 2011 at 11:24 am
“The owners had not voted to accept a negotiated, collectively bargained agreement. They were doing little more than voting to approve their own deal. Neither the NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith, nor NFLPA President Kevin Mawae, nor any of the player reps had even seen the agreement the owners voted upon. It reportedly includes a series of provisions that hadn’t been discussed or bargained. It was a power play aimed at using the deadline for a settlement to get their wish-list on the player’s backs. Eric Cantor would have been proud.
Mike Silver of yahoo sports wrote that the owners were doing little more than “….daring the players to swallow terms that have not yet been negotiated.” Washington’s player rep Vonnie Holiday tweeted, “Look guys I have no reason to lie! The truth of the matter is we got tricked duped, led astray, hoodwinked, bamboozled!”
Meanwhile, the official sports media turned up the heat, clamoring for the NFLPA to just vote on what the owners approved and get back to work. Sports Illustrated’s Don Banks said that the owners should do their own “Let Us Play” commercial (thankfully Banks doesn’t work in advertising, since, owners don’t actually…. You know…. Play.) Green Bay Packers player rep and Super Bowl hero Aaron Rodgers tweeted, “Media spin on owners position in this lockout is ridiculous. Believe my colleagues tweets tonight about the events of the last 24 hours.” ”
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-07-23-637/index.html
July 24th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Jhill im excited becuz NCAA and NFL make my weeekends in tthe fall/winter. I plan to hit vegas up a few times and run them parlays.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Hey cockran, before you posted you should have read the article that Bigted broguh to light from the last post….
Without some of these Semi Pro bloggers cockran you would be out of a job…They are more on top of it than you…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Thec as well as planned parenthood…war on drugs and all stuff that has us regulars lost in the shuffle
July 24th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Corkran…..steve is pretty cool tho. He will answer emails and talk football. Jerry is a punk
July 24th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Go Raiders! (1-0)
July 24th, 2011 at 11:29 am
29.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Thec as well as planned parenthood…war on drugs and all stuff that has us regulars lost in the shuffle
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An endless list of ish thown at the “so calleds”…Not sure how but you guys are still here…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Thec thats why I dug George Carlin…remember what he said…..” its a big club for small group of people and guess what? you and I are not apart of it! no one in this room knows who they aree or know anyone who knows who they are”……..Carlin was no fool
July 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am
“Despite the awesome weight of ownership, media, and personal financial pressure, the players are holding firm to actually reading and discussing this mammoth 10-year labor agreement before signing off and good for them. I fully expect the lockout to end shortly. There is too much money at stake, too much expectation for football to go forward as planned. But after a 132 day lockout, the players have every right to actually understand in full what it is they’re voting upon. The owners would be lucky if the NFLPA doesn’t look at the number of publicly funded stadiums, look at the star-power of their own players and say to the owners, “Why do we need you again?””
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-07-23-637/index.html
July 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Wed.-Sat. should be fun if that is the 3 day period set for signing FAs.Also,because less dead money will be involved could that hinder the movement of some guys?Could it also help keep some prices down?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Carlin <——-Was straight…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Thec im amazed anyone is still alive…..its very sinister and ugly at the top….just look at these lockouts….there is some fishy stuff going on mayne. something is rotten in the cotton
July 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
- BHP’s MUP List -
666 ; DVD – CB
Bauce ; Manase Tonga
BigTed707 ; Big Bruce Campbell – OL
BroCanUspareadime ; Nick Miller – WR
Dakota ; Chaz – WR
Da Trinity ; Wiz II – OL
Deja Vu ; MM34 – S
Doc Gonzo ; Denarius Moore – WR
Dutch ; Richard Gordon – TE
Hwnrdr ; B-Camp – OL
JFB ; Desmond Bryant – DT
Jhill ; DHB – WR
Lefty12 ; DHB – WR
LMN ; Michael Huff – S
Marios ; Barksdale – OT
Meeze ; ROMAC – LB
Priest ; David Ausberry – WR
Purple Drank ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raccoon ; Roy Schuening – OL
RaiderFanFromJersey ; Taiwan Jones – RB
Raiderman99 ; JC’s replacement (Boller?) – QB
RaiderRetribution ; Alex Parsons Project – OL
RaiderRockstar ; CJ37 – CB
RFL ; Stevie Brown – S
Scottish ; Brandon Myers – TE
Severe ; W. McFadden – CB
July 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
BigTed posted a good article on potential raider cap movement under the new CBA quite interesting…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
“This is about those at the top of society who want “socialism” for the rich and an apocalyptic Ayn Randian nightmare for the rest of us. As Troy Polamalu, the All-Pro safety for the Pittsburgh Steelers said,
“I think what the players are fighting for is something bigger. A lot of people think it’s millionaires versus billionaires and that’s the huge argument. The fact is its people fighting against big business. The big business argument is ‘I got the money and I got the power therefore I can tell you what to do.’ That’s life everywhere. I think this is a time when the football players are standing up and saying, ‘No, no, no, the people have the power.””
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-07-23-637/index.html
July 24th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Lefty…..wednesday thru saturday will be hectic…..these beat writers bout to get zero sleep
July 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
“The people have the power” – Troy Polamalu
July 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
37.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Thec im amazed anyone is still alive…..its very sinister and ugly at the top….just look at these lockouts….there is some fishy stuff going on mayne. something is rotten in the cotton
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Mayne since the lockout I was thinking the exact same thing….More than meets the eye on this one not just about continuing to pay the slaves more money….
July 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Never mind.I’ll be back when there are some people here who want to discuss football.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Lol MR IS BEYOND AWFUL
July 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Man Gallego why did you send Sogard home?! Dammit!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Cartoonish…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Lefty…..we are mayne….dont bounce bruh!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am
“Power to the people” – Huey P. Newton
“The people have the power” – Troy Polamalu
What a nice reincarnation of courage.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Thanks for those posts MR – I like hearin’ both sides!
July 24th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Yo Left, I am done…No mas…Lets talk Raiders…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Thec as the main character in my favorite book ever, Stranger in a Strange Land, said……..”I grok”
July 24th, 2011 at 11:38 am
BigTed, thow that cap article up you had posted in the last post…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Thec…..how do u feel about the oline?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Not too many grok…Period
July 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Bauce, that is the one area that frieghtens me the most…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am
MR hahahahahaha
July 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am
No problem, Ted. Out of about a thousand links on google news about the lockout, that was the only one I could find that gave the players a voice.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:40 am
We need to retain some of these vet olinemen, andpick up a vet or 3….Oline is too young, scares me…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Brien, quotes are quotes. This aint me. This is Huey and Troy.
“Power to the people” – Huey Newton
“The people have the power” – Troy Polamalu
July 24th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Holy schit…..u know about the grok?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:42 am
In my mind the biggest Q mark is the oline…
Stopping the run is next…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
61.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Holy schit…..u know about the grok?
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Come on Bauce….We had this conversation mayne…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Thec I want a vet at LG and RG….would love to have Mankins and Lutui cuz it helps Veldheer Wiz and Barksdale
July 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
And Brien, of course you hate Rosa Parks. She stood up to racism. I expected that response from you. I just love it when I get you to show your true colors. The less I have to say about you and the more you reveal, the better.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Here’s how Coach Davis’ can go about pushing the debt into next season:
Darren McFadden:
McFadden is due $7.055 million. So let’s say they take him down to the minimum salary. They’d have to give him roughly $7 million in a signing bonus for him to get the same amount in 2011. Extend that over seven years.
Savings: $6 million
Tommy Kelly:
Kelley is on the books for just over a $7 million cap hit. Almost $2 million are from his signing bonus. His salary is $5.5 million. The Raiders could give him a $5 million bonus and a minimum salary to equal his 2011 number and combine that with the already $2 million bonus cap number.
Savings: $3 million
Richard Seymour:
The Raiders just signed Seymour so this would seem a little odd, but all of his guaranteed money came in the form of salary, and comes with a $15 million salary for 2011. The Raiders could turn that into a signing bonus, sign him for seven years, and give him a minimum salary for 2011.
Savings: $12 million
Kamerion Wimbley:
Wimbley is currently on the franchise tag. That has him on the hook for just over $11 million in 2011. The Raiders could give him a $14 million signing bonus and sign him to a seven year contract.
Savings: $9 million
That is $30 million in savings right there, and there other moves to be made.
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2011/7/19/2282431/a-look-at-how-the-oakland-raiders-can-avoid-salary-cap-issues
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# BigTed707 Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:04 am
The above restructuring scenarios only work if those players want to WIN – with the understanding that they’d be helping Coach Davis sign the rookies and some FAs. It really depends on if the players are in it to win it, or just for the money.
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# lefty12 Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:10 am
BigT-all those guys except Wimbley have cooperated in the past regarding restructuring contracts.See no reason why if asked again they won’t try and help.Dline isn’t our problem when it comes to stopping the run-our LBs are.Wimbley is great at getting after the QB but leaves a lot to be desired playing the run.Groves was almost nonexistent last year.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Forgive me Thec….i burn alot of hippy lettuce and drink much Jose
July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Lol MR you see Thec is with me on that about Rosa Parks….sorry we arent village idiot neggas u are accustomed too. We arent fooled
July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am
67.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Forgive me Thec….i burn alot of hippy lettuce and drink much Jose
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No worries…The real trick is to grok on multiple dimes at the same time…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am
One more time, then I’m outta here for a minute.
“This is about those at the top of society who want “socialism” for the rich and an apocalyptic Ayn Randian nightmare for the rest of us. As Troy Polamalu, the All-Pro safety for the Pittsburgh Steelers said,
“I think what the players are fighting for is something bigger. A lot of people think it’s millionaires versus billionaires and that’s the huge argument. The fact is its people fighting against big business. The big business argument is ‘I got the money and I got the power therefore I can tell you what to do.’ That’s life everywhere. I think this is a time when the football players are standing up and saying, ‘No, no, no, the people have the power.””
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2011-07-23-637/index.html
July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
God Granderson deepp to second deck….aight im turning channel now
July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Can’t believe you ran Lefty off with your conspiracy BS guys.
You guys are worrying about things that are above your pay grade.
Just take comfort in the fact that you guys are some of the few who actually know the “rules of the game”, if you will. Most people are blind to that stuff. You should have no excuse for not being successful at what you do.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Bauce you put it very simply…If you got a name fuk u
July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Brien, it doesn’t surprise me that Thec despises Rosa Parks’ stance against racism, either.
Later.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Lol MR using a quote about socialism at the top….he blindly supports socialism already hahahahahahaha
July 24th, 2011 at 11:49 am
You should have no excuse for not being successful at what you do.
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To be successful in these times you need a sponsor, and you need to be approved. Not just what you know but who you know…In this age “looking” the part will go a long way, sacrifice is the other shoe tha will drop…Case and point, how many non booule black cats are successful???
July 24th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Lol jhill….BS? Callin things for what they are is not BS. The key is to not let ur brain be tricked. Who said it stoppin us from doin what he have to do on the surface level? Thec and I are just sitting back and enjoying the show lol
July 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Jhill….if u waking up everday with your health and strength YOURE SUCCESSFUL
July 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am
74.RAIDER Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Brien, it doesn’t surprise me that Thec despises Rosa Parks’ stance against racism, either.
Later.
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MR, what race and color were the egyptians?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:53 am
BS as in instead of Raider talk, lol!
I’m all for a good who shot JR conversation.
But the lockout is over and you in particular are wrong about DT and the OLine.
We can save illuminati, drake, and the turkey for another blog, lol.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Lol Thec……MR is an afrocentric expert okay. Dont test his knowledge….i mean u seen him in football debates right?
July 24th, 2011 at 11:54 am
We can save illuminati, drake, and the turkey for another blog, lol.
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lol…..On that note I am out gotta go hit some balls
1 NATION
July 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I know Im not in wrong about DTs vs the run….especially when I see it up close…..and oline concerns me….veldherr carlisle wiz campbell barksdale is very very young
July 24th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Lockout aint over
July 24th, 2011 at 11:56 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
July 23rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
Interesting stats on the O-line rankings.
Not as hot on the pass-blocking, 26th ranked, but above-average to top 10 in some run-blocking stats.
#8 in stuffed rankings. #6 in open-field ranking (thank you Satele) and over 50% of our runs were mid/guard.
When the Raiders needed a big run, they ran right behind Cooper Carlisle.
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JFB posted some interesting O-Line stats the other day.
I think the consensus was that CHI had the worst O-Line – in terms of pass protection, yet still made the NFC championship round. Kudos to Cutler on that.
Oakland’s pass protection was not much greater than PIT’s, but they made the SB.
Oakland’s O-line Ranked high in all rushing categories.
July 24th, 2011 at 11:56 am
81.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Lol Thec……MR is an afrocentric expert okay. Dont test his knowledge….i mean u seen him in football debates right?
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ROFLMAO…
He is a cartoon character, reminds me of wylie coyote
July 24th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Aight Thec
July 24th, 2011 at 11:57 am
83.Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I know Im not in wrong about DTs vs the run….especially when I see it up close…..and oline concerns me….veldherr carlisle wiz campbell barksdale is very very young
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Very scary could set us back…We better be active in 3-5 days…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:57 am
LTR NATION…
July 24th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Lol cartoon he reps is My Little Pony
July 24th, 2011 at 11:59 am
I dont like any of our guards….i want some mean brutes
July 24th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
# BigTed707 Says:
July 23rd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Random Predictions: FA Madness Edition
MIN – McNabb
CHI – Braylon Edwards
DET – Johnathan Joseph
PHI – Reggie Bush
SD – Steve Smith (CAR)
ARI – Marc Bulger
PIT – Tiki
SEA – Kolb
STL – Plax
TEN – Hasselbeck
HOU – Nnamdi
OAK – Matt Leinert
NE – Chad Johnson
MIA – Vince Young
July 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Veldheer in yer 2 will be better than he was in year 1. Clear upgrade from last year.
I like Loper to win this spot. I consider him an upgrade over our 2nd biggest bust EVER! Simply because I think he will play 16 games and not have pre snap penalties.
I think this is going to be a wash from a getting better standpoint. I realize that a rookie C will have some growing pains, but Satele HAD to go, imo. Pass blocking was a JOKE!
BEAST Campbell will be the MVP of our line. Savage was terrible, imo, lol!
I like Henderson at RT. Or should I say I like anyone not weighing 380lbs!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I’m hung over like 3 day old pizza.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Doesnt look like we will land Mankins….but lutui at RG would be ideal
July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
[...] Raiders on verge of reporting to training camp Several news outlets reported that the NFL owners and players have reached accord on all the major points in bargaining for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement and that ratification by the players is a formality. The owners approved the new deal We… [...]
July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I think this is a time when the football players are standing up and saying, ‘No, no, no, the people have the power.””
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Yeah sure Troy, now hurry up and go vote on that CBA the owners created without you!!!!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Lol Ted got schitfaced last nite?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Thec,
You in Diego, right?
Might have to meet you in Temecula or something for a round.
Red Hawk, maybe?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Maceo Parker was killing yesterday.
Guy was jamming in the rain at the ABQ Summerfest free concert, and I swear he thought he was still at the Apollo, lol.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Loper will not start unless someone is hurt Jhill. He was signed becuz of his versatility. What arent u getting about this?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
OAK – Matt Leinert
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During this upcoming frenzy, are you really telling me that you think our “prize” will be Matt Lienart?
Puuuke!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Loper is a fringe player
July 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
The wife and I have ditched the Buffalo gig, and are full speed ahead working on the Pats game Oct 2nd.
When do individual tix go on sale?? Everything on stubhub and other sites are waaaaay too marked up.
Gotta buddy that said he can get as many tix in sect 224 for $55, but he is about my least trustworthy friend so not sure about that.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Bauce you are too angry at the wrong people, whether it be Rosa Parks or MLK if they are what you or aomeone else thinks they are. The point is those people went through the same things we all went through and suffered the same indignities. Whether what she did was staged or not. It wasn’t so much staged as it was a part of many plans that took place back then. The point is what she did back then was considered illegal and as a result light was brought to bare and changes took place. Don’t hate her because they used her name she was as sick of that system as everyone else.
WEall know she wasn’t the first person to do that she just happened to get the credit…………so what! If you spent time hastling over what parts of history weren’t exactly documented correctly you’d never have time to much else. Much of what’s in history books is inaccurate. Because the people writing had there own agenda. She’s just another sister tryin’ to get by……………period
July 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Whats up nation, hopefully this lockout is old news by next sunday. I guess all teams are going to hit the ground running when the season starts, kinda expect we’re just gonna sit and watch the big signings and focus on keeping Bush, Miller, and signing a veteran O-lineman.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Does Matt Leinart even have a stronger arm than Gradkowski?
I think it is debatable.
Certainly doesn’t have the stones Bruce has, for better or worse sometimes.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
What arent u getting about this?
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Our rush to resign him and how much dough we coughed up. Was pretty much the exact same amount the team said it wanted to give Gallery.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Jhill….i doubt its Leinart but Al is bout to do something….he is just waiting to lay it all on us
July 24th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Being able to tender Bush would be great news. Slap a 1st and 3rd on him like Routt last year to scare every team off, yet that only cost us about $2.5 million.
But Al can only string that along for one more year, unless he strikes a multiple-year deal with him.
Al wouldn’t franchise our backup RB next offseason would he?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
We dissed gallery on purpose. Never intended to keep him. Loper is for depth and insurance. He can play G and T…..see it now?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I like Henderson at RT. Or should I say I like anyone not weighing 380lbs!
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I agree, Henderson was much better at RT after all of Cables O-Line shuffle shenanigans. But is he a lock for the Raiders to resign? I’d rather grab a proven vet like Matt Light to come and mentor the young bucks.
Could Bark or B-Camp start as RT?
As of now, I’d like to see Loper at LG and Coop at RG, but maybe Coach Davis has surprises in store.
Interested to see how this shakes out…
July 24th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Cooper Carlisle is who they are planning to have at LG….last I was told in june
July 24th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Didn’t Jerry say both Barnes and Henderson were offered contracts before the lockout, and they both passed?
Certainly doesn’t mean they won’t come back, but obviously means they would rather not.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
The wife and I have ditched the Buffalo gig, and are full speed ahead working on the Pats game Oct 2nd.
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Pretty sure me and the homie are going up Saturday so we can get a round of golf in. Bring your sticks!
Trying to decide if I wanna play early Sunday before the game, or checkout this legendary tailgating experience Young B is talking about.
Still don’t see the thrill in hanging out in a praking lot, lol! Stepping over all that broken glass I keep hearing about.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Cooper Carlisle & Jared Veldheer = 2011 Pro Bowl alternates
Print that!!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
veldheer-loper-wiz-carlisle-bark
July 24th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Maceo Parker was killing yesterday.
Guy was jamming in the rain at the ABQ Summerfest free concert, and I swear he thought he was still at the Apollo, lol.
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I saw his band at the Maritime Hall in SF like 10 years ago. They tore that mutha’ up for like 6 hours straight!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Will have the sticks.
Got the hookup at San Ramon Royal Vista and will probably play there if so.
Not the greatest course, but I don’t feel like hacking at a nice course on a vaca, or going to the valley and playing in 35 mph winds.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Lol Loper as your game 1 starter would be proof we know we not winning this season
July 24th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Well off to weekly Sunday dinner with the in-laws.
Otherwise known as the weekly kick in the groin.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
We have enough talent at Oline to get a pretty good line together the issue is cohesion. I don’t doubt that we will add players but my point is we aren’t far off from havin g a very decent Oline. I think we may have one of the better Dlines in the game. In fact I really like the netire front7 my only reservation is on our ability to make plays at WR we I see that I’ll know we’re ready to compete.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
see it now?
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Not really.
Loper at LG makes more sense than Carlisle. If Carlisle is not good enough to keep BEAT Campbell out of the starting lineup at his NATURAL POSITION, he might get cut.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Jhill….the lot is the schit…..keepin it so LIT, brew and liq game plus dope ass food. Its a great way to get amped before walking into the Holy Sanctuary
July 24th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I wouldn’t mind seeing Henderson at OG if not RT I just think he’s a better player than some do.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
They shouldn’t move Coop to LG, guy’s been a steady presence at RG, plus if the rook starts, he’ll be needed there badly. Loper did a good job of making me forget about Gallery last yr. in his starts. I see him doing the same this yr.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
I agree with Priest that WR is my #1 concern.
DHB, Shallens, and Murphy are ALL question marks, imo.
I feel the best about Ford and Moore.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Jhill…the demands of a RG is different than that of a LG. They like Coop next to Veldheer becuz leftside will kill in run game. RG gotta deal with the UT AND carlisle physically cant do it in power scheme
July 24th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Tailgating is glorious!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I dont like coop or campbell as my guards…..i hope they ditch the plan and cut cooper and just sit campbell for life
July 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
If Carlisle moves over, then you definitely sign a vet RG. Rookie center- RG -Rookie RT
July 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
the lot is the schit…..keepin it so LIT, brew and liq game plus dope ass food.
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Shoulda hooked up with you 10 years ago.
I ride in the slow lane a bit more these days when out in public. Need to keep my head on straight, ay know.
Not trying to be too lit, lol!
I will have some of that tree on me we been talking about for a few years now, lol. I’ll have a nice sack for you my man!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Raideredout is correct…..tailgating is dope. You see pppl partyin it up hell even inviting you to jump in there tailgates or shoot ya a brew….hell even ask if u wanna burn sumthin…..its great
July 24th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
and just sit campbell for life
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OG is not like playing QB.
How you can write a physical specimen off like that is beyond me. Can we see him on the field a bit more first?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Jhill well u are a grown man….u do what ya do….as for me Im super dumb faded out there…..drinkin like a fish mouth like a funnel
July 24th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Jhill i just think dude is a scrub….seen him in college and just an avg player
July 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I’m not sayin’ Leinert is a great pick-up, I just think he fits Coach Davis’ MO.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Jhill no lie….me and Bob are fools with it….Thats Pats game u roll to will be liver than MacGuyver ya feel me?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Already starting to feel that sunday football feeling baby!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Davis prolly may get Leinart…he reminded him of Snake
July 24th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Raideredout is correct…..tailgating is dope. You see pppl partyin it up hell even inviting you to jump in there tailgates or shoot ya a brew….hell even ask if u wanna burn sumthin…..its great
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True, The coliseum gets a bad rap, but if you show up in your Silver and Black, you’ll see nothing but love.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RaideredoutLA…..i know u can feel it down in SoCal. My dad stays in Gardena now and tells me Raider cats down there pumped for it
July 24th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
ROG –
You don’t like Coop, B-Camp, or Loper? Wow, I hope they prove you wrong!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
BigTed…..its like a big family reunion on Sundays and when we win ppl are huggin, high fivin and sippin more brews to celebrate
July 24th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
BigTed…..its like a big family reunion on Sundays and when we win ppl are huggin, high fivin and sippin more brews to celebrate
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CAN’T WAIT!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Well BigTeddy P…..im concerned cuz we going full on power scheme. Still think regardless we will move the ball and score. Im greedy I want a deep playoff run
July 24th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Lets get the ball rolling. I am as excited as ever to get this season going. The last few years have been pretty good where personell is concerned. If you look at our roster top to bottom, we are a young, talented and dangerous team. This year’s additions on offense will be contributors right away. That kid Moore has hands and knows how to make a play on the ball. Taiwan Jones may be the sleeper like Ford was last year. That kid just makes plays. In 2011, we will be in the playoffs! It has been a long time coming Nation but we are back!!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Blunts, Beers, and Brats!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Right on Jmeds….im pumped as well…just hope no new bullschit is created on monday from the players
July 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
BigTed-I said the same thing months ago-it is a signing i could definitely see happening.It surprises me that so many talk about the WR especially since we are more of a power running team and our wide-outs aren’t as important as an Indy or NE team who lives by the pass yet the CBs are barely mentioned.The CB opposite Routt is wide open with a bunch of young,talented, unproven guys and CJ37 who I feel will probably be a cap casualty.It should be interesting to see which one steps up and grabs the job or will someone else be brought in.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
I just want everyone to do their part if we can get just that done we’ll go to the playoffs. We gotta get some bigtime play from the WR unit. They can’t just be out there running empty routes drawing defenders they have to make defenses honor everything they do by making huge plays. If we can get DC’s to focus more on the WR’s the running game will dominate this league.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Raider Nation rolls deep down here. You trip out if you ever go to the La Mirada Swapmeet off the 5fwy, it feels like if you’re at a game. Raider fans and gear up the ying yang.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Lol Ted where do u normally tailgate at?
July 24th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RaideredoutLA….WHEN I LIVED IN LA…. sometimes I hit up Hooters in Burbank or if I was seeing my pops Id go to Cirivello’s in long beach. Lot of raider cats talkin major schit
July 24th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Our turn around starts on the offensive side of the Ball. Hue Jackson understands today’s game and will utilize his players abilities, not try and make them fit a scheme. What he did last year was great to watch. That was the best play calling I have seen since the Gruden days. The play calling can help out the o-line. We are going to be fine.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
LOL!
Well wifey is kinda insisting on going too, and of course the youngsters.
Looks like I am going to just make it a whole weekend.
Drive up Friday night to SF, hang out at Fisherman’s warf on Saturday, or something like that. Head to Oaktown Saturday night. Up early for some golf Sunday mng before the game, head to the stadium about noon.
Might need JFB’s wife to run some interference for me Sunday mng, lol!
July 24th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
It was much better than any play calling done by Chuckie,but it was still inconsistent.Hope it is a lot better this year.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Been living in the San Gabriel Valley past couple years, major Raider fans out here too, pizza bars jammed packed on gamedays.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Raider fans are soooo deep out in So Cal.
I just don’t see how you don’t think we’d pack a dope arssenew stadium downtown.
I can tell you now that I would have minimal interest in going to see the Raiders play at the LA coliseum. That place is a POS!
But a new stadium downtown? I’d at least be at half the games every year.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Jhill,stay on the East side of the bay.Take the ferry from JL square to the wharf.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Glad I got the NFL ticket nowadays cuz it gets real bad at them pizza places, been through some scht there.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
just an avg player
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I’ll take a young physical beast who is avg. If he is avg now with so little experience, are you really telling me that he will not get better as his experience grows?
I dunno what the outcome will be, but it seems to me that the guy is not a dummie, and obviously has a work ethic by looking at the way he keeps in shape.
I’m excited for his potential.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Driving in the city sucks,especially for out of towners-take public transportation.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
You talking about SF, Lefty?
Thanks for the info.
Was about to get on google and try and plot a route out.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Haven’t gone to a game in years, I’m getting the urge to go this year thinking of those classic tailgates.
July 24th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
J-Camp needs to play with a higher tempo – Hopefully, he will make decisions faster now that he has some experience with the team.
Our Backfield is tops in the league!
The Defense was dominant at times last season – they need be consistent and treat every team like they treated Cassel and Rivers last year.
They gotta’ stop those big runs! Yes the D-line is gonna slip sometimes, every line will. The secondary HAS TO be able to prevent those slips from becoming points!
The Raiders are the BEST TEAM in the AFC WEST! They have proven it to me, they have proven it to themselves, they have proven it to the Charger, the Cheifs, and the Broncos (big time) – Everyone knows it! If there was a better team in the AFC West – they would have beaten us last year – AT LEAST ONCE! The AFC WEST don’t want nothin’ to do with them OAKLAND RAIDERS! We went into each of their houses and made each of them cry!
NOW LET’S DO IT AGAIN!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Anybody watch NY Ink. My bud Tommy is on it. He and my bro got Raider tats on their neck the same day, its a trip to see that dude make it in NY. Went to the Raider game in Zona in ‘02, damn did we party.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
JHill-check out Jack London Square.It offers and is central to everything.You can take the ferry to SF-the kids would like that-your close to the coliseum,it would be a lot less on the pocketbook,there are some nice course close by too-the old Alameda Course,The Presidio in SF(my choice),Chabot in the Oakland Hills are just a few that are reasonable and nice.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
# Bauce Rules Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Lol Ted where do u normally tailgate at?
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B-Lot
July 24th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
The Raiders should take a shot at Cromartie. Size, Speed, Man coverage skills, and his baggage makes him cheap to sign.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
You’re right Lefty12 I can only wish Gruden’s playcalling was that imaginative. I think what we did see was Hue’s getting used to what these players could do. I think what we saw last year was a scratch the surface type deal. I think he expects lot more from several players this year. I think he will test DHB early to see if he responds, if he does he could have a huge year. If not he will look elsewhere. Bush if he shows what he showed last preseason could be in for a huge year. But I will say it again if our WR’s show up this will be a very good year maybe even GREAT!!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Not having any OTAs will make camp much more interesting,especially at positions in the def. backfield and the Oline.We have a lot of young guys at both positions.It is possible we don’t have to lay out extra bucks for a Cromartie because we have a young gun who can step in and be just as good.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Fear not y’all – Huge Action is Building A Bully!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Lefty12, who Van Dyke?
July 24th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Because of the lockout i believe this years draft class and the progress of last years class is extremely important-not just for us,but for every team.Young players will have to prove their worth much quicker than in the past.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Chiefs went 7-1 at home last year. We were the only team that could beat them in their house!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
outLA-I don’t know which one.I’m just saying one could jump out,be thrown to the wolves early and prove he deserves the spot.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Thanks Lefty!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Gotta buddy that said he can get as many tix in sect 224 for $55, but he is about my least trustworthy friend so not sure about that.
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damn vegas u need new friends.u come up with some crazy sh!t!
July 24th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I would get excited about us getting Leinart on one condition:
The team moves back to LA and plays in the Coliseum and the team colors change to maroon and gold. Plus our OC has to be able to eat with chopstix.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
id take cromartie in a minute. reports are that the raiders are at the top of his list. before i say who my underdog of the year is i want to wait til our 90 man rosetr is set. we get a lot of undfa’s that tend to work out. first guy i want is herzlich.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
504 u wrong as a muhfugga and u know it!! chopsticks hahaha
July 24th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Cro wouldn’t be a bad pickup to say the least.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
181.armond Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
id take cromartie in a minute. reports are that the raiders are at the top of his list. before i say who my underdog of the year is i want to wait til our 90 man rosetr is set. we get a lot of undfa’s that tend to work out. first guy i want is herzlich.
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This time last yr., I really liked my Raiders to win AFC WEST @+650 bet $150 to win $1,500. Wish it would of took the divsional records.LOL
July 24th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Early prediction: Raiders go 6-2 at home this year.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
180.504 Raider Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I would get excited about us getting Leinart on one condition:
The team moves back to LA and plays in the Coliseum and the team colors change to maroon and gold. Plus our OC has to be able to eat with chopstix.
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USC had one of the best offenses I’d never seen before. But i wouldn’t take Chow, Leinart, or Bush if even free.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
184.raideredoutL.A. Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
181.armond Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
id take cromartie in a minute. reports are that the raiders are at the top of his list. before i say who my underdog of the year is i want to wait til our 90 man rosetr is set. we get a lot of undfa’s that tend to work out. first guy i want is herzlich.
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This time last yr., I really liked my Raiders to win AFC WEST @+650 bet $150 to win $1,500. Wish it would of took the divsional records.LOL
——————————————————-take the bet this year cuz i belive we will win it.6-0 and still couldnt make now thats a damn shame.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
185.BigTed707 Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Early prediction: Raiders go 6-2 at home this year.
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we start off 3-1. big upset over green bay later in the year.
July 24th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
i also predict dmc will have 2000 total yards and show that he is much better than the 98th best player voted by the players. aint no way in hell arian foster is 73 players better than him.
July 24th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Armond, like you I’d wait a bit before taking a bet, at least to see what happens roster wise.
July 24th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Honestly, I stopped watching that show after the 1st episode with DMaC @ 98.
189.armond Says:
July 24th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
i also predict dmc will have 2000 total yards and show that he is much better than the 98th best player voted by the players. aint no way in hell arian foster is 73 players better than him.
July 24th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
raiderdoutla
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wasnt that some bullsh!t? i had a lot of disagreements about that show. they had some guys way too high. couldnt believe osi wasnt even in the top 100. i shouldve stopped watching like u.
July 24th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Hey everybody Lockout almost over
July 24th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Its time for some Riders football
July 24th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
You had to know that list was a sham when Revis was voted higher than Nnamdi
July 24th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
*Raiders
July 24th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
That show was certain player’s opinions, right?
July 24th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
So has ‘Jer” been replaced by Steve Corkran?The last few posts have been by Steve.
July 24th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
So how do you guys think free agency will pan out
July 24th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Eh, I’ve lost interest
July 24th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
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