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OT Gaither just visiting Raiders … for now

By Steve Corkran
Friday, July 29th, 2011 at 7:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Hue Jackson said that the visit by veteran offensive tackle Jared Gaither on Friday is to gauge his health and see if he’s worth signing.

Several reports earlier this afternoon said that the Raiders had agreed to terms with Gaither, 6-feet-9 and 340 pounds. Gaither was at practice and spent considerable time with a team trainer and team doctor. He also broke free long enough to chat with Jackson and chief executive Amy Trask early on in practice.

“He’s just visiting me right now,” Jackson said. “I’ve known him from before. He’s here. We’re checking him out, obviously. We brought him in. We want to make sure that any guy is healthy before we ever decide to sign anybody.”

Gaither played mostly left tackle for the Baltimore Ravens the past four seasons, though he missed all of last season with a back injury. He also missed the final five games of the 2009 season with a foot injury. Jackson said he isn’t sure how Gaither would be used if he were signed by the Raiders.

“What we’ll do is we’ll make that decision after we find out if we are going to sign him, first,” Jackson said. “Then, two, we’ll put the best five linemen out there and put them wherever we need to put them. Obviously, I’ve been around Jared and know exactly what he is and if he is a part of our team, we’re going to play him wherever we think he will best fit for us.”

One thing is for certain: Jackson thinks rather highly of Gaither from the time they spent together with the Ravens.

“He’s a tremendous player,” Jackson said. “When he’s healthy, he’s one of the better left tackles in the league. He has extremely long arms, very tall, very long. He’s a good football player. Again, there’s a question of health, and we’re going to do everything that we need to do to make sure that we know exactly where he is.”

Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour recalled playing against Gaither and being impressed by what he saw.

“He is a big guy and we would love to have himm” Seymour said. “All the help we can get is welcome.”

Raiders linebacker Kamerion Wimbley squared off against Gaither plenty of times when Wimbley played for the Cleveland Browns. He, too, was impressed.

“He is a good player,” Wimbley said. “He is a physical player, has great feet and he can help this team out if he comes here. He  has ability, and he has the tools to make it touch on his opponents. When you are trying to rush, his long arms definitely create space. He has the ability to reset and things like that. Quick hands, quick feet, strong guy. Those are the things you look for in an offensive tackle.”

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315 Responses to “OT Gaither just visiting Raiders … for now”

  1. HowieLongsNeckPad Says:

    nice

  2. HowieLongsNeckPad Says:

    makes sense glad they are playing this one smart

  3. chappy23us Says:

    We definitely need OL help. Make it happen Al!

  4. YoungAmerican Says:

    In the meantime, they should be talking to Cromartie and Goldson.

  5. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Wonder what the deal is with Bruce Campbell and DHB

  6. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Hope he’s healthy. That would be a huge move for this offense. With Gaither (LT) & Veldheer (RT) providing a bit more time for Campbell in Y2, Ford & DHB will be taking the top off the defense.

  7. Raiders for life Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
    In the meantime, they should be talking to Cromartie and Goldson
    ########################

    YA, your thoughts on the QB’s ?

  8. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Does anyone know anything about Zach Miller?

  9. severeraiderz Says:

    Asomugha leaving makes room for the young guys to play….hw apparently didn’t want to be here

  10. Raiders for life Says:

    8.8RaiderReign8 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
    Does anyone know anything about Zach Miller?

    ##########################

    This is interesting

    plataynegro Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    I can’t help but wonder, if the lack of interest in Z.Miller has anything to do with the plantar injury he suffered last season. He just wasn’t the same after that. I am in an X-ray program, and have learned a lot abouplataynegro Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    I can’t help but wonder, if the lack of interest in Z.Miller has anything to do with the plantar injury he suffered last season. He just wasn’t the same after that. I am in an X-ray program, and have learned a lot about different injuries and asked a lot of questions about rehab and what not. I was told by a doctor that sometimes you never fully recover from injuries to the feet. We learned the slow process with Chaz, and I wonder if Al is just waiting to see how it goes for Zach. Just a thought
    t different injuries and asked a lot of questions about rehab and what not. I was told by a doctor that sometimes you never fully recover from injuries to the feet. We learned the slow process with Chaz, and I wonder if Al is just waiting to see how it goes for Zach. Just a thought

  11. morilla Says:

    Aso wants his ring. Good luck trying to get that in Philly.

  12. YoungAmerican Says:

    YA, your thoughts on the QB’s ?

    —————

    I think the Raiders will be looking for one in the first round next season…

  13. Raiders for life Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
    YA, your thoughts on the QB’s ?

    —————

    I think the Raiders will be looking for one in the first round next season
    ##############################

    Sorry, I meant this year

  14. severeraiderz Says:

    raiderreign

    Yeah, I do. He is 6′5″ 255lbs TE that played his college ball at ASU. He was born in 1985, is Caucasian and was drafted in the second round of the 2007 draft by the Oakland raiders as they elected to trade back giving up the opportunity to draft Alan Branch to draft him. Anything else you wanna know???

  15. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    YoungAmerican Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
    YA, your thoughts on the QB’s ?

    —————

    I think the Raiders will be looking for one in the first round next season
    ##############################

    Sorry, I meant this year

    ———

    Haha I know. Kind of my way of saying I don’t see the Raiders addressing the QB position this season. Maybe if a UDFA QB they were looking at gets cut..?

  16. BigTed707 Says:

    Cromartie a 49er?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/niners-interested-in-cromartie/

  17. Raiders for life Says:

    Thanks YA,
    Guess Raiderman99 will be disapointed.
    I’m good with Soup, just a little worried with #2 and 3.

  18. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raiders for life Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Thanks YA,
    Guess Raiderman99 will be disapointed.
    I’m good with Soup, just a little worried with #2 and 3.

    ————

    Most likely, yes. I think the Raiders missed out on the only guys they were REALLY interested in bringing in – Kaepernick, Devlin, Vince Young.

    Don’t see them bringing in anyone who would challenge Campbell. Just how it is, I guess.

  19. raidertay Says:

    Hopefully Gaither is healthy. I’ll feel much better with Gaither and Veldheer on the OTs. Move Barksdale to OG this year and we will def be creatin a Bully.

  20. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Lets see, we let the best corner in the league to leave after 8 YEARS of developement, our QB corps is strained at best, Cambell can’t take a hit, though I like our O-Line pick ups. I’m the most frustrated RAIDER FAN in AMERICA! Al, Bite Me! Fan since 1964!

  21. raidertay Says:

    Check and Double Check Gaither. We dont need another JAvon Walker.

  22. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nothing excites me more than seeing disappointed Philly fans.

    The Giants will smash on the Phils in the playoffs, and than Vick will play his typical 12 game season and lose in the first round or two of the playoffs, and we can all point and laugh.

    Can’t wait!!!

  23. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Doesn’t seem like Gaither is all that healthy. If he was (like all these other FA’s) he would have been inked.

    Foot injuries and back injuries??

    2 year, near vet minimum, incentive-laden contract only.

  24. morilla Says:

    #21 obviously wanted out after the season. That’s why Al gave Routt the contract and drafted more. This deal was done a long time ago, its a shame to see him go. He’s a class act. But I don’t want anyone around who doesn’t want to be here. Let him chase his precious.

  25. priesttj Says:

    Hmmmmm strange I saw him take a lot of hits last year. Glad we have Campbell and not worried abou the backup. The backup is the backup for a reason he’s not a starter I have no issues with Boller that I don’t with the Bozos you guys talk about bring in here. Trent Edwards what a JOKE!

  26. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would like to know the last NFL team that made a huge splash in free agency and than won the SB that year.

    The best I got of the top of my head is the Prime Time Cowboys of the 90’s.

  27. Raiders for life Says:

    Who know’s, maybe the Raiders will pick up Pryor? At this point it couldn’t hurt.

  28. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Again, since 2007 Kyle Boller is 2-10 as a starter with 12 TD’s and 23 turnovers.

    He is not legit #2 NFL material.

    Hopefully it never comes down to him playing, because if he does, we ain’t winning.

  29. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I would like the idea of Mr. Vehldeer and Mr. Barksdale or Mr. B. Campbell as our OTs if they were not so inexperienced.

  30. RaiderRetribution Says:

    especially with a rookie center

  31. RaiderRetribution Says:

    i’m glad we resigned Mr. Routt, but I have got to think we could have had for around 7-8 million a year instead of 10-11

  32. Raiders for life Says:

    28.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
    Again, since 2007 Kyle Boller is 2-10 as a starter with 12 TD’s and 23 turnovers.

    He is not legit #2 NFL material.

    Hopefully it never comes down to him playing, because if he does, we ain’t winning.

    ##################################

    Problem is…Soup’s stingers, Raiders need a legit back up.

  33. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Does anyone think that if Boller were waived, he would be a #2 anywhere else?

    The guy was already out of the league once for all of 2008, and has posted an impressive 58 QB rating since he got back in the league.

    I think I would rather Charlie Frye at the #2. I hated Boller at Cal (he once went 0-11 one year there, which is also impressive in it’s own way) and still hate him now.

  34. VanHeathen Says:

    Boller looked HORRIBLE in the snaps he took during hte regular season last year…we need to find a LEGIT back up QB.
    As for the Eagles, 50 years without a SuperBowl Win…
    about the same as Nnamdi getting a Pick6.
    Not looking forward to dealing w/ the CrackHead Skank from Philly at my work, who’s gonna run her mouth from now til new Years after signing Nnamdi…

  35. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Severeraiderz Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    raiderreign

    Yeah, I do. He is 6′5″ 255lbs TE that played his college ball at ASU. He was born in 1985, is Caucasian and was drafted in the second round of the 2007 draft by the Oakland raiders as they elected to trade back giving up the opportunity to draft Alan Branch to draft him. Anything else you wanna know???
    ________________

    Yeah will this matter for the Raiders at the beginning of the season?

  36. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Crucial time for Stanford Routt & Co.
    July, 29, 2011
    JUL 29
    11:00
    PM ET
    EmailPrintComments
    By Bill Williamson
    Its Stanford Routt’s time to show those glossy numbers from last season were no fluke.

    Routt is about to be tested.

    Unless the Raiders snare a veteran like Antonio Cromartie or Nate Clements, Routt is expected to the Raiders’ No. 1 cornerback now that Nnamdi Asomugha has flown off to the Eagles.

    The Raiders clearly anticipated that. They gave him a three-year, $30 million deal to keep him from entering free agency. That’s starter money, folks.

    One of the reasons why the Raiders paid to keep Routt was his outstanding statistics. His “burn rate’ was one of the lowest in the NFL in 2010. Now, that he will be a full-time starter and now that he’ll likely play against the opponent’s best receivers all the time, Routt must step up.

    He is not alone. The Raider’s young cornerbacks and veteran Chris Johnson will need to elevate their game if the Raiders don’t add a starter.

    Youngsters Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware and draft picks Chimdi Chekwa and DeMarcus Van Dyke will all be expected to contribute in Asomugha’s absence.

  37. Raiders for life Says:

    JFB, I agree, I’m not sold on JC and the Raiders are FKD at #2 and 3. Boller is not exactly prime time. I was hoping for Orton but I know he wouldn’t want a #2 spot. Hoping for Devlin to sit but he is gone. Not much options left.

  38. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would rather send in Terrell Pryor and let him adlib his way through a game, than attempt to see Boller run an offense.

    But hey, it is the backup, and hopefully we never see him all year, except mopping up blowout victories!!!

  39. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    WHO IS OUR #2 QB….REALLY?

  40. Raiders for life Says:

    Yeah will this matter for the Raiders at the beginning of the season

    ############################

    Yes it will matter, It’ Campbell’s #1 receiver.

  41. VanHeathen Says:

    Al better get the Raiders GM in his office and kick his azz…oh yeah, that’s right. nevermind

  42. morilla Says:

    Malcom Floyd?

  43. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Hue say’s in his press conference It’s our biggest goal to find ways to get Murphy,Ford and Schilens the ball…..Not mentioning DHB

  44. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Jerry would have had at least 10 post today…c’mon Steve!!!

    Step it up a notch…I’ll support you but I gotta see 101%!

    Don’t matter if it’s news or your opinion…we got the munchies….feed us!

    ;)

  45. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Henry Wofford say’s as soon as Gaither passes medical clearance he will be signed.

  46. Raiders for life Says:

    Oh well, here’s hoping to a 10 – 6 season with some post season play.
    RAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSS

  47. morilla Says:

    How did Campbell fail his physical? Did I read that correctly?

  48. Born with a Patch Says:

    Any news on Huff or Cromartie? Miller?

  49. YoungAmerican Says:

    All I’ve heard on the Huff front was from a beat writer who said the teams he talked to thought Huff was “soft”.

  50. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Campbell has some kind of Injury… Seen pictures of him working out with DHB and Campbell still looks like a big beast

  51. YoungAmerican Says:

    Campbell failed his physical. Put on the non-football injury list.

  52. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    It looks like its going to be a Lower Body injury because he was working the ropes today

  53. morilla Says:

    They need to get him in the mix this year. Figure out a spot for him and let him loose. I want to see his skills in action. Hopefully Wiz will coach him up.

  54. HairyBush Says:

    Breaking News! Quentin Scott just signed a 3 year extension with the raiders!

  55. lefty12 Says:

    The Bears are interested in Miller.Isn’t he is one of the guys Lechter said wouldn’t resign after Cable wasn’t given a new contract?Looks as is maybe Shane knew what he was saying,and Davis underestimated what many of the players thought of their ex-coach.

  56. HairyBush Says:

    I have said for months now Nnamdi would be an Eagle, Unfortunetley I didn’t want to be right. At least he is not in the AFC.

  57. morilla Says:

    Didn’t he say that about Bush as well?

  58. HairyBush Says:

    55.lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    The Bears are interested in Miller.Isn’t he is one of the guys Lechter said wouldn’t resign after Cable wasn’t given a new contract?Looks as is maybe Shane knew what he was saying,and Davis underestimated what many of the players thought of their ex-coach.

    ——————-
    Cable is old news, players are past that.

  59. YoungAmerican Says:

    Here in Chicago I’ve heard nothing of the Bears being interested in Miller. If Martz couldn’t use Olsen, what’s he going to do with Miller, who will be far more expensive to acquire than a guy who they already had under contract?

  60. BigTed707 Says:

    Now, that he will be a full-time starter and now that he’ll likely play against the opponent’s best receivers all the time,
    **************
    As opposed to last year, when he was a full time starter and went against #1 receivers.

  61. HairyBush Says:

    57.morilla Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
    Didn’t he say that about Bush as well?

    ————————
    Bush didn’t like Cable, he tried to make him a fullback.

  62. BigTed707 Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Hue say’s in his press conference It’s our biggest goal to find ways to get Murphy,Ford and Schilens the ball…..Not mentioning DHB
    **********
    When has Hue ever talked kindly about DHB?

  63. RAIDER Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Cable is old news, players are past that.

    ……….

    How do you know that?

  64. lefty12 Says:

    YA,heard that this evening on the radio.They are looking for a replacement for Olsen and Zack is of interest.
    Hairy,really?None of the guys Shane mentioned have resigned with us-Nnamdi,Gallery,Miller and Bush I believe were the ones.I’m not sticking up for Cable-phuck him,he works in Seattle-I’m just pointing it out.The players here obviously have moved on but have those mentioned?

  65. HairyBush Says:

    63.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
    HairyBush Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Cable is old news, players are past that.

    ……….

    How do you know that?

    ———————
    Hue has this crew focused, with the exception of Gallery these guys are going foward. Shane can still go drinking with Cable on Tuesdays and all is well.

  66. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    “Can I get a witness!”

    “I say we pray…pray, pray, pray I say we pray just to make it today!”

    “Lord have mercy! God is my shepherd, and he knows what I want!”

  67. YoungAmerican Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    YA,heard that this evening on the radio.They are looking for a replacement for Olsen and Zack is of interest.

    ———–

    I don’t see it. They had a TE – one of the best receiving TEs in the league – and they traded him away for next to nothing. Miller doesn’t fit what Martz looks for in TEs, and signing him will cost more than it would have to simply keep Olsen.

  68. HairyBush Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
    YA,heard that this evening on the radio.They are looking for a replacement for Olsen and Zack is of interest.
    Hairy,really?None of the guys Shane mentioned have resigned with us-Nnamdi,Gallery,Miller and Bush I believe were the ones.I’m not sticking up for Cable-phuck him,he works in Seattle-I’m just pointing it out.The players here obviously have moved on but have those mentioned
    —————————
    Nnamdi was not staying regardless.
    Gallery was pissy and I knew he was gone.
    Bush will stay.
    I would be shocked if Al didn’t make it rain for Zach.

    I liked Cable, I just don’t think we ever would have gotten over the hump with him.

  69. BigTed707 Says:

    I guess when CIN let J.Joseph go to HOU, they neglected to tell their DC.
    lol

  70. DocPorter11 Says:

    You guys notice how DHB and Campbell seem to be softer than your average Raider and they both went to Maryland. Gaither also went to maryland so I’m kind of weary about him. Even go back to Lamont Jordan. I guess it’s no wonder their Women’s BBall team is top dog in MD.

  71. HairyBush Says:

    69.BigTed707 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    I guess when CIN let J.Joseph go to HOU, they neglected to tell their DC.
    lol

    ——————
    sounds like an Al move

  72. BigTed707 Says:

    # HairyBush Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    69.BigTed707 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    I guess when CIN let J.Joseph go to HOU, they neglected to tell their DC.
    lol

    ——————
    sounds like an Al move
    *************
    At least Al has Routt in place, Zimmer has no clue what to do!

  73. Raiders for life Says:

    In Al’s last PC when he threw Cable under the bus…
    he also spoke of Mike Bush with high regards.
    So, Al are you gonna re-sign him or what?

  74. RAIDER Says:

    I’ll try again, hairy one.

    How do you know the players are over Cable?

  75. BigTed707 Says:

    I wonder what teams would be in the market for Bush…
    Bengals? Colts? Ravens?

  76. HairyBush Says:

    Linebacker Channing Crowder anyone?
    Depth perhaps?

  77. lefty12 Says:

    Maybe Bush has signed his tender and the Raiders just haven’t announced it.He can’t practice until the 4th anyway.Actually,the same could be said of Miller.

  78. RAIDER Says:

    How do you know Hue has the team focused, while we’re at it? How do you know what’s going on inside of the locker room? Do you work for the team, Hairy Bush?

  79. A.B. Paine III Says:

    ClaytonESPN John Clayton
    One of the most baffling things in free agency is why Raiders TE Zach Miller isn’t getting more action. Guy can catch the ball.

  80. RAIDER Says:

    Hairy Bush, what reason do you think Nnamdi wanted out of Oakland, besides money?

  81. Raider J Says:

    37. Why all this Pat Devlin love in this chat room? He played well@ DEL but couldn’t beat out UDFA Daryll Clark @ PSU. The next young Raider QB has to be franchise quality.

  82. A.B. Paine III Says:

    ClaytonESPN John Clayton
    Looks as though there might not be a quick deal for Antonio Cromartie even after Nnamdi got his deal with the Eagles

  83. HairyBush Says:

    75.BigTed707 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    I wonder what teams would be in the market for Bush…
    Bengals? Colts? Ravens?

    ——————-
    Isn’t there a pretty high tender on him being a restricted free agent? I doubt any team will pay the steep price tag to get him. If that weren’t the case I always thought he would be a fit in Indy.

  84. A.B. Paine III Says:

    The next young Raider QB has to be franchise quality.
    —————————–
    The next Raiders QB has to be a veteran like Rich Gannon. Davis can’t develop young QBs.

  85. HairyBush Says:

    80.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    Hairy Bush, what reason do you think Nnamdi wanted out of Oakland, besides money?

    —————–
    Your joking, right?

  86. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    really interested in how Nnamdi does in a 21st century D that pressures the QB. My guess is 7 ints this season. Unfortunately, I think Routt is the second coming of Elvis “toast” Patterson. We’ll see…

  87. RAIDER Says:

    No, I’m not joking. Besides money, why does Nnamdi want out of Oakland? Are you saying that if Al had given him the money he wanted, he would have left anyone? If yes, why?

  88. Raider J Says:

    70. Good pt. Merriman has had injury issues too

  89. Raiders for life Says:

    78.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
    How do you know Hue has the team focused, while we’re at it? How do you know what’s going on inside of the locker room? Do you work for the team, Hairy Bush?

    ##################################

    This aint a good time for your fkn BS.
    Nevermind, tell me again why AD is so bad.

  90. DT42 Says:

    I don’t think that Aso thought this on out. The Philadelphia Heat……..err Eagles new DC used to be their O-Line coach. You don’t think that he is going to be out coached?? The Heat…..i mean Eagles putting him in charge of the defense is like the Raiders putting Sanjay Lal in charge of anything. I almost feel sorry for him. Gonna be tuning in watching him with a towel over his head after the first round of the playoffs are over and his team gets out coached by any NFC Offensive Coordinator. Also be sure to enjoy those loyal Eagle fans. Don’t forget when you got drafted by the Raiders and the “draft experts” didn’t even have a picture of you to put next to the cut and paste “typical Al Davis pick” description, that the Raider Nation supported you and stuck by you until you developed into the best shutdown corner in football. I’m sure if you get burned once in Philly those fans will be there to support you. Also be sure to bundle up you punk A$$ because Philly winters are no joke. I didn’t know that Nnamdi Asomugha was Nigerian for LeBron James.

  91. RAIDER Says:

    “would have left anyway”, not would have left “anyone”.

  92. BigTed707 Says:

    Get on the business end of Al’s “going out of business sale!”

  93. lefty12 Says:

    Didn’t we have more sacks than Philly last year?

  94. HairyBush Says:

    78.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
    How do you know Hue has the team focused, while we’re at it? How do you know what’s going on inside of the locker room? Do you work for the team, Hairy Bush?

    ———————–
    I think the way Hue has them practicing is a good start. Do you disagree?

  95. RAIDER Says:

    lol. RFL. You having a bad day today, buddy? Thought Al was really going to keep Nnamdi?

  96. RAIDER Says:

    Bush, you stated as fact that Hue has the team focused. You also stated as fact that the team is over Cable. How do you know any of this?

  97. Raiders for life Says:

    95.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    lol. RFL. You having a bad day today, buddy? Thought Al was really going to keep Nnamdi?

    ###############

    Naw, We all knew he was gone.

  98. HairyBush Says:

    87.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
    No, I’m not joking. Besides money, why does Nnamdi want out of Oakland? Are you saying that if Al had given him the money he wanted, he would have left anyone? If yes, why?

    —————————
    C-Wood got him pretty excited on what it’s like to win a superbowl for starters.

  99. RaiderRetribution Says:

    there are only two primary reasons for a player signing a contract:

    1) Who will pay me the most
    2) Who do I have the best opportunity to win a Super Bowl with that will pay me the most

    every other reason is a distant 4th at best (there is no third)

  100. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Nnamdi got 12 million from a Super Bowl Contender

  101. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    wow. you are right. Oak ranked second in the league with 47 sacks last year. huh.

  102. BigTed707 Says:

    Heap going to ARI?

  103. ThreeRingCircus Says:

    Whats with DHB bein hurt and missin practice. I mean really, come on. Is it one of those mysterious groin injuries that seem to plague the Raider locker room? Or is just not ready for prime time.

    Just because he was a first round pick doesnt make him first round material.

    Time to sh’t or get off the pot.

  104. HairyBush Says:

    96.RAIDER Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
    Bush, you stated as fact that Hue has the team focused. You also stated as fact that the team is over Cable. How do you know any of this?

    ————————
    An intelligent person collects as much information as possible on said subject and formulates an opinion. I never used the word “fact”, you did. I know you struggle with the intelligence thing but you are masterful in the art of baiting people for your amusement. Perhaps take some of that time and form some interesting opinions of your own, Maybe even a positive one regarding the Raiders. That would be a nice change of pace.

  105. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders had the most sacks per pass play, only team infact with over 9% sack rate

  106. hendu Says:

    MRS,most will listen to Raider FANS,that leaves you OUT,niner fan,hater

  107. Raider J Says:

    The next young Raider QB has to be franchise quality.
    —————————–
    The next Raiders QB has to be a veteran like Rich Gannon. Davis can’t develop young QBs.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    84. Hue Jack City is highly regarded as a QB coach.
    The next 2 yrs is the perfect time to get a young jedi.

    A veteran #2QB who is an upgrade over Boller is good enough for now. No one as good as Gannon is available.

    I’d prefer to see JC secure the position this season but if necs, Carson Palmer 2012

  108. wasbanned Says:

    Get ready for some news guys cause Al just woke up and he will be working until sunrise(that’s when he has to be back in his coffin).

  109. HairyBush Says:

    77.lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Maybe Bush has signed his tender and the Raiders just haven’t announced it.He can’t practice until the 4th anyway.Actually,the same could be said of Miller.

    ————————–
    excellent point

  110. BigTed707 Says:

    Joseph landed a five-year deal worth $48.7 million, including $23.5 milllion guaranteed with a $12.5 signing bonus, according to the Houston Chronicle.
    ***************
    He is no better than Routt, but is getting paid about the same. Must be the going rate these days for above average CBs.

  111. RAIDER Says:

    Hairy Bush, you said Hue has the team focused, then said that the team is over Cable. If those were mere opinions or educated guesses, all you had to do is say that you believed them to be true. You stated them under the premise that they are true. So, either admit that you aren’t certain theyr’e true, or tell us how you know they are.

  112. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Oak D ranked 20th in scoring. Philly ranked 21st. We’ll see if he is really worth the money.

  113. DT42 Says:

    How are the Eagles a super bowl contender when their Defensive Coordinators last defensive coaching position was in 1989 at Kingsville TX High School?? I’m not making that up its on his bio. You can’t tell me that this guy is going to be able to make the right defensive play calls.1st round of the playoffs and they are out.

  114. morilla Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
    wow. you are right. Oak ranked second in the league with 47 sacks last year. huh.
    ———————————-

    Yeah, besides the blown plays that killed us the D-line was pretty stout last year. No more big plays allowed please.

  115. BigTed707 Says:

    You KNOW J.Ford Loves Hue! DHB? probably not so much…

  116. RAIDER Says:

    Another way to tell how effective Nnamdi is how the Raiders do defensively this year.

  117. ThreeRingCircus Says:

    Fact: DHB watches practice

  118. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    If DHB is watching he aint dropping.

  119. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I cant believe my view of Routt is so different from other fans that watch every Raider game. I have zero confidence in Routt. Please tell me why he is a top CB in the league (and dont mention that weird stat where raider cbs rank 3 in th top 6)

  120. HairyBush Says:

    Night all’ hopefully I will turn on NFL network tomorrow and see that we signed Z.Miller, Cromartie, and traded for Orton.

  121. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    another bit: why do we play DEs at OLBs positions when we never blitz the friggin OLBs? makes no sense!

  122. Raiders for life Says:

    109.HairyBush Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
    77.lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Maybe Bush has signed his tender and the Raiders just haven’t announced it.He can’t practice until the 4th anyway.Actually,the same could be said of Miller.

    ————————–
    excellent point

    ##########################

    Got my fingers crossed, toes, arms, hair follicles, teeth, both of MR’s belly buttons.

  123. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Everybody quit raggin on DHB. When he goes out and busts all recieving records, we’ll see whos laughing then.

    Until then, back off of the guy and give him some space.

    Al Davis wouldn’t of drafted him if he didn’t see something special. Al has been in football longer than any of you, so back off.

  124. RAIDER Says:

    Too bad we can’t get more armchair insight into the Raiders’ locker room from Hairy Bush. The team is over Cable…lol. Sure. He knows this because he’s personally spoken to every single player on the team.

  125. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Maybe DHB is working on his decoy skills, so back off and give him some space.

  126. lefty12 Says:

    He isn’t going to anything on the field if he isn’t practicing.Would be nice to know why he isn’t.

  127. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    I cant believe my view of Routt is so different from other fans that watch every Raider game. I have zero confidence in Routt. Please tell me why he is a top CB in the league (and dont mention that weird stat where raider cbs rank 3 in th top 6)

    =============================

    Because coach davis made him a rich man so he’s gonna play like one.

  128. lefty12 Says:

    *to do anything

  129. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I quit raggin on DMac when he started to ball. DHB has more names than career TDs, cmon!

  130. RAIDER Says:

    What has DHB done thus far to convince any sane person that he’ll break even one single receiving record? And I mean a positive record. Not dropped balls, etc.

  131. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Anybody got any news or info on nicky miller?

  132. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    LOL Decoy! that sanjay lal is a helluva coach!

  133. RAIDER Says:

    Decoy.. my f’n goodness. Goodnight.

  134. Raider J Says:

    123. I get tired of haters too
    but if DHB “busts all receiving records”
    then he found some of those pills from the movie, Limitless.

  135. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
    I quit raggin on DMac when he started to ball. DHB has more names than career TDs, cmon!

    =======================

    Awesome. I like it. If dhb wants the raggin to stop, LEARN HOW TO CATCH A FKNG FOOTBALL WITH ALL THAT MONEY YOU GOT.

  136. BigTed707 Says:

    # Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    I cant believe my view of Routt is so different from other fans that watch every Raider game. I have zero confidence in Routt. Please tell me why he is a top CB in the league (and dont mention that weird stat where raider cbs rank 3 in th top 6)
    ******************
    Stanford Routt finished third only to Darrelle Revis and Antoine Winfield in cornerback Success Rate.

  137. DT42 Says:

    Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    I cant believe my view of Routt is so different from other fans that watch every Raider game. I have zero confidence in Routt. Please tell me why he is a top CB in the league (and dont mention that weird stat where raider cbs rank 3 in th top 6)
    ——————————————————

    Nnamdi didn’t trail other teams best WR’s like most shutdown corners did. Opposing offense’s have the chance to match up their best WR vs. Routt and Johnson. Those guys have had the toughest job in football for years. They never backed down. Did they get burned sometimes? Sure did. But there are not a lot of corners in the NFL that can do what they do. Ask DeAngelo Hall what its like be a Raider CB. I don’t think that Routt is as good as Aso but he’s not a bum. And he has improved every year. I’d love to see the Raiders focus on what killed the defense last year – Run Defense. Ty Warren or Cullen Jenkins would be great additions to the team.

  138. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    DHB gonna bust All recieving records with the might of a hungry man. Look out. No more decoy for DHB.

  139. Raiders for life Says:

    Anybody got any news or info on nicky miller?

    ####################

    In an earlier comment someone said he has hair like Gallery.

  140. JB Says:

    Are we sure ZMiller is 100% after that foot injury? He never seemed to come back all the way after it. Maybe AD knows something we don’t. Maybe he’s just waiting to see how ZMiller rates in other teams eyes and will then get a bargain if there’s no real follow-through by other potential teams.

  141. BigTed707 Says:

    “Playing opposite Nnamdi Asomugha, Routt had a whopping 99 passes throw in his direction, allowing just 39 completions. He also finished third in the NFL in Stats Inc.’s “Burn Percentage” list. One negative note is that Routt was among the bottom feeders in YAC allowed (4.9). If he improves his tackling, that three-year, $31.5 million deal will look like money well spent”

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3183/player?r=1

  142. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    that dammned success rate again. i wathced the games, routt has no idea where to line up half the time.

  143. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    DHB = Decoy Had Balls

  144. JB Says:

    This will be NMiller’s breakout year. That is if he can stick on the 53. He was working out at some high end WR camp in the off season. Don’t remember which one. I for one would really like to see him given a legitimate shot at the slot position. He has great hands and always seems to find a way of getting open. JLH is history. Hope Nick hangs in there.

  145. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    119.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    I cant believe my view of Routt is so different from other fans that watch every Raider game. I have zero confidence in Routt. Please tell me why he is a top CB in the league (and dont mention that weird stat where raider cbs rank 3 in th top 6)

    //////////////

    Routt has been beast when #21 wouldn’t play. Watch those games again. We’ll see if he holds up for a whole season now.

  146. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    pointless to argue against those magic stats. will have to wait for the season to start,

  147. Raiders for life Says:

    138.DavisFanRaiderFan Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    DHB gonna bust All recieving records with the might of a hungry man. Look out. No more decoy for DHB.

    ################################

    I think he gets cut and replaces Sanjay Lal.

  148. JB Says:

    If DHB doesn’t immediately stand out as the #1 WR then they should convert him to a DB. He conceivably be a good safety.

  149. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    DHB will have success this year and I wont rag on him anymore. He is going to line up on the field and tear it up. He will have flames shootin outta his ass, no human defender will be able to match up with him.

  150. priesttj Says:

    Kyle Boller was a #2 some where else before we got him. Now he’s a #2 here. satisfied??4

    Why should I worry about what he did on 2007? it’s 2011.

  151. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    you know how Al likes to give legacy numbers. I think Al gives DHB Javon Walkers old number. very similar game on the sidelines and on the checkbook.

  152. priesttj Says:

    JB what in god’s name makes you think DHB would be a good DB? I’ve read this so many times the skills that make great DB’s are exactly opposite of a WR he barely learning to play WR and you want him to switch to DB having never played it?

  153. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    If I’m Coach Davis, I really have to look hard at which QB has the best chance of getting DHB a catchable ball?

    That is how I would determine who starts under center, JC or KB?

    If I’m Coach Davis, I want a damn return on my investment.

  154. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Does anyone know if DHB has a fan club?

  155. JB Says:

    Nnamdi is gone. Thanks for the good years but you are no longer a concern of the Raider Nation. We’ve won playoff games and SB’s without him in the past and will do it again. Let’s focus on what we do have and just focus on doing whatever it takes to win. I feel good about HuJack and his supporting cast. We have a number of good players and with proper coaching and game planning, we will win more than our share. Things are looking up.

    I’ve got my season tickets, jersey and other gear ready to go. I’m ready for some winning football.

  156. lefty12 Says:

    Priet,you know how it is-the grass is always greener.Boller is as good or better than any #2 QB available,but all anyone thinks about is the INT he threw last year.

  157. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    i think boller has a better shot at getting dhb the ball during games, both of em will be patroling the sidelines all year.

  158. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    DHB cannot catch because he is afraid of taking a vicious hit. I dont blame him. What he needs to do is decoy, or just smoke it down field and hope JC or KB can huck it 65-70 yards and make it catchable in stride. Period.

  159. Dakota Says:

    The thing that annoys me most about Nnamdi leaving is the fact that Al Davis will spend the next few drafts wasting valuable picks trying to find the next Nnamdi. Hell, how many DBs have we drafted the past two years….I am sure Al did it with the knowledge that Nnamdi would not be coming back.

    I don’t put that much stock in the CB position. Play more zone and you don’t need super star DBs. But you know Al, so get ready to see some first rounders spent on CBs in the upcoming 3-5 drafts.

  160. Raiders for life Says:

    153.DavisFanRaiderFan Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    If I’m Coach Davis, I really have to look hard at which QB has the best chance of getting DHB a catchable ball?

    That is how I would determine who starts under center, JC or KB?

    If I’m Coach Davis, I want a damn return on my investment.
    #############################

    If I was Coach Davis I would want Soup to throw the ball to someone who can catch. DHB might make some progress, let us pray. Forgive me Al for I have sinned.

  161. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    DHB will be the guy Boeller throws to when he is warming up on the sideline to replace JC for whatever reason.

  162. lefty12 Says:

    Murphy drops more balls than DHB.Do you guys watch the games?

  163. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Murphy can drop more balls than DHB Lefty, cause he don’t make near as much money.

  164. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 read some of this stuff and it bowls me over, they want every stiff in the book until he gets here and stinks up the joint. I see what Boller does and he’s no worse than 90% of the backups in this league. There are some horrible backups and some bad starters. We’re better off than 50% of the league. Look at the garbage in SF and all around the league. Name the backups of all the teams in the AFC West and tell me they have better backups. It’s a joke already!!

  165. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    murphy catches more balls than DHB. fact.

  166. JB Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    JB what in god’s name makes you think DHB would be a good DB? I’ve read this so many times the skills that make great DB’s are exactly opposite of a WR he barely learning to play WR and you want him to switch to DB having never played it?
    *******************************
    Size, speed, knowledge of pass patterns, work ethic, etc. He just can’t catch the ball. Every time the ball gets near him it hits the ground. Everything you look for in a DB. No?

    We’ve had successes in the past in converting player positions. Who would have every thought Todd Christiansen would end up being one of the best ever Raider TE’s? Didn’t Nnamdi switch from Safety to CB? That’s not as radical change but QB to WR, S to CB, FB to TE are things that have worked successfully. I’d at least give it a try before I cut him.

  167. Raiders for life Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    Murphy drops more balls than DHB.Do you guys watch the games
    ###################################

    Louie Murf has more tats than receptions

  168. lefty12 Says:

    The last 2 years we have drafted 4 CBs.If I’m not mistaken we have also drafted 4 Olinemen,a bunch of WRs,and 2 TEs.It looks as if we are drafting most positions to get deeper and/or better.

  169. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    DHB knows DECOY pass patterns, he would be a helluva decoy CB

  170. Kirk Says:

    I can’t believe people are still defending DHB. He is a bust. I looked at 5 minutes of film and could tell that he isn’t quick enough, and he has no hands. He can run fast in a straight line, but he can’t cut or catch.

  171. Dakota Says:

    Who cares about backup QBs? If you have to play your backup QB you are fkn toast anyhow so what does it matter? 32 teams struggle to find decent #1 qbs,so it is pretty obvious that the next 32 QBs on the market are going to be crap.

    Like arguing about whether Rosie O’Donnell is better looking than Roseanne Barr. Pointless, they are both fuggly

  172. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Last Year:

    DHB targetted 65 times, caught 26 40% CR
    Murphy 78/41 53% CR

  173. lefty12 Says:

    I agree Priest.They get some preconceived notion and nothing can change their minds.Take DHB dropping passes.While it is true in his rookie year he dropped more than his share,last year he improved ,especially as the year went along.Yet,you constantly read that he can’t catch,which is totally false.

  174. Kirk Says:

    Here are some of DHB’s highlights….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D04Wbjs0hmw

  175. Raiders for life Says:

    Dakota Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
    Who cares about backup QBs? If you have to play your backup QB you are fkn toast
    ##########################

    I have to disagree. Why? Because JC has stinger issues. If the Raiders don’t have a legit backup then you are fkn toast.

  176. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Coach Davis loves DHBs’ all world speed, no doubting about it. But what on Gods’ good earth did he see in him as a WR? Somebody. PLEASE HELP ME SEE THE LIGHT. Im beggin, help me understand.

  177. lefty12 Says:

    Kirk,you watch film but admittedly don’t watch games?You have commented about players in games and then admitted you didn’t see the game.

  178. JB Says:

    Assuming Gaither is healthy & signed, where does he play, L or R? Who’s the better road grater? My speculation is Gaither (OLT), Loper or Barksdale (OLG), Lil Wiz (C), BCampbell (ORG). Veldheer (ORT). There’s also a possibility that AD will pick up another FA guard. While being a new group, it still appears to have great potential. We needed big changes on the O-Line and it certainly seems as though our pleas were heard.

  179. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Kirk, Almost makes me feel bad for JaMar because if DHB can make a catch or two, JaMars psyche doesnt take such a hit.

  180. Dakota Says:

    175.Raiders for life Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Dakota Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
    Who cares about backup QBs? If you have to play your backup QB you are fkn toast
    ##########################

    I have to disagree. Why? Because JC has stinger issues. If the Raiders don’t have a legit backup then you are fkn toast.
    +++++++

    What “legit” QB is going to come play backup to Jason Campbell? Orton? Brett Favre? Kurt Warner?

    Once you look at the realistic choices you realize there are none. Boller and Frye are what every backup QB in the NFL is….guys that can hand the ball off if called upon.

  181. Raiders for life Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    Here are some of DHB’s highlights

    #####################

    I’ve watched highlights of DHB, Ford, D. Moore. Ausberry, Jett,
    Thing is highlights don’t show the bone head plays.

  182. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 they just don’t pay attention and let their bias’s tell them everything I just watched the Indy game again a weel ago the kid caught everything they threw to him. But they’ll still say he can’t catch, the film says otherwise. They let the media tell them everything.

    You got this one guy who says he watche dhis highlight film and he knew he couldn’t catch now we all know that is a lie.

  183. Cornfucious Says:

    Cornfucious so sad to see Nnamdi Asomugha go.
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

    Make Cornfucious mad.
    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Al Davis ::oops: fall of rocker chair?

    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

    Cornfucious so sad. :eek:

  184. Cornfucious Says:

    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
    Al Davis :oops: make big mistake
    :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
    So sad to see Nnamdi go.

  185. lefty12 Says:

    JB,if Gaither is signed he will probably play LT since HJ was talking him up so much.I believe Carlisle will be the starter at RG though,at least to start the year until the young guys get up to speed.I don’t think the line that starts the year will necessarily be the line that finishes the year.

  186. KoolKell Says:

    Move Veldheer to RT? ugh. Like they moved Gallery all around?

  187. Kirk Says:

    Lefty, I don’t know what you are talking about. I haven’t missed a game in 10 years. When we drafted DHB, I looked at film of him and Crabtree, and it was obvious Crabtree was much quick and much better. But Al doesn’t look at film. He goes by 40 times. That’s why we s0ck.

    DHB has caught 35 passes in 26 games for 2 touchdowns.

    He also gave up 2 touchdowns with a fumble and a pass that bounced off his hands, and the DB caught the rebound and returned it for a touchdown.

    DHB is the biggest single problem we have. Get rid of him, and our offense is much better.

  188. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Heres hopin DHB gets to practice someday. :smile:

  189. priesttj Says:

    Kirk says some of the most bogus crap you can ever read, it shows how out of touch he is. “I saw his highlights and it shows he can’t catch” YEAH right!!

  190. KoolKell Says:

    If he’s healthy…good move, I guess. Where is Michael Bush?

  191. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
    Lefty, I don’t know what you are talking about. I haven’t missed a game in 10 years. When we drafted DHB, I looked at film of him and Crabtree, and it was obvious Crabtree was much quick and much better. But Al doesn’t look at film. He goes by 40 times. That’s why we s0ck.

    DHB has caught 35 passes in 26 games for 2 touchdowns.

    He also gave up 2 touchdowns with a fumble and a pass that bounced off his hands, and the DB caught the rebound and returned it for a touchdown.

    DHB is the biggest single problem we have. Get rid of him, and our offense is much better.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  192. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,I take everything he says in context.He doesn’t watch the games-he admitted that last year.

  193. JB Says:

    Lefty, you could be right but I don’t see Carlisle starting or even sticking. He’s a ZBS technique and that’s not going to be the uniform of the day. This line will all be about Power Blocking – abusing the opponent into the ground. The finesses blocking scheme will be a thing of the past – justifiably so.

  194. elboocho Says:

    I just read on sporting news that Gaither has indeed signed w/the Raiders? ant know if this is true or not! here is the link aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/team/13/oakland-raiders

  195. Raiders for life Says:

    Once you look at the realistic choices you realize there are none. Boller and Frye are what every backup QB in the NFL is….guys that can hand the ball off if called upon.

    ###########################

    Easy now! Bulger, Carr (jokin) Diggin deep now, Palmer? Jeeeez I think your right. Not many choices out there. Ok Pryor.

  196. KoolKell Says:

    HueJax is definitively running a different Raider Camp. No more of that wine country soft stuff.

  197. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    As nice as Veldheer played last year he still gave up 12 sacks I believe….and Gaither gave up 8 sacks in 26 starts with the Ravens at LT. (a little drunk right now but I think those stats are right)

    If he is healthy I think playing Gaither at LT and moving Veldheer is the right move.

  198. JB Says:

    elboocho Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    I just read on sporting news that Gaither has indeed signed w/the Raiders? ant know if this is true or not! here is the link aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/team/13/oakland-raiders
    ***************************

    Looks like it’s official. Good FA pick-up. Now, let’s see a couple more

  199. Dakota Says:

    RFL,

    Bulger or Carr might beat Soup out for the #1 job lol.

  200. lefty12 Says:

    KK-I’m not sure I agree with it either.I’m just guessing by what HJ said about Gaither.

  201. priesttj Says:

    JB I respect your opinion man but DHB is lightyears closer to becoming a legit WR than he is a DB. Corner is one of the toughets jobs on defense especially in this defense it would take him 2-3 years by then he could be an all-pro rec. before he could be an NFL corner. Backpedally is muc tougher than you think covering another rec’r is a lot harder than you think. It takes years not months. He’s still learing to be a WR he started late in his career

  202. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    It really irritates me that Al Davis will reward certain players and/or draftees with large amounts of money before, or even after, they have proven their worth. Then they quickly proceed to stink it up.

    Its like they got the money and forgot who bestowed it upon them. But really Al has no one to blame but himself. It is a very sad situation. But hopefully Hue will take it upon himself to “instill” some kind of mind set for these clowns.

  203. priesttj Says:

    DHB has played WR a grand total of 5 years. Three in college 2 in the pros he’s still learning.

  204. Kirk Says:

    Sorry, Lefty, you are confusing me with someone else. I haven’t missed a game in ten years….including preseason.

  205. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
    HueJax is definitively running a different Raider Camp. No more of that wine country soft stuff.

    SAY YEAH

  206. priesttj Says:

    DavisFanRaiderfan LOL FYI it’s the way the system is designed man high draft picks get a lot of money. Just in case you hadn’t noticed.

  207. elboocho Says:

    Exactly, will be a great pick up if he is healthy, and hopefully the restructuring of Wimbley’s contract will free up more money to sign Cromartie and Miller.

  208. Kirk Says:

    Sorry, Priesttj, Murphy and Ford are much better receivers than DHB. You can’t teach quickness and coordination.

  209. Dakota Says:

    203.priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    DHB has played WR a grand total of 5 years. Three in college 2 in the pros he’s still learning.
    +++++++

    Wouldn’t be an issue had we drafted him in the 6th round as a project.

  210. lefty12 Says:

    JB,I believe CC was one of the top rated guards in the league last year,at least for run blocking.With better players on each side of him,he can do the job.However,even if he starts to start the season,I believe he could be replaced during the year by a more power guy.

  211. Raiders for life Says:

    199.Dakota Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
    RFL,

    Bulger or Carr might beat Soup out for the #1 job lol.

    ###################################

    Ouch, lets not go there. I will stand down now!!!!

  212. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    DHB has played WR a grand total of 5 years. Three in college 2 in the pros he’s still learning.

    ======================================

    Thats cool and alls good with that. But WHAT justified the large amount of first round money? Maybe Al was looking 5-7 years down the road? Aint he the guy that wants results yesterday? Just dont get it. The bad play by DHB outweighs the potential perhaps? Find me some highlites so I can change my tune.

  213. JB Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    JB I respect your opinion man but DHB is lightyears closer to becoming a legit WR than he is a DB. Corner is one of the toughets jobs on defense especially in this defense it would take him 2-3 years by then he could be an all-pro rec. before he could be an NFL corner. Backpedally is muc tougher than you think covering another rec’r is a lot harder than you think. It takes years not months. He’s still learing to be a WR he started late in his career
    *************************
    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    DHB has played WR a grand total of 5 years. Three in college 2 in the pros he’s still learning.
    **************************
    My suggestion was only in the event he didn’t come around this year as a WR. All your points are valid. I’m just suggesting that if we do get to the point of cutting him, I’d like to at least see him try to make it in another position. He’s a good character kid and has a good worth ethic. He’s got speed and size. It would be a shame to let those attributes walk without trying all alternatives.

  214. priesttj Says:

    Kirk Mr Davis was looking at film long before you were ever conceaved you must be NUTS!!

  215. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    DavisFanRaiderfan LOL FYI it’s the way the system is designed man high draft picks get a lot of money. Just in case you hadn’t noticed.

    ===================================

    I did notice, but that didnt make him 1st round material, he just got first round dollars.

  216. elboocho Says:

    Jenkins was released by the Falcons today! we pick him up and our over the middle option is fixed. I heard he forced the issue because the falcons drafted jones. This would be a great pick up.

  217. priesttj Says:

    JB most fans just don’t understand development DHB is very very young and his football IQ is just starting to take hold. The kid didn’t play football in highschool he ran track he started playing football his senior year in highschool and started playing WR in college that’s why he still doesn’t look narural.

  218. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    elboocho Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
    Jenkins was released by the Falcons today! we pick him up and our over the middle option is fixed. I heard he forced the issue because the falcons drafted jones. This would be a great pick up.

    =====================================

    We have a first round project and I doubt Al would force anymore competition on DHB. But hey, great thought and good luck getting thru to Al.

  219. priesttj Says:

    DHB was thought of by almost everyone as a 1st rndr contrary to popular belief. he as very highly rated by mot scouts and even if wqe didn’t atke him someone else would’ve in the 1st rnd.

  220. lefty12 Says:

    Why does everyone hold it against DHB that he was drafted so high,he didn’t draft himself?If Davis and the organization are willing to give the guy time to become the player they wish for,why does everyone want him gone?Some hate the guy,others don’t.Lets let it play out and see what happens.

  221. elboocho Says:

    As regards to DHB he needs to improve dramatically this year, but he does deserve the chance since he did come out as a sophmore. But if he does not improve the bust label will start to stick.

  222. DavisFanRaiderFan Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
    Why does everyone hold it against DHB that he was drafted so high,he didn’t draft himself?If Davis and the organization are willing to give the guy time to become the player they wish for,why does everyone want him gone?Some hate the guy,others don’t.Lets let it play out and see what happens.

    ======================
    great post, I dont hate they guy. just absolutely confounded by Al doing what he does. but yes, we will watch it play out.

  223. priesttj Says:

    Well your doubts are your own because no one goes wigthout competition that’s all camp is everyone’s job is up for grabs. Whether they like it or not. So believe what you want if DHB doesn’t deliver he wont play let alone start………..period

  224. JB Says:

    He has to show significant improvement this year. The clock is running out. He needs to be the legitimate #1, #2 or #3 WR this year. Ford is going to be a weapon this year and should be seeing a lot of playing time. If Schillins is finally healthy, he’ll be playing a lot too. Murphy will be #4. JLH is all but gone. We’ve got new rookies who might surprise us. And, if AD picks up a veteran WR, which I don’t think he will, the pressure will really be on DHB. I’m still a NMiller fan too and hope he gets more playing time in the slot.

  225. SilverNutSack Says:

    I ain’t even trippin’ bout Nnamdi… just glad that every time i was bout to buy his jersey I smoked up the money. DMAC at 220 is enough to keep my Raider libido strong.

  226. Kirk Says:

    Sorry, Priesttj, DHB was a terrible waste of a draft pick.

  227. priesttj Says:

    You guys need to wake up this is the NFL it’s not some freakin’ boy’s club where they play favorites they’re trying to win. The reason DHB works his ass off is because he saw what happened to Russell and it will happen to him there is no quarter you have to perform…………..period

  228. priesttj Says:

    Sorry Kirk you wouldn’t know your ass if you grabbed it.

  229. lefty12 Says:

    I really don’t understand statements like ‘until he(DHB) is cut we will never win’.What a bunch of crap.Now if someone had made that comment when a jerk like Sapp was here,I could understand that,but a young WR who could be 3,4,or 5 on the depth chart.Get serious.

  230. elboocho Says:

    How does this trade sound if we are unable to sign Miller. Michael Bush for Merceedes Lewis straight up. I personally believe Lewis is a better TE than Miller. lewis is faster, taller and blocks better period.

  231. priesttj Says:

    JB I already stated that he has to hold his own there will be no quarter. He has to show he belongs………….period

  232. priesttj Says:

    GUys unless you can get Payton Manning or Tom Brady we aint trading Michael Bush…………..period

  233. SilverNutSack Says:

    I am thrilled to hear that camp dancing nonsense is out with Cable… I can feel the energy Jacksons bringing all the way in enemy territory, here in KC. He’s got the green light from Davis and is going HARD!

  234. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,that is why it bothers me he isn’t practicing.Don’t know what is wrong with him but he isn’t helping himself or the team by watching practices.

  235. SilverNutSack Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I really don’t understand statements like ‘until he(DHB) is cut we will never win’.What a bunch of crap.Now if someone had made that comment when a jerk like Sapp was here,I could understand that,but a young WR who could be 3,4,or 5 on the depth chart.Get serious.

    ___________________

    Yeah, some people just have an excess of negative energy…

  236. Dakota Says:

    232.priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    GUys unless you can get Payton Manning or Tom Brady we aint trading Michael Bush…………..period
    ++++++++++++++++

    A day or two ago you predicted Bush might eventually get a $70 million dollar contract. Now he is so valuable only the return of a Brady or Manning could get him? Seriously Preist? Listen to yourself. You are talking about our backup RB.

  237. priesttj Says:

    If you understaood how fund of Bush Mr Davis is you wouldn’t even mention him in trades unless it was an absolute steal in our behalf. He LOVES bush teams have been trying to get that kid for 3 years and he wonrt budge.

  238. priesttj Says:

    Dakota You just don’t get it Mr D aint trading Bush everyone has inquired he wont do it.

  239. Dakota Says:

    237.priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    If you understaood how fund of Bush Mr Davis is you wouldn’t even mention him in trades unless it was an absolute steal in our behalf. He LOVES bush teams have been trying to get that kid for 3 years and he wonrt budge.
    +++++++++++++

    Well, when you put it in “crazy Al” terms it makes more sense.

  240. JB Says:

    Elboocho Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    How does this trade sound if we are unable to sign Miller. Michael Bush for Merceedes Lewis straight up. I personally believe Lewis is a better TE than Miller. lewis is faster, taller and blocks better period.
    **********************

    Sorry but I can’t agree. Bush is just too damned important to our running game. We can find a replacement for ZMiller if need be a lot easier than Finding a game breaking big back. We haven’t really seen our running game operate correctly. Al Saunders will show us a lot more Bush & I expect to see Tiawan Jones in the mix too. With the right O-line personnel in there we should have a devastating running game.

  241. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Veldheer moving to the right tackle position will be simple… Its alot easier to play the right side

  242. SilverNutSack Says:

    About a week ago DHB was working with Jason deep into the night, making cuts and stops by moonlight, driving himself harder, pumping his legs and…. he tweaked something.

  243. SilverNutSack Says:

    Give the kid a break.

  244. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12 That’s Mr D he wants that kid healthy, we’re worried about DHB they aint. I don’t know what’s wrong with him but I do know if it were some undrafted kis he would be practicing. Hue can’t get that kid hurt if he does it’ll cuase rancor.

  245. VanHeathen Says:

    I think DHB will be fine,
    but if he don

  246. Dakota Says:

    So far the only verified free agent acquisition the Raiders have made is the 37 year old (but looks 47 years old) G-ma cheerleader.

    Not a great start to the offseason.

  247. lefty12 Says:

    JB,I don’t know about the theory that it will be fairly easy to replace Zack.How long did we try to find an adequate TE before we drafted him?That being said,we just might have someone on the team right now who could be his replacement.I do believe though that Sanders likes to utilize the TE a lot.

  248. priesttj Says:

    JB I keep trying to tell these guys that Bush is a special back he aint some backup back like they think. That kid is so damn skilled it’s ridiculous.

  249. SilverNutSack Says:

    I remember us playing fairly well without #21 last season.. Generally, when we are playing well, our front 7 is kicking arse. When the front 7 is kicking arse it doesn’t matter much who is back there. When the front 7 isn’t playing well, we might notice stellar DB play more, but will ultimately lose those games anyways.

  250. VanHeathen Says:

    I think DHB will be fine,
    3rd yr is supposed to be big for a WR.
    He showed flashes last year,
    It’s time…
    Go Raiders

  251. Dakota Says:

    250.VanHeathen Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    I think DHB will be fine,
    3rd yr is supposed to be big for a WR.
    He showed flashes last year,
    It’s time…
    Go Raiders
    +++++++++++++++++++

    Well I hope so…..unfortunately you would be hard pressed to name a WR from DHBs draft class that has contributed less to his team in the past two years.

  252. lefty12 Says:

    LOL-people used to biotch and moan because Davis would throw money around at FAs and now they are complaining because he hasn’t.It could be the organization thinks what we have are as good or better than what is out there.

  253. hendu Says:

    TJ,I will pull for this young man,DHB,PERIOD!!Hoping he shuts up the niner fans on this blog,mr,mrs,etc RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  254. elboocho Says:

    Priest you need to take off those rose colored glasses. For one to even think Bush is as important to our team as Brady or Manning is to theirs is just plain idiotic. I would also like to know what makes Bush “special”. to me he is a better than average RB with below average speed. DMC is special Bush is just another good RB.

  255. SilverNutSack Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    JB I keep trying to tell these guys that Bush is a special back he aint some backup back like they think. That kid is so damn skilled it’s ridiculous.

    _______________

    Bush is good back, but sometimes I feel he hits the hole a little softer than i’d imagine he would, knowing his size… guess he’s a unique guy in that he is a huge back with a finesse skill-set…that’s not to say he doesn’t take his toll on defenses; he is a big strong dude. He doesn’t really look like he gives it all in the weight room though. I wonder what he could be if he was as fitness conscious as DMC..

  256. JB Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    JB,I don’t know about the theory that it will be fairly easy to replace Zack.How long did we try to find an adequate TE before we drafted him?That being said,we just might have someone on the team right now who could be his replacement.I do believe though that Sanders likes to ut
    *****************************
    Worst case move Marcel Reese to TE. The rookie David Ausberry is also a potential challenger for that position.

  257. SilverNutSack Says:

    I just have a great feeling about Jackson as head coach. He is gonna have this team foaming at the mouth, ready to run through walls and grandmothers. Can’t wait for the season to start!

  258. priesttj Says:

    Hendu I’m pulling for the kid too, I want to see him develope for the sake of the team. He has some sick talent he just needs to harness it, the game will eventually slow down for him that’s when playmaking becomes natural. He came in way too young and underdeveloped fans hate waiting on 1st rnd picks. I can understand why but sometimes it takes time. He aint the first he wont be the last.

  259. SilverNutSack Says:

    He is gonna be bringing other teams’ coaches to their knees with power squeezes when they meet at mid-field.

  260. JB Says:

    elboocho Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Priest you need to take off those rose colored glasses. For one to even think Bush is as important to our team as Brady or Manning is to theirs is just plain idiotic. I would also like to know what makes Bush “special”. to me he is a better than average RB with below average speed. DMC is special Bush is just another good RB.
    ***********************
    I’ve continually said the Bush has not been used correctly. I’m hoping Al Saunders realizes the abundance of running talent available to him and uses it correctly. If he does we’ll see a new Bush and DMAC will simply blow off the doors. We’ll also see our RB’s more involved in the passing game this year.

  261. elboocho Says:

    Leron Mcclain or Mike Tolbert would do just as well for our team as Bush does, and Mccalin is a better run and pass blocker than Bush.

  262. lefty12 Says:

    JB,I’m against moving Reese to TE,that would weaken 2 spots-FB and TE.Ausberry could very well be the guy in the future,but he played WR so his blocking probably needs improvement. I believe he’ll be a practice squad guy this year,although maybe Myers could be the blocking TE and Ausberry could come in in passing situations.

  263. priesttj Says:

    It may take David Ausberry a year but that kid is going to make us very proud.

  264. elboocho Says:

    JB, I too am excited to see what Ausberry can do at the TE positon, but I believe it will take him a year or two to transition for WR to TE unless he is special. let’s hope he is.

  265. SilverNutSack Says:

    Even with JC’s flaws, he has a lot of attributes which are favorable to us… and I think his biggest problem is confidence (along with DHB). Who better to help these guys work through confidence issues than Coach Jackson. Now, when you have Lord Davis deftly raising a finger or an eyebrow to this and that, giving his invaluable SUGGESTIONS and inspiring rhetoric… AHHHHHHH… how blessed we are to have been born of the black!

  266. SilverNutSack Says:

    that’s the special sauce that squeezed and squirted into championships… just win baby!

  267. priesttj Says:

    Bush is not a FB man, McClain is……you guys just don’t understand what kind of player Bush is. Bush is a very rare back, very very rare. If DMC were not here he would be a perrenial all-pro. He beat out DMC in preseason last year and got hurt or he rushes for over a grand and maybe leads the league in TD’s.

  268. SilverNutSack Says:

    yeah.. I have my hopes about that pair of TEs we grabbed. The biggest thing will be how them boys get after it blocking

  269. JB Says:

    Tony Richardson (FB) from the Jets may be available cheaply this year. Just saying…

    I’m not yet convinced that ZMiller is the same player he was before last year’s foot injury. Just hope I’m wrong.

  270. SilverNutSack Says:

    What if he was a fullback who we handed the ball off to nearly as much as the running back… would that be to wearing on him? Maybe I play too much Madden, but I would love to see them on the field together more often. I really dig this Taiwan fella as well… We should get to see a whole lot of him in pre-season!

  271. SilverNutSack Says:

    then again, I also want to see quite a few three WR sets… so many toys…

  272. lefty12 Says:

    Why are so many so anxious to replace Zack?He has been our most reliable and consistent offensive weapon since he was drafted.

  273. Dakota Says:

    272.lefty12 Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    Why are so many so anxious to replace Zack?He has been our most reliable and consistent offensive weapon since he was drafted.
    __________

    WORD

  274. SilverNutSack Says:

    Taiwan comes out of the backfield in motion to the right, flanked by Chad and Louis with TJ lined wide left… the ball is snapped, Taiwan winding back for the reverse, NO! its a double reverse! Ford makes a cut, breaks to the outside and he is free down the sideline… there’s not a man on the planet who could catch him now.. look at him go!! woah!! what a nasty block laid by the young Wiz on that one.. Yeah, Papa, the safety didn’t see him coming and really got walloped!

  275. JB Says:

    Lefty 12

    ZMiller is an issue up until the point he’s locked in and is no longer the issue.

  276. SilverNutSack Says:

    double word

  277. KoolKell Says:

    I wish Nnamdi well. I met him couple of times, very classy guy.

    Al made up his mind he was going a different way. But I would rather have payed Nnamdi than Routt.

    Moving on………………..

  278. KoolKell Says:

    HueJax is a spirited guy, the Raiders will be too. They’ve been missing that.

  279. Dakota Says:

    Breaking News:

    There is no news.

  280. lefty12 Says:

    JB,I understand that,but a lot of people on here either want him replaced or act as if he leaves it is no big deal,we can pick up any castoff to take his place.I’ll ask again,how long were we looking for an adequate TE before we drafted him?The answer is a hell of a long time.

  281. SilverNutSack Says:

    Routt needed the money more.

  282. SilverNutSack Says:

    Yeah, unless there is a serious medical problem we don;t know about we’ve gotta re-sign Miller.

  283. elboocho Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
    I wish Nnamdi well. I met him couple of times, very classy guy.

    Al made up his mind he was going a different way. But I would rather have payed Nnamdi than Routt.

    Moving on………………..
    ————————————————-

    Not for 25Mil guaranteed. Philly are fools, they needed help at d-line but got a CB when they just got one!!! good luck Namdi hope you like the famous Philly fans and weather.

  284. SilverNutSack Says:

    Yeah we have seen what having a good secondary and weak front does…

  285. plataynegro Says:

    The article from Bill Williamson doesn’t really make sense to me. Are you telling me that Routt is going to be MORE tested now that Nnamdi is gone? Nnamdi has only had just over 50 passes thrown his way in the last 3 years!!!!

    I think it will even things out a little, and Routt may actually see less passes his way. And he usually did face a teams #1 because they knew Nnamdi was gonna stay on the right side. By no means am I glad Nnamdi is gone, but I don’t think it is gonna kill Routt with all this extra work that some are talking about. We just need a solid pass rush and it will erase a lot of mistakes in the defensive backfield!

  286. elboocho Says:

    I will say it again….. trade Bush for Lewis. Then priests hypotheticals can play out…… oh wait they got little hercules, but bush should beat him out hands down. Right priest?

  287. SilverNutSack Says:

    We gotta wait to see what we have with Taiwan before we even think about trading Ser Bush

  288. lefty12 Says:

    The weakness of our def. has been our LBs.Hopefully with McClain having a year under his belt and better play by our outside guys,we will shore up the run D.The pass D should be fine.

  289. SilverNutSack Says:

    Yeah, I don’t understand why so many people are so low on McClain… I think he is gonna be a stud… maybe even the head stud in charge of the locker room proceedings…

  290. SilverNutSack Says:

    Laying crunching hits, swatting passes, directing shower traffic with a firm finger and a stony gaze…

  291. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Jerry Mcdonald said Bruce Campbell was Icing down his knee after practice…. Also said its 1 of the most physical camps he has seen in years without pads and that he has never seen a O-Line Coach have such a hands on approach as much as Old Wisniewski does

  292. SilverNutSack Says:

    Go McClain!

  293. SilverNutSack Says:

    oh man… imagining the great Wisniewski mentoring these pups is one of my chief sources of pleasure these days… I wonder how Biekert is handling those backers?

  294. SilverNutSack Says:

    The old Wiz makes the Raiders the only team with a coach who can still whoop any players a$$ if they get out of line… that is a man’s man’s man’s man’s MAN!

  295. SilverNutSack Says:

    I think Jerry is sad that his articles aren’t garnering any comments now… he probably half expected the people here to follow him and leave sweet messages encouraging him in his new gig… i almost feel bad.

  296. ppleschamp030 Says:

    sound like coach jackson is putting his mark on this team. i meet him over the offseason. his intensity is who he is.

  297. SilverNutSack Says:

    yeah he is marking his territory with some fresh, lively juice. Hell, we can smell it here in KC.

  298. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Should the Raiders sign Floyd or make a reasonable trade for Garcon, Wayne, Armstrong, or another solid WR; I would be okay with letting Zach go!

    Hue & Al could be looking at what we have in Gordon & Ausberry before committing to Zach.

  299. SilverNutSack Says:

    Didn’t we just rub KC’s face in the dirt that last game? I still remember big John Henderson steam rolling Charles… looked like he bout’ killed him. We took the juice out that team.. without #21, we beasted them…

  300. SilverNutSack Says:

    True… they better do some speedy evaluating. I have a feeling our WRs are gonna be up to snuff this season… Nicky Miller was working with Fitz for a good while… he should have picked up some nuances there but maybe he dont wanna share them with everybody, i dunno. It should be much different than last year… QB been working with em’ for awhile now and if we bring in someone else that will take snaps away from our young guys. They are supposed to arrive around year 3… sooooo, according to average progression they should be making a pretty big leap this year…
    I say, have faith.

  301. armond Says:

    i would like to get malcom floyd cuz he is a big athletic monster who takes the ball out of the air. greg papa said on chronicle live that zmiller and the raiders are negotiating a contract now. bush is restricted so the raiders dont have to get him right away. wimbley has to get his deal done and we may be retsructuring other deals.

  302. Dhidee99 Says:

    No one has said it yet I will, I’m very happy we did not re sign Namdi! We would have over spent for a 30 something DB forreal he aint no primetime who could change the outcome of a game at any moment when he was on the field. Aso is more like Eneilus Williams Great Db and thats it no thrills and not worth 60 million for 5 years good work Al Davis on not falling in on that Scam the rest of the NFL was in on. Andy Reid is crowned A genuis way too easy where the Rings at? Al got three rings A real Genius. I bet he wins one more before he kicks the bucket.

  303. armond Says:

    interesting that papa also mentioned huff when he said zmiller’s contract. just cuz we havent been active yet doesnt mean we wont. hue said we are talking to everybody and i assume they are looking for the right fit. this is what yall said we shouldve done years ago and now some of yall biotchin.

  304. armond Says:

    bush is a special back. he can catch and run. he blocks well and is underused. he also is capable of getting 100 yards with ease. when he plays its still feels like the starter is in. there isnt a dropoff when he enters the game just a different style.

  305. SilverNutSack Says:

    I think Chaz can be that same monster as well… and Murphy can certainly be a 1000 yard guy… Ford will show up, DHB will be better, not to mention our rookie who looks promising… If we could get Floyd at a bargain price, why not, i suppose… but don’t pay out the ass, cuz he’s 30 and we prolly won’t be super bowl ready this year anyways… let our men develop.

  306. SilverNutSack Says:

    bush averaged 4.1 ypc with a long of 30… the fact that he can catch makes him a very good back, but I’m not convinced he is special… I don’t think he takes his conditioning seriously enough to be special at this point.

  307. SilverNutSack Says:

    he does have a lot of talent, no doubt.

  308. SilverNutSack Says:

    He’s a guy who relies almost completely on God given ability… who knows how beastly he could be if he worked out like DMC… but will he?

  309. SilverNutSack Says:

    I dunno… I just have a good feeling about our young wide receivers… I mean, the savvy vet mentor would have been great to have a couple years ago… at this point, I say lets ride with what we got.

  310. ohioraider Says:

    9.severeraiderz Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    Asomugha leaving makes room for the young guys to play….hw apparently didn’t want to be here

    ————————-
    Attention! Attention! Paging Mr. Master of the Obvious.

  311. ohioraider Says:

    202.DavisFanRaiderFan Says:
    July 29th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    It really irritates me that Al Davis will reward certain players and/or draftees with large amounts of money before, or even after, they have proven their worth. Then they quickly proceed to stink it up.

    Its like they got the money and forgot who bestowed it upon them. But really Al has no one to blame but himself. It is a very sad situation. But hopefully Hue will take it upon himself to “instill” some kind of mind set for these clowns.

    ——————————————-
    What do you mean “Its like they got the money and forgot who bestowed it upon them.” You think they “stink it up” because they’re ungrateful? They stink it up because the Old Creeper misjudged their talent AND overpaid them. Who wouldn’t take the money?

  312. Teflon30 Says:

    Nnmandi had 8 interceptions in 2006, and 4 interceptions over the the past four seasons. I’m sorry but the guy doesnt make enough plays to be considered an elite cornerback. The dude was all hype, good dude, but all hype. Let’s not forget even last year he got burned by Fitzgerald in Arizona for the deciding touchdown; he gave up over 200yds receiving to Nanee on the Chargers & he can’t tackle. I’ll take my chances with the new guys, who actually want to be here. GO RAIDERS !!!

  313. DKnight007 Says:

    Nnamdi doesn’t get thrown to enough to make big plays….other teams are afraid to throw in his direction.

    Nnamdi is the best CB in the league…period…end of story!

  314. DKnight007 Says:

    He didn’t want to hear and the old man should have known this last year and traded him!!

  315. DKnight007 Says:

    Raiders should sign Channing Crowder and plug him in as the starting WILL LB!!

    He has energy, strength, and can tackle and pursue. He brings some nastiness also.

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