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TE Miller not a hot commodity

By Steve Corkran
Saturday, July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 am in Oakland Raiders.

Perhaps it’s because not many teams have a burning need to add a tight end. Maybe his asking price is too high, or teams are leery of his injury history. Whatever the reason, tight end Zach Miller has not been as hot a commodity on the free agent market despite his impressive resume in four seasons with the Raiders.

Someone from the Miller camp said he is surprised that there haven’t been many teams willing to offer him a huge contract. That person also said that he remains hopeful that once teams address more-pressing needs, that Miller will generate plenty of interest.

This comes as welcome news for the Raiders, of course., They want Miller back, by all accounts, and they need him back in their offense. He was their leading receiver each of the past three seasons and someone who takes pressure off everyone else because of his dependability and consistency.

The Raiders are working on a long-term deal with linebacker Kamerion Wimbley that would free up some much needed salary-cap room. Wimbley’s agent and the Raiders have exchanged figures, and they are tyring to finalize a deal that would get the Raiders out from under the $11.3 million cap liability that comes from the franchise tag offer that Wimbley signed.

Miller has heard from numerous Raiders, including quarterback Jason Campbell.

“Yeah, I text (free agents) and everything, let them know we need them and want them back,” Campbell said.

Without Miller, the Raiders are rather thin at tight end. Veteran Brandon Myers is the No. 1 tight end in Miller’s absence, but he has spent his entire career as a backup and special teams player. Rookies Richard Gordon and David Ausberry can’t be counted upon to fill Miller’s void anytime soon.

In the meantime, Miller sits and waits for an offer to come that rewards him with the kind of compensation commensurate with his play the past four seasons. Don’t be surprised if the best offer winds up coming from the Raiders.

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324 Responses to “TE Miller not a hot commodity”

  1. A.B. Paine III Says:

    From Bucs Chat:

    would you trade for Darrius Heyward-Bey
    would u give up a fifth for him… we have good rec. but not a burner!!!

    they say he sorry in oakland and he can’t cathc idk bout that i think if he comes here we will feel comfortable becuz he wnt be asked to do so much.. with freeman’s arm he could be a huge weapon with spot duty.. he still young and our rec. coach and rec. core will make him feel comfortable…

  2. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Thanks for waking up and giving us that wonderful insight Mr. Corkran.

  3. J Hill Says:

    Corkran is spitting out WAY more stuff than Jerruh did. Haven’t seen a thread top 1000 posts yet, lol.

  4. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    He is slow as molasses and he has a soft dome.

  5. J Hill Says:

    Someone from the Miller camp said he is surprised that there haven’t been many teams willing to offer him a huge contract.

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    Should’ve taken the Raiders intial offer before the lockout.

  6. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Someone on the Bucs chat called DHB Darrius Rucker Bey.

  7. priesttj Says:

    What did Miller expect? He’s not Gates he’s good but not great he will get offers but it aint going to be what he thinks. I think he needs to have a great uear first he’s had good ones but nothing that stands out as sensational. It shouldn’t have come as a shock to him.

  8. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I just realized raiders.com had no picture of Nnamdi on it after the lockout. Rolando and Seymour are the defensive players.

  9. 89052RAIDER Says:

    ‘Al should trade DHB to the bucs for a “handy” from one of their former chearleaders, preferably Kiffins wife. That would be more than fair compensation.

  10. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Al should trade DBH to the Trojans for Kiffin’s wife.

  11. priesttj Says:

    I think Zack would be wise to come back and protect his job here because I’m telling ya’ this kid Ausberry will take it. “A bird in the hand”

  12. HairyBush Says:

    Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
    Eagles announce signing of Johnnie Lee Higgins . . .

  13. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Miller was also in the unique situation of playing two years with #1 WR impostor on the field, or in essence one less Wr so he got more targets than he would have anywhere else.

  14. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I can’t believe we lost Johnie Lee Higgins too. We are screwed.

  15. armond Says:

    im sorry but seeing that lil punk get all this media attention is going to make me sick when we couldve robbed the jets for him last year. u think we couldnt have used a 1rst rndr this year? we couldve have gotten 1 of those bomb azz dlineman or jimmy smith maybe. not to mention a few more mid rnd draft picks which would have given us more options. u dont let that guy walk for nothing. fuk nnamdi for sayin he wants to stay and bounce. this is why seymour is more vauluble. he wants to lead this team in just 2 years of being here and nnamdi never would. thats why im not that mad about him leavin. i just hate getting a fuggin 3rd rnd comp pick for him. davis better stop bein so loyal and stupid. its a new generation he needs to catch up with. the days of hand shake deals are done.

  16. DKnight007 Says:

    This “thanking the fans” stuff is just spin control, with the recent loss of Nnamdi and not getting anything in return for him.

    Ridiculous.

    They better WIN the first two games of the season this year, or they will be in trouble early!

  17. 89052RAIDER Says:

    A.B. writes :Al should trade DBH to the Trojans for Kiffin’s wife.

    LMAO!!!!

  18. priesttj Says:

    If the Raiders were to tarde DHB at this point he wouldn’t bring much worth talking about they have to hope he plays better this year then take a look. At this point his contract is a nonfactor.

  19. DKnight007 Says:

    It doesn’t matter.

    At least if the Raiders end up regressing this year from what was accomplished last year and sucking again, they will get a chance at a good QB prospect in Luck or Barkley and not have to break the bank for them with the new CBA.

  20. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Priest, what did you see of Ausberry in College that made you think that he’ll be more productive as a Pro than Zach Miller?

  21. A.B. Paine III Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Raiders cut DHB by the end of training camp.

  22. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    It doesn’t matter.

    At least if the Raiders end up regressing this year from what was accomplished last year and sucking again, they will get a chance at a good QB prospect in Luck
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is true and Luck would be worth the wait.

  23. Thec07 Says:

    ZMILLER is a good player but if it came down to him or Malcolm Floyd, I taking Floyd…

  24. armond Says:

    miller is a very good te but not a standout. he’s dropped a few passes for 2 years now.his blocking fell off last year and there are 2 many te’s that stretch the field now. those 2 studs in NE are what teams are lookin for. and dont even get me started on jermichael finley.

  25. Favre Sightings Says:

    The Raiders let walk the HOTTEST dude in the FA market and couldn’t even get nothing for him before the sh’t came down. Just walk baby.

    Get over it!

  26. Favre Sightings Says:

    Rumor mill:

    Favre signs with Oakland, gets 5 yr. / 60.5 mil

  27. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Ravens signed former Raider Chris Carr, if anyone cares.

  28. Favre Sightings Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:08 am
    This “thanking the fans” stuff is just spin control, with the recent loss of Nnamdi and not getting anything in return for him.

    Ridiculous.

    They better WIN the first two games of the season this year, or they will be in trouble early!

    =========================================

    At least the front office is busy. Nice to see Al taking part in spin control. I cant recall that ever happening.

  29. inonewordraider Says:

    If we get a top vet receiver I’d trade DHB regardless of his potential because we have a burner in Ford and Murphy and Chaz are better receivers than him as well

  30. Favre Sightings Says:

    In the meantime, Miller sits and waits for an offer to come that rewards him with the kind of compensation commensurate with his play the past four seasons. Don’t be surprised if the best offer winds up coming from the Raiders.

    ————————————

    One can only hope that will be the case. Hope Zach doesn’t feel bitter about that, just sayin………….

  31. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Good Morning Steve….good to see your awake!

  32. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Agree with #23!

  33. inonewordraider Says:

    Al get us a vet TE (ZMiller, Alge Crumper or Todd Heap)

    A vet WR (Floyd, Edwards, TO, RMoss, SSmith, Mason)

    a DT for depth (Big John won’t make it through the season)

    and we’re in the playoffs

    Cromartie would be a nice throw in as well

  34. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    How long are you going to continue with the lame Farve joke?

    It is not going to get funnier.

  35. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I agree with 23.

  36. J-Raider Says:

    Hello fella’s… raider fan from Ky here. Been following this website and your comments for years now, thought i would join ya.

  37. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Someone from the Miller camp said he is surprised that there haven’t been many teams willing to offer him a huge contract.

    **********************************

    Wasn’t Zack Miller our union representative??

    Can’t bite the hand that feeds you!!!

  38. SilverNutSack Says:

    I would take Miller over Floyd… Floyd would be taking snaps away from our young wide receivers who are poised to break out, whereas Miller fills an empty position.. We have already toughed out the most difficult part of these receiver’s development, why stop now?

  39. Silver and Black Balls Says:

    Outside of promoting unproven Hue to head coach, what have the Raiders done to improve? Where have they gotten better? And rookies dont count. What has Al done to improve? I don’t care if he axed Cable, who did improve the team, or let the best CB in football walk, just where will we be better?

  40. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Kiffin’s wife is homely.

  41. CuzImaRaider Says:

    This post from Steve is weak, smells of stale garbage. I mean this is the age of information, phuckin give us something we already didn’t know!

  42. J-Raider Says:

    watched a film of hue-jack on raiders.com yeaterday giving comments to the media, when he spoke of the recievers he never mentioned DHB.. thought it was strange. he only mentioned Ford, Murph, and Glass.. i think it was day 2 of training camp video..

  43. RaiderRetribution Says:

    who on earth is Mr. Cody Habben Raiders just signed this OT; is he an UDFA or another teams free agent?

  44. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jerry cashed out his hand on us.

    He went from the days of the gummi bear lady as the prime advertiser, to having McDonalds sponsor his live chat.

    It’s only down-hill from here fellers.

  45. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    J-Raider, nice to join us…

    Just in case you don’t already know…ignore KooKooKell and you’ll be alright!

    ;)

  46. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I completely agree with #23 & #32

  47. CaliRaider Says:

    Just want to join the blog and say hi to everyone. Great blog keep up the good work Jer.
    Hope Al gets favre, he will be a great addition to the Raiders.

  48. RaiderRetribution Says:

    do not listen to koolkell or raidermick

  49. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I’m a republican and I do not listen to koolkell

  50. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear.

  51. J-Raider Says:

    Favre looked HORRIBLE last year.. the guy is DONE!!! he even had Harvin AND Rice to throw to.. No thank you!

  52. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Lane Kiffen is really Tosh.0

  53. RaiderRetribution Says:

    NFLP Union recertified!

  54. CaliRaider Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am
    who on earth is Mr. Cody Habben Raiders just signed this OT; is he an UDFA or another teams free agent?

    —————–

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=75367&draftyear=2011&genpos=OT

  55. A.B. Paine III Says:

    RaiderRetribution, this is Cody Habben:

    http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/CODYHABBEN1_26150.JPG

  56. inonewordraider Says:

    J-Raider Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am
    watched a film of hue-jack on raiders.com yeaterday giving comments to the media, when he spoke of the recievers he never mentioned DHB.. thought it was strange. he only mentioned Ford, Murph, and Glass.. i think it was day 2 of training camp video..

    He’s nicked up hopefully that’s why no mention

  57. SilverNutSack Says:

    Also, keep in mind Floyd had Antonio Gates distracting the defense and Rivers tossing the rock… He might not be the upgrade you are imagining… So, you wanna bring him in with no Zach Miller to draw coverage? Miller has always produced REGARDLESS of our QB situation.. I think that says a lot.

  58. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Al wrote this post.

  59. armond Says:

    i take it that dhb isnt afavorite of hue jacksons. he better get his act 2gether.

  60. inonewordraider Says:

    CaliRaider Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am
    Just want to join the blog and say hi to everyone. Great blog keep up the good work Jer.
    Hope Al gets favre, he will be a great addition to the Raiders.

    Jerry Mcdonald no longer writes for the Blog it’s Steve Corkran now

  61. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think Miller gets re-signed until Kamerion gets restructured.

    Screwing over Bush is next for Al.

  62. J-Raider Says:

    @ 56. hue-jack was talking about this comming season, not practice..

  63. CaliRaider Says:

    KoolKell for State Congressman. Elect him so he will be to busy to spew hate on this blog. And he can take his intern MR and there will be peace again. Out…………..

  64. SilverNutSack Says:

    plus Zach Miller is 4 years younger! Think again yall…

  65. Master Beeecham Says:

    Nerds, we’ve been celebrating the possible Gaither signing all morning, my ladies are whipping up eggs benny in stars n strips bikinins and I’m tapping another Coors Light Party Ball.

    Probably going to smoke a sweet blunt on my beanbag and watch Weekend at Bernie’s.

    Later we’ll be heading over to Islands for a few Big Wave burgers and some under the table hanky panky. I usually pretend to spill a few Island Fries so I can get a quick peek at the waitress’s cooters.

    I’m hoping to hire Krappy for $3 an hour to work my Reggae Party Cruise tonight, thinking about making the old goat do the Charleston across the dance floor then throw out his hip for my customer’s amusement.

    GO BIG OR GO GREEK, HUMMOS STYLE HOMIES

  66. priesttj Says:

    RFaiderzmaverick, I saw the same ything I saw with Marcel Reece a big fast guy who was underutilized. Due to injuries and personnel he never reached the potential he came in with. For some reason none of uSC’s rec’s have been very productive in recent years. I don’t know why but Ausberry would be standing on the sideline and they would be struglling to score. But when they used him properly he was very effective.

    I just think he would be a more natural TE than WR because he was just way to big for WR which requires quickness and quick cuts. TE routes are much much easier they just run underneath the safties and between the LB’s and sit in windows it’s nearly as intricate routes. He can use his big body much more effectively IMO. But he has to chnage the wya he thinks he now has to look to be more physical than athletic. A lot of his routes will be short option routes between LB’s and down the seam. He has to learn to use the defense against itself.

  67. inonewordraider Says:

    SilverNutSack Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    Also, keep in mind Floyd had Antonio Gates distracting the defense and Rivers tossing the rock… He might not be the upgrade you are imagining… So, you wanna bring him in with no Zach Miller to draw coverage? Miller has always produced REGARDLESS of our QB situation.. I think that says a lot.

    My Question is Zachs health. Also don’t like guys who finally make a splash during a contract year. However Malcom laid our for some spectacular catches against us is young and is healthy so he’d be our #1 receiver taking pressure off of Ford and ZMiller who will be our tight end

  68. YoungAmerican Says:

    Let’s pump the brakes on the Malcolm Floyd > Zach Miller thing.

    Floyd has just as long of an injury history as Miller, if not longer.

    Floyd was also unable to ever really establish himself as a #1 or even #2 option for the Chargers.

    Also, Phillip Rivers has a away of making any WR look good. Miller has looked good even with JaMarcus throwing to him.

  69. J-Raider Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Coach-Jackson-07-29-11/da3a2472-722e-4545-bbb2-1ddf7f7ec9b8
    this is the video link..

  70. Big Balls Says:

    armond Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 am
    i take it that dhb isnt afavorite of hue jacksons. he better get his act 2gether.

    ========================================

    So how will Uncle Al take this if Hue just keeps DHB benched or doesn’t want his high prized first rounder, sorta like the Cable/JR thing. Whats gonna happen when Hue dont want to play the guy.

  71. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I have never seen much point in getting heavy with stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don’t bother me.

  72. priesttj Says:

    It’ll take Ausberry roughly a year to really understand how to play that position because he has to know when to sit down. He has to give Camp a target immediately to be successful.

  73. inonewordraider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    RFaiderzmaverick, I saw the same ything I saw with Marcel Reece a big fast guy who was underutilized. Due to injuries and personnel he never reached the potential he came in with. For some reason none of uSC’s rec’s have been very productive in recent years. I don’t know why but Ausberry would be standing on the sideline and they would be struglling to score. But when they used him properly he was very effective.

    I just think he would be a more natural TE than WR because he was just way to big for WR which requires quickness and quick cuts. TE routes are much much easier they just run underneath the safties and between the LB’s and sit in windows it’s nearly as intricate routes. He can use his big body much more effectively IMO. But he has to chnage the wya he thinks he now has to look to be more physical than athletic. A lot of his routes will be short option routes between LB’s and down the seam. He has to learn to use the defense against itself.

    Steve Smith for his carreer and Mike Williams finally have been solid

  74. Lynn from Snot Says:

    This is what we have without Miller http://yfrog.com/h0c0zkbj

  75. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Zach has squash rot. Plain and simple. I don’t think we should over pay a guy that is one hit shy of having his brains turn into oatmeal.

  76. priesttj Says:

    Campbell made Miller look pretty good last year, he made his first probowl and he missed a lot of snaps. A full year with Camp healthy he could easily go for 80+ cathces 900+ yards and 8 TD’s. That’s conservative.

  77. plataynegro Says:

    I normally don’t say much about how Al spends his money, but damn! If he was smarter with some of these ridiculous contracts we would be able to KEEP our guys that we develop. Nothing is worse than seeing a guy drafted here, develop over time, then bolt when he is ready to take a step to the next level!

    If you ask me, Lechler and SeaBass need to restructure, how much does a kicker and punter think they need. Especially if they want to play for a winner!

  78. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:35 am
    do not listen to koolkell or raidermick

    ——

    Im r8eray and approve this message!

  79. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Can’t catch any passes on the IR.

  80. SilverNutSack Says:

    Inonewordraider:

    If we can get him and keep Miller I’d have be ok with it… It would bother me a little that our other receivers would be losing snaps though. I feel like these guys are ready to bust onto the scene as a really solid group this year, especially is chaz can stay with us.

  81. Thec07 Says:

    I love the idea of giving our young WR the opportunity to shine however, If we have a chance to add a quality WR to our mix of young talent I welcome that. Who on our current Roster is a No. 1?

    Post 38, Floyd would not be taking snaps away, what he would be doing is adding a No 1 WR to our exisitn receiving core. Furthermore, adding quality depth to our team.

    Floyd better value than ZMIllER in my opinion…

  82. SilverNutSack Says:

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Zach has squash rot. Plain and simple. I don’t think we should over pay a guy that is one hit shy of having his brains turn into oatmeal.

    _____________________________________

    Source?

  83. severeraiderz Says:

    Jared Gaithet is only 25….he could be the tackle to solidify the left side for the next decade. Imagine him at LT and Veldheer at RT with Evil dead at the LG spot wiz, at C and a new RG possibly Barksdale or Satele, who is great at getting to the second level and pulling. That line would be great in the pass and the run game.

  84. J Hill Says:

    A LOT of good “second tier” FAs out there.

    With us being 50 million over the cap, yeah we have to get the Wimbley deal restructured so we can sign someone.

    Again, my question is who do we sign?

    Should we give Braylon Edwards 10 million a year?

    Cromartie 10 million????

    Maybe we should’ve made Weddle the highest paid S in the league instead of the Chargers?

    I know, I know. We should’ve traded CJ37 and a 2nd rd pick to Philly for Kolb so we could’ve piad him 60 million?

  85. SilverNutSack Says:

    I dunno… I just have a good feeling about this Moore kid, and I haven’t completely given up on DHB… I’m sold on Chaz (barring health), Murphy, and Ford, even hopefull Nick Miller can surprise after spending the off-season working out with Fitzgerald… These guys are poised to make a big step forward, so I say, have faith.

  86. RaiderRetribution Says:

    re: Mr. Bush > Raiders resign him at his first round tender or we another get another teams first round draft choice.

    either way Raiders come out ahead.

    I think Al is giving Michael and his agent until Aug 4th to sign a contract, with us or someone else.

    this will be Bush’s contract year so you know he is going to play his butt off.

  87. Thec07 Says:

    So when Floyd torched the Raiders Secondary for 218 yards and 1 td in 1 game that was all rivers ???

  88. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    A man who has blown all his options can’t afford the luxury of changing his ways. He has to capitalize on whatever he has left, and he can’t afford to admit — no matter how often he’s reminded of it — that every day of his life takes him farther and farther down a blind alley.

  89. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders need to sign Gaither & Waters, resign Mr. Satele for depth.

  90. severeraiderz Says:

    If he is still a free agent I would much rather have Marcedes Lewis than Zach Miller. He is better in the red zone in the passing game and a much better blocker. Has the type of speed and length to be a dangerous weapon from the TE position.

  91. RaiderRetribution Says:

    well we do know we will be able to resign Mr. Huff, Mr. Satele, Mr. Barnes, at league minimums and they are going to have to play better to get better contracts next off season.

  92. RaiderRetribution Says:

    should Al & Mr. Wimbley not come to an agreement to restructure, what are the Raiders options to get under cap to sign more players.

  93. Thec07 Says:

    Post 89…..Yep
    Post 90…. Yep

  94. priesttj Says:

    Malcolm Floyd is a helluva rec’r IMO. I’d take that kid over a lot of these guys Chad incuded. And have no problem paying him.

  95. Just Win Baby Says:

    A concussion prone TE will not be a hot commodity. I agree. The TE makes a lot of catches in places where he is gonna get hammered on. He is a risky proposition. He is one or two hits from sitting in a helmet all the time.

  96. RaiderRetribution Says:

    according to Clayton the Dolphins are interested in Z.

  97. priesttj Says:

    I agree with Mercedes over Zack I think that would an upgrade. Lewis is very talented. I’ll take either but if we had the choice I’d take Lewis.

  98. Thec07 Says:

    Post 94, one of the OG vets on the board YEP…

  99. Thec07 Says:

    What’s Lewis status is he a FA?

  100. Deja vu Says:

    My bad! I threw out the idea of grabbing M. Lewis on the last post. I should have googled it before i threw that out there. He’s not a free agent… He didn’t report to camp, so thought he was available. He was franchised and waiting on a deal.

    He’s a local guy though. Too bad we couldn’t swap him for Z.Miller or send DHB, N. Miller and the 37 y/o Raiderette down there for him.

  101. Dakota Says:

    The Raiders are working on a long-term deal with linebacker Kamerion Wimbley that would free up some much needed salary-cap room.

    +++++++++++++

    I thought we already were $35 million under the cap? Jhill, did you forget to carry the 1 on your calculations?

  102. Thec07 Says:

    ZMILLER does have the numbers however, if we can upgrade the position that add value to the team…
    I am not emotionally attached to ZMILL..

  103. armond Says:

    rivers doesnt make floyd look good. floyd allows rivers to be a little reckless down the field cuz he will go get the ball. the dude is open even when he is covered. our wr’s could learn alot from him.

  104. omniscience Says:

    everyone starting to make sence now Al cant sign players if you have no free money? lucky he signed who he did before the lock out or we would really be in trouble lets see we lost Gallery, T Howard and Aso so far really do we need these guys Aso ok but he was here 8 years made Pro Bowl last 3 last year on name not peformance Al drafted 4 corners last 2 years Rod Woodsen will whip up into players like he did Aso

  105. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Who ever was throwing nick names around for J Ford I ran accross this today.
    Ford Raider (1985–1998) (Australia and New Zealand, a rebadged Mazda Proceed Marvie)

    A few others.
    Ford Marauder (2003–2004, Canada)
    Ford Maverick (1970–1977, North America; 1988–1998, Australia;
    Ford Meteor (1981–1985, Australia; 1986–1995, South Africa)
    Ford Laser (1980–2003, Australia & New Zealand)
    Ford Pilot (1947–1951, UK

  106. omniscience Says:

    If we get Gathier fills a need

  107. severeraiderz Says:

    Thec

    Last I heard Lewis was a UFA. He’s like 6′6″ 270 and is only a year older than Zach. Was a beast at UCLA and after a slow start to his NFL career, really came on string last year. CA not stress enough what an upgrade he is in the red zone, also a much better blocker than Zach, especially last year because Zachs blocking really fell off

  108. Deja vu Says:

    It looks like in one of the photos on the Raiders website of practice, Rod Woodson lifting weights with the players. Could you imagine Cable out there trying to do some squats!

  109. Thec07 Says:

    Armond, on point with that last post Bruh… Watched all the SD games for years common them among most WR for the chargers is that they are all tall big and fast. Riverd throws up a lot of lame ducks and the wides bail him out. Btw fck rivers…

  110. severeraiderz Says:

    Damn just read he was franchised

  111. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    That’s why they didnt want two a days. They had to carry Cable out to the field.

  112. priesttj Says:

    I think this new CBA is showing it’s affects on the market the cap must be a hard cap and the laugage must be more difficult to navigate when considering FA’s. Because I thought Nnamdi would get maybe 4-5 Mill more than he got. Also as much as we are seing some movement. It’s down somewhat from most years it’s jus that some teams are doing a lot but most teams are doing nothing.

  113. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Eagles are already receiving trade inquiries about Asante Samuel.

    NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi reported late Friday that the Eagles would field all offers. Samuel’s agent, Alonza Shavers, has also been outspokenly against his client moving into a third cornerback role following the offseason additions of Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Because Samuel’s salaries are so pricey, it will be difficult to get a high pick back.

  114. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol dam Deja vu beat me to it smh….I’m reacting slower than Michael Huff in coverage smh

  115. priesttj Says:

    I’m hoping like crazy this Gaithers kid is healthy. It’ll get Velkdheer off that hot corner. Give us two good OT and I like to put Henderson and Campbell at the G spots. Give us a very young athletic Oline with tremendous size.

  116. SilverNutSack Says:

    How much better do you think our receivers would look if they played with Rivers? That said, I’m not a JC hater and have high hopes for this year… I think a year to get that chemistry down will be big… Miller keeps those receivers single covered. Will Lewis always do that?

  117. plataynegro Says:

    Sounds like Miller will have to settle for less, so maybe we can wait. I would hate to lose out on Heap or one of the other TEs. We need a tackle and a safety.

    I know I am dreaming, but since Al hates to blitz how good would Osi look in Silver and Black?

  118. priesttj Says:

    I just saw this kid we got from Penn St as a UDFA in a commercial he’s a very well biult kid. I just can’t remember if he was any good. His name is Abagbu or something like that. Any scoop on this kid??

  119. omniscience Says:

    Look at all the players signed in free agency all hasbins really Al is just waiting get a few players to plug in a few holes I hope if we can get like

    Gaither
    M.Lewis
    K.Morrison
    Fills needs

  120. Thec07 Says:

    Silvernut, I don’t think the would look much better. Our biggest WR is what 6′3… JFORD our best WR is 5′8… Rivers has all big targets smaller targets smaller window… That’s why they allways get big guys at WR…

  121. SilverNutSack Says:

    Floyd is a good receiver, no doubt, but we don’t need him. Sign Miller and all we need to do on offense is to bolster that line.

  122. Thec07 Says:

    Btw fck rivers…

  123. omniscience Says:

    Agree with Post 121 Gathier does that also Hue may Bring in Mason Just for Vet Leadership WRs Are young

  124. armond Says:

    yes fck rivers but hopefully campbell can play like him. we do need floyd if u can get him. 6′5 220 with chaz who is 6′4 220 what be nice. to big azz downfield and redzone threats. chaz actually plays like floyd and jackson.

  125. Thec07 Says:

    We can go into this season with Chaz or DHB as our number 1, however I would be willing to bet a C note that we are still talking to WR, and why? The org does not believe we have a true no. 1….

  126. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    What would happen cap wise if we dumped DHB?

  127. Thec07 Says:

    Imagine Floyd, CHAZ, and FORD in a 3 wide set…

  128. RaiderRobG Says:

    Imagine a great QB like Edmonton Eskimos Rick Ray throwing them the ball…

    http://cfl.ca/video/index/id/19249?autostart=true

  129. priesttj Says:

    DHB isn’t a money concern it’s a performance concern, dump him why? Because most fans hate the guy because he was drafted too high. He didn’t draft himself. Let’s see if he starts to get it then we don’t have to worry aout dumping him.

  130. Deja vu Says:

    Ford will be Ford and be tough to cover.

    There’s no doubt that Chaz can play, but you never know if he can play more than a handful of games due to injury.

    I really think Murph is going to be much better this year and polish his game up. The dude always is pushing himself!

    DHB should be a rotational guy, using him to his strentghs. Reverses, short slants and screens and use his speed after the catch.

    I wouldn’t be against bringing in a wr just in case Chaz puss’s out, but i’d rather it be a big dude and not another smurf.

  131. severeraiderz Says:

    Watching the USC vs ASU game and Ausberry is a baller. Runs nice routes and is getting separation from corners and is catching the ball nicely. Good field awareness but not great body control. Should be a nice receiver at TE but will probably struggle early on as a blocker

  132. lefty12 Says:

    What is a #1 WR?Who was the #1 WR when we had Branch and Freddy?Or W.Wells and Freddy?Duper or Clayton?Swann or Stallworth?The list goes on.

  133. SilverNutSack Says:

    floyd might have put 200 on us, but he only had 700 something yards total on the season… I don’t see him as being a clear cut, consistent #1… he is fairly injury prone as well.

  134. SilverNutSack Says:

    I feel you Lefty… bottom line, we have a hell of a lot of explosion on offense and can put up a lot of points with the guys we have, with the biggest factor being the offensive line.

  135. plataynegro Says:

    From what I understand DHB is making around $7.5mil this year! I’m just going off the reports from when he signed. Seems like a candidate for a pay cut if you ask me!

    I like Gaither also, but it’s a little concerning that he has such a bad back at only 25 yrs old!

  136. raiderjhawk Says:

    Bottom line… we need a big, tall possession receiver. I don’t think I can handle another season of DHB on the field.

    Think about it, Ford, Murphy, Chaz and a big possession WR and we would be unstoppable. DHB is holding this receiving core back.

    I keep waiting for a big move by the Raiders cause we need some help.

  137. Haters going to hate Says:

    Okoye was released could the Raiders use him?

  138. raiderjhawk Says:

    Somebody get Plax on the phone.

  139. SilverNutSack Says:

    Chaz is our big, tall possession guy… and before you knock him for injuries, take a look at Floyd’s injury history… have faith in Chaz!

  140. omniscience Says:

    This is DHB 3rd year Mcfadden was considered a bust by this same form also his 3rd year we keep saying we need a big WR what are DHB measurements

  141. Thec07 Says:

    Who is considere the No. 1 WR on the RAIDERS? Fck swan and stallworth…

  142. priesttj Says:

    Ford is starting to make me think he is going to be a huge star in this league when you cana run right by our corners for scores like he is in camp. We know he is competitive so he’ll run underneath and reverse and bubble this kid is going to be a huge star. If we can get DHB going this is going to be the most explosive offense in the NFL. That is why DHB is such a value he has Ford’s speed in a 6′2″ 225 lbs. body. It’s worth the wait if you get the payout. Some of you just can’t fathom that import you too worried about what he makes and if he’s a #1 or #10 forget that. The key is can he help us make plays that is the key. Can he make defense pay if they ignore him deep. If he can you wont be able to defend this team………….period

  143. omniscience Says:

    I think Namni was a bust also a 1st Round saftey drafted out of Cal trying to be a corner what is Al thinking he lost it

  144. Kirk Says:

    Has anyone seen Gaither play? Is he any good?

  145. Thec07 Says:

    What is the No.1 WR? Is this a new concept? Lol

  146. Raiders for life Says:

    Pretty uneventful in Raiderland. I guess at this point no news is good news.

  147. Kirk Says:

    Priest, agree with you on Ford.

  148. omniscience Says:

    Should have drafted Crabtree that guy is all world he won the Bilitnikoff award in collage we messed up again

  149. lefty12 Says:

    Isn’t it interesting that since we quit making those big FA signings the last couple of years,we’ve improved every year.Maybe we are better off in believing in our scouts and draft classes and letting them develop like most of the teams that win consistently do.

  150. Thec07 Says:

    Dude you also mention Branch and Freddy b, who in this WR corp comes even close to those two… You act as if saying we need a No.w is a foereign concept…

  151. omniscience Says:

    Agree with Lefty. Secandory filled with 1st and 2nd year players.

    Just get Gathier and sign Miller and Wimbley maybe a Vet Wr to help the youngsters

  152. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    The Raiders are one point underdogs for the opener in Denver.

    Time to borrow all the scratch you can get your hands on and lay it on The RRRRRRRRaiders!

  153. Thec07 Says:

    TJ, called JFORD along time ago… DMOORE is the same call. I would put him on your board however I don’t want him to win to many awards… DMOORE is my pick for RON… I am thinking TJ for your board…

  154. Big Balls Says:

    Anybody got the latest on Favre coming to Oakland? I heard he was in downtown today, or was it yesterday?

  155. raiderjhawk Says:

    SilverNutSack Says:

    Chaz is our big, tall possession guy… and before you knock him for injuries, take a look at Floyd’s injury history… have faith in Chaz!
    ———————————————————–
    I love Chaz, murphy and Ford and I think they’ll be awesome, but I don’t think any of these dudes is a legit #1 right now. We need a Vet possession WR to stick with these dudes and we got a dam good recieving core. DHB sucks.

  156. Big Balls Says:

    Raiders 45
    Dencer 10

  157. priesttj Says:

    I agree lefty12 that’s why I’m not jumping up and down about FA anymore we just need to handle what we do best which draft and develope. We’ve been hit and miss for years in FA and it has kept us running behind. Yeah anytime you can get a steal like Seymour then do it. But running after these names sometimes backfires instead of developing and keeping your own.

    We’ve given away a lot of talent around the league chasing FA’s. I love the WR’s we have if we can finish bringing them around. I don’t mind a key FA here and there but 5-6 guys at top dollar no way no more. It’s killed us.

    All we need is 3-4 catches a game from DHB if we’ll just accept it. And stop looking at his draft status.

  158. Deja vu Says:

    We need to pick up a back up center for sure. Keep Veldheer at 1 position LT or RT and keep him there. I know he has center exp, but hate when they keep shifting these guys around the line, esp during the season.

  159. Thec07 Says:

    We’ve improved every year where and when? Wh had our first non losing season after 7 in a row..m

  160. Raider Biff Says:

    Coach Davis needs to trade DHB for Ray Ray.

  161. severeraiderz Says:

    Haters

    Hell yeah we could use Okoye….he was drafted at 19 so he is still very young. IMO would be an upgrade over Desmond Bryant who I like as a player

  162. lefty12 Says:

    What I’m saying is in reality there is no such thing.You need 2WRs that compliment each other.We have those guys.The problem is they are young and unproven and will never develop if they aren’t given the opportunity.Also,DHB is the same WR We saw in Cliff Branch the first few years,although DHB is much bigger.The problem is everyone wants instant gratification and has no patience.

  163. omniscience Says:

    Anyone intrested in Braylon Edwards

  164. Raider Biff Says:

    Thec07 where have me improved from last season to this season? Does anybody see any improvement other than Hue this year?

  165. CuzImaRaider Says:

    omniscience Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    Anyone intrested in Braylon Edwards

    Not really, we have ebough recievers who have trouble catching routine balls.

  166. CuzImaRaider Says:

    *enough*

  167. Thec07 Says:

    Raiderjhawh, what’s a NO. 1 WR? Seems like a new concept esp if you have 2 greats like branch and Fred B..

  168. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    MR, have you always enjoyed being despised?

  169. omniscience Says:

    Agree with lefty again as i said before all these FA going to other teams never work out the same how many Raiders have left and been great some where else Besides Charles Moss dont count never a Raider Aso will meet the same fate…

  170. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Cody Habben is an OT UFDA from UW (PAC 12 not Big Ten)

  171. lefty12 Says:

    Thec,we haven’t made any huge FA moves in the last couple of years.Wasn’t our record better last year than the year before?Wasn’t it better the year before than it was the year before that.In case you don’t get it that is called improvement.Baby steps but at least steps forward,not backward.

  172. priesttj Says:

    I got ya’ Thec07 you’re looking to hit a homerun with TJ or Moore. I can’t wait to see them in action.

  173. RaiderRetribution Says:

    OT & OGs should be our priority!

  174. Cornfucious Says:

    :cry: :cry: :cry:

    Nnamdi gone :mad:

    So sad Nnamdi gone :sad:

    :cry :cry: Davis lose all marbles :oops:

    Great big leak now at CB :eek: :eek:

    :mrgreen: Well Cornfucious just go to party now that locksown over.

    So sorry to see Nnamdi go.

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

  175. Thec07 Says:

    In all reality a first round pick is expeted to come in and start and contribute out the gates. First rounders are not typically consider project or developmental players. They are expected to play day one.

    Why do people want instant gratification, and expect a lot from first RD picks has a lot to do with how the game has changed, and how college has changed. The college football programs are run like NFL programs. So if you are draftes. High is is expected that you will produce.

  176. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    The Miami Herald reports there has been no contact between the Dolphins and free agent TE Zach Miller.
    ESPN’s John Clayton floated the idea of Miller taking his talents to South Beach on Saturday morning, but was apparently speculating more than passing along any real news. Although it’s taken a curiously long time for the sides to come to an agreement, Miller remains extremely likely to end up back in Oakland. Jul 30, 2:42 PM

  177. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Christ, who cares. We all knew #21 was leaving, lets see some discussion on who we already have, and could possibly get to make our team better.

  178. Raider Biff Says:

    Where has Oakland improved this year?

  179. Plunketthead Says:

    Raiders 52
    Mile high mules 6 (TouchdownTebow) will kick two field goals

  180. Raider Biff Says:

    Doubt Al is gonna pick up anyone other than whos already on the team. He will expect his coaches to coach palyers up. Going to be a lot of pressure on the coaching staff.

  181. omniscience Says:

    I heard Nnamdi left because he wanted best chance to win a bowl he messed up look at our squad and our division we got this…. Vick gets hurt there done also more Turf games and Cold weather games for Nnamdi now wish him luck

  182. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    The Raiders re-signed Khalif Barnes to a one-year deal to be the starting right tackle. Raiders decided not to sign Ravens T Jared Gaither.

  183. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Raider Biff Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    Where has Oakland improved this year?

    Head Coach, OL line coaching, possibly DB coaches, young developmental prospects. I honestly feel Chekwa will be a stud nickel back! I love WR Moore down the road. DVD can become a nice DB with some reps and experience. JC in his second year in the same system. OL experience. I’d say there is no way we haven’t improved!

  184. Plunketthead Says:

    Thec
    I was just thimking about that. Rookies seldom played not that many years agao. Especially at QB. They usually sat for two years at least before taking a starting job away.

    It seems its been the past ten years maybe that I have noticed a shift where rookies are expected to start right away.

  185. Thec07 Says:

    In case I don’t get? Hahahhaha that’s a good one, check it I understand what we are doing we have moved away from siging a lot of big name FA’s, and yes rhat has shown to be wise however, if you know more than the org which I seroiusly doubt then answer me this why is the org still looking for a WR????

  186. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    Was just told a plan of consideration serious consideration is to move Veldheer to LG, and resign L. Walker to play RT, Gaither at LT, Campbell at RG. This is a way to get the top 5 linemen on the field at the same time.

  187. YoungAmerican Says:

    From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    The Raiders re-signed Khalif Barnes to a one-year deal to be the starting right tackle. Raiders decided not to sign Ravens T Jared Gaither.

    ————

    Wow… that back must be bad…

  188. omniscience Says:

    I dont play in the N.F.L but i here there is a big difference coming from collage and playing with the Big Dogs

  189. Plunketthead Says:

    We are bigger, stronger, faster, meaner and Al is gonna take us on another SB run.

  190. plataynegro Says:

    Raiders re-sign Barnes? Wow, Gaither must be worse than they thought!

  191. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    13X….what a joke!

  192. YoungAmerican Says:

    So… Veldheer – Loper – Wiz – Carlisle – Barnes… wow.

  193. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Anyone rememeber when Barnes stepped in for Loper at LG when Gallery was sidelined, he actually played fairly well there, and wouldn’t be surprised it leads to the thoughts of resigning him

  194. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    If Walker can’t pass his physical Barns will be looked at with serious consideration.

  195. omniscience Says:

    Is this true on Gathier?

  196. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    @Bmyers83 Brandon Myers
    Hope to see @ZachMiller80 n napa real soon!

  197. Raiders for life Says:

    Deja vu Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    We need to pick up a back up center for sure. Keep Veldheer at 1 position LT or RT and keep him there. I know he has center exp, but hate when they keep shifting these guys around the line, esp during the season

    #####################################

    Did I miss something..is Satelle gone?

  198. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    This just in…..Al Davis realizes he can not use the Raiders rights to Hayward Bays name to sue the city of Oakland or the State of California for a new stadium.

    Bay is packing up his locker as we speak.

  199. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Anyone think Kaczur would be a fit, although comming off an injury plagued season, and also once a “snitch” in undercover oxy bust. I like that he was coached up in NE, and think the guy can play if healthy.

  200. Haters going to hate Says:

    Barnes is just a ploy, I bet Gaither wanted too much money

  201. YoungAmerican Says:

    Kaczur or Jammal Brown are the only options left at OT, really.

    Evan Mathis and Reggie Wells are FA OGs.

  202. omniscience Says:

    Eagles sign Cullen Jekins where they gettin all this cash..

  203. priesttj Says:

    Did you guys know this Alan Pelc dude was a preseason Outland Trophy candidate? I was wondering why they had this guy at RT starting and I just read his bio. This kid is NOT some bum off the scrap heap.

    I am going to keep my eye on this kid. He started for Butch Davis which says a lot but I didn’tg watch him the last time I watched the film on the Tenn vs UNC game next time I’ll watch him.

    OUTLAND TROPHY CANDIDATE!!! what?? why didn’t he get drafted?

  204. Plunketthead Says:

    On second thought. TouchdownTebow will probaly play on both sides of the ball so make it

    Raiders 52
    mile low mules 8 TouchdownTebow will block a punt and then stop Jason for a safety, rush for 99 yards, pass for 124 and kick two field goals

  205. Haters going to hate Says:

    Did anyone sign Brian Waters?

  206. YoungAmerican Says:

    Nevermind, Eagles got Evan Mathis, too.

  207. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Am glad we passed on Gaither if this true, I think that as young as he is, to have as many injury issues as he does is a bad sign. I guy as big as he is can only suffer more as he ages!

  208. Thec07 Says:

    It was widely reported that we were going heavy at Chad Johnson… So what does that mean? Does the org believe we are set at WR????

  209. lefty12 Says:

    Thec,i was referring to the team getting better each year the last couple of years.Don’t try and twist the conversation like a certain troll on here does.The team tried to TRADE for a WR but I haven’t seen anything about the Raiders trying to sign any FA WRs.

  210. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “Perhaps it’s because not many teams have a burning need to add a tight end. Maybe his asking price is too high, or teams are leery of his injury history.”

    ====

    Perhaps they saw how lousy his blicking was last year…

  211. RaiderRetribution Says:

    well we didn’t sign Peyton Mannning, he just signed a (0 million dollar contract

  212. Thec07 Says:

    Brown resigned…

  213. RaiderRetribution Says:

    90

  214. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Eagles land Cullen Jenkins

    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 30, 2011, 4:29 PM EDT

    Getty Images
    Another day, another big free agent signing for the Philadelphia Eagles’ defense.

    ======

    WTF!!!!!!!!!

    C’mon RAIDERS!!!!!!!

    WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!

    :mad:

  215. priesttj Says:

    No it’s not money Gaither isn’t healthy, they must’ve been waiting on MRI’s and Doctor’s to clear him for practice. The kid may be out for another year or his career may be in jeopardy.

  216. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Pelc, could be interesting, played G, C not Tackle from what I can tell. Curious if shoulder injury and surgery plagued his draft status.

  217. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Where did the Eagles get all this money???

  218. lefty12 Says:

    Going heavy-LOL.NE only gave up a 5th next year and a 6th the following year.If we were going heavy after the guy we certainly cold have beat that offer.

  219. Thec07 Says:

    Dude, I aint twisting sht…you came at me with the stupid 1 WR non sense…

  220. priesttj Says:

    Mr D wouldn’t let money get in the way of signing a kid like Gaither if he’s healthy.

  221. SilverNutSack Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    What is the No.1 WR? Is this a new concept? Lol

    _______________________________________

    What exactly is a #1 receiver? I think we have several guys with the talent to surpass 1000 yards and, given the nature of our offense, that would make us golden at that position.

  222. RaiderRetribution Says:

    cullen jenkins just signed with the eagles

    between what they are paying vick, asomugha, asante, babin

    how are they able to stay under the cap and sign everyone

    Raiders if you are relying on building through the draft I’m all for it, but you need to get busy if you are wanting to get quality FA for this season.

  223. YoungAmerican Says:

    Young kid with back troubles = not good for the future. Better off with Barnes in that case, although it would be nice to make another vet OL signing like Jammal Brown or Reggie Wells.

    Shame about Gaither. Talented kid.

  224. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I’m with you From the Bay, all the way from the Inland Northwest

    Desean Jackson is fuming now!

  225. priesttj Says:

    All I can say is that’s top shelf stuff if he was comsidered an Outland trophy hopeful. There are only 65 players considered each year on both sides of the line.

  226. Thec07 Says:

    That’s my point we made an offer to a guy like chad johnson who is a circus act in his own right and you don’t consider that a potential big FA signing????

    Oh yeah that’s right the RAIDERs don’t do that anymore per you….lol

  227. omniscience Says:

    Veldeer looks like he can develop into a good LT added 45 lbs of bulk he says to play harder Gathier may have wanted LT spot and ther goes Veldeers developing need RT.

  228. YoungAmerican Says:

    Rams and Eagles are owning free agency right now.

  229. lefty12 Says:

    If we can get someone cheap,essentially steal them we will.But we aren’t laying out big bucks for any WRs.Davis likes what we have.HJ has said he likes what we have.

  230. priesttj Says:

    The Eagles have a window they are trying to get through for SB win. Smart moves so far, outstanding moves really.

  231. SilverNutSack Says:

    I like what we have.

  232. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Raider Biff Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    Where has Oakland improved this year?

    Agreed, they are smoking this FA class. D-jax must be heated no contract for him as of yet,, while we’re on the Iggles, anyone like Ernie Sims?? Two Florida Staters on the edge’s!! Also, injury ridden though!

  233. CuzImaRaider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    The Eagles have a window they are trying to get through for SB win. Smart moves so far, outstanding moves really.

    Meant to copy this, my bad!

  234. Kirk Says:

    Khalif Barnes? Yikes! With him and DHB starting, God help Jason Campbell.

  235. omniscience Says:

    Eagles look good glad they are in the N.F.C Raiders Eagles Superbowl Raiders win again

  236. lefty12 Says:

    Now,you are just being stubborn.It was a trade,not a FA signing.Come on man,you aren’t stupid.And you know as well as I do a future 5 and 6 isn’t sh!t,they essential gave him away.If we wanted him that bad we could have easily bested that offer.

  237. RaiderRetribution Says:

    if Gaither is not healthy do not sign him, go after Waters.

    Waters as a starting left guard would be an excellent teacher between 2nd year LT Mr. Vehldeer and rookie center Mr. Wisniewski

    we could then have our veteran Mr. Loper at RG next to rookie RT Mr. Barksdale

    Vehldeer Waters Wisniewski Loper Barksdale

    reserves Parsons, Campbell, Lamaak and Satele or Mawae

  238. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Miller’s not getting a big offer because he’s too slow. He’s a good player, but he’s not a big-play guy.

    Routt gets $20 million guaranteed and Nnamdi gets $25 million guaranteed? What’s wrong with this picture?

  239. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Mawae!?! If he can still play I’d thow him in a C, and let Wiz 2.0 earn his stripes at gaurd!

  240. Kirk Says:

    Miller is not getting a big offer because he isn’t that good.

  241. omniscience Says:

    Veldeer,Loper,Wiz, good with that side RG RT NEED HELP

  242. Thec07 Says:

    So why would we attempt to get chad johnson? We are set right?

  243. omniscience Says:

    Waters still got something left?

  244. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Why should we develop DHB in a Pro Bowl player? He will just go on to another team to get his SB ring. That’s what we do here.

  245. Thec07 Says:

    I trust the org, If they believe we need a WR I trust that we will get one…

  246. CuzImaRaider Says:

    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    Why should we develop DHB in a Pro Bowl player? He will just go on to another team to get his SB ring. That’s what we do here.

    LOL, seriously. Lets cross that bridge if AND when it ever happens!

  247. priesttj Says:

    I’m not sure how much we wanted Chad if at all. If we really wanted him what they got for him is easily what we would’ve paid if they wanted him. I said earlier that I didn’t want to trade for Chad if he was a FA then yeah. But I’ll believe Chad is done being a clown when I see it. The side shows make me sick.

    Play the game you’re way too talented to need that crap, the other great rec’s didn’t need to do that why did he?

  248. aig-raiders Says:

    oh boy, the Eagles have suddenly become a cool place to play. I thought that spot belonged to the Jets the past few years. Rehabbing Mike Vick’s image has done wonders for that org. Congrats to them. Glad they are in the NFC.

  249. SilverNutSack Says:

    I like that.

  250. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    It’s Priesttj vision not mine. I say save the money.

  251. omniscience Says:

    Some players are Loyal Timmie Brown…

  252. SilverNutSack Says:

    RaiderRetribution Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    if Gaither is not healthy do not sign him, go after Waters.

    Waters as a starting left guard would be an excellent teacher between 2nd year LT Mr. Vehldeer and rookie center Mr. Wisniewski

    we could then have our veteran Mr. Loper at RG next to rookie RT Mr. Barksdale

    Vehldeer Waters Wisniewski Loper Barksdale

    reserves Parsons, Campbell, Lamaak and Satele or Mawae

    ______

    This, that is.

  253. Thec07 Says:

    I am not so much stuck on the fact that we went hard in the paint or not after Chad Johnson. My issue is that you are saying we are set and yet we did talk to Johnson… If we are set as you would like to think, why waste time on Chad when we really don’t want him..

  254. priesttj Says:

    Nnamdi didn’t get what I thought he would so it’s clear HE DIDN’T WANT TO BE HERE………..make sense?

  255. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Who have we signed in FA.. other than our own?

  256. lefty12 Says:

    We are happy with what we have,but if we could have gotten him for a couple of 7ths,why not.He would definitely be better than any 7th rd draft pick.You look at it as if we attempted to get him.I look at it as if we were kicking tires-if he doesn’t cost anything I’ll take him.

  257. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I agree with the Priest. Too early to give up on DHB. Remember how bad McFadden looked before last year. If DHB shows half the improvement McFadden did, the Raiders offense will be scary.

  258. omniscience Says:

    Haynesworth cant practice yet not ready

  259. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Campbell made Miller look pretty good last year
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now Priest, you know that’s not true. If anything the reverse is true and he also made Bruce look good, etc.

    Miller might not sign and so now half the blog is declaring he sucks.
    Yeah, right. If he was good when he played here, he’s still good and the same applies to Aso.

  260. SilverNutSack Says:

    Vick won’t be as effective this year… that will be their downfall.

  261. SilverNutSack Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Nnamdi didn’t get what I thought he would so it’s clear HE DIDN’T WANT TO BE HERE………..make sense?

    __________

    precisely

  262. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    McFadden was a stud player before he came here. Was DHB? Was he better then Crabtree or Maclin?
    McFadden had a set of skills he has improved opon. What has DHB done to get better?

    Plus McFadden was hurt those first few years as well. I’m not a hater. I just think we are spinning our wheels.

  263. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Raiders | Will not sign Jared Gaither
    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:01:32 -0700

    The Oakland Raiders have decided against signing free-agent OT Jared Gaither (Ravens).

    0 Comments | Share: | Source: ESPN – John Clayton

    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl/#ixzz1TcqGcMQ5

  264. lefty12 Says:

    Thec,you are never set-at least you should never think that way.Now,I believe JC is our starter-he has earned it no question.But if I could get Brady for cheap,why wouldn’t I get him- even though I’m set at QB this year.

  265. omniscience Says:

    Our D was prety good last year 2nd in leauge in sacks so we lost Aso and Huff. Branch moved to Free M34 to Strong CJ37 at Corner no lost in my opinion

  266. 89052RAIDER Says:

    I love Miller, but I am ok with him walking if he will not take a fair market value contract. The front seven is going to be fantastic and I believe Chaz will stay healthy so Al and Hue will make due after the FA dust settles.

  267. hellsbells Says:

    Wonder if anyone signs Gaither? Bet he wanted to play LT and we said he had to ply RT. Hope that is not the case.

  268. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    Before last year, McFADDEN fumbled, tripped over his own feet, and didn’t break tackles. He looked like a bust.

    Now he is a BEAST.

  269. plataynegro Says:

    Thec,

    I heard that we were gonna sign C.Johnson after he was cut by the Bengals. I don’t think Al even offered anything to them for him. His tie to HJ is the reason he was coming here. So it would of been a FA move. And I am with you, they weren’t doing it out of charity for Chad, they believe a solid vet will help.

    I am also with a lot of you that Floyd would help, if healthy. And so will Chaz. Do we want 2 injury prone
    WRs waiting weeks for a return?

  270. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    J-Raider in Kentucky!

    You still out there?

  271. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Clayton: Gaither out; Barnes in for Raiders

    July, 30, 2011
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    By Bill Williamson

    ESPN’s John Clayton is reporting the Oakland Raiders have decided not to sign Baltimore tackle Jared Gaither. The team visited with him Friday and it was reported by multiple outlets that he agreed to terms.

    I’d say the very likely reason why Gaither was not signed was his injured back. He missed all of last season with a back injury. Friday night, Oakland coach Hue Jackson, who coached Gaither in Baltimore, said they wanted to make sure he was healthy.

    Instead, the Raiders agreed to a one-year deal to bring back Khalif Barnes. Clayton said Barnes is currently slated to start at right tackle. If third-round pick Joe Barksdale comes on strong, perhaps he’ll join Jared Veldheer as a starter.

    Barnes started three games for Oakland last season.

    When healthy, Gaither is a better player than Barnes. So, this turn of events is a dose of bad news for the Raiders, who are trying to fix their problems on the offensive line. Perhaps when healthy, the Raiders will revisit signing Gaither, but for now, it appears they are going in another direction.

    Terms of the Barnes deal weren’t available, but the one-year contract, the source said, was worth more than the minimum salary because they brought back Barnes to start at right tackle. They haven’t re-signed tackle Mario Henderson.

  272. CuzImaRaider Says:

    noteasilyimpressed Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    Raiders | Will not sign Jared Gaither
    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:01:32 -0700

    The Oakland Raiders have decided against signing free-agent OT Jared Gaither (Ravens).

    0 Comments | Share: | Source: ESPN – John Clayton

    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl/#ixzz1TcqGcMQ5

    ——————————————

    God, Corkran was all over this…wait?

  273. CuzImaRaider Says:

    noteasilyimpressed Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    Raiders | Will not sign Jared Gaither
    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:01:32 -0700

    The Oakland Raiders have decided against signing free-agent OT Jared Gaither (Ravens).

    0 Comments | Share: | Source: ESPN – John Clayton

    Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl/#ixzz1TcqGcMQ5

    ——————————————

    God, Corkran was all over this…wait?

  274. YoungAmerican Says:

    Raiders’ remaining options in free agency:

    OT Jammal Brown
    OG Reggie Wells
    OG Brian Waters
    WR Malcolm Floyd
    WR Braylon Edwards
    FS Dashon Goldson
    FS Jarrad Page
    CB Antonio Cromartie

  275. omniscience Says:

    DHB was pretty raw when he got here I think he works hard to get better hope this is the year

  276. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Not sure I’m buying what Clayton is selling. Since when was Barnes a starting RT for us????

    And the ZMiller rumors of contact from Miami to only be corrected by the Miami Herald??

  277. 89052RAIDER Says:

    DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    McFadden was a stud player before he came here. Was DHB? Was he better then Crabtree or Maclin?
    McFadden had a set of skills he has improved opon. What has DHB done to get better?

    Plus McFadden was hurt those first few years as well. I’m not a hater. I just think we are spinning our wheels.

    Very true and DMAC had some huge game sprinkled in before last year.

  278. Kirk Says:

    DHB works very hard. He just doesn’t have the talent.

  279. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    Before last year, McFADDEN fumbled, tripped over his own feet, and didn’t break tackles. He looked like a bust.

    Now he is a BEAST.
    —————————————————–
    I will give you that. He did trip over a lot of sprinkler heads. But he was still way better at his position the DHB was at his as a rookie.

    I hope DHB turns the corner. But I just dont see it.

  280. Kirk Says:

    While in Jacksonville, Barnes earned the nickname of “Khawiff” due to his frequent missed blocks in the passing game, leading to sacks. Barnes played left tackle exclusively during his time in Jacksonville, where he typically had to face the opposing teams’ best pass rushers.

  281. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    I remember when Jerry was here…he would break news 1st!

    Now we depend on our own bloggers and sources…we should get promoted!

    Jerry if your out there send me an application for the insidebayarea I will gladly fill it out!

    ;)

  282. severeraiderz Says:

    Lol didn’t ESPN also report that we were signing him? Ill wait until Hue makes an announcement at the end of practice before I take this report seriously

  283. CuzImaRaider Says:

    From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    I remember when Jerry was here…he would break news 1st!

    Now we depend on our own bloggers and sources
    ——————————————

    This is too true!

  284. YoungAmerican Says:

    Trent Edwards is a Raider.

  285. 89052RAIDER Says:

    We can roll with Barnes and Veldeer will have to man LT. I believe Veldeer has the goods and is a tough SOB. I like Barksdale at G the more I study him. 39 starts in the SEC will speed up his learning curve. I like the fact that we didn’t rush to sign Gaither and then he blows his back out in camp. This may allow us to use the Money to get a vet WR.

  286. Kirk Says:

    Khalif Barnes arrest video….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0uI7OV8_zg

  287. ArmChair GM Says:

    Priest-

    I need some of your good Vibes, cause my excitement is starting to fade.

    Lose the best corner in the league, Haven’t made ANY meaningful moves in free agency, NOT ONE!

    Still up in the air about Bush, Miller….

    I like the coaching choices with Hue Jackson, Wiz, Woodson, etc….but hhat exactly have we done to significantly IMPROVE the team ON THE FIELD over last season.

    I’m not an Eagle fan by ANY stretch of the imagination, but what they are doing in free agency is nothing short of IMPRESSIVE!

    What’s wrong with us?

  288. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I expect Houston, Veldeer, Ford and McClain to improve by leaps and bounds this year.

  289. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    I expect Houston, Veldeer, Ford and McClain to improve by leaps and bounds this year.

    So true…Houston and Mcclain, and MS are going to crack skulls. One or all three may explode. Front seven could be special.

  290. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    I remember when rhe Redskins loaded up with all the top free agents and it blow up in there face. Does that make you feel better GM?

  291. RaiderLen Says:

    Rep1Sports Rep 1 Sports
    by VittorioTafur
    QB Trent Edwards has agreed to terms with the Oakland Raiders. Congrats Trent!
    ——————–
    This just in.

  292. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Khalif Barnes has a one year contract. Don’t actually think much of him but it’s good to see that there will be SOME veterans
    This year in particular, veterans are going to be important. Veterans are going to do a lot better than rookies given the situation of the lock-out.

  293. plataynegro Says:

    Armchair, fear not about Michael Bush. He is restricted and can’t practice until Aug 4th anyway. And if someone does sign him first, we have the right to match or get their 1st and 3rd rd picks next year.

  294. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Why is anyone’s sucker in the dirt? This front seven can be stout against the run. We have not had a crew like this in years. Wimbley was a steal last year and we have young guys ready explode.

  295. CuzImaRaider Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    Trent Edwards is a Raider.

    Just seen that on Jerry’s Twitter, hmmm.

  296. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Again, since when was Barnes a starting RT for us? I really cannot remember.

    And why would the Raiders state that he is the starter? Doesn’t make sense when you have BCamp & Barksdale that can compete when Barnes has largely been a backup for us.

    Just not buying that part of what Clayton is selling. Maybe he’s reaching a bit, vying for relevancy in an Adam Sheftner world.

    Just because we sign Barnes while looking at Gaither doesn’t mean Gaither failed and Barnes is the named starter. Maybe Gaither did fail, but I’ll wait to hear that from Hue that they are no longer in pursuit becuase half of Claytons report makes little sense to me.

  297. RaiderLen Says:

    Jerrymcd Jerry McDonald
    Raiders sign QB Trent Edwards, according to Rep1 Sports. Agent is Bruce Tollner, son of former Raiders passing game coach Ted Tollner
    ——————————
    Now from Jerry.

  298. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    EnglandRaider, Who do you like in the big showdown today?

  299. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Jerry’s enjoying himself on twitter.

  300. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson Says:

    I’m with you 89052.

  301. 89052RAIDER Says:

    I am also of the mind that Chaz makes us proud this year…Ford and mcfadden are going to continue where they left off which gives us the explosiveness that had been absent in prior years. I would rather see few moves in FA that are likely to produce..

  302. The Realist Dirty Raccoon Says:

    89052RAIDER Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    Why is anyone’s sucker in the dirt? This front seven can be stout against the run. We have not had a crew like this in years. Wimbley was a steal last year and we have young guys ready explode.
    :::::

    Very true sir very true. We also have a budding O line and WR core, our secondary is still in pretty good shape, we just need a real NFL starting QB. I don’t see JC winning a SB.

  303. TerrapinRaider Says:

    When is practice today? And isn’t this suppose to be padded session?

  304. 89052RAIDER Says:

    Something that is new this year is we have several players other teams would covet:
    Ford, Mcfadden, Wimbley, Mcclain, Veldeer, Bush, MS, Seymour, etc. I remember the years when seasons in the past 8 years with roster that so few players that would have an impact elsewhere.

  305. DonManoukiansNeighbor Says:

    There not allowed to where pads anymore. Well only the kind you find in the womens isle of the store.

  306. Seymour Bush Says:

    noteasilyimpressed Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Clayton: Gaither out; Barnes in for Raiders

    July, 30, 2011
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    By Bill Williamson

    ESPN’s John Clayton is reporting the Oakland Raiders have decided not to sign Baltimore tackle Jared Gaither. The team visited with him Friday and it was reported by multiple outlets that he agreed to terms.

    I’d say the very likely reason why Gaither was not signed was his injured back. He missed all of last season with a back injury. Friday night, Oakland coach Hue Jackson, who coached Gaither in Baltimore, said they wanted to make sure he was healthy.

    Instead, the Raiders agreed to a one-year deal to bring back Khalif Barnes. Clayton said Barnes is currently slated to start at right tackle. If third-round pick Joe Barksdale comes on strong, perhaps he’ll join Jared Veldheer as a starter.

    Barnes started three games for Oakland last season.
    =============================================

    I told you all we were not signing Gaither. Gaither was too lazy to pick up a pen and sign his name. maybe Barnes can start at TE instead of Zach. Gaither had 20% of the TD receptions zach had last year!

  307. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    Raiders signed QB Trent Edwards.
    Oakland is actually one of the better places Edwards could have ended up, as he should be given a real shot at unseating Kyle Boller as the Raiders’ backup quarterback. With Jason Campbell hardly having a vice-grip on the starting job, there’s a real possibility Edwards could see some playing time this season.

  308. A.B. Paine III Says:

    So, no Gaither and we pick up Trent Edwards. Now this is getting depressing.

  309. Deja vu Says:

    Barnes and T. Edwards are your 2 guys Al was talking about signing by letting Nnamdi go. Just joking fellas, these 2 guys are pocket change.

    I like Miller and hope he’s back for a fair price. His dueche bag agent needs to stop playing games and just get this done…

  310. Kirk Says:

    Good news….we have the best head coach we have had in a long time.

  311. Kirk Says:

    Trent Edwards is better than Boller.

  312. plataynegro Says:

    I like the Edwards deal, as long as he was cheap! Very accurate, check down type, that shouldn’t lose any games for us on his mistakes. Not a risk taker, but we can win with screens, slants, and hopefully underneath stuff to the TE (Miller!)

  313. From the Bay 2 L.A. 2 Las Vegas Says:

    BREAKING NEWS – Sensing they are close to a championship, LeBron James plans to sign with the Philadelphia Eagles by Monday.

  314. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Arm strength, accuracy, intelligence, 6-4, and balls.

    Al, I think I’m with you on this one!

  315. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    *Trent Edwards

  316. Teabag Says:

    priesttj Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I think Zack would be wise to come back and protect his job here because I’m telling ya’ this kid Ausberry will take it. “A bird in the hand”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO OMFG SHUT UP

  317. Teabag Says:

    I’m tellin ya….this kid Assbery is gonna be the next Kellen Winslow…

  318. [Raiders News] Raiders Free Agent TE Zach Miller Not A Hot Commodity - GridironFans.com Says:

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  319. ohioraider Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    I can’t believe we lost Johnie Lee Higgins too. We are screwed.
    ——————————————
    Wha????? What’s your point? Like this guy was gonna make a difference?

  320. ohioraider Says:

    You guys excited about the prospects of another 8-8 season??

  321. ohioraider Says:

    CaliRaider Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Just want to join the blog and say hi to everyone. Great blog keep up the good work Jer.
    Hope Al gets favre, he will be a great addition to the Raiders.
    ——————————–
    You are emblematic of everything that’s moronic about this blog. Who could possibly care one way or the other? How would the signing of “favre” get us into the playoffs??

  322. ohioraider Says:

    Kirk Says:
    July 30th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Good news….we have the best head coach we have had in a long time.
    ——————————
    Oh yeah, not one game played yet and lets make an announcement like this.

    IQ on these posts going steadily down…

  323. beach Says:

    Al, Pay Zach Miller and Michael Bush. We can put up big numbers again and more consistently in 2011! Go Raiders!

  324. articles Says:

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